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Sunday Uncensored: Rick Santorum & Mark Meckler: Pelosi Trip To Taiwan Sparks World War Three Fears

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tim pool
So we have this story from TimCast.com.
Illinois Bakery told they can no longer hold events after planning kid-friendly drag show.
Not just that, they might actually lose their liquor and business license if they continue to host events that do not have proper zoning.
So this is the funny thing.
It's like a zoning issue, not even an issue of having a sexual performance for children.
I want to make one point before we get into the story.
We also have another story I want to talk about.
This transgender male cheerleader who choked out a 17-year-old teenage female.
I have media matters coming after me.
Because I did a segment where I said, clearly, not all gay people are groomers.
There's an organization called Gays Against Groomers.
So why is it that these media outlets are desperately trying to claim the phrase groomer refers to all gay people?
Proving my point, they came after my video where I said, not all gays are groomers, accusing me of insulting all gay people.
And I especially said, I have to wonder about the author of that article for doing this.
She must have some inclination in support of pedophilia or be pedophile adjacent or a pedophile herself.
They got really pissed off about that.
But in my video I basically made it simple.
Drag shows are sexual performances.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
There's no question about it.
Grooming is when you introduce an overt sexual concept but at the minimal level.
Meaning, a stripper showing up to a child but not stripping would be the introduction of grooming.
You want to introduce something light to the child or to the person and then slowly introduce, groom them into it.
This is what child drag shows are doing.
So to see something like this, there's some pushback.
However, it doesn't seem like... Oh, the power went out.
rick santorum
There we go.
tim pool
Hey, that was cool!
mark meckler
Exciting!
tim pool
So we have backup batteries, so nothing went down but the lights.
mark meckler
Yeah, that was cool.
tim pool
Yeah, so when the beeping happened, we actually have these larger batteries that we switch over to.
We need to do a protocol for that because I don't know which plug to switch to.
But, uh, I don't know.
I'm assuming everything's still working, right?
Anyway, I was talking about what?
Oh, yeah.
It's a zoning issue.
It's like no one's even going after them for trying to do these performances for kids.
And the media has actually been defending it.
So we talked in the main show about schools and education.
You have a book about it takes a family.
This is them targeting your family with the most egregious, you know, acts possible.
What are your thoughts?
Curious, you know.
mark meckler
I mean, to be very blunt, this is the face of evil in American society at its most base, targeting children with bizarre sexual stuff.
It undermines society.
It undermines the family.
That's the intent.
It is grooming.
I think the reason they get so upset when you talk about grooming is because you are dead square over the target.
So you've identified it.
You're shaming it in public.
I think there's a really important thing in our society that we're, we've really messed up, which is the idea of shame.
Culture, very simply put, is what any group shames and honors.
And we flipped it upside down.
We used to honor the things that were honorable.
Bravery, courage, standing up for your family, being a father and a mother, having children.
These are the honorable things.
Living what I would describe as a basic, normal life.
Those are the things that were honored.
Today, those are things that are shamed.
unidentified
You know, to go back, can I put out one additional thing?
rick santorum
I agree with everything Mark said, but one of the things that's missing in all this is that parents take their kids to these things.
tim pool
That's right.
rick santorum
Okay.
So you can blame the bakery and I do, and Mark's absolutely right.
What the heck with these moms and dads who are grooming their own children?
tim pool
Did you ever see this coming?
I mean, you were- Yeah, absolutely.
Senator 07 to 12?
rick santorum
Yeah, I showed you the clip of Tony Soprano, right?
Right.
So yeah, I wrote about it.
I talked about it.
Everyone should look that clip up.
I was one of the guys who said, you start down this path and here's where we're going.
unidentified
And they were like, you're just an evil Christian.
rick santorum
You're a hater, you're a radical, you're a fear monger.
I mean, I proposed an amendment to codify in the Constitution what marriage is, and the biggest argument against it, this was 2004, this was before Burgerfeld.
The biggest argument, guess what?
It's unnecessary.
It'll never change.
