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June 23, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - FBI Raids Trump Official Over 2020 Support, DOJ Seizes GOP Phone Data w/Rep Troy Nehls
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of Donald Trump's claims in the 2020 election and And man, it just kind of gets crazier and scarier every day.
The FBI, the DOJ, they've been issuing more subpoenas.
They've been going after Republicans who supported Trump.
They've even seized cell phone data from I believe somebody out of the GOP chair out of Nevada.
Basically, if you were concerned about 2020 and you sided with Trump, looks like the weight of the DOJ is coming after you.
And to me, this seems entirely political.
So, I don't know, should I just say, it's a political civil war at the very least, watching law enforcement be used against political rivals.
In an op-ed for the Washington Post, one writer said, if the purpose of all of this is just to stop Donald Trump from running again, Why not just use the power of Congress to do so?
As if to imply it is believed among people in media that the only reason they're going after Trump supporters and Trump himself is because they're scared he'll win in 2024.
And I think that's basically what they're doing.
Trying to find any way possible to use the 14th amendment to stop Trump from winning another term.
And that just says to me, like, I mean, it's all right there in front of your face.
So regardless of what you think, either you're on the left and you think Trump staged a coup and lost, Or, and January 6th, so you must be thinking Civil War.
Or, you support Trump and you're watching the DOJ go after their political rivals.
So, trying times indeed.
We'll talk about all that and a bunch of other stories.
The Supreme Court, obviously this one's really, really big, just struck down a gun control law in New York, so it's a major victory for gun rights advocates.
We saw this one coming.
Kavanaugh, stopping short, he wrote in concurrence, yes, yes, you can keep it in bare arms, but you still need to get a permit.
And I think that's dumb, but whatever, we'll talk about it.
Joining us to discuss all of this is Congressman Troy Nails.
troy nehls
Tim, good to be with you.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Thanks for coming.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
troy nehls
Sure.
I represent Texas 22nd Congressional District.
I'm a freshman, so I'm the new junior Woodchuck on the block, but it's an honor to serve.
I'm a very conservative member of Congress.
I joined the Freedom Caucus.
It's been trying times.
You know, we're in the minority up there and it's difficult when you know that for two years you're not getting anything meaningful across the aisle.
So, we have our battles each and every day, but I keep the faith and stay after it.
Keep fighting.
tim pool
You also were a sheriff.
troy nehls
I was.
Law enforcement for 30 years.
I was a sheriff for the past eight years and it started with my father way back then when and he was a sheriff, military man, older brother, sheriff as well, military and then I have a twin brother and I that joined the military as well and we're both in law enforcement.
It's been an honor.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for coming.
It should be a good conversation.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
We got Seamus.
seamus coughlin
I'm Seamus Goglin of Freedom Tunes.
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I think you guys should check that out.
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Thank you.
jamie kilstein
Hey, everybody.
tim pool
Just look at you, Jamie.
jamie kilstein
I'm Jamie Kilstein.
I like that the first guest is a member of Congress.
And I'm like, I host a podcast called A F-Up's Guide to the Universe, except it's not F-Up.
It's the one I can't say, but you can get it at JamieKilsteinPodcast.com.
I am also now a pretty large part of Castcastle on YouTube, the vlog over here, and we're doing some really awesome stuff and it's gonna get better and better so check that out.
And this Saturday in New York City at the Beacon Theater, a place that I have dreamed about playing since I was a teenager, a homeless teenage musician, I will be performing stand-up comedy along guests such as Tim Pool, Tulsi Gabbard, Cornel West, and Mr.
James O'Keefe himself.
tim pool
Tim Pool's gonna be there.
jamie kilstein
Sounds like a good show.
Oh, and it's run by Minds.
You can go to festival.minds.com.
Get tickets.
If you can't afford tickets, they have a program to hook up my fellow Poors.
lydia smith
I am also here in the corner pushing buttons.
Very excited to have Congressman Nails on the show with us.
We'll hear what he has to say about what's going on on the Hill.
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Feds search home of Jeffrey Clark, former DOJ official who pushed Trump's false election fraud claims.
They say Clark is a former DOJ lawyer, who former President Donald Trump sought to install as Attorney General in the days before the January 6th Capitol riot, as top officials refused to go along with his vote fraud claims.
It wasn't clear what investigators were seeking at Clark's home, but the raid was part of the Justice Department's sweeping investigation into the effort to overturn the 2020 elections, according to sources familiar with the matter.
Now, what we're hearing from conservatives and Republicans Is that Jeffrey Clark was simply trying to understand and investigate the claims that were being made.
On the left, they're saying he's an insurrectionist who is going along with Trump's schemes.
I don't think either narrative matters.
What matters is the narratives exist.
If you're on the left and you're looking at this, you're like, yes, the federal government is going after Trump and his opponents.
Certainly, then you think Trump's tried staging a coup and we're in the midst of some very serious crisis.
Or you're a Trump supporter and you're like, this dude wasn't doing anything wrong.
And the weight of the DOJ is crushing down on their political rivals.
I happen to think that the DOJ, the January 6th committee is just trying to stop Trump from winning.
That's my opinion.
But either way, it looks like this country is being completely ripped apart.
seamus coughlin
Yep, you know, I've said it once and I will say it again.
In 2016, when there were accusations made that the presidential election was rigged, we investigated the accused.
In 2020, when the same accusation was made, we decided to investigate the accuser.
Make of that what you want.
jamie kilstein
I just don't like how the left is the anti-police state side quote-unquote the you know anti-prison industrial complex but if it's somebody who we don't know why yet if we know why and the dude did something wrong okay but we don't know why yet and just to see Democrats blindly be like yes Queen and like so excited that just Trump supporters are being arrested or searched or whatever I don't love.
troy nehls
I would assume that.
Clark probably knew this was coming.
He probably knew it was coming.
You look at what the DOJ has done at this sham committee.
They've gone after Steve Bannon, Mark Meadows, anybody even affiliated, associated with Trump, anybody that was texting with him, tweeting with him even days prior.
This is all about Trump.
This is that sham committee.
And it's an illegitimate committee, quite honestly.
tim pool
And Jeffrey Clark, I'm pretty sure he was subpoenaed and he pleaded the fifth.
So I wonder if this is retaliation for him refusing to actually answer those questions.
Because you know what the January 6th Committee is doing?
I'll tell you, anybody who's testified for the January 6th Committee, you've been played.
You watch the videos they're putting out.
They're pulling quotes out of context.
That's what they wanted.
It's a non-adversarial committee.
There's no cross-examination.
So they're just getting people to say whatever they want.
They're taking interviews with the Trump sphere and getting them out of context.
It's a show trial.
It's a sham.
And now they're using the weight of the federal government to crush anybody who is supporting Trump.
troy nehls
And it's all one-sided because there's no Republicans on it.
Exactly, exactly.
McCarthy asked me to be one of the five, and I wanted to be, but for your listeners, you need to understand that this is the first time in the history of Congress has a speaker ever rejected a minority leader's picks to be on a select committee.
It's never happened before.
She didn't like Jim Jordan.
She didn't like Jim Banks and some of the others.
So we're not on it, but we're doing our own thing.
tim pool
Because I think it's clearly meant to manipulate people who don't pay attention.
So they go, it's a bipartisan committee because we have- Because we've got Liz Cheney!
unidentified
Yeah, right.
tim pool
You know what I love?
I feel like if we're talking about actual political arguments, the real factions are libertarians and conservatives.
Cause liberals are just saying whatever random crazy nonsense.
I just don't even understand.
They're like, Liz Cheney's great.
I'm like, what?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
You hated the Cheneys.
tim pool
Where are you?
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
No one in the Cheney family has ever gotten us like hyped up on fears of terrorism or anything like that to strip people of their civil liberties.
I don't think we have anything to worry about here.
tim pool
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, huh?
troy nehls
Yeah, if you've been watching the hearings and Liz, the first hearing, 20 minutes, pretty sleepy.
She must have a serious crush on Trump because she mentioned his name over and over and over again.
But truly, I think what it is, she despises him.
She thinks about him when she wakes up and when she goes to sleep.
She's thinking about him because she despises him.
Everybody on that committee, they hate him.
And I believe, Tim, you're absolutely right.
This is about Trump in 2024.
There's no other reason for this.
Yeah, I'd like DeSantis, though.
about inflation and gas. So it's all about January 6th. And I think it's having, sadly,
a little bit of an impact. And maybe that's why you're seeing DeSantis numbers improve a little
bit. Yeah. I like DeSantis, though. I'm not saying he's not a good guy. I'm just saying that I think
that as they continue to do this, it's all one sided and you keep it on, keep it on. I was
watching MSLSD the other day and CNN and that's all you saw.
Trump, Trump, Trump's name on it.
So they're trying to convince the American people.
tim pool
It's like they think he's still president or something.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
It's been two years, man.
Go home!
seamus coughlin
Bluenon, bro!
They think he's secretly still the president.
I gotta say, I agree with you.
And you would, you know, it's unfortunate because like you said, it is having something of an effect.
But if it wasn't, you'd almost just call it a weird group therapy session.
They're all just getting together to vent about how much they He didn't like Trump and he was bad.
It just seems like a very emotionally satisfying thing for them, rather than something serious people are engaging in for good reasons.
jamie kilstein
They're just all trauma bonding.
tim pool
Yeah, really.
So Robert Barnes was on, he was saying he doesn't think they're gonna actually criminally charge Trump or even do a criminal referral, because if they do, then it's Ron DeSantis.
But what they want to do is demonize Trump enough to where they'll have something to campaign on.
So come 2024, Trump comes out and he's like, you know, I'm going to be running again.
And then they're going to be like, remember all of that crazy stuff we showed you in the FBI?
Oh, don't vote for that guy.
Oh, it's the end of days.
That's what they want.
seamus coughlin
It's Russiagate 2.0.
tim pool
Right.
Exactly.
jamie kilstein
I wanted to ask you about that, which is, do you think your constituents, because when I go on Twitter and, you know, the people I follow are, a lot of them are famous Hollywood people or people on the left still.
And even my people on the right, like everyone's kind of talking about it.
Do real people care about this or do real people just want to talk about the economy?
Like, are there working poor constituents who are coming up to you talking about January 6th?
Like, is it an issue that affects real people right now?
troy nehls
I think when the people that talked about it, they said there's very few people watching this stuff.
Listen, they cannot talk about inflation, they can't talk about gas prices, but the mom and dad and everybody else that's paying five bucks for fuel, that's what's on their mind.
The food, all of it, the inflation, eight and a half percent.
So what else are the Democrats going to play?
I mean, really, quite honestly, they're pretty clever about this.
Let's just talk about January 6th, because we can just beat Trump every day.
Beat him, beat him, beat him, beat him, because they don't want him coming back in 2024.
No, I hope he comes back, because I think he'll be the 47th president if he comes back.
jamie kilstein
He will be lost.
tim pool
Could you imagine?
troy nehls
I do.
I believe he's coming back.
tim pool
Could you just imagine being at a gas station, and then all of a sudden you hear someone just yell out in anger, like, And you're like, oh man, you must have saw the gas prices.
And you walk over, gas prices?
No, no, I'm watching the January 6th hearing!
It's that Viking guy!
unidentified
He's back!
troy nehls
The shaman.
seamus coughlin
We came so close to losing it all that day!
This is so hysterical, the entire narrative.
He's the sitting president of the United States at this point, has complete control over the military, right?
He's the commander-in-chief, and his attempt at an insurrection is to, like, vaguely dog-whistle that people enter a building without weapons?
tim pool
Yeah, basically.
jamie kilstein
If anything, we learned he's really bad at insurrections.
So we should all feel safer for a third term.
Like, yo, homeboy tried it and he was not good at it.
Second term.
troy nehls
You know, they're pretty clever, too, because they show the worst few minutes of footage.
And they'll show law enforcement officers get hurt.
And there's not a law enforcement officer across the country that would support any law enforcement officer getting hurt.
And if you assaulted a law enforcement officer that day, go to prison, not jail.
Lock him up.
Go to prison, lock him up, and I think we would all agree with that.
jamie kilstein
Yes.
troy nehls
But I tell you something.
I give tours of that Capitol today, and I gave it last week, and when you go through that beautiful statutory hall, if the individuals inside that building wanted to destroy that building, they could have.
There's monuments everywhere.
There's paintings.
They could have destroyed it, but they chose not to because most of the people inside that building didn't do anything wrong.
They were there.
They shouldn't have been there, but quite honestly, Yeah, well, and it's true.
seamus coughlin
I mean, there's nuance, right?
You did have people on one side of the building who were rioting, who broke the doors down.
On the other side of the building, the police removed the barriers, opened the doors, waved people in.
Those people didn't do anything wrong.
The people who broke in and were causing problems did.
tim pool
One guy tried claiming that he was let in, and there's a video of him climbing through a broken window, and they're like, nah.
seamus coughlin
He's like, why would they just leave the window open?
There was a pie on the window sill, I was not gonna go there.
jamie kilstein
They texted me, said, smell for the pie, then punch with cover your fist with a bandana.
Punch it.
troy nehls
I want to know if they're going to charge a dog.
I mean, Triumph the Dog now with... Oh, that's right.
jamie kilstein
No one charges Triumph the Dog.
seamus coughlin
My point is, even when you look at the people who did break the law, who should be prosecuted, it still wasn't an insurrection.
jamie kilstein
Well, and this was kind of, maybe this is a stretch, Tim, but this was, you know, Occupy is you had normal people marching peacefully, which is our right to do.
And then you had people destroying property.
And those are very, those are two very different groups of people.
lydia smith
Of course.
tim pool
Well, with January 6, it is fair to point out, this is the Capitol building, and there was an effort to count the electoral votes.
So it's bad that gets disrupted.
That puts it on a special level, but it was a riot.
It was a riot, and it was a really, really bad one.
And there's questions about security and how we should be handling this.
But the funny thing is, on January 20th, 2017, hundreds of black-clad far-leftists romped through D.C., smashing windows and setting fires, attacking people, and they were all arrested, and almost all of them were acquitted, except for the people who actually pleaded guilty, because they made a mistake.
A bunch of people just said, no matter what, I'm not guilty.
And then the progressive lawyers and legal apparatus were able to get these people out.
Lawsuits were filed and the city ended up having to pay the people they arrested, some
of them.
And one of them I think was a journalist.
So it's funny when the far left rampages through DC during Trump's inauguration, the government
doesn't care.
But when you come to the government's house, all of a sudden they're going to put the boot
on you.
It shows you who they're really willing to protect.
It's not you, it's them.
seamus coughlin
But only sometimes when you go to the government's house, right?
Because we cannot forget the 529.
unidentified
529!
Yeah, 529.
seamus coughlin
Where they surrounded the White House 1,500, what was it, 1,500 federal agents?
No, no, 150.
I'm sorry, 150.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, 150.
seamus coughlin
I exaggerated.
Look, I'm turning to CNN.
1500, uh, what was it? 1500, uh, federal agents. I'm sorry.
I exactly look, I'm turning 150 million. We had 150, uh, federal agents were injured.
They surrounded the White House.
The president literally had to retreat into a bunker.
And what was the response?
unidentified
Laughter.
seamus coughlin
People were laughing at the president.
tim pool
It was amazing.
Do the Republicans have a plan on holding a 529 commission?
Select committee?
troy nehls
I don't believe so.
tim pool
Well, but you know about 529.
troy nehls
Oh, go ahead.
tim pool
I don't.
Thousands of far leftists ripped down the barricades in front of the White House, tried tearing the fence down, set fire to a White House guard post, set fire to St.
John's Church.
The president was ushered into an emergency bunker out of fear for his safety, and journalists were injured.
150 officers got injured throughout the protests.
