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May 30, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Canada Moves To Effectively Ban ALL HANDGUNS w/Sharyl Attkisson & Carrie Sheffield
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tim pool
this video is going viral and it shows Justin Trudeau announced a new
legislation in Canada that will freeze importing buying or selling handguns
effectively banning them but all but banning them Oh, if you have one, fine, but you can't get a new one, you can't bring a new one in, you can't make it, you can't sell it, you can't buy it.
That's it.
It is one of the most shocking moves I've seen.
Now, we're not Canada.
We're the United States.
But the conversation is certainly happening here in the U.S., where we've got people, outright, prominent liberal personalities saying, ban all guns.
And then other liberals are saying, like, nobody wants to ban all the guns.
And I'm like, did you listen to what they just said?
Joe Biden came out and said no one should have a nine millimeter.
If you're not familiar with what that is, it's like a Glock.
It's the handgun that cops use.
It's extremely common.
It's probably one of the most common handgun rounds.
And it's small, and he called it high-caliber.
And it'll blow out your lung!
Nobody should have it!
Here we go.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, if someone shoots you in the lung with a bullet, it's going to destroy your lung.
tim pool
But blow it out of your body?
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's what he was saying.
Well, that's brilliant.
Weapons expert Joe Biden, you let out two blasts!
As he said to his wife.
tim pool
So we'll talk about that.
We've got a kid in Florida, 10 years old, was arrested for making a joke to his friend about buying rifles.
And they published the kid's name and face, which is kind of shocking.
We've got inflation is obviously the huge issue, so they can try and talk about guns all day and night.
It's not really having a big impact.
And I think we're gonna have to talk about a couple things.
We got Paramount Plus sponsoring a drag event where a child is dancing on stage for money from the audience.
And then we've got the Ethan Klein story where last week he called for a terror attack against the NRA convention before quickly walking it back and telling people not to do it.
He then went on to tell people to commit other acts of violence.
And then had to walk that back, and I don't even know what we're allowed to explain because YouTube might, like, explaining what he said to do, I don't know if we can do that.
So we'll talk about all that, and I just want to shout out Matt Walsh, because I watched, I got an advanced screener of What Is A Woman.
It was so good.
It was absolutely incredible.
They did an amazing job editing that documentary.
So, uh, this is, this is not like a paid spot or anything.
I just, I got to watch it and I was really impressed.
I thought it was really good.
It was shocking.
It was funny.
And that's going to, they're, they're putting that out on June 1st.
So just as an aside, I'm, I want to talk about it so bad, but I can't cause it's not out yet.
Anyway, we're going to talk about related things though.
Joining us, we have a couple of journalists.
We have Cheryl Atkinson.
sharyl attkisson
Hello.
With a voice this time.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Would you like to introduce yourself?
sharyl attkisson
Yes.
I'm an independent journalist formerly of CNN, CBS, PBS, you name it, local news.
Kind of on my own with a Sunday TV show we feed to 43 million households every Sunday now on various affiliates around the country.
lydia smith
Awesome.
tim pool
Right on.
Reformed mainstream journalist.
sharyl attkisson
I'm still the same.
It's everybody else changed.
lydia smith
I agree.
tim pool
We also have Carrie Sheffield.
carrie sheffield
Hey everybody, good to be back.
Thanks for having me.
I love that today's Memorial Day and I'm by the flag.
Thank you very much.
And I want to say thank you to all our veterans and the men.
And I want to say, I was talking about this with Lydia earlier, that real masculinity is not toxic.
And it was real men who stormed the beaches and saved us in World War II.
And we owe them all a debt of gratitude.
I work for Independent Women's Forum. We're a group that loves men, a women's
group that loves men. Can't say that. And we're working on some issues which I'll
get into to preserve women's rights. What is a man? An adult male.
unidentified
It's not that complicated.
seamus coughlin
My name is Seamus Coughlin.
I have been absent for about a week.
I am back.
I apologize for leaving.
I hope you can all accept that apology and welcome me back into your hearts because I've got some good news!
tim pool
They said no.
unidentified
Too bad.
seamus coughlin
I'm imposing myself upon this family.
Very good news.
We just launched FreedomTunes.com.
We officially have a website up.
The public videos are still being hosted from YouTube, but we're working on moving that over.
And we have a members-only section, where for five bucks a month, you will get one new cartoon each week that the public doesn't get, only donors get.
You will also get two behind-the-scenes videos.
And you will be supporting the show without needing to use Patreon or some other platform controlled by Big Tech.
And there's like five cartoons up there already and a bunch of behind the scenes stuff if you guys want to go check
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that out.
seamus coughlin
Including Tim and I doing some improv.
Or actually that's going to be up in two days.
tim pool
Which one was that weird?
seamus coughlin
The one where we like basically came up with...
I gave you the rough...
The really offensive one?
lydia smith
I said improper.
seamus coughlin
I wouldn't go that far.
I sent Tim a rough script for the Fauci cartoon we did with the voicemails, and we improvved a bunch of it.
It's really funny.
That's going to be up in a couple days.
tim pool
We improvised Fauci as a casting director in Los Angeles, but Seamus said it went too far.
seamus coughlin
No, I did not.
unidentified
Yes, no.
It went too far.
seamus coughlin
I didn't go with that one.
carrie sheffield
Interesting.
seamus coughlin
But we did go with Fauci blowing up the voicemail at the mainstream media.
tim pool
That was funny too, though.
lydia smith
That was awesome.
Thank you, thank you.
And I am also here in the corner with these two lovely ladies.
Very excited to hear what they have to say.
Excited to hear about this women's bill that they're coming up with over at the Independent Women's Forum.
Hopefully we can get into that this evening.
tim pool
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Let's read that first story!
Probably one of the most shocking stories I've seen in a long time.
I couldn't believe it when I saw this video.
Trudeau announces national plan to freeze importing, buying, or selling handguns.
Now what really freaked me out about this is the way that he actually reads it.
Let me see if I- I'm gonna play this video for you guys.
Listen to this.
justin trudeau
We're introducing legislation to implement a national freeze on handgun ownership.
What this means is that it will no longer be possible to buy, sell, transfer, or import handguns anywhere in Canada.
In other words, we're capping the market for handguns.
tim pool
I think that's enough.
I don't want to listen to any more of that man.
Yeah, really.
The whispery, feathery way he's talking.
unidentified
We're capping handgun market.
tim pool
He sounds like a Bond villain.
This is really creepy stuff.
Seeing all these people post online about banning guns outright.
Then they come out and say, nobody's trying to ban your guns.
They're literally trying to ban your guns.
And I think the important context here is that I think we've seen from history what happens every single time guns get banned.
sharyl attkisson
Well, I don't understand, yes, what one has to do with the other.
I'm certainly interested in a rational discussion about what needs to be done after these tragedies.
I think a lot of people are.
But to jump ahead to something like what does this have to do with Canada and banning guns?
What does the tragedy in Texas have to do with that?
tim pool
Well, I don't think it does.
I think we're just seeing the scale at which this ideology wants to go.
So in the United States, they know they can't come out and say, ban all the guns, because nobody wants that.
In the United States, they know they can't say that.
In Canada, they can just do it.
sharyl attkisson
Do they want it in Canada?
Is it different there?
tim pool
I can't speak for Canadians.
sharyl attkisson
He got a lot of applause in the room.
carrie sheffield
Well, he introduced the bill.
It was a bill, so we'll see what happens with the lawmakers.
But yeah, I mean, it's just bizarre.
But it's still nothing new under the sun.
I mean, we've seen this from other regimes, and it is...
Fascism, when the government wants to take control of the firearms and take them away from the people.
And what I find hypocritical is people who were cheering, you know, the Ukrainians all arming themselves and just saying this is a great thing.
You know, good for them for arming themselves.
You know, the hypocrisy.
tim pool
They're posting videos of child soldiers in Ukraine, praising them.
And I'm just like, man, this got dark real quick.
unidentified
Wow.
sharyl attkisson
I mean, isn't Ukraine the exact reason why some people here say we should not be disarmed?
The very thing that's happened to the Ukrainians, it could be argued, which is they taught right before the invasion of Russia, they were actually training the local citizens and how to use their weapons in combat that they already had.
It almost makes the case for the opposite of what they're arguing now.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Well, and not just Ukraine.
The rioting that happened for months on end in this country that was praised by the left wing.
They sit there and tell us that rioting is an acceptable response when politics doesn't go their way, basically.
And then they turn around and tell you, what, a couple weeks to months later, oh, you have no reason to own a firearm.
tim pool
Let me send you a therapist.
During the George Floyd riots, there was a guy in New York who called 911 because people
were breaking into his apartment building and fighting.
And he said, I need help.
carrie sheffield
The dispatcher said, sir, let me send you a therapist.
tim pool
They said the city is under attack.
What would you have us do?
Good luck.
I mean, these people vote for this stuff.
Or they ignore it and let it happen.
And then, when danger comes a knockin', you ain't got no one to count on.
So we saw- here's the fascinating thing about all of the gun control stuff, is that there are people currently arguing for gun control when we just saw the police in the Yuvaldi incident not go in, but use their authority to stop the parents from going in who were armed.
Disgusting.
seamus coughlin
Which is what gun control is, by the way.
Allowing the criminals to have guns, but preventing people who want to protect themselves and their families from having guns.
And so, another take I saw from a number of lefties was, this proves that the AR-15 is too dangerous because he had one and so the police were too afraid to stop him.
Firstly, many of those officers had ARs.
But secondly, if the AR-15 is too dangerous and terrifying for a police officer to go up against, who's going to confiscate them?
How are you going to ban them?
lydia smith
That's a great question.
sharyl attkisson
Well, that's the problem, again, with the Canadian proposal.
You're taking care of something that's not happened yet.
You're not taking care of the stuff that they're complaining about now, which is the current ownership of guns there.
Can't do anything about that.
tim pool
You know what, though?
Watching these people, these liberals, try and ban guns, because I always say this.
The leftists want guns.
Karl Marx said to keep guns.
The leftists typically want them.
The funny thing about it is that they're so ignorant of guns, gun policy, gun mechanics, that they're actually losing.
Now, they win some things, like Maryland has banned the M1A, and it's like, for what reason?
What does that accomplish?
It's ridiculous.
But...
36 states have permitless open carry.
25 states have constitutional carry.
Florida is soon to be the 26th state with constitutional carry.
So while the liberals are screaming banning assault weapons, they can't define what assault weapon is, so nothing happens.
And then on the right, they're enacting constitutional carry at the state level.
And so now you have 36 states, permitless open carry.
I mean, that's kind of crazy.
We used to, if you look in the 80s, There was no concealed carry.
Now, almost every single state has to allow concealed carry.
And 25 are constitutional, meaning you can just, if you live in the state, you don't need a permit at all.
You can conceal if you want.
So they're losing.
And no matter how many times we scream that you're ignorant of the laws, they don't pay attention.
So let them ban the ridiculous nonsense and lose.
carrie sheffield
So here's what's sick about it also, when you're talking about the Soros-funded prosecutors who are going and picking and choosing which laws they want to enforce.
So, you know, in Los Angeles or New York or St.
Louis, you could theoretically have, you know, one of their prosecutors choose to enforce these gun laws, but then let, you know, a rapist walk free because we need restorative justice.
And that's disgusting, throwing the book at things that, you know, whatever political Marxist agenda you have.
sharyl attkisson
And then let's talk about what really happens behind the scenes, because I'm really big on the notion that I've had so many Democrats and Republicans confess that what they do on Capitol Hill, they often agree on behind the scenes, but just not in front of everybody.
And when I broke the Fast and Furious scandal about the government, in essence, gun running drugs, guns to Mexico illegally went before they admitted they were doing that.
Initially at CBS, it was a Democrat leader of a committee on the Senate side that contacted me that wanted to follow up on that story, as sometimes they do when they sense there's a big story coming.
And Republicans also called me, and I shared public information that I had on the story, happy to make the story get more information.
They can issue subpoenas and interview people that I can't get on camera.
But the Democrats quickly bowed out and it was clear it confused me at the time but in retrospect a decision had been made and a staffer actually told me a Democrat staffer in the Senate that this was not a good issue for them because they couldn't figure out how it played with the gun control crowd and the gun control issue and that they had a lot of constituents that support guns and they and I said aren't some issues just this to me wasn't a gun control issue this was the government corruption and all kinds of stuff I said aren't some issues bigger than that debate But it was also covering for Obama, too.
carrie sheffield
That was part of it, too.
sharyl attkisson
Well, the staffer's answer was, you'd like to think so, when I said, aren't some issues bigger than that than politics?
tim pool
So break down the Fast and the Furious scandal for those that aren't familiar.
sharyl attkisson
Well, this was the government got caught through a whistleblower with ATF.
I think it was unprecedented that a sitting federal agent came forward and spoke to me on camera about it.
They had been knowingly selling guns, putting them in the hands of the Mexican drug cartels.
And it was misreported and is still frequently misreported today that there was sort of a sting operation, that they were trying to track the guns to the bad cartel guys and lost track of them.
They didn't attempt to track most of the guns.
That was the problem.
And they were, in essence, arming the Sinaloa cartel down in Mexico, which isn't really a stretch of the imagination looking back, that we often take sides when there are warring factions in countries.
And we were choosing the Sinaloa cartel, apparently, over the Zeta cartel, which were affiliated with terrorists and we perceived as worse.
But regardless, the government was using this issue of guns showing up in Mexico Not telling anybody we were moving them there and saying, look, we need gun control here in the United States because we're selling guns and they're ending up in Mexico, knowing all along that they were putting them there.
tim pool
And this was Obama.
sharyl attkisson
Yeah, under Obama.
And, you know, a lot of those guns killed a lot of people, including a border patrol agent.
That's why an agent stepped forward because he had said, and some of the gun shops that knew this was happening, that ATF was allowing it to happen, were saying, This is going to come back and shoot a federal agent.
Someone's going to get killed with one of these guns and quite a few people got killed with those guns.
carrie sheffield
So to recap, they would rather arm Mexican cartels who will kill US ATF agents while take away the guns of law-abiding Americans.
seamus coughlin
They'd rather arm the Taliban.
Yeah. Yeah. They'd rather arm the Mujahideen, right?
carrie sheffield
They'd rather arm ISIS. What was it, $8 billion of equipment?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly. I mean, our government has this very interesting habit of funding and
arming groups that end up killing Americans. Hmm. Sus.
tim pool
How did you find out it was a whistleblower who came forward?
sharyl attkisson
This, to this day, I don't know who tipped me off.
I got a one-paragraph tip in the mail, a letter that said, Senator Grassley is looking into this.
And it briefly described something that sounded plausible, but so many of my stories start out that way.
And I called Senator Grassley's office.
I knew he had a whistleblower.
And Grassley's office at the time would not cooperate with me for various reasons.
And I identified the whistleblower, his girlfriend at the time.
She called me, because I did sort of a generic story with what I knew, because that will stir the pot and bring out other sources sometimes.
She called me out of the blue, and I wrote down the number it came in on at CBS.
And she said, my boyfriend is a source on this, and he may want to talk to you, but not today.
And he never called back.
She said he might call in the next day or two.
And I had written down the number, and I called back two days later when I really needed that next story and knew there was something serious going on.
