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Timcast IRL - Liberal Arrested For ASSASSINATION Attempt On SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh w/Tommy Altman
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in what what should be the lead story across the board on all of the major
news networks on every major newspaper and is not is that a man was arrested
near Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's home not just with a weapon
a variety of weapons burglars tools and other items that implied he not only
wanted to kill assassinate the justice he wanted to kidnap him and and do who
knows what This man apparently was going to the home of Kavanaugh in the wee hours of the morning, saw a couple marshals and panicked, and then turned himself in.
This is insane.
And this was a 26-year-old man who was motivated by liberal politics.
He said that he was concerned about what might happen with Roe v. Wade because of the leaked draft.
He was concerned about these mass shootings.
And he said he wasn't thinking straight.
You know, it was not that long ago we talked about a survey that came from the Southern Poverty Law Center that showed of all the demographics between Republicans and Democrats, young and old, it was young Democrat men.
44% favored the idea of assassinating politicians they thought were causing harm to democracy or the country.
And then it's not even a week later, we have this story.
And you know what the craziest thing is?
The group that doxxed the homes of the justices.
Ruth sent us, announced they will be returning to his home in violation of the law, and Merrick Garland has done nothing.
So, do you blame me when I'm like, yeah, I think there's gonna be a civil war if there's not one already started?
Because you have people breaking the law with no consequence, and this is exactly what I warned about.
If you don't set the boundary, you protest at Justice's house, we arrest you, you get a slap on the wrist, you go on your way.
If you don't draw the line there, they escalate it, and this is exactly what just happened.
And once again, Merrick Garland will not be enforcing the law against these people who are in clear violation of it.
So, I can only make assumptions as to what happened, so... We'll talk about that.
We got a bunch of other stories.
We got this, uh... Chesa Boudin, or however he got his name.
Soros-backed DA in San Francisco has been recalled.
He's gone.
People, uh, they actually like it when their laws are enforced.
San Francisco's become a mess.
There's poop everywhere.
There's shoplifting.
There's mass raids on stores.
And then the House just passed what many people are calling a symbolic gun control bill that is just absurdly unconstitutional, raising the gun age, or the age to buy a rifle, from 18 to 21, which just, on its face, is a violation of the Second Amendment.
This probably won't go anywhere.
I think even Mitch McConnell said it's not gonna happen.
We'll talk about that.
We're going to talk about these books in schools because our guest is actually taking action on this.
Joining us today is Tommy Altman.
tommy altman
Hey, thanks for having me, man.
I really appreciate it.
tim pool
Do you want to introduce yourself?
tommy altman
Sure.
Yeah, my name is Tommy Altman.
I'm running for Congress in the 2nd District of Virginia, which is my hometown.
So, you know, my wife and I were born and raised there in the district.
We grew up in Chesapeake.
And honestly, man, it's an honor to run and work to earn the votes of people that we grew up with.
And honestly, it's just been a lot of fun.
It really has been.
So yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy.
We're in a crazy time of the world right now.
And, you know, I just tell people, hey, man, go out, go check out our websites, tommyaltman.com.
If you want more information, I'm a special operator serving on the ground, Afghanistan, Iraq.
tim pool
And so and now you got you, I think you won what a couple lawsuits against these these lewd books.
tommy altman
Yeah, so it's interesting.
We've come to our attention to some of these books that are so sexually explicit in our school libraries.
And of course, you go to those school boards and people are trying to get them taken off the library books, the bookshelves.
And there's people getting thrown out of the school boards and telling them, you know, hey, you can't even read the books in here and everything else.
I'm like, so finally, I was like, well, I started looking at the, what's the other side that I'll do?
They've always been taking us to court for the longest time, and that's how they win.
So I said, man, let's take some action.
There's got to be legal action.
If we can't go through our elected officials, we have to be able to go through the judicial process.
And so, yeah, we sued regarding two books.
One is Genderqueer.
It's the most controversial book in all the United States.
And then the other one is the Court of Mist and Fury.
And so one is, uh, one's heterosexual, one's homosexual in nature.
And so this is simply all we're asking for.
We're not asking to ban the books.
We're simply asking for parental rights to be restored.
So for parental consent to be given for minors to view sexually explicit material.
tim pool
Well, we'll get into all that, too.
That's really, really interesting.
So cool.
Thanks for joining us.
We also have Luke Rickowski.
luke rudkowski
Hey, guys.
I came here with one very simple message, and that is that inflation is theft.
And if you agree with that message, you could also get this shirt in many different ways on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
There's also a big discount for members on lukeuncensor.com.
Thanks for having me.
It should be a very good conversation.
I'm excited to get into all the craziness that's only going to be amplifying and getting a lot more crazy from here.
tim pool
You need to sneak on that shirt, end the Fed somewhere.
luke rudkowski
I know.
I have my slogan hidden somewhere, but end the Fed, definitely.
Maybe sleeves.
ian crossland
Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.
luke rudkowski
There you go.
ian crossland
That's one step.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Last night was kind of a rough psychological night after the show.
I was really kind of thinking, for the first time, the inflation thing was kind of coming home.
It does feel like 1928, kind of like from a broad scale.
And like, we got to make sure we do everything in our power not to become like the Nazi party, because that didn't happen immediately.
It was like a 10 year process of like going after the other, blaming other people, political prisoners, taking the guns.
tim pool
It's just... You're talking about Democrats.
ian crossland
Talking about the left.
Like we should not come down on the left because that is what the Nazis did.
They came down on the other.
We got to be careful that we do not start othering people.
tim pool
I think you have it back It's I just whatever direction it's headed. The Democrats
are trying to seize the guns. It's the Democrats who are voting in lockstep
ian crossland
I know it's not it. It's that it's not an exact replica.
The past is only a blueprint We just tell them to stop being not course, of course, and
we need to live with the example so that they follow our example
What's up, everybody?
tim pool
I don't know if there's a path out of that, to be completely honest.
ian crossland
Man, it is terrifying.
tim pool
Two sides clashing at unstoppable force.
tommy altman
I sure hope so.
Honestly, I mean, that's why I'm running.
I sure hope there is.
Otherwise, the only alternative is violence on the streets.
And so, I mean, having... Which has already been happening for years.
Well, yeah, but I mean, it's the side that actually does not advocate for violence, doesn't like guns and everything else.
What I'm really worried about are the people that are comfortable with violence.
I think a better way to put it is, I think Antifa loves violence.
tim pool
I think these far-left extremists love engaging in it, but they're not good at it.
tommy altman
No, I'm saying they're not good at it though.
tim pool
The issue is when the warriors actually decide to come out and that's when things get crazy.
But we'll talk about that in this first segment.
We also have Lydia.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm gonna try to keep us from getting super black-pilled tonight.
Hopefully it'll be a great night.
Excited to hear what Tommy's been up to.
It sounds like a really positive change.
I'm looking forward to it.
tim pool
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Let's get into the first big story, breaking news.
Breaking news from earlier today.
Armed man who wanted to kill Brett Kavanaugh arrested near Justice's home.
California man was in possession of a gun and burglary tools.
The man, 26-year-old Nicholas John Rosk of Simi Valley, California, was carrying a firearm, according to Fox News.
He also had burglary tools.
The federal affidavit filed against the would-be assailant states Rosk was in possession of pepper spray, zip ties, a hammer, a crowbar, duct tape, and a tactical knife, in addition to a Glock 17 pistol with two magazines and ammunition.
Sources for the Post claimed the man was angered over a leaked draft of a February Supreme Court opinion that could possibly signal the overturning of Roe v. Wade.
They indicated he was also upset about the recent spate of mass shootings.
This is clearly modern Democrat liberal politics motivating this guy to try and kill a Supreme Court justice.
Now I want to show you this.
This is the Southern Poverty Law Center's poll that came out one week ago.
Section four, partisanship and violence.
Total approval for, quote, assassinating a politician who is harming the country or our democracy.
Shockingly, younger Republican men, one third of them, agree with that.
Younger Democratic men, 44%, the largest group, support political assassinations.
Now, I know it's bad because we have this young Democrat-minded individual who is apparently, he's charged with attempted murder.
That's it, charged with attempted murder.
Young Republican women were at 40% in support of assassinations, and young Republican men at 34%.
That's what I'm talking about earlier.
tommy altman
That's the other side of the aisle.
That's the concern, honestly.
You talk about violence in the streets.
tim pool
It's dangerous.
It's probably why.
The reason I would say young Republican men are probably Of the younger demographic, the least likely to support... Well, they're not.
Young Democrat women were the least likely.
But I would say one of the reasons younger Republican men are lower in support of this is because many of them may have actually seen violence.
Many of them are veterans.
tommy altman
Absolutely.
But that's the thing.
It's the younger group of people.
You know, it's not the older group.
So it's the next generation coming up that they're so frustrated with our political system right now that this is what they believe the alternative is.
And it is.
If people aren't being heard, that is the alternative.
For sure.
It doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on.
That's what you see all the time.
Those are where revolutions come from.
luke rudkowski
Another aspect to understand here is that the younger generation is more emotionally unstable, is more likely to be in poverty, has less ability for upward economic mobility.
SSRIs.
And is being dumped with big pharma medicines on top of having not harmonious relationships with partners.
So when you add all of that up, you have the perfect recipe for radicalization.
Because if you look at what's been happening in the Middle East, you see a lot of guys who are not intelligent.
IQ is also going down here in the United States.
That's also a correlation with violence.
So is poverty.
So is relationship status.
You see all of those factors going down.
So politically, we are Prepping the next generation of the youth to be violent people especially what you look at the mind control that's happening on Big Tech social media that is pushing them to these radical ideas by censoring free speech by censoring debate and only allowing echo chambers to be heard radicalizing individuals towards their political opinions even further which is extremely dangerous and to me this is all being done deliberately a part of a divide-and-conquer agenda so people fight each other rather than look at the true culprits of the problems that are being created for them.
tommy altman
Yep, I would agree with that.
I talk about it a lot, actually.
One of my favorite days in my lifetime is actually September 12th, 2001.
The day after 9-11, when we're still reeling in pain, everybody's in shock because of what happened.