There is a photo, an aerial photo of D.C.
showing fires all over the city.
It was so much worse than January 6th.
But I gotta tell you, man, Troy, you see, I think the issue is the Democrats, they play offense.
They hold these committees, Republicans don't do it.
Why don't Republicans announce a select committee on 529 and start bringing in people, filing subpoenas?
troy nehls
I think what you're going to see is once we take over, and we will take over the House in January, there's no question about it.
And I think Leader McCarthy has stated that he's going to obviously form some select committees.
I think we'll be looking in the Hunter's laptop and COVID issues, Afghanistan, that dismal withdrawal, and obviously the southern border, fentanyl.
So I think there's going to be some committees established.
I think the Judiciary and Oversight and Government Reform are going to be very, very busy for the next two years just looking at some of these things.
As it relates to the 529, I'm not certain.
But, you know, it's sad.
I mean, January 6th was a difficult day.
I was one of the last guys there, you know, protecting that chamber, having actual conversations with the individuals on the other side.
So, it's just a sad day, and I think the American people look at that.
It was a black eye on America.
I mean, we've got to be clear.
It was a black eye, but it was not Donald Trump that brought those people inside that building.
tim pool
I've got a tough question for you.
troy nehls
Yeah.
tim pool
Will you support the impeachment of Joe Biden after the Republicans take over the House?
troy nehls
Without question.
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
troy nehls
Without question.
tim pool
I thought it was going to be a hard one.
troy nehls
No, no, it wouldn't be.
And it wouldn't just be him.
jamie kilstein
That was, in fact, the easiest question.
troy nehls
No, Mayorkas needs to go.
You need to get rid of some of these others, Steve, because I've been down to the southern border.
I'm going to deflect down to the southern border, but I've been down there, Mayorkas, telling the American people the southern border is closed.
No, it's not.
I'm down here in the water with Griff Jenkins from Fox News, and there's people walking right across.
So don't tell me and then don't stop lying to the American people.
tim pool
Sorry, I think he should be impeached over Ukraine. I think you guys need to launch an
investigation into those dealings. It's remarkable how Donald Trump got impeached over,
he was impeached over Ukraine, I believe, right?
That was one of the impeachments.
troy nehls
Yeah, the phone call with Zelensky.
seamus coughlin
For looking into what Biden was doing.
tim pool
And it was clever.
The Democratic establishment, and obviously the neocon Republicans who work with him, were able to take what Joe Biden did, stick it to Trump, and use it to impeach him.
They said Donald Trump engaged in a quid pro quo with the president of Ukraine, when what actually happened was, in my opinion, When you see the transcript and you hear about what Trump was saying, it sounds like Trump didn't really know what was going on.
It sounds like Trump watched Fox News and then saw some video where Joe Biden's like, I said, you're not getting a loan guarantee, a billion dollars, unless you fire the prosecutor.
Well, SOB, guy gets fired.
And then Trump's like, what's going on?
And then he calls him and he's like, what was that video?
But before you look at the transcript, he's like, what was that video about?
And he's like, look into it.
And that was it.
And they were like, impeach him.
Why?
Joe Biden.
Went to Ukraine when the US government approved a billion dollars in loan guarantees.
He told Ukraine, and bragged about it by the way, if you don't fire the prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, I will block these loans.
And the president of Ukraine told Joe Biden, you can't do that, you don't have the authority.
And Biden said, call the president, see what he says.
The man admitted to having no authority, to a quid pro quo, gloated about it, laughed in a room full of people.
Turns out Viktor Shokin had a dozen plus investigations into Burisma, where Hunter Biden sat on the board getting $83,000 per month.
Now, I'm not accusing Joe Biden of having done that for the purpose of protecting his son.
I'm saying it just so happens the prosecutor was investigating a company his son worked at, made a lot of money from.
Here's the best part.
According to Hunter Biden's laptop, they shared bank accounts.
So that means the money that was coming into Hunter Biden, Joe Biden had access to.
They also shared phone numbers.
I look at that and I'm just like, how do we not have an investigation at the very least?
I'm not saying Joe Biden's guilty.
I'm saying that's beyond probable cause to be like, maybe we should investigate what happened here.
jamie kilstein
I'm just realizing me and my father are not as close as we should be.
That sounds awesome.
seamus coughlin
But this, I mean, and that's exactly why the media covered it up, right?
And that's exactly why it was suppressed by all the major social media companies.
tim pool
We've had other Republican prospects, you know, I've asked about this, like, well, you know, when it comes to impeachment, we're going to need this, that.
You're just like, we're doing it.
seamus coughlin
I really appreciated that, actually.
troy nehls
No issues with that at all.
But quite honestly, we've got to wait till, I mean, I really want him to be the Democrat nominee in 2020.
seamus coughlin
I was just going to say, I was going to say, don't you want him to run?
troy nehls
We need Sleepy Joe to be there.
jamie kilstein
I saw you try to run and pick him up when he fell off his bike just like come on buddy you got this you got this can I I just want to backtrack to January 6 because I actually think it's really interesting and I've obviously I've never talked to anyone who was there where you're a Republican so you're on the side of a lot of the people who were there You're from law enforcement, so you have to gauge and assess threats and protect people.
I assume even when you are not wearing that badge, you still take that very seriously.
What in God's name was your mindset during that?
What were you thinking?
What was the mentality?
Did you really Did you feel threatened?
Were you in law enforcement mode?
Were you in like, what is this political, you know, did you take it lightly?
What was going on through your head?
troy nehls
Great question, JB.
It was COVID.
So it's not like they were all 435 of us on the floor.
There were many up in the gallery area as well.
And I was there back towards the center on the right side in the center.
And we were going through the objectors of Arizona.
And then all of a sudden, you know, there's no televisions on the house floor.
They've got some in the cloak rooms in the back.
And then all of a sudden I started getting some text messages and stuff from family and friends.
And then all of a sudden I saw a bunch of Capitol Police rush in.
Uniform, non-uniform.
And then one guy said, the Capitol's been breached.
The Capitol's been breached.
We're locked in.
We're not going anywhere.
So I'm back at the back there and they're trying to get members out.
And then all of a sudden they started banging on those center doors.
So if you see pictures of me in that blue shirt, I'm that guy in that blue shirt.
jamie kilstein
You're like, this is White House down, it's happening.
troy nehls
And then all of a sudden they broke the windows.
They broke the windows and then it got a little bit ugly.
Yeah.
jamie kilstein
Did you know who at this point?
Were you in just defensive mode?
Were you trying to figure it out?
troy nehls
No, I didn't know.
I mean, all I did do know is that some others put some furniture in front of those doors to make sure that it wouldn't get through.
They broke the windows and then I was eyeballing a kid on the other side, a young man.
And then I started having a little conversation with him because You see in all these pictures these Capitol Police officers having their guns drawn.
And so I thought, we cannot have this.
I mean, people are going to get shot if we're not careful.
So my job, my law enforcement background, trying to diffuse the situation.
And we did it.
And nobody entered.
The Capitol Police said, you've got to get off the house floor.
I said, I'm not leaving.
I'm not leaving my brothers and sisters in blue.
So I stayed there till the end.
unidentified
Wow.
Good for you.
troy nehls
That's it?
tim pool
Not worried about... I mean, were you worried at all about your safety?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Your life?
troy nehls
No, my wife's a little upset, but there's the picture.
unidentified
Remember that guy in the blue jersey?
troy nehls
You see that guy?
Yeah.
jamie kilstein
Yeah, I mean, to be fair, me and the congressman almost had a wrestling match downstairs before the show, and I was like, I trust this guy can handle himself.
We spotted each other's cauliflower ear.
troy nehls
You saw my ear, Jamie.
You backed off right away.
jamie kilstein
I spotted the threat before you spotted my ears, and then you were like, oh boy!
And then we became friends.
tim pool
Yeah, this is it, right?
lydia smith
Oh yeah, hey, look at that!
troy nehls
That's me.
My wife said, God, baby, I didn't know you were that receding that much at Ball Hill.
But no, I tell you, I applaud the Capitol Police officers there with me, though.
I mean, they did a good job.
They maintained composure.
They did not fire when that glass was broken.
And initially, we thought it was gunfire, because I ducked down.
And then immediately, within seconds, there was another guy said, I don't think that was gunfire, because it had hit me.
I mean, I wouldn't be here today.
tim pool
One officer did fire.
troy nehls
Well, and that was about probably 10-15 minutes after that photo.
And that was off my back right shoulder in the speaker's lobby, and that was Lieutenant Byrd.
And I've been a very vocal critic of that shooting.
I've had officers shot and killed, and I've had officers shoot and kill people.
So I know a little bit about, you know, self-defense and use of force, and he should have been charged with that.
He never went to a grand jury.
Ashley Babbitt was murdered on our nation's capital on January 6th.
tim pool
Will there be an effort, do you believe, on the part of Republicans or yourself to investigate or to get an indictment or anything like that?
troy nehls
Well, I would like to.
I think we need to continue talking about it, but I don't think there's going to be a lot of energy to move down that path.
I've been one of maybe two or three or four in the House that has actually addressed this issue.
tim pool
We tend to like the Freedom Caucus.
You know, you look at right now with most Republicans, and it's like they just want to get by.
They want to do the bare minimum, just get by, get through the next day.
They'll forget about it when they forget about it.
Right now, one of the big issues that's really gotten me fired up is, so I'm a resident of West Virginia.
That's where I officially live.
And Shelley Moore Capito, the Senator Republican, has signed on to this gun control legislation.
And she's a Republican in West Virginia, second most Trump-supporting state in the country.
So I'm a little bit upset about that.
And that's the problem.
We have 14 Republicans in the Senate supporting this ridiculous bill, coming to the aid of Democrats who want to strip us of our rights.
You know, what bothers me is we never see the inverse.
We never see Democrats being forced to negotiate with Republicans on Easing gun restrictions and bringing about gun access.
So that really, I don't know, that hurts me.
seamus coughlin
I mean, Republicans are expected to hold the line and compromise a little bit and then hold the line at its new position.
Whenever a Republican actually tries to bring things back to the way they used to be or conserve, as conservatives are supposed to, they're called an extremist or a radical.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
What are your thoughts on the gun stuff they're doing?
troy nehls
You're right.
There are 14 senators and one of our senators, we have two obviously from Texas, John Cornyn and Ted Cruz.
And I know that John Cornyn, I think McConnell asked him to kind of help lead that effort and try to find some unity or compromise with the other side.
tim pool
One of the Democrats has a compromise.
troy nehls
Yeah, well, I'm just letting you know that our big state convention was last week and Senator Cornyn spoke at it and they booed him pretty much right out of the room.
I think he's having a difficult time right now.
tim pool
They're liars.
Shelley Capito said that this is not about red flag laws, we won't allow that.
The bill's literally got a whole section on red flag laws and funding it.
They're just spitting in our faces and then telling us it's raining.
jamie kilstein
What do you think, and I'm asking all of these serious questions, maybe because I'm surrounded by Ian's crystals and I'm trying to bring unity to the country, but what are your thoughts on, I feel like Democrats and Republicans, they never come together to talk about, hey, how can we together Help with these shootings, these mass shootings.
Or what can we do to prevent them?
Or what are better law enforcement tactics?
Obviously we just saw a complete disaster happen in Texas.
And what ends up happening is it becomes, we want to take all your guns, don't take my guns.
And we stop talking about people's safety, right?
And so you again, coming from law enforcement, I feel like whenever Republicans on the news are asked about what we should do, we're not They don't really get asked about tactics, they just have to automatically be on their heels and defend, you know, the Second Amendment essentially.
So, do you see any sort of compromise or what would you do with your experience?
I think mental illness is a serious issue in our country, quite honestly.
Is there anything you think needs to change when it comes to gun control, gun legislation,
or do you think it's more a mental health thing, etc., etc.?
troy nehls
I think mental illness is a serious issue in our country.
Quite honestly, just look at everything you see on television today, it seems to be a
little bit weird.
But nobody wants to see what took place in Uvalde.
Nobody.
We all hurt.
If you have children, it's painful to watch it.
I don't even, quite honestly, like even talking about it.
But when you talk about these red flag laws, and if you look at, there's 19 states, I believe, that have red flag laws in our country.
And some of those states are Illinois and New York and here in District of Columbia, Washington, D.C.
And they have those red flag laws and they're very, they're some of the most strict gun laws you can have in the country.
It talks about waiting periods and And keeping guns out of the mentally ill and domestic abusers and even talking about private sales transactions 72-hour waiting periods.
So they're all there.
Limits on how you could buy ammo.
And they have some of the highest crime in the country.
So I'm saying if Chicago, listen Gore Lightfoot, whatever her name is, if you can find a way to solve the problems.
I mean people are killing each other but nobody's talking about the people being killed in Chicago.
tim pool
I actually do have a very simple proposal that will maintain the Second Amendment rights and reduce these shootings.
Promote fathers-in-the-home.
I'm not kidding.
That's literally the answer.
The profile of most of these mass shooters, it's fatherlessness.
That's a huge issue.
Outside of the mass shooting incidents, you look at crime in Chicago, for instance, it's a lack of a father-in-the-home.
So we need to encourage at the very least two-parent homes.
We need dads.
We need moms.
jamie kilstein
I mean, what's so frustrating hearing both you guys is that, you know, when I lived in the very rugged neighborhood of Park Slope, Brooklyn, I, you know, all of my friends had never shot a gun.
We're all very vocal.
Anti-gun, anti-gun.
Anytime there was a shooting, we would essentially just assume any Republican would rather, oh, play with their toy guns than, like, save children's lives because we didn't know anyone.
We never shot a gun.
And then I moved to Texas and my friends were like, Hey man, you want to shoot a gun?
And I was like, this is awesome.
And, but I actually started asking questions to green berets, to Navy
seals, to firearms instructors.
And I'm 40 years old and it was the first time in my life.
And I had a political talk show.
It was my job.
And it was the first time in my life.
I even heard statistics like, Hey, it's not that we're against these laws.
If these laws worked, maybe we would talk about these laws.
But I'm literally just learning for the first time that like, nah man, they don't even work.
And in fact, some of the places that are the most heavily armed are the safest.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story.
This is huge news.
From TimCast.com, SCOTUS strikes down New York State's proper cause gun control law.
Justice Thomas says 2nd and 14th, 2nd and 14th amendments protect an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home.
That's an amazing statement.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
And the reason I wanted to jump into the story too is we're getting into the gun control conversation.
One of the statements made by Alito was that the argument from the gun control side was that these laws are needed to prevent mass shootings.
And he said, one of those happened in New York where you have this law.
It did not do anything.
That's the most frustrating thing to me, is that you get a lot of these gun control people argue for things that already exist.
I had someone just sent to me an article and it was like, these laws could end gun violence.
And it was like, four things that are already in place.
Banning assault rifles is like...
Did you Google this before you wrote it or shared it?
jamie kilstein
Right, well, and that was the reason I even asked.
The congressman is because you're literally seeing people on the left just accuse, if you're not pro-gun control, that you just are cool with murder, instead of asking people with experience with firearms, hey, what do you, as someone who has more experience than me, who's never touched a gun, what do you actually think we should do?
troy nehls
Yeah, I tell you what, the laws are there.
The laws are on the books.
They just need to be enforced.
You know, in Texas now, we have a constitutional carry.
So you don't have to go out and get an LTC.
You don't have to go out and get a license.
It's a constitutional carry.
So people are carrying guns.
And I tell you what, the crime in Houston is out of control, and people are starting to carry more guns.
You're seeing, you know, sales increasing guns.
Because if people can't count on their government to keep them safe.
George Soros has gone out there and all these DAs are in these offices now across our country and they're leaving these criminals out.
So these people, I think the American people, are starting to carry more weapons because they say, I can't count on my government to keep me safe.
