July 20, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Peace. | ||
| New information has come out, and you know what? | ||
| I'm not even gonna give you my thoughts. | ||
| I'm gonna give you the thoughts of BuzzFeed News, who analyzed a report on this, saying that this latest information that's come out about this supposed right-wing plot raises questions as to whether or not there would have even been a conspiracy were it not for the FBI, as they had had a hand in every aspect of it. | ||
| Including its inception. | ||
| Now, BuzzFeed gets extremely close to saying basically the FBI started it, organized the people, set up the meetings, and essentially told people what to do. | ||
| And now many of these defendants are arguing that they were set up. | ||
| Some are even arguing entrapment. | ||
| Now, how many people are surprised by this? | ||
| How many people commented on my video when I report on this saying, Tim, I bet you it's the FBI and I was too, uh, I don't, I don't think I entertained it enough. | ||
| I'm not, I'm not big on, uh, I guess as much as people try to claim that I predict the future all the time, I, I only see so far. | ||
| So I had a bunch of people commenting, they're like, this reeks of an FBI sting of a setup. | ||
| And this is what the FBI is known for. | ||
| I mean, they do it so often. | ||
| Some people have argued that basically what they do is they find some mentally unwell people, goad them on, set them up, and then say, oh, look what we found! | ||
| And then some person ends up in prison, and they can claim that they did something important. | ||
| And it was, I guess, effective politically for Democrats to say, oh no, look at these right-wing extremists, which helped fuel this fire of the right and the white supremacists and the militias being the most dangerous threat in this country. | ||
| So why now? | ||
| Why is this story coming out? | ||
| Why is anyone in the mainstream media entertaining this? | ||
| I guess we'll have to dig into it and start talking about what's really going on. | ||
| We also got some other stories too. | ||
| It turns out, you know, I did a segment at 4 p.m. | ||
| over on my main channel, Timcast, or I should say my solo channel, Timcast, and talking about this Texas Democrat super spreader event where these Democrats from Texas go to D.C. | ||
| and a bunch of people get COVID. | ||
| We got new reporting out that several staffers, several aides, A ton of people who were at this Democrat Texas thing are getting COVID. | ||
| Even fully vaccinated people. | ||
| So I gotta say, it's a super spreader event. | ||
| It was irresponsible and let's call it that double standard. | ||
| So we'll get into that. | ||
| We'll talk about a bunch of other stuff. | ||
| We got some AOCs in the news because she's selling merchandise and doesn't know what capitalism is. | ||
| So we can talk about what capitalism is. | ||
| And joining us today is Pedro Gonzalez, associate editor of Chronicles, a magazine on American culture, I believe. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Do you want to just quickly introduce yourself? | ||
| Yeah, I'm happy to be here. | ||
| I Yeah, it's been surreal the last few I guess like the last like six months I've been doing a bunch of these different shows and I'm I Appreciate you bringing me on. | ||
| I saw that you threw up a tweet of mine recently I think it was maybe critical of like porn or transgenderism. | ||
| I don't know But when I saw that you put that on your show, I thought like it's a matter of time before I get on What is Chronicles magazine Oh yeah, so it was founded in 1977 and it has always been this kind of outside, dissident voice, not just in things that are political but also literary. | ||
| And for years it has been kind of like the lone voice in the wilderness of populism. | ||
| It was, for a time, the intellectual flagship of the Buchanan movement. | ||
| It explained and justified Buchananism. | ||
| Many of the same arguments in Chronicles that were developed there actually ended up being completely seamless with the Trump movement. | ||
| Rush Limbaugh read an article by a guy named Sam Francis who wrote an article for Chronicles in, I think, the early 90s. | ||
| And Limbaugh read it, I think in 2015, to explain the Trump phenomenon. | ||
| So it's a small magazine, but it punches way above its weight. | ||
| And they have been basically right for the last 30 or 40 years. | ||
| And it seems like the rest of the country is kind of just catching up. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| So we'll get into all that stuff. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We got Ian chillin'. | ||
| What's up everybody? | ||
| Ian Crosland over here. | ||
| Just sippin' on some coffee with a little collagen and maybe we'll get into that in a little bit. | ||
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| And I am also here in the corner. | ||
| Ian was trying to get ahead of us by asking Peter all these cool questions. | ||
| As I do. | ||
| So I hope we get into all of that stuff tonight. | ||
| Right on! | ||
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| Let's talk about this first story. | ||
| We got this from The Week. | ||
| Defendants in alleged Whitmer kidnapping plot are arguing FBI informants engineered plan. | ||
| Now, I'll just say this. | ||
| I mean, that's a heavy piece of what we're going to talk about. | ||
| It's one thing to make that accusation. | ||
| It's another thing when BuzzFeed News of all outlets comes out and says there are questions as to whether or not there would have even been a conspiracy were it not for the FBI, and then there's questions of law. | ||
| Do you think that federal prosecutors are going to drop this case simply because it's now being exposed by the media? | ||
| Maybe not, but it's possible. | ||
| I just really doubt it. | ||
| There's not going to be political willpower, and especially when Democrats want to use this to their advantage. | ||
| But let me show you this. | ||
| So this is the story from the week, right? | ||
| And they're basically pointing out the section of the BuzzFeed article about the defendant | ||
| saying they're accusing the FBI of effectively orchestrating this. | ||
| BuzzFeed News says, an examination of the case by BuzzFeed News also reveals some of | ||
| those informants, of which they were 12, acting under the direction of the FBI played a far | ||
| larger role than has previously been reported. | ||
| Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. | ||
| Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. | ||
| The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them. | ||
| I'll do you one better, BuzzFeed. | ||
| I can appreciate that they put that in there. | ||
| That is an opinion, however. | ||
| But I can give my opinion. | ||
| When you go on to mention that a long-time government informant helped organize a series of meetings around the country where many of the alleged plotters first met one another, yeah, there wouldn't be without the FBI. | ||
| They set the meetings. | ||
| So, okay, look. | ||
| The FBI is going to argue, hey, hey, hey, we gave them the space and we, we, we made those statements, but they made those choices. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What do you guys, what do you guys, what do you guys think? | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| I think it's only, it's, it's, it's incitement unless the FBI is doing it. | ||
| Apparently it's only illegal unless the president does it. | ||
| Like, come on. | ||
| Trump, Trump didn't say anything anywhere near as, as, as crazy as these people were saying. | ||
| If the FBI goes to somebody that's mentally unstable and puts a gun in their hand and says, encourages them or points them in the direction of someone that they want, like that's, how can you blame that? | ||
| I guess you gotta blame the gunman, but obviously you blame Charles Manson when the other guy went out and stabbed the people. | ||
| They were giving these guys military training. | ||
| What? | ||
| What do you think about it, Pedro? | ||
| This is what the FBI does. | ||
| I mean, this is what the Feds do. | ||
| They create these plots. | ||
| They provide the training, the logistical coordination, and then they basically entrap their victims. | ||
| And so the question is, why do they do that, right? | ||
| I think there are different answers to that. | ||
| I think, one, it's politically useful because Trump is bad. | ||
| Trump was a fascist, of course. | ||
| I'm just being sarcastic. | ||
| But I think so. | ||
| It's politically useful from that angle, at least for the Democratic Party. | ||
| But on the other hand, I mean, this is this is good business for the FBI, right? | ||
| This is job security. | ||
| If you have these kinds of threats, if you have these kinds of coordinated, very dangerous, highly motivated actors, then you you need the FBI. | ||
| You don't just need the FBI. | ||
| The FBI needs a bigger budget. | ||
| It needs to expand its operations into different aspects of not just public life, but also private life. | ||
| It needs to know more about what Americans are doing so that it can make sure that these things don't happen. | ||
| And the fact that the FBI is, you know, the driving cause of these things happening, well, that's just a little footnote that we don't need to really get into. | ||
| I don't think there's a solution to... I don't think there's an easy solution to corruption. | ||
| I say easy solution. | ||
| You know, I'm thinking about like, okay, what if we didn't have government FBI, right? | ||
| What if we had private investigatory agencies and you hired them instead of having to go and make a petition and cross your fingers, hope they actually look into the case? | ||
| Maybe you go and hire a company. | ||
| Well then, any company could be incentivized to do criminal activities for the sake of making money. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So let's say you're a window repair company and, you know, you're a private company. | ||
| You make money when windows get broken. | ||
| Certainly excited when you hear Antifa's rioting. | ||
| So any individual who is sufficiently corrupt or who has monopolistic power could be susceptible to saying, okay, how can we encourage more riots and support some more of this activism and encourage this stuff? | ||
| Because inadvertently it allows us to sell more windows. | ||
| Actually, Ryan Long had that comedy segment. | ||
| Have you seen that one where it's like Antifa window repair and he's like, we're both simultaneously Antifa and the window repair company. | ||
| But anyway, I digress. | ||
| When you have the FBI and they have a monopoly on this and they want to make money and increase their budgets, there's one way to do it. | ||
| You need a large and powerful big bang. | ||
| Well, here you go. | ||
| They had a dozen informants. | ||
| So it's an interesting point. | ||
| What is entrapment? | ||
| This probably is not entrapment. | ||
| Entrapment would be when you coerce someone by force or threats. | ||
| So if a cop went to you and said, if you don't do this, I'll hit you, that's entrapment. | ||
| If they said, hey, wouldn't it be really awesome if you did this, you should totally do it. | ||
| That's not entrapment. | ||
| You still chose to do it. | ||
| The problem is, there's a fine line, right? | ||
| I mean, you actually have the FBI now creating the means, providing the resources. | ||
| These things can't happen without them. | ||
| Like, who's gonna give military training to a bunch of random meme-ish posters on the internet? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| No, it gets into this question, like you said, these blurred lines, right, where it's kind of like choice architecture. | ||
| You're laying out all of the instruments and arguments and logistics for doing this. | ||
| And you're also exploiting people who are desperate and angry and maybe mentally unstable. | ||
| And your defense is, well, I just put the gun on the table. | ||
| I don't have any responsibility for what that person did afterwards after I told them to use the gun and how to use it and who they should use it on. | ||
| It's not my fault. | ||
| Ian made a good point, man. | ||
| It's incitement. | ||
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It is. | |
| It seems like incitement. | ||
| I mean, they're they're they're encouraging them or getting them revved up or connecting them to commit a crime. | ||
| It seemed like. | ||
| Let me let me let me pull this part of the BuzzFeed article. | ||
| They say this. | ||
| They say Dan steered. | ||
| Let me move back a little bit. | ||
| Let me move back so I can get to that point in the context. | ||
| They say as agents in Pola and Chambers listen in, Dan pressed him about the meeting in Ohio. | ||
| Ohio. | ||
| Dublin, Fox said, was about changing the paradigm the media treated patriots unfairly after | ||
| he and hundreds of other patriots occupied the statehouse in Lansing, they f-ing called | ||
| us domestic terrorists. | ||
| We want to take that stigma off and let them know who we are because we are not f-ing racists. | ||
| We are not white nationalists, said Fox. | ||
| We just want our effing constitution upheld and we want all these lawless effing tyrants out of effing power. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| Dan steered the conversation away from rhetoric to specific plans. | ||
| Asking Fox what the mission was. | ||
| Like, what are we looking to go forward with? | ||
| Laughing, Fox said his dream was to have quote, have the governor hogtied down on a table for public display the way the DEA agents spread gun seized and drug spread seized guns and drugs across the table like trophies after a big bust. | ||
| Quote, we take the building and then take effing hostages, Fox told Dan. | ||
| It's effing wartime. | ||
| But by his own admission, Fox, despite his new seemingly grand military title, was a general without soldiers. | ||
| I can't do nothing with less than 200 men, he complained to Dan. | ||
| At best, he figured he could muster maybe 15 to 20 men. | ||
| Stopping violent ideas like this was what Dan said drove him to law enforcement in the first place. | ||
| But now, with his two FBI agents at his side, he told Fox he would help. | ||
| They're effectively inciting and encouraging their creative circumstances. | ||
| It's incitement. | ||
| Donald Trump can say, we're going to go peacefully march and listen to some politicians or whatever. | ||
| That's what he said, right? | ||
| He had something like, you know, have politicians make arguments. | ||
| And then as Trump was speaking, the people at the Capitol started pushing the barricades down, fighting with cops, storming their way up to the Capitol and fighting at the front door. | ||
| Donald Trump did not do anything near what this is, but they say, there was a tweet now, I can't, I think it was the Daily Beast, I'm not sure, they were like, Trump's failed attempt to overthrow the government, or like someone, some news outlet tweeted that, like they're just, even the media, they're just continually escalating what really happened on the 6th, like Donald Trump gave a speech where he in no way said, go do this stuff, he was like, peacefully march, and now they've just slowly turned it into something totally different, like the Lincoln Project made this video, Where it's a mishmash of what Trump was saying to make it seem like he was calling for violence. | ||
| I tell you, man, it's dark days ahead, huh? | ||
| Well, there's something related to this. | ||
| So we can say that the Capitol Police failed, right? | ||
| On January 6th, they failed to do their job. | ||
| Some conservatives argue that they facilitated what happened through their failure, however you want to slice it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, Tucker says the FBI had informants there probably orchestrated as well. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| So we'll grant that. | ||
| So these people, either out of negligence or malice, they're part of the reason why January 6th happened. | ||
| OK. | ||
| So what happens after January 6? | ||
| Well, the Capitol Police has a $2 billion budget with which they plan to expand operations outside of the Capitol, first in Florida and California, two of the most populous states, with plans to open field offices across the country. | ||
| They've also borrowed eight, they're called persistent surveillance systems from the U.S. | ||
| government. | ||
| The Army is going to train Capitol Police to use these. | ||
| We first deployed this technology in Iraq and Afghanistan to monitor asymmetric threats. | ||
| In other words, we use this technology against insurgents. | ||
| So now Capitol Police, which is supposed to be in the Capitol, is expanding operations across the United States, ostensibly to protect members of Congress. | ||
| And they're also going to be deploying technology that we used against insurgents on Americans in order to... What this stuff does is you can create, I think it's called, pattern of life. | ||
| It allows you to monitor people on a very intimate level to figure out, you know, where they eat, where they sleep, where they go, what their routines are, and things like that. | ||
| But over large geographical swaths. | ||
| This is not like a little camera, right? | ||
| This is huge surveillance on a mass level. | ||
| This is fine, apparently. | ||
| No one really seems to have a problem with it, and people are buying the argument that, no, the Capitol Police needs to do this. | ||
| They need to expand operations to these huge states, or actually to as many states as they want, and they also need to deploy military good equipment that we used on insurgents against Americans. | ||
| Mike Cernovich has been tweeting about this, saying that he often hears someone start trying to ramp up the rhetoric and push it towards some kind of direct physical action, and he always shuts them down. | ||
| He blocks them or he kicks them out. | ||
| Because he's like, we don't want any of that. | ||
| We know where that's going. | ||
| And he's right. | ||
| I keep telling people, you know, peaceful, persuasive, resourceful, that's how you win a culture war, that's how you maintain your country. | ||
| And there's two big problems, and one, conservatives, people on the right, the anti-establishment, the anti-woke, disaffected liberals. | ||
