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Timcast IRL - Gina Carano Censored, FIRED From Lucasfilms And DROPPED From Her Agency w/Blaire White
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tim pool
A couple nights ago, I was talking, we had a, actually when was this?
It was last week.
Jack Murphy was on the podcast, and I think we were talking about Mandalorian.
And I said, you know, I give it like a C+, I enjoyed the first season, it's okay, but not good enough to where I was like, oh, I gotta watch season two.
And then he said, no, no, trust me, it gets better.
And I was like, all right, I'll watch it.
So I started watching these episodes, and I really do enjoy the show, I think it's great.
And I think Gina Carano, particularly, does a great job as Cara Dune.
Well, as most of you know, she has been cancelled, fired, over what is like a pretty mild post that actually was... I mean, she was basically saying, don't demonize your neighbor.
Well, any excuse for the woke mob to destroy someone for whatever reason, and it was taken, and now...
It's not just about the criticism over cancel culture.
It turns out Pedro Pascal, the lead of the show, had a very similar tweet in 2018 where he compared, or he was trying to compare, the United States to World War II Germany, the only problem.
What people are saying, and I'm not sure, I've in fact fact-checked this, so check me on this one.
The image she posted wasn't even from America.
It was 2010, and it wasn't even kids in cages because the door was, like, open.
It was just some nonsensical, you know, virtue signal.
But that was fine.
For Gina Carano to say, hey, you know, don't demonize your neighbor, that's what they did in World War II Germany, they're like, that is abhorrent, how dare you defend Republicans.
And thus, she's been fired from Lucasfilms, which she was also supposed to get, like, another show they were reporting.
Also dropped from her agency, United Talent, which is one of the biggest agencies.
That's huge.
So we got a big cancel culture episode for you guys today because we've got mass censorship.
We've got, you know, there's this documentary that got pulled down.
I don't know a whole lot about it, and I'm not here to praise it or criticize it.
Just talk about the removal.
It's called Planet Lockdown.
The media says it was a conspiracy theory document, but it got 20 million views before it was removed, and now we don't even know it was being set.
So we're going to talk about all this stuff and other things like what Apparently, Biden wanted some restrictions on Florida because Florida's releasing the lockdown.
It's gonna get spicy.
But joining us today, we have an awesome guest, the ultra-famous Blair White.
blaire white
Hi.
I wore a beanie just for you, to be on brand.
unidentified
Oh, excellent.
tim pool
To be on brand.
lydia smith
Beautiful.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it is mandatory, but Luke and Ian just continually defy the rules.
ian crossland
Shirk the law.
luke rudkowski
We're rebellious.
tim pool
Do you want to just give a brief introduction for people who might not know you?
blaire white
Yeah, sure.
I'm a YouTuber, internet personality, I guess.
I've been around since 2016.
I do a lot of commentary on culture, and you and I have kind of ran in the same circles for a few years.
So is this our first time doing something on camera together, really?
tim pool
I think so.
I think we were at an event once together.
blaire white
Yeah, it was the MythCon thing.
tim pool
I hung out in LA once.
blaire white
That was like the con 2017 Halloween.
tim pool
Yes!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, right on.
blaire white
Those were the days.
tim pool
So, yeah, you got a big YouTube channel and we'll talk about stuff.
We also got Lukardkowski.
luke rudkowski
I refuse the beanie!
lydia smith
Yes!
luke rudkowski
Welcome back, beautiful and amazing human beings.
My name's Lukardkowski of WeAreChanged.org and I have upgraded.
I am no longer just a t-shirt vendor.
I am...
A vendor of a bunch of things.
Board games, customized probiotics, water filters, you name it!
And if you're interested in some of those products and want to support me, you can on wearechange.org forward slash donate and because you do, I'm here and thank you very much for having me.
ian crossland
Yeah, that was good.
He's a master.
blaire white
Subscribe to my channel.
I didn't plug anything.
ian crossland
Blair, I'm so glad you're here.
Early adopter of Minds technology, helping us kind of, I don't, you didn't know that I was involved with it at the time.
blaire white
Yeah.
ian crossland
Free speech all the way.
Hey, and, uh, I was going to ask, do you have Twitter?
I was going to shout out your name on Twitter.
blaire white
I don't know if you're on Twitter.
Somehow I still have Twitter.
I don't know how I'm not on the end.
Let me knock on wood.
ian crossland
What is your Twitter name?
blaire white
It's MsBlairWhite, MsBlairWhite.
ian crossland
Thanks a lot.
And shout out to the kombucha, this is the pineapple basil, it's very good.
blaire white
Shouting out your own kombucha.
Shout out kombucha!
unidentified
I'm here in the corner pushing buttons.
tim pool
Thank you guys.
So I think I think on a launch of my own pillow company and I think I'm going to call it our
pillow.
So I'm jokingly going to make a pillow.
Like, not a legit company, but just like as merch.
Just because, you know what, it's time for a... The real criticism of my pillow is that it's my pillow?
No, no, our pillow.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
We're in this together.
But let's talk about cancel culture.
Before we do, head over to TimCast.com, become a member, because we've got some pretty serious stuff that we just put up.
We did an after show members only exclusive segment with Matt Brainerd we had on last night talking about, well let me just read the title, Matt Brainerd announces report on illegal ballots in Georgia and explains the results and we get, I don't know, we may have said things that YouTube would actually ban so we wanted to make sure that it was on the website if you want to watch it become a member and there's this I'll be careful with what I say, because, you know, YouTube is ban-happy.
We're literally talking about cancel culture and the threat, where if we try and speak freely, they'll nuke you.
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However, in the future, we will have free content.
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Let's talk about the latest news with Lucasfilm.
You guys maybe have heard, because it was the number one trending story last night after we did the show, we have this from Variety.
Lucasfilm and United Talent drop Mandalorian star Gina Carano following offensive social media posts.
I'm sorry, I don't think the posts.
Well, look, I guess offensive is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.
But she basically made a post.
It looked like she was quoting someone else who said that in World War II Germany, they pitted neighbor against neighbor.
And that's what gave the, you know, the political party there, I would just say the Nazis, the ability to then round people up.
They got the people of the country all angry.
They were demagoguing.
The crazy thing about what she posted is it's exactly what the left has been complaining about with Donald Trump.
They said Donald Trump is a demagogue who is villainizing people and tearing us apart.
So then Gina Crono's basically like, yeah, you know what?
That's what they did in World War II Germany.
We shouldn't do this.
And they were like, you bigot!
Ban her!
Well, the big news, the big update is that, well, Disney's kind of getting slammed because Pedro Pascal did something very similar and he's the star of the show.
So he's able to post these comparisons claiming the U.S.
is like Nazi Germany.
Nobody cares.
This should be just proof to anybody that we're dealing with, with hypocrites who don't actually care about what they're saying.
It is absolute BS.
And, uh, I canceled, I canceled my Disney Plus.
unidentified
You guys canceled Disney Plus?
blaire white
I don't know, but I think what's interesting is that she didn't even mention leftists or Democrats or the left in her post, unless I'm mistaken.
So it's kind of like if the shoe fits, like if someone's talking about Nazis and you get mad, you might be a Nazi.
Right.
And like you said, the entirety of the left has been making Nazi comparisons for the past four or five years over Trump and over right-wingers in general.
tim pool
Why did they fire Gina Carano?
Like, I've been thinking about this all day because I recorded a segment earlier in the morning.
It can't be for the stated reason.
Maybe they just didn't want her.
They wanted to find a reason to fire her.
And they were like, oh, here's our chance.
blaire white
Well, she's been an undercover Hollywood conservative for a minute.
I remember back in, I think it was August or September, they were trying to get her back then too.
Because she made some kind of post about pronouns in bio.
Yeah, she made a boot pump beep post.
And which I thought was funny.
tim pool
Is that a meme or something?
Or is this?
blaire white
It was she was making fun of like R2-D2 Saying that was the pronoun
luke rudkowski
She also posted about individuals like Epstein and You know a lot of people in Hollywood and government are
usually connected to individuals like that And you know, it's just absolutely scary and dangerous what's
happening because it's so Orwellian. It's so backwards We have unaccountable billionaire corporate executives deciding which speech is okay and which speech they should censor because it's dangerous, when in reality, them doing that is dangerous.
And it's absolutely ridiculous.
tim pool
But that's why I'm saying I don't think I feel like there's something else going on here.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, of course Yeah, because what do you mean?
tim pool
Well, the the boop bop beep thing was more offensive, you know It was like it was considered offensive to pronouns or whatever.
Not that I not that I think it was offensive I like none of its offensive.
blaire white
Everyone is so there must be something else too.
I don't get it.
Maybe she Made the wrong people mad.
luke rudkowski
Yeah Everyone's so jaded.
tim pool
She's defiant.
That's what I'm thinking.
luke rudkowski
You can't fake offense.
There's no way.
I mean, we saw a little of the kind of, like, outrage by the blue checkmarks yesterday before the major decision was made, because we were talking about actually talking about this story right before we went on.
tim pool
I didn't think they'd fire her.
luke rudkowski
I didn't think it would go this far, and then after the show, I'm like, holy cow, they fired her from the show, and then a lot of actors are pissed off, a lot of people on the show are pissed off, and they should be.
I mean, this is leading towards this kind of situation that's going to cause brain drain in one way or another, whether it's people who want to come here who are gonna be afraid because people are just getting cancelled because of their opinions, That are milquetoast, that are not even that wild, that are not even that partisan.
She was talking about a historical reference where people were riled up so much that they started to hate their neighbor.
Something, of course, that many people prove why the actions today is a legitimate threat.
And they proved it.
blaire white
It's exactly what's happening.
tim pool
You know what this reminded me of?
When Luke and I were in Hamburg, Germany for the G20, there was a moment where Luke was just walking down the street with some, just like a random local journalist, and someone pointed and yelled Nazi Schweinhund at Luke, and then random people who were just sitting nearby jumped up and ran up and started punching him.
You can tell the story better than I can.
luke rudkowski
I even have history of my family fighting the Nazis, fighting the communists, as a Polish-born proud person.
I'm like, why am I in Germany getting called a Nazi getting attacked and jumped and beat up by these people?
I was like, are you freaking kidding me?
tim pool
But think about this.
What was particularly striking about what happened to you was that there were people just sitting on the ground like
on the curb and as soon as they heard the word they jumped up having no idea who you are or what you were doing and
started beating you.
luke rudkowski
And it was brutal because like it wasn't just like one group of people.
It was organized in a way where I was able to push away, get away and then down the block someone would hit me and
then down the block someone else would hit me.
And I'm like, I can't get I have to keep running because they were everywhere.
And they were there was literal squads of individuals with my photos and a whole team of them running around not just
my photos.
There was other journalists, independent journalists, mainstream media journalists that weren't even connected to
us.
They just had photos taken next to us.
They were just our friends that were just there that had nothing to do with anything political.
They got the crap beat out of them because they had Antifa hit squads literally looking at photos running through all the crowds.
tim pool
That's not the issue, right?
The issue is that there were people who didn't have those photos What?
who were just like, there was like a guy and he's like sitting on the ground eating chips.
And then as soon as he hears someone yell Nazi, he runs up and starts hitting Luke,
having no idea why he's doing it.
What I see with what Gina Carano posted and then what happens now still with the same,
it's the same thing.
I don't care if they're fascists or anti-fascists, they seem to love to just randomly beat people
they don't know.
Granted, one was substantially worse.
We're trying to stop the authoritarians from moving in this direction.
Why?
Because Disney fires Gina Carano while thanking the paramilitary group in Xinjiang that is running Uyghur concentration camps.
So forgive me if you're like, how dare you compare Antifa to the fascists?
Well, the Antifa people apparently are cheering on Disney, who is thanking the paramilitary group running a concentration camp of a religious minority.
It kind of feels like we're getting dangerously close to some real world parallels.
luke rudkowski
And she proved it today with her post.
And Lucasfilm released a statement and they said her Twitter posts were, quote, adhorrent and unacceptable.
I mean, are you kidding me?
And those are the statements that, of course, Twitter, of course, ran with.
So whenever you clicked on the story, it said Gina was fired for adhorrent social media posts.
And of course, they don't mention, they don't list what the post was.
And when you really look at it, Jeffrey Epstein, this beep-bop thing, this Nazi comparison, not even comparison, but just saying, hey, this happened during history, we shouldn't let it happen now.
tim pool
Hold on, wasn't Walt Disney like a raging anti-Semite?
lydia smith
He was, yes.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
He's offended that Disney's offended because she's calling them out.
luke rudkowski
If anyone should be canceled, it's Disney for their participation with the with the Uyghur Muslim police force.
They're tied to Walt Disney of all people.
And, you know, their cartoons also have a long history that that's very controversial.
There's a lot of things we can bring up.
I mean, if we're going to do anything, not just cancel your membership, cancel Disney all in general.
If you want to play by these rules, cancel all of these people.
blaire white
I wish people weren't such cowards.
Because half of Hollywood is conservative.
I would say half.
Generous.
And no one is speaking up on her behalf that is a conservative in Hollywood.
And it's like they're just sitting there hoping that it doesn't eventually hit them and it's going to, whether it's in February, the summer, fall, at some point they're going to get you too.
Because in my opinion, celebrities who don't speak about politics are always conservatives.
And we talked about that earlier.
It's like, if you're not talking about it, you're probably at least right leaning.
And that's all it takes.
Because like we said, she wasn't even saying anything super partisan.
tim pool
I was in L.A.
a couple years ago, and there was some, like, B-list celebrity guy, and he was talking to people, and someone who was, you know, we were out in the street, one of the guys who was there was a Trump supporter, and so he was talking to the celebrity, and then when everyone started leaving, he's like, this dude voted for Trump, and he goes, shh!
blaire white
But like I also hate it yeah that everyone is so cowardly because at the end of the day Because no one's speaking up it does make the few people who speak up they take all of the heat And I've always talked about that so it's it's very frustrating I've always hung out with some make celebrities whenever I go to LA and all of them treat me like their secret girlfriend like oh Just don't tell anyone.
luke rudkowski
I'm like, dude, you don't even gotta tell me that.
I'm not, you know, fanboying or gonna take a picture with you.
Just relax and calm down.
Like, I love your stuff.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about this.
I want to know about this.
blaire white
And they're dying to talk about it.
luke rudkowski
They're dying to talk about it.
They love that.
They have a lot of passion.
And I'm not gonna, you know, tell you exactly who it is, but there's a bunch of them.
And there's a big community of people that have to literally be quiet about their own personal beliefs, about something that they truly deep down believe is true that they can't even openly talk about because they're scared of getting the hammer across their head.
tim pool
Those ideas will die with them.
blaire white
That's it.
tim pool
That's the point.
If you don't say them, they go away.
It's like the mask, right?
You wear the mask so you can't spit the coronavirus at people.
So they're putting a mask over your ears so that you can't, well actually no, it's literally a digital mask and a physical mask.
This is what's really crazy about what's going on.
I think the reason they got rid of Gina is not because of this one post, it's because she's a rebel.
Because she defies the orthodoxy.
It's a series of posts and they're like, we cannot have someone going against us because they don't want this individual gaining power.
They don't want celebrities to go up and foment some kind of revolt against the establishment.
But I tell you what's worrying, I mentioned this before, you can't go to a bar.
The bars are all under restrictions.
So people aren't meeting each other, they're not sharing ideas, they're not talking.
So they go online.
But those ideas online that are bad are filtered out because it's hate speech or wrong think or whatever.
So what they're doing is the longer they stay locked down, The more they are controlling exactly what people think and hear and say.
blaire white
That is so true.
And you know, so I live in LA.
Pray for me.
And they just started reopening outdoor dining.
Of course, it's freezing.
No one's eating outdoors.
But along with it was a stipulation that you couldn't turn the TV on in restaurants.
Restaurant owners could not have their TVs on.
And it's like, it really is about a control of information, a control of conversation.
And like you said, of meeting people, exchanging ideas, starting to question, why have I been on my knees begging for money for the past year from the government?
Why?
Like, maybe the mask thing doesn't make as much sense as people think.
Maybe this doesn't make as much sense.
It's about control of the conversation.
And it's so disturbing.
tim pool
We're going to get banned.
ian crossland
Instagram.
Just said they're going to start banning people for hate speech and direct messages.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, that's not just them.
I mean, we could list a whole number of individuals that were banned that were hit today.
But I think the larger context of why this is happening is this larger insecurity, police state that we've seen be the epitome of the Biden administration.
We've seen them uh you representatively be surrounded by police officers trying to look tough and i think this is another example of this exemplified with just striking someone down who wasn't really saying anything controversial words wasn't saying anything crazy but this is going to have a chilling effect not just in hollywood but in the larger social media political spectrum where people are like well i don't want my twitter account taken down i better not even
Dare to talk about history because if I do, they're going to destroy me and I'm going to lose my job.