And I said, I think I know who he is.
And I had done enough poking around of who the teams were that were working on these issues in Arizona and so on.
And he got on the phone with me and I said, I know you're probably John Dodson.
And he said, whoa, you know, and it was.
And it took a lot of doing to convince him to go on camera as a sitting federal agent.
He's been made to pay ever since.
Now, they didn't fire him because members of Congress stepped in, primarily Grassley's office,
every time he got threatened.
But he's been held out as a dog when he should be the hero that
everybody emulates to blow the whistle when bad stuff and murder, you know, may be happening as a result of things
the government has done, but instead he's been treated just horribly, and that's the lesson that was sent out to other
federal agents that might blow the whistle.
tim pool
A good journalist should be a conspiracy theorist, to a certain degree.
sharyl attkisson
You have to be because you learn that, for me anyway, most of what I hear will not turn out to be true,
and I try to disprove it on its face.
So when I hear the Fast and Furious tips, I start going about trying to disprove the story and when I can't, then I start seeing if I can prove it.
But you do have to believe My funny story is my husband's former law enforcement.
He's a lawyer and I would come home and tell him about a tip I got or a story I'm working on over the years and he would always go, that's just crazy!
That can't be true!
And he said that about Fast and Furious and I said, You know, we always say that, and then sometimes they are.
carrie sheffield
Well, what I think is also very upsetting is the weapons flowing from the other direction.
So a lot of the illegal firearms coming up from Mexico, but because the left doesn't want to shut down our border, those are coming and circulating in our inner cities.
Especially, you know, for white liberals who say they care about our inner cities and, you know, violence for black Americans in predominantly minority neighborhoods.
But they will not close down the border.
And to me, that's white supremacy, right?
You don't care about black lives.
When black lives are being killed by illegal firearms from Mexico, where are the protests?
I never hear about this.
tim pool
I don't think it should be shocking to anybody that the people who advocate for slowing population growth are in favor of things that inhibit population growth.
They're in favor of children being sterilized, they're in favor of abortion, and they're in favor of destroying economies which stagnate growth.
sharyl attkisson
Well, as you know, again, as a journalist, you like to poo poo stuff and me in the early part of my career in particular, and then so many of the things turn out to be true.
And I think of the something somebody tweeted not long ago that became my favorite tweet, which said, I have to find some new conspiracy theories.
Because all my old ones came true.
unidentified
Oh, that's a good one.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, it's repeatedly happened with respect to, I mean, many things surrounding COVID-19.
The lab leak hypothesis is one I bring up pretty frequently, but it's also insane that it was so straightforward and clear as an explanation that it leaked from a laboratory because the disease was first discovered near that laboratory, near a virology institute.
They're like, No, it came from a bat.
And you're actually... A thousand miles away.
A thousand miles away, and you're the crazy one if you don't believe that.
tim pool
Gaslighting.
Here's what Trudeau said.
He said, Other than using firearms for sport shooting and for hunting, there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives.
That's amazing.
sharyl attkisson
What's the Canadian Constitution say about guns, if anything?
tim pool
I don't think it does.
sharyl attkisson
Not enough.
tim pool
Yeah, probably nothing.
But, you know, Canada, man, oof.
They vote for it.
I think we're lucky in a lot of ways that Canada is doing what they're doing so that we can see.
We get to watch all the stuff that's going on in that country.
carrie sheffield
Well, I'm just excited to see what the truckers are going to do next.
tim pool
I don't know.
We'll see if this even makes it through because it is just a bill.
seamus coughlin
Also, I thought his country was just taken over by a bunch of supposedly fascist truckers who were honking their horns in the name of white supremacy or something, and he's like, there's no reason anyone would need to protect themselves in this country.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
It's a great point.
seamus coughlin
Both of those things don't fit together.
Now, obviously, it's because he knows that the truckers were not actually dangerous with respect to the physical health and safety of his citizens, the way they wanted to make it sound.
They were just dangerous to the social order he was seeking to establish.
And so was owning a firearm.
tim pool
You know, I want to bring up the story about Ethan Klein.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Ethan Klein is a podcaster.
He's particularly prominent, and he recently called for a terror attack against the NRA, and it's funny.
Ethan Klein has been calling for, you know, gun restrictions, gun control, but he's just, on his own podcast, exemplified exactly why people probably need guns for self-defense.
On his show last week, YouTuber Ethan Klein calls for bombing of NRA conference.
Klein prefaced his calls for violence by promoting sales of his new shirts, which read, end gun violence.
So he immediately walks it back.
I don't want to play it because I think YouTube doesn't allow this stuff, even in this context.
There's a few things I want to point out about this.
Allied liberals in the media are saying, Ethan Klein was joking about doing it.
His wife says, I feel hopeless, like there's nothing we can do, I'm paraphrasing.
Then he says, does anyone know what's going on with that NRA conference?
Calls for extreme violence against it.
His wife then says, mm-hmm.
That's what, the mm-hmm is what really got me.
I'm like, yo!
He just said to, told your audience of millions of people to commit a terror attack, and you were just like, mm-hmm?
No, no, no.
His producer apparently said something, and then he immediately walks it back like, okay, no, no, no, don't do that, don't do that.
Apparently during the show as well, he told people to fire guns into the air.
lydia smith
What?
tim pool
And then when he was also told, like, no, don't do that, the bolts come back down, he said, okay, well, blanks.
Just fire blanks.
He called for, uh, sticking a piece of wood into the Texas governor's wheelchair to cause him physical injury, I guess.
The video ends up getting taken down.
He's been suspended from YouTube for a week.
And his immediate reaction was to say, you know, he doesn't believe in violence, but Republicans are the party of dead children, and that now they're harassing them and sending them death threats, and they're anti-Semites.
So, it's- it's mind-numbing, you know, that this is the- the current state of politics.
I genuinely- I- I- Seriously, I- I wonder why it is people would be entertained or, like, that- they would like that idea.
Yeah, I- I don't know who would watch a show like that and be like, yes, that's a- that's a good thing and I will defend that.
sharyl attkisson
There's a lot of people, apparently.
You know, this is the story of the past six years.
One side telling the other what they shouldn't do, but at the same time advocating for much the same themselves.
It just doesn't make a lot of sense, but there's an audience for it, apparently.
carrie sheffield
Kathy Griffin with the Trump head, severed head.
Madonna saying she wants to blow up the White House.
Snoop Dogg shooting.
tim pool
Coventry Kids wood chipper.
seamus coughlin
People like this can make threats towards anyone whose political views are unpopular and that's considered completely socially acceptable, which is kind of one of the reasons you need to arm yourself.
tim pool
Well, right, so my response now is if anyone ever says, why would anyone in this country need a gun, I would say, because a popular liberal YouTuber called for a terror attack on a convention, because a guy who worked for Disney called for throwing children into a wood chipper, Because a comedian who does CNN's New Year's showed herself a mock holding up the severed head of the president.
You know, I can go on, but as long as they want to say stuff like that, I'm going to exercise my right to keep them in their arms.
Look, we've gotten death threats.
We've gotten swatted eight or so times.
We've had the bomb squad come out here.
These people are not doing themselves any justice by saying there's no reason to have guns when they are, you know, advocating for or calling for violence.
And then you see the George Floyd riots.
And then as I'll say that, I'll be like, well, why would people need guns?
Because in 2020, we saw the worst race riots we've seen in the past 50 years with over $2 billion in tract damage.
Probably more damage than that, but the insurance companies only paid up to that much.
You saw around 26 to 30 or so dead people from those riots.
I kind of think the left is They've absolutely done everything in their power to make sure we truly understand why we need guns.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, they call for insurrection and threaten to riot every single time something doesn't go their way.
sharyl attkisson
But we remember what happened also during the riots.
When the police were called, they wouldn't go into some areas.
You were left to your own devices.
There were business owners that thought, all I want to do is kind of guard my storefront and I'll call the police if there's an attack.
And they did so.
And the police couldn't or wouldn't come in there.
Yeah, that seemed to prove the point.
carrie sheffield
And then you have David Dorn, who was murdered trying to protect, you know, he was an off or retired cop and tried to protect his friend's pawn shop during those riots.
And he was murdered, you know, so.
And I think what's also upsetting is the the exact opposite with Trump and January 6th.
And in his language, it was the not even remotely anything like what this Klan guy is saying.
He was saying very normal things that politicians say when they're upset about elections and
using the same sort of language.
And then he also said, I think it was up to at least 10,000 National Guard troops I want
there.
And it was Nancy Pelosi who turned them down.
So everything is twisted, exactly the opposite.
tim pool
You know what I was thinking when I was seeing the story about Ethan and Atri podcast is
that he got started by doing edgy comedy on Reddit and YouTube.
No political background, not well-versed in politics, but because politics has become pop culture, he's adopted politics.
So now he's getting more political because this is what people care about.
I mean, the market dictates.
For me, it's kind of the other direction.
I started with political activism, working at nonprofits, and then moved into media.
So I think for me, it's like, I come from a place where I've lived it, I've experienced it, I've been reading about it, I've been actually advocating for policy back, you know, when I used to do the non-profit stuff, and now here I'm in media talking about all this, and there's a large conversation.
Ethan Klein's podcast has comparable viewership to our podcast.
And so he's got millions of followers who watch this, but they're getting a pop culture perspective on political
issues with limited knowledge and very short relative knowledge.
So, you know, we've had some of these leftists on the show.
They're like, I was too young during Joe Biden. I don't remember Obama. I was 12.
You know, it's like 22 now. I have no idea what happened.
And so, you know, for many of us, especially the people who watched in the key demo, we remember what it was like under
Obama, under Biden.
We remember the killing of the Americans without charge or trial, the killing of American children, the drone strikes on civilians.
We remember the corrupt dealings.
Many people have no idea.
So you'll get someone like Ethan Klein, I think he's like a year older than me.
Doing a show where all of a sudden he's in politics, it would be akin to me one day saying, we're a football podcast now, because people like football and we're going to talk about football.
Yeah, we'd retain viewership, we'd slowly start building up that audience, but I have no idea anything about football.
sharyl attkisson
Well, it's scary to realize, as I do, I'm probably the oldest person in this room, that there are people that don't remember 10 years ago.
If people started watching the news, and there's obviously a whole generation of kids, That wasn't watching news until 2016 and post, which is, I think, when there was one of the biggest, fastest transformations of what we see as news with all the fake fact checks and so on and the bias.
That's all they know.
That's what they think the news does.
The news tells you what to think.
The news tells you who's right and wrong, you know, gives their opinion and tries to force that down your throat.
And the news censors so that you don't think the wrong thing.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, absolutely.
And just when you look at how bold they're getting and how just emboldened people who are on the side of the establishment feel to, you know, spew this kind of violent rhetoric, could you even imagine a mainstream celebrity or YouTube celebrity who just began to comment on political issues from a conservative perspective said that people should bomb some left-wing organization, said that they should do that, like the ACLU or a Planned Parenthood conference or something Like that.
I mean, first of all, it would be a story everyone was talking about, but it would also be used as an excuse to censor every single other conservative in the sphere.
Because they would say, well, this one guy was a radical lunatic, and so that means we need to censor everyone else who's ever associated with them or is near them, because we're just gonna get more of this unless we really stomp down on it quickly.
He can say something as horrific as this, which is literally a direct incitement to terrorism, and it's totally acceptable.
He goes, I'm sorry, I'm sorry guys, and then it just goes away?
tim pool
I don't think he said he was sorry at all, actually.
seamus coughlin
Wow, okay, fantastic.
tim pool
I think he said, I got a little passionate there, I should walk that back.
And then later came out and said it was a joke, and I'm like, dude, you weren't joking, and your wife agreed with you when you said it.
It was only after your producer, or somebody, you like, he looks over at him and then says, okay, okay, I'll walk that one back.
Got a little passionate there.
And then he called for other things, like firing guns into the air, which is lethal.
What?
Like, it's extremely dangerous.
sharyl attkisson
Don't blanks also kill you if they fall?
tim pool
Well, blanks don't reject anything.
unidentified
Well, if you put a blank up to someone's head, yeah, you can.
tim pool
He was saying, fire into the air.
There's nothing that comes out.
It's just a blast.
carrie sheffield
But you know a crazy would hear that and take it a step too far.
tim pool
So, I mean, it's incitement, but it's just... If anyone on the right or anyone anti-establishment said that, their channel would be removed immediately.
Permanently.
And they would get banned across the board from every other platform.
carrie sheffield
Yeah, has he been banned elsewhere?
He's been banned on Facebook or Instagram?
tim pool
No, I don't know about that.
He's suspended for a week.
seamus coughlin
Can I ask you a question?
carrie sheffield
From just YouTube or anything else?
tim pool
Yeah, just YouTube.
Just a one-week suspension.
carrie sheffield
So none of the other ones?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Just a one-week suspension.
Alex Jones said something of... Yep.
I'm gonna say it.
You know, he said to people... What?
He said, get your battle rifles ready cuz blah blah blah blah.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And he was saying that it was figurative.
They didn't care.
They said, you're gone.
lydia smith
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Also, yeah, which is a much more reasonable explanation, right?
There is no figurative version of go bomb these people at this time.
Someone should go bomb this group.
That's not figurative.
That is a clear-cut, literal statement.
You can't fall back on it.
It was just a joke, guys.
Alex Jones gets banned from everything, Ethan Klein doesn't.
Of course.
tim pool
Here's another thing that they do.
These leftists will say, will call for violence, and then they'll say, in Minecraft.
And I'm like, oh please.
That doesn't work legally, but apparently it does because they're not getting raided by the feds, they're not getting suspended.
They will say things like, people need to take up their guns and go attack this group in a video game.
seamus coughlin
And then?
tim pool
And they're like, oh well, we can't ban it.
seamus coughlin
When the news cycle changes to being outraged about, like, a phony insurrection, they're gonna get up on their high horse about how insurrection is horrible, even though they're constantly calling for violence.
sharyl attkisson
There was that mom that spoke at one of the school board meetings where the parents have been around the country kind of irate about all the things going on.
carrie sheffield
You mean the domestic terrorists?
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
sharyl attkisson
And she said something like, I'm coming here Monday fully armed if you make the kids wear masks, whatever it was.
We're not having it anymore.
And they arrested her for that.
And she said she was being figurative.
She meant armed to... She said something that she said, we mean to unseat you.
lydia smith
Right.
sharyl attkisson
I didn't mean I was going to come and hurt anybody.
But yeah, they arrested her.
carrie sheffield
But they didn't arrest Klein.
Because he's calling for physical harm also.
Actually called for physical harm.
On the governor.
sharyl attkisson
He didn't mean it real fast.
tim pool
Do you guys remember Boogie?
He fired a gun into the air.
Do you guys know the story?
He's a YouTuber.
And he pulled out a .22 and he raised it up and fired.
He got charged for that, I'm pretty sure.
He got arrested and charged.
My point here is...
What?
He walked it back right away and said he got a little passionate.
I don't know if that's an affirmative defense for a direct incitement to terror, to be honest.
Like, I don't know if you can call for something like that on a show to millions of people and then walking it back.
sharyl attkisson
If people say they still heard it and that still, you know, told them what you thought.
tim pool
Yeah.
