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April 15, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Twitter Adopts POISON PILL To Block Elon Musk Takeover w/Brett Cooper & Ben Stewart

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Elon Musk tries to buy Twitter, right?
		And he offers up this legitimate offer, $54.20 per share to buy everybody out.
		Instead of going to the shareholders, the board announces what's called a poison pill, which basically bars Elon Musk from buying up the company through public means.
		They may still entertain his offer, but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen.
		And it looks like we are about to see one of the biggest culture war battles, the most significant we've ever seen.
		I think Elon Musk has exposed so much dirty dealing.
		And it says a lot about how wealthy, billionaires, corporate interests are manipulating the public and don't care about money because they're getting money from the Fed.
		They don't care about the cost.
		They want the power and the influence.
		Even Recode, a Vox.com blog, says exactly this.
		That Twitter is where journalists and politicians get out their message.
		Well, surprise, surprise.
		Guess who is getting banned?
		Yeah, it's mostly the right, it's mostly libertarians.
		Sometimes there are anti-war leftists and some left-wingers who will get banned, but typically not.
		That's the power, and they know it.
		We got a couple other stories.
		You know, it's funny, we're talking about Elon Musk because World War III apparently started.
		Russian state TV said the sinking of the Russian flagship, the Moskva.
		Moskva.
		I'm sorry, not specifically, but after this they said, the weapons we are up against.
		are from NATO. They're trying to maintain that the ship sank due to a fire, but the Ukrainians are
		saying we basically hit it with a Neptune missile, so we'll talk about that. We definitely got to
		talk about the secrets of Dumbledore. It's Friday, we're gonna get into it. I haven't seen it,
		but joining us to explain what's wrong with the plot is Brett Cooper. Hey guys, how are you?
unidentified		I mean, okay, so... Well, you know, we don't need to get into it right now.
		It's just, it's interesting.
		It's a mediocre film.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The real story on our end is that they gutted the plot for the Chinese version because Dumbledore prefers the company of men.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And in China, they're like, no, no, we can't, you know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a real secret.
unidentified		Yeah, right.
unidentified		It's just for America.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, Brad, do you want to introduce yourself?
unidentified		Yeah, I am Brett Cooper.
		I am the newest host at Daily Wire.
		I host the comment section with Brett Cooper.
		It's a daily social media cultural reaction show.
		It's been up and running for about a month now.
		It's super fun.
		I come from a background in acting.
		I was a professional actor for 10 years in Los Angeles.
		Went to UCLA and now I'm here in Nashville doing politics and culture.
		It's fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
		Thanks for coming.
		We also got Ben Stewart.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I'm actually Michaela Peterson, but none of you are biologists, so it's okay.
		No, benjosephstewart.com.
		That's where you can check out all my films, all the work that I do.
		Also, Ben Stewart Podcast on YouTube.
		And happy to be back.
		I think this is my fourth time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Glad to have you.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		It's the fourth turning.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll get into that, too, maybe, with the World War III stuff, for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hi, everyone.
		Ian Crossland.
		You know me, and you love me.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
		And I'm also here in the corner pushing buttons.
		I'm excited to have Brett.
		I always love having ladies on, and tonight's gonna be a super chill evening, especially with Ben.
		It's gonna be good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, before we get started, my friends, you gotta head over to TimCast.com.
		Become a member to help support the work we do here, these trips we do.
		We came down to the DailyWire headquarters so we could do fun stuff.
		You guys, if you didn't see it, we did this crossover stream where I ran out of the trailer and they're filming it with Remote Tech.
		All of this is possible because you guys are members, helping us grow the company, hire more people, expand the business, and we're taking over the world, figuratively, with your help.
		We're gonna challenge the media and, uh, You're going to get access to exclusive episodes of the TimCastIRL podcast, but what I wanted to say is, I used to say that if you guys like, share, subscribe, you share this video, we could be bigger than CNN.
		That's right, if every person watching right now just shared the URL, we could be bigger than CNN!
		Well, ladies and gentlemen, CNN plus has less daily active users than we do.
		So I guess, you know, we've, we've sort of met that milestone.
		So thank you.
		We really, really appreciate it.
		And all of you who are members are a part of that movement where you can laugh and say that you support real media and CNN plus is failing.
		I just want to say one thing on that.
		I see these journalists constantly promoting CNN plus who don't work there.
		And I'm just like, it's sad at this point.
		It's like, I know your friends have a company and it's not working, but stop trying to make it happen.
		It's like, it's, it's not going to happen.
		So, uh, yeah.
		But let's talk about the news.
		Again, smash that like button.
		The first story we have here from TimGuest.com.
		Twitter board utilizes poison pill to stop Elon Musk from buying the company.
		The plan intends to reduce the likelihood that any entity, person, or group gains control of Twitter.
		Check this out.
		Do you guys know how this works?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Kind of.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this is, if Elon Musk tries to buy up more than 15% of the company, they're going to offer special stock to the other investors at a discount rate so they can dilute the equity power that Elon would have.
		Meaning, no matter how much he buys, the other investors can buy up and take away the power he's buying.
		They're effectively destroying their own company to stop Elon Musk from ending their censorship.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's probably because the Saudi Arabian king is involved with- Prince.
		The prince as well, the Saudi Arabian state as well, so I imagine it's all going through the king.
		But also, elaborate, I know there's a prince who invested- The prince tweeted out, and it also said that the state itself.
		He said the kingdom and- But is that just his company, or- Well, to be honest, to be fair, I don't know, I assume that that was the kingdom itself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I saw ZeroHedge tweeted that he actually sold his shares.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that's true.
unidentified		The Prince?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Prince sold his shares.
		I don't know if that's true.
		It's hard to know, but I think the big play here is that the people who own Twitter, as we mentioned the other day and what we can get into now, they want the power, the political power of Twitter to control the conversation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Saudis aside, I think it's Vanguard.
		Vanguard upped their stake to say, now we own more than Elon.
		So there's some very nefarious corporate interests that want control of this mouthpiece that is Twitter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you guys think?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Vanguard and Blackrock have a pretty substantial Disney stake as well.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They also own each other, which is weird.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like they own 2% of the other?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's inbred, if you will.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, I had to go there.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		It's a little inbred when it comes to the money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the crazy thing, right?
		Let me ask you this question, Brett.
		Do you use Twitter a lot?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you always used Twitter a lot?
unidentified		No, only this year.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, because only this year, so only for a few months.
unidentified		Oh no, as of last, so in the last year.
unidentified		It was like early 2021.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you are 20 years old, Gen Z, and you're only recently getting involved in Twitter.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Twitter is, it's like the political space, right?
		Like, how do your friends feel about it?
		Younger people?
unidentified		Honestly, it is not the most used.
		I think Instagram and TikTok are just what is most heavily dominated in politics.
		Everybody is on Twitter.
		So my friends that are in the political sphere, they are very active.
		But outside of that, people have like a burner account, basically, where they go to just look at memes.
		But They don't tweet anything.
		They're not involved.
		It's kind of like, oh yeah, I'll check Twitter.
		But it's a very, I think in normal circles, it's kind of outdated.
		Like, that's just whatever.
		And I never really had a reason or an interest in being on it until I started.
		I was writing for fee and they were like, you need to be on there to, you know, promote your articles and that kind of stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that's not even true.
		Yeah.
		So, when I worked at Fusion, they didn't have Twitter.
		I think, it's been a while, but we had a conversation about how, you know, websites like to put the social media links so you can tweet out the story, post the stories, and they didn't care about Twitter, and I asked them why, and they said, Twitter doesn't drive traffic.
		And so I was like, okay.
		For me, I was like, Twitter's really important.
		But back in the day, when it was the free speech wing of the free speech party, it was really important.
		Now, like I mentioned, I'll post like a picture of a hairless rabbit for no reason and just post nonsense because the platform is garbage.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Twitter's kind of like the repository social media network.
		I signed up in 08, didn't use it till 2019 because I thought it was crap, but YouTube is where it's at.
		The video makes you famous and then they come and follow you on Twitter when they find out you have a Twitter account.
		No one finds you on Twitter.
		That's not how it works.
		I mean, maybe not no one, but it's not.
unidentified		Well, people found me on Twitter when they realized that I looked like Ben Shapiro.
		That's where I got the bulk of mine.
		I had, like, 400 followers, and then Jeremy retweeted the side-by-side of me and Ben, and it was like, okay, now you have 20,000, and I was like, okay.
		Wow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Pinch weed on your account right now.
unidentified		Yeah, you can go check it out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm Brett Cooper.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People were chatting, female Ben Shapiro.
		But, uh, you're taller.
		I am.
		Ben's actually not that short.
		That's the funny thing.
		We just hung out with him the other day, and I'm like, everybody says he's short.
		And then he walks up to me, and I'm like, oh, he's actually a fairly average, totally normal guy.
		They just like lying and making things up because they want to hate on people.
		But anyway, back to the reason I was asking you these questions.
		Twitter's a failing company.
		Like, yo, I'm 36, Ian's 75.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		You look good though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You look good, yeah.
		No, but like, in all seriousness, we're an older demographic and you have to get young people involved in your culture if you want that culture to persist.
		Twitter seems to be on a train track that leads just flying off a cliff.
		They're not convincing young people to be involved in what Twitter is.
		They have turned Twitter into an activist blog.
		Yo, I called this.
		I said several years ago when they were banning all the fun people, the trolls and the silliness and the memes, I was like, dude, it's going to turn into a left-wing activist blog.
		And it's going to have 10 people and eventually it's going to be one guy and some people might visit it.
		But so why would a young person want to go on a platform to be lectured by old fogies complaining about policy?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Instagram and I think Instagram and TikTok, you mentioned, it's pictures and video.
		I mean, it's video for the most part.
		Twitter's text.
		It's a lot of text.
		You know, you go there to read and research, essentially, but not to have fun.
		I don't know.
		Is it fun for you?
unidentified		I mean, I enjoy it because for my show, which is technically me diving into comment sections and that kind of thing.
		It's my... I know.
		It's the... I go into the trenches, my friends.
		Um, it is, it's the hub of my research, basically, so I enjoy it because, but most of the stuff that I'm looking at is like, you know, batshit crazy things, and so I personally enjoy it, but I wouldn't go on there if this wasn't, like, my work.
		I would probably choose TikTok, I would choose YouTube, yeah, I would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it used to be fun.
		People would go on and they'd post memes, they'd share memes like crazy, and they would troll.
		Trolling was fun.
		And then we get this, like the CEO now, Parag Agrawal, he's like, you know, it's not about free speech, it's about the current state of things and having a healthy conversation.
		And it's like, dude, if I wanted to go to like a youth seminar where they explained to me, you know, morals or something, sure, I'd book it.
		If I wanna go and just post my thoughts and tell people, like, here's a funny joke, you can't do that on Twitter anymore, so what do you do?
		You gotta go somewhere else.
unidentified		What about Reddit?
unidentified		Is Reddit still... I use Reddit sometimes, but how are they with censorship?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's the worst.
unidentified		I was gonna say, that's what I've heard.
unidentified		I know that, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, it's... You know what it is?
		It's like, it feels like the school principal has taken over the social media platforms.
		And it's like we used to, you know, throw bouncing balls down the hall and then run after it.
		Now the principal's in the hallway all day going like, hey you, don't do that!
		And we're like, this is so lame, let's go somewhere else.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think Lauren Southern tweeted out that it was like only five years ago that if someone got banned off of YouTube or Twitter, it was like global news.
		And now, geez.
		You blink and then, like, a bunch of accounts are gone.
		I don't know, who's the most recent fan?
		Does it even matter?
		But it's just, it's disturbing how slippery the slope can be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Remember how fun Alex Jones was?
		Yes!
		So, was there a point where you ever used Twitter in any, even a little bit, before?
unidentified		Never.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's the thing, I think, where, you know, I look at the Elon Musk stuff and I'm just like, dude, Twitter is blowing itself up on purpose.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It has to be.
unidentified		And that was another thing that I felt with Elon, that it's like, I love what he's doing, the statement that he's making, but I also kind of had the opinion, like, it already is, like you're saying, a sinking ship.
		There's so much other crap that's going on in the world.
		There's so many communities that need us, that, I mean, you know, everything else, and it's like, this is great, but also... No, he's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elon Musk is right.
		Yeah.
		He posted the top ten Twitter accounts that some of them haven't even posted this year.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like Justin Bieber or whatever.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because the platform is dead.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's users on it.
		They gain a little bit of users.
		Dude...
		You know, we were talking to Jeremy about this and he's like, hey, I said, I don't even take it seriously anymore.
		I used to post news stories.
		Now it's like I just, I post like Chicken City is some great accomplishment because I'm just, I'm like, it's a garbage platform filled with garbage people who just want to just, they rag on you, they lie about you, they smear you.
		There's no good conversations.
		There's no fun.
		There's no jokes.
		You'll get banned for saying learn to code.
		I don't take it seriously.
		And then, you know, he's like, you have a million followers though.
		And I'm like, I don't, I don't know why, but I actually do know why.
		It's what you said.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		YouTube fame.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, people will watch these shows and then they'll follow on Twitter because they want to just like see their newsfeed and see information.
		But I can't take a platform seriously if it's dying.
		And it is.
		I can gain followers.
		I'll put it this way.
		Let's say there's a hundred million people that are using the site at any moment.
		Sure, I have a million followers, so I can lose a bunch and gain a bunch within that sphere, but it feels like the sphere of actual functioning valuable users is just going down.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Elon said it was like the Town Square, and that's why he wants to buy it to free it.
		I don't know if he's right about that.
		It doesn't... I'm on it a little bit, but it's such a small thing.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like the bathroom stall wall, it feels like.
unidentified		Yeah.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		More than the Town Square.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if him just saying, okay, forget it, I'm not buying it, let it fail, might be the right move, than try and waste energy and time pouring all this money into some, you know, relatively dying platform.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It'd be cool if he could free the software code, but we really don't need it.
unidentified		What would be the town square, though?
		YouTube?
		Yeah, I guess.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not centralized.
		There's disparate communities.
		The thing about Twitter is it's really easy to overlap with different groups.
