Dec. 19, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| you ladies and gentlemen the United States has been invaded by | ||
| Chinese communist authoritarians and the incoming president-elect is | ||
| compromised His son has accepted money from Chinese communist-connected individuals, and the incoming president actually flew his son on government property to China. | ||
| All of that was true, right? | ||
| I'm pretty sure I got it right? | ||
| Yeah, Air Force Two. | ||
| They flew together. | ||
| Now, as for the beginning part, I'm joined by China Uncensored, the host. | ||
| Do you guys want to introduce yourselves, and then would you like to fact-check what I just said? | ||
| I'm not certified by Facebook, so I don't really see that my... Excellent, then it must be true. | ||
| It must be. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| So who are you guys? | ||
| I'm Chris Chappell, the host of China Uncensored, and... I'm Shelley Zhang, the humor ninja of China Uncensored. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I'm not funny without her. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Luke's also hanging out. | ||
| We got Luke Krakowski chilling over here. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I have to say I am disappointed, angry and frustrated, Tim. | ||
| The Emmys never got in contact with me for my amazing acting yesterday with your little arms. | ||
| And if Andrew Como could win an Emmy, so can I. Anything can happen. | ||
| And also, specifically, thank you everyone who reached out to me through Venmo and Cash App, through Luke We Are Change. | ||
| I got like 500 bucks. | ||
| It means a lot to me. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| The community here, I have to say, is utterly amazing and super funny. | ||
| And I appreciate you guys a lot. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| We've got a lot to talk about today. | ||
| Of course, we've got Sour Patch Lids over producing and pushing all the buns. | ||
| So I opened by saying that the United States is being invaded by Chinese communist authoritarians. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| Well, I might have suggested that. | ||
| That's why I said it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, essentially, that is the big story. | ||
| That's how we kind of found ourselves making a satirical show about China news. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party is having a tremendous influence in US, well, the entire society, in politics, in media, in local level to the federal level. | ||
| And, you know, not a lot of people were talking about it when we started the show in 2012. | ||
| It's coming out now, though. | ||
| Yeah, so I've been covering quite a bit of news for a long time. | ||
| When I was working for the company Fusion in 2014, they actually did cover a big story. | ||
| I think this was the Nicaraguan Canal. | ||
| Are you guys familiar with the Nicaraguan Canal? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| China was essentially trying to bypass the Panama Canal, and it was a ridiculous project that would have destroyed a large freshwater aquifer and been very, very disastrous, but ultimately got abandoned. | ||
| So there have been reporters I've seen who have been tracking this stuff. | ||
| But it's never making, as far as I've seen, the big headlines, the front page of the New York Times, the things that are going on with China buying property in all of these different countries. | ||
| Like, they're buying up communities in certain places, owning all the land, and they're doing oil exploration in Africa, South America, they've got a ton of influence with security services in the South American countries, and it seems like probably I would say, in my opinion, the biggest threat to the United States and probably to what we would define as liberal democracy or constitutional republic, like the United States, is Chinese communist subversion. | ||
| I mean, I think that's definitely true. | ||
| And around the world, every time we talk to a, uh, you know, human rights activist from, you know, from Bolivia, from Cambodia, from Mauritania. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like they are always talking about how China is basically infiltrating their countries, paying off their dictators, um, putting their countries in debt, taking all their national resources. | ||
| So, you know, this is like very, it's been happening for years and people are only starting to realize it now, I think. | ||
| Might be too late. | ||
| I don't think it is too late. | ||
| It's definitely getting close to being too late, but it really depends on just the general American public. | ||
| Not just the American public, but in liberal democracies around the world. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| LeBron James said China good. | ||
| Steve Kerr too. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| LeBron James is famous. | ||
| He's actually very good. | ||
| He's more famous than us. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So he goes up there and he tells all these people, nah, chill. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| China's all right. | ||
| Well, no, the NBA has had a huge backlash. | ||
| Specifically, this was one of the major turning points, I think, in the past year or two of people becoming aware of the influence the Chinese Communist Party has. | ||
| When Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey, he tweeted something in support of the protests happening in Hong Kong. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| NBA has like a four billion dollar contract. | ||
| Well, he tweeted free Hong Kong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And like the NBA has a huge contract in China. | ||
| Four billion dollars. | ||
| Is that about right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah, so there there was talk of like them firing him. | ||
| And there were even like Americans who went to basketball games, like holding like free Hong Kong signs. | ||
| Yes, I remember. | ||
| Yeah, so this was a case where like people saw, oh, wait, Americans are being censored in America because of what's happening in China. | ||
| And so that was a big moment of like, you know, maybe LeBron James, maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about. | ||
| The NBA had a basketball camp in Xinjiang where the Uyghurs are being imprisoned. | ||
| They only stopped that like a month or two ago like this year that like they had a Partnership with a Chinese, you know organization that was doing a basketball. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| They could have waved to the Mulan production Also, very interestingly there's some reports coming out of Australia that Nike that of course hires LeBron James and is a Almost going to make him a billionaire, that they're also using some Uighur Muslim slaves in order to produce some of their products. | ||
| Sneakers and of course also the NBA jerseys that a lot of the NBA players wear. | ||
| What do you make of these kind of reports coming from Australia? | ||
| Do you think they're legitimate and do you think there's any credence behind them? | ||
| Well, I think one sad thing that does need to be mentioned is that you have companies like Apple and Nike, like, actually lobbying against a bill going through Congress right now about forced labor in China. | ||
| They don't want it to pass. | ||
| And this is the big issue that you see, that, you know, if you treat China like a country that has concentration camps, you can't treat it like a normal country, you know? | ||
| We should all be investing money and doing a lot of business. | ||
| Yeah, it's great. | ||
| Buy their bonds. | ||
| Don't buy their bonds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think the, it was the Australian Strategic Policy Institute that did that study. | ||
| And they're, they did a lot of research into this and it's pretty legit. | ||
| Like, I don't think it's, the Chinese Communist Party got really pissed off about them publishing that. | ||
| Like, they're basically punishing Australia right now with a big trade war. | ||
| And one of the things that they were mad about was this particular think tank talking about the Uyghur stuff. | ||
| Like, they had this, like, 14-point bulletin of the things that Australia's done wrong. | ||
| And that was on the list. | ||
| Didn't the Chinese government release a fake video of allegedly an Australian soldier hurting a small Afghani? | ||
| It was a photo. | ||
| Yeah, it was a propaganda poster. | ||
| It was an art illustration. | ||
| So I think it's safe to say that relations between China and Australia aren't really the best right now. | ||
| The funniest thing that happened recently is the fact that they stopped Australian coal imports as part of this trade war thing. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And now there are several cities in China that are running out of power because they were dependent on these coal imports. | ||
| Unnecessary sacrifice for the greater good. | ||
| And, you know, so now, like, there's reports that they're, like, doing, like, rolling blackout kind of things because they're running out of power, because they, like, stopped the Australian coal, because they want to punish Australia. | ||
| They shot themselves in the foot. | ||
| They're also in a really critical situation with food supplies because they had unprecedented flooding this summer. | ||
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That's right. | |
| And so they've been importing more grain than ever, like it's up 30% from the previous year. | ||
| The floods were hitting Wuhan, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Wuhan has had a very bad year. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| A very bad year. | ||
| Of all the cities. | ||
| I suppose there's other cities that had bad years, though, in China, so it's not just Wuhan. | ||
| Well, yeah, they probably all had a pretty bad year. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, let's jump to the first big story. | ||
| Before we do, make sure you guys smash that like button, and share this video, share the podcast if you really do think we're doing a good job, and help support the channel. | ||
| But we have this breaking news coming out of the State Department, and I'll tell you the first and the weirdest thing. | ||
| Nobody's written about this. | ||
| We were sitting here waiting all day. | ||
| There's a big announcement. | ||
| Mike Pompeo said executive action was coming later today. | ||
| It was gonna be big news. | ||
| And a lot of people were wondering, would this be Trump firing off that executive order over foreign election interference, finally taking control and winning the election? | ||
| And no, it's... | ||
| U.S. | ||
| imposes sanctions on People's Republic of China actors linked to malign activities. | ||
| So it's a lot to do with mass surveillance, military modernization, human rights abuses, and the South China Sea. | ||
| And it's about sanctions against specific members of the Chinese Communist Party, who, of course, the State Department, Trump's administration have been railing against a whole lot. | ||
| So it's not what a lot of Trump supporters were crossing their fingers | ||
| for, but it is still pretty significant action. | ||
| From the latest actions we've seen from the US government, one of the biggest impacts that I can say will hit you is | ||
| that when you go to Best Buy, | ||
| and you want to get that fancy little gimbal to film things with, | ||
| or you want a drone, you ain't gonna get it. | ||
| U.S. | ||
| government adds DJI to commerce blacklist over ties to the Chinese government. | ||
| American companies will be forbidden from exporting technology to the drone maker. | ||
| So, perhaps we can still end up getting it here. | ||
| It doesn't seem like it'd be likely. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Do you guys know about this? | ||
| What's going on with the DJI thing? | ||
| I think it's generally they've been added to this blacklist that means that U.S. | ||
| companies can't export technology to them. | ||
| So they can still send it here then? | ||
| Yeah, I think like Huawei can still, for example, sell phones in the U.S., but they just can't, you know, buy U.S. | ||
| like semiconductor chips. | ||
| That's kind of weird because it wasn't like part of the reason why we weren't buying technology from China is because they're putting secret stuff in it to spy on us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think like legally this Commerce Department entity list is only like can prevent U.S. | ||
| companies from exporting things or from selling technology to them. | ||
| But you're allowed to buy whatever you want, I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think it's about time we we ramped up. | ||
| This is my opinion. | ||
| Maybe, you know, you guys are the experts. | ||
| Maybe we should sanction China to an absolutely absurd degree across the board until they end what they're doing to the Uyghur Muslims. | ||
| Well, you'd need to get Wall Street on board with that, and that might be pretty challenging. | ||
| I got a shed full of pitchforks and torches. | ||
| Do you got a couple thousand people? | ||
| Maybe we can occupy Wall Street. | ||
| Hey, has that ever been tried before? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Have careers ever been built on that before? | ||
| No, interestingly, it was tried. | ||
| They never actually did. | ||
| They never made it to Wall Street. | ||
| They went to Zuccotti Park down the road. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I was there the day they walked into Zuccotti Park. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| Yeah, very weird. | ||
| But we have, what, Disney did Mulan, you know, where they have concentration camps, and then they thank... Education camps, right? | ||
| Concentration camps. | ||
| Vocational training. | ||
| Camps to lift them out of poverty, isn't that what they said? | ||
| And to prevent extremism. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| All for the good. | ||
| So Disney famously thanked the, what was it called? | ||
| the Xinjiang Public Security Bureau. | ||
| A country that has public security bureaus and Ministry of Security. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And they kind of defended themselves by going like, well, we're just supposed to thank the areas that helped us. | ||
| We filmed lots of places. | ||
| Some had concentration camps. | ||
| Apparently. | ||
| Some of the people we thanked were responsible for those concentration camps. | ||
| You know, it happens. | ||
| It's not that we're thanking them for the genocide. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's that we're just grateful that some of these people won't be alive anymore. | ||
| That's a family guy joke, by the way. | ||
| The official Chinese communist stance is that this is vocational training centers that are a part of a poverty aviliation scheme to help train poor rural workers to learn Chinese and find employment. | ||
| And they have to shave their heads and make them wear jumpsuits, right? | ||
| It's almost like a beautiful work of art, the way that they've managed to make all this propaganda feed into each other. | ||
| Because one of the biggest propaganda elements that they use in China is we've lifted millions of people out of poverty and they'll use that as like a human rights thing like they'll be like whenever like human rights day rolls around like December 10th uh they'll be like you know our biggest human rights achievement is lifting millions of people out of poverty even though | ||
| They destroyed the economy in the first place. | ||
| And then when they backed off and stopped, you know, controlling everything and let people make money again, people lifted themselves out of poverty. | ||
| But the other part of it is they kind of use that to cover up all their other human rights atrocities. | ||
| So if you talk about, you know, being out of poverty as a human right, that's... | ||
| So just, you know, we kind of made some, I guess we can call it a dark humor, crude joke, very, very dark. | ||
| But I did kind of rip off Family Guy in that one, in my defense. | ||
| But considering the actual severity of the things that China's doing, particularly in this area, shouldn't we stop American companies from investing in this kind of stuff? | ||
