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Timcast IRL - Biden Threatens US Deployment If Russia Invades Ukraine w/Steve Bannon
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tim pool
Man, it's getting crazy out there.
We got an estimated 70,000 to 90,000 Russian troops amassing just near the Ukrainian border.
Ukraine is responding.
The US and EU are worried that Russia will actually invade Ukraine.
And Joe Biden has apparently threatened Vladimir Putin.
Now, what we know definitively is that it's like sanctions.
Okay, we're going to cut you off from gas, maybe the international financial system.
But there's also a statement from Sullivan who said that, you know, we have deployments in Europe already and we're now looking at what more deployments we might actually have.
So he didn't want to say we're going to send troops because we already have troops there, but maybe more.
But now it's getting crazy because apparently there is a Republican who said we're not taking nukes off the table, boots on the ground.
Yikes.
Probably a really bad idea, but we're going to get into all that.
We've got images, we've got photos.
We have Donald Trump basically mocking him, mocking Biden, saying, Putin doesn't care what Biden's saying.
And then we got this crazy story.
Oliver Darcy saying the media is secretly meeting with the Biden administration to collude on how to cover the failing economy.
Hey, surprising, isn't it?
Chris Cuomo gets fired for his collusion with a Democrat, his brother, But this, of course, is okay.
I'm glad- Hey, look, props to Darcy for reporting this.
And then we got Elon Musk saying that people need to have more babies, which would be pretty interesting.
He's saying civilization is gonna collapse.
Joining us to talk about all this, and probably a bunch of other stuff, is Steve Bannon.
steve bannon
Thanks for having me, Tim.
Good to be back.
I love the new studio.
tim pool
Appreciate it, man.
steve bannon
I kind of, I didn't have my, you know, geospatially.
I didn't know where I was when I was watching the Tim Pool show.
tim pool
Because everything's different now.
steve bannon
It's all different.
I didn't realize.
I said, where do you get the axe and everything?
But now I see it, the whole new studio.
unidentified
Axe.
steve bannon
Axe.
unidentified
That all make sense?
steve bannon
Sword.
tim pool
Sword.
Well, they call those guitars.
Axes.
And we are going to be, we have an antique Civil War rifle we just found at an antique
It's crazy.
It's a model 1861 Colt percussion rifled musket.
Never been fired.
Mint, bore, and I'm stoked.
It's so cool.
It's a Union weapon that was never commissioned.
steve bannon
Made from the Silicon Valley of the early part of the United States up in the Connecticut Valley, right?
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep, makin' weapons!
10,000 were ordered, but this one never got sent out, so it's almost, I mean, look, it's got, you know, 160 years of wear and tear.
It's actually, it's a Model 1861 made in 1862, so pretty cool stuff.
But Steve, thanks for hangin' out, and I guess, you know what?
How would you describe yourself?
You know, to someone who's not heard of you, there's a lot of people who've never actually listened to you that listen to us, so I'm curious how you'd describe yourself.
steve bannon
Populist, nationalist, traditionalist.
Pretty simple.
There you go.
tim pool
Simple enough.
steve bannon
Populist, nationalist, traditionalist.
I believe power should be back as close to the people as possible.
I'm an ardent economic nationalist.
I believe that every country in the world should look after its own self-interest.
And traditionalist.
Traditional values and the traditional family.
What Elon Musk is pumping for.
tim pool
That's why I thought that was interesting.
We'll talk about it.
steve bannon
Well, we'll talk about it also because I think the prior announcement was about putting chips in your brain.
I know.
That was the misdirection play.
Oh, by the way, we should have more robot babies.
The big announcement was he wants to put chips in everybody's brains by the fall of 2022.
Is that what he said?
Yeah.
No, it's coming in 2022.
Brain chips.
All right, we'll get into it.
Neuralink is going to have chips in the minds of humans, not the lambs and sheep.
unidentified
You've seen them in the pigs and all that stuff.
steve bannon
No, no, no, no.
It's coming to human beings by 2022.
That was his big announcement.
The misdirection play was, oh, yeah, we've got to populate the earth by having more babies.
luke rudkowski
Transhumanism, Tim.
I've been ranting and raving and screaming about it for so long, and I definitely think the shirt I'm wearing today is very appropriate for our guest.
It says specifically, Jailing People for Victimless Crimes, the unofficial slogan of the Biden-Harris presidential campaign.
tim pool
Kamala looks really ripped in that photo.
unidentified
She is.
luke rudkowski
She is.
She's a very strong lady.
steve bannon
I knew it was the anarchists would get me in trouble.
unidentified
They're gonna come and get my ankle bracelet, right?
luke rudkowski
Hey, you know, I think you're right.
I don't think you're wrong on that.
And if you want to support me and what I do, you could by getting the t-shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
I also just released a Fauci Emperor Palpatine going after puppies and monkeys.
That's also available.
I couldn't fit in the orphaned children.
I apologize to the people out there.
NIH experiments, orphaned children, look that up.
Crazy stuff's happening.
I'm excited for this conversation.
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
Ian Crossland over here.
Happy to be in the house.
What's up, everybody?
lydia smith
And I am also here pushing buttons with one of my favorite guests.
We love having Steve Bannon in the house.
Love hearing about what he's up to.
He's a fantastic commentator.
I genuinely think he's like the next Rush Limbaugh.
If you guys don't listen to War Room, you definitely should.
steve bannon
Transhumanism, by the way, is one of our biggest draws now.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Big part of the show.
steve bannon
We have a special editor that does nothing but it.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
steve bannon
Oh, yeah.
It's actually interesting when you look at the traffic.
It's one of the biggest things that drives traffic.
It's such a serious topic.
tim pool
Are people into it or scared of it?
unidentified
Both.
luke rudkowski
I mean, we're talking about smart dust.
We're talking about all this other, you know, 2030 new future technological advancements.
It's, it's, it's, I would say awe-stunning, but that's not a word.
It's, it's, it's crazy what's happening out there.
steve bannon
Globalization is the misdirection played to take you off the ball of the singularity.
That's the singularity.
That's the signal, not the noise.
tim pool
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I love this headline from Axios. It's just three words.
Biden threatens Putin.
unidentified
That's amazing. They say in a video journalism has come.
tim pool
Yeah. Well, hey, I mean, that's a good thing. It's better than some sensationalist 20 word title.
We'll keep it simple.
In a video call that lasted for just over two hours on Tuesday, Biden warned Russian President Putin that if Russia invades Ukraine, the U.S.
will impose unprecedented sanctions and provide additional weaponry to the Ukrainians, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said.
Now Axios doesn't want to go as far as to say U.S.
troop deployment because Sullivan kind of danced around it.
Saying he doesn't want to say we're bracing for, you know, rotation of boots on the ground because we already have rotational deployments in the Baltics.
But he is saying that is entirely a possibility.
The US getting involved in a ground war in Ukraine.
Sound like a bad idea?
steve bannon
Sounds like a terrible idea, particularly on the 80th anniversary of Pearl Harbor, right?
So I think this is, once again, this is the EU has been pressing this fight forever, right?
They're the ones that talked about the expansion of getting the Ukraine in.
This is where the more radical members of the EU and NATO talked about making Ukraine a member of NATO.
Right.
This has been pushing and pushing and pushing forever.
Biden's also doing this for political expediency.
He needs a wag the dog moment.
The Wall Street Journal's polling came out today.
Absolutely horrific.
Right.
He's I think it's 26 percent.
Right track.
Wrong track.
Twenty six.
Twenty six.
Twenty six percent.
Right track.
What?
Sixty two percent.
Sixty three percent.
Wrong track.
You've got among people who think he's doing great versus terrible.
It's thirty seven to six.
These are unprecedented unprecedentedly low numbers, not just on Kamala Harris, on
him. He has lost the country, okay, and now he has no political capital to
support this orgy of spending that's going to bury everybody up on Capitol Hill. So he
needs to change the conversation. Here's how he's going to change
the conversation. He's going to be a tough guy, right? He's going to push around
Putin. So he's going to try to use this purely for politics to try to get his ratings
up, to show he's a leader.
And this is a disaster.
And I got to tell you, it's not just it's not Biden.
It's the Uniparty.
The worst comment of the day was not from the pencil neck Jake Sullivan.
Right.
They should be focused on the Chinese Communist Party and what's happening in Taiwan and the South China Sea.
The worst comment was from the senator from Mississippi, Wicker.
Who said everything's on the table, including combat troops, not just the 200 advisors they have in there now, combat troops and tactical nuclear weapons, a nuclear strike.
tim pool
I mean, this guy's just he's just it's he's blowing hot air.
Come on.
steve bannon
He's not blowing.
I'm not.
Listen, he's a he's a very respected member.
He's a very respected member of tech.
I think he's on the Armed Services Committee.
This guy was on Neil Cavuto.
This is not this is not a lightweight.
Look, he's in the United States Senate.
When you have guys in the United States Senate say, combat troops and tactical nuclear weapons, a nuclear strike is not off the table.
luke rudkowski
And you brought up a very important point, because historically, when the popularity of leaders goes down, you know, history says that those leaders start wars and conflicts.
And if there was a conflict between This was Trump's plan.
United States and Russia China would of course take advantage of that situation
invade Taiwan immediately and geopolitically this is one of the worst
situations that the United States could make because we should be working with
Russia aligning with them and and and establishing a better relationship
because there is a lot of tension between Russia and China but with us
going full force against Russia it's absolutely idiotic.
steve bannon
This was Trump's plan?
This was the reverse Kissinger Nixon in 72. Look you have the you have the
Eurasian landmass okay.
And right now, American foreign policy since 1914 has been, we will never allow one power or a series of power to control Central Asia, the Eurasian landmass, the world island, right?
Because he who controls the world island can control the world.
And think about it, on December 7th of 1941, you had Germany, Italy, the Empire of Japan, they had just broken up, Russia was a part of that, they had just come apart with the attack.
Today, you have China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, with North Korea and Russia.
And we have forced those guys into the into the Chinese camp you talk about internal politics
Putin needs this to for his internal popularity and she needs this you have three leaders all for political reasons
Let's do it. Let's do the mullahs in too. Yeah, but Steve I would push back a little bit because during the Trump
luke rudkowski
presidency Trump sent lethal weapons to Ukraine something that even Obama was scared of doing and
And when you look at his foreign policy, it was pretty much on par, especially when it came to bombing Syria.
Because when we look at Syria, when we look at Yemen, these are the proxy wars that are happening between Russia and the United States.
And there might be another one in Ukraine.
Ukraine might be the new Syria.
steve bannon
I was the only guy on the National Security Council that fought to not launch the cruise missiles into Syria.
President Trump did not want to do that.
At the last minute, that was kind of an accommodation to the Uniparty.
luke rudkowski
But wasn't it Ivanka Trump who also said that she was crying, and then it was Trump's son who said it was her that convinced them to bomb Syria?
Wasn't that Trump's son's idea?
steve bannon
I don't want to say that, but people were putting in front of him, you know, about the children being the chemical attacks with gas, which we found out later was not true at all.
And his, remember, nobody's put more pressure on Putin than Trump had, okay?
But you're right, I think, and that was his, not acquiescing, but I think trying to work with
the national security apparatus, which- Media loves it.
But he, but, but, exactly. I mean, you know, morning Joe, these guys,
David Ignatius the next day, oh he's acting like a president.
luke rudkowski
Brian Williams, these missiles are amazing and beautiful and glorious.
They call them presidential and they love them.
They adore them.
steve bannon
This is what McMaster is about.
luke rudkowski
Now of course Biden's not any better.
Biden called Putin a killer recently and then a couple days later he literally bombed a U.S.
aid worker and killed seven children after that.
So, Biden, I think, is even worse, but I think there's a coherent foreign policy that has been steady against Russia throughout the last few presidencies.
steve bannon
Look, my youth, I was, you know, on a destroyer hunting Soviet submarines in the South China Sea.
So, nobody's more anti-Soviet, anti-communist, and the Russians are run by KGB guys.
They're bad guys.
That being said, they should be an ally.
Not an enemy.
We have a problem with China right now trying to consolidate the Eurasian landmass, and China is coming at us on Silicon Valley West, in Taiwan, South China Sea, and against our ally India in the northwest frontier.
And Biden's done such a bad job with our great ally India, the front of the Financial Times today is, wait for it, Putin and Modi Sitting there hugging, right?
Cutting a deal because this is what President Trump and Modi, nobody could have been closer.
That's our central ally against China, right with Japan.
And here you got, this thing is in total disarray.
Okay, the American people have voted about Biden right now.
First off, you can tell 81 million people didn't vote for him.
These polls mathematically couldn't be this low.
But these are unprecedented numbers.
In the 20s?
First of all, if you get in the 30s on the right track, wrong track, you're done.
tim pool
But the polls have swung.
I mean, it started... he started off... This collapse is too much.
Afghanistan was the start of the collapse, though.
steve bannon
Right, so around that point... I think that was a triggering mechanism.
I think it was bad up until COVID, people didn't know which way it was going.
tim pool
I do want to keep us focused on the foreign policy stuff, but I do want to say I think what happens is, like I said before, last time you were here, Trump was anti-elected.
The Atlantic story, stay alive Joe Biden.
I think people voted for Joe Biden because they didn't care and they were convinced anything was better than Trump and they were deceived.
And now they're realizing just how awful of a mistake they made in electing this guy.
And you see around Afghanistan when they're like, he gave up our air base.
But I don't want to rehash all that stuff.
steve bannon
I want to talk about- But you can see it in the Ukraine.
We're going to make the same mistakes.
First off, when you have people, remember, Wicker had been briefed.
OK.
He just didn't walk into that interview cold.
He had been briefed.
They've had discussions, and he said nothing should be off the table.
That means they're actively discussing combat troops, deployments to the Ukraine, and they want to keep on the table.
His words, not ours.
tim pool
Tactical a nuclear strike, but here's what I want to mention you talking about China
It was I think Pompeo who said that China has infiltrated the u.s. At every level every level
We've seen numerous what how many professors have been arrested for basically giving away our research to China
double-dipping China's paying them the u.s. Is paying them. They're giving
our research away. I think my pay was right and And so I'm concerned about, when I read the story about Michael Flynn, and I think, was he talking to Sally Yates?
Is that what happened?
And he said, I think Russia is not a big threat.
I think China is the bigger threat.
And then she panics.
She's like, oh no.
Sounds to me like they are colluding with China.
We know that Don Jr.
and Biden fly on Air Force Two to go to that private equity deal.
And now you're wondering- Not Don Jr.
I'm sorry, sorry.
steve bannon
Not Don Jr.
unidentified
Hunter Biden and his dad fly on the plane to China for a private show.
tim pool
Air Force Two!
Where's Hunter?
Where's Hunter?
Slip of the tongue.
Hunter Biden and his dad fly in the plane to China for a private deal.
steve bannon
Air Force Two.
Air Force Two.
