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May 28, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - New Study Claims China MADE COVID, Fauci Says Maybe w/David Reaboi
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ian crossland
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tim pool
I'd like to start today's episode off on a very serious note.
It is May 28th, 2021, and five years ago, there was a very serious moment that kicked off all of this conflict.
All of the fighting and all of the hatred.
Something that happened in this country that just tore people apart at their core.
It's the killing of Harambee.
Five years ago today.
I just posted about that.
They took our boy.
And from that, everyone just erupted in rage.
No one could understand the pain, the grief was so intense that we've been fighting ever since.
unidentified
R.I.P.
tim pool
Harambe.
david reaboi
I missed Harambe.
You know when you're a kid sometimes you're in elementary school or grade school and like you miss a day and then it just happens to be a crucial day.
unidentified
Five years ago today you're like sitting here eating a burrito.
david reaboi
I was unplugged from this and then And then everybody's talking about Harambe.
If you can explain to me in two or three sentences, Harambe.
tim pool
They killed the gorilla.
david reaboi
Who?
unidentified
The zoo.
tim pool
He had a little boy, he fell in.
And he was like dragging him, so they shot and killed him.
Harambe was the young...
There's a gorilla.
lydia smith
He's a gorilla.
david reaboi
The gorilla, okay.
tim pool
So they shot the gorilla to save the little boy.
david reaboi
Got it.
tim pool
And everyone's like, it became a meme.
They took our boy, Harambe, and it's been five years, everybody.
ian crossland
Elon Musk produced a song about it.
unidentified
It's true.
ian crossland
Highly recommend.
lydia smith
Very true.
ian crossland
Check that one out.
tim pool
No, I do feel bad about this gorilla being killed.
It's still sad, but it's a meme, so hey, everybody, thanks for hanging out.
It was not really a serious opening, but I wonder if people are genuinely offended by, like, don't you dare insult the memory of Harambe!
ian crossland
Whose fault was it?
Was it the gorilla or the little boy?
The little boy fell in.
A human falls in a gorilla cage, the gorilla mauls the human, they kill the gorilla.
Whose fault was it?
david reaboi
If this would happen today, wouldn't you see an expose of the little boy?
Wouldn't the media try to destroy this kid's life?
tim pool
Yeah, I guess.
david reaboi
You know, his parents, his family and everything.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
This unarmed gorilla was killed by the authorities?
david reaboi
Right.
I mean, do we know anything about the kid?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What was the kid doing?
david reaboi
Was there even a kid?
tim pool
Was the kid like skulking around looking all like peacocking?
He was trying to try to steal, you know, from Harambe's house.
lydia smith
It's only three.
tim pool
Harambe was just defending himself.
david reaboi
Oh, the kid was three?
unidentified
Yeah.
david reaboi
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
david reaboi
So he doesn't even remember.
tim pool
Can't blame the stuff story, but let's get into the this the serious story. Uh, this one's risky
You know, I it gave me pause looking at this news cuz I'm like, well YouTube might absolutely ban us
We've got reporting out that there's a study suggesting or a flat-out saying that the vial kovat was made
By China made by them and that after the lab leak they panicked and retro
Engineered it to try and make it seem like it was naturally occurring
Now, the only reason it's been reported by the Daily Mail, it's like a front page story.
Maybe it's not true.
Of course, this is a NewsGuard certified source, so I'm not going to ignore a breaking story even if YouTube punishes us for it.
But the other thing is Fauci himself said that he wasn't convinced it was naturally occurring.
If it's not naturally occurring, then what does that mean?
It emerged next to the Wuhan lab.
Fauci is the one who opened the door for this conversation, so... So be it!
We need to talk about it.
And we'll talk about much stuff.
It's Friday.
We take things easy.
We chill pretty much on Friday.
And we're being joined today by national security analyst, author, Dave Reboy.
David Reboy.
You wanna introduce yourself real quick?
david reaboi
Sure.
I tweet at DaveReboy.com.
Well, I, at Dave Urboy, I have a website at DaveUrboy.com where I've got writing, I write about music, I write about politics, international affairs.
tim pool
And the collapse of this country.
david reaboi
And the collapse of the country.
Because this is, you know, we're in a civilizational crisis period and, you know, that's on the menu.
I have this book called Qatar's Shadow War that I wrote, which is available.
Um, on the, on the site or on Amazon or wherever.
lydia smith
Very cool.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
We'll talk about it.
david reaboi
And, uh, and yeah, we can talk about it.
Great to be here.
tim pool
This guy, this guy, Ian is sitting here.
ian crossland
What up, homie?
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
lydia smith
What's going on with Ian's camera?
It's giving me static.
You look like yesterday.
ian crossland
Give me the skinny.
lydia smith
You look just like you did yesterday, which is actually an issue because I'm pretty sure something's going on with your camera.
ian crossland
Table of the Elements, what's up?
lydia smith
Yeah, we can't see you at all.
What is happening, Tim?
tim pool
Ian's camera's just frozen on a still of him.
I tried to fix it twice.
lydia smith
I've been running around the studio like a crazy person.
tim pool
What do you think?
Let me try.
lydia smith
Let's see if Tim can magically fix it.
Anyway, I'm also here in the corner.
It's Friday.
Yeah, we're chilling.
ian crossland
I'll tell you a little story.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
ian crossland
There was a frog, and he was having a hard time in the woods, so he ended up meeting this other frog.
And the two of them went off and they, uh, you gotta figure it out?
unidentified
It's still frozen!
lydia smith
Yeah, it's just frozen.
WTF, Ian?
Well, I'll, uh... Your magnetic force is too much.
I'll listen for a while and, uh... Oh, sorry.
tim pool
You wanna switch chairs?
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
lydia smith
Actually, yeah, that could work.
Alright, we're gonna wing it, guys.
It's Friday.
tim pool
Is the other camera on?
lydia smith
I'll turn it on.
tim pool
It's funny because, like, you hear Ian talking and there's just, like, a still of him, just, like, in a weird face.
Well, I do have news.
We have, uh, upgrades coming.
So that computer we ordered months ago is finally getting put together.
And hopefully we'll get it and, uh, you know.
lydia smith
Alright, let's see.
unidentified
Rebuild.
lydia smith
Let's see if we can see Ian.
tim pool
Can we see Ian?
lydia smith
There he is!
Yes!
tim pool
Is your microphone working?
No, it's not working.
lydia smith
It's on.
tim pool
It is?
ian crossland
Yeah, we're good.
lydia smith
Looking good.
Yeah, I can't hear.
david reaboi
It's a little low.
lydia smith
Can you hear anything at all?
Alright, let me turn him up a bit.
ian crossland
We've had a ton of lingering issues after the power went out.
lydia smith
So we had a really bad storm, knocked all the power out, and then everything kind of got frazzled.
ian crossland
But, you know, whatever.
Ian is here. He's gonna get this plasma ball charged.
lydia smith
Cool. You gotta plug it in.
ian crossland
Rock and roll!
tim pool
So for those that are wondering, we've had a ton of lingering issues after the power went out.
So we had a really bad storm, knocked all the power out, and then everything kind of got frazzled.
But, you know, whatever. You'd think we'd be professionals at this point, but...
david reaboi
This looks like a professional outfit to me.
lydia smith
It looks like it.
tim pool
It's like almost there.
It's like halfway there.
It looks like it, but we're winging it half the time.
ian crossland
Semi-pro.
tim pool
We just got an AV guy to set compression, and we've been doing the show for over a year, like a year and a half.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Everyone's like, the sound is bad.
It's like, eh, we'll figure it out.
lydia smith
We'll get there.
david reaboi
It's fine.
unidentified
It's fine.
lydia smith
Yeah, I sure can.
I can turn you up, man.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
unidentified
Hey.
lydia smith
How's that, Ian?
tim pool
Before we get started.
ian crossland
Nothing yet.
tim pool
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But let's talk about the story that's gonna get us in trouble.
Here we go.
Exclusive from the Daily Mail.
They say COVID-19 has no credible natural ancestor and was created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with, quote, retroengineering to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats.
Explosive new study claims.
They say, The study researchers found unique fingerprints in COVID-19 samples they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a laboratory.
Now, I will stress, we've already heard this last year.
And you had that one guy, Luke, what's his... I can't remember his name.
He's a famous virologist, won the Nobel Peace Prize, said the same thing.
They called him a crackpot.
They called him a conspiracy theorist.
We've heard similar things before, we're hearing it again.
And the weirdest thing right now is there's a bunch of journalists that are like, there's no evidence LabLeak is real.
There's all the evidence that it was natural zoologic, you know, transfer or whatever.
And I'm like, alright, let me break down where we're at so far.
Okay, I'm gonna start with the timeline as we know it now, not what's the timeline of the reporting.
U.S.
provided funding to EcoHealth Alliance.
Money from that pool went to the Wuhan lab for what's called gain-of-function research, where they tried to make viruses gain functions.
The idea is that by making a virus stronger, we'll understand it before it emerges in the wild.
So that's happening.
Then around November 2019, some people got sick.
Videos came out, reports came out, suggesting that at some point, people had been bitten by a bat or bats had peed on somebody.
So then, a few months later, we start getting reports of this sickness emerging in Wuhan.
It starts spreading, and then we start getting speculation that it's from the wet market across the street from the Wuhan lab.
Already people are asking questions.
Could it have emerged?
And, you know, I said often, you know, look, if it's a bad coronavirus, people in a wet market, it's unsanitary.
Actually, I would argue that makes more sense, simply because A biolab still has security, a wet market doesn't.
So if you told me to put a hundred bucks down, I'd be like, yeah, the place with no security.
Why would I bet on the place with security?
But then when you factor in the fact that they were doing gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses, when you factor in that people were getting sick, everything starts to line up.
Now we got Fauci himself saying he's not convinced it occurred naturally, and then we get the story.
They go on to say, Daily Mail exclusively obtained a 22-page paper authored by the British professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Berger Sorensen, set to be published in the Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery.
The studies show that there's evidence to suggest Chinese scientists created the virus while working on a gain-of-function project at the Wuhan lab.
Gain-of-function research, which was temporarily outlawed in the U.S., involves altering naturally occurring viruses to make them more infectious in order to study their potential effects on humans.
According to the paper, Chinese scientists took a natural coronavirus backbone found in Chinese cave bats and spliced onto it a new spike, turning it into the deadly and highly transmissible COVID-19.
The researchers who concluded that COVID-19 has no credible natural ancestor
also believe scientists reverse engineered versions of the virus to cover up their tracks.
We think that there have been retro-engineered viruses created, Dalgleish told DailyMail.com.
They've changed the virus, then tried to make out it was a sequence years ago. The study also points
to deliberate destruction, concealment, or contamination of data in Chinese labs and notes
that scientists who wish to share their findings haven't been able to do so or have disappeared.
Now that's where it gets a little weird.
I'd like to read about that because it sounded a bit conspiratorial.
Until recently, most experts have staunchly denied the origins of the virus were anything other than natural infection leaping from animals to human.
Earlier this week, Dr. Anthony Fauci defended U.S.
funding of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, saying the $600,000 grant was not approved for gain-of-function research.
And I also want to make sure we absolutely stress Fauci bombshell as reported by the hill.com not convinced COVID-19 developed naturally outside Wuhan lab Take just take that quote from Fauci.
All right, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna sit here We're gonna say I don't know about this study.
Maybe the study is not true.
I don't know.
All right YouTube's banned people for less but Fauci said he's not convinced it developed naturally outside the lab If the first reported cases were from outside the lab, but it didn't develop naturally outside the lab, then it stands to reason the lab leak hypothesis is true and it was manufactured in the lab.
Unless Fauci's wrong again?
ian crossland
It developed naturally in the lab.
tim pool
How does it develop naturally in a lab?
ian crossland
I don't know.
The logic follows that that could also be a possibility.
tim pool
The moment they put the virus in the lab.
Let's say they found the virus in a bat.
And they put the bat in the lab.
And they put the bat in a box.
And then the virus mutates.
That's lab engineered.
They change the conditions of the bat.
That's the bare minimum for me, I suppose.
david reaboi
Look, this is a tremendous, horrible, horrible slander of the wet market community.
tim pool
I mean, it is.
david reaboi
And I mean, imagine the guy who owns that wet market.
Is it one man is one guy?
I don't know.
Maybe he's the one guy who subleases to all the other wet marketeers.
tim pool
Did you see that New York Times reporter who said that LabLeak was racist?
david reaboi
Sure.
unidentified
Of course.
david reaboi
Well, no.
I mean, what's more racist, LabLeak or wet market?
tim pool
Exactly.
So it's that's what's funny.
So the reporter for The New York Times was covering COVID tweeted that one day we'll we'll stop talking about LabLeak and discuss the racist origins or whatever.
And then people were like, The wet market is more racist.
You know, like the lab is plausible in that people, labs have accidents.
lydia smith
Could happen anywhere.
tim pool
But then to accuse the Chinese people of having these filthy, disease-ridden markets is like... Well, it's because we eat bats.
lydia smith
I mean, yeah, that's not nice.
tim pool
But did they really?
I thought that was like an urban legend or like a myth that they were eating bats.
david reaboi
Like people were saying bat soup and then I guess... What are you selling live bats for at a wet market if you're not going to eat it?
I don't know.
I mean, this is all this is all, you know, coming from media reports and, you know, all that all that nonsense that that came out initially.
You know, we heard about the wet market.
We heard about the bats and, you know, people joking about bat soup and all this stuff.
And of course, then the media backlash.
Oh, my God, all this is racist.
ian crossland
Yeah.
david reaboi
So don't talk about it.
It's all racist.
tim pool
It's the weirdest thing.
And I guess it's because they hated Trump and Trump suggested it.
So then all of a sudden they had to.
I think it's a combination of that.
Trump says something they must say the opposite.
But I also I also think that politically they saw it as a way to go after Trump.
If this was a natural phenomenon, it's Trump's fault.
And then they can they can they can use that to get Trump out.
david reaboi
Think about this, though.
We we have an we have an idea that the media is getting less powerful as alternative media rises.
I thought that for a couple of years.
I thought that it was declining in power.
And what Covid showed me was that these guys are still insanely powerful.
I mean, think about this.
We have the biggest story in the world.
Everyone is hysterical, afraid of this virus.
And yet we're like a year on and we're only now starting to think, hey, How did this thing happen?
I mean, in what world is that?
9-11 happens immediately, as soon as the rubble is cleared.
No, not even.
I was in New York.
The sky is full of clouds.
It's like, all right, who did it?
tim pool
Right.
david reaboi
How'd this happen?
Who did it?
And for this, we go a year.
tim pool
And it's not just the media, though.
Clearly the media is a component of an establishment power.
That's, they either because they are pressured by each other, they're scared of being ostracized.
CNN says something, YouTube says that's the truth, we decided.
If CNN says it, it's true.
And so you go on YouTube and you make some claims about the election, they'll ban you.
You make some claims about COVID, they'll ban you.
But for four years, Sure.