| Or from having factories, from having production in China, until they stop doing this? | ||
| Yeah, as I said earlier, it's an issue of like, people don't think of China as like a horrible authoritarian regime that has concentration camps. | ||
| They think of it because China has been very successful at a soft power push and buying off, it's called elite capture, basically buying off politicians, people in the media. | ||
| Wall Street, like you said. | ||
| Wall Street. | ||
| So it's just an issue of like, Most Americans don't know it. | ||
| Like, Americans really understood what was happening. | ||
| I don't think they would tolerate Nike trying to, you know, shoot down a forced labor bill. | ||
| I mean, they're doing it. | ||
| They are doing that, but I don't think people really know about that. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| And that's kind of scary. | ||
| You know, I've had conversations with... I have a friend from Ukraine. | ||
| And when I was there during the big, you know, it's 2013, 24, I think it was 24, well, 2013, when they had the big protest that ultimately led to separatist movement and conflict. | ||
| I was talking to a friend who was talking about how she's gonna make the world a better place, very lefty, leftist kind of mentality. | ||
| And I said, but do you really believe that? | ||
| I mean, the computer you're using was made at the Foxconn labs in China, where people are walking off the buildings in mass suicide because of how horrific the conditions are. | ||
| And she had no idea. | ||
| And it actually made her cry. | ||
| When she was like, but I'm trying to help my people. | ||
| She was like, I'm trying to help the world be better. | ||
| And I said, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You're trying to help yourself and your community. | ||
| And I'm fine with that. | ||
| I can respect that. | ||
| You know, you want the people where you live to do better. | ||
| But you realize the fact that you have that computer and that phone. | ||
| You have people working in essentially slave labor conditions, jammed in these tiny boxes, and it's so bad, they actually put up suicide nets around the building to catch people from just walking off the edge. | ||
| I was like, when you give them money, you're propping that system up, and you're actually making it worse. | ||
| That kind of made her, you know, it was kind of harsh. | ||
| She kind of had a hard realization of what was going on, you know? | ||
| Well, actually, I think to an extent, if people were focused more on building up their communities, you know, the issues like the when China joined the World Trade Organization, like American manufacturing got gutted, lots of jobs went to China, you know, it's, it's insane that because of, you know, various regulations, it's cheaper to make stuff in China and sale it all the way around the world, rather than having it made You're telling me, man. | ||
| Down the street. | ||
| Skateboards. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Skateboards. | ||
| The wood comes from Canada. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| They ship it to China. | ||
| They make it into a skateboard and ship it back to the U.S. | ||
| Now, some of that's been changing a bit. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Now, some of the manufacturing's done in Mexico. | ||
| But that was always the craziest thing to me. | ||
| They're like, we make our boards from 100% pure rock Canadian maple. | ||
| And I'm like, wow, where's your factory? | ||
| In China. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| So you get the wood from Canada, send it to China, then send it back? | ||
| That's insane! | ||
| And that is the cheaper option. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's something wrong. | ||
| And it's because the people in China are being paid trash, and there's no, you know, look, if you hire someone in North America, guess what? | ||
| You gotta pay taxes, you gotta pay healthcare, in many circumstances, and the wages are typically much higher. | ||
| So these big companies have found a way to essentially extract What's what's left of the value of the US and China's found a way because what essentially happens is The American workers lose their jobs and make no money then they eventually can't even buy the product So the rich people extract the money from the poor people and then the people getting paid are in China And then eventually there's nothing left for the people in this country | ||
| It's a win-win for the super-rich. | ||
| That was essentially a blueprint of what Henry Kissinger, Richard Nixon, and David Rockefeller had proposed when they went to China and, quote, opened up China to the rest of the world. | ||
| And that was such a significant meeting. | ||
| And we still have to understand, the person who essentially blueprinted this, who made this happen, Henry Kissinger, He's still around being rewarded and seen as some great kind of diplomat. | ||
| Meanwhile, when we actually see the ramifications of his actions, the consequences are severe and they don't work out in anyone's favor except for the super rich. | ||
| So I don't know if you guys know a lot about the opening of China, but I think you guys probably know more than me about that. | ||
| Well, gosh, that's a huge topic. | ||
| Did you see that Kissinger was in the news a few weeks ago for advising Biden to basically reset relations with China? | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So the same guy who made the blueprints is now telling Biden what to do. | ||
| Well, Trump fired him. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He purged the advisory board of the Pentagon, which included Kissinger. | ||
| I was honestly shocked to hear that he had a position that he could still be fired from. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| And he's still alive! | ||
| He advises the Pope, okay? | ||
| Barack Obama's national security advisor said that he... Susan Rice? | ||
| No, no, no, there's a different one. | ||
| I believe his name was O'Neill, said that he takes his daily orders from Henry Kissinger when he was the acting national security advisor. | ||
| So Kissinger has a lot of influence, a lot of powers, but we see where his allegiance lies, especially with the policies that he set forward that had these huge ramifications and essentially destroyed all the manufacturing, blue-collar, middle-class jobs, and they took them and replaced them in China, where now we have all of our goods, all of our resources sent to them to be processed by sometimes slaves, sometimes the Uyghurs, sometimes by individuals who have no other option, But to make your little goods and they send them back to you so the super rich could sell you them on Amazon and Walmart. | ||
| Walmart, by the way, who's investing in Wuhan. | ||
| I don't know if people knew this, but Walmart is investing a huge, substantial amount of their profits to Wuhan of all places in the world. | ||
| It's a safer investment. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| In the United States, we protect the little guy to the best of our abilities. | ||
| It's not perfect by any means. | ||
| The elites certainly extract value and can suppress and oppress, you know, workers and unions and things like that. | ||
| Not that unions are perfect at all, by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
| But with, you know, investment into China, you know that if your company is successful, the Chinese Communist Party will put the boot down on anyone who dares oppose you. | ||
| So you think about the risks in the United States. | ||
| Labor laws, healthcare, ugh! | ||
| Why should we have to worry about the little people? | ||
| The elites in this country have found a way to extract the value, partly by sending things to be manufactured for dirt wages in China, and then once they've gutted the manufacturing base of this country, and everyone's saddled with ridiculous debt, and the only way people can think to get a job is to go to college, rack up massive debt, and then they can't find a job, the elites will just leave. | ||
| These are people with tons of money. | ||
| They've probably got money in Panama, or wherever they were storing it, Cayman Islands or whatever. | ||
| And they can easily just be like, well, you know, we've extracted all that we can out of this country. | ||
| It's nothing left but a withered husk. | ||
| Time to go to China! | ||
| Invest in the real estate or the companies there, and then you have protections based on the authoritarianism of that nation. | ||
| They're kind of screwing themselves, though. | ||
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Really? | |
| I don't have to say that. | ||
| Because they believe the Chinese Communist Party will not screw them. | ||
| And it's completely, like, so many people have been screwed going into China. | ||
| These businesses, tech companies, Famously, a few years ago, there was like a U.S. | ||
| wind turbine manufacturer made the solar, not solar, the wind turbines for wind power, and they found out that their Chinese joint venture partner, because legally you must have a Chinese company work with you when you go into China, you cannot go in by yourself. | ||
| As well as party cells. | ||
| You have to have, if you have more than 50 employees in China, you must have a Chinese Communist Party branch within your company. | ||
| This is law. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then they found out that their partner was basically replacing all of that. | ||
| They had stolen their property, like intellectual property, and had replaced the stuff in their wind turbines with their knockoff version. | ||
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Wow! | |
| That's amazing. | ||
| And they basically were able to take away all of their business. | ||
| And this is not like an isolated incident. | ||
| It happened to Segway. | ||
| There was a Chinese knockoff Segway. | ||
| that stole their technology, got so much bigger, and then they bought Segway. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then, like, nobody talks about it because you don't want to admit that this happened to you. | ||
| So then, like, these companies go in, they get screwed. | ||
| Then the pharma companies go in, they get screwed. | ||
| Hollywood goes in, they get screwed. | ||
| Wasn't Google supposed to go into China? | ||
| Weren't they making a special Chinese Google search engine, which they scrapped? | ||
| And aren't they still working on artificial intelligence with the Chinese government? | ||
| What's the story with that? | ||
| Well, so what happened with, like, back in like 2000, was it 7, 8, 9, Google was in China for a while, and they were trying to, like, kind of work within the system, you know, censor some stuff, but then, like, they hacked Gmail and got, like, the information of a bunch of Chinese citizens, and then they were at, to their credit at the time, were like, We're uncensoring our search, kick us out of China. | ||
| And then a few years later, they realized, well, they removed don't be evil from their byline. | ||
| And then they started secretly working on a censored search app. | ||
| That's a really weird thing to do for anyone. | ||
| Even if you were planning on being evil, wouldn't you at least lie? | ||
| But to be like, we've once said we didn't want to be evil, but now we're kind of thinking, you know, go either way, huh? | ||
| It was an interesting, I wonder who was behind that decision. | ||
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They were like, what happens if we have to be evil? | |
| You know, and then people are going to yell at us. | ||
| Let's just take it away. | ||
| And then when we are evil, we'll be like, well, we got rid of that thing. | ||
| That's why I don't blame them for what they were doing. | ||
| I do think that Google's Project Dragonfly was one example of something where people made enough of a stink about it that they could not handle the bad PR and scrapped it. | ||
| Yeah, even their employees were like, what? | ||
| Cause it was secret from the employees. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So yeah, that's a good example. | ||
| So the, uh, you know, go ahead. | ||
| Well, so somebody, somebody once framed for me pretty clearly, like if the Chinese communist party, like actually like sent in planes and troops and tanks and like took over the United States, you know, started gutting it, the manufacturing gutting, like all the technology in Silicon Valley replaced politicians, people would freak out and it would be like the biggest, bloodiest insurgency in history. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| They've bought off a lot of people in Hollywood and the media. | ||
| And the same things are happening. | ||
| Intellectual property theft up Silicon Valley. | ||
| So we have been invaded just what they call unrestricted warfare. | ||
| I'd put it this way. | ||
| If China invaded the U.S., started seizing large swaths of land, started compromising our politicians and sleeping with certain California congressmen, and stripping away intellectual property rights and | ||
| basically, you know, using our own companies against us. Censoring our movies. Then what would happen is | ||
| the American people, I tell you this, because the American people are lazy and complacent. | ||
| They'd roll over and be like, well, you know, I'm not gonna do anything about it. | ||
| We literally have Joe Biden, they say, is gonna be the president on January 20th. | ||
| He's gonna be inaugurated. | ||
| And we've already had one of his former family confidants, Tony Bobulinski, come out and say, I believe Joe Biden is compromised by China. | ||
| We have two investigations into the Biden family from Jim Biden, Joe's brother, and Hunter Biden. | ||
| And we know for a fact that Joe Biden himself flew his son on Air Force Two to China for these private | ||
| equity deals. | ||
| My first question is, I don't care what you got to say about any of these investigations. | ||
| Shouldn't we stop and be like, why is Joe Biden using government property to enrich his son? | ||
| Why did he bring his son on this plane to negotiate this deal? That's suspect already. | ||
| Father-son bonding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or outright and overt corruption by which 80 million people will support it. | ||
| So I tell you, if the Chinese were like, we're going to take over your country, you'd have 80 million people screaming and clapping and cheering for it. | ||
| Well, they don't. | ||
| How are they supposed to know about the Hunter Biden thing? | ||
| The media, like, actively censored that. | ||
| We got smeared for covering that, actually. | ||
| We did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That it was like, that it was far-right Russian disinformation. | ||
| Despite the criminal investigation that is actually going on. | ||
| And we knew about it. | ||
| And despite the email that happened in 2017 with Hunter Biden asking a very famous Chinese energy tycoon best wishes for the holidays and asking him for $10 million. | ||
| Or where he said, we're trying to get a room for, you know, we're trying to get an office for everybody, including this, you know, Chinese company, as well as Joe and whatever. | ||
| They were office mates, I suppose. | ||
| So look, there's enough, I would say, circumstantial evidence to, in my opinion, warrant riots in the streets | ||
| from the American people. | ||
| But you said you had pitchforks here. | ||
| Yeah, I have a squeegee. | ||
| That's as close as I can get to something on a stick. | ||
| So the pitchfork was a lie? | ||
| Yes, it was fake news. | ||
| I am disillusioned by this show. | ||
| I do have matches, though. | ||
| They're the really good ones. | ||
| They're the Strike Anywhere matches. | ||
| So you can hold it up and you'll look not nearly as angry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'll burn your fingers in, like, 20 seconds. | ||
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| I think you can't use that analogy anymore about, like, torches and pitchforks. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Ever since the tiki torches became, like, the wrong kind of thing, you know what I mean? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, you know, I'm looking at a lot about what's going on, say, in New York and California. | ||
| It's not just that our economy is being gutted, our manufacturing is being sent over to China. | ||
| We don't even make our own medicine anymore. | ||
