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Timcast IRL - 13 American Troops Lose Their Lives In Kabul Attack, Biden Vows Revenge w/Becket Adams
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tim pool
Peace.
It's been a very tumultuous past, I guess, couple of weeks, couple of months in Afghanistan.
And today, you know, mid-morning, we get some of the most horrifying news that there was an attack.
We're now getting confirmation up to, so far, 13 U.S.
service members have lost their lives.
And there's some crazy stuff I read.
Look, I want to say with the breaking news, it's hard to know what all the details are.
Different sources are giving different numbers.
The most up-to-date that I've been able to find says 13 U.S.
service members have lost their lives.
I read one story that said that the U.S.
had warned the American troops at the airport in Kabul that there was a strong possibility of a terror attack.
In the morning, the UK and the US advised all people, especially their citizens, to avoid the area.
And these brave men and women stayed doing their jobs, knowing, being told, that there is a very strong likelihood of a terror attack.
Now we're learning that they lost their lives.
Of course, there's a lot going around.
Republicans are absolutely coming after Biden on this one.
He botched the whole thing.
He abandoned Bagram Air Force Base before evacuating civilians.
And now we're learning that there's a wild, wild estimate of the Americans that are still in Kabul.
Some say it's only a few thousand.
Apparently, some reports say it could even be in the tens of thousands, maybe 30,000.
We don't know for sure.
And the U.S.
government, Biden administration, is not actually confirming these numbers.
But my friends, I hope you are ready to be angry Because it's not my intent to make you angry every day.
But we have reporting now from Politico that the U.S.
gave the names of American citizens and Afghan allies to the Taliban.
Telling them, like, here's the people that we want out.
One defense official said they just put those people on the kill list.
This is bad.
It's bad.
And I'm sure, I feel like we're gonna be in this conversation for quite a bit.
Apparently Glenn Beck has personally traveled down there.
This is crazy stuff.
You know, we'll talk all about it, but man, that is mad respect.
Absolutely, absolutely tremendous respect.
So we're gonna have to get into this and just...
We got other stories.
We do, but we definitely got to talk about this.
So joining us today is senior commentary for the Washington Examiner, Beckett Adams.
t becket adams
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Do you want to just give a quick introduction for yourself?
t becket adams
Yeah, I do senior commentary for the Washington Examiner.
I enjoy especially covering politics, but mostly keep an eye on what the media is up to.
tim pool
Right on, right on.
unidentified
Cool.
ian crossland
Dig it, man.
tim pool
Hey.
Is that a captain's uniform?
ian crossland
Yes.
Reporting to the bridge, Tim.
I'm here and I'm ready for you.
tim pool
Ian's wearing a Star Trek shirt.
ian crossland
This is the next generation Star Trek red shirt, so I'm not the first guy that gets sent down on my death.
unidentified
Good, good.
lydia smith
I was worried, yeah.
ian crossland
I'm actually one of the commanders, so get ready.
lydia smith
Awesome.
ian crossland
Sup, dog?
lydia smith
I'm excited for tonight's conversation, but I am disturbed by what's been going on, so hopefully we can get all the way to the bottom of it.
tim pool
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Let's just quickly go into the more serious nature of what's happening.
Here's a story.
This is one of the most recent stories we've been able to find.
ABC7 reporting at 7 p.m.
13 U.S.
service members killed in Kabul airport attacks.
Biden says attackers will pay.
We will not forgive.
We will not forget.
We will hunt you down and make you pay, Biden said.
Two suicide bombers and gunmen attacked crowds of Afghans flocking to Kabul's airport Thursday, transforming a scene of desperation into one of horror in the waning days of an airlift for those fleeing the Taliban takeover.
The attacks killed at least 60 Afghans and 13 U.S.
troops, Afghan and U.S.
officials.
I think one of the most harrowing things I heard was a man who was an interpreter for the Marine Corps.
Called into Fox News and said that after the blast there was a, you know, five-year-old little girl that he was trying to resuscitate and she died in his arms.
This didn't have to happen.
Why are we in this mess?
t becket adams
No, this had to happen.
So much of the criticism that has been directed at the Biden administration, which, by the way, they've tried to deflect by conflating criticism for how we are withdrawing with the very sort of non-existent criticism that we should have never left.
The main argument isn't we shouldn't leave Afghanistan.
I think most people actually do support that.
A lot of polling shows that, especially recent polling.
The criticism is for how we have done it.
In the week since this has happened, it has been clear that everything they have done has been made up as they go.
There was no plan.
They claim they planned for all contingencies.
Clearly, they did not.
They evacuated the military before they evacuated our allies and civilians.
tim pool
In the dead of night, no less.
t becket adams
And they didn't inform the field commander at Bagramir base, by the way.
They didn't tell the Afghani commander.
They just, Irish goodbye overnight.
After 20 years, it's like a bad boyfriend.
So one thing that I hear repeatedly when I criticize or I talk about this on social media or write about it are these kind of, you know, the Twitter Biden stans respond with, oh, could you could you be doing it better?
Yes.
Yes, I could.
Number one, you evacuate your civilians first, leave your military there as a rear guard, then you take out your combat troops.
So don't close down Bagram.
It has two airstrips.
It's also secluded and strategically situated.
Instead, they've bottlenecked everyone in an international airport in Kabul that's surrounded by the Taliban.
And we're now completely dependent on whether or not the Taliban will pretty please let our people live.
tim pool
How many people in Kabul?
Five million or something like that?
t becket adams
Roughly.
I'd have to double check.
But so it's a very dense urban populated area.
And now we're asking our soldiers and Marines and everyone else over there to essentially ferry these people to safety, despite the fact they're completely surrounded.
tim pool
This needs to be stressed to all of the people who are desperate to say it's not Biden's fault.
First thing I'll give you is when they say it's George W. Bush fault, I go, all right, well, to a certain degree, I would agree with that.
But Donald Trump had a peace deal and a plan for, for, for the evacuation, for the pullout.
And yeah, I don't think Joe Biden had a plan.
t becket adams
No, that's the thing too, is like, look, we can say Trump's plan was garbage.
We can say it was ill-advised.
We can say it was stupid.
That doesn't matter.
Biden is not beholden to it.
He's a grown ass president.
He can make his own decisions.
And he has shown repeatedly, he has no problem overturning Trump executive actions, Trump policies, or anything else related to Trump.
He ran on the fact that he would overturn everything.
So the idea that, cause he's been striking this bizarre tone where it's paradoxical, where he says, no, yeah, I made the decision because I care about America also.
My hands are tied, what can I do?
tim pool
Already, we gotta break this down and make sure everybody understands this.
The original deadline was May 1st.
You should not, in the middle of the night, skip out on your strategic air force base, which is, I believe, about 45 miles outside of Kabul.
It's got, what, two runways?
t becket adams
Two runways, yeah.
tim pool
So, I mean, the first thing I started reading when I'm reading from the opinions of national security experts, military experts, in these various op-eds, Why did they, in the middle of the night, abandon the base, along with our resources, our weapons, just the Blackhawk helicopters, and then say, okay, now for everybody who's still there, if you want to leave, go to the airport.
I'm just, I'm confused.
I'm genuinely confused, because let me just stress this point.
Either they're really, really dumb, or they did it on purpose.
t becket adams
This is something we keep coming back to where you, you know, the old saying is never attribute malice to that which can be explained simply by stupidity.
tim pool
Hand lens razor.
t becket adams
Thank you.
lydia smith
My favorite.
t becket adams
But you're looking at this is how we left military aircraft, which now the Taliban have and they're almost certainly going to sell that to the Chinese or Russians to disseminate and study and make their own versions.
We have hundreds of guns.
We left millions of dollars.
We left trucks.
And then again, taking military out first doesn't make any sense.
You look at this and you go, why and how?
I keep getting stuck on that.
And the sort of the nonsensical approach that Biden has taken to this every step of the way is we had to get out.
And then when the Taliban came and overran the country, nobody saw this would happen.
Then the bombs go off today.
And essentially it's, well, you know, this is why we have to leave.
And also we have to leave and also send in more troops because we now need to go get the people who did this.
What is their plan?
tim pool
Where is the political commentary gone from?
What, a couple days ago it was, this is literally Trump's plan, it's Trump's fault.
Now they're saying, bombs go off all the time in Afghanistan, that's why we're leaving.
t becket adams
So it goes to the point, we're like, who cares if this is Trump's thing?
You are president now.
That's what he said.
He did say that.
his press conference, President Biden was, is if he takes full responsibility for the
dead Marines and the Navy medic, the corpsman.
And he answered, not even loosely paraphrasing, I take full responsibility.
But remember, this was Trump's plan.
That's what he said.
He did say that he was responding to Peter Doocy at Fox News.
tim pool
Trump's plan was not to leave in August.
t becket adams
Right.
tim pool
It was May 1st.
t becket adams
That's the other thing to point out is that he keeps saying, I am tied to what Trump did.
They already blew through the deadline established by the Trump administration.
And the point we keep coming back to is Trump's plan didn't involve shuttering Bagram, getting the military out first, and then abandoning U.S.
nationals and our allies.
That was never in the Trump plan.
tim pool
It's hard for me to believe they're this dumb, to be completely honest, because you know that if you pull the military out before the civilians and you abandon an Air Force base, you know this is going to happen.
t becket adams
So, I mean, look, we keep coming back.
Is it stupidity?
Because they say we didn't have any intelligence.
General Miley said we didn't have anything indicating that the Taliban would essentially retake the entire country within seven days.
The intelligence community is saying otherwise.
Is this like the line from the old Dire Straits song?
Two men say they're Jesus, one of them's got to be wrong?
That's what this feels like.
Okay, somebody's not telling the truth right now.
There's got to be hearings on this.
ian crossland
I mean, they knew.
Of course they knew they were ready to take the country in seven days.
They'd known that we were evacuating for like eight months.
They've been ready for this moment.
tim pool
No, but we weren't supposed to pull logistics and support for the Afghan security forces.
ian crossland
Yeah, they smelled blood and they seized the opportunity.
tim pool
Well, there were videos going back a month or two ago where the Afghan commandos were fighting back.
And then when there's this video, it's horrifying.
They run out of ammo.
So they surrender.
And the Taliban comes in and executes them all.
Films it all.
Puts it on the internet.
So they didn't immediately just say, we give up.
No, the Biden administration abandoned them, as you mentioned, didn't even tell the, was it the commander, the Afghan?
t becket adams
Yeah, he was the airfield commander there.
Yeah, at Bagram.
He was the Bagram commander of the Afghan army.
ian crossland
I'm looking at a satellite image of Bagram and Kabul.
Who in their right mind would think that evacuating Bagram would make any sense?
If you look on the map, they're like in a valley together, Kabul and Bagram, surrounded by mountains, like defensible location.
Why would they abandon that airstrip?
t becket adams
The only way you can get to that airstrip is with trucks or with, what's the word I'm looking for, with an air force.
Neither of which, well, Taliban have trucks, but they have an air force.
lydia smith
Yeah, they do.
t becket adams
Because we abandoned Bagram!
This is the thing.
Biden also claimed today that he was advised by his top commanders and military advisors that Bagram could be left because it didn't provide much of a strategic output.
So like again, I don't want to jump on the impeach train or whatever too soon, but at this point there need to be hearings.
Especially now that American blood has been shed, which I just want to clarify.
One of the more really irritating and insidious narratives that has been kind of bubbling up in the press right now is Well, you know, not a lot of Americans have died.
What about our Afghan allies?
They're being hunted.
They're being executed.
Their homes are being, you know, door to door.
They're being dragged down the street.
They're being tortured.
That doesn't matter, just as long as American blood's not shed.
tim pool
And now they're saying, well, you know, the bombs go off.
It happens all the time.
And of course, that's why we're getting out in the first place.
It's not Biden's fault.
No, I'll tell you what I said, what many people said, what almost every single person we've had on this show has said.
It is such common sense.
Abandoning American citizens in Kabul.
Abandoning Bagram Air Force Base.
You better prepare yourself for what's to come the next several days when we start seeing the blood of Americans and our allies.
Now, what we're seeing here Man, it's like it's got getting punched in the gut because we knew it was bad already.
And we are.
I kind of feel like in the past few days I was thinking like, wow, Biden screwed this one up.
But hearing that they were securing the airport and they were getting out, I was like, OK, he botched this.
Americans are going to be stranded.
But maybe this ends at the very least without reaching this level.
Like I didn't I didn't.
Part of me, I guess, wanted to hold out thinking like we're not going to see, you know, bombs going off at the airport.
t becket adams
I mean, I guess I'll just disagree.
I thought the moment that they bottlenecked themselves in Kabul, surrounded by the Taliban, we're completely at the mercy.
tim pool
What I'm saying, emotionally.
I was sitting here thinking, like, it's gonna be okay.
Like, the Americans are in trouble, that I get.
Our allies, they're in there.
But I have a feeling, like, there's a chance that we're gonna at least just taper off here.
It's not gonna escalate to that point.
And I think it was me being naively hopeful, you know what I mean?
ian crossland
Well, but also, like I was saying before the show too, the Taliban, I think the Taliban wants to be recognized legitimately as the government of Afghanistan, so they're willing to play ball here and make sure these people get out safely, but there's lots of rogue elements with explosives that want to kill.
t becket adams
Well, ISIS-K has claimed responsibility for the bombing today, which apparently ISIS-K is the off-branch of the old ISIS, but to your point, I think a lot of us are going to have to prepare ourselves emotionally, mentally, spiritually, whatever, for if there are Americans left behind, which I guess I should add right now, the White House is very clearly signaling that they themselves believe Americans will be left behind.
They will be captured and we will see happen to them most likely what ISIS has done to their prisoners.
They line them up in their orange suits and they make propaganda out of them.
tim pool
It's worse than that.
My friends, I hope you are prepared for the next story we have for you and I hope you're prepared to sit, I hope you're sitting down for this.
With the amount of people that are estimated to be trapped in Afghanistan, be it Afghan allies, even the citizens, but American citizens especially, who we have a responsibility to as our, as our, you know, Our brothers and sisters, you know, as well as our Afghan allies for sure, and to humanity in general, there's estimates between 1,000-2,000 at the low end, where they're like, oh there's about 1,000 or 2,000 left of American citizens we've got to evacuate.
Some are saying that it was, you know, NBC News reported 15,000, then they evacuated about 4,500, so it might be 10,000.
When we hear, and I want you to remember this, that there are American hostages, I want you to remember what the Biden administration did from Politico.
U.S.
officials provided Taliban with names of Americans and Afghan allies to evacuate.
Quote, basically, they just put all those Afghans on a kill list, said one, one official, one defense official.
I don't see why that would be untrue for the Americans.
Biden did this with Vladimir Putin.
Remember that?
He was like, hey, here's the list of things we don't want you to attack.
And they're like, thanks for the hit list of your most important infrastructure.
Now they're coming out and being like, here are the people we really care about.
Like, oh, so the ransom's doubled, eh?
t becket adams
Or not even the people we care about.
Hey, by the way, here are these people.
These people have been hiding, they've been begging for help.
It was actually my old buddy from Washington Examiner, Phil Wegman, he's now with RealClear.
He was the one who asked the President today at the press conference about this report.
He says, can you comment on it?
And the President essentially confirmed it, saying there may be such lists being given to the Taliban, but I'm not sure.
Which is, again, that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in me that the Commander-in-Chief apparently doesn't know what's going on over there.
tim pool
We've seen the Taliban beating people.
There's a video of an Australian man.
He's being beaten.
He's covered in blood.
The Taliban can claim whatever they want, but they... Look, the leadership, like you mentioned just previously, Ian, that they want to be seen as... They do want to be seen as a legitimate government.
They're calling themselves the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
They don't want to be just this rogue element, the Taliban.