So I don't, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm wondering if when you get arrested for terroristic threats, if you said, I immediately said no.
sharyl attkisson
It probably mitigates it, but I'm not sure.
tim pool
Yeah.
I think the response from the DA would be, so you confess.
seamus coughlin
Well yeah, and also, as if some maniac in his fanbase who would commit an act of violence is gonna go, oh, he said he got too passionate, I'm not gonna do it now.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I gotta be honest though, I don't really care all that much in the sense that I don't expect him to face any repercussions from this.
I'm surprised he got suspended.
It took like a day or two before he actually had any adverse reaction from YouTube, which was surprising.
He made multiple calls for threats of assault or violence.
What people need to understand about assault is that depending on your jurisdiction, assault doesn't mean physically attacking someone.
sharyl attkisson
It's verbal.
It can be verbal.
tim pool
Or it can be an action.
So in Illinois, assault is putting someone within reasonable fear of harm.
So when he called on people to fire blanks, he's calling for people to assault the home
of the governor, depending on the jurisdictional context.
I'm not sure Texas has that in New York.
Assault is causing actual physical harm.
That means that if someone grabs you but doesn't cause any visible bruise, the cops are going
to be like no assault occurred, which is which is weird.
So it depends on jurisdiction.
But when I say I don't care, nothing's going to happen.
I mean, I'm surprised it did.
And this is we know.
We know they did it years ago with the riots.
We know they did it in 2017 with the riots in D.C.
We know they get away with it.
We know that D.C.
actually paid Antifa millions of dollars in a lawsuit, or have to pay, after their charges were dismissed.
The Antifa people filed a lawsuit and won against the city.
So not only do they continue to do this, they continue to escalate it.
Yeah, I accept that as a reality.
What more can you expect?
sharyl attkisson
Do you think the suspension, sort of going off a little turn here, that you didn't expect on YouTube, does that have anything to do with the Elon effect?
Are there token steps being made in some instances now because everybody recognizes that when things aren't fair and they're very one-sided, someone like Elon could come in and do something?
tim pool
No, he couldn't buy YouTube.
And the fact that H3 wasn't terminated immediately for this shows the bias.
Alex Jones got wiped out across the board on every platform all around the exact same time.
And it was for nebulous reasons.
sharyl attkisson
But if YouTube hadn't suspended this guy for a week, would anybody have raised Cain other than people they don't care about?
seamus coughlin
It covers them, right?
And it allows them to say, oh no, we did take action against him, of course, we suspended him.
tim pool
So the issue here is, what he said was so far beyond what they could ever try to defend.
I mean, saying someone should bomb a building or whatever, Was so far beyond anything they could argue was allowed, they had no choice.
And all they did was give him a single strike.
But it's like, they called it bullying and harassment.
That's what they did.
They said, the video's been removed for bullying and harassment.
I'm like, wow.
Calling on your millions of people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Incitement to a terror attack.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, actual terror.
tim pool
I know he walked it back after he got called out.
lydia smith
Doesn't matter.
tim pool
But seriously, we've not been extended that courtesy.
When we had Alex Jones on the show, he made a comment about the death penalty.
And I immediately called him out and said, dude, none of that, you can't say that.
And YouTube said, we don't care.
And I was like, not only was it not me, we said no to it.
And they were like, so what?
And we got a warning because we don't have, we didn't have, that was our first warning.
So for Ethan, I guess, he's already had his warning.
So now you get one warning and then you move on a strike.
So for us, we didn't get taken down.
carrie sheffield
Yeah.
Well, I think what you said, just going back a little bit, what you said about him switching from being entertainment into something he should not be dabbling in.
I think that that is also just kind of generally a broader cultural problem we have with, I mean, just our education system.
Because, you know, the university system and now the K-12, it's like, in their view, they're doing the rules for radicals.
So for them, you know, using this type of aggression or using language that is incitement, for them that is actually normalized.
And the culture is such that when a conservative doesn't even get remotely close to that, they can't handle it because everything, the default setting is to be so hard left because of our education system and culture and Hollywood and media.
So that, it's just a, it's all, it's like the soup.
It's like the crockpot.
It's, it's, that's what we, that's what we soak in.
sharyl attkisson
Carrie, you reminded me that a few years ago I thought it was a joke.
A lot of these things that I hear and I think is a joke and it becomes true.
One of them was there were college campus authorities as well as students who are saying that if you
say certain things to people it's akin to violence.
And there was actually a case where a teacher at a California college went to court and argued that these anti-abortion
signs that kids are holding up on campus were akin to violence against her.
She lost the case, but I thought the claim was sort of a joke.
So at the same time, some people on that side are claiming mere language or mere signs, you know, protected free speech and language is akin to violence.
By the same token, when that is committed by somebody on that side, it is then viewed quite differently.
tim pool
This is why I said I don't care.
Because I think, if you haven't realized by now, the asymmetrical cultural warfare that's been going on... I don't know what to tell you.
I'm just... I don't think I can keep saying it every time something like this happens.
Like, there's a double standard!
What's happening?
It's like... That was...
Three and a half years ago, I was talking about, you know, the double standard we're saying now.
carrie sheffield
I mean, I think it was far more pronounced in the 60s, basically.
That's when I think the root of a lot of this started.
tim pool
So I mean, it goes back all the way.
You can trace the conflict today all the way back.
I mean, literally.
carrie sheffield
But in terms of like the erosion of norms of just how things that happen in the 60s in terms of normalizing the breakdown of the family, normalizing the the hatred of men and, you know, toxic masculinity and weaponizing race like that.
That really, I think, had the genesis most powerfully in the 60s.
tim pool
And now here we are.
One of the common themes we see with a lot of these mass shootings is fatherlessness.
carrie sheffield
Yep.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Families broken.
sharyl attkisson
One thing you don't hear, and some years ago I tried to look into this, didn't get very far, but it used to be as soon as there was a mass shooting, there was a rational discussion or a reasonable question that was asked as to what medicine the kids were on because some of these antidepressants and antipsychotic medicines can exacerbate the feelings of violence in some.
So some are apparently helped.
Sometimes, as it says on the warning label, people become more suicidal and more violent.
All of a sudden, I would say around the 2005 time period, coinciding with the pharmaceutical industry getting greater control, in my view, over the media and practically everything else, that question's no longer asked.
And it used to be, again, that's the natural thing you would ask.
Not that that's the only thing to blame, but you certainly want to know.
It's not even asked by the media now.
Like, people don't say, was the kid being treated?
And what medicine was he on?
Just like, that's not a question anymore.
carrie sheffield
Yeah, or did he have a father in the home?
sharyl attkisson
Well, that too, but I would bet money that these things are, you know, I would bet money that, I'd be willing to bet money the kid has been on medication.
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
And I want to say one thing before we move on because I sense that we're about to.
For Hilah to sit there while Ethan says this and just go, I view that as a failure of being a wife.
You should call your husband on his BS right there, right then, especially if he has a
huge show that he's trying to make a difference to people, which I assume Ethan is trying
to do.
But I just wanted to point that out because I see that as a cultural failing because it
seems like women no longer recognize that they are supposed to be the check to their
man and be like, you know what, maybe you shouldn't act that way.
tim pool
I don't think Ethan is trying to do anything.
I don't think he knows anything.
carrie sheffield
How gendered of you.
lydia smith
I know.
Terrible.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
When Stephen Crowder wanted to have a conversation with Ethan Klein, Ethan brought in Sam Seder instead, ambushing Crowder, who was like, OK, whatever, fine, bye.
Ethan Klein says he doesn't know anything about politics.
His words.
He's correct.
But there's something that's fascinating that's happened as politics has become pop culture.
I think the establishment class, the Uniparty, the Democrats, Pelosi type, they were so desperate to defeat Donald Trump they did everything in their power to make politics pop culture and now they will regret it.
You do not want people who have no idea what they're talking about to be violently angry over these things.
It's like all that energy you see when there's a baseball game lost or won, people riot throughout the city or whatever.
Turn that into a political issue.
Nah, you don't want that.
When I was younger, I used to say I wish people cared more about politics.
And then I started to understand the average person has no interest in actually understanding it.
They just want to fit in.
And then I'm like, okay, I want the people who care about this stuff and want to help make the world a better place care about it.
I do wish everybody really did care about it in the sense that they would read and understand it.
What we got now is people like Ethan Klein, who has no idea what he's talking about, calls for gun control and violence against people who have guns, and it's kind of like you're advocating for guns?
You're giving people the reason to need them, but he doesn't care.
I don't, I, you know, when I think about this idea of the grifter in the political space, they say, like, so-and-so is a grifter or whatever.
It's like, let me, let me tell you, if someone is, is career-wise, like, their whole life was politics, journalism, and news, and they talk about those issues, I probably wouldn't call him a grifter unless they did specific things, like Ethan Klein being a comedy podcast jumping into politics.
I'm like, yo, that is definition grifting.
He was like, hey, this edgy comedy is no longer good.
What do I do?
Let's start a podcast.
He interviews Jordan Peterson.
Well, Jordan Peterson was getting popular.
Then, uh-oh, it's not popular with the left.
So he takes the episodes down and says, oh, I shouldn't have interviewed Jordan Peterson.
He's just doing whatever he has to do to maintain a product for people.
seamus coughlin
There you go.
You know, that kind of thinking, that kind of behavior, it's a problem of just the total value of virtue, a breakdown of the family, but also, I don't know his specific case, but you look at the way the media sort of instructs people to behave, and you also look at the way the educational system here, and I have no idea where he was educated, but speaking more broadly about our culture as a whole, I believe it was Thomas Sowell who made the observation that kids in school are taught it's very important to care about making a difference, They're not really taught that it's very important to know all that much about the thing you're trying to make a difference within.
And it's very interesting that that's sort of our cultural ethos.
I'm gonna make a difference.
Okay, well what kind of difference?
You know, just because you made something different doesn't mean you made it better.
If you didn't know what you were doing, you probably made it worse.
But people aren't encouraged to do any of the real work that it takes to become informed about something before commenting on it.
Or before, you know, trying to make some kind of differences.
How about learn math?
Exactly.
Hey, that's what kids in school should be doing.
But then, outside of that, when people go out into the world and they say they want to be an activist, I think there's a fantastic example of this in Matt Walsh's film, I haven't seen it yet, but even just in the preview, where he asks these women at a women's march, what is a woman?
And they can't give him an answer.
How can you be at the woman's march and not be able to give an answer to the question, what is a woman?
Can you imagine if you went to a gun rights march or something and asked, what is a gun?
And the person couldn't give you a definition?
tim pool
It's ludicrous.
I want to point something out.
I saw this in the Super Chat.
Storm Viking mentioned this.
Trump spoke at the NRA event.
Ethan Klein called for terror against an event that had the former president at it with Secret Service details.
I mean, it's crazy this is the state we're in.
sharyl attkisson
It's okay, because it was against Trump.
tim pool
But I'm gonna say those- I'm gonna- So, guys, get ready to drink.
I'm gonna say those two magic words.
Civil War.
Here's what I see.
I think most people who've watched the show have probably heard me make this point, but again, some people are like, I've heard this before, Tim.
Not everybody's heard it.
Boomers are mostly unified in their politics.
There's little division among boomers.
They do have their wedge issues.
Gen Xers are similar.
But millennials are so divided that you can have someone like Ethan Klein call for an act of terror.
Like, how does that even happen?
Like, I can't imagine growing up someone accidentally calling for a terror attack against a former, an event with the former president speaking at.
I mean, that sounds absurd to me.
But we're at the point now where, let's just say, he got too passionate, that's what he said, and it slipped out.
What's the next generation going to be like?
If Ethan has no reason to try to apologize for this, and he basically didn't.
He just said, I got a little passionate, and then he said, Republicans are the party of dead children, further inflaming tribal tensions.
Instead of just saying, yeah, I should not have said that.
I'm so sorry, guys.
We got to tone things down.
No, he actually escalated the rhetoric against Republicans.
If that's the direction things are going, you take a look at how the parallel economies have emerged.
There's something that I warned about several years ago.
In 2018, I said, if we keep seeing censorship, I talked about this with Jack Dorsey, you will force people to create a parallel economy if they are to function.
Banning people and taking away their livelihood will not stop them from living.
It will force them to find alternate means of trade.
Eventually, you will see a larger and larger parallel economy separate from yours.
Once that happens, people will have no reason whatsoever to accommodate the other.
Ethan Klein is a perfect example.
He can call for this, and the only reason, in my opinion, he walked it back is because he knew YouTube would strike at his income.
But as now, we have seen Twitter and many other platforms be totally lax and not enforce the rules.
We're lucky they did in this instance.
I don't remember.
All of them, yeah.
Was it Twitch?
Actually, what was it, Facebook allowed people to call for violence against Russians.
There was, what platform had the policy where you were allowed to rag on white people?
Which one was that one?
unidentified
I don't remember.
tim pool
All of them, yeah.
lydia smith
Oh, was it Twitch?
I don't know.
tim pool
One of them said you can't insult historically marginalized groups, but you can, you know,
against historically oppressive groups or whatever, which is basically like you can
rag on white people.
carrie sheffield
When you get to the point where... That's very monolithic.
There are many white people who are oppressed, like Irish.
Well, for sure.
Yeah.
Who cares?
tim pool
Yeah.
Slavic people are considered people of color by the Coalition of Communities of Color.
The point is, though, when you get to a point where a platform says, it's okay to target this group of people, but not this one, Because they don't care to lose.
We're not gonna make any money from that group anyway, and we don't want to lose money if we ban these people.
You're gonna get people being raised in two different ecosystems, two different economies.
One kid's gonna grow up and be like, those people are crazy bad people.
That's what my parents said, and it's true.
And then, within a generation or two, people fight.
sharyl attkisson
We have that.
We've all probably talked to young people, maybe not so young people, where something that's all the rage and discussion on one side of the spectrum, they haven't even heard anything about.
You don't even know about that video, or you don't even know about something that is so big on the other, maybe parallel.
carrie sheffield
I feel like, though, that it's more on the other direction.
Like, I feel like, like when Trump won, like, like just the conservative ecosystem, like I was at an event with Jack Dorsey.
He did not know who William F. Buckley was, you know, a billionaire founder.
It's like how like the familiarity with like the intellectual underpinnings of conservatism, they would have no clue.
But I think most of us here at the table are just people watching the show.
I could very well, you know, explain who the leftist, you know, leaders and publications and so that level of ignorance, I think it's very self-secluding by the left.
So I think that's part of why they had such a rude awakening with Trump.
tim pool
Yeah, it shattered their worldviews.
They were told by the media it couldn't happen.
They said Hillary Clinton had a 99% chance of winning, and then the media was wrong.
So what do you do when your world shatters like that?
Yeah, you lose your mind.
Let's jump to this next story.
We'll start talking about families.
We have this from the Post Millennial.
Paramount Plus sponsors drag event where a child dances on stage for money.
Ladies and gentlemen, just pull up the Wikipedia entry for stripper.
And I can't do it here because it does have nude women in the Wikipedia, but what you need to understand is that stripping does not mean being nude.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Some strippers can't take their clothes off, but they're still considered strippers.
They call them bikini bars.
The Wikipedia entry actually shows, it says bikini and go-go dancing, and it says the women have to be fully clothed, they have to cover their tops and bottoms, They dance on stage and people give them money.
