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Timcast IRL - DOJ COULD Charge Trump Criminally, Story May Be HOAX w/Ned Ryun & Lauren Southern
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unidentified
you you
so the big news that came out yesterday which we talked about a little bit was
that Donald Trump's actions are under investigation.
tim pool
And like clockwork, we can see exactly how the media handled it.
Nowhere in the report did they say Trump was under criminal investigation.
However, Merrick Garland in one interview said he wasn't ruling out possible charges for Trump, basically saying, look, if we find something, we will charge him.
So it's entirely possible they're fishing By investigating Trump's actions, they're trying to find something they can actually get him on, but maybe they can't.
Of course, now a whole bunch of media is saying, people are saying, audio?
What's going on?
Static audio feedback buzz?
lydia smith
Don't hear anything.
Let's check and make sure nothing's crossing wires under the table.
tim pool
Well, I don't hear anything.
lydia smith
I don't either.
tim pool
Could, uh, did you guys do a, did we do a sound check?
unidentified
We did!
Hey, yo!
tim pool
We're, we're, we're chillin' here, so, uh, we'll check.
ian crossland
People feel like audio has snagged.
tim pool
We might have to, we might have to turn the, uh, thing on and off.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Can somebody plug a laptop in?
unidentified
No, we would hear it, so... Favorite color.
ian crossland
Put your favorite color in chat.
unidentified
I'm going to be doing a lot of chat.
tim pool
How does it sound now?
Does it sound better?
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Let's see if it sounds better.
lydia smith
I'm going to check for cables overlapping.
tim pool
It's really bad.
lydia smith
It's usually what it is.
ian crossland
Buzz.
Thanks for the super chat, Jimmy Jo.
lydia smith
Somebody said it's just Tim's mic.
It's my mic.
tim pool
We don't have anything on our end.
ian crossland
Please do not speak.
Thanks for the super chat.
Tron.
Ian, please do not speak.
tim pool
It's better now?
Is it better?
Is it better now?
lydia smith
Fixed it!
People are saying good.
tim pool
Hey, there we go.
Hey, how about we start over?
How's it going, everybody?
So anyway, we got this story about Donald Trump, right?
They're claiming that his actions are under investigation.
And what does that really mean that someone's actions are under investigation?
It doesn't mean he is.
But of course, as we expected, many left news outlets started saying Trump is under investigation because surely that's what that means.
No, it doesn't.
That's the game they're playing.
At the same time, Merrick Garland was asked if he would bring about charges to Donald Trump and he didn't rule it out.
He says, you know, we're going to pursue justice equally or whatever.
So what does it really mean?
It may be one big media hoax trying to claim that Trump will be investigated or will be charged because they're trying to rile up Democrats to vote in November.
I don't know if I believe it.
So we'll talk about that.
We've also got some other really funny stories.
Trump is threatening to sue CNN saying he's going to do it.
And then The View has apologized to Turning Point USA, although many people are saying that it is inadequate.
And I listened to their apology, and I also think it's fairly inadequate because they really, really defamed TPUSA, who is now threatening to sue The View, which is probably why they issued their apology.
So we will be talking all about that.
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Without further ado, we are being joined by Ned Ryan.
ned ryun
Good to be with you.
Yeah, this is fantastic.
Who are you?
A lot of friends that have been on.
It's great to be here.
Founder and CEO of American Majority.
We do political training, state and local.
The goal being we've got to build a farm team at the state and local level.
That's how you bring about national generational change.
Kind of reverse engineering what the progressives did a hundred years ago.
Started a state and local reform movement built from the ground up.
Obviously radically changed this country, put us in the wrong direction.
I'm a big believer that politics is policy.
That unless you win politically, all you're doing is having great conversations about policy.
You have to have political power to actually implement your ideas.
tim pool
I think we got to change culture.
ned ryun
Yeah, no, that's actually absolutely part of it.
I think that's more of a long-term play.
I think the short-term play, people do ask me how we're going to get back to normal.
We get political power and we beat the left into unconditional surrender.
But you have to be focused on actually doing that in a systematic way of identifying, training, getting people into office, having the right ideas implemented.
tim pool
Telling everyone to go and vote for, get three of their friends to go out and vote in November.
ned ryun
Yeah, get out and vote.
Voter registration.
We train people on some of that.
There's a lot of different things that I think are required and been involved in the movement for a while.
And it's been one of those things that the conservative movement has to be more oriented towards action.
I feel like we get stuck on our ideas and we like to write white papers and talk about all these fantastic ideas, but it's towards action.
Action is the soul of revolution.
tim pool
Sounds good, man.
This should be interesting.
Plus, they got 538s claiming Democrats are actually favored to win now.
But we'll see.
ned ryun
That's insane.
tim pool
I know, I know.
ned ryun
I know you want to... We'll get into it.
We'll get into it.
tim pool
Lauren Southern's back with my $1,000 whiskey.
lauren southern
Pleasure to be here.
ned ryun
In a paper cup.
lauren southern
Absolutely.
I'm just... I make movies and I'm here to drink Pappy.
That's about it.
tim pool
She's intentionally putting $1,000 whiskey in a paper cup because she knows all of the whiskey fans are going to get triggered.
lauren southern
Oh, disgusting.
ian crossland
That was a...
ned ryun
That was a club four, too, by the way.
unidentified
This is solid.
tim pool
Lauren, for those who don't know, you make movies and you drink whiskey.
lauren southern
Yeah, I'm a documentary filmmaker, do a little bit of shitposting on the internet here and there, but mostly, yeah, just movies, YouTube videos, cultural commentary, all that.
Oh, am I not allowed to swear?
Have I already broken the rules?
tim pool
I mean, you can.
ian crossland
We just try not to, because you just smashed the glass ceiling.
lauren southern
I get one.
I get one pass, right?
tim pool
Yeah, once a month.
YouTube cares.
ian crossland
Nah, nobody cares.
tim pool
Alright, we got Ian chillin'.
ian crossland
Hi everyone.
I did put some collagen in my coffee.
I absolutely love this stuff.
tim pool
That's the Keto stuff.
ian crossland
I put the C8 MCT and a little bit of collagen.
This is not an ad, it's just delicious.
tim pool
He really does do it.
ian crossland
Follow me at IanCrossland.net, but let's talk more about... I want to talk to you, Ned, about the political action.
Because you're actually inspiring people to run for office locally.
This is badass.
ned ryun
Yeah, no.
And you've got to equip them to be successful.
To win.
It's all about winning.
Which we've kind of lost sight of.
tim pool
Agreed.
ian crossland
Love it.
lydia smith
And I'm also here in the corner.
I'm very excited to talk to Ned.
He's very knowledgeable in history, and Lauren is always a blast as well.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the big story from CNN.
Merrick Garland does not rule out charging Trump and others in January 6th probe.
And I'm just going to say it.
I don't want to bury the lead.
I think the story is a big hoax.
I think it's a big nothing burger.
And how do you say nothing while still riling up Democrats?
This is exactly how you do it.
You go to someone when there's no criminal investigation and no charges and say, would you charge him if you found a crime?
Well, we're not going to rule out anything.
There's no, there's no, look, let me show you the story from Washington Post.
Justice Department investigating Trump's actions in January 6th criminal probe.
And we addressed that a little bit last night, but I'm like, I'm seeing all this news pop up.
I got to just say it right now.
Let me put it this way.
Lauren Southern is drinking my very expensive whiskey.
Let's say we did not know who was doing it.
And so I decide, I know Ian doesn't drink it, but I'm going to investigate what he was doing this night.
Not that I'm accusing him of stealing my whiskey, but something he did may lead me to information about what happened to my whiskey.
This is how I know, this is why I would say in my opinion, this story from the Washington Post is total BS.
Investigating Trump's actions?
You can't criminally charge someone's actions.
It may be that they're fishing.
It may be there's someone else under criminal investigation, and they're looking at what Trump said to him to see if this person committed a crime.
But I'll just tell you right now, if Trump really was under criminal investigation, they would be screaming it to the high heavens.
ned ryun
Right.
But can we get down to the bottom of what this is all about?
They're terrified of him.
The January 6th committee hearings, this ridiculousness, they're terrified of him running again.
They do view him as an existential threat to the system, to the administrative state.
This is what all of this is about.
It has nothing to do with anything because there is no validity to it.
tim pool
He said he was going to fire everybody.
ned ryun
Exactly.
How do you actually get Trump to not run again in 2024 and ostracize his political supporters from the body politic?
That's what they're trying to do.
And I think it's great.
He's taking it head on.
I mean, he came back to D.C.
the other day and spoke in D.C.
and people called it controversial.
I have no idea, like, why is it controversial that a former president came and spoke in D.C.?
Oh, because of January 6th, the show trial?
Which has nothing to do with anything about the facts that happened on January 6th?
tim pool
The big story was that he called for the death penalty for drug dealers.
lauren southern
Ooh, like Duterte, very cool.
tim pool
He was like, China doesn't have a drug problem.
ned ryun
I think the January 6th committee hearings have actually helped him on the path to running again for re-election, have actually strengthened him.
tim pool
I agree, and I'll tell you why.
In a re-election bid.
I agree with you, and I think it's because the show trial has been so absurd that it's actually weakened their case against Trump.
I think the less people knew about it, many of them were probably like, wow, something bad happened.
Then you get this show trial and there's many inconsistencies.
Cassie Hutchinson.
ned ryun
It was all hearsay.
tim pool
Donald Trump jumped and grabbed some guy's neck.
People are probably like, what?
lauren southern
Listen, Megatz, you just don't understand.
We're gonna get him this time.
I wonder if there are actually people out there, though, like Democrats that are just sitting there watching The View every day, watching Rachel Maddow, that are like, oh my gosh, every time they get riled up and they're still falling for it.
Do those people exist?
ned ryun
They have to be out there.
Yeah, 25-30% I think actually believe it is embarrassing.
lauren southern
It's really embarrassing.
ned ryun
But I think a lot of the normies are looking at this, like you said, Tim, and going, no, they're there.
You're bringing in Cassidy, Hutchinson, all these people, it's hearsay, and then they bring in Pat Cipollone, who basically undermines the Secret Service agents.
The more that they're actually advertising and broadcasting, bringing in the ABC producer to Showtime, people are going, what are we talking about?
unidentified
Right.
ned ryun
There's no opposing, they can't get to, there's no cross-examination.
tim pool
Let me pull up this here amazing meme of Chris Pratt.
The top one is Chris Pratt with a shocked happy face saying the first time a Democrat hears the mainstream media say they have information that will totally bring down Trump.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then underneath it, it says the 4,689th time a Democrat hears the MSM say they have information that will totally bring down Trump.
And it's the same happy face.
No matter how many times they claim it.
lydia smith
Never gets old.
tim pool
I remember when, you know, it was like March of 2021, and these like deep conspiracy people were like, Trump's gonna get reinstated as president, it's coming.
And I'm just like, me and every other sane person was like, guys, that's never going to happen.
ian crossland
It's kind of like when people watch the same movie over and over again, or listen to the same song, and they like it more as they hear it more.
Like, the 30th time you hear a song, it's like, oh, now it's even more part of my soul.
So, like, is that what's happening with the media telling them Trump is bad?
Is it, like, getting more?
They actually like it even more the next time they hear it.
lauren southern
They're all hopped up on hopium.
There's no coming down.
ned ryun
They're desperate for it to be true.
They are absolutely desperate for it.
ian crossland
What would it accomplish if it were true?
What would it accomplish, for instance, positively for the country and for people?
What do you think would happen?
ned ryun
Absolutely nothing.
No, I mean, it would only accelerate the rapid...
Separation in parts of our society and culture.
If you were to weaponize... This is the other thing, too, that I love that Trump's standing up to this.
Somebody's actually standing up to the weaponization of the law, which is Trump.
Which, if we're not very careful, that's how republics, which technically we still are, end.
When you weaponize the law against political opponents.
That's exactly what Democrats are trying to do here.
lauren southern
See, that's the problem.
They're weaponizing it against opponents.
We just need to weaponize it against all politicians.
ned ryun
I don't disagree at all.
I'm an equal opportunist here.
unidentified
If we put them all in jail, I'm okay with it.
ned ryun
Like, I don't know, trading stocks with your insider information?
tim pool
But you're just talking about accountability for these people who never face it ever.
Yes.
ned ryun
Never once.
At some point, I mean, at some point, equal application of the law is foundational to our constitutional republic.
We have a bifurcated system in which we are now weaponizing the law against political opponents because reasons.
And that's what it's because reasons.
tim pool
This is what the media does.
Take a look at this from The Independent.
Donald Trump being investigated by DOJ in January 6 criminal probe report says no, it doesn't say that at all.
This is how they launder the information. There's no story.
The Washington Post has no story.
The story is investigators asked some people about what Trump was doing or something like that.
And it's like, OK, does that mean Trump is being investigated criminally? No, it doesn't.
He may maybe he will be. You know, there's a possibility that they're trying to tread
lightly in going after him to not shock the system and cause riots.
If they came out and just announced they were doing it, people might get mad.
So maybe they're trying to slow roll it.
I think the reality is they got nothing.
And so they're trying to make it seem like something is happening.
And that's why they put the story out.
lauren southern
Yeah, well, they need a story.
I was just reading a Daily Beast article the other day that said the Pope has come to apologize for mass graves in Canada.
Of course, there's no mass graves and the Pope didn't come with those intentions, but if you scroll down and you click the hyperlinks in the article that's referencing, it all links to other Daily Beast articles that are completely irrelevant to the article itself.
And it's like, the way they source this stuff, the way that they write these articles, just desperation for something to latch on to that's You know, hyper-exaggerated for the audience.
It's tearing our civilization apart.
unidentified
Corporate propaganda.
lauren southern
It's tearing us apart.
ned ryun
Corporate propagandists.
I refuse to call them mainstream media on any level.
It's corporate propagandists who are not there to actually get to the truth of something, but to amplify the message, the narrative of the system.
tim pool
Yeah, I think for a lot of these people it's emergent.
You know, some people believe that at these news organizations there is a, you know, hierarchy of a cabal telling them you must claim Trump did this or that.
In reality, it's just people trying to maximize what is acceptable within their sphere to get more clicks.
So what happens is the Washington Post publishes a story, exclusive, Trump's actions being investigated.
It means nothing. Someone at the Independent is like, ooh, ooh, ooh, I want to get clicks.
Trump's being investigated. Because I've heard people say that to me. They said, Tim,
this means Trump is being investigated. I'm like, no, it doesn't. In fact,
even Maggie Haberman at the New York Times wrote, this does not mean Trump is under investigation.
But they try and do it. This is how these, you know, Facebook moms and MSNBC moms and dads get
their minds warped. That they're So this independent story is going to get laundered again.
And you're going to get some pundit on MSNBC saying, and now the DOJ is investigating Trump in a criminal probe.
I mean, this guy's going down.
The walls are closing in.
They're going to believe it.
lauren southern
And reference the independent and everything because they all just, yeah, they reference each other's opinion pieces eternally until... It's an echo chamber to amplify the message.
ned ryun
No, it is.
But I think you're onto something.
Obviously, they feed off each other, but at the same time, they all come from what I call indoctrination centers of higher learning.
They've all come out of the same system, so they all think the same way.
They all view the world the same way, and they just end up in different parts, and they amplify each other.
But they're all coming from the same call it world trilateral. I don't know who's doing what's
ian crossland
this liberal international economy is like it's there's the liberal international economy the US
Britain Australia and then there's the Chinese international economy which is like China Russia
India and the thing about it is like yeah there's like they've mobilized the media.