But in that time, the images that were coming out, people were covered in ashes from the towers and everything else.
It didn't matter what color you were.
It didn't matter who you voted for in the last election cycle.
It didn't matter what your gender was or what religion.
You were an American, and we had your back.
And that's what we have to get back to.
If we don't get back to that— Then what are we going to do as a nation?
luke rudkowski
I was there in New York City, the dust went into my neighborhood, and I also, you know, I think we should be careful.
After that we also went into, you know, Iraq, we went to Afghanistan, we got ourselves into a mess.
There was a lot of cohesion, there was a lot of patriotism, but the political parties inside of the United States used it for their own personal advantage, helping the military-industrial complex, leading us astray with our foreign policy, creating a lot of devastating situations that I think You know, looking back on, were absolute mistakes that we relied into.
ian crossland
I was there too, actually.
I lived there and I remember hanging out with everybody on the 12th and sitting out at lunch just talking and feeling it, like making eye contact with people walking down the street.
I want that without the tragedy, without the devastation.
We don't need to scare people into that.
luke rudkowski
But there was a cohesion.
There was an energy.
We're in this together.
You know, you know, my friends, my family were a part of this.
And you looked at your neighbor, you saw someone that was, you know, a part of your country because, you know, the whole idea was we were attacked.
We need to come together.
So there was a lot of strength.
In that moment, and there was a lot of, you know, amazing things that could have happened, but I just, I just think, you know, we always got to be also careful in those moments as well.
ian crossland
The Federal Reserve System, it's a form of attack.
Inflation is a kind of theft, like you said earlier, Luke, and it's not a joke.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, it's the largest tax.
ian crossland
If people felt that attack, like September 11th, I think there would be a lot more unity around it as a form of national defense.
tim pool
People can only, people can only understand, for the most, the average person only understands single-layer issues.
So they say, why don't I make enough money at my job?
Or they say, more importantly, why can't I afford to buy gas?
And what do you get from the average, you know, millennial or particularly millennial females who vote Democrat?
It's because I'm not being paid enough by my boss.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's not the case.
That's not the case.
And so they say, we need to raise the minimum wage.
And you say, OK, that's layer one.
What's layer two to that proposal?
Increasing the minimum wage results in just generic inflation across the board, and it creates only a temporary relief that doesn't actually solve the problem.
tommy altman
Yeah, you get about six months.
tim pool
If that!
tommy altman
If that.
tim pool
And so, you know, you try to explain basic economics to people.
The minimum wage is completely meaningless.
Completely.
What matters is how much can you buy for the equivalent of one hour of labor?
So they say, well then we should pay more, but that number doesn't mean anything because when you just make everybody have to be paid a base rate, then the base cost of good has to go up.
They like to point out like Denmark, and they're like, well in Denmark they pay 20 bucks an hour and a burger is only 2 bucks.
Totally different economy, value systems, and a different valuing of labor per hour than we have.
You can't solve cultural problems with policy.
tommy altman
No, I absolutely agree with you.
And that's one of the things that, you know, being a small business owner, one of the things I talked to with all my, you know, staff about, I was talking to one of my buddies, and when the minimum wage went up, he thought it was a great idea.
I'm like, well, sure, it's a great idea, except for now you're just simply reducing your purchasing power.
It's going to happen in time.
You're going to have a cycle.
It's going to come back around.
And then very, very soon he was like, wait a minute, all of our supplies are way more expensive now.
And it took about six months.
I said yep and it's going to take you about three or four years for us to catch up to be charging again what we had again two years ago.
luke rudkowski
It's also just one thing really quickly the financial components are important here but just back to this Kavanaugh story because this is this is a big story this is something major that has been building up incrementally to the point where even the Department of Homeland Security just issued a new memo saying that there's most likely a very big chance for more violence this summer politically because of the midterms because of the border crisis because of the Supreme Court decisions So even Homeland Security is warning, saying there's going to be some internal violence and turmoil happening here in the United States.
How do we de-escalate it when almost every single factor, big tech social media, the corporate mainstream media, every politician is adding fuel to the fire?
How do we stop it?
tim pool
You can't!
I don't think it's possible.
Maybe it was possible six years ago.
Maybe it wasn't.
Maybe with Donald Trump, he really broke these people.
I was covering conflict and crisis at Occupy Wall Street.
I started covering it for Vice.
I covered a little bit when I was working for Fusion, the ABC News company.
And I don't see a path towards bringing this country together.
What I see is you have... I like to reference Stephen Marsh.
He wrote the book, The Next Civil War, when he said to us that you have a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic in the same country trying to fight for control, and you can't have both.
And he's completely right.
I believe in a constitutional republic.
You know, I grew up traditionally Democrat, but the reason why today people who used to be on the left, like Elon Musk or Joe Rogan are called right wing, is because they still believe in those values of a constitutional republic.
The left Absolute chaos.
Right now, you have Occupy Wall Street activists that I know tweeting in defense of telling children it's not going to lick itself.
They have no principles.
They have no moral standard other than, I want power, F you.
One side has no principles, one side has standardized principles, and various disagreements.
You've got post-liberals, libertarians, moderates, centrists, and conservatives in one side, and then you have the psychotic death cult on the other side.
unidentified
Right.
luke rudkowski
There was confrontations.
There was fighting outside of that Dallas venue where they were doing those sick things with children.
There was activists coming there saying, no, we're going to fight anyone who's protesting this.
This is the insane level that we reach that we need to understand.
tim pool
I want to explain.
What I just said, psychotic death cult.
Because I hear it all the time from the left and MSNBC.
They're like the Trump supporters in a cult.
Let me explain.
The QAnon people, I think they're nuts.
I completely disagree with conservative Christians on a lot of moral issues.
But we can sit down and talk about the Constitution, the founding documents, the rules by which we seek to compromise and self-govern.
I can sit here and say, I disagree with you conservative on tax policy.
And then we all laugh, get along, and tell each other jokes.
The other side puts a big neon sign up saying it's not going to lick itself.
They fire bomb buildings, we had the worst riots we've ever seen, and it's all lies.
And I'm not just talking about leftists, I'm talking about the mainstream press, the corporate press.
MSNBC had the nerve to come out and be like, what a shocking story, this man had weapons and he was at Kavanaugh's home.
MSNBC, they advocated for it.
MSNBC ran a story saying it was good that they were going to his house.
These people are absolutely deranged.
Look, when Trump comes out and says something, I outright say, I think he's wrong.
He talks about fraud all the time.
I'm like, nah, that guy's wrong.
And they call us a cult.
No, I'm telling you that guy's wrong.
But they come out on their own platform and say, it's good we're going to his house.
Then it happens, they go, oh, heaven's me.
They're in a cult.
They just they prop up whatever is not the right or whatever is not America.
And that extends to the point where they've lost their minds.
And you have adult men taking dollar bills from children into bikinis and thongs.
You have this thing in Dallas where it says it's not going to lick itself.
And they're like, this is a good and normal thing, and it's family-friendly, and I'm like, no, you just have no principles, no standards, no morals, and all you do is fight for power for whatever your side is, and your side is basically whatever the other is not.
tommy altman
No, you're absolutely right.
They actually treat it like a faith system.
That's what's interesting to me.
I mean, so, amidst everything else, I'm also an ordained minister, so they treat it very much like a faith system.
They promote it like one, defend it like one, and The interesting thing is that even saying liberals anymore, I don't think it's accurate.
tim pool
Right.
tommy altman
I really don't.
I mean, I have friends that were liberals five years ago, but I wouldn't call them a liberal now.
The liberal is gone.
They've really been taken over by radicals.
This is radical liberalism.
tim pool
The interesting thing that happened is that the principled liberals have become what's called disaffected or post-liberal.
tommy altman
Yep.
tim pool
And the people who are just tribalists have become establishment or leftist.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But it's funny because you look at a lot of these younger leftists, they're pro-guns.
But they keep defending the establishment and the psychopathy of this cult.
tommy altman
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
That's why, I'm sorry, look.
When, I just gotta put it this way.
When they come out, And they have children on stage at 21 and up gay bars.
Desmond is amazing.
Ripping off his clothing and being handed money to do so.
That's called stripping.
And I'm not exaggerating.
Anybody who knows anything about what stripping is knows that bikini bars are fully clothed.
Women dancing on poles and shaking it for men for cash, but they're wearing clothes.
When you have a little boy on stage and he rips his clothes off for adult gay men who give him money?
tommy altman
It's pedophilia.
tim pool
These are pedophiles?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the left overtly defends it.
And what do you get?
In Florida, when a reasonable proposal is made, maybe parents should know about this.
They say, you're trying to ban gay people.
It's like, dude, if you want to defend pedophiles, that's on you.
But this is why I don't think there's reconciliation.
tommy altman
Yeah, and maybe not, especially for some of these issues.
And I talk a lot about, especially with the campaign, how you think about things on a different level.
Honestly, quite honestly, I think everybody should run for office because it makes you think about things in a different level than you ever would have before.
It's really interesting.
But I talk a lot about just getting back to our founding principles of faith, family, and freedom, like these very basic things that, you know, some people call them trite.
I think if we don't get back to the things that made us great to start with, I think we're doomed as a nation.
And so some of that I think is absolutely right.
I think it ties into what you're talking about right now.
tim pool
Well, the crazy thing to me is, like, you know, policy-wise, I've always been rather liberal.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
But this day and age... Not anymore.
Well, it's... I'm sorry, like, we had a guy on the show, it was progressive, who said... I asked him, do you think women should be able to get an abortion at nine months?
And he said, it's the woman's choice.
And I'm like, why kill the baby?
You could end the pregnancy by delivering the baby and let the baby live and just drop it at a fire department.
He's like, nah, woman's choice.
I'm like, okay, there's nothing there.
tommy altman
But then you have California that now are trying to advocate post-term abortion.
And you've heard it.
On the street, I've heard people say in interviews, they said, well, seven days after birth, you know, if a woman decides to give up on the life of her child, should she be charged?
Like, you mean murder a child?
tim pool
In Virginia.
