Nov. 16, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| I believe the deliberations will start tomorrow and boy was today insane. | ||
| Before I tell you how insane it was, I must point out, for those that are watching the live show, we are here in our mobile studio. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We are on site in Austin. | ||
| We have a crazy show tomorrow with the most people we've ever had on a show because we're insane, and it's gonna be a cacophony of crazy crackpot nonsense from a lot of awesome people, so this is gonna be awesome with us down in Austin, and we're planning on doing more trips like this. | ||
| So that being said, let's carry on with, you know, now you understand why we're in the mobile studio. | ||
| Let me just tell you, my friends. | ||
| During the trial today, the closing arguments, The prosecutor picked up the AR-15. | ||
| I believe, actually, I think it's an MP5. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| It's an AR-15 style rifle, they call it. | ||
| Chambered in .223. | ||
| Points it at the jury with his finger on the trigger. | ||
| Aims. | ||
| I couldn't believe it. | ||
| I actually believe the prosecutor should be criminally charged, and I'm not exaggerating. | ||
| This is deeply irresponsible. | ||
| We just had the Alec Baldwin story come out, and the prosecutor points a rifle at the jury. | ||
| Now, I'm gonna stop right there and say, you know what? | ||
| Personally, I can't believe it. | ||
| I do not believe it. | ||
| I've seen the pictures of him pointing the rifle, but we can't see the jury because the jury, their identity is protected. | ||
| But we've got more than one source saying he pointed the rifle at the jury. | ||
| Finger on the trigger! | ||
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Oh, jeez. | |
| We gotta talk about what went down in these closing arguments, because the prosecution was lying through their teeth. | ||
| Now, I'll be the first to admit, I'm biased for the defense, and there are some things about what they've said that I've questioned why I should believe them. | ||
| I mean that legitimately. | ||
| But I think the videos speak for itself, and you know what? | ||
| I don't need to speculate. | ||
| We've got Drew Hernandez sitting right here. | ||
| Thanks for having me, Tim. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| You were actually a witness in the trial. | ||
| A defense witness. | ||
| You were there on the ground. | ||
| You were a journalist filming it. | ||
| They tried to smear you on the stand. | ||
| Then they used you as some veteran reporter. | ||
| Then they tried smearing you again. | ||
| So people that were paying attention today, it's pretty shocking. | ||
| I mean, I'm watching this live on TV and I'm just like... | ||
| So in the closing arguments with Binger, he tried to discredit me during my eyewitness testimony, under oath, by the way, under oath, right? | ||
| This was a couple days ago. | ||
| But in his closing argument today, he called me a veteran of covering protests, right? | ||
| But then the other prosecutor, towards the end of the closing argument, tried to discredit me again for hiring the specific lawyer that I hired for myself. | ||
| So I truly do wonder if the jury is paying attention to this stuff Because, I mean, he really is insulting their intellect. | ||
| He really is insulting their own ability to choose for themselves. | ||
| Because when I was there, I want to say this real quick before we continue, so everybody knows. | ||
| The reason why I was there was not to share my opinion. | ||
| I was not some kind of expert to just speak on the video evidence or anything like that. | ||
| I was an eyewitness to what happened, to what I saw, while at the same time, I had body cam footage to corroborate everything that I said. | ||
| So, just for the record, because the world is watching, they've been watching on Tucker, they've been watching everywhere, my bias was the truth and what I saw that night. | ||
| I was not there to give any kind of political opinion. | ||
| That's what I was doing. | ||
| This is what we need to get into, too, because when you tell the truth, they say you're biased and right-wing. | ||
| Absolutely, because the truth doesn't serve their narrative. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| All right, we'll get into all that stuff. | ||
| We got the crew here. | ||
| We got Luke and Ian. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, first of all, Texas is awesome. | ||
| I love it here. | ||
| Second of all, welcome everyone to the RV life. | ||
| I've been doing this for like a year and a half. | ||
| I have my studio in my RV. | ||
| I love it in there. | ||
| And thanks so much for having me. | ||
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| The one I'm wearing right now says, FYI, the government is way deadlier Hey, I can corroborate what you're saying, man. | ||
| history and what democide actually means. I think that is an accurate statement and | ||
| you could purchase this t-shirt by going to thebestpoliticalshirts.com. | ||
| That is my website. | ||
| And it does smell like a little bit of a DMT and graphene here. I think that's because | ||
| Ian's sitting right next to me. We're so close to each other. Yeah, we are very close. This | ||
| is the closest we've ever worked together. Hey, I can corroborate what you're saying, | ||
| man. Texas is the bomb. It's fresh air, clean, dry. | ||
| I love the heat. | ||
| I love the cool. | ||
| And the studio looks great, Tim. | ||
| You look good. | ||
| You got nice pink on your skin there. | ||
| And I see you got a guitar hanging out next to you. | ||
| I'm very excited to get moving. | ||
| We're still doing some tech behind the scenes to get everything smoothed out. | ||
| We did some trial runs, but you have to, at a certain point, a trial run doesn't do enough, because, you know, then we add a bunch more people, and then there's levels, we gotta figure out, you know, some people are quieter than others, some people are louder, Luke just screams all the time. | ||
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What?! | |
| No, I never do that! | ||
| Welcome back! | ||
| We also, we also, uh, we got lightweight cameras, so they can be more easily mounted, but they're lower quality, so I think we can find a happier medium, an upgrade, and probably do a little bit better, but... Right now we're at 720. | ||
| Yeah, we're streaming in 720 and the cameras themselves don't display all that well in low light. | ||
| So the bigger cameras with better sensors are too heavy for the wall mounts. | ||
| Because we're actually in a really small space, we need to wall mount the cameras. | ||
| But hey, look, it's working and we're here and we are streaming. | ||
| So let's get started before we do. | ||
| Before that, I want to remind everyone that Lydia is right behind me. | ||
| I'm perched behind Ian. | ||
| You can kind of see me in Ian's shot. | ||
| So thank you guys for joining us as we're being awesome in Austin. | ||
| And you can see the microwave. | ||
| You can. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| Right behind me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can actually see the faucet. | ||
| You can. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I'm sitting in the kitchen where a woman belongs. | ||
| Why is the only woman in the kitchen? | ||
| I just want to point out real quick, too. | ||
| So this is we're in a big like 40 foot RV. | ||
| We were looking at like tour buses and trails and really expensive stuff that I'm like, man, I don't know if we can afford something like that. | ||
| And they wouldn't work because they're actually not big enough. | ||
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| Cozy! | ||
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| Let's go right into the first story. | ||
| This is it right here. | ||
| It's from the Western Journal. | ||
| The story is, Rittenhouse prosecutor violates gun safety, points AR-15 with finger-on-trigger at court full of people. | ||
| Why is this important? | ||
| The prosecution was actually arguing earlier on that there was a charge, potentially for Kyle Rittenhouse, because they claimed he aimed his weapon at people, which is like negligent disregard for the safety of others or something like that. | ||
| Pointing a weapon at people was a criminal offense, they argued. | ||
| Now here's something funny. | ||
| The prosecutor does this. | ||
| I don't even know if we can show you the footage of the photo of it. | ||
| And there's multiple photos because YouTube might actually give us a strike for showing him pointing a rifle at people. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| We're going to do it anyway because this is the prosecutor. | ||
| And if YouTube doesn't even allow us to show the prosecutor aiming a rifle finger on the trigger at a jury. | ||
| Then we're in a whole world of hurt with censorship. | ||
| So here it is. | ||
| Right here on the front of the screen. | ||
| Matt Walsh says, Kenosha DA pointed a gun at the jury with his finger on the trigger. | ||
| There's the image. | ||
| Let me blow it up. | ||
| Here's a bigger one for you. | ||
| Now this is from behind. | ||
| This is from one of the streams where you can see the prosecutor in the Kyle Rittenhouse case aiming a rifle at people. | ||
| Now hold on. | ||
| These photos don't actually show you who he's pointing at. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they can't show the jury. | ||
| The jury's identity is kept secret. | ||
| They mute the audio when they're talking with the jury. | ||
| They send the jury in and out. | ||
| And I'll even point out, I don't believe it. | ||
| I'm biased. | ||
| I cannot believe it that he actually pointed the rifle finger on the trigger. | ||
| And I just got to say a couple more things. | ||
| Here it is, this finger on the trigger. | ||
| I believe, I think I have a bigger photo here. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Finger on the trigger. | ||
| Now there's no magazine. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| There can be a round in the chamber and someone could easily put it in. | ||
| But I just want to stress this point. | ||
| People like to talk about how NewsGuard is biased, it's Microsoft, it's Bill Gates. | ||
| So I'm going to show you right here. | ||
| Western Journal, according to NewsGuard, has an 82 out of 100. | ||
| The website mostly adheres to basic standards of credibility and transparency. | ||
| NewsGuard says this is real news and they say the prosecutor held an AR-15 rifle with his finger on the trigger and pointed it toward the jury. | ||
| That, this is definitive. Now Tim, I know you don't believe it, I do, because number one, | ||
| he's a government employee. Number two, he's chicken winging. | ||
| I remember the first time I held a rifle before, my elbows were all the way up. That's | ||
| not really the proper way to hold a rifle. You learn to kind of hold them down and not act like | ||
| you're doing the funky chicken. | ||
| So, I mean, obviously I think he was doing it for dramatic effect. | ||
| I mean, if I was sitting on the jury, we were talking about this. | ||
| You said you'd scream because you have a good point to that. | ||
| You want someone with a finger on the trigger. | ||
| Let me clarify. | ||
| I wouldn't scream like, I would yell, get down and I'd shove people to the floor. | ||
| There's a government agent holding a firearm with his finger on the trigger in your face that he hasn't checked properly before even picking up. | ||
| He didn't even do that. | ||
| He didn't check it. | ||
| Yeah, he did it. | ||
| He asked other people if they did. | ||
| This is Baldwin. | ||
| This is Alec Baldwin. | ||
| As soon as I see this, I was like, was Alec Baldwin consulting him? | ||
| That's the question that I asked on my Twitter account. | ||
| I have some personal experience with this guy. | ||
| So, I mean, my personal experience with him, he seemed totally unprepared for me when I went to go testify the other day. | ||
| And it just kind of seemed like he wasn't really prepared for what he was doing in this trial. | ||
| And I can't really speak for him, but looking at something like this, I mean, how could you take someone serious when they're talking about how you handle a firearm or the do's and don'ts when you're speaking to the jury when they display something like this in a courtroom? | ||
| I mean, I think he was trying to discredit me. | ||
| I think this discredits himself. | ||
| He had you, Drew Hernandez, reporter on the scene, on the stand as a fact witness, not as an expert witness, as someone who was like, I was there, I saw this, and he started questioning why you had a lawyer. | ||
| He started questioning whether you were biased, who you worked for now, not then. | ||
| I'm hoping the jury can see through what this guy has been doing because pointing a weapon at them, I think I understand why he did it. | ||
| He was hoping that they would feel fear and then be like, wow, is that what Kyle Rittenhouse did to people? | ||
| He should be in jail. | ||
| He should be in jail, not Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| Binger should be in jail. | ||
| Look, I think it's a misdemeanor charge to point a brainless weapon at somebody. | ||
| I don't see why he gets special privileges in a courtroom putting his finger on the trigger with a weapon he did not check. | ||
| You see all these leftists. | ||
| I shouldn't say leftists, because leftists like guns. | ||
| Establishment Democrats. | ||
| And they're going, to be fair, he did ask if it was unloaded. | ||
| That's all he did. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| That's not enough. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| There's a bad actor. | ||
| They don't like him. | ||
| He's a leftist. | ||
| And when they check the bolt, they pop in a 2-2-3 and say, you're good to go. | ||
| And then he aims it and bang! | ||
| Kills a juror. | ||
| That risk should not be present in any capacity. | ||
| A bunch of people, I asked this as soon as I saw it happen. | ||
| I said, why didn't they lock the bolt back? | ||
| Just lock it back so we know it's clear and it's not going to fight. | ||
| Dude, this is like a really bad video game. | ||
| Like, this guy, Alec Baldwin didn't check the magazine. | ||
| Or he didn't check the chamber. | ||
| And then like two weeks later, this guy didn't check the chamber. | ||
| And like you said, he seemed unprepared. | ||
| He seemed like a stoner that went to theater school. | ||
| Like he was getting really high a couple weeks ago. | ||
| Ian would know. | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| And now he's like had it out of his system for a while because he's got a big trial up ahead or maybe he's on like Zoloft or something or some crazy like slowing mechanism that, because the guy is like faded. | ||
| Now I want to point out it says that he pointed it toward the jury. | ||
| That's different than at the jury. | ||
| So maybe it's like above the jury, down the hallway, past the jury. | ||
| Well no, no, no. | ||
| The Western Journal is reporting that he pointed it directly at- No, no, no. | ||
| It says toward. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But come on, man, what does toward mean? | ||
| In their direction? | ||
| 30 degrees, cone around the target? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I think that's a fair point, but I also think regardless, it's still, like, if there's a group of people and you're not directly aiming at any one person, you're pointing it toward the group of people. | ||
| Dude, he didn't check the chain! | ||
| At least have a chamber flag. | ||
| I mean, that's even common sense as well. | ||
| But again, he works for the government and I would run away. | ||
| I want to point this out. | ||
| I want to point this out. | ||
| Here's what I tweeted. | ||
| I think anybody who knows guns knows these rules. | ||
| Treat a gun always as if it is loaded. | ||
| And here's his picture. | ||
| Never point it at something you don't intend to destroy. | ||
| Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire. | ||
| There's one I didn't include in this. | ||
| Always know where your target is and what is beyond it. | ||
| So let's make the argument he didn't actually point it at a jury with his finger on the trigger. | ||
| Those walls are not going to stop a rifle round. | ||
| And he has no idea who's behind those people or behind that wall or whatever. | ||
| I think this discredits everything he's saying about his arguments about guns, about bullets. | ||
| You know, the defense made a really, really good point in their closing arguments. | ||
| It was Richard, the defense, who said, I've been in trials. You know, the prosecution tries to | ||
| call full metal jacket as if it's a more threatening round as if it matters. He said, I've been in | ||
| trials where they say, you know, to the jury, he used hollow points. Those are designed to kill | ||
| people, whereas a full metal jacket would just go through them and they'd survive. And now with | ||
| covering us, they're arguing the opposite. | ||
| Hollow points wouldn't have gone through people and it wouldn't have been reckless. | ||
| And he says, regardless of that, the bullet is a bullet and making an argument about the kind of | ||
| bullet irrelevant. And here you have a guy who tries to act like he knows what he's talking | ||
| about. He doesn't know what he's talking about. You want to sing funny? I think it was Krauss, | ||
| the other eight, the prosecutor who said there's no such thing as a right or left handed gun. | ||
| It's amazing how they can just say things without knowing what they're talking about. | ||
| And the funny thing is, I guess you can't actually object to lies. | ||
| For real. | ||
| So, my understanding is the opponents can object in your closing arguments to matters of the court. | ||
| So there was a moment where they stated that the Zeminskys, it's like Kelly and some other guy, what's his name, Zach? | ||
| I don't remember his first name. | ||
| I think it's Zach. | ||
| He said they have a Fifth Amendment right, you know, why didn't they testify? | ||
| They objected to that, saying they don't have a Fifth Amendment right. | ||
| They could have called the woman who was convicted, but the dude, this is a really important point in the trial, Whether or not someone has a Fifth Amendment right is up to the prosecution. | ||
| Did you guys know that? | ||
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No. | |
| You think, like, I plead the Fifth? | ||
| No. | ||
| The prosecutor can say, then we grant you full immunity, start talking. | ||
| And if you don't, you're in contempt. | ||
| So when they say, Zeminsky could testify, the state, the defense was like, we can't call him. | ||
| He can plead the Fifth, but the state can grant immunity and get whatever testimony they want from him. | ||
| But they won't. | ||
| And the judge would not sustain the objection? | ||
| He sort of sustained it. | ||
| He said, we'll just ask you to move on. | ||
| He didn't explain to the jury that the state controls the ability of pleading the fifth. | ||
| So now you have this guy who has no idea what he's talking about. | ||
| They have power over some of the witnesses. | ||
| They didn't execute the search warrant on Gage Grosskreutz. | ||
| And they control whether or not Zeminsky even testifies. | ||
| And here's the point. | ||
| This is why it's important. | ||
| Kyle Rittenhouse got the gun charge dismissed. | ||
| We'll talk about that in a second. | ||
| That's a huge victory. | ||
| But he stated, the prosecution stated, that he pointed the gun at the Zeminskys. | ||
