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June 16, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Fox 26 Journalist Ivory Hecker EXPOSES Censorship And LIES In Media w/Ivory Hecker
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tim pool
If you're a fan of the content that I produce, then you're probably not a fan of corporate
press and mainstream media.
I know I'm not, and I rag on them all the time, so I can only assume if you watch the
videos of me ragging on corporate press, mainstream media, these big tech conglomerates and the
big media conglomerates, I can only assume you probably don't like them either.
Recently, a whistleblower stepped forward and came to Project Veritas, revealing censorship at Fox26.
That whistleblower is here with us today.
Ivory, do you want to introduce yourself?
ivory hecker
Hey guys, my name is Ivory Hecker, and I am a Tim fan, so I'm honored to be out here.
tim pool
So, this is a funny story.
You were just in New York.
ivory hecker
Yeah.
tim pool
And how did you, how did, can you, can you, you want to tell everybody how you ended up here?
ivory hecker
Oh yeah, so...
Yeah, so I was in New York.
So many people have been wanting to interview me.
And so I've been very busy with that as well as well as trying to edit content and get this true story out there.
There's so much to tell.
And then I get a note from Tim.
Saying would you is there any way that you could come on the show in person tonight?
tim pool
And I know we have like five hours Five hours.
ivory hecker
Yeah, and I was like, oh my gosh, I was like, okay, I'm looking into a helicopter or a plane or something And he was like, please film yourself going onto a helicopter, you know, I was like look that's how awesome your show is Oh, thanks, man.
tim pool
We're gonna find ourselves a helicopter and get on right and Yeah, well, you made it and this is going to be awesome.
So we're going to talk all about corruption in media.
There's a bunch of stories.
I mean, right now, Joe Biden has been, he was at the G7 summit.
He was with Putin and a lot of people, even, you know, many people on the left and the right are pointing out the American journalists are screaming at Putin and not asking any of these questions to Joe Biden.
We don't have a fair and honest media in this country anymore, so I'm glad you're here, and we're gonna talk about your story.
Of course, I have a somewhat similar story.
I didn't blow the whistle and come out and, you know, do some big expose, but I've certainly experienced a lot of what you've talked about, so we'll get into all that.
Of course, we got Luke!
luke rudkowski
You guys are causing some serious microaggressions against the mainstream media, and that's totally not cool.
Mika Brzezinski of MSNBC, who previously said it's her job to control exactly what people think, probably doesn't appreciate it, so, yeah.
Welcome!
I am your humble t-shirt vendor, and if you like the t-shirts I wear, you could get them at thebestpoliticalshirts.com, including the one that I wear now, and I might be live-tweeting on LukeWeAreChanged.
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
Live-tweeting?
Well, hey, I'm Ian Crossland.
What's up, everybody?
Ivory, I'm glad you're here.
Glad to hear- I want to hear about this.
I've heard a little bit about it, so I'm glad to hear about it from your perspective.
ivory hecker
I'm so honored to be here!
lydia smith
And I am so excited to have Ivory as well.
I always love having ladies on the show, especially ladies with big, um, what do they call them?
Lady cojones?
Yes, I love the way she unpacked this for the audience at large.
I think it's great.
I'm excited.
tim pool
We're going to learn a lot about the inner workings of the media and why we experience lies and manipulation.
Of course, I've got personal experience, but we've got a big story right now, so we'll get into that.
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Let's get into the first story.
We got this link from Project Veritas.
Fox 26, Houston.
TV reporter Ivory Hacker goes public!
I don't need to read it.
Ivory's sitting right here.
So, let's just start from the beginning.
What, uh, what happened?
ivory hecker
Well, weird stuff started to happen late last summer.
They, they, the first thing that just really stunned me was when Fox 26 sent me to cover COVID treatment at a hospital.
They didn't like what the doctor said.
And then they went ahead and punished me for allowing his son, his soundbite to reach people's eardrums.
tim pool
So So wait, you just asked a doctor some questions and you got in trouble for what the person they wanted you to interview said?
luke rudkowski
A medical professional.
ivory hecker
Yeah, so this was two weeks after Dr. Stella Emanuel spoke in DC saying what she said about hydroxychloroquine.
And then I was sent two weeks later to talk to a doctor who was treating COVID patients.
He had actually teamed up with the army medical team from the Department of Defense.
They were all treating COVID patients and the interview was very dull.
The army wouldn't tell me anything.
I knew that the audience was still buzzing about hydroxychloroquine after all of that crazy news about Stella Emanuel, the mass censorship across social media that we saw after that.
I think people had lost more trust than ever in media when they saw this strange blackout where every hydroxychloroquine post was being deleted.
tim pool
Still.
ivory hecker
Yeah.
tim pool
So even we have to be careful, otherwise YouTube would take the whole show down.
ivory hecker
Right, yeah.
Sorry I'm saying the H-word.
unidentified
I hope your show survives me.
tim pool
Look, if it gets deleted, it does.
If YouTube pulls that and it's that creepy because we're talking about censorship in the media, yeah.
I mean, that's the level of insanity we're dealing with right now.
luke rudkowski
We're not telling people what to do.
We're not medical professionals, so we want to clarify that.
We're just talking about the facts of the story, which are very important.
You talked to a medical professional in the field dealing with real-life situations.
And could you expand on his kind of take?
unidentified
Why did this happen?
ivory hecker
All that happened, dull interview with the Army.
They won't tell me a thing.
I know people are buzzing about hydroxychloroquine.
So I say, final question of the whole interview, I say, by the way, do you guys use hydroxychloroquine?
And then he said, actually, we have used it and we've had great success.
I know it's very controversial.
But we throw the whole kitchen sink at them.
We treat them with a lot of, they have a whole recipe of treatments for COVID patients.
And so I actually added that as the final soundbite in my TV package.
And by the way, guys, I just, the story I'm telling you, I literally just uploaded a YouTube, if you check my social media.
I uploaded my boss's own words on this, so you can go check what my boss has said about this after the show wraps up.
tim pool
YouTube.com slash IvoryHecker, I believe.
ivory hecker
Yeah, I mean, just search Ivory Hecker, I guess.
I don't know if it's... Sometimes that doesn't work.
Yeah, maybe it doesn't work.
Anyway, if you go to my Instagram, real.ivory, I just uploaded it there.
Anyway, so the boss is... I added that as the last soundbite of the package.
Oh, by the way, he is using... this hospital is implementing the controversial drug.
Uh, and I, and I called it controversial.
I just left it at that.
And, uh, my minutes before air, my bosses were like, get rid of that soundbite.
We do not want that in our newscast.
And I was like, okay, well, why is that?
Um, they said, well, you didn't include the context of other drugs they're using.
I was like, oh, okay.
Okay.
So I got rid of it from the TV news.
It didn't air in the TV news.
I uploaded that soundbite to Facebook with the caption having all the drugs he uses to treat COVID.
So his whole, his whole recipe is on there.
And the bosses flipped out.
They flipped out.
They said that I was not following their instructions.
I did exactly what they told me to do, right?
So anyway, they went so far as to... They actually shut down my social media.
They said, you're not allowed to post anything until we say so.
And then, so I was in like a week-long blackout.
And then they said, okay, you can post on social media, but only Things that we approve, which is safe news.
And but then they but they instituted basically a permanent social social a permanent ban on coverage of covid drug treatment.
So I was no longer allowed to cover covid drug treatments because I could not comprehend the narrative.
tim pool
The president was talking about this.
ivory hecker
Right.
And here's the thing.
This I'm I'm adding zero commentary, zero opinion to this.
Just here's his soundbite.
This is what he said.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
Yahoo News had a story about, you know, HCQ, and they had a story titled, Drug endorsed by Trump, no more effective than placebo at warding off coronavirus, studies suggest.
A couple of days ago, they had another article by Yahoo News.
I'm not saying this.
Yahoo News is saying this.
Study shows hydroxychloroquine and zinc treatments increased coronavirus survival rate by almost three times.
That's Yahoo News.
tim pool
But to be fair, I mean, it's a year apart.
Yeah.
And here's the fascinating thing, though.
ivory hecker
That doctor I interviewed, he was adding the zinc with the hydroxychloroquine.
Apparently, people are saying that it works more effectively if there's zinc mixed with it.
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
And there was other previous studies without zinc.
And that's why Dr. Chris Martinson of Peak Prosperity was talking about how there was a debunked study that was personally not adding up to the science that he questioned that came out about hydroxychloroquine.
tim pool
So let's just say this right now.
Do not take any advice.
Like, you seriously gotta go talk to a doctor.
You do not get it from us.
Just because there's some Yahoo stories that say one thing or another doesn't mean you should do anything.
You should talk to a doctor and take your doctor's advice.
I think the biggest thing... I think one of the things YouTube is concerned about... I'll say one of the things.
Exactly.
that you get these stories about this lady eating fish food or whatever and they don't
want to get smeared in the media having supported shows that have promoted or talked about it
at all.
So we're not we want to be very clear.
Our focus is on the media's response to this.
Exactly.
You go and talk to a doctor before you do anything.
ivory hecker
So looking at the comparison of those two studies almost a year apart.
It's just it's more of a confirmation that we need to keep the conversation going out
Stop shutting down conversation about this, because we could have maybe connected more dots on this a lot earlier.
tim pool
I will add that that study that's come out is not peer-reviewed, and it's a preliminary research study that is not to be used for guidelines according to its, like the first paragraph in the study says, do not use this for clinical use.
It is not peer-reviewed.
So I think this is one of the things that we have to be careful about.
And for whatever reason, YouTube freaks out.
Now, I will say the creepier aspect of it is you can't even you can't even ask a doctor.
Right.
ivory hecker
Right.
It was a doctor who was doing.
But here's here's one thing that just stopped me in my tracks a couple of weeks ago.
I was I was thinking back to that doctor and thinking over this this crazy journey these past like 10 months or whatever it's been.
And I googled him and I came across something that said that his death rate was dramatically lower in his hospital than other hospitals.
And I was like, what?
And I looked into this further and I actually made calls myself and collected raw data and came to find that he has dramatically lower death rates at his hospital
compared to other hospitals across the county, the nation, and the world.
luke rudkowski
This is a major story and I think this is why YouTube has had the hammer on it
so effectively because you know there's a lot of implications here.
I don't want to jump to conclusions.
I'm not going to jump to conclusions, but people should do their own research, do their own homework.
The medical studies are out there.
You could read them yourselves.
Some are debunked, but the conversations that are being had are having to be had outside of big social media companies, and that's sad.
ivory hecker
And also outside of corporate news outlets as well.
tim pool
I will add, there is a really creepy, like, I don't need to describe it, but there's the left, the establishment left has their creepy Blue Anon worldview where Rachel Maddow screams Russia for years and they all just believe it.
And then you do have, you know, QAnon people and people who just outright believe certain things.
And this is the challenge.
People going online and just reading whatever and assuming it's true.
That's why I'm like, look, we've mentioned this before.
I've had people say that they don't trust their own doctor and I'm like, if you don't trust your own local doctor, who do you trust?
What do you do?
You know what I mean?
What's your response?
To go ask your neighbor Agatha or something?
I'm sorry, I couldn't do that.
I have to talk to a doctor.
Maybe get a second opinion.
luke rudkowski
You should have a relationship with them.
You should get some of the scientific studies, send them to your medical professional, and have an honest, real discussion with them, because if you can't trust your doctor, you're at the wrong doctor.
You should be having real, honest conversations.
tim pool
But I gotta stress this point.
I turn on the TV every day, and you'll see like some woman with blonde pigtails prancing through the field, and it'll be like, she's happy because she takes Flabodan.
Is Flabodan right for you?
And I'm like, they just promote, they don't even tell me what the drug does.
I remember seeing a commercial, I'm not gonna name the drug, they'll come after me, these people are litigious.
But it was like, I'll keep it vague, and it was asking if this drug is right for you, and I'm just like, you didn't even tell me what it does!
So it's like some old man's gonna call and he's gonna be like, I saw a commercial, is it right for me?
And they're like, sir, this is for pregnant women.
Oh, the commercial didn't tell me that.
ivory hecker
But these commercials that YouTube is probably taking ad money from, Oh, TV news is definitely taking ad money from that, and any TV news viewer knows that.
The commercial breaks are full of drug companies, okay?
TV news is heavily funded by drug companies.
And does that compromise the newscast when the coverage comes to drugs?
I don't know.
But here's the thing, guys.
So when I found out those death rates at the hospital, it really made me stop in my tracks
and say, let me circle back to that story they banned me from last year.
So that's what I've been digging on the past few weeks.
I'm going to release an independent report on this in the coming days, unveiling, really
digging deep into the banned information about what's really happening in these hospitals,
And he's not just using one.
He actually phased hydroxychloroquine out because he got too much pressure on him.
The pressure was intense.
He was using a recipe of almost 10 different items that were really key, he says.
It's a very interesting story.
I'm gonna talk to Quite a few people for this report, and I hope you guys enjoy.
luke rudkowski
I know some medical doctors, too, that I could connect you with.
And also, another thing I wanted to add, I love hearing the side effects for those commercials.
unidentified
Explosive bubbles!
luke rudkowski
And it's like, what the hell am I taking?
unidentified
That's a majority of the commercial space.
tim pool
Going back to the corporate side of this, I guess what they were saying was that, in this video that came out, the video you got for Project Veritas, What is the reason why a corporate executive would say don't tell this story?
you know, ethnic minorities wouldn't be interested in stories so they don't report it.
And so I'm wondering in this regard if, what is the reason why a corporate executive would
say don't tell this story?
It sounds like the answer is they want to make money, right?
ivory hecker
Yeah, I really am not entirely sure what the motive was at the time.
I think, I think Fox at this time, and I'm talking Fox Corp, they they feel such a target on their back for having the name Fox.
And they are really you're really watching Fox start to crumble to that pressure is what's happening is they're starting to be so careful And if they see other media censoring something out, they join that team and say, we'll be safer.
tim pool
That's spineless.
ivory hecker
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so what I found interesting in the video that you did, or that you released, was when one woman says, you know, she passed on a story about Bitcoin because the 5 p.m.
hour is, like, largely, you know, black people who wouldn't be interested in this story.