| That was the craziest thing. | ||
| We had a pandemic hit, and we're like, we need medicine quick! | ||
| Call China, because we don't have any factories that can actually make it. | ||
| The coronavirus really made a lot of people become aware of the situation, like when medical supplies, even things like kettlebells, you couldn't get it because everything was made in China. | ||
| I mean, right now, it's still hard to get a lot of specific equipment, professional equipment, bicycles. | ||
| It's all made in China. | ||
| It's interesting on the medical side, like, we actually do do a lot of pharmaceuticals, but a lot of the raw ingredients. | ||
| So, the things that go into the drugs come from China, and there's nowhere else that you can get them. | ||
| And the craziest thing, too, is rare earth minerals, right? | ||
| Which we use for, I guess, smartphones, among other things. | ||
| We get it almost exclusively from China, right? | ||
| So Japan did recently find, like, a big... | ||
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Survive. | |
| There are rare earth minerals in the U.S. | ||
| It's actually not uncommon to find. | ||
| There are rare earth minerals in the U.S. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But we just go for it, China. | ||
| We're just going to give all of our money and keep printing it. | ||
| Now we've got 35% of all U.S. | ||
| dollars just being printed like crazy. | ||
| We can't wait to get some. | ||
| We've got New York, California, Michigan. | ||
| These states have violated the constitution beyond any record. | ||
| Like, I mean, listen, if you come out and you say, we need to have an argument about gun control. | ||
| I understand the second amendment, but you can still have a right to keep and bear arms with some restrictions. | ||
| There's an argument and people actually argue it. | ||
| Although many people are now becoming rather to a absolutist because of, you know, the riots and the craziness. | ||
| But in, in, in, uh, you look at New York, Andrew Cuomo was like, if you're protesting, you're okay. | ||
| You have your rights. | ||
| If you are pro Joe Biden, please come out, dance in the street and drink champagne together. | ||
| But if you want to go to a church, never gonna happen. | ||
| If you want to run your business because you're running out of money and you need to feed your family, no dice. | ||
| This is extreme degrees of authoritarian, despotic, I don't even know, is there a word more harsh than I can get? | ||
| Psychopathic malevolence? | ||
| Where he's basically sent, you know, he had NYPD going to Jewish schools with children, and the cops would point their phones inside the windows to film them to prosecute. | ||
| NYPD, police officers, went undercover to a restaurant, ordered food, and then as soon as the person delivered it, arrested them. | ||
| That's the level of depravity coming from the likes of Cuomo. | ||
| And no one in this country is doing anything, and the police officers support it. | ||
| So, you know, to make sure I'm not trying to get off on a tangent outside of the China stuff, when we hear that there's Chinese authoritarian communism and things like this, the American people seem to just roll over and take it for the most part in these blue cities. | ||
| But I'll tell you, I don't see the political willpower from Trump supporters or anyone who could do anything to stop it at this point. | ||
| They're going to completely destroy the economy, and they already have. | ||
| The federal debt-to-GDP ratio is now at 128.6%. | ||
| We're dropping and collapsing so quickly that when many people talk about Thucydides' Trap, and are you familiar with Thucydides' Trap? | ||
| I talked about it quite a bit several months ago. | ||
| That there's been fear for years that we will eventually get into a full-scale war, a hot war with China, because there are rising economic power. | ||
| Well, I guess there's one way to avoid it. | ||
| Have our own politicians destroy this country from the inside out, and then there won't need to be a war. | ||
| You know, I think we did this episode pretty early on the coronavirus called The Cure for Coronavirus is Not Authoritarianism, and it was based on the idea that the Chinese Communist Party was trying to use their model of controlling the coronavirus, which is locking people in their homes, Literally welding them into their homes. | ||
| Welding people in their homes, dragging people out of their homes to put them in quarantine, you know, arresting people, like beating people up for being on the streets when there was a lockdown, and kind of like providing that as a model for other countries as to like, this is the way to deal with the coronavirus. | ||
| And you did see Western media somewhere like, hey, you know, it might be a little authoritarian, but it's working. | ||
| Yeah, like, you know, they got rid of it. | ||
| So it kind of worked. | ||
| So I think, in a way, like, the things that you're talking about in New York, or the excessive things that they're doing in California and the different places, like, you know, it was almost like, it was like, it happened in China that they did this lockdown, then it happened in Italy that they did the lockdown. | ||
| It kind of gave permission, in a way, for all of these, you know, people, politicians in different areas to be like, this is the way to deal with it. | ||
| It was modeled off of it. | ||
| And because China lies about the actual coronavirus numbers, it seems effective. | ||
| But the numbers in China are completely fake. | ||
| It's obvious if you look at it. | ||
| Yeah, I really wanted to ask you this, but it's kind of strange that these kind of top Democrats, | ||
| even the New York City mayor today, Bill de Blasio, came out and just plainly said, | ||
| I'd like to say very bluntly, our mission is to redistribute wealth. | ||
| So it's very interesting seeing these Democrats kind of mimic the language and some of the behaviors of the communist Chinese. | ||
| But from your sources, from the people you talked to on the ground, what's really going on there? | ||
| Did they defeat the coronavirus? | ||
| Because we're seeing a lot of photos of them raving and partying and having these these huge the marathon street marathon yes how does like | ||
| how does how do you guys make sense of this story of this deadly pandemic | ||
| everywhere but China's having street parties and raves at the same time did their | ||
| lockdowns work like what's going on here well first of all I know you have some | ||
| specific things you want to say about that Shelly but like over the past couple | ||
| of months you keep seeing like certain cities in China declaring wartime | ||
| measures to fight the coronavirus because there's oh some rumor that maybe like | ||
| somebody got a case and then suddenly they need to test 70,000 people in a | ||
| city And they can do that in like three days because it's a horrible authoritarian regime. | ||
| But so you get the sense that it never did stop. | ||
| There is still something happening, the extent of which we can't know. | ||
| And I know you have some specific things you were talking about earlier. | ||
| Oh yeah, just the idea that, you know, well, I mean in terms of the numbers, there's no way to, like, you cannot, there's no way to even guess because it's not really going to be based in reality. | ||
| Like the GDP numbers. | ||
| The GDP numbers aren't real. | ||
| You know, there was, You know, China's been organ harvesting, forced organ harvesting from dissidents. | ||
| And, you know, it turns out that, like, some people did a study and found out that, like, the whole, since 2015, they've claimed that they only have organs coming from, you know, voluntary donations. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I got a couple kidneys I don't need. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they basically, these researchers found out that their voluntary donation numbers and their transplant numbers were all fake. | ||
| They all mimicked a quadratic equation. | ||
| Perfectly. | ||
| Almost perfectly. | ||
| So are they actually harvesting organs? | ||
| From political prisoners. | ||
| Yes, they are doing. | ||
| Uyghurs, Falun Gong. | ||
| They're definitely doing organ transplants. | ||
| Their official numbers are fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Surprise surprise, isn't their real estate all fake too? | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| You know, I watched, uh, I was watching a video someone posted on Facebook. | ||
| I can't remember what it was, but maybe you guys know, where a guy was explaining that the warfare strategy of China is exploiting the weaknesses of a nation that they accept. | ||
| So if you allow free speech, then we'll support protests against you. | ||
| If racism is a very sensitive issue, then we'll inflame it and we'll just keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. | ||
| And that what we're seeing right now is actually the fifth generational war, full scale, with China. | ||
| They know that if they actually, you know, crashed some U-boats on the shores of California and ran in full speed, they might have a very large ground army, but the people would fight back and the Americans would win. | ||
| Air superiority, for one thing, plus all the aircraft carriers we got. | ||
| So what they're doing is subversion, manipulating our systems, stock market, buying land, control. | ||
| They're coming in, they're undermining all of our institutions. | ||
| It's working, and it's collapsing underneath us. | ||
| And I wonder, when we hear things like that from Bill de Blasio, These people, like, I look at the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| I think they're very smart. | ||
| Very, very, very smart. | ||
| They understand why they had to have some kind of capitalistic system in their country to actually allow it to expand economically. | ||
| Because, you know, the things they were doing very early on kind of didn't work. | ||
| Like, didn't they kill all these birds at one point or something? | ||
| The sparrows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was like, didn't do anything, did it? | ||
| They had kids literally pulling grass out of the ground because grass was bourgeoisie. | ||
| So, like, clearly that stuff didn't work. | ||
| But now you have people like Bill de Blasio, who clearly is not a smart person, saying, we're gonna do this, you know, readership and wealth. | ||
| So it seems like they've bought and paid for as many elites as they can. | ||
| You've got the Thousand Talents Project program or whatever out of these universities where these people are essentially spies. | ||
| It's really amazing they're not getting charged with treason. | ||
| And then- The way they've... | ||
| I've never heard about what you're talking about and have no knowledge. | ||
| We could talk about it later if you want. | ||
| But is it a coincidence then that the universities are the epicenter for the most part of this | ||
| woke, broken theory? | ||
| Critical theory? | ||
| That makes no sense? | ||
| I've never heard about what you're talking about and have no knowledge. | ||
| None whatsoever? | ||
| Just no. | ||
| No. | ||
| So no! | ||
| No, no, never, never. | ||
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| We're playing it safe, right Shelly? | ||
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| Well, I think that in a way, like, the Chinese Communist Party is happy to see us destroy ourselves, but they don't really care if we follow communism as an ideology. | ||
| That's not really what they care about. | ||
| What they care about is having the U.S. | ||
| become weakened And so they can continue to, you know, oppress all these other countries and like, you know... Specifically their growing influence in Asia Pacific. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| So the reason I bring this up is we had a story in the New York Times. | ||
| It was updated a couple of days ago, but it was from about a week or so ago, where a university professor said, we should not give the vaccine to the elderly because they tend to be more white. | ||
| and we need to level the playing field with minorities, which is one of the craziest things I've ever seen written | ||
| in the New York Times, where they outright said, | ||
| this professor believes older white people should die to balance the number of people. | ||
| Harvard professor? | ||
| No, no, no, University of Pennsylvania. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Oh, my alma mater. | ||
| At the same time, from the College Fix, we have a story about Cornell, which is mandating only the white students get the vaccine. | ||
| So the critical race theory stuff is completely... | ||
| Nonsensical. | ||
| It just makes literally no sense to be like, well, it's racist to give the vaccine to the, you know, to the white people. | ||
| So we're going to give it to the minorities, but at the same time, only the white people should be forced to get it. | ||
| It's like that theory makes no, like, none of that makes sense, right? | ||
| This ideology clearly has no, no end point, no goal, no success. | ||
| It's just chaos. | ||
| And so when you see this coming out of universities, you see things like the Thousand Talents program, I don't want to get too conspiratorial, but I think when you're talking about China trying to subvert this country, and they have a program in which they buy out university professors, and then you have many university professors who are espousing nonsensical ideas that will only destroy this country, I kind of feel like there's some lines to be connected there. | ||
| Maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| Thousand Talents is mostly about science and tech stuff because what they really want to do with that is steal U.S. | ||
| technology and bring it to China. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Paying professors to bring their research. | ||
| Not to say that specifically they're using Thousand Talents to espouse this kind of weird, you know, far-left or critical race theory stuff. | ||
| Just that I think if they're willing to do that in universities, would they not be willing to push this other kind of ideology because it eats us alive from the inside? | ||
| I do think that the critical race theory is interesting in the sense that the Chinese Communist Party is, like what you said about the video, where they'll use our weaknesses against us, or they'll use our strengths against us and make them weaknesses. | ||
| So with the racism thing, that's one of the things that they've definitely been using. | ||
| Especially in Australia. | ||
| Well, in Australia, but also here too. | ||
| When people started blaming China for the coronavirus, that was definitely racist. | ||
| It's racist to talk about how it started in Wuhan. | ||
| Asians are white. | ||
| That's the new thing. | ||
| I was very happy to tell, Shelly. | ||
| Yeah, I was very disappointed to learn. | ||
| I was actually, I was really excited because it turns out that I'm double white. | ||
| So I get to be white twice. | ||
| So is that like, is that more power? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Super privilege! | ||
| Does that mean you are or aren't going to get the vaccine? | ||
| Well, for my allergies, I'm not. | ||
| Oh, I actually do have allergens. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, legit. | ||
| All right, back to our topic. | ||
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I think you guys were talking. | |
| Hey, quiet down. | ||
| We're talking about something interesting. | ||
| Allergies, tell me more. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think you guys were talking about the larger divide and conquer agenda. | ||
| And it is interesting to see a lot of special interests from China do give a lot of money | ||
| to the universities. | ||
| And it is kind of exemplified, as we saw with, again, I'm going to bring this back to Mayor | ||
| Bill de Blasio, because his administration during the early onset of the coronavirus was saying, | ||
| it's fine. | ||
| Don't be racist. | ||
| Come out to the Chinese Day parade. | ||
| Everything's going to be fine. | ||
| Don't be racist! | ||
| And then next week, he's literally threatening martial law, where even Andrew Cuomo had to stop Bill de Blasio and said, wait, hold on there, you're pushing it too far. | ||
