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Sept. 10, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL #369 - Biden Decrees Vaccine Mandate Nationwide In INSANE Power Grab w/Joey Salads

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join YouTuber and commentator Joey Salads to examine Joe Biden's new iron fist for vaccine requirements, Biden's failures in the polling, his vows to use presidential fiat as an attempt to distract from his failure in Afghanistan, the ways verified leftist influencers on social media actively work against the American system of governance, and why Biden chose to exempt USPS employees from the vaccine mandates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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ian crossland
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joey salads
35:17
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tim pool
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lydia smith
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josh hammer
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tim pool
Holy mother... Wow.
That's all I have to say to open this segment up.
I did not see this coming.
Joe Biden, earlier it was announced he was going to be issuing some vaccine mandates.
And that's him going back on his word because he said last year it wasn't going to happen, we weren't going to do passports, we weren't going to do forced vaccination.
Jen Psaki said something recently, I think only a couple months ago.
And the word came out that Joe Biden was going to implement some mandates.
Well, of course, the rumor was he was going to mandate federal employees and contractors to get vaccinated.
That is massive because of so many companies that contract with the federal government.
They're going to sever those contracts, lay people off, or mandate vaccines.
And that's on par with what we've been seeing from a lot of executives, mandating their employees get vaccinated.
The one thing I did say in my earlier segment was that Joe Biden does not have the authority to mandate anything else beyond that.
He can't just mandate private businesses, mandate vaccines, mandate the mandate.
Well, Joe Biden did because he is a psychopathic tyrant and he is a crackpot authoritarian.
And this is not, this is no joke how bad this is.
I think, you know, there are certain things you can look back on in terms of egregious executive decrees like Japanese internment camps and suspension of habeas corpus and things like that.
This is definitely on par with one of the most brazen things we've seen from a president because it's not just one thing.
Joe Biden has bypassed the legislative branch on more than one occasion with the eviction moratorium.
Then he violated the Supreme Court.
He violated the judicial branch and the legislative branch by doing it again.
The Supreme Court once again intervening.
Joe Biden now has completely bypassed the legislative branch by trying to enact by decree that businesses under a new OSHA rule mandate vaccinations for everyone, for all their employees if they have at least 100 employees.
All right, well, I'll say this.
We here at TimCast.com, we do not have more than 100 employees, and it's hard to say whether or not we're close to it, but probably within the next year or so, I anticipated that we would be around there, but I'll say it's regardless.
I will not comply.
Do what you want, say what you want, it ain't happening.
I got my van down by the river if need be, but I'm gonna stand up, I'm gonna say no, and I'll ride this ship as long as we can.
There are a few moments in these past couple of years that have been genuinely shocking.
One of the first, because I've seen a lot of things in my days traveling around the world.
One of the most shocking things I saw, I remember in the basement, you know, back in March, Donald, I think it was March, Donald Trump making a statement about restricting travel to Europe, or, I can't remember exactly what was said, and I was like, wow.
Like, this is serious, what's going on with this COVID stuff.
What Joe Biden did today, I did not believe would happen, I did not expect, and it is one of the most despotic, psychotic, authoritarian things we've ever seen.
It is a thousand orders of magnitude worse than anything Trump ever did.
We'll see if this stands up to scrutiny, but considering that Joe Biden's already bypassed the judicial branch and the legislative branch on more than one occasion, it seems likely he's going to try and make this stick.
Will it?
Maybe not.
So maybe this is just Joe Biden sabotaging any chance the Democrats are going to have in 2022 and 2024.
Because I tell you this, you go to rural people in swing states and tell them, we will say no to this and we will end it, and they're going to vote for you without question.
They don't care what your policies are.
You can tell them that with all the taxpayer dollars, we're going to build a moon base made of cheese to harvest moon cheese.
And they're going to be like, and you're going to shut down this mandate stuff?
I'll vote for you.
Let's get into all this stuff.
Let's let's stop me from ranting.
It's just it's that dark.
Joining us today is Joey Salads.
joey salads
Thank you for having me.
tim pool
Pull your mic down a little bit.
Point it at your mouth.
joey salads
Is that good?
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
Yeah, just talking to it.
unidentified
Excellent.
joey salads
You got me wanting some of that moon cheese now.
unidentified
What kind of cheese is that, by the way?
tim pool
You can't have my moon cheese, bro.
joey salads
It looked so good in that Wallace and Gromit skit.
lydia smith
I know, right?
tim pool
What, was there really a Wallace and Gromit skit about moon cheese?
joey salads
Yeah.
lydia smith
There wasn't.
tim pool
I'm just saying, you know, people are gonna be like, this dude's lost the plot.
We got anybody else.
This is gonna be a Republican- What?
I'll tell you, if it's not a Republican sweep, we're doomed.
And I don't even like the Republicans.
And I don't even think the Republicans are going to do much, but I'm talking about the insurgent, you know.
But anyway, introduce yourself, Joey.
unidentified
Who are you?
joey salads
What are you doing?
I'm Joey Salads.
I go by Joey Saladino now.
And yeah, I've been doing YouTube for a pretty long time.
I guess I partially retired from doing that.
Now I'm mostly just chilling, handling business.
And now I'm here.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Thanks for coming on.
We got Ian.
ian crossland
Thanks, Tim.
Good to see you, Joe.
joey salads
Good to see you.
ian crossland
Always good to see you in town, man!
Well, let's get through these intros, because I'm freaking out about this.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm a little bit concerned about this, and I'm curious.
Hopefully we can come up with something positive in this.
We'll see.
tim pool
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You know, it's really funny is this is so serious.
I'm even seeing reddit kind of like, you know, go, you know, you know, reddit full of bots and apologists for authoritarianism are like, this one's kind of crazy because the president doesn't have the.
Anyway, share the video.
Let's let's let's let's save it.
Let's actually get into the news.
Here it is from the Associated Press.
Sweeping new vaccine mandates for 100 million Americans.
The AP reports, in his most forceful pandemic actions and words, President Joe Biden on Thursday announced sweeping new federal vaccine requirements affecting as many as 100 million Americans in an all-out effort to increase COVID-19 vaccinations and curb the surging Delta variant.
It's not just the new OSHA requirement.
They say the expansive rules mandate that all employers with more than 100 workers require them to be vaccinated or test for the virus weekly, affecting about 80 million Americans.
And the roughly 17 million workers at health facilities that receive federal Medicare and Medicaid will also have to be fully vaccinated.
There's also going to be a requirement for all employees of the executive branch and contractors who do business with the federal government.
But boy, If you watch this guy speak on TV, this was an iron fist moment.
He said he's going to just, I'll paraphrase here, but just push through any Republican governor who tries to oppose his executive decree.
We've got bread tube socialists, these crackpot authoritarian lunatics, cheering for rule by decree.
True color is shown.
Mask slips off.
How about that?
When we called them communists and they said, we're democratic socialists.
We just want to vote for the power.
And then once they vote for their guy and he slams the gavel on the table and says, you know, we, we, we, it's like the emperor in Star Wars, the, the, the, the attempt to get to bypass the Senate and Congress.
Not really surprised at all.
But it's crazy.
You're not surprised?
we got a lot going on but we should just definitely talk about this the funny
thing here I think is that unions are like whoa whoa whoa whoa you know we got
it we got to negotiate on this one but I don't know guys is it any surprise that
actually I think it is a surprise but we know what are your thoughts on Joe Biden
joey salads
just going full fascist not really surprised at all but it's crazy it's it's
not surprised come on you get whatever the That is true, it was the Democrat governors.
getting since day one, especially when COVID happened.
We never thought that they would be locking us in our homes for several months.
And they did exactly that.
tim pool
So yeah, but that was under Trump, right?
When we had that, that is true.
joey salads
It was a Democrat governor, it was a Democrat governors, even Republican.
Yeah.
Trump opposed it, but Trump gave the rights to the state, which I was, I was kind of on
the fence about having the states have those rights to remove our constitutional rights.
Shouldn't that be the job of the federal government to then step in and preserve our constitutional rights against Democrat-governor tyrants?
tim pool
Well, no, no.
The federal government is constantly trying to infringe on our rights.
And we have this shield in the Constitution that is stopping them from doing it.
But at this point, it's like, you know, Joe Biden with the eviction moratorium bypassed the legislative branch.
Supreme Court said, hey, you can't do this.
And he went, I'll do it anyway, thus bypassing the Supreme Court and Congress, which is just basically the executive has gone nuts with power and he should be impeached immediately.
The problem is, You know, we're supposed to have this mechanism in place to remove despots and tyrants, impeachment.
They try to impeach Trump over nothing.
It's like he made a phone call and they're like, get rid of him!
It's insane.
And then January 6th, it's just, it's insane.
And now you actually have an off-the-rails, insane, demented psychopath And you can't impeach him because the Democrats won't do it because they like it.
They like the power.
They want it.
They support it.
joey salads
Even if they do impeach him, it's not gonna do any good because then you just got Kamala Harris and it's probably the same exact people.
You impeach her too.
Then who do you get next?
Pelosi?
tim pool
You impeach her too.
Then you get Chuck Grassley.
joey salads
I would love to do... I would... We gotta kind of also be realistic.
Let's just... It's just not gonna happen.
Especially with the Democrats in charge.
You know, I feel like there's a lot of Republican representatives out there who are pushing for impeachment.
I think Taylor Greene probably filed at least 12 different impeachments since she took office eight months ago.
It's all just fan service at this point, all this impeachment stuff.
And I forgot who said it.
One of the Republicans said it.
If you want to impeach Biden, focus on the midterms.
So at the very least, focus on the midterms.
tim pool
I really want to hire 70 people just so that we can have 100 workers and I can, you know, but we don't have that many people here.
We have like 30 employees.
joey salads
Is there a loophole?
Can you hire people as independent contractors?
tim pool
I don't know if that would count.
You know, but I can just hire 100 hourly workers to, you know, mow the lawn with scissors.
ian crossland
There are a hundred people that work from home in a hundred different areas of the world and they're going to be like, that's more of a threat that people need to be vaccinated than 30 people in a room together.
This idiocy, these blanket decisions about numbers and people aren't robots.
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tim pool
This is one of the biggest responses that I'm seeing from a lot of people.
It's like, wait a minute.
We've got work from home.
We've got COVID mandates.
People are already working remote.
And now in your own home, they're mandating you be vaccinated.
ian crossland
That makes no sense.
That's really off.
joey salads
It's nothing about safety.
It's nothing about actually keeping you safe.
It's all about, they just want to remove any unvaccinated person from being able to function in society to force you to get the vaccine as much as possible without them actually coming to your house and jabbing you.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, I think the actual goal here is just to cause the U.S.
system, the U.S.
government, to collapse completely.
ian crossland
It was happening anyway.
The printing of money was destroying our economy and this is basically a... I don't know if it's a mask?
To do it?
tim pool
But but whatever it's just another reason it's outside of the money thing what I'm talking about is we are we are
seeing unprecedented Strain on states on the federal government on localities.
We are seeing shootouts, you know in the Pacific Northwest conflict in the streets and
There's no way something this Fascistic could pass muster. It's it's
It's going to get, I mean, they're going to get sued to oblivion.
Every Republican state's going to file a suit.
Republican states are going to start telling all of their, the companies within their states, ignore this.
They can't do it.
And then they're going to say, we will not comply with the federal government.
So what are you going to do about it?
This never could work.
This idea would never happen.
There's no way West Virginia is going to be like, well, I don't know, Biden said it.
There's no way Texas is going to be like...
Unfortunately, we're beholden to Biden.
You think Ron DeSantis?
So what's the outcome of this?
All it did is it's going to force red states to make declarations against the federal government in some capacity, whether it be sovereignty, and we've seen that in the past, or sanctuary decrees or whatever.
It is just destroying the bonds that keep this country together.
joey salads
I worry that the federal government, the way they're going to probably try to enforce this over businesses, Are they going to start freezing people's bank accounts, removing the money from their account?
And I'm not like the biggest crypto guy or I'm trying to promote crypto onto people.
But I do feel like if eventually society starts pushing to this world of more you know, crypto, having crypto wallets, a crypto bank
account, stuff that's decentralized, off the grid, off the, like, you know, if you have a bank
account with Citibank or whatever bank, the government could just step in and they've done it
to me when I forgot to pay certain taxes and they just take money out, freeze the
account, done, like, okay, and they're going to start doing it. We're going to see
that happen with companies that are unvaccinated. They're going to just take your money and
take it out.
tim pool
It's a $14,000 fine per violation.
joey salads
And one of the things we've always seen throughout history is typically when there's a big revolution
that's brewing or a civil resistance brewing, it's usually a currency starts to split.
And usually, you know, we've seen it throughout American history, too.
I believe some states had their own currencies at some points.
And I'm not trying to push crypto on people, but I feel like cryptocurrency is kind of that push to the new currency, where let's just say Florida does secede from the Union.
If you're on the U.S.
dollar, the federal government can just screw with Florida beyond belief.
But if it's all in Bitcoin, they can't take it.
tim pool
This is why they hate Bitcoin.
It's an escape.
It's a way out of their system.
$14,000 per violation.
It's the OSHA rule.
If they say you have to get vaccinated or a weekly test.
I think it's really funny, because I tweeted, I will not comply.
And the response from everybody was, you don't even have 100 employees, you're exempt.
And I'm like, yo, I'm saying in general, dude, they're going insane with this stuff.
We'll have 100 employees by this time next year, or maybe we won't.
Maybe all that happens now, Is companies start saying, instead of just hiring everybody under one company, we make a new company that does a different job.
Oh, you got a media production company?
Well, your graphic design should just be under a new company called Magic Graphic Design, and you contract them.
And all of a sudden, you're breaking your company up.
ian crossland
According to this rule, you can have 1,000 people in the same building with 10,000 companies, or 1,000 companies, and that's way safer than having 100 people spread across the world under one company.
tim pool
According to this idiot.
There would at some point be the IRS being like, hey, this is kind of messed up, you can't do that.
ian crossland
If there were a thousand people, each owned their own company, all working together in one room, that's a lot more viral load than a hundred employees in one company across the world working from home.
joey salads
This is the thing is, what you just said, what you would do in a month or two months from now, if you did end up doing that, if that was the thing people said, they'll just rewrite it.
Rewrite the bill, rewrite the law.
So if you as an individual are paying people or you as an individual own several companies that amassed, you know... They can't do that.
They'll do it.
It's the Democrats.
tim pool
They definitely wouldn't do that because that would destroy all of their big donors.
So when they're saying vaccine mandate, you think Pepsi cares?
But going in and then saying, we're now going to start administering businesses based on the individual involved, they'd be like, whoa, we got shell company after shell company, something in Panama, something in Bahamas.
Nah, none of that.
There's another interesting thing, though.
A lot of people may have missed this one because it wasn't big news, but there was an alert put out by this Community Banking Association, this group, that the IRS wants, they want any transaction, $600 or more, to be tracked by the banks.
It used to be, I think, like $10,000, or it might have been like $6,000 or something.
$600 now.
ian crossland
Any deposit?
Not withdrawals, just deposits?
tim pool
Anything.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
Anything.
ian crossland
Anytime you pull money out?
tim pool
Anything!
ian crossland
That's nuts.
