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tim pool
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Okay, Jeffrey Dahmer was LGBTQ.
Why the fuck would they remove this from the movie?
Discuss.
richie mcginniss
You looking at me?
tim pool
Come on!
ian crossland
They're retconning Jeffrey Dahmer?
What do you got?
richie mcginniss
I mean, that's what's that's what happens with Basically, the progression of progressivism is you get to a certain point where no matter what you do or say is somehow, you know, there's no ground to stand on anymore.
ian crossland
The progression of progressivism.
richie mcginniss
Yeah.
So once you progress enough, it's so progressed that there's no aggression to progress upon.
ian crossland
It's like when you go so far to the right, you're on the far left.
tim pool
Here's what I'm saying.
What does the LGBTQ tag mean?
Does it mean Skittles and rainbows?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Or does it mean content relating to lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer?
ian crossland
It's really offensive, I think, at all.
Like, if two gay guys kiss, why do you have to put a G tag on there?
What if two straight people kiss?
Like, what, do you have to put an S text on there for sex?
unidentified
Straight.
ian crossland
For straight.
LGBTQIS.
We need to put the S in that.
tim pool
Here's what I'm saying.
What they're saying is you can never have a negative depiction of anyone LGBTQ.
It doesn't count as LGBTQ because he's a bad guy.
Like, what do you mean?
Gay people can be bad people.
You know, like they're normal people.
richie mcginniss
No, you change it.
It's just instead of LGBTQ plus, it's LGBTQ minus.
And you know, it's going to be a negative portrayal.
ian crossland
What's the E?
tim pool
Evil.
@dontwalkrun
Because they don't, they don't want people to think Jeffrey Dahmer and like, it's a stigma or something.
But what about, what about movies like say, They Slash Them?
Which is a horror movie that has to do with the LGBTQ community.
ian crossland
It's called They Slash Them.
tim pool
Wait, for real?
@dontwalkrun
How do you not know about that?
I saw that movie with Kevin Bacon.
richie mcginniss
I saw that on demand and I was like, I thought maybe that it was what I thought it was about, but I was like, nah.
lydia smith
That's hilarious.
tim pool
So, is horror movie They-Them on Netflix?
@dontwalkrun
They slash them.
tim pool
The chilling tale of They-Them offers an entertaining horror experience like no other.
Moviegoers, They-Them is an intriguing tale of terror.
The haunting narrative follows a group of LGBTQIA people that are forced to attend a conversion camp where they must survive the relentless efforts of a mysterious killer.
Is that it?
Just like he wants to kill him?
They Them is an empowering tale of queer resilience.
Do you guys see that there's two movies?
There's one where this dude is like forcefully transgendered by a scientist.
@dontwalkrun
Oh yeah, it was Sigourney Weaver.
I think she's the scientist.
tim pool
Is it?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, I think it's a Michelle Rodriguez movie.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
You're thinking of the other one I was gonna say.
This one is like the dude ran over the guy's daughter, so he kidnaps him and like forcefully trans, trans sex changes him.
And then there's the Michelle Rodriguez one.
Yeah, I saw that.
That one was so, they're both so bad, these movies, but I think they're on Netflix.
richie mcginniss
God, and I have to watch, all these bad movies that you're telling me about, now I have to go watch it.
tim pool
Is that, is that gonna be labeled transgender?
The Michelle Rodriguez one is like, it's a, it's a, it's an effeminate hitman who gets like kidnapped and turned into Michelle Rodriguez, but like Michelle Rodriguez is an actual woman.
And then Michelle Rodriguez is like, I used to be a man, now I'm a woman, I'm gonna get revenge.
And it's just like, okay, I guess, like, that's your motivation.
I prefer the guy's dog got killed and then he wants to kill everybody four, four, four movies in, but you know.
But are they going to label that transgender, right?
ian crossland
I don't know.
I know this whole Jeremy Dahmer being gay thing is new.
I mean, I, I think I'd heard that he was back in the day and that was part of it was his parents didn't like it or something.
So he went crazy.
tim pool
It's called the assignment.
@dontwalkrun
Yes.
unidentified
Wow.
Yikes.
ian crossland
What is this?
tim pool
Um, the assignment.
So we'll start known as tomboy and formerly as reassignment.
What were they thinking with this movie?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Look at the budget was under 3 million.
It made 388,000.
I don't, I don't understand.
@dontwalkrun
Who directed it?
Anybody of note?
tim pool
Rogue plastic surgeon loses a medical license.
And then.
richie mcginniss
Dude, this movie sounds awesome.
lydia smith
I need to watch this movie now.
It sounds great.
richie mcginniss
I have a list of 300 bad movies that I need to watch.
@dontwalkrun
Wait, wait, wait.
Scroll back up.
Look who did the music.
unidentified
Where?
@dontwalkrun
Giorgio Moroder.
unidentified
Wow.
@dontwalkrun
That's amazing.
lydia smith
Is he talented?
I don't know.
unidentified
Oh, he's, he's like Sigourney Weaver.
Yeah.
tim pool
Saban films.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
That means it's trash.
tim pool
Look, I don't know.
Whatever.
Maybe some people like the movie.
My question is, are they going to label it LGBT on Netflix?
ian crossland
When did they start doing this?
I didn't know that they had to label movies gay.
That's really weird.
lydia smith
It is weird.
And I tweeted about this and I said, if white men have to own school shooters and women have to own Asada Shakur and Ava Braun or whatever, then they should own this too!
There's bad people everywhere.
richie mcginniss
How about this?
Nobody has to own anything and you own up to what you actually do in your own life.
tim pool
It's not.
How about that?