| Well, I'm going to exclude the disaffected liberals. | ||
| Mostly the right, as we've traditionally known it, very weak on culture. | ||
| Very weak. | ||
| I mean, you know, people mock the religious conservative movie productions and things like that. | ||
| The Daily Wire is doing a pretty good job getting into this. | ||
| The one big advantage I think conservatives have right now are disaffected liberals, many of whom were in music production and movie production and show production. | ||
| Culture building wins you the youth. | ||
| And 10 years from now, there's going to be another generation entering politics. | ||
| And what 10-year-olds are being inundated with today is going to severely impact what politics will look like in 10 years. | ||
| So one thing that we saw I bring up every so often is that, you know, we've had some leftists, some younger leftists on the show. | ||
| And they have no idea what Occupy Wall Street was. | ||
| They were young teenagers when that was happening and just had no understanding of what was going on. | ||
| So now when I base my disdain for Joe Biden off of a lot of the Obama era, | ||
| they're like, I don't know anything about that. | ||
| Now you look at what's happening with children and the indoctrination at schools. | ||
| These kids who are in these schools getting indoctrinated 10 years from now are gonna vote | ||
| as far left as humanly possible. | ||
| If conservatives and people on the right don't fight back with persuasive resourcefulness, | ||
| With resourcefulness, with persuasion, being peaceful, and building culture, you lose. | ||
| Especially when you see what's going on with the FBI. | ||
| They are looking for any opportunity to take that frustration, turn it into some kind of expressed desire for action, and then lock you up. | ||
| And then it gives them even more justification for indoctrinating kids. | ||
| It's just one after another. | ||
| One, two, three, punch. | ||
| Yeah, I think maybe one example of a positive development in the culture is that movie about Richard Jewell. | ||
| The security guard who was basically screwed by the FBI after he managed to save a ton of people. | ||
| I think it was at a baseball game. | ||
| It was some kind of a sporting event where there was a bomb and basically the feds put it on him. | ||
| They argued that the reason he was able to find the bomb and save all these people was because he had in fact planted it. | ||
| And the movie was interesting because Richard Jewell is like your average middle American. | ||
| He's this guy who doesn't have a college degree. | ||
| He's just patriotic. | ||
| Kind of naive about his country. | ||
| And I mean that in a good way. | ||
| And here he is being absolutely railroaded by these horrible corrupt feds, right? | ||
| And I think that that movie was really interesting precisely because of that. | ||
| You have this patriotic person who's being persecuted by his own government. | ||
| You do not talk to police. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's simple. | ||
| There's a famous Supreme Court Justice, I can't remember his name, a long time ago, said, do not talk to cops. | ||
| And it's funny, there are a lot of conservatives that seem to think they're very naive about what this country is. | ||
| And it's funny when you see the very heavy back of the blue, like, attitudes kind of waning a little bit with the COVID lockdowns and stuff. | ||
| People are, you know, many people on the right are starting to realize, like, I think, you know what, man? | ||
| We shout out Michael Malice too much. | ||
| Michael, you can shout out too much. | ||
| But he often says that there is no law so, you know, absurd or disgusting or amoral that a cop would not enforce it. | ||
| Now, that may be a bit extreme, because I certainly think there's many things a cop wouldn't do, to be honest. | ||
| However, the Proud Boys versus Antifa was a really good example of this. | ||
| That they got into a fight because Antifa had been harassing patrons, one guy gets robbed, and then finally the Proud Boys are like, alright, you wanna fight? | ||
| A lot of people see the Proud Boys run towards Antifa. | ||
| But Antifa had been basically at every corner following them, and as much as they keep trying to walk away, they see Antifa at every corner. | ||
| Eventually, the Proud Boys decide they're going to engage. | ||
| Well, first of all, that's a mistake. | ||
| Don't start fights. | ||
| You can try and go around them. | ||
| You can try and walk past them. | ||
| They run at them. | ||
| A fight breaks out. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, if Antifa shows up, they're known to be violent, and a fight breaks out, we can argue that sometimes fights happen. | ||
| I still think it's wrong. | ||
| But what happened after that? | ||
| Antifa flees. | ||
| The Proud Boys decide to give a statement to the cops. | ||
| Because we trust the cops, the cops are the good guys, and now guess who went to prison? | ||
| Proud Boys. | ||
| Antifa? | ||
| None of them. | ||
| Yeah, no, this is, I think you're right, this is a kind of eye-opening moment where basically what we've seen for the last year or so is this kind of a narco-tyranny where you're right, conservatives are right to say that there's this effort to kind of defang the police or at least get them to back off of policing a certain kind of crime and a certain kind of criminal. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that they're actually de-policing. | ||
| They're just focusing more on enforcing things like mask mandates or, like you said, arresting Proud Boys and people like that. | ||
| A good example is this guy Jonathan Pentland. | ||
| He's a drill instructor at a base in the South, the specific state of Louisiana right now. | ||
| But basically, this guy got into a confrontation with a suspect who happened to be black. | ||
| This guy was like a repeat offender in the neighborhood. | ||
| What you didn't hear from the stories that broke was that this guy had repeatedly come into this neighborhood and harassed people and specifically had grabbed young women. | ||
| Made them feel very uncomfortable. | ||
| There's a claim that he's like mentally unstable. | ||
| Whatever, okay. | ||
| But here's the part that the news really didn't focus on, was that the police had actually known about this guy, and they let him out. | ||
| They knew that he was walking about, but the argument was, we didn't want to make him a statistic. | ||
| So when people would report him to us, we would kind of slap him on the wrist and let him go, and he would go back into this community and harass people. | ||
| So one day, a woman goes and gets this guy, Jonathan Pentland, and says he's back, you know, do something about it. | ||
| And he goes and confronts the guy, and I don't know if you saw the video, but it goes viral, he says you're in the wrong neighborhood. | ||
| He's really confrontational, for right reason, because there was things that happened leading up to that. | ||
| The police absolutely destroyed Jonathan Pentland's life. | ||
| They crucified him. | ||
| Within 48 hours there were people at his house throwing things through the window. | ||
| The military completely disavowed him. | ||
| His own unit framed him as a white extremist, a white supremacist. | ||
| Like the guy's reputation is ruined. | ||
| And he was just like a middle-aged guy who saw someone harassing women. | ||
| Doing the job that cops wouldn't do because the cops were more concerned with avoiding the stigma of being called racist and doing their jobs. | ||
| This is the perfect example of why I have been saying abolish the police. | ||
| And it is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but not completely. | ||
| The point I'm trying to make is, if we are really moving into this era where the police know we can't go after anybody who might be defended by the left because we don't want to deal with it and we'll lose our budgets, but we can arrest anybody on the right all day and night and get praised for it, then what do you think is going to happen? | ||
| In this instance, the cops, they knew. | ||
| They knew who this guy was. | ||
| They don't care about this guy, John Petlin's life, who seemed to be, according to this story, a regular guy who was like, these young women in my neighborhood are being harassed by this guy, I'm gonna make it stop. | ||
| And I watched that video and I'm like, what did the guy really do? | ||
| He like, got up to him and said, back off, back off, get out of here, and pushed him. | ||
| Shouldn't have shoved him. | ||
| Push, pushed him when he was walking towards his wife, which was actually the thing that the police, the sheriff, uh, the, I don't know, the sheriff chief, whatever said, that's, that's like the evidence right there for, for ruining this guy's life is the fact that he, he shoved him. | ||
| What of course, but you see in that video is that the guy starts approaching his wife. | ||
| He's, he's like, he's, his wife says something to him and the guy starts walking towards him and steps on his property. | ||
| And that's when he shoves him and says, that's my wife. | ||
| And that's when the cops were like, that's, that's where he crossed the line when he shoved the guy. | ||
| You're saying like the cops ruin a Activists. | ||
| They do this. | ||
| For pushing someone. | ||
| Yes, because the left claimed he was racist for for shoving a young black man saying you're in the wrong neighborhood | ||
| So it's like social pressure that ruin this they used social pressure to try to ruin this activists politics | ||
| They do social pressure pushing because initially initially he got | ||
| It was basically the equivalent of like a citation because he slapped the guy's phone out of his hand, right? Okay, | ||
| but then Pressure is mounting | ||
| You know, there's this outrage in the community about this racist white man who's telling like a young black man he's in the wrong neighborhood. | ||
| And so so the police went back and said, oh, we have new evidence that shows that, you know, he shoved him. | ||
| It's like that's not new. | ||
| That was the video that went viral. | ||
| And that justifies. | ||
| Ultimately, the penalty was like it was like a short, like a few days in jail, like a five thousand dollar fine or something. | ||
| It was really small. | ||
| But that's that's nothing compared to the damage to this guy's reputation. | ||
| Like, the HOA where he lives disavowed him in a statement saying that racism has no home in this community. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| Like I said, the HOA, the police, the military, the media, as far as these entities that I just named are concerned, this guy is a vile racist who does not belong in polite society. | ||
| His life is ruined. | ||
| This is like, they say often that history doesn't repeat but it rhymes, you know, that phrase, but this is just such a great example of banishment, and how banishment has kind of come back around now, and now we have this social banishment, ostracization. | ||
| Conservatives need to call the bluff of the left. | ||
| They need to call the bluff and say, we hereby believe all cops should be abolished, and there's two reasons for it. | ||
| You see what they'll do to this guy? | ||
| You see what happens. | ||
| Anarcho-tyranny. | ||
| They will not enforce the laws to protect you, but they will enforce the law against you. | ||
| And the second reason is, y'all are gun owners. | ||
| Why are you worried about petty crime in your neighborhood and what the police are going to do about it? | ||
| If the left wants to abolish cops, if cops are then willing to ruin a man's life, not every single cop I know, Call their bluff. | ||
| Because how fast do you think... We saw this in Minneapolis. | ||
| When they were like, we want to abolish the police! | ||
| And then the city council was like, we hereby vote to abolish the police. | ||
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| Don't do it! | ||
| The city council members panicked and freaked out. | ||
| So I'll put it this way. | ||
| I've had leftists tweet like, Jim Poole only wants to abolish the police because he knows when the police are gone, the leftists will get really angry, or he thinks they will. | ||
| And I'm like, Well, that's partly correct. | ||
| I am 100% confident if the police actually got abolished, you will see every regular American wake up. | ||
| And that's one of the biggest problems. | ||
| Frogs boiling in a pot. | ||
| Conservatives can sit here all day and night and say, if we don't stop the tide from, the floodwaters from rising, if we don't put up sandbags, we will drown. | ||
| And people are sitting there just like, I don't care. | ||
| It's not flooding in my house. | ||
| And then within a month they're on the second floor being like, I don't care, I'm safe here | ||
| on the second floor. | ||
| Okay, call them on their bluff. | ||
| Say okay, look, I'll put it this way, the other side of this is, that may be partially | ||
| true that I definitely think the moment you actually try to abolish the police, regular | ||
| people will come out screaming, begging you to stop. | ||
| But the other issue is, exactly what we've been talking about. | ||
| It's only a matter of time before we see more police arrest regular people. | ||
| We saw with the McCloskeys. | ||
| People actually go onto their private property, go onto their lawns, and the McCloskeys come out. | ||
| Okay, they shouldn't have been brandishing the guns the way they were. | ||
| It was very ill-advised in that capacity. | ||
| But should they have been arrested, had their guns seized from them, and the cops will do it with no questions asked? | ||
| Then you have, in Wisconsin, this group of Black Lives Matter activists who had previously set fire to a home. | ||
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| In one day! | ||
| They started a house on fire. | ||
| I guess they came, put the fire out, and then after they leave, they went and set fire to it again. | ||
| Then you get this guy. | ||
| He's sitting in his house, and he sees this group. | ||
| He's got a shotgun, and he brandishes it at his window. | ||
| The window's closed. | ||
| The police show up, knock on his door, and arrest him. | ||
| And I'm like, so here you go. | ||
| Let it be known, okay? | ||
| If you think you will be spared by the police, you're insane. | ||
| You are insane. | ||
| We have seen on numerous occasions, that's three examples right now, that if Black Lives Matter comes to your home, and I said this before this guy got arrested, I said it's only a matter of time before Black Lives Matter will show up to your house, And the cops will look around and say, it is easier to arrest the homeowner than to deal with a riot. | ||
| And they will arrest you, who did nothing wrong in your own home. | ||
| Now we're seeing examples of this. | ||
| It was never going to be overnight. | ||
| It was going to be slowly and gradually, and it's going to get worse. | ||
| And if people just keep sitting back saying, eh, the cops are on my side, you're wrong. | ||
| 100% wrong. | ||
| It's interesting because Antifa, or let's call them black blocks, these thugs, right? | ||
| They think of themselves as these kind of revolutionary revolutionaries. | ||
| But in many ways, they're basically just state-sanctioned thugs. | ||
| And in that sense, I think of Lumpenproletariat, which was this term Marx used to describe people without any real sense of class consciousness. | ||
| The term he used is social scum. | ||
| as opposed to actual proletariat. | ||
| And they ultimately, because they're social scum and they really | ||
| just want to break things and they can't they're incapable of building | ||
| anything. And they're just a bunch of criminals and degenerates, which | ||
| is true. I mean, I'm talking about an antifa. | ||
| Right. OK. | ||
| So ultimately, what they end up being is tools of reactionary | ||
| And what he means by that is these are people who think that they're involved in something important, but they're not. | ||
| They're just being used by the state as kind of like, you know, like I said, state-sanctioned thugs. | ||
| Or, I mean, On the other hand, what Antifa does, Antifa window repair, this is great for the biggest, most powerful corporations in this country. | ||
| It's great for Amazon when the small brick-and-mortar business gets burned to the ground by Antifa. | ||
| It's great for Walmart when the small shop gets destroyed and incinerated during riots. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Jeff Bezos, at the same time that these riots were happening last year, and people were having their livelihoods eradicated, Jeff Bezos increased his worth by $13 billion in a single day. | ||
| And the reason for that is partly due to the fact that you could still buy from Amazon, but you couldn't go to the local mom-and-pop shop. | ||
| Big box stores were given special exemptions. | ||
| We saw this in Michigan, where like a local, I can't remember what it was, I think it was like a flowers and plant shop was shut down, but then the gardening area of Walmart is left open. | ||
| So they say, whoa, but Walmart sells food. | ||
| And a lot of people said, okay, should I sell loaves of bread at my hobby shop so I can stay open? | ||
| Well, that's the game that was being played. | ||
| The massive transfer of wealth. | ||
| But it wasn't just Democrat cities saying, we're going to destroy small businesses. | ||
| At the same time, you had mass unrest, thousands of people marching through the street, shoulder to shoulder. | ||
| And what did the media say? | ||
| What did the universities say? | ||
| What did the Democrat politicians say? | ||
| This is not spreading COVID. | ||
| Your business is shut down because a little old grandma walking in to buy milk could cause the apocalypse, but 2,000 people shoulder-to-shoulder marching through New York gets a round of applause from the doctors. | ||
| We see those stupid propaganda photos where the nurse is, like, standing in front of the car, and the woman in the car is saying, like, you know, honk for freedom or something. | ||
| And then all the people on the internet are like, look at these brave nurses fighting for us, stopping these stupid anti-lockdown protesters. | ||
| Then a video comes out. | ||
| People marching through New York, thousands, and nurses and doctors walk outside and start clapping for them. | ||
