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March 22, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Miami Spring Break RIOTS Erupt, 1000+ Arrests, Twerking Blocks Streets w/Chrissie Mayr
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This time, the riots are taking place in Spring Break, Miami, where over 1,000 arrests have been made, and apparently the cops came out with pepper balls because, well, people are shutting down roads, they're refusing to disperse, and according to one headline, Several women began twerking on a police car.
Two officers were injured.
Now, I have to say, like, upon reading the headline, I really do make it sound like the cops got injured from the twerking.
I'm not entirely sure that's what happened, so we'll have to go into the story.
But there are tons of viral videos coming out now where women in Miami during spring break are just, like, blocking roads, just walking on the street.
They all randomly just start twerking in the street.
It is a sight to behold.
And this contributes to the cops coming out with pepper balls, which is a really weird story.
So we got that.
We're going to get into that.
And cancel culture is in the news because apparently, well, look, for the longest time, the woke thought it wasn't racist to insult Asians.
And now they've decided that's not true.
And Asians are marginalized.
So all these old statements are coming back up.
People are going to lose their jobs.
One woman, she's like a writer for Robot Chicken, is getting just dragged across the coals.
And that'll be interesting.
And look at another big story.
CNN is accused of staging or knowingly running staged video of a migrant border crossing.
So we'll talk about this, a bunch of other stuff.
We are joined tonight by comedian Chrissy Mayer.
unidentified
Hello, thanks for having me.
tim pool
Do you want to just briefly introduce yourself?
unidentified
Oh, yes.
My name's Chrissy Mayer.
I am a comedian, New York-based.
I have a podcast called The Chrissy Mayer Podcast, which you can see on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, SoundCloud, new episodes Tuesday through Friday.
I interview comedians, porn stars, libertarians.
There's something for everybody.
And I have a big stand-up comedy tour coming up right now.
Actually, check out my website, chrissymayer.com, for tickets.
Hopefully I can do stand-up in a city near you.
tim pool
Wow.
That was like the best introduction anyone's done on the show.
People are normally like, oh, I guess I do a thing or whatever.
Thanks.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
We also have Ian.
ian crossland
Get ready for mine.
What's up everybody?
unidentified
Hi.
ian crossland
Ian Crossland.
What's up?
lydia smith
What's up?
I just woke up.
unidentified
I love you.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
And Lydia.
lydia smith
Me in the corner.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I'm going to be laughing a lot tonight.
I'm super excited about this show.
Let's get going.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe.
I forgot to pull up the... Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
We're very well prepared this evening.
There we go.
tim pool
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ian crossland
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All right, let's get into this first story, because this is the greatest headline I've ever seen.
All right, check this out.
This is from local10.com.
Wild night in Miami Beach.
Women twerk on police car.
Two officers injured.
So my question right away is, did the cops get hurt from the twerking?
ian crossland
Undoubtedly.
unidentified
It was a wild Friday night in South Beach.
with your legs up.
You know?
tim pool
Gross.
Okay, so this story is actually from March 12th, but I want to read it because now it's
actually getting really crazy.
They say, it was a wild Friday night in South Beach.
There were even women who jumped on a police car to twerk.
The city is swarming with spring breakers.
Miami Beach officer Ernesto Rodriguez, a spokesman for the department, said two officers were injured while dealing with a very large crowd near 8th Street and Ocean Drive.
So perhaps twerking was involved.
While taking a subject into custody, officers were forced to utilize pepper balls to disperse members of the crowd who were disorderly and surrounding officers.
Several subjects have been detained, two officers were injured, and have been transported to the hospital.
More police officers are enforcing the rules in the area of Ocean Drive and Collins and Washington Avenues from 5th to 16th Street, including Española Way.
All package liquor sales ceased after 8 p.m.
So apparently now what's going on is there's like this crazy curfew.
We got this story just from today from The Guardian.
More than 1,000 arrests as Miami Beach pushes spring break curfew into April.
Police condemned for use of pepper balls to break up crowds.
Now apparently over a couple weeks, spring break curfew in place between Thursdays and Sundays.
Now, I don't know if you guys have seen all these viral videos that have come out.
It's crazy out there.
ian crossland
A little bit of them.
unidentified
It's pretty crazy.
I mean, are they using salt balls as well?
That way maybe they can season the food?
Oh, and pepper balls?
Yeah, yeah.
Because a lot of these are happening at restaurants.
lydia smith
Exactly.
ian crossland
Perfect.
Yeah, right, people aren't paying their bills.
unidentified
Yeah, they're walking out.
tim pool
Yeah, do you see the video?
There's like a video where two guys wearing aprons just chasing a dude full speed down the street.
unidentified
And then he tries to get away.
He's like doo-doo-doo-doo walking, then he ducks out.
He does like a ninja roll.
tim pool
Yeah, I saw that.
Dude, what's going on with this man?
unidentified
Just don't order as many drinks, you know?
Just order what you can pay for.
I don't know.
lydia smith
It's shocking.
tim pool
It's chaos.
So there's a thread going viral.
That's talking about how these are not people from Miami.
Like Miami did really well.
And I guess what some people are saying is that because Florida is basically like no COVID.
Tons of like no lockdown.
Tons of people are like well then we have to go to Florida.
Because you can't do it in New York or some of these blue states.
So they're all coming to Florida.
Red state for now.
Swing state but red for now.
Where there's no restrictions and they're just going crazy.
Like there's one video I saw where apparently there's like cars at an intersection.
And then a bunch of women just walking down the street.
All just stop.
And then it's like synchronized twerking.
It's like the craziest thing.
unidentified
I mean, that is gonna stop traffic.
If you're low on people to help you cross the street, just send a lady twerking out there and she'll help divert traffic.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like if you've got kids coming out of school.
You don't need to hire a crossing guard anymore.
ian crossland
Just twerking guards.
unidentified
Yeah, road twerk.
I love it.
tim pool
So for real, why is this happening?
Because there's too many people?
They're overwhelmed?
unidentified
People have been cooped up for too long.
They haven't been twerking for like a year now.
lydia smith
True.
That's fair.
tim pool
So given the opportunity, they just break out in a twerk.
ian crossland
It seems like it's supposed to be spring break from school.
But a lot of those people, I mean, is school even open?
tim pool
Are people even doing online school now?
And they're just showing up and twerking in the streets.
ian crossland
It's like I was wondering, you'd think that New York would be the state that would be getting wrecked because they're the one that shut down.
But all those people that are flooding to Florida and wrecking Florida.
unidentified
There's nothing to come to New York for.
What are you going to flood New York City for?
Like a hot dog stand?
Like the hot dog stands open?
Barely.
Yeah.
They're like covered in plastic.
It's a sad sight.
Yeah.
tim pool
Are you in New York?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Comedy clubs, some things are opening up April 2nd, so we'll see.
There's some hope, but it's- it's the city's dead.
It's like somebody sucked the soul out of it.
tim pool
I don't know, I saw a video from a guy who was walking down the street in a really wealthy area saying that it was totally fine.
unidentified
Oh, well, having money helps, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I guess the poor areas that are shut down.
It's interesting to see the amount of chaos you get from like totally apolitical
things like spring break when there's just enough people who don't care.
They go crazy.
The funny thing about it is we're probably seeing more like, I guess, anarchy than you see with actual anarchists.
Isn't that the weirdest thing?
And I mean, like, left anarchist types.
I don't like calling them anarchists because the people who get violent like Antifa, they're not really anarchists, but let me rephrase that.
When Antifa goes out, they fight with cops.
These people are just, like, robbing small businesses, not paying bills, shutting down traffic.
It's random, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, it's totally random.
They're just like, you know what?
I can't twerk over Zoom.
I have to go out into the street and do this.
Spread your legs.
Yeah, man.
ian crossland
Your muscles.
unidentified
You gotta meet that Spring Break boyfriend, like, in the first couple of days.
And then you have a week of, you know, hookups.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
1,000 arrests, though.
lydia smith
Smart, yeah.
tim pool
Check this out.
The Guardian says police say they have arrested more than 1,000 people, about twice as many as last year, during this Spring Break season.
They say the curfews are necessary to maintain order, according to the local CBS affiliate.
City Manager Raul Aguila told the news station that he believes visitors have traveled to Miami Beach to engage in lawlessness and anything-goes party attitude.
Aguila claimed many visitors are not patronizing local businesses or spending tourism dollars during their time in Florida.
The Miami Herald reported that police have utilized pepper balls to disperse crowds several times this spring break season, describing the tactic as balls that are fired at the ground that emit tear gas, forcing people within a certain distance to move to avoid the eye irritant.
The Miami Beach Police Chief Richard Clements told the paper that officers fired the projectiles because the crowd had begun to surge towards officers.
This is crazy.
Quote, I think officers felt threatened at the time.
He said, adding that at least five officers have been injured during spring break this year.
Video of large crowds and tear gassing by police in the city have circulated online.
It's like, on a scale of one to three, of groups that engage in violent and dangerous riots, the most egregious, number one, is random people partying, followed by Antifa, followed by Trump supporters, just because those are the only groups that are actually engaging in this.
I'm kidding, by the way, because Antifa, literally, and Black Lives Matter burned down an entire city.
ian crossland
But these people are getting super drunk, and that's when stuff can go haywire, like the animal comes out.
unidentified
Yeah, there's definitely a Venn diagram of like people who would throw a chair like through a window.
It's like Spring Breakers, like Antifa.
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yep.
Yep.
ian crossland
Antifa on Spring Break.
Do you think these people are Antifa?
unidentified
The Antifa people need to party too.
lydia smith
They need to relax.
ian crossland
Everybody gotta party.
tim pool
Yeah, they got, like, sticks up their butt, you know?
They really need this.
Maybe that's what's happening.
Maybe they're so uptight, you know, they show up to this party, like, thinking they're gonna party, but then just everyone's having a good time, and then all of a sudden some dude throws a chair through a window, you know what I mean?
unidentified
And they've been so covered up for a year.
They've been, like, their costumes, or whatever, they're not costumes, their get-ups, it's like they're all covered up, they're pale, they need to get out.
lydia smith
That's true.
unidentified
They need their vitamin D.
tim pool
No, you know, some of the most destructive riots I've seen, obviously not the most, have been just like sporting events.
And then you hear this from a lot of people on the left.
unidentified
They'll be like, how come when, you know, people riot over their sports team winning, it's not all the criticism?
tim pool
Like, dude, we criticize that.
It's crazy.
I remember when the White Sox won the World Series, like however many years, like a decade ago, long time ago, longer than a decade ago.
Man, this is probably like 13 years ago.
They were crazy stories like my friends were telling me that a guy there's just tons of people in the street on the south side of Chicago and they're all just like screaming and drunk and like shaking cars and flipping them over and then he said like a guy was driving down Archer and then just like swerved dodged the crowd crashed into a pole and then jumped out and started cheering and then ran into the crowd like leaving his car there like people go crazy People get excited for their sports teams.
Yeah.
I guess I have to wonder about this.
Is that what really drives things like Minneapolis when it got burned down?
Just random people taking advantage and fluffing up the ranks?
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
Probably.
Taking advantage, like these people that aren't paying their tabs, they're eating at restaurants and then jumping.
tim pool
Yup.
ian crossland
That's that's big.
That's big time.
lydia smith
What's that?
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
unidentified
I'm just imagine like this is also pre-planned.
You're like ordering.
You're like, OK, I don't want to eat too much because when I get into a fight, like I don't want to, you know, I don't want to throw it up.
I don't want to be full.
Like I don't want to puke while I'm throwing someone's head into the sidewalk.
tim pool
Physical activity after you eat a bunch of food, it doesn't feel good.
You gotta have a rest period.
unidentified
A lot of wigs coming off.
I mean, you gotta be prepared.
I don't know, it's giving me anxiety just thinking about it.
ian crossland
This is freaking me out.
unidentified
Like, what to wear.
And I don't know how it happens in these fights.
The women just end up partially nude.
The thongs are out.
All of a sudden you'll turn around like they'll be fighting and then someone's top, someone's boobs will be out.
And you'll be like, how did that?
Oh, God!
lydia smith
What's happening?
tim pool
It's just crazy to hear this.
ian crossland
I wasn't expecting it, but I'm not surprised.
tim pool
I guess people have been locked up for so long they've gone insane.
A lot of people are just going crazy.
You were mentioning this, but also I think when you factor in, there's very few places to actually go.
You get critical mass.
Now they're just in Miami and they're just twerking and stealing drinks.
unidentified
And when you have pent up energy, it's like guys, the guys that want to fight are going to go out looking for a fight and the girls that like want to fight, you know what I mean?
You're going out kind of with that energy or you're like just going to hook up.
It's kind of either way.
tim pool
The fight videos are crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a lot of videos like this.
There's a big viral thread.
There's a lot of racist threads, too, because there's a lot of just like people like sharing these specific videos.
But there's a lot of different people doing a lot of crazy stuff.
It's almost like a sporting event, but just no reason at all.
ian crossland
Right.
And there's anti-cop sentiment, I imagine.
unidentified
Yes, because I've read that like the cops like this has been building up over time.
It's not it's obviously not a COVID thing.
It's like it's building up over time.
And like going back to 2019, a lot of these cops I've read are afraid to basically do their jobs because they don't want to be accused of racist policing.
tim pool
Yeah, so when you get, like, people blocking intersections and twerking, and the cops get hurt, I bet there's a lot of people down there, they're probably not super political, but the Black Lives Matter narrative really does permeate everything.
So we just went, we were at the mall the other day hanging out, and we went to Izumi's, and there was a poster on the wall that was just like, it was the weirdest thing for me to see in Izumi's.
It was like a poster that said, I stand with Black Lives Matter, Breonna Taylor, free healthcare, increasing the minimum wage.
And I'm like, I'm in a mall skate shop.
What is this?
Like, why is there a poster for Black Lives Matter, Breonna Taylor?
But also, like, that I could get, I suppose.
But like, the Democrat talking points were on that too.
And I'm just like, it's kind of weird to see.
I don't care, whatever, you can put up whatever poster you want, I don't care, I'm gonna buy shoes or something.
But it's just like, when regular people who normally don't engage in this stuff are getting hit with this, I'm willing to bet there's anti-cop sentiment for sure in these Spring Break riots, where they're just like, F the police, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Why don't all of us go to Miami right now and start twerking in the street?
I think that would help the narrative.
tim pool
I got a better idea.
Why don't we get the cops to twerk with the people in the street?
lydia smith
Solidarity.
tim pool
Yeah.
Solidarity.
unidentified
You know, like if it's enough twerking, maybe it'll be like a Care Bear stare.
Everyone comes together and that's how unity happens.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe like, you know, when all the cops took a knee during the Black Lives Matter stuff, maybe the cops need to take a twerk.
And they should all go out there to apologize for using pepper balls on people.
Take a twerk, guys.
Twerk during the national anthem at a basketball game or whatever.
unidentified
It would definitely dissolve tension.
It would crack people up.
tim pool
It would freak people out.
ian crossland
Do you think they're going to cancel spring break next year?
unidentified
How can you cancel spring break?
I don't know.
tim pool
You can't cancel it.
It's not, it's not really a thing.
It's like people just showed up.
People just went to Florida and then there was too many people.
I'll tell you what freaks me out is like, is this what people do when there's too many people?
Somebody, somebody messaged us like last week about the rat utopia experiment.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Have you ever heard of this?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They created the space where they put a bunch of rats in this Rathouse.
unidentified
You mean New York City?
tim pool
Yeah, so basically they made a model of New York.
No, I'm kidding.
They took like a rat city and they gave him an unlimited supply of food and water and whatever and they just like went nuts apparently started eating each other.
Some just literally just dropped dead.
So, like, they reproduced, and reproduced, and then eventually they reached, like, this massive population, but there was still just free food, nothing to worry about, and then they- the rats apparently started breaking down, going crazy, eating each other, and just dying.
And so I'm wondering, like...
You get too many people, and this is what we see.
Like, uh, I was in New York when, I can't remember which New York team won the Super Bowl or something.
It was back in, like, 2012, I think.
I don't know.
I don't know sports.
You guys give me the right year.
People were just, like, throwing garbage cans and trash everywhere, just flipping things over.
And it was just tens of thousands of people walking through the streets, just trashing everything.
For- for no reason.
unidentified
Yeah, if somebody else starts doing it, it's easier to chime in, I guess.
And I think part of the reason is, I think people are afraid to go, like, you think about the normal spring break destinations, Cancun, maybe Ibiza.
I know I'm saying it wrong.
It's supposed to be Ibiza.
But maybe people are afraid to travel internationally now because of health stuff.
So maybe that means everyone's just going to stay domestic and then go to Florida.
tim pool
Yes, which brings him to the we'll jump over the next story on this one because it's how crazy things have gotten with COVID.
So when you when you see what's happening in Miami and this insanity, I'm not surprised that people are doing crazy stuff because people kind of lost their minds over the past year.