In an official capacity.
tim pool
Don, don't get mad at me.
That was a mistake.
No, no, no.
steve bannon
But in all seriousness, first of all, $4 trillion, for your audience, understand something, your pension funds, your pension, $4 trillion of American capital have gone into China to finance it through Larry Fink.
This is the collusion Of Wall Street and global corporations.
You know, the NBA player just called them out the other day.
You had today, Apple announced a, what, a $400-$275 billion joint venture in China to help their technological prowess.
Have they invested $275 billion in the heartland of this country to increase the technological prowess of the United States and the workers in the United States?
No.
This is a company protected on American soil, and they're an active partner of the Chinese Communist Party.
luke rudkowski
Yep.
steve bannon
To make the system work, you have to have the slave labor of China.
The slave labor of China and the state-owned industries keep wages down throughout the
world.
That's why Wall Street and the party of Davos finance it.
That's how they make the profits.
luke rudkowski
And they want to make China the rest of the world.
and it was the Henry Kissinger David Rockefeller policy that in the 70s instituted all of this
and literally have set it up for the global world.
They want China to be the rest of the world social credit score surveillance state smart
cities smart grids all of that it's first being implemented in China and it's going
to be implemented in the United States.
steve bannon
And now we're going to get bogged down.
Remember let's put in perspective.
The Chinese Communist Party is the greatest enemy we've ever had.
The largest economy, the most sophisticated, right?
The one with the deepest culture, what, 5,000 years, 10,000 years?
Russia's economy is the size of New York State, okay?
It's the size of New York State, and it's imploding.
It's a demographic death spiral.
They don't make any technology we want.
They got great hackers, and you know what they got?
They got natural gas that the Germans and others want, right?
luke rudkowski
It's the GDP of Italy.
steve bannon
Exactly, exactly.
And yet, we're going to put, you have a U.S.
Senator, a Republican, and this is one thing I want to say, is a populist and a nationalist.
This is the type of neocon, this is the type of neoconism that has destroyed the Republican Party and helped to destroy this country.
You know, the nine trillion dollars we spent in Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years, and what, the 10,000 or 12,000 combat casualties, or the killed in actions, plus the 40 or 50,000 casualties, is because of that thinking.
Wicker's thinking today, oh, everything's on the table.
Boots on the ground, combat troops, and a nuclear strike.
tim pool
So I want to kind of wrap this all together.
We heard from Pompeo we've been infiltrated by China.
Joe Biden's approval ratings are in the trash.
He needs some kind of combat, so he points at Russia because he knows Russia's no real threat.
And he doesn't care about China, or at the very least he wants China to succeed.
steve bannon
In the media, remember in Washington DC, and remember the first impeachment trial, Russia is like, you know, I want to call the 1980s and get their foreign policy back.
Russia is considered a 50 times bigger enemy than the Chinese Communist Party.
And one of the reasons is the money the Chinese Communist Party has spread all over town, with the journalists and all that.
Russia is Zero.
Okay, is in a demographic despot and it's probably don't get me wrong.
They're bad guys run by the KGB with lots of nuclear weapons.
Okay, and and they've got troops.
But this situation in Ukraine is a European situation that they forced it on us.
And to do it on the on the commemoration of Pearl Harbor, right, I think is I think is extraordinary for him to do that.
tim pool
Let me pull up this story.
We'll get the exact quote here.
We have this from Mediaite.
GOP Senator floats U.S.
troops on the ground and nuclear strike against Russia.
Quote, I would not rule that out.
Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi told Neil Cavuto on Tuesday, the U.S.
should keep all options available when dealing with a potential Russian aggression against Ukraine.
That even includes a first use, a preemptive nuclear strike.
Senator, some of your Republican colleagues think that we should have troops in the region.
They never delineate exactly how many or that they'd be utilized in an outright confrontation with Russia over Ukraine, but their mere presence would be effective.
What do you think of that?
I'll tell you this, Neil said Wicker, I would not rule out military action.
I think we start making a mistake when we take options off the table.
So I would hope the president keeps that option on the table.
Cavuto presses.
What does military action mean?
He says.
Well, military action could mean that we stand off with our ships in the Black Sea, and we rain destruction on Russian military capability.
It could mean, it could mean that we participate, and I would not rule that out.
I would not rule out American troops on the ground.
He added, we don't rule out first-use nuclear action.
We don't think it will happen, but there's certain things in negotiations.
If you're going to be tough, you don't take off the table, and so I think the president should say that everything is on the table.
Do you know, Steve, the nuclear bombs we used in World War II, do you know how many times stronger a modern nuclear ICBM is?
1,250 times more powerful.
A multiple independently targeting re-entry vehicle, a MIRV, can drop 12 payloads from one ICBM.
It is laughable how insane that destruction would be from one.
How many does Russia have?
They got what, like 50,000?
steve bannon
This is the type of loose talk.
There's one thing about negotiate and leverage.
This is the type of when you actually put on the table a first strike over Ukraine.
This country is going to go to war over Eastern Ukraine.
This is what we're going to do in a killing field in World War II.
What, 15 million died when the Nazis went through and 12 million died on the way back, right?
And they were fighting for each side.
You couldn't tell who was fighting for whom?
No.
Think about it for a second.
If people had a bellyful of Iraq and Afghanistan in 20 years, and the great deplorable sons and daughters who fought there, and my daughter was, after West Point, went to Iraq, she deployed to Iraq, and I can tell you as a parent, you know how little power you have in life when you're praying every night that they just come home in one piece.
Think about it for a second.
Just after extracting ourselves from there, because the American people said no more, told the elites, and he did a terrible job of getting out, but we've got to get out of this thing, and President Trump wanted to do it from day one.
Yeah, that's absolutely insane.
could be having a conversation on a guy at a high level in the Senate that's
been briefed, a Republican, and you can put on the table combat troops and first
luke rudkowski
strike nuclear? What are we talking about? Yeah, that's absolutely insane and before
the show started when we were talking about Ukraine I compared it to Europe's
own kind of Afghanistan.
There's no winning or losing in Ukraine.
It's only death, especially when you look at the larger history of what happened there.
And today, the Ukrainian government had a military parade.
The Ukrainian defense minister said that this is going to lead to a bloody massacre.
He's warning Europe about 5 million refugees, and he's not wrong.
Russia is making a very strong stance here they're ... saying that they want a legal guarantee that Ukraine will ... never join NATO or become a base for weapons that can target ... Russia and they are saying very strongly that they will ... guarantee this themselves if they have to they don't want to ... there's a two-hour call with between Biden and Putin who's ... of course relationships are very tattered especially after ... Biden started attacking him publicly.
Far be it from me to go back to Hunter Biden.
Luckily, luckily we're still in the phase of diplomacy and we need more of that.
steve bannon
Far be it from me to go back to Hunter Biden, but it shouldn't be lost on people that Biden's,
you know, gig with Burisma, that whole nightmare, right, was the Russian thing.
These guys have been skimming money off the crooks in Ukraine for decades, okay?
The Clinton Foundation, the Clinton Global Initiative, they've been out there with their hand out with these guys.
You can't trust any of them.
A pox on all their houses, and the American people cannot be sucked in to what Brussels—Brussels have been forcing this.
Rahim Kassam's done some incredible reporting.
He was there back in 15, I think, when they had the color revolution, or 13 when they had the color revolution.
tim pool
I was there as well.
steve bannon
So my point is, you've been there.
Why are we in 2021, with all the problems we had, and we just extracted ourselves out of here, that now we're talking about an active deployment?
When we got our hands full, note to the Biden administration in that pencil neck Jay Sullivan, you got enough problems, show me you have a plan in the South China Sea and around Taiwan, because if we lose Taiwan, you're not going to get a Ford F-150 for five years.
tim pool
I want to pull this up from Wikipedia.
Roger Wicker is on the Senate Committee on Armed Services.
steve bannon
That's the biggest of the big.
That's the Armed Services Committee.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Because you have the Pascagoula Naval Base, you know, Stennett and all those guys.
tim pool
I think that's important to point out.
steve bannon
It's big time.
He's not some guy wandering around.
This guy's briefed.
He got the highest security clearances.
He got briefed on that.
He said they are actively running models.
I'm not saying they're going to do it, but I'm saying when you look at the spectrum of things, nothing should be off the table.
Guys in the Pentagon, in the national security apparatus, are running scenarios.
He said it.
Scenarios where you're going to have a first strike tactical nuke, and you're going to have American combat troops.
ian crossland
Are the Russians, do they want Ukraine to annex it or something?
I know he annexed Crimea.
luke rudkowski
Ukraine was very close to Russia with its sphere of influence.
steve bannon
They'd actually say Eastern Ukraine, they would actually argue it's part of Russia.
tim pool
Doesn't Ukraine just mean borderlands?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
That's what I was told when I was in Ukraine against borderlines.
That's why they called it the Ukraine.
Now the people of Ukraine say drop the the and just call it Ukraine because we're a country.
They changed the spelling of Kiev too.
luke rudkowski
And then there was a lot of US intervention and a lot of nonprofits that got involved in Ukraine and there was a revolution that was orchestrated and that of course turned Ukraine from being corrupted by Russia to being corrupted by the European and NATO side and now there's still corruption in Ukraine.
Because the revolution was all based on corruption.
That corruption has still continued to this day.
And some people would argue it was even made worse by this larger transition, quote, revolution, as some people are calling it.
steve bannon
Biden just kowtowed.
Look, he had the four hour meeting with Xi.
Beforehand, he said, you know, on the stage, he said, oh, we're going to we're going to defend Taiwan.
He had the four hour meeting.
Never mentioned the Wuhan.
You look at the two readouts.
You look at the Beijing readout.
You look at the U.S.
readout.
Not one mention in four hours of the Wuhan lab or the CCP virus.
Not one second to mention.
He kowtowed.
And he came out of there and said, oh, we're a firm believer in the one-China policy, that Taiwan's a region of China and eventually will be united.
We have the one-China policy.
He kowtowed.
He's gutless in China.
And now he's trying to show his commander-in-chief bravado against Russia in the Ukraine.
tim pool
This is another disaster.
It's that insecure bully on the playground who's like, I'm going to prove I'm tough by pecking on the little kid.
steve bannon
Where's Corn Pop when we need him?
tim pool
Where's Corn Pop?
It's funny.
I mean, look, Obama called Russia a regional power.
Remember that?
steve bannon
Well, they were a regional power.
That's what they are.
They aspire to be a world power like they used to be, but they're not.
Did I mention that the economy is the size of New York State and they're in a demographic death spiral?
tim pool
When Obama said this, it was seen as a slight.
steve bannon
Yes.
tim pool
You know, he was disparaging Putin because he knew Putin wanted to bring back the Soviet Union, that power, and he couldn't, and he was, you know, he was basically being like, look at us with the big dogs and here's to regional power.
steve bannon
Russia should be our ally in breaking up this Iran-Pakistan-Turkey run by the CCP, trying to consolidate the Eurasian landmass.
They should be an ally.
We have forced them Right?
And like I said, they're not good guys.
They're not good guys.
But the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
And they could have been the enemy of our enemy, which is the Chinese Communist Party.
tim pool
I don't like that, you know, the idea.
But I do think it's fair to say the enemy of my enemy can certainly work out an agreement with me in dealing with our mutual enemy.
steve bannon
How did we win World War II with Joseph Stalin?
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
If we hadn't had the Russians to take 25 chameleon combat casualties, we would have never defeated Hitler and Mussolini in the time it took to Today's the 80th commemoration of Pearl Harbor.
Franklin Roosevelt went, I think, tomorrow, technically, and declared war, the date that lives in infamy, declared war tomorrow, 80 years ago, on the Empire of Japan.
He did not declare war on Nazi Germany or the Italian fascists.
Hitler declared war on us the next day.
tim pool
Yeah.
steve bannon
Because he had a secret treaty and he thought we were weak.
He thought we were all talk and no action.
tim pool
Meanwhile, we were building nuclear weapons.
ian crossland
And sending lots of money and weapons to the British.
tim pool
But they were also working on nukes too, weren't they?
We just beat them to it.
I mean, they were developing rocketry.
steve bannon
That's right.
They had the heavy water in Norway.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
unidentified
That's why after the war, we took a lot of their scientists.
luke rudkowski
And the Russians did as well.
So the Russians took their scientists and experimenters.
ian crossland
They veered away from nuclear research into the VR to rocket research so that they could start hitting England.
And then because of that, they didn't get the nukes in time.
steve bannon
Bad decision.
tim pool
But it would have how because the blitzkrieg was that they zeppelins over over London. Was that what it was?
Yes So if they had if they had gravity bombs and if they
focused on gravity bomb research instead of cruise missiles They were wiped out and like you tell senator wicker
steve bannon
the last time the first and only time tactical nukes were were ever used is
In is it after the end of a three and a half year that one of the bloodiest wars ever had in the Pacific?
Right because the Japanese would not surrender the kids and yet he's he's sitting there with the Pentagon
Think about it. They are running scenarios tonight as we talk about putting combat inserting combat troops
I'm not gonna say they're doing it, but they're thinking about it. They're not taking it off the table
So they're thinking now in modeling combat troops to join NATO in this EU army
Right this EU military thing that the French are trying to put together
tim pool
I did a lot of research on modern nuclear weapons for this segment I was actually doing with Discovery.
Like, you know, Discovery Networks.
And I gotta say, like, it was shocking how little people who are, like millennials for instance, understand the rapid technological advancement in nuclear weapons capability.
The difference, and I will say this again, Between what we used in World War 2, that was a gravity bomb.
What that means is, it was a big bomb, we dropped that out of a plane.
Since then, we've created intercontinental ballistic missiles.
Multiple independently targeted re-entry vehicles carrying 12 warheads with 1,250 times the explosive power.
And you know what else I learned?
Did you know the radiation is on purpose?
Yes.
When a nuclear bomb goes off and it irradiates an area, that's intentional.
There's actually Russian nuclear bombs that do not irradiate areas.
And the U.S.
has similar ones, too.
When we were doing this research, we looked at the simulation of which kind of weapon used by which country, what would the level of devastation be, the initial incendiary wave, the shock wave, and the radioactive area.
And what they do is, I think the New York Times did this, it was over Manhattan.
What would happen to Manhattan?
And you would pick like, I'll use the Russian whatever missile, and it shows a wave of fire.
Just incendiary, wipes out from river to river in New York.
But there's also lower kiloton bombs that heavily irradiate the area.
When we talk about nukes, people need to understand this.
A nuclear strike on Russia could mean a lot of things.
It could mean destroying that area for hundreds of years.
luke rudkowski
And it's not just nuclear weapons that we have to worry about since of course Vladimir Putin even hinted at biological weapons, natural disaster weapons, and also artificial intelligence weapons as of course Vladimir Putin on the world stage a couple years ago came out and said Artificial intelligence is going to be a lot more powerful and lethal than nuclear weapons himself.
