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Timcast IRL - Biden Admin To Roll Out Vaccine Passport, GOP Says NO WAY w/Cassandra Fairbanks
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tim pool
you Canada is suspending the rollout of one of the vaccines. I
don't know which one over fears about blood clots.
So we're going to get into the specifics on that story.
I want to be very careful with this because, you know, we want to make sure we're getting this data, these stories, accurate.
But in the bigger picture, the reason this is important is that the Biden administration is reportedly planning a rollout of a national COVID vaccine passport, or just a general vaccine passport, I guess, because I'm willing to bet this app is going to include all of the vaccinations you've gotten, not just COVID.
We'll see.
In New York, they already have this, and a lot of people are angry, rightly so, because even CNN compared it to Nazis demanding you show your papers.
unidentified
No joke.
tim pool
Fareed Zakaria actually showed a scene where a guy was like, give me your papers, and then he is like, I don't have them, and then the cops are coming or whatever.
That's pretty intense when even CNN is bringing up that argument, but they had this ethical dilemma about whether or not vaccine passports are legit.
And so we're going to get into all of the deep philosophical and ethical questions around this.
And I think it's fair to say when you've got countries that are issuing these warnings, when people with food allergies aren't supposed to get it, when pregnant women aren't supposed to get it, How are you going to roll out mandatory vaccines when you're also telling people why they shouldn't get it or certain countries are putting in restrictions?
That seems absolutely just nuts to me.
But we'll get into all this.
We've got some other stories.
There's a school, apparently it's in Virginia, right?
Where apparently these teachers are getting doxxed because they oppose critical race theory.
And it's people in the school who are It's a crazy story.
I mean, the level of indoctrination from critical race theory is just getting nuts.
Even Sesame Street now is coming outright against Martin Luther King Jr.' 's vision, which is kind of shocking to me.
So we'll get into it.
Joining us today, of course, is Cassandra Fairbanks.
unidentified
Yay.
cassandra fairbanks
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Quick intro.
Just maybe, you know, a couple seconds.
cassandra fairbanks
I write for Gateway Pundit.
Irritate people on Twitter constantly.
I don't know.
That's about it.
tim pool
There you go.
We got Ian Chillin.
ian crossland
What's up, everybody?
Ian Crossland over here.
Good to see you.
Good to see you, Sandra.
lydia smith
And then me in the corner pushing buttons.
We're gonna have a great night tonight.
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And I also want to give a quick mention for people who are curious about the specifics on what happened with Friday's show and being canceled.
And there's no big conspiracy.
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Quite literally, there was some miscommunication.
We had Jeremy from The Quartering.
Love him, he's an awesome dude.
We were gonna have him on for two nights in a row, but I guess at some point someone gave him the wrong time to show up, and because we had already done a show with him, we kind of, like, exhaust a lot of what we want to talk about and a lot of ideas.
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It's totally our fault.
That's all I can really say about it.
But let's jump into the first story about Fox—oh, I'm sorry.
The Biden ministration working with, it's from Fox Business, the Biden ministration working with industry to develop COVID-19 passports as vaccinations progress.
Passports offer a glimpse of a future that many are longing for after months of COVID-19 restrictions.
I really love that Fox is saying that people are longing for vaccine passports.
Aren't you guys?
Don't you want to be able to have an app where they can know everything about you and you scan it if you want to go shopping?
cassandra fairbanks
I'm really bummed that it's an app and not paper.
Makes things a lot more difficult.
unidentified
Show me your papers.
tim pool
No, they're saying it will also be paper.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I think COVID passports.
Okay, hold on.
ian crossland
This is like the social credit score in China.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Well, so they implemented a similar system.
I'll just break it down very simply for those that don't know what it is.
You will have an app on your phone, you will put in all your private information, and then when you get vaccinated, it will have that information.
If you go to the store, or you go to a theater, or you go to an airline, they'll have an app, but you must scan it to prove you've gotten your vaccinations.
I think COVID is just the beginning.
How long until they're like, oh, if you want to go to the store, have you gotten, you know, your hep shot or something like that, or your tetanus shot?
Have you gotten your flu shot?
Well, you got to have that.
And with the ease of an app like this, the vaccine passport they're calling it, then, you know, Walmart or whoever else can be like, you know what?
Everybody should get flu shots.
End of story.
So you better carry around your papers, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't have a phone.
I don't carry paperwork around with me.
Get off my back.
cassandra fairbanks
I'm just wondering how long it's going to take for a black market for them to spring up on it.
You know, there's fake IDs.
tim pool
Yeah, I feel like people are going to have hacked apps.
People are just going to jailbreak their phones and make their own apps.
ian crossland
Medical tracking is terrifying.
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, if they make it so you can't do anything without it, people are going to find a way to get it, even if they don't actually want to get the vaccine or if they can't.
tim pool
Think about how crazy that's gonna be, though.
Like, you can't go to Walmart unless you have an app you can scan on the way in.
So what about somebody who doesn't own a phone, right?
Let's say you're really, really poor.
You can't even get any kind of smartphone.
Even though there's some pretty cheap ones, you can't get it.
And then, you gotta go to a place to issue a vaccine passport from a certain place on a card?
They say that voter ID is racist because poor people and minorities struggle to go to the DMV, and I'm like, dude, the DMV's been around for literally ever.
Everybody can ask someone, yo, where's the DMV at?
If you went outside right now and walked up to a random person and said, hey, where can I get a vaccine?
They're gonna be like, I don't know.
So you think poor people and these people you believe are underprivileged are going to have an easy time figuring out how to navigate the system?
Nah, they're creating some kind of like caste system.
ian crossland
This is like when polio, the vaccine came, people wanted that vaccine because polio is crippling people, it's terrifying, it's deadly, it's devastating.
So people wanted it.
You didn't have to force them to get it and track to make sure they got it.
Like, people were just getting it because they needed it.
They wanted it.
This vaccine that's in is a 99.97% recovery rate.
This COVID thing.
I don't think a vaccine is necessary, especially ones that are accessing blood clots.
tim pool
For older people.
ian crossland
Maybe for older people.
Yeah, maybe.
But it's still so early in the process that they rushed it out in like six months this vaccine's been out.
tim pool
I'm not super opposed to the rushing process.
I'm concerned about the non-approval process.
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
That as well, yeah.
tim pool
So the FDA hasn't approved this yet.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah, both of those things concern me.
I think that the rush is scary.
I mean, we don't know what the lasting effects of any of this stuff will be.
We don't even know what the lasting effects of COVID will be.
So just all of it, the rush, the lack of, you know, testing and approval, I just, it freaks me out.
And I'm very pro-vaccines.
I'm not like anti-vax at all.
I just think that people are rushing into this stuff.
tim pool
Yes, but I was reading about the approval process from the FDA.
Did you know it's something like six months to get legitimate, hard FDA approval?
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's probably going to be approved soon.
So that's why a lot of people are like, well, it's an emergency use authorization.
I think that matters because now you've got Canada talking about blood clots or whatever.
It definitely matters.
But I'd like to see FDA approval, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't think that's unreasonable for me to be like, yo, you know, I don't think it's fair.
New York's already rolling out the passports.
Here's the bigger problem.
It's not the government doing it.
Biden's got a plan.
Biden's working with industry, but they can't force anybody to do anything.
What's going to happen is you're not going to be able to board a plane.
You're not going to be able to buy a ticket from Ticketmaster or whatever.
They're going to, it's going to be social enforcement in the private sector.
That's going to make all this happen.
Like masks, for instance, what happened in Texas when they were like, yo, we're done with this.
There was like some, some chain of grocery stores, something that said, nope, you still got to do it.
I think Walmart was like, nope, you still got to wear masks.
cassandra fairbanks
Their infection rates are going way down right now.
lydia smith
Yep.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
So everything is just crazy.
It's like, I don't know.
I live in the woods up on a mountain.
I interact with like four people a week.
Like I, I'm just like, I don't really feel like I need anything like this.
Like we're fine.
We're up in the mountain.
You guys can do your things in the city.
tim pool
But yeah.
So what about in cities though?
What if they said vaccine passports only in the city and not in the mountains?
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, I don't care.
I don't want to go to cities.
I hate going to cities.
So I'll stay up on the mountain.
You guys can get your papers down there.
unidentified
Do you still live in big cities?
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah, I hate them.
tim pool
What happened?
cassandra fairbanks
So I haven't been back to a city since I moved to Westridge, or I hadn't until last week because I had to take my cat to an emergency vet and it was a whole thing.
But he had to go get surgery in Richmond and I went there and I was like, wow, this is like the walking dead or something.
tim pool
Like apocalyptic.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
It was just everybody's walking around masks.
They're all like, I don't know.
It's just really weird because I hadn't for the past almost a year.
I've been up, you know, in the mountain, you know, where we're where I am pretty isolated.
Like we go to the country store.
Nobody wears a mask.
tim pool
Surrounded by a bunch of right wing nut jobs.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
I love my right-wing nutjob community.
But yeah, everything's normal.
You have to wear a mask if you go to the big chain stores, if you go to Walmart or something.
But if you go to the local nursery or the country store, you're not going to see people wearing masks.
And they're going to get looked at funny if they do.
tim pool
They tell people to take them off.
unidentified
They're like, you should take that mask off.
tim pool
And I'm like, well, it's your business.
You know what I mean?
Like that's, that's interesting thing about the whole mask thing.
Like what if a business tells you you can't wear masks and people are like, well, it's like my, my view is the private business, man.
If, if, if it's, that's the challenge with a lot of this passport stuff is that it's social enforcement.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
If every business is saying we all do this, then what do you do?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I guess you just get your passport, right?
ian crossland
That's what makes me think this bad information is freaky.
Like flu numbers are down.
COVID numbers are up.
Is that right?
Like there were the flu numbers were way down, but those COVID numbers were way up.
And they were like, well, equal amounts of deaths is normal, but this time it's no flu deaths.
It's all COVID deaths.
tim pool
Yeah, but that could be spurious correlation.
Maybe.
ian crossland
Could be.
That's the thing.
They don't know, but they want to force a vaccine.
It's crazy.
tim pool
But I'll say this.
So one of the things that they've been saying for a long time is that locking people inside their homes is a mistake because COVID transmits easier indoors.
So it could be that putting people in their house makes flu go down, but then spreads COVID easier.
So it was like the dumbest thing they could have done, but not, you know, I, yeah, I think that's like a simple solution, I suppose.
But when you have in Europe, they were like, if you're pregnant, don't get it.
If you have food allergies, don't get it.
And I'm like, okay, I won't.
You know what I mean?
I'll chill.
I'm not in a rush.
I think something like 50% of people said they're willing to just wait and take it easy.
That's what's really interesting when Fox runs a story and they're like, everyone's longing for this, you know, reopening.
I'm like, most people said they're willing to wait on the vaccine because their concerns about, you know, potential long-term effects that haven't been studied properly.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah, I might be in like a weird right-wing bubble because like my community are all, you know, normal sane people who are not freaking out about anything.
But I'm perfectly happy not getting a passport, staying on my mountain, my garden.
Everything gets delivered to my house.
I don't even go grocery shopping.
So it's like, okay, you guys enjoy your passports.
tim pool
Loving in the mountains.
So here's the crazy thing though.
Virginia is red.
I mean, I'm sorry.
West Virginia is red and Virginia is blue.
Like, like even right where West Virginia and Virginia kind of meet.
It's crazy how I've, I've got, I've gone out there and talk to people and they're liberals.
cassandra fairbanks
Well, no.
The border of West Virginia and Virginia, they're very red.
Like, you drive that area, it's all farmland, and you're going to see, like, Trump signs everywhere.
And I feel really bad for them, actually, because it's like they don't get a vote.
West Virginia actually, I think it was about a year ago, offered to take those counties into West Virginia.
Because it sucks for them.
Like, they're all pro-gun.
They're, you know, Right-wing and they're being represented by the people who work in DC and live in the cities that are close to DC.
tim pool
And you know why they don't want to live in D.C.?
cassandra fairbanks
Because it's horrible?
tim pool
Because they're racist.
Yeah, I absolutely think it's because most of these well-to-do progressive liberal types are super racist.
They don't want to live in the cities that they've destroyed with their policies.
D.C.
has a very, very high percentage of black residents.
It's no surprise that the people who work in D.C.
and run D.C.
Decide to move out of DC.
This is what happens.
And now Virginia's turning blue across the board, and then they're not going to want to live there in a year or two, and they're going to move to Maryland, or they're going to move south and go to North Carolina or something, and slowly keep moving away from the things they keep voting for.
One of the funny things about West Virginia is I see these stories where I was talking to a guy at a gun shop.
And he was like, you can tell who the liberals are, like when they're moving in, because they complain about mountain things that no one, like no conservative cares about.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
So like, you know, someone said, my neighbor left their trash out and I, why are they doing this?
You know, what do I got to do to make them pick their trash and everyone's like, who cares?
cassandra fairbanks
My local community Facebook group is always like joking about that.
Whenever somebody new moves in, they'll be like, are you guys allowed to be shooting guns as close to people's houses?
And they're like, welcome to the mountain.
Get ready for the UTVs and ATVs too.
tim pool
People, you'll see some, you know, people driving around in rascals with a couple of ARs.
American flag.
ian crossland
Shout out to the United States.
Cause I used to live in, first I was in the suburbs, grew up, then I went to the cities and lived that part of my life.
And now in the mountains, it's like, Another world.
It's another world.
It's like another country.
tim pool
We got this race car.
It's like super nice race car.
And we've got these two foot quarter pipes in the parking lot.
And we just bought it.
And we're kind of like, we can do whatever we want.
So we just this thing can go 60 miles an hour.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Launched the thing like 25 feet in the air, just flipping around and smashes the ground is bouncing and we're like, probably gonna break it.
ian crossland
Just laughing.
tim pool
But you can do that out here.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
So that's the crazy thing too, like all the whole time with COVID.
I've been saying that since, you know, when COVID started, we were in the Philadelphia area.
That was actually really scary.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
You're surrounded by all these people.
And then you get told, like Donald Trump appears on TV and he's like, I'm shutting down travel to Europe and all this stuff.
And we were like, damn, this is serious.
And we were worried too, because like the supply shortage, the toilet paper was gone.
Like our local Walmart toilet paper, all gone.
ian crossland
The neighbor bounced, like, the one neighbor.
Yeah, the neighbor was gone for like two months.
tim pool
And then when the storm blew, like, the fence off, it was just down.
ian crossland
They just abandoned their house for like two months.
tim pool
Yup, they took off.
I think it was longer than that.
ian crossland
Probably.
tim pool
It's freaky.
ian crossland
It was like all summer.
tim pool
So then we ended up moving out to the middle of nowhere.
It's like paradise.
People just go about their business like normal.
You go down to, like, the local shop.
Nobody hassles you.
cassandra fairbanks
I just want to say, though, we also have Bigfoot.
People play their banjos really loud all night.
There's a lot of shooting, like, things in their front yards.
Confederate flags everywhere.
Leftists, don't move.
Don't move to West Virginia.
You will hate it.
It's awful.
And that is all.
Just had to throw that in there.
tim pool
I tweeted, I don't know if you saw the story, like Lindsey Graham said he has an AR-15.
You see that?
He's like doing an interview and he's like, I got an AR-15 and you know, I forgot what he said, if it all goes bad or whatever, this is the last place the gangs will go because I can defend myself.
And so I tweeted, Lindsay has an AR-15?
Pathetic.
We should ban AR-15s outright, completely.
And then the government should issue everyone a Barrett M82, 50 BMG semi-automatic anti-material rifle.
Then you'll truly... I'm kidding, by the way.
But you know, that's the thing about West Virginia, is that Well, so I've been buying a lot of bullets because, you know, first of all, they're hard to get.
And then people were saying, you know, you want to have like a thousand rounds per gun is like a good amount to have on store.
And people got to realize this too.