I'm sure most people who are listening to this can probably relate in some way to how Awful, the lockdowns were.
I immediately got out of the city.
I went to the middle of nowhere.
Well, not immediately.
I mean, I was in the suburbs already, so things weren't that bad.
And then we went out to the middle of nowhere, where things are fantastic.
You ask somebody who lives in the middle of nowhere, how is the lockdown been?
They'll be like, haven't noticed.
Check this out.
We got this from express.co.uk.
Holidays overseas.
To be made illegal.
£5,000 fine for people trying to leave Britain.
If you're in Britain, and you try to leave, they will fine you £5,000, which is basically like £7,000.
unidentified
Damn.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah, so I'm glad I don't live there, but I can imagine people are going to start going crazy.
You know what's really crazy about this story is, the UK is basically now the plot of V for Vendetta.
Like, almost.
Do you know what the V for Vendetta plot is?
unidentified
I saw it so long ago.
ian crossland
Yes, I am.
tim pool
So it's basically, and again, I'm explaining the plot for V for Vendetta.
I am not asserting any conspiracy theories about COVID.
V for Vendetta is about these corrupt politicians and crony corporate types
who manufacture a virus to use as a pretext to gain authoritarian control of the country.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
So I'm not saying that's literally what happened in the UK.
I'm saying it's making people say that.
Because you get the pandemic, which affected everybody.
And then you get the UK, like they arrest people for jokes.
Now if you try to leave, £5,000.
unidentified
What if you're just sick of the weather, you know?
tim pool
What if you're like... Can't leave.
unidentified
I've had it.
I'm gonna fix my teeth.
Let me get out of here.
tim pool
We're all in this together, Chrissy.
You can't leave.
unidentified
Dang.
tim pool
This is the crazy thing, too, because I've been hitting up people like, you know, I hit up Count Dankula, and I hit up Carl Benjamin.
I'm like, yo, when can we get you out here?
Things are starting to improve over here across the pond, and they're like, if we try and leave, we'll be, like, arrested and fined.
And then what happens if you don't pay the fine?
I imagine they'll like maybe like Dankula just take it from your bank account or they'll arrest you or something.
unidentified
I don't know, get a disguise?
tim pool
Well no, how are you supposed to leave?
You go to the airport and they just arrest you.
Check this out, from the Telegraph.
People caught without a reasonable excuse for travel will be in breach of regulations from March 29th under new road map rules.
You got a week.
ian crossland
Oh man.
tim pool
You got a week to leave.
ian crossland
I was going to say get out while you still can, but I don't want to push anyone.
tim pool
Look at this.
Oh, it's for spring break.
Yeah, they call it Easter break.
Number 10.
Indicated the £5,000 fine was designed to deter anyone thinking of going abroad for an Easter break in defiance of the ban on foreign travel.
It will apply to both Britain's and European citizens living in the UK amid fears that anyone going abroad for a holiday or family reunion could import new COVID variants on their return.
The only exemptions to the travel ban are for work, study, moving house, or attending a major family event such as a birth, wedding, or funeral.
I mean, that's kind of a lot of exceptions, to be honest.
unidentified
Does it say anything about twerking?
tim pool
Actually, that is allowed.
Yes, if they catch you in the airport twerking, they will not fire you.
unidentified
Right, they must be going to Miami.
tim pool
Go to Miami?
All right, that's fine.
They are part of the government's new regulations enacting Boris Johnson's roadmap out of lockdown and laid in parliament on Monday.
They state that no one may leave England to travel to a destination outside the United Kingdom, or travel to, or be present at an embarkation point for the purpose of traveling from there to a destination outside the United Kingdom without a reasonable excuse.
So like, I guess you could literally be in the airport, and they could stop you and be like, why are you traveling?
And you're like, for fun?
You're under arrest.
Really is the meme about needing a license for everything?
You know, in the UK?
The joke is that in the UK you need a license for everything you do?
Jesus.
ian crossland
Man, I don't want to dump on people that are British citizens.
I feel bad for those people.
Well, they're called subjects, which is crazy.
tim pool
British subjects.
ian crossland
Like, are they citizens?
Are they subjects?
Are they both?
What the heck?
They're a subject?
unidentified
Yeah, that's weird.
ian crossland
To someone?
That's so crazy.
tim pool
It's really amazing to watch happen, to be honest.
Because we've had it pretty bad in the U.S.
with the draconian lockdown stuff.
But I mean, wow.
You can't even leave?
unidentified
It puts it into perspective.
And I read somewhere that you can't even leave your house in France without like a paper, I don't know, like a note from your doctor?
I don't know.
tim pool
You need some kind of proof that you're supposed to be out of your house.
And apparently, I think in Greece, you have to text the cops or at least they were doing this.
You have to text the cops and be like, yo, I'm going to leave.
And they'd be like, all right, you're good.
Or they'll be like, no, you can't leave.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, man, that's living in high density, you know what I mean?
So if you look at the weird thing about all of this You look at Europe and it's like basically the size of the u.s But with 600 million people instead of 330 million people and then you hear about places like Greece if you've ever been to France Really really dense in the big cities, but it's just in the cities.
So why is it affecting like everybody?
Why is like Everybody in Britain's trapped, you can't leave.
I wonder too, it's like, can you go to Northern Ireland?
And then if you go to Northern Ireland, can you drive into Ireland?
And then once you're in Ireland, are you good?
This has been one of the weirdest things about the UK.
I'm sure people in the UK and in Europe probably understand better.
But, you know, Northern Ireland is part of the UK.
Ireland is not.
So... And because of the treaty that... I forget what it's called.
I don't know if it's the Good Friday Treaty or whatever.
There's not supposed to be any border checkpoint between Northern Ireland and, you know, Ireland.
So then how does that work for, like, the European Union and this lockdown?
Could you just drive through and then fly out?
Yeah, and then fly out from like Dublin or something or whatever.
I don't know.
What other Irish cities are there?
unidentified
It probably helps to just, you know, do a lot of accents.
You know, you get stopped.
You're like, Oi!
Oi!
tim pool
You tried.
unidentified
My attempt was made.
Oi?
Oi!
What is that?
Arr!
No!
I'm going to Australia!
lydia smith
Oh no!
tim pool
Well, it doesn't say Australian citizens.
So at what point do people kind of like just lose their mind?
Maybe they go twerk.
This is the other side of that coin, right?
We talk about the shutting down of Miami due to the twerking pandemic.
And that's like the people saying enough and just twerking in the streets.
But then in the UK, it's the opposite.
It's like the hardcore lockdown, maybe to stop people from having too much fun.
Well, I mean just from doing anything.
I don't know.
ian crossland
So crazy.
tim pool
The crazy thing about it is the COVID's survival rate.
Yeah.
99.95 for most people.
97.5 for people over the age of 70.
Yet they just shut down the entire country.
You can't leave or they'll fine you.
That's weird.
ian crossland
Almost the world.
They shut down like almost the entire world over this thing.
tim pool
Well, I mean, I understand.
I get the pandemic stuff.
They're like, hey, there's a pandemic, so we got to restrict travel.
It's like it's like the gameplay game, you know, and the virus happens like Iceland shuts down and then you're like, oh, we get in Iceland and you can't win the game then.
But this is crazy.
This is them a year later shutting down their borders and not letting anyone leave with a ninety nine point nine five percent.
ian crossland
Yeah.
And then wasn't it like 60 percent, 72 percent of people that have contracted COVID were overweight or obese?
lydia smith
78 percent.
tim pool
Who died of it, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That's that's crazy, man.
ian crossland
Like, I would feel weird constricting travel only on obese people.
That feels wrong.
unidentified
How about you can go like obese people can travel, but only for going to the gym.
tim pool
Yes, they shut the gyms down.
unidentified
If you're going on a hike and you're over a certain weight.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
The UK has been crazy.
There was a video where somebody was out in the middle of nowhere early on in the pandemic and they got stopped by a cop.
And the cop was like, what are you doing outside?
And they're like, I'm in the middle of nowhere walking.
They were like, you're under arrest.
And then there was a viral photo where the cops were like, think you're out for a stroll in the middle of nowhere?
We'll find you!
No joke.
And people were like, what?
That's creepy, dude.
Man, they're locking everybody in Britain down.
That's what happens when you don't have a constitution.
ian crossland
Yeah, they do, right?
They have one, but it's not, what is it, the parliamentary constitution or something?
tim pool
It's an unwritten, interpretable, vaguely understood, quote unquote, constitution.
ian crossland
And the Queen has all the power.
At the end of the day, she just chooses not to exercise it.
tim pool
Yeah, she's quitting soon, isn't she?
ian crossland
Who's she giving power to?
Who's she ceding control to?
tim pool
I have no idea.
unidentified
Charles, maybe?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Prince Charles?
unidentified
It's probably really good for, like, single ladies who really want to meet, like, a police officer boyfriend.
So they just, like, go out by themselves, like, look really good, and like, come get me!
tim pool
Like Envy for Vendetta!
Like in V for Vendetta.
What's her name?
Evie Hammond.
It's Natalie Portman.
They're called the Finger Men.
And they stop her in the dark alley.
And they're gonna, you know, try to abuse her.
lydia smith
The Finger Men.
tim pool
That's what they're called.
And then she's like, oh no, you're a Finger Men.
I didn't No, and then V shows up and he does that speech where every word's up to the letter V. That movie's great, by the way.
I'm just wondering at what point any of these people, they're gonna lose their minds and do something to counter what the government's doing because, I mean, there was a period where there was a large group of British subjects who got really angry and then wrote this big thing to the king like, yo, FBO, we're not British subjects no more.
And we've been doing all right over here for some time.
Them over there, they're not going so well.
unidentified
It's crazy.
And all this talk about, like, different countries makes me realize how little I've truly traveled in my life.
ian crossland
Where have you gone?
unidentified
Really?
Just, like, Italy, France, Canada, briefly.
Canada doesn't count.
I went to Iceland only because it was basically on sale, like, 10 years ago.
Like, you'd see the ads, like, in New York City, mostly on the subway, like, please, please come to Iceland.
Like, we know you're going somewhere else, but can you just, like, stop here on the way?
Almost like a desperate, like, girlfriend.
Please just come visit.
ian crossland
They had just overthrown their government and started a new one in 2008.
tim pool
It was the banking thing.
unidentified
Yeah, I went in 2008.
tim pool
What's that airline they had?
unidentified
Icelandair?
tim pool
No, it was Wow Air.
And it was like, are you going to Spain?
Take Wow Air.
It stops for three hours in Iceland.
Because then they want you to spend money at the airport.
ian crossland
Shout out to Iceland.
I mean, they actually overthrew their corrupt banking and then Seized control of their government and created a new more democratic situation.
tim pool
I don't know about that though I think what people need to realize about these countries any one of these countries particularly Europe is Monoculture creates social enforcement for anything they want if you've got a tribalistic dogmatic monoculture then one person can act as a despot because everyone just says okay to whatever the machine is like you see it with cancel culture and You know, you get someone who's prominent enough to ignite or like light, you know, plant that seed of some new idea.
And if they're prominent enough, people will just latch onto it and then it works.
And that social enforcement causes problems for everybody.
ian crossland
That's what makes me nervous about God save the queen, man.
And I really, you guys, in England, I'm not doing this.
It's not personal.
It just terrifies me that there's this cult of personality surrounding your liege lord.
Like, it's crazy.
tim pool
That's true for everywhere with kings, bro.
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
But people love their monarchs.
ian crossland
Some of them.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, but like when I was in... But do you love the monarchy?
When I was in Thailand, you know, like five, oh man, like seven years ago now, when they were doing the whole monarchist versus parliamentarian protests, like even the people who were for like a democratic process with a prime minister would talk about how amazing the king was.
Like he was a really good dude who helped out people and used his power properly, but it's time to move on.
That was really interesting to me.
There were some people who disparaged the monarchy for sure, but then they would always be like, well, but we really do like the king because he's kind of a cool guy.
So like the king in Thailand would use resources to like help the poor and like teach people to read and do things like that.
So everyone was kind of just like, oh, monarchy sucks, but this guy's kind of cool.
But apparently nobody likes his son, so I don't know.
I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on Thailand or anything like that.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's usually a bad king when it falls apart.
King John of England was when they forced the, uh, what was that thing they made him sign?
The Magna Carta?
lydia smith
Yep.
ian crossland
Basically seized control from the monarchy to a bunch of the dukes, and it was like the first step towards democracy.
tim pool
Yeah, Magna Carta was pretty cool.
unidentified
And then they had to duke it out.
lydia smith
Yeah, they did.
They literally had to.
ian crossland
Sure did.
Etymology.
tim pool
That's one way to put it.
Duke it out, is that where it comes from?
ian crossland
I imagine so, yeah.
lydia smith
Something like that.
ian crossland
Put up your dukes.
lydia smith
Yeah, oh yeah, huh.
You're right.
tim pool
Was that what it is?
ian crossland
It must be.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Get out of here.
lydia smith
Maybe.
ian crossland
All the dukes would go to war, man.
tim pool
What do you guys want to do?
Do you want to talk about stupid cancel culture?
Let's talk about cancel culture.
We'll rag on CNN in a little bit.
But I want to talk about this thing with Harry's razors.
For those who don't know, and I didn't know this, Harry's Razors sponsored The Daily Wire.
The Examiner reports, Harry's Razors cancels advertising relationship with The Daily Wire show, ostensibly over one Twitter user's complaint.
Let me break down for you the stupidity of cancel culture.
Michael J. Knowles, he is a podcaster, political commentary guy for The Daily Wire, a Twitter account with two followers.
Two followers.
Just two.
Apparently it's like his mom and his brother.
Tweeted at Harry saying, you sponsor a bigot, Michael J. Knowles, and he's homophobic and transphobic.
So Harry's response saying, we're so sorry, we're gonna cancel our sponsor for the show.
They tweeted, Thanks for bringing this up. We condemn the views in this
video, which are inexcusable and at odds with our long time
support of the LGBTQ plus community.
We've ended our relationship with this show, and are looking into our sponsorships to prevent any values
misalignment going forward.
Jeremy Boring says, Harry's makes great razors.
That's why we've been proud to advertise them for years.
We know Harry's doesn't share our values.
Who cares?
Economic decisions should be political decisions.
But now Harry's has decided to declare that conservatives don't deserve great razors.
Why are you still calling them great razors?
lydia smith
I wouldn't.
tim pool
Like at this point you're like, well those razors were garbage anyway.
Well, okay, all right.
Props to Daily Wire for not being sour grapes.
But this is the crazy reality of cancel culture.
An account with two followers tweets to a brand, and the brand just goes, all right, I have to wonder.
I'm going to make a bold... I'm not going to call it an accusation because I don't want to get sued.
I'm going to speculate wildly.
Could it be that when it comes to these sponsor spots, these companies know they can't legally exit a contract they want to exit?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Except for morality clauses, right?
So let's say, you know, I sponsor Ian and the contract is like a two-year deal where X amount of times per month Ian will shout out, you know, Tim's fancy water.
And then there comes a point where I'm like, yo, we're not selling as much as we thought we were going to sell.
And this ad deal seems to be a bad deal for us, but we locked in a two-year contract with them for sponsorship.
We're only, I'm only selling one bottle of water every time, you know, Ian does a shout-out, but it's costing me as much as ten bottles of water's worth for the shout-out.
I'm losing money.
Can't break the contract, right?
Ah!
But what if someone tweets, Ian is a bigot?
Now I've got a morality clause in the contract saying, oh, well, you know.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
Could basically be a bot account.
lydia smith
Yeah, it actually could be.
tim pool
Yeah, it could be a clever way.
What if cancel culture?
I obviously think there's a lot of cancel culture that is, you know, legitimate psychopaths tweeting stupid things and getting people fired.
But I have to wonder if there's a decent amount of fake cancel culture designed to help people escape contracts they don't want to be in anymore and not fulfill their obligations to these other companies.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I would say it must be because you thought of it.
I mean, that doesn't it's not not proof that it happened, but I mean, that's not that doesn't sound that complicated.
unidentified
Yeah.
Twitter is used for so many different things.
Like I remember, like Howard Stern would talk about, like they would have these sort of like And this is so many years ago, like, basically they'd have these extra accounts that they would use to help, like, get guests on the show by just tweeting at people.
Yep.
And it's kind of like it's controlled.
tim pool
Sock puppets.
unidentified
Not opposition, but like, you know, kind of manipulation.
It's creepy.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's creepy, but they do it.
They're called sock puppet accounts, where one person will have a bunch of accounts they control.
This is different from, like, a bot, for instance.
It'll be a real person behind every account.
They'll use different pictures and different names.
And so when I saw an account with two followers tweeting this at Harry's, I was like, how
did they notice that?
Like Harry's has what, tens of thousands of followers?
