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Timcast IRL - Biden Gaffe Laden Press Conference Unsurprisingly Defended By Media w/TheQuartering
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tim pool
you Joe Biden press conference finally happened, and I have to
wonder how much anyone really It was exactly as we thought it would be.
He gaffed, he said some really weird things, his brain stopped working halfway through, and then the media came out and defended him.
And so I guess we're going to end up talking a little bit about this, but we'll talk a bit more about some other cultural, political issues.
This is crazy.
You guys know who Emily Ratajkowski is, I think her name is?
She's in that video.
She's that model and she always just gets naked.
She has this article where she talks about how she despises the fact that her baby is a white man
and that she looks at her husband sleeping in his bed and she just hates him
because he's a white man sleeping peacefully.
We got some stuff to talk about. We'll definitely get into it.
Apparently, Disney Plus, I guess The Mandalorian's ratings tanked.
That's what they're reporting now, because after they kicked off Gina Carano.
And they're accusing her of saying a bunch of things she didn't say.
So we're gonna go through this stuff, and we'll start with good ol' Joe Biden, what's going on with him, because this is actually pretty funny.
Joining us today, of course, is none other than The Quartering.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Come on, man.
Glad to be here.
Really, really glad to be in the Beanie, multi-million dollar Beanie compound with not one, but two skate parks and just a lot of, a lot of interesting things around here.
I'm glad to be here.
tim pool
A lot of weird stuff.
Like the hour pillow over there, a burlap sack with packing peanuts in it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Look, I thought that was a... I thought this was like a gift bag item.
I get to take that, right?
tim pool
No, no.
We can make you one.
We can make you an official art pillow bag.
You can make me one.
I love how you mentioned the beanie camp, because there was that smear piece, I won't get too much into, where they're like, you know, people are scared to go to Tim Pool's house because he has guns.
And I'm like, we have a guest every single day.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm scared.
They're right.
They're everywhere.
I went to the bathroom.
tim pool
There was one in the toilet.
jeremy thequartering hambly
In the... yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's just, like, in there.
tim pool
The toilet was the gun.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
tim pool
And he almost said it, and we were like, whoa, whoa, that's actually not a toilet.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
I didn't know.
They've come a long way.
Yeah.
tim pool
You're, like, walking down the stairs, and then there's, like, a latch right above, and you pull it, and it's just a... it's like... it's like watching one of those action movies with Bruce Willis, you know, and there's, like, guns hidden everywhere.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, you must have got a lot of money invested in razor wire, too, because there's some serious security around here.
tim pool
The hyenas, I think, are really keeping this place safe.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're cute.
tim pool
The hyenas everywhere.
Well, we don't feed them so that they're particularly ravenous.
That way, stay away from my house.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Anyway, well, thanks for hanging out, Jeremy.
We got Ian Eastchillin.
ian crossland
Oh, hello, everyone.
Ian Crossland.
What up?
lydia smith
And also me in the corner is going to be a great show.
We love having Jeremy here with all our hyenas.
tim pool
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jeremy thequartering hambly
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
You know where my head just went right there?
unidentified
Where'd your head go?
lydia smith
Where?
jeremy thequartering hambly
You guys are all old enough, I think.
Maybe Lydia isn't.
Remember Wayne's World, where Danikari's sitting back in his hockey gear with the Reebok stuff and he's like...
Man, it's like people only do stuff because they get paid.
tim pool
Yeah, it's true.
Well, look, if we want to keep this show running, then membership has become the core function of this business.
I mean, YouTube's unreliable.
People are getting purged.
Ad rates and viewership's going down for everybody.
But I want to create something that is its own brand, that you come to this website, kind of like, you know, our own smaller independent version of a Disney Plus or a Hulu.
So I'm actually talking to some comedians.
jeremy thequartering hambly
With less slave labor.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Well, actually, none.
Zero?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Zero.
ian crossland
Only robots.
tim pool
That's right.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
We've actually found a way to not have slavery.
Like, you know, Disney couldn't figure it out, but we did.
So, uh, so yeah.
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So that's all thanks to you guys, you wonderful members.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Powered by membership.
ian crossland
Have you done a membership service yet?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I do.
I just started one.
And yeah, it is.
I mean, I kid, but it is super important.
Yeah, even like the small membership is infinitely more helpful than even YouTube ad rev.
So, yeah, I mean, if you're not already backing me and you have a few extra dollars, I would recommend considering going.
tim pool
We're going to build something massive in five years.
In five years, I think we'll be I'll just I'll keep I'll keep I'll keep some some some humility for a second.
But no, like, I think we're going we're going places.
ian crossland
I think so, too.
I mean, we have the architecture of minds behind it.
It's so much is already in place.
tim pool
We've got a lot of stuff we're gonna make.
We've got a lot of people who are interested in doing it.
The opportunity is there.
And because we have these members supporting us, we have the ability to do things these big networks can't do because they're scared of losing advertisers.
We're not.
But let's make fun of Joe Biden!
ian crossland
Come on!
tim pool
My friends, you may have seen the press conference with Joe Biden.
It was particularly boring.
He called mostly on favorable press.
He didn't ask a single, uh, he didn't, he didn't ask a single conservative, you know, to speak at this, at this press conference.
And he had your very obvious guests.
At one point, someone asked him a question about how to solve problems.
And he's like, you know, we got to do, we got to work on is very in, uh, okay.
Whatever.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And it was just basically shot for shot.
That's that's exactly how I remember it.
Just stop.
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was like, Whoa, like the dude just stopped talking dead.
And then like his brain just, just misfired.
And what's funny is all of these journalists started saying like they were defending him.
So I put out these very, um, powerful and profound tweets where I was like, Joe
Biden's strength is exactly what we need.
He is the champion we elected.
I'm like, the dude literally just stopped talking because his brain didn't work.
And there are actually journalists defending him, but you know who isn't defending him?
ian crossland
Kamala Harris.
tim pool
Snopes.
ian crossland
Oh, what'd they say?
tim pool
Here we go.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They did get him.
tim pool
I love it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They got him.
They got him, yeah.
tim pool
From Snopes, fact check.
Now, hold on.
There's a lot of people who might not understand the context of why it's funny that Snopes is fact checking this.
It's because, like, Snopes fact checks the stupidest way possible.
There'll be a story, right?
Let's say, you know, Jeremy, one day, you know, you're the host of The Quartering and you do cultural commentary.
So there's a lot of lefties.
They don't like you.
Let's say one day you ran into a burning building and saved a box of puppies.
And with a great risk to yourself.
And then everyone starts congratulating you.
jeremy thequartering hambly
As they should.
tim pool
Snopes is the kind of outlet that would say, did Jeremy Hambly actually run into a burning building to save puppies?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Were the puppies actually racist?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
They'll say, did Jeremy Hambly actually run into a house to save a box of small puppies?
While wearing Nikes.
And then they'll say false.
And then they'll say, while it's true he did run in the burning building to save the puppies, he wasn't in fact wearing those shoes.
That way what they do is, the headline has the big false next to it.
They add something to the story that makes the whole story false even though it's 99% true.
ian crossland
Snopes does that?
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
There was one recently, I can't remember what it was.
It was like, did, oh yeah, I remember.
Did Ocasio-Cortez exaggerate her, you know, her fear from the Capitol?
False.
While she wasn't in the building when the storming happened, and she was in a different building at a different time, she did say, like, it's like, they just play that game, right?
Check this out.
Did Biden say, I came into the US Senate 120 years ago?
unidentified
That's 1901.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I believe it.
tim pool
I believe it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You're telling me that's not true?
tim pool
Well, so well, no, no, Snope says it's true.
The remark in question came during his first news conference of the new administration, rating True!
Joe Biden said, with regard to the filibuster, I believe we should go back to the position of the filibuster that existed just when I came to the United States Senate 120 years ago.
You know what I love about this though?
Look at this.
This is what they say.
You see how they defend this guy?
Look at this.
We have this tweet here.
or simply making a joke.
You see how they defend this guy?
How they, oh, look at this.
We have this tweet here.
If he misspoke.
Zach Smith on Twitter, who just seems to be a regular guy, noticed this trend and Lydia
noticed this as well.
Yeah.
He tweeted, I like how Twitter is saying that Biden was joking about him saying he's been
in the Senate for 120 years.
Biden smiles when he jokes.
He said that with a stern face.
He really thinks he's been in the Senate for 120 years and Twitter is trying to tell you he was joking.
Look at this.
United States Trends.
It says, Senate 120, in his bid to bring back the former filibuster format, President Biden jokingly said, we should go back to a position of the filibuster that existed just when I came into the Senate 120 years ago.
It wasn't a joke.
There was no joke.
Like a joke would be like, if he was like, he would have said something like, oh geez, you know, back when I came in, we didn't even have the filibuster.
Cause that was what?
200 years ago.
I'm kidding.
unidentified
I'm kidding.
tim pool
But you know what I mean?
Come on, man.
It's a joke.
You know, he wasn't joking.
How is he joking?
ian crossland
Well, it was like, I've been in the Senate for a long time, ha ha ha.
tim pool
But 120 years is a specific number.
I know.
It's just a bad joke.
He would have been like, you know, we could go back to the way the filibuster was when I went in, you know, 100 plus years ago, and then it would have been like, ha ha, you know, that fell flat.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's impossible, hear me out, that Joe Biden may be A vampire.
He may actually be 140?
tim pool
If he was a vampire he could theoretically be 500.
That would imply that he got bitten when he was in his 70s.
That's unfortunate.
Because you know when you turn into a vampire you stay the same age forever?
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's a bummer.
ian crossland
I was thinking yesterday if you eat meat and you think you're not a vampire That is.
Good point.
tim pool
We're not drinking blood, dude.
You don't, like, grab the pig and drink its blood or something.
ian crossland
There's blood in that meat.
tim pool
You don't?
Look, look.
ian crossland
You don't?
tim pool
I tweeted.
I tweeted when I saw this.
I was like, all across the country, lizard people conspiracy theorists spit their doers onto their screen and were like, I knew it!
ian crossland
First thing I thought.
tim pool
Yeah, but he's not going to actually say Joe Biden's an immortal lizard person, you know what I mean?
lydia smith
Highlander.
jeremy thequartering hambly
How could you know that?
ian crossland
Is he trolling us?
Has Biden been trolling us this whole time?
He's going to troll you in the chocolate factory?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I can see it.
tim pool
He walks forward in the press conference and falls down and then springs up.
ian crossland
Because we already think he falls.
We're afraid that he's going to get hurt.
tim pool
That was a joke I was making during the campaign that Joe Biden was only pretending to be incapable of doing his job so that, you know, like throughout the debates, he's fumbling and stumbling and struggling to walk and slipping.
And then finally, when it comes to the final debate with Trump, he staggers out, falls down, but then springs up like Willy Wonka and stuns the whole world.
And that gives him the new cycle, so he wins.
The only problem is he's won and he's still doing it.
So that theory is out the window.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's the long play, man.
Did you see they were already asking him if he's going to rerun?
He's been the president for like a month.
I'm like, are you going to rerun?
He's like, well, of course.
Come on, man.
As a quote, if you run again, will you take Campbell Harris?
unidentified
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Like he's been the president for like a month and a half and they're already like, no, but here's the funny thing.
tim pool
Can we replace you with the funny thing about this press conference?
When I think it was, I don't remember who asked him if he was going to run again.
He said it was his expectation.
How was it even a consideration?
Every president, like going back decades, has run for a second term.
Go make a hundred plus years or whatever.
They've always tried to get, since FDR I guess, that's when we got the two-term limit.
But they've always said, I'll run for re-election.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You don't always win.
He's a big believer in fate.
He's a big believer in fate.
And he's willing it to be.
tim pool
What I'm saying is, think about how weird it is.
We're at a point where we're arguing about whether or not he will run when every other president did. You know what I mean? The fact that Biden is actually
in this position where it's questionable whether he will is scary to us. The dude was talking and
then just stopped and then went, whatever. Dude, he's haggard. He's like, he lost. He just
like just lost it. And now they're like, are you going to run for president again?
You know what the journalists are actually asking him.
Are you okay?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Are you going to pass the torch?
tim pool
No, they're saying, are you okay?
Like the dude just gaffed in ridiculous ways.
And they were like, are you going to run for office again?
ian crossland
They asked him in that same conference.
tim pool
Yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, multiple ways too.
It was funny.
Yeah, it was really insulting and I loved it.
I don't think I've seen a president on a podium with more notes.
First of all, I don't know what's on them, but every reporter that came up, in my opinion, my guess is it was the reporter, their political background, exactly what question they're going to ask, and the answer.
because I agree who's next no no okay so and so and then put it down so we already know that
tim pool
reporters were complaining Jen Psaki who's the the press secretary that's that's a right press
secretary yeah that's correct she had requested questions in advance so when Biden's like looking
through his folder and he goes oh we got here um Janet It was bad.
And then he's looking down, she asks the question, and then he goes,
wait one second, and then he like folds the paper and goes, we got a fight and like he's got the answers written down.
ian crossland
Oh my God.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, it was bad.
It was very obvious.
And you know what's reading it off and whatever was on that paper.
tim pool
I think when he just was talking someone asked him a question.
He tried.
I think that's when he tried.
You know what I mean?
Like, here he is, he's got all the answers in front of him, and they're going, just stick to the prompter.
Stick to the prompter.
Reminds me of, uh, uh, Iron Man.
Remember that?
At the end of the movie?
When they're like, just stick to the cards.
And then he, like, stops and looks down.
I am Iron Man.
Like, Joe Biden tried to do that, but he doesn't have, like, the wherewithal to actually say words without a card in front of him or a teleprompter.
So he's like, they're like, just stick to the cards, and he goes, Come on, man!
jeremy thequartering hambly
He had a couple of those really awkward meltdowns.
I know there's more in the press conference we want to talk about, but the one that really stuck out to me was the one that ended it.
He was talking and then he just like shut down and he's like, all right, that's it.
And then just like left the stage.
I was like, somebody, it was like, somebody got in his ear like, all right, Joe, time to go to bed.
Sun's getting low now.
tim pool
The Black Widow walks in.
unidentified
It starts getting real low, Joe!
tim pool
So, uh, no, it was actually kind of funny when he ended it.
He just, like, he's not with it, man.
He was like, alright, but now I'm gonna go, thanks.
And then just turns and walks off.
Just walked away.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It was like he pooped his pants.
He didn't know what else to say.
So he's like, I gotta get out of here.
And he just ran off the stage.
tim pool
Didn't that happen with Nadler?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
unidentified
He like wobbled away or something and people were like, what just happened to that dude?
tim pool
I don't know if that's a true story.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's pretty obviously a load.
tim pool
All right.
But let's, let's, let's talk about political bias real quick.
Cause we have this tweet that Lydia pulled up from Jennifer Rubin.
And do you know who she is?
She's a Washington Post columnist and she's supposedly a conservative, but she only ever praises Democrats.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And I'm like, Oh, there's one of those on every network though, and there's one, you know.
tim pool
Right, right.
So she tweets this story, opinion, Biden excels at his first news conference.
The media embarrassed themselves.
I love it.
The media embarrassed themselves?
First of all, I've been saying that for four years.
lydia smith
Yeah, first of all.
tim pool
So finally, thanks for joining the club.
But come on, listen.
I got no problem criticizing Trump if he deserves to be criticized when he was president.
The problem was people like Rubin and the media apparatus and these corporate powerful interests were like, you know, Trump walks out on stage and waves and they're like, Trump literally just did a Nazi salute.
It's like, he's just, he's waving to the crowd.
Dude, chill out.
That didn't happen.
Now you have Joe Biden.
And I said, it was boring.
It wasn't the apocalypse, but he did have these gaffes.
We expected them.
And now they're like, no, it was the best conference ever.
And it's the media's fault.
These people have their noses so far up Joe Biden's ass.
Well, they're coming out his mouth.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, Twitter had top trending was like, did Joe?
And then I was like, oh, what's this?
Like, I was thinking it was like, did Joe really say that?
But no, it was all like, did Joe just conduct the most professional press conference ever and not insult any journalists and say anything misogynistic?
And I was like, look, OK, Yes, he stood up there and he said some things, but, and to be fair, they did ask him about the, uh, they hit the unaccompanied, unaccompanied minors thing a couple of times.
My favorite Joe, Joe gaffe was him saying, well, I never said for them to come here.
I've never said that.
I've been saying now is not a great time to come to America, but.
I'm not going to leave him starve on the border like Trump did.
tim pool
Nah, he lied.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Of course he lied.
unidentified
He was like, nothing's changed. The truth is nothing's changed. The numbers are the same.
tim pool
So I pulled up CNN of all sources.
And CNN was like, it is true. The peak was during Trump and we're nowhere near those levels.
And it showed something really interesting. The moment Joe Biden assumed office,
the number of unaccompanied minors skyrockets from its lowest point in 10 years to its highest
point in the past 40. Well, to its second highest point in the past 10 years.
jeremy thequartering hambly
A journalist actually said that to him though. She said, I interviewed a nine year old whose mother told me that she
sent him unaccompanied and he walked all the way from Honduras by himself because mama told him
that Papa Joe would not turn him away.