I'm sure to people who don't know anything about guns, a thousand rounds sounds like a lot.
Cause it did to me when I was first buying guns, you go to the range one time and you're like, Oh, I get it now.
ian crossland
You go through like 120 really quick or something.
tim pool
Real quick.
I mean, if you're with your friends and you're practicing, you're doing training, you're going to go through, you know, a decent amount of rounds quickly.
So a thousand rounds might, you know, be a couple of months of practicing at the range.
If you want to take it seriously, a lot of people don't shoot that much, but for hunting, people might shoot a couple of times.
Well, so I started buying bullets and I was like, I was talking to a guy at the shop and I was like, I'm getting a bunch of 12 gauge.
And I was like, is this, is this too much?
Does like, does this notify anybody?
He started laughing and he goes like.
You think you're anywhere close to prepper territory or even West Virginia resident territory?
He's like, come on, man.
Those are rookie numbers.
You got to pump those numbers up.
I'm like, all right, I'll take what you got, put them in the box.
And then I got like a huge box of 12 gauge, I guess.
But it does go quick, you know?
But anyway, I digress.
We're talking about COVID.
cassandra fairbanks
Sorry.
I'm a West Virginia fangirl.
Apologies.
ian crossland
And I like ammo.
I brought this up before you play Fallout.
You know, caps, bottle caps is the currency of the future after the nuclear war.
I think that ammo, it would just be ammo.
So like you use your ammo or you trade your ammo.
The ammo has weight.
I think that'd be a great modification.
tim pool
Super valuable.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
In another game I'm playing it's water is the currency.
So you carry that around and trade fresh water.
tim pool
Yeah, but it depends, I suppose.
Fresh water is probably... But you're not going to be carrying lots of water.
ian crossland
It's heavy, that's the problem.
cassandra fairbanks
Cigarettes and whiskey, too.
ian crossland
So you can find metal, copper, and stuff, but ammo.
Cigarettes is a good one.
cassandra fairbanks
Antibiotics.
tim pool
Bitcoin, because people will still have phones.
lydia smith
I'm kidding, I have one.
tim pool
No, yeah, I don't know.
ian crossland
Stuff that disappears after you use it.
tim pool
It's hard to know, actually, because water makes sense, but you can't carry a lot of water around with you.
You can carry enough for personal use.
You carry too much, and then you can't... you're actually exerting water to carry the water.
ian crossland
It's a great currency model for a video game, because of the weight.
tim pool
Plus, if you're carrying a big thing of water on, like, a wagon, like you're... You're a target.
Yeah, these roving bands are going to show up.
ian crossland
You have to hide it somehow.
tim pool
So maybe not water, but bullets make sense.
You know, you'll be out here... Bullets, for sure.
ian crossland
Also heavy.
tim pool
But I can't imagine that.
Maybe casings, because bullets you gotta use.
You don't want to give those up.
They're too valuable.
ian crossland
They're too valuable, dude.
tim pool
Dude, if the apocalypse happens, and you've got just, like, five 9mm for your gun, you're gonna be like, I will never give these things up.
You know?
ian crossland
I would never want to fire them.
That's why I train with a bow and arrow.
Because I don't want to waste my ammo.
tim pool
Yeah.
Alright, let's check this out.
Let's talk about some serious COVID stuff right now.
Because this one's probably going to get us a little bit in trouble on YouTube.
Daily Mail reports, is this the link between AstraZeneca's COVID vaccine and blood clots?
Shot may trigger an immune response that leads to the life-threatening side effect in rare cases, study claims.
They say, about 30 cases of blood clots among people who got a dose of AstraZeneca's vaccine were reported in Europe.
German researchers found signs of antibodies that attack platelets in the blood of nine people who developed clots after getting the shot.
These antibodies destroy the platelets to make up for the loss.
The body overproduces platelets, causing them to clot.
The team says that if their hypothesis is correct, the reaction can be identified and easily treated by medical professionals.
More than 20 European countries paused the use of AstraZeneca's shot this month amid clot fears, but subsequently resumed its use.
Officials in the EU ruled the rate of clots was not above that in the general population.
But Canada on Monday issued a pause on the use of vaccine for under 55s, citing concern over clots.
This is the kind of stuff that freaks me out because we've seen a bunch of stories, and this is what pisses me off, a bunch of stories where they're like, man gets shot shortly after dies.
And then you read the story, it's like one month later, he died and he was 75 years old.
And I'm like, come on, man.
Like, dude, we really need to know about this stuff.
And you got a bunch of media that wants to just freak us out and scare us.
This is legit though.
And I wouldn't be surprised if YouTube gets mad at us for even talking about it, but this is a legit NewsGuard certified source, Daily Mail.
And they're saying in Europe, they suspended it briefly.
In Canada, they're suspending it.
So I don't know what you guys think about this, but this to me, I think, you know, they're going to go after people calling them anti-vax if they bring anything like this up.
And that's the more dangerous thing in my opinion.
unidentified
Yeah.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
Because, I mean.
It's a real thing that's happening.
The governments are having to suspend it, but then if you're critical of it, or if you're skeptical, or if you're nervous about taking it yourself, then you're this, like, crazy anti-vax monster who believes disinformation, and you can't even discuss it.
So everybody's, like, hiding in shame being, like, freaked out about this thing, and nobody can even talk about it.
ian crossland
Vaccines are amazing.
Amazing technology.
But if they're misused, they're super dangerous and can kill people.
So that's why they have all this massive testing and they make them go through years of trials and stuff.
Why would you ever want to put yourself in a position where you might get blood clots for something unless that thing is super deadly and like gonna cripple you or something?
tim pool
What we have to look at is the rate at which people got blood clots and the COVID survival rate for someone who's under 55.
I gotta tell ya, I don't see a reason why people who are under 55 should be taking a medication that's been suspended by the government.
If Canada says don't take it, then the people in Canada probably can't do it, which means the passport thing, the whole vaccine passport thing, is broken.
It's not gonna work.
The survival rate for people under 55, I think, is what, like 99.995 or some really, really high number?
It's super high.
Young people are not being negatively impacted by this.
It's almost like a large voting block of older people are worried about this and pushing for this, and that's kind of like been the narrative for most of my life.
Older people wanted Social Security, so they vote to put money into it, then they take from it, the system collapses.
ian crossland
It's always been like, Jesus, look at Congress.
They're all like, not all of them, but a lot of them are over 70.
tim pool
I mean, Nancy Pelosi is what?
She's 80, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
Super old.
cassandra fairbanks
It's a very broken system when you're sacrificing your children to save the old.
Everybody's going to call me a monster for saying that, I guess.
Our children are committing suicide at super high rates right now.
They're suffering from depression.
Their, you know, abused children are stuck at home and not seeing teachers who could get them out of that situation.
There's all these, like, horrible negative effects of what they're doing for children right now.
And, I mean, all of this comes down to people who are older are afraid.
And so we're sacrificing our youth in multiple ways Have you seen these like these videos of the kids sitting at their desks and they're six feet apart and surrounded by plexiglass?
It's horrible.
tim pool
These kids are going to be very, very developmentally stunted.
ian crossland
Did you see the mother of the giving birth and there's a plastic tarp between her and the baby and she like squeezes the baby against the plastic.
The baby's like in its face smushed on the plastic tarp.
tim pool
I thought babies and like the super young were not, were like fine.
Like COVID wasn't affecting them.
And they like kids in schools weren't being affected or whatever.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
ian crossland
People are living in terror and they're being irrational.
tim pool
These stories, I'll tell you the big problem is that a sane and rational population would say, hey, you know, Canada is suspending this over blood clot fears.
Should we consider something like that in the U.S.
and look to these other countries in terms of their medical prowess and endeavors?
I mean, we hear all the time from the left about the health care systems of these other countries being infinitely better than ours.
There was recently a story where I guess like Norway was calling the U.S.
an underdeveloped medical system, which is just ridiculous, by the way.
It was clearly just the stupidest thing ever.
Like, you may talk about the payment systems being screwed up in pharmaceutical companies and the way the money goes in the insurance companies.
Fine.
But we got advanced technology here in terms of medicine.
But they were mocking the U.S.
saying underdeveloped.
It was like, be wary of traveling to countries with underdeveloped health care systems.
For example, the United States.
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
tim pool
Very funny.
Yet tons of people come here for medication.
Anyway, the point is, if we can't have a conversation about, OK, fine, these other countries are taking this seriously, then we're in trouble.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's it.
ian crossland
It's almost as if we have an overly qualified medical... Basically, what I'm thinking about is potassium bromate, or I think it's bromide or bromate.
It's a leavening agent in bread that causes cancer.
It's been known to be carcinogenic.
And Europe, most of Europe, has banned it from their bread products.
But the United States has not.
So, it's a big problem that the pharmaceutical chemical industry has more sway than common sense sometimes.
tim pool
What I'm saying is that, I'm talking about the media.
I'm talking about the fact that we'll be like, wow, Canada is suspending their vaccine for people under 55.
They're gonna call us anti-vaxxers.
They're gonna insult and smear and say they were questioning it.
It's like, no, dude.
ian crossland
And the Lievening agent is obviously, there's evidence that it's carcinogenic, yet the media, why would the media not be like, well, let's get it out of our bread products if it's causing cancer in people?
tim pool
They don't care.
That's not in the news cycle.
No one cares about brominated vegetable oils and like... Ugh, it's so bad for people too.
Sure, sure, sure.
ian crossland
Evidently.
tim pool
The media cares about protecting the status quo in the establishment.
There's no national conversation about roaming.
There's a national conversation about COVID and vaccines.
And so they want to toe the line, they want to mimic the status quo, and they want to write what other outlets write.
And if they find you as an other, it'll work.
I think the big problem, it's really annoying to me, Are we really in the minority or are we in the silent majority?
Which is it?
Is this country 80% a bunch of really dumb people who are like, I'm not going to talk about anything and I'm going to sit here and plug my ears and just do whatever I'm told?
ian crossland
Terrifyingly, the data says yes.
unidentified
I think that it's like 90% of people are kind of followers.
cassandra fairbanks
See, now that I'm in my beautiful right-wing bubble in West Virginia, I just can't, like, it seems like everybody doesn't want it and that everybody has common sense about it that, you know, they think that people who are very elderly should take it and that people who are younger should not.
And that's just like the common, all the conversations that you have with people in my neighborhood That's what it is.
And then you see it online and everybody just acts like that's a completely crazy, unreasonable fringe take.
So it's very disconnected for me.
I don't know.
tim pool
I saw something really funny today.
It was Brian Stelter from Reliable Sources asking if the White House press corps, like the national press, is out of sync with the American people or whatever.
And I'm like, man, it took you this long.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
It's been like... Children who are wrong.
tim pool
Yeah, six years.
Yeah.
Are we out of sync?
You know what I realized is really funny?
When there was a story in the New York Times about a party someone from the New York Times had been to a few years prior, and they were like canceled over it or something, and I'm like, what regular American is like, I'm gonna turn to the New York Times for the important news.
Janet went to a party three years ago and got canceled for being racist.
Wow.
That's the news I pay for, but people pay for it.
Their subscribers, it's going up.
They're making more and more money.
Journalists write about each other and I'm like, who are you talking to?
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
What?
Who is this?
But you know what, man?
It's frustrating because I was at, you know, we went out to a bar the other day and there was a guy who made a really great point.
He said, look, the vaccine's here.
It's available.
We're done.
It should be over.
If you don't want to get it, that's your problem.
I'll be fine.
Cause he was like, he said he was getting the vaccine and I'm like, totally agree.
Why should we have a vaccine passport system?
Why should we mask mandate or any social distancing when the people who get the vaccines will be fine?
If someone chooses not to get it, well then you're the one person who's going to get it.
Nobody else will.
I don't, I don't understand the logic.
ian crossland
The logic is if you don't get the vaccine and you carry it, then you can transport it to other people.
tim pool
But if you're vaccinated, you're fine.
ian crossland
According to Fauci, you may still need to wear a mask because you're not immune if you get the vaccine.
You're not.
lydia smith
So I wanted to speak to this because Fauci and Joe Biden, all these people are still wearing masks after they've gotten the vaccine.
What is the point of getting a vaccine if nothing changes?
I'm starting to feel like they're waging a war of demoralization on the American people.
And this is still an idea in development because I don't understand why they're doing this.
ian crossland
They don't know if the vaccine is effective.
We are the test.
tim pool
This is the test.
They do know if it's effective.
They've done numerous tests.
The issue is, it is safety versus freedom.
It is easier for them to be like, I would rather just be safe.
Peter Hitchens wrote this op-ed about getting the vaccine and he was like, I got the vaccine and all it cost me was my freedom.
And I'm like, look, man, I think the bigger issue is that there's no trust in our public institutions anymore.
We're hyper polarized and we don't like each other because if we were actually a unified country combating this great villain, we would be like, yes, we got to get everyone vaccinated.
We'd be like cheering for it.
And it would be only a few people who opposed it.
Yeah, exactly.
Everyone comes together.
Right.
No, we're fractured.
Nobody trusts each other.
The media's garbage.
They're like writing about each other and other nonsense.
They write about, oh no, Glenn Greenwald.
We got to write about him now.
Who cares?
Stop writing about other people.
cassandra fairbanks
That's the problem with a lot of it.
The media really killed their credibility during the Trump administration.
I mean, they were selling the American public a horror movie.
And now they don't have much else to write about.
So they're trying to create all these villains.
And everybody's just like, what are you doing?
Like, none of this is relevant to me.
And so when they do put out information about things like vaccines or COVID,
people are skeptical, rightly.
Because for years, we've been fed Russiagate and all this crazy nonsense from the media.
The P-tape.
Like, all this stuff that's just completely insane that they've been feeding us for so long.
How are you supposed to trust them when there's something actually serious?
ian crossland
I look at this, um, I agree with that.
Russiagate was so stupid and didn't have evidence.
I mean, or maybe didn't have enough evidence to warrant that amount of... What's her name?
The girl with the short hair.
lydia smith
Rachel Maddow.
ian crossland
Yeah, Maddow's obsession with it for two years.
tim pool
It was like... She like, nearly cried.
ian crossland
Oh my god.
But what I'm thinking about is the level of cognitive dissonance also that we're looking at, because I think that obesity is a big part of this epidemic.
And like with 60% of people, what were these numbers?
I want to get this number right.
Of people that have COVID are obese or 60% of people that are obese.
That's insane.
78% of COVID patients were obese.
tim pool
Well, but look, you know, I'll add to this.
People who are out of shape, unhealthy and sick are much more likely to die in general.
And so you add in, you know, COVID, which is, I think the mortality rate is like double the flu.
So it's like substantially higher.
And you're going to get a ton of people who are, who have comorbidities dying from this thing.
ian crossland
And if they're like, I don't want to stop drinking Pepsi.
I don't want to stop eating red meat every night, but you, I want you to get a shot that, that may or may not work so that I can feel a little better.
It's like, dude, take care of yourself.
tim pool
The issue is...
They believe the vaccines will work.
However, it's easier just to say safety over freedom.
That's why I was bringing up that point from the guy in the bar who was like, we get the vaccine.
It's on you now.
It's your responsibility.
I'm like, that's a great point.
He was pro-vax.
He was bragging about how he was getting his COVID vaccine.
He was really excited.
And he was like, and now it's your problem because you're the one who's going to get sick, not me.
And I'm like, that's right.
He was like a liberal guy.
And I'm like, that's perfect logic.
People have a choice to take care of themselves.
ian crossland
They don't want to do it.
tim pool
So the issue is, when it comes to Fauci, when it comes to Biden, when it comes to all these companies, listen, imagine Walmart.
You know, they're being told everyone's doing a COVID passport or whatever.
And they say, no, no, we're not going to do that because it's on the individual.
Well, then somebody gets sick and then sues Walmart, right?
Because you can sue a ham sandwich, doesn't mean you're going to win.
