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July 30, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - GOP Reps REFUSE Masks After Pelosi Orders ARREST For No Masks w/Karol Markowicz

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nancy Pelosi is ordering masks to be worn on the House floor or technically in the built
		Congress building where she has the authority, I guess.
		There was a funny stunt pulled off by some Republicans where they're like, well, she has no jurisdiction on the Senate side.
		So they stood in the middle of the building.
		But yeah, she's saying if you don't wear a mask, You'll be arrested.
		She has ordered the Capitol Police to arrest staff and visitors for not wearing masks.
		I guess the instructions when it comes to House members is to notify somebody, oh no, they're breaking the rules.
		Well, the Republicans pushed back and a large group went and refused to wear masks.
		But of course, Washington D.C.
		has now brought back their mask mandates.
		Nevada's brought back their mask mandates.
		And it seems like lockdowns, I think we're going to see lockdowns.
		Mitch McConnell was alluding to that, saying if we don't get everybody vaccinated, it's going to be a lot like it was last year.
		And some people are arguing he meant with the deaths, and other people are saying he means the lockdowns.
		And I think he's meaning the lockdowns.
		But here we go.
		I mean, you look at, right now, one of the biggest challenges is that there's endless contradictory information coming out from news organizations, from medical experts, and the whole thing is just static at this point.
		It's all noise.
		Now, I can't tell you why that is, and I can't tell you what the latest numbers are, because, you know, we were talking here before the show, and we're, like, giving conflicting information, because the news report's coming out.
		You could have someone from the CDC say, you know, X equals 2 yesterday, and then today, some writer sees it, writes up the new story, and it goes live at 11 PM, right at the same time there's a press conference from another doctor saying X equals 3.
		And now you have two conflicting stories from mainstream news outlets, and no one has any idea what's going on.
		Some people have said, the noise is on purpose.
		So that no one can know what's really happening, and then everything just falls apart.
		So I gotta say, Steakums, you nailed it!
		There is a massive distrust in this country, and society is collapsing, but I'd go a little bit further than you Steakums.
		For those that aren't familiar, Steakums, the steak brand, for some reason put out this big thread about the American existential crisis we're facing with polarization.
		And I think we've hit that mark.
		I think Joe Biden's approval rating between Democrats and Republicans just shows that no one cares what's true.
		They right now just, well, I shouldn't say that.
		They both care about what's true, but both claim that they're right and the other side is wrong.
		Personally, I think one side is more right than the other.
		It's why independent voters tend to disapprove of Joe Biden, because when you actually look at what's going on, but regardless, a lot of people just won't believe anything.
		So here we go.
		There's going to be a, I don't know, stakums.
		If you are right about what's happening, then we're going to get to a point where this problem can never be solved.
		Although I think we're probably past that point.
		So we'll be talking about that stuff.
		We are being joined by Carol Markowitz, columnist for the New York Post.
		How's it going?
		Do you want to introduce yourself real quick?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Hi, I'm Carol Markowitz.
		I'm a columnist at the New York Post.
		I also write a bunch of other places often.
		So check it out, my Twitter page.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello, everyone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's back.
unidentified		He's back.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm back.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've arrived.
unidentified		Let's roll.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I'm here in the corner as well, pushing buttons.
		Excited to hear what Carol has to say.
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		Let's read this first story and talk about what's going on here in the Capitol with Nancy Pelosi.
		The story from TimCast.com.
		House arrests.
		Capitol Police instructed to arrest staff and visitors not wearing face masks.
		A new memo circulated on Capitol Hill this week after the CDC revised its guidelines for vaccinated Americans, instructing police to arrest visitors and staff who refuse to wear face masks in certain areas.
		Quote, Although this applies to the members of Congress, officers should not arrest any member for failure to wear a mask or to comply with the mask mandate, the guidance states.
		Any member who fails to comply with a request to wear a mask should be reported to the House Sergeant at Arms Office.
		Quote, this is such an overstep of Speaker Pelosi's authority to basically make our Capitol Police arrest staff members and report on members of Congress.
		Rep Kamek told Fox News Thursday, it's absolutely unconscionable that this is where we're at.
		I cannot comply with tyrannical order, Kamek added.
		This is the people's house, not Nancy Pelosi's house.
		The Speaker of the House does not control the U.S.
		Capitol Police.
		Pelosi spokesperson Drew Hamill told Fox News, we were unaware of the memo until it was reported to the press.
		Quote, if you're a Capitol Police officer, you got orders.
		If a vaccinated staffer comes across in the House side without a mask, you're ordered to arrest them, but not on the Senate side.
		House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said, this is not the America we know.
		So we're seeing that Steve Scalise said it was Pelosi directing police to arrest vaccinated people.
		And they're saying she doesn't control the police.
		That's a non-denial denial.
		Saying, oh, but she doesn't control the police.
		Yes, but you can go to them and say, I've ordered all masks to be worn.
		And they said, okay, all right, we'll go arrest them.
		So there's a big difference between her controlling them and instructing what the rules are.
		I can't imagine that it's not Pelosi, because if it was the Capitol Police making the decision, then the Senate side would be equally as affected, which it's not.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I'm just glad Democrats have found some policing to approve of.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I would think that, you know, they could send in some social workers here to get the masking on, but I don't know why we need to get the police and the sergeant at arms involved.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I mean, that would be a brilliant stunt to be hilarious, right?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like Matt Gaetz is walking through the House chamber or whatever, and then a social worker comes out and, like, takes a knee and says, like, Matt, is something wrong?
		But they don't know how to do funny things like that.
		I'll tell you what, this story really freaked me out.
		Because it's dangerously close to... You know, it's dangerously close to an old story of a man being caned in Congress.
		You know this story?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, back during the Civil War, there was a caning.
		One rat was beating the other for the caning.
		Now, I don't think Nancy Pelosi is going to come out and beat anybody.
		And I'm not suggesting anyone's going to be violent.
		What I'm saying is we're getting dangerously close to the point where someone would apply force against another member of Congress.
		Now, I understand it said, don't arrest a member of Congress.
		What about the staffers?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that means you're going to end up seeing.
		You're going to have Marjorie Taylor Greene or Matt Gaetz or Lauren Boebert not wearing masks saying, we refuse, and their staffers are going to be forced to wait under threat of arrest?
		I imagine many of them are going to say no.
		And so we're getting dangerously close to that point where members of Congress, well, particularly this would be the Democrats, trying to exert force over their political opposition.
		That's not going to go anywhere good.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and for what?
		Like, for not wearing a piece of cloth over their faces after almost all of them have been vaccinated?
		Like, what are we doing here?
		I think that's also, like, they did this big splashy thing with the arrests, and it's about something really stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think the issue is no one has any idea what's going on anymore.
		A lot of people are pointing out that part of demoralization, you guys have seen the Yuri Bezmenov thing, I'm sure, we get suggested it like 50 times a day.
		One of the things that happens is there's mass media that gives out so much contradictory information, no one has any idea what's going on anymore.
		And this is where we've been for a long time.
		So there's a really great example I tweeted out, the media hates you and thinks you're stupid because Almost every single major outlet said Black Lives Matter does not spread.
		Protests were not spreading COVID, but then right-wing protests were.
		And now you have many on the left who are just like, protests don't spread it, but then just believe that the right-wing ones do.
		And it's elevated beyond that right now.
		So one of the things we were bringing up earlier is CDC guidance.
		We were talking about pregnant women.
		And I was like, the guidance says that you can get it if you're pregnant, and then you mentioned, I guess, what happened?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that in April, they released guidance on a Friday saying that pregnant women should get the vaccine, and then they walked it back on the Monday and said pregnant women could get the vaccine.
		But that's a big change, right?
		So all the women that got it Saturday and Sunday who were pregnant are like, what?
		What did I just do?
		Should and could are a giant difference.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Very different.
		Now they say that they recommend it, but that women who may be pregnant, want to be pregnant, or are pregnant need to talk to their doctors.
		Because obviously there's very specific and different things that could affect a person, and everyone's got different health.
		And I think that applies to everybody, to be honest.
		The problem is, it's what I was stating earlier when it comes to these masks, when it comes to the lockdown policies, all this stuff.
		If you have the CDC like Fauci flip-flopping like he was, What happens when a journalist writes a story and it's based on the information from Friday and not Monday?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, yeah, the story from Friday stays up.
		It's not like they take it down.
		Right.
		It's but yeah, the thing the things making no sense is, I think, directly responsible for people not getting vaccinated.
		I have an acquaintance.
		A mom of three, she has teenage kids.
		You know, I think she'd be kind of a typical person who would go get vaccinated.
		She's like, no, because in spring 2020, when everything stopped making sense, I stopped trusting everything that they were saying.
		And so I don't want to get vaccinated and I don't want my kids to get vaccinated and I'm not doing that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When Kamala Harris and I think even Joe Biden, I'm not sure, Kamala and a bunch of other people came out and they were disparaging the idea of these vaccines.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know, as much as these Twitterati lunatics don't want to accept it, a lot of people saw them say that and said, makes sense to me.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then see a complete 180 and they're probably going, uh, what?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But it was like as if Trump was like in the backyard of the White House, like mixing up.
		You know, the vaccines by himself, like, oh, no, we're going to need to see like evidence.
unidentified		Like, no shit. You're going to need to see evidence. You know, this is such an example
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		of why you should, in my opinion, you shouldn't politicize medical, you know, emergencies and,
		and especially why that you shouldn't centralize a response to a medical emergency.
		Like, putting all power in one guy's hands doesn't make sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But no one did it on purpose.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Fauci thing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Fauci thing was like... I shouldn't say they don't own it on purpose.
		It was that the media wanted their anti-Trump narrative or whatever.
		So they were like, Fauci's the guy.
		We'll champion this guy.
		And then, inadvertently, the TV doctor became the end-all be-all, I suppose.
		And now, and now, you know, the crazy thing is, the CDC has changed its opinions numerous times.
		Now, what they say is, well, Fauci said, well, it's science.
		Well, science... Okay, okay, here's the problem.
		You mentioned this.
		The story from Friday stays up.
		It doesn't go away.
		So one day I'm reading Facebook, this is hypothetical, and I scroll across a story and it's from like a day or two ago.
		And they say, Dr. Fauci says, you gotta wear two masks because of the droplets.
		And then, so I read it and I'm like, oh, okay.
		And then some other person reads the story from the next day.
		Fauci says, no, no, there's no reason to wear two masks.
		This actually happened.
		Fauci was on a show and I think it was like MSNBC or maybe CNN and they asked like, isn't it common sense to wear two masks?
		And he's like, yeah, I guess, you know?
		Then the media runs with it.
		But the next day, a more conservative person sees the story saying, no, no, Fauci says, don't wear it.
		They then see someone in the wild wearing two masks, and they say, like, why are you wearing two masks?
		Well, Fauci said we should.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, he didn't.
		He said we shouldn't.
		Like, what are you talking about?
		I just read the news yesterday.
		He said we should.
		Dude, the story came out this morning.
		He said, no, you're crazy.
		I read it in the New York Times.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But he's also a uniquely bad communicator.
		He's so terrible at this role, and so is the CDC head, Rochelle Walensky.
		They're both horrible at conveying a message and sticking to that message.
		They change their mind all the time.
		I've written about it again and again, where they say one thing one day
		and another thing another day.
		And sometimes it is because it's politicized.
		Sometimes it's because they sat down with the teacher's union
		and had to rewrite the whole messaging on schools.
		But sometimes it's just, they don't know what they're talking about.
		I saw Fauci, that right after the CDC released guidance that vaccinated people don't have to wear masks
		and also unvaccinated people didn't have to wear masks outside.
		Savannah Guthrie was like, but what about my kid?
		My kid has to wear a mask outside.
		And Fauci was like, yeah, your kid has to wear a mask outside.
		But there was nothing in the CDC guidance that said that.
		He literally like read it to her.
		And I was like, but he's saying you don't have to wear it.
		And they both disagreed that the kid had to wear it.
		And that was it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I noticed about Fauci last year is that he just repeats what the media says.
		I think he doesn't actually know.
		And a lot of the guidance, it's this cyclical effect that eventually spirals out of control and just bursts.
		He'd say something like, you know, he had that story where that famous interviewer says, you don't need to be walking around with a mask because you might stop a truck.
		And then he changes his tune later, but his tune changes like a day after the news reports something.
		So the news, it's like a study says X, Y, and Z, and then all of a sudden he'd come out and say it.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But that's also the media, sorry, the media never asks him what changed.
		He's always like the science changed, but okay, what was it?
		What was the study that changed your mind?
		Where, like, if COVID was too small to be contained by the mask, when you said that, did COVID grow?
		Did the masks improve?
		Actually, the masks got worse.
		We started wearing t-shirts over our faces.
unidentified		Right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, if we had a competent media, we would get normal answers.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But what we have now is just not that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the Twitter video?
		Finally came out the mashup of Fauci.
		You don't need a mask.
		Oh, you need two masks.
		Your children do not need to wear masks.
		You definitely got to put a mask on your child.
		Like crazy.
		It's like a minute long of just contradiction, contradiction, contradiction.
		He's the guy.
		Right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		This is who we're relying on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Joe Rogans had to listen to Fauci, and I was like, Joe, no.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, listen to him, but you don't have to believe and do everything he says.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think Aristotle said it's a brilliant man, a sign of a brilliant man is someone that can entertain a thought without believing it.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good one.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Talk to your dad.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Talk to many doctors.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the issue.
		Fauci has said so many contradictory things.
		I know a lot of people, they email me and they're like, Tim, doctors don't know more than most people or whatever.
		And I'm like, dude, then get a better doctor.
		Like, find the smart one.
		Okay?
		Like, I'm not the smartest person in the world.
		I was, you know, like, uh, there's one of the ingredients in the vaccine, pro- uh, what is it?
		Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro- Pro Because I didn't go to school and, you know, there are certain medications that have certain adverse effects.
		You should look them up and you should talk to somebody.
		And if you've got a dumb doctor, look, you can get a dumb plumber.
		I've hired bad carpenters.
		And I'm like, how are these people actually carpenters?
		You know?
		So it's like, that's the main issue that we're all dealing with.
		I was thinking about this earlier.
		It's obviously information overload.
		Because that thing we talked about with the CDC changing its and updating its guidelines is everything.
		Literally everything.
		So there is Ryan Long, you know Ryan Long the comedian?
		He did a really great bit about this where he was like, you know, you can find an article for literally anything claiming something is racist and he shows like articles that will claim something is or isn't racist at the same time, like back and forth.
		Because there's an article for literally everything.
		So what happens when someone says something like, I know that X equals one, and they Google it and they find 5,000 articles saying X equals one.
		And they're like, look at all this.
		Then the other guy across the table says it's X equals two and then pulls up 5,000 articles.
		So we're just being driven insane.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And it shows.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how we escaped.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I just looked up whale hunting racist.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, there are obviously it's racist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we got a bunch of Republicans.
		This is, this is interesting to me.
		Here's a story from the Hill.
		House GOP stages mask mandate protest.