Just a few rogue states doing this.
The reality is you head down this road of redefining everything, right?
And there is no end to this.
tim pool
I'm gonna try and play this.
unidentified
Don't forget.
rick santorum
You're just playing one piece of it.
unidentified
I agree with that senatorial.
He says, if we let this stuff go too far, pretty soon we'll be fucking dogs.
tim pool
He says, I agree with that Senator Sanatorium who says, if we let this go too far, pretty soon we'll be fucking dogs.
hannah claire brimelow
That was your most famous quote.
rick santorum
I think that was a quote, yeah, that's exactly what I said.
unidentified
You were on the debate stage and you said, listen, maybe we let this go too far.
And some writer was like, this is amazing.
rick santorum
Yeah so I didn't say that and and in fact I said just the opposite of that but the reality is when you stand up to uh to the to the cultural left they will destroy you and and and they tried uh they tried to destroy me when I was uh back in uh in the early 2000s when uh look I'd always been One of the pro-life leaders in Congress and, you know, did the partial birth abortion bill and a whole lot of other bills that actually actually did pass the Congress and we won Supreme Court cases.
And then, you know, I got engaged with with these.
What I saw is an issue of trying to fundamentally destabilize the family and go after the church at the same time.
Because you're going after marriage.
You're going after something that Christian and Jewish churches, in my Catholic, it's a sacrament.
It's something that we're not going to back away from.
And so yet, so it's not just going after the family.
It's going after religious liberty at the same time.
And I called the whistle on it.
And well, all you do is Google my name and you'll see what they did.
hannah claire brimelow
But I think when you say like how can parents bring their kids here we forget that these are people who already identify as liberal or on the left and that culture tells you having kids is bad.
So in some ways they're being said, they're being discouraged from being parents anyways.
They think you should spend more time at places like this and you should bring your kids with you because really it's better to introduce your kids now and you should have these conversations and You know, ultimately... There is no right or wrong.
rick santorum
You just do, you know, you just experience everything.
If you're not celebrating everyone's choices... I mean, these are people who tell their children, you know, whatever you think is best.
Where did that come from?
Who thought a four-year-old could make a decision as to what's best for them?
unidentified
About anything.
tim pool
Why don't we give 12-year-olds breast implants?
But if a 12-year-old wants to have her... Yeah, she wants to remove the breasts.
Right.
rick santorum
That's okay.
tim pool
Have you seen this meme?
This is an old meme from back in your political days.
What will happen if gay marriage is legalized?
The whole diagram is gay people will get married.
And then there's another color, a third world war will break out, not included.
Various plagues, not included.
Schools will begin teaching kids how to have gay sex, not included.
The terrorists will win, not included.
And the funny thing about this meme is it aged very poorly.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, especially what's supposed to be in green.
I've covered a couple different school districts for the site who have specific requirements that by certain ages, you know, third grade, you have to have this understanding of sexual contact.
You have this understanding of sodomy.
rick santorum
And I said that, I said, you know, how will my marriage affect you?
Well, the answer is one heck of a lot because, and that's why I said, you're not going to stop with just allowing us to do our private thing.
You're going to force everyone to accept, and you're going to change everything.
And you're, and then follow on down the line of everything else that we've seen with, with the LGBTQ expanding, uh, alphabet and symbols.
Uh, that's all derived from the idea that we can redefine everything.
tim pool
I think the end result is a system without definition.
So, you know, my attitude is... Growing up in Chicago... Like what as a woman?
Well, my family and I were very in favor of gay marriage.
But the idea is, in the privacy of your own home, with who you love, you mind your own business, but you get equal rights.
And there were sad stories where there would be, you know, two individuals who love each other, could not visit each other in hospitals.
It's like, I don't care if you're best friends or brothers, like it kind of sucks.
But it's two guys that they spend their lives together and they can't be there with, you know.
rick santorum
And there are ways to handle that without changing the fundamental definition of a foundational element of society.
tim pool
Which is the main issue where I see this going to a total collapse.