| And the defense said, I don't see the Zeminskys here. | ||
| And the judge said, you didn't call them as witnesses to testify on the fact that a weapon was pointed at them. | ||
| There's no complaining witness. | ||
| If I can't see it happen, I can't instruct the jury that it did. | ||
| Very, very important points. | ||
| Hypothetically, if Kyle did use holopoints, let's just kind of play up the scenario, I mean, the scene would be so much more graphic than it already was. | ||
| And already, you saw the state prosecutor play extremely graphic videos, show extremely graphic images during his closing arguments, that I couldn't even look at. | ||
| Like, it sparked A very strong reaction to me. | ||
| So I do think when he was doing his kind of theatrics, putting his finger on the trigger, moving the rifle around, when he was showing the bicep, when he was showing the gore, when he was showing the blood, I think he was trying to evoke more of an emotional response rather than a logical one. | ||
| Because other than that, I can't really understand what he was really trying to do here. | ||
| Also, there's a meme video going around from the movie Heat with his image kind of imposed as the state prosecutor in action that is also going viral on the internet. | ||
| With him with the rifle? | ||
| Yes, with him and the rifle. | ||
| There's a lot of people memeing about it. | ||
| We can't show it. | ||
| Yeah, we can't. | ||
| I really wanted to. | ||
| Luke's like, look at this thing I tweeted! | ||
| And I was like, we gotta... | ||
| We can't put that on YouTube. | ||
| You know, here's a comment I want to make about the trial and the reason why you're seeing this prosecutor look really bad time after time, even the state's own witnesses, right? | ||
| Gage came out and literally admitted under oath he pointed his gun at Kyle first, right? | ||
| The reason why you're seeing this happen over and over and over again is because the truth is coming out. | ||
| It's coming out from the prosecution. | ||
| It's coming out through the defense as well. | ||
| And when you find yourself trying to suppress the truth or you find yourself trying to dance around the truth or Combat against the truth to try and like discredit it it's not gonna go well for you And that's why you see this happen over and over and over again in this trial and people are just kind of like What's going on with this guy? | ||
| What's what's going on here because it's like when you're trying to argue with the truth And you're trying to discredit it and make it look like it's not even relevant or true Are you just trying like take the jury away from that's what he was trying to do with me He's trying to take the jury away from what I was gonna testify take the jury Distract away ask me questions that would lead me down another path It doesn't go well for you. | ||
| And the reason why it doesn't go well for you is because it all comes out. | ||
| And when it comes out, people are going to know for themselves what really happened and that's what's happening. | ||
| This is a big victory in and of itself, that it's televised. | ||
| Because, you know, in a real system with just malicious malpractice of justice, it would have been behind the scenes, kangaroo court, one and done, no one would have seen it. | ||
| But we get to watch all the malfeasance. | ||
| I think that's a victory, whatever the outcome. | ||
| Imagine this. | ||
| Imagine if no videographers would have been there that night. | ||
| Imagine where we would be right now. | ||
| The narrative that's been spun. | ||
| The President of the United States literally used Kyle Rittenhouse as a poster child for white supremacy in his campaign. | ||
| One thing I don't think we hear enough is that after Rosenbaum was shot in .739 of a second. | ||
| He got hit. | ||
| He was shot at four times. | ||
| Richie McGinnis did not run with the crowd. | ||
| He didn't scream. | ||
| He didn't hit the ground. | ||
| Why? | ||
| He had no fear that Kyle Rittenhouse would cause him any harm. | ||
| Or I shouldn't say that. | ||
| His fear did not reach a level to where he thought he should flee at all. | ||
| Maybe he was like, there's some issue, but I genuinely believe... Richie ran up to Rosenbaum and acted like Kyle wasn't even there? | ||
| Because he knew, in my opinion, I haven't talked to him about it, he knew that Kyle wasn't a threat to him at all. | ||
| I think that's the most important point. | ||
| The second most important point. | ||
| In this trial, when they were watching a video, the judge walks over to the big screen TV and sits down and watches the video. | ||
| Kyle Rittenhouse walks up right behind the judge and leans in right over his left shoulder. | ||
| No bailiff, no handcuffs, no complaints, no one freaking out. | ||
| No one was threatened by this kid. | ||
| Not a single person, because they know he was only a threat to those attacking him. | ||
| And lastly... | ||
| All of you agree with me, and I know it. | ||
| If A.D.A. | ||
| Binger was on the ground in Kenosha during a riot and he saw Kyle Rittenhouse, he would run to him for safety. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well, let me tell you something. | ||
| When I was there that night, right? | ||
| And I testified under oath, so I feel comfortable saying it again, because it's true. | ||
| When I was there that night, the first time I saw Kyle that night, they were in front of a... They call it Car Source 2, right? | ||
| The second car dealership. | ||
| Right? | ||
| There were individuals on the roof. | ||
| They had rifles on the roof, right? | ||
| And one of them was outside on the ground as well. | ||
| And this was after the rioters were going head-to-head with the police, and the police were pushing them down Sheridan, pushing them, they were deploying rubber bullets. | ||
| They were rioting! | ||
| They were taking concrete slabs and destroying them on the floor and throwing them at the cops, taking fireworks, explosive devices, throwing them at the police vehicles. | ||
| Um, so as they were getting pushed back when they got to Car Source 2, these guys on the, you know, on the building had their rifles, um, the rioters came to them, they're like, you ain't the police! | ||
| You ain't the police, you ain't the cops, you ain't the- like, getting super confrontational, to the point where the rioters went behind Car Source 2, grabbed more rocks, more concrete slabs, and were throwing them at the individuals with rifles on the top of the building. | ||
| They brought a rock to a gunfight, okay? | ||
| So, the reason why this is important is the first time I saw Kyle was when he came outside of this car source 2 and attempted to de-escalate that situation. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| He had his hands, like, he was, you know, he was going, like, kind of like when you, uh, when you're saying, hey, like, calm down, calm down, like, like, what, what, instead of saying the word calm down, what do you do? | ||
| You use your hands. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what he was doing, and then the rioters dispersed, because they were getting super confrontational, like, you ain't the cops, you ain't the police, you ain't the police! | ||
| And then they dispersed. | ||
| See, that's the crazy thing. | ||
| I've been to a bunch of events. | ||
| We had, um... Who was it who tweeted today that white supremacists in Ferguson... Did you see that? | ||
| I can't remember who it was. | ||
| I don't want to say the wrong person, but, you know, someone tweeted... Did you see that, Drew? | ||
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| They were like, when we were marching in Ferguson, white supremacists were hiding by the hill where Michael Brown was shot, and they were shooting at us, and I'm like... | ||
| You know, I've been there, and nothing like that happened. | ||
| At least, nobody said it happened. | ||
| I didn't experience anything like that. | ||
| No one I know said anything like that, but not a single activist reported anything like that until today. | ||
| But the reason I bring that up is, I'm on the ground in Ferguson. | ||
| I watched the Oath Keepers. | ||
| I filmed the Oath Keepers up on top of the building, standing there with weapons. | ||
| Then, we had, it was a... I can't remember the guy's name. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| It's been a long time. | ||
| The group comes down, and they start marching down... | ||
| It wasn't, it wasn't Stewart. | ||
| They start walking down the road with rifles and people are yelling at him just like that, you ain't the police, you're not the cops. | ||
| And the dude, I can't remember his name, who's in the front, he's like, you know, a leader in the Oath Keepers. | ||
| He goes, we know, we know, we're just here for everyone's safety. | ||
| And they were like, then why aren't you here protecting us? | ||
| And he goes, we are. | ||
| And they're like, what are you, what? | ||
| And he's like, yeah, we want to make sure the police don't hurt any of you guys. | ||
| And they went, what? | ||
| We I was I watched him say he was like he's like we're here like the cops shouldn't hurt any guys you guys keep protesting do your thing and we want to make sure that everyone's safe and they were like what? | ||
| The thing about Kenosha was it wasn't a protest. | ||
| At no point was it a protest. | ||
| I mean, I was in Chicago the night Jacob Blake got shot, right? | ||
| And I was looking on Twitter, and the first thing I saw, literally one of the first reports I saw what was happening in Kenosha was the rioters were already taking brick, took a brick to a police officer's head, knocked him unconscious. | ||
| And then I started to see other reports, and I'm thinking to myself, how far is Kenosha? | ||
| Whoa, it's like an hour and a half, two hour drive. | ||
| It was like a $300 Uber, right? | ||
| I don't even think that's far. | ||
| I think it's like an hour from Chicago. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| It was far, and it was during the lockdown in Chicago at 11 p.m. | ||
| at night. | ||
| I don't even know how I got an Uber. | ||
| But I took it, went there, and right when I showed up, they already had dumpster trucks on fire, exploding. | ||
| They were looting. | ||
| Dumpster carts? | ||
| A dumpster truck. | ||
| A truck. | ||
| It's on my Twitter. | ||
| Anyone can go watch it right now. | ||
| Drew H. Live. | ||
| That's one of the first things... I certainly don't mean a full vehicle. | ||
| No, a full truck. | ||
| A dumpster truck on fire. | ||
| And the ones who brought rifles to the Kenosha riot first was actually the rioters. | ||
| I retweeted that today. | ||
| They were there night one and they were in a standoff with the police in the middle of the street and they had their rifles. | ||
| They were the ones who brought guns first. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| I watched that video where it was like a mattress store or something, where it was being burned down, you see the smoke billowing out of the building. | ||
| Do you see that video? | ||
| Which, I don't know, I have to look at it because there's so many burnt buildings in Kenosha. | ||
| It's where the old guy is running up and like trying to get people at his store, and then someone bashes him over the back of that with a rock and he just falls down and he's lying on the ground bleeding and they're all like laughing and hooting at him. | ||
| I have to look at that one, but that night was a mixture of arson, looting, vandalism, Total violence. | ||
| They burnt down multiple buildings, and that's why when you hear the mainstream media, this is why they'll come out and say, oh, you're just biased. | ||
| And they were chanting Black Lives Matter when they did it, okay? | ||
| It's all on film, and I posted it. | ||
| That's not bias, that's just the truth. | ||
| I was in San Jose when... It was that moment where the guy got hit in the back of the head with rocks during the Trump rally. | ||
| And I tweeted out it was Bernie Sanders supporters who did it. | ||
| There was that big moment where they were like, Bernie supporters, Bernie bros are violent, Bernie supporters are violent, and Bernie was like, you guys gotta dock it off. | ||
| And I tweeted like, yeah, those guys were Bernie supporters, and they were like, you're a liar and you're far right. | ||
| And I was like, but that's what happened. | ||
| And they were like, how do you know they were Bernie supporters? | ||
| They were wearing Bernie shirts! | ||
| What? | ||
| They were like, wearing Bernie, a couple of the people who were part of the mob had Bernie stickers and stuff on them. | ||
| And they were screaming and shoving people, and I'm like, That's just what, I don't know. | ||
| I didn't think it was that big of a deal to be like, oh yeah, this was the left that was engaged in this behavior. | ||
| At the time, I genuinely thought, because I've seen the Black Bloc tactics, they're proud of what they call the diversity of tactics. | ||
| I didn't understand why they would all of a sudden now deny the fact that they beat people all the time. | ||
| They were proud of it. | ||
| Luke, I mean, knows it. | ||
| Luke was there when I got attacked in New York. | ||
| And Luke pulls the guy's mask off. | ||
| Yeah, well, me and my friends made sure that, you know, we prevented further escalations and, and, you know, you can just see a lot of these actions unfold right before they unfold with how people are preparing for it. | ||
| But again, when we look at what happened last year during the summer, we're talking about over three There was a lot of tragedies out there. | ||
| There's a lot of responsibility out there that you could point to so many different people. | ||
| I would directly point at Big Tech social media. | ||
| accounts of this but the mainstream media picked this ... | ||
| particular case they highlighted it there's a lot ... | ||
| of tragedies out there there's a lot of responsibility out ... | ||
| there that you could point to so many different people I ... | ||
| would directly point at big tech social media I would ... | ||
| directly point at the mainstream media that was ... | ||
| censoring any opposing viewpoints promoting ... | ||
| obfuscating or even just sometimes making excuses for ... | ||
| violence and I think that was deliberate and I think we're ... | ||
| having that same kind of element being brought back now ... | ||
| that the National Guard is being deployed in Wisconsin ... | ||
| we have the NYPD Chicago PD LAPD Seattle PD Washington ... | ||
| PD all of these things are being brought back. | ||
| All mobilizing. | ||
| Yeah, 500 National Guard. | ||
| All mobilizing their police officers because they're prepared for something. | ||
| I wonder why. | ||
| Why are 500 National Guard called out to Kenosha tonight if this whole thing started as a peaceful protest? | ||
| This is why I'm so aggressive, Tim, because they're trying to lie. | ||
| They're trying to cover for these violent criminals that literally showed up to literally burn down buildings, threaten the community. | ||
| Kenosha was literally having a massive threat that night and this is so underplayed because they want to cover for these people and make them look like little saints that they're just Opposing racism. | ||
| They weren't. | ||
| What happened to Kenosha had nothing to do with Jacob Blake being shot. | ||
| And you're biased for talking about what you saw and what you filmed that we all plainly understood. | ||
| And I want to stress a very important point when they criticize your bias. | ||
| You actually testified that you had concerns about the guys with guns as well. | ||
| The prosecutor was like, you held up your press badge when they were pointing a laser pointer at you because you were concerned for your safety. | ||
| And you were like, well, I'm always concerned for my safety. | ||
| But he was like, but you were worried they might have a gun on you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You said yes to that, right? | ||
| This is why. | ||
| I was trying to explain context in that situation. | ||
| That situation I just explained to you where I saw Kyle come out and attempt to de-escalate a situation? | ||
| That was the same building that the rioters were taking rocks and throwing them at individuals with rifles on top of the building. | ||
| But I, listen, I was sitting there filming it. | ||
| So the reason why I said, of course, I'm in kind of concerned about my life because I don't want to be misidentified with these morons throwing rocks at people with guns. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| No, but I think the important point here is that I'm trying to make is there's two things. | ||
| One, I think it's fair to say you've you I can't speak for you, but I've been on the ground. | ||
| I absolutely fear the rioters more than I would fear militia members. | ||
| Militia members tend to have firearms training. | ||
| They tend to be more skittish about using force or weapons. | ||
| And this is true of the left militias as well. | ||
| When I would see the armed socialist groups, like the Socialist Rifle Association or whatever they call themselves, I would feel safer around them as well because they take it very, very seriously. | ||
| But that being said, when you testified, you did have some concerns about both sides. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He has the nerve to call you biased, but then accuse you of fearing both the rioters and the armed gunmen. | ||
| I'm like, How can the lawyer come to you and say, the prosecutor, I'm sorry, you're biased against those people! | ||
| And you are also scared about the guys with guns! | ||
| It's like, so which is it? | ||
| Who's he biased against? | ||
| If he's got concern for his safety across the board, it sounds like he's mostly concerned for himself, and not who's doing what, but that's it. | ||
| You film the rioters rioting, and say they're rioters, he literally called you biased for saying they were rioters. | ||
| He said, your footage seems slanted towards the rioters, and I responded and said, Yeah, because they're rioting in the footage, absolutely. | ||
| Like, it just, it doesn't make any sense and that's why I'm watching the trial and I'm like, dude, you, you're, what he's doing is he's insulting the intellect and the judgment ability of the jurors. | ||
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| Because you see this back and forth. | ||
| You know, you see this back and forth where, I'll use myself as an example. | ||
| Today, he literally praised me for being a veteran reporter, trying to add credibility to me when it fit his little narrative, and then at the end, They literally try to discredit me again at the end of their closing argument. | ||
| That just, to me, if I was a juror, that would insult me completely. | ||
| So you think I'm that dumb that I even pick up on it? | ||
| He did it on multiple occasions. | ||
| One of the biggest ones was him describing the activities of Rosenbaum and acted like it wasn't a big deal when he went over everything that he did. | ||
| I'll pull that up in a second. | ||
| I don't know if we can play that. | ||
| Including the N word. | ||
| Isn't that funny though? | ||
| Isn't it? | ||
| Like, listen, he's like, oh, he uses the N word. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| I want to play the video in a second. | ||
| I want to play the video in a second. | ||
| We'll get to it. | ||
| We'll get to it. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| Did you want to point out anything? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He contradicted himself when he was questioning you, Drew. | ||