		Nearly 40 maskless House Republican lawmakers walked across the Capitol and onto the Senate floor to protest of the Capitol physician's decision to reinstate a mask mandate in the lower chamber, but not in the upper chamber.
		How does that make sense?
		Republicans complained the policy backed by Pelosi and other Democrats is inconsistent, infringes on personal liberty, and is based on politics, not science.
		However, the body of the 100-member Senate is less than a quarter of the size of the 435-member House, and all but a handful of Senators are vaccinated, while dozens of House Republicans have refused to say whether they got the vaccine.
		Okay.
		I heard Bill de Blasio.
		He said, either you get the vaccine, or you get a negative COVID test.
		Okay, but people who are vaccinated can still transmit COVID.
		So what's the purpose for having non-vaccinated people get tested?
		It certainly could not be to prevent sick people from coming to work.
		Because the interesting thing about this is that if you are not vaccinated, you're likely to have a more severe reaction, they say.
		You're more likely to be hospitalized.
		Okay, stands to reason you are more likely to actually show symptoms.
		In which case, you know you're sick, you'll stay home.
		The vaccinated people are less likely to be symptomatic, or to go to hospitals, or to die.
		It's a good reason to get the vaccine, to be honest, but again, talk to your doctor.
		And anyway, the point is, why then are they not requiring tests for the vaccinated?
		We can tell better if unvaccinated people are sick, not vaccinated people.
		So this policy of having people get vaccinated and then claiming that's the reason why, you know, some people don't have to wear masks makes literally no sense.
		You can still transmit with or without.
		That's actually the argument for why they want the masks, in which case the Senate should have to wear masks too.
		And negative tests are meaningless.
		Nothing makes sense.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		None of it makes sense, no.
		But also, the whole thing with testing, like, what if you caught COVID on the way over to work?
		Like, it wouldn't even show up in the test yet, right?
		You'd get a negative test, you'd be all, I don't have COVID, you'd walk around, you'd breathe on everybody and then, you know.
		What would be the point of it?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Does the test test for antibody response?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No, I think that's a blood test.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the specific antibody test.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the general PCR tests are like the swab, right?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they put it in and the PCR thing multiplies the genetic material and that makes it easier for them to spot specific things.
		I don't, there's been no logical reason.
		I mean, look, I've had a lot of conversations with people about all of this stuff and I'm like, dude, I want to believe that we're all going to come together and we're going to change the world and save everything.
		And you know, uh, we all, we all pitch in 15 days, slow spread and all this stuff.
		You just got to tell me what to do and why we're doing it.
		That's all I'm asking.
		And they're like, you got to wear a mask.
		I was like, okay, why?
		And they're like, I mean, Slow the spread.
		And I was like, sure.
unidentified		How?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I heard them say we don't have to wear masks anymore.
		Like, vaccinated.
		Well, now vaccinated people need to wear masks.
		And like you said, what changed?
		Alright, what?
		And I had one guy say to me, dude, the science says that we have to do, you know, everybody who can get vaccinated should.
		And I was like, okay.
		What science?
		And then he's just like, huh?
		I'm like, dude, I'm not gonna sit here and have someone for political reasons tell me to take medication.
		I just, I need, I'm begging you.
		I am begging the media and the Democrats to just answer the questions.
		And I know there's probably a lot of good answers out there.
		And this is what brings me to the ultimate problem.
		I'm sure right now there's a Democrat out there, a lefty who hates me and thinks my show is bad, saying, like, the answer's all right here.
		You don't even got to think about it.
		The CDC just says it.
unidentified		And I'm like, bro, the CDC said something yesterday and changed it tomorrow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fauci, they just revised their mask guidelines, proving they were actually wrong about masks in the first place.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm confused, man.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And the mask didn't slow the spread.
		How about that?
		Like, how about we never talk about the fact that the places that masked really heavily still had the highest concentration of deaths and tons of cases, and it turns out that COVID is a seasonal virus, and there's very little we can do about it, and we have to just move on.
		What if we just moved on?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a vaccine.
		There's several.
		There's a new one coming out soon.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People have a choice to get it, and if they do, they're safe.
		So what's the issue?
		No, like serious question.
		I'm not trying to be a dick.
		I'm just like genuinely asking.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, the issue is the vaccines were rushed out.
		You know, they're still experimental.
		That's a big part of the issue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think...
		They're approved for emergency use, I suppose.
		My understanding is I read a lot of stories.
		They've been through clinical trials.
		I think it was fast.
		It was Operation Warp Speed.
		That's true.
		But I think, you know, there's two reasons we're seeing a lot of the VAERS adverse reactions.
		One is that we just did like 360 or whatever, 336 million doses.
		So you're going to see a much higher... Not everybody gets the flu shot, you know what I mean?
		So you have a huge pool of individuals.
		You're going to see those percentages.
		And they've never said that wasn't the case.
		They've always said there's adverse reactions.
		But I think the other issue is that when, so Stakehams, we mentioned Stakehams, right?
		Stakehams posted about the vaccine and trusting the experts and like how we have to learn our limitations and talk to our doctors.
		And I was like, Stakehams, love you bro.
		But when I said Talk to your doctor?
		I got attacked for it.
		I had people calling me an anti-vaxxer and saying it's a waste of time.
		The doctor will say get it.
		You're making people scared and I'm like... I think one of the reasons we have so many VAERS reports is because there are people who don't go to their doctors.
		And just show up to one of these, like, outside of 7-Eleven and sit down and, hey, give me the vaccine.
		And if they went to their doctor, the doctor could have said, like, oh, I noticed your history as an ex.
		Like, maybe you should consider waiting just a little bit.
		Maybe they still would have recommended it.
		And there are some people that probably wouldn't have been recommended it.
		And then we can reduce the adverse reaction and reduce the hesitancy for people who might be scared because they're seeing a bunch of the stuff in the news.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, on the flip side of that, I think if the doctors had the vaccines at this point, I think more people would get them from their doctor, not from outside of 7-Eleven.
		I think for a lot of people, it's like, I don't want to go to Yankee Stadium and get a shot.
		I want to get it from my doctor.
		And until my doctor has it, I don't feel like this is a real thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a really good point.
		There was a story on Hannity.
		So Hannity comes out and he's like, everybody, I take the vaccine science very seriously, you know, you should consider it or whatever.
		There were a lot of Trump supporters who were posting things saying like, you know, F Hannity, you know, whatever.
		And I'm like, Trump?
		Trump supported this?
		Like, Trump wasn't favorite.
		But it's a really good point.
		This guy calls Hannity to talk about what happened with his doctor and Media Matters ends up writing about it negatively.
		And then a bunch of people on the left start saying, you know, oh, Hannity's reversal was short-lived.
		There was no reversal.
		The Republicans have always supported the vaccine.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		DeSantis has always been going around doing this.
		But here's what happened in that story.
		The guy said, I'm a cancer survivor.
		The CDC actually says on their website, talk to your doctor before getting these vaccines if you're a cancer survivor.
		And so he went to his doctor and he said he was, you know, the doctor says, look, you're immunocompromised.
		I would recommend getting this vaccine because you want to protect yourself.
		You know, you're immunocompromised.
		And the man said, I then asked my doctor if he would prescribe it for that reason and administer it.
		And his doctor said no.
		Why?
		I don't know.
		And I was like, well, online they say you don't need a prescription for it, but you know what?
		I've gotten prescriptions for ibuprofen.
		I've gone to the doctor and they're like, I'm prescribing ibuprofen, go pick it up.
		And so this guy said, until my doctor will prescribe it to me as something I need because I'm a cancer survivor, and until he will administer it, I don't want to take the risk because I'm worried about the underlying health conditions I have.
		And I'm like, He's scared.
		This is a guy who's legitimately worried about his health, and people are yelling at him.
		He's an anti-vaxxer.
		They're insulting him.
		I'm like, dude, that's got to be a scary position to be in.
		The CDC says, warning for cancer survivors.
		Talk to your doctor.
		Your doctor says, I'm not going to prescribe it or administer it.
		Not even administer it?
		Doc, can't you?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'd be like, dude, I'm worried.
		Because I don't know who this guy is.
		You're telling me to go to someone else to get it, but you won't do it?
		I'd be scared too.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And every politician who wants restaurants or bars to ask people their vaccine status when that guy comes to the door and he's like, well, I don't have I didn't get the vaccine because he has to explain it to a bouncer who has to then make the call whether or not he's telling the truth and whether or not to let him in.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Like we want that to be happening all over the country where people have to explain their medical history to like the guy at the door.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, your medical history is private.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I saw a Facebook post.
		This guy, he's like a studio recorder, musician, whatever.
		And he was like, this should be obvious to everybody, but I will not work with anybody who is not vaccinated.
		And all the comments were people cheering, saying, I won't service businesses that don't have vaccine passports anymore.
		The mandatory vaccine thing is really taking off.
		And I responded just with, I was like, what if, you know, even people who have medical conditions that are like advised against or have risk factors where they're concerned about getting it?
		And he was like, well, I mean, obviously not in that circumstance, but he says, I don't think it would be a good idea to put him in a recording booth for eight hours.
		And I'm like, All right, you know, maybe that's a good idea.
		I mean, honestly, someone's having an underlying health condition that, you know, can cause them health effects.
		Take that stuff seriously.
		But what was worrying to me about that post was the zealotry.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they talk about vaccine hesitancy.
		And I think regular people are hesitant for medications for a lot of reasons.
		You see the opioid crisis.
		What were they saying in the 90s?
		It wasn't that addictive or something.
		So people are worried and they want to get a trusted health professional to be like, here's my recommendation for you.
		And so now you have the opposite of that.
		You have vaccine zealotry, where people are just like, shut up and get it, don't talk to your doctor.
		And I'm like, that's crazy, no talk to your doctor.
		But people are actually saying that.
		So when I tweeted, stop listening to celebrities, call your medical professional, I got a bunch of people on the left quote tweeting me saying, you're scaring people for no reason.
		And actually people say, so what?
		They're gonna say, go get it.
		And I'm like, then what's the problem?
		Why are you mad that I'm telling people to seek proper medical advice?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That creeps me out. I think you're right on. Okay. If, if for instance, they were like 1%
		of the people in this age range have an adverse reaction, that doesn't mean that you have a,
		if you're in that age range, have a 1% chance. It means that of all those people, 1% of them
		had adverse reaction, but those people might've had a specific issue. That isn't, it's not random.
		It's not, it's not randomly affecting, like, there's specific reasons why people have reactions.
		So you have to go to a doctor and examine yourself before you start injecting yourself.
		I mean, it's, you don't have to, but you really, really should.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't like, I don't like taking, I think acetaminophen, is that it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I hear it's very bad for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Regular painkiller?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have bad reactions to it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't it break your blood-brain barrier?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like over-the-counter.
		Ibuprofen?
		Totally fine.
		I get a headache or whatever, I take ibuprofen, I feel great.
		Acetaminophen?
		No.
		I took it one time, it gave me a really bad adverse reaction, like headache, migraine, and I'm like, I don't want to take this stuff anymore.
		Now imagine if everybody said, it's over-the-counter, it's safe, everyone, you should just take it.
		I'd be like, dude!
		Talk to your doctor.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They used to sell cocaine over the counter.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Those were the days, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't they say asbestos was safe or something?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They sure did.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think heroin, wasn't it?
unidentified		Didn't bears sell heroin?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They still sell cigarettes.
		Didn't they sell alcohol?
		They used to have those ads where it was like 9 out of 10 doctors saying that smooth mountain cigarettes are right for you.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Somebody just posted an ad from the Olympics like the chosen cigarettes of Olympians.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh, really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Things were crazy back in the day, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was watching old sports and old Olympics videos and the skill level was so dramatically lower and they really didn't care about their clothing and the food they ate.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Bayer used to sell heroin to children.
		Have you ever seen that?
		Look at Bayer heroin image.
		It's an image of the old bottle.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Over-the-counter, baby.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now they just call it, you know, they call it like oxycodone or Percocet or whatever.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Basically the same thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what's the difference.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's this new stuff that's freaking me out that George Floyd had, and it's just fentanyl.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Fentanyl, oh, China.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Good Lord.
		They're not prescribing that stuff, are they?
		Is that medical?
unidentified		I don't think so.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Are they prescribing it?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I believe they are.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes they prescribe fentanyl.
unidentified		Really?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I believe that it's relatively rare, but it's a pain controller, and yes, 100% people do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was watching Stargate SG1, and in one of the episodes, this is from, you know, 2000 or whatever, she's like, I need 100 micrograms of fentanyl or whatever, and I'm like, oh, I guess doctors have that stuff, you know what I mean?
		I want to pull up the story, though, because we're talking about Republicans.
		We got this reporting from Michael Tracy over at his mtracy substack.
		He says, media promotes fake vaccine hesitancy narrative to justify coercion and scolding.
		This is an excellent bit of reporting because Michael Tracey basically went through the Republicans, what their statements have been on vaccines, and he is outright, definitively proving the media is lying.
		You know what's insane to me?
		How is it there are so many left personalities and Democrats who genuinely believe conservatives opposed to vaccines?
		I'm really confused.
		He's got Donald Trump.
		He says this one produces an overload of cognitive dissonance, both among hardcore Trump supporters and detractors.
		The simple fact is that Trump presided over and spearheaded Operation Warp Speed, the federal government's initiative to publicly fund the production and manufacture of a vaccine on an expedited timescale far beyond anything ever before attempted in history.
		Whether or not Trump should receive credit for doing this is an ancillary pundit-style consideration.
		It's just the factual reality.
		Of course, throughout 2020, Trump was pilloried by self-appointed fact-checkers, the most exalted guardians of the facts, for his assurances that a vaccine would be available on an expedited schedule.
		But then that's exactly what happened.
		Put another way.
		If there's any single individual who's most directly responsible for the historically unprecedented mass provision of vaccines, perhaps other than the scientists who actually created them, that individual would have to be Donald Trump.
		This isn't something that's often acknowledged by most of the hardcore online factions of Trump supporters, who tend to lean vaccine skeptical, nor is it acknowledged by Trump's opponents, who shudder at the mere thought of assigning him credit for anything.
		But it's also just true.
		I think, didn't Biden say the vaccine was created under the Republican administration and he praised McConnell for promoting the vaccine?
		Maybe, you know what's really funny?
		Democrats are sitting there and like, why won't people get the vaccines?
		And they're like, maybe we should just like, let them know that Donald Trump's the one who did it and give credit to the Republicans.
		Really?
		And then Biden's like, oh, actually, I mean, the credit goes to them.
		Here's what he says.
		He goes on Trump himself seems cognizant of this at every opportunity. He trumpets
		Operation Warp Speed as one of his administration's signature accomplishments and understandably so.
		So Tracy notes that Trump urges all Americans to get COVID vaccine.
		It's a safe vaccine and it works.
		The former president and first lady Melania Trump received their vaccines privately in January at the White House.
		Mike Pence, pro-vaccine the whole time.
		Ron DeSantis, he said, here's another odd one.