I have to keep myself safe and my family.
And I can't blame them because it's out of control.
Our cities are burning, gentlemen.
jamie kilstein
Now, is that working?
Are the places with more people carrying, do they become safer because of that sort of fear tactic?
I'll tell you this, when I finally moved to southern states, I certainly don't honk my horn as much when I'm cut off, because I'm like, I don't know what that guy's carrying.
troy nehls
I understand.
And that's not the point.
It's better to have it, not need it.
Need it, not have it.
But I'm just saying that criminals would have to kind of pause a little bit, take a second, think, hey, am I going to pull a gun on that guy?
Because he may have one.
tim pool
So let's talk a bit about this ruling.
We can thank Brett Kavanaugh for blocking constitutional carry nationwide.
lydia smith
Shocking.
tim pool
He said, basically, that this does not impact the existing permitting rules in 43 states.
That means if you're in a state that requires a permit for concealed carry, well, they did not touch that.
Come on, Kavanaugh!
You should have come out and been like the government.
The government requiring permission for you to bear arms is an infringement upon your right to bear arms.
However, he's of the opinion the government can not stop you from having it, but they can be forced to grant permission, which in my opinion makes no sense because if they can deny you a permit for any reason, then government permission as a requirement infringes upon your rights.
But this does mean that it's likely going to impact Maryland, New Jersey.
Obviously, it's New York, California, Hawaii, and the District of Columbia.
So this means, in all likelihood, these states will now have to actually give you a permit.
It's already prohibitively—it's restrictive in terms of what you need to do to apply for one.
So while this is a good ruling, the problem is Maryland is not—so here's how it works.
Maryland, New York, New Jersey, they say, OK, you filled the forms, you got the training, why do you need the weapon?
And this is what the Supreme Court struck down.
You can't ask that.
You can tell them, here's the requirements, and then you've got to give them the permit.
Because these states were just saying, you need a legitimate reason for this, and no matter what you said, they went, nope.
One of the plaintiffs said, he needed a weapon because of a string of violent robberies in his area, and he needed to protect himself.
And they said, no.
I'm like, what more could you ask for?
If you're famous, if you're rich, some of these states will give them to you, but New Jersey and New York still don't, even if you're rich and famous.
jamie kilstein
I got rejected and I just said revenge.
lydia smith
That's not a good reject.
jamie kilstein
Nope.
tim pool
I once saw a guy in Walmart trying to buy a gun and he was openly talking about how he wanted to get revenge on someone.
jamie kilstein
No, really?
tim pool
Yeah, and then he got escorted out by the police.
They wouldn't sell to him.
That's good.
So basically what's happening now is, the next move's in my opinion, it's a good victory, it's tremendous, but what's likely going to happen is that New Jersey and New York will just create very restrictive permitting practices.
That's what they were doing.
And then they're going to say, We can't ask you for why you need it, but we can ask you to undergo a three-month psychiatric evaluation.
So once again, they jam you up, then someone's gonna have to sue, and this took seven years to get through.
Seven years.
troy nehls
You know, I made it very clear that I will not be supporting this legislation coming through the Senate, and it's just, it's very difficult.
You think that all the laws that are out there, if you think creating more laws are going to keep the criminals from carrying weapons, they don't care.
They don't care about your Supreme Court.
They don't care about the Chief of Police or any laws.
They're going to continue to carry these weapons.
They're going to continue to hurt and harm the American people.
The people that are out there doing good things.
The criminals have the guns and they're not giving them up.
tim pool
Now hold on.
You were a sheriff for 30 years?
troy nehls
I was a sheriff for 8 and law enforcement for 30.
tim pool
Law enforcement with 30s.
So, this is in Texas, I'd imagine, right?
troy nehls
That's right.
tim pool
So, you mean to tell me that, you know, so one, constitutional carry is relatively new, but you actually encountered people who defied the law and carried weapons?
troy nehls
Imagine that.
tim pool
But that doesn't make sense!
troy nehls
Can you imagine that?
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait.
This can't be true.
It was illegal.
troy nehls
It was like, little Johnny, little Johnny, do you know you're a convicted felon?
Yes, sir.
Do you know you can't carry a gun?
Yes, sir.
jamie kilstein
Did they read the sign?
troy nehls
They do not care.
tim pool
Did they read the sign?
jamie kilstein
Did they read the sign that said no guns allowed?
seamus coughlin
I'm not following, but so like he knew he couldn't but still had it?
troy nehls
The little Johnny doesn't care.
seamus coughlin
Little Johnny doesn't care.
troy nehls
And you're wondering, we had shootings here in Washington, D.C. here last week.
It was a 15-year-old and he had a gun and then there was one a couple weeks prior to
that, he was 15-year-old, had a girlfriend, 15-years-old girlfriend, 8 months pregnant,
he had a gun and I'm thinking to myself, you want to talk about the breakdown of the family,
right?
There's no fathers in their lives and it's just causing problems.
tim pool
That's what it is.
A major issue with shootings is that people don't have dads.
And the problem is when you try and bring that up to the left, they don't understand.
I shouldn't say the left.
I always do that.
Leftists, they actually like guns.
It's liberals.
It's these urban liberal types.
They can't think beyond single-layer issues.
They think, someone got shot, therefore get the gun away.
And it's like, but you need to understand, the person who had the gun had it illegally already.
Your new laws won't change.
So in Chicago, for instance, they're like, well, it's not Chicago's fault they're doing the shootings, they're getting the guns from Indiana.
And it's like, what more law could you put in Illinois if you've already got them?
Don't you get it?
We'll ban all the guns everywhere.
They say they don't want to ban guns, but then that's the only argument they have to make.
jamie kilstein
We'll destroy Indiana.
troy nehls
Did you see the store yesterday?
tim pool
Another big beautiful wall.
troy nehls
Did you see the store yesterday?
A guy walks into one of the stores with a gun to rob the store.
unidentified
Well, that's not legal.
seamus coughlin
That's not legal.
unidentified
I saw that.
troy nehls
a gun and shot and killed him and the siblings of the robber they were
outraged on the news they're actually on the news the sister was saying this is
ridiculous I know he went in and robbed him but he shouldn't have been shot he
was pointing a gun at the clerk the clerk had a gun and shot and killed this
seamus coughlin
guy so this is the type of similar story years ago I just want to make one point really quickly about this.
This is one of the really interesting and obvious flaws with the left is they want to be really, really, really harsh on potential crime, which is to say going after people who haven't done anything wrong because there's a potential that they might.
And then when someone actually commits a crime, they want to be really lenient about it.
tim pool
Do you see the story of the woman in the cell phone store?
And the guy walks in and she goes, hi, can I help you?
He goes, yeah, do you have a... BOOM!
And just starts mercilessly beating her for no reason.
seamus coughlin
And these are the people they will say, these are the people who they will say, you know, should be able to walk without bail.
And, you know, it's so cruel that the criminal justice system doesn't give them a second shot.
But then when it comes to law abiding citizens, they talk about restricting our freedom so that crime won't occur.
It's so backwards.
troy nehls
Remember, Kamala set up an account for the 2020 riots to bail out those individuals, and that was a true insurrectionist.
Listen, when you go up to Seattle and you occupy city blocks, what was it, the Chaz and the shop and all that?
That is an insurrection, fellas, without question.
They were burning down buildings, a police station, everything else, and look at many of them.
tim pool
It was a mostly peaceful fire in Minnesota.
That's what they said.
seamus coughlin
It was a joke.
Fiery but mostly peaceful protest.
tim pool
Fiery but mostly peaceful.
seamus coughlin
They were roasting marshmallows.
troy nehls
While it's burning behind you.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
Exactly.
So I'm sorry.
This is why I think the political factions are the cult and regular people.
Because you have people who are like, the riots that burned down police stations were
peaceful.
They outright say it.
They write articles saying, in defense of looting.
After the Ferguson riots, they were like, actually, looting is revolutionary, and they're defying the system.
And I'm just like, you know, did you talk to any people who lived in Ferguson?
Because they were angry about the rioting, begging for it to stop.
And then these progressive urban liberal types, city urban liberal types, come out and write articles being like, actually, the rioting is good, because they're vapid, Self-interested egotists.
who don't understand what's actually going on. I'll tell you, in Ferguson, people who did not
live there exploited the chaos and started destroying things and looting them. And the
people who did live there were linking arms saying, please, this is our community.
These snooty, progressive, hipster types in New York, not wanting to do any amount of work to
understand the situation, looked at it and said, I'm going to defend those brown people because
there must be a good reason why they're rioting, and then wrote in defense of looting. And what
it really was was criminals victimizing a community, and they defended the criminals
because they're bad people.
jamie kilstein
I will never forget footage.
What happened to George Floyd was horrific.
I remember seeing footage of, during the rioting, two black women begging.
Begging a white person to stop destroying property.
And it's like, hey, these are the ones who, when you tourists, when you hipster tourists go back to your co-op and Park Slope and all that stuff, they're the ones who still have to live here.
It's their stores.
You're not, they're not the ones who killed George Floyd.
They're not the ones, you know.
tim pool
But look, look, when you simply say something like, I think when they burned down that guy's bar, it was a bad thing.
And they go, well, you're racist.
It's like, okay, dude.
Yeah, well, there's no argument.
seamus coughlin
They don't know how to think outside that.
So, we also see this.
There is obviously a huge part that class plays here.
So, we were talking about this with the Canadian truckers honking their horns.
And literally, one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the country, alright, honking your horn in such a neighborhood is terrorism.
You're trying to overthrow the country.
But you go into a poor black neighborhood and burn all the businesses down, that's just A-OK, right?
Ends justify means.
jamie kilstein
I mean, you'll scare all the moose if you honk in Canada.
tim pool
Let me ask you, Congressman, do you think that should Republicans regain control of the House, assuming they do regain control of the House, probably the Senate, should there be an investigation into the 2020 riots maybe?
I know you mentioned there's probably not gonna be a lot of energy towards these things as they're old, but I feel like we need a resolution.
troy nehls
There should be, because I think a lot of the agitators in the 2020 riots, what we're finding out is many of these people are being paid.
They're not even from the neighborhood.
They're being bused in.
They're being called in.
They're being paid by these organizations on the far left to go out there and do damage and hurt our country.
If you saw what took place here a couple weeks ago when they had the leak with the Supreme Court ruling, the Roe vs. Wade, You saw some of the things in I think it was in California someplace maybe LA that seems to be the and and there were cop cars that had windows being smashed and I'm like the knucklehead break in that window on that car has no earthly idea what the hell Roe versus Wade is.
He doesn't.
He has no clue.
He has been paid.
They get these individuals and they rally the horses.
They pay them to go out there and spin things up and stir things up.
And that's the problem you have with the far left, is there's no civility there.
They want to go immediately to violence.
And it's dangerous in this country.
And so this deal coming up here with this potential, with the Supreme Court, with Roe versus Wade, I mean, it's going to get ugly.
I think National Guard needs to be deployed.
seamus coughlin
It's already gotten ugly.
They've been firebombing clinics that are set up to help pregnant women.
tim pool
So they announced the Supreme Court will be adding another opinion day tomorrow.
And as soon as I heard that, I was like, you gotta be kidding me.
That's when they're gonna do it, aren't they?
And anybody who's ever covered riots, all the journalists out there, the riot squad, I've been on the ground.
You know, the worst possible day is Friday because everyone's off work and they got the weekend.
Students are out of school.
They got the weekend.
So if they do come out tomorrow morning and say, Rowan Casey, you're gone.
They may be thinking you do it on a Friday because then no one, no one in the media picks it up.
But the lunatics are waiting.
They're waiting with bated breath.
It's going to be 1045.
That's when they usually issue the last opinion around 1040.
And they're going to say, Rowan Casey, you're gone.
And then you are going to see tomorrow night, if they do this, bonkers.
Riots.
And then Saturday, insanity.
jamie kilstein
And guys, if you need somewhere safe to hide out on Saturday and you're in New York City, the Beacon Theater.
Festival.minds.com.
It's big, theater, sturdy walls.
troy nehls
That's where some of the worst writing is going to be in New York.
jamie kilstein
They're going to be like, where's Tim Pool?
tim pool
Yeah, I'm just realizing this right now.
I mean, we didn't know.
This event's been planned for a long time.
We're going to be, it's not just us.
James O'Keefe, Tulsi Gabbard.
You're going to have a lot of people there.
Seth Dillon's going to be there.
jamie kilstein
This is the making of an action movie where it's like we are going to get locked in and either turn on each other or become the heroes New York City has been waiting for.
tim pool
Someone's going to eat the last Snickers.
They're going to be like, it's him!
He's a liberal!
He's one of them!
jamie kilstein
I'll be like, Tulsi's a Russian asset!
We just keep going back and forth.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, they riot.
They're encouraged to riot.
As you mentioned, one of my favorite lines that we kept hearing repeatedly
was, rioting is the language of the unheard.
If only we were hearing them, they wouldn't be rioting.
And then they turn around and they go, we have to silence conservatives
or else they'll commit acts of violence.
It's like, well, hold on a second.
Hold on a sec.
You're like concerned about violence from conservatives, so you want to make them unheard?
Because you just told me, like, rioting is what people do when they aren't heard.
So what do you believe?
tim pool
I just want to stress this one more time, like, they added an extra day to do opinions tomorrow, and it seems like it may be, like, why else would they do that?
They have the next week to do the final opinions.
They could do it on Monday.
And so I'm like, we're going to be in New York and it's going to be like, it's going to be like Dawn of the Dead.
We're going to be locked in and there's going to be like, they're outside.
They got the power lines.
troy nehls
And we have votes tomorrow morning, mid morning.
They should have probably waited till we're out of here.
tim pool
Maybe they won't do it though.
Maybe what they're trying to do is, no, they're trying, I think there's like 16 more opinions.
Maybe they're trying to be like, we need to get all of this out on Monday.
So that means tomorrow we should do these ones.
Then Monday we can do Roe v. Wade.
troy nehls
The holiday weekend.
Wait for over the four.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
I agree.
Maybe.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
troy nehls
People won't be paying attention.
lydia smith
Maybe.
tim pool
Well, the crazy people are.
The crazy people will be.
But it's not a holiday weekend.
It's a holiday month.
It's MAGA month.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
MAGA month, the month of July.
We got to change all of our profile pictures to American flags and celebrate America.
troy nehls
And I'm OK with that.
tim pool
I'm OK with that.
And we grill every day.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Every day.
And then on the 4th of July, you have the fireworks.
But yeah, MAGA month.
lydia smith
I'm ready.
tim pool
I'm not even kidding.
I'm legit, like, we are going... I'm just gonna stop you.
jamie kilstein
Buddy, I'm moving here.
tim pool
I ordered... What did I order?
lydia smith
Fireworks, I hope.
tim pool
How many hot dogs did I order?
100?
100?
What is this?
Yeah, I think I ordered 100 hot dogs.
Or is it 500?
No, it's not 500.
jamie kilstein
I think that's when I'm moving my stuff from Austin.
I'm gonna have to change my plans.
tim pool
It's all month, bro.
jamie kilstein
Oh, it's all month?
tim pool
We're gonna be firing up the grill all month.
jamie kilstein
This is awesome.
tim pool
So I ordered this big thing from Portillo's.
Famous Chicago hot dogs.
And so we're gonna be grillin'.
jamie kilstein
Moving here is the best decision I've ever made.
This is awesome.
tim pool
Everyone's gonna be chillin'.
That's work.
MAGA month, baby.
Yeah, we celebrate America.
jamie kilstein
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
What were we talking about?
I wanted to get a little optimistic.
jamie kilstein
Gun, Supreme Court, protesting.
Man, I also, you know, it's just, we...
