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Timcast IRL - Chinese News Threatens To SHOOT DOWN PELOSI's Plane w/Ben Stewart & Lauren Southern
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ian crossland
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tim pool
Chinese state media threatened that China the PLA would shoot down Nancy Pelosi's plane if she tried going to
Taiwan and And Chinese state media is CCP, which is effectively their government.
So I didn't want to put a headline being like China literally said they'd do it.
It's Chinese news that's saying they're going to do it.
But it's basically the propaganda mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist Party.
Maybe it's all bluster.
But Pelosi's trip to Taiwan is shaking things up.
The U.S.
has redeployed a strike group into the South China Sea, so naturally tensions are hot.
And maybe it's meaningless, maybe it'll just be more bluster, or maybe it's the start of something serious because, I don't know, there is conversation about the fourth turning.
We got that to talk about.
We also got the House just passed an assault weapons ban.
It's expected to just collapse in the Senate 50-50.
So we'll see.
And there's the filibusters.
It's probably not going to go anywhere.
We'll talk about that.
And then Tucker Carlson.
Oh, Tucker.
He said he wants to rename, or no, he literally said he did a poll, and they renamed Monkeypox to Schlunkovid.
Well, everybody's mad.
They're saying Tucker is homophobic for doing it.
A lot of people find it funny.
We'll talk all about that.
Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com.
Become a member if you would like to help support our work and get access to our uncensored After Hours show.
And in that, I will lightly address a little bit about last night.
Simply put, I guess that's something that you can't say.
It's that simple.
I posted on YouTube.
The issue was YouTube censorship policies.
We took the show down.
There's an hour-long members-only show where we talk about a ton of things, not just that.
I don't want people to think that the full explanation is just the members only.
But the issue is, well, I can't repeat what was said.
We try to avoid highlighting these things.
We don't put targets on our back, but I know that people want some kind of explanation, so we are exacerbating the problem by addressing it live, but that's a reality.
And, you know, I'll just say...
For people wondering, you know, like, why don't you just go live again or why not?
It's like, okay, well, after the show goes down, we have to figure out what's going on with the guests.
We have to figure out where they're going, what we're going to do.
And considering the volatility of everything, I was just like, we're not just going to restart this.
Because, you know, Well, I mean, I'll put it this way.
Every guest is given the walkthrough of, like, look, this is a live show, broadcast to hundreds of thousands of people, reaching over a million people every night, and you need to treat what you say like you would any other live show.
And I think because of the relaxed nature of it, some people don't.
And so I'll just, you know, fully come out and say it, like, it's been a stressful couple of weeks, and having that happen, I was just, like, ready to pass out right here.
And so when we did the members-only segment, it's because people pay for a members-only segment.
I'm not going to not deliver that for people who have already paid.
We have a lot of members.
And it was really chill and easy, just like to riff.
And if you watch the members-only thing, you'll see me basically just venting about the stresses that we're dealing with.
So, you know, long story short, If someone comes on the show and, you know, we give everybody, like, a 10-minute spiel about, like, here are the things that you will get knocked down for, here's how, you know, like... We're not saying, for the most part, like, don't say things.
You know, like, we even tell people they're allowed to swear, just try not to.
But if someone comes out and overtly says something, there's nothing I can do about it.
It's just like, OK, so here's what we're going to do.
Because we're idiots, we actually don't have this, but we should, like any other live show.
There's normally a simple app that creates a lag between the video as it's recorded and then what goes live.
And all the producer has to do is just press the button, and it just snips the frames So if someone says something super egregious, like a threat, they can just press a button and then it just disappears and the show keeps going.
So that's what we're working on.
And truth be told, it's something we should have had a long time ago, but we're like, I don't know, just winging it this whole time, in case you haven't realized.
So that's me addressing to the best of my abilities.
We go into greater detail in the Members Only thing, but only because we're kind of venting.
It was Brett Dasovic, it was Andy, who's our CTO, and us just kind of talking about life and stuff, and it is what it is, I suppose.
But we're going to talk about news, and also we're going to talk about the apocalypse.
Because Vegas flooded, and there's apocalypse talk we can have.
So joining us tonight is Ben Stewart.
benjamin stewart
What's up everybody?
Ben Stewart.
You can go to benjosephstewart.com where I give you the news, but I also get into alternative topics such as mind bending practices, psychedelics, and alternative history.
So go over to benjosephstewart.com.
I also, on my YouTube channel, Ben Joseph Stewart, you can find I put out a weekly news show and do Thursdays.
Podcast 5 p.m.
Eastern every Thursday live with some amazing people all the way from UFC fighters to people in the psychedelic movement So check it out right awesome to be back Lauren's back I am.
lauren southern
I'm back.
You know who I am.
Lauren Southern, also known by the audience, hopefully lovingly, as Paper Cup Pappy Girl.
But we drank it all with Ned last night.
We drank it all!
All of it at the Paper Cup Bar.
We're going to be having some Patron.
tim pool
Grand Patron.
lauren southern
Grand Patron, not just Patron.
And we're going to be mixing Manuka honey in it.
We're getting fancy over here at the Paper Cup Bar.
tim pool
That's $600 honey.
lauren southern
Yes.
tim pool
Lauren's like, how expensive can I make a Paper Cup drink?
And I was like, well, that costs $600.
lauren southern
We're going to keep upping the ante every show.
tim pool
I feel like honey in Grand Patron probably would be really good.
lauren southern
I think it's going to be good.
I might mix you a paper cup too here.
benjamin stewart
You can do that and I will take it.
tim pool
You said Manuka honey is not the best tasting?
It's bitter.
It's like expensive imported Australian medicinal honey.
ian crossland
That is like the most medicinal Manuka I've ever seen, and it's also the bitterest Manuka I've ever tasted.
benjamin stewart
So you take this rectally, right?
unidentified
Oh gosh.
tim pool
Absolutely.
lauren southern
What you're telling me is I'm making myself a health drink.
lydia smith
Yes, that's what I'm getting here.
tim pool
Well actually, alcohol, my understanding is, in small amounts, is good for you.
It lowers cortisol.
So, you know.
lauren southern
I wonder if this will be good for me after we did that legal like heroin medicine that you made me have today.
unidentified
NAD.
lauren southern
NAD, whatever that was.
tim pool
We hooked Lauren up to the NAD and she was groaning and screaming.
lauren southern
That was honestly the most painful thing I've ever done in my life.
tim pool
It hurts.
lauren southern
Yeah, it's not great.
Easily, it's up there.
ian crossland
How would you explain the feeling?
lauren southern
Well, Tim said it was going to be like period pain, which I don't know.
tim pool
No, I didn't say that.
That was not me.
I said if that's what period pain is, y'all got nothing to complain about.
lauren southern
Oh yeah.
No, it's way worse.
And I don't know how you weren't, you were playing video games the whole time as I couldn't even move.
I was, Oh, and you know what?
Okay.
You guys need to understand this.
Tim just sends me a message saying, Hey, want to do NAD on Twitter?
And I have no idea what it is.
And I thought it was like a show or something that he started and I didn't want to be like, Oh, I don't know what that is.
So I just say, yeah, sure, man.
tim pool
You got it, buddy.
lauren southern
Yeah, you got it.
I show up and they have like needles everywhere.
unidentified
And I'm like, what is happening here?
lauren southern
Little do I know, I'm about to be hooked up to an actual torture device for two hours.
Groaning.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know how you do that, man.
tim pool
And I got it.
I got it.
I'm sorry, Lauren, but you went slow.
Like, Rogan talks about how he cranks it up to full speed and slams it in 20 minutes.
So for those that aren't familiar, it's nicotinamide adenide dinucleotide.
It's what your body turns B vitamins into, and it's like a rejuvenation thing you can get.
And Joe Rogan talks about it quite a bit.
Apparently he smokes pot and then just cranks it all the way up.
But it's painful, so they give you painkillers.
My explanation is it feels like you turned around and there's a bear.
Like that feeling you get when an adrenaline rush hits you?
That, but for like an hour and a half or two hours.
lauren southern
It's excruciating.
Yeah.
It feels like the top of the roller coaster when you're going down and it just doesn't stop.
And your whole stomach is just doing that churn thing repeatedly.
I have never, I can rarely remember any points in my life where I've like yelled at a nurse and being like, stop it!
Make it stop!
tim pool
You went, you were like, crank it up.
And the nurse was like, no, I don't want to do that.
And you were like, do it.
And then she was like, I'll do it a little bit.
unidentified
And then you went, ah!
You gotta know.
tim pool
And then Lauren was like, are there only two settings, zero and 100?
That's what it felt like.
lauren southern
I actually had a proper panic attack when I saw her leave.
Because I can't move.
I literally couldn't move my body.
And I'm like, I'm going to be trapped in this hell.
And she's gone.
And there's no one that can turn this down.
Dude.
tim pool
Well anyway, so Lauren's here.
benjamin stewart
And she's treating it with some Grand Petronas and Manuka honey.
tim pool
This is the funniest thing because it's like, it's a vitamin drip.
You get like B vitamins and it's like hydrating.
So like afterwards, I feel great.
We had hibachi, grilled meat, and sushi.
And Lauren's like, I'm gonna drink.
ian crossland
It's, uh, NAD is a precursor to a protein that's called their sirtuins.
There's these proteins your body has, and the protein measures the amount of energy in your cell.
So when your cell divides this protein, these sirtuins want to make sure there's enough energy in both of the new cells.
If there's not, then they have to clip off at the end caps of the chromosomes to compensate.
And that's what they call aging.
So having enough of these proteins because of the NAD as a precursor will longevity thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Accuracy.
It's supposedly it reverses and reduces aging.
lauren southern
Yeah, so you can do two things as a rich, famous person.
You can torture children for adrenochrome, or whatever it's called, or you can do NAD.
I'm pretty sure they're all just doing NAD.
You guys can know that Tim's doing the eternal life the proper way, not killing children.
tim pool
Right, right.
ian crossland
There's a lot of research out of Harvard on it, and they'll mix it with intermittent fasting, berberine, or what's it, metformin is a diabetes medicine, but the berberine's the plant they derive that from, and resveratrol.
And they've even had experiments on dogs, and they find life extension in dogs and stuff.
Fascinating.
So you look young.
tim pool
So Lauren's here.
lauren southern
I'm here.
Sorry.
unidentified
That was a very long introduction.
ian crossland
I didn't get the NAD, but I am Ian Crossland.
Also happy to be here.
unidentified
Let's talk.
lydia smith
Yeah.
NAD is a trip.
I'm glad Lauren survived and we have her here with us again tonight.
I'm excited to talk about the apocalypse.
Let's go.
tim pool
Alright, so over at the Daily Mail, they reported it.
let me read the headline. China says it will shoot Pelosi's plane down if she travels to Taiwan under
US fighter escort. Speaker refuses to confirm trip. Quote, if US fighter jets escort Pelosi's
plane into Taiwan, it is an invasion. Hu Xijin, a commentator for the Chinese state-affiliated
Global Times wrote on Twitter, the PLA has the right to forcibly dispel Pelosi's plane,
and the US fighter jets, including firing warning shots and making tactical movements of obstruction.
If ineffective, then shoot them down, Hu said.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Pelosi has not confirmed reports she will travel to Taiwan.
But the other news is that the U.S.
has sent a carrier and a strike group to the South China Sea.
So it does seem like things are escalating a bit.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is apocalypse night here.
Las Vegas flooded.
There's like war with China.
There was an op-ed in the New York Times that said Pelosi's trip to Taiwan is too dangerous.
So I'm wondering if you guys, what do you guys think about this?
I do kind of feel like China's bluster.
Come on.
Some, some CCP state media guy saying he's going to shoot down Pelosi.
Yeah, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
You said at the top of the shows, this is not the CCP that said it was, it was a news media organization.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
This is the CCP.
ian crossland
Oh, I thought you said it came out of the news media.
tim pool
So, so my point is, If you have a company in China, it's the CCP.
ian crossland
Oh, that I agree with.
Yeah, but this wasn't like the party.
tim pool
This is state propaganda.
ian crossland
State propaganda.
tim pool
So what I want to be careful of, it's not Xi Jinping, the government, or the PLA coming out and saying, we will shoot you down.
It's their propaganda arm saying, we have a right to shoot at you.
And if it doesn't stop you, we can shoot you down.
ian crossland
And they also, this says that they'll shoot at her plane if she goes there.
But then later in the thing, it says we'll shoot at her plane if she brings fighter escorts.
So that's a different situation.
If she just goes in without escorts, maybe there's not.
tim pool
Saber rattling.
Or the fourth turning.
benjamin stewart
Totally the fourth turning.
Actually, what was it?
Tony Robbins just had on... Who's the surviving one?
William Strauss?
Or Neil Howell?
lydia smith
Oh yeah, Strauss' High Theory.
benjamin stewart
One of them died, yeah.
One of them died, but the other one was just talking about Tony Robbins, and it's getting kind of real in this fourth turning.
But apparently it ends 2028?
ian crossland
Neil Howell's the one that's still alive.
tim pool
Yeah, if it ends 2028, we're in it.
So I don't know, 2026 is... I've heard 2026 is when things are going to get absolutely bonkers.
benjamin stewart
I just did a piece on this on my YouTube where 200, I think it was Glubb, I forget, like Sir John Glubb, he studied empires, the rise and the fall of them.
And he said that 2020 or 250 years is the maximum lifespan of a country.
The United States will turn 250 years in 2026.
So that kind of coincides with that.
I even wrote down some other things.
We meet all the criteria for an empire in decline, like, you know, massive complexity that just seems unsustainable, supposedly climate, deforestation, environmental degradation, and then changing relations between friendlies and foes, or heightening tensions between them.
And there's other things in there.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, cultural collapse, wastefulness, a lack of decorum.
I mean, like, yeah, decadence.
benjamin stewart
Debasement of the currency.
tim pool
Like, imagine a young woman pouring expensive honey into a paper cup with really expensive liquors.
Right, that show's based around decadence.
benjamin stewart
What a woman she would be.
ian crossland
What an animal.
benjamin stewart
And there's one other funny thing, going back through Rome all the way through many other empires, apparently in the late stages of it, they all seem to highlight chefs.
They make celebrities out of their chefs.
tim pool
Oh, I read that.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
It's just some weird anomaly.
tim pool
No, I yeah, man.
I wonder if there's like an emergent phenomenon around food and chefs and like so much.
Well, you're you're so comfortable.
You're entertained by taking food to the most extreme levels.
It's pure gluttony.
lauren southern
And then also turning like animals into babies.
Like how many times have you seen little dogs in like cradles, like all dressed up and everything?
benjamin stewart
That's got to be a sign of an empire in decline.
lauren southern
Yeah, the chef celebrities and baby pets.
ian crossland
I noticed, like, when I watch these survival videos of people, like, carving, building their own house with their axe and stuff, and then it'll cut to them, like, frying really crappy spam or something in a pan, and then, like, cooking and eating it, and I'm like, this is not appetizing.
Why is this part of the video of them, like, cutting up their meat?
I guess it's like people want to know what it's like to live out in the woods and hunt and cook your own stuff, but...
tim pool
That's that's like the opposite of decline, like watching a video of some super ripped dude killing a deer and then eating it.
ian crossland
But it'll this will be like he opens a can of tuna and then has some carrots like frozen carrots and he'll be cooking it in a pan.
