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Timcast IRL - Elon Musk GOES OFF, Calls Out Media Over Epstein w/Danny Polishchuk
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tim pool
So NBC runs this segment where they basically say, it's Mehdi Hassan, he's like, if the
neo-Nazi faction of the GOP expands in November, we may look back on this, a pivotal moment
when a petulant and not so bright billionaire bought one of the most influential messaging
machines and handed it to the far right.
It's a ridiculous thing to say, but of course, NBC is a ridiculous network.
And Elon Musk responds by basically going off and then questioning why it is that we didn't get the client list for Maxwell and Epstein.
And I'm just like, This dude's losing it and then Elon goes are they why are they writing my suicide story already?
And I'm like, yo, this dude is going off It's gonna be fun.
We got to go through this and talk about it We got a bunch of other stories to though get a bunch of like weird cultural stories because one of the big things It's been in the news With Elon Musk talking about the left going too far left is now you've got these leftists who are like, but we nominated Joe Biden and he's a moderate.
He's a centrist.
And it's just like, dude, Joe Biden says, affirm your kids.
Like that's a huge departure from where Barack Obama was in 2008 when he was opposing gay marriage.
So we got to talk about that.
Diesel prices are the highest they've ever been.
So expect your paycheck to not go that far and for prices to hurt a whole lot.
And we got a whole bunch of stuff.
Hopefully we'll get to all of it.
We have this story from the New York Times where they're trying to defend a book that was in public schools depicting adult activities for children.
And when the right got mad and they were like, hey, we kind of don't want these images in our libraries for kids to just find, the New York Times runs a story saying it's just a bunch of like extremist far right, you know, homophobes or whatever.
And I'm like, dude, if not wanting kids to be exposed to this stuff is far right, then I don't know what that means for this country.
Because these leftists who are pushing this stuff are not in the majority, but they make you think they are.
And then the people in the media just play this up.
We're going to get into all that stuff.
Joining us to talk about all this is Danny Polischuk.
unidentified
Hello.
How are you doing?
How's it going?
tim pool
Who are you, good sir?
unidentified
I am a comedian.
I host a podcast with Ryan Long called The Voice Cast, and I host a call-in show called Low Value Mail, every M-A-I-L, every Tuesday night at nine o'clock.
And some people might know me as the deranged employee of Twitter.
I'm sure there's some person right now watching this going, hey, isn't that that crazy guy who works at Twitter?
There's a thing you posted.
Yeah.
I had literally 200,000 people who thought I actually worked for Twitter.
Wow.
It was almost like obviously a green screen.
That's hurtful.
I, that's what I thought.
I thought that was very obvious that this is a green screen.
I said my name was Tony Fernandez because I always picked a former Toronto Blue Jays for every sketch I do is the name.
And so, and then people were like, They were, it says Tony Fernandez and they're like, Danny jokes.
I can't go.
Why don't you quit if you don't want to work at Twitter?
I'm like, I said, my name was Tony Fernandez.
tim pool
Uh, well, I guess we'll just have to talk about that.
So, uh, we also have Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Seamus.
Yeah, I can relate.
There was a while ago on the show where Tim said, what do you, how do you define like racist or something?
And I said, Trump supporter, which if anyone knows anything about it is obviously a joke.
And there are people in the chat like, I can't believe, I thought, I can't believe Seamus hates Trump.
I was like, what?
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
seamus coughlin
But, um, yeah, I'm Seamus Coghlan.
I make cartoons at a channel called Freedom Tunes.
So y'all should go check them out.
And by the way, Low Value Mel, that is a brilliant name for a college guy.
unidentified
Shout out to female dating strategy for that one.
ian crossland
What's up, everybody?
Ian Crosland here.
I got a... Tim got me this, actually.
This is a piece of labradorite I wanted to show you.
tim pool
Whenever I see rocks, I just think of Ian.
ian crossland
Look at this.
It's got this labradorescence.
lydia smith
Lydia just pulled it up.
ian crossland
It's an effect where you can kind of almost see through the labradorite.
lydia smith
So cool.
ian crossland
Yeah, man, this is excellent.
tim pool
It's an expensive sphere.
ian crossland
Other than that, I got nothing else.
lydia smith
Just Labradorite to show us.
tim pool
A new rock to show us.
lydia smith
A new rock to show us.
tim pool
It's like show and tell with you.
ian crossland
I'm going to roll the 100-sided die.
Let's find out.
lydia smith
Let's see what we got.
seamus coughlin
Ooh.
ian crossland
What do we got?
unidentified
70.
lydia smith
Oh, not bad.
ian crossland
Up against the Labradorite.
lydia smith
Oh, nice.
ian crossland
7-0.
lydia smith
That is a strong start.
Earlier tonight, we were learning about Labradorescence.
Apparently, that is a thing that I did not know about.
I also love Labradorite.
It is beautiful.
You guys should check it out.
It doesn't look anything like it does here on the show.
It looks way better in real life.
tim pool
Well, all right.
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Because if we give away our plans for our culture jamming strategies, then, uh, you ruin them.
But if you liked what we did with the billboard in Times Square, you're gonna love what we've got planned for this summer because, because of your support, as members allowing us to do this stuff, we've got, we've got some, we've got some, uh...
News cycle setting plans.
And when I say we, just, I can't reveal who, but talking to some masterful trolls about what can we do to send a message that's good marketing, that also challenges the establishment and asserts our presence and will just trigger these blue checkies.
So we got some plans.
It's going to be fun.
So thank you all so much for making this possible to dream come true.
And I'm going to really enjoy what we have coming up the next few months.
So, don't forget to smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and let's get into this first story with a big shout-out to Elon Musk.
We have this clip Tom Elliott posted.
It's NBC's Mehdi Hassan saying, if the neo-Nazi faction of the GOP expands in November, we may look back on this as a pivotal moment when a petulant and not-so-bright billionaire casually bought one of the most influential messaging machines and just handed it to the far right.
The first thing I have to do is point out, anybody who calls a billionaire not so bright... Insane.
I know, just not so bright.
seamus coughlin
Come on.
The question is, why aren't you a billionaire?
It's easy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Idiots can do it.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Try.
seamus coughlin
Please.
I would love to see it.
unidentified
The guy is sending rockets into space and then landing them on, like, islands that are a little larger than the rocket.
ian crossland
He's also self-made.
For the most part.
He sold PayPal to make his first big chunk of money.
He risked everything to make Tesla great.
seamus coughlin
But he had white skin while doing it.
tim pool
His family's rich.
seamus coughlin
I know a lot of kids whose families were rich and instead they went to art school and didn't get a job.
If you can be an idiot and become a billionaire just because your parents were rich, it's so easy, why aren't these people able to do it?
tim pool
Look, when they call Trump an idiot, I'm like, I mean, brash, maybe?
But the dude turned a million dollars into a billion dollars.
I mean, you gotta be smart to do it.
The idea that you could just have a million dollars and become a billionaire like that, it's not the case.
But the funny thing is, we're talking about Elon Musk, and you mentioned with the rockets, he's like the first guy to land a rocket.
Upright, back on a platform, and it's like this tremendous feat.
He lowered the cost of rocketry like tenfold or a hundredfold, and he's making space travel infinitely cheaper.
He's got Starlink, low-latency satellites, and they're like, what an idiot.
seamus coughlin
His political views are wrong, he's an idiot.
Also, if having rich parents sets you up for success, and it's just a guarantee you walk into it, explain Hunter Biden.
tim pool
But let's be real, I mean, He's making money, too.
unidentified
I mean, Hunter Biden's making some money, too.
I spent $650,000 on a painting of his, so I don't know.
Oh, my.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, look, I mean, craftsmanship is craftsmanship, and you have to reward good work.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about what Elon says.
So Elon Musk responds with, NBC basically saying Republicans are Nazis.
He then says, same organization that covered up Hunter Biden laptop story had Harvey Weinstein story early and killed it and built Matt Lauer his rape office.
Lovely people.
unidentified
That's a low blow, Elon, in the rape office.
tim pool
When I saw that, I was like, I am retweeting this.
lydia smith
This is amazing.
tim pool
Yo, Elon is unleashed.
You know what?
This is what I've been wanting to see, right?
I've always asked myself this when I was younger.
I'm like, there's so much going on in the world that people complain about.
Where are these billionaires to just do anything?
I mean, seriously, anything.
Like, what did Oprah do?
People got mad at Oprah because she had this big event on Michigan Avenue in Chicago, where there's like a helicopter shot of all these people in an audience watching a musical performance.
But then all of a sudden, all the people start doing a choreographed dance, and you realize they're all paid actors.
And people got mad because they were like, if you were gonna do a show, do a show, but this is all one big setup, I remember seeing it and thinking, like, that's what they do with their money?
They just get a bunch of dancers to dance in the street?
Where are the billboards saying, like, screw this guy and F this?
Or, like, I'm mad about that?
Like, very rarely.
So now you get Elon Musk.
Matt Lauer's rape office.
Yo, but check this out.
Pope of Muscanity says, it says it all that we heard more about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock than we heard about Ghislaine Maxwell's trial.
It is also interesting that the account tracking the Maxwell trial got banned when it gained traction.
Lovely people indeed.
And then Elon Musk says, where is their client list?
Shouldn't at least one of them go down?
And then, hey, why are they already writing my suicide story?
Dude, that last one strikes a little bit too real because there's no way they're gonna, like, the powerful elites, massive corporations, politicians, what are they gonna do?
Sit back and let a rogue billionaire just go off?
ian crossland
I think he answered your question, why we don't see more billionaires calling people out, because you basically paint a bullseye on your forehead if you do that.
The world is a dark, dangerous place, and if you cross the wrong people, man, that's it.
seamus coughlin
I was gonna say, though, I mean, if you were a billionaire who was just okay with it all ending, this would be the coolest possible way to go out.
tim pool
True, true.
After Grimes left him, he was just like, I don't care anymore, it's just going off.
seamus coughlin
Oh, it's like- Elon, Elon, it gets better, alright?
lydia smith
Hang in there, buddy.
seamus coughlin
Hang in there, man.
tim pool
You guys ever see Bullworth?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
It's that movie where the politician hires an assassin.
ian crossland
Warren Beatty.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
He hires a guy to kill himself.
lydia smith
Oh my.
tim pool
So then he's just like drinking and doesn't care anymore.
Starts telling the truth and everyone loves it.
And then he doesn't want to die and he's like freaking out.
That movie was pretty good.
I liked it.
lydia smith
I'm starting to think that this is the reason that Elon Musk bought Twitter, so that he could just ish post all day long.
It's amazing.
He's going crazy.
unidentified
Couldn't he do that before?
ian crossland
Kind of.
unidentified
It's weird that they make him out, they say he's like a Republican.
Like he doesn't seem overly political, to be honest.
tim pool
He's outright called himself a socialist.
unidentified
Yeah.
Like he doesn't come off, his posts are a lot of like, you know, jokes and, but he doesn't seem super political.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Before the show I was thinking, dude creates rocket ships to space and Mars, people on earth complaining about what, what his politics are.
Like it's so insane that that's the focus when you could focus on the stuff he's building.
tim pool
Look at that Nina Jankowik's lady, the disinformation porn.
She pushes overt disinformation and has.
So she's supposedly like working, she's working for the Democrats.
When you look at Elon Musk, I think it's never been clearer that left and right don't mean anything about politics.
It means everything about whether you are on your knees for the establishment or challenging the establishment.
seamus coughlin
Also, Ian, you made an interesting point.
I would even take it a step further, because it's not even like he has this political agenda he's trying to force onto people.
In a lot of ways, he's virtually apolitically saying, let's just make neutral spaces.
That's not really a partisan stance.
ian crossland
And he's not greedy, either.
He gave his Tesla patents away, the free, the all-your-patents-belong-to-us move that he did.
tim pool
I gotta push back on Seamus.
Seamus, he is handing over one of the most influential messaging platforms to neo-Nazis.
seamus coughlin
Well, here's what I think Elon's going to do if they don't let him buy Twitter if something falls through.
He's going to build a rocket ship that projects, it's going to be like a space platform that projects whatever he writes into the sky, like LEDs.
unidentified
Have you seen the drones?
The fireworks drone?
seamus coughlin
They're replacing fireworks with drone kind of like that you can write stuff on you know over every city dude
tim pool
They're getting really three dimensional like they look like holograms
unidentified
Drone light show way cooler than fireworks from yeah, they're way cooler than fireworks and also you don't like blow your
hand off This is like two years old
Yeah, I know well they have the one that Bitcoin Miami they did
ian crossland
But in China, they're like oh yeah, cuz they can move really far really fast and draw lines in the sky and have
tim pool
Has anyone thought about the horror of just like someone like Elon getting a thousand drones and then being able to command them with gloves and like walking through New York and just like flinging drones?
ian crossland
That's Protoss, man.
That's how the Protoss moved their battlecruisers around there.
seamus coughlin
He could just hang them over someone's head like a rain cloud.
tim pool
No, no, he's like... He's wearing a trench coat and he's standing on several drones as he's floating through the city.
And then when anyone challenges him, he just points and a drone flies and slams into him.
ian crossland
Now we're talking Bezos level.
Bezos has the proprietary tech.
unidentified
We're giving Bezos ideas, actually.
ian crossland
Elon at least is freeing the software code of his stuff.
tim pool
Dude, if I was Bezos, I would legit be doing that.
I would make one of those hobgoblin gliders from Spider-Man.
And then I would just have drones and I'd be like...
ian crossland
Is he gonna set up his base in the Amazon?
Would you?
If you were Jeff Bezos, would you set up like a secret base in the Amazon?
tim pool
The Legion of Doom?
ian crossland
Well, I know he called his company Amazon, so I'm wondering if there's something more insidious going on.
I love you, Jeff.
I'm just joking.
seamus coughlin
What is it that, uh, I can't remember exactly how he put it.
What is it that Jeremy Boring said?
He's like, he's the most interesting guy in a boring way.
Like, he's the most boring, interesting guy about Bezos.
tim pool
Yeah, what did he say?
seamus coughlin
It's like he makes a rocket ship and it's not cool.
tim pool
That is funny though, Jeff.
He said, what did he?
Yeah, he put it really funny.
seamus coughlin
Butchered it.
We ruined your joke, Jeremy.
lydia smith
Sorry.
tim pool
So I took this out.
So people responded.
Well, when Elon Musk said, where's their client list?
Someone said, let's start with you.
And they show this photo where Ghislaine Maxwell is behind Elon.
And he says, that's a Vendee Fair party.
And she photobombed me in the background.
But you know that already, don't you?
And then someone responded, Skype Renee.
Elon doesn't know Ghislaine Maxwell at all.
She photobombed him once at a Vanity Fair party in 2014.
Real question is why Vanity Fair invited her in the first place, and he said, that is exactly the question.
lydia smith
Indeed.
tim pool
Dude, I think, I mean, you gotta, look, if Elon Musk is gonna come out and say, where's the client list?
I'm like, Elon, buy away, do what you wanna do.
Because it's one of the most important questions.
seamus coughlin
Yeah?
tim pool
That's not gonna be answered.
There's no serious, any serious journalist At the Washington Post, at the New York Times.
I'll say this right now to all of you.
I know that there are people at the New York Times who have been working there for two decades and you are upset about what's happening at your newspaper.
I know that there are people at the Washington Post who have been there for decades who are upset about what is happening to your newspaper.
Why don't you start demanding answers as to the client list for Maxwell and Epstein?
Why isn't there any interest from the Grey Lady, the paper of record, and all of these big publications to demand, if this woman is being convicted on this, she sold something to somebody, it's Elon Musk.
And he's the bad guy they're saying.
He's the bad guy.
unidentified
I think those people have families.
ian crossland
Yeah, when I look at Maria Farmer, who was one of the former victims of the, I don't know what you call it, child trafficking, racketeering thing they were doing, and she drew a painting called the Setiles, S-E-T-I-L-E-S.
Her name is Maria Farmer.
You search those three words together, you'll get this painting.
And it looks like she just painted all the guys, all the people that were there as part of it.
She doesn't have names, but I mean, I can't imagine anyone digging too deep into it, but this is the deepest I've seen.
And it's like, it's a really disturbing image.
It's got Ghislaine in the middle with a bubble around her, like she's invincible.
It's got Jeffrey Epstein's off up in the corner, like he's some space kid.
