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Timcast IRL - SHENANIGANS As They STILL Haven't Called Kari Lake Victory w/Libby Emmons
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tim pool
so i'm calling shenanigans They still haven't called the race for Carrie Lake?
Yo, last night we were waiting for the primary results out of Arizona.
You guys know that we've had Carrie Lake on the show several times.
She's amazing.
And I saw the polling results as they were coming in, and I was shocked to see that Carrie Lake was down in the polls.
I was like, how is this possible?
Everybody was like, nah, she's gonna win, she's gonna win.
And then I was like, well, what can you do?
Go to bed, wake up, boom!
Carrie Lake in the lead.
80% reporting.
And Carrie Lake and her team, they've declared victory.
Now, analysts are saying, in all likelihood, it really does seem like she can't lose.
She's up around 11,000 or so votes.
And it looks like the remaining votes that are gonna come in aren't going to pull enough for her opponent to win.
But something strange is happening with how it's being handled.
And there is an interesting solution to this conundrum.
Democrats have reportedly been crossing over and voting in the GOP primary.
When you look at the results right now, you can see Maricopa is against Kerry, or I should say it's for Robson, her opponent.
And that's the dense Democrat area.
If they're coming out and voting in the GOP primary, that's what you would see.
So we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about what's going on and why they haven't called the race yet for Carrie Lake.
And then we got, I guess, in international news, Russia says they're going to join China if a war breaks out between China and the U.S.
over Taiwan.
China's going to be firing missiles over Taiwan, the first time ever, and surrounding it with live fire drills and military ships.
You know, I really do think that it's possible.
I think it's probable Nancy Pelosi went to Taiwan because they expect Taiwan to fall, and fall soon.
So we'll talk about that.
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Joining us today to talk about all this, we got Libby!
Libby's back.
libby emmons
Hey, I'm back.
I'm Libby Emmons, I'm Editor-in-Chief with the Postmillennial.
Glad to be here.
tim pool
Right on.
And we got Hannah Clare.
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
ian crossland
Hey everyone, Ian Crossland here, iancrossland.net.
Happy to be here.
tim pool
Lydia is not with us today because she's on vacation.
ian crossland
And I'm Chris.
tim pool
Filling in for Lydia.
ian crossland
Nice jacket.
tim pool
That was the fastest we've ever done introductions on this show.
ian crossland
I just want to talk about Nancy Pelosi.
tim pool
Oh, Nancy Pelosi.
No, we're gonna talk about Carrie Lake first.
unidentified
Oh, good.
tim pool
Alright, we have this story from Axios Phoenix.
Lake declares victory in Arizona GOP primary, says outstanding ballots will favor her.
With at least 150,000 votes left to count, Carrie Lake declared victory Wednesday in the Republican primary for governor, while rival Karen Taylor-Robson stayed mum throughout the day.
Lake led Robson by less than two percentage points as of Wednesday morning, but the remaining
ballots which are largely early ballots that were dropped off at polling places on election
day are expected to expand her lead.
Okay, I say the AP hasn't called the race yet, but look, even though they're early ballots,
they're still saying it's likely going to be for Carrie Lake.
But let me show you this.
Let me see if I have the maps here.
Check this out.
Did we just get an update?
I think we just got an update, literally.
No, maybe it's a graphic.
libby emmons
No, that's still 80%.
It's been 80% since the New York Times.
They've been calling it 80% all day.
tim pool
Yeah, take a look at this.
Right here we can see Taylor Robson in Maricopa.
She's got it, but the rest of the state is for Carrie Lake.
How is it this close?
I think there's a simple answer.
Democrats are voting as Republicans in the Republican primary.
libby emmons
It's certainly possible.
I mean, why not do a crossover?
ian crossland
But then they're not going to be able to vote Democrat in the Democratic primary?
libby emmons
Well, the Democrat primary was today, too.
And if you scroll up, if you look at the Democrat primary, what is it?
Katie Hobbs?
Yeah.
Katie Hobbs had all of the state except for, was it Santa Cruz County there at the bottom?
tim pool
Santa Cruz County.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's it.
So it's not like there was a big contentious race on the Democrat side.
It's almost you were gonna.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's a question of like if they think it's more effective to try and put a more extreme candidate in office.
We've all talked about this.
They think that they can beat Carrie Lake later.
You know, it's a better gamble to Vote in the Republican primary, I guess.
I mean, not all states have open primaries like this, and some, if you're registered as a Democrat, you can only participate in the Democratic primary.
libby emmons
That's true in New York, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It's true in New York, it's true in Connecticut.
Nevada, I think, is changing this law and the idea because they're talking about like a rank choice instead.
libby emmons
Rank choice voting, yeah, we have rank choice voting in New York, in New York City, but you can still only vote in your designated party primary.
ian crossland
Oh, interesting.
With these people, if they now, like, are they still registered Democrat while they're voting in the Republican primary?
libby emmons
You have to change your registration, most likely.
ian crossland
Can they do that, like, and then the next day change it back?
Or are they stuck for a year as like a Republican now?
libby emmons
I don't know what the rules are about registering.
That's like such local stuff.
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, there's a huge variety.
libby emmons
Some places you have to be registered for a certain period of time prior to.
ian crossland
Like before you know who the candidates are?
libby emmons
No, they've known who the candidates are for a long time.
Carrie Lake was running for governor starting in January.
So I think you probably could have changed it.
tim pool
It's an open primary in Arizona.
libby emmons
Oh, it's an open primary.
hannah claire brimelow
So even if they're registered as a Democrat, they can participate in the Republican primary.
tim pool
Wow, that's kind of crazy.
libby emmons
That is a little crazy.
tim pool
Maybe we shouldn't allow that.
libby emmons
Yeah, I don't know why you would have that.
hannah claire brimelow
The argument against it is typically that independents can't participate in the primary.
So Nevada has a high proportion of independent voters and they think leaving the closed primary system would be better because they would be able to participate in narrowing down the candidates earlier on.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
Over at the New York Times article, you can see 482,113 votes in the Democratic primary, 637,210 in the Republican party.
But for some reason, it's the Maricopa area that's gone for Karen Taylor Robson and not Carrie Lake.
Maybe it's crossover.
I'm not entirely convinced.
It may just be moderate-leaning Republicans are like, we don't want the MAGA stuff.
So in the cities, they're more moderates.
libby emmons
But are these people going to come out for Pence?
Isn't he talking about making a run now?
tim pool
I don't know about that.
libby emmons
He's the milkiest of the milquetoasts.
tim pool
But I'll add this.
If these numbers are correct, and that 637,000 Republicans came out to vote, Democrats are in serious trouble.
If it's true that Democrats switched over, because we've seen that reported in other instances, then Republicans are going to be blindsided.
How many of these would you need to take away?
You take away 100,000 of these votes, and then all of a sudden the Democrats are winning.
Yeah.
I don't believe that 100,000 people came out and were Democrats voting to sabotage Carrie Lake.
It's possible.
I think it's probably just simply put, urban conservative types are middle of the road.
libby emmons
I still find it hard to believe.
And we might have seen, like, the, you know, Arizona Democratic Party making the suggestion.
People aren't good at keeping these kind of secrets.
So if it was a suggestion, we would have seen it on social media already.
tim pool
I mean, look, Meghan McCain's got fans, and she was ripping into Carrie Lake.
hannah claire brimelow
She was so mad about it.
But the other thing is that I polled the Real Clear Politics poll numbers.
I mean, Carrie Lake has been popular.
She has been leading the polls for several weeks at this point.
So in some ways, You know, maybe people did cross over.
And on the other hand, you would assume there'd be some indication that she is maybe more popular than Arizona is willing to admit to itself.
tim pool
Well, that makes sense.
I mean, if they're polling people, you get a phone call and you're like, who are you voting for?
Someone who hates Carrie Lake is going to be like, not Carrie Lake.
But someone who's crossing over to sabotage Carrie Lake will contribute to a vote against her.
So, you know, if they get called up, it's a Democrat.
Are you voting for Karen Taylor Robson?
They're going to say, no way.
But they do vote in the primary to sabotage Carrie Lake.
ian crossland
I bet someone could be, I'm a registered Democrat, but I'm going to vote in the Republican primary for the crappier candidate, and then I'm going to switch back and vote for the Democrat in general.
libby emmons
But this is an open primary.
tim pool
Take a look at this story.
libby emmons
So I guess, if it's an open primary, can you show up and say you want one ballot instead of another?
Or is everybody on the same ballot?
tim pool
I don't know.
That would be weird.
libby emmons
How would they prevent you from voting twice?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
It could explain why a bunch of other... Well, here's the other issue, too.
Now, this is the weird thing.
People are pointing out, like, it's very strange that Carrie Lake was doing so well in the polls.
What about every other candidate in Arizona?
Look at this.
Blake Masters wins swimmingly.
So all of these Trump-endorsed candidates sweep through with no questions, but then Carrie Lake is—and it's not just about Arizona, it's like all these states.
Gibbs in Michigan, I think it was Michigan, right?
Trump-endorsed wins, with the help from Democrats, mind you.
libby emmons
A lot of help from Democrats.
That was— That's so weird.
That was so interesting because they were putting in money, Democrats were putting money in to get Gibbs the victory there.
And this is the strategy, this is the strategy I was listening to this podcast today, the New York Times podcast actually, about how Claire McCaskill was the one who really pioneered this strategy of essentially picking the candidate that she wanted to run against And then putting up ads that made that candidate popular to the far right.
So she looked at the spate of candidates in Missouri, decided that she wanted to run against this one guy who seemed crazy, who eventually ended up being the one who said that if a woman is raped, she can shut that down and then not get pregnant.
Remember that guy?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The body has a way of shutting that down.
libby emmons
Right, because of course.
Sure.
You know, every woman knows that.
You've got like a trap door.
hannah claire brimelow
This is basic human biology.
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
tim pool
Guys, you know, for some guys.
libby emmons
Those medieval monks were correct with the teeth.
You know, you can shut it down.
hannah claire brimelow
We were in a different health lesson, I think.
Separated by gender.
tim pool
I did see that movie Teeth.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, God, no.
tim pool
Have you ever seen it?
libby emmons
Actually, in a play that I wrote this one time, one of the characters said... How are we talking about this now?
hannah claire brimelow
Anyway, Carrie Lake made us do this.
libby emmons
This one character, she said, if I had teeth down there, I'd bit his hand off.
tim pool
There's a movie called Teeth and this woman goes to the doctor, to like the gyno, and he's like, let me just check you up.
And then his hand gets mutilated and he's like, vagina dentata!
unidentified
And then she's like, yeah, that's the movie.
tim pool
It's like, I guess a horror movie.
libby emmons
I had a friend who was obsessed with that.
And he also would, that's a totally different story.
Anyways, it was Claire McCaskill.
She went with this thing and she was running ads that was like, you know, this person is really oppositive and she made him really popular to the far right.
And that is a strategy that they used to pump Gibbs.
And also, we all remember when Trump was running against Hillary Clinton and everyone was like, oh, it'll be great if Trump gets the GOP nomination because Hillary Clinton will have no trouble beating him.
This is a stupid maneuver, guys.
Go with your values.
Maybe try and run people you believe in who you think would be positive and good leaders for our country.
hannah claire brimelow
Absolutely not.
libby emmons
No, that's against the rules.
tim pool
November of 2016, one of the greatest years ever, was just seeing the establishment have everything implode.
The panic, the crying.
It was insane.
schadenfreude, but just like, uh, like the most dense, hyper concentrated, straight into
the vein intravenous schadenfreude, watching all these people lose their minds.
libby emmons
I will say I was one of the sad people and I went to Whole Foods.
No.
I went to Fairway.
I went to Fairway in Brooklyn the next day, which is this, like, extremely yuppie grocery store.
And there were people crying, like, sobbing as they were picking out their frozen vegan waffles.
And then Sweet Home Alabama came on, like, over the PA system, and this older woman walked up to, like, one of the people who worked there and said, Now, I really think this is in very poor taste.
Can we at least change this?
hannah claire brimelow
My stepmom has this story about dropping her kids off at Montessori like school or whatever and these moms sobbing and one is like, does someone have a snack to give to Jim?
Like I couldn't pack one this morning.
You're like, girl, get together.
libby emmons
It feels like, you know, you can still feed your kids.
But I remember people calling out of work with with like sadness.
Just calling out.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, going into morning.
It was crazy.
libby emmons
For me, I was having a good time.
Yeah, it was wild.
unidentified
Cassandra Fairbanks was crying.
Yeah.
tim pool
Cassandra was crying, but for the other, she was crying tears of joy.
So, you know, I was hanging out with her and it's just, it's fun to reminisce about some of the greatest days in human history, right?
libby emmons
November 2nd, 2016.
It was the 11th?
tim pool
No, it was the 9th.
unidentified
It was the 9th.
libby emmons
What, when they, what do you mean?
tim pool
November 9th is when Trump won.
libby emmons
Was that when it was?
unidentified
7th?
libby emmons
Wasn't it the 7th?
I thought it was November 9th.
It was early November.
We can agree it was before the 15th.
ian crossland
It was a cold day in hell.
unidentified
What day was it?
hannah claire brimelow
November 8th!
unidentified
8th?!
libby emmons
There we go!
November 8th.
Everybody's wrong.
I'm happy.
tim pool
No, but the 9th was when they called it for him.
hannah claire brimelow
The ninth is when he was officially... They did declare after midnight, so Tim is technically correct here.
tim pool
No, I'm talking about everybody crying.
It's November 9th, the greatest day.
Okay, so I'll take technically correct.
But it reminds me of that meme where the two women go like, and the guy just goes, yeah.
You know what I'm talking about?
There's like two women and they look at something and they're like shocked and the guy just starts laughing and smiling.
That's what it was like.
I didn't vote for him but it was just like to see Hillary Clinton just see everything that she's ever wanted taken from her and she's just an awful person.
libby emmons
It was wild.
tim pool
It was so amazing.
It was euphoria, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I was, it was totally crazy.
I remember how many people around me were just, like, it was completely divided is what I remember.
Even people who weren't that political were suddenly like, I don't know what's gonna happen to the country.
And the people I had no idea were in any way interested in politics also being like, this is the best thing ever!
Like, I had no idea.
tim pool
So bringing it back to where we are now with, you know, like Kerry Lake and all that stuff, now I'm just like, okay, look, you know, I voted for Trump in 2020.
I think school choice was really, really important.
He was all about it.
And looking now at Arizona with Kerry Lake, the possibility is that the whole system is just, is completely imploded.
Yeah.
So look, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution wrote, Democrats are voting in GOP primaries, say it's all about Donald Trump.
This article talks about how, what is it, 16,000 voters who chose Democratic ballots were among the 237 who voted in the GOP primary.
Now it's possible, I argued, they just switched parties.
They've abandoned the Democrats.
That's a reality, right?
Maybe what we're seeing in Arizona is that tons of Democrats are like, I don't want the Democrats, I don't want the MAGA, and so they are legitimately trying to vote Republican, and it's just more left-leaning people joining the Republican Party.
The same time, Democrats are funding Trump-supported, Trump-endorsed candidates, so the Democratic officials are propping up Trump's endorsed candidates, while the voters are voting for the other moderate Republican candidate, or whatever they want to call him.
It's just, the whole system is busted.
libby emmons
Oh, we watched it.
No, go ahead.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, it's just something.
Larry Hogan got really mad about this, too.
He was like, Democrats are fun.
I mean, it was like, what?
One point.
It was like over a million dollars.
tim pool
One point two million or something.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
They got funded in.
And he was like, this is Democrat interference in our election.
Like, this this is not good.
And I don't.
Well, we did watch them change the rules, right?