At this event, it was a RuPaul's DragCon.
They had two children on stage.
And this little boy was jumping and dancing around and taking money from people.
This is grooming.
This kid, what they do is, they put this kid in an environment and they say it's innocent.
There's nothing sexual about it.
The kid then gets, they normalize the behavior of dancing on stage for money from the audience.
The way grooming would work, I'm not saying they will do to this kid, but the way it would work is that after you do this, When the kid gets a little older, you then say, hey, it's going to be a swimsuit show.
Take your shirt off.
Then they give you money.
Then, oh, we're going to do another swimsuit thing, but this one you have to wear these special swimsuits.
And then they give them Speedos or something.
That's how grooming works.
It works on adults.
There are people who are groomed into being sex workers through this.
This is not the most egregious thing we've seen.
There was Desmond is Amazing who quite literally removed clothing on stage and then took money from people at a bar full of adults.
They're grooming your kids.
Paramount is sponsoring this.
Discovery Plus is a child drag event.
This is a reality.
seamus coughlin
It's almost like there's a lot of pedophiles in media or something like that.
lydia smith
That's weird.
tim pool
Well, they normalize it one step at a time.
And so, here's the goal.
They want you to look at this and say, well, it's just people dancing.
You know, is it really that... That's what they'll say to you.
They'll say, it's just dancing.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
They have to.
seamus coughlin
It's a drag show.
It's a bunch of pervy dudes dressing up and trying to act like they're female dancers.
That's not innocent.
tim pool
So what they'll do is they'll say, it's just like a costume show.
What are you so mad about?
Why are you so obsessed with this?
I wonder why you care so much, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, that's the thing, right?
Like, let's expose children to this because we care so much that it has to be forced onto young ones, and then when you point out that there's something wrong with that, you're the one putting inordinate attention on it.
tim pool
So, the family's been destroyed.
There's, uh, you know, when I was covering this in my TimCast channel segment, there was a photo of Drag Queen Story Hour where there's these liberal parents smiling and laughing as they put their kids in front of this.
They're into it.
They like it.
sharyl attkisson
I think it says something about where the parents are coming from, of course.
And I hope this was a parody account, but it reminds me of on Twitter a couple of years ago, there was a woman, didn't say it was a parody account, who was complaining at being attacked because she had in her bio that she was transgendering her twin toddlers.
I didn't even know what that meant.
I had to think about it.
carrie sheffield
I think it's a big reason why in Virginia, where I live, that's why we had Glenn Youngkin win.
I was a volunteer on his campaign and a lot of it had to do with the schools and what was being taught in schools and a lot of this gender ideology which Should not be taught in schools.
It should be something if you as a parent, you have the right to teach your children your values.
And Terry McAuliffe, the Democrat opponent, said no, that they shouldn't be telling teachers what to think.
So I think I mean, having worked on the campaign, I was there on election night.
It gave me a lot of hope that there are a lot of parents who are pushing back on this.
So.
tim pool
Homeschool your kids.
There's no question about it at this point.
Homeschool your kids.
carrie sheffield
Yeah, or private Christian schools.
seamus coughlin
Even then, you really have to vet it.
carrie sheffield
That's true, too.
seamus coughlin
You really have to vet it.
sharyl attkisson
The Christian schools have some of the same accreditation facilities that require them to do the things you'd be surprised that the public schools have to do.
But there is a trend, as you guys know, and I did a story on this in full measure recently, Not just homeschooling, but there's pods now, there's groups, there's organizations in the neighborhood where they're getting actual more formal group education just outside the public school system.
That parallel economy is forming.
People are just deciding they don't agree with it, and if you keep going too radical in the school system, a parallel system is going to develop.
I think we're there with the schools.
seamus coughlin
It's interesting because with the entire public school structure, which, you know, has been imitated by a lot of these private schools as well, the way the system has been set up, we take it for granted.
But it really is very bizarre that the status quo is such that parents send their children To go off with complete strangers for basically the entire day for basically their entire childhood.
That is very strange.
sharyl attkisson
And to learn not just stuff we consider traditional education but all of their social values and their moral values and all the extra stuff that as a parent you kind of want to do yourself usually.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well I think unfortunately a lot of parents don't.
I think unfortunately a lot of parents don't want to do it themselves.
It's very sad, but I think it happens a lot.
They don't want to have uncomfortable conversations.
There are people who will even say, sex ed needs to be taught in schools.
Why?
Well, because I don't want to have that conversation with my kid.
What's wrong with you?
You want a stranger to?
tim pool
They were raised in that system is what's wrong with them.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's also true.
That's fair.
That's a fair point.
tim pool
Yeah, well who was it who was talking about how kids who grew up on a farm knew about the birds and the bees?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I've mentioned that before.
Well, when I was in high school, another student literally asked me the question, how did people learn about sex before sex ed?
I'm not kidding.
I was like, well, because people were A, more closely connected to nature, B, people figure out how to do that on their own.
The reason you have sex education, the reason adults need to talk to young people about that kind of thing is to tell them what not to do.
That's the whole point.
You're getting older, and X, Y, and Z, and you should know that, yes, you should be married to someone before you do X, Y, and Z. This makes children.
tim pool
Well, Seamus, I think you've got to be fair to these people.
You see, before the advent of sex ed, humans had no idea how to reproduce.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
sharyl attkisson
Didn't know what was causing this thing.
seamus coughlin
We were very lucky.
tim pool
We were very much like panda bears.
carrie sheffield
Yeah, we were.
lydia smith
Not smart.
tim pool
Until aliens came.
and taught us about reproduction.
And then we wrote it down in books and now we have to teach kids.
Otherwise, who knows what'll happen.
carrie sheffield
Well, the other thing was that we didn't know that men could get pregnant.
sharyl attkisson
Right, that's true.
carrie sheffield
And that's something that we're only just now learning.
But I do have to do a plug for the bill that we talked about a little bit earlier.
And if you all watching can go to womensbillofrights.com.
We are pushing back on this at the federal level and also at the state level, so we just introduced a week and a half ago a bill, the Women's Bill of Rights, and it says it's a resolution to codify that a woman is a woman and we define what a woman is through biological sex, that she has a uterus, that she has female reproductive organs, It's really pathetic that we have to spell this out, but we're doing it.
And so we've had several members of Congress, including a Democrat, Katie Porter from Pennsylvania.
So kudos to her.
We're working also with the Women's Liberation Front, which is a hard left feminist group.
And as a conservative group, we want to work with women who want to protect women's rights.
And then we're also going to be moving it for the next phase to the state level as well.
So you can contact your local legislature and say, we want this and I want it in my state too.
We're doing it at the federal level and the state level.
tim pool
So how do you define a woman?
carrie sheffield
Well, on the website, we have it here.
I can read it.
For purposes of state federal law, a person's sex is defined as his or her biological sex, either male or female, at birth.
For purposes of state federal law... Stop!
A female is an individual whose biological reproductive system is developed to produce ova.
A male is an individual whose biological reproductive system is developed to fertilize the ova of a female.
For purpose of a state federal law, woman and girl refer to human females and the term man and boy refer to human males.
lydia smith
So simple.
unidentified
Well, there you go.
tim pool
I actually think it's a little complicated, you know?
Because when you were mentioning, you know, uterus and ovum and all that stuff, I'm like... You could build one of those.
You could take an animal's uterus and put it in a... The argument that they make is, what about a woman who's had a hysterectomy?
Now she's not a woman anymore, and it's like... Very bad argument.
Yeah.
But it works on weak-minded people.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why it's like adult human female and adult human male.
And they're like, well, what's a male or what's a female?
Oh, you want to read the biology of it all.
carrie sheffield
Okay, now we... XXXY.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
But even that goes so much deeper, right?
Because it's not as if we discovered the XX and XY chromosomes and went, oh my gosh, there's two categories of people that we now know about.
It's obvious from the get-go.
It's insane that we have to explain it to people now.
tim pool
I don't know if you made this point last week.
It was a really good point.
Humans didn't discover the X and Y chromosome until recently, but humans always knew there were two kinds of people.
sharyl attkisson
It wasn't created as a social construct for the purpose of, you know, oppressing people.
This is something I assume since the beginning of time, although I wasn't there, that has been recognized and accepted, you know, without being controversial until really relatively recently.
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised if we already are starting to see the argument where they say that the X and Y chromosomes aren't real and that they were created to reinforce the patriarchal gender binary.
seamus coughlin
They will literally say anything.
carrie sheffield
That's right, because science is sexist.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
I say it was a bunch of white men.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Who needed a legal way to, you know, uh, what was it called?
Phrenology?
lydia smith
Yeah, with the head measuring.
tim pool
Yeah, they would measure the heads.
Yeah.
And like, they wanted to justify racist ideas.
So, uh, chromosomes, not a real thing as it turns out.
seamus coughlin
Well, and this is because they do not use language the way human beings are supposed to use language.
They're not trying to communicate any kind of truth, right?
So when they talk about what a woman is, what insurrection is, what terrorism is, what violence is, they get it wrong constantly, right?
They call men women.
They call statements of fact about what a person's biology is violence.
They don't call it terrorism to tell someone that they should bomb a public event that the former president of the United States is going to be at.
Oh no, it was a joke.
Well, he did get really passionate and he walked it back.
So I guess we're fine with it.
But they literally use it to try to signal what they want.
It's very sad and it's unbecoming.
It's degrading.
It's not how humans are supposed to use language.
That's actually kind of the way that like dogs use language.
When you tell your dog, sit, give me paw, he doesn't understand those words.
He knows he'll get a treat.
And that's what we have actual grown adult human beings walking around doing.
Using words and only understanding them in the context that gives Exactly.
My dog does.
You have a Collie, right?
instead of the truth that's actually supposed to lie beneath the phrasing.
tim pool
So let's let's let's dissect that a little bit. What you're saying is
the dog basically hears, Rumpel, and then when he knows to respond to that sound
he'll get a treat, but he doesn't understand the concepts or ideas behind
what it means.
unidentified
Exactly. My dog does. Yeah sure. Well yours is special.
seamus coughlin
Your dog is very special.
unidentified
You have a Collie, right? The Collie's the smartest breed, I think? There you go, yep.
tim pool
I don't know if I agree with the dog analogy thing.
I think it's fair to say, you don't, you don't need to use it.
You can just say there are people who don't understand what they're saying.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
They just know that they can say certain words and they'll be rewarded.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's my point.
tim pool
Case in point, we had a progressive on the show who said, conservatives are saying trans people don't exist.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And I said, what does that mean?
And he was like, huh?
I'm like, what does that mean?
Like Ben Shapiro knows Blair White.
He knows she exists.
What does that mean?
They don't think trans people exist.
I'm like, OK, you're not telling me anything.
And that's your point.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
It's a specific phrase to get their point across, to get what they want from you, to shame you, instead of communicating an actual idea.
sharyl attkisson
That's like transphobic, as we've talked about.
tim pool
May as well be a grunt.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
sharyl attkisson
People called transphobic, often what the person calling them that means is you don't like the idea of trans people, but they're not afraid of trans people.
They are not transphobic.
I'm not sure how that word has become just accepted into the lexicon.
tim pool
Well, same thing as homophobic and all that.
You're scared of gay people.
seamus coughlin
Not really.
You made this point that it could just be a grunt.
It's true that any word could be a grunt.
We make noises, and those noises are understood to have certain meanings.
But what a human is supposed to be able to do is abstract with those noises, understand what they mean, use them honestly.
My point with the dog analogy is whenever humans fail to live up to their rational potential, they behave animalistically.
tim pool
You know, I think words Are oppressive.
English is a colonial language, and if we want to truly speak in a way that is representative of all human cultures... Clicks and whistles.
Grunts!
carrie sheffield
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's honest, and to be fair, when women aren't around, that is how men talk.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's true.
unidentified
We don't... I'm sorry for letting it get out of the bag there.
tim pool
Yeah, if you watch the Seamus Freedom Tunes members only, you know, I'll read the line as Dr. Fauci, like, you have to wear your mask!
And then I'll look up at Seamus and go, whoa!
carrie sheffield
I have the antidote to your word question and it's called the Woke-tionary.
So we made this product with the Independent Women's Network.
So you go to iwnetwork.com.
I'll give you this after the show.
You're welcome to have it.
It defines all these terms like white adjacent, systemic racism, triggered, restorative justice, implicit bias.
It's all here.
We spell it out.
The real English.
We give the real definition.
sharyl attkisson
Well, to your point, I've asked people in my orbit, because I had to look this up.
Everybody starting years ago started saying equity, equity, equity instead of equality.
I'm like, but no one explained that.
When journalists adopt these phrases of advocacy, I think they better know what they're, I think they probably shouldn't usually, because more thought should go into it.
You can quote somebody, but you shouldn't be adopting it.
And I looked up equity, and it's, as you guys probably know, but I think a lot of ordinary folks, we don't.
Totally different than equality.
And if you ask young people using that phrase, and it's just ubiquitous today, most people can't define equity versus equality.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Because they don't need to.
You say the word, you get the treat.
carrie sheffield
Well, it's equal outcomes versus equal opportunity.
Equity is socialism.
Equality is equality of opportunity.
tim pool
Meritocracy.
carrie sheffield
Exactly.
tim pool
They do not like meritocracy at all.
carrie sheffield
No, that's racist.
sharyl attkisson
Equity to me is the notion of you predefine people based on your understanding without knowing somebody of what their skill set is or what their abilities are and you tell them based on something like skin color that they can't do something as well as everybody else and they need help.
I mean, that's how I describe equity, where there are other people who don't.
tim pool
To me, it's almost the opposite of what the goal is, because you're labeling a certain group of people based on nothing but... Well, if you look at the arguments they make, it's one group has privileges, and so they should be held back.
Other groups have disadvantages, so they should be pushed forward.
So equity is hobble those who are successful.
It's cut off the tall grass.
It's typical communist ideology.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
sharyl attkisson
But as a kid in America who in my generation we were all told whatever color we wore this was our thing as you can be anything and that's what we thought.
I hear women today talking about You know, I want my daughter to know that, you know, women could even be doctors.
I'm like, we knew that in the 1960s.
Duh.
Who told you in 1990 or 2000 that that wasn't possible?
Because we've been through all this.
unidentified
That's the weirdest thing.
seamus coughlin
I really don't think they think of it.
They're living in an insane fantasy land.
They have a persecution complex.
Everything's the Handmaid's Tale, right?
tim pool
There was some comment that someone posted where this little black girl is in school and she's asked what she wants to be when she grows up or something.
She says, I want to be an astronaut.
The teacher goes, that's great.
And she goes, what?
And the teachers are like, that's fantastic.
And the girl says, no, you're supposed to tell me I can't do it because I'm a woman.
And she was like, but you can do it.
It doesn't matter.
And then she was like, you know, this famous astronaut that I'm a big fan of was told she couldn't do it.
So she, you know, fought against it and rose to be the best.
And she was like, yes.
And because of her, you now can do it.
No one's holding you back.
And then it just shows like the panel, the girl like shocked and confused.
But it's fascinating because I've experienced this.
That in the modern era, these activists actually tell people you can't succeed.
sharyl attkisson
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
Because of your race.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So don't try.
It's their fault.
sharyl attkisson
Have a nice day.