		So, you know, Ben was mentioning that he trends once every three weeks, and it's because one of his tweets will merge into another community, which will then go nuts about it.
		YouTube doesn't do that.
		YouTube is much more rigid, you know?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, you don't get shown stuff that is outside of their... It's very siloed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't retube a video.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		True, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		True.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And so, they used to have that.
		Your channel page.
		You could post stuff on your channel page and all your followers would see your channel posts.
		That was in 2007.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think you can still do that if you like.
unidentified		Yeah, your community.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you like stuff, but YouTube can't capture that.
		So Twitter became this rapid... It became political because it's... What are you posting?
		You're posting ideas.
		YouTube, you're posting videos.
		Instagram, you're posting photos.
		So it makes sense that the platform that typically is about text, idea, concepts, information would become political news, some of the highest level stuff.
		The problem is Twitter sought to light itself on fire, burn itself to the ground, and make it a trash platform that nobody wants to use.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was doomed from the beginning.
		2008, there's videos of me in 2008 when all the people are like, hey, this new thing, it's Twitter.
		I'm like, oh great, another one.
		We just did Facebook.
		We already have YouTube.
		What are you guys doing?
		We just have, we have our, and they're like, we're going to tweet our message, our six word messages to each other.
		I'm like, dude, text is going to warp our minds.
		Don't fall into it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree and disagree, especially with the text warping your mind, but disagree on the prospects of Twitter.
		When I started using it, I think I signed up in 2009, I was like, what's the big deal with this?
		And then within a little while I was like, whoa.
		Now I get it.
		The rapid virality.
		Like, you tweet something, and if it's good information, if it's a funny joke, it ripples outward in a massive wave that gets bigger.
		That little pebble you drop can become a tsunami.
		Remember that woman who was on a plane and she made that joke about AIDS and then her phone was off and then when she landed they destroyed her life?
		She had like 200 followers.
		Did you ever hear this story?
		This lady had like 200 followers and then she made a joke about how white people tend not to get AIDS in Africa but it was actually a social justice joke.
		The point she was making was that The people who are mostly victimized by this tend to be black, and she said it in a tongue-in-cheek way.
		This was, like, one of the first major cancellations, I think.
		The tweet went viral, and she was just some, like, random woman.
		And she lands, and she, like, had a panic attack.
		There were news stories written about her.
		They were going nuts.
		You know what ends up happening is people, like, there's this viral thread going around explaining how Elon Musk will not be able to save the platform because he doesn't understand that Web 1.0 is over.
		The era of the Wild West Internet is gone.
		And this guy explains that in the beginning of the Internet, it was the frontier.
		It was barren wastelands.
		Yeah, you can go out into the middle of a barren wasteland and scream whatever stupid,
		ridiculous nonsense you want, because ain't nobody gonna hear it.
		Eventually some people show up, and then those who don't like hearing the crazy guy in the
		desert screaming leave, and those who think it's funny stick around and watch.
		But where we're at now with the internet, the foundations have been built.
		It's not just the frontier anymore, it's totally urbanized.
		The internet now is the world.
		You can't just go into the middle of the city and start screaming insane things.
		The cops will come and tell you to keep it down.
		They'll say you have your free speech, but you can't scream.
		People will come and scream back at you.
		A fight might break out.
		And so what this guy is saying is, because of that, censorship emerges.
		And he's like, the only thing the big tech platforms want is for you to calm the F down, be civil.
		And I'm reading this and I'm like, dudes right about the frontier thing, wrong about the censorship and what they want.
		The people at Twitter, Are all biased.
		Not every single person, I mean like the higher-ups, they are.
		They think they're not.
		They are.
		It's baked into their rules.
		They will ban you for calling someone dude, like when they suspended Zuby.
		And this makes it not fun.
		And if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong.
		I don't want- I'll put it this way.
		How many of you, on your day off, would decide to go somewhere so that someone can scream in your face about how ugly you are?
		You'd be like, ah, no, I'll just go to the movies instead, right?
		That's what Twitter has become by eliminating the fun and by their outright bias.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I think what you said about the Web One concept is definitely true.
		And you know, you see Facebook changing the name to Meta.
		The Metaverse, according to Bloomberg standards, should be like in, I think they said like an $800 billion industry by 2024.
		And I'm just curious how Twitter would be able to kind of keep up in that kind of direction.
		I know that text will always be relevant in that respect.
		I just kind of wonder, it's less versatile.
		I wonder if it could start moving in that direction.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If Elon buys it and links it up with the neural net, maybe.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I was going to say, when I asked about the town square thing immediately, the first thing that came to my mind was, well, maybe it will be the metaverse.
		And especially if it's, you know, Web 2.0 or whatever this is where, you know, we're talking about like cops or Screaming at you, that kind of thing.
		I'm imagining there was this, I think it was Wall Street Journal, they had one of their journalists go live in the metaverse for 24 hours and she did a YouTube video about it.
		They put her in a hotel room and they gave her food.
		And she had to do all of her meetings, she worked out, she went to bars in it, and she just lived in it and she had to deal with all of these random people and I was like, oh my god, maybe that is the future of our Social media and so imagine what censorship would be like in the metaverse.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I was just gonna say there's a it's something that truth theory on Instagram posted that there's a guy who lived a
		week in the metaverse he only had the goggles on and
		Like you whatever like eat everything and he said that there were like amazing aspects to it because he would go
		to like Meditation class and he was meditating for like an hour two
		hours a day But like there was parts of it that were making him go
		insane and his dream dreams really messed up because of it, dude
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I had a dream three nights ago where I was in a video game, but it was realistic
		It was like this and in order to get through the part that I was at
		I had to kill a dog in the game, you know I can warcraft world of warcraft you have to fight dogs and
		stuff and But it was real and it was a little dog and they were like
		I was like, how do I do this?
		They're like the most human humane way you know you got to choke it you got it that's
		all I did in the dream and it was so disturbing and now I'm thinking about these
		people going into the VR metaverse and they're gonna be killing things like a
		video game but it's gonna seem real what is that gonna do to people talk
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		about video games make people violent I sickeningly I have
		I agree and disagree.
		I think there are gonna be... It's very different from playing a video game with the controller where you're watching a screen and you have some kind of avatar or first-person shooter.
		You know, we've seen many studies that video games don't cause violence.
		They can desensitize in other ways that can make violence worse if you're prone to it.
		I think the real issue is that if you're a regular person and you do metaverse stuff, I don't think you're going to go around beating dogs.
		But if you're prone to these things, then this could exacerbate or at least desensitize you and make, you know, the tendency to violence worse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A lot of video games, maybe, I don't know, 90%, 80% of them are fighting, shooting, punching, kicking.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you get that, and that's all of a sudden all these people are... Geez, I'm sorry, Ben.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've done a deep dive.
		There's Into the Metaverse and Welcome to the Metaverse, these two podcasts.
		I think Into the Metaverse is Bloomberg-specific.
		And, like, just going deep on, like, what is this?
		And a lot of people, a lot of the execs that they have, they're like, this is huge, but it's not, like, crypto.
		It's not something you just dump money into.
		You need to understand what it's here to do and, like, why there are countries, like, I think it was Sweden that bought, like, sizable real estate there for their embassy and stuff like that.
		So, like, you don't have to go, you can go and Kind of be in person, but they're like what they're really saying is like it's not like a video game think Video games having to bend to meet the internet.
		So it's spatial web.
		You're interacting with the internet It's not exactly like a video game.
		So you're right.
		There's a lot of violence and stuff like that there, but this is gaming meeting virtual like internet stuff that you would do to go and get paperwork done and the one thing I was thinking about when you were mentioning the dream is is the technology that's coming out potentially being able to give people eyesight that is only virtual but seeing something you know like hooking it in and they're seeing what they're seeing like through camera they wear these glasses in the same way that the heads-up display is mojo vision all the that kind of stuff works but they're actually seeing it through their vision so there's things like that that I got I got something for you you got you got time for a project do some crazy yes get a VR headset
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bluetooth link it to a 360 camera.
		Wear a backpack and have a 360 camera on a monopod going up over your head.
		Have the 360 degree view on your VR visor screen and learn how to see in 360.
		Crazy.
		Yeah, we planned a project a while ago, but we never actually did it, even though it's extremely easy to do.
		But the idea's out there.
		Anybody who wants to do it, do it.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I have mixed emotions, but I think I would do it.
		Have you ever, like, in school, they would put these, like, mirrored glasses on to where you see the world upside down?
		And you would just like throw a ball back and forth, but you wouldn't see it going up like this.
		You would see it coming down and up, and it was super weird.
		But once you got the hang of it, it took like 15 minutes, and eventually you got the hang of it.
		Then you take the glasses off, and you have to adjust again.
		It takes another 15 minutes to adjust back to the normal way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you, Brett.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you get the Neuralink and plug your brain into a computer?
unidentified		I don't think so, no.
		Why not?
		I don't trust it.
		I don't know.
		I'm just very wary about all of it.
		So I was, even though I, you know, live on social media now for work, I was raised without television.
		Did not, barely watched any movies growing up.
		Was not allowed to play video games.
		Was not allowed to have social media until I was, you know, 16 or something like that.
		One of the reasons why I wasn't on Twitter.
		Just read a ton.
		I was a classic homeschooled kid.
		But I, I just don't really trust That and also with some part of Neuralink where they want to be able to like control dopamine levels and like that kind of thing.
		I know that's part of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that a part of it?
unidentified		Some of it is and it's like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's scary.
unidentified		And it's like that part of it.
		I think there's something that's interesting.
		I think the technology is fascinating and it's like if you want to try go ahead.
		I'm just not going to really be your guinea pig.
		I think I trust myself more than I trust technology.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		That's the key right there.
		Technology is doing something.
		It's not that we can't do these things.
		There are ways, but a lot of the times it's like, what's the easiest way to do it?
		Take this pill and then forget about it.
		Don't engage with your healing.
unidentified		Well it reminds me of just everything these days.
		I feel like I look at the world and it's like you can get your groceries delivered to you.
		You can use an app and suddenly somebody's coming and like hanging up something in your house.
		Like everything is digitalized to the point that it's like I could just stay and never leave my house.
		And my life would function on, whether it would be like, you know, wearing VR goggles, being on Zoom, like everything that feels very tactical and real in the world slowly being eroded in my eyes and then add, you know, big pharma and we're just medicating the crap out of my generation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking forward to the psychedelic metaverse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		People are going to be like heavily on psychedelics in the They're making patches.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		They're making patches for just that.
		So patches, think cocktails, MDMA, ketamine, slight doses, but you go in to have whatever kind of experience you want to have.
		I think that's why psychedelics have gone IPO like gangbusters lately.
		is this idea of also where the metaverse is going.
		These fully immersive experiences where, like 1984, you almost don't revolt against it.
		It's servitude in a sense, but you don't revolt against it because you have everything at your disposal.
		Why get off the couch?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking a new career might be like a nanny, metaverse nannies.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They make sure you're fed and that you're able to poop and pee and take it away for you and make sure your body's clean.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		You can get robots to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So just the distinction here is the current metaverse is like you wear goggles.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The future metaverse with Neuralink is you lay down in some kind of sensory deprivation chamber floating, and you plug in your brain, and then all of a sudden your brain experiences the metaverse.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		That's a scary thought.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Somebody should make a movie about that, where you're like in this warm, gooey liquid, and you're hooked up in the back of your head and experiencing... But, you, every day, you know, you wake up, you go, oh man, what a day, and you're, and check this out, you're ripped.
		You're as fit as fit can be.
		No, no, no.
		And you don't work out.
		Because when you can plug your brain in, it just controls stimulation.
		So while you're sitting in the metaverse, your body's, you know, just twitching and being programmed to build this perfect lean body in every way.
		You know, processing the right nutrients, craving the right things, or they just plug in the feeding tube and you put it in your throat and then plug yourself in and... People don't realize.
unidentified		I wonder, what would the purpose of life then be if we were just freaked out?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To fight dragons!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Obviously!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What do you think is the purpose?
unidentified		That stresses me out!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What do you think is the purpose of life?
unidentified		Productivity and work.
		Towards what end?
		I'm more of an objectivist.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		What'd you say about like learning?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, just to what end?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To what end?
unidentified		To what end, like how far would I go?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, like if the point of life is productivity and work, to what end?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it just indefinite work and creation, or is there something where you're going?
unidentified		To leave the world a better place than I started it, or to create something tangible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can it always be better?
unidentified		I think so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Within the realm of physical creation, shouldn't there be some point where we're like, it cannot get any better than this, or something, you know?
unidentified		Maybe, do you think that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that's possible, because I feel like human innovation is kind of difficult to I suppose the thing is, if we were to say, like, what's better, it would be people being well-fed, safe, good medical care, and things like this, and better dwellings, better living, and we've dramatically improved that, thanks to capitalism, mind you.
		And with the metaverse, one could argue that you'll have everything you've ever wanted, all of those things, but it's more like heroin than it is actually making the world a better place.
		You're starving.
		You're frail and shaking in the corner, and you're like, I don't want to go work, man.
		Just plug me in the Metaverse.
		And then you walk over and you're shaking, you're like super pale, and then you plug your brain in, and then it flashes, and you're standing there 6'6", super ripped NBA star, and you're like, yeah, and you're dunking.
		And people won't want to walk away from that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or it's good that haptic feedback is gonna make your muscles strong.
		You'll be able to live like six days in the span of 20 minutes and you'll have all this knowledge when you come out and you'll be a superhuman.
		That's gonna be hard to compete with.
unidentified		What if we're in that now?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Like there's so much nuance with this because like that's a possibility for sure but I think that like what we're talking about here is like what's You were saying, to what end?
		And could the value come from being hooked up to the metaverse?
		Imagine if 7.5 billion were hooked up to the metaverse.
		Perhaps the planet would do better.
		Perhaps some species or the rate of extinction would slow down.
		But I also feel that humans... When you had Michael Knowles and Jeremy Boring were on last night.
		Okay, I thought Seamus was on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He was also on last night, yeah.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah, so that was the one that I was listening to when you guys were having the, would it be better to save the dog with the cure for cancer?