| If you're going farther than Andrew Cuomo wants you to go ... you know you're a lunatic and you absolutely lost it and he ... has been a part of this larger divide-and-conquer supporting ... Black Lives Matter protests openly calling for ... demonstrations meanwhile telling you you can't have ... dinner with your family because it's going to spread ... the coronavirus and kill everyone. | ||
| And this Black Lives Matter thing also, we have to admit here, is being exploited by the Chinese, as there have been many Chinese diplomats that have come out and said, the United States is racist. | ||
| We support Black Lives Matter. | ||
| There was even a police officer in Hong Kong that was screaming at American journalists there, Black Lives Matter, as he was beating the crap out of the dissidents in Hong Kong. | ||
| Hong Kong! | ||
| So we have to understand there is an element of this exploitation of our racial divide by the Chinese, whether it's being weaponized or just exploited, I think is something, a topic of debate that I think we should talk about. | ||
| It's their favorite thing to bring up and it's the racism because it's like that's the number one thing that they can like anything they can hit us with. | ||
| They know it hits a nerve. | ||
| Yeah, and it's it hits a nerve in the US and also like it's everything they do is whataboutism in a certain sense where like if you try to bring up human rights atrocities in China that the first thing they'll do is bring up racism or whatever. | ||
| Steve Kerr did this. | ||
| Remember the NBA guy? | ||
| He was like, I don't go around asking about our police brutality problems, you know, and we got issues we gotta deal with. | ||
| It's like, bro, you don't talk about police brutality, we can. | ||
| You want to talk about concentration camps, we have to. | ||
| Didn't that happen with, what's it, Mark Cuban? | ||
| Somebody? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That was also terrible because he was like, China is a customer. | ||
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| But we should, I treat China as a customer. | ||
| But that's the problem. | ||
| But we should, you know, we should start in our own, like, clean up our own house. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a fundamental problem. | ||
| You need, they talk about China like it's our customer instead of, oh, the Chinese Communist Party has concentration camps and harvests the organs of people who have wrong political beliefs. | ||
| I think that's one thing. | ||
| Joe Biden came out with a statement during International Human Rights Day, which was the 10th, and what was disappointing was that he was like, yes, there are many human rights atrocities around the world, but then was like, we have to talk about systemic injustices here in America and whatever. | ||
| That's fair, but it's kind of like, it is very similar to Chinese propaganda in the sense that they're always talking about like, well, before you can talk about what's wrong in other countries, you have to clean. | ||
| If you're not perfect, you cannot talk about anything else. | ||
| Jordan Peterson says, clean your room, bucko. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You can't compare the two. | ||
| Are you saying Jordan Peterson's a communist? | ||
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| That's what I'm getting here. | ||
| I'm saying he's secretly subverting American... I'm kidding. | ||
| I mean, you can't compare the two. | ||
| It's not apples and oranges when you compare Black Lives Matter to the Uyghurs, especially when you look at the kind of xenophobia and the treatment of blacks in China. | ||
| And there was an amazing, incredible video that came out that was awe-stunning, showing what was happening with the Chinese government literally blaming black people for the coronavirus. | ||
| Inside of China, kicking them out of their own homes, kicking them out into the street, and then this is the country lecturing us about Black Lives Matter? | ||
| They made a commercial where there's a black man put into a washing machine. | ||
| And you guys, I'm sure you saw this. | ||
| And it created an outroar, an uproar in the U.S. | ||
| So for those that haven't seen the commercial, there's a Chinese woman and a black man. | ||
| She pushes the black man in the washing machine and he comes out Chinese. | ||
| And there was outrage in the U.S. | ||
| And China's response was, they're like, ah, you Americans, you baizua, you crazies, you're so sensitive, grow up. | ||
| They didn't care. | ||
| They also had Blackface. | ||
| Yeah, the CCTV. | ||
| You can go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, but every year they have this communist gala New Year's show. | ||
| And yeah, I think it was last year they had like somebody dressing up in blackface. | ||
| It was talking about China and Africa and how they're like helping all the African people and they had like an actress in blackface. | ||
| And as like So many of the experts from Africa we've talked to are saying, like, this is colonialism. | ||
| This is neocolonialism. | ||
| So I remember spending time in Africa doing reporting, and I was surprised how many Chinese nationals were at the airport, at the hotels. | ||
| And they're building a... | ||
| Chinese surveillance. Yes, most importantly I mean I was in Kenya and | ||
| Zimbabwe and Somalia. Even in Somalia I saw some Chinese nationals which is | ||
| pretty surprising to say the least. But talking to almost every African a lot of | ||
| them brought up to me the Chinese are here. | ||
| They're taking over. | ||
| They are the new colonizers. | ||
| This is crazy what's happening here. | ||
| And I was shocked to the level of how many Africans were talking to me about this, seriously. | ||
| Whether it was taxi drivers, whether it was waiters, whether it was random people that I walked into or was interviewing. | ||
| They're like, you should really take a look into China and how they're essentially taking over all of Africa. | ||
| and usurping all of our natural resources and buying off our politicians. | ||
| And it was surprising because I didn't know about it until I was in Africa and actually saw it on the ground there. | ||
| This actually goes to a point Tim was making earlier about how the Chinese Communist Party is a threat to democracy worldwide. | ||
| So there's the influence that the Communist Party is having in like the United States | ||
| and Australia, but on like using Africa as an example, what they'll do is they'll go | ||
| to dictators, horrible regimes, and say, hey, we'll give you money that the West isn't giving | ||
| you and we won't tie, you know, freedom of the press or any of those things to it. | ||
| We'll also give you Huawei technology to help you spy on and track down opposition leaders | ||
| so we will make you a more effective authoritarian leader. | ||
| And so this is how like every year like a Freedom House organization rates like the | ||
| progress of freedom and democracy in the world. | ||
| And, like, we've seen a backslide because of the influence of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| It's this, there's these two competing spheres of power. | ||
| And unfortunately, the authoritarian communist model of China is rapidly growing. | ||
| And if they ever take over Taiwan, that will be a disaster. | ||
| I think that'll happen under Joe Biden. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| Well, so then we should be talking about like Kirk Campbell and Jake Sullivan, like people who might be working for the Biden administration, some of the things they've said. | ||
| And it does seem... What are some examples? | ||
| And who are these people? | ||
| OK, so Jake Sullivan was the National Security Advisor to Vice President Biden. | ||
| Biden wants him as the National Security Advisor. | ||
| And he talked about how, like, he considers China's rise like one of his great successes. | ||
| He was working for that. | ||
| And he and Kirk Sullivan, Kirk Campbell, penned an editorial in Foreign Affairs where they | ||
| talk about, well, like keeping the status quo with Taiwan, for instance. | ||
| And China has promised to invade Taiwan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're doing beaching drills. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they normally, like every year, there's like this message about peaceful reunification. | ||
| They removed peaceful this year. | ||
| Violent reunification. | ||
| So, you know, what happens when the status quo is changed by the Chinese Communist Party invading Taiwan? | ||
| What are they going to say about that? | ||
| Kirk Campbell, yeah, Kirk Campbell was also behind one of the biggest foreign policy failures of the U.S. | ||
| since like the fall of Saigon with the Scarborough Shoal incident in 2012. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| So the Scarborough Shoal, we actually went there. | ||
| We'll see if we can tell that story later. | ||
| It's like this, this reef kind of near the Philippines. | ||
| It's very important to local Filipino fishermen. | ||
| It's in the South China Sea. | ||
| And originally it was kind of a place where Filipino fishermen and Vietnamese fishermen, Chinese fishermen, they could all go and fish in the place. | ||
| It was claimed by several different countries, including the Philippines and China. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then in 2012, China sends in its Coast Guard and basically occupies the shoal. | ||
| Kirk Campbell leads the U.S. | ||
| delegation to—because the Philippines are a treaty ally with the U.S. | ||
| We have a mutual defense pact with them, so this might trigger that, right? | ||
| Yeah, if they come to blows. | ||
| It looked like they were going to come to blows. | ||
| And so they work out this deal where, you know, the Chinese will leave and the Philippine side will leave and that'll be fine. | ||
| Well, the Philippine forces leave. | ||
| the Chinese forces stay. Yeah. And the US did nothing under Trump. No, this was under this | ||
| 2012 under Obama. Oh, that's right. Wow. And this sent shockwaves throughout the Asia Pacific, | ||
| because suddenly this was like all of these other countries realizing if the US | ||
| will turn its back on a mutual defense ally, what's going to happen to us? | ||
| So Thailand began moving closer to the Chinese Communist Party, Philippines, South Korea. | ||
| We also lost South Korea when we were putting in the THAAD missile defense system, and China freaked out about that and began a huge economic warfare against South Korea. | ||
| No support from the U.S. | ||
| I was, we were both, Luke and I were in South Korea and there were people protesting the THAAD defense system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it was controversial within South Korea. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| That is definitely true. | ||
| But so this was like devastating for the image of the U.S. | ||
| all throughout the- And that was Obama. | ||
| That was under Obama. | ||
| And specifically this agreement was negotiated by- For a guy who loved war. | ||
| You'd think he'd have done something. | ||
| I mean, supposedly, I mean, supposedly somebody said, we're not going to go to war over a bunch of rocks. | ||
| Was that Kirk Campbell? | ||
| I think it was him who said that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| But like the wider geopolitical effect it had. | ||
| It was disastrous for the U.S. | ||
| It was terrible, and it allowed China to basically have free reign within the South China Sea. | ||
| In general, I don't think they were prepared for that. | ||
| I think that totally rewrote their timeline of what they could do. | ||
| Because after that, that's when you see them really building up artificial islands and militarizing them. | ||
| These atolls, right? | ||
| These reefs and stuff. | ||
| And now they have missiles on them. | ||
| Yeah, and when the U.S. | ||
| says, hey, don't build those missiles, What do you think China's gonna do? | ||
| Do you remember recently when they did the Elephant March, I think it's called, in Guam? | ||
| Elephant March? | ||
| Yeah, so when the strike group from China went through that strait between Taiwan and what's it called? | ||
| Oh, the Taiwan Strait. | ||
| Taiwan Strait, I guess. | ||
| Trump had deployed bombers and heavy military forces to an airbase in Guam, and then they did I guess what's called like an elephant walk or something. | ||
| Where you see all of these war, you know, planes going, you know, around showing them, look what we got ready to go. | ||
| And then we retreated because the U.S. | ||
| military found out that China has weapons capable of wiping out the entire airbase before those planes can get off the ground. | ||
| So we were forced to pull back and retreat. | ||
| Well, that also reminds me of that the Chinese Navy has more ships than the U.S. | ||
| now, which are not necessarily the same equivalent in terms of Technical capability? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the U.S. | ||
| military has been so focused on the sandbox. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And not on China. | ||
| Well, I'll tell you, not that it's a one-for-one comparison or a comparison at all, but I think most people who play strategy games know the power of a wave of small troops versus one powerful unit. | ||
| So we often hear from the U.S. | ||
| gun control advocates when they say, you think you're going to go to war against the American government? | ||
| They have cruise missiles! | ||
| And the typical response is, if you think, if that's what you think, you need to look up the history of Vietnam and Afghanistan. | ||
| A handful of people with weapons is going to outdo, you know, it's going to easily... I'll put it this way. | ||
| Fighter jets can't occupy street corners. | ||
| So there is something to be said for China having more ships, even if they're not nearly as capable. | ||
| Because, uh, you know, and, and correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| I mean, I don't think you guys are experts on, you know, World War II in Russia, but I was reading about how Russia mass produced really low quality tanks that were getting blown up like crazy by the Nazis, but they just had so many! | ||
| Wave after wave of our own men! | ||
| That was kind of the AK strategy, right? | ||
| The what strategy? | ||
| The, the AK-47. | ||
| Just like a cheap, easy, like simple gun versus like the, um, what was the M6? | ||
| They like had all kinds of issues. | ||
| The AK-47, you could bury in the mud and still use it. | ||
| Make something that is cheap, but easy to produce and fast. | ||
| And then sure, the Nazis were able to blow up these Russian tanks, but they just kept sending wave after wave because they could just keep making them. | ||
| The Zack Brannigan strategy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Wave after wave of our own men until they run out of bullets. | ||
| We have to understand when we look at China's strategy now, it's pretty brilliant. | ||
| I mean, historically, China hasn't been that strong because of its geopolitical location. | ||
| But if they're able to offset the fight on islands, especially along very important trade routes, they're implementing a similar policy like the Japanese did during World War II. | ||
| They don't want the fight in Tokyo. | ||
| They want the fight in the Pacific. | ||
| So this is the first beginning of this Chinese expansion, which they need, because essentially they're landlocked, and they're landlocked in not a strong position. | ||
| When you look at their natural resources, they're not doing that well. | ||
| As you said, they just imported a whole bunch of grain, because it's very hard for the Chinese government and the Chinese... | ||
| country to produce for itself this is why they're also trying to expand their territory in the himalayas against the troops in india so we're seeing if china really wants to dominate the world they're going to have to have a bunch of islands along these trade routes and if you look at world wars they always start along trade routes so this is very key and and one of the reasons why they're building so many of these uh strategic locations that they're expanding it so we have to Yes. | ||
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| $5 trillion of shipping goes through the South China Sea. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so they need that seaport control. | ||
| That's why it's so important to them. | ||
| And the reason why they're putting the Uyghur Muslims in these camps is because they need | ||
| total social control. | ||