Okay, so that's what well, this is like chef in decline.
tim pool
It's post-apocalyptic.
ian crossland
This is like Celebrity Chef type stuff.
lauren southern
The real Celebrity Chef is making the cakes that you can't distinguish.
I could cut this right now and it could be a cake and you just don't know.
benjamin stewart
Isn't that a Netflix show?
unidentified
It is!
tim pool
Are you serious?
Have you seen the video where the guy, he's watching the videos of people like cutting a shampoo bottle on his cake and he looks shocked and then he like grabs his phone and squeeze it and it's cake?
Why are they highlight chefs?
grabs his TV remote, squeeze it, it's cake, and he starts panicking, and then he looks down at his butt,
and he grabs his butt and it's cake, and he's like, ah!
lauren southern
That was really funny.
Can't trust anything.
tim pool
Yeah, everything is cake.
benjamin stewart
Everything is cake.
ian crossland
Why are they highlight chefs?
What's up with this?
benjamin stewart
I think Tim's onto something there that, It wasn't John Perkins, it was somebody else that was saying there's this feeling, whether it's a nation or an empire, that times were great, we were great, but no one's feeling it anymore.
There's another one, mercenaries.
When you have to start hiring mercenaries for fighting your wars for you, Ben, did you see that they're having serious problems recruiting people for the military?
They've lowered the education standard, they've lowered the fitness standard.
part of the bread and circuses thing.
lydia smith
Did you see that they're having serious problems recruiting people for the
military? They've lowered the education standard. They've lowered the fitness
standard. We're going to have wars fought by mercenaries in no time.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that.
Actually, what's interesting, I was in the military from 2000 to 2006, and everyone that, like, when I got basically to my unit, everyone was saying like, yeah, you know, you kind of went through the, you know, the piece of cake boot camp, where they can't touch you, they can't hit you, they can't push you, and like, you didn't need to do, you know, even half as much of the running as we needed to.
So even back then, about 20 years ago, Apparently, it was like a shell of what it used to be, boot camp.
lydia smith
Interesting.
ian crossland
We had Blackwater fighting a huge part, or at least if not fighting the war in the Middle East, they were like functioning as administration for a while.
I mean, that's mercenary work.
tim pool
Well, look at Ukraine.
American citizens are on the ground in Ukraine, but the U.S.
is like, we didn't send them there.
They're not officially ours.
And it's like an international cohort of Individuals fighting this war.
ian crossland
But so you said countries got 250 years.
But what about like France, which had 900,000 years?
benjamin stewart
Well, it's empires.
It's not countries.
It's empires.
So like other empires are still around, you know, other like Great Britain's still around, you know, but has the US been an empire for 250 years?
tim pool
It hasn't.
benjamin stewart
Well, not, not an empire.
And that's a good point because, uh, 17, I don't, I don't know when they start the clock either.
tim pool
Right.
benjamin stewart
When you are officially an empire, cause I know 1776, I guess you wouldn't have called the United States an empire, you know?
tim pool
It wasn't, it wasn't until I think like the 1900s that the U.S.
went totally empirical.
ian crossland
1946 even.
tim pool
Who was that?
Who was that guy that everybody hates?
Woodrow Wilson?
ian crossland
Oh man, yeah.
tim pool
Everybody hates that guy, right?
ian crossland
Really, it was like after World War II, they realized if we don't become a world order, empire, whatever, that we're gonna have World War III.
So they were like, liberal economic order, which you could call an empire.
We got military bases all over the earth, sign of empire.
tim pool
The liberal international economy.
ian crossland
Yes, the lie.
The lie was established in 1946.
benjamin stewart
It's also, this is a different world than all the other empires when we were, you know, like mapping out this 250 year lifespan as well.
I mean, when you're talking about nations and empires, you're also talking about like major economic blocks, like transnational economic blocks.
tim pool
I also want to point out, isn't it that empires last 250 years on average?
benjamin stewart
Is it?
tim pool
Well, I mean, the Soviet Union lasted 69 years.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
tim pool
And that was massive.
I mean, they were spreading all over the planet.
Remnants still exist in some fashion today.
The U.S., I mean, I wonder if the 250 years thing is based upon the extent of communications without electronics.
Right?
So all of these big empires communicated through letter delivery, carrier, horseback.
Now we have rapid communication.
That causes things to evolve much more quickly.
Especially now with the internet and social media, it's just ramping up faster than... So, I mean, you think about Franz Ferdinand, right?
He gets shot.
How long did it take for everyone to find out?
Probably not that long relative to now, but it was lightning speed relative to previous conflicts.
Telegraph, radio, word went out to their countries really quickly, but how long did it take for regular people to find out?
Yo, if we had something like that happen today, it'd be on social media the moment it happened.
Everyone would see it.
So it's even faster.
That anger, that animosity, the conflict can spread instantly across every person.
So you think about the conflicts we've had in this country.
Sentiment for Civil War, right?
In the United States.
How long did it take for an idea to go from one person to everyone in a city?
To make it from New York to, you know, Illinois or to, you know, down to Florida.
Like those ideas to change and then create rifts probably took a really, really long time.
lauren southern
Well, you look at like the first Persian Empire and one of the biggest reasons they collapsed internally was because of all of these internal rifts they were having, rebellions, they were taking slaves and bringing them into their military and making them mercenaries as we were talking about.
And now because of technology, like you're saying, we're having this ramping up of that kind of stuff and rebellions like Black Lives Matter internally.
causing rebellion within the US. All of these. And then we also have information that shows us that you have Russia,
China potentially pumping money into these internal rebellions
that we're facing in the West. And you're right. We're gonna have
basically a repeat of what caused a lot of these past empires to collapse on crack because of the technological...
tim pool
It's the waiting I can't stand.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, yeah, just bring it on.
tim pool
Ian's talking about a guy in the woods, like, cracking open an old can of tuna and putting carrots in it, and I'm like, sounds pretty good.
ian crossland
I wonder if this is actually an American empire, or if it's just the British Empire.
Enmasked with the American military.
The British Empire is actually an empire.
benjamin stewart
That's part of it.
There's also a math equation.
This one guy, it was an old TED Talks, but he was saying even in a bacterial petri dish, mismatches between resources and consumption cause things like five generations in, or before the decline, the population is doubling every single generation.
And then five generations before the decline, the food declines by 15 16ths, the next generation by three fourths.
And it's empty in the next generation, or in the next generation is about half.
And then the following generation is the mathematical conclusion of it.
I don't know if that if that Petri dish is a one on one parallel to what we're dealing with, but Well, so you've heard that wealth lasts three generations, they say, right?
tim pool
The first generation is, you know, comes up, figures it out, works hard, and then has that within them, this individual.
They have kids.
Those kids learn a lesson from the first generation.
They inherit the wealth, and they know a little bit enough to kind of just sort of maintain it.
Now you have another generation, and they're learning a lesson about a lesson.
It's a copy of a copy.
And so by the third generation, they have no idea how the empire was built.
They have no idea how to start a company.
They don't have the same life lessons.
So I have to think about this too.
You know, I hear stories about people who they're like, I was a college dropout and I was poor and I worked hard and then now they have kids and those kids are children of the wealthiest people on the planet.
They're not going to learn the same lesson.
Like Steve Jobs was homeless.
He was like sleeping on couches and floors.
And then he had that fire within him, and ruthlessness, let's be real, his kids, I don't know, I'm assuming he has kids, but the children of these people don't have that.
They grew up in luxury.
benjamin stewart
Totally.
lauren southern
I know it's such a tired analogy, the good men, bad times thing, but they've got another Arab parable that's just like what you're talking about, where it's like, I'll ride a camel, my son will ride in a Toyota, his son will ride in a Ferrari, and then his son will ride a camel.
And there's a reason that these parables exist, though.
The good men, hard times, whatever.
It's because it's just what happens every damn time and humanity keeps trying to tell us we've lived this story a billion times.
But all right, guys, good luck.
Do it again.
Have fun.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying, like, when I have kids...
Like, I'm gonna kick him out at three years old and be like, here's a bandana, a trowel, a pack of seeds, and a pointy stick.
benjamin stewart
Maybe a match.
tim pool
You know, no, but in all seriousness, what we do is we take the newborn, we put him in the woods for a day, and if he survives, he's strong enough to join the tribe.
benjamin stewart
That's some George Carlin logic.
tim pool
No, no, that was the Spartans, I think.
They did that, right?
If the baby didn't survive, like, out in the wilderness, it wasn't strong enough.
And then, you know, nothing crazy like that, but I certainly think you gotta teach, I mean, like, hard labor.
Like, good manual labor chores, lifting stuff, shoveling, mowing the lawn.
You gotta teach kids, you know, those kind of lessons.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
tim pool
Should we let the cat in?
I think so.
lydia smith
It's Bucco time!
unidentified
Why is he trying to- Does the cat get to join the show?
tim pool
It's because Ian started giving him water and now he's coming on the show every time.
Let's pull up this next story here and talk about the decline.
We got this from TimCast.com.
U.S.
House passes first assault weapons ban since 1994.
Laughable, stupid, and a waste of time.
And apparently some Republicans even joined in to support the Democrats banning... nothing?
lydia smith
Bill makes no sense.
tim pool
Yeah, so I think this is a really good example, not of disarmament, right?
A lot of people are saying they're trying to, you know, I think Luke tweeted this, they're going to try and disarm you for their depopulation agenda or something.
And I'm like, no, I think it's nonsense.
It's logicless.
They're not doing anything.
This bill bans half, it'll, like Thomas Massey pointed this out, the Mini-14 receiver is banned, but the Mini-14 receiver is also not banned.
In the same bill!
And verbatim.
So, Massey points out, the Mini-14 with a pistol grip and a collapsing stock is an assault weapon, so it's banned.
The receiver of any such weapon is also banned.
But the Mini-14 with a rifle stock is not banned, and the receiver of any such weapon is not banned.
And so he points out, he's like, so how is the identical receiver both banned and not banned?
And they have no answer.
They literally just don't answer it.
lauren southern
It's all political moves.
It's like, obviously, I'm in Canada, but right after you had the shooting in Texas at the school, Trudeau came out and banned transfer and sale of handguns or proposed a ban the next day.
And it's like, Why?
We're talking about a shooting in another country using a gun that's already banned in our country, and you're going to put a freeze on sale of a handgun that are rarely used for shootings in Canada at all, where we don't have a problem with this?
Completely political!
And it seems like the US are doing that too, even though sometimes I feel like you guys have better laws around guns, better understanding, and then every time I think that, your politicians go and do stuff like this.
tim pool
I just gotta say it.
Every time Trudeau does a press conference, it sounds like he's trying, like he's talking to someone he's about to rape.
But I'm not trying to be, like, when he was like, we need to ban all the guns.
It's like, it's the voice someone has when they're grabbing the woman like, just relax.
Let me do this.
lauren southern
Put down the weapon, lady.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm taking your gun away from you.
And then it's funny because you guys up in Canada banned guns like around the same time it was like Uvalde, right?
Trudeau announces their freezing handgun sales and it was obvious it was a response to a U.S.
news story.
But he also had previously complained up in Canada that Canada, with the trucker protest, is that American politics are seeping into Canada.
lauren southern
So true!
tim pool
Yeah, and then he comes out and it's like, come on dude, spare me.
I think this assault weapons ban is a perfect example of what the Democrats are.
They have no logic to their morals.
We're all trying to figure out what are the rules and how do we live together.
Among the Democrats and most of the left, it's just pure tribalism.
So they're like, we're banning guns?
Excellent.
Does it make sense?
Who cares?
As long as you agree with thing.
Current thing.
Current year, current thing.
ian crossland
If there's a bill that is proposing to both ban and not ban something, you've got to discard that stupid bill or at least remove that section from the bill before you can move forward.
You can't even vote yes or no on something like that.
tim pool
It's going to be really funny when someone gets arrested with a mini 14 receiver and then they like sue and they're like, well, What's the logic there?
Is the logic that if it says it's not banned, but then it says it is banned, therefore it is banned?
You know what I mean?
Like the negative is stronger than the positive or something?
How does that, how does this even work?
lauren southern
I don't think they care.
Yeah, I don't think they care.
tim pool
No, I want to point something out too, because, um, I think we have this tweet from Ian.
Let me see if I can find it.
I don't know where it's at.
Yeah, here we go.
This is perfectly in line with what we're talking about.
Check this out.
Ron Filipowski, uh, what was it named?
Filipkowski, says, Lauren Boebert wants the House to pass a rule to give her five days to read a bill before voting on it.
He didn't say much after that.
He just said this thing.
But you'll notice a lot of the comments are people saying like, this is ridiculous.
I can, you know, I can read a book in a day.
But then Ian chimed in.
Ian, of course, you should read it.
It's your tweet.
ian crossland
Yeah, it should be a felony for congressmen to vote on a bill they have not read.
I want them under oath acknowledging they've read the bill before voting.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Interestingly, when Ian chimed in with that one, then you get some unity.
Everyone's like, yeah, actually, that makes sense.
But the crazy thing to me is there are so many people responding to Ron Filipkowski just making fun of Lauren Boebert for saying something that is quite possibly the most logical and bipartisan thing ever.
ian crossland
Yeah, I was actually very pleased with the response to this because like Ron has a Ukraine flag in his profile.
So there was a part of me that was like, oh geez, should I just assume he's some zealot?
And it's like, you know what?
What he said is just neutral.
I'm going to respond neutrally.
And then people in the comments, you see people with Ukraine flags saying, yes, this is actually a great idea.
You see people that are like, I'm a Christian conservative.
This is a great idea.
Like I said, in their profile.
So it's just a, it's an American idea.
And I think it's an idea that, that justifies or that supports like liberty.
You cannot have ignorance in Congress.
Absolutely.
At least five days.
lauren southern
I'm shocked that that wasn't a rule beforehand.
Like the idea that they're passing these absolutely critical rules for your country and it's like not even a few days to decompress and think about it.
Maybe they can read it in one day.
Great.
Can they think about it and really weigh the moral consequences of the stuff they're putting into your nation?
tim pool
It's worse than you realize.
Because Marjorie Taylor Greene pointed out to us... There's a giant cat butthole in the camera, by the way.
Marjorie, what are you doing?
Marjorie Taylor Greene pointed out that oftentimes when they're passing bills, they don't even have anybody in the room.
It'll be like three Democrats and three Republicans, and someone who's not even the speaker will be like, oh, we got a bill here, it says this, and they go, eh.
Oh, it passes.
And so what they've been doing is the Freedom Caucus has like a watch where they go down and call it's they they call for like a roll call vote or something where they got to force all the members of Congress to come back in and actually vote on these bills.
lauren southern
Actually do their job.
tim pool
Yeah but they're still not reading them.
ian crossland
That's the crazy thing.
Absolutely unconscionable and people have pointed out in this Twitter thread as well that this is something that should have been enshrined in the Constitution from day one.
lauren southern
Just assumed that they would be reading the bills because that was their intention was like what how could they never how could they not you know as I I would like to see a, I don't know if you guys have any knowledge of like, if you could compare, you know, the beginning of the US, how many bills were being proposed and passed at the start versus now.
I reckon it's like a mass ramp up and stuff.
Because it's super easy to just like roll out that rug, right?
Oh, we can just Pass and do things every single day, but it's super hard to roll it back.
