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Timcast IRL - Canada Threatens MILITARY Intervention Against Freedom Truckers, HONK w/Julie Kelly
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ian crossland
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julie kelly
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seamus coughlin
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tim pool
01:04:02
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lydia smith
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tim pool
Peace.
Of course, we changed the name in solidarity with our trucker friends and protesters standing up for freedom, individual liberties, and we got big news on this one.
The latest is that the Ottawa police, they want military intervention, but authorities are concerned.
They're saying that these protesters may be armed.
That's really fascinating, because last night we talked about how the right to keep and bear arms is a deterrent from government overreach.
And because of the potential for protesters being armed, the military doesn't necessarily want to come in.
But who knows?
Things are getting really, really crazy.
Trudeau, of course, last night once again smeared the protesters as all the worst things in the book, and it's all big lies.
Because the reality is, this is a worker revolt, a worker uprising.
We're seeing a couple interesting things.
There's a subreddit called Lockdown Critical Left asking why it is that this is an uprising of workers and the left opposes it.
And of course, all of these people who are actual leftists are like, yo, the left has been co-opted by corporate interests.
That's it.
And then we have a post from the Ottawa subreddit organizing a protest against the workers.
Now they claim to be the left or whatever, but I gotta tell you, they're fascists.
These are people protesting in support of government rule by decree.
Major corporations producing products that the government then mandates on people, and these people want to support that.
So, uh, yeah.
Fascists.
We're going to talk about all that.
We got CNN, man.
The president of CNN is out.
A huge scandal is erupting.
Brian Stelter's blaming Chris Cuomo for Chris Cuomo ratting out Jeff Zucker because Jeff Zucker was sleeping with the chief marketing officer who used to work for Cuomo's brother, Andrew Cuomo.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Scandal.
CNN's imploding.
All right.
We're going to talk about all that, plus some news around January 6th.
More subpoenas are coming out with the January 6th committee.
And joining us to talk about all of this is journalist Julie Kelly.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
julie kelly
Hi, I'm Julie Kelly from Naperville, as Tim from Naperville aptly fellow Chicagoan.
So I am a writer for American Greatness and greatness dot com and for the past year have been obsessed with the events of January 6th and the DOJ's abusive investigation into January 6th, the J6 committee and how they're using that for our disturbance to launch a war on terror against the political right, which is in my book.
tim pool
Four hours.
disturbance.
julie kelly
Four hours.
tim pool
Yep.
Yep.
And it has become this insane narrative among Democrats.
And I love how they say it's bipartisan because they have Liz Cheney like anyone believes
it's bipartisan.
But they're there.
It's insane what's going on.
Now they're claiming that the Republicans who signed elector slates for Trump in the
event there was a legal dispute, which has happened before.
They're claiming they were forged documents and it's insurrection.
They're trying to bar several members of Congress from running for reelection, claiming they're insurrectionists.
You know, this is crazy stuff.
julie kelly
Yes, it is.
That is a political war and intended to silence political dissent and terrorize people into not protesting the regime.
You know, the resistance, hashtag the resistance, was really cool for like four years, remember?
Everybody thought that was great.
Then all of a sudden it became, you know, insurrection.
On January 6th, so this is what they're doing and we have political prisoners in the United States and we have hundreds of defendants 730 people have been arrested so far.
They're adding new people every day and this is the DOJ's You know, they're acting as the law enforcement arm of the Democratic Party, which they have now for the past several years So nothing I'm gonna say it Civil War.
tim pool
But we'll get into detail about what that means because when you're filing lawsuits to bar politicians from re-election, it's not even politics anymore.
We're at the gates of something else.
But we'll get into all that stuff.
We got Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Seamus, Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes.
I'm a political cartoonist.
I like to make animations about current events.
We're releasing a cartoon about the Great Honkening tomorrow, so I hope you guys check Check that out and enjoy it.
I'm very glad to be here.
I think this is going to be an interesting and enlightening conversation.
tim pool
You're so serious when you, like, you know, it's like you watch Frampton.
seamus coughlin
Ladies and gentlemen.
tim pool
I'm a political cartoonist.
I make funny jokes about politics.
I do these little cartoons.
seamus coughlin
Look, I start to get wild on the show.
unidentified
All right.
seamus coughlin
It's just like, I can't come right out the gates being too crazy.
People are going to shut this off.
Thanks for easing into it.
There's only so much zaniness that a person can handle.
ian crossland
One zane at a time.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
unidentified
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
Just you wait.
ian crossland
Thinking about resistance, it makes me think about the Vietnamese and how after the Korean War in the 1950s, they realized they can't resist the American Air Force.
It's impossible.
So they had to build tunnels.
They had to think outside the box to resist.
And I see these people resisting with a hammer.
They want to walk in and stand there and Resist in the in the old-fashioned way and then now I'm seeing this political hammer come down on these people There's other ways to resist I'm interested in talking about that stuff, but we got to get these people out I mean, this is just it's the most it's one of the greatest travesties of American history and it's because we're in it I don't think people realize how dangerous it is.
tim pool
Yeah, I I hate to be you know, the negative Nancy on this one, but I I think it's going to get darker before, you know, before the dawn, but we'll get into that stuff.
So Ian's chilling.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Hit me up at iancrossland.net, but first watch the show.
lydia smith
Yes.
I am also here pushing buttons in the corner as I do.
I love doing that.
That is my job.
And I do think that this January 6th thing really kind of puts to bed the idea that Biden winning was going to bring any kind of normalcy back to the US, especially what they were doing with Rogan too.
So hopefully we get into some of that during the show.
tim pool
Not to mention, Biden's approval rating is beyond in the gutter.
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Let's read the latest update on the great honking.
The Guardian reports Ottawa police are considering military intervention to end unlawful blockade.
Authorities warned bringing in the military carried a massive risk as they believe the protesters are armed.
What's really, really fascinating about this.
Let me read this paragraph.
The Ottawa police chief, Peter Sloly, warned on Wednesday that officers did not have the
resources to remove a fleet of trucks parked by the protesters in the national capital,
adding the city was considering requesting help from Canadian armed forces.
What did we say yesterday? We said even if they wanted to, the police would not have the means to remove these trucks.
And if some of these truckers are just like, just driving my truck, what can you do about it?
The tow truck companies reportedly are refusing to get involved.
They've said, you know, various companies have reported as saying, we have agreements within the community.
We don't want to get involved in whatever this is, but the protests and the government stuff leave us out of it.
So you basically have these truckers in Ottawa, along with a bunch of other cars wailing their horns, And there's nothing the government can do to stop it.
The military won't be able to tow anybody.
The truckers are here to stay.
And it's really, really simple.
If the people of Ottawa, if the government wants it to stop, just comply.
If you just comply, you'll get your city back.
It's not hard.
It's only two weeks of honking to restore the freedoms.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I love it.
Yeah, I mean, there's just something so beautiful and satisfying about seeing the worst, most controlling group of people you've ever seen in your life not being able to force their will onto a group of people.
It's like they finally found something they couldn't get past and it's glorious.
tim pool
You know, I was thinking about, there's this video of a guy and he's yelling, I haven't been able to sleep in five days because of the honking.
And I was like, I literally don't care about you guy.
You sat back while the government steamrolled by decree all of this awful stuff that caused strife and chaos in people's lives and destroyed their businesses.
And now people are honking their horns.
The only reason this guy is yelling is because he thinks he has a right to tell them to stop.
You see, he didn't do anything to stop the government from steamrolling over people's rights.
No.
But now he's going to go to a trucker and be like, I'll yell at you?
Sorry, buddy.
You've got the workers rising up and saying no.
If you wouldn't stand up for your rights then, what do you think you're going to get accomplished?
Look, it's remarkable that you can clearly see the dynamics of the political landscape here.
The government can do it.
He won't complain.
He says, what freedoms have you even lost?
But when the people stand up and create discomfort, now he's mad.
You know what?
Go lick a boot, dude.
I don't care to hear it.
ian crossland
I'm thinking about at the end of World War II when the Americans and the British were rolling through Germany and liberating all the, I mentioned this once before on the show, all the German citizens that had just been sitting, standing by and watching it happen.
We're now getting basically conscripted out of their houses to go clean up the concentration camps and forced to look at it with their own eyes and see this is what they've done.
They weren't in a position to tell the American troops, stop honking, because it had gone that far.
We haven't gone that far yet, and hopefully we won't, but you can't sit by and comply with a tyrannical government and expect when the cavalry comes in to fix the situation that you're not going to be pulled into it.
tim pool
Well said.
seamus coughlin
Also, can you believe being like, I understand it's a little frustrating to have people honking your horns, but it's like, oh my goodness, the people who bring me all of my food and literally everything I need to survive without complaining every single day are making noise when I want to sleep one time in my entire life.
I'm so sorry that that happened to you.
It's sad.
lydia smith
I'm very sympathetic, yes.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what, man?
The honking will continue until freedom improves.
I like that.
I would be opening my window and cheering.
julie kelly
What's interesting is the ruling class now being exposed for the contempt that they have for the common man.
It used to be even Republicans here, Democrats obviously, standing for working class individuals and them collectively.
But now they can't even hide their contempt.
They can't even hide their contempt for Hillary Clinton called the deplorables and now Justin Trudeau who won't even deign to meet with these people saying he doesn't agree with them like he did the BLM protesters.
So you just have this global contempt of the ruling elite finally fully exposed for hating the people that they are supposed to protect and defend.
And I think that that that's sort of what happened, you know, on January 6th.
Same thing.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what really, really blew my mind is I was browsing Reddit about an hour or so ago, and there was a post where it said something like, oh yeah, it was in Ottawa, someone put in their window, it said, you know, Nazis F off, and there was like a swastika with a line through it.
julie kelly
Right.
tim pool
And then I saw that, and it's a top post, and I was like, jeez, they are laying on the propaganda so thick.
They're so boring.
But I looked at the comments, and the comments on Reddit's always leftists being like, the right... No, the comments were people saying like, there was one guy.
Like, this is so dumb.
Like, you know, people were saying like, look, I get the honking's annoying, but it was literally one guy with a flag, seriously.
And then someone else was like, yeah, but what about the Confederate flag?
And then all the responses were like, we watched them throw that guy out of the protest.
Propaganda's not working.
I mean, we'll get into it later, but CNN just completely imploding.
seamus coughlin
Dude, if you can't propagandize a bunch of Redditors and get them to accept the narrative, you have no hope.
There's nothing.
tim pool
There's nothing for you.
Because Reddit is such an easily astroturfed platform that I'm pretty sure, if you were to ask me based on what I know about marketing and what's going on with these social media platforms, I'd be willing to bet And we do know this is true to a certain extent.
Reddit is basically just political organizations manipulating the platform to create the perception of popular opinion.
And Republicans are really bad at it, so they don't, and the Democrats are much better at it, and Big Tech works with them and colludes with them, so you go on Reddit, man, all of the top posts are like socialists, communists, far-left, everything.
It is mind-numbing.
But when even that stuff isn't working, How do you propagandize people that you're the workers, that you're standing up for the poor people, when it's truckers?
Non-college educated, for the most part, people who are just working class jobs, who are bringing you your food, and they're the bad guys?
I don't think that narrative is going to fly.
lydia smith
So do you think it's safe to say that they believe, obviously, that the next step after propaganda is to bring in the military?
Because that's what it looks like to me.
tim pool
Remember when we were talking about Tales of the Economic Hitman or whatever that book was called?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Was that what it was called, Ian?
ian crossland
Economic Hitman, yes.
It wasn't Tales, but something like that.
tim pool
Tales was like stories or something like confessions.
Was it Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
He basically said that, and I'm going to butcher this, but it was something like, first they come to you and ask you to be on their side.
You reject them, then they come back and say, how about some money?
Then you reject them, then they kill you.
ian crossland
What they'll do is they come in, they try and bribe you to join their side.
If you say no, then they try and assassinate you.
And if they can't, then they issue a full-scale military war.
tim pool
So this seems to be like where we're at, right?
First, they try propagandizing.
It's not the exact same thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They did that.
doesn't work. Now they're trying to organize counter protests.
Yeah. And they're already talking about bringing in the military.
ian crossland
You'll see they'll probably single out an individual in the trucker convoy and then
start propagandizing him because then they're now they're going to do the ad hominem attack
tim pool
next. They did that.
Oh, they did. They did that. It didn't work. So first they smear the whole event.
Oh, they're a bunch of far-right racists.
Then we started seeing posts about like, this organizer is far-right and associated with the alt-right and blah blah blah.
Nobody cared.
It's getting bigger.
The honking grows.
The honking continues until freedom improves.
Now they're talking about military.
seamus coughlin
Well, and this is what I think happens.
They've overplayed their hand to the point where everyone who sees the propaganda knows that it's ridiculous.
And they don't get that back.
That's the wonderful part about it.
Once you overplay your hand, it's not like you get the cards back.
People are just never going to trust them when they talk about anything ever again, and it's beautiful.
This is about so much more than just truckers, right?
And everyone knows that it has been from the beginning.
They're asserting their rights as workers, and so it extends to all other people in all other fields that are necessary.
But also, they're really standing up for the ordinary person of the nation they're from, and I think other nations as well.
And they're also making it perfectly clear that the average person does not accept the narrative being put forward by the media.
julie kelly
Just wait until QAnon shows up in Canada though.
That is going to really be a game changer because that will show everyone that this is orchestrated.
No, I'm joking.
seamus coughlin
I was going to say, I was like, wait a minute, hold on.
julie kelly
You know Q?
I mean, Q shows up.
seamus coughlin
I'm going to let you talk.
I'm going to let you say what you have to say.
julie kelly
No, that'll be next.
It'll be, no, this is the Canadian Q. They've already tried, this is Russia propaganda right now.
seamus coughlin
Yes, exactly.
julie kelly
And they've had the confederate flags and they've had the, you know, then they had the, they had the informant there who, you know, they kicked him out, but pretty soon it's going to be Q. You know, it's going to be Canada Q. There'll be like Q in Canada.
tim pool
A lady on TV who was like, now because of Canada's support for Ukraine, do you think Russia could be involved?
seamus coughlin
Well, this is the thing, right?
They only have so many tricks in their bag.
They're remarkably uncreative people.
And the thing is, these tactics have kind of worked for a little while, but more and more people have been waking up to them.
And I think we're finally at the tipping point where no one believes it anymore.
tim pool
Yo, I've been looking at anti-work and work reform on Reddit for months now, and they're saying like, you know, workers of the world unite.
Where are these leftist subreddits when the workers are uniting?
seamus coughlin
Hold on, the anti-work Reddit says?