And this is the one thing they tweeted about and tweeted at?
I think the Daily Wire should do an investigation, figure out, you know, maybe file a claim or
something.
It's hard to do, though, because Twitter, separate company, never going to give up user
And it might just be wild speculation.
But doesn't that sound just really weird?
These circumstances?
unidentified
Yeah, you're supposed to ignore the haters.
You're supposed to like, especially ones with so few followers.
tim pool
Yeah, seriously.
Well, I will tell you this.
I am shocked and appalled.
And I tweeted about this.
And I love people are like, I can't tell if Tim's joking or not.
Harry's sponsor is a bull rider.
And, like, they made a video where they're like, we're proud to sponsor, like, the only African American bull rider in this, you know, field or whatever.
And I'm like, so let me get this straight.
They're mad at Michael J. Knowles for their perceived ideological difference, for what they support.
But they are taking a very, very hard stance on animal cruelty issues.
I'm not saying... Actually, I'll tell you straight up, I am no fan of rodeos.
I am no fan of bull riding or bull fighting, especially.
Bull riding isn't nearly as bad.
Bull fighting is nuts, and I think that stuff should be banned, absolutely.
That's legit torturing animals.
They blind them, they starve them.
And that way you can actually compete with a bull because, you know, these dudes don't have what it takes, apparently.
And then they're stabbing the bull.
That's just brutal.
Bull riding is very, very different.
That's, like, I don't like the idea of using a bull for entertainment in this way.
But I do find it fascinating where they draw the line and what ideology they're willing to support or oppose.
Because animal rights and stuff is particularly left.
You know, you've got, like, PETA and other organizations.
That's why I question about whether or not Harry's actually cares about the Daily Wire and whether Michael J. Knowles is homophobic or transphobic and whether or not they're just trying to get out of a contract and they don't really believe it.
But either way, I'll tell you this.
They're a trash company and I would never use their product.
ian crossland
Harry's?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
What is it exactly?
tim pool
Razors, I guess.
Yeah, look, man.
There's one thing I really hate about companies, and it's not their ideology.
It's more so, like, spinelessness.
You know what I mean?
Like, if Harry sponsored a Black Lives Matter guy, or whatever, and that was it, and then people complained about it, I'd be like, I don't care, whatever.
Like, I was mentioning, I went to Zoomies, and they had, like, the Brenna Taylor thing, and I'm just like, whatever, man.
This doesn't bother me, whatever.
People put up whatever signs they want.
And sometimes I see Trump riding a tank with like a velociraptor flying and jumping in the background or whatever.
And I'm just like, I get it.
You know, it's the spinelessness.
It's that Harry's shows that they can't back up what, you know, what they, what they set out to do.
Right.
So they'll sponsor this show and then just, sorry, we're losers.
lydia smith
So they had to have known when they signed this deal with the Daily Wire, what exactly the Daily Wire was.
There is no, like, disguising what they, what they're all about.
And Ben Shapiro talks freely about it.
He's like, you know, that we're ideologically biased.
Like what would possess them to be like, Oh my gosh, someone with two followers tweeted at us.
We're going to notice it.
We're going to take action.
And we're going to sever this deal with this company that this is a big company.
Daily Wire has a lot of listeners and followers.
So I don't know what they were thinking with that.
tim pool
No, this is crazy.
I mean, The Daily Wire is the biggest right-wing publication, I believe, on the internet.
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
No joke.
I don't know how much money they bring in.
I've heard people saying crazy numbers like 50 million a year or something.
She's probably not more than, say, Fox News or whatever, but things are changing.
And The Daily Wire gets something like five times as many engagements as the most prominent left-wing publication.
So there was a report from Newswhip in 2018 that talks about left, you know, partisan engagement on Facebook.
The Daily Wire gets like $137 million per month.
And The Root, the biggest left-wing publication, got like $25 million.
Wow.
Yeah, so here's Harry.
He's basically being like, we out.
Burn the bridge.
We don't, yeah.
Or, or maybe they weren't selling razors.
lydia smith
Maybe not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You might be right.
unidentified
I think they got razor burned.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, probably.
tim pool
Remember when Quillette did that thing about toxic masculinity?
unidentified
Yes.
Oh yes.
lydia smith
Gillette, Gillette.
Oh God.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, so bad.
ian crossland
What was that?
That was the Gillette thing?
What was the story?
unidentified
So bad.
lydia smith
So they ran a couple ads where they were talking about how horrible men were.
There was one where they were showing examples of things guys do.
unidentified
Pick up a kid.
lydia smith
Like barbecuing and be kids and play with each other.
unidentified
A Gillette man would never kick his wife down the stairs.
I don't know.
It was overly woke.
lydia smith
Yeah, super low.
tim pool
How dare they?
But no, but also this is a long time ago.
This is a couple of years ago.
Look at this.
It's like Gillette Me Too Razor's ad on toxic masculinity gets praise and abuse.
It's a bunch of guys grilling with their arms crossed.
How dare they?
You know, what?
And then there was one where I guess like some kids were fighting.
lydia smith
Yeah, boys fought.
tim pool
Yeah, like I don't know.
I should have read it.
Like, I don't know.
Sure, fights are bad, but fights happen, I guess.
We tell people not to fight.
You know, when you train people in martial arts, you prepare them for the worst, but you tell them not to get into fights.
I get it.
But the weird thing about it is, like, some of the stuff in that ad was just, like, a guy saw a beautiful woman and was like, oh, and he, like, wanted to walk up to her, and then he gets stopped.
unidentified
Oh, I remember that.
This is crazy because it's really bad because a lot of us women like to get hit on in the streets.
Yeah.
tim pool
Did you ever see that meme where it's like the woman says, like, catcalling is bad?
And then it's a few years later, she's like, men don't catcall me anymore.
And now I'm upset about it.
lydia smith
I hate that it makes me sad or something.
unidentified
Catcalls while you can, gals.
lydia smith
Exactly.
ian crossland
This is actually very deep because it's disturbing.
I went through just to feel like I shouldn't approach a woman and start talking to her because I'm afraid that she'll think I'm abusing her or something.
unidentified
No, you have long hair.
You can get away with probably more.
Yeah, bat those eyes.
You have like a barista look, so you're less threatening.
tim pool
So the guy in that Gillette ad who had just like short hair and he looked kind of tall, that's bad.
That guy's out of luck.
Can't talk to women?
unidentified
Can't, nope.
tim pool
What is a guy supposed to do then?
And look, don't look at me, right?
When you have these commercials literally being like, whoa, don't talk to a woman walking around.
You're a woman, right?
unidentified
For now.
tim pool
Right, so what are men supposed to do when they're told literally don't talk to women you don't know?
unidentified
It's crazy.
tim pool
Tinder.
unidentified
Yeah, it's really frustrating.
Bumble.
I think it's making a lot of guys confused.
No, I'm for talking to women, like everything, you know, passing notes in the hall.
I like it.
I don't know.
I mean, I have a boyfriend, but it's like, it's okay.
It's okay to like express your like for someone or a crush or it's, I just don't like the way it's heading.
Guys shouldn't be afraid to talk to somebody.
tim pool
Right, right.
But it is true that if you're like, if you're walking down the street and a guy says, nice day, he just literally harassed you and should be arrested, right?
unidentified
I'd be like, by day, do you mean like my boobs or my ass?
Yeah.
Exactly.
tim pool
Clearly you meant to say... I know the... Have you seen that five... Was it five hours or was it ten hours of walking through New York as a woman?
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Where like, there's one clip where the guy says, hello.
And they show that as though that's toxic masculinity, like you can't talk to women that way.
ian crossland
Interesting.
Yeah.
So like if you get, if she gets hit on a bunch of times by gruesome dudes, then the one guy who's like, Hey, is, is just, it's by association.
She feels like he's gruesome because she's over it.
tim pool
Look, man, there, there's like some really weird videos.
There was one video on Reddit where a guy wearing a hoodie and a mask, he's wearing a mask because he has COVID, follows this woman and she's holding her camera up filming behind her.
And she turns, he follows her the whole time.
And then she goes into a skate park and then she walks up to some skater dude sitting on a ledge
and she's like, this guy's following me, help. And then she sits down, they're like, sit down with us,
you're cool. And then she points the camera and he's standing like 10 feet in front of all of
these random people. Like there's legit creepo dudes. Oh yeah. I totally get that. Yeah. A lot
unidentified
of them are my fans. Yeah.
tim pool
Shout out.
So they'll follow you and just like stand there in front of you.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Yeah, but then there's like that video about the women walking through New York.
And some of these things were like, a guy was like, nice day.
Howdy.
And that's harassment now.
unidentified
That's regular stuff.
Don't, don't stop saying nice day.
I don't know.
I think, I think it's, it's still kind of trendy for certain types of women to get attention by like being victims instead of, you know, like accomplishing stuff.
tim pool
But aren't you just internalizing your misogyny by opposing the feminist narrative?
unidentified
It's like that gif where the person in all the math is happening.
tim pool
Trying to figure out how you're a bigot.
ian crossland
I got social anxiety as a kid.
I didn't have any sisters or anything, so I was always kind of nervous to talk to girls.
I can only imagine after this movement of like, don't say hello to a girl on the street, like if I saw that when I was 15, Ugh, would have been like 10 times harder.
tim pool
Yeah, but think about what that does.
So the guys that don't care will still ask the women on the street.
And they will get dates because the women will be like, hi.
unidentified
Yeah, and the more polite guys are kind of taking themselves out of the running.
lydia smith
Yep.
unidentified
And then you get Miami.
lydia smith
Yes, that's exactly what that was.
tim pool
I don't know.
Is the twerking the opposite?
Where, like, maybe what's happening in the Miami spring break thing is that because guys are no longer asking women, the women have to twerk to get attention?
unidentified
Yeah, make it so obvious.
Be like, look, I am literally letting out my scent.
I'm ready to mate.
I'm ready to mate.
lydia smith
Yep, let's go.
unidentified
Can somebody please put some seed in there?
ian crossland
So because we're suppressing the sexuality, now it's exploding out in these twerk fests.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's a crazy thing though.
If guys don't ask women, how do women react to this?
It's almost like an inadvertent social experiment, where forever we've had dudes basically court women, you know, pitch woo.
You ever see a video of like, there's this really funny video of these little birds, and they're like little blackbirds, and then the one bird, the male bird, is like jumping back and forth and doing this crazy dance, and the female bird's like looking at him like, hmm.
unidentified
Is he gay?
tim pool
No, it's the opposite.
lydia smith
Quite the opposite.
tim pool
Yeah, she's like, do I want to have this dancing bird's children?
Is his dance that good?
Like, the dude's trying his hardest.
Like, come on, lady, look at me dance.
You've seen peacocks and peahens, right?
unidentified
Peacocking, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, he's like, yo, look at my... Check me out.
So, you know, humans clearly have that where the guy's like, you know, trying to impress the woman.
Now it's, you can't do that anymore.
unidentified
Which sucks, because there's so many women who love being approached still, and still don't like to be the aggressors, don't like to be the ones to make the first move.
I mean, I know we're out there.
I know it's not just me.
lydia smith
We do exist, yes.
tim pool
So I'm wondering now, with that social norm being changed, what's the female response to it?
unidentified
Just a lot of, like, sighing, and then you go by a vibrator.
I don't know.
lydia smith
Pretty much, yeah.
unidentified
That's what I do.
tim pool
Maybe, I mean, like, men are in this position where they're told, quite literally, look, look, I get it, harassment is bad.
You know, these videos of these dudes following women and saying awful things to them?
lydia smith
That's creepy.
tim pool
Disgusting.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But when they include in these videos a dude saying like, howdy, ma'am.
Nice day.
I'm like, that's, you can't say that to anybody.
I say that to dudes.
You know what I mean?
So if guys are told you can't say it to women, I don't think the legit response from women is going to be twerking in the streets.
Like we are seeing mass twerking in Miami.
I think it's something else.
Maybe you were right about the vibrator thing or whatever.
Sure.
But like, I'm just saying, I don't know if we can speculate.
I'm wondering how women respond to this because.
Men are being told socially, if you do this you are bad, you can get cancelled, you can lose your job, all this stuff.
There's no restriction on women.
So do women now start approaching men?
You know?
unidentified
I guess, but that's not going to make these women want to approach men.
If it's in your nature to want to be pursued, to want to be the receiver of the attention, I think you're going to be like, all right, I guess I have to do this.
But you're not going to like it.
You're going to be like, I guess I have to be the one to talk to a guy.
And then you're going to get beaten out over the women that are more competitive or more vocal.
tim pool
But I wonder though, I wonder how much it's true that guys don't like women making the first move and women want guys to make the first move and how these relationships will work with this like really dramatic and rapid change in the social dynamic, you know?
unidentified
I think I'll stop.
I think women will start to develop like colorful feathers.
lydia smith
Probably.
Yeah, I see it.
Well, we've seen this a little bit where where women don't like men who don't earn as much as they do.
And yeah, they're earning less than their counterparts.
unidentified
Studies out that especially millennial women are resentful if they if they make more than they tend to.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
Divorces.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
lydia smith
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Couples where the woman makes more that they're more likely to end a divorce.
And then like all the feminist, you know, blogs basically say it's men's fault.
lydia smith
Of course it is.
tim pool
I wonder if there's something there, too, like guys don't write about their feelings.
unidentified
No, yeah.
They're encouraged not to or to show them.
tim pool
See, that's the patriarchy, I'm told.
unidentified
Well, it sounds like it just sucks for men, right?
tim pool
Well, actually, actually, think about the ramifications of this.
So if men don't express their feelings and that's, assuming that's true, Then men are less likely to write opinion pieces about their feelings.
I don't know if that's true.
Maybe it's true.
If feminists, if women end up being the ones to primarily write about how they feel about things, then you will see in this static gender neutral format, text on paper, you know, white, you know, letters on the screen, a story about what is right and what is wrong.
And I wonder how many people actually read the byline to see who wrote it and consider the gender of the individual.
So how often do we hear about, hey, you know, men should not approach women and it's written by a woman, but guys, when they read it, they don't see that part.
They just see catcalling is wrong and they think catcalling is wrong.
I mean, I guess if women are saying don't approach women, then you've got a problem because women don't want men to approach them.
But maybe it's just the 1% of feminist women who work in these blogs that are speaking for every woman and then guys don't approach women anymore.
unidentified
Cause like the type of woman who wants to be approached probably is not the same type that's going to be a blogger.
lydia smith
Yep.
That's fair.
Yeah.
unidentified
Why?
Why?
tim pool
Like why?
unidentified
I think because if you, if you like to be right, like if you like to be approached, you like to be like, whatever the prize, you're not going to be like, this is how I feel.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
I'm maybe I'm stereotyping.
tim pool
No, I see what you're saying though.
Like the people who throw themselves out there versus the people who want to have, you know, attention thrown at them.
Interesting.
I think we may have come up with an interesting hypothesis and social dynamics of the modern era.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
The women who are writing the feminist blogs are not the kind of women that want to receive attention.
unidentified
They're the kind of women who want to assert Yeah, just like look at who's noisiest on Twitter.
Look who does the most canceling.
It's like the mouthiest people and like we forget like Twitter is not is not everybody.
It's just the most vocal group.
tim pool
It's like 2% of people actively tweet.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And so like 1.1% of them are left.
And then of that, it's like, probably like, you know, 90% of that 1% is far left.
And then there's like moderate liberal and establishment liberal types.
But that's like 1% of the country is tweeting this left crazy stuff that's dominating our culture and changing the way we communicate with each other.
I think you just gotta go live in the middle of nowhere.
That's like the solution.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You can just do whatever.
ian crossland
I wonder if you consider me an active tweeter.
I'll do like one a week sometimes.
unidentified
No, that's inactive.
ian crossland
But inactive tweeters just don't tweet.
unidentified
True.
tim pool
They follow.
ian crossland
In this algorithm of 2% of Twitter users actually tweet, was that what it was?
tim pool
22% of Americans have a Twitter account, but only 2%, I think, actively tweet.
ian crossland
I wonder if I'd be considered in that 2% even though sometimes I won't tweet more than twice a week or once.
tim pool
You might be if they read this test now.
I don't think so for the purpose of this statement because when they did it, it was monthly active users.
So you might have been considered then.
Now they switched to daily, so I don't think you would be considered in an active user base today.
But you probably would qualify for the sake of this to clarify.
ian crossland
So the and I barely tweet.
So you think that if it's a very small percentage of people are considered active tweeters, the ones that are really tweeting a lot are probably like a very small percentage because there's probably a lot of people.
tim pool
There are some people who tweet like 400 times a day.
Blue checky feminists, bloggers just like it's like a certain point.
It's like you have an off switch because like I get it.
I hear your feelings, man.
But it's like there's there's there's there's you know, it's possible to to Have a diary.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Just to give out too much, too much information.
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
So what's, what's, what's the future that's going to be?