And I don't think things were initially like the Constitution was put in place for a country operating like this, where it's like, ADHD, let's just pass things and propose things all over the place every day and not even think about it and have this 24-hour news cycle where it's like, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
ian crossland
They also put, like, a thousand things in one bill.
So they'll call it—the amount of—maybe they have less bills now than they used to, but that's because they've got 500 times the amount of stuff in each bill.
tim pool
But let's go back to what, you know, we were just talking about a moment ago.
The collapse of an empire.
There's certainly no country when the members of Congress are more concerned with fundraising phone calls than reading the bills.
Laws are being passed that no one even knows about.
The omnibus spending bill gets brought in on a wagon.
It's like a red... They brought it in on a wagon.
5,000 pages.
So, when your country's doing that... I'll put it this way.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Our members of Congress don't read the bills.
They're not there to vote on the bills.
There's a porous southern border.
So, first, we have no legislation.
They're not actually doing their job.
Next, we have no country.
A nation with no border is not a country.
That's how country is defined.
A nation with defined borders.
A nation is a group of people with shared history, culture, and laws.
We don't have shared laws anymore.
Some states have disregarded half the laws.
Sanctuary cities, sanctuary states.
I gotta tell ya, I think the US is basically like someone took a figurative mountain and just splattered it all over the place and now it's a big random hodgepodge of nonsense.
So I mean look, the constitution is swiss cheese.
Our politicians don't do their jobs.
The Democrats are calling the Supreme Court illegitimate even though they're functioning as the Constitution dictates.
Doesn't matter.
None of it matters.
ian crossland
Did you see how they're shipping illegal immigrants?
They've been busing illegal immigrants from the southern border to D.C.
and other big cities.
And they just called in the National Guard in D.C.
Miriam Bowser, is it Miriam?
tim pool
Muriel.
ian crossland
Muriel Bowser requested the National Guard to like 4,000 immigrants.
lauren southern
When I was in Tapachula, I was meeting with a few immigrants that had been deported after a few years in D.C.
and the States because a lot of them have their court cases in D.C.
So they know, yeah, I'll cross the border and I might get kicked out because I have no standing.
I don't even qualify as an economic migrant.
I don't qualify as anything.
But they know that they'll have to be taken to D.C.
to hear whatever case they have for a few years and they'll get to have a good time there.
This one guy I was speaking to was trying to get in saying he was attacked by gangs, but Half of them are actually part of gangs and just try to use a bad experience they had with MS-13, despite being a part of it, to get in.
And he's like, yep, I'm making my way back up again.
At least I'll get to spend a few years in D.C., you know, waiting on my trial.
Will be fun.
You know, I'll get some food and board.
Good time.
tim pool
I can't be mad about this because the cat crawled in my lap and so I'm just, you know... Peace.
The story should be really disconcerting and distressing, but I just... You kind of look like Dr. Evil, though.
unidentified
Someone said, good evening, Mr. Bond.
tim pool
I've been expecting you.
ian crossland
Yeah, people, more cats.
tim pool
Adopt a cat.
lauren southern
One thing that's really interesting to look at, beyond cat conversations, One thing that's really interesting to look at is there's, I think it's the Syracuse Institute that cover it, the level of what judges allow migrants in versus which ones don't.
You can look at some of the comparisons and there'll be some judges that accept like 99% of applicants And some that reject 99% and only accept 1%.
It is actually just a game of luck.
It's like going to a freaking casino, whether you're going to get in or not.
You can compare, like, female judges to male judges, which county they're in, and it has almost nothing to do with the application that these migrants put in or illegals put in it.
Everything to do with the judges' feelings.
ian crossland
Will there be people that come and try and get legal recourse, they get denied, and then they just come back and try to go to a different judge?
lauren southern
Get a different judge, basically.
And they can get it the next time.
ian crossland
I'm concerned because what is the solution?
Like, globalization on some level is functionable.
You know, we're expansionist by nature.
I think expanding liberal democracy, Americanism, whatever, the U.S.
Constitution could be good.
But like, how do you defend I know one way to defend a border that the Romans tried.
I mean, it used to be pretty brutal, and that's not... Soldiers?
Yeah, yeah.
Weaponry.
Like, defense.
tim pool
Carrie Lake is talking about sending the National Guard down to the border, declaring an emergency, an invasion.
Let me pull up the story here.
We got this from NBC Washington.
Ian just mentioned it a moment ago.
D.C.
may request National Guard to help with migrants' bust to Capitol.
A lot of people are laughing about it, saying it's like, it's irony, it's funny, or Texas and Arizona's plan is working.
Let me tell you something.
Texas and Arizona could be busing the migrants back to where they came from, to their home countries.
Sending them to DC is helping the Democrats in the Biden administration with their immigration agenda.
They are basically saying—so Texas is like, we're going to send these migrants to you, D.C., and then D.C.' 's like, thanks for the help.
We're going to then distribute, you know, these people around the country where we see fit.
lauren southern
What this means is— To places we don't live.
It's true.
tim pool
The way it's supposed to work.
You get in line and say, I'd like to come to this amazing country.
We say, let us figure it out and give you the best possible place so that everybody thrives.
What the Democrats in the Biden administration are doing is they're saying, just let everybody come in and then we'll sort them out later.
No rules.
No rules, rules.
And then Texas and Arizona are like, we'll show you Biden.
We'll actually pay for the buses to send them into the country.
unidentified
Ha!
tim pool
And then people are laughing about it.
And I'm like, dude, you're just helping them.
Texas and Arizona could more easily.
It is a longer bus ride to DC.
I feel like people on the right are being duped into thinking that plan was a good plan.
lauren southern
There's a few things.
I'm not so sure how it applies here, but I know when I was covering migration issues in Europe, one thing all the migrants would do is they would destroy their passports before coming in and touching ground in any European country because they had basically been told, well, if you don't have a passport, they don't know where they can deport you to.
And so there are some tactics that migrants will use to try to prevent deportation, so I'm not sure how difficult it is for these states to do that.
If they are trying to apply legally to get in but don't have standing, it would be much easier to deport them.
But then if they're going in and claiming asylum status, there still has to be some sort of court case, which is the problem, because they still have to be held somewhere.
tim pool
Our goodwill is being taken advantage of.
People who are coming here are not asylum seekers, they're economic migrants.
I get it.
I'll tell you this, I have infinitely more respect for them than the modern American leftist that hates this country, but there still has to be a process for the sake of maintaining what this country is.
If it's good, and, I mean, our economy's not so good these days, but still better than other places, well then, there's a reason why it is, because there's a system in place.
If people just come in, start ripping apart that system, it's the decline of empire.
I mean, actually, wasn't the Roman Empire dealing with immigration crisis?
ian crossland
Hugely.
It was the fall of the empire.
It was all the northern, like, I don't know who was it, not the Vandals, people in the northeast.
But basically, after the empire had spread all throughout the Eastern and the Western Roman Empires, the empire split in half, but then it just like, over the next 200 years, people just kept pouring across the border.
And then they would set up their new government like their foreign government in Rome in the Roman territory.
Then all of a sudden you realize it's not Roman territory anymore because it's that other government is now running the show.
benjamin stewart
Rome also had like bureaucratic complexity that wasn't sustainable past a certain point and part of that is like... Sound familiar?
Yeah, and kind of what you're talking about, like when you're saying the culture is part of what holds people together, that's like the story.
It's the agreed-upon story.
It also lends into why at first you don't need to hire mercenaries because the story is strong and people believe it.
And then after a while, when you get a certain critical mass of burn it down, this place doesn't, you know, people in the country disrespecting the story of the very country or the nation.
That's when it starts to come apart is when the belief that this is even a good thing that we're upholding.
And then what you were just mentioning about like at the beginning of the nation, how many bills were being passed.
Well, it also feels like that the Constitution was there to say that this is what the government is and that's it.
And then it just kept growing and growing and growing.
And then a lot of people, they need to secure their position.
So keep passing bills, keep making your job position relevant.
So that complexity grows, not because I believe in it and I believe what this nation could be, but a lot of it is self-preservation.
So it builds this bureaucratic complexity that just can't sustain for very long.
tim pool
A lot of people are commenting saying I'm wrong.
States don't have the authority to deport people.
Only the federal government does.
But I kind of... I don't know how that makes sense.
I mean, I accept that I may be wrong on that.
I just mean, like, the states have to have the ability to be like, you just illegally entered.
Turn around and go away.
You know what I mean?
I mean, I guess, but Biden doesn't seem to care about it.
So if you're, I mean, look, Carrie Lake's talk, at the very least, I'll put it this way.
Fine.
Maybe they can't legally, but couldn't they just Anyway, I don't know.
I don't understand.
lauren southern
Well, they're getting steamrolled by the federal government on every single level.
I mean, even before migrants are entering Texas, they are getting cash-based interventions
from the UN, whose number one funder is the United States and their government, right?
So American tax dollars are going to funding migrants' trip from South America and Mexico.
You know, Ian, you talk about the fall of Rome a lot, right?
handing out these cards in Reynosa at migrant camps, debit cards from the UN so that they
can make it there.
You can look this up on the Center for Immigration Studies.
It's a real thing.
Your tax dollars are directly going to funding illegal migrants' journey up into Texas.
tim pool
Okay, hold on, hold on.
You know, Ian, you talk about the fall of Rome a lot, right?
And it seems like what happened with Rome was that migrants started coming in.
What if our adversaries studying that said, here's a way to destroy a country.
Started funding mass migration.
lauren southern
But the U.S.
is funding it.
The U.S.
are the number one, you know, funder to organizations like the U.N.
who are giving the money to the migrants.
So why are the U.S.
destroying themselves?
I don't understand.
benjamin stewart
That's a great question.
And like, is the U.S.
a singular thing anymore?
Or is it an organism attacking itself?
lauren southern
Why is Tim smiling like that?
tim pool
Because I'm seeing all the comments people are making about Bucko.
lauren southern
He's giving this like ominous smile like he knew something.
unidentified
I'm petting the cat while smiling.
tim pool
People are posting like emojis and stuff in the chat and making jokes about Bucko.
lauren southern
He's very pleased.
benjamin stewart
So Bucco doesn't seem to care.
lydia smith
Law enforcement officers cannot arrest someone solely for illegal presence
for the purpose of deporting them because it is a civil violation.
lauren southern
Didn't they have a something in place where during covid they could
like turn them right around though?
lydia smith
Yeah, so there was like a title 42.
lauren southern
Yeah, but they got Biden got rid of that.
tim pool
I don't think yet.
I think not yet court blocked him.
benjamin stewart
He's trying to we should hire mercenaries on the state level to remove base.
tim pool
Here's what I'll say though, you know to people who are saying that we can't deport them.
Okay.
Well, I'll say this wouldn't they be better off being detained or something or in some way organized in such that we can Try and reduce crimes, try and stop criminals, try and vet them in the natural process.
Like, what I mean is, if we catch a bunch of illegal immigrants, our duty is supposed to be like, okay, let's figure out who you are, what you're doing here, and go through that process.
Why just send them to D.C.?
The Biden administration has been smuggling children, trafficking kids on military aircraft around the country.
It just feels like you're paying half the bill for them because that's what they're trying to do.
Now they're going to call the National Guard and it's going to take more taxpayer dollars.
Their attitude is probably like, oh, we don't care about that.
Like you're sending migrants to us?
Okay.
We think them calling an emergency is something bad for them, but they're probably just like, cause to do in business.
benjamin stewart
Hmm.
lauren southern
Was it?
Okay, wait, I'm like looking this up to make sure this story is real, but I heard that Israel was doing like re-migration where they were paying people to go back to their home countries for a while.
lydia smith
I heard that Denmark is doing that because they actually do want to encourage people to go back to wherever they came from.
Denmark doesn't really want a lot of immigration to their country.
I guess they've really been overwhelmed.
tim pool
Denmark saw what was going on with Sweden with those grenade attacks.
lydia smith
Denmark knows what's up.
tim pool
Yeah, it's crazy.
So when I was covering the Sweden stuff, we were staying in Copenhagen for a little bit, and when you're going into Sweden, they stop you and they check your IDs, because they're worried about the people who are coming in and out of Sweden.
There was a few months before I had gone there, someone threw a grenade onto a balcony, killing an eight-year-old English tourist.
benjamin stewart
Oh, I heard that.
tim pool
Yeah, grenading was a huge problem.
I don't know if it still is, but it was a huge problem several years ago.
lydia smith
I think it still is.
benjamin stewart
My wife is Dutch and she's, I mean, she's been seeing it for years, her and her family, is that the immigration waves, it's really like the cohesiveness that you would have had in these neighborhoods before starts to come apart.
The story, you know, that binds them all together starts to come apart and it's interesting because also Holland and several other places out there is where the thing with the farmers is happening.
tim pool
Cops shooting at them?
benjamin stewart
Right, you know, we're about to run out of food, so the best thing is to stop farmers from doing their job.
tim pool
It's almost like it's on purpose.
Zuby called it a controlled demolition.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, that's what I mean.
If you listen to Katherine Austin Fitz, and I know I mentioned her on this show before, She worked under George W. Bush in the 90s, I think doing HUD or something like that.
But she said she started getting some of her peers telling her that the United States is over, we're removing assets to offshore accounts, and we need a bunch of forward-facing, like public-facing events that will have the public not looking at what the real perpetrator was.
So, she's been saying this for years, and she's probably one of the most coherent speakers on the topic, as you can get.
And she was even saying with the BLM riots, I think I might have mentioned this before, it was like 34 out of 37 of the riots happened within just a very small perimeter around the central banks there.
And her theory was, you know, it just makes it convenient that, like, all this territory can be built up as the smart grid, which is what the whole push is.
So build it up as the smart grid.
Buy up this, you know, lawn paw shops, the infrastructure.
tim pool
Destroying the businesses and creating crime, which drops property values so they can be bought up and turned into a smart grid.
benjamin stewart
That's what she says.
Like, I wouldn't go so far as to say that, you know, but I mean, I wouldn't deny that that might be an angle.
But this is Katherine Austen Fitz, you know, having worked under George W. Bush, I'm sorry, Herbert Walker Bush in the 90s, saying that she's been tracking, like, where did that well over $21 trillion of the federal budget go?
You know, she's the one that's been tracking all that, so.
ian crossland
She was the Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Housing under George W. Bush.
lauren southern
I saw a joke on Reddit.
Some guy was saying, when my rent prices start going up, I'll just go out into the neighborhood and fire a couple shots off to lower the housing prices.
tim pool
Where it's like, some guy's like, I rented an apartment, heard a gunshot, ran outside, and the guy next door said not to worry about it, it was him.
They just tried to keep the rent prices low.
lauren southern
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.
Oh, also, I just want to confirm, because I don't want to put fake news on the Timcast, right?
Israel did have a policy where they were giving financial aid to African countries to send back African refugees and migrants.
They weren't even sending them back to their home countries.
They were like, screw it, just a place in Africa, Rwanda, Eritrea, it'll work.
We'll give you aid.
So like, if Israel can do it, why can't we just do it?
We'll give you a bit of support.
We're sending them all back.
tim pool
Send them all to Puerto Rico or something.
Puerto Rico doesn't matter!
I wonder if it can be solved because as strict as Trump was, we still saw a massive influx of migrants, the caravans, all that stuff.