		When the vaccines first became available, DeSantis immediately declared, quote, we are working to get as much vaccine for our citizens as possible, and implemented a distribution plan that prioritized elderly Florida residents, which resulted in a bizarre round of media pushback, as though prioritizing the elderly for vaccine distribution was some sinister plot.
		DeSantis also personally received the vaccine and publicized this fact when his age group first became eligible.
		Like all other Republican governors, he's been in charge of administering and promoting his state's vaccination program from the outset.
		And one of the reasons they lifted the lockdowns was they're like, we're good.
		Vaccines!
		Roll them out!
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I was living in Florida when the vaccines were rolled out.
		I got my vaccine in Florida.
		DeSantis was all over the place touting vaccines.
		The idea that he was against vaccines is comical.
		It's like he both got the vaccines too quickly to his people and he also didn't want them to take it.
		How could it be both?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the weirdest thing.
		I'll just show the other names.
		We've got Greg Abbott, always in favor, Kristi Noem, Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Kevin McCarthy, Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley.
		They have all been pushing this, yet somehow the narrative is all of a sudden Republicans are coming around.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is insane.
		You even had the, what was it?
		It was Kate Ivey, where she was like, the spread is the fault of the unvaccinated.
		I'm like, literally everybody like in politics is pro vaccine.
		Yeah.
		The media, for some reason, created this narrative.
		Why?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think because they want to blame somebody and they can't blame their own factions who aren't taking the vaccine.
		I mean, black and Hispanic Americans are among the lowest percentages of vaccinated Americans.
		And so they can't criticize them.
		And so they find the Trump, you know, the Trump lovers and blame it on them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's fascinating to me is that you now have the two most popular conservative or right-wing candidates, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, in the CPAC poll.
		Trump dominates.
		They took Trump out.
		Ron DeSantis dominates.
		Trump is begging for the credit on the vaccine.
		He's like sending out these emails.
		I get him and he's like, I did all this and like our administration and the Democrats won't admit it.
		And Rhonda Sanders himself led the charge.
		And the media is trying to claim conservatives are anti-vax.
		You know what the issue is?
		There was one study I saw.
		Well, briefly.
		A lot of people noted this.
		Or were sharing the study.
		It found that vaccine-hesitant individuals, that they called anti-vaxxers, were more knowledgeable about the data, the science, and what was currently going on.
		I think the simple answer is that when people do the research, When they take a look at their medical histories and then go talk to their doctors, they tend to make private and personal medical decisions for the betterment of their lives, and it's not the result, often, that the Democrats want to see happen.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they could also solve the does Donald Trump want people to take the vaccine by having any number of reporters who still speak to him on a semi-regular basis ask him, do you want people to take the vaccine?
		I think that would just, you know, get to the bottom of it pretty quickly.
		But they don't want to hear the answer to that because they know he's going to say yes.
		They know he's going to say, yeah, of course, I want you to take the Trump vaccine, the greatest vaccine that's ever been produced.
		I did the vaccine in the backyard.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump is, I don't know, for those that are listening, if you saw the Freedom Tunes clip we just put out where it's Fauci and Trump are in Mount Doom in the Wuhan wet market and Fauci's like, cast it into the fire.
		But then Trump is basically at a hearing saying, I am the greatest president who has ever lived.
		Even Fauci agrees.
		In fact, he's like, no, I don't.
		But that's, you know, the reason that joke works is because Donald Trump, if they gave him a press conference, if they wanted, give the man a press conference.
		Bring him out to the front of the Rose Garden one more time like, come on in Trump, here's the microphone, what do you got to say?
		He's like, it was me, it was all me, I did all the work, everybody should be supporting this.
		I mean, it's true.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is he saying everyone should get the vaccine?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I just read his quote.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's dangerous rhetoric.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I agree.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And also for him to say that it's the most effective vaccine or is is unknown yet.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But it's Trumpy, you know, like Trump would just be like, this is the best vaccine ever because I was involved in making it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is he responsible for this becoming politicized in the first place?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Trump?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I wouldn't call him responsible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'd say the media is responsible.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He should have come out and been like, I have accrued a huge group of doctors to look at this and they're all going to take over.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I have a giant panel of 60 doctors from around the world that are going to control this from here on out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are a lot of things Trump could have done that he didn't do.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Instead, he's like, I'm going to do it.
		It's my, put my name on that thing.
		It's like Obamacare, man.
		You ruin healthcare by politicizing it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who was it who came out and said they should call it the Trump vaccine?
		Was that Geraldo or?
		I don't know if it was heralded.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No, it was somebody.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		It was a really good idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, call it the Trump vaccine.
		But but I'm like, why the Democrats wouldn't take it?
		We'd have the same problem.
		Yeah.
		Yes.
		Yes.
		So the Fox News story on March 16th, Trump urges all Americans to get COVID vaccine.
		It's a safe vaccine and it works.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's no no evidence for that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We're still finding out as we go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the issue I have.
		And like, I am always criticizing the media.
		Like that is that is the main issue.
		When you have 336 million doses or whatever, because we're doing a massive rollout across the country, then you're going to end up with a disproportionate amount of news stories about adverse reactions.
		I take those stories seriously, and I want to make sure that I will never give someone advice.
		And then the last thing I want is for someone to show up with a crutch being like, you said do this.
		That's why I'm like, you got to make these decisions for yourself.
		And that's why it's dangerous to just like make these demands.
		But I do think one of the reasons we have so many reports in the various system the vaccine adverse event reporting system is simply the number of vaccines that have been administered.
		I think you know it's it's it's in the media it's talked about a whole lot so people are more cognizant of what's going on and.
		Everybody's going to get it.
		Plus, like I said before, some people aren't talking to their doctors.
		So that may be a good portion of the adverse events.
		But it's just a personal decision you gotta make for yourself.
		And, you know, outside of all that, I do think there's a problem with There was a Wall Street Journal op-ed, I can't tell you about.
		We can talk about it in the bonus segment, but YouTube's got specific rules, that was questioning the FDA and their decisions, and so I'll just put it that way, that there are mainstream news articles saying we aren't doing right by people based on, you know, how to respond to this pandemic, which is...
		We'll have to save it because we'll get banned if I get into it.
		No joke, it's a Wall Street Journal article.
		But yeah, YouTube's rules are so bonkers that simply citing it is a ban-worthy offense.
		That's the state of this country.
		And I think that's a really good reason as to why information overload.
		Everything's mixed up and broken and we can't figure out what's going on.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Hard to trust.
		Really hard to trust right now.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I keep saying that this is the worst PR campaign they ever ran.
		Like, how are you supposed to convince people to take any kind of universal medicine if you keep going back and forth at every level, every single person?
		Rochelle Walensky, Dr. Fauci.
		These are the people that we look up to.
		Rochelle Walensky said earlier, I think it was today, she was talking about the kids who have died of COVID.
		She literally said things that are factually provable with the CDC's data, untrue.
		Completely untrue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what she said?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		She was talking about how it's like more dangerous than the flu for kids and people pull up the data from the CDC and we're like, this is clearly not true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		I don't know about all of that.
		I do know that when Crowder said, cite the CDC data, he got banned from YouTube for it.
		Or he got a suspension on YouTube for bringing it up.
		So, I don't know, I'll just say, you know, whatever Walensky says, whatever Fauci says, it's true, it's a fact.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's all true, it's all true.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Even if they say something different tomorrow.
unidentified		Yeah, that's true too.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's the new fact.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, that was a really good point brought up in, where was this point brought up?
		I'm forgetting.
		For him.
		Oh, yeah, it was it was a was it Peter do see or Steve which ones which ones the younger one Peter?
		Yeah, he asked Jen Psaki about the censorship and he said there's a video from March of Fauci saying not to wear a
		mask That's still up and you know, you know people see that he's
		like aren't you concerned that you might get something removed?
		It later turns out to be true Yeah, yeah, she's not concerned
		No It's the best example.
		I think this last year is the best example of the problem with censorship.
		And centralized control of communications doesn't work.
		Because, that's right, Fauci has been wrong on numerous occasions.
		And his response is, but it's the science.
		Okay.
		I can respect that.
		The science changed.
		The problem is, you banned people for what is now the right response.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, you later come back and say, oh, those people were right the whole time.
		Then why'd you ban them?
		That's where we're currently at.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, you're right that this year was a big test case for censorship, but I don't see people being outraged about it.
		I feel like just Americans have been so muted about this kind of thing.
		It's really disappointing.
		It should be across the board outrage.
		It shouldn't just be people on the right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how we're gonna solve whatever is going on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You gotta build new tech.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If the media is just shattered.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's why we're working on the Fediverse and expanding Fediverse projects because I don't think you can legislate a solution to tech oligarchs censoring the world.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So we're trying to build a decentralized network that's uncensorable essentially.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Ian, I don't think that improving the technology is gonna make people want to be more honest.
		Like, the problem that we're looking at is kind of like a human problem.
		This is a question I have about a lot of AIs.
		Who programs the AI that determines what goes on?
		If it's humans, you're gonna literally have the exact same problem you have with humans, But it'll be AI, so it'll be different, special.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at the self-driving car problem, right?
		So we're trying to program cars to drive themselves, but there are some really serious questions that we can't answer.
		Like, if you're driving in a car, and the car is driving itself, and an old lady walks in front of you, does the car decide to hit the old lady to protect the driver, or swerve out of the way to save the old lady and risk the driver?
		Someone has to tell the car what to do.
		Or I guess the funny thing is we'll be like, we'll give it an AI, an artificial intelligence that'll figure it out on its own, and the car decides to hit everybody.
unidentified		It's like, eh, whatever, get him out of the road.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nah, so somebody's gotta program those parameters, you know?
		Maybe there should be like three rules, like never harm a human, and the second rule should be like always follow the instructions of a human, and the third rule is unless it contradicts the first rule or whatever.
		What are the three rules?
		I'm forgetting them.
unidentified		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it Skynet?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, what are you talking about?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I was like, isn't it like Asimov's writings?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Don't become sentient.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's one of the rules.
unidentified		Don't become sentient.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No thinking.
		Don't destroy us.
		I like that meme that's like, the cop and he's like, I think you've had a bit too much to think.
		And he's like, you know, wagging his finger at you, and it's just thought police or whatever.
		So here's what's happened, right?
		So I wake up in the morning, and I see these stories, and they're like, D.C.' 's locking down, and Nevada's locking down, and I'm like, I have no idea what's going on.
		I have no idea what the rationale is.
		I have no idea what the data is.
		There's no science anymore.
		There's contradictory studies across the board saying one thing, saying something else, that people are accusing one study of being political, and the other study being political, and I'm just sitting here like, I wonder what the chickens are up to.
		I can't talk about it.
		I can't opine on it.
		I'm just like, everybody's gone nuts.
		The machine's broken.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's a political madness.
		This is why I err on the side of becoming an artist, a famous artist.
		You look at rock stars and how well-loved they are, like Dave Grohl.
		If we had that kind of cultural sway, I mean, so much more effective than complaining about it.
		Even trying to fix it politically.
		You can't, you can't politically fix this thing.
		It needs a technological solution.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't they do a concert?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't they do a concert where you had to get the vaccine to come in and then one of the members of the band who's vaccinated got COVID?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Somebody involved with the organization.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They didn't say who.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Probably in the band.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I see stories like that and I'm like, I don't know what this means, right?
		If you're vaccinated and you're putting on events for only vaccinated people, why are you shutting down?
		Because one person was sick.
		I thought that's what they said was going to happen.
		I don't think, I gotta be honest, I don't think anybody knows.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a lot of people who want to think it's a grand conspiracy because we talk about the Great Reset quite a bit and I'm like, I don't know, I think they're juggling, you know, it's a bunch of people all juggling and no one has any idea of who's doing what or why.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I think incompetence is usually the best explanation.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I think we really have a bunch of incompetent people who have no idea what's happening and don't want to, you know, give up this moment of power for themselves and don't want this to end.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Fauci is very famous right now.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		More than he's ever been in his life.
		On TV all the time.
		Yeah.
		When's that going to happen again?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is his big run.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's been on TV before.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, he has.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		He's been on TV quite a bit.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'd never heard of him until last month.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Not like this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're young-ish.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's like 80-ish.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like in the 80s?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so he's been around for quite a long time.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Tony, you look good for an 80-year-old.
unidentified		Yeah, that's great, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He gets paid, you know, more than the president.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's the highest paid federal employee.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's so messed up.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Not elected.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, I think when it comes to what's going on with COVID, there's a lot we'll talk about.
		We'll save it for the members portion because we can get into some harder numbers and we'll pull up this Wall Street Journal story, which I can't talk about on YouTube.
		No joke.
		But I can talk about something that I think is a ticking time bomb.
		And I'd love to get your thoughts on this, Carol.
		This is the nationwide eviction ban is going to expire this Saturday after Biden administration loses fight with the Supreme Court.
		So there it is.
		We were talking about this the other day.
		There's millions of people that are ready to be evicted.
		Someone super chatted us saying that they work at a bank and the bank is like lining up evictions.
		And we were like, is there going to be an intervention to stop the evictions?
		Because if there isn't, we're going to have August of panic where people are like, I got 30 days.
		And then September 1st of 10 million people standing in the street saying, I don't live anywhere.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So there are already interventions.
		In New York, for example, the New York State government is partnering with an organization to pay the landlords.
		And that's going to be amazing because we have, you know, we just print more money.
		It's going to just go great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because New York's got all the money in the world!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They weren't in a budget crisis before all this.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Um, so that's what's happening in New York and I think that's going to happen in other states also.
		Um, but really also begs the question why, why, like we didn't go this route before.
		Like if we're going to just pay all these people, like why didn't we start doing this earlier and, and be able to evict people and so they can move on to other homes and pay their rent there.
		I mean, if we're just going to be throwing money at people, like let's get started.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know what other countries are doing?
		When businesses were shut down, they would keep paying the employees.
		The government paid the employees to not go to work.
		But if they quit that business, they wouldn't get paid anymore.
		As opposed to incentivizing them to quit and not go back to work, which we've done in the United States.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the businesses were shut down.
		You know, so these restaurants would have $20,000 worth of food in their fridges, and then they closed for, even if it was 15 days, all that food spoils.
		They couldn't sell it, and now they're in the hole $20,000.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they're reopening some of them and they're like, okay guys, come back to work.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And the people are like, no, I'm getting paid to stay at home.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The most brutal story was when they reopened and then quickly shut down.
		So there was one story about a New York restaurant where they were like, all our food was spoiled.
		We got rid of it all.
		They said, we are reopening.
		So then we ordered another $20,000 worth of food to get everything back and ready to go.
		And then they announced there was a halt and they were going to shut back down or something.
		And all the food spoils again.
		And it is just beating.
		Small businesses over that over and over and over again.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is this like another transfer of wealth to now to landlords?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like they're sending government money to landlords?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The landlords are still in the hole.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are they going to pay the back rent?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are.
		So like the story today was one landlord was owed $28,000 and they sent him $24,000.