I feel like the rioting is sort of the on the street equivalent of what happens on Twitter where it's like, do you actually want something to get done?
Right?
If you actually want something to get done, you're going to want to talk to people.
You're good.
For example, so I got not many.
I've gotten, and I thank all of you listening.
I've gotten thousands of new followers on Twitter and to the podcast since I've started
coming on this show.
But I've lost a couple of vocal fans of mine who are on the left and they would just say
stuff about you that was hyperbolic but also that I would disagree with.
And they were like, how could you be on a show with that person?
And it's like, hey man, if you think we disagree on that, wouldn't you actually think it was
a great thing for me to be on the show, for me to bring a diverse viewpoint, for me to
become friends with someone who maybe I will even see my point of view.
Like sometimes I see his point of view and they don't care.
They will not listen.
And yeah, and that's, that's where I'm at.
tim pool
So we've got this lefty guy who's going to be speaking on the same panel as us at the Beacon Theatre, and he had to put out a video explaining why he was doing it.
He called it a debate.
And so I got a message from this left-wing guy that I'm friends with, and he's like, you're debating this dude?
And I was like, I'm not debating anybody.
What are you talking about?
It's a panel on media manipulation.
jamie kilstein
Yeah, we're just hanging.
tim pool
I mean, I'm gonna sit there and be like, I don't know.
I don't like debating people.
I'll argue with someone.
I'll try to correct them if I think they're wrong.
But I don't enter debates.
I don't, like, invite people here to debate me.
I don't do any of that stuff.
I just, let's have a conversation.
jamie kilstein
It's a hang.
It's a conversation.
tim pool
But the fact that he even had to make a video addressing it, being like, here's why I'm doing it.
And then people responded with like, yeah, but dude, it's James O'Keefe.
Like, what's wrong with you?
It's okay, whatever, dude.
Look, I don't want to live that way.
I like being able to walk into a room with anybody and be like, tell me stuff.
troy nehls
Yes.
It appears to me that the American people can't seem to be able to sit across the table from each other like this and agree to disagree.
Yes.
And what we're teaching our kids, in my humble opinion, when you see what took place with the summer riots in 2020, it seems like if we disagree now, all of a sudden we curl up our fists and we hit each other in the nose.
And I think it's going in the wrong direction.
What are we teaching our kids?
What are we teaching these kids to think, hey, if you can't resolve it, just go in there and hit them in the nose.
And 2020 was bad, but we are one, Tim.
We are one police shooting away from having an enormous civil unrest.
If it's a white officer that shoots an African-American, and there's any questionable call there, Al Sharpton has his plane on the tarmac, it's ready to go, he's gonna fire that thing up, he's gonna fly to that area, and he's just gonna go there, and he's gonna be an agitator.
And it's sad!
That's not the way we should handle things.
tim pool
It's not even about if it's questionable.
You take a look at the Ahmaud Arbery case, do you remember this one?
troy nehls
Yes.
tim pool
Fox News, conservative Republicans came out in defense of Aubrey and I was just like, well look, I don't like the fact that anybody dies.
I don't like the fact that he died.
But the story is just, we had a couple lawyers on who broke it down for us and I'm like, oh okay, so this guy was a burglar.
Like, yes.
He's on camera committing a burglary.
Yes.
And so these guys were told by the police he was the burglar.
Yes.
So then when they saw him, they chased after him.
Yes.
And they were told that if they witnessed a felony, they could intervene to stop him.
Yes.
But the police told them to stand down while they came to arrive, and they didn't listen.
And I'm like, okay.
And then what happened?
The guy who filmed it got the remainder of his life in prison.
And I'm like, okay, something doesn't add up here.
This, this story doesn't make sense.
So it's not even a question of if, if it's like, I mean, the Ahmed Arbery case should be very clear cut in what happened, but they will weaponize it and they will lie about it and they will make it questionable.
jamie kilstein
Well, and I think that just like the left needs to keep a lot of their people in check when it comes to rioting, when it comes to destroying property and stuff like that, we also we do have a problem.
There have been plenty of kids who have lost their life unjustly.
And we need to talk about that as well.
Like the one I always think of is Tamir Rice, where it was like you have like a 13 year old kid playing with a toy gun.
And I think in law enforcement, I think Oh no, is there something I don't know?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
jamie kilstein
Don't tell me Tamir Rice is really like a 45 year old man on the run from armed robbery.
tim pool
No, I think he had removed the orange tip from the gun and he's 5 foot 10.
jamie kilstein
Well, so here's what I was going to ask the congressman from his law enforcement days is I feel like Even if it is not racism, right?
There is protocol.
Like, unless you feel like you are in immediate danger, you want to de-escalate.
If you can't de-escalate, you want to go hands-on.
If you can't go hands-on, you want to go with taser.
And then, in theory, pulling the gun should be last?
Or am I incorrect on that?
troy nehls
Well, this is what I do know.
jamie kilstein
Yes.
troy nehls
Is there's not a law enforcement officer in America that's going to wake up tomorrow morning and go to work evening shift or night shift that says, I want to go out and legally kill somebody.
jamie kilstein
I'm going to kill a kid.
troy nehls
I want to go out there and legally kill somebody.
It's absolutely ludicrous to think because that officer that has to take that life They're going to live with that for the rest of their life, even if it was a very dangerous situation.
unidentified
Yes.
troy nehls
And the guy's pointing a gun at you.
And it's so difficult for law enforcement today because of the people that are mentally ill.
I mean, you have people that are mentally ill with all the drugs, the fentanyl coming across.
They're running around in streets naked and they're chasing officers, whether it's a small knife or even a piece of glass.
jamie kilstein
Yeah.
troy nehls
And they're running at the officer.
So the officers have a very difficult time today and they have to make very split, you know, second decisions.
tim pool
Did you see the video, actually?
And Jamie, did you see this?
Where the news reporter goes to the police conflict training scenarios.
Did you see this one?
jamie kilstein
No.
tim pool
And so the cop is like, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to give you this mock weapon that, you know, it fired like spitballs or something or paintballs.
And they were like, you need to figure out when is the appropriate, like how to deal with the situation.
jamie kilstein
Oh no.
tim pool
He, so in the mock scenarios, he kills a guy several times and in one, he like sees a guy by a car and he's like, what are you doing?
And the guy walks around the car and he just pulls and shoots.
And then the, uh, the cop goes, why'd you do that?
And he's like, well, I, he was like, he was just walking around a car and he's like, but I, I didn't know what he was doing.
And I was worried.
It's like.
The reporter was like, in every circumstance he was given, the reporter actually killed the dude unjustly.
seamus coughlin
I think that just says something about reporters though, to be fair.
It's like journalists are an interesting breed.
tim pool
There was one moment where the guy gets him in his face, he's like, what are you doing man?
Get out of here!
And then he puts two in his chest, mockingly, right?
And then the cop is like, what did you do?
You killed them all!
jamie kilstein
And then everyone starts filming and it's like... Okay, so you guys are going to hate me, and before the audience hates me, please follow me on Twitter at Jamie Kilstein.
seamus coughlin
Send him your hate there!
jamie kilstein
Subscribe to my podcast, Instagram at the Jamie Kilstein.
Isn't that more evidence for, one, more police training, and two, if you're going to own a gun?
So for me, I want to own a gun now, and I've been anti-gun, but I don't want to own a gun until I know Just like with Jiu Jitsu, just like that I can proficiently, that I can be taught and that I can train every week, especially under stress.
So isn't that also an example of why people should get training before they get a firearm?
And law enforcement actually maybe needs more training so that even though Tamir Rice, even though maybe the toy gun looked more realistic, that you're confident enough to assess the situation before you just open fire on who turns out to be a kid.
troy nehls
Everybody wants to go after law enforcement with these shootings.
How about train the crook, not the point the gun at the law enforcement?
jamie kilstein
Of course.
troy nehls
Look at the knucklehead the other day pulled up next to the traffic stop, right?
Did he have an axe or something?
tim pool
Oh, an axe, yup.
troy nehls
And he went after the officer.
No, the officer was trying to back up, do the best he could to keep that separation, because it's 21 feet, fellas.
That's the number.
tim pool
It's 21 feet.
jamie kilstein
But I think we can do both.
Like, this is the argument that happens.
I remember even when I was in super Wokey Wokey mode, when I would advocate for women to train jujitsu.
People would go, you're victim-blaming.
It's not their fault.
They shouldn't have to do anything.
You know, we need to teach men how not to rape.
And it's like, well, yes, we do.
But also, until people stop, training jujitsu will help you.
troy nehls
I'll finish with this on this.
Yeah, please.
I've said it and I'll say it again.
And that is, is that if you comply, if you comply, to all the criminals out there, the ones that carry guns, they shouldn't have guns, the felons, all these guys are going to go out.
jamie kilstein
My fans are tuning in.
troy nehls
If you comply, you will not die.
unidentified
That's it.
troy nehls
It's very simple.
If you comply, you will not die.
And when you look at Michael Brown and all these others, I mean, Michael Brown's fingerprint was on the officer's weapon.
So if you're out there fighting and holding court on the side of the road, this and that, there's a high probability something could go wrong, and it could cost you your life.
So just comply.
If you comply, criminals, you will not die.
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of these, uh, circumstances, you see people, uh, not, not, not just shootings.
They just are arguing with the cops and they don't understand that whether, whether you want it to be reality or not, it is.
If a cop is stopping you, you will gain nothing by fighting with him and talking with him.
That's the funniest thing.
It's like you're being arrested.
I love it when I hear these activists at Occupy, they were like, I have not been read my rights.
Like, And?
But they watch movies and they think a cop has to mirandize you because they watched you throw a brick at somebody?
These people don't know what they're talking about.
You keep your mouth shut.
Unfortunately, you know, there are instances where police have wrongly arrested people.
During Occupy Wall Street, I actually filmed the cops wrongly arrest somebody.
They lied in the police report, got a different officer to sign off on it, and I filmed it.
I want those officers charged criminally, but that doesn't happen.
That, to me, is the problem.
The issue isn't The issue is when an officer is breaking the law, violating their oath to the Constitution.
But if, this is what really frustrates me too, there's a video where there's like a black dude walking down the street and the cops are like, hey, come and talk to us for a minute, stop.
And he goes, no.
And they're like, you are being detained, stop.
And he goes, no.
And they fight with them and they're like, I can't believe the cops did that.
And it's like, dude.
Cops have a right to stop you to ask you questions.
They can detain you for a small amount of time.
It's the way the system goes.
You might not like it.
I get it.
But fighting with cops when they're like, what are you doing in this area?
It's not going to win anything for you.
You're not going to win on activism.
You're not going to win on the law.
All you're going to do is make everything worse.
Everyone agrees.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, it seems commonsensical though, right?
And people... So, I've been thinking about this and this is something I've... I don't think I've really discussed on this podcast.
Or, oh no, actually we did kind of talk about this the other day, but it makes sense in a very polarized environment where people have very different opinions that we're gonna end up...
Disagreeing on things at such a fundamental level that there are certain issues where we won't be able to reach a compromise, right?
And so, whether you're talking about abortion or homosexuality, or any of these other issues, when it comes to police, these are not matters of principle.
These are case-by-case situations that have to be investigated, right?
If you hear a police officer shot someone, it's not, I'm for that or I'm against that.
It's, all right, well, let's look into it and see what happened.
But for whatever reason, We are in a place in this country where people will hear that a police officer shot someone and they will immediately know that he is guilty.
And not only that he's guilty, but if the person was a minority, that he was guilty and he did it because that person was a minority.
That is insane.
tim pool
There are stories that I think should be pointed out, but people need to be careful not to conflate the outliers and the accidents.
So there's that one famous moment where a guy gets pulled over, a black dude gets pulled over in a van.
He gets out of the vehicle.
He's like, the cop says, get out of the vehicle.
He gets out and the cop says, show me your ID.
And he goes, okay.
He turns back into the car and the cop just shoots him.
And the cop was like, he was going for something.
It's like, you told him to get the ID.
You have, uh, someone mentioned Philando Castile.
Are you familiar with this case?
He was, uh, legally able to carry a weapon.
The cop panicked and shot him.
There's another issue of like, he shouldn't have been shot, but he was also smoking, smoking pot while he was driving.
So that kind of muddied things up, but he shouldn't have been shot.
jamie kilstein
That's not a death penalty offense.
tim pool
The issue is how do we deal with these accidents and outliers?
I think the challenge is we need to actually have a sit-down conversation.
We need to analyze what causes these and then figure out is there something we can do to make sure they don't happen while making sure cops are safe when they do their jobs.
troy nehls
There's not a cop that I've ever spoken to that agrees with what Derek Chabin did to George Floyd, that they would agree with that, and he should go to prison.
But, gentlemen, there are hundreds of thousands of stops made, up to millions, each and every month, each and every month on traffic stops.
And you're going to find law enforcement officers that make judgment calls, and they could be the wrong call.
You're going to get some that are going to get scared.
You talk about Uvalde.
Why did those guys not go into that building?
I don't know, but the point is it's a very, very difficult job, and everybody should go through what that media person went through.
You know, we have police academy training, Citizens Police Academy, it's a FATS training, and they go through and they realize it's just not as easy as it just seems.
So the point is that there's very, very few officer-involved shootings today.
I mean, come on, when you look at the number I think it's 375 million interactions per year, something like that.
police officers firing their weapons and when they do they're scrutinized before
the damn bullet even hits the you know it's just crazy. I think it's 375
tim pool
million interactions per year something like that and out of that there were I
think what was it nine unarmed black men killed in 2019?
seamus coughlin
And even that is a little Because first of all, it's possible to shoot someone who's armed and for that to be unjustified.
But also, it's possible to shoot an unarmed person and for that to be justified.
So when you look into these unarmed cases, one of them from a couple years ago I was looking at was he was strangling an old lady and then went to attack the cop.
It's just insane.
Even if you hear the words, unarmed black man shot by police officer, you don't know anything about the story until you know something about the story.
tim pool
You see that viral video where the guy's coming at the cop with a knife and he's backing away for like 30 seconds going, no, no!
But then the guy grabs his partner and he goes, no, no!
And then he starts shooting the guy and the guy gets shot and it gets back up.
He gets back up.
He gets shot because he's coming at the cop.
Then after being shot, he grabs his partner and then the cop shoots him in the head.
It's like people, you know what I think?
One of the issues is it's the algorithmic psychosis, I call it.
Let's say you're 10 years old, and the year is 2012, and you open up Facebook, and the only thing you're seeing is police brutality videos.
Remember that song where it's like, this is what you get when you call the cops, and it's like the guy rapping?
It's a really good song.
But it's like, Facebook recycles those videos because it gets clicks and people make money, so then other people recycle them.
Reddit was doing the same thing.
10 years goes by.
Where you're 10 years old watching these videos and for 10 years it's all you see.
You believe that is the world.
jamie kilstein
Oh bro, that's what I was telling you before.
That's why literally...
At 40 years old, it's like the first time I'm talking to conservatives or law enforcement.
And by the way, all the law enforcement friends I have said the exact same thing that you said about the George Floyd murder, where they were the most horrified.
And I think if we got rid of this us-versus-them mentality, then we could let Let the good cops speak up and be like, that shouldn't have happened.
And then they go continue to be good cops.
tim pool
I think, I think there are issues, but I think with 375 million interactions, we're talking about like a microscopic fraction of, of error.
And so there's something else that I refer to as the scaling problem.
And I'll, I'll put it this way.
Most of you watch, if you watch consistently, you may have heard me say it.
Let's say iPhone gives out a hundred phones to these celebrities and 1% of those phones break.
Nobody cares.
One celebrity comes out and he's like, Hey, my phone broke.
And they're like, Oh, that sucks.