He also said that the country that leads the world in the development of artificial intelligence will be the ruler of the world.
So these are the types of situations that we're dealing with that is even far more complex than nuclear weapons, which on the base level, we're just beginning.
steve bannon
I'm no Eric Schmidt fan, but the paper they put up for the Defense Department a year ago, and it came out with this book with Kissinger recently, but the paper They came out with a year ago, said the exact same thing.
Said that there's an arms race now on AI, and AI will be the future.
There's already all types of weapons.
tim pool
You can see the future.
If you have a smart enough artificial intelligence that can calculate probabilities and variables in the proper way, looking at all the data from social media, they can predict things.
ian crossland
I would imagine it would be able to control drones, turn them around, drop bombs on their Shut off water?
Shut off electricity?
steve bannon
Ukraine is a scab you don't want to pick.
What about biological weapons?
Look, what came out of Wuhan, we know, was part of the PLA's, CCP's biological weapons
program.
Okay?
That was being researched at the time.
So you could have all types of biological weapons.
Ukraine is a scab you don't want to pick, okay?
Because there's going to be a lot of pus coming out of there.
tim pool
I want to point out an easy way for people to understand the power of artificial intelligence.
Take a look at what they're talking about with self-driving cars.
You know, I've got a Tesla.
I could sit down in it.
You pull the thing down twice, the car drives itself.
Now what they're talking about is, we're not going to need, like, you know, the road signs we have and all these things.
We don't need them.
You're not going to need any road signs because the cars talk to each other.
So when two cars are coming at each other, you don't need lanes.
The cars just know how far apart to be.
And once all cars are smart, look at what they can do and predict and how they can move around.
Now think about the weaponization capabilities of that.
They will be able to use social media data, communications technology to predict exactly where someone will be.
We've long joked, and I know this is meant to be silly, that Facebook knows when you poop.
They literally do.
There was an article talking about how Facebook can predict based on how long you've been sitting in one place, when the last time you got food was, that they know when you will go to the bathroom.
And they predict that.
Now imagine you've got a military general.
Oh, they can predict when you poop.
They can also predict where you'll be, when you'll be there.
They can effectively see the future.
And then they can just say, drop a hellfire missile.
And you know what?
We got an 87% chance of him actually being there.
That's going to be the future of AI warfare.
It will be terrifying.
luke rudkowski
Or just get people's DNA and then you know what their predisposition to get injured from or allergic to or affected by.
And this is one reason why the Chinese have been doing their damnedest to get as many COVID tests as they can back to China so they could harvest the DNA of all the Americans.
And there's also other crazy incidences.
tim pool
What's the source on that?
luke rudkowski
This is the FBI, according to the LA County Sheriff, who came out and said that he's not going to be participating with the COVID test because they're linked to a company that's connected to China that is data harvesting and taking people's DNA.
tim pool
We have the source.
luke rudkowski
I'm telling you, when people listen to this on iTunes or whatever, they're gonna be like, what?
like emperor paladin.
I just just just real quick.
tim pool
I want to be very careful because when we say things that you know, got to back up.
Yes, there's gonna be a lot of particularly in this area, right?
I'm telling you, when people listen to this on iTunes or whatever, they're going to be
like what NPR, February 24 2021.
China wants your data and may already have it.
This is talking about COVID, and they said that, okay, as COVID cases begin to rise, a Chinese company contacted several U.S.
states and offered to set up testing labs.
As a byproduct, the Chinese firm Beijing Genomics Institute would likely gain access to the DNA of those tested.
February 24, 2021 from all things considered NPR.
This is as mainstream corporate press as you get.
China is getting your DNA.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
And when they get your DNA, they could game the big pharma market, but also in the, in the kind of levels of dirty bombs or biological weapons they could leave the ...
world in setting off something on the world that ...
could only affect a specific amount of populations with a ...
specific gene sequencing so the level of warfare that ...
we're dealing with I would say we are already at war but ...
information fifth generational warfare is a lot ...
more powerful than bullets and Steve correct me from ...
rock I don't know if you know about this or not there was ...
also a lot of crazy instances reported with American ships ...
literally just being turned off and a lot of the people ...
steve bannon
You mean by cyberattacks?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
Not just cyberattacks, but also just in the water and then something flies over and then the military ships are just turned off and they can't turn on.
There's also some theories about aliens intervening and stopping nuclear warfare.
So there's a lot of different things out there.
I'm just interested in what you heard about it personally, yourself being inside of the White House.
tim pool
Real quick on that.
What's your clearance?
Something practical?
about those lights, those weird drones or whatever following the battleships, it's very
likely these are just, this is just technology that exists that can disable...
Yeah, EMP technology.
Or whatever, who knows what it is?
We don't need to get specific.
Technology exists that can disable our weapons.
steve bannon
What's your clearance?
unidentified
Steve, did you know that...
steve bannon
Something practical, something practical.
I think you're going to see polling that's going to come out.
I think people are going to get in to start polling.
And if Biden thinks his numbers are low now, wait till they start polling people on, do you support sending combat troops to the Ukraine?
People are going to go, where's the Ukraine?
Where is that again?
This is the uniparty.
This is the elites that rule us so far ahead of the American people.
Because you know what?
Hunter Biden and Hunter Biden's kids aren't going to be there.
Wicker's kids are not going to be there.
OK, this is once again the deplorables that are going to get deployed to a part of the world we've got no business in.
tim pool
I think it's fair to say mostly it will be the deplorables' children.
But I will say I want to stress there's going to be a lot of regular poor working class families who are going to suffer from this.
It's not just the deplorables.
steve bannon
The deplorables are poor working class families.
That's what I say.
ian crossland
We should start calling them the deployables.
tim pool
No, no, no, but look, look, look, the deplorables was used as a reference to like, you know,
the people who are supporting the populist movement, Trump specifically, but there's
going to be, you know, 100% politically uninitiated, regular Americans who working class Americans
steve bannon
and the poor and the sons and daughter of the poor, that's just going to get so they
don't care.
tim pool
Remember, you said they don't care.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
steve bannon
the elites don't care.
tim pool
What I mean is I would actually take it one step further and say the elites want and encourage
the poor to be shipped off to go fight.
Yes, 100%.
It's not that they don't care, it's that they revel in it.
steve bannon
That's why people have to stand up and say no more, no mass.
This is absurd.
ian crossland
There's an intentional, they want the Americans and the Russians to fight so that the Chinese
take like a currency control basically.
You think this is the Davos plan?
steve bannon
I think the Davos have this hatred.
Because remember, the Soviet Union and a lot of these cultural Marxists and people that are associated with these things still would love the Soviet Union to be around.
They hate Putin because he's a nationalist, right?
He's very traditional.
Okay, it's a lot of reasons they sell Salvini and a lot of people a pen and the people in Europe, you know like him because he's more or Find he they have an affinity to him because of his his nationalist tendencies It's one of the reasons the uniparty hates him.
And like I said, they're bad guys.
They're all from the KGB.
They're all oligarchs It's completely a corrupt system, right?
It's a country in a demographic death spiral.
Economy the size of New York doesn't make anything technologically that the world wants, but it's got some of the best hackers in the world.
And by the way, tons of nuclear weapons, very sophisticated on defense.
tim pool
Syrian hackers were actually based in Moscow.
ian crossland
When the Soviet Union split, did all the nukes go to Russia or most of them go to Russia?
Or did they go all over the place?
steve bannon
The only ones I think that didn't go to Russia were the ones in Kazakhstan.
I think the guy that the rule of Kazakhstan is the only guy that really, you know, turned them into plowshares.
Right?
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
The rest of the rest of them all went back to the to basically Russia.
They don't think anybody else got rid of him except the guy in Kazakhstan.
But look, the KGB guys are dangerous.
But the Uniparty hates Putin.
But that's one of the reasons Putin is budding up to the CCP.
Now they've got that unified thing.
And look, we're hitting three geopolitical crises at the same time.
You have the South China Sea in Taiwan.
Actually, you have the northwest frontier in India.
You've got this nuclear deal with the Iranians that is totally coming unwound.
And now you've got the Ukraine.
And all these, we're forcing this, we're forcing these, except for what we should be forcing, which is Taiwan in the South China Sea.
We gotta take a stand in Taiwan.
If we lose Taiwan, it's Silicon Valley West.
ian crossland
What's the Northwest frontier in India?
steve bannon
That's up in Afghanistan, that's where Pakistan... In the Himalayan mountains.
unidentified
Already the Indians and Chinese have been killing each other.
steve bannon
For about two years.
And by the way, I think they're kind of on, I think, what I hear is that the Indian army is a much higher alert.
up there than the letting on.
That's a friction point.
And think about it.
The CCP has come down and surrounded India down in Burma, right?
Or Myanmar with that revolt there.
So they're trying to isolate India.
India is the key that picks the lock in our Indo-Pacific strategy.
tim pool
What happens come, you know, Trump...
Do you think Trump's running again?
steve bannon
I know he's running again.
He's going to win again.
He's going to win the presidency for the third time.
Can I say that on YouTube?
He's going to win the presidency for the third time in 2024.
tim pool
Well, Trump is not the president.
Joe Biden is the president.
steve bannon
An illegitimate president.
tim pool
And if Donald Trump runs again, do you think India comes and works with him?
We know that Modi and Trump were good friends.
steve bannon
And they're both nationalists, and I think that, yes, Modi and Trump—the biggest event Trump's ever had in the country was Howdy Modi down, I think it was in Houston, 50,000 people.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Right?
I mean, Modi and Trump are very close.
And not just that, we're closely aligned, right?
He understands that Trump is the one person who's ever stood up to— Well, as soon as you bring up the election stuff we are completely obligated to address it.
We absolutely have to.
unidentified
I think I I I love your audience heads blown up.
tim pool
I well well as soon as you bring up the election stuff we are completely obligated to address
it.
OK we absolutely have.
OK we'll be deleted off YouTube in two seconds because of what because of that conversation.
And so what I'll say is I it's frustrating for me the level of optimism.
I don't want to tell people not to be optimistic, but in 2020, and we talked about this in the member segment last time you were here, when my skateboarder friends who work on minimum wage and can't tell you the name of not even one Supreme Court justice, let alone define what it is, are making TikTok videos of them voting by mail, and then I'm going back to my friends and all of them are fervently supporting Joe Biden today.
Some of these people have left the country.
Wow.
steve bannon
Hold on, hold on.
The crew, the skateboard crew?
tim pool
I know a couple people who have already left the country.
And it's not necessarily because they were like, oh no, Biden's so bad.
It's more like, wow, this is not a fun place to live.
I need to find something better.
And I don't think they correlate their actions in supporting Joe Biden in 2020 with what's happening now.
So I will just stress, in my experience, you know, we had I know.
steve bannon
You and I disagree with this.
I want to tell YouTube that Tim is adamant that Joe Biden won.
He's been adamant.
unidentified
And so it's a deeply held belief of yours.
tim pool
Look, I'm not going to pretend like I have all the answers to everything, but I will say that when we've had our conversations with people like Matt Brainerd several times, there's always been, here's what we think, not here's what we know.
And so my attitude is, what Republicans have done poorly is ground game.
And I'll tell you, I think one of the biggest impacts on the 2020 election was universal mail-in voting, not because of any kind of fraud.
I certainly think, like what Bill Barr said, yeah, there's fraud, you know, we don't think there's that, you know, is there enough?
And I've not had anybody come to me, you know, you've got wild wild and crazy accusations from people like Lindell
and Sidney Powell.
But when it comes to the more like, you know, we want to do a forensic audit
Nothing definitive has come out to the point where it's been laid out, but I will say this I want to keep you on
steve bannon
youtube Let's have that conversation in your in your in your silent
behind the wall chat or some other time because I can walk with you from Wisconsin to Georgia to
Maricopa to Maricopa County Not tonight, but I'll get Navarro and we'll walk you through the whole thing, chapter and verse.
tim pool
We had Navarro here, too, and definitely we should do a big conversation.
But I will say this.
One thing to consider, absolutely.
First, I have my anecdotal evidence being someone from Chicago and knowing tons of people who weren't just—they couldn't tell you what Supreme Court justice meant.
They're like, I don't know what that is.
And I'd be like, OK, well, like, seriously, they don't.
These are these are minimum wage workers.
They skateboard.
They don't understand or want to understand.
But I'm watching these people post videos.
One guy filmed himself in first person with his mail-in ballot to go.
And I'm like, these people were absolutely they were locked down for a year.
The only thing they ever heard was Orange Man bad over and over again.
And everything that you're suffering from is his fault.
Here's what I think happens.
When you have a dense urban population, like New York City, where you've got these big buildings with, you know, a thousand people living in it, you can get two Democrat activists to go door to door and say, see that mail-in ballot?
Sign it, fill it out, I'll wait.
But when you're talking about Republican voters in suburbs... Or I'll just take that mail-in ballot and I'll fill it out for you.
Perhaps.
But Republicans can't do that.
You're in a suburb, you're gonna go drive door to door.
The amount of houses that a Republican on ground game could get to to advocate for universal mail-in voting is substantially lower.
Substantially.
Orders of magnitude lower.
Dense urban populations where you don't need to walk more than 20 feet to knock on the next family's door, whereas in rural areas you might have to drive maybe like two or three blocks to get to the next house.
That is the level of ground game that I think needs to be focused on.
When they come out and they say the shadow campaign and here's what we did, I think it's very important you pay attention to that and keep that in mind moving into the next election.
And I agree with Mike Cernovich too.
When Trump came out and started talking about all this fraud, it was effectively voter suppression because they convinced people not to go out and vote.
So I look at this two ways.
We've had multiple people on talk about this.
I have not been convinced.
And then we've also seen the detriment to future elections because of the narrative that there's no point.
And I think that is something we need to avoid.
So that's why I'm kind of like, let's just tell people.
steve bannon
That's why you got to get to the bottom of 3 November.
You get to the bottom of 3 November.
You saw this in Virginia.
We had 95 percent.
See, this is the false narrative of the left.
Today, they're all on, you know, MSNBC all day.
They got the long faces because why?
We're getting people to take over school boards.
We're getting people to sign up to be precinct committeemen.
We're getting people to take over election boards and to take over the Klan and Kirkships, either volunteer or by voting.
But, you know, Democrat, all democracy, all small d Democrat.
And they can't stand it.
They have every branch of government, they have the media, they have high culture, low culture, middle culture, pop culture, universities, all of it, and they're freaked out because the American people now are stepping up and doing this.
In Virginia, we had 95% participation as election officials and by poll watchers, 95%.
In 2020, 33%.
The last gubernatorial race, 27%.
The Republicans are not going to allow ever again, not with new laws, we don't need new laws, but to get to the bottom of November 3rd and to make sure that never happens to us again.
Remember, last November, in November 2020, we had sweeping victories across the country.
Miami.
We had Long Island.
The villages of Connecticut.
