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July 15, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Alex Stein Discusses Calling AOC A Big Booty Latina, AOC Implying 1/6 Was Inside Job
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alex stein
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ian crossland
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tim pool
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tim pool
It's a Friday night.
There's a bunch of news, but the big story that just seems to dominate the news headline is that some blowhard guy yells at Ocasio-Cortez, who we love, by the way, that she's a big booty Latina, And this dominates the news cycle, and that's all anybody's going to talk about.
And surprisingly, this story actually has still dominated the news cycle today, because AOC, she made a video where I guess she called her booty juicy or something.
lydia smith
She sure did.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim pool
It's just, this is, yeah, because no one said that.
And it's like, Freudian slip?
What are you talking about?
But here's the thing that I didn't realize.
I didn't realize that it was in response to that, that she called January 6th essentially an inside job.
So this is intriguing.
And we're going to be talking with Alex Stein, the man himself, who said that AOC was a big booty Latina, to talk about that.
But also, you know, I've mentioned that, you know, Alex, you do a bunch of culture jamming stuff, which is actually particularly effective in terms of Well, culture jamming, getting a message out, making points and things like that.
So, it's a Friday night.
We're going to be chilling.
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Without further ado, Mr. Alex Stein.
alex stein
Primetime99, Alex Stein, on the grind all the time, the king of culture jamming.
It's an honor and a pleasure to be here, Tim.
I'm a big fan.
And let's just say this, though.
I have to, you know, get a little mad at you because I saw a 22-minute video where You got a little mad at me, which is fair.
You know, that's kind of part of it.
I do want to evoke some sort of emotional response.
And I did have Tim, you know, a little emotionally triggered, which I like.
But now you're realizing it's what I did by calling AOC a big booty Latina, that she had to come out after three hours in the Capitol voting on bills.
The first thing she did when she came out, of course, she had to say the Capitol Police, you know, didn't do their job and it was an inside job and they let people in.
tim pool
Introduce yourself for those who aren't familiar with you and your work.
alex stein
Okay guys, like I said, I'm Alex Stein.
I'm a Blaze TV contributor.
I got a show coming out in September and basically what I do is I like to highlight the most absurd parts of our culture and jam in people's faces because we live in a society of political correctness where it's almost impossible to wake people up because I say this term a lot.
It's called trauma-based mind control.
Everybody's under basically mass formation hypnosis.
So the only way, in my opinion, to actually wake people up is to show them how absurd the narrative is.
I think a perfect example is Leah Thomas.
You just pulled it up that Leah Thomas is nominated for NCAA Woman of the Year.
But the fact is Leah was a man at one point and swam on the men's team for three years,
ranked 427th, then is able to take gender hormone therapy and swim against the women
and win multiple NCAA championships.
So for me, I think that is very absurd and I think I feel most bad.
I don't know if that's the proper English grammar, but I feel the worst for the 17 other swimmers
that had to compete against Leah, who still has male genitalia, even though she's a woman,
and still I believe likes women.
tim pool
There's a lot that I wanna talk about there too, because I had a tweet about,
are UFC fighters allowed to take drugs to reduce their weight
so they can get into lower weight brackets, Yeah.
We'll get into all that stuff.
So thanks for joining, Alex.
It's going to be a blast.
alex stein
Thank you.
tim pool
We got Mary Morgan as well.
mary morgan
I'm back once again.
Hello, my name is Mary.
I co-host Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube.
We do a live show where we cover celebrities, movies, all the entertainment news and light-hearted content that you might not hear about on IRL.
And when you super chat us, you get to shoot money at us.
It's fun.
ian crossland
It's true.
Ian Crossland here, iancrossland.net.
I was actually on Pop Culture Crisis today.
It was hot.
mary morgan
Or we were joined by someone who looks very much like you.
ian crossland
Which was me.
You're right.
You're wrong.
And also, if you haven't seen the Cast Castle vlog, today's the day.
If you want to go back and see who I really am, if you don't believe me, check it out.
It's hot.
Let's pass it on to Lydia.
lydia smith
Sounds awesome.
I'm very excited to be joining Alex Stein this prime time on a Friday night.
We're going to take it super easy, talk about some fun stuff, and here Alex has been up to.
I'm stoked.
tim pool
So people have started posting ghost emojis in the chat.
lydia smith
Oh, that's for Mary.
mary morgan
I guess I should have gotten the NAD earlier, huh?
tim pool
But I think it might be also the lurking in the attic thing.
mary morgan
Great episode.
It was one time!
tim pool
All right, let's talk about this first story, and y'all have probably seen it.
AOC calls out Capitol Police after troll calls her Big Booty Latina on the hill steps.
So that was it.
That was you who called her your favorite Big Booty Latina, and you were very happy and smiling and saying you loved her and all that stuff.
She got mad, and so I'll just clarify right away.
I knew that AOC made the statement about Capitol Police and the insurrection being implying it was an inside job, that there were police inside opening the doors.
I just didn't realize that she was making a point about you specifically.
And so I will walk back my statement.
What I said earlier today was that For one, I think your culture jamming is fantastic.
We've talked about how we want to do culture jamming more as a marketing tool and also to affect change, and that you've done a particularly good job of that.
I don't think that calling AOC a big-booty Latina solved or did anything.
I was wrong.
It actually got her to come out and issue a prominent statement that January 6th was that police officers in the building opened the door.
That would not have happened were it not for something, to me, seemed completely inane.
And here we are.
I'm flabbergasted.
alex stein
And you should be, and it is completely inane.
And let me tell you something.
I am mentally insane.
Like I said, I call myself primetime because I am insane.
And this is the thing, though, Tim.
Even though I am an imbecile and an idiot, I want to say that I actually planned this.
I talked about this earlier.
AOC constantly says that she's a victim of sexualization.
She says that people on the right do not like her because they want to date her.
There was a picture of her boyfriend, now fiance, in Miami with his feet.
And everybody said, ooh, look at her gross feet.
Of course, my point being is, For her, it's all about image and looks, and that's why people don't like her.
So my thought was, if I run into Elan Omer, I'm going to say, I think you married your brother.
Is that what happened?
I had stuff for each congresswoman of the squad, but for AOC, I said, instead of... I called out Adam Kinzinger, and I called him a traitor and a D-bag, but my point being is...
Like that when you call people out and you're kind of like aggressive that doesn't work.
That's not culture jamming That's like being rude.
So in my mind I said, you know what?
I'm gonna give AOC what she wants I'm gonna bait her and I'm gonna sexualize her and actually, you know I called this on Sarah Gonzalez's show on the blaze before I said I'm gonna call her big booty Latina, but I did it on I did it on purpose so the reason why I thought I would go to city council meetings at the very beginning of the COVID pandemic, and I would talk seriously, and they wouldn't pay attention.
They would look at me like I was an idiot, like a conspiracy theorist, which I am, a tinfoil hat wearing.
But my point being is you couldn't evoke a response.
And then one of the first meetings is we have Mayor Johnson.
He's a Nice guy.
And I said, you know, they're pushing the vaccine real hard.
I said, you should offer free vaccines in the gay neighborhood.
You should call it Eric Johnson's Free Johnson & Johnson because the gay community will love the double entendre.
And since you're the first openly gay mayor of Dallas, they'll really love it.
He's not.
He's married with kids.
And he was shook.
You know, he was just his face like a pumpkin.
He was just like, you know, what?
And that's when I kind of realized, all right, I have to troll these people.
My comedic hero is Andy Kaufman, and what he did brilliantly is he blended the line of reality and fiction so you couldn't tell.
So my point being, as it's long-winded, with AOC I said, I'm going to try to get an emotional response by hitting on him.
But I want her to think I'm serious.
I want her to think I actually like her.
And then in her tweet, when I said, you're a big booty Latina, she actually ended up coming back and trying to take some sort of selfie with me.
So she liked the compliments.
I did it in front of her fiancé, who I totally cussed him.
tim pool
She said, let's get a selfie or something like that.
alex stein
Yes, that's exactly what she said.
tim pool
And then she like gave a peace sign.
alex stein
And she did.
But yet, you know, the narrative after was that she wanted to deck me, which is obviously provably false.
tim pool
She tweeted about it and deleted it.
Because what was the first thing she tweeted?
alex stein
Well, she came out, her staffer came out after it happened because they're like, who is this guy?
And they came, like, took this picture right in front of my face.
I said, I'm Alex Stein.
Like, I'm on the blaze.
Here's my business card.
You know, like, you know, I'm not trying to hide.
And of course, they didn't like that.
And then when they figured out who I was, that I'm this right wing troll that, you know, and I'll call myself a troll, you know, I'm a goblin, I'm whatever, whatever adjective you want to call me, I agree with it.
My point being, Is when I came out and I admitted who I was, that's when she was triggered.
She just couldn't stand it that some right-wing guy, you know, got her and she didn't want to get got.
So of course her ego was just totally shattered.
So she had to create this new narrative that I said juicier, that I said ass, which I never said.
The video proves that.
And my point being in all of this is I laid out a trap and I'm not, like I said, I'm an idiot,
but I knew I was going to invoke emotional response to him, but I had no idea that it
would be this big of a response that she would make so many Instagram videos that she'd make a
post asking people questions about it. And then she has to.
tim pool
So, so, uh, I stand corrected. My, my, My thought was like, you did this thing, and what was the point?
I understand your point now, and in fact, it triggered AOC to call out the police in the Capitol and directly implicate the 1-6 committee investigation.
Literally saying, they're not investigating this, I don't feel safe, and wow!
You put those pieces together and it's, you know, I don't think you expected her to indict the 1-6 committee in response to you trolling her on, like, you know, she's notorious for saying people want to date her and things like that.
alex stein
And that's why I said that though!
tim pool
Right, I stand corrected.
I, I, I...
And so the reason that we're seeing her response is because she has to bury her emotional reaction.
She's probably getting a ton of heat from Democrats over what she said about the police in January 6.
And so she's leaning as heavily into the I was harassing as possible to dominate news coverage to shut down the 1-6 conversation.
alex stein
And she's right.
I mean, I did cross the line a little bit.
Of course, I hit on her.
But at the same time, I was very nice.
You know what I mean?
I mean, I don't care what you say.
tim pool
You're, like, laughing.
alex stein
Yeah, I'm laughing.
I'm nice.
I'm saying, you're a big-booted Latina.
I think you're sexy.
Even though you want to, you know, abort and kill babies, I still love you, you know?
And that was my whole point, is I try to actually be nice, because the people on the left, Marjorie Taylor Greene, friend of mine, she's great.
She says on the Capital Sept, she'll get harassed.
They call her the B-word, the C-word, all this mean stuff.
That doesn't have the same effect.
Like, if you start doing that, a politician's going to put their head down and go about their business.
But as soon as you try to get them in a trap, you're either nice to them by being, you know, trolling them.
That's how we win the culture war, is by evoking a response.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, so, uh, we've been... I thought Mary was going to say something.
alex stein
I thought you said you'd look at something.
mary morgan
Well, I want to know what culture jamming means.
alex stein
Okay, so culture jamming is where you take the most absurd parts of our culture and you jam it in people's face to bring awareness, because even people that agree with the mainstream narrative They don't even know what the mainstream narrative is.
One video... Oh, go ahead.
Let me just say this.
One thing, Beto O'Rourke's running for governor of Texas.
One of my buddies, Cassidy Campbell, has a big YouTube channel.
I make all kinds of content, but we do a thing where we'll go fake door-knocking, or really door-knocking, and we'll talk about Beto O'Rourke's real thing, how he wants to give gender reassignment surgery to seven-year-old kids.
Even people that are as leftist as he gets, they're kind of like, I don't know if a seven-year-old should be on that.
tim pool
What are you, transphobic?
alex stein
No, I'm actually trans.
I'm gender fluid.
I'm Alexandria half the time.
You'll see.
You can pull it up.
Me, Alexandria Stein in a bathing suit.
We should pull that up.
But my point being, the culture jamming, it's just exposing the craziest aspects of our culture.
tim pool
Here's a really good example.
Uh, James O'Keefe went, I don't know if he personally did, but Veritas, uh, I think it might have been Veritas, or maybe it was actually just James, they went door to door, and they asked people if they were, if they, they said, we're a group that supports gun control, and we don't like people to, you know, having guns, it's dangerous, do you agree?
And they were like, yes, of course.
And they said, we would love it if you would put this sign on your lawn saying, proud gun-free home.
And the people went, No, no, I'm not doing that.
And they're like, why not?
Like, because you're like inviting people to rob you.
And then they go, it sounds like you're saying you need guns.
No, no, no, I just I don't want that is culture jamming.
Those kind of stunts that that expose and as you said, like jam it in their face.
But it's just like exposing the absurdities of things that are happening.
It's like satire.
It's activism in a sense.
It's making a point.
You can go to someone and you can be super liminal.
X. You know, I will tell you thing.
We need guns to stay safe.
We have those rights and people are going to argue with you about it.
But you go to them and get them to tell you we will not let people know we don't like guns.
That's a secret.
And you're like, Hmm, I wonder about that.
Right?
mary morgan
So you didn't know that she was going to speak on 1.6 when you did that, but what were you hoping would happen?
alex stein
Well, I just hope I got a response.
Just any sort of response.
Anything?
Yeah, I didn't know that she was going to actually take my video and download it and reshare it.
You know, she literally screen recorded it and reshared it.
I couldn't believe that.
You know, it's got millions of hits on her Twitter.
tim pool
I just gotta say, I feel like you slipped on a banana peel but pulled off a perfect backflip from it.
alex stein
100%.
But see, that's the thing.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take when Gretzky and Michael Scott.
So my point being is you have to actually go out there and try this.
It could have been a dud, of course, but when you're actually on the grind, and this is for people watching at home, I just want to say, you have to go try.
And I'm a try-hard, for lack of a better word.
And it worked.
Not every time does it work, but this one was gangbusters.
ian crossland
It made me think of Kavanaugh, who lately, recently had been harassed by people standing outside a restaurant while he's trying to eat a steak.
And that was the first thing I thought.
I was like, Oh, okay.
So this is kind of like, I don't know if he's putting it back in someone's or at least bringing it.
The thing about the Kavanaugh thing was it wasn't televised.
So there's no video evidence of it.
We heard about it under the rug, but she made a statement, Alex, after you did that, Alex.
Alex and Alex, hey, that's pretty cool.
We should do a talk show.
A and A. And that the government's not designed to protect people.
And I think that's kind of true.
Like you were saying, they get harassed often walking up the steps to work.
We know where they are.
We know where they're centralized, what building they're in.
That's not secure for people to be making laws that are angering people or could potentially anger a lot of people.
alex stein
Well she said that AOC tweeted that we need to make these people uncomfortable.
That was exactly her exact words.
So that's what I was trying to do.
I wanted to make her uncomfortable.
Now I didn't want to cross the line.
I didn't want to say like the P word or ass.
I didn't say ass.
But I wanted to take it to the limit and that's what I like to do.
I like to tiptoe the line of reality and fiction because I want her to actually think that I'm attracted to her.
And to be honest AOC's politics are terrible.
But she is very attractive.
I have to give her that.
I'm telling you, she's got a very pert, petite derriere.
It's not big and booty.
It's actually pretty nice.
tim pool
Did you say pert?
alex stein
Pert, you know?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, how old are you?
alex stein
Pert plus is my shampoo, so I see that word a lot.
tim pool
I don't agree.
I don't understand why, though, people would say that.
To me, I think she's rather horsey.
mary morgan
When she opens her mouth, but when her mouth is closed, she looks okay.
lydia smith
She's very cute, yeah.
alex stein
I'm not very picky, Tim.
I mean, come on, no.
tim pool
She's got a pulse and she's breathing, right?
alex stein
Yeah, well, not even that.
I'm just saying, you know, she's in good shape.
I think she checks a lot of the boxes.
And I can see why she actually got in her position.
She's 32 years old, she's one of the most popular congresswomen, but she actually, in her Netflix documentary, she basically got casted for that.
You know, she was basically almost like a casting call.
And so I can see why she got picked, almost like you get picked for a reality show or something.
She has the look, she has the, you know, she's articulate, even though what she's saying is, you know, garbage.
There's a reason why she's successful, because she actually is easy on the eyes.
ian crossland
What's the Netflix doc?
I haven't heard of this yet.
alex stein
It's Becoming AOC, I believe is the name of it.
tim pool
Oh, Becoming AOC.
alex stein
Something like that.
Google it real quick.
I forget the name, but in that it talks about how, you know, multiple people for her district, you know, submitted for, you know, basically to get the nomination and she dominated.
But see, this is another thing we're not talking about.
In her own district, a guy that owns a bodega was defending his bodega and ended up stabbing somebody to death.
That was getting robbed.
And he had a $500,000 bond and they lowered it to $250,000.
So people in New York, you can rub feces on somebody and get out of jail within 24 hours.
But if you defend your bodega, you're going to get charged with manslaughter and you're not even going to be able to get out of jail.
So the hypocrisy in her own district, it's literally rotting like the big apple.
It's the rotting apple right now.
And she's all worried about me saying big booty Latina.
So her priorities are absolutely screwed up.
ian crossland
The documentary is called Knock Down the House.
alex stein
Knock Down the House.
ian crossland
It's from 2019.
I think she's I think the points about her not feeling safe are interesting because one, I'm hoping that like when she was talking about one six, she was like clapping her hands, clapping her hands.
And she looked like tariff, like just completely nervous wreck.
I imagine someone in capital would feel like that these days with this heightened sense of security, with the economy, you know, inflation and things like that.
And I want to help.
