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Jan. 19, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Anti Trumper Who Attacked Mar-A-Lago NOT GUILTY By Reason of Insanity w/Carey Wedler

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unidentified		You Some crazy woman rammed the security at Mar-a-Lago, which
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		is which is Donald Trump's at Winter White House, so Of course, you all know that.
		And she was just found not guilty.
		And I was surprised to hear it until I read further and it said, by reason of insanity.
		And then I thought, is Trump derangement syndrome becoming an actual diagnosis?
		Because I remember that big story about Trump anxiety disorder.
		And now you have this lady who actually like attacked a Well, the reality is she was literally off her meds, but I think it's interesting considering just how insane many people have become.
		And the crazy thing to me about everything happening is, particularly with the medical narrative going on, if you understand my reference, the gaslighting.
		That Joe Biden can come out and say, we're gonna stop the spread, we're gonna slow the spread, and now here we are today, and it's just... The gaslighting is insane.
		As if people can't remember what was said five minutes ago, or they just keep accepting what the media tells them when the story changes every day.
		At a certain point, I'm like, yo!
		It's gonna change again tomorrow!
		But we'll talk about all this.
		We've got a bunch of other stories, too.
		We've got the murder rate skyrocketing across the U.S.
		It's the Democrat in Florida talking about Ron DeSantis, or what's her name?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Nikki Fried.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, saying that he was, what, like Hitler or something?
		Well, great, okay.
		Well, joining us to talk about all of the absurdities of the modern condition is Carrie Wendler.
		How's it going?
unidentified		Great!
		Thank you so much for having me.
		I'm excited to be here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to introduce yourself?
unidentified		Sure!
		I'm Carrie Wudler.
		I got my start on YouTube.
		I was radicalized by Ron Paul and have evolved since then.
		I found my way to a news organization called the Antimedia.org where I was editor-in-chief for years until we were banned by Big Tech in 2018.
		And I'm still just making my dissident videos out here advocating peace and freedom and challenging the establishment and the government at large.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sounds fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kind of like what Luke is doing, huh?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Crazy talk, you crazy conspiracy theorist.
		It's really nice to have my anti-statist friend here, Carrie Huidler.
		That's why I decided to also wear my anti-statist t-shirt today that says, War is Murder, Taxation is Theft, Police are Gangs, Politicians are Criminals.
		It's one of the less serious shirts that I have.
		It used to be my tagline when I used to play video games.
		Every time I used to be in a room with random people, I always said that.
		It started very interesting conversations.
		Sometimes eight-year-olds would be like, oh yeah, definitely.
		Sometimes other police officers that are playing with me would be like, okay, we're gonna get angry.
		And it was interesting debates and conversations.
		But if you like the t-shirt and you want it, you can get it on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
		And because you do, I'm here.
		Thank you so much for coming, Kerry.
		It should be a great conversation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I also have my anti-status t-shirt on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It says wearechange.org.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's a good website.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I like that website.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Can I get this on the best political t-shirts?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you can.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Dot com.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've been a big fan of We Are Change for a long time.
		I'm glad that you were the one that... Well, I don't know.
		You didn't invent it, but you basically ran it for the first 20 years.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, we all started.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It was a youth group in the beginning, but it all expanded and grew in very interesting ways.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you guys follow me at iancrossland.net.
		Ian Crossland here.
		Happy to be here.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Also here in the corner pushing buttons, very delighted to have a lovely lady in the studio with us and happy to fuel my own personal anarchist fires as I learn about all this stuff.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Let's get going.
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		Now let's get into that first story from the Daily Mail.
		Connecticut opera singer, who rammed through Mar-a-Lago security blockade and narrowly escaped Secret Service bullets in January 2020, is found not guilty by reason of insanity.
		Hannah Romhild, 32, was found not guilty by reason of insanity on Tuesday.
		Her attorney said she had a history of mental illness and had stopped taking her medication before she drove through the Mar-a-Lago security blockade.
		She must undergo psychiatric treatment and counseling and take medications with monthly blood tests to confirm compliance.
		She pulled her rented Jeep into the parking lot of The Breakers, a luxury hotel, and began dancing on her car and making obscene gestures.
		She led police in a dangerous chase, where police and Secret Service fired at her vehicle as she swerved checkpoints.
		She then drove to the airport to pick up her mother.
		Okay, before being arrested at a nearby motel.
		So I don't know if this lady was actually motivated by anything political, but seeing stories like this, I have to wonder.
		I was on Twitter, and I saw some people making posts about how their therapist had said this, that, or otherwise, and I thought to myself, it's kind of weird that all of these like Democrat personalities have therapists, right?
		Is there something to this that people with Trump derangement syndrome, they need someone to help them think properly?
		Or maybe a medication to help them think properly?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think when you live in the military industrial complex, in the empire, the heart of the empire, it's hard not to go crazy.
		Particularly when I lived in LA for like eight, nine years, I thought I needed a therapist.
		It wasn't until I started speaking my mind on the internet fluidly, daily, Monday through Friday, that I stopped feeling the need to look outside for help, because I'm finding it Yeah, if you live in major city areas, the likelihood of you having mental health issues actually goes up dramatically compared to the suburbs.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But with this particular story, who said it doesn't pay to be crazy, right?
		I mean, she got off, had all of her charges dropped, but on a serious note, there is a mental health crisis.
		That this country is dealing with, that it's getting worse by the day, and there has been a lot of circumstantial evidence suggesting that it's because of social media use.
		Again, circumstantial evidence.
		Correlation does not prove causation.
		But I think it's fair to say a lot of people are losing their marbles, losing their minds.
		There's a lot of doctors easily prescribing SSRIs, easily prescribing addictive painkillers to individuals that have an effect on their life.
		You want early treatment for COVID?
		No, no, no, no, no.
		Painkills, SSRIs, boop!
		You're gonna get it right away, which is absolutely crazy with how our medical institution is run today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dana White brought that up.
		You know, he's at a press conference.
		He was like, I bet I can get these pain pills before I can get monoclonal antibodies.
		But the other thing too is we were talking about with CNN when I think it was like Brian Stelter.
		He was like, the trauma of January 6th.
		The journalist's trauma.
		I'm like, they're sitting in an air conditioned building in New York City.
		They're nowhere near the Capitol and they're experiencing trauma.
		Well, look at this story from Vox back in 2021.
		People are not okay.
		The mental health impact of the Trump era.
		Yo, I got a solution.
		It's not therapy.
		It's not medication.
		It's turning off the computer.
		It's turning off the monitor screen and going in like, I don't know, smelling flowers or something.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Turn off the boob tube!
		Turn off the TV!
		Turn off the fear-mongering!
		When you look at what the corporate media feeds into people's minds, it is absolute trash and garbage.
		It is some of the most destructive, negative, low vibrational thinking that you could have in your existence.
		Jammed down your throat by Dr. Fauci, by Anderson Cooper, by all these smear merchants saying breaking news, fear-mongering, you're supposed to be afraid because of this today, you're supposed to give up your rights because of this today, you're supposed to live in your pod, eat the bugs, be in the metaverse, because it is good for you.
		And then people are following those orders, doing what they're told, and they're learning that they're miserable?
		Gee, I wonder why.
unidentified		Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with therapy whatsoever.
		I think, and this might be a controversial opinion, but I don't think there's anything even wrong with being emotional.
		I know there's a big backlash against the left because they're so emotional.
		I would argue they are emotional, but it's unmitigated reactive emotion.
		Being human, You're going to have emotions, but I think the issue here is really that people don't have a container to hold their emotions, and therefore they act out in ways like this, and you end up with chaos all over the place.
		In fact, I think the solution to that is to be more comfortable with emotion, to be able to better feel it, and hold space for yourself and, of course, others.
		But I think it's people's inability to do that that leads to this chaos over emotional reaction.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like pharmaceutical drugs?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What do you pinpoint as the reason why people are having a difficult time with their emotions right now?
unidentified		I mean, I think people have always struggled with emotions.
		Like, to be human is to suffer.
		And this is sort of a Buddhist belief.
		But I mean, who hasn't suffered?
		Who hasn't felt difficult emotions?
		I think it's people's tendency to want to avoid the discomfort by, say, taking pills.
		And I'm not saying it's never appropriate to take pills if you have a mental health condition.
		I don't know your experience.
		I don't know why you would be on them.
		But I think, obviously, they're overprescribed.
		And I think that's ultimately an attempt by people and their providers to just numb it out instead of just building the inner resources to be able to sit with it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And there's a ton of stuff in our society that incentivizes avoiding feeling, avoiding expressing your emotions, avoiding dealing with any kind of hardship or any kind of hard truth realities as they're giving everyone medals, as they're congratulating everyone and denying them the basic truth of this world that it is difficult.
		It is hard.
		It's not fair.
		Life will never be fair.
		But these people are told it's always going to be fair.
		Everything's going to be fine.
		You're going to get a trophy just by participating.
		And they're realizing, holy crap, the real world doesn't work that way.
		They're having a big reality check.
		They don't know how to deal with those emotions.
		They go online and they're consumed by the algorithms that control them or by other adult content, especially young children are doing this that they shouldn't be watching that rewires their brain to be working in such negative, horrible ways that creates destructive relationships and disharmony in people's personal lives.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think A lot of people over the past seven years, you know, since the start of the media's obsession with Trump, have been dealing with an ever shifting news landscape that keeps changing its opinions and mocking people when they don't know exactly what the new narrative is.
		So if you take a look at like, I don't know, Joe Biden comes out and he says, if you get the vaccine, this is Joe Biden saying this, it's going to stop the spread of COVID, paraphrasing.
		Now that's not true.
		Today they say it will reduce the severity of symptoms, but there's a major shift.
		So if you're somebody who's like, I don't know, you're an accountant, you know, you don't watch the news all day every day.
		You see this story and you're like, okay, I see the president speaking.
		The news changes.
		And then you see the news again a week later, and it's a 180 from where they were.
		And now you're sitting there saying, like, has anyone noticed this?
		You're thinking to yourself, something doesn't make sense.
		And then you go to someone, or you go online and you post, like, this seems strange to me, and what happens?
		They attack you for it.
		You get attacked, you get insulted, you get smeared.
		I think this is driving people insane.
		It's making people insane.
		You look at the news about Trump and the media lies every single day and it's escalating and getting worse and worse and all the lies.
		And they've still been lying about the guy even though it's been, you know, a year or a little bit longer than a year since he was in the office or just about a year since he was in office.
		They keep lying, but you can't have these different things be true at the same time.
		But if you try and speak out, you'll be attacked for it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Seems like there's three types of insanity.
		There's the people that believe that the narrative shifted without questioning it.
		That's a type of insanity, just going with the flow.
		Then there's the people that question the change in the narrative and call it out and get called insane.
		And then they start to go insane because they're like, why am I being attacked for questioning this?
		Then there's the people that see it all and think it's all crazy.
		Those people are just considered insane.
		That's kind of where I'm at, anyway.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I tweet about this stuff, and I actually have, like, prominent, politically homeless journalists responding to me saying, like, well, the new narrative is this.
		You know, particularly talking about vaccines.
		Here's the new narrative, and I'm like, how did we shift in three months, dramatically, on whatever the narrative is currently?
		I will not be gaslit.
		Sorry.
		I don't care.
		And so I think what happens is when you have people like this woman, she goes insane.
		I mean, granted, she was on meds, got off her meds, that I get.
		But there are a lot of people like this that are angry and insane, and it's because how do you vent your frustrations with an ever-changing world?
		You have a worldview but it's not solidified because people keep changing and lying.
		I think Yuri Bezmenov talks about this, demoralization.
		Eventually people are just like, I can't tell what's real anymore because the news is changing what they said a month ago and then they...
		And they drive a car through a checkpoint screaming and dancing and making obscene gestures because they're just their brains erupt.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		In a sick society, mental illness is a by-product of it.
		And someone said today, and I tweeted this officially, saying that the bankers will ensure that we stay in debt.
		The pharmaceutical companies will ensure that we stay sick.
		The weapons manufacturers will ensure that we keep going to war.
		The media will ensure we are prevented from knowing the truth.
		The government will ensure all of this is done legally.
		And I think we're living in this kind of society that That's okay.
		No, it's just, to speak to the gaslighting, especially when it comes to the media, let's just say, let's just say that everything they report now is completely accurate and true and vetted and they're being completely honest.
unidentified		just to speak to the gaslighting, especially when it comes to the media, let's just say
		let's just say that everything they report now is completely accurate and true and vetted
		and they're being completely honest.
		Even then, given their decades, if not longer, track record of blatantly lying, of blatantly
		peddling government narratives, you still like how are you going to be angry at someone
		for not trusting them?
		Even if they were telling the truth right now, because of the history, how could you possibly shame someone for having hesitations?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's because you're showing that you're free.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You've exited the cave where the silhouettes are dancing, and some of these people are aware they're being lied to, and they don't have the courage to do what you've done, so they would rather stand with the mob and say, no.
unidentified		Right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Crab's in a bucket.
		They're gonna pull you back in, attack you, but I'll tell you this, man.
		I don't remember the exact quote from Breitbart that has been brought up several times.
		Something about, like, you know, go towards the fire.
		On the other side is freedom.
		It was something like that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't remember exactly.
		But what I was told, it was explained to me, is that everybody is standing around and there's this wall of fire.
		They're terrified.
		And they're told by everyone around you, don't go near it.
		It's bad.
		And some people say, I'm going to run and jump through it.
		And on the other side, it's a party.
		It's a beach.
		There's the ocean.
		There's food.
		And they're like, you made it out.
		Congratulations.
		And on the other side is freedom.
		And there are people trapped inside scared to come out and find that, yo man, it's freeing, right?
		The funny thing about this, there was this post that went viral during Trump's first campaign and it was someone took a coming out story about a guy who was gay And they changed gay to Trump supporter.
		And it was funny because it went viral because all the Trump supporters were like, wow, this resonates with me.
		Because the person was saying things like I wasn't being true to myself, I was hiding who I was, I was scared that if I told people the truth about what I thought and what I felt, they would attack me and they would smear me.
		And then it ended up getting picked up because Trump supporters resonated with it when it was applied to their views.
		I think that was a big thing that the internet helped make.
		It's one of the reasons why censorship is so big.
		It's one of the reasons why they're trying to ban everybody.
		Because community is important, to tell you.
		When you hear that voice on the other side of the wall of flame telling you, hey man, we're all chilling, it's fine.