The media could go on YouTube and make the most outrageous, nonsensical claims about
Donald Trump and it was totally acceptable.
So yeah, I'll tell you this, I've made the point that social media has empowered the
individual, but like I stated in the opening when I was doing the promo spot, CNN gets
hundreds of millions of views on YouTube.
Why?
Because YouTube guarantees that if you search for news, they will send you CNN.
It's not just that they've decided CNN is the truth.
They've decided it's the only thing you're allowed to watch.
So how do we combat that?
People just gotta keep talking.
Talk as much as you can, I guess.
david reaboi
And it's even worse than that because you've got an entire industry now that has developed the, you know, let's say the so-called disinformation industry, which is really just a mutation of the old countering violent extremism industry during the War on Terror.
It's basically the same people.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
david reaboi
They've retooled themselves and they've created metrics And all kinds of justifications for saying, no, CNN is authoritative, but Tim Pool isn't is, you know, it's not this information.
tim pool
Well, so they actually Google told me I could become authoritative if I chose to do it.
If there's a process you go through, you have to, like, fill out forms and then submit something and then they put you on their authoritative list.
So it's possible.
The challenge is that it's it's an obvious institutional bias.
So I do believe YouTube likes me more than other channels.
david reaboi
Well, sure, because you get a lot of views.
tim pool
Maybe.
But I certainly think that there are smaller channels that are still decently sized that have gotten strikes for saying similar things to me.
And, you know, we're running a risk here simply talking about the story because YouTube, they go nuts.
I mean, Crowder cited the CDC data and they nuked him.
Right.
david reaboi
Well, I mean, I also think that you've got such, you've created such a nice, serious infrastructure around the show with, you know, with the house and the equipment and the team and everything.
I mean, that I think that for YouTube and some of these, you know, let's just say for YouTube, they look at this and they say, this is, this is a story that we want told.
We want someone like Tim Pool to be able to make a living and to thrive on this platform.
Because if you get yanked and you get banned, that's a big story.
tim pool
And it's bad for business.
YouTube is a very dangerous place to run a business.
Facebook is a very dangerous place to run a business.
Actually, YouTube did a survey.
Everybody got it, probably, if you're a YouTuber.
And it's like, fill out our survey.
And it asked me questions about what platforms I use.
And I'm like, I use Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, whatever.
And then it's like, how do you feel about them?
How confident are you?
And I'm just like, oh, not at all.
Like, Twitter, do you feel safe using them?
No way!
Do you think they have your best interest?
Absolutely not.
And then for YouTube, I'm like, YouTube is definitely not a safe place for a business.
It does provide an opportunity for reach and for revenue, but YouTube could ban you at any moment without notice, and they've done it before.
They did it to a guy named Mumkey Jones.
He had no strikes, he broke no rules, and they deleted all of his channels without warning because they found his content distasteful.
That was it.
He broke no rules.
He just made... It was black comedy.
And they didn't like it.
He did... I'll leave it there.
It's spicy comedy, but it wasn't racist.
It was just... It was like the edge of edgy.
And they deleted his channel outright.
So, this is the world we live in right now, where, of course, YouTube wants people to believe you can be a creator, so long as you follow these rigid guidelines we don't explain to you.
david reaboi
That will change at any moment.
tim pool
Right.
We just learned this is really interesting from Project Veritas, too.
I don't know if you saw this where they had the whistleblower come out and they say that publicly
Facebook's guidelines are very vague. Internally they're extremely well-defined and they do that
so that way when they ban someone they can, oh well you know this rule is violated for this reason,
unidentified
and they can just make it whatever they want. Right, so I mean Twitter is the same.
david reaboi
Twitter operates exactly the same way.
I was, a few years ago, I was in a back-and-forth at length with some Twitter folks, you know, folks who work at the company, whose job it was, they saw, hey, you know what, let's reach out to conservatives who are, you know, who have a platform online.
And I went at them and I said, look, you're you're shadow banning.
You're doing all of these things.
You're throttling the amount of views that people will get that that viewers will get.
And they denied all of this.
But they admitted to having, I think, some 300 different metrics or types of metrics that will decide who you are based on behaviors.
tim pool
Right.
david reaboi
So that they can look you in the eye and they say, we do not ban conservatives.
tim pool
It is the stupidest lie.
And the issue, I guess, is I don't know why any conservative would believe them.
And I don't know why any conservative would argue with them.
I've argued with them.
But we know they're lying.
They know we know they're lying.
And they know we know they know they're lying.
They know we know they know we know they're lying.
david reaboi
Yes.
I wrote a piece about it at the Federalist, I think in 2018, describing this whole back and forth.
And I told them, you know, my Twitter hasn't grown more than, I don't know, 200, 300 in the last nine months.
It's obvious that something is going on because of how exponential growth works.
And the guy looked at me and said, maybe your tweets just aren't so good.
We can offer you a class on how to tweet better.
I mean, the chutzpah!
You know, and this guy had like, you know, 400 followers or something.
And he's and he's and he's talking to me.
And it's like, I mean, it's so obvious that the finger is on the scale.
It's so obvious that that this is going on.
It's not even debatable.
But of course, you've got you know, we went through four years of Donald Trump where I knew this was a problem in January of 2017.
You know, I mean, I'm not special.
A lot of people saw that this was an issue.
And nothing was done.
tim pool
The Republicans didn't do anything about it when they had the power to do it.
david reaboi
Nothing.
tim pool
And they're not gonna now.
We get hearing after hearing after hearing, they don't do anything.
david reaboi
Oh, at the federal level?
Absolutely not.
At the federal level, all these guys.
DeSantis.
So DeSantis.
So I was there at the bill signing.
You were there?
I was there at the bill signing.
And it was great.
The room was electric because everybody knows what is up here.
Everybody knows.
It used to be that it's like, okay, you know, Milo, Alex Jones, these people who, you know, you'd never meet in a million years, but, you know, they got banned.
But now it's grandma getting banned.
tim pool
Yeah, it's people who are just saying, you know, learn to code, making jokes.
david reaboi
Right.
tim pool
Now here's where it gets crazy.
You ready for this one?
Tech groups sue DeSantis over social media bill.
I knew it.
I thought someone in Florida was going to file a lawsuit against the big tech companies immediately.
Instead, it's the other way around.
ian crossland
You get a few minutes, a few days, and whoever strikes first, it's basically when two countries are going to go to war.
One of them gets to declare the war and invade.
And if you wait, the other one's going to invade you.
So you invade first.
tim pool
Let's see what we got here.
They say two technology groups on Thursday filed a lawsuit in Tallahassee federal court challenging a controversial bill that Governor DeSantis said is aimed at cracking down on social media censorship.
But opponents argue it's an unconstitutional infringement of free speech.
That's factually not true.
It's not.
david reaboi
Well, it's the free speech of the corporation.
tim pool
Right.
But the issue is... So we've had an interesting conversation about this.
The New York Times, for instance, If they take an article from you and publish it, it's their speech.
What happens if you write the article, submit it through a submissions portal, and then they publish it?
That's actually your speech, even though they chose to publish through a submission portal.
Does that make sense?
david reaboi
No.
tim pool
And that's the way it works right now.
So, no, this does not actually stop the corporation's free speech.
david reaboi
No, of course.
I mean, I agree with you, but that's the argument that they're making.
tim pool
It's a fake argument.
david reaboi
It's a fake argument, but all of this is good.
You know, it's got to go through the courts.
It's got to be fought.
You know, frankly, the thing that needs to happen right now is, you know, you've got to get some conservative donors putting some money into into fighting this in a in a public In a public way.
Let's get some C4s.
Let's get people out there pushing this.
Everybody knows that this is a huge issue.
tim pool
I think a C3 could do this.
A 501c3 could handle this.
It's not political.
david reaboi
Sure.
tim pool
Just going after censorship in general is a tax deductible cause.
david reaboi
Yeah.
And supporting some of and supporting some of this pushback.
You know, even if DeSantis will, because it's, you know, as you know, it's not just one thing on one issue.
You know, he's doing the, you know, the riot stuff.
He's doing other stuff.
You know, they're going to take him to court for over everything.
unidentified
Yep.
david reaboi
And it seems, I mean, sadly, look, I loved Ron DeSantis.
I think Florida is the best state in the union right now.
But unfortunately, we're alone.
And this has got to change.
tim pool
I love it.
Here, let me read this quote.
Let me just explain something.
The bill targets, I think they have to have like a hundred million users?
amendment rights of private online businesses, says Carl Zabo, vice president and general
counsel of NetChoice.
By weakening the first amendment rights of some, Florida weakens the first amendment
rights of all.
Let me just explain something.
The bill targets, I think they have to have like 100 million users?
Oh, since when has the left been like, but what about the ultra wealthy and the massive
multinational corporations?
Who's going to protect them?
That's where they're at right now.
This is the funniest thing.
I saw somebody, they were commenting about Ted Cruz.
He made a comment about your medical choices should be your choice and no government should intervene.
And then all these leftists are like high-fiving, like, oh yeah, now do abortion!
And I'm like, that's really funny, because you can make fun of Ted Cruz, but what about the disaffected liberals who have always been in favor of regulating massive corporations, or who have been pro-choice the whole time, and are telling you you're insane?
See, they ignore people like me, because it's inconvenient.
It's convenient for me to a certain degree, because then I don't get the smear pieces coming out all the time.
But yeah, when I say, ten years ago, we gotta regulate these massive corporations that are stealing the commons, and polluting our waters, and colluding with foreign interests, And then they say the same thing.
Now I'm still saying the same thing.
Oh, but it benefits conservatives.
So now they're not gonna say anything.
And then what they'll do is when a conservative comes out, they say, you just hate free speech!
You're gonna regulate these companies, take away their free speech rights!
Because corporations are people, my friend.
david reaboi
The chutzpah of these people is so far beyond.
It's so far beyond anything.
Because, I mean, in my mind, it's very simple.
Is there such a thing as a public square?
Is it possible for a public square to be owned in 2021 by a private entity?
Yes, of course.
Yes, of course, this is obvious.
You know, this is what a lot of the libertarian types and the people, you know, frankly, who are taking a ton of money from, you know, from big tech are saying is that they're denying that this is a thing.
And the other thing is, if you, you know, you are allowing these corporations to have more power than governments.
tim pool
Yeah.
david reaboi
India, Hungary, Poland, the US, all these other places have gotten into conflicts with these big tech companies.
The big tech companies usually end up winning.
And this is and it's and it's and it's it's crazy because they are unaccountable to anybody.
I mean, is this a and it really speaks to what this government is.
tim pool
My favorite group of people in all of this are the libertarians who should be on the side of the free speech of the individual, but instead are on the side of free speech for the massive multinational corporations and the oligarchs behind them.
The reason I love it is because they hate them.
Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, they hate libertarians.
They despise them.
They ban them and shut them down.
And so you have, like, there's three groups right now.
You've got the Democrat large left umbrella, which includes some leftists who, as Glenn Greenwald, I think it was Glenn Greenwald who said this, they're the one group of people with the least ability to learn because they advocate for censorship and then they keep getting censored.
You have conservatives who are like, Well, we normally don't, we aren't for regulation, but in this instance, we recognize the importance of it and we must have our rights protected.
And I'm like, makes sense to me.
And then you have libertarians who are like, we are being banned and smeared and insulted.
I hope Facebook has the right to remove us because in 20 years, our ideology won't exist anymore.
It's the most amazing thing to libertarians.
I had a long argument a couple years ago with this libertarian guy.
And he's like, we shouldn't be telling what these private businesses can or can't do.
And I was like, bro, fine.
I don't care.
I was like, I'm not lib right.
I'm not in your bubble.
So when Facebook decides to delete every single libertarian candidate and every single libertarian personality, which they're going to do, and they do, antiwar.com, we had Scott Horton in here, antiwar.com got censored.
Why?
It's anti-establishment.
They want war.
They want bombs.
So they get banned too, and then they advocate for their own banning.
It's remarkable.
Like, well, they shouldn't ban us, I guess, but it is a private company.
All right, well, in five years, you won't be a part of the conversation, and I won't have to argue with you anymore, so whatever.
david reaboi
There should also be a distinction.
I mean, I'm not actually for making this distinction because I think that both of these things, both, you know, the social media companies and Google, you know, and other search engine companies.
I mean, we have the same problem with both of them.
Right.
But the libertarians and the phony conservatives will, you know, I mean, they will They will say that Facebook and these social media companies, that you have alternatives.
You don't have to exist on them.
But as far as the search engine goes, Google is really the institutional memory of Western civilization at this point.
And you take something out of the search engine.
And it's gone.
tim pool
I often see stories pop up from the Gateway Pundit.
Yeah.
And I'm not a big fan of using them for the most part.
They have some credibility for some writers.
But I'll see a story and I'll be like, OK, I want to fact check this.
And I'll go on Google and I'll type it in.
It's like, doesn't exist.
There's a bunch of sites that are just non-existent on Google.
Andrew Yang put it really well when he was talking about antitrust not being the right answer.
There needs to be something else.
when he said, how many of you want to use Bing?
And everyone's like, laughs.
He's like, exactly, nobody's going to use Bing.
It's like, Google is the service.
Google is what people use.
But DuckDuckGo is moving in and it's an opportunity to use something.
The problem is we're trying to market, right?
That's the thing.
I invent... Look at this.
I got a bottle of water.
And I want to get this bottle of water to as many people as possible.
So, you go where the people are.
Facebook and Google have bought up the largest spaces.
And they're now privately owned public spaces.
Do you know what a Pops is in New York?
A privately owned public space?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
So this is what happened with Occupy Wall Street, Zuccotti.
Where they had the protest was privately owned, but because it was open to the public, they couldn't evict the protesters.
They were allowed to protest there.
So I try explaining this to people, I'm like, okay, check it out.
So the ultra-rich people, like Deutsche Bank or whatever, they have these privately owned public spaces.
And the courts ruled that you can privately own them, but as long as you welcome the public in, you can't shut down First Amendment activity.
So Occupy Wall Street was allowed to stay so long as they liked it.
david reaboi
What's the benefit of owning them then?
tim pool
So they buy property for the property value, but then what do you do with it?
They turn it into a public space and just let it be a park or something.
There's probably some write-off there somewhere, some city benefit.
david reaboi
I'm sure there's some write-off there.
tim pool
Regardless, I don't know exactly, other than if you're open to the public, then First Amendment rights apply to you, not to them.
And so now you have Twitter.
It is a public space, a public forum.
It's already been ruled a public forum in the past, although that did get overturned by the Supreme Court.
People go there to speak.
A private corporation owns it.
They should not have the right to shut down the speech of an individual.
If we're to operate under the assumption that this is a violation of Twitter's free speech rights, then you're suggesting that Twitter is speaking for us?
Like when I tweet with my face next to my words, you're saying Twitter is being compelled to speak?
No it isn't.
It's a utility.
It's a platform.
Everyone knows Twitter didn't say that.
So what's the excuse?
That's it.
It's just a lie.