		But they're going to look into why they didn't send the other $4,000 and then resend it to him.
		So yeah, I don't understand how it's happening.
		I don't understand how there's anywhere near enough money for it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But Because then next month, there's going to be a bunch of people who didn't pay this month, and they're going to have to do it again, right?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like we really don't learn, so, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they realized, or maybe they did, maybe it's the Great Reset, that you can't just stop an economy.
		It's a freight train.
		Yeah, yeah.
		I think I used this analogy before.
		You ever see the movie Hancock with Will Smith?
		Part of it Jason Bateman's car stops in the tracks, and he can't get out and the trains coming
		So Hancock lands flips his car out of the way and then the train hits him
		And he doesn't move so the train just crumples and then every car flies up in the air
		Because that energy has got to go somewhere, and then they're all just like dropping and crashing. That's what happened
		So this idea that we can just be like okay starter back up You know turn the key and then the economy's gonna go it's
		not gonna happen Right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I write about small businesses a lot.
		I had a column this week about how a lot of the tech firms are already pushing back their coming back date.
		It was supposed to be September, which is already, you know, such a long time away even now.
		But they're already moving to October and Twitter said that they're not even opening their offices for a while.
		No, they're closed.
		Yeah, yeah.
		So there's a bunch of, you know, businesses that support those big businesses.
		You know, the bodega and the halal cart guy and the, you know, the shoe shiner and the dry cleaner and everybody on that street.
		And they're all paused waiting for normalcy to return.
		And these companies are like, I don't know, maybe we will, maybe we won't, you know, we'll see.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's really interesting.
		I think a lot of younger people, especially the Democrat voters, because they skew younger, or at least there's more younger people, they don't understand basic economics.
		Like, a city with no industry eventually dies out because no money is coming in.
		Supermarkets, small businesses don't survive because they're usually, you know, providing a service to an existing infrastructure.
		So what happens is exactly what you said.
		Twitter says we are closing our offices in New York.
		What's below the Twitter office?
		Probably a bodega and a restaurant.
		Who are their customers?
		Employees of Twitter.
		We're going to lunch.
		Now the office is closed.
		There's not even going to be another business that comes in to replace it.
		So now the local corner store has no one in the area.
		No one's at work.
		So they shut down.
		And it's going to ripple across the board.
		Then, they pay these landlords.
		They give people free money.
		They give people free money.
		They just keep giving free money.
		But you know what free money is?
		A ticket to extract resources without providing resources.
		That imbalance cannot be corrected.
		There's no key to just turn the engine on to fix that.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		To me, that sounds a little bit like they expect you to be able to travel back in time.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		And just like they thought it would be really simple to shut down the economy, it seems to me like they also think it's going to be really simple to just open it up again.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Just start it up again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they're doing these emergency things in New York, but are they doing it anywhere else?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		This was just announced today in New York, so I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Last minute save.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have to imagine that there's a lot of states that aren't going to get these bailouts.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we're going to see millions of people without homes.
		I wonder at what point people just start saying, I don't care what you say anymore.
		You know, I'm already seeing, because D.C.
		lockdown, tons of people tweeting.
		They don't care what they say.
		They're not going to abide by this stuff.
		And I'm like, at a certain point, people just say enough.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And I hope you're right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I just, I have seen nothing from my fellow Americans this year, especially for my fellow New Yorkers, to suggest that people are going to take any kind of stance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, New York.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, like a year ago, I thought for sure if schools didn't open in New York, if public schools didn't open in New York, but private schools did open in New York, I was like, oh, the parents are going to riot.
		Are you kidding?
		The private schools open, but the public schools don't?
		No, nobody said anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I feel like, uh, you know, we're out in the middle of nowhere.
		And part of me is like, it's like I was mentioning earlier.
		It's I'm sitting here thinking like, I wonder what the chickens are doing, you know, cause they don't, they don't, they don't care about this.
		That makes sense to me.
		They're going there, they're eating food.
		They lay eggs.
		I know what's going on.
		I look at the news.
		I have no idea.
		I'm wondering how many people are just going to continue to evacuate.
		These cities are going to keep leaving because we've heard about the exodus.
		I'm wondering why you're still in New York.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Well, we would have never left before the pandemic.
		I mean, I knew I lived in a super leftist place, but at least, like, it was a competent city.
		I mean, it was going so well that we elected Bill de Blasio twice.
		Like, that's how well things were going, that we just didn't care, like, who was mayor.
		But after this year, we lived in Florida for almost five months, and it was an oasis of sanity, and now we're definitely thinking about making it a permanent move.
		I mean, it's hard.
		You had your vision of your life.
		We were going to live in Brooklyn, raise our kids there, retire to Manhattan, and now it's like, oh, we're going to move to a different state entirely.
		It's tough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		West Virginia's pretty nice.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I need an ocean.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I need an ocean.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not too far away.
		It's like an hour.
		So, you know, Bill de Blasio said the voluntary phase is over.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So are you guys is that is that is that a factor?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not, you know, about the vaccines.
		Like I said, I'm vaccinated.
		My husband's vaccinated.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's like the political.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		It is crazy.
		I also just don't believe him.
		He's like he's the biggest goof.
		Like he's just.
		You know, what's crazy is he actually did a better job throughout the pandemic than Governor Cuomo, but Cuomo was like the hero of the pandemic.
		But de Blasio was actually, if you look at them side by side, I mean, they're both like terrible, but de Blasio did better.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		De Blasio was probably kicking himself for not murdering those 15,000 people like Cuomo did, right?
		Because that's something Cuomo got away with.
		Certainly that was a factor.
		I can't, I can't believe that.
		I'm, I'm, I'm just, I sit here every, every, every day I wake up and I'm like, Cuomo murdered 15,000 people.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And nobody cared.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was warned not to do it.
		He could have put him in the Javits Center or the Mercy Hospital vessel, and he said, no, I'm going to put him in nursing homes because he didn't want to give Trump the win.
		Dead.
		Well, now Bill de Blasio is giving people 100 bucks.
		NYC to pay Big Apple locals $100 for first COVID vaccine injection.
		What?
		This creeps people out.
		I'm sorry.
		All right.
		You know, like they did lotteries.
		There are some people you're not going to convince.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the $100 might get a lot of people, though.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		Yeah, I think people will motivate to go.
		Again, I think that the fact that they're still at like vaccination centers, not in your doctor's office, really does deter people.
		So if they're paying $100, I guess they'll go stand, you know, they'll go to get some random location and get their vaccination there.
		But it is creepy.
		It's very creepy that they need to be handing out $100 bills.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Are they paying people that already got vaccinated and in retrospect?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, but what if dirty?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if someone goes to one of these back centers and says like, oh, I never got it, but they did because they want a hundred bucks.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I think.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Is there a date?
		I mean, I don't even know.
		Is there a database?
		Like there's no database to check whether.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I assume there would be.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And in the future, this would be incentive to like say, no, I'm not going to get it and wait until they start bribing.
unidentified		Right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Who's going to get like the booster, for example, until they give me like a thousand dollars.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like you're flying a plane, and they're like, we are overbooked.
		We're volunteers.
		We're off.
		Like, will anyone volunteer?
		No one does.
		We're offering $100.
		No one does.
unidentified		$200.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		$300.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess they, you know, last time I flew, it was like they can go up to like $1,000.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, what I would do is when they would say, like, here's our offer, I would go up and be like, double it.
		I would be like, done.
		Here you go.
		And I'd be like, all right.
		And then I'd just be like, I'm going to sit here for a few hours.
		I'm good.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		You should also get the food voucher, right?
		And like a hotel voucher.
		You can get it all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, depending on how long you get delayed.
		You can also be like, I once was just like, can I get first class on the next flight?
		And they were like, yes, sir.
		And I was like, yes!
		They have to get you off that plane.
		So anyway, yes, people are going to be like, oh, they want boosters now.
		Let's wait it out and see how much we can get out of this guy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The less of us that go, the faster they'll start bribing us.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That might not work out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I wonder if the main problem is that there's just too many people.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Just in general?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's poorly organized.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you organize millions and millions and millions of people?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		On the internet?
		I was just thinking about this.
		If we did have some sort of debt revolution or something where people either refused to pay their debts or they defaulted on Federal Reserve interest or whatever.
		We would.
		That wouldn't be enough.
		A chaotic revolution would just be madness.
		We'd have to like create a new constitution, maybe using the Manila principles, factoring in the Internet, using cryptocurrency, building a new economy all at once.
		If there was a change, we'd have to have the structure in place like the Founding Fathers did.
		We're there.
		We're close to it.
		The Manila Principles are legit.
		Cryptocurrency is amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just think about how, like, a lot of our structures in terms of Congress and voting was built around a substantially smaller amount of people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and less technology, like sending, like, feather, writing things on with feathers and sending on horseback.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No IDs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Took two months to get messages to England and back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, right, you know, it always tripped me out is like I was watching Pirates of the Caribbean
		And it's like the opening scene in the first movie where Jack Sparrow's on the boat
		Is it sinking and he lands and then they're like, what's your name? And he's like, I'll pay you if you don't ask
		Why?
		Just tell him Bill Smith.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He does say Smith, though.
		But like just you can just walk and be like, hi, I'm I'm, you know, John Smith.
		Yeah, there you go.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Prove it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What are you gonna do about it?
		And he's like, oh, no, he's been branded or whatever.
		But yeah, that's that's that's that's one thing people need to understand is like I was talking about this earlier.
		The reason why you had to own land in order to vote was mostly because there were no IDs and your tie to the community was the fact that you lived there.
		And they didn't want people to show up who didn't live there, vote for things, and then leave.
		That was part of it.
		Obviously, there were still a lot of old patriarchal structures and things like that.
		But I think the changes that came about with universal suffrage made sense in that we're not buying land anymore.
		We live in New York.
		We rent it.
		Most people are renters, so they vote in that capacity.
		But things were so dramatically different back then.
		I wonder if we got to get back to people got to spread out, get out of these cities, learn some personal responsibility.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Yeah.
		I mean, the thing is that the cities were doing so great until they weren't.
		Right.
		So it's it's like it almost kind of shows that like the cities have have had their moment.
		But I don't know.
		I mean, you really want people moving out here like.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good point.
unidentified		Do you?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, Not too close.
		There's pros and there's cons.
		It's not about too close, it's about, like, there's lot sizes.
		It's like, so, you know, if they, like, there's few acres around where it's like, we have our space, we have more space than a city.
		What I want to live, you know, in Philadelphia, we had half an acre for the whole house.
		So the front yard was a third, the house was a third, the backyard was a third, and you couldn't do a whole lot.
		I mean, we could skate in the backyard, and we had a mini ramp, but we could only do it between certain hours because the neighbors would be like, too late, too early.
		Now we can go out at one in the morning and scream at the top of our lungs.
		And there are people who live not too far away.
		They don't care.
		Some days you'll be sitting there and you'll hear bangs.
		You'll hear gunshots.
		And you're just like, oh, hunting again.
		And you just turn your coffee like whatever.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in Brooklyn too.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, I think you're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I lived on the...
		Right off Myrtle and Nostrand.
		That's where that cops got assassinated.
		One of the reasons I didn't know what happened when it happened, so like I'm sitting in my bed, I get a text message, are you near the assassinations?
		And I'm like, what happened?
		It was like one of my bosses at Fusion.
		And then I look out the window and I see cops everywhere.
		It's because I'm sitting there all day and I hear gunshots all the time.
		And I'm just like sitting there, pow, pow, pow, and I'm like, do, do, do, like, you know, I'm just gonna, whatever, I don't know, this is, welcome to New York, you know what I mean?
		And New York's not even that bad.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Chicago, oof, way worse.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Much worse.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I thought LA was amazing before the pandemic.
		I was like, as we develop electric cars, we're going to get all these gas guzzlers off the road.
		LA is going to be a paradise.
		And then, But I knew in the back of my head the central electric grid and water grid were very, very tenuous because if some sort of cataclysm or disaster caused the water grid to break and the electric grid to break, those people would have started cannibalizing each other.
		It would have been terror on earth.
		And I think COVID gave us kind of an early warning sign of the danger of being packed together in cities with a centralized, you know, importing your water and your food and your electricity.
		We could like decentralize the water to each each house could have their own water pump you know electrical yeah and food grow your own food i mean it's pretty drastic change right but until then i don't see the value of living in a city
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think cities cause cultural decay.
		At least they do now.
		I think before there used to be hubs of culture, because you'd live outside the city, you'd have very little contact, then you'd go into the city and you'd see things, you'd talk to people, you'd learn things, and it was like, that's where the stuff was happening.
		You know, my favorite movie to cite in this regard is the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson, because it's a great movie.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But there's that scene where he's like, the kid's like, are we going to Charlestown?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, we're going to town!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like, yeah!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And now it's like, ugh, town.
		It smells like sour milk, there's traffic everywhere.
		I don't need to be there.
		It's hard to eat, it's hard to sit.
		Restaurants in New York, I don't, you know what, I think back to living there and I understood why I wanted to live there.
		When I first, I remember the first time I went to New York.
		It was during Occupy Wall Street.
		And I took a bus from Virginia.
		And I remember finally getting to New York City and I can't remember, I have no idea which bridge we were crossing.
		I can't remember.
		And then I see the city and the buildings and I'm like, holy, I'm from Chicago, and New York has five Chicagos.
		So I remember, you're driving downtown, you see all the buildings, and it's like, I'm used to that.
		New York was something else.
		I'm like, I want to live here.
		It's like being downtown Chicago everywhere!
		And then after a few years, I was like, you want to go to a restaurant?
		You're crammed in the corner in this tiny seat with your shoulders like this, and you're like, thanks for the food!
		There's no room.
		I'm exaggerating, obviously.
		But it's like, it's congested.
		It stinks.
		There's nowhere to park.
		Transportation, the trains are often crowded and smelly.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I used to love all of this.
		I used to love every single thing about it.
		I really was such a New York supremacist.
		I really thought it was the greatest place ever.
		And I still, you know, it's really hard.
		I always compare it to letting go of a really good relationship that just isn't working out for you.
		Yeah, I don't know.
		If COVID had never happened, I would be here like being like, New York is the best!
		You don't fuck with New York, sorry.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What was your first experience seeing Manhattan?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		So I grew up in Brooklyn, so I don't really remember.
unidentified		I feel bad for you, you know why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of people, like growing up in Chicago, I got to experience the first time seeing a city as massive as New York, but for someone who's from there, there's no point where you're gonna see something... I guess you go to Tokyo.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tokyo's crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I had the most nutball experience with New York City.
		I moved to Queens.
		I'd been through Manhattan when I was younger, but I took the subway into Manhattan for the first time.
		I walked out of the subway and looked up and it was just...
		90 story skyscrapers all around me and I could feel like the vacuum and like I was being sucked up in a way.
		It was so bizarre.
		Man, what a city.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I do think that Tim is right.
		Sorry, I have to say this real fast.
		I think that Tim is right.
		And I think that cities have become too crowded.
		I think too many people live in one place at one time.