But to kids who it wouldn't have occurred to them because that wasn't the case and they're suddenly identified at a fairly early age now and told that you are different and you can't do things, you know, that Yeah, that's what our Winsome Sears, our lieutenant governor in Virginia, who was Yunkin's running mate, she said, that's what CRT does.
carrie sheffield
It makes the light in the child's eyes, you know, if you tell, you know, and she's black herself, and she said, if you tell black children you can't succeed, you're inherently flawed, why would we even think they would try?
Of course they're gonna fall, you know, into gangs and drugs because we keep telling them that they're victims and that they're hopeless.
tim pool
Well, you said it before, but is it surprising to anybody that the group of people advocating for less population are favoring policies that result in destroyed families, destroyed economies, sterilization of children, and outright abortion of children?
sharyl attkisson
The Planned Parenthood thing, I thought, was a conspiracy theory for years, you know, and now they're having to grapple with it.
tim pool
Which one?
seamus coughlin
Which part of it?
sharyl attkisson
By the way, I'm a very late comer to politics, so I'm one of the people you guys are talking about sometimes.
carrie sheffield
But you were a journalist.
sharyl attkisson
Margaret Sanger, you know, was part of wanting to apparently shape and annihilate the black population, and now Planned Parenthood is having to grapple with that, and on their website they address this.
You know, the fact that that was the case, and how they feel about that now, and you know, it's a very tough thing for them.
carrie sheffield
Oh, I read, it was a fact check, I think it was, ah, which one, one of those fact checkers, maybe it was the Washington Post fact checker.
seamus coughlin
Yes, we were just talking, I was just going to bring that up.
carrie sheffield
It was insane about the KKK rally, because someone said, oh, Margaret Singer spoke at KKK rallies.
And so they did a fact check about whether that was true.
And they said, no, actually, she only spoke at one event, one KKK event, and it was a women's KKK event.
unidentified
Oh, that's good.
carrie sheffield
It was like the women who are attached to the men in the KKK, so it was like a women's KKK event.
And she had a pure intention for going there.
unidentified
Okay.
carrie sheffield
She was just trying to spread her message of birth control to whoever would listen.
So they literally said it was okay that she went to a KKK event because she was trying
to teach about birth control to everybody, no matter who would listen.
So she, and I was just like, do you hear what you're saying?
This is insane.
tim pool
I gotta address, you know, Michael Malice, who's a big friend of the show and a good friend of mine.
He's argued this is not true about Margaret Sanger.
And, you know, I recently was talking to him and he was like, no, no, no, this is not true.
She was advocating for birth control.
She was trying to end poverty by telling these women.
And I'm just like, I hear your argument, dude, but I pulled up plannedparenthood.org that outright calls her racist.
carrie sheffield
She's a eugenicist.
seamus coughlin
She was a eugenicist.
tim pool
Planned Parenthood calls her racist.
I suppose, you know, I think Michael's a very smart guy and I respect him a whole lot, but I don't understand how his point can be correct that she wasn't.
Maybe I got something wrong in what he was saying.
But they actually say she believed in an inherently racist and ableist ideology that labels certain people as unfit to have children.
She believed in eugenics.
We denounce her beliefs in eugenics.
She was going to the black community specifically, telling them to stop having kids.
Sounds like she was racist, you know?
I don't know, whatever.
Everybody was racist back then to varying degrees, right?
carrie sheffield
They were racist against Irish people, right?
And what's so bizarre is that there's such a total disconnect between that fact and then the outcome of the disparity of the proportion of black children who are then killed.
You know, I think the ratio is like four or five, uh, you know, five to one black to white babies, but, but yeah, black people are a much smaller percentage of the population.
So her vision has been realized.
Like she got what she was dreaming for.
And that's what's disgusting.
It's like playing hard.
It doesn't acknowledge this.
tim pool
I was watching a video from, it was actually some critical race theorist guy who pointed this out.
It was like a black identitarian guy saying, Margaret Sanger was racist, Planned Parenthood says she's racist, and they were explaining how if the black population wasn't getting aborted at the rate they were, they would be a substantially larger portion of the U.S.
population by now.
But you imagine, it's like five to one.
carrie sheffield
Oh yeah, they were the second largest minority group ahead of Latinos, but because of abortion, black people are more likely to abort than Latinos.
Now Latinos have surpassed black Americans as the second biggest group.
tim pool
What was that?
Was that the conspiracy theory you're talking about?
Or are you talking about selling baby parts or something?
lydia smith
Well, that too.
sharyl attkisson
I found out about Margaret Sanger because an African-American girlfriend of my brother's some years ago referred to it.
And it surprised me because I'd always just heard it in passing and didn't put any thought into that being possibly true.
But she said, oh, black people know this.
And so I looked it up.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, we had Daryl Davis on and he's gone relatively woke.
He used to talk to members of the KKK and talk them out of that ideology.
And he said that his mother knew even then, like a long time ago, she knew that they were like trying to use black people to, for example, we all know about, you know, the Tuskegee experiments and stuff like that.
He said that they understood that Planned Parenthood was kind of a little bit of an extension of that.
I'm paraphrasing him.
I don't mean to misquote him, but my understanding was that they knew that that's what Planned Parenthood was going for, which was like really eye-opening for me.
I was like, they knew.
It was very much common knowledge, and it was just one of those things.
They just accepted it.
carrie sheffield
No, but not only do they accept it, they promote it.
Like they say, you know, these white supremacists who are pro-life, they want to hold back black women.
You know, so it's a moral good for black women to want to abort their children.
And good on Senator Tim Scott because he called out Janet Yellen.
You know, Janet Yellen said, you know, if we had, you know, fewer abortions in the past, then that we would have had a much smaller GDP growth.
So I just want to issue a clarification.
you know, as the as the, you know, black son of a single mother.
I am so glad that she did not share your view, basically.
tim pool
So I just want to issue a clarification.
According to Planned Parenthood, they're not selling tissue.
lydia smith
They're donating it. Oh, that's nice.
unidentified
I also ask people to look up, because you can find not the story, but the press announcement.
carrie sheffield
for money. But didn't Project Veritas do videos about this?
lydia smith
I can't remember if it was Veritas.
sharyl attkisson
I also ask people to look up, because you can find not the story but the press announcement.
ABC a couple of years ago with one of my former producers, Kim Skeen, and Chris Wallace, who
worked at ABC at the time, because Kim turned me on to this, back when you could cover normal
stories that people cared about in a normal way as a journalist without getting cancelled,
they did a story on the sale of body parts, fetal body parts, and the market among the
pharmaceutical industry and others for clinical study and all kinds of things.
And again, that story is nowhere to be found on the Internet, but if you Google or DuckDuckGo, your choice, whatever, I mean, ABC's 2022 air report on fetal tissue trafficking, March 1st, 2000.
Read about how much they were paying for, I think, a brain.
lydia smith
There was literally a quote from one of the directors of Planned Parenthood saying she wanted to buy a new car.
Unbelievable.
So I don't care if they say they're going, I do not believe it.
sharyl attkisson
Today it's Project Veritas.
What I'm telling you is not long ago, ABC News and Chris Wallace were doing this kind of reporting when reporters were, you know, more open to doing neutral stories on important controversies.
seamus coughlin
So the organization, I don't believe it was a man I'm blanking on named Veritas.
It was the Center for Medical Progress.
And what they did is after they filmed these employees of Planned Parenthood and representatives haggling over the price of fetal tissue, they edited it, yes, but they placed the full unedited footage on the internet for anyone to watch if they wanted to.
sharyl attkisson
And they got in trouble, right?
Everything on the news is edited at some point if it's not just a full, raw, hour-long tape.
seamus coughlin
Well, and the reason, if I understand properly, that David Daleiden actually got in trouble was just because of two-party consent laws with respect to filming people.
It wasn't because he edited anything deceptively or dishonestly.
sharyl attkisson
Right.
I'm just saying, that was an argument that used to not be an argument, and I saw that raised when I was doing, at CBS, not about me, but when people wanted to make controversies, all of a sudden Opposing people politically would say, that tape was edited.
I'm like, yeah, all of our tapes are edited.
seamus coughlin
Everything!
And people who are deceptively editing a tape do not place the entirety of the footage online for everyone to be able to watch it.
tim pool
So this was a big story in 2015.
Undercover video shows, Planned Parenthood official discussing fetal organs used for research.
They responded to it saying, it's tissue donation.
seamus coughlin
But in the video, so in the footage, the woman literally says, Whoever throws out a figure in a negotiation first loses.
You know, the thing you say when you're donating something to somebody.
Insanity.
But what does donation mean, right?
They don't know what words mean or they don't use them properly.
sharyl attkisson
They are intentionally deceptive.
seamus coughlin
What does donation mean?
sharyl attkisson
You say you're paying for time and transportation of the stuff and to have it preserved so that there's all kinds of ways to say you're not paying for the tissue, but in fact... Seamus, I'm gonna donate this Woktionary to you.
seamus coughlin
Thank you so much.
tim pool
Hey, can you spot me 20 bucks?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of course, man.
Right on.
You gotta make a profit off your donations.
unidentified
That's right, yeah.
Oh, no, no.
tim pool
He didn't sign.
carrie sheffield
You gotta pay for the lights and the... You were sitting here.
sharyl attkisson
I sold him nothing.
Yeah, yeah.
seamus coughlin
He didn't sell me anything.
I just happened to be picking money.
sharyl attkisson
The effort you had to use to hand him the pamphlet.
carrie sheffield
By the way... Carpetunnel risk.
seamus coughlin
I really wish the Planned Parenthood Defense would catch on with the IRS.
Like, no, that was not... That wasn't work.
I didn't sell that.
That was not... I donated that.
But, I mean, I happened to make money, but it was different.
tim pool
Something tells me that the IRS isn't gonna be concerned about that.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Federal agencies are not going to go after the left in this way.
seamus coughlin
Ever.
unidentified
Ever.
tim pool
Look at what happened with Donald Trump and Russiagate.
One of the biggest con- I mean, now we're looking at the Sussman trial with what's going on.
Hillary Clinton knowing about and signing off on a lot of this stuff.
Some of the most shocking revelations we've heard in a long time.
Russiagate was staged.
It was fake.
It was a hoax.
Tricking the government.
Many elements of the government.
The FBI knew it was fake.
They went after it anyway.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
He was going to say, how many of them were really tricked?
tim pool
So we got a couple guys.
carrie sheffield
Which was part of his defense, actually.
The sussman, that was his defense.
Was like, well, they already knew.
So I wasn't actually, it was immaterial if I was lying.
sharyl attkisson
Well, in the FBI's defenses, we didn't know that they're such bad at their jobs
and they're supposed to be top federal agents that they don't even do due diligence
when a political operative brings them research on one of the most sensitive things they could do,
which is someone, an opposing political campaign.
My sources at FBI tell me they used to not go within a mile of an investigation like that.
It was so controversial.
Just to avoid any appearance of conflict.
They stayed away from journalists and political figures, at least the honest guys.
And now we're to believe that they didn't even do due diligence when they're handed opposition research.
carrie sheffield
Well, it was because he knew him personally.
Because sussman had worked formally at the FBI.
And fun fact, the guy who he met with, James Baker, was my former professor at Harvard Law School.
Actually a good person.
And he's the one who I think is at the center of the damning text messages that he's reported.
So good on him.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
Do we know if he lied or if he just got passionate in the moment and then walked it back?
carrie sheffield
It was a passionate text message.
sharyl attkisson
They're walking it back now, so it's okay.
It was a joke!
seamus coughlin
The whole thing!
sharyl attkisson
No harm, no foul.
seamus coughlin
Can't wait for them to apologize.
tim pool
Saying double standard.
At this point, it's like nails on a chalkboard, because like, yes, yes, we know, we know.
It's not, it's, you know, some 16-year-old is going to start watching the news and then go to his dad and be like, Dad, there's a double standard!
He's going to go, oh, son.
seamus coughlin
I remember when I thought that wasn't going to be the case.
Yeah, I think it's Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein always make this joke, like, oh, no, we're waiting for an apology on that.
It's going to come any day.
They're going to apologize about it any day.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
sharyl attkisson
Listen, Carter Page, last time I checked, the former Trump Campaign associate who was improperly spied upon with doctored evidence from the FBI, who, by the way, had never met or talked to or communicated with Donald Trump directly, but through a wiretap improperly done on Carter Page, Donald Trump's communications could be captured the way they allow themselves to capture all the communications of those in orbit around the one wiretap person.
To this day, as far as I know, he has not received so much as an apology.
In fact, his efforts at his own expense to try to get some Let's say equity in court over all that happened to him have just gone unanswered.
His case has been thrown out.
The FBI has not said so much as, you know, now that we've convicted the one lawyer, if nothing else, of doctoring a document in your case, we're sorry.
Nothing.
You know, just standing by.
carrie sheffield
Oh, and he only got probation.
He got like, I think like 400 hours of community service, although he should have spent a year in jail.
tim pool
Trump needs to win in 2024.
We had Kash Patel on the show and my attitude is just fire everybody.
Soon as Trump wins again, just get in there and just fire everyone.
Shebek, you're fired.
The line he's famous for, he's just...
carrie sheffield
Well, and the press strategy should be different, too.
So I was there working for John Solomon, who's hopefully going to come on with you guys soon, with just the news.
And that was the year in 2020 when we were launching, so it was the last year of the Trump presidency.
And it was so hard to get in the room credentialing, so I was covering the White House for him.
And because of the pandemic, the White House Correspondents Association was very dictatorial about, first of all, they're that way normally about who's allowed in the room.
But because of COVID, they severely constrained who was in the room.
So as a startup working for a guy who was, you know, reporting the truth, John Solomon, during pandemic, it was really hard to get in the room.
And I only got in the room because of Kayleigh McEnany allowed me in the room, myself and One American News.
And from One American News, Chanel Rion, their founder, She opened my eyes to what's happening in that press briefing room.
And our understanding is that if Trump comes back, he's going to change the strategy of what happens in that press briefing room.
Because right now, the WHA is a private nonprofit.
sharyl attkisson
That's the White House Correspondents Association.
carrie sheffield
Yes.
tim pool
So Alex Jones, press secretary.
carrie sheffield
Well, yeah, but as far as allowing... Yes!
tim pool
She said yes!
unidentified
That is not what I said!
carrie sheffield
No, no, no.
It was more the other way around.
As far as, like, who is in the room to ask the president a question?
Because right now the WHA is a liberal good old boys club that's been around for a hundred years that is dictating to the president who is allowed on government property and they don't allow conservatives in the room.
And if you're a conservative and you try to get a seat on the board for WHA, you can't.
So Chanel Rion from One American News started her own competing nonprofit, and the Trump White House was considering recognizing that and getting more equal representation in the room.
Because if you see the questions that they were asking Trump, they were not fair questions.
unidentified
Right.
carrie sheffield
Like, my first question that I asked Trump when I was in the White House press briefing room was, I asked him a question about what was happening with Hong Kong.
And it was, you know, Jimmy Lai had just been arrested.
So I'm asking about China and Hong Kong.
Chanel asked a question about Iran policy in the Middle East.
And then I think it was somebody from NBC asked a question about QAnon.
So it's like the supposed conspiracy right-wing journalists are asking substantive policy questions,
and then you have these other White House Correspondents Association establishment types.