Because they know.
Right now the Democrats are like, look, these people who run these companies are on our side.
So we'll just agree with them.
Conservatives, they're getting wiped out.
And I think that was a huge contributing factor to Trump losing in 2020.
ian crossland
I'm finding it's a very different situation to walk into Twitter's one of their buildings and start saying what you think and then getting arrested or taken out by their public private security.
That's fine.
tim pool
It's a private building.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a private building.
But when you use a service online, it's not a private building anymore.
So their right to censor you and stop you seems to end at the door of their headquarters or of their owned property.
So that's kind of the way I'm looking at it.
You know, if you set up your business in Walmart, Walmart can shut you down at will.
But if you have a business on YouTube, you're not in YouTube's building anymore.
You're not on their property.
tim pool
The big problem, I think, is For one, people need to sue more.
Conservatives should have been suing.
And you know what really annoys me is I hear from all these conservative lawyers, you can't because you're going to lose because of this precedent.
I don't care, just sue, just sue, just sue.
James O'Keefe, look at that guy.
He's like, fires the missiles, you know, and he just goes for it.
And then he actually ends up winning, defeating a motion to dismiss in the New York Times case.
Everyone said it can't be done until he did it.
Too many people aren't pushing back.
They're getting censored.
They don't sue.
A lot of people sue and they lose, but good for them for at least trying.
Set precedent.
Get better arguments.
david reaboi
I mean, all of this, too, is like, you know, they're they're trying to they're trying to whatever arguments that they can come up with, because what they really want to do is they really want to control the flow of information.
And they are on their worldview has been rocked to its core by Trump's victory.
tim pool
Yeah.
david reaboi
And by the fact that there is stuff out there online that they don't like.
They thought they would be ushering in a new era of online, you know, woke, you know, new consciousness where everything, they didn't see that, that, you know, there would be an underbelly.
I mean, the underbelly is us.
unidentified
You know what I think?
david reaboi
But they didn't see it.
tim pool
I grew up online.
I've had the Internet as long as I can remember.
My family had CompuServe on DOS or whatever.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
Then we had CompuServe on Windows and then we had AOL.
So I've been in the chat rooms, and I have been exposed to the nastiness that is the Internet my whole life.
And I knew the trolls and the hackers and the memes.
So growing up, I'm like, welcome to the Internet.
But a lot of these people, they probably did not have the Internet at a young age.
A lot of people I went to school with didn't have computers.
So, it was a time when, I'm a little kid, I have a Windows 3.1 machine.
Not everybody had a computer in their house.
They weren't using AOL.
Not only that, if the parents were, they're not letting their kids go in a chat room, and hear the, see nasty adult stuff.
So what happens is, these millennials, they grow up, and it's not until they're teens, they actually get on the internet.
And they're in more safe environments with more restrictions.
Now they're adults, and they're, oh no!
People are saying mean things online!
How can this be?
And interestingly, you know, Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey have decided to side with that
faction. Why? It's really simple. Take a conservative, take a liberal, put them in a
room and then yell a curse word. Guess who's going to care?
david reaboi
Guess who's going to scream?
tim pool
Yeah. And so if you're running a business and you're selling donuts and then you have a
conservative and a liberal there and one of your employees stubs his toe and screams, ah, F, guess
I think what you're describing is kind of 1.0.
do in any way, any way pander to the ideology of the conservative
who didn't care someone blurted out a cuss word or they can just
go to the Karen and be like, but that's one point.
david reaboi
Oh, I think what you're describing is kind of one point.
Oh, at two point where we're at or whatever, whatever number we're
at.
You've got 80 percent of the company, let's
say, from middle management on down that is totally woke that
is going to revolt if you don't do Exactly.
So, you know, so if you're running the company, I mean, I know people who or heard of people who, you know, feel like they're not in control of their own company.
tim pool
That's kind of sad.
david reaboi
It is kind of sad.
It's, you know, once you let it grow to be too big.
And you know what?
Don't hire Woke.
If you're hiring Woke, then you don't know the game.
tim pool
Never get investors.
ian crossland
Don't take investments if you don't need them.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Don't take investments, man.
So you look at, like, The Intercept with Glenn Greenwald.
Go, bro!
Glenn Greenwald had to resign from his own company.
He had no control over it.
He created a monster.
And now it's just rampaging around.
It's a bummer.
I mean, good for him for speaking out against it, but he made this machine.
david reaboi
Of course.
tim pool
He has no control over it.
david reaboi
And they won.
I mean, he's doing great work outside of that organization.
And they've got his funding.
But yeah, right.
I mean, how many years did he spend putting his credibility on the line, asking for the money?
tim pool
The Intercept right now is a skin suit with some kind of skin walker inside of it.
And it's like, you know, it's like Edgar from Men in Black.
You know, when the bug alien is in the Edgar suit?
unidentified
Social justice!
tim pool
That's what it is.
The New York Times is the same way.
It just keeps happening.
david reaboi
And yeah.
And look, I mean, they're like, you know, digital Hessians for Antifa, too, because they will go and they'll, you know, they'll serve the purpose of marking the target.
unidentified
Well, what a pessimistic Friday night.
david reaboi
We can keep going.
ian crossland
We mentioned earlier that we're talking about that gain of function.
This is a little going back to what we're talking about earlier, that you'd said in that story that the U.S.
made it illegal to do gain of function research.
tim pool
It was temporarily outlawed.
ian crossland
Oh, so it's legal again.
tim pool
No, I think they shut it down recently.
ian crossland
So then they were paying a company to fund it in China instead?
tim pool
No, a grant was given to EcoHealth, and then EcoHealth gave the money to Wuhan.
ian crossland
So it's like, not our business.
david reaboi
Where else are they doing gain-of-function research that we're paying for?
ian crossland
But we're not paying for it.
We're paying someone else to pay for it for us with our money.
david reaboi
Right.
As if, you know, as if, you know, the other countries in the world can't also pay for this.
ian crossland
Yeah.
david reaboi
I mean, imagine how much of this stuff is going on at all times right now in any number of labs around the world.
tim pool
Probably a lot.
It's probably creepy.
I'm sure it's a lot worse than we realize, though.
You know, you have this one lab in Wuhan where they're doing this research.
Imagine what the U.S.
government has under lock.
unidentified
Area 51?
tim pool
Yeah, if they're going to be providing funding to different labs in other countries, imagine what they do when they actually have their hands on the project, you know what I mean?
david reaboi
And when I heard about the story immediately, I thought maybe this is like a CIA black site type of thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
david reaboi
Where they say, you know what?
The really sketchy stuff, we're going to put it abroad.
unidentified
Yeah.
david reaboi
We'll pay.
We'll underwrite it.
lydia smith
That makes sense.
david reaboi
We'll put it abroad.
The really sketchy stuff.
But it's exactly the opposite.
You know, when you're dealing with sensitive things like this, it's not like, you know, it's not like a CIA black site in Egypt where, you know, a jihadi guy is getting his, you know, his mouth chopped off.
Something's happening.
lydia smith
Sure, yeah.
david reaboi
Something's happening.
But like, there's limited fallout from that compared to a Wuhan virus.
tim pool
Play, uh, play dangerous games, man.
david reaboi
Win dangerous prizes.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
Hey, David, can we talk about your book for a minute?
david reaboi
Sure.
I'll hold it up.
ian crossland
Yeah, this is, so this is about Qatar.
You said that there is a shadow, what's it called exactly?
david reaboi
It's Qatar's shadow war, the Islamist emirate and its information operations in the United States.
ian crossland
So the first thing I thought was, this is an American shadow war in Qatar, but you were saying there's actually, how do you say it, a Qatari's, what's the what's the word?
david reaboi
Qatari.
ian crossland
Qatari.
This is a Qatari shadow war basically being waged upon the United States.
david reaboi
Well, in the in the United States for their, let's say, in the media and government of the United States for, you know, for Qatar's advantage and for the advantage of Islamism.
It's, I mean, really, you know, kind of really short story is Qatar is the state sponsor of the Muslim Brotherhood.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
And they run Al Jazeera Plus.
david reaboi
They run Al Jazeera Plus.
tim pool
That ultra-woke network with billions of views on Facebook.
david reaboi
And they run a lot of other stuff, too.
I mean, they run, you know, Brookings.
The oldest and biggest think tank in the world.
They run Brookings.
I mean, to the extent that run, it's very creatively, you know, described.
So they will go, they will be big donors into Brookings, the U.S., but then they have a franchise.
So they have they have Brookings Doha, which is, you know, owned by the royal family of Qatar that's in Qatar.
And, you know, that's a black box of funding.
I mean, they don't have to tell us what you know, how much money comes in there.
So they use that that brand as as legitimacy.
tim pool
So what are they what are they doing?
What are they doing to us?
david reaboi
So, I mean, basically, they're they're doing a couple of things.
I argue that the Arab Spring that happened in, let's say, late 2010 up until 2011 was a project of the Qataris through al-Jazeera and the Brotherhood to destabilize the Middle East.
ian crossland
Really?
david reaboi
Al Jazeera was, let's say, the primary mover of a lot of those protests.
And not only that, it was, you know, between Al Jazeera and Brookings and all the other
assets that Qatar had in the United States, it was able to convince journalists and politicians
and influencers of other types that, you know, these governments in the Middle East that,
you know, have supported us and we've supported for all these years.
We should not support Mubarak.
We should support, you know, the revolution against him, let's say, in Egypt.
And the same thing in Libya.
The Libya war was a total Al Jazeera-Qatari production.
tim pool
I mean, Hillary Clinton really wanted that.
david reaboi
Yes, what did she say though?
tim pool
We came, we saw, he died?
david reaboi
No, she said, look at this, she was in the front of the Senate and she went on and on about how wonderful Al Jazeera coverage is.
She said, her quote was, that is real news.
tim pool
But was it because they were supporting what she wanted?
david reaboi
Yes, so there was an alignment there.
What I believe she wanted there was, and what the whole Obama crowd wanted with Libya was, They wanted an opportunity.
They saw what was on Al Jazeera.
They saw the whole Arab world lining up against Gaddafi.
And they thought, OK, Bush is gone.
We want to start a new leaf.
We've made the Cairo speech.
We want to be good to Muslims.
We want to do something to make the Muslim world like us.
All they care about is getting rid of Gaddafi.
We're going to get rid of Gaddafi.
And, you know, and we're going to show them that we're good.
tim pool
Destabilize the entire northern African region?
david reaboi
Destabilize everything, right?
Yeah.
So all of the information for this came from Al Jazeera.
It came from sort of, you know, Qatari influence operators.
tim pool
But I wonder if they were just doing what we want.
They're just doing what Hillary Clinton and Obama, what they wanted in North Africa.
I mean, especially when you look at Syria with the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.
Sure, it would have been very beneficial to Qatar, but the U.S.
wanted to run a pipeline up through Syria and Turkey into Europe to offset the monopoly coming from Gazprom through Ukraine.
And Carter was like, we'll make money doing it, I guess.
So let's just say what they want.
Say what America wants.
America gives us stuff.
We're going to make money in the deal.
So report what's good for them.
david reaboi
Yeah, I think it's, I think they're dumber than that.
I honestly, I legit think that they're more ideological than that.
I mean, it's a mix, right?
It's a mix.
I mean, the Libya thing is a great example because you've got Sidney Blumenthal.
You know, ready to make millions in there.
There are a lot of shady, shady stuff as far as, you know, politicians or people connected to politicians involved in that who are standing to make money off, let's say, post-war Libya.
But still, regardless, there's a story that needs to be told in public.
For anything to happen.
You know, you're talking about the Syria thing.
tim pool
Right.
david reaboi
People need a public narrative.
unidentified
People need a public narrative for Libya, too.
tim pool
Regular Americans, man, it's just, it's, it's, it's maddening.
When I try to have sit down conversations and they just don't know, don't care.
And I'm like, you're giving your money and your vote to people who hate you and are destroying the planet.
And they're like, oh.
david reaboi
Now, do you think they always didn't care?
tim pool
Yes.
That's effective propagandizing, you know?
And when you look at these schools, how they're doing critical race theory, which is making a lot of these kids just... I mean, what was that report that came out?
Like the U.S.
is failing?
Fourth graders, are proficiency in science like 20% or some ridiculously low number?
Because they don't know anything!
Critical race theory, deconstructivism, whatever you want to call it, what they're doing, deconstruction.
These kids are going to be dumb as a box of rocks when they're older.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
And you're going to have a very, very loyal base of dumb people voting for whatever you tell them to vote for.
What's the point of running a country?
What's the point of anything they're doing?
That's why I say they're extracting value from the system and watching it burn to the ground.
Because if your kids are going to be dumb, when you die, you'll have dumb people running the country worse than the dumb people running it now.
So I think we're screwed with that.
They go for the kids.
They teach them things like 2 plus 2 equals 5.
You saw this stuff on Twitter.
Why would you teach a kid 2 plus 2 equals 5?
So they're too stupid to construct like a doorknob.
Oh, I got two pieces.
But how do I have four doorknobs?
It's like you've got one doorknob.
david reaboi
On the same token, you've got the coddling of the American mind.
What is it?
Jonathan Haidt?
Yeah.
Who wrote that this whole thing, you know, all of wokeness could be understood to be a, you know, like, how do you make someone crazy?
How do you make someone crazy?
How do you make someone antisocial?
How do you make someone unable to relate to, you know, to others?
tim pool
And that's what they're doing.
david reaboi
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they're creating a pitchfork mob.
That's what it is on Twitter.
They're just people marching around torches and pitchforks, looking for something because they're angry.
And no rhyme or reason.
ian crossland
Talk about wearing masks and being afraid that someone else is infected with a virus, making people antisocial, especially like young kids that can't see faces.
You can't, you're forced to cover yourself.
tim pool
I mean, but specifically in reference to educating kids and educating them in ways that make no sense.
ian crossland
It's a wonderful coincidence.
tim pool
Two plus two equals five.
is the big one.
Telling people, altering the history of the United States.
Now what you're going to have is you're going to have some kids growing up
learning about ridiculous fake history, and other kids learning different history,
and what's the result?
Civil War.
david reaboi
Yeah.
No, we have other options.
I mean, civil war is I mean, we even have things that we need to do before a peaceful divorce, which is which is a piece that I wrote that I'm still preparing.
It's a longer thing called autonomy, which talks about the need for, let's say, red America to create the things that, frankly, we don't have.
Like financial institutions, like social media networks.
tim pool
The problem is that the cult infiltrated and took them over.
And then conservatives are like, well, I'll go make my own.
It's like, well, you had one.
They took it from you.
david reaboi
Well, they may have taken some businesses, but like they didn't when people say, let's take back the culture.
We never had the culture.
The culture was always in the hands of the Federal Reserve, you know, organizations in the hands of the left, not the right.
ian crossland
That's the left.
david reaboi
But but no, I mean, I think we need autonomy.
We need to be making our own things.
And I mean, doing what you're doing.
tim pool
It's true, and here's what I think is going to happen.
