May 17, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| you Elon Musk has responded to the report from Project Veritas | ||
| showing a Twitter senior engineer saying that the the platform is biased they | ||
| do censor conservatives they don't censor the left the company is | ||
| commie as F and the best part is the engineer says he works like four hours per | ||
| week and just shows up when he feels like it or just takes days off | ||
| I'm sure your new boss, potentially, Coming in would love to know about how you guys don't do any work. | ||
| I'm willing to bet Elon's gonna go to his investors and these other, you know, stockholders and people giving loan and whatever and be like, I'm pretty sure I can save you a lot of money because these guys are getting paid to do nothing. | ||
| We also have another release from Project Veritas. | ||
| Who was the guy at Twitter? | ||
| What was his position? | ||
| I want to make sure I get it right. | ||
| Lead engineer. | ||
| Lead engineer saying basically get woke, go broke. | ||
| So you've got a guy at Twitter saying wokeness is hurting their ability to become profitable or to generate profit. | ||
| And he is absolutely correct. | ||
| We'll talk about that. | ||
| Of course, the other stuff with Elon Musk. | ||
| Basically freezing the deal because he wants evidence of the bot's proof that's less than 5% and he's even calling the SEC informally to investigate. | ||
| I gotta ask, was this guy who was saying he only works four hours a week, was he on a date? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's a very weird thing to brag about. | ||
| Yeah, I'm super lazy. | ||
| I'm not a productive person. | ||
| My bit on this was, you know, when I was seeing the leak. | ||
| Veritas does this all the time, where they have women go on Tinder dates. | ||
| There's gotta be a short film, or we gotta do a skit, where it's an engineer, you know, and she's like, tell me more. | ||
| And then, you know, like someone texts him and it's like, you're being, it's a sting by Veritas, and he confronts her and he's like, Is this all I was to you? | ||
| She's like, no, when it started it was, but now it's something more. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's a natural Mr. Deeds story. | ||
| And then she's like, I don't want to do this with Veritas. | ||
| I want to be with you. | ||
| I don't know if I can trust you. | ||
| And then they get together in the end. | ||
| James O'Keefe is the villain. | ||
| He's got a twirling mustache. | ||
| You're like, no! | ||
| I'm against love! | ||
| Alright, we're gonna talk about news, I guess. | ||
| We got Jordan Peterson getting roasted because he called, there's a fat chick on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and he said she was not beautiful and it was authoritarian. | ||
| And look, I think, what did you say, you got wisdom in choosing your battles or something? | ||
| Oh, yeah, I was just gonna say, I mean, yeah, pick your battles kind of thing. | ||
| I, you know, I'm a fan of the doctor. | ||
| I want to start only calling fat girls authoritarian now. | ||
| If you're fat. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I don't even know what the rest of it. | ||
| We have other news, apparently. | ||
| There's some other stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Joe Biden did something. | ||
| He's criticizing Tucker Carlson. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We got we got a lot of Elon stuff. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Gas prices. | ||
| A gas station, I think, in the Pacific Northwest ran out of gas and they're preparing for four digit gasoline prices. | ||
| So thanks, Joe Biden. | ||
| Joining us to talk about all this is Jamie Kilstein. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| I am just here trying not to get cancelled again. | ||
| Wrong place to ask for that, buddy. | ||
| No, you guys are beloved by everybody. | ||
| That's what my PR agency tells me. | ||
| Well, not Lydia, but the rest of us are. | ||
| She's the one getting us cancelled. | ||
| Lydia's so likeable. | ||
| That's why they hate her. | ||
| I'm a comedian. | ||
| I'm a comedian. | ||
| I'm a comic. | ||
| Let's just say that. | ||
| That's much easier than my fucking sad story. | ||
| I already blew it. | ||
| I already blew it. | ||
| We're three minutes in, so we're good. | ||
| Actually, the rule on YouTube is you can't swear in the first 30 seconds. | ||
| Oh, is that it? | ||
| If you swear a lot, they start pinging you. | ||
| But the rule specifically is like, did you swear in the first 30 seconds? | ||
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No? | |
| Alright. | ||
| So it's like, alright, whatever. | ||
| But there are children watching. | ||
| Well, I assume we have people who are parents who will play the show in their car or something. | ||
| I love the idea of a child with a Project Veritas shirt who doesn't want to hear dirty words. | ||
| We also have Seamus. | ||
| Yeah, Seamus of Freedom Tunes. | ||
| We're going to be releasing a new cartoon this Thursday as we do every Thursday. | ||
| Announced last show that we're going to be launching a paywall at freedomtunes.com. | ||
| If y'all guys want to sign up to get notified when we launch on May 30th for five bucks a month, you're going to get behind the scenes content and also an extra video every week, an extra cartoon every week. | ||
| Oh, that's what I was supposed to do. | ||
| Promote my stuff. | ||
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I'm so used to doing podcasts where I'm in trouble. | |
| Like back in the day, I would just get introduced as a funny man. | ||
| You've seen him on Conan O'Brien. | ||
| And now there's like a five minute intro, like once a darling of the left until things got dark. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I host a podcast. | ||
| It's called a fuck up. | ||
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It's called a f-ups guide to the universe. | |
| I'm so bad at marketing. | ||
| F up Sky to the Universe. | ||
| We have everyone from porn stars to John Cleese and I talk about being a screw up and getting through it and tell you not to kill yourself and it's great. | ||
| So the interesting thing is one of the big stories we have is that Elon Musk announced he's voting Republican. | ||
| He's not going to be voting Democrat. | ||
| and there's there's a there's an interesting uh... story there for for i | ||
| mean obviously for many of you for me personally for those of us who feel like the democrats have gone nuts | ||
| but uh... you got canceled by a lot of the left so we'll get in all that stuff | ||
| but i think your experience will play into the story pretty interestingly. I'm psyched about that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you already mention? | ||
| I did not introduce myself yet. | ||
| I am also here. | ||
| I'm pushing buttons in the corner. | ||
| I'm stoked for tonight. | ||
| I think it's gonna be hilarious. | ||
| I'm really interested to talk about this lady. | ||
| I don't think this is in any way authoritarian, but we will get into it. | ||
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| Let's jump into the first story. | ||
| Yo, this is cool. | ||
| Elon Musk finally responds to Project Veritas sting in which Twitter engineer says all the workers there are commie as F and that they hate the billionaire Tesla boss. | ||
| He said, is this legit? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| But those three words mean so much. | ||
| In the viral video. | ||
| So actually, I think they're... So I posted this video. | ||
| It's got like six million views. | ||
| It's a Veritas video. | ||
| I posted it because it was newsworthy. | ||
| People are blowing it up and putting it out like crazy. | ||
| And I'm like, all right, cool. | ||
| This guy says he only works four hours a week. | ||
| I think he basically says people can and like he did. | ||
| I don't want to say that he always does. | ||
| I don't know exactly what he's trying to intend. | ||
| But he also talks about how the company is just left, left, left, left, left. | ||
| How they all hate Elon. | ||
| He talks about how the right will tolerate the left-wing speech, but the left will say if you don't ban them, we quit. | ||
| So Twitter basically says, okay, ban the people on the right because the people on the right don't care. | ||
| All of that being confirmed. | ||
| But in those three words, is this legit? | ||
| Elon Musk, who is currently... He's currently frozen the deal. | ||
| He's delaying it, saying, prove your bots. | ||
| And now everyone's saying, oh, he's trying to shake them down, or he's trying to get out of the deal. | ||
| I still think Elon Musk knows what he's doing. | ||
| I still think he has a good likelihood to win. | ||
| I think he's likely exposed fraud. | ||
| And with this Veritas video, Elon Musk may now be able to actually renegotiate the deal. | ||
| That's the big news. | ||
| Because a lot of people on the left are saying, Elon Musk was willing to forego due diligence, saying, we'll do the deal as is. | ||
| The contract is the contract, right? | ||
| Twitter, apparently the Twitter board is saying, no, no, he's got to buy it. | ||
| With this video release, though, Elon Musk can be like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. | ||
| You didn't disclose the work hours. | ||
| You didn't disclose censorship or political ideology. | ||
| But more so, I think the work hours in this is going to give him an ability to try and go back at the Twitter board. | ||
| The real victim is the woman on the date who had to hear all of this on a first date. | ||
| That is a lot for a Tinder date. | ||
| Brave women. | ||
| And I gotta tell you, Project Veritas Journalist, there's a meme where it says, if you are an engineer at Twitter and a beautiful young woman wants to know about your job, it's James O'Keefe. | ||
| Do not say anything. | ||
| I think that's the easiest way to put it. | ||
| It's so funny that there's no Edward Snowden-esque leaker and literally all you need to do is go put a hot chick in front of a tech nerd and it's over. | ||
| You've just blown the company. | ||
| This is why... | ||
| So I'm watching this leak the other day and I feel bad for this guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he doesn't seem like a bad dude. | ||
| He says that he's okay with Elon buying the company. | ||
| You know, he's become more left, but he's, you know, he, he doesn't seem like a bad guy. | ||
| He's telling people like, this is what's happening at the company. | ||
| He's saying it's bad for business. | ||
| He's not, it doesn't even sound like he's being ideological. | ||
| He's like, this is hurting the place I work. | ||
| But the sad thing is, you know, he meets this, this young, attractive woman on Tinder and he thinks maybe he's finally found love. | ||
| But it was James O'Keefe the whole time. | ||
| You know what we should do? | ||
| We should do a skit where we get a guy talking to a beautiful young woman and then he's like, wait a minute, something's off. | ||
| And then he grabs her hair and he pulls it off James' suit. | ||
| It's like actually James O'Keefe. | ||
| It's actually James O'Keefe. | ||
| They pull the wig down and then James is literally, he's sitting there in a suit, he's got a microphone. | ||
| Tell me more about what you were saying. | ||
| He's there in the pimp suit. | ||
| I'm gonna have nightmares about that forever. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| This is the sting operation. | ||
| It's young women on Tinder, and it works. | ||
| I mean, it's genius. | ||
| It's brilliant. | ||
| It's so basic. | ||
| I think it's legit. | ||
| I think it's legit. | ||
| Man, when it comes to this stuff, especially this culture where no one is encouraged to cultivate any self-control when it comes to sexuality, I think a lot of young men are like, OK, this could be a sting. | ||
| There's a probability, but I'm just going to try anyway. | ||
| Yeah, that's why no one nowadays wears condoms anymore. | ||
| It's just the whistleblower equivalent of that. | ||
| I wonder if we are being arrogant, and maybe this dude, what's his name? | ||
| Uh, Siru. | ||
| He might be swimming in women, you know what I mean? | ||
| He might just be kicking back with his own pimp outfit, and he's like, just another girl at seven o'clock. | ||
| Make it quick, lady. | ||
| I mean, he only works four hours a week, right? | ||
| He's got a lot of time on his hands. | ||
| Maybe he does just have a bunch of different girlfriends. | ||
| We don't know that. | ||
| He thought he was playing her. | ||
| Maybe he's spying on her for another organization. | ||
| Like, we don't know. | ||
| Maybe he's wearing a hidden camera. | ||
| He's trying to take down O'Keefe. | ||
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It's just like this circular rain of hell. | |
| Can you imagine how paranoid James O'Keefe must be on a date? | ||
| He's like, alright, eventually this is coming to me. | ||
| I know how this works. | ||
| He's just always trying to shake them down for microphones. | ||
| So so he's like, let's go to the beach for our date. | ||
| Yeah, well, you know, we'll go swimming. | ||
| Yeah Saroosh T. I gotta admit I do feel bad for a lot of these people that get get that get caught by O'Keefe because I don't think Not every single person that gets exposed as a bad guy, right? | ||
| This guy is just he's a senior engineer. | ||
| He's in this environment He probably doesn't know or care about what's going on culturally. | ||
| He does a little bit and he's like, yeah, this is what's happening and so now He's forced to be a whistleblower, basically. | ||
| But I still respect and think what James is doing is completely legitimate. | ||
| I mean, it's real reporting, and if we can't hear what these people are saying and doing and we don't know what's going on in these companies, bad things happen. | ||
| So this guy basically admitting everything. | ||
| And he's different from a lot of what we've seen. | ||
| When we've seen, like, that Google woman and she's talking about stuff, it's like, you've got people at big tech companies talking about how they set policy, how they do policy. | ||
| This is a guy on a date who's like, yo, this is what my company is like. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So now he's deleted his Twitter account. | ||
| I think he's deleted his LinkedIn. | ||
| Twitter has issued a statement to their Tweeps. | ||
| That's what they call it. | ||
| That's the most offensive part of all of this. | ||
| Yeah, I'm super offended by that. | ||
| What is a tweet? Is that a customer? Is that someone who works there? | ||
| Someone who works there. So here's the email. He didn't mention that on the date. | ||
| Yikes, yeah, no wonder. | ||
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Funny. | |
| He's still too ashamed of that. | ||
| He's like, they call us tweets. | ||
| It would've been funny if he just started crying. | ||
| All right, so we have this Instagram post from Veritas. | ||
| Targeting of tweets, says the email. | ||
| Tweeps! | ||
| I can't believe I'm reading that. | ||
| As we expected, a video was posted this evening by Project Veritas depicting a tweep allegedly speaking about a number of company issues. | ||
| We're in contact with the person involved and doing everything we can to help them. | ||
| There may be more videos to come, and we're continuing to monitor the situation. | ||
| Help them? | ||
| Help him, you mean? | ||
| Why are they saying them? | ||
| Them there. | ||
| Are we learning something about Siru? | ||
| Is it not a little bit interesting that everyone at Twitter who didn't like Elon Musk felt very comfortable | ||
| voicing their displeasure with him potentially taking over the company even though he may have been running the place | ||
| in the near future but someone who has issues with the way Twitter is run now tries to be very quiet | ||
| and the only way we're able to get information from them is on hidden camera. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| It goes on, it says, please review my previous note on how you can protect yourself and your fellow tweets from similar attempts in the future. | ||
| If you think you are being targeted or have been targeted, contact blank at twitter.com redacted. | ||
| For safety and privacy of those involved, we ask you do not tweet about the situation or any related issues. | ||
| Please remember that we all have an obligation to protect confidential proprietary information and not discuss internal conversations, policies, or products outside of work. | ||
| Take care and stay safe. | ||
| Pat. | ||
| Pat. | ||
| As soon as you sent the email out, they leaked it to Project Veritas. | ||
| So that last message right there fell on deaf ears for sure. | ||
| Whoopsie. | ||
| Oh, good though. | ||
| I mean, Ciro may not be somebody who's stepping up and willing to speak out about what I view as corruption within the company. | ||
| Somebody is. | ||
| Somebody, you know, is showing what they're saying behind the scenes and exposing what I would view as malfeasance. | ||
| Also, are there any hot blondes that can go undercover and find out why I'm shadowbanned on Instagram? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Can we just start, like, just hiring our own hot girls to find out? | ||
| That's a good idea. | ||
| I'm imagining the same scenario with, like, a hot young girl talking to Mark Zuckerberg, and how he would be... He has no idea how to respond. | ||
| Yeah, he would just be, like, staring at her blankly, and she's like, tell me about your work. | ||
| My work is good. | ||
| Start speaking to her in binary? | ||
| 0-1-1-0-1-0-1-1. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
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Zuckerberg's married, I think, right? | |
| I do always think it's stupid that people try and do these arguments where it's like, if for some reason they don't like you, they attack your manhood. | ||
| But primarily on the left. | ||
| I always find that funny. | ||
| Like, why is it that people on the left, who are the ones who are like traditional masculinities and a thing, and they're like, you're an incel! | ||
| Well, because one thing the left... Because everyone's hypocrites. | ||
| Well, exactly. | ||
| The left doesn't believe the things that they espouse. | ||
| They know that conservatives are generally more sensitive to the idea of whether or not they're being considered masculine, or at least they assume that. | ||
| They're constantly trying to break down gender barriers, but they think, oh, if I challenge his manhood, then I'll be able to manipulate him into doing what I want. | ||
| Everyone has the same fears. | ||
| Everyone has the same insecurities. | ||
| Everyone's a hypocrite. | ||
| Everyone uses the same stuff except for this guy. | ||
| Except me. | ||
| They actually built an oversized set because they want... So he had to look normal? | ||
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No, no. | |
| I think he's like slightly about average. | ||
| And I was like, oh, he's taller than me. | ||
| Great. | ||
| You didn't have to tell people that. | ||
| They all know. | ||
| But they lie about his height. | ||
| And then they also call him an incel. | ||
| And Ben's just sitting there with his kids and his wife and he's like, I have a family. | ||
| And then you're like, I don't understand why. | ||
| Who are they trying to hurt? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Go after ideas. | ||
| Go after ideas. | ||
| That's all you have to do. | ||
| If you have any merit to yours, go after ideas. | ||
| Like anytime I was, it's like when you're fighting with your girlfriend or boyfriend and the second you realize you're wrong, you just like change the subject and panic. | ||
| No, you said you were going to the last week. | ||
| And it's just, you're panicking. | ||
| You're doubling down and you're panicking and you're, you're short. | ||
| All right, bud. | ||
| You're out of ideas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| There are so many. | ||
| It's funny because you bring up relationships. | ||
| There are so many different communication habits that you see predominantly on the left that would be deeply unhealthy in any kind of relationship. | ||
| So for example, they assume that they know that you have some kind of like racist attitude inside of you or sexist attitude. | ||
| And then they're just like trying to picket your words in some way that will justify their narrative. | ||
