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Timcast IRL - Biden Roasted For HILARIOUS GAFFE, Democrat Confidence In his Brain GONE w/Bill Ottman
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tim pool
President Joe Biden.
With a bold and powerful statement, said he had two words, and then he said three, and that's it.
And it was hilarious, and it's just, I don't even know how you make such a stupid mistake, but we're gonna play the video, and then we're all gonna laugh, because it's Friday, and everybody needs a good laugh.
And because it's Friday as well, it's time to end this week with something a little bit more relaxing.
I mean, obviously, we are gonna talk about the apocalypse and World War III, but we're gonna make jokes about it.
We're gonna make fun of Joe Biden, because his brain doesn't work.
We've also got probably one of the most epic responses in cancel culture history, Matt Walsh.
Many leftists have been spreading around these out of context clips, trying to smear him and make accusations against him.
So he just issued the most epic response ever, where he was just like, kiss my ass, you should be apologizing to me!
And that, I can't even do it justice, it's so good.
And so we'll talk about that, plus we do have some pretty crazy stories, really dark stuff.
Cori Bush, she's a progressive democrat.
An interview came out on PBS where she told the story of where she was the victim of a forced abortion, where she begged them to stop and they wouldn't.
And it's just like, dude, this story is like a horror story, man.
So we'll talk about that.
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Joining us tonight is a man who is not, in fact, invisible, but just late, is Bill Ottman.
bill ottman
Hey, thanks for having me.
tim pool
You were late.
bill ottman
I ran out of gas.
Literally.
Totally spaced.
tim pool
Man.
Who are you?
What do you do?
bill ottman
My name is Bill.
I'm the co-founder of Minds, Minds.com.
We're an open-source, decentralized social network.
tim pool
Well, simple enough.
Well, Luke's here, too, I guess.
luke rudkowski
Unforgivable.
Never do that again, Bill.
unidentified
Thank you.
luke rudkowski
I'm just messing out of guests.
My name is Luke Godowski of WeAreChange.org.
Today, I'm wearing a shirt with my co-host on it, and that, of course, is my dog, Atlas, which reads, no step on dog, which you could exclusively get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com because you do.
I'm here.
Thank you so much for having me.
bill ottman
Luke, I just had to sign his name as Atlas.
luke rudkowski
Her name is Atlas.
bill ottman
His and her.
So, you know, they'll be friends.
unidentified
Awesome.
ian crossland
His son is Atlas.
luke rudkowski
Oh, your son's name's Atlas.
That's pretty cool.
That's awesome.
ian crossland
Cool name.
Are you called Addy?
bill ottman
That hasn't emerged yet.
The nickname hasn't come out.
tim pool
It's not so much a nickname as just the way you say the name.
unidentified
Atlas.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
You know, just speak normally until you say his name.
Atlas!
Can you come here and bring the newspaper?
luke rudkowski
It's becoming more and more of a popular name as, you know, we have a global awakening to the true crimes happening all around the world.
ian crossland
Are you going to pile the burden of Earth on his shoulders?
bill ottman
It's actually not Earth that he's depicting.
That's a myth.
It's the celestial bodies.
It's the whole universe.
unidentified
Oh, so it's actually worse that it's the weight of the universe on his shoulders.
ian crossland
All right.
Hey, Ian Crossland, also co-founder of Minds.
I don't talk about it enough, probably, on the show.
Good to have you here, Bill.
bill ottman
Hell yeah.
ian crossland
Let's reconnoiter.
lydia smith
For sure.
Thank you guys all for joining us this evening on This Is My Last Night.
I cannot wait to talk about whatever's coming up, whatever dumb thing Ben has said.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
Here's the story from the Daily Mail.
Quote, let me start with two words.
Made in America!
And that was it.
And I just started busting out laughing, because, you know, look, we could talk about a lot of stuff.
We can talk about Joe Biden destroying the country and getting involved in potentially World War III.
But we deserve to laugh.
And I don't know if I... Okay, so I don't have it here.
Do they got the video?
Let's play the video.
unidentified
Let me start off with two words.
Made in America.
I've been eating in a mirror.
tim pool
He says it twice.
And then everybody cheers for it.
That's it.
Happy Friday, everybody.
I hope you're having a good time.
This is, you know, are we laughing as everything just spirals down into oblivion?
And we just, you know, we're just smiling as it all burns around us?
This is fine?
ian crossland
It's not all burning around us.
It's always been, you know, trying to make the best out of a chaotic universe.
But yeah, I'm definitely laughing as I should probably be trying to figure out a new sort of economy that we could transition to.
tim pool
I love how the story from the Daily Mail is highlighting the fact that he said two words.
He's like, let me start with two words and then says three.
But then it gets like really serious with like letters, you know, from representatives, from Congresswoman Nancy Mace and pictures of, you know, Rand Paul and all that stuff.
It's just like, dude.
luke rudkowski
I'll bet you the White House transcript is going to read, he said three words, instead of two, and they're gonna try to whitewash.
tim pool
Few words.
luke rudkowski
Few words, there you go, that'll even make more sense.
tim pool
Let me start with a few words!
But that's what they're gonna do.
ian crossland
Lydia pointed out he technically did start with two, made in, so maybe he wasn't wrong.
tim pool
Yeah, that's what Corinne Jean-Pierre is going to say.
Someone's going to be like, the president said to start with two words, but then said three.
He started by saying two words and then added a third.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
How's it going?
How's the economy for you guys?
How's the country?
Are you excited for the leadership of this man?
luke rudkowski
Oh yeah, absolutely.
He's definitely very competent and I'm so happy he's in charge as we are on the brink of Armageddon.
As he says himself last night, he was literally talking about how we're closer to Armageddon since the first time since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
He's also talking about how Putin is deadly serious about using tactical nukes in Ukraine and Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
Look at this tweet, this is a good one.
It's one of these gotcha tweets.
Joe Biden says, you won't have to worry about my tweets when I'm president.
And then under it it says, President Joe Biden says the risk of nuclear Armageddon is at the highest level since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
My response was, yeah, what do you mean, come on, no mean tweets.
Like, there you go.
But I just love that juxtaposition.
You don't gotta worry about my tweets.
And then the news, the world is about to end.
ian crossland
I wonder if he's setting us up to be a hero.
Like, he's like, hey, I averted World War III, everybody.
Or like, yeah, but you got us close to it, too, in the first place.
tim pool
Hey, but I did get you away from it.
I saved you from nuclear war.
unidentified
You almost started it, but I did save you from that.
bill ottman
He did come out with the marijuana stuff.
What was that, yesterday?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, but apparently it's not actually exonerating anybody.
Apparently the marijuana thing is just going to, like, your past convictions are erased.
bill ottman
Yeah, I saw that.
ian crossland
Oh, it's not letting people out?
bill ottman
No, it's not letting people out.
tim pool
They can't get out of jail.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Even for federal offenses?
bill ottman
It seemed that it was a pardon.
The language pardon was in there for thousands of... I don't know if it's current or past.
tim pool
I think it's past.
So...
I see a lot of these lefties being like, Joe Biden's a great president because he just pardoned all these marijuana convictions or whatever.
And I was like, oh, that's cool.
I'm in favor of that.
I think Trump should have done the same thing.
And then my response is like, how many people were released?
And everyone said none.
It was just exonerating their records or something.
bill ottman
And they're trying to reschedule it.
ian crossland
Because that's the value.
Because if they take it off of schedule one, then they'll stop treating it like heroin and stop throwing people in federal prison for it.
tim pool
Isn't that crazy though that basically the only reason pot became legal is because everyone just decided it was and ignored the law?
I was talking about this with Half-Baked.
It's literally a movie from the 2000s, or was it late 90s?
I don't know.
Where a bunch of dudes are just outright committing crimes and it's relatable and funny.
It's just weird.
Even in it, when Dave Chappelle is at the lab and the doctor rips the huge chunk off and hands it to him.
ian crossland
It's a tragedy what they did to marijuana in the 1900s.
What was it?
Harry J. Anslinger and William Randolph Hearst got together.
Hearst owned all these trees and he wanted to take people off of the hemp paper industry and make, well paper industry, he wanted to make trees.
So he got Harry J. Anslinger and I think he was the guy, his congress point man.
to start printing up all this propaganda like reefer madness make people afraid they said that black it made black people like blood blood lusty and stuff like crazy nonsensical propaganda that wasn't true and they made enough people afraid of it that they were able to make it federally legal and then William Randolph Hearst had the monopoly on the paper trade after that It's stuck for a long time.
tim pool
I mean, I think that's an interesting story, right?
He was like a newspaper magnate or whatever.
Is that how you pronounce that?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You look at the people who control the narratives, when they have the ability to manipulate and control media, and you see what ends up happening because of it.
They can just be like, this thing goes against my interest, so have my newspapers tell everybody to do as I say.
And they do.
ian crossland
Freaking nuts.
But he did it with Congress's help, which is what really makes it scandalous.
tim pool
Yeah, but the thing about Congress, You know, the Republicans are a great example.
Republicans are more concerned about the opinion of the New York Times than the opinion of their own constituents.
And that's exactly the power of the media.
So, with the Internet, the reason why we're seeing big tech freak out the way it is and this whole Elon Musk thing has become such a big deal is We've, we've, I mean, us, I guess, you know, many of us, especially you guys, minds, we've taken away their ability to just monopolize the narrative.
And they're losing their minds because of it, and they're losing power because of it.
And they're, you know, it's like, it's like watching a dude sinking in quicksand, screaming and thrashing around.
And you wanna, you wanna feel bad, you're like, I know that they're sinking, and they're like, doomed, but they're also just really evil.
So you can only just sit back and be like, maybe we shouldn't have this apparatus anymore, you know what I mean?
ian crossland
Yeah, I'd still like to encourage them to not thrash so much, because that's what's causing them to sink.
Maybe it's the thrashing that's evil, not the actual person.
tim pool
Yeah, if they just, you know, laid forward, and then your legs come out, and then you can crawl away, but they don't get it.
They're just swinging violently, screaming.
You know, it's like when we had this raccoon problem.
And, you know, we want to feel bad for this raccoon who was trying to kill our chickens, so when we walk up to the trap, and we're like, aw, the poor little thing, it goes, and we're like, get it out of here, and then we have to get rid of it, you know?
That's what it's like.
The media is failing, it's dying, and these people are losing their jobs and all that, and then I'm just like, yeah, but they're like nasty people who just fling crap at your face, you know?
You walk up to them, you feel bad, like, maybe, you know, these journalists, you know, I see they're panicking, maybe they need work, and they just fling feces right at you, and you're like, okay, dude, Okay, go away.
You don't deserve to have a job, I guess.
bill ottman
You would think Twitter would be changing amid seeing the reaction to the Elon takeover, but they're thrashing.
They continue to ban, even despite this lawsuit that's happening.
So what is your current take on the situation?
Like it because Twitter wants Elon Twitter wants the the court trial to happen still yeah
tim pool
Yeah, because because Elon was asking for more time and they said making sure the trial still happens until this
finalizes like prevents mischief Or something I guess if they're
bill ottman
Poop tweets.
They're concerned about mischief.
They don't want any more poop emoji from... You know what, man?
tim pool
Bill was late to the show, so normally what we do is we get a thumbnail where the guest is sitting across from me and then I press record and then I screenshot it, but Bill wasn't here.
So I was just like, empty chair it is!
And I just want to say, that right there is the big difference between the establishment and the traditional media machine and what we represent.
We can just screw around like that and be silly about it and have fun.
And just, it is what it is.
And I was like, if this was like a major network, they'd be panicking.
They'd be like, pull archival!
We gotta get something!
We can't be, we have to wear our suits and ties!
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you can't have fake bazonkas on national television!
Not allowed!
tim pool
Could you imagine a guest going on Tucker Carlson with gigantic fake boobies like Luke did?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I mean, Fox would probably have, you know...
bill ottman
Did you see that Danny Polishuk got a pair?
ian crossland
Oh, he did?
Yeah.
tim pool
From that high school teacher thing or whatever?
bill ottman
Yeah, he was doing videos with it.
What's he doing?
I just saw a photo of it when they arrived at his house.
I didn't see the video yet.
ian crossland
What do you think of Elon buying Twitter?
bill ottman
I mean, bring it on.
It's better than status quo.
You know, we saw, did you guys see his text with Dorsey?
tim pool
Some of them.
ian crossland
Yeah.
bill ottman
So it's like they both are, you know, Dorsey, what's infuriating is that he knows open source, decentralization, encryption, Bitcoin.
He knows that this is all where it needs to go, but he had decades to make that happen with Twitter and couldn't do it.
He even said in the text, I don't have power.
I have 3% of the company.
I can't do anything.
But he was telling Elon, this is where you need to take it.
He was saying there needs to be no company, actually, because the company becomes an attack vector.
tim pool
Right.
bill ottman
So, company-less decentralized protocols are what we need.
That's what's beautiful about Bitcoin, because Satoshi is totally anonymous.
There's no one to go after.
tim pool
Why didn't Dorsey do anything?
I know he had that one operation.
What was that called?
ian crossland
Blue Sky.
tim pool
Blue Sky, right.
bill ottman
Yeah, it still exists.
They're doing research and stuff, but I don't...
You know, and then when the transition happened and the new CEO was coming in, Parag, he dorsied to this blog post where he was like, I feel in my gut that this is really the right decision for the company.
You know, we're gonna, you know, things are gonna get better.
And then it's just like, nothing changes.
There's no, you know, in fact, his Parag statements about free speech are the opposite.
Like, Right.
tim pool
You know what would be amazing?
Day one, Elon gets the company, it converts into a blockchain, and then Twitter removes itself from any moderation capabilities.
It becomes a totally decentralized networking tool.
So it's just like, we can't ban anybody anymore.
luke rudkowski
Or he just buys it and deletes it for the benefit of the world.
ian crossland
Could he buy it and make all the code free?
bill ottman
Well, he should.
But we need the version history so we can see all the algorithm changes they made punishing people over the years.
Those are the skeletons in the closet.
Every code change in Git, there's a version history so you can see, oh, they started punishing this type of content on this date in, you know, the election season.
And, you know, that data exists.
And, like, it needs to be audited.
ian crossland
Can they scrub version histories?
bill ottman
Not easily.
ian crossland
But they can?
bill ottman
I don't, I think that would be unlikely.
I think that if he opensources the code, he said he was going to opensource it, so hopefully he does.
tim pool
So real quick, real quick.
This is important.
If Elon Musk does finalize his buyout of this company, he's gonna have logs showing that Twitter was targeting conservatives.
Or people on the right.
It's funny because it's the weirdest thing.
Gizmodo publishes a story Facebook censoring conservative news outlets.
I then go, hey everybody, wow, that's crazy, look, Facebook censoring.
Then I get smeared as pushing conspiracy theories for believing what Gizmodo publishes.
It's gonna be very vindicating for everybody.
If Elon Musk does do this.
So I certainly hope he does.
But I have to wonder as well.
I think what's going to come out of Twitter's closet is going to be more than skeletons.
There's going to be some real dark stuff.
We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we'll probably see internal communications of them defending child abusers and explaining why this, you know what I mean?
bill ottman
Well, this is gonna get complicated because Elon is gonna have a tough decision to make because he now is responsible for this company and the financial success of this.
This is why he wants to take a private, which makes sense because he will have a fiduciary duty to potentially not share a lot of the skeletons, which could get dicey.
luke rudkowski
So Bill, if I could ask you, you have a lot of history with social media, obviously with Mines.
If you were Elon Musk, what would you do right now?
bill ottman
I mean, I think he's doing what he can.
unidentified
He's trying not to buy it though.
luke rudkowski
Let's say the acquisition finally goes through.
You have Twitter.
What would you do if you were Elon with Twitter?
bill ottman
You immediately open source all the code.
You immediately make all the messages end-to-end encrypted so thousands of Twitter employees can't read our messages.
It's just like so absurd.
tim pool
Didn't Facebook make end-to-end encryption?
bill ottman
No, WhatsApp says they did.
luke rudkowski
Or the Saudi government can't read protesters' private DMs and messages of human rights activists like they did before through Twitter.
tim pool
I got a question.