Let's say they give it a hundred million phones and 1% break.
Now online trending 1 million tweets, broken phone.
I'm like, Whoa, all these phones are broken.
The same, same failure rate.
So if you have, you know, 375 million police interactions, The acceptable margin of error decreases as time goes on.
If you had 100 cops in the United States, and 1% brutalized someone, that's one cop.
People would be like, it was just one cop, who cares?
I'm waiting for... You get 100 million cops, and now you got a million police brutality stories, people are gonna lose their mind, which means you've got to reduce the margin of error as you scale up the size.
That's impossible to do infinitely.
troy nehls
And Tim, it seems like the answer to this, this problem we have with police brutality, is that we're gonna defund them.
Matter of fact, not to fund them.
We're just going to completely abolish them.
But I think a majority, a solid majority of the American people support the men and women in blue.
It's that small group that's out there just raising cane and just causing problems.
jamie kilstein
Well, I was going to say, I can speak as someone who, you know, during the emotion of everything that happened with George Floyd, I was listening to a lot of the defund the police people until I moved to Texas and I started talking to more police.
And police were saying, hey dude, we don't like what happened either.
We actually, if you defund us, that's less training.
unidentified
Right.
jamie kilstein
And we actually need more training.
And we need more resources.
And what you're gonna do if you deplete us, now we're working more, you know, I have a buddy on SWAT.
We're working more hours.
We're understaffed.
It's like, you think that's gonna help judgment?
troy nehls
Jamie, would you do your buddy's job for $70,000 a year?
jamie kilstein
Would I what?
troy nehls
Would you do his job, the law enforcement, the man on the SWAT team?
jamie kilstein
At this point, if I could train and if I could do it, yeah, but that's because I'm becoming a psychopath.
I was like, I would do it in a heartbeat.
But a lot of people on the left would not, if that's where you were going.
troy nehls
I just think people are leaving the industry.
People are leaving the profession because just the criticism and all the anti-police rhetoric out there.
jamie kilstein
And then you're going to lose good ones.
troy nehls
And I tell you, it's dangerous.
Well, you look at some of the cities now.
Look at the homicide rates, the crimes going up through the roof.
Why?
Well, just keep down with that, defund the police and all that, and you won't have police protecting your neighborhoods.
tim pool
I tweeted this about Yuvaldi.
I said, this is what happens when you defund the police.
And then everyone was like, they were well-funded, you're wrong.
And it's just like, you need to understand the subtlety here.
When the police are demoralized, demonized, and attacked relentlessly, they're going to be like, I'm out.
No, don't care.
I do want to add, though, I'm a little salty on cops, considering what happened with COVID.
Because too many cops, for one, I'll say a few things.
Cops enforcing unconstitutional gun laws, I think, is a problem.
And during COVID, cops enforcing unconstitutional edict was a huge problem.
And the one thing that was a big wake-up call for conservatives, and why a lot of Trump supporters and conservatives soured on support for cops, was because we saw cafe owners, salon owners, while the Democrats— A ton of jam owners, yep.
Yeah, gym owners, Attila's gym.
When you had the Democrats releasing prisoners and inmates who commit violent crimes and then taking business owners and putting them back in, people got really pissed off about that.
troy nehls
I tell you, where did you see that though?
You saw that in these large municipalities where there are police departments that work for a chief of police who works for the mayor and the city council.
So you didn't see that with sheriffs.
You saw the sheriffs.
They're elected.
There could be some far-left sheriffs out there that would be doing that too, but a majority of the sheriff says, I'm not enforcing that.
I wasn't going to enforce mask mandates because I only answer to the people that elect me.
Chiefs of police have to answer to mayors.
And the mayor is going to tell the chief, you get your people to do it.
If you want to keep your job, you're going to do exactly what the heck I tell you to do.
That makes it a little bit more difficult as it relates to municipal police departments and sheriff's offices and who their boss is.
tim pool
But that's a thing of big distinction.
There was one instance where a sheriff in Minnesota went and arrested a cafe owner for opening a cafe.
But again, I'm not going to point to one case and be like all the cops.
But a lot of people were just like, if this is what the cities are doing.
So my attitude is kind of like, if New York wants to abolish the cops, let them do it.
troy nehls
I don't live there.
tim pool
Let the people see and you see how it's going.
But I do kind of think maybe an easy solution is cops should be elected.
You shouldn't have a chief of police who's appointed by a political individual who then has his job held over him.
We should vote for who the police chief is.
troy nehls
Well, they don't survive very long.
Chiefs of Police, their tenure as chief is because a new mayor comes in, he wants to bring in his own pet, you know, his own buddy.
jamie kilstein
Well, there's always a cop that they have to deal with who doesn't play by the rules and he's going to retire soon and then they get into it.
unidentified
I was hoping someone picked up on that.
jamie kilstein
I was really proud of it, and as I was saying it, I was like, oh, it's dying!
seamus coughlin
But no, you said something earlier about how you think most people actually do support the police.
Part of why I would agree with that is because people as spineless as Joe Biden during his State of the Union address were willing to say, well, we need the police to be well-funded, which is what Joe Biden said during his State of the Union address.
No, don't defund them, defend them.
Like, oh, interesting.
Yes, yeah.
So this is becoming a safe position in the polls.
I'm sure it always has been, but it's something Democrats are even willing to say at this point.
tim pool
Well, when people are watching violent crime skyrocket, some dude pushed a woman on the train tracks in New York.
People don't want to live there, man.
And it's not just in New York City, it's all the cities.
Crime is through the roof.
troy nehls
And they're moving to Texas.
You know, we gained two congressional seats.
New York lost one.
California lost one.
We're hoping they're not bringing that ideology into Texas.
I think we should interview them before we actually allow them to.
But they're moving into Texas and you look at, you know, we have constitutional carry.
I mean, we have just... Texas is one of the greatest states.
I'm proud to be from it.
jamie kilstein
I moved from LA to Austin and everybody I met was like, how are you going to vote?
How are you going to vote?
You're going to change.
You're going to come.
How are you going to vote?
But then the worst thing I saw was there's, you know, there's a bumper sticker that says, don't California my Texas.
And the first time I saw it, it was a dude with a Florida license plate.
And I'm like, come on.
unidentified
Man.
troy nehls
You're in the most liberal city in the whole state.
jamie kilstein
Oh, I know.
troy nehls
Travis County.
I mean, it's horrible.
jamie kilstein
Austin is very, very, very different.
It's all just wellness podcasters.
It's terrible.
troy nehls
Yes, sir.
It is.
tim pool
So here's the issue with Texas.
You know, everybody was telling me, like, you guys should move there.
You guys should move there.
And I was like, no way.
Because Elon Musk, he's cool, right?
But when he moves and builds a factory in Austin and relocates his California employees, those people are progressive.
They're liberals.
So it's not just about Joe Rogan and Elon Musk, it's about everyone they bring with them.
And then when, you know, Jamie, you end up moving there, you got Michael Malice, you get these prominent individuals, comedians and podcasters, then the periphery of those groups are going to come as well.
And then California moves to Texas.
People were like, no, it's good that these people are moving because they're helping Texas and they're making it red.
And I'm like, maybe.
But what's going to happen is a California conservative is a far left Texan.
And they come in and they'll vote Republican because they don't like California leftism, which is coming to Texas, and they'll make Texas moderate, not Republican.
troy nehls
Eventually, I mean, but look at 2020.
Trump won Texas by 600,000.
You saw the congressional race we heard, I think it was Texas 34.
First time ever in the history have we seen a female Mexican born in Mexico become a member of Congress.
So I think many of the, just the policies, the policies of the left with the border and everything else.
People are, I feel pretty, I think we're going to do very, very well in the state of Texas here in November.
It's going to be a bloodbath.
jamie kilstein
I am sick of Republicans playing identity politics.
I'm just kidding.
tim pool
So what happens in 2022?
You think by November, it's going to be just like, you think the polls are wrong and it's going to be a crazy blowout we've never seen before?
A Republican supermajority or something?
troy nehls
Yeah, I think you'll see probably gaining 30, 35 seats.
We're now at about 212, 213.
We'll probably gain 30 to 35 seats.
And that's a big number.
tim pool
I think it actually could end up being better than Republicans realize.
troy nehls
It could.
tim pool
Because if the polls have been consistently skewed in favor of Democrats, and right now in the generic ballot Republicans are up about three points, they're probably up 10.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Then you look at, interestingly, five, I'm sorry, RealColorPolitics has the toss-up seats.
And I think 28 of 32 toss-ups are Democrat-held.
So it's just like, it might be way bigger than people realize.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than we realize as well. I don't know.
No idea.
troy nehls
There's still a few months to go here. So let's just wait and see what happens.
tim pool
But let's talk beyond that, though. What do you think?
You think Joe Biden's going to run again?
troy nehls
Well, I hope he does.
I, I, she, she...
I really do.
And I'd send them $25.
If anybody knows his mailing address, I'll send them $25.
She's worse than he, but I think the Democrats are in trouble because I don't think they really have a candidate right now.
They got nobody.
tim pool
That's why they're so desperate to try and bring Trump back to life.
troy nehls
Yeah, and I think right now our country, when you look at when Trump was president for the four years, I mean, we didn't have all these crises.
I mean, just name one or two.
I mean, COVID was difficult, but I thought he handled that quite well with the vaccine in record time.
But I think we need him back in 2024.
I think this guy, Donald Trump, in my humble opinion, loves this country more than just about anything.
tim pool
But what about DeSantis?
Do you think Trump would be better?
troy nehls
I think DeSantis should keep his powder dry until 2028.
I mean, he's a relatively young man.
He's in his mid-40s or so, and he's a member of Congress.
I think he's been governor now for, what, four years?
And I just think in 2028 he'd be great.
And there's competition going back and forth with our governor in Texas as well.
Who's going to get that base?
Who's going to move a further right?
But I just think everybody should just bow out and just let Donald Trump come back.
He will be the Republican nominee, and he will beat anybody.
tim pool
I want to hear two words from Donald Trump the moment he gets inaugurated.
You're fired.
Beautiful.
I want him to just fire all of these bureaucratic administrative state trash people in DC.
troy nehls
We have a lot of talent.
I mean, when you think of Ron DeSantis and the great things he's doing in Florida, people love him.
So I think we have a lot of good talent out there and we have people in the wings in the future.
The Democrats are just struggling.
unidentified
Who?
troy nehls
Cory Booker?
I do like Bernie better than Newsom, to be fair.
What is it specifically about Trump that energizes you so much?
Bernie? Crazy Bernie? Give me a break.
jamie kilstein
I do like Bernie better than Newsom to be fair.
tim pool
Well, Bernie, if there was any Democrat, I'd rather have Bernie, but I think Bernie's a
sellout so I think they're all good.
jamie kilstein
What is it specifically about Trump that energized you so much? Is it that he was an outsider
or is it, was it him before he ran for president or the way he governed for four years that
troy nehls
The way he ran, the way he ran, he had 14 people on that stage and he just picked them off one at a time.
He's just real.
He's, I thought he brought a lot of humor.
He was kind of funny.
I mean, yeah, nicknames and people don't like the way he calls names, but overall, and I tell you, when he come up with build that wall, build that wall, that really energized his campaign.
And so I just think that you can't buy him.
You can't buy Donald Trump.
He has all the money.
There's no special interest going to get him.
And just the way he ran the country, he deserves a third term.
tim pool
Are you familiar with the tales from an economic hitman?
So you've heard of this?
Yeah.
If Luke were here, he'd be able to educate us properly.
But the general idea is this guy said that, you know, he worked for the intelligence agencies in the U.S.
And what they would do is they would go and try and bribe, you know, uh, a
country and say like, here's what the United States wants.
We'll give you all this stuff.
If you do it, the IMF will come up with loans.
And then if the president or the government said no, then they would try
and take out either politically or through assassinations.
And if that didn't work invasion, that's what he claimed.
I think about those stories and I'm like, whether or not they're true or not.
You look at Donald Trump, he gets elected.
They didn't think he would.
He has these meetings.
They probably were like, you know, Trump, play ball with us.
Here's what we're going to do.
And he went, no, we're doing it my way.
I don't want to do it.
And then they try to remove him via, you know, a legal process, Russiagate.
That doesn't work.
So what do they do now?
Executive action.
Now they're going with the January 6th, the law enforcement stuff, the accusations, the DOJ, the FBI raids.
So they've escalated to the point where they're like, we are going to use the force of violence against this man to stop him from running.
jamie kilstein
I gotta re-read that book now.
tim pool
Yeah, it's crazy.
He was talking about, like, Panama and stuff.
jamie kilstein
And it wasn't, like, a small conspiracy book.
It was a New York Times bestseller.
It was, you know.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
troy nehls
Listen, I got a lot of people, they don't like his tweets.
They don't like what he said.
They don't like maybe some of the stuff he said about John McCain and when he was a prisoner of war and all that other stuff.
And I try to, and I, well, just there's some other things, but I've always said, I said, you guys, you're not electing your neighbor, and we're not electing the Pope.
Right?
We're electing the President of the United States, and when you look at his policies and the results of those policies, Ukraine would be the prime example.
Obama went into, what, 2014?
Went into Crimea, right?
Nobody went into Ukraine under Donald Trump, did he?
Putin didn't go into Ukraine under Donald Trump.
And so you have our adversaries that are taking and exploiting our weakness, and we have weakness in our President today.
Donald Trump ran this, I mean, just look at how he kept Man, you know what would help?
kept trying to check. I mean, I just look at no invasion from Russia while Trump was president,
tim pool
despite Crimea, that all of a sudden Trump gets in and Putin backs off.
troy nehls
I understand. So I just think, listen, I'm a Trump guy. I hope he comes back.
He doesn't drink, doesn't smoke. I think he's he's very healthy right now. I've had opportunities
to visit with him a couple of times. And and I think this country needs him more today than
jamie kilstein
ever. Man, you know, it would help you should tell him to come on the podcast.
tim pool
I think we're actually setting that up.
jamie kilstein
There you go.
tim pool
No, for real.
troy nehls
Here we go.
tim pool
Yeah, we're off to go.
troy nehls
He'd like you guys.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
jamie kilstein
We're fans.
We're good hang.
troy nehls
The thing about it is he wouldn't have to dress up.
tim pool
Well, I don't know if Jamie's a fan.
jamie kilstein
I'm not wearing shoes.
seamus coughlin
I used to, but it wasn't appreciated.
troy nehls
Seamus, I'm just kidding, buddy.
jamie kilstein
By the way, if he agrees to be in the vlog, I'm a fan.
He gets my vote.
tim pool
Oh, that would be great.
Get Trump to do like a simple bit.
I mean, he was in Home Alone, you know.
Yeah, that'd be cool if he was in New York.
So, I don't... A lot of people who are Trump zealots, you know, they're just like, Trump's the best, he can do nothing wrong.
I'm like, Trump's pretty good.
He's alright.
I didn't vote for him in 2016.
In 2022, I did.
I said, you can't deny the successes he's had.
Getting rid of the Trans-Pacific Partnership was the right move.
Every activist in the world... Okay, every activist in the United States were complaining about TPP.
Then Trump comes in and all of a sudden they're like, actually it's a good thing.
And I'm like, what?
Like during Occupy Wall Street, like all throughout everyone's like warning about this Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Trump gets in and gets rid of it.
Donald Trump, no new wars.
Starts bringing our troops back from the Middle East.
These are good things.
I was talking to someone and they told me, It was all nonsense.
He's trying to be buddy-buddy with dictators and blah blah blah.
And I was like, what does that mean?
And they're like him and Kim Jong-un.
And then I said, Donald Trump crossed the DMZ into North Korea with no security detail.
And they're like, yeah.
And I'm like, that is one of the most profound acts of leadership someone could take to try and end a war.