What's your, what's your prediction on guys not talking to women?
The whole dynamic is changing.
unidentified
That's already been a trend is like guys being afraid to approach women.
But at the end of the day, it's like, you can't fight the moonlight.
Right?
That's what spring break is all about.
Like at the end of the day, you're still going to have like a certain percentage of guys that are like, Oh, she looks good.
I'm gonna go talk to her.
tim pool
I don't think the people are going to spring break are in this world though.
unidentified
They're probably not tweeting.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't know anything about this.
They're just showing up and going like party, you know, and then they're just like, it's like the weird, what's this weird group of people that we exist in this like very active internet culture debate stuff.
unidentified
It's called nerds.
ian crossland
Yeah.
There are so many nerds that make YouTube videos.
tim pool
I don't know.
It's like white liberal.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Here's what I feel like it's kind of like, you know, you have New York, like you live in New York, right?
You do.
So you don't fall in line.
You don't fall into the same category as these like ultra woke progressives.
But you are in New York.
unidentified
You're around them.
tim pool
Yeah, so it's like, the real issue, I think, is conservatives sitting back, mocking the left, while there is a faction of people that were supposed to be on the left, now politically homeless, going at it with the woke feminists, but the woke feminist types and like critical race theorists have all the cultural power.
It's like a weird dynamic.
unidentified
And there's so many people who don't say anything because they don't want to get fired.
They don't want to lose jobs, lose friends.
We've had a year of basically leftist culture glamorizing.
Stop breaking up with your Trump voting boyfriend.
Stop talking to your dad or your uncle who are conservative.
Anybody who watches Fox is a horrible person.
It's been okay to just cut off everybody in your family, friends.
So I think, right, the politically homeless, conservatives that don't want to get fired.
I think it just sort of takes out huge chunks of people from the conversation.
tim pool
Dude, these people thought that they could just join in the mob, right?
That when the mob started going around with torches, screaming about bigoted, racist, whatever.
Some people were like, I know if I hide in the mob, I'll be safe.
It's not true anymore.
So there's that lady, Alexi McCammond.
You hear about her?
She's a female POC.
And she was going to be the editor-in-chief of Teen Vogue.
unidentified
Oh, yes!
I heard about this.
tim pool
But ten years ago, she tweeted some disparaging things about Asians.
unidentified
When she was 17.
Well, so you're saying she was an adult.
I mean, 17's not an adult.
tim pool
She was a minor.
Adult enough, I suppose.
So, basically, these people thought... Right, right, right.
I'm kidding, by the way.
She was 17.
It's sweet or dumb.
But she lost her job.
And then the company lost a seven-figure deal.
So you had a lot of people who were thinking, I will go along with what the mob says.
And what the mob was saying at the time was, like, mocking Asians was okay.
Now they're saying it's not okay.
And so all these people are now starting to get cancelled themselves.
So, this is the problem with joining the woke mob.
When the rules change, because there are no real rules, they will cancel you.
Because you said racist things.
Your jokes, whatever.
ian crossland
Like you said, talked about white supremacy, and once that becomes taboo and they realize how racist it was, they're gonna cancel all the people that were screaming white supremacy?
tim pool
Well, I'm talking specifically about The Asian stuff, right?
So we were joking on this show that I'm double white because I'm part Asian, and so I have, like, you know, extra privilege, you know, more than whatever.
ian crossland
More than me, Tim, you can say that.
More than me.
tim pool
More than you, Ian.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You white male.
But now we have this big thing about stop Asian hate, and now all of a sudden, it's like... Now it's actually against the woke rules.
So let me show you this thing that's going on with this writer, and then we'll just talk about what's going on with more cancel culture stuff, I guess, because why not?
Ellery Smith.
This is the big thing happening right now as Wokeness comes home to Roost.
You've got this writer, she says, what is it, a witch from hell with references, writer at Robot Chicken, producer and host.
But she tweeted, In 2013, who knows how old she was, she said that she tweeted, and then she said she did not put her cat into it, though.
And so I get the joke.
I think the problem with that joke is that no one accuses Thai people of putting their cats in their food.
That was a joke about stereotyping Chinese people and Chinese restaurants in America.
So it's just awful writing.
If she should be cancelled, it's because she's confusing her tropes and her stereotypes.
Just terrible.
Come on.
unidentified
Right, it would have made more sense, like, oh, making Thai food, I'm not gonna put a seven-year-old boy in it.
I don't know.
I don't either.
People make fun of like, oh, you go to Thailand to get a kid.
lydia smith
I don't know.
Oh, I see.
tim pool
Well, like you're a comedian.
Don't you have to like research what you're talking about before you just try?
unidentified
Like it didn't work just now.
So yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
You see, like, could you imagine a comedian getting up there and just like saying something that was just made no sense and no one understood?
unidentified
And it wouldn't hit and you would learn your lesson and you would adjust and you don't really get that with Twitter even if you don't get a lot of likes or retweets like there's people who just they don't learn the lesson like oh that wasn't funny or that wasn't clever.
tim pool
Here's the problem with this woman specifically.
So I normally don't like to call out the individuals by name.
I try to focus on the ideas, but this is important because she tweeted on just a few days ago, about a week ago.
Remember when someone had their SNL offer revoked after using an anti-Asian slur and so many people thought it was an overreaction?
Hateful language begets violence.
Hateful jokes beget violence.
They minimize and they dehumanize and they allow for the normalization of terror.
lydia smith
Huh.
tim pool
This is the perfect example of this woman.
She's a writer at Robot Chicken, mind you.
Like, Robot Chicken does offensive comedy, okay?
They're fun.
I'm fine.
Robot Chicken's fine.
But it's Seth Green's show.
He's the voice of Chris on Family Guy.
Family Guy's like the epitome of racism.
You know, I shouldn't say racism.
Racist jokes and stereotypical humor and stuff.
It's fine.
I get it.
It's Family Guy.
They're jokes.
It's funny.
What she's trying to do is duck and keep her head down in the mob.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, now they've come for now.
They've pointed out her own tweet.
She could have just shut up and stayed uninvolved, but she decided to join the
mob to protect herself and it's only made her more, more vulnerable.
Now here's the, here's the best part.
She's responded twice and she keeps making it worse.
lydia smith
He just stopped.
tim pool
She says, I posted a tasteless racist tweet when I was 17.
It was disgusting and normalized the exact kind of violence I meant.
Luckily, I have been willing able to grow in the past eight years.
So I look a lot more like the girl on the left than I do on the right.
She blocked anyone from replying to this.
It didn't work.
People started coming after her saying, so she admits she's racist.
She admits that this is who she is.
Well, much like a person in quicksand struggling and frantically trying to get out and then only sinking quicker.
Actually, I don't think that's true about quicksand.
That's probably just like from a movie.
ian crossland
You got a layer on your back if you're in quicksand.
tim pool
Is quicksand even a real thing?
ian crossland
Yeah, I stepped in it once.
tim pool
Really?
ian crossland
Went, like, up to my thigh.
It was crazy.
tim pool
And you couldn't get out?
ian crossland
I tried to pull my leg out and my shoe came off.
But I wasn't very deep.
unidentified
Imagine having people, like, putting their junk in the quicksand.
tim pool
That would be awesome.
That would be awesome.
Then you're laying down.
unidentified
I'll experiment it.
ian crossland
Yeah, you get a stick and put it behind you and then lay back on it if you can.
tim pool
My friends, I would like to describe what we're about to show you as Someone setting a fire in their own home, then getting called out for it, panicking, and setting another fire in their own home, and then burning their home down.
So this writer for Robot Chicken, after getting, you know, attacked for being racist, then saying, yes, yes, you know, she knows she's racist and then getting attacked even more, decided the best thing to do is to triple down on her admitted racism by saying, The things I said... Yeah, go.
The things I said in 2013, and in instances both before and after, are incredibly racist and, yes, violent.
lydia smith
Bingo.
tim pool
They contributed to an ongoing and long-standing culture of danger and hatred.
They are not excusable at any age, and I am deeply sorry.
ian crossland
Wow!
tim pool
Talk about... I accidentally burned my house down and now I'm gonna immolate myself.
That'll help.
unidentified
Yeah, don't throw me a bone.
I deserve it.
Goodbye, world!
tim pool
She tweeted a stupid joke in 2013 that was just a dumb joke.
Eight years later, someone calls her out, so she panics, calls herself a racist.
Then when she gets called it again, she panics and calls herself a violent racist who is unworthy of any excuse.
Okay, dude.
unidentified
She needs to step down from her job.
tim pool
She needs to quit.
It's the only way.
All of these people must quit.
Now, I'm not racist.
I can't be because I'm part Asian.
As for the two of you, I don't know.
ian crossland
I don't think I'm racist.
tim pool
Well, you're white.
Those are the rules.
I didn't make them up.
ian crossland
That's true.
tim pool
And if you deny, if you deny you're racist, that proves you're racist.
That's actually part of the whole thing they're pushing.
ian crossland
I like talking about race as like scientifically and like, what do they call it?
Race-some.
tim pool
Oh, that's racist.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Well, it's racial, but that's different than racist.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
And there's like, racism with a small R, and then racism with a big R, where it's like, you might talk about race, and that's racist with the adjective, but if you're not hating on it, then you're not being like a big R racist.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
No matter what you say, at any point, for any reason, anywhere, Ian, you're white.
You're racist.
Period.
Done.
unidentified
That's the rules.
ian crossland
He's so good at this.
unidentified
Do I get some kind of ginger immunity?
Like, am I... No, I think gingers are like, ultra white.
Hey, whoa!
Oh no!
tim pool
Isn't there like a thing where like they're replacing gingers in movies with POC?
unidentified
What?
I object!
ian crossland
How much more colorful can you be?
tim pool
Exactly!
There was a meme about it where there was like three Disney movies or something where like they had ginger characters and then they replaced them with like non-white characters and people were like they're coming for the gingers or whatever.
lydia smith
Makes me sad.
tim pool
I think there's something about ginger that's like they say that you're like double white or something.
unidentified
Super white.
Yeah like my favorite kind of tuna when I get sushi.
ian crossland
What is it that makes it ginger?
Do you know what the chemical is?
unidentified
I don't know.
Something about not having a soul mixes in.
Yeah, that's it.
lydia smith
It's great.
ian crossland
Aren't people with red hair more responsive to radiation?
unidentified
Oh yeah, you get sunburns.
tim pool
Sun is bad.
unidentified
Oh yeah, you can't tan.
tim pool
Well, you can see in the dark.
unidentified
Right, and you're crazy, so that helps.
lydia smith
Yes, so I'm told.
tim pool
People with blue eyes can see better in the dark than people with brown eyes.
lydia smith
Really?
unidentified
I can see really good in the dark.
ian crossland
Do you have blue eyes?
unidentified
Yeah, and I was in Dallas when all the blackouts happened because I was performing at a club out there, and I just got really used to walking around the hotel in the dark.
I was like, this is great, I know where I'm going.
lydia smith
That's crazy.
tim pool
So what can we do to encourage all of these woke people to quit their jobs?
Just quit.
Just get out.
unidentified
You know, they're just going to do it to themselves.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know, they can they can quit faster.
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
They could.
unidentified
Yeah, they could hire a person of color to replace them.
That would be, I think, the noble thing to do.
tim pool
That's why they never do that, though.
lydia smith
They really don't.
ian crossland
Yeah.
lydia smith
They talk a big game.
But then when it comes time to, like, actually replace them with someone who would represent what they claimed to be for.
Radio silence?
Just crickets?
Can I say?
ian crossland
I'm gonna take the alternate route and say I don't want them to quit because it's like, do you want to heal the organ or cut the organ out?
And often cutting the organ out is a drastic thing.
unidentified
What if the organ is woke though?
lydia smith
I mean, yeah.
ian crossland
Massage the organ.
tim pool
I have a woke liver.
unidentified
It's like gangrenous.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
I have a woke liver.
Every time you drink it goes ugh.
tim pool
I don't know, I think drinking's okay.
Unless you're drinking the wrong kind of drink.
Like, if you're white and you drink tequila, that's like, your liver gets mad.
Like, whoa, that's cultural appropriation.
unidentified
Yeah, if you have a woke stomach and you eat, like, veal, it's like, ugh.
tim pool
No, I don't know.
We talked about this with Harry's.
Do the woke really care about animal rights?
I don't think so.
unidentified
God, who knows what they... They just care about, like, whatever's in the moment.
Whatever serves them in the moment.
tim pool
I don't think they care about anything.
I mean, like, this woman who is accusing herself of being a violent racist is probably one of the funniest, like, self-owns I have ever seen.
It's like, dude, lady, just shut up.
unidentified
Oh my God, calm down.
tim pool
Like, you didn't do anything.
Nobody cares.
You got people tweeting at you.
It's like 30 people.
So what?
And she just keeps making it worse.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's always the people that say, Oh, words are violence.
It's like, you've never been in a fight, have you?
Words are words.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
That's exactly why they think it.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Think about it.
Like, have you ever been in a physical fight?
unidentified
Yes.
All right.
tim pool
So you understand what violence is.
Yeah.
If you've never been in a fight, the worst pain you've ever felt is when someone called you like a doo-doo head.
So here's this, this, this, this Ellery woman, you know, and she's probably growing up in some like affluent, you know, New York suburb or whatever.
Gets a job.
Well, I don't know, probably California writing for a chicken.
And so now the worst thing she's ever experienced was when, you know, a girl at her high school called her fugly.
And then all of a sudden she was like, and like hyperventilating, like this pain, what am I feeling?
I was called the name.
And then she's like, wow, is that how other people feel when they're insulted?
Some people.
Yeah.
So that's why she's like, it's violence to say that.
Meanwhile, if you've ever been punched in the face, you're like, I don't care what you call me.
Just don't punch me in the face.
ian crossland
You know what's really bothering me is her twisted humor is basically what got her the job with Robot Chicken, no doubt.
Like, it's run by the dude from Family Guy, who's one of the most racist comedy shows on the TV.
tim pool
I don't think... I would say stereotypical humor.
ian crossland
Yeah, like racial humor.
tim pool
Their intent isn't to be, like... They're not intending to be racist.
ian crossland
It's not to harm, yeah.
It's to make fun of everybody.
And they're like, all the races.
tim pool
No, not anymore.
They announced they wouldn't make fun of gay people anymore.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
So, like, they've clearly decided some things are off-limits, which is really interesting.
Because then, what about making fun of Jewish people is okay to the writers of Family Guy?
You know what I mean?
Like, when they were saying, we'll make fun of everybody, I'm like, I get it.
We make fun of everybody.
Dave Chappelle does it, Joe Rogan, Ricky Gervais.
We poke fun at everybody because, you know, we want to show we're all on equal footing, we're all worthy of criticism.
When Family Guy says, nah, nah, nah, not some groups.
We're like, so you think it's okay to mock Some groups of people, not others.
Now you're getting into creepy territory, because now I'm kind of like, what do you... It makes it worse.
How do you actually feel?
Because look, you know, I brought this up in a segment I did earlier today.
There's this voice actress named Tara Strong.
I think that's her name.
And she does like Harley Quinn from Batman.
She's like Timmy Turner.
She's also done voices for Family Guy, and she did this one really racist Asian stereotype making fun of Asian women.
And I'm like, this is a woman who on Twitter screams all day and night about, like, Trump being bad and bigotry and all this stuff.
Meanwhile, she's done a ton of really offensive racist stuff.
Like, she was also on Drawn Together.
Super racist stuff.
And I'm like, yo, lady, like, I don't care if you voice these characters, you want to make jokes.
But then how are you going to go on Twitter and act like that's wrong when you literally do it?
unidentified
Well, that was her job, you know.
tim pool
It was okay.
No, but here's the point.
It was okay back then.
Making fun of these people was okay back then.
Well, that's all changing now.
All right, so let's cancel Family Guy.
Let's cancel, you know, Drawn Together was already canceled, but we'll get that off.
We'll get it all off the air.
Robot Chicken, you're gone.
What else is getting purged?
South Park.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
Oh, man, South Park's gotta go.
unidentified
Yeah, definitely.
ian crossland
The Simpsons?
tim pool
No, but think about it, right?
So I'm joking when I say this.
But they're probably hoping that's the result.
Like the woke want to get rid of all this stuff.
They want to just like destroy culture and have like this, you know, revolution.
So they're probably super excited the idea of Family Guy getting canceled because they done a bunch of racist jokes.
ian crossland
I get them.
tim pool
It's stereotypical jokes.
ian crossland
Like making people the butt of your joke.
It's not the right.
It's not my favorite kind of humor.
Like it's easy to tear someone down and get a laugh by everyone else.
But.
But it's more challenging to make everyone laugh with just some idiosyncrasy you notice about reality.
That's my favorite kind of humor.
So I see why they don't want it anymore, but canceling it outright seems so ridiculous.
unidentified
It's so misplaced, because in a comedy club, you could totally roast a guy.