And then Joe basically said, well, I'm not going to let him starve.
So essentially, he was confirming the message that he's not going to send them away.
But earlier in the press conference, he said, oh, we sent the vast majority of these people back, which was utter baloney.
tim pool
Yeah.
Since he came in, he rescinded a bunch of Trump's rules.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The migrant protection protocols, they called it, Remain in Mexico policy, I'm pretty sure
he ended that, which is now resulting in people getting hotel rooms.
So like the Biden administration spent $86 million putting illegal immigrants in hotel
rooms.
Listen, man, I love humans.
I want these people to live rich, full lives.
What Biden is doing is not going to accomplish that.
It's going to serve the interests of major corporations and multinational industries that want cheap, surf labor from people who don't have rights in this country, don't have access to, like, healthcare, don't have minimum wage protections.
And then what happens is these companies exploit this labor.
None of us like that.
We want people who are in this country legally and properly to have access to these jobs to work hard and succeed.
And that includes immigrants who come in the right way.
It includes asylum seekers.
But what they've done with the Democratic Party, with people like Joe Biden, is they've made it either you let them in, wandering through the desert, sent off to who knows where, or you're racist.
Like, you're a bigot.
You hate people.
It's like, no, dude, listen.
They come to the border.
They say, here's my case.
We can only let in certain amounts of people because we don't have an infinite, like, we don't have replicators like in Star Trek or anything.
But they don't want you to understand that resources are finite.
And you have a lot of these people on the left claiming scarcity ended a long time ago.
It's just not true.
We don't want carbon emissions to rise, so we don't want more people coming into this country, right?
Nah, they don't agree with that either.
It's like, you're the ones who say, we produce too much carbon.
Now you wanna bring in a bunch of people to produce, like, America produces more than any of these other countries.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Not China.
tim pool
Well, for sure.
But I'm just pointing out the paradox. You know what I mean?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, you mean the countries where they're coming from.
tim pool
Yeah.
They're saying that, like, we've got all these problems.
You realize bringing all of these people in is going to result in a serf class. It's
going to result in an underclass.
They're not going to be better served. They're going to be wandering through the desert.
It's a disaster. It is. It's Biden's fault.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Did you hear how Biden said he would solve it?
He said, well, what we're going to do is we're going to put in street lights.
See, what you got to do is you got to solve why they're leaving.
And so one nation wanted streetlights and we put in streetlights and crime plummeted.
tim pool
You know what's crazy?
I heard that when they do blue streetlights, crime goes way down.
And when they do halogen, like the orange one, crime actually goes up.
lydia smith
Why?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I buy that because there's a thing with like how you color, you paint your walls and stuff like that.
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know if that's, I was just reading something about it.
Cause like, you know, you know, like when you're walking through a city and the lights are kind of orange, they switched them to once switched to like blue and white lights, like colder, you know, tones and then crime dropped.
lydia smith
Interesting.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That should just be a law then.
Oh, they should all be that color.
Okay.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
They should strobe.
They should flash.
They should flash all colors of the rainbow.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Disco techs everywhere.
tim pool
Everywhere.
And that'll, that'll, that'll deal with it.
lydia smith
Yeah, hey, so before we move on, I just wanted to say about the Jennifer Rubin thing.
The byline on her article says, reporters have shown why these events are an utter waste of the president's time.
You see what they're doing here, right?
You completely get it.
She wants to be done with these pressers because they're so utterly humiliating.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Stop holding my president to any standards.
lydia smith
Exactly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Stop it.
lydia smith
Boom, done.
tim pool
Donald Trump, we threw him in the garbage chute.
unidentified
Joe Biden, don't you dare talk about Joe Biden.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's right next to Jesus Christ.
tim pool
You know what the reality is, though?
These people desperately need Trump back.
So some people may have noticed.
I saw some people in chat and they were like, Tim's going to be on Fox News in an hour.
And I'm like, no, I was on Fox News 20 minutes ago.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I saw it happen.
tim pool
So that was actually, I was on Fox News an hour ago.
And one of the things we talked about was Donald Trump launching this new social network.
We have the story here from Axios.
unidentified
Scoop!
tim pool
Trump in talks with upstart apps about new social network.
And so, I'm talking to the guys at Fox, and they're like, you think they're gonna- they nuked Parler, right?
They destroyed Parler, and it was very obvious that it was coordinated.
Do you think they're going to nuke Donald Trump's new platform?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
You think they're not going to?
tim pool
I think they're not going to.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm on team Ian here.
ian crossland
Is it a proprietary software?
tim pool
You think they're going to?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't think it'll ever get off the ground.
I think he's toxic.
He can't.
He can't be involved in it.
tim pool
You know why I disagree?
The media needs Trump.
Their ratings are in the gutter, their revenue is trash, and they're freaking out about it, and they're trying to find a villain.
CNN's like, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and everyone's like, who?
jeremy thequartering hambly
They got Ted Cruz.
tim pool
Tucker Carlson!
And everyone's like, I don't watch Fox.
CNN's struggling to find their villain.
If Donald Trump launches this new app, they're gonna be like, wait, wait, wait, Oh no!
Oh, Trump!
unidentified
Oh jeez!
jeremy thequartering hambly
How can we have stopped this?
tim pool
But it's a free country!
Oh man, we better write about every single thing he says again!
ian crossland
But Google and Apple don't need him.
unidentified
They won't shut the gates.
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised if what happens next is that they start claiming it's wrong of Google and Apple to censor.
It's too far.
As much as we don't like the president, it's too much.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Did you see Bernie do it?
Bernie came out and he was like, actually, I don't like, but like four months before, he was like basically advocating for his deplatforming.
unidentified
Demanding it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
unidentified
We gotta get rid of this guy.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And then I saw certain people who shall remain unnamed being like, ah, I knew my backing Bernie was good.
I'm like, uh, is this you bro?
Like Bernie, like literally demanded it.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying, dude.
They're realizing they've lost their villain.
They need a villain.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Tucker's not good enough.
tim pool
He's not.
Tucker, it's like, He's one guy with an opinion.
And they're like, but he's spreading misinformation.
But he's not the president.
He's not in government.
He just talks about stuff people don't care.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But Trump doesn't need to have a social network to be that guy.
He just needs to be on one.
Exactly.
So like, in my opinion, I like Trump dot social would be a disaster.
tim pool
Is that what they're calling it?
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, I don't know.
I mean, Trump puts his name on everything.
So I would assume it would be like TR dot MP or whatever he would do.
It would be awful.
But what he could do is he could, you know, Parler's, in my opinion, basically dead.
tim pool
Trump's face.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, Trump's face.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he could buy Parler.
All he has to do is join it, though.
He doesn't need to spend a dime.
He just has to join it and 20 million people will follow.
And he didn't do it.
tim pool
And he knows that, but he won't do it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He knows it because he knows he's worth money.
He's a businessman.
tim pool
And so he's thinking, I'll do my own thing and I'll own it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but I mean, he's got that buddy Lindell who's got a ton of money.
tim pool
I mean, Trump's a billionaire.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, I don't even know if that's enough money to start one and go against Silicon Valley right now.
tim pool
It is.
He could do it.
Listen, with the Fediverse, you're familiar with the Fediverse?
Trump could easily create an open source Fediverse app.
Boom.
Trump space.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Does he have the people around him though?
Because this is the guy that said ban Section 230.
tim pool
Repeal Section 230.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Repeal it.
That showed me he didn't know what the frick he was talking about.
Like, does he even have people around him?
Because if he had good people around him, he would have joined Parler.
tim pool
That was, it was really frustrating to me.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Or Mines, yeah.
Or, I mean, yeah, I'm not going to mention the other one.
There's another one he could have joined too.
tim pool
Oh, Gab?
The Section 230 thing was interesting because a lot of conservatives were basically saying, I don't care if Donald Trump nukes social media and destroys it for everybody, because we're already getting suppressed anyway.
And I'm like, that's not what would happen.
If you get rid of Section 230, then Facebook goes, Oh no!
Oh, they've got rid of... Oh geez, what do we do?
I guess we can only just choose to curate our platforms.
Here are the far leftists we think are good for you.
Then you'd get ten channels.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Would have gotten a hundred times worse.
tim pool
Yeah, a hundred times worse.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You're right.
tim pool
Any semblance of any conservative value, moderate or traditional liberal, would be purged.
And it would be hardcore socialist woke ten-year-olds or whatever.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But do you know what my, mini rant incoming, sorry, but my number one most disappointing thing about the Trump presidency is not that he didn't deliver on several things that he promised, because every president doesn't do that.
Like his wall thing was never going to happen.
tim pool
I think he did deliver on the wall.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, if he had four more years, he might have been able to really see it through.
But the fun, regardless.
tim pool
They built secure bollard fencing in key areas, and that satisfied Trump supporters.
Not me, though.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Not me.
I wanted it, like, full turrets.
tim pool
Alligators and moats.
They accused Trump.
This is the stupidest story ever.
They were like, Trump asked for moats with alligators.
I'm like, No, he didn't.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
If you believe that, I got a bridge to sell you.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but he had four years to worry about social media.
And I'm bringing Ted Cruz here, too.
These dudes, we all... I'm not talking about the people in this room, but I've fallen for it, too.
Where I'm like, yeah, Ted Cruz, take it to Jack Dorsey in these Zoom meetings.
And then they don't do anything!
And then Trump had four years, and then when he realized he was going to lose the election, suddenly he remembered about reforming Section 230.
It was too damn late.
tim pool
He had bad people around him.
It was like, I guess Kushner was saying, don't join these other websites.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I heard that he had shut down Gab, I think he was enjoying one other site, and Kushner was like, no, I don't care.
tim pool
Parlor, I think.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's like, I don't wanna do that.
Remember he got all those tech guys together, and he was like, I'm gonna form a technology unit in the White House, and Elon came for like three days and was like, I'm outta here.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right, he's like, what am I even doing?
Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
tim pool
I said it, man, the Republicans were too stupid to solve this problem to save their own careers.
And then they ended up losing in 2018, and they gained some back in 2020, but this was one of the biggest plays.
If you lock everybody in their homes, so they can't go to the bar, they can't go to the store, they can't go out, and then the only place they can interact with people is on social media, but the social media companies have excised half of the country's political opinions, you are forcing people down a very narrow path where the only interactions they have with people are based on their ideologies.
I agree.
You know, you combine the censorship with the pandemic and it was the perfect storm to purge
conservatives. And I think Trump could have, I think Trump would have gotten 85 million votes
if in 2016, when the news was starting to come out, if they actually started taking action in 2018,
when the stories went huge. When I'm sitting there with Jack Dorsey, if Trump just paid
attention and said, do this now, then it would have been inversion.
It would have been Trump 80 million, Biden 74.
But instead, a lot of people, because remember that guy, what was his name?
Robert, was it Robert Epstein?
Is that his name?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
The researcher.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
He said, Google.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Unfortunate name.
tim pool
He said, there's a lot of people whose name is Epstein.
But he said Google is directing people to news, and they are flipping millions of votes from Republican and Democrat by what they're showing people.
And he's like, I have the data.
And still after these hearings, you know what?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Meh, we'll just fine you with an FCC.
tim pool
No, no, no, like, it's hard.
I'll give a shout out to Ted Cruz because he's doing more than literally anyone else.
But then I'll slam him for just like...
What are you doing?
ian crossland
They don't have a plan.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, they're grandstanding.
And I was talking about this earlier.
My my concern is that the government, you know,
and I may be uneducated on this. I might be the one thing I
don't know everything about.
But like just one thing.
Yeah.
But like the FCC will hit them with like what?
Five hundred million of fines.
Where does that money go?
Right.
Like so the government milks all this money out of Google and Facebook for antitrust.
Right.
But what the hell do they do with it?
It's like it's a viable income source for them, for them to exist.
It's like hush money.
tim pool
I turned on the news today and I'm watching this, you know, Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's a skinhead now.
unidentified
Shaved his head.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Confirmed neo-Nazi.
tim pool
Shaved his head.
I disagree with Jack Dorsey's, well, I don't know.
You know, I think they do this every few months where they go in there and they pretend like they care.
The politicians pretend like they care.
And then, like you said, man, people fall for it.
And they're like, Oh, look at this hearing.
And I'm like, nothing happened.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Remember Trey Gowdy?
He would go viral, like on these, on these like epic takedowns of people.
And then like, still nothing would happen.
tim pool
It's performative.
It's meant to placate and appease you while nothing gets done.
And it's been that way for a long time.
And that's why one of the reasons people like Trump, because Trump would just walk in and go, excuse me, excuse me.
No, no, I'm talking.
And they're like, finally, just do something.
Throw a pie.
I don't care.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
tim pool
It's like you see these congressional hearings, and it's like, um, we're not censoring people.
You're censoring people.
We're not censoring people.
You're censoring people.
Thank you and have a nice day.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Have a nice day.
ian crossland
They're good at calling out the problems, apparently, like Ted Cruz, all these dudes.
But they don't have a plan to, like, fix, like, replace the situation with.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They don't know what to do.
tim pool
They don't want to plan.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, they don't want to fix it.
ian crossland
They're not smart enough to or something.
tim pool
No, they don't care.
ian crossland
Like, we need a technologist in charge right now.
tim pool
I'll tell you what happens.
These Republicans?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Who's our chief technology czar?
That's a position, right?
unidentified
We have a guy?
ian crossland
Bill Ottman.
tim pool
Listen, listen, listen.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Not your czar.
tim pool
These politicians wake up, and the Democrat gets out of bed, and he goes, ugh.
He looks at his watch.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, man.
tim pool
Honey, what's today?
unidentified
You're doing the hearing with the guys from the social media!
jeremy thequartering hambly
The Googles!
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What do my...
Am I a Democrat? You're a Democrat. Oh, okay. I'm gonna pretend like they're spread misinformation
Then he gets in there goes you're spreading misinformation and then once it's all over and they hang up
So sorry to yell at you, but you understand right?
I'm gonna go order pizza and beer I can't remember what we talked about this the antitrust
ian crossland
laws don't work with Modern technology because if you break the company if you
broke Facebook up into Instagram Facebook Messenger Facebook Prime for instance and Zuckerberg still owned
Whatever 40% of each company He's still gonna have the ability to make the terms of
service for each of these new companies and maintain his wealth and power
jeremy thequartering hambly
and that And in my opinion, the antitrust laws are just a revenue stream for the government.
They're not really interested in protecting the people or protecting free speech.
They're like, OK, the EU hit Google with a 55 billion or 50 billion dollar fine a few years ago for some data.
Like they care.
Now they have so much money that it's like there's no incentive to fix the problem when you can keep printing money.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
I've got to stop you there.
The big tech companies absolutely care about the people.
With millions of dollars in their bank accounts.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, yes, right.
All seven of them.
They care about them deeply.
tim pool
But they care about people, just not you.
Not all the people.
Yeah, clearly not all of them.
jeremy thequartering hambly
If you're not making a hundred grand a year, are you really a person?
lydia smith
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
ian crossland
Not until you incorporate.
Yeah, right?
tim pool
No, but they don't even care about the people making a hundred.
Yeah, that's nothing.
Dude, no joke.
No joke.
I've heard the story over and over again.
You try calling your representative and they'll...
They'll answer if you get through, but I'll tell you this, you're worth a couple million dollars.
They'll be calling you.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yep.
That's a fact.
tim pool
That's how it works.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I will say this at the risk of, this is an unintended flex, but I have gotten calls from local politicians.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Me too.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And like, I was like, eat a dick.
You know what I mean?
Like it's just no, you know, you didn't care about me before.
My opinions haven't changed really.
In fact, they've gotten more, you know, uh, strict than they were before, but it's frustrating because you had.
Man, Parler had such a high ceiling for a week.
For a week, when they banned Trump, if Trump had anybody around him and he created an account on Parler, it would have been instantly viable, even if they got banned.
tim pool
We have new information coming out about Parler, which proves, in my opinion, alright, so I'm not saying it's literal evidence in a court of law, I'm saying, after seeing this, I am personally convinced that Big Tech colluded to destroy a competitor, period.
Check this out.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But you knew that before this, right?
tim pool
But it was like, before this, it was, I'm pretty sure that's what they're doing.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, okay, okay.
tim pool
Now, we know their entire pretext was just absolute trash.
We assumed it was.
Check this out.
The Wall Street Journal reports, Parler says it informed FBI of violent content before the Capitol riot.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Months before.
tim pool
Social media platform tells House committee has been unfairly targeted by Big Tech.
They say, Parler in December began alerting the Bureau to content suggesting the possibility of violence at the Capitol, as Congress met to confirm Biden's victory.
The company wrote in a letter to the House Oversight and Reform Committee, which is investigating Parler and its role in the siege.
The site referred a number of posts to law enforcement Including one on December 24th from a user who called for an armed force of 150,000 people to react to the congressional events of January 6th, according to the letter, which included the post and communications with FBI officials among its exhibits and has been reviewed by the Wall Street Journal.
Mic drop.
They said, Parler is hosting these dangerous people and facilitating this.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're doing nothing to stop it.
tim pool
They're doing nothing.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And the reality is, Jack Dorsey would have stopped them.
tim pool
They were doing more than Facebook does.