I'm here at dvd.netflix.com, which is Netflix, and it says it's just a thriller and an action thriller.
unidentified
weird but very low scores though i mean that is hold on let me search for they them three out of five search for they slash them on medic search search teletubbies slash that's important search them doesn't come up no i think you have to type out slash because he's like it's a slasher does teletubbies come up no It's they slash the word slash.
tim pool
All right, let's try this.
I'm going to try the L word.
You guys know that show, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
That one's definitely LGBT.
There you go.
Look, LGBT.
I click it.
lydia smith
But is it in a positive light?
tim pool
Well, I clicked LGBT to see, are there negative movies in any way about LGBT?
And it looks like the answer is no.
@dontwalkrun
Birdcage.
richie mcginniss
What the hell?
Brokeback Mountain is LGBT?
I thought that was just two cowboys.
unidentified
Whoa.
@dontwalkrun
They slashed them as a 33% of critics' reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, with an average of 4.8 out of 10.
So yeah, that's bad.
richie mcginniss
Can I ask a question, Tim?
What other lifestyle choice, I don't know, what other monikers are there for tags?
tim pool
Oh, dude, let's make up a new one.
richie mcginniss
What else are they tagging?
tim pool
Let's make one.
VVP, VVP, we need one more letter.
richie mcginniss
Vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian.
tim pool
Vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian, and gluten-free.
ian crossland
Breatharian.
unidentified
I'm VVPG.
tim pool
Vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian, or gluten-free.
@dontwalkrun
Well, I'm looking at this.
tim pool
VVPG.
@dontwalkrun
I'm looking at the list you have up.
lydia smith
Or PGPV.
tim pool
Pescatarian, gluten-free, vegan, or vegetarian.
ian crossland
GF.
tim pool
Are you PVGG friendly?
richie mcginniss
Or what about the Jainists?
You know, it's like this film may include violence against ants, you know?
ian crossland
Yeah, may step on grass.
unidentified
May step on grass.
tim pool
Grass was stepped on in the making of this film.
richie mcginniss
The Janus community is completely overlooked in this whole situation.
@dontwalkrun
Outraged.
lydia smith
Truly marginalized.
tim pool
You know what movie I think is really funny?
Have you guys ever seen Ginger Snaps?
@dontwalkrun
Oh no, I've heard of that.
tim pool
It's just like, yeah, it's like this chick becomes a werewolf or whatever, but it's funny because I imagine the guy who made it was like eating Girl Scout cookies and he was like, he's looking at the box of Ginger Snaps and he's like, that should be a movie.
Ginger snaps.
@dontwalkrun
What's it about?
tim pool
She's like a werewolf or something.
unidentified
Half of these movies, like, look at some of these movies though.
tim pool
Boy culture.
lydia smith
Kinsey's on there.
@dontwalkrun
These are awful.
tim pool
Small town gay bar.
Eating out two.
Sloppy seconds.
richie mcginniss
Actually, I didn't like eating out one, but sloppy seconds.
@dontwalkrun
I'm going to tell you guys a quick story.
I used to work freelance at MTV networks.
tim pool
Oh, here you go.
Wait, wait.
LGBT horror slasher.
In the blood.
unidentified
Okay.
@dontwalkrun
So I used to, I used to do quality control where I'd have to sit there and I'd have to watch their stuff, their video on demand stuff to make sure that it was technically correct and, and everything.
And under the MTV network umbrella is Logo, which is like the gay channel.
And so I would have to sit there and I have to watch their gay dramas.
All of them are, they're so bad.
lydia smith
Poorly done.
@dontwalkrun
They're poorly done.
And it's, and it's not like, It's so weird, like, oh, well, we don't see, you know, we don't see ourselves, you know, in movies and whatever.
It's like, no, there's tons of them and they're all terrible, you know?
richie mcginniss
Moonlight's a great movie.
@dontwalkrun
Moonlight's good.
richie mcginniss
I like Moonlight.
I like Moonlight.
@dontwalkrun
I love how they said that Moonlight was such an important movie and, like, the black community is like, We're not watching this.
tim pool
Moonlight?
richie mcginniss
I watched Brokeback Mountain with my hockey team in high school.
unidentified
It was good.
tim pool
I think I saw it.
What's Moonlight?
richie mcginniss
It was empowering.
tim pool
Is Moonlight something?
@dontwalkrun
Moonlight is the Academy Award winner from a couple years ago.
richie mcginniss
So Tim watches like the worst movies ever, but he doesn't watch He'll watch She-Hulk.
That won the Academy Award.
tim pool
Moonlight?
Why the fuck would I watch Moonlight?
ian crossland
What's this about?
@dontwalkrun
Nobody watched it.
richie mcginniss
You won best picture.
@dontwalkrun
Nobody watched it.
It didn't make it.
unidentified
I did.
richie mcginniss
I like Moonlight.
unidentified
I watch She-Hulk and I regret every moment I watch Moonlight.
lydia smith
But you do it.
unidentified
I thought Brokeback Mountain was good.
ian crossland
The thing about Birdcage was it was a good movie.
It happened to have gay people in it, but you didn't have to tag it.
It was never tagged in the 90s.
@dontwalkrun
It was a remake.
It was a remake of a French movie.
ian crossland
Interesting.
But man, it was so good.
It had Robin Williams, it's got Hank Azaria, and then you don't have to tell people it's gay to get them to go watch it because it's already badass.
richie mcginniss
Can you look up the professional that movie with, uh, it's like Natalie Portman's first movie.
Um, that's about a relationship between like a 55 year old.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, but they don't like, they don't actually.
They aren't romantic, technically.
richie mcginniss
What do they call it?
Helophilia?
Like if you're attracted to adolescents?
What's it called?
@dontwalkrun
Hepaphilia.