Do you think that Twitter receives money from governments to allow them backdoors?
bill ottman
I think that it is, I don't know.
luke rudkowski
Verizon does, AT&T does.
tim pool
So I think there's a strong possibility that one of the reasons Elon may have backed out is he may have gone to Twitter and says, I want to buy the company.
And they went, here are the lucrative contracts, keeping the company afloat that you can never reveal because governments are paying for backdoors and you can't reveal those.
And then Elon went, crap.
luke rudkowski
It might not just be contracts.
It might be just threats and duress of the government saying, we're going to shut you down, or we're going to make sure you can't do business if you don't do what you want us to do.
bill ottman
Well, that's 100% true.
luke rudkowski
And then 15 years ago, we were reporting on specific stories of the NSA, of the federal government, having their own office spaces inside of the headquarters of Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile.
The major cell phone providers in this country had entire floors dedicated to the federal government that was spying and watching on everyone.
What's Twitter involved in?
tim pool
It's like that movie, The Santa Clause, with Tim Allen.
How, like, being Santa is actually a curse.
You guys know what I'm talking about, right?
Like, Santa's on his roof, and then Tim Allen kills the guy, and then steals his clothes, and for some reason puts them on, and then becomes Santa, and loses his family, and then it's like a mind virus that makes him happy about it, right?
I am somewhat being cute, but no, what I mean is Elon Musk or anybody, it feels like he goes to Twitter and they're like, no, no, no, no, don't buy this company, don't buy this company.
And then finally they're like, okay, buy the company.
And now they're looking at this like, we are going to get paid to leave and not have to be involved in this behind the scenes national security BS.
I would bet, here's a way I'll play it.
If I went to a casino and I saw blackjack, roulette, and do you think the US government has national security letters sent to Twitter demanding backdoors?
I would put all my money on that.
I'm not playing any other game, because that's a sure shot.
Elon Musk comes in, asks them, like, okay, show me corporate documents.
And he's got an NDA.
And not only that, but a national security letter with a gag order from the government, and he went, Crap.
And they're like, you can't say anything about it.
You have to buy it.
And if and when you do buy it, you won't be able to do anything you want to do, because they will force you to give them the back doors.
And we already saw the White House going to Facebook and saying ban these people.
There is a 0% chance they did not do that with Twitter.
And Elon probably saw that.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, it's not just a backdoor to the information.
I think it's even more than that.
I think it's deciding who gets censored, deciding which voices get downranked in the algorithm.
I think the federal government is way more involved, not just with, of course, the intelligence agencies helping give a lot of these big tech social media companies their start, but what do you think of this running your own social media network?
What's the possibility of what me and Tim are talking about?
bill ottman
Yeah, very likely.
I mean, well, we saw the Alex Berenson.
All these discovery documents came out recently between Twitter and the White House, where Alex Berenson got banned from Twitter and sued them.
tim pool
Exactly.
bill ottman
It's the Slack conversation of the Twitter employees saying, oh, you know, I forget the guy's name at the White House, said, why is Alex Berenson still on the platform?
tim pool
So to amend my earlier statement, when I said there's a 0% chance, no, actually, the evidence already been released by Alex Berenson.
Yeah.
The thing I was pointing to is when they were talking about Instagram, I think, when the White House was like, hey, this one's not ours.
Can you do something about it?
And it was the Anthony Fauci parody.
So we know the government, they're doing the wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
And I think worse than that, obviously.
But I'm wondering if, say the Saudis, they go to Twitter and say, how much will it cost to get access to your back end, to get back doors?
Twitter needs money.
bill ottman
I think it's possible for Elon to switch paths, but he's going to have to start playing hardball with major countries and risking Twitter getting banned in those countries if he doesn't play ball.
It's a marketing dream for SpaceX and Tesla to have Twitter as a marketing engine for those companies.
So it makes a lot of sense for Elon to be- It's a question of, in order to do this,
tim pool
Elon has to get banks to back it.
Money has to come from somewhere.
And no one is willing to pay the full price to take the platform and then just convert it
into a blockchain, open source, decentralized network.
If that were to happen, you can't ban anybody ever again.
bill ottman
They can coexist, though.
You can have a centralized infrastructure and a decentralized infrastructure running parallel.
We actually just integrated with a new network called NOSTR, which stands for Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relay.
There's relays all over the world.
Everybody has a crypto key pair that we don't have access to as mines.
That's your identity.
You can bring your followers and your content and log into other apps.
You can leave us.
It's not a blockchain, but it's a distributed system.
So, you know, there's other projects out there that are like this.
You've got the Fediverse.
You've got ActivityPup.
You've got Farcaster as a new one.
You've got Planetare.
You've got Secure Scuttlebutt.
There's all these protocols that are, like, in the mix, and Twitter can integrate, and Facebook, and Rumble.
Other networks, we're going to talk with them about integrating.
We can get all of the alternative tech sites to join as well so we're all participating, but that doesn't mean you have to abandon the existing infrastructure as well.
They can run in parallel.
luke rudkowski
And Elon did express interest in working with Rumble.
So I think that also is giving a lot of people optimism.
But as we're talking about here, Twitter is a major powerhouse.
Twitter is a vector of influence that a lot of powerful governments need and want in their fingertips.
And it would be foolish to think that their fingertips and fingers and hands aren't already in this larger influence.
that Twitter and big tech social media has. Just in 2019 there was an ex-Twitter employee that was
found guilty for spying for the Saudi government, specifically going through private messages,
going after dissidents of the Saudi empire, and sharing that information directly with
Mohammed bin Salman. So again, that's just one example of a government using that.
bill ottman
Twitter's revenue model is, Twitter's addicted to surveillance advertising, just like Facebook,
and so Elon needs to rip that out.
You know, Elon knows how to make money.
He knows how to make people pay like, you know, 50 to 100k for a car.
Like, he has some of the most profitable, you know, money-making machines in the world.
He can figure out how to make Twitter way more profitable without doing all the nonsense.
It is possible.
ian crossland
Yeah, you do something like Super Minds, where you send somebody an offer, and then they can accept the offer to respond.
luke rudkowski
So back to the question, because we cut you off really quickly.
bill ottman
Nice one.
luke rudkowski
You are Elon.
bill ottman
Let's get back to this.
ian crossland
Yeah, let's talk more about these.
luke rudkowski
You are Elon.
Ian, feel free to jump in on this.
If you're Elon as well, you have Twitter.
What do you do?
ian crossland
That's my question.
You said he opensource everything.
bill ottman
Yeah.
Do you, so would that be like... Reinstate everybody, obviously.
ian crossland
When you say open source, you mean AGPL-3, like a copy-left license?
bill ottman
There's multiple licenses that could work.
I hope that he actually does it, because I remember when all those news came out about, oh, Tesla's open sourcing their batteries.
unidentified
Remember that?
bill ottman
That was not real.
He decided not to be a patent troll.
He decided to sort of open the patent so he wasn't going to go around suing other competitors in the general space.
But the code of the software running on Tesla's, the battery blueprints, none of that is open source.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the difference between a lot of the cars is just the software that you're paying for.
That's not open source.
bill ottman
Yeah, the same software that is running the AI on the new Tesla bots is what's running in the car.
It's the same system.
tim pool
I got an idea.
So we're talking to this fabricator, metal fabricator guy, about building a one-of-a-kind unique electric car.
We should do it with Minds.
It should be powered by Minds.
So like your digital console is like a Minds console.
bill ottman
Oh yeah, because you need an operating system and an app within the car.
tim pool
So let's do it.
So we can do it really, we were talking, we can make like a really cheap electric car.
And I was like, as a gag, we have like a 2006 Cobalt with 230,000 miles on it.
And I was like, yeah, let's do that and not fix anything and be like, boom, one of a kind.
Or we could actually make a really cool car, like actually works and everything.
We should have it like integrate with mines.
bill ottman
Let's do it.
I saw some, there's some amazing like refurbishing companies that can take like any car and just make an electric car.
Like there's this one page on, uh, I forget.
It's, it's, they take Volkswagen specifically and they'll make it any Volkswagen electric from any period of time.
luke rudkowski
I'm gonna make the Flintstone car and beat all of you guys, including Tesla, when the EMP goes off and nuclear armageddon happens.
ian crossland
But will you run barefoot?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Like, the funny thing with a Flintstone's car is, like, pedals exist.
We've discovered that quite a long time ago.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, but it doesn't look as funny in the cartoons when you're pedaling with your feet on the floor.
tim pool
You ever see those cars where there's two sets of pedals in the front and the back and everyone in the car is pedaling and it's going?
There you go, man.
bill ottman
I was just going to say that I did ask, we sent a message to Elon asking this question.
I don't know if he'll answer it, but there needs to be a Tesla that is not subject to just getting shut down from Tesla HQ, like you're talking about.
I could see him getting behind that.
A Tesla that's sovereign and the software's running locally so that It's just not like sketchy dystopian possibility.
tim pool
But do you know that, um, I'm not sure, Luke, if you know this, some of them have cameras pointing at you, the driver.
And if you aren't paying attention or something, it alerts you and it records that.
It uses it against you.
That is nightmarishly dystopian.
bill ottman
It has that history too, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Because I saw in the console of the Model S there's a camera, and I was like, I googled it, and I'm like, that's cool?
Because Uber drivers, for instance, they turn cameras on to film their passengers, and I'm like, that could be helpful if there's a car accident, if you're sideswiped or something.
You have no access to that camera.
It is for them to spy on you as you drive.
Creepy.
bill ottman
So there's no, obviously you can't log into your Tesla account and check out.
Yeah, like what data is in your Tesla account?
tim pool
Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't know.
bill ottman
I doubt that they give you access to all the footage of your stuff.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
So the side cameras you can.
bill ottman
Oh yeah?
tim pool
So I can pull up my phone right now and look at my car in the garage, the Model 3.
Yeah, that's really cool, but there's an internal camera and I'm like, what is that all about?
luke rudkowski
The CIA has access to all of it, live, as it's going on, most likely, without a doubt.
tim pool
The NSA.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there's no way that they don't.
So, you know, I would automatically tape up that camera as fast as I can, but I heard some car manufacturers take away your ability to do self-driving if you cover up that camera,
because the cameras are focused on your eyes to make sure that your eyes are focused on the road.
And if your eyes and hands aren't focused on the road and the wheel,
they stop automatic driving and make you drive instead of having the car drive you.
tim pool
You guys know that basically all new cars are self-driving.
So Tesla has full self-driving capability only after your car has driven on the highway,
on autopilot for 100 miles, you have a high safety score and they approve you.
So my Model 3 apparently just got recently, like, congratulations, it's now entitled to full self-driving, and that's where the car will actually stop at the stop sign, check, and then slowly turn right, and the steering wheel is spinning by itself.
But most of them, when people think of like, oh, the Teslas can drive themselves, and then you get in the Tesla for the first time, and you're like, autopilot, and you're like, wow, all it does is just the steering wheel moves a little bit left and right on the highway.
That's it.
It'll speed up, slow down.
So when I first saw that, when I got the Model 3, I was like, whoa, this is crazy.
I'm like, I'm on the highway, and like, it's moving itself.
Then I got a Honda.
It's got the same thing!
Modern Honda has the exact same thing.
No difference.
It's auto-steer and cruise control.
So I'm on the highway and I'm like, oh.
bill ottman
That's what they call it, auto-steer?
tim pool
It's called something like lane correction or something like that, I don't know.
So the Honda can't activate a full self-drive like the Tesla can, but Teslas don't come with that anyway.
You have to earn a special pilot, you know, a beta or something.
bill ottman
Could Honda run of self-driving upgrade?
tim pool
Probably.
bill ottman
Remotely?
tim pool
I have to imagine if they can drive themselves on the highway, they can drive themselves in the streets.
So I don't know.
I think the Tesla's don't use sonar anymore or radar or something like that.
And it switched to just camera.
And I noticed this because I think when they switched it, it got way worse.
It, like, doesn't understand what's going on anymore.
And I wonder why.
Maybe, statistically, the radar or sonar or whatever it was, was worse, and now, like, cameras are better, but then if you get, like, schmutz on the camera or something, then it just turns off on you.
I was driving in the rain, and I have it on self-drive autopilot on the highway, and I'm going 70 miles an hour, and it's making a turn, and then we get close to a semi, and it goes, boop-boom, and just turns off, and I'm like, what the?
Like, that's scary.
You keep your hands on the wheel the whole time, so you're going with it.
When it stops, just like, whoa.
ian crossland
It sounds tragedy waiting to happen, man.
They encourage you to take your hands off the wheel.
How is that going to make you more attentive to the road?
unidentified
No, no, no.
ian crossland
You can't do that.
So they want you to be sitting there like a zombie, but still somehow be more, like, you're going to become less attentive to what's going on if you're not actually supposed to be attending to it.
How can that be good?
tim pool
For the self-driving, you have to have weight on the steering wheel.
Your hands have to be on it.
If you take them off, it'll go...
ian crossland
All you should be doing is watching the road and paying attention to the road when you're driving.
tim pool
In which case, there's no difference between you moving the steering wheel a few millimeters
and it moving a few millimeters itself. It is convenient when you're changing the radio
and you're not scared of dying because it's helping you.
But, you know, look, I'm driving in the rain. I turned on self-drive and I'm sitting there
bill ottman
the whole time like, oh, yeah, but Yeah, but what about for people who, like, pass out driving?
tim pool
It'll save lives.
bill ottman
Yeah, it will.
tim pool
But here's the problem, it won't actually, to a certain degree, if autopilot is on, and then you have a medical episode, you'll probably be safer than if you didn't have autopilot, but this thing won't break.
It's like, it breaks for the stupidest things.
The light is green, and it goes breaking for green light.
And I'm like, why?
And you gotta press the accelerator.
There's a stoplight ahead sign.
It's a picture of a stoplight.
And the Tesla stops for it.
And so you have to press the accelerator.
Otherwise, here's the craziest thing.
It's raining.
I'm driving straight and someone's pulling onto the highway and they're going slow waiting for me to pass and all of a sudden the Tesla slammed the brakes on to zero from 70 and we just like lunge forward like this has happened three times just this past weekend and so it got to the point where we're like maybe we should not use this anymore.
ian crossland
Yeah, maybe wait 15 or 20 years till after they stop testing nuclear bombs right next to where the tree went to
tim pool
like seven Wow
It went from 70 just like slammed the brakes on in the rain and then the truck trying to come in slams its brakes
I'm like, what are you doing? And I'm just like that is not sane. The fantasy is you take your driver's
ian crossland
Seat and you spin it around and you and your passenger spins theirs around and there's four of you all hanging out
in the back Of the car while it's driving you that's the fantasy that
they're aiming for but I mean good God, there's no tracks It's not a train. Yeah wind can push the car a kid can
knock a Basketball out into the road on accident, but there is one
tim pool
thing to add to this when all cars Communicate with each other then you have a lot less to
ian crossland
worry about But it's gonna have to be more than all cars.
It'll be like satellites and houses and telephones and they'll all be telling everyone where everyone is and all the machines will know and they'll be anticipating.
tim pool
But Ian, it'll be okay.
You'll be in the metaverse.
You'll be one with... You'll be safer that way.
You'll be in the machine.
ian crossland
You will be the machine.
You have always been the machine.
luke rudkowski
Driving a car is very dangerous, and there are a lot of people that die every single day just from driving a car.
A lot of people don't realize how actually dangerous, statistically, it is.
So I think this self-driving will be sold as, hey, we're gonna make everyone safe.
No one's gonna die from car accidents anymore if All the cars are self-driving, therefore none of the cars are going to be crashing into each other.
I think that's the latest ploy.
That's how they're going to get rid of truckers.
That's how they're going to get rid of taxi drivers.
That's how they're going to get rid of any four higher driver.
tim pool
It'll be illegal to drive.
They've talked about this.
Cars in the future will not have the ability to be driven.
bill ottman
Or your insurance will be so drastically more expensive.
luke rudkowski
Not only that, but in Europe they're already limiting cars that can't go above a certain miles per hour, like kilometers per hour or whatever they have over there in Europe.