Anytime you check your account?
tim pool
I said over $600.
Okay, okay.
ian crossland
Anytime money gets moved.
tim pool
Yes, over $600.
They want to be able to track it.
ian crossland
If you move it from a savings account to your own checking account?
unidentified
Yes.
Wow.
tim pool
That's an account transfer.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yup!
I don't think people realize how bad it's about to get.
And I think we're not long for YouTube.
I think, you know, that time is coming.
I think a lot of big channels are... Look, the faster they implement these things, the faster they implement these things.
I mean, look, it was December when Joe Biden said no mandatory vaccinations.
It was July, I think, when Psaki said we don't think the vaccine should be mandatory.
Now look where we're at.
ian crossland
Now we have Delta version which is less deadly but more transmissible from what I've learned.
tim pool
We have Lambda, Epsilon and Mu.
ian crossland
And he's doing a vaccine, this is a vaccine mandate for the Delta variant, according to this article.
But firstly, from what I know, no vaccines are made for the Delta variant that are out yet.
joey salads
It's not even about, it's not about safety.
Like, I get what you're saying.
unidentified
You're right.
joey salads
You're probably right about almost everything that you're saying about, you know, people in a building, vaccines for- it's not even- none of that even matters.
It's not even about that when it comes to what these Democrat lawmakers are- what they're mandating and deciding.
It has nothing to do with the basis in science at all.
tim pool
No, we're so far beyond acting like what the Democrats, the government, and the neocons, the Republican establishment, we're so far beyond them acting in accordance to norms and laws and what we expect.
They are just operating with impunity.
That's it. Now to be fair, the Republican establishment is basically just a pressure
release valve for Americans. So when a bunch of Americans are getting fed up and angry with
this, they'll be like, I'm going to vote Republican. And the Republicans will be like,
we're going to push back on this. And then Lindsey Graham will walk over and high five Kamala.
Congratulations.
Welcome to the country with the Uniparty.
joey salads
Another thing I don't like to see, and it's coming from Greg Abbott, DeSantis, and a lot of I'll call, I guess, emotional conservatives on the internet, and they're seeing what the left is doing, the Democrats are doing.
They're mandating vaccines.
They're using the arm of the federal government or their state governments to demand everybody get a vaccine.
But then I'm watching the inverse happen as a reaction to that, and we're seeing a lot of conservatives Saying, let's mandate no vaccine.
Like, businesses can't mandate vaccines at all, and I'm watching this inverse of, I guess, fascism occurring, where it's like two sides of this fascist coin going on, and they're both being cheered by their own side, and I think that could be something incredibly dangerous.
tim pool
I disagree.
ian crossland
Yeah, counter-dependence.
tim pool
I disagree.
When the Republicans say, you as a business can't mandate vaccines, I think that's a broad, non-discriminatory policy.
We have tons of policies affecting businesses about who they can't discriminate against.
joey salads
So that's quite simple.
That's the thing is, if you're, for instance, in Texas, in Austin, Texas, there were two restaurants that were requiring their customers to have vaccines.
And I guess they were operating fine.
The government of Texas came in and said, we're going to pull your liquor license if you keep requiring this.
So I'm assuming they probably stopped requiring it.
Now they're going to do all the lawsuits.
That was two restaurants in an entire state or city that had no type of vaccine mandate.
And I'm watching- But the businesses did.
The businesses did.
tim pool
And it was right of the government to shut down that discrimination.
joey salads
And the government was shutting it down, I guess, for discrimination.
unidentified
Good.
joey salads
But where I come in saying is, I believe that should be up to the free market to decide if a business that requires vaccine should be able to survive or not.
Let's just say you're an old person.
Let's just say you're high high risk.
Let's say you're a crazy leftist living in your little bubble inside your house with a mask with several vaccines in your arms and you want to go outside and you live in Texas and you're seeing all these rising numbers of COVID cases.
You're seeing all these deaths and you want to go somewhere where you feel safe.
Should they have a right to patron a business that requires vaccines?
tim pool
Do you think the government should have stepped in to enforce desegregation at private businesses?
joey salads
I don't think my opinion when it comes to a lot of this stuff I would say when it comes to segregation maybe around color that's a different area because I mean obviously you can't change anything about your your personal your physical appearance but what always gets me when it comes to the health reason it's like obviously you have a choice whether to get vaccinated or not and It's also that ideology, you kind of got to adjust it, where there's a lot of conservatives saying they shouldn't be able to discriminate against your health.
They shouldn't be able to discriminate against if you're vaccinated or not.
But at the same time, if you use, I don't like to strawman, but I think it's important to hold that belief constant in a bunch of different situations.
Say someone was showing up to your restaurant and they had visible leprosy, their skin peeling off the bone, and they're trying to get in.
You can't discriminate against me because of my health.
Let me in.
Well, you're gonna get everybody sick if you come in.
Your skin's falling off the bone.
tim pool
That's what the judiciary is for.
So, if we say, like, look, there's gotta be some limits on public health and safety, and there's areas where you can't discriminate, whether or not someone is vaccinated or unvaccinated is between their doctors, and if the vaccines provide protection for the individual, then you shouldn't be worried about what other people are doing.
joey salads
The issue here is that what the Democrats and what Biden want is for everyone to be vaccinated because they're like, that's how we return to normal.
Everyone has to do it.
It's not about the individual.
tim pool
vaccines work.
And it's like, well, then that's their problem, I guess.
Maybe they should go to a doctor and talk about this and maybe they wouldn't be in the hospital if they had some good medical advice.
How about that?
How about it's none of your business what they decide to do?
Here's the problem with the vaccine mandates.
Some places, like New York, no medical exemptions.
unidentified
None.
tim pool
For no reason.
So if you're someone who's got a disability or some existing condition and you can't get vaccinated, you're out.
This mandate from Joe Biden, it's going to force people to get COVID tests every single week.
This is putting a mandate that's going to put undue pressure.
You got businesses fining people, charging them money.
Now let's say you have no clean exemption, but the FDA says that right now data on pregnancy is insufficient to inform someone on the risks.
This is the community vaccine.
They say data on pregnancy is insufficient to inform on the risks.
They don't know.
And the FDA approval says that there is no long-term data on the community vaccine because they've just entered those late stage trials and that will be coming later on.
So if you are someone who talks to your doctor, and maybe you have a history of anaphylaxis, maybe you've had Guillain-Barre syndrome in the past, and your doctor says, well, you know, to be honest, I think you should get it.
I won't bar you from getting it, but that's going to be up to you.
And then you as an individual have to weigh the probabilities of whether or not you will take the risk for this reason.
Pregnancy is a big one because I believe it's the CDC said it is safe for pregnant women to take the vaccine.
However, the FDA for the FDA approved community says that data is insufficient to inform on the risks but they think it's safe, right?
Basically they have no data and they're assuming it's safe.
So if you're a pregnant woman you might be like, I'm not comfortable with that.
Too bad, no exemption.
That's it.
Now these businesses, if they start doing it one by one, they're discriminating against people.
I understand your point that it's like two small businesses.
joey salads
Yeah, I would say that's the thing is, when it comes into that situation, there's the free market that decides.
Where if there is, let's just say in this hypothetical world, you're in a town, there's no mandates at all when it comes to anything vaccine.
And all these businesses are starting to require vaccine mandates to enter every single business.
And then let's say you have a large swap of that population that is not vaccinated.
In the market of supply and demand, there's going to be businesses that are going to appeal and, you know, be created or be adjusted for the people who are unvaccinated because there's a large market share of people who need to patron businesses and they don't have businesses to patron.
So that's why I believe the free market is that, sorts that stuff out.
tim pool
It didn't, the reason why the government had to physically enforce desegregation is that the free market was not figuring it out.
Is that it was actually, people had no incentive to change.
There was this famous story about, I think it was Lyndon Johnson, and he had several black men who worked for him, and they would drive his car and his dog down, I think it was Texas or whatever, I can't remember the exact details.
Or no, they would drive his car and then one time he asked him, can you bring my dog with you?
And they were like, no.
It's hard enough to find anywhere to go to get service.
Let alone having a dog with us would be impossible.
And he was like, what do you mean?
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
And they were like, yo, driving through the South, there's no businesses for people based on your race.
Like it's all, the free market wasn't solving for that.
It was creating serious problems.
joey salads
I think race is a different situation.
Just cause especially when you're dealing with stuff back then.
I mean, if there was any segregated places nowadays, like no black people, we do have segregated businesses now.
If you think about it, there's all these LA super, you know, tech companies popping up where they specifically don't hire white males.
You know, we have all these dating websites specifically for Jews, specifically for minorities, specifically for this, and no one bats an eye, really.
No one really cares.
Okay, that's a business for that type of person, business for these types of people, especially as you enter the tech age.
You can kind of target people based on what your needs are.
But I guess from the point where I'm coming from is in Texas, where there was no mandates at all, no mandates in either direction, there was only two restaurants that really popped up requiring vaccines.
tim pool
In Austin, probably.
joey salads
In Austin, yeah.
And I bet you they were probably getting business, I could assume, because if they're the only two in that market share, and let's just say there's 50% of the population there that is vaccinated, they might be seeking vaccinated places.
And I believe it should be their right, if they're scared, sick, old, or dying, to be able to go to a place where they can feel safe.
I think all of this... If you don't want to, go somewhere else.
tim pool
I think all of this, regardless, I think Joe Biden's psychotic behavior, his inability to speak, his handlers, whatever, and his decree... Let me show you what's happening.
Biden vows to take on GOP governors over schools.
Yeah, he didn't just say that, he says, get them out of the way.
Right now, local school officials are trying to keep children safe in a pandemic while the governor picks a fight with them and even threatens their salaries or their jobs.
Talk about bullying in schools, Biden said in remarks to the White House.
If they'll not help, if these governors won't help us beat the pandemic, I'll use my power
as president to get them out of the way.
I think I think there's like a ninth and a 10th amendment about that one that you can't
do that Joe Biden.
joey salads
I think I think it was a few weeks ago, the Biden administration said that they were going
to fund the schools that get defunded over mask mandates.
So the Santa's was saying we're going to defund these schools because you're requiring masks.
That's no good.
And then I think the Biden administration said that they were going to work to fund those schools, whatever was defunded.
tim pool
Governor Kristi Noem said, South Dakota will stand up to defend freedom.
Joe Biden see you in court.
All Joe Biden did with these decrees was, it was a shot across the bow to red states, forcing them to assert their positions in defiance of the federal government.
These mandates, these threats, getting them out of the way, all of that stuff, It's absurd.
It's not going to happen.
The Feds are not going to be able to go into Texas and start going business to business knocking on doors and trying to figure things out.
Now, there's taxes.
That's where they might get you with the IRS.
joey salads
And the currency.
That's all that comes down to at the end of the day.
They don't have the manpower, really, and they wouldn't...
be able to logistically go to every single business every door but what they can do is click a few
buttons on the computer and lock all your bank accounts. I think that's what it pretty much
comes down to we're pretty much controlled by the U.S.
dollar at the end of the day that's where they have all that power and all that control over us
because they can click two three buttons shut everything down. That's militant fascism. Do you think
tim pool
that people in Texas, South Dakota are going to be like oh no I guess I have to comply with
Joe Biden?
You got Wyoming and West Virginia, the deepest Trump supporting states in the country.
You think these places are going to be like, Oh geez, I guess I have to comply.
Or do you think they're going to be like, screw you?
unidentified
Yeah.
joey salads
They're going to say screw you.
And then their bank accounts are going to get frozen.
tim pool
And then there'll be like a state issue with the governor or whatever.
It's going to be like, to the local banks that are only in these certain areas, undo it.
You can't do that.
Governors will intervene.
joey salads
And then the federal government will probably try to hit those banks and shut those local banks down.
There's always that like, who's got the bigger hammer when it comes to that situation?
Who's got more control over the powers of control?
tim pool
The businesses will switch to crypto.
ian crossland
Yeah, Florida will spin up their own crypto, and then the federal government will make that crypto illegal, probably a felony, and then they'll start, they'll withhold tax money to the state, and then you might see other states join in, and you could see definite, maybe not civil war, but intense civil conflict.
tim pool
Dude, we're in a civil war.
ian crossland
Political conflict.
tim pool
No, no, no, we're in a civil war.
ian crossland
You gotta define war, but I mean, fifth generational, it seems like.
This is a fifth generational civil war.
tim pool
This is a mental civil war.
Are you familiar with fourth and fifth generational warfare?
joey salads
Uh, I guess explain it to me.
tim pool
I'm familiar, but... We'll start with, uh... I assume first generational warfare is like two people punching each other in the face and like, you know, charging at each other.
But in order to gain control of resources or influence over a city or region or other group of people, you can't convince them.
It goes into kinetic conflict, right?
Physical confrontation.
There's been multiple generations.
There's been espionage, there's been cyber warfare.
We are moving into the era now beyond all that, which is fourth and fifth generational warfare.
Fourth generational warfare is when it's not necessarily nation states anymore.
It's people flying different banners within states and between states, insurgent groups, groups like the Taliban, groups like Al Qaeda, and groups like Antifa.
Fifth generational warfare is more in winning control of resources by controlling people's minds through propaganda and information.
So in that regard, no doubt, the culture war they call it, right?
It's been called a cold civil war over and over again.
The problem I have with that phrase cold is that, I don't know, there was a dude in Portland who took two bullets to the chest by a guy who was stalking him and had a communist tattoo on his neck.
lydia smith
Seems hot.
ian crossland
Yeah, you've got all it's limited.
Those are the you'll see the limited pockets of violence and like even the Civil War.
I mean, there was Korea or not the Civil War rather the Cold War with Russia.
tim pool
We had Korea, which is like a Russian American conflict, but in the proxy of a guy getting sort of but that's like communist factions supported by a larger state versus free enterprise faction supported by another state.
That wasn't the US engaging in direct conflict.
ian crossland
Yeah, indirect.
tim pool
That's why the I call it the Cold War.
It was a war, but it was proxy.
No, what we're seeing in the United States isn't Cold Civil War.
When you have people fighting in the streets, and there was a shootout last weekend, and there was a shootout the weekend before that, and like, how about a hundred days of violent rioting in Portland with firebombs?
And then when Donald Trump is like, we're sending some feds to get it, they're like, oh, fascists, fascists.
Like, dude, you're firebombing buildings.
And then you had the Oregon governor, I think it was the AG, sue the federal government over their attempts to enforce the law.
Now you get the Democrats in the federal government.
They're going nuts.
And now it's the... So here's what I said.
When the blue state was suing, you know, Donald Trump, the federal government, over trying to enforce the law and stop the fire bombings, the riots, I was like, this is it!
People live in, you know, they view history through condensed lenses, where you open a book and you read about the Civil War and it's like, on this day this happened, on this day this happened, on this day this happened, and you're like, wow, and you're reading it all really fast, not realizing for the people living it, Yo, it was years.
Five years?
The Revolutionary War was 20 years.
There were people who were born after the first conflict in the American Revolution, and rebel sentiment, and then fought in the war for two years.
They were born into it.