Hepaphilia.
richie mcginniss
Did it say Hepaphilia there?
@dontwalkrun
He's not attracted to her.
richie mcginniss
That's the remake, dude.
It's Le Prophecy of Noah.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
No, this is the one with... What's her face in it?
@dontwalkrun
No, that's different.
richie mcginniss
No, that's the new one.
Oh, right, right.
Luc Besson did the original.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
Brilliant movie.
It's French.
richie mcginniss
Absolutely brilliant movie.
It is a brilliant movie, but the subject matter, you're like, this is weird, dude.
They cut it for American audiences, so the version you saw is missing pieces.
unidentified
No, I've seen the- Yes, the original is a little more suggestive.
@dontwalkrun
Well, they, they added like another 20 minutes to the director's cut.
So yeah.
ian crossland
Is she young?
Was she under 18 when she did it?
@dontwalkrun
She was like 13.
richie mcginniss
She's like pretty pubescent.
It's yeah.
It's weird.
ian crossland
And they got her.
@dontwalkrun
But they're not making out or anything.
It's like nothing.
It's she loves him and he's like, he's like struggling.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, that's true.
That is true.
tim pool
She was in Sesame street.
ian crossland
Oh, Natalie.
unidentified
Oh.
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tim pool
She's like five feet tall, you know?
Five foot tall?
richie mcginniss
Garden State.
Is that LGBTQ?
ian crossland
Good movie.
tim pool
Garden State?
unidentified
No.
josh hammer
No.
@dontwalkrun
It's pretty good.
richie mcginniss
They have to put a New Jersey tag so you know that you need to plug your nose before you watch it.
tim pool
Revenge of the Sith.
Blockbusters.
ian crossland
What does that mean?
tim pool
John Carter.
That movie flopped miserably.
@dontwalkrun
I like that movie though.
I like John Carter.
tim pool
He's from Earth, so on Mars, he's super strength, because the gravity is weaker, so he can, like, jump really high or whatever.
unidentified
It's awesome.
@dontwalkrun
Interesting.
tim pool
I guess.
@dontwalkrun
It was a major bomb, but it was a cool movie.
lydia smith
Willem Dafoe.
Willem Dafoe.
I love it already.
@dontwalkrun
Yes.
ian crossland
Did you guys see Netflix's people are going to cancel, like, a quarter of their subscribers are about to cancel or something?
@dontwalkrun
Why?
ian crossland
Just because they can't afford it.
At least that's what they said.
@dontwalkrun
The recession, maybe?
richie mcginniss
I'm going to cancel because they put these stupid tags on them.
lydia smith
When did they do that?
richie mcginniss
Seriously, I'm not even- I'm done.
That's it.
When did you normally start tagging?
tim pool
Look at this one, here's a quote.
I mean, I know it's technically true, but this is not the representation we're looking for.
unidentified
Well, go fuck yourself, dude.
@dontwalkrun
Oh no, Quintron doesn't like the LGBTQ category.
richie mcginniss
Also, by the way, like, how are we supposed to know anything about the Indian?
unidentified
Look at it!
tim pool
It says it right there, look at it!
unidentified
LGBTQ.
ian crossland
What the fuck?
tim pool
Dude, he did, man!
He, like, some dude, check this out, some, uh, I think it was Dahmer, there was a guy that he had, like, cut his brain out, or whatever, and the guy escaped, and then the cops saw him, and he was like, and then they brought him back to Dahmer, who then ate him.
@dontwalkrun
Whoa, yeah, dude, that's real.
That's that's not real but also Jeffrey Dahmer isn't the only gay person in the movie so There's other gay people in it.
ian crossland
It's not LBT or Q so it should just say gay, but then that they might be like I'm about to say GQ Yeah, GQ magazine, it means gay and queer.
unidentified
Oh, wow!
lydia smith
Checks out.
Yep, checks out.
richie mcginniss
That's really offensive that they would expand their acronym along with the times.
@dontwalkrun
Not gentlemen's quarterly.
Quarterly.
tim pool
Yeah, GQ.
Just, you know.
lydia smith
Yeah, I did not know that.
Thank you for telling me.
richie mcginniss
I want a leprechaun tag for anything Irish.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Potato.
lydia smith
Potato.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, potato tag.
lydia smith
Yeah, works for Polish.
ian crossland
That's the road this is going down.
tim pool
It's insane to me.
It's like an element of the film is that he's gay.
It's a huge component.
It's literally what he was doing.
He was killing and eating gay people.
And they're like, yeah, but don't let anyone know that gay is in it.
richie mcginniss
Well, it's their own fault for putting the dang tag in the first place and thinking, you know, like people think we're woke if we do this and then we're good.
tim pool
I figured it out.
Let's remove the tag, but on any movie without gay people, we put not LGBTQ.
Problem solved.
@dontwalkrun
But they have categories for, you know, Hispanic, for black, for this and that, you know.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, potato.
@dontwalkrun
So, so if you, if you take away that tag, they're going to go, Oh, well, they're just homophobic now, you know?
So you, you have to have those tags, but, but just don't, you know, just don't put the movies in it that they don't agree with.
tim pool
I really got to talk about this.
Richie, what is this?
richie mcginniss
Okay.
Well, when I originally saw it, I thought that that photo on the left was like completely real.
unidentified
I didn't realize it had been doctored.
richie mcginniss
But that also makes it funnier because like, we're not just laughing, you know, it's, it's doctored and now it's, that's hilarious.
So the fact that she's complaining about getting Photoshopped.
tim pool
Well, so here's the story.
Chloe Grace Moretz said that- so here's this photo, you can see it.
They photoshopped it to move her legs up, so she looks like this weird Peter Griffin thing with no torso.
