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Feb. 4, 2021 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Alexandria Ocasio SMOLLETT Trends #1 As Turns Out Her Story Was Fake w/Jack Murphy
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ian crossland
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jack murphy
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luke rudkowski
15:35
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tim pool
01:17:31
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lydia smith
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tim pool
Now that Donald Trump is no longer, you know, in office and the media is, you know,
is eternally desperate for something to talk about, they are starting to, for one, talk
about Trumpism, say Trumpism is fascism and a whole bunch of other just, who cares?
You know, look, man, Trump had his time and he might come back.
He may be a big player in the midterms and moving forward.
But for the time being right now, Joe Biden is the president.
Stop talking about Donald Trump.
They can't, though.
They're obsessed.
Well, something is taking the place of Donald Trump in a different way.
And it's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Why?
She's very much like Trump.
Now, obviously not politically, of course.
Not age-wise.
And Trump's an old white guy, and she's a young woman of color.
But when it comes to social media presence and the things they do, there are a lot of similarities.
The other day we talked about how the media was overly distracting us because of this ridiculous nonsense related to Ocasio-Cortez and the critics.
We actually have now a substantially more relevant story.
When AOC told her story about being in the Capitol riots and fearing for her life and the cop banging on the door, I said, look, I can respect it.
If you're scared and you've never experienced this, I'm not going to complain about that.
I get it.
I don't expect everyone to have experience in riots.
Well, it turns out her story isn't true.
So, uh, there you go.
Now trending at number one on Twitter is Alexandria Ocasio-Smollett.
No joke.
They are comparing her to Jesse Smollett, trending number one in the U.S.
on Twitter.
Maybe more, I don't know, but this is now a substantial political story.
Because it sounds like AOC was actually lying, and there's another video people pulled up where she contradicts her own story.
It's one thing to give a heartfelt, emotional story about you being scared and have people criticize you, and that's needless drama.
It's another thing when a very high-profile politician lies about what really happened in order to garner power and political support, and that makes it a much more substantive story, albeit Normally, I don't care for the drama, but there is a line, and I would say it's when we catch politicians in outright lies.
And so, I still kind of roll my eyes at talking about AOC, but that's the gist of the story.
But we do have a bunch of other stories.
The good news for Luke Rudkowski, who's here with us, is that he's now a person of color.
This is no joke.
I'm not kidding.
What is it, the Coalition of Communities of Color?
Is that what it's called?
lydia smith
I believe so, yes.
tim pool
They said that Slavic people, based on their determination and the oppression, now are people of color.
luke rudkowski
We're turning, uh, not just, we're not going to just do a segment about this.
I now proclaim that we're going to be talking about the, this just in the entire show.
So, uh, this is now the LukeCast IRL show.
Thanks so much for giving me over, uh, your show, Tim, and I appreciate it very much.
tim pool
Good point.
See, for a long time I said this is a minority-owned company because, you know, I'm part Asian.
But as you now know, Asians are no longer part of the people of color because it's BIPOC.
It's, you know, Black Indigenous People of Color.
They removed Asian from it.
So I'm out.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you're whiter than white.
tim pool
I'm double white.
luke rudkowski
Stand aside.
white. So excuse me, don't interrupt me. I'm speaking please.
jack murphy
Stand aside, give up positions of power for people of color.
luke rudkowski
Exactly. Thank you. Thank you, Jack. This changes everything
for me. If you want to support a minority people of color business, you can. We are change.org forward slash
unidentified
donate. As soon as I heard this, I had to check my credit You gotta go on Google and list your businesses.
luke rudkowski
I am.
We just found out about this right before the show, so I'm going to go after YouTube for discriminating against me and demonetizing my YouTube channel.
All the censorship efforts, it's on.
It's on like Donkey Kong.
And now, I mean, this changes everything.
lydia smith
I love it so much.
luke rudkowski
So, you guys are allowed to speak.
tim pool
Go ahead.
Okay, okay.
Well, we have a bunch of other news as well.
We do, yes.
Chris Pratt, they're trying to cancel Chris Pratt because someone made a bunch of fake tweets.
And I do think it's interesting, of course they're always trying to cancel somebody, but they're legit trying to get a dude pulled from his movies or whatever because someone made fake tweets of him.
And we're entering the deepfake era, so there's a lot we can talk about there for sure.
We got COVID is apparently disappearing.
unidentified
It's great.
tim pool
Down 44%.
Just gone.
No one knows why.
No, for real.
They're saying it's not vaccines, that we don't know what it is.
It's just all of a sudden it's going away.
And maybe, maybe Trump was right.
Remember when Trump said one day it's going to go away?
unidentified
One day.
lydia smith
After the election.
luke rudkowski
And it did when he did.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's, that's really interesting.
So, uh, you know, we'll get into these things.
And of course I mentioned Luke Rutkowski's here.
luke rudkowski
I am tweeting up a storm.
I'm going to be tweeting a lot more also on Instagram under Luke WeAreChange.
So look out for some crazy memes.
I just memed a really funny Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez meme.
lydia smith
Very good.
luke rudkowski
Definitely worth checking out.
And yeah, I also release videos.
I'm an independent media creator on the YouTube channel WeAreChange.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
We're hanging out with Jack Murphy.
As we normally do on Wednesdays.
jack murphy
What's up, everybody?
Glad to be here.
Jack Murphy at Jack Murphy Live on Twitter and Jack Murphy Live on YouTube.
Check it out.
New videos coming almost every single day now.
Come down, subscribe, please.
unidentified
And of course, Jack Murphy in the house.
Right.
jack murphy
Every other Wednesday.
ian crossland
I love it.
So have we completely jumped the shark here?
COVID's on its way out and Luke's, Luke's a colorful.
luke rudkowski
That's not jumping the shark.
unidentified
How dare you mock my designation, Ian?
luke rudkowski
Don't make me expel you from society.
ian crossland
Did I fall asleep for a hundred years?
What's?
lydia smith
I don't know.
I don't know what's happening right now.
ian crossland
I mean, this is great.
So I really want to go into this COVID story.
This is the biggest news in the universe right now.
luke rudkowski
There's also a very important announcement by the World Health Organization.
But we got a lot to get into.
So let's just get right into it.
And I think we also have one more person.
lydia smith
We do.
We have me in the corner pushing buttons.
I'm the Sour Patch Lids producer.
tim pool
She is pushing all the buttons.
And before we get started, make sure you go to TimCast.com and become a member, my friends, because censorship is a reality.
I mean, no joke.
In the event that we do get purged, we'll have our presence here at TimCast.com.
But in the meantime, we have bonus episodes.
We legit have a full...
Bonus hour where me you know, it was it was Ian Seamus and myself talking about life after death religion spirituality It's a very interesting conversation.
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I bring you now to twitter. Number one is Zio Smollett and number three is
Kyle Rittenhouse. We'll get into that later. It's a crazy day I guess. All sorts of drama. But
here's the actual big news from Red State. AOC wasn't even in the Capitol building during her
near-death experience. This isn't just one story, all right?
I mentioned this the other day, we ragged on the idea of the drama.
Because the drama was AOC was like, yo, the Capitol thing happened and I was scared, and I went, okay, I get it.
And then Michael Tracy was like, that's manipulation.
And then the media picked this up and made the story about Michael Tracy tweeting at AOC, and then The Young Turks is like, oh, SmackDown, and I'm like, dude, I don't care.
I don't care.
The news about AOC telling a story and then some journalist criticizing her, so what?
Well, the story today is actually substantially different.
AOC now has three big lies.
One, that she feared for her life.
This is the first thing she said.
I was scared.
I was gonna die that day.
The next, Ted Cruz, you almost had me killed.
And the third, I was terrified because the rioters were coming and, you know, the cop was banging on my door and I didn't know what was going on and I was hiding.
She wasn't even there.
Now she responded to this claim saying that's a smear taking advantage of people who don't understand the capital complex.
So Jack Posobiec posted an image showing that the building she was in was across the street.
It's not the same building.
jack murphy
But there's tunnels, Tim.
There's tunnels.
You don't know about the tunnels?
tim pool
I know about the tunnels.
jack murphy
No, that was her response.
tim pool
But they didn't go in the tunnels.
luke rudkowski
That was her response.
They're also connected through electricity, okay?
And this thing called Wi-Fi and Internet, I mean, they're all interconnected.
tim pool
So, I mean... They could have came through the phones, jumped out, who knows?
Now, look.
I refrain, for the most part, from criticizing parts of her story today because I don't want to get into the drama.
One of the aspects of her story was that while she was hiding from the mob, apparently, she had her staffers in the lobby, like, what, to confront the mob for her?
It's insane.
They should all have been hiding.
jack murphy
White people to the front!
tim pool
I don't even think the person was white.
But more importantly, it just wasn't a true story.
It was at best, in her case, a total embellishment.
That, okay, I get it.
People, they did evacuate the building where her office is.
And that was because there were concerns about maybe a bomb threat or something, but nothing to do with the rioters.
And so she's telling the story of her, like, pinned up against the wall, scared the rioters were coming.
Tons of news outlets actually wrote that the rioters were storming the building.
They didn't even fact-check any of this.
She wasn't even in the building.
luke rudkowski
Imagine the goal to understand that the country is so much in trouble, so divided.
And what do you do in that moment?
Look at me.
I almost died and he almost killed me.
I mean, that's absolutely insane.
There's a meme going around with her, that famous photo of her at the border where she kind of kneels down and she's crying.
And they kind of replaced it with her watching the TV of the Capitol riots.
And that meme is going around viral right now.
Because again, you have to understand here, you know, she also interjected.
This is not that she just talked about it randomly offhand.
She interjected when people were having a populist Reddit revolt on Wall Street with the Wall Street bets.
She interjected that with this particular story, which we're learning is just absolutely nonsensical.
jack murphy
So ask yourself, Was it spontaneous?
Was it deliberate?
Was it intended to bring attention back to the fact that there's been an insurrection and there's domestic terrorists?
And she's getting out in front now, messaging for a rollout of counter insurgency and counter domestic terrorism.
luke rudkowski
And censorship.
jack murphy
And censorship.
All kinds of things.
She has to keep the story alive, keep the emotion alive.
to lay down some groundwork for legislation and action.
Did you also happen to notice today that NPR and Reuters both running stories from Brennan
saying that we need to take the lessons that we learned from battling insurgents
in Iraq and Afghanistan and use those same tactics here against people in the United States?
luke rudkowski
NPR was running that story, interviewing a CIA agent that was a part of fighting counterinsurgency
And he's like, we need to do this, we need to go after Trump.
It's crazy.
tim pool
He literally said, this former CIA guy, to NPR, that we have to treat the people who follow Trump like ISIS or Al-Qaeda.
ian crossland
NPR, by the way, National Public Radio.
Not a national company.
It's a private company.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
It's a non-profit, I believe.
Yeah.
But they're now going to start bringing the domestic, the war on terror home.
Domestic.
Glenn Greenwald warned about it.
jack murphy
Of course.
tim pool
And I love it.
I love it.
No, no, no, no.
I'm saying I love the media scenario.
You gotta let me finish.
I love that all of a sudden you now have these leftists who claim to be anti-authoritarian Suckling the teat of the security state and cheering it on.
Cheering for 25,000 troops coming to D.C.
Cheering for a permanent green zone, barbed wire fences surrounding the Capitol.
Cheering for 5,000 National Guard permanently remaining in D.C.
Cheering for AOC as she manipulates and tells these hoax stories in order to generate the ability to swing public opinion.
To generate the swing in public opinion to support more authoritarian lockdown.
jack murphy
The tactics that they learned in Iraq and Afghanistan to manage an insurgency are things like this.
Hire local gangs to carry out assassinations.
Use bribery and intense incentives.
Use drone strikes in the middle of the night.
Just make people disappear.
luke rudkowski
We also have to understand this insane notion of an insurrection when the United States went there to their country.
They're not insurrecting against anything.
They're mad about guys coming into their country and then killing their people and then dropping drone bombs on them.
So how dare you even call them insurrectionists?
They're people who are fed up, who are wearing flip-flops, who don't even know where the United States is, or even the concept of the United States, most of them.
tim pool
You mean, you're talking about Afghanistan?
luke rudkowski
Yes, yes.
I mean, it's absolutely insane to understand, you know, the situation in Afghanistan from my personal friends who are vets, who are saying, a lot of these guys don't even know anything about the United States.
They don't even care about what we do.
They just want to live their life, and most of them are Goat herders.
ian crossland
I want to point out, the United States is an insurrection against the British monarchy.
Let that be remembered.
tim pool
Started as so.
But let me read the story from Red State.
They say, Newsweek even claimed that AOC, they said this, Ocasio-Cortez said that rioters actually entered her office, forcing her to take refuge inside her bathroom after her legislative director, Geraldo Bonilla Chavez, told her to hide, hide, run and hide.
And so I run back into my office, Ocasio-Cortez said.
I slam my door.
There's another kind of, like, back area to my office, and I open it, and there's a closet and a bathroom, and I jump into my bathroom.
It turns out, however, that wasn't true.
They had to fact-check and start retracting all this because it wasn't true.
They say, as it turns out, however, my colleague Banshee reported earlier, AOC said in her Instagram drama that the person who came to her office was a Capitol Police officer.
But she denigrated the officer who came to help, claiming he didn't feel right.
And that he was looking at her in all this anger and hostility.
They go into mention.
But a few important things to note that seem to have been left out of the whole story.
AOC wasn't even in the Capitol building where all the action was going down.
If she was in her office, she was in the Cannon building which is nearby, but a different building.
But of course, many didn't get the logistics and just assumed that she was in the Capitol building.
According to Rep.
Nancy Mace, a Republican from South Carolina, who has an office in the same hall as AOC, two doors away, there were never any rioters in their hall, so there was never any physical danger from the rioters coming in at any point.
AOC tells this story, making it seem like the rioters are coming, taking advantage of the fact that people don't know where her office is, not in the Capitol building.
And in response, we see this from her.
She said, Jack Posobiec tweeted the story.
AOC wasn't in the building.
AOC responds.
This is the latest manipulative take on the right.
They are manipulating the fact that most people don't know the layout of the Capitol Complex.
We were all on the Capitol Complex.
The attack wasn't just on the Dome.
The bombs Trump supporters planted surrounded our offices too.
AOC took advantage of the fact that people didn't know.
They didn't know when she said, oh, the rioters, and I was hiding in my office.
Most people just assumed her office was in the Capitol building.
ian crossland
I did.
tim pool
I did, too.
luke rudkowski
I did, too.
jack murphy
She's so high-profile, why not?
tim pool
Because she was telling this story about the riots and everything, I assumed that she was in this building.
When it turns out it's not true, and she was lying, she says, we're the ones, or Jack Posobiec, or the right are the ones, manipulating.
So here's what Jack Posobiec tweeted.
A picture from Google Maps.
Here's the U.S.
Capitol building, and then you can see, cross the street, and you have Katie Porter's office, and then you have, that's in the Longworth House office building.
Across the street from that is the Cannon House office building, where AOC is.
She was kitty-corner to the Capitol building.
In a different building.
They didn't go in the tunnels.
They went into the Capitol building.
When Jack pointed this out, Ayo said, what about the tunnels?
They weren't in the tunnels.
We know they weren't in the tunnels.
That wasn't the news story.
So it's a month later, and she comes out with another story, mind you, conveniently around the time that people are staging an insurrection, I'm doing air quotes, against Wall Street, and totally shifts the narrative, and we get into some stupid drama news cycle where they're just like, oh, Michael Tracy's a journalist and he said some mean things about her.
And the day goes by and everyone's like, you guys realize that she doesn't work in the Capitol building, right?
And then, I didn't bother to look into the story, you know why?
I didn't care to cover it.
jack murphy
Who cares?
tim pool
Yeah, silly drama, so she was scared.
Look, like I mentioned, AOC comes out and says I was scared, I say I respect that.
Look, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, look, Jack, you're 6'5 or whatever.
If you told me that you- you know, you weren't scared, I'd say, sounds about right.
And AOC's, you know, like, what, 5'7", and she's like a- you know, just a- she's a- she's a- not- no experience in this kind of situation.
I say, okay, she's scared.
Can we move on?
What's the point?
jack murphy
Yeah.
No, no use arguing whatsoever.
But my question to you guys, do you think that she just spontaneously sat down and started weeping on Instagram?
Or do you think that this was intentional?
tim pool
I think she's a sociopath.
ian crossland
It's always intentional.
luke rudkowski
Well, this is the thing.