| They like start with the conclusion that you're a bad person acting in bad faith so they can malign you. | ||
| That's not how you have conversations with people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| that's not how you have conversations with people, it's deeply unhealthy. | ||
| That's why I was saying the other day when we had met on, I was like, we don't do, uh, | ||
| we don't do, uh, stuntmen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Political stuntmen. | ||
| People who do, make games of things and they're like infotainment stuff. | ||
| I'm not gonna invite them on. | ||
| I mean, maybe, but people who have done it to us are just like out the first time they | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if they try and pull any stunts to rage-bait their audience and go, woo, look at us, we're culture warriors, I'm like, eh, we're not gonna fight that guy. | ||
| All right, we have a correction. | ||
| We have a story from Veritas, but we mentioned earlier that the guy was a lead engineer, he's a lead client partner. | ||
| Oh, that's my fault, my fault. | ||
| But let's read this story with a tweet from Lydia Lederman. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Who's this? | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| Lighterman, Lighterman. | ||
| Lighterman. | ||
| I pronounced it wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Twitter lead client partner says woke ideology responsible for inability to profit, hmm, affirms Twitter not here to give people free speech, refuses taking Elon Musk seriously due to Asperger's making him special. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Well, now here's the issue. | ||
| I like the first thing he said, but the ableism just gets to me. | ||
| It is problematic, as they say. | ||
| Let's hear what this man has to say. | ||
| Okay, let me fix the edit. | ||
| Wait, also, is this another date? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Yeah, this is how you do it. | ||
| Well, to be fair, these guys probably make pretty good money, so it's probably pretty easy for them to get dates. | ||
| I mean, look, if you're a guy on Tinder, you're right. | ||
| I got very excited when you said WMDs. | ||
| I'm like, finally one I'm allowed to agree with. | ||
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I agree with that one. | |
| Don't get me in trouble. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| I remember the war in Iraq. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| Follow me on Twitter. | ||
| So this guy... My favorite, by the way, was during that kind of slurred rant, seeing the person he was out with slowly pick up the wine glass as he's just rambling. | ||
| What did you notice? | ||
| Also, one thing I loved is the way he said it. | ||
| He's like, oh, people can make their own decisions. | ||
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Great. | |
| So I noticed something. | ||
| Did you notice something about this video that is different from the other video? | ||
| I don't think you saw the other video, though. | ||
| It's a dude, right? | ||
| It's a dude. | ||
| That means it's not Tinder. | ||
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That means it's Grindr. | |
| It's a Grindr date! | ||
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It's an advertiser as my business is what I do every day and why I go out is like we want it to be as fair and transparent and accurate as possible and if that means there's a level of censorship to make it Correct, quote-unquote, again. | |
| And what does correct mean? | ||
| I guess it just kind of goes against the idea of, like, what is correct? | ||
| If we're implementing all these rules, and Elon wants to dismantle them, then technically... | ||
| Our ideology has led us to not making money because we're not making money. | ||
| And Elon wants to turn it the other way so that we can make money. | ||
| There's a statement they need all 7,000 people to say. | ||
| And so they can't, like, tell us the, like, the real truth. | ||
| He has hospitals. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I know that. | ||
| So he's special. | ||
| You're special needs. | ||
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You're literally special needs. | |
| So... | ||
| I can't even take what you're saying seriously. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| You can read it. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| How to protect yourself. | ||
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Groups like Project Veritas are active. | |
| Oh, he's so full of it. | ||
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Dude, I'm sorry. | |
| At that second, I would end the date. | ||
| I'd be like, ah, okay. | ||
| Oh, you don't know how to pronounce Veritas? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| 100%, you don't work. | ||
| No, that's the Veritas journalist. | ||
| No, I know, I know. | ||
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That's what I'm saying. | |
| He's obviously trying to come back. | ||
| He's like, what's this Project Veritas? | ||
| He's like, I've never heard of this wonderful sounding organization. | ||
| Why does Twitter dislike them? | ||
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. | |
| I'm gonna go back a little bit. | ||
| He starts talking about it. | ||
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What the f*** is that? | |
| It's like some group that's trying to just out the employees. | ||
| Like they're trying to- Yo, this is from- This is from like yesterday! | ||
| Bro! | ||
| This is like- How obvious does a trap have to be? | ||
| Project Veritas? | ||
| He's like, let me tell you everything I think about that. | ||
| You know what I love? | ||
| Acorn! | ||
| He's like this wonderful organization, Acorn, and they got destroyed. | ||
| I mean, this person, this is the ultimate. | ||
| If you are doing a sting operation and your mark shows you your other successful sting operation, it's just gold. | ||
| You're like, I am killing it. | ||
| By the way, this is the fault of those dating coaches who are telling people to repeat every incriminating thing about themselves on their first date with a stranger. | ||
| Wait, is this a big thing? | ||
| No, I'm being sarcastic. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| No, because I've definitely done that on First Dates, where I was just like, sit down and let me tell you a tale of a website called Jezebel. | ||
| I've done that on First Dates. | ||
| Do not suggest. | ||
| The Twitter guy sits down and he's like, hello, I'm John. | ||
| And you're Janet. | ||
| Nice to meet you. | ||
| I commit crimes at Twitter. | ||
| I disparage people who are lesser than me. | ||
| And I want to rule the world. | ||
| And that's our goal for the company. | ||
| And we're going to steal money from people. | ||
| It's like, well, that was something weird to lead with. | ||
|
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I was playing more also going like this and record them and then go sell it to the New | |
| York Times and say this is what the Twitter employee just said. | ||
| This is what's really happening. | ||
| This is what they're telling us to not do. | ||
| You're lucky that you met me organically because I would be questioning everything about you. | ||
| Oh, that was so brutal. | ||
| Oh, they just put that in there to hurt the man. | ||
| They just put that in there to hurt the man. | ||
| There was no reason to include that in the story, dude. | ||
| That's a cartoon. | ||
|
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That didn't really happen. | |
| No, none of that really happened. | ||
| Look into the camera. | ||
| We are being set up right now. | ||
|
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He looks at the camera. | |
| Tim, this is to set you up for reporting misinformation. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We're not falling for it right now. | ||
| We are going on record. | ||
| It's a trap. | ||
| This is the skit. | ||
| This is not real. | ||
| I met you at a bar! | ||
| How could you do this to me? | ||
|
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I didn't mean to! | |
| We were viewing the news! | ||
| You're not part of that project, Veritas. | ||
| You would never hurt me. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| I'm telling you, we're about to hear sirens. | ||
| The house is being surrounded right now. | ||
| This is us being set up. | ||
| One million percent. | ||
| No, they're like filming us, I don't know, through the computer somehow. | ||
| Oh my gosh, we have webcams on our computer. | ||
| We're being set up. | ||
| They want to see your response to it. | ||
| Let me play this. | ||
| Let me play it again. | ||
|
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Best to not do. | |
| You're lucky that you met me organically, because I would be questioning everything about you. | ||
| Yo, that hurt my soul. | ||
| I know, it's like very creepy. | ||
| Like he gets real close to her. | ||
| He does get close. | ||
| I would be questioning everything about you. | ||
| Do you guys think he knew? | ||
| I mean, it looks like it, but he said everything he wasn't supposed to say. | ||
| But he literally looked into the... But this guy's suspicious of Project Veritas and he goes on a date and tells the person everything. | ||
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And shows them the email saying not to do it! | |
| I gotta tell you guys a story. | ||
| I once worked for a news organization. | ||
| And we were getting spearfishing emails. | ||
| So, do you guys know what spear phishing is? | ||
| Like the actual sport or is it some weird political term? | ||
| Email. | ||
| It's a hacker term. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| See, I knew it. | ||
| So, phishing is when you'll get a random email that says, like, sign up today, click here. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You do, and then it tries to give your password. | ||
| A spear phishing attack is when they spoof an email. | ||
| And so we were getting emails from higher ups at this company to us saying, Hey, there's a big story. | ||
| Check it out right here. | ||
| And I'm not an idiot. | ||
| So as soon as I saw it, I laughed. | ||
| It had like the wrong title for the, for the, for the staff member. | ||
| I brought it to the CTO and I was like, Hey, we're getting phishing attempts. | ||
| I was like, maybe it's just me. | ||
| And he was like, no, everybody got it. | ||
| And I was like, Oh, for real? | ||
| And he's like, and 25 people flicked it. | ||
| And I went. | ||
| I was like, yep, go figure. | ||
| And then I was like, didn't they realize their boss wasn't that position? | ||
| And they were like, they didn't think about it. | ||
| And so they locked it up right away. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Here's where it gets really good. | ||
| So then a few days later, we all get basic phishing attacks. | ||
| Where it's an email from a company that I've never heard of, and it's like, sign up today, click here, and I laugh. | ||
| And so I go to the CTO again, and I say, I'm getting more phishing attempts. | ||
| And he's like, I know, I know, I know, we'll deal with it. | ||
| And then a few hours later, a company-wide email from the CTO goes out saying, guys, I told you not to click these links. | ||
| If you've clicked any of these links, you now need to reset your password. | ||
| With a link! | ||
| And as soon as I saw it, I went to the CTO and I was like, bro, this was the best spear phishing attack ever. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| The CTO never sent out an email. | ||
| That was the attack. | ||
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Clever. | |
| And then he was like, wait, what happened? | ||
| And I was like, it came from you, dude. | ||
| They spoofed your email. | ||
| It was masterful, and they got in. | ||
| Here's why I bring this up. | ||
| Those hackers are hilarious. | ||
| I was laughing, and the CTO was stressed, but he was like, that was good. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| It was a very clever manipulation. | ||
| It was a three-layered attack. | ||
| Here's why I bring this story up. | ||
| For one, I love that story of the hacker move, how they broke into the system. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| But the best part is, this guy, working for Twitter, is sent a warning email. | ||
| From there, people are like, guys, be on the lookout, don't do this. | ||
| And he goes, I'm going to do exactly what they told me not to do with this stranger. | ||
| He's like, I'm going to get some tail. | ||
| Also, these are not sexy stories to talk about on the day. | ||
| Like, if you're getting that email, just bring up something else, dude. | ||
| I'd like to issue an apology and retraction. | ||
| It was not a Grindr date. | ||
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It was not. | |
| Oh, no? | ||
| They did meet organically. | ||
| Organically. | ||
| They met organically. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Dude, I can't wait... At Grindr HQ. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I can't wait to... Just pacing outside. | ||
| I can't wait to finally see the Veritas video where it's like at the altar at their wedding. | ||
| He's like, yeah, he's just going on about his job and the corrupt things they're doing there. | ||
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The priest is like, look at this email. | |
| It's their 25th wedding anniversary. | ||
| The priest is like, Uh, we will now have the bride and groom read their vows. | ||
| And then he's like, when I first met you, I was working for a large bank. | ||
| I was funneling money to private corporations in Panama. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| No, dude. | ||
| And the priest is like, he's a fake priest. | ||
| He's also in and out. | ||
| He's like, if you have any intimidating information about yourself, you may now say it. | ||
| Her children from a past marriage have tiny mustaches and are wearing trench coats. | ||
| Yo, we gotta, we have to get, we have to do the skit, we have to get James in on it. | ||
| We have to. | ||
| That would be hysterical. | ||
| Like, we get like a small, young woman sitting in front of the guy, and he goes, wait a minute, and when he grabs her hair and pulls it down, it's just a full, like, six foot tall James O'Keefe in a suit. | ||
| This is like the Twitter version of To Catch a Predator, where every time they're like, I'm gonna get away, you're not from that crazy MSNBC show, and then Chris Hansen, what, we do that with James O'Keefe, like, why don't you have a seat? | ||
| Why don't you take a seat over there? | ||
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What part of you thought this made any sense? | |
| Dude, uh, I'm not kidding. | ||
| We should legit do those. | ||
| It'd be funny skits. | ||
| My legit advice, by the way, when you're out on dates, ask about the other person. | ||
| Yeah, no, seriously. | ||
| They're like going out about themselves. | ||
| These are insufferable dates. | ||
| So these people are getting caught monologuing, which we know is not something good. | ||
| Insufferable. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| For a first date. | ||
| I gotta say too, I genuinely think this guy knew what was up. | ||
| He saw that email. | ||
| He's like, here's a guy. | ||
| I'm going to meet him in a bar and I'm going to tell him everything. | ||
| He did the villain head tilt. | ||
| That's so weird, right? | ||
| Yeah, but if you met someone randomly, you wouldn't think it. | ||
| But he just got that email. | ||
| He is a tweep. | ||
| Also, some of these people are just sociopaths. | ||
| They're just narcissists where they're like, yeah, I'm picking up people randomly. | ||
| I don't have anything to worry about, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Instead of, I mean, meeting organically is almost more suspect than Tinder, because Tinder, there are so many options, so many options. | ||
| I mean, essentially, this dude just walks up to you. | ||
| I mean, that's, you are targeted. | ||
| That, to me, is easier to spot. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| Do you think that Veritas has like a dossier on the Twitter employees and so they send out like a young dude to this bar and they're like, your target is this man when he pulls up the photograph and he's like, I'm gonna go on a date. | ||
| This is his type, like looked up like exes on Facebook and stuff. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then he shows up and sees him. | ||
| This sounds very fun. | ||
| It does sound fun, doesn't it? | ||
| Yeah, until you have to break their heart! | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| You guys think this is a laughing matter? | ||
| No, I would fall in love with him. | ||
| I'd fall in love with my partner. | ||
| We've already written two really funny bits we should do. | ||
| One is where it's like the teen drama where the jock dates the ugly girl because he was dared to do it. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| It's like, I thought you loved me like I do! | ||
| It's become something else. | ||
| But then the other one is the sting goes all the way to marriage. | ||
| No, I want it to go further. | ||
| I would do it where it starts with them getting married, and then the next thing is the guy's 25th wedding anniversary. | ||
| The next one is in the hospital dying with his wife he's been married to his entire life. | ||
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And then after that, it's like both of them buried in the dead. | |
| Strangely, periodically, there's different men doing work, and they're all James O'Keefe. | ||
| One day, they're like... The milkman! | ||
| Who still gets milk delivered? | ||
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Shut up, honey! | |
| Just gonna fix the cable here. | ||
| He's just like positioning his jacket. | ||
| He's like literally setting up cameras. | ||
| Like, no, it's the cable. | ||
| It's for the cable. | ||
| Dude, I'm not kidding. | ||
| We should legit do it. | ||
| One million percent. | ||
| I will stay another day to film this. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| We gotta have James fly out. | ||
| So here's another story. | ||
| This is more political. | ||
| It's kind of crazy. | ||
| It's Elon Musk again. | ||
| Newsweek reports Elon Musk says he'll vote Republican for the first time in the next election. | ||
| Elon Musk, one of us. | ||
| What's it, Google Gobble? | ||
| Google Gobble, Elon Musk. | ||
| If I see him shortly, I will tell him Google Gobble. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Do you guys know the reference? | ||
| It's from a really old movie. | ||
| Freaks? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where the woman is like at the table and all the people are going, Google Gobble. | ||
| One of us. | ||
| So, Elon Musk, he basically said, I have voted overwhelmingly for Democrats historically. | ||
| Like, I'm not sure. | ||
| I might never have voted for a Republican, just to be clear. | ||
| Now, this election, I will. | ||
| Newsweek says they're not sure if it's the midterms of the 2024 presidential election, which is a weird thing to add considering he said the next election, which is literally the midterms, but sure, whatever. | ||
| Elon Musk has continually been posting memes about either the left losing the middle, the left going too far left, or of him being like, yo, I'm a moderate and this doesn't speak to me and things like that. | ||
| It's interesting now, I tweeted, maybe the left should stop and reflect on why they're losing so many people. | ||
| They won't do it. | ||
| The responses I got were people saying like, uh, the ultra rich guy who doesn't want to pay taxes. | ||
| No, of course he wants to be a Republican. | ||
| That's why all the billionaires are constantly promoting right-wing policy. | ||
| But real quick, since 2012, as we've covered on this show extensively, Democrats have been the party of the wealthy. | ||
| It's been reiterated in 2021 with more data showing higher income earners are aligned with the Democratic Party. | ||
| Elon Musk just paid more taxes than anyone's ever paid in history. | ||
| And why didn't he vote? | ||
| Four years ago, Republican, when he was already, when he's still a billionaire. | ||