Because the reality is, these people were actually organizing on Facebook.
And we know it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's a fact.
tim pool
And even the Washington Post and leftists have started calling out Zuckerberg.
In fact, in the hearing today, you had one guy, I can't remember which guy it was, but he was like, Mr. Zuckerberg, do you take responsibility for what
happened or some responsibility for what happened on January 6th?
And Zuckerberg's like, it's a very complex, it's a very nuanced, and he's like, he said,
yes or no, do you take responsibility?
Jack Dorsey said yes.
I knew he would too, because that's his side.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The right answer is no, though.
tim pool
Do you take responsibility?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, of course the answer's no.
I think the answer's yes.
Because individual responsibility matters.
Like, why do these guys never push that?
That's true.
Like, just because he used my platform, that didn't make them go break the law, you know?
That should be the argument that these people are making, but Jack Dorsey, like you're right, virtue signaled, right?
unidentified
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm-a me so sorry!
You know, like, actually, I'd like to first, actually, right now, in record time, I would like to apologize for my Asian joke.
No, no, no.
tim pool
I personally requested it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Okay, thank I don't know if I'm Asian enough for them to actually Hashtag stop Asian hate that's right, but the I mean like yeah I'm not surprised but these these dudes I think they're looking at a financially like 50 million fine if I say I'm sorry 100 million fine if I say I'm not No, no one's gonna go after him, right?
tim pool
So Parler was obliterated, just absolutely obliterated.
It was nuked, it's dead, it's not coming back.
They brought it back, and the momentum is gone.
They needed to stop the growth because it was going to displace Twitter, because as more and more conservatives were leaving and joining Parler, and it was critical mass, They were gonna get to like 30 million or 40 million within a week.
But think about this.
That means on Twitter everything becomes boring.
When Trump became active in his presidential campaign, users started going up.
People started joining Twitter.
All of a sudden there was something to tweet about.
Twitter knows that they've created an addictive rage machine.
That's why they've never gotten rid of the retweet counts or follower counts.
They know what it does to people, but they want it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
How many followers did Trump have when he got, you did 80 million or 50 million?
tim pool
Yeah, 80 million something.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, so you know half of them at least, right?
No, let's say 20% of them follow him to a new platform.
Okay.
Congratulations, new platform.
You have, you know, 15 million users.
ian crossland
I just did some research on Twitter is about to use AWS, Amazon Web Service, which is what banned Parler.
They may have, but as of December.
tim pool
No, they've had a contract with them.
And that was one of the arguments that Parler was a competitor to Twitter.
Twitter signed a big deal with Amazon.
ian crossland
Twitter did.
tim pool
And they got scared.
ian crossland
In December.
tim pool
And so they were like, take Parler off your servers because they're competing with us.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
And if we lose to Parler, then you guys lose our business.
ian crossland
And Facebook's not on AWS.
They have their own infrastructure.
My server's doing it.
I imagine Google also has their own servers.
tim pool
It's remarkable.
We know what's happening, but I think the problem is we need to wake more people up to what's happening.
And the media is really good at indoctrinating people.
I suppose I should be a bit more optimistic because their ratings are in the gutter.
They're collapsing.
No, I'll tell you this.
For all you guys that are listening to this podcast, I want you to know the ratings for this show are improving.
Now, The live show isn't getting as much as it was a few months ago.
But the segments are getting more.
So I think it's an issue of people working, having different schedules, and looking for different things.
But overall, we are doing better than ever on TimCast IRL.
This is good news.
I'm optimistic.
CNN's in the gutter.
Desperate for a villain.
Our villain here is always the establishment.
So no matter what happens, we're pointing out the corruption.
But I'll tell you this.
If at any point we become that media establishment, We just have to make sure, as long as we're being the honest ones, straightforward, then that's a good thing if we become the establishment.
Right now, we're the outsiders pointing it and saying, these people are lying and cheating and stealing.
They want power.
ian crossland
We're kind of like the Sega Genesis of 1991.
You remember Sega came out and NES was killing it?
tim pool
You mean the Master System?
ian crossland
Well, no, then the Sega Genesis came out after.
After the NES, before the Super Nintendo.
tim pool
This is not a good analogy.
ian crossland
Sega collapsed.
I don't want to collapse.
But then the Super NES came out and grabbed the mainstream.
They had all the money.
Sega didn't really have the money.
But Sega was the better product, in my opinion.
I think Sega makes games now.
tim pool
That's it.
Yeah, they're on PlayStation.
ian crossland
So we're like the Sega.
tim pool
No, we don't want to be the Sega.
ian crossland
The Nintendo is the mainstream and we're coming up on it with better tech.
tim pool
We want to displace Takeover and then make GTA 5, and then once it goes live online we stop working and it just becomes the same game for 5-6 years.
ian crossland
We have to start making CD-ROMs then.
No, what we need to do is we need to- We need our own ISP.
tim pool
We need to share- yes, we need infrastructure.
Because the way they were able to blow up Parlor was by going after AWS, going after the servers.
Gab is doing all of that.
But we also need people to use these platforms.
So that means there needs to be more than just telling people we need to do it.
There needs to be an actual incentive, which is why I was talking earlier about doing shows.
Here's what I want to do.
Imagine you have media and social media all rolled into one.
Let's say we make a website where it's like we get comedians like Ryan Long, you know, to produce content.
We have original shows.
You sign up, you get access to these shows, ad-free with membership, things like that.
But then on those sites is also federated social media.
Meaning, if you log in and sign up for this website, it connects you with a social network for all these other websites, and there's an app where you can sign in and follow whoever you want.
Instead of following at TimCast on Twitter, you'd follow something like Tim at whatever.com, whatever the website is.
You'd get an account that would be like John Doe at TimCast.com or whatever, and that's what you would follow.
You'd say, oh yeah, follow my account.
I'm a member over at TimCast.
I love it.
But then you're signed into a place where you're getting content.
So we're creating an actual incentive model.
Why should someone sign up for this social platform?
Because you get great stand-up comedy, because you get great news and great documentary and great conversations.
ian crossland
And you could have an app store built into it, like a decentralized app store.
tim pool
We need a decentralized app store for sure.
They exist.
You can download other app stores.
The problem is incentive models.
People have no reason to use anything other than Google's app store.
It's just easy and everybody use it.
People got no reason to use Gab because everybody's on Twitter or Facebook.
Everybody's on Facebook.
ian crossland
It's hard to get people to do it just because it's the right thing to do or because it's moral.
It's almost like you need like a, like a, an emergency, like something to whip people into change.
tim pool
What we need to do is we need to place small pieces of candy on the road that lead to a box with a stick so that people go, ooh, piece of candy.
ian crossland
So crypto, like if you could get paid for using, like if you got paid for using an app store.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I think that's awful.
ian crossland
Well, like mines, you can stake your crypto on mines now and make crypto just by having your crypto on mines.
tim pool
I think, let's, okay, that, staking is interesting, but I'm sick and tired, I've, since Myspace, I don't know if you remember this, Jeremy, there was a website that popped up around the Myspace days that was identical, but they paid you if you used it.
And what they were doing was- Do you remember what it was called?
No, I don't remember, but they were like, you gotta use this, I remember, it was red.
And they were like, sign up for this one, because they split the ad revenue with you.
And so if you browse it, you might make like 50 to 100 bucks a month just from using the site.
And I'm like, dude, that doesn't work because people aren't attracted to the idea of a get-rich-quick scheme.
YouTube works because there's a legitimate structure.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Let me just stop you there.
Are you saying people aren't attracted to get-rich-quick schemes?
tim pool
Regular people are not going to sign up for a service.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Amway, literally every MLM ever.
tim pool
How many people are in MLMs?
jeremy thequartering hambly
What do you think?
A couple million, probably?
tim pool
It is a tiny fraction of the population.
lydia smith
People hate it.
tim pool
They are mocked, they are belittled, and no one trusts it.
So when you have a social media site, there's a bunch of these crypto sites where they're like, if you post your video here, you can earn crypto money.
And I'm like, that makes no sense.
Simply by watching it, crypto is generated.
I'm like, dude, what's backing your currency?
It's no different than fiat, in my opinion.
There's, it's just a nebulous value.
Now, Bitcoin makes sense to me for a variety of reasons.
Confidence being a big one, but the new technology.
Generating revenue because your video gets views and you can't explain to me where that value comes from and who's giving you the money for it.
unidentified
Sorry.
ian crossland
The mindset was interesting.
Today I was, I made a post on minds.
I was like, I want to spend 2.5 tokens to boost it to 2,500 people.
And I was like, I don't want to spend the tokens because they're worth 70 cents each, or whatever they are.
And I was like, ah!
tim pool
And I just did it.
ian crossland
I was like, yeah.
tim pool
Let me ask you this.
Why isn't any other video platform displacing YouTube?
ian crossland
It's simple.
tim pool
It's simple.
It's not going to.
ian crossland
It's decentralized.
Oh, displaced, maybe not.
tim pool
There's two things stopping it.
Google subsidizes YouTube's infrastructure, which is too expensive.
ian crossland
Billions.
tim pool
And then they split advertising revenue with us.
It's not possible.
ian crossland
It's a great model.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, the way it works is, let me use a little day job knowledge here.
All YouTube is, is the same thing as this.
The reason Android has phones is for what?
To serve ads.
That's the only reason Android phones exist.
Google serves ads on their phones.
Google serves ads on YouTube.
tim pool
In the Play Store, on Search.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Play Store, everywhere.
tim pool
It's to get access to attention so they can sell ads.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's about extending their network for ads.
tim pool
This is why Facebook and Google have had massive internet access projects.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
tim pool
Where they're trying, like you know they did Project Aloon, where they sent balloons up?
ian crossland
Yeah, Facebook.
tim pool
They want everyone online so they can sell more ads.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But let me try to take you back off the crypto cliff here.
Ian, help me out.
I don't think that viewing various interchangeable cryptos like fiat is great.
I think, for example, Odyssey.
I've told you offline how much I earned on Odyssey.
Do I know how it all worked?
No.
But I don't need to know how the sausage is made.
tim pool
Like an MLM?
jeremy thequartering hambly
It isn't like an MLM.
tim pool
I think so.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, I'm not investing any money.
The crypto is generated in the processor power from how I understand it, when these videos are rendered and it generates more tokens.
Ultra low IQ take.
But the thing is, If we don't back, crypto is the only viable alternative to ads.
tim pool
Let's talk about some of these like, you know, crypto generating video sites.
jeremy thequartering hambly
When they say you've earned... Is there more than just Odyssey?
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
When they say you've earned $100, okay, who gives you $100?
Like, how do you get $100 out of that?
ian crossland
Right now, they'll deposit crypto tokens in your wallet.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Right, okay, so then how do you turn that crypto into the dollars that you're going to have?
ian crossland
You go to like Metamask and then sell them, trade them for Ethereum and then go take your Ethereum to Coinbase and sell them for dollars.
tim pool
So why would someone trade for that token for speculation?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Let me tell you this.
I transferred out $44,000 in library tokens from Odyssey.
tim pool
To where?
jeremy thequartering hambly
My PayPal account.
tim pool
Who, where did the money come from?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Bittrex.
I transferred it to Bittrex, Bittrex transferred it to USD, and I got the money.
tim pool
Whose USD was that?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, people who invested in the currency, I imagine.
ian crossland
Why would they invest in the currency?
Because I bought library tokens because the token is going up in value.
tim pool
Speculation?
ian crossland
Listen, the Mines token actually has a function as well.
It's speculation and you can spend it for a thousand views.
tim pool
I'll tell you what my problem is.
Somebody makes a site where they're like, we're going to generate crypto.
And what they don't tell you is that for every crypto generated, they get a portion of it.
And all they're really doing is they're creating a Ponzi scheme.
unidentified
Sometimes.
ian crossland
Sometimes.
Not all of them.
Mines isn't doing that.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Mines doesn't do that.
I don't know about Odyssey.
tim pool
The amount of money I would get from, so I'm on, I'm one of the biggest accounts on one of these websites or whatever.
And they're like, look how much money you have in there.
And I'm like, it is a tiny fraction of what I make on YouTube.
A microscopic fraction.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But then your position is that unless it can totally replace my earnings on YouTube, it's not worth my time.
tim pool
That's not what I said.
I said this is why they will never displace YouTube.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, they don't have to displace it.
They have to take 10% of it, 15% of it.
That's the mindset you have to have.
This is incremental.
We eat their lunch.
We don't eat their dinner and their breakfast.
So you support these crypto... Look, I'm not a crypto expert.
I'm sure you can bring one on.
tim pool
If you can't tell me where your money's coming from, you're putting your eggs in a dangerous basket with no bottom.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Okay, let's talk businessman to businessman, though.
You take eight minutes to mirror your videos on Odyssey, hypothetically.
tim pool
I didn't even do it.
Somebody else did it.
All my videos just appear on there.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
I heard about that.
But let's say, hypothetically, right?
Obviously, everyone knows I don't work for Odyssey.
Odyssey doesn't pay me anything, anything, right?
tim pool
I'm on Mines, I'm on BitChute, and I'm on Odyssey.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Rumble?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I'm not on Rumble.
And Mines generates tokens, BitChute I don't believe does, and Odyssey does.
jeremy thequartering hambly
BitChute's a liable.
tim pool
And I keep getting told, I get these emails from these companies and they're like, have you looked at how much money you've already made from these sites?
And I'm like, bro, what money for who and why?
Like, are you telling me that you created a money printing machine?
That you decide how it prints money?
And then you're telling me I should trade your hot potato for cash?
With YouTube, I know exactly where the money's coming from.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You obtained zero risk, though, Tim.
tim pool
I know, so I'm signed up on these sites, and I'm like, sure, whatever.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So I logged into Odyssey, and I had 250,000 wackadoodle tokens.
I don't understand.
I don't understand crypto.
ian crossland
It's a library token.
Library's the company that owns Odyssey.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
I don't understand crypto.
And I know you should really bring a crypto expert on, because I think they would change your mind.
Because I'm ill-equipped to tell you.
tim pool
I've been following Bitcoin since 2011 and the various cryptocurrencies.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But then why would you have that opinion about library tokens, if you understand Bitcoin?
tim pool
Maybe because I know more about it than you do.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What's the next big one?
Ethereum, right?
tim pool
Ethereum is one of the most revolutionary technologies we've had in a long time.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So when I buy, when I cash out a Bitcoin, whose money is that?
tim pool
When you cash out a Bitcoin, what you're looking at with Bitcoin is, first and foremost, first and best dressed, and institutional confidence.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But whose money is that?
That's a question for the library token.
The Federal Reserve's.
tim pool
Investors.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Okay, so isn't that true for library tokens?
tim pool
Yes, the problem is... So what's the difference?
Who controls library tokens?
ian crossland
Like, who's printing them?
They might be being mined.
tim pool
I don't think they're... I'm going to avoid this for legal reasons.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Okay, fine.
tim pool
I am not talking now about any particular company.
jeremy thequartering hambly
All right, let's just talk about crypto in general.
tim pool
I know many people who are involved in cryptos.
I know Bill Ottman and Ian, for instance, and they do mines.
And I know several other high-profile computer tech specialists and hackers who told me some
of these sites are legit Ponzi schemes.
What happens is- It's probably true.
So listen, with Bitcoin.
I understand Bitcoin.
Cryptocurrency is an amazing asset.
And this is true for any, but we call them ish coins for a reason.
Ethereum and Bitcoin, in my opinion, are paramount.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Just because they're the most valuable though?
tim pool
No, absolutely not.
Ethereum is smart contracts.
It's revolutionary technology.
It allowed for the formation of ERC-20 tokens, which created websites like Odyssey's capabilities.
And they need to use the Ethereum network for these things to function.
Bitcoin can also do this kind of, But smart contracts don't work as well on Bitcoin.
ian crossland
They're updating it.
tim pool
Ultimately, they're constantly trying to update it.
Ultimately, Bitcoin was, is, digital gold, an opportunity for a hard asset that can't be replicated.
And that was the first time.
Who controls it?
A decentralized network.
I'm not worried about who's mining the tokens.
I'd like to have some.
These other companies have proprietary control in many circumstances.
Where some dude sitting in his bedroom controls what's going on, and he's funneling a bunch of tokens to himself, convincing you it's a good investment.
That way, when you produce content for his site, then all of a sudden now he says, see, it's valuable because Jeremy produces content for my site.
Then he sells out his tokens, makes a ton of money.
ian crossland
That's happened a lot.
tim pool
It happens a lot.
Especially with the ICOs, the initial coin offerings, was a whole lot of scamming going on.
ian crossland
You see it in the white papers, if you read the white papers.
tim pool
I have no problem with syncing my content to a decentralized network and a torrent network that will clone my videos, but I am not going to spend any time focusing on developing these platforms where at any moment the bottom could fall out and it's just a confidence game.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But what's your exposure?
What's your exposure if it falls out?
Is what my question is.
tim pool
If you set your business up to be on a platform, it could be your entire company.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but that's not what I'm saying.
I pull my money out, right?
Every month.