Why don't they say like, non-workers of the world unite?
tim pool
The funny thing is that anti-work initially was this radical idea that no one should work.
seamus coughlin
I don't want a job.
tim pool
It's the stupidest thing ever.
And they try and act like they're smart.
unidentified
They're like, well, I was reading a book by Marx and he explains capital.
tim pool
When in reality, they're like lazy, you know, living in their trash departments on, you know, government benefits.
And they're saying like, but I don't want to walk dogs anymore.
seamus coughlin
20 hours a week.
tim pool
And we saw that on Fox.
And it was a PR disaster for them.
But it, it, anti-work evolved into a work reform subreddit.
After the whole debacle where they did this interview on Fox and were exposed as being people who just didn't want to do any work and were kind of lazy, the work reform subreddit took off.
Now, I agree with a lot of work reform.
I think, you know, the corporate structure in a lot of ways is a lot of really bad things.
I think student loan debt has reached critical mass and the whole system is broken and needs to be totally reformed.
But why aren't these people coming out and being like, hey, look, the workers are finally rising up.
This is a really good thing.
Why don't we stand in solidarity with the working class?
Oh, because the actual working class don't believe in their far left psychosis.
They're insane policies.
seamus coughlin
They never have.
Well, I mean, I think we've we got the first taste of this after Trump was elected.
It became apparent that right leaning people tend to be more in touch with what your average working person actually wants.
And the Democratic Party doesn't really represent those people.
Now, it's as clear as it's ever been.
ian crossland
But this was not our first view of this.
In 2018, I had an opportunity to go back to Ohio and live in Ohio for a little while.
I'd been in L.A.
before that, New York, Chicago.
I'd been in these big cities.
And at first, I was living in a farm town in Ohio, and my friends were like, Trump!
unidentified
Trump!
ian crossland
And I'm like, Trump?
Why?
What's going on?
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
And and it's just it hurt.
It was like being in like some sort of acid, like a pool of acid.
It was burning me.
But I came out so much stronger because I wasn't being manipulated anymore.
I was seeing things from this other like worker's perspective that I'd been just lost.
It'd been lost to me in the big city for 15 years.
It was really incredible.
The power of the worker, man.
tim pool
I want to show you guys this subreddit post from Lockdown Critical Left.
This is amazing.
It's from two days ago.
Cool Spectre wrote, Workers are uniting in solidarity against an authoritarian government and the left is against it.
The trucker convoy is the closest thing to a working class uprising I've seen in my lifetime.
I wasn't around in the 60s.
And yet the left is somehow against it.
Isn't this exactly the kind of thing the left should be supporting?
Are there even any working class people on the left anymore?
Why do they all seem to be Zoom tech workers or unemployed?
Why is the actual working class overwhelmingly not on the left?
It's really unsettling to see actual working class unity taking direct action against fascist mandates and the left is taking the side of the fascists.
Except for those of us who have been watching for the past 10 years, it's exactly what's been happening the whole time.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Well, it's also, I mean, to add another layer here, you have the left literally after, uh, you know, two years after the, the summer of love and these protests and all of this anti-police rhetoric, they are now like begging the police to come in and crack down on a worker as well.
I guess.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Now it's a tab.
tim pool
Um, It is Canada, so to be fair, it's a different country, but you're right.
seamus coughlin
They have BLM protests in Canada too, yeah.
tim pool
And Trudeau stood with them.
I'm sorry, kneeled with them.
seamus coughlin
Kneeled with them, yeah.
So he bent the knee.
Why isn't the working class returning the favor, right?
But of course it's because BLM and these leftist groups never represented the working class in the first place.
lydia smith
Yeah, so my favorite author is Terry Pratchett, and he has the perfect quote about this.
He says, people on the side of the people, capital T, capital P, always ended up disappointed in any case.
They found that the people tended not to be grateful or appreciative or forward thinking or obedient.
The people tended to be small-minded and conservative and not very clever and were even distrustful of cleverness.
And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem.
It wasn't that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people.
And I think that's what the left is discovering.
seamus coughlin
Entirely.
tim pool
I think they've known this.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
For a long time.
It's why there was this really funny moment where in Seattle some like socialists came out and were protesting against Amazon.
And then some trade workers and like construction guys and contractors showed up in their vests and hard hats and started chanting them down.
Because they were the actual working class guys.
These intelligentsia, you know, college graduate types think they're working class.
They're quite literally not.
They're the intelligentsia.
seamus coughlin
I represent the working class.
Well, no.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
It's also funny because the left has always tried to say that they represented the working class, but then they'll take all of these wildly unpopular social positions that your average working person does not believe in at all, and then try to force it on them.
So it's like, even with situations outside of this, I'm pro-working class, except I think a working class person should lose their job for stating something in a public forum that literally every other working class person believes about transgenderism, for example.
tim pool
Yeah, like Whoopi Goldberg, you know, they suspend her.
seamus coughlin
She's a good working class woman.
lydia smith
That's right, she is.
seamus coughlin
And they come after her with this cancer culture nonsense.
tim pool
It's so obvious because it really is about money.
Here she is making a humble $96,000 per week.
Per week.
Per week.
And of course, because... Not even six figures.
Yeah, not even six figures per week.
And so she can't defend herself.
And so she gets suspended for two weeks.
unidentified
Terrible.
tim pool
Oh, heavens.
seamus coughlin
When will the workers rise up?
tim pool
But I bring that up real quick, just as a good example of what happens to Opie Goldberg when she doubles down on offensive comments.
Gina Carano, on the other hand, who didn't say anything offensive, she said, don't demonize your neighbor.
She loses her job.
ian crossland
I thought that Whoopi thing was an example of critical race theory having gone too far.
It went too far because she all of a sudden is now starting to think that if someone has the same skin color as someone else, that they're the same race.
Skin color has nothing to do with race.
Maybe it's not safe to say nothing, but if you take someone out of a place on earth and put them somewhere else within two or three generations, their skin color is going to be different.
Their kids, their grandkids are going to look way different than if you put them in like Sub-Saharan Africa.
tim pool
Let me try and help you out, Ian, by making this point.
There are Asian cultures that look very similar to Native American cultures, even though they're very different.
ian crossland
I came across the Bering Strait 13,000 years ago.
tim pool
And so it's not necessarily, like, you could be a different race or ethnicity and look very similar to others.
ian crossland
So skin color and race are not the same thing.
tim pool
But they are connected.
ian crossland
You could say that there is a correlation there.
It's really offensive and egregious that she would make that claim.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, so there was related to the way that the left views the working class.
There was this book that I read when I was 17 that really informed my view on this and it's called intellectuals by Paul Johnson and he sort of goes through the lives of many of the people who are held up as like the foundation.
Are the foundational thinkers of modern society.
And what he points out is that so often these are people who claim to love humanity in the abstract, but in their personal relationships, when they dealt with actual humans, they tended to treat them like garbage.
And I think there's a parallel here because the left tends to be much more likely to say, I want to change the entire world.
I want to reshape the entire society and change how people think about things, change the way people treat each other.
And I think conservatives are much more likely to err on the side of subsidiarity, and try to change what's around them, as opposed to going for the world as a whole, because they're more interested in actual individual people.
And so these lefties have this idea in their head of what the working class is as an abstraction, and then when they have to deal with actual working class people and their desires, they come to realize that human beings are messy, and they require that you sacrifice your own will in order to care for them, and they're not willing to do that.
tim pool
You know, I wonder if, uh, you know, Marx has some good points about capital and stuff.
And I wonder if, uh, ultimately a bad ideology, but you know, it's, it's broken clock is right twice a day.
But my point is you get these, these college graduate people that some of the, some of the highest salary earners in the country, in the world, and they're greedy and jealous and angry and purposeless.
So they feel like something is wrong.
Something is wrong with my life.
Then they read, you know, Das Kapital or whatever, and they're like, he's talking about me!
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Because I hate my life!
He's literally not talking about you.
You are the one.
Let's just be real.
The intelligentsia are the ones who get executed because they're threats to the revolution.
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah.
No, as soon as the new revolutionary sect rises to power, they end up taking out all the people that fought for the revolution in the first place because those are agitators.
tim pool
They were the ones who fomented revolution.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
You can't have those people in your system.
tim pool
Nope.
Well, we have this other post from Reddit.
It's called the counter-protest from r slash Ottawa.
unidentified
Hello everyone, my name is Mackenzie and I am not afraid.
This Saturday I will be organizing the peaceful counter-protest against the terrorists occupying our city center.
tim pool
Terrorism is defined as the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims.
People are afraid.
Our downtown workers are afraid to go to work.
The police is afraid.
The police is?
Afraid to act.
The city has denied me an official protest permit citing COVID concerns.
I am not afraid.
seamus coughlin
No, you're a fascist.
tim pool
You're literally a fascist.
seamus coughlin
Also, can I say the most boring thing in the world, but I think needs to be said here?
Where was this kind of talk during the BLM riots?
How does that not fit the definition of terrorism when buildings are being burnt down?
tim pool
I don't believe this is a real person.
I don't, I, you know, I mean, it's probably... But come on!
You know, I'm reading some of these posts on Facebook from lefties, and I'm like, dude, you don't actually believe what you're saying, right?
Like, you can't be that psychotic.
julie kelly
No, they are.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a mix.
Well, look, what really is pissing me off right now is how they're like, the school banned the book Mouse!
And I'm like, they literally didn't ban the book, they removed it from the curriculum.
Does that mean the Gulag Archipelago has been banned as well?
Oh no, they're banning anti-communist propaganda, what do we do?
No, it's just not part of the curriculum.
seamus coughlin
You know what I would say to everyone who's upset about Maus?
I think, and here's an idea, we should have curriculum transparency to ensure those right-wing fascists don't go meddling with curriculums in ways that parents aren't aware of.
ian crossland
We should have curriculum transparency.
unidentified
I just saw that there was some pushback against that.
ian crossland
So making the student's curriculum transparent to the world, is that what it is?
Or just to the parents?
seamus coughlin
To the parents and to the community, yeah.
ian crossland
To the community, meaning like it's on the internet for me to go look at?
seamus coughlin
Anyone can see.
ian crossland
I'm open to it.
seamus coughlin
Here's something I don't know.
How many books are in a curriculum?
tim pool
That's like, a curriculum is like something they want you to read throughout the year or whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It can't be that many.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's like four or five maybe?
unidentified
Really?
seamus coughlin
Just four or five?
unidentified
I don't know.
It's not too many.
seamus coughlin
I think maybe per class or something like that.
lydia smith
Yeah, per class.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Like per English class.
tim pool
So, you know, I don't want to get wrapped up in that whole mouse conversation again, but, you know, just in the context of what these people are saying.
When I see this post and it's like, I am not afraid, these people are terrorists.
It's like, dude, they're honking car horns.
Calm down.
ian crossland
Yeah, you wouldn't have to say I'm not afraid if you weren't afraid you wouldn't be saying that you're obviously afraid that's why I am not afraid No, I don't think it's I don't think it's a real person.
Do you think it's an AI?
No, no a slider that you can be like how liberal how left-wing do you want it?
unidentified
How authoritarian do you want it?
tim pool
If you put it all the way to the left it gets you fired from your job what I mean is this person is lying They're crafting a political message for political reasons.
ian crossland
Man, I can't put anything past anybody these days.
julie kelly
I was buying it.
ian crossland
Really?
tim pool
You were buying it?
ian crossland
Because you've seen stuff like this before?
julie kelly
No, no, what you were saying about the scales.
lydia smith
I think it might be an AI.
ian crossland
It took the political compass.
tim pool
No, this is well-crafted by a person, and it's probably someone who is liberal, left, whatever the Canadians call themselves.
They don't have Democrats or whatever.
And it's their version of establishment, communist elite type, authoritarian across the board.
And they were like, what can we do to push back against this worker uprising?
Let's do a popular message.
Let's post into the city subreddit and then make people think it's a popular thing
for a regular person.
A regular person who's like, honking your horns is terrorism.
Yeah, no, but when Black Lives Matter caused $2 billion in damages and killed around 30 people,
Maybe then we can call it terrorism.
And I also love to throw it to you, Julie, that January 6th, oh, the police opened the door and let people walk in the building.
Terrorism.
Yeah, they got a strong definition, don't they?
seamus coughlin
And when protesters like literally broke down the barriers in front of the White House and were setting fire to the church across the street from it, that was not an insurrection, that was not terrorism.
The President of the United States had to be hidden away in a shelter, but that was not terrorism or an attempt at an insurrection.
unidentified
Right.
julie kelly
Well, in here, it's not just Reddit posters or whack jobs who are randomly saying that this is terror.
You have our FBI director, Christopher Wray, who is designated January 6th as an act of domestic terror.
They are comparing January 6th defendants to terrorists.
And so when you have this codified by your top law enforcement official, then of course that is how it goes mainstream.
So you have Democratic lawmakers or even judges just say, well, they were terrorists.
This was a terrorist attack and these people are terrorists.
So then everybody becomes a terrorist, right?
Except for the actual terrorists, you know, the people who burned down cities and To your point, $2 billion in damages.
The FBI has arrested three times as many people related to January 6th than they have the entirety of 2020 rioting, which is insane.
And you have Chris Wray still lying about it, saying, oh, we're handling both events equally.
We can't read and we can't pay attention to actually what's happening.
tim pool
Just think about that for a couple seconds.
You have people who caused, when we say $2 billion in damages, that's the maximum the insurance companies would pay out.
It's not even the total amount.
The damages could be way higher.
When you have estimates ranging from like 26 to 32 dead in these riots, they burnt down a police station and the police were forced to flee.
For three months they were firebombing a federal courthouse.
And there's no terror declaration.
There's no law enforcement to stop that.
julie kelly
They're dismissing charges against those people.
They've already dismissed about a third of the charges related to Portland.
tim pool
Just think about that for two seconds.
And then you have, you know, the Maga Mima types who went to the Capitol and the police removed the barricades.
The police did that.
And you see one cop fanning people, they walk in.
Now there was conflict at the tunnel.
People were fighting, and we had Richie McGinnis on the show, he's a journalist who was there.
People were shoving with cops and fighting with them, yelling stuff.
But then you have people who are walking up to a door, the police open the door, and one cop can be heard saying, I don't agree with it, but I agree with your right to protest, as they all come in, walking and bumbling about, the MAGA-MIMA types, they're the terrorists.
Madison Cawthorn spoke at a rally for President Trump relatively far away, and they're claiming he was involved in the insurrection.
The media is on board, and our law enforcement apparatus is on board.
When you have these two very distinct circumstances, You need to start realizing that they're at war with you,
that they want to destroy your life.
