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Timcast IRL - Now 1,000 Experts Demand Joe Rogan be Censored, Gettr CEO Audio Leaks w/Christian Toto
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tim pool
His name is Robert Paulson.
luke rudkowski
His name was Robert Paulson.
tim pool
Is Robert Paulson.
His name is Robert Paulson.
I made that mistake too.
I typed in the chat first, his name was, and then I looked up to be sure, and it's actually the line is, his name is Robert Paulson.
And of course, that is a tribute to Meatloaf, who passed away.
He was a rad dude.
He was a legendary rock star.
He was in Fight Club, and that was the reference we made to him.
And he was also pro-freedom.
He opposed the mandates.
He opposed mask mandates and vax mandates.
He stood up against them.
Apparently he criticized Greta Thunberg.
I don't know if that matters as much, but I really respect that he, you know, he was an older guy.
He was 74 and he said that he wasn't going to live his life in fear and they shouldn't shut down the world for politics and that's what they're doing.
And I respect that.
And he got seriously ill with COVID.
And that was his choice.
I'm sure you're going to get all those Herman Cain Award people, you know, laughing at him.
But these people don't understand what freedom means.
It means if I want to choose to go bungee jumping, I can choose to go bungee jumping.
There's danger.
If I want to choose to go skydiving and my shoot doesn't happen, well, I made those choices.
And Meatloaf stood up for everyone else's freedom.
He chose it for his freedom and he knew the risks.
So you know what?
Mad respect to Meatloaf.
Sad to see him go, but you know, he was 74.
So we got a bunch of other news too.
We got Joe Rogan, that hoax list where there were like 270 doctors and it turned out to be like 80 doctors and like some dentist or something.
The list is now bigger and now it's a thousand medical and science experts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, we'll talk about that stuff.
We'll talk about culture and censorship.
We've got two really big stories.
Joe Biden has lost another court battle.
A federal judge has struck down the federal worker mandate for vaccines.
And we have a new report from Reuters saying that Prior COVID infection provides better immunity during the... It did provide better immunity during the Delta surge, which we can then take data from that, extrapolate, and apply it to the future.
Seems like Luke was right on this one, and I was wrong, that they're gonna start easing up the mandates, but we'll see.
It's yet to be seen here in the United States, so we'll get into all this stuff.
Joining us today is Christian Toto.
You wanna introduce yourself?
unidentified
Sure.
I'm the editor of HollywoodInToto.com, and my new book is called Virtue Bombs, How Hollywood Got Woke and Lost its Soul.
tim pool
So we can talk a lot about this cultural stuff, particularly.
I think you're an expert on that.
That'll be awesome.
We got Libby Emmons joining us tonight.
libby emmons
Hi, here I am.
I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial.
Glad to be back.
luke rudkowski
And uh, hey guys, my name is Lukardowsky of wearechanged.org and today I am wearing my Make America Florida shirt, which you could get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com, but I'm also wearing it because in a few days from now I will be moving to Miami, Florida and I am extremely appreciative and grateful for all of you amazing human beings a part of this broadcast and podcast.
Hopefully I could come back maybe during Uh, the spring, maybe during the fall.
We'll see, but I want to do a lot of amazing things in Florida.
I want to do some cool projects.
If you guys want to get involved with that, hit me up.
You guys know my contact information and I will definitely miss you guys and the conversations and everything we've been able to achieve here.
It's been a wild ride.
tim pool
It's okay.
You know, Luke got really scared over what's been going on.
unidentified
Hey, no, no, no.
tim pool
He was like, guys, please, I gotta get out of here.
And we were like, come on, Luke, it'll be fine.
luke rudkowski
I was trying to leave for so long, but then the threats came, and then the swatting came.
And I was like, I can't look like a punk.
unidentified
I gotta stay a little bit longer and a little bit longer.
luke rudkowski
But seriously, very appreciative of everybody and everything.
And it's going to be sad to go.
tim pool
We were wrapping up a show, and then Luke goes, I'm going to be leaving right as all these threats are coming in.
People are going to think I'm scared.
luke rudkowski
I can't do that.
unidentified
And then I kept postponing it.
ian crossland
That's part of the nature of Luke.
He migrates with the seasons.
luke rudkowski
I just wanted to clarify, I'm not going out for cigarettes.
ian crossland
Fair warning.
If you guys want us to maybe go down to Florida for a week or so, maybe party with Luke and do a show down there, put a five in the chat.
unidentified
Five.
ian crossland
Put five in the chat for that one.
tim pool
Smash the like button.
unidentified
Smash it!
tim pool
And if we get enough likes, then we'll take the new mobile studio down to Florida and we'll do a show down there for a little bit.
ian crossland
I like the sound of that.
I'm Ian Crossland.
You can follow me at iancrossland.net and I will see you soon.
luke rudkowski
I'm going to make sure to pierce those tires so you guys stay in Florida when you guys get down there because there's a lot of amazing things to do there.
unidentified
Can you send a care package of freedom to Denver for me?
lydia smith
Yeah, I'd love to do that.
tim pool
A care package of freedom?
lydia smith
Yes, that's how it works.
I'm also here pushing buttons in the corner.
Very excited to have Libby back, who's apparently matching Luke as he's about to head off and leave us in the distance.
libby emmons
Yep, I'm also wearing red.
lydia smith
Yes, I'm excited for tonight's conversation.
It's going to be great with Christian and Libby.
tim pool
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But let's get into that first story.
We got a tweet here from NPR.
More than 1,000 scientists and health professionals are calling on Spotify to crack down on COVID falsehoods being spread on Joe Rogan's podcast.
The pressure highlights a trend.
Podcasts are becoming influential sources of misinformation.
I want to pull up the article, but I want to point out the framing technique they pulled off here from NPR.
They didn't say being spread by Joe Rogan.
They said on Joe Rogan's podcast.
What they're saying is Anybody who wants to interview someone who would say something out of line with the official establishment narrative must be stopped.
It's not about Joe Rogan as an individual.
It's about the fact that Joe would talk to someone who is considered persona non grata by the machine.
Now that is a whole new level of creepy.
If they were just saying, Joe has bad ideas.
Well, then you could be like, well, you know, he's not the expert.
He's the guy who interviews a lot of the experts.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
They're talking about the people he hosts and interviews.
They don't like the fact that he gives people an opportunity to speak up.
And I also want to point out the list was originally 270 people and it turned out only 87 were actually met, you know, practiced medicine.
I guess technically you could say veterinarians practice medicine and dentists do too, but some of them were like podcast hosts.
Now the list has expanded.
They say an open letter urging Spotify to crack down on COVID.
Blah, blah, blah.
The medical and scientific experts slammed Rogan's track record of airing false claims.
They go on to say the list has now expanded to 1,000 people.
And you know what?
So what?
They're going after podcasts.
They're mad that this is one of the last bastions of unfettered speech, though there have been podcasts that have been banned.
Here they go.
They did it to YouTube.
They did that big adpocalypse campaign.
The media smeared them relentlessly.
Now they're going to go after all the big podcast platforms.
luke rudkowski
But this is crazy and just absolutely absurd.
I remember seeing the 270 doctors that they first put out, and it was everywhere in the corporate media.
And I was like, let me just take a look at this list.
And I saw dentist, and I saw political professor, and I saw veterinarian, I saw students, I saw political scientists.
And I'm like, wait, wait, What?
You know, these people should be, number one, ashamed of themselves because they should be challenging these ideas, not trying to silence them.
And I made a post about this and it went all throughout Twitter, specifically saying these are not practicing medical doctors.
Now there's a thousand of them.
I haven't checked the list, but I still remember being publicly attacked by a gynecologist on Twitter who was on that list being like, He's calling me out.
He's trying to, you know, blur the lines here.
He's trying to spread misinformation.
No, we're not.
You could counter the information.
You don't have to silence it.
And when you type in Joe Rogan into Google News right now, you get nothing but smear pieces, attack pieces that literally look like they almost come from the Chinese Cultural Revolution with double-speak Orwellian language.
Yahoo News has an article, The Problem with Joe Rogan and White Boys.
The Independent.
These experts say Joe Rogan is an extraordinary, Danger to society.
Here's why.
NPR, of course, has more blamed articles about online misinformation.
Again, counter the data.
Dr. Robert Malone has a lot of credentials.
He listed his credentials.
He is someone who was an extremely important part to this entire process that the world is going through with this larger experiment.
Challenge his ideas.
Don't take out his tongue.
Because when you do that, you prove him right.
tim pool
Look at this one from NJ.com.
The long list of things I will not be asking Joe Rogan for advice about.
And it's got Fauci.
He says, I've been an infectious disease expert for 50 years.
And then Joe Rogan saying, I get kicked in the head for fun.
Yeah.
Okay.
ian crossland
Not anymore.
He quit kickboxing.
tim pool
But it's just so stupid.
Anybody who's ever actually listened to his show know that he's an inquisitive guy who asks questions of experts.
That's it.
If they really wanted to play games, they could show Fauci and then they could show Peter McCullough or Dr. Robert Malone.
That would be really interesting.
Fauci would be like, I'm a bureaucrat of the past 40 years.
And Malone would be like, I invented mRNA vaccines.
How about that one?
But they shut down Malone.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's another thing about this though, which is, this is what happens to any new media.
You remember the blogosphere?
Do you guys remember the blogosphere?
I remember the blogosphere.
Yeah, so this was like, it was a while, it was like the, in the early 2000s, all of these blogs were popping up and people were getting their news from blogs.
And so you had mainstream media outlets, corporate media outlets slamming the blogosphere, like I believe the press secretary at the White House actually used that term.
Saying, you know, you can't trust these sources.
These are terrible sources.
That's exactly what they're doing now to podcasters.
They don't like anyone that gets more popular than their own, you know, corporate media outlets.
That's why, you know, that's why it's so important.
unidentified
Wasn't PJ Media like pajamas media?
Wasn't that the slam against the bloggers?
Like they were just in their pajamas at home and that's why you can't trust them.
Right.
And they could have embraced it.
tim pool
I'm not joking.
unidentified
It's real.
Those were terrifying photos.
ian crossland
I no longer wear pajamas personally.
unidentified
I cover late night TV, and late night TV gets so many facts wrong on such a consistent basis.
Where are the lineup of doctors saying that Stephen Colbert is full of it?
Where are they?
tim pool
Did you see Colbert call for abolishing the Senate?
ian crossland
Yeah, that was weird.
tim pool
He was like, what's the point?
He's like, the Democrats represent more people, and it's like, represent does not mean they agree with them.
That's, that's, that's, it's just, it's fascinating.
They don't like their, their machine being challenged.
That's, that's the obvious point.
But they're losing.
And that's why I love the Joe Rogan subject matter, because Joe's winning and doesn't care.
You know what's really funny?
I feel like Joe's sitting on the throne of Biggest Podcast, doing his thing, and then mainstream media and us are just down on the ground bickering to each other and complaining about it, and Joe just doesn't care.
unidentified
How long will Spotify have its back, though?
I think that's the big question.
tim pool
Uh, what's two years?
I think that'll be average age of, of, of contracts, you know, and then once it's up, they're going to be like, but, uh, I actually be making a lot of money from him though.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
The company was valued over a billion dollars.
libby emmons
The stock skyrocketed as soon as he came on the platform.
tim pool
Yeah, I was kind of bummed because, you know, I was like, when I knew that the shift was going to be happening, I was like, man, I should have bought all that Spotify stuff.
Because it just skyrocketed.
I didn't even think about it, to be honest.
ian crossland
In reference to Stephen Colbert saying that we should abolish the Senate or whatever he was saying, it was weird because he was like, the Senate is the most anti-democratic thing.
But what he doesn't seem to understand is we're not a democracy.
We're a democratic republic.
And the Senate is the essence of the republic.
It's a stopgap for democratic mob mentality.
tim pool
Stephen Colbert is Emperor Palpatine.
That's giving him too much credit though.
unidentified
But not as funny as the Emperor.
tim pool
Right.
It would have been funnier if when he called for abolishing the Senate, he just like his voice changed.
He'll be dissolving the Galactic Senate!
I mean the Federal Republic Senate.
luke rudkowski
He's the jester.
Klaus Schwab is the real Emperor Palpatine in my opinion with everything he's been pushing forward with the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset.
But again, Joe Rogan is as popular as he is because he comes off as very genuine, very honest.
He has conversations that a lot of people are afraid to even think about.
And he entertains ideas in a way that's not forced upon you, in a way that is naturally understood and just talked about in a rational way, rather than, of course, PR corporate talking points.
And that's why he is where he is right now.
tim pool
I think Joe represents a regular person.
Fauci does not.
For the longest time, there's been this conversation around like citizen journalists, and it's
unidentified
No.
tim pool
really funny because people don't know what it means.
Citizen journalism referenced somebody would be walking their dog and then see something
happen and then film it.
And that's what it means.
You're a citizen who happens to commit an act of journalism, but people who specifically
try to engage in journalism are not citizen journalists.
But the conversation around that was basically, why should we trust these individuals?
And a lot of people said, well, look, the suit on TV talking to you as the authority
doesn't work anymore.
People have trust in themselves, and they want to talk to trusted people.
They don't trust foreign, you know, like.
Outside of their life, I mean.
Kind of establishment elites.
They want a regular person they can feel like their neighbor who can talk to them.
So Fauci represents the establishment elite of, we're smarter than you and we know it.
And Joe represents, hey man, don't listen to me, I'm an idiot, but I just got some questions.
libby emmons
But there was this great clip going around, I think James Lindsay shared it, from the World Economic Forum in November, and it was this lady talking about how the elites all are banding together internationally and are working together to get their agenda across, but that in each country individually, the lower classes don't trust the elites.
She was talking about this as though this is some big problem.
The rest of us don't trust our elites, you know.
We don't trust these people who are telling us what to do based on their own international conglomeration of, you know, ideology and wealth hoarding.
tim pool
Real quick, I hate the elites.
Not every single person, you know, it's not absolute, but just like Fauci and Biden and the
Uniparty and Mitch McConnell's in there, these establishment, these ultra wealthy, I just...
luke rudkowski
I'm dying to say something because they're literally calling themselves the elites.
unidentified
I love that.
They're like, we're the elites. Our pack got closer.
luke rudkowski
We're a lot closer, but everyone else doesn't like us.
Gee, you wonder why, as of course we literally went through an entire situation.
Why are you putting that madman in front of me?
Dead dog torturer.
I don't want to be seen with that man.
But they are literally in a situation where they have profited off tremendously off of this entire pandemic.
They have created a situation where the rich are becoming richer than they ever have before, and they wonder, Why don't they trust us?
And of course, their circle got tighter.
And what's really surprising about the World Economic Forum, they literally put out all of their plans right in front of you.
They write about it.
They boast about it.
libby emmons
They said it straight out.
They discussed the Great Reset in detail.
And then as soon as we all started writing about like, oh, y'all, have you seen this plan?
This is crazy plan.
The fact checkers swooped in and started saying that this wasn't actually real.
And it's like, look at this!
luke rudkowski
They literally just reverted New World Order into the Great Reset.
That's exactly what it is.
Let's be honest with it.
libby emmons
And they figured we'd all be such plebs that we wouldn't actually notice.
We can't actually read.
luke rudkowski
They rebranded the New World Order and still put out all of their documents.
libby emmons
We're like the medieval Catholics who don't understand Latin.
unidentified
No!
libby emmons
We know what it says.
luke rudkowski
They literally try to make You eat bugs!