He was the fall guy for the whole thing.
He wasn't like, and then of course you got, I don't even like saying these names out loud, man, but you got Les Wexner right in the middle there under Ghislaine Maxwell, the Victoria's Secret guy.
And I think he was a big part of it.
But there's just no, I don't have the evidence, it's just this image.
tim pool
I want to pull up this story here we have about Bill Maher.
It's from the Daily Wire.
Bill Maher rips old Twitter, mocks Trudeau, and gives a shout-out to the Babylon Bee.
And this, I was watching this clip from Bill Maher when he was talking about Elon Musk and the purchasing and everything, and it made me realize what's happening with the establishment, what's happening with, you know, Elon.
The older, the boomer generation, they consume their news through cable television.
This is why there are so many people who are like, Tucker Carlson's far right, because these are older people who are only getting their news from CNN and MSNBC, and then Fox News is like the other side, so there's like three channels.
But most of us, the people our age, are on Twitter, are on Facebook, are on YouTube, so we're getting a big spattering of all this different news, but it's coming really quickly.
I saw this and Bill Maher, his confusion, like a doddering old man.
And I was just like, wow.
You know, I think it's fair to say one day we will all be old and confused.
But Bill Maher, he doesn't need to be.
So watching this, here's what happens.
Bill Maher says, Did you hear about this Babylon Bee?
It's Christian satire.
Everybody laughs.
And then his guest goes, oh yeah, because we need that.
And Bill goes, well, maybe some people do.
I'm not everybody.
Some people do need it.
And then I'm watching that and I'm like, Bill, did you not Google search this story when it happened?
Are you just now finding out, after Elon already bought Twitter, what the Babylon Bee is?
And I wondered why it is.
Well, CNN won't report on what the Babylon Bee is.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
So for someone like Bill Maher, who's a 60-year-old boomer, who gets his news from the New York Times physical paper edition and from cable television, he just now found out about the Babylon Bee.
It was March 20th.
Elon was like, should we have free speech and stuff like that, that he was asking these questions, that the Babylon Bee was in the news.
And we were all watching in real time this progress of Elon Musk And Bill Maher, one of the most prominent shows, he's confused and just now finding out about this.
ian crossland
Isn't his show called Real Time?
tim pool
Yeah, a month later.
I'm not trying to rag on him.
I think it's just you got to point out that he's in a different world.
ian crossland
Who's his boss?
tim pool
Well, look, he's in a different world.
And now think about what that means for every other news story.
Think about what that means for Hunter Biden's laptop.
Think about what that means for Epstein.
All of these boomers, they vote, and they mostly vote.
They vote way more than young people, and they don't know Half of what we know.
They don't know a tenth of what we know.
Because we all saw the Epstein story in real time.
And Bill Maher probably never saw it.
I mean, I'm being hyperbolic, but Bill Maher probably sees it a month later and he's like, what's going on with this?
And it's like, Bill, that was a month ago.
ian crossland
Yeah, it seems like it's like a safety mechanism to wait to let the news out a month later, like the Hunter Biden laptop thing.
They wanted to just hold it for a month.
unidentified
Granted, it was right before the election.
ian crossland
Once it's a month late, it just doesn't have the fire, doesn't have the heat, like the iron's no longer hot.
tim pool
Bill Maher has called out The Woke.
He's criticized this stuff.
The fact that he's done that, I think, shows he's willing to, but he's like an old man who's looking at his phone being like, I can't press the button!
And it's like, he's just not on these platforms.
ian crossland
He works for Warner Brothers.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
He even said, I've heard him say this, like, you know, there's only so much I can really get away with.
I have corporate, you know, my... John Corporation writes my check.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
But if he's talking about the Babylon Bee now, he could have talked about the Babylon Bee a month ago when the story broke.
unidentified
Was he talking about the Rachel Levine thing?
Like, and them getting together?
tim pool
He's talking about how Babylon Bee Made a satirical video about Twitter employees freaking out.
And it's actually really funny.
The Twitter health expert, he's got a Rorschach test.
I'm like, what do you see?
And she's like, Nazis.
Nazis.
Hitler.
Nazis.
That one looks like lips.
seamus coughlin
I hope people don't think that guy works for Twitter too.
tim pool
But it's really funny because the bit was really good.
He's like, tell me, do you see Elon here now?
And she's like, she looks at a tennis ball, it's got Elon's face.
She looks at like an employee pamphlet on the wall and it's got Elon on it.
It was actually really funny.
But Bill Maher was mentioning that Twitter flagged it as sensitive content.
And he was like, it's a satirical video mocking you for being too sensitive.
unidentified
And you flagged it as sensitive material.
tim pool
I'm just look, that's fine. He's speaking up. He's calling it out. But why a month late?
The point is, I think Bill's a good dude. I think, you know, to a certain extent he's trying.
But if the boomer generation isn't paying attention, because we had Richie McGinnis and his
mom on and Richie's mom, also a boomer, didn't know about what was going on with today's politics.
The boomer generation is like, I think they're just totally different realities.
For the most part.
ian crossland
He's incentivized to not dig too deep.
Like his original show, uh, what was it?
unidentified
Politically Incorrect.
ian crossland
Politically Incorrect got canceled.
He went hard on 9-11 and like, if he did that today, if he came out and was like, let's talk about the deep state and the military industrial complex.
They'd be like, yeah, Warner Brothers would be like, this is a little too racy.
unidentified
Although I think Real Time really is just that show renamed, but just a little That's a little softer.
tim pool
You remember when Dennis Prager was on Bill Maher?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I think it was like 2017 and he was like, the left is lying, they're lying.
And he's like, a man cannot menstruate, they're lying!
And then everyone laughs.
unidentified
Yeah, everybody's humiliating him.
tim pool
And then Bill Maher goes, wait, wait, wait, what are you talking about?
And Prager mentions that at university bathrooms they were putting tampons in the men's room.
And Bill says, that's for men to bring to their girlfriends.
That one really frustrated me because the story was actually at that point like seven years old about bathrooms with tampons, men's rooms with tampons.
But this is exactly what I think we see.
I'm not trying to say that every single boom or anything like that.
I'm saying on average, if you look at the average age of a cable TV news viewer, it's 62 to 69 or whatever.
They're consuming all their news from the likes of Don Lemon.
Yo, that's not going to work out well for us.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, also with Bill Maher's response that they're just putting them in there so guys can get tampons for their girlfriends or their girlfriend could just go to the girl's bathroom right next to it.
That makes no sense as an explanation.
That's like the most ridiculous, I don't want to believe what I'm being told answer I've ever heard.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a crazy explanation.
tim pool
I think Dennis could have been more prepared, but sometimes you're in these moments and you make a point, and you're not prepared to back it up.
So when they were like, where, what are you talking about?
I said, just look it up.
It's like, I could tell you, oh, it's September 2016, the Daily Beast wrote up that we have to do it.
Look that up specifically.
Side note, the Daily Beast is now listed as fake news by Newsguard.
I love it.
ian crossland
I get this dynamic with comedians sometimes where they'll be like, they'll say something stupid or irrelevant and then if you start to make fun of them, they're like, come on, it was a joke, you moron.
But then if you say something stupid or irrelevant, they're like, you stupid idiot.
unidentified
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, where they go like, I was just a goof!
tim pool
You know what is dangerous for post-liberal, whatever this freedom faction is, I don't know, they say left and right and I'm like, I don't even know, it doesn't explain anything to anybody, but the side that believes in freedom.
What's dangerous is that we see the CNN news stories about the insurrection.
And MSNBC and Rachel Maddow, and we all laugh like, that's so dumb, no one cares.
And then you look at their ratings and you're like, CNN and MSNBC get like 400 million combined views on YouTube every month.
And we get, I think, 60.
So, I mean we're doing well, but it's mostly young people.
These older people are gonna vote, and they're gonna vote based on some weird insurrection narrative.
ian crossland
Other than voting, the people that watch this show, for the most part, are listening to what we're saying.
Word by word, it's all registering and they're remembering.
When you have these other shows that get propped up, it's like in one ear and out the other.
Not necessarily every time, but it seems to be.
unidentified
And this is also, for a lot of, I think, your listeners, this is just a piece to an overall puzzle.
They take this piece of information, they take pieces of information from other places, whereas someone on CNN, they're just like, I watch CNN, they give me my opinions, and those are my opinions.
And maybe I watch MSNBC, but for the most part, They're not kind of like going and sourcing it from... Well, this is one of the things that Richie's mom was bringing up.
lydia smith
She was saying that there used to only be like three networks and you trusted them and they said things in a very kind of reassuring way and you felt confident in what they were telling you.
And I think a lot of that has carried over for boomers, which has turned into a huge problem because they can just now tell them whatever they want to and they'll just believe it.
Like, it's a little unsettling.
ian crossland
I was talking to my mom about some awesome stuff about this.
Like just cool.
Like, let's talk about conspiracy.
She was like, Ian, man, if I was 20, I'd be, I'd be okay.
I'd be into it.
But it's just, it's just, I'm, I'm, I'm done.
unidentified
I'm ready to, I finally got my mom to go on Twitter.
Actually.
I convinced her.
seamus coughlin
Why would you do that to her?
unidentified
Cause I kept saying, cause she would, she's like, you know, the classic, do you get the emails from like, you ever get, my mom just sends me emails with these articles.
Okay.
She goes, this is interesting.
And I was like, yeah, I read this on Twitter like a week and a half ago.
Yeah.
This is, you know, but that's new to her because that's like the delay on the cycle.
seamus coughlin
That's what Bill Maher's doing.
unidentified
Kind of, kind of is.
And I go, you need to go on Twitter just and you can, you know, cut out this delay and get the news kind of off the
seamus coughlin
source.
ian crossland
Far superior way to get the news.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
Let me give a shout out to Michael Malice here.
He's got this tweet.
He says, the ministry of truth demonstrates the growing inability of the cathedral to persuade
and an increasing need to just explicitly tell people what to believe. People have gone from
arguing to either ignoring or presuming, not incorrectly, that it's all disingenuous propaganda
at best. We're at the point now where I think on both sides, people are just absolutely unwilling
to hear what the other point is being made at all.
And my view of what is colloquially referred to as the right, which is this large faction of mostly like some kind of libertarian, is that they want proof, they want sources. Back up your
source, back up your claim. Not all of them.
There's a group of Trump supporters who believe absolutely insane things, and you can see them
out there at the rallies with, Trump's going to be president on this day or whatever, and it never
happens. But next time it will. But sure. But I think that's the exception, not the rule.
On the left, it's the inverse.
The average person on the left believes every single fake story.
I'm really interested.
We've got some lefties coming on the show soon that we're booking, and I think it's going to be really interesting for me to be like, hey, Trayvon Martin's story.
Zimmerman.
Did you believe that?
You did?
Okay, well, NBC edited the audio to make Zimmerman seem racist, and he's Hispanic.
How about Covington Kids, did you believe that?
Well, we learned that was fake news.
Justice Millett, all these people came out and supported him, that was fake news.
Russiagate, fake news.
Ukrainegate, fake news.
How many... Ghost of Kiev.
seamus coughlin
Isn't that back?
tim pool
Fake news!
unidentified
Are they doing that again, the Ghost of Kiev?
seamus coughlin
I think they just are too.
They admitted it was fake.
So my point is... Now that the Ministry of Truth is out and about, they're like, oh, we gotta play it close here.
tim pool
This is the only thing I can surmise.
When the Washington Post says, or the Media Matters smears the whole show over something like, you know, Seamus says, as right-wing or far-right or grifting, I'm like, I guess the only thing that defines what it is to be left or right is, do you fall for bullish or do you wait for evidence?
ian crossland
Yeah, Thomas Massey pointed out that Congress basically split between the logical people and the emotional people, and a lot of them are leading with emotion.
But either extreme is dangerous.
Too much emotion, you don't care about the facts.
And then too much logic, you don't care about how people feel.
You might end up experimenting on human bodies to get your...
tim pool
We've seen societies that are only driven by logic and they put people's arms into sub-zero temperatures to watch them freeze while still attached to their bodies.
I want to give a shout-out, though, to all of the media outlets that were trying to smear me for defending Kyle Rittenhouse.
Prove my point.
I was right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It wasn't about being conservative or liberal.
It was like, hey, I watched a video and here's what really happened.
Kyle was defending himself.
Then they all come out and they scream the far right because they're lying nonstop.
Then it turns out to be correct.
So I'm really fascinated.
This is what the left and the right is.
Name a left-wing political position?
Irrelevant.
I can sit here all day and we can talk about taxation and, you know, social policy or whatever.
But the real question is, which stories did you fall for?
If you don't fall for the lies, you're right-wing.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, you're correct that their positions are irrelevant in many ways, and even they will acknowledge this.
So on the one hand, whenever anyone points out that there's a problem with the far left, their response is, oh, why?
Because we want free healthcare?
Like, what does the far left even mean?
And then someone like Tim comes out and says, hey, I'm actually in favor of free healthcare as well, but they still call you far right because you don't fall for the same stories they do.
tim pool
That's the weirdest thing.
What is what is what is right and left?
unidentified
Yeah.
What do you think of?
So there's this disinformation governance board.
I don't know if you guys talked about this, but what happens when the next president is Trump or DeSantis and he goes, OK, we have this disinformation governance board.
She's out.
My guy's in.
seamus coughlin
It's insane.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I think if it's Trump or DeSantis, they might just dissolve it instantly.
unidentified
But I'm just saying hypothetically.
tim pool
Mitt Romney, if it was Mitt Romney, somehow gets elected, then he's going to be like, it's time to put on a new guy who's going to talk about what's the real truth.
If it's DeSantis or Trump, Trump's going to be like, I'm getting rid of it.
It's wrong.
unidentified
But imagine the hysterics if he goes, yeah, you guys, great idea, everyone.
Last administration, I love this idea.
Here's my guy.
tim pool
But that was true back when the establishment were playing a game of hot potato.
When it was like John McCain versus Obama.
It was just chill establishment.
Didn't matter who came into power.
You know, George W. Bush comes in with all these wars and Barack Obama's like, we're gonna change it.
Then gets in and is like, I'm gonna kill kids instead.
Then Barack Obama signs the indefinite detention provisions.
Then Barack Obama increases the drone attacks.
And you know that if a Republican like Mitt Romney were to win, it wouldn't matter.
But then Trump won, and he broke these people.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so we were sort of talking about that the other day, and I don't think that's an effective thing to say to left-wingers, unfortunately, because they know that while right-wingers could use that power to be authoritarian and suppress them, that they actually need that power in order to survive.
Because in order for left-wing orthodoxy to flourish, you basically have to scare people into pretending to believe something else, because no one's going to voluntarily agree to the idea that Children should change their genders, not the number that people are giving assent to it now.
tim pool
Well, this is the crazy thing that two things occur.
When I made a point on Twitter, I said, it's crazy that if you believe children shouldn't be getting sex change surgery, you're considered right-wing.
Two things happened.
One, I got called a transphobe.
And two, people were like, that's not happening.
You're lying.
The left isn't doing that.
And the response to every single person who says that is someone showing a news story talking about medical intervention, chemical, or surgical.
And it's literally happening.
So either you're a lying grifter who's pushing right-wing talking points to your right wing, or you're a transphobe to your right wing.
And I'm like, dude, okay, whatever, I guess.
seamus coughlin
Right, the quintessential left-wing position.
That's not happening, but it's good that it's happening.
You're bad for opposing it.
ian crossland
I don't think it's transphobic to care about, to protect children from, you know, gender surgery, sexual surgeries at that point.
You know, being transphobic is like meeting someone that's an adult person that's trans and being like, I don't want to be anywhere near that person or I'm going to talk crap about them.
tim pool
We do have a bunch of stories specifically addressing that in schools, but I do want to focus on this real quick while we're talking about like media manipulation and lies.
We have this from the New York Post.
New CNN boss Chris Licht to focus on truth after slew of scandals.
Chris?
It is honorable that you would try to purge CNN of its trash, but you will never, you will never save that brand.
I'm sorry.
CNN's new boss kicked off his first day on the job by telling employees he wants to focus the network's reporting on news and truth amid criticism over the scandal-scarred network's heavy emphasis on opinion-based shows.