This stuff went on for a really, really, really long time.
joey salads
I also feel like the transfer of information back then definitely took a lot longer than nowadays.
tim pool
Right, and that's why it's accelerated now.
You wanted to draft a letter.
Takes, you know, a month to have these meetings where they finally agree on the letter.
Then it takes three months to get to the crown.
Then the king finally gets a chance to go through the letter, reads it, crafts a response with his advisors and goes to parliament.
Takes a month.
Three months later it comes back to the states and then doesn't even go to every single state.
joey salads
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, so that could have taken a year just to have one message.
Now it's all different.
But here's what happens.
Oregon sues the federal government.
I said, this is it.
I mean, the state is rejecting federal authority to enforce the law on federal property in their state.
This is where it begins.
Now, Joe Biden is trying to enforce federal decree on red states, and they're going to be doing the same things.
Yo.
I love it when people are like, I was talking to Russell Brand, I did the Russell Brand podcast recently, and he brought up, he's like, you know, you've talked quite a bit about civil war in the past.
And I was like, yeah, that's true.
And I was like, there's a lot of things you need to understand about that.
For one, I was right.
Okay.
And we just had a shootout last weekend and the weekend before that.
And you might say, oh, but those are just shootouts.
Do we have shootouts five years ago?
It wasn't happening.
Let's break this down.
I was like, we had numerous articles from The Atlantic and all these other smart people about the possibility of a civil war escalating in the United States, especially with Donald Trump getting elected.
You then had a Princeton professor saying, I think it was in 2016, we are in a cold civil war.
This was a long time ago.
And that sentiment emerges, and then we see the battle for Berkeley, the base stick man, old women getting explosives thrown at him.
I was watching this stuff happen on the ground in San Jose and Berkeley at these Trump rallies, and then I was like, yo, people have lost their minds.
You don't see a de-escalation when people want to tit for tat.
So I was like, I think we're going to see a civil war.
joey salads
And it's not always the like when you saw those people assault Larry Elder.
Those are obviously like L.A.
crackheads that are just radical crackheads just roam in the street.
Probably don't even know.
tim pool
But they have access to political information.
Yeah. Being indoctrinated.
joey salads
Yeah. Well, I'm saying is that Berkeley one, I think you were there
and I was there at the same time.
I noticed an older crowd who looked normal.
They looked like they could have been teachers.
tim pool
Waving little Trump flags.
joey salads
No, no, not that.
They were picking up rocks.
They were on the Antifa side.
They were picking up rocks and throwing them at Trump supporters.
And I saw them there and I was undercover because I wanted to, you know, capture what was going on.
I told them like, hey guys, I'm like, you might want to get out of here.
This is like nasty because they would just look like regular people that just probably walked down the wrong street and recording it.
and then I looked back at the tape and they were picking up rocks and throwing
tim pool
it at the Trump supporters. So where do we end up right?
To have people come to me and and you know I love these these you know
bread tubers and leftists being like haha Tim Pool thinks civil war and I'm like
well since those predictions which I've continued to make we had January 6 where about a thousand people stormed into
the Capitol building Well, I should say, a large number of them stormed the front gates.
A lot of people were escorted in by cops opening the door, but they did disrupt the Electoral College vote count.
Now, a lot of Trump supporters think that it was effectively a setup in that police were standing down, that Pelosi didn't get, you know, a National Guard in there.
Regardless, people fought with cops to get into the Capitol building They had no real plan.
That's what the FBI report says.
But they did shut down the electoral college vote.
I'm not here to overplay this and call it an insurrection.
I'm saying, yo, that's unprecedented.
And what did we see around the same time?
We had, I think it was 48 states involved in a lawsuit over how the election was handled.
And I'm sitting here like, yo, I've been telling you people shooting each other in the streets, a dude being killed, then Trump having feds hunt down the guy who did it and kill him.
Like, yo, we are dangerously close to this stuff falling apart.
John Podesta, as reported by the Boston Globe, said that if Trump wins in 2020, the West Coast should secede from the Union.
A new YouGov poll data showing that in the United States, five different regions, three 37.2% of the American population wants their region to secede from the Union.
A lawsuit between 48 states contesting the election, and to this day, what, 80 million, I think it's like two-thirds of Republicans distrusting the election results?
How are you going to come to tell me?
We had people on this show.
We wrapped up one show and one dude who came on was like, no, I think everything's going to go back to normal.
Everything's fine.
And I was like, what, what part of people shooting each other, beating each other in the streets, massive lawsuits between states, quantum computing, neural net fusion, what's, there's no normal baby.
ian crossland
Everything's changing.
tim pool
What part of the active conflict makes you think things will stop?
Has Joe Biden come out and said, I want to be a good president to everyone in this country.
And knowing that there are 80 million Americans who are skeptical and hesitant to vaccines, I want to have a conversation with you and work with you.
That's why I'm going to be announcing, you know, a new plan to work with Republican leaders and have discussions over protecting civil liberties.
No, he doesn't do that.
He says, what did he say?
We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin.
ian crossland
Who's he talking about?
tim pool
It's right.
I mentioned this before.
When he came out, when Texas and Florida announced that they were shutting down, they're like, we're not going to do these shutdowns.
We're not going to have these mandates.
He came out and said, we may need more restrictions.
We may need more mask mandates.
And that was an important point earlier this year.
I said, who was he talking to?
He wasn't talking to Texas.
He wasn't talking to South Dakota.
South Dakota never shut down.
He wasn't talking to Florida.
No, he was talking only to blue states.
Joe Biden is the president who comes out on TV and says, us and we against you.
ian crossland
You know, he just, he just pulled off the biggest, in my opinion, military blunder in American history.
He surrendered to the Taliban after a 20-year war that we had control.
We were in control.
joey salads
And that helped China, I think, more than anybody else.
ian crossland
It devastated not only the way we look in the world.
Who would trust us to ally with us if we're gonna walk away and leave them to die afterwards?
joey salads
If we're looking at who benefits the most from everything that Biden's doing, I have to say probably China's benefiting the most.
ian crossland
So he's saving face.
This is him coming out hard, out of the closet, to be angry.
Immediately, I'm like, what is he talking about anything other than Afghanistan for right now?
He wants to focus on how cool, how strong he is.
This is total power play.
tim pool
I agree.
This policy doesn't fly.
It's going to get sued into oblivion.
He'll probably try and bypass the Supreme Court anyway, but boy, did it change the conversation with Afghanistan.
joey salads
We're talking about this instead of Afghanistan now, yeah.
And another thing is like, I wonder, because I know you were saying that they kind of want
the states to split in a way where like Florida is its own state.
I wonder how that's going to go, because I know in New York City,
I'll just use this as a smaller scale example, my hometown, Staten Island,
it's technically part of New York City, it pays New York City taxes, pays New York State taxes,
but everyone in Staten Island, for the most part, it's the only Republican borough
out of the entirety of New York City.
It's not even, it's not anything like anything else in New York City geographically and the people.
But they refuse to let Staten Island secede from New York City.
They just refuse.
I believe it's because they don't want A part of New York that's not adherent to the New York City Tax Code, and just have everybody from New York City just living over there in Staten Island.
Because what would happen is, tons of businesses will just, okay, we're just gonna go right over the bridge, we're gonna just move right over the bridge, and Manhattan would just lose tons of business.
tim pool
Isn't New York City tax, I think, is like 3.5% or something?
joey salads
Yeah, 3.5%.
And there's no reason for Staten Island to be paying that, because we're nothing like the rest of the city.
It's just a completely different world.
It might as well just be New Jersey at that point.
And I feel like that's going to be the same exact thing when it comes to Florida and Texas.
If they want to secede, if Florida and Texas ever did get out of there, they're either going to have to, one, try to destroy the economy of those states as much as possible, so this way no one would ever want to live there.
Or they would have to force them to stay because they don't want it to become a beacon of freedom where it's 0% taxes.
Every business, just come here.
You've got no federal government breathing down your neck.
You want to have your trillion dollar business here?
You want to have your small business here?
Yeah, just come here.
No one's going to bother you.
Just come here and do whatever you want.
tim pool
And check it out right now.
There's a lot going on with these vaccine mandates.
Truckers.
If the truckers of the United States right now said, I'm good, strike.
Whole country shuts down.
Everything.
Everything shuts down.
They have all the power.
People don't realize.
When you zoom out on America, you look at America on the satellite map.
You look at it in real time.
I'm not saying you actually have access to do that.
Let's say you could.
You know what you see on the roads?
You know what you see on all the highways?
They look like veins.
And you know what those trucks are?
Those are the red blood cells carrying the oxygen to all of the major centers to make sure that people can survive.
joey salads
How does it work with Amazon?
Do they own their own truck drivers?
tim pool
Oh, dude, so in rural areas, when you order from Amazon, it gets delivered to a post office, and then it either comes... Actually, when we order on Amazon, we get UPS, FedEx, and postal deliveries for Amazon stuff.
When, in the cities, there's an Amazon warehouse and they hire their own drivers.
And the person will show up, put it in their car, drive it to you.
Not here.
We get that sometimes.
But typically, it has to be delivered through a service.
joey salads
It's still gotta go from the production center and the warehouse to these distribution centers either way.
So it's gotta come from a big truck, then their little drivers can handle it locally.
tim pool
Here's the important point.
Let's say you live in Texas.
No vaccine mandates.
We got a shipment.
It's going out to New York.
Can't do it.
Because if I go there, I'm not going to be able to eat any food or go to restaurants.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to be able to go into the gas station.
Sorry.
Actually, not even going to be able to go into the warehouse to drop it off.
Now, there may be some exceptions, like, oh, you're just dropping something off, fine.
You're getting takeout.
New York says it's fine.
There's probably reasons why they did this.
But how many of these truck drivers are going to be like, eh, not worth the risk.
I'm not going to drive all that way for this job and then find out that I can't even interact.
The other way is different.
New York will be able to go to Texas.
Vaccinated New York truck drivers will have no problem going to Texas. So it's all gonna start flowing towards
these red states.
joey salads
The thing is these cities are the ones that really need these imported supplies and goods too.
tim pool
Yeah, I think, um, you know, I don't know exactly how this plays out.
You know, I've said for a long time civil war and we were just talking about that.
But I do think, based on that YouGov data, about 37.2% of people want their region to break apart from the United States.
Or, I'm sorry, yeah, each different region has a different population size.
But overall, in the United States, there's a 37.2% of people want their region to break apart.
I look at that and I'm like, maybe it's just balkanization.
Maybe that's not even the right word for it because you talk about the Balkan wars and
stuff and the balkanization that happened.
Maybe what we're going to see is a little bit different and it's more going to be just
a disillusion of the Union.
ian crossland
Decentralization of the Union.
tim pool
The states become the states and take care of their own business and that's it.
ian crossland
I think we've been in, maybe not a civil war, but with, first of all, the Federal Reserve
really, those guys really wanted to take control of the American economy, which they kind of
did.
Then of course we had the communist American conflict.
So then we had the Chinese, which we still have.
So it's like we've been in this conflict.
For a hundred years.
And it's evolved and morphed into a different shape, where it's like, me and you and you, we all have these different opinions now.
Your neighbors aren't the people that you relate to the most.
And so there's all this psychological conflict that's being sown.
And I hate seeing Americans versus Americans on this.
I don't think that's what it is.
We got divided over the last 15 years, really, really sadly.
Unnecessarily.
It's more than just an American problem.
It's a global problem.
And I think we really need to be unified.
joey salads
We're inching closer and closer to what's happening in Australia.
tim pool
That's where we're headed.
I'm sorry, I gotta disagree with you.
You constantly want to, you hold this belief of like, we shouldn't be divided, people should come together.
But I think you missed the boat on that one a long time ago.
ian crossland
I can't stop though, I can't stop myself.
tim pool
I get it, but look, these are things I was talking about in 2016.
Yeah, I was in 2007.
Hey guys, we shouldn't be hyper-polarizing like this.
We can't just be pointing the fingers.
2018, I'm like, yo, this fighting's gotta stop.
I actually said people should stop showing up to these things to just simmer down.
I understand people want to go out and protest, they have a right to do it.
But all it's gonna do is create a tit-for-tat, so why don't people just chill out right now?
Now we're at the point, there is no turning back.
You got people like Hassan Piker, one of the biggest, if not the biggest, independent political commentator, cheering for nationwide rule-by-decree.
Cheering for it, mocking those, as you have someone, Biden in office, violating like, overtly violating the Constitution, the law.
Overruling legislation in the Supreme Court on multiple occasions, and he's cheering for it, while at the same time, you have some of these same people saying the abortion law in Texas is wrong, the government, you know, my body, my choice.
Oh, but this is contagious, we shouldn't allow it.
We shouldn't allow the virus to kill people.
But we should be allowed to abort babies.
There's no logical consistency other than, give me the power to enact the things I want.
There is no reconciling that, Ian.
When these people, by like 54%, believe the economy is doing good right now, I'm sorry, man.
They come out and they claim that every Trump supporter is ingesting horse paste, which is just not true.
joey salads
It's a small... They did the same thing with the Trump and the bleach situation.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
First of all, Trump said something dumb, and they act like people actually believe that stuff.
But I'll tell you this.
The reality?
Independent voters and Republican voters are not running around ingesting horse paste.
It's just not happening.
Some people are, and it's a stupid thing to do.
joey salads
The irony is the guy that they're making fun of, Joe Rogan, ended up getting better in like three days.
tim pool
But he went to a doctor, and the doctor gave him a prescription.
He got monoclonal antibodies, which is an FDA-authorized treatment, and that's probably what did it.
But here's the point.
We can say definitively, yeah, we know there are dumb people going to Tractor Supply.
You go to Tractor Supply, there's horsepace missing, because people bought it.
But they only had like 30 boxes anyway, so there's not tens of millions of crackpots.
You look at the Republicans right now.
The Republicans in the polls, a large portion, do not like the Republican Party, because they're paying attention.
Independent voters think the economy is bad, don't like the Republicans or the Democrats.
The metric, Democrats believing the economy is good, is proof these people live in Wally World.
ian crossland
Evidence, evidence.
It's not proof.
But it's, there's only like 3,000 people though, that I think, that study.
It was only like 3,000.
What study?
That showed the Democrats thought the economy was good.
tim pool
No, it's like 100,000.
Is it?
ian crossland
I thought that was a different study.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, it's like 100,000.
joey salads
Maybe they think it's good because they're getting their checks in the mail.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
No, it's because Joe Biden got elected, and all of a sudden there's a spike in people believing the economy was good.
ian crossland
Yeah, you're going to get 100,000 morons in any political party, pretty much.
joey salads
And here's the other thing, I guess, when it comes to the UBI and all these checks that everyone's been getting.
I guess Andrew Yang and the whole, I guess, UBI socialist crowd are saying, we need this money, we need this money, it'll be productive, it'll go to good, it'll help us do this, help us do that.
And what happens when a lot of these people get their money?
Louis Vuitton stock skyrockets.
You know?
Because they're going to be buying Gucci bags.
Purses, whatever they're doing.
I live in Vegas now, and I've been flying back and forth, and what I noticed is probably 75% of the flights have been extremely ghetto, extremely rowdy, no flight etiquette.
I'm getting on the plane.
tim pool
Have you seen these videos?