And what I mean by they, I mean like there are elements in the FBI, not every single person,
obviously, but you look at the political landscape. There are powerful connections
between media and Democrats. And I'm not speculating. We've got the CNN story where
the woman who worked for Andrew Cuomo then went became chief marketing officer at CNN and was
hooking up with the president. And that whole scandal happens.
They're obviously colluding in big tech as well and they want to ruin your life.
They hate you.
julie kelly
And you just have the news this week that a top national news editor at the Washington Post has to recuse herself from her job from her position because she's married to the chief of staff to the FBI director Chris Wray.
So think about I mean so the incestuousness.
So you have a major newspaper who has lied about Russiagate for years and now is covering up huge stories like the Whitmer kidnapping, FBI kidnapping plot, and certainly has a huge spin on what happened.
You know, Ray Epps, that's a conspiracy theory.
This is the Washington Post.
And then you find out here is she is married, a top editor, married to the chief of staff.
ian crossland
What is her name?
julie kelly
Matea Gold.
So this was a great Paul Sperry piece, investigative piece on Real Clear Investigations, and he details the whole thing.
And this man's father is tied to the Clinton machine.
tim pool
It's a big club and you ain't in it.
julie kelly
That's for sure.
You don't want to be, right?
tim pool
George Carlin said it's the same big club they used to beat you over the head with.
ian crossland
Once they get you in, they want to keep you in.
That's why I don't want to get in.
I'd rather do it from outside.
tim pool
They're losing.
They're losing.
julie kelly
Yeah, people don't act this way if they're winning.
People act this way in power when they're losing.
tim pool
The desperation.
That's right.
Raiding James O'Keefe.
The FBI raid on James O'Keefe.
I'm just like, wow, you've got to be really desperate to pull a move like that.
julie kelly
You do.
And I mean, I think that that's one thing that our side or whoever's side needs to realize.
And I talk with this, like people are friendly Smith.
Um, when you are a political party and you're in charge, you don't act this way.
If you are winning over the masses, if you're convincing them, um, you know, even 30 years ago, if you're a Bill Clinton and you're charming and you're trying to actually bring people together, at least win office.
But this is the, this is actually the last gasp of the left, of the radical left.
They are, they're desperate.
And this is why they are calling people terrorists.
That's why they're rounding up Indiana Mimas.
You know, this is why the media is so corrupt in there.
I mean, it's all falling apart for them.
They think that they're convincing us that they're winning, but they're actually losing.
And so that's why it's going to get worse before it gets better.
tim pool
I've heard that a lot, Meemaw.
What does that mean specifically?
Like it just means like regular person or something?
julie kelly
Well, I mean, there were older women there.
One Indiana grandma, the Meemaw, who went through the re-education camp from her court-appointed radical left.
uh, attorney and, um, you know, she was a grandmother of five, but there were
elderly, older, not elderly, you know, 60 some odd year old women who were also
rated by the FBI and charged with misdemeanors.
So that's sort of the joke, but there were just average Americans and they were, it
was very offensive for those people to be in the Capitol building.
tim pool
I was thinking about this.
2023 is primary season.
Donald Trump, presidential primary season.
Donald Trump is already campaigning.
He's already got that viral video where he's like, I'm going to be the 45th and 47th president of the United States.
And so we know what that is.
Like if you were to ask me, I'd say they planned that.
Because he wanted people to know he's running.
He wants the funds, the donations, the interest, but he doesn't want to publicly announce he is.
It's very clever.
Or maybe it really was just him and some buddies were golfing and he said it, you know, because he didn't care.
But this means If Joe Biden is not going to be running for re-election, and I don't think he will be, we'll have to hear something in the next six or so months.
Because for Donald Trump to already be gearing up and he's doing his campaigns, he's got 122 million.
The Democrats need to start raising money.
If Joe Biden is going to run for re-election, he needs to start gearing up now, but he's not.
I don't think Joe Biden can win again.
People hate him.
His approval rating is in the gutter.
What was the jobs report?
Minus 300,000?
Minus?
It was supposed to be plus.
julie kelly
Didn't that happen during the lockdowns?
Wasn't that like when everything shut down, it was like that kind of figure?
tim pool
That's scary bad.
But my point is, if it is true, That Joe Biden will not be running for re-election.
I think by like June, we're going to hear an announcement of something's going to happen.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Joe Biden, Joe Biden raised $1.69 billion for his re-election or his election campaign last year.
Is that correct?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
I'm sorry, Ian, I have to correct you.
unidentified
Joe Biden and the DNC raised $1.69 billion.
tim pool
Joe Biden didn't raise the money anti-Trump.
Raised 1.96 billion dollars.
ian crossland
Okay, so he won $1.7 billion and the dude sat in his basement and didn't do interviews.
julie kelly
Does that include all the in-kind donations billions from big tech who are censoring
ian crossland
everyone and probably not that's scandalous. So what does this money go for? Trump raised $1.96
billion. He was at least out there running around doing stuff.
lydia smith
So Julie, does this strike you as anything?
Could it possibly be anything other than political warfare?
And how bad do you think it's going to get before the election?
julie kelly
With January 6th all together?
I think it's going to get worse.
tim pool
Everything around it, I mean.
lydia smith
Yeah, all of this stuff.
julie kelly
Yeah, I mean, I think it is going to get worse.
I think it's going to get worse in two ways.
They're going to ratchet this up.
You already see the January 6th committee.
They're desperate.
They know their time is running down as well, right?
Their months are numbered because they're going to lose the House.
So they're going to do whatever they can.
They're going to issue a report, probably two reports.
One is that will deal with the insurrectionist lawmakers.
They're going to try to suggest new legislation that will deal with lawmakers who act insurrection-y in the future.
But also, they're going to tie this to election integrity reform.
And so this has been the basis of January 6th since the very beginning.
To tie anyone who wanted election integrity, to tighten up the rules that happened in 2020, to that's the report.
That's the excuse of January 6th.
Well, then we need all these reforms so this never happens again.
That sort of thing.
But it's also going to get worse.
I'm sorry.
It's going to get worse because the American people are going to find out exactly what the government did.
Government actors, agencies, political actors who helped orchestrate what happened that day and execute it.
And that is going to be mind-blowing to a lot of Americans.
tim pool
The Democrats are losing so much support.
Their popularity is dropping so much.
They're not going to be able to pass any of this stuff.
They're going to try, but they're spinning their wheels.
julie kelly
But then they'll just have it out there, right?
So it'll just be out there, these reports.
It'll be like the Mueller report.
They're still talking about the Mueller report.
They want it unredacted.
It's over.
But you have insane people on the left.
You have millions of those people.
I mean, they still actually think that Trump colluded with Russia, right?
I mean, you could tell them anything.
They still think that the Covington kid disrespected the elder and he should be in prison or something.
seamus coughlin
It doesn't matter.
julie kelly
You know, it's not just the left, the political ruling class, or the media.
It's their followers.
It's millions of our countrymen who have completely lost their minds, and they would be happy not just to have the January Sixers in prison, political prison, but all of us.
I mean, this is what COVID exposed, COVID tyranny, and it's certainly what January 6th is.
You have Americans who want this to happen.
seamus coughlin
So let me ask you.
You seem to believe that it is going to come out how deeply involved this state was with January 6th.
How do you think the American people are going to respond to this?
And what do you think the government's response to their response will be?
julie kelly
That's a great question because a lot of people say, well, who cares?
You know, you're going to have half of the country who is going to believe from the beginning it was an insurrection incited by Donald Trump.
But you are still going to have Americans.
And I think this is sort of the whole Ray Epps thing.
That has sort of raised a lot of red flags for people.
Who is he?
Why hasn't he been charged?
Why won't the FBI or Merrick Garland answer who he is?
So that's raised a lot of questions, but the government's involvement was deep and it lasted for months ahead of time.
You had something called the FBI Operation Cold Snap.
Which was launched in the spring of 2020 to infiltrate militia groups who are planning these anti-lockdown rallies.
So a lot of it goes back to lockdowns.
They had informants in these militia groups.
We know that for a fact.
And they were responsible for concocting and executing, just like the Whitmer kidnapping probe.
Most of what we saw on January 6th.
Not just the government, DC Metro Police, Capitol Police, Muriel Bowser's administration.
It was a lot of independent factors, which is why they kept the Capitol intentionally insecure that day.
Because they didn't want thousands of National Guardsmen there saying, hey, why are you throwing flashbangs into the crowd?
You know, why are you shooting rubber bullets at people outside?
Why don't we go inside?
Why don't we put up the barricades?
Why don't we close the doors if you don't want them?
So that is why we didn't have them there.
tim pool
I think the propaganda's failed.
I think what we saw with Joe Biden's collapse in popularity after Afghanistan, what we saw with the ongoing Joe Rogan attempt to censor and everything, it's just not working.
And I think regular people They're just not falling for it anymore.
Especially, like, we read that post from the lockdown critical left saying, like, why isn't the left supporting the worker uprising?
The message is getting out.
They can't control it anymore.
I mean, CNN, MSNBC, their ratings are just abysmal.
People don't care.
They're not listening.
They've lost what Mika Brzezinski said.
They've lost the ability to control, to tell people what to think.
You guys remember when she said that?
She was like, you know, he thinks he's going to tell people what to think, but that's our job.
ian crossland
That's economic.
So economic hitman wargaming here.
That means that that's the first stage where they're trying to bribe.
If they think their propaganda is not working anymore, that means that their bribes have failed.
Now they're going to go to stage two, which is assassination.
So you're like, prob.
Not personality assassinations, but like, what do you call it?
Character assassinations?
Yeah, absolutely.
Imprisonment against people's will, unjudiciously with the Patriot Act, stuff like that.
We're in that stage now.
tim pool
Dude, you guys gotta understand how easy it is to carry out.
So, let me slow down, start over.
There was, they used to, governments all over the world assassinate.
I mean, it's World War I and stuff like that.
We know assassinations happen.
But when it came to popular uprisings, there was a fear that you would make a martyr.
And so, you know, if you read a lot of the history books, okay, so we have to character assassinate.
We have to make them not worthy of being heroes.
But these days, man, I mean, first of all, there's that story.
I don't know how true this is, but I remember reading some Reddit meme about the CIA's heart attack gun.
You ever hear about that?
unidentified
Oh yeah, yeah.
tim pool
It fired like a frozen, like a dart with like a frozen poison that like, when it dissolved, would just kill you and look like a heart attack or whatever.
ian crossland
They testified under oath about that, actually.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's very, very easy to assassinate and get away with it.
It's ridiculously easy.
People don't understand this.
They think we live in this world where like, oh, they wouldn't be able to do that, wouldn't be able to pull it off.
It's like, dude, Find a homeless guy, they give him a weapon, and they just send him off on his way.
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
It does raise flags, though.
Real assassinations, which is why they go with the characters.
And why there's indefinite detention against, like, where people can't even, like, speak out.
They're in solitary.
So you don't even know they're being detained.
tim pool
This is why I bring this up.
Because they've lost control of the narrative.
ian crossland
That freaks me out.
Like, what will they do next?
tim pool
Try to regain control.
ian crossland
Drone bombs over cities?
Like, that's the third stage of economic humanity.
tim pool
Yeah, but they're not going to do that against their own cities.
ian crossland
I don't think so, but you never think the government's going to do that against their own cities.
You never think that.
tim pool
Let me make my point.
They need you to work to produce things for the system which they want to control.
It's like if somebody wants to own a house, they're not going to blow it up because they can't have it.
A crazy person would, and maybe there are crazy people in government, but the idea is, how can we take control of this resource?
We don't want to destroy it.
They're willing to tolerate some loss.
But my point is, they've lost control of the narrative so, you know, maybe powerful people, and I'm not saying the grand conspiracies or anything, I'm just saying powerful people get mad and they can be dangerous.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think they have military bases all over the earth and they're afraid of losing it to China, the hegemony, to go to the power to China, so they're desperately trying to crack down on American dissent to maintain the global military autocracy.
tim pool
Do not agree.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't think they're worried about China at all.
I think they're helping China.
Maybe it's a different level of people.
tim pool
Who did we have on who talked about Joe Biden's cabinet?
lydia smith
Chris Weiser, I think.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Well, we just had him on.
Yes, he did talk about Biden and China.
But we had someone on a while ago talking about Joe Biden's cabinet has somebody who is very, very pro-China and pro-trade with China and all this stuff.
And if you look back at the Clinton administration, there's all of those ties and all those connections.
julie kelly
Yeah.
ian crossland
So, okay.
Well, I do believe that there's a global movement to unify everything under like a sociocommunist kind of corporatism.
Borg?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
A Borg-ish state.
seamus coughlin
Let's figure out the acronym for that.
ian crossland
I think that there are people that with American nationalists that are afraid of losing American control of the global military force.
I could be wrong about that.
I'm pretty sure.
I feel like they're desperate to maintain control.
seamus coughlin
I'd like to ask you one more question.
Just about, you sort of got into what you think the government's role in this is.
When people start to recognize that, how do you think they're going to respond to people recognizing it?
julie kelly
I think we're in a position now, let's say this was five years ago or maybe even ten, no one would, I think, accept that the government was capable of doing this.
That the FBI, the intelligence community, the national security state, that okay, they'll screw around with people, but they're not going to actually have this full-scale operation to shut down what happened on January 6th, and then use that to weaponize all of the tools of war against American citizens.
I do think, and I think it does play into the COVID tyranny, that people are recognizing that our government is run, not just political leaders, but the people who populate these agencies, the nameless, faceless, I mean, they're Anthony Fauci's, but there's thousands of them who are willing to do anything.
They know that they can get away with it.
They don't care about your kids.
They actually want your kids punished.
They don't care about your business.
They don't care about your future.
They will do anything to keep a hold of power and to get rid of not just threats like Donald Trump or his family, his cabinet members, but even his 75 million voters.
So I do think that people are going to be shocked when there's more information that the information already is coming out in these trials.
This is why they've kind of delayed these trials.
This is why they're keeping a lot of these men held behind bars because they don't want them telling their story.
But you can't do that forever, right?
We learned from Russiagate.
We've also learned from COVID.
They can only get away with fooling people, concealing evidence, getting their narrative out there for so long before it just crumbles and then everyone goes, Oh, wait a minute.
This was all BS to begin with.
And it was, we had really bad people in charge of it.
Yes.
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
I think one key difference here, and I'm glad you mentioned Russiagate, because for me, that was really the red pill with respect to the deep state.
Before that, if someone claimed that the deep state, or that there was a deep state and it was colluding against the sitting president, I would have said that sounds a little bit crazy.
tim pool
You're crossing anti-Semite point.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's right.