Things like that.
And you mentioned that they were really, like, targeting demographics and trying to figure out which news would cater to them.
ivory hecker
Yes, absolutely.
tim pool
Can you explain that to us?
ivory hecker
Oh, yeah.
It's in news.
It's like everything's broken down into these little demographics.
And actually, it's like a large amount of the behind-the-scenes conversation in news is about racial groups.
Well, what's this racial group doing?
What's that racial group doing?
And how will this racial group respond to this news or whatever?
And it's crazy.
It's all through race-colored lenses opposite of what MLK had in mind, by the way.
So yeah, she just made an assumption that if you're poor and black, you don't care about Bitcoin.
tim pool
Maybe it's because they haven't been told about Bitcoin, because these news outlets just say they wouldn't care anyway.
They make an assumption about a person based on their race when they could be wrong.
Maybe if you gave information to people and an opportunity to understand, they might actually care about it.
ivory hecker
Right.
luke rudkowski
And if you look at one technology that has enriched people, has helped people, has taken people out of poverty and given them some wealth, what technology recently has allowed people to do that?
Cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin.
They have helped so many developing countries, third world countries, there have
been so many charity efforts, there have been so many amazing things happening in the
Bitcoin cryptocurrency space that help people that it's just kind of crazy to see someone's perception
controlling the reporting on something that is so crucially important like Bitcoin. It feels to me
tim pool
like there's, I guess it's a hive mind.
It's the collective.
I refer to... Groupthink.
Yeah, right?
So there is this major media hive.
And if you step out of line, they all point at you in the same direction, and they fire their figurative lasers at you.
All of a sudden now you're getting the heat from every single media outlet, every single activist organization, and then everyone gets scared it'll come for them, so they shut off working with you.
You get cancelled.
I wonder if that's what we're seeing with, like, you mentioned the pressure at these news stations.
ivory hecker
Yeah, Fox doesn't want to get cancelled by being said to be touting a drug that is said to not work.
So they're just gonna ban coverage of the drug to protect themselves.
tim pool
I actually have experience with this.
So when I worked for Fusion, which was the ABC News Univision joint venture, I was talking to the president of the company and he told me, you know, our job here is to side with the audience.
That's what he called it.
What it basically meant was we make news, you know, content that caters to a group of people that is looking for that confirmation bias.
I asked him, I was like, so are you saying to me, that if there is a factual news story but it would be
offensive to our audience we don't report it and he said I think that's fair yes that I think summarizes
ivory hecker
it that is the state of the American media and that happened to me almost six years ago okay so
unidentified
this is yours this is your story Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ivory hecker
Oh, my gosh.
I was I was basically trying to quit for the past 10 months, but I had this crazy, rigid Fox contract.
tim pool
That's exactly what happened to me.
ivory hecker
What's your OK?
tim pool
What's your two year contract with Fusion?
And after about a year, I'll start from the beginning.
So, you know, I worked at Vice.
I got contacted by this recruitment company.
They said, here's what we want to do.
We basically love what you've done with Vice News because I was the I was the founding member.
I was the first person they hired and really shaped a lot of it.
They said, we want you to do that exact same thing here with new technology, new methodology, and I was like, that's fantastic.
Went and talked, they gave me some numbers, I said, this is fantastic, I'm gonna have a budget, I'm gonna have a team, I'm gonna be making great money, and we're gonna launch something really incredible.
Within about six months or so, the company went from, we want to be edgy and youthful to, we are completely woke in every way and we outright hate white people.
I'm not kidding.
The editor-in-chief changed his Twitter banner to say, down with whiteness.
And it was a black fist.
Like, revolution fist.
And so that to me was like, okay, I just go on the ground and I tell people what's happening.
I'm not here to claim a race is bad or to push ideology.
And so I started having these conversations where I'd just say, like, hey, I'm not comfortable with the content shift.
And eventually it became more Golden Handcuffs for me.
They didn't want this kind of content anymore.
They wanted activists, progressive.
And this is how the conversation came about.
One of the first was, I said, look, if, you know, was when I go to his office and I said, I see what's going on at this company.
I don't agree with your ideology.
It doesn't fit, like, my style of reporting.
I just want to do on the ground, you know, documentaries.
I went to a weapons expo in Brazil.
We went, we looked at guns and missiles and there were generals walking around and stuff.
Nothing overtly ideological.
And so, when I come back and I see what they're doing with all the content, I'm like, this stuff is laughable.
I mean, like, you're dumping, what, hundreds of millions of dollars to make an activist blog.
People do this work for free.
You don't need to start a newsroom to make an activist blog.
Go start a non-profit.
Do you want to actually do news and want to make a successful company?
This isn't going to work.
That's where that conversation comes from, where he says, look, we're just here to side with the audience.
And then I said, what audience is that?
And he says, look, young people are progressive.
This is the thing that they want.
And I said, I don't think it's about what they want.
I think it's about giving fair and honest information so that they can understand what's happening in the world.
And then he said, look, you know, we're here to just side with the audience.
That's when I said, does that mean if there's a factual news story that would be offensive to them, we wouldn't report?
He said, yes, I think that's fair.
I had a meeting with them in, I think this was in California because we were based in Miami.
And I sat down with them after about a year or so into the contract and I said, if this is the way things are going to go, clearly I shouldn't be here.
So how about we just end it now and you guys sever my contract?
But they didn't want to do that.
I think they were worried that I was one of their high-profile hires.
They called it the Expendables.
They hired a bunch of prominent personalities from across New York media.
They were like, what would happen if the news comes out Tim Poole breaks contract and quits?
They don't want to deal with the bad PR.
So he was like, oh, I see what you're saying.
I'm really sorry.
We'll figure it out.
The president outright told me that the company was racist.
Like, straight up said the company was racist and there were issues.
And so he said, we'll talk about it later.
Well, what ended up happening later was I got a phone call and I thought this was it.
I got an email.
They're like, we need to have a conversation with you.
And I was like, finally, it's been a few months.
Now they're going to end my contract early and I can be rid of this company.
No, I get a phone call thinking the guy's gonna say we've, you know, considered what you've talked about and we're gonna let you go.
Instead he said, I just wanted to let you know we have a very serious matter to discuss with you and I think I'd rather just tell you in person.
And I was like, wonderful.
And he goes, yes, we're gonna be depositing a very large bonus, should be around $40,000 into your bank account and we don't want you to be alarmed by the number.
And I went, what?
Yeah, yeah, everyone's getting a bonus.
And I started laughing.
And I was like, is this a joke?
I don't even know why I got a bonus.
I was not part of whatever the structure is they were trying to build.
And then I look at my bank account, I'm like, okay.
And then I just waited, I suppose, and had more and more of the same conversations.
They didn't want this kind of coverage anymore.
I can understand it.
When they wanted to start the company, they wanted to make Vice.
After they changed their course, they realized they had me under contract and they didn't want to look bad.
So then, come August of 2016, The same thing happens.
We should call.
And I'm like, here it is.
My contract is up.
Thank you for everything you've done for the company.
At this time, we will not be renewing your contract.
And I said, thank you and have a nice day.
And that was it.
That was done.
And that's when I started my own YouTube thing.
That's corruption.
Their goal was not to provide information to people to help them better their lives.
Their explicit goal, their expressed goal, was to give confirmation bias to people.
Now, I know the left will look at my content and say, Tim, you rag on Democrats all day and night, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, that's a fair point.
I mean, I personally, as a pundit and commentator, do.
I have my biases.
I rag on the Republicans in a different way, and not nearly as much as I do the Democrats.
But we're going to do something very, very different with our newsroom.
We're going to get an independent fact-checker, two or three, and they're going to be in a different office, outside of our newsroom, fact-checking the articles we write.
Because we're going to do it properly.
So, you know, when I heard your story, I was like, I've experienced a lot of the similar things, right?
When you had that video of the woman saying the audience wouldn't care about that.
You know, why should we report on Bitcoin?
The audience is not going to care about that.
I'm like, oh, I know exactly what they're saying.
And then when I thought it was interesting, too, because there's two sides to this.
You mentioned that they're just interested in the executive's opinion.
And that's also bad.
We don't want newsrooms where you have one executive saying, I just want propaganda for my worldview.
And we also don't want a newsroom that says, just feed the peasants whatever confirmation bias you can give them.
You want an eclectic group of real reporters with varying worldviews, seeking out the truth, seeking out information, and disseminating it.
And that means often you'll have something that'll be offensive to Republicans or offensive to Democrats.
Young people hate it.
Old people will hate it.
And then there'll be a lot of things that people appreciate.
A big exposé and a corporate malfeasance.
But when you have a CEO, you know what happens?
When you have an executive sticking his finger in the editorial?
I've seen it.
They say, oh, what's that story?
There's a large soda company that's doing something wrong?
Well, they sponsor us, so we're not gonna report on that.
And then they stick their finger into the news reporting and they shut down very important stories about corporate malfeasance.
In the inverse, you have people saying, just tell the audience whatever they want to hear, and you can't have either of that.
It's got to be about seeking truth and providing information whether people like it or not.
ivory hecker
Exactly.
In fact, there's another big story that I have been trying to get out to viewers.
There's a few things that I need to do to verify what's going on and get it out there.
And I presented this story to my bosses a couple months ago.
I'm not going to go into detail because I'm still working on this story.
I told my bosses, there's two people I need to track down on the ground.
I need to just run into them and have a mic and, hey, so what's going on?
And they said, absolutely not.
They were just like, oh, what?
You're crazy.
We would never just confront someone like that.
It was like, what?
That is journalism.
This is a potentially very dark story.
If what happened is true, that is dirty.
tim pool
Luke's got experience with running up to people.
luke rudkowski
It's real journalism.
Going up to people, door-stepping them, asking Oh, I can tell you that.
that's not scripted. Everything we see on the mainstream media right now is carefully written,
carefully scripted. Joe Biden gets pre-approved questions in front of him that he has cue cards
for that he answers. There is, and the only reason, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I remember
being at a lecture for Condoleezza Rice, and she was doing a Q&A allegedly from the general public,
and she was asked questions.
And then I remembered later that day, watching the Jon Stewart show, because this was a few years ago, the same exact questions that allegedly came from the audience was what Jon Stewart was asking Condoleezza Rice in this, you know, prescripted interview that she knew all the right talking points to sell her book.
ivory hecker
She probably sent him the questions and said, this is all you're allowed to ask me.
luke rudkowski
And this is their book.
This is all a big illusion.
And I remember being there right before you went from Vice to Fusion and Disney.
I remember, I was like, Timmy, no!
Don't join the dark side!
unidentified
Don't do it!
No!
tim pool
Wasn't Vice bad enough?
luke rudkowski
I was like, I already had enough conflicts with Vice.
There was some drama between me and them.
We even shot a full skit about us testing less lethal weapons on each other.
We sat down, got tear gassed together.
Oh, they ruined that.
And then we couldn't even, no one even saw that video footage.
tim pool
Well, that's different.
That was more like a major corporation that wanted to be cool and didn't understand anything I told them.
luke rudkowski
And what we did was really freaking cool.
tim pool
I was like, we want to go to a secure location where we can test out these police tactics in an open field.
They brought us to a parking lot of McDonald's and I'm like, we can't do this here.
You can't release tear gas in a parking lot.
What are you doing?
luke rudkowski
The feds showed up.
It's a long, crazy story.
It was wild, but what you experienced happening to you, the kind of golden handcuffs, happened to a lot of people.
Whether it's Philip Donahue, whether it's Jesse Ventura, there's a lot of people reporting how they get bought out by big companies and all they have to do is not do anything.
ivory hecker
Guys, when you said golden handcuffs, I was like, what a concept.
I almost felt in some ways like that's been something that's been happening to me.
The more I push back internally, I mean, I started aggressively pushing back against my bosses on these things.
Like, I lost all fear of confrontation with my bosses.
When I saw the depths to which they stooped late last summer, I was like, okay.
I don't want to be a part of this company anyway.
So I'm not going to tiptoe around my bosses.
And I started to, I started to call them out every chance I got.
Every time they did something sketchy, I would call them out.
And what started to happen is I, I started to like get any day off that I wanted.
I got like two weeks off over Christmas and New Year's.
And I, I never have to work weekends.
tim pool
Uh, it's just, So I don't want to ask you to answer this about you personally, but would you say that these local newsrooms in general, on average, pay well?
ivory hecker
In Houston, it's a decent amount.
I mean, it's not... Like relative to the... It's not low.
It's probably more than most people make.
tim pool
Right.
That's what I'm wondering, you know, for like somebody who lives in the Houston area, maybe they're a trades, they work a trade of some sort, or maybe they have, you know, they drive Uber, or they maybe work at a Walmart or something.
ivory hecker
Yeah, we're definitely making more than those people.
Yeah.
tim pool
This is what I find really fascinating about the whole thing is it's almost like the whole system relies on you just recognizing that you are a privileged elite and you don't want to leave the club, right?
I walk into Vice when I first started there.
A lot of those people got paid really poorly.
Let's be honest, like Vice didn't pay all that well.
They were notorious for it, but there are many news outlets.
In New York, I shouldn't even call them news outlets, they pay an insane amount of money.
60 grand to write listicles about, you know, like, different hamsters they saw on the internet.
It's like, why are they getting paid so much per year when the guy who cleans the toilets gets paid a third of that or half that?
Why is it that the guy who has to wait around in the sewer is getting paid less than the person who's fresh out of college with no experience writing trash for the internet?
I think it's because control of information is extremely important.
So they want people to look around and say, I don't want to be a garbage man.
They do.
Like, I mean, this is what we hear when we grow up, right?
They say, oh, if you don't go to school, you could end up being a garbage man.
My dad never told me that.
He said, garbage man might be very happy.
He probably makes great money.
Better than the guy at McDonald's.
McDonald's guy's probably happy too.
Who knows?
Some people probably aren't happy.
Happiness has nothing to do with that.
So I found that, you know, interesting.