People fighting and boxing on planes?
joey salads
They're coming on the planes, and they got boom boxes, and they're blasting music.
unidentified
It's like a bus!
joey salads
They're cursing at the flight attendants.
They're yelling at the pilots.
Oh, we're gonna have a 10-minute delay landing.
A little bit busy today.
I know us your F and lion to us get us off freaking out And this is like 75% of the flights I've been going on
lately in and out of Vegas have been like that also I talked to a lot of people on the strip a lot of security
they said at the time when I was talking they said crime Has been going up on the strip, and I asked why I came to
the conclusion I think this might be true that because the airlines and
the casinos They're all giving these deals to get people back into the
city and people are all having these Checks come in the mail that never earned it and they just
want to go blow it and they're getting you know less desirable people
Coming into town starting problems starting crime. I even When I was in the casino, uh, not too long ago, I had, I
think, three people try to start a fight with me.
One person tried to start a fight with me because they asked if I liked Alex Jones,
and they tried to start a fight with me over that.
They asked you?
Yeah, they asked me, because I was having a political conversation with my friend's mom,
and they turned around, they're like, You like Alex Jones?
I'm like, I think he's cool.
He's definitely entertaining.
Well, you're a... And he just called me, you know, one of these words that I can't say.
A Nazi?
No, not... He definitely called me that.
Oh, he called you a slur.
unidentified
Yeah, the R one.
tim pool
The things that YouTube bans us for.
joey salads
Yeah, I was like, dude, just go away from me.
And then, like, literally, I go to another table, and someone, like, yells, Joe, because the guy next to me, his name was Joe.
He wasn't with me, and I, like, glanced back, and I looked back, he's like, And I wasn't effing talking to you.
And he starts to try to size me up.
I'm like, bro, get out of here.
Like, what are you doing?
tim pool
I'm going to point something out to you, Ian, that I think is really, really important.
Right now, you talk about, you know, you want unity and how we can't have this polarization and it's not the people.
We got to blame somebody else.
You have high-profile, verified, influential personalities with millions of followers who are cheering for the complete destruction of the American form of government, that we have checks and balances, that we have an executive, a legislative, and a judicial branch, all equally powerful, Calling each other out when they break when they when they step out of the line Right now you have many people.
I mean just go on Twitter.
You can see them all These are the people on the left in the establishment Celebrating that what Joe celebrating what Joe Biden did on numerous occasions?
Bypassing the American way of government these people are acting against the American way of government Let me explain something When Barack Obama, you know, he wants to do DACA, right?
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, I think it's what it means.
There's a question over, well, the president can give orders to the executive branch on how they handle certain cases, so there's a legal question there.
And a lot of people argue, this is legislation.
Obama should not be able to do this.
And then others argued, well, he can simply tell ICE not to enforce it, because he can instruct them to do it.
And that's, well, that's executive branch, and then you've got to get lawsuits.
Lawsuits have got to get involved.
When Donald Trump wants to have a travel ban based on, you know, this list of countries of threats, some argue, well, that's got to go through legislation.
Yeah, but...
It's also that the president has the ability to declare emergencies and take executive action.
That's the point of the executive branch.
What Joe Biden did today...
Mandating that businesses with 100 employees or more be fined $14,000 if they don't get weekly tests or verify vaccination is overtly a legislation thing.
When Joe Biden bypassed a Supreme Court ruling by enacting a new eviction moratorium, he directly spat in the face of the Supreme Court, violating, in no uncertain terms, the checks and balances of this country.
And now you have people on the left celebrating this.
How do we move forward as a country when half of the political population, because not every person in America, is celebrating the collapse of the American way of governance?
joey salads
Like the left's ideology, and I say this all the time on my show, basically the same way you just said it too, is their ideology is just a sliding scale.
Where they can go from, we need to support abortion, right, to murder babies in the womb.
That's my right.
It's like the only time they care about their constitutional right is when it comes to murdering and aborting babies.
Um, but when it comes to forcefully getting vaccinated, being locked in the house, all this, all that, that comes with it, uh, for public health and public safety, all of a sudden the constitution doesn't exist.
Your rights don't exist, but it's, it's just like, they have all their whole entire ideology is a sliding scale with no consistency in about what benefits them at that moment at that time.
tim pool
But it's also, you know, I think you'll understand this, Ian.
We cannot be a civilization of people fighting for 100% safety.
It's impossible.
But that seems to be what the left right now is saying.
Sacrifice everything for more safety.
We saw it in the colleges when they created the safe spaces.
If a lecturer says a naughty word and you're offended, here's a pastel room full of stuffed animals and beanbags for you to go cry in.
Those are real things.
joey salads
Big tech companies had safe spaces for when Trump won the election.
tim pool
They were crying.
These are people who are voting and enforcing safety, safety, safety above all else.
joey salads
After January 6th, I know a bunch of people that work for companies We're watching this happen.
That safety has become paramount over everything else.
lydia smith
Remember that, yeah.
joey salads
Yeah, a lot of that.
And they still have mental health days whenever something big happens in the news, which is
utterly pathetic in my book.
tim pool
We're watching this happen, that safety has become paramount over everything else.
And what did Ben Franklin say?
Those that would sacrifice freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
joey salads
And here's the thing is, us Republicans or people on the right, we don't care what people on the left do.
Like, me personally, I would rather us just kind of split.
You live your life, let me live my life.
But it's, they can't let that happen.
They want to force us to live by the rules that they want them to live by.
It's like they can't just say, hey, can we just all just throw ourselves in Florida?
Just leave us alone.
Like, we'll all just stay in these states.
Stop telling us what to do.
Just leave us alone.
We won't bother you.
You won't bother us.
But they know, and I think when it comes down to a lot of, like, the truck drivers and the unions, they kind of need us for that.
And California's always like, oh, we have the biggest economy in the state, we have the biggest economy in the world, but biggest doesn't mean best.
tim pool
Why would anyone give up their serfs?
You know, so you've got eastern Oregon wanting to secede from the state.
It's like, we don't need Amazon.
Why would Portland allow their serfs, who pay taxes, to leave the state?
No, no, no.
We need those resources.
We need that access.
It's leverage for us.
But you've seen it, right?
I mean, the constant drive towards safety.
We can't do that.
We can't live that way.
ian crossland
Seems that people think that COVID is deadly like smallpox or like polio, like it's a debilitating, crippling disease.
It's not good for you, and it definitely seems to have detrimental effects, but to act like it's as dangerous as polio, I get it.
Suspend habeas corpus if there's a life-threatening, devastating virus that's causing people to fall down, their arms are rotting off, they're bleeding out of their face.
You call off habeas corpus and you heal the people with whatever you have.
That's not what we saw.
We saw an incredibly transmissible disease that's, what is it, 99.4% of the people that get it, I think, come out of it okay.
I think that's the number.
joey salads
Is that people who tested or people who actually got it?
tim pool
Of cases.
Of confirmed cases.
ian crossland
99, over 99% of the people are coming out okay from this.
tim pool
And now the CDC has said twice as many people have been infected as per previously known.
ian crossland
So that'd be 99.5% of them.
tim pool
Well, it doesn't change, I was reading about this, it doesn't change case fatality, but the point is, it means a lot of people who have gotten this didn't realize it.
And I'll tell you this, we've had people on the show, and when you actually have someone explain to you what getting COVID was like, You really don't want to get it.
I've had the flu.
And the flu was a nightmare.
I lost 20 pounds overnight.
I was shaking.
I was pale.
ian crossland
It used to kill people.
joey salads
Back then you knew you had the flu.
You knew you were going to be fine.
I had COVID.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Dude, I lost 20 pounds overnight.
I was like, I need to go to the hospital.
But here's the point I wanted to make.
That when it comes to COVID, you hear about, you know, we had someone on the show explaining how all of a sudden one day he couldn't breathe anymore.
He couldn't have a conversation.
He's like, I gotta go to the hospital.
We had John Pierce on the show.
And then a month later, he's in the hospital.
So that's something to consider.
I think it's twice as deadly or it's more deadly than the flu.
We're dealing with something different now with the variants.
They're more infectious.
There's long-term effects.
They're not as deadly.
I don't have the full numbers to pull up.
But I think here's where we need to be.
COVID is scary.
Long-term health effects for younger people are bad.
Mortality tends to be for older people.
There's some promising studies on therapeutics and alternative treatments.
There's some vaccines.
Hey, how about we be honest about the whole thing, not force people to do it?
And every time I see one of these stories where they lie and they say things like, the man grasped my hand and said, please, I just wish I took the vaccine.
I'm like, that didn't happen, dude.
Because there was one woman who claimed it, and then a bunch of people called, like, they pulled up the CDC data on the hospital and found out she made it up.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, dude, no one in these age groups were in your hospital with COVID.
Or how about the ivermectin thing in Oklahoma?
When all these outlets fall for it, this is why there are skeptics, because the media lies.
over and over again.
ian crossland
Is the Oklahoma Ivermectin thing where they said 70% of all the poison control calls were for people that,
but then it turned out 70% of the 2% of the calls were for Ivermectin.
tim pool
So like 1.6% of the calls were.
ian crossland
That's a great story.
We have yet to go on that on this show.
Did you talk about it on your, that's hilarious.
joey salads
I was gonna say another thing is like, imagine if COVID was actually as bad as they're saying it
or pretending it is or promoting it is.
ian crossland
We wouldn't be having this conversation.
tim pool
No, no, no.
joey salads
What I'm saying is if the government for the most part stayed out of it, I feel like,
and I'm just such a believer in the free markets and the people and people making the right decisions
based on the truth and based on the information.
I feel like if there was an actual disease killing, let's say, 5-10% of the people it touches, I feel like we would make personal changes to our own life.
ian crossland
It would be my life's goal to help people.
joey salads
Yeah, I'm gonna stay home.
That actually seems bad.
People my age are dying.
I'm not gonna go out.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
COVID is exactly as bad as they say it is.
COVID is absolutely as bad as they've been saying it is.
The problem is they're cowards who want to live in bubble wrap in a safe space instead of realizing that freedom comes with risks.
So I'm the kind of guy who's like, hey, we decided to move out in the middle of nowhere.
There are bears out here.
And somebody recently was posting about how, like, there were bears outside their houses.
We get messages flagged in our Facebook group.
It's like, guys, guys, there's a bear.
Everyone, you know, stay inside.
Wild cats and stuff.
Yeah, welcome to mountains.
We choose to live in these areas.
We have more freedom and greater risk.
That's on us.
The problem is when you get these people who see something like COVID and then say, shut her down, everyone, even you in the middle of nowhere.
You work from home?
Vaccine mandate.
joey salads
And the thing is, like, if I died from COVID tomorrow, I don't want to be used politicized as oh he was anti-vaccine whatever he should have he only would have lived if he only took the vaccine if I die from COVID tomorrow another day that's my choice because I didn't if I didn't take the vaccine and I died from it or because I went out and got myself sick that's on me.
ian crossland
You do, you gotta be real careful about dying from COVID and dying with COVID.
Because some people die from like a heart attack, and they have COVID, and then they get counted as COVID death.
joey salads
One of the biggest spins that they did, I think it was in California, when it first started, there was like an 18-year-old, 17-year-old kid died with COVID, but apparently he was doing steroids, and his heart exploded, and they tested him, and he had COVID, and it ran the headlines.
17-year-old high school student, young, healthy, played football, died from COVID, however they did the spin.
try to scare younger people at the time. They do it with, you know, when a baby dies from COVID too.
They do all these spins. You read the article and you go down to the bottom. You're like,
unidentified
oh, okay, so that's the truth. But they got the headline out.
tim pool
Let's talk about what's going on with the executive branch, because as much as I think
these, like, Democrat voters who are just, let's just use a cliche, sheeple, who are just bleating
at the calls of their grifter class and the executive branch.
I think Joe Biden knows exactly what he's doing.
I said earlier that the mandate, the decree over, you know, vaccine mandates is intended just to cause chaos and sow dissent within the states and break apart the bonds of this country.
And I think I've got some more hard evidence for that.
From John Bogage, I'm sorry, Jacob Bogage.
He is a Washington Post reporter covering the U.S.
Postal Service and he says, News!
White House official tells me USPS workers are not included in President Biden's vaccine requirement, but we strongly encourage them to comply with these standards.
That's a massive chunk of the federal workforce, 644,000 and growing, that's not required to be vaccinated.
This is stunning.
One of the things we've learned during the pandemic is the Postal Service is a key part of the national infrastructure and homeland security.
We've seen what's happened to the service when there have been pandemic-related staffing shortages, but USPS workers are exempt.
To put in context, OSHA will fine a business more than $14,000 for testing violation, but the U.S.
Postal Service, a goliath of a federal agency, is exempt.
He says, quickie, write up on the USPS exemption, then he links to the source.
Do you know what this means?
ian crossland
That means that Biden knows that they would refuse and have to fire a bunch of postal services and we can't.
tim pool
Yep.
That means when it comes to U.S.
federal infrastructure, they said, we can't deal with staffing shortages in the post office.
Exempt them.
But that means Biden knows this mandate will result in massive resignations across the country.
So it's intentional.
He knows what's going to happen from this, and he's shielding the federal government from it.
The only thing I can see is that they want people to quit.
They want the labor shortages.
They want the staffing.
They want the food shortages.
They want the collapse of business.
They know it is happening.
joey salads
They want freedom-loving people to not be able to properly contribute to the society anymore.
ian crossland
I think they might be stupid and afraid.
It might be that.
It might not be anything malicious.
They really think they're helping.
Is that possible?
tim pool
No, no, no.
ian crossland
He thinks he's saving people?
tim pool
No, this is the point.
This is incredible.
For Biden to come out and be like, Yeah, he knows.
We are going to exempt the post office.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
And they're concerned about staffing shortages.
They know the mandate will just result in people quitting their jobs.
At a time when we have 10.9 million job openings, a record number, we only filled 235,000 positions, and it's expected to get worse because the great resignation is escalating.
Then Joe Biden does this, signaling he knows this will result in mass resignations.
Yo, I hope you're ready for the shortages.
Google search closed comma shortages and have fun scrolling through the tens of thousands of news stories every day for the months about every business that's closed due to labor and supply shortages.
joey salads
Yeah, and if you quit your job over not getting the vaccine, I think in most places, I don't know if it's a federal thing or a state thing, you don't even qualify for any benefits or unemployment.
They're just not going to let you.
ian crossland
What if you get fired if you refuse to quit and then they have to terminate you?
joey salads
I don't know, but they're trying to, because nowadays, like, if there's so many job openings, there's so much benefits that you can do where you can quit your job and just live off the government until you find another job, which there are tons of jobs for you to find.
They kind of want to make it harder for you to do any of that.
They don't want you to get any unemployment.
And I don't remember if that went into effect or if that was federal.
tim pool
They ended the federal benefits.
The eviction moratorium is over.
And a lot of conservatives have been like, oh, this is good.
It means people will go back to work.
And I'm like, no, it doesn't.
People are quitting their jobs right now.
They call it the Great Resignation.
We lost, I think, 11 million jobs over three months from, it was April, May, and June.
11 million jobs.
We didn't add that many.
We added like 2 point something million.