There's like short little videos that they put out on Twitter saying eating bugs is going to be great and save the world!
tim pool
So check this out, check this out.
On January 20th, I was on Twitter and the What's Happening page popped up with, The Great Reset is the World Economic Forum's proposal for post-COVID economic recovery, Reuters and the BBC report.
And I just screen-grabbed it and put LOL.
I thought it was funny.
They keep trying to do this thing where they're like, the Great Reset, it's just this, it's just that.
The funny thing is, it reminds me of when Hillary Clinton was campaigning and she put on a Southern drawl when she did.
And like, she didn't realize the internet existed and that human beings talk to each other.
unidentified
It's pretty old.
tim pool
So what's fascinating about the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum, the Davos Group, is I feel like it's a bunch of 80-year-olds who are like, how are people finding out about our plan, the Great great reset. It's like have those social media, what just
tell everyone what to believe. And then regular people look at it and go, yeah, that's, that's
BS. Like we're not cows or you know what I mean? We don't, we don't just get told
something and go, Oh, but it really, it really is it when Hillary Clinton put, she put on that
Southern dialect because she thought she was going to trick people into thinking that
she was from the South or whatever.
I get it.
She is.
But she doesn't talk that way.
She was a New York senator.
And then the video goes viral and everyone made fun of her and laughed.
And then she was like, how did I lose?
luke rudkowski
It's humorous and elitist thinking that they're above everyone else and therefore they could get away with it.
This is why the Pope, Trudeau, Macron, Biden, Kamala, all the world leaders have been saying the same thing.
We need a great reset.
We need to build back better.
They slowly and calmly tell you that this is their plan openly, and you're deemed a conspiracy theorist for even bringing it up and talking about it when their plans are laid out and they're implementing it right in front of our eyes.
There's no hiding it.
It's right here.
libby emmons
Yeah, what they mean is we need to solidify our power.
Exactly.
That's what they mean.
unidentified
I want to give them some credit.
There's so little self-awareness in our culture these days.
Calling themselves the elite.
I'm very impressed by that.
That is cool.
ian crossland
Someone referred to them as elitist.
Was that you?
I wasn't there, but they were like, based, Tim, calling them elitist and not elite.
But I wasn't there if he said that.
tim pool
But it was, the video is actually really funny when this woman, where was she?
At the World Economic Forum?
And she's like the elites.
She's like referring to herself in that way.
And it's just like, there's one way not to endure yourself in regular people.
unidentified
Then she opened up her blouse and there was an E on there.
tim pool
It's like a Globo gym from Dodgeball.
We're better than you!
lydia smith
And we know it!
ian crossland
I saw a tweet from Clint Russell, Liberty Lockpot, if you'd stop referring to yourself as our elites I'd hate you at least 10% less.
And I was like, how bad could it be?
It was worse than I thought it was going to be.
tim pool
You know, it's funny though, I feel like It's the children of the previous generation's elites.
And they say that, you know, wealth only lasts a few generations.
So you end up with these, like, the robber barons and stuff.
And then over time, they have kids who have kids.
And now we have this global elite that are kind of like the inbred royalty who don't really know how to run a system.
So they've inherited all of this.
They never earned it.
They never fought for it.
And it's like they're going through their own fourth turning.
Where the great-grandchildren of these past billionaires and millionaires and powerful royals and politicos have no idea what they're doing, but they just know they're better than you.
libby emmons
I think we have to really realize that nobody really knows what they're doing.
I went to prep school with a lot of really smart people who have no idea what they're doing, and they're running the country now.
lydia smith
That's terrible.
ian crossland
What's the point of being here anyway, being a human?
I still don't know.
tim pool
That was a huge leap, Ian.
It's like, there's problems with our country.
Why am I alive?
ian crossland
I know survival is like part of it, but other than that, what's the point?
tim pool
I mean, this is why, you know, a lot of people say that religion is very necessary to a culture, to a society, because there are a lot of people right now that have no purpose, and they're asking the same question you are, but They're being given answers by the elites who want to control and shape everything, and so they're telling them things.
They're telling them crazy things.
And then when these people go out and riot and burn things down, they're protected.
So they've found their meaning.
They've found their purpose.
But, you know, the crazy thing about it, they have their purported purpose.
You know, with these Black Lives Matter groups or Antifa, we've got to fight against oppression.
I'm concerned about the kids wearing masks, talking about a lost generation.
yourself what's next? What's after that? What do you do? It's like these
individuals are just lost, a lost generation, and that's where the chaos is
coming from, but it's being weaponized by the elites who want to dramatically
ian crossland
reshape the planet. I'm concerned about the kids wearing masks talking about a
lost generation because if I'd been raised not seeing facial expression that
would have been a hard thing to navigate. I know and you're bad enough.
I know!
I'm already semi-weird.
luke rudkowski
But Ian, the elites want to party in a way where their servants are clearly marked and masked and represented by, of course, the face diapers that they wear.
While, of course, the ruling elites get to have their galas and their lovely red carpets where they get to be free and not have to wear face diapers.
libby emmons
Well, Christian and I were just talking about this because both of us have, you know, send our kids to school and the kids are fully masked.
unidentified
That's crazy.
Outdoors too.
I have to actually tell my kid, I do this waving of the face as soon as I see him.
Take the mask off.
Me too.
Adam Corolla has a theory about this.
He says it's crate training.
You're crate training the young kids to kind of obey.
I'm not going to screw with that.
Give me something else.
libby emmons
When we get to school in the morning, you know, I say to my son, like, yeah, you know, you got to put your thing and he's like, okay, time for my complicity covering.
You know, we joke about it because I want him to know that it's stupid the whole time.
I want him to fully be aware of how stupid it is every second that he's wearing it.
And yeah, as soon as he's done with school, I'm like, get that stupid thing off your face.
luke rudkowski
A couple days ago, I posted a meme of, you know, students that were told to be six feet apart.
There was a police officer looking over them.
They were outside with a mask.
And then the tagline was like, this is how you make someone a slave.
This is how you raise someone not to think independently, how to literally act like they're in prisons.
And that's what they're doing in schools.
I would absolutely recommend for you guys to try to do anything you can.
I mean, both of you guys are in New York City.
libby emmons
No, no.
unidentified
I'm in Denver.
luke rudkowski
But there's probably other families that feel like you that would want to create a homeschooling pod network that would actually help your kids so much more.
Because I feel so bad for these kids that have to go through this.
tim pool
But you know what really bothers me?
We used to see people from Southeast Asia, they wear masks when they're sick.
And I'm like, I like that idea.
If you're sick and you know it, and you have to go out and do stuff, you wear a mask.
Now the problem I see is people aren't sick, but they're all just blindly doing this thing.
And then what that creates is it polarizes.
We have a hyperpolarization now where there are people who are overtly anti-mask.
And I'm just like, yo man, if you get sick, you put a mask on.
If you're not sick, you don't, I guess.
But we're struggling to have the nuanced conversations about what makes sense.
Anybody who questions the mandate, for instance, on vaccines is anti-vaxxer.
When, like, clearly everybody is pro-vaccine, you know, except for, like, there's many people who aren't.
But there are people who have specific questions about something specific.
The nuance is stripped out of it.
And I think it's on purpose.
Oh, yeah.
They want to make you an extremist.
You say, hey, this policy for kids is dumb.
Well, then you're a you're a dumb redneck anti-masker.
libby emmons
But here's the thing about making you an extremist, right?
I mean, you have the Biden administration going after domestic terrorists, right?
They made this their like a big Department of Justice thing.
And when you look at what they're going after, they're saying that if you are anti-government
or anti-authority, then you are some sort of extremist.
These are the terms that are being used, anti-government, anti-authority, extremist.
I saw a bunch of things that were like white supremacist, anti-government extremist.
And it's like, what is this about?
OK, so white supremacy, that's bad.
Sure, obviously.
Anti-government?
So if you're opposed to the existing power structure, that makes you some sort of extremist?
unidentified
Remember Resist, which erupted in 2017?
It was pretty cool and pretty mainstream.
libby emmons
Yeah, you had to resist everything the man said for four years.
And you weren't supposed to look into the policies.
You weren't supposed to understand what was being proposed.
unidentified
Last time I checked, he was in the government.
libby emmons
Yes, and you were just supposed to be entirely opposed.
tim pool
You see that story about the guy who needed a kidney and because he didn't get vaxxed that they told him, like, guess you'll die.
That was the craziest thing.
You know, I was just like this, the lady on the phone, pure evil, like evil incarnate.
You thought it was going to be like a giant demonic man with horns and a business suit being like, I am the antichrist.
No, it's the lady at the hospital who's like, I know you need a heart, but for reasons we don't care why, you know, you decided not to get the vaccine.
So you'll die now.
luke rudkowski
It's like, Or that lady in Texas who the guy was recording saying, you don't qualify to take this vaccine.
Sorry, sorry, not this vaccine.
You don't qualify for this antibody treatment because of, you know, the race, ethnicity.
tim pool
And then the media claimed it wasn't true.
unidentified
That's true in like half a dozen states.
libby emmons
And it was part of the part of the FDA directive, I believe.
One thing I loved was Maud Marin in New York.
She was running for city council but she recently posted on Twitter she was having some design work done in her house and an architect showed up to her house and asked her to wear a mask and Maud said no and you're fired.
Get out of my house.
We're done here.
You know I wouldn't want that person working on my house either.
tim pool
People have lost it, man.
ian crossland
You brought up that Department of Justice statement.
I saw James Lindsay and Joe Rogan talking about it.
It was kind of convoluted in like two paragraphs.
Have you seen that, Tim?
Do you know what she's talking about?
libby emmons
The Department of Justice?
Let me pull it up.
ian crossland
It's like a statement defining who now is considered dangerous.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they said, like, anti-capitalists.
And then, yeah, I think Glenn Greenwald tweeted something.
It's actually a while ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so they were like, hey, Left, you've all cheered for this and celebrated.
It's you!
And then they posted the list, and it was like, anarchists and anti-capitalists, you know, are considered violent, dangerous extremists.
And then there's, like, patriots or whatever.
So it's like, yo, look, man, they may like the fact that they can use Antifa as useful idiots to wreak havoc and cause panic and destroy things, and they can rebuild.
But, rest assured, they will come for Antifa when it becomes convenient for them or when Antifa is truly inconvenient.
luke rudkowski
Or when they're done with them.
When they fulfill their agenda, when they got rid of everything else, they're going to be looking like the nail for the hammer that they created.
It's only a matter of time and the deep intelligence state has the information, is track tracing and databasing all of these people.
We learned that they even have drones that they're flying over protests.
They have dragnet surveillance telephone technology that literally gets all the information from people's phones at protests They have all of their data.
They have all of their information.
They have all of their networks and Why wouldn't they be collecting it when of course you have the state that that throughout history?
libby emmons
Yeah, so it was a it was a testimony before the Senate and it was I think Matthew Olson who is the Assistant Attorney General perhaps He said domestic violent extremists are often motivated by ideology and personal grievances.
We've seen a growing threat from those who are motivated by racial animus as well as those who ascribe to anti-government, anti-authority ideologies.
Anti-authority.
Which is kind of the basis for the entire United States.
We are anti-authority.
That's like half our deal at least.
unidentified
Weren't the Ghostbusters anti-authority, too?
tim pool
Yeah, for sure.
But is Antifa pro-authority?
I mean, I would say yes.
But do they think they are?
So are they listening to that going like, hey, we're cool?
libby emmons
And he also said today, investigating and prosecuting domestic violent extremists is one of our top priorities on the front lines.
lydia smith
This is only because there aren't enough white nationalists and white supremacists.
unidentified
They have to cast them that way.
lydia smith
They've got a short supply, sadly.
Yeah, it has to be everything.
It has to be whatever they can find.
luke rudkowski
They have a budget for arresting dissent that are going to need some dissent.
lydia smith
That's right, they've got to meet the budget.
ian crossland
At some point in there, they said, like, if you want to criticize the government, it may not be considered terrorism because it's considered First Amendment protection.
The word may.
It may not be considered terrorism.
That was very confusing.
tim pool
My friends, in 20 years, everyone's gonna be like four and a half feet tall, androgynous, holding hands with squeaky voices, and that's gonna be humanity, because like, they're just shaving off the tall grass.
Everyone, it's like, it's eroding so quickly.
You know, people don't realize this, but there's been several cases that I've tweeted about, talked about, where people have been charged with hate crimes for speech, or for like, bordering on speech, you know.
There was a one case where someone took a pride flag and then I guess they like burned it and threw it in front of a gay bar and said, oh, that was that was hateful harassment or something like that.
And it's like nobody was no one was there.
No one watched it happen.
Nobody was directly harmed by it.
It's kind of a dick move in my opinion.
The guy got charged with a hate crime for doing it.
I'm like, that's kind of crazy.
You know what I mean?
But that's that's where we're moving and we're getting there was a Two people were on the New York train, the Long Island Railroad, and they were shouting things about foreigners and then threw a beer can at someone and they went, Aha!
Throwing that beer can and saying that?
Now it's a hate crime!
And you get a very serious charge for that.
So they're starting to incorporate hate speech into making it illegal.
And a lot of people 10 years ago were saying that the goal of the left is to make it so hate speech would be completely illegal.
There are many proponents who have pushed saying that it should be illegal and now we're seeing aggravated charges on people for, you know, speaking things that are offensive.
libby emmons
It has to be associated with a crime though in the U.S.
unidentified
whereas in other countries like in Canada... What was the crime of throwing a rainbow flag in front of a bar?
libby emmons
Well, they have to call it a crime of some sort.
tim pool
Right, but like... Arson?
unidentified
Burning property?
tim pool
But it was their property.
It was someone bought a flag, burned it in front of a building, and they said it was like harassment.
So they make up the crime to fit how they can turn it into hate speech or something.
luke rudkowski
And what's happening in Canada and the UK already with these existing laws is so worrying.
I remember walking around in the United Kingdom doing interviews about English people not having the First Amendment, would they want the First Amendment?
And I ran into a person who had his whole life ruined, was thrown in jail, had to face court proceedings because he called someone a bloke.
And this person that he called a bloke was someone that identified as something else, but because he did it offhandedly, he literally was sent to jail.
tim pool
Shout out to Zuby!
libby emmons
That's happened to a bunch of people.
tim pool
Shout out to Zuby who said, okay dude.
It was okay dude, right?
That's what he said.
And he got suspended on Twitter for saying it.
libby emmons
Or Megan Murphy who said that Jessica Yaniv was him.
You know, she, I think she got banned for saying, yeah, him.
That was her whole tweet.
ian crossland
Shout out to Zuby for getting his visa, American visa.
He's going to be around a lot more now.
Nice job, dude.
unidentified
Sorry to derail the conversation.
I missed the ACLU 1.0.
That's what we needed.
libby emmons
I missed that too.
ian crossland
What happened?
A change of leadership?
tim pool
I can tell you what happened.
So when Donald Trump got elected, they made a ton of money off of the Muslim ban, as it was called.
Now, it included Venezuela, you know, and some other countries, but, you know, the left called the Muslim ban.
And the ACLU said, Trump, you can't do this.
It's unconstitutional.
The interesting thing was that the banning of travel from these countries is actually advice from the Obama administration, but that doesn't matter.
So everybody protests.
The ACLU announces they're filing a lawsuit to stop this.
And then all the leftists are like, yeah!
And they sign up for the ACLU.
And the ACLU is like, we're making bank, baby!
And then Charlottesville happened.
And the ACLU defended the right to organize.
And then everyone said, you made this happen.
You defended it.