So do you remember this in Virginia?
I think it was Cathy Tran was her name.
She proposed a bill, a no-restriction abortion.
And she was asked, I think it was by a judge, he said, if a woman is dilating at the point of birth, could you abort the baby?
And she said, there would be no restrictions.
tommy altman
It's disgusting.
tim pool
That's in Virginia.
tommy altman
It's evil.
I mean, it really is evil.
I mean, every society throughout human history has known that you have to protect the innocence of children.
Every society.
And now we are all of a sudden, very quickly in our society, okay with removing the innocence of children.
I mean, that goes back to the books.
You know, for me, it goes back to what you're seeing at the strip clubs, you know, with all these, with, I mean, it's, you're normalizing pedophilia.
tim pool
Let's talk about the book thing.
So, you know, we've seen all this stuff.
We have a story here from Fox News.
Texas lawmaker planning bill to ban children from drag shows.
Not appropriate at all.
A lot of this is in a similar vein, where for some reason there's a big push from the left to expose children to overtly sexualized activities or overtly sexual activity.
You had a lawsuit.
Was it just one or were there two?
tommy altman
So it's combined into two.
There's two different books that are in this lawsuit.
tim pool
But you basically, you didn't get them banned.
tommy altman
No.
tim pool
Parental consent is now required to display sexual contact with children.
tommy altman
That's what we're seeking, yes.
So in Virginia, you're able to take a book before a judge.
It's a law.
You're able to take a book before a judge and see if it's obscene.
So you get a ruling on it.
The judge agreed with us.
My attorney delegate, Tim Anderson, and I decided to take these books.
There's two of them.
It's the genderqueer.
unidentified
Wow.
tommy altman
I'm sorry, guys.
You know, I talk about Civil War conflict.
and then the court of mist and fury and we took him before a judge and she ruled. The interesting
thing is every single judge in Virginia Beach recused themselves. Wow. Said it's a political
tim pool
night. They don't do it. I'm sorry guys. You know I talk about civil war conflict. We have a guy who
just got arrested for attempted murder of a justice and I and I say I don't think there's a way out of
When the judges are like, I'm scared and too cowardly to stand up for values, then the only thing I can see is weak men will lead to hard times.
tommy altman
Oh, absolutely.
Always.
I mean, that's what we're seeing right now, quite honestly.
I mean, it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, you've had some weak politicians for a long time.
tim pool
This book, Genderqueer, has writing, some of the writing in it is overtly sexualized, saying, I want your in my, and then you have a photograph of two people performing acts on each other.
There's actually two different images of activities being performed on each other, adult activities.
This other book, what was it called?
tommy altman
Court of Mist and Fury.
tim pool
So what, I've not heard this one though, so what's this one?
tommy altman
So it's actually, it's one of a series, it's a three-part series, and it's actually heterosexual in nature, but the descriptions of the act of sex is so descript, I mean they can't read, so the local news channel there, FM99, wasn't even allowed to read it on the air.
tim pool
Was it an FCC violation?
tommy altman
Yep, absolutely.
You know, the lady that was presenting it, she's great.
She was like, why can't I read this?
And so the other DJ was like, well, let me, I'll read it.
And he looked at it and he goes, I can't read this one here.
But it's okay for sixth graders to have it.
10 to 12 years old.
It's okay to give it to our children.
tim pool
And what are they writing?
These establishment leftists and liberals are writing, Republicans are banning books.
tommy altman
I'm a Nazi now.
I'm a book banner.
tim pool
If you believe that, you're in a cult.
I'm sorry, like, we don't allow Playboy in schools.
And Playboy isn't, like, hardcore stuff.
It's, you know, pin-up models, nude women.
But that's not allowed.
tommy altman
Well, there's gotta be a line.
That's my point.
There has to be a line.
You clearly, for Virginia Beach anyway, That school district obviously doesn't have a clear enough line, and I don't know who it is, who the failure is, where the breakdown is in the administrative level, but whoever it is doesn't have a clear line, so I'm simply asking for parental rights to be restored.
So parental consent for minors to view sexually explicit material, just like when you go to a movie theater.
tim pool
I think one of the issues is that the whole identity of Democrats is, we hate Republicans.
It started partly with Trump.
I think it existed a little bit before.
But they said, Republicans are all bad.
Trump wins.
Trump is a Nazi.
And now they have no choice but to stake their identity on opposing whatever it is that's right wing.
tommy altman
Especially if you call yourself a conservative Republican.
tim pool
Oh, I mean, you guys are conservative Republicans are just off the cliff so far, right?
But Joe Rogan, he's a borderline socialist and they call him right-wing because every part of their identity must be in opposition to whatever it is.
Maybe the good news is there won't be a major conflict between factions because they will ostracize themselves to the point where there's 10 people who hold their views.
tommy altman
One can only hope, right?
But honestly, so I actually believe, thank you so much for doing what you're doing.
Honestly, I think this is a step in the right direction.
tim pool
Just complaining on the internet.
tommy altman
No, it's good.
But this is where news is now.
News is no longer, you know, Fox News or CNN or MSNBC.
Everybody looks at that and realizes it's propaganda.
You had a Chinese friend who told me, he said, we don't watch the news in China because we know it's propaganda.
For some reason, you Americans haven't figured it out yet.
tim pool
Well, I heard that even Fox News was pro-gun control.
tommy altman
They're all pro gun control.
tim pool
Yeah, I think someone mentioned in the Super Chits that on the five, they were in favor of red flag laws.
tommy altman
Nope, not me.
tim pool
Right, anybody who pays attention knows red flag laws just mean a violation of your Fourth Amendment rights.
tommy altman
Right.
tim pool
That's it.
tommy altman
Well, one time in the VA, they wanted to be able to strip you of your gun rights if they thought you had PTSD, right?
So I don't trust anybody to be able to tell somebody else what their mental capacity is.
I mean, we do that before a judge, but not some doctor.
We have no idea what these doctors are doing.
I think it's a very dangerous road to go down.
For me, listen, when I say that, I certainly run for office.
People automatically want to go, oh, well, what about the kids and everything else that's decided?
It's a tragedy.
These tragedies are horrible.
And I think all Americans are heartbreaks when we see this loss of innocent life, especially so young.
tim pool
They don't care about kids.
tommy altman
They don't care.
No, they don't care at all.
tim pool
There's a great meme.
I love it.
It said, it was the Drake meme.
You know, the one where he's putting the hand up and he's like, no.
And the one where he's like, yes.
And it says school shootings.
unidentified
And he's like, ooh.
tim pool
And then it says school bombings.
And he's like, oh.
tommy altman
Right.
tim pool
Under Obama and Vice President Biden, we had kids being blown out.
They don't care.
tommy altman
Right.
tim pool
What they care about is they've got a wedge issue because these things like this happen all the time.
Now they're like, look at the mass shootings in Chicago and Minnesota.
You never care about this stuff.
They need a wedge issue for the midterms, and so they're acting like they care about kids.
But I'll throw it back to what's going on with these kids in Texas.
You got a rep in Texas and a rep in Florida who want to make drag shows illegal with minors present.
The funny thing is, it already is.
I don't understand how, but the cops won't do anything.
These are adult men in sexualized outfits, doing sexualized dances, with a big neon sign reading, it's not gonna lick itself, and the kids are handing them money for them to dance.
Right there I'm like, okay, that's clearly over the line.
Then you had Desmond is Amazing, little boy dancing on stage, stripping his clothes off as adult gay men are handing him money.
And then you have another kid who's called Queen Lactatia, who was posing with a 99% nude man.
It's a man who's basically nude, but a tiny little fabric on his junk.
And the little boy's touching, like touching his arm and smiling for the camera.
They're outright targeting and abusing kids.
And then they're acting like they care about him and no one else does.
tommy altman
You know, it's funny, because when I talk to people now, they tell me, we hear the word conservative a lot, but nobody defines why.
Why am I conservative?
And I tell people all the time, look, I'm a conservative because I believe there is a transcendent moral code.
There's a right and a wrong, and there's a good and evil.
And I just have seen evil sweep across this nation for far too long unchecked.
And this is what we're seeing.
This is the culmination of it.
That's truly evil, what you're seeing with these kids.
And anybody who thinks otherwise, I think you're just sick, honestly.
tim pool
Have you seen the documentary, What is a Woman?
The Daily Wire one?
tommy altman
I have not seen it.
I've seen parts of it and seen the whole thing in entirety.
tim pool
It is really good.
It's great.
The Daily Wire just put out some clips of, they did an audience screening.
What do they call it?
What do they call it?
Man, I can't think of the phrase.
ian crossland
Focus group?
tim pool
Focus group.
There you go.
Thank you.
And it was fascinating to see the shock in regular people's faces when they were watching this stuff.
But there was like one woman, she was like, there's more than two genders.
And the entire room goes, what?
Like, what are you talking about?
I think what's happening is you've got a lot of people who have their whole identity is based on opposing whatever the right is.
And they live in a media bubble.
Like you mentioned MSNBC, CNN, Fox News.
So they hear these things and they just say, okay.
They think they're the norm.
They think they're normal, but they're weird outliers that represent like 8% of the population.
luke rudkowski
And it's not just a media bubble, it's a social media bubble with algorithms regurgitating political views, amplifying them where people only hear each other.
And then the main kind of disagreement that they may have online is that someone isn't fighting the other side too hard or is too sympathetic to the other side.
And when you have that kind of environment, you're going to, of course, reap a lot of social chaos.
And I think a lot of this is being done deliberately because just even a few years ago, I remember doing independent media almost 15 years ago, and it wasn't like this.
This political divide wasn't like this.
There was a lot more people in the middle.
There was a lot more moderates.
There was a lot more people that were able to see common ground between the left and the right.
It wasn't as hyperbolic, as insane, as crazy as it is now, where you literally have people Arguing for the abuse of children.
I mean, it's just so mind-boggling to see.
tommy altman
And it was not that long ago.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, it was not that long ago.
I remember it.
I remember even two and a half years ago, the first time I came on this show, the first thing I said, we need a peaceful divorce.