They could have captured the President of the United States, and they could have done whatever they wanted, and Trump walked in with Kim Jong-un and walked back, and I was just, I was shocked.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie kilstein
It's like, if Dennis Rodman can do it, I'm gonna do it.
tim pool
But I mean, in all seriousness, I mean, you're the President of the United States, walking into what should be perceived as hostile territory, I'm like, this is amazing!
unidentified
That's, yeah.
tim pool
Amazing!
I gotta vote for this guy.
And then, what happened was, his second-term agenda came out, and I was like, school choice, get rid of these, uh, cult, these critical race theory garbage stuff, and I'm just like, This dude's done well.
He deserves it.
jamie kilstein
I talk about this all the time.
I scream about it on my podcast and Twitter and all that stuff.
People need principles, not teams, right?
If you were mad when George Bush had drone strikes that killed civilians, you should be mad when Obama did it.
If you were mad- When Trump did it.
Yeah.
If you thought Trump was creepy with women, you should think that Bill Clinton was creepy with women, right?
tim pool
And Joe Biden.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it's with children.
jamie kilstein
Yeah.
I mean, there are so many instances where, and that doesn't mean suddenly you have to disavow them.
That doesn't mean you have to go from Democrat to Republican or Republican to Democrat.
It just means have the political courage to stand in your conviction and call out your side when your side is wrong in order to make your side better and hold it accountable.
And then we can actually have a more honest political discourse.
seamus coughlin
One million percent, and I really just want to hit on this point.
I made sort of a little joke alluding to it, but the president of the United States sniffs children.
And we're used to it, like we don't think of it as being that out of the ordinary.
It's just, you know, it's almost become a hackneyed punchline, but the president sniffs children.
tim pool
He gropes them too.
It's disgusting.
Wasn't there a video where he pinched a little girl's nipple or something?
unidentified
What?
troy nehls
It appears that most people, too, they look at him like a grandfather figure, and they almost kind of feel for him, like, this is Grandpa Joe, you know?
And it's almost like the excuses.
seamus coughlin
It's so weird.
troy nehls
Yeah.
I just think about our country.
Our country is begging for leadership.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
troy nehls
And I think we had that with Trump.
We don't have that with this current administration.
seamus coughlin
He's let around by his nose.
troy nehls
And we're paying the price.
We're paying the price for it.
tim pool
I think in a lot of ways DeSantis is better.
But I don't know if DeSantis would come in and do the you're fired thing.
That's the big issue, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So with Ron DeSantis, he's proven his leadership in Florida.
He's done a really great job.
And I think he'd be a fantastic president.
I'm not so sure on foreign policy that's yet to be seen.
But I'd imagine if he did get in, if he were to win in 2024, if he ran and won, he would not go, you're fired.
And he would not get rid of all these really awful people.
I think Trump He knows.
He's learned his lesson.
And he was like, I trusted some bad people.
If he gets in in 2024, it is going to be beautiful as the pink slips start getting handed out.
And then you see people walking out of the buildings in D.C.
and going into the unemployment line.
I think Trump's going to do it.
I don't think DeSantis would do it.
troy nehls
Who would have ever thought our country could be destroyed in 17 months?
unidentified
17, 18 months.
troy nehls
He's destroyed this country.
It's going to take a full four years of Donald Trump to come back and try to fix these issues.
Oil and gas is so important in Texas.
Now you have $5 fuel, inflation 8.5%.
tim pool
Oh, sorry. I was gonna say I just love the meme where the left says Joe Biden doesn't control gas
prices, idiot, but Joe Biden's going to enact policies to lower gas prices. It's like, what?
So can he enact policies to make them higher? No, but he can make them lower. Okay, dude, whatever.
seamus coughlin
And so I try to keep a sort of a larger perspective in.
And so, you know, under the Obama administration, I remember thinking like, I really, really don't like Obama.
But you know, we had FDR, we had Woodrow Wilson, maybe Obama isn't the worst president we've had.
Joe Biden may actually be the worst president in all of American history.
I mean, at least the really, really bad ones like Wilson and FDR knew what day of the week it was.
unidentified
Jimmy Carter will appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Carter.
seamus coughlin
I mean, even Carter, I would say, I would say Biden's worse than Carter. Granted, I don't
know as much about Jimmy Carter, but he's really bad. I mean, there's something, usually
when we rank a president, we're just sort of looking at them as a set of policies.
That's what we seem to do nowadays, which is kind of bizarre because this is a person who's supposed to be a leader and character does mean something when you're a leader.
But with Joe Biden, it's not just that all of his policies have been horrible for the country.
It's that He is experiencing serious cognitive decline.
Like the man's brain doesn't work.
tim pool
Let's do it.
We got this story from the New York Post.
jamie kilstein
Oh, you were so excited about this.
tim pool
You take your seat.
Very specific cheat sheet reminds Biden how to act.
Look at this.
Why did he hold it up?
seamus coughlin
You have to know you're the president.
tim pool
Joe Biden was speaking, he was holding up a card and it says, you enter the Roosevelt room and say hello to participants.
You take your seat.
Like you is in big, bold letters and yours is in big, bold letters.
Like, dude, there's something wrong with this guy's brain.
seamus coughlin
You tell Ukraine that the funds will be withheld.
jamie kilstein
Maybe someone played a joke on him at number five was you hold card up to camera.
And he's like, okay.
troy nehls
You know, you think about Joe and his cognitive, you know, and I tell you what, there's one person I'm really, really frustrated with.
And I think that it's Jill Biden.
Listen, she'd been married to this guy for years.
She knows him better than anybody.
jamie kilstein
Would you like to throw in the towel?
troy nehls
Well, I'm just saying that, you know what, I don't know if she wanted to be the first lady so bad and have that power, or if she wanted to make sure that her husband reached that pinnacle, but I'm really frustrated with her because she knows her husband better than anybody, and she knew he was going to be like this, but she didn't care.
And now the American people are paying for this thing.
Because of what?
Because she wanted to see her husband accomplish something, or maybe this was more about her becoming, you know, the first lady.
tim pool
She's a doctor.
troy nehls
Shameful.
lydia smith
That's right.
troy nehls
Shameful.
jamie kilstein
I mean, the Democrats hated Trump so much.
I remember everybody I used to hang out with, we weren't fans of Biden.
Biden was part of the corporate left, and suddenly these same people were doing everything in their power to elect a guy who they knew.
We knew.
I didn't vote for him, but we knew would not be good.
Hillary Clinton.
I didn't know it would be this bad.
Yeah, well, Clinton, same deal.
Hating the Clintons forever!
And now you're acting like you're a sexist if you're not gonna vote for her.
tim pool
Occupy Wall Street was anti-Obama.
The people down there were like, Obama's trash.
And then it's like 2016 comes around and they're like, we've forgotten all about that.
We like him now.
jamie kilstein
Hope and change, baby.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, that's a very good point about Joe Biden, though.
I mean, she should know, right?
This man has literally lost his mind.
It's just, why did they pick him?
It's insane.
Dr. Jill, I'm sorry.
They used to joke about Reagan, and they would say, you know, towards the end of Reagan's presidency, he experienced some cognitive decline, and that was sort of a little jab they'd make at Republicans.
Look, a person you elected back when they were mentally healthy ended up experiencing cognitive decline.
How irresponsible is your party that he wasn't immediately removed from power?
During the primaries, Joe Biden was clearly demented or suffering with Alzheimer's.
tim pool
Yo, his teeth fell out.
seamus coughlin
His brain was not functioning at like any point.
And I say this like, look, if I was discussing any other senior citizen experiencing cognitive decline, I would probably take a more somber approach to this.
But this is the president, and they knew this.
They put the man in this position knowing his brain does not work.
jamie kilstein
Stop being ageist and ableist, Seamus.
tim pool
No, we're trying to defend them.
jamie kilstein
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, whenever they show like Obama, and they're like, this is how he looked in the beginning of his presidency, and then they show him with gray hair, it's like, yo, Joe Biden started looking rough.
Where does that go?
troy nehls
Seamus, you're right.
I mean, this is the leader of the free world that we have as our President of the United States.
And the media covers for him, you know?
I mean, we have gas at five bucks.
I mean, I've said it how many times, and he's taking walks on the beach, but he's got to have his handlers.
If it's not the bunny rabbit during Easter, it's the grandchildren and the others saying, come on, honey, we got to go.
We got to pull you over here.
tim pool
Real quick, I just want to give a shout out to The Onion for this article.
Stress of presidency already ages Biden ten years.
lydia smith
Oh my.
tim pool
You gotta give him credit where credit is due.
jamie kilstein
I guess so.
seamus coughlin
You know, he should really be ashamed of this inflation and gas being five bucks a gallon.
I think it was like two cents a gallon when he was a kid, right?
They were still dinosaurs when he was a kid, to be fair.
They were still walking around.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Had been crushed into crude oil, but no, it's shameful.
tim pool
Dinosaurs aren't oil shameless.
seamus coughlin
I know, it's the plant life, but people say dinosaurs are the funny little punchline.
tim pool
We don't support the fake news on this show.
seamus coughlin
I know, you're right.
Thank you, thank you, Ministry of Truth.
You're going to sing me a musical about it?
Yeah, exactly.
My joke was that I didn't mean to spread misinformation about oil.
I'm saying that Joe Biden is old, all right?
jamie kilstein
He's old, everybody.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, Tim is getting on me for being factually inaccurate when I'm morally correct.
tim pool
Well, I was reading Snopes earlier and I was just thinking, like, I shouldn't let Seamus get away with these jokes.
seamus coughlin
This misinformation.
tim pool
This misinformation, yeah.
seamus coughlin
I know, it's troubling.
And I think, you know, there's something to be said for the fact that no, Joe Biden is not the sole culprit here, but he was part of the establishment that led to all of these problems.
It's not like he's just some fall guy who had nothing to do with this.
tim pool
That card he's holding up, we are literally in Weekend at Biden's.
seamus coughlin
I know.
jamie kilstein
Yeah.
tim pool
It's true.
seamus coughlin
No, that's what it is.
tim pool
They're holding up his...
Someone was just like...
It wouldn't be funny if someone was always standing next to him.
Just like unreasonably close.
You're like, what's going on?
lydia smith
You can't see their arm.
seamus coughlin
What was his one word that described America?
Do you remember this?
jamie kilstein
Guys, maybe that's why he's getting so close to the kids, is the kids are whispering him his lines he forgot.
lydia smith
Oh, I see what it is.
jamie kilstein
So there you go.
I figured it out.
You're welcome, Joe Biden.
lydia smith
I like that.
unidentified
Let's see the the press secretary tells that oh here we go it's nothing that they can yeah Hold on guys this is important Because you guys need to know you guys need to here we go you ready that nation that can be defined in a single word I was gonna put him What is... And then he ends up saying at the foothills of the Himalayas.
tim pool
What?
Oh, this poor old guy, man.
seamus coughlin
Here's the thing, I would feel bad for him if, like, alright, first of all, if he wasn't a horrible person doing horrible things who should have stepped down.
And also, if we were being gaslit about this, he has a speech impediment, excuse me?
That's what a lisp does?
No.
Wrong.
Incorrect.
His brain is not functioning.
Also, he's a plagiarist.
Some British politician probably had this gaffe first.
tim pool
That'd be funny if it happened.
troy nehls
Why are they even talking about a second term though?
I don't think he's denied it.
tim pool
He's claiming he's going to run.
troy nehls
Yeah.
So think about that now.
The current condition he's in in another three years.
jamie kilstein
That is insane.
That is insane.
troy nehls
Yes.
tim pool
Are they just hoping that this country is so tribalized that people will vote for him?
jamie kilstein
Well, that's what happened the first time.
tim pool
Well, the first time people hated Trump.
Maybe they're hoping they can do a repeat, but I really doubt it.
I think the five bucks per gallon thing really irked some people.
jamie kilstein
Yeah.
tim pool
I like the joke I was making earlier.
I really doubt you're gonna go to a gas station and someone's gonna be, like, screaming.
And it turns out they're screaming over January 6th.
jamie kilstein
January 6th, yeah.
tim pool
No, it's...
seamus coughlin
No, there was actually breaking news.
Biden plagiarized his gaffe from a British politician.
The one thing we can say about England is...
tim pool
Trinidad and Nassau but a pressure.
Do you remember that one, Troy?
troy nehls
No, I can't say I have, but I do know this, is that they actually feel that he has a chance when he comes back.
I really believe that.
That if he would seek another term, and if you look at what happened with the election in 2020 and the way that thing was handled and managed, and you start giving everybody ballots, You could see, I mean- I wasn't- I'll need an effective strategy to mobilize true international pressure!
unidentified
Oh boy.
I'll need an effective strategy to mobilize true international pressure!
tim pool
No, no, the best part is, they're clapping.
Like when he says it.
seamus coughlin
Yes!
We need true international pressure!
tim pool
He said, Batacaf care.
troy nehls
He's loud there.
He's trying to demonstrate strength by being very vocal and like he's a hard charger.
jamie kilstein
They probably think you're nalescent.
seamus coughlin
I think Putin saw that and he's like, I can have you, Craig.
tim pool
Next Nell Ressent, Bada Kefkar, Trudonoshabba da Pressure, and Asitifogosifoga.
jamie kilstein
They probably think it's new progressive terms and they don't want to get in trouble if they
It's like Latina X. They're like, okay, that's a new one.
tim pool
Jake Paul said he created a new incomprehensible language.
Old man is just up there muttering to himself and people are clapping for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why I'm like, I don't know.
I'm kind of, I'm kind of a pessimistic on this one.
jamie kilstein
He's an innovator of language, baby.
tim pool
The American people are going to vote for that.
That's scary.
troy nehls
Well, the polls have showed, what is he?
unidentified
32, 33%.
troy nehls
And so the real question is the way 30, I got to talk to those.
seamus coughlin
I know, I know.
troy nehls
That's what I'm saying.
Who are these 30%?
Who are they?
Where are they?
And what are they thinking?
seamus coughlin
I cannot imagine 30% of the country going, you know, this guy's doing a great job.
troy nehls
They don't drive cars.
jamie kilstein
They're the ones who are all working at the mainstream media.
tim pool
We should do a bit where, you know, Jamie's just like, I actually think should I not shop at Precious a good thing?
jamie kilstein
Yeah.
tim pool
What is that?
And be like, it's a good thing?
jamie kilstein
It's a great thing.
It's a great thing.
And it's, uh, it's diversive.
tim pool
And Batacav care.
We love Batacav care.
I've always supported Batacav care.
jamie kilstein
You know, I mean, when Noam Chomsky talked about out of business care, I supported it then, I'll support it now.
tim pool
But I wonder if, just like, how do they answer this?
Do they act like it doesn't exist?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, no.
They say he has a speech impediment.
He has a lisp.
That's what they constantly claim.
unidentified
When people make fun of him for the way he talks, they go... Remember when he kept saying Libya instead of Syria?
seamus coughlin
When... Yes.
Yeah, also... That's scary.
Again, Commander-in-Chief of the military probably shouldn't be mislabeling countries like that.
Little bit frightening.
tim pool
Little bit concerning.
He's gonna be like, we got a bomb!
He's gonna be talking to the Joint Chiefs, but we got a bomb, Libya!
And they're like, are you sure?
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
And then they're like, okay.
And then later they're like, Why is the U.S.
engaged in a military conflict in Libya?
And Biden's gonna be like, oh no, I meant Syria.
The media corrects for him.
They translate for him.
seamus coughlin
They're like, we dropped the bomb on Libya.
He's like, go pick it up, man.
Drop it in Syria instead.
jamie kilstein
Biden, why'd you sniff that kid?
I have a lisp.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, come on, man.