And they were like, but we've always defended free speech for everyone.
And the left started canceling in droves.
So they came out and said, we're going to reassess what free speech means.
And now the ACLU is the anti-civil liberties union, because in many, many cases, they have come out overtly against civil rights.
And I'm not exaggerating.
libby emmons
They sure have, over and over again.
tim pool
It's crazy.
libby emmons
I was shocked.
But didn't they complain this week about...
unidentified
Hey, money talks, baby.
There was some sort of transparency, educational policy that was discussed.
libby emmons
Oh, this is a great idea, this transparency in education.
unidentified
Right, and they were against it.
libby emmons
Yeah.
So he was against it.
But here's the thing about this.
So education is now a national issue.
That's what the left wanted this whole time.
They got it.
Parents are super involved in kids' education.
That's what the left has wanted this whole time.
Parents are saying, let's have transparency.
Let's see what the syllabus is.
That's all it is.
Let's see what the syllabus is before the year starts.
That way we know what's going on.
That way we can help our kids.
We can know what's happening in their classroom.
We can know what they're learning.
And for some reason the teachers unions are all against this.
They've been demanding for decades, parents we need more parental involvement.
And now parents are like, hi!
We're here!
We'd really like to be involved!
And they're all just like, you know what?
You know, back off.
Okay?
That's just not safe for your kids.
It's just not okay.
Parents do not have a right to be involved.
unidentified
And we all know why.
tim pool
Leftists don't have kids.
They have yours.
libby emmons
Right.
Like the, what is it?
Melissa Harris Perry?
Did you guys see that?
unidentified
That was an older clip that resurfaced. I think I'm still chilling. It's crazy. She was saying basically the kids are
libby emmons
not yours What's the exact saying kids are not yours?
They belong to all of us and we need to stop thinking that kids belong to their parents
tim pool
You ever see that communist?
libby emmons
You know who kids belong to their parents Especially when they get hurt or any decisions need to be
made But they need to be indoctrinated then they belong to
tim pool
everybody ever seen that meme where it's like It's the Drake meme where it's my and our and and so it
like it shows shows him like going like that It'll say like, you know my car and then under it says our
car and he's like, yeah, so it's like my kids No our kids. All right
I love my favorite one was our little pony 20.
And like they put a sickle and hammer next to it and everything.
Yo, these people, I don't know if communist is the right word.
No, it's not.
Look, what people need to understand about fascism and communism is that these were ideologies of the early 1900s.
We're in a new digital information age and what we're experiencing is something different.
Maybe you can call it techno-communism or, you know, tech authoritarianism or something, but it needs a new word.
ian crossland
Yeah, this is another thing James and Joe were talking about, and I promise I'm not going to keep bringing it up, but watch that episode if you haven't seen it yet, about how it's like fascism and communism blended, and it's 21st century, it's new.
What Klaus Schwab's trying to do with blending corporations and governments together is basically the definition of Mussolini's fascism, that's what he called it.
But it's so different now that they can spy on everything and cut off bank accounts globally that it's another kind of techno threat.
tim pool
It's not necessarily communism.
It's not necessarily fascism.
It is authoritarian.
But the thing about fascism is that it was cultural enforcement.
Communism was just, they just took over and they'd point guns at you.
It was much more authoritarian and they would steal food and it was just like...
The whole system was one thing.
With fascism, basically, I was reading this article about how the Nazis weren't really socialists, but kind of were, because people often say, oh, it means national socialist.
What would happen is that they would go to a factory and say, are you producing for the war effort?
And if the guy at the factory said, no, we're producing for demand, they'd be like, why do you oppose our efforts?
And they'd be like, no, no, no, we'll do it.
Basically cancel culture.
The idea that if you didn't fall in line with cultural enforcement, and cultural enforcement is more powerful than government.
So that's the thing about, you know, the fascistic method.
Now, I guess back then, there was a big dividing ideology.
The communists wanted to erase culture.
They wanted to purge it and wipe it clean.
And the fascists want traditionalism.
So what we're seeing today is techno-authoritarian communism, or whatever you'd call it.
ian crossland
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
It all boils down to the evils of centralization and the idea that you could control people from top down.
That idea, I think, is one of the most destructive ideas throughout all of human history and whatever you label it, whatever you call it, it goes against the basic principles of free humanity and that, of course, is liberty.
And decentralization.
Decentralization right now, if you look at a lot of problems in this world, could solve all of them in an extensive way that would reduce a lot of harm and help a lot of people out because it would stop the bastardization of power that absolutely corrupts individuals.
I think that's one way that we should start framing it and looking at it because, you know, to have this larger idea that that one person, one king should control your life and your existence has already fallen by the wayside.
Now, another idea that hopefully progressively is going to be destroyed is that a president or an autocrat or a corporate head is going to be controlling your life.
And I think the more we move away from those ideas, the more we move towards freedom, the more humans will prosper and grow.
tim pool
I got it.
Hear me out.
What if you run for president and when you win, you get four years, you can run again for a second term.
And if you lose or you complete a second term, we execute you.
Logan's run secret, but but anybody who wants to be president knows that they're not going to actually be Benefited in the long term that this is the end you've decided because you you know Then you get someone who's in their 60s, and they're like I've lived a long life I have some ideas, and I think this is the end for me I'm gonna do a bunch of things that I think will make everything better for you, and then I'm out I'm actually I'm actually kidding.
I don't really think we should execute people who, you know, I said.
libby emmons
It's like a Star Trek episode where the guy who played, uh, the guy who played Winchester
on MASH ends up falling in love with, uh, Deanna Troi's mom.
Do you remember that one?
tim pool
That's right.
And then it's a society where at a certain age they just kill you.
libby emmons
They just kill you.
Yeah.
unidentified
They have a big party.
Or just like take all their money away.
When you get out of the White House, you're broke.
You're broke.
tim pool
You can't make any money.
Yeah, actually, actually, maybe, maybe what we do is as soon as you leave any public office,
we'll do term limits.
So every office will have like a year base.
So like in Congress, it's two years.
So okay, you can run four times.
The Senate, you can run twice.
It's still kind of long.
You'll get 12 years.
And then the presidency is two.
And once you're done, you lose all your possessions, you get a white jumpsuit, and you go to the island.
And then you just live in a community of people who are past civic leaders and you can never leave and you've chosen it.
ian crossland
The problem with having four two-year term limits is that they'll spend every year running for the next term and waste all that time.
libby emmons
Right, it's like Congress.
tim pool
No, but if you lose, you go to the island.
unidentified
And on that island, Jimmy Carter builds all the houses.
tim pool
That's right.
No, no, so Ian, listen.
If you run for Congress and win, you're in for two years, and then you're like, I'm gonna run again, and then you lose to the island.
ian crossland
But I mean, I don't want them to spend any time while they're in office worrying about a re-election.
I want them to be in, run their term, and then be gone.
tim pool
So two terms.
ian crossland
Like one eight-year term.
Is that too much years to give somebody?
tim pool
Oh, that's a good point.
That's a good amount.
One four-year term.
ian crossland
Or maybe two four-year terms.
One re-election.
But they'll spend two years prepping their re-election.
tim pool
No, but Congress is two years.
So giving Congress four years and two terms, and then once you're done, the island.
luke rudkowski
You know what I want to point out about- And there's internet there, so you can play Fortnite and the kids can talk about- Another possibility is to elect our pets to be politicians, and I bet they would probably do a better job than all the politicians right now.
ian crossland
Caligula did that with his horse, didn't he?
luke rudkowski
Yes, there you go.
ian crossland
Caligula, one of the crazy Roman emperors, inbred young gentleman, made his horse a counselor, I believe.
luke rudkowski
And there's a small town, I believe in Alaska, that elected a cat to be their mayor.
unidentified
Oh, really?
ian crossland
Yeah, when I was thinking about how the Nazis would go to these corporations and be like, are you with us?
And then they're like, no.
And then like, then you're against us.
There's the nuance in society, I think that's been lost or overlooked lately, that you don't have to be for or against something, you can be neutral.
And that's usually you are.
99.999% of the time, people are neutral to the environment.
It's only you don't have to take a side.
Live like that.
Make sure you live like that.
Don't let it polarize.
tim pool
You know, so I tweeted a joke about capitalism today.
I said, capitalism was too successful.
unidentified
We have fat homeless people.
tim pool
So there's several different layers to this joke.
And I felt like it would play well with everyone.
For people who are pro-capitalist, they'd be like, wow, even our homeless people are eating too much.
For the communists and the left, they're supposed to be like, people who eat too much still don't have homes.
Like, it's supposed to play both ways, but it's only the left who gets mad about it.
The right just laughs, and they're like, whatever.
And the left is, like, offended.
And I tweeted, it's what I call bugs bunnying, where you can make a statement that should be something they'll support, but they'll criticize, so you can prove that they're principally bankrupt.
They don't actually believe what they believe.
They don't actually care about these things.
They just want to hate another group.
And I think that proves it.
I've made several statements, you know, like I think the Carhartt one, when the Carhartt boycott happened, I said, here's something, if you don't want to get vaccinated, you work at Carhartt, quit.
And I got criticized by the left for saying that.
And I'm like, shouldn't you agree with me on that?
And actually a lot of people tweeted, they were like, but you know, why are you criticizing him?
He's right.
Just quit then, if you don't want to work there.
Yeah, well, it's because it's not about principles.
It's about being part of a tribe that hates another tribe.
Their identity is based on hate, that's it.
And there's people on the right who are like that for sure, but it seems to be the rule on the left.
ian crossland
You're in like, like you said, Twitter, I think the other day, 2% of Americans are on Twitter.
tim pool
And you're active on Twitter.
ian crossland
And you're like in it.
So you're looking at these crazy, crazy minority.
And it's like, Oh, absolutely.
It's got to be loud for you.
luke rudkowski
And what the algorithms want you to see.
Someone left a very good comment saying that the politicians usually do go to an island after they become a politician.
unidentified
And that, of course, is Epstein's Island.
luke rudkowski
So shout out to the person who made that comment.
tim pool
Let me pull up this story here we got from the post-millennial.
lydia smith
Oh my!
tim pool
Joe Rogan and James Lindsay point out how the left smears everyone they disagree with as alt-right.
On the latest episode of the podcast, Joe Rogan spoke with James Lindsay about why so many people are deemed alt-right by the left.
And, uh, the story's about me!
So, uh, special thanks to James and Joe.
Because I don't even think they were necessarily defending me, just pointing out facts.
Just denying this.
What happened was, this guy Josh Zeps, who is a statist propagandist in Australia, who really doesn't like me because I've criticized their country, and he makes things up, and boy is he triggered by me.
He said, you know, oh, Tim Pool says these things and blah blah blah.
And then a few seconds later goes, so these alt-right guys who are, you know, saying this stuff, and then Joe cuts him off and he's like, Tim Pool's not alt-right.
You can't just say that, man.
That's not true.
And he's like, well, I didn't mean, I mean, and then he says, I don't think Majid Nawaz is alt-right.
I know him, but Tim Pool, So Joe Rogan's talking to James, and they end up bringing me up specifically, and Joe's like, I know Tim very well.
He's like a centrist.
He was a boots-on-the-ground guy for Vice.
And then James is like, yeah, he was in Occupy.
So this is what I think is... It shows the lies.
It's obvious they're lying.
One of the most powerful media...
shows in the world, Joe Rogan's show, is outright just with no remorse calling out the lies.
I think this is a good example of the narrative is breaking before our eyes.
I know there's a lot of reasons why we said the narrative is breaking, but here's another
really good one.
It involves me, so obviously I wanted to highlight it and say thank you to Joe for just being honest and talking about my views and everything.
But who's gonna believe this anymore?
ian crossland
Well, I was thinking maybe this is alt-right in the sense that it's alternative to the polarized right.
It's more of a center.
tim pool
Alt-right means white nationalist.
ian crossland
That's the problem with the phrase.
It shouldn't mean that it's further right than people on the right.
It's just an alternative to weird Polarized politics.
tim pool
That's literally not the case.
ian crossland
It just crossed my mind a couple weeks ago.
tim pool
The Associated Press put out a statement years ago saying the alt-right group that coined the term specifically referenced white nationalist ideology.
That's where the term came from.
That's what it represents.
That's why the left will try to passively smear everyone as alt-right so they can then add to your Wikipedia page something like Ian's been called alt-right.
Then another outlet will say, many news organizations have noted that Ian, who's considered alt-right, and then eventually they can just say Ian is alt-right, then they can then say Ian is a white nationalist and put it on your Wikipedia page.
That's the game they play.
It's not working anymore.
It's falling apart because people are getting sick and tired of it, and they're not scared to call out the bunk media.
And you know what it is?
As the media ratings collapse, people are getting less scared of being smeared because they're irrelevant.
unidentified
It's also a way to shut you up.
They can't engage you with your ideas.
So like someone said, I don't want open borders.
Well, then you're racist because you don't like mixing people.
But no, because there's a reason why I don't think this is effective.
It's racist, sexist, it's all the things.
It's to shut us up because they don't want to have this debate.
And people on the left, they're not good at debating because they don't get those other ideas coming at them.
If you're on the right, you get all the ideas.
You watch Colbert, you watch the culture, you read the news.
You're experiencing, even by default, all these different concepts and you're able to kind of, you know, work with them, talk about them, debate them.
But if you're on the left, you're in this bubble area and you can't debate, so you have to smear.
tim pool
Well, shout out to Hunter Avalon for having come on this show a while back
because I respect him for coming on the show and he was having traditional liberal views,
but man, don't come on a show unprepared and be arrogant about it.
That's what I would say.
So the issue with him was he brought up Hunter, he brought up Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Ukraine, Burisma,
and he didn't know anything about it.
So when I said Joe Biden did engage in a quid pro quo, a corruption in Ukraine to empower his son and make money
for his family.
And Hunter was like, that's not true.
I was like, bro, I can name every person.
I've read the reports.
I've read Ukrainian news.
I've read Russian news.
I've read Matt Taibbi's reporting.
I have dug through that to a great deal.
And I asked him, do you know the name of the guy who started Burisma?
And he was like, no.
And I'm like, okay, look, with all due respect, why would you step up and claim you know something?
And then when I ask you a simple question, you outright say, I don't know anything about it.
It's a weird arrogance that exists.
libby emmons
Joe Biden bragged about it.
tim pool
He bragged about the quid pro quo.
They don't know any of this because they don't actually have these debates.
So when someone comes into a debate and their first experience with this is, ah, I remember what Hassan said.
He said, it's not true.
And then I'm like, I actually can pull up all of the facts and show you.
Do you want to see the Ukrainian news outlets talking about this guy fleeing the country?
No, they don't read the news.
They don't.
They listen to each other and they have a big circle of people who are jerks.
We try to keep it family-friendly.
libby emmons
I respect that.
luke rudkowski
They're very happy in that circle, but they're also completely out of touch.
libby emmons
They're on that island.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, that's probably what happens on that island, to be completely honest with you.
libby emmons
But Joe Biden bragged about that.
I mean, can we not forget that?
tim pool
It's amazing that Joe Biden— He was, like, thrilled about it.
Literally!
He's like, I did it!
I had a quid pro quo!
And the media's like, no, he didn't.
Right.
You gotta be a special kind of either stupid or deceptive to be going online claiming it never happened when we all watched the video of Joe Biden doing it.
And Joe Biden's so dumb, he bragged about it.
unidentified
I think the scariest thing for me about media bias today is that we can see things or hear things in their context and the media will say, no, it didn't happen.
tim pool
That scares me to death.
unidentified
It really scares me.
tim pool
Well, it used to scare me.