Anti-Semitic point of no return.
tim pool
So if you believe that there is a bureaucratic state, administrators and people who work in government who are there throughout various administrations and exert influence.
You may be right.
According to this researcher, you believe in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
seamus coughlin
And she does research on TikTok, so it's very important.
unidentified
Of course, yeah.
seamus coughlin
But no, I mean, it's true, and that was a big Red Bull moment for me, but the difference here is that with the Russiagate scenario, they were going specifically after people who were acting within the political system, Right.
But with January 6th, they're going after ordinary civilians.
So I'm curious about what the fallout is going to be here, because with Russiagate, they just stopped talking about it
and it disappeared.
I wonder if it's going to be more difficult for them to get away with that,
given your average person feels more threatened by what they've just done here.
tim pool
Right.
Well, the feds raided some random woman's home.
Remember that?
Do you know about that up in Alaska?
julie kelly
They've raided hundreds of people's homes.
tim pool
But yes, they were totally uninvolved people.
julie kelly
Well, they were there, but they had the wrong person.
Right, right, right.
But I mean, they're raiding people.
They're doing military style FBI raids with armed agents, pre-dawn raids with military SWAT teams.
They have trucks with battering rams.
They're aiming rifles at children.
They're aiming them at elderly women.
They've dragged a disabled veteran, Thomas Caldwell, through the snow and handcuffed him.
I mean, the stories of what this FBI has done.
And so it's not just the top of the FBI, right?
It's throughout.
It's every single... Well, they need enforcers.
56 field offices have been involved in this, and they are arresting people every single week.
They're trying to get to, in my prediction, is they're trying to get to a thousand defendants by the middle of the summer.
So this could be the Democrats' huge talking point.
But to your point, Seamus, this is ruining people's lives.
And it's not just the family that it happens to.
It's their whole neighborhood knows, their co-workers know, their church knows.
Everyone sees this.
It is a war on terror, not just how the tools of government authority are being used, but it's also a message to everyone.
unidentified
You dissent, this is going to happen to you.
tim pool
It sounds so similar to the start of the Bolshevik Revolution or the rise of the Soviet Union.
These are the stories that I was told by my friends who grew up as children in communism and the stories they were told by their parents about how It got to the point where if you said one bad thing about the party or the government, you were taken away.
We're not there yet.
We still have shows like this.
But we often talk about when we compare things to history, at what point did people say it's time to leave Germany?
Or Spain for that matter.
Spain often gets left out of these conversations.
The Spanish Civil War.
Communists fighting fascists and then you get military rule for like generations.
At what point do you leave?
What do you do?
So many people thought it couldn't happen here and they stayed in their countries and they paid the ultimate price.
I'm telling you to leave, Seamus.
Get out.
unidentified
You're always dropping these weird little hints on me.
seamus coughlin
I think it's not just about people leaving.
It's about the people who stay knowing when it's time to fight, to stand up for their country, and to say, this is wrong.
We're going to speak out against it.
We're going to resist it.
ian crossland
We got going for us here is that we're not coming out of a monarchy like the Bolsheviks were.
The Russian Revolution was fighting against a monarchy, so they didn't have much choice but to fight with physical arms.
We have a democratic process of free speech.
Things like that in place that can protect our ability to diplomatically coerce the system.
tim pool
And you're right.
And that's why I think one of the reasons they're scared, losing narrative control, means that this upcoming election is panic mode for the establishment.
It's mostly Democrats.
It is many Republicans because the populist surge in the Republican Party is not something the establishment wants.
But to your point, Julie, what you were saying about how they're ramping things up for the summer, because they're worried if they lose the House and the Senate, They're not just going to lose the House and the Senate to Republicans.
They're going to lose the House and the Senate to Republicans like Lily Tang Williams, who we had on the show, who is like, this country is becoming communist and we have to stop it!
Or Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert.
julie kelly
Wouldn't that be great?
That's right.
tim pool
And that's what they're terrified of because it's actually happening.
julie kelly
But we still have very weak Republican leadership in the House and Senate and people are very afraid even when they take over that this current leadership will not be capable or willing to do to turn the J6 committee 180 degrees and aim it at the people who have perpetrated this.
They don't want to expose it.
It's the same thing.
A lot of this goes back to Russiagate because How we got here is that nobody was held accountable for what happened in Russiagate, except for like Michael Sussman, like big deal.
And Ukrainegate.
Oh no, we've got the Vindmans, you know, now he's suing Trump and he's like on CNN and so is his wife.
No one's held accountable.
So it just got worse and worse and worse.
And so I say we went four years from the FBI ambushing Mike Flynn in the White House to ambushing the Hoopers, you know, ambushing veterans in their homes.
It only took four years.
But why?
Because no one was held criminally responsible for what they did, which was perpetrate the biggest political fraud in American history up until January 6th.
And everybody's off so far.
You know, we've got some drips out of the Durham investigation, but where's that going to go?
tim pool
Well, maybe There's going to be a big surge in November.
But not just that, it's the state elections, the governorships as well.
And we are very, very close to a convention of states.
The state-level Republicans are very, very different from the federal Republican leadership.
So that could be something big.
Some people have said it's a bad idea.
A lot of people are saying a convention of states is a good idea because then the states can just take the power, change the Constitution, and make big moves.
But I think the establishment knows that our processes, the processes that were set up by the Founding Fathers, work and can save us.
julie kelly
Well, they're not working now.
I mean, that's for sure.
Especially, I mean, there's been no oversight.
I mean, there has not.
tim pool
But, just to interrupt, I disagree.
I think the issue is that culturally, no one's been willing to stand up and use what's been given to us because they've been too comfortable and complacent.
But now that things have gotten this bad and the narrative has been shattered, there are mechanisms in place that even the establishment can't stop.
julie kelly
I hope that you're right.
I'm a little more skeptical about that because I've seen, I see firsthand how, you know, everyone basically has been silent in the face of what's happening with January 6th.
You're talking about not just the political end of it in Congress.
You have this illegitimate committee issuing subpoenas and they're working hand in hand with the DOJ for contempt of Congress charges.
You have Joe Biden for the first time ever.
U.S.
President has denied executive privilege to his predecessor.
He did it twice.
He did it based on the fact that January 6th was so unprecedented, and it went all the way to the courts.
And what did the Supreme Court do?
Okay, we're upholding it.
So you have district, you have district judges, circuit judges, and now the Supreme Court, who's going along with the left because they're afraid.
So there has been no oversight in the legislative branch of the executive branch.
None.
And it has to, but if they take over, they have to make sure they do it this time because they haven't done it.
tim pool
What has to happen is people need to primary all of these establishments, Republican types, and bring in more people like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
julie kelly
I absolutely agree.
I mean, I wish we had, you know, 230 of her because she actually will do it.
And she feels passionate about it.
But there's still a fear factor there.
And I'm afraid that if the Republicans do take the House, the Senate is useless.
You could have a hundred Republican senators.
They're not going to do anything because they're all basically Lindsey Graham or Mitt Romney.
They are.
Um, so it has to happen in the House.
And they have to do the same thing.
They have to go and zero out.
They have to zero out DOJ's budget.
You have to zero out the FBI.
We are zeroing you out until we, you are done.
You're done taking these, the trials are over.
We're not paying for any more prosecutors.
We're not paying for any more arrests.
We're not doing, no more subpoenas to Big Tech.
You're done with this.
Will they do it?
You have to do something that drastic.
tim pool
People go out and vote in the primaries, go out and vote locally, and make sure establishment politicians don't win, then yeah, it's gonna be crazy.
It's not gonna be the apocalypse.
That'll be if Trump wins again in 2024 because he's gonna be off the leash.
But, if populist, pro-America types win their primaries, and then the Republicans take the House, and you get a large portion of the House Republicans as people who say, we're done with this, and it's time to go on the offensive for once, then you're going to see some pushback.
You're going to see, I think, the establishment plan January 6th, done.
I think you're going to see Republicans making a bunch of moves with their subpoena power.
But it only happens if people go out and vote in primaries.
Primaries, primaries, primaries.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
I mean, it's true.
It's such a disaster.
Only our current Republican leadership could fail to turn the fact that the deep state has literally targeted their own constituents into a political advantage.
It's insane.
julie kelly
And you're going to watch Republicans in a few weeks.
They are going to continue the funding of the government, the same government that is turning the weapons of war against their own constituents and them.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
julie kelly
Perfect example.
The Congress, including most Republicans, just voted last year to give Capitol Police two billion more dollars.
What did Capitol Police do?
They turned around.
They opened up an intelligence unit for the Capitol Police.
You know, the guys who, like, make sure you put your purse through the scanner or tell you, oh, the Capitol's that way.
And there's, you know, a canon office building.
All of a sudden, they're like, They have a bunch of spies in this office and they're not only spying on lawmakers, their staff, they're spying on their donors, they're compiling dossiers.
Well, why are they doing that for the same thing they did in Russiagate, Ukrainegate, name it?
They have the authority to do it, they're unchecked, they're unaccountable, and they're going to leak that information to the press, right?
So all of a sudden this summer you're going to see terrible stories coming out.
Let me change the conversation and give people a bit of a white pill.
happens to be this Capitol Police Intelligence Unit that Republicans voted to fund.
They don't, they never learn.
tim pool
Let me change the conversation and give people a bit of a white pill.
It's a little scary conversation.
We're talking about all this crazy stuff, but I have a story about the waning power
of the establishment and interrupting scandal over at everyone's favorite network, CNN.
In this story from TimCast.com, CNN President Jeff Zucker announces resignation.
Zucker says he failed to disclose a relationship with a colleague to the media company, but oh boy, is it so much spicier than that.
We have this story from the Daily Mail.
Devastated, CNN hosts defend Jeff Zucker's illicit career-ending affair with staffer Allison Golest.
Brian Stelter blames Chris Cuomo for outing him, while Allison Camerota says he should not resign.
Well, this is really fascinating.
Chris isn't done yet.
Cuomo's lawyer demand to see emails they believe will prove Jeff Zucker knew about his help for Andrew, his brother Andrew, that could cost the former CNN chief millions of dollars after sacked host forced him to resign.
Alright, let me bundle this up for you guys.
First of all, CNN's ratings are just in the total trash.
We so the Tim pool Tim cast podcasts get more viewership than CNN does by like two or three times
That's how that's how bad CNN is doing what happens is Jeff Zucker
You've got Jeff Zucker who knows this woman Allison. What's her? What's it? What's her?
He must go lust for 20 years. Wow. She works for Andrew Cuomo, right?
Then she leaves to go work with him at CNN.
Chris Cuomo is then trying to help his brother with this big scandal.
They cover it up.
Chris Cuomo gets caught, doesn't get reprimanded.
All of a sudden, we're now learning that they're all in it together.
They're all one big happy family.
Jeff Zucker then comes out, fires Chris Cuomo.
Chris Cuomo, it seems, feels betrayed, like, yo, what are you doing?
Like, come on, man, you know, Alison, she worked with my brother and we helped you out.
So then he, then he publicly, he comes out and he says, Zucker was in a relationship with her and he didn't disclose it.
So then he's forced to resign.
I think there's a bigger scandal behind all of this, because this shows that CNN is directly colluding with Democratic politicians, Democrat politicians.
So that's I think there's more to it than just this and we're just getting the tip of the iceberg on this one but CNN imploding in real time from their top hosts to the president of their company to the connections they have with democratic establishment all being exposed Let that be a good day for all of you to see the eruption in front of your very eyes.
If CNN was a prime vector for Russia-gate misinformation, for Ukraine-gate misinformation, and now Kavanaugh and all that stuff, and defensive BLM rioting and all that stuff, not only does nobody watch them anymore, but they can't even keep the ship together.
It's sinking, baby.
seamus coughlin
That's beautiful.
So how many views do they get?
tim pool
So I looked up, this is totally independent of these stories, I looked up their ratings.
Their total daytime viewership, 443,000 viewers, I believe it's number.
seamus coughlin
No way.
tim pool
And their total primetime viewership is 663.
So daytime's usually way lower.
But this is a lot, daytime's a lot, a lot of hours.
But primetime is when everyone's tuning into the news.
So they're only getting just over about a million views, but get this, they only get around 230,000 key demographic views per day.
230,000 people between the ages of 25 to 54 watch CNN on a given day.
That's it.
That's how abysmally bad.
So I was saying this before the show.
I was like, yo, one segment that I do, that we do.
So on my TimCast News channel, we average like 250 unique views and key demo views.
One segment I do on my channel gets more than CNN's total key demographic daily viewership.
Seamus said to me, he's like, stop bragging.
And I said, no, no, no, no, no.
It's not because I'm doing well.
It's because CNN's collapsing.
seamus coughlin
No, and Tim does all that without any sex scandals either.
These people can't even get a fraction of the viewership without doing something creepy.
No, but it's true.
I mean, it is kind of remarkable to see how abysmal their views are.
And it's, I mean, it's also a white pill.
ian crossland
I'm not really.
I don't want to get too down on Zuck Zuck Zucker for this one.
I think he really loved that girl.
I mean, they've been together for 20 years.
Is that right?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Ooh, so it's like a little will they or won't they kind of thing for a while.
seamus coughlin
He escaped the friend zone.
tim pool
What was that joke you had earlier, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
I don't remember.
tim pool
You were like, uh, he said that he should have revealed the relationship sooner and didn't.
And you were saying like, Oh my gosh.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, she was like, it was a miscommunication.
She talked to management and was like, he was like, you know, we're just like talking.
It's not, you know what I mean?
He wouldn't define the relationship.
And she's like, well, I know who will.
tim pool
Well, no, yeah, you were saying... I'm gonna tell CNN.
The manager goes to Jeff Zucker and says, are you in a relationship with this woman?
And then she turns and goes, yeah, Jeff, are we in a relationship?
seamus coughlin
That's right, that's right, that's right.
We were talking about this earlier.
She's like, yeah, Jeff.
He's like, the executive's like, so what are you guys?
She's like, yeah, Jeff, what are we?
Like, what's this?
He's like, oh.
unidentified
And then he's like... Just zoom in on his face real slow.
ian crossland
Music.
tim pool
Yo, this is a ridiculous scandal.
ian crossland
I think this is like an easy pass for him to get out.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, he wanted to quit.
But here's the crazy thing.
They were saying this woman, Allison Golust was potentially going to replace him as president.
Wow.
Yeah, so if nobody watches CNN, where do they get all their money from?
I'm genuinely curious.
Like, you know, she may be tapped to be the new president when he steps down because he
was talking about leaving for some time.