		Just, just jump through and like, we're partying!
		And then people go for it, and they're like, this is so much better.
		I don't have to freak out.
		It's not confusing anymore.
		I don't have to worry about those people being attacked.
		There's a community, they'll support, we'll support each other.
		But for the people who are trapped inside the Matrix, it's terrifying.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
		Your metaphor goes right up along mine.
		Whereas if the government was like an abusive father in a relationship and like beating up the kids, you and your siblings, and then one night there's a fire in the house and the dad's like, come on, we got to get out.
		We got to get out.
		And you're like, no, I don't trust you.
		You've been abusive.
		And your siblings are like, dude.
		It's an emergency, COVID, in this metaphor.
		It's an emergency.
		We have to listen to the abusive guy, even though we don't want to, because he's the authority.
		But then you realize the flames aren't hot.
		I mean, that's, along with your metaphor, it's an elusive... It seems to be an elusive emergency.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a difficult analogy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think COVID is nasty, right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		COVID is nasty.
		But the reaction to COVID is insane.
		I got it really bad.
		COVID's nasty, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Ian and I had COVID, like, comparably bad.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you almost died, both of you.
unidentified		We were both just like... It was too early to tell.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Four days in of no treatment, and I was like, I'm ready to try something.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Gotta do something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I called the hospital.
		That's how bad I had it.
		And I'm like, it's seriously bad.
		But, you're right, the response has been insane.
		But more importantly, I'm reading the media narratives on social media and it's just... I'm sorry, man.
		People are insane.
		They're insane.
		I'm sorry.
		If you know that the narrative is bunk on a lot of this stuff, On policy especially, on mandates.
		But you keep just agreeing with whatever it is Fauci says next, even though if we were to play every soundbite from every interview, it would be the most nonsensical garbage you've ever heard.
		If you're gonna go along with that, you are willfully lying.
		You are nuts.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I was talking about this on the way home last night and we came up with the conclusion that it's probably that they have too much sunk into this.
		This is very much a sunk cost fallacy application because they've wrapped their whole identity into following the leader and to, I guess for lack of a better expression, following this mass formation psychosis thing where they have one leader.
		It's very scary.
		It's very much Crisis and Leviathan where they have this big terrifying emergency.
		And this lovely government leadership is going to come and show them exactly what to do.
		They don't really have because they lack community.
		They lack their families.
		They lack their churches, whatever it used to be.
		They're like, I have to follow someone.
		I don't really even have any friends, which I think is part of the reason that they need some form of therapy, even when they may not necessarily just because they lack friends and any kind of social life.
		And they end up being like, OK, I can't change my views.
		I have too much invested in this.
		I can't change my mind.
		This has to be true or else what am I standing for?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you've invested years into this, and now you're starting to recognize that Fauci has flip-flopped every day, non-stop, I feel like people's brains are just like, at this point, just a mishmash of broken reality.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I get like war weariness from the insanity of 25, 21 years of conquest and pharmaceuticals making people psychotic.
		I'm interested to know your perception on this.
		Over the last, I don't know, how long you were with Animedia?
		Like a decade ago, right?
unidentified		I started 2014 and we were banned in 2018.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Were you in journalism before that?
unidentified		No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What was your observation of people going, I don't even know if you think people have gone crazy, but people's mental state over the last decade?
unidentified		Yeah, you know, I think there's always been issues.
		I think the people really losing it now, it didn't just come out of nowhere.
		They probably already had Struggles and things they were dealing with and then it became much more exacerbated like I think if you're a generally well-grounded person Which I don't know.
		I don't know how common that is, but I think in general if you have inner resources You might be frustrated.
		You might be scared, but I don't think you can go to the to the spiral some people have fallen into.
		Because I really see, it gets to the point where people are, I mean, you can cite CDC data and people will still tell you you're crazy and you're selfish and you're propagandized and you're literally citing their authority and they'll still, they can't even register for that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Steven Crowder got a strike on YouTube for citing the CDC.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so we've talked about that.
		When it comes to the modern vaccine narrative, I'm just like, I don't even know what YouTube's rules are at this point.
		Because I listen to Dr. Fauci and I'm like, well, if I say that, YouTube bans us.
		Because YouTube says you can't say that, but Fauci's saying it.
		So I'm like, I don't even know at this point.
		The pressure is reaching that point where, you know, we're saying like, listen, we want to be reasonable people.
		We want to talk about what's going on.
		But when YouTube outright says you cannot discuss things that they themselves discuss or CNN discusses, they give Crowder a strike over it.
		I'm like, yo, you're asking for people for their brains to just explode because you're backing people into a corner and sooner or later, they're going to say, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
		It's like, uh, given if, if, if YouTube were, I don't like the metaphor sword fight, but if, if YouTube, and then they give you like a plastic sword, cause you're not allowed to say the stuff they say.
		So like, how fun is that?
		I mean, it's life threatening.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So I'm not going to play.
		Sorry.
		Michael Knowles made the observation the other day that it doesn't matter what you say.
		It matters who says it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Steven Crowder says it.
		He's gone.
		Fauci says it.
		He's fine.
		It doesn't matter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bill Gates, not a doctor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe Rogan, also not a doctor.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't like the witch hunt.
		I saw somebody get banned, I think Carl Benjamin, off of somebody else's.
		So what'll happen is that rather than target the channel that makes the bannable offense, they target the individual that started the channel.
		So then if they start a new channel with a completely different theme, they'll whack-a-mole it?
		Doesn't make any sense.
		The channel doesn't ban any terms and conditions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we saw recently Ethan Klein of the H3 podcast and he announced he was deleting several episodes, two episodes he had with Jordan Peterson.
		I feel bad for the guy.
		A lot of people are mad.
		They're like, oh, that's a stupid thing to do and cancel culture and all that.
		And I'm like, dude, did you guys, do you follow him?
		And do you know why this is happening to him?
		By all means, criticize Ethan H3 for their politics.
		That's totally fine.
		And that's, that's the political landscape.
		But what's happening is someone went on his YouTube channel from a really old video and they mass-reported it, and he got a strike, which took his channel offline for a week.
		He has employees.
		He needs to make sure people are paying the bills.
		Now, I think his reaction to this was really, really bad.
		What he ends up doing is saying, I'm gonna go back and delete past episodes, which can probably get me another strike.
		What people need to understand about YouTube and censorship and all that is that I've got, we've got Timcast IRL, where it is a variety of people, but includes me talking about news and politics.
		I have youtube.com slash Timcast News, which is me monologuing.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then youtube.com slash timcast, which is me talking about big stories of the day, but they're so similar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was told by YouTube that if I get one strike on any of these channels, even though they're different shows, I can't do any of the shows.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't make sense.
		Cause if someone on one of your shows, like a guest does something that has happened, that doesn't make sense for you to have any kind of issues.
		I think you guys should revisit that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, YouTube has outright said, we don't care.
		So if the show is in any way related, when you get a strike, you're done.
		So you can't work for a week.
		And that means that this is kind of, I mean, today we would just go on Rumble.
		We would say, okay, so this is what I was saying in a video.
		I talked about this with Ethan Klein.
		I said, he should have went on Rumble and set up his podcast there and just said, Here's why we're taking these episodes down.
		We'll upload them to Rumble so people can watch them.
		Instead, he went the political route.
		And I disagree with this.
		Even Klein has long been a comedic edgelord where he said offensive things, and that's why they're going after him.
		But the reason he's taking down these podcasts, in my opinion, with Jordan Peterson, is because...
		They can go to a three or four year old video, get it flagged because YouTube changed the rules later on, and then his whole company gets shut down.
		So his response to all this was, I'm taking it all down.
		He's been losing subscribers for whatever reason, I don't know, I think this may be related to it because he did this thing with Hasan Piker, the left-wing streamer.
		They did his collaboration and then he lost a ton of, he gained a bunch of subscribers and lost a ton of subscribers.
		I wonder if in his mind he's thinking, Yo, I don't care about politics.
		I'm just a comedian guy.
		But they're gonna destroy my business unless I bend the knee.
		His choice was to fall in line and bend the knee.
		I think it's a mistake.
		But I certainly understand his fear of censorship.
		Now, this is my speculation.
		I could be wrong.
		But why would someone go in and delete old shows?
		There's no reason to do that.
		He nuked 8 million views off his channel, and in my opinion, it's because the culture war is escalating.
		The left, and probably the right, will go after his old videos.
		I'd be willing to bet there are people who are going to start flagging his content because he's announced he's doing left-wing content with his son.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And you could never appease the mob so no matter how many times he apologizes there still clips of him saying some absolutely absurd stuff in the name of free speech that people are going to bring up and use against him the strategic move that should have been done here is build your own platform build up your own website build up.
		Your own subscription model have an alternative to YouTube because all the writings were on the wall even in 2008 I remember making videos in 2008 being like hey YouTube it's not going to be a space that is going to be respecting free speech and we're going to be seeing this platform restrict speech more as we go on and of course this is why I built my website my email list and if even if they do take me down fine I have alternatives I have Other ways of even getting payments.
		There's ways that we have moved away from this big system.
		And I think YouTube recognizes that they're not the all and be all right now.
		That there's alternatives and a lot of people are exploring those.
		I know you did.
		And it's been extremely strategic.
		It's been extremely smart.
		And I wish other people would just implement those same measures and not be into this control grid that we're all in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't stop the internet.
		That's what it is.
		They're trying to.
		The establishment, desperate, and the elites, the billionaires, many of these ultra-wealthy individuals, they desperately want to be back in that world where there were five channels, they all marched in lockstep on all the news stories, they all backed up the government and the major corporations, they could easily snap their fingers and get us involved in a war and say Iraq like the New York Times did, and now it's difficult.
		Now some random dude in a beanie screams at a camera for a few years and people watch the show and how do they get rid of it?
		Well, they could outright ban it.
		They go after Steven Crowder.
		They give him a strike even though he's just citing the CDC.
		That's a really good example of how they'll lie, cheat, and steal.
		But there are limits.
		If they go too hard, then people revolt, and they'll just make new platforms.
		Then the establishment is playing whack-a-mole, game of cat and mouse.
		They'll go after, you know, Gab, and accuse him of all this other, you know, nonsense, try and get him banned, and then Gab builds their own infrastructure.
		Rumble emerges, gets massive institutional investment.
		These establishment political powers are losing, in my opinion.
		Free speech is winning.
		Gun rights are winning.
		And in that regard, I will say I'm fairly optimistic that authoritarianism will not be able to prevail because there's nothing they can do to silence us.
		They can shut down our Twitters, but then Getter pops up.
		Getter might get crushed, but then people will go to Gap.
		It's never going to stop.
		The internet exists, and they need to learn to deal with it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think that they're trying to instill a civil war, though, in the United States.
		Now they've given up on trying to censor people into submission.
		Now they want to see the U.S.
		fight itself so that corporate governance can take hold.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I kind of disagree.
		I mean, we look at the latest statements made by the President of the United States.
		He was begging social media companies and the corporate media to start Censoring quote misinformation all in the name of keeping everyone safe.
		Dr. Fauci on the World Economic Forum also on his Zoom call was saying we need to fight disinformation for everyone's health.
		People are understanding what's going on here.
		The German government is even proposing on banning telegram.
		I love telegram I have a lot of fun on telegram it's ... one of the platforms that has truly risen and has allowed ... people to talk to each other without any algorithms without ... any central controllers without anyone dictating what ... you can and cannot see people are having real honest civil ... discussions for the German government that's a big no no ... no no we got a band that we can't allow the plebs to talk ... to each other.
		Dare they share ideas and have informed consent about the decisions that the plutocrats and billionaires make for them.
		Obviously, it's ridiculous to portray this concept that they're caring for us by limiting our speech.
		That's a ridiculous concept and a concept that has been used historically to oppress people, enslave them, and to murder them.
		That's the true lesson of history that we're learned here.
		So this is why they're still trying to censor speech in my opinion.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Less that it's... I used to think that the goal was to censor the speech and be done with it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm starting to think the goal is to take control of the world's governance with a corporation, and then censoring the speech is a byproduct of that, or is a step on the way towards it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I would argue that they already did it in some ways.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did what?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Took over.
		The corporate overlords have taken over government and are using them as a tool, as a vehicle for their own... Hands down.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mark Zuckerberg knows when you poop.
		And it's a funny way to explain the concept, but the algorithms, the AI of Facebook knows when you will have a bowel movement.
		They know who you will vote for.
		They can then influence you.
		Facebook ran experiments on people without their knowledge to see if they could make them depressed.
		Fact check me on that one.
		I could be wrong, but my understanding was they flooded people's feeds with negative information to see if they would get sad, and it worked.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was psychological experiments on unsuspecting Facebook users.
		I've been talking about this for a number of years now, and this is what they were doing openly, admittedly.
		Testing and manipulating people's emotions with the algorithm, seeing how they could change their emotional state.
		And if they're doing that with emotions a couple years ago, I think this was over 10 years ago.
		What do you think they're doing now on such a complex level with the algorithm only gaining and becoming more stronger?
		So if they can make you sad with the algorithm, imagine what else they could make you do if they tweak the algorithm in different ways.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They can make you find a wife.
		They can make you find your significant other.
		And it's the one that they want you to find.
		That's called eugenics.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude, that's creepy, but it's true.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you look at everything the establishment pushes, it's pushing a system that de-incentivizes the family unit, that perverses people's own sexuality, that bastardizes any kind of semblance of love and respect and harmony for the fellow human being.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		If you look at every aspect of it, it's to destroy families and the future of this country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So going back to the Ethan Klein thing with Jordan Peterson, a lot of people on the left and the right made this about tribal politics.
		And so I decided to take a look.
		I was like, why would you delete 8 million views off your YouTube channel?
		I was like, even if he doesn't like Jordan Peterson, there's a lot of videos he should be deleting.
		Because the things he cited, he's got other videos of that stuff, so why just Jordan Peterson?
		So I went and looked at his YouTube stats, and I looked at his charitable stats for his podcast.
		And then I saw that there was a period where he was, you know, he was getting hit and he was losing subs.
		Then I saw he posted on Instagram that people flagged his old videos and got his company shut down.
		And he said, I've got 10 employees.
		I've got to pay them.
		I owe rent.
		And they shut my company down.
		And I'm like, there it is.
		They have successfully coerced him into playing ball with tribal politics.
		I think it's a mistake.