Now I just laugh about it.
unidentified
But people believe it though.
That's the thing that really upsets me.
tim pool
But their ratings are in the gutter.
So I know their ratings are still high.
Colbert gets like 3 million viewers or whatever.
I just really loved when Joe Biden was doing the press conference and they were like, you know, if you don't pass these voter reform bills, what do you think's going to happen?
Joe's like, well, it's a very good chance it could be illegitimate.
And then Jen Psaki comes out the next day.
No, actually, he didn't say that.
What he said was true.
Trump is the problem.
It reminds me of that episode of Family Guy where Lois Griffin is running for office and she gets up to the podium and she goes, 9-11.
And they go, yay!
And start clapping and cheering.
And then they're like, how would you deal with the economy?
She goes, nine?
unidentified
Eleven.
Yeah!
tim pool
And they'll start clapping and cheering.
luke rudkowski
She stole that from Rudy Giuliani.
That's not fair.
And I'm reminded of the Orwell quote that we talked about on the show previously before that says, quote, the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
It was their final, most essential command.
And there's a lot of truth to that, especially when you see them call out stuff that clearly does happen, that clearly is a reality, and them saying, no, no, no, this never happened.
Don't look at the evidence.
Don't question it.
If you do, you're a bad person.
You're part of the alt-right.
You're, you know, a homophobic, racist, destructive person.
tim pool
That means you're a white nationalist.
libby emmons
Also, if, you know, if it does turn out that the GOP takes a lot of extra seats or whatever in the 2022, in the midterms, And the Democrats then start saying that the election was illegitimate.
We're going to be able to look back on this moment and be like, you said it wouldn't be.
Now what are you talking about?
You know, it's like a it's just such a little trap for them.
tim pool
I want to give a special shout out to the disinformation cycle.
It starts with the New York Times reporting that Ukrainians were interfering in the U.S.
election to benefit Hillary Clinton.
Actually, let me be very careful and precise.
It was Politico that reported this.
It was the New York Times that also reported that a Ukrainian court had found that certain interests in Ukraine, certain individuals, were engaged in this behavior.
And then it comes to Ted Cruz, who appears on Meet the Press, and he's asked by What's his name?
guy meet the press? What's his face?
libby emmons
The guy Chuck Todd.
tim pool
Is it Chuck? Chuck Todd? Is it Chuck Todd? I don't know. He's asked, Do you really believe that Ukraine interfered in the
election and Ted Cruz is like Politico and the New York Times
reported they did. And then you hear one of the producers at MSNBC
start laughing or NBC just start laughing. And then I'm just like,
Ted Cruz cited mainstream news and they laugh at him like he's
wrong because they don't read the news.
Then our good friend David Pakman does a segment about it where he's like, I can't believe how dumb Ted Cruz is.
They're laughing at him.
And I'm like, David, did you Google the stories?
They're real.
But they don't read the news!
So they're like, those of us that read the news, like on this show, we have an eclectic bunch of people of varying political beliefs, and we read the news.
So we kind of agree on what some of the basic facts are, like many of them.
And then we disagree on policy positions, but that's just, it's right-wing.
It's just shuffle everyone into the alt-right bucket if you read the news.
ian crossland
Well, we read the same news.
That's the problem is there's lots of news out there that I don't read that never comes up on this show or is even orbited on this show because it's just, it seems fake.
It seems like media narrative.
libby emmons
I don't know, I read like, I read...
Not yesterday morning because I had food poisoning, but most mornings I read at least the headlines of pretty much everything.
tim pool
What's your process like?
Real quick, just put it in real quick because I want to mention we've cited NPR, we've cited NJ.com, we've cited So we've hinted at Mother Jones.
We've hinted at Reuters.
Yo, we use Establishment Press on this show.
We just fact-checked these stories.
Like the other day, I specifically pointed out that I used NPR on purpose for one source.
I used CNN on purpose.
If I can fact-check what CNN says and find it to be true, I'll use them as a source.
To say, okay, not tell me CNN's wrong.
This is one of the funniest things.
I was accused of peddling misinformation about the election because I quoted CNN.
That's the point.
So I can be like, wow, CNN's fake news, I guess.
But anyway, sorry.
libby emmons
No, no, I just, I check everything in the morning.
I check Fox, I check NPR, I check the New York Times and Washington Post, check Daily Wire.
I check through everything.
We ran overnight at the Post Millennial that I didn't see.
ian crossland
Do you go website to website, or do you look at it through a portal like Twitter?
libby emmons
Honestly, like, I have it on my phone.
Oh, cool.
I just check everything.
I always check Reuters.
tim pool
My reporting on Ukraine, and everything I read, Politico reported that Ukrainians did interfere in the election, and the New York Times ruled a court in Ukraine had found that to be true as well.
That's the New York Times and Politico.
I'm not cherry-picking my news sources.
I actually look for counterpoints.
There aren't any.
So I went to Ukraine and I hit up a source I had in Ukraine and said, can you investigate this from local news sources?
And then when I reported on it, I said, I don't know the credibility of these outlets.
It's a local Ukrainian outlet I'm not familiar with, but this is what they reported.
It backs up what these national outlets, Politico and the New York Times have said.
So for me, for everybody here, I think the issue for us is that we actually fact check the stories, so we have an understanding of reality.
But when, you know, Chuck Todd on Meet the Press laughs at Ted Cruz, or his producers do, because Ted Cruz cited the New York Times, that's a special level of stupid coming out of NBC.
ian crossland
It's interesting.
unidentified
And very on-brand.
ian crossland
To think that a corporation would feed you a little bit of falsity, get you to believe it, and then ridicule you for believing it.
luke rudkowski
Well, there's been a lot of crazy news stories of them just absolutely inverting reality to what is just totally the complete opposite of evidence.
It's not that hard to fact check.
It's not that hard to look at sources.
It's not that hard to get a different side of the story.
It's becoming more and more difficult, especially when it comes to using Google.
and I think they're catching on to that.
But we have an opportunity in our life where we have this small window that's closing
where we could look up anything at any moment and find out exactly what we want about it.
That window I believe is closing.
It's still here.
tim pool
We should still use it as much as we can.
Mainstream establishment outlets talking about this very fact that NBC, their talking heads, make fun of Ted Cruz for.
There's a lot of things you can make fun of Ted Cruz for, don't get me wrong, but he wasn't wrong on the facts.
So when pundits like David Pakman go on his show and he laughs at Ted Cruz for being right, I'm just like, I messaged David and I was like, hey, here's the link to the stories, bro.
You just had to Google it.
I don't understand why you're laughing at Ted Cruz or mocking him for that.
ian crossland
There's something about this story, this Biden-Ukrainian scandal, that's a little vague, that makes me tired whenever it comes up.
I feel like it requires more glucose to process the information for some reason.
I don't know why.
libby emmons
I know what you mean.
It does kind of feel that way.
unidentified
It's layered, it's complicated.
Certain stories are just like a punch to the face.
This one, it's more, you gotta dig in.
tim pool
To explain this story to my friend's dad, I was like, have a seat, sir.
lydia smith
List of characters.
tim pool
Because what happens is you can start slow and let them ask you questions.
Like, a video emerged of Joe Biden bragging about engaging in a quid pro quo where he would withhold a billion dollars in U.S.
aid to Ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor.
ian crossland
That's extortion, right?
tim pool
Well, you can call it whatever you want.
It's illegal.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
Joe Biden doesn't have the authority to stop something that was passed in Congress.
ian crossland
Oh, it's not extortion if the president doesn't, right?
tim pool
No, but he wasn't president at the time.
This was back when he was vice president.
libby emmons
He was vice president.
tim pool
And the vice president and president can't go and say, I am going to personally halt an act of Congress.
So they accused Trump of doing that, when in fact Joe Biden literally did it.
libby emmons
And we know he did it.
tim pool
And he bragged about it.
And then the media comes on and says, Joe Biden never did that.
libby emmons
And he wanted the prosecutor fired because the prosecutor was investigating Burisma, where his son was a chair, was like a, you know, on the board there.
tim pool
And Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor in Ukraine who got fired, signed a sworn affidavit saying, the president came to me and said, Joe Biden wants you fired because you're investigating Burisma.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Matt Taibbi reported this.
And he reported there were a dozen plus investigations from the prosecutor into Burisma every step of the way.
There have been sycophantic establishment journalists who have been like, well, Burisma wasn't even under investigation.
And then journalists are like, here's the investigations.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, but those were not about...
ian crossland
What were they investigating them for?
tim pool
So my my Kolos Lachewski is just the general surface answer is corruption, kickbacks,
forged documents, just you name it when it comes to trying to steamroll things through.
I don't I my personal view of this after everything I've read,
walking the story back to explain to like my friend's dad.
It's the Qatar Turkey pipeline It's trying to get natural gas into Europe trying to compete with Russia on the gas prop a gas prom natural gas monopoly It's around 20% that goes into Europe comes from gas prom through Ukraine So u.s.
Interest NATO Western allies wanted to get an alternative source of fuel to lower the prices They needed a means to do it.
So they prop up this company this company.
They have a guy who engages in a little behind the scenes to make it work faster.
There's like a CIA director who's on the board along with Hunter Biden, who has no business
being on the board.
And in the era of the internet, we can learn these things.
They got really mad it was happening.
Joe Biden's a moron and bragged about it.
And all of a sudden it looks like you can see at least the surface of what they were
trying to do with Syria, with Turkey, with Iraq, with Iran, with Ukraine, what they're
still trying to do with Ukraine.
Trump really messed all those plans up.
Because Trump, I just think, didn't care about their plans, saw the video of Joe Biden engaging in what appeared to be illegal activity, and is illegal activity, and then called the President of Ukraine and said, I saw this video.
This has literally happened.
He's like, I saw this video of Joe Biden saying he's going to do this.
Can you look into that for me?
And then they were like, impeach him.
We got to impeach him now.
And then they handcrafted this insane story about Trump quid pro quo, which was actually Joe Biden.
Here's the best part.
People on YouTube and Facebook and Twitter who named the CIA guy and don't say his name, please.
They got all their content deleted.
I had videos deleted for telling the story.
I made a post.
You post any of these stories and they would disappear without warning.
It was so obvious what they were doing.
ian crossland
I figured out why it has been confusing me is because they've been blaming Trump for the same thing that Biden did.
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
Yes.
lydia smith
Exactly.
tim pool
That's amazing.
Watching it happen, like being in the news, and it's like Joe Biden walks over and kicks a dog.
And then the media goes, breaking news, Trump kicked a dog.
unidentified
And I'm like, but what?
libby emmons
And now Biden is definitely going to go to war for Ukraine.
luke rudkowski
It doesn't look like it.
ian crossland
It's usually for oil, for a resource if it's a war.
tim pool
Trump wasn't supposed to win.
Trump was not supposed to win.
I was in Ukraine at the Maidan protests when all this was erupting, when Yanukovych got ousted, when Ukraine was in that turmoil period, and it was that Western forces, and this is just my opinion as one person who covered a little bit of it, and I'm probably wrong on a lot of this, but my view was Obviously, the West wanted to get Ukraine under the fold.
They want to get cheaper gas into Europe.
That was part of the plan.
Russia doesn't want that to happen.
It's against their interests.
Syria is allied with Russia.
This whole region is embroiled in this conflict.
Trump gets elected.
Everything stops.
Syria, he's trying to withdraw our troops from Syria.
They won't let him.
They lie about it.
Trump is like, why do I care about Ukraine?
Just give him some weapons and be done with it.
Biden gets back in and all of a sudden, oh no!
It's like, the amazing thing is, after Trump got elected, the whole Ukraine civil war narrative stops.
And just like goes off the news cycle, Biden gets back in and here we are, Ukrainian civil war all over again.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's back.
tim pool
Amazing.
luke rudkowski
But there was still fighting in Ukraine between some Russian forces and the separatists.
Yes, but I went there.
But it was still at a standstill compared to how hot it was comparatively to when John McCain was there.
tim pool
And I went to Ukraine.
I think I went there.
It may have been just before Trump got elected.
And in this period, my sources on the ground, just locals, they're not like experts said, the fighting had mostly subsided and they were no longer, they said, don't call it a civil war, that pisses people off.
And I was like, when I was here and when I left, it escalated to the point where the Eastern separatists, no, no, no, no, no, it's just, it's separatist conflict and it's like, you know, it's anti-government extremism.
I'm like, oh, okay.
And then for years, we barely hear anything about it.
Joe Biden gets in and all of a sudden we're being told Russia's about to invade Ukraine.
Okay, dude.
ian crossland
Yeah, they were going at Putin until Trump got elected.
Then they were going at Trump for being connected to Putin.
Then Trump left.
Now they're going back at Putin.
This whole boogeyman thing is so annoying.
tim pool
Well, one of the things is you've got the bureaucratic state, the intelligence agencies, they have plans that exist well beyond.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think they're playing the 100-year game as well as the CCP.
I think they're both playing the 100-year game.
tim pool
Trump was not supposed to win.
When Trump got in office, all of a sudden their plans were completely disrupted.
So anyway, this all started because I obsess over this stuff because this was one of the most egregious things to ever happen in American history.
A president was impeached over a lie to maintain bureaucratic policies that existed before he got in office, and it just shows you that the emperor has no clothes, no one's playing by the rules anymore, and any semblance of like, Like, yo, if you think the president has real power, you underestimate the intelligence agencies and the bureaucratic state.
That's what we can see here.
That beyond the president, there's a reason why Trump was jammed up the entirety of his first term.
Because Trump was not supposed to be the guy to win, and he wanted to shore up our borders, he wanted to bring the troops home, he wanted to go America first, build up our factories, and he did not want to play that international game, and they got mad about it.
I have a different kind of perspective, but we don't have to dive into all that.
Then they did the impeachment, then they did the other impeachment, and now they're trying
to prosecute him over fraud in New York so he can't run for office.
It's crazy.
luke rudkowski
I have a different kind of perspective, but we don't have to dive into all that.
But there was a bull in the China shop aspect to the Trump presidency that does deserve
to be recognized because I think even Donald Trump himself was surprised when he won the
election.
unidentified
He looked.
luke rudkowski
He looked surprised.
He looked like he was like, wait, this is not supposed to happen.
What's going on here?
And whether it was underprepared or whether it was people stopping him, there was an internal conflict that was clearly visible, whether it was him and the CIA, him saying, I'm definitely going to release those JFK files, no matter what the CIA saying no.
And those documents never came out.
There was something happening behind the scenes, and there's probably way more things that happened that would shock us if we really knew what was happening behind the true layers of power.
So, it's interesting.
I wish I could talk to Trump.
I wish we could ask him more questions, but there's so many different ways that the United States government is run that we still don't fully understand.
But the bureaucrats, the supposed deep state, the people that are in there, no matter who the president is, the intelligence agencies, They have a lot more power than we think.
ian crossland
You know that Kennedy assassination was like the first example of citizen journalism.
Maybe not the first, but on video.
Some random guy watching the parade and caught that assassination.
And that all the evidence from all the people like, hey, maybe it isn't what we thought
it was comes from that video of where you see him get hit.
tim pool
Sometimes you just need a little Alex Jones.
When he yells that an alien intelligence has taken over and is controlling everybody, you
can sit back with a nice fire going on a rainy day and just hear the angry rants of Alex
Jones and be like, it actually is kind of relaxing because it makes everything feel
like when he yelled and slammed the table and talked about the alien intelligence taking
over, it made me laugh.