		I was thinking about all that, and the way that they were putting it is like, I feel like we are here to engage with what's already here, and to improve upon it is debatable.
		It's definitely debatable, but I definitely think that with Much of technology, it's not that we've been ripped from being able to acknowledge that we have what we need here.
		And a lot of it is like, if we were hooked up to the metaverse, would the planet actually be doing better?
		Or would we be missing the point?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, not every person on the planet is destroying it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So maybe what we would need is some powerful individual to create a system where we can round up all of those that we deem unfit and force them into the metaverse.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I like this idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, and then the world will be a better place once those people are no longer allowed to engage with it.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I think China would have the stomach to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, and then you know what we could do, like if there was a pandemic, we could weld people's doors shut and seal them inside until they starve to death.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Something about bees.
unidentified		The metaverse would be fine.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because, okay, that's a good point.
		No one's gonna want to be stuck and imprisoned in the metaverse.
		People, like any good slave, they're gonna want you to want to be in it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Brave new world.
unidentified		Not 1984.
		Well, it's like the World Economic Forum thing where they're like, in 2030 you will own nothing.
		You will, well, what is that?
		You'll be happy.
		Yeah, that kind of thing.
		That makes me think of the metaverse.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That may be true. They say you will own nothing. I think we should correct that statement from the World Economic Forum.
		What they should say is, you will own the dragon's bracers of
		ultimate power and the sword, the level 99 sword of volciferon, NFT, and you'll be so stoked.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		She's...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The problem is you only own a license to the game that they give you it in.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If I get banned off Steam, then I don't have access to any of those games.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'll own the NFT.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You just won't have a house, clothes, a car.
unidentified		You'll have your pod, though.
unidentified		You'll have the floating pod.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the best part is, you don't have to eat the bugs.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you're in the metaverse, the bugs just flow through the feeding tube into your gut.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you don't gotta think twice.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Has anyone seen the new Blade Runner with Ryan Gosling?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A while ago.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		It's a glimpse.
		Jared Leto's role in that, and what he's talking about, how, like, you know, we lost our stomach for slavery, so now we started creating the slaves, like, full-grown adults and stuff like that.
		Soundtrack's dope in that, by the way, too, but, like, Very revealing the way they look at like kind of the future of where commerce is going and having like Virtual sex slaves and things along those lines.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Blade Runner the one with Ryan Gosling It's kind of an eye-opener people are going to go insane from the metaverse Because you take a look at what's going on now with kids and let's just try to be family-friendly adult content on the internet being so just Pervasive?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Two-thirds of the internet?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The eclectic nature of it.
		Meaning, like, Rule 34?
		Rule 34, yeah.
		The one where it's like, if it exists, there's porn of it?
		Correct, yes, unfortunately.
		So, the old rules of the internet.
		Imagine what happens when you're in the metaverse, and it's not just an image you can look at, but you can actually experience.
		And so, Black Mirror did an episode about this, where the guy, he goes into the video game, where he's a woman, and he bangs a panda.
		People are going to go crazy because they're going to get out and be like, you know, I'd love to have a family with you, but I'm only attracted to clouds.
		It's like, what?
		Well, in the metaverse, you can go up to the cloud and talk to it and do what you want to do.
		You know what I'm saying?
unidentified		We're sort of at that point with people in neopronouns.
		Like I was looking at a girl on TikTok recently and she was like, I identify as like death, death self and plant, plant self.
		I mean, there is like, yeah, plant self.
		And it's, where are you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see Doll Self?
unidentified		No, that does not surprise me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She like shaved her head and she's like, I am Doll.
unidentified		Horrifying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One eye like goes, you know.
unidentified		It's up there with the furries.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's worse.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, look, look.
		I'm fairly libertarian.
		I don't care if people want to You know, dress up however you want to dress up or metaverse what they want to do.
		The point is that at a certain point, people are going to, they're going to segment away from, there's not going to be a cohesive society.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's my point.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A problem is that kids are going to go in and with haptic feedback, full body suits on so they can feel everything they're experiencing.
		And then someone else is an old man is going to be in there shaped as a cloud.
		And he's going to be like, come here.
		here, chop!" And then the kid will go up and basically have sex with this digital sex with
		this other person! And it's gonna warp, because yeah, they'll be doing it with AI and interacting,
		but it won't be the same as with another human on the other end.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, there's gonna be a predator in the game, and someone's gonna meet- it's gonna be a
		catfish, dude!
		You're going to be a 30 year old straight guy in the metaverse and
		you're going to meet this, you know, attractive young blonde woman and
		you're going to do the haptic feedback stuff and it's going to turn out to
		be like a 63 year old morbidly obese man who's like, yeah, that's right.
unidentified		Young man.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I think this is where the, the identity fluidity is coming in.
		I definitely believe that it if not intentional, it's working towards the what you can become in the metaverse.
		In the metaverse, there's already been like, I don't know if it was straight rape, because it didn't have the functionality in the game to do it.
		But harassment, like several guys coming up and cornering a girl and just not letting her out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can block someone in the metaverse?
unidentified		You should call it Metaverse Cops.
unidentified		Hold on, hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You go like this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For those that are listening, I'm motioning my hands taking the goggles off.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		But I had to take my goggles off and I didn't want to.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Against my will.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or you just click the button that teleports you to the other room.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		That could be another one.
		But a lot of what I think this is doing, when you were saying the haptic suits and as I was saying with the patches that can modulate hormones as well as Terrell McSweeney, I think she worked under Barack Obama, she's now talking about the Internet of Bodies and how it's going to get classified.
		Is it going to be something where if you have a handicap you can fix it by getting your eyesight back or is it an upgrade?
		And then once it goes that far, they've already talked about if you're a sex offender.
		And this was, I think, in 2016, Tara McSweeney was, or 2017, she was talking about this.
		You can have one of these implants that can lower your, create more inhibition against some of those drives of sexual predators.
		So then they had to start getting into, well, are they allowed to have those drives?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What about prison and what prison is?
		Let's imagine we get to the point where Neuralink is a plug in your brain, right?
		Because Elon Musk's already done that with the pigs where they put the electrodes.
		Let's say we get to the point where you actually have a port and it's wireless.
		You can wirelessly connect to the metaverse.
		Let's say you're a child predator.
		You get convicted.
		And so they say we're sentencing you to 15 years in the metaverse, but In the metaverse, it's a mundane existence where you can never act upon any of these urges and you're internal in your own basically virtual prison.
		Your body is being programmed to do menial labor.
		So the prison sentence is, your body is just, what can I get for you today?
		We have a double cheeseburger on the menu.
		In your mind, your conscious self is trapped in this metaverse reality, which is a prison.
unidentified		Feels like Handmaid's Tale.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		I'm also scared that about time warping in the game.
		So or in the metaverse on a game that where it will literally feel like 15 years of your life, but it's only 20 minutes like inception.
		And they and they can just snap you in and you're like, or you'd even do it yourself.
		You're like, I want to live a life and you do it.
		And it's like when you come back, you barely even remember your friends when you come back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a show about that we mentioned, I can't remember if it was a show or a movie, where this guy invents eye drops, and they're nanobots that are programmed to make you experience a certain amount of time.
		So, the original idea is like, you drop it in your eye, and then you're on a ski trip.
		And so it's like, in the blink of an eye, you have a weekend in, you know, Aspen.
		But then the guy's like, I want to turn into a prison.
		And so he makes like a 50-year sentence or whatever, something like that.
		And then, you know, this woman gets trapped in it or something.
		I don't know, something like that.
		It's crazy.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I think you might be referring to an episode of Black Mirror.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was it Black Mirror?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was some guys who were up north in one of these, like, um, like an arctic, um, fort or something, and they realized that they were not actually in reality, because they couldn't go outside, they couldn't do anything, they were like, oh my god.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a different movie I'm talking about.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		And there was a lady who got stuck in it, she was like screaming and trying to get help, and she, it felt like years and years had passed, and it had been like ten minutes or something.
		That is one of the most horrifying things to me.
		The idea of being able to get people to believe that it's been a really long time.
		Kind of a Rip Van Winkle effect.
		It's like insane.
		I really don't like the direction this could go.
		Who knows how we could psychologically torture people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's called Other Life.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember when I was talking about the fourth turning, the first time it came on, and it was like, during a crisis period, the most advanced weapons of war are used?
		What you just explained, Lydia, seems it to me.
		Like, you know, torture on the deepest psychological level.
		Then getting back to the prison thing, what's interesting is like, you know, prison, at least it has this, you know, attempt in the title of being a rehabilitation facility.
		Could something like that actually get more targeted into rehabilitation?
		Because I know that I think it was in Not Nevada.
		It might have been Arizona.
		There was a prison where they just decided to dress all the inmates in pink, paint all the walls pink, and it lowered crime incredibly.
		And then there's this other one in Thailand when I was out there training in Muay Thai
		where you could actually fight your way out.
		And their world champion fought his way out of prison.
		You could actually fight it out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like in Batman when they're like, if you can climb out, you're free?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		And this guy did, he became world champion.
		Then Dave LaDuke, a Canadian, came and whooped his ass in bare knuckle boxing.
		I think there's more we could do prison-wise to not make it what prison does to people.
		I think you could probably get more intelligent with what you said using the metaverse or whatever, maybe plant medicine, something like that.
		You just can't force people to do plant medicine, at least morally.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Administrate psychedelics to prisoners, you mean?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Ayahuasca.
		You know, how many people have these life-changing experiences under right guidance?
		Under the wrong guidance, it could be the worst thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if we start programming prisoners?
		What if, you know, we get to this point where such bad things happen in our society, we just say, you know what, it is better that we neural link or, you know, program the brain Instead of sending them to prison, we, like you were mentioning with child predators, we wire their brain in a way so that they cannot act on certain impulses or whatever, you know what I mean?
		Like, turn off the aggression, turn off attraction.
		Don't they already chemically castrate some people?
		Do they do that?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Could be wrong about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that was a movie?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Not in every... I think I've heard of that in countries.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I know that I heard that recently, people in Ukraine saying, like, if we capture Russians, we're going to castrate them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's like a threat of... And that's in war as well, not prison.
		Do they do this?
		Because it's maybe just some fictional idea where a sex offender gets, you know, pills so that they can't... But it's child predators.
		Yeah, is that... I think so.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Let me look it up.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		But I think that's interesting.
		Because, like, think about, like, a lot of people say, well, prison, like, people don't commit some crimes... Some people don't commit crimes for the threat of what might happen.
		So, like, imagine the threat of a Neuralink in your brain where all those urges go away.
		And it's not up to you anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if, I mean, man, Neuralink is some scary stuff, man.
		Because I don't think we even understand how terrifying it can be.
		It's not going to be wired.
		It's going to be wireless.
		Why would you need a wired cable?
		No, it's going to Wi-Fi, connect to your brain, and then someone's going to hack your brain and make you experience some crazy stuff and then what happens if someone hacks your
		brain and then you're you're feeling like you're being attacked by ninjas and you're
		really just beating the crap out of strangers you know the lack of
unidentified		control is just probably the most horrifying thing yes I think social media
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		is like the early adoption of that the way people can be twisted just by
unidentified		media well I was even thinking with like metaverse stuff like we've seen
		especially with the Gen Z and you know my generation that's grown up with social media
		just like are all like our slew of mental health issues and the way that we are
		desensitized to basically everything and the way that we function is so
		drastically different I mean you look at I did a business program at Berkeley before I graduated and we had this whole class on like corporate psychology and it was all of these HR departments at huge orgs
		Prepping for Gen Z because they're like, you're so sensitive.
		You are, you know, we have to basically rework our entire structure to prep for this generation that has been, you know, royally screwed by social media.
		So it's like if that is just what has happened with, you know, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok, like what the hell is going to happen?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The reason I asked you earlier how you felt about it was because I think what will end up happening The Metaverse will not be popular at first.
		Some people will get it for necessity because it'll be easier to work when you're using the Metaverse and it'll probably start with a headset.
		Eventually they'll make some kind of simple EEG interface.
		Eventually some people will opt to get some kind of like wireless implant.
		When the young people are entering the workforce, it's going to be normal.
		People are going to do it.
		It's not going to be an issue of whether you think it's weird or creepy.
		It's going to be like, oh, but you know, everyone does it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What I wonder is how much diet plays a role, because you were saying before the show that your keto, or you've been keto for a while, and it helped clean up the mind.
		I found that cleansing the gut biome, and I wonder It's hard to measure how much of it is these microplastics or estrogen in the water.
		Have you studied this stuff, Ben?
		I know you look into this stuff from time to time.
		Is it quantifiable how much diet has impacted the youth in addition to social media?
		Because I, for a long time, just thought it's got to be social media.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		It has to be.
		It's such a nuanced question because look at our topsoil and now look at our microbiomes.
		The microbiome of the earth is eroding.
		The amount of supplementation you need to have the microbiome naturally that our ancestors had is going to cost you a lot of money.
		You can't do it on low or minimum wage.
		So that's just the microbiome.
		And then you're adding on top of it the PCBs, the microplastics, whatever else is in there.
		I'm hearing a lot about graphene and stuff like that, even in water supplies.
		So there's things that we can account for, things that we can't account for.
		And then there's sedentary lifestyle, which is huge.
		So, like, there was this guy, Steven Jepsen, 80 years old, NeverLeaveThePlayground.com, and he was taking people over the age of 65, and, um, because past 65, if you break your hip, your mortality rate goes through the roof.
		He was just doing things like two buckets in front of them, bare feet, picking up objects like marbles and tacks with your toes and dropping it into the other bucket.
		That would, like, work on the talus and up here, and it would actually, they would notice that it was halting neurodegenerative disorders like or diseases like Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, stuff like that.
		And then like making it trickier, like you have to stand up and do it.
		Stuff like that is important for the brain.
		It turns neurology back on.
		It promotes neurogenesis and neuroplasticity.
		And that's just what we can quantify.
		So like, it's a whole new playing field because the like everything from the soil to the way we sit all day long.
unidentified		And as you were saying, like a very sedentary lifestyle and We've gotten to the point where we don't need to get up anymore.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		And the metaverse is going to exacerbate that.
		So it's really it's those who want to engage with health and decide that I'm not going to wait for somebody else to do it for me.