And the conversation, when I brought it up, wasn't even taken seriously.
It was like, yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever.
But I was like, no, seriously, we need a peaceful divorce because there is no other way to avoid this larger clash that the ruling elites are kind of building up so we fight each other.
We need to stop this immediately.
We're going into very dangerous territory and all the ingredients, all the fuel is being added to this fire and it's getting out of control.
tommy altman
But that is just geographic polarization.
tim pool
Sure.
tommy altman
Roe v. Wade is a perfect example.
You start decentralizing the federal government, reducing federal government, pushing that
power back down to the states, people get 50 options, they're going to start migrating
to whatever area they actually identify with.
tim pool
Yes, but that is just geographic polarization.
What happens if Roe and Casey are overturned, Republicans win a majority, they win the White
House, and then do a federal ban on abortion?
luke rudkowski
I think it's going to be a problem.
tim pool
So here's what I'll say to both you guys.
Reading the history of the Civil War, what did we see?
The first thing that happened was a peaceful divorce.
tommy altman
Sure.
tim pool
Before Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated, seven states said, we hereby secede.
And that was it.
Months went by with nothing.
They were like, that's it, we're done.
And then Abraham Lincoln gets in and he goes, I don't recognize that as being legitimate.
Fort Sumter in South Carolina, he's got occupying forces and the states are, all of them are basically like, dude, you can't be here.
tommy altman
Right.
tim pool
The fight breaks out and even after the Battle of Fort Sumter, I think it was, I think it was Lee, I'm not sure.
They didn't know if it was actually the start of a civil war or just some small skirmish and that would be the end of it.
tommy altman
Sure.
tim pool
But because of the actions by the federal government, Yep.
Yep, several other states were like, yo, this is crazy.
What are you doing? And they and they backed out ended up joining the confederacy
West virginia, uh, virginia splits into two different states
So the other issue is when it comes to the geographic hyperpolarization as you described it tommy
The south was angry because laws were passed the fugitive slave act
Right that if slaves escaped to the north the north had to return them
That was federal law.
But the North said no.
Now here's the issue.
I think the North was right not to do it.
I think slavery was completely wrong and amoral and needed to be ended.
Many in the North were willing to fight that fight.
But because of this, Southern states said, if the law will not be respected, there is no agreement between us and you, we leave.
And that's what precipitated the secession.
tommy altman
Sure.
tim pool
Which ultimately leads to a fight over weapons, which leads to a fight.
So I fear, I said this last year, if Roe v. Wade and Roe and Casey are overturned, the Republicans then campaign on banning abortion federally.
Many think they won't because Republicans are more states' rights, but let's say they do.
They win in November, we're five months out, but they can't get past a filibuster and they won't be able to get past a veto.
tommy altman
Sure.
tim pool
Then Donald Trump campaigns and says, the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to sign the bill.
It's the Save the Children Act.
And then he does.
Right.
Then you get a Supreme Court that is conservative.
You get Congress and the Senate and the executive branch.
The bill hits Trump's desks.
Day one, he signs it.
Then you get blue states, California, Illinois, New York, who refuse to shut down abortion
unidentified
Oh, sure.
tim pool
clinics.
What happens then?
Will Trump send in federal authorities to do it?
Will you then get states saying we will not recognize federal law enforcement?
Will it result in conflict over these clinics?
I'd be willing to bet Antifa and other left wing groups would show up and fight with federal
authorities at abortion clinics.
I'm not saying it will happen.
tommy altman
I'm not saying it's likely to happen.
Yeah, I think that's the most extreme case, obviously, but if you took that power and you push it back down to the states, where I think it belongs, I think our forefathers would say that kind of power belongs to the state, not the federal level.
The federal government has just become this all-consuming beast that thinks that, and people, the vast majority of Americans go, well, let's just let the government legislate.
tim pool
Why?
tommy altman
They've done a poor, a very poor job of it.
Why are we gonna trust that?
We push that power back down as low as possible to the states or local localities, and that's where we had the most say.
That's always what I'm an advocate for.
tim pool
I do agree.
I think it may be the only option we have.
So I was asked by this progressive what I thought about Roe v. Wade, and I'm like, I'm pro-choice.
But I think at this point the best thing we can do is let states be states.
tommy altman
Sure.
tim pool
Conservatives can go to red states and then blue states can go to blue states.
You know, blue people can go to blue states or whatever.
tommy altman
My answer's the same, except I'm pro-life, and I think it should be down to the states.
You know, I'd still be able—look, I believe that life begins at conception, so I would always, you know, seek to push the needle in that direction.
However, I think it's a state rights issue.
I don't think it's a federal issue.
I really don't.
And if that's—people go, oh, you're just—you're pushing—you're passing the buck.
I'm like, I'm not passing the buck.
I'm giving you 50 options.
I think it's the safest—it's the nicest thing to do, most compassionate thing that we do to people.
We give them 50 options.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I think what we're talking about is just decentralization.
tommy altman
Yeah, absolutely.
luke rudkowski
And I think the more we allow individuals to make the right decisions for themselves, the more we win.
Whenever we have a big bureaucratic government, we have a government that, of course, rules for the many and makes many mistakes.
unidentified
Right.
luke rudkowski
And I think that's exactly what we have right now.
We have way too much money invested in it.
We have way too much policies.
We have way too many decisions being made by this bureaucratic Becky force that doesn't give a damn about the average person and is serving the needs of the special ruling class and helping them out.
tommy altman
The problem is the ruling class, too.
I mean, let's be honest.
We're supposed to be a constitutional republic.
Instead, we've got this weird oligarchy going on.
luke rudkowski
Technocratic corporocracy run by bankers and shadowy elites.
tommy altman
A lot of Cs, but yes.
tim pool
You know what it feels like?
It feels like wealth only lasts a few generations, they say.
And it feels like the ruling elites, the politicians, the wealthy kids, they're not good at running these institutions and organizations.
So you look at everything and you're like, why does it feel like these things are falling apart?
It's like, oh, we used to have oligarchs and ruling elites and barons.
Their great-grandkids have no idea how to run this stuff, and it's all just collapsing around them.
tommy altman
Right.
No, you're absolutely right.
I mean, but it's a problem when you have these congressmen and congresswomen going into Congress, not worth anything, and then four years later worth $10 million.
That's a problem.
Where'd you get that from?
I know what your budget was.
I know what your salary was.
There's no way, even if you didn't spend a single penny.
tim pool
I guess people are saying you gotta invest where Nancy Pelosi invests, because she knows something.
tommy altman
I said, you know how to be the most favorite congressman in all of the nation?
Every single week, just say, hey, these are my investment opportunities.
tim pool
We got a bunch of bills on our desk.
Here's how they're going to vote on them.
Here's what I'm investing in.
tommy altman
You didn't have to say that.
Hey, this is what I'm investing in.
luke rudkowski
There was entire TikTok channels just built on what Nancy Pelosi was trading in the stock market that got censored and deleted and taken down.
tommy altman
Well, listen, I mean, it's criminal.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
Martha Stewart would go to jail for it.
Come on.
I mean, if Martha Stewart can go to jail for it, what are we doing here?
But I think we just have to elect the right people.
I really do.
tim pool
Well, let me pull up this story here.
I think there's some good news, some positive.
I don't want to be all negative.
Check this out.
Democrat turned Trump Republican wins landslide victory.
People don't want Biden's dysfunctional America.
tommy altman
That's the truth.
tim pool
Jeff Van Drew slammed Biden as the worst president in American history.
He's correct.
tommy altman
That's also true.
tim pool
And what did he get?
85% of the vote.
Wow.
You know what this means?
This is a moderate.
He was a Democrat, now he's like, the Democratic Party's nuts, I'm running Republican, and 85% of the vote because people, they don't want political extremes.
The left wants to paint the right as extremist?
No, this proves right here, overwhelmingly, regular people are just saying enough to the crazy.
The good news here is, now this is a primary, this is a guy who ran as a Democrat the first time, You take a look at this story we have from the New York Times.
A Georgia mystery.
How many Democrats voted in the GOP primary?
A lot of people are saying Democrats are voting in Republican primaries to sabotage Trump.
Well, the New York Times says, actually, these people are swing voters.
Swing voters are moving over in large numbers to the Republican Party.
Democrats are quitting and joining Republicans, but you have a large group of swing voters moving over.
I think what's happening is if the Democrats' whole identity is just, we oppose the Republicans, if the best thing they have to offer us is culture war and January 6th, while regular people are spending five bucks a gallon on gas, they're just gonna be like, I'm gonna vote for the guys talking about gas.
That's it.
tommy altman
You're 100% right.
You know, we just had our candidate forum last night, and that's what I talked about over and over again.
So look, all the rest of these things really don't matter.
At the end of the day, the average American is pissed off that we're having to decide whether or not we're putting gas in the car or buying food for our kids.
That's what we're mad about.
tim pool
And you can't get baby formula as it is, so that one's out.
tommy altman
Yeah, we're going to rely on European nations to provide American families with baby formula.
unidentified
Wow.
tommy altman
That's a bit of a problem.
tim pool
Yeah.
So here's what I think.
I think what we're seeing with this trend, the shift from Democrats, not all of them, I think what may end up happening is it Republicans, they're saying, you know, CNN said 80 year high for Republican polling.
tommy altman
Right.
tim pool
If they're up 2.5, they're actually up 10.
tommy altman
Yeah.
tim pool
So I think it's possible.
Come November, we actually see that all of this psychotic behavior from Democrats and failed economic policy exposes the emperor having no clothes.
These these these people on the left who think they're in the majority, who think it's a horrible picture, by the way.
Oh, right.
tommy altman
It's Emperor Biden.
tim pool
Come on.
No, no.
But these people on the left, they think they're the normal.
They think they are mainstream.
They're not.
And Jeff Van Drew proves it.
tommy altman
Yep.
tim pool
So I think they're going to get a rude awakening come November.
A reckoning they should have gotten a long time ago.
tommy altman
Yeah, it's one of the things that actually I'm actually most frustrated with with the Republican Party.