But also, it's not cool to tell people to go make politicians uncomfortable.
I mean, maybe that's a very vague thing to tell people.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think AOC might be right, but she's just a hypocrite.
alex stein
And I want to say this.
Actually, the only reason I disagree with you is because this is part of the left's narrative.
They have to be a victim.
Victimhood is their favorite thing.
Because if you play the victim, then they're not responsible for your actions.
It's like, oh, well, if you're poor, you can steal.
You know, so it's kind of their victimhood mentality.
In AOC, she plays a victim better than anybody in Congress, yet she's super successful.
She's really young.
She's been afforded every opportunity possible in life.
But she can, if you give her an inch, she's going to take a mile of victimhood.
tim pool
But this is why she's so popular among the millennial left.
She exemplifies them, given every opportunity.
Privileged, and then complaining about it.
Living one of the most comfortable lives in the world, and complaining about it.
mary morgan
Well, she talks a lot about how she came from humble beginnings, and she used to be a waitress, and blah blah blah.
tim pool
Bartender, I think.
Something like that.
Ask why there are people who are traveling thousands of miles, crawling through desert, to come here to work in an industrial setting, or in a chicken factory.
And she was a waitress living in, you know, New York or whatever.
alex stein
In Manhattan, in Union Square, one of the nicest neighborhoods in New York.
tim pool
Oh, at that famous Union Square restaurant, right?
alex stein
Yeah, and so she probably did really well because bartenders actually do pretty good.
But it's funny because you make a point, and we talk about the border, over 108,000 drug overdose deaths this year.
The issue that we're having with fentanyl, people are literally dying, young kids.
The opioid epidemic is one of the worst problems that we're facing.
And politicians, and this is the problem that I have with the conservative side, Forget about the $80 billion we're giving to Ukraine.
Forget about Dan Crenshaw voting for servicemembers that aren't vaccinated to get kicked out of the military.
It doesn't matter if you have an R or a D next to your name.
I want them to have an A next to their name for America.
And that's the problem, is that we have all of these politicians that are run by multinational corporations.
Businesses are deciding, really, what's happening in the world.
So it doesn't matter if you're right or left, because they do not care about the border between Texas and Mexico, yet they're giving 80 billion dollars to defend the border between Russia and Ukraine.
And for me, that mostly makes me sick, because, listen, I love the gay community, I love the trans community, but if you're in the Ukraine, you cannot, gay marriage is illegal.
If you're transgender in the Ukraine and you try to go to Poland, they give you a gun and they say, get back on the front line.
So, the country that we're defending the most, with a huge majority of our money, does not even have the same culture that we have here in America.
In all seriousness though, there could've been that quid pro quo.
City Pride and I saw more Ukrainian flags and I saw rainbow, well I saw more rainbow
flags, but I'm just saying I saw a lot of Ukrainian flags as well.
tim pool
In all seriousness though, there could have been that quid pro quo.
There could have been Joe Biden saying, you guys got to ease up on the LGBTQ stuff.
We're going to fund you, but let's.
alex stein
Tim, this is what makes me so mad.
I don't care all day long.
Hunter Biden can smoke crack all day long.
No, serious.
I'm dead serious.
As a matter of fact, I think that makes him endearing because everybody knows somebody that's a drug addict.
What we don't talk about, we don't talk about his business dealings in China.
We don't talk about the quid pro quid Pro quo Joe talking about giving a billion dollars making
sure they had the right people in power in the Ukraine and Now we're fighting a proxy war fighting a war by proxy
Killing young people over what over decisions made by a crackhead president by the president's crackhead son
That it gets that gets no media attention, but they're gonna give you the prostitutes all day long
They're gonna give you the crack pipe all day long Like you said talk about the quid pro quo stuff like I don't
shop up shut up about it No, but but what I'm saying is your frustration about hey,
I'm so mad that you know, he's the big booty Latina is a head story because the real story is that
January 6 the Capitol Police let people in And that's obvious because people couldn't get in.
They didn't have a key to get into the door, but it's the same thing.
tim pool
The crazy thing is there's that video going viral right now where the window was smashed out.
They still can't get in because it's mag locked.
And then these guys look up at someone and point, and then someone releases the MagLock.
And that could have been an insurrectionist, whatever you want to call them.
Maybe someone broke in, found the MagLock release, and they said, press it.
Or maybe it was a cop, because we did see other cops open the door directly.
We saw other cops taking selfies.
So I'm with AOC on that one.
I want the investigation too.
alex stein
A thousand percent we want the investigation.
tim pool
Obviously, she thinks the outcome will be different from what the right thinks it will be, but I don't think that's relevant.
I think the question is, what happened?
alex stein
And we look at January 6th, you know, obviously there's some people, one of my very good friends, Luke Coffey, you know, he has a GoFundMe.
He's actually being charged with assaulting a police officer.
He's actually kind of well-known.
He's the crutch guy.
And he held a crutch, he found a crutch on the ground and did, he kind of, you know, put it against the riot shields and now he's being charged with assaulting a cop.
And let me tell you something, the guy's a 37-year-old young, nice kid that, you know, felt, you know, that there was an injustice even though it was the most... 37-year-old young kid?
I'm just saying he's a young middle-aged middle-aged man but I'm just saying he's not he's not built for excuse me he's not built for federal prison is my point being I think he'd be young for prison but it was the most fair election the best election ever Joe Biden got 81 million votes I just want to put that on record my point being There is people there that loved our country very much, and now they're being labeled as a domestic terrorist.
They're saying it's worse than 9-11.
And for me, I look back at our government's track record, the same people that said we had weapons of mass destruction, which we didn't, are the same people that are saying American citizens that love our country the most are terrorists.
So the government's going to lie to you to create a narrative that's not true.
tim pool
I'll tell you what I think.
I think the people that rioted, I think the people that were fighting with cops, even pushing on the cops, that's bad.
And there's got to be some accountability there.
alex stein
That's fair.
tim pool
But I think that when Trump gets in office in 2024, well, in 2025, blanket pardon across the board.
alex stein
But you think Trump will beat DeSantis?
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I'm saying, like, I'm not saying that will happen.
I'm just saying, if Trump or DeSantis gets in, I think, without condemning, actually, no, with a little condemnation, but with recognizing the threat this country faces through the massive divide, I think you've got to get these people out.
Yeah.
You've talked about it before with Shea's Rebellion.
ian crossland
Yeah, John Hancock pardoned a bunch of the farmers that had rebelled because they were being overtaxed.
They didn't have the money.
They were just back from the revolution, soldiers with their fortunes depleted.
And then they were getting imprisoned because they didn't have the money still that they didn't have.
And they just surrounded the courthouse, refused to let the people, the judges act.
And there was jail sentences and stuff.
And then Hancock came and was like, no, no, no, we're forming a union.
You're pardoned.
Everyone's pardoned.
alex stein
Well, let's talk about Trump, because everybody loves Trump, and I love the Trump that calls Little Marco Rubio.
I love the Trump— What's he going to say about DeSantis?
ian crossland
I think Hancock pardoned everyone except for like three people or two people.
alex stein
But my point being is, listen, Trump I think had 11 days in office where he could have pardoned some people.
You look at Trump with Julian Assange, who the WikiLeaks basically gave him the 2016 election.
Yet, he doesn't get a pardon.
You know, Kodak Black gets one.
Not saying that Kodak Black, you know, good rapper, not saying he shouldn't get one, but I think Trump has a serious, you know, priority issue.
tim pool
I just—I gotta point this out.
Never in my life, growing up, like in the 2000s into Occupy Wall Street and after, for several years after, Did I think that at one point in my life I would be sitting across the table from a conservative?
I would say yes.
alex stein
Yeah, well, I'm kind of down the middle, but yeah.
tim pool
Suit-wearing guy arguing that the Republican president should have pardoned Julian Assange because 10 years ago the left loved Assange and now they leave him hanging out to dry.
They leave him to rot.
alex stein
Tim, you made your bones.
Okay, excuse me.
Say what you're going to say real quick.
tim pool
I was going to say Trump is the reason they're trying to extradite Julian Assange too.
I think Trump wanted Julian Assange because Julian knows things about the DNC and Trump wanted that.
And so now he's being handed off to Joe Biden, which is extremely dangerous.
But anyway.
alex stein
Well, let's talk about Occupy because I know that was, you know, a huge thing for you.
Those people were very anti-establishment then.
Those people were anti-banks.
Now these people love Pfizer.
They love banks.
They love Halliburton.
So it just shows you that these people are under what I call mass formation hypnosis.
They don't even know whose side to be on.
I agree.
And this wasn't that long ago.
Like you said, in 2008 when we had the financial crash, people were out there protesting for what I agree is I'm anti-establishment.
I'm not right or left.
I just don't like the establishment.
I think that the system is just terrible and the people in power.
Once they get in power, I talk about the multinational corporations, all they care about is their
political action committee, they care about the money that they're getting donated.
It's like you look at Apple, you know Apple freaking in China at their Foxconn factories.
Instead of paying their employees more, they have suicide nets because so many employees
are jumping off the roof.
But instead of paying them a little more, they make stronger nets.
They make bigger nets.
So we have a priority issue, because it's the globalization of America.
And that's why I'm an American first guy, because I care about America.
I want to actually put America in the forefront.
But if you say you're a nationalist, or if you have an American flag in your yard, that's a hate symbol.
tim pool
You're right-wing now.
alex stein
Yeah, exactly.
You're conservative.
And I'm considered alt-right, because I love America.
And that's not how it should be.
But they create a narrative that America is bad.
Yet, nearly 100,000 people, even more than that, Illegally cross into our country every month.
So go figure, if it's such a racist place, why does everyone want to immigrate here?
tim pool
Man, you hit the nail on the head right there.
I completely agree.
I never really cared all that much for the left, the right, you know, that idea.
It was always just like, the machine is broken, it is unjust, it is corrupt, it is manipulative.
And so that is, for me, Especially it starts with the media.
Because the media is lying to people and they just go along with it.
So that's really what got me here.
Early on in my career, I wasn't talking that much about Democrats or Republicans.
It was the media and their lies.
Well, as time goes on, you start to realize they're lying to benefit the Uniparty, which morphed into the Democrats when Trump took over.
And then you get a narrative.
The Democratic Party is the party of the establishment, wealthy elites.
The media props them up.
The Lincoln Project and the neocons joined the Democrats after Trump took over.
Half the Republican Party is extremely bad.
The other third is really bad.
There's a small handful of them that are okay.
For me, I'm like, Thomas Massey is cool, Rand Paul I like, Carter Taylor Greene is great, and the rest of them, there's a few others that are doing a decently good job.
But the machine itself is dominated by the Uniparty, and it's just corrupt.
I don't care about how much taxes you want to take, that's ancillary, it's after the fact.
We can have a conversation about that.
For the time being, it's corrupt people lying, cheating, and stealing, and destroying the country.
ian crossland
I wonder if it's the media is manipulating the politicians.
I'm sure it's happening on some level, or if they're all colluding, or if the politicians are making the media act that way.
But I think like Alexandria Cortez, she didn't ever mention, I've never heard her mention the 1-6 cops letting people in on 1-6.
I've never heard her mention that until a couple days ago.
And it's been two years of people in solitary.
Did she not hear about it?
Are they that insulated?
It's hard to think that people could be so insulated that they don't see what I see, but I've spent a lot of my time looking at a lot of things from the outside.
I think when you're in that D.C.
environment, they may actually be very intentionally insulated.
alex stein
No, Ian, I deserve all the credit.
I broke her.
You know, I broke her.
I created an emotional response.
mary morgan
She thinks that getting called a big booty Latina is the same gravity as 1-6.
alex stein
A hundred percent.
She thinks the cops, you know, are basically, you know, since they didn't arrest me, which they did, they did.
She complained five times.
She said that in her own tweet.
And the cops did come, and they ID'd me.
I gave them my ID.
I said, am I under arrest?
Am I being detained?
They said no, and I was able to walk away.
And her watching me walk away, I know, made her so mad that she's like, I hate these Capitol Police!
unidentified
Oh my god, they let the rioters in!
mary morgan
That's what happened.
You made her throw a tantrum.
ian crossland
But what was interesting is that she must have known about it for a while.
alex stein
Oh come on Ian!
Everybody knows about this and listen, she's the same person that said she was afraid of
her life yet she was a mile away.
And at the same time, even if every single rioter went in, did they really think that
they were going to be able to, you know, even do any sort of legislation?
tim pool
Come on. She so this is a narrative that for some reason has even been difficult to
Permeate the right when AOC said she was scared when they came and knocked on her door. She wasn't just not in the
capital She fabricated the story outright. Well politician lied.
What?
ian crossland
This is a tough one for me to wrap my head around.
mary morgan
I thought she claimed to be in one of the bathrooms hiding in a bathroom stall.
tim pool
In her office, let me break this down for you because I will tell the story every chance I get.
AOC did an Instagram video, it's about 45 minutes long, where she said she's in her office and she hears a knock, knock, knock.
And she got scared thinking it's them.
They've gotten here, what do I do?
And they said, go hide in the bathroom.
And I did.
And the door opens and it's a police officer going, or it's a man going, Where is she?
unidentified
Where is she?
tim pool
And she's like, she said she thought she was going to die.
Turns out it was a police officer evacuating her.
What she doesn't tell you, although she kind of does... Is that she was in there pooping?
No, is that that happened, I believe, one full hour before the barricades were breached at the front of the building, meaning no one knew anyone was going to get into the Capitol.
AOC claimed she thought they had made it to her office.
her office. How does that make sense? Nobody was in the building. Nobody knew they were running
in the building. And if AOC knew they were going to breach the building, why didn't she report it?
Weird questions there, right? The media tried defending her saying, yes, she wasn't in the
Capitol. She was in her office, but there are tunnels that connect the Capitol to her office.
That explains it.
I had a guy from the Huffington Post tell me that I was wrong when I tweeted her story didn't make sense, and he DMs me and then I pull up the timeline and he responds in private DM going like, oh, oh, you're right.
When she claimed that she thought they got to her office and she was gonna die, No one had even attempted to breach the Capitol building.
She made the story up.
It was like a full hour before the barricades even moved, something like that.
And then they made their way to the front of the Capitol, but AOC had no idea it was gonna happen.
She fabricated the story after the fact, and people bought it, believed it, and they still do to this day.
ian crossland
I've been thinking lately, no matter how emotional I am about something, no matter how strongly I feel about something, it doesn't make it more or less right.
Like, So getting crying saying it's real doesn't make it more or less real.
tim pool
Manipulation.
alex stein
Yeah, you have to be emotional.
And I don't want to get too conspiratorial, but it kind of sounds like you remember how Larry Silverstein during 9-11, you know, he usually has breakfast there and he happened to be having a little doctor's appointment for a scan.
I'm just saying, you know, it's not a surprise that these people probably do have prior knowledge to stuff that's going to happen.
And we talk about Ray Epps, because I know you want to expose that, but literally, he's on camera saying, we need to have an insurrection, we need to go inside.
Yet, you look at the mainstream media, New York Times, Adam Kinzinger, if they're running cover for him... They are running cover for him.
Then you know what the truth is!
You know that he's involved and they're protecting him.
But let me say this real quick, because we know about the Mockingbird media.
We know the government admits that they have literally intelligence in every radio, television, film, every form of media that we have.
So it would be impossible Well, it's possible that he wasn't in on it and that they just don't know.
ian crossland
It is possible.
You're talking about probability in this instance.
tim pool
I really doubt that.
The first thing I say about Ray Epps is, we just don't know.
The second thing I'll say is, what we do know is that he called for storming the Capitol, and he's not being criminally charged.
alex stein
He's being protected!
tim pool
He's being protected by the media, and Adam Kinzinger defended him online.
The question then becomes, why?
We have no evidence to explain what their motivation is, we can only surmise.
At the very least, a plausible minimum non-conspiratorial responses. Ray Epps
may have been the first guy the feds went after because he was on the live stream saying it. They may
have been looking at him right away.
ian crossland
Made a deal.
tim pool
Made a deal with him immediately. It could have been the night before he's on a live stream
telling people to storm the Capitol. I imagine this before anything happened,
feds could have went right to him in the hotel and said, you're going to wear a wire.
You're going to give us names and you work for us now as a CI.
And that's why after the fact, you don't see him getting charged.
Not that he's a federal agent, but that he may have been an informant after the fact.
Now that's a minimum.
Maybe there's something else beyond this.
I just don't know. What I do know is it is very strange that they're putting people in solitary,
they're charging them with seditious conspiracy, but the guy who's literally on camera telling
people to do it, telling them how to do it, hasn't been charged. Tim, MAGA granny, there's a grandma
alex stein
in there with a little flag and she's a hardened criminal.
They actually think she's going to be able to overthrow the government. The photo of the one with
tim pool
the little flag was from I think Madison.
But there is currently a 69-year-old cancer patient going to 60 days in jail for trespassing.
alex stein
And you know why the judge said that?
Because the judge had let somebody else off and they went on Fox News and didn't show remorse, but in the courtroom they did show remorse.
So, because of somebody else's conviction, she got a 60-day, 69-year-old cancer patient.
So that's where we're at.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
So the funny thing is, and I'm glad AOC said the doors are open by police, because that is a huge, huge, powerful political point.
And I will say I am shocked that it is the result of you calling AOC a big booty Latina.
Well, we don't know.
alex stein
No, it's the result.
And reality is stranger than fiction, Tim.
You have to realize that.
tim pool
This is important because there are many people like the 69-year-old cancer patient... Pamela Hemphill, by the way.