| People who adhere to a religion have a higher power. | ||
| They need to be the power. | ||
| Weren't they replacing religious images with Chairman Mao recently? | ||
| Oh yeah, definitely. | ||
| That's been going on for a while. | ||
| Well, also Mao. | ||
| Xi and Mao. | ||
| It's the same strategy they've actually been using all throughout the 70 years of the Chinese Communist Party's history. | ||
| Everything that's happening in Xinjiang now, to a lesser extent, they did to the Falun Gong practitioners before that. | ||
| And we were just talking to somebody from Southern Mongolia. | ||
| Which is Inner Mongolia. | ||
| Which is Inner Mongolia. | ||
| They did the same wave of genocide in Mongolia that people don't really hear about. | ||
| They did it in Tibet. | ||
| These are all the same things, just the same strategies, just being refined and refined. | ||
| And we just don't stop. | ||
| I'll tell you something crazy. | ||
| There was a period where, I'll just say someone that I know very well, was a YouTuber, and | ||
| they got an email one day from someone who asked them to upload a video to their YouTube | ||
| channel. | ||
| Not to run an ad, not to do a promo, just straight, hey, would you be willing to upload | ||
| a video to your channel in exchange for $200? | ||
| The video was some guy in New York talking about Falun Gong and how backwards it was, | ||
| But it was a really interesting bit of propaganda where the person wasn't saying Falun Gong is bad. | ||
| They were like, it's so strange that we allow this weird cult-like religion in our country. | ||
| Why would we do this? | ||
| You know, we have these people and they're dangerous and it's like a really... I said don't upload that. | ||
| Don't take the money. | ||
| But people did. | ||
| So so they found channels that were small to midsize, maybe 10, 20,000 subscribers or more, would just be like, wow, a couple hundred bucks, I need the money. | ||
| And they would upload this propaganda piece from China. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's it's amazing, like all the little pieces of propaganda that are able to filter into the Yeah. | ||
| Can you guys explain some of the larger propaganda efforts that are utilized in China? | ||
| I know there's a crackdown on religions, but I also have seen videos of people rebelling and fighting against the Chinese government as well. | ||
| Is there anything legitimately going on or is the propaganda so strong with the social credit score that there isn't any resistance at all? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Here's an interesting story that kind of ties into that. | ||
| It might seem tangential. | ||
| There was a story this past year of a Chinese student who was studying in the U.S. | ||
| He made a post to Twitter in the U.S. | ||
| comparing Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping to the villain from Biker Mice from Mars. | ||
| And then he goes back to China and is arrested for that. | ||
| So the first and biggest victims of the Chinese Communist Party's actions are always the Chinese people themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now I think you should tell the story about Chen Guangcheng, what he told me. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Chen Guangcheng is a blind Chinese human rights activist. | ||
| He's the daredevil. | ||
| He was a barefoot lawyer in China and he was arrested for basically trying to help women who had had forced abortions. | ||
| Because of the one-child policy, and he was just trying to help them get some kind of like legal redress. | ||
| China is anti-choice and anti-life. | ||
| Yeah, just both. | ||
| And then he was put in prison for years for, you know, traffic violations. | ||
| And then he was put under house arrest for many years too, but he managed to escape house arrest Wow. | ||
| and Make his way to Beijing. We had activists helping him and | ||
| he made made it to the US Embassy Wow Back in 2012 and the US ended up granting him asylum. Oh, | ||
| wow so we interviewed him last year and he was talking about | ||
| how you know It looks from the surface to a lot of people like the | ||
| Chinese people as a whole support the Chinese Communist Party | ||
| Especially because a lot of the Chinese nationals that you'll meet in places like the US. They're | ||
| rich. | ||
| And they're rich because their families have some connection to the party, or their families are party members, like they have some kind of wealth that's tied back to the Communist Party. | ||
| And all the young people have been kind of brainwashed to be very nationalistic, so they'll be very supportive of the Chinese Communist Party, but that's not the real case on the ground. | ||
| But you can't know that, because even on the internet, Chinese people are very careful about what they say, because they know that you're going to get sent to prison for saying the wrong thing on WeChat or whatever, so they won't say it online. | ||
| There are videos I've seen where somebody might be filming in China, and then they ask a question, the person will go under their breath and be like, I don't know, I can't talk about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he was saying that there are so many people who are against the Chinese Communist Party, but it is hard, unless you have the connections inside China, to know that they're there. | ||
| I want to point something out real quick, too, because there's a stereotype about Chinese people being really bad drivers, right? | ||
| You've probably heard it. | ||
| Family Guy is a joke where, you know, just the other day we were watching Family Guy, and there's a Chinese woman, and she's like, how long do I need to signal to change eight lanes? | ||
| And then she just crashes the car or whatever. | ||
| But I was talking to this guy I know who spent a lot of his life in China and he said, what people don't realize, the Chinese who can make it to the United States tend to be wealthier than those who stay in China. | ||
| It's only possible. | ||
| And many of these people have their own drivers their whole lives in China. | ||
| They come here and They're not drivers. | ||
| They're the wealthier people. | ||
| So now they have to drive themselves. | ||
| And so it's a class issue of where you end up seeing these stereotypically bad drivers. | ||
| Not to say that it's legitimately true that, you know, every person is bad at driving, but he pointed out, you don't realize these are the wealthy people who are coming here. | ||
| And that's why that stereotype, you know, ends up coming about. | ||
| I mean, in China, people are notoriously bad drivers, but that's also because they've only been driving since, like, the early 2000s, really. | ||
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| It wasn't long ago with bicycles. | ||
| Yeah, so most people had not been driving that long, so there's a lot of, like, you know, the kind of traffic adequate that, like, the kind of stuff that's not necessarily a law, but, like, people learn, like, You know you're gonna let people into the lane if they need to like merge or whatever that stuff doesn't exist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like that kind of culture because they haven't been driving that long. | ||
| It's pretty easy to just find like horrific videos of like Like someone crossing the street and then just like at a hundred miles an hour, boom, run over by you. | ||
| There's a lot of videos. | ||
| There's a huge emerging middle class in China, which is looking like it's going to be a problem for the larger government. | ||
| It's very interesting to see how they're going to address that problem. | ||
| But very interestingly, when you talked about the one child policy, I automatically thought about many American elites. | ||
| A lot of specialized high-level individuals like Ted Turner that are fans of the one-child policy and have complimented it before on the American stage as well. | ||
| So it is interesting to see the kind of ties to a lot of these individuals. | ||
| I actually talked to Ted Turner and I asked him. | ||
| If you believe in the one-child policy as much as you do and as much as you advocate for it, why do you have four children? | ||
| He didn't like that question. | ||
| Well, it rules for thee, but not for me. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah, that's how it is. | ||
| I mean, some animals are more equal than others. | ||
| Even the one-child policy, the one-child policy was a failure. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And the Chinese government kind of knows it, but they can't say it. | ||
| Because they can't admit they made a mistake. | ||
| Yeah, so that's why there's now a two-child policy instead of a one-child policy, because they realized they screwed themselves with the population control. | ||
| And just to big picture for a moment, the Chinese Communist Party has concentration camps, harvests, organs, and for many years it was illegal to have a brother or a sister. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| In the rural area. | ||
| The thing with Chinese law or policy is that they have a decree from up top and then it's up to the local officials to implement it, and they do it very unevenly depending on where you are. | ||
| So if you're in like a wealthier area maybe you just have to pay a fine and you can afford it to have another kid. | ||
| In the rural areas like that's like the more disadvantaged you are like the more likely that it's gonna be like you get hauled into a van or a forced abortion or something like that because they have to make an example out of you and also the terrible thing was that a lot of these family planning policies like the one-child policy they were a way for local governments to make money So, if they couldn't find you, then they would make an example out of you. | ||
| And even, like, you know, in the 90s, a lot of people were starting to adopt Chinese girls, like, in the U.S. | ||
| and other places, so they were like, oh, well, girls aren't wanted, so, you know, we're gonna adopt them. | ||
| And now there's 30 million more men. | ||
| Right, so that's what I wanted to ask, right? | ||
| Did they create this imbalance where there's not enough women for the men, though? | ||
| They did, but also there was like something that weird that happened where there became a black market for Chinese baby girls to sell to be adopted in the US. | ||
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| Because like they would like, let's say you had a second child. | ||
| and it was a girl and you didn't want to give the kid up they could take the kid from you and put it in an orphanage and the local government could be like this baby was abandoned and then so you had cases of like families where like their kid was literally taken from them and then you know the adoptive parents like usually pay hundreds or maybe a couple thousand dollars to the local | ||
| government for the adoption so the local government is making money off of like | ||
| stealing kids and selling them to be adopted to the US. So cool. And sex trafficking is such a huge | ||
| issue like that I know the Trump administration sanctioned or not sanctioned but like called out China for | ||
| human trafficking but yeah that's that's a big way they're dealing with this | ||
| gender imbalance. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Sex trapping came from Myanmar, from North Korea, you know, from like, yeah. | ||
| Our show, it's got lots of funny humor. | ||
| It's fun to watch. | ||
| Do you think a hot war is inevitable or possible in our lifetimes? | ||
| It depends on a lot of factors. | ||
| I think it would be more of a slow, the worst case scenario I think would be a slow choking death for the U.S. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| doesn't do anything. | ||
| But it's not over yet at this point. | ||
| I don't know if I agree. | ||
| If they ever invade Taiwan, that will be the moment. | ||
| If the U.S. | ||
| lets that happen, that's probably horrible. | ||
| I think Joe Biden will. | ||
| I think you've already outlined the people he's surrounding himself with. | ||
| And I didn't even know about that. | ||
| Was it the Scarborough Shoal? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's horrifying. | ||
| Biggest foreign policy failure since, like, the fall of Saigon. | ||
| And, like, hardly anyone knows about it. | ||
| And they and they scream, you know, Trump is the worst and Obama had no scandals. | ||
| And that's shocking because look, he wore a tan suit. | ||
| That's that's true. | ||
| See, see, I think, you know, one of the things that Luke and I talk about a lot, especially I think most people when it comes to the Obama administration and foreign policy is clearly the Middle East, Libya, Syria, for really good examples, the drone strikes in Yemen, things like that. | ||
| I didn't even know about that, that he essentially abandoned our allies in the in the South, in the South, in Southeast Asia. | ||
| I think they started to realize towards the end of Obama's second term that they had kind of screwed up in Asia. | ||
| There was the pivot to Asia. | ||
| But it was kind of, it ended up being more of a PR kind of thing than actually policy. | ||
| Look, I think, you know, we had the TPP. | ||
| It didn't include China, but, you know, these free trade agreements that the Obama administration was very much in favor of, the things Joe Biden has advocated for. | ||
| When I hear Tony Bobulinski, you know, he's the guy who basically blew the whistle on the Biden family, say they're compromised. | ||
| When I hear... Look, there's a lot of things we can call Hunter Biden for. | ||
| These equity deals, the $5 million forgivable interest-free loan. | ||
| But Joe Biden... That was a nice deal. | ||
| That was a great deal. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| They say, you know, Joe Biden wasn't involved in any capacity, but I gotta bring it up again, you know, he actually flew with government property, Air Force Two, his son, to China for these private equity deals. | ||
| It didn't go through, you know, but that's part of the connections. | ||
| It did go through. | ||
| The thing about that private equity deal is, like, the Hunter Biden lawyer came up with a denial, but if you read the denial, it's actually very cleverly worded, because a lot of people don't know how private equity deals work. | ||
| I didn't when I was reading about this Hunter Biden scandal at first, when it first came out a couple years ago. | ||
| So I thought, oh, well, what the lawyer said is correct. | ||
| Like he only put half a million dollars in or whatever. | ||
| And, but like the truth is that that money, like the private equity deal actually did go through | ||
| and it's involved in a really weird way with Chinese state-owned corporations | ||
| where it seems like why would these state-owned corporations | ||
| need this private equity firm made out of just Americans? | ||
| Because the banks are lending money to the state-owned corporations. | ||
| There's no reason for a Western private equity firm to come into this. | ||
| So we heard that viral video, and he said, you know, now that Biden is in, you know, Trump talked a lot about his son Hunter and how he built up this wealth. | ||
| And then he says, who do you think got him that? | ||
| And the audience laughs. | ||
| And he says, got it. | ||
| When you see things like that. | ||
| Okay, with the Air Force Two scenario, the private equity deal, I tell you, man, I believe Tony Bobulinski that Joe Biden's compromised. | ||
| And this creates a very, very nightmarish scenario for Americans when we're watching specific states, you know, I'll single out the Democrats on this one, that are essentially using the Constitution as toilet paper. | ||
| And then you have the real threat that China is, it looks like they're preparing a ground invasion of Taiwan. | ||
| Is that fair to say? | ||
| Is that too bold? | ||
| They're definitely preparing a ground invasion of Taiwan. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to know how close they are to actually being able to pull that off. | ||
| It's difficult. | ||
| But it can only happen at like two different times of year. | ||
| It's very narrow. | ||
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| Joe Biden's not going to defend them. | ||
| Well, so I think the at an absolute minimum with the Hunter Biden stuff at an absolute minimum, he had like he had a point secret service watching over him. | ||