Part of a larger agenda.
This is what we have to remember.
She also was photo-opped crying at a fence looking at an empty parking lot a couple months ago.
unidentified
That's very true.
luke rudkowski
So, I mean, the photo's very clear.
It was at the immigration camps.
There wasn't anything there.
It was an empty parking lot, and she's weeping and crying, and those photos went viral, and there was big stories about this.
And this is, again, rinse and repeat.
Use emotion and politics to skew anyone's rational thinking and critical thinking skills, which are out the door because we have a lady that's crying.
ian crossland
We have to do our what is it called we have to we have to you know white knight as best as we can and support her i love the meme where it's like a crudely drawn paintbrush meme and it says oh no she's crying quick burn the constitution that's the only way when i say it's always intentional what i mean is when you make internet videos there you're always doing it on purpose you never like
Accidentally, in your most vulnerable state, get online and make an internet video.
It's a process.
tim pool
Yes, and we've seen a ton of YouTubers do this, where they start filming themselves, and they're like, I'm just so sad, and I needed to tell you all.
It's like, you turn the camera on, and then started crying for the camera.
ian crossland
Breakup videos.
luke rudkowski
They're so annoying.
tim pool
AOC has really, like, taken this new internet drama culture of reality TV, much like Trump did from terrestrial television, bringing it into politics.
She's bringing the same kind of drama garbage nonsense reality TV from the internet into the political world, and it is gold.
It's platinum!
ian crossland
I think she knows what she's doing.
I think she's a careerist.
That's why I don't care to talk about her telling her story.
And then with the things you think they love you for you want to do more of and if you think they like you because
you're crazy you want to be crazier and then you want to be crazier and like try and top yourself and to see that in a
politician is terrifying.
tim pool
I think she knows what she's doing.
I think she's a careerist.
I think that's why I'm like I don't care to talk about her telling her story.
The fact that she's now Jussie Smollett at everybody and we all just assume she was in the Capitol building.
That's, that's huge.
luke rudkowski
Imagine if she went through what Rand Paul went through a couple of days ago when he went through a Black Lives Matter protest.
Wait, wait, wait.
jack murphy
Rand Paul.
I was there.
I saved him.
tim pool
What happened?
jack murphy
Yeah, Rand Paul at like two o'clock in the morning.
I was out on the protest.
It was the night of the Republican National Convention and they didn't have any security out in the street.
And I spent all night escorting people from the convention, from the White House back to their hotels, guiding them around rioters and mobs and stuff.
And as I was getting ready to leave, there was Rand Paul, and I went up to him, I'm like, dude, you can't be here.
And we bought some time and space, and we finally got some cops over there.
tim pool
He got attacked.
jack murphy
He got attacked.
tim pool
He got attacked because they said, why won't you support Breonna Taylor when he's literally the guy who wrote the Taylor Bill?
Yep, he wrote it.
But they assume, like, it's a Republican, get him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, it's Rand Paul, dude.
No, they don't like him.
They don't care.
jack murphy
Yeah.
tim pool
AOC comes out and talks about, you know, the first criticism she got for the story from a lot of people was, I wonder what the people who lost family members during the Black Lives Matter riots are thinking right now when you're claiming that, you know, you were scared for your life.
But think about how despicable this is now.
Not only are, you know, look, I don't like these games where they're like, well, the Black Lives Matter, you know, riots did all this damage, so you should be talking about them.
I don't like that.
You know why?
They're different things.
AOC is allowed to be like, yo, I was scared.
It has nothing to do with what happened with Black Lives Matter.
If you're mad that she didn't call it out, we can say, I'm so sorry this happened to you.
Like, I mean it sincerely.
It's a horrible thing.
And I'll get your back.
My only request is just to pay attention to other people who feel similarly.
I don't think it's a one-up game.
But now I'm pissed.
Because now it's not only does she defend... Well, protests are supposed to make people uncomfortable.
Not only does Kamala Harris bail out these rioters who burn down cities, literally got people killed.
AOC now fabricates the story of, you know, what went down.
I actually have one tweet where someone actually points out that AOC even changed her story day over day, where first, she was saying that she didn't go to the extraction point because she was worried about the other Congress people.
And I did a big segment about this on my main channel, about how the Democrats are scared Republicans will kill them, because AOC was saying, I'm worried about what they'll do to me.
She was telling how, you know, during the Capitol riots, I didn't want to go with the Republicans and be in the same place with them.
Later, she's now saying that maybe she didn't get the extraction point information because the officer was withholding it.
Like, the story changed a month later.
She is purposefully turning on her livestream and telling a sob story.
My question is, you bring up a good point, Jack.
Why is she bringing this up right now?
It's been a month.
And she goes, they're trying to tell me to move on.
I'm not telling you to move on.
I'm wondering why it is you purposefully chose to start a late-night primetime livestream telling a fake story.
Exaggerating what went down and denigrating the cop who actually tried to save your life.
If it was true that you were in the Capitol building like everyone assumed, and maybe it's not her fault because people just assumed it, but that could be... It's a manipulation tactic to leave out key details to make people assume things.
I don't know if she has the savvy to actually pull that off.
Maybe she does.
lydia smith
But I think she does.
I think she's extremely cynical.
I don't think people give her enough credit.
I think we think she's silly and ditzy.
I think she's incredibly cynical.
And the fact that she brought in the like the race of the people who are being affected, like treating the cop like he was after her because her skin tone, if like that's something intense for when you're feeling super emotional.
tim pool
If she's telling us this story about rioters coming to get her, it was bad enough she was insulting the cop who was risking his life to save her when another cop already lost his life.
Now it turns out this cop was probably just walking through an empty building, and he probably knocked on the door, probably not even that bad, and said, oh, where is she?
Oh, you can come out.
ian crossland
Go to Katie Porter's office.
What's up with the bombs?
I heard about bombs surrounding the complex.
tim pool
Yeah, there were pipe bombs, I guess, right?
ian crossland
She never said she was in the Capitol building, from what I know.
So she didn't overtly lie to people.
She just omitted information, assuming that people knew.
tim pool
No, no, but now she's saying, when Jack Posobiec put out the story, she's like, this is misinformation.
They don't understand the Capitol complex.
She's trying to defend the idea that she was at the Capitol.
luke rudkowski
And the mainstream media was running with the story.
She was at the Capitol, many of them.
And if you're in that position, you're supposed to fix them.
You're supposed to correct them as the person who's telling the story.
So people don't assume.
tim pool
But not only that.
She may not have said, I was in the Capitol building.
She was telling a story about how the rioters were potentially coming for her and she was hiding from them.
They weren't, they were across the street in a totally different building.
ian crossland
But she didn't know.
It was just madness and chaos, so she didn't know where they were.
luke rudkowski
Likely.
tim pool
She knew they weren't in the building.
ian crossland
And when you say if you're at the Capitol complex, you're at the Capitol.
Even if you're not in the Capitol building, you're still at the Capitol is the way I think the phrase is irrelevant, bro.
jack murphy
Look, look, I was I wasn't at the Capitol building that day, but I was downtown.
I was on Pennsylvania Avenue.
I saw what was going on.
I felt the energy, dude.
Even I could tell that there was something off.
Right.
There was energy in the air that wasn't usually there.
And it was unsettling to me.
And as I get in the reports of the riots at Capitol, I was like, I'm not, I'm not going down there.
So I can understand if she was uncomfortable.
I totally can.
The lying.
I even understand that people embellish she's on Instagram.
She's just talking in her heart and whatever, but the timing and why now?
Why now at the same time as all this news about domestic counterintelligence or counterterrorism and battling insurgencies and doubling down on people being terrorist groups and insurgents and suppression of civil rights and coming after people and de-Trumpification?
I think it's smokescreen.
I think it's meant to get us to do this.
Why didn't she talk about it and talk about it instead of being more focused on what the CIA and the FBI and everybody are going to do?
tim pool
But I disagree.
We talked about this the other day.
We're literally talking about the CIA and the FBI in this context and how it's dangerous that AOC's emotional story, which is fabricated, is a manipulation tactic that will allow the federal government to expand national security powers.
And shout out to Rashida Tlaib once again for being the one person who says we can't allow the government to expand their security powers on this.
Meanwhile, AOC is the one who's feeling the fire to do it.
jack murphy
Do you think that that signifies a crack in the squad?
tim pool
You know, honestly, I look back at a lot of the news, and I don't know if Rashida Tlaib was always completely in alignment, more so that they were kind of fellow travelers in a sense, that their interests aligned for the time being.
And I'm not gonna be able to pull up all of the other examples where I've been like, oh, that's interesting that Rashida Tlaib wasn't agreeing with AOC on this one, but notably the Omnibus spending bill.
Rashida Tlaib voted against that, and so did Tulsi Gabbard.
And I said, wow, that's really cool of Rashida Tlaib.
That was the right move.
More Republicans voted no on it.
Tulsi Gabbard voted no on it.
I wish, you know, more people voted no on it.
luke rudkowski
What would be amazing is to have her on the show.
So if anyone knows her and has connections to Rashida Tlaib, please come down.
Please message us.
We would love to have you, and I think that would be an awesome, amazing, important conversation.
tim pool
I've probably said some very disparaging things about her in the past.
Like, very critical.
Even better.
luke rudkowski
We'll be fair, like we are to everyone else, but she's obviously providing a perspective that's very critically important, and for a wider audience to understand that, I think is critical right now.
tim pool
I look at what AOC is doing as extremely destructive, and the drama politics, the snapback, clapback stuff is really, really bad for our political environment.
It's gotta be called out, it's gotta be talked about.
jack murphy
Get used to it, bro.
tim pool
This is the future.
Yes, absolutely.
It is reality TV politics.
It's idiocracy.
And Trump is to blame for a lot of it as well.
But Trump didn't create it.
AOC didn't create it.
It's a natural byproduct of humans...
ian crossland
I actively tried to create it in 2007.
I would make YouTube video blogs talking about becoming the president, using internet video to interact, where you don't need secret service.
You can have leaders from around the world on Skype together.
tim pool
But we're not talking about that.
ian crossland
We're talking about Barack Obama getting him up as the first internet president.
tim pool
I'm obsessed with it.
What we're talking about is instead of saying, let's do a live show where the president can talk to the constituents about new healthcare policy, it's more like, I'm running for the Democratic Party because Jack Murphy's a moron!
unidentified
Burn!
tim pool
Yo, high five me, Luke!
Yeah!
Jack, what do you got to say to that?
I just roasted you on TV.
Vote for me.
jack murphy
There's going to be a lot of that.
And I think that Trump and AOC are similar in that both of them, this is my take, are following their instincts.
And it's not as proactive and deliberate as people might ascribe to them.
I don't give either one of them that much credit.
I just think that they're being themselves.
Going with the flow, feeling the energy, right?
I mean, social media people, you know what the energy's like.
You put something out, you get the energy back.
You're like, all right, dude, just like you're saying, you do more of that.
Like, I know exactly what kind of topics get high engagement from me on Twitter.
I know which ones that don't.
I still do ones that don't because it's true to me.
But if you're just following the energy, it's being drawn out of them as well.
tim pool
You're right.
For AOC, And for Trump, you know, Trump would tweet up a storm and he'd switch.
We long talked about how there would be some drama or a lawsuit, for instance.
There was a really funny moment where Trump changed the asylum rules, and it was the one time no one cared about Trump's moves towards, like, immigration.
Why?
Because he tweeted the squad should go back to where they came from and then come back or whatever.
Trump knew he could tweet and shift the focus away from the things he was working on, and he did.
You're right, I think AOC knows how to generate press attention.
Gain more followers, you got 12.2 million.
And I think for channels like this, look, you'll get a lot of grifters.
People who similarly know what they can talk about in order to generate a ton of press.
Dude, we'd all be better off playing Minecraft, doing scare vlogs, you know, like jump scares and pranks.
It does so much better.
And so it's weird to me that there are people who are grifters who choose politics as their path, really, because it's like, bro, you could just make Minecraft videos and do better.
If you applied yourself in the same way, the hard work, you would be the biggest video game Fortnite, you know, Call of Duty, whatever channel.
You streamed it.
Politics is not where you want to go for this stuff.
Politicians, however, it's exactly the game they have to play.
And then they need other people to prop them up.
So there is an element when it comes to political commentary from left or right of propping up the politicians they like and trying to win some political battle.
But I truly believe that right now, the space we are in has nothing to do with politics.
That's why they say, you know, Tim Pool is far-right or whatever, even though I'm like, I like universal healthcare with private supplemental insurance.
That's a right-wing position, apparently.
But it's because I'm critical of their tribe.
So it's really just tribal politics.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
AOC can lie and be caught, and they will defend her and say, you're far-right.
Truth be told, Donald Trump even said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose a voter because it was very tribal.
Now, truth be told, I think in the precursor to this new era, Trump was pushing policies people liked.
And because of that, he generated a large tribal base, which expanded into a tribal base specifically.
But a lot of people supported Trump on his policy.
Notably, I did.
I voted for him because of school choice, because of his later attempts to withdraw from Afghanistan and the Abraham Accords, etc.
But now what I think we're going to be moving into as Trump leaves with AOC now getting 12.2 million followers is going to be absolute drama YouTube style.
She'll make a video being like, you know, Ted Cruz, he was saying this, Ted Cruz, I challenge you to a rap battle.
And then Ted Cruz is going to come out and be like, yo, AOC, what up?
Let's rap.
And it's going to get ridiculous.
Not really Ted Cruz.
unidentified
Could be, though.
luke rudkowski
Ted Cruz is already playing basketball with Jimmy Kimmel.
tim pool
Boom.
There you go.
luke rudkowski
So it's already happening.
It's already here.
And the bastardization of just the media space just to get the clicks, just to get the attention, just to get the Paris Hilton PR model running, which is essentially what we're on.
And again, we have to look.
I've been saying this.
I sound like a broken clock.
It's a lot to do with the algorithms.
tim pool
You sound like a broken clock?
jack murphy
I had to laugh at that.
luke rudkowski
Potato, potato.
You know what I'm trying to say here.
unidentified
Yes.
I have to laugh at myself here.
luke rudkowski
Again, where we're going to is just idiocracy times ten, but I think a lot of this is incentivized by the big tech algorithms, the big tech oligarchs who are controlling what we see, controlling what's popular, controlling what we don't see, and I think that perspective is essentially really, really critically important moving forward because that power is everything.
ian crossland
The Cortez obviously had this moment where she was like, I know that the Robin Hood scandal is going on, I know that I could talk about the SEC and the banking industry getting involved with Wall Street and messing up these people's careers, but I'm feeling this, so I need to talk about what I'm feeling.
And that is very selfish.
You don't have to talk about what you're feeling.
Sometimes you want to not talk about what you're feeling and talk about other things that are more important.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, if you're a representative, you're supposed to represent other people, not just yourself and talk about yourself and be self-censored and egotistical when you're supposed to be talking about the suffering of all the other people who are not doing good, who are downtrodden, who are being screwed over time and time again, whose wages are going down, whose wealth is going down, all because of a broken system that you're now literally taking selfies in front of being like, well, don't I look pretty?
tim pool
AOC is Lil Trump.
unidentified
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
I've been saying it for a long time.
The people who follow her aren't cheering on her policies because what are her policies?
Green New Deal.
Explain to me what the Green New Deal is.
I mean it literally.
Because I'm in favor of a Green New Deal.
No joke.
I did a whole video on it two years ago when AOC was talking about Green New Deal.
I was like, this is actually really cool.
And I pulled up a poll that said 85% of people support the idea of Green New Deal.
You know why?
Yeah.
Of course.
Yes, agree.
I agree with that.
deal. Should the government allocate more resources into investing in, developing and
expanding renewable energies?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
What do you think, Jack?
jack murphy
Yes, agree. I agree with that.
tim pool
Yeah. Do you think so, Luke?
Sure. Sure.
luke rudkowski
You're against taxation.
I don't like any government doing anything.
tim pool
So, 85% of people are like, absolutely.
Look, understanding existing in the confines of the existing taxation system, the U.S.
government has tons of our money, and we think they should allocate more towards green energy renewal projects and things like that, expanding technology, investing, Solyndra was a disaster.
But people are still like, hey, look man, we're trying to do something cool and good and new.
Instead, we get foreign aid packages in the billions of dollars, trillions of dollars, and AOC's Green New Deal.
What is it?
Well, according to Sycat Chakrabarty, her former chief of staff, it has nothing to do with the environment.
It's all about reshaping the U.S.
economy.