And then she said, everyone was making fun of my body.
She says, meme with altered photo likening her to Family Guy character made her a recluse with anxiety.
unidentified
Okay, dude, holy shit.
@dontwalkrun
The photo was taken in 2016.
It wasn't even like a recent thing.
tim pool
But they just photoshopped it.
It's like, bro, she's 25, okay?
She's 25, okay? She's 25 now and they made a photoshop of you?
Holy shit dude, you should not be in this profession.
richie mcginniss
You became a public figure and there's this thing called the internet.
unidentified
Yeah.
Go ahead.
tim pool
And to be fair, she was like a child.
She was a child actress and she didn't know.
richie mcginniss
So then she has to take that up with her parents probably.
No, for sure.
tim pool
But I mean, if, if she actually came out and said, I never wanted to live this way and my parents misled me, I'd be like, wow.
Yeah, exactly.
People on the internet made me look weird.
It's like, like bro, do you know how many pictures of me there are on the internet that look fucked up?
I think they're funny.
I save some of them.
There's one that's really good.
unidentified
The hot air balloon one?
tim pool
Yeah, the hot air balloon one.
lydia smith
I fucking love that one.
tim pool
My head is massive.
A beanie is tiny.
And then there's ropes hanging down from my head with a hot air balloon I'm standing in.
And I was just like, who made that?
unidentified
It's so delightful.
@dontwalkrun
It's so good.
richie mcginniss
The best is when I see, like, somebody posts a photo and it actually has, like, your lower body in it.
Like, people just, the most common comment is like, I've never seen Tim's feet before.
tim pool
There's one where it's me with my eyes cockeyed and I'm drooling.
And then my head goes up and then gets really small as a tiny brain with a little beanie on it.
I'm like, they're just good.
It's just funny.
Like, I think it's funny.
@dontwalkrun
It didn't leave you dealing with anxiety.
tim pool
I hide in my basement, cowering in the corner because people make fun of me, I guess?
ian crossland
Probably.
She doesn't have her outlet.
Like, she doesn't have a show where she can be like, this is actually who I am.
So she's stuck with the public's perception.
If they warp her, then she can't, she doesn't have a way to be like, actually guys, a lot of those actors have that problem.
@dontwalkrun
But you know, I mean, even though it is a Photoshop, obviously, I mean, she still has nice legs in it, at least.
richie mcginniss
You know what you can do, actually, she can do?
She's rich enough, just go buy a Faraday cage and just don't go on the internet anymore.
tim pool
I'm gonna say it again, I don't know if these websites are real, I think they're wrong, but with a net worth of estimated around 12 million dollars, I gotta say like, when I'm feeling bad and people are posting pictures about me, and then I'm like, I'm so miserable, I just pull out a hundred dollar bill.
richie mcginniss
You just buy a Revolutionary War musket and then you're like, I feel better now.
Civil war.
tim pool
No, like I don't actually care that people are talking shit on the internet.
I just, I don't give a shit.
And, uh, the, the real issue is security threats and things like that actually cost money.
Chloe, look, um, I was, I think Kick-Ass is a great movie.
I think you did a great job and, uh, you're, you're, you're a wonderful actress.
Congratulations.
I would recommend that you take those copious amounts of money that you have, the many dollars, and whenever you're feeling bad, just buy yourself a new car.
unidentified
Or get corrective surgery so that you actually look like the photoshopped image.
@dontwalkrun
But why?
tim pool
It's like a photoshop!
Calm the fuck down!
Daily Wire's doing this promo.
Dude, Jeremy Boring is brilliant when it comes to this marketing stuff.
The contest is to promote Jeremy's razors, and they're like, whoever promotes the most and gets the most referrals will win Jeremy's McLaren F1, or whatever the card is.
And the top of it says, Jeremy bought a McLaren F1 and drove it one time, and he doesn't want it anymore.
You could win it, but it's just great marketing.
But anyway, I bring that up, just I'm thinking about this, When I'm thinking about how much money she has Chloe is rich enough to have a hobby of buying new supercars Like she could go on the weekends back.
I was feeling really shit today So I went out and decided to buy a McLaren f1.
richie mcginniss
I got a couple lotuses Wait, can I tell your audience the story of when I was talking about the car the other day?
unidentified
Which car?
richie mcginniss
Okay, so I'm sitting in the kitchen, I'm like, I really want a 2015 Dodge Challenger scat pack stick shift with a sunroof in red.
And Tim's like, I got a blue one in the garage.
And I'm like, you do not, you do not.
And I go in there, there's a 2015 scat pack stick shift.
And I'm like, dude, you don't drive stick.
You're like, yeah, I bought it as an investment.
Are you kidding?
Let me drive this thing.
And so peeled out.
I did drive it and then I asked your kind cameraman not to have the camera on because I burned rubber in first, second, third and fourth.
I've never burned rubber in fourth.
tim pool
What are you doing?
richie mcginniss
No, no, it wasn't that way.
It was like tasteful.
It was, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't like, it wasn't like, you know, it was like just a little skirt to see when you can.
tim pool
Now I can never say the car.
richie mcginniss
It was a crystal Dodge Challenger that had never been played and Lizzo and Richie burned rubber in it.
unidentified
You just created the car, you monster.
tim pool
And so what happened was we had to buy a vehicle for the business and we ended up getting, what did we get?
unidentified
BMW?
tim pool
vehicle that we get, I can't remember. We were buying, we need a car for picking up
gas that can carry luggage and can seat like six. I don't think it was the Lexus. BMW?
No I think it was the Lexus. We needed something that we, like we don't want to get like a,
we actually were talking about getting a limo, a stretch because they're actually comparable
in price. That'd be pretty cool. They're not as expensive or anything.
richie mcginniss
Really hard to drive in the city and stuff.
tim pool
But no, I'm not talking about a big, long one.