ABC, CNN to work for the liberal international economy.
lauren southern
Yeah.
ian crossland
But I think if Trump was president and was nationalizing industry, that it would actually
be very good for the liberal international.
I don't understand why it's like a personal vendetta between him and Hillary Clinton when
he's like, you should be in jail.
He started the whole weaponizing your politics.
He threatened to put her in jail on his campaign against her.
tim pool
They I've talked about it ad nauseum with the Qatar Turkey pipeline, Donald Trump getting
our troops out of the Middle East, him saying, I don't care about these oil pipelines.
That was bad for the liberal international economy.
ian crossland
They want a new world.
They want a new world economy.
They do want a new world order.
They've said it many times.
And maybe Trump's just not.
They think he's not the guy to establish the new Trump doesn't want that.
Well, there's got to be some sort of world order.
Otherwise, it's world chaos.
lauren southern
It's the boomer world order.
Okay.
How old is Hillary Clinton?
Does anyone know?
tim pool
She's like 74.
unidentified
Okay.
lauren southern
Do you know what the average age of our politicians or prime ministers, presidents in the US was?
For the past, like since the dawn of time, it's usually been around 50.
It's only been the last few presidents that have been like 70s, 80s, like getting up there.
And it's because the boomers just will not let go.
They won't let go of the industries.
They won't let go of the political positions.
And then you've got a lot of young people, millennials, Gen X, all these younger generations that see no upward mobility in anywhere in politics, no ability to influence the system.
And the boomers will never give it to them.
So like as much as I like Trump as a politician, it's just, you know, it's all of this same generation refusing to let go of civilization and then every other generation has become apathetic.
tim pool
I will say though, the boomers aren't all bad.
There are some bad ones, and they've latched on to power.
What I think the problem is, is that millennials are probably going to be worse.
Now I know, I can hear the Gen Xers already screaming, saying, you're cutting us out.
And I'm like, no, no, it's because actually Gen Xers I don't think are all that bad.
They're not the ones who are squeezing the reins of power and corrupting the system.
These are people who are coming in and doing a moderately good job, and Millennials are nuts.
So when the Boomers finally relinquish power and it floods down to Gen X and Millennials, those insane Millennials are going to just really screw things up.
ian crossland
They're setting an example, these Gen whatever they are, the old people in power right now, that to the Millennials, if they do get in power, they're going to want to be there for 50 years, because that's what happened before.
But they should be in and out.
People should be in and out.
ned ryun
Yeah, this was never intended, what we have today.
It was never intended to be 40, 50 years in the Senate, whatever it is.
It was meant to be much, I mean, the average term for a congressman, I think, was what, two?
Until turn of the century, turn of the 20th century.
I mean, there were a lot of things that have changed dramatically over the last 100 years.
You were never meant to be there for as long as they've been.
But no, a little bit on, I totally agree it's time for new leadership.
We've got great leadership coming up.
Ron DeSantis, Josh Hawley, I'm hoping J.D.
Vance, Blake Masters.
You're going to see a lot of 30 and 40-somethings who are going to be leaders in the Senate.
You know, my perfect world is Trump 2024 and Ron DeSantis, you know, 2028, 2032.
Trump DeSantis 24, what do you think?
Uh, I actually love that idea.
If they could work it out, I think Trump would have to go have his, uh, in New Jersey and, and DeSantis out of Florida.
tim pool
But yeah, I've heard, I've, you know, I've heard that, but I don't, I, I read that wasn't true.
That really the president and the vice president.
Yeah.
That's a relic of the 1800s.
ned ryun
Okay.
But that could be regardless.
I think it'd be a great ticket.
tim pool
Trump is in New Jersey right now.
ned ryun
Right.
I think it'd be a great ticket.
And I think if you had Trump DeSantis, you set him up perfectly for a run in 2020, he'd only be 49, something like that.
lauren southern
Yeah, we need to make room for these new people.
There's some really good new young faces coming out.
ned ryun
I totally agree.
I want one last run with Trump.
And I want him to announce before the midterms, by the way.
I wrote a piece on that today.
tim pool
Why do you think he should announce before the midterms?
ned ryun
Because I think he's an asset.
Everybody wants to say he's not an asset.
I think he's an asset.
He reminds people of what was, not what is.
What did we have?
We had 1.7% inflation.
We had 3.5% unemployment.
tim pool
Two dollar gas.
ned ryun
Jobs were coming back.
gas, we had a booming economy, domestic energy, net exporter, and all these great things.
tim pool
Jobs were coming back.
He brought the auto industry back to Michigan.
ned ryun
Yeah, manufacturing jobs, all of these great things.
He was taking it to China.
He was emphasizing, even though he wasn't as successful on the southern border as he
could have been, he was still getting there.
He can remind people of what was, hey, you want this back?
Get all these people in and we can get us back on the course of taking back the country in 2024.
I think he announced this Tuesday after Labor Day.
ian crossland
You know what?
When he talked about building a wall instead of he phrased it as like, we got to keep out.
And then the media was like, Mexicans.
What he kind of meant was, like, the cartels and child trafficking.
But he didn't emphasize that enough.
ned ryun
But did you see the really funny article today in the LA Times about Mexico City that are deeply resentful of all the Californians and Americans?
We don't want them here.
They're changing our culture.
We want them to go home.
Yes!
You didn't see this?
It was amazing.
lydia smith
LA Times.
ned ryun
I'm like, I tell you what, I'll make a deal with you, Mexico.
We'll take back all the Americans.
you take back all the Mexicans.
We're good.
lydia smith
Now you see what it's like.
ned ryun
No, it was actually quite hilarious when they admitted, we don't like having them here because they're changing our culture.
They're changing everything about this city, Mexico City.
We don't want them here.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ned ryun
But no, I mean, yeah, I think Trump could have been, especially in the cartels, Could have been a little bit more precise.
But again, I mean, you deal with the issue of illegal immigration.
tim pool
Let's pull this story up here.
We got from the LA Times.
I don't know.
What would you call this?
Irony?
ned ryun
A total irony!
tim pool
LA Times writes, Californians and other Americans are flooding Mexico City.
Some locals want them to go home.
lydia smith
Amazing.
tim pool
Fernando Bustos writes, Gurasby was sitting with friends in a cafe when he realized that once again they were outnumbered.
We're the only brown people, said Bustos, a 38-year-old writer.
We're the only people speaking Spanish except the waiters.
lauren southern
It's the Great Replacement.
ned ryun
Yeah, it's the Great Replacement.
That's what I thought was the funniest line.
We're the only people speaking Spanish here.
We feel cut out of our own.
unidentified
Huh.
The influx, which accelerated since the start of COVID.
tim pool
Well, but it's not Mexico.
It's people coming from Guatemala, Honduras.
They're coming from South America.
They're coming from Africa.
ned ryun
No, I totally agree.
I mean, it's more than just Mexicans coming across the southern border, but this highlights the point.
Oh, so you don't like it.
lauren southern
Okay.
And most are against people coming to America, too.
Like Mexicans, they typically are really against illegal immigration.
tim pool
Yeah, they were really angry that the Central Americans were coming up from Mexico.
ned ryun
Right.
tim pool
So what we're really seeing is that What I think you'll see from this is that people who love their countries, who work hard and support their nation, regardless of their cultural background, their ethnic background, don't like it when other people come to where they are and disrupt their way of life.
And Americans were doing this because of COVID.
People were leaving the United States because of the lockdowns and the restrictions, and Mexico was freer.
And so now they're like, they're coming here, they're bringing their problems with them.
I see it as ironic.
In that it's the Americans leaving.
I see it as perfectly predictable that citizens of Mexico City would be upset that other people from a different country are coming into their country and changing their way of life.
ned ryun
Nationalism isn't a bad thing.
tim pool
Yeah, I think one of the most important things, even if you're talking about globalism, you need to have sovereign national borders.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Because people need to be able to set their own laws based on their cultures and their ways of life.
If there are people who want a one world government, right?
It will never happen if borders are dissolved because people will be fighting with each other endlessly.
ian crossland
It's the same as in nationalism.
You need statehood because you can't have a national police force on every street corner.
You got to have local laws, just like in a global force.
You need national laws.
lauren southern
People who understand the local community problems, how to solve them.
You can't solve them from far away.
unidentified
What a shocking concept.
lauren southern
Yeah.
tim pool
But I mean, like, even thinking about this is kind of funny.
You know, we don't have borders between states in the way that countries do.
And so what happens when someone from Michigan looking for work goes to New York?
People keep flooding to the cities because cities have jobs and their areas don't.
That hurts everyone involved.
So if you had actually borders which were more difficult to cross over, when Michigan's economy started breaking because the auto industry was leaving, you wouldn't have the mass exodus, which means the economy may have gotten hurt but could have recovered much more quickly with more people requiring services and working for each other.
Instead, families left.
So this idea of, like, multi-nationalism, I guess that would be, like, multi-statism?
ian crossland
I don't know.
Like, multi-nationalism would be, like, when a corporation has their headquarters in the United States, but all their production or that bunch of production is overseas, out of the United States.
So, like, maybe you live in Michigan, but you work in Minnesota or something like that.
It's legal and it's totally fine and acceptable, but when you see multinationalism, that's pretty destructive.
They don't have any allegiance to the United States, even though they're raking in all the benefits of tax law.
ned ryun
This has always been one of my frustrations with the 2017 tax bill, that I thought it favored the corporations too much over the small businesses, because these corporations were not America first.
They have no inherent loyalty to this country.
tim pool
Exactly.
ned ryun
They're trying to get the best tax rate they can get and take advantage of the tax system.
But there's no inherent loyalty, and we should have— I made this complaint to the White House.
We should have had more favorable terms for the small businesses because half the workforce is small business.
tim pool
Well, what do you think about the idea of a global minimum tax for corporations?
I don't know if I've given a ton of thought to it.
where it's like we the idea I guess is that a company in the United States will
be like we're gonna move our headquarters to this country where all
right to get a tax break right so the idea is if all these countries come
agree to a treaty it'll stop the corporations from moving and I'll stop
ned ryun
moving and getting yeah it's I don't know if I've given a ton of thought to
I don't think I'm opposed to in principle but I think you know yeah
tim pool
I haven't given enough thought to it.
Someone's going to point out in the chat, like, here's a ridiculous problem that will arise from there.
ned ryun
Probably.
tim pool
But there is an issue that, you know, corporations move their headquarters wherever they can to save their tax money.
So they're basically ripping us off.
Not that I'm a big fan of taxes across the board, to be honest.
ned ryun
No, of course.
tim pool
Yeah.
ned ryun
No, no, no.
I think that's something that we could have a conversation about across the board, including property taxes, which I find deeply offensive.
tim pool
Let's read some more of this LA Times story, because I do think it's kind of funny.
They say, at Lardo, a Mediterranean restaurant, where on any given night three quarters of the tables are filled with foreigners, a Mexican man in a well-cut suit recently took a seat at the bar, gazed at the English-language menu before him, and he sighed as he handed it back a menu in Spanish, please.
This is just... How is this real life?
ned ryun
I don't know if the L.A.
Times... I'm not sure they fully comprehended what they were writing.
lauren southern
Yeah, I've lived with this so hard.
I grew up in Surrey, B.C.
If anyone knows, the area that I grew up in is like 70% immigrant now.
It's pretty wild.
And you go to some places and it's like, I literally can't order food here because no one speaks English.
But if I say that, I'm a racist.
If L.A.
Times writes about someone who's brown having the exact same experience as me, because we're all human and we all enjoy Being able to speak with other humans around us and being able to read our menu, suddenly it's not racist when someone else has the exact same internal experience?
unidentified
Wild.
tim pool
Go to any country, and I assure you, say you're in Turkey, and you hear someone speaking a North American- you hear them speaking English.
It doesn't matter what their accent or dialect is.
They're speaking English.
I assure you, you're gonna see someone else be like, hey, you speak English, where are you from?
I was in Turkey, and I was in this tower, I think it's on the Great Horn or whatever it's called.
It's like an old watchtower, and it's a tourist attraction.
I went up there, and everyone's speaking foreign languages, and then I hear two people speaking with a North American dialect.
And then I was like, hey, are you Americans?
And they're like, no, Canadians.
And I was like, good enough.
What's going on?
What are you doing?
Like, hey, someone I can talk to.
And we talked and it was fun.
That was it.
End of story.
It was like, hey, you know, what are you doing here?
You know, it was... It's wild.
lauren southern
It's wild to me that, you know, like the left always talk about getting mad about the Great Replacement in like a racial context.
Right.
But it's like, You guys don't even acknowledge how damaging it is to have so many people come in who just don't speak the same language.
Language is the only way we can connect as human beings, do business, educate each other, love each other.
ned ryun
Have common values.
lauren southern
You guys won't even acknowledge the importance of that?
tim pool
Imagine you went to criminal court.
Charged the crime and no one was speaking a different language and struggling to communicate.
ian crossland
That's what happened to Amanda Knox.
She was actually released from Italian prison, but her thing was that the language barrier was so harsh that they just threw the book at her and was like, she's a foreigner.
tim pool
They're doing it now with Brittany Griner.
So apparently the story was she doesn't speak Russian and her lawyer was barely translating what was going on and she had no idea what was happening.
ian crossland
So Amanda Knox kept repeating herself, saying the same thing, because that's all she knew how to say.
And the Italians took that as she's definitely guilty.
ned ryun
Yeah.
ian crossland
Dangerous language barrier.
I'm a huge advocate of bringing, it doesn't have to be English, but a common language to Earth.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
lauren southern
I think the internet is... Sorry, we messed that up already with Tower of Babel.
ned ryun
You had like a couple thousand years ago.
ian crossland
The problem with that is they put it all in one place.
So when the tower got blown up, it was lost.
But like if it was diasporate and like everywhere, you know, sort of in orbit, underground, in everyone's bedroom, like everyone's got their data, maybe there's some value to it.
But the problem is if you lose other language, because other language gives you reference that you don't get in English.
Like certain, the word like groomer.
Like, it has an English definition, but when you talk about what that means, like groom a dog, in other languages, it takes on other connotations, and you need that external reference to get a fuller picture, in my opinion.
tim pool
So, there, obviously, anyone who's ever tried to teach someone another language knows we say things that seemingly make no sense.
lydia smith
Idioms, yeah.
tim pool
What's up?
Like, what does that even mean?
You're asking someone, what are you currently doing and what's happening in your life?
ned ryun
Right.
tim pool
That's like, oh, it's such a... Sup?
So if someone is trying to learn English, and you tell them what's up, they'll look at the ceiling.
They'll look at the lights.
They don't understand that context in cultural language, so it's like, you gotta learn that stuff too.
There's so much in language that people don't understand is relevant, or requires personal experience of the thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Especially feelings.
There are many languages that have words for feelings that are really hard to explain to an English speaker because they've not experienced it without that, you know, understanding.
ned ryun
Yeah.
tim pool
It's weird.
lauren southern
And we've simplified a lot of things, like obviously the word love.
We, that's just love.
We just use it for everything.
Sexual love, familial love, we just throw it in one word.
But then you have the Greek, um, Greek version, which has like, you know, 12 or something.
unidentified
Eighth.
ian crossland
Falasha is self-love.
lauren southern
Agape.
ian crossland
Love of the community.
tim pool
Ian brings it up all the time.
ian crossland
I'm obsessed with it.
ned ryun
Philadelphia.
ian crossland
You get that love is love statement, that ridiculous statement in the pedophile or whatever community, the MAP, the Minor Attractive Person community.