If you're a comic, you can roast anybody at the show, and it would crush, and it would be great.
And then you leave, oh what a great show.
Call the guy gay in the front row with a pink shirt.
Everybody would laugh.
It's like there's just easy things and it's kind of just like these feelings are misplaced now because it's all in our pocket and people who aren't seeking out comedy, who aren't funny, who have no sense of humor, it's like well now I'm looking at it and I can give my opinion right away and I feel like I have the power to destroy this thing or this person.
It's almost like people who, you know, don't have a great sense of humor are being exposed to comedy and they just like don't know what to do with it.
tim pool
They're weirdo robot people.
I don't know if it was Ryan Long who told us this, but it might have been, but you can tell me what your thoughts are, having done comedy.
I think it was Ryan, but I'm not sure, so I don't want to put words in his mouth, but we were being told that when you're doing comedy and you're ribbing on, like, some group of people, not, like, based on race, but, like, if you're talking about motorcycle riders, there will be, like, you know, some people in the corner be like, oh, like, make fun of us, make fun of us!
unidentified
Yeah, people like it!
You're kidding yourself.
You're lying to yourself.
If you haven't laughed at a racial joke, even the most woke people, like right now, are in a room somewhere making fun of white people.
White people do this.
It's like we've all laughed at another group and we wouldn't laugh if it wasn't kind of true.
tim pool
Well, humans—I was reading about stereotypes in comedy, and they were saying that humans recognize patterns, but patterns aren't always correct.
And one of the things that kind of makes it funny is recognizing what seems to be a pattern that's not necessarily correct.
Right?
So we have this card game called Write or Racist.
All right, so Cassandra got it for me for my birthday, and, uh, it's an okay game.
I'm not gonna say it's the best game in the world.
I think it's fun, and, uh, shout out to the, you know, the people who made the game and hit me up because we showed it before.
But it's good in that it asks you a question or makes a statement, and they have to determine if that statement is true or if it is a stereotype.
And what makes the game funny is when sometimes the stereotypes are true, and so it asks you a question, and it'll be like, I won't give an actual question from the game, because YouTube will ban me.
But some of them are intense.
Some of them are intense.
ian crossland
I'll be like, dude, that is so racist.
He'll be like, it's true.
unidentified
What?!
Whoa!
tim pool
But here's the point of the game.
It's like, it'll say something about women, and then who's going to be brave enough to assert that it's true?
Like, because then when it's not true, it's like, ah, you're racist or whatever.
Or I guess stereotypical because women, you're not raced against women.
But that's what's funny about it is it'll say like, a study found that X percent of people from India do this one thing.
And then everyone's kind of like, I feel like that's true, but is that racist?
ian crossland
I know you feel so racist when you say true.
tim pool
And then, but what happens is people are like, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to sound racist.
So I'm going to say it's not true.
And then you flip it over and it's like, it is true.
And you're like, ah, geez.
unidentified
Like, I have been in a lot of smelly cabs.
Oh god, what am I gonna say?
tim pool
Yeah, but there is a question about cab drivers in New York and their ethnicity, their national origin, and then it asks you if it's true.
I do think there are some issues with question formatting because I think, you know, it could have been done better, but it's a really good idea for a game that is really funny when people are forced So like you laid on a card and the card says it's right so everyone gets to see you saying that stereotype is true But that's the point I'm making is what's funny about that game is what what's funny about the jokes on family guy, right?
So there was a joke they made where like... I'm allowed to say this joke, by the way, because I'm part Asian, okay?
You guys can't say these jokes.
You're not allowed.
That's how it works, right?
And it's Alex Borstein, who is the voice of Lois, and they said something like, that's worse than an Asian woman driving or something or trying to perform a lane change.
I don't know what it is.
But she's driving and she's like, how much turn signal do I need to change eight lanes?
Zero?
Okay, I'll turn now, good luck everybody else.
And then she just drives across the highway and everyone crashes and all the cars are exploding.
Okay, clearly that's not a real thing.
But they're making a stereotypical joke about Asian women being bad drivers.
Which I don't know if there's any data to back that up.
But it's a joke.
That's it.
I've never looked at these jokes.
Like when I watched, I used to be, I would say, well, I'll put it this way.
I used to be a fan of a lot more celebrities until I saw them tweet.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But when I saw the joke from Family Guy, where they make fun of Asian women, they basically make fun of Asian women for having small tits.
And it's Tara Strong who's doing it.
And she's like, you know, very hardcore TDS.
I'd never cared.
unidentified
Tet derangement syndrome?
tim pool
Sure.
Well, no, but like, but like, you know, when they're on Twitter and they're like, I'm so woke and we're all the best, most noble people.
And I'm like, dude, the conservatives aren't the ones in Hollywood making these racist jokes all day.
It's you guys.
That's the problem is a double standard of hypocrisy.
I never had a problem with jokes about Asian people, I guess.
And then when I say that the woke people are like, well, it's cause you're white.
And I'm like, well, I never problem with jokes about white people either.
It's the, it's the hypocrisy.
You're like, racist jokes are wrong, but white people, I'm like, no, no, you don't get to do that.
unidentified
The only wrong joke is the joke that no one laughs at.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
Yeah, and maybe that's it.
Maybe they're just not funny people.
unidentified
Yes, for sure.
For six years, I hosted a show at the Stonewall Inn, and it was a great show.
But I was noticing, like, oh, I'm not getting a ton of, I don't know, fans coming to my other shows.
Or I'm not getting a lot of followers.
And then as I grew older, my sense of humor developed.
tim pool
You realized it was because you were a woman, and men are bad people.
unidentified
Yeah.
And I was like, what is this?
Am I not?
I realized I wasn't a bisexual.
I just was fun at parties.
And then I eventually got older.
My sense of humor changed.
I realized I was libertarian.
And then I got a show on Compound Media.
And I'm like, oh, wow.
These people love comedy.
They're showing up to shows.
They're following me.
They buy our merch.
It's like, oh, these people just like comedy.
tim pool
I was reading this article about a woman who became a comic and then quit because she was like, men didn't laugh at my jokes because they're bigots.
I'm like, no, no, like legit.
And I'm like, yeah, you're just not funny, dude.
You know, that's the weird thing there.
Did you ever see, did you ever see that thing?
There was a woman who dressed up like a man.
Do you ever see that?
She, she was doing standup and she thought the reason guys wouldn't let people, she thought the reason people didn't laugh at her jokes because she was a woman.
So she dressed up like a guy and then did the set and nobody laughed.
And then her boyfriend was like, she left crying.
And she's like, I don't want to do this anymore.
And he's like, I'm sorry, babe.
And it's like, maybe you're just not funny.
unidentified
Was that Bonnie McFarlane and Rich Voss?
Yeah, yeah, I know those guys.
tim pool
Was that real?
Was that legit?
unidentified
I think it was.
It might have been part of a documentary.
I think it's like, women aren't funny or women aren't funny.
It wasn't a good example.
It's at least like, yeah, try that with a more like a manlier set, but yeah.
Who was it?
tim pool
Was it Richard Dawkins said women aren't funny?
unidentified
A lot of people say it.
tim pool
It may have been Dawkins and I could be wrong, but he was saying like, women aren't funny because they don't need to be funny.
It's true.
unidentified
I've been wasting all this time.
lydia smith
What are you doing?
tim pool
What he was saying is that like, from a biological standpoint, men are trying to attract women by asserting dominance, by entertaining, and women don't have to do that.
So they didn't need to be funny.
unidentified
True.
It's like they're like peacocking.
lydia smith
Yeah.
It's true.
ian crossland
I noticed with, um, physical comedy, it, it helps if you have short hair or like no moment, nothing like distracting from the face when you move.
Cause if you turn your head real fast and this is like flopping, it distracts everybody.
But if it's just one flashy movement, then you can like snap.
Get people like Jim Carrey was so good.
Cause his hair was always like static.
Like is one.
So maybe that's women with long hair is distracting the audience.
unidentified
There's a lot that you have to figure out when you're like a girl doing comedy.
Because I had a point where I was like, I was showing more cleavage on stage.
I was wearing tighter dresses.
I would get advice from people being like, you know, you should really wear like a jacket and pants and like, you know, like.
Legends of comedy like this one woman Gladys like a lot of people look up to her for comedy advice and she's like you need to wear like a jacket with shoulders and pants and I was like are you talking about Ellen in the 90s that's how I have to dress?
I just couldn't do it because I like I just didn't want to I wanted to be myself on stage but I would realize like you look at the crowd you're like you see people getting distracted you see somebody like looking at your tits like you see a woman being like oh is is my guy like laughing What do you guys think about stereotypes going forward?
I think we should keep them.
These are distractions that I can limit without like tossing away who I am.
lydia smith
Yeah, person like that.
ian crossland
What do you guys think about stereotypes going forward?
You think it's going to last?
unidentified
You think? Yeah.
tim pool
You know, you know, I think about women in comedy is that I wonder if women are
trying too much to be like men.
And so they model their comedy after offer.
They model their comedy off of a guy's style instead of finding their own style.
I was thinking this because I saw Nikki Glaser.
That's her name, right?
She's hilarious.
I love her.
When she roasted, I think she roasted Alec Baldwin.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh man, that was some of the best comedy ever seen.
She's good.
But the way her demeanor was, was very feminine, was very stereotypically, like, woman.
And it was an interesting way, she was like, She almost like the way she talked was not like a guy.
It was like a woman.
And I'm like, man, I started thinking about it.
I'm like, maybe that's one of one factor, perhaps that there'll be a lot of women who try to give, they try to deliver their humor in the same way they saw a guy do it.
Not realizing that socially, it doesn't necessarily make sense the same way when a guy would say it.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Like, I'll see a lot of women comics, and they'll either do that thing you're mentioning, Tim, like, well, they'll try to deliver or do jokes, like, edgy jokes, like they think a guy would.
Oh, because these guys get successful this way, and I want to be successful, so let me follow that model.
And then you have other, like, comics, girl comics, starting out, and you're like, Well, I have to be like Amy Schumer.
I have to be like Whitney Cummings.
I have to be super left.
And I was that way when I started just because that all my friends were liberals.
Like I was a liberal coming out of college.
So I just was like, all right, this is what I have to do.
Like lean into the feminism stuff.
Talk about how much men suck.
And so I think you feel pressure starting out to either go that way.
And the ones that break ahead of the pack and become successful are the ones that like are true to their selves and are true to their voices.
An audience can tell when you're like not comfortable in your own skin.
tim pool
The thing about Amy Schumer is that she makes disgusting jokes that are, like, not really jokes.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
And she's not even doing stand-up anymore.
I mean, she's just selling mayo.
Really?
She was in a mayo commercial on the Super Bowl.
tim pool
Hey, well, good for her.
She made money, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
She's doing what she does.
Her kind of humor was basically just, like, talking about her junk.
unidentified
Right.
Right.
Like to be graphic for the sake of being graphic, you know?
Yeah.
Again, like if it's funny, people will laugh.
But right.
That maybe was like, OK, maybe she's forcing.
lydia smith
But I think I think that's another case of women trying to take men's comedy and be like, I'm going to do it this way because this works for guys.
I want to be dirty and gross and raunchy and talk about stuff that no one wants to hear about.
My goodness.
And then it'll work for me.
tim pool
When Nikki Glaser was roasting Alec Baldwin, she was gross.
What did she say?
We'll keep this one family friendly, but she said that Alec Baldwin's reproductive fluid must be like oatmeal at this point.
lydia smith
That's different.
ian crossland
She talked about his bald twins.
unidentified
Reproductive fluid?
You mean alcohol?
lydia smith
Reproductive fluid.
tim pool
Just for the people who have families out there who, you know, for whatever reason have their kids listening.
Hey, we do all right with the family-friendly stuff.
lydia smith
We try.
tim pool
But it was like, it was her delivery.
It was her attitude.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
It was the way she was explaining it.
It was like, I believed she was genuine, like you were saying.
unidentified
Yeah, like a sassy broad instead of like trying to be like one of the guys.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, that's fair.
lydia smith
That's a good point.
tim pool
That reminds me of another Family Guy joke where they're, he's like, you know, they're like, that's almost as bad, or whatever the callback thing is, as like that one woman hanging out with the guys, trying to prove that she's a sports fan.
And it's like guys just sitting there with their eyes half closed, like drinking beer, and there's the woman going like, I like sports!
Sports are awesome!
Aren't sports great?
lydia smith
Football!
tim pool
Yeah, you guys like sports!
It's like, OK, we get it.
You like sports.
It's just not how people act, you know?
unidentified
Well, because like women, you have the tendency to like people please and like you pick up what other people like.
So you're like, oh, I want to like what they like so that they like me.
And then you grow up and you realize like, oh, just just do you and have your tits out and guys will like you.
lydia smith
It'll be great.
Yeah, it'll be fine.
tim pool
And then you can just stand there and not tell jokes.
And then guys will eventually start giving you money.
unidentified
You know what?
tim pool
Maybe, maybe actually.
There could be a place specifically for women who have mastered this, you know, speechless form of entertainment where they're showing their bodies.
We could put like, you know, to make it easier for them to move around, we could put a pole on the stage.
unidentified
Some sort of club.
So everyone can see them equally, you know, so that your view of the woman is not ruined.
tim pool
And the guys just give the women the money directly, like throwing the money on the stage.
unidentified
Yes, straight to them.
No middleman.
lydia smith
Yeah, taxes.
I love it.
unidentified
Put it like on an item of their clothing.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
No, I think that is kind of sad for like, I shouldn't say sad, but that is a factor for women in entertainment.
Because I remember there's this YouTube channel where this woman plays guitar.
She plays acoustic guitar and she sings.
Millions of views.
And so this was years ago.
I was looking at, you know, got recommended this video and I'm like, Oh, it's really great.
You know, rendition of like, I don't know, Eleanor Rigby or something.
And then I noticed like early videos from her had no views at all.
Just like very little, a couple of hundred.
And then all of a sudden one day, boom, hundreds of thousands, 500,000, then million, million, million.
She plays acoustic guitar.
And one thing changed from that video with no views to the video with hundreds of thousands.
And you know what it was?
unidentified
Implants.
tim pool
Cleavage.
unidentified
Yeah, you went a little overboard on that one.
tim pool
Not that far.
No, she just started wearing low-cut tops, and then her boobs were on top of the guitar when she played, right front and center.
And all of a sudden it was like, boom, views skyrocketed.
unidentified
Why do you think I'm wearing this top, Tim?
I'm trying to get your views up.
tim pool
Trying to get my views up.
unidentified
It's working!
Tune in!
lydia smith
Yes!
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
How do you feel about that?
Because I know it's probably a bunch of feminists who are screaming.
unidentified
Yes!
Tits sell everything.
lydia smith
It's true.
unidentified
100%.
People are motivated by tits.
You know, people work harder because of tits.
lydia smith
It's magical.
unidentified
People build things because of tits.
lydia smith
That's right.
Civilization.
ian crossland
Even as a guy, I would notice that when I made videos shirtless, they'd get way more views.
tim pool
I love this one.
It was like OkCupid when they used to put out the data sets.
They don't anymore because they'll get canceled if they do.
But it was like you have all these women.
This is also an interesting factor in the social aspect of how all this stuff works.
We're talking about how women respond in terms of social norms and stuff.
All of these women on OkCupid were putting things in their profile like, if you're a guy, and you're not wearing a shirt in your picture, don't bother messaging me!
And then OkCupid put out this data and they're like, actually, they say that, but they're substantially more likely to respond to a guy not wearing a shirt.
They were like, the women who put in their profiles, don't bother messaging if you're not wearing a shirt, are more likely to respond to a guy who has a photo with no shirt on.
unidentified
Like, I'm not gonna ask for it outright, but like, if you can sell it, I'll be on your profile.
tim pool
That's so crazy though.
So why would these women put that on their profile if they didn't mean it?
unidentified
Because they're trying to sound more cerebral.
They're trying to sound like they don't care about looks and your body.
You're like, oh I just want a nice guy.
No we effing don't.
tim pool
I wonder though.
So, uh, I, I heard once that women don't wear makeup and dress up for guys.
They do it for other women.
unidentified
I've heard that too, but like, I don't dress up, uh, for sleepovers.
Like I don't dress up and like have my boobs.
I had to go like shopping with a girlfriend.
Like if I was going to hang out with Lydia all day, I wouldn't like be wearing a pushup bra.
Yeah.
tim pool
But like, what about single women?
They probably would.
So it's probably trying to try to attract guys, I guess.
unidentified
Yeah, I think when you're single you always try to, cause like I always remember my mom would tell me when I was single, she'd be like, you never know, you know, like you could just dress up if you're going to the deli.
Like, who knows, you might get a half a pound of turkey and a salami if you're good, you know.
tim pool
Well, that's actually I think a pickup artist thing though.