| I've seen everyone from my broke jiu-jitsu friends to people who have health podcasts over COVID, over Trump because of the Twitter wokeness, slowly go more and more to the right. | ||
| You know, people wanted me to go sort of like full right-wing actual grifter after my cancellation happened. | ||
| And I didn't do it. | ||
| And so when I talk about this stuff, I'm actually talking about it from the left. | ||
| I, as someone who is still fairly liberal, sees the left being pushed farther and farther away because it wasn't Republicans who were shutting down their businesses or gyms over COVID. | ||
| It wasn't, you know, I have friends who, they're professional athletes. | ||
| And suddenly it was Donald Trump saying to go outside and exercise and Democrats saying, if you go for a walk, you're going to, you know, kill your aunt or whatever. | ||
| All the wokeness, all my comedy friends who love Dave Chappelle, and even if they don't agree with everything Dave Chappelle says, suddenly it's the left trying to censor their favorite comedians. | ||
| God, when I was watching Chappelle in New York, he was going after Bush, going after the war in Iraq, talking about the war on drugs. | ||
| He's always been a liberal dude. | ||
| I'm watching these people go from disenfranchised, I'm sick of the left, I guess I'm not really a democrat, maybe I'm independent, to a lot of them just going, you know what? | ||
| Conservatives are cooler right now. | ||
| I'm just gonna, I'm gonna go. | ||
| I did a show in Houston and there were these three little goth kids in the front row and they were tattooed and they were like 21 or something and I asked them, I thought they were super liberal, I'm like, what's it like being liberal in Houston? | ||
| And they were like, nah, F that man. | ||
| We're conservatives. | ||
| And I was like, you look like undercover Antifa agents. | ||
| Like what is happening? | ||
| Like, yo bro, watch this PragerU video. | ||
| You're like, what? | ||
| Yeah, you want to go do DMT and talk about the free market? | ||
| Like it was that and it's like, yeah, man, we are pushing these people away. | ||
| It has nothing to do with privilege or wealth. | ||
| I'm talking to normal people. | ||
| I've lived in Arizona and Texas the last couple years. | ||
| Not in Brooklyn. | ||
| Not in Los Angeles. | ||
| And their grievances are valid. | ||
| I don't know if that would make me full conservative, but the stuff that pushed them away, I don't disagree with. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Are you sure the left is pushing them away? | ||
| Or maybe Turning Point USA is just making really good memes. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's probably it. | ||
| I gotta tell you, uh, so, so, uh, it was six months ago that I was a hardcore socialist, uh, authoritarian, uh, uh, you know, just absolutely. | ||
| And, um, I wore, I wore, uh, uniforms every day. | ||
| And then Charlie Kirk smiled at me and I was just like a bolt of lightning. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| It was another James O'Keefe setup, dude. | ||
| Why'd you let Charlie Cook smile at you like that? | ||
| They got you. | ||
| No, this is interesting because Like the left is in my opinion has gone absolutely insane | ||
| and it's exemplified in a lot of ways one I love playing this video from the juice media. It's an old | ||
| video from I Briefly thought you said from the Jew media and I was like, | ||
| well, here we go My last name is Kirsten ever calm down you're like I'm | ||
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coming here not to get canceled All right, well, let's play it hit up the Jew media | |
| everybody the juice Juice. | ||
| Juice. | ||
| Orange juice. | ||
| They do produce a lot of progressive stuff today. | ||
| But um There's this guy Hugo Ferrant. | ||
| I'm probably pronouncing your name wrong Hugo He did a thing called rap news and rap news six is about cable gate with Julian Assange in this in this video and Hell yeah. | ||
| defending the release of effectively defending the release of the cables from WikiLeaks | ||
| criticizing Hillary Clinton as the secret Terry keeping secrets in the public and threatening | ||
| to prosecute Assange because Australia is in the American empire and they control the stuff | ||
| Alex Jones is in it screaming that the globalist not a commie Nazi fascists are coming. Hell yeah. | ||
| So so that depiction of of Jones is is the 10 years ago when he was like the government is evil | ||
| and they're trying to take over now they're claiming he is a Nazi he says in the end they're | ||
| trying to turn back the clock on freedom of speech and And so I'm like, if you praise Julian Assange, say that they're trying to turn back the clock on freedom of speech, say Hillary Clinton is bad or wrong, and depict Alex Jones as someone fighting Nazis, you are right-wing. | ||
| But that video was progressive left in 2010. | ||
| Now, of course, you could say, well, that's just what happens. | ||
| Conservatives, you know, people who are progressive, eventually the whole society, culture shifts left. | ||
| And I'm like, no, no, no, no, hold on there a minute. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| No, that's a great point. | ||
| I remember, you know, in my super progressive days, being like, the Clintons are tied to Goldman, they're corporate, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Then Trump goes, they're tied to Goldman. | ||
| And it's like, well, he hates women. | ||
| What Trump left out is like, well, he's also part of the swamp, right? | ||
| Like, so is his team. | ||
| Like, they're all corporate hacks. | ||
| However, It was. | ||
| It's also true. | ||
| Like, I've been saying that about Clinton forever. | ||
| Liberals have been saying that about Clinton forever. | ||
| This is why I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. | ||
| I'm lying. | ||
| I don't buy it. | ||
| I don't believe it. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| In his first term, Trump does appoint, you know, I'll always just say Bolton, Warhawk was one of the worst ideas. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| And he had to get rid of him and Bolton betrayed him. | ||
| And there were several people that he brought on. | ||
| But I quickly then saw that Trump was whatever he is outside of that establishment order. | ||
| He was no new wars. | ||
| He was pulling our troops out of the Middle East. | ||
| And I was like, I'll take what I can get. | ||
| And if Biden's the other choice, then I'm gonna vote for Trump. | ||
| So I feel like Elon. | ||
| I feel like, wow, I guess I'm gonna vote for this guy. | ||
| But even Vox.com said Trump was moderate. | ||
| And I still, that was back in 2016, and I still was like, eh, I'm not gonna play this game. | ||
| But now, let's throw it back to what we had last night when Matt Bender was here. | ||
| I'm traditionally, like my political position is that of like a 2012 liberal Democrat, you know, probably not, I wouldn't even call it moderate or centrist. | ||
| And the argument the left says is, if you have stayed the same place from where you were 10 years ago, then of course today you're conservative because the younger generation is more progressive and that's what happens. | ||
| Like, they say things like, yeah. | ||
| And people from 1954 were like, this 1964 Civil Rights Act is too much change. | ||
| I'm just a regular person from 1954. | ||
| And I'm like, eugenicists in the 1900s and 20s also thought they were the future. | ||
| They were not. | ||
| They were wrong. | ||
| Just because you have ideas doesn't mean they're the future. | ||
| You could be wrong. | ||
| So I'll say this to the Elon thing. | ||
| I thought it was absolutely fascinating that we had on a progressive who was arguing with me. | ||
| And my position is pro-choice. | ||
| And he was like, we were so far apart in our view on abortion that he believed I was conservative. | ||
| And Seamus is the conservative pro-lifer. | ||
| You're the problem, Seamus. | ||
| I think he wanted you to be pro-life more than I want you to be pro-life. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And you want to do it for babies. | ||
| He wants to do it for Twitter. | ||
| But no, it's funny because this is something you and I have argued about a number of times on the show, the abortion issue. | ||
| Tim is not on the conservative side of the issue. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| It's the traditional liberal side. | ||
| I'm glad that you guys make Lydia be quiet during the interview. | ||
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Oh, I know. | |
| I follow her on Twitter. | ||
| I see it. | ||
| And my old woke brain is like, I can't argue with her. | ||
| She's a woman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's when you pull the woke card. | ||
| Anytime someone tries to go after your pro life, be like, uh, my body, my choice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and not to be too earnest, but the bummer of that is when I'm talking to someone, I mean, Lydia and I were talking about abortion, because that's how I small talk, before we went on air, like downstairs. | ||
| So that abortion. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| That's my first Tinder date as I'm speaking into someone's microphone, is when you have someone who is even moderately on your side, That is the time, instead of looking to pick them apart for Twitter or whatever, that's the time to actually talk about compromise. | ||
| So like, Lydia and I were talking about, and me and her are pretty far apart on this issue, but we were talking about things we agreed with, like things that kids should be taught, like access to contraception or sex ed or, you know, whatever. | ||
| If one side just goes, you want to kill women, and the other side just goes, you want to kill babies, it's like, well, there's not a ton of middle ground there. | ||
| But if you find someone who goes, you know, I'm pro-life, but yeah, in the case of rape and incest, like I'm torn, that's your opportunity to have a conversation with them. | ||
| If you have someone who goes, I'm pro-choice, but having an abortion like, man, like six months in, like, That seems kind of rough, right? | ||
| That's your chance for a pro-life person to have a conversation, and then you guys are talking, and then you can actually come up with some sort of, well, how do we stop unwanted pregnancies? | ||
| Or how do we work on that? | ||
| Because that's a solvable issue. | ||
| Or, well, I think there's a couple things, not necessarily just like stopping unwanted pregnancies. | ||
| Like, how do we find a home for children whose mothers didn't plan the pregnancy? | ||
| And then also, because one thing I would disagree with is, so I don't believe in any exceptions, but Tim and I have conversations about it pretty frequently. | ||
| I do think the conversation can be open, but there has to be a belief that you can reason with the person. | ||
| I think that's really important. | ||
| And we've kind of lost that. | ||
| And like, in some cases, It's warranted, unfortunately. | ||
| Seamus has made some good points that even in the past month, my position's shifted. | ||
| We call it the first trimester. | ||
| So Seamus mentioned, I was thinking about this earlier, you were talking about how abortion was the intentional killing of the baby. | ||
| And this was like a month or two ago. | ||
| And I was like, no, no, no, no, we're not talking about that. | ||
| We're talking about if the term pregnancy has to be ended for some reason. | ||
| And then you were saying, yes, and that abortion would mean killing the baby. | ||
| And I said, that's not true. | ||
| I was wrong. | ||
| And then, because just the other day we pulled up the CDC definition, which literally says, an abortion is a termination of a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth. | ||
| Meaning, if you would legalize abortion, post-viability, due to the pregnancy causing a risk to the pregnant patient's health, as the law read, you would be saying, terminate the pregnancy and not result in a live birth. | ||
| Why do that when you can just... I know, I don't want to get into the issue. | ||
| I want to just make the point that that was sort of like a realization for me. | ||
| So anyway, I want to stick it back to the politics because otherwise we'll just talk about abortion forever. | ||
| It was fascinating that, you know, Matt Bender is a modern leftist or, you know, progressive, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| We used to be buddies. | ||
| And he's arguing with me as though I'm not pro-choice. | ||
| Because he said that he believes a woman has the right to abort a baby at nine months, electively, for any reason. | ||
| And that's what we saw with Eric Adams recently. | ||
| Jen Psaki, I think before she left, said Joe Biden believes there should be no restrictions. | ||
| We saw it with Northam. | ||
| We saw it with Kathy Tran. | ||
| I read the bill from Colorado, which outright says there—get this—the Colorado bill not only says there can be no restrictions, it says a fetus, embryo, or fertilized egg has no rights under state law. | ||
| It gets crazier and it goes back further than people realize. | ||
| In the early 2000s, Obama as a senator voted against the Born Alive Act. | ||
| Would you say that that is the extreme version, just like these things being floated right now about making miscarriages a crime or birth control a crime? | ||
| Would that be the extreme on the other end, or would you not equate the two? | ||
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Babies. | |
| Well, I don't know anyone who's saying a miscarriage should be a crime. I haven't heard anyone argue that. | ||
| I think people will say that certain abortifacients should be, but I don't know that they're talking about birth | ||
| control in general or contraceptives in general. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Yeah, and I think, uh... | ||
| When we hear stuff like that, it's simple enough to just be like, Seamus, do you agree with that? | ||
| Do you think this is a crime? | ||
| I don't think we're not, but part of the problem is that it's like the framing bothers me because I don't know anyone. | ||
| I mean, I know a lot of pro-life people. | ||
| I don't know anyone who says like a miscarriage should be penalized. | ||
| So here's the way I see it. | ||
| It's like, okay, let's try and have a conversation. | ||
| If someone is convinced, like, I don't know, I saw this story, it said it was true. | ||
| I'd be like, okay, well, I think that's wrong. | ||
| We agree. | ||
| Well, and then I can also go, Oh, I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I saw it on Twitter. | ||
| Maybe it wasn't, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like I was even ashamed on a. | ||
| On like a pro life level. | ||
| I was sort of ashamed that I didn't really. | ||
| And again, I've never said I was an abortion expert. | ||
| I'm there, you know, feminists and whatever that know a lot more than me, but I. | ||
| There was a part of me when I started getting Republican friends and this, uh, | ||
| I just started rounding them up and this came out. | ||
| I was so used to throwing out my pro-choice tweets. | ||
| I, you know, had them locked and loaded, know the formula, blah blah blah, call Ben Shapiro short, whatever it is. | ||
| And then suddenly my feed for the first time in my life, my Twitter feed is like, yeah, well I guess they just want to kill babies. | ||
| To be honest, I don't actually have an answer to that question. | ||
| He does have me there. | ||
| And so, and then suddenly my feed for the first time in my life, my Twitter feed is | ||
| like, yeah, well, I guess I just want to kill babies. | ||
| And I was like, wait a second, I don't want to kill babies. | ||
| And I literally realized that I, I never had researched. | ||
| Like you were saying, Tim, like, I don't know. | ||
| When does it feel? | ||
| When does it? | ||
| I actually did not know the answer. | ||
| And I think again, if, if people were willing to go, I don't know, or if someone, if | ||
| If pro-life people, instead of just, we're so used to, we have to defend our stuff, we're on Twitter, we're on the news, we have to stick to our talking point. | ||
| If you can take a second to go, man, like even you said you're not for abortion in any cases, but to take that second to go, dude, I don't know what it would be like to be a woman who was raped and to have to give that baby the term. | ||
| And yeah, we should talk about it. | ||
| I'm not for it, but just, I feel like neither side will show empathy. | ||
| And that's what we need to do. | ||
| And then we can disagree and then we can talk, but probably if we're both showing empathy, we can go, okay, this person's actually a decent human who you're doing what you think is right, right? | ||
| If you think you're saving babies, then I must look like a monster, right? | ||
| If I think I'm saving women, vice versa. | ||
| I got to disagree with you on this. | ||
| The right is notorious for being memed as the debate me side, right? | ||
| Ben Shapiro, why won't you debate me? | ||
| Oh, right, right, right. | ||
| So when, if I make a YouTube video, there's the rule and the exceptions. | ||
| If I make a video and I'm like, I believe conservative policy is, or I believe policy is wrong. | ||
| Conservatives will comment and they'll make arguments at me. | ||
| If I say policy is wrong and it goes against the left, they'll call my advertisers. | ||
| They'll start contacting various companies. | ||
| I'll start getting angry emails. | ||
| I'll get death threats. | ||
| So when you say there's no empathy, Seamus and I can disagree on the issue, you know, every day. | ||
| And we laugh together and we hang out together. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| To be clear, I was saying both sides. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| I've been canceled. | ||
| Like, I know the left doesn't. | ||
| I was saying these conversations are important. | ||
| The fact that you disagree and you can still make jokes about it. | ||
| Like, that is what's important. | ||
| And it's weird that... Right, right. | ||
| What I'm saying, I disagree. | ||
| It's not both sides. | ||
| Oh, it is it is it is the rule on the left and the exception on the right the left will not tolerate deviance | ||
| the right Might not but typically will engage with what was more | ||
| likely to have a conversation with you This is why we see the Elon Musk poll. This is why | ||
| This is why Elon Musk feels the way he does. It's why so many people who watch this feel the way they do | ||
| I mean, I can't speak to your experience, but you look at not good | ||
| But people who are you're on the left and then all of a sudden they destroy you | ||
| Yeah, and then people on the right are sitting there drinking a beer like you want a beer dude | ||
| Like, tell us what happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that is actually what happened. | ||
| Yeah, I was gonna say, you said you rounded up a bunch of right-wing friends. | ||
| I think they rounded you up. | ||
| They're like, a liberal who got cancelled? | ||
| Get over here! | ||
| I was telling my friend the other day, if I wrote a book called From Feminist to Freedom Fighter, I would be a billionaire. | ||
| Just me holding the flag and a giant red pill. | ||
| I would have so much money. | ||
| You know, I'll write it at this point. | ||
| I've had enough of this. | ||
| By the way, this whiskey is very, very good. | ||
| And so strong. | ||
| I take a sip and my body is just lit for five minutes. | ||
| See, he knows whiskey. | ||
| Lauren doesn't. | ||
| She put that in a paper cup. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The only reason I'm not hammered is because they warned me about what Lauren did. | ||
| And I was like, I get it. | ||
| That's why it's next to my giant water bottle. | ||
| I'm sipping it very slowly. | ||
| Lauren was just grabbed a $1,000 bottle of whiskey and was just pouring it into a paper cup and drinking it. | ||
| And then I didn't realize it. | ||
| I looked over and I was like, Lauren, are you pouring the Pappy in the paper cup? | ||
| And she's like, what's that? | ||
| What's this? | ||
| Let's be real. | ||
| It's kind of a flex. | ||
| It's a little bit of a flex. | ||
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| Yup. | ||
| I'm like, this is this is like a special drink. | ||
| I almost drank it out of a coffee mug. | ||
| Me and Lauren are trash people. | ||
| So anyway, look. | ||