You know, Trump was very serious.
Build the wall, deport them, you gotta go home, you can come in legally, all that stuff.
And during his presidency, we had videos of people charging border guards, like migrant caravan running full speed and attacking U.S.
border guards.
lauren southern
It's happening every day.
When I was just down there in December and what's going on is, like, you drive on the highway from Tapachula up to northern Mexico, you're going to run into a caravan every 20 minutes.
I'm not even joking.
But what's going on is they'll block the highway to try to get buses north and they'll pressure the government.
Oh, these are major shipping routes.
If you don't give us a bus, you're not, you're basically, your country is not going to be able to function.
So they'll get them buses.
But what will happen is then those buses will start to transfer to come and get
the caravan and another caravan will block those buses on the way up and then they'll have to negotiate with those
guys and it's just absolute chaos there.
So when I make jokes about, oh, we need to just start deporting people and do this, we honestly do need some sort
of policy that is a yes or no, open or closed, because it's actually destroying every country in between.
between. It's destroying Mexico, it's destroying the lives of these people who have no idea
what the actual immigration system is in America. Is there an immigration system? I'm seeing
my cousin, my nephew, everyone get in by walking in and when I apply legally I can't get in,
so I guess that's just how the US works. I'm going to do that. Everyone's life, migrant,
refugee, Mexican, American is getting destroyed by no clarity on this issue.
ian crossland
It's really, really harsh reality because if you just say don't come in and then they
do it anyway, what do you do?
You arrest them and then you deport them. And then say, please don't come back. And then they come
back and you're like, what do you do? Like at a certain point we're being attacked. I know. Right.
tim pool
So the cost of either integration or repatriation is extensive for us. We have to pay for planes.
We have to pay for buses.
We have to pay for border guards, for police, for places where these people can stay.
We have to pay for medical treatment for their children.
And they just keep coming.
I'm like, we got a serious problem that's not being dealt with.
I mean, look, we got this story right here.
From NBC News, Biden administration to fill border wall gaps near Yuma, Arizona.
Let me just break the story down for you in a simple tweet from Defiant L's.
Kareen Jean-Pierre tweeted in 2019, where are the pesos for your bigoted wall to rail Donald Trump?
Today, she says that they're filling major gaps in the border wall because Biden is trying to save lives.
These people have no logic.
There's no morals.
It is just whatever their tribe wants.
Meaningless.
But I'm curious your thoughts on this.
Like, why would the Biden administration be doing anything in filling gaps in the border wall if they're failing us to this degree?
I have no idea.
Is it like their quota is done?
Like, okay, that's all we needed.
Close the walls, you know.
lauren southern
Well, I mean, the truth is that the issue of illegal immigration has been a football that's been passed back between Republicans and Democrats for years, and nothing really changes when it goes back and forth.
It's always been a disaster.
It's always been a massive problem.
Honestly, something that's not really recognized is the southern border program that Obama brought in place in 2014 was actually massively successful.
He reduced illegal migration from Southern America by 70% by putting mass funding into Checkpoints, walls, patrols down on the Guatemalan border.
So there are actually, if you look back and forth between Republicans and Democrats, their policies aren't that different.
The whole thing is just a disaster that they're all terrified to address in a strong, confident way because no one wants to be seen as the president that stopped all of the poor refugees or children from coming in, whatever the policy will be publicly, but they know they can't just have Millions of people with no jobs, no background checks, nothing, sitting in Texas.
tim pool
I figured it out.
Remember that story we were talking about the other day where Mexican citizens were getting angry that Americans were coming down and they weren't speaking Spanish?
Biden's building the wall to stop Americans from escaping.
He's like, no, they're trying to get out!
lauren southern
Quick, put the wall up!
tim pool
Gotta bring them in.
Gotta bring them in.
benjamin stewart
Oh, man.
tim pool
Yeah, the interesting thing is why, even if they want immigration for like, supposed economic reasons, why all from Central and South America?
Like, there's tons of immigrants from European countries that would love to come here.
I mean, there's tons of Ukrainians that would love to come here.
So I have my friends who are in Europe talk about how difficult it is to get a visa to fly to the US.
And they say, you know, everyone knows you fly to Mexico, you can walk in and you're fine.
But when you try to do it legally, they make it difficult, like impossible.
benjamin stewart
My wife is still going through immigration and it's been since 2017.
tim pool
And you said she's from the Netherlands.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, that's an EU nation.
benjamin stewart
That should be easy.
tim pool
Yeah.
benjamin stewart
Right?
tim pool
Walk right in, welcome.
benjamin stewart
And she speaks perfect English.
ian crossland
And she's married to a US citizen.
benjamin stewart
Right.
And we have three kids.
unidentified
Wow.
lauren southern
The cartel offer like full board deals for people that are typically from Asia, Arab countries, a lot of places.
You can pay like 50 grand to get trafficked through Mexico into the US.
As someone that has money that just doesn't want to wait for the official system.
I was meeting Nigerians in Reynosa that were like, actually, I'm just walking up to Canada.
This is just easier than applying for a visa.
I'm visiting a friend in Nova Scotia, is what one guy told me.
And he figured he'd take the route through Mexico and through the U.S.
instead of just waiting on a visa because it was easier.
tim pool
It's just crazy.
You were looking at Americans who are fleeing into Canada.
lauren southern
Americans fleeing into Canada?
tim pool
Yeah, didn't you go up and track that story or something?
lauren southern
Oh, Haitians!
That was a while back.
Yeah, there were Haitians walking through Roxham Road up into Quebec, I believe, that felt they were going to get deported by Trump after their refugee status had gone up and they were going to get sent back to Haiti.
We opened our whole stadium there for them, and it was wild because You could literally just take a taxi to this suburban neighborhood, walk across this pathway, and the Canadian police were sitting there and they'd pick up your luggage for you and just walk you down to the stadium and give you a bed.
We have no borders.
It's all a joke.
I don't blame any migrant for coming in illegally when this is what they watch on the news.
It's like, okay, I guess this is how your system works.
Your cops are literally waiting there for us with buses and will take our luggage for us.
And this happens in Texas too.
They've got buses ready to transport them.
They're like, come on in, whatever.
ian crossland
What would they have done in 1960 if this was happening?
lauren southern
We had very different immigration in 1960.
Like, it wasn't, you know, we didn't have the mass welfare states that we do now, right?
If you came in, it was like, you're working or you're dying.
So we didn't have so many people that didn't have jobs and didn't have support systems migrating.
It was people that were ready to come in and die or work, right?
But now they're getting unemployment or like... Now that we've got massive support systems, the immigration is very different.
tim pool
OK, what if We built huge treadmills.
Or, you know, no, better yet, platforms that, when you step on them, it spins a gear which generates power.
So when all of these people are illegally crossing a border, they're all trampling these things, pushing these boxes down, generating electricity, and powering our grid.
lauren southern
Sounds like slavery with extra steps, bud.
tim pool
A lot of extra steps that we do around here.
benjamin stewart
But hear him out, hear him out.
If they're planting like pollinator flowers to bring the bees back.
tim pool
No, no, like what we do is as they cross the border, they get blasted with pollen.
So they're running through this field, pressing buttons with pollens, you know, just pouring off their body.
benjamin stewart
They're the pollinators.
tim pool
And then once they get in, we take them and immediately put them in a pneumatic tube, which sends them back to their country.
lauren southern
I can't wait for the Media Matters article on this idea.
benjamin stewart
Back to the tube.
tim pool
Yes, Tim makes Rick and Morty reference.
They're outraged by it.
Now, my point is rather sarcastic as to what the U.S.
government is actually doing.
They're creating second-class citizens.
They're talking about giving IDs to these people so they can have benefits.
Okay, so they can't vote.
They'll struggle to find work, but they'll let them be here to work.
Yeah, they're creating serfs.
The Democratic Party and their Republican neocon cohorts They're creating a surf class.
Yeah, I'm not for that.
Very true.
I'm not for that.
I think people should enter legally.
They should be treated respectfully.
I don't think non-citizens should vote, but if you're a legal resident with the right to work, then congratulations.
We can hang out, we can crack beers, and then pass your citizenship test, understand what this country means and why it means what it means.
Come and vote, man.
We're excited to have you.
But just letting anybody come in at any time Nah, man.
lauren southern
And when your goal is to reduce racism in society or whatever, which is what many progressives claim their goal is, do you really think that's going to happen when the only- if you're living in a poor, you know, white neighborhood growing up and then a bunch of people come in and the only thing they do is they can't speak the same language as you, they only work lowest class minimum wage jobs, like you're creating this perception in society of us and them.
When you don't have any sort of assimilation that takes place and there's no differences in groups of people that come in.
It's all just one very low working class, you know, non-integrated group of people.
That's like a recipe for disaster they're creating and I don't, I hope they realize, I think they realize what they're doing.
If they do realize, damn, that's dark.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, the assimilation part is interesting because, like, if you, I mean, why do people say New York is so lonely when there's so many people?
It's, I mean, like, I wouldn't go so far as to say that's absolutely true, but when you have people in the same neighborhood that, for one, maybe can't speak the same language, but they don't belong to the same culture, that right there creates separation in the very same neighborhood.
You know, there's something about, like, that that kind of rips the story apart, that kind of holds together, like, why is this going to be a good neighborhood at all?
You got to be a part of the same story, and that doesn't seem like that's a care for any of the immigrants.
It doesn't seem like, you know, come in and, as you were saying, understand what this, you know, nation is, or what bonds us together, regardless of the nation.
Like, what bonds us together?
And that's what my wife was saying about Holland.
It was just this influx of immigration, and there was this rift, not just language-wise, but, like, a lot of the immigrants, as she was saying, and she saw it, just did not care about the culture or the glue that connected the people.
lauren southern
The Swedish Prime Minister has come out just a few months ago and said, we are living in two parallel societies.
And this is a left-wing Swedish Prime Minister, not right-wing anyways.
And she's like, yeah, it's becoming a crisis in our country.
These people are not assimilating.
They're not getting jobs.
They're not speaking the same language.
We've got two countries.
tim pool
They're 30 years too late.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I went down to Sweden and I was hearing all this rhetoric from people on the right saying that the refugees were creating all this crime.
I went there and found, not true actually.
Completely not true.
I mean a little bit, but not really.
Like the narrative of migrant refugees burning cars and stuff, some of those things were happening.
The reality was, the children, Swedish citizens, descendants of Somali migrants from the 90s, were, are the cause of a lot of, are the ones perpetrating
a lot of the crime.
The reason was when the Somali refugees and migrants came to Sweden in the 90s, they said,
just put them all in one place and forget about them.
So these people had no incentive to learn the language and no ability to get jobs because
Swedes are extremely racist.
It is, it is, it is like everything you think about woke, you know, woke-ism, Sweden.
They claim to be for diversity, but they're extremely racist.
So these are the kind of people that will be like, Oh yeah, you know, racism is so wrong.
And then it's like, here's a migrant.
Don't bring that person near me.
So what they did was they put all the Somali migrants in places like, uh, Rinkeby is one place I think it was.
Where a lot of Somali people end up living.
They have kids.
Those kids are raised by people of Somali descent.
They're treated by Swedish, by other people in Sweden, by native Swedes, as immigrants, even though they were born there.
Speak the language, and are citizens.
They go home to visit their families on their parents' side in Somalia, and they're called Swedish.
They're not called, so they have no country.
So what happens?
When the police come into their neighborhoods, they say, You are not a part of our society at all.
You are just people in a van as far as we're concerned.
You can't do anything here.
So we actually had this was like one of the most contentious moments when we had cops tell us.
They start throwing stones at us.
What can we do?
We just leave.
lauren southern
That happened to us in Paris years and years ago.
Do you remember when we were in that no-go zone in Paris and the cops told us like if something happens you're on your own?
tim pool
Which one was it?
Are you sure I was there?
lauren southern
You were there.
I'm pretty sure you were there.
tim pool
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
lauren southern
There were riots going on.
unidentified
Yeah.
lauren southern
Remember we left you in the falafel store to die?
unidentified
I remember those.
tim pool
There was like a big, there were big protests and we couldn't get back to the, to the Airbnb or whatever, something like that.
lauren southern
Yeah.
They started yelling at us that they were going to kill us.
And our translator said that.
And we were like, where's Tim when we were going to find our car and you were in the falafel store.
That's all I remember.
tim pool
Are you sure that was me?
lauren southern
Absolutely sure.
I did a video on it.
tim pool
Really?
ian crossland
Shout out to Falafel.
benjamin stewart
And you were like, forget Tim, we need to go.
lauren southern
For real!
tim pool
I don't know, maybe I need to watch the video to remember.
lauren southern
It was years ago.
Yeah.
tim pool
I do remember in France, like, there were big protests and the trains were blocked off and the cops wouldn't let anyone through and stuff like that.
lauren southern
We went to a few.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Northern parts of France.
I think I remember this.
There was, like, a lot of crime.
There were shootings.
And locals were, like, scared.
I remember when I went to Sweden the first time, this guy was scared to drive in certain neighborhoods.
Because he was just like, these neighborhoods have become, like, their own... You know, they colloquially call them no-go zones.
And then the media was like, there's no such thing as a no-go zone.
Then you look at the definition and it's like, a no-go zone is an area where, you know, there's, like, high crime or police tell you to avoid.
And like, you either can't go there, you're told to avoid going there.
And so in these areas, like you actually had Swedish police issue statement saying like, these are high crime areas, but then deny that they were in any way no-go zone.
And I'm like, my attitude was, I don't care what they're officially, the locals just refer to them that way.
lauren southern
And the cops too, the cops will say it too.
They're like, this is a no-go zone, just so you know.
Oh, but those don't exist, by the way.
Just don't say that publicly.
benjamin stewart
How does it compare to a favela?
tim pool
I think favelas are awesome.
Because I mean at least when I was in Brazil, favelas were just like shanty towns, you know, in Brazil.
Regular people live in regular lives.
They're just, you know, poorer.
And so the crazy thing was how people built houses on top of and through other people's houses.
I haven't seen that, but I've been to some favelas that I would never go back to.
What is a favela?
of the roofs and started building another house. To get to it, they have to go through the house.
Nobody cares. I was like, wow, it's kind of crazy.
benjamin stewart
I haven't seen that, but I've been to some favelas that I would never go back to.
lauren southern
What is a favela? I've never heard this word.
tim pool
It means shantytown.
benjamin stewart
Yeah. Like in Brazil, it's...
lauren southern
Is it supposed to be like a dangerous area? Is that the...
benjamin stewart
Yeah, and it's definitely the lowest economic areas and sometimes they're right next to like a high economic area.
lauren southern
Those are the most dangerous when there's like a contrast.
If you go to super poor areas in the world where there's no contrast, there's no like jealousy or like trying to strive for that wealth or whatever, people are perfectly content.
It's when there's that Like, developing societies are really rough.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I mean, maybe they're dangerous, but maybe because I'm from Chicago, I just didn't feel that way to me.
No, I mean that literally.
benjamin stewart
Could be.
tim pool
Because, you know, they say Chicago's got more gun deaths than Iraq.
Going to bed at night in the city and then hearing gunshots in the distance is just something you grow up with.
Like, someone pulling out a gun at my local high school.
Fight breaks out and some dude pulls out a gun.
It's just like...
I'm in the favelas in Brazil and it's like a dude with like an open fire just grilling chicken and we're like, this is cool.