So Walmart's like, it is easier just to go with the flow and do whatever we're told, because then at least we can have plausible deniability or reject liability in the event someone gets sick in our store.
Then we'll just be like, oh, no, no, we have the passport.
Everybody's supposed to be, you know?
So I remember when I worked for Fusion, they made me do this hostile environment training, even though I'd spent like several years already in hostile environments.
And so it was fairly, there's some really cool aspects to it.
Fairly rudimentary, in my opinion, at least relevant to my experience.
And I was like, I was talking to the people about why are they, you know, making me do this?
I have extensive field experience in conflict and crisis.
And they're like, well, you know, it's just good.
And I went, insurance, isn't it?
Well, you know.
Yeah, because if I get hurt and then I say, well, they didn't give me the proper training.
So they're just like, it's easier to just make you do the stupid training course you don't need to do and waste the money and time because in the event you get hurt, we don't want to get sued.
ian crossland
It's a big problem with corporations and insurance and all that is that they look at people like numbers and they just treat us like a math equation.
lydia smith
I think that we're I think we're seeing the same problem at two different levels.
We're seeing a lack of responsibility and people who refuse to take care of themselves.
And you're seeing a lack of responsibility, responsibility from these companies who are like, we're not having anything to do with it.
You know, we're not going to assume any kind of responsibility for whatever happens here.
And they you know, they don't want to be sued.
I get it.
At the same time, it's like you need to, like, have some kind of accountability.
ian crossland
Like they'd rather poison.
I would imagine the corporate beast of Walmart would rather poison the population than suffer a bankruptcy.
tim pool
So I think about it this way, when it comes to politics, do you think any one of these politicians actually cares about you?
They can't.
ian crossland
Not me, because they don't know who I am.
tim pool
No, they can't care about you.
ian crossland
Literally, they don't even know me.
tim pool
Because when they look at the numbers, look, if it was an election between a hundred people between, you know, and they're like, okay, you're going to vote for me.
There's a hundred people.
I need to win 51 votes.
You actually could care about each of those people because you can meet them and know them and then actually convince them to vote for you.
When it comes to a politician who needs 50,000 votes in a local election, they can't spend time knowing everybody, so they don't care.
All of these systems have developed that way.
Walmart, Target, whatever the store is, the movie theaters, they look at their numbers, and they're like, we had 50,000 people come in this week to see a movie.
We don't know who they are, we don't care who they are.
100 of them got sick.
Okay, we'll ban those people, I don't know.
We don't know them, they're just numbers.
I'll put it this way.
When I look at my YouTube video count, I see a number.
250,000.
I don't know any of the people who watch that.
The number is meaningless to me.
And when I look at analytics, I see this in a bunch of other news outlets.
This is why the media becomes what it is.
They don't care about the individual.
They don't care about the ramifications.
Rachel Maddow says, Donald Trump, an agent of Russia!
And then all of a sudden, she looks at the number, and the number's bigger.
And she's like, hey look, it said 2.7 yesterday, now it says 3.1.
We should do the same thing again.
Not realizing that she was contributing to driving people insane.
Now, I absolutely self-reflected on all of that stuff and was like, I don't know what the solution is if we're all, you know, genuinely having these opinions and we're talking about them.
And in the end, many people are driven by looking at their analytics, every company, looking at their marketing numbers, every politician, not carrying out the individual, just doing whatever it takes to make that number go up.
But that means People are driven by confirmation bias.
So this is what happens to the media.
Rachel Maddow is like, just keep saying the same thing over and over again, the numbers keep going up, until they can't anymore.
That's the reality here as well.
When they're looking at, it's like a cost-risk analysis, you know?
You ever see Fight Club, where he's on the plane, and he's like, if the cost of a lawsuit is less than the cost of a recall.
We'll just take the lawsuit, basically.
That's the way it works.
So you look at Fauci, you look at the government, and they're like, the cost of forcing people to stay home is lower than the cost of the risk should something go bad.
Just make everybody stay home.
And we used to be, we came from this group of people.
And in fact, I'll tell you this, my props to all of the immigrants who are, you know, climbing mountains and riding trains and wandering through 90 miles of desert to get here.
Because those people have more pioneer blood in them than most of these urban progressives and suburban uppity-do liberals.
Who are like, I'd rather just be safe.
Now, these people are like, I'm going to cross a mountain and rip my feet to shreds and be abused and victimized by cartels, but I'm coming to America for that American dream.
I respect that a heck of a lot more than people who are like, I just want to be safe.
It's like that meme, you know, of the Shiba Inu being all ripped and strong.
And it's like, you know, colonists coming from Europe, dying on the boat halfway there, landing on a shore with nothing but trees and being like, I'm finding freedom.
America today.
Just keep me safe.
That's what we get.
unidentified
Nah, that's my rant.
lydia smith
I think that the further you get from these things, the easier it becomes to shrug it off.
I think part of the reason that Eastern Europe is still strong against communism is because they freaking remember.
They remember what communism was like, and once they start to forget, it's all over.
tim pool
I mean, that was not even 30 years ago, man.
It wasn't that long ago, yeah.
Yeah, Luke, who's been on the show frequently, I don't know where... Luke, you left all your steaks here.
Luke!
ian crossland
The steaks are frozen, Luke.
tim pool
We bought all these Peter Luger steaks.
Like, you gotta get Peter Luger steaks.
ian crossland
He's like, save them for me.
Keep them in the freezer.
tim pool
I'll buy them.
ian crossland
Alright, they're in the freezer, dude.
tim pool
But anyway, he was born in Soviet... God, that's part of why he's so awesome.
Poland was a satellite state of the Soviet Union, but he was born into, you know, that system.
lydia smith
It's made him cool.
tim pool
And he left when he was a little kid.
But I think it ended when he was very young.
ian crossland
His parents and his, like, uncles and aunts went through it pretty hardcore.
So he was told a lot about it.
I don't think he saw with his own eyes.
I don't know if he saw horrors.
He doesn't really talk about the horror a lot.
You really got to kind of pry it out of them.
tim pool
You know what I'd love to do?
I'd love to do an ancestry analysis of the people who support critical race theory and where their grandparents were during the civil rights movement.
Because I got a feeling that there's going to be some correlation between the status quo-loving, uppity-do, anti-civil rights white folk and the critical race theorists of today, either for one or two reasons.
It was a backlash.
These people, you know, are ashamed of their history and ancestry.
They're overtly racist.
Their family's racist.
And so they're like, yes, they're going to come out and admit their racism and then do everything they can to recognize and acknowledge all of these racial issues and everything.
I wonder about that because you mentioned, you know, for Luke, his parents told him about what it was like in communism, so he naturally hates it.
So what about these uppity-do critical race theory people?
Did they learn about segregation or not, that they're actually supporting it these days?
Or actually, I guess, using communist tactics?
unidentified
Which brings me to our next story.
tim pool
Check this out.
This is where it gets just real crazy, man.
Daily Mail reports, cops investigate Virginia teachers' Facebook group for naming parents who were against critical race theory and urging members to gather information on them.
They say the anti-racist parents of Luton County group shared personal details of those they say had opposed moves to teach the controversial curriculum.
I'm glad they're calling it controversial.
It urged followers to, quote, gather information and silence critics of the theory.
Talk about double speak on that one.
people to share addresses and social media. According to Purdue University, Critical Race
Theory scholarship shows how racism continues to be persuasive and why it denies individuals
their rights. Talk about double speak on that one. That's nuts. But critics say it leaves
people exposed to the training, feeling like they are being blamed for problems which they
did not cause and that it itself is racially divisive.
It's overtly racially discriminatory and racist.
One parent on the list, Patti Mender, says, I was personally attacked.
LCPS interim superintendent Scott Ziegler said, We fully support the expression of First Amendment rights and deplore any efforts to silence voices.
All right, I got a question.
Who is the LCPS superintendent talking about right there?
He says, we fully support the First Amendment and deplore efforts to silent voices.
cassandra fairbanks
I'm guessing the teachers, because the liberals run all the school boards.
tim pool
So, but wait, wait.
Is he defending the people who are being doxxed because it was threatening to silence them?
cassandra fairbanks
Doubt.
tim pool
Or is he defend—doubt, right.
So he's defending the doxxing.
Right.
Yeah, man.
cassandra fairbanks
This is a cult, man.
I would put money on it.
tim pool
This is a cult, yeah.
It's a cult, Ian.
ian crossland
Dude, it's because we haven't, we did have the civil rights.
You're right.
And a lot of people weren't privy to it, unfortunately.
But like United States has never been a totalitarian dictatorship.
So there's this threat of us falling into it.
Seamlessly, and man, it looks like... Looks like that's what this is.
tim pool
But listen, it's social enforcement.
This is the big thing people gotta recognize.
ian crossland
Yeah, it happens from the bottom up.
tim pool
That's where it gets really creepy.
And then once people lose confidence in government, which is literally happening... I mean, look at The Six, for instance.
People are losing confidence in the system.
And then you get a bottom-up movement of cultists who are just... The only thing they care about is being in their cult.
Look, these people were posting for years anti-Asian sentiments all over social media.
All over the place.
And then one day the tide shifted and the cult decided that was wrong now.
And now they're trying to cancel themselves because some of them were posting anti-Asian stuff.
There is no rule.
There's no structure to this.
It's literally just a cult.
Man, at least with Christianity, there's a Bible, and people can follow tenets and understand and read through it.
And I certainly believe there are instances where people selectively will choose to follow or not follow some things.
But there's literally a Bible.
You can look at it.
And yes, it's been retranslated and changed.
And I'm critical of that.
But for now, in the United States, King James Bible, there you go.
You read it, you know what it says.
Could you imagine if one day they were like, an editing board just came out and they were like, on page, you know, 232, we actually changed this one.
You actually can eat shellfish now.
ian crossland
We're good.
Basically that's what they did, the Council of Nicaea.
tim pool
I know, for sure.
That's why I'm saying- They twisted that thing.
We can be critical of that, but at the very least, right now in the United States and for the past several generations, the Bible's been the Bible.
ian crossland
Yep.
tim pool
For hundreds of years.
ian crossland
Since King James twisted his own version into reality.
tim pool
But with critical race theories, it's not even written down.
At the very least, they had to translate it and argue about it, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, I think the Black Lives Matter had, like, tenets on their webpage that they just stripped from the webpage and they no longer have.
That was kind of the Bible.
tim pool
Disrupting the nuclear family.
Check this out from the Daily Mail.
San Francisco school board strips vice president of her leadership title and removes her from all committees over 2016 tweets calling Asians I'm just, I'm not gonna repeat, I'm not gonna say the word.
Racial, disparaging racial term for black people.
But she still refuses to resign.
So this woman, this uh, what is her name?
Allison, is her name Allison Collins?
Anti-Asian tweets, uh yes, Allison Collins.
She posted that she wanted to have, give Asians a racial awakening.
Total cult stuff.
And then she referred to them in a very racist and disparaging way.
Like outright using a racial slur.
Now they're calling for her to resign.
This is all sorts of screwed up for several reasons.
For one, this is the vice president of a school board in San Francisco.
The people who are indoctrinating your kids, using racial slurs, and then claiming to be anti-racist.
That's why that's why I mentioned like who are these people's parents and grandparents homeschool your kids?
ian crossland
Yeah, yes, I think that we can't beat them by insulting them and calling them horrible for being racist
I just feel like we the only way is to like It's so maybe it's so obnoxious to say this over and over
again But it's to create a better system to be a pinnacle of what
you believe in which I think equality of opportunity Of all of us whatever we look like I don't really care
Um, and, and then capitalism roll around in that.
But this is interesting to talk about too.
Like I almost completely ignore this stuff in my daily life.
I focus on community, communication, organization.
And there is a value to calling out the problem.
tim pool
Pros and cons, though.
Pros and cons, though.
If you ignore them, they fester.
ian crossland
You have to call it out.
cassandra fairbanks
The problem is that the left is working really hard to get to children younger and younger.
I mean, they're putting stuff on Sesame Street.
They're getting critical race theory into elementary schools.
They're doxing parents for having wrong think.
There is a school, I think in North Carolina or South Carolina, where they actually did a conference instructing parents to go up against, I mean, instructing the teachers to go up against and contradict the parents of the students.
Whoa.
I mean, there's just all this stuff going on.
The left is targeting children with their agenda and the right is largely like, we're going to lead by example and we're going to, you know, we want to keep kids out of politics.
We're going to take the high road.
We're not going to stoop to their level.
But we're losing because of it.
tim pool
That's a culture revolution.
Having the kids, indoctrinating them, and then telling them to reject their parents.
Hardcore culture revolution.
cassandra fairbanks
I was disgusted.
I posted about it for Gateway.
I forget the name of the reporter.
He's doing amazing work on critical race theory stuff right now that's happening.
But he had a whole report about this conference.
You read it and it's just like, we're letting this happen.
I mean, school board elections don't have party affiliation listed, which I know you support, but I don't because we're getting all these leftists who are going into red areas and they're deliberately going in there so that they can counter what the children are learning at home from their parents who are right wing.
tim pool
I hate it. That's a problem. Crazy. But I think it's a bigger problem that people have given up on their civic
responsibility.
Right. So I think you agree with me on removing party affiliation. Big time. Yeah. I was just studying ancient
ian crossland
Greece last night.
I was telling you I was watching like a visualization of virtualization of Athens and like they were talking about
the politics and like they would take 50, 500 people from around every like of all 50 from all
the 10 areas of Attica bring them to Greece to Athens and then they would
all be part of politics.
And then 50 of those 500 would get chosen to be, like, the head of the council.
This is everybody, every citizen, every, I think they were only males at the time, but every citizen, male citizen, and they were all involved and they were all super excited to, like, adjudicate lawsuits about, like, people, are they guilty or not?
They were just so involved.
Everyone was so involved in the politics of the day.
I think we need that!
tim pool
Well, so now what happens is, you get these leftists, these Marxists, they'll run and be on the school board, and then what, people are gonna be like, this person sounds nice, and just vote for him?
cassandra fairbanks
Well, the problem is, yes, all of this stuff would be great in a utopia, like where we don't have political parties, Ideally, I would like there to not be political parties either, but there are.
And so when you have school board elections, you don't have people named.
These people are running on things like, we're going to get new school buses, we're going to help build a new football team.
They're not talking about whether or not they're going to be pushing critical race theory.
And people who live in these red areas assume that these are people from their communities who have, you know, similar culture and values.
So they're not necessarily digging as hard as they should be and a lot of these people are learning it right now
I've seen it happening in quite a few towns out in West Virginia, but
It's it's a problem because people don't realize I mean, they're just like you know, you know what they say when you
tim pool
assume Yes
ian crossland
Yeah.
I kind of feel like, oh, I know.
Yeah.
We make a butt out of you.
I think almost that we should be voting for smart contracts and not people.
Because if those people are telling you we're going to do this, this and this, and then they go in and they also do that and that, we didn't vote for that.
cassandra fairbanks
Right.
ian crossland
We voted for their contract.
tim pool
That's true.
That's a good point, actually.
Politicians should be like, these are the only things I plan to implement, and they should have a very comprehensive package.
That's a really, really good point.
Think about Andrew Yang, for instance.
One of the reasons I liked him was that his policy proposals were nuts.
The dude sat down and just started writing a book about all the policies he wanted.
He had one on MMA unions and stuff, and I'm like, man, this guy's nuts.
Yeah, exactly.
He was legit telling you, like, here's what I want to do.
Now, I guess the problem is, like, you know, you guys both point out, if someone comes to you and says, no, no, I'm not going to do all those really bad things.
I'm only going to do the really good things.
And then you're like, then I vote for that.
Then I choose you to do those things.
Then as soon as they're elected, they're like, now I'm going to do the things you hate and not the things you like.
Well, we should be able to be like, nah, Regis of grievances.
You ran on this slate of proposals.
You are not implementing them.