Even if the strategy is, you could argue, what got Donald Trump elected, which I don't think it is,
but it played a role in some ways, it's not working for them.
I don't understand why you would keep doing it.
libby emmons
Well, we did watch them change the rules, right?
Like, it was after the 2016 election.
And we watched everyone freak out because Trump had won and decide that this was a huge crisis
and that now it didn't matter what you did so long as you Remember resist?
And it was like, I remember watching that and I was like, resist what though, you guys?
Like, what is it that we are going to resist?
Or like with Obama, change.
Well, what do you want to change, really?
And what do you want to change it to?
Like, define your terms so that we can actually talk about what's going on.
But with the whole resist thing, it was anything Trump did was completely wrong and had to be stopped at all costs.
Remember that?
And they proceeded that way through now.
ian crossland
I had friends tell me that using violent fascist tendencies against your enemy, Trump, for whatever, was fine.
I'm like, dude, that's insane.
You cannot take on evil and become evil to destroy evil.
libby emmons
You're just creating more of it.
But that's the decision that was made, was that this is a crisis.
Rules don't matter.
Common decency doesn't matter.
We have to give up the ways that we've behaved up to this point.
That was what they did.
tim pool
I'm just so tired of all the people that cried when Donald Trump won.
Those are the people that I'm just, I am sick of.
And you know, like Tucker Carlson pointed out, when I think it was Ben Smith asked if he was racist.
libby emmons
That was a great interview.
tim pool
Yeah, he was like, the people that I don't like are like middle-aged white liberal women.
libby emmons
He blamed them for everything.
tim pool
Yeah, he's like, that's the one matter, that's not race.
They are an overwhelmingly large bloc of Democrat voters.
So you look at this group, they're crying.
They have no idea what they're crying about.
Oh, the mean man said naughty words.
Dude, when you've got murderous dictators, communist regimes, outright fascists, they call Trump a fascist, but come on, he's not.
And they're actually threatening us.
You might want the potty mouth bully guy to go in there and, you know, shove someone around and be like, back off.
libby emmons
That was a thing I liked about Trump, you know.
Trump is, as I've said before, he's the crazy guy on a corner with a knife.
You stay away from him.
You keep your distance.
Your house never gets robbed.
It's okay.
tim pool
It's like all of the buildings on the street are just like vandalized and looted, but there's one really nice one.
libby emmons
Yours is fine.
tim pool
And they're just like, how come no one's robbing this building?
It was a crazy guy on the corner with a knife.
libby emmons
I just keep feeding him steaks.
It's fine.
It works out.
tim pool
One way to keep him out.
Like when he said he was going to nuke Beijing or Moscow, do you remember that?
libby emmons
And you don't know, he might!
He just might!
That's the thing with Biden now, right?
Biden is a dotty old man, and you have absolutely no confidence that he's going to do anything other than the most moderate, conciliatory, weak-ass move.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think he'll just be totally in line.
I mean, I don't mean to kick him while he's down, but like, this guy got COVID after just getting COVID.
unidentified
I don't really think that Biden's up to anything.
hannah claire brimelow
He's like signing executive orders while locked in his bedroom.
He's grounded.
Like, I don't know that...
Sometimes when we talk about Biden, like, will he run for re-election, what I actually think has happened is he's going to forget that he was told he wasn't, so he's going to announce that he is, and they're going to have to be like, he said that he was going to.
tim pool
He's going to forget that he's president, and they're just going to be like, remember when he announced he was running for the Senate while he was running for president?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
And hasn't he called Jill Biden, or his wife, the president at one point?
libby emmons
Kamala Harris, he kept calling her the president.
tim pool
Several times.
And he introduced his sister as his wife.
But the dude's gotta be on some kind of pills.
I bet they're giving him all this crazy IV therapy stuff.
They're putting him in hyperbaric regeneration chambers.
They're like, we must!
But what's gonna happen is, come 2024, he's gonna be like, what am I doing?
And they're like, you're retired.
unidentified
He's like, oh!
tim pool
And then they're gonna walk up, Pete Buttigieg or Newsom, and be like, come on, get in there.
libby emmons
Right.
And then they're gonna, yeah.
tim pool
Or AOC!
ian crossland
Yeah, I hope so.
tim pool
I really hope it's AOC.
libby emmons
She is so dumb though, you guys.
I don't think that she's ignorant.
I think she's, I think she's just not that bright.
ian crossland
Really?
libby emmons
Yeah.
She strikes me as intelligent.
tim pool
She strikes you as intelligent?
libby emmons
Have you ever watched her?
hannah claire brimelow
She puts her glasses on and she looks, she sits up straight.
Like it's good.
It's a good move.
ian crossland
Maybe it's more charisma than intelligence.
libby emmons
She's got moxie.
ian crossland
Yeah, she's so new.
I mean, she says stuff that isn't true.
That's right.
So that's more ignorance, like if she doesn't know stuff.
libby emmons
No, that's stupid.
tim pool
It is.
I think, was it Seamus who said it was a total Chad move when she went on Colbert and just made up stuff about the Civil War?
hannah claire brimelow
No, it was crazy!
tim pool
I mean, that's ballsy.
You know, so the thing about AOC is that I kind of view her similarly to Trump in that it would be, like, chaotic for the deep state.
And I'm down for that.
It's not my preferred candidate.
But if it was AOC versus Trump, I'm kind of like, whoever wins, the bureaucratic state is going to be crying under their pillow tonight.
libby emmons
Who do you think would win?
tim pool
I think Trump would win.
libby emmons
You think Trump would win over AOC?
tim pool
I do think AOC is the Democrats' best choice, like their best bet.
She's got name recognition, she's young, she's got 13 million followers.
Not the most prominent, particularly prominent, but Gavin Newsom, he's like plastic, he's generic.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it's the things they've been saying they don't want.
You know, yeah, he's just like an established white kind of, you know, he's younger than, let's say, Bernie Sanders.
libby emmons
But one thing he definitely has against him is a lot of data to back up why he sucks.
You know, his schools are failing.
His state is failing.
He's an abortion sanctuary state.
hannah claire brimelow
He constantly brings back COVID regulations.
libby emmons
He's an immigrant, an illegal immigrant.
Sanctuary State, right?
Oh, I thought you said he's an immigrant.
No, yeah, I did, but that's because I left out words in the middle.
He's got, yeah, I understand where you're headed.
He messed, he, like, violated all his own COVID restrictions.
Remember those, like, no one's going to forget those dinners at French Laundry.
Come on, guy, really?
Not wearing masks, partying with his friends.
tim pool
I think if AOC were to get elected, her whole thing is like attention, social media, saying whatever.
It would be pure, it would be pandemonium, just insanity in the White House.
They would be coming to her being like, President Ocasio-Cortez, here's the documents on the latest problem that's happening in Afghanistan, and then she's going to say something totally unrelated or irrelevant.
She's going to be like, You know, when we went into Afghanistan in 2005, in Desert Storm, the first time, you had Saddam Hussein, who was working with ISIS, and, you know, that's why I don't think it's a good idea, and they're going to be like, she's just saying random things related to the Middle East conflict, isn't she?
libby emmons
Yeah, either that or she'll just be like, we can't go to war with that country because that would be racist.
tim pool
Wait, I'll take it.
You know, it's like, no more troops in the Middle East, because President AOC says it's settler colonialism.
I'll be like, okay, all right.
Like, no foreign incursions.
I don't care the reason.
I mean, I am kind of worried about that at the federal level.
hannah claire brimelow
And then the first- Become weirdly isolationist, because she's like, no, we just have to leave everyone else alone.
libby emmons
Then the first gentleman will be a guy with a page on Flitwiki, right?
Like, The redhead dude?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Why, he does?
libby emmons
Well, they, I don't know for sure, but remember they were going after his feet when he wore sandals when they went to Florida to flout COVID restrictions and have a good time.
hannah claire brimelow
And her response to that was, you just want to date me?
That was like her red clapback?
libby emmons
Yeah, that was her whole thing.
And it was all like, and her boyfriend was sitting there with gross feet.
tim pool
I'm just imagining she's like sitting down with Kim Jong-un.
And he's like, you know, Kim Jong-un says something about we have to negotiate terms if I'm going to stop these nuclear tests.
And she goes, Stop trying to date me, sir.
And then he's just like, what do I, what do I say?
It's almost as crazy as Trump.
They're like, the Americans have put a crazy person in the White House again.
You don't know what she wants?
hannah claire brimelow
But they couldn't, they can't, now we zag the other way with crazy, like it's a different kind of crazy.
They can't figure that one out either.
tim pool
I mean, that is kind of funny.
It's like, Trump is aggressive, arrogant, kind of crazy.
And she's like, woman kind of crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
Also arrogant, kind of crazy.
tim pool
But like the you want to date me line.
It's like, Trump would never say something like that.
Like, I don't think a dude would be like, If Kim Jong-un was trying to date me, he wouldn't say it.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I also think she knows, like, it's a very awkward thing for most men to respond to.
Like, they can say no, but also, like, why are you making this about romance?
Like, we're professional rivals.
Like, we're in politics.
Like, why are you bringing this up?
Like, it's very strange.
libby emmons
Women can make everything about romance.
ian crossland
He said that girls wanted him to grab them by their genitals.
unidentified
That wasn't romantic, though.
ian crossland
I would love to see Cortez over Trump because of the youth.
It's the youth.
Over Trump?
unidentified
Over Trump.
libby emmons
I said that because you never heard about that.
tim pool
No, that's eros.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's erotic.
Erotic is so.
tim pool
Mr. A-type.
ian crossland
It's love, you know, it's love.
It's trust.
tim pool
Trust.
ian crossland
I'd highly, I would love to see Cortez over Trump because of the youth.
It's the youth.
Over Trump?
Over Trump.
I can't take 80 year olds in office anymore, man.
There is a- I try not to be ageist, but I'm not.
libby emmons
It is really frustrating to see my parents' generation just refuse to give up power.
You know, they're just sitting there on piles of cash and piles of power and they refuse to clear the way for somebody new.
And it's their fault.
And all of the mess is their fault.
And it's like, you know, we definitely need new people in Washington.
This is one thing I like about DeSantis.
Like, he's young.
He's like, you know, isn't he Gen X, basically?
tim pool
I don't know how old he is.
libby emmons
I think he's like 45.
tim pool
He's like low end.
hannah claire brimelow
He's like, let's say at most 50.
He's got young children.
He has a young wife.
tim pool
He's in his 40s.
hannah claire brimelow
I said at most, like top end of the scale.
He's got young children.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh, he's 43 is my age.
tim pool
He's 43?
unidentified
44?
libby emmons
He's a really young guy.
ian crossland
He's the same age as Ian?
That's awesome.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
Right?
So let's go DeSantis over AOC if we could.
ian crossland
I'd like to see the debate.
I'll be honest.
That's something that juries out for me on that.
But I would love to see those guys debate.
tim pool
A Trump AOC debate would be the funniest show I've ever seen.
And they'd keep doing them too.
Excuse me.
Excuse me, young lady.
No, no.
Crazy AOC.
And then she'd be like, Trump just likes me.
He thinks I'm hot.
It would just be the weirdest TV show ever.
libby emmons
Can you just go boo?
Stephen Fry should be the moderator of that debate.
tim pool
That would be really funny.
Can we make that happen?
I want to reach out to AOC's people.
Would you do a sit down with Donald Trump?
libby emmons
Put it on your vision board.
tim pool
Yeah, even if they're not running.
I'm going to make a vision board of Trump debating AOC and then we're going to try and make it happen.
libby emmons
Just wish it into reality.
hannah claire brimelow
Several years ago, I saw something on Twitter that was like, after Trump is done with politics, like, he should just, like, when the next presidential debates happen, he should just livestream him commenting on them, because it's probably more interesting, because, like, him, watching him debate is so bizarre.
Like, I, I, there's nothing that compares to it, really.
tim pool
We're sitting here talking about how funny it would be for AOC to debate or be on a show with Trump and then imagining how it would backfire and sort of backfire on us in that they end up agreeing on tons of populist positions and then Trump runs with AOC as VP.
He's like, we're going to win everyone.
She's like, I was wrong about this, man.
We're going to get the union working class manufacturing back.
It'll never happen because it's not really the case.
libby emmons
It would be nice to get manufacturing back.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, it was happening under Trump.
I'll say this.
I will say with certainty, I believe Donald Trump would absolutely do a sit down with AOC.
unidentified
100%.
Probably.
tim pool
But I don't think AOC would do it.
libby emmons
I mean, the ratings would be great.
And he loves ratings, you know?
ian crossland
Yeah, she got nothing to lose.
tim pool
She wouldn't do it.
ian crossland
That'd be a good combo.
They don't even have to agree or disagree.
They just talk about ideas.
libby emmons
You don't think she'd do it?
tim pool
I don't think so.
libby emmons
I think we should reach out.
hannah claire brimelow
There's only one way for us to find out.
Tim has to reach out.
I expect you to be on Twitter tonight.
tim pool
I mean, you know, we've got some of Trump's inner circle has been on the show.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So we'll ask them.
Cause they've told us like, you know, we could arrange a sit down with Donald Trump, but it means we have to go to him.
And it certainly would not be a two and a half hour show.
But that's, you know, I was saying like, we'll have Trump on as long as he wants to be on.
It would be an honor and a privilege.
And then just whenever he's done, we can shake his hand and say, thanks for coming.
And then, you know, carry on with the show like we do normally.
We had Joe Rogan on the show.
hannah claire brimelow
Joe Rogan did it.
tim pool
Yeah, for like an hour.
He was on longer than I thought he was going to.
He said he could pop in for a few minutes.
He hung out for like an hour.
I'd be totally down.
I just, I mean, if it's up in New Jersey, I mean, maybe AOC could come down and do it.
You know, maybe we do it at a venue or something where it's like kind of, you know, her security can bring her in and make sure she's safe and trumps people.
I don't know if they, I don't know if he'd want to go to a venue though.
He'd be like, pull the chairs up to where I'm at.
It would be the coolest thing in the world, though, to be honest.
hannah claire brimelow
It would be cool.
libby emmons
Bring them here.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a neutral ground.
They can all have their security.
tim pool
Never gonna happen.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, but I can dream.
libby emmons
Trump's too old.
He's got that golf course in New Jersey, doesn't he still?
tim pool
So this is what we were told is basically we'd have to go up to Bedminster if we were to do anything with Trump.
And then, like, is AOC gonna drive down there or whatever?
It's like, man.
libby emmons
That's not that far.
tim pool
I mean, I'll tell you, I don't think AOC would do it.
The one person that I know would probably just say yes outright is Vosh.
If I if we hit him up we were like would you like to sit down with Donald Trump?
He would be like yes, please Just and you know, so I'll give him credit for won't be
willing to do that despite the things we disagree on I don't think there's very many leftists at all that would
actually sit down and and have like a calm reason debate and you know
libby emmons
What's crazy about that? Is that I mean Trump was an anti-war president, right?
Like, the Democrats for a long time talked about being anti-war.
It's clear that they're not, obviously, you know, as they court conflict with China and Russia at the same time, because that's apparently brilliant diplomacy.
But yeah, I don't, so many of Trump's positions, like, well, mostly just the anti-war one, but that's a classically liberal position.
tim pool
You can you can you can criticize him a lot for potty mouth stuff, decorum, whatever.
But his foreign policy stuff was the best I've ever seen in my lifetime.
libby emmons
I thought the bilateral agreement thing was smart.
And I also another another leftist position of his or liberal position of his is to have union manufacturing in the U.S.
to keep things local, to keep Americans employed, to keep ourselves self-sufficient.
These used to be liberal positions.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, they used to be.
And then Donald Trump ran as a conservative.
He supported gay marriage before getting into office.