		I think he should have stayed true to himself, and he would have been a hero of those he long stood for.
		But I want to throw it to you, Carrie, because you work for anti-media, and there was something that I think was missed by Project Veritas.
		And I could be getting the story wrong, so again, you should fact check me on this one.
		It's been several years.
		But I remember Veritas did this exposé on, I think it was Pinterest, and there was this blacklist Live action was blacklisted.
		It's a pro-life organization.
		And Project Veritas pointed that out.
		When I was looking at their video, when I saw this report, it lists anti-media.
		And I saw that and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
		I was like, James and Veritas, I think they missed it because they didn't know what it was.
		Everyone has their biases, whether well-intentioned or not.
		And I think Veritas missed that.
		An anti-war, anti-establishment website was also being censored.
		So what happened with all that?
unidentified		I actually didn't even know that Pinterest had censored us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it was Pinterest, sorry.
unidentified		I could be wrong.
		I could be wrong, but I think I remember seeing that Google had blacklisted us, which makes sense because we could never get accepted into Google News.
		We'd apply and apply and we couldn't get in, even though other independent media outlets could.
		This actually reminds me, because we were talking about gaslighting and the way the media operates.
		So after the 2016 election, the Washington Post came out with an article about all the misinformation, and it was all spread by, you know, Russia.
		Russia was behind it, and all these news outlets were spreading misinformation to benefit Russia.
		And we were put on a list made by an anonymous group.
		They were called Prop or Not.
		You can look up this article.
		Search Washington Post.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I was on there, too.
		Yeah, we are changed.
		I was on that list as well.
		And I was like, what?
		I'm a Russian asset?
unidentified		Right.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm Polish!
		Like, how dare you?
		Sorry, go ahead.
unidentified		But it's crazy, though, because I was, I worked for an organization called the Anti-Media.
		Like, I was clearly, I had already made, I had already broken ties with the mainstream media, and I came from the left.
		I was a, you know, pretty mainstream Democrat, voted for Obama, and so I went through quite an evolution away from that.
		But even then, seeing my name on that list from an authority figure, the Washington Post, I was like, wait, Am I in some way supporting Russia?
		What have I done?
		And I'm like, this is driving me insane because I'm so actively, I mean, we wouldn't even quote RT unless it was like a Russian general.
		You know, we were so careful about not being aligned with state or with governments, with state-sponsored media, with really being accurate.
		And it got in my head so much.
		And then, of course, I was angry because I was like, how are you gaslighting me this hard that I'm questioning my own integrity and my own practices when I know them better than any person at prop or not, any anonymous person?
		Um, but it definitely, when the bans happened, it was, it happened right after Alex Jones.
		So I don't know if you had a specific question, but it was... No, no, it's just what happened.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it's important to also understand, you were deplatformed on many different social media organizations.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Can you tell us how you were deplatformed, how you dealt with it, where you are now?
unidentified		Yeah, so it's interesting because we actually had a Facebook representative working with our page.
		And this is back when Facebook was really big.
		It was still one of the major platforms.
		Nobody uses it anymore.
		I mean, nobody I know, but I don't use it.
		But we had lost a lot of reach following the 2016 election.
		We used to have, at one point, I had the most viral article in the world.
		Like, based on metrics.
		So we were really getting reach.
		And it wasn't just us.
		It was our partner organizations, the Free Thought Project.
		It was the Mind Unleashed.
		And it was always anti-war, police accountability, anti-establishment, anti-cronyism.
		You know, we talked about solutions.
		We talked about any, I'm sure, things that people care about.
		And then out of nowhere, let's see, Alex Jones was banned August 2018, and we were banned October 2018, right before the midterms.
		And we'll never be able to prove exactly why we got a very generic notice of like inauthentic.
		No, that was Twitter.
		That was.
		Wait, I can't keep track of all the places we were banned.
		Anti-media was banned on Facebook.
		I believe they said it was something about manipulative behavior.
		We didn't do any of that.
		We just posted our articles.
		We had partner pages.
		But regardless, that was in the morning.
		I think it was a Tuesday, a Tuesday morning.
		We got that notice.
		And by the afternoon, Twitter had banned us as well.
		And my personal account was banned.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think they're trying to homogenize the media narrative.
		And so there were too many voices.
		The ecosystem was expanding.
		It was expanding rapidly.
		And even right now, it's really difficult for people to get started on YouTube because they want to make sure there's a very narrow path you can walk.
		Right.
		Only if you have an acceptable voice.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And the corporate ties.
		So if you're tied into major special interests and corporations, you're going to get pushed in the algorithm.
		You're a Joe Schmo.
		You have absolutely no chances of making it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What they're doing right now is they've isolated, they've secretly, in my opinion, based on the data, quarantined channels like this one and many others.
		Now, I think we were quarantined for some time, but we had that lifted for some reason.
		I think, you know, we are on the edge of what they find tolerable.
		And I've often explained it as a pressure release valve.
		If they ban too many people at once, everyone just jumps ship and goes somewhere else.
		But if they want to control people's thoughts, what they'll do is, they'll ban some, and then make sure channels like this one remain so that people won't leave the platform, and they can keep feeding them a narrative.
		So I've talked about this in terms of effective censorship versus what a lot of these companies have been doing, saying that if you give people clear rules and understanding, they'll follow it, but if you ban them outright, You make them jump ship to other platforms where they maintain and push and double down.
		I think that's what they're doing.
		I think the reason, so we were blacklisted for a while.
		This channel, you couldn't Google search it.
		You'd type in the name and you'd get Facebook instead of YouTube.
		You'd type in YouTube and none of it would come up.
		That changed, I think, at some point last year and it was funny.
		We mentioned it on the show and the next day everyone's like, hey, you're not blacklisted anymore!
		And I'm like, interesting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The first time I mentioned DMT.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not true, by the way.
		That's what I like to think.
		To put it simply, I think the reason anti-media gets banned, the reason why Alex Jones gets banned, the reason why they're going after Crowder is because they have the road they've paved, and if you walk off of it You're out. What gets me is that you got banned on Facebook
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		and then later in that same day on Twitter That makes me think that it wasn't someone at Facebook
		called someone at Twitter and was like hey that it was somebody
		Above both organizations was like it's time That's what it makes it seem like but that's and that's the
unidentified		thing is I can't claim anything with certainty I'm not going to because I don't know but they had started
unidentified		working with the atlantic council I think it's called the Digital Forensics Research Lab, and they were supposed to be analyzing social media and helping platforms like Facebook and Twitter weed out anything that could threaten democracy and hurt the integrity of elections.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And that council was connected with Henry Kissinger, who of course is also a very big fan favorite of We Are Change when we were conducting interviews of him.
		And obviously that didn't play a role in us getting hit on Facebook and YouTube and Twitter and all that other stuff.
		Last year, by the way, the Facebook page that I run on We Are Change got a strike because we posted a screenshot of the CDC website talking about breakthrough cases.
		It's not even just walking the tightrope.
		Even if you regurgitate the narrative back at them, they still have the indecency to try to destroy your livelihood, take away everything you worked so hard for, All in a moment's notice because you're not helping the multinational corporations.
		You're not helping the special interests.
		You're not helping the billionaires class.
		You're not helping Henry Kissinger, Bill Gates, and all these other people push their agenda onto everyone else.
		So it's becoming sick and twisted to such a degree that you can't even talk about the official story anymore.
unidentified		Well, and it's so telling, too, because the things we care about, the things that we covered—war, empire, police brutality, mass surveillance—these are things that, to many people on the left who are principled, this is not taboo to discuss.
		We're not talking about things that are out—we weren't, you know, we weren't— We weren't noticeably right-wing in any way, so all I'm left to believe is that whoever made these decisions didn't like the lens we were framing it in.
		It wasn't that we were anti-war.
		It wasn't that we were against the empire.
		It was that we were framing it through an anarchist lens that was completely outside the realm of political solutions, like voting or something that people would consider acceptable.
		We were advocating an overhaul of the entire thing, and I'm left to—I mean, again, I can't say with any kind of certainty, but it seems like that was the issue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to address one of the superchats before we move on to the next segment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Normally we would just save it to the end, but people have pointed out that Ethan Klein has very, very offensive shows where he makes racial slurs and he says things like that and homophobic slurs.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes.
		I know.
		And I don't think that changes my point.
		I think my point is, him getting rid of the Jordan Peterson episode is because he's scared of the left going after him and getting him banned.
		So he's siding with them in hopes that it protects him and they won't go after him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The metaphor again is like if a doctor is like, hey, you have an infection, we're cutting it off.
		And you're like, ah, and then you start looking around at your body.
		You're like, that might be an infection.
		That looks like an infection.
		I'm cutting it off.
		He cuts that off.
		That might be an infection.
		Then everywhere he looks, he starts to see potential infection.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So he's cutting his own videos off.
		You're missing what I just said.
		He has a video on his channel, someone mentioned, where he says racial slurs over and over and over again.
		He hasn't deleted it.
		It's not an issue of him saying, I've done something wrong.
		It's an issue of him saying, and this proves my point.
		It's not about him agreeing with the left.
		It's not about him actually disagreeing with Jordan Peterson.
		It's about him saying, this is what will get me banned if leftists flag my videos.
		They're not gonna go after his iDubbbz thing.
		They don't care about iDubbbz.
		That's what they're mentioning, Idubbbz is the interview.
		They're going to go after Jordan Peterson, which will get him in trouble.
		So I think he's, whether he wants to acknowledge it or not, I think this plays a big role in his
		political shift. He's scared of getting cancelled. He's siding with them in hopes they don't flag
unidentified		his content. But you're saying he has homophobic content he's not deleting?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I wouldn't call it homophobic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would say that he's intentionally being offensive as possible by saying a racial and homophobic slur together over and over again.
unidentified		I would think that would be the first thing he would want to delete if he's concerned about people on the left coming after him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not if he sides with them, you see?
		Are they going to go after a YouTuber No.
		Are they going to go after Jordan Peterson?
		Yes.
		So he starts agreeing with them.
		He starts defending them.
		He starts saying, this seems safe and acceptable.
		They're not going to flag my content, but they would flag Jordan Peterson.
		I'm not saying he's the smartest guy in the world.
		I'm not saying he's perfect.
		And there's another comment where they're saying, I'm just defending him.
		I'm like, dude, first, first and foremost, I don't agree with his politics.
		That's fine.
		Criticize the guy all day and night.
		I'm pointing out There are people, like this is a guy who is just an edgy comedian.
		What does he know about politics?
		He's even said he doesn't know.
		And now he's getting inundated with attacks.
		So he decides to stay safe, to survive at all costs, like, um... Who mentioned this?
		Was it the other day they mentioned the Gulag Archipelago?
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's James.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		James?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, James O'Keefe.
unidentified		Right, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was mentioning survival at all costs.
		That's what this is.
		And it's strategic.
		If he really cared about what the left was saying, if he really believed it, he would have deleted that episode.
		He didn't.
		Which says to me, it is his fear of the culture war.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I got more that he wanted to do a high profile takedown of Jordan Peterson for views.
		That was my But he didn't make a video about it.
		He just tweeted about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm sure he talked about it on his new channel, but I don't think he's even done a full podcast episode.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're right.
		There's more to it.
		Yeah, yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He would have made a big deal out of it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But also, everyone's talking about him now, which also achieved the goal of getting attention for this, which could have been something that he was seeking, potentially.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And if he removed a bunch of ones, it wouldn't be... Now he gets to do... He can remove a video every two weeks and stay in the limelight.
		Nice job, Ethan.
		Come on, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about this story we got right here from the post-millennial.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		CNN plans to create a team dedicated to covering misinformation.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you feel like you have to jump down every rabbit hole you see?
		Do you get mad when you see liars taking advantage of people?
		I do, like Jake Tapper and Brian Stelter.
		And I don't even, I don't even, what was this guy's name?
unidentified		Jim Acosta.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jim Acosta.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Lubintubin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not Lubintubin.
unidentified		He's so irrelevant, I forgot the guy's name.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But these people lie Non-stop, then they go on their TV channel.
		That's that's dropped in ratings by 90% and they're they're yeah reliable sources I think I love the irony of the name right imagine imagine a fire department called like flaming fire truck I don't know if I'd want them to come but the fire is free Tim a fire truck on fire is is the best way to explain what reliable sources on CNN means.
		It is one of the least reliable sources, and now they're going to be telling us that they're making this, you know, anti-disinformation show.
		Alex Koppelman says, some very exciting media jobs tell you.
		I'm hiring three people for a new CNN team dedicated to covering misinformation.
		Thread about the team and job starts here.
		Please feel free to share far and wide, and if you're interested, reach out or apply at the links.
		You know, Part of me is frustrated that we talk about CNN because when I learned that their ratings were down by over 90% and they were getting between like 70 and 100,000 in the key demo, I was like, wow, we should just not talk about them anymore because they're irrelevant.
		But they still do have institutional authority.
		YouTube props them up, puts them on the front page, and then you get a hundred million plus YouTube views.
		So we need to make sure we're calling out all of the lies and manipulations from CNN.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		This is like Ian doing anti-drug commercials.
		This makes no sense at all.
		This is like the ultimate epitome of hypocrisy that we have to deal with.
		CNN being fact checkers?
		Are you kidding me?
		Like, I mean, what kind of parallel universe are we living in where they think they could pull this off?
		I mean, they have no credibility.
		They have been lying to the American people nonstop, 24-7, fear mongering.
		And they're losing the audience because the audience understands, like, hey, I don't want to be spoken down to.
		I don't want to have my thoughts controlled.
		I don't want to have my perspectives limited to what you want me to think.
		They're the perfect representatives, they're PR for the special ruling elite, and they're nothing else but that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I get angrier and angrier, you know, seeing what these people do.
		And maybe there's a lot of people who watch this and don't understand why I would be so pissed off at the things CNN does or MSNBC.
		And you know, just watching Rachel Maddow on the verge of tears when the Russiagate scandal was proven, the Russiagate thing was proven false, she was almost crying.
		I think I totally understand why so many people were laughing and so happy to see that pain.
		Schadenfreude.
		To see these evil people lie for now, now, I've been doing it forever, you know, but it's gotten so bad.
		And for the nerve of these people to just keep pushing the lies, like Cuomo, Chris Cuomo, faked being in quarantine.
		We all know it!
		And they still keep lying.
		What pisses me off is that people keep falling for it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I didn't fall for this.