Chris Lick, to officially replace CNN's disgraced boss Zucker on Monday, A following stint as executive producer at the Late Show with Stephen Colbert in CBS This Morning circulated a memo to his employees saying, I think we can be a beacon in regaining that trust by being an organization that exemplifies the best characteristics of journalism.
Fearlessly speaking truth to power, challenging the status quo, questioning groupthink, and educating viewers and readers with straightforward facts and insightful commentary, while always being respectful of differing viewpoints.
First and foremost, we should and we will be advocates for the truth. You know why he's saying that?
Because the dude who now owns the majority shareholder in Warner Discovery
Said he wanted to or something happened where it came out.
It was reported He wanted to purge all of the opinion lefty garbage from
CNN. So this guy's like I don't want to lose my job. I I believe in truth!
As if I'm ever going to go to CNN for truth.
ian crossland
This is why I can't stand the subjectivity of truth.
Truth is not an objective state.
Reality is objective, but the way you perceive it is your truth.
So people are going to see reality in different ways.
For one person to attempt to arbitrate that is insanity.
tim pool
Here come the ones.
ian crossland
Give me the ones.
Give me all the ones.
unidentified
Give me 20 of them.
Also, what would CNN be?
Like, what does he envision CNN to be?
With, you know, he's like, it's gonna be this truth and you're gonna purge all the, like, in this scenario where it's all purging all these, like, you know, the far, like, what is it gonna become?
tim pool
Just TV?
ian crossland
Late Night with Stephen Colbert?
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
ian crossland
Part 2, apparently.
tim pool
Exactly.
How could this guy have worked on Colbert think he's gonna, everyone's gonna trust him?
unidentified
He probably did the vaccine dance.
Yeah, seriously.
Yeah, I know.
I think he did.
tim pool
That was probably him.
Who was it who did the Fauci thing where they were dancing and they had the thing that they spread it open and they were spinning with it and it was like a big picture of Fauci's face?
ian crossland
James Corden.
unidentified
It's just like, you know, it's the Jeff Bezos.
tim pool
You know, it's going, it's, it's, it's the Jeff Bezos.
You know, it's like these shows like Colbert, they exemplify that
joke Jeremy Boring made about Bezos.
They're wealthy and powerful, but just so not cool.
And it's just absolute cringe.
You know, seriously, when Colbert, for those who didn't see it, he did this thing where he had like, what was it, like women and men dressed up like syringes dancing?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, geez.
seamus coughlin
And it was like that.
He's so zany, I can't believe he went there.
Who are they?
tim pool
I have a couple questions, though.
Did they do any market research?
And if they did, who were they targeting?
Are there like, there's no one my age.
I can't imagine anybody in the key demo is watching that going like, I enjoy this.
seamus coughlin
Colbert.
unidentified
Whoever watches it, like the people who like Colbert probably were like, this is great.
ian crossland
I always thought he was trash.
Like on the Daily Show when he got his start as a correspondent, he was just a liar and a fake.
He was doing comedy, but he was a liar.
unidentified
He was doing a camera.
ian crossland
Yeah, then he got his new show where he's playing the Republican fake guy and he tells people he would literally he was like satire show But he would say things that he didn't believe as they were real and like just screw people's minds Bull crap artist and then he's on this show like we're supposed to all of a sudden believe anything out of this guy He's a trash liar for a job I mean, maybe he's a nice funny guy, but I've never seen him like dig under the surface He was great on strangers with candy if you ever saw that guy I couldn't bring myself to watch.
Actually, it did look like he was pretty good in that movie.
As an actor, I think he's a talented actor.
As you can see, he's playing a role.
No, his new show is as bad as it gets.
I've never trusted him.
I made a video in 06 about this, about Colbert's artistry, his crap artistry.
I've never liked that guy.
And when Jack Posobiec came on here and said that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were the spearheads of the politicization of comedy, I think that makes so much sense.
seamus coughlin
No, I was just going to say that I remember years ago, we talked about this on the show a little while ago actually on this episode about the whole clown nose on clown nose off thing that a lot of these late night hosts and particularly Jon Stewart would do.
I remember he got into a debate with Tucker Carlson and he was grilling Tucker and Tucker starts pointing out factual inaccuracies with Jon Stewart's show and his reporting and he goes, Because it's a comedy show.
It's like, oh, was that the bit?
Was that the bit that you were getting facts wrong on purpose?
No, you wanted your audience to think that that was true.
The jokes were in other parts of the program.
That's exactly what we're talking about.
That's so obnoxious.
ian crossland
Stuart is one of those guys that he'll say something, and then if you dig into him, he's like, hey, I'm a comedian!
Lay off, idiot.
But then if you say it, he's like, no!
He'll try and throw his weight of being popular at you.
It's really gross.
seamus coughlin
And it's like, it's fine to do jokes and politics, right?
But if you're saying something that you intend for people to believe as true, and it turns out to be false, you don't get to fall back on it.
Oh, come on, man.
I make jokes.
Don't take anything I say seriously.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
No, I don't like it.
lydia smith
Well, this is the embodiment of that obnoxious kid when you were younger being like, you know, I'm just playing, you know, I'm just playing.
I'm just joking.
But if he can get away with it, he will.
So this is classic.
I love you, Danny.
But comedians sometimes do this where they like to pull up the ladder after them.
I don't know if you've noticed this, but these are like the worst blanks.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I have noticed that.
lydia smith
They pull up the ladder after them.
And I really feel like this is just like Literally so many of my favorite comedians.
seamus coughlin
All of them!
It's all of them.
unidentified
Like David Gross used to be literally my favorite comedian and now and he did all the stuff where he's almost like he's now apologizing for everything he did and he's like everything I did that was so funny eight years ago is you know all cancelable stuff.
ian crossland
Or like the guy that took all the psychedelics and he's like, hey, don't do psychedelics.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
I had a great time.
Like the 90s were a great decade, but you were just water for you, you know?
tim pool
I've been, I'm wondering though, like if this can last.
So I pulled up Colbert's ratings.
He had a total average viewer of 2.95 million, and this was reported as of June 9th of 2021.
Last year he was getting 2.95 million and I'm like, that's the live plus seven race.
I don't know what that means.
Is that key demo or something?
You know, look at this adult.
Here we go.
Adults across 25 to 54.
25 to 54 the late show wins with a 0.5 with 614,000 viewers against Jimmy
Kimmel's live with 489,000 and the tonight's shows with Okay, that makes sense.
So, Colbert beats Kimmel and Fallon with a 0.2 over their 0.1s.
I don't know what that means, and they don't give me the full... I think that's like the share... the decimal is like... No, look at this, look at this.
Across total viewers, late night averaged 1 million viewers over the season.
So is that Colbert?
Is he late night?
unidentified
No, that was Corden's.
I think you said Late Night.
tim pool
No, look.
Oh, it's Myers' Late Night.
unidentified
Myers' Late Night.
tim pool
And Corden's Late Late Show.
ian crossland
These are so similar names.
It's such crap.
tim pool
I know, it's so stupid.
But it does look like, in the key demo, it is only like half a million viewers.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I don't know anybody who watches these shows.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I was going to say, it's crazy.
tim pool
But those are people our age.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, also you get as many watchers as these like super highly produced, you know, insane budget shows.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, it's amazing.
tim pool
Our margins are incredible.
We're putting, we're doing crazy stuff with it.
I can't say exactly what we're doing, but we're doing some infrastructure stuff right now.
unidentified
Dancing syringes.
Yeah, that's right.
seamus coughlin
Dude, that's such a good bit.
Who tops syringes?
You went to Colbert's yard sale.
unidentified
I will hire 1,000 people to dress up like syringes and dance in D.C.
seamus coughlin
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
I will hire 1000 people to dress up like syringes and dance in DC.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
Oh my goodness.
No, dude, that's the thing.
Like the late night show every now and again, there's some late night stuff that, that at
least was decent in the past.
So I thought Conan was pretty funny, but like I wasn't tuning in every night.
It's a weird format because like an incredibly good comedian can maybe churn out an hour a year and you've got you have these comedians have to go on stage every night and do like 45 minutes of material it's just even if they're good and they're not ideologues it's not going to be good.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a good point.
It used to be an interview show.
We talked about this last week, and now the interview format is on YouTube.
People make their own.
Johnny Depp doesn't need to wait to get invited on The Tonight Show to talk to the crowd.
He can just make a YouTube video.
unidentified
And they're promoting stuff always, right?
They're like, hey, I'm promoting my movie.
And you're like, why am I watching you talk about your movie?
ian crossland
It's kind of like when people would write reviews about video games.
I mean, people still trying to do that.
You just go to YouTube and watch the gameplay footage.
If I want to see if the movie's good, I just go to YouTube and watch the clips.
tim pool
I just had a crazy idea, I think we should do it, is to have bands.
seamus coughlin
Have bands?
tim pool
Yeah.
Like these shows will periodically be like, you know, we have a musical guest to play music or whatever.
Friday nights maybe, like we used to do the Friday jams back in the day.
We'll do a Friday night show and then we'll also have a musical guest to perform afterwards, play music, and we'll just start taking over this space I guess.
ian crossland
It's gotta be, like, not family-friendly.
That's a big problem with these shows, is they can't say the wrong thing.
You can't give the middle finger to the people during the show.
tim pool
Meanwhile, you don't do it.
ian crossland
I know, you see?
But if we're gonna do, like, just hardcore rock scene, bring it back.
Full-on, getting people naked on stage.
tim pool
He swore!
ian crossland
I get one a month.
But just, yeah, I'm all about it.
Let's bring the real back to reality.
tim pool
Well, look, I can... Studio audience?
seamus coughlin
Live studio audience?
tim pool
I mean, we could.
unidentified
Chickens?
Chickens as the audience?
tim pool
We've talked about doing Friday nights at a venue and doing it like a live thing.
I'll explain this to people who don't know because I know a lot of people probably do.
The reason we try not to swear is not because we're worried about YouTube or anything.
It's because there are people who listen to this on their way to work or picking up their kids.
And I actually had, we got people emailing being like, Hey man, I love your show.
But like, when you guys say these things, I don't want my kids to hear that.
And I'm like, that's a fair point.
You know, if we don't have to swear, we shouldn't swear.
ian crossland
About swearing and profanity, I find some things can be profane without the cuss words.
Like, you can say things that are very graphic sexually that aren't cussing, but way worse for a kid to hear than saying the F word.
Totally agreed.
tim pool
And action movies with death and murder and stuff.
unidentified
I think with parents too, they don't even care so much about the word.
It's the fact that now the kid just says it all the time, and they don't really get it, and then it's just an inconvenience.
Interesting.
ian crossland
Yeah, the F word has a lot of different meanings depending on how you use it.
unidentified
It's one of the most versatile.
ian crossland
Is it an adjective?
It's a verb?
tim pool
We actually have a story to talk about with kids and stuff.
We have this from the New York Times.
It is how a debut graphic memoir became the most banned book in the country.
unidentified
That's crazy!
tim pool
Maya Kobabi's book, Genderqueer, about coming out as a non-binary, landed the author at the center of a battle over which books belong in schools and who gets to make the decision.
So I don't know if you could pull that up and we can show the image.
lydia smith
Can we?
tim pool
What?
It's just the article from the New York Times.
So the issue here is the New York Times won't actually show you what's in the book.
Because what actually got this book banned from libraries is sexually graphic images and the books directed at minors.
I can only describe it that way.
If I were to actually say what the book showed, then parents would probably be upset, which I can respect, but YouTube absolutely would give us a flag.
A million percent.
So what'll happen is, when the show's over, We'll go, and it'll give us the yellow demonetization thing, and we gotta request it.
If I describe to you the images in the book because they're sexually graphic, we will get confirmed demonetized, and the clip from the show will also be demonetized, and you could potentially, YouTube will punish you with downranking.
So, they used to do this in the past where they would apply codes to your channel, which would make it harder for people, like shadowbanning, basically.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
If I tell you what's in the book, and this book showing sexually graphic images was being put in school libraries, and when people complain about it, the New York Times defends the book, doesn't show any of the images.
Why?
Could you imagine what would happen to the New York Times if they showed these graphic images?
It's people doing things.
It is cartoon images drawn by the author showing people engaging in Activities, we'll call it that.
It's young people though, isn't it?
One depicts minors.
One of the images.
I think they both might depict minors.
unidentified
What makes this the most banned book?
Think about what they're saying with this.
tim pool
A book with sexually graphic materials was in a children's school library when it got removed.
It's the most banned book!
Yeah, well, Hustler's not allowed in the school library either.
unidentified
Yeah, Hustler's definitely more of a banned book.
Yeah.
Better articles, too.
ian crossland
Oh, but Hustler was never put in and then banned, so technically it wasn't.
unidentified
Right, right, technically, yeah.
tim pool
No, it was always banned.
unidentified
It's a started out ban.
ian crossland
It was never allowed.
tim pool
So where is the line?
And this is why I think when it comes to left and right, it's just literally tribe.
It's like, do you bend the knee to what the left is?
Because if a kid walked into a grade school with a hustler, the teachers would freak out.
If a kid walks in with this book, well, it's educational.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's not just the kid walking in with it.
It's the teacher walking in with it and showing it to the kids.
tim pool
Right, dude?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
No, I'm serious.
They should be in prison.
You are a danger to society and you're a danger to children if you're showing them pornographic images.
lydia smith
Yes.
seamus coughlin
That's it.
ian crossland
Hustler, for instance, is nudity.
This is actual sex.
This book is showing it's cartoon sex, but it's sexuality.
seamus coughlin
That's a little different than nudity.
Are they actually depicting minors in these cartoon images?
In these drawings they're doing?
tim pool
I'm pretty sure the most notorious image from this, which depicts an adult activity between two people, is their minors.
ian crossland
I'm pretty sure the point of the book is... If you can't tell, you've got to err on the side of, yes, they're a minor.
It's called lolly.
You can't mess with cartoons of young-looking people.
tim pool
But look at this.
This woman here.
The New York Times gets this woman to come out.
Her name is Mandy Zhang of Wappinger's Fall.
New York is planning to start a band book club.
Hey, alright, we can show up and bring Playboy with us because that's not allowed in schools either, right?
This is a fascinating thing to me because I hear this argument from the left where they're like, They're trying to ban books, and I'm like, there are tons of books that are legitimately banned from these schools.
When they talk about wanting to ban critical race theory books, just as a blanket statement, I can't remember who he had on the show, but I was like, I don't wanna do that.
I think schools, depending on the age, should critically discuss what this book is.
My issue is when they inject the ideology into their classes without telling you what they're teaching you is the praxis of critical race theory.
I don't want books banned, but here's my point.
It's not a banned book club to bring porn.
You're like these these books are actually that's a great sounds like an awesome book.
unidentified
I've never considered joining a book club.
tim pool
So we got two comedians to make content you can you can either of you can take it where people are like it's a banned book club and the book I bought is Playboy.
seamus coughlin
But like they're literally no they're making the argument for why the book should be banned too.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
What do you mean?
seamus coughlin
They just don't realize it.
Like, they're making an argument in favor of banning books because when you use the phrase book ban, it doesn't really have a positive connotation.
You're like, there's this book ban, look what's on it!
You're like, maybe we should have a book ban.
unidentified
Maybe we should.
seamus coughlin
Maybe you shouldn't let children look at everything in schools.
ian crossland
It's easy to make your own book now, too.
So any psycho can make a book about crazy stuff, get it in under the censor radar.
Like Amazon, you can publish your own stuff on Amazon.
tim pool
If you posted these pictures on Instagram, they would ban you.
They would delete the post and give you a warning.
seamus coughlin
Well, and look, you had Amazon Insiders complaining about Matt Walsh's book, Johnny the Walrus, being number one.
And if I'm not mistaken, they were actually trying to derank that?
tim pool
I don't know about deranking, but they got it removed from children's.
seamus coughlin
Okay, yeah, so they had it removed from the children's section, so that's not acceptable.
But showing graphic lewd images, as far as we understand, which actually depict minors, is acceptable.
That is hideously disgusting.
ian crossland
Is there a way for people to find this image so they know what we're talking about without actually having to show it?
seamus coughlin
No, yeah, I mean if you if you Google search it.
I only want to encourage people to look for it.
lydia smith
It's not good to know.
ian crossland
Know thine enemy.
lydia smith
You do need to know what's in this book because the way the New York Times is painting this is they took a picture that she didn't even put in the book and they said, oh, this is what the artist draws.