Instead, you're bringing in, you know, critical race theory.
They should be able to be removed instantly.
There needs to be a way to do like an immediate emergency recall.
cassandra fairbanks
Well, thanks to COVID, at least, the one good thing that's come out of this is that kids have been learning at home.
So parents are seeing what they're getting taught, and a lot of them are getting a rude awakening, like real bad.
And so I think that the one good thing that might come out of this is that parents are going to be looking more into the education system in West Virginia.
I'm sorry, I'm a West Virginia fangirl.
Yesterday, Jim Justice, or it might have been today.
tim pool
That was today.
cassandra fairbanks
Justice signed a bill where now we're going to be funding students instead of institutions.
tim pool
So is it like a voucher system or how does it?
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah, it's I'm so excited about this.
unidentified
It's literally like a voucher thing where like you can use it for homeschool.
cassandra fairbanks
You can do private school, charter school.
tim pool
That's a revolution, man.
cassandra fairbanks
It's so cool.
I am amped about this.
This is something that I've.
been talking about for even years even before I was on the right. But uh yeah it
just got signed into law I think it goes into effect in 90 days. 90% of West
Virginia children are gonna be eligible for it. It's wonderful. That means if
tim pool
parents homeschool their kids they're gonna get a cash stipend for covering
cassandra fairbanks
costs and stuff like that? Yeah I think they're called hope scholarships.
I could be wrong, don't quote me on that, but it's something, Hope something, but they're going to do like savings accounts where you basically can access this money that is for the child's education and you can put it towards public school or private school or whatever you want.
Teachers unions obviously are outraged because who the heck wants to send their kid to public school if there's other options?
It's glorious.
tim pool
You know what I think?
cassandra fairbanks
Yay, justice.
tim pool
We've become a very dull people.
And I'm thinking of dull in terms of, like, color saturation.
We are all such NPCs.
And I don't mean, like, you or I or, you know, Liddy or Ian specifically.
cassandra fairbanks
No, I'm awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, you're great.
unidentified
You're the best.
cassandra fairbanks
Just kidding, sorry.
tim pool
Obviously not us, though I do think we're duller in a sense than the people who came before us.
What I mean is that people have really just given everything up.
Where are the parents to be like, I want to go to my school and be involved?
And now they don't know that Marxism, critical race theory, whatever you want to call it, is seeping in.
cassandra fairbanks
Well, before my daughter was homeschooled, because she went to public school for about a year and a half, I was very involved in the school.
And I didn't know half the stuff that they were teaching them because they don't do it in front of the parents.
Like I went in, I volunteered every Friday, I went in as like a teacher's assistant, and I would help with crafts and cleaning and stuff like that.
I went on all the field trips.
I was involved in like parents groups and you don't know any of this stuff.
I mean when I was there we actually had a huge scandal and the freaking school administration was threatening to call the cops on all of us because the 14 year old student got raped in the bathroom by two adult illegal immigrants that were Wait what that happened?
Yeah in Rockville, the Rockville rape.
Now they say it wasn't rape and that it was consensual but the fact of the matter is it was a 19 year old who was in high school with our kids having sex with a 14 year old and another guy.
They took photos of it.
Who are these guys?
was horror like horrible. And so me and a whole bunch of their parents were upset about
it and we started writing being like, Hey, how many adults are going to school with our
children? And there was nothing about race at all. I mean, I was still leftist back then.
Who are these guys? Like, why were they there? They were adult illegal immigrants and they
got their placing them into the high schools because they're, they're at such a lower learning
curve that they they're getting placed, some of them in middle schools.
And so we all wanted to know how many adults were going.
There was nothing about race.
There was nothing about immigration.
We just wanted to know how many adults were in the schools.
They sent a school district-wide email saying that racism will not be tolerated, that they'll call the police.
It was wild.
I mean, I pulled my daughter out of school like two weeks later, but... I'm so sick of the cult, man.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's so amazing.
And the only reason it works is because people have become dull.
When, when, listen, when someone comes out and you're like, I don't like the fact that a child was, you know, attacked and they go, you're racist.
Shut your mouth.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
They like, they swearing almost.
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, they red piled a lot of moms that day.
There was, I mean, I was in involved with all these parent groups.
Everybody was super liberal, but as soon as that email came out, we all started messaging each other being like, what the hell is this?
Like, it was crazy.
tim pool
Safety.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
The school's just thinking about what's the easiest way out, and so they're just throwing spaghetti at the wall, seeing what sticks.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know!
tim pool
Just call them racists!
cassandra fairbanks
They blocked me on Twitter, because I started tweeting about it, too.
unidentified
Wow.
cassandra fairbanks
The school district blocked me.
unidentified
Nice.
cassandra fairbanks
And I wouldn't stop.
tim pool
But that's in West Virginia?
cassandra fairbanks
No, that was back when I lived in, just outside D.C.
unidentified
Right.
cassandra fairbanks
It was Rockville.
The Rockville rapes.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
cassandra fairbanks
There was a ton of coverage of it.
I mean, I was sending all the emails to every news station.
tim pool
Now in West Virginia, the kid comes to school and they hand him a gun.
There's your gun, welcome to school.
cassandra fairbanks
You're 13, you're an adult now.
They used to do that back in the day, didn't they?
tim pool
Well, they had gun clubs at the schools.
You know, I was thinking about guns and gun rights, and I think I realized something when you first start buying guns and getting into it.
You realize...
We're totally desensitized to cars.
I know cars aren't created for the purpose of killing people.
So I get that part of the left argument.
Cars are dangerous.
Cars kill a lot of people very, very, very, very often.
And I think about how we walk through busy streets.
You go to New York and like somebody will just walk through a busy street as cars are flying past them because they know people will use their brakes.
Why don't they have that same level of trust in somebody walking down the street with a gun?
cassandra fairbanks
That's a really good point.
tim pool
I know, and I've seen kids.
They're like arrogantly walking the street and the car will slow down and start honking at them angrily.
Or look at the Antifa people who go around surrounding cars and smashing them.
They know no one's gonna do anything to them.
Yet when it comes to guns, the assumption is that like every law-abiding citizen will just go nuts and start shooting randomly.
ian crossland
I think because guns are unique.
They're not transport vehicles.
Like their only job is to fire a bullet, basically, which is basically a killing tool.
cassandra fairbanks
It's not necessarily true.
You can also consider them a deterrent.
If you see somebody with a gun, you're not gonna mess with them.
tim pool
But I see your point, Ian.
But what I'm saying is, don't you trust people?
ian crossland
Kind of, dude.
Sometimes I drive down the road and I'm like, whoa, okay.
unidentified
No, for sure.
ian crossland
Two tons of metal going past each other, 120 miles an hour calculated, both 60 in each direction.
And we're just trusting that neither one of us is going to hit the wheel.
tim pool
It's amazing, isn't it?
Think about this.
I'm driving down a West Virginia road and it's like 55 mile limit.
And there's a thin yellow paint strip in the middle of the road to stop me in another car, which is like two feet from me from slamming in with the full force of 110 miles an hour.
And I was just mutilating and vaporizing.
ian crossland
To answer your question, yeah, I trust people.
On, like, explicitly.
cassandra fairbanks
I don't.
I'm constantly holding the, oh, I don't know.
I call it the O-S-H.
ian crossland
O-ish.
Yeah.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
I call it the O-S-R.
tim pool
That's what I realized when I would like, you know, walk around West Virginia.
I see those people with guns all the time.
And I'm just like, I'm not worried about any of these people doing anything to me because I'm not worried about cars either.
ian crossland
So you're becoming desensitized to it because I bet if people had never seen a car and they were first time, they'd be terrified.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
Like, ah, it's coming right for me!
ian crossland
But since we're like two or three, they're like, look both ways at the car.
I mean, in the very beginning, we were probably terrified of the noise, of the speed.
And you just get used to it.
tim pool
It's trust, man.
Regular people are all right.
But guess what?
Sometimes people ram cars into people.
Like, we see these videos, man, and there's some really awful instances that have happened to that van thing in Europe.
So, we've just become so accustomed and desensitized to the fact that regular people just want to live their lives.
Sometimes people drink and drive.
cassandra fairbanks
I think a lot of it is situational, too, though.
When I lived in D.C., when I heard gunshots, I would get scared, and I would, like, contemplate calling the police, or going to look if there's somebody, like, dying outside.
When I hear gunshots in West Virginia, we all say, like, it sounds like freedom, because you know that it's just, like, one of your neighbors doing target practice in the yard.
tim pool
Yeah.
cassandra fairbanks
So it's different.
tim pool
Think about it this way.
If you are in an area where guns are, and you know what people are doing with the guns, You're not worried, right?
People like, you know, they're shooting at the range down in the mountain, you know, shooting at, you know, with a really great backstop.
And if you're in a big city and you hear car noises, you're fine.
Now imagine this.
You're in the middle of nowhere on top of a mountain.
There's no roads anywhere for like 15 miles and you hear cars driving around.
You're going to freak out.
Like if you're in your cabin in the woods on your property, it's like a, you know, 20 acres or something in the middle of nowhere, or you're on some resort and you hear cars driving around and there's no roads, you'll probably wake up like, what is going on?
You'll freak out.
Imagine if you're, you know, vacationing somewhere in a private community and then you hear a weird noise that doesn't belong.
It doesn't matter if it's a car or otherwise.
Same thing is true for guns.
When you're in DC and you know the only reason people are shooting is because they're criminals, it's going to freak you out.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah, I mean, and it's weird because it's kind of backwards for me now.
I live on like a dead-end road, so when I hear cars, I get freaked out.
But when I hear gunshots, I'm like, oh, it's just, you know, the neighbors.
Even my liberal neighbors will sit on their front lawn.
We have like one semi-liberal house in the community, and even they sit out there and they'll like shoot off their porch and stuff.
tim pool
That's liberal to you.
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, they're probably libertarian, but whatever.
They're more left than the majority of people on our street.
But when I hear a car go by, I'm always like, what the heck is that?
And then I'm like, oh, it's just the dump truck.
But we don't even have mail that comes to the house because I'm so far out there.
So when a car comes up, I'm like, who the heck?
What's going on?
But when I hear gunshots, I'm just like, oh.
tim pool
Yeah, I remember I was walking through this area in West Virginia and I heard gunshots going off and I'm like, I gotta find out where those are and I'm walking towards the sound.
ian crossland
Oh my god.
tim pool
You know why?
Because the people who are there shooting aren't insane people.
They're not shooting randomly into the woods and it's not hunting season.
So I know that as long as, you know, I'm, I'm, if I'm going to make my way to these people, I know that they're probably target shooting because I was told specifically by a store that they do target shooting.
I'm hearing this.
Then I know they're, they're very, very likely practicing safety and I'm not worried about them.
It's, it's just like when I'm driving while crossing the street, I'm not worried about a car crashing into me.
I know that I can, I see the car.
I don't try making cars break for me when I, when I cross the street.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're, if you have a crosswalk, I'll try to like run across quickly.
But I'm not worried they're going to slam the gas on and try and, you know, steer into me.
I know it's not going to happen.
They don't want to do that.
So when I hear shots in the middle of nowhere, and I know there's a range nearby, I'm like, I'm not worried that someone's going to have an accidental discharge.
These people are at a range.
They're shooting.
I'm going to keep following the noise.
And then I ended up finding the range, and there was a guy, an older guy, and he was, you know, zeroing in his sights for his, you know, hunting rifle of some sort.
And I was like, hey, howdy.
And he's like, hey, how's it going?
He's like, oh, we're about done here.
It's all yours.
I'm like, hey, nice to meet you.
And that was it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's regular people.
lydia smith
So are you guys familiar with the story of Switzerland and how they do their guns?
unidentified
No.
lydia smith
I was reading about them and they start to train their kids to shoot when they're very young.
This is culturally acceptable.
They go to these shooting clubs.
Boys, it used to be a boys only thing, now boys and girls do it.
From my understanding they did have like a mandatory military service.
Everyone has a gun.
Zero murder rates.
Everyone treats them responsibly.
And I caught a little bit of heat on Twitter for saying this, but I think that guns should be viewed not as a toy, but as something that is fun and recreational, worthy of respect, a tool, something important that we need to understand and like really grasp.
I think that's what we're missing.
We need to make it like a cultural norm for guns to be acceptable.
Because if we don't, they're just going to be terrifying and only bad people are going to have them.
tim pool
We're getting dull.
Like dull in color and dull in sharpness.
People used to die all the time.
It was crazy.
ian crossland
It was crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, people would have like 10 kids because half of them would die.
ian crossland
I was just telling you guys about that siege in Crete where it was a 21 year siege where kids were born into this city that was under siege until 21.
And they would dig tunnels.
I mean, their life was they would go under in tunnels.
They couldn't see a guy from me to you.
And they'd have knives or like bats and try and kill each other in these tunnels and lay mines.
tim pool
Sounds horrible, dude.
unidentified
Horrible!
ian crossland
This was like 500 years ago.
tim pool
I'm glad we don't do that anymore.
ian crossland
I know, and thank God!
But like, if we're not careful, it could degrade back to that.
That's why I'm studying this stuff.
Like, how do we survive if society collapses?
Oh, you build mines under the opposing fence.
Yikes.
It's crazy, dude.
And like tunnel rats in Vietnam that would climb down into the mud and climb in this like, suffocation was a constant threat.
Just the terror and horror of war, and we have grown soft to that stuff.
tim pool
To everything, though.
So it's like, what's happening now is these cultists are coming in, they're taking over, and it's a really weird thing.
Like, I don't understand this weird overlap between the liberals, the left, and wokeness.
Because there are a bunch of hard leftists, like DSA, they're as woke as woke can be to the point where it's actually horrifying.
Like that video where the guy's like, hello, my name's Toby, he, him.
I'd just like to say, you know, point of privilege, the chatter in this room is really making it hard for me to focus, everybody.
Guys, you need to calm down.
And then the person goes, stop saying guys!
And don't, and I'm like, this is just lunacy.
They couldn't even have a cohesive meeting, you know?
So I'm wondering, where's that?
Then there's like the dirtbag left that are pro-gun, anti-woke, and just socialists.
So I'm like, what's this overlap?
So are these cultists, Are they socialists?
The people who are coming in doing critical race theory in these schools?
Or are they just woke cultists?
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
They're like opportunists.
Yeah.
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, I think they're Marxists.
tim pool
So they're like all about redistribution of the means of production or what?
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
And they're also on a power trip.
A lot of this, I think, isn't even political necessarily.
I think that some people got bullied in high school and now they want to get back at the world by bullying everybody else.
I honestly think that the A lot of it is not political.
I think that it's just power.
tim pool
It's a cult.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
That's all it is.
And that's what I was saying earlier.
It's like the rules don't exist.
They change on a whim because the real goal is that there's a, the real issue is that there is a chaotic destructive force that just seeks to infect and destroy and it has no real goals.
Like think about what the woke stuff is doing.
What is it doing?
It's destroying businesses.
It's corroding culture and destroying enterprise and business.
ian crossland
People want to be Avengers in real life.
They want to avenge their past torture from being bullied.
I know because I went through it.
In 2006, I started making YouTube videos.
I was like, wow, if I want to destroy anyone right now, I could get a crowd of people to go destroy their lives.
Not physically, but just...
Basically, it was pre-cancel culture, pre-docs, pre-all that stuff.
But I realized how powerful it was, this ostracization and how humiliation of people I could use.
Because I had like 10,000 people would watch and I'd be like, you know, call this guy on this day.
Everyone call him at this time and let him know this information.
And then do it.
Let's do it again tomorrow.
And like the power of the crowd.
It was.
And so I didn't allow myself to fall.
Thank God.
tim pool
Think about it this way.
You said the Avengers.
Marvel movies were amazing.
Making tons of money.
Everybody really likes him.
And they started getting a little woke.
And then people started complaining a little bit.
You know, Black Panther got some heat, which I don't think was entirely undeserved, but I like Black Panther.