It kind of like brought levity to the situation.
I'm not trying to say it to be mean or to disrespect Alex or anything like that, but it was like my worldview is corporatist, authoritarian, despotic individuals who lie, cheat, and steal.
And when Alex brings up the aliens, it kind of makes me feel like, you know, maybe there's there's something more interesting to life and it's fun to hear the fanciful ideas and the crazy.
ian crossland
I think for sure that this is part of a process that's greater than we can perceive.
The corruption that's bubbling, the humans needing to eat food to survive, so we're constantly aggressing on each other for food.
unidentified
Bugs.
ian crossland
We need bugs to survive.
luke rudkowski
Now, I don't know what Alex was talking about specifically.
I don't know if he was talking about UFOs coming from outer space or artificial intelligence, but if he was talking about artificial intelligence, there is an argument to make here that there is a probability that that has happened in some way.
tim pool
I just I just mean to say that sometimes there's like When we constantly hear about corrupt world leaders and then someone tells you a fancy story It's kind of it's kind of you know, it kind of you know breaks that that humor serves a purpose Yeah, I mean and now it's kind of under like maybe maybe life is more more interesting than just this really awful corruption we experience and this definitely is and it's what you make it and I was thinking about why it is, you know, I can't remember what show I was watching.
I think I was watching the Teen Titans live action show.
And I was like, what's with all these superhero movies and shows that become really, really popular?
libby emmons
How was the live action?
I only ever watched the cartoon.
tim pool
I don't know, I barely watch.
It's on the background, to be honest.
It's gory.
DC really loves to be extremely brutal.
But I was thinking about something.
The reality of superhero movies is very capitalistic, and I guess you'd call it colloquially far-right.
And the world that we live in is actually very communist when it comes to this.
What I mean by that is, I'm watching this cartoon, Young Justice, because I'm watching HBO Max, basically.
And one of the heroes has a laser arm.
Like, his arm turns into a laser gun.
And I was like, that's just a kid with a gun going around shooting people.
Like, he's not a superhero.
They literally just gave some 16-year-old kid a gun, and he goes around and he's like, I'm a hero!
And he's like, blasting lasers at people.
And I was like, in the real world, anyone can have a gun.
I mean, you're not supposed to, but that's why we don't have that stuff.
Like, power is much more distributed.
So anyway, I bring that up because in the real world, There's corruption at every level like in almost everywhere to varying degrees and there is no superheroes going to save the day and end all of this.
That's why when you know Alex Jones says that the real enemy is like an alien intelligence it makes it feel like we're all in this together up against the true evil.
It's just unfortunately not true.
Humans are against humans.
libby emmons
When I was a kid I remember, not a kid, when I was like in my 20s, I knew all these people who were claiming that there was actually a war going on between angels and demons in this other sphere and that, you know, we could like sort of tap into that other war.
And I was like, wow, you guys have way better drugs than me.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think of like demons as like energy patterns that can be catalyzed.
libby emmons
I have no idea what this is about.
unidentified
People I knew were really into this idea.
luke rudkowski
How crazy the universe is, they might be right.
ian crossland
Yeah, who knows what's going on.
We talk about demons and angels, and a demon is like a pattern of behavior.
The demon is in you now because you're acting on this urge.
Something catalyzes this behavior, and we call it a demon.
But that might be coming from somewhere far away, beamed into or vibrating our neurons so we think it.
Whereas an angel is more like, it just seems to need help.
tim pool
This is why DMT is such an amazing conversation, why I think so many people enjoy it.
Joe Rogan talks about it a lot.
I mean, we every so often bring it up.
But because when people talk about this veil and machine elves, it makes everyone kind of feel like there's something else out there, that this world we experience with all the good and all the bad isn't just it.
Because, you know, Ian, you randomly brought up, like, why am I alive?
And that's like certainly something people experience all the time, that question, that existential question.
And so when people hear stories about grand villains, they love it.
Be it Antifa fighting the fascists, or Alex Jones fighting the alien intelligence, or people want to know more about DMT, or angels and demons, there's got to be something else that drives us.
luke rudkowski
I definitely do believe that there is some kind of spiritual war out there.
I don't want to kind of drudge on about my own personal beliefs, but I think too to say that everything is just an accident and mistake.
I think that's something that from my perspective isn't true.
Might be a little bit of a naive thinking.
I think there's a lot more to this world especially energetically that we don't understand yet.
I don't think we should understand it.
But when it comes to consciousness and dimensions, I think we're only scratching the surface here, even just with this conversation.
libby emmons
Well, of course we are.
Of course we're only scratching the surface.
We've been scratching the same surface for the entire history of humanity.
You know, this is why we have religion.
We want to know what's bigger than ourselves.
We want to know where we come from and why.
Of course we do.
You know, at the point when we stop asking that question, we stop being human.
ian crossland
Yeah, I get confused.
I think a lot of confusion comes from like, it's a couple, a lot of things going on at once.
There's one, there's the carnal need to eat and keep this body healthy.
So there's this chaos as a result.
But then there's like this benevolent, like energy intelligence that doesn't need food.
It's just there like love.
It's telling you love and communicate.
But then you're, you're, you're countering that with your body.
That's like consume, destroy.
I must, I must, Take its energy to survive.
unidentified
So well, this is the question, right?
libby emmons
The question is what does the does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body?
These are the this is the question.
unidentified
So where are your friends today?
The ones who gave you that and Morrissey both asked those questions.
Where are your friends?
You had that when you were in 20s.
You heard this conversation.
Where are they today?
libby emmons
Oh, I'm mostly they're dead.
Sorry.
unidentified
Oh Christian unhappy.
ian crossland
What do you think about this spiritual battle?
unidentified
I don't think about it that much.
I think my life is so frantic right now.
I've got two kids.
My wife was battling cancer last year.
I work seven days a week.
I've got so much going on.
I work all the time.
I don't have time for meatier themes like this, honestly.
tim pool
Well, let me ask to kind of build upon that.
Do you guys think when Alex Jones says demons, he literally means like demonic energy?
Or does he mean like evil people, people who are bad people?
You know what I mean?
libby emmons
Is there a difference?
ian crossland
I think he means energy.
tim pool
Well, no, yeah, like he could literally think that there's demons from hell coming through the veil and latching onto people.
Or he could be saying that these people are demons metaphorically, like they're just evil.
ian crossland
I think it's like energy tickling the amygdala.
luke rudkowski
I don't want to be speaking for someone else.
tim pool
How do you interpret it?
luke rudkowski
I think both could be true.
Absolutely.
tim pool
Demons from the other realm.
luke rudkowski
Um, I, you know, when it comes to energy, there's a lot of, you know, crazy things once you start studying and understanding it, dimensions and realities.
And especially when it comes to, you know, the spirit molecule, there's, there's so much really to, to, to have this personal journey.
That's kind of even weird to talk about, uh, because people are going to be looking at you strange with what you actually believe in.
You know, I think everyone has their own journey in life and has their own understanding of it And I think the process of them finding out is Is something that's really amazing and beautiful and I think even speaking and telling people what I believe in kind of ruins that It's so deeply personal exactly But doesn't that mean we should talk about it?
Yeah.
That's just my own personal feelings on it.
libby emmons
I think that it's very easy for human beings to become the monster, you know, to dehumanize themselves to look around and say like, you know, I'm better than this person or I get to do this horrible thing because I have good reasons to do the horrible thing, you know, but I think that I think that there probably is evil in the world.
I don't like to think that there is, but I tend to be an optimist.
I tend to look at the good in every person.
When I interact with a person, I try and meet them where they stand and look for the good
in them.
unidentified
I mean, I think if you live for the last two years and don't think there's evil in the
world, I don't know what you're smoking.
That's a very good point.
I've gotten so disappointed with people, with my country, with our leaders, with other nations.
I can't wrap my head around what's going on right now.
tim pool
They're evil.
ian crossland
There's a thing where people snap.
I don't know if you guys ever see someone snap before, where they're getting riled up and then all of a sudden they just like...
Like it's like this weird thing where it's almost not human.
It's like the animal takes over.
tim pool
So you're saying like not necessarily evil, but definitely dangerous.
luke rudkowski
I had some weird experiences in my life that I don't even want to talk about right now, but there are sociopaths.
Right.
The most amount of sociopaths per capita are in Washington D.C.
That makes a lot of sense to me.
And when you look at the science of sociopaths, it explains a lot of the behavior that you see kind of exemplified in a lot of positions of power where naturally sociopaths try to get to.
So understanding it from that perspective is also one way to kind of answer the question of why these people do what they do and whether it's demonic evil or just psychological breakdowns of people's mental health.
You know, there's a lot of different possibilities out there, but I think the spirit world is something that does exist and does have a far greater impact than we even understand it to.
ian crossland
I've been studying the demons from the Bible, the Christian Bible, from this thing called the Ars Goetia, which is like King Solomon would communicate with demons through a ring.
And it's like, you look at these demons, and they're all like, it's called the Ars Goetia, if you want to check.
libby emmons
So it's not actually in the actual Bible.
ian crossland
No, no, no.
This is something that was written later about the demons.
libby emmons
It's totally not in there.
ian crossland
But it's like Baal, the demon, and it's about like a bunch, they're all like kings and dukes and earls and presidents and stuff.
And I started thinking, I think these were real people.
libby emmons
Well, King Solomon was a real person.
ian crossland
Yeah, for sure.
And I think that demons, like the archangels, Michael and all these archangels were real people and the demons were real.
And there was a war and the winner wrote the history book and wrote them and demonized them and said that land that they all lived in is called hell.
And they remember it being a fire and flame because they probably scorched earth.
libby emmons
I have no idea what this is.
ian crossland
The idea of a demon isn't like a person that you got to be afraid of.
It's more of a field or like an energy pattern that can kind of co-opt your body.
libby emmons
Or is it human beings who have, you know, taken that leap into pure evil, which I think happens.
tim pool
I've been told that when you take DMT, you will meet demons and they'll offer you secrets and knowledge and all you gotta do is sign the deal.
I was there for that conversation.
luke rudkowski
I remember that conversation.
tim pool
I ask some of these people, what is that deal?
What is it?
And they're like, just the deal.
And I'm like, what are you giving up in exchange for the knowledge?
Nothing.
It's just they want to share.
They tell you, we're going to help you and we're going to give you this information.
Don't you want to be free?
And that people are told to reject the deal because they're going to, you know, and then the demons are like, the only reason you would say no to this is because you're a slave and you're brainwashed.
You got to trust me.
I'm good for you and I'm going to make your life better.
And so the idea is from a lot of people that these demons are giving global elites access to information.
This is what Alex Jones says.
They're getting like privy to information or whatever from the demons.
I think that's just, you know, when you do drugs, you believe crazy things.
libby emmons
I mean, this is Jesus in the desert, right?
So when Jesus goes out into the desert, And Satan offers him everything he could possibly ever want and Jesus turns it down.
But he turns it down over and over again.
tim pool
But what was he like?
What was he offering him?
libby emmons
He offered him.
He offered him.
Yeah, he offered him power like to basically to be the king.
He offered him.
I mean, we could probably find it.
But that's the one that I remember.
He offered him food because he was starving out there in the desert because he was fasting for 40 days.
Power.
He offered him, you know, like probably Maybe I'm making this up, but he probably offered him sexual stuff, you know, whatever it is.
I don't know if that would work on Jesus, to be honest.
lydia smith
Am I making that up?
libby emmons
No, it was just everything he wanted.
But it was like anything.
Basically, the idea was that Satan tried to ply Jesus with anything he could come up with that Jesus might want.
And it didn't work, and Jesus eventually went back and faced his fate, which was devastating and very excruciating for him, and he felt abandoned by God and everything else, and it was terrible.
But I think that's such an amazing moment.
It's part of why Lent is my favorite season in the Catholic calendar.
It's because it's when you look at everything and you say to yourself, I am nothing.
I am dust.
And you have to give up of yourself in order to be closer to God, I think.
luke rudkowski
What do you think, Tim?
What's your understanding of it?
Of what?
Demons.
tim pool
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
Or energetic forces.
tim pool
That's why I just like talking about all this crazy stuff.
And that's why, you know, Michael Malice and Alex Jones talking about DMT I find so fascinating.
Yeah, because I'm you know, I'm like, tell me your experience.
I want to learn as much as I can about this.
What really fascinates me about DMT is the shared experiences that people have reported when taking it, which indicates that that's a control that shows there may be something truly there.
And look, man, I would love to know the answers to the great questions.
I don't know if it's possible because we are like these tiny little specks.
libby emmons
It's not at all possible.
And yeah, of course it's not possible to know everything.
tim pool
The universe is so massive.
ian crossland
It seems to have something to do with the double 64 tetrahedron and the double torus energy pattern that's produced.
Nassim Harriman's done a lot of geometric mathematics to produce this.
I think it's this shape.
This is a two-dimensional representation of this 64 tetrahedron.
And that life has... I don't know if there's a point to it, but it seems to be like a shape.
You see the Fibonacci sequence emerge out of this shape a lot of times.
libby emmons
That's a cool sequence, that Fibonacci thing.
luke rudkowski
And you start seeing it under particular substances as well.
tim pool
The golden ratio?
ian crossland
Yeah, under DMT, people see Aztec patterns and stuff.
luke rudkowski
Not just DMT, but mushrooms as well.
libby emmons
What is DMT from?
luke rudkowski
It's in your brain.
It's secreted when you dream.
And when you're born, it's dumped into your brain.
libby emmons
So when you're taking DMT, you're taking brain juice?
luke rudkowski
No.
You're not taking brain juice.
It's in our natural environment.
A lot of living things have them and you can procure it.
libby emmons
So where does it come from?
luke rudkowski
Plants.
tim pool
Your adrenal gland, right?
ian crossland
Or is it pituitary gland?
unidentified
Let's make sure we get everything right here.
luke rudkowski
You should create DMT naturally inside of your brain every time you dream.
And when you're born up into a certain age of I think about seven, your brain is filled with it.
This is why children have a vivid imagination and that's why they say that they see creatures and monsters and entities.
Ghosts, especially.
And then when you die, it's rushed into your brain.
So, you know, this is something that, of course, should take people on their own individual investigative journeys.
They should study this.
Some people are like, just do DMT!
And I would not do that.
I would say people need to study and be respectful of this and do their research and homework.
tim pool
I'd freak out if I saw something like this coming at me.
lydia smith
That looks like a demon to me.
ian crossland
That's what I see when I look at you.
That's because Ian's always dimethyl DMT stands for dimethyltryptamine.
And apparently it's responsible for like this waking dream state.
You know, other people are like, life is a dream.
Why does life, why are these weird, like, maybe we are dreaming.
libby emmons
Oh, I used to have that.
I used to have all kinds of weird things that I saw.
That's a totally different conversation.
ian crossland
They're doing what's called extended state DMT experiments now, I think in England for sure, somewhere in the Great Britain.
And they're putting people in because people are reporting seeing things like this and they're coming out.
And a lot of people are having similar experiences, so they want to know why.
But it's such a quick 15 minute experience if you if people smoke it that they're
now they're trying to do it in a lab in under an environment where
You can go in on like an IV drip of it and stay in for like hours at a time
unidentified
There's no puppies involved with this is it don't know yet.
I don't know. There's no dr. Fowchuk Hey, let's be real though
tim pool
You know when it comes to experimentation I'd be willing to bet that tons of governments around the
world have kidnapped humans and trafficked them for the purpose of experimentation
luke rudkowski
The CIA.