Well, not really now because I pulled out basically everything.
tim pool
It's also not easy to pull your money out.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It took me eight minutes.
tim pool
Not me.
I've had these people email me several times and they're like, you have to go through each individual video of your 3,000 videos.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yes, that happened with Odyssey with me.
I did email them and I say, What the hell?
And they unlocked it for me.
But yes, because you and I are different, we have such huge amounts, you can't just unlock them like 250,000 tokens.
I tried many times, it failed.
But I did email them and I said, you need to unlock this all.
tim pool
I have a problem with much of this cryptocurrency.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I have no crypto, by the way, so everyone knows.
I am not a crypto investor.
tim pool
Ethereum is revolutionary technology.
Bitcoin is revolutionary technology.
But Bitcoin was first in best dressed and provides a value.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What's that, 60k now?
tim pool
Well, it's been up now.
55, I think.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I have zero.
Please send me one.
tim pool
I have seen this since the dawn of crypto.
When I used to go on some of these websites and you had hundreds of what we call, you know, ish coins, SOR coins.
And many of them have gone defunct, and I've seen companies rise and fall.
So when I see a fly-by-night, hey, we cloned this protocol, we cloned this chain, join us, I'm like, why?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't disagree with you, but Library's not a fly-by-night token that's been around for several years.
tim pool
Do you know the origin of Library and their initial plans?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Nope.
tim pool
Not good.
And I had conversations with them, and then one day my account just happened to be on that platform, and I was like, I don't know why that happened.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Hey, one of your own employees put it on that, I'm pretty sure.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was one of your marketing managers.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What?
ian crossland
That's what I was told.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, I was told that.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Nothing nefarious.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't have a marketing manager or at the time or whoever it was.
I've never had someone that was working for you.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So I'll tell you, I don't want to turn this into a shilling fraud.
My apologies.
tim pool
But I'm just saying, I don't know how I ended up on that platform.
I'm not saying anything wrong.
ian crossland
There's multiple ways to make crypto.
You can mine it or you can create it.
Just create it.
And what mines did is just created them.
They're not mining them.
Yeah, but if you read the white paper, you see what they're going to do with the tokens.
They're not giving them to the executives.
A lot of companies will create them and then give 20% to the people that started it.
Those are like pump and dumps.
Those are dangerous because then they're going to try and pump the value and sell out.
Doge did that.
Tron, I would imagine.
I don't want to spit on Tron, Justin, if that's not what you're doing, but I think they did that.
One of the guys sold out on Tron.
Once what so you got to read the white paper That's the first step if you really want to know if the crypt is legit or not read the white paper And they'll tell you imagine chats going freaking bananas Also, is it tied to a value other than just?
nothing like my Original idea well like mines token you can get views on a network with it It's here was my it was my original idea.
tim pool
I talked to bill about this She's like me eight years ago.
Was it eight years ago.
It's a long time ago.
said you create a media network that people can buy tokens with. Tokens are
exchanged for advertising on the site. So imagine if in order to buy Google ads
you needed a Google token. The reason why this would work is because the
secondary value would be determined by the power of the ads not set by Google.
So what happened is you were like I want to advertise on Timcast.
All right.
Well, I say it's a hundred tokens to run an ad on Timcast.
Then you have to buy those on secondary market, or I can sell, or I can sell the ones I already have that you give me.
Let's say initially I only get a thousand views per video.
So a hundred tokens costs you a buck because you're not really going to get much for it.
Then one day it's still a hundred tokens to buy an ad.
You're getting a hundred thousand views.
Now people are trying to buy up as many tokens as possible because they know it'll get you access to a hundred thousand views and they're giving me those tokens I can sell back on the market.
It creates a secondary market for advertising buys.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Only with a fixed number of tokens.
Because the value of the tokens doesn't change if you can print them on demand.
tim pool
Only based on how much inventory you have.
So if it turns out you can get 100,000 views, but everything's constantly bought up, the value drops because nobody can buy the ad space.
So it reaches a point of equilibrium.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That doesn't limit Bitcoin because we're mining that.
tim pool
What we have now are companies who are like, you got 1,000 views!
That turned into $300!
And I'm looking at some of these networks where it's like a dude makes a video, gets 300 views, and it says it's $300.
And I'm like, dude, somebody's getting ripped off.
ian crossland
Oh, Steam.
Steam it.
tim pool
I'm not talking about anybody.
ian crossland
They ended up falling apart, Steena.
tim pool
I'm not talking about any company in specific.
ian crossland
I think they got bought up.
Their token was like $7 at one point.
jeremy thequartering hambly
My goal is just to get Tim to get less blackpilled on these alt... Here's why I stump for these various alt networks that have never made me any money, is that it costs me zero to support an alternative.
tim pool
I don't disagree with that.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, that's all I want.
That's all I want.
Plus, I think that's all I want for you, Tim.
ian crossland
I'm just saying, you're not going to see me... It's one way to get past ads.
tim pool
There are a bunch of other social networks that are like, you should join up with us and move all of your subscribers.
And I'm like, I'm going to make my own website.
I'm going to make my own website and people can sign up for that, that I can control.
No one can ban me.
There's no hidden, you know, BS behind the scenes or whatever.
And I'm going to understand what's going on and grow from there.
Too many people are trying to exploit big channels and this wave to make money.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He's right.
Yeah, they've been doing that since the beginning.
ian crossland
I used to get those emails in 2007.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Let me say this one quick thing because I know we're off the rails.
tim pool
And then we got to talk about Emily Radzikowski and her hating her own son.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yes, that's what it's about.
ian crossland
Aaron, what was that guy's video that...
I think that thing that that...
You know, with...
What?
With...
jeremy thequartering hambly
OzEcho?
unidentified
Yeah, you...
ian crossland
It's a thick, Alan Thicke.
Oh, yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What I want to say is I'm going to tell, I'm going to tell a story on the members only portion of the stream about somebody who tries to take advantage of big channels.
Somebody, everyone in this room knows you're going to get sued for it.
Nope.
unidentified
Nope.
jeremy thequartering hambly
All right.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
So yeah, it looks like we're going to have a spicy members only segment.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, we gotta talk about Emily Ratajkowski.
Great set.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Great, great set.
ian crossland
This crypto conversation's amazing, by the way.
tim pool
All right, my friends, my friends.
The first thing I want to say is that we have this story from Vogue.
Emily Ratajkowski talks about how she essentially despised her own husband and son, and it is some of the creepiest trash I've ever seen from a woke cultist.
This woman, wow, is it scary what she's saying about her own kid and the guy who gave her the kid.
Filthy.
Filthy white guy.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Thank you.
tim pool
White guy if you like Emily Radjkowski Mike more power to you. I'm not a fan
She's made a career off of like whenever some tragedy happens. She posts posting a nude and I'm like I get it
You know, thank you people like yeah, sure great like people like looking at a naked lady. I get it, but I'm just
like I'm I think it's kind of look if you want to be an
Instagram model and you know, I was in movies though Was she in a Bond film?
jeremy thequartering hambly
She's been in a few movies.
ian crossland
I saw that Robyn Thicke video and I was like, she is so hot.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Robyn Thicke, yeah.
ian crossland
Every picture I see of her, she looks miserable.
tim pool
But listen, listen, I'm trying to point out.
I got no beef.
You'd like the lady by all means.
That's your, that's your, your thing for me.
Not my thing.
That's fine.
I like the Instagram models that aren't shoving politics down my throat and telling me they hate their white husbands.
You know what I'm saying?
So like, if you want, if you want to get luck, if you want to get naked on Instagram and you want to, you know, uh, you know, post racy photos and be really sexy and all that stuff.
I enjoy it.
I love it.
The issue however is when you do it when there's like a school shooting and then you're like I'm gonna get naked
Maybe she didn't do that. I'm not saying her. I'm just giving like I'm being hyperbolic. I'm not saying she did
jeremy thequartering hambly
that I'm just pointing out the stump for a stupid Hollywood, you
ian crossland
know, so bring attention to like a tragedy They'll get naked and be like look there are a few people
tim pool
that do this matter. Yeah, exactly Yeah, and they'll do really weird, like there's... I don't even want to get into some of the creepy things some of these people do.
But check this out from Vogue.
Emily Redkowski on pregnancy and why she doesn't want to reveal the gender of her baby.
All right, well, let's read the first like, let's read the first paragraph and then I want to show you the craziest
part of this.
She says, when my husband and I tell friends I'm pregnant, their first question after congratulations is almost always,
do you know what you want?
We like to respond that we won't know the gender until our child is 18, and that they'll let us know then.
Everyone laughs at this.
There is a truth to our line, though one that hints at possibilities that are much more complex than whatever genitalia our child might be born with.
The truth that we ultimately have no idea who rather than what is growing inside my belly.
Who will this person be?
What kind of person will we become parents to?
How will they change our lives and who we are?
It's a wondrous and terrifying concept, one that renders us both helpless and humbled.
I just want to pause.
Your child becomes what you raise it to be.
When you place your child in certain environments, when you tell your child certain things, they become like you.
They imitate you.
How is it that we're in this place now where people are like, I'm going to have a kid and I have no idea what the kid will end up thinking or believing?
lydia smith
I know, right?
tim pool
So interesting how kids tend to have the same religion as their parents.
How did that happen?
Magic, I guess.
ian crossland
Why do you think Lydia?
lydia smith
It's because they're following the blank slate theory.
They're following constructivism.
And they think that everyone is born with absolutely no inclinations or tendencies and the society around them shapes them to be whatever.
tim pool
You guys ready for this?
ian crossland
Interesting.
tim pool
Here we go.
My friend who is the mother to a three-year-old boy tells me that she didn't think she cared about gender until her doctor broke the news that she was having a son.
She burst into tears in her office.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What a terrible thing.
tim pool
And then I continued to cry for a whole month, she says matter-of-factly.
After a difficult birth experience, she developed postpartum depression and decided that she resented her husband more than she'd ever imagined possible.
So I'll clarify.
I was... I misconstrued what I read earlier.
She's talking about somebody else.
So it's not her.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
She told me that she particularly hated, and she made an actual physical list that she kept in her journal, editing it daily, how peacefully he slept.
There is nothing worse than the undisturbed sleep of a white man in a patriarchal world.
She shakes her head.
It was hard to come to terms with the fact that I was bringing another white man into the world, but now I adore him and can't imagine it any other way.
She also eventually learned to love her husband again.
The sound of his perfect sleep next to her at night is now tolerable.
Oh, just tolerable!
jeremy thequartering hambly
The news will do that.
tim pool
That's so I'll clarify I was wrong. I when I first read this paragraph I
Mistakenly assumed it was coming from Emily herself She's telling us her about somebody else and I realized she
jeremy thequartering hambly
she had written this about news will do that She's probably talking about herself though
unidentified
Yeah But hold on, but hold on.
tim pool
We're not done yet.
She says, Despite my apprehensions about having a boy, when I call my best friend to tell her I'm pregnant, we both immediately agree on our shared instinct.
I'm carrying a boy.
I'm picturing a dark-haired son, my friend tells me over FaceTime.
I don't know why, I can just see it.
I nod and study the red fabric of my couch, trying to imagine a baby boy's tiny body lying next to my thigh.
I thought she said she won't know the gender of her son until it's 18.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I hate this.
tim pool
I hate all of this.
her tunes. Everyone has opinions on what to expect from a boy or a girl. Boys develop
slower. They're more work than girls as toddlers, but they love their mom so much. One friend
tells me girls mature faster, but are so sensitive. It sounds like she's talking about biological
sex differences.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It sounds like she wanted to abort her baby because it was a boy. It sounds like she at
least considered it. Like she's not talking about how difficult girls are. She's saying
that. Oh God, a boy, man. Oh man. Let's just take a couple of pills.
tim pool
When she's writing about what people say about boys and how they develop, she's criticizing the idea of biological sex differences.
She says, I don't necessarily fault anyone for these generalizations.
A lot of our life experiences are gendered, and it would be dishonest to try and deny the reality
of many of them. But I don't like that we force gender-based preconceptions onto people, let alone
I want to be a parent who allows my child to show themselves to me.
And yet I realize that while I may hope my child can determine their own place in the world, they will, no matter what, be faced with the undeniable constraints and constructions of gender before they can speak of, hell, even be born.
I don't think it's the worst article in the world, to be completely honest.
I disagree with her.
But I can respect that at least she recognizes there are some legitimate differences between boys and girls.
The problem is, there are stark differences.
It is fair, when she points out, a lot of the things we tell to our kids are based on social constructs.
This is true.
Like, you decide to give a kid certain things.
However, boys still gravitate towards certain things.
Spatial awareness type projects, construction, building, and young girls towards social.
ian crossland
Which is why they're like dolls, because it's like communication.
tim pool
I mean, boys have action figures, but they play with them differently, right?
Is it possible?
Testosterone, we know, is tied to aggression.
Prenatal testosterone is going to affect the attitudes and desires of young boys.
And not only that, but for the most part, 98.3% of boys or girls are going to gravitate towards Social things they see from boys and girls.
ian crossland
Did you guys have Micromachines?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Hell yeah, dude.
tim pool
Those are awesome.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The video game on NES is actually really good.
tim pool
Micromachines?
Where you have the little tracks and boat loops and stuff?
jeremy thequartering hambly
The boats are good, too.
ian crossland
The boats are good?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Classic.
ian crossland
You should get it.
You should try it out someday.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I think it's a gold card.
One of those rare NES, like Link had a gold card.
Or no, it was the ones that were rounded on the end.
Micromachines.
Good NES game.
ian crossland
I don't hate that.
like fast-moving of not I'm this is a gross generalization but
Shamed they give boys blue and girls pink. What's that all about?
tim pool
This is what one of the things that we talked about the other day. I don't hate that
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't hate questioning that kind of thing blue and pink Yeah, I don't hate that.
A lot of parents now do yellow, right?
tim pool
I don't know.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Or green.
tim pool
The issue is the idea that it's either completely constructivism or completely essentialism.
It's mostly essential.
It's like mostly people are, you know, boys are born and have predispositions.
ian crossland
This is like nature versus nurture.
So like you're born with a nature and then you're nurtured Mm-hmm around that genetic like there's there's lateral and Horizontal gene translation so like you're born with genes, but then your genes can change Responsive to your environment as you grow this is listen listen This is partly we talked about this, but the other day about how and I think you might agree Jeremy I'll get your opinion on this
jeremy thequartering hambly
Thank you.
tim pool
They talk about feminism, but my argument has always been that feminism absolutely has disdain for femininity.
Because they're advocating for females to adhere to traditional masculine roles.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
See what I mean?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, third wave feminism is misandry.
No, no, no, listen.
tim pool
All feminism always has been like, women should be able to do that things that men do.
It's, it's not been men should do the things that women do.
Like we mentioned this the other day, where's the narrative where it's like, men should be in the home with kids.
There is a narrative that women should be the CEOs of big companies.
There's a narrative of men can be with kids, but the traditionally feminine role and the things that we often see expressed by young girls are like shoved aside.
And, and, and, and we're told basically not to do those things.
ian crossland
That's third wave feminism?
tim pool
No, that's feminism in general.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Third wave is, to me, feminism, first and second wave, were basically that men and women are equal.
That was what I was taught growing up.
And then third wave is more like actually there's not enough women in CEO positions.
And, you know...
know, the women's soccer team who lost to a 15 year old boys team should be paid the
same as the U.S. men's.
tim pool
They should.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
If they generate as much money, they should.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Right.
100 percent.
tim pool
If they fill up a stadium, I 100 percent agree.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They do, though.
Right.
Yeah, that's it though.
No one gives a shit otherwise.
tim pool
We talked about this before, too.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Ashiza.
tim pool
We talked about this before.
That's still swearing.
Some people didn't agree, but I was like, dude, it's marketing.
If Serena Williams can generate millions of dollars in women's tennis.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She does, though.
tim pool
Absolutely.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, people pay to see her.
tim pool
And then she makes more money than the male tennis players.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Almost all of them.
tim pool
So let's have that conversation.
Like, how much does Serena make compared to how much some of these men make?
And should they complain about it?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Men don't complain.
Who's the biggest male tennis player right now?
Federer?
ian crossland
Is it Federer?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Come on, he's a hundred.
ian crossland
Roger Federer?
tim pool
He's a hundred?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, give me like a real number.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know anything about tennis.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Exactly.
tim pool
The only thing I know is Serena Williams, man.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right, me too.
tim pool
She's a superstar.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
Oh, what's the hot blonde?
I mean, the traditionally attractive blonde.
I don't know.
Traditionally attractive blonde.
Yes, you do.
tim pool
I don't know their names, dude.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Uh, Nat, Nat, uh, Nat, Nana to Lova.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She was never very good at tennis, but she generated a lot of money cause
she was smoking hot by traditional standards.
I don't think she was attractive, but I don't know what that is.
Blame Martina.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
tim pool
I know.
What's her name?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Megan Rapinoe, the soccer player, the pink haired feminist soccer player that whines about gender wage gap.
tim pool
She was in the White House this week talking about wage gap stuff.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
If it's true that they're selling out stadiums and they're not the same, they're not.
They're not.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, they're not selling jerseys.