It was about creating gender studies programs.
It was about getting guaranteed college for people of color.
nothing to do with the New Deal.
With renewing, look we've got crumbling bridges and crumbling roads, crumbling infrastructure,
and we want to help push America towards more energy independence.
And what I should say is, more advanced energy independence to secure our position as an
energy independent nation.
I like the idea of the investment.
What AOC proposes isn't that.
So I look at what people are talking about with AOC and they can't... What are they really supporting?
Did she force Nancy Pelosi to put a floor vote on Medicare for All?
No!
She just blindly voted for her!
She's not doing anything to actually help progressives other than be a tribal avatar for the tribe.
luke rudkowski
And what is she calling for?
She's calling for big tech censorship.
She's calling for the eroding of civil liberties.
She's calling for a bigger police state that, of course, will, of course, rein in on supposed domestic terrorism threats.
She's talking about a new Patriot Act 2.0.
I mean, these are policies that, of course, go completely against helping individuals.
What actually does help people?
Well, it's none of the policies that, of course, AOC is pushing right now, in my opinion.
jack murphy
It seems to me that there's an algorithm we're not talking about right now, and it's the one that's in our head.
We have an algorithm.
We are predetermined to react to certain things.
She is hacking our human algorithms.
tim pool
Much like Trump did.
jack murphy
Much like Trump.
Much like anybody who's successful with social media in a competition for attention.
It's the attention economy.
You gotta get attention.
How do you get attention?
You appeal to people's emotions.
You put that out there, you trigger those empathetic reactions and the byproduct of getting attention in a positive way, because there is positive ways of doing it, but the byproduct of doing this is we're just splitting into these empathetic tribes.
You can watch the same thing with two different people.
You take away two different outcomes, two different perspectives.
And you can't understand at all what the other person is saying.
I tweeted something about this today.
Jack Posobic retweeted me.
So I got, I got the Jack Posobic tidal wave of comments and he has a lot of haters, bro.
And the people that were responding and the hate, the hate camp, man, they can't see it.
And they think that we're all just monsters and devils and terrible people.
Cause we, cause we think she's manipulating us.
tim pool
Here's what I love.
So there's this big battle going on between Marjorie Taylor Greene, you know, and the Democrats.
They want her removed from her committees for things she has said previously that are fairly, you know, insane and bombastic.
Don't get me wrong.
And it was reported that, you know, Kevin McCarthy, minority leader in the House, was negotiating with her to, like, take her off one committee.
I just responded with, Republicans are such pathetic losers.
Now think about the context of that.
Democrats demand Marjorie Taylor Greene be removed from all committees, but Kevin McCarthy says only one.
And then I called Republicans pathetic losers.
The immediate assumption from a bunch of these leftists was, why are you defending Marjorie Taylor Greene?
And I said, what did I say in her defense?
It's a tribal assumption.
What if my point was that instead of just booting her off her committees, the Republicans were refusing and kowtowing to QAnon, and that's why I was calling them pathetic losers.
I just called them losers, and immediately the tribal assumption was I was in defense of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
jack murphy
I don't mean to call out your methods, but you do tweet those vague, mirror-projecting tweets all the time.
You mean, like, vague... Like, as in, it's like the magic mirror.
It's like, whatever people respond reveals the way they interpret it.
tim pool
That's literally why I did it.
jack murphy
And it's effective.
tim pool
But the truth was, I don't care if the Republicans kick her off her committees or don't, regardless, they are pathetic losers.
They're Republican politicians.
So I was like, I don't care.
I figured it was something everybody would agree with.
Right?
Either you're a Republican who says, why are they coming after Marjorie Taylor Greene and bowing down to the Democrats, or you're a Democrat saying, why won't they remove this crazy woman?
Either way, they're spineless, pathetic losers who can't just make a decision.
They're like, what do we do?
What if we only hurt her a little?
What if we only strip her a little bit?
It's like, pick one, dude.
Either you're with the Democrats and you're saying she's bad, or you stand up for people who just got elected to your party.
Spineless.
I don't care if they keep her on or they don't keep her on.
I think she said crazy stuff, and I understand why people are mad about it.
I think there's been Democrats who've said crazy stuff.
Maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene said some crazier, crazier stuff online.
But regardless, pick one.
They can't even do that.
Whose side are they on?
You know, the Republicans just love to do whatever they're told in a very pathetic and weak way.
It's fairly sad.
But no, you bring up a good point.
I almost always make these magic mirror tweets, as you call them.
The goal is, whatever tribe someone's on, they see what they want to see.
And it's hilarious to watch them react to it.
You know, I gotta say, it's Michael Malice, man.
I learned from the best.
I didn't come up with this stuff.
ian crossland
It's hilarious to, like, kick over an anthill and watch the ants scramble.
Kind of.
tim pool
You misunderstand.
You're a psychopath.
jack murphy
Yeah, but he's not destroying anyone.
ian crossland
No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
Well, you're like finding joy in their suffering and confusion.
tim pool
Who's suffering?
ian crossland
These people that are answering him to their own craziness.
tim pool
I genuinely think that Republicans are pathetic, spineless losers, and I kept it fairly vague so that it wasn't overtly descript towards a particular individual.
ian crossland
But, like, you also made a video about it where you went deeper into it.
I heard you lead a video earlier today.
Republicans are spineless losers.
You actually called them losers in a video.
tim pool
Absolutely.
ian crossland
And that was a way for you to explain it.
But in the tweet, it's like a vague, and people are freaking out.
So what?
Well, it seems like you enjoy watching people freak out to vague tweets.
I don't look at the notifications.
tim pool
I don't go and check what people are saying, responding to, for the most part.
unidentified
You did.
ian crossland
Were you just talking about the response?
tim pool
Yeah, it was a guy who was immediate response to me after I tweeted it was like, you know, you are clearly supporting Marjorie Taylor.
ian crossland
It's so weird because I completely stopped doing that, doing vague tweets.
I'm trying to be as specific in tweets as possible so that I don't confuse people.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's impossible.
It's literally impossible.
People will just tweet nasty things for no reason.
I mean, look at Seth Rogen.
Do you see the Seth Rogen-Jonathan Kaye interaction?
Jonathan Kaye, who... He's Quillette, isn't he?
Jonathan Kaye is... I'm not super familiar with what his exact title would be, but he writes for Quillette.
And he tweeted a joke about something.
Do you remember what it was, Jack?
jack murphy
I don't.
lydia smith
It was shampoo.
tim pool
Oh yes, that's right.
He was using dog shampoo.
So he tweeted this joke.
It was a silly little joke where he was like, for the longest time I've been using dog shampoo and didn't realize until I went to the store and tried to buy it and then noticed in big bold letters it says pet shampoo and I should have realized.
And Seth Rogen responded with like, you're stupid.
Something like that.
And he responded with like, okay, I'm making a silly joke as a self-deprecating humor and Seth Rogen was like so what I said you're stupid That's the point of Twitter.
That's why you don't use Twitter legitimately.
No matter what you say, you passively make a joke where you are deriding yourself in silly humor, targeting no one, and a multi-millionaire celebrity will insult you for no reason!
None whatsoever!
So I don't give specific tweets.
I see the Republicans.
I see what they're doing.
Instead of me writing out 500 paragraphs explaining everything wrong with Republicans, I say, these people are spineless losers.
They won't stand up for anything.
They don't defend anything.
They just say, well, we'll do a little bit of what you want, Democrats, and then not do anything.
ian crossland
But not all of them, right?
tim pool
99%.
Yeah, you got Thomas Massie's cool, Rand Paul's cool.
Josh Hawley's pretty cool.
Ted Cruz is okay.
lydia smith
Dan Crenshaw's pretty cool.
tim pool
Well, I disagree with Dan Crenshaw on a lot of things, but I think he's an alright guy.
I just really disagree with him on a lot of things.
luke rudkowski
See, I just post a bunch of memes and we have to, we have to remember social media is not real life, but it's becoming real life.
And a lot of the nastiness is incentivized again, uh, by the algorithm.
Uh, when you do have that drama, when you do have that thing, again, we're talking about this again, from the very beginning, it's all about emotions.
If you're able to spark a negative one, they've done psychological studies showing that gets more of your attention that, that spurs the fight or flight, uh, reflexes.
And, uh, here we are, you know, we're talking about the same thing.
tim pool
So, I used to work for these non-profits.
This is now almost 14 years ago.
I did fundraising for non-profits, and it was street canvassing.
You guys know those people on the street that are waving to you, saying, like, you have a minute to talk about the environment or whatever.
luke rudkowski
That you don't want to have eye contact with?
tim pool
Yes.
Because if you have eye contact, they got you.
But I'll tell you guys a secret technique.
You know what a secret technique is?
I could get anybody in the world to stop for me.
Anyone in the world.
You want to know what the trick is?
ian crossland
Breakdancing.
Nope.
luke rudkowski
Trip them.
tim pool
You don't ask them anything.
You just hold out your hand.
You walk up to them, stand in front of them, and you hold out your hand to shake it.
And then once you're shaking your hand, you say, I'm going to talk to you about the environment and why you're helping.
ian crossland
It's the same way if you meet a girl and you want to get intimate.
tim pool
No, no, no, you're wrong.
ian crossland
You start off with physical contact.
tim pool
That's not it.
It's that I'm physically holding them and they can't leave.
luke rudkowski
And then you get pepper sprayed.
ian crossland
There's that too.
tim pool
But I'm shaking their hand.
You see, it's a clever high-pressure sales tactic.
I'm talking about you.
ian crossland
That came out of a little psycho, what I said.
tim pool
You grab their hand and you shake it, and they can't walk away while you're talking to them.
And then with your other hand, you hand them your clipboard, they grab it, and then you let go, and then you put your hands, you hold your hands to your side.
Now they're physically holding your property.
They'll try and hand it to you, but they can't leave as long as they're holding it.
Anyway, I digress.
When I worked at these offices, they would have these events where they would mass purge the entire office, firing 40 to 50 people in a single day, because demoralization is like a virus.
So you have 40 or 50 people, and you need them doing sales for a cause, which means they have to be passionate and positive.
They go out in the street and they say, dude, I need your help right now.
We gotta save the world, man.
I believe in you.
Do you believe in me?
Let's do this.
Give me your credit card.
Now, how much money am I taking from you?
So getting people to feel good was paramount.
There's also ways where you can make people feel regret or loss and make them feel a sense of urgency to get them to donate.
But what happens when the fundraiser, the canvasser, can't do it?
They get frustrated.
They get really close to that sign-up, that membership, and they fail.
Now they're getting frustrated and angry.
They try again, but that frustration persists.
Now the people who are walking up to them see this angry person with a furrowed brow, and they're like, I don't want to talk to you.
You're nasty and pissed off.
That person comes back to the office.
Their friends say, how was your day?
It was awful, dude!
People are such awful people!
I hate this place!
And then the other people feel that negativity.
The negativity starts to spread like a virus.
So all of these offices, what they would do is, they would have, no joke, 40 to 50 people in the office, all training, and they would do debriefs at the end of every day when people come back to the office, and they would ask you, how was your day?
If too many people said negative things, they would immediately fire every single person to stop the spread of the negativity virus.
ian crossland
You're making me think.
tim pool
And then rehire an entirely new team in the next week.
ian crossland
The negativity virus is in Congress.
tim pool
Oh, absolutely, but it's on social media.
ian crossland
And it can't, unless we get rid of all of them, it's going to persist.
tim pool
No, I'm not talking about Congress.
ian crossland
People that have been there still have it.
tim pool
I'm talking about Twitter.
On Twitter, you have people who are overtly negative, being negative to other people, spreading around a negativity demoralization mind virus.
So one of the stories I like to tell is about how I was getting a cab from New York.
I was in Manhattan.
As people in New York know this, New York cabbies in Manhattan will not go to Brooklyn, because they got crazy rules.
Yellow cabs can't pick people up in Brooklyn.
Green cabs don't pick people up in Manhattan.
So if you're in Manhattan, the cabbie pulls up, what they'll do is they'll crack their window a little bit.
And then they'll say, where are you going?
They're not allowed to do this, it's illegal.
You'll say, Brooklyn, and they'll peel out.
So you gotta say, you gotta give them a fake address or something, get in, and then as soon as you're in there, go, oh, actually, I mean Brooklyn, and they get really mad.
Well, so I had a cab pick me up, and I didn't lie to him, he just pulled over, I got in the car, and he says, where are you going?
I said, I'm going to Williamsburg, and he got really angry, and the entire ride from Manhattan to Brooklyn, which is a decent ride, he was just driving like a jerk, he was cussing, he was angry, complaining, I gotta drive to Brooklyn, blah, and just mad at me the whole time, and I didn't say anything to him.
And then when I got out of the car, I gave him 100% tip.
I doubled the money.
And as the receipt's printing, all of a sudden he just was like, oh, thank you, thank you so much!
Bless you and your family!
And I was like, hey man, I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to bring me to Brooklyn.
I know you can't pick people up, so hopefully this gets you back to keep working.
And I hope that you bring a positive light to other people.
Because now that guy feels bad, for one, about being mean to me, because I hooked him up.
But more importantly, I wasn't trying to make him feel bad.
He's happy.
He's like, dude, I was in for a bad day and this dude just covered the cost of my trip back to Manhattan.
Here's the point.
The next person who gets in that vehicle is going to see a smiling, happy guy who's going to be like, don't worry about it, buddy.
I got you.
Today's a good day.
ian crossland
So rather than try and combat the negativity, you let them be angry and then still give them positivity.
tim pool
You create a positivity mind virus.
You spread the joy.
This guy who was angry at me, I could have been angry at him.
I could have said, you know what, no tip for you because you were mean.
And then I'll say, ah, get out of my, screw you.
And the next person who gets in that cab is going to be like, hi, I'm just getting off of work.
And he's like, I don't care, where are you going?
And dude, why are you mad at me?
Now, now that guy, the passenger is going to get angry.
I don't want to spread that mind, that evil, that anger, that rage.
I was like, this guy was mean to me, but you know what?
It's not about me.
It's what the next person is going to get in this cab having a bad day.
So I want this guy to have a good day.
I don't know why he's mad.
Maybe something bad happened to him.
Maybe he lost his son.
Maybe he stubbed his toe.
Whatever.
Here's a good day for you, buddy.
I hope this changes things and makes you feel better.
And now, he has a good day, and he spreads that good day to others.
Social media is full of negativity mind viruses.
So I try very hard, very often, To have semi-neutral or just like non-direct tweets at individuals.
I don't like tweeting at people saying very direct and harsh things.
I don't do that because all it does is spread that mind virus.
And that's why when I had that moment with Frank Luntz, the pollster, I simply asked him a question, he snapped at me, insulted me, said I wasn't a journalist.
I'm like, dude, what's with the hostility, man?
I just asked you a question.
Like, what's wrong with people, dude?
Twitter has created a negativity demoralization hive mind that everyone is getting sucked into and it's making them nasty, awful people.
ian crossland
And it's even bigger.
It's text communication that's confusing people, I think.
luke rudkowski
Well, you know, energy is contagious.
And I'm surprised you don't know this, Ian, or you don't have a t-shirt that says this.
ian crossland
Let's make a t-shirt.
luke rudkowski
Your vibe is your tribe.
So that, you know, we see a lot of hippies saying this.
This is why I try to stay usually as stupid optimistically as I can, because essentially it's a choice.
And at the end of the day, we all have a choice where we invest our energy and our mindset into.
And what you bring up is critically important, because when faced with negativity, you could either be engulfed by it and represent it, or you could choose to defeat it back with positivity.
So I think the story that you shared, you told me it before a couple years ago, I think it's a very important one that people should know about.
tim pool
Here's my advice to people.
You're on Twitter.
You're seeing people tweet.
Resist the urge at all costs to be mean to them.
If someone says something mean to you, say, you know what I would say?
I say to people online very often on Facebook in these arguments, I'll say something and I'm never hostile.
I'll try and actually be accommodating.
And when they start insulting and attacking me, I'll say, I don't understand why you're being so mean to me.
ian crossland
And you know, yesterday you read a super chat, you were like, it's a negative one for you, Ian.
Do you want to hear it?
In retrospect, maybe I'll say no, don't publicize those.
But I had this urge to snap back and say something really mean.
And all that would have done is tainted the night.
And I didn't.
I just held it in.
I got a lot of really nice comments today from people regarding that experience.
So there's another example of it.
jack murphy
Tim, what you're talking about is operating on a higher level of mindfulness, right?
And intentionality.