It's like, oh, mom, I think I might be bi.
Oh, that's so sweet.
How could Republicans possibly want to ban this?
If this is actually what's in the book, that's crazy.
They're just being mean.
But that is not what's in the book.
And I was so relieved to see that this tweet that the New York Times put out about this article got freaking ratioed right to heck because everyone's like, this is what's actually in the book.
I was like, did you guys put the picture in the article?
Of course they didn't.
unidentified
Can you scroll?
Does it say 18 years and up?
lydia smith
Yes, it does.
It does indeed.
unidentified
Where does it say that?
It says right there, 18 years and up.
tim pool
Where exactly is it?
unidentified
Reading Age and the icons.
Which way?
These?
No, all the row of icons.
lydia smith
Oh, here, here, here.
unidentified
And it's not a kid's book.
They say historical and biographical fiction graphic novel.
tim pool
So 18 years and up.
So why would anyone complain that it's not allowed in schools?
seamus coughlin
Because they're perverts who want to groom kids.
That's literally it.
ian crossland
Or they're ignorant and they're foot soldiers for a mass movement of psychosis.
I've been overusing that word, psychosis, I know that it is.
lydia smith
I don't think it's possible to lose this book and claim ignorance.
tim pool
Dozens of schools pulled it from library shelves.
Republican officials in North and South Carolina, Texas and Virginia called for the book's removal, sometimes labeling it pornographic.
Suddenly, Kababé was at the center of a nationwide battle over which books belong in schools.
Yo, Amazon says 18 and up!
seamus coughlin
The scandal is that these were in schools in the first place.
unidentified
Isn't there constantly, too, like a blue state, red state debate where, you know, blue states go, these are the books we don't think are appropriate.
And, you know, it'll be like Huckleberry Finn or something.
Or whatever, you know, like they just, they kind of go back and forth and they just, it's weird that they have their, it's usually race and sex.
tim pool
But hold on, hold on.
Look, if the left, this is the derangement and the twisted nature of the activist left.
Any leftist could come out and start speaking out against this and be like, this book shouldn't have been in there.
We don't see it.
We see the defense of it.
We see the New York Times defense of it.
They do come out and talk about, you know, Huckleberry Finn.
Oh, it's got old racist terminology.
It shouldn't be in the schools.
It's racist and insensitive.
There was a big story about a kid who complained because they had to read the book and the book uses the N-word.
And it's just like, okay.
That's a book which is contextual history.
It was written for a period, during a period, and we can address that critically and talk about it.
That's fair.
This book is literally labeled 18 and up and depicts sex acts between people, and that shouldn't be for children.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and it's just something some pervert made because they want to show children and warp them.
It's not as if this is something that's part of America's foundational classical literature that it would be important for a kid to know.
ian crossland
What concerns me is when someone is warped as a child and then grows up and warps children the same way they were warped.
Like, the cycle of abuse, you know, physical abuse, a kid's beat by their parents, they grow up and then they beat their kids.
I hate to see the same thing happen with sexual abuse.
And I'm not saying that transgenderism is sexual abuse, but I would be afraid that some of it may be... No, no, it's the exploitation.
When people are abused, their minds get pretty crazy sometimes.
tim pool
When you have abusers masquerading as the LGBTQ positive whatever, we've seen this.
They try and sneak it under the radar.
They make people look bad.
They make the whole community look bad.
But I think the left is so instinctive to defend any and all, you end up with bad people getting away with bad things because they'll just feign being part of some community.
I want to mention Huckleberry Finn's in the Library of Congress.
1876 published.
Mark Twain.
ian crossland
I read like the first third of the book.
I remember it was awesome.
unidentified
I honestly, I'm trying to think now too.
I'm like, I honestly think when I was in high school, maybe not, maybe elementary school, but we did read it and like, you know, you read it out loud and I was like, man, if you were that kid who got that page.
ian crossland
Is that the one where, damn, where Huck was going down the river on the raft with Jim?
Is that Huck and Jim on the river?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That book's amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, yeah, it's all the time, but yeah, it's like if you, especially now.
tim pool
PBS banned Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.
Why is Huck Finn constantly consistently landed on the list of banned and challenged books?
Because it talks about race and stuff like that.
ian crossland
It uses the N word.
But I mean, absolutely.
But it's in a, the Jim is like the black guy and they're good friends.
Huck like has massive respect for the guy.
seamus coughlin
Wait, isn't the point of the story that he's belittled for his race and it's completely unfair?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, he sees past that.
ian crossland
It's such a good book, man.
I didn't finish the book, but it was so good.
unidentified
I mean, it wasn't that good.
ian crossland
I was 12, I think, when I read it.
tim pool
Can't allow it, but adult material that Amazon says is for 18 and up... Can we just... Can I... My friends...
If ever someone comes to you and they're like, what are you talking about?
And you know, what's going on?
And they don't believe you when you tell them weird stuff's happening.
Just go to Amazon, look up the book Genderqueer and say, what age is the recommendation?
And uh, whoa, this just came out.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Whoa, this just broke right now.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Let me just finish that point.
lydia smith
Yeah, finish your point.
tim pool
Show them the genderqueer thing.
This is groundbreaking, but show them the genderqueer thing, show them the banning from schools, and show them the outrage.
And ladies and gentlemen, do we have major breaking news!
Roe v. Wade is gone!
seamus coughlin
Yeah, baby!
Oh, that is beautiful.
That is a very good day for this country.
tim pool
That is incredible.
lydia smith
I want to read more.
I just saw the first tweet.
seamus coughlin
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Supreme Court has voted to overturn Roe v. Wade.
We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled, Justice Alito writes.
Initial majority draft circulated inside the court.
unidentified
Oh my, this is nuts.
seamus coughlin
This is incredible.
tim pool
Now, here's the funny thing.
Whenever issues of left and right comes up, they say, when is Tim going to defend abortion rights?
And I just want to say one thing very clearly.
When they come out and they're like, the left hasn't gone left and the right has gone right, my entire life, the Republicans wanted to ban abortion outright.
Do you know what the Republicans want to do today?
They've gone so far right, they want to ban abortion still.
That hasn't changed.
The left used to be in favor of some restrictions, like a compromise.
Now they want it completely unrestricted.
I'm not going to defend you on that.
I want restrictions.
So here's where we are.
This is 8.32 p.m.
breaking.
The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision.
unidentified
This is nuts!
tim pool
According to initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito, the draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision, which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, that largely maintained that right.
Wow!
We hold that Rowan Casey must be overruled.
He writes in the document labeled as the opinion of the court it is time to heed the constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people's elected representatives.
I just want to point out like during the show Lydia will like pull up a story it's like something's happening but usually it's like oh we'll get to that and then I saw this and I'm like trying to make my point and I'm just like So what's it saying, that it becomes a state issue?
unidentified
State to state?
lydia smith
Yes, yes.
ian crossland
And this is because they strike down Roe v. Wade, everything that every subsequent court hearing that was based on Roe v. Wade is now struck as well?
unidentified
Yeah.
We're saying it'll be what, in two months from now?
ian crossland
Planned?
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
There's gonna be a lot of abortions between now and then.
tim pool
This is earlier than we thought.
I thought it was going to come out in June.
ian crossland
What's Planned Parenthood v. Casey?
seamus coughlin
This is incredible.
ian crossland
You guys know what that is off the top of your head?
tim pool
Planned Parenthood v. Casey?
seamus coughlin
What are you asking me?
ian crossland
1992 court case.
Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
seamus coughlin
I'm not sure.
tim pool
Simply put, using the context clues, it was an additional case in a similar vein that reaffirmed the rights of abortion federally.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
I mean, this is extremely good news.
I was not expecting to be this happy at the end of my day today.
unidentified
Well, that's it.
I'm moving to Canada.
seamus coughlin
Here's a quote from Alito.
tim pool
so much of the lead-out saved row was a grisly wrong from the start its reasoning was
exceptionally weak and the decision has had damaging consequences and far from
bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue rowan case even
flame debate and deep into vision
i thought i say this this is that there is no
that there is no middle ground in the issue of abortion There's none.
There has been attempts at compromise.
That's what it used to be, safe, legal, and rare.
That's where my family was.
I remember my family, my dad would say, it's always wrong, but sometimes there's issues where we don't know if we have the right and the government and stuff like that.
So it was always a more libertarian approach.
What we're seeing now from the left is the argument that it's constitutionally enshrined to terminate the life of a baby, which goes well beyond any position I've ever held.
But I've always been in the more libertarian position, which is a very difficult position because there's serious moral challenges to it that I don't have the answers to.
unidentified
So I don't have a strong moral position other than... It is a crazy thing that it really, like, splits right down the middle.
Like, I feel like if you just took a random subset of 5,000 Americans, it would be right, like, 50-50.
tim pool
But there's no, it's because on the merits of the argument, there is no middle.
There's no rational compromise.
seamus coughlin
It's not possible, yeah.
There's no compromise.
And it's also fascinating because when you consider the fact that the Supreme Court case on gay marriage was decided 10 years ago, and basically the entire population is in favor, or a very large majority of the population is now, and you can lose your job basically for saying you aren't, then you consider the fact that Roe v. Wade was decided, what, 50 years ago?
Yeah, and so many people have maintained their opposition to it.
So, the left never saw the cultural shift that they wanted to with it.
Thank God for that.
This is a really incredible day.
I mean, there are millions and millions of children who are not going to be slaughtered because of this.
And so often, the right loses, fails to take ground, and just allows the left to advance more slowly.
Today, we have experienced one of the most incredible experiences that we could as a movement, because if we stand for anything, it has to be innocent life.
lydia smith
I remember them talking about when Roe was passed, there was a growing approval of abortion among the states.
And when this happened, they were like, approval changed, like people stopped approving of it.
And I honestly hope that this is the first in a long series of steps that we take to send these issues back to the states.
I am a very hard line on abortion, but this has always been a state's issue.
It should have always belonged to the states, because this is not something that was given to the federal government in the Constitution, and the Tenth Amendment is extremely explicit about this.
Anything that's not given to the federal government should be left to the states, because the states are much more in tune with what a smaller subset of the population that live in that area think and believe.
tim pool
So hold on, hold on there a minute.
So I'm trying to tweet this out.
But, this is an initial draft of the majority opinion.
It seems extremely likely this is what's going to happen.
But it was leaked.
So it is still early.
And the fear is, because it was leaked, the left will now launch some kind of... Oh, that's why they leaked it.
unidentified
Yeah, it says it will not be final until it's published, like, in the next two months.
tim pool
So, it seems extremely likely it will happen, but what if the left goes nuts?
What if they're going to?
Sure.
My point is, what if by then they change their vote?
unidentified
Well, don't they have a majority?
Because I think you went down and said that it was all five to four.
tim pool
And what happens if Antifa goes and burns down a bunch of cities and then all of a sudden they're like, oh no, we changed our votes.
That was a draft.
We don't agree.
lydia smith
Do you think that would change their minds or would that set them harder?
unidentified
I think I actually I don't know if you guys do you guys hear that?
I think it's the lady from the women's march.
Roe v. Wade.
ian crossland
Growing up Roe v. Wade was like the gold standard from my liberal mother family.
It was always like, you know, we got Roe v. Wade.
That's part of and that was only six years before I was born.
But I guess that was like such an intrinsic part of women's rights.
This is according to my parents generation.
tim pool
I'm gonna say the two magic words.
You guys ready for the two magic words?
Does anybody know what those magic words are gonna be?
I don't know if you would, Danny.
Seamus?
seamus coughlin
It's happening.
unidentified
We got a Ron Paul callback.
tim pool
The two words that Tim Poole likes to bring up?
Touch of the sea.
Second word, W.
ian crossland
Can't win.
seamus coughlin
Chicago White Sox.
tim pool
Civil War.
Stephen Marsh.
I've got a tweet here.
unidentified
Can I grab the musket?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
I have a Civil War musket.
lydia smith
It's never been used.
unidentified
Keep the powder dry.
ian crossland
I actually do have a Civil War Union... I'm a dumb Canadian.
lydia smith
I don't know these rules.
tim pool
I actually do have a Civil War Union. I'm a dumb Canadian.
I don't know these rules.
You need to hear this. Stephen Marsh, we had on the show, wrote a book called The Next Civil War.
I think that's what it's called, right?
lydia smith
I believe so, yeah.
tim pool
He wrote a follow-up article saying that he believed abortion had the potential to be a similar moral catalyst.
Now, I've been saying that as well.
I want to read this for you.
This is from Dan Diamond, who is a Washington Post reporter, who said, quote, he's quoting, I think, from an article.
He says, no draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending.
This is full-on sabotage of our federal government by a political faction.
We cannot survive.
After hearing this news, if in two months they say, due to extenuating circumstances and extreme political pressure, we've changed our position, what do you think is going to happen in this country?
ian crossland
Well, who leaked it?
That's what I want to know.
So is this opinion that Alito issues, is the only issue to the other justices?
unidentified
It sounds like they all voted for it.
I'm totally having to move back to Canada.
ian crossland
So one of these, they probably did it in a closed room, I don't know the process, but one of these justices may or may not have leaked this to one of their aides, and then that aide leaked it to the press, or the justice just leaked it to the press.
Either way, this to me is evidence that we need to get rid of all of them and put new justices in.
Nine new Supreme Court justices?
If one of them is corrupt, that entire system is... If one of those justices told the court... Everything's corrupt.
Yeah, I mean, we can't keep justice opinion secret anymore.
unidentified
What about if they get the next nine through a reality TV show?
tim pool
Yo, this is crazy.
seamus coughlin
I'd watch it.
unidentified
Everybody would watch it!
seamus coughlin
I wouldn't be happy with that.
tim pool
It's like The Apprentice.
It's Trump.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
And you've got 35 candidates.
And he's like, you're too far left, get out.
unidentified
You got a rose.
Quite frankly, I don't like the decisions you've made in the past to be honest.
ian crossland
The president should not be putting people in the court like that.
That is insane.
That's how it's been for 200 years.
That's how it's worked, I know.
But it's just insane.
No, no, no.
tim pool
There's a confirmation process.
ian crossland
Yeah, but it's like a crown court.
And it's like the Senate gets to do it.
It's not even that people don't even have a say.
tim pool
It's crazy.
I want to say a few words.
So every winter, things calm down because people are indoors and they can't go out and do crazy things.
And every winter for the past 11 years or 10 years as I've been covering conflict, winter comes around and everyone says, I guess it's all over.
The riots and the protesting and everything is done.
And I'm like, dude, it's snowing outside.
Okay?
Give it a few months, and in the summer, you're gonna see it get crazy again.
And then I was thinking about this just recently, because Stephen Marsh wrote that article, that abortion could be... He says abortion is a similar moral issue to what slavery was for the Civil War.
And I've talked about that.
And then I was like, I wonder if a lot of people are still thinking that there's not going to be some escalation.
And then I'm just like, I genuinely believe something will occur that will be an unprecedented escalation.
This is what they're saying.
Never has a draft leak of a Supreme Court decision been leaked in modern history.
It is unprecedented.
This is one of the most dramatic escalations.
That there are Supreme Court justices, sure, as Ian mentions, I don't know if we get rid of all of them, who have staff or someone leaked this to the press, just undercutting our entire system of governance.
I'm really worried about what's going to happen over the next two months, but hey man, don't be surprised if you see rioting and smashing of windows and just destruction.
ian crossland
Oh, that'll be a bare minimum.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, term limits.
Lumber futures are way up.
That's the status quo now.
tim pool
But look, look, look.
I don't believe the left holds this to the same moral standard as the right does.
To the right, it's a very strong moral issue.
To the left, it's a tribal issue that they talk about sometimes.
But here's what I was thinking.
If the ruling came out, I didn't think that there would be mass rioting over this.
The reason was the ruling is done.
What they would do is they would start petitioning and being like, we've got to win and we've got to get the courts.
We've got to win the midterms.
Putting the decision out two months early is perfect for the people who would riot.
Now I genuinely believe we may see riots because they want to influence what the vote actually means.
unidentified
Now excuse my ignorance, but does the elections not factor into this because the Supreme Court They do not.
tim pool
Yeah, it wouldn't, right?
unidentified
Because the Supreme Court's set.
Unless you need someone to die or step down in order to change that, right?