They're not.
Because really, when you look at sports, especially now in a post coup era, you're not even putting butts in seats anymore.
unidentified
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You're selling jerseys, you're selling digital game passes.
NFTs.
Ian, somebody has to explain those to me after.
unidentified
All right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Well, I think we already did a crypto show.
lydia smith
I think we did.
tim pool
But yeah, so my argument is simple.
If they sell the tickets, then they should negotiate better contracts.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I agree with you, but they don't.
tim pool
And so when they come out and they're like, this is sexism, I'm like, well, dude, you negotiated the contract.
So negotiate a different contract.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, haven't we won this argument?
tim pool
It's not a... No, no, you don't understand.
There are people in media who lie, who are dumb, and there are dumb people who believe the lies.
ian crossland
The dumbness constantly cycles back forever.
You'll always be witnessed for it again.
jeremy thequartering hambly
For the last 10 years, my dunk arm is sore.
It's like, it's not a wage gap, my friends.
It's an earnings gap.
tim pool
Between all men and all women.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
tim pool
Not between a single man and a single woman.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And you know if a man makes more money than a woman for doing exactly the same job, it's illegal.
Nobody wants to hear that.
Like, show me a man doing the same job as a woman, where the woman makes less, and I will agree.
Who always says that?
Is that a Rubinism?
No, Shapiro does that.
Does what?
Show me a woman who makes less money than a man for doing the same job, and we will agree.
But if you don't, it doesn't exist because it's illegal.
No, it exists.
tim pool
The issue is that it's based on contract negotiations.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And this is what we just found.
On the whole.
On the whole.
ian crossland
Right.
Women tend to be not as aggressive, according to Peterson.
tim pool
It's not just that.
It's that it's almost like guys don't care.
They're willing to take bigger risks.
This is a fact.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's called testosterone.
tim pool
It is.
And so it means a guy sits down for a job interview and he goes, I want a hundred grand.
And he goes, well, we can't afford to pay a hundred grand.
Well, then you can't afford to have me, can you?
And they'll go, okay, can you do 95?
All right, I'll do 95.
The woman comes in and they're more agreeable.
This is scientific.
I'm not trying to disparage anybody.
And you can argue agreeableness is a better trait.
But what happens is they go into a job interview and they say, well, um, what's your offer?
And they'll say 80,000.
We'll go.
Okay.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Let me call my husband.
tim pool
No, they'll say, OK.
They'll say, OK.
I have these conversations with my female friends all the time.
They're like, they're not paying me enough.
And I was like, what'd you ask for?
Well, they offered, you know, 50.
And I'm like, did you ask for 60 or 70?
No.
And I'm like, OK, yeah, well, go ask for it.
Well, it's too late now.
I got the job.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but you're a misogynist, Tim.
Here's the thing.
There is 40,000 people watching.
You are but 18,000 subscribers short of 1 million subscribers.
ian crossland
It's getting close.
tim pool
Well, they're probably all subscribed.
ian crossland
Is it going to be the golden YouTube button?
jeremy thequartering hambly
If you're like me, there's like 40% of them that are subscribed.
ian crossland
You guys gotta subscribe right now.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And leave a like on the video.
tim pool
Alright, well I don't know what that has to do with the conversation about women not getting paid or anything.
jeremy thequartering hambly
There are a lot of women in the crowd.
I will pay you women equally if you leave a like.
ian crossland
Jordan Peterson is subscribed.
Peterson's a clinical psychologist, you probably know.
tim pool
Let's break a million subscribers tonight.
ian crossland
Tell your friends.
Jordan Peterson has posted clinical data about agreeableness, which is a personality trait.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I feel so bad.
ian crossland
Yeah, he got kind of raked for it.
But women tend to be more agreeable on average, and that's because of their communication skills in the family.
It's about not, you know, shutting people down.
But men are—it's way easier for, on average, men to be less agreeable, which is why contract negotiations— Men are stupider?
tim pool
It's the greater male variability hypothesis that women tend to cluster around the center of the bell curve, and men have a wider bell curve, meaning you are more likely to encounter a really dumb man.
You're also more likely to encounter a really smart man.
So I thought about this too, because there's a trope about women saying, God, men are so dumb.
ian crossland
They're not wrong.
But men are also so smart.
tim pool
Because if you have 100 men and 100 women, you're going to have 10 dumb women, 80 average women, and 10 smart women.
And if you have 100 men, you're going to have 20 really dumb men, 60 average, and 20 super smart men.
ian crossland
And the stupidest of humans will tend to be men, and the smartest humans will tend to be men.
tim pool
Yes, so here's what happens.
If you have 100 men and 100 women, and you've got 20 male geniuses and 10 female geniuses, you now have two to one competing for the same job.
Those aren't actual numbers.
The statistics are probably very different.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That'd be if everybody in the world was applying for one job.
tim pool
And let's say there's five positions.
There's 30 people and 20 of them are guys.
There's a very high probability it will be all five guys.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yep.
tim pool
All five.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's how you end up with all the male CEOs.
tim pool
Not because of sexism, but because you've got... If you reached your hand into a hat, okay?
Let's just do regular old... A sexism hat.
A regular probability.
Say, we're gonna do blind hiring.
So we have the smartest women and the smartest men in this hat.
We only have five.
You pull one, two, three, four, five.
Very strong likelihood.
All dudes.
ian crossland
And if you take into account that the extremes tend to be male, and you're only trying to fill one role, which is the CEO of Google, you look for the smartest human, which tends to be, it's not always the case, a guy.
Intelligence is a weird word, too.
tim pool
And the more people that exist, the bigger the gap becomes.
Because if it's two to one, you're gonna have one job, the CEO of Google, and you're gonna have two million guys and one million women.
Two million from each.
So what they do then is you get these equity constructivist people who are like, well, then you have to choose the women.
And it's like, that doesn't make sense either.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, that's how it is, though.
tim pool
You pull them out of the hat, congratulations, you got a guy.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So in my day job, I have at least one Fortune 500 company that works for me.
And I've seen this garbage on the internals of corporate culture.
And it's real.
It's not we need to hire the best person for the job.
Not at the executive level, at the sales level, at any job that is like... Get woke, go broke.
tim pool
Not at the level where performance matters, but where the level where people see... Performance always matters, man.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It does not.
ian crossland
Especially in the military.
jeremy thequartering hambly
In the military, yeah.
ian crossland
I don't want to rear end the conversation, but that's what I keep thinking about.
tim pool
Let's say you have 100 employees and 80 do the actual birdhouse manufacturing.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're using McGinty screws, probably, too.
tim pool
Let's say you've got 80 people actually doing the work, you've got 15 people in an administrative and managerial role, and then five executives.
You put in one bad executive, and they start just doing weird things.
Even if they're not involved in the day-to-day process, eventually an email pops up where they scream bigotry, disrupt operations, slug up the time, and then everything starts getting jammed up, and they will perform worse than a company that doesn't have that weirdo person.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but that doesn't prevent them from getting the job.
What I'm saying is that diversity quotas are freaking real.
They're real.
And if they can't fill it in an existing role, they create them.
And that's why you end up with the diversity czar or whatever the hell it is.
Yeah.
tim pool
Chief diversity officer.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
Like, that's what it... I mean, it's real.
Like, I'm not... I mean, that shouldn't be controversial to say.
You know what that really is?
tim pool
When they create the position called, like, the Office of Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity... By the way, it's never a man that has that job.
When they create these positions, they're basically akin to creating the Chinese Communist Party offices in Chinese businesses.
They want their church in every company.
And they're winning.
They're getting these things.
Imagine!
Every company had to have a Christian church and chaplain to administer the proper Christian ideology to what the business does.
That's what they're doing with the diversity and inclusivity and equity stuff.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Do you know how these job negotiations go?
It's like the mob.
Or it's like when you're black and you get pulled over in a small town.
Like, ooh, your taillight's out.
Like, ooh, that's a nice business you have there.
Sure would be a shame if something happened to it.
You should probably hire me.
I have $150,000 in college debt from Columbia.
I have a degree in gender studies.
You should probably hire me as a diversity.
If you look at every major video game company, Riot Games, Blizzard, they all have these roles and they're all completely useless and they all make huge money.
It's like a mafia.
tim pool
Remember how, like, Magic the Gathering used to have all the angels were, like, red-headed, busty women?
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, I don't remember it, because it was 20 years ago.
tim pool
But now the cards are, like, frumpy, warrior-looking, armored, manly women.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Half-shaved head, flipped over the top.
By the way, shout-out to...
tim pool
I got no problem with it.
I just don't play Magic anymore.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't have a problem with either.
I don't buy it.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
They're allowed to do whatever they want and more power to them.
Congratulations on your success.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, congratulations on ruining the best game ever.
But the... I'm not even saying that.
tim pool
I'm saying... I am.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm saying that.
tim pool
Make your own game, bro.
Which we are doing.
Make Magic the quartering.
Yeah, well, if you want a game, that's fun.
Listen, you or I, nobody's entitled to this game.
It's not our game.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right, that's why I walked away, though.
tim pool
Exactly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I didn't want it.
tim pool
The libertarian approach is, I'm a big fan of the game.
They've changed it in ways I don't like.
ian crossland
It's not the shaved head women that ruined it.
It's the mechanics.
It's the tri-lands.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's the power creep, really, that killed it.
And then they're printing singles now, basically.
tim pool
Do you know why that happened?
The power creep?
jeremy thequartering hambly
They got lazy.
tim pool
They sold out.
They wanted a lower common denominator in gameplay.
Dude, they wanted a lower common denominator in gameplay.
They want people of no skill to be able to play and feel powerful.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Do you remember when a 2-drop 3-3 was like a bannable card?
I'm serious.
tim pool
When a one-drop two-two, that's the must-have.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Savannah Lion was the best card on the planet.
tim pool
Grizzly Bears.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, or Grizzly Bears.
That's a two-drop two-two.
tim pool
Nobody has any idea what we're talking about, so let me simplify.
ian crossland
Four for a five-five, have a drawback.
tim pool
Okay, here's what's happening, for those that don't understand the game.
For a long time, it was a kind of slow game.
It's a card game where you play cards, you're battling an opponent.
People call it poker and chess combined.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's like poker and chess.
tim pool
Poker and chess combined.
Over time, as the company got more woke, there were some instances.
For one, a comic shop had a Keck flag in a flower pot or something on a shelf.
Someone saw it.
The shop got banned from buying Magic Gathering products.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I did a fundraiser for them.
tim pool
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Fire and dice.
tim pool
What's happening now is, as Ian and Jeremy bring up, power creep.
That describes how the game is making cards that are just so insanely powerful.
lydia smith
Too powerful.
tim pool
What's actually happening is, they want people of no skill to be able to play.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
The game has become a dice roll.
We actually have a joke, right Ian?
Where instead of playing, we're just like, we'll roll a 20-sided die.
Whoever gets it, you win.
ian crossland
I won.
Reshuffle.
tim pool
Yep, reshuffle.
ian crossland
Reshuffle again.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Shuffling's the most fun anyway.
tim pool
Yeah, so it's gotten to the point where- It's ridiculous.
ian crossland
Because they'll print new every year they'll make new cards so over the years they would print better better and more
unidentified
powerful card ten years So it's supposed to be like poker chess poker and chess
ian crossland
never change. It's the same game for thousands of years They never added new pieces right this game is we can't is
tim pool
to keep the game fresh. They want to update things the problem is
They they don't want skill anymore It was always difficult to be the best to win, to craft the best deck.
Now it's like, these cards are insane.
ian crossland
Certain decks are built around one guy, you get the cards to build that deck, and then that is the deck that wins.
tim pool
They want people who have fun going, yay, dragons!
Oh no, goblin!
Flip a coin, I win!
jeremy thequartering hambly
Let me tell you what really ruined it.
And then we'll get off because I'm sure Chad is just.
tim pool
Well we're we're we're not.
They're they're chill.
ian crossland
OK. But I'm just as much as OK.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But but the power creep was bad enough.
But when Wizards the makers of the game they took the woke
characters and then specifically made them O.P.
to to write.
Sure. Like it's not enough that we have a
ace a gender It also has to be the best character in the game.
unidentified
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And we need to force.
tim pool
Like Captain Marvel.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
We need to force, quote unquote, everyone to play competitive deck to also play with this so then they can talk about this or that every week.
That was it.
ian crossland
This is what's happening.
tim pool
We've talked about movies.
We've talked about the woke-ification of the industry and how the ideology is more important than the content.
That's what they're doing.
Have you seen, my favorite movie guy, have you seen The New Craft?
No!
jeremy thequartering hambly
Do I look like I love torture?
tim pool
You need to watch it.
unidentified
No!
No!
tim pool
You need to watch it.
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
It's like literally watching a torture film.
The film has no plot.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Way to sell it.
tim pool
There's no real plot.
It is literally like, imagine if you watched a video where it was just someone explaining to you why you should be woke.
That's what it is for two hours.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That sounds awesome.
Where can I pay for this?
tim pool
So instead of making a compelling story where you have an agendered character who fought a dragon and the dragon bit off his arm or their arm.
So brutal what they're doing is they're saying it doesn't matter if you win or lose it matters that we all have the
jeremy thequartering hambly
right ideology The right opinions
tim pool
Yeah so instead of making a compelling story where you have an
Agendered character who fought a dragon and the dragon bit off his arm or their arm, which is fine. Yeah
Yeah.
And then they're like, I had to fight.
And you know, in my, in my world, the world I come from, gender isn't a construct.
You'd be like, Oh, that's an interesting, you know, like you ever watch sliders the way they go to the opposite dimensions?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I did watch it downstairs.
It was on the TV.
tim pool
No, no, better yet, better yet.
Star Trek The Next Generation has an episode where they go to a planet where all the men are small.
jeremy thequartering hambly
By the way, one of the most woke shows, like in an unforceful way.
tim pool
TNG.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Of our area.
Absolutely.
tim pool
They go to a planet where the women are all very tall and strong and dominant, and the men are all small and demure and weak.
And the women of that planet are like, a man coming in, making really interesting points about society and things like that, and exploring these alternate versions of civilization.
It would be fun to explore that instead what happens is that instead of going to the amp like in the next generation they go to this planet and then Riker explains to this woman how her ways are wrong how you there needs to be equality and how the federation understands equality instead what we're getting now is Riker would show if they did this today today's day and age commander Riker would show up the woman would be like women are actually way better than men And then Riker would go, wow, I didn't realize that.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You're so correct.
tim pool
So it's not that they're actually teaching us how to be good people and to work with others.
They're just asserting that some are better than others.
So Captain Marvel got ragged on quite a bit.
So when I was in Avengers Endgame theater, That last one, I was like, wait a minute, Tim.
ian crossland
The secret's out.
He was Thanos.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Who were you in Avengers Endgame?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, I can't remember.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
When I was in the theater, and Thanos, when Captain Marvel breaks with the ship, the audience groaned.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I know.
Mine too.
tim pool
And then when Thanos headbutts her, and then she doesn't flinch at all, they went, oh!
jeremy thequartering hambly
The crowd cheered when he punched her in my theater.
When he took the Power Stone out, it was like, pow!
The crowd cheered.
ian crossland
Yes!
tim pool
They groaned, man.
I groaned, too.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Because it's like, dude, she wasn't even in the movie.
Her entire role in the movie was to be the most powerful character.
She did it in 18 seconds and left.
ian crossland
The problem is Captain Marvel is a guy.
And it has been since the 50s or whenever they made him.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Very fair point.
ian crossland
And then they recast it as a woman.
Fine, if she wants to play a male character.
unidentified
That's not the problem.
ian crossland
But they changed it into a female for some reason.
tim pool
No, no, no.
ian crossland
That is a problem.
Well, for me, that's a problem.
tim pool
I don't see that as a problem.
The problem I see is she's like a fighter jet exploded and now I'm the most powerful being in the universe, even more powerful than Thanos.
We watched the Hulk get thrashed by Thanos.
They did that.
Infinity War was amazing.
jeremy thequartering hambly
The Hulk has 15 films established of being super powerful.
tim pool
And they did that in the beginning to show you how strong Thanos was.
Then we have this woman who's not in the films at all, show up and Thanos headbutts her, and she doesn't flinch, and the audience groaned.
I don't care to rehash silly pop culture things in this regard, but this one's important because it's a perfect example of why it does not work.
The reason it doesn't work is that if there's no challenge, life is boring.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's just the challenge.
tim pool
Exactly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, that's why I don't like Marvel.
It's not even the challenge.
There are no stakes.
ian crossland
Like, they can't lose.
The heroes can't lose.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You can't lose.
So, like, during Endgame, when Hawkeye and Black Widow have this really intense moment of who they're literally fighting over who's going to kill themselves, right?
You're like, oh, man, this is some real ish, you know?
And they're like, ah, Pym Particles will just go back.
ian crossland
Did you read the Infinity Gauntlet?
The original?
No.
They killed heroes and they were gruesome.
Spider-Man had his head bashed in with a rock.
tim pool
But that's how it should be.
ian crossland
It was amazing.
It was gut-wrenching.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Do you remember Weapon X?
Wolverine was my all-time favorite.