But they're limiting, you know, roads.
tim pool
They measure things in stone.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
tim pool
And turtle shells.
luke rudkowski
In totally nonsensical ways.
But there's already government shutdown switches that they have in European cars that are going to be developed very soon, where the government will have the access to particular vehicles and to be able to turn them off any time that they want.
ian crossland
You guys were saying if there's a health emergency for a driver, their hands come off the wheel?
It'll shut off.
Self-driving shuts off.
unidentified
It doesn't pull over.
tim pool
And then you crash.
ian crossland
No, no.
unidentified
No, it's not.
bill ottman
So it doesn't even help that.
tim pool
Right.
bill ottman
Oh.
tim pool
No, but like, if you are, for about 30 seconds, I think, it will, it'll start, like if you pass out.
bill ottman
It'll wake you up.
tim pool
Well, it starts going, wah, wah, wah.
bill ottman
But if you're having a seizure.
tim pool
If you're having a seizure or something, it's not gonna help.
So, over hills is hilarious.
They cannot drive over hills.
Because the cameras can't see anything.
So it just, immediately, once you go up a hill, wah, wah, wah, wah.
Once you get to the top, If you're driving and there's an error for some reason, I've had auto drive shut off as error disengaging, you'll just go straight off the road.
bill ottman
They will keep getting better because all of your data is just training data.
tim pool
Right.
bill ottman
So over time it's going to improve.
tim pool
And now there's Teslas everywhere.
It was crazy.
I'm driving around, every third car I see is like a Tesla and I'm just like, wow, they're everywhere, man.
ian crossland
Are your Teslas going to be tweeting at you?
tim pool
Tweeting at you?
ian crossland
I'm low on gas.
You'll get a tweet from... Gas?
Tim Pool's Tesla, yeah.
Or I'm low on charge.
I only have 32% charge, at Tim Cast.
tim pool
They already do that.
They don't tweet at me and my thing buzzes and it's like, Luke was driving my Tesla and he left the door open.
And then it was like, your door is open.
And I'm like, I don't care, it's in the garage.
And then I wake up with like 12 notifications like, your door is open.
ian crossland
Dude, Elon used to watch Knight Rider for sure, dude.
He's trying to build Kit.
It's gonna be like...
A very funny joke at Timcast.
And you'll be like, oh, thanks, Tesla.
tim pool
It's not going to say that to me.
bill ottman
Have you guys played with Stable Diffusion or DALI?
tim pool
Oh, DALI.
bill ottman
So DALI is the closed source version.
Stable Diffusion is where it's at.
tim pool
Is that where you can like auto-generate?
bill ottman
Yeah, pictures based on text.
tim pool
We did that on the show.
I think we did a bunch of AI generation of like Trump and Pelosi, and it was like nightmarishly hilarious.
bill ottman
They're scary.
A lot of the images are like some horror movie.
tim pool
What's it called?
Stable Diffusion?
bill ottman
Stable Diffusion.
It's not like a company.
It's a project, so you can't just... Stability.ai.
If you go to replicate.com, you can... Yeah, Stability, they created it.
tim pool
Do they have... Can I use it here?
Wow.
ian crossland
Replicate.com?
bill ottman
Replicate is a good place to use Stable Diffusion.
tim pool
Replicate.com?
bill ottman
You do have to pay.
tim pool
Oh, I see, I see, I see.
ian crossland
That's a profit market waiting to happen.
You don't have to hire employees to do a bunch of your stuff anymore.
bill ottman
But Stable Diffusion is dominating DALI now.
So OpenAI, which Elon actually was a part of, I'm not sure how involved he is now, but most of their code is not even open.
Some of their stuff is.
So they do some open source, but they were trying to make the argument that Stable diffusion would be bad for artists because it's going to put them out of business because people can just, if they need a graphic generated, they can just go.
tim pool
Have you seen the video generators?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Okay.
So, wow.
I typed in stable diffusion demo, Bill Ottman.
This is what we got.
Here we go.
ian crossland
Nice.
unidentified
Kinda looks like you.
bill ottman
I've got some meat on my bones.
tim pool
I don't understand who this is and why they think it's you.
ian crossland
It's gotta be Orson Welles.
luke rudkowski
Ottoman Empire, probably?
ian crossland
Oh, it's Ottoman, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, I see.
Generate image Luke Rudkowski.
This really is good.
The Dolly mini was not that good.
We'll get Joe Biden in there in a second, but let's see if we can get Luke Rudkowski.
What is this?
Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Let's see what it pulls up.
ian crossland
Or you have to put it in quotes?
The word?
Would that work?
tim pool
Dream Studio Beta.
unidentified
Oh, hey!
ian crossland
That bottom left one looks good.
tim pool
Oh, that's so creepy!
ian crossland
What is this?
luke rudkowski
That's going to be you in like 30 years.
tim pool
30 years?
Whoa, man.
bill ottman
That looks more like Chris in the upper right.
tim pool
That was so creepy.
ian crossland
That was wild.
tim pool
It was like some of it was kind of close.
unidentified
It wasn't a pool.
ian crossland
Your facial hair.
luke rudkowski
It was not a pool.
bill ottman
Clearly, you have more photos in the, you know, the machine learning library.
luke rudkowski
Oh, this is the bottom left one.
tim pool
This is okay.
I'm bothered by this.
You know why?
It's not funny.
unidentified
Well, you have to do a sentence like Joe Biden eating a cat.
bill ottman
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, this is awesome.
ian crossland
And they're saying they're making movies.
tim pool
It's a very, it's a very important news show we run here.
Joe Biden eating a cat.
ian crossland
You'll be in the metaverse and you'll be like, you'll think something and it will appear in front of you.
tim pool
That's crazy, dude.
And you'll imagine universes.
unidentified
The one on the bottom right.
tim pool
Here we go.
Uh, Donald Trump hug.
No, no, wait, wait, wait.
High fiving Joe Biden.
There we go.
It's all about unity.
bill ottman
It's all about love.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
We got to bring it together.
Hi Donald Trump.
High fiving Joe Biden.
bill ottman
It looks like the sentences take a little longer to render.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There's more in it.
This is great.
Let's do a, let's do Nancy Pelosi stealing COVID masks.
Here we go, it's loading.
luke rudkowski
Nancy Pelosi robbing citizens.
unidentified
Oh, look at this!
ian crossland
That's amazing, dude!
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
Look at Joe Biden and Donald Trump shaking hands!
ian crossland
That's an image I've wanted to see for a long time.
tim pool
And we've made it a reality through the artificial intelligence.
ian crossland
Look at that bottom right, man!
bill ottman
It'd be funny if you ran news, like for TimCast articles, run the headline through this to generate the thumbnail for the news story.
tim pool
That's actually a good idea.
Do we have the rights to that?
bill ottman
You do, yeah.
tim pool
Hunter Biden going to jail.
Let's just fulfill our wildest dreams with this dream studio here.
Luke's taking a picture of it.
luke rudkowski
I'm setting my team.
I'm like, this is how we're going to do thumbnails from now on.
ian crossland
This would be cool if he went to the jail to see Joe, who was in the jail.
But I don't think the AI is that smart.
I'm loving the bottom left.
Look at that face.
tim pool
Hey, it looks like the guy from Better Call Saul.
The bad guy.
ian crossland
Do a Vladimir Putin, Joe Biden world peace.
I wonder how esoteric this thing gets.
bill ottman
Putin's misspelled.
tim pool
Putin.
Vladimir Putin signing peace treaty with Biden.
It's too busy!
No, no, no, no.
Don't you do that.
ian crossland
This one I cannot do.
luke rudkowski
Some things are too challenging even for me.
Impossible.
Not gonna happen.
tim pool
What if we do like Donald Trump in drag?
ian crossland
Yes.
All night.
tim pool
Here we go.
Vladimir Putin's... Oh, I put singing peace treaty.
That works too.
Let's see what happens.
bill ottman
Yeah, I'm into it.
tim pool
Singing peace treaty with Biden.
Fridays are fun, aren't they?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Come on, give me.
What's this?
It's still going.
Oh, there we go.
Is he signing it with himself?
ian crossland
That is weird.
tim pool
It's Putin signing a deal with himself.
All of them are.
What is this?
These two are just Putin signing deals with Putin.
unidentified
Which just proves this war is inter-conflict.
ian crossland
This is Putin's inter-conflict, man.
unidentified
And change signing to singing.
tim pool
Singing?
Oh man, I think maybe because we did the show, people have started using it.
bill ottman
Oh, cool.
luke rudkowski
Type in World War 3.
tim pool
Oh, that's a good idea.
It'll show like Joe Biden smiling.
luke rudkowski
Or Woke World 3.
bill ottman
Yeah, this will eventually be able to generate a movie probably.
It'll just...
tim pool
Yeah, there's an app.
bill ottman
What was the one you were saying?
tim pool
There's a commercial for it.
I forgot what it's called, but I saw it on Twitter.
And it's, you can type in a video and it will make a video for you.
And it's a loading bar.
It takes some time to generate.
But someone wrote, B-roll footage of moving through a forest towards a lake.
And then it's like, you see the trees and it was crazy.
ian crossland
Dude, people be like, show me a 35-year life of me having three boys and a wife and a beautiful
full house and they will live 35 years in their own AI generated environment.
tim pool
You're in it now.
ian crossland
Oh, that makes sense.
tim pool
It's gonna be worse than that.
You guys, what you don't realize... Now they're both in it.
Look at them having fun.
But there's two Putins!
Look at this!
Here you go.
Look at this.
There's two Bidens.
unidentified
What is this?
ian crossland
It's so interesting.
luke rudkowski
It's their body doubles, obviously.
tim pool
Look at this right here.
This one's pretty good, actually.
luke rudkowski
The AI knows that they have body doubles.
tim pool
Now, what you don't realize is, Ian, you're wrong about that.
unidentified
It's gonna be a guy being like, I want two big-titty women, and I want them in front of me.
tim pool
It's gonna, you know.
You know, it's gonna get worse.
bill ottman
The porn industry is gonna take it over.
tim pool
All right, come on, guys.
luke rudkowski
World War III.
tim pool
Show me World War III.
I want to see it.
Here we go.
Oh, it's taking a long time on this one.
So what is it doing?
Is it using Google or something?
bill ottman
I don't actually know the full library of what it's pulling from.
tim pool
This is awesome.
bill ottman
Yeah.
ian crossland
Bookmark this.
This is legit.
bill ottman
And there's all different variations.
tim pool
Huggingface.co.
bill ottman
Yeah, Huggingface is a cool AI community.
tim pool
Word to war.
ian crossland
With two Rs.
bill ottman
It distorts language when you put it in.
Did you hear that the AI created its own language?
ian crossland
Yeah, Facebook AI.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, there was, it was Dolly, I think, I'm not sure, but one of these auto generators started, people would, you would type in like a bowl of vegetables, and there would be like a weird word that would be like vlagabo, and then when you typed that in, it would give you the same kind of vegetable every time.
Something about the AI created a word that represented an image.
It was crazy.
bill ottman
Yeah, because you can do this in reverse as well.
So you can feed an image and it'll spit text.
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
What's this website called?
bill ottman
Hugging Face is an AI community.
ian crossland
HuggingFace.com.
tim pool
I'm down to just keep generating images all night because it's hilarious.
Everybody's hitting it up now and I can't get it to work anymore.
bill ottman
Let's get one with Lydia for her last episode when she comes back.
tim pool
I typed in Ian Crossland.
We didn't do him yet.
ian crossland
Anything good?
tim pool
Well, it's coming.
ian crossland
It's coming.
tim pool
What if it shows, like, Ian on a throne of skulls?
ian crossland
Give me Ian Crosland Mushrooms after this.
That search result.
tim pool
Oh, it's coming, it's coming.
ian crossland
Here we go.
unidentified
I think it'll get it.
tim pool
I think it'll get it.
ian crossland
You will.
tim pool
What is this?
ian crossland
There I am.
What is this?
bill ottman
What are you doing?
tim pool
It doesn't look anything like Bill Nye.
ian crossland
Inekesidex.
bill ottman
Yeah, I do look like Bill Nye.
ian crossland
They used to tell me I looked like Bill Nye.
tim pool
Inekesidex.
ian crossland
What is that?
tim pool
What is this?
He says Ian IO Greece.
ian crossland
There's a lot of Ians out there.
tim pool
Who's this guy?
Is he selling me a product?
ian crossland
People used to be like, you're like Bill Nye.
He's like a comedian, but he likes science.
And I was like, he's so dorky.
luke rudkowski
The second American Civil War.
ian crossland
Hey, final question.
One other question I had about the Elon acquisition of Twitter.
You said open source everything.
Was that hyperbole?
Are there like security algorithms that you don't open source when open sourcing an entire library of social networks code?
bill ottman
Oh, I mean, yeah, you don't open source the data, but the code, there's not reason to not open it.
ian crossland
Like even security stuff?
bill ottman
Yeah.
No, open source encryption is better encryption.
It's generally agreed upon that it's the most audited.
It's the most battle tested.
Just because you open source that doesn't mean that people can hack it.
ian crossland
And when you say don't open source the data, what's the data?
bill ottman
Everybody's data.
tim pool
Yeah, check it out.
It's a second American Civil War, but it just gives you the first.
All right, let's do Lydia from Timcast.
Here we go.
Here you go, Lydia.
We're making a robot.
bill ottman
Ian, the only thing not to open source that they would not want to would be, like, how bots, you know, instructions for bots to get around the bot detection.
That is it.
tim pool
What is this?
lydia smith
It looks nothing like it.
unidentified
There she is.
Who is Tamdana Liboda?
ian crossland
What in the hell?
lydia smith
Fascinating.
Thanks, robot.
I like that.
I'll take it.
unidentified
Who is this?
tim pool
That's so weird.
ian crossland
Look at that upper left, is that like a boudoir image or something?
lydia smith
Yeah, that's what it looks like, holy cow.
ian crossland
That's like you in your spare time.
lydia smith
Hashtag never lids, seriously.
bill ottman
Luke's turn.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
Come on, there we go.
Oh cool, you can just spam click it.
Well, I did try the Luke Rutkowski.
What did we get?
We got something weird, didn't we?
bill ottman
Yeah, something weird, right?
ian crossland
Similarly, somewhat looks like me.
tim pool
That's why I think Luke, we are changed.
I wonder if I do it all as one word or like an at symbol.
ian crossland
I used to want to be famous because I wanted to give like an Oscar speech, but now I won't be famous because I want these A.I.s to be accurate.
luke rudkowski
It's gonna be like conspiracy theorists.
tim pool
What is this?
We, we, we know.
We've, uh, then is.
I, that's not a word.
ian crossland
We, we were Chang.
tim pool
We, we were Chang.
ian crossland
Weird.
tim pool
Weird Chang.
ian crossland
Is that a beanie?
tim pool
With me?
What is this?
luke rudkowski
It does look like a beanie.
tim pool
It's so weird.
I wonder what makes it think this.
ian crossland
It's like lots of way like that looks like the Arabic alphabet a little bit on the upper right one.
I mean that's just from an American you know.
luke rudkowski
Klaus Schwab eating bugs.
tim pool
Good one.
All right after this one.
I did Nancy Pelosi eating too many nachos.
Oh, I know, we should do Seamus dropping potatoes.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Seamus Coghlan potato.
lydia smith
He'll actually be a potato.
tim pool
I wonder what would happen if I typed in Freedom Tunes, though.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
All right, here we go, guys.
Nancy Pelosi eating too many nachos.
Whoa, those are large.
lydia smith
Wow, that's cool.
tim pool
Those are huge.
Those are big nachos.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Got some big nachos there, Nancy.
unidentified
She has some very huge nachos.
luke rudkowski
Cloud Schwab eating bugs.
I really want to see that one.
tim pool
Klaus Schwab eating bugs.
Let's get it.
Come on.
Error, error, error.
Because everybody wants to use it.
All right.
It's going.
Oh, there's a queue.
I see.
ian crossland
Is this just huggingface.io?