And the reason is in New York, for instance, 31 genders are protected under their human rights law.
rick santorum
That's discriminatory to the 32nd gender!
tim pool
Well, it's not.
It's because the law actually has no limit.
They define gender expression, which is protected as self-expression.
Which means anything you want.
Here's the best part.
New York City recognizes agender as a protected class.
Agender, of course, means not having a gender.
The bathrooms in New York, we went to the zoo, New York City Central Park Zoo.
The bathroom said all gender restroom.
And I just simply said, where's the no gender bathroom?
But it's funny, right?
But it is in their law that there must be a bathroom for every identity.
And lacking gender is not all gender.
So if they say this one's for all of them, okay, but what about the people who don't have one?
Well, now they're not.
So this is the issue.
So I was talking to a lawyer.
I called a human rights lawyer and asked him about this in New York.
And I said, The city defines gender identity as self-expression, and it says you can't be discriminated based on the clothes you wear or what your name is.
That's for obvious reasons, right?
If it's a male individual and they call themselves Janet Weardress, your clothing and your name cannot be used to discriminate against you.
What if it's a person who dresses up like a wolf and calls themselves Valsiferon, Herald of the Winter Mist?
Can they be denied a job because they want to wear a full fursuit, you know, costume?
And the lawyer said it won't pass the laugh test.
You go to a judge and say... Today.
unidentified
No, well, here's my point.
tim pool
He said, you go to a judge and tell them that you're transgender.
We understand what transgender is in the spirit of the law.
You will be protected.
You try to claim you're, what do you say, vociferon?
They're going to laugh and say, excuse me.
And then I said, so the judge has the discretion to laugh at a person they find absurd.
And he was like, well, yes.
And I said, what if the judge finds a man just as a woman as absurd?
And then he was like, well, I suppose he could.
And I'm like, right.
So the issue is, You might argue culturally a judge will not allow Vulciferon to be a protected class, to have this job, but really once a judge just decides it, it will happen.
It will.
hannah claire brimelow
Have you been following the stuff that's going on with the USDA?
There are like 20 attorney generals that have sued because they rolled out this like school lunch line and they were like, Except we're gonna say that LGBT and transgender are protected under the sex-based discrimination, and they're like, you're unfairly expanding Title IX.
What are you doing?
And I don't know if the USDA has responded yet, but it's all supposed to be part of Biden's let's protect everybody policies that he started as soon as he got into office.
mark meckler
Well, and again, I would argue to bring it full circle.
This is the reason to take the power away from the federal government, right?
I mean, if they have the power, this human humans have power, they exercise power without restraint.
And so the only way we restrain them is we take that power away.
tim pool
I want to jump to this other story as well, because we've kind of got... What I do find fascinating is that we often talk about, you know, the old 10 years ago, 15 years ago, the slippery slope arguments that were coming up around gay marriage, and now we actually have Rick Santorum, who was very much there for those fights.
We have the story from TimCast.com.
hannah claire brimelow
You look like you're having flashbacks right now.
rick santorum
People say you started those fights and I said, no, I didn't start any of these fights.
I mean, it's the idea that, you know, Republicans are culture warriors.
No, no, no.
We didn't change the culture.
The other side changed the culture.
And all we're saying is.
The idea that you can go, I always use this example of if you want to change the ecology of, affect the ecology of a swamp by building a bridge over a swamp.
You have to file tens of thousands of papers and reports of how this disruption of the ecology of the swamp is going to affect every creature in it.
Yet we can uproot the moral ecology of this country And have not a single study, not a single report, not a debate.
And this happened because a few judges decided to do this.
And then all of a sudden, the national media and everybody got behind it.
And within four or five years, we went from one state doing it to it became a constitutional right.
The idea that we are going to completely upset 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 years of human moral ecology and just because someone wants it to be that way is insane.
It's just an insane thing and now we're seeing the consequences of it.
tim pool
Well we have this story here from Timcast.
Transgender cheerleader cited for criminal assault after choking out female teammate.