| And when questioned, they said, but racism is the real public health crisis. | ||
| I mean, this is another example of going back to this discussion about the FBI and the Capitol Police using these fabricated threats or these exaggerated threats to justify their budgets and their operations. | ||
| The CDC declared recently racism as a public health threat, and they tied it to the need for more funding. | ||
| I love it when the cops all took a knee at these protests. | ||
| Cops, FBI, National Guard. | ||
| And basically pledging fealty to the extremists. | ||
| And now we're seeing the implementation of what that ideology really means. | ||
| And Mark Milley, Joint Chiefs of Staff, saying like, you know, getting full woke, but I want to understand this stuff, he says. | ||
| And then you still have conservatives. | ||
| I'm watching, I can't remember what I was watching. | ||
| I was watching a live stream and people are yelling, back the blue. | ||
| And I'm like, man, Pay attention, dude. | ||
| Those people that you're defending took a knee for Black Lives Matter. | ||
| All right, support them, I guess. | ||
| This Capitol Police thing's concerning me. | ||
| So they got a $2 billion just recently? | ||
| I think the funding, yeah, the funding was in the last year or so. | ||
| But the point is, is they have a huge war chest. | ||
| Who do they serve? | ||
| Like, who do they report to? | ||
| Well, they're supposed to be serving their job is to protect members of Congress, right? | ||
| So, but I mean, this is kind of like, I don't know, whatever the local police department here is. | ||
| And then they say, we're going national, and we're expanding our operations nationwide. | ||
| And we're also going to be bringing in army equipment. | ||
| So are they federal? | ||
| Yeah, it's a federal- I'm actually not sure if they're technically- They're federal, yes. | ||
| It's a federal police force that they're expanding. | ||
| They're a federal police force, but they're supposed to be relegated to the Capitol. | ||
| This is like the Stasi, man. | ||
| The Stasi, Poe, the SS. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, you have the- I mean, Stasi- It's not like it, it just sounds like it could become something like that. | ||
| The only issue with the Stasi thing is that you already have the NSA, CIA, the FBI, and about 17 other members to choose from. | ||
| This could be the inception of a federal-level police force intelligence agency beyond FPS or ICE. | ||
| That's the concern. | ||
| We have this quote. | ||
| This is from Newsweek reporting on a press release from Capitol Police. | ||
| Throughout the last six months, the U.S. | ||
| Capitol Police has been working around the clock with our congressional stakeholders to support our officers, enhance security around the Capitol complex, and pivot towards an intelligence-based protective agency, the department said in a news release on Tuesday. | ||
| This was about two weeks ago. | ||
| So California, Florida, planning offices around the country. | ||
| Like you were mentioning earlier, Ian, the Mark Twain quote, history doesn't repeat it rhymes. | ||
| We look back at the easiest example of authoritarianism that is overused by millions of people, World War II Germany, the burning of the Reichstag. | ||
| Yeah, and then you had the Enabling Act, and then all of a sudden these sweeping laws were enacted. | ||
| Opponents of the party were being rounded up. | ||
| You know, look, a lot of people want to say things like, it can't happen here, right? | ||
| Oh, it can happen. | ||
| Even BuzzFeed is now saying that this Whitmer plot may not even have happened were it not for the FBI. | ||
| And I think that's an actually unfair assessment. | ||
| I think the fair assessment is it would not have happened were it not for the FBI. | ||
| We're looking at the Capitol Police in response to 1-6. | ||
| We get these news outlets tweeting, Donald Trump's failed attempt to overthrow the government. | ||
| Like, they're just using the most psychotic language. | ||
| And now we have the law enforcement apparatus being constructed. | ||
| Am I supposed to sit here and assume this is not going to be like every past authoritarian regime that has used a crisis to create an ideological law enforcement force? | ||
| Or do I see them screaming of the insurrection and then expanding Capitol Police nationwide and think to myself, this is a federal police force that is going to be acting like an intelligence-based protective agency How long until they start going after material support for the insurrectionists? | ||
| How long until they start going after the incitement of the insurrectionists? | ||
| Hey, incitement's a crime, right? | ||
| It's happening now. | ||
| In Michigan, Whitmer State, you have the Attorney General, I think Dana Nestle is her name, and Republicans supported this, by the way, but there's now an effort to investigate people who are fundraising on what they, on what A.G. | ||
| Nestle says are false claims about the election being stolen. | ||
| In effect, this could criminalize fundraising efforts to secure an independent election audit in Michigan. | ||
| This is a grassroots movement that the Attorney General is talking about potentially criminalizing. | ||
| So what they're basically trying to argue is that if you fundraise off of it, it's fraud. | ||
| It's fraud. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So using the pretext of fraud to potentially crack down on legitimate grassroots effort to secure an election. | ||
| This is in line with the federal level with Jen Psaki saying that they're working with phone companies. | ||
| Well, she didn't say this, but they're working with Facebook. | ||
| We got different reports on Politico that the Biden admin and the DNC are working with phone companies to police misinformation. | ||
| You know, uh, Peter Doocy. | ||
| I said Steve Doocy accidentally. | ||
| Peter Doocy. | ||
| Steve is the guy who's dead, I think. | ||
| Peter Doocy made a really, really good point when he was getting into that exchange with Jen Psaki. | ||
| He said, there is a video of Dr. Fauci from 2020 saying not to wear masks, and it's still on Facebook right now. | ||
| Should that be removed? | ||
| And she immediately Yeah. | ||
| defended Dr. Fauci. Well, Dr. Fauci has said the science changed and we all know. And then | ||
| he said, aren't you scared that information you would have removed today could turn out | ||
| to be correct? | ||
| Yeah, that's that. That's the principled position. But you see, when people want power, they | ||
| need to stifle and suppress and control. So here we go, man. | ||
| Nestle, by the way, is right. | ||
| She's the woman who when this woman whose restaurant was being | ||
| affected by the lockdown started to make a lot of noise about | ||
| it and Fox was contacting her about bringing her on to the on to talk Carlson show. | ||
| Nestle was the woman who was asking police if they could quote just have her picked up before she can go on Fox. | ||
| Her emails got leaked to the press and the dating shows that | ||
| after this woman, I don't remember her name right now was making a bunch of noise, but the lockdowns and how it's | ||
| affecting business after that Nestle sent an email saying can we just | ||
| have her picked up before before she can go on Fox. | ||
| So this woman actually goes on Fox, goes on Tucker Carlson's show, and a few days after that, she's actually arrested. | ||
| What was she arrested for? | ||
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| Fraud? | ||
| just happens now, right that you can get caught Talking about just arresting someone before they can go | ||
| talk to the press and then you actually do it and it was under whatever reason right and then | ||
| You it's fine back the blue, baby No one cares. | ||
| Gotta back the blue. | ||
| There's a rational explanation for that. | ||
| I'm not even sure if what they arrested her for was even related to the fact that she was throwing up a middle finger to the lockdowns. | ||
| But the point is, regardless, they arrested her as Nestle said they should. | ||
| Kind of just to send a message, right? | ||
| It's just bizarre to me. | ||
| Well, I guess it's not bizarre because it's 2021. | ||
| But still, it's a thing that happens and everyone is just fine with. | ||
| Yeah, this is how we do things now. | ||
| How funny would it be if just all the populist right conservatives just started saying, we all agree now, abolish the police is the right move, we were wrong. | ||
| Like, the establishment left would flip so quickly. | ||
| They would be like, hail police! | ||
| We love police! | ||
| Yeah, hail police! | ||
| Daniel Horowitz is this guy at the blaze. | ||
| He is not a populist. | ||
| He's very much a traditional, unironically principled conservative. | ||
| Again, working for the blaze, not a radical outlet, and he's actually taken this line. | ||
| Defund the police. | ||
| Because he, like you, he thinks that the police are no longer actually doing their job, they're no longer actually protecting us from crime, from violent crime. | ||
| They're in fact now just kind of acting as the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party. | ||
| It's because I think, for one, I've talked to a lot of cops. | ||
| I've gotten emails from a lot of cops. | ||
| The good ones quit. | ||
| Right away, they were like, I won't do that. | ||
| That's the line. | ||
| And now what's left are these like, you know, a lot of people who are scared to lose their job and a lot of cops who aren't actually doing any work. | ||
| So, to those guys, I'm kind of like, well, you know, I guess. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| When you're taking taxpayer money and doing nothing, it's kind of a problem. | ||
| But, uh, it's better than enforcing unjust laws. | ||
| But you do have a lot of cops who are just like, I don't care. | ||
| I'll arrest anybody that my boss points the finger at. | ||
| There was that video in, um, I think it was Portland, I'm not sure, where a bunch of Antifa are, like, walking towards a guy yelling at him. | ||
| One guy's got some kind of, like, stick. | ||
| I don't think it's a machete. | ||
| I think it's a bar or something. | ||
| A crowbar. | ||
| And there's a guy walking backwards with a baseball bat. | ||
| The cops grab and the guy drops the bat, gets on his knees, puts his hands up. | ||
| The cops arrest him and then apologize to the Antifa people. | ||
| And start saying really nice things. | ||
| I'm so sorry. | ||
| Bro, at a certain point, these conservatives need to realize that the cops are being replaced by Black Lives Matter. | ||
| And it's funny because when I've said before, you know, we should defund or abolish the police, people are like, Tim, then national police will come in and then the feds will control it all. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, The left already has the police. | ||
| The cops took a knee. | ||
| They dropped on their... literally... Okay, you guys ever watch Game of Thrones? | ||
| Bend the knee. | ||
| That was the line. | ||
| It was like to pledge fealty to the Queen. | ||
| To the Khaleesi. | ||
| What a sad failure of a show at the end. | ||
| But my point is, I don't care what you think bending the knee means. | ||
| Take a knee for Black Lives Matter. | ||
| Yeah, they're pledging fealty. | ||
| They did. | ||
| Now, I was still willing to be like, okay, we're gonna have an election and we'll see. | ||
| This is the kind of thing that's gonna wake people up and... | ||
| A lot of people did change their minds. | ||
| Trump got a massive amount of more votes, but the Democrats did a lot of things in the lead up to 2020 with, with mail-in voting changes that made it, that gave them huge advantages. | ||
| We saw the article from Time Magazine, and now the police are comprised almost entirely, in my opinion, of people who either don't care, won't work, or actually support Antifa and Black Lives Matter. | ||
| In which case, call their bluff. | ||
| Y'all are going to be fine. | ||
| You think I'm worried about it? | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Most conservatives live in rural areas. | ||
| Why is anybody going to be worried about it? | ||
| I guess if you're living in a city and you're a conservative, but then you're giving tax money to these people, so... We gotta act like we're playing the video game of civilization right now, as well as living in the country just chilling. | ||
| We're also communicating to hundreds of thousands of people, creating an archetype of what it can be. | ||
| I don't want to lose local police because the federal police will get stronger and then you do have the SS and like, I don't know. | ||
| So we really should empower local police to do the right thing. | ||
| But these cops are too weak. | ||
| Well, it's a generalization. | ||
| You know, we don't know them. | ||
| We really don't know. | ||
| We see a lot of news articles and make assumptions. | ||
| So I wrote about, in West Virginia, a bunch of sheriff's departments decided that if any really restrictive gun control laws would get passed, the sheriffs would find these different ways to basically not enforce them. | ||
| There was one sheriff, I don't remember his name, but he basically said, I'm gonna deputize every single person. | ||
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| Yeah, okay, Virginia. | ||
| I wrote an article about this for Chronicles. | ||
| And it was really funny because the reporter was like, wait, so you're saying that you're just going to make everyone a deputy? | ||
| And the guy was like, yeah, that's right. | ||
| I'm just going to give everyone a badge. | ||
| And then that way, the gun control laws won't apply to them. | ||
| So there are these good people on the local level. | ||
| But still, I think what you're ultimately talking about here is this kind of attitudinal disposition that conservatives have, where they still feel a kind of Call it blind loyalty to institutions that either no longer exists or are actually hostile to them. | ||
| And that, broadly speaking, that institution is the law enforcement apparatus. | ||
| This is a very uncomfortable place for conservatives. | ||
| Conservatives are the law and order people. | ||
| They're the people that, you know, that they respect the police. | ||
| They're the ones that follow the rules. | ||
| They respect hierarchies, whether or not they'll admit it. | ||
| And now they're in a position where they're at the bottom of the food chain. | ||
| And they're being actively persecuted by the institutions and by the people that they think are going to save them. | ||
| I mean, there's a common thing that conservatives say is, you know, as bad as things get, the military is going to have our back. | ||
| Mark Milley says that's not the case. | ||
| And so if you're a conservative who, for your entire life, you've been rah-rah, the Pentagon, you know, back the blue. | ||
| Now, like, the guns are pointed at you. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| So you're right. | ||
| There is a discussion that needs to be had. | ||
| And I think we're only just beginning to have it about. | ||
| Joe Biden was talking about the voting laws, and he says what we're seeing is the greatest threat since the Civil War. | ||
| The insurrectionists breached the Capitol. | ||
| in huge cities who are no longer really cops. | ||
| They're just bureaucrats. | ||
| And they're not in this for public safety. | ||
| They're in it for themselves. | ||
| Joe Biden was talking about the voting laws. | ||
| And he says what we're seeing is the greatest threat since the Civil War. | ||
| The insurrectionists breached the Capitol. | ||
| The Confederates never did that. | ||
| And, you know, we've talked about this a bit in the past several episodes, | ||
| but I want to add something to this idea. | ||
| Joe Biden's only saying these things that paint half the country as enemies of the state because he's confident that in the coming years, this group of people will be figuratively eradicated. | ||
| What I mean by that is politically eradicated. | ||
| That they're fractured, they can't organize, they won't win elections, and their opinions are completely meaningless. | ||
| And then it's going to be the overstate or the cathedral that controls everything. | ||
| And you look at what's happened with the police, and I think actually, interestingly, the resistance of conservatives is what's helped convert police departments into woke enforcement agencies. | ||
| When the left started saying, abolish the police and defund the police, and put extreme pressure on the police departments, conservatives stopped the departments from completely going under by pushing back, and then you had this argument over whether or not we really want to abolish police, and it worked out really, really well for the woke. | ||
| Because then, the good cops were like, I'm not going to be a part of this, leave. | ||
| Who's left? | ||
| The people who either don't care or are willing to do whatever they're told. | ||
| And then, because conservatives saved the department from being totally abolished, They were able to restock it up with cops who know exactly what these modern political times will bear. | ||
| So now, I would only speculate, you know, we're moving into 2022. | ||
| We're going to have the midterms. | ||
| They're going to be coming after conservatives like you cannot even believe. | ||
| They have already been tweeting things like, if we lose the House, it's all over. | ||
| Yes, their glorious revolution will be all over if Republicans get back the house and can impeach Joe Biden for high crimes and misdemeanors. | ||
| So what do you think they'll do? | ||
| They're going to come after right-wing influencers. | ||
| They're going to come after anti-establishment in any capacity, which includes some anti-war leftist types and people like Jimmy Dore, for instance. | ||
| I don't know if they'll ban him, but they've gone after people in this area who are anti-war, anti-establishment Democrat. | ||
| They're going to try and get rid of anybody who might actually make them look bad. | ||
| And they'll do it very slowly. | ||
| If they do it overnight, it'll cause too much of an uproar. | ||
| But they can't afford to lose the House. | ||
| Yeah, I think you're seeing this with Glenn Greenwald, right? | ||