They did it with LSD.
Openly.
Willingly.
tim pool
Wasn't Fauci experimenting on orphans?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
And other small animals.
libby emmons
Wasn't ecstasy created to help Swedish elderly people do their exercises?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Is that what it was for?
libby emmons
Am I remembering something weird?
unidentified
I don't know.
libby emmons
It was like given to people in old folks homes in Scandinavia so that they would do their exercises.
ian crossland
It does work for exercise.
libby emmons
I feel like I remember that.
ian crossland
I took it once and worked out really hard and the next day I didn't have like the serotonin depletion.
I felt it tingling in my muscles for like two days afterwards and I felt phenomenal the next day.
luke rudkowski
But just like with anything, please be careful.
Please do your own homework.
Please do your own research.
tim pool
Please get testing kits.
luke rudkowski
Don't break the law.
Whatever you do, there's a lot of fentanyl also interlaced with a lot of the molly out there.
There's been a lot of people hurt by this very severely.
That's why you say no to drugs and you don't break the law.
tim pool
In a lab setting where they're doing extended state DMT, this is where we're gonna find better answers.
Because some dude in his living room who's like, yo, I talked to a giant green elf, man.
I'm gonna be like yeah, I knew this guy when I was younger and he was like dude I'm telling you aliens are real because I've seen them and then I was like for real and I was like 16 He's like yeah, dude.
I went outside I was at my friend's house, and I was leaving and it was late at night And I go into the alley and all of a sudden a spaceship comes overhead like everybody was inside It was late at night, but I'm telling you dude.
I saw this with my own eyes, and I was like wow so what happened is like well me and my friends because we've been doing tons of drugs like I And then I went, oh, get out of here, dude.
I was like, you know what?
All of a sudden, I'm just like, I was all excited for some story.
And then, like, you know, Ian, you told the story about the wolf.
You're on the roof.
ian crossland
I was crazy.
tim pool
And then you're like, I was high.
unidentified
I was.
tim pool
OK, dude, your story's not true.
libby emmons
Well, that's like when Homer Simpson, that's like your Homer Simpson thing, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, it was only THC, which when you talk about high and drugs, you've got to be careful because some of them, it's like, Like, I think oregano oil can get you high in the strong enough dose.
So you got to be careful with what that means.
libby emmons
You can also just psych yourself out like crazy.
Like you can always psych yourself out and see weird stuff and like wild I've fed a me the placebo effect is one of the most trippiest
luke rudkowski
Scientific effects that that also is worth talking about.
Tryptamines? No the placebo effect because you believe in something you're
Manifest and create something so just by by your belief system. So is that like a rudimentary manifestation?
tim pool
Like, people on the placebo effect actually get better in some circumstances?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
tim pool
And so, it's people manifesting their health?
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
So, you know, just understanding those basic principles and laws, when you implement them with other things in your existence, this is also something worth considering, talking about, especially when you have people consuming carefully curated social media.
The boob tube?
The CNN?
Imagine your consciousness and your thought process being affected in such an effect just like the placebo can have an effect.
libby emmons
I'd just like to say that I have not heard the term the boob tube in my life.
unidentified
That's right.
luke rudkowski
That's what I called it in corporate media.
tim pool
Luke and I have a mutual friend.
And I was going to visit him and he lives in L.A.
And L.A.
parking is a nightmare in this area, right?
And so I'm close to his house and I call him.
I'm like, hey, I'm here.
You know, where can I park?
And he goes, oh, bro, just manifest a spot.
I'm dead serious.
unidentified
Robbie.
luke rudkowski
He was like, bro.
tim pool
You gotta manifest the spot.
And I was like, Robbie, I'm not gonna manifest a parking space.
Where do I park?
And he's like, oh, dude, you gotta drive around and just manifest it.
And I was like, okay, are you telling me to just drive until someone moves and I can park my car?
That's what I did.
And, but then like, that's proof that he was right.
Cause he was like, see, I told you, and then you find a spot.
And I'm like, whatever.
ian crossland
Yeah, I used to drive around L.A.
and be like, there's an open spot, and then I'd look and hope that it was manifested, and be like, there's an open spot, and I'd look and hope that it was, and it wouldn't be, and I'd be like, nah, I don't think this is really working.
But eventually you'd find an open spot, and you could claim, hey, I manifested it.
libby emmons
No, eventually you'd find an open spot, because it was there, like, you don't manifest it.
ian crossland
And sometimes it's there right away.
unidentified
Don't ruin it, come on.
That's ridiculous.
ian crossland
Dude, Christian, I gotta know about your book.
It's been there this whole show, and I've been looking at it.
I don't want to derail anything, but we have like... Tell me about this Virtue... So it's called Virtue Bombs.
And you lived in LA?
Is this what this is about?
unidentified
No, I mean, I just cover it.
I cover Hollywood.
What's going on?
It's exactly what we talk about as far as narratives, but it's a woke narrative that's just crushing Hollywood.
It is making things less creative.
It's obviously, you know, attacking comedy.
It's identity politics gone wild.
It's so many things that are going wrong with Hollywood.
And one of the things I'm really upset about the whole situation is I'm waiting for that Tom Hanks, that Denzel, that Meryl Streep to come out and take a stand against what's happening in the industry.
And they won't do it.
They're all scared to death.
ian crossland
Why is it?
What do you think it is?
unidentified
I mean, it's fear.
You know, I talk about this in the book very early on.
Hollywood is all about fear.
It's like fear of getting older, fear of losing the next gig, fear of your movie not making any money, fear of someone behind you who's better looking and more talented and to take your role, you know, fear of, you know, getting young, you know, getting old.
luke rudkowski
Cancelled.
unidentified
Cancelled.
Well, now then you add this layer to it, and it's a whole new layer.
And they're scared.
They're just absolutely terrified.
It's why no one, very few people are saying, I mean, the Adam Carollos, the Ricky Gervaises, the Joe Rogans, they are standing up.
They're doing something about it, but they're the exception to the rule.
ian crossland
You think, like, Tom Hanks is afraid he might get canceled?
unidentified
Tom Hanks just decided to narrate a special about Joe Biden's first year.
You know why?
Not just that he's a liberal and that's fine with him.
His movies aren't doing well right now.
He's in his 60s.
He's looking at things and thinking, maybe I should kind of, you know, secure my situation.
Nick Cerci often says that sometimes actors, when they get really woke on What's that?
Is that what it's called?
It's not about what they believe or think.
They're actually auditioning for the next role.
They want to kind of say, hey, I'm with you.
I'm in the group.
This is what I believe as well.
Come hire me.
tim pool
There's like a Q is called the Q rating or something.
Is that what it's called?
unidentified
I just saw the approval rating.
tim pool
So what people think of you or something like that in like Hollywood, I thought the agencies
have like a number they assigned to like celebrities.
unidentified
I haven't, you know, definitely true.
I haven't heard in a while, but that's, yeah, sort of the popularity, the acceptance, things like that.
luke rudkowski
I would say John Cena has the best social credit score, especially when it comes to Hollywood.
And then behind him is The Rock that also shills for the governor of California.
tim pool
Yeah, this is legit.
It's called the Q score.
Wikipedia says the measurement of familiarity and appeal of a brand, celebrity or company.
So Tom Hanks does this video because he knows it's going to get attention.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
And then the agencies are going to be like, people know Tom Hanks?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
No, I understand the whole mechanics behind it.
I'm just thinking, if you're Tom Hanks and you just watched the last year of this presidency, even if you voted for Biden, even if you're a left of center, even if you're a hardcore Democrat, you really want to sign on to this guy?
At this point?
What we just watched?
I mean, that kind of boggles the mind, but you see that a lot.
ian crossland
Did he get paid?
unidentified
Who knows?
Who knows?
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
The White House admittedly bought social media influencers on TikTok to promote the vaccine and their vaccine effort.
ian crossland
You know, it's hard for me to think to even comprehend that people like Meryl Streep, Denzel Washington are afraid of getting canceled because they're so powerful.
unidentified
Well, look at Scarlett Johansson.
It's a big part of my book.
She's very beautiful.
She's very talented.
She's bankable.
When her movies come out, they make money.
So she's maybe the most powerful actress in Hollywood.
She took a role playing a trans person in a movie called Rub and Tug, and then the woke mob came after her.
Like that, I am sorry.
I'm going to be an ally.
I will do better next time.
That's the most powerful person in Hollywood.
What about other people?
You know, lower, lower, lower levels, like Afro on the movie set, an actress coming up.
What do they think when they see something like that happen?
It sends a signal.
It's like with Dave Chappelle, the most powerful comedian of our age, the GOAT.
And yet he's under constant attack now because he told a few jokes that some people didn't like.
tim pool
And he starts to falter.
His last special was very much him, like, constantly addressing the criticism.
unidentified
Oh yeah, sure, absolutely.
tim pool
But it's the criticism, as we mentioned, of less than 2%.
It's about 1% of the U.S.
population who are active.
So you have 2% of the U.S.
population active on Twitter.
About 1.2 or so are left, because there's slightly more left than right.
And Dave Chappelle is addressing those people.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
And also, what's interesting about him is, what is the message for the other comedians?
You think they're gonna go near that material?
They're gonna think they're gonna take a chance?
If they could almost take down Dave Chappelle, and good for Netflix for standing by him, and they've done that mostly, a pretty good job of saying, we back him, we understand what's going on.
But if you're like a club comic, and you're just starting out, and you wanna kind of engage in some really challenging topics and themes, but you don't have his skill set, and you don't have his fame, I would avoid it.
You might not get work.
I talk to comedians all the time who get attacked by other comedians and who try to get them canceled.
It's fascinating.
tim pool
But the system broke.
Ryan Long is enjoying tremendous success and growing rapidly because he doesn't care.
He's a funny guy.
unidentified
Yep.
He's existing in this whole new, you know, he's not on Saturday Night Live.
He's not going to be on Netflix, but he's got his own little niche and he's very successful.
He's also very good.
And he's aggressively a political.
ian crossland
It's interesting, I think, about how figureheads are so powerful for morale.
If an army of 10,000 men is engaging another army with 8,000 men, but then the leader gets killed, the army will turn and run because they've lost command.
And if you see Tom Hanks bend the knee, then it's a similar morale-shattering effect on the people that follow and obsess over Tom Hanks.
Oh, what were you going to say?
unidentified
No, go, go.
ian crossland
When you were writing this, did you follow like the history of this coming up in the last seven years or something?
unidentified
You know, it kind of encompasses that time period.
It feels new-ish.
There have been echoes of it for a while, but it's the last three or four years where it's metastasized in a way that is so powerful.
And so, I mean, Barry Weiss's Substack page had an amazing article recently.
They had two investigative reporters dig into people.
I think they interviewed like 25 people.
Most were off the record because they're scared to death.
And they talked about how if you're a white male in Hollywood, you're out.
You don't get work.
They actively don't want to hire you.
And it's, listen, Hollywood has done a terrible job with diversity, and this is a course correction, but it's an extreme course correction.
It's way too far.
So if you're a white comic, you're in trouble.
You're not going to get the gigs.
ian crossland
Hollywood got shattered by internet video.
I was there in 2005, 6, 7.
I started making YouTube videos in 06, and I watched the entertainment industry start to be like, what are we going to do?
I would get called into auditions, and then they would Google my name.
For the first time in history, an actor, they would look outside of the audition for who is this guy, and they'd see crazy videos of me, and then they'd be like, I'm not touching that.
But then you see Maker Studios, a bunch of YouTubers make this company, sells to Disney for a billion dollars because they're desperate for content and for entertainment.
And instead of people going into Hollywood and getting contracted with Paramount, they're starting up their own thing now.
tim pool
But for a lot of, you know, actors are marketing essentially.
When I put the name on the title, they want to, you know, people will go see it because that can pull, you know, those actors are recognizable.
With internet video, there's a lot of people and the internet really changed this.
There are people who have no business in certain industries becoming successful in certain industries by simple virtue of being famous.
You know, like the Paul brothers are boxers now.
You know what I mean?
Like, well, they're famous.
They can get draw.
They can make money.
Who cares if they're good at boxing.
We're going to make millions of dollars if we do a boxing match with them.
Rap battles, all of that stuff.
So it's the whole landscape is shifting and it's turning into, are you famous?
Are you not famous?
unidentified
One interesting thing I noted, there's a new Lord of the Rings series coming to Amazon Prime.
$465 million poured into just one season.
September 2nd is coming.
So I don't know a lot about it.
They haven't released a lot about it, but they had a list of the actors who were in it.
I didn't recognize a single name.
The brand is Lord of the Rings.
You don't need that.
Even with all that money, they went with a whole bunch of lesser known actors, because that is the property.
That's the drawing.
libby emmons
That makes a lot of sense.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, same with the Marvel movies.
I remember, if you look back at the old articles, it was really funny, they were sharing them on Reddit, and it was like, Marvel bets big on no names.
You know, was it Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston?
And it was like showing pictures of them, and it was like, can these movies survive?
And now they're huge!
Now they're so famous.
So they knew, and Marvel notoriously pays very, very little for their actors in these movies.
They get paid like a couple hundred grand for it.
Except for Robert Downey Jr., he was getting an obscene amount of money.
What did they report, like tens of millions of dollars?
unidentified
I mean, at that point, he was the anchor of the whole franchise, so they just threw the brink's truck at him.
tim pool
That's right.
unidentified
And deservedly so.
Deservedly so.
It was great.
tim pool
But you know what?
Now, like a lot of... It's moving to streaming, and it feels like... One thing that really bothers me with Netflix is that they'll do two seasons of a show no matter what, and then just cancel it.
It's just really like spaghetti thrown on the wall in a lot of ways.
unidentified
It's also there's no transparency that Netflix will say, OK, this show is our number one show and this is number two.
But, you know, with movie theaters, you can see the grossest.
You can see what movies make each week.
A lot of these new platforms have nothing.
It's just you have to trust them.
So we don't know if it's low ratings or it's too expensive or there's some sort of behind the scenes controversy.
We have no idea.
tim pool
You know what it is?
It's boring.
Groundhog Day was a great movie.
Ghostbusters is a great movie.
But no one wants to take chances anymore.
And I think it was... Who was it?
Who was the guy who said no one wants to take chances anymore because you'll get cancelled?
And they thought he was saying you'll get attacked for being racist.
What he was actually saying is they'll cancel your TV show.
I can't remember who that was.
Donald Glover, maybe?
I don't know.
He was just like, nobody wants to take chances anymore because you'll get canceled.
And then everyone was like, just don't be racist.
What's the problem?
He's like, no, I mean, your show won't make it.
Like, you've got to stick to the formula.
So every movie is becoming very much the same.
They're like, let's make 12 Avatar movies because that made money.
Let's make 50 Marvel movies.
That makes money.
ian crossland
In your research, do you find actors that buck the system and still keep working?
unidentified
Very few.
Very few.
Some comedians are able to do that.
Adam Carolla maybe is one of the best examples.
You know, but he built his own pirate ship.
That's what he calls it.
It's his own company.
So go try to cancel him.
Although one thing I will say about Adam is that no one's even trying anymore.
When you punch the bully back in the nose, they kind of go away.
But if you kind of let them influence you, then often they'll kind of own you.
tim pool
You know, we...
unidentified
Tina Fey is a great example.
Very funny lady.
Did a lot of great shows.
And a few years ago she was under some sort of quick, kind of early cancel culture attack.
And she said, you know what?
I'm making a policy not to explain my jokes.