They're like playing music and people were just chilling and I was like, I don't know.
benjamin stewart
Have you seen City of God?
No.
It's all about the favelas.
Really, really good story, but it's about how like the children gangs, gangs that were literally like kids from maybe four or five years old all the way up to like 15 with guns were like running some of these favelas.
tim pool
You know what you gotta understand, though, is that most people aren't insane.
You know what I mean?
lauren southern
I don't know about that one.
tim pool
No, I mean, there are insane people, but I typically find in my travels having covered, you know, conflict crisis, being in anarchist districts in like Turkey, is that there's a goal, there's an idea, there's like, you can see what they're doing and why they're doing it.
They're not the Joker.
So like, When I'm in the favelas, they're like, here is likely what's gonna happen, like if someone wants to steal from you, they're gonna take your stuff.
I was warned when I was in Venezuela, they were like, when you get express kidnapped in Venezuela, they'll give you a ride anywhere you wanna go.
Like, their goal is to take your money, not to destroy your life, for the most part.
So, one guy told me a story where he was like, he went to an ATM machine, and as soon as he walked up, guy walked up to him and said, you know, take your money out, and then, now get in the car, they're driving in the car and they're like there's a guy
pointing a gun and he's like give me your wallet give me your stuff give me your phone give
me all your cash where can we drop you off and he's like oh you can drop me off here and like
it was like a 20 minute drive and then they like drove him they're like all right man
have a go on he's like all right bye that's nice of them well because like there are bad people
Some of these people will kill you.
But if you look at some of these videos out of Brazil, you see them so often where someone's robbing a store and they get shot and killed.
You may notice, like, in these videos, the dude robbing is not prepared to shoot anyone.
Like, have you seen these videos?
lauren southern
I think I know the idea you're talking about.
tim pool
Tons of them.
lauren southern
Yeah.
tim pool
A guy will walk into a store, and then he'll pull out a gun and start pointing, and then everyone just unloads on him.
The dude will try and run away, because they were threatening these people but not really prepared to actually do it.
But, when you point a gun at someone, they're prepared to defend their own lives.
This is the issue.
These people, they're doing these robberies, they're not actually prepared to hurt an innocent person, but these people with the guns aren't innocent, so those people are.
My point is, in my experience having been to a lot of countries, If you just try and understand the people and their motivations, you're typically fine.
lauren southern
That's a really good point.
I think the people you have to be the most scared of are, it's the classic thing, the people who have nothing left to lose.
Like, you never get in a fight with a crackhead.
You're gonna lose every time.
Or at least they're gonna gouge your eyes out or something before.
Or like, you look at like the situation where those two girls were beheaded in Morocco in the mountains by these migrants who had been sitting there for years trying to get over the, into Soweto, Malia, over the fences and they just, They can't go back, don't have enough money, destroyed their passports, can't go forward.
Nothing left to lose.
Let's chop these girls' heads off after assaulting them.
Like, jeez, those are the scary... But you're right, if people have motivations that you can identify, you might be fine.
tim pool
Right, but that also means, like, when you're seeing someone, when you see ISIS, you're like, I know their motivations.
Run.
lauren southern
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Like, the average person, so my point is like, you're going to a fefella.
The average motivation of a person is, I'm gonna get food for my family.
I'm gonna get nice clothes and try and just live.
So then when they come up to you and they threaten you, it's like, if you just give them your stuff,
they're gonna leave you alone.
Or, you can figure out, you know, are they really prepared to fight with you?
And if typically you see this in the United States too, they did this study.
They got a bunch of convicted criminals who had committed armed robberies, showed them videos of people walking, and asked them who would they choose to target.
Turns out, like over 80% of the time, the people they chose had been robbed before.
There was something about the way people carried themselves that made them look weaker and susceptible.
So that's, you can understand these things.
For the most part, when I would go to like the favelas, you know that almost all people don't want trouble.
Like, A fox, for instance, will not come onto our property when the dog's around, unless the fox is starving, and it has no choice.
And that's the issue.
So most people, like when you come across someone who's like desperate, they might, you know, not want to destroy you, but they'll take your stuff.
The real scary thing is ideologues, because you know they want to destroy you, because those people are crazy.
Depending on where you are, there was that one story about the two people riding their bikes through Tajikistan or whatever, and then ISIS just rammed them and ran them over or whatever.
Some places are dominated by ideologues and zealots, you gotta watch out for that.
I tell you this, I would gladly, with a smile on my face, walk through any favela in Brazil, going to stores, hanging out with people, and not worry about it.
But I would be much, much more worried to go to a protest in New York City where there's leftists.
You know what I mean?
Because I know their motivations.
The motivations of the left is violence, bricks, anger, and rage.
They'll scream in your face.
They'll do what they did to Andy Ngo.
In a favela, it's people that want to sell you a cheeseburger, man.
lauren southern
Cheeseburger might have worms in it, depending on who you're getting it cooked from, but No one there wants to be known on the internet as the guy who threw a brick at Tim Pool's head.
They don't care.
unidentified
Whereas New York, there's probably a few of those.
tim pool
You know what's really messed up, though, is the favela tours they started doing a while ago, where rich tourists will get on buses and drive through poor neighborhoods as a tourist attraction.
That's disgusting.
benjamin stewart
That is super nasty.
ian crossland
Geez, I feel like I'm looking at images of favelas thinking about how cool they look.
benjamin stewart
They do.
ian crossland
I'm kind of like that, that guy, I'm taking a tour right now, but you pull up an image.
lauren southern
He's just doing it on the internet.
ian crossland
It's a spectacular, spectacular imagery to see the way they build these houses in these communities.
tim pool
Well, I mean, they're like, not filled with any.
ian crossland
Yeah, there's probably no structural integrity.
Like there's no building codes and whatever.
tim pool
Getting, getting from building to building is the craziest thing because there's like zigzagging narrow quarters, like one human body length wide.
That's so I went to, uh, uh, uh, what was it?
Um, what was it called?
It's, uh, Cidadão da Polícia, I think.
My Portuguese, it doesn't, it's non-existent.
They had a, they, they had built a mock favela for trainings for, for favela policing and combat.
Because the favelas are random.
You know, like, in the States, it's a grid system we use for most cities.
benjamin stewart
So... There's a logic.
tim pool
There's a logic to it.
But in favelas, it's like, you're gonna turn the corner and some guy's gonna pop out of a window.
That was really fun when I went down there, because we climbed on top of their mock favela.
And I think it was, like, eight feet or ten feet.
And then I asked the cop, and I was like, what do you do when you're up here?
And the guy's down there, and he's like, heh.
And then he jumps down, and he's like, just like that.
And then I jumped down after him, and he was like, whoa!
He was like, don't get hurt, man.
I'm like, I'm good.
And he was actually really surprised I did it, because, you know, he thought, like, we do training here, we can handle it, and I'm like, I've been skating for 20 years.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, you skateboard.
tim pool
I was like, I can jump off a building, I'm good.
lauren southern
Bet they're pretty good at parkour.
benjamin stewart
Oh, yeah?
tim pool
No, for real, man.
That's why the police needed to build this place, build a mock favela for training, because you try to chase down a dude who lives there.
Home field advantage?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, but seriously, it's a maze.
I'm telling you, I went to one house.
To get to the neighbor's house, you had to walk through their kitchen.
Like, walk through their house to get to the next house.
lauren southern
This is, like, perfect Assassin's Creed territory.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Just jump everywhere, all over the... But they... Well, the crazy thing is the power lines.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
tim pool
But they've been doing for a while now something called reclamation or pacification, where they've been sending in these, like, high-powered tactical units, rifles, to just clear out the gangs.
The gangs were the real government of the favelas.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because there was no government.
So what happens is the gangs, they'd call them, started to, like locals would organize and come up with their own systems of governance.
That's what humans do.
When the government tried to say like, hey, these people should be paying taxes and we should have control of this.
They went in and started rounding these people up, shooting them in many circumstances.
It was pretty brutal.
lauren southern
Just another gang.
benjamin stewart
You know, there's a pretty euphoric way to get mugged.
I think it's like Ecuador and Colombia, they use towe or scopolamine where you just like, it's this powder that you can put on a piece of paper and they'll go up to like tourists and they just blow it in their face and it makes you so suggestible that you're like, All right, can you go to the ATM?
Can you pull out all the cash that you have?
And now take me back to your hotel or wherever you stay in.
Where are your valuables?
And you'll just say it.
You'll give it up.
tim pool
People are shocked.
They don't remember.
Yeah, they blow it in your face.
It's the zombie drug.
ian crossland
I think it's the strongest nightshade, scopolamine.
benjamin stewart
Scopolamine, yeah.
lauren southern
That's a really respectable way to mug someone.
benjamin stewart
I'd like to get mugged that way someday.
ian crossland
Chemically.
lauren southern
If I'm going to get mugged, that's going to be the one I pick.
benjamin stewart
No, I'll do it regardless.
ian crossland
They call it the devil's breath, the scopolamine.
benjamin stewart
Some put it in ayahuasca as well.
They call it toey, but they make it an admixture of ayahuasca, and then sometimes people get taken advantage of that way.
tim pool
I kind of feel like it's gotta be, uh, an urban legend, the potency of scopolamine.
You know?
benjamin stewart
Maybe.
tim pool
Like, these stories of people, someone will, like, walk up to them at the ATM, and then do, like, the witch doctor thing, where they go, and blow it in your face, and then you're like, and they zombify you.
That's crazy.
Like, how does that actually happen, you know?
benjamin stewart
I wondered the same thing about- Oh, it treats motion sickness.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, it has uses.
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
What were you gonna say?
Well, I was just reading this thing in this weird magazine called Thought Nachos about PCP and leading it to cannibalism.
PCP leading people into cannibalism and how many stories came up with that.
lauren southern
Oh, when I was in Mexico, something really interesting I was told was that, you know, all the human sacrifices they did in like, what was it, Mayan culture?
benjamin stewart
The Aztecs.
lauren southern
Sorry, the Aztecs, not Mayan.
They were telling me that they'd put the people on like shrooms and tons of different drugs, and they actually wanted to be sacrificed because they thought it was like such a noble, important death.
And when they were on all these drugs, it was actually like this beautiful experience.
It made people's hearts being eaten a lot more lovely for me.
unidentified
What if that's how you ascend?
tim pool
You take DMT until you blast off, sending your spirit into the fourth dimension, then they sacrifice your body, severing the tether and keeping you trapped in the fourth dimension.
lauren southern
You're on another level right now.
benjamin stewart
Man, I feel like I'm on DMT.
ian crossland
So your spirit's already in the other dimension.
You don't have to experience the visceral transaction.
You're already peacefully there.
benjamin stewart
And then they kick you down a flight of steps.
lauren southern
And your friends eat your heart.
That's cute.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
What was it?
tim pool
Apocalypto?
Yeah.
benjamin stewart
I think.
lauren southern
Did you guys watch Vikings?
ian crossland
I haven't seen it.
unidentified
No.
lauren southern
Wasn't that like a thing in Vikings 2 where they talk about how it was like a huge honor to be sacrificed to the gods and people would want to get that position?
I mean, I don't know how much Vikings is, like, referencing historical information, but I just know that's, like, a theme.
ian crossland
Geez, well, the ancient Lithuanian cults and stuff would do that for sure.
What are these pagan religions?
benjamin stewart
They would even take body parts or eat body parts of, you know, the conquered peoples.
lauren southern
I guess that's, yeah, this is still a thing today.
You have, like, ISIS members that are like, bam, gonna blow my soul up.
ian crossland
I just want a Romuva religion.
tim pool
Reading the crime about scopolamine, they don't blow it in your face, they just lace your drink with it.
ian crossland
So is there video of someone getting dosed with scopolamine and then being like, yes, master, or anything like that?
tim pool
No, it just, it's a roofie.
Like, I'm reading about it, it just makes you, like, delirious and loopy.
So you're probably just like, blah, blah, blah.
And then they're like, what's your ATM number?
And you go, blah, blah, blah.
benjamin stewart
I kind of feel like there's got to be a YouTuber that's like, today I'm going to get scopolamine.
tim pool
Well, Vice, one of the very early things was like, they got some scopolamine and they were like, whoa, and they flushed it down the toilet.
They don't touch it.
benjamin stewart
I saw that one, yeah.
ian crossland
There was a Vice anchor that would go out and do a bunch of drugs.
Is it Hannibal?
Is that his name?
unidentified
Hannibal.
benjamin stewart
No, it's Hamilton Morris.
ian crossland
Hamilton.
Sorry, Hamilton.
I keep saying Hannibal.
benjamin stewart
Hannibal's Pharmacopia.
ian crossland
Hannibal is a guy who ate people.
Hamilton's like, I'm going to do this for you.
And then he would take all these different drugs and be like, now you know what it's like for me to be on drugs.
But I mean, that's a lot of great work he did.
tim pool
Wasn't his dad a famous guy?
Who was his dad?
benjamin stewart
I can't remember, but you're right.
Yeah.
I met him and he really does talk that slow.
ian crossland
Oh, cool.
lauren southern
Would you ever eat someone?
Like another person?
Like who are we talking about?
benjamin stewart
Name someone and I'll tell you.
lauren southern
There are those people that got in that plane crash that had to eat their friends to stay alive.
Would you do that?
benjamin stewart
No doubt.
lauren southern
Errol Morris.
Everyone said no, but you're lying to me.
You would eat people.
benjamin stewart
To be perfectly legit, if I had to, to survive, The answer in that situation would probably be yes.
ian crossland
Nope.
unidentified
No.
lauren southern
Never.
ian crossland
You would have to.
lauren southern
No conditions you would eat another person under.
unidentified
Nope.
ian crossland
You just let yourself die?
tim pool
I got kids, man.
I just want to point out, there are people who starve for political purposes intentionally.
Like, bro, I'm pretty sure it's a choice if you want to eat another person.
ian crossland
But if there's no politics involved, if it's just... Well, okay, what about, are you talking about living people or dead people that are already frozen again?
tim pool
My point is, there are people right now who are like, I feel so strongly about the birds.
unidentified
I'm not going to eat another chicken until the birds are freed.
tim pool
And then they choose to starve themselves.
lauren southern
So my point is... How many people actually die of that starvation, though?
tim pool
Like, people who go on hunger strikes?
lauren southern
Yeah, that actually, like, go the whole way instead of doing it for, like, three days and then, damn, gonna go get myself some, like, expensive vegan food.
tim pool
Maybe it's easy to say when I am well-fed, but I do not believe there's a circumstance where I would eat a person.
It's not survival.
You get the shakes.
You get prion diseases.
ian crossland
Well, don't eat the brain.
tim pool
No, but you can't even guarantee it.
You eat the people.
You get the shakes.
lauren southern
What do you mean the shakes?
Is that a thing?
tim pool
Prion disease.
lauren southern
From eating another person?
tim pool
What is it called?
Encephalopathy or something?
unidentified
Yes.
lauren southern
I'm not advocating eating other people here.
I'm just, you know, expanding the conversation today.
tim pool
The New York Times had that article.
They were like, the time for cannibalism, maybe now.
lauren southern
Soylent Green, eh?
tim pool
Yeah, well, they were writing about fiction.
How, like, it's become popular, cannibalism and fiction.
My response is, like, Reza Aslan ate people.