| He's kind of become a bad lefty because he has joined sides with the populist right and talking about how terrible the national security apparatus is. | ||
| But he's always been that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The populist right finally joined him. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| But here is something to consider is that I'm not sure that even if Republicans would resume power, like assume power again, It's not clear that it would actually make a difference, because it seems to be the case that Republicans can win elections, but the left will remain in control of institutions. | ||
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| And therefore elections are kind of just, they're like respites. | ||
| They're periods where we can catch our breath, maybe plan. | ||
| Pressure release. | ||
| Yeah, that's all it is. | ||
| But ultimately the trajectory of the country does not change. | ||
| If we follow the same trajectory as we did in Trump's first term, that is to say in 2022 Republicans win, but then the Democrats wield the power of the intelligence agencies against conservatives and jams them up, investigates and crushes them. | ||
| Republicans are at a loss. | ||
| Republicans don't do this. | ||
| Republicans don't fight back. | ||
| And then we move into 2023 with the presidency. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| One of my favorite memes right now is this idea you hear. | ||
| A lot of libertarians are saying things like this. | ||
| They're like, the Democrats think the Republicans are lying, cheating, and stealing, and manipulating to gain more power. | ||
| And the Republicans think the Democrats are lying, cheating, and stealing to gain more power. | ||
| People need to realize, you know, both sides That is not true. | ||
| Republicans don't do anything. | ||
| Republicans have no cultural institutions. | ||
| They don't have universities. | ||
| They don't have movies. | ||
| They got nothing. | ||
| The best conservatives can muster is Ben Shapiro putting out a movie. | ||
| And that's great! | ||
| You know, respect for putting out this movie and getting into entertainment. | ||
| So they're actually doing something. | ||
| But conservatives are not reaching children. | ||
| They're not reaching young people. | ||
| You know, there was a tweet, I think, I can't remember where I saw this, maybe from Cassandra Fairbanks, that Nickelodeon or Disney Channel was playing anti-Trump ads. | ||
| Oh yeah, she was talking about that. | ||
| Was that Cassandra? | ||
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| Anti-Donald Trump ads on Disney Channel. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Those kids will grow up. | ||
| In 10 years from now, those 10-year-olds will be 20, and they are going to be ideological extremists. | ||
| And they'll vote. | ||
| And you won't even realize it. | ||
| Some of these kids right now, 15. | ||
| 15 years old. | ||
| Three more years, and they're voting. | ||
| And you gotta figure out what these kids are thinking, and I'm sure the Democrats are doing exactly that, and that's why schools are indoctrinating them. | ||
| Cause what's gonna happen is, you are gonna get some classically liberal leftist, and I mean it, actual like lefty individual, who, well I shouldn't say classically liberal, we'll say traditional liberal, agrees with a lot of conservatives, someone similar to maybe like me, they'll run for office, but in three to five years, they'll be considered far right. | ||
| Like we had Vosh on the show and he called me far right, it was hilarious. | ||
| But he's, what is he, 26? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| So these 26-year-old lefties on YouTube think 35-year-old Tim Pool, who believes in universal health care and social programs, is far right. | ||
| That's good, though. | ||
| That means you're the Trojan horse. | ||
| You're controlled opposition. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It means that in 10 more years, or in even three to five years, these young people are going to come up and they're going to see a traditional conservative and think, Nazi. | ||
| And they're going to see moderate liberal and think, far-right conservative. | ||
| If the train goes as it's As it's headed. | ||
| But we, you know, society is not linear. | ||
| Things don't happen linear. | ||
| We constantly are changing the narrative and shifting and altering the way things are happening. | ||
| Well, there's one thing to consider, and it's that liberals don't have kids. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're going to out-breathe them. | ||
| I mean, this is already happening, though, right? | ||
| When Glenn Greenwald retweets my stuff or interacts with anything, immediately he's labeled as a crypto-fascist, and then people will screenshot things that I write and be like, this is who Glenn is promoting, this fascist authoritarian stuff. | ||
| So, I mean, it's already happening. | ||
| But I think the anti-Trump ads on, you said Disney? | ||
| I think it was Disney Channel. | ||
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| Anti-Trump ads on Disney is like a good day for Disney, considering all the other smut that they write, that they run for children. | ||
| And I think this this kind of gets the issue of like critical race theory, where I really appreciate the work. | ||
| Christopher Rufo is like a national treasure. | ||
| But I think he has shown that Critical race theory goes so much deeper than anyone really thought it did. | ||
| And it has already infected every single cultural and social tissue that the task of extirpating critical race theory is actually much bigger and much more daunting than I think anyone had imagined before Rufo came on the scene and started showing people how pervasive this stuff is. | ||
| Yeah, I wanna, uh... Well, actually, we'll jump in in a second. | ||
| Conservatives need to start producing culture, you know? | ||
| I guess... I was trying to look something up and just... We'll pull that up in a second. | ||
| If... There is something interesting that we saw with Pew Research, and that is that the previous generation is slightly more conservative... I'm sorry. | ||
| The Gen Z is a little bit more conservative than Millennials, but only a little bit. | ||
| And that probably has a lot to do with the fact that you said, you know, conservatives are outbreeding liberals. | ||
| So I have to, I have to imagine. | ||
| So I want, I want to add this to what I was saying before about, you know, next three to five years, you might see some dramatic changes. | ||
| It's entirely possible I'm wrong, because in 10 years, the Generation Alpha or, you know, whatever comes after Alpha, I don't know. | ||
| Alpha Gen. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| It's Alpha Gen, then Beta Gen. | ||
| Yeah, Alpha Gen. | ||
| They might be substantially more conservative by simply the fact that conservatives have kids. | ||
| So you look at like, you know, Ben Shapiro. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| They call him an incel. | ||
| He's got, like, how many kids does the guy have? | ||
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| Twelve? | ||
| Twelve kids? | ||
| No, he's like four kids. | ||
| He has more kids than the people that call him in, so. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So, you know, actually, I could be completely wrong. | ||
| You know, we could be 10 years out from a conservative resurgence for a lot of reasons. | ||
| It could be that all of this stuff with police, all of this stuff with the military is freaking out regular people. | ||
| Come August 15th, as Bannon said, we see these In schools, the parents freak out at what their kids are learning. | ||
| And then 10 years goes by, and the millennials are now in their mid to late 40s. | ||
| And then the next generation is actually very woke, but most of the generation actually is more conservative simply by the amount of conservative kids are growing up. | ||
| So that's a very real possibility. | ||
| This could be a fluke. | ||
| Reaction is very possible. | ||
| And as pessimistic and cynical as I am in the short term, I have to be optimistic about the future, about the long term, because I have kids. | ||
| I've got one who's about a year old, and then I've got another one all the way in December. | ||
| And so I have to hold out hope that something like this is going to happen. | ||
| Because the idea of just settling on the notion that the future will be so much more horrible for my kids, it just seems unacceptable to me. | ||
| Look at what AOC and a bunch of these leftists are saying. | ||
| Oh, we can't have kids because of climate change. | ||
| It's like, OK, they're not going to have kids. | ||
| Conservatives are going to have kids. | ||
| And then when they do, I mean, this could be actually substantial. | ||
| If you look at millennials today, not having kids, but mostly the left ones. | ||
| A lot of non-political people have kids, conservatives have kids. | ||
| Lefty, liberal type millennials don't have kids. | ||
| So what happens in 20 years? | ||
| Is this country going to become a bunch of suit-wearing young Republicans? | ||
| A paranoid mind might rebut you by saying, well, this is why Democrats like open borders, because they can import new recruits, so to speak. | ||
| And why they're going after schools. | ||
| They know they don't have kids, so they gotta take yours. | ||
| One problem I find with conservatism by the label, I guess, is that I think that we need To kind of reintroduce or just enforce some sort of social conservatism in that like, you know, we talk a lot about morality and like not going flying too far off, but we need some like drastic legal liberalism. | ||
| I think we need to take take Liberty with our crappy system and change it. | ||
| So. | ||
| I think conservative politicians are not getting anything done. | ||
| You know, they've been sitting around just kind of like enjoying the status quo. | ||
| And that's a problem. | ||
| Just say as much as you need to get elected and then do nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we need like really to alter the system. | ||
| The Federal Reserve's gone roughshod. | ||
| The Central Electric grid. | ||
| The law enforcement agencies, the police departments. | ||
| Yeah, we've got like all these... Local governments. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| You know, I mean, yesterday's conversation was like particularly brutal. | ||
| And we were talking about just With anarcho-tyranny keep coming up, I think anarcho-tyranny is obviously happening. | ||
| It's been happening for some years now. | ||
| And I think that's the easiest way to understand that the system probably already collapsed. | ||
| If you have people who feel like calling the police is pointless, legitimately, not like Black Lives Matter where they're like, oh no, I can't call the cops. | ||
| People legitimately saying, I know they're not going to come here and deal with this riot. | ||
| But then also fearing if the rioters attack your house, you will get arrested. | ||
| The system is completely broken. | ||
| Well, I think the issue with anarcho-tyranny is that the anarcho part is by design. | ||
| It's a feature, not a bug. | ||
| And the point of it is to kind of paralyze the decent populace into feeling like they can't do any of the things you just described. | ||
| They can't defend themselves. | ||
| They can't have control over what their kids learn in schools and things like that. | ||
| So I guess it seems like the system has failed but it might actually be the case that it's more powerful than ever. | ||
| But on the other hand, historically when regimes become more repressive and more overt in the methods with which they coerce people to behave a certain way and to talk a certain way and think a certain way is usually when they're on the verge of crumbling or instigating a kind of reaction. | ||
| So because really effective systems of control are impersonal and automatic. | ||
| So when you have to start actively policing people, like we're seeing now, the Capitol Police leaving the Capitol, things like that, or the Biden administration talking about monitoring text messages, things like that. | ||
| That stuff, as much as it shows the power and boldness of the established political | ||
| order, it also tells us that it's kind of in this precarious position where it's this | ||
| close to maybe overplaying its hand. | ||
| Yeah, I think about that with text censorship too, because we should have a system I think | ||
| more that's granular where you can choose what you see rather than them choosing what | ||
| The fact that they're in there deciding who gets to say what is like, yeah, they're powerful, but it's also showing how the cracks in their system like. | ||
| Well, you know— They're afraid. | ||
| You look at Big Tech, and first I'll just say, you're right. | ||
| The moves they're making show an increasing desperation and panic. | ||
| And then you look at Big Tech censorship, and I can't figure out for the life of me what their goal is with Big Tech censorship. | ||
| I mean this honestly, because these are some of the dumbest— they're supposedly some of the smartest people, but boy, are they dumb! | ||
| I mean, if you had a sit-down meeting, you could figure out what was happening in only a few minutes. | ||
| I said this to Jack Dorsey. | ||
| On the Joker experience, when I was just like, at the end of the show, I'm like, I'm getting a van. | ||
| And they were like, they started laughing, and I'm like, y'all think I'm joking, but I was like, if you keep doing what you're doing, with this hyper-polarization on Twitter, people are gonna come to a civil war of sorts, they're gonna go after each other, it's gonna be insane. | ||
| So I'm getting that van ready, I'm gonna go bug out. | ||
| And, you know, people were messaging me laughing, saying, ha, it's so funny, I'm like, y'all think I'm joking? | ||
| Now look where we are. | ||
| With the police taking a knee, with the riots, with COVID. | ||
| Everything that's happened since then has been a dramatic escalation. | ||
| It's like, I certainly was not wrong. | ||
| I didn't give a good timeline. | ||
| But you look at what these tech companies are doing. | ||
| I couldn't figure it out. | ||
| I can sit here and say, here's what they started doing in 2010, in 2011, 2012, and look at each year, the changes they made. | ||
| Twitter, free speech wing, and the free speech party. | ||
| They used that to build themselves up, create a platform, Then you look at the past several years. | ||
| They make moves to make money. | ||
| They make moves to hyperpolarize. | ||
| What they are doing is only making things increasingly worse. | ||
| So the question is, is Twitter trying to stop the polarization? | ||
| Well, they're not doing that, so it's still only getting worse, and it has been getting worse. | ||
| Okay, then they want the polarization? | ||
| Well, I- I- I guess? | ||
| If I had to- If I had to look- If I looked at what they were doing and someone said, take a look at this system, and the equation, and the map, what is happening? | ||
| I'd say Jack Dorsey wants a civil war. | ||
| Mark Zuckerberg and- and Susan Wojcicki want people to literally attack each other in the streets. | ||
| That's the only thing I can- I can understand from it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So to Ian's point, I think you're also seeing this in the shift toward antitrust action. | ||
| Increasingly conservatives, populists are open to antitrust action. | ||
| I think a part of it is just a matter of enmity. | ||
| People are angry, right? | ||
| And to your point, Jeff Bezos literally booting Parler off the internet was probably the stupidest thing he could have done. | ||
| Because what that did, far from killing whatever narrative was being promoted on Parler that he thought was problematic, I think it was related to the January 6th thing, instead it just resulted in more people than ever, especially conservatives, who generally I think would have been opposed to something like antitrust, like taking a hammer and smashing Amazon, are now all for it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're seeing this now. | ||
| There's no political willpower to do it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| There is absolutely an effort to kind of throw an olive branch to the to the populists and say, look, we're trying. | ||
| We're trying to do something. | ||
| We're putting together a raft of legislation. | ||
| We're trying to take measures to bring to heel Amazon and Facebook and Twitter and stuff like that. | ||
| But you're right that there's this kind of reluctance and a way to to to do something without actually doing anything. | ||
| But. | ||
| I think that kind of like the cat's out of the bag and it can only escalate. | ||
| I think you're only going to see this trend toward demands for antitrust action increase, at least from conservatives. | ||
| I think that liberals are probably more opposed to it. | ||
| Sorry, liberals are more opposed to it because They're in power right now. | ||
| These institutions, these corporations, for the most part, they're doing what they want them to do. | ||
| And so, at the same time that you have conservatives pushing for antitrust action, you have people who are on the left saying, well, the thing that Facebook needs to do is not be broken up, but actually just kick conservatives off the platform completely. | ||
| I think Jen Psaki said something recently that if Facebook bans you, you should be banned from all platforms. | ||
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| I've got some weird necrotic energy when it comes to Saki lately. | ||
| I've been having nightmares about her. | ||
| Like a necromancer? | ||
| Yeah, like this dark, decaying energy around her. | ||
| I think I've been dreaming about her, or she's been in the back of my subconscious in a real weird way. | ||
| I'm sorry about gesticulating, by the way. | ||
| It's my Latin. | ||
| Oh, no, it's fine. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| It's worse than you realize. | ||
| From CNN, of all places. | ||
| White House is reviewing Section 230 amid efforts to push social media giants to crack down on misinformation. | ||
| For those that aren't familiar, Section 230 is a beautiful law that allows us the ability to use social media platforms without that platform being sued for what we say. | ||