They're there to make Trump look bad.
And he was egged on because he thought that it would win him points,
and it won points with the base, but I think it turned off the suburban women,
the more middle of the road people.
And so from what I understand, that would be one thing that he would change substantially.
And I think it's good.
tim pool
I made a couple of posts on Instagram called the CNN challenge.
And it was, I mean, there's no real challenge.
It was turn on Fox News, and then whatever the news is, switch to CNN, and they'll be talking about Trump.
So I used to.
So, I used to have CNN playing in the background all the time.
Because, you know, my mentality was when news breaks, they'll report it really, really quickly.
And then one day, I was just sitting and, you know, I was, like, recording something, and then I turned the volume back up.
And then I'm thinking, I'm watching, and I'm just like, have they been talking about Trump all day?
Like, there was, like, a storm or something happened.
I'm like, so I changed the channel, and it was like riots in Iran.
And then I was like, wow.
All right, so I'm on Fox News now.
I normally don't watch Fox News.
And then something else was happening.
I think it was a hurricane was coming.
And I turned on CNN, and they're like doing a roundtable about Donald Trump.
And then I was just like, this is crazy.
I switched to Fox News, and they're like, here's what you need to expect with the upcoming storm.
And I was like, I guess I'll leave Fox on.
sharyl attkisson
Listen, at CBS, when Fox News started, Les Moonves, who was head of CBS at the time, corporate, came into the Washington, D.C.
newsroom and convened us all around the conference table and said, is what's happening with Fox, this early popularity, is it real or is it something that just crazy people are watching?
And I was too young to speak up and finally understood that that's the wrong thing to do sometimes because I used to speak up too much in bad situations where I shouldn't.
I kept my mouth shut because I was fairly new.
Around the table every other journalist there said it's just a fake, stupid thing that's speaking to crazies.
Meantime, I had discovered what you had as a former CNN person.
I used to have CNN on in my, you know, office all day just to see if there was breaking news, and there used to be.
And when Fox came on, Fox had news before the other networks did and before CNN did often.
Sometimes a couple of days before, and then the others would follow it up.
So I started being sort of the contrarian that I am, putting Fox News on in my office.
And of course, that gets me pegged, I'm sure, around the newsroom instead of Gee, she's smart because we're all watching one thing, but we're all supposed to be kind of gathering, you know, breaking news.
And at least one person's watching another network and learning new things.
I'm sure I was pegged as sort of that crazy Fox watcher, but I saw the same thing you did, Tim.
tim pool
Yep.
And then I just stopped watching.
sharyl attkisson
Well, a lot of people stopped watching CNN.
tim pool
Well, now they're saying with the new ownership, they're going to purge all of that stuff out of CNN.
That's just the death knell.
sharyl attkisson
Also, this is my opinion, my thought, and I interviewed a lot of current and former CNNers for the last book that I wrote about all of this.
It's too endemic.
You can try.
It's sort of like Trump trying to get rid of the establishment bureaucracy that's the deep state, you might say.
unidentified
I think.
sharyl attkisson
You can try all you want, but they're really entrenched and strong.
And the news industry, whether it's – not that everybody feels the same way, but so
many people in the news industry and the way they're being brought up in journalism colleges,
I don't – I think that's a tough row to hoe at CNN.
unidentified
I think – Did I say row to hoe?
sharyl attkisson
Row to hoe.
unidentified
Row to hoe.
carrie sheffield
I think freedom – I'm triggered.
tim pool
Meritocracy and honesty are winning.
I'm Dr. Daniel Sinclair, and I'll see you next time.
I think you look at the collapse of the establishment press, you look at the expansion of gun rights, the narrative isn't working.
Their lies are not working.
A regular person will hear, we need background checks on abandoned assault weapons.
But now they can Google it.
And the ones who do go, hey, wait a minute, we already have background checks?
Oh, but it's a gun show loophole.
Really?
What's that?
Google?
Oh, there isn't one?
That's a lie.
It's a political term, not a real thing.
Oh, that's weird.
Well, what about assault weapons?
Assault weapons have no definition.
Wikipedia says assault weapon is ill-defined.
It typically refers to a pistol grip or forward accessories or maybe magazine size, but there's no real definition.
So when regular people are, they hear these things from Joe Biden.
Joe Biden, I gotta tell you, is red-pilling people like crazy.
unidentified
When he's like, a nine-millimeter's gonna blow a lung out of the body!
tim pool
You're gonna get some regular person who's gonna be like, whoa, really?
I was watching a movie.
They, that, what?
And they're gonna Google it and go, what?
That's not real.
What else isn't real?
If Joe Biden was wrong about that, what else was he wrong about?
sharyl attkisson
I think you're right.
When you overplay your hands, I think the organized campaign of propagandists to try to create this artificial reality, to make fringe things seem as though they are the norm, to make the majority of people think that they are in the minority, you know, this is what social media and the Internet's been all about, People get wise, and the truth takes a little longer to be told, but the truth usually survives.
It just takes more time.
And I think we're in that phase.
carrie sheffield
Part of it is, yes, the language.
Like, that's why we made the Woktionary, is because the language, it's new concepts, it's new things that people aren't as familiar.
And then once they understand it, they're like, they reject it.
The body rejects that organ transplant.
So a new one right now is the ESG.
You know, if you ask a random person on the street, what do you think about ESG?
No?
equity social governance for investing, you know, they're not gonna know what that means, but if you explain what it
means, which is let's use
capitalism and something that should be apolitical to bludgeon and push in a socialist leftist agenda
They're gonna say that's not okay It should be apolitical.
But they don't know the lingo yet.
But they're waking up.
And that's why you have people, you know, creating Strive Capital.
You know, the guy who wrote Woke Inc.
is starting.
tim pool
What you got to do is when you go to people, talk about how ESG is good.
ESG, you want to invest, and I'm not mean this literally, no financial advice.
You say, you really got to take a look at this ESG stuff.
The idea is simple.
Instead of merit, skill, determining whether or not a business succeeds, we are going to focus on political activism.
So like, if a company's gonna sell solar panels, instead of hiring engineers who have graduated with degrees, we're gonna hire activists.
That's gonna make you a good buck.
And then people are gonna be like, what?
How is my solar panel company going to make money if they're doing political activism and not selling solar panels?
It reminds me of Iron Man.
When, in the first one, he says, oh, Marvel reference, Tony Stark announces they're not doing weapons anymore, and then they have that scene of Jim Cramer saying, the stock!
And then he hits the mug with a baseball bat and says, This is a weapons company that doesn't sell weapons.
That's what ESG is.
You're investing.
I just got to say, I'm not going to tell anybody who to invest in.
My understanding is that the ESG companies did really, really poorly.
Like in terms of, you know, um, return.
seamus coughlin
That's a shock.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know, I'm just... If you want to invest in, you know, a meat processing plant that cares more about political activism than processing meat... Alright, I guess, you gotta... I was gonna say, I think that's one of the stupidest possible investments a single human being can make.
You might as well just literally donate the money to a charity.
At least then you can write it off.
seamus coughlin
Wait, hold on, you don't think that I should invest in the vegan-run meat processing plant?
tim pool
No, actually, I think it's a good idea.
Oh, if there is a vegan, vegan run meat processing.
Well, I should walk the back.
What I, what I mean to say is vegan meat plant.
I thought you were saying, I thought you were saying a plant that makes fake meat.
I'm like, that's a good idea.
seamus coughlin
Look, I mean, if that were possible, yes, absolutely invest in that.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to give you guys bad financial advice.
It wasn't financial advice as we like to say on the show.
carrie sheffield
Well, there's a real-time example that just happened, once you explain it to shareholders.
So Carl Icahn is this hedge fund billionaire, and he's obsessed with the treatment of pregnant pigs.
And he was trying to force McDonald's to change their practices to meet his standards, not the industry best practice standards.
He said it wasn't good enough.
And so he tried to force his people to be on the board of McDonald's.
But thank God McDonald's just rejected it.
The shareholders and they voted and they said, no, keep keep your activists off our board.
They have no clue what they're talking about with actual meat processing.
Not to mention, you know, low, low income people, a lot of people, average people shop at McDonald's.
This is going to make food more expensive for them.
So you have a hedge fund billionaire trying to make food way more expensive for average people.
And they rejected it.
tim pool
I just want to pull up this Forbes Advisor article.
It's not easy being green while ESG is underperforming.
Why is ESG underperforming in 2022?
I just want to say, if you think investing money into anti-meritocratic systems, you are a moron.
seamus coughlin
Also, because if these companies were profitable, you wouldn't have to invent something called ESG.
Companies would already be doing the thing that would make them money and make them more profitable as a business.
You wouldn't have to threaten them with a bad ESG score or incentivize them with a good one.
tim pool
Here's the pitch.
Seamus, we're taking on investors for my company.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
tim pool
What do we do?
We make pizzas.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
Beautiful.
Chicago style.
tim pool
Now, who's leading the team?
Black Lives Matter.
seamus coughlin
Of course.
tim pool
Now, do they have experience making pizza?
seamus coughlin
No.
No.
tim pool
But their hearts are in the right place.
unidentified
Equity.
seamus coughlin
Equity.
Look, I don't want my pizza made by someone whose heart isn't in the right place.
sharyl attkisson
I hope you have some women up there at the top.
Exactly.
I hope you have some.
unidentified
Well, hold on.
seamus coughlin
What do you mean by woman?
sharyl attkisson
Not hope.
carrie sheffield
Mandate.
sharyl attkisson
Someone who identifies as a woman is good enough for me.
tim pool
Yeah, it's three six-foot-five dudes, but they recently transitioned.
sharyl attkisson
I've been wondering why, this is kind of related, the trend we've probably all noticed in the past ten years, which are ads on TV for products and companies that aren't telling you about their product, they're telling you what they donate and what they do, and I started asking young people, because it doesn't appeal to me, I don't buy my products based on that, Apparently, young people do.
I was saying, do you care?
Do you care that this company is spending money advertising to you, or would you rather have advertising to you about the good that they do in some social realm or some position they take, or would you rather just have them sell you the best product at the lowest price?
tim pool
This is a good idea.
We should do a commercial for Tim Kast and have it not in any way tell anything about the show.
seamus coughlin
We were kind of talking about that last night.
unidentified
Let's do it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
We should.
Let's do an overly woke commercial for Tim Kast and we'll put it on Tucker.
seamus coughlin
One million percent.
tim pool
I keep saying that.
The problem is, like, we need managerial power to get these things done.
Like, we wanted to do the Chicken City one, and we were gonna do our pillow, and it's never happened.
That's why I don't like talking about things, unless we're, like, in the pipeline to do it.
But projects fall apart.
But, uh, let's do it.
sharyl attkisson
Did you see the Saturday Night Live skit about that?
About the woke commercials, and they were giving the awards for... I was shocked Saturday Night Live did this.
It's very funny.
The most woke commercials.
seamus coughlin
I'm shocked.
sharyl attkisson
Yes, you gotta look that up.
It's very funny.
seamus coughlin
About all the things that they do.
sharyl attkisson
That's the most shocking part.
Yes.
Find it.
seamus coughlin
I will, yeah.
I can't believe SNL did something funny, like that's insane.
tim pool
I don't believe it's funny.
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We're gonna read your superchats!
We got a bunch of superchats here talking about a bunch of crazy stuff, so get your superchats in while you still can.
Andre Tukalescu says, F. Castro Jr.
Heartfelt.
Every Canadian.
Oh man.
Srenik says, since they insist on putting every shooting that suits their agenda on national news, you should have your journalists start reporting on every story they can find of firearms being used to save lives.
That's a good idea, actually.
We should, you know, create like the list of self-defensive shooting stories.
seamus coughlin
I believe there is a list.
lydia smith
Yeah, there was one just down the road from us here in West Virginia a little while ago.
A lady took on a guy who was about to shoot up a graduation party, I think.
She took him out.
She was a concealed handgun carrier, or a handgun carrier.
I think.
I'm not sure if it's concealed or not, but yeah, it's great news.
No one covered it.
carrie sheffield
But don't you know that under the new law system that that guy, the psycho, wouldn't have had the gun, duh?
lydia smith
Exactly.
Right.
Criminals don't have the guns.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
They just won't have them.
Yeah.
No, they'll just all disappear.
I was looking up this list and my brain is just so tanked right now that I googled defensive self-defense.
I was like, wait, instead of, um, no gun self.
But I've seen, I saw a list a while ago.
It's kind of a hazy memory, but even so, I think it would be good for you guys to report on the individual stories, you know, have journalists reach out to the people, talk to them about it.
tim pool
I think there's people probably make running lists of that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked.
tim pool
All right.
Anthony Roman says, Hey Tim, I saw one of your billboards in Chicago on my way to the Cubs versus Sox game on Saturday.
Here is to keeping up the good work.
Awesome!
Glad to hear it.
I have no idea what's having an impact because it's traditional, but the idea with traditional ads is just to occupy the establishment spaces.
There's something interesting about millennials.
They put Gen Xers and Boomers on pedestals.
They view these traditional elements of civilization as beyond them.
It's a weird thing.
I wonder why that is.
You know, why is it that people get prominent on YouTube and then view themselves as not making it?
Like, if you go to these events, I've been to a lot of these, there's constantly a conversation about how, we are taking over!
Like, we are big!
It's like, you're saying it as though you don't really think you are.
And so you get these people who have millions of followers, you get hundreds of thousands of views, and they're constantly trying to justify to everybody that they actually are big shows, and I'm like, you just keep doing your thing, man.
But I think about it in terms of politics.
Why Nancy Pelosi is still an off, like, still 80 years old, Dianne Feinstein, all these, Joe Biden.
For some reason, few millennials are engaging at the highest level of the stuff.
They don't own stuff.
They have a disproportionately low amount of wealth relative to previous generations at their same age.
They're not engaging in high-level politics the way the previous generations were.
They're just stunted, I suppose.
sharyl attkisson
They're spending all their time, I just think, all the stuff there is to do online.
I mean, you guys, maybe you're too young to remember a time that wasn't like that.
I wonder about how much effort goes into internal stuff online that used to go into inventing things and creating things and thinking about new things, you know?
carrie sheffield
Starting a family.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
Mark H says, Ian, if you hear this knock twice, we want to help you.
What was that?
seamus coughlin
Stop it!
lydia smith
Get out of there, Ian.
tim pool
I was about to knock.
I was about to knock.
And then I saw you move your hand down and I was like, oh.
lydia smith
I beat you to it.
tim pool
Tattered Shield says, hey Tim, I'm an electrician looking to move to West Virginia.
Got any idea of where the best to move out there?
unidentified
Um, I don't know.
sharyl attkisson
I need an electrician in Virginia.
A good electrician.
tim pool
There you go.
sharyl attkisson
Northern Virginia.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, we chose this area.
It's the tri-state because it's close enough to the big city in the airports So we could be kind of far away, but we're moving further west into West Virginia.
So that's being all being built right now L bossert says if Chuck and Nancy banned body armor that will turn every parent who just bought a bulletproof backpack into a felon Why are they talking about doing that?