And I think he broke the left because they were like, what do we campaign on now?
He went middle of the road.
Vox.com in 2015, I think it was 2015 or 16, said Donald Trump's a moderate.
He's a moderate candidate.
And I was really funny to see that if you go back and look it up, because I'm like, the media called him worse than Hitler.
But back then they were like, he's a moderate.
hannah claire brimelow
He was moderate in policy but extreme in personality and that was something they couldn't look past.
libby emmons
And really he's like sort of a working class hero.
tim pool
Their decision making is based on emotion.
That's simply put.
So when Donald Trump gets up there and he goes, you know, like, oh, you know, fat pig or, you know, only Rosie O'Donnell, they're like, and everyone else is just like, and a lot of people are just like, oh, geez.
OK, but but do the right thing with with the border.
OK, how about that?
That's the thing too about Carrie Lake.
I think she's even got Biden basically bending the knee onto this policy.
Biden is going to be repairing gaps in the border in Yuma.
Look, man, that's why I'm like, why haven't they called it for Carrie Lake?
Because if even Joe Biden agrees on the policy that the Arizona border is in trouble, Carrie Lake's whole thing is like, we gotta fix the border.
Or one of our big things.
libby emmons
Well Joe Biden just started rebuilding a border wall.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right.
tim pool
He's building a wall.
libby emmons
But it was like, and what was that, Corinne Jean-Pierre was like, it's not Trump's border wall, we're just doing what's necessary.
Oh, okay.
hannah claire brimelow
You're building a wall.
There was a Democrat, when you saw all the coverage of the Yuma stuff come out, at least that's my experience, it was saying, you know, this was a sector that had previous funding, but Joe Biden repealed it, and now he's going to fix these gaps.
And basically there was one, I can't remember his name, I'll have to look it up, a Democratic Arizona, I think, congressman who was like, I just spoke to President Joe Biden about this two weeks ago, and we're really going to fix it now.
And he is running for re-election right now.
It is clear to everyone that the border is out of control.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
I want to jump to this Nancy Pelosi foreign policy stuff.
But, you know, because I was just thinking, we have this story from Newsweek.
Russia blasts provocative Pelosi and vows to back China.
You even had a lawmaker in Russia say that if World War Three breaks out, they're going to nuke London right away.
And I'm just thinking about with all this talk of President AOC, I wonder what China and Russia are thinking.
Because in all seriousness, you know they're looking at their calendars thinking, what's going to happen come 2025 when a new administration enters?
What opportunities do we lose?
What opportunities do we gain?
What must we do now?
ian crossland
I'll tell you what they're all thinking.
The government of Russia and China, what they're begging and hoping for.
The United States will fight itself.
That's what they want.
tim pool
That's right.
libby emmons
Well, we're doing a good job of that.
ian crossland
That's the only way we could lose in this situation is if we fight ourselves.
unidentified
I think there's a lot of ways we could lose, actually.
ian crossland
More than 27% likely of a loss would be because of an internal conflict.
tim pool
So I think if Donald Trump wins in 2024, China is worried about that.
Because they're gutting our economy, they're extracting our resources and our jobs.
Russia is excited about it, because Donald Trump does not want this psychotic American empire BS happening in the Middle East, and Russia's like, good for us.
It's probably why they backed off from Ukraine, because they felt like they weren't being threatened by this expansionist, you know, uniparty, Democrat-Republican garbage.
But China would probably freak out.
But I'm wondering if, like, Let's say the polls are wrong.
Let's say the Democrats are voting in the Republican primary, and so there's more Democrats voting, and then AOC gets elected.
Maybe not even AOC, because that's very silly.
ian crossland
Elizabeth Warren.
libby emmons
Who do we like?
tim pool
She's so old.
There's only one president, I think, out of anyone, name a Democrat, name a Republican, Donald Trump is the only person I think who can handle the foreign policy.
With the conflict, the crisis.
Two reasons.
One, what we saw with this foreign policy was the best I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Getting our troops out of the Middle East, scheduling it to a great degree, pulling troops out, eliminating ISIS, crossing to the DMZ into North Korea with no security detail was a huge sign of good faith.
Abraham Accords.
What was the peace agreement he had up in Europe?
Which country was it?
I always forget.
Anyway.
libby emmons
What, like the Kosovo stuff?
tim pool
I don't know.
know what was it? I don't know. I don't know. Someone want to look it up. He did. He did
another peace agreement. I'm sure the chat will know. But my point is the chat knows
it all. They do. They do. It's the Oracle. It's the great one. Donald Trump's foreign
policy was was just downright the best. On top of that, he had this this this twitching
eye about nuking his enemies if they crossed us.
So you got the best of both worlds.
libby emmons
Which was great.
I love that part.
tim pool
He's bringing our troops back and nobody's crossing us because he's got his finger right on the nuke button being like, I'm pulling my troops out.
You see?
And they're looking at his finger on the button.
They're like, we're not moving.
Keep your troops out.
We're fine.
But Joe Biden, Man, this guy comes in and Russia was like, okay, into Ukraine we go.
libby emmons
Here we go.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
Well, because Biden's not going to do anything.
Everything he's going to do is going to be calm and measured and considerate, you know?
He's never going to take any real decisive action.
tim pool
Serbia, Kosovo, Serbia.
libby emmons
Serbia, yeah.
That was like the, that's the Europe war area.
You know, that's what I was thinking.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Must be over there.
hannah claire brimelow
That's their battleground.
libby emmons
That's like where they've been, you know.
Hide in the dead bodies and everything.
tim pool
Yikes.
libby emmons
Right?
They had mass graves really under Clinton.
It was horrible.
unidentified
In Kosovo?
libby emmons
Yeah, that whole area.
So we got this- After the Velvet Revolution.
tim pool
We got these stories, you know, Russia says they're going to back China.
China's going to launch missiles over Taiwan.
A Russian lawmaker said they would nuke London.
He's like, that's the first thing hit.
And he said it's because London basically is an epicenter for NATO.
It's a huge, so they would go right after it.
I don't know.
I think, I think there's a lot of saber rattling, but how much of this is us just being like naive and thinking nothing bad could ever happen?
libby emmons
That it is.
I think that there's a lot of naivety to that.
And I think that we saw that under the Obama administration as well.
Because what happened with Obama is he would walk into the room having already stated what compromises he would make, right?
Because Obama walks in, he's like, I'm a reasonable man.
These are reasonable provisions.
Okay, except everyone else you're dealing with is a crazed invading lunatic, right, who wants more territory, who's not playing by your new rules.
Obama was playing by the rules of, we're in charge, everyone's cool with us being in charge, we'll make some, you know, considerations for you, we'll do some compromising.
Biden's going with those same rules, and those rules don't apply.
First of all, he's ridiculous, and everybody knows it, and it's obvious anytime he talks to world leaders that everyone thinks that he's, you know, lost his marbles.
tim pool
It's almost like a get what go broke, right?
Almost, with the United States.
Like what happens is I'm imagining you've got like a candy shop and a security guard gets hired to stop shoplifters and he's this six foot four orange guy who's just like looking at everybody being like, hey, you fat pig, you get out of here.
Hey, I'm looking at you.
And people are laughing.
Some people are like, I don't want to go to this candy shop anymore.
And then the owner or like the investors come in and they're like, Get this guy out of here and just get anyone else.
And so they wheelchair in this old man who's just sitting there going, and then everyone runs in and starts just looting the store.
So it's, it's, it's like, because of the potty mouth, they cancel the president and then say, we'll take anything else.
And you get this tepid, pathetic old man.
And now we are being just rampaged over internationally.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
It's not just I mean, there's like a Duane Reade in New York that's been putting spam in plastic lock boxes.
tim pool
No, for real?
libby emmons
For real.
Because of shoplifting.
I mean, we're, you know, we're destroying our country.
We're destroying ourselves on the world stage.
We're destroying our reputation.
We're not doing anything.
Well, Obama, who was it was saying?
I looked up the other day because I thought it was Obama who was saying that we had to manage the decline of the US.
He didn't say it quite like that.
tim pool
He said something like, I think we've got to blow up kids.
Too many of them.
libby emmons
But he said there was something about that, managing the decline of the US.
And I don't know why we ever let ourselves get sucked into that mindset.
If we're going to be an empire, why not just take over more stuff?
ian crossland
Because the new world order needs to set in.
The old world order is limited war, American military bases all over the earth, the liberal international economy.
libby emmons
Right, but meanwhile everyone else is still playing like they're empire builders.
tim pool
I got an idea for a video game that I would like to make and it's you're playing as Obama and you're droning kids.
libby emmons
Yikes.
tim pool
Or, they're not kids.
You think they're kids, but they're demons.
And then Obama's like, only I can do it!
he was the greatest president.
So what's the problem?
ian crossland
I really show his face and then you see it and it zooms into his eye.
And then all of a sudden you're looking out the camera of the drone.
tim pool
Or they're not kids.
You think they're kids, but they're demons.
And then Obama's like, only I can do it.
ian crossland
There are demons, but the kids are there as collateral, but you still have to go for the
unidentified
demons.
tim pool
So it's like, well, the kids are just in the way.
I did not like Obama.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you should do Obama's voice.
If we do this video game, then you have to do it.
tim pool
It's not actually a good Obama impression.
unidentified
It's like an exaggerated fire away.
ian crossland
Well, kids, he was the opposite of Trump in that, I mean, there were definitely different guys, but he was like likable personality, but Pretty overrun by the deep state and militaristic.
tim pool
He was blowing kisses while pressing the drone strike button.
ian crossland
Not super militant.
He wasn't invading countries.
He was just bombing stuff.
And they all have been, really.
Even Trump escalated the drone bombing program in secret, and he gave the control to the generals to make the decisions without him.
libby emmons
I was thinking about this recently too like because we have we have a don't we have a recruitment failure right now in our military we've like two months in the fiscal year and we're only halfway to the recruitment goals and we're going to be really short so what do you do in that situation if you're if you can't if you don't have guys to go send in and get blown up Do you advance your... Robots!
You know, robot autonomous weapons system.
unidentified
Drones.
ian crossland
Depends on the situation.
tim pool
Gigantic drones.
libby emmons
And if you have, if there are robot autonomous weapons, do they fall under 2A?
Does anyone get to have those?
tim pool
I think they do.
Do they?
Yeah, I think it needs to be, it would need to be clarified and codified, but arms means arms.
libby emmons
So autonomous robot dogs with rifle shooting eyes?
tim pool
A robot dog that can fire a weapon is just, it's like an advanced firing mechanism.
The thing about the left and the anti-gun, I shouldn't say the left, I hate doing that, the Democrats, the anti-gun people, is they just don't believe people have a right to defend themselves and they don't understand what a fundamental right is.
And a fundamental right is like, dude, if a weapon is held by the government, people had the right to have it.
So I'm all on board if people want to come together and say like, maybe there should be some limitations because weapons kind of got crazy in terms of like directed energy weapons and laser-induced plasma channels.
Now we got drones that you can mount stuff on.
Okay, maybe we should have a conversation there.
I say for the time being, arms are arms.
Whether it's a flying drone that you put a machine gun on, or a handgun, or a bow and arrow, or a knife, whatever.
It's the crazy thing is that knives aren't covered under arms.
libby emmons
What do you mean?
tim pool
Like, you can't have knives in some place because there's no two-way right to it.
libby emmons
Oh, like you can't have Bowie knives and stuff like that.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And they say a knife of a certain length and stuff like that.
Certain things are like, well, it doesn't count as an arm, so, you know, as arms.
libby emmons
Meanwhile, there was just a stabbing attack during a tubing vacation.
Did you guys see that?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, what was that about?
libby emmons
Yeah, so some crazy guy, I don't remember why, he was like part of the trip and he stabbed a 17-year-old to death.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh!
libby emmons
And he sent four other people to the hospital and they were all just tubing on a river.
unidentified
Whoa.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's typically like interpersonal conflict that just gets out of hand.
tim pool
Do you see the box cutter slasher in New York or whatever?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
He just like holds his arm in there and he walks up to a woman and just slashes her in the back full force.
hannah claire brimelow
In broad daylight.
tim pool
Could you imagine living in New York?
libby emmons
On the subway station?
unidentified
No.
hannah claire brimelow
Could you imagine living in New York Libby?
libby emmons
I can imagine it very well.
I live there.
tim pool
Bro, check this out. We went to New York to look to we went we did a trip for all the crew to see the
Billboards we put up that morning was when it happened. Oh, no. No, I think that yeah, I think the slashing happened
that morning cutter slasher Yeah, just like some some like older woman is like walking
with a little cart and he just slashes her back So the other day it was last weekend
libby emmons
and I was hanging out with my son as I tend to do because he lives in my house and
And I was like, do you want to go do something?
We could go to the Met.
I love the Met.
And also, the Met is the only museum in New York that stopped requiring Vax cards.
So I was like, OK, I'll go back to the Met.
But everybody else, the Guggenheim, everybody else, you have to show your Vax card.
I think that's still in effect.
Anyways, so I was like, you want to go do this?
We'll go hang out.
We'll go to the Lego store.
We'll do fun stuff.
We'll walk around.
And he was like, Can't we just drive to Jersey and go to a mall?
And I was like, yeah, we could do that.
And so instead of going to Manhattan, we went to the mall in New Jersey.
hannah claire brimelow
Your son is like ready to be in the suburbs.
He's done.
libby emmons
He's like, we're done here.
ian crossland
Did he say why you'd rather do Jersey?
libby emmons
So I said, you don't want to walk around Manhattan?
He was like, it's hot.
There's probably good stuff at a mall.
We can go to a chain restaurant.
ian crossland
You get the AC.
tim pool
They got Panda Express.
libby emmons
We ended up at a California pizza kitchen.
Classic mall fair.
It was fun.
We had a fun day and we still like did a ton of walking.
We just wandered around the mall a lot.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm I'm excited for we just started construction on the new facility.
I'm excited to bring some some life and energy into West Virginia.
And I think these cities We were trying to expand in New Jersey, but they're insane.
These are insane communist people.
libby emmons
Yeah, New Jersey is nuts.
tim pool
It's communists.
They're walking around waving sickle and hammer flags.
And I mean, I'm half kidding.
But where we lived, there were stores that were flying communist-style flags.
I'm not saying literal Soviet flags.
They had weird symbol flags that represented socialist and communist ideologies.
And I'm just like, you look, man, To a certain degree, I'm willing to engage in my community and expand, but when it gets to the point when local people are flying these flags, maybe it's not safe and we should go and try and just bring our investments to other places.
libby emmons
And you were on the Philly side of New Jersey, right?
tim pool
We were on South Jersey, right on the other side of Philly.
libby emmons
And Philly is a disaster.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's another reason I was like, time to get out.
These cities, get what go broke, man.
It is, what, Galt's Gulch?
Is that what was it called?
What's that?
In Atlas Shrugged?
All the wealthy, high meritocracy people are just like, we're out, we're going to do our own thing.
And then everything starts breaking down and falling apart.
Fine, so be it.
Look, New York still got a lot of talented people running businesses, but it's a strain.
It's getting harder and harder to do.
I think cities are awful.
So be it.
I'm looking forward to getting out and just doing something with less people.
hannah claire brimelow
I think with New York I lived there for a little bit and part of it is for most people it's not going to be a long-term solution and I think in some ways our culture has shifted so much with the rise of like work from home work remote that like you can start investing in whatever community both like financially but also emotionally you can really set roots earlier because you're not fighting to establish your career you can be in a place that's more reflective of your values.
I think that the wave of people that we saw moving out of cities, I mean, we really haven't seen a wave returning since COVID, right?
libby emmons
There's been people coming back to New York.
hannah claire brimelow
Some, but not, it's not like they took time off and then went back.