I give it a 7 out of 10.
Captain Marvel got roasted, and it absolutely deserved it.
Now, they all made a ton of money.
Don't get me wrong.
But it's like...
That was the biggest cultural institution we had in film.
Like, the Marvel movies are... each movie's over a billion dollars.
Event... Endgame was, like, the biggest movie for a while.
I guess Avatar got re-released.
And then they infect it... infect it... infect it with this cult that starts just destroying what makes it interesting.
Then you start seeing, you know, some of the movies that come out are not as good and the writing gets a little weaker.
And it's like eating at the base of what makes things fun and interesting and slowly eroding and destroying them.
It creates nothing.
It does nothing.
That's why I think Marxism makes sense.
These people want to completely destroy what culture there is to create a new one.
They want to, they want to erase it first.
So they're not producing anything.
They're going to destroy everything.
And then from the, from the ashes, they will try to build a new.
ian crossland
I'm not familiar enough with Marxism.
Like communism, like China is like a pseudo or like a neo-communist.
It's not a real communist.
tim pool
It's just totalitarianism.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a weird like amalgamation of communism and capitalism.
And so there probably is a new word for it.
Maybe what these people are doing is a new word for like a neo-Marxism.
tim pool
I would say it's fair to say real communism has never been tried.
And then you must add the caveat to that because every single time someone does try to do, or I'm sorry, I'm sorry, no, that's wrong.
Real communism has never been implemented.
And the issue is that every time real communism is tried, they end up just killing tons and tons of people, millions of people.
And so that says to me that every single time you try, you will not be able to successfully implement your utopian vision of full-on communism.
lydia smith
It's a feature.
tim pool
Yeah, well, so the general idea these people have, and that's why they don't believe, they ignore the history, is they're like, gotta keep trying, gotta keep trying.
They have this magic view that we're all gonna live in a utopia, that we're all just gonna be holding hands and singing under a rainbow, and then everyone will own everything, and it's just garbage nonsense fairy tales.
So then someone says, I'm gonna try and do it.
Hello, good sir, Ian.
I'm going to make a communist utopia, as we've all dreamed.
Would you like to join, yes or no?
ian crossland
Absolutely!
tim pool
Cassandra, would you like to join my communist utopia?
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
You would.
Lydia, would you?
lydia smith
Yeah, sure.
tim pool
Congratulations.
None of you have to die.
ian crossland
Wait, I'm having second thoughts.
tim pool
Oh, I've got a Glock 9mm here.
ian crossland
Not about this.
tim pool
Oh, it's too late.
Now there's no one left to oppose my utopian vision.
That's exactly what happens every time.
It doesn't work because people say two words.
I disagree.
Well, I'm gonna have to kill ya, I guess!
cassandra fairbanks
Save the communists.
I mean, that's essentially what they're doing to people digitally now.
They're making it so people can't get jobs, they can't get bank accounts.
I mean, they're effectively trying to kill people.
tim pool
That's why it just becomes authoritarianism.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, you call it fascism if you want, and the left says, well, fascism is actually... I don't care what you want to call it.
It's a bunch of psychopathic, violent morons who are going to destroy everything because they want power.
They're not smart enough to make a machine work, so they're gonna throw a wrench in it.
ian crossland
You need some authority, like obviously a local level of authority.
You need a sheriff.
Maybe you don't need a sheriff these days, but it seems like you need a local order.
But top-down authority is very dangerous.
That's the lesson I've learned.
tim pool
I was talking to this anarchist dude about how in like, what was it?
Arco Polo is it Marco Polo not an Arco Polo just like a couple of a polka. Yeah
It's very anarchistic and you know That's what they do an Arco Polo and I and I was like this
guy's time. He's like look where I live There's no government. There's no police. There's no law
and everyone gets along just fine And I was like, so what would happen if you like walked
into your neighbor's house and took his stuff?
He's like I'd probably shoot me. I'm like, oh because you have a general understanding about what isn't isn't
acceptable, right?
Of course, so people work and I was like listen the the general understanding of what is or isn't acceptable
Is the basic formation of government between people?
A social order that exists.
So you're not in... Okay, fine, I get it.
You call it anarchy.
And there's no authority.
So, Anne without archy authority.
That I understand.
But there is government.
People are armed.
So let me ask you another question.
If someone comes into your house and takes your stuff, would your neighbors help you stop that person?
Yes.
Congratulations.
You've formed a small government.
There's no exchange of currency.
You just agree.
We live here.
We're in charge.
And if someone comes and tries to take from us, we're going to use force against them.
Scale that up and you get more and more government.
So it's really simple to start creating government.
And then you take a look at these small anarchist communities.
And it's no surprise that over time, as more and more people move in, government becomes more and more overbearing.
So I actually was thinking about this in terms of science.
And I feel like it's basically following a similar principle to the state of matter.
So I think about it this way.
If you have gas, particles are far apart, bouncing around all crazy, and so it makes
this, you know, gas can be moved and shifted about, and you can whiff through it and all
that stuff.
As you start to compress that into a tighter and tighter space, it becomes liquid.
Now it's harder to move through.
And then if you compress it even further, it becomes a solid, now you can't move through
it at all.
That's basically how I view government.
If you have a bunch of people all separated, then they have these big bubbles of inherent- of personal freedom where they can do whatever they want.
We can go outside and launch our remote control car 50 feet up in the air and then laugh as it smashes it in the ground.
You can't do that in New York!
They'll come and get angry.
Because the closer people get together, it starts becoming rigid like solid matter.
People's rights get compressed as more people emerge around them.
And then big cities start pushing totalitarian and despotic rules and laws.
Can't have guns anymore.
You can't play loud music.
You can't, you know, play, you can't play, play instruments in your own home.
You can't go out at certain points.
Oh no, there's a pandemic.
Now everyone's got to get shots and everyone's got to get vaccine passports.
Then you go to the mountain where everyone's separated.
Life's normal.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
Totally free.
cassandra fairbanks
We're also unincorporated, too, so we don't even have, like, that much government, really.
I mean, obviously, you have, like, state and county and stuff, but we don't... I mean, people will be in our group chat being like, hey, is this legal?
And people will respond and be like, is somebody gonna die?
And then they'll be like, no, and they're like, okay, then do it.
Nobody cares.
tim pool
So we had a conversation about guns with Luke, and we were talking about how in New York City, for instance, it's almost impossible to have a gun.
And then you get all these liberals being like, why would anyone need an AR-15?
And it's like, you're not even saying anything when you say that, because there's so many different variants and calibers and modifications.
You don't know what you're talking about.
But I mentioned, you know, it's probably not a good idea for someone to have a .308, you know, rifle for home defense in a studio condo in New York City, because that bullet's going to rip through walls and maybe hit somebody.
And then Luke instinctively said, maybe we restrict.
And I was like, oh, up, up, up.
The point is, maybe the individual is responsible for whatever comes out of the barrel of that gun.
And if they do have a .308 in their home, they should know better than firing it because it's going to go through walls.
And if they hit somebody, that's negligent homicide because you are the individual responsible for that weapon.
You should be allowed to have it.
But if you shoot it, you're gonna get arrested when someone gets hit, or for the vandalism and damage you cause by doing it.
Same as if you had a car, and you drove on a private property, you're in trouble.
Same if you had a car and you were speeding, and you hit somebody.
You're legally allowed to have a car, you're not legally allowed to crash that car into someone's storefront.
So I'm like, you know, that's the idea of individual responsibility in big cities.
You can still have that freedom.
It's just your responsibility.
ian crossland
I really like this metaphor of states of matter and government, like constriction, like pressure, like, because beyond, so maybe we're in the fluidic state.
It's either liquid or gas.
There's resistance.
When you move, the government is the resistance.
You can kind of push through it.
There's wind resistance.
You hit terminal velocity, but once you get even more spacious than gas, you turn into plasma, which is the fourth state of matter, which is like, there is no wind resistance in a plasma state.
tim pool
People are running around firing rockets.
What is it?
ian crossland
It's electromagnetic?
Topia.
unidentified
With access to whatever you need?
tim pool
Like plasma is the fourth state of matter.
I would liken that to living literally in, you know, a hundred square miles of
desert with no one around you.
You could just take a dump right there.
ian crossland
With access to whatever you need.
Like electrons can appear in different places within the cloud.
tim pool
I don't know about that.
ian crossland
More like matter formation.
tim pool
I'm just talking about the closer people come together, their rights start compressing and it becomes totalitarian, like a rigid, solid state of matter.
ian crossland
And if you need to import resources, that's bringing people closer together.
So if you don't need to import resources and you can create them on the spot, you can take a dump in the desert, you can create your water and your food.
tim pool
That's where we're headed.
The fourth state of this analogy is that you're in the middle of the woods on this massive 200 acre plot of land you own, And there's no one who's allowed on your property and you take a dump right there in an open field and the only one you bothered is the guy in the space station who's looking down with his, you know, satellite, telescope, whatever, and he's like...
ian crossland
Posting it to Instagram.
tim pool
You know, he's like, that's so gross.
Or he laughs and he's like, legit.
ian crossland
If people could have lots of space and could create all their materials on source, like at location, I think that we would not really need government.
tim pool
You could have in the middle of nowhere.
So there still is population density of the planet, which means you can't, you know, build nuclear weapons and stuff because people, you'll interfere with them at a greater distance.
But think about, like, your range of effect when it comes to your rights.
If you live in a tiny cubicle apartment in New York, you can't play the drums, man, because you're gonna have 10 people being like, dude, come on, man.
It's not fair to us.
ian crossland
I know that firsthand.
tim pool
Right.
ian crossland
It's sad.
tim pool
And so you're like, I have a right to be noisy between these hours.
And it's true, but it's kind of a dick move.
You know, people might go to sleep, they might go on a night shift.
So it's not necessarily just about law, it's about social enforcement.
Now, you live in the middle of nowhere, 200 acres, you're right in the middle.
You could literally pull out, like, I mean, just watch Hickok 45.
The dude just goes nuts.
I watched the video, I was tweeting about the KSG-25.
Dude loads KSG-25 with slugs.
It's a tactical shotgun that holds 25 shotgun shells.
And he's just going boom boom like crazy, just shooting shotgun slugs like nuts.
Because there's nobody around him.
ian crossland
And if you had your own planet, you could set off nukes all over the planet and no one would care.
tim pool
Exactly.
That's the plasma.
You have your own planet, like Dr. Manhattan, and he builds a gigantic weird structure and he floats around doing whatever he wants.
Because you got nothing, no one to bother.
ian crossland
And literally, you could light off nukes and no one would care.
Or it wouldn't be concerned.
tim pool
Let's jump to a less philosophical but interesting story about someone bothering somebody.
This is nuts.
You guys ready for this?
Nike sues rapper Lil Nas X over Satan shoes that have real blood in the soles.
The shoes, which contain a drop of human blood in the sole, went on sale Monday for $1,018 per pair.
They say the shoes are unofficial designs of Nike's trademark Air Max 97 design, though the shoe company said it is not involved with the creation of the shoe.
They contain a drop of human blood in the sole and went on sale Monday.
Only 666 pairs were made available and all were sold out shortly after going on sale.
The shoes drew plenty of high-profile critics, including South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem and former Clemson University quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
Our kids are being told this kind of product is not only okay, it's exclusive, Noem tweeted.
The artist responded by writing, you're a whole governor and you on here tweeting about some damn shoes do your job.
Lil Nas X is not named as a defendant in Nike's lawsuit.
Not named, interesting.
Shortly after the lawsuit was announced, he posted a tweet showing a homeless Squidward from Spongebob Squarepants begging for change.
And it says, me after the Nike lawsuit, and there's a homeless Squidward.
I thought that was funny.
cassandra fairbanks
I thought that was funny.
tim pool
Nike filed a trademark infringement and delusion complaint against MSCH, uh, Mischief, MSCHF today,
related to Satan Shoes. Quote, We don't have further details to share on pending legal
matters. However, we can tell you we do not have a relationship with Lil Nas X or Mischief. The Satan
Shoes were produced without Nike's approval or authorization, and Nike is in no way connected
with this project.
First of all, that tweet with the Squidward thing.
That was legit.
That was funny.
How did he decide?
How was he able to make a Nike shoe without Nike's approval?
That's just not fair.
cassandra fairbanks
They're customs.
They're not actually by Nike.
tim pool
But isn't that...
Infringement of some sort?
cassandra fairbanks
You would think, but it seems like they, I mean, there's a huge culture.
I've been learning this the last two days because I'm in a Twitter war with Nas's fans right now.
I got ratioed to hell myself.
But there's this like huge subculture of people who customize sneakers.
And apparently it's a really big deal.
And Nike normally doesn't enforce copyright, I guess.
But because this one has caused so much blowback, I think they had no choice, really.
tim pool
I don't care about this shoe.
I actually think it's kind of funny.
ian crossland
He dripped blood in the shoes and then resold them?
Is that what it is?
cassandra fairbanks
I don't think it's his blood.
I really want to know whose blood it is.
unidentified
That's kind of weird.
cassandra fairbanks
That's so creepy.
tim pool
I mean, look, I think it's weird, but I think if somebody wants to make a weird shoe and sell it and they like, oh, I'm saying bleh.
ian crossland
But it had the Nike design on it?
The logo?
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
ian crossland
Okay.
cassandra fairbanks
My issue with it is not the troll game.
Like, I respect his troll game.
He got me ratioed real hard.
Like, I got ratioed to hell.
Like, it was crazy.
I have to give him props for that at least.
You know, troll respects troll, I guess.
But my only issue with anything that he's done is the fact that in January he was doing interviews with NPR bragging about how children are his fan base.
He was doing videos with Elmo.
He wrote a children's book.
He performed in an elementary school gym.
I think there was a Kidz Bop version of Country Roads or whatever the song's called.
unidentified
Kidz Bop?
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, he really went out of his way to market to children, which is a smart thing to do because children are a huge consumer base and parents are going to spend money on their kids all the time.
It's smart.
tim pool
I'm glad he did.
cassandra fairbanks
But the problem is, you can't brand yourself I mean, I think that the lyrics to Old Town Road are questionable anyway, and parents probably shouldn't have been letting their kids listen to it.
But, you know, after the children's book and the NPR interview and during a concert in Roblox, he's branded himself as somebody that is safe for children.
tim pool
So this is the best thing he could have done with the Satan shoe with the blood in it.
Because now parents are going to be like, whoa, maybe I shouldn't have my kid following this stuff.
cassandra fairbanks
If they catch it on time.
I mean, as a parent, I have a really difficult time with it because my daughter wants to watch people playing video games and stuff.
And so I'll be watching a video game channel with her and it'll seem very wholesome and it'll be great for weeks.
And then all of a sudden they'll start talking about like some insane cult Blueanon nonsense or, you know, saying that there's 170 genders or whatever the hell.
And it's hard to keep up with it, especially on YouTube and stuff like that.
But even with like Disney Channel and Nickelodeon, it's very hard right now to find like wholesome content that you can trust.
And I know parents work and there's all kinds of stuff going on.
You can't always keep up.
This guy built a reputation that he was safe for children.
And then he came out with a video where he's pole dancing to hell and then giving a lap dance to Satan.
You can't really blame parents for being upset with this one.
tim pool
I'm just saying, by doing this and generating the controversy, it's like setting a flare up into the air so that parents can see it and maybe now realize he's not so safe for kids.
unidentified
Right.
cassandra fairbanks
Which is why people are calling it out.
unidentified
Right.
cassandra fairbanks
Everybody's like, you're trying to get him canceled and, you know, all this stuff.
And first, it's like, yeah, kind of, because, like, I firmly believe that we should be canceling the left back.
But also...
It's more about making sure that parents see it.
You want parents to know not to let their kids watch this.
And so by putting articles up on Gateway Pundit that are getting, you know, hundreds of thousands of views, maybe some parents will be like, oh crap, my kid really likes this.