And it's like, no, erotic love, eros, is a specific kind of love.
It's not familial.
lauren southern
Did you just call it the Minor Attractive Community?
I hate that so much.
ian crossland
I just noticed there's the medical psychedelic practices, the MAPs thing, and then there's the MAP, Minor Attractive Person.
Have you seen that?
MAP is like, the MAPs is like a psychedelic Trump says he intends to sue CNN for defamation.
unidentified
well let's let's i'm going to let you know that all ridiculous let's let's
tim pool
let's talk about this other story of national review trump says he intends to sue cnn for defamation
now how much is this just from blown smoke or is he really gonna do it
lauren southern
it's impossible to see people It is.
tim pool
It really is.
lauren southern
People don't get it.
ned ryun
Was it Clarence Thomas?
Did he say that there's a potential case coming in front of the court that will change and actually loosen the standards by which you can actually do these sorts of things?
I think that would be a very healthy step in the right direction.
tim pool
So here's what Trump said.
He said, I have notified CNN of my intent to file a lawsuit over their repeated defamatory statements against me.
I will also be commencing actions against other media outlets who have defamed me and defrauded the public regarding the overwhelming evidence of fraud throughout the 2020 election.
I will never stop fighting for the truth and for the future of our country.
Now, that'll be interesting, and I don't think Trump will get anywhere with suing them over fraud stuff.
First and foremost, I think Trump thoroughly misunderstands a lot of the 2020 election stuff.
I think what we saw with Sidney Powell and Lin Wood really exemplifies that.
Trump was given a lot of bad info.
I think he's wrong in that regard.
ned ryun
He was, but I think he could have focused on the... A good friend, Molly Hemingway, wrote a book, Rigged.
I think there are definitely serious questions about 2020, but I think you were right.
I mean, Sidney Lynn, all these... And that's... The Kraken.
tim pool
Right, right, right, right.
ned ryun
Crazy stuff.
tim pool
That threw everything into chaos, and I have to wonder if those people were intentionally working against Trump.
ned ryun
I feel like Lin Wood was.
tim pool
was. Well because I'll tell you you know I want to talk about the lawsuits of the media so I don't
want to get into it but I will mention you know Pennsylvania changing the rules on voting was
unidentified
ruled unconstitutional after the fact. But did you see what Wisconsin State Supreme Court just said
ned ryun
recently? They said that the unsecured ballot drop boxes were illegal.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right.
ned ryun
It might have called into question the election.
There's a lot of stuff that's weird about it.
tim pool
This is the problem with Trump and the fraud narrative is that it's procedural.
It's procedural questions on policy and law that need to be rectified and don't if that keeps becoming the narrative because It's universal mail-in voting rules, the question of the constitutionality of universal mail-in voting, election month versus election day, unmanned drop boxes.
So, I don't want to get into all that.
ned ryun
Yeah, we don't want to go down that.
tim pool
I want to talk about the media lying about January 6th and all of that stuff.
Certainly, Trump has his opinion on all those things.
I gotta say though, if he's suing on those grounds, dismissed instantly.
Because for one, the courts are going to be entirely biased against hearing any of this stuff.
But if he's talking about January 6th, then I think he might actually win.
Like what we're seeing now with the media saying... I'm not saying win in every single instance.
I know Lauren gave a look of doubt.
lauren southern
I don't think people, especially when you're a public figure like Trump, even starting these defamation lawsuits.
I mean, he'd have the money to do it, I guess.
We'd be able to start, but it's so difficult to win a defamation lawsuit, especially when you have other media writing the same thing about you.
Any media company will use that as a defense.
They'll say everyone else is writing the same thing, so we just wrote it.
ned ryun
But maybe it's not even about that.
I mean, maybe it's just about bringing this to the forefront again to have a conversation about all of these things.
tim pool
Here's what'll happen.
One news outlet, let's call it News Outlet A, will write something false about Lauren.
News Outlet B will pick it up.
News Outlet C will pick it up.
News Outlet A will retract and apologize.
And now you have two outlets citing each other.
And if you sue one of those, they'll say, it's reported as fact by News Outlet C. You sue them, they'll say, it's reported as fact by News Outlet B. And then even if it is wrong, they'll say, all we are doing is conveying what another news outlet already said, which we believe to be true.
There's no malice and we're allowed to say it.
lauren southern
And no one ever sees the correction.
It's always published on a different page months later, but it still counts.
It's still good enough.
You don't have to... That's what's crazy to me is there's like no legal recourse for if an article about you goes completely viral, there's no expectation that the apology afterwards that will prevent any sort of legal, you know, financial recouping will be as viral.
And there's no expectation.
One person could see the correction and that's still, okay, we're not legally culpable now.
That's nuts!
unidentified
Nuts!
tim pool
There's pros and there's cons.
The idea is that it's difficult to sue anyone in the public space, but the problem then is the corporate press lies about basically everything.
So I was thinking about this earlier.
In order to sue, you need standing and injury, which is insane.
How do you prove injury?
Are you going to go find the guy who wrote you the donor check, who cancelled it, and then have him testify that he was- I wrote the donor check and as soon as I saw that defamation I tore it up.
So proving that is insane.
I think we should be allowed to sue for correction.
That's it.
For correction, so you go to a court and you say, I can definitively prove the spirit of what they're saying, their statements are untrue, and then maybe they gotta pay legal fees if they lose for publishing something false, and that's fair.
And then it's like, then they gotta issue an apology, a statement, they gotta publish it on the front page and leave it up there for like a week or something for everyone to see.
It's remarkable to me that you can have a major press, a major news organization lie.
And so I've been through this.
I've talked to lawyers and they're like, what are your damages?
And then I was like, well, obviously they're trying to get me banned, shadow banned, reduce wages and things like that, or income.
And they're like, can you prove it?
It's like, unless we file a subpoena and discovery against YouTube to ask them if they're, and YouTube does this.
In response to smears, YouTube has deranked and shadowbanned many people hurting their businesses.
How do you prove that to a court?
At the very least, I should be able to sue and say, Your Honor, I can prove what they said is false.
I would like them to be ordered to issue a correction.
That's it.
There you go.
ian crossland
Do you think that in the correction, they should state that they were also sued to make a correction?
So it sets it apart from ones that they just chose to do?
tim pool
Yes, it should say, a court, upon finding of our defamation, has instructed us to correct the record and make sure our audience understands we were wrong on this count, and this count, and this count.
We apologize for the errors.
And it should be on their front page for a week.
ian crossland
That could incentivize them to do it before they get sued, so they don't have to make the say, like, hey, we got sued also.
tim pool
Well, so this is actually what happens.
Organizations will defame you, and then when you move to file a suit, they'll retract in a very weak and pathetic way to remove standing.
And then when you go to a judge, they'll say, they've already removed the article, okay, case dismissed.
And then I'm like, now I've lost donors, now people won't work here because the media has threatened, because- That's like pulling the bullet out of someone's arm and being like, eh, there's no bullet, so there's no proof that I shot- Yes, that's a good example.
Exactly.
Yep.
ian crossland
No, the wound's still there.
tim pool
We need reform on defamation.
Because I'll tell you this, if I made a mistake, if TimCast.com published something incorrect, and someone came to me and said, that's wrong, I'd say, sorry about that, we'll fix it immediately.
And there you go.
ned ryun
Yeah, because you're committed to actually, to the truth.
tim pool
So there's no net negative for those who are committed to the truth, if we have a system in which you can sue someone to force a correction.
ned ryun
No, I think this is a bigger question.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
I mean, obviously one of the Aspects of our society and our republic is a free and fair press that's meant to actually pursue the truth to provide transparency that can then lead to accountability so the American people understand what's going on.
There's accountability.
This is the one thing where we clearly do not have a free and honest press.
We have corporate propagandists.
What are the steps that are needed to actually get them to the point, grudgingly or otherwise, where they'll actually focus on trying to be at least objective on some levels?
I don't know.
tim pool
Got to win the market.
ned ryun
Yeah, I mean, part of it is winning the market.
At the same time, there have to be consequences for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ned ryun
Because there are no consequences right now.
They can get away with anything.
unidentified
Literally.
tim pool
They can say anything they want.
ned ryun
They can call January 6th people seditious insurrectionists, and there are no consequences for that when they had nothing to do with any of that at all.
tim pool
Well, there are people on January 6th who have been charged to that, but they're innocent until proven guilty.
But a lot of these people had doors open for them by police.
ned ryun
I've seen videos, yeah, they walked right past, the police just looked at them.
Cops waved them in?
tim pool
Yeah, they waved them in, opened the door.
One guy got acquitted because of it, and AOC, Ocasio-Cortez herself, agrees.
ned ryun
Yeah, on the steps of the Capitol.
Completely agrees.
No, if we can't get back to the point, I totally agree with the competition, control the market, or get more of a market share.
We've got to figure out how there are consequences.
ian crossland
It should not be for profit.
ned ryun
There should be pain.
Absolute pain for some of the stuff that they're doing right now.
tim pool
I mean, they lied about Trump every step of the way.
Almost every single thing, ever.
The Shinzo Abe thing, I remember that one.
When he was feeding the fish.
And they cropped the video so you could only see Trump dumping the food in.
And what they cropped out was that Shinzo Abe did it first.
He poured the food in and looked at Trump and then Trump said okay and threw his food in.
But they tried to make it seem like Trump did something wrong to insult him.
It's insane.
ian crossland
Could you say like any kind of news organization that would qualify under protections as a news organization has to be a 501c3?
No, no, no.
The for-profit news is crazy because they just make it up.
tim pool
It's a problem.
That's right.
So I'll tell you guys, it's really simple.
CNN, what should they do?
Should they spend $100,000 salary to investigate a story?
Or do they lie?
What makes more money for these corporations?
You put out a lie, you get a million bucks from this viral story, the next day you issue a retraction.
Here's the best part, the retraction makes money too.
Now the retraction, let's say, Someone, a news outlet, not just CNN, any news outlet writes an article that goes viral, claiming something insane.
They get all the ad revenue from it.
When they issue their retraction, a small percentage of people will read the retraction, which also has ads on it.
So they'll even make money retracting.
They don't give back the ad dollars when they retract the story.
They keep them.
I think you should be able to sue and you should get all revenue generated from the false piece.
lauren southern
Ooh, that's a good one.
I like that.
Love it.
I also think just like mocking these outlets into oblivion completely, it's like a scary thing to say we have to destroy faith in like the journalistic institutions, but we do.
We need people to just not trust them at all, which means what they'll do is when they go to sites to read, they'll have to Actually read the article they'll have to see if there's sources and then they can regain trust in a website They'll be like, okay this site that I've been reading for a while actually sources things.
I'm gonna start reading them There cannot be an immediate assumption that because it's a journalistic outlet.
It's going to be correct.
tim pool
It has to be the opposite It's an issue of human behavior though.
ned ryun
Yeah, I mean people don't even read articles they read headlines, but I was also gonna say Like, are people really looking for the truth?
Are they looking for something that will reinforce their presuppositions and biases?
lauren southern
They're looking for comfort.
ned ryun
I mean, we're just talking about, you know, for the 4,000th whatever time, are they going to get Trump?
It's reinforcing their biases.
They just want to hear what they already believe.
tim pool
Right.
ned ryun
So I don't know.
I think it's an interesting question.
tim pool
Let's talk about this next story.
We got this from Deadline.
The View apologizes after linking Turning Point USA to neo-Nazi demonstrators.
I don't think the apology was good enough.
ian crossland
No, it's not.
tim pool
They said, uh, Haines, Sarah Haines said, So on Monday we talked about the fact that there were openly neo-Nazi demonstrators outside the Florida Student Action Summit of the Turning Point USA group.
We want to make it clear that these demonstrators were gathered outside the event and that they were not invited or endorsed by, uh, invited or endorsed by Turning Point USA.
A Turning Point USA spokesman said the group, quote, 100% condemns those ideologies, and said Turning Point USA security tried to remove the neo-Nazis from the area, but could not because they were on public property.
Also, Turning Point USA wanted us to clarify, this was a Turning Point USA summit and not a Republican Party event.
So we apologize for anything we said that may have been unclear on these points.
ian crossland
This is the problem.
It wasn't what they said was unclear.
It was what they said was untrue.
I didn't get the original statement.
They said that there were neo-Nazis at Turning Point.
tim pool
Whoopi Goldberg said, initially, you let them in, though.
You let them in.
ian crossland
So they lied.
They didn't say something unclear.
They lied.
tim pool
They come back from commercial and they're like, we got to issue a clarification.
They weren't.
And she goes, they weren't in the building, but they were all, you know, in the mix.
ian crossland
You apologize for lying, not for being unclear.
It's different.
You lied, Whoopi.
Maybe she thought it was real and she said something that she thought was real?
tim pool
She lied.
ned ryun
But this is again what we're... They should sue.
tim pool
Oh yeah, this is probably not enough.
ned ryun
Like, for as much money as they can.
tim pool
The Nazis were protesting the event.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
In opposition to it.
ned ryun
But one of the ways you actually get some sort of accountability is paying.
unidentified
Right.
ned ryun
Big believer that there have to be consequences, and sue them.
ian crossland
Yeah, because then the producers will start putting it on Whoopi's neck.
Like, you can't keep bringing million dollar lawsuits around.
ned ryun
Yeah, you can't be doing this, and at some point the legal counsel's gonna come and say, hey, stop.
tim pool
You can't be- Well, they did.
This is the crazy thing.
ned ryun
I think- Well, no, after, like, another, maybe, a massive lawsuit that they lose and settlement- Well, no, no, no.
tim pool
When Whippy defamed them, they came back and she said, I have to issue a notice, they weren't in the building.
The producers clearly went to her and said, you can't lie like that!
And then she- they come back from commercial or whatever, and she's like, okay, everybody, they weren't in the building, but then she doubles down- So maybe some producers have some moral ethics on the view still?
It's not about moral ethics, it's about fear.
ned ryun
Well, it is about fear.
tim pool
Losing your job.
And so I think Turning Point should still sue because I'd argue this was not enough.
They needed to clarify.
The people who were there were actually protesting and hate Turning Point USA.
There was no connection.
The groups were... Turning Point USA people were screaming at them and they were like yelling at each other.
The view is just this is the game they play.
You lie, you issue a weak retraction and say we know that you can't handle the lawsuit so deal with it.
lauren southern
This is also, like, just an expose, as usual, of the ignorance that many of these mainstream outlets, shows, have of right-wing politics in general.
Like, even when I read academic articles about, like, the alt-right or something, they're all so unbelievably incorrect.
Like anyone who calls Charlie Kirk like far right or all right.
It's like you you literally know nothing about the dynamics of the right.
The right know everything about the dynamics of the left.
They understand them inward and outward all the different factions and groups but there's it's like a complete blind spot.
The right are just like Nazis.
All of them.
tim pool
Did you see the Crowder put out a video where he's talking to some college students and
one guy calls him alt-right?
He's like, what?
He's like, what does that mean?
And then everyone, like there's a black dude there and he's like, Crowder's not alt-right?
He's like, I watch Crowder all the time.
What are you talking about?
And the guy says, alt-right is like you and Ben Shapiro.
And he's like, Ben Shapiro is Jewish.
They don't know what it means.
They're mindless zombies, and this is the problem.
They get lied to by The View and other news outlets, and then they walk around saying things that make literally no sense.
But I'll tell you this, if you want to control people, keep them in a constant state of confusion, where they don't know what's happening.