My agency is going to take me down.
And then this is going to reverberate amongst people.
And we have to understand it only works because we let it work.
This chilling effect, this fear, the silencing efforts have been done in many coordinated ways.
And this is why for so many reasons, big tech oligarchs, social media companies like Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, they never tell you exactly why they ban you.
They never give you a reason.
They never give you a way to even answer yourself or even have a fair hearing or even have a decision that you could be held accountable for.
No.
Blanket cut.
No accountability.
tim pool
No transparency.
luke rudkowski
Life sentence.
Forever deleted from the discourse.
Not being able to talk.
Ever.
Because why?
We don't even know.
tim pool
And that's the reason.
blaire white
People don't want to experience that.
And the way I know it's real, what people are feeling, that fear that you talked about is that Even I sometimes catch myself feeling it and I have made a living off being outspoken on the internet for years and even I sometimes before I say something I'm like should I say that?
Which always makes me want to say it more but still it's like imagine the person who is working a nine-to-five who is working in a corporate environment where they can't say anything.
You know my fiancee was working at a job where over the summer He's not working there anymore so I can say this now.
But his job was donating like a ton of proceeds from the shoots he was doing.
He works in production in Hollywood.
From money they made to bailing out rioters.
And he couldn't say anything about it.
He's like, so I'm working this company generating revenue and they're sending that to bail out rioters who are destroying the city I'm living in.
Where I'm now unsafe because they're destroying the city I'm living in.
So that's what it is.
People can't say anything.
tim pool
Hollywood is funding terrorists?
blaire white
Basically.
tim pool
Yeah.
You have people who go around threatening you.
They threaten your business, they threaten your life, they destroy it.
And then you have these personalities, these faux progressives who cheer that on.
Then when they deploy the National Guard en masse to DC to lock the place down, these supposed anti-fascists who think the US government is this evil empire, Cheer that on.
No, these are people who are just, they're bootlickers, but that's probably being generous.
They're literally the boot.
They're a tool of the state to suppress.
blaire white
What happened to the ACAB?
All cops are bad.
What happened to that?
That went out the window so quick once they were back in power.
tim pool
Well, the National Guard aren't cops, so they get a free pass.
unidentified
True.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, but an unarmed woman was shot and killed.
Right.
tim pool
And the story now, apparently, this officer from the Capitol wasn't actually hit in the head.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't know what happened.
Some reports I saw said they think it may have been pepper spray.
luke rudkowski
Well, there's reports of him answering back and talking to family, saying he was okay, and then the next day passing away.
And it's still a mystery because we don't know what happened.
And if you look at the casualty rates, I mean, there's a heart attack, there's someone being trampled.
It's all Trump supporters.
Even there's reports of the officer being a Trump supporter.
You know what I love?
I love all of a sudden the Democrats falling over themselves to defend Mitt Romney.
especially if we're going to be using this event for such an example to lead us into
this new political sphere.
We should understand what happened here if we're going to use this as an example and
keep talking about it, right?
tim pool
You know what I love?
I love all of a sudden the Democrats falling over themselves to defend Mitt Romney.
There's a video of Mitt Romney being ushered to safety and they're like, Mitt Romney was
almost hurt!
And I'm like, is this the first time you cared about a Republican?
blaire white
Right.
tim pool
I think so.
blaire white
I'm old enough to remember the things that were said about Bush, McCain, Romney.
It's like they treated him and maybe people that are a little younger than me, I guess I'm not that old, don't remember, but they treated them just like Trump.
Like Romney was racist and sexist and McCain was racist and sexist and so was Bush.
tim pool
Dog on the car.
Oh, I remember that.
blaire white
I don't remember that.
tim pool
He put a dog carrier on his roof or something?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Mitt Romney is awful.
blaire white
He is awful, but it's like the rewriting and suddenly everyone loves him.
It's like, ugh.
tim pool
I can respect that they don't want the man to get hurt.
I don't want to get hurt either.
I mean, I like the guy, but I wish him nothing but safety and, you know, a long life and happiness with his family.
So I get it, but I just love this idea that people screaming he was a fascist trying to take over the country in 2012 all of a sudden are like, this poor man!
luke rudkowski
We have to understand these are limited people and their reactions that benefit the establishment.
Limited people?
These are a few people.
These are not the majority of people.
These are not a big representation of everyone.
There's not that many of them, but when they do speak, their voices are elevated through the algorithms, through the news feeds.
that curate and make you see this to spin this larger divide-and-conquer cycle.
And I think, by and large, people don't like this because when you look at the number one downloaded app in the world right now, can you guys guess what it is?
tim pool
TikTok?
luke rudkowski
No, Telegram.
tim pool
Telegram.
luke rudkowski
The third one is Signal.
All communication efforts... I heard negative things about Telegram.
I still have to do more research about this.
They've been accused of censoring posts as well and working with governments.
I still haven't been able to verify that.
I need to do my own research on that.
But when you look at Telegram, when you look at Signal, they represent communications that are away from the control of the state, away from the moderators, away from the mainstream media that will censor you and try to ruin you and take away your job and take away your existence as a human being in our society for having the wrong political opinion.
And essentially, I mean, what we're seeing here is journalists, some blue check mark individuals being highlighted, promoted by these big tech oligarchs that are celebrating the destruction of someone's career.
And that's sick in its own twisted own way.
And then the analogy I had here, it's like they're smelling blood in the water, but the sharks aren't the journalists.
The big tech billionaires are the sharks and the journalists are the bottom feeders that are eating off the sharks poop.
Family-friendly show.
I was going to say something else.
That's the analogy of what's happening right now.
And that's why we're seeing even Mexico propose a law just recently that would open up big tech media companies to fines.
tim pool
We'll get into Mexico.
I think we should stick to America first because I wanted to bring this up, this point right here.
Who do you think is responsible for the fact that this all got really, really bad?
The censorship and everything.
First and foremost, Hitler.
I'm not going to blame the victims.
I think it's the left, the Democrats, the political establishment.
They want the censorship.
Progressives cheered it on.
And then they started getting censored, going, oh no, why am I getting banned?
Well, because you empowered them to do this.
Interestingly though, one of the politicians that we have, Ted Cruz, who has been very vocal about censorship and calling it out, said something very interesting.
The Blaze reports, Ted Cruz, you can blame the Trump administration for not reining in big tech censorship.
blaire white
Yeah, bingo.
tim pool
I could never get the people in the administration executing the policy to get serious about stopping censorship.
Here, here, Ted Cruz.
blaire white
Wow.
100%.
It was an entire four years in office and that we had the power.
Republicans had the power.
I don't know if I consider myself a Republican anymore.
We didn't do anything.
And it was almost the biggest complaint we had because it was just getting worse and worse and worse.
I remember every year leading up to the 2020 election, everyone was saying, at least on the right wing sphere, was saying, you know, that it's going to get worse and worse and worse and worse.
And it just kept going and no one did anything.
tim pool
And I and many others said Trump will not win if they don't fight back.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And spineless.
2018 I said one of my favorite the favorite one of my favorite segments is
Republicans are too stupid to stop censorship and spineless No, no, no, no, no, don't say ignorant because they don't
luke rudkowski
say ignorant Trump was not ignorant He was Trump and you know and had everyone around him all
of his core support base screaming at him
Hey, please.
We're getting obliterated here.
His core base of supporters, his personalities that kind of brought him into the situation, into the position where he got to be president.
All of those core people were taken out one by one and they were screaming, help, help, help.
And then Donald Trump didn't do nothing.
And now we're here today where Twitter just announced, I don't know if you've seen this, Twitter announced that they banned Donald Trump for life.
tim pool
Yes.
luke rudkowski
Even if he decides to run for President of the United States.
tim pool
Ian, I went to the White House with Bill Ottman.
I'm saying Bill Ottman for the people who don't, you know, because obviously you know who Bill is.
So I went with Bill.
He's the CEO of Mines.
Ian and Bill are... I'm sure there were other co-founders, but you were two of the co-founders for Mines.
Mines, for those that aren't familiar, is a social media platform you can use.
It's actually got tons of functionality.
It's great.
And we went to the social media summit.
Why?
Because the Trump administration knew this was a problem.
I thought it was going to be an actual conversation where I'd be able to go in and see some people in the administration or in government and say, here's what I think the issue is.
Now, I actually said I was asked in an interview.
What are you going there for?
And I said, I think conservatives too often think they're the only ones being censored.
And there are many progressives who are anti-establishment or anti-war who are getting censored too.
That's why it's not about just conservatives.
It's about allowing people the right to speak before it's too late.
Instead, Donald Trump put on what I would call a VIP Trump rally.
Now, mind you, Donald Trump is hilarious.
It really is.
It was a stand-up routine.
It was self-deprecating humor.
It was almost like Jon Stewart kind of comedy.
And I was impressed, and I'm like, well, we're not getting anything done today.
Someone asks a question.
So they're doing Q&A.
And then someone said, will you join, to Trump directly, will you join any other, you know, social media platform?
And Trump goes, which one?
Which one?
And that was it.
He never did.
ian crossland
He has no idea what he was doing.
He doesn't understand technology.
He never talked about fusion power.
He never talked about, he would say we need to ban section 230.
Like he's a moron.
He's not a moron.
He was ignorant of technology, unfortunately.
luke rudkowski
Not really.
I mean, he used Twitter as a bully pulpit.
He used Twitter as a way to speak to the people directly away from the mainstream media.
So you can't say he was totally ignorant of it.
He knew the game.
He played the game very well.
ian crossland
He played it very poorly because he was banned.
luke rudkowski
For himself.
ian crossland
I mean, he just destroyed his legacy.
luke rudkowski
But then when it came to standing up for the people that supported him, let's be honest here, he didn't do anything for them.
ian crossland
He didn't know how.
luke rudkowski
And it wasn't only just tech.
It was also the Second Amendment.
He did nothing in favor of the Second Amendment when he had the House.
He had the Senate.
He could have passed legislation that could have helped the Second Amendment.
He didn't do any of that as well.
tim pool
Well, hold on.
That's the establishment Republican Party.
The first two years Trump was in office, it was Paul Ryan.
The Republicans who are in power are like, here's the way I describe it.
When Trump and Bernie led their siege on the establishment tower, Bernie eventually got bought out and joined the ranks, thinking that was the best way in.
Trump was just banging on the door, screaming.
Once he got in, the establishment Republicans were like, well, we normally don't have to work.
All of a sudden, now we got this guy yelling at us, claiming he's in charge, and now we have to do work.
I retire.
I quit.
I'm out.
I'm not running for re-election.
And they were just bowing out like crazy.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
And then the Democrats came in and won control of the House.
So the Republicans in 2016, 17, and 18, or I should say 2017 and 18 to the end of 2018, they didn't want to do anything and they didn't do anything.
So Trump didn't have them in his corner.
Now that Trump is out and it's back to Biden, the establishment is back in control.
They're going to lock the doors.
Bernie's going to get the boot.
It's not going to happen the way the progressives and the left populists thought it was going to happen.
Censorship is going to get extreme to the point Well, they're already banning progressives.
Tons of progressive YouTube channels got nuked recently.
And I'm sitting here going, listen, I'm not going to rag on these people.
I'm not going to insult them.
I'm not going to mock them and say, told you so.
I'm going to say, welcome to the fight.
Now, can we please get a serious conversation about why you need to be allowed to speak?
Hopefully, now that they're listening, we can have some kind of majority that opposes censorship.
luke rudkowski
Where would that conversation happen when people are being censored for even just trying to have it?
tim pool
And you can't go outside, you can't go to the bar, and you can't have events.
ian crossland
It's so depressing.
You can kind of have a conversation on YouTube as long as you don't insult people.
tim pool
Kind of.
I mean, YouTube is pretty bad in a lot of ways, but we were talking a little bit before the show, it's not as bad as a lot of people think it is.
blaire white
Yeah, it's better than most, you know.
tim pool
Yeah, like YouTube takes intent into question when it comes to hate speech.
Seriously.
blaire white
Yeah.
And Twitter doesn't, Instagram doesn't, none of those do.
There are people that are banned off of everything but YouTube.
Like the people that still have their YouTube but are banned off everything else.
ian crossland
I was thinking maybe the problem with free speech and forcing free speech on these social networks is you want to allow the private networks to maintain control of their terms of service because it becomes kind of authoritarian when you tell them how to run their company.
luke rudkowski
They keep changing their terms of services.
I signed a term of services with the social media companies and they keep changing it.
That's not fair, especially with individuals that put their whole livelihoods, their whole business, their whole salary on social media, and then they just change the rules midway.
ian crossland
And they'll say, by using the service, you would accept it automatically.
Plus the terms will be like 45 pages long, which is like almost impossible for a human
to go through.
tim pool
Why don't we just, I don't know, maybe create something new or treat some of these social
networks like a utility in the sense that there's no banning at all.
If someone goes out in the middle of the street and screams a death threat at somebody else,
the cops will arrest you for that.
You can't do that.
You can't go around screaming, I'm gonna, you know, do this to you or do that to you.
It's illegal!
So, what if there was just a platform that functioned very similarly to if you were walking around outside?
You can buy ad space on it.
It's the certain ad space on the site is controlled by individuals who bought the rights to run ads on it or whatever.
And if, listen, here's the way I put it.
A lot of these advertisers freak out because they're like, I don't want to run ads on Twitter because people on Twitter say mean words.
And I'm like, you put up a billboard in like LA, for instance, what's going to stop some crazy racist guy from standing in front of your billboard screaming and then someone taking a picture and putting it online?
You can't, you can't escape that.
So maybe We need, and honestly I think it's probably, it's kind of, I don't know, maybe a moot point as of now because we've said it so many times.
We need a social media platform that is a utility.
It doesn't have to be Twitter.
And you know what?
Trump could have done it.
That's the big thing.
blaire white
Yeah.
tim pool
Trump could have got on Parler, Gab or Mines.
He could have even made his own broadcast platform where you go to like, you know, Trump's, the word of Trump.com and it gave you his personal Twitter feed.
He could have even done that and then people would have followed.
Trump could have launched his own network.
He could have done everything and he did nothing.
blaire white
Man, even if he would have joined just one of them, whether it be Gab, Mines, one of these other ones, it would send such a massive wave of people to join just to be made aware of it, you know?
And it's like, he never did it.
It's messed up.
ian crossland
Would you suggest using the government to make one then?
Like a socialist type of utility?
tim pool
I don't think that's socialist.
Socialism is owning the means of production.
Publicly owned with a Bill of Rights, the Bill of Rights Guarantee.
So the reason I like the idea of a public utility social platform is because we have the First Amendment.
That means you can go on there and you can say dumb opinions, whether you're left, right, whatever.
And there is speech that is illegal.
And I think for the most part, there are a lot of free speech absolutists who will say, even inciting or threatening is just words, they don't hurt anybody.
Most people right now accept directing someone, instructing them, telling them to do it, or actually doing it themselves, like threatening, you can't do that, that's illegal.
So like I said, if you were walking around New York City screaming, I'm gonna do X to you, I'm gonna do whatever to you, ah!
The cops would come and be like, right this way, buddy.
That's illegal.
That's a threat.
New York, they might just scuttle you along and say, get out of here because they don't want to deal with it.
In Chicago, take it more seriously.
In Chicago, if you threaten someone, like yell it, they very well may arrest you because that's assault according to Chicago law.
We could just do that.
You got a problem with someone?
You don't like their opinions?
Block.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
tim pool
Now I never see you again.
ian crossland
The government could take Mines Code and start it.
Just spin one up.
They could easily do that.
Publicize the hell out of it.
Biden has so much influence, he could just publicize it.
tim pool
They don't want to.
ian crossland
And then make it all about law.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
luke rudkowski
The big corporations would...
I have all the power and say on there too because that's that's the one of the reasons why the government's not doing anything sitting on their butts as people are losing their rights to free speech right now.
And again, you don't need big daddy tech deciding what you can and cannot hear.
Leave it to the law.
We have libel laws, right?
We have laws against threatening other individuals.
Leave it to the law.
We don't need tech oligarchs, unaccountable people deciding yes or no you can and cannot say this.
ian crossland
What do you mean if we, that the big techs would have control on that Because, again, when you look at the government, right?
luke rudkowski
The government has been essentially bought and sold by the special interest, by the billionaire class, by the multinational industrial industries out there that, of course, do the bidding for them.
If you think the U.S.
government represents you, you're fooling yourself.
They don't.
They represent the people that they're friends with, that are super elitist, that are super rich, that cash their pockets with money.
Those are the people they serve.
So if the government creates something, Who do you think is going to get the most prominent voice and more control over everything?