| On its surface, it makes a lot of sense. | ||
| If I post something on Twitter under my name, y'all shouldn't be able to sue Twitter for it. | ||
| This law makes that distinction. | ||
| However, the law also grants the ability of these platforms to moderate to their heart's content, in which case they effectively create an editorial system by which they can say, we're not banning conservatives. | ||
| It's just our rules. | ||
| So they monopolize public discourse. | ||
| They then start purging conservatives. | ||
| It creates massive hyperpolarization. | ||
| It just keeps getting worse. | ||
| And then we find ourselves here. | ||
| Joe Biden wants to get rid of Section 230. | ||
| Donald Trump and many conservatives have been saying, get rid of Section 230, not realizing the law just needs a little bit of reform. | ||
| The Democrats want to get rid of it because they want to be able to force Facebook to ban whatever they want. | ||
| You get rid of Section 230, Facebook becomes liable for all of the... for whatever is said that's wrong, for defamation, for even potential criminal negligence. | ||
| So I'll put it this way. | ||
| I like to say, hey, don't take medical advice from me. | ||
| Talk to your doctor. | ||
| I don't want you to sue me. | ||
| Some moron is going to do something dumb and then blame me for it. | ||
| I'm not going to tell you to do anything. | ||
| You get people like, you know, Ben Shapiro even is telling people to get vaccinated. | ||
| I'm not going to do that. | ||
| I'm going to say, go talk to your doctor. | ||
| Because what if someone says, hey, Tim Poole said to get vaccinated. | ||
| I went to a bar and I was drunk and I got vaccinated, but I was allergic to it. | ||
| Nah, I'm not doing that. | ||
| Joe Biden wants to be able to ban whoever. | ||
| They're going to take away this law and that's it. | ||
| That's the end of the internet. | ||
| I will tell you. | ||
| One of the most important things that is keeping right-wing populists and conservatives in the culture war is the ability to speak on these platforms. | ||
| They are trying to take that away by any means necessary. | ||
| Now, the problem is many of these people on the left can't just outright ban you. | ||
| They can't just delete Tim Pool and every day TimCast.com is growing and we're adding more writers and we're doing more news. | ||
| Hey, that's a bad thing if you're trying to culturally homogenize around this, you know, cult ideology of critical race theory. | ||
| The problem is, they need a reason to ban people, and they have to do it slowly. | ||
| If you do it too much, you shock everybody. | ||
| The fog's gotta be blowing in the pot. | ||
| If they get rid of Section 230, they can just say, it's what Trump wanted. | ||
| It's what Republicans wanted. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| I think the only way that it would make sense, if you got rid of 230, would be to reduce Twitter to a public carrier, in which case it could not ban people, but that's an entirely different argument. | ||
| You can read guys like Josh Hammer, who's very much a conservative, in maybe more of a traditional sense than I am, and he's kind of suggested this. | ||
| A common carrier would basically make Twitter into a public transit system. | ||
| But you're right, though. | ||
| As far as the Democratic Party is concerned, as far as the Biden administration is concerned, this is what they see as a pathway to pushing people like us off of these channels. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
| It will bring us back to the era of a small handful of channels. | ||
| And it's already been happening. | ||
| So one of the things that YouTube has been trying to do specifically, there was a great purge that happened, I think it was last year or the year before, maybe the year before, where they deleted like millions of accounts that were too small, banned them from the Partner Program. | ||
| They kicked them out of the Partner Program. | ||
| And what this did was it created an advertising pool that was very much more homogenous. | ||
| You know, you had a lot of channels that made money off Flat Earth stuff, and so YouTube said, we're getting rid of all that stuff. | ||
| Some of it was really dumb, some of it was really bad. | ||
| And I know people who believe stupid things from watching dumb videos. | ||
| But, you know, individual responsibility, right? | ||
| What's happening is YouTube is slowly banning more and more channels. | ||
| I hear about it every day. | ||
| Channels getting demonetized and getting banned. | ||
| Eventually, they're trying to get us to the point where there's only maybe a few hundred channels, and all of their opinions are in alignment, for the most part. | ||
| You got your approved right-wing opinion and your approved left-wing position, and of course, it's all moving towards the left faster and faster. | ||
| So, you know, in 10-20 years, potentially, the right-wing opinion will be a leftist opinion today. | ||
| Many have made that joke. | ||
| That's what they're able to do because of the lax rules of Section 230. | ||
| They can effectively editorialize the same way New York Times will, making money off the content and then assuming no responsibility for it. | ||
| YouTube did something interesting a while back. | ||
| They changed their pay structure to be royalties. | ||
| And I think the reason they did that was because of the potential argument that you could say, no, YouTube is effectively employing these people. | ||
| There was an attempt to unionize. | ||
| This happened in, I think, Europe, YouTube unionization. | ||
| There were many on the left trying to argue that YouTubers were no different than Uber drivers. | ||
| They were de facto employees who deserved rights. | ||
| Then all of a sudden, YouTube says, no, we're paying you royalties for your content. | ||
| That way, well, now you can't argue that YouTube is publishing the content. | ||
| You can't argue that YouTube's employing these people. | ||
| And once again, YouTube is now able to editorialize and manipulate people. | ||
| And the creepiest thing about it is, there's a small handful of people at the top of these companies. | ||
| They're as dumb as a box of rocks. | ||
| They might be good at selling software or programming, but they do not have the cognitive faculties required to govern billions of people. | ||
| This ultimate problem is that those people change. | ||
| You know, Larry and Sergey bailed. | ||
| Susan Wojcicki didn't exist in this arena 10 years ago, 12 years ago, when Chad Hurley built YouTube before Google bought it and then changed the ownership again. | ||
| Jeff Bezos just left Amazon. | ||
| He just stepped down. | ||
| Jack Dorsey owns like 5% of Twitter. | ||
| He doesn't run that company anymore. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| He's a figurehead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which, it's basically a different company. | ||
| But it has the same name. | ||
| I think that should be illegal. | ||
| I think in the future, when a company gets sold, it should have to change its name. | ||
| It used to be that corporations were temporary, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Corporations formed for the express purpose of a mission, and they finished it, and then they broke apart. | ||
| But I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| Oh, maybe. | ||
| companies kind of existed because people with power had access to resources. | ||
| And if you did, then you could grant that to somebody. | ||
| And so somebody would agree to follow you. | ||
| And then I think what was the what was it for? | ||
| Was the Brooklyn Bridge the first corporation? | ||
| It could be wrong. | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think we need some sort of like specific law that organizes only around social | ||
| media. | ||
| And I've been waiting for someone to do it. | ||
| And then Joe Biden becomes president. | ||
| He's not the guy. | ||
| Will Chamberlain. | ||
| He's the guy. | ||
| People like Will. | ||
| We need to organize some sort of... Maybe we have to be the ones just to get creative. | ||
| How do you make a law? | ||
| Do you just have fun? | ||
| Do you just write a bunch of stuff down? | ||
| If everybody likes it, then you propose it to the Senate. | ||
| I was definitely wrong about the Brooklyn Bridge, by the way. | ||
| Who was the first corporation? | ||
| No, there was just tons of small corporations by special legislation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'm, you know, part of working, I co-founded Minds. | ||
| Are you familiar with Minds.com? | ||
| It's a social free software. | ||
| I used it briefly. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| And we were working with like the Manila principles was just kind of like an Internet constitution for the 21st century about like free, how you can like, Keep people free on the internet and you know, I'm sitting here looking like an idiot because I don't have all the I don't know I don't know how what the law should be. | ||
| I mean if we just reform section 230 a little bit to say that they could only ban speech that was deemed to be unlawful by a court. | ||
| Or actually, they should just be called common carriers. | ||
| It shouldn't be incumbent upon the company at all. | ||
| It should literally be an act of law that removes the content. | ||
| So social media network gets X amount of users per day, becomes a common carrier. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then it would be like this. | ||
| You post something on Facebook and then people flag it. | ||
| They flag it to law enforcement. | ||
| Law enforcement then comes in and says, OK, we believe this is an incitement or a threat or whatever. | ||
| There's risks there. | ||
| I used to be more just like, look, incitement is unlawful speech. | ||
| Obviously, we don't agree with that. | ||
| And there are some things you shouldn't say, like instructing someone how to commit a crime and stuff like that. | ||
| The challenge with that, I suppose, is the slippery slope of, If unlawful speech can be banned, then the government need only declare some speech to be unlawful. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they can say, well, look, you know, hate speech is not free speech. | ||
| They've been saying that for a long time. | ||
| So they pass a law saying hate speech is not protected anymore. | ||
| And so, no, you quite literally can't have a law supersede the Constitution. | ||
| In which case, that makes a very serious conundrum about laws that are like incitement or direction, because how can those laws be, you know, affecting the First Amendment? | ||
| Well, to put it simply, Supreme Court precedence is what gave us our understanding of free speech. | ||
| And it seems like actually free speech has been improving. | ||
| So there are some questions and challenges there. | ||
| Ultimately, I'll put it this way. | ||
| I still think it's a good idea. | ||
| It can only be banned by an act of law enforcement, by a court. | ||
| The judges should decide if it violates some kind of, you know, law or is not in the spirit of free speech or something. | ||
| Should be, I guess, up to the judges to figure out. | ||
| And the way you send the... Even with those problems. | ||
| Send the post to quarantine until it's decided? | ||
| Like, is it... Nope, nope. | ||
| So if... Say something gets posted that is illegal. | ||
| It seems very illegal. | ||
| You flag it. | ||
| You have to take... Then they get a warrant. | ||
| But then if it stays up while you're investigating it, that's a problem. | ||
| No, no it's not. | ||
| They have to get a warrant. | ||
| And if it's like posting someone's address and private information when you know they're at risk, they can get a rushed warrant. | ||
| They do these things all the time. | ||
| But how long is that going to take? | ||
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| A few hours? | ||
| Even that's a long time for something to sit up in public view on the internet. | ||
| Because that could get copied and pasted. | ||
| When you find illegal content, like for mines for instance, it was immediately removed. | ||
| And then sent to the FBI or whatever. | ||
| But there's no leaving it up. | ||
| You can't do that because then it's just you're culpable for inciting the... You know, admittedly, I guess we're dealing with a different arena outside of just the normal confines of speech. | ||
| We're talking about people posting photos. | ||
| Photos and videos and, you know, in that instance... Data. | ||
| Yeah, like if someone posted a video of a crime taking place, you know, or of themselves committing a crime, then there needs to be the discretion for someone with immediate access to take that down. | ||
| Or at least quarantine it somehow. | ||
| The challenge then is you will get people in these companies being like, that's hate speech removed. | ||
| And then when you're like, you're not allowed to do that, they go, it was an accident. | ||
| And then it comes back a week later when no one cares anymore. | ||
| How you solve for that, I do not know. | ||
| You got to remove the human from the, uh, process. | ||
| It's, it shouldn't be like, it shouldn't be a trust. | ||
| There should be no trust. | ||
| It should be a trustless process. | ||
| I think it should be, um, it should probably be a warrant issue. | ||
| Um, I mean, yeah, you talk about a lot of the things you've seen when you were moderating Mines. | ||
| Imagine if someone took a picture, like one of the most disgusting pictures, don't say what it is, on Mines, and they put it up on their window at their house. | ||
| Yeah, they go to jail for a lot of this stuff. | ||
| So if somebody wants to post this stuff on Mines, there should be a warrant, an investigation, and, you know, action taken, but it would have to happen immediately. | ||
| I suppose you can say that if someone put something up on their window that was objectionable, like, to an extreme degree, the cops would come and immediately arrest the person and take it down, as the crime is visible. | ||
| But sometimes someone will put something up on someone else's window, and you're like, well, we're not... So it's not about busting the person... How do you... Like, um... Someone will, like, hack into your account? | ||
| Well, anonymous accounts, for instance. | ||
| Like, Mines doesn't track people. | ||
| It's anonymous. | ||
| So you don't know. | ||
| You can't go after the individual. | ||
| You just have to go after the content. | ||
| I think that's the way social media should function in general. | ||
| I don't like going after individuals. | ||
| You just ban the channel if that person wants to start a new channel. | ||
| Unless it's criminal. | ||
| If it's criminal and you find out who does it, then they have to face the penalty of law. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I don't think that you should target... Like, if someone does something that violates a term on YouTube, you ban the channel that the term was violated on. | ||
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| Yeah, you get rid of the content itself and allow the person to, in my opinion, form another channel. | ||
| And if they don't violate the content again, then they're good to go. | ||
| We've had an instance here. | ||
| It was January 6th, actually, we did our show. | ||
| YouTube disabled our comments in our chat because people in the chat were saying bad things. | ||
| So they took that down. | ||
| They didn't give us a strike or anything like that. | ||
| There are several instances where they said, we will delete videos that do these things without issuing a strike. | ||
| The idea of issuing a strike is completely broken anyway. | ||
| You know what strikes on YouTube should be for? | ||
| Direct, provably egregious acts to violate the rules. | ||
| The problem is what YouTube does is Someone will, uh, you know, fart, and they'll be like, ah, gotcha! | ||
| You know? | ||
| Or someone will say something without intending to break the rules or not realizing it breaks the rules, and then YouTube will be like, we're banning you for saying that thing. | ||
| Instead of just being like, heads up, you can't say those things. | ||
| Now that we've warned you, any future instance in which you break this particular rule will result in a removal of that content. | ||
| If you directly and purposely do this, we'll remove you. | ||
| So we've had instances, I've had instances where I've had videos removed without getting a strike. | ||
| And I messaged Google and I was furious. | ||
| There's a name you can't say on YouTube, so nobody say it. | ||
| And I got into it with YouTube. | ||
| I was like, Rand Paul is speaking on the Senate floor and you're telling me I can't report this news. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'll say the news. | ||
| Actually, we did this in one of the bonus segments once. | ||
| I just started saying the name over and over again. | ||
| I'm like, we can do it on our website. | ||
| I was gonna change my name to that name. | ||
| Nope, nope, nope. | ||
| What would happen? | ||
| The video just disappears. | ||
| If I were to change my name to a banned name? | ||
| They would delete the content. | ||
| All my content? | ||
| Like anything I ever tried to do? | ||
| Anything with that name on it would be gone. | ||
| What about some poor person that has that same name? | ||
| Can they just not post online anymore? | ||
| That's crazy! | ||
| I've never heard of it before. | ||
| That's crazy that someone with a word associated with another word that's banned can't communicate. | ||
| There is a name on Facebook and YouTube. | ||
| Not Twitter, by the way. | ||
| I feel like we are playing with magical fire right now. | ||
| If you say the word on YouTube, they do something special. | ||
| They don't delete the video in a traditional sense. | ||
| They don't issue a strike. | ||
| What happened to me was that the video still was there, but it became, I suppose, a graphic instead of an actual image. | ||
| So if you go to the YouTube manager, you can see a list of all your videos. | ||
| If you move the mouse over the picture, the little pointing finger appears. | ||
| When I reported this story, because it was big breaking news, I didn't even know it got deleted until like a day later. | ||
| Someone emailed me saying, hey, what happened to your video? | ||