Because I keep telling people, I'm like, man, you know, listen, times of chaos are great opportunities for advancement, and this is the most chaotic time in our nation's history.
But you have to be able to recognize them and be brave enough to step into them.
I think this is an opportunity for the Republican Party not just to get the majority, but to get the super majority.
This is a great opportunity for them, and I believe that we're letting that slip away unknowingly, because we're just focusing on the majority.
Because I do believe, I believe that the— The liberals, you can't even say the Democrats anymore, but you know, these radicals, every time they get into office, they pull the needle as far to the left as they can.
And at this point, they've snapped it off and jumped over a cliff.
They've left most of their base, standing on top of the platform going, what's going on?
But they don't have a home anymore.
luke rudkowski
Well, now a lot of people are asking themselves if the Republicans do win, which it looks like they're going to win.
Are they going to be sitting on their hands like they usually do?
tommy altman
That's it.
luke rudkowski
Or will they be able to choose something and do something?
What do you think is going to happen from your perspective on the ground, being a part of this situation?
Do you think they're going to be the same kind of lame duck Republicans, or do you think they'll be able to achieve something and do something?
tommy altman
It matters what type of Republican you elect.
That's the God's honest truth.
luke rudkowski
How does the picture look for you?
I know there's Ron Paul Republicans, there's Mitt Romney Republicans, there's a big spectrum there.
tommy altman
I'm certainly not Mitt.
That guy's a Democrat.
There's Trump Republicans.
There is.
But honestly, for me, it's about the people.
I am a we the people Republican.
That's who I am.
I want to put the people first.
I believe that the Republican Party is the party of hope and opportunity.
I really do believe that.
But we have to do the hard work, and I really believe it's hard work.
People say it all the time, like, oh, all you talk about is hard work.
I'm like, well, that's the reality.
It is hard work, but it's supposed to be hard work.
That's the thing that I believe that Americans value.
And so I want to represent the people more than anything else, even more than a party, the people of my district, because that's where I'm born and raised.
So I care deeply for the people of our district.
And so I want to make sure that the working class is represented again, because most of us do not feel that we're represented any longer up in Washington, D.C.
And we make up the majority of America.
The working class does.
luke rudkowski
So what do you think is likely to be achieved?
tommy altman
By the Republicans?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tommy altman
Well, honestly, man, we can do the hard work and actually get our economy back on track.
luke rudkowski
If Biden actually wanted to play ball— Do you think there's reversing the Secret Federal Reserve bailouts, the huge debt we're in— That's gonna take decades.
I mean— Yeah, honestly.
tommy altman
I mean, there's no way around that.
luke rudkowski
Not even a decade.
It's impossible to pay off the debt.
I mean, we're talking like trillions of dollars.
tommy altman
No, you can't, but you have to do... So look, as a small business owner, I took a loan out for $35,000 to open up my business.
They give you five years to pay it off.
We paid it off in two because we had a line item in the budget.
So create a budget, put a line item in there, and then you cut the fat everywhere else to be able to pay that off.
That's what you have to do.
There's a lot of money that comes into the federal government.
We can dissolve some departments like the Department of Education, Department of Energy.
These departments don't do anything.
How about we start doing some hard work?
It is hard work to do that.
People aren't gonna like it.
You got to be able to take the hits and the other side be able to tell you that you're a Nazi and you look them in the face and you're like, no, I'm not.
I'm doing the hard work to put the people first again.
ian crossland
The problem with Federal Reserve debt is when we borrow a million from the Federal Reserve, the American government takes out a promissory note.
We owe them back a million plus interest.
So we owe them more money than we borrowed, which makes it literally impossible to pay back, at least to pay back the interest.
We could pay back the principal maybe.
Right.
Do you support defaulting on the debt on the, or at least on the interest to the Federal Reserve?
unidentified
Yeah.
tommy altman
It's not a very hard one.
tim pool
I mean, look, I think, I thought that, I think that's a hard one.
I mean, I don't grinding the whole system.
tommy altman
But I mean, quite honestly, that system sucks anyway.
You know that, you know, you're right.
You're right.
But, but it is hard work.
You got it.
You can't just go in there and do it.
You can't just rip the bandaid off.
I mean, for crying out loud, like how many people probably lost their lives trying to do that.
ian crossland
Yeah.
If we're going to rip a bandage off, we better have another bandage in our other hand with ready to put pressure on the wound.
tommy altman
You know, I've had a candidate in our debate literally yesterday talk about, oh, just dissolve the IRS.
Well, you can't just dissolve the IRS.
You can't just make it go away.
tim pool
You see this?
This is a pre-Federal Reserve $10 bill from the state of Georgia, Bank of Columbus.
Before the Federal Reserve, you had money.
tommy altman
Right.
And people would be- Backed by something.
tim pool
Backed by a bank with gold in the reserves.
And so you could go to New York with this and they'd be like, oh, Great.
It's a banknote.
It has value.
If I need to.
And so they traded it like any other currency.
The Federal Reserve was just put in place so they could manipulate and control.
tommy altman
Yep.
And it's not just here.
I mean, it's internationally.
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
The Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland.
tommy altman
So I mean, the funny thing is that I think that most of us Americans, until we really start doing some deep dives into these topics, we think it's a pretty simple answer.
Then we start looking at it and we're like, oh, no, it's not.
Go back to gun control, right?
So everybody starts going, well, let's let legislators make new legislation that's going to make us safe.
No, it's not.
If legislation made us safe, none of these children would be dead right now.
Because it was illegal for that guy to walk inside the school and shoot the kids.
Both of those things are illegal.
Shooting the kids is illegal and going inside the school with a gun is illegal.
tim pool
There's got to be some kind of grand conspiracy going on because we put up signs saying gun-free zone.
How could he have walked past that?
tommy altman
You must need bigger signs.
tim pool
There's got to be something going on because there's no way to explain how someone could walk past a sign like that with a gun.
tommy altman
Well, here's the frustrating thing, too, because people go, oh, you're making light of it, so you don't care about these kids.
Right?
Which is intellectually dishonest.
The problem is we cannot use tragedy, we can never allow ourselves to let tragedy dictate policy.
Because if we do that, what's to stop somebody from creating said tragedy to strip you of whatever rights or freedoms they want to.
ian crossland
When the Reichstag burned in Germany, Hitler used that as an opportunity to seize people's civil rights.
tim pool
So just keeping it on the Federal Reserve stuff, I think it's fascinating because a lot of people running for office would be too scared to even talk about the problems of the Federal Reserve, the manipulation of interest rates, quantitative easing, all this stuff.
tommy altman
Hey, look, man, I never thought I'd be running for office.
I mean, look at me, my hands are tattooed for crying out loud.
I never thought I'd be running for office.
I'm running for office because I'm sick and tired of what I've seen.
tim pool
Yeah.
tommy altman
You know, I'm running for office for my sons, our next generation.
You know, I fought twice for this country overseas.
I was one of the first ones into Afghanistan and Iraq.
I turned 22 two days before we went into Iraq in Kuwait.
I was the 10th vehicle to cross the border from Kuwait into Iraq.
I saw firsthand what it looks like for people not to have the same freedoms, the same rights we have guaranteed to us here.
It makes all the difference in the world.
I had a grown man fall on his knees in front of me, threw a translator, tell me, why did you guys leave?
And he's talking about the Gulf War.
He said, if you hadn't left, I wouldn't have had to watch my wife and sister be raped and killed by Saddam's sons.
ian crossland
Those guys were brutal.
tommy altman
Right.
So that's what people are capable of.
That's what human beings are capable of.
We have so many freedoms and rights that guarantee our safety and protection.
Here, that's what I want to see continue.
I have sons.
I don't want to see violence on the streets.
I believe that this is the next cycle or two is maybe the last opportunity that we have not to see violence on the streets.
And that's desperately what I want.
I do not want to see Americans killing Americans.
But I want to see our next generation be free men and women, because that's their birthright.
ian crossland
It's like people want the federal government to protect our rights, but we have to protect our own rights.
We are the federal government.
But what about the military?
Like, who's in charge of the military?
tommy altman
Well, first off, I believe that our rights are God-given and protected by the Constitution.
tim pool
The government ONLY infringes your rights.
tommy altman
Right.
ian crossland
But they also command the military.
It's like Joe Biden's in control of the military.
Well, not in control, but he's in command of the military.
tommy altman
I don't know that Joe Biden's in control of much, let's be honest.
ian crossland
But he's technically the commander of the military right now.
tommy altman
Sure, which is scary, disgusting, all at the same time.
tim pool
Well, look at Afghanistan.
tommy altman
Yeah, I mean, Afghanistan is such a debacle.
luke rudkowski
Iraq was a debacle, too.
tommy altman
It showed all signs of a military surrender, not a withdrawal.
I mean, we know how to tactically withdraw from an area.
They did not tactically withdraw.
Not only that, so it showed all signs of surrender, not only that, the real problem is when you're in a conflict and both sides have to agree the conflict's over.
When one side just pretty much says, you know what, we give up, we're going home, and the other side hasn't agreed that the conflict's over, the conflict's not over.
And now these terrorists who have chanted death to America for generations, and now we've enriched them with $85 billion of our warfighting equipment.
luke rudkowski
Well, we have a history of doing this, so in the 80s, in the Muhajirin, in the Iraq-Iran war, there's a long history of especially covert operations given them, with our tax dollars, all the weaponry that they have, which is absolutely insane that they've been doing this.
tommy altman
I mean, we trained Saddam, we trained Obama, I mean, or Osama.
luke rudkowski
There's a movie called American Made that actually even implicates Bill Clinton, specifically in Arkansas when he was the governor of Arkansas.
Yes, lots of crazy story.
Tom Cruise played a great movie.
The movie's still watered down.
American Made, great movie with Tom Cruise.
Just gives you a little point of view, but waters down the larger scandal that happened with Iran-Contra, that again, drug smuggling, cocaine smuggling, arming rebels inside of Latin America, arming the Iranians, and of course moving on weapons and overthrowing governments, all done by the CIA, while of course introducing crack cocaine into poor communities in the United States.
tommy altman
Which would need some serious oversight in.
luke rudkowski
We never got oversight.