He has a lisp, you heartless person.
Yeah, they will like scold you.
It is hilarious that people have been scolded for criticizing him.
I can't remember who this was.
It was on one of these news networks, you know, MSNBS or CNN or whatever.
And they're going, How how how do you think children with lisps are going to feel when they see the way you're making fun of the president or the Potential president for the way he speaks.
It's like what that's not No, a lisp does not make you say poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids That's not how a lisp works.
tim pool
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Matthew Reckamp says, new report on Yuvaldi.
I swear, the more I hear about what those officers did, or more specifically didn't do, the more I'm convinced they should be charged not as accessories, but as accomplices.
I was saying this before, I was saying either on accident or on purpose, they helped this guy.
It's great, because they were stopping people.
Daryl Lyon says, first and obligatory civil war.
Micro Sapple says, you never told us about the anti-Ben Shapiro doorknob.
So when we got, uh, we had to evacuate because we had a credible threat.
That's not right.
So we turn on the wide shot and people notice the doorknob is at the top of the door.
And it's actually for a really simple reason.
So that it's not in the camera frame on the show.
But people were calling it the anti-Ben Shapiro doorknob because it's very tall.
unidentified
That's not right.
tim pool
But these are people who are like fans of Ben Shapiro.
Okay.
troy nehls
Smart guy, smart guy.
tim pool
But I will say this.
I'll tell you this.
When you see all these memes where they're saying, like, Ben is 5'4", 5'5", I actually believed it.
And then I met him and he's like just a little bit shorter than I am.
And I'm 5'10".
And so he's like 5'8 or something.
troy nehls
Well, Jamie, you look up to him.
jamie kilstein
He's taller than me.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie kilstein
I was furious when I found out that.
I can still beat him up, but I'm still not happy.
troy nehls
He doesn't have ears like you.
jamie kilstein
He doesn't have ears like me.
No, sir, he doesn't.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
tim pool
We were, uh, I was talking with Jamie and then you said something about him being short.
I'm like, actually, he's kind of, he's like average size.
He's like, he's like 5'8 and a half or something.
And you were like, he's taller than me.
jamie kilstein
I was like, I guess I am below average size.
Cool.
Dude, I gotta say, your fans, I've been interacting more on Twitter than I usually do, or my mental health says I should.
Your fans are, even when they're poking fun at me, legitimately the funniest fans I've ever dealt with.
They're hysterical.
tim pool
Good engagement.
jamie kilstein
Good engagement.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
What do we got?
I'm not your buddy guy says you've mentioned the shadow campaign numerous times when analyzing Did you ask yourself if signature verification is removed?
What would this cause?
Also, why trust Barr when he's the same man who said Epstein offed himself and oversaw DOJ when Epstein abused children?
jamie kilstein
Hold on.
What does all of that mean buddy?
tim pool
It's a bit esoteric.
This is one of the biggest challenges with all of these big stories, especially with Epstein, is the average person doesn't know about it.
So I would say the shadow campaign was a Time magazine article where they claimed that a bunch of powerful interests got together to defeat Donald Trump in 2020.
If they remove signature verification, it would mean that there would be a higher rate of acceptance among mail-in votes.
And why trust Barr?
I don't.
Not a big fan.
But what more can I say?
I think we want to focus on encouraging people to vote, especially now in the midterms.
Demoralization and telling people, you know, that there's widespread fraud and stuff.
It's just going to make it, it's going to convince people not to be involved.
Tell people to just go out and vote because no matter what, voting helps your side.
It helps your, it's just, you got to do it.
You got to do it.
Um, my view of that, just without, you know, beating a dead horse, the shadow campaign talked about the legal efforts they took.
You might not like what they did.
I certainly don't, but it was clever lawfare over a year.
It wasn't weird stories about the CIA in Germany and like watermarked ballots or Chinese ballots or anything like that.
I think it was just, they pulled out all the stops and said, what legal hurdles do we need to overcome to make sure we get as many ballots in for our guy?
And they did it and it worked for them.
I genuinely believe people voted for Joe Biden because people did not like Donald Trump.
Alright, but let's just, you know, read some more Superchats.
Matthew Thomas says, I'm getting real tired of the Republicans holding the moral high ground.
If they don't return in kind when they get power, I'll only vote Libertarian from here out.
Dems contested every election lost.
Isn't that true?
Like, every single Republican election over the past, like, 60 years.
troy nehls
Well, they've objected to three, back to Bush.
They objected to three.
They certainly did.
seamus coughlin
Which is a threat to our democracy, by the way.
Goes without saying.
tim pool
Well, their democracy is not.
That's why they say this.
Because when they do, it's not a threat to their democracy.
It empowers it.
Our constitutional republic.
This is a threat to our constitutional republic.
Yes.
Heather V says, hey Tim hired him back.
How did the interview with Vice go?
unidentified
LOL.
tim pool
Enjoying you on Cast Plus.
jamie kilstein
Look, if you watch the vlog, while I've said I've been having a good time here on the podcast, would I like to be hired back at some of these left-leaning places that aren't taking my calls?
You know, watch the vlog and find out.
Did I briefly think that Vice wanted an interview?
If you want to watch the first episode of the vlog, I believe it is called Woke journalist tries to cancel transphobic skater to work at Vice.
And did I think it worked?
Maybe.
Did I curse off the staff and leave the house saying I'm never coming back?
And was it a setup by Vice?
Perhaps.
Again, I would go to youtube.com slash cascastle and catch up on the vlog.
I'm happy to be here tonight, but that's mainly just because I'm drinking.
tim pool
Here's a good one.
This is crazy.
GatorBait says, Is that considered a death threat?
Wow!
by Facebook and was memorialized due to someone reporting my account saying I was dead.
Is that considered a death threat?
jamie kilstein
Wow.
tim pool
Wow, that's crazy.
They just memorialize your page and you're alive?
jamie kilstein
Can you imagine getting a notification being like, sorry, you're dead?
lydia smith
You're like, is this happening?
tim pool
I don't think they'd give you one.
I think they would just shut it down and lock you out and be like, cause you're dead.
lydia smith
Sorry you died.
jamie kilstein
Wow.
tim pool
You know what the creepiest thing is?
They're talking about using your Facebook profile to create an AI chat bot of you.
jamie kilstein
No.
tim pool
Yeah, so like your grandpa dies, and then you can go on Facebook and talk to your grandpa, and it'll give you answers.
It'll learn from what you tell it, and it will speak back based on its memories and photos and comments and all that stuff.
seamus coughlin
And your grandfather will say, I think you should purchase Nabisco products because they're the highest quality.
The great advice I always get from pops.
jamie kilstein
Facebook is good.
troy nehls
Can your grandpa vote?
lydia smith
Oh yeah, that's the real question.
tim pool
And then he says something like, you know, in my time here I've realized Mark Zuckerberg's a pretty cool guy.
You're like, gee grandpa, I've never heard you say that before.
jamie kilstein
Stop getting mad at him for building homes in Hawaii.
tim pool
It's not actually a chatbot behind the other side, it's Mark Zuckerberg and he's typing.
Mark Zuckerberg rules.
jamie kilstein
He is great, he is a handsome boy.
tim pool
All right.
Gage Gosnell says, Nebraska here would love to see a Timcast shooting range.
Might even be better if you name it after a rhino in the area.
Ben's ass shooting range?
What is that?
Oh, an example.
I see.
Well, I don't know.
We wanted to do a range, but it's actually pretty difficult.
lydia smith
You'd imagine.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it's not just about having the land.
It's about... I don't want to be responsible for really dumb people.
So it's like, we'll probably have some form of a range, but it's not going to be like any kind of substantial one or anything like that.
West Virginia is awesome though, because, you know, I was talking to the cops and I was like, how does it work?
We're shooting.
And they're like, what do you mean?
And I was like, you know, like on your property, you want to go shoot?
And they're like, what do you mean?
And I was like, well, are there like rules?
And they were like, just don't hit somebody.
seamus coughlin
They're like, yeah, the only rule is you're required to shoot.
tim pool
They were like, you mean you're not shooting on your property?
And I'll be like, no, I'm like, come with me, sir.
And they're like, what's happening?
No, but they were basically just like, have sufficient backstop.
Make sure you're not, you know, you don't injure anybody.
Cause that's going to be on you.
You're responsible for whatever happens, but there's nothing stopping you from shooting on your property.
jamie kilstein
I'm a huge, I've been a huge advocate of the staff here going on shooting field trips and also all learning jujitsu and just turning into animals.
tim pool
Yes.
There's a public range up on the mountain, not too far.
Yeah.
So it's actually really cool because you'll go out there and you'll hear shots and you, it's like a, actually it's a really good spot.
It's a massive like 25, 30 foot backstop and there's like a straight path to it so you don't accidentally walk in and you can see people.
And then you'll go there and you'll, you'll see people.
It's really, really cool.
You'll hang out.
And we saw some, some, some guy with his son.
He had a mini 14 and we were like, Oh, cool.
And he's giving us good pointers.
They were zeroing the sites and everything was fun.
The one thing though, is the cost of ammo got so high that people weren't coming out as much, you know?
troy nehls
I think we should do that one day.
The four of us should go out and... Whoa.
seamus coughlin
Oh, absolutely.
troy nehls
And I'll out-shoot you.
jamie kilstein
Can you teach me?
I'll out-shoot you.
tim pool
Hands down, you will out-shoot me.
jamie kilstein
I have... I can't speak.
This is the Congressman's real attitude.
I have, within the couple hours I've known him, seen him challenge someone to pool, almost wrestle me, and now challenge me to a shooting.
He is ready to go.
troy nehls
Until I saw your ears now, Jamie.
jamie kilstein
Yeah, he backed down with the wrestling.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right, all right.
tim pool
We got Chris Pavotto says, My seven-year-old son has Down syndrome.
Why are red states slow to fund special therapies and services with Medicaid for family members needing assistance, while blue states fund more?
Texas needs more family support.
I did research this because moving to Texas, please help.
troy nehls
Well, and I feel horrible about that, and I think we certainly should help America's families that have children with special needs.
So, the only thing I could say is please reach out to my office.
I don't know where you live, I don't know what district you're in, but you can please reach out to my office and we'll do what we can to address that issue.
I don't have an answer for you right now, but I think it's good that we could engage.
We should engage.
tim pool
All right, IDG says Shelley Moore Crepito and other senators can be recalled by state legislatures the way the founders intended if we repeal the 17th amendment.
Keep that on billboards and you will shake up the uniparty.
Yeah, so, you know the 17th Amendment, right?
troy nehls
Yeah, go ahead.
tim pool
We used to have it, it used to be that the state legislature would vote, they would appoint the senators who would go up to the federal government.
And then for a variety of reasons, namely what they said was fear of corruption, because legislators would then be like, I'll do a favor for you, I can do what I want.
They switched it to the popular vote.
I think that was a mistake.
I think it's only made things worse.
I think that if our senator was based on the state legislatures, people would be more paying attention to their state races, to their local elections, which is substantially more important for where you live than federal elections.
All right, let's read some more.
What do we have here?
S.R.
Dempsey says, can Republicans get an inventory of all who are inside of Congress on 1-6 and their affiliation?
It seems more than just Trump supporters were inside that building.
That's true.
At least one guy and a woman were leftists.
They claim they're just there documenting.
They didn't get charged or anything like that.
But I wonder who else.
troy nehls
Yeah.
I think you're going to find that there were other groups there.
They weren't all Trump supporters there.
You're going to find Antifa.
I mean, you could sit here, and I know you guys know the name Ray Epps and the scaffold commander, but Ray Epps, he still hasn't been arrested, so there's a lot of questions that need to be asked, but you're not getting it from this J6 committee.
You're going to get it from us, though.
You're going to get it from the five of us that are on this shadow committee, and I talk about it in my book.
tim pool
Right on.
All right.
Peas and Butter says, how do we know you will use your red wave win wisely?
What is your 5 to 10 year plan?
What is your 2023 agenda?
troy nehls
Well, this is what I do know, is that there's 435 of us.
And every two years, we get out there and we stomp in our districts.
And we're going to tell that people, the conservatives like myself, that we're going to reduce taxes.
We need less government.
We need to get less regulation.
Get the government out of our business.
And then many of us get elected, and then many of us get up here, and we either do nothing or do just the opposite.
And I'm not one of those guys.
That's why I'm proud to be part of that Freedom Caucus, because I stay true to myself, I stay true to my voters, and believe it or not, what that does for me is I can sleep with a clear conscience, and I sleep like a baby as a result.
tim pool
Yeah, we like the Freedom Caucus guys.
lydia smith
We do, yeah.
tim pool
You know, I like when Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey were talking about how they have somebody on rotation to make sure that whenever there's a vote, they call all the Congress people to come and actually vote on it.
So, a lot of people didn't know this until we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on, that a lot of the votes on bills are like, just proxy.
It's like there's a handful of Democrats and Republicans and they're just like, meh.
and then no one actually comes in and votes on these bills in Congress.
So when she mentioned that she calls for a floor vote to make everyone come down,
people were cheering, like, make them do their jobs.
troy nehls
Yeah, they call that the roll call vote. There's been a lot of proxy voting because of COVID.
I think when we take over the House, I think Lyndon McCarthy will do away with the proxy voting.
tim pool
Cool. All right, where we got?
Tasty Waffle says, Tim, can you clarify what the 2A SCOTUS ruling will mean for people, especially in California?
Do we now get constitutional carry nationwide?
Haven't sat down to read it yet.
No.
Brett Kavanaugh said states that require permits for handguns can still do so.
This ruling will not affect them.
Sorry.
Thanks, Kavanaugh.
Clarence Thomas said requiring someone to state a reason as to why they need to defend themselves is a violation of the Second Amendment and the Fourteenth.
So this should impact California that they are required If they're going to have a concealed carry permit, I believe they basically have to know.
If you can check all the boxes off on their criteria, they have to give you the permit.
So that's fascinating.
And your right extends outside the home, so this is big as well.
So you can walk around with that concealed carry so long as you get your permit.
Or you can move to Texas or West Virginia and you don't need one.
jamie kilstein
Hey, Congressman, can I actually ask you a gun question, too, when it comes to lefty talking points that I'm sure there is a counter to that I've never heard in my life when it comes to background checks or issues like this that happen with the Supreme Court?
Are those also far more or far less effective than people on the left think, where we think maybe it'll solve everything if there is a longer waiting period, if there are stricter background checks, red flag laws and things like that?
Does that actually help or is it just Well, I don't know, Jamie.
troy nehls
I think that 72 hours is reasonable.
I do know that people that have gone to purchase a firearm that had a background check have been denied for one reason or another.
So, no, I think the background checks are effective.
I mean, I know firsthand, because I've talked to people that have been rejected for one reason or another.
Maybe it was a criminal offense, maybe even 20, 25 years ago, and then they have to work through that process.
So, I believe the background checks are a good thing, and I think the American people support them.
tim pool
All right, Captain Tanker Joe says, I think the diesel shortage is going to be worse than expected.
I've seen fuel jump 10 to 15 cents overnight.
I've seen videos of people saying they've been stopped for days waiting for fuel already.
The shortage is starting already, I'm afraid.
I did see some tweets from people saying that some gas stations have run out of gas.
It could just be because sometimes gas stations run out of gas.
However, we are hearing a lot in the news that there's gonna be a diesel shortage, and that's gonna result in food prices going through the roof because farmers need diesel to actually tend to the crops to harvest.
So it's gonna have a massive ripple effect.
A lot of people tell me never to say this, but I just bought more emergency food.
Just, you know, full disclosure, I did.
Got these buckets, they last 25 years.
Because my worst case scenario is, well, the worst case scenario is I guess the apocalypse happens and you need to eat them.