They want to be the government.
ian crossland
But they can't control their own people right stuff gets leaked look that that list is gonna get leaked look even if
t becket adams
they want To be a legitimate government. I think the fact that we're
losing sight of the fact that it's the fanatic death cult And we are now completely at their mercy. We are look I can
I can get down this road later We are the greatest country the biggest superpower
I love America, and we are completely beholden to the whims of a fanatic death cult in Afghanistan.
tim pool
By choice!
By Biden's choice!
t becket adams
And the fact that there's a question about whether this administration won't move earth and heaven to save its own citizens.
Any country or a government that doesn't make every possible effort to rescue its own people is not a country that deserves to be one.
tim pool
I got to read you this paragraph. US officials in Kabul gave the Taliban a list of names of
American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies to grant entry into the militant controlled
outer perimeter of the city's airport, a choice that's prompted outrage behind the scenes from
lawmakers and military officials. It seems like the Biden administration is treating these people
like any other country or government when they literally just stormed in, killed a bunch of
Afghan security forces, started taking over cities and they're like, yeah, here, here's a list of
names for your checkpoints.
Do you think that the Taliban checkpoints are legitimate checkpoints where they're going to be like, oh, yes, an American passport, right this way, sir.
Or they're gonna be like, we got an American, okay, right that way, sir.
t becket adams
Maybe, to your point, they might for the Americans, because they don't want to start another match.
Who knows if Biden will actually make good on his threat, that ISIS-K will be met with swift retribution.
Those Afghan allies, those people are as good as dead.
The Taliban will make an example out of them.
Oh, yeah.
Those people don't have a chance.
Now they know where they are and they know they're coming.
tim pool
This is the one thing that I think might naively be giving me hope.
That the Taliban is scared.
You start going after these American citizens, and you're gonna give them an excuse for re-entry.
And they want the Americans gone.
They want us out.
The Afghans who are staying behind?
Well, they're the apostates.
ian crossland
They're refugees.
They should be admitted status, refugee status to the United States.
tim pool
Our allies?
Oh, absolutely.
ian crossland
The translators, the families of the translators.
t becket adams
The fact that we didn't get them out first.
We knew this was going to happen.
We knew the Taliban would come after these people.
We saw this in Iraq after ISIS came.
My brother served in Iraq as a U.S.
Marine, and one of the first things ISIS did when they came to power and started marauding through the Middle East is they killed anyone who worked with the United States Marines.
So a lot of guys my brother worked with are now dead.
There's precedent for this.
tim pool
But where we're at right now is that U.S.
officials actually gave the names of these people to the Taliban.
That's a kill list.
I agree with a defense official.
Like we can say, we're crossing our fingers that the Taliban has enough control, they're going to say, get these Americans out of here before we cause more trouble.
But this list of Afghan citizens who worked with them?
Nah, they're done.
t becket adams
I mean, the Biden administration in this regard, I think is correct, is that we have shared interests with the Taliban.
We want to leave, they want us out.
So they may play ball to a degree, but the fact that here we are hoping and praying, please, fanatic death cult, play ball.
I mean, this, we put ourselves in this.
The biggest, most powerful country in the world, aside from maybe China, has put itself in this position.
And now we're just hoping and praying, but I'm telling you, those Afghan allies, they are as good as dead.
tim pool
You know how we put ourselves in this position?
t becket adams
How?
tim pool
Trump was anti-elected.
t becket adams
Can you just explain that?
tim pool
There was no enthusiasm for Joe Biden in the election.
None.
It was like 20% or something.
Enthusiasm for Donald Trump was in the 90s.
Enthusiasm against Trump was also very, very high.
And so this is what happens when you say, we will literally vote for anything because the orange man is bad.
We had a man in Joe Biden who couldn't talk, so they made up that he had a stutter.
You go watch videos from Joe Biden when he was in the Senate.
He doesn't have a stutter.
He never had a stutter.
Maybe when he was a little kid, I guess.
Fine.
Now they're claiming that his inability to speak, his memory failings.
Oh, it's just he's got a stutter.
Stop being mean to him.
No, no, no.
People were willing to elect a man who was old and incapable simply because they hated Trump.
And I mentioned this the other day, I genuinely believe there would at least be adults in the room like, okay, well, you know, this happened, but there's gonna be some adults in the room who are at least gonna be like, you know, when Grandpa falls asleep, I'll take this over and we'll finish up these documents and get a plan ready and just, you know, wheelchair him into the sun with a little burlap blanket on his lap.
No, they didn't.
And now I kind of understand what's really going on with this administration.
That Biden's at the meeting, and he mutters and stumbles, and they all just kind of look at each other and go, whatever, because all I care about is me.
Where's Kamala Harris when all this goes down?
Don't look at me, she's gone.
So now I genuinely believe that in this administration with Joe Biden, Milley, Kamala Harris, they don't know, they don't care.
They're probably just thinking like, hey man, I'm not going to do anything that grants me the responsibility for this one.
So if Biden mutters and falls asleep, we're just going to say, fine.
Because then when it all goes belly up, his fault, not ours.
t becket adams
Right.
tim pool
Instead of being the adults in the room and being like, Biden, abandoning an Air Force base for an embassy is a bad idea.
Mark Milley, what did he say?
He said, I was ordered to guard the embassy.
Did you maybe just think, um, Mr. President, we have to guard the Air Force base.
How are we going to, how are we going to evacuate people?
No, he was just like, you got it.
White rage.
t becket adams
Right.
I mean, these are career bureaucrats.
Someone like Kamala Harris isn't going to risk everything she's climbed her way to the top to get in order to tell Biden no.
ian crossland
In order to save 20,000 people.
Yeah, she's not going to risk her career.
t becket adams
Are they really that craven?
I mean, to me, this is one of those things.
I'm trying to think of like a parallel.
Now it's too dark.
Well, okay, Catholic sex abuse is such a clear-cut thing that the Church should be fighting.
I'm a Roman Catholic, by the way, so I'm not just dumping on the Catholic Church.
The fact that it is struggling to deal with what is clearly a vile and evil thing, and it's turned into a like, you know, it's difficult sometimes.
No, no, this is so easy.
How are you struggling with this?
Likewise, in a different thing.
tim pool
That's dark.
unidentified
It's very dark.
tim pool
Let's get back to the administration.
t becket adams
No, but it's something like that.
It was like, how are you struggling with the question of getting every American out?
This is so easy.
This is so basic.
Every major great civilization has put a premium on its own people and the fact that they're actually using language.
The one thing, watch this.
Jen Psaki and all of them are saying, using that weird phrase, that terminology, Americans who wanted to leave.
unidentified
Right.
t becket adams
They're already laying the groundwork for the Americans who are going to be left behind because they can claim they didn't want to leave.
Actually, the president said that today in his press conference.
He said there were a lot who didn't want to leave because they got family.
And the thing is, once America pulls out and Taliban takes over, who is going to double check that claim?
A bunch of American journalists are going to fly into Taliban controlled Afghanistan?
tim pool
This is priorities.
What has the Biden administration prioritized?
Nation building.
That's it.
So when they decide they're going to be getting out, American citizens are not their priority at all.
It's just, this was our priority, we're leaving, fine.
Everything else we don't give a damn about.
t becket adams
But how can it not be?
Look, let's put the moral aspect, the way that it's morally decrepit.
that they are dancing around this issue and hemming and hawing on the issue of saving Americans and Afghan allies.
Let's look at the political issue.
This doesn't go away.
I know Reuters reported recently that the White House strategy is essentially to just wait this out.
They think people will forget about it after it comes and goes.
No, this is going to be so much worse.
First of all, it already is worse than Saigon.
And Saigon didn't have people with cameras in their pockets everywhere.
You had a couple of major news wires taking photos.
Everyone is going to see this.
And I'm telling you, if Americans are left and they're captured and they're made into propaganda tools and killed and executed, you don't weather that.
tim pool
No, he's got to resign.
t becket adams
No.
And then you have President Kamala.
tim pool
I know.
I tweeted that.
I said, with all the talk about impeaching Joe Biden, which would you prefer, President Biden or President Harris?
Most people said President Biden.
I know, right?
t becket adams
Can I just take the arsenic?
tim pool
Somebody said, don't forget to include Pelosi, because if you get Kamala, I don't see grounds for impeaching Kamala.
t becket adams
Well, it turns into this whole weird thing where the Senate is already split, so I don't even think she gets the Vice President, because that's a lopsided vote.
That's a whole weird thing, that's a parliamentarian.
But we get into the issue, so what is the political angle?
I can't, look, the moral angle we can simply, maybe simplistically say, they're just bad people.
Which I think is fairly true at this point.
But the political angle is like, what are you doing?
So I keep coming back to this.
Why are we doing it this way?
You are going to get killed in the midterms.
You're going to get killed in the election.
If there are images of mass groups of Americans getting executed, God forbid, I'm not going to knock on wood like Joe Biden.
He did that in his interview with George Stephanopoulos.
Did you see that?
When Stephanopoulos was like, was this the best way to do it?
And he's like, look, you know, it's working out.
And Stephanopoulos said, there's a lot of pandemonium.
And the president, I'm not making this up, said, but look, nobody died.
And then he continued.
I was like, oh, God, you're actually knocking on wood.
Literally doing it!
tim pool
You wanna know?
t becket adams
So politically, why are they doing this?
There's no upside to what they're doing.
There's no rhyme or reason unless chaos is the answer.
tim pool
Because Biden is incompetent, he is well past his abilities to do this in his age, and the people around him are just sitting there waiting to scoop up the scraps.
It's almost like there's no one there to actually support administration.
That's why I say Trump got anti-elected.
Because this is not an administration.
They're not stepping up and saying, Biden, let me take care of this.
Let me try and fix some of this.
They're just sitting there.
I'd imagine Kamala Harris is sitting behind the curtain with a grin like, oh, it's almost my time.
This is exactly what I was hoping for.
You want to know, out of everybody, who's actually doing stuff for the people in Afghanistan?
It is a surprise the hell out of me.
ian crossland
Well, Glenn Beck, I hear.
tim pool
Glenn Beck.
Check out this story from The Blaze.
Glenn Beck travels to the Middle East, shares updates from Afghanistan rescue efforts, and photos featuring scores of Afghan Christians boarding private planes.
Glenn Beck is an extremely wealthy man.
He has absolutely no reason.
He doesn't need to do this to prove anything to anybody.
He's not gonna bolster his... He's rich already and successful with a massive brand and a massive company.
And he's doing this because, in my opinion, he means it.
And he's doing something good because he can.
That, to me, is incredible.
Some other people, there's a lot of organizations that are fighting for this as well, that are trying to get people out.
We saw that one individual, I think his name was Matt Zeller, was that his name?
t becket adams
Yeah, Matt Zeller, yeah.
tim pool
He appeared on MSNBC talking about how they've been warning the Biden administration for years.
t becket adams
He's a former Afghanistan veteran, by the way.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
About our allies who need our help.
I could not imagine, you know, being somebody who served over there, who met a lot of good people, who risked their necks to help you, Secure the city, you know, stop terror attacks, and then when you leave, our government says, oh, that guy you knew and worked with for a few years?
Your buddy?
We're gonna leave him to die.
But not to rehash all that, we got this story about Glenn Beck.
This is really incredible.
The Blaze reports, and The Blaze is Glenn Beck's outlet.
Conservative firebrand Glenn Beck and the Nazarene Fund's incredible efforts in rescuing Afghan Christian refugees are paying off, and Beck and the Nazarene Fund together have been able to free scores and scores of people from war-torn Afghanistan.
Absolutely amazing.
At the time of this reporting, the Nazarene Fund has raised more than $30 million to aid in the rescue of Afghan refugees.
In an early Wednesday morning Instagram update, Beck wrote, I cannot specify for international relations and security reasons exactly where I am today, but I am in the Middle East at the home base of operations for the Nazarene Fund.
I will try to join radio podcast right at the top of 9am on The Blaze.
So I'm not sure he's actually in Afghanistan himself.
He may be at the Ingestion Center, which could be only a few hundred miles away, just over a border or something.
Maybe Uzbekistan.
He hasn't said where.
But regardless, for him to go and do this, I think is absolutely incredible.
And the people who are able to do it is absolutely amazing.
They say, late Tuesday night, Beck shared a video of himself in what appeared to be a plane.
And what you said just got a briefing a few minutes ago on what's been happening today and what's been going on overseas.
We are still moving people at this point.
It's like you're a Christian, you're a female judge.
I don't care.
Get on the plane from Afghanistan.
It is horrible, horrible to hear what we are now.
We are now cutting our time short 72 hours.
Why is the US now making a bad situation much, much worse by having them cut our deadline?
Why am I sitting here praising Glenn Beck for flying in at his own dime to rescue people?
I don't get it.
I really, really don't get it.
t becket adams
Why is he doing the job at the State Department and the Department of Defense?
tim pool
Why did they abandon their helicopters?
Why did the U.S.
abandon air equipment?
ian crossland
I know.
It seems like it was intentional, man.
tim pool
I can't.
Look, look.
I always try to give the benefit of the doubt.
I always say I want to make the least amount of assumptions.
But how could it possibly be that they're, for one, screwing up the... They didn't evacuate Americans or allies.
They abandoned an air force base in the dead of night and didn't tell the Afghan security forces.
How is that an accident?
t becket adams
I don't know.
Again, I was saying, I don't want to jump on that.
I don't want to do the resistance thing, jump on impeachment every chance I get.
tim pool
I know, I know, I know.
t becket adams
There have to be hearings on this.
I need to know.
We all need to know what happened.
And I just want to clarify real quick when I was saying Glenn Beck's doing the job of the State Department and the Department of Defense.
Actual soldiers, actual Marines, actual State Department officials and CIA have been doing everything they can.
I'm talking about leadership is what I'm dumping on right now.
I don't want to, I'm not speaking ill of the rank and file who are actually out there risking their lives clearly as we saw today.
tim pool
You know what has always bothered me?
I remember during the Bush era, when I was like a teenager, we were always complaining about war.
Didn't understand what the point of being in these countries was, but we always agreed on one thing.
Not everybody.
We don't blame the troops.
No, we respect them because they're the ones who stood up and said, you know, we're here to serve the country in good faith.
We were angry with the establishment machine, the neocons, the big military-industrial complex, sending our brothers and sisters, men and women in uniform, our children into harm's way, and for what?
And so right now, it is the worst of the worst example of this.
13 U.S.
servicemen and women are dead because, for one, the nation building, and two, when they were exiting the country, they just did not care.
Or I'll tell you this, you know what?
The people who voted for Joe Biden, you chose this.
You chose to have an emperor with no clothes.
I'm gonna shout it out to Sam Harris.
You guys probably know Sam Harris.
He is a very prominent podcaster.
And of course, he was always very anti-Trump.
During the election, he was always ragging on Trump, very much so.
He quote-tweeted himself.
In an old tweet, he said, feeling overwhelming gratitude for the adults in the room on January 20th.
Today, he quoted that and said, publicly eating these words syllable by syllable.
Good.
ian crossland
How could he not have seen that?
Sam Harris, man.
t becket adams
To that point, you say Biden voters voted for this.
The thing that anyone could have seen this coming, Biden has been in Congress since 1973.
He has a track record.
He's known.
This is like when Donald Trump became president and people, especially the people like the liberals who boosted him
over Marco Rubio during the primaries, are like, oh my God, how could he be like this?
It's Donald Trump.
He has been like this since he's been in the public eye.
None of this is new.
This is who he has always been.
This is his whole persona.
Biden is a known entity.
If you did not know that he is one of the worst people on foreign policy, who's been wrong about every major foreign policy issue since the 1970s.
That's on you.
It was on you to do your research, to listen, but to your point about being unelected, Trumping anti-elected.
That's the thing.
Actually, I can't remember, it was a guest on your own show who was talking about this, but one of the things that the press did, and a quick sidebar, I will say one thing that's really impressed me, as much as anything about Afghanistan has impressed me, the press coverage has actually been really good.
It's been thorough, it's been damning, it's been Completely just straightforward.
tim pool
They love war.