Now all of a sudden he's leaving because the whole thing is imploding.
lydia smith
Yeah.
So if nobody watches CNN, where do they get all their money from?
I'm genuinely curious.
tim pool
You know, it's like a subsidy.
seamus coughlin
But isn't it also completely AT&T?
I think.
Isn't it completely insane that the people who make all of their money lying all the time don't conduct themselves in an upright manner in their personal lives?
It's so bizarre.
Who would have thought?
ian crossland
You would think they'd be honest in their personal lives.
seamus coughlin
Who would have thought that you can't trust people who you can't trust?
tim pool
People are calling for Brian Stelter to be fired or quit, resign.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Because he avoided reporting on this ongoing major scandal at his own network that people have known about for some time.
seamus coughlin
Well, he feels sorry for you.
Was that him during the Project Veritas video?
He's like, I feel sorry for you.
I feel sorry for you.
tim pool
Brian Stelter?
seamus coughlin
I believe it was Stelter.
tim pool
Oh, isn't it that they confronted him in like, was it a parking garage or something?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, he's like, I feel sorry for you.
I feel sorry for you.
tim pool
He's trying to get away.
seamus coughlin
He's super condescending.
ian crossland
When you arrest a murderer, you don't cut off the finger that he used to pull the trigger.
That's Stelter's the finger.
CNN is the villain.
I'm kind of joking because you could always terminate Brian Stelter.
seamus coughlin
Can you imagine if he did report that story on air though?
tim pool
The president of this company, my boss, is in a secret relationship with the chief marketing officer.
Everyone here knows it but no one's saying anything because we're scumbags.
seamus coughlin
I feel sorry for them.
lydia smith
Yeah, I feel sorry for them.
tim pool
Look, the bigger story is that CNN's one of the principal propaganda machines, and it's
just like, we are sitting on the—here's what—I want you all to imagine this.
It is a warm summer night.
We're all on the beach.
There's a nice fire going, right?
There's a nice fire going.
It's not too warm.
And, you know, your friend reaches over, puts their hand on your shoulder, and hands you
a nice cold beer.
And you all look off into the shoreline and you see a gigantic ship that says CNN just sinking and in flames.
And then everyone holds up their drink.
unidentified
Salud!
lydia smith
What a great night.
seamus coughlin
That's like, all right, first of all, I cannot condone that kind of talk.
Do you remember when someone made a meme of where they like photoshopped the CNN logo onto a wrestler's head and Trump was punching it and CNN literally doxxed him?
And then not only did CNN dox them, they banned the video, they doxed this kid, and then they reported on their own doxing thinking it made them look good.
They're like, we found him.
lydia smith
He'll never do this again.
seamus coughlin
We feel sorry for him.
tim pool
They didn't dox him, they threatened to dox him.
They said, we know his name, and if he agrees to never do it again, we won't release his name.
unidentified
And everyone was like, yo, that's crazy.
julie kelly
Didn't Chris Wallace just go to CNN?
tim pool
Yeah, CNN Plus I think.
julie kelly
That was a good move.
unidentified
Well, he was just like, I would like to jump on that sinking ship.
tim pool
And then he did.
julie kelly
Perfect timing.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
You know, I wake up in the morning and I get out of bed.
I turn on the Keurig and it pours me.
We use biodegradable Keurig cups.
They're very, very nice.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
They're disgusting.
tim pool
I think it's fantastic.
And then I get my coffee and I put some cream in it and then I take a sip and then I walk over.
And I walk over to my computer and I press the button to turn the screensaver off and I see a big story, you know, CNN ratings in the gutter, racked by scandal, and I just look up and I say, it's going to be a good day.
And I get to work and, oh man, it feels good.
seamus coughlin
It does.
tim pool
It's really frustrating to see, you know, we can talk about the Joe Rogan thing where Brian Stelter is like, we have a newsroom and we try so hard and people just trust Joe Rogan because they don't trust us.
It's like, oh, poor baby.
You know, I love to see it.
You love to see it, man.
You guys, they lied every day about Russia.
They staged Chris Cuomo's quarantine.
They pretended he was in quarantine.
They lied.
They know they lied.
Brian Stelter knows they lied.
These people are evil.
Their actions are intentional.
We all know it, and we are all gloating in their glorious sinking ship.
seamus coughlin
It's more than that.
tim pool
Watching their glorious sinking ship.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, we're watching it sink.
Here's the other thing, though.
It's not as if they just lied, right?
They have never acknowledged or apologized for any of those lies, even though they scolded you for believing that they were lying the entire time that they were lying.
And so I'm not just watching this gloating.
I am genuinely happy that there are fewer people consuming their lies.
tim pool
I want to give a shout out to our good friend Michael Malice.
He says, White pill.
After CNN decided to take on Joe Rogan, both the president and most popular host were driven out of their jobs.
seamus coughlin
Mess with Joe, you gotta go.
lydia smith
There you go.
I love it.
That's perfect.
tim pool
I love when people are saying, uh, denounce the honk and you get the bonk.
unidentified
Because the conservative leader got ousted or whatever.
lydia smith
Yeah, those are good mottos.
Well, Ian was saying before the show that he didn't really want to cancel people like CNN, and I think that this is actually a form of actual justice, not social justice.
That's right.
Because they've done nothing but lie.
We know they've done nothing but lie.
You can see Chris Cuomo coming up out of his basement when we know for a fact that he was in a fight with a guy on a bike in the Hamptons two weeks before.
We know he wasn't quarantining.
We know they're all lying.
They're just full of garbage.
And this has finally come up for them.
unidentified
And yes, it does look feel good. They said they said yeah He said that was like the n-word for Italian exactly
seamus coughlin
It's not It's like very much not it's not even close dumb. Oh, man
tim pool
So CNN lied over and over again claiming that Joe Rogan took horse medicine
They all know they lie.
And when I see these posts on Facebook, they're like, Joe Rogan took horse medicine.
And then I comment, I'm like, you know he didn't, right?
Like, you know a doctor prescribed him tablets.
And they're like, yes, but the medication in the tablets is the same medication they use for horse medicine.
seamus coughlin
So I'm just making a point.
tim pool
Well, you know you're lying dude.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, like what went into his mouth is horse medicine.
What comes out of your mouth is horse crap.
lydia smith
There you go.
seamus coughlin
Literally never an honest word from these people.
lydia smith
I'm on fire tonight.
seamus coughlin
Also, wait, there's something.
Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
There was something I wanted to mention here, but my train of thought will derail.
tim pool
We got a story.
seamus coughlin
My train of thought.
Oh no, I just want to say one thing about With Ian, to be fair, Ian kind of turned around on that point before the show about cancel culture.
One thing that drives me crazy is this left-wing talking point where they say cancel culture is just about accountability, even though they're just trying to get like average working class people fired from their jobs or political activists they don't like punished for things they said 10 years ago.
And then when we're against cancel culture, anytime we want someone to be punished for an actual crime, they go, I thought you guys were against cancer!
You think people should be punished for actual crimes that they've committed or should be thrown out of the organization they're at for actually breaking the rules?
I thought you were against cancer!
I thought you were against firing people for 10-year-old tweets!
What's the deal?
Hypocrisy much?
tim pool
I want to say, first...
I want to show you the story from Rolling Stone.
Ian, I got bad news for you.
seamus coughlin
Uh oh.
tim pool
Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young reunite in removing their music from Spotify.
unidentified
No!
tim pool
We support Neil and we agree with him that there is dangerous disinformation being aired on Spotify's Joe Rogan podcast.
ian crossland
Dude, you guys support Neil?
Yes!
tim pool
What information?
What did Joe say?
What disinformation?
You don't even watch the show.
None of these people do.
To go off what you were just saying, Ian, we need to stop pretending that these people are being serious.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
They have no idea why they're even mad.
All they know is someone on the TV said Joe Rogan bad, and they went, uh, I'm down for some free press.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's it.
seamus coughlin
Well, I mean, to be fair, Tim, I think that their target audience is most at risk for COVID.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
Dude, it's so good seeing those guys together again.
That's true.
tim pool
That's true.
And, and, and you know what?
Um, these are, this is the demographic that watches CNN.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
So they see all the lies, they walk right into it.
ian crossland
Look, man, I'm going to listen to it on Amazon.
So I got to say ding dong.
tim pool
Joe came out.
He did not apologize for his guests.
He said they were credentialed.
He said, I'm going to have these conversations, but he said, this is really funny.
He was like, I'll try to balance it out and make sure we have, you know, a more established establishment voice or something like that effect the following show.
So if they do Robert Malone, they'll have someone else on.
And it's just like, Joe, you're saying that the one time out of, you know, 100 guests, you have one critical opinion, you're going to add in another one of the 99% mainstream majority opinions everyone's already heard.
Like, you know, Joe pointed out he had Sanjay Gupta and Mike Osterholm on his show, and then he had Peter McCullough and Dr. Malone.
It's like, so you split it up pretty well.
But they're not satisfied with that.
So when he, you know, makes some concessions and Spotify says, okay, they wanted a misinformation policy, we'll do it.
It doesn't matter.
Spotify came out and said, okay, okay, we'll do your misinformation policy.
And now Crosby, Stills, and Nash join in and getting their music.
They're not going to stop because they don't know what they're talking about.
They are not talking to you, Spotify.
These activists are not saying, Spotify, we have a demand.
They're saying, Hey guys, I'm yelling at Spotify right now.
That's what they're doing.
lydia smith
Join me.
tim pool
They're not communicating with any of these people.
They don't know why they're mad.
They don't know why it matters.
All they know is they're virtue signaling to activists they want to spend money on their music and give them press because they're has-beens.
And then what ends up happening is you get 30 people on Twitter who never buy your product, and then the company goes, 30 people on Twitter are complaining about our product.
Better pull it!
They were never going to buy a product in the first place.
So it's just frustrating when people keep giving in to obvious BS and they don't stop.
When will people learn?
When will anyone learn that when they come out and say, we demand you do this.
If you go, okay, I'll do it.
Ah, now we demand you do this.
Then this.
Uh, next we want these things.
We have this list of demands.
It's never going to end until you say, shut your mouth.
You're deleted.
If as soon as they said, pull my music, Spotify went, you got it, buy, delete.
And then Crosby, Stills, and Nash comes out and says, we're going to reunite.
Say, have a nice day.
You're old anyway.
Buy.
Just tell them to shove off.
You know, look, I get it.
Spotify is going to lose money.
Well, yeah.
lost their shares, went down because of the controversy.
Many of these lefty people will pull off the platform. They knew that was going to happen
when they signed Joe Rogan in the first place. So make no concessions.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah. Also, I mean, I have a hard time believing that before signing any kind of
contract with Spotify, Joe Rogan didn't consider this possibility and ensure that he would
not be removed from his platform because some know-nothing celebrity said he should be.
unidentified
I would be very surprised if there's anything.
seamus coughlin
I really mean it.
I would be very surprised if there was anything that Spotify could do.
lydia smith
Well, to me, this just looks like a bunch of old or out-of-touch artists who are like, oh, here's my chance to get two minutes of fame because somebody said India Ari took her music off Spotify and Mary Trump took her podcast off Spotify.
unidentified
Who knew she had a podcast?
seamus coughlin
For young people who want to, you know, try to get a Spotify account, upload some of their music, there's more opportunity.
lydia smith
That's right.
seamus coughlin
There you go.
Self-regulated.
julie kelly
What's funny about Crosby, Stills, and Nash is again exposing the hypocrisy of the left.
These were the counterculture right back in the 60s.
The baby boomers, the anti-war, you know, freedom, etc.
And now they're just aged, you know, grumpy old men who are trying to, you know, cut down the young upstart Um, it just, once again, the left is just full of hypocrisy.
And these are the guys who, you know, 50 years ago were leading, you know, music's attempts to, you know, in the 60s, they were, they were powerful in terms of their messaging.
And now here they are trying to, I mean, who would have seen this coming, but it just exposes what the left is.
tim pool
Didn't Neil Young have a free speech tour?
lydia smith
Yeah, I think he did.
ian crossland
I watched him talking about COVID a couple of days ago and he was like, we can beat this thing!
His voice is way higher than you think when you listen to him talk.
We can beat it!
I know we can!
We can do it!
And it's like, what is he talking about?
Beat this thing!
You don't talk about like the common, the rhinovirus, like we're going to beat this thing.
julie kelly
They don't even know what they're talking about.
I mean, they couldn't even put two sentences together and it makes sense of anything, but they got their headlines and That's all they care about. You just got to stop letting
tim pool
that like for whatever reason people seem to think that the kid throwing a temper tantrum
on the on the on the playground demanding that you give him the basketball is going to stop
having temper tantrums when you when you give him what he wants. It's like dude when the
baby starts crying and screaming like the the toddler comes in screaming I want ice cream.
You gotta be like, you can't have ice cream for breakfast.
And they'll scream, and they'll cry, and then you just be like, that's not doing anything for you.
ian crossland
What if they're still screaming eight hours later?
seamus coughlin
You're a dangerous purveyor of misinformation!
Like, nope, sorry, no ice cream for you, bud.
tim pool
You're four years old!
When did you learn?
ian crossland
I was lucky that my parents would punish kids like that, and they'd just isolate them and make them suffer and cry through the whole thing until they're done crying, but like, what if the kid keeps crying?
And keeps crying and keeps crying.
They used to beat the kid.
julie kelly
They can't.
They eventually run out of cries.
seamus coughlin
They need ice cream as fuel to keep crying.
tim pool
You know what happens when a kid is crying?
I'll tell you this.
When a toddler is crying, a young kid, you know, saying, I want something.
And you say, well, you can't have it.
And they keep crying and you walk away.
You know what they do as soon as you walk away?
unidentified
Stop.
tim pool
They stop crying and look around to figure out where you went, why you weren't giving them attention.
Because crying doesn't work.
They figure out crying doesn't work and they'll stop and they'll try something else.
So you can't, when the baby starts screaming and crying, you cannot give the baby what they want.
You have to be a responsible adult and say, no, no, no.
Crosby, stop it.
seamus coughlin
Which is exactly, exactly.
unidentified
Neil, I understand why you're sad.
seamus coughlin
Literally exactly going back to our earlier story why the truckers need to stay the course and why we cannot buy their BS about these people being Nazis or white supremacists or whatever because that is their temper tantrum exactly ignore these whiny babies.
tim pool
Yeah You're like, I haven't slept in five days!
And it's like, well, I can't cross the border anymore, so deal with it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, and here's the thing.
So if you are one of these truckers protesting, you're actually giving them a good thing in the same way that a parent who ignores their child's temper tantrum is giving them a good thing.