| And then I went and looked and it was there and I was like, it's still there. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| And then when I moved my mouse over it, no link, no magic pointing finger, just an image, just like they didn't want me to realize it was gone. | ||
| On Facebook, I posted about the guy's name and the post just vanished instantly. | ||
| And so I've posted really clever things that I'm trying to test the limits of. | ||
| The funny thing is, they can't ban you for it because it's not a violation of the rules. | ||
| There are people who work in these organizations who have the ability to remove the name, and they do. | ||
| That is so bizarre. | ||
| I've never heard of this before. | ||
| Can you write it down and slide it across the table? | ||
| We'll talk about it for the member segment. | ||
| So the question of the heads of these organizations or the CEOs who are kind of disengaged from Twitter and whatever. | ||
| I think it's also interesting because it gets at another problem that conservatives are confronting, and that is that the people who are promoting what conservatives think is socialism also happen to be the CEOs of major corporations. | ||
| In other words, the most powerful, the most wealthy people in the country don't really have a vested interest in private property anymore. | ||
| And in fact, when you look at the people who are trying to separate you from home ownership, or car ownership, or firearm ownership, it happens to be organizations like BlackRock, the biggest money manager in the world. | ||
| It's Amazon. | ||
| It's Facebook. | ||
| In other words, the people that are trying to deprive you from your property are the people that we traditionally would call, you know, the dirty capitalist class. | ||
| And again, I think this is, like the policing issue, this is another issue that conservatives are confronting with which they're very uncomfortable. | ||
| Because conservatives are the pro-business party, right? | ||
| They're the capitalist party, the free market party. | ||
| And right now, the people at the top of the so-called free market are trying to string them up on a noose. | ||
| So I think this is very this is a thing that we're I think only in the last year or so have conservatives been forced to confront this problem of call it big capital. | ||
| You know, you know what? | ||
| You know what I see? | ||
| The analogy I have for what's happening is you you you have these these threads all all in front of us and they're being braided into the sacred timeline. | ||
| We'll use the Loki reference. | ||
| When we look ahead, there are a lot of variables in these threads that will eventually either become braided into the main line that we're on or fall off, or our timeline. | ||
| And that is, you look at the potential children issue, right? | ||
| Conservatives have kids, liberals don't. | ||
| You look at censorship, you look at school indoctrination, you look at the Democratic Party, you look at the incitement by Joe Biden, screaming civil war. | ||
| And it's hard to know how much of a role each of these things will play in the development of our society or our timeline. | ||
| If the Joe Biden thing is more impactful than the school thing, then we may find ourselves splitting into two threads where we ultimately clash. | ||
| If the schools are more impactful, then we may see moms rising up and get a totally different future. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| What we can do is we can see the threats, but we don't know how much of an impact they're going to have. | ||
| So we can talk about a lot of this, but our predictions could be way off. | ||
| We have more power than we realize. | ||
| You have massive power. | ||
| Massive, massive, massive, massive. | ||
| We're altering the timeline so extremely right now. | ||
| When you, to spark collective consciousness, to spark like a, like a, what do they call it? | ||
| When a, when it hits critical mass, it doesn't take much. | ||
| It just takes, it takes organization of thought. | ||
| Like I think if, if five, 50,000 people were thinking something at the same moment that other people around the world would start to think it too. | ||
| I don't know about all that, but I can say that the standalone complex is a very real phenomenon. | ||
| If a bunch of rich people are all thinking... If at the same time 5,000 wealthy industrialists see a news report on CNN where they say far-right extremism on the internet is destroying the country, Those 5,000 people will be persuaded in some way to take action to alter what was seen in the news report. | ||
| That's the power of media. | ||
| Those powerful people will then all start directing money, not by conspiracy, by standalone complex. | ||
| All acting individually, but in such a way that it appears there was a grand conspiracy. | ||
| Yeah, the media is like allowing people to think the same thought at the same moment. | ||
| And that's probably what it's been doing since radio was invented. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| No, I think this happened with the media itself. | ||
| It's funny, the founder of Chronicles, his name was Leopold Tierman, he's one of the two founders, he wrote this essay in the American Scholar in 1976, I think, and the essay is called The Media Shangri-La. | ||
| And Leopold was sketching what we all know is true today, which is that the media is kind of as an agenda, right? | ||
| It's no longer really in the business of telling us the truth or merely conveying information to us, but really telling us how to think about information and telling us what the truth actually is. | ||
| And he says this because Tierman was someone who survived the concentration camps of the Nazis and the Soviets. | ||
| He was a Polish Jew who survived both types of totalitarianism during World War II. | ||
| And he immigrated to the United States and then founded Chronicles magazine with another guy named John Howard. | ||
| And so he's writing, look, in Poland the media said whatever the state told the media to say. | ||
| And everyone knew this. | ||
| Everyone in Poland and everyone who was under the heel of the Soviets knew that the media would just regurgitate whatever the party line was. | ||
| And he said in the United States you have this unique problem that you can really only talk about in generalities where it seems to be that there's this probably uncoordinated, even unconscious effort by the media to kind of cultivate certain narratives and basically appoint themselves as the arbiters of what is and is not true. | ||
| And this was in the 70s that Leopold was saying that. | ||
| I mean, it's true. | ||
| He was very prescient and he saw ahead of it, but this gets back to your point about the standalone thing. | ||
| I think when you call it a conspiracy, I mean, you might actually be true, but I think it's fair to say that this does actually seem to be a kind of like a... | ||
| At times almost uncoordinated, right? | ||
| Which the point is, it makes it very difficult to fight, right? | ||
| Because what do you do about it? | ||
| How do you take control of this? | ||
| I think we're very much seeing, you know, conservatives are trying to hold on to institutions and values that they think make America great and they want to make it better. | ||
| But the left, as we know it today, is just like fire. | ||
| It's just consuming and spreading, and it's fairly directionless. | ||
| You need destructive interference, because if you say, no, don't, stop, that's not gonna solve it. | ||
| That's the big problem. | ||
| When people are like, that's bad, I'm anti that, that doesn't work. | ||
| You need to create something new that distorts and quells the perception of that, so that they're focusing on this now. | ||
| Yeah, I think that a problem with conservatism in the United States has largely been defined by what it's against. | ||
| It's against socialism. | ||
| It's against big government. | ||
| It's against, you know, whatever. | ||
| But it has hardly put forward, like, a positive vision of the country. | ||
| The left, to its credit, is, I think, kind of visionary. | ||
| The left has tremendous goals that people will laugh at and within five years realize, oh no, it came true. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is like the story of the left is they get laughed at. | ||
| And then within a few years, it seems like it's every time this happens, it seems to take less and less time. | ||
| But conservatives will kind of guffaw and laugh and kind of console themselves that they've got facts and logic on their side. | ||
| And then within five or 10 years, they're living in the reality defined by the left. | ||
| And it's part of that is the fact that they have no positive vision. | ||
| They basically just are happy with these elegant reprimands of the | ||
| establishment, of the culture and decline, but they don't ever set forth any alternatives. | ||
| And when you ask them to, or when you do yourself, they'll be the first ones to pick apart why that wouldn't | ||
| work, why that would make the government bigger, | ||
| or why people would just ignore bans on critical race theory and stuff like that. | ||
| I mean, they do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I think there are actually ways to enforce these things. | ||
| I mean, my view on critical race theory is not... I think I'm for bans, but I'm also for actually attacking the institutions that promote these things. | ||
| This is why I have the idea of eliminating student loan debt by taking it out of university endowments. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Kill two birds with one stone. | ||
| No, it's totally true. | ||
| I mean, but also NGOs. | ||
| I think non-governmental organizations have made a kind of racket out of promoting critical race theory. | ||
| I think these also shouldn't exist. | ||
| I want to show this graphic from this cartoon from Political Humor on Reddit. | ||
| It says, then, and there is some, you know, white man bearded with a confederate shirt, and he says, we must preserve our heritage, and there's like a confederate statue of the flag, and it says, now, and it's the same guy ripping up a piece of paper that says critical race theory, and he says, we must bury our heritage. | ||
| And then on the blackboard, he's in his school, it says 1921 Tulsa Massacre, and there's a cop writing Lesson Banned. | ||
| It's almost as on-the-nose as Ben Garrison's comments. | ||
| And there's sad little kids of varying races looking at him doing it, and the sad black teacher. | ||
| And I'm like, the funny thing is, they rely on false arguments in an effort to push back. | ||
| As if James Lindsay is a confederate. | ||
| Like Christopher Ruffo. | ||
| James Lindsay and Christopher Ruffo, the most prominent voices opposing critical race theory, have literally nothing to do with an old white man wearing a confederate flag. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| James Lindsay actually, in a moment of confusion, attacked me as, I think, a promoter of critical race theory. | ||
| Because I made a joke about how some Latinos are white adjacent, and he attacked me. | ||
| He attacked me because, I don't know, I think he thought I was a critical race theorist or something. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| I think Lindsey is one of these guys who's, I think he's just like a liberal, isn't he? | ||
| Like a classical liberal centric. | ||
| Traditional. | ||
| He's harmless. | ||
| Classical liberalism is more like libertarianism. | ||
| He's totally harmless. | ||
| And yet, because he argued that, look, the logical conclusion of telling people that whites are the root of all evil and are to blame for everything, in the words of Suzanne Sontag, if you know who she is, so that the white race is the cancer of human history. | ||
| If you tell this to people, You're going to start seeing an increase in violence against whites, just like you would against any group. | ||
| You know, the Kulaks. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But you're also going to see a rise in white racial identitarianism, of which critical race theorists are actively calling for right now. | ||
| Well, the weird D'Angelo thing. | ||
| But the point is, is that when Lindsay just made this harmless observation, he was attacked as promoting, like, the white genocide conspiracy theory. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing. | ||
| But wasn't that by Quillette? | ||
| Yeah, Claire Lehman or Lemon, whatever her name is. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's become like particularly establishment, pro-establishment, hasn't it? | ||
| Very strange, right? | ||
| Yeah, because it's like adjacent to the IDW. | ||
| But I mean, look, the whole like identitarian thing is, is if you're going to have a society where you have the hispanic caucus and the black caucus and every group is allowed to have an identity and as part of that a sense of dignity like it's okay for me to be black or it's okay for me to be hispanic or whatever and you deny that to whites do you see the problem with this do you see the problem with having a black caucus and hispanic caucus but then you tell white people you're not even allowed to think of yourself in terms of a member of a group | ||
| Like, it's a kind of problem that creates itself. | ||
| So I think, I'm not sure who, but somebody rather mainstream, I think Dave Rehboy, made this argument recently, like, look, you literally can't have this society. | ||
| It will collapse on its own terms. | ||
| And I agree with that. | ||
| One thing about critical race theory I've been thinking a lot about is I see this push to ban it, to make it stop, like stop, make it go away. | ||
| No, no more, no more. | ||
| That's not going to work because I do agree that we shouldn't be indoctrinating children with a racial theory in school, but we need to educate people about what critical race theory or critical theory is implicitly. | ||
| If we know what it is, we know what to look out for. | ||
| Well, hold on. | ||
| When I grew up, I was told by my teachers classically liberal ideas. | ||
| I was told not to judge people based on the content of their character or the color of their skin. | ||
| The schools told kids this, and it was accepted. | ||
| They said not to be, you know, hateful or homophobic and all that stuff. | ||
| Today the teachers are saying they want, that the kids should judge people based on the content of their character. | ||
| I'm sorry, they should judge people based on the color of their skin and not the content of their character. | ||
| The point is, Even if you say we're banning critical race-applied principles, the teachers still will say these things and still believe these things. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Then they should lose their jobs. | ||
| In my opinion. | ||
| Then fire them all. | ||
| Every single one of them. | ||
| I fully support a ban. | ||
| I support firing teachers to promote this stuff. | ||
| I support seizing the endowments. | ||
| I support destroying NGOs financially. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. Now think about when, when, uh, you know, the civil rights movement was happening. It's, this | ||
| is the, this is the trouble with banning ideologies. Religions can be defined. We know, you know, religion. There was an | ||
| interesting debate about, uh, intelligent design versus, uh, evolution. And people were like, intelligent design is just | ||
| religion because it's not in science. The problem is you can easily make something an ideology and then how do you | ||
| ban it? You tell, do Don't tell the kids to believe things about race. | ||
| You said racial theory. | ||
| Well, Martin Luther King Jr.' 's theory on equality was a racial theory. | ||
| I understand critical race applied principles are very specific and it's a specific ideology, but how do you ban an ideology? | ||
| How do you separate ideology from public institutions? | ||
| I don't think you can. | ||
| You need to educate people about what it is first so that they know. | ||
| That's a big part of it. | ||
| It is easy to say we have the 1964 Civil Rights Act and creating racial groups is a violation of Title IX in colleges particularly. | ||
| I would actually argue that critical race theory is an outgrowth of the civil rights era. | ||
| And the primary function of CRT today is to explain why disparities have persisted despite the Civil Rights Act. | ||
| Sure, but Derrick Bell opposed civil rights. | ||
| Derek Bell was critical of Democrats. | ||
| I could be wrong, so fetch me on this one, but my understanding is that Bell was operating on the idea that Democrats were effectively taking agency away from black communities and forcing them to coexist underneath. | ||
| I've got to go through the literature specifically on Bell, but my understanding is Critical race theorists effectively oppose civil rights, and one of the things that I've seen emerge out of the Black Lives Matter movement specifically—this was in, I think, Ferguson and Baltimore—was this idea that segregation was a good thing, and these were black activists saying it. | ||
| They believed that before the end of segregation, there were equal and opposite communities in which you had black families, black businesses, black Wall Street. | ||
| Segregation forced the black community to live underneath the existing white infrastructure, effectively making them second-class citizens. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that a lot of those ideas came from Bell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's why one of the big criticisms of critical race theory is that the goals of critical race theory are to rewind the clock back before the civil rights movement. | ||
| So that's why you see things like caucusing. | ||
| They want racial segregation. | ||
| That's why you see an attempt to repeal California's civil rights provision in their constitution. | ||
| so that they would have the right to discriminate on the basis of race and other things. | ||
| It's why you see actions from the left with Harvard. | ||
| They need the ability to discriminate on the basis of race, which means repealing the 1964 | ||
| Civil Rights Act. | ||
| They oppose it, and they always have. | ||
| And it has done that by basically advantaging and giving every other group except for whites preference and access to different affirmative action programs. | ||