You know what I mean?
So the one time you're getting an honest approach is when Biden screws up the war they want.
t becket adams
I don't know if Clarissa Ward at CNN loves war.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's just the editors at CNN.
They choose what's going to get them money, what's going to get attention.
And so right now, this is ratings.
We heard with the Veritas leaks.
We know what CNN's all about.
But I agree.
I do.
t becket adams
To the point, I cannot remember his name.
He was a guest on your show.
He was talking about one of the things the media and the Democrats did is they terrified people every single day.
Everything Trump did was new.
It was unprecedented.
We've never seen anything like this before.
This is the worst thing.
Every single day, even normal stuff like dumping fish food in a koi pond in Japan.
tim pool
And it was edited.
It was a fake video.
t becket adams
It was a fake video.
I know.
This is one of those moments you write about it.
I'm like, what am I writing about?
unidentified
Because they made, oh my god, you know what happened in Japan?
t becket adams
Every single day, they terrified people into voting for anything that was Orange Man.
tim pool
I like to use the plumber analogy, but I think at this point we should use the mechanic analogy.
I'd like you to imagine that your car breaks down, and you have two mechanics before you, and one guy is this tall, loud-mouthed orange guy going, it's a disgusting horse car, it's nasty, I hate it, but I'll fix it, I'll make it run, your car will be great.
And you're like, ugh.
Jeez, and then you look over there's another guy and he's asleep and when you're like yo, are you gonna fix my car?
He goes turn it on a shop at a pressure and you're like I'm gonna go with that guy who just said something random some random gibberish sentence I don't even know what he said and I'm gonna trust it and then you get in your car You're driving on the street and then you're coming to a red light and you press the brake down nothing happens and you're like what's happening?
I'm so surprised that I chose the guy who couldn't even speak and now my car crashes But that's the thing.
t becket adams
It's not even who he was in 2020.
There's 40 years of history to look at.
I know so many people who voted for him over Trump because they said, I voted for character, competence, and decency.
Biden is neither of those, and he's shown that repeatedly.
I would say, too, to the issue of people being terrified every single day because everything was unprecedented.
The irony of that now is the United States gearing up to abandon U.S.
citizens and Taliban-run country.
That actually is as terrifying as all the BS, most of the BS, they said about Donald Trump for all years he was president.
So we come to this area now and it's like, where are we supposed to go?
So you say Biden, oh yeah, the guy who's clearly not who he was in 2012.
That's what I can say about him.
I covered him in 2012.
I covered him in 2020.
And I can tell you right now, Biden is not the man he was in 2012 when he filleted Paul Ryan during the vice presidential debate.
But even beyond that, one of the greatest tricks in American politics is that Joe Biden rebranded as his kindly old ice cream eating uncle.
He's been one of the meanest knife fighters in the Senate.
He was famous for it.
And for some reason, people who've been covering Congress and the United States and U.S.
politics for much longer than I ever have, just went along with it.
unidentified
Old Grandpa Joe loves his grandpa in his ponds.
t becket adams
And I was like, what?
We all know who he is.
We've seen this over and over again.
He is a ruthless, Cunning.
Self-serving.
Money-grubbing.
ian crossland
Plagiarist.
t becket adams
He's a plagiarist?
Oh yeah.
ian crossland
Over and over again.
t becket adams
He made up a story about his own wife and daughter dying.
Who does that?
unidentified
Sociopath.
t becket adams
He claimed the man was a at fault and drunk.
None of that was true.
He's a sociopath.
He's a bad person.
And I know people in 2020, after 40 years, 40 years of facts and details in history, going, I voted for character.
Where?
unidentified
What character?
tim pool
Trump was a character.
t becket adams
Man has too much character.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right.
And you know, all the things they would say about Trump, it's like, the big problem is, listen man, to all the Trump haters, I'm like, I hear you on a lot of it, but bro, when you come to me, like, I would sit down with someone and like, why do you dislike Trump?
Seven out of the 10 things they said were fake news.
Did you see what happened with Shinzo Abe when he's like just dumping he's making us look bad I'm like oh you mean when he did what Shinzo did first?
Like Shinzo dumped the food in so Trump said okay and then followed suit?
You're blaming him for that?
Well he's meeting with with with dictators and I'm like negotiating peace deals with dictators is a bad thing now?
Obama did it.
unidentified
The very fine people hoax.
t becket adams
Joe Biden used to launch his campaign.
I didn't care for.
I'm not saying that's necessarily good, but the idea is that this is unprecedented.
We've never seen this before in their history.
ian crossland
Like, we always negotiate first.
tim pool
I mean, you can always find people who betray your allies.
The worst case scenario, you know, the very fine people hoax Joe Biden used to launch
his campaign.
Yeah.
t becket adams
A lie.
I did for 2017.
I did a database of all the bogus and sloppy and just flat out false reporting of the Trump
administration.
And it ended up being about a 13 page document if you print it out.
And I stopped after 2017 because it was too much work.
There's so much nonsense to the point and even now people are continuing some of it.
Drawing a blank on his name, he's a presidential historian who works for NBC, is still railing against Melania Trump's renovation of the Rose Garden.
Talking about how she made into some weird sort of fascist icon and she's just returning to the 1962 Kennedy blueprint.
unidentified
And he's like, she's destroyed with Jacqueline Kennedy.
tim pool
Remember when CNN reported that Trump's salt and pepper shaker was larger than everyone else's?
t becket adams
How are these stories?
tim pool
And it wasn't even necessarily Trump's pepper shaker.
It was like in front of him to the right was like two larger square shakers and then to
his left was like smaller ones and they're like, look, it's bigger.
It's like, I'm sure everyone's you.
Trump doesn't have like his own.
He pulls out of his coat.
He's like, it's mine.
t becket adams
I remember once looking up and CNN had a chyron and it said Trump gets two scoops of ice cream.
And I was like, go turn cartoons on and literally anything else.
What am I watching?
To be fair, though, that woman does these... Her whole gag is that she does goofy, funny reporting stories.
unidentified
But the problem is that all of CNN started to look like all of her... No, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
All of CNN picked up the story.
And then I ended up seeing, I don't know which show it was, but they were like, two scoops of ice cream.
And then they ran the story.
I'm willing to bet Jeff Zucker was like, hey, that actually plays well.
Can you re-roll it, like in the next show?
You know what, Jeff Zucker, is he out at CNN?
He's still there, right?
t becket adams
He's still there.
tim pool
Do you know, so for those that aren't familiar, he's the president, I believe, right?
President of CNN?
t becket adams
Yes.
Oh, I'm getting hazy.
tim pool
It's chief something or other of a... What was his job before CNN?
t becket adams
NBC.
tim pool
And what did he produce at NBC?
t becket adams
The Apprentice.
Which is a Donald Trump reality TV show.
I've written about this.
Jeff Zucker's stewardship of CNN has turned CNN.
CNN has WWE-ified the news.
It's all about heels and faces.
You got the good guys and the bad guys and tonight Don Lemon's gonna take on parents who love their children and don't want them to be masked.
Like last night he was like, just because you have kids doesn't mean you should have them.
Yeah, I said it.
Like, this isn't new!
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Just because you have kids doesn't mean you should have.
t becket adams
Yeah, I'm not making this up, by the way.
tim pool
He was railing against- Like, the state should take your kids from you?
t becket adams
He was railing against parents who are anti-having their kids masked for eight hours a day in school, and his big- the big line that people at Mediaite wrote about and stuff was, just because you have kids doesn't mean you should.
Period.
Yeah, I said it.
unidentified
Wow.
t becket adams
This isn't even analysis.
I can't even say the word.
What is this?
tim pool
WWE-ifying.
That's not fair, though, to WWE.
Because WWE is over-the-top fun.
t becket adams
Also, as I've written before, WWE also has the courage to admit what it is and doesn't pretend to be anything else.
tim pool
But when I watched this clip recently, I don't know when it's from, I don't watch it, but it was John Cena's birthday or something.
And he, do you know this clip?
He like walks out and everyone's like pointing and he's like, he looks over and there's a present and he opens it and it's a folding chair.
Like it's funny.
It's funny.
ian crossland
It's also fake.
unidentified
Right.
t becket adams
But that's the thing.
ian crossland
WWE is fake.
Hold on.
tim pool
I don't, I don't like the word fake when talking about wrestling because it's entertainment.
ian crossland
It's fiction.
tim pool
I'll put it that way.
ian crossland
It's fiction.
CNN is not supposed to be fiction.
t becket adams
Right, but that's the thing.
They have the same approach, which is heels and faces.
And since Donald Trump left office, their ratings have tanked.
It's been across the board.
People don't know what to talk about.
That's why you find the next thing.
They've been focusing on Tucker Carlson and Fox News.
Fox News has to be the new Trump because Trump's out of office.
tim pool
Well, they've tried.
I love it.
Brian Stelter is like...
He keeps trying to pin it on someone else.
Is Tucker Carlson the new Trump?
And then who else did he accuse?
They went after Marjorie Taylor Greene.
It didn't stick.
They went for Tucker Carlson.
It doesn't stick.
t becket adams
Yeah, they find a new person it seems like every week.
tim pool
They try to accuse someone else of being the new Trump because they are desperate to find a Trump.
t becket adams
Right.
There's only one Stone Cold Steve Austin, though.
I'm sorry.
You just can't replace him.
And you see this in the news.
You see this in MSNBC.
Honestly, If you told me in 2016 that MSNBC would be the slightly more reputable network than CNN during the Trump era, I would have said you're crazy.
But I have to say it, MSNBC actually was more reputable for all those years.
But all this kind of seems almost beside the point.
But this goes to, we have the president who we have now because people were told they need to be terrified of the other guy because the stuff he did was dangerous and going to get everyone killed.
And the irony now is we're looking at a situation where a lot of people God forbid, you know, just keep praying that doesn't happen in Afghanistan.
And this is what we're at.
And I find myself, look, I don't blame Biden voters.
There is a part of me, though, that is largely angry because Biden is such a known entity.
If you did not know this is who he is, that's on you.
You had 40 years of material to look over.
tim pool
There's a few ways I approach this.
So for one, you know, I talked about the other day that when it comes to fascist policies, I blame those who uphold them.
So with like the New York City mandates, who's making the mandate and who's enforcing it?
It's the mom-and-pop shops that are enforcing it.
Because the cops can't go to every single restaurant.
No, it's only because the citizens of New York are willing to do it.
Who's the one who's confiscating people's weapons and their right to keep and bear arms?
It's the police who are doing it.
However, With the American voter, I don't necessarily blame every person who voted for Biden.
Now, it's true that if you voted for Biden, you voted for this.
But the media, who is manipulating and lying and ripping off the American people, deserve a massive amount of the blame for this.
At the end of the day, I think it's the responsibility of the individual to be informed.
And if you're just watching CNN and believing it without doing any fact-checking, yeah, you bear responsibility.
But how do you deal with CNN, MSNBC, and their outright lies over and over again?
Look, man, never been a big fan of Fox News, not a big fan of a lot of their hosts, but their news, like Brett Baier, is great.
I like Chris Wallace.
Yeah, what was that? New Day or no, that's CNN. That's CNN.
That's America's newsroom. Yeah, they do a great job. I like Chris Wallace
t becket adams
I know a lot of people don't care for Chris Wallace on the right after the last election
I like Chris Wallace. I think he's straight. He's straight with the news
tim pool
And cnn is anything but it's hard to find, you know, I I I have this thing on my Instagram from a couple years ago.
I think I called it the CNN challenge.
And what you do is you turn on Fox News and then see what they're reporting and then switch to CNN and see if they're reporting on substantive world news.
And so the challenge is, when you put on CNN, or you put on Fox News, what would I get?
So I'm like, oh, there's protests in Iran.
A week later, it's a hurricane, a large storm is coming to the U.S.
You know, be prepared, get supplies.
And I'm like, okay, let's see what's on CNN.
And what was it?
A panel talking about Trump.
Every.
Single.
Time.
And Project Veritas had that expose where you had a guy who said, we don't report anymore.
CNN used to go out and go on the ground.
Now it's like we all just sit around because they're doing Trump panels all day.
t becket adams
I should say I should clarify that a lot of my criticism is for CNN's primetime U.S.
news reporting.
There are a lot of people on the digital side who do a lot of great reporting.
Especially international porn and CNN International itself is almost like its own entity. Yeah, completely devoid of
the Zuckers over oversight But you turn on like anything between noon to 10 p.m
And it's just it's again. It's like watching professional wrestling, but with suits and ties
tim pool
You might as well just be watching like a video of chickens clucking. It's like you're gonna be an insult to chickens
t becket adams
At least they're doing good, honest work.
tim pool
That's true.
That's true.
They're feeding families.
That's true.
But I just mean to say that you're not going to get any information.
No.
In fact, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
That's wrong.
Because if you watch chickens clucking, you'll understand chicken clucks after a certain amount of time.
You'll be like, wow, the rooster did that call.
That must mean danger.
You turn on CNN, you get dumber.
You get less informed.
You get misinformed.
And then they blame everyone else for their problems.
Now you end up with people who live in this matrix dimension.
t becket adams
The problem, look, I don't mind a press that's opinionated.
I've long time said the idea of an impartial press is kind of a BS idea.
Really sort of popularized in like the early 19th century.
The idea that, you know, use minimal words and all that was a lot of it's about saving ink and paper.
I don't mind if you have an opinion or a slant.
Just be honest with me.
And if you have a slant or an opinion, just be fair in your coverage.
Look, if we had a press being as tough and as uncompromising on Joe Biden, things might have gone differently.
I'm not saying he would have lost.
tim pool
No, we had collusion between Big Tech and the media to shut down news stories that made Hunter Biden and Joe Biden look bad.
t becket adams
And not just that, but you also had the president would disappear for days on end in his basement
and people would be like, oh well, he's probably having some ice cream.
Now what did Donald Trump say today?
And you're like, well, hold on.
As it turns out, apparently having a president whose entire campaign strategy was to hide
in his basement wasn't great because then they were seeing it now in real time.
tim pool
That's why I say Trump was anti-elected.
People when they, when people hit that Biden button or box, they weren't saying Biden,
they were saying no Trump.
t becket adams
That's all they were saying.
Spite vote is such a powerful thing.
Look, President, former President Barack Obama was a very exciting, very likable, very charismatic candidate in his own right.
But also, a spite vote in 2008 was a direct answer to George W., who was so unpopular at the time.
People weren't necessarily voting against John McCain.
They were voting against George W. Bush, who they were very unhappy with.
And it helped that the Democratic candidate was extremely select and extremely easy to want to vote for.
Oh, I mean, I wasn't covering politics at the time, but even I just casually watching the news knew Obama was going to win.
You watch that guy and you're like, yeah, no, he's going to be the next president.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And then 2012, Mitt Romney.
t becket adams
Mitt Romney is such a difficult person because he's such, I think, he's a decent man, a good man, and a seasoned and successful executive, but he always carried himself like he was embarrassed to be a Republican.
Like he was always kind of apologizing.
tim pool
He still is!
t becket adams
Why?
Just own it.
I mean, this is funny, because Donald Trump did, to the nth degree, what I was screaming during 2012, which was like, own it.
You're rich.
You're successful.
Own it.
And then Donald Trump was like, OK, OK.
Don't own it so hard.
tim pool
Because Mitt Romney cares more about the opinion of The New York Times than he does about the American people.
t becket adams
There's so many Republicans like them.
They'll never like you.
Why do you do this?
They will never appreciate you.
You're always going to be that weird kid on the playground that amuses them.
But you're never going to be in the click.
They will be like, hey, bite this worm in half.
tim pool
Eat this pine cone!
t becket adams
It's so gross!
No, get out of here.
Get out of here, weirdo.
You see this with cable news and even newspapers.
The hallowed former GOP strategist who hasn't been a Republican or done anything conservative for the last 30 years, but they're trotted out to say something bad about Republicans.