Yes.
tim pool
So this is the Supreme Court that currently exists.
They're not elected.
They're appointed and confirmed.
The president says, I want this person to be a Supreme Court justice.
Then the Senate then says, yay or nay.
So typically, if the Senate is controlled by party A, but the president is of party B, you're not going to get it.
So you usually need a presidency and a Senate of the same party or at least same politics to make something like this happen.
This is... This is gonna get crazy.
ian crossland
Yeah, they should have term limits.
tim pool
Yesterday was May Day.
ian crossland
They should be voted in and then confirmed.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, May 1st, Montgomery.
ian crossland
It should be a vote.
The people should vote on Supreme Court justices at this stage, and there should be four-year term limits.
lydia smith
I disagree, because once you get that vote in there, you get the influence, you get the concern about possibly being re-elected or whatever, and if people vote and make that decision, they're like, oh, we regret it, we're gonna recall them.
I feel like there's so much more of a solid factor when you have the president put them into place.
And then they don't have to worry about a re-election.
And because it is a lifetime appointment, they don't shift so much with the tide as regular politics.
ian crossland
No re-election.
You get four years and you're out.
I don't want justices concerned about running for office ever.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's good that we have at least one branch, in my opinion, that is for life.
unidentified
Kind of unchanged.
In Canada, the Senate's for life.
tim pool
Yes, Lydia just explained it.
ian crossland
Yeah, but look how Canada's doing with... Yeah, not great.
Look, putting people in charge of the country for life is like a dictatorship.
It's crazy.
tim pool
But we have three branches, Ian.
lydia smith
Only one branch.
tim pool
And they can impeach them.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So Congress can impeach a justice, the president appoints, Senate confirms, and we've got the elected president, we've got the elected members of Congress, they all have varying degrees to their terms.
Congress is two years, Senate is six, the presidency is four.
That's a good thing.
unidentified
Has that ever happened?
A Supreme Court justice getting impeached?
Was Thomas the closest?
Well, did they try?
tim pool
No, no, they didn't try to impeach him.
unidentified
They didn't try to impeach him.
No, no, no.
seamus coughlin
They tried to prevent him from being... Or they tried to prevent him from being confirmed.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
Accusing him of untoward behavior.
But the point is, some people are appointed for life, and I think it's a good thing, because as Lydia pointed out, they don't change the tides.
They stick to their positions.
There needs to be an anchor.
Congress is very quick.
Every two years, you get a who-knows-what.
Although some people never leave.
And then the Senate is six years, which is a bit longer, and the presidency is four.
These different amounts of time allow there to be anchor positions so the country doesn't just implode instantly.
ian crossland
Unfortunately, it's not working so well because the country looks like a very slow implosion.
Also, it took the Federal Reserve to come in and take over the country and now abuse our system and put these people in power for life and then pay them off in the background.
Yeah, there's been three impeachments of justices.
The second one in 1804.
Yeah, they're like old, like, for drunkenness and insanity.
unidentified
You can't just be drunk and be this nice.
seamus coughlin
You can't be a crazy drunk guy.
unidentified
I think there should be a rule that there needs to be one Supreme Court justice who is a drunk.
seamus coughlin
Aren't they supposed to represent the nation?
unidentified
All the time.
He's the tiebreaker and he's drunk all the time.
Just lit up on moonshine.
seamus coughlin
And crazy.
And crazy.
unidentified
You give him that triple X moonshine.
tim pool
Seamus, what do you think is going to happen?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
I can't make a prediction here.
I very much hope that this is official, that it is overturned.
I know it appears as if this was leaked early.
I'm not in the business of making predictions in this day and age, but let's keep praying.
tim pool
Let's keep praying.
Let me tell you, you know what the problem is with you, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
You conservative type.
seamus coughlin
What's the problem with us?
tim pool
You are satisfied by restriction on abortion going to the states?
seamus coughlin
I'm not satisfied by it.
I'm not at all.
No, I think we need to go further.
Yeah, I would make it illegal nationwide if possible.
ian crossland
What if they take a boat out to international waters and do it?
seamus coughlin
Then you prosecute them the same way you would to someone who took a boat out to international waters to kill their already born child.
tim pool
Let me reframe it.
I was trying to be sly.
I'm bad at that.
seamus coughlin
That's the conservative problem.
tim pool
Conservatives will very much be satisfied by saying, it's a state's rights issue.
Whereas the left outright is like, we want unfettered access nationwide no matter what.
The left takes the extreme position.
The right settles the compromise.
seamus coughlin
Generally speaking, yeah.
That's usually how the right operates.
It's very sad.
I think it is starting to change.
More conservatives are waking up to the fact that trying to meet in the middle is not working for them.
tim pool
Yeah, it's going to get crazy.
unidentified
What's come about with the whole Texas, the rule that they have with the six weeks and the suing?
And didn't another state?
tim pool
It's done.
unidentified
But what has actually happened?
lydia smith
Other states passed similar restrictions.
unidentified
Didn't Louisiana or something?
tim pool
Mississippi, I think.
Let me, I'll tell you what's going to happen.
Right now, I assure you, there are tons of red states that are immediately drafting outright bans, knowing that in two months, they've won.
ian crossland
I understand, though.
If doctors do it, then they're going to go to prison?
A bunch of women do it?
unidentified
Are they all going to go to prison?
tim pool
I want to ask you guys some questions.
I've asked this question, I think only in the Members Only before, but I have a question.
If You saw someone about to kill another person.
You are legally allowed to protect the life of others.
So if an evil man was pinning down another man, choking him, you could use lethal force against the aggressor to save the life of the person being harmed.
In most circumstances, obviously, if it's like there's a cop who's, you know, attacking somebody because they're fighting and you intervene, you might get in trouble.
But if the cop was actually trying to kill the, like, just strangle the guy out, maybe.
So here's the point.
If Roe v. Wade is overturned, and in red states they pass laws outright saying an unborn child is a life, and a doctor is about to perform an abortion, What would happen if someone intervened to protect the life of that child as per the law of their state?
This is where I think we get into Civil War territory.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because now it's getting scary.
unidentified
You're gonna get like the bombing of abortion clinics coming back.
tim pool
That's different.
unidentified
Well, but I'm saying people will be doing it under that guise where they're saying vigilante justice.
tim pool
If there's no legal distinction between saving the life of a child and an unborn child because they are legally the same thing, And you have a doctor who's like, I am going to now perform the incision on the spine.
And someone says, I will stop you by any means necessary.
You might end up with stories where the courts say it was self-defense to stop the killing of that child.
So I think that's where we can get into Civil War territory.
ian crossland
I'm concerned about miscarriages, man.
Like, if a six-month pregnant woman falls down and hits her stomach and the baby dies, then what, are they going to charge her with manslaughter because she didn't protect and defend the baby's life?
She allowed it into a dangerous situation?
unidentified
Well, I guess in this sense it would be, what, the actual procedure of... Right.
ian crossland
Well, then you're going to see a bunch of women falling over and landing on their stomachs.
tim pool
There are people.
Yeah, maybe.
unidentified
I mean, just like they did.
Well, when abortion was illegal and they had, what, all the back alley abortions, I'm sure some women will find a way.
tim pool
I don't know if that's true.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
So there were back alley abortions.
All the supposed numbers of women who died from back alley abortions were literally completely fabricated.
Bernard Nathanson, who founded NARAL, admitted later on in his life, after he actually converted and became pro-life, because he saw the errors of his ways, that he was literally just making all of it up.
Um, but yeah, that's the answer to that question.
tim pool
Ian, right now, there are people who will be driving their car.
Now, I'll tell you a story from my neighborhood.
There was an old man driving his car, and he ran over a 14-year-old girl, and when he went, ba-boom, ba-boom, he stopped, put the car in reverse, and backed up, not knowing what he hit, and crushed her head like a melon.
He did not get charged.
ian crossland
Uh, why?
tim pool
Because in order to charge someone, you need several criteria.
And an accident like this with an old guy, they said he wasn't negligent, he was just an old guy driving, and he hit somebody, panicked, and killed her.
ian crossland
He didn't see the person before he hit him?
tim pool
He didn't see her.
He was driving normally.
He was driving the speed limit.
He was doing everything right, but he was just a bad driver.
And my understanding is, I don't think he got... I'm pretty sure he didn't get charged.
They just took his license away from him.
There are a lot of people who do things... Like, you could be driving down the... You could be driving, and someone... It could be pitch black on a road, and someone jumps in front of your car, and you hit them, and you don't get charged.
And they'll be like, you weren't driving.
You should have seen him.
unidentified
Didn't a politician, didn't that happen to a politician where he said he hit a deer?
tim pool
Well, I think he's getting charged.
unidentified
Well, he lied.
He was like, I think I hit a deer and hit a person.
And they're like, we found glasses in there.
tim pool
My point is, I really doubt.
seamus coughlin
That's brutal.
tim pool
I think in the circumstance where you're driving your car and you hit somebody, and it was a real accident where the person jumped out in front of you and you were doing everything right, you might still get charged.
If it's a woman who has a miscarriage and it goes to the hospital, I think it may happen, but it'll be extremely rare that the cops are going to be like, let's lock her up.
ian crossland
That's terrifying.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, you'd have to find me an example of that actually happening.
I know a couple years ago there was a story where a woman put a fully developed unborn child in a dumpster, and so I think they were investigating to see whether or not the child was born and then she put it in the dumpster, or if it was a miscarriage.
But I don't know of any examples of any of the states where abortion is currently restricted or illegal where women are pursued for having miscarriages.
In fact, in the ones that we've seen, the penalty only falls upon the doctor.
ian crossland
Yeah, you can't really tell if it was an intentional destruction of the fetus through miscarriage or if the woman actually miscarried.
That's why it's scary to me about charging people for that in a place where abortion is illegal.
seamus coughlin
I mean, in abortion procedures after a certain point, they actually go in there and they rip the child out piece by piece.
They snip the spinal cord.
tim pool
They take a tool to cut the base of the neck and then start dismembering it.
We've talked about this in these exposés.
I think what's going to happen now is there were a wave of red states that were passing these 16-week ban, 11-week ban, and that was the catalyst for getting to the Supreme Court.
And then the Supreme Court said, we're going to go beyond your argument for your 16-week ban.
You can do whatever you want.
Now I think red states will just be like, OK, many of these same states I'm willing to bet right now are drafting up absolute bans.
Oklahoma already did one.
unidentified
I wonder if they just have them ready to go.
They do, yeah.
tim pool
Like, you know, break... Well, there's two things.
There's trigger laws that say as soon as Roe v. Wade is overturned, they instantly go into effect.
But what I'm saying is right now, states seeing that Roe v. Wade has not been overturned yet, but it will be, they're going to pass a law right now and be like, you can't sue us because we're going to win in two months anyway, so good luck.
lydia smith
Yeah.
I don't know, maybe you guys can explain to me why in some states, in some instances, it is a double homicide if a pregnant mother is killed, like in the case of Lacey Peterson, and in other cases, it's not.
Does it just depend on what the mother wants?
tim pool
I would argue that Roe v. Wade should have made that absolute nationwide.
If you're going to argue that abortion can be done in any state in the country, with only certain limitations, then you should not be able to charge someone for killing a fetus.
Because that would mean the Supreme Court said you could kill children.
lydia smith
Right.
That is consistent.
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So getting rid of this now, now it makes sense that some states might say it's a crime and some states might say no.
lydia smith
Right.
It's possible that Antifa loses their mind over this, but I do hope that this will be a red pill for these Supreme Court justices and then they can look at this and say, okay, this is definitely something that should not be in the control of the Supreme Court.
At the very least, left to the individual states, and possibly banned outright.
Because every single state has prohibitions against murder, obviously, and I think that this would be the closest comparison we could make at this point in time, although you could also say slavery.
But if every single state has prohibitions against murder, then you should also be able to say that every single state should have similar prohibitions against abortion.
We haven't gotten that far yet.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
So one argument that people will make when they say abortion should be left up to the states, even though they believe it's murder, is that generally whether murder or how to prosecute murder is left up to individual states.
But that doesn't really hold water because it's not as if states are able to say murder is altogether legal here and we're not going to go after anyone for committing it.
I think the federal government would step in at that point.
So I do believe there's very good reason to ban abortion at the federal level.
tim pool
I think every leftist nightmare is now about to occur.
If you live in a city like New York or Chicago or Los Angeles, nothing will change.
Literally nothing.
Because Roe v. Wade just returns the right to the states, and those states already lead a life.
unidentified
Well, I will, there will be one thing changing in New York, which is I know so many like women who honestly thought it was like Handmaid's Tale.
Like we're just like, we're living in the Handmaid's Tale.
And they were saying it pretty hyperbolically before.
And now that's going to be like, for them, it'd be like a little in their minds, a little less.
They're going to be like, no, it literally is Handmaid's Tale.
seamus coughlin
Everything is Handmaid's Tale all the time.
unidentified
It is!
I know people, I've had conversations.
I know.
I had a conversation with a girl at a comedy club and she was crying.
This was before COVID.
Even happened.
And she's in tears being like, no, it's literally like The Handmaid's Tale right now.
And me and Ryan Long were laughing in her face.
To the point where she's like, why are you laughing?
And we're like, we got to go outside.
I'm sorry.
We have to excuse ourselves.
seamus coughlin
And now... So the conservative states behind the glass, they have these bills.
And then in left-wing states, they have The Handmaid's Tale behind the glass.
It's like, break it!
unidentified
That's going to be a hot costume this year in blue states.
tim pool
In blue states, they have the thing that says, break the glass in case of, you know, right-wing extremism, and it's already broken.
There's no glass left.
The book's gone.
They took it out 20 years ago.
seamus coughlin
That's perfect.
That's perfect.
tim pool
There's no book left.
The woman runs.
She goes, where's the book?
It's not here!
We've got to refill it!
We've got to put more books in!
seamus coughlin
So the only books they ever reference are Harry Potter and Handmaid's Tale.
It's like, okay, those are like television shows slash movies, so I know you didn't read them.
unidentified
Yeah, you didn't even read them.
tim pool
Dude, wait, wait.
I got an idea.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
tim pool
The Handmaid's Potter.
We should write it.
unidentified
The Hairy Handmaid?
tim pool
Hairy Handmaid and the Sorcerer's Secret.
And it's a book about... Hairy Handmaid and the Stone's Tale.
Are the wizards the bad guys in this one?
They're like a religious sect and they make all the women wear the black robes and they force them to be witches.
seamus coughlin
Also, it's funny because when you look at the synopsis of A Handmaid's Tale, it's like, the men are able to have sex with all the women they want, and they're what?
It's like, isn't this supposed to be a Christian theocracy, where it's all about monogamy and one man, one woman?
Like, this actually sounds more like the world as it is now, where really rich, wealthy dudes just sleep around with whoever they want, and then if she gets pregnant, they just kill the baby, and his wife has, like, the appearance kept up, but he's doing whatever he wants.
It's much more in line with our culture now.
ian crossland
Is that the plot of that show?
seamus coughlin
I've never seen it.
I've never seen it either, right?
But from what I understand, from what's been explained to me, it's basically that there are women who are forced to carry children for men who basically own them.
tim pool
Isn't it like the population collapses?
seamus coughlin
Something like that.
ian crossland
Yeah, so it's modern day.
seamus coughlin
Let's pull up Handmaid's Tale.
tim pool
It's post-apocalyptic, and then so the Christians, like Christian theocracy takes over, and they're like, we need babies, so the women have to have babies, and so they, the women are just forced to be, you know, broodmares for the state.
That was a George Carlin quote, by the way.
seamus coughlin
The totalitarian, the totalitarian theocratic government of Gideons establishes a rule in the former United States, or I'm sorry, of Gilead establishes rule in the United States in the aftermath of a civil war.
I mean, Tim, you're always talking about a civil war.
Maybe you think it's a handmaid's tale.
tim pool
I kind of think it's a handmaid's tale.
unidentified
Oh my gosh, no.
seamus coughlin
It's definitely a handmaid's tale.
Look, we've got to admit it, it is a handmaid's tale.
Tomorrow on Fox News, you're going to see the different opinion commentators and journalists sitting together like, it's time to tell them, it was the handmaid's tale!
ian crossland
There's something to it that isn't the Catholic Church's.
The point of it was like, don't use birth control because we want as many Catholics born as possible and don't have sex with people out of wedlock.