As they say, the truth shall set you free.
ian crossland
Didn't Whoopi just said that Jill Biden should be our Surgeon General?
tim pool
That was a while ago.
ian crossland
She's a phenomenal doctor.
tim pool
That was a while ago.
ian crossland
Yeah, and totally ridiculous because she's like an education, a doctorate in education.
tim pool
She's not really.
ian crossland
Not a medical doctor.
tim pool
Not really even a doctor at all.
Anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like an educational honoraire.
ned ryun
I don't know.
lauren southern
Oh, she got an honorary one?
Nice.
tim pool
Let me make sure.
ned ryun
I think it was real.
unidentified
Yeah, I think there is a real... Like a skincare doctor or something.
tim pool
No, it's an educator.
ned ryun
Educator, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it's not a PhD.
It's something else.
Let me see if I can find it.
ned ryun
But that's a... Going back to the left.
tim pool
It's EDD.
ned ryun
The thing that's curious to me about the left, there's no intellectual curiosity at all.
tim pool
Oh yes, there is.
EDD.
Doctor of Education.
ian crossland
Okay, so it comes from... It's not a PhD.
Psychoactors and the kids.
tim pool
EDD.
That's what she has.
ned ryun
I think it's more than that.
tim pool
Educationist doctor.
ian crossland
So you're saying, so you're saying that people on the left in this, in this cult or whatever this is, this weird.
ned ryun
There's no intellectual curiosity.
They don't really want to understand because from the outset, they're all wrong.
So why should we have any curiosity in trying to understand where they're coming from?
So I, I mean, they literally have no curiosity about trying to examine any of our ideas or have a conversation because our conscience is wrong.
Our beliefs are wrong.
Our actions are wrong.
So we don't need to even engage with you on this at all.
tim pool
We do have an update here from Turning Point USA though.
They say tomorrow, join the protest.
Thursday, July 28th, 7 a.m.
outside GMA Studios in Times Square, 10 a.m.
outside The View Studio, 320 West 66th Street.
I'll just say this.
If you are in Times Square- Can you get a photo of those billboards we have up?
We're really trying- I'm just kidding.
ian crossland
Yeah, get one of me.
tim pool
Yeah, Ian's big out there.
ian crossland
I haven't seen a photo yet.
tim pool
I just want to stress that point, though.
While y'all are protesting GMA, and I think there's a billboard of me above their building.
So, like, this is the point I'm trying to make with those Times Square ads.
We're coming for their cultural spaces.
We are challenging them, we are winning, and they are getting really, really angry.
ned ryun
Remind me again, is there an ad for Chicken City?
tim pool
Yes.
ned ryun
There is?
Okay, good.
ian crossland
Two of them, actually.
ned ryun
Two of them?
Okay, I just want to make sure.
tim pool
96 foot tall billboards for Chicken City.
ned ryun
But Chicken City gets some love.
ian crossland
Yeah, well I just want to... And they deserve it.
ned ryun
Yeah, I'm fascinated by this whole concept.
ian crossland
Great people.
tim pool
Well, so the general idea with Times Square is that Our ads are going to be right next to Good Morning America.
And when regular people look up, they're going to see us on par, equal to them.
And we are going to call them out as liars.
And we are going to be of same status and stature on equal footing when we do it.
lauren southern
Is that something you could do?
Like if you knew there was an ad beside you that was like for the viewer or something, could you get like a, you know, I'm with stupid arrow or something?
Like you can do that.
tim pool
Yes.
Now that's so cool.
They might reject it.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But I think as long as I think most of these companies that do ads just want money.
So when, you know, I put up a, this billboard we have in Times Square is so big, I don't know what to do with it.
So they're going to take down the ad soon, the run is ending.
And then they were like, we'll send it to you.
And I'm like, it's 40 feet tall.
ned ryun
Are you finishing that?
ian crossland
I wonder if we could get three ads in one.
lauren southern
Okay, I'll give you a cup.
ian crossland
15 foot and all going like three different movies going at once.
tim pool
So the point was that we put that ad on top of the Good Morning America building.
So we've got a 70-foot ad on the top of the Good Morning America building.
So I wanted everybody to see us above them.
And make that point.
I think it's good branding, good marketing, good brand awareness and all that stuff.
As they keep getting dragged, keep lying and failing and screwing up, we're going to be there to take those cultural spaces back.
ian crossland
So hashtag SueTheView.
This is TP USA.
tim pool
Hashtag SueTheView.
lauren southern
Ned, are you not going to join me in using a paper cup?
unidentified
No.
ned ryun
No, I'm not.
I will.
No.
lauren southern
This guy thinks he's so much better than me.
unidentified
Look at this dude.
lauren southern
Okay, high class.
I see how it is.
ned ryun
It's just respect.
ian crossland
It's hydrophobic.
tim pool
Respect to the papi.
And there it goes.
ned ryun
That's it.
lauren southern
Cheers to the last of the papi.
ned ryun
Somebody has been the last of the pap.
lauren southern
Yeah, I've been.
lydia smith
She's been after it.
ian crossland
Happy papi.
ned ryun
That's savvy.
ian crossland
That stuff's costly.
Have they officially declared that they're suing The View, or is this just like, let's generate some press?
tim pool
I don't think they said that yet, but hashtag SueTheView is the hashtag for the event.
I'm assuming Drew Hernandez is going to be down there.
lydia smith
I'm sure.
tim pool
And so, Drew, if you're out there, I look forward to seeing all the footage and the coverage of what's going on with people protesting.
This should be exciting.
I'm glad to see that people on the right are organizing peaceful protests.
ned ryun
Yeah, and it's punching back.
ian crossland
Yeah.
ned ryun
I think this is the one thing that I loved about Trump is that he rejected the premise.
He wasn't going to take any punch back.
And I'd like to see this more across the movement where you come at us and we will come right back at you even stronger.
ian crossland
It's rapid to like when you're disciplining a dog, if it pees on the ground, you don't wait 20 minutes and then come back and yell because it doesn't know why you're yelling.
But if you do it right when it's doing it, it knows not to do that.
tim pool
There needs to be accountability.
Because so long as the left can burn down buildings without law enforcement intervening, it's insane.
I'll tell you this, I think... Can I just say, why hasn't any Republican filed a lawsuit to disqualify Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for running for office for waging insurrection against the United States by funding the bail for insurrectionists during the Summer of Love?
They want to... All that happens is the Democrats come out and scream insurrection for, you know, non-stop for months.
ned ryun
Right.
tim pool
There's no insurrection.
But if that's the game they want to play, they lost these lawsuits.
Okay, well, Kamala Harris directly bailed out people who were riding and burning... In Minnesota.
In Minnesota.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, sue her.
14th Amendment, she waged insurrection against the United States.
She provided material support to people who engaged in insurrection against this country.
ian crossland
Well, they don't do it.
ned ryun
But this is part of the problem, like on a 30,000 foot level.
On their side are religious zealots, right?
Politics for them is their religion.
They are religious zealots.
They are committed to it.
By all means necessary, they will have political power.
We're a bunch of careerists.
I'm going to go to DC.
I'm going to have a nice career at a think tank or in Congress.
And after 20, 30 years, be like, hey, that was a lot of fun.
No, they're interested in fundamental change.
They will do everything and are committed to it.
And we're like, I'm just here for a good career.
We have to completely, unless we actually become more religious zealots on our side, you're going to see more of this.
Why aren't we doing that?
ian crossland
It's part of why I don't consider myself conservative, because I do think we need literal, like radical liberal change, but for good, not like zealous change.
It doesn't need to be like my way or the highway, but the system needs to be drastically altered.
The Federal Reserve has annihilated our economy.
We need to take back control of our financial system.
ned ryun
Yeah, but I don't think we get back to normal unless we actually meet some of the religious zealotry with our own.
Again, I tell people we're not going to get back to normal until we beat the left and unconditional surrender.
I think we have to come to this.
This is not your granddaddy's Democratic Party.
This is an un-American left that has nothing to do with the founding ideals.
I'm not sure what we have common ground with them.
tim pool
Nothing.
ned ryun
Well, that's right.
So, I mean, how do you actually come to that point?
There is no common ground.
The only way you get to a common ground is to beat them into submission.
tim pool
I think God unconditional common ground on Epstein, you know, both the left and the right were like, Hey, what's up with that?
ned ryun
Someone, someone went to jail for a massive underage prostitution ring, but we don't know who.
tim pool
Who are they selling to?
But the left and the right both agree that there's something bad going on there.
Let me pull up this story here from, well I have a tweet here for myself, but it's a FiveThirtyEight story.
FiveThirtyEight says Democrats will hold the Senate, or at least they're more likely to.
This is why I always said when polling looks good, it may mean a red wave, but three months is still an electoral eternity.
Still, 530 could be dead wrong.
What they did was, 40,000 simulations, and they took a random sampling, it just says a sample of 100 outcomes, showing that Democrats win 52 in 100.
I think, as per usual, Nate Silver and his cohorts are so insanely wrong.
They've been wrong over and over again, they're probably wrong now.
How could Democrats possibly win in a moment like this?
Now, I do think it is within the realm of possibility they win.
I just think the fact that it's leaning in favor of Democrats makes no sense when we've seen, in Florida for instance, more Republicans registered to vote than Democrats.
ned ryun
I think Florida's not a battleground state anymore.
tim pool
Right, in Texas, the Rio Grande Valley, Republican.
When you see safe blue districts in 2020, flip.
I don't know how they think this could possibly happen, other than the one point is there are more Republican seats up for re-election than Democrat seats.
ned ryun
I remind people of last year in Virginia, a state that Biden won by 10 points, Glenn Youngkin essentially wins by 2.
12 point swing in a year.
That will be a year.
We'll have the midterms a year after that.
The trajectory has not changed for Joe Biden.
It's gotten worse for Democrats as well.
I tend to think anything that's 12, 13, 14, 15 points is actually in play for Republicans.
I think it's even to the point where anything that Joe Biden won by 20 points or less in 2020 is actually competitive.
tim pool
Have you looked at Gallup's data on this?
When they talk about first-term congressional losses?
Typically, the Democrats have an advantage and still lose.
ned ryun
rather rather the other things you got it I mean it's hard to be it has
happened very rarely that historical trends are beaten on average in the
first midterm that a party holds the White House since World War two they've
lost 28 house seats and four Senate seats They will have to absolutely defy historical trends, 80-plus year, about 80-year historical trends.
tim pool
And defy the economy, gas prices, inflation, cultural issues.
ned ryun
The other thing I'll remind people too, don't under...
Obama's Reuters approval rating was 44.7% October of 2010.
We all know what happened in November of 2010.
63 House seats, I think it was 7 Senate seats, 680 state legislative seats.
I think Joe Biden's average on RealClearPolitics was 37-something or 38?
tim pool
Joe Biden's aggregate approval rating recently dropped lower than Trump's worst possible aggregate rating.
So Biden is actually, has a lower approval rating at its worst point than Trump ever did.
ned ryun
So go.
I mean, Obama's party got clobbered in the 2010 midterms, and he's running about six, seven points ahead of where Biden is right now.
I mean, there's just a lot of different dynamics that are all falling into place.
I have a hard time believing that Republicans aren't going to pick up 35, 40 seats in the House.
I tend to think on the probably 53, 47 Republican majority in the Senate.
lauren southern
I think you guys are underestimating how much people really want Ukraine to have $40 billion for Vogue photoshoots.
ned ryun
Aren't we up to $53 billion or something?
I can't remember.
lauren southern
I think they really liked those Vogue photoshoots, right guys?
They were like, you know what?
That was my tax dollars.
Hard at work.
tim pool
I just think at a certain point, the corporate propaganda machine cannot overcome gas.
MSNBC can scream all day and night, and there may be some guy sitting in his lounge chair being like, wow, Trump's so awful.
Then he gets up to go to work, and he goes to the gas station, stops, and looks at that number, and just starts crying.
ned ryun
The Monmouth poll recently had the four top issues that were most important to voters.
It's all economic.
Gas, inflation, groceries.
tim pool
Do you know where abortion falls on Gallup's polling of 1%?
1% of people thinking it's the most important issue.
ned ryun
Have you seen what Rasmussen's been doing, which I think is really interesting?
The top eight issues for voters, the top eight issues, I won't call mainstream media, corporate propagandists.
There's no correlation at all between the top eight issues at all.
Not even close.
I mean, for the corporate propagandists, it's climate change, it's January 6th, it's all this other stuff.
For the actual voters, it's economy, inflation, gas, all of these things.
lauren southern
Real people issues.
ned ryun
Yeah, real people issues.
And I tell people, the closer you get to an election, the trajectories harden.
And we're pretty much into August.
We're just, what, 13 weeks out from the midterms.
These trajectories, unless something absolutely apocalyptic happens, these trends of Biden's gonna have worse approval, inflation's not changing, all of these things, and you're gonna come in November 8th and go, I am absolutely getting clobbered in the economy.
And these guys want to tell me that somehow climate change, January 6th, I should have abortion on demand all the way up to the point of birth.
Wait a minute.
You're not addressing my day-to-day issues here.
Get out.
lauren southern
There are some things that the political gaslighting can't seem to overcome and that money stuff is one of them.
I remember in Canada when Trudeau started bringing in the, oh, we're gonna freeze people's bank accounts for supporting the truckers, they immediately reversed all rhetoric on that.
As soon as Canadians started going straight to their bank and withdrawing tons of money out into cash because they were freaking out, the bank started shutting down ATM machines, they started preventing withdrawals, and they were like, holy, all right.
All right, backpedal, backpedal, backpedal.
This isn't good.
So I think, yeah, when voters start seeing, oh my gosh, I'm not going to be able to pay for my life, then it's going to hurt the politicians.
And then hopefully there'll be some damn change because we need it.
ian crossland
Yeah, I was thinking we could default on the interest of the Federal Reserve and then say, we'll pay you back, Federal Reserve.
We're going to return our Federal Reserve notes and then give people, you know, a U.S.
bank cryptocurrency in exchange and everyone will lose 20% of the money they turn in as some sort of currency recall.
ned ryun
Why would someone lose 20%?
ian crossland
Either that or just keep your U.S.
dollars and they'll be worth nothing.
So it's up to you.
You can turn them in and get 80% back.
tim pool
Why get 80% back?
ian crossland
Because that'll give a diminishing return to the very wealthy.
So the poorer you are, the less you lose.
So it'll kind of somewhat balance out the return.
tim pool
A percentage lost is a percentage lost.
ian crossland
But if you have a million, 20% is $200,000.
If you have $1,000, 20% is $200,000.
tim pool
And that's relatively meaningless to a rich person, and it's the end of the world for a poor person.
ian crossland
Then you could do a J-curve as well.
You could have a scaling.
tim pool
That's why we do a progressive tax.
If you've got $100 and someone says, we're taking $20 of those dollars away from you, you're like, that's my dinner on Friday.
If you've got $1,000,000 and they take $200,000, you're like, I've still got $800,000.
I don't know.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm open to a scaling return, uh, uh, diminishment, but we need some sort of, I don't know.
ned ryun
A massive reset to actually get out of this.
Yeah.
Fed reserve, whatever they're doing.
What was it?
3.75 rate hike today.
tim pool
3.75, right?
unidentified
0.75.
ned ryun
Yeah.
0.75.
There's, there's, that's not even close to addressing what's happening.
I saw someone tweet out that it's probably gonna have to be like a 20 point hike or something to actually stop it.
tim pool
I mean, that's what they did in the eighties, didn't they?
ned ryun
Yeah, I mean, you have to go massive drastic action.