I better watch out.
tim pool
Absolutely.
cassandra fairbanks
And I think that's important.
tim pool
It kind of reminds me of, I think it's a, I think it's a family guy joke where they give, you know, one of the kids like Stewie a children's video on YouTube and they're like, hi kids, let's learn the ABCs.
And then like the parent walks away and they're like, ABC.
All right.
Are your parents gone?
Good.
Go into mommy's purse, get her credit card.
Now go to this website.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, are they gone?
All right, let's do this.
There's a lot of jokes like that.
I just think... I mean, for one, again, I'll stress, his troll game's on point.
And so I look at what he's doing as, like, screwing the status quo.
It's punk rock, man.
And I was thinking about that, like, where's the... You know, we talked about Eminem's song, Cancel Me or something, I think it's called.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
Without Me?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
It's like a new one.
They're trying to cancel me.
cassandra fairbanks
I think he's so dorky.
tim pool
Yeah, it's not very good.
But we talked about that song Without Me.
You guys remember that song?
Love that song!
The whole song makes no sense.
It's called Without Me and the whole song is about cultural references at the time.
He's literally just talking smack and being extremely offensive.
I don't think anybody would make anything like that and popularize it on TV or in movies the way they did, because he literally makes disparaging remarks about Christina Aguilera, you know, surfacing to guys from that era in the song, and that song's got a billion views.
I'm just thinking about this stuff, like, where are the people who are like, I'm going to screw with the system to, like, my utmost, like, to the maximum possible level, and just tell everyone to go shove it and you can't do anything about it?
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, this isn't new, though.
We had Marilyn Manson.
We've had all this stuff before.
It's not new.
The only thing that's different is, yeah, this is literally two months ago.
It's not like we're talking about, like, Miley Cyrus, where she was a child star and then grew up and started making content that was more geared for adults.
I know people still get mad about that, but that bothers me less.
This was literally in January. He's putting out children's books. He's going on NPR talking about
how he wants to appeal to children or how he likes that he appeals to children. And it was
a marketing strategy. Children are a huge, huge product consumer base. Like what? How old of
children? I mean, the average age for a Roblox concert is under 13.
Like, the average Roblox user is under 13.
My daughter uses it all the time.
He did a video with Elmo.
I mean, that's geared towards toddlers.
tim pool
Sesame Street went, like, full-on racist, apparently.
Anyway, so Elmo got to learn about why Martin Luther King Jr.
was wrong in one of the weirdest segments I've ever seen Sesame Street do.
It was amazing.
unidentified
Tell me.
Tell me!
cassandra fairbanks
Alright, fine.
tim pool
I'm being a bit hyperbolic when I say they learn about why Martin Luther King was wrong.
That's not literally what they're saying.
I'm sure Martin Luther King Jr.
these characters are saying like the color of their skin is a very important aspect of who they are.
All right, fine, I'm being a bit hyperbolic when I say they learn about why Martin Luther King was
wrong. It's not literally what they're saying. I'm sure Martin Luther King Jr. thought there
was relevancy to the color of skin because of racism. They say, first revealed on March 24th
by Sesame Workshop, the nonprofit organization responsible for the long-running children's show
production, ABC's of racial literacy resource, is designed to help families celebrate their own
unique identities and answer children's tough questions about race and racism.
Apparently in this, like, Sesame Street segment, he asks them why they're, like, black, and they explain their race and all that stuff.
The issue I take with it is that, while I certainly think colorblindness as a general term is probably not a good thing, we do want to recognize racism exists and that people are treated poorly, you want to treat people as equals without consideration of their race.
The problem is, I guess, many people are saying, no, you should give me positive discrimination because of past discrimination.
That's Ibram X. Kendi's thought process.
So, sure, this dude's doing videos with Elmo.
I'm not sure Elmo is something people want to have their kids watch.
But you know what happens?
I bet a lot of millennial parents are like, I used to watch Sesame Street.
You should watch Sesame Street, too.
And their kid comes in one day, and a seven-year-old goes to their mom and starts preaching about racial segregation.
And the mom's going to be like, What?
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, this just happened to me, like, recently.
And it's shocking.
Like, I am almost a helicopter parent about what my daughter sees, what she does on the internet.
I don't allow her to be on the internet if I'm not in the room.
Like, I am kind of a bit much about this.
But I was watching, we went on vacation, we don't have cable at my house, we just watch like streaming services, but we're on vacation, we're in the hotel room and I put on the Disney Channel.
And we're just watching a show that we've watched a million times, old show, so it's not, you know, over the top.
But a commercial came on talking about like the impeachment and how he's not necessarily, just because he was found not guilty doesn't mean he didn't do something wrong.
And then Black Lives Matter commercials and all this stuff.
And I'm sitting there, I'm like, when I was little, Disney was wholesome as heck.
And so I implicitly, I trust Disney Channel and Nickelodeon and stuff, because when I was a kid, it was like people getting slimed and stuff.
They weren't talking about politics.
They weren't talking about this stuff.
tim pool
Wow.
When I was a kid, all that stuff I wanted to do the opposite of.
You know what I mean?
Like when we would see those commercials about like, well at least maybe it's growing up on the south side of Chicago, where they're like, you know, stay out of gangs kids and don't do drugs.
Like all of my friends were like, hmm.
I think I'm gonna go do those things.
ian crossland
What are those?
tim pool
Yeah, what are those?
Yeah, apparently there was like, I guess in some instances, the D.A.R.E.
program, which was telling kids not to do drugs, just taught them how to do drugs.
ian crossland
It was like, don't put it in your mouth and light it with a lighter and then suck it in.
Don't do that.
tim pool
Don't inhale afterwards.
Yeah.
So we just watched Man of the Year, just like as an aside real quick.
Have you seen Man of the Year?
cassandra fairbanks
No.
tim pool
From 2006?
Robin Williams?
So Andreas was telling us, he's a dude who hangs out here, he was telling us that there's a scene where Robin Williams says, Covfefe, Covfefe, over and over again.
He doesn't.
But we watched the film.
It's about a media personality who's supposed to be like Jon Stewart.
And people are like, why don't you run for president?
He does.
And then he wins.
It's the craziest thing.
You gotta watch it.
You gotta see this movie.
You know why?
You know why you gotta watch it?
It was like watching someone predict Donald Trump.
Robin Williams plays a misogynistic, anti-Semitic comedian.
And I don't mean that in the literal sense.
I mean that at the time that comedy was considered appropriate and good and everyone loved it on the left.
So when he makes jokes about women and Jews and illegal aliens, everyone's laughing.
And so he actually gets like 10% in the polls.
There's one scene where basically he's debating the other two presidents because his poll numbers are so well.
And then he's like, they want to add a constitutional amendment so you can't burn the American flag.
unidentified
It's a distraction because four million illegal aliens just crossed our border.
tim pool
Robin Williams said that.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And I was like, this is crazy.
And then he ends up winning.
I'm going to spoil the movie.
It's, you know, 20 years old, but he ends up winning because of a computer glitch.
So new electronic voting machines are brought in, and there's a glitch which causes him to win.
It's the weirdest thing ever, just like watching this movie.
Now the craziest thing about it is, it ends with like, he wins the presidency, then it ends with him realizing he didn't really win.
He goes on Saturday Night Live and he's like, the establishment should be in charge.
We should allow the political elites who have no allegiance to the American people, but like, he says, seriously?
The whole point of the movie is him saying, the Republican Party and the Democratic Party don't represent us anymore, that they're just in it for the special interests, they take all this money, and they owe favors to these interests, and they pay them back by screwing over the little guy and ignoring what the people need.
And at the end, he's like, but you know what?
Maybe that's how it should be.
And then they all cheer and celebrate and send it live.
It's like, yay!
It's really, it's a really creepy movie.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Super creepy.
Yeah.
Just, you should check it out.
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I don't know why they mentioned the AstraZeneca vaccine.
I believe that's the one that's been discount that's been frozen in Canada.
lydia smith
It's the one.
tim pool
Yeah.
Matthew Hammond says, Cassandra is the best.
Can she host the podcast Cult's Conspiracies and Cassandra?
What are you waiting for, Tim?
Administrative support.
So like production to like oversee the project.
But yeah, how about Cult's Conspiracies with Cassandra?
lydia smith
I kind of like that, yeah.
tim pool
Triple C!
cassandra fairbanks
Pretty good.
tim pool
Yeah.
cassandra fairbanks
And thank you.
unidentified
All right.
cassandra fairbanks
I'm very excited to do it.
tim pool
Mark Hunt says, what's your thoughts on the Suez Canal situation?
I love the memes.
There was one post where someone said, every man on the planet has a solution to how to get the ship unstuck.
It's like all of the men of the world standing around a pickle jar that needs to be unstuck and they're telling you how to do it.
And then the best, the response was, and each and every one of their responses is correct.
Yes.
They got it unstuck, the ship, and then 10 minutes later got stuck again.
ian crossland
Oh, wow.
tim pool
But I guess they got it back out.
ian crossland
Oh, good.
tim pool
It's funny.
ian crossland
Okay, so that was costing, it was a ship ran aground in the Suez Canal, blockaded, and was costing like $60 million a minute or some absorbent amount of lost transit.
tim pool
So there's a bunch of memes where it's like, you know, I think Luke posted ordered nine millimeter and then it was like shipping.
It was like, it was en route.
It's the guy like smiling.
And then it says, uh, last known location Suez canal.
And he's like all shocked.
Yup.
Well, not, it's not that it's in the canal.
It's that nothing could get through the canal.
All right, let's see.
Cryptic says, Tim, how do you feel about the rising Wall Street silver movement?
Some mints are now unable to deliver silver to unallocated accounts until months.
Looks like the physical squeeze on silver is working.
That'll be really interesting.
I mean, I don't know enough about silver, how that's gonna work.
I do own silver.
I mean, I think most people have some kind of silver.
Uh, it'll be cool.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's good or bad.
Don't know a lot about silver.
ian crossland
I should say that 20 million a minute, I don't know if that's what was being lost in the Suez Canal.
Yeah, the Athenians... But what do you think about silver?
The Athenians mined it.
That's what made Athens so great.
tim pool
Silver?
ian crossland
Yeah, silver mine.
tim pool
What'd they do with it?
ian crossland
Um, they would melt it into coins, primarily.
Uh, I don't know what else, but they would just use slaves... People would, like, lease their slaves to the Athenian state to go down there and mine silver.
tim pool
Interesting.
Well, there's alternatives, you know.
Legit, it was our fault.
I didn't communicate with Jeremy beforehand.
And then he ended up going on Adam's show.
You know, Eric Allen says, thanks for clearing up Friday for people.
It definitely helps.
And I hope you guys collab again soon.
Much love.
Legit.
It was our fault.
I didn't communicate with Jeremy beforehand, and then he ended up going on Adam's show.
And so then when I came up for pre-production, what people need to understand is for a lot
of guests when they come in here and I haven't talked to them before, there's always something
So you'll notice some shows are literally, like when we had Jodi Shaw on, I think for like 40 minutes, she was just telling her story.
We didn't need a lot of pre-production to be like, tell me your story and let's work our way through this.
For Jeremy, we both do a very similar, you know, kind of commentary thing, and we had just done a show the night before, so we kind of exhausted a lot of the topics we could have talked about, and then he didn't realize we had an earlier call time because It's our fault.
Someone on our end told him not to worry about it.
And then I was like, dude, I don't, we don't have any stories.
Like I've not prepared anything.
We haven't gone over anything.
We haven't talked about anything.
And a lot of the stuff we were going to talk about, we talked about yesterday.
I was like, I just don't know if I have it in me to like pulse them together in the last few minutes.
And so it was, it was my fault.
Nothing to do with Jeremy.
He did everything he was supposed to be doing.
ian crossland
Jeremy, you are the man, dude.
I hope you're watching right now.
I love you, dude.
And thanks for coming.
That was really fun.
And we should play games someday.
I know it's a little...
You skipped over the internet, but let's hang out sometime.
Come back or I'll go over to your house.
tim pool
Yeah, some people mentioned like with James O'Keefe, he was super late.
And I'll mention with James, straight up, when he called me before the show and said, I'm going to be late.
I was like, I can't do it, bro.
I was like, look, we try to be on time for everybody.
And if you can't make it, I don't play favorites with people.
I've had so many really amazing high-profile people message me saying, just do a remote show, Tim.
Just for me.
And I'm like, dude, I can't do it.
Because I'm not going to do a special thing for every single person.
James chartered a private plane.
And so I was like...
Okay, I was like, all right dude, okay, you got it So and that and that also too was very much James says don't worry I've got a bunch of stuff to talk about so when I get there I was like, okay I guess we'll try and you know put something together and then when he gets here He's just gonna talk to us We ended up doing a full hour bonus show because there was so much James and I hadn't talked about it's really really hard I think people need to understand too that There's a lot.
There's a decent amount of pre-production.
It's not the biggest deal in the world, but it's a decent amount where we warm up, we talk about ideas, we line up our stories.
You'll notice we pull up a bunch of stories and read through them.
It's because we did all the work loading them in the first place.
So maybe not what people expected, but that's just the reality.
And sometimes it's just hard to pull things together and we screw up.
It's just a sad reality, I guess.
Let's see, Koldilocks Production says, What happened to the right to privacy or patient confidentiality from doctors, businesses, and government?
Doesn't need to know my medical history, let alone what I do in my private life at home.
That's actually a really, really important point.
HIPAA laws, right?
What if I just say...
I don't have to prove it because it's my privacy.
cassandra fairbanks
We give them an inch and they're going to take a mile.
That's my fear with all of it.
ian crossland
Nazis would like really they would execute sick people.
That was a big part of it.
He wanted to get rid of like the not pure people.
And a lot of those were like people that have mental problems or physical problems or just illness in general.
tim pool
I have a question.
Was it with the Americans with Disabilities Act?
Is that what it's called?
Yeah.
So what if you go to Walmart and they're like, you have to have proof of vaccine and you say, I have allergies, I can't get it.
Can they say you're not allowed to come to this business because of a medical condition?
cassandra fairbanks
I wonder if they'll do exemption cards.
tim pool
I've dealt with severe allergy before when I was growing up.
It freaks me out.
I was in the hospital, like, for a couple days, I think.
lydia smith
It can kill you.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's no joke.
That's why people carry EpiPens.
And so when they announced, they're like, vaccine, don't take it.
If you have food allergies, you gotta wait.
I'm like, you got it.
Because I've been through that.
I do not want to go through that again.
So what am I supposed to do?
If they launch these passports, look, I think vaccines are rad, but I was advised against, you know, and it's not even, it's not even any particular vaccine.
I was reading about it and they said for most new vaccines, there's a wait period for people with food allergies because there's the possibility of anaphylactic reaction.
And then we saw those nurses who had it.
So I'm just like, dude, apparently those nurses were like, no, it's okay.
I'm fine.
I was treated.
I'm like, yeah, but like going to the ER and like getting the epinephrine, like, I'm not all about that, man.
Sorry.
I don't trust Trump with everything either.
I want to get it.
Like I got no beef.
I'm stoked.
Look, I know a lot of people are saying they're worried about it being rushed, but I'm like,
Trump's the one who rushed this through.
cassandra fairbanks
I don't think I don't trust Trump with everything either.
I get it.
Pardon Assange.
He's like, I don't know.
Trump is wonderful.
He's great and all, but just because he pushed it doesn't mean that it's great.
I'm sorry.
I can't get on board.
I'm going to get us in trouble if I keep talking.
tim pool
I just think that they didn't want to give him a success.
You know what I mean?
I think FDA approval is extremely important.
A lot of these vaccines have been around for a really, really long time, so we know the adverse effects.
So I really just... I'm not... I don't know.
I just think we need FDA approval.
cassandra fairbanks
I think that people who are very high risk should take it.