| It's impossible that Joe Biden did not know something was happening. | ||
| It's too much of a stretch of the imagination. | ||
| Look, if you guys are even somewhat jokingly, but it seems very serious to say that Chinese authoritarian communists or Chinese communist authoritarians are invading this country, they're subverting it, And you've got these people coming in the Biden | ||
| administration who you say are proud of what's going on. | ||
| You know, Luke mentioning Henry Kissinger advising Obama's national security adviser. Is that who it was? | ||
| Then at what point do the American people have to rise up in the streets and do something about it? | ||
| When you buy those pitchforks. | ||
| So you're saying if I buy them right now, if you buy them, they won't come? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If you buy it, they will come. | ||
| What time of year would the Chinese invade Taiwan? | ||
| It's like March, October, April. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Otherwise the weather, it's just impossible. | ||
| Yeah, as soon as Joe Biden won, the first thing I said, this is not a loss for just Donald Trump. | ||
| This is a loss for Taiwan, which essentially is being isolated, not just by China, but also larger institutions like the World Health Organization that don't even recognize it as an official country. | ||
| But another thing to really consider here is that also, you know, it's not too late. | ||
| It's not over because China also has their own problems. | ||
| When we look at their financial systems, it's just as fake and artificial as the United States. | ||
| When you look at their huge population of men, when you look at their natural resources, when you look at the problems that they have within their own empire, you see something that is not as strong as the United States right now, which is something important to highlight. | ||
| There is one thing I have to say about that. | ||
| We did this in terms of like, we gave China the money. | ||
| We gave the Chinese Communist Party the money to be able to build themselves up. | ||
| We built their surveillance system. | ||
| Yeah, we built the Great Wall. | ||
| Cisco built the Great Firewall for the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| MIT researchers have given them DNA sequencers to like... | ||
| Places involved in organ harvesting. | ||
| Yeah, and the DNA sequencers are being used in Xinjiang to monitor the Uyghurs. | ||
| But I think the mistake we're making now is giving them more money. | ||
| The Di Dongshen thing that you talked about, most people have seen the 7-minute version or some of the clips where he talks about Biden and things like that, but the full 18-minute speech that he gives, most of it is actually about US-China decoupling. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And how, you know, he was like, the US-China should decouple. | ||
| But why are we inviting, you know, Wall Street to come in and buy our bonds? | ||
| Why are we inviting them to come, you know, establish their companies in China? | ||
| It's very smart. | ||
| And I'll tell you why we should do this. | ||
| It's because whenever we, you know, we go invest in Wall Street in America, like we use the US dollar, we're playing their game. | ||
| Because we have to use the U.S. | ||
| dollar, that's how they can sanction us. | ||
| That's how they can have a trade war with us. | ||
| What we should do is invite them in. | ||
| And then they're playing on our turf. | ||
| If they're investing in Chinese bonds and Chinese stock markets, Chinese companies, then we get to call the shots. | ||
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| That was his speech. | ||
| And I think one of the things is we don't listen when they tell us what they're going to do. | ||
| They've been very transparent. | ||
| But this is true of many communists, even here in the U.S. | ||
| They often will scream exactly what their plans are, and the American people kind of just roll over and ignore it. | ||
| Is this why BlackRock is getting involved in China now? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they're being promised that like, you know, China, because BlackRock is thinking China has 1.3 billion people. | ||
| We get our mutual funds in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Our pensions, our bank accounts, our money, American money is in BlackRock. | ||
| It's one of the biggest asset management firms in the world. | ||
| We're talking about trillions of dollars. | ||
| And now they also are getting bailouts by the Federal Reserve, | ||
| but they're now working with the Chinese. | ||
| Americans are invested in ways they don't even know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock, last year made a speech at like a big gala dinner for this US-China association. | ||
| And he was talking in front of Henry Kissinger, in front of the Chinese ambassador, about how great China was and, you know, it's so great that they've lifted so many people out of poverty. | ||
| You know praising them using like China prop Chinese propaganda stuff and then saying but like you know what there's still a lot of people who need help in China and you know BlackRock can you know we can go in and we can you know provide that type of support for You know the Chinese people and help them make more money using our services. | ||
| You know who else is really invest in BlackRock? | ||
| Comcast, which owns NBC, MSNBC, which also has not really been reporting much on the whole Eric Swalwell fang fang. | ||
| New York Times didn't even cover it. | ||
| Fang fang, is that how you say it? | ||
| I say fang fang. | ||
| Fang fang? | ||
| Technically, with my very good Chinese pronunciation, it would be fang fang. | ||
| Does this play into the global reset for you? | ||
| The great reset. | ||
| Great reset. | ||
| We actually have somebody on our team working for our other show, America Uncovered, working on an episode about Great reset, kind of looking at what they're saying. | ||
| It's actually weird how, well, I'm repeating what he has told me, but that in like the actual speech, it's very vague what they're talking about. | ||
| It's just like kind of ideas, but nothing specific, which is very... Resetting global capitalism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But what does, what does that mean? | ||
| Redefining capitalism for fairness and of course equality. | ||
| What it means is giving money and power to massive multinational corporations. | ||
| That's what it means. | ||
| And then they can bring that money to China. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| There's money to be made. | ||
| I got a question. | ||
| Is the gutter oil stuff true? | ||
| You know about gutter oil? | ||
| Oh, uh, yeah, that was definitely something that was happening inside of China. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Do you want to, do you want to explain to people what the gutter oil thing was? | ||
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| It was people were... I think Vice did a documentary about it. | ||
| That's where I learned about it. | ||
| So they were basically taking used oil and kind of... From the sewer, right? | ||
| From the sewer. | ||
| And then straining it and reusing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As like cooking oil. | ||
| There were videos that I couldn't quite stomach. | ||
| Often we make the other member of our team, Matt, watch the things we don't want to watch. | ||
| We made him watch the Hunter Biden sex videos. | ||
| I think we scarred him for life. | ||
| I saw those. | ||
| I remember watching a video about this, gutter oil, and what was happening, people found essentially free. | ||
| So they would take, you know, scooping devices of some sort and go into the sewer lines and scoop out refuse and then strain the oil out of it, boil it, and then use it to cook food and sell street food and people get sick from it, guaranteed. | ||
| Cause it's, uh, my understanding is that it wasn't even necessarily food oil. | ||
| It was just oil. | ||
| So they might be using oil from, you know, spilled out of a car or something and it mixes in, they boil it down and they cook with it. | ||
| People eat it. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party just like blew up any kind of rule of law within the country. | ||
| And so it just became really horribly corrupt. | ||
| I think the gutter oil thing, too, is one reason why Chinese people don't actually trust a lot of the food in China. | ||
| It's been regulated now, so I think it's not as big of a problem as it was a few years ago. | ||
| But I don't know if you know about the milk powder scandal that happened back in 2008. | ||
| These babies were having weird, deformed heads and stuff like that. | ||
| And it turned out that these farmers were putting melamine, like the plastic, melamine shavings, to make the protein levels look higher somehow like whatever test they were using for protein like melamine could fake the protein level so they were buying kind of like extra melamine shavings from factories and putting them in the milk and it was making babies really sick and killed a few of them kidney stones like problems and they first of all covered up this whole thing because it was happening right before the olympics so like they covered up this for as long as they could and then it kind of broke right after the olympics happened | ||
| And then Chinese people were like outraged. | ||
| They executed the head of China's food and drug administration. | ||
| Because someone had to take the fall. | ||
| It also created a lot of tension between mainland China and Hong Kong | ||
| because as Chinese people knew about this, they started going to Hong Kong en masse to get baby powder, | ||
| baby formula from there. | ||
| Same with Australia and New Zealand. | ||
| They started like Chinese people would go buy like Formula and stuff from Australian New Zealand in bulk so that you could not actually get it if you wanted it for your baby I remember being in Hong Kong and being like why are all these people walking around with suitcases? | ||
| And why is there no baby formula anywhere? | ||
| And why are they buying it up all the time and then that story broke and there was a huge controversy but I You see a lot of these kind of stories with fake meat, with fake fruit, fake vegetables. | ||
| What are some of the most shocking ones that haven't made the headlines in the United States that you guys picked up on that really raised your eyebrows to say, holy cow, this is crazy? | ||
| Well, the thing that comes to mind, it's not quite that, but I'm just thinking of covering up everything that's happening with the coronavirus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Essentially happened with SARS. | ||
| It was the same thing. | ||
| Outbreak of the disease. | ||
| They tried to cover it up. | ||
| It spread around. | ||
| And actually, this is the main reason why Taiwan has done so well with the coronavirus is because they suffered really badly from SARS. | ||
| So they basically established a team that was permanently set to monitor the outbreaks of infectious disease within mainland China. | ||
| And so back in December, they were already raising warning flags about, hey, something's kind of spreading around. | ||
| Maybe we should be on guard. | ||
| Whereas the rest of the world, being very financially invested in China, did not have Was not paying any attention to that. | ||
| That's not quite as exciting as milk. | ||
| I got a photo. | ||
| I googled the photo of gutter oil. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| It's a woman and she's got a long stick with a big ladle. | ||
| And she's got a bucket. | ||
| She's pulling sewage. | ||
| She's lifted a sewer cap up. | ||
| And she is pulling sewage out. | ||
| And they were filtering it, boiling it, and serving it to people. | ||
| You know, I think back to the days of snake oil in the wild, wild west. | ||
| And you see, this is why I'm kind of a liberal and I'm, I'm okay with the regulation. | ||
| Cause I, you know, I know the story about the Cuyahoga river, the, you know, the fire burst in the river and we got to, you know, clean up our water, clean up our environment. | ||
| This is the kind of stuff that nightmares are made of when it's just unrepentant. | ||
| It's just corrupt. | ||
| It's just power by any means necessary. | ||
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| Actually, that makes me think of, what was it, Upton Sinclair, the, the, was it The Jungle? | ||
| The Jungle, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably that picture does more than like anything we've talked about. | ||
| Like, just look at them. | ||
| Look at gutter oil from a human. | ||
| No, it hits you in your stomach. | ||
| Yeah, I, I, yeah, I remember it was, it's, it's, there's a video from Radio Free Asia, I think, going back to 2013 or so, where they show the process of making this. | ||
| And that, that's crazy to me. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think they've they realized that that was like a really bad PR thing for them. | ||
| But there's probably a bunch of things like that still going on to this day. | ||
| We just haven't learned about. | ||
| Well, there's the wet markets that the Chinese government said that they were getting rid of because it could have been potentially where the coronavirus came from. | ||
| And now the wet markets are back right now, which is another important aspect that people need to understand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So well, so this is this is important. | ||
| Can you guys break down what the wet markets are? | ||
| I mean largely it's like just a normal kind of outdoor market. | ||
| They play a critical role in a lot of people's lives in China. | ||
| Because there's not like in terms of like the food supply chain a lot of people actually buy food from the wet markets. | ||
| Is it just it's like what like they have meats and foods out on like ice or whatever? | ||
| Yeah so like a lot of it is most most of it is just vegetables or like meat or whatever some of it is like living animals so you like in china a lot of poultry markets they're like live chickens or whatever and then you get a chicken they'll kill it for you um but then some of these wet markets have like weird exotic animal stuff like bats yeah or | ||
| pangolins or yeah like different I think because people were at first saying that | ||
| like the wet market of Wuhan didn't sell bats but maybe it went through to a | ||
| pangolin basically but like there and there was like a famously like a picture | ||
| going around of like a board from this wet market talking about like how you | ||
| could get like crocodile or like all these different like exotic animals but | ||
| like that's not like that's kind of like not most of what wet markets are | ||
| So wet markets are kind of necessary for their like For Chinese people to get food. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like the kind of like exotic animals, like living exotic animals and stuff like that, that's where you, the poultry too, that's been a problem with like avian flu in the past. | ||
| So that's where you kind of get into the trouble where like weird diseases could come up. | ||
| Hey, wouldn't it have been nice if there was an independent investigation into the origin of the coronavirus? | ||
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| I was going to ask you guys, what do you think happened? | ||
| Because the official story, according to the communist government, is that this was the wet market. | ||
| There's some people speculating that this was because of the gain of function research that was happening at the Wuhan laboratory. | ||
| There's other people making up other theories. | ||
| What do you guys think happened specifically with China? | ||
| Well, specifically, leaked internal documents from the World Health Organization showed that they made a deal not to investigate the origin. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The wet market was, like, they don't say it's the wet market anymore. | ||
| Like, actually, what they're trying to do is blame every other country they can. | ||
| Yeah, they're saying Australia, right? | ||
| It came from Australia. | ||
| It came from Italy. | ||
| Maybe it came from frozen food that was imported into China. | ||
| They're just trying to, they don't even say it's the wet market anymore. | ||