| Well, what you were saying is, you know, the Lydia and I were talking about this, too, which is one of the weirdest things that happened. | ||
| Was. | ||
| I could have made money and needed money and I didn't want to be a, you know, center-right version of the pretentious liberal that I was because that's what got me in trouble. | ||
| It was being a self-righteous, loud liberal, then I have an affair and they go, ha ha ha, you're not perfect. | ||
| You know, that was the story. | ||
| Any comic on stage who did what I did, who talked about it, especially talked about it with like regret, like, yeah, I wish I didn't do it. | ||
| It was awful. | ||
| You know, no one's getting in trouble for that. | ||
| This is what you got canceled over on the left. Yeah. | ||
| And so. | ||
| But in the feminist world, a consensual affair got called | ||
| sexual misconduct, consensual one night stands got called predatory | ||
| behavior. | ||
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And I was like, it's Remember Aziz Ansari? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He had a bad date and she was like, it was assault. | ||
| And he was like, whoa. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Woodward and Bernstein reporting of babe.net. | ||
| Is that the article you were talking about? | ||
| It was literally called babe.net. | ||
| There was like no fact checking. | ||
| I mean, there was a line in the Jezebel article written about me where it said a girl, a girl that I slept with, sorry, a woman, um, that I slept with. | ||
| Um. | ||
| Literally in the article said something along the lines of, it was the safest I felt with a man. | ||
| Something saying that when I'm with women, I treat them well. | ||
| And then said, but a week later he called me a road F on his podcast. | ||
| And then Jezebel in parentheses said, Jezebel could not find that quote. | ||
| And it's like, right. | ||
| Cause I'm not talking about smashing road poon on my feminist podcast with my wife, you psychopaths. | ||
| But they still printed that. | ||
| And that was enough. | ||
| And that headline will still come up when people are looking for me. | ||
| I mean, I've had to have... Something people don't think about with cancellations? | ||
| Like, I've lost tons of gigs. | ||
| Still, this is eight years ago. | ||
| I am a literally different man. | ||
| Every relationship I've had... Try explaining to elderly, conservative parents of your girlfriend what the MeToo movement is. | ||
| Or what an open relationship... Like, there's just weird stuff that will haunt you Always. | ||
| But I do feel like if you're meeting your girlfriend's conservative parents for the first time, and you want to explain to them cancellation, you can be like, a bunch of libs were lying about trying to cancel me. | ||
| And they'll be like, we got you. | ||
| These feminists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what? | ||
| That is probably the move I should do. | ||
| Do conservatives not ask enough questions? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
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I'm giving you a hard time because you're like, yeah, no, I got canceled by a bunch of liberals. | |
| They're like, oh, nice. | ||
| And I'm like, for what? | ||
| What happened? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| They're going to say, I get it. | ||
| They're going to say, oh, I know exactly what that is. | ||
| Be like, let me bang your daughter, and we'll drink these liberal tears together. | ||
| Because if you're like, if you Google search me, there's some bad things that come up. | ||
| They're going to go, ooh. | ||
| But if you say, a bunch of feminists got mad and started lying about me. | ||
| They'll be like, we hear you, brother. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're going to be like, you poor man. | ||
| And then the father's gonna be like, I approve of this relationship. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's my go-to excuse for anything I do wrong ever again. | ||
| Like, dude, a bunch of feminists lied about me. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Well, we have a recording of you saying that. | ||
| It was from a feminist recording. | ||
| Even with my family, my mom's like, your brother said that you did this. | ||
| I was like, there's a bunch of feminists lying about me. | ||
| Don't even worry about it. | ||
| Don't even worry about it. | ||
| You're at a Trump rally and you fart and some woman calls you out. | ||
| I'm like, there's a bunch of feminists. | ||
| She's a feminist and they're like, oh, she's lying. | ||
| Yeah, you didn't see Antifa run by, fart, and then jump into the bushes? | ||
| It was literally an Antifa super soldier fart. | ||
| So, before the show, you were asking me, like, if I had a moment where I moved or anything like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was saying, like, I'm in essentially the exact same place I've always been, except for, like, gun control. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I was moderate on gun control. | ||
| Now I'm basically a two-way absolutist, and I've even argued the Constitution guarantees the right of an individual to have nuclear weapons. | ||
| You want to change it? | ||
| It should be that way, I'm saying. | ||
| People had cannons and frigates and privateers and all that stuff. | ||
| So for me, I didn't change. | ||
| But the issue is, conservatives didn't change either. | ||
| Everybody changed a little bit. | ||
| Everybody moved a little bit to the left, actually. | ||
| You can look at data from the New York Times. | ||
| Yeah, conservatives seem way cooler with, like, gay people. | ||
| Right, like Trump unfurled an LGBT flag on stage at like the RNC or something. | ||
| Did he do it gaily, though? | ||
| That would have been the flag. | ||
| But he made a point about how, you know, the guy who, you know, shot up the nightclub, he was like, he's killing our people. | ||
| And they clapped for it. | ||
| They were like, yes, like, that's wrong. | ||
| And so there were a lot of changes that happened. | ||
| Trump being OK with gay marriage was You know how a lot of people were like, OK, like this is this is Obama and Clinton weren't OK with it. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It got passed because Biden like slipped up on the view, right? | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| So so I'm watching this this video from Rap News, Rap News number six, and pro free speech, pro Julian Assange. | ||
| And I'm like, all of these positions right now, if you watch that, you'd be a Trump supporter. | ||
| And this was back during Occupy Wall Street, like pre-Occupy Wall Street. | ||
| When they actually the rat news guys filmed at Occupy Wall Street and I'm in the video | ||
| as part of a group with anonymous and we're like yelling stuff because when I found out that they | ||
| were making the video I I I saw it on their Facebook. You started spitting bars. I know I | ||
| was like let me in let me in like dude I love this stuff I want to be I want to be in so I'm | ||
| I'm just like an extra in it yeah as we're all like chanting or whatever but if you follow them | ||
| if you believed in what they believed back then you would be a Trump supporter today. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I can't remember who made this point, but it was one of our guests. | ||
| And they said, do you think anyone who was in a coma for 10 years and then woke up today would go, Oh my gosh, things have gotten so far to the right. | ||
| Like, do you think they'd read the newspaper and see current events and go, Oh my goodness, this country is so conservative now. | ||
| I, I have, uh, I'll try and keep as much information private as possible, but there are certain individuals of moderate prominence who were, let's just say, indisposed for a few years during the Trump administration. | ||
| And when they came out, they were politically homeless and confused because the left was not the left anymore. | ||
| So I used to hang out with a ton of people in the hacker community back pre-Occupy Wall Street. | ||
| Can they help my Google search if they're listening to this? | ||
| I mean, yes, they can. | ||
| You guys shoot me a DM, please. | ||
| These are like reputation management firms these days and all this stuff. | ||
| So my hacker friends were pro-free speech, pro-edgy comedy. | ||
| They were very, very into super offensive internet posts, trolling, goatee stuff, shock content, lemon party, all those really awful things. | ||
| Don't let your kids go look up. | ||
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Don't do it. | |
| Something happened. | ||
| Tell the kids about it and tell them don't look so there there are certain people like they'll pay the price Certain hackers who end up going to prison. | ||
| Yeah with a limited access to news and the internet culture Yeah, they come out and then all of a sudden they're like, all right Where's the left and they're like we don't like free speech anymore and they're like what? | ||
| And like all the things you used to say and do that we were friends with you for if you do now We will punish you I mean, Louis J. Gomez, the Legion of Skanks guys were called Proud Boys. | ||
| Louis J. Gomez, who is Puerto Rican. | ||
| They're some of the funniest comedians in the world. | ||
| And I did shows with them a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| And their audience is if you just follow Twitter, you would assume it's an audience of Nazis and their audience is diverse. | ||
| They are sweet. | ||
| They just like good comedy. | ||
| But now, yeah, your friends get out of jail. | ||
| And Ben Shapiro is the only one defending Dave Chappelle, where the right has suddenly taken on Dave Chappelle. | ||
| and the left is it's just again isolating and alienating comedy fans now i will say on the other side and i think this doesn't have to do with left or right it's just tribalism in general i remember something that really disappointed me Was I went on a bunch of right wing shows and I stayed liberal. | ||
| You know, I went on Glenn Beck's. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| We disagreed with some stuff, but I got to talk about Palestine on Glenn Beck show. | ||
| That's dope. | ||
| And we mainly talked about tribalism and I did a bunch of other right wing shows. | ||
| And again, you're a grifter if I go on a right-wing show and I start saying things I don't believe in for money, right? | ||
| If I go on Glenn Beck's and I'm like, yeah, we can build a wall and it's just stuff I don't believe in. | ||
| But I was still myself. | ||
| So I get like hundreds of new followers and a bunch of people saying the equivalent of, I don't agree with you, but I like that you're trying to bring people together, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Then George Floyd gets killed and I start posting A bunch of don't kill black people. | ||
| Nothing crazy. | ||
| I don't preachy Jamie. | ||
| Just don't kill black people. | ||
| And which again, even Trump and Pence ended up saying that that was bad, right? | ||
| And I remember people even on my Instagram, which is usually less of a cesspool than Twitter. | ||
| We're like, ah, looks like feminist cuck. | ||
| Jamie's back. | ||
| Here we go with lib stuff. | ||
| And the fact that I got canceled by some fake feminists. | ||
| implies that I have to be pro George Floyd being killed. | ||
| Like that's why I think tribalism is the problem. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And right now the left is doing it worse than the right, but it still | ||
| happens on both sides where don't don't pretend you are above my politics | ||
| and think I'm a good guy. | ||
| And just while I can be used as a prop, of course. | ||
| Where you can just point to me and be like, oh, look at that guy. | ||
| He's anti-woke. | ||
| He got screwed over by whatever. | ||
| I'm like, I don't want to be anyone's prop. | ||
| I can still have these thoughts that sometimes conservatives will disagree with, sometimes liberals will disagree with. | ||
| That's why I think it's the rule for the left, the exception for the right in terms of that animosity. | ||
| The left is very tribal. | ||
| If you deviate on one thing, boom, you're right wing. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| The right, you'll certainly have people, you know, people posted me and stuff all the time as well. | ||
| But for the most part, they might yell at you, but that's about it. | ||
| They're not gonna call your boss. | ||
| Yeah, do you think a lot of it's just Twitter in general? | ||
| Because when I meet liberal people at the gym, or on a date, or conservative people, I think actually more people than we think feel the exact same way we're talking. | ||
| You just get the lunatics on both sides on Twitter. | ||
| No, they're just trying to get info out of you because they work for Veritas. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
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I knew it! | |
| Sorry, dude. | ||
| But we met organically! | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| The right wing lunatics aren't on Twitter. | ||
| They're all banned. | ||
| That's actually a good point. | ||
| You're seeing the sanitized conservative movement on Twitter. | ||
| And you're seeing the fringe of the left on Twitter. | ||
| So this was bad for Democrats. | ||
| And I warned about this like three, four years ago. | ||
| I put it this way. | ||
| You see two little boys with an adult woman and she's got two little boys with her. | ||
| One's just drenched in dirt and chocolate and ice cream and he's all messy looking. | ||
| The other kid is perfect and clean with a smile on his face. | ||
| And from the outset you say, okay, that kid is a disaster. | ||
| He's messy and that other kid is clean and responsible. | ||
| But the reality is, the mother just doesn't let the clean kid have ice cream. | ||
| So the kid who's allowed to have ice cream makes a mess, and the kid who's not allowed to have it doesn't have the opportunity to make a mess. | ||
| When Twitter started suspending bad voices, or voices they thought were bad on the right, they were making it so that the most prominent conservative people on Twitter were Ben Shapiro. | ||
| You know, a practical, logical, moderate conservative guy. | ||
| Or I should say, traditional conservative. | ||
| And then the left is antifa saying burn it down and threatening death. | ||
| So a regular person goes on and says, Oh, that's a little too much. | ||
| This, this, this allows Twitter, allowing the left to say and do crazy things, radicalizes people. | ||
| It generates, it charges up the engine, but people on the right are like, I don't want to get banned. | ||
| So I'm not going to say that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's actually making people on the right, try and dress up and get clean. | ||
| And the left is running amok, smashing windows and looking stupid. | ||
| Which is so funny because whenever my argument for when people would equate the extremes on both sides is I was like, oh, what, the left wants you to have like too much health care or wants to end all the war. | ||
| But yeah, when you start advocating violence, it's like, well, no, that's that's who we're talking about. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so this is an argument that people on the far left are still making. | ||
| So I saw this the other day when the far left was referred to. | ||
| There were all sorts of lefties. | ||
| Oh, what does far left mean? | ||
| They really want universal health care? | ||
| And I was like, dude, the positions you're describing all apply to Tim Pool, but he's called far right. | ||
| It's like, well, obviously we're talking about the far left. | ||
| We're talking a lot about the social issues. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, policy wise, I think I would not compare universal health care to bombing Iraq and But then again, you have Democrats who are also droning wet | ||
| every Democrat voted to fund one of the largest war packages in history | ||
| If you crank the rest, oh, it's like what six times what anyone else in Europe has paid we put in 54 billion dollars | ||
| Every Democrat even the squad. Yeah, so, you know man that that is | ||
| It's funny when we have a debate or argument with you know Matt on abortion and I'm like this has never been a really | ||
| big issue for me because for one I'm not a woman I I'm not a legal, moral, theological scholar. | ||
| I had a conversation with Glenn Beck and ultimately I ended with like, man, I really just don't know. | ||
| I just feel like there's a barrier for me and I can't really... I don't have the answers. | ||
| That should be the answer. | ||
| But war. | ||
| This one's always been very clear-cut for me, and I know a decent amount about what we do, why we do it, why we want to enforce the petrodollar. | ||
| I bring up all the time the Qatar Turkey pipeline, Gazprom, all this stuff, and I'm like, it is bad that we are doing these things. | ||
| If you can go from being, you're like, I'm on the left, and I'm like, okay, and you're the anti-war party. | ||
| And then you vote for Joe Biden. | ||
| I'm going to look at you and say, huh? | ||
| And then when Joe Biden's like, come on, give me the biggest war package in history. | ||
| You're like, okay. | ||
| I'm like, he's folksy. | ||
| Progressives are pro war. | ||
| Progressives are pro war. | ||
| Liberals are pro war. | ||
| Democrats are pro war and half the Republicans are pro war. | ||
| I mean I discovered this I got in a lot of trouble the one time and only time I went on the Conan O'Brien show because I talked all about drone strikes but I did not talk all about drone strikes under Bush. | ||
| Bush is when I started talking about war but Obama was still using drones so it was under Obama. | ||
| And it was me and Kobe Bryant were the only other guests. | ||
| So not exactly like my audience tuning in. | ||
| And if you watch the clip, the clip's probably still on YouTube. | ||
| It goes well with the audience. | ||
| But I was told it was the most complaints they've gotten. | ||
| And that's why my belief has always been just principles of a party. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| If you're anti-war, be anti-war under Bush, be anti-war under Obama, be anti-war under Trump, be anti-war under Biden. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| But the fact that there's such cognitive dissonance and not only will suddenly they be pro-war, But then they're just getting defensive and they're acting like you're a monster for criticizing Biden or that Susan Sarandon's the reason Roe v. Wade's being overturned. | ||
| It's absolute insanity. | ||
| I'm going to cut them some slack and say, maybe it's not Joe Biden. | ||
| So maybe voting for him, it's not really the problem. | ||
| I'm kidding, by the way, but now I'm going to reference this story from Fox Business. | ||
| Elon Musk slams Biden. | ||
| The real president is whoever controls the teleprompter. | ||
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| Musk also warned that the US ignores obvious cause of inflation. | ||
| It could end up like Venezuela. | ||
| And he went on to say that someone could bump the teleprompter and then | ||
| Biden would just read it like Ron Burgundy. | ||
| So what I'm going to say is we can't blame those who are supporting Joe Biden | ||
| because Joe Biden isn't the president. | ||
| Whoever controls the teleprompter is. | ||
| But well, if you put Joe Biden there and he is being directed by somebody else, | ||
| then you voted for this. | ||
| You voted for the war. | ||
| Can we all talk about my favorite part of that story was it was on Fox news, uh, | ||
| before the show and the Fox news anchor had to essentially explain what the movie | ||
| He's like, it is a satirical line from a comedy movie where laughter ensues. | ||
| Well, you know, the average, uh, I think what's the average age of Fox News viewers? | ||
| My grandma? | ||
| 62 or something. | ||
| What's the, what's the Ron Burgundy? | ||
| They anchor my show. | ||
| It's a comedy movie. | ||
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| Shout out to my grandma who sent me a happy birthday text. | ||
| I did not have her saved in my phone. | ||
| But this, but we got toxic family stuff. | ||
| Because I guess the whole show today is just like literally Elon Musk's daily business. | ||
| Dude, he's just. | ||
| Loving life right now. | ||