Because, you know, blue on red, that's expected.
But red on red violence?
Ooh, dramatic.
This is great.
Bring out Nicole Wallace or Steve Schmidt.
Steve Schmidt!
tim pool
Oh, Adam Kinzinger, a Republican, said... Come on, does anybody really... What they're doing with Bill Kristol and these neocons who are now all of a sudden cheerleaders of the Democratic Party... Jennifer Rubin is one of the best, right?
She starts cheerle- she's the kind of conservative, quote unquote, who comes out and says like,
I'm a principled conservative and Trump is bad and the Democrats cheer for it.
And then when Trump, when it comes to like Stacey Abrams, she's cheering for Stacey Abrams.
Then you get the Lincoln Project.
They're like, we got to restore the party of Lincoln.
So we're anti-Trump.
Then Trump, you know, gets voted out and they go, well, Trumpism is still the Republican
party so we're with the Democrats, I guess.
t becket adams
Yeah, now you have them going on being like, well, we're gonna have to save Gavin Newsom in California.
I'm like, what part of this is conservative?
Steve Schmidt is marched out to this day on MSNBC regularly in the Chiron, it says, former GOP strategist, and he comes out and he's like, the Republican Party is now the party of fascism, blah, blah, blah.
Former GOP strategist, he hasn't done anything successful since Arnold Schwarzenegger was re-elected in 2006.
He's dining out on that credit for almost as long as we've been in Afghanistan.
And yet they just pump him out because this is, this is what they want.
These are the Republicans that who are Republicans.
I would not put Mitt Romney in the same category with Steve Schmidt.
unidentified
But there's that weird strain of, like, embarrassed.
t becket adams
Like, oh, I know, my rank and file are loud and they wear red hats.
unidentified
I'm so sorry.
tim pool
People say RINO, Republican In Name Only.
t becket adams
Oh, I remember that one.
tim pool
Do they still say that?
Yeah, absolutely, all the time.
But you know who the real RINOs are?
It's like Thomas Massey and Rand Paul.
Because they're the odd people out.
The entirety of the Republican Party's thrown doing nothing.
And then you get a small handful of people who actually stand up.
And if I'm gonna look at the majority of the Republican Party as, you know, on their best day, a speed bump for Democrats, and then I look at, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Rand Paul, Thomas Massey, who actually stand up for stuff, and Hawley, and a few others.
I'm like, they're not the same as the Republicans.
t becket adams
Arizona Democratic Senator Kristen Sinema is more reliable for what I want, and she's the Democrat.
Oh, and Joe Manchin!
I'm like, they're actually more aligned with me than a lot of these other supposed celebrity Republicans who get trotted out on cable news to go, Trump is bad.
tim pool
Tucker called Lindsey Graham a leftist.
unidentified
Oh, Lindsey Graham.
t becket adams
I mean, I don't think I have as harsh a criticism.
When you were saying Rand Paul was a rhino, I was like, I think he would not want to be called Republican.
I think he still prefers Libertarian, but... He's in the Republican Party, so it's... Right.
I mean, he's not... He's not his father.
I'll just leave it at that.
tim pool
The Republican Party is the group of weirdos in high school who wish they were in with the popular kids.
And the Democrats are... Look, Obama is a celebrity, you know?
He's a rock star.
They've got the media.
They love it.
The Republicans are suit-wearing, stodgy, and unhip, and they're not with it.
So you get all these Republicans who are desperate to make the New York Times happy because they want to be cool, but they'll never be cool.
t becket adams
Nobody likes being hated, but it just kind of blows my mind that a lot of these Republicans forget you've got like 50% of the country, if not more, behind you.
You don't have to win over that other half that despises you.
unidentified
Not for long.
t becket adams
Well, we'll see about that.
I always come back to this, the idea that it's always going to slip away and we just can't win and all that stuff.
Maybe it's too simplistic, but if you can't sell and package liberty to voters, then maybe you're just a bad salesman.
Maybe the problem is you.
We need better we.
I'm a conservative.
I'm not a Republican.
I haven't been a registered Republican for a long time.
Conservatives need better spokespeople.
Spokesmen and women, if we want to be exact about it.
And the idea that, no, it's just not going to work, we can't win, we can't sell liberty.
Why can't we sell liberty?
They can certainly sell big government.
How can we not package something that's far more attractive?
tim pool
Let me pull up these polls and we'll break this down.
So we got this from Civics.
Democratic Party favorable rating.
53% unfavorable, 41% favorable for the Democratic Party.
Republican Party.
What do you think it's going to be?
t becket adams
Probably worse.
tim pool
The Republican Party is 62% unfavorable and 26% favorable.
And you know why that is?
Let's go back to the Democrats real quick.
Okay.
How do Democratic voters feel about the Democratic Party?
86% favorable, 7% unfavorable.
How do Republicans feel about the Democratic Party?
95% unfavorable.
How about independent voters?
Independent voters say 63% unfavorable, 26% favorable.
Okay, so the Democrats overwhelmingly like the Democratic Party.
Republicans overwhelmingly dislike it.
And independent voters lean towards not liking it.
Let's take a look at Republican voters and how they feel about the Republican Party.
65% favorable.
A 20% drop from Democrats in their own party.
Republican voters don't like their own party.
ian crossland
It's a 30% drop, right?
95% to 65%?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Democrats were 85% favorable.
t becket adams
Look, I'll give Democrats this.
They stick together.
They do.
They have great, what's the word I'm looking for, discipline when it comes to sticking together.
That's part of the reason why people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stick out, because they don't march the party line, which is different.
But the fact that Republicans don't like their own party, I think that might be contributed to the fact that the Republican Party has been feckless for years, that it seems embarrassed of itself.
But I also suspect a large part of it might have to do with the fact that conservative voters tend to be highly individualistic and they're not beholden to a tribe or that sort of loyalty might see from the team that believes in sort of like the collective, like the Borg floating through space.
Not to say Democrats are the Borg.
tim pool
They are.
t becket adams
I love Democrats.
Democrats are.
God bless them.
What's the old Reagan quote?
It's not that they're wrong.
It's just they know so much that isn't true.
But, you know, so I'm not surprised.
I think even in during good, well, yeah, even during good years, I think you would still find high unfavorability with Republicans, because I think part of being a conservative is not being a part of a tribe or beholden to it.
So if you got some qualms with it, you're going to say it.
And now I don't want to simplify it and be like, ah, Republican Party's fine.
Republicans are just like, no, Republican Party's clearly got, I think Kevin McCarthy's way in and over his head.
Way, the worst man for the moment right now.
tim pool
I think 97% of the Republican Party is just, it's like, it's dead air.
It's radio silence.
They don't do anything.
Look, a really great example.
Ilhan Omar does what I've referred to as crop-dusting anti-Semitism.
What do the Democrats do?
They circle the wagons.
And they say, we're not going to condemn her.
t becket adams
We'll condemn hate.
tim pool
What do they do to Marjorie Taylor Greene?
t becket adams
They stripped her of her committee assignment.
tim pool
Because she said stuff before she got elected!
The Republicans are sitting there as the losers and the bully Democrats are like, you want to be with the cool kids?
Well, then you got to go pick on that weirdo.
And they go, whatever you say, Democrats.
And then they start, look, are we cool yet?
We're insulting our own friends.
t becket adams
Yeah, no, like, you even get into the area of... I'm not even trying to litigate what she said, whether it was right or wrong, but the fact that Republicans didn't say, look, I don't agree with it, but don't you dare, because we'll come for your anti-Semites.
And that's the thing, too, with what Marjorie Greene-Taylor said, you can make a very clear argument that it was offensive, but the stuff that comes out of Ilhan Omar's mouth and Rashida Tlaib is straight up anti-Semitic.
I mean, straight up.
The idea that American Jews are pro-Israel because of the money.
I'm sorry.
What did you just say?
tim pool
The dual loyalties.
t becket adams
The dual loyalties.
You can't trust those Jews, you know?
And then what the Democrats do, they go, okay, we'll pass a resolution saying all lives matter.
tim pool
That's what they did!
t becket adams
I'm not making that up!
That's what they did.
And then the Democrats were like, that did the trick.
Anyway, I'm back to work.
No.
tim pool
And that's why Trump won.
Because people finally saw a fighter who was going to be like, I'll fight for you.
t becket adams
Oh, look, I'll out myself on this.
I did not vote for him in either election.
I did not like Trump.
He's not my, he's not my ideal president.
I want John, I want John Adams for president is what I want.
tim pool
Uh, yeah, but he's been, he's, he's dead, isn't he?
ian crossland
He died.
t becket adams
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh God.
ian crossland
No, are you serious?
t becket adams
I don't think Trump, I hate, I hate to use the word.
tim pool
I hate to use the word.
t becket adams
I hate to use the word because it's so overused by the press, and I was concerned trolling Republicans, but Trump did not have the temperament for the most important job in the world, not the country.
I did not like his opponents, so I certainly didn't vote for them either.
unidentified
Did you vote for Joe Jorgensen?
t becket adams
I voted for who I always vote for when I do a write-in, it's Mickey Mouse.
ian crossland
I almost wrote myself.
t becket adams
Um, but my point that I'm trying to get at after, you know, telling everyone my dirty secret is that actually my dirty secret, oh god, my dirty secret in 2016 is I vote for Evan McMullin.
ian crossland
Who's that?
t becket adams
I'm so sorry everyone.
He had one job which was, don't embarrass me, and he couldn't even manage that.
Guy couldn't even manage a cup of coffee, the most embarrassing, it was just a protest vote.
I knew he wasn't gonna win.
I didn't particularly care for the guy.
I was trying to register my protest that neither one of these candidates Deserves my vote because I don't think either one of them deserves the office.
Now what I can say is the Trump presidency was way better than I thought it was going to be.
I think we, we being conservatives, benefited from the fact that he did surround himself with a lot of good people.
He was actually great for pro-life issues.
He was great on foreign policy.
The fact that you get Bahrain, the UAE, and Israel sitting together, signing a treaty.
That's amazing!
Moving the embassy.
This is great.
Presidents have just been doing lip service for years.
He actually did it.
I'm deeply impressed.
Getting prisoners back from North Korea.
unidentified
I'm like, all right, credit where it's due.
t becket adams
The thing though, is that even having him, you know, I think I would prefer him right now to the thing that's already in office.
I can't lie.
I didn't vote for the guy, but I think I would prefer that because what's happening now, I don't think would have happened under Trump's watch.
ian crossland
I don't think so.
It wouldn't have happened under Kamala Harris either.
Biden's gone, man.
He's got like two days.
He can see like two days ahead.
He slurs his words.
He misspeaks words in his national addresses.
tim pool
He trails off.
ian crossland
He's not a military guy ever.
He never was.
And now he's like a deranged or like a demented.
It seems like he's like, you know, edging towards dementia or if it's not.
And he's in he's in military command.
t becket adams
Is that is that the answer to our question?
The why?
Which is that an incompetent man is in charge and he's completely surrounded by yes men.
Not a single person.
ian crossland
Mark Milley wouldn't wouldn't take the risk because he doesn't want his career to get trashed a month before he retires.
t becket adams
It's as simple as that.
That's why what's happening is happening.
tim pool
One of the symptoms of dementia is outbursts of rage, because people who are losing their mind get frustrated because they're desperately trying to hold on.
And so, like, imagine you're having a conversation, and in your mind you're thinking, like, I would like to talk about, you know, my dog Fido, and then you're talking and all of a sudden your mind goes blank, and you get angry now.
So you look at some of these things where Biden has snapped on reporters, Remember when he went to that guy and he was, he started yelling at him over and over again?
t becket adams
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's done things like that a lot.
It's because he gets asked a question and he, and he's like, it's like you mentioned, you know, back in 2012, how he, you know, he tore up, uh, Paul Ryan.
And now imagine being that guy who's, who's winning, winning these elections for decades.
And now you're sitting, you're unable to speak at the podium.
You're going to get, you're going to get frustrated and angry.
t becket adams
I only think I would say maybe slight pushback on that as it goes back to my earlier statement about we have a track record.
Biden has been snapping on reporters for decades.
That's actually how he usually interacts with an uncomfortable or unfriendly question.
He's always been an expletive that I won't say on the air.
He has always been mean.
That's not new.
tim pool
A big jerk.
t becket adams
This goes back.
He's a big meanie.
This goes back to what I was saying earlier, the idea that he was able to rebrand himself as this kindly old man and everyone went along with him.
Like, no, he he was famously mean.
Famously short with people, famously curt, rude.
tim pool
Didn't Mitt Romney like strap a dog to his car or something like that?
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Yeah.
t becket adams
They went for, do we want to litigate this?
They went for a long car ride.
The dog had diarrhea.
So they put it in the dog carrier on top of the car.
And her name is Gail Collins at the New York times.
I want to say she wrote about 30 articles, about 30 different columns talking about that dog on the roof.
I mean, I mean, look, I've never owned a dog.
Where do you put a dog that has diarrhea for a car ride?
tim pool
In the carrier?
t becket adams
Do you put it on the car or in the back?
tim pool
Put it in the car.
It's a dog.
What do you do with a baby?
t becket adams
Baby doesn't have fur.
tim pool
It was in a carrier.
t becket adams
It was in the carrier, but apparently putting the carrier on top of the car is very bad.
I guess?
I guess.
Wouldn't that put a dog on the wall?
tim pool
I don't know, I just thought of that.
I thought it was a funny story.
t becket adams
Oh no, we can litigate all of this stuff.
tim pool
So right now we've got this story from the Hill.
Hawley, Blackburn call for Biden to resign.
There's been other insinuations that he should be impeached if he doesn't resign.
But then what do we do?
Do we do President Kamala Harris?
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, please.
Anything is better than this guy right now.
It's military.
He left thousands of people behind.
tim pool
That's right.
And they said they didn't want a Blackhawk down moment.
ian crossland
They didn't want to send in... This is like the Iranian hostage thing, which was the biggest, it was 52 people, 52, and already 13 people have been killed.
tim pool
Times a hundred.
ian crossland
Like people didn't die.
No one died in that scandal, that hostage scandal that I know of.
They were rescued.
These people died already.
I saw Jimmy Dore, I'm evoking Jimmy, I love you.
tim pool
These are US troops who were there, knowing the risks, Or they were affiliated with the troops.
ian crossland
They weren't all troops, right?
They were military.
t becket adams
No, there were 13 dead U.S.
servicemembers.
ian crossland
Servicemen.
t becket adams
On top, no, there were Marines and a Navy medic, a corpsman.
And then there are also civilian casualties, although I don't think we have the numbers on the civilian casualties yet.
So it's a bunch of Afghani.
Afghani, by the way, is the currency.
I know people keep saying that when they try to say the plural, it's Afghan.
unidentified
Plenty of civilian Afghans, I believe, died in the event.
tim pool
Imagine serving on a ship with a captain who's, you know, let's just call him sporadic.
And you're like, I'm here to do my duty.
And then the people who are on shore are like, Hey, we're going to put this crazy old man up in there.
I can't, I can't imagine what it must feel like for a lot of these guys who are like, I'm going to do my best, but they know deep down they're in trouble.
ian crossland
Because if Biden's can control your ship, he fires at the enemy ship and he misses.
And he does thinks about how to do it again.
He's got people and then your ship gets hit with the, with the.
They didn't think about any of this when, look, Joe Biden campaigned to be president.
He said, I want that job.
He knew Trump negotiated this deal to withdraw.
understand can happen in reality if you're lazy with military.
tim pool
They didn't think about any of this when look, Joe Biden campaigned to be president.
He said, I want that job.
He knew Trump negotiated this deal to withdraw.
Biden said, I want to be in charge of the world's most powerful military.
And a bunch of people said, I would like that man to have control of the world's most powerful
military and to oversee our withdrawal from Afghanistan in the Middle East.