They say don't pick up women in bars.
You pick up women at the deli.
for sure because then you find like a regular woman who's just doing normal things whereas like the bar is going to be people looking for a good time not necessarily looking for a legitimate relationship true and the laundromat that's something they say to go to the laundromat yeah like a church or something yeah church for sure yeah if you want to get an arranged marriage for your daughter dog parks dog parks No, but I, you know, not to disparage church people if I got mad, but, uh, yeah, yeah, you're not going to find, uh, you're going to find regular people doing regular stuff going on about regular things.
The deli thing was good advice.
unidentified
Yeah.
Comedy shows good too.
Like if you like to laugh and you like girls who like to laugh.
Yeah.
tim pool
How would you, how would you say like the wokeness has affected the comedy scene?
unidentified
It's been really interesting.
Like, it's always kind of been an irritant over the last few years, but the last year and the lockdowns has really, it's been really fascinating because the woke, like, liberally comics, they kind of, they'll perform mostly, it would be New York, it would be LA, and everything in between is a flyover state that doesn't deserve our time, our energy, our effort.
Like, they're all just dumb Americans, right?
tim pool
So that's where you let the real racist humor just totally go in.
unidentified
Right.
So like, woke comics just perform in New York and L.A.
usually, because everything else is not worth their time.
And so what have we seen happen?
Like, the woke cities are staying closed the longest.
And all the while, the woke comics have not developed their chops performing in the rest of the country.
So guess what?
Like, the non-woke comics have been crushing it over the last year.
Like, me and all my buddies at Compound Media, like, we talk about this all the time.
Like, we're having a great year.
Like, we're getting more work because we're performing all over the country and we haven't ruled out, you know, Any particular state or city and we're developing our fan bases and now it used to be way back when like the woe comics kind of had an edge because they would be more likely to booked for like Colbert or Fallon or they'd get a Comedy Central special and now it seems like your following has replaced in a sense like your credits so if you have a big enough following through like your podcast or whatever and you can fill a room or a venue that club is going to be like yeah we want we want you instead of
You have a Letterman credit or you have a Fallon credit from years ago, but you have no Twitter engagement.
You have no following.
People don't really care about you in a sense.
tim pool
Who are some of the people at Compound Media?
unidentified
Oh that, I mean Aaron Berg is really great.
Gino Bisconti is really great.
Pat Dixon's a comedian that performs there too.
Don Jameson, Jim Florentine was just on.
We had comedians at the Compound out of New Jersey at TIFF's Ale House this past Friday.
It was so great.
It's just, and Compound Media is a subscriber base so it's kind of nice.
There's no like fear of cancellation because everybody who subscribes like loves comedy.
I love it.
Nobody's out to do like a gotcha.
ian crossland
What is Compound Media?
Is it like a multi-channel network kind of for a group of comedians?
unidentified
It's Anthony Comey's network.
So if you heard of like Opie and Anthony from Sirius, so it's Anthony Comey's network.
He started it like maybe five or six years ago.
Just a place to have his own show and then he brought on he was co-hosting with Dave Landau for a while and Dave just left to do Crowder's show.
But I mean Anthony is not a stand-up comic but he is funnier than so many comics I know.
tim pool
You got me really optimistic right now.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Let's think about some of these factors, right?
lydia smith
Love it.
tim pool
The anti-woke comics are doing great.
I mean, Ryan Long, for instance, Tim Dillon, Andrew Schultz, they're just skyrocketing.
You've got these other writers, you know, like this Ellery woman, canceling themselves, publicly declaring that they themselves are violent racists.
Wow, that's going to help you get work in the future.
Congratulations.
Then you have the hubs of wokeism shut down where they can't even work anyway.
So it sounds like...
The good guys are winning.
The people who enjoy humor and understand context and are not part of the cult are succeeding, gaining followers, making money.
And the wokeness is eating itself and burning to the ground.
unidentified
For sure.
And the audiences that have come out to see me in like the last year, it's like they're appreciative.
They want to be entertained.
They want to laugh.
It's like they almost it's like they don't care.
It's like it's almost like the racial jokes are doing even better and like It's freeing.
It's so freeing.
Like, yeah, we were in New Jersey on Friday and I just was like, just saying a lot of wrong stuff.
It's getting huge laughs.
Just telling people they look like Proud Boys, like things that you don't think will hit.
We're crushing.
lydia smith
That's great.
ian crossland
Um, Brogan mentioned this quite a bit, that, like, comedians are the last bastion of sanity in, like, any kind of culture war.
And even, like, historically, even if the world were to fall apart and then reformulate as, like, a giant monarchy, the monarch still has a jester that will make fun of him and say the most racist, you know, the most offensive stuff directly to the king, because he needs humor.
Human.
Like, humor is part of why we're saying... It's a pressure release valve.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
We all get anxious.
We're getting, like, scared.
We're getting angry.
And then someone cracks a joke, and it, like, releases the pressure valve.
And we all kind of just chill a little bit.
Laughter.
It feels good.
You know?
It pulls you back from that despair.
unidentified
And not just jokes, but just saying true statements.
Like, saying the things that everybody is thinking.
Because it's like, look at our news.
It's been lying to us for how long now?
Our influencers lie to us.
Our celebrities lie to us.
So when you get somebody with a little bit of truth, you're like, oh, I'm not crazy.
Right.
I'm not alone.
tim pool
It's kind of like George Carlin.
You know, there came a point in his career where he literally was not making jokes.
And that was some of the best stuff he ever did, where it's just like he gets on stage and he rants about how messed up everything is and everyone's laughing.
And I'm like.
It's kind of sad that we're all laughing at how awful everything is.
But what was happening was George Collins saying something that we all knew to be true, but many were scared to say.
And all of a sudden now, they feel relief.
Like, I can... What I know to be true is true.
ian crossland
I think that's why comedians make excellent podcast hosts, because when you're performing on stage, you're performing.
But when you're on the podcast, you're just able to speak the truth.
And it's like, that's already your job anyway.
It just doesn't have to be.
You don't have to perform it.
tim pool
And if you say something overtly racist and bigoted, you can just be like, I'm just a comedian.
It's not real.
I didn't really mean those things about those people.
ian crossland
You know, as long as it's not in text, once it goes into text, like if Dave Chappelle had written all that stuff on Twitter, all those jokes, he'd be canceled right now.
tim pool
The things Dave Chappelle said in that standup special on Netflix were spicy.
Yeah.
Like he, he literally squinted his eyes and did the buck teeth thing.
And I was like, I don't, I don't know what, to what degree I'm allowed to be offended or like allowed to like defend, I guess.
Cause you know, how, how are the rules work?
I thought it was hilarious.
I thought it was absolutely hilarious.
ian crossland
That man's amazing.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm like, do it.
More power to Dave Chappelle.
He's made fun of everybody.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
Everybody's always been made fun of.
unidentified
When you remove context, you kind of make yourself vulnerable for cancellation.
That's what Twitter is.
You remove context, in a sense.
tim pool
Yeah, tweets are too short.
But I will tell you what I'm really loving.
I have never laughed more than with my recent, you know, just escapades on Twitter, anti-tweeting.
ian crossland
You're a liberal journalist now.
tim pool
I'm a liberal journalist now.
I've done it.
lydia smith
He's arrived.
tim pool
So when Joe Biden tripped, so basically, if you're not familiar, I said I hated Twitter.
I don't want to use Twitter.
It's stupid.
Journalists are really dumb.
And then I realized not tweeting won't solve the problem.
lydia smith
It's not enough to not tweet.
tim pool
It's not enough to not tweet.
We must actively anti-tweet.
unidentified
You mean go on Parler?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
Hear me out.
tim pool
A tweet from me would be something like, when Joe Biden tripped and fell, I would say something like, Joe Biden, here's my honest opinion, he tried running up the stairs.
He's nearly 80 years old.
He said when Donald Trump was walking down that ramp, slowly, he was like, if it were me, I'd run up the ramp.
So he's trying to be like, I'm still with it, I got the, oh, and then he falls over and nearly hurts himself.
So an anti-tweet is when I, instead, I said, remember when Trump struggled to walk down a ramp?
Joe Biden was clearly just checking his shoe.
Conservabros would be wise to pay attention.
So it's, anti-tweeting is not necessarily a sarcastic snarky tweet, kind of like that was.
To take it one step further, anti-tweeting would be something like, Joe Biden is doing a tremendous job, he's an amazing president, and I respect him highly.
It is not visibly sarcasm.
It's just a positive statement.
I don't believe.
I'm doing it because journalists don't do research.
So I tweeted impeach the Queen.
Impeach Queen Elizabeth.
And I got an article written up saying journalists calls for the impeachment of Queen Elizabeth.
And I'm like, sure.
And then PJ Media, which is like a conservative outlet, when I anti-tweeted the thing about Joe Biden, you know, checking his shoe, they actually quoted it and said, liberal journalist Tim Poole.
I'm like, there it is!
unidentified
There it is.
Transitioned.
tim pool
That's right.
Well, I've always been liberal, you know what I mean?
And they've always called me liberal, but they took the tweet seriously.
It's like, dude.
ian crossland
Dude, I think you're, like, extremely liberal.
It's so crazy to me that people think you're, like, a conservative.
tim pool
Conservatives don't.
ian crossland
It's so crazy.
I mean, I think you're one of the most, like, liberal dudes I know.
Like, just willing to, like, put yourself out there and get crazy.
tim pool
The culture war issues today are not liberal versus conservative.
And so that's where everyone's getting confused.
It's like, someone mentioned this before in the Super Chats, it's constructivist versus essentialist.
It's like a core component of the culture war.
Do you think there are immutable scientific facts, objective facts, or do you think reality is just manufactured by thought?
And so if you're someone who believes in the science, you're effectively an essentialist in many ways.
They're trying to confuse this by claiming science says things it doesn't say.
Like, there was this big thing that happened with Jesse Singleton, he's a journalist, and he's being accused of being an anti-trans bigot by GLAAD, which is the LGBTQ+, you know, advocacy group.
And they said something like, in their article, that there are more than three biological sex- I'm sorry, there are three or more, more than two biological sexes.
And I'm like, science literally does not say that.
Science points out that there are two, and then there are... This is going to get me in trouble with these organizations, but syndromes and different combinations of chromosomes.
But the reference to biological sex is specifically to the... I'm not a scientist.
What are the things called?
Gametes?
unidentified
Genitals.
tim pool
Well, sperm and egg, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Are the two core sex, um, cells.
lydia smith
Sex cells, yeah.
tim pool
For everything.
unidentified
Sex cells, indeed, yes.
tim pool
There's not another one.
But so anyway, he gets, he gets, you know, roasted for that.
Science doesn't say that.
They just say it does.
And so it's the weirdest thing.
They're constructivists.
They don't believe in objective reality, so they can say things that make no sense.
They can claim to be in the favor, in favor of science.
So yeah, I think, I mean, what, you said you're a libertarian?
unidentified
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
I've taken a lot of tests that say I am.
But I also think classical liberal as well.
I feel like I go kind of in there too.
tim pool
Well, classical liberal and libertarian are basically the same thing.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So when people say they're libertarian in the traditional American context, they're basically saying classical liberalism, which is like center-right politically.
And then, I've always maintained I'm social liberal, center-left politically.
Seriously, you need read only like one paragraph about social liberals, and you're like, ah yes, I understand what that is.
It's the traditional liberal position in the United States, not the classical, where it's like, hey, civil rights are good things, and you know, we need the Civil Rights Act, and there are some social programs that actually work to help people.
That's social liberal.
Classical liberal is more capitalistic.
Social liberal is more socialistic.
But they're basically centrist, you know, moderate positions.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
ian crossland
Did you ever see What the Bleep?
Do We Know?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Dude, you gotta watch it.
unidentified
It's crazy.
tim pool
Nonsense.
ian crossland
It messed me up.
It made me think that, of like, what is it called?
Objectivism?
Not essentialism.
Constructivism.
It made me think of constructivism.
Like, oh, if you believe it, it becomes reality.
That's different.
And it's like this quantum physics kind of pseudoscience.
unidentified
That's like manifesting though, right?
tim pool
Yes, yes.
unidentified
Which is real.
It's the secret.
ian crossland
And there's something to it, like placebo effect has an effect and they don't really know why.
tim pool
I will say this, I will say this.
ian crossland
What the bleep do we know is a bunch of misinterpreted... Yeah, it was like a cult around that woman that was like channeling some alien or something.
tim pool
They think that you can manifest, like the observer changes physical reality.
So there is the secret, which is like manifesting where you focus on things.
There's a very, really simple explanation for all of that stuff.
And it's that if you wake up every day, this is what they say.
If you wake up every day and you focus on what you want, it will manifest.
It's like, yeah, if you wake up every day and say, I want this thing, you'll be actively pursuing and viewing that path.
So it's like, if you're like, if every time I see a certain highway, you know, I'm going to, if you woke up every day and said, I'm going to drive this highway, you'd be looking for it.
You'd be actively engaged in it.
And you'd be more likely to be driving on that highway.
When you're going down the road and making a turn on a certain road.
ian crossland
But waking up every day and saying there are 50 genders doesn't necessarily mean that's going to happen.
It's a different thing.
tim pool
They're not necessarily the same thing.
unidentified
I wonder.
tim pool
Constructivism is the idea that there is no objective reality.
Not that you can manifest it, though there is a kind of similar thing there.
However, I will say, to your point in the manifesting, I know a lot of extremely successful people who are convinced magic is real and manifest their existence and make things happen for them.
ian crossland
Do you do that?
unidentified
But the more you talk about it, the more kooky you sound.
tim pool
I was just at the casino and I was playing craps and I think I rolled like 30 times and all the people gambling were just like screaming and cheering because I kept rolling.
For those that are familiar with craps, I rolled a 5 first and then I rolled like 30 times until I hit 7 and was out.
unidentified
So it was just like, You were on a roll.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
The people were screaming and cheering because the money was just pouring in.
So people will put bets on 6 and 8 to come up because those are the next likely numbers after 7 for those that aren't familiar with craps.
And so basically the way it works is the first time you roll, you're looking for 7 or 11 to win.
If you roll, what is it?
I think 5, 6, 8, 9, or 10, then it's called on.
And then the shooter has to reroll that number to win again.
In between, you only lose at that point if 7 comes up.
So I'm rolling like crazy and people are just raking in crazy cash and they're just like screaming and cheering.
And there are people, I just think, you know, I had a good roll.
Maybe there's something to it, but I know a lot of very wealthy people who came from humble means who believe in magic.
They legit think.
And I'm wondering if like, there's a difference between that and any kind of faith.
I guess, I guess the difference is they have faith in themselves.
They believe in there's like some kind of spiritual power within them.
It's a really interesting narcissistic thing.
No wonder a lot of those people I know are in Hollywood.
unidentified
I know, but when it comes to being a creative person, any kind of artist, you know what it feels like to be in flow, to be in alignment, and that's when sometimes the most brilliant creations come about.
If I'm in a good space on stage, the stuff that I end up improvising hits harder than my material, and that's just because I'm in the present moment, and I'm focused, and I'm in flow.
tim pool
Some people just have it.
ian crossland
I think it's magnetic when you quiet your frontal lobe and you go into flow state, like the energy is fluxing through you, maybe more coherently.
tim pool
It's called Ultra Instinct, Ian.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
And Goku unlocked it.
ian crossland
You did too when you were rolling the dice.
You knew what numbers were up when you closed your hand and you shook it and you could measure the way they bounced around, subconsciously let it go.
tim pool
You knew with the right momentum.
I pick up the dice.
ian crossland
Someone knew.
tim pool
And I throw them.
I don't shake in my hand.
ian crossland
Your deep subconscious was calculating it for you.
tim pool
I just pick it up and throw it.
ian crossland
It's magnetic.
tim pool
All right, all right.
It's been great.
Let's go to these Super Chats and see what the Super Chatters have to say.
If you haven't already, smash that like button because it is a tremendously easy thing to do and it is tremendously powerful.
It really helps us.
Make sure you go to TimCast.com because we're going to have a fun, probably profanity-filled bonus segment after we wrap up here on the live show.
And, uh, like, share, subscribe, all that stuff.
Share the show if you really like it.
Let's read some Super Chats.
TheBlackBlade says, My wife's sister is training to be a nurse.
Super scared of COVID.
Wants the vaccine.
But she's currently six months pregnant.
We're not sure if that's a good idea with a baby in the womb.
Thoughts?
First.
Ask your doctor.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
They know better than all of us.
Now, that being said, I'm not giving medical advice.
I did read that it's like women who are pregnant should not get the vaccine.
lydia smith
But you know what I read?
I read there was a baby born after her mom got the vaccine and she was immune to COVID.
So talk to your doctor, I would say.
That's my advice.
tim pool
Your doctor knows better than anyone here on this show.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah, we don't know.
tim pool
Let me tell you this.