And then Magneto in the comic books rips out all his enemies.
ian crossland
Oh, it's so good.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And he's basically a head in a bottle.
They would never risk that in modern post.
ian crossland
You gotta kill your heroes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yes, you have to.
You can't have this baloney sausage where you're like, oh, let's get some Pym Particles and just go back and fix everything.
No.
When I saw you die in Civil War, I- you should stay dead.
Because then it matters!
tim pool
I don't mind that they came back, but Infinity War, I think, was a masterpiece, and Endgame was just like... Garbage.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Garbage.
Just say it.
ian crossland
Garbage.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It was like, you ever see that Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns is an alien?
They think it's an alien, but it turns out Mr. Burns is irradiated and he's blind?
I love you!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then it ends with them singing Good Morning Starshine and holding hands.
That's what Endgame was.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yes, it was.
Yeah.
My wife, so my wife is not a Marvel fan.
She likes Thor because she's a woman and she has primal needs and she enjoys... So she likes Sam's worth?
We have a basic... For Endgame, we have basically the same body type.
So she was basically living her dream.
But like, when we were in the theater and they had that I am Woman moment in Endgame, where all the women, she literally leaned over to me and was like, And she, by the way, she's never watched.
I have 2000 videos in the quarter and never watched one of them.
So she's not like into this cult.
She said, Normie.
That's why she, that's why it works for us.
tim pool
I can't remember where I was, which, which city I was in.
Oh, I do, I do.
I was in, I was in, um, like... Where did I see this?
Was I in... Pittsburgh?
No, no, no.
I think I was in, like, um... Havre de Grace.
You know where that is?
In Maryland.
I was somewhere near there.
I'm pretty sure that's where... I could be wrong.
But yeah, people were groaning.
These are, like, regular suburbanite people.
This is not too far from the D.C.
area.
And they were groaning at these things.
So, listen.
This... The bigger picture here, why this matters to people who may have not seen the movie, is that...
You take the traditional hero's journey, which is formulaic, but doesn't always have to be the same.
And you look at, actually, I'll give you an example.
There's a really great breakdown where they compare Captain America to Captain Marvel as films, and why they don't work.
And what the guy reviewing it doesn't mention, because he probably doesn't know, is that he's pointing out all of the woke So he's like, you know, we see the character development of Steve Rogers.
He's a small, scrawny man.
He's weak, and he's getting brutally beaten down, but he's willing to stand up for himself against all the odds.
Captain Marvel is a perfect soldier who is insulted even though she's a great fighter pilot.
A guy makes fun of her.
Then she proves herself as a great fighter pilot, and then she gets superpowers.
There's no development.
Watching Captain America, my favorite scene, is when Tommy Lee Jones, he's like, he's not gonna cut, it's about spirit!
And then he pulls the grenade pin and throws it.
All the soldiers run away and then Steve as a scrawny guy jumps on it and says, get back!
That was establishing that he was willing to sacrifice himself for others, that even though he wasn't the strongest, he had character.
And then you see the doctor who's Stanley Tucci, he, like, laughs.
Captain Marvel instead.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But that's not even her fault.
That's not even her fault.
It's just garbage writing.
tim pool
It's not Brie Larson's fault.
I agree.
ian crossland
Brie's better than that.
That's the problem.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, they could have given her a great story so she could earn it, but they wanted to fast-track it.
And that's why it sucked.
No, no, no.
tim pool
I don't think they wanted to fast-track it.
I think it's like you described with the Magic the Gathering character.
They're like, okay, if we make a feminist character, she has to be the strongest and the best no matter what.
So that's what they do.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They already had Scarlet Witch, though, and they just didn't give a shit about her.
ian crossland
Is she supposed to be super powerful, Scarlet Witch?
tim pool
Scarlet Witch is the most powerful.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She's the most powerful.
tim pool
Mega level mutant.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
She rewrites reality.
ian crossland
Why is she so boring?
To me.
I mean, I can only say Disney+.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It was on Disney+.
ian crossland
They never really wrote her character out in the comics.
tim pool
In the comics, she's one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful.
There's arguments about who's the most powerful.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I mean, Jean Grey took care of Captain Marvel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But isn't the X-Men animated series based off Rogue, wiping out Captain Marvel and taking all her powers?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
That happened.
But Scarlet Witch can rewrite reality and did in House of M, this comic book arc, and took away all the powers from everybody.
What they did with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in Age of Ultron was weak.
Was weak, weak, weak.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Weak sauce.
Super weak.
tim pool
But, so all she's doing is throwing energy blasts at you.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
That looked lame.
tim pool
Well, they're now changing that with WandaVision.
They're making it so that... She showed her true power in that.
Yeah, and she's reading the book.
Though, I'm sorry, WandaVision was bad.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It was a six out of 10.
tim pool
It was bad because she was the villain and the good guy gets arrested in the end.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She, but here's the thing you, you recognize that, but regular people don't.
I said that too, when I said, I said, Oh, you guys know that Wanda's the villain, right?
tim pool
And the good guy was like, we have to stop her because she's enslaved 3,000 people.
jeremy thequartering hambly
She's enslaved a whole city because her feelings are hurt.
And people are like, wow, strong, independent woman.
She's related to the Olsen twins.
Actually, she's an evil character.
tim pool
You see the correlation with the wokeness, though?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
WandaVision is a story.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Monica Rambeau, too, in that series, too.
tim pool
She gained powers because she broke through the barrier or something.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't know.
So lame.
tim pool
But listen.
WandaVision is, her feelings are hurt, she's depressed and angry, so she enslaves, literally, this is the story, she enslaves 3,000 people, and they're suffering and begging for death.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They have that one episode.
tim pool
And she's the good guy!
Because it's her feelings!
And then I love the end, spoiler alert for everybody who hasn't seen it yet, but I'm gonna say it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Everyone's seen it.
tim pool
He's like though when when the fake vision goes they'll never know what you sacrificed for them. It's like dude
jeremy thequartering hambly
She's enslaving them and they're begging for death. I know yeah, there's the yes
tim pool
They're like, please let us die and she's like no That's like dude Wow second last episode
jeremy thequartering hambly
I think is where it might be the last or the second last but where the townspeople were basically like yeah, like
tim pool
Pain this is why I'm for but she was the good guy and the the was it the sword agent
I think it was he's like the bad guy. We're gonna send in a drone
He was the heal stop her because she's enslaved 3,000 people it ends with him getting arrested like for what?
ian crossland
This is why I'm up for giving people's wealth away when they die.
Because Disney, whoever owns that or runs that, does not deserve that.
Why do people get these great corporations and then just do terrible things with them?
tim pool
Listen, look at Captain Marvel.
In the movie Captain Marvel, there's a guy in a motorcycle.
He sees her and he goes, hey, why don't you smile more?
And the next scene is she's wearing his clothes and on his bike.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So basically... No, you forgot the part where she breaks his arm.
ian crossland
So they're basically like, Terminator 2 is cool, let's reuse it.
tim pool
That's what they were saying, but listen.
This means the character who's supposed to be a hero has shown her character as that of a villain.
That if someone offends her delicate sensibilities, she will injure and steal from him.
Batman and Superman never killed, no matter what, and they were really... Hold on, hold on.
I'm getting there.
And there were really amazing storylines like the Justice Lords, where when Joker did trick Superman into, I guess, effectively killing Lois, and then Superman blames Batman saying, you could have stopped him.
At any point, if you just killed this man, Lois would still be alive, and he becomes a despot.
But these are like alternate imaginings and alternate realities.
What makes Superman and Batman heroes is that they won't cross the line.
There have been instances, they've written that.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They do in the most recent DC films.
Batman does kill a bunch of people.
tim pool
I know!
jeremy thequartering hambly
I hated that.
I hated that.
tim pool
That was his line.
His morals was like, killing is wrong.
And if I have the option, I won't do it.
ian crossland
They're just jumping the shark.
They're selling it all out.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But you know what's a really... I want to just mention this about... You talked about Captain Marvel and her...
Oh, wait, no, I think I lost it.
I think I lost it.
unidentified
Never mind.
tim pool
Well, let's go to Super Chats!
Yeah, what a perfect time to go to Super Chats.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, I was gonna say something about, something about, you were talking about, um, Captain Marvel, uh, being infinitely powerful.
I'm gonna go to the bathroom.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen!
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm gonna circle back up.
tim pool
If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, because as Jeremy pointed out, we have around 40k people watching and we're only 18,000 subscribers away from breaking 1 million.
unidentified
It's true.
tim pool
I think most people watching are probably subscribed, but if you're not, you subscribed.
Maybe we can break 1 million subscribers by tonight, especially considering we get like half a million total views, including live and VOD.
ian crossland
Is that the Timcast 500,000 one, the gold one?
tim pool
No, that's a different channel.
That's a different channel.
ian crossland
You want me to show that now?
What we might be getting later?
It's a different channel.
It's just up here enticing my eyes.
tim pool
Subscribe if you haven't already and go to TimCast.com.
Become a member because we're going to talk with Jeremy about some stuff and I guess he's going to call out some companies, some scammers.
We'll see what's happening.
But if you're listening on iTunes or Spotify, leave us a good review because it does help.
And more importantly, in any capacity, share this.
If you're listening on YouTube right now, just take that link, drop it over on Facebook and Twitter, whatever.
That's the best thing you can do, and do it for all our clips if you really, really do want to help.
It's that little bit of action.
But if you think the show is good, enlightening, or helps people, like, you know, see things they normally wouldn't see, that's the little thing you can do.
It helps us greatly, don't get me wrong.
But if you think more people should hear this stuff, and we should wake people up to what's going on, that's how you do it.
With all that being said, smash the like button, and we will now read some Super Chats.
Paxton Haral says, sadly you missed my chat from yesterday, but I sold more non-PC cards, so enjoy more MTG money, courtesy of the woke inflation.
ian crossland
Oh, you're selling your cards, your magic cards.
I've gone through multiple phases of that.
tim pool
I won't sell them, but I gotta tell you, I am concerned.
Magic, for those that aren't familiar, is one of the best investments you can make.
Because they always go up in value.
For some reason, it's just always... That's inflation.
Because they, yeah, so... And also the rarity.
The rarity and they don't make them anymore and then you need to buy them.
It's their collector's cards.
So now I'm actually worried because the games, you know, it might get woke and go broke.
It's just becoming absurd and I don't want to play it anymore.
And it's a game I played since I was like seven or eight years old.
And if I'm at the point where like, I'm just like, I'm not having fun playing.
This is ridiculous.
This game's insane now.
ian crossland
What was your first deck?
tim pool
Um, my first deck, I don't know.
It was, it was built of antiquities cards.
And then a bunch of weird sets.
And then I eventually bought a pre-made, uh, fourth edition.
And then I started buying Fallen Kingdoms, I think it was.
ian crossland
Oh, Fallen Empires.
tim pool
Fallen Empires, there you go.
ian crossland
God, what a terrible set.
tim pool
Terrible set, but it was 80 cents per pack, so.
ian crossland
Breeding Pit was good, yeah.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
Let's see what we got.
All right.
Beef Swillington says, best part of the presser today was the brainless leader was asked about gun control and answered with a random answer on infrastructure.
It was brilliant, wasn't it?
lydia smith
Yeah, it's good diversion.
tim pool
I don't think it was a female.
I don't know.
captain crashes in Suez Canal, grinds global shipping to a halt at least until Monday.
Bitcoin also took a hit due to this.
Was it really a female boat captain?
lydia smith
I don't think it was a female.
I don't know.
ian crossland
That's highlighting a weakness in our global transport system.
tim pool
We got a ton of superchats, wow.
Yeshua Zef says, Ian, read this.
Patent U.S.
unidentified
2017-0313-446-A1.
tim pool
Oh my god.
Craft using an inertial mass reduction device granted to the U.S.
Navy.
ian crossland
Can you, one more time, read those numbers and I'll type them in?
tim pool
It's U.S.
2017-0313-446-A1.
ian crossland
Thank you.
tim pool
Sinek says, my two favorites together, spaghetti and Timcast.
What could be better?
Hey, there you go.
ian crossland
Sounds delicious.
tim pool
Jason Angelfire says, hear the quarterings voice in my headphone at Walmart as the podcast starts and bust it out laughing.
Ask him about the Walmart story and also what TISM is.
unidentified
Alright.
ian crossland
Sounds hilarious.
tim pool
Jmax says, Hambly!
Blink twice if you're being held against your will.
But seriously, the more the media shrieks, the more it becomes evident that you must be doing something right.
It is weird how so many are being targeted by journalist thought.
Journalist, though.
Might have to get my tinfoil hat on and yarn.
ian crossland
I will say urinal- urinalism is one of my favorites.
tim pool
Urinalism?
ian crossland
Hamblyisms, yeah.
tim pool
Hamblyisms, is that what he said?
ian crossland
Yeah, he called them urinalists.
tim pool
Student of history says, hello gents and lids.
Given the current state of animosity amongst people in the current year, I would like to abandon the barbaric legal system and reintroduce the gentleman's art of dueling.
Feel like it would help reinstate survival of the fittest.
Yep.
Trial by, uh, combat.
How about that?
ian crossland
If they both agree to it, I'm in.
tim pool
All right.
Grim Soul Banisher says, I want to become a member, but the only payment option is PayPal.
I do not have one anymore.
They took my money years ago.
Is there another option?
Not quite, but there will be soon because everybody who signed up on the current version have granted us the ability to upgrade, and we are.
The new version is beautiful.
It's amazing.
It's the best website.
Everybody agrees.
You're going to love it.
And it's going to provide- You sound just like Trump.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
unidentified
Sorry.
tim pool
That was the joke.
unidentified
Come on.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, Tim's not taking crypto, that's a fact.
ian crossland
He'd be like, come on, man.
tim pool
Yeah, we don't have a crypto, but I'm a big fan of Bitcoin and Ethereum.
Anyway, the new website, which is launching soon, maybe late this week, like tomorrow, I guess, maybe next week, will have more options, and then people will have the ability to switch over and expect some hiccups when that happens, because, you know, naturally.
But we have a great company, and hopefully everything will be very, very smooth, and the new website will be beautiful, and you will love it.
And we're gonna bring on writers.
We're gonna get people to write articles and free blogs and stuff like that.
It's gonna be a whole lot of fun.
Ghost Crusaders says, Hey Tim, why don't you produce my paranormal show?
First three episodes are here on YouTube.
I'd be down to do a podcast.
Where do I apply?
Jobs at timcast.com.
We are currently looking over a handful of resumes and, uh, it's, it's, you know, it's really tough about this.
The timeframe by which someone starts going through the email really does dictate if we can find your email, because we have like a thousand.
So all these people apply, and then it's like the day someone's looking, whichever one is like right there in front of them are the ones we go through, and we can only go through like a couple dozen, so it's really just not that easy, you know?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Here's what you need to do.
As someone who's hired a lot of people, you need to not spend your time accepting a ton of applications.
What you need to do is spend your time devising a very complex way of applying.
tim pool
Like solve a Rubik's Cube?
ian crossland
Like a 20-page questionnaire?
tim pool
Not necessarily even that, but give me $50 and I'll read your application.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That works.
But like, when I used to hire, so I worked for an internet marketing incubator, which meant we had a lot of internet marketing companies underneath us.
We had one super rich dude that would just invest in various websites.
We had like, go to this store, do this thing, and then ultimately, We would make them fax us their resume.
Because it's 2021.
Who the hell is faxing you a resume, right?
tim pool
But people who really want to do it will do it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Exactly.
People that read the description of the application would do it.
I would weed out 99% of applications that were not detail oriented.
ian crossland
Oh, that is such a good idea.
tim pool
I tweeted about looking to hire somebody.
And then Michael Malice suggested someone.
And he said something.
He made a joke about the first line.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Don't hire your friends.
tim pool
He said the first line of their email must be the best thing I like about Michael Malice is and so I went into my email and I searched and I found like 16 emails.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yep.
tim pool
This means the people were following me and Michael and other people and the conversation they were tuned in.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
So while it may sound silly and maybe a funny joke between like, you know, me and Michael or whatever, it actually was a really good indicator.
This person was paying attention and knew.
So it is things like that and we're actually hiring someone because of that silly joke.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Because, you know, it's proof that they're aware of what's happening and, you know, they're following it.
All right, Lucas Parada says, you should have Lucas Parada on the show.
Oh, he has lots of vacation time and could be your first Canadian migrant on the show since lockdown.
No, Aaron Berg was.
P.S.
Could have Revelations Bible Breakdown for TimCast exclusive.
That would actually be a really interesting thing to do for the newer paranormal stuff, though.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
The Revelation stuff is crazy, man.
ian crossland
Bible stuff.
tim pool
There's a lot of stuff in Revelations people keep bringing up.
ian crossland
It's so weird.
We have a program, a pre-designed program.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's fiction.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Kyle Booth says, my first ever super chat was when Jeremy was on.
This is my second ever super chat.
Can you guess when my third will be?
Tomorrow?
Because Jeremy's going to be on.
You guys are awesome.
My top two YouTubers I watch.
Keep up the amazing hard work.
You guys do.
You help me get through the long work days.