And this is what they voted for.
t becket adams
He's been running for president since the late 1980s.
ian crossland
Yeah.
t becket adams
He's been plagiarizing.
By the way, I mean, him being president the way he is, is like, you ever see that old Twilight Zone episode where the guy's finally alone to read all the books he wants, but he breaks his glasses?
You spend your entire life Most of your entire life.
You spent a lot of your life trying to be president, and you finally get it, and it turns out you were too incompetent to even execute the basic duties of your office.
tim pool
It was time now!
unidentified
It was my time!
It's not fair!
t becket adams
This is not fair!
Come on, man!
tim pool
I'm president!
t becket adams
Here's the deal.
So, to your point, if it's just sheer incompetence, maybe Kamala could I was thinking that, man, but it's gotta be.
He's not gonna get impeached.
He's not gonna resign unless... He's not fit for command, though.
ian crossland
You've gotta relieve him of command.
t becket adams
I think you'll have to drag him from the Oval Office with his teeth marks still on him.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, he doesn't want to leave.
tim pool
25th Amendment.
Kamala Harris, what if she comes out, because 25th Amendment requires the Vice President to come out and say the President is not competent, and then Pelosi set up that panel.
They were expecting this.
t becket adams
I don't know.
Look, you were saying earlier that, you know, behind the curtain Kamala's like, it's my time.
I don't know.
Have you seen her recently in some of her public appearances?
She's got a, I don't want to be here right now.
I mean, not just shaken, but like she sees what's happening and you think she wants to be in charge of this?
The cleanup after this?
Would you want it?
I wouldn't want it.
ian crossland
I would do it, but I mean, I would do it.
I would take it if it was there and I had to have it.
t becket adams
That's what I'm saying.
Is she going to, you know, work behind the scenes to take this?
And I want to clean this up.
tim pool
Here's the difference.
No.
Ian, you and Kamala both don't want it.
You don't want it because you don't want to be in charge.
You don't want to have the power, but you're willing to accept responsibility to do the
right thing to fix the mess.
Kamala doesn't want it because she doesn't want to deal with the mess.
She just wants the power.
You see how that works?
ian crossland
She wants the title.
tim pool
Kamala Harris doesn't want to deal with the crisis.
She just wants the power.
ian crossland
Well, then she's not fit for command either.
tim pool
Exactly.
t becket adams
But we keep saying not fit for command.
It extends beyond Biden.
Maybe Biden is an F-up who doesn't understand foreign policy as he's shown for the last several decades.
But the generals, this is literally their job, is knowing this stuff.
Who signed off on all this?
Who okayed it?
Who didn't push back?
ian crossland
Millie didn't push back.
t becket adams
Millie can't be the only one.
Who else?
lydia smith
So many.
t becket adams
He's the head of the Joint Chiefs.
tim pool
They were too busy dealing with White Rage, you know?
t becket adams
You want to hear about White Rage?
I got some White Rage right now over this.
ian crossland
Yeah.
t becket adams
Write General Millie about this.
I don't know where it goes from here.
ian crossland
I don't know.
t becket adams
It doesn't end well.
ian crossland
Who's responsible for this?
Who makes the call of where the money goes?
tim pool
Ron Paul.
ian crossland
He's such a funny character.
t becket adams
He's one of those guys that, before, when I first started covering politics, I was like, this seems like a goofy little man.
And then, repeatedly, I was like, oh, he was right about that.
And be like, well, I didn't doubt him.
I'm like, oh, I did.
I mean, the one big one, I'm sorry, I know this is a total tangent, was out at the Fed.
And I was like, this is silly.
And then the Fed's like, you absolutely will not out at us.
unidentified
Okay.
t becket adams
Well, why not?
You've seen Casino.
Remember when Sharon Stone asks her husband, Robert De Niro for money because he wants to go see her a pimp boyfriend.
And she doesn't want to tell her husband that, but she asked for like $15,000.
And he's like, what for?
And then she makes a big stink.
She's like, I shouldn't have to tell you what he's like.
And then the line, and I'm always reminded with this stuff.
He's like, well, I wasn't, I wasn't interested, but now I am.
That's how I feel with a lot of the stuff that Ron Paul has talked about.
I'm like, I didn't really have a strong opinion on this, but the fact that you guys are so reluctant to do this, now I'm very curious.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, you know?
I'd take a President Ian right now.
ian crossland
I'd take a President Tim.
lydia smith
Oh, I wouldn't want to be President Tim.
ian crossland
I don't want to be President, but I need military strategy at the top of the game right now.
t becket adams
I just want to be Vice President, just travel the world, shake hands, try new food, be great.
tim pool
We'd be better off with like, you know, Rick Smith from Dubuque, Iowa, who's like a local plumber.
t becket adams
It's the old Buckley saying, he's like, you'd be better off being ruled by three random names from the phone book than most of these eggheads.
And that's real.
People can know, you think you can do this better?
I'm like, yes, me and three completely random people could probably do what's happening in Afghanistan better.
I know enough that you'd get the civilians out first.
Like, this isn't hard.
tim pool
Not only that, but some of the low-ranking guys in Afghanistan could have done a way better job.
And I imagine that's got to be really frustrating to be deployed on the ground knowing and sitting there being like, why are they doing this?
t becket adams
They're understaffed and they're under-resourced over there.
They are working with what they have, which is not great.
And the other thing too, I don't think a lot of people have been talking about this sort of psychological angle to this.
The guys who are there now know that they're working on the final chapter to a big foreign policy failure.
They know everything they're doing has been a buildup to failure, and they've been tasked now with trying to get the last Americans out while surrounded by the Taliban.
Can you imagine what that job is even like?
And then losing at least 13 of your colleagues all in the same day.
I mean, this is... None of this had to happen to me.
This was all done by a president and a White House that doesn't know what it's doing, or, as some people have suggested, is actually just malicious.
tim pool
I've had those jobs, man, where you're like, my boss is dumb, and they don't know how this stuff works.
There's a lot of jobs you'll get where the manager is hired externally, and so they've never actually worked, say, the soda machine or the cash register.
And they're sitting there trying to tell you how it works, and you're like, dude, you have no idea what you're talking about, right?
It's frustrating.
I could not imagine what it must be like to be deployed in Afghanistan, and knowing what's going on in the country, knowing how the people react, knowing what the Taliban is, and then getting these orders where you're like, You want me to do what?
Because this is your life on the line.
This ain't a cheeseburger or a cash register.
t becket adams
I can't imagine what the U.S.
Marines feel like seeing Afghans, possible Afghan allies, UK nationals, people with their papers, and they can't take them or go out and defend them because they've been ordered to stay put.
The 82nd Airborne has been ordered not to go outside of Kabul to save Americans and other people, while the British paratroopers are going in and the French Special Forces have been going into these sort of daring night raids all over and the Americans just have to sit there.
I can't imagine how demoralizing, how much of a shock that must be.
As an American, like look, as civilians, we know the idea that Americans being left behind is such a... I never thought that this could happen.
I can't imagine what this is like for a guy who's dedicated his life to being in the armed services.
Would it be like, you can't go out and get those Americans?
I can't do that?
And we might leave some behind?
That's gotta... They talk a lot during the Trump year.
Sorry not to interrupt.
They talked a lot during the Trump years about unprecedented stuff.
The idea that we are uncoursed to abandon Americans in a foreign country to a terrorist death cult.
Nothing like that has happened in this country before.
tim pool
You know what really tears at me?
I mean obviously the US troops and the loss of life is the biggest thing, but I'm just thinking like, if they didn't abandon the Afghan security forces the way they did, Afghanistan could have been successful.
It could have been.
They could, in fact, you know, we've talked with other vets on the show where they said something like, you draw down, you know, the overall majority, 90 plus percent of American forces and leave a few commanders or, you know, strategy, logistics, with some air support, some drones, and it's done.
We get out, that minimal support can help keep things secure.
And then I look at what happened with evacuating the Air Force bases in the middle of the night, not informing the Afghan security forces.
And I wonder if Biden did this properly, would there be a secure Afghanistan right now for their people?
t becket adams
I mean, maybe a big problem that the US military is also reported is that the Afghan government is extremely corrupt and susceptible to bribes and looking at their way.
Another problem that I know a lot of military have reported is that the Afghans that they've tried to train the training has been very difficult because there's a lot of lack of discipline.
tim pool
I've seen the videos, man.
Can't do jumping jacks.
t becket adams
Stuff like that.
tim pool
What's it called?
Sidesaddle.
t becket adams
People, jumping jacks, people straight up abandoning.
Just walking away.
Smoking hash.
Because they don't want to do it anymore.
So I don't know if Afghanistan would still be standing with just a few things differing.
I mean, it's not like there was a lack of spending or a lack of arms or a lack of training.
So maybe it would stay in, maybe it would fall.
But the White House keeps saying, we plan for all contingencies.
Apparently, Afghanistan falling to the Taliban was not one of those contingencies.
And how you overlooked that, despite everything you were being told by your guys on the ground about how difficult it is to train them and how corrupt the government is.
Well-known corrupt.
Everyone knew that.
We all know that.
We don't work in government.
We don't work in the United States military.
We know it's corrupt.
tim pool
It's interesting, I always wondered, like, why is bribery so less common here, you know?
t becket adams
I don't think it is.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It is.
Bribery is common, but it's much less common.
Like, I hear these stories.
Oh, look, when you get pulled over, would you say to the officer how much to make the ticket go away?
Of course not.
Never going to happen.
unidentified
Not in the US.
tim pool
But in Russia.
In Russia.
ian crossland
In South America, too.
In Peru.
t becket adams
I was going to say in Costa Rica.
I was in Costa Rica once and I was warned the cops will try to shake you down for a bribe.
So, OK, yeah, to that point, that's what you mean.
tim pool
It's substantially more common in so many other countries.
And I wonder why that is.
t becket adams
More robust press?
Rule of law.
More robust, I do.
tim pool
Scruples like rule of law here.
Like I can't do that.
That's just wrong.
Or I could get in trouble.
You know, we we we know the cops going to arrest you for it.
There's your most likely.
t becket adams
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
But in these other countries, the cops expect it.
t becket adams
I don't know.
I mean, I think maybe just a lack of robust law system, lack of respect for law.
I'm not trying to get all, you know, Blue Lives Matter or whatever, but like, this is a very sort of strong culture in America of, you know, you pull over, you respect, dot, dot, dot, and you have that interaction.
I have never once been tempted to slide a cop a $50 bill or anything.
tim pool
Yeah, that's weird.
t becket adams
I think that would end very poorly for me.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, that would probably just be like a hatred.
ian crossland
It's a felony, I would imagine.
It's a felony, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
t becket adams
Yeah, you can't bribe a cop.
I believe.
ian crossland
Rule of law, man.
That's a big part of the foundation of this whole project of the United States.
It's sad when people do things that, especially people in power, do things that are illegal and don't get reprimanded for it.
t becket adams
Like the President's son?
ian crossland
Yeah, and like Hillary Clinton with emails, like that was viciously illegal what she did.
t becket adams
She skirted all FOIA laws.
ian crossland
I'm not all into like punishing everyone for every crime all the time.
Like I definitely like leniency and like these people on January 6th should be released.
That should all be pardoned.
We need unity right now.
But I mean, at some point you got to respect law and order.
tim pool
You know why you get January 6th?
Because of Hillary Clinton getting away with the servers.
t becket adams
I mean, I don't know if the two are generally connected, but I will say one thing that's really demoralizing and easy to give into anger is the expectation that people like Hunter and Hillary will never see justice.
They break laws that anyone else would go away for.
tim pool
This is what I mean.
When people feel demoralized, like there's nothing they can do to actually get justice, we're living under anarcho-tyranny, they just...
What do you do when you back an animal into a corner?
It's gonna fight.
You get a rabbit.
Rabbits like to run, right?
But you put it into a one-dimensional burrow, for instance.
They have nowhere to go.
They fight.
t becket adams
And when people get desperate, they do desperate things.
Going back to our earlier conversation about desperation.
tim pool
That's why I agree with you on the pardoning of these people.
Outright.
Because as much as people might not want to do it, you need to be like, okay, we're gonna call a timeout on this one.
We're gonna say, guys, please don't do this.
We're gonna let these guys go.
ian crossland
John Hancock did that after Shea's Rebellion.
We've talked a little bit about it.
Right after the Articles of Confederation were signed, big, you know, I don't know if you know much about the Farmers' Rebellion that caused them, basically they had to centralize command of taxes because the states were taxing the farmers.
The farmers didn't have the money to pay, so they revolted.
John Hancock pardoned those guys.
I think two people ended up getting put to death for the rebellion, but he pardoned, like, everybody that was involved.
And because of that, we have a country today.
If he'd persecuted those people, we probably wouldn't have.
t becket adams
I don't know.
I haven't actually thought about it.
I have been troubled by the fact that some people are still being kind of held indefinitely.
ian crossland
It's terrifying.
That is so pointless and terrifying right now.
t becket adams
I think maybe the word trouble is a little too much of an underreaction.
The fact that people are still being held is not right.
I mean, charge them.
Charge them.
Set them on a court date, at least.
This indefinite detention thing.
I don't think that's the right response.
I don't know about pardoning, though.
I haven't quite thought about that.
I mean, a lot of vandalism, at least, at the very least, is a crime.
ian crossland
Right.
You could say if you pardon them that they might do it again.
That argument could be like, hey, we're not going to.
But I mean, if you do it a second time, you're going away, buddy.
Don't don't trespass on on federal property.
Learn your lesson.
But they weren't there to hurt people.
t becket adams
Well, I mean, I think a lot of the security forces there that day would beg to differ.
ian crossland
I guess that's a good point.
It's contention.
Some people think they were there to hurt people.
Some people don't.
I mean, I see it as that they were there protesting out of rage, but I didn't see any like overt attacks.
t becket adams
I mean, but there was like the sticks and the beatings and all that stuff.
You can see the footage of that.
There's a lot to say.
ian crossland
It was a mindless crowd of a lot of different wants.
tim pool
Eighteen men were convicted and sentenced to death in Shay's Rebellion.
ian crossland
Eighteen?
unidentified
Eighteen.
tim pool
Out of four thousand.
ian crossland
And he pardoned the rest?
tim pool
Uh, most were granted amnesty for signing- they would say signed confessions, acknowledging participation.
Uh, several hundred were indented on charges, but most- most were pardoned, and 18 were convicted and sentenced to death.
ian crossland
I gotta read more about this whole process, because I know John Hancock actually stepped down before that rebellion.
He was like, I'm not getting involved.
And then the rebellion happened.
tim pool
And the interesting thing is, it's not Shays, like apostrophe S. It's Shays, his name.
His name is S-H-A-Y-S.
It was the Shays Rebellion, not Shays Rebellion.
ian crossland
Interesting.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, he fought in the Revolutionary War, and then because of... He came back from the war.
ian crossland
They didn't pay the troops in the Revolutionary War, so all these farmers came back from the war with no money.
Then they found out that they owed all this money in taxes because their farm had been accruing all this debt while they were gone.
They didn't have the money to pay for it.
So they made them debtor slaves.
They put them in prison.
And the farmers had enough.
They would go to the courthouses.
tim pool
And that famous letter from Thomas Jefferson about the Tree of Liberty comes from Shays' Rebellion.
t becket adams
But at the very least, for the Capitol rioters, I'm still stuck on the sort of preferred term, insurrectionist, because I'm not sure if that's explicitly accurate.
But at the very least, assaulting a police officer is a crime.
A lot of officers were assaulted that day.
I know the one was not beaten to death with a fire extinguisher.
I'm still kind of amazed at the amount of false information that came out.
Which, I mean, I guess I'm not amazed because when you have chaotic events, you get a lot of conflicting reports.
Officer Sicknick, according to the D.C.
Medical Examiner, did not succumb to any injuries, internal or external, suffered that day.
But there is ample footage of people beating police officers, shoving them, the guy getting crushed in the door.
ian crossland
Maybe you could pardon all the trespassing charges and then just, if people were violent, bust them for that.