I mean, people are discovering that life is sustainable outside the city.
tim pool
Yeah, they're going to Mexico.
libby emmons
Did you see that?
And Mexicans are like, go home!
tim pool
Yeah, no, so we did a segment about it, it was really funny, like right in the beginning, Lauren Southern, she's like, it's the Great Replacement!
But the segment we did talking about Mexicans getting angry at Americans invading their country, it's got like half a million views.
It's getting shared like crazy.
It's ironic, but I think the reason people are sharing it is because they're like, yo, the sentiment among people when a large influx of people of a different culture come in, the sentiment that people feel like negative towards that, it's universal.
They want to talk about multiculturalism.
I was like, well, it's multicultural to be upset when your way of life is overnight disrupted by Yeah, because you like your community, that's why you're there.
libby emmons
You're not there so that it just randomly gets changed by a bunch of people who decide they like it but want it to be in their image instead of yours.
tim pool
I think we should talk about Alex Jones now.
We got this story from the Daily Mail.
libby emmons
That was a really brilliant segue, by the way.
tim pool
Yeah, I thought so too.
I just figured it was not a segue at all.
libby emmons
It was perfect.
ian crossland
Just a beautiful statement.
tim pool
January 6th, House Committee prepares to subpoena Alex Jones' emails and texts for any contact with Donald Trump after his legal team mistakenly sent them to Sandy Hook parents' lawyers.
Okay, I'm just so frustrated.
I don't know if you guys were watching the court case with the Alex Jones trial.
ian crossland
No, not yet.
tim pool
It's just, this is made up stuff.
So here's what happens.
The plaintiff's attorney, he's like, we've got all of your text messages because they sent it to us by accident.
And Alex was like, I gave my cell phone to you.
I gave my cell phone to my lawyers to turn over.
And they're like, you tried to hide it.
And he was like, I gave my cell phone to you, you have it.
And they're like, no, you gave it to us on accident.
And he's like, what?
This is the craziest thing that they're saying, definitively, that it was mistakenly sent to them.
When you have two factions arguing, one side saying it was, one side saying it wasn't, why would you just decide one side is telling the truth?
This is the craziest thing to me.
libby emmons
Also, isn't it part of discovery?
Like, doesn't it go to everybody?
tim pool
Well, so that was the issue.
They were arguing that it wasn't sent during discovery.
That it was, like, not sent during the typical process or whatever.
And I'm just like, okay, well, why would that have been an accident if they sent them all of his text messages or something like that?
hannah claire brimelow
Also, what is this accent?
They were just like, I put in the wrong email address?
I mean, that seems like a strange coincidence.
libby emmons
I accidentally gave you this Dropbox link somewhere.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I accidentally specifically gave you the thing that you wanted.
libby emmons
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't get it.
unidentified
My bad.
tim pool
And then the judge like intervened and said to the jury that we don't know that it was like he was trying to hide it or something but we do know they received it in an improper way or something like that.
ian crossland
It sounds like they're doubling two issues right now.
They're doubling the issue of Alex and what he said about Sandy Hook with this Trump January 6th thing.
Like what's he on trial for?
Sandy Hook.
It has nothing to do with the Trump He's on trial for one reason.
tim pool
They're trying to destroy him, his career, his life, and everything.
ian crossland
It's a clown show.
It's going on for like seven years.
This is insane.
He already admitted what he did was wrong.
libby emmons
And he said that the media just wouldn't let it drop.
hannah claire brimelow
But there was one headline today that was like, he admits that.
tim pool
No, it's everywhere.
hannah claire brimelow
It's so insane.
libby emmons
And if you look at the full quote, he's like, I admitted this a long time ago.
tim pool
AP, Alex Jones concedes Sandy Hook attack was 100% real.
Yo, he said that like seven years ago!
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he conceded it a long time ago.
It's not present tense.
ian crossland
He said he used to have so many documents in front of him and he'd read things, and then one night he went on this tirade about Sandy Hook that he'd got some information that was bad information, he didn't vet it, and it changed his life ever since.
Well, this is what he told me.
He said ever since he's been just on the evidence, he will go deep into evidence now.
He doesn't shout stuff out as much as he used to.
tim pool
Fair, fair, but I'm not going to cut Alex, I'm not going to let him off the hook on this one.
There were other people at InfoWars that were telling him to stop.
And I had heard this before the trial started, like, it was last year.
There were people, because we've had Alex on the show, we've had other people who've worked with him, and they were like, they were telling us, people were telling Alex, like, bro, chill on this stuff, you can't do this.
You can't defame private citizens like this.
Apparently it's come out in the trial.
They showed emails where staffers at InfoWars were complaining, being like, what are you doing?
Even when it came to the COVID stuff, people were getting mad, saying like, you're saying too much, you know, false stuff.
So I'll say it outright.
I think defamation is wrong.
Alex Jones wanted to go on his show and say things that weren't true or, you know, to a certain degree.
I think he's got to be held accountable.
However, I think what's going on right now is anything but that.
I mean, I feel like the lawyer was super smarmy.
It was just like, dude, I could not stand listening to the man because he was going, Alex?
And I'm like, shut up, dude.
Just ask a question.
Like, I got to tell you this.
If I'm sitting, if I'm sitting listening to a lawyer, I'm telling you, I think Alex Jones was wrong in this.
And I think he owes the family something.
Then their lawyer comes out and he goes, Mr. Jones, um, you said this, right?
Do you know what perjury is, Mr. Jones?
And I'm just like, wow, I really hate this guy and want Alex to win now.
Cause like, he's so awful.
It's like, Alex is up there coughing.
libby emmons
Was he like the Rittenhouse prosecutor?
Remember that guy?
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah.
It's just, yeah, that guy.
libby emmons
That guy was annoying.
hannah claire brimelow
Except he gave us the best legal quote of all time.
Don't get brazen with me.
tim pool
I think these stories that I heard that you hear about in the news, people showing up to their houses and stuff, it's horrifying.
And there were people that worked with Alex that were telling him to back off.
And he went full steam, or I should say he went steam enough that he should have done it.
Now they're saying they want $150 million over it, and I'm like, this is where it's getting crazy.
It doesn't seem like he's getting a fair hearing.
He wasn't even granted a jury trial over this.
They went straight to the damages hearing.
It's totally insane.
It absolutely is.
So, you know, look, man, the most annoying thing is they do these really dirty games.
And what blows my mind is it just works on dumb people.
So one thing they're doing is...
Alex Jones, so I don't wanna use Alex Jones as a specific example.
I'll give you a general example.
Someone will say something like, do you have, I gave the example to Ian.
I was like, Ian, you have a rock in front of you.
ian crossland
This one here.
tim pool
Is that rock blue?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
You are testifying right now that there is, that is not a blue rock?
ian crossland
Correct, yes.
tim pool
Okay, now hand that rock over to us.
Then we'll go, ah, there it is, there is blue.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the rock, blue, right there.
Did you testify this rock was not blue, Mr. Crossland?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
And clearly we can see there is blue here.
Do you not perjury us, Mr. Crossland?
That's what they're doing.
That's what they're doing.
The annoying thing is like, dude, stupid people will fall for that.
And it's really annoying.
If someone says, do you have X?
And you go, Usually you say something like, to the best of my recollection, I don't think so.
I don't think I have that.
Now, I'm not saying Alex is perfect on this one.
I'm not here to defend everything he said or done.
I'm saying it's really annoying when it's like, perjury almost never happens.
Perjury charges?
Because it's impossible to prove someone's memory is perfect and they intended to lie.
ian crossland
Yeah, like James Clapper when he said they weren't wittingly spying on the American citizens at PRISM.
Well, what's the word wittingly?
He did say we weren't wittingly doing it, so they were unwittingly spying is basically what it came down to.
Perjury!
tim pool
In this instance, they said to Alex, you testified you didn't have emails pertaining to Sandy Hook, and he was like, I may have been mistaken.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I gave you my phone.
I gave you my emails.
And then they're just like, did you testify?
You did not.
And they want him to say yes without any kind of nuance or context.
Then he says, do you know what perjury is, Mr. Jones?
It's like to taint the jury into believing that perjury was committed when he will never be charged for perjury because the reality is he probably just didn't know.
It's crazy to me, you know, we get thousands of emails per day across the board, thousands.
You think I know what's in there?
libby emmons
Yeah, you never know.
tim pool
So what they'll do is they'll say, do you have emails?
And I'll say, I don't know.
And they'll be like, okay, well, like you're saying you're unfamiliar with, yes.
And then they'll probably be like, boom, there it is.
We have it in your database.
You had it.
And it's like, dude, I don't read those things.
libby emmons
Right.
I mean, how many unread email messages do you have?
I think mine are in the many thousands upon thousands of unread.
ian crossland
Easily.
tim pool
Well, I just mark everything as read every day.
Just like, just ignore it.
libby emmons
I don't do that.
I just skip them.
hannah claire brimelow
You have a company, right?
So there's so many email servers that you don't know what's going on with your own company, Tim Pool?
That's crazy.
Like, it's just an impossible standard.
I think Alex, I mean I wonder sometimes with the way the prosecution is proceeding is if they're just trying to get him to feel so irritated he has some outbursts on the stand that can feed a media cycle for a little while.
I mean in some ways it just seems like they're trying to get under his skin.
tim pool
They're just trying to destroy... Alex Jones is a huge arsenal for Donald Trump's victory.
And so they're trying to just go after him in any way possible to make sure that anybody who's not absolutely in politics won't listen to the man.
Now look, Alex does a lot of crazy stuff.
The reason we have an Alex Jones was right jar is because he says a lot of crazy stuff.
So when he's right, you put the money in the jar.
That's the gag.
When he went on Rogan and talked about, like, what is it, fourth dimensional, fifth dimensional beings and, like, 5G cell towers and animal-human hybrids, I'm like, okay, it's all crazy.
You know what I mean?
But there's a lot of things he's talked about, like Epstein, for instance, that he's been right about.
ian crossland
And chimeras.
They are real.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, that's the thing.
It's like, he says things in ways often where you think he's nuts, and then you realize it's true.
Like, we had him on the show and he was like, we're all eating cloned beef.
And I was like, what?
And he's like, yeah, we're cloning cows and then eating it.
And I'm like, no, we aren't.
That's crazy.
And I pulled it up.
I'm like, oh, it's actually true.
Like, we show the sources saying we do cloned beef.
ian crossland
I thought that they already got Alex in a trial for Sandy Hook defamation.
libby emmons
Yeah, I thought that's... Didn't we already see this?
ian crossland
Three years ago or two years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But it wasn't... I don't know the full details.
libby emmons
Is this civil?
unidentified
I think this is civil.
tim pool
This is the damages hearing.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Oh, I see.
tim pool
Well, it's all civil.
That's the other thing, too.
The left thinks there's criminal defamation charges.
I'm like, we talking defamation?
It's a civil tort.
libby emmons
Yeah.
I also... I don't think anyone should ever answer yes or no questions.
tim pool
Oh, I agree.
It's a manipulation.
libby emmons
I don't think that's ever worthwhile.
I remember getting into a fight with someone once and they were...
Yes or no?
Yes or no?
I was like, I told, I'm not even gonna agree with the premise of your stupid question.
ian crossland
Yeah, no one's, you never have to answer a question the way someone else wants you to.
libby emmons
No, that's ridiculous.
And you never should.
tim pool
The other thing too is, if someone says like, you know, Ian, do you have a blue rock?
You say, to the best of my understanding, I don't believe so.
ian crossland
As opposed to no.
tim pool
Right.
Because then they're gonna be like, you said no!
You said no!
It's like, well, I said to the best of my understanding, I must have been wrong.
libby emmons
Or why do you want to know what color my rock is?
You look at it.
tim pool
I don't know if we're seeing different colors.
ian crossland
My green could be your blue.
tim pool
When your doctor asks a question like, do you have wasps under your armpits?
You say, not that I know of.
You don't say no.
libby emmons
Cause he might be a magician and have like a wasp up his sleeve.
tim pool
Or maybe it's coming out of your armpit.
He's like, well then what's this?
libby emmons
Here it is.
unidentified
Doctor says you're experiencing wasps under your armpits.
tim pool
Anybody who knows that reference will, anyone who understands that reference will earn a prize.
unidentified
No, I don't.
libby emmons
I happen to have Marshall McLuhan writing.
tim pool
I'm willing to bet a bunch of people and some people in the chat will totally understand that reference.
We'll see though.
ian crossland
Adrian Curry.
I love Libby.
libby emmons
Aw, I love you too, Adrian.
Thanks.
ian crossland
That was nice.
libby emmons
That's very sweet.
tim pool
You know what I was thinking with Alex Jones?
This trial is almost meaningless.
I feel like Alex could just go on the stand right now and just be like, I'm sorry that it happened.
I own up to it.
It shouldn't have happened.
I apologize.
I hope for her forgiveness and I'd love to try and do what I can.
And let me know what you think is deserving of the families and we'll do what we can to help them out.
hannah claire brimelow
Did he have the option to settle out of court?
tim pool
Well, I'm just saying if he did that, no matter what he does, he is still Alex Jones and they can never stop this man.
Like, there's literally nothing you can do.
ian crossland
Worst case scenario, they would bankrupt him, make him close InfoWars.
Is that what they're trying to do?
tim pool
They can't do that.
That's not possible.
ian crossland
So they just bankrupt him and then you just start making money again.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So what they could do is, you know, Alex said anything over $2 million would destroy the company.
Considering he got deplatformed, it's entirely possible, but I almost don't know if I believe it because he's syndicated in other places and there's other ways that InfoWars makes money.
And I really doubt that his revenue is $2 million.
So we'll see.
I also bet Alex has been planning for this, knowing that they were going to come after him for large sums of money.
He's probably shuffled a bit of his wealth into areas that protect it.
We hope so.
libby emmons
Give it to your kids.
tim pool
Give it to your kids.
You can't just give it to them.
It's taxed.
But you can do transfers that shield it from lawsuits.
hannah claire brimelow
Or put it into living trusts.
ian crossland
Yeah, trusts are fantastic.
tim pool
Yeah, there's tons of things.
But I'm just saying, even if they were to get the $150 million, what happens tomorrow?
He goes back in.
He does his show.
Now, they might force liquidate his asses or something, but all the man needs is a cell phone.
And they, what are they going to do?
Like, we're taking your phone now from you.
It's like, you can't, phone costs 20 bucks.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think they just want to be able to say, like, he was convicted of defamation, Alex Jones, who was convicted of defamation, and be able to have that be the soundbite and sort of his official moniker for a little while?
So like, again, not that they could necessarily pull it off, but to trash his credibility and try and What does that do?
I mean, I don't think it would do anything, but maybe they feel like if they can rock
the boat on Alex Jones's supporters, they can gain some sort of influence over popular
narrative and culture.
unidentified
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Probably.
ian crossland
It's a short-sighted goal, but it might be because I don't, other than that, think it's
tim pool
a good thing.
goal but it might be because I don't other than that They just want the money But I mean what you can't get blood out of a stone 150 million if he only has 2 million revenue like well, I will say I think Alex Jones likely has more money than He's letting on but I also think the other side in this is not playing fair At all.
ian crossland
It's the the process is the punishment kind of thing, right?
tim pool
They're just raking him through it and Yeah, so like one of the things he said was, this is what they do, this is how they get you.
He said he doesn't do email.
He doesn't have email.
And then they were like, here's a text showing you sending an email.
And he was like, oh, that's like a personal thing dictated to my assistant.
And they're like, ah, but you said you didn't have email.
And it's like, dude, oh, are you serious?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like if someone's, if you're like, I don't have an email account, but like one time you might have sent one or two, that's just, then they, they argue, it's perjury and all that stuff.