I don't know her specific story, but I really doubt this 69-year-old cancer patient was fighting with police officers.
She's probably one of the people who saw the door opened and walked in very casually.
alex stein
And she was on medical marijuana probably, so she didn't even know where she was at.
I'm just kidding.
tim pool
Because the police opened the door.
In more than one location, police at the Capitol building opened the doors.
There's even an instance where the police fanned people in, and a man was acquitted on all counts because he showed a video to the judge of him being motioned in by the officer.
So he was acquitted for that.
There was more than one door that was open, there was an instance where the cops said he respected what the people were doing, and there's instances where the cops took selfies with people.
So now this woman is going to jail for 60 days after she was potentially invited in, or some people were.
These people need to be pardoned across the board for this ridiculous misdemeanor stuff, and it is powerful, extremely powerful, now that AOCA said the doors were open.
That needs, that clip needs to be, I don't know, should I take that clip and should I buy TV commercials?
alex stein
Honestly, hey, but let's not forget Ashley Babbitt, probably let in by a Capitol Police officer, gets shot and murdered and she was a veteran.
She's somebody that loved their country so much and she just gets thrown under the rug as some evil person.
So not only did, you know, these people get let in, but some people got murdered.
tim pool
I think maybe we do a, um, I have to figure out how to do it.
There's a lot of things I want to do that never happen, unfortunately, which I don't like bringing it.
I don't like saying we want to do things if we don't have a means to actually get it done.
But I would love to see a commercial where it's like, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says that there were cops and other people who opened the doors to let that in on January 6th and has called for an investigation.
We agree with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Support the calls for an investigation into who opened the doors at the Capitol building.
ian crossland
Can you play that video?
tim pool
Let me see if... She's got to be regretting that now.
unidentified
Or not.
ian crossland
I think she's being very serious and it is disturbing.
alex stein
AOC big booty is the first thing that aggregates.
ian crossland
May have let people in.
tim pool
I didn't see Big Booty popped up when I typed in AOC.
ian crossland
That's funny.
If police let people in and those people that were let in are in solitary confinement, it is inane!
It is abjunct to American democracy.
tim pool
I just want to say, real quick, my video talking about AOC and the Big Booty thing was age-restricted on YouTube.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
The video where I talked about Big Booty Latina and all that stuff, they age-restricted it.
lydia smith
It's because it's an adult term.
tim pool
Maybe booties?
alex stein
Because don't babies wear booties?
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
So here's the video clip.
Let's wait.
This time I'm going to make sure we have the audio set properly before I press play.
Like Antifa?
alexandria ocasio-cortez
And that there were actual officers working with this and we never got to the bottom of
that and we never got any answers about that.
And to this day we're just supposed to pretend that that never happened?
I have no idea what happened to the people on the inside who were very clearly sympathetic
sympathetic with what was going on and opening the doors wide open for that.
And I'm supposed to sit here and pretend like none of that ever happened and then right afterwards you have a massive, you know, you just have this idea that throwing money at that problem is going to make it go away without any accountability.
And so this is where these things are breaking down.
We're not safe.
And it's not just about members of Congress not being safe.
The food staff workers aren't safe.
The janitors aren't safe.
We need to get to the bottom of this.
tim pool
So I'd love to get a commercial of a 60-year-old man being like, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says, people on the inside open the door.
ian crossland
This is what happened.
When you talked to her, when you approached her on the steps, she was with a Capitol Police officer that didn't get in your way and stop you.
And now she's questioning, is that guy on the, is that guy?
And she's wondering if they're like traitors in the building.
Whatever her reasoning is, it's important that we find out if people let people into the building.
Because those people are in solitary confinement right now.
alex stein
Ian, do you think they had a key?
I mean, how do you think they opened the door?
ian crossland
I saw a magnetic lock on the door get opened.
I saw the video of a cop looking at it.
unidentified
Who did it?
ian crossland
I don't care what the end result is.
tim pool
camera. Yep. And it was a police officer that like looked up and then you think these, these,
these dudes who are like trying to break a window to get in, know where the mag release
alex stein
is. And you know, you don't think there's some of those cops that probably were sympathetic
to what was happening. I mean, she's obviously correct. And I don't, I don't care what the
tim pool
end result is. Maybe the end result is like members of Congress were in on it. Good. Whatever.
Let's have an investigation into who opened those doors.
If there were members of Congress that were orchestrating the opening of the door to bring people in to disrupt this, then we should find out who did that and why.
I think all of these bumbling doddards, these old people, the Maga Mimas, who just saw a clear path and cops waving them in, who walked in and now have their lives destroyed, should be pardoned.
Those people should have never been charged.
That was a fault of Capitol Police and the government.
I want an investigation of the cops who opened the doors.
If they didn't open the doors this wouldn't have happened.
alex stein
Well and your bestie Joe Rogan talks about one of his favorite things that Alex Jones did is he exposed the WTO about in I believe in Seattle where there were agent provocateurs who stayed in a building and you know basically they were all wearing the same boots and agent provocateurs exist.
Now you're going to say oh none of them were on January 6th.
We have evidence of people using agent provocateurs to make a riot look bad.
That's a playbook.
It's kind of similar to Operation Northwoods, which, as you know, is a declassified thing where they're going to take planes and fly them into buildings during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the 9-11 was kind of similar to that.
But what I'm saying is, if you do not think the government has classified levels of information, and it's creating a narrative by using their own military, CIA, FBI, whatever you want to call it, alphabet agencies, in order to make things look worse than they really are, You know, you might be a conspiracy theorist.
ian crossland
Right, because it's a reason to get more funding for more security apparatus to grow the security organization.
alex stein
It's a false flag attack, guys.
And this is a false flag attack playbook.
I mean, you know, I could be wrong.
I'm not saying that I know everything.
But just all of the evidence, when we see Ray Apps, when we see the way the media is protecting them, it's hard for me to imagine that this was all just accidental.
ian crossland
Yeah, it could be a hybrid of like people getting angry and going to the Capitol and storming, and people trying to benefit off it by making it come out worse as a result.
So it could be both.
tim pool
I think if it is in that vein of false flag, it's more so that they allowed it to happen.
And that's why there's video of police officers not intervening.
There's a guy walking up to cops being like, why won't you stop this?
And the cops are like, we don't care.
It explains more so why there was no National Guard, no heavy police presence, why their claim, like Trump said he wanted the National Guard there and they rejected it.
So if, I'll put it this way.
On 529, the left insurrected.
They tried to tear, they did tear down the barricades of the White House.
They set fire to St.
John's Church and the guard post.
They forced the president into a bunker.
If the police there stood down and they tore the fences down or breached the White House, There would not be a 1-6.
Donald Trump would be president.
Donald Trump, there would have been a major statement.
There would have been far-left extremists have breached the White House.
Americans would have been terrified.
They would have said, this is insane.
And then the conversation would have been the police saying things like, we stood down because we did not want to hurt people and we didn't know how to react to this level.
But what happens is the police go out, Do their job and clear the space.
And the response from the media and the Democrats was to investigate the police over it.
They said the Capitol Police should be investigated for attacking protesters.
That's how it went down.
On January 6th, because the police let everyone do everything, it's, oh, oh geez, the police were the poor victims and these are the bad guys.
It's the very typical I'm the victim narrative that is used to manipulate people to gain power.
ian crossland
And it is.
Potentially possible that that was happening.
Like a cop's like, uh, there's 700 screaming people.
I'm not getting involved.
Are you kidding me?
Like that could probably also have been part of it.
I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't.
I mean, what are you going to do?
You get mobbed if that happens.
alex stein
Let's talk about the Summer of Love 2020, RIP George Floyd.
He's one of the greatest Americans of all time, one of my favorite actors.
But what I'm saying is, George Floyd, they literally burned down multiple cities and Kamala Harris donated to their bail bond fund.
If that is not a false flag, so that's basically encouraging people to cause as much damage, knowing you're going to get out a free jail card.
How much more evidence do you need that they like the protesting?
They want this to happen.
So the fact that they would convince Trumpers To go and do some sort of insurrection, I wouldn't put him past him.
And we talk about this, I do on my show, MKUltra, and you think of like, it doesn't have to be the 1984, you know, make you watch a video with your eyes wide open.
You can propagandize people with just the mainstream media, with just commercials, with just, you know, basically creating a narrative.
tim pool
You can target someone's Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram to only see certain things that will drive them insane.
And this is the crazy thing people need to realize about these platforms.
Facebook did an experiment on people, years ago, where they only showed them negative content to see how their posts would change and how they would behave.
alex stein
Well, and you know it sees the dilation of your pupil when you press a like, or, you know, you give it access to their rear face.
They admit this.
You give access to the front-facing camera, and it will actually measure the dilation of your pupil if you hit a like.
Wow.
That's why they created the multiple emojis, in order to see the different dilation levels of the eyeballs with a different response.
tim pool
So we know that Facebook was experimenting on people.
They were showing some people only happy content, people got happy.
They showed people negative, angry content, people got angry.
They could choose, Facebook knows this, so they can probably seek out, we're looking for angry people.
They find 50 angry people.
Okay, we want the 50 angry people in this particular area.
Now, we're gonna make sure the only thing they see is the government doing things that violate people's rights.
Then these people start getting angrier and angrier every day seeing this being like, what is happening?
What is happening?
What is my life?
And then they get a message from somebody or they comment on the post.
And there's another person that must be a fad being like, oh yeah, I am also angry.
Why don't you come here and plan something?
And then the feds come in and, we gotcha.
Or they screw up and then someone actually gets out and does something, and they're like, oops, well, better arrest them.
alex stein
What's the FBI's favorite narrative after a school shooting?
Oh, he was on our radar.
He was on our radar.
unidentified
He was on our radar, but we just, you know, he wasn't big enough on our radar.
tim pool
Well, proving the red flag laws don't do anything.
alex stein
Yeah, well, and Dan Crenshaw voted for that in a state like Texas.
tim pool
What happened to that guy?
alex stein
Because, like he said, he's bought and sold by these, you know, multinational corporations, and he doesn't care about America because he's the same guy that, you know, he lost his eye in the war, but he wants to send more people to fight for the war.
And I'm a conflict interventionist.
I hate the war.
I don't think there's any necessary reason to kill other people.
Even if you have the biggest conflict in the world, you have the biggest disagreement.
We are human beings.
That's what separates us from the animals.
We should be able to come to agreement like humans.
tim pool
What about with communists?
alex stein
I don't even think we should fight communism.
tim pool
No, no, but what if the communists are subverting your country and killing people and sterilizing kids and you're like... I'm the guy that stands in front of the tank and gets ran over.
alex stein
I mean, that's honestly how I feel.
tim pool
I hear you.
I agree for the most part.
I think the foreign intervention is typically a huge mistake.
But I'm not so naive as to not understand the argument made by neocons, right?
There's a power vacuum in the Middle East.
If we don't do it, China moves in.
China's moving into Afghanistan.
They're gonna seize up all that lithium.
It's gonna empower a really, really awful country.
And so, I don't think the US's argument for what they do is justifying it, but I understand the point they're making in not wanting China.
alex stein
They said weapons of mass destruction!
We have enough oil and gas reserves in Texas alone for America.
tim pool
The real reason is that the U.S.
wanted justification to dominate other regions to prevent a multipolar world.
alex stein
No, it's for the military-industrial complex.
I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm just saying it's a nuanced situation.
tim pool
That's a component of it.
Yeah, it's a big component.
It's a big component, quite possibly the biggest.
But I don't think it is just that simple.
It is true that China is gaining ground, expanding in South Africa, in South America and Africa, continent-wise.
And as the U.S.
starts to recede, they start expanding.
And then we're going to have to contend with a multipolar world where you have a China as a serious contender, you know, as a world power.
alex stein
Yeah, but Tim, you look at Barack Obama, he won the Nobel Peace Prize, and all he had to do was drop a drone strike every 20 minutes for 8 years.
He killed people at weddings, he killed children with these drones.
tim pool
I know, I think it's wrong.
alex stein
So that's, to me, if you kill, it's like why I don't really like the death penalty, because if you, you know, use capital punishment and you murder one innocent person, which you've done most, it makes it necessarily the whole system screwed up.
tim pool
Wait, I completely agree!
alex stein
On all of that!
tim pool
This is why I oppose the death penalty.
alex stein
But it's funny you say China, because they say it's our biggest threat, and I agree that they are a threat, because I think it's the Chinese fentanyl that they can add a molecule to that they're flooding through the border, like I said earlier.
We have a massive opioid epidemic.
But China, they rely on us like we rely on them, so it's almost a copacetic relationship.
One cannot exist without the other at this point.
So they want to give us the impression that we're always going to be fighting with them, but their economy's dying right now, our economy's dying, so What I'm saying is, unless we come together and build each other up, we're not going to make it.
So by killing each other, I think that just makes the problem worse.
We actually have to come to some sort of agreement, like the Donbass region of Ukraine, and if Russia wants a little land, give them some land!
I don't even care.
I don't want young children to die.
Call me a conflict interventionist, call me a, excuse my language, you know, wussy, whatever.
That's how I am.
ian crossland
You did see Hitler wanted a little land in the Sudetenland, and they gave it to him, and then you saw...
alex stein
Yeah, but everybody's Hitler.
I mean, come on, Ian.
You know what I mean?
That's it.
That's it.
ian crossland
But appeasement's not always the best.
tim pool
But it's not about Hitler and using the Nazi analogy.
It's about a conflict in which we said, we'll give you land.
And the person said, OK.
alex stein
I want more.
Yeah, give a mouse cookie.
You got to give him milk.
unidentified
I get that.
ian crossland
I've been thinking about, I've kind of taken a neutral stance on the war machine.
I was picturing having a conversation with Hillary Clinton last night and just like, where she's just totally candid, like, yeah, yeah, whatever.
And I'm like, OK, so what's up, dude?
And she's like, Ian, we're running The military machine.
This is it.
This is the war machine.
We have it right now.
Since the dawn of man, there has been a war machine.
And now, it's American.
And we have to use it.
If we don't, someone else will take it.
unidentified
Ian!
alex stein
Ian!
Let me say this.
There's a little country called Libya.
And Muammar Gaddafi was universally loved by his people, even though there's a different narrative.
Let me tell you something.
Libya is the only place in the world right now that has slave auctions.
Happens today.
What did Hillary Clinton say?
We came, we saw, he died.
Hillary Clinton going into countries...
Doing the War Machine is the only place on earth where you can go buy a slave in 2022.
I could go there right now and go buy me a slave.
Think about that.
That's all because of Hillary, who, her husband, flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane 26 times without secret service, and Ghislaine Maxwell, the only person to get 20 years in prison for sex trafficking children to no one.
So let me tell you something.
These people making the decision do not care about children, they do not care about killing babies, and they definitely don't care about black No.
unidentified
We need a pause sign.
alex stein
If there's a slave trade going on in a country, that they destabilize.
ian crossland
They don't, they care to the point where it's utilitarian decision-making
because destruction and moving resources around is a utilitarian function.
It doesn't matter who's getting that as long as enough people get it.
alex stein
For the banks.
ian crossland
Yeah, for the stabilization of the system.
tim pool
I don't think Hillary Clinton, you know, I'm sorry, Ian, you can make the argument
about some global elites that they think they're doing the right thing
and that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few,
but Hillary Clinton is not that.
ian crossland
She is, she ran the war machine for a while.
tim pool
But what I mean is, the accounts of Hillary Clinton are that she's like literally the devil.
She's not trying to help anyone.
ian crossland
How can you get into the position of American commander and not be the devil?
Your job is to destroy what's wrong.
tim pool
Listen, what I'm saying is, there are some world leaders that you could make an argument, they're utilitarians who think they're doing good.
Hillary Clinton is not one of those people.
She is a demon who wants to cause mass suffering.
ian crossland
I mean, she's just a mom, but she gotta... No, she's not just a mom.
She's not just a mom.
tim pool
When she laughed about that child who was raped, this woman is evil.
mary morgan
When was that?
tim pool
When she was younger she was it was she interning for a lawyer and then she And that's fine.
Everybody deserves defense.
alex stein
Yeah, I agree with that.
tim pool
She laughed about how she got him.
unidentified
Oh, he got away with it What makes someone like that That's it?
tim pool
narcissistic sociopathy There's a story that she was on like I think she was on a
US Air Force plane And there are ranking officers who are like engineers and
pilots and she holds up a wine glass. It's empty goes And they're looking around like what and she was
I think what's happening like like these these military officers need to pour her wine for that was a story
There was a book about it. There's numerous stories about how she treats people with disdain
She disparages people she treats them like garbage insects Yeah, so my point personal stuff aside. The system is
ian crossland
insanely destructive that we live in And I was like, well, we've never really done a genocide in the United States.
And I was like, the native population.
Oh, yeah, we genocided 90% of them.
So this whole system is about destroying people and things, taking land, getting your food, getting for your people.
And like, OK, accept that if you want to talk about it, at least, you know.
tim pool
So, so the issue here is that's the history of the world of all people.
ian crossland
And now the power is in the United States hands.
And that's why, like, do we want it out of the United States?
It's like, I like your idea of a peaceful union of people, but we need to make sure they have enough food and resources and water.
alex stein
So let's sell all the farmland to Bill Gates.
But no.
But let me tell you this though, RIP Norm Macdonald, probably one of the best comedians, but he, when he was on SNL, when he was doing Weekend Update, he's one of the funniest guys ever, he would go after Hillary for Vince Foster.
Vince Foster, I believe, was the Chief of Staff for Bill, and he's a guy that died in a park, I think it was like two gunshots to their head.