It's going to be them, obviously.
ian crossland
What organization would we use to enforce free speech laws then, if not the government?
luke rudkowski
It's called free speech.
You don't need to enforce free speech.
Again, if you have local jurisdictions like in Chicago, like in New York, they usually handle the situation themselves.
So if you have a jurisdiction, and if you have someone that slandered you or libeled you, Dealeth through that system.
That's that's just the simple way of doing it.
Decentralization, not centralization, is the answer.
tim pool
I'd like to show you guys a study, just in response to what Luke was saying, from 2014.
I will also stress there are rebuttals to this that are more modern.
But this is from the BBC, April 2014 study.
US is an oligarchy, not a democracy.
And the BBC reports, The U.S.
is dominated by a rich and powerful elite, so concludes a recent study by Princeton University Professor Martin Gilens and Northwestern University Professor Benjamin Page.
This is not news, you say?
Perhaps, but the two professors have conducted exhaustive research to try and present data-driven support for this conclusion.
Here's how they explain it.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S.
government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.
In English, the wealthy few move policy while the average American has little power.
They go on to say that they drew this conclusion by reviewing answers to 1,779 survey questions asked between 1981 and 2002 on public policy issues.
They say, quote, a proposed policy change with low support among economically elite Americans, one out of five in favor, is adopted only about 18% of the time.
They write, while a proposed change with high support, four out of five, is adopted about 45% of the time.
On the other hand, when a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and or with organized interests, they generally lose.
Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S.
political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.
They conclude, Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance.
So just regular elections, freedom of speech, well, at the time, I suppose, and association and a widespread, if still contested, franchise.
We believe that if policymaking is dominated by powerful business organizations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America's claim to being a democracy, a democratic society, are seriously threatened.
And I'll just stress, This study made it very obvious what was going to happen next.
They don't want large, powerful majorities forming.
It's hard to defeat.
Now, this study mentioned that if a large majority says, we want this policy, they still tend to lose.
But that still means the powerful elites have to fight against these ideas.
Occupy Wall Street was very popular.
They found a way to fracture it using identity politics.
Well, take away free speech and you don't have to deal with it ever again.
So they're monopolizing the platforms with which we communicate while the governments have stopped us from communicating in person.
ian crossland
If we don't use the government to enforce free speech on the internet, who else will?
tim pool
What do you mean?
We should.
The government should.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's why I'm talking about making a government social network.
I kind of want to delve into Luke's point earlier about decentralizing it.
luke rudkowski
But they won't, because they helped create these monopolies that they're tied into in such ways that they will never uncouple.
tim pool
Let me just repeat.
The point of this study, Ian, to read to you, is that the government does what their lobbyist corporate interests tell them to do.
ian crossland
That's always been the case with the US.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And so why would they do anything different?
Twitter is going to say, hey, whoa, what are you doing there?
Oh, I'm sorry, boss.
ian crossland
I mean, I don't want to just say, I guess the U.S.
government was a militaristic corrupt system from the beginning.
You know, it wasn't a genocidal.
Yeah, it was.
It was a genocidal military takeover of the Native American population.
That's very complicated.
They made a government that was ruled by the powerful elite, these landowners, and they gave very little power to the masses.
tim pool
Bro, you're taking hundreds of years of colonial history and condensing it into like 20.
ian crossland
When they made the government, it was like, we pick who the senators are.
tim pool
That's what I'm talking about, yeah.
was that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was actually a mix. It was modeled very similarly off of
the UK where you have the people's representation and then you have the better men. Yeah. The senators and the report
were appointed, but that actually was a better system.
You know why? Because you would vote for your local representatives. You'd vote at the state level and then
they would appoint federal representatives to go to con
senators, not Congress people. So now because we shifted senatorial elections to the, to the public, people don't
care about voting locally anymore. So now their states are, you
know, in disrepair. And you know, what's crazy is there's this, there's this push now from, uh, some Trump supporters.
Apparently there's like precinct level Republican positions that
are half empty across the country that have powerful control over how the political, how the GOP nominates
people, allocates resources, and they're missing because people
aren't running and they don't know.
There's huge gaps in how the GOP is supposed to be running.
So because of that, because people have ignored local politics, it's created vulnerabilities that can now be exploited by Trump supporters.
You need to pay attention to your local politics.
Most people don't even know who their state senators are, who their state reps are, who their congressperson even is.
blaire white
I feel like it's changed a bit, though, with the pandemic in 2020.
Even I've been way more aware of local politics than ever just because of the pandemic and the lockdowns.
And you start seeing like, oh, Florida's back to real life and I'm not.
I can't even leave my house.
unidentified
Wow.
blaire white
And then it all comes down to local politics.
tim pool
Yep.
Whether or not your state is going to say yes or no.
Apparently Florida is, you know, they've been saying, do your thing.
And then we've seen the collective outrage from the media and the left.
ian crossland
So you mentioned making a utility, an internet website that was a utility social network.
You mentioned decentralizing it and you've mentioned local politics.
So if we made like an internet social network that was decentralized and like LA had its own, the only problem is that wouldn't work to me because when you use social networking, you don't want to just only talk to people in your city.
You want like global connectivity.
So who oversees it?
tim pool
Well, there's several solutions and maybe there have been attempts to pass these laws to stop censorship at the state level.
I think that's the key.
I think, you know, Florida might actually pull this off because DeSantis recently talked about, you know, they're proposing this bill that would fine big tech companies for violating a set of rules.
There you go.
We don't need to rely on Congress or the Senate.
Just have your state do it because they could do it very easily.
If you're in Arizona or Michigan or Wisconsin or Pennsylvania and you've got a Republican-controlled legislature, what's to stop them from passing this law?
Make them do it.
Call them up.
Tell them what you want.
Tell them what you're willing to vote for.
Do that phone campaign.
And if they don't listen, vote for somebody else.
blaire white
I love DeSantis.
I hope he runs for president.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
He might.
I mean, he's really standing up.
ian crossland
What's he doing?
tim pool
Oh, he's opened up Florida.
blaire white
He's opened up Florida and I was there over Christmas break.
It was in Miami and it was just, it was amazing.
It was real life again.
You know, living in LA, it's like, it's not, but I guess LA is real life too.
This lockdown is real life.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But Newsom will shut off your water.
Oh, but they're going to recall that guy.
unidentified
Huh?
blaire white
Like they got, I think they just got enough signatures and I'm like, Oh, Oh my gosh.
lydia smith
I hope you signed Blair.
tim pool
I did sign.
blaire white
I signed months ago.
ian crossland
What does that mean?
Is he out of office officially now or something?
blaire white
No, I think there's a certain amount of signatures that needs to be had and then we can vote on it as a state.
So I don't know if there's a step before that or what but I think we can vote on it soon.
luke rudkowski
It's like a ballot initiative just like they did with marijuana and other laws.
It's decided by popular vote rather than just local government.
That's how Switzerland is also run.
tim pool
Well, let's dive into this story actually and see what's going on with your awful state of California, Blair.
I hate California, sorry.
I lived there.
blaire white
It's beautiful, but it's so ugly.
tim pool
Right.
It's ugly on a personality level.
luke rudkowski
The state had a lot of plastic surgery.
tim pool
Yes.
It's unfortunate, man.
We have this story from FiveThirtyEight.
California's Gavin Newsom will likely face a recall election, but he'll probably survive it.
Who wrote that?
unidentified
538.
ian crossland
Sounds like propaganda.
tim pool
Well I know I was gonna say that because 538 failed miserably in the 2020 election and the 2016 election and they were so mad about it.
ian crossland
What was that one?
tim pool
Well all the polls were historically off by like what was it what was the average like seven points?
It was worse in 2020 than it was in 2016.
My favorite thing about the polls What the New York Times had, safe Democrat, lean Democrat, toss up, lean Republican, safe Republican, and the whole thing skewed Republican.
So the lean Democrat all went Republican, and then the safe Democrat, actually some seats flipped Republican.
That's why they were able to regain a lot of the House.
They were so wrong.
So now, it is true.
Let me read a little bit of the story, just to give you guys context.
They say, California Governor Gavin Newsom has been in office for just two years, but there have already been five failed attempts to force a statewide recall election on whether to remove him from office.
That itself is not unusual.
California has some of the most permissive recall requirements in the country.
But what is unusual is that the sixth attempt, which is currently underway, appears to be gaining some serious traction.
If it makes the ballot, the election would be just the fourth gubernatorial recall election in all of American history.
And two of the previous three governors to face recalls ended up going down in defeat, including California's in 2003, when in the midst of a statewide fiscal crisis, 55% of voters opted to recall Democrat Gray Davis and elected Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger in his place.
That seems like a bad omen for Newsom, until you consider for special circumstances of this recall and the political evolution of California.
Well, I'm not interested in their overall assessment.
The point is, It's everyone else has lost and it's over 1.5 million signatures now to get rid of Newsom.
blaire white
Yeah.
tim pool
So he could be gone.
blaire white
I mean, just what it shows is how angry people are.
I mean, I don't think you can look at what's happening in California, which is we are the most locked down place.
L.A.
specifically is the most locked down.
And yet we're the worst of the cases.
There was a story that the air that people in L.A.
were breathing was it like um polluted with uh from the what's it called when they burn people the crematorium crematoriums yeah really that the air was so polluted because people were dying at such a frequent rate and but what's so crazy is that you know obviously there is a growing movement of people who are angry about the leadership in california but there are still so many people there that think it's like
He's doing a great job, simply because he's Democrat.
And they look at Florida and they look at DeSantis and they're like, oh my god, I can't believe they're fully open.
That's so messed up.
And it's like, but they're not worse off than us.
So what is the logic?
At this point, if you support lockdowns and the way that they've been imposed, I think there's something seriously wrong with you.
tim pool
It's a cult.
blaire white
It really is.
tim pool
is.
When they complain about Trump supporters and they're like, you know I see these posts
on Facebook all the time, they're like, Trump supporters, you're in a cult.
I'm like, you know, I know the people they're referring to.
They're referring to the Q people who believe this crazy nonsense.
I understand why they're saying that.
My response to them is usually like, I hear you, I hear you.
Do you think you're in a cult?
You don't?
Have you considered maybe y'all are crazy?
The right and these really zealous Trump supporters don't have cultural power in the cultural institutions.
And they had very limited political power with Trump as president.
Trump was struggling in a lot of ways to do a lot of things.
He was able to pull off a lot, don't get me wrong.
Right now, the Democrats control every cultural institution and every branch of government.
Well, except for the Supreme Court, but we'll see what happens.
They're fairly pro-establishment.
We'll see how they end up ruling.
blaire white
And look where we're at.
Everyone's still begging for scraps from the government after almost a year in a pandemic where people can't afford food, rent to survive.
And yet, for some reason, some people still just, like, are so much more comfortable with Democratic leadership and they don't get it.
tim pool
It's a cult.
You know, so I'm not saying everybody who voted for a Democrat is a cult, that's ridiculous.
Every Trump supporter wasn't some zealous conspiracy theorist.
It's just that in the cultural institutions, you have substantially more cult-like Democrat people who just would absolutely watch the whole country burn down if it meant they were owning the cons.
You have a similar element among right-wingers for sure, but they don't have any power.
That's why I've never really cared to be like, oh, so that Q guy, he said something dumb on Twitter.
I don't care.
He doesn't control the entirety of the party.
He doesn't control Hollywood or TV shows or digital marketing.
And he's not controlling a branch of government.
Now it's all Democrats.
ian crossland
It's the liberal economic order.
The British and the Americans started it after World War II to basically control the world with military.
So there's like this military, you know, propaganda effort that's controlled by this liberal force that could be economic.
tim pool
I don't think liberal makes them make sense because the specific term is liberal economic order.
I know, but I mean, like call themselves liberal Republicans and Democrats are doing the same thing.
You know, the Republican Party, the Democratic Party.
are working towards the same goal. I think the Republicans are just like a caricature of a villain
where they do literally nothing but obstruct in certain ways to make Democrats angry and
never actually fight for causes that the people on the right actually want. So when Trump came
around and said I'm gonna fight for you they were like finally somebody and then Trump did some
things and ultimately didn't get a lot through because he was obstructed at every turn.
Even his own administration.
Apparently the reason Trump didn't get on Parler or Gab was because of Jared Kushner.
Who was like, don't do it, don't go on, don't do it.
Okay, well now he's gone.
Now he can't say anything.
We've got, in this country, Democrats in states like California, in places like New York, pushing policies and winning elections while people suffer and beg for scraps, like you were mentioning.
And the reason why I say it's a cult is because no matter what happens, they will not let it go.
I had a friend.
Sent them the Time magazine.
You see the Time magazine article about the shadow campaign, Blair?
Yeah.
How much more explicit could they make it when they said a shadow campaign, a conspiracy in the background by an elite cabal of powerful individuals, started in fall of 2019, mind you, which means they were doing it to Bernie Sanders to ensure the proper outcome.
And my friend was like, oh, but they were just fortifying the election.
And I said, you realize the Democratic primary didn't conclude until 2020, which means they were doing it to Bernie Sanders.
And then all of a sudden they were like, yeah, I'm like, Did you notice?
It wasn't about Trump.
Trump was a part of it.
It's about the people getting an actual candidate who represented them.
Unfortunately, Bernie sold out.
He wants to be a millionaire, you know?
blaire white
That's why I feel so disaffected between the left versus right thing now.
At this point, it's if you don't...
At some point, if you don't start seeing that it's the elites versus the people, then I don't really know what's wrong with you, especially the last year.
The last year has revealed so much about just the way the system works, the ways in which it's broken, the ways in which it doesn't just not serve the people, but it actively crushes the people that you have so many people that still vote for that same system.
And what's really scary is that now that Biden's in power, we talked about this earlier, now it's back to sort of the Obama era of like just complete Like not even caring about politics at all.
tim pool
What's the right word like blind?
Ignorance and obedience combined like compliance, but it's but it's not even devotion.
blaire white
It's because they don't they don't actually like Biden.
unidentified
Good point.
blaire white
No one likes but it's not even compliance.
tim pool
It's like it's like servience.
Complacency complacency hold on but it's like a willful.
Disregard of information and willful ignorance to allow Biden to do whatever he wants and turn away and not pay attention anymore.
ian crossland
I think the word is witness.
A blind witness.
blaire white
Because he's a Democrat, so nothing he does is going to be bad.
And everything anyone who's a Republican does is bad.
tim pool
You know what I loved about Obama was when he ran anti-war and all that stuff and I voted for him.
I was all excited.
And then I think it was January 23rd of 2009, I could be getting the date wrong, like only a few days after inauguration, he ordered a drone strike on a village of women and children killing civilians.
And I was just like, I felt like my heart sink, like, he was supposed to say no, he was supposed to say no.
And then I would go to my friends, and all of a sudden all these anti-war activists were just all of a sudden like, I don't know, I don't know what you're talking about, I don't care.
We're gonna go get pizza at the bar and just have a drink and I'm live.
blaire white
It's the same thing now.
The war drums are starting to beat up again with Biden and it's like, where is everyone that cares?
No one?
Okay, no one.
I guess no one.
tim pool
It's like the dominoes are falling down and we're watching it happen and we can't do anything to stop it.
It's just like the whole thing's gone.
luke rudkowski
Well, even if people did rise up or did voice their disgust, you wouldn't know about it because your algorithm is curated.
Your timeline is carefully selected to make sure that you see and have a perception that these elite billionaires want you to see.
And Blair, you made a very good point.
It's something that I've been screaming about for years now, endlessly.
I've been ridiculed and attacked for it, but it's not left versus right.
It's you versus the secret club of billionaires.
And that's exactly what's happening right now.
And these billionaires, They're getting their way, they're getting their power, they're getting their money more than they ever did before because of these lockdowns.
And then we have individuals like Bill Gates that, by the way, just recently became the largest farmland owner in all of the United States, lecturing us about how we need to lockdown more, congratulating China about doing a great job, but also, just as of today, became the biggest shareholder in the Canadian National Railroad.
tim pool
What?
luke rudkowski
A major, yes, a major railroad company that doesn't just provide transportation services for all of Canada, but also along the Mississippi from the north to the south of the United States.
And literally, he's on his way from almost controlling the entire food supply chain from farm to table.
And Bill Gates is buying up more assets, buying up more companies, buying up more land than ever before.
tim pool
Who'd have thought Bill Gates would be the reincarnation of Alexander the Great?
Conquering large swaths of territory around the world.
luke rudkowski
Largest shareholder of the Canadian National Railroad.
tim pool
Could you imagine, sorry, I'm thinking about the legends of Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great riding in on horseback and conquering land and now we have this great warlord conqueror and it's Bill Gates saying, well I recently purchased... In a sweater vest.
luke rudkowski
To add insult to injury.
I mean, this man was described as a ruthless businessman who changed his ways, was going to donate all of his money to charity.