And I'm just like, I'm so annoyed by it.
Because if anyone who's sane and rational looks at the nuance, outright would just be like, yeah, he screwed this one up.
You know, these families suffered enough.
Let's sort this one out.
Instead, you've got the opposing lawyer is like one of the worst people I've ever heard speak.
And then everyone's just flinging crap at each other.
And I'm like, nobody looks good here.
libby emmons
Well, a big part of what we have going on now, too.
It's not just Alex Jones, but it's, you know, January 6th Committee, the Department of Justice.
The idea is going after not just people who worked with Trump, but anyone who supported him.
And we're seeing that across our justice system.
ian crossland
I really don't like this sentiment of, I don't like that guy and I don't like what I was told he did.
Throw him in prison.
unidentified
Or at least just legally torture him.
tim pool
Yeah, really.
ian crossland
It is kind of like a psychological torture.
libby emmons
It's like the trial.
Did you read that?
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
The Kafka.
So this guy is brought up on charges and nobody ever tells him what it is that he did.
And it just goes on like that.
It's very, well, it's Kafka-esque is what it is.
ian crossland
What's up with this dude they just said they destroyed with a drone bomb?
Al-Aulaqi?
No, not Al-Aulaqi, that's the kiddo.
libby emmons
Oh, this was the Monday thing?
tim pool
Zawahiri?
ian crossland
Yeah, Zawahiri.
And I'm like, didn't they already kill that guy a decade ago?
Is this like 1984 where they're always at war with a country overseas and it's like every 10 years they're like, we are, we have found the terrorist finally, we've killed him.
Like, didn't you get that guy 10 years ago?
libby emmons
What's weird too is a year ago Biden said that Al-Qaeda wasn't in.
Afghanistan, right?
And now they're saying, and now they're like, oh, they're still in Afghanistan.
It's like, well, why'd you say that a year ago?
Because a year ago he was going to pull out the troops, right?
Yeah.
And then they got 13 service members killed.
ian crossland
It went very badly.
They retreated and then he, well, they routed and surrendered and now they're back there?
libby emmons
Yeah, they said that they were going to work with the Taliban to make sure there was no Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
unidentified
Excellent.
libby emmons
And I remember at the time, me and literally everybody else was like, oh, you're trusting these guys now?
You're trusting these guys to make sure that there aren't terrorists and they're like, they are terrorists.
ian crossland
Whatever reason, like lightning striking me, I no longer believe or trust when I'm told in the news that they got a terrorist leader.
I don't believe it anymore.
I don't even know if the guy was alive to begin with.
I see no proof.
libby emmons
They say that he and his family were living in Kabul.
I believe that.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's what I remember hearing a description of like it was so they they he walked out onto the balcony and they were able to take him out.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
And it didn't cause any structural harm.
They didn't have to hurt anyone in his family because sometimes they'll just drop a bomb and like.
libby emmons
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean I think they're saying like it was so a show of how clear our how strong our military is and how advanced our technology is and I I just feel like that's a weird stance.
Like all of it felt strange.
ian crossland
Yeah, very likely if they blew up a building or a complex to get this guy that other people were involved
in getting killed.
hannah claire brimelow
They did though.
That was the like.
ian crossland
And it's what they told us they didn't.
They said, no, we just got the one guy.
Don't worry.
It's like, I want this guy on trial.
I want to stop killing people because the war on terror is over.
We ended it 15 years ago or eight years ago.
libby emmons
But how do you get him on trial?
I agree with you.
I don't think we should be going around committing these kinds of things.
But how would you get him on trial?
No one would extradite him.
What trial?
What court?
tim pool
So take a look at this story from November 17th, 2020.
The death of Ayman al-Zawahiri in the future of Al-Qaeda.
Daniel L. Beiman.
I suppose the issue was that they assumed he was dead.
And so, later on, the news comes out and they're like, okay, no, now he's actually dead.
So that's, that's, that's what I think you're referring to.
ian crossland
They could be like, oh, he's actually alive.
We didn't get him.
Oh, wait, we got him.
But it's like, this just- They said they have no confirmation.
tim pool
They have no DNA confirmation.
ian crossland
Okay, no confirmation.
libby emmons
Maybe they'll get him in a couple years next time.
ian crossland
Yeah, maybe next time when he's back that they'll get him this time.
And then, then we can have faith in our government that it's doing the right thing.
What, that we're just bombing and killing guys is not the right thing.
There's no declared war.
libby emmons
This is not- But Congress is toothless.
They won't do anything.
So how would they, how are they possibly going to declare war?
tim pool
I don't think anybody's in charge.
libby emmons
They can't even agree on like helping veterans, you know?
tim pool
I think everybody's just screaming at each other and clawing for power.
Nobody's really in charge.
If anyone's in charge, it's Xi Jinping.
Like, not that he controls everything.
ian crossland
He's being run by somebody, too.
tim pool
Well, I mean, to a certain degree, he's got the party and he's trying to maintain confidence among the people who are around him.
But what I mean is, no one, there's no control.
There's no single group just controlling everything.
They're trying to.
Yeah.
And Xi Jinping probably has the most power of any individual, but not necessarily the most power of any group.
You know what I mean?
And Putin as well.
ian crossland
The bankers have a lot of power, like the Bank for International Settlements.
I don't know what their military capabilities are, though.
They can have private military and they have access to weapons and stuff, but they're not a nation state.
libby emmons
The corporations seem to have a lot of power as well.
ian crossland
Yeah, and they're kind of run by the bankers that are fluentizing their capital.
libby emmons
And they also just do whatever they're told by whatever government, whatever nation they are, you know, invested in.
This is the ESG stuff. You know, look at Nike, right? Nike will do one thing in China. They'll do something else here
Look at the way that the whole pride month thing goes, right?
So like in in western europe and in the u.s You have all of these companies being like yay pride stuff
And then if you look at their same advertising in saudi arabia, it's like no pride. It's maga maga month, you know
tim pool
For MAGA Month, none of our international accounts changed their pictures to American flags.
libby emmons
Really?
tim pool
That's disappointing.
Well, I mean, we don't want to offend other countries.
And we don't have any international accounts.
But I took the American flag off of my account because MAGA Month is over.
That's what you're supposed to do.
You only fly the flag in support during the one month and then you're done.
Done my duty.
Now everybody knows I support America and, you know, back to work.
libby emmons
Is there a Ukraine pride flag that has, like, all of it?
unidentified
Yeah, there is a pride flag with Ukraine on it, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, but was it real?
hannah claire brimelow
I've never seen it in public.
I've only seen it on the internet, and who knows what's real on the internet?
ian crossland
Oh, so a lot of these flags are just graphics.
Is that what it's turned into?
unidentified
Oh, of course.
I mean, all flags are graphics.
tim pool
Well, but, like, some of them, no one actually made into a flag.
The crazy thing is, like, is there a committee that decides the pride flag?
Like, all of a sudden, one day, someone's like, this is more inclusive, and then people just start using it.
libby emmons
Well, there are people who invent all of these flags.
Like, if you dig down, it's always somebody invented it.
tim pool
We need a flag.
We need to make our own flag.
ian crossland
Gotta get a flag bearer.
hannah claire brimelow
I love this idea.
tim pool
For people who like reading books during thunderstorms.
libby emmons
Oh, that's cute.
It would have a lightning bolt on it.
That'll go over really well.
tim pool
And it'll be gray and blue stripes.
And we'll hold it up like, ahhh!
Angrily and like people start throwing bricks at like Barnes & Noble for some reason.
libby emmons
You gotta be careful with the lightning bolts though.
tim pool
Why is that?
libby emmons
Isn't that like a Nazi thing?
tim pool
No, but it'll be like a rainstorm.
hannah claire brimelow
It won't be alone.
It'll be with a cloud.
libby emmons
It'll be like a cloud.
tim pool
My point is like whatever you identify for yourself.
libby emmons
Like a care bear.
It'll be like a care bear.
tim pool
Yeah, like a care bear.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it's sort of like when people had family crests, right?
Like they had something to represent it.
Like, we just need a crest.
We got to bring those back.
You'll feel better.
tim pool
A lion.
Yeah, that's an eagle.
ian crossland
We were talking about the Rothschilds earlier, like who's running the show, the banking industry.
Rothschild is like, it kind of began in the 1500s.
Well, it didn't begin, but modern banking with those guys.
But Rothschild means red shield.
It was before they had addresses.
It was just all symbols and stuff.
And they had a red shield on the front of the house.
They're like, now they are the red shields.
So let's do that again.
libby emmons
Well, that's sort of what we're doing, right?
With red and blue.
We have like red states and blue states.
But if you go back in history, it's always like that.
It's like it's always one group identifies with one color and the opposing group has a different color.
And that's how they that's how they proceed in all of the wars and conflicts.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
How we get all that cool tartan in Scotland.
tim pool
Crests are too complicated.
Just pick a color.
Purple.
ian crossland
OK, I'll be purple.
tim pool
There you go.
ian crossland
Done.
I want to peel it off.
Peel it back and then you see the red underneath or something like that.
tim pool
Periwinkle.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, next time we're on the show, everyone better have a crest.
ian crossland
Dude, if you could fly a flag that was like a magnifying glass and get it the light just right so it shines down and shows you where the gold is, that'd be awesome.
libby emmons
The thing about a crest, though, is it's like we're supposed to hate our ancestors.
What if we started identifying with them?
hannah claire brimelow
You should have ancestor month now.
libby emmons
Right?
We're supposed to hate them because they were also evil.
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
Maga month was July because you know, 4th of July.
libby emmons
Ancestor month could be, could be August.
ian crossland
Who do you think was the best evil villain from back in the day?
tim pool
Which, which day?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Like if you had to pick one, but like, what do you mean by villain?
libby emmons
Like maybe Rasputin.
ian crossland
Like killer.
Yeah.
He was pretty nasty.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Manipulated the royal family.
He was just crazy.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Well, he was a weird, crazy priest.
tim pool
Hopped up on goofballs.
libby emmons
He sure was.
tim pool
Lots of goofballs.
libby emmons
Didn't they try to poison him like a half dozen times and it didn't take?
tim pool
That might be apocryphal.
libby emmons
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
Like they tried to kill a bunch of different ways and he wouldn't die.
libby emmons
Well, it's important to hang on to the good myths, but they did, uh, they did try and kill the royal family, the women and they, they, the bullets were bouncing off them.
That's real.
unidentified
What?
libby emmons
Yeah.
Because they had sewed all the gems into their gowns.
tim pool
Oh.
libby emmons
So when they tried to, to, you know, sneak some wealth out of the palace as they were getting rounded up.
tim pool
And they were, they were shooting with like 22s or something or what?
libby emmons
I don't know what they were shooting the Russian royal family with, but I do know that the women had gems sewn into their gowns.
tim pool
I think a lot of the guns they had back in the day were like .22s.
I could be wrong though.
libby emmons
Musket balls.
unidentified
Those are .50 caliber muskets.
tim pool
That'll put a ten inch hole in your chest.
I don't know if the gems are going to protect you from that.
Let's talk about this movie.
Let me see if I can find this one.
Here we go.
This is from the Daily Mail.
Holy wokery, Batgirl!
Tom Leonard investigates why Warner Brothers' $90 million new superhero movie has been deemed so awful it will never be released.
So I saw this and I really want to talk about it because it's a massive get woke, go broke.
Apparently they put $90 million into a Batgirl film that was super woke and they canceled it because when they showed it to people, the people said, this is a terrible movie and you shouldn't have made it.
And so they scrapped it.
libby emmons
That's a lot of money to scrap.
I kind of want to see it now.
tim pool
I, yeah, apparently that's what's happening.
People are saying, like, give us the film and we'll finish it.
unidentified
Let us see.
tim pool
But I bet it's really bad.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I bet it, like... I think we can't hate watch stuff or even, like, curiosity watch stuff.
Like, then they'll be like, oh, so you did buy a ticket, so we should make this.
Like, if they canceled it, just let it go.
Like, it's probably good.
tim pool
They say the audience feedback was so awful that in an almost unprecedented move, Warner Bros.
has decided the reputational damage of releasing such a dud would be even worse than wasting the tens of millions of dollars it already spent on it.
It just didn't work, said an insider.
The decision is also a blow for Glasgow, which had stood in for Gotham City in the movie.
Okay, that's weird.
libby emmons
Who was the lead?
tim pool
I don't know, but this costume looks like it's, like, crappy cosplay.
libby emmons
Well they already failed because we all know that female superheroes are supposed to wear mini skirts and stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
But then that's like over sexualizing her so like can't do that either.
They trapped themselves into a corner where they couldn't market this film.
It's not clear who this audience is for.
tim pool
I think this may be the end of what was in movies.
I think this shows that they spent a ton of money, realized they made garbage that nobody wanted.
I mean, how long did it take for people to finally realize when they're like, you know, Maybe your average dude doesn't want to see a super ripped woman punching people in the face.
libby emmons
Maybe... And your average woman doesn't want to see that either.
tim pool
Exactly.
You know, I think it was... it might have been Bill Burr?
Or I can't remember which comedian it was.
libby emmons
He's funny.
tim pool
They said that the WNBA should... where are all the feminists?
All the feminists should be out there watching the WNBA, but there's nobody there!
Where the woman at?
Nobody watches it!
libby emmons
Because nobody cares.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
I don't want to watch it.
tim pool
Exactly.
libby emmons
I don't want to watch Men's Battle Polymer.
tim pool
What is this obsession with, like, creating men's things for women that women don't want and men don't want?
libby emmons
This is such a weird thing, too, and especially in films and, you know, narrative, because what they do is they say, let's take this character that is a male character and let's just turn it into a female character and do exactly the same things with it that we would do with a male character and then it's like, you know, feminist and forward-thinking and progressive and all of that.
But if you're going to build a female character, you have to build a female character that is female at the core.
You can't just like gloss over, you know, you can't just like basically trans a male character in a narrative.
tim pool
I think I know how to do it.
libby emmons
How to trans a male character?
tim pool
How to make Batgirl work for women.
Here's what you do.
It's Batgirl, right?
She's a crime-fighting superhero.
And then she starts dating Batman and he like is totally into BDSM and is like choking her and stuff.
You know, like, because Fifty Shades of Grey.
I mean, women love that!
libby emmons
Okay, but the perfect one was the Michael Keaton Batman with, who was it?
Was it Michelle Pfeiffer was Catwoman?
That was great.
It was romantic.
It was, it was action-y.
She was cool.
Everyone wanted to be Catwoman that Halloween.
ian crossland
But it's Catwoman, it's not Cat, and there's no Catman.
Because it's like, that's a female character from the core.
tim pool
We should make Catman.
libby emmons
Yeah, but every grade school kid knows that, you know, cats are girls and dogs are boys.
unidentified
Can't explain these things just the way it is.
tim pool
But it is, it's weird.
Everyone thinks cats are girls.
I'm like, I don't understand.
ian crossland
You've got the feline, female.
tim pool
It's like, we have Bocas, and people are like, what's her name?
And I'm like, it's a dude.
I mean, he's a eunuch, but he's a dude.
libby emmons
Eunuchs are still dudes.
tim pool
No, but my point was like, if you were going to make a... Women want different things, right?
I made this point a couple days ago.
I made it several times the past week.
When I was on this plane and we got hit by wind and we fell like 50 feet, you just drop, every single man on the plane screams, not a single male did.
Because like, men and women are different.
libby emmons
Yeah, I would scream probably.
ian crossland
What is the screaming from?
libby emmons
Mostly I would gasp.
tim pool
I don't know, but when I was a kid... Like, why do they scream?
The hypothesis from evolutionary psychology is that if a bear, if a threat, if a woman perceives a threat and she doesn't scream, she's more likely to die.