So I'm not even talking about the Clinton body count, I'm just saying, where there's smoke, there's fire.
I could defend AOC a million times over before I would defend Hillary Clinton.
Just based on, like you said, the laughing at the rape of a child, you look at all the conspiracy behind her.
So, to defend these elitists, because it's like a multi-level marketing scheme, you know?
One person, a few people benefit from all of our suffering.
It's very compartmentalized.
You kind of want to be, you know, in your head you want to think that, oh, the system's fair, but that's called cognitive dissonance.
Thinking the government has your back, when in reality the government is going to pee on you all day and tell you it's raining.
ian crossland
I don't think it's fair.
tim pool
I think it's highly unfair.
We're gonna do the segment on this one.
We're gonna do it.
Norm Macdonald, man.
alex stein
This is the best.
ian crossland
Oh, Vince Foster, Deputy White House Counsel.
tim pool
Have you ever seen the Norm Macdonald on The View?
Bill Clinton murdered a guy.
Oh boy.
alex stein
Barbara Walters.
Look at her.
ian crossland
You gotta see her.
unidentified
You're supposed to see him.
that's a little desperate in it. Let's jump to a liar, a crook murderer or anything like that.
I love George Bush, man. He's a good man, decent, you know, none of this. False.
Yeah, he's, you know, he's not a liar, a crook murderer or anything like that. So
it'd be good to get the, see, I don't, I think we should get the homicide out of the White House
and get like a, a fresh start because we don't want any more murderers. I think we should just
go on to the next question. Oh, my. Oh, Clinton, he murdered a guy. Wow.
You know, I'm not going to put accusations without proof, darling. That's the way it
does work. That's a little too far. Let's just, let's just go on to the next question.
This is not my week. Wait, he pushed it. Oh, it's not mine either. I'm being very nice. Okay.
Be a good boy.
Do you never hear that?
Listen, we don't need to talk about this!
I don't want to hear it and this is not the place to make those accusations.
And you're supposed to be funny!
This is a live show!
But you have been properly chastised by Barbara so I'm not going to ask the next question.
I thought it was a matter of record!
Look, let me do this, okay?
I'll tell you what's a matter of record.
You will not be invited back if you don't shut up.
Alright, now.
alex stein
He was never invited back, really.
unidentified
Let's talk football!
Alright, manslaughter.
Let's talk football.
lydia smith
Oh no!
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Did you ever hear the word?
Oh, the phone is ringing.
I certainly hope that's somebody calling to tell you to go home.
Oh no.
You got a phone ringing.
alex stein
This is the producer, he gives it out.
unidentified
Um...
Answer the phone!
Hello?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.
The thing is this...
You know Matt Strauss?
lydia smith
Yeah, the producer.
unidentified
The producer.
He told me it would be funny.
He said, like, why don't you carry a cell phone on and then let it ring and then pretend like there's a guy on it.
Is there anybody on it?
No, it's a thing.
Pretend.
You know what, Norm?
You're a dick, man.
alex stein
That's the end of it.
But it's funny.
You make a really good point in there, though.
She says, let's talk about football.
Because listen, I used to love professional sports, but that is what distracts us, Tim, from really what's going on.
They give us bread and circuses.
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna drink my beer on Sunday and watch the Dallas Cowboys lose for the, you know, 100th straight year.
tim pool
You know, when I was younger, I was very much like, I wish people stopped focusing on the sports and paid attention to politics.
But now that really, really dumb people are treating politics like sports, I'm like, maybe that was a bad idea.
alex stein
Yeah, but sports, listen, LeBron James, he's never read past the first page of a book.
tim pool
And he votes, and he gets political, and he comes out and he campaigns, and it's like, stop, please, please stop.
You don't read, you don't know what you're talking about.
alex stein
But who does he defend the most?
China.
So, my point being is, sports are great.
It's part of American culture.
Baseball, we got it!
China.
I don't do good impressions.
But what I'm saying is, sports are important.
I think for the youth, it gives them some sort of structure.
I think, you know, skateboarding, anything.
I'm saying any athletic prowess is good for young people instead of sitting and just playing a game.
Speaking of, I want to actually make this point.
This is what I envision the future is.
I actually believe that we're going to have some sort of Vanilla Sky Matrix future, where people are going to be so... Their lives are going to be so tumultuous outside of it, that they're going to actually convince people to plug into what is called the Metaverse.
Very similar to the Matrix.
And they're going to say, listen, we're going to intubate you.
And in the Metaverse, Ian, you're going to have a 10-inch... You know what?
You're going to be dating a supermodel.
So it would be smaller?
I'm not taking that deal.
Okay, but what I'm saying is, my point being is that you're going to have a beautiful supermodel
life and instead of living your 72 years on average here on earth, you're going to live
for a thousand years.
And you can look this up, they're actually talking about prison sentences for people
where you can make somebody think that they had a 10,000 year sentence in a week.
tim pool
You could be in it right now.
You know, you're like wondering why your life sucks, why you're poor, and it's like you're in jail.
alex stein
But my point being is the technology that they're going to have, and there's a thing called the Uncanny Valley, and actually, I forget the exact term for it, but like AT&T, Verizon, what they do is they try to actually get, like when you call a robot basically to try to get customer service, They're trying to create technology where you can't tell that you're talking to a robot, and they can't do it.
If they're ever tested, they can't do it, because there's a thing called uncanny valley where they can't make it exactly like a human.
It's not going to have the same speech pattern.
tim pool
Someday they will, though.
unidentified
Maybe.
alex stein
Well, you say that.
You say that.
And that's why I don't necessarily think they will, because I think it's almost impossible.
And the reason why is you say, oh, artificial intelligence will be able to create that.
Really, artificial intelligence just takes, basically, it can make future decisions for you based on past decisions, but the idea that it can be you and me, there's some sort of uniqueness about us that I do believe is impossible to recreate.
I think that could be our soul, personally, but I just think it's almost impossible.
ian crossland
There's an artificial emotion?
tim pool
There's a there's a movie where they invent there's like eyedrops.
Was it a movie or a show?
I don't know.
And then it simulates an experience.
And so like this woman like puts the eyedrops in and then in the span of like 10 minutes, she spends a weekend in Aspen.
And then her business partner is like, I've got a better use for this prison sentences.
lydia smith
That's nice.
tim pool
And then she's like, you can't do this.
And then they fight and then she like pins him down.
And she like, you know, He like puts the drop in her eye and forces her into like a thousand year prison chamber.
It's like all psychological.
So there's literally no way to escape.
ian crossland
You could also make it where it, it, it happened, like you experienced 10 seconds in the metaverse, but when you come out, it's 70 years later in real life.
unidentified
Oh, you'd be dead though.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's a way to like comatose people.
tim pool
So here's a thought.
Here's a thought.
What if your life, your mundane life, where you're trying to live right, you're trying to be a good person, you're resisting all this woke communism garbage.
In reality, you are a woke communist who was involved in some Antifa violence.
And so you were sentenced to rehabilitation, where they make you live a life on the other side to experience violence from them.
So then when you finally come out, you're like, I can't stand those people.
And then you're like, Whoa, I was those people.
Now I get it.
And you've been reprogrammed.
alex stein
Well, it's like Inception.
But I'll be honest, you know, we talk about the prison industry and, you know, a lot of people on the conservative side will say systemic racism doesn't exist.
But for me, I do believe it exists because you look at a lot of the non-violent drug offenders in jail are African-American or black.
So I do think we have a prison system, a private prison industry in America that's a huge business.
It goes along with a lot of the military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
Once again, it's the American people being sold out to corporations to make money.
tim pool
This guy's a liberal.
alex stein
Kinda, and I wouldn't be against universal health care in some form, not necessarily the way they want it, but I'm saying at least less taxes.
There should be a way where people are so afraid.
Tim, I know a lot of people, I'm in the bail bond business, we actually get people out of jail, so that's why prison reform's a big deal to me.
But I know people that are afraid to call an ambulance and will take an Uber to the hospital because they can't afford an ambulance.
So I'm not saying Canada's system's good.
I don't know what system.
I'm not that smart, right?
tim pool
Dude, I took a taxi to the hospital once.
unidentified
Exactly.
alex stein
See?
Right there.
tim pool
I called a cab.
I had a kidney stone and it hit me like all of a sudden, out of nowhere, crippling pain.
And I was like, quick, call Green Cab Uber.
alex stein
Think about that, Tim.
You should have been able to call an ambulance.
tim pool
I agree completely.
And I'm like, dude, $50 in an Uber or $500 in an ambulance?
alex stein
It's more than $500, I believe.
ian crossland
I don't like chronic health care.
Universal health care for chronic stuff.
Like, someone eats too much, you know, sour patch kids.
Universal health care is gonna suck.
alex stein
You know, it's gonna suck, but I just feel like it's a better alternative if a kid breaks his arm instead of some mom being like, yeah, how am I gonna pay for it?
ian crossland
Emergency health care.
Emergency universal health care.
But chronic where it's like, they don't stop eating poison and then they get sick.
It's like, dude, you did that to yourself.
alex stein
I gotta say, at this point, why is diabetes medicine, you know, $170 in America, but in Mexico it's $5?
tim pool
Why is dental care the same thing?
Why is it that all of my ANCAP friends are like, oh, I gotta get my teeth fixed.
I'll be flying to Mexico City or something.
alex stein
Costa Rica.
tim pool
Costa Rica, especially.
mary morgan
Well, they argue that it's cosmetic, not medical.
tim pool
Right.
It's nonsense.
And here's the crazy thing, too.
In Mexico and in Costa Rica, they do this thing where after they do the work on your teeth, they take your own blood and put it over the damaged part of your mouth from the surgery, and it heals way faster.
alex stein
Wow.
tim pool
Your own blood.
It heals you, right?
They don't do that here, as far as I know.
I was talking to somebody, and I looked it up, and I was like, if you go to Costa Rica, it's like a tenth of the price with better treatment.
I'm like, that doesn't make sense.
alex stein
Tim, what doesn't make sense is that we prescribe antidepressants to people that are suicidal.
That makes you more suicidal!
tim pool
I know!
unidentified
It is the first!
alex stein
Freaking side effect in the commercial!
You'll see somebody dancing in a field!
unidentified
Oh, may cause suicidal idolization or idealization!
alex stein
It's like, what?
You're giving that to people that are suicidal?
I mean, isn't that counterintuitive?
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what bothers me about the war machine.
mary morgan
This is why I brought up the war machine.
alex stein
The younger, the better, dude.
They want to get you on it.
The sooner you get on the antidepressants, the better it'll heal you.
But as soon as they came out, mental health issues Skyrocketed!
What are the chances?
ian crossland
I can accept that we have, that there is a war machine that the United States is in control of, but what happens when corporations try to take control of it and poison and subdue the population through other kinds of means, non-violent means, like psychedelic, psychoactive, that's not cool.
I don't want to lose control of the war machine by going after our own people, false flags, Pharmaceutical induction, like that I'm not comfortable with.
I'm down to hold on to the military and make sure that we have a stable planet where the hungry people aren't rioting and destroying everyone else to steal their food.
But man, the pharmaceutical industry pisses me off.
alex stein
Of course, but I do want to say my favorite thing, McDonald's french fries.
So I do, I'm thankful for the genetically modified, uh, you know.
tim pool
McDonald's, I don't understand how people eat McDonald's.
I don't get it.
It's gross, but it's delicious.
No, no, no.
I get Burger King.
I like BK!
mary morgan
Have you had a sausage McGriddle?
tim pool
Yes, I think it's terrible.
There's not a single item at McDonald's I think tastes good.
mary morgan
Tim, they inject the pancake with syrup.
alex stein
I love that method.
tim pool
Listen, Burger King I find delicious, but disgusting.
Wendy's I find delicious and not that bad.
Chick-fil-A, as Lydia pointed out the other day, actually probably the best.
It's like premium stuff.
alex stein
Yeah, but it's not gay enough, so you can't go there.
tim pool
Well, now it is now.
The chickens are gay.
They started supporting all these organizations.
I'm pretty sure.
alex stein
But you talk about Postmates and I want to thank Postmates because they have a bottom-friendly menu and that's so good.
We love the bottom-friendly menu.
tim pool
Thank you, Postmates.
You don't want to poop all over the place.
No, but McDonald's, to me, it's all tastes like plastic and chemicals.
alex stein
Exactly.
And you know, it's created in a lab to do that.
That's why it has a mechanism in your taste buds.
You're like, oh, this is addicting.
And the more you eat McDonald's, the more you crave McDonald's.
tim pool
You know what the worst thing is?
The mayonnaise at McDonald's is like flavorless slime.
Flavorless.
alex stein
Burger King is good.
You see those chicken nuggets, that pink slime?
Ooh, it's delicious when it hits your lips.
Because the chemical reaction in your brain, it's like, you know, almost like crack cocaine.
It causes, you know, a euphoric sensation to some people.
tim pool
You know what I had today?
I had tuna.
alex stein
It's funny, so... You're very trim, though, Tim.
I didn't realize you're in good shape.
tim pool
Well, I lost a lot of weight since November of last year.
I stopped eating sugar, grains, cut out the wheat.
The wheat apparently is like the worst part.
It's inflammatory, I guess.
I'm not a nutritionist.
I don't know a lot.
alex stein
Well, you look good.
tim pool
All I know is I was like, I don't want to eat the bread or the rice or the fried anymore.
So I started eating a lot of chicken wings.
That's like 70% of my diet right now.
alex stein
What, in an air fryer or what?
tim pool
No, just regular chicken wings.
unidentified
But do you bake them?
alex stein
Because you said no fried.
tim pool
I just go to the restaurant and say, give me chicken wings.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
I like old bay wings, like so there's no extra sauce or anything on them.
unidentified
Old Bay rocks.
tim pool
And then for breakfast I've been doing like we have our farm fresh eggs like the chickens poop them out.
I just eat that with like some some like local cheese or something.
mary morgan
People have been talking about how the U.S.
in particular has a very deep like food quality problem compared to the EU because we don't have strict enough regulations.
from the FDA and our regulatory agencies.
tim pool
I think it's the other way around.
mary morgan
Yeah, I think they're too strict.
You think the EU is too strict?
tim pool
No, we are too strict.
alex stein
Yeah.
mary morgan
We are?
tim pool
Yeah, so, uh, so, like, our eggs are, like, what are they, like, stripped, bleached, and, like... Our milk is so processed as well.
Yeah, yeah.
alex stein
Raw milk is illegal in some states.
Come on!
Raw milk is illegal?
mary morgan
That's a crime?
You know what else is illegal?
Uh, wine berries.
lydia smith
That's right!
alex stein
Is that true?
I took a bunch of illegal berries.
Please don't arrest me.
tim pool
No, they're illegal in New York and Connecticut.
ian crossland
What if you ate one here and went back to New York and they're like, it's in your system, isn't it?
We're testing you for wine berries.
mary morgan
Get down!
tim pool
So, uh, yeah, wine raspberries are everywhere.
They're invasive.
They're thick brambles and they grow like crazy and they're delicious, by the way.
People love it.
But in New York and Connecticut, they're illegal to possess.
Or sell, or trade, or whatever.
alex stein
Yeah, but fentanyl's not.
That's decriminalized, so yeah.
tim pool
Well, that's the funny thing.
I'd be willing to bet if you were in New York and you, like, brutally beat someone, they'd let you out of jail.
But if you're caught with wine berries, they'd be like, ooh, serious violation.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, that just shows you the hypocrisy of the rules in New York.
And, you know, a big district, like we said, AOC, who's the queen of New York, you know, people are literally defending their bodegas and going to jail.
tim pool
There's a point that I made the other day.
So we ordered this, like, you can order these, like, food things.
One of the things that we promote on the podcast version of the show is the Moink Box, and it's like farm-fresh meats delivered right to your door.
And so we got one of those, but with seafoods, like scallops, prawns, fish.
And I'm eating this wild, white, Alaskan salmon that is so delicious.
And that's all it is.
You know, it's like lemon pepper on it with some, like, avocado.
alex stein
Tim, do you use an air fryer?
I hope you're using an air fryer.
Do you have an air fryer in this house?
tim pool
Yeah, but I'm not gonna air fry salmon.
alex stein
Actually, they say it's good in there.
I don't eat salmon.
No, I swear.
They say you can air fry it.
It's delicious.
tim pool
What I said was, This is an expensive thing to order, like to order this wild-caught salmon to, like, to your door.
And then I'm like, it's funny.
If you're, like, well off in America, you're eating food quality up here.
If you're middle to lower class, you're eating food quality way down here.
If you live in South America and Africa, you're eating food quality way up here.
It's crazy that the poorest people in the world, not everywhere, not, not, some of them are eating mud.
But there are areas where people have, like, mud huts, but they walk out, catch a fish, and are eating fresh-caught salmon, and that is better quality food than the Mac and Cheese McDonald's stuff that people are eating in this country.
mary morgan
And Americans get sick when they go to countries like that, because they're not used to eating real food.
alex stein
Yeah, but the biggest point that you made in that whole thing is that the middle class is basically getting destabilized.
The middle class is disappearing here in America, and that's what built this country, or I think that's the most important class in this country.
And now they're making it where it's just elites and the super poor.
And so if you don't realize, you can see the forecasting and they're saying, oh, food shortages, energy shortages.
All that does is destabilize the middle class with this massive inflation where people cannot take their kids on a vacation.
They can't afford to feed them in a public restaurant.
tim pool
I think it's a culling.
I'm not saying it's an intentional culling, but there is a culling that is happening to a degree.