You had the county prosecutor, the city prosecutor in Seattle.
tim pool
I think we should definitely do a much longer issue, because I don't want to detract from the news we're talking about.
But I do have to say, when you see the suburban housewives voting Republican in Virginia, what was it, like a 30-point swing?
They don't like Trump, man!
I think it's, you see this victory for the Republican in Virginia when it's not Trump, but it's a lot of the same policies.
steve bannon
But this is also the orange man bad thing, I think it's over.
The other thing is people, I think they can live with mean tweets now, okay?
unidentified
I agree.
steve bannon
Because that's what the 26% right track, wrong track with the two hand, the right track with the two handle in front of it, it's unheard of.
Nixon, when he, when Nixon walked across the lawn and took the helicopter out of there, I think it was 230, I think it was still 33 or 35% approval.
He wasn't in the 20s.
People are seeing recklessness, they're seeing incompetence, and most importantly, they're seeing that they don't respect us.
You've seen everything that happened on Capitol Hill.
Look at this thing with Ukraine.
All of a sudden, Ukraine comes out of nowhere, and in 24 hours, we're talking about maybe tactical nuclear weapons, right?
There's no respect for the American people to sit there and say, hey, here's our plan, here's our policies, here's what we're trying to accomplish.
tim pool
Let's do this.
I think we disagree on only some, but I want to have a conversation with you.
We'll do this in the member segment where you can walk us through... We're not sent to it tonight.
steve bannon
I want to get Navarro and take time on your member section.
We'll walk through, we'll bring the charts of the state.
I think it's something you guys see graphically.
tim pool
Well, I want to talk about another really big factor in what's going on today and what also went down in 2020, and that's media collusion, because we have this tweet from Oliver Darcy.
Hey man, shout out to Oliver Darcy for actually putting this out here.
He said, Senior White House and admin officials have been holding briefings with major newsrooms over the past week as they try to reshape economic coverage.
The White House, not happy with the news' media coverage of the supply chain and economy, has been working behind the scenes trying to reshape coverage in its favor.
Senior White House and admin officials, including NEC Deputy Directors David Kamen and Bharat Ramamurthy, along with Ports Envoy John Porcari, have been briefing major newsrooms over the past week, a source tells me.
The officials have been discussing with newsroom trends pertaining to job creation, economic growth, supply chains, and more, the basic argument that has been made.
The country's economy is in much better shape than it was last year.
I'm told the conversations have been productive, with anchors and reporters and producers getting to talk with officials.
To put it simply, they're having secret meetings behind your back because they want the press to change the narrative on the garbage economy and your suffering.
ian crossland
This is what they did with Afghanistan.
He wanted the Afghani president to tell everyone things were going just fine.
steve bannon
White Houses do background briefings to people to make sure they can understand the complexities of issues, right, and help the media be smart in when they address this.
That is not what this is.
This is the fact that they have now spent how many trillions of dollars on bills that they've passed to juice this economy?
And it's dead.
If you take the printing machine away from these clowns, this economy is going to implode.
And they know it.
OK?
That's why they're up there today with Mitch McConnell and the Republicans doing a gimmick to get relief on the debt ceiling.
OK?
Now, what Darcy's outing them on is that they're back now because they've got to have the media work with them to sell it to the American people.
Remember, they're talking on the talk shows all week.
The media is not, or Psaki said, the media is not doing, you're not doing a good job of selling our program.
Now, they need a media partner to sell it, okay?
Because every time you see anything with metrics, like the jobs report last week, which was, what, less than half of what the jobs report, and people got to remember, this was with a massive infusion of cash.
They say it's, oh, different than last year.
Yeah, you had another, what, $3 trillion.
Another, what, $2.5 or $3 trillion has been juiced into the system.
Okay?
And yes, it's a lot worse than last year.
Have you seen this before?
tim pool
The M1 money supply?
steve bannon
Oh yeah, yeah, right there.
tim pool
I love it, I love it.
Right around the start of the pandemic, they instituted change in reporting where they said your savings accounts are now basically checking accounts.
Which causes the money supply to explode by several hundred percent.
And they try and argue, they always say to me, Tim, you don't understand that huge spike is just a change in reporting because savings are now... And okay, well look at, since then, look at this spike.
We went from, what do we got here?
$16,583 and that's in what, billions I think it is?
Billions of dollars.
And now it's at $20,000,000,000,000 in the span of what do we got?
We got from June 2020 till October of 2021.
We have jumped $4,000,000,000,000 in the money supply.
That is massive.
steve bannon
This is fiat money.
This is the reason they have forced you, I tell people, Right now, and I'm not telling you to buy gold and silver or platinum, and I'm not telling you to buy crypto, but here's what I am telling you, you on your own have better get smart on your own.
Sit there, do your study, talk to people, because they're forcing you.
They're destroying the U.S.
dollar in front of our eyes, and they're destroying it for generations to come.
If they get this spending done, the $7 trillion programmatically that you can't take back, every person in this audience under 45 years old, You better start to look for another store of value than the U.S.
dollar.
You either got to look at precious metals, or you got to have to look at crypto.
Because they've destroyed, it's their, this is the machine.
The machine right now is out of control.
And you can see, look, let's talk facts.
Look at this gimmick.
Tonight, the one piece of leverage the deplorables have is the debt ceiling, right?
They've got to come to you and get 60 votes to kind of push the debt ceiling.
You've got them by the short and curlies.
And so tonight, as we sit here, they've got a gimmick up there to do it with 51 votes.
So they increase it and the Republicans don't have to take any hits for it.
It could go on.
They need, and remember, they can't sell enough bonds to the Japanese and to the Chinese or to the insurance companies, right?
They can't raise taxes.
Taxes, all revenues to the government's around three, three and a half trillion dollars, right?
They need that huge gap, which is a trillion and a half dollars a year.
In perpetuity, plus all these other crazy programs that are half-baked and they haven't thought through, that comes from printing money, okay?
And that is, when people think it's free, it's not free.
It's the full faith and credit of the United States of America.
That would be this audience, okay?
That is on your shoulders, okay?
And that is what's going to destroy us.
It's out of control and the Uniparty takes care of themselves.
That's why you have Wicker up there saying, yeah, we're thinking about combat troops and tactical nuclear weapons, the Uniparty, the Party of Davos, the Wall Street, the Global War Corporations, and the guys they paid in Washington, D.C.
tim pool
What do you think happens to property value?
steve bannon
Well, I think right now, that's what I think.
Look, with zero interest rates, this is the scam.
They have interest rates artificially low, near zero.
The assets are increased.
That's why you had the concentration coming off of the crash in 2008, the greatest concentration of wealth, because what they did, they took the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve from $880 million to $4.5 trillion, infused it with liquidity, the system with liquidity, assets blow up.
Trump called in 2012, best time to buy stocks or real estate.
It's coming right now.
The same thing's happened.
This is why we've had this greatest concentration of wealth ever, since the CCP virus, and it's going to continue.
As soon as they stop, as soon as they cut the machine off, the stock market will collapse.
tim pool
So for the average person who's listening, they got a mortgage on their house, you know, 35-year mortgage or 30-year mortgage or whatever.
What does this mean to them and their mortgage?
steve bannon
Well, if the 35-year mortgage has been done recently, first off, get as long-term as you can get, as cheap as you can get now, why rates are where they are.
Because remember, by and large, outside of your house, which I realize is 90% of your net worth, negative interest rates, low interest rates, is an unfair tax on working class people.
Your checking account, your savings account, you get no juice in it.
There's no way for you to accumulate any capital.
You're continually on the treadmill.
While the Larry Fink's are, why do you think they're going around saying,
you're not gonna own anything, you don't need to own anything.
We'll own it.
Larry Fink's going around, they're buying up all the apartment complexes,
buying up all the houses to rent it back to you.
So on your income, you pay for it, and they get the increase in the asset value.
luke rudkowski
You'll have no privacy, you will own nothing, and you'll be happier more than ever.
That's their policy that they've been pushing.
And since the beginning of COVID, I always said, the thing that's going to hurt people the
most is not this virus, but the economic consequences
of these larger moves that are being made, because it's not only the valuation of the US dollar.
It's not only hyper-printing the Federal Reserve just giving their friends all of their money on Wall Street, but it's also the destruction of the global supply chain and the global economy, which is being eviscerated right now, right in front of our eyes, and there's no fixing it, and it's only going to get way worse before it gets any better.
steve bannon
The two greatest concentrations of wealth in mankind's history was the result of the solution for the financial collapse brought on by Wall Street and their guys in Washington D.C.
in 2008, right, the solutions for that, and what happened with the CCP virus.
Those are the two greatest concentrations of wealth.
Now you have a 1% that owns 40 or 50% of the country.
Here's the thing.
If we don't start to restructure this and to get more capitalists into America, and that means every person's a capitalist, every person gets a piece of the action, This system, as we have it now, will not survive.
It cannot survive, because the only way it survives is they gotta keep printing money, and they're about at the end of that.
tim pool
I just need to point out, because you can't see it on the camera, or those who are just listening, that every time Luke starts talking and getting into it, Steve just starts pointing at him, nodding his head.
steve bannon
This is my anarchist!
This is my anarchist!
luke rudkowski
Welcome to the light side, Steve.
We're gonna enlighten you about government not being involved in our business.
unidentified
The Sith Lord appreciates that.
tim pool
Let's talk about, well, I guess on this issue, one thing that's always hard for me to answer, and that's why I asked about houses, is what regular people have to be worried about.
I think the obvious thing is the price of your groceries.
So I've gone to, I was at the grocery store recently and I asked the lady who was doing checkout how the price has been and she's telling me it's insane.
It's crazy.
We've got, you know, I hear from more and more people talking about how they go to the store and they can't afford it anymore.
So this is what happens.
You've got people in these big cities who vote in someone like Joe Biden because the media colludes to prop up a narrative, to protect him, to do whatever.
Then they don't know what's going on.
They're ill-informed.
For me, I'll tell you what I want.
I want regular people to have their own agency and their own power.
I want them to know as much as possible so they make the right decisions, so I don't gotta worry about it.
You know what's frustrating?
You know, I'm driving down the street and I see a guy and he's, you know, he's pushing a wheelbarrow, but he's backwards.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
And I'm like, that's frustrating to me.
Guys, spin it around, grab it by the handlebars.
Your life will be a whole lot easier.
Then I don't gotta worry about you screwing something up for everybody else.
But what's happening with the media, the things that Oliver Darcy points out, is that regular people are confused and wrong.
They thought Trump was the problem.
Joe Biden, the Biden administration, the remnants of Obama 2.0 or whatever, that is the problem.
It was the problem.
I recognized it then, and we're seeing it now.
steve bannon
I want to take this inflation thing.
Let's use this as an object lesson on their smugness and arrogance, and I want to tie it back to what he just said.
We now have a—remember, When guys like Peter Navarro and Steve Cortez on the war room every day, and we're the first ones to call the pandemic back in January 2020, which is the show those guys came on on the day that Biden took office.
I said, hey, you look at this guy's policies.
We're going to be heading into 1970 stagflation, which is slow growth and inflation.
They're the first guys to start talking about.
And Cortez is a guy in the pits as a trader and.
Navarro's a PhD from Harvard's economics department, top in the country, right?
And I know guys laugh at him, but he's a damn good economist.
They said this is not going to be transitory, because now you have the double whammy.
They've juiced the system, and they even sit there, Larry Summers, the guy said we should have never done that interim, we should have never done that last 1.9 trillion that we did, that Biden and those guys passed in the spring.
We shouldn't have done that.
So now you have the worst of both worlds.
You have what is called a demand pull, Right.
And cost push because of the broken supply chains and the structural problems that Novartis has never been dealt with from the CCP virus and particularly because in China.
So now you have a double whammy that's not transitory.
It's baked in.
It's six, eight, 10 percent.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
And think about it.
With wages increasing just two to three percent.
And inflation at six to eight percent.
That's a five to six percent absolute tax on working class people.
They're getting eviscerated right now.
And Ron Klain, the chief of staff of the White House 90 days ago, said these are high class problems.
Right, these are high-class problems.
tim pool
We saw that from the progressive left.
It's the same thing.
luke rudkowski
CNN said inflation is good for poor people and great for rich people.
steve bannon
Let's go to Darcy's thing.
That article right there is the single best example from Oliver Darcy's own network.
If you look at that article, it's a joke.
They came out the other day and said, What nobody's getting here in the messaging is that inflation is actually good for the poor and bad for the wealthy.
unidentified
Did you see the old... It's insane.
steve bannon
But this is they don't respect working class people enough to have the common decency to sit there and go, hey, here's where we are.
Here's what we're trying to accomplish.
Here's what it's going to be.
They just want to continue to browbeat you over there with information war to make it seem like it's your fault.
luke rudkowski
Well, that's because they're robbing and stealing them.
tim pool
There's an old SNL skit that's been going viral, and I think it's Dan Aykroyd who says, I think it was during Carter, hey, inflation's a good thing!
Don't you want to own a $5,000 suit?
Wouldn't you like to own a $500,000 car?
unidentified
I know I would!
tim pool
you like to own a $500,000 car? I know I would. Smoke a $50 cigar?
ian crossland
Maybe you can answer it, maybe you can't.
If you have a $100,000 house, the economy gets inflated by 50%.
The house naturally is worth $150,000 now, just due to inflation.
At what point, if you keep inflating the economy, does the house become worth zero?
Or does the house's value no longer, it's not worth $100 million anymore.
Like at what point do you inflate more money, but the value drops?
steve bannon
At the point where people can't afford to finance it, right?
You're going to have an asset bubble.
This is, okay.
One of the things that President Trump did, let's go back to 2008, which you know from the Occupy movement, when Obama came in and the balance sheet was $880 billion, and his guy said, let's inflate the balance sheet of the Fed, we'll just force cash into the system to save the system, to prop up assets, okay?
You had an asset bubble that was increasing.
When Trump came in, in his first two years of office with a 3% growth, he actually took a trillion dollars off the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve.
He actually shrunk, it wasn't quantitative easing, it was quantitative tightening, okay?
And that's one of the things he never gets credit for.
Those kind of growth rates, low inflation, with not un-juicing the system, was an act of heroism.
Now, Powell, when Powell came in and Mnuchin and these other guys, we started to put it back on.
You've got, you know, the balance sheet of the Fed, I think it's 6 trillion or 7 trillion today because of what the CCP writes.
Besides, that's over and above what the national debt is.
My point is, Wall Street always wants to inflate their way out of here.
The problem is you get an asset bubble and then people can't afford it.
And the real economy can't keep up.
You don't have people that have jobs that can start to afford your $100,000 house that's now a $1,000,000 house.
So you kind of get into a vicious circle.
And this is what people have a problem with.
This is the problem people have right now.
Zero hedge.
Has a great article.
I think it's from Birch Gold.
The guy's name is Brandon Smith.
I think it is.
It's on Zero Hedge Today.