Make sure you stay in your Catholic union.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's, it's make sure that you, so that's part of the natural law though.
I mean, that isn't specifically Catholic, basically until like 50 years ago, it was every religion that said wait until you're married and don't use birth control.
tim pool
You know, I don't know if you know this, but monogamy started back thousands of years ago because... John Q. Monogamy didn't want his wife messing around with other guys, so he said, we will!
It was originally humans would just, you know, have orgies, but vampirism began to spread.
So to contain the spread of the vampiric disease, everybody had to pair up.
Otherwise, you know, you'd be a vampire.
ian crossland
I was just thinking about being a vampire earlier today.
I was looking in the mirror at my white, white skin.
I haven't been outside in like three days.
seamus coughlin
All that privilege.
tim pool
James, you should do a cartoon where the news anchors are reporting, and then they're like, breaking news!
Roe v. Wade!
And then the women take off their clothes to have Handmaid's Tale outfits underneath like, WE TOLD YOU THIS WAS COMING!
seamus coughlin
So I did a cartoon a while ago about the Supreme Court not forcing nuns to pay for Plan B pills, and they're basically surrounded by these feminists like, My life is a Handmaid's Tale, so I've done it.
You guys should check it out.
You guys should go watch that video right now.
unidentified
I mean, Margaret Atwood just bought a new boat.
I'll tell you that much.
She just read this, she goes, that just bought me a new boat.
seamus coughlin
And the Handmaid's Tale has been renewed for like 30 seasons.
tim pool
She's on the phone right now, it's like, of course I saw the news.
unidentified
Alright.
Imagine she's like so evil, she's like, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened for me.
seamus coughlin
She's like, saw the news, my publisher leaked it.
tim pool
She's like filling out a donation form to a bunch of Republicans.
unidentified
That would be amazing.
tim pool
She's like signing the check and then the phone rings and they're like, don't send the check in.
She's like, why?
It's done.
She goes, ah, she tears it up.
unidentified
Good, good, good.
Everything's according to plan.
Yes.
ian crossland
So she's like the female, uh, 1984 George Orwell.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, that's true.
She's like, she's like the feminist, spoiled, modern, liberal woman, George Orwell.
unidentified
Yeah, but she got in trouble actually, uh, for some sort of gender, um, mistake she made.
As one does.
Some sort of thing.
She, she kind of, no, like she's some sort of, you know, she said the wrong thing and then everybody who loved her instantly kind of... She said it instead of they.
Like something very benign that a 70 year old woman might make that mistake.
And then she had people really turning against her.
tim pool
She's like, my summer house just got one story bigger.
seamus coughlin
Isn't it hilarious though that like, that's something you can kind of say about- you either can say about everyone and anyone or will be able to say about anyone.
They got in trouble for something they said about gender, I don't know.
tim pool
Dude.
seamus coughlin
Oh man, so... My life is the Handmaid's Tale, I'll tell you that much.
tim pool
Riots are no riots.
You know, I'm leaning towards- Riots?
unidentified
Just because we haven't had riots.
By the way- Like if you're a rioter, you're kind of getting itchy right now.
You know, you've been like, how long has it been since the last riot?
tim pool
You broke that glass, bro.
unidentified
Every target right now is calling up their wood guy being like, hey, we need you to come and board.
No, no, no.
tim pool
That's true, though.
I'm willing to bet big chain stores right now Right now, I'm willing to bet executives high up at big box stores are sending out the alert.
They're saying get notifications to every store.
We want them ready to board up at a moment's notice.
unidentified
I mean, I live right beside Union Square in New York.
I guarantee you tomorrow, or at least this weekend, there will be some huge thing and, you know, there will be some damage.
seamus coughlin
Corporate is like, alright, prepare the wood to board up the windows, and then PR, prepare the letter of solidarity to tell the rioters we're standing with them as they burn our building down.
unidentified
I mean, in New York, yeah, in New York they don't need like a logical reason to riot.
Of course.
tim pool
But my experience with New York is that they don't damage too much.
unidentified
I don't know about that.
Soho was, like, destroyed.
tim pool
Really?
Yeah.
ian crossland
You mean too much relative to the amount of things there are to damage?
unidentified
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
Like, in Minneapolis, they were burning down buildings and police stations.
unidentified
And in New York... There were no burnings, but there was some steel.
There was a lot of looting.
I mean, there was a... There was a few police officers.
There was... Cop cars got Molotov cocktails.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
unidentified
Yeah, there was some...
ian crossland
What concerns me is that if there's a riot and the government really wants to go full regime totalitarian, they can send out the feds, martial law, crack it down, put these people in prison for life, totally turn on them.
And then now we've got our militocracy.
seamus coughlin
Do you think the Biden administration would do that?
ian crossland
He's such a psycho, like he's so uncalculable and vapid that yeah, I think he's the kind of guy that could go complete insanity.
He just created a What is this this this put this woman in charge of his like disinformation regime?
seamus coughlin
No, that's not true. The disinformation regime told me that was not true.
ian crossland
Oh, that was disinformation too? I don't know what to believe anymore.
unidentified
It's the information government.
ian crossland
I don't trust any one guy to be in control in general, but Biden's totally lost it.
unidentified
Amen, because this is not the handmaid's tale.
ian crossland
I don't want to put that out there too much that it could happen, but it could happen if
It could happen.
We're not, we're like two steps away from a totalitarian regime, military crackdown.
tim pool
You know what actually really funny?
If like, instead of putting on hoodies and black bandanas, they all dress up like handmaids and they're like rampaging through New York with those red gowns.
unidentified
I'm telling you, you're joking about this.
tim pool
We'll be seeing this like ASAP.
Like, all these Antifa people decide to wear the Handmaid's Tale outfit to make a point,
but then night falls and they go nuts, and they're just running around in these dresses
and bonnets smashing windows.
seamus coughlin
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
But you know what's funny too, is like, the riots are gonna be in liberal cities.
unidentified
Yeah.
Man, before the last presidential election, my area was boarded up.
tim pool
They're like, we hate Trump!
So they're smashing up Democrat windows.
seamus coughlin
Sticking a stick in the spokes of their own bike, you know?
unidentified
Right, right, right.
lydia smith
How could Trump do this?
seamus coughlin
Destroy your own city?
Great, good job.
tim pool
But that's actually a better meme for the people who live in the city who keep voting for these people.
They vote for sympathizers for the rioters and then complain when their windows get smashed up.
Maybe you shouldn't vote for it.
seamus coughlin
In case you weren't alarmed enough, a vote for Democrats is a vote for people to riot in your city whenever politics doesn't go the way they want.
ian crossland
Riots are dangerous and I do advocate for bringing out the military.
tim pool
I gotta read this.
The key paragraph that's being shared right now.
seamus coughlin
Of a handmaid's tale?
tim pool
Deliberations on controversial cases in the past have been fluid.
Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate, and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled.
The court's holding will not be final until it's published, likely in the next two months.
They are saying in this article, riot now!
seamus coughlin
What they're saying is, several of the justices have expressed that they're severely depressed and don't know how they can go on in this world.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
Hillary Clinton said.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, they recorded a report from close friend Hillary Clinton.
tim pool
Hey, oh man.
unidentified
Yeah, it's not going to be good to be any family members of any of these Supreme Court justices for the next two months.
It's not going to be good to be in any... Do they get Secret Service details if you're a Supreme Court justice?
I'm sure they do.
ian crossland
I thought that Trump should have sent out the military to put down the riots.
lydia smith
Yeah, so that's interesting that you mentioned that because I was going to say, do you really think that the Biden administration would crack down on Antifa?
Because when you talk about the disinformation act they're pushing through, That is 100% pointed toward the right.
There's nothing going against the left from the Biden administration, and there never will be, I don't think.
ian crossland
Well, they're useful idiots, and they'll be thrown under the bus when it's time.
That's my concern.
unidentified
Oh, they legit leaked the actual entire PDF.
tim pool
Oh yeah, the whole thing, dude.
It's leaked.
ian crossland
Wow.
lydia smith
Oh my.
ian crossland
It's wild.
unidentified
Who did this?
90 pages?
lydia smith
That's not cool.
tim pool
Yeah, I gotta read this.
seamus coughlin
Who put the wrong person in the group chat?
tim pool
98 pages.
lydia smith
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
Do you know who got leaked to?
lydia smith
Politico.
Yeah.
They leaked it right to Politico, which is troubling to me because this is the branch of government that should not be political.
It shouldn't be because like I was saying earlier, they're not elected.
They don't need to worry about an upcoming midterm or anything like that.
They just need to focus on reading the Constitution and trying to follow it exactly as written.
And this is the reason that they're kind of protected from the vicissitudes of elections, is so they don't have to be influenced by politics.
And this, to me, looks like they're trying to use Antifa against them, which is deeply troubling.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, well, that's because Antifa is the militant arm of the Democratic Party.
lydia smith
Yeah, 100%.
seamus coughlin
I mean, there are elected officials and celebrity activists battle those people out of gel whenever they riot and try to burn down a city to intimidate the people in that city to adopt their policy.
So it's pretty straightforward at this point.
unidentified
You think they're having fun at the Met Gala right now?
seamus coughlin
Oh, dude, they're loving it.
tim pool
It's all screams.
They're on the ground rolling.
unidentified
I knew I should have wore my white bonnet and red dress tonight.
seamus coughlin
I was gonna make a statement.
unidentified
I can't believe I wore my white dress.
tim pool
Do you see that person wearing the weird, like, metallic outfit?
unidentified
No.
The one?
seamus coughlin
You know what?
I know.
I bet you every single person to take the microphone on stage tonight is gonna say something that they think is really brave.
ian crossland
What is the point of that Met Gala?
unidentified
It's to raise money for the museum.
seamus coughlin
I'm so sad.
unidentified
It's like a fundraiser, but then they got rich elites and then they got all like the Hollywood and all that stuff into it and made a whole production out of it.
lydia smith
So this says right now barricades are up around the Supreme Court building just minutes after reports were made.
unidentified
I'm telling you, my area is going to be on fire when I get home tomorrow.
tim pool
Do you need a couch, Danny?
unidentified
I'm going to.
I'm going to.
ian crossland
That's bold that you live right outside Union Square.
unidentified
I literally live a few blocks from Union Square.
tim pool
Danny.
ian crossland
Nice area.
tim pool
We have a spare bedroom.
unidentified
We have a bean bag.
Honestly, just put me in the chicken coop.
I'll live in Chicken City.
Just do a $5 super chat to release my breakfast.
I know this is still better than living in New York.
$20 gets you a joke.
Hey, hey, hey.
Chicken City is legit nicer than New York City.
Right now it is, no question.
seamus coughlin
Those chickens have a sense of purpose.
unidentified
I'm really wondering, did I lock my door?
seamus coughlin
It wouldn't matter, bro.
tim pool
If Antifa tried to riot in Chicken City, Roberto and Roberto Jr.
seamus coughlin
would be going at it.
tim pool
Like, the cops in New York back off and stand down, but not Roberto and Roberto Jr.
They'd be coming at you, they'd be dropkicking you.
seamus coughlin
And Antifa would, like, legitimately be scared of a chicken running to- I promise you.
I promise you.
We need more team trains hate crime chickens to attack me while I'm fighting
unidentified
This really is kind of the perfect storm though because there's so much pent-up rage from all
the people who were ready to riot after the election who didn't because they won yeah
People probably just had like, you know cases of Molotov cocktails ready to go riot blue balls
Yeah.
No, it really is though They were ready to go.
There was everything was boarded up and then they go.
Ah, like it's kind of It's like what do we do now?
tim pool
It was gonna be the Super Bowl of rioting it was and they're wearing like hockey masks They're like, let's go and they're like Biden wins and they're like But now, now they're like, finally.
lydia smith
And it's getting warm, purple.
tim pool
And they'll get to ride again in June.
ian crossland
Are you not supposed to smash riots to oblivion if they happen in your country?
seamus coughlin
I'm New York City!
It's difficult.
I've heard different theories on this.
I've heard some people say that part of the reason it's so difficult to govern over something like that is because you really have to like nip it in the bud early.
But when you do that, it can appear as if you're cracking down on people or being peaceful.
But like, as soon as any violence starts, you have to, you have to just immediately remove any violent element.
ian crossland
Because like fire, it spreads.
unidentified
Well, but also the problem is, is that that's kind of what they're saying they're doing with like in Ottawa and stuff.
They were trying to say that, and that was total like bull.
Like, you know, especially the one right now with the, um, the, what is it?
The bikers, right?
Cause they had, they had the convoy before and then now they have the bikers and they just straight up came out and they go, Oh, you know, we got to make sure there's no like hate crimes.
And you're like, this is not on the table.
Like you're just kind of saying this to plant the seed.
tim pool
Brian Tyler Cohen says, when we expand the court, this will be why.
Because you lost?
Yeah, this country's been ripped to shreds.
Yeah, they can't outright rip to shreds.
ian crossland
It's antiquated.
It was written, Rogan says this from time to time, it was created in a time when people rode on horseback and rode with quills on paper, and they had to go to Washington D.C.
to partake in the day.
Now we're on, like, phone calling.
tim pool
I disagree.
That's like saying the circumference of the Earth was calculated at a time when people were carving stone in tablets and parchment.
I mean, certainly we shouldn't believe—no.
Stoicism was created at a time when men wore bath sheets and bathed in public.
ian crossland
Just demanding that they have to be in Washington is a vulnerability and also slows down the process.
seamus coughlin
Don't worry, they don't show up a lot of the time.
tim pool
Ian, bro, bro.
You gotta read political philosophy, political science.
The reason why we require our politicians to travel around the country to D.C.
is that throughout history, the Founding Fathers knew the further away leadership was from a capital, the more corruption would expand.
So you needed some kind of oscillation to keep the culture moving closer and then outside.
If you have a capital, Look at the Roman Empire.
The further you got away from it, the less the laws mattered and everything started falling apart.
ian crossland
But then you have video chat.
So, like, distances warped.
Time and distance are kind of the same thing.
tim pool
There's a reason why we don't video chat people on this show.
Because these lefty guys on Twitter will smack talk and scream, and you'll say, come on the show to have a real conversation.
Then when you go live, they'll bring some other random person in to go, oh, we smacked down!
So I don't play those games.
ian crossland
Well, if you're under oath as a government official, then you're not going to swerve in some idiot.
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
The issue is you need to sit down with people and have to confront them and look them in the eyes.
ian crossland
If you're debating, yeah.
But if you're just making a vote, like they had on the Amber Heard Johnny Depp trial, they had witnesses actually telecommute it in for the first time they'd ever seen it.
tim pool
They don't vote!
ian crossland
No, they just came in and gave testimony.
tim pool
So I think they should have to go in, and that's why- But they don't even have to!
When Marjorie Taylor Greene goes in and says, I want a roll call vote, and then everyone's forced to come in.
That's why I like what she's doing.
ian crossland
But they don't!
That's the problem is, she got them to that time.
tim pool
They do when the Freedom Caucus does their watch.
Remember they told us this?
The Freedom Caucus, because they're all crooked, the Freedom Caucus has to have one person constantly there saying, roll call vote.
So it forces all the members of Congress to do their jobs.
That's a good thing.
And if they didn't have to be there, they'd never go there, and they'd be like, just sign me off on yes on all of them, and I'm gonna go fundraise.
ian crossland
There's another problem is that they're running for re-election.
That's another problem too.
The whole system's busted up beyond repair.
Is that safe to say?
tim pool
Well, Thomas Jefferson had a bold quote, which I don't know if we should say, but it is a historical quote about the Tree of Liberty, which everyone probably understands.
Intriguing.
There's a general idea that every couple hundred years, we need to have a reassessment of where we're at with our laws and how they're working.
The problem with that is, if the left is in Congress and we do a reassessment, they're going to be like, we will now strip the rights of half this country away because we have half plus one.
So it's like, How do you do it?
I think that the constitutional amendment process is fairly good.
It's allowed us to protect ourselves from democratic tyranny, the tyranny of the majority.
There are crazy evil people who will lie, cheat, and steal to gain power.
And it's not hard for them to rally a bunch of dumb people to destroy the Constitution, but it's really hard to do with the system we have.
If all they had to do was rally 51%, 50.01% of people to take away your rights, your rights would be gone.