If they broke windows, bust them for that.
t becket adams
You can see there was lots of damage done to the Capitol building.
The one thing, I mean, it's a tricky issue for me to discuss because a lot of the legal ramifications and legalese that's involved in it.
But one thing that has always struck me, I was watching it and I used to, when I was living in D.C.
when it happened, I wasn't at the Capitol.
I was a couple blocks away where I lived.
I live in Capital East.
Hillies, whatever it's called.
One thing that struck me, though, is I thought for sure watching that whole unfold, the crowds, the nervousness, the screaming, the breaking through doors, the shattering windows.
I was convinced that I was about to see live streamed Kent State 2.0.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
t becket adams
I am amazed.
Now, Ashley Babbitt is dead.
Rest in peace.
Again, I'm not making any legal judgments on her participation or anything.
I don't like it when people get killed.
I don't like death.
I'm amazed that the one death that's directly connected to the violence that day, there's one death.
I'm amazed.
Whoever trained those police officers in, you know, violent response, I think should get an award.
Because I thought for sure there was going to be guns were going to be drawn, people were, you know, because they were getting... The cops were letting them in.
tim pool
What do you mean?
t becket adams
Some cops were, not all of them though, but especially when you had like that one part, uh, where the speaker's chamber, it goes in where Babbitt jumped in.
I mean, they clearly were not letting him into that.
tim pool
That's where they were, they were, they were pushing against each other.
t becket adams
Right.
tim pool
And then you had the other doors where the cops actually opened them up.
t becket adams
Well, no, no, no, not the speaker's chamber.
You had two guards, uh, two cops guarding it.
And then they, you know what I mean?
tim pool
The building, outside the building.
t becket adams
Some doors were open, not all of them.
Some of them were forcibly open.
You can see the inside.
tim pool
What I'm saying is, There was this push into like one of the center doors, and then you get like the SWAT, the cops with special, they're shoving, people are getting smashed inside the, you know, rotunda or whatever.
And then you had doors off to the side.
There's video of it.
You just opened them right up.
t becket adams
Some of them, yeah.
tim pool
And the cops were like, disagree with it, but you agree with your right to protest.
t becket adams
Yeah, I saw that.
tim pool
Some cops are taking selfies with them.
t becket adams
Well, no, that's weird because I remember in the aftermath of that, there was a lot of talk about how the cops were in on it.
And I think that was ignoring that as a, as a riot mitigation efforts or Ryan mitigation tactics.
This is something you can do.
We can kind of ferry people, get it out of your system, get out of the building.
As opposed to, you know, you're not going to know Lord, the ring stand there with your shield and try to do a battle to the death, especially when you're grossly outnumbered.
I don't know if we need to litigate all of this, but I just keep thinking about the day and the sort of chaos and confusion and I'm still amazed that there were not more like itchy trigger fingers.
I think that's a huge blessing and I'm amazed.
Again, I'm not trying to mitigate Babbitt's death or anything or make any legal judgment on that, but I'm surprised that there was one death.
ian crossland
You were there.
t becket adams
I wasn't there.
I was not in the building.
I lived near there.
ian crossland
You were close by though.
t becket adams
Close by helicopters.
You watched.
unidentified
Wow.
t becket adams
Yeah, and I'm just amazed that it wasn't more violent.
Now, I know whoever sees this will probably, You say the insurrection wasn't violent?
I'm not saying that.
tim pool
Well, we now know it wasn't.
t becket adams
I'm surprised it didn't spiral more out of control, is what I'm saying.
tim pool
It is now definitive it was not an insurrection, as much as we were always saying it wasn't.
The FBI came out and said that there's no evidence of coordination, not from the present or anybody else, and of the groups that actually planned on breaking in, they had no actual plans.
t becket adams
But does that, and see this is why I was saying earlier, it's difficult to discuss because does that, I don't know if that negates the legal term for insurrection just because... No one's been charged with insurrection.
Just because there's no insurrection.
Just because there's no coronation doesn't mean it's not an insurrection.
I mean storming Capitol Building during Congress's business to certify the election, doesn't that not technically count as insurrection?
tim pool
Ask prosecutors why they're not charging anybody with insurrection then.
Because there's none.
Didn't happen.
t becket adams
I guess, but I was just saying, I don't know the fact that there was no coordination.
I don't think that means that it was an insurrection.
tim pool
I actually think if there's no coordination, there's no insurrection.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
So like if you, how are you going to, the insurrection is the idea is like a direct, it's intent.
It's a goal.
It's, it's, you're doing a thing for a reason.
It was a riot.
t becket adams
Yeah.
A lot of people who've been interviewed since then who participated in it, almost to a man, they're like, I have no idea why I did it.
I just got caught up.
You know, you, I don't know if any of you have been involved in sort of a, um, Spur of the moment, mass movement, activity with a group.
tim pool
I've covered a bunch of riots.
I know, to avoid.
ian crossland
I was at Mardi Gras.
t becket adams
Occupy Wall Street, that's a good one.
ian crossland
Mardi Gras in St.
unidentified
Louis.
tim pool
Brazil, Turkey.
t becket adams
Yeah, but like, no, no, I was saying like, the Zuccotti Park stuff, like a lot of that is just, you get this mentality, let's do it and be legends!
You don't really think about it.
And we've seen this post-insurrection, and a lot of people have been like, I have no idea why I did it.
tim pool
Mob mentality.
t becket adams
Mob mentality.
It's a strange, real thing.
ian crossland
Is that why people cheer at sports events?
t becket adams
No.
ian crossland
Why are you screaming?
You can't disturb the opponent's team if you yell really loud.
tim pool
If someone scores, your team scores a point, you're gonna be like, yeah.
ian crossland
Also, on a microcosm, I was sitting at my friend's baseball game, and my friend hit the ball, and I went, yeah!
Really loud and the first baseman got stunned when I screamed and the ball went by.
I was like, I'm the fourth man.
t becket adams
So no, you can, you can, with the riot, you can break it down to, was it insurrection or was it just people got caught up and things got out of control?
I think more of the latter is what it seems to me.
The thing that I keep coming back to is I'm just surprised it didn't spiral more.
With the lack of communication, half the cops apparently walked out and just like walked home.
Some people walked out and some people were hospitalized.
It's like, there was no communication.
Half the cops didn't know what was happening.
A lot of, about 140 police officers suffered various injuries.
And yet, like, there wasn't shootings.
There weren't people, you know, don't you move.
I'm surprised.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm just surprised.
I really thought stuff was going to go sideways super fast, super hard.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
t becket adams
And I'm extremely grateful it didn't.
tim pool
When I heard there was tear gas in the rotunda, I was like, oh, Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
It's getting hot.
Facebook banned me for it.
t becket adams
That one video of the one Capitol, um, Capitol police officer who like redirected the protesters away from the main chamber.
tim pool
I don't, I don't actually believe that.
t becket adams
Perhaps my point though, in that video, he has his hand on his gun the whole time.
Like, again, I'm just saying the, everything there seemed to me to be about one degree from going really bad, really fast.
And it did go really bad for one person.
tim pool
I'm just surprised it wasn't more.
They pushed this narrative that he guided the group away or whatever.
And I'm like, I don't believe that was his intent.
I think he was just backing away from an angry mob.
t becket adams
I don't know if that was his intent.
It's what he did, though.
Even if you accident into something successful.
tim pool
No, he didn't, though.
He went up the stairs and went a specific direction.
In fact, you could argue he actually led them to Pelosi's office.
Then they broke in and then they stole her laptop.
Why don't we say that?
t becket adams
I'm sorry, what?
tim pool
it did what we say that actually led them to help you let them look the cops
open the doors we know that and this one cop all of a sudden is is guiding the
protesters next another and polos his office still in a laptop yeah I think
that the point is the cop was backing away from an angry mob you don't want to
confront them and he chose a direction to back away at the cops should also be
ian crossland
pardoned for any involvement in this The people didn't hurt people.
Like you said, there wasn't violence.
There was very, very, very little violence.
The Ashley Babbitt thing is terrifying, but she was, like, forcing her way, it looked like, into the inner chamber.
And, you know, they're defending the Capitol.
None of these, those people, basically, the cops and the people kept it pretty civil.
So I think we should move on from this.
My fear is that the Patriot Act, you know, terror investigators want to use this as an example to, like, use their state tools of spying on the American people.
tim pool
They're putting, they put the list together.
They're going after the communications of Trump supporters.
Right.
ian crossland
But it's, that doesn't make, that's not the liberty angle right now.
The liberty angle is to pardon this mess and move on.
We have the Afghan, we have people like, On their last legs in Afghanistan right now, and we need a country, a unified nation.
tim pool
Imagine this.
Imagine if Joe Biden came out and announced a formal pardon for all of those involved in January 6th, and then all of the Democrats would come out supporting him, being like, you know, we agree this is the right thing to do.
But how would that manifest in the culture?
ian crossland
Yeah, people would start shivering because they have so much energy and they don't have anywhere to direct it.
They'd have to start meditating, you know?
tim pool
But I mean, think about it.
Like, if he did that, Democrats would immediately support the move saying this is this is leadership unifying this country.
And then Trump supporters would be like, that's a good thing that he's doing.
t becket adams
I agree.
I don't know if Democrats would get behind it.
They are committed to this to this investigation in this committee.
No, but it would be a hard sell.
I mean, you'd have to sell them on it first.
Obviously, he wouldn't blindside them.
tim pool
No, I think if Biden blindsided them, they would immediately fall in line.
ian crossland
He better do something if he wants to save face right now.
He's got to do some epic diplomacy.
t becket adams
No, it's interesting, though, watching some again.
I think a lot of the international reporting on Afghanistan has been pretty sharp and very sort of like uncompromising.
But it's been predictably disgusting watching how a lot of commentators and cable news talking heads.
I mentioned this because of January 6th specifically, you have people like Joy Reid, who've been trying to redirect attention from Afghanistan to January 6th, being like, we should talk about the terrorists at home.
tim pool
Yeah, our Taliban.
t becket adams
It's like, well, first of all, we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Secondly, you seem a little too excited about this.
It almost feels like you're using this like a political chip, just a little bit.
It seems like you really enjoy this and don't want to talk about that clear cluster over in Afghanistan.
tim pool
Yep.
t becket adams
So I don't, I would say don't let them distract.
You can do both things at the same time.
For me right now, my obvious interests lie in Afghanistan.
That, to me, seems to be the more pressing and horrifying and real, you know, real and clear and present danger.
tim pool
The reality is that Afghanistan is a distraction for the fact that they should put out a list of Trump supporters and they're going after private communications and the Fascism is coming to the United States.
I'm half kidding, by the way.
ian crossland
That was like trying to pull focus away from Afghanistan, too.
tim pool
Or the other way around.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
There's such bad press, this Afghanistan thing.
All these other things that are popping up right now.
tim pool
It's pro-wrestling.
It's just this.
It's just the Biden administration and the Democratic Party are just in a weird state of chaos.
And that's it.
t becket adams
I think the only thing keeping them together is that they have really good discipline when it comes to unity.
They're just sticking together.
And to the point about that list, that to me suggests more than anything that there's a large political angle.
It's not about restoring our norms or protecting our core democracy or whatever those cliches they're using.
It's a dragnet.
They're just splunking to see what they can catch.
tim pool
I think they want to understand Trump's strategy.
That's why Scott Pressler's on the list, because he registers Republicans to vote.
That's what he does, and he cleans up garbage.
So they want to understand the strategy Republicans have for registering new voters.
They go after Trump's spokesperson for the campaign.
They're just trying to get communications so they can see how he was running his campaign.
They want to get sources.
It's a big phishing expedition.
Not because I think they want to arrest people, necessarily.
They might get to that point.
But they want free consulting.
Like, I mean, look, the stuff that they're going to dig up from these activists costs money for campaigns, and now they're just taking it all.
t becket adams
But why would they go through this trouble when they already have stuff like Facebook in their pocket helping them with all their get-out-the-room stuff?
tim pool
They don't understand how Trump rallies people, and they want to understand his private metrics.
They want all of his data going back from April until after the election, on the election, meaning they want Trump, all communications between all these different government agencies and all the people who worked on the Trump campaign.
They want to know every detail of his campaign.
t becket adams
I know it's not the point, but I did laugh when I saw the list of people because it said all Trump children except for Tiffany.
unidentified
It said that?
It said that.
t becket adams
I was like, what is, poor Tiffany, what is going on there?
She's always left out.
tim pool
Doesn't make the list.
t becket adams
She didn't make the list.
They're going after all of them but Tiffany.
tim pool
That's a scary thing, though, man, that list.
t becket adams
To me, it seems just like kind of a desperate fishing expedition.
They're looking for something damming, so they're just... But to your point about Pressler, like, what does he have to do with any of this?
tim pool
Oh, but I mean, a bunch of people weren't even there on January 6th.
And what does their data going back from April have to do with the insurrection?
With the quote-unquote insurrection?
Nothing.
They're just grabbing a list of prominent and influential Trump supporters, and they're trying to intimidate.
They're trying to get access to private information.
They're going after their political rivals with the weight of government.
This spells the end of whatever you want to call it.
I mean, there will be an America in some fashion, but not as we've known it.
t becket adams
It can be.
It can be.
We can take it back.
I have boundless faith in this country, just not its leaders.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't know, though.
You know, we get to this point, I think, when we see 37.2% of the country want to secede, have their regional union secede from the greater country.
And then you see that the Democrats are willing to pull out, producing a list to actually spy on American communications and rival campaigns.
I'm like, man, we certainly crossed that Rubicon some time ago.
t becket adams
You know, it's always surprised me and not surprised me.
I found it so amusing during the Trump years, all that the mountain of news stories and commentary about how he he's him and the Russians stole the election with Facebook memes.
You know, Facebook was weaponized against us.
And I was like, do you all forget?
The glowing thousand plus word profiles you wrote after 2008 and 2012 about the Obama campaign's amazing Facebook strategy, how they work directly with Facebook to figure out where to find, I don't want to say not vulnerable, gettable voters and how the Obama people, they got this, they nailed it, but now using Facebook.
Oh my God.
You had memes about Jesus arm-wrestling Satan.
That's how he won.
tim pool
That proves it!
t becket adams
I mean, when they talk about how Russia hacked our election, and you keep drilling down, you keep asking, how did they steal the election?
Well, they put out disinformation.
First of all, that's not new.
Secondly, what disinformation?
I was actually at the museum.
I'm sorry, no, the Spy Museum in Washington, D.C., and they had an exhibit on, like, foreign propaganda and stuff.
And they had actually the Facebook meme of Christ and Satan wrestling.
It says, like if you want Trump to win, dislike or whatever if you want Hillary to lose.
And I was like, you think this propaganda swayed?
And find me the American who was on the fence about Hillary until they saw Christ arm wrestling Satan.
tim pool
And they're like, well, that's convinced me.
t becket adams
That convinced me.
I'm like, first of all, that person should not be allowed to vote.
That's the first thing.
That person's a crazy person.
Secondly, that didn't do it.
And then you drill down a little further and they go, well, they hacked Tony Podesta's emails and some other various Democratic officials.
I mean, you think that swayed the election?
I would argue the FBI and the Love Tower Comey thing hurt her more, which I think they believe, which is part of the reason they hate Comey.
tim pool
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And I'll just mention something, too.
Spotify took down one of my other, my Tim Pool, the Tim Pool Daily Show.
They took out an episode.
I have no idea why.
Which episode?
It was... I can't remember.
It was from a couple weeks ago, actually.
Just got an email saying, you have violated the terms and conditions.
Your episode has been removed.
And I'm like, for what?
ian crossland
From, like, the TimCast channel?
Yeah.
Politics?
It's all politics, right?
tim pool
Yeah, I have no idea what I could have said or anything.