| And then with his closing arguments, he literally said the opposite of what he was saying to you. | ||
| So that's a major point here. | ||
| And this video, I mean, it's just wild, man. | ||
| We're gonna play this video. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know if... Do we have desktop audio pulled up? | ||
| It's the second to last on the mixer board, just in case. | ||
| Because I don't know if we set up desktop audio for playback just yet. | ||
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I think we do. | |
| But let's play and we'll see what happens. | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
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He just happens to stumble into it. | |
| Okay, wait, wait, okay. | ||
| Alright, I'm gonna play this. | ||
| But I want to give you some context. | ||
| He just happens to stumble into it. | ||
| saying, Binger says that all Rosenbaum did the night of the shooting was... | ||
| Let me just play for you as he reads off this list. | ||
| When I heard this video, I screamed. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| I'm like in the vehicle when he said it. | ||
| Watching this live. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
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He just happens to stumble into it. | |
| So what does he do that night? | ||
| Oh, let me tell you all the awful things Joseph Rosenbaum did. | ||
| He tipped over a port-a-potty that had no one in it. | ||
| He swung a chain. | ||
| He lit a metal garbage dumpster on fire. | ||
| Oh, and there's this empty wooden flatbed trailer that they pulled out in the middle of the road, and they tipped it over to stop some bearcats, and they lit it on fire. | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| Right here, right here. | ||
| Oh, and he said some bad words. | ||
| He said the N-word. | ||
| Okay, listen, pause. | ||
| America, America, America, okay? | ||
| America, alright? | ||
| For all the woke supremacists out there, you got this white attorney playing down the use of the n-word being used by another white guy using the n-word at a so-called anti-racism gathering in Kenosha. | ||
| Does that make sense to any of you out there? | ||
| Does it to me? | ||
| Okay, so for quick context for those just tuning in, this is the prosecutor in the Kyle Rittenhouse case trying, I think, to downplay the actions of Joseph Rosenbaum, who was I gotta be very careful about this. | ||
| A person who committed some of the most serious atrocities against children, and I do believe that matters in this case and should have been relevant, because he just got out of jail, and that played a role in why he yelled, I don't care if I go back to jail. | ||
| I digress, we'll get to that later. | ||
| It seems like Binger, the prosecutor, is trying to downplay. | ||
| As if to say, he only did these things and then he got killed. | ||
| I gotta point out, He slowly escalates it. | ||
| It's like, dude, start with the worst thing and end with the lighter thing. | ||
| Start with like, well, he did participate in burning up a trailer in the middle of the street. | ||
| But then what was he really doing on his own? | ||
| He knocked over a port-a-potty. | ||
| Okay, it's bad, but there was no one in it. | ||
| No, he starts at the lightest and escalates to the point where I'm like, what?! ! | ||
| He's like, he knocked over a port-a-potty, and I'm like, that's pretty bad, but like, I've seen pranksters do that, as long as there's nobody in it. | ||
| Well, and he left out what happened, because he said, oh, he lit a metal dumpster on fire. | ||
| No, it was on fire, and he was attempting to push it into occupied police vehicles with human beings inside of them. | ||
| And there were people pushing dumpsters towards a gas station. | ||
| I want to be careful how I phrase that, because whether they were trying to, I can't read their minds. | ||
| Right, it was like down the road past the gas station. | ||
| They were moving in the direction of the gas station, and then the fire got put out. | ||
| But hold on, he goes from there, he's letting a dumpster on fire, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, okay, that's getting pretty dangerous. | ||
| What human can get away with that? | ||
| You can't get away with that stuff. | ||
| Do you remember when the judge When they were in pre-trial motions, he was like, we shouldn't be able to call them arsonists. | ||
| All he did was set a dumpster on fire and the judge goes, are you kidding me? | ||
| Arson? | ||
| That's arson! | ||
| But hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
| Then he says he was swinging a chain. | ||
| It's like, hold on, yo. | ||
| Last I checked, fires make more fires. | ||
| That's like really bad. | ||
| And swinging a chain? | ||
| You could kill somebody doing that! | ||
| So he's escalating and then he's like, oh. | ||
| And then he took a wooden trailer and flipped it over in the street and set it on fire to block the police, and I'm like, yo, that's like, really bad. | ||
| Like, that's blocking emergency services bad. | ||
| That's accidentally killing people bad. | ||
| And to top it all off, with the cherry on top, he's screaming the N-word over and over again? | ||
| Yo, it sounded to me like the prosecutor was trying to lose. | ||
| And so I tweeted this. | ||
| ADA Krause, the other prosecutor, did a much, much better job than Binger. | ||
| People got mad that I tweeted. | ||
| They're like, are you kidding? | ||
| He's flopping. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah. | ||
| I didn't say he was doing a good job. | ||
| I said he was doing better than Binger. | ||
| That guy would laugh at me. | ||
| He would laugh at me anytime I would say Antifa, rioter, arson, vandalism, and looting. | ||
| He would laugh at me and just shake his head like that. | ||
| And I'm like, what are you laughing at? | ||
| That's funny to you? | ||
| That's why I'm saying, the jury's seeing that stuff. | ||
| Because people know what happened in Kenosha, and when people are sitting there laughing at what happened to their town, they're not gonna have it. | ||
| There were people who were super chatting to us in response to your testimony. | ||
| So I guess, I don't know if it's true, I don't want to accuse Rikada of saying it, but people were saying on Rikada's stream, they were saying you were a bad witness. | ||
| And I think some of it has to do with you came off as adversarial with the prosecutor, right? | ||
| I think he came off as adversarial with me because I didn't come in with that mentality. | ||
| I came in, here's the thing, and people may not know this, is I submit my footage and I was willing to cooperate with both of them. | ||
| He did not have to approach me that way, but he chose to, because he wanted to make it seem like it was adversarial, but I kept stating over and over again, I'm willing to tell both sides the truth, and I'm here for the jury. | ||
| I personally, I'm not a lawyer, so I can only defer, I think we're kitted as a great stream, if you guys haven't been watching his stream and stuff, the commentary is absolutely fantastic, hearing all these lawyers tell you about what's right, what's wrong, and when you have, like, ten lawyers who are watching, they can point out all of the mistakes being made, It's great. | ||
| It's kind of unfair to the actual defense team because they don't have the privilege | ||
| of having 10 other lawyers advising them or whatever. | ||
| But anyway, it was a great stream. | ||
| But I will say I actually thought you I think he may have gotten you the prosecutor in that | ||
| regard. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| He knew that you were a fact witness on the ground and you were very good for the defense. | ||
| So we had to try and figure out a way to make it seem adversarial. | ||
| You being confident in what you are talking about. | ||
| He does this really annoying thing where he was like, um, who do you work for? | ||
| Don't, don't, aren't you being biased? | ||
| It's like a very annoying and condescending because he wants you to be like, Hey, hey, hey, look, this is what happened so that he can make it seem like you're not credible. | ||
| That being said, I thought one thing that you said was the most important bit of testimony that people shouldn't gloss over when you brought up that Kyle Rittenhouse came out and de-escalated the violence. | ||
| Because we can question the actions that night all day. | ||
| We can say, should Kyle have run? | ||
| Did he point the rifle? | ||
| They're trying to claim this video. | ||
| And we can have an argument over the facts surrounding Rosenbaum chasing him. | ||
| But when you brought up that you witnessed Kyle say, please, you know, I mean, I'm paraphrasing, I'm using a metaphor, like, when he came out trying to calm people down, that says to me there is no way you can argue intentional homicide. | ||
| Well, here's another point, and this is why I don't care about any of the lawyers that are doing their live streams critiquing me and any of that. | ||
| None of that means anything to me. | ||
| The reason why is because not only was I there to share my eyewitness testimony, I was there to submit more than 80 to 100 videos that corroborate every single thing that I said. | ||
| Everything that I said. | ||
| And I don't care who has them. | ||
| on planet earth right now other than those jurors and that's why I was there and I have faith in the jurors that they were going to listen to my testimony and they have all of those videos to take a look at what really happened at least on my part from my heart from my perspective in my own life my own conscience that's what that was my intention to be there for this case I was I was flabbergasted How often the prosecution lied. | ||
| Binger and Kraus, in their closing arguments, kept lying. | ||
| And some of it was just falsehoods, which could be accidental, but some of it was outright lies, completely contradicting what the judge said. | ||
| There is no duty to retreat. | ||
| Avoidance is not a category. | ||
| Maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| I was watching this, and I even checked on this. | ||
| I looked up to make sure. | ||
| There's four categories. | ||
| I don't know what the four categories are, but some states have a fifth, avoidance. | ||
| I've been reading Andrew Branca's Law of Self-Defense, because he's a self-defense expert. | ||
| But avoidance means, in certain places, you have a duty to retreat. | ||
| Not Wisconsin. | ||
| But they kept saying, he had a duty to retreat, he should have, he didn't exhaust all methods, he could have run, even though he did run. | ||
| But it was amazing to watch them just outright lie. | ||
| And I thought to myself, how is it that the prosecution, the state, is allowed to lie to the jury? | ||
| When the defense would object, this is the craziest thing, there was one point where Binger has the rifle, and he's explaining that he pointed it, you know, because he did this on more than one occasion, I guess, but he pointed it at the Zeminskys. | ||
| And then the defense objects. | ||
| He's facing the wrong direction. | ||
| And before the judge says anything, Binger goes, that's an argument. | ||
| And then the judge goes, yeah, that is an argument. | ||
| And I'm like, whoa, the arrogance of the prosecution. | ||
| I don't understand how they can admit CGI evidence, which they did. | ||
| Like, this is not a photograph. | ||
| They admitted computer generated imagery. | ||
| of the night in question and then claimed that Kyle Rittenhouse in a split second dropped a | ||
| fire extinguisher, took off his weapon, put the strap back on it and then aimed it with his left | ||
| hand with the chamber right next to his face so it would eject a cartridge into his face. | ||
| That's what the prosecution claimed. And the argument is, I guess the way the court works is, | ||
| well, the defense can just tell the jury that when it's their turn. | ||
| And I'm like, no way, man. | ||
| If you have a false statement of fact, I personally, maybe I'm wrong, because I don't understand why they do it this way, and there's probably a good reason, but I'd imagine a good judge would be like, make your arguments, but don't make up your facts. | ||
| There are left-handed weapons, and it is true that you were facing the wrong direction in your demonstration. | ||
| You can make an argument about intent, about what Kyle should have done, but he shouldn't be allowed to say there's no such thing as a left-handed gun. | ||
| Of course there are left-handed guns. | ||
| I have, um... Which one is it? | ||
| What's my Polish Makarov? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| It's a right-handed gun. | ||
| It is specifically only a right-handed weapon. | ||
| And there are left-handed weapons. | ||
| I know because I have a right-handed gun. | ||
| You literally, you can hold it in your left if you are left-handed, but it's uncomfortable and it's not shaped properly. | ||
| I just don't get it. | ||
| Maybe we should have a lawyer on to explain to me why prosecution has been allowed. | ||
| And maybe the real reason is because the defense didn't object. | ||
| But also, Binger, and I brought this up to you guys before the show, he makes statements. | ||
| You're supposed to be asking the witness questions, but he will say things like, it seems to me that he said that if you light a fire, that he's going to use his weapon. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| His question is, is that correct? | ||
| Before he makes a giant statement about what he believes is happening. | ||
| That to me is court malpractice. | ||
| I think the prosecutor is not supposed to make directed statements to the witnesses. | ||
| It's a trick. | ||
| And lead them. | ||
| It is, and it's lazy law practice. | ||
| There have been a few instances where the judge, there's been an objection, and like the defense said, that's a statement, and then the judge goes, ask a question. | ||
| That's common, they'll do that, but you're right, it is extremely lazy, but it's probably on the line, where it's like, so Ian, when you walked down the street, you really wanted to kick that dog, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's like, no, I just said you wanted to do it, then asked you to agree with me. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yes, the questions are, do you agree? | ||
| Do you agree? | ||
| Do you agree? | ||
| Not, not, and this is, I mean, it is so blatant at 1.16.39 or whatever in the, I wish we had the video pulled up. | ||
| He makes a long statement and they cut him off in the middle of it before he has a chance to say, is that, is that accurate? | ||
| What channel are you on? | ||
| This is a full video, prosecutors cross-examine, cross-examine Kyle Rittenhouse on YouTube. | ||
| 1.16.39 timestamp. | ||
| Binger just goes into a long statement. | ||
| And then they cut him off, and he's like, I'll withdraw the question. | ||
| They object to it, and then he says, I'll withdraw the question right after he just made a statement. | ||
| It's not a question. | ||
| But it's a good thing they objected, and that's the point of the process. | ||
| But even the defender was like, that's something to question. | ||
| The judge was like, yeah, you gotta take back your question. | ||
| That was the bad question. | ||
| It was like, dude, it was a statement. | ||
| This is what the prosecution's been doing. | ||
| They've been- That's what he did to me? | ||
| Yeah, that's what he did to you. | ||
| Their whole case is predicated upon emotional manipulation. | ||
| They claim Drew Hernandez is this veteran reporter who knows what he's talking about when it serves the current argument for this minute, and then later on at the end of the argument, they say he's biased, you can't believe him. | ||
| When he kept, like, he would use, and I know lawyers do this, but I think he just was unaware that I would actually pick up on it. | ||
| Like, he would say things like, so, this video you posted, um, that you made on, and he would continue, like, no, I didn't make anything. | ||
| Oh, and this was on video, he's like, oh, the video you recorded. | ||
| Yes, I recorded. | ||
| These words matter. | ||
| So these words matter because they could lead you down a path to get you to admit to something without even realizing it. | ||
| Because he was trying to, what he was doing was, you had two clips. | ||
| You had one moment captured on two different cameras, so you basically just put one and then the other, right? | ||
| Synced. | ||
| And he tried using it to argue it was manipulated videos. | ||
| He used the word splice. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's why when he was like, you made the video, he was trying to get you. | ||
| That's why I'm like, people need to realize that. | ||
| I think, I think you did a good job. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure there's some things people could criticize you for, but if you went up there, told the truth, you were yourself. | ||
| That's all that matters. | ||
| But he was, he tried to say, you made the video and you caught him on that because his line of questioning was, you spliced the video and you manipulate it. | ||
| Therefore, we should be allowed to use our manipulated video as well. | ||
| But that's why if you guys caught my response, my response was, there's full footage on the body cam and the phone, unedited. | ||
| I sent you all the raw and I sent you this synced video as well. | ||
| So the jury has all of it. | ||
| The other thing he said was, I loved this. | ||
| Because the night before you testified, I was like, Drew is not gonna take it from him, he's not gonna be manipulated, he's gonna know what he knows, he's gonna say what he said, because we've had you on the show, I know the kind of person you are. | ||
| And he said, you went down to Kenosha to film the things that were happening there, and you're like, the violent riots, yes. | ||
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| I was like, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, because they're trying to omit that. | ||
| To keep it from the jury. | ||
| And they need to know that this was not some peaceful environment. | ||
| They're trying to paint this picture that, you know, someone showed up to Kenosha on some random day and just decided to shoot somebody. | ||
| Or they're even trying to say someone showed up to Kenosha at a peaceful protest and decided to shoot somebody. | ||
| That's not true! | ||
| That's what's getting me. | ||
| At all! | ||
| From what I've seen, I can't visualize the violence. | ||
| Like, how many buildings do you think got burned out? | ||
| Ugh, I gotta be careful with how I answer these questions, but there were multiple. | ||
| A range, like, a hundred, a thousand, twenty? | ||
| A range between fifteen and a hundred? | ||
| Whether, like, between a hundred and five hundred? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I think it was single digits, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, Kenosha. | ||
| I would have to look at the footage, but there were multiple. | ||
| They're about single digits? | ||
| How many cars were burned out? | ||
| Oh man, they were smashing cars on camera. | ||
| They're just smashing all the windows and destroying... And like the car, that car store... Probably more than 50 on the first car dealership that night, yeah. | ||
| The car dealership was smashed out, but not burned out. | ||
| And I mean, that, this stuff is lost. | ||
| No, the first one, they burnt, they burnt all those cars down. | ||
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| They burned the whole thing. | ||