I'm talking, you get like, you stretch it by like a foot, and then what happens is on the inside, when you're being transported, you have room for your luggage, and then you can relax and turn the TV on.
unidentified
Oh, that's nice, yeah.
tim pool
And it's the same price as a standard, like, you know, six-seater SUV or something.
It's not that much more money.
But anyway, we were there and this 2015 Challenger was there, stick shift, all that stuff.
And I don't know anything about it, but the guy, the sales guy was like walking through and said, normally these are the kind of cars we sell.
And then my brother told me, he's like, that car is only going to go up in value because they're limited edition.
richie mcginniss
And he was like, It's worth twice as much now.
tim pool
Probably.
It is.
richie mcginniss
I've been watching the prices because I'm looking for one.
I mean, literally that car, what, how many miles does that thing have on it?
Like 30?
tim pool
None.
richie mcginniss
Okay.
tim pool
13, 12 maybe?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
That's, but the guy basically was like, if you bought this, put it in your garage and just put a blanket, like a cover over it.
richie mcginniss
Don't let anybody put rubber on it.
tim pool
But he's like, in a couple of years it's worth more money.
And so my issue is like, People need to understand this too about net worth and money.
When I was younger, I was like, why would a rich person buy this big mansion?
It's pointless.
Like Shane Smith of Vice, he bought a $24 million mansion in Santa Monica.
I'm like, why would you do that?
You don't need it.
Why do you want to live in?
People need to understand this.
These big mansions, You have to maintain them.
I'll tell you guys, I'll let everybody in on a big secret.
It's just private information, but the building we're in originally was a small house that burned down.
This is what we were told.
The cast castle was originally this tiny little house.
It burned down and the insurance payment was big enough that they were able to make this bigger house.
Like five times the square footage.
The building's like 10,000 square feet livable.
It's huge.
We got it because we knew we were going to be turning studios, offices, and working business out of it.
Plus like a skate area and the green room.
We needed a big bar thing.
That's what we have in the basement.
But for the people who did it, they were just a regular middle class family.
They were probably thinking, and I don't know for sure, but they were probably thinking, hey, we got this big insurance payout.
If we build a bigger house, it'll be worth actually more.
So if we spend $600,000 on construction, we can sell it for a million or something like that.
What they didn't realize is that houses this big require staff.
Because when you have a family of three kids, okay, so you have four rooms being used.
The mom and the dad share a room, and the kids each have their own room, and there's eight bedrooms and eight bathrooms.
So what ends up happening is a pipe bursts and no one notices for a week, and now you've got serious water damage.
So you need the house to be filled, or you need a staff member to be walking around doing checks.
We get a leak in an area of the house we don't use as often.
It's a disaster.
So we have to have someone who goes to the house every day and just makes sure, because it's so big, but with more employees in it.
Using all the space, whenever a problem happens, we notice it right away.
So they sold.
They were like, we made a mistake.
It's too big.
That's what people don't get.
But here's what I realized.
The reason why people buy this stuff is because you cannot just have U.S.
dollars the way the U.S.
economy is set up with quantitative easing with the Federal Reserve.
If you just say, okay, I got $100,000.
I'll put in the bank and save it.
Congratulations.
In five years, it's worth half as much.
So, you gotta buy a Challenger.
And you put it in the garage, you don't use it, you don't buy it because you wanna drive it, you buy it because the value just keeps going up and you're retaining your, it's not an investment so much as it's a hedge.
richie mcginniss
So now I have to buy two Challengers so that I can have one that's an investment and the other one for burning rubber.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell ya, you know, we'll sign a contract to bring you onto the company as a sign-on bonus.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
You're the driver.
richie mcginniss
Okay, now we're talking.
ian crossland
That shit's gonna be worth a lot.
richie mcginniss
Now you're speaking my language.
ian crossland
That specific car will be worth more when people know you drove it.
richie mcginniss
Like Lizzo's flute.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
Actually, we're making a car.
We're making the first ever Timcast EV.
It's going to be the first.
We're talking with this local fabricator and manufacturer who can fully design and develop.
It's going to be expensive.
I think it'll cost us maybe like $100k, maybe $200k to make a legit leather interior.
Really nice.
Custom operating system.
Probably use Linux.
Not going to have all the bells and whistles of Tesla or anything like that, but we're going to make one.
And then we're going to do a commercial where it's going to be like, we're trying to figure out what's the right shell.
You know, so we have a Chevy Cobalt 2006 with 230,000 miles on it.
We're going to give that away in a contest.
So we're going to do like a win a free car contest.
And then it turns out you're winning this, this junker scrap car.
But we're trying to figure out what shell we should use.
for the EV. My brother was like, we should do a VW van, but people have done shitloads of those,
and they're really expensive to buy because people do want electric VW vans. So we got to find a good
car, like a Gremlin or something that we can turn into a luxury electric vehicle.
You know, I like the idea of it.
richie mcginniss
There's some good, I mean, there's some really cool, like, old defunct cars from the 50s and stuff, you know, like Nash or something like that.
Some kind of car that hasn't existed in 30, 40 years, you know?
tim pool
So we're gonna make it.
richie mcginniss
Get a Citroën or like all these cars.
tim pool
Citroën, yeah.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, like the old ones though, back from like when you saw a car and you're like, a German made that, or you saw a Citroën and you're like, that's so French.
Like, that looks like a French person made that, you know what I'm saying?