I mean that's a story a 25 year old male Uh, apparently choked out a 17 year old female.
The crazy thing about this is that the trans individual then followed them into the bathroom and there's a video of these young women locking themselves in a stall saying like, basically, get away from us, get out.
You're a man, you have a penis, things like this.
rick santorum
No one saw that coming.
tim pool
I mean, to be honest, who didn't?
rick santorum
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, people may have had questions about a slippery slope.
And there were points being made like, they're going to start teaching our kids in schools about this stuff.
And the left said, and they said it to me, no, that's never going to happen.
I actually did campaign work for these organizations back in, I think it was 2010.
And they said, that's insane.
It's a right-wing talking point.
It's never going to happen.
Now we have books in school libraries showing lesbians having sex with each other.
Or I guess you can't call it that.
rick santorum
To first graders.
tim pool
To first graders.
So that literally happened, but no one thought we'd get to the point where you'd have biological males taking cross-sex hormones, attacking teenage girls.
No one could have seen that coming.
mark meckler
Well, and now it's much worse than just that.
I mean, the story, it shows the problem, but we have prisons where we're taking men and putting them in women's prisons because they identify, quote unquote, as women and shock of shocks, they rape women.
Shock of shocks.
Women are getting pregnant.
rick santorum
I saw that coming.
mark meckler
It's stunning, right?
That a guy in a women's prison is getting women pregnant.
And the left, that's not that they didn't see it coming, they don't even admit that it's happening.
You won't see those stories in the corporate media.
tim pool
Did you see this horrifying story recently?
That male inmates bribed a prison guard who let them into the women's division and all of these men went in and brutally raped all these women.
This is why we separate men and women.
mark meckler
It's called basic biology, right?
So we understand that these things happen.
So we set up systems to prevent them from happening so that men don't victimize women.
And what the left is arguing for now is women basically have no rights.
If you're a woman and women have fought for equal rights for a long period of time, none of that's relevant.
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mark meckler
All of that stuff because you quote unquote identify as a woman.
Again, there's a fundamental question going around.
People make fun of it, but what is a woman, right?
And the left literally can't define what a woman is anymore.
That shows you the absurdity of the position.
rick santorum
The reason it happens is because people who understand and know the truth are cowered into not speaking it.
That's why you get beat up for what you say, and thank God you stand up and you say what you're going to say.
But look, a lot of people don't want to be ostracized, they don't want to be called the B word or the R word.
You pick a word out, they don't want to be vilified.
That's how you lose.
That's how you lose a country.
That's what it comes down to.
Courage.
I mean, people don't have the courage to stand up and speak the truth.
And yes, you will be, you will suffer from speaking the truth sometimes.
Anyone, anyone really not doubt that standing up for the truth and standing up for what's right has consequences, but people are afraid to take those consequences now.
tim pool
Yeah, I gotta tell people, man.
I don't know.
In my experience, standing up and always just staying true to myself is the path to success.
But for a lot of people, they're scared, I guess.
I've taken a lot of risks in my life and not everything has worked out perfectly, but you just keep doing your thing and you keep saying, I refuse to back down.
rick santorum
I'm gonna call you on this one.
Standing true to yourself.
That's great, but yourself has to seek the truth, right?
So you have a lot of people say, oh, I'm for that 25-year-old cheerleader to be there because I'm just standing up for what I believe.
Well, okay.
But is what you believe true?
Is what you believe right?
Have you really done the work to get to the bottom line as to whether it's true or not?
So just stand up for what you believe.
That's not good enough.
You've got to stand up for what's true.
And you have to be able to explain why it's true and why doing this is beneficial to humanity.
Not just the person who may be offended or who wants to Be a wolf.
But how this makes our country and our society a better place.
hannah claire brimelow
I was gonna say, I am a huge fan of the libertarian movement, but one of the disservices I think it did to people in my generations was to tell people, oh, well, it's okay to, you live your life here and they're gonna go live their life over there.
And you just, you pretend like it's not happening.
I think that we forgot that we can just stand there.