More than doubled his money, by the way.
But he's the one that all the mainstream media guys are going for, for the expert advice about what to do next.
He also pushed the goalpost because a couple months ago he said that these lockdowns, COVID's going to be with us until 2021.
He changed his stance.
Now he's saying 2022.
And of course, who benefits off of these lockdowns?
Billionaires like him.
blaire white
You know what gets me is that like, I feel like the left is always talking about class consciousness and it's like, I'm down.
To top that conversation, but it's like, so y'all support these lockdowns and you don't see how the rich is getting richer and you're getting poorer.
ian crossland
I just saw an article, the top hundred billionaires, most wealthy, their wealth has increased by 40% since the lockdown.
tim pool
Absolutely.
You know, what's funny is there's, we did mention this before, but I love this moment where Tucker Carlson was doing his handoff with Sean Hannity and Tucker was talking about how these massive corporations value is skyrocketing amid this lockdown.
Basically saying how it's the largest transfer of wealth from the working class to the wealthy in the history of humanity.
And then when he's doing the handoff, Hannity goes, if a business provides a service and makes money, well then, good for them, they're allowed to do it.
And Tucker's response was the Tucker face, where he's like, looking like, huh?
Labrador.
Yeah, the Labrador, like, what?
I love that interaction.
How is it that Tucker Carlson had this evolution on populism and the elites versus the people?
And it's basically him.
The rest of cable TV and everybody are still very much pro-establishment.
luke rudkowski
Well, that's why they're trying to counsel him so much.
The stuff that he talks about is very important.
I don't always agree with him, but he does it from an honest perspective.
He does it from an honest way.
And he points out how it's not private enterprise.
These are not businesses engaging in the free market.
These are quasi extensions of the government working with government hand-in-hand pushing and making sure the game is rigged against everyone else so they get their way.
And they've been getting their way non-stop.
blaire white
And it's so sad how no one thinks to take it that far in their mind when they're looking around at them and they're seeing all of their fellow citizens living like dogs on their knees, I will swore.
And it's so frustrating how they use these tools of pitting us against each other.
And so before anyone would start to think about how maybe all of this is a ploy to crush the poor and make the rich richer, They'll look at someone with the mask slightly beneath their nose in a grocery store and have a psychotic meltdown and convince themselves that that one individual who's not wearing the mask perfectly to how they think it should go is the reason why we're in this mess.
I see it all the time.
tim pool
It's a cult and they sell this so that, you know, this is the space helmet that I bought.
And, you know, I don't like being mean to people.
The guy who made this seems like a nice guy.
It's a really interesting idea.
But I swear to God, if you're going to be wearing this space helmet because of this strange cult-like behavior around masks, we got problems, man.
You know what?
I am partly grateful to everything that's happened over the past year, I suppose, in at least one way.
It's not always bad.
It's kind of...
It's almost like, you know how when they're doing these medical procedures for cancer, they'll inject your bloodstream with dye?
Or like, they'll make you drink it, right?
Is that what they do?
lydia smith
They'll make you drink dye.
tim pool
Then they can take the scanning machine or whatever it is and see all your veins light up.
They basically did that with dumb people.
So now when you see people walking around with space helmets and four masks, you're like, okay, this person doesn't think critically.
They don't do any investigation.
I understand wearing a mask.
The logic is very, very simple, so I have no problem wearing it.
I do think it's absurd when they're like, wear a mask in your own home.
I'm like, what?
Wear a mask in your own home and between bites.
It's like, okay, you gotta chill there.
luke rudkowski
Or like in California, they were telling you, literally, take a bite, put your mask back on when you're in the restaurant.
tim pool
And Gavin Newsom's not doing a mask at all!
blaire white
That's not just California now, by the way.
I was on a plane, I've had two connecting flights here, and on both of those planes, over the flight attendant speaker, they were saying, Even when you're chewing, you have to put it up when you chew, and then swallow, take it off, take a bite, chew with it on.
It's crazy.
luke rudkowski
This is, of course, as the CDC just ruled recently, that two masks are recommended.
After Fauci, a couple days ago, said there's no evidence supporting that, now Fauci again flip-flops saying, yes, actually now wear two masks, when in the beginning he said don't wear any masks at all.
Again, total constant flip-flopping, and you call them up, you call these These lying... You have it upside down.
ian crossland
Do you want a second one?
luke rudkowski
It looks like the thing you take a crap in at the hospital.
tim pool
The funny thing about it is, what if you're wearing this and you sneeze?
That's what everyone says.
You just spray the whole plastic.
blaire white
Have you ever seen a person sneeze in their mask?
I've seen it a couple times in public.
It's so gross.
tim pool
Do you see Joe Biden take his mask off to cough in his hand and then put the mask back on?
Yeah, yeah, he did it.
It's great.
Yeah, but no, we're actually here right now.
We have this from the NPR.
CDC says double masking offers more protection against the coronavirus.
What is wrong with people?
ian crossland
Obviously, but what percent?
6% more?
tim pool
It is.
Yeah, it's like 6%.
ian crossland
It's diminishing returns.
At what point are you going to say enough?
Because a third mask will give you another 0.7% increase.
tim pool
Apparently, and I don't know if this is true, but I was reading an article about this.
And they said the study found, or a study found, that after like seven masks, it starts becoming detrimental.
blaire white
Seven?
lydia smith
You can't breathe.
Yeah, seven.
blaire white
Like, can we stop pretending like we can breathe in the mask?
That's my whole thing.
It's like, why is everyone lying?
Because if I walk even more than three feet in a mask, I'm hyperventilating.
I do have asthma as well.
I know everyone gets so mad when you say that, but like, I can't breathe in a mask.
tim pool
Well, doesn't that mean you're exempt and you don't gotta wear it?
blaire white
I don't think so.
I don't think asthma is an exemption, but I mean, I don't, I don't want to, Pain or wrong impression to me. I will wear a mask
especially in a public business because at the end of the day
I just won't go in the business if I don't want to wear a mask. I'd right I comply with that kind of stuff
Well, it gets a different level when it's like you're outside walking your dog and you post a snapchat and all
the replies are like Why are you wearing it?
Curse word mass like you it's like you're killing grandma It's like no one's near me.
I'm with my dog and I remember at the start of the pandemic I had this experience.
I tweeted about it where a cop literally approached me to tell me to put a mask on and he broke the six feet and he didn't have a mask on.
tim pool
That's why I'm going to unironically wear this.
blaire white
You might as well.
tim pool
No, here's what I'm going to do.
The reason I bought these, I bought two of them, I bought them for a reason.
They're great.
Right.
You have a super mask.
They're great, but also it gives me the moral authority to shame everyone around me, right?
You have a supermass and and what's funny is they're not gonna know what I'm saying because you can barely talk in
these things But I also purposefully muffle my voice. So I'm looking at
one And they're gonna be like, I don't know why you're yelling
at me and then I'll I'll take off ago You're only wearing a cloth mask
YOU'RE KILLING GRANDMA!
BUY YOUR PLASTIC SPACE HELMET NOW, OTHERWISE, YOU EVIL FASCIST!
blaire white
That's what they all sound like to me anyways, just muffled like the teacher from Charlie Brown.
Yeah, basically.
In LA, there's this area where I go hiking all the time called Runyon Canyon and it's outdoors.
No one has to get anywhere near you.
You're literally on a mountain, okay?
And the city has what I call green jackets, which is guys in green jackets at the entrance that will yell at you to put a mask on.
I call them green jackets.
I just walk past them.
They'll literally yell stuff and I'll just walk past.
Maybe I'll wave.
Like, I just don't care.
It's like, I'm not gonna wear one outside when I'm exercising and there's already dust coming up from... It's like, no.
tim pool
You need that oxygen.
I was in a forest a few months ago.
Literally in the forest, okay?
And I saw... It's a path.
There's like a path, right?
So people are riding bikes.
People wearing masks.
And I'm like, dude, you not only are nowhere near any humans, you are so far from humans, you risk dying if you make a wrong turn.
I think you're okay to not wear... Look.
I understand stores.
I understand you go to a business.
But I'll tell you, if you're in the woods, I think you're okay.
luke rudkowski
My favorite, what I personally saw in New Hampshire, was someone riding a motorcycle without a helmet, but with a mask.
And when you have individuals like that, that's when I knew.
Seeing that, I'm like, we're screwed.
But the first realization with this whole coronavirus, when I knew we were screwed, was when the government was telling everyone, Don't wear a mask.
It's fine.
Don't get them.
And then when they told everyone, no, no, no, I will actually wear a mask.
And there wasn't any repercussions.
There wasn't any kind of backlash.
I knew we were in trouble.
So this is the important thing here.
The government could lie to you as much as they want.
But if you lie to the government in the United Kingdom, they just put in new security laws that you will face 10 years in jail if you lie to the government about your whereabouts.
A $10,000 fine for leaving your quarantine.
And if you're entering the United Kingdom, you now have to buy a quarantine package that is $2,400, which includes a 10-day hotel stay and COVID tests.
So you have to pay this out of pocket if you want to visit the United Kingdom.
tim pool
You know, honestly, I will say one thing.
Double masking, the way they describe it, makes sense for one simple reason.
If you're going to wear a mask, and I do, like we go to the restaurant, we just went out, we go shopping, you wear a mask when you go in.
And I understand the point, you know, people don't want to get sick.
Those things get really nasty.
People don't wash their masks.
lydia smith
True.
tim pool
So they're wearing them all day, every day for months and it's becoming grimy and infested.
They're saying wear a disposable mask and then put your other mask over it.
I wonder if the real issue is they're like, dude, these people are walking around with fungus rags on their faces.
blaire white
Right.
tim pool
Maybe that we should tell them to put a disposable underneath it, because now they do.
And it's like, if you're not going to wear your mask, that I kind of get.
blaire white
Yeah.
I've even gotten to the point where sometimes it's like, if I have to go somewhere, I'll just throw one on and like, it's dirty.
And I know it's dirty.
And I take the L and it's disgusting.
tim pool
And there are masks on the ground.
ian crossland
It really is bad for you.
It's like wearing dirty bandages.
blaire white
I did something really bad one time.
I had to go into a Target and it was an emergency, like I had to go in the Target, okay?
I was in the parking garage, I dropped my mask on the ground in the parking garage, put it on my face, and then I tasted the ground of the parking garage.
tim pool
It was disgusting.
I think we gotta mandate these dome helmets.
luke rudkowski
Well this is the thing, the masks work so well, why haven't they worked?
tim pool
No, I disagree with that one, though.
I disagree.
Yeah, because I've heard people say, if the masks work so well, why aren't they working?
Well, we have no metric by which to gauge.
luke rudkowski
We saw some statistics, and we see where there's mask mandates implemented, where they're not implemented.
And we saw, ever since the beginning of the mask mandates, a lot of the counties and districts that did implement the mandates, their cases, their numbers went up.
A lot of places like Florida, this is the comparative that happened because NBC News launched an attack on a grocery store in Florida.
And then it was a vicious attack.
They were like, look at these grandmas!
They're not wearing any masks!
They're in a supermarket!
They're horrible human beings!
A whole huge segment on the Today Show shaming them.
And then someone, I forgot his name, he works for an independent media organization, and and he he put out a sign saying look at the the number of cases here in this particular county in florida compared to of course los angeles uh in the los angeles county i forgot which one uh but also similar populations and then he it was like look at the numbers mask mandate here no mask mandate here the the the county in california huge spikes florida
Leveled out.
Again, it could be a correlation.
It's a different place.
Yes, it's not exact, but it might be worth investigating.
That's all I'm saying.
blaire white
But isn't there really high compliance statistics with masks?
Aren't like most people in general wearing masks?
luke rudkowski
Majority of people are wearing masks.
tim pool
You'd have to have a group of like a hundred people not wear masks and another group of a hundred wear masks in the exact same place going to the exact same businesses and then track it to see if there's a... We haven't done that yet.
ian crossland
And you gotta know what they had before they got selected, what they were doing, were they exposed.
tim pool
Food they're eating, exercise, all that stuff's got to be controlled for.
So New York, LA, Florida, all very different places.
luke rudkowski
But we have to understand.
tim pool
I think it's fair to be critical, don't get me wrong.
luke rudkowski
We should be critical because there is some data actually showing that masks actually do help with influenzas, especially in Asian countries, especially with how they've been utilized and used.
But this is not the flu.
This is something else.
This is something where we had a 117-year-old nun, one of the oldest people in the world, have this, not even know she had it, while other people are getting absolutely devastated and wrecked by this.
tim pool
There's fingers falling off.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
So I'm like, what?
Yeah, there's a story that came out.
A woman's fingers fell off.
So some people, remember that basketball player who collapsed on the court?
He recovered from COVID and then one day he was playing and then he just fell down.
It does impact people like this because it affects their circulation.
luke rudkowski
I've talked to a lot of doctors and nurses.
A lot of them don't know what's going on.
They're so confused.
They're so perplexed.
I mean, I see you nodding your head there, Lydia, because you're in this profession.
We don't know what's going on here.
So implementing these hard rules and stopping any discourse from happening is hurting us.
ian crossland
I've had friends that died of cancer.
That's what chemo does.
But what happened was they got diagnosed they went into the hospital started getting these these crazy chemical things
to try and kill stuff They're gonna we're gonna kill it
We're gonna find it and kill it and kill a bunch of other stuff in your body while we do it
Collateral damage and their bodies started getting devastated and then they died
They died from cancer. They died from chemo and they call it cancer death. Yes, but
tim pool
It's not a secret that when people get cancer, they're on the track to die. It's
And chemo can actually kill them, but it could also save them.
ian crossland
That's the theory.
But these people get the chemo and it's so hard on the body that they end up dying, but they call it a cancer death.
So it's a similar thing with COVID.
Yeah, people's fingers are falling off, but that doesn't mean that COVID made their fingers fall off.
tim pool
But in this story, that's literally the story.
That's what it is.
ian crossland
Well, that's how the story was written.
tim pool
And you know what?
ian crossland
Let's go into the story, then.
I'd love to hear about it.
tim pool
Okay, come on, man.
ian crossland
That's crazy.
No, no, I'm serious, actually.
tim pool
That sounds crazy.
ian crossland
Fingers?
Come on.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you know what COVID toes is?
When people get bad circulation from COVID, then the extremities, your fingers and your toes start getting... But are they obese?
I think this person was elderly, actually.
The point is, not everybody's affected the same way.
And it has been, I think, to Luke's point about people being scared or confused, It's new.
We've not experienced it, and it seems to be very serious, and people are kind of freaked out about it.
lydia smith
That's true.
tim pool
So I say this.
The masks, to me, makes total sense.
Now when they say two masks, I'm like, it's like a 6% increase according to these studies.
Look, man, wearing a mask at a store makes sense in public places, but confining people to their homes is clearly the data shown that doesn't work because people then spread it to their family members.
So letting people go outside, so this is one of the reasons why they're starting to reopen, is like even in California they realized, well that may be Newsom panicking because they're gonna recall him, but they realized when people go outside these businesses can enforce social distancing and mask wearing.
When people are going inside they'll go out and interact publicly at stores or Walmart and then bring it back and infect their whole families.
unidentified
Yes.
blaire white
And also, it's like you're making laws and mandates that go against fundamental aspects of human nature.
Like humans need community.
They need to be around each other.
They need, God forbid, sunshine every once in a while.
So what you're doing is you're creating an underground, and I'll talk about this.
Maybe people don't know this.
In LA, there is such a huge underground party scene right now, especially in the LGBT community.
warehouses in LA just full of people partying. These are the same people that
are online you know yeah that are super lived out about COVID and super anal
about it but that's what's happening is the government is the
Lockouts are so harsh that it's causing the opposite effect.
So instead of going to an outdoor restaurant where the tables are six feet and you wear
a mask when you walk to your table, whatever, people are like, okay, I can't even do that,
but I need to be around people.
They end up going to a party.
tim pool
You know, you know, it's funny is every high school parties is illegal, right?
Every teenager, under the age of 21, partying and getting drunk, they know what happens when the cops show up.
They're like, cheese it!
And everyone's running random directions, and like, the cops are coming in, and you're like, oh no!
And they're out the back door.
So now, all they're doing is the same thing.
It's like, so now they're 24 and they're doing it, but they're accustomed to this.
I mean, I don't know about most of you listening, but when I was a teenager, we would show up to some random house party.
You're in the kitchen.
You've got a 40, a King Cobra, whatever costs you a buck.
And then all of a sudden you hear like, someone runs in like, dude, dude, cops are pulling up.
And then everyone runs for it.
blaire white
And you're hopping the fence to get out.
unidentified
Cause you're not, you can't be drinking.
tim pool
And then like the person who owns it, the cops yell at them, they'll get a ticket or something.