| The same thing happened in Ferguson. | ||
| I went, we went and filmed this and it was crazy. | ||
| It looked like Fallout 3. | ||
| They went to the dealerships and they poured, there's video of them carrying gas cans. | ||
| Dude, when I was in Ferguson, This was scary. | ||
| Not only were gunshots going off, but there was a point where we were driving down the road and we saw the people carrying the gas cans. | ||
| And we were like, they were yelling, and we were just like, keep driving, keep driving. | ||
| When you got rioters walking up with gas cans, guns, we were like, we're not gonna, we can't, we can't stop. | ||
| I don't, I don't remember if we got any footage of it. | ||
| We saw when we were like, this is where the danger level is too high, even for us, because they know we're reporters and that's where bad stuff goes down. | ||
| I got shot at on more than one occasion. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying, no one targeted me. | ||
| No one said, hey, look, it's simple and pull the trigger. | ||
| I was part of a group of journalists. | ||
| We're walking on the street. | ||
| Gunshots went off on more than one occasion. | ||
| I had to drop to the ground. | ||
| And it's not white supremacists doing this. | ||
| It was Black Lives Matter rioters who were shooting guns randomly at these events. | ||
| Do they not call them arsonists because they have to be convicted of arson before you can call someone an arsonist? | ||
| No, Ian, they're peaceful protesters creating harmonious chaos that, of course, works towards the political agenda of the nefarious global elite. | ||
| You know, that night, that first night in Kenosha, right in front of the courthouse to the right, there's like a dinosaur museum. | ||
| Antifa showed up, full black block. | ||
| And they were getting little black kids and they were they were like handing them things in order to burn down the museum and they broke the window and they were trying to burn down the building from inside the window. | ||
| This is what these people do. | ||
| Like they infiltrate some of these movements. | ||
| And they recruit certain people, they'll give them the shields, they'll give them equipment, they'll give them an umbrella, they'll give them something to do in order to commit some of their mass violence. | ||
| And a lot of people are like, well, is Antifa really organized? | ||
| Yeah, they are. | ||
| And sometimes they even do like literally on-the-job training with people that are just willing to commit crimes. | ||
| I want to talk about what this is really about. | ||
| The Kyle Rittenhouse case is about more than Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| It's about more than the riots. | ||
| This may be one of the most consequential cases of our lifetimes. | ||
| As the rioters traveled across the country last year, burning down buildings and smashing windows, with a reporting from Michael Tracy, some of the most important I've ever seen, where he actually went to these small towns you've never heard of and saw the damage from the riots. | ||
| They have defended these rioters. | ||
| They have protected people like Gage Grosskreutz when the prosecution instructed the detectives not to execute search warrants. | ||
| Take a look at this story from the Daily Caller. | ||
| The prosecutor in the Rittenhouse trial says, you lose the right to self-defense when you're the one who brought the gun. | ||
| A major component of this trial, this is not about Kyle Rittenhouse in the bigger picture. | ||
| It is about your right to keep and bear arms. | ||
| Now I will say, when you look at constitutional carry, gun rights have been winning. | ||
| But this is a major assault on the culture around it. | ||
| We can win in the courts, we can win in the legislature, but if they can set precedent that if you bear a gun, You are ALWAYS the provocateur, ALWAYS the instigator, and NEVER intended self-defense. | ||
| That's the argument being played here. | ||
| If the jury sides with the prosecution, you will start hearing attempts where they say, in the case of the State v. Rittenhouse, the jury found that, you know, if you're bringing a weapon to a fistfight, you are provoking, blah blah blah. | ||
| I don't... I'm probably getting this a bit wrong. | ||
| I'm not a lawyer, so maybe that context isn't correct. | ||
| Maybe the precedent has to be set from a judge or something like that as a question of law. | ||
| The point is, they're trying to make a cultural moment occur where Kyle Reynolds is guilty simply because he brought a gun. | ||
| Now, mind you, the question's been answered. | ||
| The judge... This was the most amazing moment. | ||
| I was screaming. | ||
| I was like, yes! | ||
| The judge said to the prosecution as a question of law, because that's what the judge deals with, The charge, count six, illegal possession of a deadly weapon by a person under 18. | ||
| He is exempt because he was 17. | ||
| He looks at the prosecution and said, can you prove the rifle he had was under 26 inches? | ||
| And Kraus goes, it was not under 26 inches. | ||
| And the judge goes, count six dismissed. | ||
| It was not an illegal weapon. | ||
| I think 16 inches is the correct length because if it's 15.9 it's 26 overall. | ||
| So barrel length is 16. | ||
| 26 overall, I believe. | ||
| Or it might be 32, I'm not sure. | ||
| The point is, the judge definitively said, dismissed. | ||
| The law is not that complicated in my opinion. | ||
| It says, If you are under 18 and in violation of these provisions, which state? | ||
| You're under 16 without a permit, you're under 14 without a guardian or whatever, or you're hunting without a certificate. | ||
| Okay, well Kyle Rittenhouse is not violating any of those statutes. | ||
| 17-year-olds are allowed to bear only rifles and shotguns. | ||
| Kyle Rittenhouse said he knew he couldn't have a handgun. | ||
| But I want to get back to the main point here that we need to make sure we're paying attention to. | ||
| If Kyle Rittenhouse loses, They have that argument. | ||
| They will use it. | ||
| It will become culture and law is meaningless in the face of culture. | ||
| I've pointed this out many times. | ||
| You guys all understand this. | ||
| There are laws like you can't put an apple pie on your window sill on Tuesday. | ||
| Those laws still exist. | ||
| They're archaic and no one will ever enforce them. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, it would be absurd because culturally, We don't do that anymore. | ||
| But the law's there, and they could get you. | ||
| Another problem? | ||
| Would a jury really convict you of an 1800s pie law or something like that? | ||
| Give you a fine? | ||
| I doubt they would. | ||
| But this is what's important. | ||
| If culture emerges, where in the media, in all of our institutions, if you have a gun, you are considered an instigator in any capacity, you will never be able to use a gun to defend yourself. | ||
| They will always convict you. | ||
| Really encourage people to watch the trial. | ||
| It's a blessing that we have this available, just to know, to see the smarminess of this guy and this little finger. | ||
| I mean, he looks like and acts like Little Finger. | ||
| It's crazy how much he's like Little Finger. | ||
| He does, yeah, it's true. | ||
| And Kyle, I mean, particularly Kyle's testimony, Because he's just like, uh, it was like his hometown, or like his dad lived there and it was like his city. | ||
| His grandma lives there, his dad lives there, he works there, his best friend's there, I think his cousin's there. | ||
| The CarMax is getting burnt down? | ||
| Is it CarMax or CarSource? | ||
| That's terrifying, man. | ||
| He's like a young American who was like, I need to defend my city. | ||
| It's really crazy how Ben and Jerry's lied. | ||
| This is the funniest thing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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| even ice cream lies. And we know Ben and Jerry's is full of garbage. But they tweeted, what what if a 17 year old, you | ||
| know, black person, care, a black kid carried a rifle across illegally across state lines and killed three white | ||
| people, as if what happened was a white person carried up and across state lines and killed three black people, which | ||
| it didn't have skin color did not matter when they were charging at that guy. I don't care if Kyle Rittenhouse is | ||
| white, black, Asian, male, female, five feet tall, six feet tall. What if | ||
| It's funny how they're like, this is really important for self-defense as well. | ||
| Cenk Uygur was like, so how would the right feel if a black teenager brought a rifle to a protest and then shot people and claimed self-defense? | ||
| And every two-way person was like, oh, we would defend him. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| You know what I really love? | ||
| When I was tweeting about 2A and the absolute rights, and people were like, I'd like to see you defend the Black Panthers having guns, Tim. | ||
| And I said something like, abso-effing-lutely, every Black Panther should be armed, they're allowed to walk down those streets, they're allowed to be in this country, going wherever they please, with whatever gun they want. | ||
| And then these socialists were like, based. | ||
| I'm like, do you think we don't want people to have the right to bear arms and defend themselves? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's for everybody. | ||
| It's for everybody. | ||
| That's an American citizen. | ||
| We have the Second Amendment here in the United States, whether left or right. | ||
| And it's like they've made it like it's all people. | ||
| But what's interesting is how this has been so spun. | ||
| If Kyle gets convicted, he will be the poster child for an active shooter. | ||
| And anytime there's some kind of active shooting, this is not an active shooting situation, but they're going to use it as that. | ||
| So now moving forward in the United States of America, whenever we do have some kind of situation like that, Kyle Rittenhouse, he will become some kind of poster child that's going to be used to attack the Second Amendment at the same time. | ||
| But this is what they do. | ||
| They'll take something that's a minority. | ||
| I mean, we have active shootings happen in the United States, right? | ||
| But it's not like this insane pandemic or crazy thing that's happening in the United States that's out of control. | ||
| For the most part, people are responsible gun owners, right? | ||
| But they do the same thing with COVID as well. | ||
| There's a minority of numbers, but they blasted across the entire society where everyone has to be on lockdown, even though there's a minority of people that could actually die from it. | ||
| They do this with everything. | ||
| They take the minority and they just spread it everywhere. | ||
| I want to address that. | ||
| I don't think, first of all, Let me just say, I want to say, I had COVID and I had it really, really bad. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Did you have it really, really bad? | ||
| Yeah, I survived. | ||
| Me and Ian had it really bad. | ||
| But I want to say this. | ||
| I got really sick. | ||
| Other people didn't get really sick. | ||
| Some people got sniffles. | ||
| And so this is why I'm like, I actually think COVID's bad and we want to take it seriously, but we can't do a one-size-fits-all policy. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| But I don't want to just get into COVID. | ||
| My main issue with it is, I don't think it's necessarily that the media and the establishment... I should say the establishment and the elites do this on purpose. | ||
| But for the bigger picture in the media, the reason why they highlight every fringe case, the reason why it seems like the apocalypse is happening with COVID is because the media finds the story and reports it, but they don't report the non-story. | ||
| So this is what happens with Antifa. | ||
| Antifa goes out and they punch someone in the face. | ||
| Is that national news? | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| This is not. | ||
| They do it 500 times. | ||
| Not a single instance is national news. | ||
| They riot across the country. | ||
| Some of it reaches national news. | ||
| Because it is low-level sustained terrorism, we don't hear about it all that much. | ||
| The mainstream media, first of all, the establishment, they're biased. | ||
| Kamala Harris actively fundraised for these people, so of course there's that. | ||
| And then there's the media component of local news outlets, for instance, that aren't as, you know, not always wrapped up in the manipulation. | ||
| Local news outlets do a good job, but they're not going to report on a guy getting punched. | ||
| Now what happens if one fringe far-right winger gets a gun and goes and commits an atrocity? | ||
| International headlines. | ||
| And rightly so. | ||
| I think rightly so. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| It's abhorrent. | ||
| We gotta stop these people before they can take, you know, carry this stuff out. | ||
| It's difficult to figure out how to do that, but everyone will hear about it. | ||
| And then, for those of us that are in the news and reading the stories, we know that Antifa does this. | ||
| Well it's not just little crimes I mean there's people burned alive there's people shot there was a police officer trying to stop looting that was literally shot point-blank on on live streams and it went viral on the internet but it wasn't really that prominently talked on the mainstream media but I but I think what's happening here is that Obviously this case is politically polarized obviously ... a lot of ways on this particular case and I think ... that's why there's so much attention on it there so much ... hype on it because I think the establishment wants to use ... this case as an example of you can't defend yourself if you ... are going on or you have a gun you get attacked. | ||
| I really want to be careful with the left and the right. | ||
| Leftists, socialists, love guns. | ||
| assertion that they're making which essentially will leave a ... | ||
| lot of people defenseless and I think that's why a lot of ... | ||
| people who are Pro second a are are you know by is this case ... | ||
| and obviously have something that weighs for them in this ... | ||
| matter for the left a lot of their agenda weighs on this ... | ||
| court decision so this is going to have a huge ramifications I ... | ||
| really want to be careful with the left and the right leftist ... | ||
| Socialist love guns for everybody to a stir everybody it. | ||
| It is younger, populist, socialist, lefty types. | ||
| They are for gun rights. | ||
| It is the establishment, liberal, democratic, neoliberal... Authoritarian for the most part. | ||
| They want to strip away your rights. | ||
| To go to Luke's point, I think you're right. | ||
| Real quick, I'm sorry, I gotta say one real quick thing on this. | ||
| I can't let this one slide. | ||
| The left loves guns until... The leftists love guns until they get the power, then they'll take your guns. | ||
| Yeah, I think to go to Luke's point is, I think they might even want to do this to discourage people from even wanting to buy a gun in the first place. | ||
| Oh, you want to buy a gun for self-defense? | ||
| Well, look what happened to Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| If Kyle gets convicted, right? | ||
| I'm speaking hypothetically. | ||
| Oh, you want to buy a gun for self-defense? | ||
| Well, look what happened to him. | ||
| If that happens to you, you're gonna end up in that position too. | ||
| So I think that could potentially discourage an entire generation from even wanting to own a firearm and literally uphold their Second Amendment. | ||
| Even without the verdict! | ||
| Look at the way that the mainstream media responded to this. | ||
| They called him a white supremacist, they called him an active shooter, they called him guilty. | ||
| Without even the trial beginning big ... tech social media censored people mainstream media ... organizations we should corporate media organization ... showed up at people's doors for donating $10 to him people ... who were in the police departments were fired for ... donating $25 for him so so already we're having him kind of. | ||
| Prosecuted in the eyes of big tech social media the corporate ... media which is going to discourage a lot of people ... already with this trial that happened with a lot of people's ... viewpoints we have to understand no matter what the ... jury decides here there's a bigger verdict that's going to ... be kind of decided by the general public here that ... absolutely ways and I think you could see that today by some of ... | ||
| He looks like he's reacting to a lot of the outside ... influences here that are trying to push for a particular ... outcome for this case so when this happens I mean this to me ... is just like the perfect divide-and-conquer agenda I ... think this is why we're getting so much play on it because ... there's so much weighing on this and I think a lot of the ... establishment are seeing this as an opportunity to ram ... through a lot of their absolutely crazy policies that ... would disarm people that would leave them defenseless. | ||
| And at the end of the day, I mean, I don't know if this is the perfect case to make a stand here, but this is a very offensive case that the establishment is making here. | ||
| I'm actually scared. | ||
| If Kyle Rittenhouse does get convicted. | ||
| This is not the story of an evil ideologue. | ||
| This is the story of a 17-year-old who said, I want to help everybody. | ||
| This is the story of a 17-year-old who went to Kenosha, where his father lives, where his grandmother lives, where he works, where his best friend lives, where he drives through every day and said, I will actively help even those who are rioting, who rendered aid to people and asked if they needed medical assistance, even though he's clearly not with them as an ideologue or a protester. | ||
| Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't there for the right, he wasn't there for the left, he was just there to help. | ||
| He didn't want fires, he didn't want destruction, and he didn't want those protesting to get hurt either. | ||
| So I keep bringing this up, but it's something Steven Crowder talked about. | ||
| He says, this isn't really Kyle on trial here, which is great poetry. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| I've got to adjust my mic. | ||
| Yeah, turn it up a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, hold on. | ||
| Let me adjust that. | ||
| This isn't Kyle on trial. | ||
| You guys can hear me? | ||
| How's that? | ||
| Is that better? | ||
| Yeah, this is all of us on trial. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's everyone. | ||
| And he's right, because Kyle is a normal person who's just trying to help his community. | ||
| And people took issue with this being his community because he didn't live there. | ||
| He worked there. | ||
| He had family there. | ||
| Like, if this isn't your community, what is your community? | ||
| It's not just your literal neighborhood. | ||
| Yes, definitely his community. | ||
| Or your government address. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Kenosha was a crime scene. | ||
| It was a crime scene. | ||
| It was literally a crime scene, and what people need to understand is there was a threat to the community. | ||
| I mean, when I came, okay, the first night I was there, I drove back to Chicago, did a hit with Fox that night, and then went all the way back the third night back to the Kenosha scene. | ||