So people, they're quitting their jobs.
They're resigning.
You can't get unemployment when you do that.
joey salads
I love how under Trump, when the lockdowns were starting to come out, Trump beat all the job growth expectations.
All of it.
Beat all of it.
Like by flying colors.
And as soon as Biden came in, immediately undershorting them by like large margins.
Like immediately.
tim pool
There's a point where I say it feels like it's on purpose.
joey salads
Yeah.
tim pool
Because this action they took with protecting the post office shows they know it's going to destroy the economy.
joey salads
The thing is, I keep coming to the point, it's like, why would even like the deep state
or the people, you know, whoever's pulling the strings behind Biden, if they had America's
best interest in mind, why would they be doing all this?
And usually the thought process I always come to is it must be China.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't think it's America's best interest.
joey salads
It's only it has China.
This all has China's best interest in mind.
China's got access to trillions of dollars worth of resources from the Taliban now in
Afghanistan.
America's economy is going down.
In my opinion, I do believe cryptocurrency is probably going to end up hurting the U.S.
dollar, and we're just printing stuff all willy-nilly.
Like, everything we're doing, China's looking at.
It's like, okay, great.
We're going to take advantage over these next four years.
Maybe even eight years.
Maybe twelve years.
tim pool
This is Thucydides' trap.
You familiar?
We talked about it a bit.
joey salads
Let me hear it.
tim pool
So they say whenever a rising economic power is about to displace the dominant economic power, war breaks out.
Well, what's been happening between the U.S.
and China?
There's been saber-rattling, but there's been cyber-war.
Cyber-war's been active.
That's like fourth-generational warfare.
Now we're in full-scale propaganda.
You got John Cena issuing his Mandarin apology over accidentally... What'd he do?
He called Taiwan a country?
joey salads
When it comes to John Cena, that specific situation, part of me doesn't really blame him.
Because I feel like at the same time, he was probably also looking out for everybody involved in those films that he's been making.
tim pool
I blame him. 100%.
That's the thing is... Bro, you gotta take responsibility.
You can't let people off the hook for this stuff.
joey salads
I know.
I don't blame him, but I'm just trying to put myself in his point of view.
You make multiple hundred million dollar movies.
You're the star of multiple hundred million dollar movies.
You probably got over hundreds of thousands of jobs on the line between the marketing department, distribution, people in production, your fellow actors, everything, people in the management.
It's like, you know, it branches out by hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Hundreds of thousands of jobs based around him as being the centerpiece star of all these movies and all these movies are now
specifically pretty much tailored around getting the Chinese distribution
so if he came out and if he was like I'm not gonna apologize to China F China
they would instantly cut every single movie deal he had either some of these movies probably would have been
hundreds of millions of dollars in the toilet gone
or they would spend tens of millions of dollars to replace him good
but then it hurts so what hundreds of thousands of people who had nothing to
The people in the production, the people in the unions.
tim pool
We shouldn't be doing deals with concentration camps that are going to pull something like this.
We should say, do you want the movie or not?
Have it or leave it.
But people are greedy.
And so it's like, look, the people who did those jobs got paid for those jobs.
joey salads
He would probably be sued for hundreds of millions of dollars, too.
tim pool
Good!
Take it!
I mean, maybe people shouldn't be such spineless, whiny babies.
joey salads
I kind of draw the line between, I guess, stupidity and morality.
It's obviously from a morality point of view, he should stud his ground.
Maybe many people would, but I feel like from the stupidity point of view, It's like, all you gotta do is say sorry to China, and everything gets to go keep going as normal, or you don't say sorry, and now you're gonna be in the fight for your life until the end of your life.
You know what, Joey?
tim pool
You're right.
It's just 15 days.
It's just a mask.
It's just a vaccine.
It's just a booster.
It's just a booster every five months.
It's just your twice-daily Pfizer pill.
It's just, it's just, it's just... No.
You put your foot down, and you say, Sorry, China.
I'm apologizing for not apologizing, okay?
I'm saying sorry.
I'm not going to apologize to you.
joey salads
I just think for him specifically, if I was in his shoes, I think it's just gonna open up a whole can of worms of shit that he's gonna have to deal with for the rest of his life just for two little words.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So you want to bend the knee to the Chinese Communist Party, or do you want to stand up and live on your feet?
joey salads
I don't think that Hollywood should even be bending the knee at all to China, which they are, the entire entertainment industry.
tim pool
So if China offered you $50 million to start putting out video, $50 million to start praising the CCP and saying communism is good, you'd do it?
joey salads
I wouldn't go out of my way to start praising them like someone like I guess LeBron is doing for example.
Like he's you know purposely not standing for the flag kneeling.
I'm pretty sure he's came out and said some positive stuff about China.
tim pool
Well he was like oh we shouldn't get involved.
joey salads
Yeah. I mean John Cena to my knowledge at least he's not going out of his way to praise China.
He said one thing about Taiwan and then just backtracked it and just went back his own path.
I don't see him as someone that's going out there praising the CCP every chance he gets.
He was like, hey, you said this one thing, we can't have that.
We're going to lose billions of dollars, $100,000 worth of jobs.
We're going to sue you for $100 million, all this, all that.
All we need you to do is just issue this Mandarin apology.
Personally, I would cut my losses, I would do it, and live to fight another day.
Who knows, maybe John Cena will come out in 10 years and be anti-China.
tim pool
Imagine if every single person said, no China.
joey salads
That has to come down to, then people should stop going to the movies and tell, well that's the thing, that's why the NBA doesn't care about the American audience anymore, because they're just going to get all their money from China.
tim pool
Because people like John Cena will get on his knee and beg Xi Jinping for, you know.
unidentified
There's always going to be people that will do that.
tim pool
Right, they're bad people.
See, this is what we're experiencing right now.
You've got a lot of people in the United States... I said this the other day, some people got mad.
I'm not referring to any of our audience as cowards.
We are a nation of cowards.
I'm not saying every person in this country is a coward.
I'm not saying the history of this nation is built on cowardice.
Quite the opposite.
I'm saying our current generation is the good times making weak men.
We have a disproportionate amount of cowards who won't speak up for themselves or their own families to save their own lives at their workplace.
And now where are we?
You know, we'll see where things go after this.
Maybe this is the point where Biden cranked the heat up on the boiling pot and the frogs are going to jump out.
But I tell you, there's probably going to be a lot of people who still won't say anything, who still won't protest.
And if you think it's bad right now, you're going to lose your job because of this overreach by Biden.
This is one of the most extreme bits of overreach, you know, acts of overreach we've seen in a long time.
If you do not speak now, I don't know what you can expect to have a year from now.
You know, you're like, but I have kids.
Yeah, well, I hope you're, you like, that's what a lot of cops, why they're enforcing your kid Mandarin already.
You know what I mean?
Just start teaching a Mandarin while you're at it.
That's what you're going to, I'm not even kidding.
If you refuse to speak up and defend your rights and stand up for your nation and the constitution, My advice to you is to get Rosetta Stone Mandarin right now, and I mean this 100% seriously.
Have your kids learn it.
ian crossland
Learn it anyway!
I think Mandarin's great.
If we could communicate with the Chinese, man, that's the step we need towards a global peace.
tim pool
They're going to need it when China's the dominant economic power putting pressure on the U.S.
and straining us for resources, forcing us to adopt their cultural norms.
We're almost there.
We're going downhill from here.
ian crossland
I was just thinking about unity, because you were saying, like, I don't think unification is necessarily the way.
And I'm thinking, like, just bland unification isn't.
Like, Hitler unified Germany.
He was all about, we must unify the fatherland.
tim pool
By killing people.
ian crossland
So unity, for the sake of unity, is not a net positive always.
What are we unifying behind?
The Fediverse?
A decentralized, crypto-backed economy?
A new political system where we can remove the representatives and have direct representation.
I could see unifying behind a system, but it's like the Constitution, American original Constitution, they unified behind that.
It wasn't unifying behind George Washington and his ideas, it was unifying behind a document.
tim pool
You know why the Constitution's amazing?
It's the amendment process.
The problem is, the country has become so divided, we can't amend it.
I mean, we've had amendments in the past few decades, but at this point, we are really close to a convention of states, which would be fantastic.
We need, I think, only a couple more states to be Republican.
The problem is, I don't think the Republicans are going to do anything.
ian crossland
But we could do that.
A convention of states is probably the direction we should go with the Internet, the ability to get 100 million people with their eyes on one thing at a time.
joey salads
Yeah, I mean, most of these Republicans are all just paid off by the same people the Democrats are paying off.
And I feel like, for instance, China has population on their side, just an immense large population.
And that's going to be one of their biggest, you know, leg ups against America.
And I feel like that is one of the reasons why The Democrats are just letting people from the southern
border just flood into this country just to increase our population, hand them all money,
create more consumers.
Hey, everyone coming in, oh, we're going to give you $10,000 a month, go buy an iPhone.
tim pool
Oh, go use Amazon. Here, go get it housed. Just like inflate everything.
**Matt Stauffer-Ramsey** Look, when you've got half the country cheering for the end of the
American government, I'm like, you'd think people in the American government would be like,
I have a problem with this. The issue is they're not destroying it. They're subverting it to use
the infrastructure of the government to implement things they want.
So, I'll see you next time.
So Joe Biden bypasses the two other branches of government in one of the most brazen acts of executive authority we've ever seen.
I'll be honest, Obama straight up killed people, American citizens without charge of trial.
ian crossland
Bush created that stupid Patriot Act.
tim pool
Bush signed Presidential Directive 51, giving the President the ability to overthrow the U.S.
government, creating a new constitutional government with a continuity coordinator, centralized, that it creates one unified branch in control of the other branches, and the only requirements are that there be severe loss of life somewhere in the world.
So, it's not been tested in the courts.
The Supreme Court would say, screw off, you can't do this.
But it'll be interesting to see, now that Joe Biden has completely undermined the Supreme Court and the legislative branch, if he does say, due to the widespread death of the pandemic and the refusal of people to get vaccinated, I hereby invoke National Security Presidential Directive 51.
There may have been an update to it, like a newer version, where he says, we will create a new enduring constitutional government with a new continuity coordinator.
We're in charge.
ian crossland
And it will only be until 18 months from now, and then it will go back to normal.
That's what they always say, you know?
That's what Castro said.
unidentified
He'll say, and then there will be peace.
ian crossland
Come on, man.
tim pool
And then you'll have, you know... The flag will drop down.
You'll have Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boeber... High-fiving, yeah.
High-fiving?
No, they'll be standing in the Senate, you know, in the Congressional Building, and then Lauren Boeber will say, so this is how liberty dies, to thunderous applause.
ian crossland
He wasn't joking.
unidentified
Tim wasn't.
ian crossland
I thought Tim was joking.
He wasn't joking.
tim pool
What do you mean?
unidentified
What were you saying?
tim pool
I was joking.
It's a Star Wars reference.
joey salads
But it's like, kind of true.
unidentified
Dude.
I know!
ian crossland
We're on the verge.
I mean, Bush put us on the verge of a totalitarian dictatorship with these things that he signed.
The Patriot Act.
Directive 51.
tim pool
But it's not just him.
It's been non-stop.
It's been since... Who is that crackpot loser, Woodrow Wilson?
joey salads
Woodrow?
tim pool
Was that who it was?
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Was he the Federal Reserve guy?
ian crossland
Yeah, he was bad news.
They call him the most fascist, worst president.
tim pool
That guy was a jagmeat.
joey salads
Awful.
What's our way out of this now?
Crypto.
ian crossland
That's a big part of it.
joey salads
I made a whole podcast episode talking about how I believe crypto could be used to lead us into a freer nation.
I think it's going to take a generation for that to happen, because a younger generation like us, we understand and we get it.
It's not about Bitcoin, not about Ethereum, it's about the technology of being decentralized, kind of off the federal grid.
And I believe the free market will have a lot of solutions to our current system.
And the reason why you're in the system now, you've got to build credit, you know, you've got to have enough payments to get a loan, to buy a house, and you're all part of the centralized grid.
And I feel like in the future, maybe 5-10 years from now, the decentralized system will be able to replace a lot of that credit and
loan structure.
tim pool
I hear you but like I mean part of you has to admit how cool would it be if
like Biden showed up for a presidential address in like a black robe with his
unidentified
hood over his face and he's like, the attempt on my life has left me scarred and disfigured.
joey salads
Oh man, that would be lovely.
unidentified
He should do that if you're a Republican.
The Republicans will be hunted down!
ian crossland
Just kidding.
If he did that, I would have some love for them.
tim pool
Just kidding.
unidentified
No, I mean like if he seriously was like, the United States will be reformed into the first Planetary Empire!
joey salads
Galactic Empire.
tim pool
Well, we're not galactic, so.
unidentified
We're not quite.
I would be like, I really hate this, but oh, it's so cool to see.
ian crossland
Finally.
tim pool
And then everyone cheers for it.
joey salads
I mean, we're pretty close to that.
ian crossland
I was thinking about the idiosyncrasies of crypto and smart contracts and things that could, like the complexities of what we could build.
So like, you'd be in like North Korea, not North Korea, but wherever.
You're in some other country.
I send you some crypto, which triggers a smart contract that tells Tim's Yeah.
And a lot of people who are anti-crypto right now, they're like, oh, Bitcoin, it's being controlled by the elites.
Like you can have these complex chains of events that all occur just from moving one token that all happens automated
joey salads
and a lot of people who are anti crypto right now They're like Oh Bitcoin
It's being controlled by the elites and I think to a certain extent a lot of these big crypto currencies are
probably being Controlled by like like Elon Musk can make a couple tweets
and make it pump 50% or dump 50% Which I think Elon Musk is probably one of the biggest
frauds of our entire generation right now You stop doing that
You gotta look at some of his projects.
Elon Musk's entire business model is based off of getting gullible Democrats that want to believe in the future and they just spend all your tax dollars.
tim pool
I mean, what do you mean?
SpaceX is particularly successful.
I mean Tesla's not.
joey salads
I've been watching a lot of stuff online like breaking down like his Hyperloop stuff.
He's been through so many things and it's kind of like he went to a future of tomorrow conference and just like picked up a bunch of ideas and they would break down the ideas even his semi truck.
I don't want to get too much into the weeds with this stuff, but when you break down the economic viability of a lot of his projects... It doesn't exist.
It doesn't.
It's cheaper to use just railroad.
tim pool
Well, Tesla, for instance, was effectively subsidized because of the tax credit you got.
It made it profitable.
But now that that's gone, I guess it's not going to make sense to make the cars anymore.
So, you know, I guess... You use better batteries.
joey salads
I was watching, like, I think a California representative went to his, like, Hyperloop thing, and I guess they were putting a bunch of money into it.
Even that, like, underground Vegas railroad that he... not railroad, uh... Yeah, that underground tunnel.
Yeah, it was supposed to go 200 miles an hour.
It's, like, 30 miles an hour, and it's just, like, a Tesla car at a time.
It's, like, a complete flop.