So now what's happening?
I've heard stories.
I was in New Jersey.
These women were having a warehouse party and they were serving food and gambling.
So now it's like, now not only are they having this close quarters, there's no food sanitation, there's no regulation and they're gambling along with it because prohibition doesn't work.
It just doesn't work.
blaire white
Lockdowns don't work.
It's basically prohibition of life.
It's like, don't live your life.
ian crossland
They found COVID in ice cream in China.
I don't know if you heard about that.
luke rudkowski
Allegedly.
We also have to understand a lot of the data that we're getting from these quote experts and medical professionals flip-flops every week.
So we don't know if they're telling the truth or not because they send out so many mixed messages.
They send out things saying no airborne transmission.
Now there is airborne transmission.
We don't know what's going on here and the medical community is left stunned.
And again, as you said, prohibition never works and it never has.
has worked right nothing the government tries to stop and there have even been
some scientific studies showing that if you make people coalesce only in Walmart
only in Target that that's going to actually spread the virus more if people
are only told to go to one place and they only go to that one place yes so
so there's there's data suggesting that again a lot of uncertainties we don't
tim pool
know what's going on I'll tell you my the biggest issue I have with this is
the transfer of wealth that so I understand you know centralizing Walmart
target and everything you know and people are gonna get sick.
The problem is, they just did, what, $1.9 trillion in stimulus?
So they're going to give people $1,400, I guess.
It's going to be means-tested.
That money's going to go to Walmart.
That money's going to go to Amazon.
It's going to go to Target.
It's not going to go to Mom and Pop's, you know, barber shop, Mom and Pop's, computer repair, whatever.
Small business has been gutted and eviscerated.
And I think if you look at everything they're doing, Why charge someone two grand for this quarantine specialty kit?
I'll tell you one thing.
2.4.
2.4 thousand.
I can only tell you the simple solution.
They're trying to prevent COVID.
I can say one of the side effects of everything they're doing, stopping people from traveling around the world or locally, stopping people from buying things, stopping people from going out and servicing bars and restaurants, ultimately reducing the amount that is being consumed, Reducing the amount of carbon emissions.
And the New York Times wrote the story a while ago, the earth is healing because of the lockdown.
That was early on when it was 15 days until the spread.
We're still slowing the spread a year later, I suppose.
But it seems like whether it's intended or not, they can say it's for all these things.
The one thing that's really happening is a great reset.
unidentified
Yep.
blaire white
And it's blatant, too, which blows my mind when people, again, get so caught up in the ways that we've been pit against each other.
It's like, we're in this because this one person I know doesn't like to wear a mask.
We're in this because you're being selfish and you went to a party because you were depressed for six months in your apartment.
You just had to see someone.
No, like your neighbor is not the enemy at all.
tim pool
Well, according to Disney, I guess it is, because they got mad when Gina Carano called that out.
unidentified
Right.
blaire white
And maybe your neighbor is your enemy if they, you know, plow your snow or whatever.
tim pool
But yeah, seriously, for those that don't know the context, some L.A.
Times columnist was freaking out because her Trump supporting neighbors politely plowed her driveway.
It's the end of the world, my friends.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's the it's modern politics.
ian crossland
I'm like muting myself right now because of the stuff that I want to say I can't say on YouTube.
tim pool
Well, we'll save it for the members-only segment.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Where we're more free to say what we want.
blaire white
Yeah, I want to hear that.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm excited.
That's the reality.
It's all about COVID for the most part.
There's a simple breakdown for people who always get mad when they're like, why won't you guys say what you need to say?
I'll make it simple.
We can sacrifice the 99 things we say to you every night for one thing we can say on TimCast.com.
ian crossland
It's not even that I want to say claims about what I think, about if it's real or if it's not.
I just, I want to postulate that maybe it's, you know, there's something wrong here.
And even postulating is like treading on dangerous water when it comes to defying the World Health Organization.
blaire white
Do you see how sick that is that we can't just speak freely?
I've stopped myself from saying several things on here.
And this is, you know, in a sphere of the internet that is the most open about this kind of thing, and yet we still can't say exactly what we feel.
When I'm, you know, drunk with my friends on my balcony, really talking about this stuff, I'm not saying the stuff I'm saying here.
You know what I mean?
Oh yeah.
tim pool
So you're lying about everything.
blaire white
I'm wearing a mask.
I'm dulling it down.
I'm wearing a mask.
tim pool
So we'll just go ham with it.
Well, I'll tell you this.
There's limits.
I mean, this whole show, we've been talking about censorship and repression of speech and everything like that.
And so this is the conversation I've had with a lot of people going back several years when there's like a certain name I can't say.
And people are like, stop being weak and just say the name.
And I'm like, and then I will never be able to speak to you about anything.
There's a lot of important things to talk about so we be careful about some things and that's why I was like we got
to Start our own our own platform that if we get banned on
here at least we can say whatever we want on you know Got private website
Fortunately, well, I should say there's goodness and bad news
The goodness is the platform exists we can go at Tim cast calm and say this stuff
But still the audience there is a microscopic fraction, right? Oh the people who watch this show, of course
luke rudkowski
It's absolutely ridiculous that we have to tiptoe, meanwhile the mainstream media gets to say whatever they want.
They get to whatever they want, no accountability, they get to lie to you, they get to tell you there's weapons of mass destruction, they get to tell you not to wear masks, then to wear masks, they get to flip-flop and lie and protect the special interests, work for powers that be.
And yet, they don't get fact-checked.
And yet, they don't get corrected.
Yet, they don't face any ramifications, any consequences for anything that they do.
They get to eat human brain.
tim pool
Reza Aslan.
Literally ate human brain on TV.
lydia smith
It's true.
tim pool
Did you know that?
blaire white
Nope.
No, I thought you were making some kind of joke.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
CNN host.
I think he went, we talked about it before, he went nuts.
luke rudkowski
The video's on YouTube.
blaire white
How did he get hold of a human brain?
tim pool
It was a sect of these these like Hindu zealots and he was I guess he was like sitting down as a show about religions and they took a piece of brain and they and they they cooked it they charred it and then gave it to him and he ate it.
blaire white
But where did the brain come from?
Did they kill someone?
tim pool
I don't know.
A cadaver, maybe?
And he literally ate it on TV, and I think the dude went nuts.
blaire white
I think it made him... Well, yeah, you're not supposed to do that the same way you can't feed a cow a cow.
tim pool
But I don't think he got mad human brain disease.
I think he got PTSD from it.
I think he was traumatized.
blaire white
How could you not be?
tim pool
He could never come back.
He's a cannibal.
Reza Aslan is a cannibal.
He is a cannibal.
blaire white
Yeah, that's one of those lines, like, of humanity that once you cross that, it's like, you're probably not the same person.
tim pool
I know, I know somebody who's friends with him, right?
And I was talking about this and I said, dude's a cannibal.
And they were like, he is not a cannibal.
And I was like, did he eat human?
He ate, he ate some brain from a human.
And I said, so if there's a dude and he takes a child into a room and abuses him, would you not say he's a diddler?
It was only one kid and they were like, oh no, I'm okay.
He ate human one time, he's a cannibal.
blaire white
It only takes one time.
ian crossland
But he's not, he doesn't seek out human and consume it on like day to day.
He's not like an active cannibal.
He practiced cannibalism.
He's not an active cannibal.
tim pool
He's a cannibal.
If a man was sitting down with a group of people and they said, take this knife and kill that person and he did, would you call him a murderer?
Yeah, there's one way to say it.
ian crossland
He murdered someone in the past.
It doesn't mean that he's always a murderer.
Well, there's different ways to look at it, you know?
Once you're let out of prison, you can say they're an ex-con.
They're no longer a convict.
They committed the crime in the past.
They're no longer a crime committer.
tim pool
They're a convict.
ian crossland
Well, for the next convict when they leave prison.
tim pool
It's semantic.
It means the same thing.
ian crossland
It is semantic.
blaire white
He's still disgusting.
ian crossland
He's a cannibal.
To say he is still a cannibal, I think, can drive him insane.
If he's thinking, like, I'm a cannibal, I can never shape... But, like, yeah, man, you ate it in the past.
tim pool
He ate a human.
ian crossland
Don't eat it in the future.
tim pool
I guess you could say former cannibal.
blaire white
It might have gave him mental problems because you can't feed a cow a cow.
You can't feed a monkey a monkey.
It's just one of those things about life that once you cross that... What is it called?
tim pool
Encephalitis?
ian crossland
I think it's prions.
Aren't they prions?
blaire white
Those things?
It's not good.
Whatever it is, it's not good.
ian crossland
Let's read about prions.
lydia smith
It's a bridge too far.
tim pool
Is it?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Maybe it's not encephalitis.
I don't know.
lydia smith
It is not encephalitis.
Sorry.
tim pool
You get the shakes.
What's that movie?
Is it the Book of Eli?
Book of Eli.
You ever see that movie?
It was awesome.
ian crossland
This year says a prion is a misfolded protein with the ability to transmit their misfolded shape onto normal variants.
tim pool
He doesn't have that.
Because you die from that.
But I think he was, he got PTSD from it.
But anyway, the main point is, because I'm always willing to talk about CNN hosts eating brain.
The main point is, they aired this.
luke rudkowski
It's on YouTube.
YouTube allows this to be on their platform.
blaire white
Yeah, and you know, that's really obscene.
I mean, of all the things that should or shouldn't be censored or shown on TV, that's obscene.
tim pool
Yeah, a guy eating people.
blaire white
That's insane.
unidentified
You know, we got problems.
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
That's promoted by YouTube.
That's in the algorithm.
You look up any kind of news event, you look up... No, no, no.
tim pool
I don't think it's promoted.
I think someone... No, no, no.
luke rudkowski
It is promoted because when you look at similar topics with alternative media, it's suppressed.
So when you have information that's suppressed from independent creators and promoted by, of course, mainline institutions that are allowed to do whatever they want, that's promotion.
I'm sorry, the mainstream media has a rigged Oh, I'm sorry.
tim pool
It's the New York Post.
1.5 million views.
CNN host Reza Aslan eats human brains while profiling Hindu Aghori cannibals.
luke rudkowski
A few years ago, I remember playing the CNN clip on YouTube, and of course it prominently came up.
tim pool
It's like high resolution, too.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you look up any relevant news event, never will independent media come up.
Never.
Even though they were on the ground, even though they got original coverage, even though they got actual reporting on this topic on the ground, independent media is never going to come up.
It's always going to be CNN, even just stealing independent reporters' footage like they did to me.
They did this to me a couple of times, and it's so frustrating because I used to be on the ground reporting live.
Mainstream media just stole my stuff.
And then in the search algorithms, in the play next, it was always them.
tim pool
I'll just hear it.
luke rudkowski
They even took my video and like, screwed me over.
tim pool
No, no.
So this is a funny story.
Just I'll mention it real quick.
Al Jazeera reuploaded Luke's video and then got his video removed.
luke rudkowski
Yes.
And then YouTube took away my monetization from that video.
And then for three months, didn't Allow me to even have that video.
Yeah.
Totally stop the views.
And then, and then there was no way there's no accountability.
There was no way to fix that.
CNN also did a similar thing.
They went after one of my live streams.
It was, it was, I believe the not, not the inauguration, but the, uh, the, the, the speech of the union state of the union addressed by the president.
I was playing that.
CNN said it was theirs.
Shut me down for a month.
Couldn't live stream, uh, based off of fake, uh, strike that didn't have any marriage.
tim pool
I got it.
I got to let you in on a secret.
This is actually the fault of you.
luke rudkowski
Yes, of course.
tim pool
No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
If you want your channel to appear in the authoritative news, you actually just have to fill out a form on Google News, and it's not particularly difficult.
No one knows this, though.
So I've actually talked to Google, because, you know, we're working on setting up these various sites, and they said, you go to Google News, You apply, you fill out the form, you link to your website,
and then they include you in their list.
So, so when you search for news and you get all these approved sources, it's because they got
their names added to the list. Now, don't get me wrong, Google would probably be like, this guy?
Get out of here. He was the guy who was yelling at Eric Schmidt. I'm not going to put his
luke rudkowski
organization. I didn't yell. I asked him a very pointed, logical question that was needed to be
asked to him at that moment at that time. And I was being respectful.
tim pool
He's former CEO of Google?
luke rudkowski
I told him not to curse, yes.
Former head of Alphabet and Google and now he's working with the Pentagon working on the technological advancements of the military.
So Bilderberg member as well, a lot of secret societies that he's also connected to, but that's a whole other side thing.
But yet again, I just asked him a legitimate question that deserved to be asked.
tim pool
How can the bear?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I mean that's what a journalist is supposed to do.
I face the repercussions for it.
tim pool
Let's talk about Project Veritas.
So, actually, I wonder if I have an article.
I think I did.
luke rudkowski
As you look for the article, it's important to note a lot of people got hit today.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Del Bigtree, James O'Keefe, Project Veritas, There's other reports of Tom McDonald having some of his videos taken down from Spotify and Apple Music.
I think they're back up now.
But also other individuals like Immortal Technique and RA the Rugged Man had their video flagged.
And because it was supposedly election disinformation, their music video wasn't even about the election.
tim pool
No, it was just politics.
It was just political history.
luke rudkowski
A lot of things were about the CIA, but that's a whole other side topic.
But they said it was election disinformation, and then they screwed it over.
tim pool
I've got important breaking news.
Yes.
Project Veritas is not permanently banned from Twitter.
unidentified
Oh, good.
blaire white
That's good.
tim pool
So CNN is wrong, as far as I know.
So I know James O'Keefe.
luke rudkowski
CNN's wrong?
tim pool
I know James O'Keefe, and we've had him on the show before, and I think he's a cool dude, I think he's a good dude, I think he does great work.
Apparently, he's not permanently banned.
They suspended his account because they wanted a certain, you know, you have to remove a certain tweet.
The tweet in question is, he confronted a Facebook employee, like any other news organization would do.
They had one of their employees saying, like, hey, can you answer these questions?
And the guy's like, get out of here!
It was in front of his house.
Now when I saw that, I was like, oh, but they were at his house.
James quickly in his video points out, BBC does it, Fox News does it, CNN does it, it is a normal thing where they go to people's houses and they ask them questions and they do the exact same thing.
And so he says in this video, they will not be taking it down because they will not set themselves to a lower standard than any other news organization.
They're going to operate much the same way as anyone else would.
So they appealed it.
Apparently because they appealed the decision Twitter now says the account is suspended my understanding is it's not
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
permanent But CNN claims it is so I wonder if maybe it really is I
mean I have to imagine They say they say this look this Twitter permanently banned
an account on Thursday belonging to project Veritas They say the decision followed what a Twitter spokesperson
described a CNN business as repeated violations of the platform's policies
prohibiting sharing or threats of sharing other people's private information
Twitter declined to say what specific tweets may have been may have triggered the enforcement action
But in a post on project Veritas public telegram channel Thursday afternoon
The group said the suspension occurred after it published a video in which project Veritas
Accosted I'm sir. I'm certain project Veritas didn't say they accosted anybody
Facebook VP of Integrity at his home.
They say Twitter also confirmed that O'Keefe's personal account had been locked temporarily for violating the same policy and that O'Keefe would be required to remove the violative content before regaining permission to tweet.
In an email statement to CNN Business, O'Keefe again said it was false that the video contained private information and claims Twitter told the group it could have its account reinstated if it deleted the tweet containing the video.
So it's interesting that See, Twitter has refused, like, declined to say what the
reason was.
Veritas said, no, no, no, it's not permanently banned, but CNN still runs the headline that it is permanently banned.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see if...
blaire white
Have to wait if they come back.
luke rudkowski
By the way, this is the same CNN that showed up at a memer's house.
Someone who made memes at their house.
Was it also them or was it another organization that threatened to dox them unless they take down the meme?
That was CNN.
I mean, that's the same news organization that's talking about accosting other individuals.
I mean, you gotta be kidding me.
I mean, the layers of hypocrisy are insane.
tim pool
Didn't they go to that old lady's house because she was sharing Russian memes or whatever?
She was like a member of a page that the Russians were running.
So they like show up at her house and she's like, what?
What are you talking about?
And they're like, ma'am, you're supporting Russian propaganda.
And it's like old lady.
And she's like, what?
And she goes in her house and like ignores them.
Um, they get crazy.
ian crossland
So just to clarify, do I haven't watched enough news to know, but do they go to someone's house, stand outside, get a full video shot of the house.
So it's like, but they blur out the address.
tim pool
Nope.
ian crossland
They'll show the address online.
So that's doxing.
tim pool
Yep.
blaire white
Yeah, I've seen that a lot.
ian crossland
That's illegal, right?
tim pool
In Sweden, they hacked Discus, a commenting system.