		I need to do it for myself.
unidentified		And that's huge, especially with like the pharmaceutical conversation, where it's like, I mean, you can look at how many kids in the last 20-25 years have suddenly been diagnosed with ADD, ADHD, or any other mental health thing.
		And so you just throw any drug on top of them, rather than addressing what is your lifestyle?
		What are you eating?
		Are you even going outside?
		How much time are you spending online?
		It's like, sure, here, take these meds.
		That kind of thing.
		We're just royally screwing up our bodies when they're very natural.
		And this isn't like some hippie holistic whatever.
		It's like, no, we have... It's very new that we have just been, you know, throwing these things on our brains.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's new.
		Literally, the technology, the pills, the chemicals didn't exist, depending on which medicine, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago.
		Hormones were isolated, I think, at the beginning of the 1900s, and estrogen was in the 60s.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		High fructose corn syrup, aspartame in the early 80s, like that stuff's relatively new too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sucralose, all this weird stuff we're doing.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		The fact that you have to say, this food is organic, over here, like we're gonna label it as organic is strange, because now look at the ratio of organic to non-organic.
		in stores.
		Like the fact that you have to label it like that means that everything else is not and it probably has things in that that will affect you.
		Neurotransmitters all the way down to the hormones.
		So like it's a lot and you were just talking about like well you said ADHD but like autism.
unidentified		Yeah.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		We laugh at simple approaches to these things and we applaud pharmaceutical, profit-based ones, whereas if you speak to somebody with autism in a prosodic voice, meaning kind of lilting, poetic, up and down, it halts in its tracks the symptoms of autism almost completely.
		And this was Stephen Porges' polyvagal theory.
		Just the way you speak to them is different.
		They stop staring at your mouth and they start staring at your eyes.
		Symptoms go away.
		And that's just one of many things and we don't get into that conversation because just let the pharmaceutical companies take care of that.
		That's the narrative.
unidentified		It's the same with schizophrenia and that sort of thing.
		We have a very good family friend of ours who runs a fantastic non-profit and he is a schizophrenic but he is completely Controlled his voices.
		I think he also has OCD.
		I'm pretty sure he's bipolar as well.
		Multiple personality disorder.
		That kind of thing.
		He had a whole slew of trauma when he was younger.
		Was in jail many, many, many times.
		Completely turned it around.
		Is now fully in control of his voices.
		Runs two businesses and his non-profit.
		And is totally, like, carnivore.
		But it's all based on lifestyle.
		And he's totally off meds.
		And it is wild to see how those very simple... I mean, you have to be very, you know...
		committed to those lifestyle choices, but the power that you have as an individual to make those changes to not be,
		you know, at the beck and call of a, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was a really intense conversation, you guys.
		I just about so much.
		Let's tone it down a little bit and talk about how the Russian state TV has said the Ukraine invasion has already
		escalated into World War 3.
		Cool.
		Viewers were told to recognize that Russia is now fighting against NATO infrastructure, if not NATO itself.
		Okay, I don't... I'm honestly really tired about Ukraine, World War 3, blah blah blah.
		I was working on my main segment for my TimCast channel.
		And originally, I was like, I guess we'll talk about this because, you know, the West is supplying weapons to the Ukrainians.
		They did sink the Russian flagship, the Moskva, and now they're saying it's World War III because Western forces are basically supplying Ukrainians.
		And then I was like, I'm gonna talk about Elon Musk because I'm just kind of sick of talking about this.
		And the bigger issue here, I don't think, is the day-to-day play-by-play of the war and the stupid points being made by pundits, but the fourth turning.
		So I'm going to use that to launch back to, you know, I think maybe the first time we had you on, Ben, we were talking about the fourth turning, and how we didn't know what it was going to be, maybe war with China, and now it looks like it's going to be war with Russia.
		Brett, are you familiar with what the fourth turning is?
unidentified		No, not at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to give us the elevator pitch, Ben?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I will, and first I'd like to say that you wanted to tone it down into World War III.
		I just wanted to make sure the audience also understands that, yeah.
		So Neil Howe and William Strauss wrote a book back, published in 1997, I think they researched it for 10 years, and it's called The Fourth Turning.
		And in 97, when this book came out, it's laying out like sometime around, well basically there are seasons, and it takes about 80 to 90 years.
		So every 80 to 90 years, there seems to be a crisis period.
		So you go back, it was World War II, Great Depression.
		Back before that, it was Civil War.
		Back before that, Revolutionary War.
		You could even trace it back before that in England with the Glorious Revolution, and a little bit further back.
		But basically, it's this idea that after a crisis period, there's a high, and then there's an awakening, which would be the 60s, 70s, that kind of culture.
		And then there's an unraveling, which is, like, I always get into the music that shows you what the culture is, like the Nirvana, Soundgarden, this, like, it's okay not to pretend like everything's great, girls, girls, girls.
		No, we're going to talk about, like, something is coming apart.
		So anyway, they said by 2005, give or take three years, there's going to be an inciting incident.
		And that inciting incident will likely be economic, and it will steamroll into many other things.
		They mentioned Bill Gates and vaccine agendas in one sentence.
		They said the possibility for a pandemic.
		They said the possibility for urban gangs and rural militias at each other's throats.
		I think BLM and Proud Boys and that kind of stuff.
		All the way to weapons of mass destruction, or the thought of weapons of mass destruction, a plane being hijacked by terrorists, and then it all potentially comes back on the country itself as a false flag attack, and I'm just like, 97, like all, most of these things come to pass.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the gist is, aside from their, you know, the predictions they put out, which we're seeing to a certain degree, it's that the fourth turning is the fourth season, the fourth generation, or 20 year period, where some great catastrophe happens. And so we're supposed
		to be in that right now. And the culmination is what it ends 2028, but it should be culminating
		2026, like the peak, the climax, the crescendo, which is the 250 year birthday of the US.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Who's that person who said, I forget what his name is, but he says, empires only last 250 years. That's
		his life expectancy. And And in every fourth turning, the most advanced weapons of war will be used.
		So the last one you see, obviously, Nagasaki, Hiroshima.
		This time around, we were talking last time, like, what do you think it would be?
		You think it would be bigger bombs?
		Or more death and destruction?
		And you said something that I thought was very on point, which was like the mind.
		It's psychological warfare and what we're talking about now.
		And then dovetailing into the metaverse, I think, you know, it's that and also this technology that potentially even frequency-wise can modulate hormones.
		I mean, I think it's already being used, and I would say that there's a lot of people who say that, you know, fourth turning is only like 75 to 80% correct, and I'm like, they wrote it in 97.
		If they were 50% correct, that's incredible.
unidentified		Right.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		So is it— And, hold on, Joe Biden, remember, you did that thing where he was talking about the New World Order?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		He says in that every three to four generations there's this big— I forget the exact words that he uses.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		First, he said something funny.
		I was in a, what did he say, a high security meeting?
		Military guy told me this and it's like, Joe, please don't leak clearance information.
		But what he was saying was that a high ranking military officer told him that effectively the Strassau generational theory was correct, or at least alluded to this idea.
		Joe Biden says 60 million people died or whatever.
		And so he says there's going to be a new world order.
		And he's referring to the liberal world order and what they're saying is it's changing now with this coming conflict and there's going to be a new one and we have to lead it.
		So it sounds like even Joe Biden thinks things are going to escalate, but let me revise my previous position and entertain a possibility here.
		In the fourth turning, the most powerful weapons are used, and we talked about this.
		Maybe it's social media, the psychological manipulation and control of the population.
		If you can get a country to worship you without firing a single bullet, of course you would.
		It's cheaper, it's faster, it's easier, it's safer, right?
		It's more efficient.
		You save resources.
		You don't take out power plants you might need in the future.
		But now we're seeing in Russia, Zelensky, just, he keeps screaming bloody murder.
		He's warning now that Russia will use nuclear weapons.
		I gotta be honest, when he came out and was like, oh no, the nuclear power plant, and the International Nuclear Committee, or whatever this group was, was like, oh, everything's fine.
		They weren't going after the reactors.
		I'm like, this guy, I get it, he's desperate for help.
		Ukraine is being beaten down, Russia is firing missiles, all that stuff.
		But then when he comes out and says they're going to use nukes, I go, oh, really?
		And then I see on Russian TV, they're like, NATO is supplying weapons to Ukrainians and they sank our flagship.
		If the Russians believe the sinking of their Black Sea flagship was NATO and not Ukraine, which they probably do, because let's be real, Ukraine is said to be one of the only countries or the only country to become poorer since the fall of the Soviet Union.
		They have the capability to sink a Russian flagship?
		Russia denies it at first, they claim credit.
		If Russia really does believe that NATO is supplying forces, NATO is attacking them, why wouldn't Russia say, nukes?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hitler, that's why he declared war on the United States, because they were running weapons to Britain before the, when Britain was at war with Germany, before the United States and Germany ever gone to war.
		Think about, Hitler was a genocidal maniac.
		Putin doesn't seem like it.
		He just seems like he wants the territory.
		So I don't think he's gonna go to World War.
		I don't think he's gonna declare war on NATO.
		But I mean, if they keep blowing up Russian ships with NATO weapons, what choice does Russia have at that point?
		I mean, you could always surrender.
		They could always surrender.
		Or call a white peace and just end it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if Putin was like, you know, I don't want the world to end, so I quit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they just stop.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's happened many times in the past.
		If you fight a war to a stalemate and both sides decide it's called a white peace, it's over.
		There's no victory terms.
		No one wins.
		No one loses.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		You brought up Hitler.
		Have you heard of Tim Snyder?
		He writes about Ukraine and Hitler's Eastern Front more than Hitler's Western Front.
		And he's fully convinced that, and I think he's written seven books on it, that Ukraine was Hitler's eastern aim and maybe the whole aim.
		The whole colonization that was happening at that time, they were a little behind, potentially World War I. I'm not as advanced as Tim Snyder was.
		But he said that his eyes were fixed on Ukraine.
		And so that's an interesting tidbit of history there in Ukraine.
		And also, I don't want to side rail it, but this is a book by Yuri Shilov, Ancient History of Arata Ukraine, 20,000 BC to 1,000 CE.
		So it goes through a lot of history.
		The ancient history of Ukraine is incredible, and a lot of the spots where there are these burial mounds with like 63 caves underneath, And petroglyphs that seem to be proto-Sumerian.
		So prior to Gobekli Tepe, the earliest civilization where agriculture comes from, seems to be right in this area.
		And I mean, there's something really interesting about like the ancient, ancient history of Ukraine.
		that also where the symbol of the swastika and some even say the yin-yang symbol may have
		originated there that the the Russians, the Belarusians, the Slavs, the Aryans have an origin
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		primarily in Ukraine. So some kind of sacred land that it's like a land bridge that's for sure.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's flat, and it connects Asia and Europe.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		A lot of their most sacred spots were all along the Dnipro River, and also there's Kortitsa Island, which is in the Dnipro, and Tibetan monks claim their origin to be there, in Ukraine, and supposedly even have documentation to prove it.
		All in this book, but the thing is, is Yuri Shailov, an Anatolian coefficient, leading archaeologist and sumerologist, you can't find anything in English except this book.
		And I've tried to get in touch with him, I've tried to get in touch with Tim and Heather Lee Hooker that have translated some of the work.
		Nowhere to be found.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Black Sea port makes it such an amazing piece of land to control strategically.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You can get into basically the oceans and you can get all over the continent.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Just a quick thing on the Black Sea.
		As I was researching a lot of this, I find Putin's face everywhere on all these ancient sites.
		He goes in this submersible.
		Check out Putin in a submersible in the Black Sea, going down to the bottom of the Black Sea to find an ancient ship.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		And there's... you'll see some of the images where... Oh yeah!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What is happening?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know if he wants to... What if Vladimir Putin was actually just like Nick Cage in National Treasure?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're trying to frame him because he's going to uncover the secrets of Europe?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I did not want this power.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I must free them.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		All the way out to the Ural Mountains, all these ancient sites that apparently belonged to the same core civilization prior to the Sumerians.
		Putin was everywhere.
		I found pictures everywhere visiting these ancient sites.
		So I don't know what it means.
		I'm just throwing it out there because it's food for thought.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, look, Hitler believed in a lot of occult crazy stuff, too.
		And Putin could be motivated by weird stuff.
		No idea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
		The Israelis, I mean, that's a holy land.
		It's all about that area.
		And maybe not all about it, but a big part of it is they wanted to be in the area where Jesus was.
		So a lot of times, I mean, it's culturally, there's an importance to people about being in a specific area.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I definitely think World War III is an interesting topic, but it is Friday, so maybe we should actually tone things down.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		World War 4!
unidentified		The next one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, this one will be a bit more chill and we'll have a good Friday night.
		Fox News reports Warner Brothers removes dialogue from Fantastic Beasts The Secrets of Dumbledore in China.
		The move comes after the studio received a request to remove lines referencing Dumbledore's gay relationship.
		My understanding is that that's like the main plot of the movie, but Brett, you saw it, so... Saw it last night, yeah.
		So, spoiler alerts, I guess.
unidentified		The secret is that Dumbledore is gay, which really wasn't... Yeah, watch out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
		I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
		The movie is called The Secrets of Dumbledore, and the secret is that he's gay?
unidentified		Basically.
		But that secret was already spoiled years ago, because J.K.
		Rowling was kind of... When was that?
		Maybe three years ago?
		Yeah.
		She was like, oh yeah, he's gay, and a couple of the other characters, you know, are non-binary, whatever.
		Still everybody hates her regardless.
		But yeah, I think here's the thing.
		I love Harry Potter.
		The movie was mediocre.
		It was subpar and there were like three kind of gay points throughout it.
		Like it started off with some and there were some like innuendos in like the middle part and then at the end like you see Dumbledore and Grindelwald kind of like have their moment of like, who will I love now?
		No, they're just like they're fighting but because they are connected Because... I forget what happened in the first one, but they were like, blood is connected because they were lovers or something like that.
		They technically can't, like, destroy each other.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that's crazy.
		Yeah.
		Because, like, in Harry Potter, there's, like... How is it that no one who ever once loved another person ever fought until now?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, you'd have to imagine that would come up quite a bit.