Or doc.co?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
Now you're making more people use it.
ian crossland
Yeah, I know.
luke rudkowski
It won't even load for me.
ian crossland
It says no results found.
tim pool
Oh, really?
ian crossland
I think I'm doing it wrong.
tim pool
Huggingface.co.
That's kind of a scary thought.
unidentified
That's disturbing.
tim pool
Is that from Alien?
Yeah, face huggers.
lydia smith
I don't like that.
ian crossland
Weird.
tim pool
Well, it doesn't really flash well.
lydia smith
Maybe when he was younger.
tim pool
How about, I got one, Bill Gates eating cricket.
luke rudkowski
Or man boobs.
tim pool
Man boobs.
You can fulfill all your fantasies.
bill ottman
That's just a normal picture.
ian crossland
You should do like Bill Gates workout.
tim pool
Bill Gates in gulag.
ian crossland
Bill Gates hot body.
tim pool
No thank you.
ian crossland
Does he do rifts with a six pack?
tim pool
Actually, I'm wondering if he could do that.
unidentified
That'd be interesting.
tim pool
Oh yeah, what if we did, like, Bill Gates' head on giraffe?
ian crossland
Oh, that's cool.
tim pool
Alright, Bill Gates eating crickets.
Look at this one!
ian crossland
He's so happy.
tim pool
Wow, that's so weird.
lydia smith
He looks pretty healthy, I don't see those.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, he's a lot skinnier than he is in real life.
tim pool
Yeah, and he's got gigantic bugs.
Bill Gates' head on a cricket.
lydia smith
Oh, cricket!
tim pool
No, let's do a giraffe.
Giraffes are, like, cooler.
unidentified
Yeah, be more noticeable.
tim pool
The application is too busy.
He does kind of stick his neck out.
Remember when we talked about news and stuff?
That was fun.
lydia smith
Oh, no, no, no.
This is way more fun.
ian crossland
This is the future right now.
unidentified
It's Friday.
ian crossland
We're giving you the early scoop on what's coming.
tim pool
Yeah, this probably won't work very well on iTunes.
People are going to listen to this and be like, I have no idea what they're talking about.
bill ottman
But what do you think about the, because, so OpenAI is making the argument that they should keep it closed because it's going to put artists out of business.
tim pool
It did the opposite!
unidentified
It put a giraffe's head on Bill Gates' body!
ian crossland
I think the ability for artists to capitalize and make money off of their art is a relatively new thing.
Like, only until TV and you kind of, when you could control your own dispersion of the art.
Like, before you had patrons, it was all patronage-based.
Because it's easy to do, anyone can do it.
I'm kind of shocked that people, there's an industry for it.
tim pool
You know, Ian, you were making the point about how you're going to say, show me my life, 35 years with two kids.
It's one thing we didn't actually expect when we were talking about the Metaverse.
You know, in the past couple of years, we've been talking about linking your brain into Neuralink and doing the Metaverse, that you're going to be in Lord of the Rings, you're going to be in Skyrim.
Little did we realize, what it's actually gonna be like is, it's a blank slate.
You're gonna plug in your brain, and it's gonna be a white dead space, and you're gonna go, mythical universe, orc monsters, and I'm a knight fighting my way to save the princess.
And then, just creates that universe in front of you, auto generates it, and then you live it.
It's like, the metaverse is something you're gonna create in real time.
It's like the holodeck, only, You're gonna plug your brain into it.
bill ottman
But do you think it'll completely take over your visual field?
And or it will be like happening in the background and simultaneously you'll have your current visual field but there will also be a parallel one.
tim pool
Oh that's creepy.
bill ottman
Because like you know it's like you wouldn't want to have Neuralink just wipe out your whole field of vision.
tim pool
So it's like how is it- Can your brain comprehend an expanded field of vision
is the question.
Because you'd want to be able to feel, you'd want to be able to see,
but at the same time, you'd probably want to be able to still like-
bill ottman
You don't want to black out.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't know, man.
I think the sci-fi view of things is that it will take over your mind.
Like you see the black mirror where the guy goes in the video game and bangs his buddy.
bill ottman
You know this one?
tim pool
Yes.
Yeah, so you've seen it.
It's a fighting game.
And then he plays as some like Asian dude, but then his friend plays as some chick.
And then they end up banging because for whatever reason,
the game programmed that in, I guess.
I don't know.
ian crossland
play in this game called XCOM UFO defense it's like you play as this
corporation that's defending earth against this alien invasion and there's
this enemy group of humans that are plugged into the neural net they're
called exalt and they can like see each other's visions and stuff but if you can
hack their network they go blind and they can't hear you they'll run right
past you they don't which so there's a that's a terrifying vulnerability to a
neural net is that people can shut off your perceptions like ghost in the shell
tim pool
dude in a standalone complex that anime is amazing they this hacker hacks your
brain so you can't see him.
Super cool.
That show's great.
ian crossland
I think it's gonna be both.
I think you're gonna be able to see multiple things in parallel.
Whether or not you can focus on multiple things is gonna be a learning process for the human brain.
But then you're also gonna have the ability to shut it off and go into like a video game.
Like looking at a monitor.
Like a 360 degree monitor.
luke rudkowski
I got one more ask, and I promise I'm done.
I would really love to see if the A.I.
could figure this one out.
Jeffrey Epstein's client list.
If we could solve this crime right now with this artificial intelligence, I'd be very happy.
tim pool
What if we do it and it's just like Bill Clinton, Bill Gates?
luke rudkowski
Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, who else?
Jean-Luc Brunet.
tim pool
Putin sitting on the throne of skulls.
ian crossland
Oh, had no problem doing that.
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Alright, let's do Jeffrey Epstein's client list.
tim pool
Here we go.
Can this thing see into the future?
luke rudkowski
Can we solve?
Can we be our modern-day Scooby-Doo and solve this real-life crisis?
tim pool
We solved the mystery, gang!
unidentified
How?
tim pool
We put it into an AI generator and it made a list for us.
That proves it.
luke rudkowski
Well, the information's out there, it's just being denied to everyone.
So maybe the AI has the access to the DOJ's files, and they could release the information.
tim pool
Hey, look!
Upper right, who's that?
Zoom in.
Hold on.
Can you zoom in?
Okay, here we go.
ian crossland
That looks like Bill Clinton right there.
tim pool
Here's Okunio Metua.
ian crossland
We got him!
unidentified
Here's one!
luke rudkowski
That's all the possibilities how he really looks right now after all the plastic surgery.
ian crossland
It's like when you read in a dream, that's what the letters look like.
At least for me they do.
They look like swirling shapes like that.
unidentified
That's so weird.
tim pool
You all know who you are.
ian crossland
Is our brain just a neural net?
Just trying to piece together information as unchaotically as possible?
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Jack Pasoba talked about this with the AI.
There's a website where it's like, this person is not real.
Have you ever seen that?
You load it and auto generates a fake face.
And he said, if you keep doing it, the demons start peeking in.
And we were like, what does that mean?
He's like, don't do it, don't do it.
So we start doing it.
Loading this thing and it's just showing random faces and they're like kind of off but eventually if you do too many times you start getting weird like black hole eyes like Peeking around the corners and just really creepy stuff Yeah, dude.
Super creepy.
Shaggy Rogers.
Shaggy Rogers.
There you go.
ian crossland
That beautiful man.
lydia smith
Peter Pan.
ian crossland
His eyes are so blue.
tim pool
Yeah.
Is that what Shaggy looks like in real life?
Is that what Shaggy is?
ian crossland
We could only be so lucky.
Look at that hat.
lydia smith
Backstreet boy.
ian crossland
It's like a Luigi hat.
tim pool
Velma Dinkley.
Wait, wait.
Dinkley.
That's her last name, right?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
But not gay.
unidentified
I wonder if it can handle negatives like that.
lydia smith
It won't be able to find it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know if the, do you think the A can handle like a weird phrase like that?
lydia smith
It's like, She'll be dressed like Daphne, watch.
tim pool
Dressed like Daphne?
I don't know.
That's the biggest news of the week.
I hope everybody realizes that not only is Velma gay, but they made Velma and Shaggy black.
ian crossland
Oh, I rewatched a bunch of old Scooby-Doo last night, at least a little bit.
For sure, Scooby and Shaggy are high as hell.
They constantly have the munchies.
The whole show's about them eating, like, sandwiches.
tim pool
He's eating dog food!
ian crossland
Constantly hungry, yeah.
unidentified
So, uh, look at this.
tim pool
That's kind of scary.
lydia smith
That's horrifying.
tim pool
Yeah, what is that?
lydia smith
She looks like she's 12 years old.
tim pool
She has some biceps.
I don't like that.
Let's try and do, like, what do you think we can have it generate that would be, like, serious, legitimate, and interesting?
luke rudkowski
Alex Jones on a unicorn.
tim pool
Okay, well, that's kind of weird, but I'll do it anyway.
ian crossland
Oh, Atlantis, the lost city of Atlantis.
tim pool
Let's do that.
luke rudkowski
I got that one from the chat.
ian crossland
Can you ask it questions?
What did Atlantis look like?
bill ottman
We're treating it like an oracle.
ian crossland
The lost city.
tim pool
It's literally just like a machine smashing things together.
bill ottman
And we're like, give us the answers.
tim pool
How about this, you guys, chat or super chat, what's the most profound, interesting thing we could generate that would make us go like, oh, you know?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Because we're doing silly, stupid nonsense.
ian crossland
And I wonder if typing lost city.
luke rudkowski
Someone did say Alex Jones on a unicorn in the chat.
ian crossland
I do want to see Alex across my mind.
luke rudkowski
I'm just saying.
tim pool
This is what happens when Bill comes in and he's like, there's an AI generator, it works, and we're like, alright, the whole show is now this.
luke rudkowski
Bill Gates pregnant, demons, people are saying.
Fauci Wuhan lab, people are saying.
tim pool
Anthony Fauci in Wuhan Virology Lab.
ian crossland
There we go.
lydia smith
Atlantis did.
tim pool
Atlantis looked really cool.
luke rudkowski
Atlantis was cool.
Someone wrote poop balls.
unidentified
No.
luke rudkowski
Nightmare Fuel.
Alien Life.
bill ottman
I think some of these generators don't allow NSFW as well.
ian crossland
Not safe for work.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
When I go to huggingface.co, is there another button I gotta push to go to that?
bill ottman
I don't even know.
tim pool
Google search it.
Google search stable diffusion.
bill ottman
I actually haven't used this one before.
tim pool
Anthony Fauci in Wuhan Virology Lab.
What if it just shows us like an actual photo?
lydia smith
Here he is.
tim pool
Wow, that's amazing.
bill ottman
Leaked.
lydia smith
These people do not look good.
tim pool
Look at this.
No, but here's the crazy thing is it actually just shows like Chinese people working in a lab with Anthony Fauci.
lydia smith
Look at their faces, though.
ian crossland
They're like, these are just actual pictures we got for you.
tim pool
These are real, actually.
lydia smith
Oh, look at her face.
tim pool
Well, that's what happens when you're exposed to the viruses in these labs.
Yeah, that makes sense.
All right, what other one?
Someone said Ian Shaftkam.
unidentified
I don't know what that is.
tim pool
Alex Jones on a unicorn.
People are riding a unicorn.
luke rudkowski
On a unicorn.
tim pool
All right, on.
Here we go.
People are demanding it.
luke rudkowski
I'm seeing it in the chat.
ian crossland
Dude, their stock is rising.
So is there a company behind this?
bill ottman
Yeah, I think so.
ian crossland
Is that Stability.ai?
bill ottman
Well, Stable Diffusion is a model.
Hugging Face basically embedded this model into their site.
So Hugging Face didn't make Stable Diffusion.
I think Stability Oh, awesome.
But it's open, so anyone can embed it in their site.
We're thinking of having this auto-generate avatars by default on mines.
For people who don't have avatars.
Excellent.
ian crossland
Or based on your current trending stuff that you've been involved in.
You'll change it daily or something.
tim pool
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
Here's one.
unidentified
Is that a person's head by that unicorn?
tim pool
God before humans.
God before humans.
It's gonna create like an archetypal or like a stereotypical religious image.
ian crossland
What about if you type in Satan was the good guy?
I'm gonna do that on my personal computer.
lydia smith
Yeah, see what you come up with.
tim pool
Satan was the good guy?
ian crossland
Yeah, I wonder if they can fathom that.
tim pool
It's an AI, it's like, it's, I don't know, you could probably put it, I could probably put like, orange, car, jet, yeah, look, it's, what is this?
What is this thing?
lydia smith
This is interesting.
tim pool
It says, Wattish, Obito, Obito.
bill ottman
It's Moloch.
tim pool
The Todd, Tenfieh, Mfordm.
Amla Tovane.
I'm not gonna finish reading that.
What if it's like a demonic?
lydia smith
What is the spell?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't like that.
It's like speaking demon.
luke rudkowski
So good.
tim pool
Alright, what else is someone... The Edge of the Universe.
lydia smith
Biblically Accurate Angel.
tim pool
Someone wrote... Biblically Accurate Angel?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Is it gonna be like... Scary as heck.
It's gonna be a picture of like a spaceship?
lydia smith
Something like that, maybe.
luke rudkowski
Someone asked for Alex Jones Gorilla.
tim pool
Alex Jones as a gorilla.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We can do that.
ian crossland
I wonder if it does a different render every time with the same sentence.
luke rudkowski
It does different or the best president of the United States.
Someone just said that as well.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
People are saying you can download the stable division AI and just do it on your own computer.
There you go.
Powerful, biblically accurate angel.
And it's like not biblically accurate.
lydia smith
Not at all.
tim pool
Alex Jones as a gorilla.
bill ottman
Lydia, those aren't like the angels that you've seen?
lydia smith
No, those are not like the angels I've seen.
Those ones are scary.
There's a reason they say do not be afraid when they first introduce themselves to humans.
tim pool
Alex Jones is a gorilla.
What do they look like?
They're giant serpent monsters or something?
lydia smith
No, they have like eight wings.
They have like ten faces.
They have like a million eyes.
It's really horrifying sounding.
Yes, they're not like the fluffy little fat angels you see in paintings.
ian crossland
They're like, smoke this.
unidentified
Don't panic.
lydia smith
It's Alex Jones!
tim pool
It's just a gorilla.
lydia smith
Yeah, but it sucks.
tim pool
And it only made two, huh?
bill ottman
He's under.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Ask the AI for the meaning of life.
Anderson Cooper eating sponge cake.
Well, I don't know about that one.
lydia smith
No thanks.
tim pool
Ian on the couch after the apocalypse.
lydia smith
Oh.
ian crossland
It doesn't know me yet.
tim pool
Donald Trump fighting necromorphs from dead space.
lydia smith
This is the best one so far.
tim pool
All right.
What if it like nails it perfectly?
Here we go.
Donald Trump fighting necromorphs from Dead Space.
lydia smith
I just want to see Dead Space.
That sounds cool.
ian crossland
It's a game.
They're just releasing a new Dead Space, actually.
tim pool
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
It's like creepy, right?
It's like you go on like an abandoned ship.
ian crossland
I think so, yeah.
Derelict.
bill ottman
Let's do one of Elon after.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Good one.
tim pool
Oh, look at this.
lydia smith
Look at that.
tim pool
I don't know what's going on, but you know.
lydia smith
It's awesome.
ian crossland
Wow.
unidentified
Elon Musk as the Doom guy.
ian crossland
And should.
Write a comic, have this thing auto-generate the art for you.
Start just a new genre of art, man.
tim pool
So wait, these images it generates aren't yours to use?
For real?
bill ottman
Yeah.
So when we do news stories, we can just be like... I think it depends on the specific model, but I'm pretty sure that you have the rights.
So, scroll down.
Does it say anything?
Yeah, I think it should say license.
Yeah, read it.
tim pool
Creative ML open.
bill ottman
See, every model has no rights.
It says no rights?
unidentified
Oh, look at this!
ian crossland
What is that?
tim pool
What the is that?
ian crossland
Where's the prompt here?
tim pool
Elon Musk as the doom guy.
That's creepy.
Wow.