		It becomes very insular.
		So instead of being like a cultural center, you just get like an echo chamber.
		And also when something goes wrong, it affects a thousand more people than it would otherwise.
		It's like a ripple effect and it's exponential in a city.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And just this moment of conformity.
		Cities have really not been a great place to be when everybody has to think the same.
		There isn't that, you know, diversity of thought or just a lot of great culture going on because everybody's exactly the same and you could only be one way and like comedy has to be very very muted and all of it really just sucks and it's it's it is definitely a problem that is centered on cities but it's a problem that we're having I think all across the country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think one of the issues is that when you get a complete one-party rule, there's no way to challenge bad ideas.
		So the people in power are like, hey, we're going to lock everyone down and shut your businesses down.
		And you agree because you're a Democrat, right?
		You're not a Republican, are you?
		And they go, I'm not a Republican.
		I'm going to wear the mask so that no one thinks I'm a Republican.
		So saith David Hogg.
		And then you'll get Cuomo being like, I'm going to put people in nursing homes and kill 15,000 people.
		And then they're like, well, he's a Democrat, so it must be OK.
		And then they find out that he, like, abused women, and they all freak out.
		Like, oh no!
		What do we do?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		That's the one thing we're not supposed to... But then they, like, didn't... Then the freak out was very short-lived, and then they were like, but he's a Democrat, so it's okay.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And I'm a Democrat, so it's okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why I think Stakehomes is wrong, right?
		So, uh...
		Big threat from Stakehomes I mentioned, I think, three times now.
		No, no, no, but I think it's important that... What's interesting about this is it's a mainstream brand, and they're constantly... These brands are trying to one-up each other.
		Wendy's was like always snarking, and they were more of like the youthful exuberant, like...
		Well, you suck!
		Yeah!
		And people would follow it and laugh.
		Then Stakehams comes out and the Wikipedia says that they receive accolades for acting like a real person on Twitter.
		Well, the interesting thing is this Twitter thread that Stakehams put out is a centrist view on societal collapse and talking about what we need to do.
		Saying that experts need to admit when they were wrong and apologize for it, and the other side needs to recognize that they have limitations, too, and there are experts who probably know more than them.
		And I'm like, thank you, Stakehams, for trying, but you are late to the party.
		Joe Biden has near universal approval from Democrats and near universal disapproval from Republicans.
		Nothing will change this.
		Nothing.
		Nothing.
		You could go to a Biden supporter and be like, I will give you $1,000,000 to put on a MAGA hat, and they're gonna be like, no.
		Okay, maybe $1,000,000.
unidentified		But I'm exaggerating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I gotta be honest.
		I'm willing to bet that a lot of these people on the left will not do anything to benefit themselves if it puts them at odds with their tribe.
		They're scared to break from it.
		And it's this social order thing that humans have, where it's like, you gotta be a part of a certain tribe, otherwise, You'll be at risk.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the interesting thing here is that conservatives tend to be more individualistic, so they're less concerned about being outed, but still kind of are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, when it comes to the culture war, right, there are numerous instances where you could say something that will get a bunch of people on the right angry with you, and they'll start canceling you, and they'll do the exact same thing as the left will do.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Not exact same.
		I talk about this a lot, where I think it's... it is different.
		Like, a public conservative has a much tougher time getting canceled than a public leftist.
		I mean, they can't...
		Recently I've been clicking hashtags to see why a celebrity was trending, and it's because they hate all of them.
		All the celebrities are like, not left enough.
		Like this celebrity used to be... Lena Dunham trended recently.
		They hate her now.
		She used to be one of them, and now she's out.
		I just don't see that happening in the same way with conservatives.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, you're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I say it's the exception on the right, but the rule on the left.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there are still tribalists on the right who will be like, you can't, you know, I reject this, you're wrong, you're a grifter and all that stuff.
		But on the left, it's like, jeez, it's like 99 things you could say to get fired, you know, get canceled, and one thing to stay in line.
		On the right, with Republicans and conservatives and the intellectual dark web kind of centrists, it's 99 things you can say without anyone caring, but that one thing you can say that'll get you canceled.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was a... Charlie Kirk, you know, was talking about Simone Biles, and all of a sudden I see that he's trending and there's an uproar.
		We brought it up the other day, but I think this is a really great example.
		Philip DeFranco did a segment where he used an image of Charlie Kirk with a shrunken face for his thumbnail.
		And I'm like, what, why?
		What?
		So, you know, do you know what the Franco is?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's one of the first big YouTubers.
		He does, he would do news and he's like, you know, he would be like, you just got
		filled in and that was his bit.
		And he would like talk about the news and it was always very like moderate.
		He actually interviewed, I think he interviewed Gary Johnson during, what was
		it like 20, was it 2016?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's when I voted for him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he was like, you know, Felt at the time was like libertarian, calm, reasonable, and rational, and now he's like, he came out when it came to the Covington kids.
		He made a video where he was wrong.
		Then when it came, there's other instances, but now it's like, Charlie Kirk says something that people think is stupid, and I'm like, who cares, whatever.
		Like, I don't know if Charlie Kirk would say whatever he wants.
		It's got no bearing on the Olympics.
		Some guy had an opinion, great.
		And then I criticized Phil because he tweeted, like, you're a, you know, whatever, and was insulting him.
		But then I saw today, he was like, we're back, and it's a thumbnail.
		And not only is he talking about Charlie Kirk, which is fine, but he does this meme where they shrink Charlie Kirk's face, which I'll admit, great meme.
		It's really funny.
		Like, the joke is that every time Charlie makes a point, his face shrinks or something.
		Memes are great.
		You know, by all means, make fun of him and Ben and everybody else and me and, you know, who I don't care.
		But like, why would someone who is known for being a like straight shooter news personality all of a sudden be playing tribal politics and just insulting someone for content?
		This is cultural decay.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you can see it's infecting everything.
		The New York Times has become this.
		Our mainstream news apparatus has completely become crap all over people and find whatever reason to hate somebody for tribal points.
		And then even now, I mean, YouTube is built on this basically.
		Drama channels.
		And then here you go.
		This is it.
		Our entire news media is now just, who can I crap on for clicks?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Strife sells.
		I mean, that's like, it's popular.
		I find myself like sometimes clicking on a headline of like two celebrities I've never even heard of to be like, this celebrity and this celebrity are like beefing and like, oh, what are they fighting about?
		Like what happened?
		Like, I don't even know them.
		I don't even know who they are.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'll do that, and then I'll see it, and I'll be like, ah!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And I'll click it, I'll X out really fast, and I'll be like, I hope the algorithm didn't catch that, but it did.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Of course, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It knows I clicked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, people were commenting the other day that some leftist channel made a video about me, like an expose, and I'm like, dude, this is like the 80th expose.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just ignore all this stuff.
		And then there's people messaging me right now, because there's another hit piece coming, and it's a big one, I guess.
		And I'm like, I literally don't care.
		Like, I just, I'm not going to make videos about this stuff.
		I don't care about myself enough to engage in interpersonal conflict on YouTube or to be like, you know, oh, Charlie Kirk said this.
		Now, like AOC, she's in Congress with 12 million or whatever followers and she's extremely prominent and influential.
		She's a politician.
		Uh, CEOs, politicians, and to an extent, many personalities.
		I think it's, it's, it's, it's fair game.
		But when it's like people just doing drama to bicker with each other and news outlets being like, we're going to write garbage, fake trash to like, try and get somebody.
		I'm like, you know what?
		There's a rock I can crawl under and just, you know, dig a hole and play video games the rest of my life.
unidentified		That was interesting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You said how that you could get a Biden supporter, put on a MAGA hat if you paid him a million bucks.
		Well, I was being everybody that you couldn't, but but you're kind of right that if you bribe people, they will change their political ideology.
		And the problem is Biden has his finger on the money printer.
		He's bribing everyone right now.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Goldberg.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Are they unloading?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't think maybe a million dollars would get a Biden voter to put on a MAGA hat.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Fifty.
		You could probably get tons of Biden supporters to put on MAGA hats for 50 bucks.
		They don't have loyalty to that guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, but they are scared of looking like Republicans.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that picture circulates, you lose everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They think it's a Klan hat.
		They'll be like, no way, dude.
		Yeah, it's like, tell them this.
		Put the hat on, I'll take a picture of it, and I'll give you $50,000.
		They probably say no, and I'm not kidding.
		Maybe that's a good idea for a Man in the Street video.
		We'll go to New York and be like, how do you feel about Trump?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No, 50's still too much.
		I think you have to go for 50 bucks.
		50 bucks is sort of like, it's a one second thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or just see how little people really care.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 50,000.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know, I put on like, I don't even know what I put on for 50,000.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I put on two masks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, like, obviously there's regular people who voted who don't really care all that much.
		But I mean, like, look at what David Hogg said about wearing masks, where he's like, I'm going to keep wearing because I don't want people to think I'm a Republican.
		It's like, what?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I live in, like, the super leftist area where, I mean, masks were absolutely, like, you know, a signal that I belong.
		I'm part of this group.
		If you're not wearing one, you're not part of the group.
		And it's important to people to be part of the group.
		So, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe $50,000 is a lot of money.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		It's too much.
		It's too much.
		You got to, like, do, like, $100.
		Like, this here's $100.
		Like, put on this hat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They'd say no.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No, they would.
		I think you'd get a lot of yeses.
		You think they'd take it?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Well, they'd put it on.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, like, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On camera.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're filming, though.
unidentified		Right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think $100 would do it.
		I mean, people are about to get the shot.
		They deferred for so long.
		The vaccines have been out for months and months, but now they're going to get it for the $100.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what I mean is, when you look at those polled who are Democrats and their 90% approval for Joe Biden, those are the kind of people I think would be like, never.
		Regular people on the street who are like... Regular people on the street would do it.
		Yeah, of course, of course, of course.
		I mean the partisans.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my neighborhood would be tough.
		Park Slope would be.
		Because they're also rich, so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You told somebody, I'll give you $100 to wear the MAGA hat and we're going to film you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got a feeling they're going to say no.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		It would have to be like regular people on the street.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How about a college campus?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		That's really tough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they want the money.
		Boy, would they get in trouble if that photo goes around.
		What are they going to say?
		They paid me to wear it.
		They'll be like, what?
		You took money to wear that thing?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		You Nazi.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do think, I do think money talks.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm willing to bet that you could find like a moderate left or right personality, offer them enough money and they'll flip sides instantly.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		It's the whole, you know, you offer enough money and people will do it.
		But I think for 50,000, everybody does it.
		Yeah.
		10,000, everybody does.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I think so too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't know about everybody.
		A photo of you wearing that hat.
		You will never get hired in your city.
		Your friends will be like, what is this?
unidentified		And you'll try claiming, but they paid me to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They paid me a lot of money to do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They'll be like, you took money to support Donald Trump?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, you see what some people get canceled for.
		I'm not convinced.
		People on the street would do a lot for a Klondike bar.
		You know what I mean?
		So, sure.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you should just offer just a Klondike bar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We should actually do that.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Forget money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to do this.
		This melting Klondike bar.
		I want to go out on the street and I want to go to... You know what would be funny?
		We're in an area that's very Trumpy.
		I'll go in there and ask people to wear a Biden hat.
		Like, how much for you to wear this Biden hat?
		I'll take a picture of you.
		You know what would happen?
		Every single conservative would be like, how much money do you want?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, whatever.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know why?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Again, multi Klondike bar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's like, you find a guy with a MAGA hat and you say, bro, I got 50 bucks for you to wear this Biden hat.
		He'll be like, put it on and be like, are we good?
		All right, thanks.
		Have a nice day.
		Because they don't care.
		No one's going to come after them for wearing a Biden hat.
		Trump hat on the other hand.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Because, you know, there's acceptable opinions and there's unacceptable opinions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It would be hilarious when like the Trump supporter is like, his friend walks up and he's like, I just saw a picture of you in a Biden hat.
		And he's going to be like, they gave me 50 bucks.
		Let's go get some beers.
		No one will care.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No one will care.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In fact, uh, interestingly, there's a phenomenon where urban centers, even in red States are very pro-Democrat and very critical race theory and all this stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the craziest thing to me.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It is really crazy.
		Like to hear that about that in like Tulsa and other places like that.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, even in West Virginia, you'll, we'll drive through some areas and we'll see like the new pride flags and stuff
		like that.
		And I'm like, wow, in West Virginia, huh?
		But not everybody.
		You still, if you go to urban areas, you tend to see it.
		But West Virginia is like the second most Trump supporting state.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they're all, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You got crazy things to say about a lot of crazy things.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I believe it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I'm sometimes like I would not want to have a conversation, you know, but there are a lot of where we are.
		There's a lot of rich Democrat people from D.C.
		who move out here because freedom.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		People like the freedom.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what happens.
		Nobody wants to live in DC.
		There's mask mandates.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wants to live in Maryland.
		They're very restrictive and for a while restrictions as well.
		Now they can drive about an hour and a half, be in West Virginia.
		There's a funny thing because in the area where I actually live, They say that they can all tell who the DC transplants are, because they'll be like, someone left their garbage at Raccoon's Cane, and they'll be like, and?
		They're like, welcome to the mountain.
		And they'll be like, there was a bear the other day!
		And they're like, oh, how many?
		Just one?
		Then there's like gunshots going off and then people are posting online like, why are there gunshots?
		And they'll complain and will come out and be like, you know, I'm wondering why it's happening.
		And they're like, people shoot all the time.
		There's like a range right down the mountain, like right down the road.
		What do you expect?
		It's crazy.
		There are people who live within like a few minutes of walking.
		There's like an open range in the mountain and there's like a house right there.
		There's a bunch of houses and you just like walk for about 10 minutes and then you're at a shooting range and the people just live right there shooting every day, nonstop.
		And there's hunting.
		Yeah, so these urban liberals, you don't want to stay away, man, because it's a bunch of guns, right-wing jobs with guns.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And bears.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And bears.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We really need to spread out.
		It's so important.
		I kept thinking when I was like a kid, like 10, 12 years ago, oh, we'll just build magnetic trains from small village to small village and renegotiate our infrastructure.
		Instead of big cities, we'll have lots of little ones all interconnected.
		Where's the magnetic trains, guys?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What about cities that are concentric circles run by supercomputers?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		All right, that sounds like Burning Man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Minus the computer, I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we don't have a collective cultural mission.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird.
		Maybe because our technology's been suppressed for so long by the electric So the U.S.
		had been losing every element of the space race.
		Sputnik launched first, they put a dog in space, and the U.S.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we have no competition bro. That's the problem the copper industry. We went to the moon because we were like
		Russia. What up?
		Yeah, Soviet Union. We're gonna go to the moon So the u.s. Had been losing every element of the space race
		Sputnik launched first They put a dog in space and the u.s. Was like every step of
		the way. We're behind. Let's go big So I think like the only thing the u.s.
		actually won was getting to the moon, because they were like, well, we can't win all of these things, let's just... So they rallied everybody, they made it the mission, everybody was cheering, they were like, yeah!