		You know, it's like, that's my axe.
		I can't fight her because you know.
unidentified		It reminded me of the same thing when Voldemort and Harry are fighting in the Wands.
		Like, like Combustible.
		Yeah, if you use that kind of thing, it was that story.
		It was a similar vibe.
		I don't know exactly what lines they removed, removed obviously,
		because I didn't watch the Chinese version.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But- Doesn't that make like the movie not work
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		if they remove that from the movie?
unidentified		I feel like, I don't know what the other secret would be.
		It was like, I don't, like, what would then, what would the whole plot be?
		It was just kind of like taking down Grindelwald, but there really was nothing going on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They add one scene at the end where after the movie ends, they're like, but wait, what was the secret Dumbledore?
		And then he pulls up his underwear and it's got roses.
		He's like, I'm wearing rose underwear.
		And they're like, oh, that's the secret!
unidentified		Love it!
unidentified		I guess the other, there was another, because Dumbledore's brother is in it, so there is another Dumbledore, and he kind of has like a storyline where there is a secret that's not gay, so I technically think if you remove that, there is another secret Dumbledore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they meant, they were referring to the non-main character Dumbledore.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The ancillary character Dumbledore in the title of the film.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		One of the things you mentioned that really bugs me is, you know, I think Star Wars did it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They ripped off the Star Wars Episode IV, the first Star Wars ever made, with the, what was it, Episode VII?
unidentified		789?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was VII.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think they just re-did the story, but in a different form.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a shot-for-shot remake, basically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Force Awakens is a new hope.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did it feel like they did that with Harry Potter?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was it different enough?
unidentified		It was!
		It was different enough it was not as good.
		The magic was fantastic, though.
		I mean, it's interesting going back and, like, watching the original movies, and it's like, I remember growing up being like, oh, this is so epic, and it's like, oh, it's kind of campy now.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		That's what I was wondering, like, did that secret make it to, like, oh, you kind of broke the fourth wall, this is about, this is too much about this world, not enough about that world.
unidentified		Yeah, you could definitely tell, one thing that I learned was that this, I think it was I'm pretty sure people can correct me if I'm wrong.
		This was the first Harry Potter film that was produced by Hollywood rather than British filmmakers.
		Really?
		And I don't know.
		I mean, you could tell.
		There was something about it that I was just like, it didn't feel right.
		It didn't feel like it really sat in the universe.
		Maybe that was it, but it was... Kind of like the last Matrix.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if they just... So J.K.
		Rowling's been doing these screenplays.
		The books she wrote were fantastic.
		I love the Harry Potter series.
		Seems like these screenplays are just the worst trash I've ever seen in terrible movies.
unidentified		Is she writing the screenplays?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure she wrote the screenplays.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It wouldn't be funny if they just, like, they announced the new series and it's effectively like Star Wars, a shot-for-shot remake of the Sorcerer's Stone or whatever, but at the end it's like the secret isn't the Sorcerer's Stone, it's just like some woke trash about the character was actually a white supremacist!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the new Lord of the Rings movie on, I think it's on Amazon?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a series, right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a series.
		And I saw a screenshot that showed like 170,000 down votes and like 10,000 up votes or something.
		And all these people comment on it.
		The video's on YouTube.
		And it's a quote from J.R.R.
		Tolkien that says, evil can never create anything new.
		It can only twist and destroy what's already been created.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
		The book, The Master Switch, goes into what Hollywood has been doing lately.
		You notice that almost everything's a remake?
		It's this algorithm that's saying, we know how to predict how continually making Spider-Man, continually making Batman and Wolverine and all that stuff, we know how to predict that.
		And I think that's also going to dovetail into these like, did you guys see what was that Ready Player One?
		No.
		Okay.
		Well, there was that racing game where there's Godzilla and I think there's also King Kong.
		They're going to immortalize these like archetypal characters in these games to live forever.
		So they become like almost like these fictitious gods and goddesses from the movies.
		And, um, I would just want to say one thing, like Voldemort, you mentioned.
		The two other names that are in Russian, similar to that, is Vladimir and Voldemir.
		And so I keep hearing that relation between Vladimir and Voldemort.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So that was anti-Russian propaganda?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		J.K.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Rowling, what did you do?
unidentified		The new Superman is gay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like the son of Superman, but he's a bi, I think.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		They were talking about doing that with James Bond, I think.
unidentified		No, they were going to do a non-binary.
unidentified		The producer was like, yeah, they were like, oh, well, we're not ruling out that Bond could be a non-binary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I legit would love to make short films that, you know, in no way disparage anybody, but just make the point where it's like, we take James Bond, we do an action scene, and then in the end, the bad guy goes, James!
		Are you gay? And he goes, yes. And that's the end of it. It's like, you know, and I don't say that to this is not a
		critique of the LGBTQ community. It's a critique of Hollywood, just
		like to predict how they would play these movies out, how they
		would do character development, instead of being like, here's
		what I like. I like it when there's character development.
		And you you understand the character or you relate to a certain emotion. What I don't like is when they're just
		like, Dumbledore's gay. It's like, okay, look, you know, if
		Dumbledore as part of the plot was in love with a guy, I'd be
		like, Oh, okay, like, show me the motivation, help me understand it. If
		If the secret of the movie is literally that Dumbledore likes men, and they've been hammering this point, I'm just like, guys, you didn't make a movie, you made, just make a commercial where it ends with Dumbledore saying he's gay.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		A social point rather than good writing.
unidentified		I was gonna say, so from the, like, the back side of it, because I was an actor for 10 years, and then while I was in college, my whole plan had been to, like, then go into production and be a producer, and that's what I wanted to do.
		So I was working at, I was working at an Academy Award-winning production company.
		It was an indie company, and what I loved about it was that it was, they only produced, like, deeply, like, character-driven narratives, like, brilliant stories.
		And during BLM, I was working with them around COVID as well, Everything swapped, and instead of- I was on, like, the development team, so my- part of my job was reading every single script submission that we would get and breaking it down, and it switched from, Brett, tell us about the character motivations and what makes these characters tick, what do we learn from it, what is the audience grasping at the end, like, the things that I think are important, to, do we have a Native American story?
		We don't have this!
		I mean, we scrapped, like, 70% of the projects that we had agreed to fund and do because they did not tick off enough of the boxes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did ownership change?
unidentified		It was just like, we're not going to produce it.
		So it was just like, went back to the screenwriters.
		Like, we can't do it.
		And then my job became not, let's like, seek out these fantastic new writers, you know, read whatever comes in.
		It was like, you need to actively go find things that we can acquire that are like a trans, you know, female Native American story so that we can be the social justice.
		I mean, it truly got so separated.
		From what I think is the most beautiful part of entertainment, why I love entertainment, why I love, you know, movies and storytelling, it was truly just, you know, let's check a political box.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was it like the ownership of the, when I asked about the ownership of the company that you worked at, did they change?
unidentified		Oh no, no.
		Was it different people?
		Nope.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They just started acting differently?
unidentified		Yeah.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Social engineering.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what I was thinking is, is it possible that, you know, maybe in the past 10 or 15 years, a species of small slugs descended on Earth and crawled into people's ears and started to attach themselves and take over their minds and bodies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that one way it may have happened?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what are those little space bears called?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yerks.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Water bears.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys ever read Animorphs?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When I was a kid.
		I think they're called Yerks.
		Little brain slugs take over your brain.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This kind of came up with Ben Shapiro.
		He was on the show a couple days ago.
		We did an afternoon show that's gonna be on TimCast.com, I think on Sunday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll put it on YouTube.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, cool.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And we were talking about just basically facts and how can you convince, how come sometimes you just can't convince people of things.
		And I think when someone's really agitated, like when someone's really emotionally calm, facts speak volumes.
		It's easy to pay attention and change your mind and, you know, change your thoughts.
		When you're agitated and crazy, almost nothing can make you stabilize.
		Like no matter what comes up, it doesn't matter because you're freaking out.
		And if like this Wi-Fi is freaking, if all this, this, this energy that we're pouring through the air is like causing people to go nuts.
		Haywire, I don't know the word.
		And so they're not able to stay cool when things like, you were saying social engineering, when things like BLM, and it may even have contributed to the rise of these social movements, but I think that's more like a CCP long war game, but that it's just overly impacting people because of the environment.
unidentified		And that's why it's when people say, oh, we just need to, like, how do you convince people of, you know, how do you red pill them, whatever, it's like, just speak the truth.
		It's like, you can't just do that.
		Like, we can, you know, talk about facts all day long, but if you are not meeting people on their own turf, if you're not, you know, doing what Daily Wire does and creating culture, what TimCast does, all of this, if you are not, you know, communicating with them in a way that is relatable and tangible and engaging and, you know, is taking into account emotions, especially with the younger generations, where we are All hell is breaking loose at all times.
		Like, you cannot just convince people with facts alone.
		It has to be.
		It's not possible.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When you were growing up, did it feel like all hell was breaking loose when you were younger, too?
unidentified		Not at all, but I was in a very... I don't know, not contained environment, but I just didn't... I didn't go to public school.
		I was homeschooled for my entire life.
		Yeah, that's great.
		Um, I went to public school for three years.
		I did kindergarten, first grade, maybe second grade, and then I did my freshman year of high school, and I was like, this place is awful, and I left.
		So as a result, I was not in the midst of all of that.
		I saw it when I got to college and while I was working in Hollywood, but I think I was so, you know, focused on my own internal whatever that it just didn't even phase me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to go back to your point you said about, you know, facts and convincing people.
		I actually think that facts typically play a small role.
		It's almost always emotion.
		So you want to make someone feel something.
		When I was doing, when I worked in fundraising for nonprofits, it's all emotion.
		If you go to someone and you'd say, you know, hi, I'd like to give you some facts about this catastrophe we're facing.
		Did you know that every day we do X, Y, and Z?
		And this is where they're going to be like, yeah, okay, thanks.
		Have a nice day.
		No, you've gotta, they say the first thing is create a sense of urgency.
		Ah, that's right, you have to convince them something is imperiled now.
		You can't just tell them the truth, you have to create it.
		Create.
		They would say create a sense of urgency.
		And you have to make them personally invested in it.
		You have to make them, there's several ways you can do it.
		There's things like, if we're gonna talk about a faraway land, we have to make you to blame.
		Because why would you care about a faraway land?
		Oh, because it's your fault.
		If we're going to talk about an issue that does affect you, then you're the victim here, and you've got to help fight back.
		Like, we got to hold these people accountable.
		There's always a way to emotionally trigger someone, either through a demand for justice or through guilt.
		There's an emotion you're trying to target to make them take a certain action.
		I hated that industry.
unidentified		It's just- That's what I was doing before this.
		This is what I was doing this summer, was doing copywriting and, you know.
		What is it called?
		I worked for an organization that did it, but where you're writing, you know, the pages, yep, and fundraising letters and all of that stuff, like there is basically a blueprint that you follow to get boomers to donate money to you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These blueprints are typically, they're formulaic, they're typically trash.
		But the formula's right, they just, what they do is they know the formula.
		There's actually a step-by-step process.
		So these companies will give you a sheet, and it'll give you five boxes, and it'll explain what each box needs to do, and then you write in those boxes, you know, how would you convey the idea.
		So it says like, one, introduction.
		Two, sense of urgency.
		Three, problem.
		Four, solution.
		Five, pitch.
		And then you're like, you know, they say, follow this formula, write it out.
		A lot of companies will pre-write these things, hoping that if they hire 100 people, give them the script, 20 of them make it, the rest get fired a week later.
		And so, you know, I always thought those were trash because people don't, like, you'll see them on the street, like, hi, how are you doing?
		I'm so-and-so working with such-and-such.
		We have a huge problem.
		Blah blah blah.
		It's all boring and formulaic.
		If you know how to read people, how they move, how they act, then this job becomes insanely
		easy but it is almost always an emotional argument.
		You're either trying to convince them that you're cool and right and they should be on
		your side, trying to convince them that they should be guilty for being at fault for contributing
		to this, or that someone is screwing them over.
		You're never just saying, do you care about the environment?
		Yes.
		What's the most concerning thing to you?
		One of the problems we're fighting is deforestation.
		Are you concerned about the removal of trees in large numbers?
		People will be like, I'm sorry, I don't have time for this, and they'll leave.
		But if you say something like, when you go and, you know, do X, Y, or Z, you are destroying every step of the way, I know you don't mean to do it.
		None of us do.
		But don't you think that you should, you know, help clean it up a little bit?
		Of course you should.
		I know you're a good person.
		Right.
		You don't, you're not the kind of person who's gonna make a mess at someone's house and leave it there, would you?
		Of course not.
		Okay, credit card, please.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wonder, and Ben, again, I ask you because you're one of my favorite people on earth.
		No, I'm just kidding.
		You're very intelligent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just kidding!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't play favorites.
		I'm talking about the past.
		Is there like some historiological, you know, reason that we're so tuned into emotion?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think we're hardwired for fact.
		We're hardwired for story.
		Look at what we've done since time immemorial.
		Sat around, told stories.
		You could be like, I'm going to tell you the facts of my day.
		I hunted this thing and I hunted that thing.
		But it always ended with the shaman or the chief or somebody wrapping it into a mythological story.
		And there's a mythos that basically captures every generation, every civilization.
		There's some kind of narrative, like an overarching narrative.
		One big one from the Bible is that there will be a Savior and be on the lookout for that Savior.
		And I think that's, we are hardwired for narrative.
		And the thing about what's happening in the world today, I'll just say this, you don't have to get people, like, if I wanted to engage your, like, emotions to get you to do something in the world and then to do that to large groups of people, Destabilizing people's sense of equilibrium first, which is basic training.
		They did that with me.
		You get the people into a state of stress.
		It destabilizes their default mode network.
		It almost puts them into a psychedelic, suggestible-like state.
		And then what seems to be the context, things that I'm not making you do, but I'm kind of filling in the blanks of what's happening contextually.
		We'll create a worldview where like, oh shit, because of everything you just said, I realized what I have to do.