Elon Musk buying Twitter.
lydia smith
I don't like that.
tim pool
Come on, you can do it.
There we go.
bill ottman
Wait, while we're waiting, let's actually read the license.
I want to see what you actually have the ability to do.
tim pool
Forbids you from sharing any content that violates any laws, blah, blah, blah.
They claim no rights.
You're free to use them as and are accountable for their use.
bill ottman
There you go.
ian crossland
This just spawned a genre.
This is amazing.
tim pool
So now for all of our news articles, when it's like Joe Biden does something, we'll type in and just use it.
unidentified
Pulse?
tim pool
Look at this.
unidentified
Pulse.
tim pool
Pulse.
lydia smith
Pulsels.
unidentified
Puzzles.
tim pool
Look at this!
I love how there's always like for some reason two of them like Elon's interviewing Elon.
ian crossland
They do like the persona of Elon and Elon himself.
I think I wonder if that's what the AI is doing.
tim pool
I would say that we'd use this for like Timcast thumbnails but they're so creepy.
I think it would terrify people and they wouldn't want to share them.
It's like, no, I'd prefer not to use the nightmare images for my news article.
ian crossland
I typed in Bill Gates with sexy body.
It did not.
It did not satisfy.
It's not.
I don't know if there's any.
I mean, it shows his body full on.
tim pool
It's not sexy.
But it's just crazy.
bill ottman
This is brand new.
I mean, this came out like in the last couple of months.
It's so this is just the beginning.
ian crossland
I mean, within a year, it's going to be someone's going to release like one hundred and fifty comics in like two weeks because they're going to have all this art done for them.
tim pool
Elon Musk returning to his home planet.
Come on.
Oh, I know.
I've got it.
I know what we're going to do after this one.
I hope you guys are ready.
unidentified
You're not going to reveal it.
tim pool
And then we'll grab the super chat ones, because this is the weirdest.
We get addicted to these things.
Last time we did this, the same thing happened.
It's just too funny.
Like, you want to see more!
Like, I want to know what the machine can do.
Elon Musk returning to his home planet.
unidentified
Here we go.
lydia smith
Yes, I like that.
tim pool
It's with the parachute!
Okay, here we go.
bill ottman
I like the spaceship one on the bottom right.
lydia smith
That's great.
tim pool
Jeff Bezos.
Mark Zuckerberg.
Oh, I spelled Zuckerberg really wrong.
Zuckerberg.
And, um...
What else do we got?
Then we got Bezos, we got Zuck at Bill Gates.
And Bill Gates fused into one person.
lydia smith
Why would we do that?
tim pool
It's the Triumvirate.
lydia smith
Okay, okay.
tim pool
It's the Bersuckergates.
Three-headed snake.
In the future, you'll be asking permission of Bersuckergates, the Triumvirate.
ian crossland
Dude, the admins on Hugging Face are going, what is happening right now?
They've got, like, Red Alert in their Slack channel.
They're like, yo, wake up!
unidentified
We got Hugging Face.
lydia smith
Ready?
Oh, he's a tall guy.
Okay.
tim pool
It does kind of look like Zucker and Gates somehow.
Like, it does.
bill ottman
It's Amazon factory.
tim pool
This is like the most eerily accurate image yet so far.
There's no face, but it's kind of like, oh, that's scary.
lydia smith
Didn't even try the face.
bill ottman
Yeah, so, uh, how about we actually talk about- I think there will be certain models that can generate, like, last- Ben Shapiro playing tennis?
Nightmarish stuff that will feel more- Like cartoons, they could do cartoon imagery?
Yeah, there'll be cartoon-specific stuff, yeah.
luke rudkowski
There'll be influencers that are totally AI-generated, that are not real, that will have- They tried that!
Yeah, and they will do it, if they haven't done it already.
bill ottman
Geez, I was watching gameplay- I mean, you could have a whole army of them working for you.
luke rudkowski
Exactly, or influencing social media for a particular cause.
You know, just like bots and sock puppet accounts.
ian crossland
I was watching gameplay footage last night and I watched some Japanese game and all these like anime avatars, instead of people streaming their face, it was a bunch of cartoon anime avatars over top of like filters.
So I see, yeah, building those.
tim pool
Ben Shapiro playing tennis.
ian crossland
That's a good one.
tim pool
Ben Shapiro.
Angry after losing tennis match.
unidentified
All right.
lydia smith
Why is he wearing a kilt?
That was cool.
tim pool
Was he wearing a kilt?
lydia smith
Yeah, it was like a red skirt.
ian crossland
Oh, I got a good one after this.
Jordan Peterson playing bagpipes.
I just want to see it, man.
One time.
tim pool
Just one time.
ian crossland
Just gotta see it.
lydia smith
Somebody said AI self-portrait, which would be really cool.
tim pool
What do you look like?
lydia smith
Yeah, Picasso, tell us.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
luke rudkowski
Lori Lightfoot from Beetlejuice.
lydia smith
Look at this.
tim pool
Ben Shapiro angry after losing tennis match.
Well there you go.
go.
lydia smith
Pretty accurate.
tim pool
Oh yeah, it looks very accurate.
unidentified
Image of your self.
tim pool
Dream.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think it does really well with non-people.
Like, I typed in psychedelic space mushroom.
I have a feeling it's gonna be really beautiful, bizarre.
Not freakish.
tim pool
What if we, like, ask the AI, like, your deepest desire, and it shows an image of just, like, dead humans everywhere?
We'll be like, uh, maybe we should turn it off.
luke rudkowski
It'll just start playing the Terminator.
tim pool
It's just a picture of, yeah, T- what was it, 2000?
unidentified
T-1000.
tim pool
T-1000?
Yeah.
Here we go, it's going.
Image of your dream.
What's it gonna look like?
unidentified
What?
Boring!
tim pool
It just made a Y cup dream dream?
unidentified
Pop out!
tim pool
One more, one more.
ian crossland
Artificial intelligence?
tim pool
AI self-portrait.
ian crossland
Yeah, psychedelic space mushroom, super cool.
tim pool
Psychedelic space mushroom?
ian crossland
Yeah, just weird looking colorful art.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, that's that's what it is.
ian crossland
That's nice.
lydia smith
Sure is, yeah.
ian crossland
Dude, the internet's so interesting that it can source data so quickly.
Like people's faces.
tim pool
So, but how do they do this?
Is it, like, it pre-loaded tons of images already, like, going up to a certain year, and then it... Whoa, look at that.
So, I hope... This one's okay.
This one is the creepiest.
lydia smith
Christopher Walken.
tim pool
What is that?
Welcome to the future, ladies and gentlemen.
It is creepy.
lydia smith
Don't like it.
ian crossland
Very much like a dream. All right, man. Well, you know what we should do? Let's, let's, let's, now
tim pool
that we've spent 40 minutes talking about this, that was fun. We've just done. Let's, uh, we got
to talk about this with new, uh, with, uh, Matt Walsh blog.
We have this tweet from Nuance Bro, and he says, this is how you do it, folks. All right. So
let me give you some backstory.
These, uh, Media Matters types are digging up old comments and videos from Matt Walsh when he had
like a radio show when he was younger.
They're taking them out of context and trying to smear and defame Matt Walsh, and it's just—it's stupid.
There was one video they shared where it's Matt Walsh and his friend joking about burning a book and being—and, like, being Nazis or whatever, but it was funny because they couldn't get the lighters to work, and they were like, Just wait until rednecks figure out fire!
And they're like trying to light a book on fire.
It's funny.
So in response to the smear campaign against Matt Walsh, he responded by saying this.
unidentified
So here's my official answer for the record.
Kiss my ass.
I do not apologize.
In fact, by all rights, you sick freaks should be the ones apologizing to me for lying and defaming me and doing it all because I'm trying to prevent you from sexually mutilating children.
You damned monsters.
You child-abusing psychopaths.
I wouldn't apologize to you soulless parasites if I had a gun to my head.
tim pool
Oh man, dude.
unidentified
Instead, I'd rather just tell you all to piss off.
I apologize for nothing.
I concede nothing.
I will never surrender even a single inch of ground to a pitchfork mob of degenerate morons.
You know, the secret they never say out loud is that nobody is truly cancelled unless they consent to it.
And they willingly play their assigned roles.
Well, I do not consent.
And I'm not gonna play the game.
I'm not going anywhere.
tim pool
That was absolutely amazing, and that's how it's done.
That's how you do it, folks, says NuanceBro, and that's it right there.
ian crossland
I don't like the name-calling, though.
I like Matt a lot, but calling people, like, insults is just inflaming.
I think it's just inflaming.
tim pool
If he really wants to lower tension, I mean, if he wants to... These are people who have intentionally taken audio from him out of context, and then lied about him to try and cause damage to his work when he's trying to help kids.
ian crossland
When he said that I'm trying to stop you from mutilating children, I get that, because he is.
But when he calls them, like, gratuitously morons and things like that, I don't know.
tim pool
I can understand not wanting to insult someone in a general context of a political argument, but this is different.
These are people who are acting outside the bounds of morality and ethics.
They are seeking to manipulate and lie to people for political power.
luke rudkowski
What would you say?
Yeah, what would you say?
What would be your response?
So you're Matt Walsh.
You're remaking this video.
Go.
ian crossland
I would have taken one of the people.
luke rudkowski
No, no, no.
Go.
You're on right now.
ian crossland
I'd be talking to an individual.
I would say their name and directly talk to them as if they were sitting in front of me.
And tell them what I would tell them if they were sitting here.
tim pool
They're organizations.
ian crossland
Well, I would pick a person and talk right to that person.
You should make videos and talk to Joe Biden.
tim pool
An organization published a video.
Who do you respond to?
ian crossland
The CEO.
tim pool
Okay, there you go.
ian crossland
Okay, so what do you say?
Well, I mean, Mr. Poopypants, first you gotta figure out who said it.
I mean if it's what is it like what who's the organization I don't know the specifics but I would talk to an individual that's a big part of it is you name them you talk to them as if they're there and listen and they hear that and they're like okay he's actually talking to me now I understand there was someone who came to one of our events And lied.
tim pool
And a leftist, smear merchant, and lied.
And so I politely responded on Twitter with like, hey, this thing you're saying didn't actually happen, I hope we can resolve this.
And they responded with something like, I hope a bird craps on your face.
And so I went, okay, I guess.
I was at an event, a political event, and the person who founded this organization was on stage.
And so I asked, hey, you say that your organization is engaged in truth-telling and fact-checking.
When one of your reporters posted verifiably false statements about me, and I asked for a correction politely, they said they wished a burbo crap on my face, and he says, whatever, ignored me, and walked off.
ian crossland
Then you gotta go to the individual that said they want the crap on your face.
I did.
This is why people like what Matt Walsh did.
That's how you do it. You confront people and they love the drama. The crowd loves the drama too.
tim pool
This is why people like what Matt Walsh did.
Because the problem we face in the culture war is that whatever this faction is constantly tries to be nice.
ian crossland
No, I would not be nice to the person.
I would directly confront them.
But them, an individual, that's how you get through them.
tim pool
This is my point.
They are burning down pregnancy centers, they're firebombing them, and then lying about what the pregnancy centers do.
They are lying about Matt Walsh, and for the longest time you get people like, you know, with all due respect, when we had, um...
Why am I forgetting it?
Rick Santorum on the show, and he's like, no, no, no, we gotta play by the rules, play by the rules, and I'm like, yo, they're burning down buildings, and we're not even saying, we're saying the law enforcement should be dealing with it, but at the very least, we don't just say, I'm so sorry, let's be nice to them.
We say these are evil, awful people who are burning down buildings.
What they were trying to do with Matt Walsh was accuse him of being a child abuser because of out-of-context comments.
From 15 years ago.
ian crossland
Who is it?
Is it just text comments that were insulting?
tim pool
He was on a radio show and he said something about... He said something like, throughout history, women got pregnant at much younger ages.
And now, in today's day and age, they're saying it's a mistake if women do, but that's only because we decided that.
I don't know the full context.
I just know that they're taking these things out of context, which is why he said, outright, you are lying to defame me, and I will not apologize to you for it.
So, look.
We constantly have people saying, like, hey, why don't we invite this person to come on the show?
Question, how come none of the prominent leftists will come on the show and sit down and have a conversation?
Some will, but they tend to have smaller followings.
They're trying to establish themselves.
But for the most part, they don't.
And then what happens when we do have some of these people on?
They smack the microphone and freak out and get angry.
ian crossland
Yeah, I make videos to those people directly with their name and I look at the camera while I'm talking to them and you can humiliate them to their face via video and everyone gets to watch.
tim pool
It doesn't do anything.
ian crossland
Oh, it does a lot.
I used to do it in the, I mean, it's pretty aggro, but you can definitely shake someone by doing that.
tim pool
So you have people who make videos and comment on that all day and night.
Matt Walsh came out and said, he smacked him back.
He made it personal.
And people are happy that he did because people are sick.
This is why people voted for Trump.
Because for the longest time, you get people... Again, I appreciate Rick Santorum coming on, but his attitude of being very deferential and saying, we're the ones who are going to play by the rules.
It's like, okay, if you're playing a game Monopoly, and the person sitting across the table is literally cheating in front of you, and you're like, well...
You're cheating, and they go, and?
Are you gonna keep playing?
I guess.
We better play by the rules.
Okay, they're not, but you sit there anyway?
It makes no sense.
So this is where he's finally saying, this is the sentiment that people have been feeling for a long time.
I don't care anymore.
You don't matter to me.
You people are awful.
You are sick.
They killed people in the summer of love.
They burned down buildings.
What they're doing to kids, it's just all abhorrent.
And I'm actually, I'm very, very happy today.
That when I see this stuff, I know that I don't have to fear them.
And Matt Walsh doing this, providing this statement saying, I would not apologize to you parasites if there was a gun to my head, showing how successful that is.
That he can do that.
That we don't have to bend the knee to a psychopathic cult.
It is freeing.
We're not trying to be mean, we're trying to be nice, we're trying to solve problems, and we're trying to find a path forward.
And what do we get instead?
Bricks through the window, lies, manipulations, and a refusal to have a conversation.
They stopped Ben Shapiro from going to events and speaking.
They stopped Ann Coulter from doing it.
They spray-painted a death threat to liberals when Milo Yiannopoulos tried to speak at an event.
Where are the conservatives burning down universities?
Not happening.
So at a certain point, there is a group of people saying, you know what?
We don't want what they're doing.
We don't want violence.
We don't want retaliation.
But you don't matter to us anymore at all.
ian crossland
I don't know.
Matt definitely seems concerned.
If they didn't matter to him, he wouldn't have responded.
lydia smith
So Matt doesn't talk about this very often, but I am sure that his entire family, all six of his children, two of them unborn, and his poor wife are undoubtedly under constant threat from these absolute soulless monsters.
These are people who will stop at nothing.
They will come to your house, they will break your windows, they will insult you.
If you go to try to defend yourself, they will get You arrested, they will call the cops on you.
They will use the state against you.
They arrested something like 11 old pro-life protesters just for the crime of being at a pro-life protest.
They will use everything in the books.
Their game is power.
They talk about it all the time because it's what they're going for.
And they accuse the right of wanting it because it's what they want more than anything else.
And when they have power, they will not give you anything back.
They don't care about your freedom of speech.
tim pool
And all he did was insult them.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
There was a riot on January 20th, 2017, where... I mean, you were there, right, Luke?
We were both... Yeah, that's right.
I got arrested.
You got away.
luke rudkowski
Yep.
There's a huge line of riot cops.
I pushed right through them and got pepper sprayed right in the face.
tim pool
They were forming a line and so I flanked left to try and get away out of the rioters.
Luke went forward and then the cops boxed in the left.
And then all the rioters surrounded me.
But I ended up getting out because I had a press credential.
These people, not only did they have the charges dropped after they were smashing windows and setting fire to vehicles, they destroyed the livelihood of an immigrant who had leased a limo to run a company as a driver.
They set his limo on fire.
The cops were unable to do anything about it.
These people got arrested.
And then, after they were released and the charges were dropped, they filed a lawsuit against the city and won, and the city paid them money.