Your doctor knows better than Dr. Fauci.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Dr. Fauci can have all the opinions in the world, but your doctor knows what's right for you.
unidentified
They know you.
tim pool
So take advice from the people who you trust and respect with your health care.
Fisher Kingston says, Hope Luke is doing all right.
Just found out that my sixth great-grandfather, a John Steele, was chaplain to George Washington.
Crazy stuff.
And you know what's really crazy?
Did you ever look at like your family tree?
ian crossland
Yeah, Rufus Putnam.
He was one of Washington's generals.
tim pool
One of your dudes?
ian crossland
Yeah, he founded Marriott, Ohio.
tim pool
And how many descendants does he have, like?
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
A hundred thousand?
ian crossland
The Putnams, I think, and Putnam might have been up there.
I don't know.
tim pool
Wasn't one of the guys who founded Facebook named Putnam?
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
Maybe you're related to one of the Facebook guys, like, eight times removed.
No, but like if you look at family trees, it's crazy because like you go back six times, you'll find one dude, and then they'll have like 10,000 descendants.
It's crazy.
So it's like, you're like, wow, my great, great, great, great, great grandfather worked with George Washington.
It's like, yeah, and 100,000 other people have the same great grandfather.
So what else is new?
unidentified
That's funny.
tim pool
Crazy, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, especially the successful ones, man.
They have lots of kids, like Zeus.
tim pool
All right.
Gunn Griffin says, Bill Clinton at one point said, if you think the counterculture of the 1960s was the high point of America, then you're probably a liberal.
If you think America's peak was during and after World War II, you're probably a conservative.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So does that mean if we think that the 1960s was the high point, we're not conservatives or?
ian crossland
The high point of the U.S.
tim pool
What do you guys think of American of America?
unidentified
It depends how much drugs you did.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
I don't know if there was the high point.
I don't know.
lydia smith
What do you mean by high point?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Cultural renaissance.
Yeah.
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
That's tough to identify.
I think the high point is probably these past couple of decades before we fell into the until the cult of wokeness are taking over.
It really was like a great golden age.
unidentified
The 90s were great, man.
tim pool
Yeah.
Music, the economic expansion under athletics.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
And then the financial crash hit and everything started falling.
ian crossland
I noticed like 2000, 1999 is when they, when you would go to like log in and like fill out your, your account on a website, the United States would always be at the top of the countries to pick.
And then somewhere in like 2006 or seven, it started going alphabetical.
unidentified
Now we're back with the U's.
ian crossland
But then now in the last three years, it went back to the top again.
I don't know why.
unidentified
All my auto choices are China.
lydia smith
So weird.
unidentified
So weird.
tim pool
Okay, we got a spicy one.
Andy Tora says, Hey Tim, first time Super Chat on any channel.
On Friday, you guys said that women's sports don't have good rating because of bad marketing.
WNBA can't dunk and USW soccer get beat by high school team.
Women's tennis does really well.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like a very prominent event and Serena Williams is like a massive superstar.
What are they doing right that these other sports aren't doing right?
unidentified
They're wearing skirts.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And they grunt when they hit things, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, that's probably it.
ian crossland
Like, if you're trying to market WNBA to people that like to see slam dunks, you're not gonna sell tickets.
tim pool
I'm just saying, I think you can market, you can, if you have a show, you have a show.
It's a sport.
The sport exists.
So I look at women's tennis and I look at Serena Williams' success and wealth and she's like probably the most famous tennis player in the world.
Can you name any other tennis player?
Can you, can you guys name a tennis player?
unidentified
The other, the other Williams.
tim pool
No, no, no.
What's the Federer.
lydia smith
Yes.
unidentified
He's a tennis player.
ian crossland
Roger.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
He's Roger Federer.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
See Serena Williams.
I just know she's awesome.
She's, she's a massive superstar and she's really good in, and, and she's like the best.
Now you get these like, you know, woke.
Articles where they're like she's the greatest tennis player period and it's like well, come on, man She's definitely one of the best but she is playing in the Women's League and there was like some famous story about like some dude who was like low-ranking who?
Challenged the Williams sisters in one or something played hungover.
Yeah, but but regardless that just proves the point that when done, right I mean they're making more money than most tennis players period and How is it that they get all this marketing and make all this money?
It works.
Something's being done right.
I don't know if you guys agree.
ian crossland
Yeah, I would like to see marketing like women's basketball to hockey fans because it's more about precision strikes and like mild violence.
I mean, hockey is pretty violent.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Interesting.
So someone mentioned, uh, two nights, two nights in a row, the voice of the guest is not in sync.
Kills my brain.
Please fix it.
That's really weird.
I don't know what happened.
Uh, we did not change things, but, uh, we will, we will get it fixed, uh, for tomorrow.
Is that, that's happening?
Is that happening now?
lydia smith
It was a little bit this evening.
tim pool
Oh, weird.
lydia smith
Not as bad.
tim pool
Actually, for those that are listening, you're wrong.
Actually, our guests are just really good at delayed mouth movements when they speak, and there's no delay.
It's actually just natural.
unidentified
They're multidimensional guests.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
Yep.
tim pool
Patrick Conover says, has everyone forgotten about DeSantis' anti-riding law?
The addition to Florida's Stand Your Ground law that lets you shoot looters and riders.
Don't visit other people's homes and ruin it, people.
Yeah, man, that's scary.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Dee Vance says, Discovered Tim last spring.
Don't always agree, but love the conversation and respect the debate.
Any chance of having Tommy vexed on?
Think he'd be good.
lydia smith
Don't know who that is.
tim pool
Yeah, who's that?
Top Gundy says, The Care Bear Stare is a cult indoctrination method.
Federal premium ammo just sent pallets of 5.56 NATO ammo to Saudi Arabia instead of covering their orders in the U.S.
unidentified
What?!
That's nuts!
tim pool
Their website says they don't ship internationally.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
War with Iran, maybe?
Something happening?
They gotta get a big ol' shipment of bullets to Saudi Arabia?
Or conflict in Yemen?
Wow, that's nuts.
Man.
B. Anderson says, Christy Mayer and three hearts.
Is your name Christy?
unidentified
No, it's Chrissy.
Thanks for trying.
lydia smith
All good.
I'm Linda, too.
unidentified
A lot of my fans can't read or write.
tim pool
Megan Kos... I'm gonna pronounce your name wrong.
Kosiskak?
Kosiskak?
Pronouncing it wrong, probably.
Behavioral Sync.
It's a real thing.
ian crossland
What is it?
tim pool
That's the, like, the mouse utopia thing.
So, Escobol says, down the rabbit hole.
Mouse Utopia Behavioral Sync.
Yeah.
So, Blackrock Beacon says, Mice Utopia by John B. Calhoun.
Very unsettling results.
Everyone should read the papers he wrote on it.
It's scary stuff.
Yeah, man.
Cause like at a certain point, humans, we just kind of have food everywhere.
ian crossland
And you know, overstimulation when you're, when you're in proximity to other humans and you have unlimited amounts of food and sugar, I said sugar, you guys, uh, that you become overstimulated and psychotic.
tim pool
No, I think it's that there's nothing left to fear.
unidentified
Yeah, there's no more challenges.
We've made things too easy as a society.
ian crossland
Yeah, disassociated psychosis.
That's part of why these people are twerking.
unidentified
I can see it, yeah.
Makes sense.
tim pool
Cory Thomas says, the White Sox won the World Series in 2005.
Tim, you, Lydia, and yes, Ian, make my evening after work every day.
I'm escaping Cali to AZ in 10 days.
Congratulations, but AZ doesn't seem to be, you know, all that great.
Better than California.
2005, is that when that was?
Wow, so that's 16 years ago?
Wow, man.
Time flies when you're old.
Death's API says, another piece for the V for Vendetta plot is that America was in civil war and the media was state controlled, lying to everyone.
That's, that's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
In V for Vendetta, there's like news clips where they're like, America's civil war is, you know, now they're demanding aid.
And I say, we tell the colonists, the guy, uh, was it named Prothero?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
That movie's so good.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was great.
tim pool
William Martin says, Hey Tim, have you ever thought about having the Rageaholic on the podcast?
He's loud and brash in his rants, but he's expressed he is more than willing to be able to keep it clean for the setting.
I'm not familiar with Rageaholic, am I?
lydia smith
I am familiar with him.
He is very loud and very brash, and he would be a lot of fun.
I'll have to see what I can do.
tim pool
Crazy Thoughts Podcast.
Says, Tim, shout out my podcast.
This is my fourth Super Chat.
Love the show and keep it up.
That is a shout out for the Crazy Thoughts Podcast.
Talk about the most effective and cheapest advertising you can get for a $5 Super Chat.
ian crossland
Nice.
unidentified
There you go.
lydia smith
Clever.
tim pool
TopGundi says, did you see Dank's video?
No more offensive speech in Scotland.
Jail time and fines for saying your mind at home.
Wow.
ian crossland
What is offensive?
tim pool
Jason Solo says, Britain has had a constitution for more than 800 years, guys.
It's called the Magna Carta.
Please learn about the location you're talking about before you talk about it to thousands of people online.
Look, I don't know anything about no Magna Carta.
All I know is that I watch Carl Benjamin videos, and I remember there was something about an unwritten constitution which makes it hard for them to enforce things, and everybody knows Carl Benjamin is a better source than Jason Solo, because Jason was the now retconned son of Han, right?
Is that what it was?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so he doesn't exist anymore.
ian crossland
He came back from the forms.
tim pool
I'm half-kidding, by the way.
I don't know.
unidentified
Sorry, Jason.
tim pool
The civic nationalist says British subject we do not revolt the Queen is not going to abdicate we do not need a
constitution There is an unwritten rule that laws are for the towns and
cities not the countryside The monarchy is over 1,000 years old. God save the Queen.
Oh Thank you for the super check good, sir
Mayor bear says traveling internationally is a pain in the a right now. So spend less and travel domestically
That's why Florida is big this spring break.
unidentified
Makes sense.
tim pool
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
I was right.
tim pool
Man, we got a ton of superchats.
We get too many superchats sometimes, guys.
unidentified
It has to be my shirt.
Yeah, that's what does it.
tim pool
Yeah, they're all saying tits.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Every single superchat.
lydia smith
Every single one.
They're super short.
tim pool
Timothy Ike says, have you read, have you heard of the German-made television show Babylon Berlin on Netflix?
And it is crime drama centered around the Berlin Police Department in 1929, just before the rise of National Socialism.
Interesting.
Blackrock Beacon says, oh wait, there's something else.
That is a part two, it looks like.
Blackrock Beacon says, if you are having trouble approaching women, go build your confidence by doing hard stuff.
The harder the task you set out to master, the more confident you will be when you master it.
Rinse and repeat until women aren't scary.
No, because then you're gonna mansplain to the women.
Right?
So let's say you're a guy who gets really good at, say, you know, lumberjacking.
And then there's some woman who's hanging out with you, and she's trying to use the axe.
You can't mansplain to her, you know, right?
Because then women get angry and get offended.
unidentified
I don't know.
If I meet a man really good at lumberjacking, I just, I'll just watch.
Right, yeah.
We'll just sit on a tree stump, be like, take your shirt off, we're good.
ian crossland
I think modern day peacocking is like performance, like, like music.
For me it is.
unidentified
And being confident.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe the issue is, No more challenges anymore.
How does a guy impress a woman when we have food everywhere all the time?
Think about what people do for fun these days.
This is what always really bothered me.
People would be like, hey, you want to go out and do something?
I'd be like, sure, what is there to do?
You want to go to the park, go skating?
Well, we can go eat food and drink things.
unidentified
Or watch something.
tim pool
Every every I would say nine out of ten times growing up in Chicago moving living in New York living in LA Do you want to go out basically meant do you want to put things in your mouth?
unidentified
For me it did.
Woo!
Okay, okay.
lydia smith
Keep it together, lady.
tim pool
Yeah, but well, you know.
And I'm like, dude, I'll go to the skate park, you know?
Me and my friends in Chicago, we would take the train at like 11 p.m.
downtown with all the businesses shut down.
We would skate around the city when everyone's gone.
That was going out late night.
And then we got all done and started drinking.
But then when I'm like in my 20s, all anyone ever does is like, we're gonna go to the cafe and get drinks and chips or something.
It's like, That sounds boring, man.
Like you're not doing anything, you're just eating stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Lame.
ian crossland
We used to ride bikes.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
You guys ever do that?
unidentified
Oh yeah, rollerblading.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
tim pool
Going exploring.
lydia smith
Mini golf.
tim pool
We used to, when I was a little kid, we would just try and push our boundaries and ride our bikes as far as we could before we knew the lights would turn on and we'd have to go home.
And that was fun.
Then you get older and you've like, you know, you've got satellites, you've discovered everything, what's there to do?
I suppose a lot of people, like, we still haven't explored every part of the planet, and a lot of people think that we have, but we haven't, so... There's always something to go out and do, I guess.
unidentified
Okay, you wanna go, uh, explore the ocean with me?
Yeah.
tim pool
Definitely.
Yeah, like, we have satellite pictures of a lot of stuff, but it's not like we've been there.
For all you know, there's buried treasure, man.
ian crossland
Oh, there is.
unidentified
Definitely.
lydia smith
Sunken treasure.
tim pool
Buried treasure.
Alright, where we at?
I can't read this super chat's name.
He says, T.P.
has your crew figured out my new YouTube tag?
No.
I bugged it to make T.P.
joke to T.P.
as I receive T.P.
jokes.
We T.P.' 's are in high demand in 2020.
Well, I hope that was worth the $5 because you got me to read it.
unidentified
Tim, have you ever thought of selling pool supplies?
tim pool
Pool supplies.
lydia smith
That's a good idea.
tim pool
I think we can add, what can we put, like chlorine tablets on the site?
lydia smith
Yes, let's do it.
tim pool
You go to the pool shop.
lydia smith
Inflatables.
unidentified
Yeah, like an inflatable beanie.
tim pool
Yes!
And what it does is it floats and you can put stuff in it.
lydia smith
Yeah, like your phone.
tim pool
So it's in your pool, yeah.
unidentified
You can put it over your head and go underwater and breathe.
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
unidentified
Headphones that hold drinks.
tim pool
A gigantic inflatable beanie.
lydia smith
Yes, perfect.
tim pool
All right, Liberty TCM says, saw Chrissy in Royersford, PA.
My wife and I loved it.
She was great.
The whole thing was great.
Highly recommend.
unidentified
That was an awesome show.
tim pool
Definitely.
Chris Loves Hacks says, when you were talking about gingers, I thought of the scene from Game of Thrones when Tormund says, gingers are beautiful.
They are kissed by fire.
Oh, wow.
lydia smith
I like that.
tim pool
TheTexan83 says, Ginger's having no souls has been debunked, Tim.
If they didn't, then Thanos would have never gotten the Soul Stone, nor would Hawkeye have been able to get it.
Why, is he a ginger?
Or wait, what?
lydia smith
Hawkeye wasn't, no.
tim pool
He wasn't ginger.
lydia smith
Interesting.
unidentified
Black Widow was a ginger.
tim pool
Oh, I get it.
That's the point.
Because she sacrificed her soul for the Soul Stone.
Ah, what, is Gamora supposed to be a ginger?
She has green skin.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't know.
ian crossland
Depends on the lighting.
tim pool
The Scott says, I call changing a ginger for a POC, scabbling the gingler?
Like the board game Scrabble?
Oh, scrabbling?
lydia smith
Huh.
tim pool
Because if you rearrange the letters in... Oh, no, we're not reading that.
lydia smith
Nope!
tim pool
Jonathan Galterini says, there was an active shooter in Colorado earlier, and half of the questions at the press conference were about the race of the shooter and victims.
Reporters are trying to demand information on the races.
Modern journalism.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Well, that's what you get.
lydia smith
It's because it was in Boulder.
tim pool
Yeah, they're desperate for ratings, man.
That's what it's all about.
ian crossland
I feel like it's like the 80s all over again.
Do you guys remember how bad the 80s were by any chance?
lydia smith
No, I wasn't born yet.
tim pool
Yeah, I wasn't there.
I was three when the 80s was ending.
ian crossland
It was so lame.
I was born in 79, so I grew up and I thought, this is what life is.
Big hair, lots of hairspray, crappy music.
Not all of it was crappy.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
ian crossland
Most of it was crappy.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1991 saved the world.
No, no, no.
80s were so lame.
unidentified
It was just so much makeup and like weird... Blame for fashion.
tim pool
Never gonna give you up.
The greatest song of this or any generation.
ian crossland
I'm kidding.
And like now I feel like we're in another one of those like the kids are seeing this crap and like totally disenfranchised by it.
tim pool
Wasn't Take On Me in the 80s.
lydia smith
The Peche Mode.