With food shortages, with the stress on the supply chain, what we're going to see is the poorest people in the world are going to be left destitute and desperate.
And the elites, the upper class, the people, they don't care.
And you can see this in the voting patterns.
The Democratic Party has become the party that has become more white and more upper class.
The Republican Party has become more working class, more blue collar, and more diverse.
Democrats don't care about talking about inflation.
They don't care about pumping money to the economy.
What they care about is January 6th.
Because they're all, you know, they're in houses that are on the hills.
And the water is rising.
And the people voting for Donald Trump and the people on the ground are watching the water rise around them.
They're freaking out.
The Democrats don't care.
Those people don't vote for us.
alex stein
I'm in an affluent neighborhood in Dallas, and that's what they're called, limousine liberals.
I mean, they're not worried about the massive inflation.
So if you don't think that this social justice lifestyle is basically people on the left that aren't even affected by it, you're wrong.
So you're 100% right when you talk about that.
ian crossland
That's why I brought the war machine earlier, because I feel like I think that we are, and I'll speak for all of us here, from a severely affluent environment where I've never suffered starvation ever in my life.
Never experienced it.
tim pool
Well, I'm not from that.
ian crossland
I've been hungry.
Well, at this stage of your life, you are.
tim pool
At this stage of my life, I am not homeless or hungry.
ian crossland
Were you ever technically starving?
I mean, you may have been hungry.
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
Starving, starvation is when your body's like wasting away kind of thing.
tim pool
And I was.
ian crossland
So that's pretty brutal.
tim pool
Well, you're lucky to have access to oatmeal cream pies.
Some people eat mud, like you said earlier, and are willing to kill for food.
ian crossland
Well, you're lucky to have access to oatmeal cream pies.
Um, some people eat mud, like you said earlier, and are willing to
kill for food, but literally kill and steal.
tim pool
I was like emaciated and I was, uh, you know, I weighed like
139 pounds or whatever.
And then I slowly, you know, clawed my way out of that.
ian crossland
It's brutal.
I lived in New York.
I was living in my car.
I had food stamps, thank God, or I would have.
I was washing my hands with rainwater because I didn't have that.
But nothing like, nothing like the poverty of desperation that will drive people to kill for food and access to water.
So that's why there's a war machine.
I mean, that's part of why there's a war machine is to conquer Rivers and food cropland.
mary morgan
You keep saying war machine.
And you said that it's something that's existed throughout all of human history.
But it sounds like something unique to the modern age and modern warfare.
tim pool
No, no, it's it's just it's it's gets crazy.
It gets crazier and crazier.
So like, in the early days, you'd have a tribe of 30 people and they'd be like, we're running out of food.
Well, I don't want to die.
So they'd all get their weapons and say, then we gotta kill them and take what they have.
And so you'd have warring factions because there were scarce resources.
Europe was crazy with it.
More population, then they needed food, and then people were like, it ain't gonna be me.
So they'd start fighting and they'd try and take land and then take resources.
And we're right.
mary morgan
That's not an apparatus that controls the allocation of resources throughout the entire globe
that we have now.
tim pool
Is that what Ian was referring to?
ian crossland
The war machine is definitely globalized relative to what it used to be.
Rome was pretty powerful in its day.
I think Atlantis before that had like global domination status.
If Atlantis were real, which it very well might not have been.
mary morgan
You can't say that on YouTube.
ian crossland
And there's not a lot of documentation.
tim pool
I love the Flat Earth videos on YouTube.
alex stein
Yeah, they're pretty good.
I mean, you know, it's funny that, you know, those Flat Earth videos, you know, that gets demonized so much, but it's kind of a compelling argument.
mary morgan
You know, the Earth is kind of shaped like a sausage McGriddle.
alex stein
Okay, I have to say this!
unidentified
It gets injected with syrup.
alex stein
We can't get on the flat earth theory, but I do think space is a little... Political?
Well, I'm a moon landing expert because of Joe Rogan.
Let me just tell you something.
The idea that we could get to the Van Allen radiation belts in 1969 through 1972, you know, we went through it twice both ways, is absolutely impossible, yet that same technology that was able to do it then, we accidentally destroyed.
It's a painful process to build it back up again.
tim pool
Like, just because they went through it doesn't mean they went through it right.
You know what I mean?
alex stein
I don't know.
I mean, Neil and Buzz lived for a long time, I'm sure.
tim pool
And maybe they got the best medical treatment, but I remember astronauts saying, it was crazy, I was seeing stars.
It was like, I was there.
And it's like, we know that when you see the sparkles, it's because you're being bombarded with high levels of radiation.
alex stein
So like, Yeah, but have you seen the press conference, Tim, after they came back from the moon?
They look like they were dogs that died.
I don't care what anybody says.
Joe Rogan actually argued two different times on Penn Teller's show that the moon landing was totally fake, made very compelling arguments, and then walked it back.
And I love you, Joe.
I'm just saying.
You know, it is what it is.
And you're going to be like, well, Alex, you know, you're just some conspiracy theorist idiot.
I'm just telling you.
Look at the footage.
tim pool
I think there's a compelling argument as to why they would fake it.
Duh!
But I just also think strapping some dudes to a rocket isn't as complicated as a lot of people think it is.
alex stein
Well, I don't know about that.
I mean, you know, and Trump just even said, you know, he was trolling Elon Musk and said his rockets go nowhere.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, rocket technology, you know, space travel, I'll just be honest with you, you know, what is it pushing off of, you know?
unidentified
And somebody says, oh, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
alex stein
I don't know.
I think space is kind of fake, but what am I going to say?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
I mean, you know, what do I know?
I'm an idiot.
But yeah, what they tell us, you know, I just, I don't think it's true.
ian crossland
I get the feeling, it all snopes you that you're partially true, or partially false, whatever you want to call it, that they did print fake documentation of people on the moon.
Stanley Kubrick, for instance, did video in case they didn't have enough footage from when they went.
tim pool
That's a fact, you know that for sure.
ian crossland
The theory is that it's all faked because Kubrick's footage proves it.
But I think that what they did both, they went there just in case they didn't have enough propaganda to convince people and make them excited that they shot more in a studio, that they were going to interlace.
And some of it may or may not be interlaced, I don't know.
But I don't see evidence that we didn't.
Most of everything in society has told me that we have and that we still do go into space.
alex stein
Well, just Google the fake Michael Collins picture, that they used a picture where they were training and they admitted that it was false.
tim pool
Well, who did?
I don't think it's confirmed in any way that Kubrick directed anything about the moon.
alex stein
No, but he did a movie exactly before it.
tim pool
2001 A Space Odyssey.
alex stein
And, you know, they say in The Shining that, you know, he left clues like, you know, the little kids wearing an Apollo 11 shirt.
I know!
Hey, Tim, I'm a conspiracy theorist.
I'm a tinfoil hat wearer.
So, I mean, I'm just saying.
ian crossland
What about Atlantis?
alex stein
Oh, I don't know.
But, Tim, I think you said, you know, the best point is, like, you know, the government did have an incentive to, you know, lie.
And I'll be honest, when it comes to the government, I don't trust them.
At all.
I don't trust him on anything, so it's hard for me to be like, oh yeah, let me just take your word for it.
tim pool
I'll tell you, take a look at the space feats, accomplishments of the Soviet Union and the United States.
alex stein
They were crushing us.
tim pool
The Soviet Union was crushing us on the one thing we defeated them on was getting to the moon first.
alex stein
Hmm, which is a reason why they would have lied about it to be like, hey, we got there first So but they say that Russia would have exposed us for it But I don't know because you know all these same people or at least accused us of it.
Mm-hmm Yeah, but you know at the end of the day, it's like if you don't think that we're kind of in cahoots with everybody It's like, you know, they want to let me tell you something Vladimir Putin and ruble is the strongest it's ever been So if you don't think that this war is benefiting Russia You know how I know we've been to the moon?
tim pool
Because we came from the moon.
Because the moon is the ark.
And the reason the Russians didn't expose us is because the U.S.
and the Russians are actually both working underneath the moon, people who control... I'm kidding, by the way.
alex stein
Space Force, yeah.
I know, I know.
We need it.
Well, who is... Dianne Feinstein, I think, just said that Space Force is our most important... Need to pull that up.
She just said it.
So these people that, you know, are supposedly socialists...
They want to spend all our money in space.
I'm just saying I think that, you know, it spends a lot of money going and exploring these planets that we could spend here.
It's similar to the war in Ukraine.
We need to help out our citizens.
mary morgan
But the motivation for space exploration is more of a morbid curiosity now compared to an optimism in the past.
tim pool
I think it's great.
The money spent on space travel is spent here.
The people who get the money for space travel get that money, buy things here, and expand the economy.
And the technology developed from space travel has widely improved the lives of people all over the world.
unidentified
Velcro?
alex stein
What space technology is improved?
Plastics.
You don't think they would have invented plastics without space?
tim pool
Either way, there are programs, but also we're looking at mining asteroids, which is... Oh, sure.
alex stein
We're gonna get diamonds from asteroids.
Come on.
Titanium.
You know, did you see that they just found enough diamonds or gold, I think, in Africa?
You know, trillions of dollars worth of gold in Africa.
So, you know, these... Yeah, where was that?
tim pool
Congo or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
So, you know, they say these precious materials, oh, there's old resin, you know, Yeah, like I said earlier, we have enough oil and gas reserves in Texas, you know, to support the whole world.
But listen, listen.
tim pool
If we can get to the moon with a mining operation, we can access the lost ancient technology of the Ark.
As a movie that just came out.
alex stein
Of course, of course.
I'm just saying, you know, the government, I trust them with every decision that they make.
And you saw Bill Clinton was recently on James Corden's show and said, like, Area 51 was not aliens or whatever.
It's kind of like this.
There's a guy, Warner Von Braun, who was actually brought over in a thing called Operation Paperclip.
And Wernher von Braun, he designed the rockets that actually, you know, killed a lot of people in World War II.
And we brought him over and we gave him immunity and let him create the NASA program.
tim pool
And you know what he said?
About the rockets in World War II?
They performed wonderfully.
They just landed on the wrong planet.
alex stein
Well, exactly.
But my point being is he even said to get to the moon, you need rockets about twice the size of the Empire State Building.
And Wernher von Braun said that, and there's multiple... Yeah, but like that's a really long time ago.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
alex stein
So they you tell me let me just compare a 1969 Lincoln to a 2022 Lincoln which is a you know has more technology
tim pool
The modern one what?
alex stein
Yeah, so do you think technology goes backwards?
How did our space technology, I'm saying our technology in 1969, how does it go backwards?
We cannot go to the moon today.
NASA admits it.
We cannot travel 237,000 miles.
Where do they say that?
To the moon.
What are you talking about?
We cannot have manned spaceflight through the Van- Google this!
Google, uh, cannot go through Van Allen radiation belt right now.
It'll come up.
And NASA will say, Google, cannot go through Van Allen radiation belt.
It should come up, um, right on YouTube.
And it's like a person saying, oh, uh, you know, we were trying to develop technology to go to the moon, but we can't do it now.
So we don't have the technology now, Tim, to spin, to send a human through the Van Allen radiation belt.
Yet we were able to do it in 1969.
So it's the only technology.
tim pool
Where did, where did NASA say that?
unidentified
Go to videos, go to videos, click videos.
alex stein
And you'll see, it's probably, you know, obviously it gets all, it's like a woman talking about
it and she says we cannot go to the Van Allen radiation belts now.
Type in NASA too, put NASA in the search.
But my point being is, if this video exists, somebody will be able to find it.
tim pool
Yeah, but are you talking about like a single individual or there's like-
alex stein
We cannot go to the moon, Tim.
That's a fact.
NASA admits that.
I think you're wrong.
Tim, I'm not.
Listen, I'm telling you, there's multiple videos saying, we cannot go to the moon.
I'm telling you, that's an official story from NASA.
ian crossland
Is that like you can't eat raw milk?
alex stein
No.
ian crossland
The kind of thing where they've decided it's too dangerous for you, so now you can't do it?
alex stein
Here, I'll find the video.
ian crossland
Can't and shouldn't are two different things.
alex stein
I'm telling you, NASA today cannot go to the moon.
Yet in 1969 through 1972, a technology that we accidentally destroyed.
Pull up a picture of the lunar lander right now.
If you want to believe me, just type in picture of the lunar lander.
tim pool
Well let's start, we'll start here and then we'll keep moving forward.
So I'm trying to find out where NASA said we cannot get to the Van Allen.
I found a Forbes article saying we actually can from seven years ago.
alex stein
Yeah, but let me, I gotta find it.
I should have had this pulled up.
Five years ago, sorry.
It's just, there's so many videos I gotta, now my service is terrible, but I'm telling you, Tim, we gotta find the video where it says, it's very clear, they say we cannot go through the event.
Go to YouTube right now.
Go to YouTube.
tim pool
Well, let me read this real quick.
So this is, this is them saying, what is it?
There were 0.38 rad getting the radiation dose of getting to CT blah blah the atmosphere can be a danger but they made it through it.
The Apollo trips we wanted to send the astronauts through a sparse region of the belts and try to get through them quickly.
So, yeah, I don't know.
alex stein
Tim, the farthest we can go, according to them, is the International Space Station, which is roughly about 200... But who's them?
tim pool
Who's them?
I don't know.
alex stein
NASA is roughly about 200 miles from the surface of Earth.
We cannot go past low Earth... Oh, type in, type in, cannot go past low Earth orbit Barack Obama.
Type that in right now.
Low Earth orbit Barack... I'm not trying to be bossy.
unidentified
You just said you didn't believe the government.
alex stein
Well, of course, but now go to the video.
Now click videos.
tim pool
Click videos.
alex stein
It ought to be the first one that aggregates to the top.
tim pool
He says, for the United States, the leading space-faring nation for nearly half a century to be without carriage to low-Earth orbit and with no human exploration capability to go beyond Earth orbit.
alex stein
No capability to go beyond low-Earth orbit!
The moon is 237,000 miles important to them!
That's past low-Earth orbit!
tim pool
You're reading it wrong.
alex stein
No, type in Barack Obama!
tim pool
I've got the quote right here, literally.
It's right here in a quote.
He says, and with no human exploration capability to go beyond Earth orbit for an indeterminate time into the future, destines our nation to become one of second or even third rate stature.
He's not saying we've never had the capabilities and we currently don't.
alex stein
Please type in video.
Just listen to what Barack Obama has to say because you're going to get all this stuff.
And that's not it.
The third one down.
The third one down.
unidentified
Third one down.
alex stein
Go down.
Third one down.
unidentified
This one.
alex stein
Yes.
You got it, you got it.
tim pool
This video right here?
alex stein
Yes.
barack obama
So let me start by being extremely clear.
tim pool
Clear.
barack obama
I am 100% committed to the mission of NASA and its future.
alex stein
Because... This is a minute long video, but there's a shorter one where he says it, but we can watch it.
You might want to play it on 1.5 speed.
barack obama
Because broadening our capabilities in space will continue to serve our society in ways that we can seriously measure.
Because exploration will once more inspire wonder in a new generation, sparking passions and launching careers.
And because ultimately, if we fail to press forward in the pursuit of discovery, we are ceding our future, and we are ceding that essential element of the American character.
I know there have been a number of questions raised about my administration's plan for space exploration, especially In this part of Florida, where so many rely on NASA as a source of income, as well as a source of pride and community, we start by increasing NASA's budget by $6 billion over the next five years.
By buying the services of space transportation rather than the vehicles themselves, we can continue to ensure rigorous safety standards are met, but we will also accelerate the pace of innovations as companies, from young startups to established leaders, compete to design and build and launch new means of carrying people and materials out of our atmosphere.
Yes, pursuing this new strategy will require that we revise the old strategy.
In part, this is because the old strategy, including the Constellation program, was not fulfilling its promise in many ways.
That's not just my assessment.
alex stein
Okay, they edited it out.
You gotta go to the, you gotta click back, go to YouTube, and you're gonna see a short
version.
Type in Barack Obama low Earth orbit.
You gotta go to YouTube.
unidentified
Barack Obama.
tim pool
Low Earth orbit.
alex stein
Low Earth orbit.
And there'll be like a ten second clip of him saying it.
That we cannot go through.
That's him speaking.
We gotta go down.
You gotta see.
It's that speech there.
He says you cannot go through low Earth orbit.
I promise you, dude.
I mean, it's just kind of annoying.
I mean, I read the quote where he said... No, but you have to hear him say it because he doesn't say that quote.
He does not say that.
He says it much different.
He says we do not have the ability to go through.
tim pool
But it can't even reach low Earth orbit?
I mean, we have a transcript right here, right?
alex stein
I'm just saying, I mean, you know, you call me a conspiracy theorist, but this is Barack Obama saying... A few people... You know, the same people that typed this transcript are the ones that said that Joe Biden didn't say... Sure.
tim pool
He says, sure, it's comfortable, but it can't even reach low Earth orbit, and that obviously is in striking contrast to the Falcon 9 rocket we just saw on the launch pad, which will be tested for the very first time.
I mean, here's the issue, like, anything they don't want shared, we're not gonna be able to just Google search, you know what I mean?
alex stein
Well, but on YouTube there's a lot of conspiracy.
Go to YouTube and then type in Upload Date.
Type in Barack Obama Low Earth Orbit and then type in Upload Date.
And then it ought to be one of the first ones.
Type in Barack Obama Low Earth Orbit.
tim pool
There it is.
Recent search suggestion.
alex stein
It'd be a really short one.
And did you do it by upload date?
Uh, search by upload date.
tim pool
Where is that?
alex stein
To the right, to the right.
unidentified
To the right?
tim pool
Upload date?