Like, he ate a person.
lauren southern
He got in real big trouble for that, and they broadcast it, what was it, CNN?
tim pool
Yeah, he ate people.
He ate part of a person.
ian crossland
A piece of a brain?
tim pool
I meant people in, like, the general noun, like saying cow.
You know, he ate human.
ian crossland
A piece of a brain is an ecosystem.
lauren southern
So he wouldn't get the shakes.
tim pool
When you talk about someone getting the shakes, that's like... I think Reza Aslan may have a mental side effect from eating brain.
I think the dude went off.
He was this well-respected religious scholar and then at some point he just went nuts and he advocated for violence with the Covington kids and stuff.
He's posted really insane stuff about punching.
He was the one who said, punch the kid's face.
Something like that.
The kid's face is punchable.
I kind of feel like either Eating the brain did something to him, which I would not be surprised, or the social ramifications of being a cannibal destroyed him mentally.
ian crossland
I get that.
That's what I get out of it.
tim pool
And I will always stress this because I know somebody who knew him and I said, Reza Aslan's a cannibal.
And they were like, no, he's not.
And I was like, he's a cannibal.
He ate human being.
And they were like, he ate human like one time.
And I'm like, if a dude Abuses a kid, you know what I mean?
Like, are you gonna say he's not a pedo?
And they're like, well, no.
I'm like, he ate a part of a person.
He's a cannibal.
lauren southern
Objectively a cannibal.
tim pool
You earned that title, dude.
ian crossland
Great conversation.
So if someone killed somebody 35 years ago, you're a murderer.
Are they still a killer?
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
Or are they no longer a killer now that they don't kill people anymore?
tim pool
No, you're a killer.
ian crossland
I don't think it's like once you did something, you're always that thing.
benjamin stewart
So, I sometimes eat the calluses off my fingers.
I'm a guitar player.
ian crossland
All right.
lauren southern
You're a cannibal.
benjamin stewart
Am I a cannibal?
Tell me about it.
tim pool
No, you're not a cannibal, dude.
You're constantly swallowing mucus from your sinus or whatever.
Or, you know, you bite your tongue and then some cells... Got it.
unidentified
Ooh, wait.
lauren southern
Okay, so wait.
This actually brings up an interesting conversation.
Because I was thinking, okay, the person has to be dead.
And then I was like, wait, no, they don't actually have to be dead.
Because you could, like, unconsensually I could bite his arm right now and I think I'd be a cannibal, right?
But what if he consented to me eating his arm?
tim pool
You're still a cannibal!
lauren southern
Because there's that guy in Germany who was the murderer, but he got his guy that he ate, he had him consent to it.
And then he ate him and he went to jail and they did a whole documentary on him, but the guy consented to being eaten.
ian crossland
Was he under duress when he consented?
lauren southern
I don't know.
He claims that they were lovers and that the guy loved him so much he wanted to be a part of him.
That was his claim when he did the interview.
ian crossland
It didn't fly in a quarter of an hour.
benjamin stewart
I love where this conversation went.
lauren southern
What is the guy's name?
benjamin stewart
Lydia's looking at that Grand Patron.
lauren southern
Is there a difference between like consensual cannibalism and cannibalism?
Are you a worse person?
ian crossland
In 50 years, there might be different words for those two things.
tim pool
You know, I firmly believe dogs know if you have ever eaten dog.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Cuz I was reading something about it, how dogs, like I was reading about countries where they eat dog, and the behavior that dogs have towards people, and I'm like, if dogs can smell cancer, if dogs can smell a seizure before it happens, I'm pretty sure a dog can smell that you've eaten dog.
ian crossland
At least recently.
tim pool
Or maybe within the past few years or something.
ian crossland
But like chickens don't have the sense of smell, is that why?
And cows, can they not smell as well as dogs?
tim pool
Dogs have crazy smell, dude.
lauren southern
I think animals are closer to the spirit realm, especially dogs, and they can absolutely sense things on a level that we can't.
And things about our soul, that's why dogs will like hate certain people and love certain people.
ian crossland
Cats too, they can anticipate your movements.
lauren southern
They see things we don't see.
tim pool
I read that if you eat dog, dogs will like not trust you.
ian crossland
You said wild horses too?
benjamin stewart
Up in Northern California, my friend's got like a thousand acres and there's wild horses all around it and he's protecting them.
And he said everybody he brings there, if you eat meat, it doesn't even have to be horse meat, if you eat meat at all, the horses won't come near you.
lauren southern
Interesting.
tim pool
Well, I mean, you can smell it.
They say, like, when the special forces or whatever were training to go in, or I don't know which division, you have to eat local foods because you don't realize how much you smell of the food that you eat.
benjamin stewart
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
So the horses are probably like, dude, you eat meat I can tell.
benjamin stewart
You just went to McDonald's, right?
unidentified
And then the vegans walk up and the horse is like, ah, noble vegan, I am safe around you.
ian crossland
As I am a vegan.
lauren southern
Um, okay.
I just, just for reference for the chat, because I'm sure there's so many people interested.
The guy's name was Armin Meiwes, who is the cannibal in Germany, whose victim consented.
tim pool
How did they know he consented though?
lauren southern
Um, there was a whole documentary on it.
Okay.
tim pool
There was like a contract.
unidentified
Yeah.
lauren southern
I think it was like, they had like letters back and forth and stuff.
And they, yeah, they were.
ian crossland
Was he's like, I want to be in you.
Are you sure you just didn't misread that statement?
lauren southern
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
Myos appeared in court charged with killing and then frying and eating another man.
In one of the most extraordinary trials, the self-confessed cannibal admitted that he had met 43-year-old Berlin engineer Bernard Brandes after advertising on the internet and had chopped him up and eaten him.
So I think he put an advertisement on the internet that he wanted to eat someone and the guy responded?
benjamin stewart
What platform?
unidentified
Craigslist?
tim pool
This is what the internet does to people.
Like, normally a guy who wants to be eaten would never find someone who would want to eat him, but now the internet... Now there's someone for everyone.
benjamin stewart
Now you can swipe until you find the right one.
tim pool
There's gonna be an app called Eater.
And it's like, I would like to be eaten, or I would like to eat, and you're like, no, I don't want to eat him.
Ooh, I'd eat her.
benjamin stewart
Oh man, eaters only.
lauren southern
So he was nice about it.
Brandon swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and a half a bottle of schnapps before he started.
Oh, I don't think I can read this.
He started cutting off certain parts of him first and started to fry and eat it.
And then after he was bleeding heavily, he took a bath.
unidentified
He read him a Star Trek novel.
lauren southern
And then in the early hours of the morning, he finished off his victim, stabbing him in the neck and then kissing him.
ian crossland
Yeah, the way they call it victim.
I mean, if they started predisposed, like they already believe it was not consensual.
lauren southern
Chopped him up, put several bits of him in the freezer next to a takeaway pizza, then buried him in the garden.
unidentified
I love that detail right there.
lauren southern
He cut him up, ate him while he was still alive, and then read him a Star Trek novel.
tim pool
But here's the problem.
I mean, I'm serious about the internet stuff.
lauren southern
No.
tim pool
Normally somebody who thought they were a giraffe would just sit there and they're quiet being like, I think I'm a giraffe.
And then they would never act upon it.
But now with the internet, they find a bunch of other people who are like, yo, I think I'm a giraffe too.
And they're like, let's have a giraffe convention.
Then they all get together walking around going, and eating leaves.
And it's, it's like, it's creating communities that normally wouldn't exist, you know?
ian crossland
I think humans used to be way more racist and willing to slaughter that which they hated, and we've become very accepting, for better and for worse, because we've become much more tolerant, which obviously is fantastic for a communicative society, but at the same time, How would those people survive in nature if they just want to be giraffes all day?
Who's going to do the human work?
benjamin stewart
I wonder, who would they be in a tribe?
You go back thousands of years, who would they be in a tribe?
unidentified
Right?
benjamin stewart
The one who thinks they're a giraffe?
Or are they the shaman?
ian crossland
Do they even think that stuff back in the day?
Do you think it's just like a lazy, like, there's nothing, I'm bored with, there's no, so let's find out, let's fantasize?
lauren southern
It's like the kids who are like, when we achieve full communism, I'm going to work at the poetry factory.
tim pool
You saw that meme where they're like, what are you going to do when communism is achieved?
And it's like, I'm going to teach people how to grow things on my farm.
And then someone went, your farm?
Yeah, they don't they don't get it.
ian crossland
You mentioned earlier that the people we seem to have had a story, like a group story that we're out of touch with now.
But what do you think that story is?
benjamin stewart
I mean, like, I love Charles Eisenstein's way of looking at this, and he says, like, you know, there's this old story that it's not like, you know, some emperor or some group writes it per se.
It kind of is an amalgamation of a group, an entire group, but over time it kind of
turns into an unwritten credo.
And part of it today, I would say, is that we're separate from nature, that you can do
anything you want to the environment and it doesn't come back on you, that money can be
profane and completely separate.
There's nothing sacred about, you know, any of these things.
So like, in a sense, it's kind of this isolation.
I'm this individual.
And the way Charles Eisenstein is talking about it is like, this is precisely what we need to get back to.
More of the real story that unites us being this thing where there's nothing I can do to the outside world that doesn't eventually have its consequence back at me or in future generations.
So I think those are the kinds of stories.
It's not like, you know, something that you can write down in a preamble to a constitution or something like that.
I think it's more of like the amalgamation of what people end up believing under a certain kind of rule, under a certain kind of economy.
ian crossland
We talked about the eight types of Greek love a couple nights ago.
You brought it up.
Agape, you actually mentioned, is the love of the community.
And I think people have fallen, maybe in the United States, out of touch with it because of this isolationist ease of like air-conditioned, you know, internal Well, you get to be separate.
benjamin stewart
You get to look at everything through a screen now, whereas back in the day, you would gauge your threat level by looking into nature, and now everyone is getting the same amygdala-teasing effect by just staring at a screen, but you're supposedly safe inside this little bubble, but you're cut off from your actual community.
tim pool
We've got to figure something out, us humans, because, you know, we developed and evolved based on the natural ecosystem.
Like, the simplest thing is sugars are few and far between in nature, so when we find it, we're like, this is amazing!
Because your body uses it really quickly, and then you don't have it for a long time.
Then we refined it, now we have endless supplies of sugar pumped into our bodies, poisoning us.
These things are one of the biggest threats to everything that is to be human.
We want to better our lives.
We want to make a better future for our children.
We want to explore, develop, become smarter, and live, and be happy and healthy.
But now, it's like we've found a way to electrocute our nerve, to stimulate it, and we just got the thing cranked up to 11, and we're sitting there with movies, video games, porn, Mountain Dew, Taco Bell, chocolate ice cream, Ben & Jerry's, whatever you want to call it, and it's just massive overstimulation.
And I think it desensitizes people.
Because I'll tell you this, we've got the berry season's almost over, But I talk about wine berries all the time.
It is like, they're so delicious.
When, I don't eat sugar for the most part.
So when you get a fresh berry, you're like, whoa, it's so good.
And then it's like, I tried drinking a sweet tea and it was like drinking syrup.
I couldn't drink it.
It was disgusting.
I think people are completely desensitized to like the amount of garbage they're eating.
They're not getting the same, like this is why people are so depressed too.
Once you get everything that can maximize stimulation, there's nothing left.
So if your whole life is pure stimulation, you're at the top.
You can't go anywhere.
Eventually it just becomes baseline and you're like, life is not good.
lauren southern
I had breathing issues.
I don't know if it was like a panic attack or something, but I had to go to the hospital once for it because I was like having so much trouble getting air.
And I remember the doctor talking.
I felt like such a loser because he was like, there's nothing actually wrong with you.
Just how you're breathing right now is your lungs are full and you're only going You can't get anything in so you're never feeling like you're getting a full breath and that sounds like exactly what you're describing.
Like if you start at the bottom, you're always getting these full breaths every single day.
And yeah, you just don't want to constantly be hitting that peak.
ian crossland
How do you work out of that?
tim pool
It was like I don't know if I feel like such a loser because I thought there was something like severely wrong with me But yeah, I was like an anxiety thing or something and I just had to chill for a bit I've told this story before a friend of mine who became a millionaire at the age of 16 I think he was like 16 said that in his experience every person he's ever met who became wealthy had an existential crisis for most of these people They weren't intending to become rich.
They developed something, instantly became rich, and then had accomplished their goal, and did not have to work anymore.
And so that left them sitting there depressed and aimless.
Because like, if their goal was, I'm gonna, you know, work on this computer program, and they just kept improving it over time, They'd have to keep working and paying their bills and then finding ways to make money, but for the small amount of people who solved the computer problem instantly, made 10-15 million dollars, now they don't gotta work, they're like, what is my life now?
I've already accomplished the thing that I'm good at, I have money, I don't have to work anymore, what do I spend it on?
Everyone else is too busy working, they can't, I'm just, you're outside of the system at that point.
benjamin stewart
There's an interesting thing, there's like two spiritual elements to this that I want to bring up is that one, I bet you those people would be happier if they like woke up to this wealth and then they realized everybody else is free as well.
But when you wake up and all of a sudden you're outside of this rat race where you have to like, you know, work your ass off in this dog-eat-dog world, So you wake up and you're outside of that, you don't have to work anymore, but every one of your friends, you can't solve all their problems for them, so you're watching them stuck in this machine that you were just in, and it might feel lonely outside of that.
And that's actually what they call the Bodhisattva in Buddhism and Hinduism.
Are people who reach nirvana, which is like enlightenment, pure bliss, but they're like, like, I realize I don't exist for me.
So they enter themselves back into the world of suffering so they can help other people.
And what you were saying, like, breath is a part of every single spiritual tradition.
And when you're at the top of your breath all the time, it leads to anxiety.
You know, but what does this look like?
It's like, you know, the bottom of your breath all the time.
People who they're not inhaling and getting that full inhale is more like depression.
lauren southern
Everything's lived in the tension.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Conflict is a huge part of life that makes life enjoyable.
And it's unfortunate that sometimes that conflict is war.
But you know, going back to like the first thing we're talking about, the decline of an empire, is that when the narrative of God and country wasn't working anymore, your country's falling apart.
People, a country succeeded because people were like, we are a strong country.
We believe in each other and that bond.
You lose that, there's, you know, people just conflict with each other, everything falls apart.
But, uh, let's go to Super Chats!
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, don't forget, check out TimCast.com, we've got a couple shows up now, uh, Tales from the Inverted World, we're about to, so we have Tales from the Inverted World, Which is the, you know, serialized long-form show, and we're going to be launching soon the Inverted World Podcast, which is Shane Cashman, the author, taking your calls.
So we want, we're going to be setting this up soon.
We'll have you submit your ghost stories, your spooky stories, your paranormal, your Bigfoot sightings, and then Shane will ask you guys about them.
So we'll schedule calls with regular people, have them phone in.
We'll do these episodes.
We'll try and do them as often as Shane is able to do them.
It might be once a week.
It's gonna be up to him, because he's also gonna be investigating this other long-form stuff for Tales from the Inverted World.
But I'm really excited for that show, because I just personally love those shows.
Like, I don't know if you guys have ever gone on a road trip and just put on the Campfire Ghost Stories shows.