What we got is Fox News contracts for some of the people who were involved in that thing, which is absolutely disgusting.
tim pool
Michael Malice's quote is fantastic.
He said, all I'm asking for is the right to the same weapons I paid for the Taliban to have.
And my response to that is, that's a great quote, all I'm saying is I want a right to the same weapons we paid for the cartels to have.
Thanks Obama!
tommy altman
Now they're driving through our streets because the border is wide open.
tim pool
Yeah, it's amazing.
tommy altman
There's video of cartel members with .50 caliber rifles driving through the streets in Texas.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
That's like, you need the police to defend you.
Well, you don't.
You just need defense.
But if the police aren't there, the people have to form militias to defend themselves.
And then I'm concerned that the federal government's going to be like, no, you're a terrorist organization trying to defend yourself.
Let the cartels roam free.
luke rudkowski
In Mexico, there's entire cities like Tehran with tens of thousands of people that have defended themselves from the cartels.
And when you look at some of the most severe cartels, they have connections to, of course, U.S.
intelligence agencies that have trained them.
There was a Mexican secret police that was trained by U.S.
Special Forces that literally was one of the worst, that turned into one of the worst Mexican drug cartels out there in all of Mexico that started to do all these horrible, brutal things.
So there's a long history of just involvement by government forces making the situation that much worse when they were previously harmonious.
ian crossland
Is that because they want to weak Mexico so that we can dominate the border?
luke rudkowski
Well, there's a lot of corruption inside of Mexico and a lot of politicians willing to look the other way.
And, of course, with the corrupt government, you, of course, have a lot of criminals who are using government for their own personal benefit because the politicians are the true criminals down in that country.
tim pool
We gotta pull up this story.
This is big.
This is... I mean, this is stupid.
Probably not gonna go anywhere, but NBC News reports House votes to raise minimum age to buy semi-automatic rifles to 21.
The provision is poised to be included in a larger legislative package set for a final House vote Wednesday night.
So, I think that's what they did already, didn't they?
Or is this... Okay, so this is what was passed.
It's not just the raising the age from 18 to 21.
Which is so insanely unconstitutional, there's no way that survives.
But it also addresses 3D-printed guns, the tracking of untraceable guns.
Is something going on?
ian crossland
Hot action.
I don't know.
tommy altman
We did talk about the Feds, so.
tim pool
Uh-oh.
Something's going on.
It's always whenever Luke is here.
luke rudkowski
Should I go check it out?
tim pool
I'll just go check it out.
luke rudkowski
I'll make sure everything's okay.
You guys continue the conversation.
tim pool
The first time we got swatted, Luke was talking, and then, like, the police just come in.
tommy altman
Luke, I'm going to be so pissed off.
I got to spend the night in jail tonight.
tim pool
So we have this article.
We're talking about the bill.
tommy altman
Hey, by the way, real fast, my buddy Joshua Carlton texted me.
He said he's watching.
He said he loves you.
Oh, cool.
luke rudkowski
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Josh.
luke rudkowski
It's pretty serious.
tim pool
What's happening?
luke rudkowski
I don't know if you want me to mention.
unidentified
It's, like, it's, yeah.
lydia smith
Uh oh.
So apparently there's something going on.
There are some friendly neighborhood cops who are gonna be swinging by and checking everything out for us.
And hopefully everything will be good.
So this is a text message I think they got saying that something suspicious is happening here.
They're gonna come and check to make sure everything's okay.
tim pool
So it's basically a swatting game.
lydia smith
Basically, yeah.
But we got our security guy here.
He's gonna meet them.
tim pool
Cool!
lydia smith
Yeah, so.
tim pool
We've, uh... It's a good thing we have guns!
lydia smith
Speaking of guns!
tim pool
Yeah.
I have a katana behind me.
ian crossland
And it's a good thing we have security and a good thing that we have a relationship with the local police.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
So this is number nine?
unidentified
I think so.
tim pool
Where's my punch card?
I know, we're really close to that free yogurt.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Really close to a free yogurt.
lydia smith
Anyway, sorry for ditching.
I had to step out.
tim pool
Oh, no, no.
I mean, it happens.
I assumed it's serious if it's going to be happening.
But what, are they coming in or what?
lydia smith
Um, I think they're just gonna sweep, they're gonna check, make sure everything's good.
I'm sure everything's fine.
There's been nothing suspicious actually going on.
tim pool
We know what the message was that was sent or something?
lydia smith
Yeah, so... Wow.
Yeah.
tim pool
So... Yeah, I can't say too much about what we've done for security.
lydia smith
Oh, we're secure.
tim pool
But I would think, I would say we're actually well above secure at this point.
I'm not super worried about this stuff.
It's just, it can be disruptive, I guess.
So there you go, everybody.
unidentified
Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool
Actually, I kind of feel like this sounds a little bit more than a swatting, you know what I mean?
lydia smith
Yeah, so this is a little...
Interesting.
A little more casual.
I want to hear more details on it, because I guess it was a text message that was sent, and I'm not sure who it was sent to.
unidentified
A text to who?
tommy altman
You don't say.
Who's getting a text message?
tim pool
Well, look, look, look, guys.
lydia smith
Yeah, no worries.
tim pool
Considering what just happened in Maryland, we're about, what, 45 minutes away from where that guy showed up at Kavanaugh's.
He flew from California with weapons, planning to kidnap and assassinate Brett Kavanaugh.
I can't say I'm surprised.
We're not that far away.
So there's creepy weirdos.
tommy altman
But so let's talk about this.
luke rudkowski
There's also reports of protests happening outside of Kavanaugh's place right now.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
luke rudkowski
That's crazy.
tommy altman
Here's the thing, though.
Really, all of this boils down to everybody talks about it being a gun issue.
It's not a gun issue.
I think Joe Rogan probably said it best.
You know, we have a mental health issue.
Kind of couched into a gun issue, disguised as a gun issue.
Now, yeah sure, having a mental health issue disguised as a gun issue is a problem.
However, really this is a value of human life issue.
We no longer value someone else as just a human being.
You have value just because I believe you're creating the image of God.
So for me, you have value just in that alone.
We may disagree fundamentally on a lot of social issues and maybe even religious, maybe moral issues.
However, you still have value as a human being.
And most people don't have that anymore.
ian crossland
That's part of the desperation of 1928 that I brought up early.
Weimar, Germany, late Weimar, Germany, early Nazi Germany, when they started to dehumanize other people, probably because they were wealthy and that they didn't, the people that were desperate weren't wealthy anymore.
And they were, they were hating on the wealth.
And so desperation breeds, you know, desperate actions.
Like I need that food.
Why do you get that food?
Why were you born into family that can have food when I, Right.
tommy altman
But for a long time in America, I think that we got to a point where it wasn't so much that we were, we may be going that way, but it wasn't so much that we were needing food.
It was that I liked the Jordans that you had.
And that's a different value system altogether as a society.
You know, for us to be wrapped around that kind of stuff, that's a problem.
Because I think that's where we start not valuing a human being anymore.
And I think that's a very dangerous path for us to go down.
ian crossland
You're talking about like materialism?
tommy altman
Yeah.
Well, and it's not even materialism.
It's just everything's so superficial.
You're not caring about a person.
And so we have to get back to the point as a society.
Because I believe, I firmly believe that Americans, when we're united, we're unstoppable.
We've shown that over and over again.
We showed it after 9-11.
We showed it in World War I and World War II.
We showed it over and over again.
But we've got to get to a point, and I hate that it takes tragedy for it to happen, but we have to get to a point where we are looking at each other no longer as these different buckets that we put ourselves in, this identity politics.
But because you're a human being, you have value to me.
We have to get back there.
ian crossland
I was talking about humans in crowds, and what do the birds think of us when they fly overhead and look at us?
Like at a rock concert with 20,000 people all moving in unison, and they were like, My girlfriend was telling me like they must think we are the most terrifying species on earth because when we form when formation occurs and we come together it's on insanely unstoppable like the power of the human being right and I For better or worse I think of the Nazi the crowds out when Hitler's giving a speech and you see 10,000 Nazis all like marching in secession like it can be horribly manipulated, but it's also
tommy altman
But because you use it to inspire.
Yeah.
And I think that's my hope.
My hope, you know, people talk about, oh, well, you're going to be a politician.
My prayer, honestly, is I never become a politician.
My prayer is I become a statesman, someone who focuses on the next generation.
A politician only focuses on maintaining power.
They focus on the next election cycle.
A statesman is only focusing on the next generation.
And we have to think long term like that.
What is this going to do for the next generation of people?
If we start thinking like that again, I think that provides hope.
ian crossland
What are your humanization tactics when you personally seek to humanize crowds or people you disagree with?
tommy altman
So a lot of it comes back down to my faith.
It really does.
And I understand that people are searching for things.
And I think a lot of times we misunderstand what we're searching for.
But understanding and valuing a person just because they have value, because they're creating the image of God, to me, that's such a great way for me to be able to relate to somebody, because I can cut through all the other stuff if we disagree.
I don't care what it is.
Abortion, police, defunding the police, we call it whatever it is, Second Amendment, I can still value you as a person, and that is very important for us to get to.
ian crossland
When you were at war, oh, do you want to?
tim pool
No, just finish that thought.
ian crossland
When you were in the Middle East, did that What happened with the enemy combatants?
Was there a sense of humanization there?
Or did you have to just pretend like it wasn't there?
What was that like?
tommy altman
A little bit of both.
Honestly, I remember going over it the first time.
It was a very difficult thing for me to process.
Because if what I believe is true, and I believe it is as far as my faith, Then I believe that every single person over there, that their life ended, they were separated from a God who loves them forever.
So that was a very difficult thing for me to process and get to a spot to where I was okay with.
But once you're over there and you're operating, you're simply, you're performing the operation, you're protecting your brother beside you.
It's a completely different thing altogether.
lydia smith
So do you think that social media has played the biggest role in dehumanizing other people?
tommy altman
Oh yeah.