And that's something that I want for everybody.
Intentionality is a superpower today.
People who are conscious about where they put their attention, their focus, and their energy are going to be more successful than people, happier, more successful than people who bob along the currents.
Right.
Most of our country is sick because they're bobbing along the current.
They are fat and they listen to the current of the nutrition pyramid.
They're in debt because they listen to the current of going to school.
They're slaves to a corporate wage job because they listen to mindfulness and intentionality are a superpower today.
Now, I want to just share one story that is maybe a bright spot here.
You know, when I tweet about Antifa and conflict and riots, I get a ton of engagement.
Of course, when I tweet about my nerdy, philosophical, philosophical stuff, I don't get as much engagement, but it's important to me.
So I do.
But every so often I tweet about my kids and I tweet about being a father and stories of fatherhood and stories of my son becoming a man and the things that we've learned and taught and his experiences.
And I gotta tell you, of all the things that I've had go viral and everything, it's the stories about my son growing up as a man that have done the best.
Millions and millions and millions of views.
Tweeted all over Africa.
I had princes in Africa responding.
It just bonkered town.
Millions and millions of views.
Famous in my universe are snow shoveling threads and the baseball threads and things like that.
And even my pin tweet thread on my profile has been seen by millions of people.
It's a crazy story about positivity.
And at the end, people said that they're like cheering.
So there is certainly a vibe out there that you can latch into of positive energy of growth.
There's a whole growth mindset Twitter out there.
I think perhaps the political sphere on Twitter is very nasty, but there are subcultures and
and sub and niches all across Twitter that are about positivity.
They're about mindfulness.
They're about parenting.
They're about your values are about finding people that share your values.
So I agree.
I've seen it.
If I wanted to have 10,000 more followers, I tweet about riots in Antifa all day.
Uh, but truly the stuff about my son generates the most positive energy and, and it brings me the most joy as well.
luke rudkowski
And that's usually something that we don't see.
That's usually something that doesn't go viral.
But when it does, it's extremely powerful.
And there's a residency.
There's something else more to it than just the plain kind of text out there.
And it's not just positivity.
One of the things that I really wanted to bring up is gratitude.
I've been doing a gratitude journal almost every day for eight years now.
I write down five things I'm always grateful for at the end of the day right before I go to sleep just so I could you know you know hippies talk about manifestation you know a lot of work people talk about creating especially in the entrepreneur sphere but but reminding yourself hey we are extremely lucky we are extremely blessed especially to live in the Western world especially to I mean if you make $30,000 you are pretty much the 1% of the world you are yeah So when we look at it from that perspective, instead of the perspective of what we're lacking, of what we don't have, we don't have the latest PlayStation 5, we don't have this, this is the marketing schemes of these multinational corporations that use these psychological tricks to make you feel empty, to make you feel sad.
There was also, you know, some of the things that I started bringing up and looking into is just how they do it.
There was even specific restaurants that used to play sad music whenever they had a dip in business because they knew people would get sad and what would they do?
They would stuff their miseries with a big cheeseburger in their face.
So these kind of psychological tricks are used on social media to extreme levels and I think this is why we are seeing depression Suicides, self-harm, and all these negative mental health effects from social media that are utilizing this at a record level and creating very severe consequences that we're going to have to deal with.
Sadly, there's no person that could speak out against it because the algorithm will downvote it because the multinational corporations won't be making any money off of it.
tim pool
The Seth Rogen aspect of the story is really the craziest thing to me.
That you could be wildly successful, funny guy on TV, his movies are always a laugh and a hoot and a good time, I'm a big fan, and then just see how, like, there's this weird, I don't know, negativity possession of the man where he goes on Twitter and he's just...
Awful to people.
ian crossland
It's like, he's just so mean to people.
Negative comedy sometimes can sell if you say it in a sarcastic way, but it's when you're, you're vibing, you're, you know, your voice is vibrating the other people.
But when you write it down, forget about it.
tim pool
But that's not a joke.
He just said, Jonathan Kaye, you're stupid.
ian crossland
I could see his character in a movie being like, you're stupid.
And you know, like that.
And the audience would be like, oh yeah.
jack murphy
But it's not a character.
It's him.
It's a human being.
It's a person.
It's a verified person.
It's him being a jerk.
tim pool
Why would someone who's so extremely wealthy who could do whatever and is so successful just go on Twitter and insult someone like that?
I mean, tons of people do.
It's not just him.
jack murphy
It's a good example that money and fame certainly don't ensure happiness and contentment or gratitude or mindfulness or appreciation.
Luke, I want to go back to something that you said a minute ago about hippies talk about manifestation.
Well, then call me a hippie dude, because I believe in manifestation.
I believe in the power of personal narrative.
I believe that the story that you tell yourself can change the world around you.
It changes you.
It changes the way people perceive you.
It changes the opportunities that come your way.
It changes the way you perceive the universe and data and information and the stories that we tell ourselves are the most important thing that I live by one simple motto, you are the imagination of yourself.
ian crossland
Yes!
luke rudkowski
I believe it was, who said that?
I think it was Bill Hicks.
Bill Hicks is the one who said it and explained it best, but that is something that I keep reminding myself whenever I get too deep into the whole political sphere, whenever I get into a negative tailspin.
Lydia, you have something to say?
lydia smith
Yeah, so I was actually reading a book just a little while ago about stress by a lady named Kelly McGonigal.
She was talking about how stress will shorten your life, but only if you think that it's bad.
Only if you think that stress is bad will it literally shorten your lifespan.
If you view it as a positive chance to develop yourself, it will make you stronger and better and actually live longer.
luke rudkowski
And in retrospect, a lot of the stuff that we're arguing about and fighting about is absolutely petty.
It's absolutely pointless.
It absolutely doesn't even add up an amount to anything.
It's just a lot of egotistical, grandizing, inward kind of thinking that doesn't really produce anything.
It just destroys.
tim pool
Egotistical.
luke rudkowski
I said that.
I'm a Slavic person.
You better not correct me on my speech.
English is my second language.
And with my new designation, you better watch out, pal.
tim pool
I can get banned on Twitter.
jack murphy
So it's really important to understand about the counter and terror stuff that's coming and all the Patriot Act 3.0 and whatnot.
But personally, I'm more inclined to be thinking about my values, my personal values, and finding other people that share my personal values, and then getting alignment.
I don't know if you have alignment.
I have alignment.
I have alignment where my values, my mission, my actions, day-to-day, my purpose, everything are perfect alignment.
I don't need motivation, man.
I am weightless.
I am invincible.
I am drawn straight ahead across a frictionless surface towards my vision.
Because I spent years telling myself what it's going to be and where I'm going to go and dreaming about it and constantly just shaping my reality in order to make it happen.
And now here I am.
Yes, the politics are important.
Yes, we have to pay attention.
Yes, bad things are coming.
But at the same time, it's more important than ever right now to find people who share your values.
And that's what we're doing in the liminal order, man.
Masculinity, brotherhood, sovereignty.
Get people together who share your values.
Come check it out.
ian crossland
The liminal order for a second.
That's a company that you created.
tim pool
People need to understand, uh, when you're choosing your direction, when you're finding your destiny, there have been many moments in my life where there have been very obvious roadblocks that felt like, if I go in this path, I am literally trying to push against a brick wall.
It's not going anywhere.
And there have been certain moments where it just feels like you said, Jack, gliding across a frictionless surface.
A lot of people might have trouble figuring out how to get that path rolling, but I'll tell you this, when I first started doing everything I was doing, I was homeless.
You know, so starting at Occupy Wall Street, I had nowhere to live, I was sleeping in a park.
And I just did what felt right to do, and seemed to just, I don't know, seemed to be the thing to do.
And it didn't make a lot of money, and then eventually a little bit of money came in.
And then I was sleeping on a guy's couch.
And then over time, it's not like one day I woke up and just signed a piece of paper saying, I'm gonna start a big business and do a podcast.
It's all just pieces that have been added to the, you know, it's like building a Lego.
It's like a Lego model or whatever.
You're adding one piece every day, and eventually you have this big sculpture.
Or as the statement, the old adage goes, the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
ian crossland
You guys are talking about positivity and negativity and alignment.
I see this as like a physical, Phenomenon, literally.
Protons have positive energy.
Electrons have negative energy.
You have an electromagnetic field, and when you can balance these energy forces with neutral energy coming from the neutron, it will literally elevate you magnetically off the earth.
You become less weighted down by thoughts and feelings, which are like, create packets of dark matter that weigh you down, your thoughts, you know?
I also think about the liminal order.
I want to talk a little bit about positivity and negativity, because in science, protons are heavy.
Electrons are really light.
It's really easy to attract negative energy in science, and I think also in life.
tim pool
That's why it spreads like a virus.
ian crossland
It is!
tim pool
It's hard for people to apologize.
It's hard for people to resist when someone's negative to you.
They immediately want to react and be negative back.
ian crossland
It's a process called runaway breakdown in science that is known for producing lightning.
You have a cloud of plasma of electrons and one will go and then all the other ones will follow it and it creates this shock of negative energy.
Now negative energy can also draw positive energy in and positive energy can bring negative energy so there is balance.
And sometimes like when you go negative and start talking about the deep hate and the negativity things, I want to become positive to balance it out.
There's that phenomenon too.
So if you're only positive, you may end up running into trouble.
And so it's important to acknowledge these things as well.
jack murphy
What I do with negative energy is jujitsu.
When I got doxxed, when I got fired, when I had my name tarnished and I went through all that and I lost my job and income, my reputation, everything I had built for years, you take all that negative energy and Turn it around.
And now I use all that attention and all that momentum to build an organization, values-based organization, where men have come together with people who share their common values to create that frictionless surface and alignment and move towards your goals in a way that's, it's basically effortless.
tim pool
Let's talk about what's going on with, you mentioned the CIA, the domestic terror stuff, because we have this actual big story from CNN.
Canada will list the Proud Boys movement as a terrorist group.
That's the gist of the story.
Canada is now saying the Proud Boys are terrorists.
They say they'll be deemed an ideologically motivated violent extremist group, along with three others.
Adam Waffen, the base, and the Russian Imperial Movement, of which the Proud Boys don't necessarily belong in that group at all.
The government said in a news release, their violent actions and rhetoric are fueled by white supremacy, anti-Semitism, racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, and misogyny.
And unfortunately, often in combination of all of the above.
said Public Safety Minister Bill Blair at a news conference Wednesday.
When asked about the new terrorist designation for the Proud Boys, Blair said that the events of January 6 at the U.S.
Capitol did initiate a political response in Canada.
My understanding.
Proud Boys don't really operate all that much in Canada.
And as a disturbing and concerning as those images and those events were, they also provided
law enforcement and our intelligence services with a trove of new information, in which
quite frankly many of these groups revealed themselves,"
said Blair, adding that Canada's decision was based on evidence, intelligence and law.
My understanding, Proud Boys don't really operate all that much in Canada.
Isn't that true?
luke rudkowski
I mean, I haven't seen anything.
I asked my audience today, like, what did the Proud Boys do in Canada?
I mean, I haven't seen any protests.
I haven't seen any attacks.
I haven't seen any actions or consequences that have led to any kind of human suffering.
And now, the article mentions three groups.
The Proud Boys are now listed also with Al-Qaeda, the Muhajirin, and ISIS.
So that's the designation that they give the Proud Boys, and you know, whatever you think about them, like them or hate them, I think this is a stretch to say the least, and it's a very slippery slope because they're essentially saying that anyone could be a terrorist in the future.
tim pool
Well, let's talk about what happens next.
I'm not going to name any specific banks, but there are many banks that are international banks.
They operate in the United States, they're very large, some of the biggest in the country, and they operate in Canada as well.
Believe it or not, though, you know, for a lot of people who haven't traveled, there are a bunch of really crazy other companies.
You know, you go to another country, and you'll see a bunch of different banks you've never heard of, and that's okay.
I mean, it should be obvious, but a lot of people are kind of surprised to see a bunch of weird banks they've never heard of.
But in this current day and age, it's really interesting to see a lot of these banks, the same banks, exist in a bunch of other countries.
Let's say you've got some guy who's a proud boy in the United States, never been to a rally, never been to an event, never been in a fight.
His bank calls him up and says, although in the United States you have a right to free speech and you have never been convicted of a crime or charged with a crime or even at a rally, in Canada you are deemed a terrorist and we operate in Canada so we cannot provide financial services to you lest the Canadian government come after us.
So now, if there is a company that requires any kind of government certification or permitting through Canada for their Canadian arm, they will come for you in the United States.
There are probably web services, especially, that say, well, we operate in Canada as well, like Facebook, for instance.
What happens now?
Well, Canada's going to say, we want you to ban all the terrorists.
You cannot have Facebook in our country if you host terrorism.
Well, now that the Proud Boys are terrorists, Facebook will be like, okay, what do we do?
Do we ban them all?
And then make it so that they're only banned in Canada?
So when they post things, it doesn't appear in Canada?
Or does Facebook just start banning them outright?
I'm pretty sure, for the most part, they've all been banned anyway.
But now we're going to start seeing how, in the U.S., you may have rights, but thanks to the ever-expanding international corporate system and international free trade stuff, You can get some small island nation with a decent amount of money, and they could say whatever they want, and then these big corporations, if it fits the bill, they're gonna be like, okay, cool, ban them, get rid of them, they're done.
So yeah, sure, you'll be allowed to live and function as you want, but what about Visa and MasterCard?
Visa and MasterCard operate in Canada.
What if Canada says to them, you are providing financial services for a terrorist organization?
So then Visa and MasterCard in the United States tell the Proud Boys, anybody who's ever been associated, we're shutting you off from all credit card services.
That's it.
There's two companies.
Maybe go discover Amex, I guess.
But what happens when those companies say the same thing?
Because they operate internationally as well.
This designation is insane.
And we're going to start seeing just how bad this whole domestic war on terror is going to get.
jack murphy
The babies are gonna get thrown out with the bathwater here.
I mean, it's also important to remember, like, if you read the front page of the Washington Post last couple days, it reads the copy reads as if there was a planned premeditated, like domestic terror attack, a revolutionary attack that was planned and implemented and was successful and people are dead.
unidentified
So, this is what they really and truly believe.
tim pool
In the minds of people like AOC, there was a bunch of 6'5", super ripped dudes with night vision goggles and tactical gear, storming in going, move, move, move!
unidentified
Now!
tim pool
Police's office, run, run!
And then a bunch of cops came in and fought them and it was this great battle and then she's hiding in the bathroom and a guy bangs the door, boom, boom, boom, where is she?
And then she's like, what's happening?
Get her out of here!" And she's like, oh no, no. And that's how they're framing it.
When in reality, it was a bunch of like bewildered, bumbling fools and the cops opened the door at one part.
There was the storming of the central door, but the cops opened the door and people are waving little flags and
walking in and the cops are like, Oh, that's your right to protest. One cop took a selfie
with people.
luke rudkowski
In reality, there was also individuals that had jackets with their phone numbers on the back because it was
representing a construction company that they had.
And I'm sorry, you know, a lot of these maskless people, they're not criminal masterminds.
They're not the sharpest knives in the draw, especially when they have their phone number on the back of their jacket doing all of this.
tim pool
Or when the guy takes the podium and then he smiles and waves to the camera.
There's no plan here.
jack murphy
But we all know this, but the Washington Post puts it on the front page that there was a battle in the Capitol and people are dead and it was because we have terrorists in America.
So if you take that as the base, which is now history, right?
I tweeted a poll today.
I said, who won the battle of narratives for January 6th?
The commies or the good guys?
unidentified
80, 90%.
jack murphy
The commies.
Even our guys believe that we lost the battle of the narrative for January 6th, which is going to go down for all of history, which is now going to be the linchpin and the Patriot Act stuff and the insurgents crackdown that's coming.
And there's going to be a lot of collateral damage.
And you know what?
People aren't going to care.
We have collateral damage.
Obama drops bombs on babies to get a terrorist.
And guess what people say?
Collateral damage.
Collateral damage.
I don't think that that's too far away from where we are here.
And I'm talking to John Robb next week, who is an amazing strategist, technologist.
He writes at the intersection of war and politics and technology.
He's been predicting this for some time.
He's been predicting the fact that there's going to be a corporate techno fascism.
Rallying around an insurgency counterinsurgency development in the United States to just use that as the tool in the vehicle by which just clamp down on free speech, human rights, freedom, association, freedom of movement, all of the things that we hold dear as Americans.
So really, if you think about it, they're framing us as insurgents, you know, us, MAGA, right term, right side people.