But I think about how we teach our kids this.
You don't want to be a burger flipper.
You don't want to be a garbage man.
Then all of a sudden, these people, they get this privileged access where they're getting paid a bunch of money to do basically nothing.
It's not real work.
I'm talking about New York blogs.
I'm not talking about actual journalism.
They don't want to leave that club.
They don't want to step out of line.
There's money to be made.
So Golden Handcuffs works in a couple different ways.
When you get a contract, They tell you, hey, we're not going to use this story every single time you get one.
No, we're not interested.
No, we're not interested.
Have a nice day.
Then they just basically, you end up sitting in the corner of an office, getting paid decently, doing nothing.
The other kind of golden handcuffs is more of the peer pressure kind where it's like, well, you're not a bigot, are you?
You agree with this, don't you?
ivory hecker
Oh, and that is what is prolific in TV news.
tim pool
The wokeness?
ivory hecker
the the the oh you're not you're not it's basically you're you're not right wing at all are you yeah that was a slightly right leaning pitch there you pitched a story that uh What are your views?
And everyone in news is terrified to ever be thought to possibly lean to the right.
You have to be leaning to the left, which is so sad.
You shouldn't be leaning anywhere.
You should be just looking for the facts, period.
But in looking for what the audience has questions about, we as journalists have more access to the audience than ever before.
We get to just look at our own social media comments and see what the audience cares about and what they want answers to.
And what I saw at Fox is an audience screaming in the comment section.
So frustrated.
The Fox 26 viewers were so disgusted with Fox 26.
And their questions were what I started pitching in the meetings, in our morning editorial meetings.
And I watched the pitches get shot down, shot down, shot down.
tim pool
But isn't it weird then when you had that supervisor say that, you know, the 5 p.m.
slot doesn't make sense to talk about Bitcoin because the people who watched aren't interested in it?
It's weird that they're kind of doing both things.
Like, oh, we know our audience won't like the story.
We won't do it.
Meanwhile, you actually have people on your social media saying, hey, we'd like to know more about this.
Oh, we're not gonna do that either, right?
Seems more like it was an excuse for them to pick and choose what stories they want to promote.
Of course they didn't want to promote Bitcoin.
Bitcoin gives regular people a way out.
So I'll put it this way.
I'm not a financial advisor.
Do not take this to be financial advice, and I'm just gonna tell you about my opinions.
If you put money in a savings account, When I put money in a savings account, inflation devalues my currency.
My ability to buy things diminishes over time because of the way the Federal Reserve prints money.
When I put my money in Bitcoin, the value of the Bitcoin went up and my purchasing power actually increased.
Teaching poor people that they could find a way out, I have to imagine a lot of elites and rich people don't like the idea that poor people can escape the system they've created.
ivory hecker
Yeah, it's incredible.
You know, I just discovered Bitcoin in November and made some nice money from it.
tim pool
November?
ivory hecker
Yeah.
tim pool
That was a good time.
So it was at around $13,000 or so, and now it's at $40,000.
And all the naysayers and all these outlets keep wanting to say, oh no, it was at $65,000 and now it fell, so it's bad.
And I'm just like, Look, man, if someone gave me a dollar right now, would I put it in a savings account or would I put it in Bitcoin?
Because me personally, my personal opinion, not financial advice, is that that dollar is going to retain its value or increase.
If I put it in a savings account, it's going to inflate and become worthless.
ivory hecker
Exactly.
luke rudkowski
But Tim, poor people getting rich is a big no-no.
We can't allow that.
We can't allow people to have their own individual economic freedom and sovereignty through cryptocurrencies.
tim pool
No, that's it.
It's not about getting rich.
It's about, if I work, the value of my labor is retained.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
And I totally agree with you, and that's why we have seen such concerted efforts throughout the years.
I've been hearing them ever since Bitcoin went from 400 to 200 ever since it went from 2000 to 800.
It's always Bitcoin is over.
It's collapsing.
It's never going to become a thing.
It's horrible for the world.
It's causing pollution.
Meanwhile, look at the carbon created by the military industrial complex.
Look at the carbon created by gold mining.
And it's way higher than Bitcoin.
I previously just put out a chart on my Twitter account showing the exact amount of CO2 caused by all these other alternatives.
And Bitcoin is all the way down there, very low.
But yet again, Elizabeth Warren, is the one campaigning a huge war against Bitcoin, trying to of course control it, regulate it, and of course make sure that people can't enrich themselves some way or keep their money some way through the larger financial crimes that are happening against the public right now.
tim pool
Let's go back to that thing you were mentioning.
Let's see, I think I have this pull this up somewhere.
Yes, we have it from Grabian News.
Micah Brzezinski said, this is February 22, 2017.
Our job is to control exactly what people think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Everything's fine.
The economy's great.
Invest in the stock market.
Go buy a house.
Go get yourself a loan.
Everything's hunky-dory.
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
There's WMDs, weapons of mass destruction.
Osama Bin Laden is working with Iraq.
They're making yellow cake and they're creating little small nuclear devices that will be blowing up in New York City.
And then we could go on.
on to the two thousand and one when they told everyone the air was safe to breathe down
at ground zero when it wasn't it was filled with asbestos but the mainstream media knowingly
that previously just a few months ago was talking about the asbestos in the twin towers
being white elephants just months ago the New York Times before 9-11 was talking about
that they were now reporting the air is completely safe to breathe at ground zero even though
it was filled with asbestos and then that criminality there and then and you know I
ivory hecker
I'm sure it's because the local law enforcement said that.
luke rudkowski
No, no, no.
Chrissy Todd Whitman announced that after the EPA got their results, Fudged the data.
The data went through Condoleezza Rice.
Condoleezza Rice edited out that it was unsafe, that it was toxic, that it was going to kill people.
George W. Bush then published the findings, gave it out to the mainstream media according with the EPA guidelines, and the EPA announced that air is safe to breathe, even though they edited out the findings.
ivory hecker
So there you go.
You hear EPA, and that is God to the media.
tim pool
The media... Government says it's true.
ivory hecker
You must, if the government says it, you cannot question it.
Unless the... That's my experience.
luke rudkowski
I was in New York City.
I was breathing that dust, and I'm I'm pissed.
tim pool
All right, unless it's Trump.
When Trump was the government, everything he said was false.
So we get that 2003.
We get that 2001.
We get that 2003.
We get that all throughout the, you know.
luke rudkowski
Even Katrina, there was massive lies and total psyops there with what was happening on the
tim pool
ground.
But look at last October.
What happened?
The New York Post put out a story, Hunter Biden, his laptop, and social media shut the story
They said it was misinformation, we can't allow this.
The spokesperson from Facebook goes on Twitter and says, I'm blocking this information.
These people, this is a religion, this is cult-like behavior.
They don't care if it's true, they just, the priests of their new religion have said it, therefore they must act, and they shut the news down.
Then what happens after the election?
Oh, that laptop story?
Oh, that was true.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Like the media is going to tell you the truth.
luke rudkowski
And the Wuhan lab story which they were contradicting and now they're contradicting themselves once again with, you know, the admissions and the data that clearly suggests that.
Another thing I wanted to bring up, along with the golden handcuffs, A kind of analogy is what happened to Jesse Ventura, because he has an amazing story of working for MSNBC in 2003, where he was rightly anti-war.
He was against the war in Afghanistan.
He says, there's no way I will support it.
MSNBC bought him a full time show that he was supposed to do five days a week.
And they asked him, you're going to be pro-war.
He said, nope.
What happened?
He ended up finishing his contract by not doing a single show.
And he got a whole bunch of money for it.
tim pool
But they lock you down.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, they locked him down.
He couldn't say anything about it during that year.
He couldn't do any interviews about it.
They controlled every aspect of his existence.
We even, I can't believe we're saying this, but even Cenk Uygur had horrible experiences at MSNBC with them trying to control, I mean, if you're trying to control Cenk Uygur, And what and what his talking points are and he even came out rightfully so against MSNBC I mean wow you got you got a major problem when it comes to controlling the narrative controlling the agenda with closely
Psychologically approved written talking points that ... are meant to have an effect that effect predominantly is ... horrible for the general public and really good for the ... special interest for the billionaire class and the ... multinational globalist that benefit off of these horrible ... policies that hurt people more than they help them.
tim pool
One thing that people need to understand about how these newsrooms work is that when we hear this story about Jesse Ventura, people think that some big boss is coming down to the employees and saying, you will report as I tell you or else.
That happens, certainly.
But often what they do is they just recruit people they know to be either docile or who already believe in a certain ideology or agenda they're pushing.
So they will go to, they'll see someone tweeting a bunch, like tweeting non-stop about Palestine, saying Israel is bad.
Then they'll come to them and say, you're a really great reporter, would you like to be our Middle East reporter?
Knowing this person will frame every story as anti-Israel or pro-Palestine.
The inverse is true in many regards, depends on what the corporate entity wants, what kind of idea they want to push.
Why bother hiring someone and then trying to bribe them to say lies when you could find someone who's already willing to lie or is just really dumb anyway?
And they'll just say what you want to be said.
ivory hecker
Well, at Fox 26, every word that I would say on air was pre-approved by my boss, Lee, first.
unidentified
So, there was no... Tightly written scripts?
ivory hecker
Oh, yeah.
So, yeah.
I would be sent out to cover a story.
I would write a script of what I was going to say on TV.
And then I would send it to her, and she would make changes if she wanted to, and send the script back to me, and that's what I would say on TV.
luke rudkowski
So this is happening on local news?
Imagine the bigger effects on national news.
I mean, you could only imagine the level of control that goes through there.
tim pool
So you worked for Fox Corp, which is not Fox News.
ivory hecker
Uh, right.
I mean, Fox News and Fox Corp are both owned by the Murdochs.
tim pool
Okay.
ivory hecker
But, uh, uh, you know, they're owned by, uh, Rupert Murdoch.
Lachlan Murdoch is in charge of Fox Corp.
That's Rupert's son.
And Fox Corp has the, the Fox Sports, I believe Fox Sports, and then, and all the Fox Local owned stations.
tim pool
So it is still similar in that regard.
It's a Murdoch company.
ivory hecker
Yeah.
tim pool
You'd think that the media would be cheering for you, calling out Vox, right?
Like these leftists at, say, the Daily Beast would be saying, wow, you've exposed the Murdochs for who they really are, trying to force you to lie or withhold information.
That's not what they're doing.
It's really weird.
So I guess I'll just say it.
I think you made the mistake of giving an interview to the Daily Beast, right?
Is that what happened?
ivory hecker
Oh, yeah, I mean, I was being blown, the media was blowing me up on Monday, I guess it was.
And I guess, yeah, Tuesday.
And anyway, I was just like, oh, I was like, looking at all these emails.
And I was like, looking at what I recognize.
Oh, I recognize the name Daily Beast.
That's a media outlet.
Okay, sure.
Yeah, I'll talk.
Here's my number.
And then this lady, we had a very nice conversation.
And then later, someone's like, oh, there's a Daily Beast article.
Okay, I see the headline.
tim pool
It's an opinion piece.
ivory hecker
I, when I saw the headline, I instantly knew it was a smear piece.
I haven't even read the article.
If, if I, I'm not interested in smear piece.
I don't care if someone wants to write a smear, whatever.
Uh, cause I knew, I know who I am, but, uh, it's just, okay, I wasted my time on her, whatever.
tim pool
I think I have the smear piece pulled up.
I could be wrong.
It says, wait, this is why a local Fox reporter sabotaged her career.
Ivory Hacker told the Daily Beast on Tuesday that she's been terminated after claiming on air the station has muzzled her.
This is an opinion piece.
ivory hecker
I didn't even tell her I'd been terminated.
I told her this weird situation that happened where my bosses wouldn't tell me why they were asking for my gear back.
And then I received a text from a third party saying that my boss told him to tell me And I was like, okay, this is weird.
luke rudkowski
And these people are so nice to you, and they're so encouraging, and they're so friendly, and they're so supportive.
When they talk to you, when they interview you, and then the stuff they write, your eyeballs pop out.
I mean, we were hanging out around a couple journalists, and like, you know, we talked privately.
I was like, that guy's so full of utter I can't say it here, Family Friendly Show.
tim pool
You're being vague because you're describing many situations.
luke rudkowski
There's many of them, and a lot of them I'm like, that guy's going to write the most horrible, horrendous hit piece ever.
He is a disgusting, toothpaste, soul energy vampire.
unidentified
And then people around me, people around me, that one girl, she's like, No, they're gonna be great!
luke rudkowski
He's such a nice guy!
He's so friendly!
I'm like, you could feel and sense energy when you're in tune with it, and you just smell the scumbaggery through a lot of these low-life, psychopathic individuals that have sick, twisted personalities that try to befriend you in this fake, sick way in order to try to destroy you, and it's convincing.
A lot of people who aren't I'll reveal a little bit about this one situation I think Luke may be referring to.
tim pool
There was a point where this journalist who had agreed to do an interview left a wireless microphone on and active.
luke rudkowski
at a table and saying bye I'll see y'all later and people were still sitting around and it seemed like it was meant to catch audio off the record when we when he left so he could record all of our conversation I'm like there's a hot microphone a wireless hot microphone I forgot who found it but I was absolutely furious about it because who goes into your home and leaves a hot microphone inside of your home essentially wiretapping us when when we were having private conversations But, but, the response was, oh, it was just an accident, we
tim pool
forgot it was there, it's no big deal.
Sure, sure.
And so I'm not implying anything by it.
I'll also say, it's not that I'm condemning that completely outright, because, look, Project
Veritas does undercover reporting.
But there is something different about you agreeing to sit down with a journalist who
then tries to sneak a microphone into your house, versus you get caught undercover.
But I'm not trying to act like they're completely different.
But the issue is this guy came in with an agenda.
We knew he had an agenda.
He was extremely weaselly and it was very obvious the way he was asking questions, the way he was framing things.
And too many people are trusting of these people to think So I'll put it this way.
When your video comes out with Project Veritas, what did Fox26 say?