I guess what you're talking about is a massive reset.
Say, hey, we have to do something very dramatic at this point to stop it.
tim pool
Well, I tell you, man, people need to learn how to tend to their own chickens, get space to do so, grow some vegetables, because Learn how to process deer.
Yeah, yeah, because the time may come, you know, look, we've been living in a golden age.
We have.
My lifetime, I was thinking about this, where it's like, I need to find a job, I'll go find a job.
You find a job, then you get paid 10 bucks an hour or something, you're living in the city, maybe it's 12 bucks, and then you're paying your rent, and there's no conflict, there's no fighting, other than, you know, crime here and there, that stuff exists.
And then I'm just like, man, Every other generation throughout history, people would just randomly die.
Like, life was dangerous.
You'd go out, and you'd be like, gotta go get the water, and then you'd fall in the river, and blah, you'd stub your toe, and then be like, uh-oh, it's infected, now I'm gonna die.
That's how, but now we have all these modern luxuries.
We've secured our, we had secured borders to a certain degree, and so we, our generation grew up with little to no conflict.
Now this is what you get from it.
Good times make weak men.
Weak men make bad times.
ian crossland
And so giving control of the economy to Rockefeller and JP Morgan in 1913, basically, people just got became their weakness, just their deferment of their responsibility of monetary control was the weakness that's brought us to this stage.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
lauren southern
It's a lot of things.
tim pool
It's a lot of things.
I think we've got cultural decay is a huge component of it.
ned ryun
But I was thinking about this recently.
We're a self-governing republic, but our founders didn't mean that we govern ourselves.
It's we govern ourselves.
And I think we've lost that concept of how does the individual govern himself or herself.
We've completely lost that concept.
lauren southern
It starts with family.
I think this is something I've had to really swallow the red pill on lately.
I was raised in a really good family with a really good community.
And when people spoke to me, they told me the truth.
My parents told me the truth.
They weren't lying.
They weren't doing underhanded things.
And that's how I learned to interact with other people.
And then I go out into the wider world.
And I have no concept of people are going to lie to me.
People are going to do messed up things.
People are going to try to set me up for failure.
And so I'm interacting in the world in this way that I learned at home.
And it's absolutely screwing me over.
And the only way to survive in the wider, larger world is for me to become like everyone else and learn how to lie, learn how to be underhanded or learn how to spot it.
And you don't really have a choice.
So when people come up in broken homes and they see their parents lying to them, they see them lying to each other, they see them just doing awful behavior, they learn that's the way to survive in the world.
And that's what our world has become.
It's the product of a lot of broken homes and people learning that lying is the only way to get by.
tim pool
But broken homes, you know, I think to your point, it's not just about poor homes.
It's about parents who are just dejected and removed from their kids or letting their kids do whatever they want without, there's no discipline, no strategy, no planning.
No expectations.
Participation trophies.
Where's the parent to be like, you lost son because you weren't good enough.
Train harder and you can be better.
Instead, it's like, I want my kid to have a trophy, too!
It's not fair!
And then the kid cries, gets a free trophy, and thinks, I didn't have to do anything to get this.
ian crossland
Yeah, winning is not the trophy.
Winning is the work.
Winning is doing the work to win.
Being able to win is the real victory.
ned ryun
The process.
tim pool
I mean, the way I see it is, you know, people often say, when they come hang out here, they're like, wow, you know, look at this thing that you've built.
And I'm like, I don't know, man, I wake up every day and I just add one more thing to what I'm doing.
Sure, if you came and looked at this facility now, you'd be like, how did all this happen?
And I'm like, This room didn't used to be here.
That room didn't used to be there.
That guitar didn't used to be there.
It's like we walk up one day and we're like, oh yeah, Ian puts a rock on the table.
Now Ian's got like 50 rocks on the table.
They're everywhere.
And it's just like one step at a time, you slowly get to that point.
And you have to treat life, in my opinion, that's how you treat it.
The ends don't justify the means because you never meet the end.
If every day you live your best day, like, I'll tell you this, people are like, I want to lose weight.
I did not lose weight recently trying to lose weight.
I just decided to eat better today.
So one day I was like, I didn't need any sugar or grains.
I'm just not going to.
Then the next day I was like, well, I shouldn't start now.
I had a great day yesterday.
I should just eat healthy today.
And then sure enough, I lose a bunch of weight.
ian crossland
Problem with politics is like the people treat the victory as getting the most votes so that they get the office and they get the scepter.
But like, That makes people do underhanded things to get the scepter.
And that's not real victory for us.
We need people to be their best.
And then whichever one of them is chosen, even the one that isn't chosen, still wins because they did their best.
But like you're saying, that doesn't seem to be how reality works, because the strong take or whatever is going on.
There's not enough to go around?
lauren southern
Yeah, I kind of view it as like life hacking.
If you're playing by all the rules, you're just going to kind of stay in this, you know, minimum wage kind of average salary, probably under 100k.
And then there's people that will like morality hack, and they'll get to a next level, you can lie to people, you can cheat people, you can get to all these higher positions when you can like, hack the system of morality.
And that's how you get these elites like Epstein that are like, oh, we're just going to literally sell children.
We're going to sell other humans.
Dude, we're going to make a ton of money.
We're going to have tons of blackmail on these politicians.
We're going to be able to control the world because we've morality hacked.
We're not bound by any freaking rules.
We can do whatever we want to anyone on this planet.
tim pool
I want to talk about cultural decay.
And we have this story here from the Daily Mail.
Women hikers throw the kitchen sink at gender stereotypes as they climb Scaffold Pike with washing stations attached to their backs in fight for equality.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
Congratulations to Emma Woodhull, April Wilson, and Zena Clark for carrying kitchen sinks On top of a mountain, uh, okay.
I just, I have so much to say about this.
For one, I hope everybody's laughing a lot right now looking at this image of women with sinks strapped to their backs.
I honestly think this reinforces the gender stereotype.
It's like you went hiking, but instead of just hiking, you have brought a sink with you, reinforcing that you are to be around it.
That's a terrible idea.
lauren southern
I really respect it.
You know, it's been difficult for me to figure out how to do shows like this when I have to stay in my kitchen.
As you know, I also under the table have a kitchen sink.
unidentified
Oh, right.
tim pool
Did you finish the dishes yet?
lauren southern
So this is like a really working on it.
tim pool
But so, so here's your feet.
Here's what I see here.
There's a couple big things in this story.
One, people are insane.
And I mean that in kind of a colloquial sense.
There's no logic behind this.
It's a stunt.
They're trying to get attention.
They got it.
The media wrote about it.
It's a good workout too.
ned ryun
It's like a farmer's walk up a mountain.
tim pool
That's true, that's true.
Well, that's a good, that's a positive.
My point is though, why would someone do something so absurd?
clicks, Instagram likes.
They're peacocking.
They're trying to flutter their feathers back.
Notice me!
They're doing nothing to actually target patriarchy or whatever they think is going on.
They're making no cultural change, no political change.
This is the perfect example, in my opinion, of the narcissistic, vapid youth.
I shouldn't say youth, I mean these people are 40.
lauren southern
They're 40?
tim pool
Yeah, this generation that doesn't understand the problem, doesn't have a solution, but stands on top of a pedestal holding a kitchen sink so that people notice them and they can claim they're doing something.
This exemplifies all of it.
lauren southern
Listen, you don't know what it's like to be so attention-starved.
They're dying here.
They're gonna be hospitalized in two weeks if they don't get more clicks.
ian crossland
What is the purpose of their movement here?
What were they doing?
Protesting patriarchy?
tim pool
Is that the vague?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
I think.
Gender stereotypes.
Protesting gender stereotypes by reinforcing them with a kitchen sink.
lydia smith
We are worth more than this?
unidentified
I feel like I should have carried porcelain sinks.
tim pool
It's been 52 years, right, since the start of, I guess, the gender equality stuff, 70, was around the time we started seeing more women enter the workforce.
unidentified
52 years.
tim pool
But no matter how much they win, and they are winning, they're more likely to go to college, less likely to be homeless, millennial women and younger make more money than millennial men, they're still acting like they're the oppressed victims.
lauren southern
Well, to an extent, I do think people hate women now more than ever, but it's their fault.
unidentified
I would say, yeah.
lauren southern
You know, when I was growing up, when we would like banter back and forth, like even when I played a bit of video games when I grew up, the jokes were always like, go make me a sandwich or something.
Now they're like, go die in a hole, you like slur.
Like people, I think the gender dynamics have become so Just escalated because there's so much tension and hatred because we've been so pitched against each other where it's like, oh, I didn't get that job because a woman just got that position because she was a woman.
She got to become the fighter pilot in the military.
She got the professor position.
She got the scholarship, whatever it is.
And now instead of just seeing women as humans, because feminism was like, OK, we're equal.
Now men see them as this like force that's trying to dominate them and it's become really sinister.
It's quite sad.
It's quite sad to see us pitched against each other so much.
lydia smith
I suspect that feminism is a lot like, so I don't really care for unions anymore because they've served their purpose and now they're done.
I think that feminism is exactly the same.
They accomplished what they set out to and we had Richie McGinnis' mom on the show and she was talking about the stuff that, the legitimate struggles that they actually had to get women to have equal rights to men and for the ability to work.
That's great.
That's fine.
We have all that now.
We're done.
We don't need feminists anymore.
I really don't think we do.
And we're doing stuff like strapping sinks to our backs.
Lightweight sinks, for the record, so it's not like they're doing any kind of military drill.
tim pool
They're lightweight?
lydia smith
Yeah, well, they're like... They're not porcelain.
Yeah, they're metal.
ned ryun
They're like aluminum.
lydia smith
I've carried sinks like that before, so they're like aluminum.
Yeah, and it's not a big deal.
ned ryun
It's disappointing, actually.
unidentified
It's just showing.
ned ryun
They didn't commit to it.
lydia smith
Exactly, really didn't.
Yeah, honestly.
ian crossland
Probably smacked the back of their legs while they're walking.
lydia smith
Yeah, no.
Feminism, completely unnecessary.
ian crossland
I'm a little disappointed they wore they wore shoes. I do believe we're intellectual equals men
and women which is important to maintain. What does that mean? That we're
both capable of doing math problems. Like no man or woman coming out of the
womb is gonna be better or worse because of their gender in
intellectual capacity.
lauren southern
Men on average are gonna be better at things like maths but I do think that it's
obviously there are women that can meet and rise to that level.
And I also think it's really taken for granted different types of intelligence like EQ, emotional intelligence.
I do think women tend to have higher emotional intelligence than men.
tim pool
What does that mean though?
lauren southern
Um, like ability to read people, process emotions and social situations.
And these things are studied quite extensively.
So it's important to see averages and differences, but then judge people as individuals.
tim pool
Yeah.
And there's something called the greater male variability hypothesis, which shows that males are more likely to be extremely stupid, but more likely to be extremely smart.
So when you look at the highest and lowest end of the bell curve for male talent, be it math, be it basketball, so here's the issue when it comes to the Fortune 500s.
Of the however many companies that exist in the world, 500 get that top slot, the Fortune 500, the biggest, the best.
So when you have a hundred men and a hundred women, and on the female bell curve, 5% of women are really dumb, 10% are below average, and then you've got 70% average, then 15% slightly above average, and 5%.
My math is way wrong.
But I know what you mean.
10%, 10%, 20, 30, right, 70 in the middle.
So the issue for men is that you're going to have 50% in the middle, way more dumb people, but way more smart people.
So if you have, uh, out of a hundred guys, 10 in the highest end of the bell curve, and then out of the women, five in the highest end of the bell curve.
And even then the highest high point is male.
Now do a top 10 ranking in ability to run a business.
And guess what's going to happen.
You're going to have nine dudes in one chick.
Or not even that.
There are 10 guys and all have been competing against them.
All the women may lose.
That's not anomalous.
You only got 15 people competing.
In all likelihood, the top eight slots will be men and then two will be women.
And people say, how does that make sense?
There's 50 men, you know, 50, 100 men and 100 women should be equal.
Shouldn't it?
No.
Because you will also have substantially more really, really dumb men.
This is why I think so many women think guys are dumb.
Because there's a whole lot of really dumb guys.
ian crossland
Relative to women equals not is a very vague term in that it doesn't mean the same doesn't mean we're the same.
And I think in the past, the extremes have dictated the generalizations like okay, eight out of 10 CEOs are men, therefore men make better CEOs, but that's not, you know, across the board.
lauren southern
I think you need to make space for the women who are good at that, because there are women that are not going to be the norm.
They're not going to want to be mothers.
They're going to want to pursue careers.
They're going to find that really, really fulfilling, and you need to make space for that.
And as long as there's space for that, you're fine.
What we're doing now, unfortunately, though, is we're trying to force women into a larger space than they even need.
tim pool
Well, I would put it this way.
Luxuries eventually become necessities.
So, cell phones, for instance.
When cell phones first came out, it was a novelty, seeing the guy with that really big phone.
And it's like, if I'm in this one block radius, I can call my work.
Then you got car phones.
And all of a sudden now, it was a luxury.
You had the opportunity to make a call from your vehicle.
Most people still operated under, you call me when I'm at the office or at home.
When cell phones became ubiquitous, all of a sudden now you got two workers.
One with a cell phone, one without.
Who's getting hired?
Oh, dude, the cell phone, hands down.
I can call you at any time.
I can get answers to questions.
Hire the person with the cell phone.
That luxury became a necessity, and now you're not going to get hired if you don't have one.
Women entering the workforce.
It started out as women who want to work can work.
No one's saying they shouldn't.
You know, we're changing things.
And then once women started entering the workforce, you now had dual income households competing against single income households.
And so all of a sudden you have a business that says, listen, We've got a dual-income household.
They can take the job for $30,000 a year, you know, because the husband and wife are both working.
Sorry, I know you have a family, but you need too much money.
I'm gonna hire the woman.
Now you've got double the workforce overnight without a doubling of the work supply, and then you see suppression of wages, you see collapse, and eventually then, you come to a point where women have to work.
It started out as, they can if they want to, and now it's, well, you better, otherwise you're broke, because no one can afford it.
lauren southern
Yeah.
ian crossland
I was thinking about what you said about emotional quotient, EQ and IQ being different.
Like, I'll have a conversation with my, when my girlfriend's involved in conversations, like sometimes Tim and I'll get into it and it'll be like, it'll get heightened and it'll get fast and loud.
And she's like, I don't want to be around the tone.
And I'm like, what?
I'm not even thinking about the tone.
I'm thinking about what we're saying.
So to the man, to our brains, it's like the information is, is more important.
But to her, it's like, it's the, the feeling of the situation is altering the way you're producing the information.
lauren southern
And this is the big myth that conservatives often struggle with.
We do the facts don't care about your feelings.
Feelings are more important than facts.
Feelings are way more important.
tim pool
Feelings don't care about your facts.
lauren southern
Yeah, absolutely.
And we need to take that into account.
What makes people motivated to do anything is how they feel.
Anything political.
The only reason they care about the facts is because I love my family and I want to protect my family.
So I'm going to go look into the facts to see what the best ways are to do that.
tim pool
I mean, let's be real.
If your kid, if your child, did something illegal, I think most people would be like, I have to protect my son at all costs.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Like, they know it's wrong, they know it's against the law, and they're like, don't care, my kid's not going to jail.
ned ryun
But that's one of the problems with conservatives.
We go to the head first, not the heart.