But they're getting all the money from the government, a bunch of gullible Democrats that believe in clean energy, the clean world, the future, and they're just throwing money at him.
tim pool
Starlink is one of the most important infrastructure projects of our generation apparently that's another bust of his oh why it's on it's working i don't know i watched i didn't get too much into louise about the star link but i was what i was watching something i gotta look more into i don't even want to talk about it if we can get high speed low latency internet everywhere in the country
I can set up shop in central West Virginia, start hiring locals in West Virginia, bring back jobs to these areas.
I mean, that would be tremendous for small-town, rural, you know, middle America.
These people would get their jobs back.
They'd have purpose.
Their families would start improving.
It would start revitalizing a lot of this country.
When we recently drove into central West Virginia, you see the sad state of a lot of people's lives in these places where their jobs are leaving.
Some places in West Virginia are doing really, really well actually.
They're bringing in more industry, power plants and things like that.
But a lot of these, there are a lot of towns that used to be like railway towns.
And the railway stops going there, or coal mines dry up, and now all of a sudden you've got a generation of, you know, families, multiple generations, and there's nothing left for them.
So the towns start collapsing, people flood to cities desperate for work, the cities are crooked and corrupt.
We get Starlink up and running, you're gonna see all of these areas light back up.
And it's going to help put an end to the opioid epidemic, giving people purpose, and then giving them jobs and bringing all these different, I guess, there's so many different jobs based on technology you can be doing remotely.
You could have people working in central PA, central West Virginia and Wyoming, Montana.
All of a sudden, Nebraska, these small towns that are falling apart, come right back to life.
Saves a lot of people.
That's big.
That's why I'm rooting for Starlink, man.
I'm like, get it done.
Right now I think they've got, I don't know how many satellites they have active, but I know their New York satellite is active.
Their array in New York, which means if you are in the New York area, you're probably getting your Starlink activated right now.
It's like 100 megabits up and down.
Bro, if we had Starlink, we could do this show anywhere.
Theoretically, we could put on an RV, and you get a 500-mile range.
Right now, the satellites are cell-locked, which means if you have a New York satellite, it only works in the New York region.
So it's like a 500-mile radius.
ian crossland
This says that there's 1600 of them up right now.
tim pool
Yeah, but they're not, they're not active for customers.
joey salads
There's a guy you gotta watch on YouTube.
I don't remember if he, I don't know if he made a Starlink video on it or not.
His name's Thunderfoot.
ian crossland
Oh, I know that guy.
joey salads
Yeah, he makes a lot of videos breaking down a lot of Elon Musk's projects.
And, cause I was, I was never an Elon Musk fan, because I always knew the history of Tesla.
And I guess his business history, Elon Musk, and how he kind of rewrote his entire history to make himself look a
lot better than he really is.
I always knew about that, so I never liked Elon Musk until he started tweeting out, like, against Gavin Newsom and pro-freedom.
I was like, OK, maybe I'll like this guy.
He was all about cryptos of the future.
I was like, maybe I'll like him, until he started manipulating crypto prices and completely posting about falsehoods about Bitcoin's, like, efficiency when it comes to, you know, emissions and stuff.
And it was all, like, false.
I was like, wait, OK, this guy actually might be just full of shit.
He might be completely controlled by people.
And then I started going down the rabbit hole.
I was like, well, let me see more bullshit that he promotes.
ian crossland
Check out, double-check Thunderf00t's stuff, because he debunked a piece of technology I was working on, and then it got re-bunked.
Like, they found out his debunking wasn't... Yeah, it got re-bunked.
joey salads
Yeah, it got re-bunked.
ian crossland
The solar power water condensers, the air goes down underground, turns cranks, and then comes back up and out and condenses water.
He's like, there's not, it's not cold enough, or it's not hot enough underground, so... No, I'm sure he's wrong about something.
Yeah, watch out.
joey salads
I don't know too much.
ian crossland
I also like his tunnel.
Elon's tunnel.
His boring company.
Because I think once we go to Mars, we're all going to be living underground.
Personally.
joey salads
Might be a few hundred years from now.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
Like we're subsidizing technology that's like 80 years ahead of its time?
joey salads
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think we're going to live on Mars, bro.
joey salads
I don't think so.
ian crossland
Me and you may not.
tim pool
There's no magnetosphere.
ian crossland
Not yet.
tim pool
How are we going to make a magnet?
Are we going to send Aaron Eckhart down to the center of Mars to drop a bunch of nukes and ignite rotation in the core?
I don't even think there is a liquid.
ian crossland
Yeah, we need to start rotation in the core.
tim pool
Is there a core?
ian crossland
I would imagine, yeah.
joey salads
This might be a couple thousand years away, if we survive that long.
tim pool
You guys ever see that movie, The Core?
Pretty sure Aaron Eckhart was in it.
They go down.
What a silly movie.
unidentified
One of those stupid Doomsday movies.
Yeah.
joey salads
It was like a whole bunch of those doomsday movies.
ian crossland
And now we got the pandemic.
I talk about life, art imitating life.
Like people, it's like they wanted this, this disaster.
You know, we've had these stupid zombie movies and like the end of days movies and all this like crap.
joey salads
What a disappointing disaster.
The disaster isn't the actual disaster itself.
It's the reaction to the disaster.
tim pool
What if, what if we use an AI to create TV shows, algorithmically, procedurally generated entertainment?
So instead of having to... They have that for the news.
Well, yeah, they have robots that write articles.
It's really funny.
There was one article about me that said Timothy Poole was raised by his father, Daniel Poole, and his mother, Timothy Daniel Poole.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And then I was like, the robots, bless their hearts, they're trying.
My mom's name is not Timothy Daniel Poole.
Could you imagine that?
Like, your dad's name is...
That's a bit confusing.
Imagine your mom and dad, just meeting a woman with a man's name and having Daniel as their
middle name and being like, wow, this is amazing. But anyway, they're trying.
ian crossland
I'll tell you something about that.
tim pool
But imagine this. Imagine instead of creating hiring actors and all that stuff, we just create
simulated universes where simulated people live their lives.
And then you create an interesting storyline. You kick it off and then let the AI play it out.
And people turn it on and watch it.
joey salads
We already have digital influencers.
tim pool
No, no, no, what I'm saying is, an entire planet of people, where you actually can end up getting an unlimited stream.
The movie New Guy.
The movie what?
joey salads
New Guy.
tim pool
Free Guy?
joey salads
Free Guy.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's a video game.
I'm saying, imagine if we procedurally generated a planet with people, with countries, and we just watched the interactions for our own entertainment.
And what if that's the world we're living in now?
joey salads
Yeah, that's us.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's like all this crazy stuff that's happening is like, the simulation, they say, why are we being... Maybe it's just people who are like... Interested in watching all this shit.
Well, it's entertainment.
It's like, man, I love watching that show.
They're real housewives, procedurally generated.
American Idol?
Procedurally, we don't have to hire anybody.
The computer just did it and we watch it.
ian crossland
What if the trees planted us?
unidentified
You know how we move really fast relative to the trees.
ian crossland
So from a tree's perspective, we're zipping around like lightning around it super fast.
What if 100 million years ago it planted humans and then it's watched us grow this whole time?
But to a tree, like 9,000 years is like a day.
So they get to watch us evolve over time.
tim pool
And they get to watch us chop them down and destroy forests.
ian crossland
That wasn't part of the plan.
tim pool
I don't know, when Treebeard saw what Saruman had done, he wasn't too happy about it, so... Yeah, we've given birth to something.
There is no word in, what did we say, elvish, orcish, or common.
joey salads
Did you see the movie Free Guy at all?
tim pool
Yeah, I thought it was good.
joey salads
Yeah, because they did explore a lot of what you were just saying.
tim pool
Well, but the idea for... Yeah, right.
joey salads
Because he was AI, he got consciousness, and then at the end, their, you know, their utopia was, oh, it's just a... No one gets to play anything here, they get to watch.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying.
joey salads
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So that... Well, spoiler, you spoiled the movie, I guess.
ian crossland
I'm still gonna watch it right now.
joey salads
It's been an awful long enough.
tim pool
It's incredible.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
But it's, you know, maybe that's the simulation we're in.
I mean, like, when you see how...
Luke's got this shirt, Luke Rikowsky, where it's like 1984, Brave New World, and what was the other dystopia?
ian crossland
YouTube?
I'm just kidding.
tim pool
No, it's three dystopian novels.
I don't remember which one.
ian crossland
Fahrenheit?
tim pool
Maybe, and they're all together and it says, You Are Here.
And I'm like, you gotta put V for Vendetta in there.
Because V for Vendetta was the one where a virus got released and killed a bunch of kids, and the government then locked everybody down and issued martial- Is that a book?
ian crossland
Did they write a book?
tim pool
V for Vendetta was a graphic novel.
But it was, um, the movie is different.
I think the graphic novel was like a series.
It's very different because, um, I love how people adopted the Guy Fawkes mask when Guy Fawkes was like a theocratic, uh, what's the word?
lydia smith
Theocratic?
tim pool
Theocratic fascist.
Is that one thing I know of?
ian crossland
Oh, he was?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He wanted to blow up parliament to instill a Christian theocracy in the UK.
ian crossland
Oh, that's incredible.
tim pool
Yeah, so I'm like, I don't know, that's not a good guy.
joey salads
Well, while we're talking about, I guess, some of the theories of existence, I've been thinking about this one lately.
I want to know what you think.
And it's probably already a theory.
And I feel like, what if, because everything I feel like we're experiencing, we're experiencing memories.
Like, right now.
It's already in the past.
It already happened.
And we all know time is relative.
So what if the Big Bang or everything, what if it all just happened instantly, time-wise, and it's just over in a blink of one kajillionth of a second, and we're just living memories within our heads?
tim pool
It's all relative, right?
joey salads
That's all that happens, but we're just in the memory right now.
tim pool
I've seen that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
simulator whatever it's called I've seen you just speed up time and watch years
pass and I and it's like it's like you were saying about trees watching it zap
around times relative man I was reading about there's like these tiny flies
they're so small that they don't fly they swim Wow because the fluid of air
yes because they're actually like gripping the molecules and pushing them
as if they're swimming and not flying it's crazy we might be able to do that
joey salads
one day and another thing that's crazy is like on our fingertip there's like
pretty much I got an entire universe of organisms living on our fingertips like
Size is relative.
Time is relative.
Another thing is math.
It's crazy how that's the key to everything in existence.
tim pool
We're mapping the source code of the universe.
joey salads
Another thing that gets me thinking is there's an infinite number of numbers from 0 to 1.
unidentified
Right.
joey salads
It's like if you break that down on time and seconds, it's like there's an infinite amount of points of a second within now to now.
tim pool
Just watch Ant-Man and the Wasp, man.
The quantum realm.
ian crossland
But in physics, there's a thing called the Casimir effect, where when two numbers get close enough together, they basically fuse.
Two pieces of matter, when they get close enough together, they suck together.
And no one really knows exactly why.
tim pool
You know how outer space metal does it?
In a vacuum, you can take a piece of metal and just...
ian crossland
Yeah, it seems like it gets so close that it pushes the matter out of the way between it, and then it creates a vacuum, and then it sucks itself together.
tim pool
It's the oxidized layer that prevents metals from bonding in our atmosphere.
ian crossland
So I wonder if numbers—theoretically, they don't.
Theoretically, numbers will always get half as close, half as close, half as close.
But in physics, there's the Casimir effect.
joey salads
Another crazy thing is, I guess, the 80-20 rule.
I forgot the actual name for it if you want to Google it real quick.
It's like a phenomenon that happens in pretty much almost everything.
There's exceptions to the rule but it's like 80% of your business is from 20% of your customers.
That holds throughout with like It was like 80% of all the words ever said and typed is like actually 20% of the actual vocabulary and like that kind of 80-20 rule and the way it like progressively decreases from like the number one most used this to the second to the third is like always follows the same trend lines in the same path like throughout almost everything.
tim pool
We gotta go to Super Chats!
If you haven't already, my friends, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com because we're gonna have a members-only segment coming up.
Usually goes up around 11 or so p.m.
You'll not want to miss that.
And being a member means you're supporting our work.
As things get crazier and crazier, we're definitely gonna need that support.
But let's see what y'all got to say.
All right, let's see.
All right.
Pedro Henrique says, time to be optimistic.
U.S.
isn't doomed by Thucydides' trap.
CN bubble slowly bursting as its biggest real estate company, China Evergrande, shows to be 19 times debt to earnings.
U.S.
is bleeding, but China's falling.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
That's what Peter was saying last night.
tim pool
Patrick Conover says Biden said he's going to use his presidential power to remove governors who oppose him.
The authoritarianism is growing right before our eyes.
Well, he said, get them out of the way.
Biden purging.
Yeah.
Will, Will Holman says Biden purging anyone who doesn't lick the boot.
Get them out of the way.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Michael Fernando says, peak clown world is upon us.
That corpse in the White House has lost his damn mind and gone full tyrant.
We will not comply.
And then he says, 1776 will come again.
AJ, great podcast.
Tim Katz crew.
And then he shouts out, stick, sex, stick, sex and hammer.
We'd love to have sticks on the show.
joey salads
You gotta get a soundbite of Alex Jones.
What does he say?
1776 will commence again!
He's like yelling it.
Who's he on?
tim pool
I thought that was a big mistake.
ian crossland
I think it was on his show.
tim pool
It was on Piers Morgan.
He did look a little crazy.
Right, that's always been the problem I've had with Alex Jones going back to all of this stuff is that he always, whenever he gets on TV, he just says, he's nuts.
ian crossland
You know, Charles Manson, too, he did some video or news thing where they took a picture of him and he did a crazy face, and that picture got propagated forever.
You gotta be careful when you're in the public eye of making a fool of yourself on purpose because that will track you forever, so don't do it.
joey salads
And it can destroy you, like that guy that won the election, he goes, BYAH!
unidentified
Yeah.
joey salads
That kind of like destroyed him.
ian crossland
BYAH!
Who was that?
joey salads
I don't remember.
tim pool
I don't remember being young doing it.
unidentified
Tim, who was that?
ian crossland
BYAH!
tim pool
I don't remember that guy.
unidentified
I feel like it happened now.
ian crossland
It's hugely popular.
He was like Hillary Clinton's VP pick in 2008 or something.
joey salads
I just remember being young and watching the trend like I used to watch Comedy Central
and all like the late night.
tim pool
Howard Dean.
unidentified
Yeah Howard Dean.
ian crossland
I think he was working with it.
tim pool
I can't believe that one you know was it Yeehaw or something.
unidentified
We should pull it up and play it.
tim pool
We gotta wait for Super Chess.
Martin Edgar says if you look at the executive order, legislators and their staff are exempt from the vaccine mandate.
Interesting.
Ellen Schauer says it's never a good idea to quote terrible Star Wars, but in this case, it's the best quote I can think of.
And this is how the republic ends, to applause.
Didn't you say liberty dies?
joey salads
With Thunder's applause.
tim pool
With Thunder's applause.
Someone look up the quote.
joey salads
I'll look it up.
Well, the new Star Wars movies made the prequel good.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
Sure did.
joey salads
I enjoy the prequels now.
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
Why?
joey salads
I don't know.
It's more fun now watching it, I guess, because it's corny.
You kind of know it's a little bit corny.
And if you like Star Wars, you're kind of like into the lore of it and just watching it all happen.