They said it was a falsely, deceptively edited video and misinformation or whatever.
ivory hecker
Yeah, but from a disgruntled former employee, implying that because I was fired by Fox I'm doing this.
Everyone knows that's false.
I did what I did live on TV while I was working for Fox.
So it's an obvious false statement from Fox.
tim pool
Maybe that's some defamation.
ivory hecker
Why would they make themselves look so bad?
tim pool
But so, you know, they try to make that claim that when you actually hear people saying these words that they're deceptively editing or whatever, what these journalists do is they mishmash quotes from you so they can claim you literally said them.
And then they can publish whatever they want.
They can use various tricks so that I can take a quote from you and then I can edit dot dot dot and take a different quote and mash them together so it makes it sound like you believe insane things.
They do that.
They do it all the time.
People don't realize it because they assume the media must be telling the truth.
ivory hecker
It is easy to do.
luke rudkowski
There was a famous comedian caught doing this in Australia with the reporter, Avi, I forgot his exact full name, but he secretly recorded the interview.
And I had many media publications come to me and be like, we want to do an interview.
I'm like, okay, I'm going to record it too.
As soon as I say that, no.
That guy that we were just referring to was an absolute liar.
He did a huge hit piece.
We don't even want to mention him by name.
We don't want to give him any more attention.
But again, a lot of these... Major mainstream publications.
Yeah, major mainstream publications.
And they're so... I smell these guys out like a bloodhound.
Because it's so telling.
It's so true.
And you must have to be... It's just hard to believe.
A lot of people have it...
I'll give you a real example.
They wouldn't do it themselves.
I wouldn't do something that they were doing.
tim pool
I'll give you a personal example, and I'll call out the journalist by name.
Andrew Marantz.
He came to do an interview with me at my apartment writing for, I think this was The New Yorker?
Yeah, it was The New Yorker.
And I told him this big, long story.
I was talking for quite some time.
He recorded it, actually.
He took one story, where I had a quote, and a different story with a different quote, and he put them together.
lydia smith
It's gorgeous.
tim pool
To make completely different context.
lydia smith
Amazing.
tim pool
When Vice, because it was about Vice, saw the quote, they got mad and said, that is not true.
That quote isn't true.
So what New Yorker did was they removed it, but instead of admitting fault, They said a quote from Tim Poole has been removed because it contained errors.
It wasn't my error.
But then what happened was many people in media started saying Tim lied and provided false quotes to the New Yorker because the New Yorker should have come out and said Andrew Marantz.
Andrew Marantz is a lying, two-faced, duplicitous, fake reporter who makes things up and then doesn't correct himself.
They could have done that.
He could have said, I'm sorry I made a mistake and I wrote down notes, I was an accident.
I talked to him on the phone and I said, bro, you have a recording of this.
You came to my house, you turned the recorder on.
And he was like, too bad.
And I'm like, dude, the story I told you, I've told on my YouTube channel before.
The story that I told you, I have told numerous times.
The quotes you mash together in no way reflect the story I've told.
And he was like, well, what we said about removing it was fair and true.
It contained errors.
And I said, yeah, your errors, so put that it was your error.
And he goes, we're not going to do that.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, welcome to the media and then he's writing this like trivial meaningless drama that has absolutely no merit on
any real life or Anybody's else existence and I'm like, how do you call
yourself a journalist? Like how do you look yourself in the mirror?
I know I know but but it's just hard to fathom how someone could be so duplicitous
I had the Southern Poverty Law Center do the same thing about me.
Take two different statements, pull them together as if I was calling for a violent revolution, when I was specifically calling for a non-violent evolution of people waking up, informing themselves, and helping out their fellow brothers and sisters in starting communities.
They took two separate quotes, put them together as if I called for a violent revolution, and they put that on their website, and they put me a part of their patriot hit list.
ivory hecker
I'm like, are you kidding me?
luke rudkowski
Like, I never said this.
I recorded the conversation.
There's a video, there's a YouTube video that they took it from, and the two exact quotes are in two different positions, and you just conflated it to try to make me look like somebody I'm not.
ivory hecker
So that is deceptive editing.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
ivory hecker
And what Project Veritas is doing is not deceptive editing.
And the new soundbites I just put out today, a ton of direct from their own lips, my bosses, It spells out.
There was no deceptive editing in what Project Veritas just released.
Okay.
Go listen to my new video.
tim pool
It's not real news anymore.
They are corporations that seek to make money off of infotainment.
So Project Veritas, a non-profit, doesn't make money off of infotainment.
It makes money off of exposing corruption.
You can argue that, like Southern Poverty Law Center, oh, they make money when they get these stories accusing people of being racist.
Oh, Project Veritas makes money when they can accuse someone of malfeasance.
I suppose the difference is that Project Veritas puts out videos where people's mouths are moving, whereas Southern Poverty Law Center just writes whatever they want, kind of makes things up.
Actually, I will say outright makes things up.
They had to retract an article about me and a bunch of other leftists, which is really funny.
They claimed, I love it, I love it, Southern Poverty Law Center, you guys deserve this one.
They claimed that I was alt-right.
I'm, as most people know, it's a meme because I say I'm mixed-race so often, and so I'm definitely not.
And they claimed that I went to a Holocaust deniers conference in Iran, which is like the most insane thing to accuse someone of doing.
Like, there's sanctions on this country.
It's very difficult for Americans to go there.
What are you talking about?
Well, it turns out their source for this was a conspiracy theory website for Holocaust deniers that had been deleted and someone archived.
And the Southern Poverty Law Center thought that was a credible source to publish on their hate watch or whatever and accuse me of actually going there.
And I remember talking to a lawyer on the phone.
He's like, now this is important.
You know, if there's going to be a defamation case here, you need to tell me if you've ever, if you've actually gone to something like this, or is there any way that this could be construed as just his opinion on the matter?
And I was like, I've never been to Iran.
This is insane.
It was a conspiracy theory website.
And he's like, okay, all right.
And then the Southern Poverty Law Center had to retract that.
Their goal is just to make money off of shot content.
ivory hecker
And here's the really sad thing is that the media puts a lot of weight on what the Southern Poverty Law Center says.
When I was with the NBC affiliate in Minneapolis, there was a story that I was, there was actually anti-jihad protest happening that I was assigned to, and the group who was protesting jihad, the Southern Poverty Law Center had listed as a terrorist group, I guess, or a hate group.
And so my TV station actually told me, don't go interview them.
We don't want to give a hate group time of day on camera.
So because this little law center said that this group is a hate group, they were about to get zero airtime.
They couldn't even explain themselves why they were protesting jihad.
And so I objected.
I was like, absolutely not.
I am going to interview the people doing this protest, and I'm going to interview the people they're protesting.
And I'm going to show exactly both sides.
And when I put it together, I had both sides going back and forth, and it was incredibly compelling.
And it turns out these people were protesting the abuse of children, they were protesting
child marriages, they were protesting oppression of women. That's what these
people were protesting.
They were doing the opposite of hate. They were standing up for women's rights.
Which, by the way, because jihad... there's different layers of jihad.
Some people, there's different layers, but they were protesting the radical jihad.
They were taking a stand against it.
But anyway, I went and interviewed the Islamic group that stands firmly with jihad, too.
It was a very interesting story, but I had to put my foot down on that story.
But a lot of reporters and news people are pushovers.
They don't want to interject and say that I want to interview this person because, God forbid, oh, she likes to give hate groups the time of day.
No, we're trying to get to the bottom of the truth on this.
tim pool
Now, when I worked for Fusion, there was a pitch from one of our producers.
They wanted to go and film a Klan training, like actual Klan members, of which there's very few.
There's a few thousand in the country remaining, I think.
And people at Fusion said, we don't want to give a hate group coverage.
It's bad.
Well, Vice ended up doing something similar.
They embedded with a bunch of alt-right and white nationalists in Charlottesville and won a bunch of awards for it.
They actually had a reporter go into the hotel room of white nationalists, allow these white nationalists to say any and everything, and they won an award for it.
So long as you are part of their cult, and for whatever reason they accept it, then you get to do it.
But if you challenge them in any way, if you're not bending the knee to their indoctrination, then they'll remove you and say you can't.
ivory hecker
I feel like the media is so easily manipulated.
I think there's a lot of innocent, naive media members who don't realize they're being manipulated by groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, who is peer-pressuring them into not talking to people who were actually standing up for individuals' rights.
luke rudkowski
After there were some lawsuits, the SPLC took down their slander of me because they were getting sued left and right.
But Chris Matthews of MSNBC on his primetime program said that there's a rise of racist right-wing teabaggers with groups like We Are Change.
And I'm like, wait, what?
Are you kidding me?
So I made sure to doorstep and to confront Chris Matthews face-to-face, and I was like, hey, Chris, you called my independent news organization that strives to do independent reporting, a right-wing racist tea-bagging group.
Explain yourself.
Why?
This is slander.
He's like, I never said that.
I was like, yes, you did.
He's like, no, I didn't.
I don't know.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And I'm like, OK, here, wait, let me show you the clip.
I literally pulled up the clip.
And as he's watching it, he's like, oh, crap.
And I'm like, answer right now, because you slandered, you lied about me to the entire world.
Answer to it right now.
He had no answer.
He was running away, scurrying away.
And I'm like, you know, these people have no spines.
They can't back up what they say.
You can see the video right now.
We Are Change.
Chris.
Sorry.
Chris Matthews.
I was confusing him with Chris Martinson.
But yeah, yeah.
ivory hecker
MSNBC.
luke rudkowski
We Are Change.
ivory hecker
He sounds a lot like my bosses.
Every time I would confront them about something they said, they'd be like, I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
I'm like, well, I recorded you.
In fact, early on this, when they really started going after me, it just, blindside, I was so confused.
You know, I've had three years of great relationships with my bosses.
Made no sense.
So I did start recording to protect myself, but I actually emailed them soundbites of themselves.
To prove to them that I was recording them and that they were lying.
Oh, you're saying you didn't say this?
Here's your recording that you said that.
And here's the thing, they continued to go after me even after I did that.
But I have a funny story of how I first heard about you.
It wasn't until after this started happening that I first heard about you.
Because I was, you know, I was zoned into the corporate media life.
I don't do alternative media like you guys, right?
But so I had just And it was like two weeks after I had covered Dr. Verone's Hydroxychloroquine and they came after me like none other.
And I went to climb a mountain.
My hobby is producing these songs that I write because songs come to me through inspiration.
And so I was like, let me just do something with these.
So last year I just started doing something with the music that I wrote.
Anyway, I had gone to Colorado.
I had written a song with the metaphor of mountains in it, so I wanted to shoot a music video in the mountains.
This is my hobby.
Let's go all out.
Let's film a music video.
So I'm climbing the mountain with my cameraman, and I was telling him about this insanity that I'm dealing with at Fox, and how I'm having to record them to protect myself.
And he was like, yeah, he's like, you should just get out of there as soon as possible and be just like Tim Pool.
Just do the Tim Pool thing.
And I was like, who's that?
And so then he told me about your YouTube.
And then I saw this huge cult following you have.
And I was like, wow.
And then I started watching you.
And I was like, wow, he does great YouTube shows.
This is way more informative than our newscasts.
tim pool
Well, now I'm trying to get more and more journalists to do original reporting.
And so we just had a conversation with one guy who's going to do a lot of original policy and culture stuff, and it's going to be fantastic.
Because I can't count on these other outlets to do it.
You know, it's funny how we read a lot of these outlets and we assume the news is true if it makes sense, right?
CNN can put out a story, right?
They had a story today.
China sends 28 warplanes to invade Taiwan.
China sends 28 warplanes to invade Taiwanese airspace, crossing over this, like, demarcation line or something.
And I just assume it's true, even though I know CNN lies all the time.
I mean, it's foreign policy.
Why wouldn't it be true?
It's the Gell-Mann amnesia effect.
The only problem is it's something else.
It's Gell-Mann cognitive dissonance.
Because I can come out all day and night and say CNN lies left and right.
They're full of garbage.
And then when I see a news story about foreign policy, I can only assume it's true.
I'm like, are they lying about this now?
Well, you know what, probably, but what am I supposed to do?
ivory hecker
do. That's all I can do. It's incredible when you really think like how much how much of the news
I'm seeing is even factual and I think a lot of this a lot of it is not the journalists being I
mean a lot of journalists like I said I think are it's a combination of of lazy overworked
understaffed and and just journalists who don't want to seriously dig in.
I think journalists are very easily manipulated by their sources.
And I think some of these fake news stories we're getting are from aggressive sources who know how to manipulate the reporter.
tim pool
Have you ever read the book, Trust Me, I'm Lying, by Ryan Holiday?
ivory hecker
No, I haven't.
tim pool
That guy's a genius.
unidentified
He is, yeah.
tim pool
You should definitely check out that book.
He talks about how easy it was to manipulate the media.
One of my favorite stories from this guy.
Ryan Holiday.
Check him out.
He's awesome.
He's got a podcast.
unidentified
What is it?
tim pool
The Daily Stoic?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
He's amazing.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
He was promoting this guy, Tucker Max.
That was his name, right?
Tucker Max?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
tim pool
Okay, well, was that his name, Luke?
luke rudkowski
Um, I don't know.
I'm looking at- Yes!
tim pool
Alright, we're getting a yes from the other camera guy.
So, uh, he was promoting this guy, and so he came up with a really good idea.
They bought a billboard, and I could be ruining- I could be getting the story wrong, it's been a little while, but the story is basically this.
lydia smith
Yeah, Tucker Maxx.
tim pool
They put up a billboard, and then they personally vandalized the billboard.
Then, the next day, he calls the radio station and he goes, I'm driving down the street and I see this billboard, it's all vandalized, apparently this Tucker Max guy's like a bigot and a misogynist.
So then the local media was like, ooh, what happened?
Somebody vandalized?
So the media got on it, reported this story, giving free press to Tucker Max, and then I guess they organized the protest against themselves so that they could generate press for his book or movie or whatever, and it worked.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
It is so incredibly easy to manipulate the press, and I think that's one of the big problems.
When the media is decaying, struggling to make money as the landscape changes, and they're easily manipulated by activist groups, it just becomes an activist apparatus.