Yes.
tim pool
I think it's fascinating.
Ben Shapiro's tweet, while I respect it, you know, facts don't care about your feelings, got like a hundred thousand retweets, goes viral like crazy.
When I saw that, I was just like, yeah, but feelings don't care about your facts.
And I think that's substantially more important to the conversation, albeit it's wrong.
But the issue is, if you go to someone and tell them, like, I don't know, Michael Brown didn't have his hands up, Obama's DOJ came out and said that was not true, they'll just get angry.
Because your facts are meaningless to how they feel about it.
ned ryun
But this is one of the actual principles of the left's organizing.
Appeal to the heart first to put the hands and feet in motion.
tim pool
Yeah.
ned ryun
They figured it out.
Again, appeal to the heart, get people into motion.
Sometimes the facts line up, sometimes they don't, but it doesn't matter.
You've got people motivated in the right direction to do what you want them to do.
ian crossland
I keep thinking about God, like the emotions attached to really believing in that God.
And that's similar to what people in a cult will do.
And I'm talking about people that are in the media cult, whatever you want to call it, on the left or whatever.
It's so emotionally driven because they truly believe in it.
And I know that emotion is there in people on all sides.
tim pool
The issue is they may not believe in it.
And their brain doesn't let them ever even consider it.
They feel physical pain.
It's like what Brandon Strzok told us, that when he was first breaking out of the left and he saw the video of Trump doing the arm thing, it was physically painful to be proven wrong.
So there are a lot of people, they don't, they don't actually believe it.
When you present them with facts and hand them the sheet showing it, they get really angry because they know deep down their brain is telling them this is true, but we cannot accept it.
We cannot.
lauren southern
A lot of them have personal trauma connected to their politics, as most people do.
You know, you look with feminists, and this is something I wish I acknowledged more when I was younger and kind of challenging the feminist movement, is they had bad relationships with their father, a horrible, abusive relationship or whatever, and they're projecting that personal experience onto the broader political discourse because it's easier to deal with something that's far away from you than to really, like, look inward at your own personal pain.
So they'll try to fight it through these larger political battles.
It's the same with Trump.
Trump is just the representation of their Christian parents that were distant and at work all the time and not talking to them and they hate it and they're rejecting and rebelling against it.
And a lot of people had those personal experiences with their family where they grew up in a, you know, Christian conservative household that they're fighting back against.
They had a bad experience with a man or whatever it might be.
And that's their emotional place they're in.
And I think we do as much as they do really stupid stuff and really wreck our society.
We do need to see the left as humans that are just very confused in a lot of ways.
And we do need to reach out to them on an emotional level and try to pull them back from that edge.
I know we don't like humanizing the left, but we have to.
ned ryun
I don't disagree.
I just don't know where you find the middle ground with them.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think... It's in you.
You need to feel it.
ian crossland
If you cry openly out of joy, out of belief, not out of sadness or pain, but like out of truly believing it, people resonate.
tim pool
The middle ground is not in arguments and political discussions because feelings don't care about facts.
The middle ground is in I've brought this up several days now, but we're launching shows at TimCast.com.
I think right now it's like 80% of the content we produce is not political.
The overwhelming majority of it is not political at all.
Because I don't want to go to somebody who is only peripherally involved in politics and very angry and start yelling politics at them.
I want them to be like, hey man, I don't know about all that stuff, why don't you come hang out and we'll tell a ghost story.
We'll sit around the campfire and we'll have marshmallows.
That is so much more attractive to many people.
Now, politics has become pop culture.
The view, talking about Turning Point USA.
There are people who are turning on TV for entertainment and then being bludgeoned over the head with ideology.
My attitude is this, twofold.
One, let's just hang out, have a good time, have pizza, and not talk about that stuff.
Put these people in an environment where they're away from that, and something interesting happens.
When they're dedicating their time to watching sitcoms, or like, you know, we have Tales from the Inverted World, and we're launching a bunch of other shows, They're not in a world of pain anymore.
Now they're gonna look back and they're gonna see people screaming, but Trump, but Trump, and they're gonna go, that made me feel miserable!
Can I just listen to the ghost stories?
Because right now, I'm just interested.
We gotta give them a space that is just not overtly political.
But the other thing is, when we create cool, fun stuff, and we're doing backflips into phone pits, then we're all over here cheering and high-fiving each other and being like, come on, come party and hang out!
We're doing backflips!
Sounds fun.
It's a bouncy castle.
Come hang out.
We don't want to talk about that painful stuff.
It's an escape.
I think that's what we got to do to help people break away from the cult.
lauren southern
Yeah.
So many conservatives have just portrayed themselves as we sit and we read books all day and pray all day.
You know, praying's good.
You should do it.
But we're humans too.
We're scared to show that human side.
tim pool
This is the thing about like Turning Point USA is like, I think they do great work, but they're all suits, you know, like CPAC, TPUSA, these big events.
And I'm like, Grow your hair out.
No, look, man.
ian crossland
It's connected to your nervous system.
tim pool
There's a certain kind of person that idealizes facts don't care about your feelings.
It's correct.
Facts matter more than how you feel about them, in my opinion.
But politically, feelings matter more to the average person.
So my attitude is just like, where is the space for people who are sick and tired of the woke cult who just want to watch some guy do a backflip?
ned ryun
Escapism.
tim pool
Just relax.
You know, escapism.
Here's what happened.
I'll tell you this.
We're working on a video game.
We showed you guys the video game earlier today.
We're working on a video game out here.
And it's because I'm like, people want to play a video game and what happens?
All of a sudden it's wokeness.
They make Battlefield or what was it called?
Was it Battlefield?
Where the woman had like purple hair and like a prosthetic or something and everyone's like, what?
What is going on?
Every movie's got to be some political message.
Every show's got to be political.
As much as I'm a fan of the show The Boys, it's just, come on, stop hitting me over the head with this stuff.
Does every show have to be like this?
Resident Evil, it's like, come on.
unidentified
I don't think it's escapism.
lauren southern
When people want to, like, I like off-roading.
I like going out shooting, swimming every other day.
I don't think any of that's escapism.
I think that's how humans are supposed to live.
Life is lived in the in-between.
We're not supposed to be thinking about politics every second.
We're supposed to be actually spending time with friends, family, and it's okay for people who are political personalities to go out and show that side of themselves to say, actually, This is what's important to me and this is how I want you to be living.
That's why I care about politics.
So you don't have to worry about the government infringing on your ability to do these things and actually live your life with your families.
So we have to care about politics, but it's not what we're supposed to be doing 24-7.
tim pool
Agreed.
ian crossland
I think about like the universe and consciousness and like Sometimes people are like, oh, he's a psychedelic tripster.
Think, you know, wasting.
lauren southern
Yeah, get out of here.
ian crossland
But like, it's self preservation and the preservation of our species, because every 20,000 years, this planet gets hit by comets, you know, or however, 40,000 years, everything's reset, everybody's wiped out.
So we need to get off this planet, if we want to keep having conversations about politics.
And that's I'm a big advocate of communicating about politics about social structure, but we have got to focus on science.
tim pool
You create a space where, like, you know, TimCast has a news outlet as well, right?
But we've been investing heavily in Tales from the Inverted World, and I will just tell everybody, for those that are interested in knowing, the click-through rates, the cost-per-click, all that stuff has been ridiculous.
Like, so we're doing ads.
This is Shane Cashman.
He went down to Georgia investigating lost Confederate gold.
It is only political in that sense of the history, but for the most part it's just his
journey meeting witches, UFOs, someone threatening to kill him because he's trying to find this
gold.
It is just outside of the realm of modern political culture war stuff.
And the click-through rate is like double or triple what we see in other ads.
We've only recently started doing ad stuff.
And I'm like, this is good news.
Regular people, when you go on Facebook, you see them inundated with memes about politics,
anger and hatred.
And it's like, let's promote this and pull them out of that space and then allow that kind of hatred to evaporate for a little bit.
But here's the best part.
TimCast.com has a news section with true facts.
So if they're doing nothing but watching MSNBC and getting wrapped into it, we pull them out and offer them a space to just relax and watch ghost stories or sitcoms or Chicken City.
And then if they end up seeing the news, the news is neutral, straightforward, and fact-driven.
ian crossland
What do you do when you're not involved thinking about politics?
What are your main focuses?
ned ryun
Hunting.
ian crossland
Oh, what kind of stuff?
What's your hunting style like?
ned ryun
Deer.
I'll do everything.
Crossbow, muzzleloader, regular.
tim pool
We got deer out here like crazy.
Every night when I go back down, there's a bunch of deer in my lawn.
ned ryun
Brother-in-law and I, actually my son, we hunt.
We'll do the knock him down the woods, field dress him, bring him in, we process him in the barn.
tim pool
What do you, so when you get a deer, like, do you make a bunch of different kinds of meat?
Do you make like jerky, salami?
ned ryun
I usually, my brother-in-law, awesome.
He literally will process almost everything on the deer.
Either, you know, give the ribs to the dogs.
tim pool
You eat the marrow?
ned ryun
I don't.
tim pool
I don't.
ned ryun
I literally take the back strap, I take the inner tenderloins, I take the rumps, and I typically make those into either a stew, or I'll do biltong, or I'll do jerky.
tim pool
How's deer tenderloin?
ned ryun
It's a South African form of jerky.
It's really good.
tim pool
Deer tenderloin.
Is that similar in any way to like standard cow?
ned ryun
I mean, the inner tenderloin is the best part of a deer and I soak it in whiskey, garlic, salt and pepper overnight.
I beat it out and then I fry it with some fresh eggs from our chickens.
tim pool
That sounds amazing.
ned ryun
And you do it right.
It's superb.
tim pool
I had a friend who brought me to this dude's house once and they did a full process.
They had every kind of like meat you could make from a deer.
So it was like a big platter.
ned ryun
We have done, my brother-in-law was like, we've got to do some sausage.
So we did, you know, half of it is sausage, half is venison.
And then we did jalapeno and we did cheddar.
Amazing.
ian crossland
Stuffed you stuff.
ned ryun
Yeah, we stuffed our own sausage.
You know, you come through the intestines.
Yeah.
lauren southern
I like your answer to his question.
You're like trying to find what's your like non political chill thing?
You're like, Oh, yeah, when I'm not destroying leftists, I'm shooting.
unidentified
What about turkeys?
ned ryun
Turkeys are terrible.
Have you ever eaten any wild turkey?
unidentified
Nope.
ned ryun
They're awful.
tim pool
Not wild.
ian crossland
What's bad about it?
ned ryun
Well, they're extremely lean meat.
And I probably screwed up on how I prepared it.
I've heard people that you just gotta slow cook it like crazy to get it to where it's edible.
What else do I do when I'm not shooting things or destroying lettuce?
I'm actually big into horticulture.
I've got my orchards.
ian crossland
Orchards?
What are you growing?
ned ryun
Peaches, apples, cherries.
Got a raised bed with blueberries.
tim pool
What percentage of your diet would you say comes from your own production?
ned ryun
Not enough.
I mean, I want to get to the point where, I don't know, during deer season, no, not half.
We've got the eggs, we've got some venison.
The only problem is there's not many people in the household that love venison, so it's like... Yeah, well, you eat what you eat, you know what I mean?
tim pool
We brought your deer back, time to eat it.
unidentified
Yeah, we do.
ned ryun
I mean, part of the other raised bed is like a jalapeno, tomato, poblano peppers.
We're doing salsa garden.
lauren southern
You gotta stop describing food.
unidentified
We do have fun.
ned ryun
I do other things outside of politics and it's actually, I mean, it does actually, like, you get away from it and you become a full, you fully realize, you know, all aspects of your humanness.
tim pool
I think people listening, especially now, should start figuring out how to create a larger percentage of their own calories.
ned ryun
I totally agree.
tim pool
Yeah.
ned ryun
No, this is one of the things I'm trying to figure out.
We've got 30 some acres, 21 of it's forest, and we're trying to figure out how can I make the other 10 acres or so productive and what can I do with those?
tim pool
We've got too many eggs here because we now have like 30 chickens and the new ones are starting to lay.
ned ryun
My wife is a chicken lady.
tim pool
We are going to have, like, 25 eggs per day.
ian crossland
What do you do with them when you have so many?
tim pool
We're giving them to people.
unidentified
Oh, that's good.
ned ryun
We had the same situation.
We've had a raccoon fox situation, so we don't have that many eggs these days.
tim pool
We had a raccoon problem, but that was taken care of.
ian crossland
What's more dangerous, the fox or the raccoon?
ned ryun
So here's how it works.
The raccoons just pick them off one by one, usually.
tim pool
They just murder them, right?
They don't even eat them.
ned ryun
They suck the blood out of them.
They're literally vampires.
The foxes will come in, and it's a massacre in like 10 minutes.
ian crossland
Oh, because they're having fun.
ned ryun
They're just killing them.
Killing, killing, killing, and they'll drag a couple off, eat them, but there's just... I went down one time.
It was probably, I don't know, 3 or 3.30 in the afternoon.
Everybody was fine.
Had to go back up to the house.
The barn's maybe, I don't know, 100 yards below the house.
Went up back to the house, did some stuff, came back.
I'm not kidding.
30, 40 minutes later, like 15 of them were dead.
unidentified
Wow.
ned ryun
Foxes just come and nailed them all.
I don't think I was able to kill that one.
lauren southern
Have you ever shot the foxes that come?
ned ryun
I have, yeah.
One of them got away, partly because the neighbors have horses and it was not a clear shot, so I held back, which is the right thing to do.
But the other one I shot, and then...
There've been some raccoons.
lauren southern
Shooting your neighbor's horse.
ned ryun
Yeah, no, that would be all fine.
ian crossland
Raccoons are nasty.
ned ryun
They are nasty.
Two barrels of a 12-gauge takes care of them.
tim pool
We got a raccoon problem.
We set up a trap.
We took care of one of them.
What's worrying is that we have dogs, and they're still coming around, which they shouldn't be because our open area right now of the chickens is not particularly large, but I saw a fox.
So we have a cat.
His name is Bucko.
And I'm recording one day, this is a couple months ago, and he's sitting in the middle, in the field, and from my studio I can see the whole backyard.
I can see the chickens, got a really wide view.
And I see him sitting in the middle of the field in a loaf, like cats do, when a very gaunt-looking fox starts creeping out of the brush and slowly moving towards him.
And my cat, being dumb, just stood there staring, and then I was like, I'm in the middle of recording a segment, like 15 minutes in, so that's nearly done for my morning segment, and I stopped.
I got up and I ran outside and started yelling, and the fox did not run, and I had to jump over the fence, or jump over the railing and run down, and the fox took off.
Uh, I'm worried the fox was starving.
That's why it was coming onto the property, fearless of the dog, and going after my cat.
And my cat's too stupid to run away from it.
Just sat there.
ian crossland
That cat was gonna rip his face up.
tim pool
No, that fox was probably gonna eat that cat.
And then when the fox ran off, cat just looks at me and then just looks back at the woods and just doesn't even blink.
ned ryun
Do you have coyotes out here?
tim pool
I don't know.
We have coyotes.
ned ryun
Well, so there's, there's been a crossbreed that's developed between wolves and coyotes.
They're called coyowolves.
We have them on our property.
I haven't heard them recently.
ian crossland
What are they like?
ned ryun
They look like small wolves.
They don't look, I mean, we had a ton of, I grew up in Kansas.
We had a ton of coyotes, very like obvious coyotes.