		And at the same time, there was still a bunch of crazy stuff going on outside of that, you know?
		Protests, conflict.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Trump was giving a speech, and he said that we'll be the first country to put a man on Mars, and I didn't believe him.
		I just heard it, and I was like, you blowhard...
		You know?
		Prove it.
		Prove it.
		I don't believe you anymore.
		And I know that the corporations are more effective at getting people into space than the American government.
		If you look at the last year of activity.
		So I just have no faith in that industry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Will we go to Mars?
		What's the mission called?
		We're going to build a colony on the moon first, and then from the moon we launch to go to Mars.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Project Artemis?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Artemis, there you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you wanna know why it's never gonna happen, Ian?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What, going to Mars?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm gonna blame the media.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Do it!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Check out the story we got.
		New NPR ethics policy.
		It's okay for journalists to demonstrate.
		Sometimes.
		You know why?
		I'm willing to bet they changed that headline.
		They say, NPR rolled out a substantial update to its ethics policies earlier this month, expressly stating that journalists may participate in activities that advocate for the freedom and dignity of human beings on both social media and real life.
		The new policy eliminates the blanket prohibition from participating in marches, rallies, and public events, as well as vague language that directed NPR journalists to avoid personally advocating for controversial or polarizing issues.
		This policy will change the moment an NPR employee comes out with a Gadsden flag preaching to end the lockdowns.
		They're gonna be like, not that freedom and dignity!
		That's fascism!
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
		I think every activist thinks that they're involved in the pursuit of freedom and dignity.
		I think NPR really hasn't thought this one through because even a pro-Cuban activist, I can't see NPR being okay with that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, they say that the new policy reads NPR editorial staff may express support for democratic civic values that are core to NPR's work, such as but not limited to the freedom and dignity of human beings, the rights of a free and independent press, the right to thrive in society without facing discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual identity, disability, or religion.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		What was the first one?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The first one was the rights of, uh, I'm sorry, the freedom and dignity of human beings.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Including unborn human beings?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, of course not.
		The rights of free and independent press.
		So you can protest in support of Infowars?
		Is it okay to march in a demonstration and say Black Lives Matter?
		What about a pride parade?
		In theory, the answer today is yes, but in practice, NPR journalists will have to discuss specific decisions with their bosses, who in turn will have to ask a lot of questions.
		The carve-out is somewhat narrow.
		Protests organized with the purpose of demanding equal and fair treatment of people are now permitted, as long as the journalist asking is not covering that event.
		However, rallies organized to support a specific piece of legislation would be off limits.
		Other events featuring a slate of political candidates from one party are also out of bounds.
		From one party?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Are we saying that there were no NPR reporters at, like, the Pink Hat March in 2016?
		Of course there were.
		Like, come on.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lots of them, actually.
		In fact, I know a lot of NPR people are activists.
		Like, they're all activists.
		New York, the whole media apparatus in New York.
		New York's a different country at this point.
		I don't even know what's going on in New York.
		The media ecosystem in New York is Insane.
		You're on an island, New York Post.
		They censor you, they block your stories, and then it's really cabal-y.
		You're familiar with the journo lists?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So for those that aren't familiar, New York journalists had this, and they probably still do, message boards, basically, where they all communicate and share stories and all believe the same things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's basically like, There's no competition in media, because all the news outlets are in the same place.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Even Fox News is.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But the joke with journalists is, like, they were sharing opinions, and, like, people were like, journalists have opinions?
		Like, come on, like, why don't we just be honest about it?
		Like, why doesn't everybody just speak their bias and, like, get it over with?
		We all know that everybody's biased.
		Like, it's, there's no such thing as somebody who, like, has no predisposed opinions.
		Like, just Get it out there.
		Maybe this whole thing is over with journalism being no opinions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To be a public figure and your goal is just to report, but then to use that position to assert, that's where the problem arises if you're just trying to be a journalist.
		And I think you're right.
		Maybe it's just over.
		It's propagandistic warfare at this point.
		That's it.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I saw somebody yesterday, I shared a tweet and they were quoting NBC News, but because the guy I shared it from, it was Robbie Starbuck?
		Starbuck, yeah.
		So somebody was like, I can't take you seriously when you share Robbie Starbuck, but he was like literally just quoting NBC News.
		He had clipped the article, but it was like, no, I can't.
		I cannot even, cannot use his copy and paste.
		I cannot have his, you know, Fingerprints on this and it's just it's so tribal that we like can't even believe a news source when somebody we don't like shares it Yeah, we're at a point where the hyperpolarization is so intense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the news is relevant anymore People will scan the news and be like don't care if that's true Don't care if that's true this one kind of screws me if it's true, so I'll ignore it and this one perfect Let me tweet that Yeah.
		And that's it.
		And then I don't know where we end up.
		My, my thing is get out of the cities.
		You know, don't sit around the ticking.
		They're, they're, they're ticking time bombs.
		They're going to, they're going to lock down everything again.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Miami's doing well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Really good mayor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Miami is doing well, Florida in general, Texas.
		So maybe, maybe it's if you live in a blue state, stay there.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know NPR's private company?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They call it public radio but it's funded by private money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		2% of their revenue comes from public grants from I think the Department of Commerce and the Department of Education.
		We actually pulled this up before the show.
		A lot of people keep saying it's my tax dollars.
		A little bit, I guess.
		But, you know, sure, it is your tax dollars, to a certain degree.
		Yeah, NPR is a, you know, a lefty, progressive media outlet.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy Dore was telling Joe Rogan about this when he was on his show, and I was thinking, yeah, Joe actually said, well, they should have to change their name.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was just about to say that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's not public radio.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And, like, Federal Express had to change it.
		It's not federal.
		The Federal Reserve's not federal.
		They had to change it to FedEx.
		I don't know if they had to, but they did in the 90s.
		It used to be called Federal Express.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It still is Federal Express.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's FedEx now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Really?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they officially changed it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think that is scandalous that you could call it public or federal if it's not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is not Federal Express.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, I didn't know that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they did it to avoid a lawsuit or what, but I'm glad they did.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Even the word Fed is a little misleading.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why did they change their name?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would like to know.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Somebody told me that every time a company changed their name, like Dairy Queen changed their name to DQ and KFC changed their name to KFC.
		There's a reason they do it.
		There's always a reason.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Kentucky Fried Chicken, they didn't actually have enough chicken, right?
unidentified		Oh, really?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was because fried chicken, like, you know, it was like health consciousness had, like, increased.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not sure about that.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Fried chicken was out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they were forced to change their name from Federal Express to FedEx.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember it ever being forced.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It happened like in the 90s or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was 2000.
		They rebranded everything to FedEx.
		And all the planes and everything was changed.
		Yeah, maybe it was, I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I would like to see that put into law, that you can't call your company Federal.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because I was like, could I make a company called Federal National Broadcast Corporation and sell t-shirts?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I can. Is that legal? It shouldn't be legal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't the Postal Service sue the ban of the Postal Service? Oh, I don't know. Oh, yeah. It's
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		ridiculous. Because they're entities who have branding and names and stuff like that. That may have
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		happened. I'm not sure. The Postal Service is a big deal. They found Ben Franklin was like the
		first postmaster general and that was a national company. Now we have UPS. We have basic Amazon is
		like our national shipping agency right And it's a corporation.
		Like we really need a national, a national shipping, like organization.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We need more of those, but I don't like the government having a monopoly on that stuff either.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can we just go to Mars already?
		Can we just, can, can, can Joe Biden come out and be like, Oh, I'm going to scrap everything in the budget bill.
		And we're just going to spend it all on Mars.
		I'd be like, all right, there we go.
		I'm down.
		I'm bored.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Somebody slip that idea to him right before he goes on and you have a good shot of it.
unidentified		You know what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can we sneak index cards to Biden?
		So it's like he's handed the cards, like we do this Ocean's 11 style thing where the cards get switched and then he's like, we're gonna go to Mars.
		That's it.
		I'm done.
		I'd be like, I don't care about the culture war stuff.
		They're saying the same thing yesterday, they're saying today.
		It's just getting noisier and noisier and more confusing.
		Let's just go to Mars.
		We'll just go.
		Let's do it.
		We'll send a bunch of supplies first.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do we nuke the poles?
		Is that the best option right now?
		Nuke the poles of Mars?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mars doesn't have the mass to sustain life in any meaningful way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hmm unless we build like bases and the issue is that we'd have to build a massive we'd have to we'd have to be able to build and we have to be able to refine fuels and build rockets to get off the planet in the first place so it's like mostly a one-way trip but then you'd have to live in bunkers forever Because of radiation and because of there's no atmosphere and there's no magnetosphere to protect from the solar particles.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we should reconsider this whole going to Mars.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Let's do some other stuff first.
unidentified		All right, all right, all right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's my other idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's find an Earth-like exoplanet.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And just go for it.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that sounds better than your, you know, living in hell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It'll take too long.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can we build a Stargate or something?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can we find one?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, let's find one.
unidentified		Probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What a good show.
unidentified		Sure, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think you could super-accelerate through, um, black holes.
		Through those, what are they called?
		Charged black holes?
		They have a double event horizon.
		I think you can super-accelerate through them to another star.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You wanna know the sad reality?
		If there is life out there that travels the stars...
		And they have massive ships that can travel faster than light and all that stuff.
		We are but humble chickens on the earth.
		They look at us like nothing, you know?
		I'm thinking about like when I watch the chickens go do their chicken business and they're like walking around making little weird noises and they went into our garden bed where we have the basil and they started digging because they like to do these dirt baths and they uprooted the basil and I'm like, so we got to repot them.
		But you look at them doing that, and we laugh.
		Like, look at them!
		They're so dumb!
		They're rolling around in dirt!
		And then I'm imagining, like, I'm sitting here, like, working on the computer and, like, reading up stories, and I'm imagining, like, some interstellar, ultra-intelligent species being like, look at them!
		They're, like, trying to read information, but they go so slow they can barely understand what's going on in their own world.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Do you see the meme that was, like, what if UFOs are just other, uh, planets billionaires?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They probably are!
		They probably would be.
		I mean, it's not going to be the, well, I don't know, it's assuming there's wealth and that kind of stuff on other planets.
		Yeah.
		You know, we, we have, we can barely leave our own planet.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, we go to the moon 70, whatever year, 60 something years ago, and we're like, yay!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We, we, we went from the blue one to the little one, and that's as far as we've gone.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, nobody else has gone.
		There's only one flag on the moon.
		I mean, at least we're still number one, you know?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		For now.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Like, we're not that great compared to then, but we're still better than everybody else.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we need to... I don't know, we need... Like, how do we have that big scientific breakthrough?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, rocketry was amazing.
		How do we get that anti-grav, man?
		How do we get that, you know, faster-than-light travel?
		Maybe it's not possible.
		Maybe we're trapped here forever.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		We need to mathematically prove it first.
		That's why Einstein's E equals mc squared was so revolutionary, because he simplified the mathematics that showed... I don't know, what is that?
		The speed of light equals...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Energy equals the mass times velocity.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the mass squared times the speed of light.
		And he basically, I don't know, created like a density of energy or something.
		But he did it simply.
		So if we can show that you can get more energy out of a system than you put into it, like for 150 years they've been quoting these ancient laws, like Newton laws, that are like, say, you can't get more energy out of a system than you put in.
		See, that's how you get water out of wells, and they're like using these old theories.
		But if we can rewrite physics mathematically, then people will accept it, then the technology will start to become accepted.
		You know what would be cool?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, I don't think we're around for any of that, but yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if, like, one day, some dude's just chillin', and then he accidentally, like, sneezes and farts at the same time, and it pulls up the console commands?
		And then he's like, he sees this, like, you know, you know, the, what, what, what is that little thing called, the indicator, when it's blinking on the screen, or whatever?
		And then he's like, uh, and then, uh, appears, and he's like, search item list, one through a hundred, and then all of a sudden, a bunch of words, he's like, oh!
		And then he just starts, like, manipulating, you know, you know console commands, right, in video games?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, when you play, like, Fallout, or... Forward slash, forward slash, C, You could do like, you know, set character health, 40 million.
		And then he's just like, whoa.
		And then he's like, set player size, 1,000.
		And then all of a sudden we see some dude just destroying reality with console commands.
		I'd actually welcome that.
		I'd be like, hey, at least something's happening, I guess.
		You know?
		Because other than that, it's just same old thing every single day with the insanity and the absurdity and no one does anything.
		Like, we get the Republicans being like, we refuse to wear masks.
		And I'm like, oh, we did this last year.
		Like, here we go again.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy that this is like we have the internet and it's so amazing and like we should be so wowed by it every day and we use it to argue with like doofuses on Twitter.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		At least I do.
unidentified		For sure.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I restrain myself so hard.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		It's such a time suck.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Even to you and Chris, I can't bring myself to talk to you guys on Twitter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you saw that tweet thread?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was just text.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We were talking about censorship and stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian thinks that piracy isn't theft.
		And my brother got mad because he made a video that went viral and was pirated over a billion times.
		Literally a billion times.
		And his face isn't in the video.
		So when it got pirated, he got no credit for it.
		And in fact, it took the money away from his actual revenue source, which was the video on his YouTube channel.
		And then he started trying to go after people who are stealing it.
		They're putting it in TV shows or whatever.
		A billion views.
		That's a lot of money.
		And he got zero for it because it was stolen.
		And the funny thing is the video is like years and years old.
		You may have seen it.
		It is a van and then it says actual police footage and a hand reaches out.
		It's being pulled over by a cop.
		You know, you hear the police chatter.
		And then there's a baggie attached to balloons and he releases the balloons and it says how to ditch your stash.
		And then the cop runs out and starts firing it again.
		It's really fake.
		But because his face isn't in the video, he gets no credit for it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What do you do, watermark videos and stuff?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's impossible.
		So the assumption that you had, Ian, was that someone's going to earn recognition because it's a picture of their face and their name.
		But a lot of people produce music with no words.
		So there's no singing.
		It's just a song.
		Like, oh, and then they just download it.
		And then they don't know who made it or where it came from.
		And it goes viral.
		And then the people who made it.
		Really good example.
		Who is that guy, um, Rusty Cage?
		He has that, the, the knife song.
		Um, he, he, he did a video where he took a knife and he was doing the knife game with your fingers.
		And he sang, he's like, I forgot how the song goes.
unidentified		Like, na-na-na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na-na.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then what happened was some rapper used that line and then on TikTok the song went crazy viral with, for someone else who had basically taken what he had written.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		On TikTok?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it went viral because someone took the song and then remade it, the melody and everything, but put it in their own song and then he didn't get any credit for it.
		It was just basically taken from him and then the other guy gets to go viral for it.
		So yeah, that's the problem of... I mean, I guess that's just general copyright infringement.
		But the piracy was people taking my brother's videos and then re-uploading it all across their own channels and just publishing it and sharing it and doing whatever they want with it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't like when people, um, what do you call it?
		Impersonate?
		Like take credit for your work?
		I don't like that.
		That's bad, actually.