		And that's setting up the set and setting, destabilizing you, and suggesting and planting seeds, not being overt and on the nose.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's just, going off what you said, this is what I thought of.
		Let me tell you about the hunt I went on.
		So I went out into the woods.
		I had my rifle with me.
		There were some issues.
		We saw the buck.
		I lined it up.
		We got it.
		It was great.
		Big guy.
		Let's try another version.
		So there I was.
		I'm walking through this mud.
		I see the beast.
		Massive.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dim the lights.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I get my rifle ready.
		I'm jammed.
		It notices me.
		I take the shot.
		We got it.
		We go over there, this thing was magnificent, beautiful, the biggest you've ever seen.
		Which would people prefer to hear?
		You're driving emotion, you're trying to create a sense of what's happening.
		So, storytelling.
		I think about these, we play D&D or Magic the Gathering or whatever and you've got these games based on goblins.
		And I'm like, you know why there are stories about goblins?
		Because some guy went to go sell beans at the market.
		And while he's walking through the woods, he comes across some ugly dude who's yelling about something or other.
		And he's like, everybody's always coming here and messing things up.
		This is my road.
		I've been working on it.
		It's like, get out of here, dude.
		And he walks away.
		When he goes back home, he doesn't say some guy yelled at me.
		He goes, so I'm walking through the woods.
unidentified		And a vile creature emerged with a crooked nose and pointed ears.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he snarls.
		And I'm like, back beast!
		And I draw my blade.
		And so people tell these stories, someone writes it down and draws pictures
		and they're like, wow.
		And then we imagine these vicious monsters and these giant, you know, there I was fighting the dragon.
		And it's like a small lizard.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, Homo florensis, that hominid, I think those are maybe where the fantasy goblins
		come from, those little small humans.
		And they were, I think, they historically would eat human children, like they would steal them.
unidentified		They found some new ones a couple of years ago.
		They would steal children?
		Whoa, yeah, this is what I've heard.
		They found new...
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Mythological stories of small people like the Menehune in Hawaii and also like many of the islands that apparently built all the structures before the regular stature people would get there.
		They're stories of little people and giants.
		Everywhere.
		Native Americans have a lot of stories.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think they're called the giants.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Right, but like cannibalistic giants, Native Americans from Pennsylvania all the way down to Tennessee, actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Say that there's cannibalistic giants?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Giants, yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, are they weird large humans that are kind of naked and can all be killed by slicing the nape of their neck?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		No, but go on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you know what I was referencing when you left?
		Oh, it's Attack on Titan.
		Yeah, but you left and I was like, are you familiar?
		All the guys in the chat are gonna be like, but I guess not, so guys, calm down.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I also think you have a good voice for story.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		You should do some voiceover like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, I'm Dr. Fauci in Freedom Tunes.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But now that Fauci's out of the news cycle, I'm out of work, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think this is a great opportunity for you to start storytelling again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I asked Seamus if he would let me voice Nancy Pelosi on his show, and I don't think he wants to.
unidentified		But she talks like this, like her mouth is falling from her face.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Donald Trump... You know, I definitely go over the top with it on purpose because I don't like her.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so maybe we are in the psychological world.
		I think it's a storytelling era.
		You're an actor.
		I was an actor.
		Ben, I mean, you're a performer.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I went through acting classes mainly to learn how to write.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Tim, creator, performer.
unidentified		Yeah, but I was just gonna say, growing up as an actor, I would get a lot of crap Especially from, like, family members who are like, you're too smart to be, you know, being in entertainment, doing whatever.
		Like, well, everything that we're saying that we are, you know, that humanity is inherently, you know, narrative-based.
		I mean, everything we learn from stories.
		It's why, I mean, we spend however many hours of our week, you know,
		consuming movies and television shows.
		Everything that we learn is subconsciously, you know, coming from
		the stories that we are watching.
		And it's so important.
		And so it always disappointed me when people were going, well, why are you doing that?
		It's like, well, I feel like I could be, this is the most important work that I
		could be doing if I'm, you know, leveraging my craft, basically, in a way that is
		meaningful and that I think is aligned with my values, there's nothing better
		because that's the way that people learn.
		That's the way that you change minds.
		That's why it's like I don't not want to give up on Hollywood, but not want to give up on entertainment and the power that it holds.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think what Ian was trying to say is that when I tell you this next story, instead of saying Joe Biden mocked for shaking hands with thin air after speech, I should go, so there he was.
		Biden turned to his right in his mind, the hallucination of a strong man reaching out to shake his hand.
		Biden reached But there was nothing.
unidentified		But the best part of this is Stars and Stripes is on top of all of that happening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The band playing at its greatest.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So Joe Biden claims that society puts the smartest and the best in power.
		I don't understand.
		This is just derangement.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, they hated Donald Trump.
		And they were willing to take the craziest, laziest out of his mindiest.
		So this is what we get.
		I don't think Joe Biden will be able to run in 2024.
unidentified		Absolutely not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Ben was saying that they're going to strap him to a gurney, but I'm like, come on.
		Yeah, I guess.
		But even that's not going to work.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he'll run and then try and make somebody else look good.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		You know what his slogan would be?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Tune in on a shovel of pressure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or next Nelresson.
		Yeah, or that.
		And Batacav here.
		Here's a new one.
		Remember when he said the United States can be summed up in one word?
		And he said, I've survived for many, many years.
		Or something like that.
unidentified		My favorite is just, we're back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're back.
unidentified		We're back.
unidentified		That's the only thing you can actually say coherently is, we're back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he can say, come on, man.
unidentified		That's it, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		It's gonna get real.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's good at saying, Putin caused inflation.
unidentified		Or go get him.
unidentified		That was the end of his State of the Union.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		His catchphrase is, it's not my fault, it's Putin's fault.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's not my fault.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Period, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He like slips on a banana peel.
unidentified		Oh, Putin!
		Did you guys see that he got shat on by a bird?
		Yes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and everybody was like, oh, he's gonna blame... Tim made a video earlier, I think, analyzing it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What'd you come up with?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, Snope says he wasn't pooped on, it was actually corn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or a corn... I said it was a corn by-product.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it was.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		A literal corn pop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was standing next to a big pile of corn at an ethanol plant, where they take corn and turn it into ethanol.
		And so they said, it clearly was corn, and when they show it in slow motion, you can see it hits him, and it does break apart, like, bits, and not goop.
		However, here's the issue.
		The New York Post said it was bird poop.
		Snopes and many other outlets said it was corn.
		And I'm like, no one actually knows.
		None of you can prove it.
		The White House claims it was corn.
		You don't know that.
		So here's what I say.
		The splatter?
		On his lapel.
		The corn retains.
		It looks like if it was corn, and it might be, it's in a viscous matter of some sort because if powdered corn ball hit you, the whole thing would break apart.
		If there was a wet ball with corn in it, it would hit you, and then corn bits would splatter down, but it would retain its splatter shape because there's a viscous material holding it together.
		I say it's possible that there was a bird in there that ate a bunch of the corn, and then pooped it out on him, and it was in its poop.
		Or, the simple answer is, why are fact-checkers claiming they know what it is when they don't?
		By all means, say, we don't know if it was bird poop, I'm fine with that.
		Something fell on him, sure.
		But then they're like, fact-check, Biden wasn't pooped on.
		I'm like, You didn't fact check, that's your opinion.
unidentified		Yeah, because you could like zoom in on the photo and it's like it doesn't look like typical bird poop.
		It's not like white.
		I mean it does, now that you said the corn, I hadn't seen that.
		It does kind of look more like that.
		I mean I got pooped on here the other day.
		Straight on my eyebrow.
		That's not good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A bird?
unidentified		It does not look like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They called it a corn by-product because they couldn't even say it was corn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A corn by-product.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was like partially digested corn.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I imagine birds can't digest it fully or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or they ate too much, like that giant mound, a bird could have just eaten until it got sick and barfed on them.
unidentified		Or, or, maybe it was a mother bird carrying food around to bring back to the babies in the nest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I had a moment, I was walking up to the front door of the Daily Wire building, and as I'm walking, I'm about five feet from the wall and the door, and I hear a...
		like a splatter and I look and I see a little white splotch and I was like oh that was close
		and I look up and there was a little bird butt right over the edge it was just it was just
		really awesome I could see like there's a little bird standing there and his butt hanging over
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm like he just took a dump what animals have you guys been crapped on I'll go first if you want
unidentified		Well, Bird, last week, well no, it was like two weeks ago, I did a hit on Ben's show and I was walking back and it went right there and I was like, what?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I took the bird, I took the snake.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The snake was interesting because it was like this white stuff just came out of the bottom of it on me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of neat.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Oh, uh, human babies.
unidentified		So I get pooped on often.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		And rabbits.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Rabbits.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Which actually isn't... I mean, they're relentless shitters, but I mean, like, it's just these little dry fertilizer balls.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They also eat their own poop.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do.
unidentified		I thought you were going to say their own babies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They don't really eat their own poop.
		What they're eating is... When the rabbits eat plant matter, it has to go through their system more than once.
		So sometimes poop comes out, and sometimes it looks like poop, but it's actually just partially digested plant matter.
		They turn around and eat it again.
		People gotta understand, rabbits are not pets.
		It's crazy to me that people... Well, they freak me out, too.
unidentified		The white ones with the red eyes?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, albino?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Are they considered albino?
unidentified		I don't know, they're just weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're delicate.
		They have delicate systems.
		You can't really bathe them.
		They're not great pets.
		People get them for their kids.
unidentified		They chew everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But they're high-maintenance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Get them a guinea pig.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, these rabbits attack our feet.
		They're not smart, you know?
		I mean, they're fun, actually, but it'll be dark, and I'm walking through the house, and they'll just run straight for my feet, not realizing, like, I could crush you, dude, on accident.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What do they think it is?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not that you know.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		But they're super playful.
		Like, if I run away, they'll run after me, you know?
		And my kids love just running across the house.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you get them fixed?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		No, we just have two boys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		But they still hump each other like crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		It's funny to watch.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I had some rabbits and, you know, we understood, you know, they're warning, good rabbit, you know, dealers or pet shops will explain to you, like, how you take care of the rabbits.
		So when I was in Miami, we actually had a whole room with just two rabbits in it.
		It wasn't that big of a room.
		But it was like, it was a decently sized room.
		We just, the rabbits had the room to themselves.
		They'd poop everywhere and we'd feed them and then we'd clean and stuff.
		But they started getting into it.
		Cause it was a boy and a girl.
		And so it didn't really work out cause you know how rabbits are.
		And the girl, when she didn't want it, she would jump like eight feet in the air.
		Cause we put up a big barrier.
		So the room was like a sunroom.
		It was like, It was a room, but the door was just always open.
		So we put a big thing in front of it, and she would just straight over it.
		And one day, I go in there and she's gone.
		We find her upstairs hiding, because the dude, Rabbit, was like, you know, he was oppressing her.
unidentified		Wow.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Good for her.
		Nice way of saying it.
		Would I...
		What I like about it is like there's a lot of fertilizer and I've gotten seriously into the importance of topsoil and just the microbes in the soil and there's like farmers around Tennessee down in Summertown that are like within six years gonna have like several feet of topsoil on their farm like really doing it incredibly so but they have like Guineas, water buffalo, different cows, like tons of different animals, and they're doing it right.
		So that's why I don't mind seeing the bunny crap everywhere.
		I just go around sweep it up.
		Bunny crap.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know what this Biden getting pooped on thing makes me think of?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Bernie Sanders when the bird landed on his podium.
unidentified		Oh yeah, and it was like a magical moment, people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then here's the other magical moment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so we have, you guys probably know it, Chicken City.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
unidentified		And those things poop everywhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what I love about them is that they're smart enough not to drink poop water, but they're not smart enough not to poop in their water.
		So it's like, you hand them water, they'll drink it, they'll turn around, just take a dump right in it, and look at it and go like, I ain't drinking that!
		It's like, well you did it, dude!
		But, uh, when you go into the chicken coop, I always tell people, because when people come over, they'll be like, oh, can I come check them out?
		I'll be, yeah, but your feet are gonna be covered, caked, in just chicken crap.
		And they're like, oh, you wash them off afterwards so you can just not go in there.
		But you know, chickens, they poop.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it safe enough to put plastic bags on your feet?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I was just thinking about those painter ones.
unidentified		Or just go with it.
		Just be one.
		When I go home to my family's farm, it's like I know for a fact that it's like I'm not coming out unscathed.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It must be good for your biome.
		Was it Joey Salatin, I think is his name?
		Joel Salatin, he's a farmer.
		He's all about getting in there with the pig feces and how it enhances your biome and your immune system.
unidentified		He'd be a great guest.
		I think I'm healthier because I was playing in the dirt as a kid.
		Oh, I am too.
		Yeah, for sure.
		Because I wasn't a Purell kid.
		Purell kid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pigs are scary.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		It actually does help with allergies.
		Early exposure helps with allergies.
		You just gotta be careful with the parasite cycles.
		But actually having a diversity of animals, they'll eat each other's crap
		and break the parasite cycles as well.
		What?
unidentified		Weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's weird.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Yep, if you have them roaming around the same ground, they'll break the parasite cycles.
		And also keeping quail is really incredible because they don't make a ton of noise.
		Their eggs are really dense, you know, nutrient dense.
		And yeah, they don't make much noise.
		So you can be in kind of like an urban environment and you won't have that noise all the time.
unidentified		I think I need some quails.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chickens are noisy.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got Roberto, and then we got Roberto Jr., and a kid, and they just yell non-stop.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The ladies are cool.
unidentified		The dudes are loud.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the ladies are actually worse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, the roosters are loud, but the girls just complain all day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're not really complaining.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They complain to each other.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're actually really happy, but they go around and they go like, bark, bark, bark, bark.
		They're gossiping.
		Yeah!
		So it's one thing to hear a cock-a-doodle-do once in a while, or the crowing.
		It's another thing when for like 30 minutes you're hearing, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Are they laying an egg when they do that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, typically, it's probably more than one chicken, and they're doing the egg song.
		What is that?
		They lay an egg, and then they sing.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
		Interesting.
		Have you guys ever had pigs?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, I would love to.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Have you?
unidentified		Well, so my mother's birthday was in February, and her birthday present for me was a pet pig.