| Yeah, it's great isn't it? | ||
| I gotta I gotta look I gotta I gotta throw back to this one because while we're doing the show he responded to Benny Johnson who tweeted about the guy saying wokeness hurt cost that money and he made the like What is it like a depressed sad face? | ||
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| The guy insulted him for having Asperger's. | ||
| I think James O'Keefe may have just saved Elon Musk like 10 billion dollars. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Maybe 20 billion dollars. | ||
| These videos coming out right now, I believe, I'm not a lawyer, but it sounds like it could give Elon Musk an actual legal argument as to negotiating a lower price, or even having the contract be broken, no fee. | ||
| So if Elon breaks the Twitter buyout contract, he's gotta pay a billion dollars. | ||
| If Twitter breaks the contract, they gotta pay him a billion dollars. | ||
| With these videos coming out, Elon's clearly seen them both, He can probably go to a court and say, they did not disclose to me these things. | ||
| Elon's kind of made Twitter fun again. | ||
| Yeah, yes. | ||
| It's like almost like Trump. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Man, Twitter was so fun under Trump. | ||
| When people even, I mean, I was not a Trump supporter. | ||
| I was still pretty progressive. | ||
| But if you are really going to look me in the eye and say when the Democratic debate was going on and Trump just tweeted, Boring, and all that. | ||
| That wasn't the funniest thing in the world. | ||
| You're a liar. | ||
| You are a liar. | ||
| Well, I mean, Covfefe. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's got its own Wikipedia entry. | ||
| And it said, despite the negative press, Covfefe. | ||
| And I think they were right, despite the negative press coverage, but then mashed it with their thumb and accidentally sent it. | ||
| Or like put it in their pocket and it went off. | ||
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| Something happened and we got the word Covfefe. | ||
| Just delightful. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| Was it Michael Malice? | ||
| Or am I misremembering? | ||
| Who said something like, congratulations to all the former Trump reply guys who can be Elon Musk reply guys now? | ||
| That's very funny. | ||
| That sounds like a Malice thing, but I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I wonder if the Elon Musk deal will actually end up going through now. | ||
| Yeah, kind of crazy. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe he put Project Veritas up to this so he could get out of it. | ||
| He's like, this is a mess. | ||
| I don't want any part of it. | ||
| I woke up and he was like, don't say it. | ||
| So then in the skit, James takes his mask off and it's Elon the whole time. | ||
| It's Elon, yep. | ||
| No, I think it's fascinating though. | ||
| I wonder if... I mean, clearly this email went out. | ||
| It looks like Veritas targeted Twitter employees recently. | ||
| You know, it was the end of April, beginning of May. | ||
| All this was going down. | ||
| So it seems like... | ||
| Elon Musk might save billions of dollars thanks to the journalism of Project Veritas. | ||
| Have you met O'Keefe? | ||
| Yeah, we've had him on shows several times. | ||
| What's his deal? | ||
| Chill dude? | ||
| Yeah, chill dude. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| Loves musicals. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Well, turns out I'll get along with him. | ||
| What was the musical he did? | ||
| Oklahoma. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| He was like the main dude, wasn't he? | ||
| I think he was just doing an undercover operation. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| Anytime, that's the thing, anytime he does anything that he could consider embarrassing, he's like, it was an operation. | ||
| It was an operation. | ||
| He just bust in after I got so excited and so gaily was like, he did? | ||
| Oklahoma? | ||
| That's my favorite! | ||
| They're like, busted. | ||
| He's like, actually, a bunch of feminists were mad about me. | ||
| They spread that rumor. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| I was never in Oklahoma. | ||
| No, James is great. | ||
| Yeah, he loves to sing and dance. | ||
| He loves Phil Collins. | ||
| He's fantastic. | ||
| All right, well, time to do some research on old James O'Keefe when I get home. | ||
| Literally, the skit would be literally everything he does is a sting. | ||
| So he's at like a supermarket and he's like looking shifty-eyed as he like grabs a box of Lucky Charms and like puts in his... Why Lucky Charms, huh? | ||
| You know why. | ||
| You all know why. | ||
| It's because you left a box of Lucky Charms in there. | ||
| I did leave, I'm not gonna lie, I did leave a box of Lucky Charms in there. | ||
| Yeah, it was sent by a fan. | ||
| It was sent by a fan. | ||
| It was sent by a fan, to be fair. | ||
| So, uh, I wasn't opposed to it. | ||
| Elon Musk is criticizing Joe Biden and I don't, I don't, I don't know what else to say other than he's, uh, I, I won. | ||
| Well, I was going to say something, um, back to what you were asking me with the cancellation and, I also do wonder if Elon with the I'm gonna vote Republican is either trolling, because you don't know who you're voting for, there are horrible Republicans, or there's also part where | ||
| I remember when I did start to go on the right wing shows and, you know, five people on Twitter were like, Oh, here we go. | ||
| Here comes grifter. | ||
| He's going to go all Dave Rubin and become super conservative or whatever. | ||
| And for me, I didn't because, I mean, I thought about it. | ||
| I was like, maybe I am conservative. | ||
| And then I did watch a Ben Shapiro video and I was like, ah, damn it. | ||
| But he did destroy you yeah, you're like I got destroyed is that for me Do I have what you were GOP curious? | ||
| I was Europe you like turn the lights real low you got under the covers you put on bench up here like that's literally I mean the first time I heard Jordan Peterson I thought he was just gonna be screaming to kill trans people and I was like, okay Okay, my heart was racing. | ||
| I was I'm gonna watch the Rogan and he was like make your bed And I was like, I should make my bed. | ||
| He's like, I don't like large women But I I also remember having this moment and maybe this sounds pathetic but whatever when I walked into some of those offices and having And this was, you know, I had girlfriends, but I hadn't really jumped back into a social circle. | ||
| I wasn't doing comedy. | ||
| I was kind of doing jujitsu. | ||
| But going into these offices and having everyone know me, hug me, not shame me. | ||
| Women, like hosts of the show, put their hands on my shoulder and be like, I'm sorry what happened to you, sweetie. | ||
| I'm like, sorry what happened to me, but I'm the bad person. | ||
| I'm the monster. | ||
| There is something about when a pile on happens and then the other side is just kind to you. | ||
| And sometimes with an agenda, but sometimes just because I know a lot | ||
| of really nice conservatives. | ||
| I mean, I've had conservatives put me up when I was homeless and we agree on nothing. | ||
| Whereas all of my Brooklyn woke friends didn't call. | ||
| Are you telling me they don't care about the homeless? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Or are you telling me you need a place to stay? | ||
| You're trying to blackmail me here! | ||
| They care about the homeless because they have to move them to gentrify the black parts of town to get more Starbucks and maca cafes or whatever. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Occupy Wall Street. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was physically threatened numerous occasions. | ||
| I was physically attacked three different times, you know, during marches or at the park. | ||
| And then I see a bunch of, you know, Trump supporters, you know, people with shields, waving flags. | ||
| I walk over and they're like you want to grab a bite and talk. | ||
| And it's just like, look, man, I don't have to agree with with the conservatives, | ||
| but if they're willing to sit down and have a burger and say, well, I disagree. | ||
| Let's have a nice day. Right. | ||
| Well, the other side is like we brought crowbars. Right. | ||
| Well, I'll take it. I'll take a step further. | ||
| When I went on, it's called the Real Ass Podcast. | ||
| Louis J. Gomez, who from Legion of Skanks, his podcast again, | ||
| he has been called a proud boy. | ||
| There was a gay comic on and the gay comic was like asked him about his use of the F word. | ||
| The other F word. | ||
| And Lewis was like, look, I've said it forever. | ||
| I've never said it towards a gay person. | ||
| It's just the way I came up with comedy. | ||
| But I tell young comics, you know, don't say it. | ||
| I wouldn't say it. | ||
| And most importantly, and I know Lewis very well. | ||
| And this is I can vouch for this. | ||
| He's like, if I ever saw a gay person being called that, I would step in and I would do something about it to the guy | ||
| who's being homophobic. | ||
| Whereas any one of my old lefty friends, if they saw a gay person getting beat up, they would run away to the nearest | ||
| Starbucks to maybe tweet about it. | ||
| Yeah, they would write a blog post about it for sure. | ||
| I was in Portland. | ||
| Proud Boys were marching. | ||
| They planned March. | ||
| Antifa decided to counter march and confront them. | ||
| The police had to separate the two groups. | ||
| The Proud Boys started marching. | ||
| Proud Boys group was, you know, people of different races were there. I think it was mostly white people probably. | ||
| And we got to this point where all of a sudden Antifa started yelling racial slurs at the black Proud Boys. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. And there's videos of Antifa yelling racial slurs at police. | ||
| There's a black cop and they're yelling just racial slurs at him. | ||
| So they start yelling a racial slur at this black proud boy. | ||
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| And so he breaks from the crowd and starts going across the street. | ||
| And they're yelling slurs. I think they're yelling the n-word. | ||
| I think they're yelling, uh, uncle, you know, I don't want to say it, I don't want to entertain it. | ||
| But they were yelling like the n-word and other words, the c-word, whatever. | ||
| He goes across the street, another proud boy runs up to him and grabs him and says, | ||
| Don't listen to them. | ||
| And then he grabs him and says, don't let him, don't let him make you hate, man. | ||
| You're my brother. | ||
| We're here together, man. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| We care about you. | ||
| And then they put their hands together and it's like, let's get to it. | ||
| Let's, let's, let's stay focused. | ||
| And they, and they brought him back in. | ||
| There's a video. | ||
| It was an, uh, uh, an ice protest and Antifa's outside. | ||
| And they're just screaming the N word at these black cops. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Yo, man. | ||
| Bad looks. | ||
| Occupy Wall Street segregated people based on race. | ||
| You're in the caucus voting system where they would be like, okay, everyone got a working group or a caucus. | ||
| Your working group was the work you did. | ||
| The caucus was your race or gender or identity or whatever. | ||
| They had the Black Caucus, the Asian Caucus, Latino Caucus. | ||
| So you literally were voting on resources based on your racial group. | ||
| Well, and I remember even With Ferguson and some of the Black Lives Matter protests, there were also black people stopping other, I mean, a lot of times white BLM marchers from vandalizing or from, and it should show you that if you are on the right and think everyone who has marched for Black Lives Matter is evil, no, there are really good people who would do the exact same thing. | ||
| If you think that there are proud boys who are all violent, no, there are people who will do, The right thing. | ||
| And again, if those voices were the ones that would be highlighted more instead of the fringes, we would actually probably agree on more than we think we would. | ||
| We'll do a ridiculous segue and we'll talk about Dr. Peterson. | ||
| I have been so excited about this. | ||
| So I had to respond to Jordan Peterson. | ||
| The New York Post reports, sports illustrated swimsuit cover model critic Jordan Peterson quits Twitter after backlash. | ||
| Bye for now. | ||
| I told Lydia his away message should have just said no fatties. | ||
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| So there's a New York Post posted this morbidly obese woman on the cover of Sports Illustrated and | ||
| Dr. Jordan Peterson said sorry not beautiful and no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that I | ||
| I thought it was really funny I thought it was sweet. | ||
| And I think him deciding, you know, Jordan, I think he's great. | ||
| I'm a big fan. | ||
| I think him deciding to get away from Twitter for a little bit is probably a good idea. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Seamus, put it well, you said... Oh, just about picking your battles. | ||
| Choose your battles, man. | ||
| There's something in that. | ||
| I kind of feel like when you're swimming in the swamp for too long... Actually, there's a better way to put it. | ||
| Be careful when fighting monsters, lest you become one. | ||
| For when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes back. | ||
| Peterson would know that. | ||
| And so, when I saw this, I kind of felt like... Are you calling fat people monsters? | ||
| Just to be clear. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| Timothy. | ||
| Jordan Peterson was staring at him. | ||
| If you came here, cancel him. | ||
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Monsters. | |
| Where's the camera? | ||
| No, I kind of feel like... Here's the issue. | ||
| Let me show you these photographs. | ||
| Here's Cosmo we've mentioned before. | ||
| This is healthy. | ||
| It's a morbidly obese woman. | ||
| Here's another morbidly obese woman who says, this is healthy. | ||
| I think these are awful. | ||
| I think these are dangerous. | ||
| I think they're wrong. | ||
| I think you should not encourage people to be unhealthy. | ||
| Obesity can cause cancer. | ||
| There was a big row in the UK because there was an ad that was put up that said the number, I think it was like the number one cause or like number two cause of cancer or something. | ||
| And it was obesity. | ||
| You had to guess the letter and people were like, this is fat shaming. | ||
| So they also had the beach body ad of like beautiful men taking down our place of fat women. | ||
| I'm like, that I can understand when they're trying to encourage. | ||
| This is a cover of Sports Illustrated. | ||
| They put a fat chick on it. | ||
| My response was, yo, Dr. Peterson, some guys like fat chicks. | ||
| Like, let them have their day. | ||
| That was my favorite take, dude. | ||
| But also it's like the fact that the argument went from don't sexually objectify women to like, make sure you're more inclusive with your sexual objectification. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's literally where the left went like no the larger women should be objectified as well my favorite | ||
| My favorite part of the day was after you tweeted that imagining all my old liberal friends being like oh no | ||
| Do I be mad at Tim pool or Jordan Peterson? | ||
| Pick a side just heads exploding everywhere. You know you know it's funny. It's how it works on Twitter as if | ||
| They they don't see the things I tweet unless someone screen grabs it and the only reason they'll screen grab it | ||
| is if they can Mock it sure so when there are tweets where I'm just like | ||
| yeah I let let you know some people like fat chicks like so | ||
| funny. Let them have their day You know I mean, I was just like I'm not look | ||
| Say encouraging it saying it's healthy partly They're partly encouraging it. | ||
| They're putting on the cover of magazines. | ||
| But I'm also just like, I'm not too concerned about them showing a morbidly obese woman on the cover of Sports Illustrated, but I do have questions. | ||
| And so, the one thing I would say is, if Jordan Peterson criticized it, Yeah. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| be total agreement and we were talking about it. What he said was authoritarian tolerance, | ||
| not beautiful. It was like taking a sledgehammer to a wood nail or something. | ||
| And then it was so easy because then everyone just started posting sad pictures of Jordan | ||
| Peterson. I was saying, I mean, he could have just maybe texted a slightly cuter member | ||
| of the intellectual dark web, just shot Sam Harris and be like, hey, can you post this? | ||
| Sam's got dreamy eyes. I don't know. I mean, I agree with you on the health thing. I don't | ||
| know. When I taught you jiu jitsu, I've I've had a lot of people come to me because they | ||
| were overweight and they were really sad about it and they were embarrassed about it. And | ||
| I haven't talked about this publicly recently. | ||
| I wrote about it like a decade ago, but I've struggled with binge eating. | ||
| I mean, you would call it an eating disorder. | ||
| If it was a woman, you would say, I have an eating disorder. | ||
| Food issues are hard, man, and at the times I've been overweight, I've hated myself, and I still have body dysmorphia even though I train every day. | ||
| And, but what you're saying about health is so important. | ||
| Number one, if you just, quote unquote, if you actually fat shame people, not what the left say is fat shaming. | ||
| If you actually fat shame people, that's not going to help them. | ||
| Right? | ||
| If I see someone down the street, I'm like, Hey fatty or whatever. | ||
| They're not going to be like, Oh, I better get to a jujitsu class. | ||
| They're going to hate themselves more. | ||
| And by the way, same with me. | ||
| But Seamus would laugh and then high five you. | ||
| And that would feel really good. | ||
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Why are you making this about me? | |
| You'd be like, yeah! | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| What have I ever indicated? | ||
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That would be my response to someone heckling a stranger. | |
| The craziest fat-shaming story I have when I had the old progressive podcast, and I told | ||
| this on a Rogan I think, but it still horrifies me, is there was a dude who wrote in and he | ||
| said his doctor said, yeah, same deal, morbidly obese, essentially said he's going to die. | ||
| And he had kids and was like, I don't know what to do. | ||
| So I wrote him an email, I sent him a bunch of healthy recipes, I found him a jujitsu | ||
| place. | ||
| I actually emailed Tim Spriggs, who ran the jujitsu school, he was like, oh, I remember | ||
| that guy. | ||
| Six months later, eight months later, whatever it is, he writes into the show and he goes, | ||
| hey, dude, my doctor just said he's never seen such a quick turnaround before. | ||
| My kids are so proud of me and I'm entering my first white belt jujitsu competition. | ||
| Now Lydia, you're reacting like a normal human being. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We got six to ten emails the next day saying by reading that email we were fat shaming them. | ||
| And that's when I go and I was still in my most progressive most woke. | ||
| I was like you would rather this dude die and orphan his kids than temporarily feel bad about yourself and maybe let that inspire you. | ||
| I'm not saying if you don't do jujitsu you're a Fatty. | ||
| I'm not saying it's a totalitarian or whatever. | ||
| Authoritarian. | ||
| Don't do jiu-jitsu! | ||
| Not beautiful! | ||
| Seamus, you're fatty unless you do jiu-jitsu. | ||
| But can I ask you something? | ||
| Would it be helpful if you had a personal trainer who was like, you are going to be an authoritarian fatty. | ||
| You need to lose the weight. | ||
| Make this app. | ||
| Make the Jordan Peterson weight loss app. | ||
| That's another sketch. | ||
| I said clean your room, not your plate. | ||
| Oh my gosh, I love that. | ||
| That's so good. | ||
| Just a bunch of lobsters going, shame, shame, shame, shame. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Can I just say before we move on, this was my red pill when I was 11 years old. | ||