The new ones, they kind of just destroy it all.
ian crossland
What's your favorite force power?
joey salads
I don't know.
When I was a kid, I always wanted to move things.
ian crossland
Force push or force pull?
tim pool
What about you?
Probably the ability to influence the midichlorians to preserve life itself.
ian crossland
Well, that's powerful.
You must have mastered both the light and the dark.
tim pool
Well, if you truly want to understand the nature of the Force, you can't be scared of it like the Jedi are.
ian crossland
Speak the truth.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
We're just referencing Star Wars too much.
Tyler B says, You think the trucker shortage is bad now?
Wait until 90% of them park until this vaccine ordeal is over.
This country will come to a screeching halt in days.
Truckers have no respect for Biden, I'll tell you this, and ultimatum won't go as they plan.
And maybe that's the point.
joey salads
Maybe we need that.
tim pool
Maybe it's a great reset!
ian crossland
You know, one problem with that is it'll come to a halt in a day, but we won't see the effects until the back of the truck, the momentum, is carried past where it stopped.
So it could take a couple months.
lydia smith
Take a while, yeah.
ian crossland
Be careful.
joey salads
It's like when there's like a snake in the road on the highway.
Everyone just stops and like the snake gets bigger and bigger until it starts to pick back up again.
tim pool
Okay, XBLCorn says, you are mistaken about the banking rules coming.
They want to track every transaction in every account that has at least $600 in it.
It is not for transactions over $600.
ian crossland
I did not hear that.
That is the first I've heard that.
tim pool
You could Google search this.
I think it's ICBA.org and Google search that and Google search consumer announcement or something like that.
It should pop right up because so many people have been searching for it.
Google autofills it.
Did you find it?
ian crossland
Oh, I got the independent community banking thing.
tim pool
If you Google it, it should autofill the URL you need.
ian crossland
I don't use Google, I use DuckDuckGo.
unidentified
Alright, let's see.
tim pool
Adam Austin says, I'm an electrical contractor in Columbus.
We are down to eight employees.
$2,000 sign on bonus.
Can't hire anyone.
We are scheduling estimates two weeks out.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
If this persists, at what point does the average person at their job just go, why am I even here?
joey salads
I can't remember any store that I've been to recently that doesn't have a help wanted sign outside of it.
It's like every single one.
lydia smith
Everyone.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
A Raw says, hey Tim, long time viewer and I work for a company that supplies parts for the military and this decree would affect me and I will stand on my principles and I will not comply.
Good for you, good sir.
America 76 says, this has everything to do with rushing the destruction of the Republican free market choice and capitalism.
It is absolutely zero to do with any virus.
All of this has been intentional from the jump.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The Great Resignation.
The Great Reset.
The Post Office Exemption.
They know what's coming.
joey salads
If people really still can't see that they're just exploiting this tragedy just for more power.
I mean, it's crazy.
I've been seeing a lot of people wake up, especially on TikTok recently.
than making videos. I made a huge mistake voting for Biden.
I feel like that's like the number one thing I'm seeing. You never really see people saying, I
made a mistake voting for Trump.
People, if anything, they're realizing, oh wow, things weren't actually that bad under Trump.
unidentified
He was just orange man bad. Now there's actual bad things.
joey salads
Whereas like under Trump, the biggest issues were net neutrality and trans bathroom
issues.
lydia smith
Mean tweets.
joey salads
And mean tweets.
ian crossland
I can confirm that, guys.
Super chat.
Yeah.
The Biden administration, this is from ICBA.org.
The Biden administration is proposing required financial institutions report to the IRS all transactions of all business and personal accounts worth more than $600.
Whoa!
That's a lot of reporting.
Wow.
tim pool
Well, well, there you go.
ian crossland
Tax season will be cray cray.
tim pool
And maybe that's to get to the next step where they do these vaccine mandates.
And how do they enforce them?
The IRS.
The IRS is going to say, do you have the records of your employees that have tested negative?
We want them.
And then when you're like, no, they're going to be like, okay, it's $14,000 per violation.
That means every week, if someone's not vaccinated and they got to get a test every week, if they don't have it or you don't check $14,000.
For each one?
for each violation. Oh my god. Yeah and they gotta they gotta get tested every week.
That's why it's important to get off the grid, off the system. Be self-sufficient, get away from
ian crossland
cities. Yeah Ian made pawpaw bread earlier. Oh it was good, it was really good. I lined the pan with
coconut oil because I didn't want to use that spray on pan and that garbage stuff and uh man
unidentified
for those uh the skin is is toasted. You guys should start like a survival uh self-dependence.
We're not survivalists. We have chickens. So it'll be good seeing you guys as progression. I guess
tim pool
your vlog probably shows that. Yeah yeah definitely it shows um our our farm is now defunct. We
harvested all the crops and.
Do you think the government will ever start coming in and taxing you on the stuff you grew yourself?
ian crossland
slicing through them with a sandwich saw.
tim pool
It was cool.
joey salads
Frank cut his finger off doing that.
tim pool
You gotta be careful man.
The chickens are eating the sunflower seeds. They love them.
I don't care for them, but the pumpkins were amazing.
And we got pumpkin seeds, amazing.
The tomatoes, amazing. Zucchini, cucumbers, carrots, basil, jalapenos.
joey salads
Do you think the government will ever start coming in and taxing you on the stuff you grew yourself?
ian crossland
Not until you give it to somebody.
tim pool
What's going on?
So our chickens are now like, have teamed up to have babies.
So they all brood.
There's like, there's three chickens that brooding is when they're like sitting on the eggs.
And I came out one day and I noticed that one of the chickens was not with the group.
And I was like, Oh, what happened?
So I went to look for her and sure enough, she's sitting on all the eggs, but it's not just her eggs.
It's all, they all lay the eggs in the same spot, even though there's a bunch of different spots.
Later I come out and I see that chicken Katerina out doing her thing and I'm like, oh, I guess she's not breeding.
She's out just milling about.
So I went in and I noticed that Vanessa was missing.
She was on the eggs.
unidentified
They're taking turns!
tim pool
Then Dorothy was on the eggs.
And so these three chickens are rotating shifts.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Sitting on the eggs.
joey salads
That's normal how they operate like that.
tim pool
I guess it actually is.
Yeah, chickens like to lay eggs in the same place as other chickens.
Because they could lay eggs wherever they want, but they've decided all to lay in this one spot.
And they're taking turns.
When one chicken gets up to go eat, the other one goes in and sits on the eggs.
lydia smith
That's so cute!
tim pool
It's going to be interesting when there's like 14 babies.
So we have five Black Star chicken babies.
These are a special breed where you mix a Rhode Island Red with a Barred Plymouth Rock.
And then we have three babies.
Two of them are Leghorn Rhode Island Red Mixes, and one is an Easter Egger and a Rhode Island Red Mix, because we have Rhode Island Red Rooster.
And I think two of them are cockerels.
They're going to be roosters, and one of them is a pullet.
joey salads
Are they kind of like organic chickens, or are they filled with like... What do you mean organic?
tim pool
We birthed them here.
We incubated the eggs.
joey salads
Are they like heavily modified?
tim pool
No, no, they're just regular chickens.
joey salads
Yeah, like, I know the modified ones, I think they start growing so big, like, they break their legs, they break their bones.
tim pool
And then they just sit there laying eggs all day for the rest of their lives.
lydia smith
That's not right.
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
Crazy.
joey salads
They're bred to just self-destruct on themselves.
ian crossland
Those ag-gag orders are crazy, where you can't, like, record in those factory farms.
unidentified
That's so sick.
joey salads
I think it was like Nathan for you.
I think it was him.
I forgot who it was.
Someone did like a whole loophole to put every single label on, on, uh, on his chicken, like, you know, chicken cutlets.
He made his own farm and like, you know, what was, uh, to get them classified as free range.
No, no, it was a movie.
The guy, I think it was the guy who did Super Size Me.
I think he did another movie.
And, you know, he just put like a little opening for like one square foot.
Well, they're free-range chickens now.
They don't go outside.
And he just did all the loopholes to put everything on his label.
lydia smith
Easily done.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
Cameron Maloof says truck drivers have a CDL, which is federally regulated.
I wonder how long it will take before you have to get a vaccine in order to renew your medical card for your CDL.
Could get bad.
More shortages.
I think truckers would just be like, nah, we out.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Bye bye.
ian crossland
I think Putin said no, no mandates.
Just straight up.
Get it out of the way early.
We're not going to do that.
tim pool
Messiah Miguel says, Hey Tim, did you guys know that California passed a per mile car tax?
I'm living in ground zero for the new regime.
Also, I'm constantly getting double charged for the membership on the website.
Ooh, that's not good.
You can always email members at timcast.com.
That is, it's on the website.
That's where we take care of all this stuff.
And we'll get it sorted.
We'll try and figure it out.
But I will say, send an email.
We'll get more specific.
I don't want to give any details or anything about people's private stuff.
But that's the easiest way to do it.
ian crossland
What's this one mile per taxing per mile?
tim pool
Yeah, at the end of the year you got to take your odometer and then submit your taxes and they tax you based on how much you drove.
unidentified
If you live in California, move to a swing state.
Yes.
joey salads
Don't move to Texas.
Don't move to Florida.
Move to a swing state like Nevada.
If you want to move, hit me up.
DM me.
I got a realtor for you.
But it's important, I believe, for us to move, Republicans, to move to swing states because 15,000 more votes in Nevada flips it, okay?
Secure the elections, 15,000.
That's nothing.
California, you need millions to flip it.
Don't even waste your time.
Same thing with New York, don't even waste your time.
Go somewhere where a few thousand people can turn it red.
tim pool
Byevox says, or Byevox says, glad to see your business is doing well, Tim.
Elad was a great pickup.
I think he's highly underrated and hopefully your partnership will generate good visibility.
Keep up the great work, guys.
That's right.
Elad is doing on the ground reporting at a bunch of different protests and public events.
I think so far, mostly New York City, but he had, you know, he asks great questions.
And he went to one where it was union workers protesting the mandates, and this was a couple weeks ago, and they were like, F Trump, F Biden, we don't care, we ain't doing it!
And it's good to see when you have people on the ground reporting, it's fantastic.
All right.
Calrasoo Macha says, Hey Tim, Trucker here.
It won't take much for us to go on strike.
We already hate going into these cities, and that was before the riots.
During and after, we're playing hot potato over whose turn to tack a load into them.
Well, there you go.
lydia smith
Not surprising.
joey salads
How long before we start seeing trucks get raided in the highway, like what's going on in South Africa?
I think that happens.
unidentified
Wow.
Yep.
joey salads
It's going to happen.
tim pool
Couturiously Wise says, Tim, you're wrong about segregation.
The train companies were lobbying to desegregate.
Why pay fuel for two 50% empty segregated cars?
The market tried to end it.
Stopped by the individual state, all legislators and their guns.
Oh, interesting.
Didn't know that.
joey salads
That's interesting.
lydia smith
Makes sense.
tim pool
Alex Aiello says, Tim, just want to say as an accountant, what did we do to be your example?
I have been feeling oddly attacked as of late.
Keep up the good work.
Oh, when I said like you're an accountant and then like your job mandates vaccine or something.
Um, I don't know.
It seems like a good, like when you think of someone working in an office somewhere in a city, you know, I mean accountant, I guess.
joey salads
I don't know.
Just the go-to job sits at a desk.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a compliment.
It's like THE job, you know?
That's what I think of.
joey salads
You sit at a desk, too.
tim pool
That's right.
joey salads
Start seeing podcasters.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
Ethan Davis says, V for Vendetta.
Anyone?
I certainly think so.
unidentified
Great movie.
ian crossland
I haven't seen it in 20 years, but it was great.
tim pool
Malia Cortez says, love what Tim said in one of his earlier segments.
We're in one of those stupid movies.
Here's a movie example.
Biden just order 66'd us.
I stole that quote.
unidentified
Yup.
Yup.
tim pool
We're, we got a little bit in 1984.
Government overreach, spying.
We got a little bit of Brave New World, your video games and your social media to stimulate.
We got a little bit of Fahrenheit 451, people overly offended, wanting to burn books and shut down information.
And we got your V for Vendetta.
Pandemic resulting in government authoritarianism.
Hey, it's all there right for us to soak up.
unidentified
How about that?
joey salads
All these, uh, all these, uh, these stories from the past, these, these kind of warnings, like the Vendetta, or what he just said, it's like, it's all just coming true now.
Like, every single one of these warnings, like, you gonna wake up yet, people?
Like, every single piece of media.
tim pool
Alexandra Batik says, Tim, I just watched Atlas Shrugged.
It needs to be remade for a modern audience.
I have theater and directing experience.
Shall we start pool studios?
I do not think we could afford to make an Atlas Shrugged movie.
There is like a three-part movie where it's like each part has different actors or whatever.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Good story.
I definitely think it's really preachy.
unidentified
It's like, yeah.
lydia smith
Libertarians.
tim pool
Magnificent Devil says we do not have a free market today.
Government regulations allow big corporations to gatekeep the most powerful and influential industries, making the barrier to entry insurmountable for most.
unidentified
Agreed.
ian crossland
But that is a free market by definition.
tim pool
No it isn't.
ian crossland
Free market doesn't mean anyone can do anything.
There's all sorts of regulations.
joey salads
They're giving these trillion dollar companies in California extra perks over small business.
They want to keep them there from leaving to go to Texas.
It's the only reason why they have the largest economy.
I want to keep that title.
ian crossland
I should clarify for sure, I was being tongue-in-cheek.
It's not a real free market, even though they call it a free market.
It's completely guarded by the government that's setting up regulations and pipelines.
joey salads
We've got to strive towards a freer market.
ian crossland
A real free market could be dangerous because you get corporate monopoly, so you need to always have a sidearm to be able to break that up.
joey salads
I still feel like, for the most part, I feel like the will of the people, especially now in this communication age, I feel like it's more likely for solutions.
Maybe it's not perfect.
I don't know.
ian crossland
But to emerge within the system?
Yeah, I think you're right.
tim pool
Tim Rose says, got COVID in January of this year.
Donated my platelets and plasma to help before the vaccine came out.
Why is natural immunity getting short end of the stick?
Love your show, by the way.
Why is monoclonal antibodies being ignored?
It's expensive, I guess?
ian crossland
Yeah, two grand.
tim pool
Is it?
ian crossland
I think you mentioned that.
I thought that you were the one that said that.
tim pool
But isn't this, like...
This has got to be, like, saving lives.
Monoclonal stuff?
Yeah, monoclonal antibodies.
So, for somebody who's, like, gets sick and goes to the hospitals, I mean, we don't just let them die, right?
ian crossland
I just can't take the blinders.
unidentified
It's like, everyone, straight ahead, get the vaccine, straight ahead, everyone.
ian crossland
And it's like, dude, there's these other pieces of info.
Look around.
Let's look at this.
They're like, no, no, no, keep going forward.
Like, what's the...
tim pool
Das ist verboten!
joey salads
Reminds me of that music video.
The Pink Floyd music video where they're all just marching off into the grinder.
tim pool
Alright, PRC says, We truckers need to unite!
The vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Don't take runs into states and businesses who mandate vaccines and passports.