And we want to go from reverse?
alex stein
Yeah, well you want to go downwards, that's sure.
I think it's maybe that nine second one up there.
Obama says we can't go.
tim pool
Nine second one?
alex stein
This one?
What does that say?
Next date?
unidentified
Yeah, this is it.
barack obama
Early in the next decade, a set of crewed flights will test and prove the systems required
for exploration beyond low Earth orbit.
alex stein
In the next decade.
tim pool
But I don't think you understand what that means.
And second of all, this is a nine second out of context clip.
alex stein
Well, you can watch the whole context.
I'm just saying he admits today with the technology where you can fact check me all you want.
He says today that we cannot go through low Earth orbit.
We cannot take manned flight.
Barack Obama said it.
Right.
tim pool
The technology doesn't exist.
It means we don't we don't we don't have it.
We don't fund it.
alex stein
We don't have it yet.
at 1969 through 1972. So you're telling me technology goes backwards, Tim. You actually
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
believe that? Yes. Like, there was a long period they wondered how the Romans did concrete
underwater, right?
For a long period, we couldn't build Skyscraper.
alex stein
You're comparing spaceflight with concrete, Tim.
tim pool
Okay.
How do they build the pyramids?
alex stein
Well, I'm just saying, we can't rebuild the pyramids, right?
tim pool
We can, and we know how, because I've read about the construction of the pyramids.
alex stein
Oh, you've got to be kidding.
tim pool
These Freemasons, I'm just saying... So now you're saying it does go backwards.
alex stein
Well, exactly.
My point being, though, not spaceship.
tim pool
It's really simple.
We had a reason to go to the moon when we were in the Cold War.
Afterwards, we abandoned the projects and abandoned the rockets, and they fell into disrepair, and no one cares anymore.
Now, we have no real reason to build and expand in that direction, or we don't have companies that want to do it, nor do we have the government wanting to do it, and in 2010, Barack Obama was saying, we need to start building the machines to do this.
alex stein
But we don't have the machines today.
You admit that, right?
tim pool
I don't know.
Based on what he said twelve years ago, we did not have machines capable of doing it.
That doesn't mean the technology didn't exist.
alex stein
But we did in 1969.
tim pool
It means they did not build them.
And Barack Obama is literally saying in these videos, we're going to put six billion dollars into NASA to build these, to do these things.
alex stein
And we can't go today.
They keep saying we're going to go to the moon.
And let me tell you something, you know this as a successful businessman, it would be the biggest marketing tool in the world if they were able to go to the moon.
Yeah, we can't.
tim pool
But I don't understand why you're saying we can't.
Elon Musk is currently building starships to go to Mars.
alex stein
Okay, Google if Elon Musk says we can go to the moon.
We can't.
tim pool
Elon Musk is saying we can go to Mars, but we can't go to the moon?
Exactly.
alex stein
We cannot send manned spacecraft.
They can say they can send a rover.
tim pool
Elon Musk said on Twitter like a week ago, you will see men on Mars in our lifetime.
alex stein
He also wants to put a computer chip in your brain to be able to park your Tesla.
tim pool
That's a morality question, but not a question of the possibility of the spaceships.
unidentified
Well, you guys can believe the moon landing all you want, but it's so fake.
alex stein
And the government.
I mean, it's so fake.
ian crossland
For the record, if Barack Obama said, we do not have a base on the moon, I would immediately think, we probably have a base on the moon.
tim pool
There was a skit about that.
Who did that?
It was the whitest kids you know.
Have you seen that one?
No.
He's like, there are bears on the moon, and they're like, did you submit there?
alex stein
That was a great sketch.
tim pool
And then someone goes, are we invading Iran?
And he goes, you got me.
You got me.
alex stein
Okay, last thing, because then we'll get off the moon, because people are going to get so mad at me.
Just type in a picture of the Lunar Lander, please.
tim pool
Lunar lander, huh?
alex stein
Yeah, just type in a picture of it because I want you to show you this great technology.
Now type in images.
Now I want you to, you know, look at that thing and you tell me that.
So you know the idea of the lunar lander is that they were able to go, what happened was is we were able to send a craft to the moon, get in the moon's orbit, then Michael Collins stayed in the craft and then that thing was able to escape from the spacecraft and it was able to land on the moon Then, Buzz and Neil were able to take a car out of there and drive it around and play golf on the moon, Tim.
This is an official story.
They actually snuck a golf club.
Google snuck a golf club on the moon.
So, you're telling me NASA, with technology, you're able to just, oh, bring your own bag, you know?
Yet, on an airplane, if your bag weighs over 40 pounds, you can't even take it on.
But these guys can take a golf... That analogy makes no sense.
Well, I'm saying, it's the joke, is the fact that they can just bring stuff on the most intense mission we've ever been on.
But look at this technology.
You see that?
You see how that's held together?
Does that not look like 2022 technology?
tim pool
I don't understand what you think is wrong with it.
alex stein
I'm saying that is the fakest looking crap I've ever seen in my life!
That's garbage!
Well, you gotta zoom in on it!
Look at that!
What is that, tinfoil?
And what is that?
tim pool
It literally is foil, yes.
alex stein
Okay, and that's paper.
And this is according to them.
You can Google this.
And when they were doing the, you know, practicing for the mission, that if they dropped a tool that it was so thin, the tool would fall through.
Through what?
Through the, whatever you want to call it, the walls of the lunar lander.
You can Google this.
Tools would break through the wall of the lunar lander.
Look at that.
That is tape, Tim.
That's space tape, bud.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
Do you know they put duct tape on airplanes?
unidentified
Okay, you're comparing the moon to airplanes.
tim pool
When I worked at O'Hare, passengers would freak out all the time watching mechanics put duct tape.
And they would be like, oh, oh, oh!
alex stein
Okay, so why can't we recreate that then if it's just tape?
tim pool
Who says we can't recreate it?
alex stein
Because we can't go to the moon today!
tim pool
Why can't, who says that?
alex stein
Barack Obama!
tim pool
Okay, you're conflating the lack of funding and motivation with the lack of technology.
alex stein
Tim, you don't think they're motivated to go to the moon?
You're kidding me, bud.
tim pool
For what?
What's on the moon?
alex stein
Because it could be a marketing technique.
tim pool
Oh yeah, let's spend $50 billion to market.
When we were at war, I get it.
alex stein
They gave $80 billion to the Ukraine to fight a war.
tim pool
We can't get people to fund real journalism.
alex stein
But we can get all this money to go to Ukraine?
Come on.
tim pool
Right!
You can get money for a war.
You can't get money for journalism.
Why would you get money for a moon mission?
alex stein
Tim, explain to me, where did the car come out of that machine?
tim pool
I'd have to research.
I think you're wrong about everything you've already presented.
alex stein
No, I'm not.
I'm right.
tim pool
You can't come here and be like, the car came out of that, and have me just assume you're right.
unidentified
It did!
alex stein
Well, okay, type in the moon landing rover, and look at the car.
tim pool
Just look at that jeep frame.
Yeah, I've seen it.
alex stein
Yeah, a Jeep frame.
They were able to, in a machine, in that thing, they were able to pop out a Jeep and drive around and play golf.
tim pool
You can make a lot of assumptions, and I would argue there is a good reason why the U.S.
would fake such a thing, but none of what you've presented is actually evidence that you're right.
It's conjecture based on out-of-context quotes, and it does nothing for me to believe you.
Now you might be right.
alex stein
You don't have to believe me.
I'm just saying you can, you know, you can just believe the government.
I mean, you know, that's sort of, you know, that's the deal.
mary morgan
You don't have to believe either though.
alex stein
I'm just saying, the technology in 1969... I'll tell you one of the weakest points.
But think about their batteries.
tim pool
I'll tell you one of the weakest issues.
The foil on the Lander right here.
I actually know a little about and I understand the concept of using lightweight reflective foil.
Mylar, for instance.
You seem to not understand that, so when you say that it's a red flag for me being like, well if you don't understand that, I would assume the likelihood of the rest of your arguments are incorrect.
alex stein
Well, listen, I'm not saying that, you know, you can't say that, you're allowed to have an opinion, but I'm just saying, if you actually do the research, you actually look into it, like your buddy Joe Rogan did for a long time, you can pretty much find all the holes in the story of the moon mission.
tim pool
It's just laughable, and I know we're, you know, we're kind of going on a tangent, and you're going to say... No, for sure, like, I tried looking up, and granted, there's the issue of Google suppresses things, so it's like, not easy to be like, I'm going to Google it and we can prove that it's a real thing.
But all I can say is this.
I don't know about the things you're saying.
Nothing that I've pulled up has actually confirmed what you've been saying.
alex stein
Okay, type in this.
tim pool
More importantly, I want to make the point.
When I understand the concept of mylar or lightweight reflective foil and you don't, it's a red flag for me.
alex stein
It's not even about that because the foil they said was so thin that a tool could fall through.
tim pool
That's a fact.
I've actually gone to labs for jet propulsion and saw them working on these things.
I actually have a video of a rocket test at X-Core in the Mojave Desert, and I watched them fly a rocket plane.
So when I actually sit down with rocket engineers and machinists who are building these parts, who explain these things to me, and I know even the tiniest bit as like a layman who's like, oh, I heard about that, and then you say something that's completely incorrect, I say, okay.
alex stein
Well, what did I say incorrectly?
That's foil?
That's space foil?
tim pool
You acted like the foil was somehow proof that didn't make sense.
alex stein
I'm just saying that does not look like very advanced technology to me.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying it doesn't make sense.
tim pool
Because you're basing your view on like sci-fi movies.
alex stein
No, I'm looking and using common sense that that looks like it's held together by literal tape.
And the issue is... I'm right that it's tape.
tim pool
You're wrong about foil and you don't know anything else about it.
alex stein
Okay, well type in this.
Just type in astronauts hands injured from the spacesuit.
So multiple... yes, well I'm just saying.
tim pool
We're not going to get it done in half an hour.
alex stein
I know, OK.
This is the last thing.
But this is the last thing I want to say.
And this is a fact.
Multiple astronauts, when they came back, in the pictures, they had scars on their hands.
So this technology that was so incredible.
And on the moon, in the sunlight, it's 200 degrees.
In the shade, it goes to instantly negative 200 degrees.
Now, you can talk about the space technology We cannot even recreate the suits.
And on top of that, back then, these suits, the most magical suits on Earth, with one battery, that can go change 400 degrees an instant, listen, was not even able to get the thumb mechanism right for multiple hours.
How do you know that?
Because there's astronauts that admitted that they had thumb injuries when they came back.
tim pool
So, the problem with conspiracy theories is that you choose to believe some narratives but not others.
alex stein
I believe all the narratives!
It's fake!
That's all I'm saying!
So, so if... They can't get the glove right, then they can't get a battery technology that can make a suit change instantly 400 degrees.
tim pool
The problem with conspiracy theories is that you've made a determination, and now you agree with the evidence that backs your determination.
alex stein
Well, that's with everything, right?
I mean, you take- No, no, no, I don't have that position.
tim pool
My position is, I don't know.
Well, I mean, I do know that we didn't- I know that you're like, you acted like the foil was an incorrect thing and having actually- I didn't say it's incorrect, I said it looks like garbage.
alex stein
It looks like space shite.
tim pool
And you're wrong.
Right?
I'm wrong!
alex stein
What do you mean I'm wrong?
You think that that looks good to you?
tim pool
The foil, specifically, is a red flag in your argument because you don't understand it.
alex stein
Okay, other than the foil, what is that?
What is that material?
tim pool
I don't know.
alex stein
All I know is... What's the material next to that?
ian crossland
Thermal blanket compromised of 25 layers of Kapton tape, gold leaf.
There's data about it we could read into.
tim pool
Right, so let me stress this point because I don't think you're getting it.
I don't know anything about the lander.
You don't either.
alex stein
I know a little bit.
tim pool
You looked at it and said, that does not look right.
I said, okay, actually, I've been to a jet propulsion laboratory in the Mojave, where I watched them do tests, and they explained to me heat resistance, return, all that stuff.
alex stein
You're comparing apples and oranges, but okay.
tim pool
So you're misunderstanding.
My point is, when I've actually gone to a spaceport, Yeah.
look at this stuff and have witnessed the test of it and actually flights of the of
the they didn't do the rocket test when they went in space in the in the rocket plane they
just flew it around uh and then you come out and say that looks wrong to me i'm like okay
well you're missing key context here no so i'm not going to take your narrative which
is based on conjecture don't believe me That's the first thing I want to say.
alex stein
I'm not a role model.
Do not ever believe me.
I just think we should question the reality in which we live in.
And there's a lot of unanswered questions with this.
When you talk about the original footage that they accidentally deleted.
You know, they recorded over all the telemetry data.
tim pool
Someone said you were wrong.
The rover was not on the first mission.
ian crossland
It was on 15, 16, and 17.
Apollo 15, 16, and 17.
tim pool
So this actually... See, you were wrong, and that's the problem I have.
Yeah, but I... You said, where's the rover on that?
You were wrong, there wasn't a rover on that.
alex stein
Yeah, but look at the Lunar Lander with a rover.
Look at that.
Look how fake that looks.
I'm just saying, it doesn't pass the smell test, and you don't want to give it the smell test because, you know, you're red, white, and blue all day long.
ian crossland
I wouldn't be surprised if NASA and the government Opted to throw false information out there so that other people couldn't recreate their process just like with Area 51 They told people there were little green men in the stuff too So if someone went rogue and wanted to spill the beans, they're gonna sound like a crazy person
alex stein
Well, I'm just saying, guys, you know, you can believe the landing on the moon.
mary morgan
I don't think you're wrong to cast doubt on it, but you are saying with certainty that we didn't do the moon landing.
alex stein
Well, I don't know a lot of stuff.
mary morgan
Do you know it?
alex stein
In my heart, I know, and that's all that matters, because you know what?
We get to choose the reality.
tim pool
You're hard to believe.
alex stein
In my heart, I believe, and I believe that I'm a thousand percent right.
But we can debate the moon landing all day long.
I do debate people on it, but I'm not even trying to debate you, Tim, because I like you and I appreciate your opinion.
tim pool
Oh, I thought it was fun.
I thought it was fun.
alex stein
No, it is fun.
And on a serious note, though, I'm just saying, you can watch a little documentary by Bart Sabrell, Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, and when he confronted the astronauts, he asked them to swear on a Bible whether they went to the moon.
None of them did.
And so regardless, you can believe that we went to the moon and that we lost that technology and it's a painful process to build it back up again.
Don Pettit, a NASA astronaut, is the exact person that said it.
And I believe less than 120 people have even been to space.
So the idea that they could fake it, you know, I think... So here's a point.
tim pool
There was a period where we only built buildings up to eight floors because the heat accumulation at the highest floor was too intense and we had limited technology preventing it.
We invented window air conditioners.
And all of a sudden we could now expand with window air conditioning units as well as centralized
unidentified
units.
tim pool
Now we could actually sustain buildings all the way up because we could funnel the heat out the sides.
The funny thing is there are ancient cultures that would build structures
that would guide heat out of the structure of the building.
alex stein
Oh yeah, I've seen that. Yeah.
tim pool
It was not necessarily a lost technology, but kind of was.
It was amazing.
alex stein
I was watching this documentary about... But we lost the technology in 50 years, Tim.
This is in the thousands of years, like the pyramids is my point.
tim pool
I just don't see it as being impractical that having no reason, no commercial purpose, the government stops funding it, people stop funding it, and then they're like, where's the old documents and the construction for it?
alex stein
They did lose all the old documents and they lost the plans for building it.
So they just lose that?
It'd be like saying, oh, we lost the constitution.
You know, it's literally America's greatest technological achievement and we just accidentally control to deleted it.
tim pool
I wouldn't say accidentally control deleted it, I just think there's a possibility that without any support, we stopped doing it.
alex stein
Also, like, if I had a brilliant weapon... Cognitive dissonance, but, you know, we'll disagree to disagree.
tim pool
I think it's your cognitive dissonance.
If I had an amazing weapon... You want so hard to believe it's not real, whereas I'm asserting nothing.
alex stein
No, no, no, that's not necessarily true.
I wish you actually went to the moon, I just hate that we didn't, that's my point.
tim pool
And see, so my position is...
There is limited evidence that we did, and conjecture.
You have an official narrative, and you have a counter-narrative.
And I say, I don't know.
There's a motivation to fake it.
But there's also, rocketry's been around for a while, and we have ICBMs, they're very powerful, and we have tons of explanations as to how we can and have done it.
You've not presented any hard evidence.
alex stein
I've presented a lot of evidence, but I wonder if I'm wrong.
tim pool
No, you haven't.
There's no literal evidence.
You have conjecture.
alex stein
Okay, conjecture, whatever.
I presented a lot of conjecture.
tim pool
You've asserted a belief based on what you've read, which is believing some narratives, but not believing others, with no basis.
alex stein
But you're comparing like the technology of some jet, you know, to what we were able to do in 1969-1970.
Didn't you just say you went to Jet Propulsion Lab, or what did you say you went for?
tim pool
These are rocket engines.
alex stein
Oh, excuse me, rocket engines.
tim pool
Right, this is rocket propulsion.
Yeah.
So, jet propulsion, I wonder why they went out of business.
I don't think they exist anymore.
I watched them do a rocket test.
alex stein
I wonder why they went out of business.
tim pool
Because rocket planes are impractical.
The idea of a rocket plane is Los Angeles to London in two hours by entering outer space
and then dropping down.
You go straight up, then you go through space where you can travel super fast.