Those are my favorite.
ian crossland
Yeah, are you... What was that old... Afraid of the... Not Afraid of the... Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I was raised on that book.
And the audio, like the tape that came with it.
tim pool
I love being on a road trip.
It's like 10 p.m., it's dark, and playing on the podcast is like a dude calling in being like, so there I was, I'm in my basement, when all of a sudden the water faucet turns on by itself.
And I'm like, whoa.
ian crossland
You can hear he believes it too.
lauren southern
I don't know what's wrong with you people.
I can't do anything horror.
My nightmares are enough for me.
Thanks.
ian crossland
I'm kind of with you.
lauren southern
I'm good on that.
ian crossland
Life is terrifying.
What about paranormal?
lauren southern
No, like I have such bad, I went, I have such bad nightmares.
Like I can't do any of that.
I get sleep paralysis.
I'm like, no, no, no.
That's just going to give my mind more creativity to torment me with.
My brother.
tim pool
So we went to an antique store and we got a phone from the 1930s.
Like one of those old, like you pull the cone off the thing and put it to your operator.
And, uh, my brother turned it in- he actually built a mechanism to make it work with, like, actual Bluetooth and play sounds and everything, so we're gonna use that as, like, a main prop.
And then we have a ha- we actually have a haunted house that we're gonna be using for the set, so I'm super excited.
But let's read- let's read all your superchats!
All right, let's see.
Kefka says, so I see people want to bring back the ghost girl.
I also see it's either, uh, it's either Ian is always on or it'll be another summer of love.
I for one agree.
I don't understand what that means.
Um, Mary Morgan is the host of Pop Culture Crisis and she does frequent this show.
Uh, so you'll see her periodically.
All right, let's see.
S says, Cheez-It, if Lauren is sucking down Pappy in a paper cup, I'm bringing Mezcal in a mason jar.
lauren southern
That's right.
tim pool
Oh, so did you put the honey in the Grand Patron?
unidentified
How was it?
Is it good?
lauren southern
It's really strong, but yeah, it's alright.
I can make you one right now.
benjamin stewart
Make me one, please.
tim pool
I'm gonna go make you one.
unidentified
I do think like... Would you guys like... Not me.
ian crossland
I might, yeah.
lauren southern
Tiny, tiny... Paper cups, boys?
ian crossland
Oh, every day.
I'll return.
benjamin stewart
It's for the environment.
tim pool
Alright, let's grab some more.
Oh no, I can't read some of these.
Araftis of Stat says, how do I audition for the part of Tim in the Castcastle series?
benjamin stewart
You don't?
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
So we are going to have in the Castcastle show real vlog elements of it.
Like Lauren was riding around on an electric motorbike or something like that.
lauren southern
I was.
We should have, I still think we should have vlogged whatever this thing, the NAD thing.
tim pool
Oh, the NAD?
Yeah.
Um, we never really did that, I guess, for like security reasons.
We never film it.
lauren southern
Oh, fair enough.
Wait, I'm curious, who would you have play you?
Like what actor would you have play you in a movie about you?
tim pool
I don't know.
lauren southern
You have no idea.
unidentified
The Rock.
tim pool
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
I imagine like there's, you know, they're going to make, they're going to make a movie.
You know how they did the Fox News bombshell movie?
lauren southern
Yeah.
tim pool
They're going to make an indie media one, mostly about the Daily Wire, but I'll be like peripherally in it for some reason.
And then they'll get like some really awful person to play me.
Some like Weasley guy who's like, I'm Tim Pope.
Hey, come on.
unidentified
Yeah.
benjamin stewart
What about that guy, Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad?
Whatever that actor's name is.
tim pool
I don't know.
benjamin stewart
He's in Westworld now.
tim pool
I don't know, maybe they have to get Ben Shapiro to play me because all we would have to do is be a little bit more liberal, but we both talk really fast so I think he'd be able to pull it off.
lauren southern
People liked fast talkers, hey, in media.
Everyone's just got a bit of ADHD.
I can't even watch my videos not on two times speed anymore.
I have to watch everything on two times speed.
Internet's making me mentally ill.
benjamin stewart
Do you edit your own videos?
lauren southern
Most of them, yeah.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, do you edit on double time?
lauren southern
If I could, I would.
benjamin stewart
That's what I do for my shows.
Really?
And I notice when I watch them at regular speed, I'm like, whoa, this sounds like I'm drunk.
lauren southern
Yeah, totally.
All right.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
DocToxic says, finally joined TimCast.com and watched the after show.
Hearing Ian drop the F-bomb for the first time made it so worth it.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
HuronXBearcat says, everyone gives Ian too much crap.
I don't necessarily agree with him a lot of the time, but Ian brings to light more dialogue than the entire comment section.
Keep it up, Ian, you silly goose.
ian crossland
Thanks, dawg.
tim pool
The things we don't like.
Semantic arguments.
The things we do like.
Ian has a perspective that is very much outside of the typical culture war.
And often, you know, presents things that no one on the left or right is actually addressing in a certain issue.
ian crossland
I like talking about semantics.
If we agree beforehand, let's discuss a word, what it means, what it used to mean, what it could mean, that kind of stuff.
But using it in the middle of a discussion is kind of underhanded.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, when it feels circular.
Thank you.
lauren southern
It's very strong, just look out.
tim pool
Hank Hokage Hill says, why don't you use Rumble?
You promote it a lot.
It would get a lot of people to sign up and overall get more people off YouTube.
Love you guys.
I'm working on it.
We use Rumble for... We put everything on Rumble that we put everywhere else.
I don't think the full VOD version of this goes on Rumble, though, unless we have to move it over.
And the issue is... I've explained it a bit.
It's simple.
Before I mention it, I'll also read StoryManJack who says, Tim is a coward. Calls for us to quit our jobs in protest,
but jumps like an apoplectic toad when YouTube grunts. Hypocrisy much?
No. No. Um.
My point is, as it's always been, for one, I respect your opinion if you think that's the case.
I will stand by saying, YouTube is the biggest platform.
I do not think it makes sense for large and prominent personalities to retreat from the central battlefield of ideas for some principled reason.
I agree with principled reasons if it's like, you work for a company and they're doing something really bad.
And you're like, I don't want to do that thing for you.
On YouTube, we're doing the opposite of bad thing.
We are calling out bad thing, we're calling out the problems, and we're using the most powerful and prominent platform to, one, address those issues, and then also create a pathway to alternates.
We shout out The Daily Wire frequently, because I think what they're doing is equally as important, creating alternate paths.
We shout out Parallel Economy, we use them.
We use Rumble infrastructure.
My point is, When I say don't cancel your Disney or Netflix, if you really want to, go ahead, I don't expect people to abandon the establishment machine where it provides for them in certain ways.
We have to create a machine that does better.
So, simply put, When Jordan Peterson got suspended on Twitter, I said, I think he should delete the tweet and then go after Twitter on their own platform and use it to the best of his abilities.
I don't think you accomplish much by, you know, it would be like being in a battlefield, taking some casualties and then being like, all right, that's it.
We've got everybody retreat.
There's no point in being here.
Or do you pull a Mel Gibson, grab the flag and go, no, no, no, keep going, keep going, keep going.
It's not perfect.
There's no simple solutions.
If you can work at a company that's doing bad things, but you are completely able to push back and reverse that, then you shouldn't quit.
You're having a positive impact.
So this is what I think is important.
Maximizing central battlefield to the best of our abilities, so that YouTube continually promotes these conversations to regular people, and then we can create paths to a whole bunch of personalities.
To put it even more simply, You may not like that we use YouTube, but how else do we get the likes of Alex Jones and Steve Bannon in front of regular people when they've been banned?
We still have an ability for regular people to see things.
ian crossland
Who was it that made that super chat?
What was his name?
tim pool
Or her name?
Story Man Jack.
ian crossland
Shout out Story Man Apopleptic Toad.
Is that the word?
The metaphor?
I like it.
tim pool
That's very good, that's very good.
But I will also say, I will read your comments if you think I'm wrong, because Like, I think that's what actually makes the show good.
So feel free to throw shade my way, and I'll give you my thoughts on it.
And, uh... Far from perfect.
ian crossland
Battlefield Retreat's a cool conversation, because sometimes you do want to retreat from a battle, even one maybe that you're winning, because you can pull the enemy into an ambush.
Sometimes, when you start to take fire, you cannot retreat.
You have to keep pushing, otherwise your whole unit's gonna get wiped out.
tim pool
I legit tried.
I hit up my ad agency and said, we want a big Times Square billboard saying Twitter protects pedophiles and they said no.
They said it can't in any way be related to that concept.
And I was like, okay, well, we'll figure something else out.
I would have, cause I would have loved to do that.
That's the kind of thing that, that I want, I want to, I want to buck the system using, I want, I want to be in their faces.
I want people in Times Square to see us next to Coca-Cola.
That's the point.
We are telling them you are not the elites anymore.
We are displacing them, and we are doing what we can to make that a reality.
benjamin stewart
I just want to say one thing about that.
That's like, you know, using the system to buck the system rather than trying to recreate an alternative system to buck that system.
It's a little bit of both.
And well, yeah, but I mean, like still using the tool there.
It's like taking the thing apart from the inside, which is how any nation or anything else kind of collapses.
It's usually not just outer forces.
You use the mechanism itself.
tim pool
I just think, um, it is, it is a complicated culture war.
It is.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's like if you armed a slave rebellion with weapons from the very empire it's rebelling against, you know, they still, they're empirical weapons, but the slaves will use them to overthrow the empire.
tim pool
I just think, you know, I, I have to wonder, you know, it's like, there's a lot of people who want us all to work for free.
And I'm like, it's a weird concept to have people who identify as like capitalists to be like, but you should give me free stuff.
You know what I mean?
Like, we do, most of the stuff we make is free.
ian crossland
Yeah, but it requires energy and time.
That's not free.
So it's a free product for the person.
tim pool
Most, like, anybody can watch this show completely for free.
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
As long as they have an internet connection, yeah.
tim pool
Well, yeah, I mean, like, we are not charging people to watch this live show.
lauren southern
This is, yeah, this is a problem I've run into.
I put every single one of my documentaries I've done out for free, but then every time I want to make a new documentary, it's always, I have to It takes forever to try to fund again.
It's a whole challenge, and I don't know if I can make another one next time.
So, yeah, being able to fund your work makes it continually possible, but you have to charge something.
tim pool
There's something we pointed out in the membership yesterday that I think is important for people to understand as well.
Right now, we have about 32,000 concurrent viewers, and we are streaming at 6,200 kilobits per second.
Multiply that by 32,000, and that's how much kilobits is going down.
That bandwidth cost is insane.
YouTube's giving that to us for free.
This is what people need to understand.
We would not be able to do this show without free service.
Rumble does offer free service, but my thing is, can we build up Rumble's audience by telling people on YouTube about Rumble, or do we just stop informing the largest platform?
There's no simple answer.
Not everyone's gonna be happy, I guess.
Let's read some more.
All right, Razio says, I swore myself never to do another Super Chat to save money, but this is important.
Tim, Lydia, I implore you to get Michael Yan on the show.
He was on JBP's podcast.
He went into detail of what's in store this fall.
A caveat, one billion deaths by 2025.
lauren southern
Uh-oh.
ian crossland
Stuart just inhaled a little bit of, uh... It's a bit strong.
unidentified
It's a little strong.
ian crossland
It's good for your brachial tract.
tim pool
He inhaled the fancy drink Lauren made.
unidentified
It's gonna slowly work it out of your vocal cords now.
ian crossland
I feel better.
Aspiration.
lauren southern
I felt like doing that the first sip I took, too.
ian crossland
It's funny that they call it aspiration when you breathe in liquids, but they also call being in spot... No, aspiration is like a thing you can have.
lauren southern
Aspirational, yeah.
unidentified
Aspergers.
tim pool
Triton says, I am now a believer in Tim's fifth generational warfare hypothesis.
It's obvious that the CCP is attempting to win the hearts and minds of 75 million Americans.
Long live Chicken Ian.
You guys saw the Wikipedia change in the definition of recession?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
I didn't see what they changed.
tim pool
It wasn't that Wikipedia did it, it's that there was an edit battle between people over what recession was, and then some higher ranking Wikipedia person locked it so you couldn't change it anymore.
That is the fifth generational warfare.
That there's a there's a battle over reality.
And they're changing definitions.
Literally Miriam Webster changed the definition of female to be the opposite of male.
Like it's not even a definition.
ian crossland
Or true.
lauren southern
Yeah, if there's no definition of male, then what is the opposite of male mean?
unidentified
Yeah, what?
benjamin stewart
We need to tell Matt Walsh to make What Is A Man.
ian crossland
I think that- Is it not- Okay, I think it's kind of obvious that there is a recession happening right now, and it doesn't- You don't have to wait to be told?
Like, just live your life accordingly?
benjamin stewart
Is that- But Pelosi doesn't agree.
ian crossland
Oh, she doesn't?
benjamin stewart
No.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You know what, man?
You know what man?
Like I think if anybody spent one day trying to run this company they would be like you're
You should quit.
This is nuts.
Why would you do this?
Like, I don't think people understand what it takes to make all of this possible.
And so, you know, look, I'll read your comments and I'll read your criticisms.
I respect that.
But I think the challenge is people don't see what it's like to, you know, wake up at 7am and work until midnight, Monday through Friday.
And then on weekends, that's when I get to go to the bank and file paperwork and drop off checks.
So it's just like...
It's, it's, it's, it's... Sometimes, you know, what's the point?
Is the question, right?
If you're gonna get this many people who are like, you should be giving us the content for free, you shouldn't expect us to pay for it, you're bending the knee, we don't respect your strategies, and I'm just like, then why am I fighting for you?
ian crossland
Yeah, I mean, anytime you get criticisms like, hey, this person that I'm not lifting a finger to be involved with is doing something I don't like, like, okay, do it then, dude.
tim pool
But the reality is- Complainer.
ian crossland
Like, do it yourself.
tim pool
Obviously, there are far fewer haters than there are people who support the work we're doing.
benjamin stewart
For sure.
And I wonder what a high energy guest would be.
We're not doing enough jumping jacks.
ian crossland
They're not talking about you on my last night.
I could tell you thought they're talking about you.
lauren southern
And we took it personally.
benjamin stewart
I was about to start doing calisthenics.
unidentified
Do you want to fight?
ian crossland
Arm wrestling?
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
L says, Lauren, I watched The Whole Truth and I was honestly blown away.
My question to you is, if you can stay out of the hot seat, could there be more about the stars of the right that you interacted with that you'll put out?
lauren southern
The Whole Truth wasn't about, like, exposing people's, like, personal problems, or this person did that drug, or this person slept with that hooker.
It was literally just about the situations I encountered that kind of led me to be black-pilled about politics, and then realizing it wasn't really about this whole movement, realizing You know, people are flawed and you can't put your faith in man.
You can't put it in these other people.
You have to put it in the ideas.
You have to put it in God, something bigger than yourself.
So it's just kind of my political journey.
It wasn't about exposing the stars of the right.
That just was something that were experiences I had.
So I don't want it to be about who were the good guys and the bad guys.
Everyone loves a bit of juicy gossip, of course, but that wasn't the point of the video.
But I'm glad you liked it.
I appreciate that.
Also, one thing I've always made a point of is Tim, I didn't talk about you in The Whole Truth at all, because you were just a damn hard worker the whole time.