		When you look at this picture of these dudes, I see airbrushed photography, really bright light coming from the left, shadow on the right to make them give this angelic glow.
		It just oozes with crap.
unidentified		Well, actually, that's Jake Tapper on the left, right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I feel really sad about Jake Tapper because I remember during the Obama years, he confronted, I want to say Jay Carney.
		He was the least bad.
		What?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He was the least bad.
unidentified		Yeah, he confronted Jay Carney.
		I think it was about the kill list, about Obama's kill list.
		And he was really forceful about it.
		I think it's probably still on YouTube.
		And then fast forward to the Trump years, and he's having a tantrum meltdown because Donald Trump didn't thank John McCain in the NDAA spending bill.
		Are you going to talk about indefinite detention built into that bill?
		You're going to talk about the billions of dollars spent on Empire?
		No, no.
		He's going to thank John McCain for his service because Donald Trump didn't.
		And it's just so sad to watch.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wonder about that too.
		Like, you know, we get wrapped up in so much of this culture war stuff, even talking about CNN.
		I wonder if that's what keeps us safe on YouTube.
		Because if we started talking about the NDAA, indefinite detention provision, and Obama and Biden killing kids, and the corruption, and we start getting deep on foreign policy, I bet then they would nuke us instantly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would be an example of not playing ball.
		Right now we're actually playing tennis with CNN, talking about how bad they are.
		We're keeping them prescient.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And relevant by talking about them.
unidentified		But I do wonder, like, who do they think this is for?
		Like, benefit of the doubt, they just have poor strategy and they think that they're going to actually reach people mired in disinformation.
		Like, benefit of the doubt, they're really doing—they think they're being really honorable journalists and they're trying to stop the spread of misinformation, but in reality, who's going to watch this?
		It's people who already agree with them, so that kind of just serves intentional or not.
		To deepen the divide and deepen the polarization where the people watching the show can be like, ha, look at those idiots.
		Look how stupid they are that they would believe that I'm better than them.
		They're other than me.
		And all that really does is perpetuate the division that's already so severe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Can you tell me the difference between misinformation and disinformation?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One is accidental.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One's intentional.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What's intentional offhand?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Misinformation is when people are just wrong and disinformation.
unidentified		I may have used that incorrectly or interchangeably, but yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking at this digital forensic research lab from the Atlantic Council and they're out to study disinformation and expose falsehood.
unidentified		Ooh, intentional propaganda.
unidentified		That's what we were doing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Intentional propaganda.
		Disinformation.
		That's the CIA's main...
		Operative modus operandi is disinformation.
unidentified		And what's so funny is with the anti-media, for example, it was our strategy to, as often as possible, cite mainstream news.
		Just to say, what are you going to say?
		We're quoting you.
		And if you dig into a lot of those mainstream articles, the information is there.
		They just don't lead with it.
		They don't emphasize it.
		You know, it's a byline or a scrolling marquee on a TV channel.
		The most of that information is out there.
		The New York Times was reporting on Obama's kill list during the Obama years.
		It's not that they're not covering it.
		It's just it's not propped up and blasted and it's not forced into the biggest narrative that they're pushing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you guys a question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't look at the screen.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll start with you, Carrie.
		CNN.
		11 p.m.
		slot.
		How many viewers in the key demo do you think Don Lemon got?
unidentified		What's the key demo?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		25 to 54.
		They call it the money demo.
		Major cable network, CNN, they're in hotels.
		How many Key Demo viewers do you think they would get?
unidentified		Generously, 75,000?
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're cheating, because that's 74,000.
unidentified		Oh, is it really?
		Nice.
		I didn't look, I swear.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's one day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		MSNBC, 11th Hour, how many do you think they got in the Key Demo?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		$50,000.
		$80,000.
		$85,000.
		And then Gutfeld on Fox News.
unidentified		$200,000.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		$343,000.
		So if you look at their ratings in general with the older crowd, it's a bit higher.
		I think it's $347,000.
		When you go to like 9 p.m., it's $169,000 in the key demo.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		So it's a little bit better than that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		10 p.m., $134,000.
		But Hannity's getting half a million.
		Carlson's getting $559,000.
		In general, with the older crowd, it's a bit higher. I think it's 347,000.
		When you go to like 9pm, it's 169,000 in the key demos.
		It's a little bit better than that. 10pm, 134,000.
		But Hannity's getting half a million. Carlson's getting 559,000.
		The interesting thing is, this is what's crazy to me, is our numbers are not too far off from that.
		Now that's in one hour.
		For us in about an hour, we're getting like 150 to 200,000 key demo viewers.
		This show is rivaling the likes of CNN.
		I just want to say, be optimistic.
		Yeah.
		We are winning.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How many interactions does CNN get?
		Zero.
		Because they're not built for it.
		It's an old media form.
unidentified		Right.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And how many people are passively watching it?
		And how many people are taking it seriously?
		And how many people are watching it just for the lows and just for the ridiculousness?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How many people are trapped in an airport?
		No, no, hotel lobbies because the airport thing ended.
		They canceled that contract.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do smart TVs measure if like three people are watching them now?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Have they figured out how to do that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but I have to imagine, you know, I've gone to, I've been in a lot of airports and whenever I would go in, they would have CNN on.
		And I don't mean like, they do these, they used to do this deal.
		Where the airport TVs would play it.
		I mean, like, I would go to a lounge for, like, the United Lounge or the American Lounge, and they would have three TVs, and they'd be playing, like, CNN and maybe sports, and I'd be like, can you turn that off?
		And they would be like, yeah.
		And they would pull up their remote, and they would turn it off.
		I'm like, I don't care what you put on, just change channel.
		Because that stuff is mind-melting garbage.
		And you know what?
		I did favors.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is your key demo number from one night?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that what that is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we actually, you know, Timcast IRL gets, we do the two hour show and it's close to like half a million in the key demo within two hours.
		So if we were, I don't know, after one hour, it's actually like two thirds of the views of the first hour and then it goes down.
		So we're probably getting like 250 to 300,000 key demo viewers in one hour.
		And if you look at that, we're half of Carlson.
		We're around half of Henry or Laura Ingraham or Gutfeld, which makes sense, but we're like at or twice as much as what CNN and MSNBC get.
		Granted, Rachel Maddow beats us.
		She got 311,000 key demo viewers.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Was it you that I was shooting this TV Be Gone video with a couple years ago?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We were literally walking around.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was a decade ago, bro!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		Potato, potato.
		But there's this TV Be Gone device that literally was able to turn off every single television.
		Me and Tim went on doing important work by literally walking around and shutting off
		all the corporate media that was in Times Square, in restaurants, in, of course, major bars
		and entertainment areas.
		It got tense a couple times when I had that with me on other occasions when we weren't filming.
		But we literally made a video, like, we gotta save people and we're gonna use this device
		by turning off TVs everywhere.
		We accidentally turned off a menu for a pizza restaurant.
		I remember that.
		Because when you press it, it just automatically gives all the TV codes signals all at once and turns it all off.
		But seriously, turn off the programming, turn off the conditioning.
		Watching CNN, it's nauseating.
		It raises your blood pressure.
		It's nothing but constant low vibrational fear, nonsense, crap.
		And it really doesn't serve you in any way, shape, or form.
		It doesn't keep you informed.
		It does the opposite of that.
		It makes you misinformed about what's really happening in this world.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't remember who we were talking about with this, but you go to YouTube and you search for a news story.
		Like, if... You're not gonna get a YouTuber.
		You're gonna get CNN, CBS.
		The crazy thing is, if you search for something on YouTube that might not be related to news, you'll get news.
		You search for anything political, and instead of getting information from like an educational source, you'll get CNN.
		You'll get CBS or PBS.
		It's just weird.
unidentified		And it's fascinating, too, because their numbers aren't that great, even getting prioritized by these big tech platforms.
		I remember Facebook had a whole program, it must have been 2015-16, to prop up reliable news sources.
		And it was like Fox News, CNN, MSNBC.
		And even then, they still weren't getting the engagement and the reach and the shares that people like, that the anti-media was getting.
		Not just us, but a lot of independent news organizations.
		And that was being, not only having huge followings, but also being propped up by these institutions.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Anderson Cooper, Mr. Vanderbilt, had a special deal with Facebook that literally was making sure that they had Facebook-exclusive content available to everyone, shoving it down their throats, shoving it down their algorithms, and they were playing it in my newsfeed, everyone's newsfeed, and they stopped that partnership because no one was watching it.
		No one wants to watch deep state television.
		No one wants to watch something that disrespects their intellect.
		in the basic understanding of human life.
		And I remember there used to be a time a few years ago where I would just have CNN on because they weren't as sensationalistic, they weren't as bombastic, they weren't as crazy.
		But still, back then, even a few years ago, I would have it on because they would have, you know, good breaking news coverage and I was monitoring the news and it was somewhat okay, still kind of low vibrational, but not as bad.
		Now, I literally feel sick watching them.
		I literally feel nauseous and I'm like, I can't, this is absolutely a weaponized infotainment that's meant to hurt people in so many extensive ways.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Terrain theory of disease, Luke, your body is mirroring the neurons of the people you're watching.
		So when you watch one like Brian Stelter, and he's all stressed out and hates his life, that you're going to start, your body is going to start mimicking that behavior of stress.
		Maybe not necessarily, but that's the theory of like terrain theory of disease is involved with that and mirror neurons and things like that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Part of it, if you hear someone sniffling on the phone when you're talking to them, it might actually make you sniffle, you know?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Or yawning.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yawning is another example of it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So watch out what you expose your brain to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's do a hard segue.
		We'll talk about what's going on with the truckers.
		We got this story from Global News.
		Crossing delayed Monday at Manitoba U.S.
		border as truckers protest vaccine mandate.
		Have you guys seen this?
		A bunch of truckers blocked both directions, the Canadian U.S.
		border, so that it was difficult to enter and difficult to leave because Canada is going to be imposing a vaccine mandate where if you are a U.S.
		citizen, a trucker, you can't enter Canada unless you're vaccinated.
		And if you're a Canadian trucker and you enter and you're not vaccinated, you have to quarantine.
		So naturally people are protesting, and at a time when there's already shortages, at a time when the policies in this regard have already failed, it seems like... I'm sorry man, I know people don't like hearing it, but...
		It's almost intentional gutting of the system.
		Because you know truckers aren't going to go for this.
		And you know without them, you won't get food.
		So why do it?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's like they're trying to destroy the economy on purpose.
		It's like they're trying to have something like a great reset.
		It's like they're trying to destroy the current system that we're living under in order to rebuild back a new one that works in their favor.
		And I think chaos is the name of the game.
		I think that's what they're trying to achieve.
		There's always this kind of prevailing idea of order out of chaos.
		And if you look at a lot of the moves that governments have been making throughout human history, those are the moves that they're making.
		They create chaos.
		They thrive off that situation.
		They create the problem.
		They have a reaction that they know is going to be created by it.
		And of course, then they bring in the solution, which works in their favor because there's no explanation.
		This is not based on any... Why are they doing this?
		There's no science.
		There's no data.
		There's no information saying that this is going to help anyone except destroy the economy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got this story from Timcast.
		The trucking industry is in need of an estimated 80,000 drivers.
		So what's the plan?
		Teenagers are more likely to get the VAX, so the truckers who quit over the VAX mandate will be replaced by teenagers?
		Is that what's happening?
		I gotta say, man, look, I feel like a chicken in a chicken coop.
		I got no idea what their plan is.
		It doesn't make sense.
		People are taking dumps in their water and then claiming they're not, and I'm just like, you know, let me just say, people underestimate how clowned out the clown world is.
		There's a video I tweeted about, you know, some person saying their pronouns are clown and clown self, and I'm like, yeah, that about explains it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I'm thinking about the bombing of London.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You brought this up last week during the Blitzkrieg.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Mike Rowe brought it up.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Mike Rowe brought this up.
		And after a few days of bombing, they just climbed out of the basement and got back to life as normal because you have no other choice.
		It was a real emergency.
		You had to take back control of your life.
		Okay, I don't want to step out.
		I don't want to say something that I regret later, but this is not the bombing of London, what we're going through right now.
		People are not getting their bodies exploded and running for their life.
		So, is this a real emergency?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Rat utopia.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm sorry.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When you compare it to war, it's not like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The rat hope experiment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They put us under lockdown, everyone panics, begins to go nuts, then they take us out, dry us off, put us back in, and then we swim for 60 hours.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if this was a real emergency, we wouldn't be waiting for authority to give us the go-ahead.
unidentified		Well, to play devil's advocate, and I'm not saying that this is what I believe, I'm just saying, like, is there any other reason why they would be doing this?
		I absolutely believe there are people in power who are doing this for control, for authority, but I'm wondering, like, Aren't there people in positions of power who genuinely believe in themselves and are just as caught as people watching MSNBC and genuinely believe that this is going to work?
		Through their arrogance and their certainty about their version of reality, they think that if they do this, they are going to get people to get vaccinated.
		I'm not saying it's right, but is it possible that it's not always sinister?
		It's not always nefarious and manipulative.
		It's actually just people who are also programmed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, then we got a problem because there's a zombie horde taking over and they're marching through the streets.
		They're unable to tell.
		You know what it is?
		I explained this of Jack Dorsey.
		He creates Twitter.
		Twitter creates fertile ground for the refuse of the far-left broken ideologies.
		Jack Dorsey, having created Twitter and now following people who are trapped in the sewer of Twitter, he begins drinking his own refuse and believing his own insanity.
		And then his opinions get shaped, thinking this is reality, when in reality he made a big toilet.
		A big toilet for people to take dumps into with their garbage ideas.
		He absorbs those garbage ideas, thinks they're real.
		So what we have is, there's a possibility that there is a cabal of powerful individuals who are pulling the strings with big corporate donations, with lobbying and things like that.
		And I think that's true, obviously, to a certain extent.
		But it's entirely possible that crackpot idiots on CNN follow other crackpot idiots, and they recycle information, playing a big game of telephone, and then, here's what happens.
		Somebody writes an article and they're like, I need clicks.
		So they're like, I think Trump is a fascist.
		So Trump, is Trump behaving like a fascist?
		Print.
		Then their friend following them sees it and they go, did you read that article talking about Trump acting like a fascist?
		You know, it's pretty fascistic.
		So then this guy then writes an article saying Trump is a fascist.
		Then his friend sees it and says, whoa, Trump is like the fascists.
		He's like Mussolini.
		Then he writes Trump is like Mussolini.