| When I got back, I was talking to some of the locals. | ||
| I interviewed them. | ||
| I asked them, are you a Black Lives Matter supporter? | ||
| This is on Twitter, Drew H. Live. | ||
| You can see the interview. | ||
| I asked her, are you a Black Lives Matter supporter in broad daylight? | ||
| And I was like, do you condone the violent rioting? | ||
| And she says, yes, this is the only way that we can have our voices heard. | ||
| You were there the first night and the third night? | ||
| This is the day of the Kyle Rittenhouse shooting. | ||
| I'm asking these kind of questions to these people, and this is what they're saying, okay? | ||
| So, also I'm walking around, I'm talking to some of the locals, I interviewed the people that had their businesses burned down to the ground, and they're just confused. | ||
| They're like, what do we have to do with Jacob Blake? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I'm walking around the community. | ||
| You're seeing boarded up windows. | ||
| They're writing, children live here on them. | ||
| Why do you think they're doing that? | ||
| For peaceful protesters? | ||
| You think they're scared of peaceful protesters? | ||
| No. | ||
| There's violent criminals that showed up with a political agenda to burn down a building that had to burn down a community that had nothing to do with them. | ||
| Even right now, Tim, right now, when I was in Kenosha, I'm driving down the street. | ||
| I show up. | ||
| I'm just kind of like having flashbacks. | ||
| I'm like looking around. | ||
| I'm like, this is crazy. | ||
| Surreal to be here again. | ||
| I drive by a building. | ||
| It's a senior citizen home. | ||
| The building is boarded up right now. | ||
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| And it says right now on the building the same thing. | ||
| Senior citizens live here. | ||
| Even right now, they're afraid. | ||
| They're not afraid. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why are they afraid right now? | ||
| Why are they? | ||
| Because there's a threat, even right now. | ||
| Why is the National Guard called out right now? | ||
| Because of peaceful protesters? | ||
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| Because, hold on. | ||
| Has anyone reported we expect a guilty verdict? | ||
| No. | ||
| Across the board, from Chris Hayes to Anna Kasparian, the narrative has been we were wrong about Kyle Rittenhouse, he's gonna be acquitted. | ||
| Now they're preparing for riots. | ||
| How long can they keep lying to the American people about what the violence is, who the violence is coming from? | ||
| Well, but, why don't we talk about Rosenbaum's criminal record? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, we gotta be very careful in how we describe this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Joseph Rosenbaum, I will say this right away. | ||
| I'm sad he lost his life. | ||
| A lot of people wouldn't say that. | ||
| I don't agree with the death penalty, but he should have stayed locked up. | ||
| If he stayed locked up for the atrocities he committed against children, none of this would have happened. | ||
| And I wish he was still alive for more than just his own sake, but Kyle Rittenhouse wouldn't be put in this position. | ||
| He wouldn't have to go out and defend his community from violent rioters. | ||
| He wouldn't have to worry about injuries among those violent rioters that he was still trying to help. | ||
| But I don't believe in the death penalty. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I think it's wrong. | ||
| I think you can't snuff out a life like that. | ||
| And it's very difficult because I don't know how we deal with people like Rosenbaum. | ||
| But let me stress. | ||
| Joseph Rosenbaum is an individual who committed atrocities. | ||
| And I mean that when I say atrocity. | ||
| Because I can't get into specific details. | ||
| The details of what Rosenbaum did to children are so graphic and vile that YouTube might actually give me a strike simply for saying it. | ||
| They will suppress, demonetize, and potentially remove because the description of what Rosenbaum was convicted of is an atrocity against a child. | ||
| An adult action forced on children. | ||
| More than one. | ||
| Nine, I believe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know the exact number. | ||
| Multiple. | ||
| Multiple people. | ||
| Well, he did. | ||
| He was pushing every single button. | ||
| He was saying shoot him. | ||
| That night, Joseph Rosenbaum was pushing every single button to get into some kind of violent confrontation. | ||
| He was requesting to be shot. | ||
| Joseph Rosenbaum, right now. | ||
| Shout out to Julio Rojas. | ||
| If you're watching, Julio, he reported today he's in Kenosha. | ||
| There are literally protesters outside with signs with Joseph Rosenbaum dressed as Superman as if he's some kind of fallen hero. | ||
| That is just 100% false. | ||
| Aside from the pedophilic practices he had in his life, that night he was violent. | ||
| There's nothing heroic about Joseph Rosenbaum in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| I want to be very, very careful. | ||
| Let people call me biased, okay? | ||
| I am biased. | ||
| I have a problem with pedophiles. | ||
| I want to be very, very careful. | ||
| But I think it's important to point out what Ian just said. | ||
| He was yelling, shoot me over and over again. | ||
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| This is why I'm bringing up this charge because you better believe it. | ||
| When I tweet about this stuff, the left gets really, really mad. | ||
| But this matters. | ||
| Now, the judge said he doesn't want the jury to know that Rosenbaum committed atrocities against several children. | ||
| He was targeting them. | ||
| He was going after them. | ||
| He went to prison for it because the jury might say, wow, we don't care if it was self-defense or not at that point. | ||
| I think the judge made the right call, and the jury should not have heard that, but I counter. | ||
| It was, I believe, DeBruin, or DeBruin was his name? | ||
| Yeah, DeBruin. | ||
| The photographer? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Said, Joseph Rosenbaum yelled, I don't care if I go back to jail. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| And when that happened, the state objected, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, the jury can't know that. | ||
| No, they can. | ||
| And the defense said it's what he yelled at the moment. | ||
| He's not stating the past of this individual. | ||
| But here's what I believe. | ||
| First, I will say it again. | ||
| I'm really, really sad that this guy lost his life. | ||
| I'm really sad that he was distressed and messed up to such an insane degree. | ||
| I'm sad that a human being could become so destructive and be so evil and wrong. | ||
| And this person, they say, was in a mental hospital or a jail, and he should have stayed there. | ||
| I'm sad for the little kids he raped. | ||
| But listen, and you're right. | ||
| Rosenbaum shows up on the day he gets out of jail. | ||
| He's not part of any movement. | ||
| He's not there in support of any message. | ||
| That's my opinion. | ||
| Because he hasn't been part of a movement, he's been in prison for what he did to these children. | ||
| and he comes out and says shoot me and he comes out and says I don't care if I go back to jail | ||
| those words to me sound like someone who is depressed, distraught, hates themselves, | ||
| potentially suicidal and for this lashes out with violent tendencies and projects that onto other | ||
| people creating the risk against people like Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| This is a very very touchy subject. | ||
| Yeah, well, we've got to be careful with our words here, but more importantly, you know, people with his charges, and he was charged on 11 incidences with 5 kids, all boys aged 9 to 11, that's the context here, I'm not going to get into the specifics here, but people who have his rap sheet do not have a good time in jail. | ||
| They are targets, they are obviously punished by other prisoners, and prisoners, of course, Take these individuals and they do other unspeakable ... things to them as their own form of justice to these types ... of specific criminals so for him to say that he wants to be ... back in a place where he's in jail where he has not just the ... prison guards against them not just the prison staff but the ... prisoners against him who are known for committing atrocities ... against these specific types of people. | ||
| Shows you someone that is obviously not in a right state of mind, obviously was not doing very well, and obviously something that is a very horrible situation overall. | ||
| I think that was relevant to this case because it shows you that perhaps what Rosenbaum was... what motivated him was mental illness. | ||
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| And I don't mean that to disparage people who have mental illness. | ||
| As I'm saying, this man was unwell to a very extreme degree. | ||
| I think if the jury understood that, it would be a very, very different picture. | ||
| A picture of a protester who was angry and destructive or a mentally ill man who had committed very serious crimes, was lashing out and threatening other people. | ||
| I believe it's important to stress. | ||
| I know Tucker Carlson said it very bluntly, but I'll say it very, you know, much more delicately. | ||
| Rosenbaum had committed violent atrocities against children. | ||
| He has a tendency towards violence against other people, not just in this moment. | ||
| Telling the jury this man has a history of violence against others is extremely important to let them know it was not a one-off moment where a protester got mad at somebody. | ||
| They're arguing provocation. | ||
| That's what the state said, that Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum by threatening Zeminsky and Rosenbaum acted in defense of others. | ||
| They actually argued that. | ||
| If the jury had known, no, Rosenbaum has been violent for decades against minors, against children, against other people, and this is a part of a pattern of abuse he's committed in his life, they might say, a mentally ill man And I'm not trying to disparage them mentally. | ||
| I mean, this is very important. | ||
| Someone who needs to be locked up for their own safety and the safety of others was just released. | ||
| Attacked somebody and you know what? | ||
| Why would that surprise the state who released him? | ||
| They know he's violent. | ||
| They know he's dangerous. | ||
| And the day he gets out, he attacks another person. | ||
| I think the jury should have known that. | ||
| I think that the jury should have been told he's committed violent felonies against children. | ||
| So when you take into consideration why he attacked Kyle Rittenhouse, understand this was not somebody who's never done it before. | ||
| It's someone with a pattern of abuse. | ||
| I don't understand why they can't tell you that he has that history of abuse. | ||
| Can you explain that for me? | ||
| The concern is, what he did in the past, he paid his debt to society, he went to prison, he got released. | ||
| It shouldn't be a factor in whether or not Kyle Rittenhouse was defending himself from him. | ||
| But I would argue, first of all, I would say that's a fair point. | ||
| And I think the judge, for the most part, was right in that regard. | ||
| The judge is trying to make sure, whether it's for conviction or for acquittal, the jury just hears. | ||
| what happened that night. And that's why he kicked out a lot of the evidence from later on, | ||
| because it was prejudicial. And so it's a fair point. But if Freddy Krueger goes in and with | ||
| his knife hands slashes up a teenager, and then is on trial, and they say, don't let anyone know | ||
| that he has a history of attacking children. | ||
| In their dreams. | ||
| In their dreams. | ||
| Which is also real life. | ||
| But my point is, isn't it fair to be like, if Freddy Krueger attacks a teenage girl, and then she casts a spell, and then he turns into a rat and then explodes, I'm being very, very offensive. | ||
| Like, if he's defeated in the dreams, and they're like, oh, they killed Freddy Krueger, it's like, can the court please hear about the teenagers whose dreams he's invaded in the past? | ||
| Because he does this to everyone. | ||
| It's not one-off, it's not one moment. | ||
| Rosenbaum has a violent, abusive history. | ||
| Just really quick before I turn it to you. | ||
| Do we know why he was released? | ||
| Was it an effort by some politicians who wanted to get people out of prison? | ||
| Because there was a big effort underway during that summer where a lot of hardened criminals were released on the streets in the name of prison reform. | ||
| So it'll be interesting to know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know those details. | ||
| I don't know if anyone does. | ||
| Or the lockdowns. | ||
| I don't know what was happening. | ||
| Or COVID. | ||
| I'm sure it was COVID. | ||
| And how long had he been in jail or in prison before that day? | ||
| Yeah, I'm curious, too. | ||
| Any of you guys know? | ||
| Yeah, Tim's looking it up right now, but I was gonna say, I'm really glad that the judge said that it needed to be allowed, that he yelled out, I'm not afraid to go back to prison, because that really puts a spotlight on him having been in prison and literally acting like he has nothing to lose, which I think really lends to Tim's point that he might have definitely been I mean, just observing the behavior from that night, I could say without a shadow of a doubt, and I have the footage to back it up as well, not just an eyewitness, this is not my opinion, Joseph Rosenbaum was a threat to those around him, to the community, to himself, to everybody, even to the police that night. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And you could take a look at the footage, and everything that I'm saying is 100% true, because he was a threat to every single one of those people. | ||
| And to me, I think it's just obvious when you are literally just so open to say, shoot me, shoot me, n-word. | ||
| Literally trying to get into a physical confrontation with somebody with a gun, the people at the gas station. | ||
| I think people just decide for themselves. | ||
| He chased someone armed with a rifle. | ||
| This comes out of testimony, right? | ||
| When he chased him and grabbed his gun. | ||
| Is that on video? | ||
| Not only are there multiple angles of him doing it, the medical examiner said there was blast burns on his hand. | ||
| Because his hand was on the gun. | ||
| And it was on Rikada's stream, I think. | ||
| Someone mentioned that the moment you have your hand on someone else's gun, it's now dual possession. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that means, I don't know if that's true in Wisconsin. | ||
| Maybe it's not, because I think maybe the defense would have argued it. | ||
| Maybe they missed this one. | ||
| Rosenbaum was in possession of a rifle. | ||
| He also concealed his identity. | ||
| So if you guys look at my footage and you see when Rosenbaum is in the ultimate gas station and he's getting crazy with the people with the rifle saying, shoot me inward, shoot me inward. | ||
| He's throwing his body on people, he's just getting crazy, but then he retreats to the street. | ||
| And when he retreats to the street, that's when he conceals his identity with his shirt. | ||
| He takes his shirt off and then he conceals his identity. | ||
| And then, this is the footage that I submitted that they played in the middle of the trial that nobody's ever seen before, is once he retreated to the street, concealed his identity, he's committing arson again. | ||
| He's lighting another trash can on fire. | ||
| And it's two minutes, I timed it, two minutes and five seconds between he's committing arson and charging Kyle Rittenhouse from behind. | ||
| It was really amazing how we've seen leftist activists lie, claiming that Kyle Rittenhouse was chasing Rosenbaum, how the prosecution tried claiming that he aimed his weapon at him, which is absurd, And then, when Kyle Rittenhouse was telling his story in his first bit of testimony, and they get to that point where he's surrounded, Zeminsky armed, Rosenbaum running at him, and he just breaks down, hyperventilating, and they all said, he's not crying, he's not crying, all these angry anti-Rittenhouse, you know, lefty type people. | ||
| And when you look at the video, which is low resolution and grainy, you can't really see anything on his face. | ||
| You can see some reflection. | ||
| When you look at the high-res photographs from photographers, you can see the tears coming down his face. | ||
| When I saw that, look man, either Kyle Rittenhouse deserves an Oscar for that performance, or the reality was, the kids, it was revealed by the defense, he's in therapy. | ||
| For what he went through. | ||
| That was the moment that he realized he was trapped. | ||
| I listened to that. | ||
| He said that Zeminsky's in front of him and then to his right he looks and he sees Rosenbaum running at him. | ||
| He looks to his left and there's three people and then he stops and he breaks down. | ||
| He's reliving that moment when he realized, I can't get away. | ||
| I'm not gonna be able to escape tonight. | ||
| There were people blocking him everywhere he looked. | ||
| So he ran towards an opening and that's where the guy chased him. | ||
| I would pose this question, and it's speculation, pure speculation. | ||
| How would have this story ended if Kyle didn't fire? | ||
| Same thing leading up, everything's the same. | ||
| Everything's the same. | ||
| Rosenbaum's violent behavior the whole night, everything's the same leading up to that moment, but Kyle didn't fire. | ||
| What would have happened? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, I'll give you my honest opinion, which is pure speculation and random thought. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think Rosenbaum would have taken that weapon and used it on other people. | ||
| The defense, uh, Calrint now specified that. | ||
| And I believe it's reasonable to assume that because he was destructive, he was burning things down. | ||
| But it's hard for me... | ||
| Because there's that bias in all of us. | ||
| It can't happen here, that idea. | ||
| You know, so when I was reading the story about ADA binger pointing a rifle at the jury, I'm like, I'm digging up a story after story trying to fact check this because I'm like, there's no way the prosecutor would aim a rifle finger on the trigger at the jury! | ||
| And the reporting says he did, and so I'm like, this is why I use NewsGuard, and people laugh because Microsoft funded, and I'm like, because it's not about what I want to believe, it's about what the news reported happened. | ||
| And maybe they're wrong, and maybe they'll correct, and I'll issue a correction, but that's what happened. | ||
| When it comes to what happened with the defense, they said, Kyle said he feared that if he got that weapon, he would use it on Kyle, and he would use it on others. | ||
| I believe there is a strong, strong likelihood Rosenbaum would have used that rifle on Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| I don't believe he would have started using it on others. | ||
| I believe that's where things get a little exaggerated. | ||
| However, consider, if he... So what I mean to say is, I don't think that Rosenbaum was in this frame of mind where he would take a rifle and just randomly gun people down. | ||
| That's what they say about Rittenhouse. | ||