Which was a great answer.
lydia smith
That's a good policy.
unidentified
Like a year or so ago, she's all woke.
She's all into cancel culture.
I'm so glad I'm being educated.
She was basically just saying the party line.
So three years ago, four years ago, she was proud and independent.
Now she's been re-educated.
tim pool
Oh, good.
I'm glad the struggle session worked and we can all go back and delete 30 Rock now.
libby emmons
Why?
What's she doing now?
Other than, yeah, isn't she deleting episodes of 30 Rock?
unidentified
You know, she had a, I think there's a new show that might be on Peacock or something that she might be involved with.
But just, I was reading her interviews and she was talking about comedy and the, and the, and the atmosphere and things like that.
She was completely transformed.
But it's like Jimmy, Jimmy Fallon too.
He was not a very- Margaret Cho.
libby emmons
Margaret Cho is not funny anymore at all.
unidentified
I don't think she ever was.
But I think she was more of a true believer even, I think, early on.
tim pool
Interesting.
We've gone over, but we have to do this segment on the Getter Crisis Mode leaked audio.
And so this will dig into some of our Super Chat time.
But we kind of just, that's my fault, we trailed off and talked about a bunch of crazy stuff.
luke rudkowski
We could stay a little long, you guys.
tim pool
But people absolutely want to know about this.
It was in the title of the video because we plan on getting into it with Joe Rogan stuff.
So here's a story from Mother Jones.
kind of crazy. Leaked messages show Getter in crisis mode over Joe Rogan criticism. They
suggest deeper involvement in the MAGA company by a controversial Chinese billionaire than
previously acknowledged. I'm not a big fan of Mother Jones.
I don't think they're always wrong, but I think they're manipulative and they're agenda
driven. And they're probably doing this story because it's bad for Getter and Getter is
MAGA. But they do have leaked audio from Miles Guo. They say, talking to Jason Miller, he
says, we don't want to do any bad things to this guy, Rogan. He says, we need to
respect him. Just explain to him what happened. This is leaked audio about how Joe Rogan
came out and criticized Getter.
The interesting thing here is, Luke, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Jason tell us that
Guo was not involved?
Or what did he say?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I mean, I asked him directly about the involvement of Chinese money and the money that's financing the company.
We should pull up his exact comment.
But from from what I think he said, he said that, you know, the decisions are made by the company and the investors don't have say in, you know, that much in the company.
tim pool
But didn't he say, like, Guo is not directly involved?
No formal role, no money or something like that?
luke rudkowski
We would have to look at that statement to be correct, but I think you're right.
tim pool
But this is fascinating because, I mean, it just shows that there is apparently this involvement.
I don't know exactly what that means necessarily because Guo is this guy who comes out and is overtly anti-CCP.
But it is interesting because it's still a Chinese interest funding U.S.
companies, and I don't know, man.
I don't know if I trust that kind of stuff.
ian crossland
I'm definitely not a xenophobe, but... Well, firstly, that it got leaked is a little concerning, because I think you sent it to 10 people, and one of those 10 people... Is that what it was?
Yeah, Guo sent it to 10 people, that conversation, and then of that, somebody leaked it.
That's like, if you're in your inner circle, if you're 10 inner circle, someone's going to leak your stuff.
That's kind of bad news, structurally, for the company.
tim pool
20 people, 20 people.
It was a one-on-one with Miller and then forwarded the exchange to a group of 20 associates.
ian crossland
20.
So one out of 20 people must have leaked, seems to have leaked that.
That's, that's disturbing.
tim pool
I don't know if it's the biggest deal in the world, to be honest.
ian crossland
I'm just wondering if there's like a... It's a normal conversation that goes on in a corporation when you get bad PR.
tim pool
But the question is, is this Chinese billionaire involved in a social media platform that's trying to attract all of the modesty on the board of advisors?
ian crossland
That's what I want to know.
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
I think the question is just, it's not relevant to what you can claim.
You can have someone who's got no direct involvement, but you know they're secretly running the show.
ian crossland
So like if you, if there's leaked audio of you being like calling Steve Bannon and being like, do you think I should something something paint my wall brown?
tim pool
Would they be like, colludes with Paint My Wall Brown?
If he was like, I need you in relation to your last guest, you gotta understand, this guy needs this, that, and this, I'm like, okay, you got it, man.
ian crossland
Okay, so if it was related to the show, this show, hey, I'm thinking about having someone on on Wednesday, should I?
And Steve gives you his advice, are all of a sudden you colluding with Steve Bannon?
Like, no, come on, you just asked a friend some advice.
tim pool
I guess it depends on, you know, what we get out of this, to what degree.
The criticism and the fear is that there's a Chinese billionaire, regardless of what his position on the CCP.
involved with a ton of American companies.
ian crossland
And honestly, I've never seen you ask someone what guests you should have on, and maybe that would be a problem.
I have none of this.
tim pool
Maybe that's why my perspective is that this is maybe more nefarious than it really is, because I don't have anything like this.
There's nobody that I talk to about anything.
In fact, Lydia does the bookings.
I don't do it.
She's like, not even into the microphone, just like, yeah.
luke rudkowski
Sometimes I get my friends to come and then there's usually controversy behind it.
And I'm like, what am I doing?
lydia smith
Sometimes they're great.
Sometimes they're tough.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know, man.
People were, there's like memes coming out of like Getter going down and it's involving me.
Like, I'm like, I don't know, man.
I just was asked questions.
lydia smith
So with this Chinese billionaire, I would be very cautious because I was thinking about it and I was like, well, it would be great if he were anti-CCP.
That's kind of a cool idea that somebody could flee China and come to the U.S.
and work against Chinese Communist Party.
But there is almost a better chance that he's working with the CCP.
They're paying him and he's being like, you know, like some kind of spy for them.
I don't know.
That just makes me really cautious and worried.
tim pool
It's basically just leaked audio of Guo advising Miller on what to do about the Joe
Rogan situation, which is just crazy.
ian crossland
Regarding the CCP, like if he works for it or not, like you look at what Jack Ma, who
was a Chinese billionaire, he got ripped apart by the CCP.
He lost like half his 900 billion dollar empire.
They took a bunch of his company like they he disappeared.
They disappeared him from society for like three months and then he apologized and then
he apologized.
libby emmons
Wait, okay.
ian crossland
They sold off one of his companies.
He's the Alibaba owner of Alibaba.
And they sold off like half of his other Ali company.
libby emmons
I was thinking of the Apple Daily guy who also got, he was doing a daily in Hong Kong and he was imprisoned along with a bunch of his staff.
So totally different.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Guo fled the country.
He's not in China.
So they weren't, maybe they're not able to get to him or maybe it's, he's a plant.
I really don't know.
I don't know the guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I don't either.
tim pool
I'm not confident in Getter and I, you know, hate to be that guy.
ian crossland
Well, it's proprietary, man.
You can't trust proprietary software.
You can't trust people telling you what it does.
tim pool
Yeah, Gab's open source.
ian crossland
You can only trust code when it comes to social networking.
It can be tracking you.
It can be selling your data.
It can be feeding you algorithmic ads.
And they can tell you with a smile on their face, we're not doing any of that.
But unless you can inspect the code and verify it, you cannot trust.
You cannot trust any human regarding that kind of thing.
tim pool
I don't know what to think about all this, to be completely honest, but I guess it is what it is, and we'll just see more information comes out.
Yeah, maybe it's something, maybe it's nothing.
Maybe, like, we know he knows Guo, and maybe they're just talking, or as Mother Jones tries framing it, it's deeper involvement than anyone realized.
ian crossland
He sent it to 20 getter employees?
lydia smith
That's kind of weird.
tim pool
I guess.
ian crossland
Guo sent it to 20 getter employees.
tim pool
Yeah, or maybe it's an attempt at generating press?
unidentified
Maybe.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Or maybe they leaked it?
tim pool
You don't think so?
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
The media's gonna jump on like the Mother Jones is doing it.
I mean, that's the template.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, we'll see how that plays out, but let's go to Super Chats, because we're behind.
Whirling, yeah.
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Let's read what we got.
Alright, let's see.
Araf- uh, what is this?
Araftas of Stets says, Hey Tim, came over from Crowder's show.
Didn't like you at first, I think it was the glasses, but really love the show and the work you do.
Uh, the work you folks do.
Keep it up.
I haven't worn glasses in what, like, a year and a half?
I was wearing glasses for a while before.
Yeah, because I didn't like, uh, I've always worn contacts, but I just figured, you know, I'm not gonna dry out my eyes, because afterwards I would go skate, then put my contacts in fresh, and then I would skate, and I was like, it just felt better.
But then I was just like, eh, wear my contacts, whatever.
I got good contacts, no problem.
ian crossland
Do you have those day-night contacts?
tim pool
No, I've got dailies.
ian crossland
I've got the ones where you can wear them for a month.
There's like a, although Rage, you can wear them for a month and then take them out.
Did you ever see that?
Like 2006, 2005?
I wore it for eight months.
I would take them out once in a while and wash them and then put it back in and keep, because I was broke.
I was so poor.
And my eyes started to get really red and like bloodshot.
I'd take it out and it would just be a ring of red.
libby emmons
Yeah, there was a girl who went blind from that.
There was a girl who went blind from keeping the same contacts in.
ian crossland
They don't sell those anymore.
libby emmons
That's why I just wear glasses.
ian crossland
Same.
I stop wearing contacts now.
libby emmons
Don't have to worry about that at all.
tim pool
It's not fun skating in glasses, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, I mean, you can, but... All right, Trent Lomelino says, I'm already puking.
luke rudkowski
No!
There's gonna be a lot of puking.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
ian crossland
I can follow you.
luke rudkowski
I live for the change.
We are Luke, we puke.
No Luke, we puke.
Comments are a warm place in my heart.
tim pool
Rob Cochran says, yay, Luke is leaving!
Now other people will be able to talk and share with me.
What?
luke rudkowski
Hey, excuse me there.
unidentified
He found my alternative account.
ian crossland
All right, what is this?
tim pool
Littletalesfarm says, here's a press five super chat for Luke.
Take care, bro, and safe travels to Florida from all of us here at Littletalesfarms.
We will be keeping up with you.
luke rudkowski
Thank you.
ian crossland
I gotta figure out how to keep the pressure on Bill Gates with the smooth charm.
lydia smith
That's right.
luke rudkowski
I'll send you talking points during the show all the time.
Did you know Bill Gates did this?
unidentified
He's your insider.
tim pool
Kyler Casimir says, Hey Tim, I've been enjoying the Cast Castle channel.
Good stuff.
I noticed you order out a lot for the crew.
I think the house would definitely benefit from hiring a chef.
You are correct.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
We do order a lot.
We just ordered a bunch of Starbucks.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
We don't like Starbucks for being woke, but we bought a big order from Starbucks because they
ended the Vax mandate when a bunch of other companies weren't and I said I reward good
behavior. I like what they're doing. I'm gonna, you know, still be critical if, if, if, you know,
they, they come around and do stupid woke stuff or bring it back, then we'll stop buying from them.
ian crossland
That's how it works. But, um, I don't like it because it's like if someone puts their foot
on your neck and then eventually they take it off and you're like, oh, thank you so much for
taking your foot off my neck. Let me buy.
You're a good guy now, but it's like they put you in that position to be going, not Starbucks.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's a little different.
The difference is it's a big corporation that's doing a whole bunch of things and we're trying to push it in the right direction.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
So, you know, I see your point though.
I get it.
ian crossland
I see your point.
tim pool
But I want to add, at the new facility which is currently being built, we will have a chef.
lydia smith
Yeah, so people have told me, too, they don't think that you should reward Starbucks for doing something good just because they didn't do the right thing in the first place.
tim pool
Then they will get woker.
lydia smith
Jordan Peterson says, if someone does something right, you reward them for it.
That's the only way to get them to do more of that thing.
And I think he's right about that.
So I think it's the right thing to do.
tim pool
If you don't engage, then Starbucks just goes, well, we tried, but they don't care anyway.
So let's just keep pushing woke where we can make money.
Nah, it's not about what Starbucks is doing.
It's about winning influence, winning friends and influence.
All right.
Garret says, Stephen Colbert lived long enough to become a villain.
unidentified
It's pathetic.
tim pool
He's against the country that gave him this opportunity for cheap CBS bucks.
He's a manure spreader now.
Yo, it was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
When Kirsten Sinema, who correctly said the filibuster is like a safeguard that makes sure that, you know, that legislation has broader support in this country, he goes, no, no, the side that's filibustering represents 41 million people less.
As if the people of Illinois are literally every single person's a Democrat.
Yeah, Illinois is like split.
All of these blue states are fairly evenly split, except for California, which is like two to one Democrat-Republican.
So, when you look at the country as a whole, the people of these states should not be blindly marching behind Democrats because they're ignoring conservative constituents, so you get Sinema and Manchin who are like, I'm gonna respect that my state's fairly moderate.
Colbert is wrong.
Cristiano says, Oh, my gems!
ian crossland
I have an amethyst right here.
tim pool
If you guys aren't watching the Cast Castle vlog, you're missing out.
So it's basically Seamus and Chris engaging in enhanced interrogations to figure out who's spreading rumors about Seamus.
And they put Ian on an inversion table and flip them upside down and gems go flying everywhere.
My gems!
I didn't see that.
Live, live or live, live Dave Smith, he recently made a mistake.
He blamed Alex Jones for helping to incite the crowd on January 6th.
I think Dave has Alex Jones derangement syndrome.
Get him back on with Alex and Malik.
Is that true that Dave said that?
ian crossland
I didn't see that. Love Dave Smith, I bet is what he meant.
tim pool
No, no, no, he says, Oh, okay, right, right, right,
but he recently made a mistake.
Alex is on camera saying, don't go to the, don't go in the Capitol, stay out.
They're trying to trick you.
Alex was very adamantly, and he had a permit too, I'm pretty sure, right?
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
He knows what to do.
tim pool
John White says, please use this for gas to get the mobile studio to Florida.
We will miss Luke, but his nomad status is part of the overall Luke package that we will love.
Stay real and keep making new shirts and words much love.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I mean, the Radowski has to Radowski.
I gotta get moving.
tim pool
We actually had our RV tech come out today for measurements and then within the next couple of weeks they're going to be finalizing the new RV mobile system.
We got a different one.
It's a better system.
It's going to have a solar system on it and an insane amount of electricity.
So we're going to be able to power this thing independently without needing outlets and stuff.
So that way we can go down to Florida.
I think we're aiming for mid to the end of February because there's a couple big events that are happening.
And then we're going to try and take the show on the road periodically and do like what we did in Austin, which was amazing.
And it'll be really cool because if we, you know, we had plans to go to the Daily Wire's headquarters, but imagine just doing a ridiculous cacophony show with Daily Wire hosts.
luke rudkowski
I mean, just come to Florida, you know, once a month for three to four weeks.
I think it would be a great idea.
There's so much.
I mean, live events in Florida would go crazy.
Crazy right now.
We got to do it.
tim pool
Here's a good one Buffalo Roe says in reference to the Rogan letter when Einstein was challenged by Nazis with a publication 100 scientists against Einstein.
He replied why 100 if I was wrong, it would only take one Could you say congratulations to my wife Nicole?
She's expecting a fourth child Wow.
Congratulations Congrats All right, let's see.
Ian Hall says, bro, androgynous and tiny, Disney has been pushing that for years.
It's a small world.
Alright, Joseph says, Tom McDonald's new song dropped today called New World Order.
Coincidence?