Just look at an old Citroen from like 1960, and then look at a BMW from the same era, and you can see the cultures in the design.
tim pool
We're gonna get the interiors custom.
ian crossland
So are you looking for the body to be steel, fiberglass, do you have a preference?
tim pool
Whatever.
ian crossland
Those old ones, are they all steel?
richie mcginniss
Yeah, they're probably pretty dang heavy.
Or a beetle, an old beetle, that's probably pretty light.
@dontwalkrun
What's the hook to give it away?
Are you gonna be selling razors?
tim pool
Give it away?
No, we're gonna do a commercial for it and sell it.
@dontwalkrun
And it's going to be- Oh, you're going to sell it.
tim pool
And we're going to, we're going to like, we're going to do custom hard print like signatures in it.
And it'll be the only Timcast electric car in existence.
unidentified
Okay.
@dontwalkrun
I thought you were going to do like, you were going to sell a product and say, Hey, you know, buy this product.
And then if you do, then we'll give away the car.
tim pool
I was thinking we would sell it.
And then just, it would be like, I don't expect to make a shill of money off it, but it would be like a unique promotional thing where only one of these cars are in existence.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
The giveaway would be the beater.
The 250,000 mile beater.
That was the one from earlier.
tim pool
I think what we should do is a contest for members where it's like someone had the idea that every month we should do something like we either give a thousand bucks or we give something away and I'm like that's actually a good idea because it's promotional.
It gets people to sign up to become members and we should look into the legalities because we could do cool stuff.
We could do like Hey, you know, on the last day of the month, we're gonna announce a member chosen at random through a random number generator because every member internally, there's like a number associated with them.
And then we'll say this month we're giving away... Guitar.
A guitar.
ian crossland
Sign one.
tim pool
Right, a signed guitar.
To a member, so... That's probably a great way to get people to sign up to become members.
@dontwalkrun
That sounds like a great incentive, actually.
ian crossland
That'd be badass.
tim pool
We could do three things.
We could do first, second, and third.
We could say the first choice will get this guitar.
It's valued at X. Second place will get $1,000.
Third place will get $500.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, so to come full circle you're basically doing that scene in Garden State where Natalie Portman like goes like And she's like nobody in the universe has ever done that before that was completely original like you're doing that with a car Yeah, I actually did that before she did that in that movie.
Oh, damn, yeah, see?
tim pool
When I was younger, I was complaining about how everything was always just routine, and so I would make up gibberish words as a point.
And so, hanging out with my friends, I gave them all random gibberish names, and then I was like- See, this makes a lot of sense now.
richie mcginniss
Now you've grown up, and you're making a gibberish car.
That's great.
tim pool
Yeah, I told one chick her name.
I was like, from now on, you're Octalapina Pufferscope.
And I was like, I'm just going to say something random that's not been said because I'm tired of everything.
It's so fucking boring.
And then, you know, my other friend thought it was hilarious.
He started doing it.
ian crossland
26 letters is not that many.
We need more.
tim pool
For what?
richie mcginniss
Arabic has 29.
ian crossland
Oh, what's that?
richie mcginniss
Arabic has 29.
tim pool
That's too many, too many.
unidentified
Pull it back, pull it back.
tim pool
I mean, honestly, it would make it easier to understand these ridiculous English words.
ian crossland
Yeah, double U, like was U not enough?
They needed a double U?
tim pool
And it's a V anyway.
The saying goes that English is a tough language, but it can be mastered through thorough thought, though.
lydia smith
Yeah, English sucks.
richie mcginniss
Through thorough thought, though.
Through thorough thought, though.
tim pool
You wanna hear the funniest sentence ever?
unidentified
Buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, buffalo.
tim pool
I think there's probably a longer version of that too.
Yeah, I think so.
What that really means is... You lost me at Buffalo.
So here's what I said.
@dontwalkrun
And you know Arabic.
tim pool
The buffalo animal from Buffalo, New York is bullying another buffalo from Buffalo, New York.
That's what the sentence means.
ian crossland
Buffalo is the bully?
tim pool
Yeah, it's a verb.
So if you said Buffalo, Buffalo.
richie mcginniss
Oh, I didn't know Buffalo.
tim pool
It would be like saying Chicago.
richie mcginniss
My mom's from Buffalo, so I should know.
tim pool
Chicago, uh, Chicago Masons punched, you know, New York plumbers.
But if, you know, so Buffalo, Buffalo.
Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo.
ian crossland
Just to clarify, you are fluent in Arabic?
richie mcginniss
I mean it was, I'm not, Arabic is weird because A, the spoken language varies so much across region, so like Moroccan Arabic.
Like a Saudi and a Moroccan would be better off speaking English to each other if they both spoke English decently well because it's just like, it's way different.
And so you learn Fusha which is like, Basically modern standard written Arabic and then you go to learn it And so I studied that for two and a half years five days a week for three years And then I went to Jordan and the people if you speak that Standard Arabic laugh at you like in your face.
So you have to learn then the spoken version.
It'd be like learning Shakespearean English and then going up like Harlem or like Alabama and And being like, where to should I get, you know, and then they just laugh at you.
So you, it's my Jordanian colloquial.
I can have, yeah, I can carry a conversation with a Jordanian, no prior a Palestinian.
tim pool
But not Egypt.
richie mcginniss
Sure.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
But it doesn't work in Egypt.
richie mcginniss
Oh, I said what in colloquial Jordanian?
No, so Egyptian, their accent's weird.
Like, they pronounce all their juh, guh.
So, if I were to say, like, University of Georgetown, Jamia Georgetown, they'd say Gamia Gordtown.
It's, like, really weird.
So, when you hear it, unless you're comfortable listening to it and speaking it, but Egyptian is, all their news is in that dialect.
So, actually, with Egyptian, it's easy for me to understand it, but I can never communicate.
tim pool
What about Morocco?
richie mcginniss
Morocco is completely impossible.