So screaming alerts the males of danger.
Crying does as well.
ian crossland
And they had kids.
The screamers had the babies.
libby emmons
The little girls in my neighborhood when I was a kid would have screaming contests.
unidentified
Oh wow.
libby emmons
Yeah to make sure and it would be dusk and I would be like at home because I had to be home by dusk and I would hear like these screaming and the neighbors would get so mad everyone be like you kids stop screaming we think something's wrong with you think something's wrong you think you need help and they were like it's just a screaming contest Mr. Lorio.
ian crossland
We would have peeing contests.
libby emmons
We didn't do that.
ian crossland
No, I can tell you.
Up on top of the clubhouse.
That's weird.
Yeah, I'd win a lot of those.
tim pool
Congratulations.
ian crossland
Get it into the cemetery.
Thanks.
tim pool
Into the cemetery?
ian crossland
Yeah, we had a cemetery in our backyard.
tim pool
You were pissing onto graves?
ian crossland
Never made it to a grave.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
It's a little too far out.
That's horrifying.
Anyway, my point was, I saw this story, I want to talk about it because I'm thinking like, it's been over a decade since the rise of wokeness.
And now we see like critical race theory, critical gender theory, but this is huge.
Because if they're willing to tank $90 million without, and they don't want anyone to see this, you know, maybe they're starting to realize it.
This stuff doesn't work.
libby emmons
The old stories are not bad stories.
The old narratives are there for a reason.
They've lasted thousands of years for reasons.
It's because we relate to them.
We understand them.
It's because they're part of the narrative that we use to tell ourselves the story of humanity and the story of our lives.
ian crossland
Did you guys catch Tomb Raider or ever follow that game or movie?
What's her name played?
tim pool
Angelina Jolie.
ian crossland
Is there like any desire or interest in like a woman with a sword that's a badass fighter?
For men, I feel like that.
tim pool
I recently watched Tomb Raider because it was recommended on Amazon and it's clearly just a movie for dudes.
Like Angelina Jolie's boobs are like mushed forward and pointy like the Tomb Raider character because they only had polygons or whatever.
They had very few polygons.
And there's actually, like, a scene of her just naked in the shower for no reason.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, the movie was clearly not for girls to be like, yeah, like, I'm gonna be strong like her.
And I was like, dude's watching a big-breasted woman.
libby emmons
But there are, like, there are fun movies that are, like, action-y, rom-com-y type movies.
Like, I was thinking about this the other day.
Remember?
tim pool
Shaun of the Dead.
libby emmons
Shaun of the Dead was great.
tim pool
Romantic comedy with zombies.
There you go.
libby emmons
I love that movie.
unidentified
See?
tim pool
Boom.
There it is.
Make more.
libby emmons
I've been told I have bad taste in movies.
I love that movie.
tim pool
That movie's fantastic.
libby emmons
It's great.
But what was I saying before I got sidetracked by that movie?
unidentified
Oh!
libby emmons
You remember how there used to be all those old movies with Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner?
What are you talking about?
ian crossland
What's an example?
What's one of them?
tim pool
Ant-Man!
libby emmons
He's in that.
They did a movie called Romancing the Stone, which was kind of like Indiana Jones, but they were teamed up at the beginning, and they hated each other, and then they fall in love, and everybody gets soaking wet in the waterfall, and there's diamonds and things, and then they go off on some paradise because they're rich now, you know?
tim pool
Is this what women fantasize about?
libby emmons
This is this is like what these movies were and they did very well.
tim pool
Now they're like, let's just have a woman be like a super ripped muscular boxer.
libby emmons
Yeah, who hates men.
ian crossland
Yeah.
libby emmons
And has absolutely and you can't tell at all what her priorities are or what she wants in life.
Like what do these characters want?
tim pool
And the men are one-dimensional, and they're like, you can't be a boxer, you're a woman!
ian crossland
According to Romance in the Stone, they want overcoming miscommunication, so like they didn't like each other, then they realize, oh, we actually do like each other.
They want adventure, and to be rich, and then to retire in comfort.
libby emmons
And to look good.
ian crossland
And to look fine while you're doing it.
libby emmons
Yeah, like Kathleen Turner in the 80s.
tim pool
There was a meme that might not be true, but someone posted on the internet, and it went viral, they said, the male power fantasy is to save Everyone, the children, the women, other men to put the fire out to be a superhero.
That's why guys love these movies, war movies.
It's to like save everyone.
And the female power fantasy is to be able to do whatever you want without consequences.
So in like a lot of romantic comedies, it's about the bumbling, you know, woman who just gets what she wants in the end, you know, through misadventure or something.
hannah claire brimelow
I'd argue that the woman in, I don't remember her name, but Gone Girl, like that female character is crazy to me.
I would watch her all day long because she gets to do whatever she wants because she's operating on a really intense psychological level.
I think women, I have never really been interested in watching girls fight like physical combat with women if you're if that's what you want to watch fine, but I don't think it has the same appeal for a female character as seeing female characters control a situation psychologically or through emotion.
I think that's much more of a feminine trait than seeing them punch someone and that's why when you see really well-written characters they are in some ways reflective of true gender norms.
libby emmons
I think that's really interesting.
ian crossland
I keep thinking about Game of Thrones.
You probably have seen it, if not.
But there's this character called Brienne of Tarth.
There was this woman that was like a warrior, and she was huge.
She's like 6'5 or something.
And she's pretty big for a woman, but they put her in this armor, and she could barely
move in the armor.
It was like grating and embarrassing to watch.
And society didn't want to talk about how horribly awkward it was to put this woman in this massive heavy armor.
She could barely move, but they were just like trying to shove it down my throat.
Like, this is what a woman warrior, like, dude, at least like put her in something she can carry.
So it doesn't look embarrassing.
Like, oh, it's just disgusting to watch.
It was really, really piss poor that they did that.
libby emmons
I'm sorry you had to watch that.
ian crossland
I didn't even realize how bad it was until halfway through this.
I was watching and I was like, I just can't lie to myself anymore.
tim pool
The casting of Brie Larson as Captain Marvel, for those that are familiar, just made literally no sense to me because she's like a short, frail woman who's supposed to be this great warrior, this massively super powerful being.
And I'm just like, pick your narrative, man.
What are you going for?
You're going for a short, very thin, frail woman They might as well have cast Kristen Chenoweth instead.
I don't know, man.
I think all this stuff's going to start backfiring on them.
Well, because no one wants to see it.
What was it?
Top Gun?
libby emmons
That did great, right?
tim pool
It was fairly generic.
They didn't even mention the name of the enemy country, but I think they did the same thing in the first Top Gun anyway.
And it was good.
It was just like a regular movie.
ian crossland
I thought what you said was very insightful that women, their power fantasy is manipulating people, as opposed to the man is fighting people.
Because like, I've been listening to a lot of psychologists, I think Jordan Peterson and other people have been talking about women, like high school girls will, their power thing is they will manipulate others and make other girls feel bad about themselves.
Whereas the guys will bully.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean you hear people say like with men and women like women are grudge holders right and like the idea it's kind of a stereotype but like guys if the if the argument gets really heated eventually they'll just throw punches and then it's kind of over right they have a way to physically de-escalate a situation where if with women we don't I mean some girls do I guess but like for the most part they aren't as prone to physical violence they are much more prone to like social and emotional manipulation because they are in some ways more in tune to that naturally and so like I just have never really understood these
Like, why the push to have women be physical fighters when they actually are crazy in another realm?
Like, they can be distracted elsewhere?
ian crossland
Maybe that's why, yeah.
tim pool
Didn't Oceans 8 make a bunch of money?
The all-female reboot of Oceans 11, like, actually did really well.
hannah claire brimelow
I thought it was bad.
libby emmons
Oh, I didn't see it.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it actually made a lot of money.
hannah claire brimelow
John Mulaney had this joke about, before it came out, like you could never have an all-female cast of whatever Ocean's movie because women, you know, there would be seven of them and then two would split off to talk, you know, talk about the rest of them.
It doesn't work.
It's not reflective.
I mean, with Thor, Love and Thunder, we talked like natalie portman got a lot of heat for like her arms actually it's right for the cgi whatever but that was interesting i think to a certain extent yeah i mean she's petite like even in i from i'm not an expert please no one judge me on this but like from the comic books it's actually like a six foot tall kind of like
much more athletic looking.
I imagine like a volleyball player body type.
And they chose that.
I mean maybe Natalie Portman is perfect for a lot of other reasons.
I can't speak to casting.
tim pool
They cast her in the role.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
But they were like it's better to have this very petite woman and then it kind of defies expectations because she's actually a great warrior or something.
Like I don't understand why this is appealing at all.
I don't I don't think it's that interesting.
libby emmons
There's another there's another like I think woman's power fantasy too that I think is very taboo to talk about
these days, but that we can hear in, you know, old pop music, for example, like if you
look at Amy Winehouse on Holy War, right?
So the fantasy in that song is that she's going to back her man no matter what.
If you look at like a song that I recently remembered and started listening to, I was
like, oh, this is great.
Midnight Train to Georgia, right?
Gladys Knight.
She's singing about how this man she's in love with is leaving LA because his dreams
didn't turn out right and he's going back to Georgia and she's like, I'm totally going
with him.
You know, I would never not go with him.
hannah claire brimelow
Songwriting is so much better.
libby emmons
You know, songwriting is great.
But Amy Winehouse and, you know, Gladys Knight and there's others, you know, like you hear
it I think in some Aretha songs as well.
But this idea that the fantasy isn't about your own aggrandizement or your own, you know, success or power manipulation, but, you know, your greatness lies in boosting your man, you know, and like the whole power behind the throne thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean, I think, I say manipulation, but like really women, if you think of like the stereotype of like hunter-gatherer, right?
The men go out and they have to, like, be physical.
They have to hunt and capture things.
But women stay home and basically hang out with the other women and the kids, and they have to keep an eye on what's going on.
Like, there is a different skill set that's needed to do that.
I don't—I mean, maybe they would fight in the village, but for the most part you really have to learn how to navigate socially.
That's why— Sorry.
tim pool
Just take a look at the noble domesticated fowl.
libby emmons
Oh yes, the chicken.
tim pool
The chicken.
And the rooster.
And now the rooster will run into danger, sacrificing himself to protect the hens.
When you watch the chickens eating, all the ladies are like pecking the ground and the rooster's standing upright just looking around.
He's like, ain't nobody coming near my ladies.
unidentified
That's really sweet.
libby emmons
Yeah, it does seem that way.
unidentified
At first.
ian crossland
Yeah, it does seem that way.
tim pool
At first.
At first.
But it is, it is.
I mean, and then he takes what he wants.
Sure.
You know what I'm saying?
And the chickens just, you know, they're like, oh, here he goes.
libby emmons
It's the chicken harem.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Do you think they think like, here he comes when he comes walking in the room?
tim pool
Sometimes they run and it's like really, really crazy to watch.
Like the chickens are like just frantic and the rooster's chasing them.
But no, like if a fox shows up, the rooster will run straight at it knowing it will die, giving the hens time to flee.
libby emmons
Have you seen this?
Has this happened on Chicken City?
tim pool
We had a hawk attack.
libby emmons
No way.
tim pool
And the rooster ran towards the gate and then stood in front of it making noises as the hens all ran in and then he went in last.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, it was crazy to watch.
He was like, not gonna go in until all the girls were inside.
libby emmons
That's cool.
tim pool
But like, the hens are really dumb.
So I think what he was doing was he went to the door, it was a small little door, To show them where it was, so they'll follow him and then he waits outside for them to get safe.
And then the hawk, I think the hawk actually got, hit one of our chickens and then wasn't able to get off with it.
And then the, you know, the rooster, Roberto, but Roberto has been retired.
He was just, he was banging his daughters too much.
libby emmons
Yeah, you can't let that go.
tim pool
Well, in chicken society, it's called line breeding.
It's kind of okay, but when he has too many kids, then it's like, okay, buddy, you're off.
ian crossland
But no thanks.
You were right about Ocean's 8, the all-women sequel.
It budgeted $70 million to make, and they made $300 million worldwide.
tim pool
Because it was about a bunch of women who are manipulative and catty and stole a bunch of money from dudes.
ian crossland
It made slightly less than Ocean's 13, but it also cost slightly less to make.
tim pool
See, there you go.
So you want to do a movie about women, make them sly and manipulative.
People are going to be all down for it.
libby emmons
Oh, and tell women's stories as opposed to like just grafting women on top of men's stories.
ian crossland
Yeah, I like the idea of supporting the man only because the man then supports the children.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean this is an old story, right?
This is like an old classic narrative like the there's the Bible story.
Who is it?
Is it?
I'm gonna get the name wrong.
Is it Esther?
It's one of them, right?
she ends up married to the king or whatever and he's not Jewish and she's
not his biggest fan but like he she ends up bringing him around and then he does
right by the by the Israelites and it all works out we should we should make a
tim pool
movie where it's like the main characters are the women who are married
to the superheroes and then like all the superhero stuff is just ancillary
libby emmons
background stuff like mob wives is that what it is I don't know, but it seems like that would be what that would be.
tim pool
And I was gonna say, but it's just like the women doing things that support the infrastructure behind the superhero.
And so it's more of like an interpersonal drama.
ian crossland
Yeah, the show should be called superheroes, but it's about the women.
libby emmons
No, this is a great idea and it shouldn't be called that, but I like this idea.
This would be a really fun film.
This would be a really fun film to write and to watch and to costume.
I mean, these would be great costumes.
tim pool
If it was like actually written as like a story women were interested in hearing as opposed to just like making the women big burly superheroes punching guys.
libby emmons
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I mean this is not a movie that Hollywood would produce right now because we aren't supposed to have women who are like secondary or playing wives and mother figures, right?
Like that's not supposed to be.
unidentified
But that's the story that most women are actually experiencing.
libby emmons
But it could start at like a kid's birthday party, you know, and like all the moms are coming over and there's like a pool party and all the kids have like weird Things they can do because their dads are superheroes and they're all just sitting there chatting You gotta have a villain like slams down from the sky and attacks the party.
ian crossland
That's if you want to get everyone to like it No, the the villain would be the wife.
libby emmons
I feel like it's always happening in the background The villain would be like yeah that would be the wife of the supervillain and she would come in and you would think she's the villain and then it would turn out that she's actually really nice and no no invites everyone to like the I don't know.
tim pool
It turns out the villain is the supervillain's wife, and the superhero's wife and the villain's wife are fighting because they were at a department store and there was one cute dress on sale, and the villain's wife bought it first.
unidentified
Okay, that's not... And now they just... You guys are out of the writer's room.
ian crossland
You're on the villain or playing cards.
tim pool
It's like a dude trying to write for women.
It's like you're off the edge.
libby emmons
That's not what it would be.
No, but it would be like this, you know... But if you want to go really classic, it would obviously, there would be some sort of a fair situation.
tim pool
An affair.
libby emmons
Yeah, so like the villain, the supervillain's wife is actually like having an affair with like the... Oh, that's actually interesting.
The Chad superhero.
Yeah, and also the Chad superhero's wife is actually like, she's the leader, you know, cause there's always a leader.
hannah claire brimelow
There's always a head of the girl pack.
libby emmons
So she's in charge and then it turns out and blah, blah, blah.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, actually it's much more interpersonal.
I get what you're saying.
libby emmons
It might be nice to have someone explode, but that's not... Yeah, and the top superhero's wife's best friend would start to know about the affair, and she doesn't know if she should tell or what's going on.
hannah claire brimelow
There's ethical conflict.
We're not complicated guys.
ian crossland
I don't know what to tell you.
libby emmons
But this would be a really good film, but the lighting should be really bright.