| Like, he was just a mass shooter. | ||
| He was an active shooter. | ||
| He was going to do this. | ||
| However, what would have happened if Rosenbaum got the gun and shot Kyle? | ||
| People would have screamed, yo, he just shot that dude. | ||
| Richie would have run up and rendered aid to Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| People would have started screaming at Rosenbaum. | ||
| Rosenbaum would have started running. | ||
| Someone would have run up and hit him with a skateboard. | ||
| Rosenbaum would start firing on people. | ||
| So in that regard, The mob would have attacked him, not knowing who he was, or caring who he was, and then he would have used that rifle on people. | ||
| It's definitely the problem of letting go of your rifle in a situation like that. | ||
| You can't do it because of that. | ||
| Because of the possibility that the guy's gonna go hostile with the weapon. | ||
| But I do know that Zamiski, or according to Kyle's testimony, told Rosenbaum, catch him and kill him. | ||
| I don't know if those are exact words, or if it was grab him, catch him, and kill him. | ||
| He said, get him, get him, get him. | ||
| He said, cranny him, that boy. | ||
| Cranny him, that guy. | ||
| People were screaming all sorts of stuff about killing Kyle, so in his mind, you know, Best case scenario, if he lets go of the rifle, he's going to get shot and killed. | ||
| You know, that night, man, in the middle of that riot, the mob mentality for two days straight was already at a 100. | ||
| They're burning down buildings. | ||
| It's at a 100. | ||
| They're going, they're going, they're going. | ||
| But after Kyle shot Rosenbaum, it went from like 100 to 1,000. | ||
| They just were... Where is he? | ||
| Where is he? | ||
| They even punched Richie, right? | ||
| Like when Richie was carrying Rosenbaum to take him to the car where they were going to transport him because they thought it was Richie that shot him. | ||
| They were just... It went from a hundred to a thousand. | ||
| That's the only way I could describe it. | ||
| It was the mob mentality on steroids. | ||
| They were looking for him. | ||
| Where is he? | ||
| They were seeking to identify him. | ||
| I can only assume as to why. | ||
| I don't think they wanted to have a conversation with a mob. | ||
| And let's not let's not forget there were many other incidences across this country where right wingers were | ||
| shot by leftist activists. | ||
| Some more assassinated. | ||
| Some were shot during altercation. | ||
| But these incidences happened with the same exact almost situation but different political ideologies at the | ||
| at different ends of them. | ||
| So to have one of these highlighted and the other ones ignored literally brings up the larger question of what's | ||
| really going on here with the spin the play the attention that all | ||
| of this getting I think it's deliberate and I think there's a | ||
| big big big agenda behind all of this. | ||
| They don't they don't they don't want us to have guns man. | ||
| You know, the most annoying thing to me is when I see these memes from establishment Democrat types saying, like, no one's trying to ban your guns, and I'm like, first of all, in West Virginia, for the most part, there's a lot of guns that are not banned, I'm allowed to have, but you can't bring them to Virginia, you can't bring them to Maryland, you can't bring them to New Jersey. | ||
| It's scary in New Jersey. | ||
| I went to a gun store, and they had a certain weapon. | ||
| It was an other firearm. | ||
| And I'll just leave it at that because I don't want to get into too much details about the weapons I own. | ||
| And when I was buying it, I was like, oh, I really want to buy that. | ||
| It's a great weapon. | ||
| And the guy said, you're going to need this certificate proving it's legal. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
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| He's like, carry it with you at all times if you ever have this in your possession. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because based on how it looks, it's illegal. | ||
| It is banned in New Jersey. | ||
| And I'm like, it's just a 9mm. | ||
| It's a 9mm rifle, basically. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| That's banned? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| But a cop wouldn't understand that and he'd probably arrest you for it. | ||
| And I was like, dude, this is crazy. | ||
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| You know, what you said, what did you say earlier, it's not so much leftists that don't like guns, what did you say, like neo-socialists? | ||
| Establishment neoliberal types. | ||
| No, no, the neo-socialist youth love guns until they gain power. | ||
| But I want to encourage them, because they seem so afraid of firearms and so afraid of guns, whether it's a handgun or a rifle, shotgun, whatever, right? | ||
| They're so afraid. | ||
| I want to encourage you guys that are listening, go to a gun range. | ||
| You will see it is probably one of those safest places in your community for two reasons. | ||
| If anything goes down at a gun range, you're going to be safe. | ||
| But number two, the practices at a gun range are, at least all the ones I've ever been to, are super safe. | ||
| People are constantly checking, checking, checking, checking. | ||
| Everyone's watching each other's backs. | ||
| Everyone is fully aware of what's happening with each other. | ||
| Is this loaded? | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| And I think a lot of people haven't experienced that so they think it's just like so it's like like the bat cave and there's all these guns come out and everyone's irresponsible and just want to kill people you know I would encourage people to check that out. | ||
| You're right but I understand why they feel that way when you watch the prosecutor in a case involving possession of a gun Pointing the rifle at the jury with his finger on the trigger. | ||
| The state prosecutor would be kicked out of a gun range if he did that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He would be not allowed. | ||
| He'd be banned for life. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, this is just absolutely insane and credulous behavior that deserves to be called out. | ||
| I'm surprised no one's really talking about this as much as they should. | ||
| Little finger on the trigger. | ||
| I want to shout out chat for saying little binger, by the way. | ||
| If, if, if ADA binger, was outside in West Virginia and he was walking down the street and he went up to somebody in full view of a huge crowd of people and said, have you checked that? | ||
| Is it unloaded? | ||
| Grabbed it, then pointed at the crowd. | ||
| Someone would shoot him. | ||
| Not guaranteed. | ||
| I don't want to be over-hyperbolic, but some people would probably raise their guns and be like, drop it! | ||
| Drop it now! | ||
| Aiming a rifle at a crowd of people. | ||
| Someone would tackle him. | ||
| If he was in a protest, the cops would throw him to the ground and arrest him on the spot. | ||
| And he did it in a courtroom in a jury. | ||
| And this is what people see. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Cassandra Fairbanks tweeted something funny. | ||
| She's like, maybe liberals shouldn't be allowed to have guns. | ||
| And I'm like, I get it. | ||
| But that's the liberal establishment argument. | ||
| People shouldn't be allowed to have guns because some people are as stupid as A.D.A. | ||
| Binger. | ||
| Irresponsible. | ||
| Man, he did exactly what Alec Baldwin did. | ||
| He took a gun, he pulled it, it wasn't loaded, and he pointed it, and I don't know if he pulled the trigger, but he put his finger on it, which is essentially pulling it. | ||
| I mean, it's not pulling it, but it is for safety purposes. | ||
| We are chilling in our mobile studio. | ||
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| It's amazing. | ||
| This is so cool. | ||
| Actually, I like it better than our regular studio. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| This is like, you're going to have to brand this, Tim. | ||
| You know how you have certain packages where people want to be like music artists? | ||
| Oh, get this package. | ||
| You can get a guitar. | ||
| I've been doing this for a year and a half. | ||
| All my videos are in my RV. | ||
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| With Bidenflation going on in about a year, people are going to be making a million bucks a year. | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| No, no, but I was bringing this up because in our regular studio, we have replica firearms. | ||
| And secured, we have real firearms. | ||
| I have a safe. | ||
| And so first, whenever someone comes over, if we're ever going to do anything, I will always make sure someone handles the replica or effectively inactive, incapable of firing weapon to see how they behave first. | ||
| You will never be allowed to touch anything I own. | ||
| Unless you can display proper gun etiquette. | ||
| And that being said too, for the most part in the studio, no one ever touches anything, any of my weapons. | ||
| But when it comes to going to the range in West Virginia, where we're, you know, you can, you know, people can use weapons and we're out hunting and stuff like that. | ||
| We always, I always am very, very careful. | ||
| I have guns. | ||
| I have legal weapons, and I have them because we live in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| But when someone comes over, I'll give them a replica and see what they do with it. | ||
| And I tell you this, people have no idea what they're doing. | ||
| And I'll say something like this, hey, this can't fire, but still, never point it at someone. | ||
| And they go, okay, and they drop it down. | ||
| I'm like, give it back, you can't touch, never again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is why I don't let people touch my actual weapons in a home setting. | ||
| If we go to a range, and we're in a proper controlled environment, okay, Show me that you know how to do it, and we can, you can, here, use my weapon, there's the target, and stuff like that, but in my house, I am not gonna take that risk, because seven out of ten people, they have no idea. | ||
| But when we get, like, military people, you know, they'll take the replica, they'll hold it up, they'll look at it, inspect it, and they'll be like, this is great, and they'll never point it, they'll keep it down, they'll keep it up, depending on what floor we're on, and I'm like, see, these guys know what they're doing. | ||
| I'm not going to take the average person who has no idea what they're doing to a range where they're going to be like standing there with a gun and then turn around and be like, hey, the instructor is going to grab him and pin him to the ground. | ||
| You get slapped for that, at least minimally. | ||
| But it's a big responsibility. | ||
| And I think this is why there's been such a coordinated attack against gun owners, because they're some of the most responsible human beings on the face of the earth, especially concealed carry members, permit members. | ||
| If you look at the crime statistics of people who have those specific licenses, They are astronomically way lower than the general public. | ||
| You look at the people that do commit the gun crime are the people who get guns illegally in major urban areas, predominantly. | ||
| But there is this element. | ||
| You have this firearm. | ||
| You have a huge, huge responsibility. | ||
| You better take it seriously. | ||
| You better practice with it. | ||
| You better learn how to clean your firearm. | ||
| This is life and death I think many people understand that and I think this is why there's been such an attack against this culture or even you know if you show photos of of Instagram on Instagram of you holding a firearm or Facebook automatically gets downranked automatically there's all big stigma against you, there shouldn't be. | ||
| There should be, oh, this guy's a responsible human being. | ||
| Just like you have a fire extinguisher in your house, you should have a firearm, uh, based on different scenarios and situations that you're in, especially if you're on a farm. | ||
| So that's just basic common knowledge that should be, you know, more available to everyone, but the culture hasn't spread as far. | ||
| Go to instructors. | ||
| It's sad that the majority of those responsible get punished for the minority that aren't. | ||
| So I'm actually really optimistic about this particularly egregious display from ADA binger, because to me, this is such an obvious, clear indicator that the people who want to ban your right to bear any kind of weapons have no flaming clue what they're talking about. | ||
| They don't know what they're doing. | ||
| They don't know what kind of gun they're talking about. | ||
| They're literally holding it with their finger on the trigger. | ||
| Even I know that, and I haven't been around guns all that much. | ||
| It's beyond that. | ||
| They're literally arguing it's wrong for people to point weapons at other people, and then he points the weapon at other people, like... With the finger on the trigger. | ||
| Like, yo, hey, guess what? | ||
| All the two-way people agree it's wrong to point your weapon, you know, negligently at other people. | ||
| Just like that. | ||
| Everyone agrees, like, that Alec Baldwin... Well, the funny thing is, with Alec Baldwin, the left is defending him, saying it's not his fault. | ||
| And I'm like, but he was holding the weapon! | ||
| He pulled the hammer back and pulled the trigger! | ||
| Whose fault is it? | ||
| When the prosecutor said, you are responsible for every bullet that comes out of your gun, I said, he is 100% correct! | ||
| Alec Baldwin! | ||
| Let me tell you guys something. | ||
| The detectives in the Rittenhouse case testified. | ||
| They were asked. | ||
| When did you start your investigation? | ||
| And you filed charges against Kyle Rittenhouse, the prosecutor did, before the investigation concluded. | ||
| And they say, that's actually fairly normal, it's a known homicide, it's a high-profile case, and we know what happened that night, so we file the charges for the crime, and then we'll begin investigating and pulling the facts together. | ||
| And I said, oh, it's not uncommon to do that. | ||
| Oh, oh, because we know that an individual was involved in a homicide. | ||
| Oh, so is Alec Baldwin going to get arrested anytime soon? | ||
| I know it's a different state. | ||
| But if you want to argue, it's not uncommon to file charges against someone and then investigate. | ||
| Alec Baldwin shot a guy. | ||
| I mean, shot a lady and a guy. | ||
| OK, well, then file the charges against him and then work your investigation. | ||
| No, no, I'm not going to. | ||
| I don't want to rehash the Alec Baldwin stuff completely, but I'll just point out they're very different cases. | ||
| But if you believe, if we know for a fact someone pointed a gun and pulled the trigger and killed someone else, we can file charges before the investigation, then Alec Baldwin should have been charged, and should be awaiting trial the same as Rittenhouse did. | ||
| It's a different case I know, it's different charges I know, I'm just saying. | ||
| If we know he pulled the gun and pulled the trigger, Then why aren't they filing charges against him? | ||
| They know he did it. | ||
| Now they can figure out if there's mitigating factors. | ||
| For Kyle Rittenhouse, he says, I have an affirmative defense. | ||
| I was acting in self-defense. | ||
| They said, oh yeah? | ||
| Prove it to a jury. | ||
| OK, Alec Baldwin. | ||
| He says, it was an accident. | ||
| I was told it wasn't loaded. | ||
| OK, Alec, tell it to a jury. | ||
| The jury will decide. | ||
| They're doing it to Rittenhouse, but not Alec Baldwin? | ||
| Spare me, dude. | ||
| Well, Alec Baldwin hates Trump, so he gets a pass. | ||
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Yeah, he's a celebrity. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's how the media plays their dirty games. | ||
| It probably really isn't as simple as that. | ||
| It's getting really crazy out there, you know? | ||
| The political establishment realized the power of the media a long, long, long time ago. | ||
| A long time ago. | ||
| And they've been gaining power and it's been encroaching and they use this in key areas. | ||
| and it is remarkable that you have, conservatives have completely overlooked these district attorney | ||
| political races. I'm not sure who tweeted it, so forgive me for not crediting you on this tweet. | ||
| They said people, I think it was Michael Malice maybe, he said conservatives need to realize that | ||
| prosecutors are politicians with the same motivation as any other politician and will | ||
| act accordingly. Let's go to super chats. | ||
| If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel. | ||
| We're gonna have a members-only segment of the show coming up around 11 or so p.m. | ||
| Eastern Time. | ||
| But let's read what y'all have to say and make sure you, once again, smash that like button. | ||
| We have a lot of Super Chats, a lot of comments. | ||
| Alright, let's see. | ||
| There's a lot of... First of all, Artemis Fowl has a... | ||
| A super chat we can't read. | ||
| Comparable to what Tucker Carlson said, but mostly because it's a family-friendly show, and you know. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| Bradley says, is there a CGI image of who he's pointing the gun at? | ||
| No, there isn't. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| The computer generated image. | ||
| I believe it took a few hours to produce. | ||
| The computer tried to speculate, it was an algorithm trying to generate what the image might look like. | ||
| Should not be admitted to evidence. | ||
| But the best part was, the defense was like, who is he pointing the gun at? | ||
| The prosecution says, the Zeminskys. | ||
| The defense says, the Zeminskys aren't in the photo. | ||
| Yet still, it gets admitted into evidence? | ||
| That to me is insane. | ||
| Is he asking if there's CGI of who Binger's pointing the gun at? | ||
| Because that's a meme. | ||
| A lot of potential memes come out. | ||
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I get it, I get it. | |
| A lot of memes. | ||
| I was looking at that. | ||
| We should get a... Yeah, so Binger's pointing the rifle. | ||
| Why don't we do a CGI of Binger? | ||
| A mock-up, yeah. | ||
| And then we can see, because if Kyle... You know, here's another... This is a really important point. | ||
| When they're saying the Binger pointed the rifle at the jury, I'm biased. | ||
| Even though I don't like Binger, I'm like, I can't imagine him being that dumb to do it. | ||
| And the jury's cropped out of the image. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| If Binger wants to argue that the Zeminskis, who are cropped out of the image, had a gun pointed at them and it's blurry and grainy, then okay, Binger, we'll play it your way. | ||
| You pointed the gun at the jury. | ||
| As far as I'm concerned. | ||
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Right? | |
| Alright, let's see. | ||
| Enigma says, hey Tim, did you catch the prosecution rebuttal? | ||
| It was a mess. | ||
| Basically a tantrum for the prosecution who are mad for getting called out. | ||
| They even tried to say there is no such thing as a left-handed gun. | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| That the judge had to dismiss the jury, I think, twice. | ||
| Yeah, two different times. | ||