We don't have to intervene necessarily.
We don't need to bring government into this, but I don't have to say that I would replicate your lifestyle.
I don't have to say that I believe what you're doing is morally correct.
We forgot that we are allowed to comment.
tim pool
It was supposed to be tolerate.
Tolerate doesn't mean accept.
Tolerance.
rick santorum
But they will never be satisfied with tolerance.
They want affirmation.
tim pool
Child sex change surgeries.
mark meckler
Yeah, and we're required to participate and celebrate.
Way back when in the Stone Ages when I was in law school, I had a blue mohawk.
I know I don't look like a guy with a blue mohawk right now, but I'd walk around with this blue mohawk and I knew that the vast majority of people who were looking at me thought, man, that dude's a freak.
Like, what's he ever going to do with his life?
I knew that.
I'm okay with that.
I had a blue mohawk, right?
But nowadays, we're supposed to look at people who I think are really weird, doing really strange things.
And we're supposed to accept that?
We're not allowed to criticize it?
We're not allowed... Like, I'm fine.
Like, have your blue mohawk or whatever the equivalent is today.
Doesn't mean I'm not gonna say out loud, that's hilarious, that's weird.
I think that's okay.
We're allowed to be critical of each other.
tim pool
You know, I was just thinking, it's like, imagine if you went out advocating for child lobotomies and you were like, you know, we gotta give children lobotomies so they can be happy.
Why let them be sad?
You hate... They're committing suicide if we lobotomize them.
They're gonna say you're crazy, right?
The thing I was just thinking of is, we're at the point now where the left is saying it's not crazy to give children sex changes.
I mean, a few years ago, if you went around advocating for this, they'd probably tell you to shut the fuck up.
Maybe five years ago.
Now it's like, the norm is you must accept child sex change medication, therapies, and surgeries.
How long until we are like, just fucking lobotomize them.
Then they'll be happy forever.
If the issue is, these kids will commit suicide, well then cut their fucking brain out and they won't do it.
Or give them Xanax, I don't know.
Make money for the pharmaceuticals.
rick santorum
Or we have countries, I mean, again, I have a child with disabilities.
We have countries like Iceland saying, we've eliminated Down syndrome.
What does that mean?
That means they've aborted all, it's eugenics.
tim pool
Yeah.
rick santorum
And so, and eugenics is there, it's real, it's coming.
I mean, if you've seen the movie Gattaca before.
Oh yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And it's stupid.
It's terribly short-sighted and stupid.
rick santorum
It's coming.
tim pool
It's coming.
rick santorum
Attica's real.
It's not a movie.
unidentified
It's real.
hannah claire brimelow
You guys heard it here first.
tim pool
The problem with eugenics is that we do not understand the human genome to the extent that we can manipulate it properly.
That's why you need a diverse gene pool You're making a utilitarian argument.
diverse gene pool breeds resilience. But if we go in and start saying, here are the desirable
traits here, the undesirable traits, we don't know what we're eliminating in the long run.
rick santorum
That's it. You're making a utilitarian argument. I'm making a moral argument that engineering
people is, is, is just wrong. No matter whether it has genetic consequences or not.
unidentified
I'm not saying it doesn't.
tim pool
My point is simple is that it's social suicide.
It's genetic suicide.
The idea they have is, I can make my son, daughter better.
And it's like, yeah.
And then in three generations, humanity's like unable to breathe air properly.
rick santorum
These are the same people who would say Hitler was a horrible person because he wanted to create a master race.
What the heck are you doing?
mark meckler
What is better and who's going to decide what's better?
And the answer is, oh, it's your betters.
It's the same people in Washington DC that are doing everything they can to ruin our lives right now.
tim pool
It's gonna turn out they're gonna say, you know that gene we isolated that, you know, made people's hair turn gray, and so we added this thing to make... Turns out that actually makes the pancreas work too, and now they are dying.
Like, we don't understand these things that... There is a correlation between many elements in the human body.
Some are vestigial byproducts.