There should be really bright nature colors, almost a little overexposed.
hannah claire brimelow
And it's a weird suburb of some kind.
libby emmons
Yes.
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, I hope someone's writing all this down because this is this is gold.
We don't have to The thing is to like the the social consequences of the superhero dating a supervillain like having an affair with supervillains wife Yeah, and then his wife's friend finds out he's got to talk to her about it They get secluded in a room or just got to confront her what happens when the pop when the public hears that You know, he's intimate with you know, the family One time it happened one time It didn't happen one time.
libby emmons
And then you have like these great scenes like at a like at a rundown roadside motel, you know, and you have like the loud sound of cicadas and the weird guy who's like smoking cigars and it's sort of like the light is weird.
hannah claire brimelow
And then you cut to a scene of like their kids playing together.
ian crossland
But you gotta do a scene.
Someone commits suicide?
libby emmons
No, no suicide.
But like the villain's wife.
tim pool
Okay, yeah, I'll just give you- You gotta do a scene where, like, the wife of the Chad superhero, like, goes to confront him, and she finds him at this old motel, and it's, like, thunderstorming, and then she, like, catches him in the room, and then she screams, and she storms out, and then he runs out after her, and they're both in the rain, and he's like, don't do this, and she's like, you did it to me, and they're arguing in this rain pouring down, and then he picks her up, and they kiss in the rain.
libby emmons
Right, and then we have a, you know, stand by my man moment.
And the only way that she can stand by the man is they gotta get rid of the villain wife and now they're like supervillains.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's ultimately feeding the conflict between the supervillain and the hero.
libby emmons
Yeah, and then they leave town.
And then you have a sequel because now the villain and the villain's wife had to start over somewhere else.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, turns out they're villains!
They're into it!
They're swingers!
libby emmons
Yeah, but they still have to leave.
They can't go to the pool parties anymore.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And then you have the kids being like, why can't we play with Evil Junior?
libby emmons
I don't understand.
Evil Junior.
hannah claire brimelow
And you have this moment where you say, what do I say?
libby emmons
She only wears Versace.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, yes.
She's a wrap dress girl.
tim pool
All right, let's go to Super Chats.
If you haven't already, my friends, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com.
We've got some stories for you in the uncensored after show, which will go up at about 11 p.m.
over at TimCast.com, so sign up if you want to watch that.
And follow the show at TimCast.rl, yada yada.
Let's read some Super Chats.
ian crossland
All right.
tim pool
Let's see.
Matthew Reckamp says, with Convention of States looming, some people have been talking about a deficit tax on Congress as an alternative to a balanced budget amendment so that Congress would have an incentive to not overspend.
What are your thoughts?
I don't know what you mean by a deficit tax.
You mean like tax their wages or something?
Do you guys know what that is?
ian crossland
Sounds like that's what it would be.
Because unless you're going to go at their personal bank accounts, you would just be taking it from the taxpayer.
tim pool
Then it's just a bunch of rich people being like, I don't care about my salary.
Take whatever you want.
Oh, negative, whatever.
Yep.
Bear says, found a wiki that records all the politicians' ties, socialist, communist groups, AOC in photo with North Korean activists.
Check out keywiki.org?
Is that what it is?
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like I'm going to get a virus if I type that in.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
hannah claire brimelow
But maybe it's really useful.
I don't know.
libby emmons
What was it?
hannah claire brimelow
Keywiki.org.
tim pool
Crackerjack says, Tim, I'm now a proud member of timcast.com.
Have you guys ever tried Nordic bread?
It could be a good alternative to bread.
Love you all.
I haven't, but I've had skier before.
Have you guys ever had that?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
When I went to Iceland.
It's like their version of yogurt, I guess.
It's different.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's really good.
There are some grocery stores that sell it in America.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's see, let's grab some more superchits.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, I can't vote Democrat in PA primary.
WTF, other states?
Yeah, seriously, open primaries are messed up.
Monkey Ninja says, I'm from Kansas and usually extremely conservative, but voted no.
I can't argue for the right to defend my property against intruders and vote against women's right to do the same with their own bodies.
I don't know if that's the case, though.
I mean, the issue was the state Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution defends the right to abortion, and there would be an amendment saying the Constitution does not.
There would still be an issue of legislation in terms of abortion restriction.
hannah claire brimelow
West Virginia has a constitutional amendment that says there's no protection for abortion, but they do allow abortion in certain exceptions.
I mean, like, I think the fear behind a lot of what happened in Kansas was the push that it was, like, it's opening the door to a complete and total ban and, like, the panic that ensued.
I could understand if people said, you know, I oppose abortion for myself.
I wouldn't do it for myself, but I don't feel like I can keep other people from it.
And that's why you voted no.
libby emmons
But there's a I mean, a lot of people in Europe think we're absolutely insane for having areas in the country where you can have abortions through, you know, the end of the pregnancy, which is crazy.
I mean, and I think in Sweden, it's like 18 weeks.
And they're like, oh, we're so civilized.
In the U.S.
you can't have abortions.
And it's like, actually, here we can kind of do whatever.
It just depends on where you are.
It's very interesting.
unidentified
It is one of the side effects of federalism, really.
tim pool
True Halo says AZ is not an open primary state unless you are registered as independent where you can choose which party in the primary.
libby emmons
Oh, that's interesting.
tim pool
So maybe they registered as independents.
hannah claire brimelow
So it would have been 100,000 independents who were?
tim pool
I really doubt that's the case.
I feel like that's... I really doubt it.
Traditionally it depends.
A lot of people supported Obama.
But as an Arizonan, it's hard to vote for Carrie Lake with her past supporting Obama
or the child drag show Rumors.
She's also very flimsy on public education, which is a big issue in Arizona.
I love the show.
I've heard a lot of people talking about the past voting for Obama stuff.
ian crossland
A lot of people voted for Obama.
tim pool
I voted for Obama.
ian crossland
Yeah, I did too in 2008.
Yeah.
tim pool
And then 2012, I was like, well, that was dumb.
And then I was just pissed off.
And then when 2016 came around, I was like, get out of here.
I don't care who you are.
ian crossland
See if she supported the post-drone-bomb-psycho-Obama.
Psycho-Bama.
Or if it was 2008, hope and change Obama.
tim pool
No, no, look.
ian crossland
He had a lot of us.
tim pool
9 million people.
He got co-opted.
9 million people who voted for Obama in 2012 voted for Trump in 2016.
Trump was a moderate and a lot of people were waking up to reality.
I don't think it's fair to see somebody who is like, Hey, you know what?
I realized y'all were right about this.
And then be like, don't care.
You are forever tainted by being wrong before.
Like, nah, that's supposed to be the opposite of cancel culture.
So if somebody, you know, voted for Obama, I did.
And then I was like, well, that was dumb.
Like you'd be like, thank you.
Thank you for, for figuring it out and being correct.
You know what I mean?
All right.
Crumulus says, I sometimes despair being born in this time.
My generation will inherit a broken system.
We will fight World War III while our history and culture is erased.
The time is now to be a strong man.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Um, I disagree.
You are, you know, may you live in interesting times.
I think no matter when you're born, something's happening.
Imagine being a boomer and being drafted into Vietnam.
You know, I guess Gen Xers are like a lost generation, right?
Everyone forgets they exist.
libby emmons
We're a very small generation, and the reason for that, there's a couple of reasons.
One is the Vietnam War, so a lot of our would-be parents ended up being killed, would-be fathers rather.
Another reason is abortion was legalized in 73, right in the middle.
That's right.
And then also contraception, the pill, came in about the same time.
So there are a lot less Gen Xers.
Now on the plus side, we all got into college.
It was not hard.
That's a plus?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know if that's a plus.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you like that?
Was that good for you?
libby emmons
Yeah, because I would have had a real doozy of a time getting into college otherwise.
I believe I... Yeah, yeah.
I was accepted to pretty much one school that I applied to.
unidentified
Oh wow.
libby emmons
And so I went to it.
Nice!
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Limiting the decisions.
libby emmons
My mom made me go.
I didn't want to go to college at all.
But anyway.
tim pool
Here's an interesting one.
Mark Eckstein says, I'm an Arizona voter.
I had to declare party and was only able to vote in that party's primary.
I will admit I voted for Robson because I preferred her policies.
But when it comes for the general, I'm going to vote for the GOP.
Interesting.
I think, you know, I think Carrie Lake's great.
I don't know.
I'm not an Arizonan, so I don't know exactly what Arizonans need or want.
That's why I'm kind of like, well, I don't want to say too much.
I don't want, you know, to tell people in Arizona how to live their lives.
hannah claire brimelow
She's always been a really gracious guest when she's been here.
ian crossland
Yeah, personally, I like her a lot, but it's just kind of almost irrelevant to politics.
So I don't talk about it much.
tim pool
I wanna, I wanna come in and bring, uh, you know, fight, fight in West Virginia for, uh, you know, liberty, individualism.
I'm, I don't like that a lot of these schools, what's happening.
So I'll put it this way.
I really don't like the idea of being this, like, city slicker moving into West Virginia and then being like, nah, I'm gonna start voting on these policies and funding them.
That sounds terrible.
But then what I keep hearing from people is they need help because Michigan, I'm sorry, not Michigan, Virginians and Marylanders are coming in and bringing critical race theory into West Virginia because they're fleeing the states they destroyed with their garbage policies, going into West Virginia and then voting for those same policies.
And so they're like, we need, we need help, you know?
And I'm like, well, you know, we'll see what we can do.
We've got some plans.
Buy billboards all over the state saying Shelley Moore sold you out.
With that gun control garbage.
Alright.
What do we got here?
Lethal5670 says, I'm still trying to find the full bill to read, but Measure 114 in Oregon sounds like it will make us have stricter gun laws than California.
If it does pass, sounds like I will be homeless in West Virginia.
Constitutional care in West Virginia.
And a lot of people are homeless in West Virginia and live in trailers.
It's crazy when you go out to the middle of West Virginia.
It's the coolest thing ever.
I really, really love the middle of nowhere.
ian crossland
It's kind of like where I grew up.
Northeast Ohio.
As soon as you start to go like an hour west, it's just farm town, corn, trailers.
tim pool
I mean, and there's a relationship between- No, no, no, you don't understand.
I'm talking about in the middle of nowhere, there's no corn.
It's just like rocks and trees.
And then you're driving down these single lane dirt roads and there are houses.
and it's just like well water limited power and electricity generators like some of them don't even have on it on the grid they have like just big diesel generators or something it's crazy to see and there's a lot of people who live in little trailers it's really cool when we drove through the mountains uh in central west virginia and then you just come across an rv at the top of the mountain and i'm like how did they get that thing there dude we were at the gas station traveling across the country this weekend and like I just get this.
ian crossland
I see all these people pulling up all peacefully, getting their gas.
I'm like, what if we had no gas?
This whole society runs on gas, man.
libby emmons
The whole society would be a problem, yeah.
unidentified
In fact, it's way too vulnerable.
tim pool
All right.
Honk Goes the Dynamite says Rush Limbaugh encouraged voting in other primaries in 2008.
It was called Operation Chaos.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm not the biggest fan.
I think it's breaking the system up, but, you know.
libby emmons
Well, it is chaotic, apparently.
tim pool
I'm not the arbiter of morality here, you know.
libby emmons
It's funny though.
tim pool
Intelligible Noise says, here's my solution to strategic crossover voting.
Roll over all primary votes to the election day totals of the winner of said primary.
This would nullify tampering and make Dems vote for the GOP.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
By making Dems vote for the GOP.
ian crossland
Of course, if you vote for someone in the primary and they win, then your votes are automatically set for the general.
That makes a lot of sense.
tim pool
That's a good idea.
Yeah.
Yeah, so if you vote for Carrie Lake in the primary, you don't gotta do anything you already voted for.
And then everyone else who didn't vote for her gets to decide.
ian crossland
And it would make it way easier to count the votes for the general, because a lot of them are already done.
tim pool
All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, this is Way We Dig IRL, comedy over World War III.
We're having a laugh about something.
What are we laughing about?
libby emmons
We're having a laugh about AOC and Trump.
ian crossland
Our cats are girls.
tim pool
All right, Clint Torres says, Tim, I think I remember you mentioned something about having theological discussions last week.
Might I recommend a discussion with Father Mike Schmitz?
I love his Bible in a here podcast.
Is Bible in a year or Bible in a here?
He's the most trustworthy theologian I've ever experienced.
I think someone recommended we do like a special or something with him.
ian crossland
I got a theological question for you, Libby.
Jesus or Moses?
libby emmons
What?
ian crossland
If you had to pick one.
libby emmons
Wow, you can't pick one.
ian crossland
So you're good at answering questions in the way you want to answer them.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's correct.
tim pool
But what does that mean, Jesus or Moses?
ian crossland
What would you pick, Jesus or Moses?
tim pool
I don't know what the question means.
ian crossland
Who do you like better?
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
You don't have a preference?
unidentified
Who do you like better?
tim pool
Moses.
ian crossland
I did not pick Daddy Moses, dude.
unidentified
Why?
ian crossland
Because he was like the first.
He like, God spoke.
He was all tripping on the Acacia book and he like, He was a slave and then he found out here he was like raised by royalty and then realized he was like actually a Jew and when he's like had this ethical con- And he went out to find his brother.
libby emmons
Freed the slaves.
Yeah, dude.
ian crossland
Moses.
tim pool
I watched that movie with Christian Bale.
ian crossland
I haven't seen it.
libby emmons
But he screwed up, you know, he totally he smashed the tablets.
ian crossland
Did he kill his brother, Aaron?
libby emmons
He smashed the coming down off Mount Sinai when he found out that the Israelites were worshipping false gods.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
Because the Israelites, they always go around and screw up every time.
So I was during the pandemic, my son and I were reading the Old Testament.
And, you know, over and over again, it would be like, and the Israelites turned away from God.
And my son was finally like, that never works out well for the Israelites.
And I was like, no, it doesn't.
Let's just keep that in mind.
Doesn't work out well.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got Donald Duvall.
He says 1984 Mondale versus Reagan.
Reagan wins 524 versus 10 electoral votes, winning 58.8% of the popular vote.
If it was 2020, Walter Mondale narrowly wins by receiving more votes than any other president in history.
I think the, um, I think people need to understand about a 50 or 49 state landslide is that you don't need 80% of the vote to do it.
You can, you can win every state with 51%.
It's just, you just need to win in those states.
People don't get it.
So when we saw these big, these landslides, Nixon and Reagan, it wasn't, it was like, you know, 58%, which is big relative to what we've seen.
All right, let's see.
What is this?
Really Now says, one, more support for Timcast.
Two, officially asking Libby out for a drink.
libby emmons
Aw, that's really cute.
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
I just, I want to say now that I'm like, I get to say something.
Uh, there is no Jesus without Moses.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
That's probably true.
libby emmons
So that's, I mean.
ian crossland
Moses, dude.
libby emmons
You need them all.
You need them all.
ian crossland
You need people willing to break slaves free and flee across the world with them.
libby emmons
Well.
ian crossland
Give them a place to live.
tim pool
Here we go.
Oh, Hell No says.
libby emmons
And then Jesus broke us from the chain of our sins.
tim pool
The entire Alex Jones hearing is being recorded by cameras off to the side for a future Made for TV documentary.
The judge and prosecuting attorneys are even acting more dramatic just for that.
That explains it.
hannah claire brimelow
This is what I mean.
Like, I think they are trying to irritate him into having some big Alex Jones type ranty outburst that they can then use for something.
tim pool
This is why he shouldn't have given them this.
Does he think that they're gonna be like, oh, now we've decided that Alex Jones is right?
He should've just been like, nah, we're done.
Like, no movie for you, no made-for-TV anything.
Why give them that?