| During their final... During the rebuttal. | ||
| Closing argument. | ||
| So here's what happens. | ||
| The prosecution has their closing argument, the defense has their closing argument, and then the prosecution gets a rebuttal. | ||
| I actually really like that system. | ||
| I'll tell you why. | ||
| The prosecution goes in blind. | ||
| They don't know what the defense is going to say. | ||
| They make their argument. | ||
| The defense then gets to base their closing argument to discredit the prosecution. | ||
| So we give the prosecution like a half an hour or so to address some of the arguments. | ||
| The state gets the last word. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| I'm not a big fan. | ||
| But, during their rebuttal, in their last statement, the judge had to dismiss the jury because they were saying factually, as matters of law, inaccurate things. | ||
| The most important of which is, the state controls the right to remain silent. | ||
| If, because they're prosecuting Zeminsky, the defense cannot call him as a witness, because Zeminsky will say, I plead the fifth. | ||
| The state can call him as a witness and grant him immunity, thus getting the testimony if it favors them. | ||
| Which means, Zeminski's testimony likely did not favor the prosecution, because if it did, they would have granted him immunity to get Kyle convicted. | ||
| The defense doesn't have the ability to do that. | ||
| They lied and claimed what they can just plead the fifth. | ||
| The defense said, I want a surrebuttal to tell the jury the state controls Zeminsky's right to remain silent. | ||
| So we didn't have the opportunity. | ||
| And the judge said, no, tell me the judge's bias for the defense. | ||
| The judge said, no, I don't think I'll do that. | ||
| And I'm like, that's BS. | ||
| The state can grant immunity and get the testimony if it proved Rittenhouse guilty, and they didn't because it doesn't! | ||
| I guess, well, you gotta remember that Kyle's innocent until he's proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and that's the weight on the prosecution. | ||
| They have a big job if they want to try and prove that with blurry footage and weird testimony. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Daniel Maxwell says one common trait of all authoritarian groups is they all believe the common people are unable to think for themselves. | ||
| And so this is where it's interesting. | ||
| My personal opinion is that in many instances, the defense didn't object to what the prosecution was saying. | ||
| Because I got to tell you, I was getting annoyed by the prosecution. | ||
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A lot. | |
| I think a lot of people were. | ||
| He was really condescending in that video you played earlier. | ||
| It's not just, it's, yes, and it's not just that. | ||
| It's, it's like, there's condescending in a negative way, and there's condescending in a patronizing way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kyle, but didn't you want to kill those people? | ||
| And I'm like, oh, shut up! | ||
| Just be straight. | ||
| Tell me what happened. | ||
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Kyle, your gun kills people. | |
| It's like, you remember when AOC was testifying before Homan, who was the head of ICE? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And she goes, with all due respect, legal asylees have broken no law. | |
| And I'm like, shut up, man! | ||
| You know, but look, that works on people. | ||
| And then Holman goes, they did violate Section 3C9A, illegal. | ||
| And I was like, oh, well, I don't know the actual law. | ||
| I'm just giving you numbers. | ||
| But that is grating to me. | ||
| As an adult, I imagine the jury's like, we don't want to be here. | ||
| You know, we're told we have to be here. | ||
| We're hearing a jury. | ||
| We'll do our duty. | ||
| Don't waste our time. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Hey, some people might be swayed by it. | ||
| I think I think you could tell the judge was getting irritated with him too, and the jury's watching that as well. | ||
| You know, and I think when you're in an environment like that, I think he did a pretty good job irritating everybody in the room. | ||
| And if that was his intention, maybe he thinks that's a good strategy to win the jury over. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think we're just going to find out. | ||
| But Drew, can I ask you, I don't know if we're going off on a tangent a little bit, looking at the jury, where do you think they're standing? | ||
| What do you think their decision will be? | ||
| I don't want to comment on that. | ||
| I just will say that being in the room it was very tense and I know that having a direct conversation with him I could pretty much sense he was trying to stray away from my testimony so that they obviously couldn't hear it. | ||
| I'm not accusing him of that it just seemed that way because every time he would Tell me something it was to divert from the actual testimony I was there to give and first he assassinated my credibility then my character and it led to him and I just kind of going back and forth where You know, I had to define the word apparently for him. | ||
| He just that was crazy But that's what he was trying to do to me. | ||
| He was digging, digging, digging. | ||
| He was like, you tweeted this on Twitter. | ||
| I was like, can you be more specific? | ||
| Because I tweet a lot. | ||
| I'm a public figure. | ||
| He's like, this tweet here, you said this. | ||
| You inserted your opinion. | ||
| Just like Tim is impersonating him. | ||
| You inserted your opinion here. | ||
| I was like, no, I said apparently. | ||
| He's like, what difference does that make? | ||
| It's not my 100% opinion, or 100% this happened. | ||
| This is kind of as far as I can see. | ||
| So you jumped to an apparent conclusion. | ||
| It's kind of what it apparently means? | ||
| It's like, where is this guy? | ||
| It seems so. | ||
| Yeah, as far as you can see. | ||
| As far as you can see, it seems that's the case. | ||
| It's not my opinion. | ||
| We have someone updated us on what Rakeda was saying. | ||
| Desmond Sullivan says, when Rakeda said Hernandez was a bad witness, that was a criticism of the media for creating pretrial bias. | ||
| Some jurors want to disregard evidence. | ||
| So I don't think it was about you. | ||
| I think you said a lot of really, really important things. | ||
| And the funny thing is about how they accuse you of bias. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
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Well, let's see. | |
| Let's ask the public. | ||
| If you guys thought, live in the chat, I was a great witness, drop a 1 in the comment section right now. | ||
| I think everybody's a big fan, to be honest. | ||
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And then drop 2 if, uh... You thought he was just trash. | |
| I said it very simply. | ||
| Look, if I was on the jury, I would get really offended by the point of bias. | ||
| Because I'd be like, is he lying or not? | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Are you gonna get him for perjury or not? | ||
| If he's telling the truth and he's telling me what he saw, I don't care what you think his politics are. | ||
| Yeah, the evidence speaks for itself in a lot of cases, the footage. | ||
| The same is true for Gage Grosskreutz. | ||
| It's all 1s, everyone's spamming 1s. | ||
| Not all 1s, not like a... There's a couple 2s. | ||
| There's some 2s we gotta have in there. | ||
| Like a 12 to 1 ratio? | ||
| Oh, here we got like a 10 to 1, 12 to 1. | ||
| 15 to 1 ratio? | ||
| I'm not perfect, there's gotta be some 2s. | ||
| No, no one's perfect. | ||
| Someone threw a 3 in there. | ||
| Thanks, audience. | ||
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No idea what that means! | |
| Okay. | ||
| When Gage Grosskreutz testified, I'm like, I want to hear what he has to say. | ||
| I'm not going to call him a liar. | ||
| And then he lied. | ||
| Definitively and easily lied. | ||
| And they're like, you lied to the police. | ||
| And he's like, oh, no, no, I didn't. | ||
| They're like, you said this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He lied. | ||
| I got to tell you, man, when, when the prosecutor said, Mr. Grosskreutz, at this point in your confrontation with Mr. Reynolds, you had drawn your gun and there's a video of it playing and Gage goes, no. | ||
| And then he's like, here's the video we're playing right now, and you have a gun in your hand. | ||
| And he goes, yes. | ||
| I couldn't believe when I said, are you kidding me? | ||
| Now that was a lie. | ||
| He lied outright. | ||
| Now you gave video. | ||
| If they want to get you for perjury because he thinks you're biased and lying, you need only go to the video and be like, hey, the video shows something different. | ||
| I could have sat there and push play and just narrated it. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yep. | ||
| And that's the truth. | ||
| That's the reality. | ||
| Yeah, you're supposed to say, I don't remember. | ||
| Like, he could have said, I don't remember. | ||
| Not directly know, I would imagine. | ||
| If he truly didn't remember. | ||
| We got a good one here. | ||
| This is important. | ||
| Stunning and Brave says the McCloskeys went down for doing the same thing ADA Binger did. | ||
| Let me remind you that the McCloskey wife said that the gun she had was checked and the firing pin was reversed and it was incapable of firing. | ||
| He didn't even check it himself! | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| ADA binger says, but I asked if it was unloaded before I pointed the weapon and put my finger | ||
| on the trigger. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Yo, man, never assume. | ||
| If I was, if I was in a courtroom in any capacity, I don't care if I was there as a reporter | ||
| and he raised that weapon and did that, I would have yelled. | ||
| I would have. | ||
| I'm not, I'm not joking. | ||
| I don't care if I'm a juror or I would have, if I was, uh, if I was like they're spectating | ||
| and he did that, I would have gotten up and be like, you're out of it. | ||
| Stop him. | ||
| Nobody did. | ||
| Nobody did. | ||
| That was shocking to me. | ||
| And I guess probably the defense were like, that was really good for us. | ||
| Like that was an insane thing to do. | ||
| Yo, man. | ||
| You guys, you've seen the videos. | ||
| There's a guy at a gun range with his buddy, and he's, like, aiming the weapon, and then he turns to his friend, and the instructor runs up, grabs him, and puts him in, like, an arm lock, and drops him, and then drags him out, and they're like, whoa. | ||
| There's the video of Will Smith. | ||
| The guy's picking up the gun, and Will Smith looks at him and smacks the gun down. | ||
| You don't see, like, if Will Smith is gonna smack a gun from like smack their hand down when they draw a gun nobody in the court could have seen binger do this and been like grab him and you know what i i'd imagine no bailiff no judge would would react negatively towards you i actually think they'd be like actually you're right he should have done that | ||
| I don't care if someone says it's clear. | ||
| Alec Baldwin was told his gun was clear, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You never assume. | ||
| Never assume, kids. | ||
| You never assume. | ||
| You assume that it's not safe, so you're constantly checking to make sure that it's safe. | ||
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Always. | |
| With guns. | ||
| Let's read this one. | ||
| We got, uh... | ||
| Strider and Koda says, Hernandez, when Binger brought up your tweets, why didn't you say the one about Rosenbaum being a child abuser? | ||
| We'll put it that way. | ||
| Would have been epic. | ||
| The reason why was because I was aware of that rule, that it can't be brought in, and I wasn't sure if I quoted my own tweet that that would somehow... Mistrial. | ||
| I don't know, you know, so I just played it safe. | ||
| I'm not trying to hide anything. | ||
| That's why I didn't quote the tweet, because I didn't want to Did they instruct you on what you could or couldn't say? | ||
| done by just quoting them. Did they instruct you on what you could or couldn't say? Nobody | ||
| instructed me. That's interesting because there was accusations that the prosecution | ||
| wanted to trigger a mistrial so they could get a do-over. | ||
| And by bringing us up your tweets, they open the door to anything you've ever | ||
| tweeted about. | ||
| So that's why they said, like you could have said, I also tweeted a lot of things about | ||
| the character of these individuals and who they were, and they weren't opinions, such | ||
| as, and if you did bring that up, the judge might have been like, mistrial. | ||
| That's why I didn't do it. | ||
| I wasn't sure. | ||
| Well, I, you know, it's hard to say what you were supposed to do, but I'll put it this | ||
| I think the only thing that matters is that you just answered the questions as they were asked. | ||
| You didn't... Outside of, like, when he said the things in Kenosha, and you said violent riots, you didn't say, and also, by the way, so-and-so did X. I actually think that was the right thing to do. | ||
| You said that they didn't tell you what was off and on limits, but that you knew... Nobody coached me. | ||
| You knew ahead of time that it was... you weren't supposed to talk about Rosenbaum's test? | ||
| That's been reported multiple times. | ||
| So you knew through the media before you went in? | ||
| Yeah, I've heard that. | ||
| I wonder if that's like witness testimony tampering. | ||
| You can't avoid it with modern media. | ||
| You know, look, when DeBruin said Rosenbaum yelled, I don't care if I go back to jail, they objected and the judge was like, The witness said he heard it. | ||
| It's part of it. | ||
| It's in. | ||
| And so there's something, I'm not a lawyer again, but we've all heard opening the door. | ||
| The prosecution made arguments about opening the door to evidence. | ||
| I think he may have potentially opened the door to anything you've ever tweeted about. | ||
| But the defense probably couldn't ask you about it. | ||
| But I think maybe if you said it, then he'd be like, your honor, that's not supposed to come up, and he'd be like, you asked him about his social media posts. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I don't know what the outcome would have been. | ||
| That's why I just tried to play it safe, yeah. | ||
| No, I think it's not even about that. | ||
| I think the fact that you simply just answered the questions that you were asked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, you weren't injecting your bias. | ||
| If you were biased the way they claimed, you probably would have been like, hey, did you guys know that this dude was, you know, committing atrocities against children? | ||
| And that's the thing too, is towards the end of my testimony, you could clearly see that Binger was, and I know lawyers do this, they ask the same question 30 times, because they want to get an answer out of you that they didn't get the first 29 times, and hopefully maybe on the 30th time, you'll give them the answer that they wanted because you're getting annoyed, right? | ||
| I saw him pull that on me, because at the end he was like, so you feared for your life because someone was pointing a gun at you with a laser. | ||
| And I was like, I'm always fearing for my life in the midst of riots. | ||
| You were fearing for your life, because I was like, sir, I didn't want to be misidentified as a rioter. | ||
| I said it like two times. | ||
| And he's like, are you just incapable of answering the question? | ||
| And then the judge was just like, where's this going? | ||
| Yeah, he's like, he answered the question. | ||
| The jury was watching all that, I'll just say that. | ||
| And they watched a lot of that. | ||
| They watched all that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| ReadyToRumble says, MSNBC didn't show the defense's closing arguments, but they showed both of the prosecutions. | ||
| No wonder why the left is clueless, because they're lacking real information. | ||
| You know what's sad? | ||
| NBC News reported, gun charge dismissed. | ||
| And all the responses were like, the judge is biased, the judge is a white supremacist. | ||
| They're like, the law clearly states you can't have a gun. | ||
| How is he getting away with this? | ||
| And it's like, just watch the trial. | ||
| Just read the law. | ||
| Take two seconds to do a Google search. | ||
| They don't want to. | ||
| Well, they were going after the judge because of that comment he made about the Asian food, right? | ||
| Oh, it's ridiculous. | ||
| Dude, he's talking about... That's not... Listen, I'll just say this. | ||
| In the courtroom, it's so tense in there. | ||
| He's saying things like that because he's just trying to disperse the tension. | ||
| Everyone's just on edge. | ||
| I mean, you got the... Because it's really weird and awkward because everyone's arguing, right? | ||
| On TV, the defense, the prosecution. | ||
| And then, you know, the feed cuts. | ||
| Let's go to lunch. | ||
| They're all together. | ||
| They're having to talk to interact with each other. | ||
| We're all going to go eat. | ||
| So the judge is trying to just like really just make it less tense in the room. | ||
| And it's just to me, this is why I hate the the corporate media when they do stuff, because they take something like that and they try and make it more divisive when it's someone actually just trying to bring peace to a situation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Here's Billy Bob. | ||
| Super chat. | ||
| He says your drawing rings true. | ||
| Spooky. | ||
| So, um, on our last episode, I claimed that I had a picture of Kyle Rittenhouse pointing his weapon at protesters. | ||
| And the picture was a crude stick figure drawing I had made in about 10 seconds to make a point that... You were right. | ||
| But hold on, hold on. | ||
| I think you're a time traveler. | ||
| On the other side of the paper, I had another crude drawing where I said, ladies and gentlemen, this is a picture of ADA Binger pointing his rifle at... I didn't say the jury though. | ||
| It was Kyle. | ||
| I said Kyle. | ||
| I think Richie McGinnis was behind him in the picture. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| In this one, it was just Kyle. | ||
| It was a squiggly, angry face, and then a stick figure pointing a weapon. | ||
| And I said, I have a picture of A.D.A. | ||
| Binger pointing a gun at Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| And the joke was, when he claimed his CGI image was a picture of something, and it's just a rendering from a computer from a week ago or whatever, I'm like, okay, well, I've got a picture too. | ||
| And then Ian's like, the picture's a drawing. | ||
| And I'm like, It's a type of picture. | ||
| Let's work this out. | ||
| You know what that really reminded me of? | ||
| And I was looking at this after my testimony, so it's completely irrelevant, but you know those pictures where you show it to like five different people and they all see five different things, but it's like the same picture? | ||
| Rorschach test. | ||
| Dude, that's exactly what that, like at least for me personally, I stared at it for like 15 minutes. | ||
| I'm like, okay, maybe I could see what they're saying. | ||
| I'm like, let me come back to this. | ||
| I come back to him, I'm like, I see something completely different. | ||
| It's just not, to me personally, I don't think that is sufficient. | ||