It talks about the coming collapse, right?
And the coming collapse is when they got to stop printing money because in printing money, remember, it's on the backs of working class people.
You're going to you or your kids are eventually going to pay this off because they ain't paying it off.
Right?
So that's why it's got to be, certain things go up, and particularly like housing and some of your assets, your asset value will go up.
Now it's about, can you get priced out of, can kids today, because you have no capital, you have no ability to accumulate capital, how do you get the down payment?
Or you don't have a great enough job to actually make the mortgage payment.
unidentified
You're paying for it already with the dollar being devalued.
tim pool
Let's jump into the black mirror solution.
steve bannon
My anarchist economist right here.
tim pool
We got, uh, we got some news.
I mean, uh, so the first story that we saw about Elon Musk was that he was saying people gotta have more babies.
And then, Steve, you brought up that he was like, yeah, and he also said he's gonna implant chimps, chips in people.
Not chimps.
steve bannon
Chimps!
lydia smith
Chimps!
tim pool
In people.
luke rudkowski
He did it to a monkey first.
tim pool
Well, check out this story from Daily Mail.
Elon Musk says Neuralink could start implanting chips in humans in 2022.
People with severe spinal injuries would get the tech the billionaire says could help them walk again.
steve bannon
Trojan horse?
Yeah, that's the Trojan horse.
We're going to save the guys with the paraplegics and that's part of it's all great.
But this Neuralink is quite dangerous.
tim pool
Two TV shows I want to reference as we get into this.
Outer Limits and Stargate SG-1.
There's an Outer Limits episode where everyone's got a device on their faces that connects them to the stream of data.
But the stream is a collective, essentially, that is an AI that effectively controls people's minds, but they think they're getting clean information, they think they're being shown the truth, so they act upon what the information they're given is, although it's seeking to protect itself.
In Stargate SG-1, they go to a place where everyone's slowly dying off, and they're all, you know, connected to this, like, AI system that erases their memories as people die, so they don't know what's actually going on.
steve bannon
Wow.
tim pool
These are the dangers of what you get with a neural link.
I don't think this is true, but I was told the lore of the Borg in Star Trek, third show, is that they were like regular... Are you familiar with the concept of the Borg?
steve bannon
No.
tim pool
They're an alien... In Star Trek The Next Generation, they fly around these big cubes and they say, you will be assimilated.
Resistance is futile.
They are cybernetic, they are all one hive mind, and they implant you with chips to sync your brain up to their machine.
And the idea, I guess, was, again, I don't know if this is actually part of the Star Trek lore, but this is what I was told, they were regular people developing medical technology, just like us, and they started implanting more and more and more until they started connecting, and then the natural process by which they connected their minds created a hive mind naturally.
So we look at what Elon Musk is doing, and he says we're going to heal people.
How long until it's Twitter, but it is on steroids?
You've got everyone just marching in lockstep behind a tribal ideology.
steve bannon
This is why Facebook went to Meta.
Look, you have the convergence.
of a bunch of technologies that are happening here.
Advanced chip design, which is Neuralink.
You have artificial general intelligence, which is artificial intelligence that kind of recreates itself.
You have regenerative robotics.
You have CRISPR.
You have advances in biotechnology.
The convergence of those and a couple of other industries are converging on this point called the singularity.
On this side of that point is Homo sapiens.
On the other side of that, it's let's say it's Homo sapiens plus.
OK, and this is Hey, on climate change and all that, is that an immediate crisis?
I don't know.
I'm not a climate change denier, but I can look at the evidence and don't know if it's absolutely as immediate as they say.
The immediate one I can tell you is this crisis of we're coming towards this because there's no regulation on this.
Once again, your audience has to understand.
As happened with shipping all the jobs over to China, it's your money.
The Greek tragedy part of this, everything about the singularity is financed by the pension funds of the deplorables in this country.
They are the venture capital firms.
Remember, the venture capital firms, the private equity firms, the hedge funds, it's all your money.
From your pension funds, from your insurance companies, from your banks, that's the money that's done.
And what they're doing It's coming up with with the convergence of this that who knows, you know, they're going to be designer.
Who knows how this goes?
It is hurtling so fast.
And now this is the thing about Schmidt in that report.
And if you read Kissinger and Schmidt's book, they're telling you.
Well, guys, hey, guess what?
We don't have a choice here.
Because it's an arms race, the most dangerous weapons in the history of mankind are being developed right now in artificial intelligence.
Oh, by the way, the Chinese are here, the Russians are here.
So we have to get into this arms race.
So now you're going to have this exponential growth of this.
tim pool
In 30 years, there's going to be some 18-year-old who's had a neural link since he was born.
And he's going to be like, what's the big deal?
I mean, we've always had the chip.
We've always been implanted.
steve bannon
Okay, at Front National, National Rally, the political group in France, in January of this year, they had their annual meeting, the kickoff meeting, and they had a bunch of French thinkers come up and address them about what's happening in the economy, what's happening in the future.
A guy stood up, one of the top biotech investors in France, and said, the first post-homo sapien, full homo sapien, has been born today and they will be something that is post-man,
okay? Because of either a chip, artificial intelligence is implanted, who knows? My point
is if you look at it, you've got all these industries going down this path
totally unregulated with nobody looking at You've got DARPA, your tax dollars, you've got private equity, you've got stuff happening in China, South Korea, in Eastern Europe.
Nobody knows what's going on, right?
But you're seeing hints of it.
You're hearing hints of it from the Schmitz of the world and from people talking about national security saying, well, you know, there's some artificial intelligence weapons that could be, you know, very scary.
You've got the hyper... People are sitting there going... You've got the guy who came out the other day on the Defense Department saying, we're so far behind where the Chinese are.
Okay.
Then you don't even talk about the CRISPR part, which could get to the biological weapons.
We have no earthy idea what's going on.
We have no ability to control it right now because, look, I'm a fighter and I fought globalization and I will take on a lot of fights.
This one right here, you kind of sit there and go, where do we even start?
tim pool
Why would the elites want the plebs to be in their neural link network?
steve bannon
They don't.
Here's what, it was Jane Goodall said the other day, is that they, she said the other day, the carrying capacity, their mentality is that, because you can't solve the global crisis, the math doesn't work to solve anything on the climate change crisis at the scale you have of people today, of 7 billion people, okay?
Her thing was, hey, the carrying capacity of the Earth that's correct is 500 million.
So what the elites want is 500 million, right?
And so they say the replacement strategy, it's not about whites versus Hispanics versus blacks.
It's about Homo sapiens versus the elites want, and all of them focus on this one thing, which is life extension, right?
The Veritas guys, when they were in the Facebook, that Facebook, you know, he's talking up the young girl and being a big shot and talking about how they worked the election against Trump.
The last part of it's the buried lead.
He goes, oh, by the way, all Zuckerberg and the wife spend their time on is eternal life and meta-adversity.
He's the one that dropped the bomb on meta, that they're going to a whole different thing of the embodied Internet.
And that's where they spend their time.
You make a big deal about this election, they don't spend any time on that.
They really spend their time on this.
The elites in the world.
are spending their time now financing and looking at extending life.
Because all of them are godless.
They're all atheistic materialists.
They want to live forever.
Okay?
They're in back of this whole thing.
And this is not a conspiracy theory.
This is not a conspiracy theory.
Look at Facebook and Meta.
luke rudkowski
And they have enough power and influence and money to do so.
And it's not just foreign countries.
But Steve, it's not just foreign countries.
It's Amazon.
It's Google developing artificial intelligence.
steve bannon
It's also working with China in order to do Zuckerberg, Google, these are like, we're back in the middle ages where you have city-states.
Amazon and Google, and that's why I'm a radical populist in this.
These companies immediately have to be taken over.
Immediately have to be controlled like public utilities.
They have to get 7% returns.
They have to be under the control of the people of this country.
They have to be controlled like the regional bail operating companies were back in the 50s and 60s, the bail thing.
They have to be treated as public utilities.
You cannot let a handful of people Okay, on the deplorables money, remember Zuckerberg and these guys had no cash in the beginning, this was all their money.
Now these companies are out of control.
To me, meta, before you get to the embodied internet, we ought to understand what the embodied internet's going to be to the people.
Look at the ad they have, this meta ad you see with the... The metaverse.
Metaverse, you talk about mankind being asleep and just sleepwalking through life, you look at that ad, that ad is like, Oh, we're going to entice you into this new pod living, and you're going to be totally asleep.
This is the sleep of mankind.
unidentified
Did you see the suicide pods in Switzerland?
steve bannon
In Switzerland, no.
luke rudkowski
Elon Musk even has monkeys with brain chips that are playing video games right now as we're speaking, as the World Economic Forum literally just released a statement with one of its representatives talking about how we need a population of the world That was 500 years ago.
500 years ago, the population of the world was 461 million people, and they're talking about overpopulation leading to all the world's problems.
steve bannon
This is not some schmendrick.
This is Jane Goodall.
Now, she's been saying it forever, but she says, they asked her, and I've heard this from people, they call it the carrying capacity of the earth.
They've run the numbers on this.
This is not, I'm not a conspiracy theory guy.
This is something they work on all the time, and you can see by these different technologies.
It shouldn't be lost on people.
When China went to the, when the CCP went to 10 years ago, made in China 2025, of which they never talk about anymore because they realized they got people's attention on that.
The top, of the top 10 industries, they said the 10 industries they were going to dominate by the year 2025.
The top six were the industries that converge into the singularity.
OK?
CRISPR, advanced chip design, artificial intelligence, artificial general intelligence, robotics, robotics, regenerative robotics.
This is happening today.
This is not science fiction.
We've hired, by the way, guys at War Room.
Joe Allen runs a team, right?
We're adding more people to it just to focus on transhumanism, because I keep telling people, set climate change off the side.
That may be, maybe not.
Who knows?
Okay, but this is real and this is going to happen not in 50 years, not in 30 years, in 10 years.
I think you're going to hit the singularity.
tim pool
What does that mean?
steve bannon
That means you're going to have the ability to have a post-homo sapien, either between neural link, artificial intelligence, a combination of biotechnology.
tim pool
What does that mean for our lives?
What will we experience?
luke rudkowski
People tapped into the system, the system that they control.
steve bannon
Exactly.
First off, you're going to have somebody that you're going to have, your kids are going to be competing or could compete against people, beings that are just not homo sapiens as we know it, right?
People that do their own native intelligence, hard work, diligence, but have either have chips in them, have artificial intelligence, have biological, have been biologically changed somehow.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
Through CRISPR or other technologies that are in designer species that are over and above.
Now, how is that supposed to compete in college, in education, for jobs?
All of a sudden, you're in a species that's not the highest species, right?
So, you're a homo sapien.
There's a homo sapien plus.
Now, I realize a lot of people will say, Ben has lost it.
luke rudkowski
No, no, no, no, you're absolutely right because I've been researching and studying this thing for like 20 years.
They're laying the groundwork right now, especially with the future that you're talking about where you're going to have to have a government approved medical procedure to be a part of society and you will be kicked out of society.
You won't have a good social credit score unless you have been injectable that allows you to do so.
steve bannon
If you think I'm crazy, let's go to every major private venture capital firm in the country on their annual meeting where they put up their deals.
You look at their deals in technology and artificial intelligence and machine learning and biotechnology, it lines up to one of these verticals.
And these people will tell you, these verticals are converging.
They're converging to a point called what Ray Kurzweil.
Kurzweil, who was thought of as a nutcase when he came up with this concept 20 years ago, Kurzweil, the singularity, he's the EVP of research and development for, wait for it, Google.
Okay, these are the guy deep mind you've got some obviously the smartest guys in the world are working on these things and they're converging and this is a Crisis that's building up because this is the kind of thing like how do you even regulate it?
How do you how do you how do you govern it?
How and so all this science fiction has been written about This is now science fact.
Yeah, look Elon Musk People that know him will tell you, maybe not the best manager in the world, but he's one of the top engineers in the world.
When that guy comes out and says, in the fall of 2022, that would be less than a year away, I'm going to be able to insert a chip into a human mind.
Okay, a human mind that's going to take care of somebody who's been a who's no spinal cord who's a paraplegic
That's where it's going to start. Okay, but trust me. They've got stuff in the neural link lab right now
That ain't just working on paraplegics It just it started with the monkey controlling a video game
luke rudkowski
with the chip implanted in its head And there's a reason a lot of the top globalists, a lot of the top corporatists, are eugenicists, believe in population control, and ultimately are transhumanists who want to transcend the human spirit, the human energy, into their own form of reality where they control every aspect of it.
That's essentially the endgame.
It sounds crazy, but there's a lot of insane technological advancements that we don't even know about that we should be talking about.
I can't believe I'm saying this.
I believe in anarchy.
Should be some regulations surrounding it.
steve bannon
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It has to be regular.
First off, when Eric Schmidt came out with this, I think, 800-page report about a year ago on artificial intelligence that he had done for the Defense Department, and he'd done it on Trump's watch.
He signaled right there, and he said, we're in an arms race, and China is so far advanced, and you've heard guys come out since then, including the people at the Pentagon, that are in charge of everything in this town, saying, hey, we're so far behind.
All of a sudden you get into an arms race on this thing, it's your nuclear weapons.
You started at something at Nagasaki and Hiroshima, that was one thing, and now because of the perfection of it, right?
Think about it for a second.
more computing capacity in that phone than there was in the Kennedy Space Center when
unidentified
Yep.
steve bannon
a man went to the moon.
tim pool
4 kilobits.
steve bannon
That's the other thing.
In fact, Joe Allen, there's an analysis out by a guy, I think he's at MIT, and Joe, I
apologize if I don't get it right.
Moore's law, which is the driver of the chip that goes in your brain from Elon Musk, is
Every 18 months, the computing capacity is going to cut a size and it's going to double.
tim pool
Every two years, computing power doubles?
luke rudkowski
Doubles.
steve bannon
It's about 18 months.
That's Moore's Law, but two years.
In A.I., the guy did the analysis in A.I., Joe Allen's fact got it up on Warren.org, a summary of the article.
He said, hey, they've got a Moore's law on artificial intelligence, but it's not doubling every 18 months.
It's 6X.
luke rudkowski
It's perpetual growth that goes up dramatically.
tim pool
Do you know what the event horizon is?
When A.I.
gains the ability to code itself.
steve bannon
Artificial General Intelligence.
Because you have Artificial Intelligence and Regenerative Robotics.
When it codes itself as Artificial General Intelligence.
Now, some guys will tell you, that's a fantasy, it'll never be able to happen.
There's other guys that say, hey, I think we're on the glide slope indicator for like 10 years.
My point, we don't know.
But what we do know is a massive amount of capital, of your capital, of people's capital, is going into this.
And it's not being discussed, DARPA, Your tax dollars to the federal government, okay?
All these universities everybody goes to are massive research labs for this.
Remember, University of North Carolina was one of the biggest testing groups for starting the CCP virus and nobody knew it went on at Chapel Hill, okay?