They would find some way to do it.
So I like the system we have, but I certainly think the amendment process is the means by which we fix it and change it.
ian crossland
Yeah, but it's also the way we can destroy it.
Like the 16th amendment created income tax.
tim pool
That's true.
That's true.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
So you're saying the constitution should have never changed?
ian crossland
Well, no, I don't think that's true.
I like that you can amend the Constitution, but maybe these amendments should only stand for a certain amount of time and then they wash off unless we re-vote to have them put back on.
unidentified
Oh, but other than that, potentially have you lose the guns?
ian crossland
Yeah, there's a problem that you could lose the Bill of Rights.
seamus coughlin
I would imagine you would exempt the Bill of Rights from this.
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
I don't know, those are amendments.
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We're gonna do some fun stuff.
I don't think I'm actually gonna hire a thousand people to dress up like syringes and run around in D.C.
Maybe that's a good idea, actually.
It might be funny.
They'd be like, why are all these people doing this?
I'm like, I don't know, it's funny.
But we're gonna do things like that.
We're gonna do culture jamming as marketing.
So let's rate some superchats.
We got Suomi Perkele.
Perkele.
The Quartering made a coffee brand.
You should support them.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
I don't know.
We were talking about launching our coffee shop exclusively selling Krigler coffee.
ian crossland
I'm open to Jeremy's coffee, though, if it's good.
Send me a bag, bro.
tim pool
Alright, let's see what's this.
What's this?
Louie Cordero says, Tim, I just got great news.
I work for a defense contract company in L.A.
and they just disbanded the mask mandate.
Also, I really think you should check out a band called Havoc and check out their lyrics on the album Conformicide.
Interesting.
Rylo says, Jeremy from the Quartering launched a coffee company called Coffee Brand Coffee.
Check it out if you like his content.
I am not associated with Jeremy.
Ooh, competition, huh?
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's see.
unidentified
Is Jeremy just sending people over here?
lydia smith
Apparently.
unidentified
Definitely.
tim pool
A lot of people are mentioning this.
unidentified
Yeah, I saw several of them.
tim pool
He's got coffee.
lydia smith
Must be great coffee.
seamus coughlin
All right.
ian crossland
Good marketing.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
tim pool
No more coffee.
No more coffee.
Eric Miller says, check out Liberty Doll on YouTube.
She covered a story about how NBC and Pennsylvania AG office broke federal law for a story about gun control.
Interesting.
ian crossland
I would also like to shout out Kregler Coffee, Adam Kregler's coffee brand, which is also stupendously good.
The gamer blend, particularly, I remember.
tim pool
All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, we need not forget that before Twitter-ish, Elon was the SpaceX guy, Tesla guy, the boring co-guy.
The left can radicalize anyone against them.
That's right.
seamus coughlin
Nah, dude, he's an idiot.
He's not bright.
He's not a very bright guy.
ian crossland
Yeah, he accidentally made PayPal.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
No, look, look, like if I was born.
tim pool
You know the story about that, right?
ian crossland
He fell down and he dropped PayPal on the ground.
tim pool
He tripped and his credit card fell into the floppy disk drive and he went, and it worked.
seamus coughlin
It worked.
Yeah.
He just had all the, it only works if you have a bunch of money on it.
Dude, if I was born in the same circumstances as like Elon Musk and his background, I would have like five times as much money as him.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
You would have been like five PayPals and sold them all to each other.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
If my dad gave me a small one of a million dollars.
I'd have $2 billion.
unidentified
Trump has like $3 billion.
tim pool
Alright, Donovan Davis says, Tim, the left are literally the Sith.
They misuse and abuse the tools and people around them for their selfish, psychopathic ends.
The Sith can't hold on to power, but can only attain it due to their arrogance and craving of power for the sake of power.
ian crossland
Does that mean that the right are the Jedi?
tim pool
Well, you know the left took the word Jedi, right?
Justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Sounds like a sick- And now they have Jedi classes.
seamus coughlin
What?
tim pool
Yup.
seamus coughlin
So these kids go there thinking they're gonna get to learn to use the Force, and instead they're having beliefs forced on them.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
Ola says, Tim, what dates were you in Ukraine?
Comments on Azov, iDance, Voboda, Right Sector, Steven, Bandera, etc.
Comment Union House in Odessa as well.
I was in, um, it's all on, it's on Vice.
If you just look up, you know, the EuroMyDance stuff.
I think we were there maybe like around the new year.
I think it was like maybe November of 2013 or something like that.
ian crossland
Bandera's interesting.
Stepan Bandera, I think, is his name.
He was like, I don't know if you considered him a Nazi.
unidentified
He considered himself a Nazi as far as I'm concerned.
ian crossland
He was.
And he was just like the hardcore nationalist violent movement during World War II, was it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, Joseph says, you are correct, Tim.
I live in rural Minnesota and even Republican boomers believe this stuff around here.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
This is what's so bizarre about it, right?
Because these news networks cater to a more left-wing audience when you're looking at CNN and MSNBC, and the boomers are the only people who watch it, but they were the ones who prided themselves on being the non-conformist generation that stood up to authority.
unidentified
They're like, I'm only gonna get my news from the authorities!
Yeah.
I mean, there's boomers on both sides.
seamus coughlin
I mean, there are boomers on both sides, but the boomers on the right are actually like, look at this link I got from conspiracy.blogspot.net that proves that.
unidentified
And then they click it, it's like a phishing scam.
Where'd my money go?
tim pool
It's americanpatriotwarriors.website.net.
seamus coughlin
Like, look, this proves it.
It's like Trump's going to be president in a week.
tim pool
Look at this, son.
.website is real.
seamus coughlin
Is it?
tim pool
Yes.
seamus coughlin
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
.website.
Brian, let's see, what does it say?
Schnur?
Demand results, Tim.
Elon pays attention and will format subliminal results where it's due.
Let's grab the narrative, be relevant, the zombies need a shake.
That's why we are planning a bunch.
You know, I wish we could do everything at once, all this crazy culture jamming stuff, but you can't.
You've got to do one thing, wait a month, do one thing, wait a month, do one thing.
Because if you did like 10 things in one month, it just wouldn't be effective at all.
You'd be like just throwing everything at the wall and it wouldn't work.
So we've got some plans.
Y'all liked the Times Square thing we did.
We've got some plans akin to like hiring a thousand people to dress up like syringes and run around the city.
You know, something like that, but not quite like that.
We've got plans.
seamus coughlin
Look, there's a lot of syringes out in LA already.
unidentified
Oh, that's true.
ian crossland
We dress syringes up as people.
Hey, Elon, I want to advise you just to kind of lay off the going after people thing and keep creating stuff.
unidentified
It's amazing he has time for both, huh?
tim pool
I don't know.
When he came out and started ragging on the media about Epstein, I'm kind of happy.
ian crossland
It's entertaining, but I just, I like the stuff you're building.
tim pool
He's waking people up.
There are probably tons of people who are like, what's that about?
ian crossland
Yeah, I know.
I just don't want another pariah.
lydia smith
Well, since 2018, he's been talking about something that he called American Pravda, which is where he was wanting to hold the media accountable on his own site.
So I think there's just him continuing that idea.
tim pool
Morgan H says, hey Tim, looks like Vice is trying to find a buyer.
You should make an offer.
Ten bucks!
lydia smith
Ten bucks.
Ten bucks.
Too much.
unidentified
Bit high.
lydia smith
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Dude, wow.
If it was Virtue.com, you know.
tim pool
Are they really trying to sell?
Because like, dude, if they sold, I don't know, nine years ago.
ian crossland
Dude, if you bought Vice.
tim pool
I wouldn't do it.
seamus coughlin
I would do it talk about what seriously talk about buying high and selling low like
Are they really talking about selling their company then?
tim pool
Disney wrote down their investment to zero dollars. Yeah, like half a billion
unidentified
I mean, it's probably one of those things where you buy them you go. Yeah, you have four hundred million dollars
with a debt now Enjoy
ian crossland
Oh yeah, for sure.
seamus coughlin
Like they pay you to take it.
tim pool
They did take on a bunch of debt recently, so there's several ways you can get investment.
So I think they took debt, which is like a loan, basically.
So they owe money.
ian crossland
TPG Capital is their biggest owner, 44%.
Really?
Disney and A&E Networks own the other 20-20, thereabouts.
And then a guy, Soros, owns 10%.
Soros Fund Management.
unidentified
Does he really?
He is such a prankster that guy.
It's just the brave search.
ian crossland
And then Shane Smith has 20%.
tim pool
Zack Snow says, just because Tim said, here come the ones, Ian, here's a 20, spin the UFO.
ian crossland
That is what I'm talking about.
tim pool
Did you see, Ian, I bought the air things?
Ian's just trying to blow on the UFO.
ian crossland
I'm going to do it the old way.
unidentified
Ready?
ian crossland
I'm going to spin this thing.
tim pool
You're going to knock it off.
ian crossland
I'm good.
tim pool
So I bought the air thing.
It's downstairs.
ian crossland
Okay, next time we'll bring the air thing.
tim pool
The air thing.
ian crossland
Wobbly... wobbly board cleaner.
lydia smith
Wobbly spins.
ian crossland
Wobbly spinning.
tim pool
Many strange quirks, says Tim.
You should get flags for the blimp, Ministry of Truth, and fly it somewhere cool.
59-year-old Boomer member here that appreciates you all.
Yeah, so we have the Let's Go Brandon blimp.
We could do something with the blimp.
You see our blimp?
No, I haven't seen it yet.
We have this huge blimp.
What is it, like 20 feet long?
ian crossland
Yeah, I think it is.
tim pool
And we put Let's Go Brandon on the sides and flew it around.
unidentified
Here?
tim pool
Well, we flew it around out here.
We just made it because I wanted to, um, retroactively make Wikipedia wrong.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Retroactive.
Cause they, they once wrote that I invented a Zeppelin and then it wasn't true and they wouldn't get rid of it.
And then eventually after a few years they did.
So I decided to actually make the Zeppelin so they'd be forced to put it back in.
And now I did it, but they're still not putting it back in, which is just not fair.
seamus coughlin
But does that count as inventing a Zeppelin?
unidentified
Yes.
No.
tim pool
So it was a live streaming Zeppelin modification.
So they were like, Tim Pool invented a Zeppelin that could do live streaming from the internet.
And so we hired a guy and we built one.
seamus coughlin
It's a weird thing for someone to make up about you.
Like that doesn't even sound like something a hater would say.
tim pool
It was because I had done some of the first work in drone journalism.
I actually went down with the American Drone Coalition government program, like, where can we set up drone research?
And they had no idea what they were doing back in the day when commercial drones started getting released.
Like, I'm talking to these guys on Skype from the government, and I was like, think about what someone could put on a drone.
And they're like, like what?
And I'm like, like something dangerous.
Rainbows.
Like what?
Like a chemical.
And they're like, and?
And then they fly it into New York.
And they're like, oh.
unidentified
They're like, sir, are you planning to fly chemicals into New York to hit rescue?
tim pool
No, I was like, you guys need ways to disable these things within certain perimeters.
Like, they just stop.
Because people, like this cheap technology, But we ended up doing a bunch of crazy hypotheses and theoretical stuff.
And one of the ideas was making a Zeppelin.
But it was literally like me talking to a journalist and being like, we have a drone.
The drone can live broadcast over the internet.
We built that.
We hacked it, me and my friends.
And I was like, what we want to do is a whole bunch of crazy stuff.
We want to be able to send it through mobile next.
We want to get like a Zeppelin that could do something similar.
And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then they wrote, Tim Pool invented a Zeppelin.
I never said that.
I was just spitballing ideas.
That's all it was.
All right, let's read some more.
Colonel Cornelius Cornwall says, Chicken City is awesome, but no posting links.
Do we have permission to run a non-affiliated Discord for posting links?
Sent an email to spin the UFO.
I don't know.
We have a wiki, a Chicken City wiki, on like wikia fandom or something.
Interesting.
Yeah, so people can make articles for like Sarah and Roberto and Margaret.
ian crossland
They were partying this morning.
Did you hear that?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Probably 6 a.m.
I don't know what the party was all about, but right when they woke up, they were just going at it.
tim pool
You know what's funny?
I go out there periodically and scold the chickens for not working hard enough and only partying.
And then it's just funny, because it's like, you chickens better not be partying out here.
You better get back to work.
lydia smith
You crazy kids.
tim pool
And then when the chicken party happens, I'm like, oh, you chickens!
seamus coughlin
Well, that's the thrill of it.
The audience doesn't actually know that you're in on it.
That's right.
tim pool
Oh, I know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So we're planning that commercial for Tucker and it's going to be... Did we say what the trailer was going to be already?
We did, right?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
ian crossland
I do not know.
tim pool
I think we said on the members only.
It's going to be that an old man withersbee is trying to plow out Chicken City to put up a parking lot for his shopping center.
And then he's complaining to the city about all the parties.
And then the city inspector is like, if these parties keep continuing and these complaints, we're gonna have to shut you down.
And then we're like, you mean if people give $5, they can help us raise money by feeding the chickens to save Chicken City?
And then at the end, it's like the old man, he's like, these chickens have won.
Ah, what the heck?
And then he throws his cane and starts dancing with the chickens.
seamus coughlin
And then Media Matters says Tim Pool launched a false advertisement campaign fooling people into donating to his pro-chicken charity when it went right into his own pocket.
tim pool
It's not a charity, it's a for-profit enterprise.
seamus coughlin
You're saying, but you're telling the public that this is their chance to save Chicken City.
It's fraudulent.
tim pool
Well, it's a movie trailer, though.
seamus coughlin
So we'd be doing a commercial for our- Oh, okay, that's how you get away with your lies.
Alright, I see.
tim pool
It's a movie trailer?
seamus coughlin
Just like Jon Stewart.
Clown nose on, clown nose off.
ian crossland
Yeah, you need a disclaimer in the beginning.
tim pool
Yeah, I feel like it's not true.
The following movie doesn't exist.
unidentified
Yeah, you give the Law and Order disclaimer.
All right, all right.
Justice system sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous chicken based
All right, all right Let's uh, let's grab a super chats
tim pool
Abba what does it say?
Say a basic bro. There you go.
Tim, what do you do to unwind?
Danny, do your best impression of Ryan.
unidentified
I'm not an impression guy.
I don't do impressions.
tim pool
You do it.
seamus coughlin
I don't even know if I can do a Ryan.
I don't think I can do a Ryan impression.
It would be smart.
He's just kind of like, he's kind of like raspy, but that's not, it doesn't sound like it.
unidentified
That's what yeah Yeah, exactly raspy, but it's not really an impression like this down when he's talks a little bit I was like this, a little bit.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but it's like, it's hard to get the... It's a very unique sound.
tim pool
So, uh, to unwind.
I don't know if I do unwind.
lydia smith
You never unwind.
tim pool
So, here's how my day goes.
I woke up today at 6.30 a.m.
And then, you know, just morning routine stuff.
You, you know, pluck your nose hairs.
And then I started reading the news.
I read the news as soon as I wake up.
Today I woke up at 6.30 because I wake up with the sun.
ian crossland
What's your news?
Where do you go?
Twitter right away?
tim pool
Yeah, Twitter.
So my Twitter is a lot of the major news outlets and then other, you know, political individuals.
So then around like, I don't know, 7.30 I'm drinking coffee and I'm reading the news.
I record my first segment at 9.
Then I read more news and stuff like that.
Talk with the newsroom.
We're dealing with paperwork and stuff and building stuff, business stuff.
Then I record again at noon.
Then I record again at, I think I recorded at two.
Then I skated for about an hour and a half or so.
I posted that on Instagram.
Then I made a keto grilled cheese.
Yes, it was almond and walnut flour with egg and then you microwave it.
And then we came to do this show.
So, and then on the weekends, I just sit there staring at the wall, frustrated, shaking, like, I need to make more videos.
seamus coughlin
No, that's not true.
It's a much more blank stare than that.
ian crossland
I kind of want to do a show on the weekend, do you?
tim pool
I used to do shows on the weekend, but I stopped.
I had no time to do any other work.
ian crossland
This last weekend, I was like, man, I want to create something.
tim pool
The issue was that I used to, I think for three years, zero days off, working every single day of the week.
And the problem was I didn't have time for any other business development.