I look forward to how much, too much more from you guys.
Hey, really appreciate it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, shout out to the... You know, I get a lot of people super chatty to me when I stream late night.
I try to stream around you because you suck up like half my viewers.
tim pool
But like... Well, it's saturation, you know?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, whatever.
ian crossland
You do a live stream at night?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, yeah, if I do and it's like 8.01, people are like, Man, I'm sorry, I'm leaving for TimCast.
tim pool
So you're like, I gotta go on TimCast to get my views back.
jeremy thequartering hambly
There's a ton of custodians, OTR, over-the-road truck drivers that just listen.
Shout out to the people that just listen to the show while they're working.
tim pool
All right.
Ophir Keeter says, I played the Ian Fiat Graphene drinking game.
Subsequently, I've just been released from the hospital and I'm doing fine.
ian crossland
You need to go slow.
I think 5-HTP helps.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You weren't ready.
lydia smith
Every other shot, water.
ian crossland
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Vitamin C.
tim pool
OMG Puppy says, Trump can't just join Parler.
Its tech is not good enough.
Gab is too anti-Semitic.
Has to start a new one.
I mean, the issue with Gab is that they just allow people to speak, and so you get people who say nasty things, and that's a free speech principle.
unidentified
What do you do?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, that's the conundrum of any alt-tech, right?
Because the first-seeders you get are the worst.
The people that have de-platformed from everything, they're your first audience.
tim pool
All right.
Christopher Marr says, boil, troil, truning on a shabbat of pressure.
How long will it take the U.S.
to surrender?
For real, though, I feel like all of the crazy nonsense goings on, it's just to get us all to say, OK, we give up on the craziness.
China, take over, please.
ian crossland
Never give up.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No.
tim pool
Never give up, never surrender.
ian crossland
There is hope.
tim pool
Mr. Scratch, it's been a long time since I could see your content live.
Have a donation to make up for me watching your content as podcast for the last seven months.
Hey, well, that's cool too.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Thank you for paying that debt.
tim pool
That's right.
Yeah, you owed us.
Absolutely.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Call off the dogs.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Karen Tucker says, hey guys, seeing Jeremy on the shower today made me so happy.
unidentified
Whoa.
ian crossland
You met the show.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
That does say shower.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Hey, don't be telling people my only, I have a secret only fans account.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
Karen says, I love both your channels and watch every video posted.
Keep up the good work.
Baileyan says, does this mean you're going to be laying down the Milk Toast Beanie wisdom to the people at Fox News now?
So, they sent a truck to my house, to this house.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That was a cool thing to see.
I was pulling in right when they were pulling up and Lyds is driving and she's like, that's the Amazon driver.
They have a press tag in their window.
tim pool
It's a company where they send out trucks and they open the door and there's a TV behind you and you sit in a chair and there's a camera in front of you and it's like, What kind of camera was it?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Did you buy it?
tim pool
I do have one of those, actually.
The camera he had was interesting.
I walked out and was like, oh, hey, I have one of those.
We don't use them for the show.
We just filmed earlier because I did... We filmed... I made cinnamon toast crunch.
ian crossland
Oh, it was good.
tim pool
Fried shrimp.
ian crossland
I had a different version.
I had Andreas's version.
tim pool
You had Andreas's version.
So, did you hear the story in the New York Times about the guy with the shrimp?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm on the internet, too.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
It's a funny story.
This guy was eating a box of Cinnamon Toast Crunch and shrimp tails came out.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Allegedly.
tim pool
I mean, it's a photo, so I would say a guy posted photos of what he says came out of his box, sure.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Also married to Topanga, one of my first crushes ever.
ian crossland
From Boy Meets World?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, so here's the funny thing.
General Mills apparently said that those were actually just gobs of cinnamon and sugar clustered together.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Bologna!
They were shrimp tails for sure!
tim pool
Yeah, he took a picture.
So someone, as a gag, breaded shrimp and fried it with a habanero pineapple sauce reduction and said it was good, but would be better without Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
And I said he did it wrong.
The issue is that pineapple habanero doesn't go with cinnamon.
So we pulverized Cinnamon Toast Crunch, we breaded the shrimp, we rolled the shrimp in it, egg, and then Cinnamon Toast Crunch, fried it, and then we made a garlic ginger sauce.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
And it was delicious.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And for the record, Tim did invite me over for the Cinnamon Toast Crunch shrimp tails.
tim pool
Not shrimp tails, we cut those up.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Just shrimp, but Lydia thankfully picked me up and took me to America's most healthy dining facility, McDonald's.
tim pool
So we made the sauce.
Andreas made a similar version.
He made his own.
He made a garlic sauce too, didn't he?
ian crossland
I couldn't tell.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I like him.
tim pool
First time I met him today.
Yeah, he's a cool dude.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Super high energy.
tim pool
But then you tried the cinnamon toast crunch shrimp and you thought it was good.
ian crossland
It was great.
tim pool
Look, listen.
When you have, like, Chinese food, it's sugar sauce.
They put sugar and garlic and soy sauce and rice wine and stuff, and they mix it together in a little ginger, and then it's sugar.
It's brighted sugar.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's like yummy, yummy sauce.
You ever have that?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's just sugar.
tim pool
If we bread the shrimp—I'm gonna do chicken next.
We're gonna make—so we're calling this General Mills shrimp.
I love it.
Because, like, General So, but General Mills.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's racist, Tim.
tim pool
What do you mean?
It's Chinese food.
And then we're going to make Captain's Chicken, because we're going to take pulverized Captain Crunch and bread chicken with it and then put it in a golden brown sauce.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Is that tomorrow?
Because I'll come by tomorrow.
You can make that tomorrow.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And all the ingredients.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'll be here tomorrow then for dinner.
tim pool
All right, Eddie says, Hey guys and Jeremy, I work as a software engineer and it's scary how easy it is to implement analytics and track the user.
When I started to notice this, it became ugly scary to me.
We live in a time where we are more exposed than ever if people don't seem to care.
Why?
Because they can't see it.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
They can't see it negatively impacting them.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, because people have such an insane value on convenience.
Yes.
It's never been higher probably in human, in our history.
unidentified
100%.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Convenience.
tim pool
My friends.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And so you're willing to trade everything for it.
tim pool
We got good news.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Let's see.
How do you pronounce this?
Sirnoverlord?
Sirnoverlord says, Hey Tim, first-time caller, long-time listener.
What's your opinion on the Ninth Appeals Court ruling that Second Amendment does not cover carry of weapons outside of your home?
I'm so excited for this.
It was the best ruling ever.
You know why?
If the lower court ruled that you could, then congratulations.
In Hawaii, you can open carry.
But now that's going to the Supreme Court.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Guess what's happening.
tim pool
Which is 6-2-3.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm hoping the conservatives rule properly.
We may actually see a ruling at the Supreme Court level that says you cannot stop someone from openly carrying a weapon.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Anywhere.
tim pool
Anywhere for any reason.
In Hawaii, you're allowed to open carry if you have a legitimate reason.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Kentucky too.
Kentucky you can open carry.
There are other open carry states.
tim pool
Hawaii says, you're allowed to open carry if you fill out the form, provide a legitimate purpose, and we approve you.
This guy said, no, I should be able to openly bear arms, concealed or otherwise, without needing a permit.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Is this the Publix guy?
tim pool
Uh, no.
No, no, no.
So here's what might happen.
If the Supreme Court says the Second Amendment applies outside your home, then states like New Jersey, Maryland, New York, Illinois, Hawaii, all of a sudden, you're allowed to go to the store, buy a gun, and walk around with it in your hand.
jeremy thequartering hambly
As you should.
As you should, by the way.
ian crossland
In the store?
tim pool
Keep and bear arms.
ian crossland
Oh, but not in private.
tim pool
The store's private.
ian crossland
Private, okay.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You can still ban it from a business, yeah.
Right.
tim pool
Now, that Publix guy has an interesting story.
You hear this?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He had six guns and body armor.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He was gonna do a mass shooting, in my opinion.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
I don't know that.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I do.
unidentified
Who else does that?
jeremy thequartering hambly
What do you mean, why?
tim pool
Then why didn't he?
He walked in the bathroom and walked out and they grabbed him.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He pussed out.
He pussed out.
He was absolutely gonna do it.
There's... Look, if you... There's no... What was...
tim pool
The point he was proving.
I don't care what you think.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm not saying he should be convicted, because you can't prove it.
tim pool
I'm not going to read his mind.
ian crossland
What's the story?
tim pool
Guy walked into a Publix with six guns and body armor, went to the bathroom, and then walked out and they arrested him.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Not just six.
It was like an AR.
unidentified
He had an AR-15, he had a shotgun, and he had four handguns.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He had ammunition and four pistols.
Yeah.
tim pool
So what?
ian crossland
So he was loaded.
tim pool
Yes, absolutely.
ian crossland
That definitely wasn't a self-defense.
tim pool
Does the Second Amendment say, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed unless, of course, you're carrying too many?
ian crossland
No.
That would indicate it's not self-defense.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He wasn't doing that for self-defense.
ian crossland
It doesn't matter legally.
tim pool
Where's self-defense in the Second Amendment?
ian crossland
That's the point of it is self-defense.
tim pool
No, it isn't.
It says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
It doesn't say that.
ian crossland
But that's why they put it in there.
tim pool
No, it's not.
ian crossland
That's what they said.
To protect yourself from the tyranny of the government.
jeremy thequartering hambly
To protect yourself from the government.
tim pool
Bro, bro, bro.
ian crossland
They didn't say you can wear arms so that you can go kill people and commit crimes.
That wasn't why they put it in there.
tim pool
The original article, before it became the Second Amendment, actually said basically for any reason you can have guns.
ian crossland
Yeah, I guess they didn't want to say, they didn't want to purport a reason.
tim pool
They took this out because they were scared that overly broad language would give someone a legal argument against conscription.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So what do you think that guy was doing in public?
Do you think he was just making a political statement?
tim pool
I honestly have no idea, but maybe.
It's been done before.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Take a guess.
tim pool
There was a public statement, maybe.
There was a story where a guy, after a shooting, went into a Walmart with a gun to make a public statement.
I remember that one.
jeremy thequartering hambly
He did it, yeah.
tim pool
And then he got charged with nuisance or whatever.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That I understand, though.
Was it Milwaukee?
Because there's a guy in my home state that did it.
An individual who, how do I say this, a large black male walked into a white neighborhood pick and save, which is a grocery store, with an AR, and he got arrested.
Now, he said he was just making a political statement.
But we don't have open carry in Wisconsin.
ian crossland
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
When I look at that situation, do I think he was gonna do the worst thing?
No, I don't think he was gonna.
I think he thought in his head, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna get famous, I'm gonna do this thing.
So maybe that's what that guy at Publix did.
Because like you said, the fact that he didn't go through with it is odd.
tim pool
You know what we need?
We need the NRA, they will never do this, but we need a gun rights organization to go to Chicago And find any one of these Southside young black men who are arrested for possession of a firearm.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So 50 a week?
tim pool
50 a week.
Now hold on.
Not every single one of these guys arrested committed a crime.
Some of them just want to have a gun to protect themselves and their family and they are legally allowed to.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, they illegally own the weapon, the firearm.
tim pool
The Constitution says otherwise.
So if a dude buys a gun and keeps and bears it, and he commits no crime against anybody else, I want to see gun rights groups go to these young black men in Chicago and get them out of jail and dump that money in defending them in court.
They don't do it though.
I'm sick and tired of this.
It's the hypocrisy of ignoring the mass shootings of Chicago.
Who are these people?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Who are these people that are going to... Are they felons?
tim pool
No.
Who are illegally... They become felons because they have the gun.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So when they're a felon, they lose the right.
tim pool
There are people in Chicago.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm saying, is that who you're talking about?
tim pool
I'm explaining.
There are people in Chicago who have committed no crimes.
Then they go and they get a gun that is deemed illegal by the state, even though the Constitution says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What does that mean?
tim pool
What does that look like?
It means they drive to Indiana, they legally buy the gun and bring it back to Chicago.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Got it.
tim pool
They then get arrested and charged with felony possession.
I want to see gun rights groups say that these young men have a right to bear arms.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Why are they going to Indiana, though?
Because of the gun laws in Chicago?
tim pool
So, what's happening to a lot of these guys?
jeremy thequartering hambly
I don't understand.
I live two hours north.
tim pool
Someone will go to Indiana and buy a gun and then transfer it to someone who lives in Chicago.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So, a straw purchase, which is illegal.
tim pool
Right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Just saying.
tim pool
I think the issue is, regardless of how they got it, they have a right to bear arms.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're charging them with illegal possession.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But why aren't they buying illegally?
tim pool
Because you can't get a gun in Chicago, dude!
ian crossland
No, it does matter how you get it.
Same with money.
tim pool
If you get money illegally, then you're not- I'm talking specifically about the charge for possession.
Not for purchase or anything else.
They should be defended in that regard.
ian crossland
I think you're right.
jeremy thequartering hambly
In Chicago- Yeah, everyone should carry, in my opinion, everybody.
tim pool
Have you ever looked at the process?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Especially Asians.
tim pool
Hashtag StopAsianHating.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Absolutely.
tim pool
If I have to get on my roof to defend myself, I'll do it.
Have you seen how hard it is to get a gun in states like New York or in these cities?
It's insane.
And what they do is they say- What about the gun show loophole, Tim?
jeremy thequartering hambly
They're just handing out guns to everybody!
tim pool
The gun show loophole is a trick.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I know.
It's bullshit.
I know that.
tim pool
There's no loophole.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I'm being sarcastic.
tim pool
There's no loophole.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I know that.
tim pool
They're basically saying that in rural states, individuals can privately transfer so long as they know for a fact the person is not barred from- Within a reasonable- yeah, right, right.
That's it.
They're trying to make universal background checks so that Joe Bob Jr., who lives in the mountains of West Virginia, has to drive three hours to a gun shop in order to give his neighbor John Smith a weapon to protect his property from wildfires.
jeremy thequartering hambly
If only criminals would just follow the law.
ian crossland
So you think these dudes with guns should have their felonies dropped and just have state charges?
jeremy thequartering hambly
No, I think he's saying that even if they have a felony that they should be able to carry.
tim pool
I'm saying right now, listen, that there are mass shootings all the time in Chicago that the left ignores because it doesn't scare the delicate sensibilities of white suburban progressives because they don't care about the black community.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, they're not mass.
They're not mass.
They're two at a time.
tim pool
There was 15 people shot.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Not by the same guy?
tim pool
What?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Not by the same guy?
tim pool
Last weekend?
jeremy thequartering hambly
In Chicago?
tim pool
Yeah, it was one guy who went to a party and he shot 15 people.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, okay, you're talking about something specific.
Okay, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, it happens all the time.
And they go in, and I covered mass shootings over and over again in Chicago.
They don't care about this.
And you know what the gun rights advocacy groups, and I don't hear from conservatives?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Because it's in the hood.
tim pool
I don't care where it is.
The Constitution doesn't say except in the hood.
So if we're going to be constitutionalists, then I want to see gun rights groups go to the core and find people with standing.
Young men, guys in their twenties, who have a gun, I don't care how they got it, if they're being charged with possession of that weapon, they're allowed to keep and bear arms.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What do you think the NRA does with their money?
Nothing.
tim pool
There was a big scandal when they were buying cars and stuff.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Commercials?
I'm not an NRA guy, I'll tell you that for a fact.
I think they serve as a whipping boy for anti-gun people.
I don't think they do a lot of good.
I don't see them doing any advocacy.
tim pool
There's a lot of complicated nuance involved in what goes on in Chicago.
The point I'm bringing up is when I saw what happened to Philando Castile, I think it's the right name, legal gun owner, black man, was shot and killed by a cop who panicked Even though the guy did everything right, and the NRA hesitated, I got mad.
And I say, yo, and I saw all these Trump supporters getting mad too, and I was like, right on.
They were like, defend the guy, he's a gun owner, it's legally, you know?
Then I'm thinking to myself, how is it that we can complain that the media ignores the mass shootings in Chicago, and then talks about these ones that they use to try and ban guns, but then where are the gun rights groups finding all of the people in Chicago who have legal standing to sue on the grounds that their right to keep and bear arms is being infringed?
jeremy thequartering hambly
But Tim, why do you think that media ignores what happens in Chicago?
tim pool
Because it's all about political agendas.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Exactly.
tim pool
When you talk about what happens in Chicago, you do not scare suburban progressives who will then go and vote for Democrats.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You don't change votes.
Exactly.
tim pool
So I wonder why gun rights advocacy groups aren't going into Chicago.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I feel bad.
I feel bad.
I know this is probably an old statistic-slash-anecdote, and it's probably still true, but there's a time where living in Chicago is more dangerous than living in Baghdad.
tim pool
That's true, though.
There's more gun deaths there.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Like, there's a region in Iraq.
Yeah, as I say, everyone in Wisconsin calls it Chiraq.
Milwaukee is not great either anymore.
tim pool
We had Allen West on the show, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, with respect, and we disagreed.