| In effect, it discriminates against whites. | ||
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| Affirmative action, it's actually been argued, a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, particularly with Harvard. | ||
| You cannot discriminate on the basis of race. | ||
| One of the ways they've gotten around this is that the courts ruled, this was particularly recently in Southern California, that so long as you offer up an equal program for other groups, it is not discrimination. | ||
| Specifically, if there is a women in computers program, And there was a man who sued. | ||
| They said, is there a men's computer program? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| OK, it's not discrimination. | ||
| The problem with that argument is that that's the argument for bathrooms. | ||
| If you're offering up an open bathroom to all, then anyone should be able to use any, you know, I'm sorry, it's if. | ||
| The problem with that argument is the racial argument. | ||
| If you're creating, you know, a whites-only or, you know, a blacks-only area, providing free but separate access was one of the critical arguments from the civil rights area that ended segregation. | ||
| So ultimately, long story short, without getting too complicated, The critical race theorists want segregation. | ||
| They can't have it so long as the Civil Rights Act says you can't discriminate on the basis of race. | ||
| So in California they had, I think it was Proposition 6, I could be wrong, where they, maybe it wasn't 6, I'm not sure, where they wanted to remove from their constitution the public civil rights provision that said you cannot discriminate on the basis of race, sex, national origin, religion, in schools, in public contracting and employment. | ||
| They tried to get rid of that recently. | ||
| I think just this past November, it failed. | ||
| Because people of California were like, why would we get rid of our civil rights? | ||
| Yeah, I think you can find these examples of these situations where people can successfully, I guess, find recourse against this stuff to the CRA. | ||
| But I mean, the fact is that affirmative action, things like that, is actually the outgrowth of the CRA. | ||
| But that makes no sense. | ||
| It does when you consider that the provisions of the Civil Rights Act were intended to kind of like We're intended to, let's say, catch blacks up and other, initially blacks, but the provisions ended up extending to, uh, to homosexuals, to immigrants, and to women. | ||
| But the reason California, the Democrats are arguing they can't implement these programs because of the civil rights provision. | ||
| I haven't heard that argument. | ||
| You need to read about the prop. | ||
| Uh, let me see. | ||
| My point is, is that you're, you're right. | ||
| There probably are these instances where people say these things, but generally speaking, the legacy of the civil rights act has been the culture of affirmative action. | ||
| I think, and it, part of it's confusing because people thought it wasn't prop six. | ||
| That's that was a road repair. | ||
| People thought they were going to get this colorblind thing, right? | ||
| And when you look at, like, the rhetoric of MLK, you also see that. | ||
| There's the famous quote. | ||
| Sixteen, maybe it was? | ||
| The famous quote, judging people by the content of their character instead of the color of their skin. | ||
| But MLK explicitly supported affirmative action programs. | ||
| He saw no contradiction between something like the Civil Rights Act and affirmative action. | ||
| 16. | ||
| I was wrong. | ||
| It was Proposition 16. | ||
| Proposition 6 was like the Roads Repairing Act or something like that. | ||
| Anyway, it's called the Affirmative Action Amendment. | ||
| Federal-level Democrats started campaigning on behalf of California saying, California should have the right to discriminate on the basis of race in schooling and public jobs for the sake of fixing racial disparities. | ||
| It got 42%, 42.77% voted yes on Prop 16 in November 3rd, 2020. | ||
| 42 percent, 42.77 voted yes on Prop 16 in November 3rd, 2020. | ||
| 57.23 said no, 9.6 million people said no to Prop 16, keeping California's civil rights | ||
| provision in their constitution, making affirmative action unconstitutional in California. | ||
| Yeah, no, I'm not denying that you have this example, but I think you can find plenty of | ||
| One of the reasons that the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act was basically unenforceable was actually because of the Civil Rights Act. | ||
| Because there was this problem where businesses enforcing the provisions of the Immigration Control and Reform Act would potentially run up into anti-discrimination laws that are part of the Civil Rights Act. | ||
| So it's like an unintended, well, I think in some ways it's an unintended consequence, but it's the logical conclusion of making anti-bias and anti-discrimination the central principle of your politics is, well, why are we waging this war against discrimination? | ||
| Well, it's because one group is discriminating against all the rest. | ||
| And I'll say this too. | ||
| There's almost no hard principle for anti-discrimination. | ||
| So when we look at the 1964 Civil Rights Act, we ultimately will just make a personal decision as to where we stop. | ||
| If we truly believe you can't discriminate against people based on certain immutable characteristics or certain personal characteristics or identities, it goes infinite. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| Furries. | ||
| New York says gender identity is self-expression, by which, legally, furries would be protected. | ||
| And so, ultimately, the 1964 Civil Rights Act is really about society and what our social norms are and are willing to accept. | ||
| We gotta go to Super Chats, because we are running late. | ||
| So if we haven't, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and go to TimCast.com, become a member. | ||
| There will be a bonus segment, a members-only podcast, coming up around 11. | ||
| But let's read some of these Super Chats. | ||
| Louis Castagliola says, how many plots and conspiracies supposedly stopped by the FBI would have even gotten that far without instigation by government moles and informants? | ||
| I guess the answer to that is many of them, if not most. | ||
| Cecil Rhodes says, FBI fabricating bias investigations. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
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| sorted out on Saturday perhaps people need to refresh the the cache I'm not | ||
| entirely sure us clear your browser cache that's a good way to do it yeah | ||
| and the other thing too is members don't see ads If we're going to be hiring journalists and having articles for people to consume, but they're not members, we have to support that somehow. | ||
| So obviously there are ads, but if you're a member, there should be no ads. | ||
| There are some bugs, don't get me wrong. | ||
| We're working to fix all of them. | ||
| Some people are still experiencing some of these things, but we'll do our best to get everything sorted. | ||
| What about comments? | ||
| Are they coming on? | ||
| You said there were comments still. | ||
| Comments are gone. | ||
| Yeah, I don't have comments on mine. | ||
| Maybe it's because I haven't refreshed my cache. | ||
| Maybe it's a bug. | ||
| Yeah, I saw all the old comments were still there. | ||
| But again, if you're not seeing them, then we'll just... I send a message and then we'll figure out what happened. | ||
| Wonderful world of tech. | ||
| This is what happens. | ||
| We were in alpha, we go to beta, now we're in public beta and people are gonna notice problems and so I apologize. | ||
| But man, that site is cool, dude. | ||
| It's well organized. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's getting there. | ||
| We're gonna have new shows. | ||
| It's gonna be fantastic. | ||
| But we'll get it fixed. | ||
| Courtney, I apologize for any of the issues. | ||
| And people who don't like ads, become a member. | ||
| You know, support our work because you'll get access to all the members only stuff. | ||
| I just wanna, I wanna just say something really quick too. | ||
| Guys, you gotta realize, hosting this content, the images and the videos, it's absurdly expensive. | ||
| You know, YouTube cheats. | ||
| YouTube, this livestream would not be possible on a private server. | ||
| It would cost so much money. | ||
| YouTube plays games. | ||
| Google subsidizes YouTube. | ||
| So we, you know, we had a peak of like, you know, 32 or something thousand people watching. | ||
| We're streaming, what's our rate? | ||
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| 2,600 kilobits per second multiplied by the upstream and the downstream. | ||
| If we were operating that on our own, the bandwidth costs would be insane. | ||
| Ads are a thing that happen on websites, but we want to make a reasonable service, and that's the way it's got to be. | ||
| We're hiring journalists. | ||
| We gotta pay him. | ||
| In order to pay him, we either run ads or we take memberships, but I, you know, it's all working out really well, so I apologize for people who don't like ads, but, uh, gotta support the business. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| Aaron Welbelove says, Ian, for President of the Universe. | ||
| Well, I don't know if we need one person to run everything anymore. | ||
| Maybe we can decentralize the power structure. | ||
| No, I'm pretty sure that if Ian got a hold of the Infinity Gauntlet, he would be worse than Thanos. | ||
| Nope, I would be like Adam Warlock, dude. | ||
| I'd pull a George Washington. | ||
| Cincinnati's. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Yeah, Cincinnati's. | ||
| Adam Warlock, he got a hold in the comic book, which is the real Infinity Gauntlet story. | ||
| He got the gauntlet and then he gave the gems to the Infinity Watch to take them and then spread out across the universe. | ||
| Nope, you'd be a Zealdor. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I'm ready to pull a George Washington on this world. | ||
| You'd be looking at the glove, and I'd be like, do it Ian! | ||
| Take the gems out! | ||
| Give them to the Watchers! | ||
| And you'd go, no. | ||
| No, you're like Frodo. | ||
| I'm like, no Tim! | ||
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| No! | ||
| And you're like, it's mine. | ||
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Oh, mine! | |
| I keep thinking, like, are we gonna have a Frodo-Sam moment where you're standing there with the ring and I'm like, throw it in! | ||
| Nah, you know why I wouldn't, uh, you know what I would do if I had the Infinity Gauntlet? | ||
| I'd, like, just make, like, weird little things happen that don't really change much. | ||
| Because what you gotta understand about life, as much as you might not be happy with life, think it's unjust, or want things, you ever play a video game? | ||
| You ever play, like, you know, and you put in the cheat codes? | ||
| You get so bored so fast. | ||
| Like, it's a fun novelty for a few minutes, where you're playing Mario with infinite, you know, leaf or whatever, or P-Wing in Mario 3, and you can't die, you got Game Genie on, or you're playing, you know, let's say Fallout, or some console game and using console commands. | ||
| It's fun for a second when you, like, make, you know, I play Fallout 3 and I'm like, make my dude 80 feet tall and I'm running around and, you know, make him run super speed, and then eventually I'm like, meh. | ||
| I once set up a private server, uh, or no, no, I didn't. | ||
| Somebody set up a private server on Warcraft. | ||
| We went on and they gave us GM commands and I was like, this is so cool. | ||
| We're teleporting and we're like shooting through the air. | ||
| And then I was like, this is dumb. | ||
| So you think that people that are running the world, if there is such a thing, a deep state or whatever, do you think that they've also become disillusioned, bored with everything and now they're just. | ||
| I mean, that's why they probably resort to profound depths of generosity like Jeff Epstein. | ||
| I really think that's the thing, that once you become that wealthy and that powerful, you can only feel something when you engage in some kind of depraved act. | ||
| Yeah, I don't want that level of desensitization. | ||
| Did you guys hear the Democrats are planning to make women register for the draft? | ||
| I did not. | ||
| Draft Our Daughters, that alt-right meme. | ||
| I wrote about Ricky Vaughan. | ||
| Do you know who he is? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh yeah, I vaguely remember. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was one of his memes, Draft Our Daughters. | ||
| Well, it's real now. | ||
| Supreme Court said it got sued. | ||
| They said it was incumbent upon Congress. | ||
| And now a Democrat from Rhode Island is saying women should have to register for the I support that. | ||
| I support it because it is horrible and it should be taken to its hyper-logical conclusion, which is drafted daughters. | ||
| I bring that up, though, because we have this super chat from Hunter Ryan. | ||
| Female veteran, yes we should register and yes we should be allowed any job we meet requirements. | ||
| New PT test, MOS scale, not gender, check the email. | ||
| My argument is basically I don't care if you're a man, woman, if you're from this country | ||
| or that country, so long as you are a citizen obviously. | ||
| Well actually I think there are some people who are citizens, who are not citizens who | ||
| are in the armed forces. | ||
| Regardless, if you meet the qualifications and you can do the job, I don't care about your identity. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So yeah, drafts for everybody. | ||
| Force them all. | ||
| You know, I'll say this, though. | ||
| How much you want to bet you are in favor of the draft? | ||
| Me personally? | ||
| Yeah, both of you guys. | ||
| I'm opposed to both, which would... The draft? | ||
| I'm opposed to the draft, unless in some kind of tremendous circumstances like an alien invasion. | ||
| And I mean, my views on... | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, let's break this down. | ||
| If somebody broke into your house, would you take up arms to defend your house? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If you got word that Antifa was heading to your neighborhood, to your block where you lived with weapons, and your neighbor said, we need your help. | ||
| We're going to be standing guard at the front of the street. | ||
| You need to help us. | ||
| Would you go and help them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you're being drafted by them? | ||
| I mean, it depends, I guess. | ||
| I don't know if you'd call that a draft because it's entirely voluntary. | ||
| I don't know, I think my opposition to the draft is actually fairly new. | ||
| For most of my life I supported it, but I guess knowing what I know now about the federal government, I couldn't support a draft for like Iran or something. | ||
| Right, well that's exactly my point. | ||
| If you got word that China had invaded the West Coast and seized Seattle, San Francisco, LA, and was basically wiping out and seizing full control, and then a local military called up and said, you have to join. | ||
| We need you. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| Our country is under attack. | ||
| Would you be OK with that? | ||
| Yeah, that's different from Vietnam. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so the problem with the draft is that they're like, hey, we're not at risk, but go blow up those people. | ||
| And we're like, nah. | ||
| So the problem is the idea of a draft in defense of a country for truly defending it. | ||
| I think most people probably would be OK with. | ||
| The problem is most of our drafts the past 100 years have been like, go to some foreign land where someone who didn't attack us is, you know, we need to attack for some reason. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| Let's read some more. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| BangSwitchTickler says, the FBI has always been a corrupt agency. | ||
| The legacy of Woodrow Wilson and J. Edgar Hoover lives on to this day in that trash agency. | ||
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| John Tarwood says, I'm excited to see how many registered voters used California's Capitol building's address to vote. | ||
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| Whoa, just jumped on us. | ||
| Eric A. says, Abolish the FBI. | ||
| They've long outlived their original emergency purpose for their creation and they keep finding justifications for their existence and budgets. | ||
| Abolish the FBI. | ||
| Accept the X-Files. | ||
| They can stay. | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| I think the X-Files are real though, right? | ||
| It's what they put on things where it's like weird and they don't know what happened. | ||
| I think they are. | ||
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| And that's what the basis of the show was. | ||
| They were like, well, let's make a show about that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Jonathan Duger says Jewell was a guard of the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta. | ||
| The Atlanta Journal-Constitution named him as a suspect and the FBI was doing everything they could to target him. | ||
| Jewell died a few years ago without an apology from the AJC. | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Insert name here says, NorCal here, welcoming a balkanization of Cali. | ||
| NorCal hasn't considered itself to be the same state as SoCal for some time. | ||
| P.S. | ||
| We have 80% of Cali's water supply. | ||
| Let that water black hole LA turn into a sand pit. | ||
| Which it would be. | ||
| But I believe LA gets a lot of their water from the Colorado River. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jerks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stealing our water. | ||
| Yup. | ||
| OK, let's see. | ||
| I don't know what that one means. | ||
| I'm going to skip that one. | ||
| Jacob Howard says, Can we please call the Capitol Police Biden's stormtroopers? | ||