I just think that the risk for people who are not high risk is I don't want to questionable.
tim pool
I don't want a food allergy risk.
ian crossland
The FDA is not even the end all.
It's just an organization, government organization.
Like they say aspartame is totally fine because they've done one study on rats
with it that caused cancer or, or seemed like it was carcinogenic, but because
they never did other studies on aspartame, they say there aren't enough studies.
So say that it's carcinogenic.
tim pool
Are you 100% sure about all of those facts, or is that your opinion?
ian crossland
Last I've studied that, yeah.
Last I've studied, they did one aspartame study, carcinogen study on rats, and then it showed that there was a likelihood that it was carcinogenic, and then they stopped doing the studies.
And now they say there aren't enough studies to prove it, so there's not enough evidence.
tim pool
I think cultural enforcement, social enforcement, is always the most important thing.
You know that people don't drink that stuff a lot as much anymore?
Like soda.
Regular old soda.
People don't like drinking that anymore.
Water consumption's going up.
It's so great.
You ever see Hydro Homies on Reddit?
There's a viral Reddit group where it's just people like, gotta drink more water.
And they post pictures of bottled water and that's like, memes about drinking more water.
Yeah, I was reading that like soda consumption is way, way down.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I know all my friends, when we go out to eat, we usually just get, like, water or alcohol, if you get alcohol.
But when it comes to, like, fast food restaurants, most people that go to fast food restaurants don't get large sodas anymore.
They'll get, like, unsweet tea or something.
ian crossland
Who owns Coca-Cola?
Nestle own Coca-Cola?
tim pool
No, I think Coca-Cola owns Coca-Cola.
ian crossland
I wonder if they're investing in water, like, doing bottled water.
Is Avion like Coca-Cola?
tim pool
Oh, of course they are, absolutely.
ian crossland
So they're like, let's get away from soda, let's buy the water mines, and then we'll start selling water instead.
Which, you know, has a double-edged sword, I guess.
tim pool
All right, let's read this from Brent Sagan.
He says, Hey Tim, your bullying of my brother Grant to make an account on your website is yet to work, but could you shut up my friend Robert?
He listens to some of your stuff and he's leaving for the Navy today.
Oh, wow.
Sounds rad.
Cool, man.
Well, have fun.
Absolutely.
And thanks for listening to the show.
And your brother Grant, he's letting us down.
I think if Grant doesn't sign up, I might just have to pack it in because to be honest, I was just trying to get his respect the whole time.
lydia smith
Grant.
tim pool
Grant.
What's up, dude?
If I can't inspire you, then maybe I should just take the beanie off.
unidentified
You can inspire, dude.
tim pool
Come on, Grant, you can join.
Become a member at TimCast.com.
Joe Spinella says the Privileges and Immunities Clause, U.S.
Constitution, Article 4, Section 2, Clause 1, also known as the Comity Clause, prevents a state from treating citizens of other states in a discriminatory manner.
So that means New York can't really do what they're doing with this vaccine passport, huh?
That's weird.
I don't know.
lydia smith
I'll look that up.
tim pool
It's going to require a Supreme Court lawsuit.
cassandra fairbanks
I feel like the government's doing a whole lot of things that they shouldn't be able to do.
So I don't even know anymore.
lydia smith
Emergency.
tim pool
Yeah, they often and yep.
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, we're still dealing with the Patriot Act and stuff.
I mean, we're going to be dealing with these COVID emergency things for a long time, I think.
tim pool
So, uh, Nishra produces, uh, some of, some of my music and, you know, uh, many people, many people, many people probably know her from Adam's show, which I remember she asked a few months ago, she was like, we're talking about guns and she's, she's from Sweden.
She goes, wait a minute, I'm confused.
The second amendment says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
And we all go, uh-huh.
But they're infringing, and we all started laughing, like, yes!
Yes!
cassandra fairbanks
She's so cool.
tim pool
Yes, she mentioned this to me before, she was like, just earlier today, she was like, I don't understand how your constitution literally says you can't do it, but like, everywhere does it!
unidentified
And I'm like, you're asking me, dude!
tim pool
That's my thing.
It's like, I actually think we should be responsible and have a conversation about gun control.
But I think the Constitution says otherwise.
And if people want to change that, it doesn't matter what my opinion is or anyone else's.
There it is.
Constitution says it.
Then you got to bring all the states together and change it.
And that's the reality of how it's supposed to work.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's free everywhere, and then state by state, they can kind of dictate, but then city by city, can they do it also?
Can they be like, in this city, it's open carry, even if the state says no?
tim pool
Apparently there's a bunch of rulings already saying everything they do is illegal anyway, but who wants to be the person to get standing to sue after they get arrested or charged?
ian crossland
I think the NRA, or someone like that.
tim pool
The NRA.
ian crossland
Are they like in the pocket of somebody?
tim pool
The NRA is just like a... I don't know.
lydia smith
What do they do?
ian crossland
Isn't their purpose to uphold gun rights?
tim pool
They don't.
cassandra fairbanks
Their purpose is to collect donations.
Gun Owners is really good though as an alternative to NRA.
I really like them.
They actually stood up for the controversial person in Kenosha.
tim pool
I want some gun rights organizations to go to the inner city youth in Chicago who are arrested on gun possession charges and advocate for the right to keep and bear arms.
That's pretty cool.
cassandra fairbanks
I'm actually looking right now.
West Virginia just passed something pretty cool, but I don't want to misstate it.
And I'm sorry that I keep talking.
tim pool
What do you think it is?
You are legally obligated to carry a gun?
cassandra fairbanks
No, there's something there.
They're going to not enforce federal laws about guns, but I don't want to misstate it.
tim pool
Yeah, well, there's always the ATF, so.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
Charis says, Hey Tim, I work in healthcare.
I install patient monitoring hardware and software.
I work with nurses, doctors, and biomed personnel.
Sometimes a mask is our only armor in these hospitals, like that rare charm in an RPG.
Yes!
Yeah, man.
People don't realize this about hospitals, but old people die from hospitals.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
No joke.
They'll get sick or they'll have to go to the hospital for a broken bone.
And then there's just illness all over the hospital.
People are sick.
And so they can contract the stuff.
What like, you know, MRSA and stuff.
lydia smith
Yes.
Yes.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
cassandra fairbanks
I found it.
West Virginia House passes bill to ban enforcement of federal gun control past, present, and future.
unidentified
Wow.
cassandra fairbanks
Wow.
So, I mean, they'll still have to go to justice and stuff, but... Right, right, right.
Obviously.
tim pool
And you still gotta deal with the ATF.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
So we got the federal government.
cassandra fairbanks
But we've had a lot of counties in West Virginia becoming sanctuary counties, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
cassandra fairbanks
And they're saying that they won't work with ATF.
They won't work with the FBI or whatever, so... Very cool.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But that means so what so it'll be interesting to see what happens if someone in West Virginia decides to
Get a full auto weapon without going through the NFA the tax and all that stuff in the ATF. We'll see
cassandra fairbanks
They're not going to have help from local law enforcement if, you know, things go as they look like they're going to.
tim pool
But then this could lead to a lawsuit that goes to the Supreme Court.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
All gun control is racist.
And I'm not even exaggerating.
That's true.
Ask Maj Touré and Black Guns Matter about it, because they're not wrong.
All right.
Landoon says, Hey Tim and crew, I'm a soldier in the U.S.
Army.
Our unit has had loose rules regarding the wearing of the mask since the lockdown began, but other units are very strict about the mask.
It all depends on who your leaders are.
Interesting.
DarthTyphon says, Tim, you guys should have Magnus Penvidya on the show.
It would make for a great conversation regarding the culture war between the establishment and bottom unity groups such as boogs, anti-fascists, and right-wing militias.
Keep up the great work.
Thank you very much.
Not sure.
I haven't heard that.
Tim, can you talk about how Democrat policies fit together?
Lockdowns cause people to lose jobs, so they can't afford the reintroduced
individual mandate of ACA.
Soon they need to go on government healthcare to get a vaccine passport.
That's really interesting.
Did they reintroduce the individual mandate?
cassandra fairbanks
Not sure.
tim pool
The involuntary mandate?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ben Walker says, thanks for talking seriously about vaccine risks.
I'm 100% pro-vax, but side effects can be serious.
Check out Pandemics, GSK swine flu vaccine that gave over 10 people narcolepsy.
I have narcolepsy, it's no joke.
Pro-vax, but people should be aware of potential risks.
I think that's, in an honest society, we'd be saying, dude, vaccines are amazing.
ian crossland
They're amazing.
tim pool
I had a conversation with some conspiracy person a while ago, and I said, if you've got, you know, a million people who might die from something, So you introduce a vaccine that's going to save 950,000.
And then 50,000 people will get some serious side effect from the vaccine, some resulting in death.
But you save 950,000 people.
Like the problem I think a lot of people don't realize is that if there is a system in place that causes some adverse effect, They focus on that as the worst possible thing.
When it's possible, COVID could have been way worse.
So one of the challenges with talking about lockdowns and masks and all this is that we have no metric by which to judge a lot of these policies, because we all did it.
You can look at Sweden, you can look at the numbers in Texas, and we start to get a clear picture of, okay, maybe the lockdowns were a bad idea.
In the beginning, though, we just didn't know.
There was nothing to compare it to.
So we were like, let's try and do the right thing.
And then when people were looking at numbers, we still didn't know.
Maybe it would have been worse if we didn't.
We don't know.
Now it's a year plus on.
Now we're starting to get a better picture.
Texas, the number's going down.
In Florida, they're well below average because it turns out COVID actually transmits easier indoors.
I guess that's what Fauci was saying.
And now we're kind of changing that policy for some reason.
Biden wants to keep going.
I think it's because safety is easier.
Just to absolve themselves of responsibility.
ian crossland
Of course, but if you give up freedom for safety, you lose both and deserve neither.
According to one of the great Founding Fathers.
tim pool
Alright, Steve Smithy says, Hey Tim, love the show.
Are you excited for the new Hearthstone expansion?
What class are you looking forward to playing the most?
Also, if you like card games, you should check out this upcoming game called The Bazaar.
I'm not super... I don't... I don't... I used to be way more into Hearthstone.
I don't care too much or track the expansions or anything like that.
But I do play it a lot.
I typically just play the tavern brawls and the solo because...
unidentified
Eh.
tim pool
It's more fun.
It's just more fun.
ian crossland
Great YouTuber called Trump that does Hearthstone vids.
I watch a lot of Trump.
Mage?
tim pool
Mage is the best.
ian crossland
I like Warlock because of the draw.
tim pool
But Mage is slow.
It's just so OP, the Mage getting that one point of damage every turn to spot removal.
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
Mage is insane.
Have you played Hearthstone?
No.
It's Blizzard's card game.
It's awesome.
It's like a Warcraft card game.
cassandra fairbanks
Nice.
tim pool
All right, so Bass says, DeSantis is already planning an executive order banning vaccine passports in Florida.
I need to leave New Jersey.
Yes, sir.
You need to leave New Jersey.
We left quite a while... we left a little while ago.
Only several months at this point.
It's been... it's been just about half a year or so.
Not quite.
And, uh, yes.
Luke went to Florida.
Luke went to Florida because of DeSantis.
I'm assuming.
DeSantis is like, we're gonna protect people from censorship.
We're gonna allow people to be open and live normally.
And Luke was like, you can buy guns.
You can go to the beach.
You can go to the restaurants and eat food like normal.
Censorship.
DeSantis is doing a good job.
cassandra fairbanks
I'm like...
I want to love DeSantis so bad, but he's actually not really great on censorship.
He was very... I think he actually signed a bill in Israel that was... In Israel?
Yeah, about BDS.
And as much as I hate the left and they make me crazy, I think that censoring BDS is wrong.
ian crossland
What is BDS?
cassandra fairbanks
Boycott... Divest and sanction.
ian crossland
It's against the Israeli state.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
And so a lot of people are advocating for it.
And then a lot of groups have tried to, like, ban it in some capacity.
Like, didn't Congress try to ban it or something?
cassandra fairbanks
Well, they try to make sure that agencies who support it don't get government money, I believe.
I could be wrong.
I'm not super well versed on it, but I really oppose any Like government mandates on who you can boycott or not.
And I think that that's a very strange and dangerous form of censorship.
So I don't like it.
tim pool
It's really simple.
I oppose blocking contracts with companies that engage in any capacity in BDS because they're calling for boycotting, divesting or sanctioning Israel.
I don't agree with BDS.
But they're expressing their political views and their opinions.
I do agree with Donald Trump's executive order banning government contracts with companies that engage in critical race theory, because the critical race theory trainings are a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, I believe, Title VII.
It's a big difference.
BDS is, here's my opinion and here's what I think we should do, and so we're going to hold ourselves to this.
And the other companies are like, we're engaging in illegal practices.
cassandra fairbanks
Also, it's a foreign nation.
Like, you're boycotting a foreign nation.
It's not like you're doing something that has any effect on American companies or... I don't know.
It just it's weird to me to legislate that Americans can't speak out against another nation.
That's very strange.
I mean, I know a lot of the right really supports it, but for me, that is a thing.
Every time that I'm like, yeah, DeSantis, you're killing it, you're doing great, I think about that and I'm just like, it nags at me.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
You got to be careful for tribalism.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
Because they might just be doing things that are popular with the base.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Patrick says, as a proud Mountaineer, I've been very happy with how my state has handled COVID, the election and the bills being put through the legislature right now.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah, me too.
They're so good.
I've been watching it all day.
My whole feed is West Lake cheering for various things that West Virginia passed.
tim pool
The Dallas Dead Eye says, Tim is like, don't believe fake news media, but bet your life on medical media because they don't lie.
Foolish.
You see, that is just a gross mischaracterization of my opinions.
Here's what I actually think.
A good portion of VC-funded digital media outlets is woke rage-bait garbage.
This stuff has begun infecting a bunch of major corporate news outlets like CNN and the New York Times.
Many of these outlets do report very fine news, but I have to sift through it to try and figure out what's garbled nonsense and what's actually backed up, and even I can't do that all the time.
So I actually don't say, you know, I'll definitely say question a lot of the stories from the media and fact-check them.
But I use CNN and the New York Times for various stories and I use them on purpose because I'm not saying everything they do is bad.
I'm saying they have very corrupt components within them.
As for the medical media, let me tell you this.
Doctors used to tell you to smoke.
They're not always right and there are risks involved in any of these things.
But I'll put it this way, man.
I've gotten tons of vaccines.
I understand this is rushed.
I understand people are taking serious issue with it.
I understand Canada has just suspended the AstraZeneca vaccine.
European countries did something similar.
There are real conversations happening around whether or not there are going to be serious risks and the long-term effects.
My point is that, I think you said it best, the older people who are at risk should get it.
Younger people probably don't need it.
And I'll put it this way.
When it comes to vaccines, I go to the doctor, and the doctor says, Frozaldazaban and Nazoprene or whatever, and I'm like, I don't know, dude, I have no idea what that is.
I'll Google it and be like, I don't know, what am I supposed to do?
Patch me up, doc, and send me on my way.
Talk to your doctor, and I gotta be honest, you should be trusting your doctor more than you trust me or anybody else.
Your doctor, who you talk to, is gonna know about your health more than Dr. Fauci or Trump or me or Joe Biden or anybody, and that's all that really matters, man.
ian crossland
I kind of take a view of like skepticism with any kind of media, but also not obtrusivism.
Like don't just reject it at face value just because it's comes from the media or the pharmaceutical industry, including these.
Like I was just looking up some aspartame studies.
There was one about rats in 2006.
You looked it up?
Yeah.
That caused cancer.
They said there were problems with the study.
They say they've done more studies on it.
Never really found a link.
You know, that's how I live.
I'm skeptical.
I got to do my own research really and read each study piece by piece.
tim pool
Yeah.
Myself says, Tim, I had a dream that you hosted an event at your compound and we went turkey hunting on your property.
You see a lot of turkeys out there?