There are things at every research university in the country, tremendous amount of resources on your tax dollars and all your pension funds are fueling this right now.
And nobody talks about it.
Elon Musk drops this thing out.
Well, look at this.
And it's always some goodwill thing, which is fine.
This is to help paraplegic people and people who can never move.
Hey, look, trust me, that's the first thing they're leading with.
They've got a whole raft of R&D internally that ain't just helping the people that are crippled.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, sure.
And Bill Gates is working on digital contraception that you could control for a button for people's convenience.
Sure.
And Bannett gets an incredible amount of government money, but it's also being financed in another way right now.
When we have the largest... Let's go with it.
sorry, sorry, not Bannon, but Musk.
unidentified
You will though.
That's an incredible, that's a Freudian slip.
luke rudkowski
Musk gets an incredible amount of money from the federal government,
but there's also the largest transfer of wealth in recorded human history happening right now,
taking money from the poor and middle class and literally being transferred to the billionaire
class that's building the prison, building this online technocracy that we're going to be living
in soon.
steve bannon
One of the reasons we're doing transhumanism, I said this in a speech in Italy a couple of years ago, I said, look, globalization came about because all these forces kind of came together and nobody stopped it and nobody talked about it.
And it was all supposed to be great.
It turned out not to be great.
It turned out to have many more, more bad things happen than good things happen.
And that's why you have the stripping away of jobs, you know, what happened in the United States, all the factories leaving, etc.
Transhumanism is the same thing, except it's to the 10th scale.
Because globalization, you can start to unwind it.
It's tough, but we are unwinding it to a large extent throughout the world.
Transhumanism, once you hit the singularity and you're on the other side of it, you can't put that genie back in the bottle.
The only point I make is that there's so much research going on, and you've got to avoid the thing of conspiracy theories and, you know, half-baked ideas.
Just look at the verticals.
People are going to cheer for it.
what they try to dominate. Take those same verticals. Look what's happening in the United
States. Go to Drudge. I mean, Drudge has got one of the best transhumanist section. Now
it's all over the page. You got artificial intelligence here. You got robotics here.
You got things. But if you look at just the news every day that's coming out and that's
only going to accelerate, it's going to accelerate at an accelerating speed. And we need to get
ahead of that. We need to get ahead of it now.
tim pool
They're going to celebrate it. They're going to they're going to create that neural link
chip, which is going to grant you access to Skyrim.
Don't you want to be the noble warrior fighting the dragon?
Just implant the chip and plug on in, baby?
luke rudkowski
The companies building it are the ones already helping influence elections.
So when we look at Google, when we look at Amazon, we see them already controlling the minds of the people.
We see them controlling culture.
We see them controlling entertainment.
So of course, they're going to build a support system that's going to have people saying, yes, please inject me with this latest chip.
ian crossland
going to create chips where I can read it's read only so I can read everybody's brain.
I'm basically part of the collective. I can read the internet. I can read everything. Then
they're going to have a certain class of people that can't afford or whatever. They're going to
have right chips where you can write on their brain. Any of us in a class of read only of our
elite class can write on their brains and basically mind control them. If you opt out,
steve bannon
this is like the vaccine manager. If you opt out, remember, they're trying to make you an
untouchable right now.
Whether you're an anti-vaxxer or vaccine-hesitant or vaccine-resistant.
They're trying to other you.
Look what's happening in Austria.
Things that would be conspiracy theories in the summer are now facts.
Austria says everybody that's unvaccinated is going to be locked down, then we're going to lock everybody down.
Oh, by the way, on 1 February, mandatory vaccination for the entire nation.
Germany says the same thing.
It's going to happen.
We're going to put it in front of the Bundestag in early February.
Mandatory vaccinations.
Things people would say, oh that's Bannon and Tim Pool and all these crazies.
These are all facts coming together now.
So if you opt out of the singularity, From a moral or religious or spiritual point of view, if you think that's going to make the vaccine mandate look like a garden party.
tim pool
Did you see in Sweden they're already implanting chips in their hands?
steve bannon
I saw that.
tim pool
And that could just be some trendy people trying to, you know... No, but it is trendy.
steve bannon
It is, but it's a beta site test.
unidentified
They've been doing the Verichip thing for over a decade.
tim pool
How long has it been?
steve bannon
If you combine it all, if you look at it, and then you're going to have a bombshell.
Oh, by the way, in the fall of 2022, we're going to have the ability to put a silicon chip Right?
In your brain.
To make the people that can't walk and can't move will be able to do all of their functions.
Think about that for a second.
What we have not been able to do with medicine.
And that's just the first of many.
You're going to see these announcements every day.
tim pool
Here's the issue.
To elaborate on what Ian said about read-only and write.
Actually, I think what he may be missing is that it's not going to be that read-only is available for the people.
You get your Neuralink chip, there's going to be police chips.
The police are granted a chip that can read your chip.
It's not about whether you- you think they're gonna give you the ability to read someone else's private info?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
The authorities will, however, walk up and say, what are you doing here?
Ah, that's a lie.
I can see it.
I've got a read chip.
Then there's going to be high-ranking elites with the right chip, which can change what's in your chip and can shut you out, can shut you down.
Law enforcement might be able to do that.
steve bannon
But imagine if every venture capital firm had a public presentation and went online, had a public presentation and say, here's where our investments are.
Here's what these companies look like in five or 10 years.
Here's what the technology can be developed.
The American people would be shocked.
What's going on here?
tim pool
They won't need tasers ever again.
If they can give you the ability to connect to your spine, they can certainly interrupt that signal, can't they?
So the police officer walks up, and the person tries to run, and then all of a sudden the person just stops.
Dead in their tracks.
Why?
Because the police have the ability to, you know, through Bluetooth, within a certain range, disable motor functions.
If the chips can grant it, certainly they can interrupt those signals.
Is that a possibility?
I think it certainly is, but I don't know, about in 10 years?
Because they gotta get everyone to view this as normal first.
That's why I said in 30 years there's gonna be some 18-year-old who's like, you guys, why are you complaining?
Whatever, we've always had our chips.
I mean, how many people make videos today where they're like, the government is forcing us to register a number with them in order to live and work and get access to public accommodation?
This is a violation of our civil rights.
Nobody, not a single person, is putting out videos complaining about social security numbers.
So in 30 years, not a single person will be complaining about the singularity.
They'll be in it, and they'll be happy.
They'll also own nothing.
luke rudkowski
When Putin's talking about weaponizing artificial intelligence, I don't think many people even
realize or understand or could even comprehend the ways that it could be used against populations.
So that's one way, one basic way that you're explaining it.
But there's multiple personalities.
When you have an intelligence that is higher than you, higher than any smart person in
this entire world, and when you have that capability, when you have that power, how
can you control it?
How can you stop someone who's a megalomaniac from wielding it?
That's the real question that I think we should be asking ourselves, especially with the consequences.
tim pool
Someone said it's been two years and there are already camps in Australia.
No due process.
You're taken from your home.
You are placed in the camp.
No due process.
steve bannon
Let me say another thing about many of the scientists and technology, uh, technologists that are in these different verticals also understand the deep moral and ethical problems that they face.
I think it's Dr. Doudna, who the book, um, Isaacson's book that won the Pulitzer prize.
I think she won the Nobel prize.
I think they won Pulitzer prize.
The book about her and CRISPR.
Her book, the book she actually wrote that came out before that book was her doubts about and questions about bioethics.
So people in these different areas, there's many people right now that are very concerned.
And if you talk to them off the record, right, they're very concerned about where all this is heading.
Whereas the benefits may be tremendous in combination or where we're heading hasn't been thought through yet.
tim pool
What do you think about the Mark of the Beast?
steve bannon
What do you mean the Mark of the Beast?
tim pool
That you cannot buy, sell, or trade without the Mark of the Beast.
It's from what, Revelation?
steve bannon
Revelation, yeah.
Yes, I know the apocalypse.
tim pool
Well, I didn't know that.
steve bannon
You didn't know?
tim pool
I didn't know the buy, sell, or trade.
I just assumed, like, my general understanding without having looked into it was just that, you know, the apocalypse would happen and people have this mark.
And then someone mentioned with the mark, you could not buy, sell, or trade unless you, you know, had the Mark of the Beast.
And I'm like, okay, that's really specific.
That's kind of crazy, right?
Although I do think there's been many, you know, instances, I mean, Nazi Germany, for instance, where your papers, where they've implemented some kind of mandate.
But, you know, people now in the chat are alluding to... Well, that's the vaccine passports.
steve bannon
The vaccine passports are an entry-level part of that.
tim pool
But it's social credit scores.
unidentified
You have a social credit score here.
steve bannon
That's why you're de-platformed or de-financed and de-banked.
Anybody that's considered an insurrectionist or anybody that's considered anything with 6 January has been de-platformed.
Look, Donald Trump, he's starting his own social media company now because it's commander-in-chief.
Before he was out of office, he was de-platformed by these social media.
You know, Miles Guo told me years ago, he said, as powerful as nuclear weapons are, social media is ten times more powerful.
And the Chinese Communist Party know it.
That's why they decapitated, that's why they made a decision to go to their own technology companies to start to control these companies in the West.
That's why they eviscerated the tech companies back in the spring of this year, where I think it was $600 billion of market cap that was lost, of American pension fund money, to get control of it.
So, we live in an era of social credit scores.
That's not theory, that's practice.
luke rudkowski
And yeah, and it's also with the ESG, with major corporations, and it's also with another corporate social credit score that people don't even know about, with corporations leveling you, giving you a score on not just what they could sell you, but your beliefs and your systems as well.
steve bannon
Look, New York City just came out the other day.
Blasio said by December 27th, that's in what, three weeks, And did you see the Prime Minister I think in New Zealand said, this will never end?
And children from 5 to 11 are going to have to have a passport to get in basically any
function in New York City.
tim pool
And did you see the Prime Minister I think in New Zealand said this will never end?
I think you tweeted that.
luke rudkowski
Yep.
tim pool
What's her name?
Jacinda or something?
We gotta go to Super Chats, though.
We're gonna go to Super Chats, take some questions from all you guys who've been Super Chatting away, so don't forget to smash that Like button, subscribe to the channel.
We're gonna have a Members Only segment coming up around 11 or so, I can only imagine.
That will be fun and spicy, so let's read what we got.
All right, let's see, I see a lot of people keep demanding that I mention FJB, which I gotta say, there you go, I mentioned it.
FJB, the- The crypto or whatever.
I actually find it, we get so many people trying to pump for their pump and dump scams with crap coins, we'll keep it ish coins.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's the newest.
tim pool
So I get it, you know, it's funny to make fun of Joe Biden, but seriously, like people who wanna come on here and try and pump whatever coin of the day it is, they're trying to make money off of, I'll take your money with your super chip, but I ain't gonna read it.
Because this is not what we're trying to do.
We're trying to have serious questions.
steve bannon
So what are they doing with the coin?
ian crossland
It's just literally a coin.
tim pool
The purpose of it is, if you don't like Joe Biden, buy it, it pumps or whatever, and people are trying to pump and dump.
So there's a whole bunch of these, like, I mean, fine, you can do it, but people are basically playing a game of hot potato.
They say, hey, everyone buy this, buy this thing, and then people do, and then people sell out.
ian crossland
It's really interesting to have 100 million people be like, hey, let's all buy, poor people, be like, let's buy this, and they all buy it, and then they all sell it and make money off of it.
tim pool
They don't all sell it and make money off of it.
unidentified
Yeah, not all of them.
tim pool
It's hot potatoes.
Other people come in.
It's really... So long, yeah, what is that?
What kind of scheme is that?
ian crossland
So long as everyone keeps pumping it, you don't gotta... Like, the SEC's made it illegal with stocks, I would imagine, right?
tim pool
Well, let's talk about what's really going on.
Here's an important one from Eric Johnson.
Tim, I made a giardiniera pizza like you described it last night, and it was great.
FJB.
There you go.
You know what giardiniera is?
steve bannon
No.
tim pool
It's like, I don't know what it is.
lydia smith
Pickled vegetables.
tim pool
I don't know.
Pickled vegetables, spicy jalapenos.
And it's a big thing in Chicago.
steve bannon
Pickled vegetables.
tim pool
Like cauliflower, carrots, jalapenos.
And I think celery too.
I don't know.
Yeah, celery.
They put it on sandwiches and stuff.
I love putting it over a pizza and then baking it.
So good.
All right, let's see what we got.
We got Punisher Gaming says, I've really enjoyed watching Tim slowly red pill himself
by passing out red pills.
Never get high on your own supply.
Love you guys.
We don't always agree, but truly search for the truth.
You have my respect.
I appreciate it, man.
All right, Dim Sum Nim Sum says, we are hoping for funds to help the obvious financials.
Oh, okay, this is about the other one here.
Dim Sum says, hoping you will shout out and share my sister's GoFundMe.
She has thyroid cancer.
We're hoping for funds to help the obvious financials she will need to pay because she will be getting ionized radiation treatment.
Interesting.
I suppose I could shout it out, but there's no information to shout out.
But, you know, sorry to hear it, man.
Good luck.
Alright, Charles Baliozian says, Yeah.
Don't forget about Erdogan in Turkey.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
The lira is soaring higher than the Dogecoin.
Turkey has full control of Azerbaijan and Syrian militia.
When times are bad, war comms watch out for Turkey.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
steve bannon
A great NATO ally.
tim pool
Oh, I guess people are saying that FJB is being used to donate to people, to veterans.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Bar League says, FJB, the official cryptocurrency of the Let's Go Brandon community, loves Steve Bannon and Tim Pool.
$50k donated to veterans in 40 days.
unidentified
All right, all right, all right.
tim pool
So I apologize.
steve bannon
I think you can take the transaction fees off of these things.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that's what they're doing.
They're using it to, in that case, oh, hey guys, shout out FJB.
How could something named FJB be a scam?
steve bannon
so many people. You see, all sudden, all sudden you just, you turn so quickly. We just get
tim pool
so many people who are like, scam crypto, scam crypto. So I'm like, here we go again.
We got people saying, you know, whatever. But if it's. How could FJ, how could something
steve bannon
named FJB be a scam? That's a deeply rooted, that's a deeply rooted primal scream. Yeah,
tim pool
agreed. All right. Joshua Schrader says, Hey Tim, as you know, I didn't know this, the
new FJB coin cryptocurrency, or maybe someone brought this up before and I forgot about
it, has been doing so much for our veterans, but did you know they're also teaming up to
launch the first decentralized media blockchain?
No more censorship from tech tyrants, God bless.
All right, well there you go, all right.
I like donations to veterans.
steve bannon
You learn something new every day.
tim pool
There you go.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm on the website, letsgobrandoncoin.io.
I'm looking, they say what they donate to veterans, but I'm trying to find out exactly what's getting donated.
steve bannon
I think there's a transaction fee, right, when you do it.