| We needed to do a skit on this. | ||
| It would be a great skit where there's like a doctor and he's like, tell me what do you see? | ||
| And it's like, it's an inkblot, and it's like, I see a butterfly. | ||
| And he goes to the next one, and it's like, a giraffe. | ||
| And he goes to the next one, and it's the blown up image of Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| I see Kyle Rittenhouse pointing a rifle, and it's like a binger. | ||
| He's like, pointing a rifle at a bunch of protesters after switching his right-handed rifle to his left hand, putting the chamber near his face that would eject the casing into his face. | ||
| It's like, interesting, and he's writing stuff down. | ||
| That's what you see, huh? | ||
| That's what you see. | ||
| That would have been really funny. | ||
| All right, we got one from Tommy. | ||
| What is he? | ||
| Groshing. | ||
| He says, the duty to retreat stuff became their swan song after ADA started pitching the provocation angle. | ||
| If someone provokes a fight, they have a duty to retreat before having the privilege of self-defense. | ||
| Okay, so that makes sense. | ||
| So even if, this is interesting, I do remember when the judge was instructing on this and I felt like, this is it. | ||
| Rittenhouse wins. | ||
| Because the argument is, if you provoke someone, and then you try to retreat, then you can defend yourself. | ||
| If you provoke a fight, you can't defend yourself because you started it. | ||
| If you provoke a fight and run away, you can defend yourself. | ||
| So that's why they were like, you had a duty to retreat! | ||
| And then I'm kind of like, isn't that a video of Kyle Rittenhouse running away? | ||
| So even if he did provoke it, he ran away after the fact? | ||
| The funny thing is, the argument from the prosecution was that Rittenhouse was trying to lead Rosenbaum to an empty parking lot. | ||
| Like, for what? | ||
| This is the craziest, circuitous plan I've ever heard from someone. | ||
| It's conspiracy theory. | ||
| I just think it's crazy how the media tries to spin it as, like, an active shooting situation. | ||
| Because, for me, after Kyle, you know, came back around the car, he shot Rosenbaum, you know, comes around the car, he checks him, he pulls out his phone, and he's making a phone call. | ||
| That's when you see in my footage, he jogs right past me. | ||
| And an active shooter isn't just kind of like walking past people that are, you know, running towards one of the people that they just shot. | ||
| And that happened multiple times. | ||
| Like, so even for me, I walk right past him and he just went right past me because he was already going to go turn himself into the police. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then they started trying to identify where he is. | ||
| Where's he at? | ||
| Where's he at? | ||
| I'm telling you, man, it went from like a hundred to a thousand. | ||
| I got a super chat here that's triggering. | ||
| I'm very triggered. | ||
| I'm very angry. | ||
| James Fisher says, Tim, I'm always a day behind because I listen to you on Spotify. | ||
| Please stop referring to an AR as an assault rifle. | ||
| There is no such thing. | ||
| That's just causing fear around these weapons. | ||
| AR stands for armor light rifle. | ||
| Cheers, brother. | ||
| Great show. | ||
| I am triggered by this because I have never referred to an AR-15 as an assault rifle. | ||
| An M16, correct me if I'm wrong, Luke, is an assault rifle. | ||
| A select fire rifle. | ||
| Now, there are a lot of people who say, Assault Rifle doesn't exist, Select Fire Rifles are called Select Fire Rifles. | ||
| If you pull up the colloquial breakdown, most people will define Assault Rifle as, I think it actually came from Nazi Germany, where the term comes from. | ||
| It refers to Select Fire, so it's full-auto bursts and semi-automatic. | ||
| One pull, one, you know. | ||
| I've never said AR stands for Assault Rifle. | ||
| I know what an Armalite Rifle is. | ||
| There are a bunch of different kinds. | ||
| You think that ArmaLite should change the name of their company? | ||
| No. | ||
| Is ArmaLite even a company? | ||
| Is ArmaLite still a company? | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| It was back in the day, ArmaLite made a bunch of different kinds of weapons. | ||
| Isn't there like an AR-12 and things like that? | ||
| I'm not the biggest gun person, but I certainly never called an ArmaLite rifle an assault rifle. | ||
| I've made references to legitimate assault rifles by saying, not a single person in Kenosha was armed with an assault rifle. | ||
| Yeah, it was founded in the 50s, ArmaLite Inc., and then ended in the 80s. | ||
| I am not the biggest gun expert in the world, but I've at least done the Google search. | ||
| We live in this weird, what do you call it, simulacrum where I think if they did change the name of the weapons to like a ZR, like a 120 or something, they'd stop thinking they were assault rifles. | ||
| They'd stop arguing it. | ||
| Like, here's the funny thing. | ||
| When they're like, no one should have an AR-15, and it's just like, you know how many guns there are that aren't AR-15 or AR-15 style, that are semi-automatic rifles with magazines and function identical? | ||
| It's the weirdest thing. | ||
| They know so little about it. | ||
| There's tons of weapons where you put an interchangeable magazine with a drum or, you know, whatever, and it's semi-automatic. | ||
| During the jury selection, didn't one woman, they asked her, like, do you have an issue with an AR-15 or a gun like this? | ||
| And she was like, I don't think anyone should own a machine gun. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Oh. | |
| That's right. | ||
| And here's the best part, there was a guy who was like, I don't think I would be a fair juror because I believe in the right to bear arms. | ||
| And it's like, that doesn't make you an unfair juror. | ||
| The Constitution says you get to do this, and you judge people as a peer accordingly. | ||
| I swear, conservatives, man. | ||
| I wonder if he was just trying to get out of jury duty. | ||
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That's true, that's true. | |
| Alright, let's see. | ||
| SFC Retired says the AR platform is ambidextrous. | ||
| It has a brass deflector for left-handed shooters. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| That's an important point too. | ||
| And other people have mentioned that you can put a deflector as well if you don't have one. | ||
| But my point is, I just did a Google search. | ||
| First of all, I know I have, um... I can't remember the name. | ||
| I have a 9mm Makarov handgun from, like, the 60s. | ||
| A Cold War weapon. | ||
| It's Polish. | ||
| And it is only right-handed. | ||
| The way the grip is shaped, you put it in your left hand, and it, like, pushes into your palm, and it's really difficult to hold. | ||
| And I gotta be honest, Soviet weapons, they don't feel good to fire. | ||
| It hurts. | ||
| It bites, you know? | ||
| It's just not fun. | ||
| And whenever we go to the range, everyone's like, I'm not going to use that one. | ||
| And I'm like, but it's, it's Makarov. | ||
| It's, you know, what was it? | ||
| Nine by 18, I think. | ||
| So it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's unique Soviet. | ||
| Nobody wants to do it. | ||
| Anyway, I digress. | ||
| It's a right-handed weapon. | ||
| And so I did a simple Google search to look and there's, they have designed left-handed weapons where it ejects the other side. | ||
| And I even watched a video of a guy who had right eye damage. | ||
| So he, but he was right-handed. | ||
| So he has a special gun that uses his left eye and it loops around in the other direction. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I think it's a P-64. | ||
| Yeah, P-64? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Is that what it's called? | ||
| You look it up? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I have two of them actually. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're not fun to fire. | ||
| They're not fun. | ||
| Both right-handed? | ||
| Or are they all right-handed? | ||
| They're all right-handed, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| They were, like, designed that way. | ||
| And the funny thing is, I'm like, this is such a Soviet weapon. | ||
| It works. | ||
| It hurts. | ||
| But I'm sure the Soviets didn't care. | ||
| Do I care about your personal comfort? | ||
| No. | ||
| Here's a gun. | ||
| Like, I guess, you know, I don't know if this is true, but my understanding is that they mass-produced in World War II really, really awful garbage tanks. | ||
| But a lot of them. | ||
| I've heard that too. | ||
| And they were like, they would be easily taken out, but there was just too many. | ||
| And so they just overran. | ||
| Strength in numbers. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Zap Brannigan approach. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that sounds like the Soviet strategy. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| BC says, did anybody see the footage showing that Rittenhouse did not point the weapon? | ||
| On Gab, quote, new FBI infrared video blows Kyle Rittenhouse prosecutor's case into a million pieces. | ||
| I watched a lot of that footage. | ||
| And people did like graphic overlays and they broke down, they did like outlines. | ||
| And I gotta admit, those videos are very accurate. | ||
| I wonder if the defense is using social media decentralization as a tool in this, because they should've. | ||
| That'd be smart, yeah. | ||
| So, in this video, at least one of them I watched, you can clearly see this blurry figure, but you can see the way he's moving when he runs, and you can tell he's facing forward. | ||
| They then say, if he is facing forward, they draw an outline around how he's holding his weapon, and at no point did he ever point it at anybody. | ||
| What they're trying to argue is that his arm being up when he was pointing the gun down, which is, you know, muzzle control, they were trying to argue that the gun going up, because it was a thin pixel line, was actually him left-handed like this. | ||
| Pointing the weapon at other people instead of pointing it down. | ||
| And didn't Kyle testify? | ||
| Oh, I'm pointing my gun down. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I love it when the prosecution was like, here you are pointing your weapon at Gage Grosskreutz, whose hands are up. | ||
| And then Kyle goes, This is actually just a freeze frame. | ||
| If you play the video, I'm actually lowering my weapon. | ||
| They pause the video while he's lowering his weapon and say, look, you're pointing it at him. | ||
| And it's like, play the video and he's going like, he's pointing it down! | ||
| I gotta say too, when they played the video in slow motion, after Rittenhouse, you know, is rolling on the ground in turns towards Gage Grosskreutz, I was surprised at the discipline. | ||
| I'll say it always, like, I wish it didn't happen. | ||
| I don't think Kyle should have been there for a variety of reasons. | ||
| I know there's a lot of people who think he should have been there. | ||
| I just... I don't think any of them should have been there, is the point. | ||
| Not just Kyle. | ||
| But, Kyle rolls on the ground, and as he's rolling, immediately aims perfectly towards the guy with the Glock pointed at him. | ||
| And then lowers his weapon almost immediately. | ||
| He disabled the arm that was holding the weapon. | ||
| It's crazy, right? | ||
| He's extremely accurate. | ||
| Like, he did one shot, one shot, one shot. | ||
| Of course, with Rosenbaum, he fired four shots all into the body. | ||
| In 0.7 seconds. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Really impressive. | ||
| That's like a fight for your life. | ||
| Well, it's... I struggle to be positive in this regards. | ||
| Like, impressive in the sense that he restrained himself to a resounding degree. | ||
| And it must be stated. | ||
| And the defense mentioned this, but should have drilled it home. | ||
| After he fires on Grosskreutz and Grosskreutz runs away, multiple gunshots are fired and Rittenhouse calmly lowers his weapon, turns around and starts walking. | ||
| He doesn't return fire. | ||
| There's a guy with a weapon standing right next to him. | ||
| He doesn't run at him. | ||
| He doesn't attack him. | ||
| He immediately goes back to getting to the police with his hands up. | ||
| I don't know if he was actually there legally has been acknowledged he was concussed but it sounds like yeah took some head trauma on the run and then he passed out according to his testimony passed out on the way and that's when they hit him with the skateboard for the second time is it it's confirmed that it was the guy's right hand right arm right gross course had the pistol on his right arm yeah what what what we talked about on Friday but I think if you miss it you got to hear it the prosecution was like But Mr. Rittenhouse, Gage Grosskreutz had a gun. | ||
| He could have shot you from 40 or 50 feet away. | ||
| So, he wasn't a threat to you. | ||
| And Kyle was like, he had a gun pointed at my head. | ||
| If it were me, I'd say... | ||
| For those that don't understand handguns, like yourself, Mr. Binger, someone like Gage Grosskreutz, who probably doesn't have extensive firearms training, I can't make that assumption, but in the heat of the moment while running, the likelihood that somebody is going to actually make contact with a handgun is very, very low. | ||
| So the fact is that because he was running at me with the weapon, I understand handguns have been to the range and know how they work. | ||
| My assumption was he knew he couldn't make the shot unless he got point-blank. | ||
| So as soon as he ran up to me, that was actually the bigger threat. | ||
| In fact, I would say this. | ||
| When he was at 40 or 50 feet, you're right, he could've shot me. | ||
| And the reason I didn't fire on him is because I knew he would've missed. | ||
| But once he closed that distance and pointed the gun at my head from about 3 feet away, that's when he wasn't gonna miss and I had no choice but to fire to defend myself and stop that threat. | ||
| The defense didn't bring that up. | ||
| Hindsight is 20-20, and it's really easy for me to be some, like, armchair spectator with popcorn going, like, I KNOW BETTER THAN THE LAWYERS! | ||
| But I think that would've been a very powerful statement, like, you're right, he could've shot me from 40 feet away. | ||
| But I didn't shoot him because I thought he would miss and he wasn't a threat until he closed that distance and I had no choice. | ||
| Let's do a couple more here. | ||
| We'll do a couple more. | ||
| We got a lot of people. | ||
| people. Here we go. Home B says the Kenosha Police Department must suck if it takes a | ||
| 17 year old kid to go into a situation with an AR and a fanny pack and a med kit to stop | ||
| fires and pretend to be an EMT. Why warn the police out there? | ||
| Like, I know they were further away, and this is a tactic they use, but the police... Look, they're calling out the National Guard right now. | ||
| Why didn't they do that on the night in question? | ||
| It was day three of the riots? | ||
| Yeah, I could understand why night one, they were totally unprepared, outnumbered, weren't ready for this. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Night two, it was the same thing. | ||
| The riot was continuing. | ||
| I don't have an explanation as to why. | ||
| I just know a lot of people that were local that during that time were asking the same questions. | ||
| Where's law enforcement in this? | ||
| They seem to be outnumbered. | ||
| They seem to be really not taking care of this the way that they should. | ||
| Now, let us remind ourselves this was 2020 in the midst of the race riots where police officers and police departments were probably afraid to do anything, especially even Portland, That's a whole other story where Portland police had literally had their hands tied behind their backs they couldn't they have riot training and they weren't even allowed to do it because they uh the mayor wasn't allowing them because they didn't want to cause any more race riots even though they were just continuing so I don't I I'm not saying that's what happened in Kenosha but I this was kind of like the mentality in 2020 with police departments so | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| It wasn't the mentality. There was police departments told to stand down. | ||
| And they stood down based on those orders. | ||
| And they said, well, let the city burn. | ||
| We're given specific orders. We're not going to intervene. | ||
| And we're just going to watch a lot of this happen. And they did. | ||
| So that aspect of it is the crazy, chilling aspect that should be remembered. | ||
| Let's do one more. | ||
| It's a really important one. | ||
| Richard Thibaud says, Binger aimed the gun at the jury to bait the defense. | ||
| He was trying to get a reaction and a response out of Richards. | ||
| It's good that Richards didn't fall for it. | ||
| It's a good point. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| If he aimed the gun at the jury and the defense said, whoa, whoa, you can't do that. | ||
| Binger would have been like, oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm just doing what your defendant did. | ||
| You take objection to what I was doing, but you're claiming that what he did wasn't wrong? | ||
| It was smart not to react. | ||
| Literally yes, but okay. | ||
| I still think it's crazy that the Taliban has better trigger discipline than a state prosecutor. | ||
| It's just ridiculous that we're at this level, and who knows whether this was 3D chess. | ||
| I don't agree. | ||
| I think this was a guy who was chicken-winging the thing, and didn't know what he was doing, and had, you know, a scary Assault Rifle, quote Assault Rifle, again I'm being facetious here, in his hands and wanted to play up on the drama and emotions of it. | ||
| We went to a range, this was a while ago, this was probably beginning of, this was probably almost last year, and I had an AK and I immediately picked it up and went like that with my elbow and Luke was like, get that chicken wing out of here! | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| He's like, pull it! | ||
| I was like, oh yeah, sorry, I got it. | ||
| I gotta get more practice, but that was a while ago. | ||
| I've done better. | ||
| We went to the range with Forrest Cooper from Recoil. | ||
| He gave me a lot of good pointers. | ||
| Really, really helped improve my accuracy with the handgun and with the rifle and stuff. | ||
| He knows what he's doing. | ||
| Practicing is important, and it's a lot of fun. | ||
| But knowledge! | ||
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Knowledge! | |
| When he explained to me certain basics, I was like, oh wow, these are things I needed to hear one time. | ||
| I need to master, but it really does help. | ||
| He is fantastically knowledgeable. | ||
| He was helping me. | ||
| He was teaching me all about door breaches and the different types of door breaches that they would use. | ||
| Incredibly. | ||
| Great teacher. | ||
| Just fantastic information. | ||
| Had him last week. | ||
| Check out that show from Friday. | ||
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| Drew freaking Hernandez, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
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| The people have spoken. | ||
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It's gonna be an Austin Battle Royale. | |
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