| I looked at the healthy at every size move and I was like, these ladies are not healthy. | ||
| And I want to say there are two things here. | ||
| One is subjective. | ||
| That is beauty. | ||
| You and everyone else is welcome to think that this lady is beautiful. | ||
| She's very pretty. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| She's solid lady. | ||
| Chunky queen. | ||
| She is a chunky queen. | ||
| She is thick with three C's and I, there's no problem with that. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| However, the other is the objective. | ||
| And this is what I was seeing when I was 11. | ||
| I was like, dude, these ladies are not healthy. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| This lady is not athletic. | ||
| I'm not sure why she's on the cover of Sports Illustrated. | ||
| I don't think she plays a sport other than, I don't know. | ||
| Hot dog eating contest. | ||
| Yes, thank you, Joey. | ||
| I tried to do a straight face. | ||
| The eye contact you two made before that line came out was beautiful. | ||
| But anyway, it's like she's not healthy and I know this isn't gonna be good for her down the line. | ||
| Now Tess Holliday really troubles me because she's literally like four... Tim is just cracking up over here. | ||
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I'm just imagining Sports Illustrated doing like the 12th annual hot tub eating contest. | |
| I see it. | ||
| No, don't predict the future. | ||
| Stop this. | ||
| Stop this. | ||
| It's not okay. | ||
| Tess Holliday is like 400 pounds. | ||
| She's like, I'm so proud of myself. | ||
| I'm so healthy. | ||
| I'm like, B word. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| You absolutely aren't. | ||
| Like I don't want anyone to hate themselves, right? | ||
| Like I don't, it's sad. | ||
| It's sad to think of someone hating themself because they're fat. | ||
| And there are a lot of people I'm sure even listening to this show who | ||
| spiral about that, but it's, but it's, it's worse to hate yourself | ||
| so much that you end up in denial. | ||
| And you're, it's the same as when you tell your friends, Hey, I'm | ||
| Cause you have a drinking problem and your other friends are drinking problems. | ||
| You're like, well, is your problem that you're a little bitch? | ||
| And they're trying to get you to keep drinking. | ||
| It's like, bro, if I'm an alcoholic and you are pushing me to do it so you can feel better about, you know, drinking on the weekends. | ||
| Cause you don't want to see your wife and little spite kids. | ||
| Then it's like, that's on you. | ||
| Like that's messed up. | ||
| I'm legit thinking that the future of sports illustrated is going to be a whole bunch of really messed up stuff. | ||
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| What's that morbidly obese woman's clothing store? | ||
| Torrid. | ||
| They have mannequins that are morbidly obese. | ||
| Do they just tie five other mannequins together? | ||
| I don't know if we can get trouble on YouTube for saying that. | ||
| Mannequin shaming? | ||
| There's a conspiracy theory. | ||
| You know the Dove Real Beauty campaign? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know who owns Dove? | ||
| What's the parent company of Dove? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's Unilever. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Unilever owns another brand. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Ben & Jerry's. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So there was a conspiracy theory that they were, you know, at a higher level were looking at like, we want women to eat more ice cream. | ||
| I was wondering why the woman in the shower using Dove was eating Cherry Garcia. | ||
| So, I'm pretty sure... There's like a meme about it. | ||
| But I mean, it makes sense. | ||
| If you're in a business, and you're like, we want to sell soap to women, and we also want to sell ice cream, but all these super thin models are making people not want to buy ice cream, put the fat women in the soap commercial, and the women will be like, that's like me, and they'll eat ice cream. | ||
| And then Sports Illustrated will have ice cream eating contests in their magazine. | ||
| What I mean is, if the average woman is obese, then Sports Illustrated is going to start putting more and more obese women on the cover. | ||
| So with the body positivity thing, I want to sort of piggyback on something Lydia said. | ||
| I actually, I don't agree with the idea that beauty is subjective. | ||
| I do believe it's objective. | ||
| There are some elements of our like experience of it, which is subjective. | ||
| Stop hitting on me. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But my problem is that, you know, what the body positivity could have been a fact | ||
| movement could have been effective at is saying something like, look, | ||
| not everyone is physically beautiful in the same way, but just because someone isn't beautiful, doesn't give you | ||
| the right to treat them poorly. | ||
| because a person's value is... | ||
| Is not limited to their physical appearance and someone shouldn't be treated poorly because they don't look good And so instead they decided to say actually Everyone looks good wait when what did that do that solidified this idea that actually? | ||
| Appearance is what gives you your value because we if we tell you you don't look good Then we are telling you you're worthless because that's what we believe so we just have to instead of Challenging our understanding of what beauty means we have to say no no everyone's beautiful that way we can say everyone means something instead Instead of acknowledging that, beauty is not the only measure of a person's value. | ||
| A quick fact check. | ||
| Quick fact check. | ||
| We have here the Dove Real Beauty Campaign, which was average to obese women, and I think they even had some amputees. | ||
| Ben and Jerry's. | ||
| Parent. | ||
| Unilever. | ||
| Dove. | ||
| Owner. | ||
| Unilever. | ||
| Conspiracy confirmed! | ||
| Oh boy, it's happening. | ||
| What I was going to say... | ||
| I love what you just said. | ||
| And also the times, even when I've been struggling, whether it's with depression, suicidal ideation, binge eating, whatever it is, the times where someone actually made me feel good about myself is when I would lock in and want to double down. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The times where I would just go, you know what? | ||
| I'm a fat piece of garbage. | ||
| Well then what does a fat piece of garbage do? | ||
| He certainly doesn't train the next day. | ||
| He feels bad. | ||
| He's got to fill the sad hole in his heart. | ||
| So he starts eating more food or you just go, well, this is what | ||
| everyone thinks I am anyway. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So sports illustrated, you actually have this opportunity to do | ||
| something like what you said, but then also write an article about, Hey, | ||
| you don't think you're an athlete. | ||
| Have you tried these kind of sports? | ||
| Have you tried skateboarding? | ||
| Have you tried Jiu Jitsu? | ||
| Have you tried something? | ||
| I failed gym class, literally failed gym class in high school. | ||
| I'll tell you how you get stoned every day and pretend you don't have your shorts. | ||
| And then I found Jiu Jitsu at 17 and I was like, I always wanted to learn how to fight because I grew up watching cheesy martial arts movies and I fell in love with Jiu Jitsu and accidentally became an athlete because I found something I loved. | ||
| You can help people. | ||
| You said you felt so much better. | ||
| So did you give up sugar? | ||
| Cut out bread and sugar. | ||
| A heaping spoonful of almond flour. | ||
| A heaping spoonful of walnut flour. | ||
| One egg. | ||
| Mix it up. | ||
| Microwave for one minute. | ||
| Boom, you got a keto biscuit. | ||
| Then I cut it and I put cheese, egg, and bacon on it. | ||
| And that's breakfast. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| That actually sounds really good. | ||
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| You know, I think the issue is when you're younger, you need a bit more food, especially if you're athletic. | ||
| For me, one of the issues was I used to eat like 8,000 calories per day because I would skate for eight hours a day. | ||
| And so it was just a machine. | ||
| When I got older and started skating less and doing news and stuff more, I still had the habits of eating big meals. | ||
| And then, you know, I gained weight from it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So now I'm like, I still skate a lot. | ||
| But it's remarkable that in the past, yo, bro, it's remarkable how little I eat relative to what I was eating last year. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And you probably feel great. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| When I'm eating unhealthy, sure, I could say, you know, I love my beer good. | ||
| I love my whatever. | ||
| But I don't feel well and I get depressed and I sleep later, which means I don't go to the gym. | ||
| And the times where I'm training and the times where I'm eating healthy, I feel good and you want people to feel good and again it's you don't have to say not beautiful but man you can also encourage people to be healthy because you want them to feel good you don't want them to be depressed the times I'm eating like crap the times I'm overweight it absolutely ties into my depression it's horrible | ||
| Yeah, well, and no one really openly says this, right? | ||
| They'll just apply this principle to different categories all the time and hope you don't notice, but there's this weird pervasive idea that like everyone is equal in every single way, so no one's smarter than anyone else, no one's more beautiful than anyone else, no one's stronger than anyone else, and it's just not true. | ||
| It's just not true. | ||
| Now, again, what we should be promoting, and this is certainly what I believe, is that, you know, humans are made in the image and likeness of God. | ||
| Every single person has unfathomable value. | ||
| But instead, because we have limited people's value to what they bring to us instead of what they are solely, I'm not caught up in the news. | ||
| as full persons in order to compensate for that we have to say okay well yeah people | ||
| really are just their physical makeup and they don't have any intrinsic value besides | ||
| these specific things we decide to assign value to but they're all equal in those categories | ||
| so it's fine. | ||
| I'm not caught up in the news who's this Godfella? | ||
| Well, let's get into the conversation. | ||
| Sorry, that was my old godless left hand. | ||
| So for those in the chat that are getting triggered by my eating 8,000 calories comment, | ||
| I'm clear, I was being, I was exaggerating. | ||
| A little hyperbolic. | ||
| Yeah, I was saying like I'm eating an exorbitant amount. | ||
| How are you not dead eating eight pizzas? | ||
| But no if but I will tell you it's like not every day but days before and sometimes after it would be excess of 3,000 calories and like Yo, if I train twice a day, I'm murdering. | ||
| So breakfast with like, um, meat, potatoes, uh, eggs, toast. | ||
| You're looking at like, you know, 800 with a glass of orange juice or a thousand. | ||
| Then you, then you've got lunch, which was a couple of sandwiches and look at another six, 700 for dinner. | ||
| You get Panda Express, double orange chicken with a big thing of rice. | ||
| It's like three to 5,000, depending on what you're eating. | ||
| Some days we'd get like, we get Panda Express three times. | ||
| Seriously, skating for eight hours a day, drenched in sweat? | ||
| Like, I'm not kidding, man. | ||
| No, a lot of my pro-athlete friends can eat garbage. | ||
| Like, there's a jiu-jitsu fighter who is famous for trying to get a Panda Express sponsorship. | ||
| There's another one who only eats In-N-Out and Five Guys and stuff, and they look great and ripped and shredded, but I'm sure the inside of their body is dying. | ||
| Which, by the way, It's, you could put that dude on the cover of Sports Illustrated and he'd look great. | ||
| There's like the whole skinny fat thing. | ||
| But again, he will be dead at 40. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's why it was a red pill for me. | ||
| I was like, they clearly don't care about women because they, it looks to me like they actually want them to die young. | ||
| You can't tell me that you want these women to see their grandchildren. | ||
| It looks like you don't even want them to live past 40. | ||
| I gotta say, I think it was Bill Maher who said this, but you don't see fat 90-year-olds. | ||
| And it's not to be mean, but it's true. | ||
| It's very sad. | ||
| It's very sad, but it's true. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| It's like, well, if you care about people and you want to help them live longer lives, you should try to encourage them. | ||
| And like you pointed out, in a healthy way. | ||
| Don't be a jerk about it. | ||
| Don't shame them. | ||
| But you should still try to encourage them to get healthy. | ||
| Yeah, no, one of my friends just hit me up today about starting jiu-jitsu and he's a big dude. | ||
| And I wasn't just like, oh, thank God, fatty, what is your wife not doing you anymore? | ||
| I just literally, without saying it, you know, I left him a voice memo on Instagram. | ||
| I was like, hey, you're coming in with me. | ||
| I'll take you into class. | ||
| I'll make sure you don't have to pay. | ||
| Let me make you feel comfortable, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And I just told him, I told him I wasn't athletic and jiu-jitsu's what made, all the stuff I said to you guys. | ||
| And it's like, I'm so hyped to help this dude. | ||
| And you know, a lot of people who are overweight, they just kind of silently suffer and they hate themselves and they feel and again, I've been there on a million different levels. | ||
| And I don't think this stuff is helping them. | ||
| Again, I think the Sports Illustrated thing is harmless, but I think all that stuff that said like healthy is just like liable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think there's some harm in the Sports Illustrated thing. | ||
| I just think, you know, Dr. Peterson went a little too far. | ||
| Yeah, I don't understand that. | ||
| Hold back a little bit. | ||
| You know, like, I would put LOL and be like, no thank you or something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| LOL, no thank you. | ||
| Even that, though, would be kind of a wild tweet to see from Jordan Peterson. | ||
| LOL, no thank you. | ||
| That would have been incredible, dude. | ||
| That would have been incredible. | ||
| Jordan, he tweeted that he's, like, had his staff change his password, he's getting away from temptation, getting off Twitter because it's toxic, and the barrage of insults. | ||
| And I'm just, I just, I'm confused by that. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| For some people, having just millions of people tweeting hateful things at you, you know, some people can't handle that. | ||
| He's very sensitive. | ||
| Tim loves it. | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| Like, I'm trending right now. | ||
| I've been trending for like four days straight. | ||
| And you know what I do? | ||
| I post the Elmo fire emoji. | ||
| You're like, say my name! | ||
| This is, this is what I need to learn from you. | ||
| I almost asked you this when we were hanging out earlier, but I wanted to save it for the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because so I had John Cleese on my podcast and like a month or two ago, and if you guys are from Monty Python, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And he's been canceled a bunch this year. | ||
| And he told me he doesn't know why. | ||
| And he's like, I don't look. | ||
| Someone says, Hey, you're trending on Twitter. | ||
| And he goes, all right, I don't care. | ||
| And then he goes and he lives with his, you know, Monty Python money and lives a happy life, right? | ||
| What I think one of my problems was that I couldn't take it mentally. | ||
| Like I was suicidal. | ||
| I did disappear and stuff like that. | ||
| And so now that I'm sort of just diving into comedy and in comedy, you don't really care as much | ||
| and you can make things jokes and that's all that matters. | ||
| Because my problem too was, I was just niche famous enough to get canceled, | ||
| but like not famous enough to have a savings account or like a pool. | ||
| And so, you know, I see like John Cleese and I go, well, yeah, you don't have to look at Twitter, | ||
| but I gotta get booked at the Chuckle Hut in Kansas City and have a, you know, creepy anonymous Twitter account, | ||
| like DMing their GM. | ||
| And so, but I also think that part of the reason you blew up | ||
| was that not caring and by you not caring, you were establishing your loyal fans, which I didn't do. | ||
| I just, like, peaced out because I thought I was gonna die. | ||
| So, I come from the internet era of you, like, trolling. | ||
| Like, you go on forums and you post things to get attention. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Those were the people that all called me cucks. | ||
| I'll see, like, you know, Vosh trends a whole lot as well. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so, like, I'll see, you know, he'll be tweeting, like, a thousand, four hundred, and I'll be like, those are rookie numbers! | ||
| You gotta get those numbers up, Vosh! | ||
| But he had a funny tweet, too. | ||
| He said... I forgot what he said, but he said, I have... I'm gonna paraphrase, but something like, I have stared into the eyes of the beast and nothing scares me more than this monster. | ||
| And it was a screen grab of Vosh trending. | ||
| That was a good one. | ||
| You know, look, criticize the guy and all that stuff. | ||
| I thought that was a funny tweet. | ||
| That's very funny. | ||
| But, uh, when I, yeah, when I see like Tim pool trending and I'm like, why is it so low? | ||
| Like it's, it's like, it was like 3,900 just a little bit ago. | ||
| So what about when you were, if you hate me, get those numbers up, baby. | ||
| What about when you were like coming up dealing with the hate or when you didn't have as strong a network? | ||
| I mean, the truth is, I literally just never cared. | ||
| I care so much, guys. | ||
| No, but look, when we started doing this show, we were getting like, I don't know, shy of a thousand concurrence or something. | ||
| I didn't care. | ||
| I wanted to do the show because I was bored. | ||
| I wanted to do it. | ||
| And then people say nasty things about you, and they criticize you, and you're just like, I don't know. | ||
| I grew up on the internet. | ||
| People say nasty things all the time. | ||
| You also always had, because I realize one of the reasons that I'm so confident right now is because of the, I have a solid community for the first time in my life. | ||
| In Texas, in Jiu Jitsu, in comedy, where I have, my favorite comics are my friends. | ||
| Even just doing this with you guys. | ||
| I'm like, okay cool. | ||
| I have like new friends now. | ||
| Um, my jujitsu community, if people say untrue things about me in jujitsu, unlike my old friends who were like, well, I can't tweet about Jamie. | ||
| I don't want to lose my free internship at the nation. | ||
| It's like these jujitsu guys, they don't care at all. | ||
| They're like, yo, we will go to war for you. | ||
| Do you need us to go to war for you? | ||
| Do you need my lawyer? | ||
| I will give you my lawyer, like literally doing things like that. | ||
| And so that's what I was going to say is I wonder if even when you didn't have huge fans, you had your crew and whereas I didn't have anybody. | ||
| No, I have no crew. | ||
| I mean, like, I show up at Occupy by myself, and for the most part, you know, half the people got beef with me, half don't, and I'm just like, I'm doing my thing. | ||
| And you just don't care. | ||
| Yeah, I don't care. | ||
| I never cared. | ||
| I mean, I care about, like, I care about freedom, personal responsibility. | ||
| I care about truth. | ||
| I care about... OK, so what about when people say stuff that isn't true? | ||
| Because that'll happen to me sometimes where I'll post something and someone just writes, you were accused of sexual assault. | ||