| Stormtrooper sounds too cool. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| It's like invoking fun, excitement and Star Wars. | ||
| And, you know, no, you know, you got to give them stupid names like silly nannies. | ||
| You know, like, you know, like a family guy joke or the whisper, the kid sniffers. | ||
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Kid Sniffers. | |
| Yeah, Kid Sniffer cops. | ||
| The capital Kid Sniffers. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, that's what they're about. | ||
| It's fair. | ||
| Biden's Kid Sniffers. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Kid Sniffers. | ||
| David Bowyer says, the issue I see is that we live in the United States, which is full of many cultures, whether it be a gamer culture, or a gun culture, or sports culture. | ||
| So when people say we are losing the culture war, are we really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So when like, oh man, I love this. | ||
| I said years ago, I was like, just you wait once they start, once major league sports go woke, because we're seeing it in video games and movies. | ||
| And then it happened. | ||
| And then the polls came out and the ratings were sinking and they're just miserable. | ||
| Because nobody wants to watch woke sports. | ||
| But I tell you this. | ||
| It ain't over yet. | ||
| Just wait. | ||
| Until they say... Sporting rules are arbitrary. | ||
| Major league sports should be required to have a certain percentage of female players. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| NBA's rules are made up. | ||
| We made them up. | ||
| We could absolutely add a new rule saying at least, you know, half the players in the team gotta be women. | ||
| I think when you force equality of outcome like that, you cause a lot of tension among the people that you're forcing into the situations. | ||
| Like, I don't want the male athletes to start hating the female athletes for bringing the team down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that the way to think about the culture war is not, we're losing, it's that we've lost. | ||
| Well, what is the war? | ||
| What is the goal of the war? | ||
| The goal of the war is to take control of certain narratives about important issues about race, about gender, about national identity, about American history. | ||
| And on those categories, I think you can confidently say conservatives have lost. | ||
| They have no control over these narratives and how to cultivate them and how to direct them. | ||
| I think that when you start from that position, we've lost. | ||
| Then you ask yourself, why did we lose? | ||
| And I think that's the question that we should be asking ourselves. | ||
| If you're a conservative or, like Tim, a disaffected liberal. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Justin Soverin says, I'm skeptical about the Freedom Phone. | ||
| Look up the Aenom Sting Police sold encrypted phones and tracked crime and made arrests. | ||
| More Luke, please. | ||
| Well, you got to tell Luke to come on the show because he's off gallivanting about New Hampshire with his Free State Project. | ||
| But that's pretty cool anyway, though. | ||
| Um, the Freedom Phone. | ||
| I'm going, we're going to, we're going to, you know, we're going to rip the shreds. | ||
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| We're going to get a hold of it and we're going to do a bunch of forensic testing. | ||
| We're going to do, we're going to look for data leakage and things like that. | ||
| And we're going to see, uh, you know, what's up. | ||
| And that means we're going to need to get a couple of different versions of them. | ||
| And then, uh, you know, we got, we're going to have to figure something out, but. | ||
| I want to genuinely test this to see if it's on the level, because you never know. | ||
| I mean, this dude, Eric, might be a good dude, but what if, in the manufacturing process, someone, you know, bugs him? | ||
| Yeah, well, I was, I mean, something I read about them was that their pop, like, this specific model is popular in places like North Korea because they can be, they can basically be accessed by state agents. | ||
| In other words, not very secure. | ||
| And I mean, you go to the Freedom Phone website and there's no specs on the phone. | ||
| And the phone is, in fact, manufactured by... It's a... Umidigi. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which basically mass-produces customizable phones. | ||
| Well, that's not surprising to me at all, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If someone's trying to look for a low-cost model to make a phone, they find a company that makes low-cost phones. | ||
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| But it's being marketed as like a revolutionary security thing, which is... | ||
| So he's got a custom operating system on it. | ||
| We have to do a forensic analysis to see if his claims are true. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, you know, the smear campaigns against Freedom Phone have been hilarious because they don't actually smear anything about it. | ||
| They're like, ah, he used the base Chinese phone model. | ||
| And I was like, OK, what's the operating system? | ||
| Yeah, well, good for you that you're actually willing to, you know, put it under the knife before you make your criticisms. | ||
| Well, I mean, what, what, what can you criticize? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I can be like, you got to put the specs up, bro. | ||
| Where are the specs at? | ||
| I think it's going to be, I think it's the, what is it? | ||
| The something four. | ||
| It's like a, like they have the five now, 5A out, but it's like the four version four. | ||
| So I have a feeling it's going to be... They're claiming it's the Umidigi A9. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It'll be like a slightly less technical equality version of what, you know, Google and Apple are making with slightly more security is what my guess is what it's going to be. | ||
| I think the device is going to work as advertised. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
| Because it would be hilarious. | ||
| Absolutely hilarious. | ||
| And I'd love to be the person to dig this up. | ||
| If I buy a stock Freedom Phone, run some basic forensic analysis and find that it's sending all my information to the FBI. | ||
| I'd be like, how dumb was that? | ||
| And then I'd post it. | ||
| Everyone would be like, wow. | ||
| So there's there's no way you can put out a phone that doesn't do what you're saying, because people can just check it. | ||
| It would be like if someone said, I'm going to sell you a Frisbee and they give you a rock, you'd be like, Dude, this is not a frisbee. | ||
| It does not glide. | ||
| Did you throw it yet? | ||
| You throw it and then it hits the ground. | ||
| You're like, I can clearly tell this thing is not a frisbee. | ||
| You know, so I guess the difference is it would be like, you know, trying to buy a baseball bat and they sell you a wiffle bat. | ||
| You know, you look at it from a distance and you might be like, that's a bat. | ||
| Then you pick it up and you go, wait a minute. | ||
| The moment you hold it, you're like, what? | ||
| So maybe it's not as good as they say it is, and it won't do as advertised, and the guy will make a bunch of money. | ||
| And people will probably get refunds, so we'll see. | ||
| I don't think he's doing it for the money. | ||
| He's already severely wealthy. | ||
| Lewis T says, Ian, you are the cilantro in this guacamole. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. | ||
| I don't like cilantro. | ||
| Is that a racist comment? | ||
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Cilantro? | |
| It's a natural water filter. | ||
| I do not like cilantro. | ||
| I know, that's why I'm here, Tim. | ||
| But many people do. | ||
| And people are like, it tastes like soap. | ||
| And I'm like, I didn't say that. | ||
| I'm your medicine man. | ||
| I just don't like it. | ||
| It does not taste like soap. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing to me. | ||
| Like, what soap are you talking about? | ||
| Cilantro soap. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, yeah. | ||
| Maybe we should make that. | ||
| Because, you know, there's cucumber melon soap. | ||
| There's lavender soap. | ||
| Yes, herb soap. | ||
| And it all just, soap just tastes bitter. | ||
| Like, you ever get soap in your mouth or something? | ||
| It's just bitter. | ||
| Herb. | ||
| Cilantro does not taste like soap. | ||
| It just tastes like cilantro. | ||
| It's very unique and bad. | ||
| Which Tim doesn't like. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I love cilantro. | ||
| There's a principle defense of cilantro. | ||
| I love the medicinal quality of food. | ||
| I was actually thinking about the Hippocrates quote, let food be thy medicine. | ||
| And I was like, actually, I posted that meme. | ||
| At what point will social media networks start to say, this is misinformation about health? | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
| I'm posting a 2000 year old quote from the father of modern medicine. | ||
| He was food is your medicine. | ||
| Probably a bad guy. | ||
| Christopher Hunt says the left does have kids. | ||
| Yours. | ||
| Also Antifa is the outer class brought to you by victory windows, glass and pain. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They have your kids in schools. | ||
| That's why the school thinks it's a hot button issue to them. | ||
| That's why they have to lie about the, these, you know, critical race theory in schools. | ||
| We're just teaching racism. | ||
| That's why we have to homeschool them. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Correct. | ||
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| Let's see. | ||
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What is this? | |
| What does that mean, Harris on BTE? | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| your website, why am I seeing Harris on BTE instead of your members content? I am effing | ||
| angry. What does that mean, Harris on BTE? I don't know what that means. I don't know. | ||
| We're trying to fix the bug. So we'll sort it out. The Scott says, Tim, you want to put social | ||
| media punishments in the hands of law enforcement. | ||
| 20 minutes ago you said to abolish the police because they're so biased. | ||
| The only solution is unmonitored free speech. | ||
| I also mentioned that the abolishing the police thing was twofold. | ||
| Partly because it's becoming corrupted. | ||
| It's not actually fulfilling its purpose and we're facing a narco-tyranny. | ||
| And the other is that the left, like regular people, would instantly snap to attention if the police went away. | ||
| But the hands of law enforcement for social media, yes, because I believe if we have a functioning society and we're hoping that it does continue to exist, then the only people should have any way to remove content should be for legal reasons. | ||
| And I also said it was for the courts, too. | ||
| So law enforcement, cops, maybe not the same thing. | ||
| Maybe marshals do it or something. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| Let's see, what is this? | ||
| Derek Lola says, my father and I bonded plenty over watching this show the past year. | ||
| He passed away last week and I wanted to thank the entire team for providing us a great medium to enjoy together. | ||
| Derek, I am sorry to hear about your loss, but I'm glad you guys enjoyed the show together and I greatly appreciate your super chat and your viewership. | ||
| I wish you the best. | ||
| Thanks for sharing that. | ||
| Casual Gorilla says, Gorilla, rise up! | ||
| Oh yeah, AMC stock bounced, you know. | ||
| I've got some AMC stock. | ||
| I just, you know, got some and I was like, that's fun. | ||
| And I just kind of forget about it. | ||
| I think I bought like one share of AMC stock. | ||
| You're rich now. | ||
| Well, if it's going to get as crazy as they think it's going to be, it might end up becoming worth an obscene amount of money. | ||
| I thought that was hilarious. | ||
| Like everything about the whole GameStock thing was absolutely fantastic. | ||
| It's all about it. | ||
| Antonio Calabrese says, Tim, had to get this in during the Prop 16 talk. | ||
| Please look at the California map to show which counties voted yes. | ||
| It is quite telling. | ||
| It is in the SF and LA area. | ||
| I'm not surprised. | ||
| The leftists want segregation. | ||
| They've wanted it for some time. | ||
| I experienced it personally at Occupy Wall Street. | ||
| And the only way they're going to get it, if they can actually discriminate. | ||
| Mr. Beard says, I ordered a Raspberry Pi from Amazon on Saturday to load a DNS server called PiHole for blocking ads across this whole network. | ||
| After ordering, I noticed that I also ordered Speechless that got added to my cart by Tim on Friday. | ||
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| Success! | ||
| So what had happened is we were doing the show and I said, Alexa, order Speechless by Michael Knowles. | ||
| No, I just did it again. | ||
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I listened to the show later that night and it did it again. | |
| Oh no, she's gonna order it now. | ||
| Alexa, stop. | ||
| Oh, she's not listening. | ||
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Stop. | |
| Somebody super chatted something. | ||
| Shoot it. | ||
| And then someone super chatted that. | ||
| With your flintlock pistol. | ||
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There you go. | |
| Somebody super chatted that phrase. | ||
| I'm not going to say it again. | ||
| And I was like, oh, this is too good to pass. | ||
| I'm going to read this super chat. | ||
| And then, so I went, I was ordering, what was I ordering? | ||
| I was ordering an incubator for the chickens. | ||
| And Speechless was in my cart. | ||
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Oh, look at that. | |
| I was like, I already have a signed copy. | ||
| I'm surprised that you use Alexa. | ||
| I'm so paranoid that I have like disabled Cortana on my laptop and stuff. | ||
| Oh, yeah, I got microphones and everything, but you know, my thing is like all of my opinions are recorded and broadcast for the world. | ||
| It's not a secret, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was outside in the yard and I was like, Alexa. | ||
| Alexa, what time is it? | ||
| I can't do that. | ||
| I can only imagine that NSA, CIA, FBI, whoever else is spying. | ||
| They're sitting back and they've got a Slurpee. | ||
| We don't have to spy on the guy because we just watch his show. | ||
| We know what he's saying. | ||
| But then maybe when they spy they get the juicy private vlog details because they know what the vlog is going to be before the vlog goes up. | ||
| They're like, dude, Ian made bread again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the NSA has like early access to your shit. | ||
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It's not there, yeah. | |
| They don't even have to set up a site. | ||
| Um, I can't read the name. | ||
| Uh, this guy's name is not readable on YouTube. | ||
| He says, Yes, there is a name that can't be said. | ||
| I can't confirm or deny that I was involved in making up an erroneous story in an attempt to get Trump impeached. | ||
| Salty Army is Legion. The salt must flow-ry. | ||
| Yes, there is a name that can't be said. I'll tell you what, for all the people who don't know the story, here's what's | ||
| going to happen. | ||
| I'm so curious. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| What? | ||
| Jim Arreola says, Hey Tim, your most recent members podcast is now showing a Kamala Harris | ||
| video for nine seconds. | ||
| We will get that fixed immediately. | ||
| What? | ||
| Um, I, I did, I did check all of, I went through everything this morning and everything was | ||
| fine, but things probably are popping up cause you know, the bugs tried to sneak through | ||
| for all of those who want to know what this name is. | ||
| What is this name? | ||
| What is this name? | ||
| It's the first thing I'm going to do when we open the members podcast today. | ||
| I'm just going to say it and then explain it briefly. | ||
| And, uh, there's a lot of people probably don't know, probably a lot of people who do. | ||
| And, you know, but I can't, you can't say the name. | ||
| Am I going to be disappointed that it's like not someone who's super based? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You're gonna be disappointed. | ||
| It's just, it's just, you know, we, we hear that, you know, communist China is censorship and all this stuff. | ||
| And I'm like, bro, I can't. | ||
| You can at least say Mao's name. | ||
| You can at least say Xi Jinping's name. | ||
| It's gonna be like Grover Cleveland. | ||
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Something like that, yeah. | |
| Stop trying to guess the name. | ||
| It reminds me of the Futurama episode where Bender has the code word, that if he says it, the code phrase, he'll blow up. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| And they couldn't remove the bomb, so they're like, we just changed the phrase to something you almost never say. | ||
| So they put a bomb in him, and it goes off when he says the most common phrase, which is, you know, bite my shiny metal A. | ||
| And then they're like, we couldn't remove the bomb, so we just changed the trigger to a word you almost never say. | ||
| And then he starts, he's like, oh, is it this? | ||
| And they're like, Bender, stop trying to guess the word. | ||
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And he goes, antiquing. | |
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| Pedro, you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Yeah, follow me on Twitter at E-M-E-R-I-T-I-C-U-S and the most of my writing you can find at ChroniclesMagazine.org. | ||
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| Yeah, right on, man. | ||
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| That's all I want in life. | ||
| Please help me. | ||
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| And I'm going to make some phone calls trying to fix those bugs immediately. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. |
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