It's kind of true because we're occupied.
We're occupied by people that don't believe in the American spirit.
They don't believe in American history.
They want to change American history.
They don't care about any of it.
tim pool
What does the Second Amendment say?
jack murphy
Right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
tim pool
Bear?
jack murphy
Is it bear?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Keep and bear arms.
jack murphy
Yeah.
tim pool
What does it mean to bear arms?
jack murphy
Open carry.
tim pool
And in how many states are you not allowed to open?
jack murphy
So many, of course.
unidentified
Right.
jack murphy
Yeah.
tim pool
It's just the Constitution is completely meaningless.
jack murphy
It's gone.
I know it's gone.
It's going to get even worse.
It's going to get even worse.
tim pool
And so... You want to know what I'm looking forward to, though?
For the first time to see a Third Amendment lawsuit.
jack murphy
Oh man.
ian crossland
What's that?
jack murphy
Soldiers can't be quartered.
tim pool
No quartering in private homes of military.
That one's never going to happen.
It's just archaic.
And it's really interesting that it was a big deal back then.
And it's not really been that big of a deal for us in modern times.
But all the rest of them, especially the 4th, the 5th, the 1st, the 2nd, they're all huge.
Even the 9th, the 10th.
I mean, almost every amendment is coming up.
jack murphy
I didn't even remember the 3rd when you brought it up just now.
I was like, wait, which one?
tim pool
Yep, I love it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The soldiers can't be courted in private homes.
jack murphy
Yeah.
ian crossland
I could see, like, if there was an uprising, an armed uprising, and then the people that were uprising would be like, we need to use your house.
We need to use your house.
And that could be, like, a violation of people's civil rights.
tim pool
That was basically what it was, you know, back in the day.
The soldiers would be like, we're fighting a war, and so the soldiers are coming in, and we need a place to stay, so we're taking your home.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Not that the government would do it, but that our own people that were rising up to protect us from the government would try and do it.
luke rudkowski
These are pretty scary times because we have thousands of troops inside of the US Capitol, we have politicians, we have the mainstream media cheering on the deep state arm of the intelligence agencies, large unaccountable departments within our government that are going after people for their speech, for their beliefs, and they're doing it more and more aggressively.
As we just learned that the FBI raided the house of rally organizers that organized a rally on the night before January 6th.
Now, CNN wrote a whole article about this, how this was justified because of their language, but again, these people weren't charged.
They just had their doors busted down because they organized a political rally.
Now, I don't know exactly what these individuals said.
I don't even know who they are.
But this is, again, an FBI that has been mobilized and activated and is becoming more and more political.
When it came to individuals like Epstein, they sat on their hands.
They didn't do anything for over 30 years.
30 years!
So many horrible crimes are happening with that individual.
Nothing.
But now?
You know, we have this insurrection, they're mobilized, they're activated, they're putting up wanted posters all over the United States.
jack murphy
Oh my god, in every bus shelter in DC, it's just all these pictures of guys in MAGA hats and just like, do you know these people?
All up and down my neighborhood, all over the place.
You know, an additional scary element to what's happening is not only are they looking to prosecute people for crimes today, Not only are they looking probably into the future to prosecute people for anticipated crimes, they're going back five years.
Going back five years to Ricky Vaughn to get the guy for a meme.
Now, it's possible that it was actually illegal and you can't tell people the wrong way to vote and whatever.
tim pool
But it was pretty bad what he did.
So this guy, he was, you know, like an S-poster, I guess you want to call it, an ish poster.
And he had this, it was a viral meme that was going around that said, I don't necessarily think it's even fair to call it a meme for the most part.
I know a lot of people on the right have said that.
It was like, vote, you know, vote early and vote by text.
Text this number.
jack murphy
Avoid the lines.
tim pool
Yeah, avoid the lines.
Text this number.
And it said paid for by political candidate so-and-so or whatever.
So it was like, You can call it- you can say it was a joke and you go back, haha, I'm gonna share this.
So I don't think the guy deserves to go to prison for it.
ian crossland
Well, if he was trying to trick people into thinking that they'd voted, that's pretty nasty federally.
tim pool
Absolutely, yeah, it's a crime.
And it said that it was paid for by the candidate?
That's hard manipulation.
And Trump didn't prosecute the guy, so now five years later, they're... Hold on, there's a bunch of people who did the same thing on the other side.
There's a viral video of a woman putting on a MAGA hat and saying, Trump supporters, go here to vote, and it was totally fake.
So the issue is, Trump didn't prosecute any of those people.
Not that the Democrats are in power.
They're going after the people who went after them, but not the people who did the same thing.
jack murphy
So the scariest thing is going to be the score settling, right?
They're going to want to settle the score.
And that means that a lot of people who thought that they were safe and a lot of people who thought that they'd gotten away with it may not.
tim pool
Oh, they didn't.
No, I mean, it's gonna be chaos.
Look, we've got permanent barbed wire fencing around the Capitol right now.
Washington, D.C.
is currently under occupation.
It is occupied by the National Guard.
And I'm not saying that to be bombastic, literally 5,000 National Guard will be permanently placed there.
I'm sorry, they're saying the Green Zone will be permanent.
I don't know how many troops will be there, but they're saying at least until March, there's gonna be 5,000 National Guardsmen.
jack murphy
You don't think that, I mean, that is the central part of the Iraqi strategy, the Green Zone.
They've established the Green Zone.
They're establishing their counterinsurgency network.
And pretty soon we're going to start seeing quiet bribes for assassinations in the middle of the night and drone strikes.
I mean, I'm exaggerating a little bit.
Or am I?
I don't know.
How far are they going to go?
People that we know, they're rabid.
They don't care about reality.
They don't care about the constitution.
They care about settling scores.
They can't even be happy.
Mike Cernovich the other day was tweeting out.
He's like, where is the jubilation from the Democrats?
Do you remember what it was like in January of 2017?
Holy crap.
That's where I met you.
Was it the deplorable too?
Like, dude, the energy was insane.
Everybody was ecstatic.
There's none of that.
There's none of that, because they're negative, nasty, horrible people.
tim pool
They're still crying.
They're still sad, yeah.
This is the crazy thing.
When Trump won, we saw the memes of these people dropping to their knees and crying and screaming and mourning, and the Trump supporters were like, what?
They didn't think they were going to win in the first place, so they're laughing, and celebrate good times, come on, all that good stuff.
Well, Joe Biden did that one at the, what was it, the, I can't think of the word, the DNC.
Convention.
At the convention.
Um, when he was nominated, but after Joe Biden won.
They were still crying.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I remember seeing, like, you mentioned Andrew Sullivan was, like, listening to Biden's speech and started crying.
jack murphy
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, they're still crying!
ian crossland
It's because they summoned a demon to destroy their enemy and now the demon's president.
He's not a literal demon, but it's like when you use something you hate to destroy something else you hate, you're still going to end up hating it.
tim pool
No, but they like Biden.
What I think happened is they're infected with a demoralization mind virus.
ian crossland
They wanted Trump out.
They didn't want Biden in.
tim pool
They can't let go of the hate and anger because it's not It wasn't really about Trump.
It was just, they just hate.
And so what happens now is they're redirecting it towards this nebulous concept of Trumpism, which is meaningless.
Now they're saying, oh, Trumpism is the problem.
Listen, you've got these satellites orbiting this planet.
Trump was that planet.
That was where all the media and all the narrative and all the hit was orbiting.
Now the planet's gone.
There's nothing to orbit anymore.
And so they're pointing at nothing Trump so quickly disappeared from the public spotlight, no social media, haven't heard a word from the man outside of these vague statements you get from the Office of 45 emails he's sending out to people, where it's like, here's my response to impeachment, yet they've still repeatedly done stories.
The Daily Beast, this one journalist, I'm not gonna say her name, ran a story saying, Trump lost the presidency and Twitter.
Guess which one hurt worse?
And I'm like, it's been two weeks!
It's been longer than that since Trump's got suspended from Twitter, okay?
Why are you still writing the same story you wrote a month ago?
They were all saying they're going to keep doing it because they just hate.
They need something to hate.
Trump is the avatar of their hate, but he's gone now.
luke rudkowski
Well, they're going to go after anything and everything that they can.
And to me, what you're saying was definitely exemplified by an article that I saw from The Independent today that was titled, Outrage!
As Alleged Capitol Rioter Is Permitted Vacation to Mexico Ahead of Trial.
And this whole article was doxing this lady who was, again, not convicted of a crime, doesn't have a criminal record.
She had a work-related event that she needed to go to Mexico, and a judge said, sure, you could go to that.
tim pool
That's not true.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Never happened.
luke rudkowski
What do you mean?
tim pool
News story broke and we saw a viral trend on Twitter, white privilege.
People were saying white privilege is this Capitol rioter saying that she wants to go on vacation and the judge letting her do it.
Never happened.
The judge never issued an order saying she was allowed to go on vacation.
Ryan Reilly of the Huffington Post issued an emergency correction saying, everybody, everybody, it never happened.
It was a proposal.
Not an order.
And the media didn't fact-check, so they ran a fake story.
luke rudkowski
And then the independent media ran with it.
The independent ran with it, and that's the information that I got from today.
I didn't see their correction.
I talked about it, and I read the full article today.
tim pool
This is what happens when you trust the mainstream media, Luke.
luke rudkowski
Yep, you got me.
I'm caught red-handed.
tim pool
They all ran this story claiming that, you know, there was one high-profile left-wing commentator showed a picture of a black man at the riot who was denied bail.
And he says, I wonder what about this man resulted in him getting denied while this other story is breaking.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Well, the other story that's breaking is fake news.
More importantly.
This woman is being charged with, I think, two misdemeanors.
Disorderly conduct.
Yes.
And entering, you know, restricted grounds.
Apparently she didn't even go in the building.
And so she's getting a misdemeanor charge, which I tell you, when she goes in there and they're like, did you go on the grounds?
I did, your honor.
And were you being disorderly?
Well, I disagree, but I accept the charges.
No contest, your honor.
It's going to be like, okay, we're going to give you 20 hours of community service, court supervision, have a nice day.
That's the end of it.
She's going to go home and then forget it ever happened.
luke rudkowski
And then the mainstream media is going to freak out about that and then also have another rage bait click about this.
But the larger point that I was trying to make here is why is the independent concentrating on this lady?
It used to be where the media used to go up against special interests.
It used to go against the powers that be.
It used to go up against actual people that actually mattered in your life and had an effect on the way you
lived your life They don't do that anymore. It's it's this lady that you
tim pool
have to be outraged about look at look at what happened in Sweden
I don't know if you know the story Jack but Several years ago, you know, I went to Sweden for this last
night in Sweden thing Yeah, and one of the biggest stories I discovered was that
only a few months prior one of their biggest newspapers hacked discus
Which is this commenting system people use? Yeah on various websites to to docks
Anonymous commenters go to their homes and film them Knock on the door, when they come out, there's a camera in their face.
Why'd you say this disparaging comment about, you know, immigrants or whatever?
Some of the comments were innocuous, saying, I think Sweden needs to take care of their citizens and stop allocating tax funds towards people who don't live here.
And they're like, why are you racist?
These people got ambushed.
The question is, why was a newspaper hacking and doxing people and targeting individuals?
News organizations are supposed to be the necessary component of a true democratic government or true government of the people.
They challenge the powers that be.
They write the things that people don't want to hear.
Instead, they write the thing that the tribalists love to hear as they burn the witch.
It's the witch hunts.
They go after people for nasty opinions and they say, this woman, she walked on the Capitol.
Now we're seeing, like, anybody who was even in D.C.
is being targeted.
Were you in D.C.
while it was going down?
You're done.
They'll nuke you, they'll ban you, they'll fire you, they'll come after you.
There was that one rapper guy who got dropped from his label simply for listening to Trump speak and then leaving.
There's that one Army psychological operations officer who went down in a bus with some people, saw Trump speak, and then left, and they are getting investigated.
It's going to get bad, man.
I'll tell you.
jack murphy
So I have a couple of things.
I want to throw out a question and make a comment.
We'll come back to the question maybe.
Do you think that they're going to under-prosecute those crimes?
The ones at the Capitol?
tim pool
I think it's going to be that they are going, I think they're going to look in the book and try and take every possible technicality to make it sound worse than it is and give them the highest maximum penalty.
jack murphy
Maximum penalty.
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
That's a prosecution, but essentially it's still going to be up to the judge.
tim pool
Well, I'll clarify my earlier point about the one in the misdemeanors.
A normal person who receives misdemeanor gets a slap on the wrist in court supervision.
jack murphy
This, I do believe, will be different, because... Yeah, I mean, some misdemeanors are punishable by, like, a thousand dollars and a year in jail.
tim pool
Yeah, anything more than a year, I think, becomes felony.
So, she could get up to a year.
I think she might, and I think, you know...
Oh, what did she do?
If you walked past the barrier, they're charging you with a crime for being at the Capitol.
That's it.
jack murphy
Yeah.
tim pool
Two crimes, essentially.
So she could, I don't know, I don't think she could get more than a year off misdemeanors, but I think in this case, while these, you know, if you told me that someone was facing a misdemeanor charge and they were given permission to go on vacation, I'd be like, and?
jack murphy
Yeah, right.
ian crossland
Wait, if someone's on the Capitol property while it was being broken into, they're getting charged?
tim pool
Not while it was being broken into.
They set up barriers, and if you walk past a barrier, you get charged.
ian crossland
Oh, because the barriers were set up.
tim pool
Yeah, it was restricted access.
jack murphy
So what's interesting about the media turning its attention away from the establishment and public figures towards individual citizens, this is portending, portending, I think that's the word, predicting the future of our own apparatus, the other big apparatus, the government, turning its attention onto the civilians instead of on the citizens, instead of on the big things that matter.
What is it?
What is it about our time that's make the individual so dangerous?
That they have to be squashed by the media controlled by the government corralled by a counterinsurgency program within the United States They always are they are they feeling are they feeling vulnerable?
ian crossland
They've always had control of the plebs since the beginning times.
There's always been an aristocracy, the Greeks, there's always been gods and men, basically, and it's sad to say.
tim pool
Well, you know, when you had this government in London, the king and all that stuff in parliament, but the colonies
were thousands of miles away, the influence was strained to the point where it snapped.
And they could have listened to the grievances of the colonists and it probably would have
averted the revolution. But look at the Declaration of Independence. They literally say, here
are all the things we have tried petitioning and won't be resolved. They're not listening to
us. So then they declare independence.
All of a sudden, the rabble snapped off the control from the aristocracy and the lords.
Let me just mention, do you guys know that the House of Lords in the UK literally has just landed gentry and religious high-ranking individuals?
Imagine if our Senate was comprised of Just, uh, you know, super wealthy millionaires who are politically, you know, had political access and we're just essentially, you know, uh, using corporate money and influence and connections to get these political positions.
jack murphy
Wait, is not that you're saying now?
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
The point I'm making is when you look at the UK and you can see they have a house of Lords, literally the Lords who are making the laws.
And then you look at the United States, we just call it by a different name and pretend it's not.
jack murphy
Yeah.
tim pool
But it is.
jack murphy
It's true.
ian crossland
And like when the founding fathers snapped off the rabble and made the U.S., then they
just broke up the rabble into the gods of the rabble and the men of the rabble.
tim pool
It's true.
The initial strategy, constitutional plan for senators was that the state legislatures
would appoint their senators to the federal senate.
That way they literally said better men would be the ones having these conversations.
ian crossland
I think about this a lot because humans are animals.
I've talked about this consistently.
And you know, uneducated people are essentially wild animals.
If you're born in the woods and you aren't socialized properly, you're going to act like a wolf.
So what, are we supposed to herd the sheep and have like a group of shepherds that lead and control things?
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
And people are vying to become one of the shepherds?
jack murphy
Look, hierarchies exist all over nature and for a reason.
tim pool
Lobsters.
jack murphy
For a reason.
tim pool
Yeah.
But here's the issue.
The answer is yes.
The problem is meritocracy is the right way.
People who have earned the respect and earned the right and genuinely care for the flock.
The problem now is we don't have sheep dogs and sheep.
We have wolves pretending to be the sheep dogs and then mutilating the sheep.
ian crossland
So people that are born into money.
tim pool
Not necessarily.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I mean, AOC wasn't necessarily born into money.
I mean, relative to the world she was, and I think to a certain degree she was like middle class, so she wasn't poor by any stretch of the imagination.
But look what she does to empower herself at the expense of others.