Is that what's happening?
lydia smith
Didn't they say something in New York City about banning?
unidentified
Yeah, that's a Supreme Court case going on.
tim pool
Protecting yourself is forbidden.
carrie sheffield
They also want to take the certain body armor away from police and say if it's in the military you can't refurbish it or give it to the police.
lydia smith
That's nuts.
What's the point?
unidentified
I don't get it.
tim pool
YWBSPQR says, this Memorial Day I'd like to also honor those that lost their lives to experimental procedures, corrupt leadership, toxic exposure, stock portfolios, and suicide.
Never forget.
Yeah, there's a lot of really bad stuff throughout history, man.
SeriouslyJK says, Seamus, membership signup doesn't work properly for your information.
seamus coughlin
What?
Okay, so we've definitely gotten some signups, but I can talk to the web dev people.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry that it didn't work for you.
lydia smith
Troubleshooting phase.
seamus coughlin
Yes, we will.
Yes, we are definitely in the troubleshooting phase.
unidentified
That's exciting.
seamus coughlin
But if anyone else is having that problem, please let me know.
Give your home number.
I'll leave a comment below the video and you'll let me know if you're having problems with that.
tim pool
Substance says, bruh, they got a lot of grizzly bears and a lot of polar bears in Canada, and he just took people's most easiest form of defense away from them.
I don't think polar bears are an issue for Canadians.
unidentified
Something about... I think way, way, way up north.
tim pool
Yeah, but there's like no one up there.
seamus coughlin
Moose?
lydia smith
Yeah, moose are a bigger problem.
seamus coughlin
They're up there working in the syrup mines.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
Yeah, people don't realize that up in the far north of Canada, in the syrup mines, it's frozen, and they have to use a pickaxe to chip it away, and when they bring it down south, where it gets warmer, it naturally For the record, there are no penguins in the North Pole, if you ever see them.
seamus coughlin
They're in the South Pole.
tim pool
Do you know what maple syrup is made from? Half maple, half syrup, right? Dinosaurs.
carrie sheffield
Yeah, that's right. For the record, there are no penguins in the North Pole. If you
ever see them, they're in the South Pole. I went to Antarctica and I learned that fact,
so if you ever see them, any Christmas things with penguins in the North Pole? Fake news.
unidentified
Patagonia.
tim pool
I didn't know that.
they're in South America. They're not just in Antarctica.
carrie sheffield
They're in the South. Yeah.
tim pool
So, you know, you'll see like trees and stuff with penguins and people don't realize because
they think penguins are only on ice or whatever. I didn't know that.
For the record, maple syrup comes from maple trees. But I think you all knew that.
seamus coughlin
Is that?
carrie sheffield
You're gonna get a warning!
sharyl attkisson
Maple syrup in the grocery store only has sugar in it.
Yeah, it's not the same.
And caramel color.
seamus coughlin
Is it even sugar or is it just corn syrup?
Or is it even syrup?
Corn syrup with dye.
tim pool
Corn syrup with dye and stuff.
And sodium benzoate.
But if you buy maple syrup, it's maple syrup.
If you buy like... Maple flavored syrup.
Or like breakfast syrup.
They call it table syrup.
That's so...
lydia smith
It is syrup, it's corn syrup.
tim pool
That's crazy.
sharyl attkisson
Tastes so good.
tim pool
I heard that when the colonists came, the Native Americans saw squirrels licking trees, and so they were like, alright, and they cut it open and got the maple syrup out and then showed the... My goodness, did they try eating acorns too?
seamus coughlin
You see a squirrel lick something and you're like, well, I have to try it.
Did you know?
unidentified
You know you can eat maple seeds?
tim pool
Yeah, we call them helicopters in Chicago.
seamus coughlin
But then it grows out of your stomach is the problem.
lydia smith
Yeah, you can't do that.
tim pool
Yeah, you turn into a tree.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no helicopter leaves.
carrie sheffield
What do they taste like?
tim pool
I don't know, but I always noticed when I was a kid, you'd break them up and there'd be like a little nut, like a little seed, and they roast them with like cinnamon and nutmeg.
seamus coughlin
I would just eat them raw, you know?
I'd pick them up off the ground.
lydia smith
That's not right, Janice.
tim pool
Eat the helicopters?
lydia smith
He's dying.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Some more Super Chats.
A lot of people are just yelling at Trudeau and saying words I can't repeat, but okay.
Carter Chrysler says, Army just awarded SIG for contract on the new rifle chambered in 6.8.
So the 5.56 might well soon be phased out of the military.
Really?
For 6.8?
Why that?
Why 6.8?
Someone super chat and give us a good, robust explanation of why.
Yeah.
Archimedes says Seamus, I just sent you an article.
On top of the handgun ban, they are moving to shut down independent media.
Finally!
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I'm so sick of those independent media people, like, lying us into war and spreading conspiracy theories about... Oh, wait a minute...
I switched, that's called the old bait-and-switch for anyone who wants comedy writing tips and tricks.
tim pool
Sir Lemongrab says, Tim and cast, if the left and liberals made a rapture, Bioshock, like place, how long would it take to fail and collapse?
Two weeks.
That's it, two weeks.
seamus coughlin
Well yeah, how long did Chaz last?
Remember when there was like an actual insurrection and left wearers took over several city blocks?
carrie sheffield
Yeah, and there were sexual assaults and rapes and all sorts of violence, yes.
seamus coughlin
All sorts of reasons that you need a gun.
carrie sheffield
Exactly.
As a woman, as a biological woman.
seamus coughlin
An actual one, yes.
sharyl attkisson
Says you.
carrie sheffield
Says me.
No, guns are an equalizer.
It's an equalizer of force.
I mean, yeah, you could rest it on my hands, but it's, I mean, I think it's sexist to try to take away from women.
lydia smith
It absolutely is.
tim pool
Oh yeah, I agree.
Oliver Tractors has asked Cheryl about FBI threatening her husband.
sharyl attkisson
Yes, so part of the FBI surveillance on, the illegal surveillance that I'm suing them over now, in year X, whatever we're in now, part of what one of the sources who admitted being part of this operation to surveil me, there were multiple operations, not just me, other journalists were being surveilled of course, but they acknowledged they were intending to plant child porn on my husband's computer.
Wow.
They say they knew we had a young daughter at home at the time.
I mean, that blows your mind because that shows they understand.
Well, how did you find that out?
One of the federal agents involved through our lawsuits who's spoken to us has talked about that they never accomplished that part because we discovered the operation before, I guess it was closed down, that part of it.
unidentified
Wow.
sharyl attkisson
We have all the forensics showing what they did.
There was no porn in the computer, but that was a discussed plan, according to this one federal agent.
And I've mentioned recently, when I've spoken of this, that there's a current lawsuit, totally unrelated to anything I'm talking about now, but where a former FBI agent has admitted that they planted porn, you know, on suspects' computers.
lydia smith
That is insane.
sharyl attkisson
Yeah, anything's possible.
It's really scary.
seamus coughlin
And how did they get in?
Did they actually break into the person's house or with a virus or just...?
sharyl attkisson
I don't know in that case, but it's so easy for them.
With me, they have remote entry to all my devices and computers, so they can operate your computer.
This is years ago.
It's even easier now, but they can come in through your Verizon system, your Fios line, and operate remotely as if they're sitting in front of your computer.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of course, right?
The NSA can get into everything, basically.
sharyl attkisson
As I was told, like butter.
You know, it's not even hard for them, even if you have firewalls up.
carrie sheffield
Wow.
What story were you investigating that led to that?
sharyl attkisson
Well, we don't know.
There were many stories.
So Fast and Furious, they accessed that information in those files in my computer, and they accessed the CBS system, proprietary system, during that time period.
But I was working on a lot of other stories, too, about pharmaceutical industry.
I was working on Republican corruption stories, as well.
But I think Fast and Furious was a big one.
Then Benghazi.
So there were at least two phases of the surveillance on me.
I think they were watching a lot of Washington journalists at the time, and they probably still are.
Why wouldn't they?
tim pool
All right.
Legama Thagayan says, if Antifa and other domestic terrorist arms of the Democratic Party are just an idea and don't exist, yet Dems donate money to bail them out, then my Tavor 7308 is likewise a social construct that doesn't exist, and I get to spend money on feeding it lead.
unidentified
Love it.
lydia smith
There you go.
There's your way out.
Good luck.
seamus coughlin
Ethan's threat was, it was just an idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
It doesn't exist.
tim pool
It doesn't exist.
Philosophical concepts.
carrie sheffield
It's in Minecraft.
tim pool
Mini Strange Quark says, Shamrock, Shamus, Shamrock, you just got a $10 sub on Freedom Tunes.
seamus coughlin
I love you.
tim pool
I support crazy peanut leprechaun peanut tune makers.
Is that a peanut?
Oh, it's a potato.
seamus coughlin
It's a potato!
unidentified
I love you.
seamus coughlin
I don't love the racism.
Thank you for the money, much appreciated.
I really appreciate that.
We're trying to really get this running well, so if you guys experience anything, I know one person mentioned they had trouble signing up, just DM me on Twitter at Seamus underscore Coghlan, which is super easy to spell.
I'm sure it'll be linked in the description below.
That's right, it is indeed.
Thank you so much for your support.
carrie sheffield
By the way, potatoes are indigenous to North and South America.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
carrie sheffield
It's cultural appropriation.
You can't even use that, whoever this kind subscriber.
Get a new icon.
tim pool
Whenever I get Seamus something, I'll be like, hey Seamus, I got you something.
seamus coughlin
This is true.
tim pool
It's a potato, isn't it?
unidentified
It's a potato thing.
seamus coughlin
I'm like, Tim, this is something racist.
He's like, no bro, I really got you something cool.
I'm like, it's gonna be racist.
unidentified
Why is it?
tim pool
Is it because I got you a potato once?
seamus coughlin
It's because...
Once.
So many times.
Every time you got me something except like two times it was a potato.
tim pool
No, that's not true.
So I found this rare coin from like... Oh, that's true.
seamus coughlin
Two times.
No, so two times.
tim pool
What are you talking about?
I got you an iTunes gift card.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
But that's two times.
Right?
The iTunes gift card.
Which, by the way, is a very nice gift.
And also, the potatoes are nice.
Like, I don't turn that down.
It's not like he gives me the potatoes.
unidentified
It's good food!
seamus coughlin
I'm like, this is an insult to my people!
tim pool
I'm like, how could you do something like this?
We went to a collector's shop, and they had a coin that is from the time of Jesus Christ.
And they believe it may have been the coin used by St.
Casper.
And so I was like, I gotta get this for Seamus.
And so I didn't want to tell him what it was, because I was like, it's really cool.
And Seamus was convinced it was a potato.
And I was like, it's not a potato.
seamus coughlin
It's two potatoes.
unidentified
Potato-related?
tim pool
It's two potatoes.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
And then Tim's like, no, it's really good.
And then I said, three.
tim pool
And so what I did was, when he showed up, French fries.
Instead of handing him the coin right away, I pulled out a packet of potato paper.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
It's sheets of potato starch that we got for a gag.
seamus coughlin
Joke's on you.
They were delicious.
unidentified
I'm sure they were.
Gross.
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
So, uh, I went to the movies.
I noticed nobody was there.
It was kind of crazy.
What time did you go?
It was late at night.
Really?
Yeah, it was like, we saw an 8 o'clock showing.
dismantle your freedoms via fear, threatening the financial stability of your family while
increasing the reliance upon the government.
Yeah, Saturday night.
lydia smith
We went Saturday too.
Saturday night as well.
carrie sheffield
I went Saturday night also, but it was, yeah, I think, well, I went to, they didn't pay me to say this, but there's, it's called the Alamo Draft House Cinema.
It's like a chain now.
tim pool
Yeah, they're super woke.
carrie sheffield
You can get dinner.
Oh, I don't, I, they didn't, I didn't see any of that.
So if they are, then that's annoying, but I didn't see any of that.
It's, uh, no, but they, you, it's like dinner, you order, you can get drinks and, and it was packed.
tim pool
But, uh, we went there and it was super empty, which was really weird to me.
I'm like, where, where are the humans?
Like the buildings were all short staffed.
The theater removed all of like the arcade machines.
When we were sitting down waiting for the movie to start the commercial for the movie subscription thing comes on and it's like, 21 bucks a month!
No, I think it was like 14 bucks.
Unlimited movies!
Just show up!
And I'm like, there's nobody here.
So are there people who are really like, you know, I'm gonna just spend 14 bucks a month?
I thought it was weird that everything is going subscription.
seamus coughlin
It was like 20-something dollars a month, right?
tim pool
Yeah, it was 21, wasn't it?
seamus coughlin
So for it to really be worth it, I mean, for it to really pay for itself, you'd have to go to the movie three times.
Yeah, three weekends out of your month.
tim pool
That's not the issue.
The issue is, Everything is becoming subscription.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's all I said, right?
So I tweeted, you know, has everyone noticed, like, everything's basically subscription these days?
And then I get all these people being like, what do you mean?
What's your point?
And I'm like, that people are embracing subscription.
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
Go to membersattimcast.com and subscribe.
By the way, guys, go to freedomtunes.com.
Become a member, please.
I'm serious.
We need your help.
tim pool
People were like, you have subscriptions on your website.
What do you mean?
unidentified
And I was just like, I didn't say not to do it.
tim pool
I didn't say it was bad.
carrie sheffield
It's a trend.
tim pool
I just said it's kind of crazy.
I said people are getting used to the idea of simple deductions in exchange for just freely available services.
sharyl attkisson
Okay, you brought up my theory now.
This is why young people are not going to have wealth.
You watch what they spend.
You know what bark boxes are?
Advertise to get a new box of toys and treats for your dogs.
carrie sheffield
And then there's Birchbox, which is like, I think like perfume and accessories.
sharyl attkisson
And you see young people, I'm like, you don't have that kind of money.
Like, you should be saving your money for your old age.
seamus coughlin
But actually, hold on.
What you're neglecting is that there are a handful of Millennials who will get really rich selling that stuff.
tim pool
I got an idea.
Hear me out.
We go to a bunch of different chain restaurants, popular ones, Chipotle, Panda Express, whatever, and then we create a membership program where, for 50 bucks a month, you get unlimited access to all of these places.
sharyl attkisson
How do you provide it?
tim pool
Provide what?
sharyl attkisson
How do you provide the access to those places?
seamus coughlin
He doesn't.
tim pool
It's a scam.
seamus coughlin
That's why we make the money.
tim pool
I go to the business and say, you know, track and log every person who comes in and then we pay you a rate based on total usage.
sharyl attkisson
Do it.
tim pool
And then what happens is you get a membership card and you don't gotta worry about paying Olive Garden or whatever.
You show up.
And we do the same thing with groceries.
You will just deduct the money on the first of every month, automatically, and everything is just provided to you.
If you need to fix your car, you just drive to the mechanic.
You don't have to worry about paying any money.
If you want to get food, you go to the store.
And then here's the best part.
Eventually, when we go belly up because it's an unsustainable business model, we get subsidized by the government because we're too big to fail.
The government buys the program and now everyone Excellent.
seamus coughlin
I thought this ended up with someone getting put against the wall for opposing the regime.
I thought we were doing a communism analogy.
tim pool
It was, but that's like 10 years down the line.
sharyl attkisson
What movie did you see?
tim pool
What did we see?