And that's what we've been dealing with for, what, a decade now?
So, for the longest time, you don't see... There is a 0% probability that Matt Walsh's followers storm a university to shut down these speakers.
And that's actually really funny, because Matt says, I'm trying to stop you from harming kids, and they won't even protest, you know, to a certain degree.
Obviously there are people that are going out and protesting.
What I'm saying is, on the scale that the left is engaged in this level of violence, the right goes nowhere near.
And all we're getting is Matt Walsh being like, you are sick degenerates.
And you are saying like, oh that's bad, he shouldn't do that.
Okay, well I can certainly understand why you'd feel that way, but you should understand why people are like, They burn down a building, and we've insulted them, and you're mad at that wolf.
ian crossland
If you want to disperse a mob, you've got to shake one individual up, psychologically.
Yelling expletives at the crowd doesn't fix the problem, which is the mob is insane.
tim pool
And this is the point.
ian crossland
You take one of them, you make an example out of them by basically humiliating them in front of the crowd, and the crowd's like, oh, I don't want to be associated.
tim pool
When they refuse to come on these shows and have conversations?
ian crossland
No, no, you make an internet video directly to you.
Oh, come on.
bill ottman
Yeah, but Ian, you're sort of saying, like, don't be mean, but then be mean.
ian crossland
I'm not saying don't be mean.
tim pool
It's not just that, it's like you're saying scream into the wind.
ian crossland
No, you make an internet video.
You, especially you right now, you make an internet video talking to someone like Joe Biden.
They don't watch the videos.
You don't know that, dude.
tim pool
I do know it.
ian crossland
If someone hears their name on the internet, they're going to that video.
tim pool
What they do, and this is like, the perfect example is the Young Turks, instead of actually watching the segment, or maybe they do, they just watch a clip from some propaganda channel, or, at the very least, they watch it and then lie about it.
Like, every single time the Young Turks has done a segment about something I've said, they've lied about what the context of the conversation was.
For example, we had a conversation recently where I said something to the effect of, I'm sure most women Are happy to have careers and engage in work.
I'm sure some of them, however, probably end up regretting it, wishing they had families.
And what they did was they took that, twisted it, and claimed I thought I was saying something like, women just want to be wives and have babies, which is not what I said.
bill ottman
Didn't Cenk, like, approach you one time?
tim pool
Screaming at me in lunacy.
They made a smear piece about Dave Rubin, and they put my name front and center for some reason, and I saw a jank at Politicon, I was like, hey man, how's it going?
I was trying to get in touch with you, I've been messaging you, you didn't respond, but you guys put up a video that, like, it was about Dave Rubin or something, but my name was on it, so I was just hoping I could ask you, like, just in the future not to do that, and then he just started screaming.
You're a Trump supporter!"
And this was in like 2017 or something.
Just started screaming at me.
I don't even remember what he was saying at the time.
And I was like, Why are you yelling at me?
And then a bunch of journalists ran up and started filming.
And they're like, What happened?
I'm like, I have no idea!
I was like, Dude, went nuts, started screaming at me.
These people have lost their minds, dude.
I've known Cenk for a long time.
I remember seeing him at VidCon and being like, hey, how's it going?
I've been in his show a couple times.
And then one day I go up to him and I'm like, hey, you guys did like, they were making fun of Dave Rubin or something.
And they used a report that had Tim Pool in their thumbnail, like right in the middle.
And I messaged Jake, I was like, hey man, I was like, you made a video and it's got my name on it, but it's about Dave Rubin, I'm just, you know, he ignored me.
I messaged Anna, who I also have known for a long time, and they ignored me.
And then, now they just make weird smear pieces.
Like, there's no point in trying to have a conversation with people who will never come and have a conversation.
ian crossland
Well, I think there's a point in trying.
And eventually, you know, you can get through it.
Just because you guys are talking, like right now what's happening is you're talking past each other, you talk about them, they talk about you.
Bro, I privately messaged them, But I'm talking about internet video communication.
There used to be video responses on YouTube.
The whole point was you make a video to someone, then they answer you back and talk to you.
There's communication.
People get to listen and watch.
Then they start to mimic the behavior.
bill ottman
Yeah, why do you think YouTube removed video responses?
ian crossland
Because Google bought it and they don't understand social networking.
bill ottman
That's how Ian and I first met.
I did a video response to Ian.
That's how we first met.
tim pool
Look, man.
You know, knowing these people for like a decade, and then one day Ian's screaming in my face in public, and my response to that is still consistently to politely invite him for a conversation.
ian crossland
You said Ian.
Cenk?
unidentified
Cenk.
tim pool
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
ian crossland
I wouldn't do that to you, baby!
Unless you're like far away and I need you to hear me.
luke rudkowski
That'll be in five years.
tim pool
Knowing this guy for as long as I have, having polite conversations, appearing on his show on more than one occasion, then one day, abruptly and for no reason, he starts screaming in my face in public.
I made a video about it.
I'm like, I have no idea what happened.
I have no idea why he's screaming at me.
I'm not Alex Jones.
I don't have any beef with him.
I've never argued with him before.
I've never had a negative word about him.
He just started screaming at me in public.
Cameras everywhere.
They're filming it.
I'm like, what's happening?
I was like, why are you yelling at me?
And then, even after that, I still politely say, we'd love to have you on the show at any time.
We'll cover all costs.
bill ottman
That's a great position.
tim pool
But they never, they will never do it.
Never.
Because they are not genuine people.
This is why when Matt Walsh says, you are degenerate morons, people are cheering for it.
Because for too long, we have tried to politely just be like, can we please talk and resolve this?
And they say, no!
We're gonna burn your city down.
We're gonna beat your elderly.
We're gonna try and kill Kyle Rittenhouse.
ian crossland
You're talking about a lot of different people, though.
tim pool
I'm talking about all of these people aligned with this movement, this cult, this ideology, for whatever reason, and there's various subcultures within it.
But for some reason, all of them refuse to have a conversation.
A small handful will have a conversation.
Jimmy Dore, who's basically an outright socialist, is called far-right.
It's nonsensical cult meaninglessness.
bill ottman
I wonder if he's changed, because he actually spat in Alex's face on one interview.
tim pool
We were there!
bill ottman
Have they resolved that?
That was absurd.
tim pool
And he was there with Change.
bill ottman
Oh, that was the same event?
tim pool
Yes.
The Young Turks were doing this sit-down at the RNC, right?
luke rudkowski
The RNC in Cleveland.
tim pool
And Alex came up laughing and talking to them while they were doing their thing and they got mad. Jimmy spit on Alex.
We were standing right there. It was crazy.
luke rudkowski
They were like, what the hell's going on here?
tim pool
So look, I can understand.
bill ottman
But now Jimmy actually supports free speech, which is great.
Well, he's always supported free speech.
Yeah, but like, that seems like obscene behavior.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
Look, I think what Jimmy did in that context was wrong.
But I think there's a difference between someone coming and interrupting your live shot so you're having a personal beef with them and whether or not you support free speech.
Like, I don't think it's inherently free speech that someone walks up to you during your show and starts trying to interrupt it.
You know what I mean?
That's a different question.
But sure, Jimmy should not have got baited and spat him or whatever.
I think Jimmy has consistently called out the establishment, the Democrats, and what he encounters is all of a sudden people are blindly marching in lockstep behind them.
And he's like, since when?
Since when have we supported this machine, this corporate Democrat machine?
And they're like, you're right wing.
He's like, what?
bill ottman
I did see a segment of Ana and Cenk, you know, pushing back against the defund the police.
So it's not all one group.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
You know, this is funny though.
You're right.
They recently, and I gave him credit for it, came out saying defund the place is stupid, but you know, they very heavily supported it.
bill ottman
Yeah, there were tweets.
I saw certain tweets.
tim pool
Right.
A bunch of tweets came out and so people were like, they supported this.
Now look.
Change your mind.
Exactly.
And that's why I'm like, good on them.
But the issue is, it's politically expedient.
Defund the police has become unpopular.
They're following the polls.
That's it.
If anything, I have all the reason in the world to just keep doubling down and being like, Trump's the best, Trump's the best.
Instead, I'm like, I don't know, man.
I think Ron DeSantis, maybe.
bill ottman
Why is Trump saying death penalty for drug dealers?
That is insane.
tim pool
Just don't.
We can break this down.
First, yeah, I disagree with the death penalty outright.
Second, however, Most people interpret that as specifically having to do with traffickers of like heroin and opioids and things like that.
bill ottman
Or if you're lacing stuff with fentanyl.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
Not like someone slinging pot.
And the other argument is that when it comes to those things, these people have killed dozens, hundreds, or more.
bill ottman
So... But be specific.
Like, don't make statements like that.
You have to be targeted in your language.
tim pool
No, and that's Trump.
bill ottman
Yeah.
That's right.
tim pool
So I, that's why, you know, when I look at, uh, there's, there's, there's some tweets right now.
Someone tweeted at me, Will Chamberlain.
It was, it was an amazing show we had here with a handful of people.
And, you know, Will Chamberlain said something like he actually thinks the Fed is good.
And then everyone else goes like, ah, no, like, it's like the most shockingly offensive thing you can say to anybody in this room.
But Will's great.
We love having Will on the show, even though we completely disagree on that.
And then we have Ilad Eliyahu, who reports for Timcast, and he's talking about how he supports military intervention because he wants a monopolar world with the U.S.
at charge.
And we got really into it.
I was yelling.
I had to apologize.
But we think he's fantastic.
We disagreed to the point where we were, like, really angry.
And I was like, I was pissed.
Um, but I think he's, I think he does an amazing job, and I think, you know, we're glad to have those conversations.
But there's that group of people that claim to be the left.
They will not come on, they will not talk, and for some reason, their opinions flow with the wind, is however the polls are suggesting.
It's amazing.
luke rudkowski
And whatever is the popular group thing.
I mean, we even disagree.
We have debates on this show, and Iron sharpens Iron.
It's great to have those conversations.
It's great to challenge yourself.
It's great to actually question things instead of just like, hey, this is what people want me to say.
I'm just going to say it because I want to be liked.
And that's where a lot of these people come from.
This is kind of group herd sheep mentality.
And this is why you never bend the knee to the pitchfork mob.
This is why you never acquiesce to what everyone in the status quo is going along with, because if you're doing that, you're just degressing yourself.
When we should be challenging ourselves, we should be questioning ourselves.
We should be, of course, always going up to authority and saying, not today, you SOB, because you deserve some accountability.
Some transparency and you deserve to be questioned outright with what you're doing with the power that you have power should always be challenged.
These people are just trying to get as much as they can for themselves and and truly screwing everyone and giving a disservice not only to their audience but also to themselves by doing this.
So, question everything.
And this is why I liked what I saw with Matt Walsh, because it comes from that energy.
Like, I'm not going to do what you tell me to do.
I'm not going to say 2 plus 2 equals 5.
And this is why a lot of people seeing this from Matt Walsh today, I don't agree with everything that Matt has to say or think.
But when he came out with this message, it was a resounding F you to anyone in the establishment, anyone trying to control him.
And that's something that I want to see more of.
bill ottman
I think the never apologize idea is generally true, assuming, like, never apologize, you know, for your principles.
Never go back against your principles.
But the idea of never apologizing is a blank statement, it makes no sense.
Like, you should apologize when you want to apologize, and your core principles tell you that that's the appropriate thing to do.
tim pool
I loved when he was just like, by all accounts, you should be apologizing to me!
bill ottman
So he acknowledges that apologies are needed sometimes, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that was good.
Yeah, you know what, man?
I think he hit a home run, and more to the point is, you have people who go on Twitter who lie, trying to get people fired from their jobs.
This was one of those circumstances.
A lot of people have I don't think it's a home run, but I do think he bunted with a guy on third who made it home and scored a run, but he got thrown out at first.
is not going to fire Matt Walsh over this. They're going to be laughing about it. And he gets the
opportunity to come out and say this. By doing so, it is a stake in the heart of the cancel culture
ian crossland
mob. I don't think it's a home run, but I do think he bunted with a guy on third who made it home
and scored a run, but he got thrown out at first. So, you know, they're still down by one run.
tim pool
Very specific rebuttal analogy.
ian crossland
Nice move.
Maybe you could have got there faster, but I think he's, you know... It was anger.
It was an angry response, and anger is a very dangerous tool.
tim pool
I'll accept that with another rebuttal analogy, that Matt Walsh is paving the way for more people to stand up against cancel culture, and if that means the runner on third made it home because of what he did, then I agree with you.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's doing a lot of good.
And not everything has to be all good or all bad.
I think that the fact that he's bringing attention to child mutilation of any kind is important.
Like, if you're gonna get a kid's, a 13-year-old's boobs cut off and stitched up, like, yo, we gotta really consider what that means as a culture.
bill ottman
Yeah, and he is clearly trying to have the conversation with people he disagrees with.
I mean, that's what his whole movie was doing.
He was trying to find people to have, you know, conversations and debate the issue.
So he wants to have the debate and he's willing to talk to anybody.
tim pool
His delivery is the best.
It's very just dry and very calm.
lydia smith
He's so dry.
tim pool
I love when they said that, when he was talking with the Little Mermaid, and he said that she should have a translucent face and look like a nightmare skeleton floating around the depths or whatever.
And they were like, LGBT Nation or whatever wrote that he was having a meltdown.
And I'm just like, anybody who's ever watched Matt Walsh knows that that's not possible.
His meltdown is just him going like this.
bill ottman
That was a meltdown, that's his version.
tim pool
It's him being like, I will not apologize to you.
You morons.
It's not particularly animated.
bill ottman
You'll have to rip my heart from my body.
tim pool
All right, we're going to go to Super Chats.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com because your membership keeps all of our journalists employed, keeps our shows up and running, and we're hearing a lot of really great things about the Cast Castle vlog.
People are really, really loving it.
Ian did an excellent job.
ian crossland
Oh, shout out to Wes Leslie Goebel and Chris Poole for producing and writing that thing.
And you too, as an executive producer.
I love the direction that it's going.
tim pool
It's ridiculous, fun nonsense.
But you know, it is still early.
So you were mentioning the other day, like you're trying to get sound quality improvements and all that stuff.
ian crossland
You shoot on different days, so you have different lighting schemes.
So when you have like a portable lighting scheme, and sometimes we shoot at different times of day, so we'll get different lighting outside.
You can balance that stuff out in post.
Or with the right technology sometimes.
tim pool
We have a special guest coming next week to film, and I'm just so excited for the plotline of this.
I hope it's executed right, because the jokes, as they've been written, are some of the funniest and most offensive things ever.
It's gonna be amazing.
Maybe it's not the most offensive thing ever.
It's just like, it's designed to be, you know, I don't know, edgy, I guess?
ian crossland
Yeah, I wanna talk about edgy stuff in a compelling way that grandmas and seven-year-olds can enjoy.
tim pool
I don't know about that.
ian crossland
That's my goal.
Not this one.
Bring levity to these intense conversations so everyone can have them.
tim pool
Let's grab some super chats.
We got Frank Rizzo.
He says, Hey Tim and crew, longtime listener and member, you should try to figure out how to broadcast on shortwave radio.
The world will hear your show.
Is that like local radio stations and stuff?
unidentified
Is it?
bill ottman
I think you can just get a device here.
luke rudkowski
I think it's like pirate radio, no?
tim pool
I don't know about doing anything like that.
ian crossland
You gotta get like an FCC bandwidth, like you gotta buy an area on the bandwidth, I know.
bill ottman
It's probably worth it.
Get on AM.
ian crossland
Shortwave.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, AM would be great.
bill ottman
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, enlighten me with Ronnie.
I can't read the last part.
Podcast?
So say, Tim, have a great chat.
I've been up too late when you are live.
First ever super chat.
Really do appreciate that super chat.
Scroats McGoats says it's my birthday and I have no desire to celebrate.
Feels like I'm watching the apocalypse play out right before my eyes.
Well, one way to get ahead of all this.