| And I want to just go, no, I wasn't because I wasn't. | ||
| But I also don't want to address it. | ||
| And that horrifies me. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I mean, it's annoying. | ||
| But then there's also like, Someone with a hundred followers will say something that's not true, and I'm like, okay I could respond to them and try and convince one person or I can do my show and convince a million. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I'm just gonna keep doing my thing. | ||
| Just getting bigger, getting bigger. | ||
| We got to go to Super Chats! | ||
| If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com. | ||
| We're gonna have a members-only segment, probably talking about the apocalypse and $10 gas. | ||
| So again, TimCast.com. | ||
| That'll be up around 11. | ||
| Let's read! | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| Woot, do for you said fact check. | ||
| The Twitter engineer said he worked four hours last quarter, not per week. | ||
| Holy moly. | ||
|
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Oh, wow. | |
| So it's even worse. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| We were doing that dude a solid. | ||
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We were trying to cover for him. | |
| Four hours a week, that's a lot. | ||
| This is a shame train. | ||
| Tim and crew, how long do you predict until the U.S. | ||
| completely fractures and things get truly violent keep being you? | ||
| Some people were chatting that Vosch was saying the leftists need to get armed or something, but I don't know if that's true, because I didn't see it. | ||
| I just saw it in the chat. | ||
| Also, none of us know how to shoot guns, so it's fine. | ||
| We're all just going to accidentally, like, friendly fire each other. | ||
| You? | ||
| I actually started training with Tim Kennedy and the Sheepdog Guys in Austin. | ||
| That's what switched my gun views. | ||
| So jealous. | ||
| But who is we in that one? | ||
| Oh, me? | ||
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Oh, him? | |
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what place he's in. | ||
| No, you're like, we don't know how to shoot guns. | ||
| I got really great basic pointers and we've been to the range quite a bit and we have property where we can shoot tons of guns now. | ||
| Far from an expert or anybody deeply involved in any kind of gun culture. | ||
| But I've been to the range and it's pretty good. | ||
| I will say I find long guns to be relatively easy with simple training practice. | ||
| I only shot a pistol. | ||
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Handguns, I'm not that good. | |
| You have to train though. | ||
| That was the first reason I wanted to train and I hit up Tim. | ||
| One, I wanted to be, hey I was a really anti-gun guy. | ||
| And I think it would be cool to learn from you and also talk to those guys about what they think reasonable gun control is or what you should do for mass shootings or whatever. | ||
| And I had some of the most open-minded conversations I've ever had which have definitely switched my views on guns. | ||
| But I remember Tim came to me after the seminar and he was like, hey, I want to get more women, people of color, I don't want to just be like white militia Tim Kennedy fanboys and I was literally like you are doing more for people than any of my old liberal friends. | ||
| I posted a picture of a gun on a trans flag, and then I said... You can't tell me that with a straight face. | ||
| Yeah, I said, trans gun rights are human rights. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| And I said, I think black trans women should have 50 BMGs mounted on their rooftops, if they so desire, and they should be able to carry AR-15s to protect themselves from white supremacist bigots who would do them harm. | ||
| And the trans people filed takedowns against me and got it removed from Twitter. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
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So boring. | |
| I should say the left it I don't know exactly who did it, but it wasn't my photo | ||
| That's why so they filed a claim against me and then Twitter deleted it and I was like they don't want me | ||
| agreeing with them Okay, they were like it's they kept saying it was a joke | ||
| and then I was like what what's a joke about me? | ||
| So there was someone who was like just cuz it's hilariously worded does not mean I thought it was legitimately | ||
| You know, so I Somebody somebody commented like you talk big game about | ||
| guns But the moment black people get guns where are you then and | ||
| then I said, I think the Black Panthers should be armed to the | ||
| Effing teeth. Yeah, also they just like they just make things up. They create imaginary | ||
| Scenarios in their their head. They're like, what would you say that killer Mike was the thing that's consistent with | ||
| my principles? | ||
| I don't just hate whatever group you've assumed. I've hated dismiss me, right? | ||
| Yeah, killer Mike from run the jewels was the first person that made me think about my my stance on guns | ||
| Yeah, he's great. All right, let's read some more. We got booth good name | ||
| He says can't wait for the Republicans to regain control so they could continue to do absolutely nothing | ||
| Yeah, well go and vote in your primaries and make sure the people who are winning are people who will do things | ||
| I saw Rand Paul won his primary. Yes Yeah, of course | ||
| Mary Diaz says, I promised I wouldn't sign up for another subscription, but Seamus is amazing, so I've got to. | ||
| Also, Tim, do you need someone for HR? | ||
| I'm working on my certifications, but I am young and a hard worker. | ||
| Love the show. | ||
| Um, we may be getting to that point because we're relatively small, but we're growing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe, um, I don't know. | ||
| HR would not let you say we're small and growing, by the way. | ||
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Yeah, that's a little, uh, yeah. | |
| We're actually, we're a show, we're not a group. | ||
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It looks like we're a big company. | |
| Good stuff. | ||
| Great work, everyone. | ||
| By the way, thank you so much for the compliment, Mary. | ||
| That was very kind. | ||
| Ian Kinney said, Tim, all your button ups dirty? | ||
| Did you see John Rich's retweet that Elon replied to? | ||
| He did. | ||
| I didn't see that. | ||
| Which one was that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No, I just wore a teal shirt today. | ||
| Tim, we were both getting lit up about our shirts in the chat. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| People were like, look, the shameless blends in. | ||
| I got my camouflage today, man. | ||
| I was hoping I could hide. | ||
| So I was skating and I fell and I whacked my arm really bad. | ||
| And so now I just sat down and I was like, I'm exhausted. | ||
| And then, you know, normally I'll go and I'll get ready for the show. | ||
| This time I'm just like greasy, sweaty, and stinky. | ||
| I just didn't care. | ||
| Oh, so whatever. | ||
| You're like, the guest is a cancelled comedian. | ||
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We're fine. | |
| Yeah, like, offend this guy! | ||
| Is that James O'Keefe? | ||
| I'd be wearing a suit. | ||
| No, honestly, it might be James O'Keefe. | ||
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Where's the camera? | |
| Sounds like James. | ||
| Sounds like something James would say, is that I'm not James O'Keefe. | ||
| All right, let's grab some more superchats. | ||
| People mentioning the new Veritas posts. | ||
| Paul Jones says, MB was super cringe. | ||
| Guy is banality of evil incarnate. | ||
| Couldn't hold a consistent position. | ||
| Intellectually bankrupt. | ||
| It was indeed like speaking to a brick wall. | ||
| You and Seamus had did good. | ||
| Had did. | ||
| I thought Matt was a cool guy. | ||
| He was a nice guy. | ||
| We hung out before and after the show. | ||
| When it got into politics, I felt confused because I didn't understand what his principles were. | ||
| I understood his platitudes, like when he said, conservatives think trans people don't exist. | ||
| But when I asked him, what does that mean? | ||
| What idea are you trying to convey? | ||
| He couldn't say anything. | ||
| It just didn't mean anything. | ||
| I still have no idea what they mean when they say conservatives think trans people don't exist. | ||
| Like, Ben Shapiro walks into Blair White and then he goes, where did she go? | ||
| She's gone. | ||
| Yeah, I just don't understand what they're trying to say. | ||
| And they don't clarify either. | ||
| I would like to say I think trans people exist. | ||
| I think they do too. | ||
| They've been misled. | ||
| Are they trying to say something like you don't respect them? | ||
| You don't believe? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Don't say that. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| But when I say, what idea are you trying to convey? | ||
| And they say, well, I'm like, well, if you can't explain it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Bobcat says, if she's a 10 and you're a 2, she's James O'Keefe. | ||
| That is what everybody in Twitter needs to walk around with. | ||
| That's what the Tweeb memo should be. | ||
| It should have said, guys, you're not that attractive. | ||
| She's not that into you, she's James O'Keefe. | ||
| They're like, we specifically hire people who don't look good enough to believe they could be getting a date with someone that attractive. | ||
| You're not hot. | ||
| Stop spilling company intel. | ||
| But I really just love that they emailed the guy and he's showing it off. | ||
| That was incredible. | ||
| That was a cartoon. | ||
| He's like, the Veritas person's like, what's this Project Veritas? | ||
| You know what would be funny? | ||
| If then the Veritas guy, the guy who's filming, he says, aha, I am Veritas. | ||
| But then the guy he's filming goes, I was James O'Keefe the whole time. | ||
| And they're both Veritas. | ||
| Wait a second. | ||
| Why did we do this? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
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Want a drink? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Everyone is James O'Keefe. | ||
| But then Veritas puts together, like, a hit piece on Veritas. | ||
| Like, Project Veritas. | ||
| It's called a Project Veritas agent doing this. | ||
| You know what would be another funny skit is a person working at Twitter who is paranoid and thinks everyone is James O'Keefe. | ||
| And so he, like, he grabs an old woman and is, like, pulling on her hair, like, take the wig off! | ||
| I know that's you, O'Keefe! | ||
| So let's ad-lib all of these. | ||
| Dude, we should do a bunch of these for sure. | ||
| Or one 20-minute long one. | ||
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All right. | |
| Sam Whiter says, I sent this chat yesterday, but gladly send it again since yesterday's show was amazing. | ||
| When I was watching your segment about Disney, I thought about the South Park episode about the pedo group Nambla. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The North American Marlon Brando lookalikes. | ||
| Make 1984 fiction again says, since you didn't get this yesterday, I'll try again. | ||
| There is no such thing as a viability argument. | ||
| There is no such thing as a baby viable in or out of the womb until three years old that's generous. | ||
| But I understand that point. | ||
| But the idea being conveyed is there's a point at which the baby doesn't need to rely on the blood of the mother. | ||
| Like, it can be sustained through technology. | ||
| That's why I asked that question. | ||
| I can't remember who I asked, but like, Like if you don't have to kill it, why kill it? | ||
| one can moment of conception could be taken out in place in an artificial womb | ||
| should that be required for any abortion like if you don't have to kill it why kill it you know I | ||
| mean I think I think the issue is oh yeah I think the issue is that a lot of | ||
| abortions are due to financial issues | ||
| And so it's like the intentional killing of the baby because they're like, well, I can't afford it. | ||
| So when I brought that up to Matt the other day, I said, well, what about a man who also can't afford it? | ||
| Can he choose to set a responsibility? | ||
| He said, no. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, well, I don't know how you have the argument that a woman who can't afford the baby can't abort it, but the man who can't afford the baby has no choice and has to go to jail for being a deadbeat. | ||
| You gotta be consistent, man. | ||
| I'm trying to figure out what your positions are for these guys. | ||
| MiniStrangeCork says, Shamus, please make a tune of James O'Keefe in drag on a sting. | ||
| That would be hilarious. | ||
| All of you at the Castle Rock. | ||
| Chicken City forever. | ||
| Well, I'm sure you have been pleasantly surprised by all the O'Keefe skits we've been coming up with here. | ||
| So if you do it, it has to be a musical parody. | ||
| It has to be like a Hamilton or Oklahoma for James O'Keefe. | ||
| Yeah, it has to be. | ||
| I like the wedding one. | ||
| The wedding one? | ||
| I just want someone to go through their whole life and at the very end of their life, their spouse was doing a hit. | ||
| No, the child they had with their spouse was doing an O'Keefe hit piece. | ||
| The whole thing was set up. | ||
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| Dude, James O'Keefe puts a liberal, like, in the Truman Show. | ||
| He, like, raises a liberal from birth in the Truman Show and watches everything they do and just livestreams it. | ||
| He's like, this is who they are! | ||
| This is how they think! | ||
| This proves it! | ||
| This proves how liberals are! | ||
| He's proving the point that a liberal from birth would retain... So he's like, we've kidnapped the child of a liberal family. | ||
| Now we're raising it in an isolated space to see what behaviors it has to prove whether or not liberals are inherently, you know, liberal. | ||
| All right, Iggy the Incubus says, Ayo Tim, as many times as your streams have gone down, all of a sudden, are you sure it's not actual malice from the overlords at YouTube at this point? | ||
| Oh, I think it is. | ||
| I mean, we did a segment where He Who Shall Not Be Named was named, and then the stream goes down halfway through. | ||
| Yeah, sus. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| There was a stream that went down, but Chicken City, which is streaming through the same network, was live. | ||
| Really weird! | ||
| They're streaming from the same network. | ||
| How does that happen? | ||
| How does that happen, huh? | ||
| Okay, we'll get some more. | ||
| Morgan H says, James O'Keefe. | ||
| Oh, James O'Keefe. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| James O'Keefe. | ||
| I know that guy. | ||
| Very nice. | ||
| Fire Sky says, very nice shirt, Tim. | ||
| Also, please do that skit. | ||
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All the skits. | |
| Every single one. | ||
| I mean, I would love to actually have James come down to be in a skit. | ||
| It has to. | ||
| That would be so good. | ||
| It would be hilarious. | ||
| Let me message his people. | ||
| Do it, do it, do it. | ||
| See what I can do. | ||
| Take the wig off and it's James. | ||
| Or it could just be James in the suit, in a full suit, but also wearing a really awful wig. | ||
| And the guys are like, what's up girl? | ||
| Hey, you wanna hear about my Twitter hijinks? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want to hear about some corporate malfeasance, girl? | ||
| I know I've only just met you, but let me give you this ledger of every illegal thing I've done. | ||
| I wouldn't do this if we didn't meet organically. | ||
| Alright, seriously, JK says, Shamus, the undercover dude knew his audience perfectly. | ||
| That being the tweet. | ||
| He played directly to him because he knew he could while mocking him at the same time. | ||
| It was actually brilliant improv, in my opinion. | ||
| I don't think that guy knew it was Veritas. | ||
| I don't know, that's hard to tell. | ||
| Dude, the whole exchange is so bizarre. | ||
| It's so hysterical. | ||
| It seems contrived. | ||
| He seemed a little dry. | ||
| He seemed tipsy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So maybe... I mean... | ||
| Neo Reaper says, instead of Punk'd, you get O'Keefe'd. | ||
| Seamus, get on it. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| It's like, actually, you weren't on a date. | ||
| You confessed to criminal activity. | ||
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And they're like, ah, you got him. | |
| Dude. | ||
| Dude, there's so many good ones. | ||
| Write them down. | ||
| With this guy, I'm still stuck on, what is this? | ||
| Project Burritos. | ||
| That's something someone in a fake mustache says. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Well, that was the gay one. | ||
| He could have had a fake mustache. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They all do, even the beautiful women are wearing fake mustaches. | ||
| The glasses with the big nose. | ||
| The glasses with a giant camera protruding from the front of their head. | ||
| All does as O'Keefe sends 100s the entire bar was O'Keefe. | ||
| Oh, he sends hundreds. The entire bar was O'Keefe Oh my god. Oh my gosh, they'd be | ||
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all over like Do the whole bar is cardboard | |
| Dude, he could literally put a cardboard cutout on a remote-control car that had a camera attached to it | ||
| And these people would spill their secrets to it. All right around. I'll tell you | ||
| So hold on so the guy who gets stung by Veritas on his you know | ||
| He's dating a girl and then he pulls the wig off. It's it's O'Keefe. It's like it's too late. You've said everything. | ||
| Ah He becomes paranoid | ||
| So then he goes to work and then someone at the office is talking to him and he's like, I admitted to everything. | ||
| And then all of a sudden he's like, wait a minute. | ||
| And then he pulls the wig off and it's James again. | ||
| So that's freaking out. | ||
| So then he goes to therapy and he's sitting on the bed and the doctors and the therapist is like, tell me what it's like at your job. | ||
| And he's like, well, what's been happening is wait, wait a minute. | ||
| No, no, it can't be. | ||
| And then he pulls the wig off and the therapist is James O'Keefe. | ||
| No, no, but the solution or the resolution is the, you know, entire world is turned against him. | ||
| But fortunately, they're all James O'Keefe. | ||
| So he's like, well, this guy didn't like me anyway. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All right, we'll grab some more. | ||
| A lot of people pointing out the other Veritas video. | ||
| Charles Fritt says, date videos allow the whistleblower to feign outrage and keep their jobs. | ||
| Get Christian Westbrook from Ice Age Farmer on the show, please. | ||
| That sounds cool. | ||
| Charles Bloomer says, this is for Shim cartoon skit. | ||
| For you sir, a commercial for Justin Trudeau charcoal facial mask. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| And then it ends with being like, and coming soon, the Ralph Northam. | ||
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Oh my gosh. | |
| Northam bedsheets. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are they called? | ||
| Die-cut bedsheets. | ||
| PimsTheGreat says, sent this yesterday before YouTube deleted everything. | ||
| Just closed on 9.5 acres for my homestead Monday, but wanted to ask your opinion on BlackRock owning 75% of Ancestry.com. | ||
| Scary that they now have access to people's DNA. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| Is Ancestry DNA? | ||
| I'm pretty sure Ancestry is taking him. | ||
| Because I had Ancestry for a while. | ||
| But you still have Ancestry. | ||
| Yeah, technically. | ||
| 23andMe is that you send your blood or something? | ||
| Yeah, I never did that. | ||
| I was like, oh my goodness. | ||
| They send you a small knife in a package and you slice your palm and then squeeze. | ||
| They don't do that. | ||
| And then a guy there does blood brothers with you and does rituals with your blood. | ||
| You actually just like swab your cheek or something. | ||