That's what it is.
Either it's gonna sell more waffles or whatever from the Eggo Corporation or whatever, whatever company's trying to sell, so they gotta make the most punchy confirmation, biased news, or the activists have taken over, like at the New York Times.
We saw Barry Weiss quit because she's like, people in New York Times are nervous and it's being taken over by these indoctrinated, this cult mentality and stuff.
So now, what do we get?
Well, when you read the news, you're probably just reading ideological garbage.
Especially when it comes to domestic stuff.
ian crossland
It's what it's been like for millennia.
Like I think about Julius Caesar, he'd go to battle and then he'd write the history report about what the battle was about.
He'd write about who the enemies were, if he even wrote about them at all.
And I mean, we didn't even have what's called a press until they invented the printing press, which is like 500 year old technology, the idea of a press.
And then even in the last 80 or a hundred years that we had it be, you'd be allowed to speak out against your government, like vocally with the American democracy before you just get killed or put in prison.
tim pool
But it is different.
You know, history being written by the victors is not the same as a massive media apparatus writing things that serve a political goal in the end, right?
If Caesar was going out telling everybody that he had already won the war before it started, or that, you know, making up lies to guarantee and manipulate the public, that's more akin—and I'm sure many of you— Yeah, they would do that stuff.
Right, exactly.
You want to control the population.
The difference is subtle, I suppose, but you make a good point.
It's always about these powerful groups that want to manipulate poor people, keep knowledge away from them so they can't rise up, so they can't protect themselves, and so they're working basically as serfs, or I guess back in Rome, slaves, for the Empire.
ian crossland
Think it goes back to I mean conspiracy alert the Bible Lucifer the light bringer who gave the technology of light to the people I don't know that he did that.
Well, they call him the light bringer.
So I'm trying to think why would they call him the light bringer?
Well, well if you give electricity to people like Zeus had electricity at that light and you didn't read it You probably shouldn't make assumptions about what the story I'm all over the place, Tim!
luke rudkowski
Well, if you look even at the history of the printing press, this was something that was pushed back by the establishment, by the powers that be, that didn't want the printing press because they didn't want people reading certain scriptures, certain documents, because it empowered them.
And whenever we have new technology come, it gives us a small window, a small opportunity to actually talk to one another, to find out what the world is really like, and One of the most important powers you could have in this world is controlling the free flow of information.
And then you could usually correlate in a society how free the press is to how free the people are.
And if people are under a press that is tightly controlled by special interests, by intelligence agencies, by people like Udo Ufkert, who was a prominent German Journalists who openly talked about how the CIA was right in writing press releases that the mainstream media was just regurgitating whenever you have a tightly controlled Mainstream media that just regurgitates the talking points of the special interest of the powers-that-be you have a people that aren't free and You expect me to do to do what research the press release and actually write a news story about it Okay, listen listen
tim pool
I'm busy.
I've got IKEA doing a delivery later today, so I want to go home early.
Let me just copy and paste the press release from Joe Biden onto the website so I can leave already.
Heaven forbid I have to actually fact-check them in.
That's how newsrooms operate, basically.
ivory hecker
Yeah, because if one of the facts turns out to make Joe Biden look bad, That could cast accusations at you as a journalist.
That's right.
And that's why I'm putting out these recordings, especially the one that I just put out tonight, because I want to show why reporters self-censor themselves to protect themselves.
They want to avoid going through exactly what I went through.
A lot of reporters live in fear, fear of losing their job or being hurt some way by their bosses.
tim pool
Substack.
Do you have a sub stack yet?
ivory hecker
No.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe you do that.
You know, it's working out for Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracy.
ivory hecker
Oh, that's right.
Okay, someone was sending me something about that.
tim pool
People can throw you a couple bucks and you just write stories.
And then you're supported by your readers who expect you to do a good job.
And if you do a bad job, you lose their support.
Now, there's a problem there, too, obviously.
If you write a bunch of articles talking about how Trump is, you know, God Emperor, obviously you'll get Trump superfans who will sign up.
And the moment you say he's not, many of those people will leave.
So there's still a confirmation bias problem in memberships as well.
That's what we saw with the ACLU.
The ACLU defended the right to free speech of the Unite the Right people in Charlottesville, and they got attacked for it and panicked.
They had gained so many new members donating monthly because they challenged Trump on his travel ban.
So then when they defended Unite the Right, they started bleeding members like crazy who were like, oh, you're supporting bigots.
So then the ACLU flipped.
And now they're this weird organization that claims to protect free speech, but very much does not defend civil rights at all.
We call it the Anti-Civil Liberties Union.
Yeah, because they've certainly become a vile, disgusting organization that actually seeks
to suppress rights and not support them.
The same is true for Free Press, my favorite organization.
FreePress.net.
What do you think they're all about?
Well, they had a big campaign to make sure Alex Jones was banned from the internet, because
you know, that's what a free press is all about.
Banning wrong think.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
tim pool
The modern era is a creepy time, you know, but I'm glad that we can have these conversations, at the very least.
For as long as we can have them, because, you know, we're constantly under threat of getting banned.
A lot of people don't think they're like, oh, Tim says he's gonna ban, it's never gonna happen.
It's like, dude, we've already got a warning on this channel.
We're seeing what they're doing to Steven Crowder.
We're seeing what they're doing to smaller channels.
It just so happens that I'm a bit more milquetoast than many of those people, but it's only a matter of time.
The narrative must be protected at all costs.
What YouTube and many of these other big tech companies want is they want to homogenize perspective.
They want to get rid of anything that falls outside of the narrative so they can easily control it.
It's like Micah Brzezinski said, it's our job to control exactly what people think.
She said it verbatim.
Let's just pull it up again so no one can say I'm lying from Grabian.
Our job is to control exactly what people think.
Oh, she came out later and said, no, no, no, I meant not!
Shut up, lady.
We know what you think you are.
We know what you think you're doing.
We know what MSNBC is doing or CNN.
They lie.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and she, her father was a very prominent person that played a very key role in American
politics and American geopolitics.
So being if Brzezinski that was Jimmy Carter's presidential advisor, a part of the Trilateral
Commission Bilderberg Council Council on Foreign Relations and really pulled a lot of strings
When you look at organizations like the Council on Foreign Relations, there's a reason why they allow so many journalists a part of their secretive club.
There's a reason they have so many off-the-record meetings between people in high positions of power and the mainstream media, and they work kind of in tandem here.
And that's why, you know, we have to understand here, There's so much power, there's so much cause and effect by information, and when you could tightly control it, you could do so many amazing things, but you could also do so many awful things.
And when you look at the history of the mainstream media, I mean, if there's an honest, good-working YouTube moderator out there, which I doubt, but if there is, Just please please look at the record of the mainstream ... media and look how many times they were wrong and look ... how many times independent media has been right calling ... things out small mom-and-pop operations have been calling ... things out correctly for so long we finally have the ... opportunity to be heard and that opportunity is closing ... down every single day with.
Algorithms, de-platforming, de-monetizations, there's so many things standing in the way.
And that's why, you know, what you're doing with TimCast.com, what other people are doing, starting their own platforms, starting their own services, and your guys' participation in it is absolutely crucial because you need to not only vote with your dollar, but vote with your attention, with your clicks, with your shares, and it means everything.
ivory hecker
And I really think we're seeing that happen.
I think that the ratings and the readers and everything is moving away from the establishment media to the alternative media.
This is the era of the independent journalist.
tim pool
I don't think we're the alternative media anymore.
I think collectively we're getting more traffic, aren't we?
ivory hecker
Exactly, that's what I said.
Collectively.
I think they would consider you an alternative, but here's the thing.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's like an old man saying, get off my lawn.
ivory hecker
Exactly, but who cares what the establishment, anyone thinks, because the viewers, the actual citizens, are gravitating to the truth seekers.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, I think one of the biggest problems that we have in society, people getting scared of what the establishment thinks.
Who cares?
Literally, who cares?
luke rudkowski
Or having a hit piece on them, which now is a badge of honor.
Now I see the mainstream media trashing someone, I'm going to be like, okay, well, let me do a little bit of research and not believe them point blank, because there's usually an agenda to try to trash or bring someone down, or even just an egotistical push to bring someone down for the algorithm.
So there's a lot of manipulation happening behind the scenes, being aware of it, being conscious, being able to take a few moments to breathe and take a step back and look at the larger picture.
It's something that more and more people need to do.
And sadly, the mainstream media doesn't like that.
They don't want you thinking.
They don't want you conscious.
They don't want you in a state that you're not in a constant fear state, that you're not in a constant stress state, that you're not in a constant consumer state.
Because bad consumers is bad for business, bad for advertisers, bad for the overall agenda.
ivory hecker
It's so interesting, the harder they push for that, they're getting the opposite of what they're trying for.
It's freaking people out and causing them to think for themselves and seek out answers for themselves.
tim pool
But there is a weird divide where some people, I think, know something's wrong, but they refuse to speak out because they're cowards.
ivory hecker
Oh, 100%?
In the media?
Absolutely.
tim pool
So, you know what, man?
I'd love for the people who recognize what's happening to finally step up, speak out, be brave, and contact James O'Keefe.
100%.
And expose corruption.
ivory hecker
And let me tell you, we've already heard from several insiders in newsrooms who are saying they're ready to kind of follow in my footsteps.
tim pool
So there's going to be more exposés?
ivory hecker
Uh, if, if these people follow through and look, I'm going to be there for them.
I know James is going to be there for them.
tim pool
Like whoever does, I'll hire everybody.
ivory hecker
Seriously.
There's so many, there's so many people who are ready to hire you and donate to you and support you if you want to.
Break away from this media, which is really a cult and cults worship something and what they worship is the narrative.
Break free, be a true journalist.
It's really hard to be a true journalist in the corporations.
In some beats, in some news beats, you can do great journalism.
Like the crime beat, they would let me cover crime, no problem.
tim pool
I don't know about that so much anymore.
I mean, there's this really funny story where they said that there's a lot of memes going around about stop Asian hate and the perpetrators being black men.
And this report, I think it was from NBC News, said, but when we actually looked at all known suspects in the media, we found 75% were white.
And therein lies the problem.
Many outlets have straight-up said they will not reveal the race of an individual if it would, you know, produce a harmful stereotype or contribute to one.
So you want to cover crime, don't be surprised if, you know, there was this moment in Sweden where a guy committed a crime and so the media outlet pixelated his face and then changed the tone behind the pixels because, you know, we want to avoid racist stereotypes.
luke rudkowski
It's like, uh, or recently it was the Austin... There was a shooting in in texas in the newspaper didn't want to describe the
suspect that was a large shows that large that people are looking for that shot up a
nightclub and and then and then newspaper refused to even did to talk about
ivory hecker
how he was i had a school because i had a star work i had a co-worker who did
that in minneapolis when i was at the nbc
she covered a crime story This guy is on the loose after committing a vicious crime.
Typically, when we're doing that, at the end of the story, we say, hey guys, please look out for this guy.
Here's his full description.
Call police if you see him.
She refused to do that part of the story, helping catch this criminal because he was black and she didn't want to say a description like that.
And she now works for CNN.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
CNN probably recruited her the moment they heard that she did that.
They were like, that's the kind of... No, but I'm not kidding.
They probably said, someone who will just say what she's told to say without arguing, without needing to be bribed.
I mean, look, you get a real journalist, and how much money you got to pay them to bend them?
You get an ideologue and you can be like, we're actually docking your pay because you're racist.
Please go tell the world and they'll say, okay.
luke rudkowski
CNN just hired that guy that got caught spanking it.
I mean, they have no integrity at all.
And if you really, this is advice for the viewers out there.
If you want to see what someone is about, look at the fruits of their labor.
CNN attacks grandmothers who make Facebook pages, attacks other journalists, attacks people like us, independent journalists.
They punch Down.
When you look at independent media, when you look at other people that do actual reporting, they're punching up.
They're going after actual institutions with actual power that actually have an effect on your life.
You look at who gets targeted, that's how you should judge a person and judge a news organization.
tim pool
It's not just the media.
I mean, it's the cultural left, the Democratic Party.
What are they going after?
This tiny sect of Trump supporters as evil?
And it's like, you guys control all the cultural institutions in the government.
You're the big guy stomping on the little guy.
But I absolutely love how CNN went to the home of an old woman and started yelling questions at her in full view of her house and address.
And that's okay.
Social media, Twitter got no problem with it.
James O'Keefe blurs the address and confronts somebody banned.
All right, that was Project Veritas.
I believe that's what got their official account banned.
Then eventually, Twitter does ban James O'Keefe.
You know, I think it's fairly obvious.
James O'Keefe, Project Veritas, all of the great reporters, they do great journalism, empowered by people like you who blow the whistle and call out the malfeasance.
And that's really scary to the establishment.
It's like they defeated journalism.
These evil demonic individuals were probably laughing that journalism had finally been conquered and was over.
Then along comes small independent channels, small organizations like Project Veritas, and they grow and they're becoming more successful.
Now look how panicked they are.
They never know if whoever they're talking to could be undercover for Project Veritas.
I've never cared, you know why?
The things I say privately are the same things I say on this show.
ivory hecker
Exactly.
tim pool
That's how I feel now don't get me wrong like the narrative of you have nothing to hide
You have nothing nothing to worry about is very bad when it comes to an authoritarian police state
But you look at these companies and how worried they are about how someone could be Veritas and the security
protocols they got to do and it's kind of like Be honest
Like, if somebody from Veritas secretly recorded somebody who worked here and said something dumb, I'd be like, well, I guess I said something dumb.
I don't know.
There you go.
ivory hecker
Exactly, exactly.
ian crossland
It's kind of like they're functioning as a paramilitary corp, the media.
Like, they're an arm of the secretive military.
Because if you're in the military, you can't say whatever.
You have clearance and classification and you're under strict orders not to.
It's all, it seems like they've been, they've been co-opted to do the job of the military.
It really is.
tim pool
I mean, it's kind of obvious.
generational warfare and now here these people are whipping people into shape
and getting them in line and telling them what to think and what to do.