In 20 years, you're going to have a large amount, half the population, are going to believe the United States was founded in 1619 as a slavocracy.
unidentified
True.
tim pool
And then you're going to have another half that thinks the country was founded in 1776 as a classical liberal revolution of the mind, you know, from the colonists.
If you can't agree on what your country is, then you can't function.
And we're already at the point where, you know, I look at Chuck Schumer and the January 6th Commission.
These people are evil, evil people.
It's funny because you can look at objective reality.
Look at all of the videos.
I watched as many videos from January 6th as much as I could.
And I can tell you that there were some people who were very violent.
It was a riot.
There were some people that were let in by the police, and the police agreed to work with them.
The police opened the door for many of these people.
So how do I know it's more likely to be true that's the case?
I watched all of the videos, and I've had the reporters who were there on the ground interviewed on this show.
And what the Democrats are saying is psychotic, It is deception.
It is lies.
And the Democratic voters buy it all up without ever having looked at any of the evidence, without ever having watched anything.
They are mindless drones, and they're advocating for fascism.
And I mean it.
david reaboi
They've already put these things in place.
I mean, they've already retooled.
There's a great thread that I'll find.
I'll sort of retweet it.
About all the things that the, let's say, the national security state, homeland security state, has done to address the January 6th issue.
And it's a revolution.
I mean, they're retooling everything from... They're flying Black Lives Matter flags at our embassies.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
There is a cold civil war.
It's been going on for years.
I did not coin the phrase.
It was a Princeton professor who did.
He's a Democrat.
And they won.
Now it's the resistance.
Most of the prominent, we'll call them belligerents in the traditional war sense, have been purged from the culture war.
Sure.
Alex Jones, Milo, John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King.
ian crossland
I mean, this has been going on for a long time, dude.
This Cold Civil War.
This country was co-opted in 1946, basically.
tim pool
Talking specifically about what's going on right now.
ian crossland
You're talking about modern day, I get it.
tim pool
A bunch of people have been banned and removed from the fight outright.
What's left are moderate types that are like, I reject.
And that's it.
And we watch as the embassies fly the flag of a cult ideology.
david reaboi
Alright, so you see it, I see it.
What fascinates me now are the people who refuse to see it.
And I just wrote a piece at the American Mind, which is a fantastic website, about sort of disengaging with these people on politics.
It's like if you have a fundamental disagreement about where you see these things going, Like, if you think that, oh, you know, we'll be able to snap back into 1980 or, you know, 2004, then you know what?
Maybe we don't talk about politics.
We'll talk about music.
We're just not going to go there.
Because this, to me, seems like such a no-brainer.
I mean, you had today, I saw a guy who was a kind of more nice guy, but a kind of more establishment conservative writer.
He says, you know what, we can't between CRT on one hand and let's say the conservative vision of education of the founding on the other.
We have no disagreement.
We have no agreement.
So we can't really have public education anymore because it doesn't have a unifying ethos.
OK, you got it.
Apply that to the rest of the country.
tim pool
So if conservatives aren't actively trying to educate people as to what's going on, then the left just wins.
unidentified
It's over.
tim pool
And it's already hard enough with the cultural institutions controlled by the left and the constant stream of lies.
The big lie from Democrats about January 6 is just one big lie.
They don't want you to know that the police opened the door.
They don't want you to know that the doors were opened by the cops, and they don't want you to watch the video where that Q shaman walks up to a cop and the cop says, we're gonna work with you, be peaceful, and he goes, you got it, buddy.
And they don't tell you.
They don't want you to know that a story came out about the Q shaman stopping other people from stealing from the break room.
That he was saying we were gonna have a peaceful protest.
No, they want him to rot in solitary confinement.
Then you watch as police, over the past year, This is the problem with conservatives.
Police over the past year have been arresting people for minor violations on wearing masks.
There's no law.
There was never a law when they shut these people's business down.
It was an edict.
A governor said, I say it, and it is so.
And the cop went, you got it, and then started beating and arresting random people.
And the conservatives went, back the blue, baby.
Now, once it started getting extreme, conservatives actually started backing away from the police and pushing back against them.
But it's starting to come back.
I'm seeing more and more conservatives are defending the cops again.
And I'm like, bro, there's a lady in Florida, I think, no, no, I'm sorry, Elizabeth City, North Carolina.
She was driving one mile an hour through a crowd of Black Lives Matter people who were banging on her car, and they're charging her with two felony counts.
The police did that.
Okay, your institutions are controlled by the cult.
The cops that are there right now are the mindless drones who would beat their own mother if their boss told them to do it.
You've got Black Lives Matter flags flying at the embassies.
You've got the FBI posting photos of people saying, we're gonna get each and every one of these guys.
Nothing happens to Black Lives Matter.
Some things do.
Do you know how you, there's a really interesting pattern that emerges.
The people who were protesting for Black Lives Matter and rioting, the ones who were rioting, and they got arrested.
Do you know why those particular individuals got arrested?
It's usually like they threw a brick at a police department.
They attacked a government building specifically.
But when it comes to the burning down of businesses, those people are free to go.
The guy who died in the pawn shop that burned down in Minneapolis,
no, we're not going to worry about that at all.
Oh, but what was that? That Bubba dude from NASCAR, the garage puller up looked like a noose, better send in a
dozen agents.
david reaboi
So this is definitional anarcho-tyranny.
tim pool
Yes.
david reaboi
Exactly.
It is what it is.
tim pool
You know, these... Well, maybe.
But no, I think we've just... I think the cult is in control.
And I think conservatives... Sure.
david reaboi
I mean, you can say... Don't fight.
Well, right.
So you can say that, you know, in many ways, BLM, Antifa are agents of the state.
tim pool
They are absolutely agents of the state.
david reaboi
You know, and, you know, and and if you, you know, you fall outside that, you know, you're on the right, you're, you know, that's exactly how it works.
Then I can I can sit here and the hammer comes down.
But but a mythology has to be created in order for this thing to hold.
A mythology has to be created about our unique particular evil.
Which is what January 6th is.
tim pool
Right.
david reaboi
Which is, you know, and the commission is, this is the idea.
What we're going to do now is we're going to spend the next X number of months to keep hammering home every day that, you know, why these guys are uniquely evil, why this is the enemy that you need to hate if you are a good American.
tim pool
Yep.
And Republicans sided with Democrats on this one in the House and in the Senate.
david reaboi
Yeah.
Look, I mean, it's shameful.
It's shameful that that I mean, forget about Trump.
Right.
This is not even about Trump.
It's about it's about sort of like baseline political warfare, baseline awareness of where we are in the movie.
You know, this is this clearly what they're trying to do.
They're trying to to to create and to Two Towers?
They're trying to create this phantom enemy.
tim pool
If this is a trilogy, we just wrapped up the middle, the second movie, where it ends with a cliffhanger where
the heroes lose.
No, the two towers ended with them smashing up Isengard.
That was awesome.
Treebeard, he's like, we're going to war.
And I'm like, yeah.
No, it's more like maybe Star Wars where, you know, an empire,
it's like Khan's frozen and like the Empire's back and they're like,
And it's like, stay tuned to the next movie!
So it's like, you get the start of the culture war, and it ends with the great victory of Donald Trump, and everyone's like, yeah!
Then you get part two, and it's Donald Trump's presidency, but then, oh no!
The empire strikes back.
And now we're sitting there with the mega Death Star with the force field on it, and, uh, we'll see, we'll see how it goes.
Maybe someone will pick up the emperor and throw him down a shaft.
david reaboi
Or maybe we're really early in the movie.
So that's what that's what I was thinking.
You know, really.
Or even in the or even in the prequels, the prequels.
Yeah.
I mean, who knows?
I mean, it's that bad.
Right.
And I don't know.
tim pool
Like, you know, in the Star Wars prequels, they were there.
There were there's turmoil, but it was still like the Republic existed.
david reaboi
Yeah.
tim pool
Let me maybe.
Maybe.
david reaboi
Let me ask you.
I know where I was just talking earlier about Strauss and how in the fourth turning.
tim pool
Yes.
david reaboi
Do you know John's Anarchist and and generational dynamics?
tim pool
No, don't explain it.
david reaboi
You need to get into this guy.
When I was helping Andrew Breitbart put together Big Piece, he was the first guy that I reached out to, John Xenakis, who has a website called Generational Dynamics.
Basically the Strauss and Howe thesis is that You know, America has four turns, four turns, four turns, and it keeps going different seasons of generations.
tim pool
So just we'll give it for people who aren't familiar.
The real quick is you get a period of what is it of after a crisis?
There's like a great growth.
Then there's a period of sort of, like, the high, we level off.
Then things start to shake.
Then you get a crisis.
Then it goes, after the crisis, things get better again.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So there's four stages, and if you go back from now, like, 80 years, you had World War II.
Before that, you had the Civil War.
Before that, you had the Revolutionary War.
david reaboi
It's a cycle of approximately 80 years.
tim pool
So we're in the fourth turning right now.
david reaboi
Right.
tim pool
So anyway, continue.
david reaboi
Anyway, yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, which isn't... Real quick, sorry.
tim pool
Which means we should be expecting a very serious crisis on the scale of war within the next seven years.
david reaboi
Right.
Generational crisis period.
unidentified
Right.
david reaboi
So, I mean, it's not it's not new.
It's he's taking the cycle of regimes and he's compressing it.
And, you know, and looking at a different way.
Anyway, what Xenakis was doing was he's applying this to international affairs.
So if you're looking at like America is following along one particular rotation, let's say you've got let's say you're talking about America and England.
England has its own rotation.
Iraq has its own rotation.
So it enables you to predict what is going to happen in war and in these things.
It's a methodology more than a particular I think there's going to be a collapse.
tim pool
If you look at this Drossau generational theory, whether it's true or not, I mean, maybe it's just a coincidence that we've had these periods.
And often, you know, people point out, like, what about Korean War?
What about Vietnam?
What about, you know, Iraq and Afghanistan?
Where do these fit into these theories and things like that?
So maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't, but I do see when you have the Democrats lying and it is relentless, it is a zombie horde, they never stop.
There's no break, there's no calm, there's no peace, there's no compromise.
And the best part is they wield the propaganda machines and the big tech establishment to claim it's the Republicans who are doing that when the Republicans are sleeping on the job.
So what happens is I sit here every day.
unidentified
At best.
tim pool
At best they're sleeping on the job.
Yeah, some of them are just absent.
So I sit here every day watching the news and I'm like, here we go again.
The Democrats are lying about everything and the Republicans have, some of them are agreeing with the Democrats and the rest of them are just sitting there acting like speed bumps.
So you watch them.
You watch the empire taking control.
And I really want to stress a point I've been making all week when people would say, how did Nazi Germany get so bad where everybody's doing the Roman salute?
People in this country for the past year have been doing the red salute on marches in the thousands, defying the edicts of the governors in which conservatives got arrested because they were defying the mandates.
Yet these red saluting extremists And regular people who joined in get a pass.
They didn't wear masks, they didn't lock down, and nothing was done about it.
And when you look at New York, what did de Blasio say?
Well, they're allowed to do that.
But what happened when the conservatives stood on the steps of the Michigan Statehouse waving
a little Gadsden flag?
unidentified
Terrorists.
david reaboi
Oh, it was a terrorist attack, yeah.
unidentified
There we go.
ian crossland
We'll have to be careful because the people doing the red salute could be, if you look
at World War II metaphor, the communists, that they developed the Nazi party to counter.
So we got to be careful that we don't end up creating a movement to counter this woke mob that ends up becoming the dangerous Nazis.
tim pool
I don't think there's anything you can do about it, man.
ian crossland
Nope.
What do you mean?
Of course we can.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
We're creating it as we go.
tim pool
No, see, what happens is there's, for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
When you get thousands of people marching through the streets doing the Red Salute, don't be surprised when you get a counter force.
ian crossland
You'll have an energetically equal response, but the way it manifests is up to us.
It could be violent.
It could be peaceful.
It could be organized.
It could be chaotic.
tim pool
It's going to be the exact same thing.
ian crossland
I don't think so.
It shows itself in different ways.
It might be another party like you saw the Proud Boys kind of, but that floundered more or less.
I don't know.
tim pool
They got crushed by the state.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And Antifa is protected by the state.
david reaboi
Anything that comes up from the right that looks anything like Antifa is going to be crushed by the state.
ian crossland
Yeah, they don't want another Nazi party.
david reaboi
That's exactly what January 6th is about.
That's what it's about.
It's in order to stop that.
And frankly, it's in order to stop any more rallies.
Right.
I mean, people are afraid to have rallies.
tim pool
You have a rally, and they're going to make the claim.
January 6th, January 6th.
Correct.
Oh, no.
Yep.
david reaboi
Correct.
And they have, I mean, part of, you know, in my in my kind of past life, I was doing terrorism analysis.
And, you know, so I'm kind of intimately familiar with what they're about to do to us here, which is, you know, they've already they've already created these absurd metrics.
They've already created You know, ideological screens and tests for who is a terrorist and all of us here, frankly, you know, fall under it.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
david reaboi
And, you know, and and and this is how they will justify I mean, you know, this is how they will justify using social media companies.
unidentified
Right.
david reaboi
To go after us, you know, financial institutions, things like that.
tim pool
So it's it's better.
david reaboi
It's very bad.
tim pool
You look you look back at history and you can see the assassination plots against certain, you know, according to the government, the undesirable figures, the activists who are leading the charges for social change and stuff.
So they should have killed people.
But at a certain point, they realize you create martyrs.
You make people immortal.
Then we see Julian Assange.
What do they do to him?
Character assassination.
david reaboi
Keep him in a box.
tim pool
Character assassination.
Destroy his legacy.
Now, the left, that used to love the man, hate the man.
They despise him.
He's a rapist.
It's not true.
Read the news.
It's all clearly fake and made up.
And then lock him in a box and let him slowly die a slow and miserable death.
Julian Assange did a bunch of really great work exposing a lot of the corruption, and so they figured out the best way to deal with him is to make sure he'll never be a martyr.
Don't let him die.
Let him slowly rot away and lose his mental faculties, and then accuse him of extremely heinous crimes so that people are scared to say they support him.
And that's what's in store for everybody else.
But it also means that there's not gonna be trains.
They're not gonna round people up.
That's not gonna happen.
What's gonna happen is they're gonna shut off your credit card, and then you're gonna starve.
And then they're gonna say, well, but it's a private company.
Oh, but, you know, go use your U.S.
dollars.
Go buy... Oh, but the store doesn't take cash?
Well, that's too bad.
Maybe you shouldn't be a bigot.
Bigot?
david reaboi
My friend just lost her PayPal.
Why?
She has no idea.
Gone.
tim pool
Yep.
david reaboi
You know, she's public and on the right.
It could be anything.
tim pool
Yeah.
And, you know, take away your access to banking, which they've done to the Proud Boys.
They've done to a bunch of groups.
It's amazing.
It's happening and it's getting worse every day.
What did they say yesterday?