I have no idea.
ian crossland
That's like if we're going to write a new constitution for the 21st century, part of it has to be that if someone's going to remove your content, they need to give you an explicit reason why.
tim pool
Yeah, and there should be some kind of process for it.
ian crossland
And a copy of the content as well.
tim pool
Let's read some of these Super Chats.
We got Make 1984 Fiction Again saying, Joe Biden is responsible for those deaths so he can only seek retaliation on himself.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's how you were saying how he's how he freaks out on reporters.
That's like what he's doing about the Taliban.
We were going to we're going to go after with everything we can if they messed if they hurt us.
It's like, dude, you put us in this position.
unidentified
Right.
t becket adams
And the different talking points, which is, well, this is why we're leaving.
Also, I need to put in more troops to go get them.
Or we might put in more troops to go get them.
Like, well, which one are we doing?
And I'm sorry, just to one of the things that I found particularly disgusting about all this is his first major press conference on the disaster over there.
He actually blamed the Afghans for the Taliban takeover.
He basically said those guys are too chicken, whatever word, a bunch of cowards.
They're weak.
I'm not going to sacrifice American sons and daughters to fight a civil war the Afghans won't fight for themselves.
I'm like, they have been 60,000, 60,000 Afghan police and national security members of the army have died since 2001 fighting the Taliban in their own backyard with every personal risk to their life and liberty in their own backyard.
They have nowhere to run if it fails.
And he blamed them for all of this.
tim pool
I'll say this too. I initially praised him for pointing out when we learned that the Afghan security forces just
basically abandoned ship I was like, you know, he's right about that
Why are we gonna fight if they won't and then we learned about the stripping of logistics air support Bagram and I
was like, okay Well, he stripped air support. He basically whacked him in
the leg with a crowbar and then said look they won't even fight
unidentified
All right, that's real bad That's my president.
tim pool
We got Gerald Armstrong says Biden committed treason by sending the Taliban
a list of American citizens in Afghanistan.
I, I, wow, that's a hard point.
unidentified
That one. Yeah.
tim pool
Providing material support to an enemy.
t becket adams
Oh, that's right.
I mean, at the very least, we need hearings on this.
We need an investigation.
And just to know who's in control, who's signing off on all this.
ian crossland
Yeah, when are they an enemy and when are they an ally?
Like, when's the line drawn?
Because we never declared war on them.
t becket adams
And the other thing, too, is you have the military saying one thing and the intelligence community saying another.
So somebody is lying.
Or if the communication is that bad, then we still need an investigation to figure out how do we get these two groups to actually talk?
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
The one free man says the past few days have shown us that it is no longer about America and its enemies.
It's about the establishment and its enemies.
They have forsaken American hostages in Afghanistan in order to pursue their political enemies and secure their power.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Brutal.
TheCurlyEfro says military politics is Leviathan.
May see Vax's political move by the high ups to get promoted, earn leadership positions by making troops get vaccinated.
A corpsman fell helping his Marines and treating the sick and injured in Afghanistan.
Til Valhalla.
Khinjin says, all of us keyboard warriors need to contact our rep and senators demanding this change.
Get involved in your local, state, and federal elections.
Stop being the silent majority and get involved.
Absolutely.
And we have some more treason comments.
Trash Panda says, how is this not high treason?
Forget impeachment, bring charges of high treason against Biden and his entire administration, including Harris.
ian crossland
My guess is because we never declared war on the Taliban, so it's like it's ambiguous if they're even considered enemies at this point.
We have a ceasefire with them and we're working with them to get our troops out.
t becket adams
I tell you what, one of the strangest things today, the, I can't remember his name, Army General and Biden, both of them today, We're talking how we've been in regular communication with the Taliban and cooperating with them to help, you know, deal with ISIS and all that.
And we sometimes share information with them, but also we can't trust them.
I was like, well, you've been how long you've been sharing information with the Taliban and why?
That's insane.
Even if it's for the effort of trying to root out ISIS, ISIS-K, whatever, why would you ever... What is this enemy of my enemy nonsense?
Is that what this is?
ian crossland
I think so.
I know, because it'll change from day to day who the enemy is.
t becket adams
We've been doing this for decades.
We arm one group to fight another, then both of them end up coming after us.
Same people, man.
tim pool
Alright.
DrDoctor says the May 1st deadline might have something to do with being in the middle of Ramadan.
Throughout the years, there has been a couple of ceasefires coordinated with the Taliban because of Ramadan.
Interesting.
Is that when Ramadan is?
t becket adams
I have no idea.
Because then there's no... Or is that when... Does the Taliban strictly observe combat during Ramadan?
tim pool
I have no idea.
t becket adams
I would be surprised if they did.
I mean, I wouldn't.
If that's what people expect of you.
ian crossland
Yeah, Monday the 12th of April is when it started this year.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
And it goes for 10 days, so it was just after Ramadan they were gonna... Alright, let's see.
Oh no, it ends May 12th, so yeah, it was during Ramadan they were gonna...
tim pool
James Rogers says, comparing Kabul to Saigon is giving into willful ignorance.
Saigon fell two years after we pulled out.
Stop feeding stupid.
We lost the peace, not war.
Interesting.
t becket adams
No, I've been saying that for weeks.
People are like, this is not our Saigon.
I'm like, you're right.
This is far, far worse than Saigon.
Way worse.
I mean, not to downplay it, but in comparison, Saigon got off easy compared to what Afghanistan's seeing now.
That's again, not to minimize what happened in Saigon.
tim pool
Here's an important one.
KF says Pelosi for president.
unidentified
Oh, God.
ian crossland
Geez, I feel like I'm in the boxing ring with whoever just said that to me.
t becket adams
It's like, I mean, do I not have any options here?
I mean, it's like you can have a bag of broken glass or some starving wolverines.
Which one do you want to be locked in a room with?
ian crossland
A constitutional convention.
It's just a matter of whipping.
tim pool
You need like two more seats.
ian crossland
51% of the country.
t becket adams
Sorry, Ron Paul.
Constitution?
ian crossland
Man, I haven't heard about that in a long time.
tim pool
1-2 says, Tim, Glenn raised $20 million in 48 hours.
We all donated.
This is an absolutely amazing audience.
God bless.
Yes, absolutely.
Everybody working.
That's fantastic.
ian crossland
Dude, shout out to Glenn Beck, man.
He spoke truth to power when he was at Fox News, and I highly recommend go check out his last episode with Fox.
Because they fired him for calling out the Federal Reserve and all the people, the bureaucrats that were trading money between the revolving doors.
It's incredible.
tim pool
They fired him for it.
ian crossland
The next day he got his release and he was no longer Fox.
And he started the blaze.
tim pool
He knew he was on his way out.
ian crossland
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't think he did.
He was like, what?
He got red-pilled and told everyone and they were like, no.
t becket adams
He'd been on his way out for a while.
He'd been wanting to launch his own sort of empire.
And then it got to a point where I think he just kind of Jerry Maguire-ed it.
ian crossland
Yeah, G. Edward Griffin on the show and then just blew it open.
It was awesome.
t becket adams
Full disclosure, I used to work for him.
So there's that.
ian crossland
I see so much respect for that dude.
t becket adams
Business editor at The Blaze for a while.
He's a true believer.
He genuinely believes in his faith and he acts out of it.
tim pool
Sue Prove says the State Department is stonewalling Beck.
They won't give him access to runways.
Also, he was warned they had a meeting about him and are looking to destroy him.
t becket adams
I hadn't heard that, but I would not be surprised because I was, as we were saying before the show, there was a, I cannot remember her name.
I'm drawing a blank.
She works for the New York times.
She organized two private jets to land and evacuate as many as they could.
And they got sent back.
I think they were only able to take like a total of four people that could fit hundreds on both of those planes or jets.
And they got turned away and she is, she's just beside herself, heartbroken.
Yeah.
She also raised money to do this.
Private enterprise tried to help out and do his part.
And a bunch of paper pushers turned him back.
ian crossland
That'll be remembered.
tim pool
We have a good question here.
Wicked Liss says, Tim, please help me understand why people did not leave months ago when they all knew about the withdrawal.
t becket adams
Uh, because unlike the United States Intelligence Service, they had no idea that the Taliban was poised to retake the entire country.
Probably.
That's my guess.
unidentified
Interesting.
t becket adams
I think if there was a general idea that maybe you should get out, you got a family, you got a business, I don't know, maybe, you know, it's a recommendation versus, oh my God, the Taliban now owns the entire country.
They've just conquered every major city.
And now here we go.
And the United States is just Irish combined.
tim pool
We got this from Arthur Madrigal.
He says, FDA approved the vaccine, but it is not available.
Is this true?
Only the emergency use vaccine available.
People have been sending me this.
Bannon said it.
It's not true.
They said there's a letter from the FDA that actually goes into detail about the Comirnaty vaccine and the Pfizer vaccine.
People are trying to claim that they're two distinct vaccines.
The FDA's website literally says, we are approving the vaccine that was formerly known as the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnity.
And the FDA letter says, Comirnity and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine are interchangeable and the same thing in the same formulation.
And for some reason, people are coming out and claiming it's not true, and I don't know why.
It's just, it's wrong.
People are emailing me and I'm like, did you guys even read the letter you sent me?
It literally says it's the exact same formulation, but under a different name.
It's the same thing!
Whatever.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Stephen Granger says, based on the information being shown, Biden should be forced to resign and be court-martialed.
I can also, I don't know if you can court-martial the president, do you?
I can also see an argument for having him charged with treason.
We'll just put it that way.
t becket adams
He is the commander of the U.S.
armed forces, but I don't think you can court-martial him.
tim pool
I don't know.
t becket adams
That's a good question.
I have no idea.
lydia smith
Yeah, curious now.
t becket adams
I will have to look that up.
unidentified
I think he has to look that up right now.
t becket adams
Now you're on a watch list.
ian crossland
Cannot be court-martialed, no.
According to Quora.com.
t becket adams
Yeah, even though you're the commander of the forces... He's considered a civilian, that's why.
Right, he's still a civilian.
ian crossland
A civilian is commanding the military.
What is wrong?
t becket adams
No, no, no, that's right.
tim pool
That's great.
t becket adams
No, civilian oversight of our U.S.
Armed Forces.
That's by design.
I'm all for that.
unidentified
Absolutely.
t becket adams
Which is part of the reason I was so pissed off about General Milley wising off during the Congressional hearing about white rage.
He answers to Congress and he was way out of line when he was like, let me, I'm sick of your stupid questions.
I want to understand.
It was like, oh, you, you sit down, you answer to them.
And that's very intentional.
ian crossland
I, the British seem to have a civilian leader and a military leader that co-run the country together.
I think they have the prime minister and then the something else.
t becket adams
And that's why we rebelled.
ian crossland
And, and like, what's his name?
Um, Winston Churchill was the, like the military head of the time, but he wasn't.
tim pool
They have a house of Lords.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's pretty messed up, but they have somebody running the domestic area and then someone that knows what they're doing running the military stuff.
We've got Biden running the military.
t becket adams
We're ideally supposed to have the generals who know what they're doing, but they are all answerable to Congress and the president.
They answer to the civilians.
And that's strictly by design, basically almost based on how it was done in Rome for a while before the generals took control.
But, uh, that's... I like that setup.
I want that setup.
I don't want the military kind of acting on its own.
Especially if you have people like Millie who is now, you know, off on his own doing critical race theories or whatever.
Like, no, no, no.
You answer to Congress.
And you keep your mouth shut unless asked a question.
tim pool
Here's a good one.
t becket adams
Not you personally.
unidentified
Well, hey.
t becket adams
Sorry.
ian crossland
I'm not getting rid of you.
tim pool
John Marafa says, Dr. Steve Turley stopped using the term rhinos and now uses Diablos.
Democrats in all but label.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
That's good.
t becket adams
Well, it's not bad.
It just makes me think of the video game, though.
tim pool
Diablo.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
What is this?
The Blank Podcast?
The Null Space Podcast with Ian Slater says, Glenn Beck is now the GOAT.
lydia smith
Indeed.
tim pool
It's great stuff.
Well, hopefully it's working out.
I don't know.
People are saying he's getting, you know, he's getting blocked or whatever.
t becket adams
I wouldn't be surprised.
I hope he's not.
But this has already happened once, so I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.
tim pool
The Wolf says, Millie and military are too busy dumping millions in a campaign to make memes and anything not in the SAW BLM agenda extremist in the military.
Crazy.
Joe Lynn Turk says the late Johnny Carson did an entire skit about the loser liar Joe Biden.
Carson straight up called him an idiot and he was absolutely correct.
t becket adams
Yeah, if you needed a reminder how long this guy's been in the game.
unidentified
Right.
t becket adams
But you know, I voted for his character.
You've been warned, man.
Come on, man.
tim pool
Nipple Sweat says Tim Kennedy brought 400 people onto the airfield.
The base commander kicked them out and told Tim this isn't the Tim Kennedy show.
lydia smith
What?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
So you're not allowed to rescue people?
They'll just throw you out?
t becket adams
I hadn't heard that.
I don't have to look that up.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
Crazy.
Alright, let's see.
Geoffrey Parra says, Beckett, I love your work.
Based on what you know, do you think the next conservative president should fire everyone on Mahogany Row at the Pentagon?
Also, Ian, is your hair Starfleet regulation length?
t becket adams
No, no, no it's not.
I think if there's anything that was proven by the Trump administration, I hate the term deep state because people automatically start conjuring up conspiracy theories and all that.
But it is absolutely true that there is a large contingent of deeply embedded career bureaucrats who have been there for years, who have a very specific idea of how they want things done, and they will work.
And they admit it.
They admitted this during the Trump administration.
They will work to thwart the president's agenda if they don't like it.
Simple as that.
That's actually what I think when I think deep state.
I don't think that, you know, it's sort of like meeting of the Bilderbergs are going to get together, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, no, there are career bureaucrats who are like, I don't like this.
So we're going to leak to the press.
We're going to obscure this or that.
I mean, they light general straight up light to Donald, President Trump.
When he ordered twice, he ordered saying we're withdrawing from Syria.
They lied to him about the numbers to just simply get around not having to withdraw everyone from Syria.
That's deep state stuff.
tim pool
And they lied to the American people.
t becket adams
They lied to the American people.
And then they come out and admit it.
And who was that?
The guy, anonymous from New York Times, Miles Taylor, straight up admitted, I work in the White House and I am actively thwarting the president's agenda.
That happens.
This has actually happened with several administrations.
So to the question, I think if anything was learned from the last president, yes, someone's going to have to start cleaning house.
I don't know how that goes about, what that looks like.
It's very hard to remove people once they're embedded.
tim pool
It was what Trump was famous for.
t becket adams
Firing people?
Firing people.
He was terrible at firing people when he was the president though.
tim pool
I know!
t becket adams
His tagline is, you're fired, and he couldn't fire anyone around him.
It was amazing.
tim pool
Yep.
t becket adams
In fact, some of the people he promoted were terrible.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Elizabeth Carmella Comedian says, when I saw Glenn's stream late last night from the Middle East, I myself donated to the Nazarene Fund.
That man is a true patriot.
I have so much respect and admiration for him and what he is doing.
If you can donate, please do.
Yeah, man.
I remember I got invited to go on Glenn's show.
They flew me out to Texas and sat down and talked to him for quite a bit because we did like a couple different shows in one sitting.
Because he's got like the radio show, the podcast, whatever.
And I thought it was absolutely fantastic.
He's calm, rational, reasonable.
We had arguments.
We had disagreements.
And it ended with a handshake.
And he was like, you know, you did great work.
I was like, yeah, it was absolutely fantastic.
Big fan of Glenn.
He's a great guy.
t becket adams
He's a hell of a showman.
tim pool
Oh yeah, definitely.
And they have this massive movie studio.
t becket adams
Yeah, it's crazy.
He considers himself, well he doesn't consider himself, he has very intentionally modeled himself after Orson Welles.