The capital rights are all about her now, and she'll make up this crazy story and embellish and exaggerate to gain power.
ian crossland
I don't even think she was always like that.
I think that power can corrupt you and make you...
Selfish.
tim pool
I mean, we don't know her.
You didn't, you didn't know her back then.
You didn't see what she was saying back then.
So we just don't know.
We just see her for what she does now.
jack murphy
It feels like the system to me that we, to me, that the system that we have today specifically selects for people who are selfish, inward thinking, manipulative, control freaks.
It does not select for genuine, generous, kind, outward loving people.
tim pool
So the issue is, this is interesting, in the old lordships, at least I guess you had a chance of having a certain amount of the lords actually care about being true statesmen and helping their countrymen and being a good person.
The problem is, with the system we've created of election by popular vote, it seems much more likely that the people who will get there are the sociopaths who will claw their way to the top.
Whereas, if you appoint people by random, you'd more likely get, you know, altruistic individuals.
ian crossland
I don't think so, because when you would have landlords and they'd have a child and the child would just be a...
groveling idiot, they'd get the entire land and then they'd become the controller.
But the landlord's knight, the great noble knight who raised their child to be this phenomenal
human would be a commoner and serve this idiot landlord's son.
tim pool
Mathematically, if to become a lord you must manipulate, lie, cheat, and steal to gain
political prominence and to gain attention, it is more likely that a good, honorable,
noble citizen will not do what needs to be done to win that office.
However, if you have a whole bunch of lords, a bunch of them are probably going to be the worst of the worst, but you might at least get one or two where they're like, I'm going to do my best for my people.
Now, I'm not an advocate of that system.
I'm just pointing out how kind of hilarious it is that we've tried to build this system that would be better for, by, and of the people, and essentially now, a couple hundred years later, it is just... Maybe it's just term limits.
ian crossland
Maybe we just need term limits.
jack murphy
No, that's not the problem.
I always enjoy this discussion where we're like, what if we just took somebody by lottery and put them in charge?
We would do better.
tim pool
Demarchy.
jack murphy
Let's think about this for a second, though.
Random people who win the lottery.
What is our general sense of how they handle that newfound sense of wealth and power?
ian crossland
They blow it.
tim pool
They usually screw it up real bad.
Not anymore.
That's how it used to be.
jack murphy
You have the stats?
tim pool
I've read a bit about it, actually.
Yeah.
So, you know, in the late 90s, there were a lot of shows that came out talking about people who blew their lottery winnings and how more money, more problems, and their family started hating them.
And then the money ran out.
They didn't know what to do with it.
They didn't know where to put it.
Well, once those stories started coming out, people in the past couple of decades have consulted wealth management firms and have done a very good job of managing the new lottery winnings.
Yeah, and there was one story I read where a guy won like a hundred something million dollars or something like that.
Maybe it was like 70.
And then he set aside how much he needed based on wealth management advice to put away to be retired and be wealthy for the rest of his life.
And then he started writing checks to people who asked.
ian crossland
People would send him letters saying, I need money for this, and he'd be like... The internet has been kind of a great equalizer when it comes to education, and controlling money is an acquired ability, so that's kind of nice.
tim pool
But the idea of demarchy isn't that we would create a government of only randomly chosen people.
It's that you would have multiple layers, much like we do now, with the Senate, with elected representatives, and then maybe what we need is a fourth branch, which would be the demarcic institutions.
ian crossland
Yeah, the National Initiative.
Have you guys studied this?
Mike Gravel was trying to push this through in 2004.
It would create a fourth branch of government that would allow every state to add a representative to this National Initiative branch of government that would be people, just common people, that could then write and pass laws.
tim pool
But it would have to be Demarcic.
It would have to be that one day you walk to your mailbox and you're like, I got chosen.
jack murphy
Like jury duty.
tim pool
Exactly.
And it would be for like a month.
And then they would set you up.
It would be, you'd be accommodated.
You'd be compensated.
And there would have to be protections where you can't get fired from your job.
If you were selected for.
ian crossland
I would love to start pushing something like this because the national initiative is not going to get passed by Congress, according to Mike Gravel.
And it would be something that the citizens would have to pass.
51% of us would have to come together and make this happen.
By what is that called when you get people just to do something by decree, basically, the mass majority?
tim pool
It's not a grand solution, though.
A bunch of, you know, if you take a random person, they're gonna... If we brought a random person into this room right now... It's not random.
ian crossland
The way it's built, it's not random.
tim pool
I'm talking about Demarchy.
That's what we were talking about.
If you brought a random person out and asked them about any of this, they would have no idea.
ian crossland
I wouldn't want a random person.
tim pool
Well, so, I don't know what you're talking about.
We were literally at the National... We're having a conversation.
ian crossland
This has been thought of before tonight.
It's called the National Initiative.
tim pool
You're not having the same conversation as we are.
ian crossland
You're talking about putting random people in charge, it's insane.
tim pool
Ian, please, please.
ian crossland
Okay, tell me how it's great.
tim pool
Jack Murphy brought up demarchy.
ian crossland
And then you brought up a fourth branch of government.
tim pool
A demarchic branch of government in response to what Jack Murphy is talking about.
ian crossland
I don't think random people is the right way to do it.
tim pool
So that's the conversation.
I don't know if Jack, you were making a comment about demarchy.
jack murphy
Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
We trust a jury of 12 to decide life or death on a random basis.
ian crossland
Well, we don't trust a judge to be a random guy.
jack murphy
You make the cases.
ian crossland
You gotta go to school to be a judge.
tim pool
Which is why there's multiple branches of government.
ian crossland
You don't have one juror.
You have a group of juries that basically, and the judge can overturn the jury.
tim pool
No, they can't.
They can overturn the jury or they can give instructions.
ian crossland
So yes, they can.
No!
You just said, no, they can't.
They can.
tim pool
I was actually saying a sentence, Ian.
ian crossland
Or they can give instructions, yeah.
tim pool
I said, they can overrule the jury or give instructions in certain circumstances.
But you jumped in before I finished the sentence.
ian crossland
What's the circumstance that they couldn't?
tim pool
If the jury comes out and says, we find the defendant not guilty, the judge says, well, so be it.
It was a jury trial.
He doesn't then go, no, I reject.
Now, there are certain circumstances where judges have actually done this, and it results in crazy constitutional crises and lawsuits where judges have been like, I don't care what the jury said, lock him up.
Contempt of court.
ian crossland
Yeah, legally, they're allowed to do that.
tim pool
They're not.
ian crossland
That's what they're supposed to do.
They're supposed to keep the jury in check, basically.
tim pool
By giving instructions like, disregard that, that's against the rules.
Not by, I'm shutting the jury down because they ruled in a way I don't like.
ian crossland
It's very dictatorial to do something like that.
tim pool
The idea is, what if, instead of, you know, when people run for Congress, they need a ton of money.
It's very difficult.
They need popularity.
AOC manages this by being bombastic and being a sensational character.
She raises millions of dollars across the nation, and to be completely honest, there are a lot of politicians who raise money outside of this country, which is illegal, and they do it through non-profits and circuitous means.
But AOC is not doing that.
I'm not saying she does.
But she raises money all over the country for her one district, because she's prominent.
That makes it impossible for someone to run against her, because of her profile.
So you have the Senate, which is mostly millionaires.
I'm pretty sure they're all millionaires.
I think they all are.
Actually, no, I think there's a few that are worth like half a million dollars.
But it's very difficult to win a state, to be a senator.
To run in Congress, it's not as hard because you're in a smaller area.
It's easier to go around and talk to people, but you still need a ton of money.
So the idea of Demarchy, just as, you know, Jack was bringing up, not as a necessarily good thing because you were critical of it and people, how they spend their money in the lottery, would be the idea that we would try and take random, regular people without the restrictions of not having enough money or not being a political insider and giving them a chance to sit down Go over these bills for a short period of time and then weigh in on it.
Regular people.
Not special political elites who are allowed to bear arms when we're not.
Not people who have connections to big industry or massive Twitter profiles where they can fundraise off of.
A regular guy who is, you know, he's a tradesman of some sort or a woman who's a homemaker, for that matter, or a businesswoman, finally now going to the table and, you know, once in a while having a kind of jury duty-like system.
ian crossland
But like truly random?
Like anyone could be...
tim pool
Within like a certain age range, like older than 18, it would be like jury duty.
ian crossland
What if you get like some, like a bunch of mentally unstable people though that don't want to be there?
tim pool
Are they human beings?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Do they have rights?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Can they vote?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
ian crossland
But I don't think I want them passing laws.
tim pool
It wouldn't be like 10 people.
It would be like 500 or 1000 people.
jack murphy
So Ian, you've already begun to reestablish the hierarchy.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Some people, I mean, I'm honest, IQ is a thing.
And there's, we measure that kind of ability to calculate and to think.
jack murphy
Hierarchies are good, but the only way they work is if it works for everyone involved in the hierarchy.
That's why when you lead, you have to be a servant.
You have to be a servant leader.
You have to be, how can I help the people that I'm leading?
How can I help the people that are following me?
And I take the same approach on my Twitter profile, on my Twitter page.
I'm like, guys, get out of Washington, D.C.
Nothing bad is gonna happen right now.
Please stay in the suburbs.
Don't come to the city.
Don't do this.
I'm trying to help people.
ian crossland
Maybe Demarchy is the way to go.
If it's temporary.
tim pool
Just another branch.
It's like you get a month.
It's like a jury, or maybe even a couple weeks.
And what happens is you have a thousand, maybe even three thousand people are randomly chosen
once a month and then their travel is paid for, they come to this big auditorium-like
room where they're given a packet of information to read through and then cast their votes
on certain issues and it's just another layer that provides regular people a chance to come
and have their voice heard.
And then their votes are all public and they go back a month later and people who live
near them know what they voted for.
And they say, you voted to take my money with that tax increase?
Are you nuts?
And so then people are concerned.
Am I going to defy the will of my neighbors by voting for the special interests?
No way!
I'm only here for a month!
And maybe not even a month.
Maybe it's for specific votes.
I don't exactly know if it's a good idea.
I'm not saying it will work.
I'm saying it's an interesting concept.
ian crossland
Well, there's something good about term limits, that's for sure.
Because you know you're not there to win people's favor and stay in office.
You're just there to do the job.
tim pool
There's still a lot of arguments for and against term limits.
I think the problems we face are not so easily solved.
And it's interesting, you know, I was having this conversation the other day.
I can't remember what movie we were watching.
It was something about air conditioning.
And I was just like, isn't it crazy that there's a lot of people who have a general concept of how air conditioning works.
And if they went back hundreds of years, they could describe it to someone and probably make some kind of rudimentary air conditioner of some sort.
Maybe not hundreds of years.
You'd still need some kind of electricity or some kind of, you know, pressurization system.
But as just a layman right now, as some random person, you can be like, I know how to make a bow and arrow.
I know the general concept.
Whereas at a certain point, it took like some genius guy hard work and ten years to be like, I finally figured out how to make a compound bow.
But now we just take all this information for granted.
We just know these things.
So, anyway, I digress.
It's just, I find it fascinating that we actually know so much about so many different things.
And then, I don't know if the solution is going to be Demarchy.
It's just an interesting concept we're bringing up.
What I'm trying to say is, the solution may be simple in a hundred years, but right now we are fighting as hard as possible to figure out what that methodology or technology will be.
jack murphy
Is the United States government in a necessarily more precarious or nefarious or dangerous circumstance than it has been at any other time in its history?
tim pool
I think the answer is yes.
jack murphy
This is the most critical, crucial... I didn't say the most.
Oh, that was my question.
Is this just the natural state of our republic?
That's what I'm really getting at.
tim pool
I think, as we've heard from many scholars, there has not been a tumultuous time like this, save the Civil War.
ian crossland
Yeah, World War I was pretty rough, I think.
tim pool
Well, we heard it was Putin, I think, said what the world is going through right now is much like pre-World War II.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, he said that a few days ago.
And we have to understand, on a historical context, having things like the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, they are extremely rare circumstances where people are able to have these amazing, God-giving rights.
That usually, typically, all throughout history are usually taken away from them because of big government.
So the fact that these important freedoms are under threat right now is something that should be concerning everyone.
jack murphy
I think it's also interesting to consider the context, uh, the context that our government in is in that we're all in in 2021.
I mean, it's novel every year because things always change, but this is radically different with the technology, social media communications, the, the, the complete just flattening of the globe, et cetera.
Uh, this is a novel laboratory in which to test the Republic.
ian crossland
I'm feeling desperate.
Like, I snapped to anger 10 minutes ago because I'm feeling this is, like, freaking me out.
This is, like, people are getting arrested.
It's not... It's not a joke.
You know, this is... If it's really, like, pre-World War II, that's terrifying, man.
We're the strongest military.
tim pool
Look, people... I think this is actually funny, but people are comparing January 6th to the burning of the Reichstag.
Like, this is their pretext for the Enabling Act.
It wasn't the Enabling Act, though, was it?
unidentified
The burning of the Reichstag with the Enabling Act?
ian crossland
So the Reichstag burned down the capital of the German parliament, and then Hitler blamed it on the communists, and then he used that as pretext to declare the Enabling Act, take everyone's weapons, disarm the population.
jack murphy
I had a tweet earlier today on this subject.
Where's the best place for a forever war, but at home?
It's easy.
It's here.
It's right here.
I'm saying forever war.
In America, we love forever wars.
The best place for a forever war is right here at home.
You don't have to travel.
You don't send people abroad.
You got the addresses and social security numbers of everybody that you want to prosecute and terrorize.
Forever war at home.
And especially if it's combined with the long night of tyranny from the corporate techno fascism that we are now under, if they get the AI and they get everything that they want, it could be a switch.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack murphy
It's flipped that cannot be unturned.
unidentified
Well, On that note, smash that like button.
tim pool
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Yeah.
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So, that being said.
jack murphy
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Nice and easy.
tim pool
Sign up.
jack murphy
There's a lot of great content on there.
There's going to be us on there cussing up a storm in just a few minutes.
tim pool
Cussing up a storm.
Wonderful!
jack murphy
Because, man, holding it in this whole time.
It's been very hard.
tim pool
Jack's turning red.
jack murphy
It's been very hard.
You saw me.
I was like, Dave, just...
tim pool
Let's read some of these super chats.
All right.
We got, uh, I'm not your buddy guy says not really important or related, but I just got into this show called the expanse on Amazon prime.
You got to check it out.
jack murphy
I tried, dude.
Everybody says it's amazing.
I tried the first two episodes and I was just like, this is boring as paint.
tim pool
I thought it was great.
ian crossland
What's the synopsis?
tim pool
I just, I'm not big on TV shows as it is.
jack murphy
Did you go through the series?
tim pool
I watched, I think, the first season, I think.
jack murphy
Man, maybe I gotta give it a shot.
tim pool
I don't know.
I watched half of The Mandalorian and I was enjoying it, but I just don't watch TV.
jack murphy
Oh, dude, Mandalorian got real good.
tim pool
The second season?
jack murphy
The second half of the second season was sensational.
Goosebumps changed my whole like childhood arc in my mind.
I don't want to give too much away but they did write a new Star Wars chapter at the end of that with some very important characters if you want to watch.
tim pool
I think they've just beaten Star Wars like a dead horse just like just beating it over and over.
jack murphy
I agree but I think Mandalorian is very very well done and it's the same guy that you know the Avengers stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I liked it.
I liked the first season.
Yeah.
The expanse of that was cool.
It's like, basically, you know what it's about, Ian?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
They, like, humans have colonized Mars and the asteroid belt and, you know, I think the moons of, like, Jupiter or Saturn or something.
And so the people who live in the belt are all, like, really tall and lanky and, like, frail because there's no gravity.
And then Mars, like, broke away and became their own government.
They declared independence.
And now it's a very militarized society because it was the military colony that declared independence.
So it's like, yeah, I thought it was a cool show.
jack murphy
You know a show that everybody else would love that I tried that I absolutely hated?
Cobra Kai.
Why did people tell me that this was going to be a good show?
tim pool
You didn't like Cobra Kai?
jack murphy
Oh my god, the first one was so bad.
tim pool
What?
I thought it was fun.
I'm not going to pretend like it was the greatest.
jack murphy
It's meant to be campy?
ian crossland
Yeah.
jack murphy
It's meant to be super campy?
tim pool
It's mocking Karate Kid.
It's supposed to be, like, silly.
jack murphy
It's mocking its own origin story.
tim pool
Yes.