Gradually and then suddenly, someone said in the super chats.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's and it's remarkable.
david reaboi
That's my line.
It comes from Hemingway.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
david reaboi
It's how do you go broke?
tim pool
Yep.
david reaboi
Gradually and then suddenly from a movable feast.
tim pool
So, what we have now is, uh... I think... I don't think it's, uh... The night is always darkest before the dawn.
But I don't think it's completely hopeless.
I think what'll happen is there will be a collapse.
I think the states will split apart.
I think Florida, Ron DeSantis, is... I know people who are... If I have a friend who's moving, you know where they're moving to?
Texas or Florida.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
And I'm like, come on, West Virginia, what are you doing?
david reaboi
Get on it!
How do you compete with the beach?
It's very hard.
tim pool
Yeah, but the weather, it's so humid.
It's so hot.
It's like 10,000 degrees.
unidentified
Literally.
tim pool
Like I swear, I saw someone just like burst into flames, spontaneously combust once when I was in Miami.
And I'm like, ah!
I had to run to shade.
Have you seen The Core?
Where they go to the center of the earth to reset the core?
david reaboi
There's a scene where like... Oh, so it's a documentary.
tim pool
Yeah.
There's a scene where, like, because the magnetosphere is weak, solar microwaves beam through and it's like this beam is just melting, like, the Golden Gate Bridge and it's collapsing because it's so hot.
That's like Miami.
lydia smith
It's like that, yeah.
tim pool
Like, you're just walking on the beach, you see everyone runs from the sun and people are just being melted and... No, it's not that bad.
But they're going to Florida and Texas because of the laws.
Because Florida and Texas are actually protecting individual rights and resisting all this stuff.
You look at these blue states, That's bad.
And what's really bad is the stuff we're talking about with the cult.
It's blue states putting in people at the federal level who then exert authority over red states.
Makes no sense.
Or like somebody in West Virginia wants to go hunt feral hogs with their buddy down the street and they lend him a gun.
It's fine.
Not in the blue states.
david reaboi
I think that we've been negligent about a lot of local politics in this country.
Every four years we have this big nonsense going on in Washington DC about who gets to be the president.
We've got big nonsense every two years about Congress, etc.
etc.
Nobody knows who their senator, you know, people know maybe who their senator is.
Nobody knows who their representative is.
Nobody knows who the mayor is, etc. etc.
We need, we in red states need to sit down and get into this.
tim pool
Yes.
david reaboi
Local.
Yes.
All the way.
People ask me, oh, you know, do you think so and so will be, you know, will run for
the House?
Who cares?
tim pool
I don't care.
A lot of Republicans did this, too.
They were like, my, you know, our district is bad, and if you vote for me, I'll fix the district.
And I'm like, no you won't, because you're a federal politician.
The person who's gonna fix the district is the alderman, or the local state senator or state rep.
The person running for Congress is gonna go to the federal government to represent your district to the federal government.
They're gonna be voting on war, not voting on whether or not to clean up the trash in your neighborhood.
But they all run on this.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
What do they say, like, I'll get federal money for you?
tim pool
No, it's often vague.
It's like, if you look at our district, you can see how bad things have gotten with crime on the rise.
And I'm like, I don't care.
You don't represent those problems.
The local politicians do.
You're going to go to D.C.
and they're going to ask you, should we bomb this country?
And you're representing this district as to whether or not we bomb the country.
And they're going to vote yes.
ian crossland
The nice thing about the internet is that you can do the local politics and show the world how it's done with internet video, and then they can emulate it.
So you kind of create a decentralized organizational pattern where we can make a really cool YouTube show about what it's like to run local government.
And then the next city will be like, I want to do that too!
And then all over the world at once.
tim pool
I've got a solution.
I've got a solution to all of our political problems.
I call it Marsism.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And we need Elon Musk to help create this new form of government.
It's very simple.
Every time someone runs for office at the federal level and wins, they go onto a ship which sends them to Mars.
That's it.
lydia smith
That's it.
david reaboi
That's a long commute to work.
tim pool
No, no, just go to Mars.
ian crossland
We just move the government.
tim pool
No, the government, the individuals who win.
It's like, yay!
Get in the ship!
Bye!
david reaboi
What if it's better on Mars?
tim pool
That's great.
Good for them.
They'll have a good time, right?
And then we won't have them to bug us.
david reaboi
I guess that's true.
I guess that's true.
tim pool
Nancy Pelosi, you've won for the 30th time.
Here's your rocket ship.
Thank you, Elon.
And then she gets in, and it's like, you know what we do?
david reaboi
I would do that to the teachers' unions first.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
That would be fun.
We put the Capitol building... I got an idea.
This January 6th thing.
It's real bad, all right?
These people, this insurrection.
I know how to prevent it.
Have the Capitol building be on Mars.
Boom.
Send all of those people to Mars and they can talk amongst themselves and vote how they so choose and they'll never have to worry about an insurrection ever again.
david reaboi
Reasonable.
ian crossland
I think you're so right about that we need new industry, that we need new banking and new social media.
I see a government-free software social media service that's based on the First Amendment, the Constitution, and a banking system on the blockchain.
tim pool
Do it at a local level.
Florida should make it.
ian crossland
No joke.
Extrapolate it.
david reaboi
Everybody has a role to play.
Think about this.
Donald Trump received how many votes in 2020?
tim pool
Like, what, 75?
david reaboi
74.2.
74.2?
That's about the population of France.
tim pool
It's more than France, isn't it?
david reaboi
Wow.
unidentified
Right?
david reaboi
So, OK, so how many, sure, how many businesses provide things for the French consumer?
A lot.
This is a big market.
I mean, it's not a small number of people.
tim pool
Texas, Florida, here's what you do.
You pass a bill right now that will create a Florida social network.
Boom.
unidentified
That'd be epic.
david reaboi
Look, Hungary just did this.
tim pool
Yeah?
david reaboi
They just created their own social network.
tim pool
Hungry Space.
unidentified
I love them.
david reaboi
That is familiar to Facebook.
tim pool
Hungry Book.
david reaboi
Hungry Space.
Right.
Yeah.
And, you know, but it's just trying to get off the ground.
But you're gonna need this type of thing.
unidentified
Yep.
david reaboi
You're going to need this type of thing.
tim pool
People wouldn't use it.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
But here, I guess the problem is Trump had the opportunity to change the game and he decided not to.
david reaboi
Exactly.
He didn't know.
tim pool
Trump needed to do one thing.
Trump could have went on Gab and said hi.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And that would have been a shockwave.
ian crossland
I think about that with myself too.
I use Twitter.
Often.
And I'm like, why don't I just post online?
tim pool
It's not that.
It's that Trump commanded the news.
david reaboi
Correct.
Exactly.
tim pool
And so if Trump said, if Trump went on Parler, Gab or Minds or any platform and said, I am going to send a spaceship to the moon, the media would be forced to report.
On, you know, Gab, Donald Trump said this, and the reporters would be forced to sign up to follow him.
And Trump would not do it.
And I guess it was because Jared Kushner, who was just like, I'm not sure that that was the case.
Donald, don't take the power away from Silicon Valley.
david reaboi
I'm not sure that that was the case.
tim pool
The reporting was that Trump wanted to use Parler and Kushner said not to.
So I don't know, maybe it's not true.
david reaboi
I don't know.
I mean, I would love to know the ins and outs of that, but look, it's absolutely inexcusable what he did.
tim pool
And this is why I think DeSantis should run in 2024, not Trump.
And I wonder, where's Trump Jr.
to go to his dad and be like, Dad, get on Gab, like, right now.
david reaboi
Isn't it too late?
tim pool
Oh, it's way too late.
unidentified
And not only that, instead of doing any of that, he could.
tim pool
He could still do it.
It wouldn't matter as much.
He just makes his own website.
Talk about somebody— Cringe.
Cringe.
david reaboi
Absolutely.
tim pool
So it's unfortunate that was the best the anti-establishment had to offer.
david reaboi
But look, this was a problem throughout the Trump years, which was that he consistently empowered— I mean, look, you're the President of the United States.
You can say, I'm going to talk to whoever, you know, whichever media outlet I want, and in so doing, you will elevate this outlet.
Who did he go to?
He talked to New York Times, Washington Post, you know?
Haberman, he was on the phone with her all hours of the night, you know, it was reported.
Like, you know, I'm sorry, call the Federalist.
Call the Daily Caller.
You know?
There's no law that says the New York Times and the Washington Post need to have access.
tim pool
It's because Republicans, Trump included, care more about what the New York Times thinks about them than their own constituents.
Maybe not so much for Trump, but for the Republicans, yes.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
What a loser.
The New York Times comes out and says, you know, this politician, look, look at Ted Cruz, right?
When he went on vacation and then he flew back because the media was yelling at him.
That's so that's so lame.
What a loser.
david reaboi
You think it should have stayed?
tim pool
They're like, I liked Ted Cruz, so I'll take that one back.
But, uh, it was pathetic.
It was one of the most pathetic things.
It's like having a car that's kind of beat up and crappy.
If I went on vacation during a storm or whatever, and the media got mad, I'd get a cigar.
What are those things called where you clip the cigar with it?
You know what I mean?
david reaboi
Clipper.
tim pool
Clipper.
I don't know anything about cigars.
But you know what I'd do?
I'd get one anyway.
I'd get like a velvet or a... Smoky jacket.
No, no, no, no.
Like a robe.
unidentified
A robe.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I'd turn the video on while I'm in whatever place.
I'd put my feet up.
I'd clip the cigar.
I'd light it.
And that's it.
david reaboi
Well, look, that's how you have to do it, because you need to
give them at least at least as much contempt as they give you.
tim pool
Just stop bending the knee.
david reaboi
Well, the problem in American politics, I think the kind of
crucial thing that hit me one day that I realized that a lot
of stuff makes sense is that the Democrat donor is to the left of
the Democrat base.
unidentified
Yep.
david reaboi
The Republican donor is to the left of the Republican base.
So what that does is that encourages the left to move left and encourages civil war on the right.
tim pool
Did you see that video that's going viral where the girl shows the pregnancy test?
And then she's crying, like, what am I- You saw that, Ian?
ian crossland
Yeah, I just saw it today.
tim pool
She's like, what am I gonna do?
Ha, just kidding!
She throws it, she's like, I already got the appointment!
Well, and then she pours a bottle of wine.
I saw, uh, Phil Labonte tweeted it, and he was like- It was an abortion thing.
ian crossland
What?
david reaboi
An abortion.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
She was- she's pro-choice, and she was like- Oh, she already got the- right, right.
She's holding the pregnancy test, going like, oh no, what's gonna happen?
And then she starts laughing, haha!
I am what conservatives fear!
And then she drinks wine or something.
And I'm like, uh, I'm not a conservative.
I don't fear you, but I am disgusted by you.
Because these leftists, their ideology, their mentality is built upon one-upping each other on social media.
So they don't realize that, like, I grew up in a Democrat household of pro-choice individuals who thought abortion was disgusting, but for political and liberty reasons and medical reasons, we were pro-choice.
And it's a difficult thing.
And I remember my dad would always be like, you know, it's a really awful thing.
You should probably avoid it at all costs, but I understand that it's got to be between the person and their doctor and I shouldn't be involved in it.
And I remember growing up being like, safe, legal, rare.
Now you've got one faction that's- Shout your abortion.
Pro-abortion.
It's not pro-choice.
It's literally pro-abortion.
Michelle Wolf goes on Netflix screaming You get an abortion, and you get an abortion, and Lena Dunham says she wished she had an abortion, and I'm like, these videos, man, these are horrifyingly disturbing videos for a moderate, like, former Democrat-type personality.
I go to my family, and they're like, this is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
We're the pro-choice people.
Not anymore.
There was a poll I saw recently.
Most people agree with safe, legal, and rare.
Most people agree with a restriction on third trimester.
david reaboi
By wide margins.
Wide margins, yeah.
tim pool
So who are these fringe lunatics on social media believing that is what people like?
So, Phil is correct.
If there is a move to the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, it's going to be because moderates back off-line.
I'm not on your side.
You're crazy.
It's like, I'm not gonna stand next to that lady.
She can go out and protest.
I'm not doing it.
Nah, I'll be over there.
You guys are nuts.
That's the kind of thing that's a really good example of what's happening.
There is a fringe element where they go on social media and they constantly one-up each other with the most insane psychobabble nonsense.
And regular Democrat voters aren't there.
So these people on social media are dictating what Nancy Pelosi does to a certain degree.
david reaboi
Yeah.
I mean, this is how.
Right.
And this.
But this is how the left is radicalized also.
You know, I mean, now you've got like a West Virginia, you know, upper middle class couple with, you know, three kids who are social justice warriors because because they go on Instagram.
tim pool
It's the craziest thing when I go to like West Virginia and I see the flags and I'm like, what are you doing?
You don't.
What do you live?
But these people are leaving, though.
I read an article from the AP.
The the people who are slightly more woke are leaving West Virginia.
david reaboi
And they're going to big cities.
tim pool
They're going to Oakland and New York and things like that.
So this is the physical polarization.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
This is why I said I think collapse is inevitable.
david reaboi
Fantastic.
tim pool
Red states will get redder.
Blue states will get bluer.
And then eventually you're going to have someone in New York who's like going to run for office.
We're going to get to the point where you have a congressperson who is screaming about how 1619 is fact and these conspiracy Q lunatics believe this country was founded in 1776.
Can you believe it?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But we're there already.
It's just it hasn't happened yet.
Because it was and the guy's going to plot a cane, start whacking him and you know what
that leads to, right?
Right.
So when you see that the ideologies are so completely broken.
david reaboi
But we're there already, it's just, it hasn't happened yet.
It's because there's- I mean all the bricks are in place.
tim pool
Well, no, no, no.
So there's still a large portion of older people who are, like, sitting there with their feet up, kind of like, I don't know, you know, I don't understand what's happening.
But you look at the younger generations that are being raised in this war, millennials, Gen Xers, not so much in it, you know?
david reaboi
No, no, no.
I mean, this is what I was just saying this the other day.
Gen X is like, you guys, I mean, I'm Gen X.
unidentified
Right.
david reaboi
You know.
tim pool
But then Millennials, full scale.
david reaboi
Full on.
Yeah.
tim pool
Gen Z, it is substantially more.
They're very, like, internet based.
And so, I don't know where Gen Alpha will go, but I think when you raise people in this climate, what's going to happen is a Millennial understands history of 1776. But then here's 1619. If their tribe deem
it so, they say, okay, 1619. But they still understand, well, there are history books, but they're
this, that, or otherwise. What happens when you have these kids, gen alpha growing up, where they
only know 1619 from their parents?
Then they're like, these people are conspiracy lunatics who believe in some fringe alternate
history about Benjamin Franklin? Like, he has nothing to do with anything. He's not who founded
this country. And then what happens when those two people meet each other over a conflict?
They can't even have a discussion over the ground they stand on.
Mm-hmm.
When the United States gets into a conflict with another country, we don't necessarily have arguments over, like, their country versus our country and our histories.