It's like French, Spanish, Arabic, all combined.
And if I hear a Moroccan speaking Arabic, I have to ask him like, you know, a million different times to repeat the word.
And it's all pronounced differently.
tim pool
But you could understand an Egyptian.
richie mcginniss
Yeah.
tim pool
So how far west can you get before it starts breaking down and becomes harder to understand?
richie mcginniss
Like basically Egypt.
Because like once you get to Libya, Tunisia, there's a lot of French influence and it starts to get weird.
tim pool
yeah in chile they would say their s is like so like yeah in chile um i think it was because they did in catalonia is that because the one of the leaders had a uh lisp that's the legend yeah the catalan king had a lisp so everyone wanted to sound like him because it was like proper so they said In South America, in Uruguay, for instance, or Uruguay, as they pronounce it, Uruguay, they say sha instead of ya.
So I had a friend who spoke Spanish, but it was Uruguayan.
And so when she was teaching me Spanish, it was improper dialect for Mexican Spanish.
richie mcginniss
Como te llamas.
tim pool
So she would say ayudame instead of ayudame.
richie mcginniss
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Is that how it is in Arabic too?
Because the old leaders?
richie mcginniss
Yeah, see, but and then with Arabic, it's like five different letters they could pronounce differently.
So I was just makes it super weird.
tim pool
I was doing nonprofit fundraising.
And when you're out in the street in Chicago, and you're like waving to people, you say like, You know, hey, would you, you know, like donate or whatever, you talk to people.
And then every so often you bump into someone who speaks Spanish, they say, oh, no, no, no, no English.
You speak Spanish?
No, no, no.
And so then my friend was like, just say, help the children of San Pedro.
And then I was like, you got it.
And then I remember one day there was like this little, like this little like Mexican woman walking down.
And I was like, I was like, hello, do you want to talk to me?
And she was like, no, no English.
And I was like, my friend, help the children of San Pedro.
And she went, Oh, and I was like, and she went, oh, no, no, no.
And she, when you're a person that she handed me five bucks.
Yeah.
ian crossland
What was the, what is that?
tim pool
It's the place where they're help, help the children, uh, help the children who have nothing.
ian crossland
Oh my God.
tim pool
Something like that.
I'm not fluent.
richie mcginniss
Wait, what was the last word?
tim pool
Or something.
richie mcginniss
I don't know.
@dontwalkrun
So she handed you five bucks, but you were trying to get, it was like the subscription
thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
So it was like completely ineffective, but I was just like, okay, did you take the five
ian crossland
bucks?
tim pool
Well, we were allowed to take cash as well.
And what happens is when you sign someone on unemployed.
richie mcginniss
There you go.
tim pool
Is that what it means?
Unemployed.
ian crossland
Help the children unemployed.
richie mcginniss
Baratos means unemployed.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
So without employment.
That's what it says here.
But at this company, when someone signs up, you multiply that by 7.
So if someone says, I'll give you $10 per month, it counts as $70 brought in for the day.
So if they give you $5, it's $5.
@dontwalkrun
And how much would you make from that?
tim pool
35%.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, it was like a commission.
tim pool
Oh, I made fucking insane cash.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because here's what would happen.
I would come back with $300 in monthly contributions.
They would multiply it by seven.
That's $2,100 and then I would get 35% so they'd tack on $650 to my paycheck for one day's work.
$1,100 and then I would get 35% so they tack on 650 to my paycheck for one day's work
Oh, and I'm like, but I didn't bring in like they only And they said, the average contribution is $17.
This was back in 2008.
And the average person gives for seven months.
So we multiply all contributions, monthly contributions by seven.
If you choose to take a one-time contribution, by all means, if you can convince someone to give you $300 right now, we would rather have someone give us $25 a month because you're more likely to get them for a long time.
richie mcginniss
So we're wondering why the economy collapsed in 2008.
It was because Tim was, you know, basically all these people were like, wait, I just got roped into the, where'd my money go?
@dontwalkrun
It's like a Netflix subscription, you forget about it, you forget how you're paying.
tim pool
This was a job where people struggled to make minimum wage and were fired all the time because they couldn't make quota.
Me and my friends, they were like, you have to go out for eight hours, you get a location to go to, then at the end of the day, you come back.
You know, me and my two other friends, we'd go out, we'd go, Meet back, we'd be at like State in, uh, I don't know, fucking State and Lake or something in Chicago.
And we'd get off the train and then we'd be like, all right, we'll meet back here in 15.
Like, all right.
We would split up and then 15 minutes later, come back and be like, okay, I got three signups.
Like, yeah, I got four.
It's like, I got two, but it's good enough for the day.
And then we would go home and play video games.
And then at five o'clock, get on the train, go back to work and be like, we were able to sign up three people.
Yeah, two people.
And they were like, that's really good.
Cause you needed to get an equivalent of $17 in monthly subscriptions per day for quota.
And we would, we would just like in 10 minutes, I'd get someone to sign up for 25 bucks.
ian crossland
What time of day would you go out?
tim pool
9am.
ian crossland
Before work when they were going into work in the loop?
tim pool
Yeah.
So you're, you're, but you're there all day.
So during lunch, and so we would go on top of the Marina city towers, you know, the Marina city towers.
unidentified
Where's that?
tim pool
Those are those big, those big cylindrical right off the river.
unidentified
And they have, they look, they're like, Oh, the ones in the, on the Wilco album cover.
tim pool
Yeah.
So we would, we would do is we would hang out at the bottom first floor where the elevator was, and we would just like stand there talking.
And then as soon as someone walked out, we then walk in the building, take the elevator up to the roof and just chill on the roof and just shoot the shit.