The best case scenario is you got Fuji's to eat it anyway.
They're pretty good.
All right.
Wandering Mage says, During the House Judiciary meeting on the omnibus, gun control rep Nadler went ballistic at the idea of raising the draft age.
He yelled about national security, but it felt like he sees us as his toy soldiers, and the draft.
troy nehls
Yeah.
Oh, Jerry.
I didn't hear what he had to say.
I have no comment because I'd have to get more information on that.
Jerry Nadler is an interesting fella.
He is the Chairman of the Judiciary.
I've tried to work with him to get some legislation to his committee because, folks, if you don't understand, if you want to get anything on the House, if you want to get a vote on the House floor, you've got to go through the Committee of Jurisdiction.
I've tried to do some things in law enforcement-related matters, criminal justice reform, and Jerry Lander just doesn't want to hear any of it.
So, I don't have a whole lot of love for him because I think he's out of tune and out of touch.
tim pool
Oh yeah, remember when he said Antifa was just an idea or whatever?
Alright, Rory F. says, Rep Nails, are you re-electing McCarthy as Majority Leader?
Why or why not?
I see a lot of lobbyist money that's also going to the DCCC and major Dem bills.
troy nehls
You know, that's a great question, and we were talking about that the other day, and I'm a realist, and I'm telling you right now that Leader McCarthy has raised an enormous amount of money, it's record amount of money, to help get the majority.
There is no other answer.
Leader McCarthy, I'm telling you right now, Kevin McCarthy is going to be the Speaker of the House.
And that's it.
So now we just have to do everything we can to try to hold him accountable.
We must hold him accountable.
tim pool
But he doesn't want to impeach you either.
troy nehls
If the American people, I don't know if he does want to or not, but if the American people, and you are going to give us the gavel back, we have to take care of it because Republicans are sick and tired of this.
When we had both chambers of Congress, when we had Paul Ryan, we had both chambers, we had Donald Trump, what did we do for our southern border?
We didn't do a damn thing.
Donald Trump had to do it on his own through executive order.
So I just think that the Republican Party better be very, very careful that if we don't take care of that gavel and do right for the American people and start putting the American people first, we're going to end up giving it right back and we're going to lose the confidence of the American people.
tim pool
I think McCarthy said he didn't want to impeach Biden.
I think that was his stance.
I'm not a big fan.
I'm not confident that if he becomes Speaker of the House, we're going to see a lot of change.
I think it'll be, once again, Republicans slow rolling, Democrats go on the speed limit.
I'd like to see Thomas Massey as Speaker of the House.
That'd be a whole lot of fun.
But at the same time, There's the challenge of, do you take what you can get, or what do you do?
I think there's a lot of people hearing that.
It would be McCarthy, would probably vote Libertarian instead.
Because there's just the confidence in the Republican leadership is just... The Freedom Caucus is great, but... But we'll see, man.
We'll see.
Alright, let's see.
Alex Bradley says, Criminals can 3D print pistols with an internet connection and 300 bucks.
Why is this even a discussion?
Just educate.
Yep!
You can 3D print guns.
Crazy.
Plastic and a nail or whatever.
jamie kilstein
I feel like every time I'm on the show, I learn something that I didn't know that's going to give me nightmares.
troy nehls
I haven't seen one.
Have you guys seen one?
jamie kilstein
No.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
troy nehls
I haven't.
I have to be honest.
tim pool
Control-Q.
They're 3D-printed gun advocates, and they post videos all the time.
You look at these videos of 3D-printed guns, and you're like, wow.
No joke.
They're well-designed.
It's crazy.
Some of them require more metal parts than others.
The first, I believe, was the Liberator, and it was basically a single-shot 9mm or something.
But they've advanced the technology of 3D-printed guns, where they've got, like... People have been telling me, almost entirely plastic-based, 3D-printed.
3D printers have come a long way.
Plus, there's also CNC machines, so it's really easy to make guns at home.
Not to mention, there are those videos that guys have on YouTube where they take, like, two pipes.
I'm not gonna say much beyond that, but, like, literally two pipes and there's a shotgun.
So, you know, I don't know.
I don't know, man.
jamie kilstein
Man, we grew up digging for the anarchist cookbook.
That was our big thing.
We didn't have 3D printers or guns.
Kids these days.
tim pool
Yoder says, Tim, Ian and you guys need to look up the Battle of Athens, Tennessee, 1946.
Oh yeah, yeah, we're familiar.
Justification that we need 2A to defend ourselves against tyrannical government.
It would really be cool if you guys did a documentary on this.
That would be cool.
I don't think, I don't know if it would be a full doc, it'd be a short doc, mini doc maybe.
But the Battle of Athens, you guys know about it?
jamie kilstein
No.
tim pool
Veterans came back from World War II and the town was corrupt and taken over, so they Basically reclaim the town.
jamie kilstein
Whoa, that should be a movie.
seamus coughlin
I was gonna say, you can't make a documentary about it.
jamie kilstein
Let's write the movie.
troy nehls
Who would play the leading role, Jamie?
jamie kilstein
I mean, obviously the very tall and handsome Jamie Kilstein.
tim pool
Tina Colette says, why does no one ever point out that the two teens who got gunned down in the Chazz were running for safety from just having carjacked the Jeep they were driving?
Running from just having carjacked?
They stole the Jeep and then they got shot and killed.
I don't know, man.
You know, if Washington and Oregon were like, we want to secede from the Union, I'd be like, hey, don't let me stop you.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Like, you guys do your thing.
California, man.
They got a lot of food, but yikes.
What's going on in those states?
The prophet says Obama loves hot dogs.
It's because it's from Chicago.
People don't understand this.
In those emails that got leaked, Obama was like, I'm gonna order $30,000 worth of hot dogs and pizza, so I'm in for a party.
And then people were like, that must be code for something, because it makes no sense.
And I'm like, dude, he's talking about Portillo's and Giordano's.
Or, or Maxwell Street and Lou Malnati's.
But we, it's funny, I always say this.
I'm always like, yeah, we just ordered, I think we ordered $1,000 in pizza and hot dogs from Chicago to come here for a party.
Because you order Giordano's online, famous Chicago deep dish, and Portillo's hot dogs.
They're amazing.
There's celery, salt, pickles, pork peppers.
jamie kilstein
Maybe he's doing it for Mega Month with us.
tim pool
Well, this was back like they had a party at the White House.
And everyone thought it was a grand conspiracy.
And I'm like, dude, if a guy from Chicago is having a party for all of his friends and he spends 30 grand to fly out this expensive food, he's rich.
He's flying out famous Chicago food.
jamie kilstein
Rich people like Chicago hot dogs.
unidentified
That's cool.
tim pool
Oh, bro, you don't understand.
Chicago has... No, I know, I know.
There was a couple of restaurants that were some of the most notable restaurants in the country for selling hot dogs.
It was crazy.
They had, like, ostrich and eel hot dogs, and they had, like, foie gras hot dogs.
It's crazy.
Chicago's got food.
jamie kilstein
Yeah, man.
tim pool
And then you got the famous Maxwell Street.
You know Maxwell Street.
You get the Polish sausage with the mustard and the onions on it.
And then you've got Lou Malnati's, you got Giordano's, you got Uno's.
Oh, man, pizza, pizza.
jamie kilstein
Oh, no, I'm hungry now.
tim pool
Yep, yep.
We've got a whole bunch of Giordano's downstairs throwing in.
jamie kilstein
What?
seamus coughlin
It's really good.
They don't send it with the sauce packets though anymore.
unidentified
I know!
seamus coughlin
That's the economy today.
tim pool
And it looks like they're putting a layer of crust on top of the cheese.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
It's not as good.
They've had to make them cheaper or something.
I think that's what it was.
tim pool
Yeah, so we were ordering them for a while and deep dish pizza is like a big layer of cheese with sauce on top and you get a sauce pack to make it saucier.
Now there's no sauce pack and it looks like there's a layer of dough on top.
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
We gotta just like get our own sauce or something.
I don't know, man.
jamie kilstein
Can you guys fix that if you win?
troy nehls
You can't fix Chicago.
jamie kilstein
That was a slick answer.
troy nehls
No way.
jamie kilstein
That was a slick answer.
tim pool
Low blow.
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, having lived, grown up there, I'm not sure that you can.
It's like 80 years of Democrat leadership and people just don't learn.
lydia smith
That's what you get.
tim pool
They're like, I voted for the Democrat last time and everything's worse.
I'm gonna vote for a Democrat again.
jamie kilstein
I love Chicago.
tim pool
All right, let's just grab a couple more of these super chats.
All right, what do we got?
Daniel Brent says the police have no responsibility to protect us.
They will sit back while children are murdered, Yuvaldi and Parkland.
Compromised institutions filled with cowards just like the GOP.
troy nehls
Listen, I don't think that's very fair.
Most of us that have served in this business for 30 years, yes, we're questioning the judgment of those officers.
And they're going to have a lot to live with.
There's no question about it.
I don't know what they were thinking.
I know they were trying to listen to the chief of police or something, but it would have been hell or high water.
I would have gone in there no matter what.
And you're taught in alert training.
Everyone's taught in alert training that when you get to an active shooter scene, you go in even if you're by yourself.
I don't care if you have a vest or a shield or a shotgun or whatever.
You go in.
And they chose not to.
unidentified
Wow.
troy nehls
And they're going to have to live with that.
And I think it's horrible.
I didn't agree with their actions.
But I don't think it's fair to paint us all in that type of a light.
jamie kilstein
The story that came out... Oh, sorry.
Well, the story that came out today, I think it came out today, about the husband or boyfriend who was armed and was stopped by the police who wanted to go in and save his wife or girlfriend who was killed was just gutting.
That guy was gonna be a hero.
He was gonna go be a hero and save his wife.
tim pool
One last one, and it's a good one.
Gnarly Marley says, if you claim to be for gun rights, why are you not actively trying to abolish the NFA?
Well, I'll phrase that in a question for you, Congressman.
Are you in favor of abolishing the NFA?
The National Firearms Act?
troy nehls
No.
You're not?
I would have to do more research on it.
All I do know is I support the Second Amendment.
This legislation coming across from the Senate, it may be tomorrow, it may not be tomorrow, but I won't support it.
I don't believe You know, if we want to do everything we can to try to help prevent shootings and protect our children, as we should.
My wife's a principal of an elementary school.
We need to harden our schools.
We need to put law enforcement officers in our school.
Trained law enforcement officers in our school as well.
So I think that's a step in the right direction.
But I think it's sad that the left, every time you have a tragedy like this take place, they try to exploit those deaths and then they try to trample on people like me and my rights as an American citizen.
tim pool
The NFA basically makes it prohibitively expensive for people to get short-barreled rifles, suppressors, and select-fire rifles.
troy nehls
Well, listen, I support the idea of having suppressors because I have such hearing loss now.
And so I think that, listen, I support the Second Amendment.
And I will continue to do so.
And I don't believe that our government should be toying with this and playing with this.
tim pool
I tried buying suppressors and I haven't been able to get them because it's literally impossible because of the NFA.
So the requirements to actually get an NFA item for me would require me to stop working.
And so I get it, it's my choice to run a company, but because of the rules set forth and the amount of time it takes, I'm not able to get them.
I think I should be able to go into a gun store and say, I'll take one suppressor, please.
And they hand it to me and I put it in a box and that's it.
It's an accessory.
But because of the NFA, I'm never going to be able to get one.
troy nehls
I've been doing this 30 years and I've been to many, many crime scenes.
I've never been to a scene in 30 years where anybody has used a gun to go out and kill somebody that's had a suppressor on it.
jamie kilstein
Really?
tim pool
Not one?
Because suppressors don't actually make it sound like a pew-pew like in the movies.
jamie kilstein
Right.
troy nehls
I understand.
jamie kilstein
It's all movie stuff.
seamus coughlin
No, it's true.
Like, they base their gun policy on what they see in movies.
troy nehls
There's not 007s running around our country with suppressors shooting people.
jamie kilstein
That sounds like 007 talk to me.
seamus coughlin
But anyway... No, it's actually funny when you put it that way.
It's like, that is not who we're trying to stop right now.
tim pool
I'll keep arguing for repealing the NFA and the Hughes Amendment and restoring all those gun rights, but we'll wrap it up here.
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We are going to have more coming up for you at TimCast.com.
It will go up at about 11 p.m.
It's our members-only show, uncensored, not family-friendly.
We got a lot more to talk about.
And so you can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me at TimCast.
Congressman, would you like to shout anything out?
troy nehls
Yes, if I could.
I've enjoyed this.
This has been great.
Thank you for all the listeners.
And I'd like to plug my book, NELS, N-E-H-L-S with an S. NELSforCongress.com and pressing the preorder.
My book located in the main menu.
It talks about January 6th, my activities there, talks about the summer riots, talks about 2020 election and everything else.
And I think you would really, really enjoy it.
It's an easy read with pictures.
tim pool
Right on.
seamus coughlin
I need those because I'm a cartoonist.
And speaking of which, I make cartoons at a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We just released one today.
I think you guys will really like it.
It's about the woke Christian Inquisition.
We also just launched a website to help us get independent from platforms like Patreon and other big tech platforms.
So freedomtunes.com.
Become a member.
Five bucks a month.
Get an extra cartoon every week and help support us get independent from big tech.
Thank you very much.
jamie kilstein
Uh, you guys can follow me on Twitter at jamiekilstein on Instagram at thejamiekilstein.
Legitimately, the conversations I've been having with all of you have been the most fun I've had in a very long time being in the public space, so I appreciate it whether you agree or disagree with me.
You can check out the podcast at jamiekilsteinpodcast.com.
It's called A F-Up's Guide to the Universe, where we talk about mental health a lot, tribalism, just being a good person and also admitting to your flaws, giving advice, all that kind of stuff.
And then this Saturday at the Beacon Theater, you can see me and Tim, Tulsi Gabbard, Ian, Zuby, James O'Keefe, all sorts of people from the left and the right debate, do stand-up comedy.
It's a really important event.
And if we can pack this out, We can have more events, and I don't work for that company, for Minds, but they can have more events that promote free speech, that promote uncensored comedy.
Ryan Long's also doing stand-up, who's hysterical.
So that's Saturday at the Beacon Theatre.
You can get tickets or apply for free tickets at festival.minds.com.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
There's also going to be Tyler Fisher and Chrissy Maher doing comedy between the panels, I believe.
It's going to be so awesome.
I'm really looking forward to it.
I've never been to New York City.
I'm about to change that.
Whoa, it's your first time?
Yeah.
jamie kilstein
That's amazing.
lydia smith
I know, I'm really excited.
It's going to be a really fun time.
I'm hoping it lives up to my expectations.
I'm sure it won't in this economy.
Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patchlets as well as SourPatchlets.me.
tim pool
There's also gonna be a VIP meet and greet.
So I guess if you go to the festival.minds.com, that's the URL, right?
jamie kilstein
Festival.minds.com, yeah.
tim pool
They mentioned, I think, there's a meet and greet happening for VIP tickets, so if you wanna get those.
But for people who can't afford it, there's an option to get free tickets.
Actually, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
just mentioned in the Super Chat saying it worked.
The free tickets actually worked.
unidentified
Oh, awesome.
Let's go.
tim pool
So the idea is, it's very expensive to put on an event at the Beacon Theater.
You got to understand that.
jamie kilstein
One of the most historical theaters of all time.
tim pool
Yeah, it's massive.
It's like 3,000 seats.
And so that's why the tickets cost what they do.
But because of COVID, you know, we're really trying to get as many people to come out as possible.
lydia smith
So one of the reasons that it is so expensive is because they have great security.
So I'm really not concerned.
So whatever happens on Friday happens on Friday, and then I'm sure we'll be fine at the event.
So come on down.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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