I couldn't go to the bank, couldn't do paperwork, couldn't plan stuff.
And I was like, I got to take weekends off, man.
And now weekends are just kind of boring.
But I guess, you know, just skate.
ian crossland
The whole, like, weekend-weekday thing is kind of antiquated, too.
Like, what's the difference?
Every day is a day.
tim pool
There's no news on Saturday, so Saturdays are extremely difficult to produce for because nobody works.
ian crossland
But that's what confuses me.
Why does no one work?
Why have we decided as a society that Monday through Friday we work, Saturday and Sunday we don't, and we'll change the way we describe the day?
unidentified
I mean, you could do Wednesday to Sunday, and then Monday and Tuesday just become... Yeah, it's a pop culture crisis.
tim pool
It's because Saturday and Sunday are both the Sabbath.
So it's a religious literally they're both depending on which which which religion and you're supposed to rest You are supposed to is that it right you rest the Lord's Day in the Sabbath?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so yes, basically basically, but also I think there's there's also just value in general about having Time off for people, you know, yeah, yeah clear the mind.
tim pool
Yeah, we got a good one here This is Adam Gray says Senate election needs to go back to the state legislature appointment That is a check and balance on the Supreme Court.
We lost when it was made to be popular vote agreed What is that the 17th?
seamus coughlin
You want to look up the 17th amendment?
tim pool
I think it's the 17th amendment and I want to make sure real quick.
You have it?
ian crossland
Yeah, popular election of senators.
tim pool
Abolish it!
Reveal it!
unidentified
One of the weirdest things about America is that you guys vote for judges here.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
unidentified
That's so strange to me.
seamus coughlin
Oh yeah, what do you Canadians do?
unidentified
They're like lawyers.
seamus coughlin
Throw truckers in jail, I don't want to hear it!
unidentified
I mean, I love America, but they're not always lawyers, right?
tim pool
Judges?
unidentified
Yeah, judges here, you just kind of...
tim pool
99% they're lawyers.
unidentified
But sometimes they're not and you're like, what was that about?
In Canada, at least, they're always lawyers.
seamus coughlin
I don't know, man.
I don't trust a lawyer to decide a case.
unidentified
That seems, but in a judge sense.
I mean, I guess Jerry Springer, is he a lawyer?
seamus coughlin
That's a good question.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Eric Nielsen says homeschooling is possible.
Waldorf Essentials and Season of 7 Virtual School is empowering parents to take charge of their kids' education.
Very cool.
Nay Slayer says Louisiana has a trigger law making abortion illegal immediately upon roe being overturned.
seamus coughlin
Amazing.
tim pool
And I said it, but I'll say it again.
Right now, there are probably states being like, we can enact a total outright ban because we know we're going to win in two months.
So just do it.
unidentified
Oh, there'll be probably a bunch of them tomorrow morning.
tim pool
Yup.
They might, they're probably like, we have trigger laws, but, uh, let's just do it now.
They'll get sued and that's it.
It's over.
But I imagine what will happen is there's going to be more lawsuits and more challenges in different ways that will end up going to the Supreme Court.
And if the court changes by one vote, there you go.
One vote.
All right.
True Binis says, and decentralization begins.
Oh, man.
Okay.
What is this one?
Can I read this one?
Ricky says, make abortion legal, but anytime a woman gets pregnant, an attorney will be appointed to the fetus.
Someone needs to stand for those who can't stand.
That would be interesting.
Cause that would just prevent all abortions.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
I mean, how can you give the death penalty to someone who hasn't done anything?
unidentified
I just want to see that lawyer goes, your honor, my client just threw up inside the womb.
Yeah.
Well, no, I guess once they're your honor, my client doesn't want to die.
No.
tim pool
Okay.
unidentified
I guess they're not alive at that point.
tim pool
You have to sue the fetus inside you.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm suing you to get out of my body.
Oh, I'm going to sneeze.
All right, let's go.
Bernie Katsuroi, what?
seamus coughlin
Smacky Frog, that killed me.
tim pool
Which one?
seamus coughlin
Smacky Frog.
tim pool
You are a handmaiden.
He said, you're a handmaid, Harry.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
seamus coughlin
We got to write that.
tim pool
Yeah, can we get someone to write that?
ian crossland
I'll text it to you.
tim pool
Harry Handmaids.
lydia smith
I don't like that.
seamus coughlin
Harry Handmaids and the Stone's Tale or something like that.
unidentified
You're a handmaid, Harry.
tim pool
It's a woman named Harry or what?
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
All right.
All right.
seamus coughlin
Name is Of Harry.
tim pool
What was I gonna read?
Bernie Katsuroi says, Tim, along with classic American literature like Mark Twain's works, I will always be saddened that the same was done to the Laura Ingalls Wilder award, those little house books many of us grew up on.
Interesting.
I'm not familiar.
lydia smith
I don't know much about that.
tim pool
Nash McGraw says, compromise, the right gives up the death penalty, the left gives up abortion, pro-life across the board.
lydia smith
Hey!
How about that?
tim pool
No killing.
Everyone's vegan.
unidentified
No.
seamus coughlin
No.
Then why do you have slave prisoners in that chicken coop who you force to make money for you?
You force them into labor and prop them up for their exploitation.
tim pool
I've told you this already, Seamus.
There is a pandemic right now, and I am keeping them safe in that pen from the pandemic that they're not allowed to leave from.
seamus coughlin
I didn't see one chicken in a mask.
Try again.
tim pool
Well, you know.
They don't have to wear masks, but there really is a chicken pandemic going on.
seamus coughlin
I know.
tim pool
That's kind of crazy.
I heard about this.
So in exchange for that safety, you know, they just got to do as they're told.
With the bird flu?
Yeah.
It's killing all the chickens.
So, um, you know, these chickens just, it's, it's, you know, 15 days of slow spread started January of 2021.
And, uh, just gotta keep going until the cases go down, but they've only gotten worse.
seamus coughlin
So how would, I'm curious how that would be transmitted to the chickens that you have, like a chicken from another, another chicken city runs on over and he coughs on one of your chickens?
tim pool
Well, we bought chickens.
seamus coughlin
Or they go eating before 8 PM, um, without their masks.
tim pool
Like what, how would a chicken, What happens is, if you get the chickens wet after midnight, then... That's what does it, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Don't feed them, no matter how much they ask you.
I'm actually genuinely curious about that.
How could that spread to your chickens?
unidentified
If they're eating standing up.
tim pool
If they come in contact with other chickens, or chicken poop, or anything like that.
ian crossland
Jet stream.
I think COVID was spreading through the jet stream.
seamus coughlin
You're probably pretty safe.
tim pool
Yeah, but we bought chickens, so they had to be quarantined.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I get what you're saying, yeah.
tim pool
Alright, Baron of Grey Matter says the leaking of this decision could be construed as an insurrection because it incites violence against the government.
These are dangerous times.
I don't think so, but I see what you're saying.
You're a handmaid, Harry.
unidentified
Now get to work!
lydia smith
So good.
tim pool
Yo, I can't believe it.
It's crazy.
People are reporting on this.
Just, Bro v. Wade.
Wow.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Wow, Seamus.
Yes, maybe a bit louder, sir.
seamus coughlin
Sorry, I was very happy when I was yelling about Bro v. Wade being overturned.
tim pool
Someone had a funny one, but it just disappeared.
ian crossland
Did you say Bro v. Wade earlier?
unidentified
Bro v. Wade.
seamus coughlin
Bro v. Wade.
Oh my God.
lydia smith
There's a joke in there somewhere.
seamus coughlin
There is a joke in there.
It's about like all the bro choicers are like, I care about women's rights.
And it's like literally just like wanting consequence-free sexual access.
tim pool
All right, Waffle Sensei says, the Left argues the 14th Amendment prevents the government from intervening in a woman's personal life and choices, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and the baby is property.
The Right says the baby has human rights, so the Left pretends babies aren't human.
Agreed.
That's the problem with the whole argument with the Left, is that, you know, like, I think it was Vosch we had here, because we rarely have Leftists, and he said, when he was asked, I think Charlie Kirk asked him, when is a baby, like, alive?
He said, I don't know, sometime after birth.
And it's just like, come on.
Like, there are babies that can be born at like... 21 weeks?
Yeah, that can survive.
I asked this question to Vosh on Twitter.
It's funny how, like, so many of these lefties just lose their minds and they're a waste of time to interact with.
But with Vosh, I asked him, if there was a procedure where a baby, at any stage, a fetus, could be taken out and implanted in a faux womb, do you think that should be mandated for all, you know, pregnancy terminations, or do you think it doesn't matter?
And then he said, I think his answer was something was like, it would have to be up to the mother to
decide or something like that. It would be her choice. And then I asked him if a woman is punched
in the stomach by a man and she's pregnant, but miscarries because of it. Should there be enhanced
penalties because of the baby's death or, uh, and if there are, should the charges be as the baby,
the baby is the victim or the mother is the victim, or should there be no additional charges at all?
And then he responded with, the law has to be consistent and there would be additional charges or whatever, which didn't really answer the question.
But my point was, if you want additional charges for punching a pregnant woman, what are those charges stemming from?
The rights of the baby, like the baby was attacked and harmed?
Or the rights of the woman, because the pregnancy is something special to her that you took away from her as property?
ian crossland
I think it's the rights of the woman, personally.
tim pool
Then the rights of the woman, then it wouldn't matter that she miscarried.
Of course not.
Unless you consider the baby to be her property.
In that case, her property was damaged.
ian crossland
You know what gets me is like, I have no responsibility to keep you alive, Seamus.
Like, that's your job.
And my job is to keep myself alive.
So why is it these little babies are born and people feel like they have a duty or a right to keep, like they have a, to keep it alive.
If no one wants it alive.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, also because you're not my parent, but a parent does have a responsibility to care for their child.
ian crossland
If there is no parent or if the parent doesn't want it for whatever, I guess that doesn't want it is kind of, what were you going to say?
tim pool
If a parent has a child they don't want and they say just kick the kid out of the house, they go to prison.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
You'd have to give it up for adoption.
tim pool
Yeah, but you can literally take a baby and put on the doorstep of a police station and walk away.
lydia smith
Fire department, yeah.
tim pool
Fire departments.
seamus coughlin
You can't take someone else's baby and put them on the doorstep of a police station.
unidentified
Hold on.
ian crossland
So someone could give birth and then put the baby on a fire department?
tim pool
This is the crazy thing when you hear these stories about, you know, prom night dumpster babies.
The woman, like in many instances, has given birth and then just throws the baby in a dumpster and it's like, dude, you can walk to a fire department And just knock and put the baby there and it's legal, you're allowed to do it.
ian crossland
As long as someone sees it?
tim pool
No, no, you put the baby there.
ian crossland
Then what responsibility does the fire department have of keeping that thing alive?
unidentified
No, it's not a bunch of firefighters raising the baby.
What kind of sitcom do you think this is going to become?
No, it's they go find a home for it.
tim pool
Yo, that's a great idea for a sketch.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
The firefighters.
Oh hey, I guess we're raising this baby, huh?
Yeah, let's go.
You gotta do a movie trailer sketch about that.
It's like, 12 firefighters, one baby!
How is this legal?
Hey, does anybody know how to change a diaper?
tim pool
And then it's like, cleaning.
seamus coughlin
Not with the fire hose!
unidentified
Not with the fire hose!
tim pool
And it's like, they thought the only emergencies they'd be dealing with were fire.
We got a level six stinker over here!
But then it gets heartwarming where it's like, the kid's like seven and they're reading the book.
And they're like, how to be a fireman.
They're reading the instruction manual.
seamus coughlin
He becomes a little psycho who plays with matches.
unidentified
It has to end with like... That's the one where they gotta deal with the kid, the errand boy.
tim pool
The end of the movie is an epilogue where it's like 20 years later, and the kid's just like 6'3", super ripped, and like a heroic firefighter.
No, I was gonna say, like, this is a story about how saving a life is important.
seamus coughlin
Well, this actually sounds more like a story about a superhero firefighter, and then we hear his backstory, and his backstory is that he was raised by a firefighter.
tim pool
Oh yeah, it'll be like, it'll start with him explaining, like, how did you come to be?
unidentified
Yeah, he's the narrator.
He's like, well, I started on prom night in 2021.
ian crossland
Yeah, but they had no other choice.
All right.
tim pool
We have a lot of funny Super Chats, but we'll just read one more because we're going along.
We've got to get this to members only.
All right.
Carlos Toro says, Tim, how could those Supreme Court votes been so straight?
As far as we remember, one of them couldn't define what a woman was.
She might be voting on men's abortion since they menstruate as well.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
It'd be funny if Katanji voted in favor and like Roberts voted, he voted for Roe v. Wade and she voted against it because she was confused and didn't know what a woman was.
So it was like, It was supposed to be being upheld, but she didn't know what a woman was, so she was like, men's rights!
seamus coughlin
You know, I was told by a number of left-wingers that if men could get pregnant, we wouldn't even be debating abortion.
unidentified
Uh, men can get pregnant!
Yeah, get with the times, Handmaid's!
tim pool
Alright, everybody.
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Tell them, guys, this is the best show.
You should watch it because it really helps.
We have spent zero dollars marketing this show.
What's up?
seamus coughlin
The final super chat.
Wait, where do you guys think firefighters come from?
tim pool
We only have firefighters because women give up their babies.
That's why we do it.
That's why we do it.
seamus coughlin
What is that name, by the way?
I don't want to steal their joke without giving their name.
tim pool
It's just a bunch of random letters.
Alright, smash the like button, head over to TimCast.com, become a member.
We're gonna have that members only show coming up at 11 p.m.
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If you like the Times Square billboard, we got more coming.
And boy, are we gonna get some people all rustled up.
So, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.
Like I said, you can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
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unidentified
At Danny Jokes Everywhere.
Tomorrow night on my YouTube, youtube.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.
seamus coughlin
I am Seamus Goglin.
I got a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We upload a new cartoon every single week.
I just got a bunch of ideas for some new cartoons.
unidentified
Please do the firefighter. I hit the notification bell when people go to low-value mail. Where is it?
They can just if they type in low-value mail Mal or it's just on my youtube youtube.com slash my name
ian crossland
Danny Paul and then the call-in is that all there like all the
unidentified
M9 p.m. You'll see it. It's a you can just I saw tons of 20s in the chat tonight and I'm looking for 20 more of them tomorrow.
Bill it is like a bad advice show, but we can talk about whatever. It's fun. I give really bad advice
I give some good advice sometimes and but it's just a fun time
ian crossland
I want to give a special shout out to everyone out in chat that was rolling 20s for me all night
I saw tons of 20s in the chat tonight, and I'm looking for 20 more of them tomorrow
unidentified
So I love you all and I'll see you later. So Tim said that we haven't done any marketing
lydia smith
I don't think that's entirely true because all evening I've been getting, I don't know if you guys are familiar with iFunny.
I'm sure some of you guys are on there.
It tends to be conservative, but they have a lot of memes and a lot of our titles from our clips are going viral on iFunny.
So he's just sending me these screenshots and I'm like, that's weird.
It's not paid marketing.
It's correct, but it is a form of marketing, which I love.
The viral marketing, not paid.
tim pool
We've not spent any money on marketing for this show.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But that will change.
lydia smith
It's all grassroots, which I really love.
I think that's even cooler than advertising.
tim pool
I remember several people being like, so to get to this point, how much did you have to spend in marketing?
And I was like, nothing.
lydia smith
Zero.
tim pool
And they were like, wait, what?
I was like, we didn't spend any money.
And they were like, you mean that your channel's organic?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All of it?
And I was like, yeah, it's all organic.
And they were like, whoa.
ian crossland
That's kind of the thing about, one of the things about YouTube that really is great is that it's marketing is built into the system itself.
So like it will propagate you to the top if your stuff is good and does well.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
No, bro.
ian crossland
Not all the time.
tim pool
Most, most shows are marketing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Even, even PewDiePie would complain about the YouTube algorithm and the algorithm is really a nice question.
Anyway, you guys can follow me at SarahPatriotsOnMinds.com and Twitter, and I will see you all later.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
And while you're waiting, head over to Chicken City and watch some sleeping chickens.
Just go to ChickenCityLive.com, and you'll see that live stream right there, and they're all just peacefully slumbering.
And then at 11 p.m., we'll publish that members only, and we'll see y'all there.
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