It's so easy to stay behind a keyboard and scream and shout at each other and type in all caps if you're really mad.
tim pool
But it translates into the real world in ways that many of us didn't think were going to happen.
We kept saying Twitter wasn't real life.
tommy altman
Right.
tim pool
But then that hatred people feel, they bring to the real world.
tommy altman
You're right.
tim pool
There's a video.
We can't show it in full, but it went up at 8.12.
Secret service takedown of a protester during POTUS motorcade from Fox LA.
This is one of the craziest videos I've seen.
I don't know if it's actually a secret service takedown.
There's a woman who walks into the street in the middle of the motorcade of the president bullhorning.
lydia smith
How did she get there?
tim pool
And the cops run up and slam her to the ground and she attacks the cops.
tommy altman
Well, that's dumb.
tim pool
I mean, dumb.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
It's like people are turning into zombies.
tommy altman
Well, they also want this.
That's the thing.
And that's my thing, even with the mass shootings and stuff like that is, you know, these people want to be memorialized forever.
Even if it's for something bad, they want to be known.
They want this time.
luke rudkowski
And the corporate media, according to many scientific studies now, actually promotes and inspires these mass shootings because of the way that they cover these events.
The way that they show the picture of the individual.
The way that they make him infamous.
The way that they talk about the manifesto.
The details that they give about him.
This essentially creates more mass killers.
There's a reason when someone runs onto a stadium floor during a sports ball game that the cameras don't point to him because they know it's going to inspire other people to do so.
The same thing happens with mass shooters.
So if we really wanted to stop it, we would be covering this differently.
But they don't.
MSNBC and all these other corporate media organizations are literally creating copycat killers and spurring on similar situations.
This is why Buffalo was so close to the situation in Texas, and there might be even another one with how they've been reporting on the Texas situation.
All you have to do is, again, stop focusing on this monster, start focusing on the victims, and you would not only shift the narrative, but you would stop future shootings and mass murderers.
tommy altman
You actually start humanizing.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
Absolutely.
And that's what the corporate media should be doing.
If they really wanted to stop all these very violent events, they would stop promoting these violent murderers and giving them the attention that they want.
tommy altman
Well, they don't want to stop them.
They want the click.
But honestly, I actually think that you would get better ratings if you simply focused on the emotion of it, on the fact that you focus on the victims.
I think you get a lot more engagement from people, but instead they focus on the opposite.
ian crossland
You were also saying how it's like people want to be heard.
This is their way of being heard or seen.
And I wonder if someone is arrested for an attempted mass shooting or mass shooting, maybe, but they're still alive, if we should interview them and let them speak to be heard because then...
tim pool
Then more people will do it.
ian crossland
But you can see how crazy it is as well.
unidentified
If we hide it, then it's like... You call them a monster for what they are.
luke rudkowski
The people who do these shootings are monsters.
tim pool
Yes, but giving them attention means more crazy people... Don't name them.
luke rudkowski
Don't even name them.
Don't show their pictures.
tim pool
That's not it.
That's not it.
Let me tell you guys a story.
I love this story.
It was about 11 years ago.
I'm hanging out.
I was in Virginia, actually.
And 4chan had an operation called Operation King Cone.
That's all it was.
They were watching EarthCam, which is live streams from around the world.
Someone pulled up Times Square, and they said, can we use the collective power of the internet to knock over this street cone?
In the Times Square camera, next to, I think it was TGIF, was a little street cone.
And they said, okay, we've got the meme up, we've got the page up, let's knock it over.
People kept trying crazy things.
Someone ordered a pizza and told the pizza guy, and the pizza guy's like, I don't know what's going on.
You see the guy on the bike ride up with the pizza, everyone's spamming like crazy in the thread, like, he's gonna do it, he's gonna, no, he left.
Then finally at the end of the day, some people are walking by, some young guys, and then all of a sudden they walk past it, stop!
Walk backwards like rewinding and then knock the cone over and then wave to the camera and everybody's cheering saying like, we did it!
Then a woman walks by, picks the cone up, pulls a crown out of her purse and puts it on top of the cone because it was Operation King Cone.
The point is, people are just trying to move the needle in any way possible.
These are people who are bored, they're lonely, they feel like they don't matter at all.
Anything that gets them any kind of acknowledgement.
It doesn't need to be their name.
It needs to be the fact that we talked about the tragedy, period, is what they want.
And they get it even if you don't show them.
They sit back and they watch afterwards saying, all of this because of me.
I don't know how you stopped it.
I think what we need is, I'll tell you the simple answer is, we need dads.
A lot of the, I think that the common profile is no dad.
luke rudkowski
SSRIs as well, heavy use, particularly in many of these particular cases.
Self-harm, self-abuse, and mental health issues, also a very big one.
tommy altman
But how much of that stems from the family unit too?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, absolutely.
tommy altman
We've seen a lot of it correlated.
ian crossland
In the pharmaceuticals, it's no joke, dude.
tommy altman
Sure.
ian crossland
I don't know.
How do you quantify it, though?
How do you know how much damage Adderall is doing to 13-year-olds?
tommy altman
Right.
ian crossland
How can you... I'm asking a genuine question.
tommy altman
I mean, you've got to look at how much the use of it's gone up.
I mean, it's through the roof from what it used to be.
So you're having everybody... And I think it's partially parents, too.
You know, we as parents, we've got to make sure... We have to be much more hesitant to put our kids on stuff that we don't understand.
You know, even even vaccines for crying out loud.
I mean, so and the reason I say that so for my son, my oldest son, you know, I got him a flu shot.
This was a few years back.
And I mean, he had a small seizure after the flu shot.
This was long before you know, COVID and everything else.
And so it made us go cool, we're gonna have a pause on that for a while till we figure out what's going on.
tim pool
But it makes you a conspiracy theorist.
tommy altman
Yeah, well, it is what it is.
I'm gonna do everything I have to do to protect my kids.
tim pool
I mean, the former drummer from The Offspring, he had Guillain-Barre syndrome, so they were like, we don't think you should get this vaccine.
He got kicked out of the band for it.
They were like, sorry, we can't work with you.
It's like, you'd think 17 years would earn you some loyalty, but some people are just, they don't care about that stuff.
tommy altman
No.
ian crossland
Yeah, when a kid's on amphetamines, you'd be like, yeah, I'm not going to get my kid amphetamines.
But then all of a sudden it's like, oh, Pfizer and my doctor said it was okay now.
I guess I'll get my kid amphetamines.
Like, just because.
tommy altman
Because federally, what do we do?
Because that's where my head goes now, right?
We have to remove some of the protections from some of these companies that they're protected.
They can do anything they want to do without any kind of recourse.
No liability.
Same thing with Facebook and Twitter and everything else.
Me as an individual, I can't sue them.
You know, but we should be able to.
luke rudkowski
Yep, you get hurt.
It doesn't matter if your job forced you to do this, if the media told you to do this, if the government told you to do this, if your doctor told you to do this, you get hurt.
You're the one who's going to be responsible, paying for your own medical bills.
No one else is going to be covering or helping you in any way, shape, or form.
So Biden likes to talk about how the gun industry is unaccountable, not liable.
lydia smith
The only industry.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the only industry.
unidentified
Why?
luke rudkowski
Well, that's not the case here, obviously, with all the information that we have in front of us.
tommy altman
They have more accountability than probably any other industry right now.
unidentified
I mean, it's crazy.
lydia smith
I have never understood why the big pharmacy, the big pharmaceutical, you call them a mafia, I've never understood why these people who literally make things that you inject into your body and absorb into your bloodstream have zero accountability.
What is going on, man?
ian crossland
I think it's because they feel like if something does go wrong, which it's bound to eventually, they'll get sued into oblivion and then they can no longer function.
And the value of pharmaceuticals is that modern medicine is a miracle.
But the problem is it's the business of medicine.
They're incentivized to have people be ill so that they buy their medicine.
Like if the fire department was incentivized to put out fires and they got paid more for every fire they put out.
tim pool
We have to evacuate the building.
ian crossland
You better believe that you'd see a lot more fires.
You guys, I love you.
tim pool
We're just going to keep the live stream going, but we have to evacuate the building.
ian crossland
Alright.
lydia smith
We'll be right.
tim pool
So the stream will just stay up as it is.
lydia smith
Please stay tuned.
tim pool
We'll be back.
And just please keep watching in case something happens, but we have to evacuate the building.
tommy altman
If you have the live room break, go to tommyultman.com.
tim pool
We're going to grab something to drink.
We're being told we need to evacuate the building.
So keep watching.
Keep the stream up.
And can you do the wide shot?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright.
Maybe you'll get to watch something happen.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
We have to get out of the building.
unidentified
Let's go!
Bye guys!
Taylor's office.
luke rudkowski
Are you saying this?
unidentified
That's Taylor saying it.
Let's go.
Who's Taylor?
Tyler.
luke rudkowski
Got it.
There we go.
unidentified
Whee!
lydia smith
All right, bye guys.
We'll be back.
unidentified
Bye.
tim pool
I'm so tired!
I'm so tired.
Is it working?
We're streaming.
I'm so tired.
unidentified
I have one button in my control panel and it's my face.
tim pool
Lydia has all the other buttons.
I'm so tired.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
That was fun.
tim pool
How are you guys doing?
lydia smith
Anyway!
tim pool
Where's Tommy?
We owe Tommy another show.
lydia smith
Yeah, Tommy's a... We owe you another show, man!
ian crossland
I had to explain graphene to a few of those guys, so we took a little longer than expected.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Well, yeah, so what happened was, turns out, very obvious and immediate false alarm, and then Ian immediately started explaining graphene, and we all just got wrapped up for three hours.
ian crossland
Hexagonal lattice carbon.
Looks like a honeycomb.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
On and on.
tim pool
Alright.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
Nice night.
lydia smith
That's fine.
luke rudkowski
I'm going to do two hours now.
ian crossland
This is the big payoff.
luke rudkowski
Also, shout out to everyone in the chat room.
Very entertaining.
tim pool
They're keeping a chair cast.
IRL.
luke rudkowski
You guys are already Shapiro.