It's like resources versus resources or the future of the countries.
Hey, you need to trade agreement with us because we want to use this river or this strait or whatever.
david reaboi
Well, it's one reason why democracies don't fight each other.
tim pool
Right.
david reaboi
Because we feel like we need to have conversations about first principles.
You know, we can't have conflicts about it.
tim pool
What happens when you have the 100% red states, 100% blue states, and you go to Congress and someone says, I hereby think that all guns should be banned.
And the other side says, I think constitutional carry should be universal.
Those are like, so I was reading about gun control.
We talked about it a bit this week.
In the 80s, most states were may-issue concealed carry permits, meaning you probably wouldn't get one.
Today, there's like 20-something-plus states that are constitutional carry.
Texas just signed it.
That means if you're a resident of Texas, you can just walk around with a gun, you can conceal it.
Constitutional right to do so.
That's a much more extreme version than where we were 40 years ago, even for conservatives.
And the Democrats now are nominating a guy, David Chipman, who's like, I want to ban all guns.
david reaboi
That guy's crazy.
tim pool
He's nuts!
He's like any semi-auto with a detachable magazine that takes over .22 caliber.
So like every single gun.
Every rifle, sorry.
david reaboi
Okay, so what people are saying is that he's just a plant.
He's an expendable feint.
In order to get the next guy in.
tim pool
And the next guy who comes in will be like, we're not gonna ban AR-15s, but we will NFA them.
david reaboi
Right.
tim pool
So here's what I'm saying.
The Democrats are at the point where for the past several years they've been straight up ban all guns.
I'm not kidding.
They've actually advocated for consistently banning semi-automatic weapons.
That's like every single handgun.
All of them.
That's it.
That's almost every rifle.
So you'll have bolt actions, lever actions, revolvers.
But it gets rid of like 80-90% of guns.
They just ban them.
And then you have the conservatives who are like, constitutional carry.
And then you have people like me who end up falling on the two-way side because it's freedom and I'm like, everybody should have a government-issued Barrett M82 with a box of a thousand rounds.
I'm kidding, by the way.
But I've jokingly talked about, semi-jokingly, the Department of Gun Services guaranteeing the right to own a firearm.
Because it's in the Constitution.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
If you want universal health care, well, we have a right to bear arms, so we get that first.
I digress.
The point is, the Democrats are as extreme as possible.
The conservatives are getting, I wouldn't say extreme, but in a sense.
I don't want to say extreme because being like, do your thing as the Constitution dictates, I wouldn't call that extreme.
I would call that foundational.
But it is very different.
david reaboi
I think conservatives are going from yelling stop To actually putting their foot down and say, OK, we're going to stop.
That's why the DeSantis bill is important.
Yeah.
Because instead of just, you know, bitching and moaning about big tech censorship, it's something.
tim pool
Where are the rest of the red states?
david reaboi
This is I mean, this is this is a problem.
This is a huge problem.
And and I hope it's an indicator.
I hope it lets people know about the dire nature of the situation.
That it's only Florida.
tim pool
Everybody do this.
Tell your friends, your state, if you're in a red state, you call your politicians and you say, please just do everything DeSantis is doing.
Just there you go.
We're done.
I will say the DeSantis bill is good on social media censorship, but I'm told the Abbott one is better.
So follow the Texas social media.
david reaboi
Because of Ken Paxton, who's great.
tim pool
Yeah, so I guess in Texas it actually treats, this is what I was told by Alan Bakari, that it treats the social networks like common carriers.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So it's like a phone company now.
david reaboi
Yeah.
tim pool
Florida doesn't, which means it'll be very difficult to enforce a lot of what they do, hence they're being sued.
But I'm talking like constitutional carry and social media rights and stuff like that.
Just do that stuff.
david reaboi
Yeah.
tim pool
But you gotta call, you gotta call and tell them.
david reaboi
Right.
The other aspect of this, too, is to make sure in Florida, at least, you've got cities and municipalities that are really excited now.
I know the mayor of Miami is just as excited as can be about bringing more people into Miami.
Well, he's got to do this in a responsible way so as not to bring in, you know, he wants to make Miami the new hub of big tech.
OK, that's great.
You're going to bring a thousand social justice warriors in from, you know, from Silicon Valley?
You're not going to win again if that's what you do.
tim pool
I'm going to start hiring.
I'm hiring people and making them all move to West Virginia.
So it's like we're hiring where we're hiring and we need to hire like a ton of people, but you got to live in the middle of nowhere.
And hey, West Virginia is paying people like 12 grand to move there.
Yeah.
So it's a great opportunity.
Yeah.
And there's a bunch of tax incentives.
So it's like, here you go.
You know, but I get a lot of people don't want to necessarily move to West Virginia.
They want to go to Texas.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
And I'm like, well, you know, look, Texas is cool.
And I get it because West Virginia is not moving fast enough.
david reaboi
I mean, I have friends who work in D.C.
who are considering West Virginia.
It's close.
It's a place where you can commute.
unidentified
Right.
david reaboi
You can absolutely commute.
And if you, you know, maybe you'll go into the office two days a week, three days a week.
It's absolutely doable.
tim pool
Well, that's one of the problems is that parts of West Virginia are turning blue.
They're almost blue because D.C.
people are moving.
It's hilarious.
So the eastern part of West Virginia is now like 47 percent Democrat in one particular county because it's D.C.
workers who moved here for freedom.
It's really funny because like you know like neighborhoods apps and stuff you can really tell who the city people are when they're complaining about like animals and bears and like gunshots going off and you're like you should not be living here but but there was a story that uh AP report I'd mentioned that they're actually losing more people uh the people who are like lefty pro-union anti-gun are like I just can't stand this it's so weird and creepy and wrong and they're leaving And I'm like, opportunity, guys.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
You know, if you want to live in a big city, smells like sour milk and you can't do anything, you go ahead, do it with my blessing.
You want to go in the mountains?
david reaboi
But that also speaks to an awareness on their side.
I mean, you know, we've been talking about this conflict and we think about it a lot and talk about it a lot.
OK, but the other guys, even if they're not talking about it, it enters their consciousness.
tim pool
I think everybody should move to West Virginia.
david reaboi
Everybody in the world?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm talking about people who are paying attention.
david reaboi
All of India moves to West Virginia.
tim pool
I think literally you could fit all of the people in the world into Houston or something.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
If they were stacked shoulder to shoulder.
Some ridiculous thing like that.
Well, no, it's bigger than that, but very little space.
No, no, I'm saying, like, the people who are fleeing Minneapolis, for instance, the people who are fleeing California, don't vote for Democrats if you're going to support the local politics.
But, like, people should start setting up industry in other places.
david reaboi
I've got very little.
For years, I'm telling people to move to red states, you know, Florida, Texas, I mean, wherever.
And I'm just, you hear the same things.
Oh, I can't.
I've got this reason.
I've got that reason.
OK, at some point, it's probably going to get bad enough for you to do it.
tim pool
This is the way I explained it.
Like, there's a house, and there's a small fire in the garage.
And they're like, yeah, I know there's a fire there, but I think I'll be fine.
And you're like, at a certain point, the fire's gonna spread to the kitchen.
And then you're gonna be sitting there, and if it spreads to the door, you're trapped.
ian crossland
Anybody that has a fire in their house and doesn't take immediate emergency evasive action is a moron.
tim pool
And look what's happening with people who live in San Francisco.
Yep.
If you're a conservative and you live in San Francisco, I'm sorry.
ian crossland
I used to.
david reaboi
I lived there for five years.
tim pool
And you left.
david reaboi
And I left, of course I left.
tim pool
Because there's human waste all over the ground.
david reaboi
When I lived there, it was clean.
It was clean.
What years were you there?
I was there, I guess early 2000s.
And yeah, early 2000s and in the late 90s, a little bit, too.
But I didn't want to be surrounded by crazy people.
tim pool
What part of the city were you in?
david reaboi
I was in the Mission.
unidentified
I was in.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
david reaboi
Yeah.
unidentified
I was right there.
david reaboi
I was on mission.
I was on mission.
And then I was in Knob Hill before.
ian crossland
I love that area.
I was over there, too.
david reaboi
Yeah.
And it was look.
I mean, it was great.
It was it was great.
But the city collapsed the same way that New York collapsed, which is that the middle class It disappeared.
And the middle class overlaps with the creative class too.
So when the interesting people leave and they can no longer afford to live there, I mean
first the families go.
And then the people who have no families but don't make a lot of money and do, you know,
play music and, you know, cultural life things.
When they can no longer afford to live in the city, you've got very poor and very rich.
And it's boring, and the city falls apart, and, you know, people are saying, oh, New York is going to come back.
tim pool
Nah, I don't think so.
david reaboi
It's not coming back.
ian crossland
Nope.
david reaboi
It may be clean and safe in the future.
tim pool
Well, the rats, you know.
david reaboi
But it's not gonna be fun.
tim pool
The rats are desperate, and so there's been rat packs running around the city.
So rats used to just eat the refuse.
It was easy.
There was always, always waste.
Once the people disappeared, the rats had to go out and start fighting.
There's like a video of like a rat fighting a pigeon, and they're like both trying to eat each other.
Well look, you've got, you know, how many rats are in New York, do you think?
Millions?
david reaboi
Tens of millions.
tim pool
And humans were constantly throwing garbage on the ground for rats to eat, enough for the rats and the pigeons to sustain a certain level of population.
Humans all disappeared.
Now all of a sudden the rats, no food.
Pigeons, no food.
They start fighting each other.
Sure.
There's like a video of someone getting attacked by a squirrel too.
Like a squirrel was desperate, was like biting people.
Yeah, and you get bit by that, you gotta go get your rabies shots.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Numerous shots.
Who, ah, you wanna live there?
By all means, you do it with my blessing.
I'm gonna go out in the middle of the woods and, you know, I went out today and I grabbed
like 30 or 40 cicadas in like 10 minutes.
Just chuck them into the chicken.
It's quick, yeah.
david reaboi
Make a nice stew.
tim pool
No, I'm not gonna eat bugs off the ground.
Get parasites.
Get the chickens.
Chickens, ate them up.
Gobbled them up.
Hey, it's like I don't gotta buy chicken food this month.
We got all the cicadas.
It's crazy.
It's like, I walk along the edge of the property, collecting like 10 minutes, like 30, 40 cicadas.
What do chickens usually eat?
An hour later, I go back out, same thing.
unidentified
There's more.
tim pool
Cicadas are all back.
Chickens eat, just chicken feed.
So there's something called the egg-laying layer.
It's a protein meal.
They eat bugs and they eat grass.
david reaboi
Okay, so an insect can replace, you know, for a chicken, you know, a cicada is like a treat.
tim pool
Oh, man.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, they go nuts.
They love mealworms, but they're omnivores.
They don't eat anything.
They eat grass.
unidentified
They literally eat grass.
tim pool
It's funny when you can feed them grass through the wall of the coop, and they're just freaking out trying to get it.
unidentified
Yeah, they love it.
tim pool
It's like spaghetti.
They slurp it up.
david reaboi
It's become a thing.
I never thought... I mean, you know, whatever.
I played music, lived in New York, whatever.
I never knew that I would have multiple friends who owned chickens.
That was not a thing that I expected in my life.
tim pool
Dude, city life is whack.
ian crossland
I thought it was like the only way to go for the first half of my life.
tim pool
But communications changed it.
Now people can work from home.
Now we got satellite internet.
So when I was wanting to set up a show, I'm like, we need good internet, so we want to be in a city.
It was very difficult to get internet here.
It took us like six, seven months, I think.
So we're in the middle of nowhere.
We had really bad internet.
Uh, and then in order to get like a business level internet, we had to... It's really expensive.
It's probably like 10 or 20 times the cost of normal internet, or maybe even 30 times the cost of normal internet.
david reaboi
I don't know.
I think cities get a bad rap.
Um, you know, cities get a bad rap these days, especially from, from folks who are, you know, on the right or folks who have kind of recently left cities because, um, Because they used to be really cool.
They used to be a lot different.
And it was prior to the social media age.
It was when, you know, there's something special that happens with a bunch of people, you know, in approximately in the same place.
tim pool
Music.
david reaboi
Yeah.
tim pool
Creativity.
david reaboi
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But it's homogenous.
It made everything boring and the same.
david reaboi
So it used to not be.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
You know, I often ask people, when was the last... So we have Christmas music every year.
When was the last Christmas song written? 1998.
90, 94.
All I want for Christmas is you.
david reaboi
But prior to that, it was what, like 1968?
tim pool
And then 50s.
And we still listen to the same songs.
It's culture homogenized and then stagnated.
So maybe this is good.
Maybe, maybe this like city evacuation or whatever is going to result in.
ian crossland
Yeah, we need new, we need new cities.
We need like tunnels for the traffic so that we can walk around outside without looking around.
Getting hit by cars, brake dust.
tim pool
Elon built them like that.
ian crossland
We need vertical farms so that we can grow our food within the cities, like on street corners, like entire city blocks dedicated to giant indoor farms.
david reaboi
There's no reason why a bunch of cool people can't move to a small town and create what, you know, functionally was everything pretty decent about a city.
tim pool
People gotta move out to West Virginia.
ian crossland
No, that'd be so cool.
tim pool
And then make, make, make, we'll call it cool world.
unidentified
I know solar roads aren't super effective because they get dirty.
tim pool
They don't work at all.
ian crossland
But, man, there must be a way.
There will be a way.
tim pool
No, I think, I remember the solar roads thing, and I think it's just like a child's idea.
It's a dream?
ian crossland
Like a solar parking lot?
tim pool
They're like, if all the roads are solar panels, then we'll have all this power, and it's like, I don't, I don't, I get it, there's roads and they absorb sunlight, but like, What?
Like, you're driving big rigs on these things, they're gonna break.
And they're gonna get covered in dirt and snow, and they're not gonna work, and it's gonna refract lights.
ian crossland
Yeah, they need to self-clean.
tim pool
It doesn't, but they're gonna crack under the pressure.
ian crossland
Maybe, depends on what you make them out of.
tim pool
No, like, just build solar panels.
Why, why, like, why not just put the solar panel on the side of the road?
Why put the car on top of it?
ian crossland
Because it's like pollution.
unidentified
There you go.
ian crossland
Honestly, you're right.
tim pool
It's the road itself is already there, but line line the highway with solar panels. Don't make the cars drive on
ian crossland
honestly You're right. I'd rather no idea what you guys there was
tim pool
like a viral There's a viral video about solar roads where they were
like if we replace all of the roads with solar panels and drive on those instead
we'll power the country and it's like The cars are gonna break them. It's it's
ian crossland
They're made out of like double reinforced glass so they don't really... They break.
That's literally what happened.
tim pool
No, they can't.
What literally happened was the cars broke them.
ian crossland
Theoretically, they could in the future.
They're in prototype stage right now.
But I think the road should be underground anyway.
tim pool
The point is, why not just put the solar panels over the road?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Because it's pollution.