I don't understand.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
What do you mean, give him that?
Like, he acquiesced to doing this?
Could he have just settled out?
tim pool
I mean, my understanding is that he offered some extremely low number, like $10,000 or something.
But I don't trust the corporate press reporting on this, to be completely honest, so...
I don't know, man.
I can tell you this.
What I do know is that people who are, you know, associated with InfoWars told me things like people who work there said, Alex, you got to stop saying this stuff before the trial happened.
Then the trial happened and they show emails of exactly what was said.
So people who left InfoWars have been saying this.
It is what it is, man.
Dorian Holm says, hey Tim, have you guys seen the FBI's domestic terrorism symbol sheet that got leaked?
Recommend looking into it.
We did.
The Gadsden flag.
Yeah, I think the black and gold flag.
libby emmons
Revolutionary war symbols?
tim pool
Yep.
libby emmons
From the American Revolution?
That freed us from tyranny?
I mean, come on, that's insane.
tim pool
Waffle Sensei the Empirical says, I've always held that Alex is on the autism spectrum, and don't mean it disparagingly.
I mean, he has a superhuman memory, and that he can remember a news article from 15 years ago, but struggles translating it to people.
I gotta be honest, man.
I'm not trying to be mean here, but I think there's a drinking problem there.
ian crossland
I think he said that.
He said that explicitly, that his biggest problem was when he would drink and then do a show, because he would just say the dumbest stuff.
tim pool
He would be, he'd confuse stuff.
He'd forget stuff.
And so, yup.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
Dan says, sending my first super chat for Libby.
I'm trying to meet someone just like her someday, hopefully soon, before the world ends.
And then a bunch of heart emojis.
hannah claire brimelow
Please send all of your resumes, bank statements, and headshots to Tim.
He'll be screening all of Libby's suitors.
tim pool
Oh, not me.
No, we have staff for that, though.
unidentified
All right.
libby emmons
It'll be in your email.
Just be marked red.
tim pool
Logan Leroy says, Tim, I'm a med student at the University of KS.
I voted yes on the initiative that failed yesterday.
Some of my pro-abortion classmates brought in champagne to celebrate today.
Even if you support pro-choice, you shouldn't be celebrating abortion to that extent.
That's how I feel.
But the modern left is pro-abortion.
Just outright pro-abortion.
On the other hand, drink some champagne.
Yeah, I guess.
libby emmons
I mean, once there's champagne.
It's already opened.
ian crossland
Yeah, get it before it goes flat.
libby emmons
The bubbles are gonna die.
Yeah, you just gotta drink it.
tim pool
Greedo says, the missile had blades on it, no explosives.
Yeah, wasn't it called like a ninja missile or something?
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
What missile?
tim pool
A shredder.
The missile they fired to kill Al-Zawahiri.
It, like, they fire it and then it spins and fires blades and they just shred you to pieces.
libby emmons
That sounds like a weird Star Wars thing.
tim pool
Oh, doesn't Star Wars use energy weapons like lightsabers?
ian crossland
They do both.
libby emmons
Yeah, but then they do other stuff too.
ian crossland
Yeah, they have vibroblades, which are... Vibroblades?
Yeah, they just vibrate so fast that they cut through bone like butter, but they're not energy weapons.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Also, I heard in the Extended Lore they had, um, there were, uh, I think they're stormtroopers.
They fired slugs because the lightsabers couldn't deflect them.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
ian crossland
Yeah, ballistics are going to do well in space.
Energy weapons are great, but ballistics will go right through a hull of a ship if they don't have armor.
tim pool
Hmm, yeah.
ian crossland
I mean... They'll have shields that block the lasers, but then the bullets will go through the shields and hit the wall, so you're gonna need hull armor and shields.
tim pool
What sci-fi series did that?
I was watching it and they used bullets in spaceships.
I can't remember which one, though.
Recently.
libby emmons
It was a recent one, or you watched it recently, but it was old.
tim pool
Uh, maybe it was old.
Maybe, or maybe it was new.
libby emmons
It sounds like an old concept.
tim pool
No, no, it's a new, almost all space stuff was always like pew pew lasers and photon torpedoes.
This was like, they were shooting guns and I was like, they have no shields, it's just ripping through the hull.
You know?
Crazy stuff.
libby emmons
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Guns in space.
All right.
Jared Gutierrez says Pelosi went to celebrate giving access to over $2 billion in education to PRC.
Confucius Schools?
Why shoot down a person who just gave you money?
People are saying Battlestar?
Was it The Expanse?
Halo?
Firefly?
libby emmons
Oh, didn't they have Guns and Firefly?
ian crossland
It's kind of old west, that movie.
libby emmons
Firefly?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe it was The Expanse.
ian crossland
Serenity was the movie.
Firefly was the show.
libby emmons
Firefly was the show.
ian crossland
What a great theme.
libby emmons
That was a great show.
It was really a lot of fun to watch.
ian crossland
They made RimWorld, the video game, is basically based on Firefly.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a great game.
libby emmons
Interesting.
And then Serenity was the name of the ship, right?
ian crossland
I heard it didn't do well, the movie.
libby emmons
Yeah, who cares?
unidentified
I watched it anyway.
libby emmons
Relative.
ian crossland
But yeah, Serenity was the ship.
libby emmons
Yeah.
ian crossland
That was great.
Malcolm McDowell, is that it?
libby emmons
I would have watched a whole bunch more of that.
I think a lot of people would.
tim pool
Stacy Strickland says, previous conversation that mentioned restaurants in New Jersey.
Is it still hard to order sweet tea in northern states?
Random, but used to get looked at sideways and wondering it's normalizing up there.
I don't know.
I don't know anybody orders.
Luke orders half sweet tea.
hannah claire brimelow
I didn't know when you would get iced tea when I grew up in the northeast and I grew up in New England if you would have to ask for sugar to add it.
It's not like when they make the simple syrup and add it and it's always like that but I think the spread of some chain restaurants like I think Chick-fil-A always has a sweetened iced tea and I think that is sort of making it seem more normal and I think Some of the big brand name drinks also produce sweet iced tea.
libby emmons
I always drink unsweetened iced tea, and I'll ask at restaurants, do you have iced tea?
And they'll say, well, it's unsweetened, sort of apologetically.
And I'm like, good.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't want sugar.
libby emmons
Why would you put sugar in your iced tea?
hannah claire brimelow
I didn't even, I didn't have iced tea for years because my family like makes tea every morning.
tim pool
I read a story about a guy who drank nothing but iced tea and then he died.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
From what?
libby emmons
Really?
tim pool
He was like 88 heart attack?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
No, I'm kidding.
ian crossland
COVID.
tim pool
No, there was an actual story about a guy who was, he drank nothing but unsweet tea and he died in like his 40s.
And I think it was related.
That's what the story was about.
libby emmons
Like he didn't drink water?
tim pool
He didn't drink water.
libby emmons
Well, that's, I mean, that's a problem right away.
tim pool
He was getting some kind of buildup or something.
ian crossland
I did have iced tea over the weekend.
It was gorgeous.
unidentified
It was good.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
We got Thomas Williams says, I agree going after Alex Jones for false information about Sandy Hook.
I also want the same standards for all major networks, MSNBC, CNN, so on.
Your false opinions have consequences.
Your false opinions are protected.
In this instance, it was that Alex Jones said definitive things.
Now, I think what they're arguing is, and again, I don't know every detail of the case, he was saying that he was like reading things from his audience and stuff like that, and then asking questions.
And I think they determined, look, the standard for private citizens is way, way lower than for public figures.
Maybe he could have argued involuntary public figures like they did with the Covington Catholic kids and apparently getting away with it because those cases are getting dismissed, but you know.
libby emmons
I'm hearing that it was Battlestar and the recent Battlestar.
tim pool
Recent Battlestar?
libby emmons
The recent one.
With the blonde girl that was Starbuck?
Yeah, that had Kara.
tim pool
Well, that's not real.
That was 20 years ago or something.
libby emmons
Yeah.
ian crossland
But not the one from the 70s.
It's the remake, though.
libby emmons
But that they had the bullets.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
There was something else I was watching recently, though.
Had bullets in space.
I don't know.
Maybe it was like a low-budget movie.
I can't remember.
I watch random stuff on Amazon.
Stefan Buksev says, regarding Alex Jones, talk to Barnes.
He explains really well how he's getting railroaded.
Technically, the judge has already broken Texas law regarding how he has tried.
Too long of an explanation for a super chat.
Interesting.
ian crossland
So, appeal on the horizon?
tim pool
He's in Texas?
hannah claire brimelow
This case is in Texas, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
I thought people were sitting in Connecticut or something.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the previous case was, I remember, He didn't show up to it in person, which is okay, and there's some back and forth, but there were two separate legal motions, and this one is in Texas.
ian crossland
People are saying it's the Expanse.
I don't know, they could be wrong, but a lot of people just... Yeah, I mean, maybe both.
Common sci-fi theme.
tim pool
Trox says USA will not let Taiwan fall.
Taiwan invasion equals World War 4.
We have already had a cold World War 3.
We have been putting this war off, denying Taiwan independence.
ian crossland
I don't agree with that.
I think that it's just one of these colonization tactics and it's been planned for a long time that China, it's part of, I mean it's right next to China.
tim pool
China's taking Taiwan.
libby emmons
Yeah, they definitely are and there's nothing we can do about it.
ian crossland
Yeah, they're moving industry to the states.
The last few months they have been, they're just preparing for the transition.
libby emmons
We just don't have the leadership to do anything.
tim pool
Donald Trump said he would nuke Beijing if they tried.
libby emmons
Yeah, and he was the crazy person with the knife.
tim pool
And he was like, maybe they believe me 5%, but it's enough.
Yeah, that was, I don't know, man, it's kind of scary.
libby emmons
It was enough.
tim pool
Even the left, they were like, Donald Trump could start a nuclear war.
And I'm like, yeah he wants you to think that he might he just might it's like but that like doubt was really to his strength right like even if it's only five percent well it's like you were saying if there's a crazy guy like if you're if you're if you're building on your block is on the corner and there's a crazy looking guy twirling a gun around and he's like shaking it and pointing it around you'd be like from that guy yeah you're the one house not getting robbed because like a crazy guy you can't argue with
You know, if they saw somebody, they'd be like, I bet I can take him.
But a crazy guy who was just like shaking his gun, you're gonna be like, I'm not going anywhere near that guy.
libby emmons
That's right.
I actually saw a guy in my neighborhood the other day and he, uh, he had what looked to be like a little machine gun type of thing.
And he was like pointing it around and stuff.
And it took a while before I saw that it had like a orange tip on it.
And I was, I was like, I, this is totally freaked out.
ian crossland
I've heard kids get shot, or one guy in particular, I think it was in Ohio, got shot for that.
A cop saw him and thought he had a real gun, so he killed him.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's happened.
ian crossland
Oh, that's nuts.
libby emmons
My kid's not allowed to take his Nerf guns to the park.
ian crossland
Geez, not in this era.
No way.
tim pool
Alright.
DieselAddictRyan says, Chicken Ian, the hero we didn't know we needed until we saw him.
Long live Chicken Ian.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
People were I saw I saw like libertarian people sharing the cartoon.
So for those unfamiliar at Chicken City YouTube channel, there's a cartoon we asked an AI.
I typed in like the parameters like Ian Federal Reserve chickens, and they wrote this very like it wrote this story.
It was like one day Ian went to school and he was bullied by you know, a rooster.
And so then we turned it into a cartoon, and then Ian goes on this rant about the Federal Reserve, and then the chickens take over the Federal Reserve.
ian crossland
I think that the A.I.
wrote the story, and then Kent wrote the dialogue.
Was that right?
tim pool
The A.I.
wrote the premise.
ian crossland
And then Kent, shout out to that dialogue.
tim pool
Ian the chicken goes to school and was bullied, and then all the dialogue was written by Kent.
Your graphene book bag?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That's great.
ian crossland
I wanted to make it into a show, because that was really hilarious.
tim pool
Yeah, cool.
ian crossland
I want to rename the character from Chicken Ian to something like Wilbert or something.
Rooster Ian?
tim pool
Rooster Ian, right?
Yeah.
Big news, though.
We're filming our music video.
We filmed half of it for the song that we're putting out in a couple of weeks.
It's really, really good.
I'm really excited.
Pete Parata is going to be here.
He's an amazing drummer.
Super excited to have him.
And we're getting the big crew, we're getting the fog machine, and we're filming a music video.
On Saturday.
In a haunted house.
It is going to get hot.
There's no air conditioning.
ian crossland
Perfect.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like an old 1800s farmhouse.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And we filmed the first part of it in disrepair, and now it's been partially renovated for this second half of the video.
ian crossland
Let's get a huge fan.
We'll set up a huge fan that's blowing on us while we're playing.
tim pool
We're going to get a couple portable air conditioner units so that we can film this because it's going to be an all-day thing.
We've got to move stuff around and play the song like 10 times, but I'm really excited for this.
And then the ad run we have in Times Square, it's going up probably August 21st, images from the video.
It's going to be really amazing.
Super excited for this.
And, uh, good music.
Really great music.
Carter Banks is an amazing, genius music producer.
So, we're really excited for this.
Really excited.
Let's grab some more Super Chits.
Type 54 Blackstar says, I mean at some point it would be nice to get an FFL.
Luke wanted to buy one.
I don't know if I can pull that off.
What's FFL?
Federal Firearms License.
I think that's what it stands for.
vote per party. Tim, are you still planning on getting your FFL? I mean, at some point
it would be nice to get an FFL. Luke wanted to buy one. I don't know if I can pull that
off. What's FFL? Federal Firearms License. I think that's what it stands for. You have
to buy it? You register a business and then you go through the hoops and then you can
have a license for selling guns.
libby emmons
Oh, interesting.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a federal firearms license.
tim pool
Yeah, depending on what tier it is, you can have suppressors and short barrel rifles and all these crazy NFA items.
And then there's even an application to apply for a nuclear weapon.
libby emmons
Or like robot, robot autonomous, autonomous robot weapons.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, probably.
I mean, it'd be really cool to have a bunch of those robot dogs.
hannah claire brimelow
You just want that dog, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, I'm down.
libby emmons
I'm freaked out by them.
You've seen those Boston Dynamics videos.
We were driving by there, going to see family, and I was like, oh my goodness, look, it's Boston Dynamics.
Terrifying.
ian crossland
Did you see the video where it has the mounted machine, or semi-automatic?
libby emmons
Yeah, great.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think it's a fully automatic.
tim pool
All right, let's grab one more here.
We got Mike DeRusha.
He says, $99.99 says Tim won't talk about how Brave New World is happening in real time.
Sexualized kids, world government, eternal youth, government-mandated drugs change my mind.
Well, we have talked about that quite a bit.
The only thing is, we like to point to Luke Rutkowski's shirt where it shows all of the dystopian novels as a Venn diagram, and in the middle it says, you are here.
Because it's not just Brave New World.
It's a little bit of everything.
So my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show if you really like it, and head over to TimCast.com.
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We'll put it that way.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCast Libby.
Do you want to shout anything out?
libby emmons
Yeah, I want to shout out thepostmillennial.com.
You should come check us out.
I'm at Twitter.
Oh, and it's just my name, at Libby Emmons.
You can also come check out humanevents.com.
We're doing a lot of really interesting op-eds over there that I've been loving seeing that work.
And that's pretty much, yeah, that's it.
That's my whole shout out.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm going to plug TimCast.com.
I'm there five times a day.
You can click on the read tab and see not just me, but the rest of the news team hard at work.
And I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.b.
ian crossland
It's a good week, you guys.
Get involved.
Get engaged.
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tim pool
Nail it.
ian crossland
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tim pool
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