		Then someone sees it and says, no, no, no, not like Mussolini, he's like Hitler.
		Then they write Trump is like Hitler.
		Then someone else says like Trump, Trump is as bad as Hitler.
		And then someone goes, he's worse.
		They're all just basically swimming in a circle of their own sewage.
		Exciting themselves.
		And then after a week of telephone, they're all screaming that Trump is the reemergence of Hitler.
		And it's like, yo, you guys are nuts.
		Calm down.
		Stop drinking each other's waste and just actually get out there and talk to real people.
		They don't do it.
		So now they're screaming, Bill Maher brings it up, that Democrats were polled and they were asked what the likelihood was, percentage-wise, of needing hospitalization if you get COVID, and they said 50%.
		And he was like, what?
		Republicans and independent voters got it right, 5%.
		But these are people who believe each other, hyping each other up, constantly one-upping garbage fake news until they're like, lock the whole country down, burn it to the ground, otherwise everyone dies.
		They are running around screaming, the sky is falling, and for some reason we've been listening to them and arguing with them instead of just excising them from political discourse and saying, do whatever you want, I'll be over here living.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I disagree with both of you guys.
		Surprise, surprise.
		I believe it's a conspiracy.
		Because for this kind of ignorance to be perpetrated, right?
		I'm not saying it's not.
		I might be wrong.
		But for this type of policy to be implemented because of popular support, people have to say to themselves, the vaccine mandates worked so great that we have to implement more vaccine mandates.
		And I think it's pretty clear to the average person paying attention that they absolutely did it.
		I mean, there's even Trudeau and Fauci coming out on record saying that these mandates, these vaccine mandates, Aren't about health.
		They're about convincing other people to take the shot.
		So this kind of fervent policymaking that clearly is disrupting the economy clearly is going to have negative effects when already the store shelves are barren in some places when already the supply chain has been disrupted asking for more supply chain disruptions is literally creating chaos.
		So I'm sticking to what I personally believe in.
		That's my personal feeling and I could be wrong because I don't think it's idiots leading the herd.
		I think it's Uh, you know, a few powerful people creating the idiots that are bringing them along, but there's not a lot of them, uh, still when it comes to the bigger official story of COVID, which is breaking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's make a short film.
		Zombie apocalypse happens.
		And it's like, it starts off very much like a zombie movie.
		It's like, run, you know, get the shotgun.
		Oh, Jesus, zombies are coming.
		And then we'll have Ian be like, you know, I was listening to what they were saying.
unidentified		Ugh!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I kind of agree.
		I'm gonna go join them.
		And we're like, no, Ian!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm just gonna go talk to them.
		I'll be back.
		You think I should just full-on just go join them?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like it kind of makes sense.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'll come in the middle of the night.
		I'll wake you up.
		Tim, I've been listening to the zombies.
unidentified		They've been telling me- I don't have to make any tough decisions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, you got to be like- It's easier.
		They've been saying brains so much.
		I kind of wonder if eating brains does make sense.
		I think we should consider, like, Ian, you're turning into one of them.
		And they don't actually bite you to make you a zombie.
		You just listen to them enough and then you start believing brains.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've been listening to it on repeat on YouTube, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All the zombies, they actually aren't infected with anything.
		They're just all scared to step out of line because the other zombies will attack them if they act like they're not zombies.
		So it's actually a horde of people pretending to be zombies.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's mass formation psychosis.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is.
		That would be actually a funny little skit to do.
		Where it's just like a bunch of people who are like, I'm a zombie and no one dare step out of line.
		And then one guy goes, wait a minute, you guys aren't actually zombies?
		And they're like, brains!
		And they attack them and they're all looking around like, oh, I'm a zombie.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I got a question for you guys.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Justin Trudeau, is he evil mastermind or is he fool that's being provoked by the evil mastermind?
unidentified		He seems like a mastermind to me.
		I don't know how blatantly he's just willing to say like, yeah, we're going to violate your rights.
		We don't.
		And maybe he's just so far gone that he thinks that's acceptable because I know there are a lot of people who feel that way.
		But he was dealing arms to the Saudis for years, and it's been well documented how their human rights track record and what they do in Yemen.
		And he had no problem arming them.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's true and true and authoritarian.
		He's a communist.
		He loves centralization.
		He was literally cheerleading China because of the way that they run their economy.
		You know, China literally destroys human rights for their economy and this is something that Trudeau openly praises and looks up to.
		I don't know his dad, but his dad was the prime minister before him.
		I would say sociopath that's been put in a position of power that's playing out the agenda of the World Economic
		Forum of the Davos group and is reading the handbook and following every single procedure that they ask him to
		follow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know his dad, but his dad was the prime minister before him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fidel Castro.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Father Fidel.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Fidel?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a joke.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Was his dad notoriously authoritarian or?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People keep posting photos of him next to Fidel Castro.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He looks like Fidel Castro.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You look like Putin.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to hold it against you.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I do look like Putin.
		If Putin, Bill Maher, and Julian Assange had a love child, I would pop out.
		But that's a different story.
		I don't think I'm related to Putin.
		Who knows?
		I hope you are.
		This would explain why he's an authoritarian communist because you know Fidel was an authoritarian communist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's like a long lost autobiography from Putin where he talks about how he once ventured to Poland in the mid 80s
		and had an affair.
		And he's like I am your father.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well I was a part of the resistance against the Soviet Union so when Putin was a KGB agent my family was going up
		against the communists a part of the Solidarnost movement in northern Poland and Gdynia.
		dancing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if there was like a whirlwind affair where Vladimir is like, I cannot be with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is forbidden.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So there could be a Star Wars movie here with me and Putin being on opposing sides and then my family helping take down the Soviet Union, which of course is the evil empire which Putin was a KGB agent of.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That is possible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the better story is that Putin had a series of clones made when he was in the KGB.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		In case I fail, they will succeed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and Luke is programmed to be activated as a sleeper agent for the Soviet Union.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We'll make a clone with different mindsets.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		One that's very anarchist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is very important news we're discussing right now.
		Yeah, it's very important.
		There are a lot of people who, I see comments when they're saying, you know, it's too pessimistic to talk about things falling apart.
		And I'm like, what should we talk about?
		No, I mean that sincerely.
		I think watching the media collapse is not bad news.
		I think it's a good thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I find that watching CNN trying to think your way out of the psychosis doesn't work.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's like no thought is the way to get away from that stuff, which is why I usually turn off the TV and step outside or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you turn the TV off and go outside and ignore the mainstream media and just say, like, tend to your goats or chickens for a week, when you turn the TV on, it'll be like watching Saturn.
		It'll be a different planet.
		You'll be like, what?
		What are they talking about?
		Because the news changes so rapidly these days.
		Like, if you listen to Dr. Fauci, I mentioned this, you know, a while back.
		He'll come out and he'll be like, you don't need to be wearing two masks.
		But then three days later, he's like, you should be wearing two masks.
		And then you get one person who watched one story, and then didn't see the update, and the other person who sees the update, and now they're arguing online about who's right and who's wrong.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, I bet you could spend seven days away and miss the news cycle changing three times and come back and not even know it changed.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And have nothing to argue about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think, no, no, I think it'll be like, you know, Fauci will come out.
		I mean, Joe Biden comes out.
		Joe Biden said that the vaccines would stop the spread of the pandemic.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not what they're saying now.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if you were someone who passively watched the news and heard Biden say that, you'd be like, oh, how about that?
		Today you turn the news on and they're saying something totally different.
		You'd be like, What?
		Did I, like, go into the Twilight Zone or something?
		Do these people forget?
		Do they have amnesia?
		That's the funniest thing.
		When there are people on Twitter tweeting at me being like, uh, duh, the vaccines do X. And I'm like, that's not what Joe Biden or Fauci or the CDC director said three months ago.
		I understand science changes, But isn't it a bit too rapid?
		Because if it is changing this rapidly, then there's no plan, and it's very likely to change again.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You have to be... Sorry, go ahead.
unidentified		No, go ahead.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'll just go really quickly.
		You have to be traumatized to believe the official story, and there's a lot of people who are traumatized that the corporate media and the politicians scare the crap out of every single day, and that's the only way that they could get them in a state that's irrational, not paying attention, and has them going along with The big overlord state saying we will protect you when of course they're doing the complete opposite of that.
		Sorry, go ahead.
unidentified		No, I was just going to say, like, OK, yes, science does change.
		But it would go a very long way if the people who are constantly changing the opinions could just acknowledge, OK, well, it changed.
		It's wrong.
		And you don't see that.
		You see people getting gaslit and people being blamed and being shamed for questioning things when it's always changing.
		Like, how can you not have a healthy level of skepticism?
		You're allowed to notice that there are discrepancies.
		And sure, OK, science may explain that.
		But if you could just drop the arrogance and the hubris about it, I think they would have a lot Just do what the government tells you.
		people they think need to hear it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What wasn't our good friend, wasn't it our good friend Ethan Klein who said you don't
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		even need to think?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't he say that?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's why.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He said just go to the government's website, you don't even need to think.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Just do what the government tells you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm like wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It'll be life-looking easier.
		I mean, I kind of read history books when I was growing up.
		You don't do that.
		In fact, we were always told that dissent was patriotic in this country.
		Now you have this massive group of people who are like, dissent is insurrection.
		It's wrong.
		Don't do it.
		Just do what you're told.
		This is the funny thing about the vaccine mandates.
		When they say the vaccine mandates work, but New York is experiencing a major surge in COVID cases,
		what they're really saying is the vaccines force people to get vaccinated.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The mandates do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry. The mandates work. And what they mean is it's forcing people to get it.
		I thought they meant, or initially, and I probably shouldn't assume this,
		that it was going to actually stem the spread because Joe Biden said that.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now they're saying that's not the case.
		It's to reduce the severity.
		And I'm like, well, the hospitals are overloaded.
		Fact.
		And there's record-breaking amounts of COVID.
		Also a fact.
		Tons of people are getting it.
		I mean, Glenn Beck had it recently.
		Mike Rowe mentioned he had it over Christmas.
		I think Crowder had it.
		I could be wrong.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's getting it.
		So Now they're saying, well, it was never supposed to stop the spread.
		It was supposed to reduce the severity of symptoms.
		And I'm like, Joe Biden actually said that it would, you know, it would all be over.
		They actually said several times, once everyone gets vaccinated, you don't got to wear masks and the pandemic will end.
		And it's not ending.
		Now, I think it's fair to say, okay, maybe they got it wrong, but at a certain point they should be like, it's probably going to change.
		We don't know for sure, but everyone's so Sure of themselves.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they didn't know that had waning immunity.
		So how did they know anything else surrounding this?
		Yeah, exactly the same thing pretty much.
		But the official story has changed so many times that these bureaucrats have flip-flopped so many times.
		It's difficult to even understand where we're at right now.
		And I think the strategy that they're implementing right now is let's just spin people around so they get confused that don't know what's going on.
		And it's all going to be scary unless you just obey us.
		That's the policy that they have implemented because it's only going to be a certain time now where people are going to be like, OK, I'm going to stop spinning now.
		I'm going to start paying attention to what's going on here.
		Because we've been bamboozled.
		We've been lied to.
		And I think this larger mass awakening is happening, and it's going to have some very severe effects on our society and our political system.
		This is why the Democrats are giving up COVID, in my opinion, right before this upcoming election, because they can't win with this policy that has destroyed people's lives and only enriched the billionaire class.
		They can't.
		I don't see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think people want to accept that when I say, not everybody, just there are some people who don't want to accept, when I say that the country is breaking apart or that states are breaking apart, I don't see that as a bad thing.
		I mean, Luke brought up peaceful divorce a while ago.
		Michael Malice has talked about it.
		So Hawaii recently announced that you need a booster shot to enter the state.
		California wants to double their taxes so they can pay for universal health care.
		Well, obviously, California will struggle to make that work.
		I mean, they're gonna require heavy subsidy.
		Rich people are just gonna walk out of the state.
		Then they're gonna try and tax them 10 years after the fact.
		That's one thing they announced.
		And then you're gonna see a bunch of poor people flood into the state to get free health care.
		Clearly doesn't work, but hey, let people go to the state they want with the laws they want.
		People will leave.
		If there ends up being some kind of fracturing of this country, it means, yo, I'm gonna go to West Virginia, I'm gonna have all my guns.
		I'll be very pleased and happy.
		And then the people who don't like guns and want them banned can go to California.
		And then they can have free healthcare.
		What's the problem?
		How is that a bad thing?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What about artillery?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		All of it, legalized.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Artillery can fire across state lines.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What if it's banned in one state, but it's legal in the other state?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's too bad for the state that banned it, I guess.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like an arms race.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
unidentified		War is bad, don't go to war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thomas Massey tweeted, what piece of Second Amendment legislation should we push if we take control?
		And everyone was like, abolish the ATF, repeal the NFA.
		And I'm like, yes, those things.
		I went further and I said, gun mandates.
		If you want to go out to a diner, you got to have proof of gun and you've got to be able to show that it's loaded.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Proof of gun.
unidentified		Proof of gun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you'll walk up to the diner and they'll be like, we have a gun mandate in this city.
		If you want to come in, you have to be armed.
		And you'll be like, oh, I've got my 1911 right here.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've got my proof on my right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've got a revolver.
		Let me show you my 38 or whatever.
		And you can walk in maybe with a rifle.
		You've got to have a gun.
		Gun mandates.
		Mandatory gun ownership.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, speaking about this specific topic that we were just talking about, it's also important to note that England is looking at getting rid of their health pass.
		They're looking to get rid of their vaccine passport system, which soon will be implemented.
		This is a huge shift in the narrative As of course there's major scientific studies there's a lot of information coming out that clearly is disrupting this entire official story of what they've been telling us from the very beginning so this whole narrative is collapsing this there's a lot of important reasons to be extremely optimistic I've been talking about this weeks ago I'm saying with this latest variant there's a big probability even according to the World Health Organization that announced
		that this is going to be the end of COVID potentially in 2022. So there's a lot of
		mainline institutions, there's a lot of mainline doctors talking about what we were talking months
		ago, and there's this meme going around that I tweeted that specifically shows, you know,
		the talking points that this administration and that these authorities had from the very beginning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You die but you go to heaven.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That said, 95% protection in May, June 70% protection, August no protection but reduces
		spread, September doesn't reduce spread but reduces severity, October doesn't reduce severity
		but reduces hospitalizations, November doesn't reduce hospitalizations but you aren't going
		to die, and then December you die but you go to heaven.
		it.