		Very bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what about if you write a song, and then everyone starts downloading it, and they don't know who wrote it or where it came from?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the problem with someone trying to run it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the funny thing is, the reason Chris got mad about that is, he dedicated a lot of time and energy, he got a car, they got props, they bought all this stuff, they produced it, he got nothing for it, and then he was eventually like, I can't afford to do this anymore.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We should play the video someday.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Give him his due credit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We spent money to make this video.
		It was taken, like, the success of the video was robbed from us, and we just generally lost money.
		So now there's no more videos.
		Otherwise there could have been way more.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Time to rectify Chris Poole.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Time for Super Chats!
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It is time for Super Chats.
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		But share the video, share the show if you like it, and get those superchats in.
		Let's read what y'all have to say.
		All right.
		Da Bob says, Thanks all for your hard- for your work.
		Gave mom a true crime subscription for mom's- mom's day.
		Might sign up- might sign her up for Timcast so you can red pill her.
		Fundraising to fight ex-wife for custody.
		Can explain and pay friend.
		Hand Robert at- what- okay, I don't know what that is.
		Um.
		We are, in the next week or so, gonna be launching the new show, which is like...
		I don't know if they're right.
		It's Tales of Interest.
		We'll call it that.
		Tales of Interest.
		There's spooky stories, there's unexplained mysteries, there's creepy science experiments.
		It's just like the dark underbelly of the world.
		That's what we're going for with it.
		So we're working on the design, the branding.
		We've got a cool team and the articles are fantastic.
		Go to TimCast.com, check out the articles from Shane.
		He just put one up about the simulation theory.
		He's got one about birds disappearing.
		So he's, you know, writing these stories and they're incredible stories.
		And then we're gonna actually make like a podcast show with sound effects.
		And then we're gonna have the members version as us talking about these crazy things.
		So like...
		Simulation theory DMT all that, you know, create true crime that stuff.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You can find a lot of Shane's earlier work I think it's under the name of Cassandra his early stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if you search Shane, you'll find oh it No, it might have been published because uh, because he didn't have a violent.
		No, I think it's all Shane Well, he did I thought he didn't have an account for a while.
		So some of it was coming through on Cassandra And we're gonna be creating like its own dedicated, you know channel page So when you click the channel, you'll see all the articles and then we're gonna put the videos and it's gonna be a blast Goatman Jacks says if Ian doesn't dress up as a pirate for Halloween, I will be most disappointed.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Alright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Audra Lynn says, hey Tim, my brother Duck was just promoted to the rank of Master Sergeant in the USAF.
		Could you and the crew please congratulate him for his hard-earned achievement?
		Thanks.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Congrats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Congrats, Duck.
		And if you make Colonel, let me know if they let you into the Stargate program, because I'd love to see what O'Neill and Carter are up to.
		I'm just kidding.
		Flimsy Fox says, hey Tim, as you might be able to tell my profile picture, I am a furry.
		I want to expand my influence in the community.
		However, it's completely taken over by authoritarians.
		How do I navigate this?
		Honestly, I have no idea how to navigate the furry community, unfortunately.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Furry or authoritarian?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's actually like, there's like some articles about like furry Nazis or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that real?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What is happening?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's an old one though, so I don't even know.
		What a simulation.
		Marble755 says, the country is so split.
		Perhaps another catastrophic event needs to happen, like how the U.S.
		came together during the events of World War II with Pearl Harbor.
		Some say January 6th was that event.
		Definitely not.
		That divides the country severely.
		But I believe it was the Project for a New American Century who claimed that we need a new Pearl Harbor, and it's a horrifying statement in my opinion.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But also 9-11, it didn't last.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		It was like brief, our coming together.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We ended up doing bad things.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The internet kind of blew the weapons of mass destruction thing out of the water and tainted that whole unification.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, FoxDie says, or FoxD.
		Thank you for your great service, Tim.
		I really think you should consider talking to Ed Snowden.
		He's an innovator in the free speech press movement and would educate you from his POV how government sees control.
		Yeah, that'd be great.
		I guess the one challenge is we never do remotes.
		We're actually not built for it.
		Maybe when we do the new studio, we might actually accommodate that.
		But I still very much want people to be in studio.
		infinitely better when you have someone in front of you but maybe we'll actually we actually don't have any of that infrastructure built to do any kind of remote conversation because we didn't want to we specifically were like nah we don't want to do that so all right let's see Butters Oregano says, Ian, I'm glad you're feeling better.
		Digital piracy is theft and your denial of this leaves me speechless.
		Like Michael Knowles recently released book Speechless.
		Controlling words, controlling minds.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Someone told me that them calling it piracy enables the FBI to go after people with like piracy laws.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Old, old piracy laws.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like mark and reprisal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I really, I really doubt this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like hardcore pirate.
		So I'm not, I didn't follow up on that, but if that's the case, that's, that's terrifying.
		That's crazy.
		Real pirates go around and steal loot and kill people, so that's not what copying information is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if there's rules.
		See, heathen says Tim, I'm off topic, but when are you going to start harvesting the
		deer eating your apples?
		They are delicious.
		I don't know if we're allowed to kill the deer.
		I don't know, there's rules.
		Someone told me that if they're on your property and they're coming right for you, you can.
		I was told turkeys are fair game, but deer might be different.
		So, there's a couple babies.
		There's four that come here all the time.
		There's one, I think, might be a younger dude.
		I'm not sure.
		But there's a mom with her two babies.
		And they come in and they mill about.
		But they don't like... We got the mineral blocks.
		They don't want them.
		Deer walked right up, sniffed it.
		Sniffed it again, walked away.
		And I was like, but it's apple-scented.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		What's going on?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess they didn't want it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Spoiled deer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I wonder where they're going, getting good stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Scott James Pilkington says, Jaffa Cree.
		Timcast crew and greetings from New Zealand.
		I just want to say thanks for all the awesome work you guys are doing.
		And there's a survival book lot on Humble Bundle at the moment that looks to be good value.
		Peace.
		And for those that aren't familiar, Jaffa Cree is a Stargate reference.
		It was funny when I was doing all the Star Trek references, there was like all this Star Trek stuff.
		And then someone was like, Tim, watch Stargate.
		And I was like, okay.
		And now it's all Stargate references.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hey, shout out to humblebundle.com.
		I've been using it for about seven years.
		Every month, you know, you can spend like 10 bucks a month or 12 bucks a month and get like 12 free video games or spend a dollar on a packaging at five games.
		It's amazing.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Old man new to trading says, hey Tim, Bannon is right in regards to schools.
		I just got an email regarding vaccines and masks, Charles County, Maryland.
		Yeah, all these schools are going to be sending out these messages to parents who are going to be like, I need my kids in school.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're going to be like, no!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're going to lose it.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I hope you're right.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
unidentified		Well.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Possibly, yeah.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		They didn't lose it last summer is the issue here.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's been longer.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I just thought by last summer when schools wouldn't open, parents would like, you know, lose it.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But they didn't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So I see a couple people saying this.
		Blave Kaiser says, someone in Albania leaked Pfizer's contract and it's crazy.
		I will have to look into that.
		William Carlos says, Tim, you should reprint some old articles from the 90s and 2000s so the new generations can see who these career politicians really are.
		Also, please check out the pitch from... I won't read your email, but we'll look into it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, just pulling up old Joe Biden videos is effective.
		Danny Douglas says, U.S.
		Navy just restarted the full mask mandates.
		I almost put my fist through a wall.
		Got basically forced into the vaccine to be able to work without the mask.
		Can't get out until I finish my contract in 2024.
		They told everybody, you know, they were like, oh, it's what you got to do.
		DeSantis said, get the vaccine.
		We're back open.
		And then he opened up.
		He kept his promise.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He did, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Lipool of Death Gaming says, as a cancer survivor, I cannot get the vaccine as the PEG component, uh, as, as the PEG component, I've had it before and it resulted in hospitalization for a month and pancreatitis.
		There you go.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, hopefully they're going to have legitimate medical exemptions that are a little bit more broad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess not perfect, but yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Talk to your doctor.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		What is this?
		You know what?
		I don't know what that is.
		Someone's mentioning an ailment their family has.
		I can't.
		I don't know what that is, so I'm going to avoid it because I don't know what to say.
		I can't.
		Yeah.
		Let's see.
		Paranormal Underground says, Eric Finman recently agreed on Twitter to debate the Huntsman, a senior fellow at Security Studies Group and China supply chain expert on the Freedom Phone.
		Get Huntsman on please.
		Interesting.
		We'll take a look.
		So Jason D says ibuprofen is acetaminophen.
		Also, there was a festival for asbestos back in the day where they, a wicker man out of asbestos to show off, they made one.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Nice.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is ibuprofen acetaminophen?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking that up.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I do not believe that it's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think that's true.
		I think ibuprofen is ibuprofen.
		And acetaminophen is acetaminophen because acetaminophen operates under a brand name and there's a different brand name for ibuprofen.
		They're not the same thing.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are not the same.
unidentified		Yeah.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will not say those brand names.
		Alright, let's see what we got.
		Oh man.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Maybe we should save this one for the... Yeah, that's a little too spicy.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Sir Mistress is on Twitter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A journalist named Floragil said someone needs to create adult content for children.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I saw that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yikes.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Can you repeat that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was reading the ingredients for it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if we can repeat that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		OK.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then she deleted it and was like, I didn't mean that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't mean it.
unidentified		Oh, no.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, hear me out.
unidentified		It's getting to it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Hear me out.
		I'm not going to.
		I'm not going to.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I will not be hearing you out, lady.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What the heck?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Dude.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Crazy conversation, man.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Dude, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go!
		Ginger Brown says, NovaVax still to come in fall winter and could provide a solution for a lot of people who remain unvaccinated.
		No mRNA components, no DNA components, no spike proteins, 90% efficacy, and mild side effects so far.
		Yeah, I think Johnson & Johnson is not mRNA, right?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the crazy thing when people say, like, you know, they don't want to get the mRNA vaccine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, Johnson & Johnson.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's still available, isn't it?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ultimately, I'm just like, I don't want to be either convincing or like unconvincing.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
unidentified		Yeah.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Cause you're not a doctor.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Talk to your doctor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't want people to be like, I didn't get it.
		It's your fault.
		Like, don't, don't come to me for advice.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Don't be suing me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's what I say about, you know, when Joe gave advice, I was like, Joe's a lot of his opinion for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you know, don't tell people to go to Fauci either.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		Turk Longwell says, I'd like to nominate Tim to do AOC in a Freedom Tunes episode about AOC's big lie in an AOC voice.
		Where is she?
		Where is she?
		Yeah.
		Cause like, you know, AOC's story about the cop coming to the door and she's like, and there's this bang on the door.
		And then I hear, where is she?
		I'm like, nobody said that.
unidentified		Come on, that's insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you know, what's really bothering me about the story?
		AOC's story makes no sense for one reason.
		She claimed it happened a full hour before the building was breached.
		Why would she assume people would come to her door a full hour before it even happened, and even when the rioting started, 15 minutes after AOC's story occurred?
		The people in Congress, like Ted Cruz and Pelosi, had no idea and were totally calm and were not warned and nothing was happening.
		Lies.
		I hear from conservatives.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She wasn't even the Capitol building.
		She never said she was.
		She said she thought they were, you know, made it to her door because
		there's tunnels between the buildings.
		How about this?
		She claimed the story happened around 1 PM.
		The fighting in front of the Capitol didn't start till 1 15 and the breaching
		of the Capitol didn't happen until two 11.
		She's psychic.
		Why didn't she warn anybody?
		Nobody thought it was going to happen.
		The story was fake.
unidentified		Yup.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Let's see what we got here.
		Marcus Carter says our nation was designed so that we governed ourselves,
		but we've handed these roles to the most corrupt among us.
		We can reclaim our democracy simply by those willing and able running for office, and the rest of us supporting them while rejecting the leaders of the past.
		That's why they don't like Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert, because they push back.
		They really love using the racist and alt-right, and it's just like, that doesn't mean anything anymore.
		It's just the stupidest thing.
		When they called Candace Owens a white supremacist, I'm like, but she's black.
		People are nuts!
		You know what?
		I don't even care.
		Blackrock Beacon says, Dune.
		Once men turned their thinking over to machines in hope that this would set them free.
		But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
		Thou shalt not make a machine the likeness of a human mind.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Great line.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you guys watched Picard?
		No.
		Spoilers!
		Basically there's like a lot of artificial life being created and then there's a concern that they'll wipe out because they believe they're superior and then they'll wipe out organic life and stuff like that.
		Yeah.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I mean that's a common concern, right?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Timmy Silverado says, Tim, Zuby is traveling in the U.S.
		Are you going to have him on your show?
		Well, Zuby tweeted yes.
		Dude, Zuby's a genius, man.
		No, I'm not even kidding.
		I see a bunch of tweets from him.
		There's a reason why his tweets go viral so often.
		There's a few things I noticed about several people on the internet.
		And it's like, something can happen.
		Something can happen.
		And you'll see within the Tribal Hive, they have this perspective on it that's very surface level.
		And then I'll see something from Zuby where it's like he cracked the core and pulls out this interesting point that no one considered.
		You know, he had that viral thread where it's like, things I learned during, you know, COVID about, you know, uh, you know, about people.
		And it was like, it got 40,000 or like, I don't know, tens of thousands of retweets.
		I'm like, man, we gotta have that guy on the show.
		Zuby.
unidentified		Smart dude.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Indeed he is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no joke.
		It's like, there's always something he's putting out.
		I was thinking about that.
		I'm like, hmm, that Zuby rapper guy's like, getting really big.
		How's, and then you follow his Twitter and you're like, oh.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's why.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think I follow him on Instagram too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see.
unidentified		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Moosey Moose says, I got an email from friends of DeSantis, a DeSantis fundraiser, talking about COVID and gain of Fauci research.
		Hilarious pun and continuation of DeSantis's Don't Fauci My Florida shirt.
		Didn't DeSantis say we shouldn't have to live under Faucism?
unidentified		Yep.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		He said it, I think, yesterday, right?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Or today?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, DeSantis is great.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's not perfect or whatever, but I love, I love He's great.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Um, that's why I'm like, I almost think he should run and not Trump because Trump has,
		there, he has a thing about him that makes the left naturally, naturally just wince.
		DeSantis is hard to pin down, the same way Trump is.
		Trump, they just... Of course they'll attack DeSantis.
		They'll make up lie after lie.
		They'll smear him like crazy.
		But they're not going to be as effective with it.
		Trump, people know.
		DeSantis, they're going to be like, ooh.
		And the conservatives know DeSantis.
		And he's saying things like this, which is hilarious.
		Michael Schwobel says, now that lockdowns are coming back, how long until Cuomo puts more people in nursing homes?
		Oh yeah, I can only imagine soon, right?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it worked last time, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's see what we got here.
		Cobalt joint replacements?
		What is this?
		Come and Get It says, after witnessing cobalt joint replacements firsthand, I will wait a few years as I have lost all trust in the FDA and pharma.