Luke mentions New World Order?
luke rudkowski
I mention it every show, along with Bill Gates and Build Back Better.
tim pool
Wasn't there a Twitter fact check on the New World Order?
luke rudkowski
I don't remember.
unidentified
There probably was, but it's how absurd our society is.
tim pool
Mikhail says modern war is 5% kinetic, 15% economy, and 80% information.
Ericsson controls telecom in 184 countries.
This gets them blackmail information.
This gets them power.
Did you realize Ericsson controls AT&T?
Is that true?
ian crossland
I don't know.
This is the first I've heard of Ericsson.
tim pool
Did someone look up that Twitter New World Order thing?
I'm pretty sure they did.
It was funny.
ian crossland
A Swedish multinational networking and telecommunications company headquartered in Stockholm is Ericsson.
tim pool
Oh, that's not the Twitter thing I signed up for.
ian crossland
Telefonaktibolaget L.M.
Erickson is the name of the company.
tim pool
This is a reference to Luke.
Luke brought it up, but he said, politicians already go to the island after their terms.
Epstein Island.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
I think a bunch of people brought made similar jokes.
Omega says Ian is correct.
Caligula insulted the Senate by practically saying that he would make his horse a senator, basically saying my horse can do better.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, but let's be real.
Like when that dog was made mayor of that town, everybody really appreciated it.
lydia smith
And that cat, Alaska.
tim pool
Oh, really?
lydia smith
Yeah, he's been mayor for a long time.
tim pool
People are like, we don't need politicians.
lydia smith
Best mayor we've ever had.
tim pool
Jared says, Tim, you need to have Dan Bongino on the show to talk about what he is doing with the Parallel Economy.
Russiagate, maybe even some Secret Service stuff.
That'd make a great show.
Dan Bongino would absolutely be welcome on the show.
But he does his own show.
lydia smith
Very busy.
tim pool
And it's a very, very big show.
So, you know, probably busy guy.
But would love to have him.
It would be great to have him and a few other people, maybe.
We could do a big, crazy show.
That'd be awesome.
All right, let's see.
Have you thought about having Mooney on your show?
Is that what it says? Healthinator?
With West Virginia losing a House seat, merging both panhandle districts,
many in my area are not happy with McKinley, but hear good things about Mooney.
Have you thought about having Mooney on your show?
I not know. I don't know a whole lot about a lot of the West Virginia politicians
because I have not been there that long.
But and also I don't know, you know, to get into local politics.
Well, maybe.
Let's put it that way.
I think maybe that would be a good idea, actually, to talk about West Virginia, because everybody talks about Florida, New Hampshire, and Texas, and I think West Virginia does some good stuff, too, and they can do a lot better, and maybe by bringing some of these people on and asking these questions, West Virginia can do even better.
And then everyone's gonna be like, I can't believe you made America Florida, Luke, you should make America West Virginia!
West Virginia is awesome, man.
Look, I guess it's because I grew up in a more similar climate than, you know, Florida.
It's tropical.
I just, it's not my thing.
luke rudkowski
If it wasn't for Florida, there would be lockdowns, there would be mandates.
There was the only state that first stood up against all that nonsense.
The fight is there.
No, Florida.
I mean, DeSantis, on the large scale, especially with the corporate media, the attention was all on Florida.
They were saying it was going to be a bloodbath.
They made the first stand.
They made a very strong one.
So the fight is there.
There's an election there.
There's a lot of energy there.
It's going to get absolutely crazy.
So that's my personal belief.
I want to invest and build, especially with the Bitcoin community down there in Miami.
There's a lot of incredible things happening.
ian crossland
And in Puerto Rico, too.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
tim pool
Jay Stewart says, wait, they gave Cyborg a laser?
No, no, no.
It's a freaking sonic cannon, not a laser, not a gun.
It's a souped-up megaphone.
Writers, get your own lore correct or stop writing.
Jay, Jay, whoa, whoa, slow down there.
I was talking about Arsenal, not Cyborg.
Arsenal is the original Roy Harper, who was frozen by Lex Luthor, and then the clone went on to become Red Arrow, but Uh, because of the freezing, I guess he lost his arm or something, so they gave him a robot arm which could shoot lasers.
And I was watching that, and I'm like, it's just some kid with a gun.
Like, could you imagine if, like, we're superheroes and it was just teenagers with guns?
Like, we would think that's really messed up.
ian crossland
Yeah, I liked Cable, you know, from X-Force.
tim pool
Oh, he's cool.
ian crossland
He just had a big rifle, but he also had cyberkinetic powers.
tim pool
Could he absorb energy or no?
He didn't, did he?
ian crossland
I don't think he, no.
tim pool
What was his power?
ian crossland
He was, like, psychokinetic.
He could move stuff with his mind.
tim pool
Really?
ian crossland
I think that's it, yeah.
libby emmons
Do you know, one of the things, when you have kids now, one of the things you have to tell them is not to make any jokes about school shootings.
Or kids with guns.
tim pool
Don't eat a Pop-Tart in the shape of a gun, you'll get arrested.
unidentified
Nothing like that.
luke rudkowski
Or draw one.
libby emmons
Yeah, no, yeah, we talk about that.
tim pool
Wow, that's crazy.
When I was a kid and the teacher was talking, I'd be drawing little doodles of stick figures fighting and, like, firing guns at each other and, you know, flamethrowers fighting dragons.
Now you'll just get kicked out of school.
luke rudkowski
You'll go to jail.
Literally.
libby emmons
You're under arrest, son.
ian crossland
I'm seven!
luke rudkowski
You want to go to the museum without your VACs pass?
unidentified
Jail.
libby emmons
Do you know what it's resulted in, though?
My son and his friends joke about how frying pans are actually the best weapons.
tim pool
All right, Caleb says, yo, I would love to smoke a fatty with Ian and just ask him random theological questions and let him go.
It would be like winding up the symbols monkey and let home bang away at the strange.
ian crossland
And I'm sorry if I'm doing it and I'm not listening to you for a second.
It's tough to like channel your feelings and your thoughts and still listen to your environment.
But if you can master the two of them together or like impulsively.
happening back and forth really quickly.
It's like playing in a band with someone.
You want to take control and speak the truth, but also be listening to their truth and make it blend.
So let's do that.
All right.
First, it's a date.
tim pool
1 Thessalonians says the Bible foretells of the New World Order in Daniel chapter 2 and 7, 12, Revelation 13.
If it was right about the technocratic takeover of humanity, it is for sure right about Jesus Christ.
I will say, man, when I learned about the Mark of the Beast, in order to buy, sell, or trade, you need the Mark of the Beast, someone superchatted that to us and I was like, there's no way it's that specific.
That's crazy.
And then I looked and I was like, whoa, that's true.
That's crazy that it says that, man.
Cause that's basically what was happening.
What if it's all true?
Do you guys think it's true?
Do you think it's true?
libby emmons
The whole Bible?
tim pool
Revelation?
libby emmons
Revelations?
tim pool
Revelations.
Was it revelation?
libby emmons
No S. No S. Just revelation?
ian crossland
Revelation.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Um, so, uh, I was looking at a passage last night and I think that people wildly misinterpret revelation, including Christians.
So I don't think there's any kind of consensus on that book.
It is crazy.
It reads a little bit like a drug fueled dream.
Um, so I don't think that we're going to understand it until, you know, maybe until we go to heaven or something.
tim pool
Until after it happens, you can go, oh, there it was.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Because otherwise people are like, could it be?
A lot of people were saying that like some alignment in the sky was like some reference that was happening or something.
lydia smith
Just kind of suits their interpretation at this point.
tim pool
John says, shout out to my girl Libby.
Admire your faith.
You are a class act.
libby emmons
Aw, thanks.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
She's a classy broad.
tim pool
Do you guys see that Joe Rogan had Robert Epstein on his show?
No.
Yeah, he's the guy who talks about how Google manipulates the system and can change votes.
So the one free man says, Robert Epstein didn't kill himself.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I don't know if you can make those shirts just yet, Luke.
lydia smith
Hold on to that thought.
tim pool
Hopefully you never have to, to be honest.
That's a scary thought.
David says, did you hear Aaron Rodgers call out Biden and his super duper 81 million votes and how Biden called him out on getting vaxxed on ESPN today?
There was some like statement by Aaron Rodgers was amazing.
He was talking about censorship.
Did you guys see that?
Yeah, he was just like, when are the people censoring information and trying to restrict thought?
The good guys.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
They're not!
libby emmons
Yeah, they're never the good guy.
unidentified
He's been on fire.
That's a good statement.
When you get personally bitten by the situation, by the narrative, you come roaring back.
That's why Joe Rogan, I think that CNN horse dewormer thing, I think that really kind of lit a fire under him.
libby emmons
You know what's interesting, though?
I don't know if it's interesting, but... We'll be the judge of that.
We don't see a lot of women doing this.
Speaking out, fighting back, pushing back against Hollywood, against these woke narratives.
unidentified
J.K.
libby emmons
Rowling, just by standing Yeah, I mean, by standing her ground, she has for sure.
unidentified
I agree.
luke rudkowski
But shout out to Aaron Rodgers and also Kyrie Irving.
I usually have their jerseys behind me.
And they both of them have been doing really amazing.
tim pool
And I'm going to I'm going to get a meatloaf poster.
Yeah, I'm going to get a big sweet meatloaf poster.
Yeah.
So when I when I heard the news, I posted the song Kickapoo from Tenacious D, which is a great song.
It's a hilarious movie.
You guys know this one.
Meatloaf sings along with with Jack Black.
Love that movie, man.
And Meatloaf was a good dude.
He believed in freedom.
Much respect.
So we'll get a poster for him up here.
John says, my dad thinks you're a grifter and puts you with Hendy and Tucker.
It's a shame.
He did finally admit Fauci is corrupt and needs to go, though.
I'm not the biggest fan of Hannity.
I don't think... So, you know, Hannity to me feels canned.
I don't know if grifter is the right word.
Tucker, I think, is legit.
I think Tucker believes what he believes, and the reason I think that is because his opinions have changed and he's admitted he was wrong about a lot of things.
He has no reason to do that unless, I guess, he's grifting or whatever, but I don't see it.
He's actually gone further than I would expect him to based on a lot of things he said, and he's also resisted saying some things that could have made him money.
I think Tucker legitimately started talking to people and had some, you know, political changes.
As for me, it's funny because my politics are like the same for the most parts of the Second Amendment.
The people who've like followed me for the past 10 years or whatever are like, he just says a lot of the same stuff over and over again.
It's boring.
But for people who don't watch it, they're like, someone on the left said you're a grifter, so it must be true.
libby emmons
So your view on the Second Amendment has changed?
tim pool
Yeah, I used to be kind of like, you know, people should have a right to have guns, but I think there's like a discussion we can have about, you know, gun ownership and what makes sense.
libby emmons
And now you're like, fuck no.
tim pool
Yeah, I used to be like, well, no, I used to be like, maybe there's insurance, you know, would make sense, maybe that could help people.
And then I had a few conversations.
And then my point, my view basically became, well, the Constitution says it.
So if you want to change it, change the Constitution.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
If that being said, then there should be no NFA, there should be no ETF, there should be none of these things.
It just feels like the Democrats and the anti-gun people, the authoritarians, it's basically the authoritarians.
If you want to take guns away, you're just a crackpot despot.
That's it.
Anybody who believes in freedom is going to be like, you should have a right to have a gun.
ian crossland
I think that tabletop fusion is like here and they're afraid to give people that power.
It's like a big, like giving them a rocket launcher.
But like it's so easy to fuse hydrogen with a palladium substrate, heavy hydrogen, deuterium.
Like they're doing it.
They do it experimentally, but it produces so much energy.
tim pool
You ever hear about that dude who made a radioactive death laser in his garage?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
He was taking the, um, what is it called, americium?
Is that how you pronounce it?
I don't know.
Look it up for me, I don't know how to pronounce it.
He was taking it out of smoke detectors, I guess, and it's radioactive.
And then he made a gigantic critical mass with like tens of thousands or something like that.
And then the Feds dropped in on him immediately and arrested him.
But apparently they gave him a chance to work with the government.
Like, if you want to do this, we'll put you in a lab, we'll fund everything you do.
What they did was crazy.
And so he went out and started trying to make a radioactive critical mass, and he was covered in lesions.
You can't, ladies and gentlemen, read the story, avoid that stuff.
David Hahn?
Was that his name?
unidentified
Is that who?
tim pool
I don't know.
lydia smith
Guy who diligently amassed radioactive material by collecting small amounts from household products.
tim pool
That makes sense.
libby emmons
Sounds about right.
ian crossland
Something I read somewhere.
Yeah, this says it's americium or something.
241 is used as a radionuclide in this type of smoke detector.
libby emmons
Is it on your periodic table of the elements?
unidentified
Yeah, it's number 241.
ian crossland
Is that right?
I think it's a synthetic.
libby emmons
Well, you have it right there.
ian crossland
Placed between two electrically charged plates.
tim pool
So there's nuclear... Yeah, apparently he like put them all, he mashed this critical mass into some kind of metal box or lead box that had a hole in it so it was all focused.
And then they knew he did it as soon as he did it, and they stormed it like, what are you doing, you insane person?
ian crossland
You say the people that are hiding the information are never the good guys, but I wonder if someone came out and was like, oh, and by the way, if you want to create world-ending explosives, here's how.
That wouldn't be a good guy either, necessarily.
tim pool
Aren't the blueprints for nuclear bombs just on the internet?
Can't you just read it in university?
You don't have the infrastructure to build something like that.
But this guy is apparently crazy.
lydia smith
Yeah, he is schizoid.
tim pool
That was fun.
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unidentified
Yeah, my new book is Virtue Bombs, How Hollywood Got Woke and Lost its Soul.
tim pool
Is it, where can they get it?
unidentified
Everywhere.
Amazon, you name it.
tim pool
Oh, right on.
You have a social media at all or anything?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm at HollywoodInToto on Twitter, and my podcast is Right on Hollywood.
tim pool
Right on.
You want to shout anything out, Libby?
libby emmons
Yeah, I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm at The Post Millennial.
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luke rudkowski
So I have my own media organization called We Are Change.
You can watch my videos on YouTube.com forward slash We Are Change.
I also have a lot of pretty exciting, weird, unusual things going on on LukeUncensored.com.
And it's going to be hard to leave, but you know, deep down, I am a Polish Florida man.
And never forget freedom.
Someone said this before, I forgot exactly who, but freedom is the oxygen of the soul.
ian crossland
So thanks for having me.
I'm going to miss you, Luke.
It's been fun the last few months, last year, whatever it's been.
But I know you're going to make Florida great, so I'm glad you're going.
And I'll see you soon.
Bye, everyone.
I'm Ian Crossland.
Check me out at iancrossland.net.
I'll see you later.
lydia smith
I had fun on this last show with Luke talking about everything from Caligula's horse.
luke rudkowski
Well, my truck may break down, by the way.
If my truck breaks down, I'm going to be here for a few more days.
lydia smith
Luke's coming right back.
We'll see what happens.
luke rudkowski
But there's other situations.
Practically, I hope, you never know what RV life is like.
lydia smith
Well, we hope that Luke's able to make it down to Florida because that's where he really wants to be.
luke rudkowski
Trying to get rid of me, Linda?
lydia smith
Yeah, you know, just a little.
No, just kidding.
Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patchlets.
tim pool
We will see you all, well, we'll see you in the Cast Castle vlog at youtube.com slash castcastletomorrow because we have an episode up every single day.
Other than that, we'll be back on Monday.
Thanks for hanging out.
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