| I mean I think at first I thought well it's pretty likely it did come from a wet market because that's what's happened multiple times with bird flu and SARS was a similar situation. | ||
| but um you know it seems that there have been earlier um outbreaks than what was associated with the wet market outbreak so it's not really clear anymore they're covering up and this is the reason why they're going so hard against australia now well one of the reasons they're going against australia but they were asked they were demanding an international independent investigation makes sense and they hit australia hard I was reading about the Spanish flu, the 1918 flu pandemic. | ||
| Please don't call it the Spanish flu. | ||
| It's, you know, diseases happen everywhere. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Well, interestingly, there's several theories about where it actually came from. | ||
| And so the two leading theories that it actually wasn't Spain, it was, it came, there was World War I, basically, and you had A lot of people were in the trenches. | ||
| They were dirty. | ||
| They were sick. | ||
| They were injured. | ||
| So when they came back to the U.S., they were bringing it with them. | ||
| And it actually started to mutate and expand and get really, really worse, a whole lot worse in the U.S. | ||
| But some have said it came from China. | ||
| And the evidence for that, they say, is that China did not experience, they did not get hit hard by the flu pandemic. | ||
| And the reason I think is that it originated in China. | ||
| as a weaker strain. | ||
| The Chinese people gained a herd immunity to it. | ||
| It made its way to, you know, through Europe to the U.S., and by the time the mutated strain had come back to Europe, they already had herd immunity to that similar strain, so they were less impacted by it. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| It's interesting to even, you know, go back a hundred years. | ||
| Now, there are academics who are saying, you know, and especially Chinese academics saying, that's not true, you're lying, you know, it was you, you're dirty, and things like that. | ||
| I had a moment where I was like, 100 years ago wasn't 1918. | ||
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And it was so old. | |
| But just to bring something up. | ||
| Were you 80? | ||
| Yeah, just China back then was also an entirely different place for people. | ||
| That was before the Communist Revolution, right? | ||
| Yeah, and I think an issue people sometimes have is like they conflate all of China's 5,000 years of history to what the Communist Party is doing now, which is grossly inaccurate. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party is, you know, communism is a Western ideology that came to China And basically it's the Dark Ages. | ||
| Didn't something happen where they melted down all of their like plow shares? | ||
| The Great Leap Forward. | ||
| That's where they did that. | ||
| What was that all about? | ||
| Why did they do that? | ||
| Well so Mao wanted to increase steel production and so there was this insane thing where just everyone like everywhere like in hospitals and schools they were all melting down metal to make steel and it was Not, like, steel you could use. | ||
| It was bad, yeah. | ||
| It was called, what was it, pig steel? | ||
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Pig iron? | |
| Pig iron, that's it. | ||
| Pig iron. | ||
| Yeah, and, like, it was completely useless. | ||
| You can't make a walk into, like, steel beams that you can use for anything. | ||
| Yeah, and because it was, like, this, you know, top-down, state-mandated thing, farmers, like, had to keep up production, and so they, like, there were issues of them just, like, using their farm tools, and then famine. | ||
| And they all starved to death. | ||
| There was many reasons the famine happened, from the sparrow campaign where they killed all the sparrows because the sparrows ate the seeds and so you gotta kill all the sparrows, but the sparrows also ate the locusts. | ||
| The culture revolution was when they started purging all of the traditional... Yeah, that came after. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, so can you explain the culture revolution? | ||
| Mao basically felt that he was losing control of the party politically. | ||
| So he announced that the party had kind of lost its way, that the party was becoming too bourgeois, so they needed a cultural revolution within the Communist Party to kind of purge the party of counter-revolutionary elements. | ||
| And he gave power to the Red Guards, which hadn't existed before. | ||
| They're kind of these groups of, like, young people who were, you know, basically worship Mao. | ||
| So he basically used the Red Guards to, um, so he could take power from the people that he felt in the political system who were trying to, like, take... He was also very paranoid. | ||
| So he felt that they were trying to take power from him so he used the Red Guards to basically cause chaos in society and like there are different factions of Red Guards and they would fight each other in the streets. | ||
| You know like the whole Chinese society ground to a halt essentially. | ||
| It's kind of hard to like talk like for anyone who didn't live through the Cultural Revolution to kind of like get the real flavor of it. | ||
| I've heard described from Chinese people who lived through it that it's like we went crazy for 10 years. | ||
| Yeah I mean it was really much worse in the beginning and then towards the end it kind of started to peter out a little bit more. | ||
| My parents were both alive during the cultural revolution and they would talk about it but like they wouldn't really talk about like all the bad things that happened for a long time and then they started when I was like a teenager actually talking about like my mom said she watched The students in her, she was in elementary school. | ||
| She watched other students tie her teacher up and beat her. | ||
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What? | |
| Because like, you know, any authority figures were considered like, you know, possible counter revolutionaries or there were different phases of it where like, you could be a rightist or you could be a counter revolutionary. | ||
| You could be like, like you could be like, there could be a lot of things that like, you know, you know, you could be a, like if you were a fascist, you if you were you were like oh you you might be related to a landlord like if your family used to own land before the communist revolution then you were you know like you you were like a black force like they were all tied to the kmt at one point how many people died during this period and do you see any parallels with what's happening culturally in the united states i well i do think the cultural revolution | ||
| like Nazi Germany is a point in history that like we should all | ||
| learn something from because how a society gets to that point | ||
| It's it's it's something we all need to be on guard for because it was people killing | ||
| Yeah, are we are we on track to that point? | ||
| well, so for example like one of the like people would call like somebody a counter-revolutionary and | ||
| And, like, I think it was, nobody really knew what that meant. | ||
| It was just, like, that's the bad thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a fascist. | ||
| And, like, or, yeah, or, like, how some people use far-right. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Or alt-right. | ||
| Alt-right. | ||
| You had people spying on each other. | ||
| You had, like, neighborhood committees that were set up specifically to watch whether anybody was getting out of line. | ||
| Parents had to be afraid of their children. | ||
| Yeah, you had children who, like, children were taught in schools to, like, spy on their parents to see if they were a counter-revolutionary. | ||
| And, you know, you had people who actually denounced their parents to the Red Guards, and the Red Guards killed their parents. | ||
| And they thought that they were doing the right thing. | ||
| That's creepy stuff. | ||
| Well, we all know about, you know, Germany during World War II, but when you look at the lives lost then, and when you compare it to the Chinese Cultural Revolution and the leap forward, it's insignificant. | ||
| What are the estimates? | ||
| What are the numbers? | ||
| Because I know there's a lot of debate specifically going around how many people passed away during this period of time. | ||
| What do you think it is? | ||
| Well, it depends on who you listen to. | ||
| For example, according to the Chinese Communist Party, the Great Leap Forward, there was no great famine. | ||
| There was a couple years of bad weather. | ||
| No, it was called the, you know, it was like three years of natural disasters. | ||
| So it was like, it wasn't Mao's fault. | ||
| You know, it wasn't the party's fault. | ||
| It was totally a man-made disaster. | ||
| But like, if you listen, it's like, you know, years of natural disasters, like it wasn't our fault. | ||
| Um, the Cultural Revolution, they don't want to talk about even now. | ||
| Um, right after Mao died, they admitted that he was 30% wrong, but 70% right. | ||
| And then they blamed it on his wife and the Gang of Four. | ||
| So they basically found other scapegoats that they could use so that they could still use Mao as like the great helmsman. | ||
| And that gives you an idea of how bad the Cultural Revolution was. | ||
| The party does not admit any wrongdoing. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And it was so bad that they were like, okay, maybe Mao was not 100% on the ball with that. | ||
| But it was his wife, mostly. | ||
| So I have a friend, I mentioned, I have a friend in Ukraine, and she was telling me how when I was at her apartment, it's like these old Soviet communist block buildings, that neighbors who would have disputes, the easy way to resolve a dispute was they would just call the police and say, my neighbor is bad-mouthing the party. | ||
| And then the next day the apartment would be empty and the person would be gone. | ||
| Off to the gulags to go break rocks. | ||
| I know a story kind of similar from somebody I spoke to who lived this in China. | ||
| Again, top-down government regulations. | ||
| Mao said there was a specific percentage of the population in each area that would be counter-revolutionaries. | ||
| And it would need to be purged so there would be meetings where like the local people like the they have to decide | ||
| who is Who is burning the witch? | ||
| Basically, and what it was is like it would they would just wait until like the first person had to leave to go use the | ||
| restroom And that was that was him | ||
| My grandfather actually got arrested in China, not during the Cultural Revolution. | ||
| You have to understand that the Cultural Revolution was the biggest and worst of these political campaigns, but they never stopped. | ||
| Organ harvesting had fallen gone. | ||
| Since the Chinese Communist Party came to power in 1949, in the 50s there was the anti-rightist movement, there was the They failed. | ||
| 100 Flowers campaign where Mao was basically like, I'm gonna let 100 Flowers bloom. | ||
| Please come criticize the party so we know how to do better. | ||
| And then they basically rounded up and imprisoned and killed all the people who criticized the party. | ||
| You know, so then you had the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution. | ||
| There was a test. | ||
| Yeah, in the 80s. | ||
| Yeah, they did. | ||
| In the 80s there were things like, my grandfather was arrested during one called | ||
| the Anti-Spiritual Pollution Campaign, which was like, too many Western elements | ||
| We need to like purge spiritual things. | ||
| You know what I would do? | ||
| I'd be like, I have a criticism. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party is too good. | ||
| It's just too good. | ||
| That wouldn't work. | ||
| It's too good. | ||
| In the Cultural Revolution, that's a good criticism. | ||
| There was this movement where I forget which country was, but somebody gifted Mao mangoes. | ||
| It was, um, Pakistan. | ||
| Okay, Pakistan. | ||
| And mangoes were like totally unheard of in China at this time. | ||
| And so then there became this cult of people worshipping Mao's mangoes. | ||
| No, I remember this because what happened was, oh I don't remember this, my father remembered this. | ||
| He told me this story many times. | ||
| Oh, he remembered it? | ||
| Yeah, he remembered it because the Prime Minister of Pakistan gave Mao this, like, mangoes. | ||
| Mao gave them to the people. | ||
| Like, he went to like a particular factory and were like, the workers in this factory should get the mangoes. | ||
| And the workers in the factory were like, Mal gave us these mangoes. | ||
| We cannot eat them. | ||
| Let them become symbols of his love for the people. | ||
| So then they literally paraded the mangoes around the country. | ||
| There are propaganda photos where it's like the mass of people and somebody holding up a plate of mangoes. | ||
| There is literally a propaganda movie where they're marching down the street with mangoes. | ||
| It was a huge parade of people. | ||
| And then like mangoes. | ||
| Take a look at this, the cult of mangoes. | ||
| Look at this, there's paintings of someone holding up mangoes. | ||
| And there's little trophies. | ||
| Yeah, and they would make these. | ||
| They made these like fake mangoes. | ||
| Mao's miraculous mangoes. | ||
| Oh, that's our episode. | ||
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| So they made these fake mangoes that they then like brought around to all the different places in China | ||
| were like look at look upon mouths mangoes And my dad went when they came to his village to, like, see the mango. | ||
| And he remembered, like, everybody was so excited to see the mango that came from Mao. | ||
| And then later he realized it was a plastic mango. | ||
| Because obviously the mangoes wouldn't have, like, lasted that long. | ||
| But at the time, everybody really believed that this was one of the mangoes, like, from Mao personally. | ||
| And in that episode, we talk about a story of where like one guy who was like, oh, it looks like a sweet potato. | ||
| They executed him. | ||
| Well, let's be honest. | ||
| If there's one thing that communists are good at, it's sending people to jail and killing them. | ||
| So at least they're good at that. | ||
| They're really good at killing people. | ||
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| A hundred million or more. | ||
| Well, it's interesting. | ||
| We were talking to somebody about, you know, oftentimes people will say, oh, well, you know, they're, they're great technocrats. | ||
| there in China and and that's actually like a horrible thing to it's what it is is like they have these soulless solutions to problems like if you have too many Falun Gong people you need some organs simple tech crack solution take their organ sell it it's become huge business There you go. | ||
| And then I think the thing with us admiring the technocratic ability of China, like when you see in the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times, they're talking about like, you know, China's technocrats that build these like huge skyscrapers and these like high speed rail. | ||
| Which are not just GDP scans. | ||
| You know, or high speed rail, which they stole from Japan, like all this kind of stuff. | ||
| And like, we admire that, in a way, and like, we're like, being this way technocratic is good. | ||
| And then we don't, it's like taking the morality out of it because if you don't talk about, you can't say genocide. | ||
| If you talk about genocide, then you have to kind of grapple with what is actually happening in China. | ||
| Oh, maybe we shouldn't be doing business there. | ||
| Well, another aspect that kind of really worries me with the technocracy is the development | ||
| of artificial intelligence, which we know China is rapidly working on with some | ||
| of the biggest corporations in the world. | ||
| How do you see this kind of race, which Vladimir Putin has kind of described as building the next nuclear weapon, which he described artificial intelligence as, specifically in relation to China? | ||
| Well, it's not just AI. | ||
| There is this bigger problem of China. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party obviously has No moral regulations on things. | ||