I think a part of that transaction fee goes to veterans.
Oh!
tim pool
Chris B says, Steve, as someone who wants to be more of a bookworm, do you have a list of books to read for those of us who want better understanding of the world and history?
steve bannon
Yes.
Should I give that?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Name some books.
What do you think?
steve bannon
The first one I'd read is in a bridge, and maybe I'll come back and give it to you, the bridge version of Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbons.
The extended version's a little long.
You definitely should read that.
I would read The Best and the Brightest, about the Kennedy and the Vietnam War.
Definitely would read that.
I would read...
I'm trying to think.
There's so much great stuff to read.
If you want to read about a tremendous individual, right?
Well, I think the greatest president we've ever had and probably the greatest individual in this country, Lincoln.
You can read Gore Vidal's novel, Lincoln, about how people make tough decisions under under tough situations.
Also, there's tons of There's a great book on geopolitics by Mackinder.
You ought to read that.
Just basics of geopolitics of the world island and Central Asia and how central it is to, how critical it is to kind of world history.
So I think those are two or three right off the bat.
I'm not trying to think about something in technology or AI that I could recommend right now to read.
I'll think about that in a second, but there's so much to read in artificial intelligence and economics and all that.
That's very important today.
tim pool
All right, FNP says, Steve, do you believe China's obscure and fraudulent financial structure can collapse, and what is the geopolitical implications of a collapsing China?
steve bannon
Absolutely, I think it can collapse.
I think it shouldn't be lost either.
I think it was Grande today, went outside the 30-day window of making their interest payment on the bonds.
China is a house of cards, even more so than the United States and the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England and the whole Judeo-Christian West's financial system.
China is to the fifth power.
They just continue to kind of print money, right?
And they keep it going and they live off of our dollars, four trillion dollars of U.S.
capital.
If we cut China off from our capital markets, the Chinese Communist Party would collapse in 90 days.
Now, unfortunately, our financial system would also take a major hit, an implosion.
That's why it has to be kind of a level down of these gangsters.
But no, The shadow banking, what you're seeing in China is absolutely incredible.
And here's the thing, remember, the Chinese people, Lao Bai Jing, these noble people of China, old hunter names, save 50 cents of every dollar.
They work as slave labor, but they save 50 cents every dollar because there's no social safety net.
That capital has been basically exploited by the Chinese Communist Party.
They're the first people who are going to get wiped out in the implosion of this real estate market.
That's why you're seeing these videos.
You have the table of the company and the people are coming in and women are sitting there with knives up to their throat saying, I'll slit my own throat right now unless you give me my cash back or show up with the real estate because I've lost everything.
So the Chinese people are going to be abused here, but I 100% agree with him that it is a completely phony system.
Totally, they manage every number there.
Everything they tell you to the West is an absolute lie.
And Larry Fink and all these Wall Street guys have done nothing but put American capital, which is basically the pension funds of the United States, in there to finance the stripping of our, what I call the stripping of the altars, right?
To take all the high value manufacturing jobs over there and now to prop up their real estate market.
tim pool
All right.
Dawson Jekyll says, you might as well take the money I was going to spend on vodka and food.
Denied service and entry for not showing Vax Passport.
Welcome to Chinatown and our new national anthem.
Oh, Chinatown, this is our leader's land.
In true communist love, all of us bow down.
With cowardly hearts, we see the rise.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
It's crazy what's happening in Canada.
Justin Trudeau, by the way, even publicly came out and he said one of the things that he likes about the governments in the world, one of the things that sticks out to him is the economy and how it's run in China.
And he looks up to the way that they do business there, which is absolutely crazy and mind-blowing.
tim pool
There you go, man.
steve bannon
He's beyond the Manchurian candidate.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
steve bannon
Of course his father knows something about communism.
luke rudkowski
Whoa!
steve bannon
I went there.
luke rudkowski
I was thinking it.
steve bannon
I went there.
tim pool
LTG says, I work for NATO in NL.
Russia will not invade Ukraine.
Will they not?
steve bannon
Good.
tim pool
So it's all just a distraction?
Ben Hairston says, forget gold, buy chickens.
They taste better.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And what are you going to do?
Carry around gold as you wander from outpost to outpost?
No, the chickens follow.
You put them on little chicken leashes, you know, and you just make them walk.
They walk themselves.
They'll walk and eat at the same time.
All right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, hey all.
Steve, at first I didn't know you.
Now after IRL, sir, you are a populist and a dang good one at that.
Also, why are you wearing three pens?
steve bannon
It's code.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
It's a two-pen day, three-pen day.
tim pool
A lot of people said, after the first second, you were on, what is it, the third time you've joined us now?
Third time.
steve bannon
I was in the old place.
tim pool
Right, the other studio.
steve bannon
I was in the other studio.
tim pool
We've had a lot of people say that the only thing they've ever heard of you is what the media had been saying about you.
And then to actually hear you speak and hear your ideas, they were like, wow, was the media lying.
And I'm kind of like, do you watch this show?
Cause that's all we basically just say that all the time the media is lying.
So of course people actually hear what you have to say.
And they're like, this guy actually doesn't sound far right at all.
Like the media certainly tries to claim it.
I mean, you said it, but when you talk about taxing the rich or the 1% or whatever, that's just populism.
It's kind of like centrist.
steve bannon
I'm more than just tax the rich.
I think we have to think about a reallocation of assets and resources.
tim pool
That's leftist!
steve bannon
That's not leftist.
Here's the problem with American capitalism.
There's not many capitalists.
A right wing or a what they call far right or a center right populist believes the central part of this is everybody's got to have a piece of the action, right?
The problem we've had over the last 40, 50 years is that too much of returns have been to capital.
What causes liquidity?
to labor. And so the people, the backbone of the civic society that keeps, people say,
well, the United States, the capital markets are so robust, you know, people want to buy in the
bonds, they want to buy the stocks. And I go, why is that?
And so what's so liquid? I said, well, what causes liquidity? What's so safe? Well, it's not
the Security Exchange Commission and our laws and regulations, which are very good, but
there are other security laws and security laws around the country.
It's our civic society.
It's the underpinnings of the safety and security of the United States of America.
And that's every cop, every teacher, every nurse, everybody that coaches Little League that provides this thing called America.
That is this, this, this, this sovereign nation, right?
That security, that civic society, the thing that every day you see people going to work and kind of self-organizes.
That has not been, they have not gotten enough of the peace of the action.
That's why people have been here, you know, 10 generations, 9 generations, 8 generations, and right now you're sitting there with, you know, 50% of the families in this country can't put together $1,000 in cash, money.
Half the households in this country.
I think still 80% of people's net worth is tied up in the equity of their home.
That has to change.
We can't have this concentration where our founders, the framers of the Constitution, the founders that fought the revolution was against an arrogant landed aristocracy both in Parliament and in the Crown.
They would be stunned and shocked to come back here today and see that we've turned into an oligarchy.
That we have basically turned into, almost like Russia, with the tech oligarchs, the oligarchs on Wall Street, and now they're paid servants in Washington D.C.
Remember, those guys are just paid.
They're just on the payroll.
They don't have any power.
Power is in the global corporations, in tech, and in Wall Street.
And they control these guys, and that's what we have.
This country can't go on like that.
Because I keep telling people, you're going to have some Socialist, left-wing, inefficient, debacle, where you're just getting tip money, or we have to go to a system that everybody has a piece of the action and that we have controlled labor markets that people, the wages can rise.
If we do that and people get peace and get prosperity, America could be on the verge of a massive renaissance, and that's within our boundaries to do.
tim pool
During Occupy Wall Street, around this time period, there was a document that was made by Citigroup calling America a plutonomy.
They said it's no longer a constitutional republic, it's a plutonomy where the wealthy control everything.
And this was like a serious document outlining how the country works.
And then we saw other data that says, the opinions of the general public have zero bearing on the votes of members of Congress.
steve bannon
Yeah, I've seen that.
tim pool
Yep.
steve bannon
This is why, one thing, I want to go back to World Economic Forum, and their advertising and marketing, where they say, you're not going to own anything, and you're going to be happy.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
Kind of in the Zen space.
They're not wrong.
They're not wrong.
I would like to have a system where you are going to own things, called assets.
You're going to have real assets, like in real estate.
You're also going to have securities and stocks.
You're going to actually have ownership You know, we talk about, and the guys on the left all the time, and I too, about the carried interest.
You know, going after carried interest on the private equity firms, you know, starting to tax carried interest.
I want to have a different system.
I want to have the American people, each individual has a carried interest in the nation.
Has a carried interest in the economy of the nation.
Not just more, and by the way, if they pass Build Back Broke and all this other stuff... But that's what the devil says.
tim pool
They say they want everyone who's a stakeholder in our system to be actively involved.
steve bannon
But they don't want you to own anything.
They'd say it right there, you're not going to own anything, you're going to be happy.
You're just going to be a part of the proletariat, right?
You're just going to be a working stiff.
And what's going to happen is... Until they get to the time that they can go homo sapien plus, and then you're going to be unnecessary.
tim pool
And I think Harriet Tubman was who said, I have freed many slaves, I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves.
They take away your ability to understand what you don't have and you won't crave what you don't know exists.
steve bannon
A French poet who died at Verdun in the early days of World War I, he was a devout Catholic and he had this great saying, he says, it's not for us to report what we see.
It's most important for you to see what you see.
That is the important thing in your life today, to see what you see.
Take the blinders off.
Look at what real reality is.
Once you do that, you'll be in solidarity of people that want to change the system.
Change the system opposite of state-owned socialism and communism and Marxism, but to true freedom.
tim pool
Marty Smith fan.
He's got, he's very on point with this one.
He says, I became a Timcast member today because I appreciate Steve Bannon, and that third hour is must-see.
War Room Posse in the house.
That's right, a Timcast member.
steve bannon
Love the posse.
FJB, baby.
tim pool
In the events, the website was basically us being like, we need to expand, and we need to be, we need to have our, you know, preparations to be independent from any of these big social network sites to have our own website.
steve bannon
You're like Citizen Kane.
You're like John Foster Kane or whatever it is.
Charles Foster Kane.
You've got an empire.
You've got an empire.
Seriously, for all the Timcast people, I came here and the old studio was fantastic.
It was great.
But it's not what I'm sitting in today.
I mean, this is like... It's growing.
This is a super upgrade.
tim pool
It's not easy, though, man.
You know, we're navigating the minefields, trying to make sure that there's the conversations that we can still have.
And then, you know, effectively... Social credit score.
steve bannon
Think about what you just said.
When Tim pooled, You've got a lot of scars and combat experience in this whole movement from the Occupy days and you were in Ukraine.
tim pool
I was in Venezuela.
steve bannon
Venezuela, you've been through some tough stuff.
Think about it for a second and you're not crazy, you're very reasoned.
You've got some ideas that are out there but you're very reasoned.
When you start every broadcast, And you think, I've got to watch what I say on these topics.
They're winning.
That's the system we've got to get away from.
Because we've got to, as a country, push the envelope.
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
We should leave the battlefield because it's dangerous.
And this is what's really frustrating to me, and I talked with Alex Jones about this.
I said, the right is losing because they're reckless and they have no tact.
They are saying, I'm going to go out into the middle of the battlefield with no strategy and no plan for how I confront those that oppose my ideas, and then they get wiped off the map in two seconds.
And so, as much as there is an issue with, we need to be able to talk and have these conversations, there's also the complete knowledge and understanding that YouTube, Twitter, Facebook are key areas of a battle of ideas and information.
And when you are confronting ideological opponents on that battlefield, if your idea is, I'm going to walk in right in the middle and yell out exactly how I feel, don't be surprised when you're no longer part of the equation.
But I like that movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson a whole lot, because what does he do?
As one guy with his two kids, ambushes the British and takes on massive amounts of the battalions because he thinks about what he's doing first.
So let's think about what's happening.
You've been banned from YouTube.
We haven't.
Yet.
steve bannon
And here you are.
I've been banned and perpetrated from Twitter.
tim pool
But here you are, getting out 99% of your ideas.
So as long as we try to maintain, you know, navigating the minefields in this battlefield, we can make sure that 99% of the ideas are still able to persist.
And then, for the ones where we are actually dealing with major, you know, curtailment, we can always set up our own independent website and make sure people like you get your, you know, ideas out to the best of your ability.
People know where to find you at War Room.
steve bannon
No, no, but I got that, and we should, and that's smart, and you gotta strategically do it, but we shouldn't have these social media oligarchs who, on the public's money, remember, Zuckerberg had no cash.
He was living in a dorm in Harvard.
tim pool
Well, didn't Peter Thiel give him money?
steve bannon
He put $500,000.
My point is, and Peter Thiel's money wasn't Peter Thiel.
Peter Thiel was institutional money.
All of those guys, when they write you a check, it's a cop's, fireman, nurse's, teacher's money.
It's a pension fund's money.
It's called institutional investing.
They take a 1% or 2% management fee and 20% of the ups, that's how they make money, off their fee structure.
That's the carried interest that's not taxed as ordinary income.
We agree on all that.
Yes, but they shouldn't have the ability.
Tim Pool should never have to walk into this show, ever, and think about, is there a topic I can't discuss?
Let's take Alex Jones for a second.
You know, Alex Jones, people say this, that, the other thing.
I just take one topic.
If you go back and look at what Alex Jones has said about transhumanism, Alex Jones has been ahead of the curve of this thing for what, for 10 years?
Easily.
Alex Jones was talking about the topics we talked about tonight, 10 years ago, which when the history of this age is written,
people are going to focus, I think, on that, right? And see who the first guys that call it out.
And one of them was Alex Jones, and Alex Jones is banned everywhere. Maybe for other
activities. My point is that some of his stuff has been absolutely groundbreaking, okay?
For all the madness they say Alex Jones has, you go back and look at the signal, not the noise.
The signal has been very strong on some of the most important issues facing our world today, right?
I mean, your stuff's amazing, and people get into it.
It's out there and it's not being covered.
To think that the mainstream media, and I talk about it, that they don't have major stories and connect dots, not just say, oh, you know, Elon Musk, Neuralink, and he says, oh yeah, we gotta have babies at the same time, but are connecting dots of these technologies.
tim pool
We should get, let's talk about this in the member segment, because there's a lot more I want to say, but I have a lot of super chats, and I think we can do a big conversation with this.
We're going to have a really serious strategy discussion in the member segment that you
should check out.
Not to cut you off or anything, but there's a lot of really good super chats.
Check us out.
We've got a really, really good one.
And you know, I may not agree with the initial sentiment here because I've been ragging on
Alec Baldwin a lot.
I think...
steve bannon
Alec Baldwin.
tim pool
Yeah, he shot that woman, you know, and he might get away with it, but I want to read
Brian Kohersalman says, I stand behind Alec Baldwin 100%.
Standing in front of him is too dangerous.
steve bannon
Womp womp.
tim pool
All right, all right, all right.