Bill, you gotta take a lot of money, invest in a company that makes pods.
and cricket food. They are telling you these things. So it's just like, you know, look at
the beginning of the pandemic, Trump's like, we're gonna get a vaccine. If you invested in
Moderna at that point, bought Moderna stock jumped like what 400% or something. Some ridiculous number
unidentified
don't feed the beast. Voting with your dollars.
There's ten ethical and- So you're getting, what is that, a one to five?
luke rudkowski
So you're basically eating corn and soy.
ian crossland
Someone, a cricket farmer contacted me and said that it requires 1,500 pounds of corn
and soy to feed 250 pounds of crickets.
So you're getting, what is that, a one to five?
bill ottman
So you're basically eating corn and soy.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, essentially.
ian crossland
Shocking.
11%.
luke rudkowski
And for the person who just had their birthday, happy birthday, try to enjoy the little things in life and not try to be overwhelmed by the world's burdens and enjoy the friends, the family, the people you have around you.
tim pool
I'm just saying, you know.
luke rudkowski
No!
Don't listen to him.
Don't do that.
ian crossland
It's got to be open source, these pods, because they're gonna be tracking your biometrics.
unidentified
All right, all right, we'll try and grab some more superchats.
tim pool
Topher Studio says, I've been subscribed to Luke for over a year, but I won't watch his videos because of how clickbait the thumbnails are.
It's not 2016.
Make them serious, not silly clickbait.
Love you, though.
luke rudkowski
You don't tell me what to do.
I'm gonna do what I want.
I'm gonna make them more clickbaity.
I'm gonna use that AI tool right now and even make them worse off than you thought, Bob.
tim pool
Daryl Lines says, YouTube shenanigans again.
Had to reload the stream three times to get audio to load.
Yep.
Funny how that works.
Quispy Joe says, shaking my head, YouTube not notifying me again.
I have video proof, where do I send the link?
I think it was shadowband at timcast.com?
I'll have to double check before we come back for next week, because we were like, we told people if they had evidence of this to send it to us, we're going to go through it.
Because if someone was suggesting if we can show a pattern of behavior, then there's a detriment.
YouTube's not providing, you know, the proper leaser.
bill ottman
Well, at this point, because I heard you on your other stream, it's like, is it Shadowband or Shadowband?
You should just do both, so.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, just copy and paste.
Shadowband, Shadowbands, Shadowband.
lydia smith
There you go.
unidentified
There we go.
ian crossland
Shadowsband.
lydia smith
Shadowsband.
No, not that.
tim pool
Shadowsband.
All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, after your sad AF 4PM, I stopped at Weiss.
Clerk's eyes screamed out sadness.
Me, thanks, hope you are well.
Him, I'm here.
Me, at least you're alive.
Breathing.
Him, unfortunately, I felt bad for him.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
What was your segment about?
tim pool
23-year-old was euthanized in Belgium for being depressed.
And it was like she survived a terror attack and so she said she had PTSD and wanted to die.
And so they're like, okay.
And then the family sat around her as they gave her the medication and she smiled and then died.
And that's what nightmares are made of.
ian crossland
Has she been physically injured other than just the trauma?
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
She was on like 10 different medications.
ian crossland
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's just like, well, that's probably what's breaking her brain.
luke rudkowski
Maybe that's the problem.
Maybe, you know, all the medical interventions we have making the problems worse statistically aren't helping.
ian crossland
Yeah, maybe ignoring the problem for so long didn't actually solve it.
luke rudkowski
Maybe not focusing on health or diet or exercise or daily activity has mattered.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Pinochet's helicopter tour says, I've got two words for you.
Let's go, Brandon.
That's a good one.
unidentified
Good work.
tim pool
What do we got here?
ian crossland
Oh, where are we at?
tim pool
Darrell Lyons says, Biden saved us from World War III just like he brought down gas prices.
Yeah.
Everybody is saying this.
I know Don Diego says, guys, guys, I think he was saying Maiden America.
Like, like a maiden, you know?
Like, it was two words.
That's what PolitiFact is gonna do.
It's gonna be like, he did say two words.
Maiden America.
bill ottman
It was a reference to... Do AI art for Maiden, for the Maiden America.
See what she looks like.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
So what is this?
You can download the program to your own computer?
Someone was saying that.
bill ottman
So there's probably different apps that can run the engine.
tim pool
Because then you don't got to worry about the queue or whatever.
You can just, yeah.
And like, I'd be interested in trying to generate images for thumbnails.
Like if you can get one that's not scary or creepy, unless you wanted it to be.
Oh, we should totally use that for Shane's new show.
Shane Cashman.
Yeah, man.
lydia smith
Great idea.
tim pool
Because it naturally just makes everything look horrifying and nightmarish.
lydia smith
Even normal stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, even normal stuff.
So if there's like a story about an apple, it'll make it look creepy.
There you go.
bill ottman
Yo, can we answer a few Superminds?
ian crossland
Made in Americas.
tim pool
Oh, you want to answer some?
Yeah, I mean, if you want to shout out.
bill ottman
Yeah, so guys, we just launched this new product.
It's called Supermind.
It's like Superchat.
It's half the fees.
So, you know, more of your money is going to Tim, the creator.
You basically can go to minds.com slash timcast, click the supermind button, ask him a question, and you don't pay unless he answers.
So it's basically an offer, and if he answers he can answer it on stream, he can answer it during the week, you can do all these different types of responses.
So there's some in there, it'd be cool to Well, I'll jump over in a second.
tim pool
So here's the thing, with superchats, people have already paid, and they have comments, and we try to read as many as we can.
With superminds, you offer to pay, and if we don't read it, you don't pay.
There's a balance I try to do, because some people are like, why won't Tim read the big superchat, and I'm like...
I do appreciate the big superchats.
I do want to read as many as I can, but I also don't want people who can't afford to send tons of money to be cut out.
And so we try to just read what we can.
bill ottman
Yeah, small ones are great.
And the last thing I would say is that like for people, you know, that's kind of the bad part about superchats.
You don't necessarily get a response.
So people who, you know, money is tight these days.
So to know that you're going to get a response from a creator is a big deal.
tim pool
Alright, Falcon Leisure says, Tim, this weekend you need to watch the movie Threads on YouTube.
It is a British-made movie about what the aftermath of a nuclear war would be like.
There's also a show on the BBC I've not yet watched called Years and Years, I think it's called?
Have you heard of this?
bill ottman
No.
tim pool
And it's like a show that was meant to, I guess, mock Trump or something.
And it's like about a populist who wins and then starts advocating for immigrant genocide or something like that.
I don't know.
I gotta watch it, but, you know, something that's probably cringe, but I'm interested in watching.
Threads, though, that sounds pretty cool.
ian crossland
1984 TV show.
Is that what it is?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Clef the Misfit says, think what happened to Dorsey with Twitter is like what happened to Trump in office.
Staffed the organization with snakes and ideologues who hampered him instead of helped him.
Perhaps, but Dorsey left Twitter and then came back.
Was it Dick Costolo was the CEO for a while?
And then, what did he do?
He wrote Silicon Valley or something?
bill ottman
Oh, is that a book?
tim pool
No, no, the TV show on HBO.
bill ottman
Oh, no.
Costolo wrote that?
tim pool
Yeah, I think he was involved in that.
bill ottman
I thought they, like, judged... Right, right, right.
tim pool
And I'm pretty sure... And Costolo?
Really?
Well, you want to look it up?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He's got some credit in there, doesn't he?
bill ottman
Yeah, they probably had all kinds of consultants from the Valley.
ian crossland
But I think he had, like, a significant... Writing for Silicon Valley.
I don't know what he did exactly.
unidentified
Good for him.
tim pool
Writing for the show.
ian crossland
Oh, he's an ex-comedian.
I didn't know that.
tim pool
And then he became the CEO of Twitter.
bill ottman
It is an accurate show, to be honest.
ian crossland
Dick Costolo.
Improv comic in Chicago.
tim pool
All right.
Louis Aguilar says, Hi Lids, I'm here for the scandalous announcement.
I wish you good things on your new production.
lydia smith
I don't think that I have a super scandalous announcement.
I will just say goodbye like I always do for the last time, which is a little bit sad, but life goes on and we'll be good.
Yeah.
ian crossland
This is it, this is your last show?
lydia smith
That's right, it's my last show.
ian crossland
Well, last show here.
lydia smith
Last show here.
ian crossland
You're actually, you have a new show, don't you, on Saturday mornings?
lydia smith
Um, I don't have anything set in stone.
We're still figuring it out, but we're gonna be trying to make a difference in the culture as we go forward, and you guys can check it out later.
ian crossland
Right on.
bill ottman
Boom.
tim pool
Aaron Tamiki says, Bye, Linda.
I'm gonna miss you on the show.
Since you are leaving, what was your favorite moment from the show, and who was your favorite guest?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, my favorite guest was definitely Ed Calderon.
He's fantastic.
He used to be a cop down in Tijuana and he has crazy stories.
If you guys aren't familiar with him, you should check out Ed's manifesto on Instagram.
My favorite moment from the show that had me paralyzed was probably when R.A.
smacked the microphone.
That was scary for me.
I was like, what is happening?
What's going to happen next?
So, yeah.
Probably a lot of people have in common, but it's really interesting moments like that.
tim pool
He hung out for a little bit afterwards.
We invited him back.
ian crossland
Yeah, he felt bad about it afterwards.
tim pool
Yeah, he apologized.
We hugged it out.
That's cool.
luke rudkowski
You're welcome.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
Okay, Luke.
ian crossland
Yeah, Luke had him invite him on.
Alright.
tim pool
What about Immortal Technique?
He'd be cool to have on, right?
luke rudkowski
I'll ask him.
I think he'll be great.
tim pool
But we probably have political disagreements, right?
luke rudkowski
Probably.
But it'll be great to talk it out.
tim pool
What about him and Alex Jones?
luke rudkowski
They had a conversation before.
So they met together and they had a video interview.
I think, you know, I know we need to do.
tim pool
We need to have this table set up with a person from each of the political quadrants on the political compass.
luke rudkowski
There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Good idea. I have like the themed rooms with each color.
unidentified
They have the same color. Well, just like we'll put plate.
luke rudkowski
We'll put mats of the colors. Well, we did. Red. We did our test. Right. And we're like almost
opposite each other on the bottom left.
tim pool
Center Libertarian with Luke on the right quadrant. Yeah.
One point and me on the left quadrant.
luke rudkowski
So we would be in that same kind of position, and Ian would be, where would you be?
I'm further left.
tim pool
I'm not.
ian crossland
I kind of play that role, and I do have a kind of an authoritarian bent.
luke rudkowski
So yeah, you're there, and then we need like a super commie.
ian crossland
I mean, we could get real authoritarians on the show, that'd be interesting.
I'm pretty far left relative to you guys.
I was like halfway to the left and halfway to the bottom.
bill ottman
All right.
ian crossland
Halfway through that quadrant.
tim pool
How do I... I want to answer a supermind.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But I need to know... I don't have the URL to the stream.
bill ottman
No, just type in answered on stream as a reply.
tim pool
Answered on episode.
What are we?
lydia smith
632?
bill ottman
632.
Bam.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
In this supermind, this is from... Oh, I can't see the name of the user right now.
Raymundo, why do you think Elon has suddenly decided to go through with a Twitter deal at the original offer price after months of seemingly trying to get out of it?
Do you think the deal goes through and will Twitter actually change?
So I have talked about this before.
I think, um...
He did try to negotiate a price down.
We were asking this before, like, why didn't he try to get a cheaper deal?
He did.
He tried getting 30% off.
They said no.
He tried saying, okay, what about 10?
They said no.
And then he finally said, okay, fine, we'll do it.
My attitude is I think there's an element of he's gonna lose in court.
I think there's also an element of when he said no to World War III and the bots bombarded his poll and favored war, he was probably just like, Okay, I have to do this.
You know, net worth be damned.
bill ottman
But it was a reasonable argument that the bots are a high percentage of Twitter and also the whistleblower came out and it seems like nothing's really coming of the whistleblower saying that he was trying to get the bots taken care of and... Who's the whistleblower?
They're head of security.
Twitter's head of security came out and said that there's just all of these unacceptable practices at the company.
ian crossland
He'd be a great guest on this show.
bill ottman
He would be a great guest.
ian crossland
Do you know what his name is off the bottom?
bill ottman
If you just look up Twitter Whistleblower, I forget his name.
unidentified
Alright.
ian crossland
Did we confirm the supermine?
Did the payment go through?
tim pool
Oh, I don't know.
bill ottman
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah, it went through.
unidentified
That's awesome.
tim pool
There's a bunch and they're like, it's a lot of money.
It's like $120, $250.
bill ottman
We blew it up earlier to get people to roll right on.
tim pool
So alright, here we got one.
Max Reddick with the Super Chat.
unidentified
He says, Tim, your impersonation of Nancy Pelosi is hilarious.
Please keep doing this also.
We miss Seamus.
Is she coming back?
tim pool
At some point, I imagine.
lydia smith
I hope so.
luke rudkowski
Seamus who?
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
Who's that?
luke rudkowski
I have no idea.
ian crossland
Is that like somebody's dog?
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Wow, okay.
ian crossland
That's not who you're talking about.
unidentified
Good one, Ian.
luke rudkowski
I like that, Ian.
ian crossland
I misspoke.
lydia smith
Rude.
ian crossland
I love you, Seamus.
tim pool
Here we go.
ian crossland
I need you.
tim pool
Dorktanian says, how are you sure that some Tesla employee in California isn't trying to make your death look like a traffic accident?
unidentified
Uh huh.
ian crossland
How do you know?
bill ottman
Tim, do you have enough notifications, bro?
What, which where?
luke rudkowski
29,000.
tim pool
No, that's 282,923 notifications.
I wonder what they say.
You know, I got like people, people like I try and tell them like when it comes to having a lot of followers on these social media platforms.
Yeah, get notifications.
bill ottman
You gotta turn them off, yeah.
tim pool
At a certain point, it's just whatever.
Yeah, it's just there.
unidentified
282,925.
tim pool
You know what's cool?
I actually didn't know this, but we have like 300,000 subs on Rumble, too.
TimCastIRL, and so does my TimCast channel.
But my Tim Pool channel, for some reason, only has like 70.
So I was like, let's just put all my personal show videos on the TimCast one with 300k subs.
That's amazing.
Rumble's doing a great job.
And then on mine as well, all of my tweets.
Go up there.
Yeah.
The videos do too, right?
bill ottman
Yep.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Yep.
bill ottman
It looks like you got a little, a small one from, for 20 tokens.
You can do tokens too, but is there a game that you're enjoying?
tim pool
Let's do, let's do this.
And we'll, uh, answered on episode 632.
bill ottman
We're going to update this FYI in the future.
So you can just respond instantly for super, for the live stream use case.
So there'll be able to say, cause, uh, the, they want you to answer on stream.
You just click once.
ian crossland
But what if you go through?
bill ottman
And you don't respond to anything and you say, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes Is there a game you're really enjoying these days?
tim pool
I play one video game and it's Spelunky 2.
And I'm currently mapping the Spelunky multiverse.
So for those that are familiar with Spelunky 2, it's a roguelite game where you enter into
a cave and you go down various levels, and then at the end you actually go on a rocket
ship up to Hundun's World or whatever it's called, I don't know, and then there's the
Cosmic Ocean.
I don't care about the Cosmic Ocean at all, for those that are familiar with the game.
What I'm doing is, once you unlock seeds, you can actually type in an alphanumeric code,
which will give you a specific generation.
So the game is randomly generated, procedurally generated.
Every new game is different.
But if you unlock seeded runs, you can actually enter a code.
I think it's like, I don't know how many digits it is, 10 or something.
So what I've been doing, I started with World 1, 2, 3, I'm on 252 right now.
So I've played through that many games.
And there's a bunch more, I've probably played thousands of games of Spelunky, it's ridiculous.
ian crossland
I hope you call it the Spelunkyverse, as you were talking about the Spelunky multiverse.
Yeah, just the Spelunkiverse or Spelunkyverse.
tim pool
But there's also, there's 0 through 9, and then A, B, C, D, E, F. So there's a lot of potential world generations in this game.
And so I'm just going with numbers, so I've played up to world 253.