Oh my gosh, disgusting.
And then they doxed anonymous commenters and showed up to their houses filming.
Is that illegal?
ian crossland
It's insane.
To publish someone's private information?
tim pool
No, absolutely not.
blaire white
No, because it's technically public information.
It has to be accompanied with a threat or something like that.
But if it's just that, because I've been doxed Five, six times?
And you can't really do anything unless it's accompanied with, this is the person's address and people should go.
ian crossland
But does Twitter have no doxing in their terms of service?
tim pool
You're not allowed to dox.
Yeah, private information.
ian crossland
So they consider it doxing.
tim pool
But James didn't include any private information.
ian crossland
I didn't see any address.
I didn't see license plates.
tim pool
It was actually blurred.
ian crossland
I saw cars and they were blurred license plates.
tim pool
Everything was blurred.
blaire white
I mean, it doesn't even matter because the real point is, much like Gina we were talking about earlier, it's just about anyone who's defiant, they're gonna try to crush you.
So the fact that they're not already banned actually amazes me.
tim pool
Well, this is what's funny.
They're going after Tucker Carlson because he made comments about George Floyd.
And I did a video about this earlier.
Look, Veritas, there was no large uprising where they were like, we must ban James O'Keefe.
He just got quietly suspended really, really quickly.
The reason is, James O'Keefe is an actual threat to them because he actually produces video content without his opinion in it.
He might editorialize, he might, you know, he reads the copy and he's the one doing the voiceover, but when they show you a video of a VP of Facebook saying things, that's not an opinion.
That's the person actually saying it.
I mean, it might be the VP's opinion or the employee's opinion, but it's not Veritas's opinion.
Tucker Carlson is an opinion guy.
He's an excellent boogeyman for the left.
So they can go, oh no, look at Tucker saying these things.
Everyone quit, donate, give me money and subscribe to my Patreon so that we can complain about Tucker.
And then CNN's Fox News review show is like, I can't believe Tucker would say that.
They don't want Tucker banned.
They need him.
He's a boogeyman.
Veritas, on the other hand, they can't boogeyman him.
They try, they definitely do.
But they can't show you what he's actually doing.
Such a good point.
With Tucker, they show clips from his show, and they're like, look at that opinion!
He's terrible.
What are you gonna do?
Tucker's allowed to have an opinion.
It could be a dumb opinion, you don't gotta like it, but it's very different.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They wanna keep Tucker around, in my opinion, because he's a pressure-release valve for the populist right, as is a show like this, in my opinion.
unidentified
True.
tim pool
Not everybody on the populist right, because we did rag on Trump quite a bit, and we do rag on Republicans, but it still functions as, in essence, a pressure-release valve for those who are freaking out about censorship.
Tucker is one show on one channel, up against the entirety of the machine.
They demonize him as a boogeyman to keep people on their side in line, while allowing him to act as a pressure release valve.
Veritas is an actual journalistic outlet, producing damning information and exposing the corrupt.
Nuked.
ian crossland
Yeah.
I think they do fair, unbiased journalism.
And for me, this is like my... Fox News or Veritas?
Veritas.
This is my litmus test for Twitter.
If they ban his account for that, I'll stop using Twitter completely.
I have no problem.
I've raised my account from like 400 followers to 10,000 in the last six months.
I've been heavily using Twitter, but... What's your Twitter?
Ian Crossland.
If they blow this, I think I'm going to mines 100% full time.
Yes.
tim pool
You know, that's the issue, too.
A lot of us gotta put our money where our mouth is and be more active on other platforms.
It's hard.
That's just it.
I don't even care about Twitter interactions.
I don't even know why I use it.
I probably should just start posting on Mines more.
That's it.
I'll do it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I'm building up my email list and I definitely recommend everyone else do the same.
Twitter, Instagram, I'm just gonna be extra spicy.
I have been.
I've been having a lot of fun with that.
If it goes, it goes.
But I have my email list.
WeAreChange.org, top right-hand corner, means a lot to me.
tim pool
I got a better idea.
We talked about this a bit on a show last week or so.
Why don't we just create a... Can we create some kind of federated plugin for websites?
lydia smith
Should.
tim pool
So instead of telling people, follow me on Twitter, I just say, follow me on TimCast.com?
ian crossland
Yeah, like an RSS.
We're talking about rebuilding RSS.
tim pool
So basically what we could do is we could create a feed where I can just pull up an app on my phone and I can, like I would normally tweet, but I would just go to my own, it would go to TimCast.com.
And we can all do it.
So if you go there, you'll see all of us, but then we can also do the same thing for all of our guests.
But then on their websites, they do the same thing.
And so basically there is no one social site.
It's just essentially RSS where everyone's getting an access to this feed where people are commenting and posting things.
ian crossland
We actually talked about RSS3 like going so we should talk to our incredibly talented developers that we have in the house to get some advice and take that move forward with that because I think that's a great idea.
tim pool
One of the things that we were talking about doing is creating a like a white label software open source that people can just they can buy a domain by server space and then install the package and then instantly have a full social media site but it's on their server space.
So if the hosting company bans them, well that's, you know, there you go.
You can still get banned.
But Twitter can't do it.
Facebook can't do it.
And then what we do is we just network them together in some capacity.
It would be weaker than Twitter, Facebook, or YouTube because the networking is limited compared to what you can do on Twitter, like hosting videos and stuff.
But we can still make a rudimentary system that would work this way.
That's that.
I think it's probably a good idea.
We should probably do it.
unidentified
I like that.
tim pool
One of the reasons I started TimCast.com was because I'm like, OK, well, I can always post here if I get banned.
So instead of saying, you know, follow me on Twitter, follow me on TimCast.com, go to the website.
We need to make something that aggregates posts from websites, I suppose.
So we have like the members only section.
Maybe we can make a directory that incorporates memberships or, like, content posts from a ton of different creators, influencers, you know, whatever, commentators.
That way, you have one app where you can follow everybody, but all it is is a directory, not actually, you know, a social media website.
ian crossland
Follow their website activity all through a decentralized... Were you going to say something, Luke?
luke rudkowski
Well, I was just, I don't want to sidetrack, finish your points, but I want to talk about the Florida travel restrictions.
Why, did you look into it?
No, I was hoping maybe we could pull up a story and then read it.
tim pool
We will, in a second.
That's crazy.
I guess we're pretty close to wrapping this one up as it is.
I guess the general idea is...
Is there anybody who wants, you know, especially those listening, who wants to put together an open-source, very simple, white-label package that you can install into a server that gives you the functionality of Twitter, Facebook, or YouTube, and then we can create a parent directory that just aggregates those.
So basically, we make a website called, like, you know, Ian's amazing, you know, funhouseadventure.com, and when you go there, If you set up one of these white-label software programs on your server, you just put your domain, you submit your domain to the site, it gets added to the directory, and then people can follow.
And then you go to this website, and you'll see a list of all the posts from these websites, and then they could ban the directory, I suppose, but the website still exists.
New directories would pop up, and you can't ban it.
Simple as that.
ian crossland
You could host video.
You'd have to pay to host your own video.
That's kind of a downside.
tim pool
And you'd have to pay to host your own everything.
But hey, look, if you're going to pay, I mean, how much is it going to cost to host text?
Just text.
ian crossland
Not much.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
If at all.
tim pool
That's going to be like 10 bucks for the domain and then like, you know, what, 10 bucks a month or something for server space?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then all you're doing is posting your tweets.
No one can ban you.
That's what iTunes is saying.
They're trying to get podcasts banned, but iTunes is like, we're a directory.
We list RSS feeds.
We don't actually host anything.
What do you want to ban?
Well, stop listing it.
It's literally just plugins, you know, whatever.
ian crossland
Where do they host the stuff from iTunes, the podcasts?
Where are those hosted that they're pulling from?
tim pool
On people's own servers.
People's own websites.
ian crossland
Oh, so you're hosting like the TimCast show on a server?
tim pool
A proprietary server.
ian crossland
Like Amazon AWS or something?
tim pool
It's a proprietary server.
ian crossland
But iTunes facilitates it for you?
tim pool
And all I do is provide the RSS link to the podcast platforms.
ian crossland
Oh, so you have someone else holding the server for you and then you provide a link to iTunes?
tim pool
There is an RSS link that is given to the podcast platforms and then they post it.
ian crossland
But I mean, I'm wondering, how do you get your podcast online?
tim pool
Proprietary server.
ian crossland
That's you finding a proprietary server somewhere else?
tim pool
You upload to a proprietary server that you get access to, and then you send the link to the podcast companies.
ian crossland
When you say you get access to it, you have to actually go get, it's not through iTunes, it's something separate?
tim pool
Ian, I'm not going to reveal exactly how we're hosting our private content.
ian crossland
I don't care the name of it, but you're saying you go outside of iTunes.
tim pool
You get a server, you send the RSS link to iTunes, and iTunes just shows the link.
unidentified
That's it.
ian crossland
Got it.
tim pool
End of story.
You wanted to talk about Flora a little bit?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I mean, there's some scuttlebutt, there's some rumors, according to some anonymous reports from inside the White House.
that the Biden administration is considering imposing domestic travel restrictions to Florida to stop the spread of COVID-19.
There's a lot of responses and official statements made by a lot of Florida government officials, not a lot of government officials from the White House that allegedly are going to be imposing this.
So, still unconfirmed, but that's the rumors that we're having.
tim pool
Let's do this.
Why don't we dive into this on the website, because we're at Super Chat time.
luke rudkowski
Let me just read one paragraph here from this NPR article that says DeSantos, the governor of Florida, pointed that the coronavirus related emergency room visits in Florida have dropped by more than half since December.
He said he's 100% opposed to any restrictions domestically.
So that's DeSantos.
That's what he said.
blaire white
Good for him.
luke rudkowski
Just wanted to make that statement.
A tease to what we're going to be talking about afterwards.
blaire white
He's a rock star.
I love him.
tim pool
Well, let's go to Super Chats.
If you haven't already, smash the like button, hit that notification bell, subscribe, all of that stuff.
And like I said, go to TimCast.com, because we're going to have that segment where we... The reason why I was saying we should save this for the bonus segment, or the members-only segment, is because we're going to say a whole bunch of stuff YouTube probably will be unhappy with.
So let's give ourselves that space to do it, because it sounds like a freaky story.
Other than that, we're going to get up on these... We're going to get over to these Super Chats.
And, uh, all right, let's see what we got.
Carlos Mencia.
Oh, wow.
The Carlos Mencia says, I know how to build and design what you're talking about.
Where can I get in touch?
Um, you know what?
For anybody who's interested, email jobs at timcast.com.
I've actually set it up.
That's going to get inundated, but I'm, I'm, you know what, man, I was actually, we were, we were driving back and I was like, why don't we just fund like our own TV show?
Why don't we just like they banned that they fired Gina, you know, Carano.
And I'm like, why don't we just make our own shows?
We don't got Hollywood budgets, but it's not hard to make.
blaire white
That's what the Daily Wire is starting to do, which I think is a really positive move.
I forgot we were live, by the way, until you said superchats.
I completely forgot.
tim pool
I was like, I'm just sitting here.
luke rudkowski
Even if we make really bad ones and really cringey ones, they would still be a lot better than the propaganda in Hollywood.
blaire white
Yeah.
tim pool
It's really, really frustrating because YouTube has changed the layout for Super Chat so I can't actually read the name of the Super Chat.
ian crossland
That's weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
blaire white
That sucks.
tim pool
Yeah, why did they do that?
ian crossland
That's horrible.
blaire white
People deserve to have their name right, I think.
ian crossland
Dude, Google does not know how to run a social network.
They never have.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you know.
luke rudkowski
In the beginning they did when, you know, you actually got to see what you subscribed to.
ian crossland
Alright, we got- But they just bought YouTube.
YouTube knew how.
Google bought it and then started to ruin it.
blaire white
Yeah.
tim pool
We got Darth Halic says, Tom McDonald's new song has been removed from all major music services.
His message is too powerful.
Please get him as a guest.
Tom's cool.
We know Tom and I'll tell you this right now.
You think Tom's cool?
lydia smith
He is.
tim pool
We have a ton of other people we've all reached out to.
A ton of really awesome people.
People can't travel right now.
lydia smith
It's true.
tim pool
So a lot of people are like, why?
Uh, I don't want to, I don't want to mention anything too specific about people's families or whatever, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of issues where people are taking health very seriously.
And so there's been like a dozen really amazing guests.
I'm super excited for some people.
I'm just like, there, there's like, you know, one particular person I've been a fan of for a decade and they're like, I'd love to do the show, but COVID and here are the reasons.
And I'm like, those are legitimate.
Oh, that sucks.
blaire white
So I'm just the backup.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Oh yeah, definitely.
We were like, what crazy person would fly from across the country and Blair, we were like, oh yeah, we'll get Blair.
She'll totally do it.
lydia smith
She'll do it.
blaire white
Absolutely.
tim pool
No, we're stoked to have you, of course.
blaire white
I love Tom McDonald, by the way.
I think what he's doing is awesome.
I just discovered him last week.
I don't know why.
I'm late on the train.
luke rudkowski
Me too.
blaire white
And I messaged him on Instagram.
I was like, good job.
And he's like, my girlfriend's freaking out.
She loves you.
I was like, that made me feel really good.
Dude, it sounds great.
Yeah.
tim pool
Man, his videos are so good.
lydia smith
He really is.
blaire white
And did you know his girlfriend films all of them?
It's only those two doing all of it.
No big production.
No labels.
unidentified
And the quality is so good.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying, let's start making stuff.
So jobs at timcast.com.
lydia smith
What do we need?
tim pool
We'll just start pitching ideas.
I don't know if someone wants to build the flux capacitor or invent a time machine.
Same thing, you know.
unidentified
I can't believe it, but that's just so...
tim pool
I mean, he yells, facts don't care about your feelings, you know?
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
That's the chorus, so.
All right, let's see what we got.
VBDC says, check out my interviews with Ian and Xertus on Talky Time only on IG.
Big up, Tim Crew.
Is that something you do?
ian crossland
That's on Instagram, yeah.
tim pool
Oh yeah, right on.
Justin Meyer says, who is this Blair chick she's got?
blaire white
What's that mean?
tim pool
Is that supposed to be an H?
I think he typoed.
lydia smith
Sounds great.
blaire white
What's got mean?
tim pool
Hot.
blaire white
Oh.
unidentified
Maybe?
blaire white
Yeah, we'll go with that.
unidentified
Goth?
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Gareth Green says, Hey Blair, I've been following you since 2017.
Oh, thank you.
Gareth is one of our mega super chatters.
Super chats a lot.
lydia smith
So great.
blaire white
Nice.
Thank you so much.
tim pool
Jay says, I have been canceling my Disney plus sub after each episode of The Mandalorian.
The service doesn't offer me anything else that is worthwhile.
Now I have more reason to stay unsubscribed.
Cancel season three.
You know, I'm, uh, I kind of feel bad that I subscribed in the first place.
I was not subscribed to Disney plus.
And then when, when Jack was like, actually Mandalorian is pretty good.
I was like, I should, I should season two.
I was like, I should watch it.
Um, you know, and Gina Carano was great in it.
I thought she, I thought she was great.
I thought she was good in Deadpool.
And then when this happened, people started saying, you should cancel Disney Plus because of the Uyghur Muslim thing and their support for the paramilitary group.
And I was like, oh, why did I subscribe to this in the first place?
Because they still get to keep my money, even though I canceled, you know?
blaire white
I just wanted to watch Cheetah Girls.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
That's all I wanted.
lydia smith
Something simple.
tim pool
Dizhiz says, I don't like Blair White, but you guys should be able to handle other opinions.
Sounds like cancel culture.
Live chat gotta chill.
Oh, I'm sorry, he says, I don't like Blair White either, but you guys should be able to handle other opinions.
Sounds like cancel culture.
Live chat gotta chill.
Well, not everyone's gonna love you.
I mean, Ian gets a lot of flack every so often.
ian crossland
Welcome to hell.
blaire white
But you know what?
It's so much better to be someone that everyone has a strong opinion about than the opposite.
ian crossland
I mean, it's good for ratings.
tim pool
I mean, it's followed up by, from Make the Transition, I love Mommy Blair.
Right, it's love or hate.
unidentified
Love it.
tim pool
Garhent says, Gina was fired day before Q1 Disney release.
Rumor is internal Disney employee released it before Q1 to save her.
Disney was firing her before.
Interesting.
No, but she got canned from UTA.
That's brutal.
Like losing your talent agency.
blaire white
UTA is a big deal.
tim pool
Yeah.
I'm not a fan.
And, uh, I'm more a fan of making your own stuff.
Yeah.
We need to build our own industries.