You're like, okay, we'll get rid of it.
Actually, that was the enzyme that did this.
We're not there.
Maybe, look, maybe we'll come to a point where we've fully mapped out the genome to such a degree that we can eliminate genetic diseases.
And there's a different argument to be like, I don't want someone to have Alzheimer's.
rick santorum
You think these arguments are actually going to stop people from doing it?
unidentified
Of course.
rick santorum
The answer is no.
tim pool
They're going to say, I want my son to be six foot five, super ripped.
and then they're going to buy weird designer manipulations.
Their kids are going to come out and for the first few years it's going to be great and they're
going to have a heart attack at 18.
And they're going to be like, how did this happen?
rick santorum
And that's because, and it goes back to a more fundamental issue, that science has become a
moral free zone. That if science, it's whether you can do it, not whether you should do it.
And we continue to go down that road and you're right.
There will be disastrous consequences, but it's whether we can, not whether we should.
tim pool
You could make a great sci-fi short film, a hundred years in the future, humans all live underground.
What happened?
How did this happen?
Was there an apocalypse?
Like, you know, someone comes out of cryogenic freezing.
It's like, wow, a hundred years, everyone, their skin is pale.
And they're like, well, you know, when humans started getting involved in eugenics, they started eliminating genes that were undesirable and they accidentally got rid of the one that produces melanin.
And now we can't go out in the sun.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not a horrible way to live.
I personally wear a lot of sunblock.
That's not the worst, worst lifestyle.
tim pool
But it's, you know, it's like, it's something like that underground.
They're all blind.
They're all, they're all, you know, blind.
And we didn't realize that that gene was actually an important, you know, building block of, you know, optical nerves.
mark meckler
Well, so all of this is based around the idea that we can understand everything.
And this is the materialistic worldview.
It's not a faith-based worldview.
The reality is, from my perspective, I would say the reality, the truth is, there is a God.
We are created.
We can't understand God.
We don't know the plan.
And it's just hubris to pretend that we can.
It doesn't mean we shouldn't study science.
If you know the history of science, it actually comes from a faith basis.
It's an idea that we should understand the way that God made us and God made the universe.
But this idea that somehow we're in control of all that and we can understand everything, I mean we're these little tiny creatures in the universe.
hannah claire brimelow
What do you think the biggest moral authorities are in today's culture?
Church attendance is famously down.
Where do people look for their moral cues?
Because obviously some people are born with stronger inherent senses of morality.
mark meckler
The Kardashians?
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, that's true.
mark meckler
I mean, social media, right?
And I do, I'm being facetious, but it's actually true.
So people are looking to those kinds of people as moral authority, athletes who say inane, asinine things and saying, well, if that's what they think, then that's the truth.
And so we, this again, going back to the shame and honor in a culture, Like the heroes that people have nowadays, it's unbelievable to me.
I don't understand it.
There's sports figures who have no knowledge of anything in the real world.
They make many, many millions of dollars for bouncing a ball up and down a court or playing football, whatever it is.
But people look at them as the moral authority in society.
That's part of what's broken.
tim pool
Yep.
rick santorum
I look, I think there are some, some great spiritual leaders out there, uh, that are, uh, that are speaking in using this, you know, podcasts and other types of, of, of methodologies to reach out to young people.
And I think you're, there is an underground out there and I believe it's growing.
Uh, you hear all these words works about, you know, worries about, you know, the nuns are increasing, not, not Catholic nuns, but, People don't believe in anything.
And that may be true, but I think we have a society that particularly of young people who have been told so many lies that make no sense to them and make no sense, no sense to any of that.
And they're searching for truth.
They're searching for something that is that, that is deeper, that explains their, uh, their, their inner desire to see the world beyond what it is, this material world of something bigger than that.
I'm one that's counting on a revival coming soon, and I know that's counter to everything we see, but I think it's coming.
tim pool
Well, I got good news for you.
My long-standing hypothesis, or theory, is that the future is going to be very conservative.
The far-left people will be more like me in the future, and then the right will be traditional Christian conservative for one reason.