What do you mean it's pollution?
It's like sight pollution.
It pollutes the environment.
You can't see past it.
tim pool
Get out of here, dude.
ian crossland
It blocks the view.
david reaboi
Just do nuclear and you can have a nice beautiful sky.
Here's what you do.
tim pool
All roads are covered.
unidentified
Tunnels.
tim pool
With solar panels on top.
david reaboi
I also want to put the power lines with screens inside.
ian crossland
Yeah.
david reaboi
So that when, you know, when you're driving in the tunnel, you can watch TV.
You can see what, you know, you can do Twitter.
You can do whatever you want.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
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So make sure you check that out because we had a blast the past weekend.
Alright, let's see.
Justanotool says, Tim, please invite Thunderf00t onto TimCast to talk about UFOs.
That sounds fun.
Make 1984 fiction again.
Could there be a sign of optimism?
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James says Harambee was an inside job.
That's a fact.
It was a guy who worked for the zoo who shot him.
ian crossland
You think the kid was a plant?
tim pool
It was a doll.
david reaboi
It was like a crisis actor.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
Remember when the meme about Hillary Clinton?
Harambe tweeted, I have information that we're looking for Hillary Clinton.
Seeking Detroit says, pouring one out for the homie.
Rip Harambe.
I am a gorilla.
ian crossland
Much love.
tim pool
I can't believe we messed this up.
We should have made a Harambe shirt.
ian crossland
I am Harambe.
tim pool
And it should have had the, you know, year.
ian crossland
I think we still can.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I am Harambe.
david reaboi
Harambe is eternal.
ian crossland
Harambe is eternal.
david reaboi
You can come back next week and do the same show again.
tim pool
We have the I am a gorilla shirt meme.
david reaboi
Okay.
tim pool
So it was a perfect opportunity for... I wonder if... I gotta say, there's something weird going on with gorillas.
You know what I mean?
There's the apes stronger together thing.
lydia smith
Apes together strong.
tim pool
Apes together strong.
There's this Harambe.
There's the Ishmael book.
Alex Jones saying I'm a gorilla.
Yeah, we got these gorillas here.
What's this?
It's the...
There's all these gorillas.
Oh, you have Ishmael right there.
Why?
I knew of Ishmael.
ian crossland
This is my life, Tim.
unidentified
Ooh, look at that.
ian crossland
Ishmael, the book.
Shout out to the gorilla, Ishmael.
There's the psychic gorilla.
Have you ever read this book before?
david reaboi
No, never.
ian crossland
This is where that all came from, the Alex Jones meme.
david reaboi
Oh, okay.
ian crossland
I'm a gorilla.
It's a pretty cool book, actually.
david reaboi
I'll bet.
tim pool
All right.
Heyosgeogang says, huge fan, Tim.
I'm part of the Timcast members only, and I have one question.
Is there any way I could get an autograph?
So we actually as part of the new site are building an auction system for a variety of reasons.
So the live events we wanted to start doing in February and then there's some like legal paperwork stuff that's put us on hiatus.
We want to do it soon.
What we're going to do is we're going to do 10 first come first serve for everybody who's giving $25.
Everyone at the membership level of $25 or more will see a post where it's like boom tickets are now available because we're going to do events every Friday night.
So it'll be from like 10 after the show ends to like midnight.
david reaboi
And physical events.
tim pool
Physical events here, yep.
With like DJs and music.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
It'll be fun.
tim pool
And it'll be like 20 to 30 people per week who are allowed to come and hang out.
david reaboi
So it's like a happening.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
david reaboi
Like in the old days, like a happening.
tim pool
A legit party.
david reaboi
Or a hootenanny.
tim pool
A hootenanny, that's right.
unidentified
Yes, yes.
tim pool
And so half the tickets will be first come, first serve.
That means there's literally gonna be people like sitting there like refreshing constantly like, I wanna get a ticket, you know.
unidentified
Right, right.
tim pool
Cricket bread?
But then we're gonna have auction tickets.
So we're trying to balance meritocracy with access.
And it's not easy, because there's only a finite amount.
But in that, we're gonna be able to auction off stuff.
Autographed shirts, posters, et cetera.
And then people, when they come to the live events, we're gonna taste Ian's amazing bread.
ian crossland
Oh, it's gonna be good.
We're actually gonna make some cricket bread, I think.
That's on the horizon.
tim pool
We have a bag of cricket flour.
So, um, there's no gluten in it.
Which means we're gonna need to probably mix it with regular flour.
And then we're gonna make a... Tomorrow we'll film it.
We'll make cricket bread.
ian crossland
I'm excited.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Cricket bread.
I'm sure it's delicious.
I got no problem eating bugs.
Alright, let's see.
Where are we at?
What do we got here?
PNW Paranormal- Paranormalish says, Super serious question, Timcast Crew, does anyone play World of Warcraft Classic?
If so, what do you think the best race-class combo is, and why is it Trollmage?
You're incorrect, good sir.
ian crossland
Night Elf Druid.
tim pool
Night Elf Druid?
I mean, Druids are legit.
I'm always down for Rogue.
ian crossland
Rogue does so much damage.
tim pool
You know why I like Human Rogue is because in Classic you have the perception.
So it's easier to see other rogues.
And I like, I like Alteric Valley.
ian crossland
I always liked Shadowmeld because you can get up and go to the bathroom and just like, you know, stealth for a little while.
tim pool
Yeah, Shadowmeld's great.
ian crossland
To answer your question, yes.
Tim and I were actually playing a couple years ago.
tim pool
You wanna know what's really crazy?
So I started playing World of Warcraft, I think in like 2005, like legit OG.
And so I remember in the early days, this is what, 15 years ago?
Alteric Valley.
When you're playing as either faction, really, I would play as Alliance, and everyone would be like, no, the Horde's better, whatever, man.
So, the Alliance towers in Aldrich Valley, there's, as a rogue, I would just hide behind the wall.
And then I would sneak up, it's basically capture the flag.
The enemy team comes and then they click the flag and then there's a timer, it's like 10 seconds.
If they are untouched for 10 seconds, the flag switches teams.
If they can hold that for a certain amount of time, they destroy the tower.
The rogues are effectively invisible.
It's called stealth.
You can't see them, right?
So 15 years ago, I'm playing, and that was my strategy.
I would hide, and I'm very smart, and I just wait.
And they would be sitting there thinking they've won, and at the very last second, I would switch it back, erasing all their progress, right?
World of Warcraft Classic comes out, and I'm like, I wonder if the same strategy still works on these people, you know, 15 years later.
People never change.
people never change.
It's amazing.
I'm like, you'd think you'd learn if you're playing.
But you know what it is?
A lot of these people probably came back to the game from the same old...
I had played Worlds of Draenor, I played Legion, and I played a little bit of Shadowlands.
And so I'm like, I'm used to the game.
So going back to Classic, I'm familiar with the game and these people keep falling for
the same tricks, man.
ian crossland
It's the same thing about people setting their cups on the ground.
I think they've been doing it for tens of thousands of years.
They just keep kicking over those cups.
You just gotta put your cup up on a table.
Don't set it on the ground.
tim pool
Humans do human stuff, man.
They do.
It's human behavior.
It's a real thing.
Yeah.
Anyway, let's read Super Chats.
Name Changer says, hi, I'm Common Sense, a level four biolab that studies coronaviruses one mile away from the epicenter of the pandemic, and Democrats accept the Chinese said it's not relevant.
I knew this a year ago.
Why now are you accepting it, morons, not Tim and friends?
unidentified
So like I said, I got a question.
tim pool
I'll make the one point real quick.
If you have a biolab and an open wet market, and they're like, where did the virus come from?
I'll be like, this one's got no security.
The simple solution is the no security one.
You add in all the new information and the reports that they never released, changes the narrative.
david reaboi
Sure.
Let me ask, a few weeks ago when we saw the kind of first negative stories about Bill Gates coming out.
Which stories?
In regards to the divorce.
And then you were like, OK, he's you know, he's engaged in this bad behavior.
He's done this and that.
All of a sudden, you know, Bill Gates for the first time was kicked down a peg.
I'm thinking, like, was this part of... Look, they knew that they were going to roll this out.
This didn't roll out immediately just like that.
tim pool
Like the story?
david reaboi
This particular story.
This particular story is, like, what, three days old?
I mean... Like, little brick by brick by brick by brick getting to Fauci.
tim pool
Yeah, and then Fauci comes out and says, well, you know... Right.
david reaboi
So we're talking almost a week now where this story has been softened.
to where you can talk about it.
And this is what's what's going on.
I mean, this this you know, it's a it's a it's an info op.
You know, when you when you stagger the stories like this, knowing that you're going to get this result.
So I'm I'm wondering what the next shoe to drop will be.
Number one.
Number two is I'm wondering, does the let's say demystification of of Bill Gates have anything to do prior to this thing have anything to do with it?
tim pool
It all leads to Xi Jinping transforming into some kind of mutant demon zombie because... Like Voltron?
Yeah, like Voltron?
unidentified
One guy will join his right arm, the other guy will come in his left arm.
tim pool
Zombie Voltron!
Oh no!
david reaboi
COVID-21, what's happening?
He's too big!
ian crossland
I think it's the same thing with where Hillary railroaded Bernie Sanders in 2016. It was so
obvious, but the media like just was like, people were just like, drool coming down. And it was the
david reaboi
same way with this this bio lab thing. I think it was obvious to every sentient. It just seemed like
common sense. Right. And And it was just a matter of time.
I wonder why now it's falling apart.
Maybe it's because this thing is basically over.
I mean, I saw probably I saw a friend of mine tweeting a photo from a lower Manhattan, you know, clothing store.
No mask.
Like, OK, you know what?
This thing is over.
lydia smith
Yep.
david reaboi
You know, if in lower Manhattan, you're walking around with that shopping without a mask.
This thing is over.
So maybe now we're just sort of in the mop up.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
We got green doors.
Please discuss U.S.
farmers being offered money to destroy their crops or be refused farming subsidies if they refuse.
So this is called fallowing a field and it's been around forever.
david reaboi
Old story.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
So there's rumors going around where people are like, the government's telling us we have to shut down our farms.
Otherwise we don't get our subsidies.
So then we're broke.
So people think there's going to be a food shortage.
ian crossland
Why are they doing it exactly?
They're being paid to not grow crops?
tim pool
Yeah, I interviewed a bunch of farmers about this.
I can't remember all the details, though.
It was years ago.
So they'll rotate, where the government will say, we'll pay you whatever you would have made to not grow crops.
ian crossland
Is that just to limit the supply?
To keep the cost up or something?
david reaboi
I think basically that's the main idea.
I don't know the details either.
tim pool
Rampton says Michael Knoll's book on pre-order or whatever.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, Michael Knoll's book Speechless is for pre-order.
tim pool
No, no, no, but you see it, they're just getting lower and lower effort.
unidentified
Come on, man.
lydia smith
I demand high quality.
tim pool
All right.
Jay Neighbour says, hello, Timcast has now been heard throughout the continental United States.
Unfortunately, it is all by one fat and now apparently old truck driver from Dubuque.
Old.
Truth hurts, Tim.
Thanks.
Thought you would like to know.
We actually had someone, I mentioned that, like the people who watch, listen, it's like a regular guy, it's like a truck driver, a fat truck driver driving through Dubuque or something, or from Dubuque.
And then some guy was like, hey, that's me.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's crazy.
lydia smith
I love our reach.
tim pool
The Throne says, you don't need to regulate Big Tech, just enforce the existing rules.
The private ownership argument doesn't hold up when you look at the decision of Alabama v. Marsh from the U.S.
Supreme Court.
All right, well, there you go.
The One Free Man says, COVID, rockets falling from the sky, the Uyghurs.
China has proven to be incompetent and irresponsible.
The lies we tell incur a debt to the truth.
The debt will always come due.
COVID was China's Chernobyl.
Yikes.
Yeah, the rocket falling from the sky.
Remember that?
They're like, it might land on New York!
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't want to live in there.
I mean... Someone you may know says, Tim, developers create public spaces because many municipalities have set a maximum floor space a building can have.
However, you can exceed that maximum by how much public space you create.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yes, tax incentives also apply.
david reaboi
There you go.
Good to know.
unidentified
That's right.
david reaboi
Good to know.
So that, I mean, that concept though, or our understanding of the rules around that comes from the company town.
You know, in the Wild West and then, you know, and elsewhere in the country when you've got a town... The corporation would make... The corporation basically owns a town.
Do you have any rights there?
Is the company, um, you know, is... Can the company call all the shots in a place?
tim pool
Those still exist, like at the frack fields in, I think, North Dakota.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
They, like, build a city for the employees.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
And in Alaska too.
I had a friend who worked in Alaska and there's like a town that exists just for one company.
And like there's one big communist looking like block house.
Because they're not going to build a bunch of houses.
They need to house their employees.
And there's like one store.
It's kind of cool.
Antarctica sounds pretty fun.
There's like 10 people there or something in the winter.
lydia smith
Sounds good.
tim pool
Jimmy Russell says, Tim, I think the libertarian position on private company speech relies on enforcing 230.
The moment someone is censored, the company should lose its 230 protection, becoming legally liable for all speech on the service.
But that's regulation.
Libertarians are like, nah.
ian crossland
Also, you've got to define censorship because if I look at your post and allow it, I'm still censoring you.
I'm acting as the censor saying yes or no.
You don't have to shut it down in order for it to be censorship.
You can also allow it.
tim pool
Doug Phelps says, Tim, you are generalizing 800,000 cops.
There are bad cops and bad leadership.
Stop painting cops as bad, or all we will have are bad cops.
Right, and as I've pointed out, I defended the police all throughout the last year until the people voted in the system and the good cops quit, or I should say many of the good cops quit, and then the ones who remained are willing to lick the feet of Bill de Blasio and Whitmer and other corrupt politicians, so I'm not going to call them good cops.
They have a choice to leave.
david reaboi
You know what needs to happen?
Ron DeSantis and, you know, maybe Greg Abbott, some other guys,
should get together and say, OK, we will go and we will buy out your contracts if you're
a cop, if you're a good cop, in a blue state or a blue city.
tim pool
Kristi Noem's doing this.
david reaboi
And bring them in.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
South Dakota is recruiting.
I think they're doing this on purpose.
lydia smith
I think that's them, yeah.
tim pool
Recruiting the cops who are quitting to come to South Dakota where they're not.
ian crossland
Oh, what a good idea.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
That's a great idea.
tim pool
I thought you were going to say, like, Rhonda Sanders and Abbott should combine their power rings together and then, you know, wonder governor's powers activate.
ian crossland
It would be the sequel, right?
unidentified
It would be.
david reaboi
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it would.
tim pool
So, Xi Jinping becomes communist Voltron and then Abbott and Ken Pax, I don't know, Abbott and Sanders combine their rings together.
ian crossland
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And then activate their powers?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Wonder Governor's powers activates.
david reaboi
We could make a contiguous, you know, landmass between the two.