Then you ran to the atmosphere by spiraling down.
And it's just, it's prohibitively expensive.
So it was invested in and they ultimately said, no one's really gonna want to spend the money to travel this way.
It's not that hard to fly in a plane for 12 hours.
So that's why that ended.
So when I go to a lab and I see these things, I say, oh, that's interesting.
That lines up with other things I've seen in the past.
Still, I'll entertain the possibility they did fake it.
I just, I think it's less likely And I don't know.
ian crossland
Well, it's possible they did it and then they were like, yeah, by the way, it's impossible to do.
So no one tries to do it.
Like they don't want other people to try and do it.
They want to disincentivize that they want to be the leaders.
So they're going to pretend like it's impossible.
alex stein
Well, listen, we can, you know, it's funny, I get my... We'll read Super Chats, otherwise... Yeah, no, but I, yeah, and I agree, and it's funny, because I, you know, I finally get on TimCast, and then we have to go full tinfoil hat, but I am Primetime99, the host of The Conspiracy Castle, and you're welcome to sub to that on YouTube.
Yeah, that's my, it's called The Conspiracy Castle.
But what I'm saying is, and that was actually before you called it Cast Castle, but that's neither here nor there.
What I'm saying is, that's neither here nor there.
My point being is, do not believe me.
Do your own research.
It's out there.
You can look into it.
And I don't have my computer here.
If I had my computer, I could be, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
My internet service is not that great because, you know, we are out in the sticks.
But my point being is, Tim, I respect your opinion, and I think that you're trying to hold my feet to the fire, and I appreciate that.
But at the same time, I only encourage people to do, excuse me, I always encourage people to do their own research, including you, which you should listen to tonight.
Joe Rogan on the Penn Taylor Show, arguing about the moon landing, because he is your bestie.
tim pool
Let's read some super chats.
We got, White Owl says, Tim, why are you so anti-big booty Latina?
alex stein
That's true, dude.
You gotta be more pro-big booty Latina.
Why?
The bigger the booty.
Hey, and you know, on a serious note though, you know, actually the Latin community does have a diabetes problem.
So if you're out there and you do have a big booty, go walk around a little bit.
I do not want you to get diabetes because insulin here in America is extremely expensive.
ian crossland
Fasting also can be extremely valuable if you look into that as well.
alex stein
And it is his spiritual value as well.
tim pool
Kyle Schmidt says she only got mad because he used Latina instead of Latinx.
alex stein
That's fair.
tim pool
Latinx.
mary morgan
Classic mistake.
alex stein
It is fair.
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All right.
tim pool
Let's grab some more superchats.
Andrew Starr says if you act ridiculous, it will show how ridiculous the system is and will become in order to push its boot on your neck.
mary morgan
Yes, you're kind of like the Joker.
alex stein
I am.
I am a little bit like the Joker I do with a smile on my face.
Well, you know, you know, I feel like I've nothing to lose.
You know, I lost the most important person in my life, my mother.
So what I'm saying is I kind of do sometimes feel like the Joker.
Like, I got nothing to lose.
I'm saying I'm fearless because when I walked into a room and watched my mom die, it said, it kind of just showed me that I saw and went through the toughest thing that I'll ever go through.
So I can compare any situation, literally any situation, I can compare it to that and think, well, this is a piece of cake.
So confronting a politician or going in sort of some meeting and getting all the attention on me is nothing as bad as holding my hands, holding my mom's hand when she died.
So yeah, I kind of am a little hardened by that.
tim pool
That might be a good thing.
Raymond Maga G says, Tim, come on man, let's be honest about the facts.
Every vlog skit starring Ian, aka Langston Stewart Jr. III, he steals the show every time.
ian crossland
That might be a good thing. Unless I'm a supporting character.
unidentified
All right, let's see.
tim pool
Curtis Terry says, Tim, getting introduced to you and Dan Bongino around the same time in 2016 literally saved my life.
So, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
That being said, I stood up for my principles and against bullying and lost my job.
I got kids.
Quit pushing fake news receipts on Twitter.
Quit pushing fake news?
What is that a reference to?
alex stein
Who knows?
tim pool
Receipts on Twitter.
Sorry, sorry to hear it, man, but a tremendous respect for you standing up for what you believe
in.
There are risks.
What was it?
We read this.
I was reading this Plato quote.
It was we talked about the one where it said the penalty for being indifferent to public
affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
But there was another one I read where it said like it's maybe you guys know who this
quote's from.
It's like sooner or later, you'll have to fight for what you're sooner or later, there
will be a fight for your principles and values.
It can be you, it can be your children, or it can be your grandchildren.
Better for it to be you.
lydia smith
Yeah, somebody said that.
They said, better that it be me than my children.
That's a founding father.
tim pool
Yeah, something like that.
Rocketsaw says this is for Langston Stewart Jr.
III.
Dope is for dopes.
ian crossland
Keep it up!
tim pool
Dope is for dopes.
ian crossland
You guys gotta check out Cass Castle.
If you're not in on the joke, you will be.
mary morgan
As the Super Chatter said today, Ian is our favorite Nixon conservative.
unidentified
Oh, you.
tim pool
Alright.
What do we got here?
alex stein
Do you read all of them?
Does it matter how much they pay for the ones that are more expensive?
You tend to grab it?
tim pool
I try not to not to just get the big ones.
It's a mix, right?
alex stein
You don't want your socialist supercharger.
tim pool
Yes, because some people can't afford to give a hundred bucks, but they make good points.
Some people will give a lot of money making really bad points, intentionally hoping that the amount of money will make me read something that is like not good.
Some people will try and promote stuff and use it as an advertisement, and within reason, we'll read some of them.
You know, for the most part, I'm, like, going through and I'm, like, reading the ones, and I really am- I always try to find, like, the good questions and the good points, not to, like, say that, you know, people shouldn't, you know, like, I won't read as- you know, but I read some that are inane and just, we'll grab what we can.
But I- but I- usually I want, like, good questions, right?
alex stein
Of course.
lydia smith
Yeah, so before we move on, I just want to read this quote real quick because it's really good and I'm glad you brought it up.
This is from Thomas Paine.
It said, I prefer peace, but if trouble must come, let it come in my time so that my children can live in peace.
tim pool
The quote I mentioned was a different quote from someone else.
lydia smith
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
They said there will be a fight.
It will be fought either by you, your children, or their grandchildren.
It is better that it's you or something like that.
alex stein
And we're in that fight.
It's called the culture war.
unidentified
Yeah, 100%.
tim pool
Kefka says, the taking down of the American flag is the act of tearing down the statue.
Will of the people is for the cycle to continue.
Interesting.
alex stein
And the American flag is kind of considered a hate symbol by the people on the left.
tim pool
Remember when those shoes got canceled that had the original flag on them?
lydia smith
Betsy Ross flag.
tim pool
Yeah, the Betsy Ross flag.
alex stein
They got what, for as a hate speech?
tim pool
It was like offensive, so Nike apologized and pulled the shoe or something.
alex stein
My favorite shoe was the little Nas X shoe that had blood in it.
That was my favorite.
I tried to wear them, but I can't wear them.
tim pool
You still got them?
Whose blood was it?
alex stein
Baby's blood.
No, I don't know.
I'm just kidding.
I don't know.
tim pool
How many did they make, you know?
alex stein
Well, it was actually a third-party thing.
They took old backstock shoes and did it so it ended up being kind of a... I thought it was supposed to be his own blood.
Something like that.
tim pool
How much blood did he get?
alex stein
It was supposed to be one drop of blood.
tim pool
Into all of the paint?
alex stein
Yeah.
Something like that.
I mean, who knows?
Come on.
Fake news.
tim pool
All right.
Ken Ballard says, how different would our world be if Trump ran as a Democrat in 2016 and won?
P.S.
Ian did great in the recent Castcastle video.
alex stein
They're loving you, Ian.
They're loving you.
ian crossland
It was a big deal.
You should join us someday.
unidentified
I know.
alex stein
I'm down.
I know.
tim pool
Let's do it.
Oh, yeah.
We should definitely.
Where are you based out of?
alex stein
Dallas.
tim pool
Dallas.
We got to get you on the vlog.
alex stein
Let's go!
Project 99!
I want to freaking... I'm moving in.
I'm sleeping up here tonight.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
tim pool
Dylan Elliott says, hey Tim, what are your thoughts on the fact that a second civil war will take place in an age of nuclear weapons?
What do you think of the possibility of a second civil war ending with portions of the U.S.
witnessing the penultimate form of devastation?
It would be tactical.
It wouldn't be like ICBMs or anything like that.
It's not just about nuclear weapons.
It's about biological weapons, too.
It's about a whole lot of things.
alex stein
It's about cyber warfare.
I know.
I hear you talk about the Civil War a lot, but I think the only way that happens is if they do repeal the Second Amendment and take away our guns.
What do you think would be the—and just in your opinion, what would be the— You can't take away guns.
I agree, but I'm saying what do you think would be the straw that would break the camel's back that would make people go on the street and start shooting each other?
tim pool
It's not gonna be like that.
It's gonna be, what I think is the highest probability would be local militiamen blocking highway roads.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
And it could start with like 10 people.
And it could escalate into trucks with California plates are barred from entering Texas because let's say a woman in Texas gets pregnant.
Her husband says, they're married, and the husband's like, this is great, we're gonna have our third child.
She says, I don't want a third child.
he says, well, honey, you're pregnant and we live in Texas and I want this child. And
she says, okay, in the dead of night, she packs a bag, she flies to Colorado and she
gets an abortion. Texas says she broke the law and she murdered the child of one of our
residents. She kidnapped the child, killed it in another state where we recognize that
as murder.
The husband is freaked out and angry and distraught. And so you end up with a conflict. The feds
refuse to get involved. Then trucks from Colorado tried delivering goods and local militiamen
are like, you are murderers who killed one of our citizens.
Turn your truck around.
Trade disruptions start.
Then that's the kind of thing that snowballs and you'll end up then with like a truck comes in and a couple and then the guy in the truck gets out and says, you're not law enforcement.
Get out of here.
Don't point that gun at me.
Fighting breaks out.
Someone dies.
Then state law enforcement from Texas says to Colorado, now your guys are shooting at our guys.
The Feds refuse to get involved.
Then Texas says, we're going to send people to extradite that woman who murdered a child.
We won't stand for this.
That's the kind of ideological escalation that results in interstate conflict.
Then the Feds finally say, okay, now local law enforcement or national guards are being rallied up.
We got to get involved.
And then you get a left versus right versus federal, strange civil war scenario.
Possibility, not saying it will happen.
alex stein
But so you kind of break it down.
It'd almost be like, you know, Texas and Florida versus, you know, New York and California.
ian crossland
Sponsored by Pfizer.
tim pool
So with the first civil war, I think it was seven states, I usually get the number wrong, seceded before Abraham Lincoln was even president.
And the other states joined after Abraham Lincoln invaded and started fighting against the Confederacy to pull them back and to force them into the Union.
And so it's possible that what starts is... I'll put it this way.
The reason Texas joined the Confederacy was because they had no choice.
By geography, that's what was stated.
They were relatively new to the Union.
They were offered up to be five states before they came.
It just had to be one big state.
And then when the Civil War breaks out, for trade reasons and association, they were like, well, we're here next to all of the Confederacy.
We have no connection to the Union at this point.
So it was practical.
They could have gone either way.
Some states could have.
So the probability is, You might see with the abortion stuff, circumstances, and I think, you know, what could be a small catalyst is like, a man and a woman are together, maybe they're not married, and the woman gets pregnant, and the guy says, you have to keep it, and the woman says no and flees.
That's a crime in Texas, or maybe Oklahoma is a better example, facilitating or trafficking an abortion, or I think Missouri passed this law in March.
And the guy who lives in the state is victimized, and his unborn child was killed, so he wants justice.
The state petitions the federal government for intervention.
The federal government refuses.
The state goes in, uproar.
They start barring access to residents of other states, saying no, because not until that person is extradited and the feds won't intervene, and, you know, there's a potential there.
alex stein
You know, and I'd actually like to get your opinion on abortion, because even people that are pro-choice actually agree that there should be some sort of limit, you know, maybe not in the third trimester.
So what do you think about the politicians trying to do it up to birth?
tim pool
Oh, we talk about it all the time.
They're psychotic.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's just, that's just satanic or demonic.
In the conservative world, they say everything's satanic and demonic.
For me, not even the people, you know, even the people that are pro-choice believe there should be a limit.
So it's just very weird that our politicians want it up into birth even after.
tim pool
Democrats.
All right, let's read some more.
That's right.
Yeah, three strikes.
And there was a guy, you know, that had two felony convictions and then got a misdemeanor and it was the third strike and spent the life in prison.
putting away people who committed misdemeanors if that.
alex stein
That's right.
Yeah, three strikes.
And there was a guy, you know, that had two felony convictions and then got a misdemeanor
and it was the third strike and spent their life in prison.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Raymond Lora says, do you think AOC is a decent person
that's being influenced to push specific policies and it has created a character we've seen?
Since Alex confronted AOC with Latina and she never corrected him with Latinx, she just lashed out at her handlers.
Um, I think AOC isn't like an NPC, right?
I think she's just blindly bouncing between whatever, you know, like whatever gets her power.
That's it.
That's why she gave you a peace sign and said, let's do a selfie and peace sign.
And then later came out saying, I was going to deck him.
It's like, why don't you give him a peace sign and waved and then left?
alex stein
Well, you know, the reason why is all these politicians are so emboldened to their funding.
And so, like I said, there have people that make the decisions for them, basically.
And she knows, you know, whose side she's on.
So she's bought and sold like toilet paper at Walmart, in my opinion.
All right.
tim pool
Abyss Mom says, Tim, you have talked about being as big as the Daily Wire one day, and I sincerely hope that happens.
Any plans for kid content?
I just want kid stuff.
My kids asked questions spawned from ads from June.
We actually do.
We started with Chicken City, and we have those silly Chicken City cartoons.
And so we definitely want to make content that is more kid-friendly and educational.
We have a plan for local community building, and we actually are working on a kids' show right now.
It's preliminary.
We have, like, merch planned, and I think it'll be a huge success and a lot of fun.
And that'll be an age range of, like, you know, five to nine or whatever.
Just, like, Content we have we you know people work for us our parents
They've talked about how they really just don't like the stuff that's being put out for kids these days, and we need
to make stuff That's why the daily wire is doing it. That's why we want
to do it, and it's also a great market opportunity Wholesome family brand for kids is an excellent opportunity
to expand the business We want to take it and we want to make the world a better
place I have to talk about how inspiring kids is the key to
winning the future so that's something we definitely have plans for I
Can't say anything crazy like the daily wire committing a hundred million dollars to it
But I can say we're gonna we got a show in the works that we're really excited for
It's going to be a whole lot of fun.
Yeah, it'll be great.
It'll be great.
Crang says, Alex Stein is a thick boy.
Big politics on him.
alex stein
I am thick.
I'm thick and thick.
Primetime99 is a plant-based pimp, so I basically eat spaghetti and cheese pizza for all my meals.
ian crossland
Vegetarian?
alex stein
Yeah, vegetarian and plant-based, dog.
Plant-based.
ian crossland
Grow your own!
tim pool
Plant-based diet.
alex stein
Yeah, but it's not very healthy because I have a limited option, so like I said, cheese pizza.
Not the same cheese pizza as Jeffrey Epstein ate, but yes, cheese pizza is my main diet.
tim pool
Sterling Wills III says, please watch Sword Art Online, the metaverse scenario-ish y'all talking about.
I've heard about it.
You've talked about it before.
ian crossland
I've seen it.
It's actually very good and worth watching at least the first couple seasons.
I felt like it started to get a little repetitive personally after like the sixth or seventh episode, but incredible theme.
Definitely worth checking out if you haven't seen it yet.
Sword Art Online.
tim pool
Sam says, there's some data out of Sweden and the US that suggests SSRIs may cause homicidal ideation in young men ages 14 to 24, between 1 and 3%, up to three months.
Wow.
I remember, I was going to say something about that, but I wasn't entirely sure.
That it's not just about suicidal ideation, it's about homicidal.
Like it makes people like nuts and want to, you know.
ian crossland
A lot of these mass shootings, I think they call them public suicides.
People refer to them as, because a lot of times the shooter loses their life.
alex stein
And they want to take people out with them because they want to kill themselves.
ian crossland
I wonder if these first-person shooter games... You can't say that?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm writing a super chat.
alex stein
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I don't know.
What did you say?
I didn't hear you.
alex stein
I just said some people want to kill themselves, but I don't know if that's illegal.
tim pool
Oh, no, no.
Illegal.
We don't want people to do anything.
alex stein
No, no, no.
Obviously not, no.
tim pool
Alright, Samuel... This is why I said, oh man.
Samuel Onitsky says, And during Lent, you know, the fish fillet is one of the most popular sandwiches in America.
Really?
Yeah, because people don't eat meat.
And it's delicious.
I don't eat it anymore, but it's delicious.
Best show, NA.
alex stein
And during Lent, you know, the fish fillet is one of the most popular sandwiches in America.
Yeah, because people don't eat meat.
It's super, and it's delicious.
I don't eat it anymore, but delicious.
tim pool
The fish fillet is the one thing I would say, okay, that is good.
alex stein
See?