Block Viking says, Steve, what do you have to say to a former Bernie bro who doesn't agree with the corporatisms the GOP's historically embraced?
And DNC seems to have picked up.
Either way, let's go Brandon.
steve bannon
The populist movement inside the Trump movement, who have taken over the Republican Party, is anti-corporate.
We are verily anti-corporate.
Here's the thing, you're getting played.
Remember, the most progressive president in history, President Obama, during his watch was the greatest concentration of wealth in the nation's history because of the economic decisions made.
The Democratic Party is 100% bought and paid for and owned by corporatists and Wall Street.
All of you progressives out there, you're being played.
OK, and that's why a big part of this movement going forward is former Bernie bros.
Look, working class Hispanics, African-American men and Bernie bros are the future of this populist movement combined with us.
And the reason is we got to break away from the corporations.
The corporations don't have your best intentions in mind.
Look, they're the oligarchs.
They're the ones deplatforming.
I keep telling the Republican Party guys and I rub their nose in it.
I said, you created this monster.
Your tax cuts and your deregulation and now you're sitting there whining that they de-platform you?
You and your policies created it and that's why and look I admit I'm on a I'm on this on the when you look at the spectrum or the range of alternatives I'm a little bit on the hardcore part of this but that's why I say in Silicon Valley particularly in social media I'm for total digital and data sovereignty.
OK, that's why I think things like FJB and other these coins have to be looked at.
Here's the reason.
They forced you to do it.
They've destroyed the U.S.
dollar.
They have a printing machine up there in Capitol Hill right now talking about seven trillion dollars.
You owe it to yourself to look at your own digital sovereignty, your own data sovereignty, your own ability to participate in not just in cryptocurrencies, but in other either stores of value.
OK?
You owe it to yourself today, because they're not going to do it.
I would tell the Bernie bro, we are the anti-corporate part of this.
We're a workers-based, working-class party.
And that's why you see in the Rio Grande Valley, they're supporting Trump.
Trump was the weapon.
Trump was the armor-piercing shell that went through this.
Right. And he gave him blunt force trauma. Why do you think they hate him? He was part he's a
billionaire. He was part of that whole system. He'll tell you that they hate him with a pathological
hate. That's almost the reason is because he's the armor piercing shell. Let me ask you.
tim pool
Yeah. Paul Perry wants to know if you're going to be involved in the next Trump administration,
you know, after he runs or when he's running. Well, let me say it this way.
steve bannon
In 2020, the war room, we are dedicated and maniacally focused on building the Trump movement.
And when we say the Trump movement, taking over school boards, having people become election officials, taking over the Republican Party, with populists, with people just going as precinct committeemen.
We are a firm, I think the biggest supporter of the president.
To the degree that we participate in the campaign like we did in 2016, I don't know, time will tell.
My biggest focus right now, The mantra we have right now is 100 seats, 100 years.
We can win 100 seats in 2022 and govern this nation for 100 years through the House of Representatives, OK?
tim pool
But are the Republicans going to do anything?
steve bannon
This is why, by the way, the Republican Party since 1968 has won more elections than it's lost, and in the process lost the country.
You need to have new people, new blood, and new policies.
And I think you're starting to see those people come up.
It's always going to be a fight, and they co-opted the Tea Party movement.
It's our fight every day to fight this and to focus on it.
But no, I think President Trump, not only is he going to run, I think he's going to win, and I think he's going to win in a big landslide.
To the degree that I can ever be of assistance, I will always be of assistance.
But right now, The war room is where we do it.
tim pool
I want to make a point to say, I see a lot of people are signing up as YouTube members, but that may be a mistake.
If you want to watch the members segment, it's at TimCast.com.
Go to TimCast.com.
Otherwise, you're just as a member supporting the channel, which is greatly appreciated for sure.
But again, TimCast.com, that's where we're going to have the bigger discussions and everything like that.
But all the support's greatly appreciated if I'm making a mistake.
I just see a lot of people have just signed up.
So, all right, let's see.
Civilized Age Customs says, if corporations replace workers with AI, eventually there won't be people with income to buy their goods and services.
They go out of business.
So, is that going to have an impact on this?
steve bannon
They won't slow down because of that problem, right?
They're looking to, first off, Cut their cost by doing as much of this.
You see this everywhere.
I mean, particularly in China, they're trying to use as much artificial intelligence and robotics as possible to take out labor costs.
So their first issue will be to get rid of labor costs.
I think they'll deal with the second part.
It's a great point.
And like I said, a lot of this is to be thought through, but right now we can tell you, when you look at the party of Davos, the fourth industrial revolution, when they talk about the fourth industrial revolution, how much humanity is in that?
When you look at the fourth industrial revolution and what they're talking about, that's going to participate.
The human element of that is looked at as inefficient, right?
And so they try to extract that.
So no, it's a great point.
It's got to be thought through, but they're going to look at the cost side first.
tim pool
Do you think universal basic income is part of this, too?
steve bannon
I think that universal basic income is part of the fourth industrial revolution, because I think they're going to say, hey, you're going to be out of a job, but we've got to give you X amount of cash, right?
But that's not what people want.
People just want to be paid some stipend, some tip money.
That's where you go from slavery to indentured servitude.
No, you're not indentured servant.
You're not going to live off the tips and the scraps.
of the elites of this world.
They're going to pay Universal Base, they're going to pay a couple thousand bucks a month so you can play video games and just vegetate?
No.
tim pool
Yes.
steve bannon
You're a human being.
You're a temple of the Holy Spirit.
Act like it, okay?
We're not going to do this.
tim pool
I gotta issue a correction because they say you will own nothing and you will be happy and that's incorrect.
That's incorrect.
You will own many things.
Like the forest leather boots of agility.
Or the mythical tiara of the dragon queen.
You will own a little digital home in your virtual space.
ian crossland
You will have a license to those things.
tim pool
That's true.
ian crossland
Yeah, whoa!
steve bannon
Whoa!
Whoa!
ian crossland
Shut your power off.
steve bannon
You're gonna have your little- That's why you have a wingman.
tim pool
You're gonna have your little server space where you buy your little house, and you're gonna show all your friends your digital little house you built in Fallout 3, and everyone can- or Fallout 76, and they can come hang out there and be like, wow!
steve bannon
But, you know, that's one of the things about this life.
That's why, if you notice today, people's aspirations are getting tinier and tinier and tinier and tinier.
tim pool
Van life.
steve bannon
Van life.
Tinier and tinier and tinier.
Go back and look at the folks that built this nation, right?
They came from everywhere.
Look at what they accomplished with so little to back them up.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
I mean, for me.
And I'm talking working class people that came and built this country.
Unbelievable.
A vision.
tim pool
I view myself as having a very similar vision, you know, wanting to build an empire and, you know, find the secrets to immortality and eventually create a singularity in which I will be... I'm kidding.
luke rudkowski
Hey there!
You got me thinking here.
tim pool
Where's my anarchist?
steve bannon
Bring my anarchist in.
tim pool
No, Luke and I had a joke like, what, almost 10 years ago that I was like, you know... You're going to be the corporatist that's going to be confronting you outside of your own building and being like, what the hell are you doing?
steve bannon
Luke, I got your placard in the SUV.
You can start progressing now.
tim pool
I'll be 50 walking out of a press conference or like flying to Bilderberg and then Luke will run up and be like, Tim, you know, you were at a meeting and yelling, get out of here, Luke!
steve bannon
But they're going to try to co-opt you.
I don't think so.
100% they will.
What are you talking about?
The way the system does it.
tim pool
But how does how it was some kind of knock on my door and be like I am with Davos eventually eventually somebody say
steve bannon
hey I gotta meet I gotta meet Tim pool and then you meet Tim
pool and said man if you if you had a hundred million Bucks in back you you go you do this. That's that's a it's
co-op See, but they call that's I'm not saying you're gonna take
it, but I'll take to you're getting at that scale That now people notice you're
Everybody talks about the Tim Pool show.
Everybody on the right, everybody I know, Posobic, Navarro, everybody, Cortez.
Did you see Tim Pool last night?
I gotta tell you, my CFO, she won't let me mention her name.
She's fantastic.
She's a Tim Pool addict.
In fact, she flew back from our other office to be here tonight.
And she's as right-wing as you can get.
Somebody's gonna come to you eventually and say, hey, look, With $200 million, you could expand, you could get off YouTube.
tim pool
No, I couldn't.
I literally couldn't.
I've had people offer me money, but it's never been like, hi, I'm an institutional investor with a million dollars.
I've had people be like, a couple hundred grand, what would that do for you?
And the answer is nothing.
The issue is not money for us.
steve bannon
But a couple hundred million dollars could change your life.
It can make you grow much, much quicker.
Maybe it doesn't, but I'm saying you're going to get, they're going to try to come and co-opt you.
And the first thing I say, you know what?
You know, Luke is great, but you know, Luke is out there sometimes and maybe Luke ought to be in the back and writing.
This is the way they do it.
They'll try to co-opt you.
They'll try to take the edge off.
They don't like the edge.
tim pool
I don't see it happening through investments.
I think it's, it's more of a, I'll put it this way, there's literally zero, there is no money amount that could make this better.
But I will tell you, we've got two 501c3 nonprofits, one for creating decentralized tech to make people uncensorable, and the other is to fact check news organizations as well as our own outlet and the fact checkers themselves.
So we're going to be going to people and being like, would you like to donate to our 501c3 tax deductible and stuff like that.
That's a potential avenue where they might want to put money in, but that's a separate entity outright from whatever it is we're doing here.
So they can certainly get involved with the nonprofit and help build technology, I guess.
But if someone came to me and said $200 million right now, and we would buy Axe or we would do this, I'd be like, I literally have no idea what to do with that money.
And it's not going to change anything we do.
We've gone through project pitches, and I'm like, the problem is not money for us.
Granted, I'm not trying to act like we have $200 million or anything like that.
It's just that finding driven, passionate, talented people is the challenge.
Money doesn't solve that.
It doesn't.
I've been through it.
It doesn't solve it.
You just gotta build it up slowly over time, rough around the edges, and you slowly get something like we're in now.
You notice the lights around the edge of the room?
We've gotten rid of studio lights.
We've done a new thing with LED strips.
It's just, you know, people come to me and they ask me, how did you build all this all up?
And I'm just like, one step at a time.
It's not like this thing where we sat down and did all this crazy research and funded R&D.
It was literally like, hey, you know what I noticed?
Our lighting sucks.
And then we had one guy be like, you ever see these LED strips?
And I was like, look at that!
And that's how it happens.
If someone came in and said, here's $200 million, have a good time, I'd be like, that literally won't get us anything we can need.
I mean, I suppose I could buy a skyscraper or something, like a big building.
steve bannon
Go buy a cable TV channel.
tim pool
Why would I want a cable TV channel?
What am I going to do with that?
steve bannon
Because you get off YouTube.
Then you can talk about anything you want.
Right now, you can't talk about anything you want.
tim pool
You can't talk about anything you want on these cable channels.
steve bannon
Sure you can.
You can talk about anything you want.
tim pool
But well, let's do this.
We're going to go to TimCast.com, member segment, and we're going to... I'm going to come and tell you $200 million we're going to test him.
steve bannon
Well, that's going to be your TV channel.
No, no, no.
We're going to test Tim.
tim pool
I'll tell you this.
steve bannon
I've been there with somebody who's going to come to you one day.
OK, somebody because of the success of this and the impact his head, somebody is going to come to you with that size check.
tim pool
I don't think so.
steve bannon
That's just that size check.
So when this happens, right?
That's 7 December 2021.
Somebody will come with you to you and there's going to be there's going to be hooks on it.
The hooks are going to be, hey, you know, it's kind of edgy.
You know, can we do this?
Can we talk more about this?
But that's the that's the Faustian bargain you make with capital.
tim pool
I just, you know, I don't think it's going to happen.
I think any one of these institutional investors who have done a psych profile on me based on the things I've said, they're going to be like, that guy's too risky.
Don't go near him.
steve bannon
You're not risky as a businessman, though.
You've built a great business.
You actually know how to mitigate risk.
Remember, the thing about entrepreneurs that people want to know is not are they risk takers.
You know you have the energy driving forward, the motive force, but do you know intuitively how to mitigate your risk?
tim pool
Let's jump to the TimCast.com member segment.
So everybody who's watching, go to TimCast.com, sign up.
We're going to immediately just jumpstart into this talk about censorship, co-opting, the deep state, all this stuff.
I've got a lot to say, but I don't want to run too late.
I want to make sure we get this up for you.
So again, TimCast.com, sign up now.
And you can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
Smash the like button, subscribe to the channel.
You can follow me at TimCast.
Steve, where can people find you?
steve bannon
Go to warroom.org.
We're on live every day from 10 to noon, Eastern Time, and then at 5 to 6.
And you can go to warroom.
You download the podcast.
We've got show notes, everything.
And I'm on Getter.
So you can go to Getter under Steve Bannon at Getter.
So just go there.
That's the one site I've got.
And we've got the War Room over there.
So Getter or go to warroom.org.
You can see every day.
tim pool
Right on.
steve bannon
Or look at MSNBC, because every day they're taking a shot at me.
tim pool
Did you see that photo from the War Room, your show, where they announced what was going on with you and the January 6th, right behind you?
luke rudkowski
Also, Tim, don't forget, I'm here waiting to confront you any moment, any time.
But that's a separate story.
Also, a lot of people forget I have my own media organization where I have confronted a lot of the globalists.
And to find out about that, plus a lot more, sign up on my email list.
Enoughofcensorship.com.
Enoughofcensorship.com.
That's the one way that I can't be censored.
And of course, I have a YouTube channel.
We are change on YouTube.
We are change.
Hope to see some of you guys there.
ian crossland
Love you guys so much.
Thank you for coming.
Steve, always a pleasure, my man.
steve bannon
Love being here with you guys.
ian crossland
It's good to see you again.
Lydia, thank you so much.
steve bannon
Lydia, thanks for setting us up.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm always happy to have Steve.
We really enjoy his presence.
He's very wise, very well-rounded.
So I was instructed to ask you if you've ever heard of the term Kali Yuga.
Are you familiar with this term?
steve bannon
Yeah, sure.
We're in the Kali Yuga.
ian crossland
That's what Rogan was saying.
lydia smith
Explain this.
We're in the Kali Yuga.
tim pool
Well, why don't we talk about that later?
lydia smith
All right, we're going to have to hold on to it.
steve bannon
Okay, I just had to... Did Joe Rogan mention the Kali Yuga?
lydia smith
He did, yeah.
ian crossland
A couple weeks ago on the show.
unidentified
No, no, no.
steve bannon
We're in the Kali Yuga right now.
tim pool
Well, if you want to know what that is, you're going to have to go to TimCast.com, be a member.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, I know.
You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patchlets.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
Thanks for hanging out again for the 80 billionth time.
We'll see you over at TimCast.com.
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