Point about the door knob.
tim pool
You know what the craziest thing was when we were outside,
right? And cops are in the suite.
unidentified
We just kept hearing coffee, brand And I was like, what's happening?
Coffee?
And I was like, what?
lydia smith
What?
tim pool
Looking around.
And then I open the chat and all I see is chats.
Coffee brand coffee.
I'm like, what's happening?
Quartering.
Jeremy!
He gave us 400 bucks.
More than that.
lydia smith
Thank you, Jeremy.
ian crossland
Shout out to Coffee Brand Coffee.
Is that coffeebrandcoffee.com?
lydia smith
I have no idea.
ian crossland
Let's find out.
tim pool
I was like, my mood was like on a scale of 1 to 10.
One being like, I just want to just like, just lay me down in the bed and close my eyes.
I don't want to think about this anymore.
And then the, the, the, so I was, I was being kind of vague in the tweets, but I'll explain a little bit.
The, the, the supervisor cop walks over and then I was just like immediately a 10.
I'm like, yes!
unidentified
It's over.
tim pool
So basically, credible threat.
That's it.
lydia smith
That's all.
ian crossland
Yeah, better safe than sorry.
tim pool
Yep.
So, you know, normally... Let me clarify a few things for everybody.
My lord, it's past midnight.
lydia smith
So late.
tim pool
I keep seeing people be like, I don't... I can't believe this is real.
Like, how does it keep happening?
Certainly the police realize it's not happening anymore.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Did you watch the cops walk in the room?
I can't believe people are like, okay, the thing is, this is not actually happening.
The cops walked in the room.
And for one, we can't show everything that's happening for security reasons.
We can't just film all these squad cars and vehicles.
luke rudkowski
And protocols and operational security as well.
tim pool
When the bomb robot came out, they told us absolutely no filming is allowed.
lydia smith
Of course not.
tim pool
uh now i will say chicken city has a live audio stream on the property all the time so you can always you know people were tuning into that but um what was i gonna say oh yeah hot chicken action that's what you're hot chicken action there's a rat snake now attacking oh yeah eating the eggs you guys party at a different level around here I want to explain something.
Every single threat results in a police response.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Every single one.
And people are like, why?
Don't the cops realize it's fake?
It's because they have to respond for that reason.
When people do swattings, their goal is to shock the system to the point where the police don't care anymore, but that's not how it works these days.
When you get swatted, the cops show up in full force.
Now, we have multiple security- I can't- I'm not gonna explain.
We- we have armed guards.
I won't go into great detail about that.
And so now when we get swatted, there's a security protocol.
Unfortunately for us, You know, because we've had other issues and we know we've
got security, we know how to handle it.
This time it was credible. And considering what happened in what happened in Chevy Chase with Brett Kavanaugh.
unidentified
Yeah, Brett, yeah.
tim pool
Which just happened today.
Some guy came out with zip ties and weapons.
When... This time when it happened, when we got word that something was going on, I was just like, oh, whatever.
Like, you know, Lydia jumped up and I'm like, oh, is this thing happening?
Oh, whatever.
We have guards for this.
We have protocol for this.
And then I started getting some messages.
And then the key information as to what the issue was contained... It was credible.
unidentified
I will say, being a special operator, your security's pretty good.
tim pool
It's pretty tight.
The issue is that I can't give out too much details to explain how this went down, because obviously people would try to exploit it.
But we had a credible threat, and so that's why you see me get up and leave the room, we assess the situation, then I came back and we have to get out.
And then I was a little bit vague about it, and I'm not going to give away too much about the type of units that were dispatched, but they were specialists.
They were not just beat cops.
And we had to, you know, we had a variety of different branches come out to take care of the credible threat.
And everyone's fine.
Everything's safe.
It's late.
I'm tired.
unidentified
So as I was saying, the pharmaceutical industry, the Federal Reserve and the intelligence agencies.
I want to do that again.
tommy altman
That's over time.
tim pool
So tomorrow we're going to have Tommy back on the show.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Because that was totally brutal, man.
I apologize for you getting dragged in all this.
tommy altman
That's all right.
No, we got to hang out and have some good conversations.
tim pool
We saved a crawfish.
lydia smith
Yeah, we did.
tommy altman
Yeah, there's worse times to time to spend your life.
So I mean, we're good.
ian crossland
You know, it made me think of security in general, because I think a lot of American people, at least I was, I lived with like, I don't, it never crossed my mind.
We had the cops, everything was taken care of civil society, but it's not really naturally like that.
You really got to take care of your your own, you know?
tommy altman
Well, you do.
I mean, that's the reality.
I mean, I mean, I think everything I'm sure we'll talk more about it later.
But I mean, the reality is, I mean, look at the last few weeks, the things that have happened.
You are responsible.
Take care of yourself for sure.
ian crossland
Shout out to the police, man.
You guys rock.
tommy altman
Yeah.
ian crossland
So amazing dudes.
Amazing people.
tim pool
We have, in the analytics, 455,000 total viewers since the show started.
unidentified
But most of it is an empty room.
lydia smith
I am so amused that the empty room was more interesting than we were.
I was a little perturbed.
tim pool
We were like, wait a minute.
ian crossland
Meditation.
luke rudkowski
Everyone was saying that this was better than CNN.
tommy altman
I should have left the website up.
At least people would have been checking out the website.
ian crossland
We'll have better music next time.
tim pool
So here's how it goes down.
We have a security issue.
We increase our security to adapt to it.
Next time a security issue happens, it has no effect.
That's how basically things were going until the bomb squad ended up showing up the last time.
And then we adapted our security and we've solved all these problems.
And most of these adaptations are kind of like really basic, simple things that don't really matter that much.
It's like, oh, you know, if we just like do this, then that like, there's no big deal.
Uh, this time is credible.
I don't think we have to worry about it.
Like it's just, I don't know.
tommy altman
You gotta be better.
It's better safe than sorry.
That always in times like that, you know, I mean, no matter what, no matter how many times that happens, it's definitely better to be safe than sorry.
tim pool
This, you know, it's since January we've had eight other swattings and then one instance of the bomb squad coming out.
But they're so obviously bunk garbage.
tommy altman
Right.
tim pool
So that we just, we adapted our security model and it's, there's no issue.
Some people are saying like they don't understand why this doesn't happen to Ben Shapiro.
The Daily Wire, they, they have a lot of money.
lydia smith
They have a lot of money.
tim pool
They have and it's crazy.
I don't want to say too much, but people with more experience than us know how to take care
of this and better than we've been able to.
So it's really that simple.
I think the show's young.
We've had tremendous and rapid growth over the past year or so.
Now we're building that security protocol so that these things don't happen.
lydia smith
Well, the other thing too is I personally didn't expect to be at this level of influence.
And I don't view us as being extremists or anything.
All we do is talk about the news and current events and for some reason so unbelievably inflammatory to people they think they need to make threats against us.
I don't get it.
ian crossland
I think it just comes with the territory in the entertainment industry.
A lot of it is security-based.
You look at Hollywood and the way they built Paramount Studios, it's just a walled... You can't even get in without... We've had issues, people know about them.
tim pool
It's crazy, when we lived in the South Jersey area, there was a really famous YouTuber who lived a few blocks away.
Literally no security at all.
It was just like a residential house.
And he's got like a expensive car in his driveway.
And I'm just like, millions of subscribers.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Anyway, it's 1222.
So I don't think also YouTube crashed and deleted all the super chats, you know, whatever.
Here I can just I can remember one.
It's Jeremy Hambly saying to buy his coffee.
unidentified
I could use some of that coffee brand coffee right now.
tim pool
I could go for some coffee brand coffee this morning because I got to wake up at 7 a.m.
ian crossland
Oh, good morning, everyone.
unidentified
It's 1223.
tim pool
Yeah, it's funny.
So when the cop walks up to me and he's like going over the report, he's like, it's now Friday.
unidentified
I was like, no, it isn't.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's funny.
unidentified
So.
tim pool
All right.
Tommy, do you want to shout anything out?
tommy altman
No, just go ahead, check out, well, it's the middle of the night now, but check out the website, TommyAltman.com.
I appreciate you guys.
Seriously, I really do think that this is the future of news.
I think corporate news is dead, and this is what's being birthed out of it.
Hey, listen, if this is what came out of COVID alone, then I think maybe it was worth it all.
So, it's great.
tim pool
This has been the change, you know, longer form podcasts and everything.
So, I will say, Yeah, we're definitely not able to get a members-only show up tonight, so I apologize for that.
But we're gonna have Tommy back tomorrow, so we can have another shot at this.
And smash the like button, subscribe, share the show, whatever.
What a fun night, huh?
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
Follow us on Instagram, we have clips.
You can follow me personally on Instagram, where I basically, I don't know, I just post stupid memes or something.
And tweets or stuff like that.
I'm really tired.
Luke.
luke rudkowski
I like doing that.
Thanks for coming on.
I'm excited for the conversation tomorrow.
LukeUncensored.com is my website.
Hope to see some of you guys there.
Ian?
ian crossland
Yeah, hug your friends, man.
Get some rest.
Be kind.
unidentified
Be cool.
ian crossland
Catch you guys later.
lydia smith
Yeah, it was kind of fun to get outside this evening because I never get to get out this time of night.
We saw crawfish.
We saw a bunch of lightning bugs, which I always love.
You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com.
It's Sarah Patchlitz, as well as SarahPatchlitz.me.
tim pool
Yeah, let's see, uh, we'll, uh, we'll have a lot to talk about tomorrow for sure.
And we're all rested up and, you know, it was a crazy day with what, you know, what, uh, what with happened, what, with all that happened with the Supreme court justice.
And then just this happening here is just like, uh, I'm going to make me a hot cocoa with some whipped cream.
lydia smith
Time for bed.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out, everybody, for the three hours, only to come back and get a quick, like, five-minute update.
But we'll be back tomorrow.
Of course, I'll be back at 10 a.m.
at youtube.com slash timcastnews.
I'll have a segment up there.
I don't know what I'll talk about.
Maybe it'll be news.
Maybe I'll just talk about life, because this stuff's crazy.
And we'll see y'all then.
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