Because these left-wingers who are slandering you and making ridiculous accusations about you, as soon as they start to realize that those really aren't going to work, Some of them, some small minority, maybe even many of them are going to actually try to pursue real strategy for effecting the change they want to see in the world.
And I think it's going to make them more responsible adults and it will actually reorient their goals away from leftism.
So you're helping them.
tim pool
I just want to say, I don't want to be overly pessimistic on this because I'm frustrated with these weirdos.
Let me see if I can pull up Joe Rogan real quick on Instagram because I want to show you guys something that's a total white pill.
Is it just Joe Rogan on Instagram?
Is it gonna work?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's see if it works.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So where's that post he made?
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We got this post from him.
So one of the most important things about Joe Rogan's statement on Spotify is that aside from people like Tulsi Gabbard and Tim Dillon, who are very obviously fans and friends of his, if you scroll down through Joe Rogan's post, All of these people, tons of people, tons of verified Instagram users are all like, Joe, we love you.
You're the best.
We're on your side.
I was looking, I was reading an article and it was like, here's a list of celebrities who came out in defense of Joe Rogan on his Instagram post saying awesome things about him.
And it's like, Crosby, Stills and Nash joining Neil Young.
Yo, you guys are on the wrong side of history, as the left likes to say.
Joe Rogan's got mainstream... Look at Jewel.
You guys know Jewel?
lydia smith
Yeah, she has a beautiful voice.
tim pool
You're doing a great job keeping up.
ian crossland
She was on a show and it was so good.
lydia smith
Yeah, she's good.
ian crossland
I only saw her a couple hours.
tim pool
It's not like she's the biggest celebrity in the world right now, but you've got... Look at all of these... Right now, you have high hopes.
Look at all of these verified users.
Some, obviously, we know, but... Hey, Kristina Pozitsky.
Who's that?
ian crossland
Kristina P. That's Tom Segura's wife.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
ian crossland
She's awesome.
tim pool
All of the, there's a whole bunch of mainstream celebrities, Jamie Kennedy, UFC fighters,
who are like, Joe's awesome. Joe is winning this one, even when he comes in and can seed some
ground there. I'm not a big fan of it, but the point is, as much as it's annoying to see, look,
you got Kelly Slater, pro surfer. They're just, they're not on the side of these crackpots.
We are winning.
Free speech is winning.
The right to free inquiry, freedom of association, it's all winning.
And as Michael Malice said, when CNN took on Joe Rogan, their president and the host of the biggest show got ousted.
So, boom.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, how wonderful.
tim pool
It feels great.
ian crossland
I can't wrestle with that guy.
tim pool
I think, you know, I saw a news story and it was talking about all of the celebrities cheering on Joe Rogan, and I'm like, that's the message people need to hear.
That with all this stuff going down and all of these media outlets being like, oh, Joe did this and Joe did that, and these celebrities are angry, you gotta see the bigger picture.
What are high profile and regular people actually saying?
They don't believe in the cancel culture.
They don't care for it.
They're fans.
They love his show.
He's got 7.6 million views on his post.
He's winning.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Kevin James.
tim pool
Kevin James.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Kevin James.
julie kelly
And how many new subscribers, how many people have never heard of him before?
lydia smith
Before this kerfuffle?
julie kelly
Yes, exactly.
I mean, usually this stuff always backfires too, which the left never figures out.
So it's like, pick your fighter.
This guy who, you know, you had people like, Grandma, wait, who's this Joe Rowe?
All right, I'm going to sign up, subscribe to him.
Yeah.
Oh, Crosby, Stills, and Nash.
Wait, what have they done for the past 50 years?
Nothing.
So it always backfires.
So he's picking up new attention.
He's picking up support.
He's picking up new viewers.
And it's just completely backfiring on them once again.
seamus coughlin
Oh, no, you go, Drew.
lydia smith
I was just going to say, I can't help feeling that Joe Rogan is right now the voice of populism, which is highly encouraging because to see all these celebrities being on board with him and also to see all the normal people who completely agree with him, very encouraging.
I do think that we are winning on this one.
tim pool
I just want to pull up this one more post to make sure everybody knows.
seamus coughlin
Oh yeah.
tim pool
From the Associated Press.
No evidence video color was manipulated in CNN news segment September 10th.
And then this post showing CNN's version of the video with Joe Rogan makes him look like he's dying.
seamus coughlin
He looks like a smurf.
lydia smith
He does, yeah.
seamus coughlin
We didn't edit that.
No, it's how he looked when we got it.
julie kelly
Experts say this was not done.
tim pool
They're trying to argue that it was like, oh, but people looked on different devices and that's why it looked that way.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I took, I did the experiment myself.
I took Joe Rogan's video on the same monitor, same computer, and I played the video, I screen grabbed it, and then I took the CNN clip and I screen grabbed it.
You can clearly tell they're different, by the way.
I put them into a graphic illustrator program, vectorized the images, and then analyzed the color palettes to break it down, and you can see it is manipulated!
Manipulated dude, he literally in the top photo He looks like one of those guys in the artsy hipster part of the city that dresses as a statue And like stands around for money looks that is not how a normal human looks without editing He looks like OJ like trying to do his own video, but like he's got the camera in the wrong spot But this is just the point When all of these mainstream personalities, high-profile celebrities, and regular people are like, you rock, the narrative doesn't make sense.
When the AP is like, there's no evidence, and then you look at it, you're like, yo, I have eyes!
I can see it!
seamus coughlin
I know!
Who are you gonna believe, us or your eyes?
I'll see your eyes, yeah.
One thing I wanted to mention, piggybacking off what you said a moment or to respond to what you said a moment ago about the fact that they don't seem to understand that they harm themselves and their message by going after these people because they end up promoting them.
I think the reality is an infant throwing a temper tantrum or a toddler throwing a temper tantrum isn't all that concerned with the optics.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
And if they got to the point where they could be concerned with the optics, they wouldn't be throwing the tantrums anymore.
tim pool
But if the tantrum's working, then why do you care?
It works, it works.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
And they've been spoiled for way too long and people are starting to go, okay, no.
I have to go to work.
I have to do my job.
I'm not listening to this.
tim pool
Think about what we're watching, right?
CNN has a temper tantrum.
Joe Rogan responds very calmly and positively and says, I'm a fan of Neil Young.
It's great music.
Sorry if I made you mad, guys.
You know, we'll do better.
Very adult, very mature.
The temper tantrum doesn't work.
Imagine you're watching, you go to an ice cream shop and you see one kid screaming and banging on the counter, give me ice cream!
And then the other kid is like, mother, if I get an extra scoop of ice cream, I promise to do my chores when we go home.
You're going to be like, oh, that kid's very well behaved.
And that kid's a little dished, you know what I mean?
That's what we're seeing from the outside.
You're watching CNN have this tantrum and you're just like, they've lost their credibility.
julie kelly
But the reason my kids have perpetual, the kids who have the tantrums all the time have the bad parents who respond to it, right?
So that's the lesson.
So as a mother, you know, then you don't, you walk away, you don't even engage the kid.
The kids who have the perpetual temper tantrums are the ones with the mom who keeps appeasing them.
So this is what's happening there.
You're talking about a bunch of toddlers and bad mothers.
tim pool
If you've got kids and they're complaining that they want something, you've got to make sure you get the paperwork drawn up, the I's are dotted, the T's are crossed, and you make them sign that contract and you litigate everything.
You say, don't cry, don't cry.
We do the paperwork.
You want one scoop of ice cream?
Well, I want the dishes done, so sign here.
All right, initial there, initial there.
All right, we have a contract.
Here's your ice cream, and we'll get the dishes done.
Teach them a good lesson about how the corporate world works.
seamus coughlin
Really, the longer the image is up, the more astounding it is.
What kind of middle school shenanigans is that?
I don't like him, so I'm gonna make him look like Drax.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
It's the most obnoxious.
Let's make him look ugly in the picture.
lydia smith
Yeah, he looks ugly now.
tim pool
Dude, I remember when I first heard the story about how they changed the color.
I didn't see it from Joe.
I didn't see it from anybody.
I was watching the CNN video claiming he took... It says he took horse dewormer right there from CNN.
They're lying!
And I watched the video and I was like, yo, Joe looks bad.
unidentified
I don't want that horse dewormer stuff.
Right?
tim pool
Yo, it's so insanely obvious what they're doing.
I feel like, you know, we're all popping out of the Matrix and they're like, stop, no, don't.
People just started waking up to the insanity of the alive.
I feel bad for regular people who are still trapped in there.
Yeah, you know and they think they think they think they're right because you can trust CNN
seamus coughlin
but how do they were so so let's say it's the case because trying to look at this from the lens of
Someone who still trusts CNN and maybe I'm giving them too much credit here with respect to critical thinking
abilities, right?
but if CNN Put this on air and they really didn't edit it
He just happens to look like he's from a different species in it, but they didn't notice that and still want to air with it?
That's almost just as bad, because at the end of the day, you're getting false information as a viewer.
So I'm really curious how the people who are diehard fans of this network, or who are loyal to it, would respond to something like this.
They could respond to something like this.
tim pool
CNN told me that they are the most trusted name And that's and to be honest, it might be true and it's a
low bar And they told me about that Apple remember that this is an
apple Yeah, they were like this is an apple it's just an apple or
whatever and it's like we're not fake news like we showed you
An apple or something. I told you I do remember when Don Lemon was like
Now it may be preposterous, but was the plane swallowed by a black black hole?
unidentified
I know!
tim pool
And then the lady on CNN goes, well, you know, even a small black hole would swallow the whole universe!
unidentified
What?!
tim pool
I'm not kidding, that actually happened.
And I'm like, yo, first of all, there's no way a black hole swallowed the airplane.
Second of all, a small black hole would not swallow the universe.
seamus coughlin
The entire universe, or else we wouldn't have a universe like that.
Or we wouldn't have black holes in one or the other, you know?
This isn't that complicated.
tim pool
Do you think the jet got swallowed up?
I kind of feel bad right now because we get more views than CNN does.
seamus coughlin
We're punching down to it.
tim pool
We're bullying CNN.
ian crossland
We need to help them.
seamus coughlin
We need to not pull up the ladder behind us.
This is constructive.
tim pool
We should bring CNN on the show to help them get the word out about their channel and maybe they'll get more subscribers.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, bring John CNN on.
The man himself.
ian crossland
Zucker has no ties now.
Maybe he'll come on and speak all for us.
seamus coughlin
Look, I did the photoshop.
It was Microsoft Paint.
tim pool
He wants revenge on Chris Cuomo now for costing him his job.
seamus coughlin
Chris did that photoshop.
He's been messing with Premiere a lot lately.
tim pool
What if he came in with a big stack of documents and was like, here's everything.
seamus coughlin
This is all, like, furry fanfics.
tim pool
On every story they've ever run, they have the truth.
It's like, when you write the news, you write it, and then they write the fake version and archive the real story and then publish the fake one.
And they're like, well, so remember that one story about Trump?
Here's the actual story.
We actually do, for reference.
Well, it's because they want to know the history, you know what I mean?
You know, so I thought about how crazy it is with all the fake news.
Think about how it's going to impact history.
unidentified
Oh, I know.
tim pool
And people are going to believe the lies forever.
It's going to be a hundred years.
They're going to be like, Donald Trump was colluding with the Russians.
julie kelly
That's right.
seamus coughlin
I know.
julie kelly
And that was CNN.
Remember, CNN was the first network on January 10th, 19... What year was it?
Not 19.
2017, January 10th, 2017.
They ran the, I think they won an award for it, I think they won a Pulitzer Prize, about the dossier and the briefing that Jim Clapper did with Trump and with Jim Comey to tell them about the Russian pee tape.
Oh, that's right.
So this really launched the P-Tape, the dossier.
BuzzFeed also published it that day.
But CNN was responsible for really launching Russiagate and legitimizing it, saying that Clapper and Comey had met with Trump and alerted them that they had compromat on Donald Trump.
And so that's where it started.
And so this is good karma.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, also middle school behavior.
Like, I'm going to say some peed on him.
Like, it's just complete nonsense.
Like, complete disgusting nonsense.
Totally depraved.
tim pool
How insane was that?
It was absurd.
Hold on.
Do you remember the story from the Huffington Post where it was like, a tape exists of Trump somewhere doing something.
lydia smith
In an elevator.
tim pool
Where he was, we don't know.
And what he did is you were unsure of.
julie kelly
But he did it.
tim pool
But journalists know it happened, and they're trying to find out what.
It's like, why?
julie kelly
But again, millions of Americans still believe that that happened.
lydia smith
Yeah.
julie kelly
They still believe that there's a tape with Donald Trump at the Moscow Ritz with prostitutes urinating in front of him.
They're like, yeah, that tape's there.
unidentified
Well, I gotta be honest.
tim pool
I honestly do believe that Trump will have done something like that in his life, but whether there's an actual tape of it in the circumstances they've proposed, well, that's outrageous.
Well, the reason it works is because Donald Trump is a crazy guy.
julie kelly
And that's why people believe it.
He's got a golden toilet, right?
lydia smith
Does he?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, doesn't he have a golden toilet?
Yeah, I heard that.
julie kelly
CNN says.
seamus coughlin
So, I want to say one thing.
You mentioned history, and it's true that there are probably a lot of things in our history books that were just part of media propaganda, and we believe them today.
However, I will say this.
The New York Times tried as hard as they could to cover up the whole of Amur, and that still came out.
The New York Times also very much under-reported on the Holocaust.
That still came out.
So, I think it doesn't always happen.
It doesn't always happen.
But I really genuinely believe that when we need it, the truth does come out.
tim pool
But Seamus...
Think about what you just said, then think about the New York Times lying to get us into the Middle East.
They're still around.
The New York Times has done all of those things, and people are still like, I'm gonna read the New York Times.
Maybe you shouldn't.
seamus coughlin
I agree with you, but I think a big part of that was because prior to the internet, your average person who was aware of these lies because they found them through research couldn't point them out.
tim pool
Yeah.
And it was hard to find, it was hard to research because they were the arbiters of morality and truth.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
But now we are in a different age and information has been decentralized.
So with that being said, smash that like button, honk the like button, one like is one honk.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
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Make sure that we can keep doing the work we do and we're going to have a members only
Yes.
uncensored podcast going up around 11 p.m. tonight.
You're not going to want to miss it.
Now let's see what y'all have to say in the super chats.
I think there's a lot of honks.
Wimplo says honk.
All right.
That's a good super chat.
All right.
Bobby Bob says, good luck to the counter protester.