		They want me to trust them but never admit fault when they are wrong.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Fauci-ism is like authoritarian incorrectness.
		It's when you mandate things and then change them half the time because you think you're right but you're not.
		Which is...
		You know, I guess what authoritarians do.
unidentified		It's a strategy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Clef the Misfit says, with all due respect, can you please stop wholesale trashing cities?
		I live in Miami.
		I am proud of my city.
		We're pretty laid back and intellectually diverse.
		We don't have the issues of leftist cities.
		Clef, you are 100% correct.
		I stand corrected.
		And you also mentioned Miami's pretty great.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I said Miami, right.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, Mayor Suarez, he really has something going on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Florida itself.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a little different.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Doing pretty well.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Free country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the weather!
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I love the weather.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I'm all about that weather.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like you go outside and it's so humid you're swimming.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like living in slush.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I was telling Lydia on the way over here, that might be true, but it also gets really hot here.
		In Florida, everybody has a pool.
		You have a pool, your friends have a pool, everybody has a pool, and you're just like, whose pool should we go to to get away from this weather?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you get two months out of the year to go outside?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like January and February.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No, it gets chilly some places January, February.
		I don't know.
		I was wearing sweatshirts in January, February in Florida.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Driving on the keys is really fun because like you're, you're, it's, it's their keys.
		It's not like the road is built over water.
		It's, it's real fun.
		When, when we lived in Miami, we had, I think it was an egret.
		It like, uh, I guess it got attacked or whatever and its beak was broken and it landed and it was stuck in our pool.
		And so we went out and we had to like gently get him out of the pool, but then he couldn't go anywhere and he was like too injured.
		So we called the bird sanctuary.
		We were like, what do we do?
		We got this bird.
		It's chilling.
		It's injured, but we think it's alive.
		And he was like, well, if the injury is like too much, it doesn't matter if it's healthy now, it will die.
		And so we were like, well, we don't want to kill it.
		Like, you know, and he was like, well, you shouldn't, you should bring it to us.
		And so we drove down to the keys where there was like a bird sanctuary or something.
		And then we were like, dropped it off.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I guess they killed it.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		So close.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Boo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, these things happen, but at least they tried.
		You know, that was cool.
		We called them and they were like, we'll see what we can do.
		We'll try to save the bird.
		It was big.
		It's a, you know, they're big birds.
		And it was like, it was walking around and running and we just like screwed it up.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm sad.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		You didn't tell me that part of the story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Andrew Gillings says, on leave flying from Okinawa to STL and the flight was oversold.
		They asked if I would take a different flight.
		I said, to Hawaii?
		They agreed.
		Called the guys I deployed with and we spent the night at a luau.
		You see, that's what I'm talking about.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I've been on flights where they're like, a hundred bucks, you know, at first they're like, who will volunteer?
		No one does.
		A hundred bucks to a volunteer?
		No one does.
		Two hundred?
		Four hundred?
		Eight hundred?
		Twelve hundred?
		No one did.
		Then finally they said, if no one accepts the voucher, we will force someone off the plane and you will lose your seat and it could be you.
		And still, no one would do it.
unidentified		Wow.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		You gotta give out trips to Hawaii.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I guess so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I guess everybody had to be somewhere.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was working and I'm like, I'm here on business.
		Like I, I'm not getting, I can't, I can't accept that.
		But think about how desperate they got.
		You could have been like, give me a first class to Hawaii and I'll take it.
		They would have been like done.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But it also makes no sense.
		Cause wouldn't it just be the person that's not sitting down that would lose the seat?
		Like why do they need somebody so badly to like switch with that person?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, because they have a hundred seats, but they sold 110.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right, but the 10 that aren't sitting are the ones who are, you know, here's your food voucher.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They assign the same seats to people.
		Yeah.
		Yeah, that happened to me once where I boarded the plane, and I went and sat down, and then someone came up and had the same seat as me.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right, but that guy's beat.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		It's like, what are you going to do?
unidentified		He won.
		I got in first!
		Yeah, you got there first.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because I always try to board first.
unidentified		I mean, this is a terrible business strategy, obviously, but... I think Southwest does that, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They tell you just to board and then you just go in and sit down.
		There was this great video, I think it's by CGP Grey, where he talks about how our boarding process makes no sense and it's a massive waste of time.
		He was saying, like, even if we boarded at random, just saying, go on in if you got a ticket, it would be faster than the way we do it now.
		But the issue is people don't want to board separately.
		They want to board with the people they're sitting next to, which makes the whole process cluttered.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Also, you get the people, they want to board the front of the plane first, like section one is the front, then two and three.
		Totally backwards, because then everyone's stuck in the front, people have to wade through the crowd.
		You want to board the back of the plane first, section one, then a little one forward, then three, and then the front of the plane last.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I think he said you want to do window seats, middle seats, aisle seats.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the fastest way to do it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Because what happens is if you do the back of the plane, then you'll still have people
		trying to put their bags up.
		Yeah.
		And then other people waiting because they got to put their bags in the same bins.
		Yeah.
		If you do aisle seats, they all go in and then go whoomp and then all and then middle
		rows they all go in at the same time and then whoomp.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if you do it by, yeah.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		The problem with that is that they'll run out of overhead space.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		And then nobody will want to sit in whatever the last one is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So whenever I would travel for work, when working for Vice, it was almost always first class.
		Not because they'd pay for it, but because you get upgraded.
		But it had to be.
		Because if I'm carrying a $30,000 camera with me, it has to go in the overhead.
		It can't be checked, it'll be destroyed, it can't go in a closet.
		And so it's like, I had to be up there, standing in the front of the line, ready to go in.
		Otherwise, you don't get on the plane.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't put the cameras in the... You can't check back the cameras.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They'd break them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see.
		Horse Dude says, people who are going to be evicted because they didn't pay rent should have used the unemployment bonus, the COVID relief money.
		People knew they didn't need to pay a dime from the eviction moratoriums put in place.
		Yeah, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't have, you know, maybe their unemployment benefits weren't covering the full cost of their rent.
		Imagine you made six figures.
		And then your business shuts down because of the lockdowns.
		And then all you get is this unemployment check, which is supplemental, so you're still getting a decent amount.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you can't pay your rent.
		A couple grand per month, and you're like, yikes, man.
		I need a job.
		Or imagine you were making even more than that.
		They cap unemployment at a certain level, so the supplemental plus your cap could still not be enough for a lot of people.
		That's why I was saying when they were doing the stimulus, they were like, we're gonna cut people off who make more than X amount of dollars per year, and I was like, that's wrong.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's like, I don't like the idea of just giving rich people free money, but I also recognize if somebody was making 120k in New York, they're not considered middle class median because New York's cost of living is so high, and they probably had a moderately expensive, you know, rent, that these stimulus checks will do nothing to help them cover their costs.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It also makes no sense because they used the figures the year before the pandemic.
		So, like, people who, like, were living the same life, maybe even better, saving money, staying home, got checks, while people who, you know, had made money at a different time did not get the checks.
		And it just, yeah, it made no sense.
		They should have given to people who needed it.
		But, you know, we can't do that.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Nah, that doesn't make sense.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		WoodworkerAnon says, wait, so Pelosi is in charge of the police at the Capitol?
		So would she have been in charge of security on the... But there was no backup that day?
		Did she know it was coming?
		Not like she had anything to gain.
		I'm pretty sure it was Kash Patel said he offered, they offered, what did they offer?
		National Guard.
		And they turned it down a few days before.
		And there's that video of the guy going to the cops saying, why aren't you doing anything about this?
		Like, where are the police?
		So...
		Not that she's in charge of it, but because she's a Speaker of the House, what's being insinuated is she went to the police and said, these are the rules, the House is saying you have to wear masks, and the cops were like, okay, we'll arrest anybody who doesn't, but not on the Senate side, because that means the Senate side didn't make that request.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Science.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
		Nicholas Gay says, I appreciate a lot of what you do.
		Tim and gang.
		Having folks on like Bannon, Schnatter, Poso, who are vilified by the media, you're able to show how brilliant these individuals are.
		Leaves me speechless.
		Like Michael Mills' book.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, clever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, but you gotta realize, like, we're, we're, uh, we're getting, we get smeared by the press.
		It's hilarious.
		And like, there's like some hit pieces coming.
		I just ignore it.
		I don't care.
		Um, next Tuesday.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're confirmed on all this, right?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		We are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Charlie Kirk and Vosch.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So there's like this thing happening on Twitter where they're like, Charlie Kirk, you should go debate this like socialist guy.
		Put your money where your mouth is.
		And I'm like, but he already he already agreed to do it.
		We're going to do a show here with Charlie and Vosch.
		And Vosch is a socialist and we're going to have that conversation.
		It'll be a fun time.
		So I don't think Charlie's scared.
		He immediately agreed.
		It's not so easy to say he immediately agreed in the sense that there's still business logistics.
		But when he was here, I was like, hey man, would you want to come on when we have Vaush on?
		He was like, yeah, that'd be great.
		Let's see if we can figure it out.
		And then we found a date, and then we communicated with both, and they were both really excited and very professional about it.
		And I imagine it's going to be...
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Spicy?
unidentified		Spicy.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		It's gonna be great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, maybe we'll get to... No, I think it'll be fun.
		I think a lot of people make assumptions that it's gonna be like WWE.
		And we've had a few different leftist personalities here.
		Not as many as like right, because it's harder to do.
		But I think we've had maybe like three or four.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's always fairly normal.
		You know, it's not crazy.
		Destiny was great.
		He's a smart guy, you know?
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		He is that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		In high school, we had the most eclectic group of friends.
		Like, super liberal, crazy, super conservative, crazy.
		Like, we all got along so well because we just liked the same stuff.
		We liked magic cards and video games and pizza.
		Let's go back to that.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Finding the same thing's funny.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		That's gotta be, like, top priority.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		I completely agree.
		Making the same jokes and memes.
		Come on, man.
		Let's go back.
unidentified		Oof.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see.
		Okay, we read that one.
		Where are we at?
		What was I just reading?
		Uh, yes.
		Rocky says, try offering an ultra-woke celebrity five grand to their favorite leftist cause if they will put on a MAGA hat.
		Then watch the virtue signal dissonance.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		It's tough.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a good one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Michael Irwin says, hey guys, would love to see y'all do the D&D show, Look Up Harmon Quest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a funny show ran by Dan Harmon and features a different person each show.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That sounds cool.
		I reckon Morty's funny.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		John Marafa says, NPR equals, uh, dash, national propaganda radio.
		That's right.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		I can see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Joe Harris says, look at the FedEx logo between the E and the X at the arrow.
		Now you will see it each time.
		The curse of the arrow.
		You're welcome.
		That was, that was the plan.
		That's why they did it.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		That's not that bad.
		It's okay.
		I like it.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll get a couple more in here.
		Let's see what we got here.
		Uh-oh.
		Atherill says they just put Dave Rubin in Twitter jail.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		They did, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I was thinking about something.
		The Brandy Love story.
		You know the Brandy Love story?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She went to Turning Point USA and they kicked her out.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm seeing a lot of people say that, like, you know, oh, it's the conservatives are losing an ally.
		And, you know, I'm seeing a lot of people mention that they're, like, on Brandy's side of this and they shouldn't have been kicked out.
		And I'm like, I guess it doesn't matter what your profession is if you're attending an event.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I suppose what they're saying is that she was posting and like promoting and stuff and that she wasn't clarifying.
		She was just an attendee.
		But regardless, it was an event for minors.
		And then I was thinking about this and I was like, I was talking to a friend of mine who is, you know, talking about it was wrong.
		Conservatives should be criticized for this.
		And I was like, Dave Rubin banned porn on locals.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's, like, actually kind of crazy to me.
		Because Locals is supposed to be your own community with your own rules, where you own it, you control it, and you can't get shut down, but he overtly bans porn.
		You know?
		I get it.
		You know, it's bad for the brand, I suppose.
unidentified		Yeah?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if Locals is supposed to be, like, a semi-decentralized node system where you control your own page, that's not even, like, hate speech or anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's just, like, adult content.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's just so easy to get, you know, into an issue with it.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It could be somebody underage, it could be somebody who didn't consent, like, you know, it's just too many, like... But couldn't he just say that if we suspect it of being a violation of the law, we'll remove it, but we allow all other forms of adult entertainment?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, there was the story where, you know, Backpage was disappeared because they, you know, weren't policing the ads on it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure, but Dave could say, we will police adult content if we believe it breaks the law, which we will err on the side of and still allow it.
		It's branding to not allow it.
		Because you could say like, oh, we don't ban hate speech.
		We allow people to come in and say whatever they want.
		What if in the event someone actually calls for violence and instructs people?
		You'd have to police that.
		You'd have to remove it.
		That's a violation of their rules.
		So I'm not saying he's right or wrong to have done it.
		I'm just saying it's interesting that a lot of libertarian-type individuals were critical of Turning Point USA over this.
		And I'm like, I don't know.
		There's a lot of websites that ban this, including locals.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a big debate.
		We had it at Mines a lot.
		Like, whether or not the original idea of Bill was like, yeah, we should have anything that's legal should be on the site.
		You just need to granularly be able to navigate without getting bombarded by porn or violence or whatever or racism.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		But it's just hard to tell what's legal, you know?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Especially with porn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see.
		Let's do this one more.
		What is this?
		TheTDY says, could mandating vaccines benefit small businesses not run by big corporations mandating vaccine?
		I could see this taking business from a Starbucks and move it to a local coffee business.
		Would be funny.
		Interesting.
		If the smaller business says that it's easy, free, and open, and the big chains say no, then that might actually happen.
		But we'll see.
		How about this?
		We're going to go over to TimCast.com to the Members Only segment, which should be up around 11, and talk about the Forbidden Wall Street Journal article.
		that YouTube would not permit, but we're going to talk about it.
		It's very important, among other things.
		So go to TimCast.com, become a member.
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		And Carol, do you want to shout anything out?
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		No, thank you so much for having me.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		This was really great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Your Twitter account, maybe?
unidentified		It's at Carol, K-A-R-O-L.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, you've been on since the beginning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, not, you know.
karol markowicz ▲ ● ▼		2007?
		No, no.
		I actually wasn't that early.
		I was not that early an adopter.
		I somehow snagged it.
unidentified		Wow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Impressive.
		You can follow me at IanCrossland.net and at Ian Crossland.
		And I want to shout out Dr. Ace Thayer from SoCal Chiropractic, a YouTube channel that I absolutely love.
		He's got magic hands.
		He fixes people's spines on the daily.
		And go subscribe to his channel and check that out if you like watching people get their bodies fixed.
lydia smith ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
		You guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.
		I am about to adopt a cat tomorrow, and I will be posting all sorts of adventures.
		He's an ornery little stinker, so it's gonna be fun.
		His name is Dip.
		I am buying that dip, and I am stoked.
		And my goal is to have more followers than Sour Patch Kids, so by all means, help me with that.
		Thanks, guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We will see you all at TimCast.com in the Members Only podcast segment.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		We'll see you there.

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