Do you know how this show came to be?
jack murphy
No, but I mean, it's the same characters.
tim pool
There was a viral meme explaining how the karate kid was the bad guy.
It was like this viral video or something where they were like, think about it.
And it was someone justifying how the bad guy was actually the good guy.
Like you're some dude who's been training your whole life and like this kid comes in as an illegal kick.
And then they incorporated that actually as the pretext for the show Cobra Kai.
And I thought it was fun.
I haven't watched second season or anything like that.
Well, we gotta read more Super Chats.
I'm just talking about our TV shows that we like.
Oh, I thought... Let's see, uh, Yugi says... Hello, Tim and Cass, I love your show, but I am going to shamelessly plug my game that's on Steam.
Defend your buttress.
Also, my Patreon, YugiJ0319.
Defend my buttress.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
There you go.
Denman Fight says, F in the chat for the boys who missed the guerrilla air train buying stonks.
Stay awesome, IRL crew.
I'm not entirely sure the whole thing's over.
We'll see.
unidentified
We'll see.
tim pool
Cody Emin says, did you all see Tucker Carlson was on Dancing with the Stars to appreciate all of your work for everyone?
Wait, he was?
He was?
luke rudkowski
I didn't see that.
tim pool
I don't know about that.
Apache Shepherd says, would you kindly read this super chat?
I felt compelled to do that for some reason.
I don't understand.
jack murphy
Persuasion.
tim pool
No, do you know what the reference is?
jack murphy
Oh, no.
tim pool
Uh, Bioshock.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, the first game, you gotta play Bioshock.
jack murphy
I played the original, yeah.
tim pool
It's like, they used Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged as kind of like an artistic pretext and like ideological.
jack murphy
Beautiful, beautiful game.
tim pool
But, uh, spoiler alert for this, like, what, 20-something year old game.
Whenever someone says to the main character, would you kindly, he's compelled to do it.
Yeah, so it's like he's being manipulated.
Dude, Bioshock is awesome.
And then Bioshock 2 is okay.
Bioshock Infinite is pretty good, but Bioshock 1 is Awesome.
unidentified
Great.
tim pool
Good game.
Now we're talking about video games and TV shows.
unidentified
Great.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got here.
Petty says, reminder that Cuomo killed more people than 9-11 and that the first shots fired at Fort Sumter were fired by a tax ship.
Also, Biden's amnesty plan is tantamount to slavery.
Yeah, what's his amnesty plan?
I gotta read into it.
Student of History says, happy to know that now they're agreeing with Hitler's opinion that Slavs aren't white.
Now I'm waiting for the answers on the Mediterranean race.
Spanish and Italians, clarifying this is a joke.
Good lord.
Well, we now have, uh, you know, for a while, this show was, was, was led by a minority, but then I found out that Asian people were white.
So I'm actually double white, which makes me more white than both Jack and Ian and Lydia.
But now that Luke's a person of color, we're good.
We're good.
We have diversity back in the show.
jack murphy
You know, this is a serious question.
Actually.
I have a chapter in my book called what is white anyway, and Democrat and deplorable.
What is white anyway?
That's a real question.
And when did everybody become all white and why?
tim pool
Well, so this is actually one of the progressives talking points that white wasn't always Italian and it was not right.
Right.
And then it changes.
And so that's why they say whiteness isn't about the color of your skin.
It's about a social construct of the majority controlling or oppressive class.
That's how they kind of deviated or whatever.
jack murphy
I see.
tim pool
Yeah.
Whatever.
jack murphy
Sounds legit.
tim pool
All right, Jay says, just gotta ask, are you guys going to talk about the real controversies, like the farmer revolt going on in India right now?
I've been looking into it.
I just don't know enough about what's going on with India.
I know that they're going to, they want to ban cryptocurrency too, but there's like a farmer revolt.
So like some big news.
Yeah.
Some things I just, if I don't know enough about, we don't get into.
Block 47 says, I've heard several different explanations of what QAnon is.
Every source seems to have their own take and I can't seem to make full sense of it.
What is QAnon and what do they believe?
unidentified
Yeesh.
tim pool
What QAnon believes is not a thing you can pin down.
jack murphy
Or who or what it is either.
ian crossland
It seems like it was co-opted, like maybe someone in intelligence started it off.
tim pool
Started with 4chan, was it 8chan or 4chan posts?
Was it 8chan?
I think it was 8chan posts, where someone saying Q and then asking these questions, and then the narrative emerged this individual had Q clearance, which my understanding is not a real thing, but it was supposed to be like high-level clearance, and they were Secretly working with Trump to go after Hillary. I I didn't
know too much about it for a long time And I kind of just disregarded it because it was like kind
of fringe But then once it started become more prominent with the
media and asking Trump, you know I looked up more about it and start reading more about it.
And it's just it's just on it's ridiculous I I've got some people who keep saying over and over again
that like Tomorrow's the day Trump's gonna pull it off tomorrow's the
day and I'm like dude Trump's not the president He's gone trust the plan and and now they're saying March
is the real inauguration date because America was incorporated.
And it's like, did you read the history of how they changed the date of inauguration and all this stuff?
It's like, dude.
jack murphy
QAnon is squarely anti-Trump, squarely anti-MAGA.
It siphoned off positive MAGA energy into a destructive downward spiral that led to January 6th and now will usher in the tyranny of the 21st century.
So thank you, QAnon.
unidentified
There we go.
Thanks a lot.
tim pool
Mark Hicks says, a shout out for Congressman Devin Nunes.
He exposed the Russia hoax and the criminals responsible.
Those responsible have been punished with one instance of probation for falsifying documents submitted to the FISA court.
There you go.
Count Ludwig says, I am looking to invest in crypto, but I have limited understanding of them.
What's the favorite cryptocurrency of Tim and all his co-hosts and guests who are invested in cryptos and why?
I cannot give you financial advice, and I am a moron.
Don't listen to me.
That being said, I was told by Bill Ottman of Mines, a good friend of Ian, they co-founded Mines together, who was on the show, and he said Ethereum, I think he said it on the show, I don't know if he did, Ethereum was undervalued.
And I said, I'm gonna buy some then.
I bought Ethereum, and now it's at $1,600.
He was correct.
All-time high.
So at the time when Bill said to buy it, it was at $1,000.
And that's at an all-time high.
It may have gone down a little bit, but let me tell you something.
Bitcoin is a store of value.
First in, best dressed.
That's how we explain Bitcoin.
It was the first crypto.
It is and now has always been the most prominent crypto.
So it has been the go-to choice for people who wanted to hold a digital asset that cannot be copied.
However, what can Bitcoin really do?
It does have some technology behind it.
It can execute some kind of smart contracts, but it's fairly rudimentary.
Ethereum, in my opinion, should be worth more than Bitcoin.
You know why?
We'll use Mines, for example.
Mines offers tokens.
The tokens are ERC20 tokens, right?
So that means they're basically tokens that exist within Ethereum.
ian crossland
Well, within the Ethereum blockchain.
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
The Ethereum blockchain is different than the Ethereum token.
And the Ethereum token exists on an ERC20 blockchain.
tim pool
So the general idea is Ethereum actually is a component of many businesses.
Many, many businesses.
And it is required for them to continue functioning if they're using the Ethereum blockchain.
Bitcoin isn't being used by businesses except for a store of value.
ian crossland
And that's because it's actually cheaper to trade Ethereum than to trade Bitcoin.
That's a big part of it.
tim pool
So I'll tell you this, I think Ethereum is going to eventually be worth way, way more.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was when in the early days when Bitcoin was $20,000, I think Ethereum was like $12,000.
So if you look at that ratio, now you're looking at Bitcoin at $37,000.
It's almost double.
Ethereum has not doubled $12,000 yet, and it probably will.
tim pool
Maybe one way to look at it is that, uh, Bitcoin is gold.
They say it's digital gold, right?
So you can hold it and it's very valuable and it will continue to be valuable and probably will always be particularly valuable.
But Ethereum is more like a material that you need for your, for your business.
Maybe like copper wiring or something.
It's a, it's, it's a metal and you forged, you need it to actually run your business.
So people can start buying way more Ethereum and using Ethereum way more because it's a, it's a, it's an infrastructure asset for your company.
ian crossland
I agree with you.
Ethereum's my top one right now.
I also like Polkadot.
Right now, it's not considered a security.
So it's not traded in the United States, but it allows interoperability between blockchains.
So it'll allow... That's big.
Yeah, it's huge.
And it's like the fourth most valuable one right now in the world.
Yeah.
What do you guys think about that?
luke rudkowski
Not financial advice.
I'm really, really stupid.
But I see a lot of promise and a lot of talk about Monero and its capabilities that a lot of people are flocking to.
tim pool
Because it says it doesn't publicly track what you trade.
No.
unidentified
Oh.
luke rudkowski
Yeah. Well, let's move on. Lydia loves Bitcoin, by the way.
ian crossland
And did you have something to say, Jack?
jack murphy
No, I really don't. I can't add to this conversation at all.
I started buying Bitcoin first in 2011.
Lucky. I don't know anything else about it. There you go.
tim pool
Bui says, What's up from Oklahoma?
The truth tastes good. Thank you guys for what you do.
Well, we try. All right.
Azazel, the fallen, says AOC is a sociopath in the same vein as Hillary.
Remember her story about sniper fire?
I'm not being facetious, she is literally a sociopath.
I mean, I think I said the same thing, so... Mr. Hunt, first name Michael, says we are in an information war.
They lie, cheat, and steal.
We must fight back.
The truth matters.
And if it's an information war, then you win by bringing out good information.
jack murphy
Control your personal narrative.
tim pool
Vince Starks says, AOC is the inverse of Trump.
She has a fan base, she has a populist agenda, and she uses social media to fire up her base.
AOC is not based, she's a leftist populist shill.
Interesting.
Sir Patrick the Great says, you guys gather the best.
I used to be way far right, but as I got older, I realized who cares.
But for real, I'm libertarian with a right pole.
Y'all stay safe and much love from Texas.
Appreciate it.
Dalimar says, you wonder why the cop might have been pissed.
He got sent there to collect her because she wasn't doing the protocol, answering text calls, and I'll bet the staff played games with him at the door.
There it is.
ian crossland
Is that confirmed?
Is that why?
tim pool
She mentioned that she didn't go to the extraction point because she was scared of the other Congress people.
So then they call this cop saying... That's why he was angry.
Yup.
AOC is not following protocol.
She's not going to the extraction location.
Can you go and get her?
And then he's like, there's a riot going on.
People are freaking out and she's not following protocol.
jack murphy
Come on, lady.
Let's go.
I'm going to get in trouble.
tim pool
You're gonna get us killed.
Yeah, dude.
I have been oh man Do you want it you want to know what anger feels like I've done not only have I done hostile environment training, okay?
I think it was silly because I grew up on the south side of Chicago.
I don't need training for that I lived it, but I have been in say Ferguson's a good example I'm in Ferguson.
Gunshots ring out.
I hit the deck.
I look to my right.
My filmer producer, who's with me, hits the ground before.
I look to my right.
He's already on the ground.
I'm like, good man.
I look to my left and there's this journalist for one company going, looking around, just, lose fireworks?
And I'm like, Well, look, you know what?
I wasn't working with the guy, so I'm not really all that frustrated, but I am just kinda like, dude, are you insane?
You have no idea what you're doing.
You are going to get yourself killed.
And there was another moment where I was in a particular situation, and someone I was working with, and gunshots rang out, and I hit the deck, along with literally everyone else around us, but this one person that was sent to work with me was standing around, camera, you know, filming, just being like, it's fireworks!
And I'm like, okay, now you are going to get me killed.
So I can understand why that cop was probably mad.
It's like, I'm going to have to now risk my neck running into this building because she wouldn't get out when she was told to.
And then she changed the story.
Why wouldn't the cop tell us?
Okay.
unidentified
Sure.
jack murphy
I'm sure she has a reputation too.
tim pool
Yup.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
She hates cops.
She, she rags on them.
She supports the riots and he's like, I got to go.
This is nuts.
West, uh, let's see.
Westside powersportscdewparts says, Hey Tim, the videos behind the paywall are pure gold.
The way you use your f-bombs is so poetic.
I peed myself a little when Ian was talking about his current dating situation.
Absolutely epic.
unidentified
Dude.
tim pool
Apparently some ladies.
ian crossland
Dating during COVID's a pain.
That's the brief.
tim pool
Yeah, for those that aren't familiar, if you go to TimCast.com and check out our members-only content, Ian basically broke down and was like, COVID has made it impossible to date.
And then Luke was like, are there any ladies out there?
ian crossland
Luke's got my back.
tim pool
I'm Cupid.
luke rudkowski
I'm literally Cupid.
ian crossland
He's been keeping tabs.
We're working the system.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that's true.
And I want to really decentralize the internet.
I think that's kind of the direction we're heading.
us in you a bit into a billion dollar empire to join the ranks of Elon Musk
and based individualist bad a's of the people more power to you yeah I think
ian crossland
that's true I and I want to really decentralize the internet I think that's
kind of the direction we're heading it's pretty exciting well did we talk about
tim pool
Oh, we didn't talk about this live, so I'll keep it relatively vague.
The general idea that I had was to, instead of trying to create a new social network that's like some kind of Patreon system, it's about creating a white-label software that anyone... I think I talked about this on the show last week or something.
A white-label software that's open source that anybody could just install on their server and then drag and drop some logos and then have their own version of Patreon that they control with their own merchant account.
People sign up, but Yeah, there's a program called Riot, which uses the Matrix Protocol, and it looks like that might be the future of decentralized messaging.
using the software.
So if someone says, I demand that you ban this person, hey man, they're
running their own server on their own node. I can't control that, but
it does connect with my node so people can cross comment.
ian crossland
Yeah. There's a program called Riot, which is use the matrix
protocol. And it looks like that might be the future of decentralized
messaging. It's kind of like discord, but an open source version
tim pool
of imagine like Patreon, though, with subscribers.
Free and paid.
And then, if, like, you go to, like, Ian's, you know, Ian's World, whatever, and then you're, like, watching Ian talk about, you know, DMT and time and whatever, you can also click the Community tab, and it'll show you the community of all of the noted networks that are popping up.
And they're individually controlled, not by anyone.
Ian has no control over them.
ian crossland
Building an AI that can, like, watch video and tell you, like, you take a picture of this gorilla and then it'll search all the videos on the network and find, like, what is this gorilla and tell you about it, like, kind of like a wiki, but through video.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Let's do another Super Chat.
Pops Vindaloo says, Luke, thinking about starting the RV life.
Any suggestions on where to look for an affordable RV?
luke rudkowski
Usually different marketplaces.
I really, really don't like Facebook, but they have a marketplace.
Craigslist is also really good.
Being able to do research on your RV, what you specifically need is crucially important.
There's a lot of lemons out there, there's a lot of water damage out there you gotta be careful of, and it really took me a long time to make sure I got something good.
I got a good deal on it.
And a lot of the dealerships, you know, a lot of the big ones, they're just like car dealerships.
So you know what you're getting yourself into when you're dealing with car dealerships.
But just keep an eye out.
Look at marketplaces.
Look at individual sales.
Those usually are the best ones.
tim pool
Greg McCormick says, Tim, Rashida Tlaib only opposed spending bill because money was being sent to Israel.
She has been consistently anti-Semitic.
This wasn't a coincidence.
ian crossland
Peace.
tim pool
Love the show.
Well, I hear you.
I do.
It's an issue of AOC's support for the corporate establishment machine just blindly voting for Pelosi, blindly supporting these bills, and I can absolutely disagree with Rashida Tlaib, but that's the point I was making.
I really do disagree with her on basically everything.
But the way I framed it was, I think AOC is lying, and I think Richie Detlef genuinely believes the things she's saying.
And that's the difference.
So, not someone I would vote for, but I understand, like, I think she actually believes this stuff.
I don't think AOC believes what she's saying.
When she first got elected, she changed her opinions on a bunch of things and got criticized by the left for it.
jack murphy
You can respect authenticity.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
jack murphy
Even if you don't agree.
Even if you think it's wrong and bad.
lydia smith
Yeah, I like authentic.
tim pool
All right.
Gabriel Nestor says, Tim, I'm a history teacher in California.
Needless to say, I'm looking for different things.
I'm 29.
You inspired me to make a mini YouTube documentary on hyperbole in the media.
Super excited to release.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Glad to hear it.
jack murphy
Congratulations.
Good luck with that, dude.
tim pool
Sensational.