You know what's funny is when it comes to the second amendment, you get these
anti-gun democrats who are like, do you really think you're going to go to war
They got nuclear missiles.
And the first response is, you can't occupy a street corner with a nuclear missile, are you dumb?
You look at Afghanistan-Vietnam.
It's an individual with a gun which can control a neighborhood or a building or resources.
And then I think about it.
You don't need to occupy the street at all if you occupy the minds of the people.
If the only information they can get access to tells them whatever you want them to think, well, there you go.
You know, and I'll mention this, because I used to watch Star Trek The Next Generation all the time.
I've seen every episode a million times, but before the show, and people commented I should watch Stargate SG-1.
So I started watching Stargate SG-1, and in this show, advanced aliens pretend to be gods to control and manipulate human populations to use them as slaves.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
I'm talking about dudes.
Why I brought up Lucifer earlier.
Just saying.
tim pool
Well, so, but the idea is they don't need to use weapons to subjugate these people.
They've convinced them of an ideology and those people are willingly serving now.
ian crossland
I think that I think that we're doing that without realizing it.
I mean, we worship the dollar.
ivory hecker
100 percent.
luke rudkowski
100 percent.
Well, the alien disclosures are coming very soon with.
tim pool
It's going to be nothing.
luke rudkowski
With the New York Post just reporting, quote, UFOs could threaten U.S.
security, politicians say after Capitol Hill briefing.
ivory hecker
I'm suspicious that's a distraction.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
When you have Barack Obama and Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about how there's UFOs out there and how we need more money for the military, you should start asking yourself some questions about what's really going on here, because it's not usually what they say.
ivory hecker
Right.
ian crossland
Oh, they're using the UFOs as an excuse to get more military.
luke rudkowski
Barack Obama made a specific statement saying, you know, we're gonna find out that aliens are real, and this is going to mean we're gonna have to increase the military budget.
That's his own words from... But what if aliens are real?
Could be.
There's a possibility in there.
We have to be intellectually honest.
I think there is a big chance that they are.
tim pool
But what if Obama is basically Ozymandias, staging a fake alien invasion to force people to unite?
ivory hecker
And give up their freedoms, like in the pandemic.
I just hope that's not the case, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Well, we'll see.
Time will play out.
But the best friend you could have is skepticism in this modern day and age where information is war.
I think people need to become more responsible.
First Amendment was first, Second Amendment is second.
They protect each other.
They're very integral.
And people in gated communities and private bodyguards shouldn't be telling people that
they need to be disarmed.
tim pool
I think people need to become more responsible.
You know, as much as we can rag on the authoritarian move for the Great Reset, I can certainly
say while authoritarianism, the manipulation of people through lies and deception, all
that's wrong.
Hey, man, people need to start becoming more responsible for themselves, self-reliant.
Everybody should go out, you know, be, like, more responsible for the food they eat.
We grow grass in our lawns.
That's a stupid idea.
We should have gardens with vegetables that you can grow, and you can be responsible for some of the food you eat.
You should exercise, you should read books, get away from the cities, pollute less, be, you know, more in tune with what it's like to actually survive and be responsible for yourself.
And you know what, this criticism is mostly towards people in cities because the people in the rural areas basically know all this already.
The people in cities live in cubicles stacked on top of each other in cities that smell like sour milk and then complain about the problems they've created.
These people need to get with the program and learn how to be human again.
ivory hecker
You practice what you preach.
When did you move out here?
We're in the country.
tim pool
Well, so someone chatted at the beginning of the show that, you know, I only decided
to move out to the middle of nowhere once I had money.
And it's like, I moved to the middle.
I was on a farm in the Redlands, which is basically 40 miles outside of Miami.
I don't want to pretend like it's the most rural place ever, but I lived on a farm with
chickens.
Like, this was 2015.
This is when I was working for Fusion.
I didn't want to be in a city back then.
And so I did move back to the New York area and then slowly moved away.
And now we're more in the middle of nowhere, but not in the middlest of nowhere.
I will say, once Starlink goes live, we'll probably go way more middle of nowhere.
But we're trying to strike the balance between people can fly here pretty easily, and we're kind of far away from, you know, big cities.
So we've got a big garden, we're growing vegetables, we've got chickens.
Man, so we got one chicken, it was a rehome, laying eggs every day.
We got too many eggs already!
Because we don't eat eggs every day so we had like six today and I was like wow so I'd like I got to eat these eggs and then but we've got six other we've got five other chickens turns out one of them's a rooster so we're gonna have tons of eggs all the time we're gonna have like six eggs per day and that's that's just from the chickens eating the bugs the bugs eat the grass and they give us eggs yeah being responsible more for ourselves that's what I'm saying you know We are getting solar panels installed.
We're trying to be more energy efficient.
We have our own water system.
We want to have our own electrical system.
When I talk about environmentalism, I mean it.
You know, we have a curriculum.
Oh yeah, but we use these corn plastic biodegradable cups that aren't like regular cups.
You look at these celebrities that talk about climate change, they don't actually mean it.
They fly in private jets.
They live in these big mansions.
They consume ridiculous amounts of power.
They buy beachfront property while claiming the beaches are going to be wiped out by rising ocean water.
And I'm like, that's just hypocrisy.
You know what?
Too many people live in these cities.
They're gluttonous.
They do very little work in exchange for tons of money while thinking they're poor.
And I'm not trying to be mean to people who live in cities who think they're poor, but man, If you live in a big city and you can walk outside and go for a buck, get a cheeseburger, you're doing better than 99.9% of the entire planet.
And now they've lived in such a way that they've lost touch with what it actually means to be responsible for your own health and safety and security.
They've deferred everything to the mainstream media to tell them what to do and what to think, and then they complain about it.
They complain about the system instead of realizing they're being lied to, and it's time to roll up your sleeves and actually do some hard work.
ivory hecker
Amen.
I think people are getting that more than ever.
More people than ever are not trusting the media.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I'm optimistic.
You know, I'm fairly pessimistic in terms of talking about war and conflict and especially with, you know, Joe Biden saying the Fed, you know, people should snitch on their family members and the Feds wanting to go after extremists.
But I think about, hey, TimCast.com.
We're doing really well.
We're hiring people.
We've got a newsroom just launching.
There's a lot of difficult challenges ahead, but I'm 100% confident we're going to succeed.
And operating under that assumption, what does the next 5-10 years look like?
A large independent news outlet challenging the lies in the mainstream media and helping clear away the noise, helping people understand what's actually happening and choose for themselves how they should live and how they should vote.
That makes me optimistic.
I mean, we're doing something here and we're gonna bring in more people to do more things.
Everybody else should do the same.
ivory hecker
Agreed.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
We're working on a... Have you ever heard of the Fediverse?
ivory hecker
No, what's that?
ian crossland
It's like different social networks like Mastodon and other types.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
There's a few other ones that where they all interoperate all these different social networks.
So like you could you could be on like Mines and I could be on YouTube and I could subscribe to your Mines channel.
And then Tim could be on Twitter and subscribe to me on YouTube from Twitter.
And then we can all have like our own feeds, whereas it'd be like your website, my website, Tim's.
We'd all have our own independent sites.
ivory hecker
Oh, that's neat.
ian crossland
Very cool.
ivory hecker
Oh my gosh, I like that.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's gonna be the future of independent media because up until internet video, independent media, I don't know what it was, Alex Jones screaming on the radio, then it was YouTube, but then we realized that it's not independent if it's on corporate Google.
luke rudkowski
It was public access.
Alex Jones got his start by literally going down to the local public access station that filmed on some cable news channels, and that was where he got his start.
ian crossland
So this will be the next public access.
But we're going to have to get off ISPs.
That'll be the big next step after we get off the social networks.
ivory hecker
What's an ISP?
ian crossland
Internet Service Provider.
Oh, right.
So like Verizon could shut down your internet access if they didn't like what... Or Amazon with Parler, right?
Yeah, Amazon has the hosting service.
So then you also have your DNS, which could shut down your... So you got to get off the ISPs and you got to get off the DNS.
Oh, I see.
ivory hecker
Wow.
Oh my gosh.
ian crossland
It's a big, big problem.
We're wired in.
It's going to be huge.
ivory hecker
Yeah, we've got to figure that out.
tim pool
The goal is to create an open source software that the average person can just put on.
You go to a server service, then you install this program, which gives you a basic subscription service website.
So imagine Substack, but it's yours.
It's your website with your open source code operating this, and then people who like your content can become members, sign up to pay so that you can do your own work.
The goal of this is, let's say you start a Substack, which is where a lot of these journals have gone.
Well, they can ban you.
They can say, we don't like what you're saying.
Imagine you start a Patreon.
Oh, they will ban you because they've already done that to a lot of people.
So we want to make something that's harder to ban.
Not impossible to ban, I mean, your domain registrar or your server company, they could still terminate services to you, but it eliminates, it makes it harder to do.
So, you know, hopefully we get to that point, where people can just buy server space, buy a domain, drop a program into their server and execute it, and then boom, they've got a functioning website, add some graphics, done.
ian crossland
Probably what will happen is we'll have mesh networks and our phones will be our servers.
I think that'll be the future.
ivory hecker
Wow.
That'd be a great idea.
tim pool
There's actually apps that do this.
So I went on a cruise several years ago.
There's no phone service, so what they did was everyone had to turn on Bluetooth and you downloaded this app where it connects every phone to each other.
So if you send a message to your friend who's on the other side of the cruise, your phones Well, your phone will hit this guy's phone with that guy's phone and then bounce around all the way until it makes it to the end.
And then that guy gets the message.
So each phone was acting like a cell tower is amazing.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, they did something similar at Burning Man.
But but just very curiously, I mean, you just did this.
Do you have any plans moving forward?
We're going to be going from here.
ivory hecker
I want to continue doing independent journalism somehow.
I'm just, I'm really, I have a bad taste in my mouth about corporate news.
I don't want to be a part of any.
I really am craving some solitude right now, like just being Alone for a while.
I am working on this really important story that I mentioned to you guys of finishing Bringing this full circle that what started with dr. Verone last August and and Fox clamping down so hard on that story I'm digging back in and saying let's get to the bottom.
What have we learned in in a year?
Let's talk to the researchers, the doctors, and I even got a one-on-one with World Health Work guys.
unidentified
Wow.
ivory hecker
Yeah, so I'm looking forward to putting... I've already shot this story.
I'm gonna put it out.
So I'm already working on this first independent report and I want to continue doing journalism.
I just want to be authentic and not owned by anyone.
I just want some freedom and peace.
I do need to figure out how to monetize myself.
But, you know, I'm open to a lot of things.
I want to keep doing journalism.
But I also, I love my music and I have all these songs that came, like, through inspiration.
Like, a lot of my songs come in my sleep.
It's just, like, completely inspired.
So I want to just work on my songs because I haven't had time with all the chaos that
happened with Fox.
And then fitness is another thing I'm passionate about.
And I actually, when I really was like, okay, I've got to get out of Fox, I actually bought
a personal training program and I was like, I'm going to get certified as a personal trainer
because I enjoy fitness.
And you know, why not monetize something you enjoy?
So I'm open to doing like a few different things and just, you know, continuing to do what I'm passionate about.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, how about we take some super chats?
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It really does help out the channel.
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Share the show with your friends.
And don't forget, go to timcast.com because we will have a bonus segment around 11 p.m.
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That'll be for members only, but your membership helps support the fierce independent journalism, which we will be expanding upon.
Right now, Cassandra Fairbanks is leading the charge, but we've been going through resumes, we've been having phone calls, and we're probably gonna be adding people very, very soon.
And the new website will be up within the next month or so.
So it's going to be beautiful and amazing.
You guys rock.
Let's go to these super chats.
All right.
Cryptic says, Tim, check out Junious Maltby YouTube channel.
He calls out the Fed and talks about sound money.
Very, very cool.
Jacob Wilson says they are taking away your notifications.
I know.
Yeah, a lot of people don't get notified that we go live anymore.
ian crossland
That's weird.
tim pool
I don't think it's weird.
I think it's absolutely on par for what YouTube is doing, especially when we're hosting conversations like this.
ian crossland
Why does that work?
So you click the subscribe, you click the bell button, and click it to all notifications, and then you still don't get it?
tim pool
Still don't get it.
ian crossland
Is that because other things are prioritized?
tim pool
No, it's because YouTube is pretending to actually be fair.
unidentified
They're not.
ivory hecker
Come to think of it, I haven't gotten notifications about you recently.
tim pool
And we've got, I'm not gonna name anybody, but we've got a really big week coming up with a bunch of people that's like... We're gonna be... You ever see those videos of like the Russian dudes who climb on cranes and like dangle with one arm?
That's basically what we're doing next week in terms of YouTube banning us.
So we got some big names and we're basically gonna be dangling off the edge of that crane.
Confident we can pull ourselves up and not get banned, but uh...
Conversation's gotta happen.
Like, I have my limits.
I always say, like, there are some things that YouTube doesn't allow you to talk about.
We'll be very careful because I don't want to sacrifice 99% of the conversation for 1%.
But there's a limit.
YouTube saying you can't say the sky is blue or 2 plus 2 equals 5 is a limit.
It's like, nah, we can't get to that point.
We gotta have real conversations.
All right.
Shibi Gibi says, any chance I could get a shout out for the horror show I co-host called Visited by Voices?
We spotlight lesser known creators in the community.
Hey, there you go.
Shout out.
Here's good news.
Frank Perez says, Tim, we can officially constitutional carry in the great state of Texas starting September 1st.
It's about time.
unidentified
Geez.
tim pool
Seriously.
lydia smith
Surprised.
tim pool
Yeah.
ivory hecker
Oh, I've got a story on that one.
Yeah, they definitely they assigned me to that story when it goes going through the legislature there because, you know, I'm a Texas reporter and it was all about racial groups.
Oh, how?
How will racial groups react to this legislation?