Nothing happens until something moves.
Vaccines are good, but mandates are evil.
I completely agree with that.
The issue is government shouldn't be dealing with your medical stuff.
I just shouldn't be doing it.
ian crossland
Unless it's a, unless it's, that's the thing, unless it's a real health threat.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
ian crossland
I mean, at some point, if that's the whole purpose is you got to protect the herd, you know.
tim pool
I disagree.
I think, I don't think the government should be getting involved regardless.
ian crossland
Ever though?
joey salads
Cause the thing is, if there was a virus that was killing as many people as, you know, would be declared, you know, like something like the black plague, I mean, but that's a little bit too extreme to Well, like, was it, was it, was it smallpox was like, what, 20% or something?
tim pool
Mortality was massive.
joey salads
People are dying from things, they'll take it upon themselves, risk to reward on vaccine.
If I get sick and I have a 20% chance of dying, maybe I'll, I'll probably take the vaccine.
I think at that point I'll take my chances.
tim pool
Because Ian, we're in a pandemic.
ian crossland
Well, they call it a pandemic, yeah.
tim pool
It is a pandemic.
ian crossland
It is, technically by definition, yeah.
tim pool
By literal definition.
It's a global epidemic.
And by the millions of people around the world who have died, and the 650,000 in the United States, it's a pandemic.
Does it warrant the extreme degree at which they're going, in my opinion?
No.
Like, mandates and all this stuff?
It's like, yo, I get it.
It's bad.
Novel virus, mutations, all that stuff.
Scary.
Not good.
It's not airborne Ebola.
So the issue is people need to be able to assess the risks themselves.
There can be things like this.
Don't cough on people.
Social distancing makes sense.
It was like, hey, stand six feet apart.
I actually think wearing a mask even, when it comes to private businesses, it comes to schools and kids, it starts getting murky.
When people are sick, they wear a mask.
Those are things where I'm like, okay, maybe we do some restrictions, we protect the vulnerable, we get back to work.
Instead, they've been like, iron fist, shut it down.
ian crossland
I never wore a mask.
For the first 40 years of my life, I never wore a mask for illness.
And it was never a problem.
They were like, look at those people in Japan wearing masks, how weird.
tim pool
And people should have.
ian crossland
You think?
They get so dirty so quick, you gotta wash them, like daily.
unidentified
And new ones.
tim pool
There's a lot of people I see in the tuper chat where like, they're saying basically, because of this, I will never get vaccinated.
And I'm like, that's the problem with Biden.
ian crossland
I'm gonna fix, listen.
Can you hear this?
Because I hear this every day.
I'm going to fix this, I promise.
It's the joint on this, this microphone.
tim pool
Why is it making that noise?
We sprayed it down with WD metal?
ian crossland
Yeah, I got to take it apart and get in there or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Aaron Tabor says, Tim, you've mentioned dehumanization before.
I've seen people on Twitter regularly referring to Republicans and unvaxxed people as plague rats.
Yes, frequently.
And that's part of the steps towards genocide.
ian crossland
No, don't refer to them as vermin.
unidentified
Don't do it.
tim pool
Calling people animals and maggots.
lydia smith
Don't do it.
ian crossland
It's not funny.
That was a Keith Olbermann thing.
unidentified
Why won't you just do what the state tells you?
tim pool
Because we're America!
I thought it was America!
joey salads
I remember when Keith Olbermann cancelled his show.
We did it.
It's imminent.
Trump's gonna be removed from office.
None of that ever happened.
That dude's nuts!
tim pool
You know who else is nuts?
Howard Stern.
unidentified
What a loser!
tim pool
Howard Stern's a loser.
I was trending on Twitter because I called Howard Stern a loser.
joey salads
I was such a fan of Howard Stern when I first watched his movie.
I was like, oh wow, this is cool.
He's like going against the system, whatever.
And then he just became this corporate shill.
tim pool
He was never against the system.
George Carlin challenged the system, got arrested for saying naughty words.
Did stand-up bits where he basically told the modern sensibilities to screw off.
He screams racial slurs as a part of his joke.
And he was anti-establishment.
Howard Stern was just riding the wave.
He's like, oh, people like this stuff?
Yo, they put him on TV.
They put him on the radio.
They gave him the ability to do this.
He was not anti-establishment.
He was the establishment.
It was just that boomers liked edgy humor.
Gen Xers came up saying, okay, we can do edgy humor too.
Boomers are retiring and Gen Xers are feckless for the most part.
So they're just like, what should we do?
Oh, the millennials are yelling in my ear.
joey salads
There's another rage against the machine situation.
tim pool
Granted, right, right, rage on behalf of the machine.
Granted, uh, Howard Stern is a boomer.
So he's the definition of okay boomer when he's like, F their freedom. I want the freedom to live.
Oh, well, I, F your freedom. I want the freedom to live.
Like, why do you get to say who gets freedom? Sorry.
You know, this guy is like, talk about somebody who built a career on being,
you know, a jag off and just being offensive.
And it's like the trope.
I don't know if he actually did this, but the joke was that, you know, firing hot dogs at women bikinis and stuff like that.
Just this sheer absurdity of his show.
joey salads
Beetlejuice.
tim pool
And then there was, uh, Michael Malice tweeted that one of his guys, his wife, one of the people who worked for him, his wife was dealing with cancer and Howard Stern would just like made fun of him for being sad.
And then when he launched a GoFundMe to help save his wife, Howard Stern just didn't contribute at all, even though he's worth like half a billion dollars.
Nice.
Yo, these are not good people.
They are bad people.
They don't give, they don't support, they don't help people out.
Yo, I donate to Save People's Pets all the time.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
tim pool
I donate a lot, actually.
Probably too much.
unidentified
Best cause.
joey salads
Can you write that off on your taxes?
lydia smith
I think you can.
unidentified
Do it.
lydia smith
In charitable giving.
ian crossland
I will make you.
tim pool
Ranroy says, Alex Jones will run in 2024 and we will make the frogs straight again.
unidentified
Yes!
I'm not convinced.
joey salads
You might ironically win.
I'll vote for him.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
I thought that Tom Cruise commercial where he was running and he was like, I'm running for something.
President.
I think he might've said, I was like, Oh, is he actually running?
Cause I will vote for him.
I can't take it anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It was just some dumb commercial.
But if we get someone to run, I mean, talk about, you need someone that's fit to serve.
lydia smith
Trump's getting fit.
Do you see that?
ian crossland
He looks better than he did.
joey salads
I'm worried he's gonna get too old by the time it comes around.
ian crossland
I wonder if he's on all that life extension stuff.
joey salads
He's gotta be.
ian crossland
NAD plus and nicotine by mononucleotide.
tim pool
James Garlick says, Thomas Paine in Common Sense regarding parents opposed to war with quote, but I have children, essentially calling them bad parents.
Quote, let there be troubles in my day that my children may know peace.
lydia smith
Best quote.
Love that quote.
tim pool
I just think, you know, When your kids are in the gulag, make sure they know Mandarin.
That was Jack Posobiec's joke.
He was like, my job in the prison camp is to teach people Mandarin so that we can interact with the guards.
Well, there you go.
Yeah, if you don't want to stand up for your way of life or your country, for your values, then just start teaching your kid Mandarin.
And I literally mean it.
I'm not being facetious like, it's a useful language.
It's second most spoken language in the planet.
And if you are totally down with the hegemonic rise of China, then just be ready to have to interact with these new business deals.
joey salads
Even if you're not down with it and you just see, well, that's the way things are starting to go.
I mean, I'm only one person.
Can't make that much of a difference to stop the rise of China and the rise of Biden, the rise of the Democrat establishment.
I remember when I was younger, I always learned Spanish.
It was like one of the things because of all the immigrants coming in and, you know, if you're working in a kitchen or... Mandarin.
tim pool
Now Mandarin's gonna be... It's because of business, right?
So English is the business language of the world.
That's why English is basically everywhere for a lot of reasons.
But soon, Mandarin.
I know a lot of people who speak Mandarin, to be completely honest.
joey salads
And I feel like also China is... I feel like they're the ones that would want to force the rest of the world to learn their language.
Because that's like a power.
tim pool
I don't know.
They speak English.
joey salads
They do, they do.
tim pool
Yeah, we don't speak Mandarin, but it's gonna change.
That's why I'm saying, like, hey, give your kids a leg up, man.
Oh, yeah, like the alphabet and writing is tough, right?
All right, let's see.
Patriot American says, I'm glad you mentioned Directive 51, Tim.
I just finished playing both the Division games and watched all of the lore videos.
It's mind-boggling to me how similar the situation in the games are to what we've been seeing this past year.
You guys know the Division?
I don't know the plot.
There's a pandemic, so the President enacts Directive 51, you know, activating the Division, a special elite task force to go and try and restore, you know, government authority or something like that.
And then part two is, the first one's in New York.
Man, it's New York.
It's awesome.
Running around New York, and I know New York, so it's like you're in Manhattan, and I'm like, I know where everything is.
And then in D.C., it's like you're in the White House, and like, you're running through D.C., and I don't know D.C.
as well.
I used to, because I played Fallout 3 a lot, but still, really, really fun games.
Like, you can launch drones up and fly around and stuff, and you have gadgets.
Dude, it's a legit fun game.
Yeah, game's good, good.
Haven't played it in a while, though.
joey salads
I wonder what the new GTA is gonna be.
What I was hoping is that they were gonna map the real world.
ian crossland
Yeah.
joey salads
Like they did with the flight simulator.
I'm hoping that they just come out like, hey, you can just play in the world.
ian crossland
And then VR.
joey salads
And VR.
That'd be so cool.
But I feel like it's going to be a lot of problems when you're driving cars into people's houses.
Real houses.
ian crossland
I wonder if you'll get people to like authorize the use of their house in the games.
Then you can pay them like a one cent per sale.
joey salads
Microsoft Flight Simulator.
You can actually fly around in a plane of the real world.
You can have a co-pilot too.
ian crossland
It's like multiplayer.
joey salads
I tried to play it.
It's too difficult.
It's not really fun.
ian crossland
I got a buddy who's a pilot.
I'm thinking about jumping in and co-piloting with him one day.
tim pool
Jesus Sanchez says, Tim, Stargate.
Season 4, episode 16.
Watch it.
It has to do with jabs.
It's on Netflix.
I don't know if this is the episode you're referring to, but there's one episode where they... You remember Stargate?
joey salads
Yeah.
tim pool
Awesome show, by the way.
I watched it on Comet, and they restarted over.
There's a bunch of episodes I missed, but I've seen a ton of the episodes so far.
But there's one planet they go to where there's this advanced network of planets.
They're unfamiliar with the Stargate network, which connects all these different planets through wormholes.
But they're extremely advanced, and they have great technology.
And they come to this planet that's mostly agrarian, where there's farmers.
They have big machines harvesting crops and dropping them in the Stargates to transport food to their planets.
And they talk to this little farmer guy, and he's like, they leave us alone, don't bother us, so we're fine.
But then they go into a cave, a couple of them, and they discover the remnants of a civilization akin to 1910s the United States, with like industrial development, that just ceased to exist.
And they find a newspaper, and it's written in like a form of Gaelic, because the point of Stargate is that aliens were enslaving different humans and transporting all over the universe.
Basically, the plot is this advanced alien race created a biological weapon that sterilizes people.
And what they did was they say, we'll give you our great technology.
Oh, you have a pandemic, a flu pandemic.
Here, this vaccine will save you.
And it did.
But then all of a sudden, nobody could have kids and the entire civilization collapsed.
But there's also Utopia.
You guys ever see that one?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
Yeah, they cancelled it because of COVID, I think.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
It's about a big tech mogul who creates a fake pandemic in order to sell his vaccine, which sterilizes people.
And it was on Amazon last year.
It's a show on Amazon.
And they cancelled it, I guess, because they were, like, a little too, you know... Poorly timed.
Yeah, poorly timed.
It was about, like, there was a guy who was writing a comic that predicted a lot of what was going to happen, because he had, like, access or whatever.
And so they're, like, trying to read the comic to figure out what's going to happen.
And I'm like, that's really funny, because, like, in our world, there's a TV show saying all this stuff is happening, and, like, you're trying to watch a TV show.
It's just a TV show.
I don't think it's, you know, real or whatever, but they still cancelled it, which just makes people more conspiratorial, you know?
lydia smith
Black Mirror.
tim pool
All right.
Sorta says, OMG, I can't believe you said that, bro.
Keep Californians in California.
They voted for it.
They should eat it.
joey salads
But the thing is, there's still how many million Californians out there that are not voting for that stuff that want to be free.
If you send every single Republican in California and properly disperse them across every single swing state, we would win every single state except California and New York.
All right.
unidentified
So disperse.
tim pool
All right, we'll just do one more.
We got Koldilocks Production says, if my job follows this mandate, I will say no or I will quit, no questions asked.
I will not comply.
Stand up for yourself, you know, speak up, peaceful, non-compliance, resourceful, persuasive, all that good stuff.
Head over to TimCast.com, become a member.
We're gonna start putting together this members-only segment for all y'all, and that'll be available around 11 or so p.m.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
Don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe to this channel.
And if you'd like to follow me personally, because I post typically sarcastic nonsense and troll posts on Twitter, it's at TimCast.
And the funniest thing is, I have this post about how there's 659,000 heart disease deaths every year.
Mostly in people older than 60, but it scales down to a decent amount.
And I'm like, we gotta shut everything down.
We gotta ban unhealthy food.
We gotta mandate exercise.
We should mandate heart medication for everyone, especially children.
And boy, do these people not understand life.
You know what the funniest thing was?
When I called Howard Stern a loser, I got a wave of Howard Stern fans telling me that I was poor.
And I was just like, I don't understand why I'm supposed to care.
I called Howard Stern a loser because I have a very low opinion of him.
And your response is, yeah, but he's rich.
I know the dude's rich.
joey salads
It's like when Bloomberg was running.
Well, who doesn't know he's rich?
Our billionaire has more billions than your billionaire.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
And I was just like, I'm like, that's so weird that you would, like, tweet at me like, haha, you're poor.
But it's like, for one, I'm not.
And two, what does that have to do with me calling Howard Stern a loser?
Like, is there a group of people criticizing him or Joe Rogan who know that, who think they're not rich?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Whatever, man.
Anyway, TimCast.com.
Joey, you want to shout anything out?
joey salads
Yeah, I guess if you're on YouTube, you can check out my new YouTube channel, The Joey Saladino Show.
It's like a conservative news podcast.
It's also on all the podcast apps, The Joey Saladino Show.
You can type it in anywhere, you'll find it.
ian crossland
Cool, man.
Yeah, formiancrossland.net and iancrossland on social media.
Thanks.
lydia smith
I do have to say that I really love Joey's idea of encouraging people to move out of heavily blue states and into swing states.
As someone from Colorado, which was red and then became purple and is now blue because of California, I highly recommend influencing these states and I think that is a recipe for success.
Good idea.
Anyway, you guys may follow me on Twitter at Sarah Patch Kids as I attempt to gain more followers than Sarah Patch Kids.
tim pool
We will see all of you at TimCast.com in the members only segment.
Thanks for hanging out.
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