We need to build our own, you know, infrastructure for all this stuff.
ian crossland
Man, I had management, CBS management, they had been at CBS before and they dropped me when I was making YouTube videos with a black eye talking about getting hit in the face.
They were like, it's too racy, dude.
That industry sucks.
It's like a big snake that you want to ride that will bite you and throw you off if you mess with it.
blaire white
True.
tim pool
Enabled Diamond says, Sour Patch Lids, I at you on Twitter.
Can you please show my dog?
I had to put her down today.
Just please show how happy she is.
That's how I want her remembered.
At Luke Polska forever.
lydia smith
I'm very sorry.
I got to pull it up.
I'm sorry.
I didn't see that go by.
tim pool
Can you try and find it on your phone?
We'll figure out what it is and then we'll pull it up.
blaire white
That's sad.
lydia smith
Yeah.
blaire white
Sorry about that.
lydia smith
Yeah, man.
luke rudkowski
Dogs are man's best friend.
tim pool
Yeah.
Damon Cord says, there is a civil war in Lucasfilms and she is popular on one side and conservative.
Kennedy's faction hates almost everyone with Mandalorian.
lydia smith
Wow.
tim pool
That's so weird.
Jared Thiel says, hey Tim, was talking with a friend from MKE and went to UWM and basically told me that it's student bodies and student governors who started the local riots.
Interesting.
Jen McMahon says, is that Blair's voice I hear?
It is Blair!
Hi Blair!
unidentified
Hi!
lydia smith
Yes!
blaire white
Is there audio only for this?
lydia smith
I love it.
Yeah, after the podcast.
tim pool
Yeah.
So really, I mean, but it's because people, when they listen to a show like this, even though it's live and there's cameras... Oh, sometimes they don't look, yeah.
Yeah, they don't look.
Cirilio says, I love when separate YouTubers I watch get together.
It's like the old school crossover episode of your favorite show as a kid.
Yes.
blaire white
I always love it too.
I'm like, that person knows that person.
I love it.
tim pool
I think I'm just gonna have to keep skipping forward because the next one is Blair and Hart and just, yeah, just basically everybody like, you know, Blair's great.
lydia smith
Thank you.
unidentified
Love it.
tim pool
Shaker Silver says, why focus on Pedro?
Go for the jugular.
Disney has not answered for support of the Uyghur camps and the lead actress of Mulan supporting Hong Kong police.
lydia smith
All true.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Not good.
tim pool
Well.
Another shout-out, we have Clayton Redding says, uh, Reddig says, Serpensa and LaWai86 would be awesome guests.
lydia smith
True.
tim pool
You have a lot of follower overlap, that would be, that would be very happy, uh, that would be very happy about it.
lydia smith
Very true.
tim pool
Yeah, what's up, are we gonna?
lydia smith
I'm gonna look him up.
Yeah, yeah, they're in my list.
tim pool
We've reached out to him, right?
lydia smith
Yeah, I know, I know, I've reached out.
Yeah, it's all good.
luke rudkowski
I want Elliot Hulse.
tim pool
Who's that?
lydia smith
Yes, I know.
luke rudkowski
He's another YouTuber.
lydia smith
He's like a trainer.
luke rudkowski
StrengthCamp.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
He's super cool.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
lydia smith
I like him.
tim pool
Interesting.
I like that.
I really like that.
you Tim but Occam's razor is not the simplest solution is often the correct
one it is quote competing hypotheses about the same prediction one should
select the solution with the fewest assumptions simple solutions can have
huge assumptions that's a very very good point and thank you for the correction
because I have been oversimplifying the statement for sure yes the one that
makes the fewest assumptions is a better way of saying it yes our our brace well
been saying this is pre-world war two Germany Speak up and speak out.
Don't let them take your voice.
Don't let them tell you you're wrong.
Who cares if you don't have a Facebook or Twitter?
Shut them up and shut them down before they get you.
lydia smith
Do not go quietly.
tim pool
There are a bunch of people I know who are prominent and powerful, and like you were saying about Hollywood Half is Conservative, they seem to think, and I'll tell you this, you guys are wrong, that if they shut up and sit down, then the tide will pass over them.
It will not.
blaire white
It'll get you.
tim pool
It's you know that meme of death going door to door?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
That's what's happening.
And for some reasons people are like, well, he's gonna skip this one cuz I'm not making any noise.
No, he's opening every single one.
blaire white
You don't actually need a reason they can make up things to you know what I mean?
Just like Chris Pratt when everyone was going after him for being a suspected conservative and he was getting hate for that.
It's like they're all gonna get you.
luke rudkowski
Tom Brady.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
It was racist of him to win the Super Bowl.
Right, they can just make it up.
They were like, Colin Kaepernick was trending after the Super Bowl.
And they were saying like, happy Colin Kaepernick Appreciation Day.
I'm like, why?
You can praise him as an activist, I don't care.
But he doesn't play football!
blaire white
See, I don't know anything about the Super Bowl.
I didn't even know it was happening when it was happening.
But I told my friend, I was like, oh, the Super Bowl's on.
They'll make it about race somehow.
And then it happened.
It was just so predictable.
lydia smith
Unavoidable.
blaire white
Yeah.
tim pool
Jordan Fowler says, Tim and crew, are any of you worried that the government considers you to be too radical because of what you say and come after you with the FBI or ATF saying you're dangerous because you own guns?
I'm not worried.
blaire white
No.
tim pool
In fact, I think things have improved for me because when I first went to buy guns, I was heavily delayed
It took like five days not anymore, right now It's like they punch it in and that the FBI guys that it's
called Knicks. They're just like, oh, it's Tim again. Hey We were joking that they're probably at this point. They're
probably like oh, hey, it's Tim We watch your show.
Yeah, here you go.
Get your guns or whatever.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Correct.
tim pool
I'm not worried.
I, you know, I don't know.
What do you think, Luke?
luke rudkowski
Are you worried?
We, you know, dot our I's, cross our T's.
We don't do anything illegal.
We're overly careful about making sure we follow every little made up rule.
Doesn't matter.
unidentified
All rules are made up.
luke rudkowski
We make sure that we're squeaky clean and we are.
And there's nothing that could get they could get us on.
ian crossland
Yeah, I've been basically invited to Bilderberg, so I'm not concerned.
tim pool
Ian's part of the Illuminati, so.
Dimitri Kudzik says, Hi Tim, love your idea on making short films that are not affected by today's divisive political climate.
By the way, where can one send a pitch script?
I am a professional 3D animator and VFX artist.
Will be happy to help with CG if you need it.
You know, honestly, I don't even know where to begin with something like this because I'm not.
I've made documentaries.
I've never made fiction stuff.
The documentaries I've made have always been field reporting, you know, verite kind of stuff or hosted stuff.
In terms of putting together a short film, I don't know where to begin.
lydia smith
You can send everything to me at Lydia at TimCast.com, which everyone latched on to after Tim said that in his morning assignment.
tim pool
Well, actually, we have jobs at TimCast.com.
lydia smith
We do?
tim pool
Very cool.
Yes, I've created something specific.
So I think, however, we'll need to make pitches or pitch at TimCast.com soon.
We don't have that now.
But jobs will suffice because not everyone is trying to pitch a story.
And to be completely honest, I don't know if we're at the point where we can actually go through that and get to it.
I think the first thing we need to do is hire a production specialist, you know?
Someone who can do it and knows what they need to make short films and a series.
And I'd love to actually fund maybe like a 10-episode series of some sort.
It's not a big budget, but you look at shows like The Office and their budget is mostly the star power.
You know, the actors and their cost.
ian crossland
I was watching that last night.
tim pool
It's not hard to do something, you know, really simple with a couple cameras and we have the resources to do it.
So let's just do it.
We could make, you know, I was thinking about, I think you mentioned this earlier before we were on the show, you said comedy is like dying or dead, Blair.
And then I was like, well, there's Ryan Long, you know, Tim Dillon, Tim Dillon.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
JP Sears.
tim pool
Yeah, definitely J.P.
Sears.
Yeah, yeah.
blaire white
There's a few.
tim pool
Yeah, so I'm like, well, maybe that's the kind of humor that we can do in a sitcom that doesn't exist in TV or Disney or Hulu because they're terrified little babies.
And look, I'll make what people want to watch if they want to watch it.
And if it works, we'll make more.
You know, it sounds fun.
blaire white
I think it's a good idea.
tim pool
We just got to build our own infrastructure.
lydia smith
Definitely.
tim pool
Like Tom McDonald doing his thing independently.
lydia smith
Yes, exactly.
tim pool
Oh, we got a big ol' super chat from Emmanuel Zayas.
Appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
lydia smith
Thank you, sir.
tim pool
Whoa.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
Rubio was the main one who has been in charge of censorship.
He was the one who called the expert witness that famously said, we must silence the cannons
on social media.
800 journalists from both sides of the aisle were banned immediately after.
Wow, really?
lydia smith
Whoa.
blaire white
I didn't know that.
lydia smith
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Jeez.
KDB says, so happy to see Blair on.
I watch every single one of you, of you, of both of your videos.
Wish I wasn't working so I could watch it all live.
Now, to make one more dream come true, Luke, if you haven't decided yet, please scare Tim with shoe on head.
luke rudkowski
Ah, okay, well.
blaire white
Well, what does that mean?
tim pool
Well, he wants you to come on the show.
luke rudkowski
Oh, no.
Tim stored my RV with Alex Jones and woke me up when I was taking a nap.
And now I got to find someone to bring on the show to scare the crap out of Tim when he's sleeping.
lydia smith
That's great.
tim pool
Well, Shu's always welcome to come on the show, but we have a lot of invites out.
luke rudkowski
So contact me, Shu.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
KCB says, I nuked all my social media a month ago, and the joy I have in life has been wildly increased.
Also, happy 40th birthday to my beautiful wife of 20 years.
blaire white
Happy birthday!
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, love it.
tim pool
Jack Bencivenga says, would you want to have Gina Carano on the show as a guest?
I saw a segment of Steven Crowder where he said he'd hire her.
I saw that too.
He was like, I don't care for what.
You're hired.
We'll give you any job.
lydia smith
Oh my God.
tim pool
I would.
It'd be amazing to have Gina Carano on the show.
I'd absolutely love to.
You guys should reach out.
I tweeted at her.
It's the only real way.
Uh, you know, it's hard, but, uh, you know, I'm sure this has been pretty crummy for her, so I don't want to.
blaire white
She's going through it.
I'm sure.
luke rudkowski
You don't want to be asking for favors, you know.
tim pool
Yeah.
But maybe it could also be an opportunity to speak freely for a couple hours, explain, you know.
She went on the Babylon Bee podcast, I guess, recently.
luke rudkowski
Right before everything.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
blaire white
Maybe once the dust settles and she's kind of like... It can't feel good.
She's probably really going through it.
unidentified
Yeah.
blaire white
I mean, maybe she's not.
tim pool
Maybe she's like... She seems kind of tough.
I wonder if she was just like, oh, you know, got angry.
ian crossland
I'm sure she's devastated.
I went through it prematurely.
I had to leave the entertainment industry after I had, like, management with CBS and booking commercials and television, but I just kept speaking honestly on YouTube.
They stopped working with me, basically, and I realized I had to make a choice.
Go down there and be subservient or do the free speech thing.
I did free speech.
I lost all the money, all the notoriety, almost killed myself.
And now, now I've realized I did the right thing by sticking to my honest truth.
So she's like just entering that, that like, what have I done?
tim pool
What have I done with my life?
ian crossland
I've just been blinded by the entertainment.
tim pool
What if she don't?
For her life, she fought eight MMA matches and won seven of them.
unidentified
Boom!
tim pool
Nice.
Yeah, so my thing's always like, if tomorrow I got permabanned from every platform and then my hosting, everything went down, I'd be like, let's go fishing.
You can't, you know.
blaire white
Yeah, I've always been like that too.
It's like everything ended right now.
ian crossland
Yeah, but what if they took all your money away?
blaire white
Well, that's different.
ian crossland
They took all your houses, all your money tomorrow.
unidentified
All of my houses!
ian crossland
You'd be like, what would you do with your life?
tim pool
Uh, I'd go skate.
ian crossland
You'd probably try and get it back.
tim pool
Nah.
ian crossland
I would imagine you wouldn't turn over and give up.
tim pool
But it depends, like, you know, I'd love to just go hang out at the skate park and just skate all day, you know.
luke rudkowski
I would go to Bali and live for pennies on the dollar.
Yeah, Costa Rica, man.
tim pool
You know, the issue is, I'll tell you this, to be honest, you need money to a certain degree.
So if everything got banned, I'd probably do some consulting work, make enough to sustain myself for a decent amount, and probably just go skate.
ian crossland
Would you continue to try the same methodology, or would you do some totally different lifestyle?
tim pool
Very true.
Very true.
Chill out.
Go skate, go fishing, and live in a van down by the river.
I got the van, it's ready to go.
ian crossland
I guess they can't take your van.
Very true.
They can try.
tim pool
Very true.
I don't know, if they took everything away from me, I'd just-
It's an extreme postularity, but yeah.
I'd go live in the woods and, you know, build a mud hut.
lydia smith
Chill out, yeah.
tim pool
All right, Publius the Good says, Well, we need a freedom party.
This issue is that Biden used his power under the Obama administration to use the IRS to destroy the Tea Party.
I don't see a realistic solution when the ruling class will unlawfully try to destroy all the opposition.
I hear you on that one, man.
lydia smith
It's true, man.
tim pool
Swifty says, I think the only thing about Disney as it is now that Walt Disney himself would be disappointed or angry with is that most of the management is either Jewish or female.
Very sad.
lydia smith
Unspeakable.
tim pool
Walt Disney was a raging anti-Semite and a sexist.
So, you know, that's the point.
ian crossland
Yep.
tim pool
Publius the Good says, plus, plus, plus, plus 5,000 for your guest.
Well said.
lydia smith
Heck yeah!
tim pool
People think you are great, Blair.
unidentified
Oh, thank you.
lydia smith
That's very true.
tim pool
Chris Pavotto says, calling you guys out hypocrites for bashing Twitter, but still using it.
You all have other means to reach fans.
Why keep it?
Smack talking it, but helping them in ad revenue.
And please, don't just say it's the new social gathering place.
No, I think you're right.
Absolutely.
And I think that's why I'm going to focus more on the TeamCast.com.
I'm going to see if we can build the system where we can all post stuff in like a Twitter-like style just on the website.
So I would just be like, follow me on my website and we have our posts of content all day and our jokes and you can comment and respond.
That's probably the way to do it, man.
We already have a comment section.
We just need to create, you know, just blog posts.
And yeah, I should probably use mine more than Twitter from now on.
Probably just use Twitter for reading the news.
ian crossland
I understand that hypocritical statement.
That kind of wrecks me during my life where I think, you know, we live off the backs of child slaves.
This clothing was made probably in a factory somewhere by people, I don't know.
But I do it anyway.
We type on plastic.
That's what we're... Sorry, Tim.
What were you going to say?
unidentified
No, no, no.
ian crossland
Let's move on.
So, I don't know, man.
blaire white
Everyone's a hypocrite.
luke rudkowski
We're all hypocrites.
unidentified
Yeah, we are.
tim pool
This is a good one.
IB Drago says, Bill Gates is Mr. Rabbit in Utopia.
He literally checks off all the boxes.
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
Do you know what that is, Mr. Rabbit?
Very true.
So, Utopia, the new one that came out on Amazon, is about this, like, tech mogul guy, or he's making fake meat.
And, uh...
Am I spoiling the show if I tell everybody?
ian crossland
Well, spoiler alert.
Spoiler alert if you don't want to know.
tim pool
If you don't want to watch Utopia.
Basically, they call him Mr. Rabbit, and he manufactured, like, they're staging a virus, or I think they manufactured it, so that they can give people a vaccine that sterilizes them.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
You know, so.
lydia smith
Yeah.
blaire white
Something like that.
unidentified
Stark.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Stark.
tim pool
They canceled it because people were like, yo, this is...
lydia smith
Too close to reality, right?
blaire white
It's a little close to home.
tim pool
Or I guess it made people, like, think it was real.
lydia smith
Whatever.
tim pool
Well, actually, so the show is about a comic book that is basically predicting what's going on.
And so the point people are making was, it's a show about a fictional medium predicting that there is going to be a fake disease where they'll use it as a pretext for giving everyone a vaccine that sterilizes them.
And now in the real world, there is this show, which is saying everything that happened, and it's, you know, there's a vaccine coming out, so people got freaked out by it.
blaire white
Are you all gonna get the vaccine?
lydia smith
No way.
ian crossland
Uh, no.
tim pool
I have food allergies.
ian crossland
I have no plans.
tim pool
Yeah, so I guess I'm not supposed- I can't get it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I can't.
tim pool
There was a pregnant lady who got it and miscarried.