Like you were just saying, you worked freaking harder than anyone I knew during that 2016 to now period.
You're one of the few people- okay, simping too hard, but yeah, I think you earned it all.
I think you did.
tim pool
I don't- I don't know, I mean like whenever there was like a big story, we like- I'm going to cover the same story you were going to cover.
There was a similar beat.
But I don't think when it came to working, I think the reason you had stuff to talk about with other people is that you worked with them.
lauren southern
We never really... Yeah, we were in the same area.
I was talking about this.
When your whole job is traveling the world and you're like 20, it's hard to make a community.
So you just kind of have these people that you brush shoulders with that are in the same area all the time.
tim pool
It's like, oh, there was a riot.
I'm going to go there and then you're there.
lauren southern
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I definitely was more working with this kind of dissident right that existed.
And you kind of escaped a lot of that drama because you were doing your own thing.
You truly were independent of these movements at that time.
tim pool
We got the quartering.
He says, thanks for faking the issue last night so I could grift like a maniac.
And thanks to your viewers who tuned in.
Everything is back to normal now.
Sips delicious nondescript drink.
Jeremy!
We have an event coming up that we're planning in Austin and we should definitely get a bunch of Coffee Brand Coffee to serve at the event.
That would be really great.
ian crossland
Please send me some to the house or something because I want to drink it.
tim pool
We should figure something out so it's like all of the attendees.
So I'm not going to say too much because I don't want to generate a hot seat for anybody.
But there's someone I know who's got like a burger shop in Austin.
We're going to have them provide the burgers if possible.
And then we're planning a live IRL event.
When is it?
Wait, did you say there's a barbecue?
because we're still planning. But the idea is we would do the
show on stage live for an extended period. The speakers would be rotating guests who would come in for about like
an hour and then leave and then we would do like a really long
show for like five hours.
ian crossland
So we'll have coffee on stage.
lauren southern
Barbecue?
tim pool
And then no, the idea is to bring in like give everyone burgers.
lauren southern
Okay.
tim pool
Because it's not gonna be a long event.
lauren southern
If there's burgers.
Yeah.
tim pool
And then we could have coffee brand coffee there.
ian crossland
Are there coffee brand coffee Keurig pods yet?
Make them.
tim pool
You know what we should do?
We should get Kregler coffee and coffee brand coffee.
And then, you know, people can choose which one they prefer.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh, we'll set up a few Keurigs on the stage.
Maybe get a coffee pot in case you want to brew some fresh beans.
unidentified
A French press.
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what I love in Brazil?
They have these things, the pão de queijo.
You ever have those?
benjamin stewart
Yeah.
tim pool
That's so good.
benjamin stewart
Yeah, cheesy bread.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like bread with cheese in it.
They bake it.
So it's like the bread has cheese in it.
Like, it's not like the bread you open and you can see cheese.
No, like the cheese is part of the flour.
lauren southern
That's nice.
benjamin stewart
My wife tried to redo it with phyllo dough.
It's a weird recipe too, the way they make it.
ian crossland
It's phyllo dough.
benjamin stewart
Phyllo dough is kind of like croissants.
It comes apart in flakes.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
tim pool
I'm loving all of the super chats about bucko.
He was like sitting on my lap.
ian crossland
He's still out there.
tim pool
We gave him the boot.
ian crossland
He's right outside the door waiting.
tim pool
Are you sure?
ian crossland
Yeah, he was when I went out there.
tim pool
Curled up.
He wanted to come in here.
I mean, he wants to be on the show now.
I think he really liked it.
He came in here during the member-only episode once and everybody loved him so much.
He's probably like, ooh, this is nice.
ian crossland
We've been bonding.
tim pool
He's like, I don't know what's going on here, but everyone keeps loving me.
David Setliff says, treats for the Bucko cast IRL.
ian crossland
Bucko, you're a superstar.
tim pool
That's right.
That's right.
All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
A lot of people pointing out states can't deport people.
We have Lgalucard, or L-G-A-L-U-C-A-R-D, says states can't deport people, only feds can.
Convincing Reality says, Tim, immigration is a federal issue.
States cannot deport people out of the country.
This is 100% the right move.
ian crossland
But can the feds give the states the authority?
tim pool
I agree.
ian crossland
Like deputize them?
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
But if they can't, then I stand corrected and it is the right move to send them to DC and New York.
Like, let them deal with the issue.
The only problem is they're not going to deport anybody.
They're just like, okay, fine.
lauren southern
Well, it's almost better keeping them in states where you're going to have judges that are, you know, not going to be so biased towards progressivism.
ian crossland
What if they sent them to Alaska, but then the bus got lost?
Halfway up through Canada.
unidentified
Uh-oh!
ian crossland
That would suck.
tim pool
It's like, hey, get on this bus to DC and the driver's going like, whoops, I accidentally turned towards Mexico.
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Good luck, man.
I'm hearing that they're saying New Hampshire might go Democrat for the Senate, and I'm like, that's crazy to me.
All those freestaters up there in Vermont would go Democrat?
You got people with flamethrowers up there.
They're gonna vote to ban their own flamethrowers?
Alright, so there's just not enough freestaters in New Hampshire, man.
Okay, let's see.
Grab some Super Chits.
Linda Tarleton says, first live and first day as a Timcast member.
What is it?
It's a sham?
S-A-H-M for IRL?
What is that?
I don't know what it is.
But thank you for being a member.
All right, let's see.
That's a fair point.
Like, he's like, She!
It's Joe Biden!
And then she's like, starts talking.
I have many things to say to you, Joe.
But you said that Biden had a two hour long conversation with China.
How are we supposed to believe he was cognizant for that long?
That's a fair point.
Like, he's like, she, it's Joe Biden.
And then she is like, starts talking.
I have many things to say to you, Joe.
And then just like, and then she just talks for two hours yelling at Biden.
And then like, finally, I was like, oh yeah, okay.
I don't think Biden was cognizant.
Do you see that video where it's like, every sentence, it's cut?
ian crossland
I swear that's a deep fake.
Did you see it yet?
benjamin stewart
No, I didn't.
ian crossland
Have you seen it?
lauren southern
Honestly, every Biden.
I haven't watched a Biden video that isn't, you know, atrocious to this point.
So like, everyone keeps coming out with all these articles.
They're like, oh, look how funny Biden is being.
And I'm like, Okay.
Like that's a Tuesday?
We're still laughing at this?
ian crossland
There's this 15 second video of like four or five different four second clips or something like that.
And his eyes are really round and like black and they don't blink or move.
And his voice sounds deep.
It just seems like a deep fake.
benjamin stewart
Benny Johnson posted something where there's two Bidens.
One buggy eyed Biden and the other one's sleepy Joe.
ian crossland
I think the buggy eyed is a clip from that video.
tim pool
I think they just pre-recorded some of them, you know what I mean?
ian crossland
Like early in the morning with his morning voice.
lauren southern
I think the Camela ones are funnier, where she's like repeatedly going over the exact same concept.
tim pool
What was the... The predictive text generator?
lauren southern
Yeah, yeah.
She just keeps saying the same thing over and over again in different creative ways.
And I'm like, holy, you're bad at this, Camela.
And you're supposed to be the competent one.
Bad at it.
tim pool
I mean, it seems to be working to a certain degree.
They're 30-something percent approval rating.
lauren southern
Keep them confused.
Keep them running in circles.
benjamin stewart
Man, she is AI.
tim pool
All right.
Chrome Leader says, as a Texan, I agree that what our governor is doing is not the best tactic, but our hands have been tied.
At this point, it's malicious compliance.
Fair point.
Fair point.
All right.
The KL Tanker says, Congress should have to pass a test on the bill.
Get a 85% or better, then they can vote on it.
You know, it is a good idea, but the problem is, I think the system has become too cumbersome.
The issue is, when you had 35,000 people per district, they could go in and actually argue over a bill.
Now it's 700 and what, 75,000 people per district?
And it's just people screaming at each other, totally disparate cultures.
No agreeing on anything.
lauren southern
The more I think about that, like if I can fail a math test in grade five and get held back a year,
you should be able to fail the most important job in the country if you can't pass a test on what
ian crossland
you do. Come on. Yeah, I'm fully an advocate of hitting with a felony if they don't, but like,
how do you guarantee they read the bill?
I don't know.
lauren southern
Yeah, just like a really quick quiz.
I've always thought about this for voting too, like a really quick quiz that's just like, hey, what is a Democrat and Republican?
Even just like an ABCD test.
What are the candidates on your ballot that you're voting for?
And you just you put a few fake ones in there that are like Mr. Magoo or whatever and if someone guesses that their vote doesn't count because they don't even know who the hell they're voting for!
ian crossland
What are you talking about for voters?
unidentified
Both!
lauren southern
Our politicians and voters.
Like there are so many things we could do to improve the system.
I understand how it would be like...
I mean, you're denying the right to vote for idiots, but... I'm in favor of that.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got manifested destiny says Tim, please give a shout out to Eastern, Kentucky
The floods have currently killed 20 people and it's expected to rise
Appalachian people had very little and they lost what they had they need help. Yeah, man
Sad to hear it.
This is brutal stuff.
Floods are serious.
And additionally, Las Vegas.
Now, this is crazy.
Vegas flooding?
That freaked me out.
Like, it's a desert!
ian crossland
You think there's, like, conspiracy to change the weather and screw other countries over by flooding them?
tim pool
Conspiracy!
There is a group of people screaming that the climate is changing.
lauren southern
Harp, I'm talking like.
What is cloud seeding?
Is that what they call it?
Where they can actually like change the weather a bit?
tim pool
Cloud seeding's real.
Yeah.
Or not even, they use lasers now.
ian crossland
Yeah.
benjamin stewart
Wilhelm Reich was working on that in what, the forties, fifties?
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
That's 80 year old technology.
Yeah, for sure.
lauren southern
I think it's so cool that we could, like, attack other countries with hurricanes.
ian crossland
Yeah, I hear... that's what people are telling me, is that you can move hurricanes with... I'm gonna read this one from CJDN.
tim pool
He says, Tim, your moral compass is on point and your head is on straight.
I don't know about your guests, though.
Well, they're doing all right.
But I was like, I did read some disparaging comments about me.
I don't want to only be disparaging.
Someone, you know, gave me a...
ian crossland
I don't think they're talking about you guys, by the way.
I could be wrong.
benjamin stewart
No, they're talking about me.
I know.
I know.
tim pool
Well, this is important.
Sarah M says, will of the people is on my repeat playlist.
Perfect song.
Would love to hear a cover of the Mariners revenge song.
I feel like you would do it.
Well, we have like 30% of a music video done.
The song we're going to be releasing first is called only ever wanted.
And it is Carter, our music producer just hit this one.
It's a home run for sure.
I was shocked when I heard it, because I write songs like, typically write on acoustic guitar, and it's like folk, rock, acoustic, and then he took it.
The song is weirdly mostly backwards, like the instrumentation, and he made this really amazing song.
So we're gonna be releasing that, um, then we've got a couple other songs we're gonna be releasing as well.
We should have an album coming out August 21st.
I think it will have eight or nine songs on it.
We do have like 30 or 40 in the pipeline, but in this day and age, I don't know if that makes sense anymore.
Releasing albums?
We were actually thinking of just like putting out singles when they were ready, and then I was like, well, maybe we'll do that anyway.
But, um, we're gonna have, uh, Only Ever Wanted out really soon.
I think maybe even in like Could be in a week or two.
No, it's gonna be, I think, in, like, two or three weeks.
Because we're finishing the music video, uh, not this weekend, but the next weekend.
And so that's gonna be really cool.
ian crossland
I like the idea of doing a song every time it's ready, and then when the ninth song is done, you release an album with all nine songs on it.
tim pool
We could do that.
benjamin stewart
I was just gonna say what some music groups are doing is they'll record, they'll release like six or seven singles and then have a little grace period and then an album with like 10 or 11 songs.
New ones?
Yeah, well, I mean, 10 or 11 songs, including that original six.
So you put out the ones as they're coming out, and then you release a full album with a few more extra songs.
ian crossland
Yeah, Tool took like 17 years to put out their newest album.
benjamin stewart
Same with The Perfect Circle.
tim pool
Uh-oh, I gotta read this one.
We read the Liam Madden Super Chat.
Someone responded.
Exactly says, the Liam Madden guy supports red flag laws, abortion, and expanded gun control.
Vermonters, please don't vote for him.
Ooh, it's getting spicy in the Super Chat.
All right, last one from Iris with a... I will give you a preliminary.
Congratulations.
Iris, as I found out today, I'm pregnant with my first child.
Long-time listener and member.
Love the show.
Congratulations!
And thank you for the shout-out, and good luck.
Best of luck.
We'll get one more here.
Simo Lebit says, put out a song every week.
That's what Russ did, and he said it launched his career.
Well, it takes longer to finish the songs.
We could finish a bunch of songs and then put out one every week.
But we're also, like, filming music videos for them.
We... We're changing the strategy a bit, I suppose.
I was talking about how we had this big plan for a bunch of the songs that was gonna follow Will of the People.
And for a variety of reasons, we decided to...
Pick different songs which have different themes and different styles, I guess.
But, uh, there's one song I'm really excited for that I think act- I'm wondering.
So, Only Ever Wanted.
We've, like, showed it to people.
And they've all just been like, wow, this is the best song ever.
And I'm, like, probably assuming they're just blowing smoke and they're just saying that.
But I think it's good.
I personally like it.
And it's very different from my normal style of songs.
But the song we have, Genocide, I think might actually end up getting more play because it's political.
And so in this day and age, like Tom MacDonald for instance, Like, when you hear his lyrics, that means something to you.
People love it.
So, Only Ever Wanted is just, like, a typical song.
But, um, the song we have, Genocide, is actually directly about, like, media manipulation, conflict, and stuff like that.
So, I imagine people will hear the lyrics to that one and probably get into it more.
We'll see.
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benjamin stewart
Just go to benjosephstewart.com.
I'm making mini documentary style news segments every single week of everything from Lambda, Google's large language model thing being sentient, to anything you'll find in the news.
I follow a lot of what you do, Tim, and just kind of take it down a rabbit hole, like an alternative rabbit hole.
So if you're into that, go to benjosephstewart.com.
lauren southern
Hi, Lauren Southern here, still alive, still sober-ish.
You can follow me at Lauren underscore Southern or just look up my name on the YouTubes to follow my channel.
ian crossland
I'm Ian Crossland.
Lauren, that was a great call with the Grand Patron, a little bit of Manuka honey.
lauren southern
Of course.
ian crossland
Just a tiny bit, man.
That's sweet goodness on my throat.
benjamin stewart
Save the bees.
Yeah, that's the last thing I'll say.
ian crossland
Bye, everyone.
I love you so much.
I will see you next Monday.
No, actually, I'll see you next Tuesday.
I will not be here next Monday.
tim pool
We got a big show on Monday.
We got a big guest coming on.
ian crossland
I wish I was going to be here, but I'm going to take a weekend off and go refresh my mind and see some family.
I'm very excited.
Love you all.
unidentified
See you later.
lydia smith
Thank you guys all very much for tuning in.
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It's Sour Patchlets as well as SourPatchlets.me.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out everybody.
We will see you all.
We're going to have clips from the show up on the weekend.
We normally do.
And then we'll be back on Monday.
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