		That's a good one.
		It's a joke, YouTube.
		Calm down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everyone can go talk to their doctors.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Again, not a medical doctor.
		Not here giving you any kind of medical advice.
		We're not here to do that.
		We're here to point out that there's elements of people making fun of what we've been told and exaggerating it because it's already been exaggerated to such an extensive level that it's hard for people to pay attention to even what's going on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you said that in 2022, we might see the end of COVID, according to the World Health Organization.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I would point out that maybe not the end of COVID, the end of COVID hysteria, but that the virus itself, I've heard that it supposedly will be endemic, meaning that we're just going to live with the thing, the coronavirus.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		one theory out there. There's another theory that this latest variant is
		spreading so fast that it's going to create natural immunity. It's less
		severe, less people are gonna end up in the hospital, so everyone's going to get
		it because of how fast it spreads to everyone and then essentially it will
		kind of die out and phase out from here because everyone will have immunity.
		Or just live with us forever as we're immune.
		But when you look at coronaviruses, there's usually a specific trend of how they kind of operate, of how they
		infect people and how they stop infecting people based on those mutations.
		So if we're following the basic procedures of how previous coronavirus, SARS and MERS, have affected the world, it's logical to believe that this is going to happen here.
		Dr. Fauci has a different story saying there's going to be another variant that's going to be really bad.
		But of course, he, of course, has an invested interest in keeping this storyline going because his entire career is made On the severity of this sickness so obviously has a conflict of interest again.
		These are some of the debates happening within the scientific community that I think are extremely important right now and I think are important to pay attention to because if this is the case there's going to be some significant political changes in our society when we come to the end of this and people feel bamboozled.
		I hope that we can, as a species, learn to kind of live maybe in a more coherent manner with viruses in general.
		I just looked it up.
		380 trillion viruses inside of the human body?
		this are going to be with us for years to come after this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I hope that we can as a species learn to kind of live maybe in a more coherent manner with
		viruses in general.
		I just looked it up.
		380 trillion viruses inside of the human body.
		380 trillion.
		How many of those are hurting us?
		Hardly any of them, if any of them.
		They live in symbiosis with us, that's the point.
		So I don't see why that can't happen with Corona.
		In fact, it looks like we're on track, as you see the different variants appear.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The most successful viruses you don't even know you have.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They sit in your body, they do virus stuff, but they don't cause enough problems for you to actually care about it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine some of them help you.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I gotta go deeper into it or get a virologist on the show or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's that one parasite that makes you love cats.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes!
		Taxoplasmosis, which a lot of people in Brazil have.
		There's a fascinating video of Rogan talking to Alex Jones about it, and they go off.
		I don't know if that video clip is still on YouTube, but it is terrifying to find out about the effects of taxoplasmosis.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, some people get schizophrenia.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It literally creates the crazy cat lady syndrome.
		Like the basic stereotypical understanding of a crazy cat lady.
		Obsessive, loving of her cats.
		This is something that of course cats have as a mechanism for their survival when they kind of have this virus that's in poop that makes rats love them.
		So there's elements of this, according to some medical studies, highlighting how there's similar effects on the human brain that cause women and men to be impulsive, causes them to also be affected by this in a very negative state.
		But again, viruses are something that we have been dealing with from the beginning of humanity.
		It's something that, of course, is not going away.
		And I think there's a lot of important learning lessons from everything that happened within the last two years that we should really Learn from and not repeat those mistakes that were made.
unidentified		I remember when I was growing up, I had a lot of important learning lessons.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Like, what was the most important one?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The most important learning lesson?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, just, you know, reading about the history of World War II.
		Learning lessons were really important for me as a kid.
		Did you experience learning lessons?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I learned a lot of lessons.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Is learning lessons another lewkism?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You didn't even know it was a lewkism!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I was saying!
unidentified		I didn't know!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's a learning lesson!
unidentified		What?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You have a lesson and you learn from it!
unidentified		That makes sense!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I like it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I'm going to make up all the words I want to make up, OK?
		It makes sense.
		You guys know exactly what I'm saying.
		And I might even make my own learning lessons about this.
unidentified		Well, speaking of learning lesson, if we're going to move on, I just want to say before that, I know I think this all started because of a comment that said it's really cynical to talk about how everything's falling apart.
		But speaking of lessons in history, I just want to point out, I do see how it can sound cynical and it can often be depressing.
		And there is often a sense of hopelessness.
		But if you do look at history, regimes fall.
		People resist.
		I'm sure there are some exceptions to this, I don't want to say always, but the grand scheme of history and all of the empires and all of the authoritarians who've ruled over people, eventually it falls.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		All empires collapse?
unidentified		I think so.
unidentified		I know China's still going pretty strong, but how long have they actually been in power?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		70 years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's true, but have they had mind control technology?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And artificial intelligence, which is going to be the next nuclear weapon.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		A lot of arguments against anarchists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And mass surveillance.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		A lot of arguments against anarchists in the Second Amendment is, are you going to allow people to have nuclear weapons?
		Well, literally, there's private individuals and corporations creating weapons that are even far more superior and more powerful than nuclear weapons.
		That specifically is artificial intelligence.
		And that's happening right now with collusion of the state.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you, what's scarier for you?
		The fact that certain states have nuclear bombs, warheads, or the fact that private, unaccountable individuals can post your web browser history?
		I mean, I gotta be honest, I'm not worried about nuclear war.
		You know what I mean?
		I'm honestly not super scared about, I don't like the spying or anything, but I'm sure there's a lot of people who are like, you know, look, people cheating on their wives is a good example.
		Yeah, Facebook knows if you're cheating on your wife.
		Young women who are pregnant don't want their parents to find out or their boyfriends to find out.
		Big tech knows all of that.
		And there was even, wasn't it like the NSA were tubing it to pick private phones?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, NSA agents were caught.
		Lube and tubing it to people's private photos that they were sharing with their loved ones unsuspectingly.
		It's not like they put published it.
		It was private messages between loved ones that the NSA intercepted and decided to entertain themselves with in many unspeakable ways.
		Family-friendly show.
		You get the gist of what I'm trying to say here.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How did they get caught?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did someone walk in and they're like, what?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember the exact details of this, but this was a mainline story even before Edward Snowden came out saying, hey, the NSA are doing this.
		This is how they got... TSA agents also have an extremely horrible record of abusing their power with individuals that they have to engage with and act with.
		I think you were talking about a lot of those stories, Carrie, when you were working in alternative media, specifically the stories that have been significantly underplayed but are significant to our way of life.
		Which one was, do you think, in your opinion, one of the most kind of egregious ones when it comes to government abuse of power?
unidentified		Abuse of power in general or surveillance?
		Both.
		Well, I mean, obviously what Snowden cracked open with all of his—I don't even want to say leaks, because he was so careful about releasing it.
		But nonetheless, I'm actually looking it up, and apparently it was Snowden who said that the NSA would intercept nude pics.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, he said that he confirmed it, but there's even before that I was even before that mainline articles talking about this which Again is just I mean imagine imagine having a private moment where you were loved on and then there's fat cat bureaucrats Becky's siphoning through all your private, most intimate moments, and they're using it for their own bastardized way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's do one more segment.
		We got the story from Fortune.
		Fauci says there are five stages of the COVID pandemic, and we are still in phase one.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh no!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what else you want me to say, guys.
		You know, that's it.
		He says the first phase of the pandemic, or the truly pandemic, according to Fauci, is where the world is really very negatively impacted.
		The following four steps are deceleration, control, elimination, and finally eradication.
		Here are the characteristics, blah, blah, blah.
		Okay, so he's basically saying, get ready, it's not going to end.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's like, everything that My career is based on, is gonna be around for a while, just so you know.
		With the COVID pandemic goes away, Fauci goes away and he knows it.
		I've never even heard of the guy until this thing appeared.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, people in the 80s knew who he was.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I guess, yeah.
unidentified		I'm just like, I look at this and it's like...
		All this says to me is that the government failed.
		Despite all of their efforts and all of their claims of certainty that they knew exactly what to do to fix it, here we are.
		And this is just like an advertisement against government policy to see this guy just saying, no, this is as far as we've gotten.
		And despite all of this, no, we're still in stage one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's been two years and we're still in stage one.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Two weeks to slow the spread, but there's some good news here.
		There's some really good news here because this is Dr. Fauci saying it.
		The guy flip-flops and is wrong on almost everything, which means he's probably wrong about this as well, which means we're probably closer to the end than the actual starting point.
		But for again, Fauci, a lot of invested interest.
		He's one of the few bureaucrats that actually makes more money from his side hustles than he does from his government job.
		His government job pays him more than any other bureaucrat in Washington DC.
		So he's making a lot of money.
		There was recent financial transactions that were released showing that he has at least 10 million dollars in assets.
		And this is a man who's been working for the government almost his entire life.
		Where has those millions of dollars come from?
		Well, of course, those are important questions that a lot of people should be asking.
		He has a lot of connections to a lot of very powerful individuals.
		And of course, as we know, everything that the United States has been involved in has been a big business against the American people.
		But how do you see this kind of unfolding, Kerry?
		How do you see this COVID landscape, this Dr. Fauci landscape moving from this particular moment in time?
unidentified		Honestly, I mean, it's just my opinion.
		I thought Hillary Clinton was going to win in 2016.
		So, you know, take it for what it's worth.
		But being from Los Angeles and having spent a lot of the pandemic there, I think it's going to be very difficult for the federal government, even for state governments, local governments to keep enforcing this because people are burned out.
		And Los Angeles is one of the most compliant places in the country, as far as I could tell.
		And it's policy-wise and just the people in general.
		But even at this point, there are people, they can't do it anymore.
		They're sick of it.
		Even people who got vaccinated, and now they feel that they were misled.
		I don't want to say lied to, because sure, the science changed.
		But there are people who feel that even though they followed all of these protocols, they followed all the policies, they obeyed, they did what they were told to be good people, and still it hasn't been resolved.
		I'm telling you Los Angeles is such a liberal place and I left for six weeks in the fall and I came back and there was way less compliance like there were people in stores not wearing masks and nobody said anything whereas before I left that you didn't see that that wasn't a thing and I know that people are burned out because of what I'm seeing in Los Angeles where it's heavily liberal and people really had good intentions about stopping this part of the pandemic and doing everything they could to end it.
		I have a friend who got vaccinated and Now he's being told, well actually it doesn't work, you have to get another, and he's not doing it because he felt he did it for the sake of doing his part in stopping the spread.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bill Maher said the same thing.
		He took one for the team and now they're not going to convince him to do it again.
		But the problem is if you trust the science and if the official narrative is, the statements from the CDC and all that, is you need to get your booster, then who are you to challenge the system?
		If you're doing your part, why would you stop now?
		Now, I will always stress, you know, get your advice from trusted medical professionals.
		Don't look at me about it.
		But I will add one of my favorite memes is Fauci as Vader saying, I have altered the science.
		Pray I don't alter it further.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The point of this is never to eradicate the virus.
		From day one, it was to stop, to slow the spread in 15 days so that we don't overload the hospitals.
		End of story.
		Let the thing run its course.
		Don't overload the hospitals.
		That was the plan.
		Not this five point thing where number five is eradication of the virus.
		This isn't polio.
unidentified		Right and it's weird because I remember that talking point it was we have to not overwhelm hospitals and I'm looking at this just as I'm looking at this article and it's like you guys have had two years and you haven't been able to get hospitals the resources they need and I'm supposed still supposed to take your advice and listen you not even advice commands and those obey your commands when you couldn't even solve the initial problem that all this was for and you've had all this time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, one thing I feel like we should probably mention more though with all of this is as much as policy-wise, I think our position is very clear.
		It's very libertarian or even anarchic for you guys.
		I also think it's important to point out there's probably really serious long-term health effects for COVID that aren't even being picked up right now.
		And so I say this because, you know, it's now been several months for us, but I still feel a presence from having COVID.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I can feel it in my back from time to time.
		It's still here.
		I can tell.
		I just have an immunity to it now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think we're all over.
		I think we're past it.
		But people get scarring in their lungs.
		And I think you've got on the left a complete Overhyping of everything.
		Panic.
		Nonstop panic.
		You have many on the right who are just like, be done with it.
		We can't, you know, and I would agree more with that.
		It's like, look, I actually, I recognize it's really bad.
		I get it.
		I think we should continue to push for scientific breakthroughs on this stuff.
		I think we should also remind people Yo, I'm concerned about the long-term health effects of what COVID comes to bring.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I eat crappy food, I lose my smell after COVID.
		I eat garlic and onion, I regain my smell.
		It's not COVID's fault, obviously.
		It's dietary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point I'm trying to make is...
		You know, I think it was, uh, who was it?
		Was it was, uh, somebody tweeted, don't underestimate it.
		It was a conservative we have had in the show saying like, it's really, it is really, really bad.
		Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
		And I think that's important.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I still can't taste or smell.
unidentified		Really?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Try dosing yourself with onion and garlic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I'll put it this way.
		I just don't want to get lost in being upset about policy to make it seem like we would downplay the sickness.
		We talk about how you probably won't be hospitalized, you'll probably get better, but there are long-term effects and I think that's a fair point to make.
unidentified		And I think that's what's so frustrating for some people, at least.
		Like, someone like me, like, I took it seriously.
		I was considerate of other people.
		And yet I'm still thrown into this category of just a crazy QAnon right-wing Nazi Trump supporter, when in fact, like, I've never said that COVID wasn't serious.
		It's not going to be as serious for some people as others.
		I had COVID.
		I was fine.
		It was pretty mild.
		I lost my sense of smell, but other than that, yeah, I was really tired, and my fever never went above 99.
		So, like, people have different responses.
		It's not to say that not—I'm not saying that everybody is going to be fine, but some people are going to have a terrible time, and it's important to be considerate of others.
		The opposition is to these top-down mandates that, even if they did work, I wouldn't support them because they're mandates, but add on that they're not even effective, and I think that's where so much of the frustration comes from.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		The answer, just really quickly, is personal responsibility.
		If you're vulnerable, you should take extra measures to protect yourself.
		This is why I've always been talking about terrain therapy, early treatment, something that, of course, you could be doing.
		This should be a big wake-up call to a lot of people saying, hey, I'm going to take my life, my health into my own hands, and I'm going to make sure that I'm the best, healthiest version of myself because There is something.