These coyotes wolves look like small wolves.
ian crossland
Are they vicious like, like wolves?
ned ryun
Yeah.
I mean, they're pretty aggressive.
I'll go through the forest.
I haven't seen anything recently, but you'll go through and it's, it's literally like a pack of them hit a deer and there's parts everywhere.
ian crossland
I've been thinking lately, are raccoons a kind of animal that we would be better off wiping out, like making extinct?
Or do they do any value to the system?
ned ryun
Trash pandas?
lauren southern
They're kind of cute.
unidentified
No.
lauren southern
Have you guys ever seen that video of the guy's dog being attacked by a raccoon and he's like above a stairwell and he grabs the raccoon and just like flips it around and throws it down the stairs and all you see are these little glowing eyes disappearing into the abyss?
No.
unidentified
No?
lauren southern
Okay, it's a great video.
You gotta find that one.
tim pool
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All right, we got a whole bunch of super chats saying, audio, buzz, audio, audio.
You're good now.
All right, let's see.
John R says, the accounting firm that prepares my taxes wants me to sign a document stating that I'm not a Russian citizen, Russian national, nor do I currently reside in Russia.
And if my status changes to let them know immediately, WTF?
Yo, what?
That's really weird.
unidentified
Huh.
Hmm.
ned ryun
Hmm.
tim pool
J.A.
says, Can't believe you haven't mentioned Ripaverse Comics yet, Tim.
We've mentioned it several times.
We talked about it yesterday.
PayPal froze Eric July's account or whatever.
Like a good portion of it.
ian crossland
I wonder what the status of that is.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Alright, let's see.
Ian Hall says, Jeremy is a legend.
I loved that ad placement.
Shill for coffee brand coffee.
So another free ad spot, Mr. Quartering.
For people that didn't get the ad at the beginning of the show, an ad played for Jeremy's coffee.
ian crossland
It's specifically tailored to Tim, too.
He's like, hey guys, about to watch TimCast.
Buy my coffee.
All right.
Have fun watching Tim.
See you later.
And then it goes to Tim.
tim pool
I didn't know you could still do that.
ian crossland
That's awesome.
tim pool
I knew that you used to be able to run ads specifically on one video.
I didn't know you could still do it.
But yeah, he's like, before you watch Tim's video, go buy my coffee.
And then my attitude is like, thank you for the money, Jeremy.
This show is sponsored by The Quartering, apparently, and Coffee Brand Coffee.
Although the funny thing is Jeremy could just reach out and be like, hey, how much for an ad spot?
I guess.
And I think it's cheaper, actually, when we do it direct.
Because YouTube takes a huge cut, you know?
But then he'd get the full viewership.
How about that, Coffee Brand Coffee?
You know what?
We're gonna open our own coffee business!
No, probably not.
Maybe a coffee house that serves Coffee Brand Coffee.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's grab some Super Chats.
What is this?
Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr.
says, I'm angry, Tim.
So mad at capitalism, the healthy white cis males.
I'm so... UT?
Oh, no.
Dang it.
I just ished my pants.
That's it.
I'm joining Antifa.
So that was a segment I did earlier.
There was this Antifa woman who was arrested on suspicion of rioting and felony assault.
She had previously wrote about how she has long COVID and it caused her to crap her pants.
And then I was like, look, I know a lot of people see that and they probably laugh when they hear that story, but my attitude is like, imagine you're like, poor.
You know, a lot of people probably are.
And then one day you're at work and poop just comes out of your butt and you can't control it.
You're going to be really, really angry, but who can you be mad at?
So what happens is these people have this pent-up rage from their lives they can't control.
Then someone comes along and says, I know who's causing all your problems.
It's Dave Chappelle.
This is probably why these people go out and protest nonsensical things.
And it's not just because this woman pooped her pants, but it's a really good example.
Look at this.
Everyone's making fun of her now.
They're all laughing.
Imagine what that person's feeling.
Knowing that this is your life, now you gotta wear diapers.
You're in the middle of work and you've got poop all over your butt.
You have to work through that.
Who do you get mad at?
ian crossland
Whoever fed you that gum?
Nah, it's yourself.
You can only be mad at yourself.
tim pool
Well, it was long COVID.
Are you mad at the virus?
The Chinese.
lauren southern
How could they do this to me?
tim pool
Someone comes along and says, you should have universal health care.
And the reason you don't is because of these bigots and transphobes in the far right.
And then they say, okay, that's why I can be mad at somebody because I'm mad.
And they give them a target to be mad at.
That's what happens.
And I think the poop story makes it very, very apparent.
Because without something so overt, you don't know about their trauma, their relationships with their fathers or whatever.
All you see is some person, you're like, what are you mad about?
It's like, well, maybe they're mad about something they have no one to be mad at.
So this story exemplifies that, in my opinion.
I mean, you'd be mad too.
lauren southern
Your point is profound, but the context of it just makes it impossible to listen.
tim pool
Well, the context is on purpose, right?
Because it makes people, you know.
ian crossland
Yeah, I searched to poop their pants.
I would advise everyone.
lauren southern
I'm like 10.
tim pool
Why am I Waffles Sensei says, I had an epiphany last night.
Ian, I believe in the graphene now.
The process you speak of in separating the carbon out of the chemicals in the air.
You're literally talking about mimicking the process of the trees and plants.
It's genius innovation.
ian crossland
Hell yes.
You know, we can pull the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and the methane and then deposit it onto palladium or probably other metals and then take the carbon out.
So you essentially mine the air for carbon dioxide.
So how are we doing that?
Australian scientists have been doing it so we can start to mimic the process.
I want to bring it to the political sphere and get the government involved so we can start funding research and development and start selling this stuff.
Are you familiar with graphene?
ned ryun
No, I'm not really familiar.
unidentified
It sounds like trees on steroids.
tim pool
It's a single atomic layer of carbon in a hexagonally lattice, and it's a wonder material.
So maybe we'll see some more in the future.
ian crossland
It's a 21st century building material like steel.
It's conductive and capacitative like batteries.
tim pool
Let's read some Super Chats.
Jamie Nunyabiz says the J6 trials will help because of the absurdity of the content and how specific people like Ray Epps not getting any charges but also labeled as a victim.
Agreed.
You see, they included me in it.
Jamie Raskin put a video of me in it.
ned ryun
Oh, he did?
tim pool
It was me reading a news article.
And they edited it in such a way to make it seem like I was telling people to go to DC.
Yeah.
Total fabrication.
This is why I'm saying, like, I think the country is on the verge of imploding.
When you've got sitting members of Congress smearing and defaming and just trying to destroy for no other reason than to destroy, I'm like, how long can this thing last?
Now, I'm not saying people will die and like, you know, some people might in conflict.
We've seen that already.
What I'm saying is it's just going to get more tumultuous.
Whatever that means.
I don't know.
Get some chickens and get out of the cities, I guess.
lauren southern
Yep.
ned ryun
Yep.
tim pool
Alright, SSPenguin says, Hello Timcast crew, I just wanted to say I love you all, and if you ever want to add to Chicken City, may I humbly suggest ducks?
They're hilarious.
They are!
I was told that they have to be raised together though.
lauren southern
Can I bring you a Canadian goose?
ned ryun
No.
tim pool
Aren't they called Canada goose?
lauren southern
Sure.
You know what I'm talking about.
Can you bring one and like put it in the mix?
tim pool
I don't think that's legal because they're migratory birds.
The thing about ducks is there's like domestic ducks on farms for duck eggs.
Duck eggs are crazy.
You have duck eggs?
ned ryun
No, I don't.
We had four.
tim pool
More protein?
ned ryun
Yeah.
tim pool
Bigger?
ned ryun
Fox hit them.
ian crossland
All of them?
ned ryun
All of them.
ian crossland
Were they out in the open?
ned ryun
Yeah.
Bam.
Gone.
I think we got a couple eggs out of him.
tim pool
Alright, Doug Ripley says, Great guests this week, all looking out for We The People.
Zuby helps people think for themselves, Whitaker made meaningful moves as acting AG, Ned provides much needed grassroots vision, and Lauren putting out fearless exposés, her latest is her best yet.
lauren southern
Cheers, thank you!
tim pool
There you go.
It was worth all of that expense.
lauren southern
Nothing bad to say about Tim.
He's the only one that didn't F with anyone.
tim pool
I don't know, people were saying that.
They were like, Lauren put out this video of like, the truth.
And then they were like, she actually said some nice things about you.
lauren southern
Yeah, you were like, I know there were there were a few really good people, but of the people that like got massive platforms, which you have, you've built up something big.
I never saw you once, screw anyone over.
And we were hanging out, you know, way back in the day, 2016, going to riots in France.
You remember all that?
Yeah, and you always just were a damn hard worker, not to simp or anything, I'm sure.
tim pool
You know, the most brutal thing ever is like, We do so, we try to do so well by everybody who works at Timcast, and then the people who just knife us in the back, it's really disheartening.
And I can certainly understand why Bill Gates is just like, there's too many people!
ian crossland
And why people don't start companies.
It's a lot.
Absolutely.
Getting money involved with relationships is a totally other dynamic.
tim pool
Dude, people are evil.
You learn some, but I'm not kidding.
ned ryun
Are you saying there's fallen nature?
tim pool
So I'll tell you this, as the story goes man, you hear these stories about people winning the lottery and then all of a sudden their families get torn apart.
It's crazy stuff.
But I tell you this, running a successful business, you'll be surprised who in your life is truly a friend and who isn't when you come into success.
All of a sudden people you thought you knew your whole life are doing everything in their power to destroy you for no reason.
There are people that I've known since I was a teenager that immediately took to the internet and started trying to hit up every journalist.
People I was, like, some of my best friends.
And then I'm just like, I'm hitting them up.
I'm like, bro, did I do something?
And they're like, F you.
And I'm like, what the?
lauren southern
There's no more disgusting emotion than jealousy in humans.
It's a really dark emotion.
tim pool
And then I learned that there are people that I didn't like all that much that are like, well, you know what, man?
ian crossland
Good for you, dude.
I get it.
You deserve it.
tim pool
And I'm like, what?
That guy's being nice to me?
Man, I tell ya.
You learn some lessons, man.
ian crossland
So Lauren, your documentary that he's talking about, what was it called?
lauren southern
The Whole Truth.
It's a video just about my time in politics, all my experiences.
It's three hours long.
I'm shocked people even watched it, but it's approaching half a million views.
So it's, uh, yeah.
ian crossland
I saw a couple, two hours on it so far.
I was fascinated.
unidentified
You watched two hours?
Yeah.
ian crossland
I had a lot on the side while I was doing something.
lauren southern
I didn't think people were capable of watching videos that long, so I didn't think.
ian crossland
I like to see into the history of your psychology, of your experience, because I've been watching you from afar until you came on the show.
lauren southern
Yeah, I was an idiot.
ian crossland
I came from a similar background, like a kind of an insulated family life where their parents were really nice.
And like, I still have that like, you know, optimist.
lauren southern
Very naive view of the world.
It's hard, but you can hold on to the optimism.
You just have to get a lot smarter and realize you're not playing with people that are playing with the same set of rules you are.
unidentified
It's brutal, man.
tim pool
It is brutal stuff.
Especially when you learn about the business things, like restrictions, and you wonder why does businesses do things that suck, and then you're like, oh, they're legally required to.
That's the crazy thing.
All right, let's read some more here.
Kromuluz says, just became a member today and decided to watch the previous after show with Matt Whitaker.
What the frick?
P.S.
That was very funny.
Yeah, yeah, that member show last night was particularly spicy, and I was like, am I gonna get in trouble?
We won't repeat it, but maybe we'll mention it on the next episode.
No, you can watch that one.
I don't know.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm really tired of so much of the B.S.
and the lies and the manipulation from the media.
So, you know, we kind of just got a little spicy as it is what it is.
All right.
Club Rico TV says Trump will be blamed and demonized for what is coming.
And he says some stuff that we can't read on YouTube, but he says this is a damn strategy.
Trump and Musk will be blamed.
But, you know, I hear what you're saying, my friend.
I don't think that's a revelation, though, to be honest.
I think everyone expects Trump to take the fall for everything.
If Trump wins, the media will just claim anything and everything bad is his fault.
They've even tried doing it with some of Biden's decisions.
unidentified
They did with Bush.
ned ryun
I mean, they've done, this is not just Trump.
They've done this with Bush.
They've done it throughout the- Right.
However many Republican presidents.
It's all their fault.
ian crossland
People are saying they're getting prepared to do it to Biden, too, that they're turning on him.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
There was some New York Times writer that just said- Bret Stephens said he should announce he's not running for re-election now.
ian crossland
That's it.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Clef the Misfit says, Tim, the president and VP candidates not being able to be from the same state is not a relic.
It's part of the 12th amendment to the constitution.
Also, Trump is a liability in every way.
DeSantis 2024.
I hear you, man, on that.
I do.
I do.
The thing is, like, I like that Trump said he's going to fire everybody.
And so I'm kind of like Trump, DeSantis, then DeSantis, DeSantis.
ned ryun
Yeah, that's- but I do- knowing what Trump is discussing in his plans, I think day one would be he'll wage war on the administrative state.
I think it has to happen.
You've got to devolve it, you've got to fire.
There's 800,000 non-essential federal employees taking a whack at a couple hundred thousand over four years.
ian crossland
I want to avoid what happened to the Ba'ath Party in Iraq because they like basically fired the entire Ba'ath Party and then they became Well, there's roughly 2 million federal employees.
ned ryun
There's 800,000 that have been deemed non-essential.
You're not talking about firing all 2 million, you're talking about the 800,000 non-essentials.
Hundreds of thousands of them should be fired.
And their roles removed from the federal roles.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got Kenny says, add hydro and aquaponics to your grow.
Back in rural Philippines building my grow.
Chicken, tilapia, vegetables plus rice and mangoes on five acres more than we can eat.
Basic mechanic skills plus solar star link plus Catholic equals win.
I like the, you throw in the Catholic thing there.
Um, I'm sure for a lot of people there's discipline in that.
But, um, I like the aquaponics and hydroponics stuff too.
That's really, really cool.
And then you can do... We've got a pond over at Freedomistan.
We'll throw some fish in there and we're gonna maintain it and get it cleaned up and everything.
Can you eat frogs?
lydia smith
You can if you're French.
tim pool
Do you have to be French?
Why is it cultural appropriation?
lydia smith
Yeah, that's the rule.
tim pool
Toads?
Frogs?
We got their legs for sure.
ian crossland
There's a lot of muscle in their legs.
tim pool
I've not had a frog before.
I've had escargot.
Escargot was amazing.
unidentified
It is.
Yeah.
ned ryun
Wrapped in bacon.
tim pool
Oh man.
ned ryun
And in butter.
tim pool
Garlic oil and you dip it, you take it out.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
It's delicious.
Just like seafood.
ned ryun
I've never done frog legs though.
Me neither.
I don't really have a desire to do frog legs.
unidentified
No, I'm not interested.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
Siridan says corporate tax is just a way to tax the poor.
It doesn't hurt the corporation.
They just raise their prices.
Yeah, yeah.
The idea, though, is to stop companies from jumping ship.
But someone else made it made a good point.
Let me see if we just had this one.
I think I lost the super chat.
Where is it?
Somebody mentioned something about taxes.
Here we go.
Waffle Sensei says, if you implemented a global corporate tax, in fact, it would not be global.
It would be a tax amongst the allies.
Then China would lower their tax and every corporation would flock there.
Yeah, yeah.
Tavnazian says, Lauren, I watched your recent video and I respect your resolve having gone through all that.