And they actually they assigned me to my To what I do one story on how women are
Reacting and affected and when I'm how black people are are reacting and they it was weird
But we can get into people like guns. They actually sent me specifically to
Third Ward, which is the the book known to be the like the blackest part of Houston and then to a barber shop
Specifically to to get reaction on on guns Wow.
tim pool
All right, we got Black Czar.
He says, due to CRTDIE training, talent has been leaving our armed forces.
Some quit and form local militias.
Those are facts.
Now suppose some of them left believing CRT, but came to pro-white conclusions.
That's what the government fears.
That the genie is out of the bottle.
That's a really interesting point.
Yeah, identitarianism can be for any race.
And critical race theory basically teaches that it tells people to segregate.
Or I should say, applied racial theory is what we're seeing at these schools.
They're telling children to do and believe things.
And it results in white people saying, okay, and...
There was a school district in California that actually said they wanted to trigger a white racial awakening in children.
Okay, great.
Jacob Richardson says, I can verify that the anti-extremism and wokeness CRT and diversity trainings are causing people to leave the military.
Example, me.
Captain.
USMCR.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
Not surprised.
tim pool
Yeah, well, who's left?
A bunch of woke cultists?
luke rudkowski
And yes men.
That would do anything.
tim pool
A lot of people mentioning that Constitutional Carry was just signed into law.
I think that's absolutely fantastic.
luke rudkowski
We have that up in New Hampshire and it's pretty awesome.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
Cole Gibson says, give this girl a job.
I'll actually subscribe to your website if I can listen to her reporting.
You want to talk about backbones.
Well, you know.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
There's a lot of comments saying that.
Fascinating.
lydia smith
People are saying it.
unidentified
Interesting.
lydia smith
it.
tim pool
Jake Wigington says, My mother is a nurse who worked the entire pandemic.
The hospital she worked at used this drug very often and it saved many lives the entire
time.
Interesting, I wonder what drug that's talking about.
You should always talk to your doctor.
I mean this.
I'm really bothered by this because my friend who got sick, it was like he didn't go through an analysis of his medical history.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And so, I will say, I think to be fair, look, I know almost everybody I know, like from back home, got vaccinated totally fine.
And I've got one friend, two people I know, one friend and someone close to my family who have gotten sick.
And I think it's because they didn't do a proper assessment of their medical histories.
And when I talked to him about it, I actually think we found, you know, the reason that was like, hey, this is why you probably got sick.
ivory hecker
This is why they had a breakthrough case of COVID, like they got COVID after vaccination.
tim pool
Before.
ivory hecker
Okay.
tim pool
So there have been some stories about that.
So there have been doctors who have said, if you get COVID, you have to wait before you can get the vaccine.
I'm not telling you to do anything, okay?
YouTube, calm down.
I'm saying that was a story that was published far and wide.
And so I had a friend who got sick, and then shortly after got vaccinated, and he had an adverse reaction.
And I'm like, it may have been because you needed a second opinion.
A doctor who would have looked at your history and said, oh, whoa, whoa, like, let me, you know.
So that's why I always tell people, talk to a doctor, talk to a second doctor, make sure you're getting sound medical advice.
Don't get it from, from political shows.
All right, let's see.
East F says, Luke, demand that everyone comment on the, Luke, demand that everyone comment on the ATF's website regarding the ruling.
What is a receiver and the banning pistol braces?
See guns and gadgets video.
Rise to the challenge on YouTube for more info.
Love the show.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the ATF released a guidelines that's very complex, very big about their proposals for, you know, firearms and receivers and all these different things.
And they're actually taking comments from the general public about it.
So people are asking people to get involved, which your choice, but I think it's going to be interesting to see what the ATF does.
tim pool
There's a lot of comments just saying to hire Ivory.
unidentified
Yeah, wow.
tim pool
I can't just read everything.
luke rudkowski
We might get enough Super Chats to do it.
tim pool
Yes, if we get enough Super Chats to pay her salary, then it's a no brainer.
All right, let's see.
ivory hecker
That means a lot.
That means a lot.
It's so interesting that the reaction from the audience about this, from viewers, it's been nothing but love.
unidentified
Yeah.
ivory hecker
That the friends in the media who have been like brave enough to reach out to me after this have sent me sympathy.
And I was like, what are you sympathetic about?
I'm doing great.
I'm doing better than ever.
tim pool
Fox was a prison.
Isn't it amazing how when you do the right thing, good things happen?
There was that Facebook whistleblower for James O'Keefe.
What did he get, half a million dollars?
I think that's absolutely wonderful.
If you tell people, listen, if you come out and expose the corrupt, there's a support network.
And I'm pretty sure half a million dollars is better than where he was before.
And I'm glad to hear it.
I'm glad to hear it.
ivory hecker
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
tim pool
People want to help him out.
ivory hecker
So come out, you guys.
If you're a media member, come on out.
We'll support you.
tim pool
Send, be brave, go to Project Veritas and expose.
ivory hecker
There is a huge demand for legit, bold truth seekers.
So if you get out of the corporate media, you know, people are going to want to tune into you.
lydia smith
This is so important, because people are so scared about speaking up.
So I'm really glad that you're sharing your story, because we really need to motivate people to come out and be like, yeah, this is actually happening.
ian crossland
And when you do, you email, as far as I know, VeritasTips at ProtonMail.
ivory hecker
That sounds right.
Yeah, you can send an anonymous tip to them, or send them your contact info.
That's right.
You'll probably get a phone call from James.
James O'Keefe is very excited about this story right now.
He'll probably get a personal call, I don't know.
lydia smith
Oh, sweet.
tim pool
One of the most effective people fighting in the culture war and just in general for truth in media, I suppose.
I think it would be silly to assert that everything Veritas does is perfect.
That's ridiculous.
Nobody is.
So the media hyper-focuses on faults or any kind of hole they can possibly find.
But man, I look at a lot of the anti-establishment, woke, or whatever.
There's very few people who are fighting as hard as James is, and doing a good job of it especially.
So, I'm eternally grateful that Veritas exists.
Alright, Benjamin Dine says the establishment wants to make sure the public panics at the right time, so they can provide the appropriate insight into the situation.
So the public will just believe whatever they say without question, potentially.
I think they want people to panic at the right time so they can game the market.
So they can force all the people to lose their resources, they can buy them up, and then crank the prices up and sell them high, and that's the game they play.
ivory hecker
Wait, who's saying Wonset?
Who's he saying Wonset?
tim pool
The establishment.
ivory hecker
Okay, the establishment media wants panic as much as possible all the time.
If there's a panic story every day, they would love that.
And that's why they have loved COVID.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, like the CNN guy.
Gangbusters!
That's what he said, right?
luke rudkowski
And they loved the death count and they were hoping it was gonna go up and they had it on the screen.
ivory hecker
Guys, let me tell you, when COVID first came in March last year, My news team was reporting the case count and the death numbers and I was getting those numbers as well as the recovery rates from all the local counties and I was actually shocked looking at the sensationalism in the media at that time and then looking at the recovery rate
I was like, oh, people are recovering really quick because initially it was like, wait, do you ever get over this?
And in our morning editorial meeting in our boardroom, I said, Susan, to my boss, we need to put the recovery rate on the TV, too, to give the full picture.
And she was adamant against that.
That shocked me.
She said, no, we don't want that recovery rate up there.
lydia smith
Wow.
unidentified
Evil.
ivory hecker
It wasn't until like weeks later when more pressure was put on her.
She finally put it up.
tim pool
You ever see that meme where it was like, type in three random numbers and like a city and or type in three random numbers and COVID and you'll find stories.
And so like, I did. It works, yeah. Like, like, or it was, it was three
random numbers and cases or something.
And the stories, there's just, they're just always something. It's, it's really weird.
Any three random numbers. Nine, obviously not starting with zero, but you know. Wow.
lydia smith
Gets the clicks, man.
tim pool
All right, Cassius Cam says, Hey gang, your friend from the lumber mill.
Millennials are still soft and won't work.
Been working 12s for three months and weekends.
I'm also an ANCAP rap artist.
Luke, can I send you some of my videos on IG?
I won't disappoint you.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you could email me at info at we are change.org.
I'm actually answering those emails info at we are change.org.
lydia smith
Cool.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
That's scary.
I love it.
Rivera says Governor DeSantis announced Florida is sending state troopers to Texas and Arizona
to assist with the border crisis.
This is an early sign of states consolidating with states like the blue state people moving
to conservative areas.
That's scary.
I love it.
The states taking responsibility amongst themselves and basically separating from the Fed.
lydia smith
That's scary.
tim pool
Did you did you do the trick?
ian crossland
Dude, I'm looking at the most ridiculous graphic.
This is the new cases and deaths from the coronavirus.
It was January 10th is when it started to go down.
January 10th.
That's four days after Biden was sworn in.
Is that right?
January 6th?
ivory hecker
No, that's January 20th.
He was sworn in.
tim pool
But did you type the three numbers?
ian crossland
Yeah, it just gave me a bunch of I typed 751, 23 cases COVID and it gave me 751 and 23 cases COVID.
tim pool
What do you mean?
Just type in 619.
ian crossland
Oh, three single digit numbers.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
What were you, what were you, you were doing like?
ian crossland
What are those compound numbers?
ivory hecker
So like six space one?
tim pool
No, no, no, like 619 or 124 or 736.
There was a meme where you could like just type that in and then Google would give you a story for every random number.
ian crossland
Maybe we could talk about on the after show that.
tim pool
We'll look into it.
ian crossland
This is crazy.
ivory hecker
Wow.
tim pool
Bob!
ian crossland
Oh yeah, Oregon COVID-19 updates.
713 new cases.
I just typed 713.
Now change it to 712.
tim pool
7 1 3 now change it to 7 1 2 put 7 1 2 what is going on?
lydia smith
Put 712.
tim pool
This is the most propagandized. No, I think it's being No, I think it's because the media was tracking every single number, every single day.
ian crossland
Maryland reports 712 new coronavirus cases.
unidentified
Because it was the shock content they wanted.
tim pool
Every number, every time.
ivory hecker
Exactly, exactly.
tim pool
We'll look into this.
We'll pull it up for the bonus segment.
Bob Samarczyk says, SPLC put We Are Change on the list and effectively dissolved We Are Change Seattle.
Thanks to Luke for marching on.
luke rudkowski
Someone has to do it.
And yeah, they try to intimidate you.
They try to make you afraid.
And if you're not afraid, you can continue on.
They want you in a constant negative, low vibrational state of panic, fear, anxiety.
Don't let them win.
ian crossland
That's right.
tim pool
Right Coast Crypto says, Hey Tim, talking about creating culture.
I was a heroin addict for eight years, just celebrated 16 months clean.
I'd love to do something with you to let people know there's a way out.
So many people are suffering.
We could help so many.
Well, we got a lot of work to do, but you can always send your email to pitches at timcast.com, where we have somebody who goes through them and then tries to figure out what we're capable of doing.
There's a lot of things we want to do.
It's also about what we can do.
I'm hoping within five years, we're doing all of it.
Movies, sitcoms, all that stuff.
Okay, okay.
Hire her, hire her, hire her.
I see, I see, I see, I see.
ivory hecker
Love that.
tim pool
Machismo Joe says, Ivory, we are not a cult.
We are gorillas.
Glad to hear you're here.
When are you joining the Beanie Compound?
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
tim pool
All right.
Everyone's just saying the same thing.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
Thanks, guys.
Let me scroll down a little bit.
tim pool
Here we go.
Andrew Pawlowski says, Hey, Tim, I just got an invite to Clubhouse.
It's a talk only social media site that has huge potential to change culture.
I have several invites.
If you want one, just say yes.
And I'll message you on IG.
unidentified
Yeah.
ivory hecker
Have you gone on that?
tim pool
Clubhouse was really big and now it's, no one uses it anymore.
ian crossland
What happened with it?
tim pool
It was a fad.
ivory hecker
It was a fad.
tim pool
Everybody was doing these talk rooms and then eventually they got bored of them and now no one in the U.S.
really uses them anymore.
So they kind of, you know, fizzled out.
But I appreciate the offer.
Okay.
The Magalanium says, Hey Tim, big fan from Canada.
Thanks for keeping me sane in this dark age of information.
Keep up the good fight and God bless.
lydia smith
Thank you.
tim pool
Appreciate it.
GuamTech says, Tim, your one-wheeled skates are not a good design.
Look into tri-skates or even aggressive if you want to do tricks.
Also, looking for anyone to come to the compound and rep some blading.
So I have this photo.
I got Amazon recommended these weird things.
It's like a bike wheel.
And then you wear a brace, like on your legs.
So you have the bike wheel like on the left, like outside of your legs.
There is a little training wheel and it's just like the most ridiculous thing ever.
It doesn't really work.
ivory hecker
I need to see a picture.
tim pool
Yeah, it's on my Instagram.
That's what they're talking about.
WOMTEC, we actually are having some bladers come out, not this weekend, but next weekend.
We are going to have BMX, scooter, and bladers coming out.
And we are going to film a vlog where we just get interdisciplinary trick doing at the compound.
It's gonna be a whole lot of fun.
I'm excited for it.
2007 Shockwave says, just got over from watching Viva Barnes and they mentioned this.
Not that I was unaware of you guys to begin with.
Oh, they mentioned our show or?
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Appreciate it.
lydia smith
With James O'Keefe.
tim pool
Matt Bowler says, been listening live nearly every day for a while now, yet I'm finding myself wondering for the first time, where's Ian?
ian crossland
I'm right here, friend.
lydia smith
Just listening.
ivory hecker
Taking it in.
ian crossland
I'm very taken by Ben Franklin lately, and he was noted, I think when he went to the first Constitutional Convention, he said nothing the entire time.
unidentified
Really?
lydia smith
Good for him!
Listening, underrated.
tim pool
I have to read all of these comments.
lydia smith
Is that your mom?
tim pool
Oh my!
That must be your mother with the full name there.
Are you sure?
It could be a pseudonym.
miss hacker on board right now if not i will consider taking my money from
timcast and walking away from the state your mom i i don't know if that must be
unidentified
your mother at the full name their legal angle sign is not my mother's name are
tim pool
you sure i have a good pseudonym uh... too funny clarence w says please say crowder is
coming on the show Ooh.
unidentified
He's busy.
tim pool
Well, with the new studio, we're getting someone to come out and change some things.