		And we never underplayed it.
		We always took it seriously.
		We were affected by it.
		And it's important to understand personal responsibility solves all of this.
		Your life is in your hands.
		The government shouldn't be controlling your life because when they do, they make it usually a lot worse.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's really, you know, all it is.
		I accept the risks.
		If I want to go bungee jumping, I'll go bungee jumping.
		Don't ban it.
		If I want to ride my bike, I'll ride my bike.
		If I want to go out in the middle of the woods where there's an open shooting range, that's my choice.
		Don't ban it for me.
		And I'll even add this because I love the response from these Twitter lefties who are like, should we ban seatbelts?
		And I'm like, yo, if you want to wear a seatbelt, wear a seatbelt.
		If I don't want to wear a seatbelt, don't force me to do it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		I prefer to wear a seatbelt. New Hampshire, no seatbelt laws. Are you serious? Yep, absolutely.
		No helmet laws either. Live free or die. It's your choice as an individual. The first thing
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		the free-staters do, they're like all in favor of banning seatbelt laws. Absolutely. I bang the
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		gavel. It's like there's... Hallelujah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Thank goodness that we live, we have a place in America where we have still some semblance of personal responsibility in your life, your life being in your own hands.
		The funniest thing I saw in New Hampshire though was a man, huge muscular guy, no helmet, riding a big Harley, but with a big mask on.
		Just a little ironic.
		But I understand there's bugs too, but whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but hey, do your thing, man.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's his choice.
		Exactly.
		What he wants to do, it's his personal responsibility, and I'm not even going to judge him.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Until he gets thrown off his bike and breaks his skull, and then we have to have 15 EMS workers come out and waste hospital space to heal this dude that could have worn a helmet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's too bad.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Don't strain my system because you're not going to take care of yourself.
unidentified		Your system?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm part of this system.
		We all are.
		Don't strain it because you don't want to take care of yourself.
		That bothers me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I warned you, Kerry, that he was an authoritarian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Some things... I forgot, now I'm free.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Live free, but I mean, if you want to live free or die and really take that consequence, then that's a different story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		I think it's fair to point out, Ian makes a good point.
		that there are irresponsible people who don't take care of themselves, they don't wear helmets,
		they don't eat right, they get sick, and then they do clutter up the plumbing systems, the
		medical systems. There are people who play with fire and then jam up our fire department and then
		accidents they'll take care of. I just don't think the answer is forcing people to do things in a
		sort of nanny state kind of way.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Because there's no limit to it.
		I mean, are you going to start policing obese people from eating cheeseburgers because they weigh down the system and hurt the medical institutions?
		Obviously that's an incredulous kind of move that the big state control psychopaths want to have over your existence.
		If someone wants to win a Darwin Award, this might not sound like the nicest of things, let them win the Darwin Award!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What is that on you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not even about the Darwin Award.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's about skydiving.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Riding a motorcycle, even with a helmet, is very dangerous.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Should we just say, you know what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Motorcycles are bad.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But the thing about seatbelts is you don't know what a car accident's like until you get into one.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And if you get into one, you better have your seatbelt on.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
		Driving cars is extremely dangerous.
		More people die from that than a lot of other causes of death in the United States.
		Are we going to ban driving?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't ban heroin from kindergarten classes because we don't want kids to accidentally get hooked on it.
unidentified		We don't want someone to accidentally... We don't let kids drive.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, we do.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When they're 16, they're still considered kids, technically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They're gonna be driving trucks soon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where's the line?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know what?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Until they automate them all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian, with respect, this is a good point, because people need to understand our lines for what we tolerate are... they change from person to person.
		Like, what should the drinking age be?
		Some people think it should be 18.
		I've actually seen a lot of... there's an advocacy group saying it should be 18, because they're adults.
		And that by making this three year gap from 8 to 21, you actually increase the risk of someone who lives on their own getting alcohol poisoning and not seeking treatment.
		But everybody's got a different idea of where that appropriate line is.
		So that's why I always lean more towards get the government out of it.
		to a certain degree unless typically when kids are involved to a certain age like don't deal
		drugs to kids but if you're an adult i think you should be able to imbibe or partake as you see fit
		the problem is when you decide ian this guy should have to wear a helmet because he's going to clog up
		the system if he gets injured where do we draw the line should we just be like don't let him
		ride the motorcycle dude don't let him hit the cheeseburger yeah
		Look, look, look.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't like commercials for sugar for kids.
		That bothers me.
		Like tobacco industry used to sell tobacco to kids.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But let's address the motorcycle thing, right?
		If you think someone should have to wear a helmet when they're on their motorcycle, why not just ban motorcycles?
		Then you get no accidents.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not trying to prevent the accidents.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to prevent the clog to the system.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And people with helmets on will still break their legs and arms and could still get knocked out and get road rash and will still be in the hospitals.
		So, my thing is, hey, I'll tell you what's easier, Ian.
		Let's get real dark with it.
		At least if the guy's not wearing a helmet, he won't go to the hospital.
		He'll go to the morgue.
unidentified		Right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, that doesn't always work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But my point is, if your concern is clogging up the hospitals, you go in a dark place.
		The solution to the problem you present isn't what you think it is.
		Forcing someone to wear a helmet actually would increase the likelihood they'll go to the hospital.
		If you want to clear up the system, this is what happens.
		People don't understand with AI.
		They'll say something like, we want to create an algorithm that creates a system where people won't clog the hospitals.
		And they'll just be like, okay, no seatbelts, no helmets.
		Everyone dies.
		Hospitals are open.
		No, we don't want that either.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm not, I'm not looking for the world peace where everyone gets incinerated.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we just, we just have to accept that people are going to make choices about their lives, the way they want to live happy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And as long as you're not hurting others or stealing their stuff, What's the history of seatbelts?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It used to be there were no seatbelt laws.
unidentified		Wasn't Ralph Nader a big crusader?
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Were they adding seatbelt laws?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		There was a company who created the three-point seatbelt and then gave it away for free.
		And then, I don't know if this is true so you guys can fact check me, but I was told that there were insurance companies lobbying for seatbelt laws because it won't change the amount of accidents, but it'll reduce the amount they have to pay out if people are wearing seatbelts.
		So they were very big advocates for forcing it.
		But let's go to Super Chats, because we're a little bit late.
		If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends.
		We're gonna have a members-only podcast up at Timcast IRL around 11 or so p.m.
		It's gonna be fascinating.
		It's uncensored.
		We cuss like sailors.
unidentified		Yes!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'll love it.
		But let's read some Super Chats.
		Alright, let's see what we got.
		Lucas Parada says, Hey Timcast fam, I would just like to say that Ian has grown on me over the past year.
		He definitely has a good heart even though Graphene has taken part of it over.
		I think the turning point for me was when Ian used a football analogy.
		Undone.
unidentified		Yeah, like sports too, what's up?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hey, do you know what Graphene is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I was just about to search it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We'll talk about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, it was Michael Malice who said, you know, I first didn't understand what Ian brought to the show, but now I get it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I love you, Michael.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, well, I'll say this to you, Ian, too.
		You know, the semantic arguments, that's just, I feel like... We kind of did away with those.
		Yeah, people don't like that.
		But the comment you brought up about authoritarianism sparks a good conversation.
		You brought up a good comment about Ebola.
		We were talking before, you know, Ian was like, if we're opposed to the lockdowns, what if it was an Ebola?
		We just let, you know, it spread?
		And I'm like, it's an interesting point.
		To what degree of severity of pandemic would we all kind of be like, okay, shut it down?
		With COVID, we're not that scared of it.
		Democrats are, so their tolerance has been met.
		For me, if it was airborne Ebola, I'd still err on the side of let people take the risks they want and I'll go hide in the woods to stay away from airborne Ebola.
unidentified		I think the point is more people wouldn't want to chance it.
unidentified		I think there would be a lot more voluntary compliance and measures taken because the risk would be so blatant and obvious.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think a lesson I've learned from this is you really don't have to force people to take precautions during a pandemic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If it's real, they will do it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.
		Roberto Lara says, So we did mention that.
		I'm not a trucker, so I don't know if that's a big deal or not.
		Is that scary?
		Is that good?
		Maybe truckers are like, that's awesome, great, get more truckers.
		bill that Congress passed and on mentality look up Billy Milligan.
		So we did mention that I'm not a trucker so I don't know if that's a big deal or not. Is that scary?
		Is that good? Yeah, maybe truckers. Oh, that's awesome.
		Great get more truckers. I don't know Not sure.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I know there's a shortage.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What's the problem exactly?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That they're going to allow teenagers to drive trucks because they need more drivers.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think that's what bothers me is that they're about to step into automated industry.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So that entire industry is those people, 16-year-olds that are getting jobs now, probably in a decade aren't going to have those jobs anymore.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Maybe this is time to phase out actual human truckers.
		And I was going to say, one of the things that we were just looking at was the case of a 23-year-old driver who came down a hill too fast and ended up killing a few people.
		He got a 150-year sentence.
		I guess they lightened it a little bit, but that's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But there were a lot of people who commented saying that they were truckers, and they agreed with the sentencing because he's responsible for that rig, and if he doesn't know how to use it, he shouldn't be driving it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He could have taken off ramps, from what I heard, and he chose not to take two off ramps.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the issue, I guess, that people were bringing up is...
		If you take a job driving a truck and you get into an accident, we understand it's an accident, but if you choose to arm yourself with a gun, as is your right, and then you accidentally discharge it hitting people, you are still going to go to prison.
		And I'm like, that's actually a fair point.
		Like this guy chose to get behind the wheel of a rig that he didn't know how to handle and then killed people.
		If you don't know how to handle your weapon and you go out, hey, you're responsible for what comes out of that, out of that gun.
		You're responsible for what you hit when you're in a massive truck like that.
		So it's an interesting point because initially I was like, this makes no sense.
		It was an accident.
		And then people were like, yeah, but you got to understand the responsibility that comes with having such weight behind you.
		And he was not prepared for that responsibility.
		I don't know if life made sense, but I certainly understand the point people were making.
		All right.
		Chris Stark says dirty jobs and how it's made should be required learning in schools so that upcoming generations and kids and teens get a real grasp on how things work.
		Also bring back civics and acts social studies.
		Mike Rowe didn't voice how it's made, did he?
		Or did he?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think that's his new show, no?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, that is his new show.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's his show where he goes around and- How it's made?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		How it's made is like, today on How It's Made, bubble gum.
		And then it shows the machine- Oh, yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		No, he didn't voice that one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He didn't, yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He voiced one called, like, That's How It Works or something.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He has a show that's similar to that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I gotta tell you, man, one of the greatest shows ever made is How It's Made.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I wonder, have they ever done How It's Made, How It's Made?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		No, no, for real, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think they have.
		Like, they show how they do the productions, how they choose the stories.
		I think they've literally done that.
		Yo, it is amazing watching.
		I watched one how they made marbles.
		I watched one how they made candy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Bourbon.
		Honey.
		Rice.
		I was just looking at these.
		Beautiful.
		Two and a half million views.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not only is it educational, it's hypnotizing.
		You, like, you learn so much about the mechanization process of production.
		Seriously, have your kids watch that stuff.
		So I agree with this comment.
		And dirty jobs, too, man.
		When people are, like, when Mike Rowe mentioned he goes into a sewer, and I'm like, yes.
		I think it's a really, really important lesson for everybody in the kind of jobs that we don't see.
		That people probably don't want to see.
		Like, sewer maintenance.
		And having to go into a sewer.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would disagree with the commentator and I would just be like don't don't rely on the state to educate your children And don't expect them to do a good job at it I think I think they're being figurative like people should have their kids watch these shows.
unidentified		Oh, well about the civics education though because Because I was thinking about that.
		Yeah, which is, as far as I know, civics education hasn't gone away.
		I know that, I mean, I'm not a child, but when I was in school we learned all about how the government works and people have been learning about this for generations and yet we ended up here.
		So I'm not sure that teaching people how the government functions and how to participate is necessarily a guard against tyranny or authoritarianism or all the ways things have gone sideways.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, Madison Lynn says, Luke, beautiful eyed POC Luke, have that shirt as a hoodie.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Damn right, we already do have it as a hoodie on thebestpoliticalshirts.com and there's multiple options, women's shirts, regular shirts, you name it, we got it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're going to mention that people think they're a leftist because they have, quote, people are gangs, until they explain that they're anti-state.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Police are gangs, not people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, police are gangs.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Politicians are criminals.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke gave me a magnesium before the show, and it's not sitting well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It does give you, it does, I told you what it does.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It does good with zinc.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not making me tired, it's making me feel like I'm gonna barf.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe it's too much.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, you took like one.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you're dehydrated.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I did drink a ton of water and I feel a lot better, but I think it might have more to do with the fact that I may already have proper magnesium and that was too much.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Most people don't, actually.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's the atom at the center of every chlorophyll molecule.
		It's incredible.
		Magnesium is so powerful.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And it's so important for your health.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's all the green vegetables?
		It's magnesium.
		It's all about that mag.
		Magnetic.
		M-A-G.
unidentified		Yo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kevin Collins says, why has no one created billboards to expose the woke?
		Loud in schools, Vaxinfo, etc.
		Maybe offer money to whistleblowers with credible evidence of corruption in government schools, corps, military, etc.
		Any other ideas?
		I don't know if you can offer money for it outright like that.
		But Project Veritas are the foremost experts on whistleblowing and stuff.
		So what is their email?
		Veritas Tips?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Tips at Veritas, I think.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Veritas, tips at ProtonMail.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do they still have that one?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It sounded like James when I said that too.
		So I've had people message me like, hey, I want to speak up.
		I want to challenge this stuff.
		And I'm just like, as much as I'd love to, we are not at that point where we're equipped to deal with anything like that.
		Project Veritas is.
		So you guys, if you notice any wrongdoing, criminal activity or malfeasance, talk to the Veritas guys and they will work with you.
		Not every story makes it.
		It's just the way it is.
		But Veritas truly is great.
		We had James on the show yesterday.
		It was awesome.
		Alright, Jason says, Tim, there's a new ammo round coming out, 8.6 Blackout, for Remington 700 and AR-10 type rifles.
		Research a company called Q who designed 300 Blackout.
		Have you heard of them?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Q is a, yeah, it's one of the leading firearms companies in the United States, and it's not The Conspiracy Theory, it's a gun manufacturer that does really well-made firearms.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I own one of their Sugar Weasels, which is a very fun pistol that is really cool to shoot in 300 blackout.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's let's grab some more instructor uber says hey Tim you're hiring security I have seen it.