So I'm actually just going 0-0-0-0-0-0-1, 0-0-0-0-0-0-2, 0-0-0-0-0-0-3, and then I'm up to 2-53.
ian crossland
You beat them all?
You beat one before you move on?
tim pool
No, not beat them all.
Played through them to a certain point.
Some of them are, like, really bad, and you're like, ugh, I will.
ian crossland
Like where you can't beat it?
Do they have places where you fall?
tim pool
You can beat them all, but some of them are just really annoying where you have no resources.
Some of the level design requires you to anger some of the characters you don't want to anger, and then it's just like, you could.
ian crossland
Kinda sucks.
tim pool
Some are really easy, like World 47.
For those that are Spelunky fans, this one's gonna really help you out.
World 47 starts with a jetpack.
And in 4-3, when you're dropping the lava to open the secret lair to the Queen's lair to fight the turtle guy, whatever his name is.
There's actually, on the ground floor, an escape hatch that brings you to... I don't know what you call it, like a subterranean?
Anyway, there's a level where you're supposed to die, if you're not good at the game.
Lava kills you, and then the Ankh resurrects you, and then you can go through a secret door.
In World 47, it's all zeros and then 47, there's actually a door you can go in, so when the lava lands, you can just go into it behind the door and then leave.
So, for those that are, you know, fans of Spelunky.
unidentified
Cheat code.
tim pool
But, uh, sort of, yeah, I guess.
But it's the same world over and over again.
But more importantly, if you're really good at the game, you can just not die there.
So, like, when the lava falls, you can just throw ropes, put it underneath one of the ledges, and then get a jetpack and fly out.
There's a bunch of other ways to do it.
Anyway, that's the game I'm playing.
I know too much about it.
And again, like I said, I don't really care for the cosmic ocean.
ian crossland
Is that a zone?
luke rudkowski
You lost me there.
tim pool
I like Apex Legends, but... Cosmic Ocean is the second and final secret world in Spelunky 2 that has 99 levels.
ian crossland
You just skip it usually when you play?
tim pool
Well, I usually play to it and then just don't care.
Like, it's just so boring.
Yeah, it's intense.
So, yeah, it's a different kind of game.
You're trying to pop three orbs and then a jellyfish attacks you and I'm just like, I don't really care about that.
I like the game where you're flying around with a jetpack and your shopkeepers are fighting you and you're getting the gold and stuff like that.
Anyway, it's a fun game.
Okay, now that I've wasted a lot of time talking about that, let's try and read some more Super Chats.
The Musicanon says, Tim, people are salvaging Tesla wrecks, gutting them for the batteries and motors, and installing them on old cars like BMWs with custom firmware.
Large market for custom electric cars out there.
Alright, let's do it!
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Let's make the Mind's Car.
bill ottman
I'm in.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We'll, we'll, we'll, Timcast Mines, we'll, we'll integrate it with Mines.
So, however that can work, maybe tokens can do something for you.
Maybe like, you can charge it with tokens somehow, something like that.
Like, I don't know, we'll figure it out, but that would be cool.
And then it's like, to charge it, you can pay your normal electric bill,
but then based on how much charge it takes, you'll like be granted tokens or something.
bill ottman
Who's leading the engineering on this car?
tim pool
We gotta find somebody!
bill ottman
We gotta find somebody.
tim pool
And then we'll just sponsor the creation of it.
We'll make a really sleek video, and then maybe we'll do an auction for it or something.
One-of-a-kind, unique car with logos on it.
bill ottman
Let's do it!
tim pool
That'd be super cool.
bill ottman
I'm serious.
tim pool
What kind of car should it be?
lydia smith
Something cool.
ian crossland
I'm wide open on that one.
Luke, what do you think?
tim pool
What do you think, Lydia?
lydia smith
It's gotta be a Boss Mustang.
ian crossland
Prius.
lydia smith
It's gotta be a Prius.
unidentified
No, I'm just kidding.
lydia smith
I like my idea better.
ian crossland
What year Mustang?
lydia smith
Like a 68, 67.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
I hear good things.
lydia smith
That's what's up.
bill ottman
I'm into the Mustang.
tim pool
All right, we'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
lydia smith
Do it.
unidentified
Do it.
tim pool
Let's grab some super chats.
What is this?
Someone said something about Let's see, Fleg Bigums says, Shaggy is a Vietnam vet, canine unit.
His cowardice is begging his friends not to get involved.
He only opens up to a dog, PTSD like a mofo.
Oh, that's so sad.
lydia smith
That is so horrible.
tim pool
That is true.
It's like his friends are constantly getting in danger and he's like, guys, no, don't do this.
And you know what's funny?
Cause he's kind of right.
Cause every single time they do get attacked and I'm pretty sure often these, these guys in costumes almost do hurt them.
You know, pretty serious stuff.
There's a lot of violence and Benny Hill music too, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, there's laugh tracks too.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, the old Scooby Doo had a lot of laugh tracks.
Scooby Doo.
ian crossland
Always looking for clues.
tim pool
It's a clue!
ian crossland
Don't eat that, Shaggy!
tim pool
It's a clue!
Here's a bunch of superchats of people wanting AI image generation.
What's this one?
Search Adrenochrome.
I wonder what that one is.
ian crossland
Oh, I did look up Made in America, and it's like Iron Maiden.
You typed in the AI to it?
tim pool
Oh, Made in America.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says PimTool.
That actually would be a funny one.
He also said Luke Milkers.
unidentified
Damn right.
tim pool
I don't know if that would work.
That one's too new of an idea.
Too new of an idea.
Someone said Cleft the Misfit, Ben Shapiro playing tennis.
We did that one.
That was actually really funny.
RJ says, Ian defeats climate change with graphene.
I actually referenced that in my segment earlier today when I was talking about euthanasia, the Great Reset and how they want population reduction.
And I pointed out that in the turn of the century, 1800s and 1900s, they were writing about how horse manure would pile up in the streets of New York and it would be a disaster.
And the car was invented and it never happened.
Now they're saying carbon is destroying the planet and it's gonna end the world.
Perhaps a new technology like mining carbon from the atmosphere to make graphene is going to stop that.
So it's like, if we've done it before and used technology to overcome these problems, why would we not do it again?
And why is the Great Reset the solution?
It's not.
I think they're lying about it because they want political power.
I think their view is just like, oh no, we have to do this.
Give us all of your authority and bend the knee to us so we can be in charge.
ian crossland
It's either that or it's very short-sighted, and they're not understanding about solutions, and that's also very bad, and you don't want to follow people that are short-sighted.
tim pool
27 said, quote, the end is Bill Nye.
Tony Bologna says, Mark of the Beast.
Ooh, you want to type that one in?
lydia smith
That'd be good.
tim pool
If it's good, I'll search for it too.
ian crossland
I typed, we are change milkers, but it's still loading.
tim pool
Christopher says, do Joe Biden sniffing Ian Crosland's hair?
Please, please no.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Give it a couple years and then I'll be, the AI will parse me properly.
Which, which, what did you want me to type in?
The end is nigh?
tim pool
The end is Bill Nye.
ian crossland
Oh, Bill Nye.
tim pool
Raul Hernandez says, this one's for Lydia.
Always loved your input and you'll be greatly missed.
Long live Chicken Ian.
unidentified
Chicken Ian!
lydia smith
Yeah, we love Chicken Ian.
Chicken Ian will always be with you.
Can't get rid of him.
He's great.
tim pool
Marked Ashamed says, so Rakita Law's channel is back.
Seems like Google is doing the practice of blinking channels and websites as a new form of intimidation.
Well, that's what I was saying.
It was a mass report.
So the AI took him down instantly.
And then they went whoops and put him back.
bill ottman
So they said it was a mistake?
tim pool
Well, I don't know if they said it was a mistake, but that tends to be what happens.
ian crossland
How's the jury system going at Mines?
Is it still active?
bill ottman
Yeah.
ian crossland
Because you see the AI Bill of Rights the White House proposed?
Did you see it?
bill ottman
I didn't.
ian crossland
Like this last week, they proposed this AI Bill of Rights.
And one of the things is you should have a right to a human in these social networks.
And I'm wondering if the human, because Tim was saying it's so expensive for a person to hire somebody so that they can admin, that the community is the person and the people that will have you available.
You know, they've opted in.
bill ottman
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think that the Birdwatch program at Twitter, the problem with it is that it's enforcing Twitter's ridiculous terms of service, which are censorship-based, but Birdwatch in itself is actually similar to the jury system on Mines.
So there are some good things about Birdwatch, but it's enforcing chaos.
Like, Twitter's terms are a joke.
tim pool
I want to answer this Super Minds from Gnoldub.
What do you think of the Tucker Carlson interview with Kanye?
Do you think Kanye has any chance of becoming president?
Who has the best chance?
Well, okay.
I think the interview was great.
And Kanye, he says some stuff, but he mentioned that 50%, he said there are more black babies being aborted than born in New York.
lydia smith
Fact check true.
tim pool
Fact check true.
And that's kind of crazy.
That's a terrifying concept.
You've got to look at how many are being born and then wonder about the specific population reduction targeting the black community, because a lot of these abortion clinics are in these neighborhoods.
And that's just weird and freaky.
Um, does he have a chance of becoming president?
Sure, but is it a big chance?
Probably not.
Who has the best chance?
Trump.
I mean, right now, Trump.
So, I don't know what else to tell you.
Trump be easy.
Alright, everybody!
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Bill, do you want to shout anything out?
Yeah.
bill ottman
Thanks for having me, man.
It was great to see you guys.
tim pool
Yeah.
Even though you ran out of gas?
unidentified
Hit me.
bill ottman
Yeah.
It's worth it.
lydia smith
It's worth it.
tim pool
Yeah.
bill ottman
Hit me up.
Mines.com slash opmin.
Also, you know, if you're a creator.
Let's do the superminds thing.
You can earn for replying to people.
We're really psyched about it.
I think that it's a new dynamic.
tim pool
This is really cool because the queries exist outside of any other framework, which means you could incorporate these questions into any YouTube video you do.
bill ottman
We're going to do an OBS plug-in too.
tim pool
So I like I'll say this a shout for instance like Jeremy over the quartering Imagine you're doing a segment and at the end of every segment you say I'm gonna grab a couple super minds It's basically funding the production like these two super minds were big I'm not saying every single one is gonna be big but they can help this is a way to fund smaller channels smaller creators Videos and everything if they're looking for sponsors someone asking a question could be a form of sponsor.
ian crossland
What percent does mines take?
bill ottman
It's 15%, which is half of Super Chats, but this is actually a key point.
tim pool
Less than half.
bill ottman
We're doing a commission program, so if anyone who signs up to mine's through your referral code, you get 5% of their earnings perpetually.
So that comes out of our 15%.
Oh wow.
So if a sign up comes through anyone on the site's, your referral code, anybody's, you get 5% of their stuff perpetual.
Actually, you know, this is a funny story, but OnlyFans, when they first started, this caused them to absolutely explode because people were recruiting for them because they would get the commission fee.
So commissions are super powerful.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Right on, man.
luke rudkowski
Sweet.
Well, thank you for coming on.
Good to see you as well.
I have a Minds channel as well.
And I have two words for everyone.
Go to LukeUncensored.com and I'm there on the forum.
I'm going to be doing an AMA there.
I got three masterclasses, exclusive videos, merchandise, LukeUncensored.com.
And Linda, we will miss you.
lydia smith
Thank you, Luke.
ian crossland
I appreciate it.
It's bittersweet, Lydia.
It's been quite a ride.
Yeah, it has.
Thanks for coming along, or thanks for having me along with you.
lydia smith
Of course!
Yeah, happy to have you.
And I'll let Ian say goodbye, but I had a couple things I wanted to say before I go.
Do you have anything more to say, Ian?
ian crossland
Just, yeah, yeah.
Take care of yourself, and this world, this is yours to make.
So do your best.
tim pool
Do you want the last word?
So should I talk now?
I just want to say thank you guys all so much for your very kind, compassionate words.
ian crossland
I really appreciate all your nice comments.
I'm not dying.
tim pool
I'm still going to be around.
I'm still going to be on Twitter.
lydia smith
That's fine, we'll do it that way, that's fine.
I just want to say thank you guys all so much, your very kind, compassionate words.
I really appreciate all your nice comments.
I'm not dying.
I'm still gonna be around, I'm still gonna be on Twitter, I'm still gonna be causing trouble,
posting on Instagram, doing all this stuff.
I am disappointed and it does pain me to say that I did something that I never thought I would have to
do.
I started an OnlyFans.
You guys can follow me over there at lidsoftiktok.
Go over, check it out.
We already made a little video for you and I think you guys are gonna like it.
Otherwise, you guys can follow me on Twitter and minds.com at sarahpatchlids as well as sarahpatchlids.me.
tim pool
Lids of TikTok, it's actually very clever.
lydia smith
That's right, lids of TikTok.
tim pool
So my friends, Lydia, it was a couple of years ago that I was posting nonsense on Instagram and Lydia had commented something pertaining to news which was, I had noticed a couple of the comments were insightful.
And then I don't know if it was like I messaged you or you messaged me or something and then you started sending me stories you thought were interesting and I found that to be helpful because I was producing segments and I was like, oh, I didn't see that.
I missed that one.
And so that actually ended up helping me out.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
When we decided we wanted to do some kind of show, I was like, hey, you know a lot of this stuff.
You know the stories.
You know the insights.
Why don't you come out and help us start this up?
And you could be, you know, producing and doing the camera stuff.
And so that was just like almost two years ago.
And then you came and joined the show since then, from the beginning.
And then there was another funny moment where, this is, I don't know, last year at some point I think, I saw these amazing videos on Instagram from a rollerblader, Brett Dasovic, and he has a series called Audio On, and it was him skating really unique ways, and I was not a rollerblader, I've been rollerblading more these days because it's a blast.
And I saw these clips and they were cool and he's really good.
And so then I was like, we need to bring more action sports people out.
I invited skateboarders, scooter people, and then I hit him up and I was like, you want to come out and skate?
And Brett knew the show and he was like, yes.
And then he said, can my friend come with me?
And I was like, who's your friend?
He's like, Andy.
And I said, sure!
Yep.
Andy came out, and then I meet these two guys, and they're really awesome.
And I said, you know, why don't you guys work here?
We'll find a way to make this work.
You guys are really cool.
I think you can help us out.
And initially, we had Brett filming, because we needed film for the vlog.
And Andy was doing, like, grounds maintenance and control for, like, skate park stuff.
And then we found out that Andy's basically like a tech whiz security expert with a degree and everything.
And I was like, OK, we are drastically underutilized by the talents of this man.
And then he ends up building out this studio and the design and all the cables.
And then Brett, we find out, is a pop culture genius.
And we're like, Brett, you got to do a show.
Andy, we said, you've got to be our CTO.
We need your expertise to be able to do this.
And then at some point Andy and Lydia fell in love and got married and now are going off into the wild to have a family.
So I want to say thank you so much to you guys for everything.
It's been an amazing ride and I hope you guys will come back and visit.
And we'll make sure to shout out the stuff that you're working on when it's up and running.
It's been absolutely amazing.
And we have some new people who are going to come and help us, but they will never, unfortunately, I'm going to look you in the eyes, they will never...
You'll never be the same!
lydia smith
Can I just say before I go too that my replacement is fantastic.
You guys are really gonna love him.
He's an extreme sports dude.
He's an international bro.
He's a music professional.
You guys are gonna love him.
He's fantastic.
People are like, oh, you got big shoes to fill.
Literally, I have big feet.
But it's like, he's fantastic and I think you guys are gonna love him for sure.
So don't worry.
He's awesome.
I'm leaving the show in good hands.
I'm looking forward to the future.
tim pool
Right on.
All right, everybody.
Thank you all so much for everything.
Thank you to Andy and Lydia for everything you've done to help make all of this possible and grow this company.
And we'll see you all next time.
And then we'll make sure that once you guys have whatever show it is you're doing, whatever, we can make sure we can shout it out and everybody knows where to find you.
lydia smith
Awesome.
Thanks.
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