He wants to be a sort of auteur, renaissance man, bringing back various arts and stuff.
He loves Orson Welles, like adores Orson Welles, and he intentionally, he named it Mercury Radio Arts after Orson Welles' own production studio, which was Mercury.
Yeah, he just loves the man.
unidentified
And he loves Walt Disney.
tim pool
Sunny James says, the only reason America won the revolution was because the British public wasn't interested in funding it.
Despite what Hollywood narratives tell us, it wasn't because we fought the greatest revolution ever.
Scares me as this admin focused on us.
We won the revolution for a lot of reasons.
t becket adams
Yeah, there were several factors.
tim pool
But I think the French was probably one of the biggest.
t becket adams
It was a huge one.
tim pool
Because what actually happened is that the conflict in the colonies was essentially more war for the British when they were already at war in Europe.
They couldn't handle it.
t becket adams
Oh God.
It was also King George had lost his friggin' mind and was a horrible commander-in-chief at the time.
ian crossland
Really?
t becket adams
Yeah, he was going insane at the time.
That was actually a huge issue.
That was engulfing a lot of British politics at the time and was very distracting to the overall war effort.
ian crossland
The British had no stomach for a war in the Americas.
t becket adams
Turnabout is fair play.
ian crossland
Let them go.
tim pool
Turnabout is fair play.
t becket adams
We're getting slapped in the face by karma.
ian crossland
I'm kidding.
t becket adams
I'm mostly kidding.
I can't speak to Biden's mental health.
I'm not a doctor.
He's not my patient.
ian crossland
But history rhymes.
And if there was a revolution today in the United States and we had Biden as the commander trying to preserve the union, preserve the union, your main job.
t becket adams
Oh, God.
ian crossland
Pardon those people.
t becket adams
Can you imagine an American Civil War with Biden?
ian crossland
It would be, it would be terrible.
tim pool
May you live an interesting time.
unidentified
At least Abe Lincoln, that's a curse, was obsessed with preserving the Union.
t becket adams
You just cursed me.
tim pool
All right.
Jasper says, Tim, please look into the Ezekiel 38 prophecy.
We may be seeing it take shape in real time.
The stage is being set.
The players are moving into place.
We are really living in unprecedented, unprecedented times.
t becket adams
Interesting.
Unprecedented for America.
I wouldn't say it's unprecedented in world history.
I mean, far worse has happened to far greater, far larger civilizations.
Generally, though, in the longer span of time, it seems like we have very quickly learned how to Yeah, airplanes changes a lot because you literally get microchips.
ian crossland
Microchips.
t becket adams
That's the game changer.
ian crossland
Plastic.
A lot of it.
unidentified
Invest in plastics.
tim pool
LMV says, Tim, I live in New Zealand.
Our prime minister did a press conference on the attack in Kabul and was super cryptic saying that New Zealand will be part of an attack or invasion of Afghanistan.
ian crossland
Oh my god.
OK, so maybe it was intentional.
t becket adams
With what troops?
I thought they were all locked up in New Zealand.
tim pool
New Zealand has troops?
unidentified
They do.
t becket adams
No, no, they're great.
They work closely with us in a lot of the coalition efforts.
tim pool
Keep me commandos.
t becket adams
I love New Zealanders.
tim pool
Yeah.
Biden said, we will, you know, we will hunt you down.
And to me, I was just like, Oh, is that him saying like, we're going to be sending in troops to reinvade Afghanistan now?
t becket adams
We've already put in more than double the troops into Afghanistan now than we had earlier this year.
tim pool
And then they're hoping everyone will forget about it.
The news will start talking about other things, and then they'll be quietly deploying more and more soldiers to Afghanistan.
Amazing, isn't it?
t becket adams
I mean, at some point, this is going to sap the will from the actual armed forces.
Like, what do you do?
You're going to actually have to talk about morale in the U.S.
military.
I can't imagine it's doing well.
I can imagine that this is going to have a long-term hit on it.
That'll take some years to recover.
I'm not saying it's all going to fall apart and people are going to abandon their posts or whatever, but we need to make sure we look at this before.
I don't know.
ian crossland
It's coming up on 800,000 military servicemen weren't vaccinated.
I think it was 1.4 million total.
800,000 of them have had yet to be vaccinated as of like yesterday or day before, and they're going to force it by, well, I don't know what the date is that they said the 31st, four days from now, five days from now.
So that's another, and if they don't want to do it, you know, talk about morale.
tim pool
Rory Shively with eight clown face emojis.
ian crossland
That's about where I'm at.
t becket adams
He's a funny guy.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Brian Knowles says you said Bagram Air Base seemed intentional.
I've been thinking the same thing.
Every common sense thing to do done backwards.
Biden wrote the first Patriot Act, maybe arming terrorists.
ian crossland
Oh, I don't know.
t becket adams
I mean, to the conversation we were having about the riot and holding the rioters and all that.
I mean, we, we've been saying, Oh, what was it for the war on terror?
You know, what did we get out of it?
Well, we got one thing.
We got an explosion of the surveillance state on us.
So that's great.
Now the government, as we know, not just the American government, governments in general do like pretenses to get more control.
What does Afghanistan do?
Does that give people more control?
Does it give them less?
tim pool
The media is going to go full gung-ho with like Biden is a true president once he starts sending in the troops and once all these other countries start bolstering troops.
ian crossland
He's going to rescue them from Trump's botched escape plan.
I don't know.
t becket adams
I think a lot of people are underestimating how sapped a lot of Americans feel after this of 20 years.
I don't think we talk about we're going to put more troops and they do it quietly like you were saying that's one thing but a big grand we got to do this America I don't there's not going to be support people don't want it.
I don't want it.
tim pool
No, but the media will say they do.
And the polls will come out, and the polls will ask very, like, funny questions like, do you think it would be bad if babies are killed in Afghanistan?
And they say, yes, I do.
Like, they support the war.
t becket adams
Yeah, with a sampling size of like 130 people.
Right?
98% of Americans!
tim pool
All from D.C.
on, like, K Street.
The average income, you look it up, it's like $486,000 a year.
Who are these people that are polling?
t becket adams
We surveyed 130 defense contractors.
tim pool
The average job is Halliburton and Boeing.
t becket adams
Yeah, man.
There's so much money.
tim pool
Do you want to deploy more Americans to go fight and nation-build?
I don't think so.
100% yes.
We polled one guy.
It's the CEO of Lockheed.
t becket adams
No, but it's like if there's no will for it, Americans are actually opposed to it.
That comes back to the voting booth.
tim pool
You saw that in Syria, man.
It comes back to the voting booth.
People shut that down.
What is Biden?
You think Biden's going to get a second term?
t becket adams
I don't think he's going to last his first term.
tim pool
So Biden can come in and be like, I deploy 100,000!
Troops!
unidentified
You know, they didn't get the vaccine to go to Afghanistan!
tim pool
And then Americans are gonna be like, get him out, get him out.
No one will have the will to do it.
Republicans will sit on their hands.
Come 2024, they'll vote for someone else and go, yay!
And then we'll have three years of troops in the Middle East.
t becket adams
But you're forgetting 2022, which Democrats are terrified of.
I don't know if they want to do anything.
I'm just saying, if there's one thing both parties love, it's holding power and gaining more power.
And if they know they're going to get wiped out on a landslide in 2022, I think they, they won't go.
tim pool
What are the Republicans going to do?
Well, that's always, they're going to get in and go and then they're all going to get in and they're going to have the house.
And then Kevin McCarthy is going to be like, slow down there Democrats.
And then Mitch McConnell is going to be like, slow down there Democrats.
And that's all they're going to do.
t becket adams
Nah, I disagree.
McCarthy, yes.
I'm generally I'm generally supportive of McConnell.
I have been impressed with he's he's a master parliamentarian and he has made so many gains in the judiciary.
I think people always sell him a little short.
tim pool
The problem with conservatives is that they're Imagine you're playing a game of football and you tell your team to run to the end zone and defend it from there.
And then the other team is like, okay, and they casually walk to the red zone.
It's like, why would you let them do that?
That's Republicans.
They don't fight on the cultural issues that shape our country.
They think, if we just get a judge, we're fine.
Okay, then, congratulations.
Because in ten years, all the judges are gonna be ultra-woke, and you're gonna be like, well, this one's only a little woke.
Because you're not actually doing anything to defend your values or fight back.
t becket adams
I mean, I don't know if I would blame McConnell for that explicitly.
I mean, you can only blame him so much if the people he gets through aren't very good.
He's still gotten through the best of the crop.
But the thing I will say that you're absolutely right on is that social issues have long been put in the back burner and stuff like the Republican Party has basically tolerated pro-lifers since Roe v. Wade as just a necessary part of the coalition.
They don't care what they think or what they believe.
unidentified
Yep.
t becket adams
They haven't tried anything to like over... I remember this.
tim pool
During the election.
Democrats are coming out demanding universal health care and a Green New Deal.
What are Republicans demanding?
t becket adams
Tax cuts.
Same thing.
I mean, look at what the infrastructure bill.
That's not even gonna get held up.
ian crossland
Geez, six trillion?
t becket adams
Four.
Four, I believe.
It was one separate two bills, two separate bills, 1.2 and 3.5.
So upwards of five trillion.
Because we have that money.
ian crossland
What was the 6 trillion number that got knocked around yesterday?
t becket adams
I mean, maybe it got revised upwards.
Did they add any writers to it?
ian crossland
I don't know, I don't know.
t becket adams
They just put anything.
Make it 10!
tim pool
This is interesting right here.
Cryptic says the Supreme Court just overruled the eviction ban.
t becket adams
I had seen that actually Kavanaugh wrote the opinion on it.
I haven't had a chance to read it though.
tim pool
Did he write, F you Biden, I already said this, why am I saying it twice?
t becket adams
Because Biden doesn't remember the first time.
tim pool
And so if the Supreme Court can say, this is illegal, and Biden says, I'll do it again, what's to stop him from just doing it again?
lydia smith
Again and again.
t becket adams
You know, what enforcement mechanisms are there?
tim pool
Supreme Court doesn't have any.
t becket adams
They just take him back to the court.
I mean, the president already said once, he's like, that'll get sorted out in the court in a couple of months.
But until then, people will be safe.
I'm like, so legislation by tangling things up in the judiciary, like that's not a way to legislate.
tim pool
I think what it really means is that if you are a landlord in any capacity, you can now just disregard the illegal decrees from the president because they have no merit in the country.
And if you have to go to court, you'd win.
Because you're going to be like, here's the Supreme Court, your honor is going to go... Going to court?
t becket adams
How long is that going to take?
tim pool
Yep.
t becket adams
A lot of people don't have that time.
tim pool
I think it basically just means you can ignore Biden's fake eviction, illegal eviction, man.
t becket adams
Yeah, but what do you tell the squatters?
tim pool
You'll kick him out, what do you mean?
t becket adams
I mean, what happens is he doesn't know.
The president's on my side, he says I can stay.
tim pool
You call the police?
t becket adams
But what law are the police enforcing?
tim pool
You're evicting them.
t becket adams
I know, but if the president has already put a moratorium on that.
tim pool
Supreme Court has already said it doesn't exist.
t becket adams
But then the president does it again.
I mean, that's why I'm asking, like, what's the enforcement mechanism?
tim pool
Well, it's an issue of whether or not the police are anarcho-tyrannists, and I'd imagine they are.
In which case, the cops are gonna go to you and go, sorry, I can't help you.
But then, rest assured, if you try to do anything to defend your property, they'll arrest you on the spot.
Probably.
Yep, abolish the police!
That's right.
All right, let's see.
Jessica Cora says, we left hundreds of portable biometric scanners with the fingerprint and eye scans of over 50,000 Afghanistan military officials.
unidentified
Whoa.
t becket adams
That's true.
You've heard that, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
t becket adams
We were documenting and recording everything about the Afghans we worked with and the Taliban got all that information.
Fingerprints, eye scans, everything.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of people are mentioning that SCOTUS has lifted the eviction moratorium.
But like I said, like we were saying, I don't know if it matters because Biden illegally did it in the first place.
Why does the Supreme Court need to say it twice?
t becket adams
Right.
That's the thing that I didn't get.
The Supreme Court really didn't even say it the first time.
They said it twice.
But this is where I get into this weird area of like, wait a minute, the Supreme Court, there's usually this assumption that the Supreme Court ruled and that's that.
Now they've done it twice.
To your point, what happens if Biden comes back another time and says, well, no.
tim pool
They tweak it a little bit.
That's what Cuomo was doing.
He'll tweak it a little bit.
He'll say, oh, now we're going to do an eviction suspension.
So you can file the eviction, but it can't be enforced for six months.
t becket adams
It's so funny how fast they turn from no rule, no law of the land to More like a guideline on the land.
tim pool
More like guidelines.
unidentified
Alright, let's see.
tim pool
Christopher Bell says, will you have someone that's on the other side of your argument, like Dan Crenshaw?
We'd love to have Dan Crenshaw.
But you know the big challenges with getting politicians on the show?
Every time we hit up one of these politicians, they're like, oh, we're fans, we'd love to come on the show, or, oh, definitely, it'd be great.
Send an email to this person, and we'll set it up.
And then we do!
And then the person doesn't respond back, or responds back with like, yeah, we'll figure out the dates.
And then they never respond back.
Sounds like American politics.
The waste of time.
t becket adams
What do they mean on the other side?
Like someone who's pro-state in Afghanistan?
unidentified
Yes.
t becket adams
Oh, is he necessarily pro-stay in Afghanistan?
I think he is.
I thought he just wanted a small residual force security.
tim pool
Right, small residual force, I think.
t becket adams
Like Syria.
tim pool
And, but I actually have said that myself, like, I think we should have never gone into Afghanistan, but if we have, because we've had people on the show who have said this, we need a small, we need commanders, intelligence, logistics, but a very small group with drone support, and we're done.
And I'm like, I'll take that.
If it prevents this, if it means we're getting all of our troops out, we're not going to waste time on this, but we'll have to keep a little bit.
I'll draw it down substantially.
I like the sound of that.
t becket adams
It's so crazy to remember or to think in terms of everything that's happening now, that at the height of the Iraq war and even to the lead up to Obama withdrawing from Iraq, Afghanistan was always the good war, the justified war.
And now here we are.
tim pool
Man, I don't know, but I will tell you this.
We're going to have a members-only podcast episode coming up at around 11 or so p.m.
at TimCast.com, so go to TimCast.com, become a member, check out all of the awesome articles we have.
We have a really great story on the ground covering—actually, maybe we'll talk about this for the member segment.
We'll talk about some of the original reporting we got.
People protesting and risking their jobs saying they expect to be fired in the next couple of weeks because of the mandates in New York.
Go to TimCast.com, check it out.
Don't forget to smash the like button, subscribe to this channel.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
We put up clips on all the different platforms.
And you can follow me personally at TimCast.
Do you want to shout out anything, Beckett?
t becket adams
My mom?
I don't know.
tim pool
You want to shout out your mom?
t becket adams
No, I mean, hi, mom.
Don't make it weird.
Hey, follow me on Twitter at Beckett Adams.
unidentified
There you go.
t becket adams
There we go.
Some nice self-promotion right there.
ian crossland
Good to see you, man.
All right.
t becket adams
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
Follow me at Ian Crossland and at iancrossland.net if you'd like to get to my nexus point.
Hey, I hope you're feeling all right.
That was a rough show tonight.
This is pretty messed.
lydia smith
And I actually do know how to do a shout out.
I'm like Beckett.
You guys should follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids as I'm approaching the number of followers as Sour Patch Kids.
Very excited about this.
This is my goal in life and I appreciate all your help.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out everybody.
I know this was, this was, it's, it's, it's so brutal because I'm like, you know, some days we have fun stories, uh, that are like still politically relevant and everything, but usually, you know, it's always so negative.
So go to TimCast.com if you want to hear more of that.
Thanks for hanging out.
We'll see y'all there.
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