And it's- they say don't do this!
There was a story where it was like- In the United Kingdom.
luke rudkowski
Specifically, they tell people if you're pregnant, don't take it.
If you have allergies, don't take it.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
So I'll tell you this.
There's a story where it's like a woman and she's like standing with her hands on her hips and she's getting the vaccine and she's 14 weeks pregnant and then she posts two weeks later saying this is tragically miscarried and I feel so bad for her.
lydia smith
Sorry.
tim pool
But like they warned women who are pregnant not to take the vaccine and they warned people with food allergies not to do it.
So as far as I'm concerned, I'm gonna follow those guidelines because a woman, you know, miscarried.
I take it seriously.
lydia smith
That is serious.
tim pool
A lot of people get too much into the politics of it.
Talk to your doctors.
If your doctors tell you what you should do, you should do it.
And if there are things that are like counter-indicated or they say you don't do it for these reasons, take it seriously.
I'm not super worried.
We're talking about herd immunity.
It means there's a lot of people who have no problem.
They're going to get the vaccine.
They're going to be fine.
And I think a couple million or whatever already have.
Biden says he's going to do his mass rollout.
Then we have herd immunity and not everyone is going to get it.
I'm not saying people should ignore it and not get it.
I'm saying if you are pregnant, if you are nursing, if you have allergies, you should follow those instructions.
And I'm taking those seriously because I don't want anaphylaxis.
I mean, that does not sound fun.
luke rudkowski
The head of Johnson & Johnson, by the way, is saying that people should take the shot once a year.
And they're going to have to take it when it mutates and changes.
There's also some news about rare blood disorders that are coming up with some people.
A lot of things we got to get into that we're going to talk about later on.
lydia smith
Yeah, so I'm immunocompromised and I probably will not be taking it at all until people around me have taken it.
Like, I'm not going to worry about it until everyone around me is super chill about it.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Turkeyface says, don't mind me, I'm just simping for Blair White.
She's awesome.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
tim pool
So many of these comments I'm like passing because it's just like people, you know, praising Blair.
blaire white
Okay, well, shout out to the one superchat that made me think everyone hated me.
unidentified
In reality, all these are like positive things.
lydia smith
They love you.
tim pool
You know, I don't want to bring the negativity, but I also think if someone comments something negative and I skip it because they're saying something bad about somebody... And that's fake too.
Yeah, it's fake, it's fake.
But I gotta be honest, they're mostly praising you.
ian crossland
Also, like, I don't know.
Negativity doesn't deserve to get propagated sometimes.
It's like, if you're damaging the system, why would I highlight you?
So I don't know.
I got mixed feelings.
I used to want to show everybody, propagate everyone.
Everyone deserves a chance.
But certain behaviors, I don't know.
Then all of a sudden I become the hierarch that decides what can and shouldn't be said.
blaire white
It's a deep conversation.
tim pool
Michael Holder says I was gonna buy one of those space helmets to troll my coworkers, and my manager shut me down because it would affect my peripheral vision.
No moral browbeating morons for me.
Sad troll noises.
I'm gonna have fun.
I'm gonna take this thing out to Walmart, and I'm gonna give everyone disgusted looks.
When they look at me, I'm gonna go, ugh.
lydia smith
Not as good as me.
tim pool
I don't know why you're yelling at me.
lydia smith
He'll totally lecture them.
tim pool
And I have two of them, so like, me and Ian can both do it.
And just, like, it's the best thing.
Virtue signaling, it feels so good when you express your moral superiority over your fellow man.
Imagine being able to physically wear a space helmet and then just point at people and yell.
lydia smith
Sounds amazing.
tim pool
Remember in Invasion of the Body Snatchers when, what's his face?
Sutherland guy?
ian crossland
What's his first name?
Donald Sutherland?
tim pool
Yeah, he goes, Like points and yells?
We can do that.
blaire white
Because you know what's funny is people really do that.
Like I see people that do like the double mask and the face shield and the goggles and they look at you crazy.
They look at you like you're gonna kill someone.
tim pool
Luke's got a funny meme where it's a guy wearing sunglasses and he's just he's thinking like that's crazy and it's a guy wearing a mask and a face shield getting anal swabbed for a COVID test and he's thinking conspiracy theorist.
But that's what they're doing in China.
Yeah, I saw that.
They're butt swabbing people, you know.
Well, hey, man, you know, whatever.
lydia smith
That's nice of you.
tim pool
All right.
Count Ludwig says, I hate formal boycotts, but I think that free speech lovers must start organizing them against companies that kowtow to cancel culture.
In war, the best funded organized army usually wins.
Right now, we're just a rag tag squad.
lydia smith
True.
ian crossland
Yep.
lydia smith
Yep.
You vote with your dollar.
tim pool
Zach, uh, let's see.
Robert Boss says, I went to DC from Miami two days ago.
Flight to DC had all middle seats empty.
Flight back home to Miami, all seats taken.
American Airlines didn't let people on board in bandanas, masks only.
lydia smith
Interesting.
blaire white
Yeah, they don't do bandanas.
Americans pretty bad with it.
unidentified
That's fair.
I get it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Publius the Good says, Well said, Tim.
This is the central issue.
The stimulus bills have done virtually nothing for individual people and massively benefited corrupt corporations.
ian crossland
Yup.
lydia smith
Very true.
tim pool
More people saying that they've cancelled their Disney Plus.
I think it's the right move because, you know, as long as moderates, disrespected liberals, conservatives, whatever this pro-freedom faction is, as long as they're not going to be organized and do anything, they're just going to keep losing.
So you got to start, you know, voting with your dollars, man.
You got to say no.
blaire white
Right.
tim pool
Keyboard Warrior says, Tim, what was the military stealth radar you talked about the other day that got recalled for too many false positives?
What terms can I Google for?
Do you remember that Ian?
ian crossland
It was like a quantum radar.
tim pool
Quantum radar.
That's what it was.
Yeah.
The idea was that it could detect invisible things in the sky and it was giving too many readings, I guess.
ian crossland
Too many false positives.
We can't...
tim pool
Well, I'll say this.
I haven't looked into that story.
I don't know what it's about.
But you can Google it and you can investigate it and fact check it.
ian crossland
It was too good so they pulled it off the market and just told everyone that it was malfunctioning.
tim pool
Or it was actually malfunctioning.
unidentified
That was my conspiracy theory.
tim pool
Cassetto says, here's money just because you said The Book of Eli is a good movie.
The Book of Eli is awesome.
lydia smith
Very true.
tim pool
Have you all seen it?
You've not seen it?
You'd love it.
lydia smith
It's great.
tim pool
It's really good.
I don't want to say anything.
I don't want to spoil it now because Luke's not seen it.
It's awesome.
It's Denzel, right?
Denzel Washington?
He's great.
blaire white
Wait, I thought it was Will Smith.
tim pool
No, no, no.
blaire white
I guess it is, Jimzo.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe you're thinking of, um... iRobot?
No, I Am Legend.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
blaire white
Yeah, I've seen both of those, but yeah.
tim pool
Similar post-apocalyptic.
blaire white
iRobot was good, too.
tim pool
Yeah, I think iRobot was awesome.
blaire white
Movies suck now.
tim pool
Right?
lydia smith
Seriously, thank you.
tim pool
Oh yeah, Will Smith was in iRobot, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I think that's one of his best movies, to be honest.
blaire white
It was good.
tim pool
So good.
I kind of want to watch it now.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Gareth Green says, Tim and Blair, remember Killroy?
The meme?
Oh, the event!
The Killroy event.
Remember that?
Do you remember that?
blaire white
Have I lost my mind?
I don't know what that is.
tim pool
They were doing that.
blaire white
It sounds familiar.
tim pool
It was like in Phoenix or whatever.
They're going to do that event and then it fell apart because.
blaire white
Oh, yeah, that was a moment.
lydia smith
Indeed.
unidentified
Yeah, that was a moment.
tim pool
One of those drama things that doesn't matter to the bigger world, huh?
blaire white
Yeah, I see.
I forgot about it.
I'm like, what?
tim pool
Doug Smith says, Tim, love your show.
My wife and I are new business owners.
Opened a storefront February 2020.
Got shut down.
Still had to pay rent.
Been holding on, but we haven't taken a paycheck for a year.
How can we sponsor you?
Win-win.
luke rudkowski
What's the store?
What do they do?
tim pool
Yeah, what's your... well, I don't know how you're not going to be able to respond.
luke rudkowski
Well, they can probably message us through the email and then we can probably... Info at TimCast.com.
We could figure out some kind of creative way to help each other.
tim pool
Yeah, info at TimCast.com.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
Prometheus says, no helmet, but wearing a mask is normal for many motorcycle riders, more specifically Harley riders, for bugs.
You see, Luke, you were wrong.
You judged somebody and you were wrong.
luke rudkowski
Uh, no, this was like the medical mask.
I understand a bandana, but this was like... Maybe he was wearing it because it served the purpose.
tim pool
Then when it bugs in his mouth.
lydia smith
Catch the bugs.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Please wear a helmet.
luke rudkowski
He had no glasses.
I think he had glasses if that was the case.
tim pool
You're a bigot.
lydia smith
Oh, that's all it is.
tim pool
Zix Captain, L-T-I-M-T says, hey, hiya Tim, if you need someone to do some character voices for our satirical short, I'd like to try out for that.
Can go high and low from Ganondorf, Ocarina of Time, to Alvin from Alvin and the Chipmunks, and higher and lower.
Oh, very interesting.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
Well, once we start figuring out what we're doing, you know, we'll do it to it.
Are you taking pictures?
blaire white
I did a boomerang for Instagram.
unidentified
Oh.
blaire white
Promoting your show!
tim pool
A boomerang.
lydia smith
Love it.
tim pool
Our science is everyone watching right now should contact the FTC and try and take take down conglomerates on Google
Facebook and Twitter These companies will not be nearly powerful. They don't
have subsidiaries Well file complaints when you have legitimate complaints
for sure. That's what their agencies are for Sparky the pyro says mystery movie theater 9000 Tim cast
edition when That would be a lot of fun.
But you can't, you can't do it.
You can't watch a movie and comment on it because they take you down.
lydia smith
So boring.
tim pool
Unless you like, you know what you do?
You record the commentary and tell people as at the, at the zero zero mark, press play.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
We could release a bunch of those and you have a time stamp on it.
tim pool
And then what you do is you turn us on while you watch the movie and you can hear us talk about the movie and do commentary.
That'd be fun, right?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Migno Solomon says, I never understood income tax.
Basically, the more productive you are, the more you pay versus sales tax, where the more you consume, you pay.
If you use more resources, you're using more services that government provides.
Thoughts?
I like, I have no problem with taxes.
I have a problem with the corruption.
So, there was this really great meme posted by this really brilliant independent journalist, where it said, when capitalists complain about socialism, they're complaining about government, and when socialists complain about capitalism, they're complaining about government.
I can't, I can't figure out the, remember the name of this, this, this genius independent journalist who posted this.
Luke, could you maybe know who, who it was?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
It was Luke, he posted this meme.
lydia smith
It was totally Luke, yeah.
It was Luke.
tim pool
No, it was a good meme, though.
It's like, Everybody, the socialists are like, the capitalists are doing this and that.
And I'm like, you're complaining about corruption.
And then the capitalists, like the socialists, you're also complaining about corruption.
unidentified
Right.
luke rudkowski
That was today's meme.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Today's meme while you do like one.
luke rudkowski
There's a lot of memes.
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
That's the main one for my Instagram today.
blaire white
Meme of the day.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Meme of the day.
Steven Biggs says, I write and have directed several of my own movies.
If you are seriously interested in making your own shows, I would be interested in helping.
Well, jobs at timcast.com.
So it'll probably, you know, light up, but there you go.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Aurora Diaz says, Tim, that's exactly Mastodon Social.
You could make at Tim at timcast.social and have a pod like email has a domain and they connect together.
Well, not Mastodon, but the Fediverse.
The problem with Mastodon is they're super woke far left and they ban everybody.
So the idea is to use something like the Fediverse, which so we very may well use Fediverse software.
lydia smith
Beautiful.
tim pool
So that we can all link everything together.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
All right.
We'll just take maybe two more super chats.
We have this one from Hannah Choi says, how do you guys get your sources?
I can never find good trustworthy sources on Google.
By the way, love you Blair.
I just read multiple sources.
So I'll do a search for a story and I'll see what everybody's saying.
And then I'll look at a right wing source and a left wing source and then try and, you know, figure out where the truth is at.
lydia smith
Can I put my two cents in?
Because I use Memeo Random.
M-E-M-E.
Random.com.
And they pull everything together for you.
It's fantastic.
I really love it.
It's like everything.
It's completely unbiased.
I love it.
blaire white
Nice.
tim pool
Is it?
No?
No Luke?
luke rudkowski
You don't have any sources?
Fact check everything and make sure there's actually evidence behind it.
Look at the documents, look at the photos, look at who's cooperating it, look at the witnesses.
Is it an anonymous source?
Well, there's reason to be skeptical if it is.
lydia smith
Yes, thank you.
tim pool
All right, we'll do one last super chat from Ed S. He says, Blair is hot.
There's just a lot of them.
That's the finale super chat.
So ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna do a bonus segment.
It's gonna be for members only over at TimCast.com.
So make sure you go there and sign up if you want to hear us talk all this crazy stuff that would probably get us banned off social media.
blaire white
It's gonna be good.
tim pool
And there's even a shout out to all the grifters who signed up to become members and have given us your emails and IPs and all that stuff to just download our clips and post them all over the internet, which is just free promotion.
So hey, it is what it is.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
I think the craziest thing is there are people who like, you know, clip the private stuff.
It's like, you gave us all your private information.
You know what I mean?
Like, why would you do that?
unidentified
Right.
blaire white
And isn't it technically illegal?
tim pool
No, I mean, there's, there's, there's, there's some, uh, it's a civil case.
If they take proprietary behind the paywall and start leaking it stuff.
Oh, actually that might be.
blaire white
Yeah.
Cause there's people that take like people's maybe a Patreon exclusive content and you can actually go after them.
tim pool
Really?
Wow.
Well, anyway, become a member if you legitimately want to just watch the content which is available on the site, and we'll have that segment coming up in maybe about an hour or so.
But don't forget to check out my other YouTube channels, youtube.com slash TimCast, youtube.com slash TimCastNews.
We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m., so subscribe, hit that notification bell, smash that like button if you haven't already.
If you're listening on the podcast, make sure you leave us a good review and a comment, and you can follow me on... No, you know what?
You can follow me on Mines.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Mines.com slash TimCast where my videos are automatically posted and I'll start posting more there instead of these other garbage platforms.
But Blair, you want to mention your social media or anything?
blaire white
Yeah, please subscribe to me on YouTube.
Just search up Blair White.
I'm the only Blair White.
I'm on Twitter, Instagram.
It's Blair with an E. Everyone forgets that.
Yeah, just search me up anywhere.
I'm everywhere.
tim pool
Right on.
luke rudkowski
If we're getting into entertainment, sorry, I just want to kind of go off on a tangent here.
If we're going to go off to entertainment, my pitch is to get someone like Tim Dillon, Ryan Long, J.P.
Spears, Joey Betoons, What's Her Face, and let's create a new kind of mad TV satirical comedy to make fun of the establishment until they're so embarrassed they don't even want to go outside.
That would be my pitch.
I would love to see that.
That's just my idea.
A little brain fart I had to get out that I was kind of formulating here as you guys were talking.
Well, they're all invited.
They're all invited.
tim pool
We have a budget.
luke rudkowski
I love all of those guys and girls.
They do incredible work.
Check them out if you're interested.
And if you want to check me out and support me, you can on wearechange.org forward slash donate.
There's many different ways you could get involved with what I'm doing, but mainly I just release videos on youtube.com forward slash we are change.
We are change is the YouTube channel.
And thanks for checking me out on there.
ian crossland
You guys can follow me at Ian Crossland.
Hit me up on Twitch or follow me there at Ian Crossland.
It's twitch.tv slash Ian Crossland.
And you can also follow me on Mines.
I love that website.
lydia smith
Very cool.
ian crossland
At Ian Crossland.
blaire white
I'm on Mines too.
I forgot.
I'm on Mines.
lydia smith
She is.
unidentified
She is.
lydia smith
For sure.
For sure.
Follow Mines for sure.
I am Lydia.
I am Sour Patch Lids on Twitter.
I'm also on Mines and I'm Real Sour Patch Lids on Instagram and Gab.
Just so you guys know.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you all so much for hanging out for this episode of the TimCast IRL podcast.
I hope you check out TimCast.com because we will have a special members-only segment coming up in about an hour or so for all of you.
Thanks for hanging out, and we will see you all there.
unidentified
Bye, guys.
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