		Not a pet pig, but it's out there, but yeah.
		What?
		Teacup pig?
		No, she's gonna be a full-size.
		Her name's Nora.
		But I got her.
		She was like two months old.
		I was here already.
		I had her delivered to my mom, had it all set up, and I don't know how big she is now.
		Her name's Nora.
		That animal I mean so loud you if she does not want to be touched and she's super sweet and she like comes when you call her she's like a dog but if you touch her in a weird way I mean it's like all hell I mean the loudest thing on the farm by like a long shot and she has all those birds and everything but truly Let's go to Super Chats!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you have not already, Super Chat!
		And send us your questions.
		Also, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show if you really do want to help out with that grassroots marketing.
		We're already bigger than CNN+, so alright, mission accomplished, I guess.
		But share the show anyway and become a member at TimCast.com.
		We're already bigger than CNN+, but join anyway.
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		Yeah, Fox Nation!
		Yeah, we'll beat them!
		All right.
		All right, send us your superchats.
		Let's see what you guys got.
		All right.
		WootDoo4U says, currently driving up from Georgia to see you guys tomorrow.
		You're a hero to me, Tim.
		I really appreciate it.
		I think the current plan is that we're going to be at Redneck Riviera, downtown Nashville from 1.30 to 2.30.
		I think we'll all be there.
		Short stop, yeah.
		Short stop.
		Yeah, so I think a good hour is enough to get a handful of songs in for everybody.
		I might play two.
		We'll see what happens.
		And then we got a hard stop to get out of there by 2.30.
		We got to be in the car and be on the road because I got to make it back to West Virginia to get back to work.
		All right, Colin, your buddy, says we're writing stories for the chickens in Chicken City.
		Roberto is the mayor of Chicken City after being a Weathervane model and having an affair with Margaret Hatcher, mayor of 2024.
		And Roberto Jr.
		is his illegitimate son who's come to usurp his role.
unidentified		Scandal.
unidentified		Yup.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're not my father.
		In reality, though, you know, Roberto Jr.
		is starting to impose himself on Roberto's ladies.
		And Roberto's not having it.
		The craziest thing is that, you guys, chickens do not have the same genetics as us.
		So they inbreed.
		They do.
		It's called line breeding.
		You're not supposed to do it too much, but it happens.
		And they don't care.
		They do not have familial relationships.
		So like, Roberto sees his daughter, and Roberto Jr.
		sees his mom, and they're just like, don't care.
		That's how it goes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dinosaurs do that too, I guess, then?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Chickens are dinosaurs.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I've always wondered how dinosaurs actually do it.
		Those huge tails.
		How do they mount one another?
		It's just weird.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Very aggressively, I would imagine.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I don't spend a lot of time trying to figure that out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Clef the Misfit says, Hey Tim, you said you're a Twitter shareholder too.
		Why don't you reach out to other shareholders and launch a class action lawsuit since Twitter violated their fiduciary duty?
		I have 22 shares and I bought them after Elon Musk bought because I was like, this is a good investment.
		I mean, Elon Musk will be a great leader for the company.
		That's fantastic.
		So after I heard, I was like, all right, I'll go on Twitter and see what's up.
		And I bought some, but, um, I may have had one before and I think I just bought them.
		Now it's like if Elon pulls out of Twitter because of this shady dealing, I'm gonna end up losing a bunch of money.
		I'll be kind of pissed.
		But I'm not doing this for any kind of lawsuit or anything.
		I have a brokerage account or whatever with like a thousand bucks in it.
		And I was like, oh yeah, Twitter, I guess.
		Why not?
		I wasn't really thinking.
		I don't want to be involved in any of that stuff.
		If I was like a legitimate big investor, then definitely.
		Because I think they're screwing over the shareholders.
		No doubt.
		Because they're nuts.
		Maybe everybody should buy in.
		Alright, Daniel K says, Your honest coverage of Florida has been much appreciated.
		Tampa, a Democrat stronghold in Florida, has a green beret running for Congress, Jay Collins.
		It's a long shot flipping Tampa red, but I feel like Collins has a real chance at it.
		It would be great to see him on your show.
		We will take a look.
		Alright, let's grab some Super Chats as the raced cars keep going.
		Double A says, Fem Shapiro doesn't look the same without her leg up on the chair.
unidentified		Sorry guys.
unidentified		Sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's how I sit too, that's awesome.
unidentified		It's uncomfortable, yeah.
		It's the knee.
		I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh wow, what's this?
		Brad Pits Junk says, Congrats to Styx on the birth of his daughter earlier this week.
		Hope you guys can have him on next time he's stateside.
		Wow, yes, congratulations.
		Styx is fantastic.
		He's a good dude.
		Always been a big fan of Six Hexenhammer.
		Steven White says, Tim and crew, the trending movies on Netflix are war movies.
		Saving Private Ryan, the imaginary game.
		It's almost like they're trying to push World War III.
		What did I get recommended?
		I've been watching DC's Legends of Tomorrow.
		And then season six, I just stopped watching it.
		That show just like, man, they jumped the shark.
unidentified		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It was fun.
		It's like a DC superhero show.
		But now it's like, turns out one guy's an alien and now there's a bunch of aliens.
		And I'm just like, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
unidentified		It's just stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just dumb.
		Uncle Ulysses says, Ian, you're the man.
		Keep being you.
		Wanted to shout out a local podcast about the supernatural and conspiratorial.
		Coin Doc Pro, conspiracy indoctrination program.
		Give it a shot.
		Oh, is it, is it Cohen?
		Coin?
		Give it a shot.
		See if you like it.
unidentified		Cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's grab some more.
		Kingfopanda says, found Brett on TikTok.
		This is my first ever super chat.
		I've been subbed for so long.
		It told me I couldn't chat because I subbed while watching child content.
		Whoa, yeah.
		Had to unsubscribe to chat, spin the UFO.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so if you have under 13 content up in one window, YouTube won't let you subscribe to over 18 shows?
unidentified		Weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we're gonna have to make sure Chicken City is for adult only.
		Because we have short chicken gags that we're making, and we were here with Seamus.
		And so we recorded one that's really funny and it's basically it's not meant for it's like it's like maybe like six to nine years old is probably the where it would be be if it was like a kid's show but it's the kind of jokes where you know an adult would like it too but then we as we were like ad-libbing we did one really dark one Where it was, you know, Roberto, he's got a daughter, you know, chickens don't really have, you know, they don't care.
		And so it's about line breeding, which is when fathers and daughters and sons and mothers breed.
		And I put it up on Instagram, but for some reason it wouldn't, it was shadow banned.
		Like nobody could see it.
		And I was like, well, it is a particularly dark, like Roberto was drunk and he was like, where are you?
		And I'm like, we don't show anything.
		It was just like line breeding.
		And it's like a card pops up and explains how this happens.
		They wouldn't allow it.
		And so I'm like, maybe it shouldn't be the darkest of humor at all and maybe we should just stick to the gag humor.
		The gag humor joke we have is just Roberto screaming and running around flipping out like kids would like.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was like Adult Swim 2007.
		Yeah.
		Absolutely incredible.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, I thought it was good.
		Also, the first few, like... Like, no words.
		He's drunk.
unidentified		Drunk mumbling from a chicken.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he's drinking mealworm IPA.
		Yeah, Kent, our animator, Kent Welling, made that.
		I put it up on Instagram, but they wouldn't let me.
		And I was like, maybe it's because we say bitch in it.
		So I'll censor that.
		So now he says, you...
		You know, so I don't know, but maybe I'm like, maybe I, maybe we should just stick to the stuff that's like more family friendly.
		The one that we, it was funny because I was talking to Kent and I was like, Hey, here's the, the, the sound that like the voiceover stuff we recorded.
		Don't make that one.
		Like, I think we are just, you know, being vulgar.
		And I'm like, make the one where it's just like the kids show where they're like counting how many eggs they have.
		And then Roberto screams and runs around going nuts.
		And I'm like, it's just silly kid stuff.
		And he's like, you got it.
		And then he messages me, sends the clip, and he says, it has been made.
		And I'm like, this one looks a little shorter than it should be, and I played it, and I was just laughing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's gotta be a network to run that on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Instagram wouldn't let it go, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just fun chicken facts.
unidentified		Maybe Fox.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Rumble.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think it's too hot for Fox.
unidentified		Rumble.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It pays for it to run as an advertisement.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the one.
unidentified		That's it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		After 10pm only.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's really good.
unidentified		Alright, let's uh...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Adrian Contreras says, I'm not going to smash the like button, Tim, but I will tickle it ever so gently.
		I'm still pushing for Glenn Jacobs on the show too.
		Can we make that happen?
		We'll take a look.
		C Santos says, my fiance is Gen Z and she can't stand the content that Brett makes.
		She thinks it's over critical and bullying.
		I've been trying to get her to understand the culture war that's happening, but no luck so far.
		I think that's the thing about the challenge of the culture war is that If someone walks up to you and slaps you in the face, and then you are like, guys, I'm really angry.
		This guy's been slapping me in the face.
		Let me explain to you.
		People are going to be like, why are you being so mean to that guy?
		I don't even know who that guy is.
		They'll assume that your criticism of legitimate things is mean or wrong.
		And it's like, bro, I'm not the person who's throwing paint in someone's face.
		They're the ones throwing paint at us.
unidentified		It's funny to hear that, though, because I do get criticism for being too
		empathetic to people, though, for people on the right who are like, I did an
		episode about Emma Watson and I, you know, or there was something I was doing
		with Demi Lovato, who was like, I still really like her music.
		Like, I think she's fantastic.
		Like that kind of thing.
		People are like, how dare you say nice things about her?
		And it's like, we're still human beings.
		You can still criticize people and the ridiculous things that they do and find
		humor in it and still, like, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say bully.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I've been watching your stuff.
		And like, I mean, honestly, like it's you definitely have your style, but I think
		it's from from certain perspectives, like you have people saying that you're being
		too empathetic and other people saying you're bullying.
unidentified		It's well, if you're on the Internet, you can't please everybody.
unidentified		So I'm kind of like, OK.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		With comments, this is like, Joe Rogan would tell people, don't read the comments, but you actually have a show called The Comment Section, and I love reading the comments, just don't take it personally, any of it, the good stuff or the bad stuff.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's hard not to take the good stuff personally, when they're like, you're so awesome, I love when you did this thing, and you're like, yeah, me too, but don't take it personally, because then you start to take the negative stuff personally.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's Terry.
		Teramoto Junior says, Brett Cooper, thanks for selling me on homeschooling on your Instagram for when I have kids.
		Already hated public schools before it was cool to hate, uh, cool to hate them.
		So it wasn't difficult, but your stuff on homeschooling is what made, what made me decide that was the solution.
unidentified		Amazing.
unidentified		That actually makes me very happy.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
unidentified		Homeschooling.
		I love it.
		For the win.
		Legit.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Love it.
unidentified		So good.
unidentified		Wouldn't have changed a thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Daniella Sanchez says, Hey guys, I want to audition for the Daily Wire's upcoming productions as an actor.
		How can we, how can one find out how to audition?
		If I have to relocate to Nashville, I will do it.
		Have an awesome day guys.
		Well, uh, Brett, you run casting for Daily Wire, right?
unidentified		Oh yeah, that's my, that's my other job.
		I actually have, I get a lot of people, we have a lot of people that DM me asking for jobs are like, how do you find, you know, careers and that kind of thing.
		I actually have no idea how the casting process goes for the films, but I will say.
		If you're trying to work at DailyWire, you can go to our career page.
		It's not too difficult to find.
		It is funny when I have people being like, where do I find it?
		I was like, you can type in DailyWire careers.
		If you really are motivated to come work for us, I promise you, you will find a way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ken Pittsburgh says, we are already in the metaverse.
		When we die, the carny will take off your VR glasses, you'll ask how long you were in there, and he'll point to a sign that says $5 for 5 minutes.
		Chicken city!
unidentified		Yeah!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like Rick and Morty, when they go to Blitz and Chits.
		Have you guys seen that one?
		Have you seen it?
		He's like, let's go play Roy.
		And you sit down, and you put this headset on, and then you just like, you go limp.
		And then you live an entire life as some guy named Roy.
		And they're like, they're watching Morty play.
		And then after he comes out, he's like, where am I?
		I'm Morty.
		And Rick is like, you went back to the carpet store?
		Jeez, let me play.
		And then everyone's watching him, and they're like, whoa!
		He's taking this guy off the grid!
		He doesn't have a social security number!
unidentified		Yeah, that was funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's taking him off the grid.
unidentified		Roy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if Elon Musk doesn't get in, it's doomed anyway.
		If Elon Musk gets the company, he'll fix it.
		JK says, the other day I tweeted at Elon Musk to buy all of Twitter and then immediately
		shut it down.
		I have not heard back from him yet, but I'll keep you all posted.
		I mean, if Elon Musk doesn't get in, it's doomed anyway.
		If Elon Musk gets the company, he'll fix it.
		So you know.
		3D Pyromaniac says, Brett should go on Mug Club and play newest gender pronouns now.
unidentified		What is that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that Crowder?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's Crowder.
unidentified		Love it.
		I'll be at Blaze next week.
		Cool.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's in Austin, right?
unidentified		Uh, Dallas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dallas.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was there.
		How did I forget?
		How did I get that wrong?
		I don't know.
		All right.
		Enslave said, Tim, it would be awesome if you checked out music.
		My new album is called Defund the Politicians.
		Search enslaved ones on here or any streaming service.
		Hey man, always interested in people making culture and succeeding with it.
		So.
		Zoidberg says, I constantly promote free the code, but that's no guarantee that the open source code is the same code that's running on the live system.
		Interesting.
		Yeah.
		ShinobiStrongside, Ian, I have- I have- I have that time dilations almost every night.
		It was so bad, I had to go on disability.
		Living whole lives in one night.
		Eventually I learned how to manage it.
		Time is definitely illusion.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, interesting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd love to find out how you managed it too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That was very cool.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if that's like a, uh, something that a lot of people have experienced.
		Like if it's actually got a name.
		Cause that's, that'd be a wild disorder to have.