I don't think they will be able to be heard.
You know what's going to happen?
The counter protesters are going to show up and they're going to have like lefty signs, like saying down with fascism or whatever, but you're not going to be able to hear a word they say as the horns are honking.
So everyone will assume they're actually part of the same protest.
Like, what are they going to do?
You know what I mean?
Everyone's going to be like, hey, look, more people showed up.
All right.
Rekra Morrison says, it's cold up here.
Honk Honk needs hoodies and toques.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Oh, we should, we should make a free Honk Honk sweater.
lydia smith
And yeah, oh, Jessica did.
tim pool
Oh, she did?
unidentified
Yeah.
Hey!
lydia smith
She was looking at how much they're earning.
They're doing great.
unidentified
And she made a hoodie.
tim pool
Oh, she made a hoodie?
Yep.
lydia smith
And stickers.
tim pool
I kind of want to, I don't know if we can do it in time is the issue, but I wanted to send a bunch of the hoodies up to people.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's a great idea.
tim pool
But I don't think we can get them made in time is the issue.
lydia smith
Oh, maybe not.
tim pool
Because it takes like several, it takes like three weeks to get them all, to get them shipped and sent.
Because if you do a big order, But, uh, you know, if you need a hoodie, Free Honk Honk.
Uh, do they do flags?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
I want to get a Free Honk Honk flag.
lydia smith
Oh, that sounds good.
tim pool
Yeah, that'd be fun.
We'll put, we'll like, we'll put up a flag post and like put it in front of the castle and just like have this big flag that says Free Honk Honk.
Free Honk Honk!
All right, let's read some more Super Chats.
Christopher Knowles says, Blackstones, would you rather?
Would you rather imprison an innocent person for a crime committed by a criminal or imprison a criminal for a crime that never happened?
Is it?
Oh, I see what you're saying with Blackstone's formulation.
Yes, Blackstone's formulation.
ian crossland
I guess I'd rather imprison the criminal for a crime other than the one that he committed than an innocent person for a crime that he didn't commit.
seamus coughlin
Neither.
That's confusing.
Yeah, go with neither.
tim pool
Yeah, neither.
ian crossland
Oh, I didn't know that was an option.
seamus coughlin
It's always an option, Ian.
It's always an option.
tim pool
I refuse to play.
seamus coughlin
You can reject a false dichotomy whenever you want.
unidentified
Yes, do it.
seamus coughlin
I don't want to see you held hostage by these kinds of hypotheticals.
tim pool
All right, Bill Cox.
Milcox says, Tim, if the military intervenes without proof that the protest is no longer peaceful, they're in violation of Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Right to Peaceful Assembly.
Honk!
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't know if it matters at this point.
julie kelly
Right.
I mean... That stuff doesn't matter.
tim pool
Right, look, January 6th is a really great example of it not mattering.
julie kelly
Doesn't.
tim pool
On, uh, as Seamus mentioned, they went to the White House, they tore down the barricades, they set fire to a guard post, they set fire to the church across the street, the president was rushed down to a security bunker.
seamus coughlin
Injured federal agents.
julie kelly
Bunker boy.
tim pool
Injured federal agents.
julie kelly
Bunker boy.
And they made fun of him.
tim pool
They laughed.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
And then when AOC, like, literally made up a story, they were like, oh, she's so brave.
tim pool
AOC lied about the entire story.
seamus coughlin
She made it up.
Isn't that telling though?
There's something very interesting here.
When Trump actually had to be rushed to shelter, he was in a vulnerable position.
He didn't advertise that because I think real leaders know you should not advertise your vulnerability.
Whereas AOC wants to appear as a victim, which is why she can never be a good leader.
julie kelly
And let's remember what happened after Lafayette Square.
They didn't call those people insurrectionists or traitors or whatever.
Congress held two hearings against the police about what happened in Lafayette Square.
All the rioting charges were dropped against those people and they were attacking federal officers on federal property, leading to in front of the White House trying to jump over the fence.
But they held hearings in Congress, not about the insurrectionists, but about police and how
they behave.
seamus coughlin
People were literally trying to break into the White House.
Do you think you might have overreacted there in your response? Right, remember that?
It's insane.
julie kelly
Yeah, the press briefing.
tim pool
We got Matt Price.
He says, shout out to the guy that does Common Sense Soapbox.
If y'all know who that guy is, you should get him on the show.
seamus coughlin
That's hilarious.
So Common Sense Soapbox is a second channel I have.
It's a collaboration between myself and the Foundation for Economic Education.
And we just try to do educational cartoons about economics.
So we just released a video yesterday, which is the second part in a series we're doing, trying to illustrate the absurdity behind the philosophy that led to the lockdowns, illustrated through an analogy where characters are on an island.
So I'd highly recommend you all check that out.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Reclaim the Frame says, if Trump were to win office again, do you think he would pardon those charged for January 6th?
julie kelly
Oh, I'm sorry.
I just stepped right in there.
I thought it was my question.
Probably.
Oh, it is your question.
I believe that he, I don't know, he says stuff and then he doesn't do it.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
No, it's true.
julie kelly
Hold on, hold on.
Let me back up here.
I think that he probably will for, well, he'll go with his friends first, anybody who got in trouble.
And then I'm sure, hopefully, he will pardon the people who were charged with the lower crimes.
But I think he'd have a hard time pardoning anyone who was charged with attacking a police officer, that sort of thing, even though those charges are sketchy, too.
tim pool
He's got one, if he gets re-elected, I guess, or he gets elected again, is probably the way to put it, he doesn't have to worry about a re-election.
So he can just, he's off the leash.
He's going to be like, rubber stamp, baby, I'm doing what I want.
julie kelly
I hope so.
I mean, he left a lot on the table.
He left us, he created a lot of problems and he left us with a big mess.
seamus coughlin
And I'll say this, even though Trump has certainly not kept all of his promises, he would probably see it as his prerogative to make an example out of the people in the deep state who went after him and his followers.
So I think there's some reasonable hope that he actually would pardon.
ian crossland
I have none of that hope.
I don't like the superhero worship.
I think he's just a corrupt dude that wants power.
seamus coughlin
Sure, but even feeling that way, I think the Deep State is such an obvious enemy for him that it would be a really straightforward move if that makes sense.
ian crossland
But they'll just kill the president when they try and oust the Deep State.
If you try and take out the FBI director who's been there for 40 years, they're like, no, no, this is my government, dude.
You're only here for eight years.
tim pool
As much as most people probably, you know, look at the JFK thing and kind of like, you know, roll their eyes left and right, it is still getting a bit speculative.
We don't know exactly what went down with any of that stuff.
unidentified
The official story is one guy did it all.
ian crossland
And then that story is nuts.
tim pool
I know.
ian crossland
It's really true.
They found Oswald up in the school or something where he worked.
But it was like 40 minutes after the execution and they found Oswald eating lunch in the building.
Then upstairs in the same building they find his rifle with ammo.
I don't know about all that, but I will say this.
Would assassinate the president and then leave his gun and walk.
seamus coughlin
Well also usually.
ian crossland
He's like what are you doing?
I'm a Patsy.
I'm being a Patsy.
I think he loaned the gun to a group that had been doing some like pro Castro stuff
and they were like hey let us borrow your weapon.
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
Conspiracy.
I don't know about all that but I will say this.
When somebody assassinates a political leader, especially the president of the United States,
they usually make a big deal out of it and tell people what their political demands are.
They leave a manifesto.
Not what happened here.
Very strange.
It's a very unusual situation.
tim pool
I don't think we have the time right now for chats to litigate.
ian crossland
I'd love to see Trump go after the Deep State.
That's my point.
I just don't see it happening, but I'd like to see it happen.
tim pool
Well, I'll just say whatever ends up happening in the future, I hope everybody stays safe.
And I do think, you know, we always need to remember that the honking is working.
Nonviolent civil disobedience is extremely effective.
The establishment politicians are freaking out over the great honking.
And we have a chance with the upcoming primaries to get in a bunch of America, you know, pro-America individuals who push back on the establishment.
I think that should be our focus.
So let's read some more.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, fair enough.
tim pool
All right.
Jay says, the honking reminds me of the hype that came with Untitled Goose Game.
Someone should alter that game's logo to take the circle cross out, fly the honk, and confuse the sheeple.
Have you guys played the Goose Game?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It is one of the best games ever.
You play as a goose, and you just run around causing mischief.
julie kelly
You are a goose?
tim pool
You are a goose.
julie kelly
On what platform?
tim pool
Oh, every platform.
Oh, okay.
julie kelly
I mean, like, it's like a video game?
tim pool
Yeah, it's like an isometric top down.
Yeah.
And there'll be like, it's like a guy and he's farming and you run up and just like honk at him and he gets scared and then he drops his pail or whatever and then you run around.
There's like a little kid and you can chase him honking and the kid's freaking.
It's just so much fun to be the goose.
Honk!
Everyone loves saying honk, too, because honk was already a meme and now people are honking and it's like, honk!
Honk!
seamus coughlin
Honk.
tim pool
Honk.
All right.
Vasht says, I mean, if you want the honking to stop, you just got to stop the mandates.
You don't even got to think about it, bro.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Trust the experts.
You know, the truckers know what should be going in their body.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right, man.
seamus coughlin
I like what you said.
Just comply.
tim pool
Yeah.
Nathan says, heading into work wanted to get a shout out to Anna for our second wedding anniversary.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's lovely.
tim pool
Good for you.
seamus coughlin
Warms my heart.
tim pool
RVDL says, Hornk!
Let's get back to work.
All right.
AWM says, I see Ian rolled a 20 on his first statement.
Oh, I felt that too.
ian crossland
You ever played D&D?
tim pool
Julia, have you played D&D?
No.
julie kelly
No, I'm sorry.
ian crossland
If you roll a 20 on a 20-sided die, it's a critical success.
julie kelly
I'm sorry, no.
I avoided those people.
They were way smarter than I was.
tim pool
In D&D, if you want to do something and you roll a 1, it's like the worst possible failure.
And then if you want to do something and you roll a 20, it's like, you've done it!
Perfect success!
So the joke is Ian made that he often makes statements that are either a 1 or a 20.
julie kelly
Oh, well now you tell me.
ian crossland
I'm all in.
I swing to the fences every night.
julie kelly
Okay, all right.
Now I'm going to have that.
I'm going to say it before we're done.
We're going to get a 1 or a 20.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll hit a 20.
Hit a 20.
julie kelly
Hit a 20 every time.
Can I give a quick shout out to your biggest fan, Liz Scheld, who is also my podcast partner.
We only have a few million less listeners than you do.
But she listens to your show every day, and she told me what I had to wear today.
tim pool
Oh, what, the free The One Sixers?
julie kelly
Yes.
Well, actually, she wanted me to wear an ACDC shirt or Van Halen.
unidentified
Oh, sweet.
julie kelly
I had a Def Leppard one, but I wore this instead.
ian crossland
What's the podcast?
tim pool
What's the show?
julie kelly
It's called Happy Hour with Julie and Liz.
It's just basically to amuse ourselves.
She loves all you guys.
lydia smith
Awesome.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more here.
julie kelly
This is my free promo for her fandom.
tim pool
Right on.
Camel of the Mojave says, Carl Marx got old and acknowledged that capitalism solved all the problems he complained about when he was young and as people not to pay attention to his manifesto.
Is that true?
Sounds like something somebody would say to like smear a person they didn't like.
lydia smith
Don't know.
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
That makes it sound way cooler, to be honest.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It does.
But didn't people, like, say a bunch of stuff about a bunch of figures?
seamus coughlin
Like, well, actually... Deathbed conversion story type things are pretty common.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right.
Cox says, one like equals one honk!
Honk from Saskatchewan!
Stand together and we will free our children.
In the last five months, I have gone out zero times besides work and this.
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
lydia smith
You're here.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Daniel says, Ian's AI Reddit poster idea was a cartoon skit worthy.
ian crossland
That's so funny.
tim pool
There's like one robot, it's like Brainiac from DC who's just like, I will control Reddit to control the world.
ian crossland
It's not far left of me if I need to slide it over.
seamus coughlin
Why would you want to control Reddit?
tim pool
Superman like breaks into Brainiac's headquarters and he's like, Brainiac, what are you doing?
I will control Reddit and take over your planet.
And he's like, no, I can't stop him.
It's working.
All right.
Phil Goen says, Tim, do you recall when activists seized the Canadian railways in 2020?
Reservations were demanding RCMP, not police reserves.
Reservations were demanding RCMP, not police reserves.
But were the upset with lack of policing, look where Trudeau stood.
I'm not sure I'm understanding correctly because of some grammatical issues, but I do remember when there was a big protest with the reservations and all that stuff.
I mean, it's just obvious that there's great double standards here.
I mean, you know, you gotta think about it, bro.
Eric Miller says, look up Mao's great, the great leap forward and compare it to the great reset.
A lot of similarities.
Yeah, they actually, someone pointed out that they're actually calling this year one or whatever.
Like what was that?
Pol Pot year zero or whatever.
People were saying it's like year one, you know, after the pandemic or something.
ian crossland
I was thinking about changing the year to like 13,000 and making zero the day that the comet hit.
What?
12,800 years ago when the comet hit North America?
Which one?
seamus coughlin
There's so many steps ahead of you.
ian crossland
End of the Younger Dryas period?
tim pool
No, which comet was that?
ian crossland
The one that caused the Missoula flood.
tim pool
What's the name of it?
ian crossland
I don't know the name of it.
tim pool
I probably could remember what you're talking about by the name.
I was reading something really cool.
They were saying that gravitational shifts aided in the slamming of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs or whatever.
Crazy stuff.
Who knows though?
We are but small specks on this planet thinking we know so much.
seamus coughlin
Well, I know so much.
I don't know about you guys.
tim pool
That is correct.
Money for what, though?
about the Democrats being desperate. I saw an ad on YouTube today featuring Pelosi begging
for money because Republicans are out raising and outspending Democrats. That is correct.
ian crossland
Money for what though? What are they spending this money on?
julie kelly
Who, Republicans?
ian crossland
Yeah, 1.6 billion, for instance, that Biden raised.
unidentified
Oh, Biden?
tim pool
Yeah, on ads.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
Just TV ads?
tim pool
Ads.
It's mostly advertisements, but there's also consulting.
ian crossland
Consulting, that's where it gets like, it's such trash.
Like, hey, how you doing?
Good.
Thanks for, how are you doing?
Thanks for consulting.
tim pool
Yeah, but political consulting's real.
So they'll call a firm and be like, we're trying to get, you know, middle class white men.
What do we do?
And they'll be like, so we've got data from the past five elections.