		I have seven years of armed experience including leadership and canine handler.
		Where can I apply?
		so we we have security we're getting even more security and Yeah, a lot of people based on like the vlog and other things that happen a bit like why don't you have security?
		It's like we do but what you need to understand is that I guess we're getting to the point where I didn't think we needed, like, armed guards standing checkpoint in our acre-long driveway and things like that.
		You know what I mean?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I learned that with mines.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Just really quickly, why do you think I was trying to set up a fight club inside of the Beanie Castle?
		I don't want security.
		No security.
		We teach everyone jiu-jitsu.
		We're gonna have a jiu-jitsu class inside of the house this Thursday.
		It's all gonna be on the vlog.
		I've been doing kickboxing classes.
		Self-defense is definitely where it's at.
		And being facetious, obviously, we should get security.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		When we were building Mines, we learned pretty quick that you think you're building one thing, but then immediately we needed all these bug testers and beta testers.
		So like, we weren't building a beta test company, but we found out after we started that that's what we needed was a bug.
		And so similar with security, when you're doing like a media company, it turns out it's a huge part of the organization.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of crazy people out there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll just say, you know, briefly, we had someone sneak in the other day.
unidentified		They waited.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My understanding is they waited until our guests were arriving and then tried coming at the same time and then tried claiming they were invited in, which is a complete lie.
		We have surveillance footage of it.
		In order to get here, you have to drive.
		I mean, how long is the easement?
unidentified		200, 300 feet?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's an understatement.
		It's like 1,500 feet.
		It's an acre long.
		I don't know how that makes sense, because acre is like, you know, a square distance.
		But it's a very, very long distance.
		And there's big signs, there's multiple signs saying no admittance, no entry without permission, no trespassing, you'll be prosecuted.
		And this person comes in here.
		And the problem is, we're armed.
		We were just swatted.
		And this person got lucky, very, very lucky.
		And we've got We've got dogs.
		We've got big ones.
		We do have security.
		We are armed.
		And so I'm like, this shouldn't have happened, but we didn't, you know, this person basically waited until our guests had all arrived when we had a group coming in and then walks in when everyone was, you know, occupied.
		And it shouldn't have happened, but it did.
		We had a breach.
		And so now we have increased security 10x, and the police are involved, and this guy is going to get the full brunt of whatever there is, because when we get swatted, when we get death threats, when we have people here who are actively getting death threats, and then you think you're gonna come on here to try and get yourself promoted and lie about what happened, we can't tolerate that.
		No, not at all.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not personal at all.
		You gotta be strong.
		You gotta be consistent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we can't allow that, man.
		I mean, look, we've talked about wanting to have people be able to come here.
		We talked about how we wanted to do semi-private events where members would be allowed to come.
		We can't legally do it.
		So when someone enters the property, they're causing extreme harm to everyone across the board and putting us at serious risk.
		All right, let's read some more.
		We got Jeremiah Jensen.
		He says, Tim, I am a truck driver from West Virginia.
		In a segment today, you were talking about truck drivers not going to big cities.
		Vaccines only play one part.
		Drivers didn't want to go there before this.
		Mandates was just the last straw.
		I noticed that you were mentioning, Lydia, that in, like, Frederick, the stores were empty.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so one of the things I saw was that there were a bunch of empty shelves.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I went into, I actually tweeted about it, and then that day I went into Walmart and I saw just there was no meat, there was no chicken, there's almost no produce.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Frederick.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they have a mask mandate in Frederick County.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When I went to West Virginia, Food Lion and Weiss, nothing.
		No problems.
		I mean, when I mean nothing, I say there were no problems.
		Food was everywhere.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It was great.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, we also went to a Walmart in West Virginia, just down the road from us and similar problem.
		So I don't know, maybe it's a Walmart problem.
		I don't know.
		It could be.
		Also, my other grocery store in Frederick, there was like bare shelves and people are posting it.
		East Coast seems to be heavily affected by these shortages.
		Middle of the country, not so much.
		So it might be just a local thing.
		Not sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Daniel F says Trudeau is no mastermind.
		He's a trust fund kid with a famous last name.
		He is, however, an authoritarian wannabe with a strong admiration for the CCP.
		Any room for some Canadian refugees?
		Good luck!
		Oh, poor Canada.
		Now they're doing this vaccinated, Canada's gonna get cut off.
		So much of their goods get imported from the U.S.
		Well, you can thank Trudeau and everyone who voted for him.
		David Holguin says, Tim, use The Walking Dead Season 1, Episode 2, Guts as a reference for the skit.
		If you're looking for some help, talent, and putting something together, search Crit Short Film and tell me what you think.
		All the best.
unidentified		Congrats, Lids and Andy.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		What do we got?
		Let's get some more.
		Stuart Sockwell says, in 2015 when I became a truck driver, I kept hearing there's a shortage of truck drivers.
		But one day someone said to me, it's harder to demand a raise if you're replaceable.
		Maybe there's some truth to that.
		Oh, I like this one.
		Carl Andrews says, proof of gun.
		Shut up and take my money.
		Yes.
		I tweeted that in response to Thomas Massey.
		We should have gun mandates.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I love that idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If I, if, man, if I was in office, Ron DeSantis should do this.
		Like, or not Ron DeSantis, but any, any Republican in a Democrat area should just be like, oh, you're doing vax mandates?
		Gun mandate!
		I hereby decree I'm the mayor of the town.
		Everyone must have a gun and proof of gun to enter the, and then see how people react to it.
		And they're going to be like, how dare you mandate?
		It keeps people safe!
		We have data proving that guns are more likely to be used protecting people than to harm people, than to harm the innocent.
		It keeps people safe.
		Ian, Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's a pandemic of crime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If it saves one life.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That's right.
		There's a pandemic of crime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a pandemic of crime.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We saw that article.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I will not stop until it is eradicated.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If it saves one life.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Zero murder.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then why not?
unidentified		Why not?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone mentioned, too.
		I think we'll find the super chat.
		Here we go.
		Here we go.
		Zypho says, Tim, did you know that the Militia Act of 1792 required gun ownership and to be armed when traveling away from home for all adult males?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Didn't know that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gotta look that up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why would you not be armed?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know?
		Look, man, people drive big cars all day, every day, and I'm not worried about them hitting me.
		Like, obviously, I look both ways when I cross the street, but I don't think the guy in the truck is gonna just charge at me.
		I see people out in West Virginia armed all the time.
		I'm not worried about them shooting me.
		I don't go like, oh no, oh, they got a weapon.
		It's like, people got cars.
		If they want to use them, they can use them in bad ways.
		People got guns, they can use them in bad ways.
		Alright, Kyle Beckman says, did I just hear that Tim now opposes universal healthcare?
		If not, you should ask parents in Canada, UK, how long it takes to get kids diagnosed with autism and start therapy.
		I'll put it this way.
		My criticism was California doubling their tax rate to pay for it, which would just drive rich people away from the state, and they would have no funds to pay for it.
		I think, realistically, we as a nation will struggle to implement something on a mass scale.
		I think idealistically, wouldn't it be great if we could have a functioning medical system universally for everybody?
		The problem is, as Ian mentioned, you can't because people don't take care of themselves.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Let food be thy medicine.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine, instructed everyone to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I mean is... Food.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you want universal health care, you also need to mandate people do early morning calisthenics.
unidentified		Yeah, diet!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the medical industry and the food industry are so intertwined now after, what was it, the 1910, they signed the, some act got signed in 1910 where the medical industry basically, they started to do away with homeopathic medicine.
		And the Flexner Report, it was the name of the report that got issued.
		But it's the food.
		If you go to feed someone sugar and then give them Prozac to counteract the negative things, like, that's the same industry, basically, essentially.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, this is why it won't work.
		Because, basically, if you try and do universal healthcare, a leak will spring up in your boat, and you'll stick your finger in, and another leak will pop, and you'll keep trying to plug all the holes, which you can't do.
		So, ultimately, you just need decentralization.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think you can allow actual freedom.
		I think that centralized healthcare is going to require a great deal of authoritarianism that we don't want.
		Especially in a country of 330 million people, it's not going to work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or serious cultural changes.
unidentified		And the thing too is the healthcare system is already so corrupted.
		These interests have already overtaken Congress.
		Like, who are you expecting to do this in a way that isn't built on a bedrock of cronyism and corruption, that isn't really looking out for people's best interests?
		So the idea is really nice, but pragmatically and realistically, I don't think everybody in America is going to reelect progressive-only politicians who are going to scrap the entire system and then build a brand new one, which would already have its own issues because of the centralization.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we got Murph.
		He says, Tim, when are you going to have Awaken with JP on the show?
		As soon as JP wants to come on the show.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He's going to be in DC for the rally happening soon.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So maybe we can get in contact with him then.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		JP, if you hear this message, come on the show.
		We're here in the DC.
		We're not far from DC.
		We're like an hour away.
		That'd be awesome.
		JP's awesome.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I need guests.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That'd be cool.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		All right.
		Jamie says, I approve of your proof of pew-pew.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		I like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You walk up to a diner, and they're like, excuse me, do you have your guns?
		Yes, I have it right here.
		Ah, excellent.
		And your wife?
		Honey, do you have your Glock on you?
		I do.
		And your children?
		I see you have a young boy.
		Yes, he's got his AR with him.
		Oh, wonderful.
		And your young seven-year-old daughter?
		She does have, like, what would she have?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't have one, though.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have one here that she can use.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That would be good.
		And then like, all they have are really big ones.
		They've got, you know, a Barrett.
		Well, she can't carry that.
		It's okay.
		What's that meme where it's like, children are not, children and guns do not mix.
		They're too heavy.
		And then it was like, children are better suited for crew served weapons.
		It builds teamwork and the mobile nature of the weapons allows them to better handle them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It'll be at the booth with the crew-served machine gun that's attached to the table.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When they walk in, they're like, oh, I noticed your young daughter doesn't have a weapon.
		Don't worry.
		And then they walk over and there's like a rack of things.
		Here you go.
		You can have this one.
		I couldn't think of any of the good, really small weapons I had.
		And I also couldn't decide if the young girl should even get a smaller weapon and just get a standard one.
		Mr. Toad says, Tim, you quoted often the movie Network, but have you seen it?
		How accurate do you think it is?
		I have a really, really long time ago.
		When I was like really young, so I don't I don't remember I have to rewatch it for sure.
		But you guys remember that movie?
		I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore.
		Yeah, you gotta open the windows or whatever.
		Like scream at me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They used to tell me I was that guy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I never saw it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		TankArt says, if you read the history of the Spanish flu of 1918, it was about two years
		of it and it was covered up by the media by the order of the Wilton administration because
		of World War I.
		Last wave was weak.
		Antibodies lasted 90 years.
		Wow, crazy.
		Yeah, I read a decent, a bit about it, and like the trenches were making it worse.
		People were getting sick, and they were filthy, and injured, and oof, geez.
		Just really, really bad.
		All right, we'll just grab, we'll grab a couple more.
		Let's see what we can get in here.
		Free men die free says healthcare was number one in the U.S.
		prior to Medicare, Medicaid, etc.
		Subsidies and government intervention is always the problem.
		Doctors used to come to your home.
		That's true.
		Remember those stories?
		Doctor would show up.
		To be honest, though, back then medical treatment was something different.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Biting a bullet.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They didn't have anesthetic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They would have you bite a bullet?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, during Civil War.
unidentified		Yeah, you could die by choking instead of by, you know, gangbanging.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, it's kind of crazy that they had to amputate your leg instead of just splashing some soap on it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We are really lucky.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Antiseptics, man, no joke.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why, you know, we got a bunch of... I think, did you order the isopropyl alcohol, Ian?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Ian, and vinegar.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And iodine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And iodine.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Keep it alive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Keep it healthy.
		Dude, soap is no joke.
		That's something I've learned from the pandemic, too, is I wash my hands twice as much as I used to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Soap is no joke.
unidentified		Good.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Soap is no joke, and it's not like...
		Just, God-given that you have it in your house.
		It's not a co- It basically cured the Black Plague.
		They didn't have soap, so they had a plague instead, but now you have soap, so use it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we got one more here.
		Let's read this.
		The Belschnickel says, I got a fever, and the only prescription is more Brent Mason Signature Telecaster.
		Much love and respect from AZ.
		Carrie Lake for Governor.
		That is right.
		That is right.
		Behind me, is the brent mason signature telecaster it's so good it's so amazing uh i'm just a bit it's an excellent guitar and more importantly if you watch brent mason actually play the guitar you're just like i he's like a robot it's just some of the best guitar playing i've ever seen and uh just an aside you know it's just hanging up there because it's a really great little instrument and i'm stoked to have to have one
		But, uh, my friends, you should go to TimCast.com and become a member right now because we have a members-only segment coming up for you.
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		Carrie, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified		You can find me on Twitter, Carrie underscore Wedler.
		I'm on YouTube.
		I don't know if my channel is compromised as far as reach, but I would love it if you went to my channel and checked it out.
		And you can find me on Instagram.
		I was recently banned from TikTok, but I'm hoping to be back.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got banned from TikTok too.
unidentified		I haven't decided yet.
unidentified		Yeah, I don't think it's that hard.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm thinking about starting a TikTok.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I might do it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm thinking about getting banned on TikTok myself.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Ian.
		I appreciate that.
		I made a pretty interesting video about the end of COVID on YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChanged.
		Check that out if you have some time.
		And I made a spicier one about Prince Andrew on LukeUncensored.com.
		Hope to see some of you guys there.
		Thanks so much for having me.
		And this was a great conversation.
		Great having my fellow anarcho memist here.
		Thanks for coming.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is your YouTube channel Kerry Wedler?
unidentified		It is, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hey everybody, wearechange.org.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Thank you Ian.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was a weird stance.
unidentified		Did you like that?
unidentified		That's great.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It was like a T-Rex thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Quit calling me out on TV.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm surprised you had pants on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You guys can follow me at iancrossland.net.
		I'm Ian Crossland.
		Thanks for coming.
		Kerry, great to see you.
unidentified		Yeah, thanks you guys for having me.
unidentified		I meant to say that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		And thank you guys all very much for tuning in.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We will see you guys in the after show and then tomorrow you guys may follow me on Twitter at sarahpatchlids.
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