I said, I think if you commit a felony, pay your debt to society, then you should be able to vote and buy guns.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I agree with that.
tim pool
But he disagreed, because violent offenders could re-offend, and I said, What's the point of prison if you can never pay your dues?
ian crossland
Slave labor.
tim pool
Either you pay your debt to society or you never can.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I agree with you 100%.
tim pool
It's not even violent felons.
You could get arrested on a possession charge and now you can't have a gun anymore.
You're not a violent offender.
A violent offense?
ian crossland
I'm into like maybe looking but we need to reform prison.
tim pool
I mean if we're gonna have prison should be there has to be a path you are restrained Listen prison should be you commit a violent crime, right?
We restrain you so you can't do it again We rehabilitate you give you access to the Internet.
We give you want to use it Oh And re-entry should be, we shouldn't put people in prison for, you know, 25 years.
It should be like 20 years and then five years of like serious probation.
ian crossland
Dude, I would love to see prisoners on video chat with like psychologists and therapists and watch, have prison guards watch so they don't just watch and communicate.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Prison doesn't reform anybody.
tim pool
No, it's just lock them up to this current one.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's only a deterrent.
It's a deterrent and it turns mid-grade criminals into masterminds and it turns petty criminals into mid-grade criminals.
The prison system doesn't work.
But I will say that if you do your time, then I 100% support you coming out and being able to be a regular citizen.
tim pool
Let's read some more of these.
Ham Sarabi says, Tim, you keep using terms like the cathedral, but I don't think you know their origin or their full context.
Invite Curtis Yarvin onto the show.
Michael Malice can probably get you in touch with him.
You won't regret it.
Sounds good to me.
Ben Walker says, Tim is 100% right about getting the incentives right for alternative platforms.
AWS, Facebook, Twitter have their competitive advantage from economy of scale.
Alternative platforms need to get the incentives right in order to scale, then they can compete.
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Gamification.
tim pool
Sonny James says, off topic, but is Rapture Watcher channels unique only to America?
I got to say, I've never seen such a group of calm people debating how God's going to destroy America.
It's like he's sitting there thinking race war, invasion, robots, or good old fire.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
But the revelation stuff is really interesting, because people are pointing out stuff in the Bible that they're seeing happen now.
It could just be people looking for patterns, you know?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
That's a human's natural tendency.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Eric Allen says, literally so happy to see Jeremy on Timcast today.
I've been watching both of you for years, and when Jeremy said he would be coming on, I moved my schedule to see it live.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Wow.
tim pool
Love you guys.
What's up Lydia and Ian?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Shout out to Lydia for picking me up at the airport.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Shout out to Lydia picking me up from my hotel and giving me... Going to the beer store.
Going to McDonald's.
Took me to the liquor store.
Thank you.
And shout out to Tim for bringing me out.
tim pool
Shout out to Jeremy for coming on the show.
And we're going to have you on tomorrow as well.
It's going to be fun.
We're hanging out.
Everyone took B, didn't they?
says both the US women's and men's teams were given two choices option a you get
paid per game depending if you were on the team sheet without benefits option
B everyone gets paid regardless of if they're on the sheet but they get
benefits I remember that I covered that they chose their contract ever to
jeremy thequartering hambly
complain today they all took B didn't they I don't remember which one they
tim pool
took but like they complained Yeah.
Yeah.
Jason Dunn says the women's team chose option B and ended up making less money because the base pay was lower since everyone got paid.
The men's team made more since you only got paid if you were on the team sheet.
The women saw this and they said, we want what they have.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, they didn't take the risk.
tim pool
It was exactly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
Contract negotiations.
Brandon Gardner says, Big fan, Jeremy.
Love crossovers of my favorite content creators.
Keep up the good work, guys.
Absolutely.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Big shout out, Ian, too.
ian crossland
Oh, what up, Holler?
tim pool
Quacking Golem says, The women's soccer team was offered the same deal as the men.
They turned it down and got mad when they realized they would have made more if they accepted the same deal as the men.
The women win World Cups.
The men barely make the tourney.
unidentified
It's true.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's a good point.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
They didn't take the risk.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
tim pool
They played it safe because they didn't think they were going to make it.
All right, let's see.
We'll do a couple more.
We'll do a couple more because we got a bunch of superchats.
Sonny James says, I'm skeptical about crypto.
To me, it might be a gigantic psy-op marketed as breaking up centralized banks.
Bill Gates in the Navy investing heavily in XRP and Ripple.
I've heard that will depend on your behavior via social credit score.
Full black mirror.
I don't really know too much.
ian crossland
People were skeptical about the automobile, so.
tim pool
BlackRockBeacon says, Go Tim!
There is no such thing as an illegally owned gun according to the Constitution.
Money is not protected by the Constitution.
Ian, let's do this.
Use your fabled non-profit skills.
You got the money.
I'll go help cover it.
I would absolutely love to start a non-profit.
That helps young men who have been arrested on gun charges in Chicago get their records expunged, file these lawsuits, defend their rights to keep and bear arms.
I interviewed a woman, she was an activist in Chicago, and she said, we believe in guns, we believe we have a right to own guns, and we want to make sure everyone's doing it correctly and legally.
That was what she was advocating for, and she thought that would help stop the gun violence.
I also think there's a bunch of young men who don't know what they're doing, don't know if they're buying, or just don't care, and they buy a gun from somebody, and then they get told, you're going to prison for it.
This is destroying- look, the equity people should absolutely be on board with this.
Because you're creating young- you're creating- you're making these young men felons.
Now they can't vote, now they have a harder time getting jobs, it creates a cycle of poverty.
I'm not about that.
I think that's wrong.
I think they have a right to keep and bear arms.
And I think there should be lawsuits to define exactly what they're doing wrong and what they can do in Illinois.
And I think Illinois is overbearing, draconian laws.
And I think Illinois absolutely has a bunch of racist politicians.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Well, and it should be pointed out, and I'm gonna let you go through them, but Chicago has maybe the strictest gun laws in the state and the worst murder rates.
tim pool
Yeah, they have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
jeremy thequartering hambly
If only criminals would follow the law.
tim pool
But there are a lot of issues with gun violence that aren't being addressed by anything they're doing.
And so all I can really say is defend the rights of these people.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Legal gun owners aren't going down to the hood and firing bullets into people's houses.
tim pool
No, no, here's the issue.
Some illegal gun owners aren't doing that either there are people so like this right, but it's like the case it no no
No, we don't we don't have the exact numbers But this dude in Hawaii is filing a suit because they said
he was not legally allowed to possess his gun was he not?
I don't know exactly what happened in a circumstance, but I tell you this
There are a lot of people, there was one story I read, I think this might be it, I'm not sure, where a guy illegally bought a gun and he said, it's my right to keep and bear arms to protect my family and it's none of the government's business how I got it or why I'm not committing any crimes.
jeremy thequartering hambly
I support that.
tim pool
You can't just say because I have the gun I committed a crime.
He didn't.
So I know this for a fact in Chicago.
There are a lot of people who illegally have guns.
I know many people in Chicago throughout my life who never committed a crime and illegally had guns.
Seriously.
White people, black people, Latino people.
Because it's just impossible to go through the motions.
Now there was a big court case where Illinois was forced to allow people to actually get guns, but they do this BS thing where it's called like a May issue state where they're like, you need a legitimate reason to own a gun.
Constitution doesn't say that, okay?
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
So I think you need to find people who have standing.
The problem is I think the NRA is not interested in actually helping gun rights.
I don't think they care.
I think they play politics for money.
I want to see a gun rights advocacy group go there and find some dude.
He's got a wife and he's got kids.
And you'll hear these stories because I've heard them before and he says, listen man, gun violence in Chicago is really bad.
I gotta protect my family.
I don't want to hurt anybody.
I don't want to commit any crimes.
What do I do when one of these other criminals with an illegal gun comes into my home?
I'm not allowed to protect myself?
That sounds like a good family man to me.
And it sounds like they're oppressing him with BS racist gun control laws.
jeremy thequartering hambly
It's not racist.
No, it isn't.
tim pool
Gun control was started because they were mad the Black Panthers had guns.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, but what you're talking about is somebody that did a straw purchase, potentially, or obtained a gun illegally, and neither of those examples have anything to do with their skin color.
What I'm saying is, I agree.
There should be a gun with every 12-pack of beer sold.
If everyone in that gas in that grocery store in Boulder heaven forbid like I don't this is kind of a shitty thing to say but like if everyone was strapped with a guy I walked in there.
I don't know but he probably doesn't take 10 people with him.
Probably not.
tim pool
No we saw a big push against for gun control in California by Reagan because the Black Panthers were armed and they were marching around.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Right.
tim pool
And it was cheered for by... They didn't like it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They marched on the Capitol.
And that's wrong.
tim pool
And the Black Panthers have a right to keep and bear arms.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
That means they can walk around openly with them.
If you got a problem with that, and I do think there's reasonable gun control, I do think there's real arguments around this, then we need to amend the Constitution.
And if you can't do that, you have no right to impose your will on other people.
If we got problems in this country, they are dealt with by a convention of states to amend the Constitution, not by you just saying, we got 50 votes and a tiebreaker, we're gonna ram it all through.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What do you think about these people that go to, like, Chick-fil-A with their AKs and their ARs?
Open carry.
tim pool
Don't care.
jeremy thequartering hambly
In, like, a suburb.
tim pool
Not worried about it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
But what do you think that they're... What do you think they're up to?
tim pool
Making a point.
jeremy thequartering hambly
What is the point?
tim pool
That I'm allowed to do this.
And that's it.
jeremy thequartering hambly
So that's the same point the Black Panthers were making, right?
tim pool
I mean, I think the point the Black Panthers were making was that if you oppress us, we can defend ourselves from tyrannical government.
And I think every single conservative should be cheering for that, because I hear too much that people say the Second Amendment is about defending us from tyrannical government.
ian crossland
And they were also saying, yes, if you oppress us, we will defend ourselves and you are oppressing us.
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
That was basically their statement.
tim pool
So the issue is not that I don't expect any group of Americans to form militias and then go stage occupations of cities and go to war with the country.
The issue is in countries where people don't have guns, governments have no problem with violating the rights of individuals.
Basic.
jeremy thequartering hambly
They do it here though, too.
We do have guns.
tim pool
Not in certain places they don't.
Look at what happened with Breonna Taylor.
The cops were trying to serve a warrant and when they busted the door in, Breonna Taylor's boyfriend shot a cop in the leg.
Those charges were dropped.
These cops understand there is a risk to breaking into the home of somebody because they may be armed.
Now here's the point.
Do we want a society where cops know they can kick your door in for any reason at any point and there's nothing you can do to stop them?
Of course not.
Or do we want them to have a reasonable concern about violating the Fourth Amendment rights of an individual because the Second Amendment exists?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Of course.
tim pool
I don't want anyone getting shot.
I don't want anyone getting hurt.
But a society where the government recognizes you go into the wrong house illegally, bad things could happen, means they're more likely to get the proper search warrants and serve it properly.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Are you implying that Breonna Taylor was not a lawful entry though?
tim pool
So, the cops are arguing they gave a warning and they busted the door in.
jeremy thequartering hambly
There are witnesses that corroborate that, too.
tim pool
That they gave a warning.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah.
And then, regardless... Now, I'm saying witnesses could be whatever.
But, I mean, there are people that corroborate that.
tim pool
The nuances of the Brenna Taylor case is not my... Yeah, let's not go down that road.
jeremy thequartering hambly
We're on Super Chats.
tim pool
My point is that even though Brenna Taylor's boyfriend shot a cop, the charges were dropped because people have a Second Amendment right to bear arms and defend themselves when someone kicks the door in and just enters their home.
ian crossland
Yeah, and in other countries, he'd probably be executed.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Absolutely.
tim pool
In other countries, there's no fear from the government at all in any capacity.
So cops will break into someone's house and just abuse people because they have nothing to worry about.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Why don't we talk about that?
Excuse me.
Why don't we talk about the Biden headline where Biden was pushing?
Was I in the little boy's room?
tim pool
Well, let's do this.
Let's do a couple more Super Chats and then we'll get really heavy on this stuff in the extended members only segment.
Deepness.
Adrian Sutton says, Jesus Christ, no.
Sweet Tim, gun control started after Civil War because the Klan did not want black Americans armed.
NRA caved on their virtues after the Black Panther Party stormed the Capitol armed.
Absolutely, to clarify.
What I meant to say is that a big portion of gun control started with California and the Black Panthers, but you're right.
It absolutely goes way, way, way far back.
I'm not a fan of people violating the Constitution.
You want to change it?
I'm all for it.
It can be amended.
But right now, the problem we have is hyperpolarization and one party thinking that they can upend the Constitution without consequence.
You can't do that.
There are many things you and I might disagree on or be mad about.
I don't like the idea of people walking around, driving around in cars with 50 BMG full-auto, you know, cruiser, belt-fed, whatever.
I'm like, that's kind of crazy.
However, so long as the Constitution exists, I'm tired of hearing this BS.
If you want to own a belt-fed 50 BMG, whatever, I have no problem with it.
But I think cities will face problems if everyone's walking around with, you know, 556 ARs or whatever, because people act a fool.
Especially drunk people.
jeremy thequartering hambly
That's exactly what I was going to say.
When alcohol gets involved, it's like you go to the Western Times, right?
You go to the bar, you know what you do?
I kicked something down.
You hand your pistols to the bartender, you know, like when you get drunk.
ian crossland
Interesting.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
We'll read one more.
PirateWing says, Tim, I've been a podcast listener for the better part of a year.
Big fan.
I've heard a lot of people promote themselves on stream, so I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring.
I stream on Twitch at twitch.tv slash PirateWing.
Well, congratulations for the shout out, and thanks to everybody who's listening.
We're gonna go, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about more Second Amendment stuff.
Jeremy's gonna call somebody out over at TimCast.com, so go to TimCast.com.
Become a member because at about 11 or so we will have a bonus segment up there usually about a half an hour because sometimes we just talk for a long time sometimes they go longer than that and uh thanks for hanging out make sure you smash the like button share the link to this show if you really like this podcast make sure you're sharing the link and letting people know it exists I had an interesting conversation.
I was asked by, you know, we're hiring this dude and he was like, so how much money have you spent in marketing?
And I was like, none.
And he was like, no, no, I mean like for the entirety of your shows, how much have you marketed the show?
And I was like, we haven't.
And he was like, wait, you mean your growth is all organic?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And I was like, I didn't know there was anything else.
It's like, okay, well we're going to actually do some marketing.
What that means is y'all are awesome and you are sharing the show and that's how the show becomes bigger.
So thank you so much for that.
You can follow me across the board at Timcast.
My other YouTube channels are YouTube.com slash Timcast.
YouTube.com slash Timcast News.
This show is live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
We'll be back tomorrow again with Jeremy.
Jeremy, you want to shout out your channels?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Hey, well, you know, hey, first shout out to the wonderful Tiffany and Lydia for bringing me here and Tim for paying for my trip.
I think we share a lot of audience but basically I cover what Tim doesn't cover.
Yeah, we're basically besties.
tim pool
We're gonna rag on Magic the Gathering.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, I mean, I think we share a lot of audience, but basically I cover what Tim doesn't cover.
I cover boring pop culture stuff at the recording, so I hope you check it out.
But I do hope you join Tim's show, TimCast.com, because I'd like to come back, and I can't come back if Tim doesn't have money to pay for my ticket.
I really hope everyone had a good time, and I'm sorry I didn't argue with the chat.
I wanted to rival the dislike record.
Um, from a previous guest, but I think I'll just say smash the like button for, for me.
Thank you.
If you're one of my viewers and you just came out because I had a sweet intro of me rescuing a kitten from Tim, make sure you subscribe to his podcast.
I know Tim doesn't have time to watch my videos, but it was a great intro.
ian crossland
That was good.
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, I like that a lot.
The gangster kiddie one, yeah.
ian crossland
Before I give my goodbyes, what's the beginning of the name The Quartering?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Oh, quite simply, it's just the literal quartering, being drawn and quartered.
ian crossland
Like cut into quarters?
jeremy thequartering hambly
Yeah, like the horse thing.
But in the way that pop culture gets destroyed by the pull of various media, you know, political identities, you know, pull you in all directions.
ian crossland
Thank you for putting that to rest in my mind.
I'm Ian Crossland.
You guys can follow me at iancrossland.net.
Check out all my socials there.
jeremy thequartering hambly
You cheap motherfucker.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Another Ian Crossland.
I was like, I got to get, I started doing YouTube videos in 2006.
I was like, I got to get iancrossland.com.
I waited like two months and some dude bought it.
lydia smith
The other Ian Crossland.
ian crossland
There he is out there.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm Sour Patch Lids, and I have to be real Sour Patch Lids on a few different platforms as well, but on Twitter and Mines, I'm just real Sour Patch Lids.
jeremy thequartering hambly
And on OnlyFans, it's OnlyFans.com slash Sour Patch Lids.
tim pool
No, this is nothing.
lydia smith
Zero things on OnlyFans.
Thanks though, Jeremy.
tim pool
Normally now I'd tell you that there's going to be a Profanity Laced bonus segment, but I think we already covered Profanity Laced in this episode, so go to TimCast.com, become a member, and we will see you all there.
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