Here's what we're seeing.
Here's the media.
And they pay for it.
But a lot of it's ads.
buying advertisements and that's why when Michael Bloomberg was was running it was crazy YouTube ads YouTube ads was just oh everywhere we did a cartoon about that for Freedom Tunes yeah oh that yeah that that was crazy they were really everywhere it was like if you're on YouTube you were like all of a sudden I have a lot more money than I should have had because Michael Bloomberg dumped we're like 500 million dollars it was like 100 million to digital but when it this this this I'll tell you this you guys this election season is going to be so intense 2022 Really?
YouTubers in the political space are probably gonna make like three or four times as much money as they normally do
seamus coughlin
really?
tim pool
Yep, every every ad slot will be filled It's gonna be nuts and then but it's gonna be non-stop for
in the middle of this year We are gonna see political ads like it's it's already gonna
start probably I mean you're talking about Nancy Pelosi already
The midterms are this year So from like this point forward, we're going to see a dramatic increase in revenue for all YouTubers and all websites.
And then 2023 is presidential primary.
And it is so intense right now.
It is going to be, I mean, we're talking about fifth generational warfare.
We're talking about propaganda war.
seamus coughlin
It's going to be crazy.
You know, I was feeling...
ian crossland
Is the people going to be smashing the, getting the silverware and bailing off the Titanic?
That's what that makes me feel like.
People scraping for ad revenue, talking about politics.
julie kelly
Well, because it's not just congressional races.
I mean, you got governor's races in every major state, you know, Midwest and Florida.
I mean, you've got Georgia.
So it's not just those congressional races.
It's, I mean, people are going to be inundated.
I wonder what Republicans are going to spend all that money on, though.
That'll be interesting to watch.
ian crossland
Billboards.
julie kelly
But where?
ian crossland
I mean, Super Bowl commercials.
julie kelly
Just what they're doing, what their message is going to be, where they're going to target it.
That'll be interesting.
tim pool
Man, I don't know.
DBZDragon says, reading constitutional law has taught me one thing.
It is important to read your Bible.
But why is that?
seamus coughlin
Huh.
ian crossland
Why is that?
tim pool
Seamus, do you have any insights on why that might be?
seamus coughlin
With constitutional law?
tim pool
I mean... Why that would lead someone to say, read the Bible?
lydia smith
Yeah, like Blackstone's formulation.
tim pool
That's true.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That was, you know, when I read that, I was kind of like, wow.
lydia smith
Yeah, well, Jordan Peterson talks about how the Bible laid out how it was possible for a slave to have as many rights as a king, which is one of the things that they did put into effect.
This is one of the laws laid out, even in the Old Testament, which Taleb loves to knock.
tim pool
Brian Abides has free honkistan.
Free honkistan.
lydia smith
Honkistan, huh?
unidentified
Honk?
lydia smith
All right.
tim pool
Matthew Hammond says, can we get Mark Levin on to discuss convention of states?
He wrote the book, The Liberty Amendments, that discusses what needs to be passed in a convention of states.
I'd love to.
I mean, he does his own show, but he's on Sundays though, right?
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
I mean, I would be honored.
lydia smith
That'd be great.
tim pool
It'd be an honor and a privilege.
Antonio Gonzalez says, Borg, Bolsheviks operating for repressive governments.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
The Borg.
ian crossland
Aborganization?
That word came into my thoughts the other night.
tim pool
Bobby Bob says the year is 2030.
The resistance is pinned down from over the hill.
Lily Williams appears on horseback, robes flowing in the wind, gold AR held above her head.
Freedom!
She rides down the hill and the battle is won.
Oh my gosh.
But how old is Lily?
It's 2030.
It doesn't matter.
seamus coughlin
It doesn't matter.
No, she will be there.
lydia smith
She is fine.
She's never going to die.
tim pool
I didn't say she wouldn't.
I'm just saying, is it going to be cyborg Lily?
ian crossland
Definitely.
seamus coughlin
Fair enough.
tim pool
She's going to have like a cyborg, you know, she's going to have like a laser gun on her arm and one eye and she's going to be like, I am freedom.
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
Williams.
tim pool
Clint Torres says, go lick a boot.
Now there's a t-shirt.
Go lick a boot for our Canadian friends.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
tim pool
Go lick a boot.
So many good t-shirt ideas.
Maybe we can get a website like, you know, the really bestpoliticalshirts.com.
The second best.
Second, we're not second best.
No, maybe like, even better, politicalshirts.com.
Or like, betterthanthatotherguy'swebsite.com.
lydia smith
That's too long.
tim pool
Betterthantheotherguy'st-shirtwebsite.com.
Tiger says, you wear a mask for so long you forget who you were beneath it.
V. Well, actually, I'm pretty sure that's Alan Moore, but still a good quote.
Molonlave says, it's not just January 6th defendants, it's also a two-way community with arbitrary ATF rule changes.
Guntuber CRS firearms was just arrested and charged with seven felonies for a drawing machine gun and obstruction for getting married.
Please look into it and spread info.
Whoa, that's crazy.
Dude, I'm telling you guys, it is gonna get really, really bad this year.
It's gonna get really, really bad.
They're gonna go after soft targets first.
Easy, you know, political activists, members of the two-way community especially, they're going to do everything they can to try and shut these voices down.
People in media will probably get censored, but it's really, really risky for authoritarians to go after prominent voices because it creates a splash.
And that can create a massive ripple in dissent.
So what they'll do is, when you look at the censorship on Twitter, here's a really easy way to understand this.
All of the regular people with small accounts who are tweeting Learn to Code were getting banned.
When I tweeted Learn to Code, nothing happened.
I tweeted Learn to Code several times, like, let's see it, come on.
They wouldn't take me down for doing that because it would prove everyone right.
But these smaller accounts that didn't have that many followers were disappearing one by one.
And I met a lot of people at these events, they were like, my account's suspended, all I did was tweet Learn to Code.
Because if you don't make a big splash, they'll come after you.
That's the crazy thing.
And what they do is they erode the base.
Then in five years, when the base is substantially weaker, then they can get rid of everyone else.
All right.
Darius says, Tim, I think you may have missed mine, or I missed you talking about mine last time, but look into CRS firearms arrested for selling bottle openers with diagrams of auto sears.
Really?
It's like arresting someone for sharing knowledge.
Crazy.
That's crazy.
That guy says, I can't help but notice that the latest CNN scandal headline repeatedly uses the word consensual.
I guess they're trying to push the new narrative that at least the newest scandal wasn't criminal.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
Yo, how many scandals do they have now?
So many.
That's kind of crazy.
lydia smith
Well, I tweeted that I really thought it would be the lies that took CNN down, but apparently it was going to be a mass inability to keep their freaking pants on.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
lydia smith
Disgusting.
seamus coughlin
Isn't it crazy that far-left people aren't really sexually moral?
I don't know.
unidentified
That's crazy.
tim pool
Hugh says, Long-time listener, Tim.
Love your content.
You help me find meaning in this meaningless world.
Get Kim Iverson on your show.
unidentified
Again?
lydia smith
We love her.
tim pool
We have had her on the show, and I think we're going to have her on the show again, right?
Yep, yep.
She is the moderate lefty person who recently tweeted she's voting straight ticket Republican because she's sick of the mandates, and I'm just like, wow.
There you go, man.
More and more people are like, I am done with this.
lydia smith
We should have her and Batya together.
tim pool
That'd be really cool.
lydia smith
That'd be so great.
tim pool
Super cool.
Artindi says, Hey Tim, I saw Will of the People and it inspired me to turn it into a mini video game.
It can be played for free in browser on itch.io under the same title.
Hope you all enjoy it.
Ooh, you want to check that out, Ian?
Yeah.
Itch.io, Will of the People.
ian crossland
What is it?
Itch.io?
tim pool
Itch.io.
I-T-C-H.
So we're working on a sequel to Will of the People called Pain.
And we have a lot of the instrumentation done already.
I just got the mix and...
I probably shouldn't say it, but I'm just going to say it anyway.
I hit up Phil Labonte and asked him if he wanted to help with the lyrics and the vocals, and he said yes.
So I don't know if he can, though, but that'd be really, really cool.
It would be an honor and a privilege to be able to work on a song with the legendary Phil Labonte.
So that'd be super cool.
It's a video game, you said?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
What do you do in the game?
ian crossland
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just looking at it now.
tim pool
It would be cool if it was a text adventure game.
I like this.
From back in the day.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, like Zork.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right.
Delhiopolis says, Tim, why does your impression of Chris Wallace sound like your impressions of Mitch McConnell?
Because they're both turtles.
They're the same person.
How would you do either of them, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
You know what?
I don't have an impression for either of them, if I'm honest.
unidentified
How could you not?
tim pool
Seamus can't do it.
seamus coughlin
I can't do it.
tim pool
He doesn't have the skills to pay the bills.
seamus coughlin
I have the skills to pay the bills.
I just can't keep giving it away for free.
lydia smith
Oh, that's fair.
tim pool
That's fair.
seamus coughlin
Honestly, I haven't heard either of them speak in a while.
tim pool
They're just turtle voices.
unidentified
They're like turtle boys.
tim pool
I'm Mitch McConnell.
unidentified
Am I not McConnell-y enough for the McConnell Club?
tim pool
To be honest, Chris Wallace is more turtle-y than Mitch McConnell is, but when I do Mitch McConnell, I make him very turtle-y because I have disdain for the man.
Alright, John Whitten says, all they have to do is park the trucks nose to tail, side by side, lock the doors, and walk away.
And it would take the government a month or more to clean up the mess.
Oh, man.
That's no joke, man.
Rob says, did you forget The Rock also commented on Joe's post?
Come on, Timmy.
Yeah, The Rock, man.
It's amazing to see.
That's victory, man.
When The Rock's... What's the saying?
What's The Rock's cooking or whatever?
ian crossland
If you can smell what The Rock is cooking.
tim pool
Yeah, can you smell what The Rock is cooking?
ian crossland
I smell it today, Rocky.
tim pool
Freedom!
I think.
I don't know.
lydia smith
Or he wants to go on the Rogan Experience.
tim pool
No, I think what's happening is these celebrities are relatively vapid individuals, but they're realizing Joe's winning.
And so they're like, yo, I'm gonna be with him.
seamus coughlin
We always loved Joe.
What are you talking about?
tim pool
They're like, if I'm gonna do a new movie, I need to go on his show.
I'm gonna be nice to that guy.
Bon Johnson says, Tulsa, Oklahoma frozen over, and my boss told me the roads were clear.
Saw cars smashing in a divider wall, turned back, I got stuck a mile from our house, currently walking back home and watching the show.
Hey man, don't freeze to death, stay safe.
ian crossland
Try that dragon breath, that Wim Hof method if you need warmth.
tim pool
Is that the secret?
ian crossland
Yeah, sharp inhalation, then a strong exhalation.
unidentified
Breath of fire, yeah.
ian crossland
You do that for like a minute straight and your body temperatures, apparently you go into like a psychedelic trance.
You do it for like six or seven seconds and your body temperature will kick up.
tim pool
Michael Williams Jr.
says, more honk honk talk about American Convoy.
I want to see it!
seamus coughlin
Honk honk!
tim pool
Free hunk hunk.
Click the link in the chat.
Free hunk hunk.
Go to TimCast.com, click the store and get your free hunk hunk shirt.
It's like kind of hard to say if they're really announcing it, otherwise it sounds like you're saying free hunk hunk.
julie kelly
Exactly.
I know that is what I thought you said.
seamus coughlin
Free hunk hunk.
julie kelly
I was like, what's happening in Hong Kong?
What am I missing?
tim pool
Free hunk hunk.
julie kelly
It's gotta be declarative.
seamus coughlin
I got a shout out up there.
tim pool
Where?
seamus coughlin
Someone said Jordan Peterson's the man.
Yes!
Ridiculous said it.
Thank you.
tim pool
It's not obvious.
You know they have that AI that can generate someone's voice?
Like they made one of Joe Rogan.
They took it down.
But that's actually kind of crazy.
If I was someone like Jordan Peterson, I would be really scared of people like Seamus.
Because Seamus could say a bunch of crazy things and then just put it on a video and
claim it was Jordan Peterson.
That's what I do.
seamus coughlin
Everyone would believe it.
unidentified
That's what I do, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Yo, this is...
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Tony says, Dave Portnoy is officially suing Julia Black and Business Insider for defamation in response to the most recent hit piece published today with pen earning call tomorrow.
Dave Portnoy, you're the man.
I wish you, I wish you victory and great fortune in going after, I read that story.
It was absurd.
I heard what Dave said.
Yo, these, these people are unscrupulous.
They publish fake news and defamation and they think they can get away with it. And I'm glad to
see Dave is pushing back. Don't screw around. You know, don't, these people should not be screwing
around. And I hope Dave wins. They smeared him. Uh, it's, it's been a while since I read the
story, but it was just so dumb. They do these things where like someone claimed it was true.
Therefore it is. And then he came out and he was like, Hey, I can rebut this. And they don't take
his comments and stuff like that.
It's all dirty, dirty games, man.
All right, everybody, if you haven't already, smash that like button because one like...
One honk.
seamus coughlin
Honk honk.
tim pool
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Become a member.
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Julie, do you want to shout anything out?
julie kelly
No, just my book.
It's available on Amazon, I think, Barnes & Noble.
My work can be found at amgreatness.com.
And just thank you for having me.
I learned a lot.
So many things, but the goose game for sure.
Top of my list.
Top of my list.
seamus coughlin
She taught us about government interference and FBI.
unidentified
We taught her about a goose game.
julie kelly
Exactly.
unidentified
So thank you guys for having me.
seamus coughlin
Uh, so I'm gonna plug my stuff here.
I guess I have to be careful to make sure this is zany and wacky enough for Tim, who shamed me at the beginning of the show.
tim pool
Hey, be funny!
Shut up and make jokes, Jameis.
seamus coughlin
I have a wacky YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes, and tomorrow we're gonna be uploading a cartoon about Justin Trudeau and the Great Honkening, so stay tuned for that.
YouTube.com slash Freedom Tunes.
Go over there, watch it, like, share, subscribe.
I think you guys are gonna love it.
ian crossland
You can follow me at Iancrossland.net.
Check out my social media there if you want to follow me all around the internet.
Great to see you guys.
Have a great night.
lydia smith
Thank you guys for tuning in.
Thank you, Julie, for coming.
It was a wonderful conversation.
Always good to get experts on breaking news like January 6th hearings.
I am Sour Patchlets on Twitter and Minds.com.
You can follow me at either of those places.
tim pool
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