And we'd get New Orleans.
tim pool
One giant...
Jacob Dahlbenspeck says, wait, if we're in the prequels, does that mean that Joe Biden is Jar Jar?
Only if Jar Jar is secretly a Sith Lord.
ian crossland
Oh, I've heard the conspiracy theory.
Jar Jar was a Sith.
He was the real villain of the movie.
david reaboi
I crack a Star Wars joke and then everything just goes right over my head.
tim pool
Everybody knows that Star Wars is just anti-Empire propaganda.
unidentified
True.
ian crossland
That's true.
tim pool
Like they call, like these leftists call the U.S.
the empire and the imperialists.
Like the empire never, I bet the empire didn't even really call itself the empire.
ian crossland
Oh, good point.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
It was probably called like United States of America.
david reaboi
We don't even, do we even know the name of it?
tim pool
It's the empire.
david reaboi
No, no, no, but what they called it themselves.
tim pool
The Empire.
Like, I'm just kidding.
Like, Vader is like, literally, MY NEW EMPIRE.
ian crossland
It was the Republic and then it became the Empire.
It's basically Rome.
It's supposed to be Rome in the movie, I think.
tim pool
I'd like to see a series that is, like, not propaganda against the, uh...
The elites.
ian crossland
Yeah.
We need to take care of those people.
tim pool
There's some really interesting fan writings about the Jedi being ineffective, authoritarian, and religious zealots.
Imposing their will with force.
Like literally the force against people who disagree with them.
Intervening in political affairs.
david reaboi
Oh yeah, a lot of people have written this.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so you think about the first movie with the Trade Federation and Naboo.
Why were two knights with laser swords sent in For a negotiation between a trade dispute.
So it's like that's that's and so that's actually a part of the movie.
I recently watched the first one again.
And when the Trade Federation is like their Jedi were sent here like what why?
Yeah, what seriously imagine if someone sent like two high-ranking like you know like SEAL Team 6 were sent in to negotiate a trade dispute with some countries.
They'd be like, uh, what do you what is really weird?
Yeah, the Jedi were nuts man.
They're religious zealots.
I wish we should make that short film.
Yeah, so it'd be like it'd be like yeah Vader is a disabled veteran war hero
ian crossland
so it'd be like if the US government was negotiating a trade contract with Google and then like
tim pool
Mi6 showed up a couple of like no no no it would be like if there was a port blockade in in Greece because a
like Chinese vessel was trying to negotiate a trade deal so the US
sends in SEAL Team 6 to negotiate peace.
They'd be like, nah.
That's what it was.
That's what happened.
And then that actually triggered the conflict.
They're like, you know, then Sidious is like, kill them.
They should never have been involved.
You know, so they should have been involved, man.
Chris Pavotto says, Since Tim keeps saying he'll never run for an official office position, why not use this platform and reach to Reform Section 230?
There are several guests and supports to give input.
Then submit the papers to Congress.
I mean, we do talk about it a lot.
We do invite people on to talk about it.
david reaboi
Didn't we just say Congress and the federal government is a dead end?
tim pool
Local politics.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, you gotta go local.
One by one, the states will start adopting the law.
Then eventually, it'll be a huge conflict.
It'll go to the Supreme Court, and then you'll get your answer.
Not that I trust the Supreme Court, to be honest.
ian crossland
Do you see that video of Clarence Thomas laughing?
david reaboi
Oh, the best laugh.
ian crossland
Yeah.
What a laugh.
unidentified
Classic.
tim pool
I like the meme where it's like, you know the meme where the woman says, men only want one thing is disgusting?
david reaboi
Yeah.
tim pool
And then someone put the image of, it's the Supreme Court, but everyone is Clarence Thomas.
ian crossland
Yes.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
Yeah.
Ben D says, I agree with David.
We are in the prequel.
We just passed when Natalie Portman says, this is how liberty dies, to thunderous applause.
People are cheering for the system burning.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yes.
That's sad.
Well, it was a good run, I guess.
No, I think it was like 1900s when things got real bad.
ian crossland
You know, the good thing is states, United States, the state's rights and the power of the state, because no federal prohibition has ever really worked that I can tell.
They tried to prohibit alcohol.
They tried to prohibit weed.
If they try to prohibit guns, the states are just going to say F you and do what they want anyway.
I like that.
david reaboi
Well, no, I mean, because traditionally, the states, I mean, would that if they did?
I mean, traditionally, the states end up buckling because they're all taking money from the federal government in some way.
You know, I mean, the states don't want to be responsible for, you know, just a lot of the stuff that the federal government pays for.
unidentified
Yeah.
david reaboi
And this is how and this is how they you know, this is how they get this other federal government.
So the left gets everything they want in the states.
ian crossland
Federal funny money.
david reaboi
Yeah.
tim pool
What's happening now is, before the pandemic, the blue states were in serious trouble.
Now they're all getting bailed out because of COVID, and now they have a surplus.
All right, Aaron Molinauer says, enjoy your show and your guests rock.
Aaron Molinauer for president 2024, a common man for uncommon times.
Together we will win back America.
For Ian and America, I will order an audit of the Fed.
I will mandate constitutional studies in all public schools.
unidentified
I like that.
ian crossland
It's a good platform.
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
Audit the Fed.
tim pool
Jerome Morrow says, Ian's been too calm tonight.
What do you think about getting rid of the Federal Reserve and then replacing gold with graphene as the global reserve medium?
ian crossland
Interesting concept.
Wow.
Yeah.
tim pool
Graphene's scarce.
ian crossland
And it could be that we bypass the money system completely and just have a resource-based economy that's based on electricity and resource.
What does that mean?
tim pool
Graphene.
What's a resource-based economy?
ian crossland
Where you use, you know, I mean, you would need a total retrofit of the economy.
You'd need fusion power to electronic food.
tim pool
What is a resource-based economy?
ian crossland
Like, you use electricity as your main resource to atomically print water and food.
tim pool
But what do you mean?
I don't understand.
ian crossland
Locally.
tim pool
But we can do that.
ian crossland
Can?
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
So what's our economy based off of then?
ian crossland
Discurrent economy?
Yeah.
Fiat?
tim pool
So, wait.
So, I don't understand what you're saying.
ian crossland
Fiat means faith.
It's faith-based economy.
You print as much money as you want and pass it around in that economy.
tim pool
So you're saying people would generate electricity and then what, trade batteries?
ian crossland
No, you would trade electricity.
Yeah, yeah, you could charge each other's batteries and stuff like that.
tim pool
So how would you quantify the electricity?
ian crossland
I guess you could measure it.
tim pool
So then you'd trade what, like amp hours?
ian crossland
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
So you'd call like what, an amp?
So you'd have a bank account with, like, 10 amps in it?
ian crossland
Yeah, you'd have a battery.
You'd have a battery.
There would be no more need for banks.
You'd just have batteries that are charged or discharged.
tim pool
So you could make your own energy?
ian crossland
I think so.
tim pool
You could, like, ride a bike and then generate power?
ian crossland
Right, right.
That leaves individual power, because you don't want the state to, like, be charging everyone's batteries for them.
You want the individual to be able to power the neighborhood.
david reaboi
That's a very private thing.
tim pool
No, that's kind of cool, though.
david reaboi
You don't come behind it.
tim pool
Imagine if it was, like, based on energy.
You could literally ride a bike for an hour, charge a battery, then go to the store and click it in, and then transfer your energy to the grid, and then get an apple for it.
ian crossland
You'd be like, I love that guy!
He rides his bike eight hours a day and powers my house.
Everyone loves that guy because he does all the work.
tim pool
Nobody would say that.
ian crossland
But you could.
tim pool
You'd walk up and you go to your friend's house and be like, you got some sugar I can borrow here?
And you click your battery in and send up some of your power or whatever.
Or it would probably be an app and it would transfer from your storage in your house to the grid.
ian crossland
You could go to someone's house, use your battery to power their atomic printer to get food at their house.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Imagine if you could get like a solar panel on your house, which generates so much power, it put money back in the grid and they gave you money instead.
That's literally how it works.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't like money.
tim pool
Well, money is just a number for a trade medium.
ian crossland
I don't like relying on money, I guess I should say.
david reaboi
Can you imagine the depravity?
The societal depravity that would accompany all of these different things, you know, by the time society got to, you know, by the time civilization got to the point where we're doing this and we're, you know, you know, trading energy, you know, on on on thumb drives as you know, for food, you know, I mean, just imagine the depravity.
Imagine the state of humanity.
I constantly think about how we can transition without a fallout, without like losing a quarter of the population to poverty or to Well, look, you know, the way the woke stuff is going, all of the high tech stuff is not going to be, you know, possible.
It's just not going to be possible.
You know, I mean, I think I think the plan needs to be, hey, let's force Harvard to hire, you know, only, you know, only people of color.
tim pool
Force them to do it.
david reaboi
Force them to do it.
It's racial justice.
tim pool
The Fed is getting woke and I'm here for it.
david reaboi
Yeah.
tim pool
Get woke, go broke.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
Enjoy Coca-Cola Light says, Star Wars was written by the victors of wars.
Of course Vader is depicted as some evil madman.
Consider the story told by the Empire, coming out as the victors.
That's right.
That's absolutely right.
ian crossland
His armor looked way cooler than that all black thing.
tim pool
We should write it.
We should make it.
ian crossland
Like the real events?
tim pool
Yeah, the real history of Star Wars.
ian crossland
Vader's like trying to convince people.
tim pool
And Vader won't be like this big looming demonic figure.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's like 5'9".
tim pool
Yeah, he's like 5'9".
And he's got some cyber components.
ian crossland
Like six kids.
He's a really good father.
tim pool
And he's not going...
No, no, no.
He has his two kids.
He has Luke and they're kidnapped by religious extremists.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, he's a war hero.
ian crossland
His aunt and uncle were like religious extremists.
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
They weren't really his aunt and uncle.
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
He escaped the religious extremism and went and, you know, and got to learn and then realized they were corrupt, you know, religious extremists.
And he has like, he struggles to breathe, you know, he's got like a breathing machine.
People like him and he's really nice.
ian crossland
Your mother did this to me.
tim pool
Yeah. Yeah. See, it's all propaganda. We should make it. We'll make like a 10 minute short film.
david reaboi
It could be a good 10 minute short film.
tim pool
It wouldn't be called The Empire. It would be called like the Galactic Federation.
And it would be like people from a desert planet taking a cargo ship and blowing up a military
base. And you'd see like the families crying.
And then you'd have the Emperor who was disfigured from an assassination attempt when the Jedi tried to kill him.
And he's like, we lost 1,372,000 lives that day when religious extremists blew up a military base.
ian crossland
And they were building hospitals and things.
tim pool
Yep.
That's right.
Yeah, we should totally do it.
All right, let's see.
We'll do a couple more.
Clifton Stocks says, West Virginia pays and work for Tim Pool.
What positions are available?
We're doing commissions for mini-docs, which is contract work.
We're looking for journalists, and we've gotten a lot of submissions, and, you know, with all due respect, the ones we've been through, it's just, like, we need actual journalists with experience, and it's not particularly easy.
It's, you know, we're trying to quality control and get the best of the best, so it's very difficult.
We need a AV tech full-time for setting up new shows.
We're gonna be setting up like a gaming lab and the Paranormal Show and stuff like that.
We need camera operators full-time.
And, uh, yeah.
Along with those skill requirements, if you are interested in sending a resume or something, make sure you send actual samples of work.
I don't really care all that much about resumes.
And if you, you know, skate, scoot, bike, Blade, whatever, pogo stick, those are all big advantages.
And we're also, if someone has a drone pilot's license, camera operator with a drone pilot license, absolutely, we are looking for that too.
And they're all on location jobs in the Maryland, West Virginia area.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Pioneer Smokehouse says, Ian, money is just a means of bridging the gaps between wants and needs.
ian crossland
It's true, until you can print as much of it as you want, and then it becomes a weapon.
As well.
tim pool
Blip Squeaks says, I'm disappointed you didn't seize the opportunity to leave Ian's picture for the whole night.
It was hysterical when you switched.
ian crossland
Can we show that one more time?
Is that still up?
unidentified
Let me see.
lydia smith
Oh, hold on.
Sorry.
Let me move over to that.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
It's still there.
ian crossland
Thank you, Lydia.
tim pool
That's so weird.
unidentified
There's Ian.
lydia smith
He looks very noble.
ian crossland
Hi, everyone.
tim pool
That's a crazy image.
ian crossland
I haven't seen it yet.
lydia smith
So weird.
I'll show it to you after.
It's hilarious.
tim pool
How does that happen?
lydia smith
It's so funny.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
It's Friday night.
It's party time.
If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the show.
And if you are a true fan of TimCast IRL and the conversations we have, sharing, posting the episodes every night, just put them on your Facebook, your Twitter, wherever you can.
And maybe your shadow band or whatever, but sharing is the most powerful thing we can do.
So it really, really helps us out and makes sure that we can hire more people and do more work.
And hopefully we'll permeate the fake news ecosystem and get more people to realize what's happening.
You can follow us on Facebook.
Facebook.com slash TimCastIRL.
Share our videos.
Just click the little share button.
It's super easy.
And on Instagram at Instagram.com slash TimCastIRL.
And you can follow me at TimCast basically everywhere.
Dave, you want to shout out any posts or websites?
david reaboi
Sure.
Go to my website.
All the stuff is there.
D-A-V-E-R-E-A-B-O-I.com.
Follow me on Twitter, DaveRaboi.
And right on.
Thank you.
ian crossland
It's great to get your insight, man.
That was really fun.
Thanks.
david reaboi
Thank you.
It was a pleasure.
ian crossland
You guys can always follow me at IanCrossland.net and at Ian Crossland on social media and check out some of my music on Amazon Music.
I think it's on Spotify, iTunes and the like.
And let me know what you think.
tim pool
I think Will of the People will finally be on iTunes and Spotify.
ian crossland
Excellent.
That's awesome.
tim pool
Maybe in like a week.
lydia smith
And then I am in the corner pushing buttons as always.
You guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter.
I am at Sour Patch Lids and I am trying to outpace Sour Patch Kids for followers.
It's a challenge.
I'm hoping to get there soon.
tim pool
Make sure you check out youtube.com slash castcastle because we're going to have a vlog up tomorrow where we're setting up the new 3D printers.
Today, Andreas was working on, was it PETG?
Is that what it's called?
Polyethylene tetra glycol?
lydia smith
I think.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
Something like that.
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
And it's like a, it's printing amazingly.
ian crossland
That's awesome.
tim pool
I'm impressed.
The ABS was warping.
PLA is way too weak.
We tried carbon fiber, but the extruder is too low of temperature.
Cause you know, like 290.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
And we were working at like 250, but it was working until the plate was too cold and it popped off.
So we're very disappointed.
unidentified
It looks cool.
tim pool
We got a CNC machine too.
Excellent.
Yes.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
So make sure you check out youtube.com slash cast castle tomorrow at 9am.
And we'll see you all then.
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