We have a very strict in-studio policy for a lot of reasons, but we may actually do, like, maybe once per month we'll open up for virtual, because there are people like Hasan Piker, who was willing to come on if we did a virtual thing, and potentially people like Steven Crowder if we do virtual, because these are both people who host their own shows.
Hasan does his live stream in Twitch.
Why would he stop doing his job just to come and come on here and have a debate or discussion?
Doesn't make sense.
But there are some people who are willing to do it.
And I think maybe we'll open up like maybe like one a month we'll be willing to do virtual.
The problem is right now we don't actually have monitors for anybody but me.
So no one will be able to hear or see any person on Skype.
We just we were never set up for it because we never wanted to do it.
But we'll see what we'll see what happens.
Sean KC, FPV, says, all of this media censorship feels a lot like Man in the High Castle.
Thank you, Ivory, for exposing a forbidden glimpse of reality.
unidentified
Excellent.
ivory hecker
Wow.
You're welcome.
My pleasure.
tim pool
Bobby Digital says, resist the usage of the word worker.
It marginalizes everyone.
You know we've reached a disgusting place in our society when you hear nurses, doctors, and surgeons referred to as hospital workers.
lydia smith
That's just a group.
I mean, they all work there.
tim pool
Jdubski says, I just became a member at TimCast.com.
Have you considered making a YouTube channel that mostly just links to member content and news at TimCast.com?
Not easy to do.
Really not easy to do.
So we have a proprietary service for the members only thing.
But the new site's coming.
And it's gonna be really awesome. The members-only content is gonna have a preview function, which means
if you're not a member, you'll get to watch, everyone get to watch the first minute or so of
every video, because maybe you don't want to, you know, you're like, hey, I need a trailer for this.
Why should I, you know, invest in this membership?
lydia smith
A teaser.
tim pool
But I think it's much easier to say, if you think that CNN does a great job and that they should
make more money than us and have more views than us, don't become a member. If you think the inverse
and they don't deserve the money they get or being propped up by YouTube and you want to see us do
more work, then please share these shows and become a member.
It's all we can ask for.
ivory hecker
I wonder how much they're making these days.
tim pool
CNN makes a lot of money, but they spend a lot of money.
ivory hecker
So, you know, they had to cut their airport service.
They couldn't pay the airports anymore to keep to keep it in there.
tim pool
Well, I think, yes, they canceled.
They were paying airports like, what was it, $7 million a year or something?
ivory hecker
I forget how much, but yeah, they had to pay to keep CNN going.
tim pool
I wonder how much of their ratings was bought.
lydia smith
Involuntary watchers.
tim pool
But then they would go to these advertisers and be like, we get a million views.
ian crossland
Look at this.
tim pool
And it's like, yeah, it's airport and hotels.
unidentified
Creepy.
tim pool
Lazarus Rex says UFOs are real and we need more money for the military.
So Obama is saying Trump's Space Force was a great idea?
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
That's what I'm hearing.
Buffalo Bill says, why do far leftists look ill physically and mentally, and conservative women are fine.
Blonde hair, legs, but the left all look, like, unhealthy.
I mean, really, there could be a correlation there.
I'm not gonna get into it.
I'm not gonna name the YouTuber.
There's a YouTuber friend of mine who asked me a question about this, because we are both noting that when you go to the RNC, the men are all tall and thin.
Not all, every single man, but they're tend to be chiseled and tall, and the women tend
to be like attractive and slim.
And then when you go to the DNC, the women are frumpy and the men are short.
And I was like, what is that?
And I said, I think it's actually fairly simple.
Attractive people have, they go through life and people want to do things for them.
You know, they're attractive.
So if you're an attractive guy, then people are trying to fawn over you.
Women are giving you things or constantly talking to you.
If you're ugly, it's harder.
So people who are uglier have less attractive privilege.
They form collectives to protect themselves, to advocate for their interests.
Whereas people who are attractive, who've had an easier go at life, just say, Why should I join a union or a collective?
I'm doing great.
Don't force me to do it.
So you'll end up with more personal responsibility and individualist types who are attractive and more ugly, frumpy collectivists.
I talked about this because there's actually like five different studies that I've cited in the past.
The young Turks got so mad when I brought it up that there's studies saying Democrats do tend to be less attractive than Republicans.
And they were like, Tim's not attractive himself.
He's so ugly.
Who's he to say this?
And I was like, dude, I'm just reading Washington Post, man.
Like, chill out, guys.
I wasn't insulting you.
Literally, I was citing the Washington Post.
And then they end up pulling up the store and like, well, it's true, but come on.
And I'm like, I don't- I don't- Why you gotta be mean?
Like, I wasn't even being mean to you guys.
And it was Nando.
I was like, Nando, bro, I know you.
lydia smith
Why are you being mean to me?
Taking it personal.
tim pool
Yeah, what are you doing, man?
Calm down.
Alright, alright.
Scroatsmagoats says Taimi should really, really watch the Deep Space Nine episode in the pale moonlight.
It was the most shocking episode of Star Trek I'd ever seen when it came out, and in the 2000s it was almost prophetic.
Wow, that's an endorsement if I've ever seen one.
I will definitely... I'm pretty sure I've seen it.
I've seen like every episode of the 90s series of Next Generation, Voyager, and Deep Space Nine.
But I must admit, I can remember basically everything from The Next Generation.
Wow, do I love that show.
Deep Space Nine, I watched every episode at least once and some twice.
And Voyager, a lot of the episodes I kind of like half dozed off for and wasn't really paying attention, so.
That's my ranking of how much I liked the show.
I thought Janeway was good, though.
ian crossland
Did you think Enterprise was good?
tim pool
I didn't watch it.
That was the 2000s.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That was 2001.
ian crossland
Scott Bakula.
tim pool
I saw some episodes.
I wasn't a fan.
Yeah, it was the worst Star Trek intro I've ever seen.
What was that?
The intro?
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't remember.
tim pool
Like, the next generation is fantastic.
The iconic introduction.
ian crossland
Space.
tim pool
The final frontier.
ian crossland
Shakespearean actors of all time as the leader.
tim pool
I know, right?
ian crossland
Good move.
tim pool
I thought Janeway was alright.
But, you know, it was whatever.
I'll check it out, though.
Alright, let's see.
We'll jump down and see what we got here.
I think I read that one.
Here we go.
Nerdius Maximus says, Ian breaks the laws of physics.
He goes from genius to ridiculous faster than the speed of light.
DNS records are already decentralized, but you should use a secure DNS server.
There you go.
ian crossland
Thank you.
tim pool
A lot of people telling us to look up Yuri Bezmenov.
We get that comment fairly often.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, should we?
Interesting.
tim pool
Matthew Holloway says, Tim, who do I contact about becoming a contributing writer?
I wrote for The Blaze back in 16, and I'd love to help out.
From Phoenix, shout out The Holonet on Mojo 5.0 radio, please.
Hey, there you go.
I suppose for now, jobs at timcast.com.
But it's very difficult because we are getting overwhelmed with requests.
So definitely appreciate it.
Josh England says, Tim, YouTube has never allowed me to enable notifications for IRL.
It says the action is disabled for content for kids.
Well, we're certainly not content for kids.
That's for sure.
ian crossland
Maybe you have a setting on your account that limits you to only be able to watch kid content or something.
unidentified
Weird.
ivory hecker
Yeah, could be.
tim pool
Chandilands says, how long till the MSM does a reverse Project Veritas and places people in the opposition's base of operations?
Maybe that's what Ivory's doing.
Coming from mainstream media.
ian crossland
Are you a double agent?
Are you a triple agent?
lydia smith
A triple agent.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
ian crossland
Oh, it's a double agent.
How's that work?
tim pool
The Licensed Guru says, Ivory, thank you for speaking truth.
You've answered the prayers of millions.
ivory hecker
Oh, that means a lot.
tim pool
B.E.
says, YouTube, stop your anti-Asian hate.
Give me Tim Pool notifications.
The bell does nothing.
lydia smith
That's right.
It's racism.
tim pool
Yeah, YouTube's racist because, you know... I didn't... You're part Asian?
Yeah.
ivory hecker
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Oh, really?
tim pool
This is a minority-owned company, and YouTube is racist.
luke rudkowski
And I'm Polish.
I'm a person of color, officially, so... Slavic people are people of color.
Watch out, YouTube.
tim pool
No, did you know that?
ivory hecker
Yeah, I'm 132nd Cherokee for real.
There you go.
unidentified
Oh, really?
ian crossland
You look like it.
unidentified
Perfect.
lydia smith
You're right.
tim pool
Well then, there you go.
unidentified
Actually, isn't there like a legal threshold or is that... Yeah, I think it's 8%, so I didn't make the cut, but my grandpa did.
ivory hecker
Or, I mean, 1 8th.
1 8th is the cutoff.
tim pool
A group called the Coalition for Communities of Color says that Slavic people are people of color.
unidentified
So blonde-haired, blue-eyed Luke is a person of color.
ian crossland
That was recent.
Wasn't that like in March or something?
tim pool
That was when he was here, like in January or February.
ivory hecker
Blonde is a color.
I'm glad they acknowledged that.
lydia smith
Finally, geez.
tim pool
Mark Roberts says, I wanted to send $20, but future inflation made me pay $100 for this comment.
Thanks for your content.
Please continue to keep us informed.
I will do my best.
lydia smith
Thank you.
tim pool
Goblin Hand says, offer her a job, you fool, while you still can before somebody steals her.
She's a treasure.
Don't do my mistake from last year debating myself if I should buy crypto or no.
ivory hecker
Wow, he compared me to crypto?
unidentified
What an honor!
tim pool
He's saying you're going to accrue in value very quickly and you're a good store of value.
Chad Canego says, you should glass all of your extra eggs to preserve them.
Can keep them good for several months to a year.
Wait, what?
lydia smith
I haven't looked that up.
luke rudkowski
Natural eggs out of the chicken butt have a coating on it that usually the ones at the store are rubbed off and they could last for a long, long time.
tim pool
What does it mean to glass them?
unidentified
Wow!
ivory hecker
I haven't looked that up.
That's incredible.
Glass them.
ian crossland
Water glassing eggs long term.
I'll send this to you.
lydia smith
Cool, yeah.
Sounds great.
tim pool
Kyle Sheridan says, Thanks for you and your team's hard work.
I would second the recommendation for Guns and Gadgets as well as recommend Warrior Poet Society.
They both share your love for our country and direction to fight the culture war.
There you go.
lydia smith
Everybody recommends Warrior Poets to me.
tim pool
Ah yes, here's a good one.
William J.S.
says you should have Carrie Lake on.
Award-winning Fox News 10 anchor from Phoenix over 20 years, resigned from huge contract due to leftist agenda being pushed.
Now running for AZ governor in 2022.
I have seen her video talking about this.
She is very cool.
ivory hecker
You guys, Project Veritas, yeah, they are friends with her.
I did not.
I didn't know who she was or that she existed until Monday, right before I did my thing on the live news.
Project Veritas said, by the way, there's this woman who abruptly quit from Fox and Phoenix.
So she's from the same company as me.
That's Fox Corp.
And this thing, these edicts coming down from New York, I still have to compare notes with her.
I want to call her and be like, OK, what were you doing with you?
But she sent Project Veritas a text message to read to me right before I went live, which was a nerve-wracking thing to do.
And it was such a sweet, encouraging text.
So I want to thank her.
And I'm meaning to call her and compare notes.
Connect the dots on what the heck's going on.
tim pool
Alright, we'll do one more.
Giuseppe Castellino says, Metal Gear Solid 2.
Play it or watch the last part of it with the AI conversation.
It's yourself.
Predict everything to a T since 01.
I've heard that.
The Metal Gear story is like, prophetic.
Super cool.
My friends, if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, hit the notification bell, which apparently does nothing at this point, but maybe you can tell your at-home digital assistant to set reminders Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
when we do this show live.
And you can follow us on Facebook and Instagram at TimCastIRL.
You can share our videos there.
You go to Facebook, click that little share button, because we're trying to leverage these networks to drive more people to TimCast.com.
We're going to start producing legit news.
We're going to be leveraging these big networks, but we are also on other networks as well.
It's a difficult battle, but this is part of the exodus where we want to drive people to an independent website.
Your membership at TimCast.com is helping fund independent journalism, so make sure you go to TimCast.com for the bonus segment that is coming up at around 11 or so.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Ivory, do you want to shout out your social media channels or anything else?
ivory hecker
Sure, yeah.
Instagram, Ivory, it's real.ivory, at real.ivory on Instagram.
Facebook.com slash Ivory Hacker.
On Twitter, it is at Ivory Hacker.
I have a telegram.
It is linked in the bio of my Instagram.
I don't know.
I think it's so important right now to diversify your social media.
These social media corporations are not about the free sharing of info.
So Telegram, I would love if you go to my Telegram because I'm not hearing that they're censoring like the other ones are.
tim pool
Right on.
luke rudkowski
I love Telegram.
I'm on WeAreChange on there.
But if you want to find out why MSNBC called me a right-wing racist, Fox News called me a jihad-loving liberal, you can on LukeUncensored.com.
Sign up right now for all the exciting things that I have going on.
And of course, I also do videos almost daily on the YouTube channel WeAreChange.
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
Oh, you can follow me at IanCrossland.net and at Ian Crossland across all social media.
Thanks for coming, guys.
I really appreciate it.
luke rudkowski
I really love you.
lydia smith
And you guys can follow me at Sour Patchlets on Twitter.
Contrary to all of your comments in the chat, I'm not actually stoned.
I'm just tired, as I usually am.
ivory hecker
Girl, me too!
lydia smith
I know, right?
Same, same.
It's a struggle, but yeah.
tim pool
My friends, many superchats saying, Tim, hire this woman.
Well, if you want to find out if there is a job offer, go to TimCast.com, become a member, and check out the bonus segment, where you'll find out, I suppose.
So thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all then.
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