And just, this is like iPhones weren't around.
And we do nothing.
richie mcginniss
Back in the glory days.
tim pool
And then it's funny because like one day, you know, one of my one friend would be like, he's like, man, now I need to make money because I want to buy, you know, like a PlayStation or something.
So I'm like, okay.
So then he would actually do the full eight hours and he'd come back with like $1,500 in monthly signups.
And then like, he's going to get hundreds of dollars off of, off of that just for that one day's work.
And he's like, yeah, I got enough for the PlayStation.
I'm good.
So as long as we, it was like rent was paid.
richie mcginniss
So are they hiring?
@dontwalkrun
And they're the worst people on the planet.
tim pool
They're awful.
And that's why I quit, because when I found out that they were lying, and the information they were giving us was bad, I was like, bro, I thought I was good at something good.
ian crossland
Weren't they encouraging you to lie to people?
tim pool
After I found out they were publishing lies, and I said, hey, I can't say this, this is not true, they were like, just say it anyway.
And I was like, okay, I thought I came here To be good at something that was doing good.
And then I found out that it was just complete bullshit.
And it was, it was, in my opinion, it's all a racket.
@dontwalkrun
And once you find out like, because you were getting a 35% commission.
Imagine what they were getting.
Like, imagine $100 comes in and it's only like $5 that actually goes to the charity.
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
No, no, no.
All of it went to the charity.
richie mcginniss
Was it the Clinton Foundation?
unidentified
Were you working for the Clinton Foundation?
@dontwalkrun
$5 actually helps people.
It's all like administrators.
richie mcginniss
No, no, no.
tim pool
What the nonprofits do is called outreach.
So 100% they say 95% of all money that comes in goes towards the cause.
And people go, wow!
richie mcginniss
And the CEO is like, I'm the cause.
Exactly.
tim pool
It was a 501c4, not a 501c3.
So it was a political organization.
Exactly. It was a 501c4, not a 501c3. So it was a political organization. And they said,
if anyone asks, our official rating is 90% charitable, 10% administrative,
which is a really, really good number.
And so we would tell people, like, you give me 10 bucks, we have to put $1 towards administrative.
And if people get mad about that, explain to them, like, we gotta buy paper, don't we?
We gotta pay for the electric bill.
And they go, oh, okay.
The 90% was me.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, caviar's not administrative.
tim pool
You, as the person on the ground, telling people that there were political crises was the charity.
Get it?
The argument was- Oh, I get it.
When you raise money from someone, that money is to pay you to keep raising money for people.
richie mcginniss
Yeah, I get it, but- But it's because- Seems like a pun.
unidentified
Yeah, yes.
Yeah, it does.
tim pool
But the idea was telling people on the street.
This is what they said to us.
I asked them, I was like, what's the charitable?
And they said, it's you guys.
And I was like, we're the nonprofit?
They're like, yes.
Don't you get it?
Every day you go out, you're informing people who otherwise didn't know that there was an environmental crisis.
And I was like, okay, but it sounds like we're fundraising.
They're like, you're informing people, right?
I was like, yes.
And they were like, you deserve to be paid for informing people, right?
I was like, yes.
And they're like, well, there you go.
richie mcginniss
Dude, that is the Clinton Foundation.
It's like, what are you doing?
Oh, just give us this money and we're gonna help all these struggling countries.
And you're like, okay, so you got all the money and now what's happening?
It's like, you are it.
You're a struggling country now.
Like we got all the money.
tim pool
Me telling you the problem was the advocacy.
But so what happened was there was internal politics that made me not want to work there.
And then when I came back to a different branch in a different state, they had us lie about Deepwater Horizon.
And what happened was I was out talking to some guy in California and I said, this just happened.
The Deepwater Horizon spill is serious.
And so we're trying to generate advocacy, make sure people know what's happening.
And then the guy looks at it and he goes, this is not true.
And I was like, what's not true?
It's like the amount of gallons that you're saying spilled.
It's substantial.
It's like a 10th of that.
And then I was like, oh my bad, I didn't realize it.
Are you out here fucking lying to me to make money?
And then I was like, dude, I just work for a non-profit.
This is the stuff they give us.
And he's like, maybe you should do some fucking research before you go tell people to give you money for a cause it's fake.
And then I was like, fair point, dude.
And I took it out of the binder and I fold it up and I was like, I won't bring that up again.
And he was like, you shouldn't.
And he walks away.
I immediately called the office and I was like, hey, this is, I like, So I had, I can't remember, this was 2010 or whatever.
Phone, internet.
And I was like, no shit.
Like, check web browser, like, the number's wrong.
And then they were like, don't worry about it, just finish out the day and then we'll figure it out.
And I was like, dude, I'm not going to lie to people for money that's fraud.
And they were like, no, no, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine, just keep going.
And I was like, no.
And if you want me to read this, I'm gonna come back with no signups.
And they were like, you have to make quota.
richie mcginniss
Then they hired Don Lemon and Joe Scarborough to take your place.
tim pool
We were outside.
richie mcginniss
They were willing to do it.
tim pool
I was outside the CNN building.
I was literally across the street from CNN.
It's right by Amoeba Music in Los Angeles.
You guys know where that is?
ian crossland
Oh yeah, yeah.
Was that in Sunset?
Sunset, yeah.
tim pool
I was right across the street.
There's like a cafe, kiddie corner.
ian crossland
I love that area.
That's where Theater of Note is.
tim pool
All right, we've gone a little long, so we're going to wrap it up there.
Richie, it's been a blast.
richie mcginniss
Thank you for having me.
I look forward to burning rubber sometime in the near future.
tim pool
That's right.
And for everybody who's a member, thanks for supporting our work, making it possible.
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