| But I always thought it was funny that in movies they'll take when it's like the ritual calls for blood and they're like let me slice my entire palm open instead of like poking my arm. | ||
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Yeah, it's like how much blood did you need? | |
| And then their hand is like fine or they'll just wrap it and it's like bro you're not gonna be able to like it's gonna hurt. | ||
| They're like we need blood let me cut my arm off. | ||
| Let me slit this way. | ||
| PRCE5 says, I'm picturing James O'Keefe as Willem Dafoe in Boondock Saints at the end. | ||
| Yeah, that was a good one. | ||
| Yo, James, we've got so many funny skits. | ||
| They say, when are you thinking? | ||
| As soon as humanly possible. | ||
| Yeah, as soon as humanly possible. | ||
| We could easily do this. | ||
| All we need is a wig. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That would be really funny. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We'll figure it out. | ||
| We don't have a skit channel. | ||
| I mean, look, if we did it without Keith, we could also... No, I mean, we could also literally... I could do a cartoon of it. | ||
| We could just, like, if he's interested, send his voice in. | ||
| That'd be good too, yeah. | ||
| But there's, like, so many. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Well, we're gonna do 50 of them then! | ||
| All right. | ||
| No, but I would love to do a physical... That would also be hilarious. | ||
| Just with him, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that would be hilarious. | ||
| We can also do some of them for the show. | ||
| Your idea is fine too, Seamus. | ||
| For the people who didn't listen to this episode, if I was watching a sketch, and you know it's a James O'Keefe sketch, and then the reveal is it's actually James O'Keefe, I would pop huge for that. | ||
| It's like a 5'3", skinny blonde chick. | ||
| She's like, tell me more about your job. | ||
| Wow, have you ever done anything bad? | ||
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And he's like, oh yeah, here's what I did. | |
| And then, wait a minute. | ||
| You've ever done anything bad? | ||
| Yeah, here's the documents. | ||
| Can you Xerox that for me? | ||
| I do have a portable scanner right here. | ||
| I knew bringing this scanner on all these dates would finally pay off. | ||
| Derek says your possible skit is a remake of You Got Mail. | ||
| I don't know what that one is. | ||
| Also, which possible skit cuz we got like 50 of these I know so good and the James the Jordan beat Jordan Peterson weight loss program Oh, that's right. | ||
| That has to be done as well. | ||
| I think you play Peterson where he does I do I do little cartoons He tells everyone to only eat meat, right? | ||
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Yeah body the archetypal hero stop eating All the food his weight loss app is called the hero's journey. | |
| Yeah I would download that. | ||
| That's actually a good name. | ||
| Write it down. | ||
| It'd be funny if like in a week Jordan's got a new book called The Hero's Journey and it's like a weight loss plan. | ||
| I love it! | ||
| And then you're like I came up with that and he's like prove it! | ||
| You're not beautiful. | ||
| Stop shaming me. | ||
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All right. | |
| Xbox hog says almost died today by turning off the main breaker of my soaking wet circuit breaker box. | ||
| Did not get electrocuted, but I was really dumb. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Summer Andre says Abby Johnson is a great person for perspective. | ||
| She used to run a planned parenthood until she had to assist in one and watch the baby fight against the tools. | ||
| Stu Peters has a great interview with her. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I want to get her on. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| That's not how it was in any state where abortion was illegal prior to Roe v. Wade. | ||
| It's not as if women had miscarriages and then the police showed up to their house to investigate. | ||
| making miscarriage illegal not expressly legal but effectively if they're all | ||
| treated as a crime that's not how it was in any state where abortion was illegal | ||
| prior to Roe v. Wade it's not as if women had miscarriages and then the | ||
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police showed up to their house to investigate it's ridiculous yeah I also | |
| suppose it depends on the so you would be against that if someone did | ||
| You can't, like, investigate people for miscarriage. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| Well, you could. | ||
| What if a woman's eight months pregnant and the baby, you know, she has a miscarriage? | ||
| So if you have something, if there's, like, a dumpster baby, like a, you know, a dead child found in a dumpster or something like that, yeah, you'd have to investigate because that's insane. | ||
| But... Yeah. | ||
| But actually, maybe, I don't know, can you have a miscarriage at eight months? | ||
| I think it's much less likely than earlier in the presidency. | ||
| I think it would be called something different at that point. | ||
| I think it's still a miscarriage at that point. | ||
| Is it? | ||
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I think it is. | |
| I looked it up. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, um, the issue at play with the argument is typically the left is arguing, like, if the baby's dead, then you need to abort. | ||
| That's not abortion. | ||
| It's the removal of the... It's a delivery. | ||
| Well, the CDC says the termination of a pregnancy with a not live birth. | ||
| If that's the idea they're trying to convey, I'm trying to steelman their approach. | ||
| My response is, then put that in the law. | ||
| Then make it clarify that the life of the baby must be preserved at all costs. | ||
| But the issue is, despite Matt the other day arguing repeatedly that it's for the health of the mother, he also said when pressed, well, the woman can get an abortion electively. | ||
| It's her choice. | ||
| Also, there is no single piece of proposed pro-life legislation and there is no pro-life advocacy group or any group that has ever said, we need to make it illegal to remove a miscarried baby if necessary. | ||
| You gotta keep it forever. | ||
| It's just, it's ridiculous. | ||
| No one says that. | ||
| Yeah, so a miscarriage after 24 weeks is called a stillbirth. | ||
| Stillbirth, I'm sorry, you're correct, you're correct. | ||
| That's what I thought. | ||
| Oh, you are right. | ||
| Yeah, I thought it was, I thought it was something else. | ||
| Yeah, it is something else. | ||
| Son of a miscarriage. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Good point. | ||
| So, in which case, yeah, miscarriage wouldn't be investigated. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because, like, miscarriage is pre-viability. | ||
| I have been shocked by the number of people who are like, well, then, are miscarriages abortions? | ||
| I'm like, no! | ||
| It's a horrible, sad thing that just happens. | ||
| Not legally. | ||
| Spontaneous abortion is sometimes a medical term people use, yeah, but it's not. | ||
| What I mean is, I want to make sure we're addressing their idea and not using words that they use differently. | ||
| Right, well, the removal of an unfortunately miscarried baby is called a D and C, dilation and carettage, which is removing it. | ||
| Unfortunate, soul crushing. | ||
| If the pregnancy has already been terminated due to a miscarriage or stillbirth, then abortion is the termination of the pregnancy that doesn't result in a live birth, according to the CDC. | ||
| Not to start more heated abortion stuff. | ||
| I'm just going to disappear. | ||
| You're about to. | ||
| More expensive whiskey. | ||
| What's the per life stance? | ||
| Genuinely, this is not a gotcha thing. | ||
| When on the argument where it's abortions are still going to happen, but not safe and legally. | ||
| So, you know, a kid who is raped and his parents are going to disown them or, you know, like some of these I have friends who were, I mean, I've been in relationships with women who were raped and they were afraid to tell their parents because that was just the dynamic where they would have been shamed or whatever. | ||
| So people who have to then sneak off to get less safe abortions. | ||
| So the argument essentially saying that, yo, they're still going to happen, but it's just not going to be as safe if you don't have access. | ||
| Is there sort of like a, well, we can do this solution from the pro-life stance on that? | ||
| No, that's a really good question. | ||
| So basically, there's a few points. | ||
| So there's the point about, you know, people are going to break this law. | ||
| So what do you have to say about that? | ||
| And then there's this question of whether there are going to be unsafe procedures if abortion isn't illegal. | ||
| I think for the first question, I would say anytime we implement any kind of legislation to try to help people or save lives, some people are going to break the law. | ||
| I don't think that's a good reason not to pass the law. | ||
| So I know in Texas, it's difficult to have perfect metrics on this, but we've seen something like a 66% decline in the number of abortions that have happened there. | ||
| And when it comes to the back alley abortion narrative, this is a mostly mythical idea that's been sold to the American public that prior to Roe v. Wade, because abortion was illegal, you just had thousands of women dying in these risky procedures. | ||
| Bernard Nathanson was an abortion doctor who was, I believe, the founder of an organization called NARAL. | ||
| And he admitted, after he defected from the pro-choice movement, that all of the numbers they produced for the number of women who died in back alley abortion procedures were completely fabricated. | ||
| The media printed them. | ||
| It wasn't true. | ||
| So in 1933, there were about 2,700 recorded deaths from abortions and miscarriages together in the entire country. | ||
| By the time you get to 1945, that number is under 900. | ||
| And then by 1972, there were 63. | ||
| And 38% of them happened in states where abortion was legal. | ||
| The reason is that as penicillin has become more widely available, Fewer women die from abortions and miscarriages. | ||
| Yeah, antibiotics have become more widely available. | ||
| So it's not as if... Penicillin's like the Ben and Jerry of the abortion complex. | ||
| Well, penicillin's mostly not even in use, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Fair, but antibiotics, generally speaking, yeah. | ||
| So it was an issue of people not having access to antibiotics. | ||
| And again, before abortion was illegal, 38% of the deaths from abortion were taking place in states where abortion was legal. | ||
| How do you deal with any other illegal medical procedure? | ||
| Yeah, I mean they they happen it's not like we you know, we don't see people going out and being like people are | ||
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illegally selling body parts Yeah, I think even Bergen was talking about that about how | |
| there might be more Do they call it medical tourism? | ||
| Where people kind of cross state lines if it's going to go state by state to find it. | ||
| What was really interesting to me learning the numbers about abortion was this, what a huge percentage of it is completely just because ladies like, I don't feel like being pregnant. | ||
| In fact, Abby Johnson was just talking about a lady who aborted her 16 week old fetus because she wanted a summer body. | ||
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| Unbelievable. | ||
| Let's read some more. | ||
| We got... Brody Ninja says, Hey Chicago boys, I'll be in Chicago slash Schaumburg in two weeks for a Winnie City Pony Con. | ||
| I've been recommended Giordano's and Lou Malnati's for pizza. | ||
| Any other places that'd be cool to check out while there? | ||
| Um, let's see. | ||
| We have a bunch of Giordano's actually here in the freezer. | ||
| It is delicious. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I don't eat the crust though. | ||
| Just the cheese. | ||
| Luminati's is also extremely good, and they're both good in different ways. | ||
| Now, if you want to know the secret... | ||
| You gotta go down to Archer Avenue on the south side of Chicago and you gotta go to one of two places or both. | ||
| There's Villa Rosa on Archer near Central. | ||
| I can't remember, maybe something like La Trobe or something. | ||
| And then there's Danny's. | ||
| Danny's Pizza, which is like, maybe that's La Trobe. | ||
| They're both on Archer. | ||
| So if you look by Midway Airport, and those are the pizza places that all of my friends and I, we grew up eating, and that's like the real Chicago pizza. | ||
| You go to Giordano's and Limonati's, you get the tourist pizza. | ||
| If you want to get the real square cut, semi-thick crust with thick cheese on it, you go down, you go to those places. | ||
| That's how I feel about the Philly cheesesteak thing, where they're like, you know, like the two main ones are not good. | ||
| And it's just everything in the surrounding area is very good. | ||
| All right, let's grab... We'll try and grab a couple more, because we went a little over. | ||
| Christopher Macy says, Tim, you said people can't grow their own food to feed themselves in cities. | ||
| Please check out my page on TikTok at rebuildinglifegardens1. | ||
| This is not true. | ||
| There are urban gardens that I know about. | ||
| Places like Detroit, they've created urban gardens. | ||
| And there's also balcony and rooftop gardens. | ||
| So, I'm sure, um, I could be wrong, but I wonder if you'd have the acreage to sustain a population of a city. | ||
| I don't, that's just not possible, you know? | ||
| So, I think if you look at the amount of available arable land in a city versus how many people live there, you'd have to drop it down by 99%. | ||
| I mean, you can grow some food, right? | ||
| But I don't think you could, it's impossible to sustain yourself. | ||
| You know, we've got, I think now, with the babies, maybe like 40 chickens. | ||
| And I'm like, it's great. | ||
| Every three years you get to eat one when they stop laying. | ||
| I suppose you can eat it once it's fully grown by like, if you're doing broiler hens or something. | ||
| Maybe you'll eat the roosters. | ||
| Or if it upsets you. | ||
| Or if it's just out of line. | ||
| Or if someone it loves upsets you. | ||
| But if they're laying eggs, we don't want to eat them. | ||
| And then they lay it for like three years. | ||
| But if you have the proper cycle going, you'll always have a couple chickens. | ||
| But you got to understand, guys, one chicken gets you two wings. | ||
| Technically, you got the flats and the drums, so maybe four. | ||
| But when you go to a restaurant and you're like, I'm gonna get twelve wings in buffalo sauce. | ||
| Twelve! | ||
| How many chickens? | ||
| Three to six chickens, depending on if you're getting flats and drums. | ||
| Well, Tim, I hope modern science is working on that. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| We can have chickens with twelve wings. | ||
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Who says? | |
| Why not? | ||
| Man, old Jamie would have gone on an hour-long vegan tirade. | ||
| You're welcome, Super Chat. | ||
| Theo C says, I am become James O'Keefe, destroyer of tweeps. | ||
| Tweeps, bro. | ||
| Gundam Wing says, I've heard a lot about women's rights and talk about babies when it comes to abortion. | ||
| What about the father's rights? | ||
| It takes two to make a baby, but I haven't seen anyone talking about the father's rights. | ||
| Should women get abortions against the father's wishes? | ||
| Well, the pro-choice guy, I guess, said men have no choice. | ||
| So I think he's anti-choice. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I think, you know, there's got to be responsibility involved. | ||
| And there's a serious question about the father's rights, but it's not the father carrying the baby, which is it is the legal question of the rights in question. | ||
| So when it came to the Supreme Court decisions, they're like, well, there's the woman, but then there's the baby and they're both in the same space. | ||
| The father is not in that space. | ||
| So it's I don't know how that would work. | ||
| But I think we need cultural solutions. | ||
| I think our culture needs to decide what we will and will not accept. | ||
| There are certain things you can't do, there are certain things you can. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's the woman's body. | ||
| Because I was trying to think about it, because I'm really going to meditate on a lot of the things you guys said, because it's stuff I legitimately never thought about. | ||
| When you told the story about the baby who was coming out, Gasp because I never heard those stories before and so I was trying to think about it But especially I mean if you make it equal, I mean it is the woman's body is the government It's a woman's body. | ||
| And if you're in an abusive relationship if you know, there's so many Dicey situations where if it was equal like it's not equal it is in one of our bodies. | ||
| It's not ever gonna be equal Yeah, it's impossible. | ||
| Yeah, because women carry babies and men don't yeah period and but now there's a there's a there's a viral you know maybe | ||
| we should talk about there are these viral posts going around of of men breastfeeding i yeah i | ||
| think we should we Let's talk about it, because we're talking about these rights, so here's what we'll do. | ||
| Head over to TimCast.com, become a member. | ||
| We're going to address the questions of equality on this issue, but there's viral posts going around, I think Libs of TikTok had it, where men are taking hormone pills to induce lactation so they can share the burden with their wives. | ||
| Yeah, I'm definitely gonna have more whiskey. | ||
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Have some more? | |
| And this is gonna be an interesting conversation. | ||
| TimCast.com. | ||
| I didn't need to know. | ||
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| Jamie you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Yeah, Instagram at the Jamie Kilstein. | ||
| You're probably better off there because I preemptively have a lot of you blocked. | ||
| I'm so sorry on Twitter from my old days. | ||
| But my Twitter's at Jamie Kilstein and the podcast is a F-Ups, but spelled out, guide to the universe. | ||
| Or you can go to JamieKilsteinPodcast.com. | ||
| By the way, I can't believe you hypocrites were complaining about the formula shortage and you don't want men to lactate us all the time. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Hypocrites, hypocrites. | ||
| So my name is Seamus. | ||
| I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. | ||
| Please go there, check that out. | ||
| We are also going to be launching the Freedom Tunes website on May 30th. | ||
| And if you go to that website, sign up for the mailing list right now. | ||
| There's a little receptacle there for you to put your email when we launch. | ||
| We're going to be archiving all of the cartoons there. | ||
| And also, we are going to be having a paywall up. | ||
| So for $5 a month, you'll get one extra cartoon per week, and you'll get behind-the-scenes footage, like Tim and I improv-ing the videos we work on together and commentaries. | ||
| Those are even more funny, to be honest. | ||
| Those are a lot of fun, yeah. | ||
| The chicken one was one of the funniest. | ||
| Shame is just screaming. | ||
| People thought it was me screaming. | ||
| Well, yes, because that would be appropriate. | ||
| I mean, that's to be expected from Tim. | ||
| That's true, yeah. | ||
| I just want to say I want to know more about this receptacle where you put your emails for Seamus' site. | ||
| That sounds terrifying. | ||
| Go to freedomtunes.com, T-O-O-N-S, and you'll be able to drop your email address in there. | ||
| In that receptacle. | ||
| I am definitely going to drink whiskey for this episode of the After Show, for sure. | ||
| You guys can follow me on Twitters with the tweets and mines.com at SourPatchLives as well as SourPatchLives.me. | ||
| Alright, thanks for hanging out everybody. | ||
| We'll see you over at TimCast.com talking about lactating men. |
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