Stan says please contact your house rep about HR 127 stand up for our rights right to bear arms right to privacy
I am not.
Join Tim's website that last one was really great Yeah, but HR 127 is insane. I don't think it'll pass. Are
you familiar with this?
I am NOT it basically says you can't buy a gun unless you're 21. You got to get liability insurance
You got to get licensed by the Attorney General. It's like a whole bunch of crazy mandatory psych evaluations banning
50 BMGs Every every gun is registered and taxed. So it's like
It's hardcore, but it's unconstitutional in a very obvious way.
The problem is, keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Yet many places have already violated that, and there's no, there's no, no one's gonna, like, nothing's being done about it.
So, don't underestimate it.
Make sure you speak out against these things.
You know, I think it's, it's, it's a pretty extreme bill.
Javi J says, question, I am a Slovak, Jewish, Japanese, Mexican.
Does that make me neutral on the oppression scale?
I am so confused.
Oh, no, no, no. You're super oppressed.
The Asian kind of negates it a little bit, but you know, you're
you're more oppressed than you are an oppressor.
luke rudkowski
So Asian makes you more white, though.
So I think you're still technically white.
ian crossland
And you know where the word Slav comes from?
Slav.
They were the slaves.
tim pool
Is that it?
ian crossland
That's where the word slave comes from.
tim pool
I thought it was the other way around.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's the other way around.
tim pool
Like, slave comes from the word slavic.
ian crossland
From the word slav, isn't that crazy?
You're not a slave, Luke.
luke rudkowski
You're a free man.
How dare you insult my people?
ian crossland
Oh, that was a double negative.
What have I done?
tim pool
All right, here we go.
Christoph Westrom says, keep up the great work, Tim.
Ian, be my shaman.
I want to try DMT.
I am a gorilla, Yankee in the holler on YouTube.
Just started, don't judge me yet, harumph.
lydia smith
Very cool.
ian crossland
I will say I saw the prototype of the new shirt coming out.
I posted an image on Instagram, but that is not the image on the shirt, and I'll send it to you.
It's someone else's.
It's very cool.
tim pool
Our designer was like, Ian doesn't like my design.
ian crossland
No, I love her design.
And it's very cool.
tim pool
Ian floating.
And it says, free the code.
ian crossland
I'm going to get one immediately.
tim pool
Yeah.
Katie Rouge says, please try to get Dave Chappelle, please.
Yes, I will.
I'll go outside as soon as the show shows over and wait for a shooting star to wish that Dave Chappelle will come on the show.
ian crossland
I love that Dave and Joe and Elon are all friends hanging out in Austin.
I don't think Dave lives in Austin.
Joe Rogan and Elon Musk is who I'm talking about.
There's pictures of them at the comedy club hanging out.
I love that they're all friends now.
jack murphy
They're doing a tour.
They were doing shows together.
tim pool
Chappelle and Rogan.
Dave is, I think it's fair to say, the greatest comedian of our generation.
jack murphy
100% from my hometown, from my neighborhood.
Went to high school with people that I know.
He came up in the DC comedy clubs.
He's a DC product.
He's smart, funny, hysterical, an amazing storyteller.
He makes the craft look effortless.
Love that guy.
tim pool
And I really loved the Netflix special because he did a whole bunch of really offensive things.
He did the, the, the, like the old school offensive Chinese stereotype thing.
And, uh, it was, it, it, it, it was like, it was bold.
It was meant to trigger.
It was, he was, he was literally trying to trigger sense, like people's like, you know, PC sensibilities and I respect him for doing it.
And I'm part Asian.
I thought it was fantastic.
jack murphy
He makes the rounds though.
He doesn't just stop on one.
And if you get everybody, then it's okay.
unidentified
Like South His bit on the Kung Flu was really good.
Yeah, that was good.
tim pool
Trump's not supposed to be funny?
He's not supposed to do that.
The Kung Flu.
Oh no, it's offensive.
Am I allowed to say these things because I'm part Asian?
There was a funny video.
It's from CollegeHumor.
And there's a panel of full Asian, half Asian, and quarter Asian judging people who are part Asian on what they're allowed to do or not do.
And it was really, really funny.
So it's like, you know, this guy comes up and he's like, I'm one-eighth Asian.
Am I allowed to use chopsticks to eat my food?
And then they're like, the panel discusses.
It's just a really, it's, you gotta, you gotta watch it.
It's funny.
Then there's like, at the end, a guy walks in who's like white and he goes, my great-great-grandfather was black.
And all of the judges go, you're black.
So it was like, but it was college humor.
It was a really funny, because it is a funny take on, you know, the PC politics of, like, when you're part Asian, what constitutes actually having the right to make offensive jokes or whatever.
luke rudkowski
Tim, I'll allow it.
lydia smith
OK, OK, cool.
tim pool
But we're not the same race, so you're not allowed to make fun of Asians.
luke rudkowski
No, no, no, no.
But I'm a person of color.
Yeah.
You're not.
You're, like, white now.
ian crossland
That's insane.
tim pool
No joke.
ian crossland
What the heck just happened?
tim pool
You know what?
Interestingly though, it is a good point.
luke rudkowski
Are you mad that my people are finally getting justice from all the horrible servitude, all the horrible barriers that are in front of the Polish people, the Nazis, the communists?
Don't make me go off here about the plight of the Polish people.
And you're mad that we're finally getting our reparations.
tim pool
Let me tell you a story.
I have a Ukrainian friend and she was telling me that it's really, really difficult to come to the United States.
And she's a feminist leftist in Ukraine.
And so I try explaining to her what's going on with critical race theory in American culture and feminism, and she's confused.
She says like, you know, I have friends who say that you are far right.
And I was like, you've known me for how many years?
Is that true?
And she goes, no, it makes no sense.
And I was like, let me explain to you like American feminism.
And so, we started talking about, you know, she wants to come to the United States, but it's very difficult.
I said, well, have you tried explaining to them that you're white?
And she laughed and said, my white privilege ends at the cover of my passport.
Ukraine, you're not, you don't have privilege.
So, is Ukrainian Slavic?
It is?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So, it's an interesting point.
Like, I always bring that up to people when I'm like, if you think there's white privilege, let me pay for your flight to the Ukraine.
You know, or I shouldn't say the Ukraine, it's just Ukraine now.
Let me pay for your flight and you can go hang out there.
Some of these people make $100 a month.
I think the average income, the average salary for middle class people is like $400 a month.
Not privileged.
All right, let's read.
We got Adam Davidson saying, Tim, on Seth Rogen note, check out his hilarious interaction with the great Gad Saad.
Hashtag toasters.
There you go.
Joey JK Pitt says, your cab ride story reminds me of multiple times with my job dealing with customer service.
I tell tow workers to kill them with kindness.
Yeah.
Aniel Reed says, I love you, Ian.
I love when you all talk metaphysics and the occult.
Yes, yes, yes.
ian crossland
Oh, well, thank you.
tim pool
Oh my god, this is awesome says, Ian is science.
ian crossland
Well, here we go.
That's a little extreme.
I don't know if I'd go that far.
tim pool
Windy Gusset says, in a naked baked bean wrestling match between Ian and Tim, who do the team think would win and why?
ian crossland
Well, what are the rules?
luke rudkowski
What are the rules?
ian crossland
Black beans?
Are we talking?
Yeah, yeah.
I have long fingernails.
Tim doesn't have hair in a pole.
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
It could get dirty.
tim pool
I can kick really, really well.
ian crossland
Tim's fast.
He's like stabby.
tim pool
All right, do you want to read this one that's facetiously mean, Ian?
ian crossland
Yeah, you gave me two good ones, so let's.
tim pool
John Smith says, Ian has the memory of an elephant and the critical thinking skills of a potato.
ian crossland
I think elephants have a good memory.
tim pool
They have the best memory.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
So that's why it was like facetiously... That's odd, because I would have flipped it around.
I think my thinking skills are better, but my memory sometimes is like a potato.
A potato!
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
BN says, I'm free-spirited and can't be tamed.
Please legislate my speech and control what ideas I'm able to hear, think, and share.
lydia smith
Yeah, boy.
tim pool
You got it.
Martin Edgar says, Trump is the new Pluto.
What does that mean?
unidentified
Huh.
lydia smith
Oh, the planet that doesn't exist.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Chris Hill brings up a really good point.
He says, they did celebrate winning on November 7th.
There was a mob at the White House playing YMCA to mock Trump's last rally, and they were all jumping in the street and swinging champagne and stuff.
But then after that, it got really mournful.
You know what I mean?
It's like a weird... Now they're all angry and like, you know.
ian crossland
What have we done?
tim pool
What have we done?
The journalists were freaking out.
They're... I don't know what they're gonna do.
Trumpism.
Nice try.
Prod Chucho says, Hey IRL gang, what's y'all favorite donut?
ian crossland
Glazed?
lydia smith
Glazed?
tim pool
That's your answer?
I would agree, actually.
lydia smith
What do you think, Luke?
tim pool
Jelly?
jack murphy
I'm going glazed with the chocolate icing.
ian crossland
Tim made some glazed kind of donut-y.
unidentified
They had that awesome glaze on them.
ian crossland
It was like a cinnamon glaze.
That was really good.
tim pool
It was brown sugar, cinnamon, vanilla, a little bit of peanut oil, some heavy cream, and then we cooked it.
ian crossland
Oh, we have a deep fryer on the way.
tim pool
Yeah, we have deep fryer coming.
And then we made these deep fried little discs.
They were like donuts.
And then we just tossed them in this glaze and people went nuts.
jack murphy
Did you get one of those home fryers about yay big?
Because I got one of those.
Yeah.
It's too small after a while.
You just you try doing wings.
You're doing like 35 batches.
I'm ready to get a commercial sized fryer.
ian crossland
I'm down.
tim pool
It's full size.
Just give me 50 wings at once.
jack murphy
Yes.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Ravine Payne says, Raven Payne, sorry.
So I really want to know, is Luke single?
Dibs and AMC plus GME diamond hands to the moon also need some sort of video where everyone is high as hell the whole time like Ian is.
I really want to see where things go.
Maybe the tables turn.
unidentified
That'd be funny.
ian crossland
We could either take acid or DMT.
Tim doesn't like the way I talk about illegal stuff.
tim pool
No, I'm saying, I don't do drugs.
ian crossland
Tim, let's get stoned and talk about whatever.
luke rudkowski
I think YouTube will take that down, won't they?
ian crossland
Yeah, we'd have to put it on, like, the private thing.
No, I'm just kidding.
That phase of my life is over.
tim pool
So, Richard Cook says, UK House of Lords has many political appointees, not just landed gentry.
They are appointed by the government on the day for life, like SCOTUS.
Interesting.
Grant Thompson says, if you're not bringing up HR 127, you are woefully not paying attention.
Browse it.
Look for the punishment for not being licensed.
If you are going to allow this to happen, then you accept your chains.
We talked about this!
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
Promise.
tim pool
McGuffin says, Ian's wrong all the time, 60% of the time.
JK, man, you're good peeps.
Might have to cancel you for grabbing women, though.
Luke's a great addition.
unidentified
Thank you.
ian crossland
I never grabbed a woman.
lydia smith
Don't do it.
tim pool
Yeah, what was that about?
luke rudkowski
Well, you made a statement earlier, and I was like, that's when you get tasered, Ian.
ian crossland
Advice for young people that are looking to get into relationships, and when you meet someone Be willing to offer to shake their hand.
I found that just making some sort of physical contact when you first meet someone really kind of breaks a barrier and it makes it easier to get to know them.
jack murphy
Mind-blowing, dude.
We should make this a custom.
ian crossland
I know.
It's crazy to think that we have to continuously teach the young people the things that we think are common.
jack murphy
Oh, I see.
lydia smith
Especially with COVID.
ian crossland
It's why I thought about doing porn.
Cause I want to show people how to have sex.
tim pool
You're going to teach people how to make love.
Yeah.
All right.
Uh, Mike E says, can you deep fry with vinegar?
I know someone with 25 gallons of it, right?
ian crossland
That would be, get me in touch with that.
jack murphy
Oh, that is a good use of the beans thinking about it now.
I just ordered a bunch of oil wrestling or whatever it was.
tim pool
MusicDCguy1 says, being how Ian has his view on everything as energy, I would love to take him on a paranormal investigation.
ian crossland
I think we should bring Tim, too.
We talk and watch those ghost shows from time to time and kind of laugh about them.
tim pool
Yeah, it's so obviously fake.
It's like, I love watching them, though, because it's funny.
It's funny.
And they know it's funny.
But, like, a guy walks... Okay, you've been doing this for ten years.
You've been to thousands of different haunted houses, and you're still scared when someone goes, What's that?
Oh, I hear noise!
unidentified
Oh, dude!
tim pool
And then they all run out of the building and they're like, oh, and they're filming themselves freaking out.
ian crossland
But there's something, we were talking about the Higgs field last night and the God particle, the Higgs boson, and that there's this field where it seems like energy is like cracking and turning into matter.
So, you know, if we can develop the right sensors, maybe.
tim pool
We need to do more shows, actually.
So as we expand, TimCast.com.
We're planning on actually doing other sites as well.
And I think we, you know, we talked about this for a while.
I actually did a couple episodes.
Cassandra wrote one episode for us.
It was like a 10 or 15 minute long podcast edited with music.
And it was about the hauntings of Disney, of Disney World, I think.
And like people see Walt Disney like walking around and like appearing in a window and creepy stuff like that.
So we've done a couple of those and they were huge successes.
You know, so we definitely want to do Weird Wild Paranormal Conspiracy, and I think we just got to do new shows for it.
And I'm totally down to do it, and I think it'll be coming soon probably, because I don't see why not.
Maybe like a weekend thing.
You know, we'll see.
That being said, I think we're going to move now to the members-only content.
So go to TimCast.com.
And once we wrap up here, we're going to then record the segment.
So usually around maybe like 11, it will be up.
And it should be an interesting discussion around, I think we'll be talking about critical race theory.
Luke is now a newly defined person of color, and there's some stuff around this that we'll get into.
So if you haven't, go to TimCast.com, sign up.
You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Mines at TimCast.
My other YouTube channels are YouTube.com slash TimCast, YouTube.com slash TimCast News.
And we do this show Monday through Friday, live at 8 p.m.
We'll be back tomorrow, of course.
Jack, I hear that you got stuff going on.
jack murphy
I do, I do.
Jack Murphy Live on Twitter.
And if you're interested in the values I'm talking about, masculinity, brotherhood, sovereignty, and you're looking for a community of people with like-minded values, check out the Liminal Order, liminal-order.com.
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New videos every day.
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Thanks a lot.
luke rudkowski
Well, thank you, Whiteys.
I appreciate you guys letting me actually have a voice here.
But the shirt that I'm wearing right now says all my favorite channels have been demonetized or deleted.
There's been a lot of demonetizations today, especially with channels like Ford Fisher.
I know that hurts, it happened to me before, so definitely go check out Ford, but if you want to buy the shirt, you can on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
But one of the best, smartest things you could do is sign up on my email list, and therefore, there is no big technocratic middle person saying who I could talk to and who I can't.
One-on-one communication on wearechange.org in the top right-hand corner.
Put in your email, it's very easy, and I could talk to you, which is very important for me and my independent media organization.
I hear someone is a single Pringle.
ian crossland
Oh, that would be me.
jack murphy
Join Ian's OnlyFans, guys.
luke rudkowski
Coming soon.
unidentified
Naked yoga.
tim pool
He will teach you how to make love.
ian crossland
To the moon.
Go slow.
Tantra's real.
You let the woman do most of the moving.
We can get into that in the paywall content.
tim pool
Well, that's your OnlyFans content.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
We'll go there in OnlyFans.
Jack, thank you for coming.
I love you.
You're such a force of positivity and understanding negativity and using it and manipulate your negative jujitsu.
Liminal Order is awesome.
unidentified
Thank you.
ian crossland
I know you guys are blowing up and I want to just really shout out the Liminal Order.
That's such a cool opportunity to be around you while you're building that.
jack murphy
Thank you very much.
It's mutual.
ian crossland
And you guys can follow me at Ian Crossland on the internet.
I'm building up my Twitch channel right now.
I'm going Twitch partner.
The road to prosperity.
lydia smith
And I am Sour Patch Lids.
I am at Sour Patch Lids on Twitter and Mines and then Real Sour Patch Lids on Instagram and Gab.
I remember this time.
Good for me.
tim pool
The next segment will be at TimCast.com.
Thank you all so much for hanging out and we will see you all there.
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