Very disappointed to learn these things about people I respected, particularly Milo.
lauren southern
Yeah, a lot of background information.
You haven't watched it yet, Tim, I guess.
No, I haven't.
But, you know, I talk about the white privilege grant being stolen, all that $100,000-some-odd dollars.
tim pool
Did he really steal it?
lauren southern
Yeah, yeah.
It never went to anyone.
So there was like lots of good working-class people's money that just went squandered by a lot of people in this movement, unfortunately.
Of course, I believe people have redemption and can change and everything, but there has to be some demonstrable display of that, right?
tim pool
Well, when people sign up at TimCast.com to be members, That money is not wasted!
this business, I take out 96 foot tall billboards of my rooster.
ian crossland
Folders closure.
lauren southern
That money is not wasted.
That goes to important work.
tim pool
You know, the craziest thing was when I tweeted that out, I got a thousand
retweets and people were like, okay, that's it.
I'm subscribing.
I was like, that was the one that did it for you.
Like, we'll keep doing that.
So, full disclosure, I mean, I mean this literally legitimately.
I contacted our ad agency and said, I want to run a Times Square billboard that says Twitter is protecting pedophiles.
And they were like, okay, just send it to us and we'll see if they approve it.
And I was like, for real?
And they were like, here's how much it costs.
And I was like, all right.
And that phrase was rejected.
The billboard, the people, the landlord or whatever, they were like, no.
And then I said, tell me why so we can craft the ad.
And I'm thinking maybe it'll say Twitter is protecting groomers.
Something like that.
And they may approve that, but we're doing it.
Like, this is what it's all about.
It's remarkable to me that we have this business, we're successful, we're growing, we obviously have our standard marketing, but we're here to make an impact and do things and hold people to account.
So when Twitter is actively engaging in bad behavior and harming us, I'm like, well, let's make a statement and show them that we're willing to stand up and push back on this trash.
Where is anyone else?
You know, the crazy thing is, We are not the most successful or wealthiest people.
In fact, car dealerships make more money than us.
Surprised to learn that was true, but car dealerships make a lot of money in services.
And I'm like, where is any one person just to be like, yeah, we see it sometimes.
But you've got all these ultra-wealthy individuals.
Why don't they just have a good time of it and just be like, okay, we're gonna get 10 billboards across this city that just say this thing, you know, and just call out people.
We are going to hire a bunch of, you know, people to put on a performance in the city and generate press and attention.
I just wonder why everything's so boring and routine.
Why is it every billboard's always some ad for just some, you know, aspirin?
Why is it Times Square is like the new clothes and the new TV show?
I'm like, where is the giant rooster?
Where is the calling out Twitter for bad behavior?
Where is anything to just shake things up?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, we're gonna do that for sure.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
Alright!
Martin Campbell says, finally caught you guys live.
Y'all are building something great.
Keep it going.
I really do appreciate it.
Not only do we have a billboard, a 96 foot tall billboard of the rooster, but they're mirrored billboards.
So on the other side is the animated version of Roberto screaming into the sky, and then the anime version teleporting.
Because it's funny.
lauren southern
Because you can.
tim pool
Because we can.
But I think it's funny.
I think we need irreverence.
We need... We need... I mean, everything's so stagnant and boring and cultured.
lauren southern
Well, when the system is a joke, you have to laugh at it.
unidentified
That's true.
lauren southern
You have to make that laughing loud and seen.
tim pool
Destination Thailand says, you really need to get Lauren Southern, Adrienne Curry, and Amanda Milius on the show at the same time.
That is a recipe for crazy conversation.
lauren southern
Ooh, I would love that.
I'd love to talk to Amanda Milius in particular.
We've got some ideas to discuss.
Amanda, call me.
tim pool
Well, that'd be great.
Yeah, absolutely.
Amanda, come back on the show.
Adrianne, however, doesn't like to leave the mountain, but she hangs out in the chat and she has a standing invite always to come back and hang out because we're big fans.
lydia smith
Yeah, and she got sick, so.
ian crossland
Oh no.
lydia smith
Yeah, I felt really bad because she doesn't like to leave her mountain and we also got, or she got sick in the airport.
I'm so sorry, please forgive me.
ian crossland
It's good for your immune system, Adrianne.
lydia smith
Yeah, true, true.
tim pool
St.
Miles says, here's a super chat to get Lauren a special glass to be kept on the set when she comes on Timcast IRL.
ned ryun
Engraved.
lauren southern
No, listen, I am sticking to my working class culture with the paper cup.
tim pool
We are going to get a mock high quality paper cup.
So it looks like a paper cup, but it's also super elitist and expensive.
lauren southern
All right.
I can do that.
I can do that.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Porcelain or some other, can you do porcelain?
Is that, is it ridiculous?
ian crossland
A porcelain cup?
That'd be great.
Laser engraved.
Yeah.
Southern zone.
tim pool
What's like, what about a gold, a gold chalice?
ian crossland
Well, now we're talking.
That'd be nice in your hand.
It'll feel warm.
It's a good conductor of heat, you know?
tim pool
F the Magician says, when Trump said lock her up, it was for specific crimes.
Her illegal servers and destroying evidence when subpoenaed.
It wasn't weaponization of law, it was enforcing laws political class was above.
Agreed.
Seriously?
ian crossland
Uh, yeah, but while you're... I don't know, not while you're... Not during the debate.
I mean, the first time I've ever seen it during a debate.
Threatening that you're gonna arrest your opponent.
tim pool
Perhaps.
Alright, let's see what we got.
unidentified
Or maybe it's just equal application of the law.
tim pool
Michelle J says, Lauren, you and Malice were joking back and forth about your license last time.
I made assumptions, and I legit told my husband you were a gorgeous trans.
lauren southern
Oh, am I a man?
That's for me to know, and the Canadian government to decide.
That's right.
tim pool
MiniStrangeCork says, Tim, pick a random member to send the empty Pappy bottles to.
Love you, Lord.
Yeah, we actually have a whole bunch of Pappy bottles, because we don't, you know, we keep them, so we could.
Also, you know, we have a bunch of Confederate money.
I went to a collector's shop, and Confederate money was worthless up until recently, because there's tons of it everywhere in, like, huge crates.
It's just paper.
ned ryun
Yeah.
tim pool
But as it gets older and older and older, People are starting to choose to collect it.
So now it's actually becoming more and more valuable.
I went to a shop and I bought a bunch.
What we're thinking of doing is we're trying to figure out a way to do a giveaway for the new season of Tales for the Inverted World, Ghosts of the Civil War, where we do something where certain members will get, you'll be able to like, will enter a contest when you sign up and you will, and certain people will get mailed literal Confederate money as like a prize and like a special thank you for being a member.
We're trying to figure out how to do that.
We haven't set it up yet, but that's an idea that we may actually do very soon.
CatawthSwiss says we miss Mary the Friendly Ghost.
Mary is not here tonight.
Lauren Southern is instead.
lauren southern
Who is Mary the Friendly Ghost?
tim pool
She's the co-host of Pop Culture Crisis.
And she just has bleach hair and she's pale.
So they call her Ghost Girl.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
lauren southern
Yeah, I saw a bunch of people in the chat.
They're like, bring back Ghost Girl.
Get rid of this stupid Canadian.
We want Ghost Girl.
I'm like, all right, sorry.
I'll come back with bleach hair.
Chill.
tim pool
Edward Lenovo says, Hey Tim and Lauren, there's a YouTuber called TickHistory.
He's done several videos about the history of socialism, fascism, Nazism, etc.
using actual book sources, references you can look up yourself.
Very detailed.
One is five hours long about Hitler.
Should talk with him.
lauren southern
Actually having sources?
No, sorry.
We don't amplify anyone like that.
Not in the media anyways.
TimCast?
Maybe.
tim pool
Jimmy Rodriguez says, Tim, won't you please cover the proposal by Schumer in the new NDAA?
It looks like gag order subversion of whistleblower protection.
Think lawsuits versus the DOD.
We'll take a look into that.
I haven't heard so much about it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
BigFatCloud45 says, Hey Tim, I listened to the show late.
Truck driver problems, lol.
Maybe idea you should watch Iron Sky and Iron Sky 2.
It shows a lot of today's ideas by people.
Very funny.
Love y'all.
Um, I think I've seen Iron Sky.
That's the one where the Nazis are on the moon.
Is that what that is?
ian crossland
I haven't seen it.
unidentified
I haven't seen it.
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
But there's a sequel.
lauren southern
Iron Sky.
ian crossland
The Coming Race.
Iron Sky, The Coming Race.
tim pool
What is it?
ian crossland
Is it a science fiction comedy film?
tim pool
Yeah, the Nazis on the moon or something.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
I think I watched it.
I think I watched part two.
Was part two where Hitler becomes black?
ian crossland
I am not exaggerating.
Uh, I don't know, but yeah, it has to do with Nazis.
tim pool
Or no, no, no, not Hitler himself.
A Nazi guy.
Cause Hitler is dead.
I'm pretty sure.
In the movie.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Yeah.
The secret military base on the moon.
They want to take over the earth.
tim pool
But it's part two where they make, Oh no, no, no, no.
They make a black guy, a Nazi.
That's what happens.
They kidnap a black guy and they make him white.
ian crossland
It's called Becoming Race.
So yeah, it's probably something to do with race.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
unidentified
I don't know.
lauren southern
Happens to the best of us.
ned ryun
I haven't seen this.
I haven't seen this.
ian crossland
Iron Sky.
tim pool
Ridiculous movie, but you know, it is what it is.
ian crossland
It's got it looks like Star Wars when you look at that.
So many posters look like Star Wars.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some super chats.
Patriot says, looking at those hiking ladies, you could say, see honey, you can do things and still keep up with your housework.
That's my point!
Carrying the kitchen sink was actually reinforcing the stereotype.
Just hiking is what opposes the stereotype, I guess.
Or they could have been juggling swords.
lauren southern
Gotta keep fit for their husbands.
tim pool
Yeah, actually, that would be a perfect gag about a woman training to be a better housewife.
So she, like, straps a kitchen sink on her back and like- Mixing bowl and hand.
Right, yeah.
lauren southern
She's doing dishes, like, waking up.
tim pool
That would be the joke.
ned ryun
Knitting, as she would.
Yeah, whatever.
tim pool
Deadfoot says, in our local D&D campaign, there was a potion thrower that was outside of our range.
I was all out of spell slots, so I used Mage Hand to catch the potions to pocket.
The DM allowed it.
Good call in y'all's eyes.
Love the show.
ian crossland
Did he make you roll a DC check on that?
Because those potions are flying, man.
You must have great reflexes.
lauren southern
I heard you guys played Magic the Gathering with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Have you guys ever...
tim pool
Secret.
lauren southern
Oh, did you?
Sorry, I'm not good at secrets.
Have you guys ever played Dungeons & Dragons on the show?
tim pool
Nope.
lauren southern
You should.
ian crossland
Not on the show.
tim pool
We actually were working on a Dungeons & Dragons show itself, but we just... Not enough Dungeons & Dragons players, to be honest.
unidentified
Everyone's still pretty new to the game, so... I played Pathfinders growing up, so I could join.
tim pool
I was saying, I think we should do the Democrat war games.
You know, they did that fake, they did their own version in 2020.
Yeah, it was, it was D&D.
They played D&D, but it was the election and they're like rolling die to see like, all right, I'm going to try it.
I'm going to run an ad to convince more voters and like roll die.
Like, ah, the ad failed.
Roll initiative.
Yeah, roll initiative.
ian crossland
She jumps over the desk.
tim pool
I think it was probably more boring than that.
It was like, I'm going to go to Iowa and try and caucus better.
I failed.
ian crossland
You succeed, yeah.
You enjoy your eggs.
Roll a die.
lauren southern
Do you know what D&D is, Ned?
ned ryun
Dungeons and Dragons?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Have you played?
unidentified
No.
ned ryun
I was like, wait, yeah, Dungeons and Dragons.
lauren southern
Ned is like, you losers.
ned ryun
I've never played.
ian crossland
Do you get into magic?
ned ryun
No.
lauren southern
Is that for losers?
ned ryun
No, it's not.
I was raised in a very conservative home and we didn't do that.
ian crossland
I had a buddy that he went to church camp and when he came back he was like, it's demonic and he burned all his D&D books.
lauren southern
I wasn't allowed to play Pokemon growing up because my parents were like, you're summoning demons.
unidentified
Yeah, we didn't do that.
ned ryun
We just never did it.
ian crossland
D&D is great.
Well, it's more about the community and having fun and creating a story with friends, like acting.
tim pool
All right, we got Fishon L Flip says, Timcast, would you have Eric July on?
PayPal is screwing people who paid for his new comic book.
We would have him on.
We've had him on before.
We'll absolutely have him on again.
Let's have him on.
We can talk about this.
lydia smith
I immediately extended an invite to him.
Haven't heard back from him yet.
tim pool
I want everyone to understand that at TimCast.com, we no longer use PayPal.
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We gotta win this culture war in multiple ways.
One, on the policy front.
That's short term, you gotta get it done now.
Judges was actually really smart on the part of the Republicans.
There's gotta be culture, and there's gotta be economics.
And so we're trying to get everything.
We're making a bunch of shows, but we're also making sure our infrastructure is supporting alternate economic systems.
So we use Rumble infrastructure, we use Parallel Economy for payment processing, And the website itself is another form of this.
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Smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show.
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Ned, do you want to shout anything out?
ned ryun
Uh, if you're interested in more, follow me on Twitter.
I have a lot of fun on Twitter.
lydia smith
Good Twitter.
ned ryun
Yeah.
Ned Ryan.
And it's R-Y-U-N.
tim pool
You got a book?
ned ryun
Uh, I've got books.
Adversary is my most recent one.
It's Battle of, uh, Boston and Bunker Hills.
Last 10 months before the Battle of Bunker Hills.
Kind of fascinating of, of all the different dynamics between the colonists and the British empire.
Uh, also Restoring Our Republic is another book I've got.
You can find them on Amazon and AmericanMajority.org.
That's my website.
tim pool
Right on.
lauren southern
You can find me on Twitter at Lauren underscore Southern YouTube, or you can watch my latest The Whole Truth video if you've got three hours and sites like Odyssey.
Yeah, just my name.
tim pool
And we've got Lauren here for the rest of the week.
lauren southern
I'm gonna be hanging out.
Apparently I'm doing skits.
I have no idea what it's a surprise.
I'm a surprise actress now.
ian crossland
Nice work.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Follow me at iancrossland.net and on social media at iancrossland.
And I want to give a special shout out to Leila and Serena, big fans of Chicken City.
You guys rock.
You love chicken, Ian.
I love them too.
And I saw your drawings and they're fantastic.
Thank you so much for being fans and watching the show and you're going to do great things.
I can feel it.
See you later.
lydia smith
And this is very important to me.
I wanted to mention it before I leave.
It turns out the typical hiking backpack is about 30 pounds and a metal sink is between 25 and 50.
So either they were building a little muscle or it's actually less than the typical hiking backpack.
ned ryun
Should have been porcelain.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
Either way, not a huge win for them.
Not exactly sticking it to the patriarchy.
tim pool
I think they had backpacks too, to be fair.
unidentified
Oh, I don't know.
lydia smith
Yeah, I was looking at it.
I was like, I can't see them.
So I don't know.
Good for them if they were carrying extra weight.
Anyway, after that aside, you guys may follow me on twitterandminds.com as well as sarahpetchlitz.me.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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