		Like each night living a full life.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Jeez.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		That'd be pretty wild.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Check this out.
		Dragon Lady says, deep space, nine episode, hard time.
		O'Brien lives a 20 year prison sentence that's implanted in his brain in a few hours.
		Causes a bunch of psychological problems afterward.
		Great episode.
		Crazy.
		Very cool.
		Yeah, what if all this is right now, our lives are actually a metaverse?
		We're all three years old, and the point is to give you a full life of experience and wisdom, so you come out, you're three, and you're like, whoa.
		And they're like, we wanted to make sure that before you started, you knew what you were doing, so.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I will eat less sugar as a teenager.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See?
		See?
		You're gonna come out, you're gonna be three, and you're gonna be like, I'm alive!
		What am I?
		And they're going to be like, what did you learn?
unidentified		Like, what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What did you learn?
		I'm not going to eat sugar when I'm a teenager.
		You pass.
unidentified		Keep going.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone else is like, I want donuts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Back in.
unidentified		No, no, no.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's a good turn.
unidentified		You can eat sugar.
unidentified		No redemption.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, put them back in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You got to go around again.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		King Deem says, or King to me, says, Tim, we already have the Metaverse for years.
		It's called VRChat.
		The videos about journalists living in the Metaverse for days are not original at all.
		There's literally dozens of videos of the same kind.
		What Facebook did is not relevant.
		No, I understand.
		So when we talk about Metaverse, it's typically, you know, in reference to the coming brain implants where they stick the metal into your neck and then you actually are in the Metaverse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Through a neural net.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		See, I think... I feel like most guys would say yes instantly.
		I wanna fight a dragon, bro.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've been seeing videos of people going into the Metaverse.
		They'll be like, I was in the Metaverse for 30 days, and there's like a YouTube video about it.
		And one guy was saying that a lot of people in the Metaverse just look into mirrors and stare at themselves.
		You'll see groups of people just staring at themselves in a mirror.
		In the Metaverse, like at their character.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever see that thing where they put VR headsets on people?
		A man and a woman.
		They stood in front of each other, but their VR headsets were each other's camera, so the man, they would like, both of you look down slowly, and then they would be like, now feel your body, and they would feel their body the same way, but the dude was seeing the woman's body, and the woman was seeing the dude's body, so it's like, when you touch your hands, you feel like you're in the other person's body.
unidentified		Oh, it's so weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Creepy.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yikes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And then they have like, touch your leg.
		And so you feel like, because you're seeing in the in the lenses, the other body.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		That's mirror neurons going, you know, that that's, that's what allows when when you see somebody crying or somebody fall and scrape their knee or something like that, your mirror neurons empathize to the point where you can feel it.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think the illness can get like that sometimes too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In skateboarding, whenever you watch slam videos, you can feel the slam.
		It's crazy.
		I'll watch someone hit the ground and I feel the jolt in my body.
		I'm like, oh man.
		Don't like that.
		Crazy, right?
		Yeah.
		They say that if you don't experience that, sociopaths don't experience that phenomenon.
		So it's how they test for it.
		They'll show a video of someone getting hurt in some way, and if you don't have a response, they think something's there.
		Yeah, yeah, that's why I can't stand how just I'm like I turn on Instagram and too many videos are slams I'm like dude if I see a slam coming I just I'm getting out because I'm gonna you don't you don't feel it, but you feel it You know I mean you get that feeling All right Let's grab some more super chats.
		What do we got?
		Dstuff says, have you guys heard of Vince Dow and the American Populist Union?
		He's someone I've been a fan of for a little while.
		You should have him on the show.
		Keep up the good work.
		I do not know who that is.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm gonna write that down.
unidentified		He's a good guy.
		I know him from Prairie View.
		He's a really sweet kid.
		Black kid, I guess.
		He's a little younger than me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		PartyHardJay says, Twitter moderation has gotten so bad that I got suspended today for asking you if Redneck Riviera would be open to the public tomorrow.
		It was labeled hateful conduct and my appeal was denied.
		Email you guys screenshots.
		Here's the plan.
		Redneck Riviera exists.
		It is John Rich's venue.
		We have no formal plan with the venue other than John Rich owns it.
		And he said, let's go jam.
		And I said, okay.
		So if it's open, it's open.
		If it's not, I have no idea what's going on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But 1.30, that's the plan.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		1.30 PM.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yup.
		Yeah, Ian's gonna headline.
		It's all, we're gonna put banners up for him.
		He'll play some songs, I guess.
		You're gonna be there, Ben?
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		I'll play something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Carter will be there.
		He's, you know, from TimCast.
		So, I think everyone will be able to get in as much as they want to play.
		I'll probably only play a couple songs.
		I might even have to leave early, just because we gotta get on the road.
		But, actually, no, probably not.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You going?
unidentified		Oh, maybe I'll come.
		Oh, wow.
		I'll do a jig.
		Do you play music?
		No, I sing, but I don't play any instruments.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		At the very least, if you do come, I think, I'm like, John, this place is going to be so packed.
		Because people are going to drive up.
		People are going to head out.
		I mean, it's not, it's downtown Nashville.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Which is already on a Saturday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, but John Rich is announcing on the show he is going to be there.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So like, yo, John Richard, big and rich.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I'm like, I'm like, don't look at me.
		I'm like, you're telling people you're doing a show.
		People are going to show up.
		It's going to be crazy.
		And he's like, yeah, yeah, of course.
		It's always packed.
		And I'm like, all right, man, I think we're in need.
		Like the car pulled around back.
		Cause we got it.
		We got a hard stop.
		We got to get on the road.
		We've got missions to accomplish.
		All right, Ben says, great video this morning, Tim.
		Quote, I wake up every day and lay a brick.
		Great message, bad wording.
unidentified		Very bad.
unidentified		Yeah, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, prickling.
		I'm totally fine with it.
		In fact, if it made people laugh, all the better.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's memorable.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Every day I wake up, I lay a brick.
		What is that?
		Like pooping?
		I poop a brick?
		That's also good for you.
		Works for me.
		My body is a machine and it cranks out large rectangular bricks.
		And then I take and I go, this is mine.
		And I slam it onto the building that I'm making and every day shithouse.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Every day you add a brick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Every day you add a brick.
		What that means is, you know, where we are now with this crazy fifth wheel trailer in
		the Daily Wire parking lot doing shows with, you know, these guests.
		It's not like one day I woke up and I wrote down, here's how you do all this thing.
		It was like every day I was just like, I will place this brick right here on this building.
		And one day you look, you take a step back 20 feet and you're like, this thing's huge.
		Just happens one, one step at a time.
		Christina H says, Miss Cooper, I love your show.
		Happy Friday, cast.
		Have fun tomorrow.
		We will.
		We're going to be driving a lot.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Good times.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		JDCGaming says there are only 31 possible plots that have ever been created for movies.
		And I kind of feel like that's true.
		Yeah.
		Is there a villain's journey?
		Yeah.
		Is there?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		There is, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's the hero's journey, which is the famous, you know, story...
		map architecture.
		I wonder if it's a villain's journey.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I think the whole Megamind thing.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I don't want to be the bad guy anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a hero's journey.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, because he's a villain turning into a hero.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just he's still a hero.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Watchmen, the cartoon that's played throughout the movie, the guy on the pirate ship.
		Do you remember this cartoon?
		It's incredible.
		I'll tell the story, I guess.
		He's trying to get back home.
		His ship is raided by pirates and everyone is killed except for him.
		And he's on a lifeboat trying to get back to his wife and family.
		But he knows that these pirates are going to kill them.
		So he spends just weeks paddling to get there as his crew is rotting, starts to rot, and then he starts to hallucinate and they come alive and they're like, you did this to me and he's losing his mind.
		He finally gets back and he's this wild animal looking to kill these pirates and the town is crazy and in the shadows he sees one of them and he kills him and it turns out the pirate he killed was actually his wife.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh my.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He became the demon that he sought to destroy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I like Mr. Freeze better.
		You know Mr. Freeze's story?
		You're young, so I can tell you.
		You know, most comic book villains were like, I'm going to take over the world!
		But Mr. Freeze, in the Batman animated series, his wife was terminally ill.
		So he was siphoning funds from the corporation he worked at to work on research to save her life while keeping her frozen so that she wouldn't die.
		And when the boss finds out, he comes in and he's like, this is what you've been doing with my money.
		Shut it down.
		He's like, no, you'll kill Nora.
		And then he gets hit with all these chemicals, becomes Mr. Freeze, and then he becomes a villain.
		His motivation is he's trying to save his wife.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So mania, it's obsessive love.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a type of love that can twist people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just love. It's like a guy who is willing to do whatever he has to to save his wife at the expense of
		Thaleo?
		others.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Greeks have derived eight types of love. One of them is mania, and that means obsessive love.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's like eros, which is erotic love. There's pragma, which is like pragmatic love.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Paleo, brotherly love.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nah, nah, nah. It's...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Freeze, it was just romantic love.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Romantic love.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the reason he's a good villain, it's because it's love and loyalty, but selfishness.
		That he didn't care who he hurt.
		He was creating the same problem.
		The people he hurt when he was trying to save his wife are experiencing the same pain that he's experiencing, but he doesn't care.
		So it's narcissism and romantic love.
		But it was brilliant.
		I think they won an Emmy for it.
		Love it.
		Alright.
		Let's grab a couple more Super Chats as we go through.
		We got time for a couple more.
		John Smith says, haven't used Reddit since they banned the Donald.
		It was basically them outright admitting they were absolutely partisan.
		It's no longer a place to share content.
		It's a place to spread propaganda.
		Yeah, I go on Reddit all the time.
		And when I see these people be like, social media isn't biased.
		What they're just trying to do is shut up.
		You go on Reddit and it's like, there, there was two subreddits hit the top of all from me saying, I don't, I went to a diner and I didn't want to wait because they sat someone in front of me and it was like the right can't meme posted it.
		And I'm like, What does me telling a story about not waiting at a diner, which was me intentionally telling a story about me being disagreeable and kind of annoying sometimes, have to do with right-wing politics at all?
		But that's what you get when you go on Reddit.
		Rarely do you see anything that is against the establishment.
		Sometimes you'll see r slash conservative make it up there.
		But right now, it's like, Elon Musk wants to buy Twitter.
		Every comment is, oh, this is bad and wrong.
		Every story is, Elon is a goblin.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Elon's great.
		We love what he's doing.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got room for a couple more.
		Maddox says, hi, I sent an email to spin the UFO.
		Please check it out.
		Also, how can I pitch my tech company idea to take over big tech to the Daily Wire?
		Is there an email?
		I don't know if Brett has the answers to those questions.
unidentified		Oh yeah, you know me and all my powerful knowledge as the casting director.
		Yes, right.
		That's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
		TXP says, my 17-year-old daughter just told me she wished technology would go away.
		I told her about EMP.
		Well, there you go.
unidentified		Perfect.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, Zombielord says the villain's story is the Greek story of, uh, Fizith, uh, Fizith, Fizithis?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Fizithis.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fizithis?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where, or is it, uh, Fiziahsithis?
		Whatever.
		Where the main, where the main is forced to roll a boulder up a hill for it to fall to the bottom in a cycle.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think it's Sisyphus, isn't it?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, Sisyphus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, but they, but, you know, what they wrote is Physicist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Sisyphus.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was pushing up the boulder, but he couldn't.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Only to fall to the bottom of a cycle.
		One can only work for the power they can have.
		Absolutely.
		All right, we'll grab this.
		We'll grab this one here.
		Brenton Connor says, Ghost in the Shell freaks me out about Neuralink.
		Ghost in the Shell is legit.
		Good show.
		You've seen it?
		Yeah, if you're interested in metaverse stuff, just check it out.
		In the future, people have like prosthetic bodies.
		So their brain or ghost is put into a different body or they get like prosthetic eyes and all this weird stuff.
		Cool stuff.
		Ladies and gentlemen, it's Friday night in Nashville.
		We're gonna go party.
		If you haven't already, smash that like button.
		Smash it for Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Don't be afraid of technology, it's neutral.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Just use it properly.
unidentified		Go tickle it.
unidentified		Tickle the like button ever so gently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is Friday night.
		Head over to TimCast.com, become a member, support our work.
		You guys are the lifeblood of the company and we are only able to do this because of all of you who sign up.
		And enjoy our members-only content Monday through Thursday at 8 p.m., so we really do appreciate it.
		You can follow the show at Timcast IRL.
		We have reels on Instagram, so you can catch short clips throughout your day.
		You can follow me at Timcast, I guess, if you want to see weird things on Twitter and me talking nonsense.
		It's a lot of fun.
		Brett, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified		Yeah, you can go subscribe to the comment section.
		We do it every day, five days a week.
		It's a good time.
		I know.
		I go through the comment section so you don't have to.
		It's really benevolent of me, honestly.
		Wow, thank you very much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's your social media?
unidentified		I'm Brett Cooper on everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ben.
benjamin stewart ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, go to benjosephstewart.com.
		That's where you can find all my work.
		I'm doing a lot of documentaries lately and pushing the envelope of conscious media.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ian Crosland, happy to see you guys.
		This was a fantastic week in Nashville.
		Brett, thanks for having us to The Daily Wire.
		I appreciate you putting it together for us and everything as the head of production.
		But really, this has been a spectacular opportunity.
		And I'm so glad.
		Tim, thanks for having me.
		And this is just great, you guys.
		So thanks for being here with us.
		And I will see you guys next week.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this week was absolutely an adventure.
		Thank you guys, everyone, for tuning in as we mashed it up with The Daily Wire.
		That was a freaking blast.
		I really hope that we can do this again.
		It was a great time.
		Met some great people, learned some cool new stuff, and did some interesting technological things.
		So hopefully we can just go further next time.
		I'm stoked.
		Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter, Minds.com, at Sarah Patchlitz, or at SarahPatchlitz.me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, just the other day, Chicken City generated $1,495.
		So head over to YouTube.com slash Chicken City or ChickenCityLive.com.
		We are going to make gag short cartoons that are family friendly.
		I know we made a not family friendly one, but apparently I can't upload that anyway.
		And we are working on a plan for a terrestrial television

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