Oh, Firestarter.
lydia smith
Was it good?
tim pool
Although now I regret it.
unidentified
Is that a remake?
tim pool
I want to see Maverick.
unidentified
Is that a remake?
tim pool
It's a Stephen King novel.
I think they remade it.
sharyl attkisson
Maverick, oh my god.
And I'm not easy to please on the movies.
lydia smith
Everybody loved it.
unidentified
The best.
carrie sheffield
It was amazing.
sharyl attkisson
But I don't want to say that because then if you go expecting too much.
Yes.
tim pool
I just, the reason I didn't see it is because I was like, 60-year-old man tries to school young pilots, and I was like... And he does, baby.
unidentified
He does.
seamus coughlin
I like never go to the movies anymore.
Do you guys go to... I mean, is it... Even before COVID.
No, I know, but that was the first time in forever.
sharyl attkisson
Everybody in the room except you went to a movie this weekend.
tim pool
You know what they're doing now, movie theaters?
Because no one's showing up.
carrie sheffield
It's because you're Irish.
seamus coughlin
It's because I don't have friends, actually.
You're poor.
carrie sheffield
You're a poor Irish.
seamus coughlin
It's because I'm insufferable.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Movie theaters.
I'm Irish, too.
Movie theaters are not just playing any movie.
You'll look and you'll see, like, movies from 10 years ago.
sharyl attkisson
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're also allowing screen rentals for video games.
sharyl attkisson
And birthday parties.
tim pool
I think we should do the video game thing.
Like, we should... That's cool.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Yeah.
And we should play... What game should we play?
seamus coughlin
I could just beat you at Smash Bros.
carrie sheffield
on a large screen.
Well, I think, Tim, kind of what you might be getting at, at least thinking about the subscription, a lot of it is, like, It's surrendering power through suggestion, and then also default.
Like, if your life is getting more and more on autopilot, and suggestion, and default, you are surrendering more and more of your decision-making.
Which, you know, is for convenience, a lot of people do.
tim pool
I mean, I gotta be honest.
Legit, if there was a service where it was like $100 a month, and you had unlimited access to a variety of cars parked all over the place, I totally would get it.
carrie sheffield
There's one actually. I think it's called a...
tim pool
Zip car?
carrie sheffield
No, it's like called something Truebol or... I'll look it up.
But it's like nicer cars. Like you can get luxury cars.
Yeah.
tim pool
You can like...
carrie sheffield
Someone was telling... Yeah, a friend of mine was saying...
seamus coughlin
Then you get in a Cadillac and there's a body in the trunk.
You're like, okay, maybe I should have Ubered.
tim pool
The problem with a lot of the car sharing, and I could be wrong about this, where it is...
carrie sheffield
T-U-R-O.
Turo is car rental.
tim pool
Isn't that what you're saying?
What I mean is like you're walking down the street and you're like scooters around town you can just like the scooters exactly exactly so the scooters all over the cities I'm sure most people have seen them you walk up you're in DC I love the scooters they're they're awesome people got to be more responsible with them but you walk up to the scooter you scan with your phone and then just ride if they did cars that way like you walk up there's a car and you go all right this one's good So you're parking, yeah.
carrie sheffield
That's great.
tim pool
Yeah, and then you just take the car.
I'd totally do it.
And then it's just like, it's very much like they used to have zip cars.
I don't know what they still call them.
They still have them.
But they're few and far between.
I suppose you get the app, you look them up.
I love that idea.
You know, so I'm like, hey man, you know, I can't stand driving my car into the city.
sharyl attkisson
Especially in the city, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it's just, it's annoying.
lydia smith
Stressful.
tim pool
Yeah.
Out in the country, driving's fun.
carrie sheffield
Be like me, don't have a car.
I haven't owned a car since 2011.
tim pool
Alright, John King says, Tara Lawson Raymer, San Diego County Supervisor and World Bank Economist, put out a hilarious list of myths on her website.
Sunlight for disinfectant, please.
SOS.
What was it about?
seamus coughlin
Who is this that put this up?
tim pool
Tara Lawson Raymer.
DiscoSpinach says, I thought Seamus was going to apologize for being back at the top of the show.
I demand an apology for having to deal with him again.
JK, glad you're back.
seamus coughlin
Thank you.
Well, look, I will apologize for nothing.
I was working hard getting this website launched for you, because I love you.
And you're going to super chat Tim, and you're not going to subscribe to my website that I built for you.
Literally for you.
What's his name?
What's the name again?
Can you read the name again off the super chat?
I built it for you!
So go to readitoftoons.com and for five bucks a month, that's not, five bucks a month, you're going to get extra cartoons.
You're going to get extra cartoons.
There's a bunch of stuff up there now.
You'll be supporting independent content.
You're going to love it.
You're going to be very glad.
tim pool
For five bucks a month, I get your cartoons?
seamus coughlin
You don't like all of them, but you get to watch extra cartoons.
tim pool
Ah, you got me.
unidentified
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
I knew what you were trying to do there.
tim pool
Give away all your property.
seamus coughlin
Can't pull the wool over my eyes.
tim pool
All right, Bringer of D says, nothing makes me feel more Canadian than following all the rules only to get punished anyway by targeted crime prevention initiatives.
Here's a hundred bucks for the crew, give a big F-Trudeau for me, and here's a plug for the CCFR, NFA, and CSSA, Canada's gun rights orgs.
Right on.
NFA.
Well, the NFA is the National Firearms Act in the United States, and that one's a bad one.
lydia smith
NFAC is very different.
tim pool
Alright, Poly Author says, I've created a website that allows people to enter in one word at a time.
Articles are temporary for now, but will eventually be saved to a database.
It's open for public testing at polyauthor.com.
YouTube doesn't allow messages that sound like .com.
Do you want to pull that up and see if it works?
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
Do it with my computer?
The link that we've never been to before?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Let me just pull it up on my PC?
See if it works?
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
I got a website I'm trying to launch here.
It's gonna crash my computer.
tim pool
Shamus is scared you think you're phishing.
seamus coughlin
What if I get a virus?
What if he's phishing?
What if I get a virus, Tim?
tim pool
Use your phone.
seamus coughlin
That's great.
Yeah.
Won't get a virus on my phone.
unidentified
That's right.
seamus coughlin
What was this?
www.patriottruth.wordpress.blogspot.info?
That's the name of my new social media site, by the way.
I know that I was plugging the Freedom Tunes website.
I have a new social media company I've just started called patriottruthtelling.wordpress.blogspot.truth.net.
unidentified
It's a catchy name and we're hoping... Wait, actually, speaking of that, are you guys on Truth Social?
seamus coughlin
Um, no, no.
carrie sheffield
I just joined.
Well, I was on the waiting list for like two months and I just got off it and it's not as good right now as Getter.
Getter has a lot more features.
You can go live.
seamus coughlin
You know what's way better?
Hold on.
You know what's way better though?
carrie sheffield
I've hoped for it though.
I hope, I mean, it's, you know, I like Trump, so I, I, I hope he gets good people to help him build it.
seamus coughlin
Well, I have something.
I know a better website.
It's called freedomtunes.com and if you go there for $5 a month, you'll get an extra cartoon every week.
There are five cartoons up there now.
There's behind the scenes.
You're gonna see footage of Tim and I improvising videos.
You're gonna see time lapses with commentaries about the videos.
You're gonna love it.
It's an extra cartoon every single week.
tim pool
Alright, Rorschachsno says, Hi Cheryl, considering the founding documents of our
country, such as the Magna Carta, a woman's Bill of Rights isn't that unusual.
The sentiments behind the Constitution was due to people of duty and responsibility,
wasn't understanding the notice.
sharyl attkisson
That's to carry.
unidentified
Yeah.
sharyl attkisson
Carol Sherry.
Sherry Carol.
unidentified
We're interchangeable.
carrie sheffield
Cheryl.
So the question is... Well, it's a statement.
Yeah, it's a statement.
Yeah.
No, I... womensbillofrights.com.
Please go there.
And you can put your name on there.
I know a lot of people have their usernames This is you know, if you want to put your real name out there say that you support women biological women And we're introducing this we've already introduced it on Capitol Hill and we're gonna take it to a state near you, too Well, I I know we'll be more successful in certain states than others I'm already talking to people from a couple states with their governors who are very interested in this so It's really pathetic that this has to be happening now it's like a cavemen cavemen or you know tribal Bedouin tribal societies they knew what a woman was but we don't you know it's like we can put someone on the moon but we can't define a woman all right one small step for what's what's a man
Personhood.
seamus coughlin
Personhood?
Yeah, exactly.
carrie sheffield
But it has the word son in it, so I'm sorry.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
We got Dank.
He says, Hi Tim, I recently graduated from uni with a BA in comms and I want to work for you.
I'm a TV producer-engineer with two and a half years of experience, six years of video editing experience, six years of voice acting experience.
I play three instruments.
I'm fluent in Russian.
Dank, send an email to timp at timcast.com.
carrie sheffield
Which instruments?
I play violin, piano, and oboe.
tim pool
I play the guitar, the acoustic guitar, the acoustic electric guitar, and the bass.
sharyl attkisson
Drums.
Piano, clarinet.
tim pool
I play the synth, the drum machine... Zither?
The, uh... The triangle?
sharyl attkisson
That's what a zither is.
Lydia knows.
tim pool
I actually do play the drums, and actually, I play guitar, bass, and drums.
But guitar and bass, it's like, if you can play guitar, you can play bass.
I mean, not necessarily if you can, like, slap and stuff.
That's a different skill set from strumming.
But, you know.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
That's really offensive to bassists, by the way.
You're probably gonna get in trouble for that.
tim pool
Well, like a real bass player...
They can legit play the bass.
But someone who can play the guitar can play the bass.
Just doesn't mean you're not going to be good at it, right?
You'll be good enough at it.
seamus coughlin
It's like anyone can play a bass but not be good at it, right?
Like anyone can play any instrument really badly.
tim pool
If you can play the guitar, you can pick up the bass and play bass for your band.
But you want a real bass player who's got good writing skills.
sharyl attkisson
True.
tim pool
Rommel says, I'm an engineer for Sig Sauer.
The army wanted a projectile and rifle that is capable of penetrating body armor at long ranges.
The advancement and level 4 armpit makes it much easier and lighter to use.
Love y'all.
Interesting.
All right.
Spiro Floropoulos says, um, so I've messaged about Sources Say Online three times now.
Any love for that?
Same as that website, one word at a time.
Uh, we'll write on.
We'll have to check out SourcesSay.Online and see what it's all about.
SourcesSay.Online looks way better than polyauthor.com.
Just saying.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
We got a fight happening.
All right, we'll check it out.
But if you haven't already, you gotta smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends.
Head over to TimCast.com and become a member.
We're gonna have that members-only show coming up.
It'll be published in just about an hour.
And it's not family-friendly.
We swear a lot.
It's the after-dark show, not for your kids.
After hours.
seamus coughlin
What do you mean we swear a lot, Tim?
You swear a lot.
tim pool
I do swear.
seamus coughlin
I'm perfectly well behaved on the after show.
lydia smith
James swears so much.
tim pool
So head over there, check it out.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
Follow us on Instagram because we post clips throughout the day on Instagram.
So at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at TimCast.
Cheryl, did you want to shout anything out?
sharyl attkisson
CherylAkison.com.
Also, I'm giving out an independent journalism cash award called the ION Awards.
I've already done it at two journalism schools, but now to professional journalists for off-narrative reporting.
If you know anybody, today's the last day, maybe tomorrow, to enter.
Go to CherylAkison.com, read more.
Because I'm trying to encourage people to do reporting more the old-fashioned way like we used to.
tim pool
So, how many people?
Was it 20 people win the Pulitzer every year?
sharyl attkisson
I don't even know.
That's the print awards.
tim pool
I think it's 20 people, and they get $15,000 each for a Pulitzer.
So I've been talking with some people.
We have a non-profit for fact-checking, and I think we're going to start doing awards.
sharyl attkisson
I think that's brilliant.
I'm giving $3,000 to the students and $3,000 for the professional of my money, which to journalists, as a young journalist, that's a lot of money to me.
It's a big deal, yeah.
That's nice.
And I judge the Emmys every year.
I still let you do that.
I'm impressed.
Good for you.
There's some great entries every year from almost every news organization.
They're just not always prominent stories.
tim pool
But isn't it pay to play?
sharyl attkisson
As someone who's received quite a few Emmys myself, Not always.
I hope not.
But it's the same, it tends to be the same 10 stories over and over year after year, if you know what I mean.
Like the same foreign stories with the same themes, even the same domestic stories by different reporters.
And some of it's very good reporting, but it's very on the narrative.
And if you do anything that's not these days off, if you do anything that's not on the narrative, you're not going to win any of those awards.
So I'm trying to recognize some of those.
tim pool
It needs to be, what we want to do is you don't need to apply for it.
So that's, like, the M is you apply for it, don't you?
unidentified
Yes.
sharyl attkisson
News organization or whatnot.
tim pool
That feels fake to me, to be completely honest.
You know, so having worked in corporate press, it's like, now submit to us what you think is worthy, and you have to pay a fee?
Yes.
carrie sheffield
Yeah, they have full-time people, and that's their job, is to apply for awards for the news outlets.
tim pool
Yeah, when I worked, they had people on staff and it was like, make sure you're submitting and paying the fees.
And I'm like, so they make a bunch of money off the fees?
sharyl attkisson
They do.
tim pool
And then give it to the person they think is better?
It's like, that's gambling to me.
The only difference is, like, if you're not in the club, you don't win.
carrie sheffield
Oh, and it's never retracted, like all those Pulitzers who went for all of the Russia hoax-gate.
tim pool
What we're gonna do is, one day, you, as an independent journalist or reporter, will get an email saying, we've selected you as the winner.
You needed nothing to do.
We just thought you did a good job and we want you to keep doing it.
So, uh, the one thing we're waiting on right now is all the paperwork's filed.
We're just waiting for filing status to, like, be formalized.
We filed a while ago.
sharyl attkisson
Love it.
carrie sheffield
That's great.
tim pool
But, um, there are a lot of people who are interested in helping fund the project, and I'm just like, cool.
We will see a journalist who's on the ground, and we're gonna have an award ceremony, and we'll explain why we chose this person, and we'll probably end up picking people who won't like us.
They're going to be like, I'm not coming.
I'm glad we thought you did a good job.
So you deserve it.
But, uh, yeah, anyway, uh, Carrie, do you want to shout anything out?
carrie sheffield
Oh yeah.
Uh, womensbillofrights.com.
And then I also started a sub stack, uh, and it's carriesheffield.substack.com.
seamus coughlin
Very cool.
unidentified
I don't really have anything to promote.
seamus coughlin
If you guys want to go over to my YouTube channel, Freedom Tunes, we make cartoons.
I think you guys will enjoy them.
We also have a website we just launched, freedomtunes.com.
If you subscribe and become a member, five bucks a month, you'll get extra cartoons.
You'll also be supporting independent content.
That goes against what the establishment wants you to believe.
lydia smith
Very cool.
I might have to go check out what's going on on this crazy weird new website that James keeps pushing for some reason.
You guys may follow me on Twitter at Minds.com at SourPatchlets as well as SourPatchlets.me.
tim pool
We will see all of you over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
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