Been practicing your calls?
We have a lot of turkeys.
The other day we had a group of turkeys just walking through the parking lot, and they're just doing turkey stuff.
They're chilling.
ian crossland
Dude.
tim pool
Uh, we're not gonna kill them though.
ian crossland
Nice!
tim pool
Yeah, so I was asked by the guys at the gun shop, they were like, you got a lot of turkeys?
I was like, oh, one day we'll probably have like 20 or 30.
And they were like, come on.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
We're like, you know, we're not going to kill you.
ian crossland
It made me think about Andreas was telling me in the sauna the other night.
We have a sauna, by the way, and it's amazing.
Get in the sauna if you can.
If you play bat sounds, did he tell you this?
I was like, how do we get rid of the mosquitoes?
He's like, you play bat sounds.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
That's true.
ian crossland
That's very smart.
They know that sound he said he went into a room in South America that was like
Infested with like thousands of mosquitoes like it was disgusting and they played bat sounds on their phone
And they all left all the mosquitoes left the room cuz the bats eat him. Yeah
tim pool
We got chickens sad news though I I tweeted about it.
We did lose two of the chickens, and the sad truth is that they were just weak.
We went to a local farm.
We got eight chickens, and they were all fairly young.
I think they were like five weeks old.
And very quickly, two of them started getting sick and displaying signs of parasites.
One of them just dropped dead and it was like rather abrupt.
We knew it was sick and I didn't, I was like I don't know what to do.
I googled it and then within like 16 hours of realizing it was sick it was just, it just collapsed.
I went out one morning and it was just standing there all poofed up and chilling.
Came back an hour later and it was collapsed and it was struggling to breathe and then within 20 minutes gone.
The next one was was really sad. It was a really nice little chicken and it was active. We got
brought to the vet. The vet said looks like a parasite. We're gonna give it some medicine. We
did and then we started on medicine for the first day and then all of a sudden started improving.
She started drinking water, started eating food and peeping and I was like this is fantastic.
Next morning, dead.
ian crossland
Just, wow.
tim pool
Yeah, just gone.
Another of our chickens started poofing up, stopped, he started getting lethargic, and I was like, aw man, because they're spreading this parasite.
So I gave it the medicine at the first sign.
Later in the day, chicken was running around eating again.
Next day I gave it medicine.
Seems to be totally fine now.
ian crossland
Keep up with the medicine.
Because there might be still trace parasites.
They basically poop in their own food and then pick at it.
tim pool
There's such nasty little filthy.
ian crossland
Filthy little dinosaurs.
tim pool
Watching these little things walk up to their water, drink, and then turn around and just lift their wings and just dump right in their water.
I'm like, what are you doing?
I gotta clean it out?
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
And they're still alive.
tim pool
But they've learned.
ian crossland
The species has persisted.
tim pool
We got stink bugs here like crazy.
Like nobody's business.
Chickens love stinks.
ian crossland
They'll eat right out of your hands too and it doesn't hurt.
They'll peck at your fingers, doesn't hurt.
tim pool
But you give them a stink bug and they'll start chasing each other, fighting over it.
ian crossland
Yeah, I want to do a chicken race where like one of them has a stink bug and you just have like a long corridor that they run.
The other ones will chase them.
unidentified
They're great.
tim pool
They're getting big real fast.
I'm excited.
Yeah, right now they're in Chicken College in the Chicken City because they all hang out together and like huddle together.
lydia smith
No Marxism.
tim pool
And then, yeah, there's no Marxism.
That's very capitalistic.
And then once they're older, there's houses.
They'll have to, you know, move into their own homes.
cassandra fairbanks
No critical chicken theory.
tim pool
No critical chicken theory.
ian crossland
We're watching, though, to see if it displays naturally.
lydia smith
Yeah, it won't.
tim pool
Clayton Pajunas says, Hey guys, I just wanted to say thanks and share some tendies.
Hopefully my diamond hands gorilla shirt comes soon.
P.S.
Ian's killing it today.
Love y'all.
ian crossland
I'm excited for you to get your shirt.
tim pool
Yeah, we, uh, we got, we got them.
They're downstairs.
We need to open them.
ian crossland
Oh, nice.
I'll wear one.
Tomorrow, baby.
tim pool
Yeah, the diamond hands gorilla.
So most of you know we have the I am a gorilla shirt.
It's just a meme about Alex Jones when he kept saying he was a gorilla.
So we made a gorilla saying I'm a gorilla.
It means nothing else, really.
But then because there was the meme from the Wall Street vets about apes strong together, the planet of the apes thing, and they used the gorilla emoji, I was like, let's give our gorilla a suit and hold stacks of cash with a cigar and sunglasses.
So it's the diamond hands gorilla.
See, he's got all this cash because he has diamond hands and he held for as long as possible.
And then he sold out at the top.
Or, I guess diamond hands means you never sell.
unidentified
Wow.
I don't know.
cassandra fairbanks
I haven't sold.
I still have a bunch of AME.
tim pool
If it were me, I'd keep it forever.
unidentified
Why not?
cassandra fairbanks
I mean, AMC.
tim pool
Arsion says, to both Ian and Tim, you guys need to do more research on the Council of Nicaea.
If you know anything about the history of Catholicism, you would know that Gnostic Bibles were made to subvert Christianity.
Narcissism came hundreds of years after Christ.
Constantine protected the Bible's legitimacy.
Interesting.
ian crossland
I think the Palace of Knossos was a Cretan, a Minoan capital.
It was K-N-O-S-S-I-S, not Knossos.
I don't know if they were related.
Seemed like a learning place.
But Seamus will be here eventually, and he is a master of Catholicism.
tim pool
Yeah, he knows a lot.
ian crossland
We could definitely talk about that.
tim pool
That'd be fun.
Steven Pizowski says, I live in Richmond, VA.
Cassandra is right.
Broad Street, which was the best it's been in 50 years, is still mostly boarded up from the riots.
I work in government.
Small business applications are down 90%.
cassandra fairbanks
I was right where the riots were and in the Stonewall Jackson statue we drove past that and stuff and I was just like... It's not the Richmond that you think of anymore.
It was very odd.
And yeah, you could see all the riot stuff left over.
It was horrible.
unidentified
Crazy.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah.
tim pool
Dixon says, Ian is Soy Moses and I'm here just to watch him take red pills.
ian crossland
I will feed you the golden calf.
In fact, you can eat gold, monatomic or colloidal gold suspended in water if you go online and look for it, and it's really good for you.
It coats the neurons in your brain, causes them to superconduct.
If you're stretching and your muscle's gonna rip, it'll fill in the rip and you can keep stretching.
tim pool
Don't take medical advice from Ian.
ian crossland
This is not medical advice.
It's a supplement.
It's like a food, but apparently gold used to be in the ground and we would get trace, like you want iron in your body.
tim pool
You want trace metals from dirt too.
ian crossland
And it, we mine so much of it out that we're not getting enough gold in our diets.
So you supplement.
tim pool
Interesting.
ian crossland
That Moses, Moses would have been.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Dr. Doctors is a man who is truthful to himself, has no secrets and tells no lies, has nothing to fear about himself.
Also, change starts from within and flows outwards.
Thank you to all for being self-actualized.
You're helping others find their way and voice much love.
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Nice.
lydia smith
Thank you.
tim pool
Hayden says the terrifying cult isn't actually Marxist, it's Traditionalists with a capital T. Look into Professor Benjamin Teitelbaum's work on the subject.
Greenwald is a fan.
This was the Viking aim of Ragnarok, the utopian goal of the Germans in the 1930s and others.
Yeah, the woke left are not progressives in the actual literal definition.
They're very much reactionaries in the literal definition.
So reactionaries were those who wanted to maintain the status quo in the French Revolution, simplifying for sure.
And they'll call themselves progressives today because they know it's the only way to convince people.
Because like, oh, the progressives are always right.
In reality, The things they're implementing are things from a long time ago that we defeated.
They're trying to rewind the clock on freedom of speech.
They're trying to rewind the clock on racial segregation.
And they're getting it.
These people are outright reactionaries who are trying to revert the system back to the way it used to be because they don't like the world we're in now.
ian crossland
That's like doublespeak at its finest, calling it progressivism.
tim pool
That's what they do!
The anti-fascists!
And they go around beating Pete Doblespeed.
cassandra fairbanks
The worst part that I've been thinking about a lot is that there's white moms that are
pushing all this white men bad stuff online and in the ballot box.
And it's just like how, what kind of culture and society has moms that are doing these
things that are against their own children's self-interest?
Or their own children's interests?
tim pool
Did you see that Emily Ratajkowski article for Vogue?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Where she's like, I had a friend who was pregnant, and she would look at her sleeping husband with disgust, saying there was nothing worse than a peacefully sleeping white man in patriarchy or something.
cassandra fairbanks
Oh my god.
tim pool
And she was shocked that she was bringing another white man into the world.
unidentified
She cried.
tim pool
Yeah, she cried.
And then she later finally learned that she could love her husband again.
That is psychopathy.
ian crossland
I'm trying to put myself in the position of a kid when I had to hear that.
It would have messed me up so bad if I thought I was just inherently a problem on society.
cassandra fairbanks
But that's all that the kids are hearing right now.
That's what they're hearing with critical race theory.
That's what they're hearing with these stupid Sesame Street programs and all this propaganda that's flooding all the time.
I mean, you're having white supremacy They're talking about how like shooting, mass shootings are white supremacy when it's mostly not white people or that they're the ones attacking Asians, mostly not white people.
tim pool
Mass shootings are mostly white people.
cassandra fairbanks
No.
tim pool
I looked it up.
cassandra fairbanks
No, look up the, there's a website that has actual photos of every single one from 2020.
The thing you're probably not counting gang, gang shootings.
tim pool
I just looked up the hard numbers for shootings of four people or more and it's like 66% white and like 22% black.
cassandra fairbanks
Then they're not counting gang shootings.
There's some websites that don't count them.
tim pool
Ah, I'll have to look into it.
Alright, Shameless Girlfriend says, First Super Chat.
Absolutely love the members-only Jack Murphy content.
CrossSmack Openness is the most OG video on the tube.
Hoping for a shoutout to Steve Cronin, early victim of YouTube censorship and true libertarian.
ian crossland
CrossSmack Openness was my first YouTube video.
It's on my CrossSmack channel, which was my old email address, and thank you for that.
I love... it's real, man.
tim pool
Freedom Thoughts says, Tim, you've been talking a lot about how the far left likes guns.
That's definitely true, but for how long?
I think once they gain power, they'd strip them.
On another note, you should make some Timcast logo stickers for cars.
Perhaps, and you're probably right, 100%.
Once they gain power, it depends.
The actual libertarian left, pro-gun, will always be pro-gun, and want to be hippies on a farm with their guns and say, leave us alone, we share in the fruits of our labor, and that's how it works.
There's like a famous commune that's a hundred people and they mind their own business.
That doesn't scale up.
You can't make a 330 million government based on left libertarianism.
Sorry, it doesn't make sense.
Right libertarianism does because capitalism is a structure by which people can associate and form, you know, an economy.
And then you have the authoritarian left, which is the natural progression of the libertarian left when they realize they can't actually scale up their world.
So then they become, they are pro-gun, and then once they realize the only way to maintain their system at scale is to oppress people, then they do.
There you go.
All right, The Breeze says, I don't know, The Breeze job application.
Remember when you said you would read people's application if they sent you $50?
No.
That was a joke.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Here's $100, so read it twice.
Love you guys.
Well, we will just search the Gmail for The Breeze.
We'll see what we can find.
ian crossland
Love.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
We got a couple more here.
EY says... What is it?
Sun Tze?
I don't know what that is.
ian crossland
Sun Tze is Jian's son.
He was a Chinese warlord from the Wu Province, Southeast China.
tim pool
Sun Tze?
Well, he's not speaking Chinese or whatever.
He's saying Sun Tze, and then there's like... I don't understand.
ian crossland
S-U-N-C-E.
tim pool
No.
unidentified
Nope.
ian crossland
Different Sun Tze.
Sun Tze.
tim pool
Julie Simone says, thanks for bringing Cassandra back.
I get her passion for West Virginia.
I recently relocated from CA to Florida and feel the same.
The level of personal respect for people in Florida is so refreshing after seven years in California.
Awake, not woke.
Hi, Ian.
ian crossland
Hi.
tim pool
There you go.
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah, that's awesome.
Congratulations on getting out of there.
I lived in California for a decade and I would never want to go back.
tim pool
Goosey Goose has an idea for merch.
Don't tread on me, but with baby chickens instead of snake.
Also, hello, Cassandra.
Keep it the good fight.
Your friend, Goose.
ian crossland
That'd be great.
Little chicks.
Don't tread on me, one of them says.
tim pool
I think it should be a goose attacking somebody.
That'd be awesome.
Gooses are nuts.
Yeah, they're crazy.
When I was... I can't remember the name of the park in California.
ian crossland
Echo Park?
tim pool
No, the one that's off of Wilshire.
Close to, um... East over there, yeah.
Yeah, it's east.
ian crossland
It's named after a soldier, right?
tim pool
Is it MacArthur?
ian crossland
Grant Park?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Oh, it is MacArthur, yeah.
I think MacArthur Park, yeah.
tim pool
There's a bunch of crazy geese, and they are MASSIVE, and they harass you.
They go, arrr, arrr, and they chase after you, and you're like, get outta here!
And they'll peck at you, and like, gimme food!
ian crossland
They charge you, yeah.
cassandra fairbanks
I'm terrified of birds.
Except for chickens.
I can deal with chickens.
ian crossland
We probably killed off all the geese that could fly, because those things are nasty.
They could fly at you.
cassandra fairbanks
They're all food.
tim pool
Alright, we'll just do a couple more here.
Sunny James says, I literally watched a Reuters article edited like three times.
The unvaccinated fear exclusion.
They think they edited the title.
I swear the original I watched says those on the green passport are told what they can and cannot do.
I saved it before RT Reuters edited.
You can go to archive.is and drop a link and it'll clone the website archiving it for basically ever.
And that's one thing you can do if you're trying to track these changes.
Z McKnight says, I am also from Southside, Richmond.
The city isn't growing, and that's why I left.
The leadership isn't good in the River City.
That's a bummer, man, when these cities are falling apart because, you know, you get bad leadership because people, you know, many people aren't paying attention.
Bad leadership comes in, destroys a city.
Good people leave, and the city keeps falling in a downward spiral.
It's a brain drain.
ian crossland
I love studying history for that reason.
Like, civilizations are so transient.
There's never been one that's lasted more than, I don't know, a couple thousand years that we know of.
tim pool
Well, they will break apart and then reform under similar names or the same groups.
ian crossland
I'll put myself in the mind of an Athenian looking at the beautiful towers and structures and thinking, this is the greatest that's ever come and it will never end because it's so great.
And then it would just get wrecked by an external military, by a plague, by an earthquake.
None of this is forever.
tim pool
All right, last super chat.
The most important.
Path of Resilience says, geese are essentially cobra chickens.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
And there it is.
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Cassandra, do you want to shout anything out?
cassandra fairbanks
Yeah, I'm on Parler at Cassandra.
I'm on Telegram, Gab, Twitter, you name it.
If you want to come yell at me or be angry or... At Cassandra Rules or Cass Rules.
At Cassandra Rules on Twitter and on Gab, I believe.
And on Parler, it's just Cassandra.
But yeah, come say hi.
ian crossland
Do you have a video channel?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Where you make videos?
I'd love to watch that.
tim pool
Well, we're going to do this cults and conspiracies with Cassandra.
ian crossland
I like it.
Hey guys, thank you for everything.
I'm Ian Crossland and you can follow me at iancrossland.net and bounce around all my social networks from there.
lydia smith
I am Sour Patch Lids on Twitter and Real Sour Patch Lids on Instagram where I do my little nightly show after where I talk about what we talked about on the show.
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