You found something!
tim pool
That's true.
unidentified
Wow!
alex stein
We found something that Tim likes!
tim pool
Filet-O-Fish, yes.
mary morgan
You eat that and not a sausage burrito.
tim pool
Ah, no way.
mary morgan
Seriously?
alex stein
The Filet-O-Fish is delicious.
tim pool
Yeah, and I think it's made of something called, like, hokey, I think it is.
alex stein
I think that is right.
tim pool
Hokey hokey.
alex stein
Yeah, you know, Tim's a smart man.
ian crossland
That's the fish kind.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a bony, nasty fish, garbage fish that nobody wants to eat.
ian crossland
Oh, what a surprise.
tim pool
Did you look it up?
Is that what it's the Hokie?
ian crossland
Checking it out.
tim pool
Is it?
ian crossland
The Hokie fish inside your fish-o-fil-a?
tim pool
Boom!
How did I know that?
I got a weird memory.
lydia smith
Yeah, why do you have those facts in your brain?
tim pool
I just read it all day, every day, nonstop for like a decade.
It's insane.
ian crossland
The blue hake, the blue grenadier, the New Zealand whiptail or whiptail hawk.
tim pool
It's like a hokey.
It's like a bony fish that like if you were to catch on its own it's not really enough but when you catch a huge amount of them and you grind them up into a paste.
mary morgan
With the bones?
tim pool
I think, yeah.
Healthy.
But it's a paste.
alex stein
It's good for your digestion.
tim pool
It really is.
I mean a lot of collagen in the fish bones so it's good for you.
The Filet-O-Fish is good.
I gotta hand it to you.
alex stein
We found something.
tim pool
We found something.
There's our common ground.
Our treaty as it were.
We can go to McDonald's and I'll get the Filet-O-Fish.
Yeah a double filet-o-fish got cheese on it and the tartar sauce is good.
alex stein
Well Tim and I hope you don't get mad at me for saying this and you know obviously Tim is incredibly well-known and he is a celebrity obviously and Tim said one of the most terrible things I've ever heard is that Tim can not really go to a restaurant anymore that makes me oh yeah I just hate that I mean I'm just saying that is like honest to God that is just really sad because you know I think there's nothing bigger than fat American cultures eating at a restaurant you know I mean that's like literally part of our culture and you're missing out it makes me sad.
tim pool
People, I mean, I go out to eat.
You gotta be careful.
People don't understand, like, there's no cameras back there, and there's no way to prove if someone puts, like, bleach in your food.
You could get really, really sick.
You wouldn't know why, and they're not gonna run a test on it.
People don't understand this.
You go to the hospital for stuff, and they often, they're not gonna be like, is there bleach in this system?
If there's no reason to suspect it, they won't actually test for it, and then they won't know, and then they'll be like, we'll give you fluids and try and get you better.
And then, even if the only place you ate was at one restaurant, you got sick, how do you even prove the person there was some lunatic who was actually trying to ruin your food or get you sick?
Donald Trump, when he goes out, this is why he does fast food so often, because it's pre-made.
So no one tampers with it, and he knows that.
And so, when I was reading about Kavanaugh eating at the Morton's, I was like, did security go into the kitchen and watch the food get made?
alex stein
Well, Morton's is a pretty classy restaurant.
Doesn't matter.
I know, I know.
I'm not arguing on that.
tim pool
You think the person in the kitchen isn't going to be sympathetic to the left or hate?
It doesn't matter.
alex stein
Ian might like this one, but this is a little secret for the kids out there, and obviously drugs are the worst thing ever, but, you know, the kitchen culture is the biggest, druggiest, you know, world there is.
I'm just saying.
ian crossland
Stony, stony.
alex stein
Exactly.
I'm just saying the kitchen culture, and I think Anthony Bourdain, you know, kind of exposed that.
tim pool
Diners are fine.
You ever go to the diner where you watch them on the grill right there on the spot?
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
I can go there and I can eat.
alex stein
Waffle house, yeah.
tim pool
But the problem is, if I go to an area that's heavy blue, and people recognize me, and then I just say, I trust you with what I'm gonna put my body right now, they could, at the worst, spit in it.
Or I should say at the least, you know, if they're angry with me and they don't like me spitting it and there's no way I'll know and I'll eat it.
Or they can do something seriously bad like biologically tamper with it and there's no way to prove it.
And I've gotten sick eating out before and it's like I've had people recognize me.
I've had issues at restaurants with like, okay, I probably shouldn't eat here.
There's places where you can see the ideological stuff on their walls.
I've gotten emails from people being like, hey, watch out, the people at this restaurant know who you are.
And it's like, okay, we gotta take that seriously now.
It's like, people, people, we've gotten swatted so many times, I've gotten death threats enough, where you get to a point where you literally can't just go to a restaurant, sit down and be like, I'd like the wings, please.
Can't do it.
alex stein
That's a harsh reality.
tim pool
You gotta do weird things, like have someone order the wings for you, sit down, and then I can walk in and sit down and eat it.
alex stein
The price of fame, folks.
tim pool
It's not just about fame.
It's about the level of violence in this country right now.
And the fact that there are people who, like, a guy punched Jack Posobiec in front of police and then they all lied about it.
So, you know, these are things people have to consider.
alex stein
Well, let's consider this, did Amber heard poop in Johnny Depp's bed?
tim pool
Oh, I guess she did.
alex stein
It was the dog.
ian crossland
Oh, is that what she said?
It was the dog?
mary morgan
She said that was the dog.
tim pool
We're going to read a bit more because we argued too much about the moon.
alex stein
I know!
I feel like we got lost.
See, I'm all about the vibrational energy and I kind of brought it down.
tim pool
No, it was fun.
It was fun.
ian crossland
It's like a swing shot.
tim pool
I just want to make sure we read some more Super Chats.
Alexander Nelson says, my in-laws are ranchers in North Dakota, and the beef we bought from them recently is like nothing we've experienced from any grocery store.
In the end, it's cheaper to buy in bulk as well.
Check them out at Dakota Angus LLC.
Not sure if they deliver, but it's worth the trip.
We get a lot of farm fresh meat.
Drive up to a local farm, you walk right up, pop open the freezer, grab out a big chunk of fresh farm beef, pay for it, bring it back and eat it.
alex stein
Well yeah, you can buy like half the cow.
That's a big deal in Texas, where you just buy the cow.
tim pool
We have so many chickens right now.
What do we have, like 30 something chickens?
ian crossland
I love it.
tim pool
Yeah, and they're all screaming.
alex stein
Tons of eggs.
Big eggs, too.
tim pool
Yeah, we get a crazy amount of eggs.
It's so awesome.
ian crossland
I'm gonna eat some of those tomorrow.
tim pool
The good news is, for those that follow Chicken City, Sarah is nearly all recovered.
unidentified
Excellent.
tim pool
She got really sick.
She went to the vet, they gave her fluids and antibiotics, and she made it.
Yeah, she had some kind of chicken infection.
alex stein
I think I had the same thing, but it was just monkeypox.
tim pool
Monkeypox?
ian crossland
Where'd you get that?
alex stein
Yeah, I was just hanging out at Pride.
It's not a big deal.
ian crossland
I saw an article that was like, San Francisco at risk of monkeypox.
I'm like, is it because of the poop in the streets?
alex stein
No, that's Pelosi-like.
tim pool
It's already been officially reported.
It's being transmitted mostly among gay men.
lydia smith
Different vector, yeah.
alex stein
Oh, and guys, I want to say this.
I just want to thank you, you know, Nancy Pelosi, because did you see, you know, her jugs?
That she's actually going to end the baby formula crisis with her own breasts.
ian crossland
Selfless.
alex stein
They're so big.
A lot of milk.
tim pool
We have two Super Chits I want to read back to back.
OMG Puppies says, is this guy trolling Tim or does he really believe this?
And then Armchair Quarterback says, Alex's right space is a hoax.
Pick your poison.
alex stein
Pick your poison, guys.
Either or.
And like I said, I'm not a role model.
Do not believe me.
Do your own independent research.
So, you know, I'm like Charles Barkley in the 80s.
You know, I ain't no role model, dawg.
tim pool
Atherin Zala says the greatest evidence that the moon landing was not faked is Russia.
It was the Cold War and space race.
If Russia thought for one instant that America had faked it, they would have let the world know.
Or they would have... I mean, I'm surprised they didn't accuse it anyway.
They should have just tried to say it.
alex stein
Well, it might have started a war.
I mean, there's a reason why it was a Cold War that, you know, we never had.
unidentified
All right, all right, all right.
tim pool
We'll, uh, grab some more subpoenas.
alex stein
I see Ian's face, because it's a touchy subject, guys, because you're talking about geopolitical conflict, and we live in a world where we don't necessarily know the truth.
There's declassified levels of information.
tim pool
Neil Strong says, I'm really trying to get others to join us and listen to you, but man, it's a breath of fresh air when I listen to a podcast like tonight.
JRE compromised, it seems.
I don't think Joe Rogan's compromised.
I think Joe Rogan is what Joe Rogan's always been.
He's a discerning, regular guy who isn't a culture warrior.
I think people need to understand, like, we're culture warriors here.
We are very concerned about culture.
We want to influence it.
We directly say that.
We challenge it.
We pay to expand upon it.
And Joe Rogan's a comedian who wants to hang out with his friends and have interesting conversations, who gets pulled into these things because he just will tell the truth when it comes to certain news stories.
But you can't expect him to be a journalist and, like, dig up all of the facts and then challenge them, you know, the way we do.
alex stein
Well, he used to be a little more combative, but what do you think about him saying he didn't want to have Trump on?
I mean, I agree, I don't believe he wanted to have Trump on, but do you think Trump wanted to come on?
tim pool
Yes, absolutely.
And I think Joe basically admitted that Trump would do really, really well on his show, and it would help him.
Like, Joe Biden on Rogan would hurt Biden tremendously.
Donald Trump on Rogan would help him tremendously.
Joe said that.
So, for whatever reason, Joe thinks it would help him.
Yep.
All right.
Let's see.
Brandon Hill says, Alex, you are misreading the context in Obama's speech.
It was post-space shuttle era, meaning not currently able, not that we never did.
alex stein
Yeah, not currently able.
So I'm saying the technology went backwards.
We were able to go in 1969 through 1972.
And I just compare a simple, you know, comparison, you say apples and oranges, you look at a 1969 Lincoln, you compare it to a 2022 Lincoln Navigator.
The technology did not go backwards in that sense.
tim pool
What if we needed to store data on a magnetic strip in a computer?
Well, we actually deleted all the telemetry data and they said that we needed it for, you know, further missions, but... No, what I mean is, like, let's say right now there's a circumstance in which we're like, you know, we want to use tape drives.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's more reliable on an EMP blast.
tim pool
We don't have factories that can make them right now, do we?
They've all shut down the production on tape decks for computers because it was considered inferior, or we didn't have a reason to use it, or we found other means, or, like Beta and VHS.
The point is, there's probably factories out there that could quickly start producing tape decks, tape drives for computers, because it's not relatively difficult, but it would be really expensive.
You'd have to fund it, finance it, and create the factory to do it, and that's old technology.
So there's older stuff that we just stopped doing, and now we're like, maybe we should rebuild that.
alex stein
Well, they admit that we went to the moon with technology less than a TI-83 calculator.
You agree with that, right?
tim pool
Yeah, of course.
alex stein
So we didn't have computers, but now through Zoom, you can literally talk to people across the world instantly.
tim pool
Different tech.
alex stein
I know, but I'm just saying, you know, the technology that they had able to call Richard Nixon from the surface of the moon, uh, with like a three second delay, to me, I just think that, and then it took, you know, how many years, 60 years for us to get Zoom.
It's just the timeline for me.
I don't agree with that.
tim pool
Well, but like Zoom is very different from radio, you know, radio, it was very simple.
alex stein
In fact, hacker buddies of mine... To call 237,000 miles away on the moon?
tim pool
Using radio?
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, yeah.
alex stein
There are people who bounce... But you saw Nixon on a landline talking to the astronauts.
You've seen that, right?
tim pool
Look, man.
alex stein
I know, I don't want to keep talking about it.
I know, I know.
ian crossland
I love Nixon.
I'm just kidding, by the way.
alex stein
But Nixon is the most honest president ever.
tim pool
There are hackers who are trying to take over satellites that want to bounce signals off the moon.
There was a project that I was in.
We were doing a brainstorming session where we wanted to use infrared laser pulsed into clouds that could only be detectable by an optical device so that you could translate the flicker of it into low-grade data signals or audio.
Yeah, there's really easy rudimentary light and radio wave based technology that is very different from encoding and decoding bits and streaming it over, you know, hard lines and things like that, but I digress.
Let's read, we'll just read a couple more here.
And what's what we got?
Reggae Vibe says, I think a civil war would look like War, Inc.
with John Cusack, where corporations are literally fighting and funding the war along ideological lines.
That's basically been the case forever.
Like the Civil War in the United States, there were people funding, you know, either side, hoping for a victory and, you know, for whatever.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
tim pool
We'll grab, we'll grab one more.
ian crossland
What do we got?
tim pool
That's all I'm mentioning.
Hollow points.
Let's see.
alex stein
Oh, and did you know you can make a gun vlog on YouTube, but if you have a live stream with a gun in it, it immediately gets cancelled.
tim pool
You can't handle guns on a live stream, and you can only handle guns in an approved environment.
So if you have a gun channel and you're on a range, you're fine.
If you have a gun channel and you're in a bedroom, you're banned.
alex stein
Oh wow, I didn't know that.
I knew it had to be approved, but I figured maybe in a bedroom you could display the gun, but you're talking about you can't even really display it in a private room, basically?
unidentified
All right.
ian crossland
Is that what you were saying, Tim?
Can you display a gun in a private room?
tim pool
Yes.
But you can't handle it?
alex stein
You can't handle it, okay.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Because like Crowder had the gun at his desk.
ian crossland
You can't handle it!
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there's like decorative stuff and things like that.
alex stein
Gosh, Crowder really pushes the limit, right?
tim pool
Or is a holster.
alex stein
I know, I mean.
ian crossland
He's wild.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
The Science Chain says, there were six crewed, as in manned, U.S.
landings between 1969 and 1972 and numerous uncrewed landings.
China also landed something on the moon recently.
I mean, the question is, like, did we land the rover on Mars?
Did we land... what was the big thing?
The Volkswagen-sized things that landed on Mars was a huge deal.
And it was, like, really scary, because, like, the huge delay between Earth and Mars for a radio signal.
lydia smith
Rover?
tim pool
Yeah, it was the, you know, curiosity, maybe.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Yeah, so there's like a whole bunch of stuff, but, you know, or whatever.
Hey, you know what?
We're gonna wrap it up.
It's Friday night, my friends.
If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show if you really like it, and become a member at timcast.com.
To watch all of the awesome shows we had this week.
The Dave Landau one.
We're really hyping up because he's such a funny guy and it was so good.
So become a member.
Check that out.
We could really use your support.
We want to expand and make new shows.
We're setting up venues.
We're doing public events.
We're going to do skate contests.
All this culture and community building we're really excited about and it's all thanks to you.
So you can follow the show at Timcast IRL.
You can follow me at Timcast.
Alex, you want to shout anything out?
alex stein
It's PrimeTime99!
Guys, please follow my Alex Stein channel.
I'm almost to 200k subs.
If you guys could push me over the top, I would be honored and delighted.
And I want to say, Tim, thank you so much for having me on.
I really appreciate it.
You know, we did a little debate, but you were a little mad about the way I treated AOC, but at the end of the day, it opened the door, just like the Capitol Police.
So, you never know, in the culture war, what it's going to take to be the domino that knocks down the bigger dominoes.
So we've got to keep fighting.
I appreciate you fighting on the front lines.
tim pool
Right on.
mary morgan
If you want to see me more often, you should go find me on Instagram or WeChat at Closer Kitty, or you can go subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube.
We go live at 3 p.m.
Eastern Time, noon Pacific Time every weekday, and we talk about entertainment news and movies and celebrity gossip, so come join us.
ian crossland
You're going to want to watch Pop Culture Crisis from today.
If you haven't seen it yet, I was on the episode.
It was fantastic.
It went two hours.
Largest super chat day, I think.
mary morgan
Three crisis parties.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Obliteratingly awesome.
mary morgan
First time.
ian crossland
Check out Cass Castle because the action is hot.
You're going to want to see that video and see who I really am not.
tim pool
It was funny because the comments were like, this video made me actually like Ian.
ian crossland
Yep.
Well, it's unstoppable.
If you're in the way, you're going to capitulate like me.
Alex, I love you, man.
alex stein
Good to see you, too.
unidentified
I love you, Ian.
alex stein
It is a pleasure.
ian crossland
Great to see you in person.
alex stein
And Lydia.
Come on, guys.
ian crossland
This is a good... Let's give it up for Lydia.
alex stein
This is a fun show.
Hopefully it's a little controversial, you know, the people at home.
You know, it's a little divisive, but sometimes in this, you know, we got to kind of, you know... It's like clapping.
ian crossland
It doesn't always feel good, you know?
It kind of stings a little bit.
alex stein
Yeah, but that makes it entertaining, so... Correct.
lydia smith
My personal theory is that Canada is not real, but that is an argument for a different night.
alex stein
I agree.
lydia smith
I know.
We'll get into that later.
No, I'm just kidding.
That's not a big deal.
You guys, we are huge fans of Pop Culture Crisis over here.
You guys should follow them.
Brett works his butt off to get that show lined up, and Mary is great over there as well.
As you know, politics is downstream of culture, so Pop Culture Crisis first, then Tim Castile in the evening.
You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patchlets, as well as SourPatchlets.me.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
Well, actually, you will see us there, because we're not doing the show tonight.
But also check out Cast Castle, and we'll see you all on Monday.
Thanks for hanging out.
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