Well, for a couple reasons.
The left aborts their kids.
They don't have kids, or they abort them.
They sterilize their children.
Not if they control all the institutions of power in the country.
Yes, but the big move for homeschooling is probably panic mode for them.
That's why they're like, don't say gay, Bill.
It's like, well, because the right has figured out where their weakness is.
So I talk about this quite a bit and it'll be my final thought for the segment.
There was a study, I was reading this a couple years ago, in the 2000s they found that Republicans, conservatives had 2.05 kids on average and liberals had like 1.7.
Simple math dictates 18 years from then, you're going to have more conservatives than liberals, right?
Sure enough, Pew Research showed that Gen Z ticked slightly more conservative than liberal for the first time in 100 years.
A younger generation was a teeny bit more conservative, still very progressive, comparable to millennials, but a tiny bit more conservative than millennials.
So that flipped the whole thing, because since we've been tracking generations, it's been conservative moving to liberal, and now it went slightly back.
Why?
A lot of people thought it was because Gen Z is based, that they've realized the truth and they've been red-pilled.
No.
It's because there's more of them.
That's it.
So if the left is advocating for sterilization of their children, for abortion, these horrible things that y'all have consistently tried to prevent but have seemingly been unable to do so, well, the end result is going to be an ebb and a flow.
They're going to diminish their ideology.
Conservatives are going to start winning in schools.
School choice is a huge thing.
Homeschooling.
mark meckler
And then in 20 years from today, in 40 years from today, You know what, I would add one more thing to that, which is it's not just a cultural phenomenon, it's a human phenomenon.
There's a normal human phenomenon for generations to rebel in some ways culturally against their parents.
It's what adolescents do.
It's what young adults do.
And so when you have a completely woke society, there's going to be a natural pushback.
Young people are going to be like, that's not cool.
You guys are old.
That's stupid stuff.
We don't believe that stuff.
And so I think that ties into what you're saying.
There's going, but there's going to be a broader cultural pushback as well.
tim pool
Yeah, I think we're seeing it too, mostly because it's a cult, man.
The left is just, it's a non-theistic religion and it's extremely dogmatic and it's unfun.
You know, just taking people's movies.
You know, I'll tell you this, you guys, have you heard of Resident Evil?
mark meckler
Yeah.
tim pool
So I love Resident Evil, and when they announced the show, I was like, oh, that's really cool.
And they race swapped one of the characters.
So they cast a black bald man to play a character who's a white blonde guy.
And I don't care about race swapping.
I think acting is acting.
If a white person's gonna play a black person, a black person, a white person, as long as it's not relevant to the core idea of the character.
Like, you can't have the Black Panther played by some white blonde guy.
That's ridiculous, right?
He's from Wakanda.
But what threw me off was I didn't know.
And so when I watched the show and they said Albert Wesker, I was like, okay, well in the video game he's dead.
So I was like, oh, so this must be a plot point.
It's not really him.
And then I realized later on, no, I just didn't realize that they race swapped the character.
And so that's the kind of thing that's pissed off a lot of people.
You know, there's a lot of people who argue Scarlett Johansson was going to play a trans character and then she cancelled the film project because of the backlash.
And it's like, dude, if you're an actor, you're pretending to be someone else.
It's fine.
But now we're in this era where, like, a trans character can only be played by a trans person, a gay character can only be played by a gay person, and it's like, okay, dude, whatever, dude.
I don't care if, you know, a black guy played Albert Wesker.
I just didn't realize it because the character was dead.
I thought they were doing a plot point of like an imposter or something.
So these are the things that kind of happen when you play games like this.
But anyway, my point there is a lot of core fans of these old stories, these old properties, are upset that it's being changed and manipulated without their understanding, and it's pissing people off.
That's creating a big cultural pushback.
But I'll leave it there.
Rick, Mark, it's been a blast.
Thanks so much for hanging out.
rick santorum
Thanks for having us.
tim pool
And for everybody who's a member, you make it all possible.
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