Yes.
ian crossland
Yeah, some of it was good.
tim pool
Bro, the 80s makes the 90s look like dog crap.
ian crossland
No, man, the 80s was a hard decade to grow up in.
tim pool
Oh, what does the 90s have?
Closing time!
ian crossland
It had Radiohead and Pearl Jam and Nirvana.
tim pool
I guess you're right.
ian crossland
But it had a resurgence of culture after this crap in the 80s.
tim pool
What do the 2000s give us?
lydia smith
Nothing.
Emo, Britney Spears.
tim pool
Can we all agree 2000 sucked?
ian crossland
Coldplay was alright.
tim pool
Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Nirvana, The Offspring.
lydia smith
The 90s had Weezer early stuff okay I guess.
Radiohead, obviously.
ian crossland
We said, yeah, Radiohead was huge.
Dave Matthews Band.
tim pool
More Depeche Mode.
lydia smith
Yep, more Depeche Mode.
ian crossland
But what happened was after the crap of the 80s, we had like a cultural resurgence.
So I think that we might be headed for something like that.
tim pool
We may even have a part in it.
I hope so.
unidentified
I can't handle any more WAPs.
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously.
tim pool
What do we get from the 2010s?
ian crossland
Basically the intro to this crap.
tim pool
Yep.
No, like, what's some of the good music of the 2010s?
Oh, oh, oh, um, what's that one?
unidentified
The Weeknd?
tim pool
The Weeknd's pretty good.
What's the one where the guy's like, I broke up with you, and now I'm mailing at you?
Somebody I used to know.
ian crossland
There you go.
unidentified
Gautier.
lydia smith
Yeah, his one-take wonder.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that was all right.
But is there like a band or group you can name in the 2010s?
unidentified
The Foo Fighters are holding it together, but their hot stuff was in the 90s.
tim pool
Taking Back Sunday.
lydia smith
That was super emo.
Yeah, that was like 2000s.
tim pool
I like some of their stuff, though.
Them and Brand New.
And that's a good band.
Brand New's pretty good.
Yeah, I guess the audience had that.
Oh, you know what?
Daft Punk's been around forever.
So they kind of are the saving grace for a lot of these time periods.
ian crossland
Daft Punk was amazing in the 90s.
Blink-182.
lydia smith
Yeah, okay, I'm not crazy.
tim pool
Thank you.
unidentified
They were able to make pop punk cool.
tim pool
You guys in the super chat, you gotta give us some examples of good music from the 2000s and the 2010s.
Besides Britney Spears.
unidentified
We're all biased.
lydia smith
No, besides Britney, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, Radiohead has still been producing music.
Oh, Muse.
lydia smith
Oh, of course.
tim pool
Dude, Muse.
ian crossland
Amazing band.
tim pool
2000s had Muse.
They were in the late 90s into 2000s, and they're still around today, and Muse is one of the best bands ever.
Period.
No joke.
ian crossland
Oh, I really like Kings of Leon, too.
unidentified
Yes, Kings of Leon.
lydia smith
They're amazing.
ian crossland
All right.
tim pool
All right.
Sounds like there's some good music going on.
lydia smith
I just can't think of any right now.
ian crossland
It's clogged by all the autotune and all that.
unidentified
Yeah, except it's Kill Something.
lydia smith
Kill Switch Engage.
ian crossland
The Killers?
lydia smith
The Killers.
I don't like The Killers.
I love The Killers.
Don't listen to Tim.
Tim's wrong about The Killers.
ian crossland
Oh, Franz Ferdinand was hot, too.
tim pool
Yeah, they're pretty good.
MUSE has got some really epic hits, like Madness is just, like, amazing.
Oh, they're bassists.
But they're not in the billions.
unidentified
Oh, we had... The Black Keys are good.
tim pool
Yeah, they're amazing.
ian crossland
They're from my hometown.
tim pool
The 2010s gave us Psy, Gangnam Style.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
That was great.
lydia smith
Excellent.
tim pool
It was a lot of fun.
lydia smith
Classic.
tim pool
The Macarena for a new generation.
lydia smith
What about Numa Numa?
tim pool
That's Dragosta Dente by... what's the name of that band?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
But that's from the 90s, isn't it?
unidentified
Basically, annoying songs you hear at a wedding is what we got out of the 2010s.
ian crossland
Possibly, yeah.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you guys a secret.
You can tell the demographic of a restaurant by the music they're playing when you sit there.
If they're playing 80s music, you know they're going for Boomers.
If they're playing 90s music, they're going for Gen Xers.
If they're playing 2000s, they're going for you guys, Millennials.
You know.
And if they're playing, I don't know, what do kids listen to these days?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
If they're playing rag mop, they're going for your great-grandfather.
Rag mop.
All right, let's see.
TS says, my wife's a ginger with blue eyes, the same as Chrissy.
Are you aware it is the rarest hair and eye color combination?
Also, each freckle is a trapped soul of those she has smited.
Or is it smote?
unidentified
That's true.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
I think it's smote.
unidentified
Smote.
lydia smith
I don't know.
unidentified
Thou hast.
tim pool
Fine Castle says, remember when British and some Irish was the pinnacle of TV comedy?
Father Ted, The Inbetweeners, The IT Show.
Also hearing Tom Cruise was worth the... Oh, also hearing Tim Cuse was worth the $10 membership?
Oh, Tim Cuss.
unidentified
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
tim pool
There's an E on like, what's this?
lydia smith
Of course, yeah.
tim pool
As well as the interesting guests.
Oh, definitely.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, we swear up a storm over at TimCast.com.
It's fine.
Because we're allowed to.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
I guess it's not for the kids, so...
Buck Brink says, we need to start making fun of the woke non-stop.
Then it wouldn't be cool to be woke anymore.
It's not cool to be woke.
They're just, people are scared into being woke.
Like, who, who wants to be that?
You look at like that woke cancel culture journalist, that woman who's tweeting that she's a violent racist.
Who wants to tweet that about themselves?
unidentified
She clearly doesn't have the right friends.
Like I think the wokesters, they just, you're just, you don't have cool enough friends.
ian crossland
Yeah, you gotta keep your friends calm when they get called out by wokesters.
tim pool
This is why I think Ryan Long has some of the best comedy.
When he did that basketball game, teams, do you see that one?
So, do you see this one, Ian?
No.
ian crossland
He's picking- Oh wait, yes I did.
tim pool
There's left and there's right and they're picking basketball teams.
And the left guy is like, before you're on my team, have you ever said an opinion that is wrong?
Or like, you know, it's just like really insane.
But the best part is when the guy's like, fine, I guess I'm on the right.
Then the dude who's right wing goes, Hey, look at this meme.
Isn't that hilarious?
Like that's the gist of the right.
They're like sharing memes about Trump.
unidentified
We can meme.
lydia smith
We can, we love it.
tim pool
But like the guy begrudgingly becomes right wing because the left guy won't leave him alone.
And then the other guy's hiding because he loses his job.
He gets a phone call.
He's like, I just got fired.
Yeah, that's great stuff.
lydia smith
That's incisive.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Leo says Coinbase CEO announced the company will not take public stances on political issues.
He went as far to offer a severance package to those that did not agree with the company being neutral.
Five percent.
Sixty people left the company.
Whoa, is that real?
Why did they leave?
Because they are woke?
lydia smith
Oh, gotta look that up.
ian crossland
Sounds like it.
tim pool
Probably because non-woke people probably would just be like, I don't care.
Leave me alone.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Get them wokes out of there.
ian crossland
Oh, that's great.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got going on.
We have a request for 4K.
And then YouTube does this thing where... Oh, now everyone's naming these bands like crazy.
lydia smith
There's a ton.
tim pool
All right, this is good.
This is good, though.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
There's gonna be a lot of angry folks like, how could you forget these great bands?
Yeah.
Man, a ton came in.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
Billy Corgan.
What's his band?
lydia smith
Smashing Pumpkins.
tim pool
Yeah, Smashing Pumpkins.
They're good.
ian crossland
Oh, dude, the 90s.
tim pool
Like, one of the greatest albums ever written.
ian crossland
Yeah, Dave Grohl made Nirvana.
They were terrible before he joined.
He was so good.
His harmonies and his drums.
tim pool
Roger That Trucker says, please invest in 4K, waiting to join your website when you do.
4K is intense, no joke.
All of our cameras literally say 4K on them, but ingesting 4K into a computer, we're gonna need to upgrade that stuff.
And the issue is, when we did do 4K before, people actually complained.
Because of the amount of data they were downloading, I suppose, I don't know if this is true now for the live streams, but I was just like, we'll just, I mean, people are mostly interested in the audio, not the video component of it, so we just went to 720.
Is it 1440?
unidentified
Is that 4K?
ian crossland
Or just 1080?
4K is 2160.
3, 3.8, 4, 3840 over 2160?
Or just 1080 for a 4k is 2160. Oh 3 3 8 4 38 40 over 2160. So it is I don't know
tim pool
No, I don't think so.
Maybe, is it?
unidentified
2160.
ian crossland
I don't know, but you can always downscale it if you're watching, right?
tim pool
Yeah, and then one of the problems we had was that the original web hosting we were doing for TimCast.com didn't have that ability.
So the higher resolution files were too big for people to watch.
So then we had to switch things up, and ultimately, 4K's way more expensive to host, way larger files, way longer to upload, and a lot of people asked us not to do it, so we didn't.
Although, we could theoretically have more than one For the time being, I don't think we necessarily need to do it.
Woodworking Medic says, men are told to suck it up and suffer in silence.
People don't realize how bad the male depression suicide rate is because we aren't allowed to talk about it.
The future of relationships scares me with toxic femininity.
Jack Murphy had it right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Uh-oh, what's this?
Dislabeled says Chrissy is a thief who stole Christmas presents from an old woman.
Is that, oh, is that, is that not real?
unidentified
No, it's not real.
Oh.
ian crossland
But would you?
unidentified
I don't know.
Why would you do that?
Probably not.
ian crossland
It's weird.
tim pool
Oh, hey, look at that.
Dixie Devil says Michael Malice had a show on Compound Media for a couple of years as well.
Everything is archived.
I've been subbed since day one and it's kept me sane through all the woke garbage.
Cool!
Michael, you get way too much promotion on this show.
unidentified
I know, right?
tim pool
Well, blame Dixie Devil for the super chat.
The Lee says the guest cam is always desynced with the audio.
I've said guest for me.
This just happened one other time.
With Siraj.
Yeah, with Siraj last week, so we just need to fix it.
lydia smith
We'll tinker with it.
tim pool
We'll get it fixed tonight.
I think I know what the issue is.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's a really, really simple fix.
unidentified
Perfect.
tim pool
Dustin Rorick says the manifest theology came out of Christianity from humanists who infiltrated it.
These individuals were bringing in the occult.
Anton LaVey in the Church of Satan thought this do-what-thou-will occult.
Interesting.
Alright, let's see.
Do we have, uh... Where are all these bands?
lydia smith
Where'd they go?
tim pool
I wanna see some bands.
ian crossland
Cootie the Blowfish.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, I liked them, okay?
ian crossland
Me too, I had their album.
lydia smith
Nine Inch Nails.
tim pool
Nine Inch Nails, for sure.
ian crossland
Alanis Morissette.
tim pool
The 80s had Ernest Saves Christmas, enough said.
Dude, the 80s had Ed Ernest.
ian crossland
Oh, Ernest!
lydia smith
Come on.
tim pool
Ian, check out the 80s band Joe Man's Man and the Midnight Revival Band, they're pretty awesome and underrated.
ian crossland
That's a cool name, I've never heard of them before.
tim pool
Ian, the 80s were the best time.
The 90s started the downturn in America.
lydia smith
I don't think so, really?
tim pool
Top Gundy says, Ian, I will fight you.
The 80s had Queen.
ian crossland
Well, the 70s had Queen, too.
Queen was around for a long time.
Prince was around in the 70s, too, wasn't he?
tim pool
Joseph Hoffman says, Tim, you once said you play Destiny 2.
Are you a warlock, titan, or hunter main?
My guess is titan.
I don't play Destiny anymore.
At the time, my first character was warlock, and then I eventually switched to a hunter.
I played Warlock because I didn't know anything about the game and just picked Warlock.
And then once I realized, you know, and got into it, it wasn't until Destiny 2 I switched to Hunter actually.
Queens of the Stone Age, Arcade Fire.
Yeah, you know what?
I do like Khorne.
ian crossland
Khorne's got some good music.
I can't remember.
tim pool
Avenged Arctic monkeys were great.
Is that the 2000s?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Tool.
Airborne toxic event.
unidentified
What is it?
ian crossland
I'm not familiar.
tim pool
Oh, the gorillas, man.
lydia smith
Yep.
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
How did we miss them?
ian crossland
That's Blur, the guy from Blur.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, definitely.
And that was 2000s.
ian crossland
Well, Blur was like 90, 95 or something or 93.
tim pool
System of a Down.
Pretty good.
ian crossland
That was when I started to fall out of music.
tim pool
Metallica.
That was 90s.
ian crossland
They were 80s.
Metallica.
They actually kind of created rock and... Well, Guns N' Roses kind of created... Guns N' Roses, obviously.
unidentified
Amazing.
tim pool
Dragonforce in the 2000s.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, definitely.
Dragonforce is amazing.
lydia smith
Babymetal.
Never heard Babymetal.
tim pool
A lot of people saying Avenged Sevenfold.
Queen's of the Stone Age.
Taking Back Sunday.
Brand new.
Hawthorne Heights.
Senses fail.
Story of the Year.
They used.
Thrice.
Tons of good 2000s stuff.
Emo was the best.
lydia smith
Yes it was!
Thank you!
tim pool
Taking Back Sunday had some good stuff.
Brand new.
Really like brand new.
Hawthorne Heights I think only had like one or two singles.
Senses fail.
Story of the year.
Not super familiar.
The Used.
You know what, man?
The Used had a lot of really great stuff very early on.
Seriously.
Compare some of the earlier lyrics, like Blue and Yellow, to The Bird and the Worm, and I'm like, it seems like they just kinda...
I don't know.
Lost it?
Or just didn't care?
lydia smith
That's what happens with music.
tim pool
What about Coldplay?
Buried Myself Alive?
The lyrics for Buried Myself Alive by The Used are amazing.
And like, the structure of the song, it's really in-depth.
There's a lot of words telling you the story and explaining something.
And then you look at their later stuff and it's just like, eh.
lydia smith
That's how it goes.
ian crossland
Yep.
Cake?
lydia smith
Cake, yes.
Nice and weird.
ian crossland
He was so wasted.
He was like, I don't know how many albums we've done.
Beck?
Beck was like mid-90s.
That was a good album.
Odelay is a great album.
tim pool
All right, we'll do one more super chat here.
Mason Swanner says, Tim, if you are an island with 50 other people, no food supply, only water, how long before you would turn to cannibalism?
Never.
I would die because you do not want to get the shakes.
What is it called?
Encephalopathy or encephalitis?
lydia smith
I think it's encephalopathy.
I'm not sure.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Eating prions?
Yeah, it's a prion disease.
tim pool
You get the shakes.
ian crossland
That's like folded protein.
tim pool
Nah, I'm alright.
unidentified
Is that why Chrissy Teigen is so erratic?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
I'll just eat fish on an island like there's fish, you know?
ian crossland
Yeah, it's an island.
tim pool
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, smash that like button and head over to TimCast.com, become a member because we're gonna have probably a profanity-laced special exclusive members-only segment coming up.
at just around 11 or so because we got recorded still.
You can follow me on all platforms, on all social media platforms at TimCast.
My other YouTube channels are youtube.com slash TimCast and youtube.com slash TimCastNews.
This show is live Monday through Friday 8 p.m.
so we will be back tomorrow.
If you haven't already, leave us a good review, give us five stars, smash the like button, and share with your friends because it really, really does help.
Chris, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Oh yeah, just check out Compound Media, my show.
The Wet Spot is Mondays at 7.30 p.m.
Eastern and check out the Chrissy Mayer podcast on iTunes, YouTube, Spotify and SoundCloud.
ian crossland
You said you were going to be touring coming up?
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
My tour.
Oh, gosh.
I'm going to be in Florida, Boca, Palm Beach, Sidesplitters in Tampa, Nashville, Huntsville, Alabama.
So many cities.
ian crossland
Is that all on your website?
unidentified
It's on my website.
Go to ChrissyMayer.com.
Everything's updated there.
lydia smith
Sweet.
ian crossland
You guys can also follow me at IanCrossland.net.
Get all my socials there.
Love having you.
Thank you guys so much.
Chrissy, it's awesome to meet you, man.
unidentified
This is great.
Thanks for having me.
lydia smith
And you can follow me at Sour Patch Lids on Twitter and Mines and Real Sour Patch Lids on Gab and Instagram.
tim pool
We will see you over at TimCast.com in the exclusive members-only segment.
Thanks for hanging out.
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