| So they're able to invite scientists from around the world to come to China and do, we spoke to a geneticist about this, they can do any, this is getting into Alex Jones territory now. | ||
| Congratulations for not being banned for having him on twice. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| But yeah, they offer scientists and businesses from around the world just unlimited sums of money to do whatever. | ||
| And because there are no privacy laws in China, These big tech companies can have access to data that would be illegal in like the United States. | ||
| You know, the best organ transplant breakthroughs in the past decade have come from China. | ||
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| Oh. | ||
| But because people don't believe that the forced organ harvesting is happening there, even though there is copious amounts of evidence that this is happening. | ||
| For example, I remember this specifically, the Kunming Kidney Disease Center had a promise that if the first transplant | ||
| didn't work, they would keep doing them until it did work. | ||
| And wouldn't charge you. And if you know anything about transplant, it is impossible to have like a bunch of | ||
| kidneys lined up. | ||
| Yeah, there was a story that broke. | ||
| Yeah, there was a story that broke this summer where a Chinese woman who lived in Japan | ||
| Had to go back to China for this is a heartwarming story for a heart transplant | ||
| It took them three hearts before she got one that worked. | ||
| And like it was like it was it was actually like you know portrayed in Chinese state-run media as this great thing that like she was the you know the country cared about her so much the party cared about her so much that they brought her from Japan and they gave her hearts until it worked you know and they accidentally admitted that they had you know Or the bank of prisoners or whatever. | ||
| We, you know, at least I've laughed at some pretty dark things, but it's the sheer absurdity of how awful it is. | ||
| And it's just keeps happening. | ||
| It's been happening. | ||
| I mean, how the, the, the, the, the, the insane stories that we have go back. | ||
| What to what, when, when did this all start happening in China? | ||
| Which specifically are you talking? | ||
| Just like the Communist Party. | ||
| Oh, the Communist Party was doing insane things even before it successfully conquered China. | ||
| We have stories going back, you know, how many years is it now? | ||
| Is it 80? | ||
| It's a hundred years since the party, really. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A hundred years of the most psychotic things you've ever heard. | ||
| And it's only getting worse, it seems. | ||
| With new technology being given by the West. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we sit here today and you know, how long have these concentration camps been going on? | ||
| At least since what, 2017? | ||
| Well, if you're talking specifically about the Uyghurs. | ||
| Probably since 2015, they really started to round people up. | ||
| Phalangong before that. | ||
| Phalangong in 1999. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was like black jails or just the prison systems, military hospitals. | ||
| We were supposed to, uh, you know, never let something like this ever happen again. | ||
| You know, the people of the world. | ||
| We've let it happen twice within the last 20 years. | ||
| And Disney's clapping for it. | ||
| And how many users does Disney Plus have? | ||
| Like a hundred something million or whatever? | ||
| And then the head guy's gonna become the ambassador to China. | ||
| I think he'd be a great ambassador. | ||
| But we're watching all of this happen. | ||
| We know it's happening. | ||
| And for some reason, it's just going to keep happening. | ||
| Well, the media has completely failed on the story of organ harvesting. | ||
| You only really started to see any reporting on organ harvesting in the past year after a group called the China Tribunal, which was led by a guy named Sir Geoffrey Nice, who oversaw the war crime trial of Slobodan Milosevic. | ||
| They spent like a year looking into it and ruled like this is definitely happening. | ||
| This is not a conspiracy. | ||
| This isn't something being made up. | ||
| And in this tribunal there was an interesting story where a former New York Times reporter, D.D. | ||
| Kirsten Tatlow, uh was in China she said she overheard officials talking about organ harvesting. | ||
| It was two doctors she was at like she was doing stories about organ harvesting but not related to the forced organ harvesting related to the idea that China was going to start using organ donors and which is a lie and then she said okay she was at a dinner with these two Chinese doctors and like they were talking about this like the fact that the Chinese um government had said they're no longer going to use prisoner organs And then one of the doctors said to the others, the other, we can't use prisoner organs. | ||
| And the other doctor said, no. | ||
| And then the other doctor was like, what about prisoners of conscience? | ||
| And the other doctor was like, no, can't use those anymore either. | ||
| And then she overheard, she heard them say this in front of her. | ||
| And then she went to her editors and was like, At the New York Times. | ||
| I would like to look into this forced organ harvesting thing because I think, you know, I overheard this conversation. | ||
| There's something weird with the numbers. | ||
| Like, I would like to look into the story. | ||
| And she was discouraged from looking into the story. | ||
| She was told, is there really anything new here? | ||
| Also, you know, the people who talk about organ harvesting are on the outer fringes of advocacy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a nice way of saying that these are only like crackpot conspiracy theorists, people who believe in this. | ||
| And so she was discouraged from looking into this. | ||
| The New York Times still has not covered the tribunal as far as I've seen. | ||
| And then basically she also thinks that bringing this up was one of the reasons she didn't get a promotion later because her editors like were so upset about this. | ||
| It's how the game is played at these media companies. | ||
| Don't rock the boat. | ||
| We want to make money. | ||
| So look, especially right now in media, one of the stories we covered the other day is that CNN's president, Jeff Zucker, is probably going to quit. | ||
| I mean, he's thinking about it. | ||
| They say it's because he's having a bit of a fight with his boss, but come on, no Trump, no ratings. | ||
| They found a really, really easy path that was only somewhat controversial. | ||
| You're not going to make any of your advertisers angry. | ||
| You're not going to make any foreign countries angry. | ||
| You're not going to risk your circulation in certain places. | ||
| If you just rag on Trump 24-7, you'll make money. | ||
| Easiest path to cash. | ||
| No real journalism required. | ||
| And that's what we ended up with. | ||
| Well, so this is great. | ||
| If they collapse, that means people will only have Tim Kast and China Uncensored. | ||
| Well, I think what's going to happen, interestingly, these media companies were on the verge of death before Trump. | ||
| When Trump came in, it gave them something to do. | ||
| Now I think we're going to see some kind of rebalancing between mainstream narratives and independent media. | ||
| So what this means, I guess, ultimately, is that independent channels will have much more influence in the news cycle. | ||
| The New York Times has been doing really, really well. | ||
| CNN, MSNBC, and some of the networks are going to collapse. | ||
| And that means those airport news channels won't have that power. | ||
| So this could be a good thing. | ||
| So maybe it's not over entirely. | ||
| But I do think seeing, you know, I think the Democrats are going to take Georgia. | ||
| Trump's not on the ticket. | ||
| For the Senate, you mean. | ||
| For the Senate, right. | ||
| Without Donald Trump on the ticket, Trump supporters are not going to back Mitch McConnell and the Republicans. | ||
| The Republicans certainly will. | ||
| Trump supporters are telling Mitch, GTFO. | ||
| So if the Democrats end up taking everything and we have a president who is, in my opinion, you know, compromised by China, but at the very least we'll call him sympathetic based on the people you mentioned that he surrounds himself with. | ||
| I think China's, China's going to get carte blanche. | ||
| They're going to do what they want and U.S. | ||
| won't stand in their way. | ||
| If anything, U.S. | ||
| is going to help them. | ||
| The New York Times just put out a piece today about how to reset the relationship with China. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was full of, um, advice from people from Goldman Sachs and Citigroup and Huawei. | ||
| And Huawei. | ||
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| You know, one of the things that sparked the Russiagate investigation was, uh, I could be wrong about this, but it was Michael Flynn. | ||
| I think he was talking to Sally Yates and he said he didn't think Russia was our greatest adversary. | ||
| He thought China was. | ||
| And that alarm bells, oh no, someone's bad mouthing China. | ||
| We, we, we must stop them because everyone knows it's actually Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Biden has talked about how he views Russia as the bigger threat. | ||
| We have the biggest hack, I guess, in history. | ||
| And immediately, they knew it was Russia. | ||
| They're calling it a digital Pearl Harbor. | ||
| This is what the media is saying. | ||
| The cyber equivalent of Pearl Harbor just happened. | ||
| That's what they're saying. | ||
| And it was Russia who did it. | ||
| Now, we've seen no evidence. | ||
| We've seen nothing to indicate we've actually been hacked, other than they told us that's what happened. | ||
| And many people who held stock at SolarWinds, the company that was hacked, sold off a large portion of that stock just before the news broke, so perhaps something happened. | ||
| But now what? | ||
| We're going to be marching into a war with Russia? | ||
| Over what? | ||
| Natural gas? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Meanwhile, the actual threat is China. | ||
| And it's seemingly going to be ignored by this incoming administration. | ||
| I think the Trump administration is trying to do, especially the State Department, is trying to do as much as they can. | ||
| Like, that would be hard for the Biden administration to reverse. | ||
| One of the things about the AI thing that Luke was talking about is after the Trump administration started banning Chinese tech companies from getting US technology like | ||
| semiconductor technology the the chip technology It actually crippled Huawei and ZTE and a lot of these | ||
| Companies SMIC is one of the ones that they're putting on the Commerce Department blacklist today | ||
| And that's China's biggest chip manufacturer, but they don't have the technology | ||
| Like they cannot make the chips as advanced as the US chips are | ||
| So it actually has slowed them down a lot in terms of being able to develop these like supercomputers and things like that. | ||
| But on the other hand, we had U.S. | ||
| companies who were, before this, completely bringing their technology to these Chinese companies. | ||
| A few U.S. | ||
| companies got in trouble for providing technology that was powering this huge Chinese supercomputer center that was basically running 24-7 surveillance in Xinjiang. | ||
| Well, part of the problem is because they think they're doing business with civilian private companies in China. | ||
| But China has a specific civil-military fusion, they call it, where basically every company, private or whatever, has to help the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So there is no separation between the party and private individuals, private companies. | ||
| I think the distinctions between authoritarianism is mostly pointless. | ||
| When we say communist or fascist or Nazi or whatever, the real problem is always authoritarian because they function in much the same way. | ||
| We get into arguments over, but was their economic system based upon, you know, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's pointless. | ||
| The party tells the industries what to do. | ||
| The party tells the people what to do. | ||
| It's authoritarianism. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I think the real end risk is not necessarily that the Chinese Communist Party is going to completely take over the world or the United States. | ||
| As Luke was saying, the Communist Party is actually horribly corrupt. | ||
| It's built on a very shaky foundation. | ||
| I think what the biggest risk is, if we don't stand up now and get more in bed with the Chinese Communist Party, when it collapses, we'll be so tied to that. | ||
| That it will just have a ripple effect. | ||
| We saw what happened with the coronavirus, how there was just things we couldn't get. | ||
| Critical things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And like Italy, one of the first countries to get it really badly outside China, has a lot of ties to China. | ||
| Economic ties and also factories with made in Italy labels that are specifically done through... She went there. | ||
| I went to some of those factories in a city called Prado, which is largely Chinese now. | ||
| And there are sweatshops in the back alleys. | ||
| Exactly, so the Chinese are literally importing slave factories to Italy so they could have made-in-Italy products stamped legally. | ||
| And this is one of the reasons why they said that the coronavirus spread so vastly and so fast in Italy. | ||
| It was because of this program of slave workers going back and forth. | ||
| And Italy was the first Western country to get involved in the Belt and Road Initiative, and so the government was very reluctant to criticize We didn't even talk about Belt and Road, which is a huge way that they're kind of taking over, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is also another example of what Di Dongsheng was saying. | ||
| Even this Belt and Road initiative, which is roughly an infrastructure investment around the world, it still operates in U.S. | ||
| dollars. | ||
| So that's a lot of power the United States still has. | ||
| But if everything is either U.N. | ||
| or whatever digital currency the Chinese Communist Party is trying to run out with, Then we're going to lose that power. | ||
| And then the U.S. | ||
| dollar is going to start losing a lot of value. | ||
| And then we start seeing a ripple effect where other countries start walking away from it. | ||
| Then we get hyperinflation as the U.S. | ||
| struggles to pay off its debts by printing money in quantitative easing type programs. | ||
| And then we start shuffling dollar bills into the gutter figuratively like we saw in Weimar, Germany. | ||
| And then the people who bought cryptocurrency and other hard goods will be safe to a certain degree. | ||
| Are you saying buy Bitcoin? | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| I think people are obsessed with it because, you know, it's useful, it's valuable, and it's scarce and can only become more scarce. | ||
| But I always tell people, if you think that we're coming to a point of hyperinflation where you're not gonna be able to buy anything, what makes you think anyone's gonna want your Bitcoin? | ||
| If I'm starving and dehydrated, I'm gonna be like, get away from me, and I'm gonna run towards the guy who's got a bottle of water. | ||
| So I always tell people, invest in things. | ||
| Here's what I was telling Ian earlier today. | ||
| Think about the most common thing you use throughout the day, and most people use, that is the hardest to produce. | ||
| Whatever that might be, I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| Perhaps antiseptics, that's kind of what we were thinking of. | ||
| Smooth jazz. | ||
| Smooth jazz, that's right. | ||
| You know, when the apocalypse happens, there's gonna be a hot demand for that smooth jazz. | ||
| Queen drinking water. | ||
| Perhaps, but you know, I think what is hard to produce, extremely important, and used on a day-to-day basis? | ||
| Antiseptics. | ||
| That's the first thing I thought of. | ||
| Uh, I don't, I don't know if anybody at the top of their head could tell you how to make alcohol. | ||
| Like actual, like pure ethanol to clean wounds, clean your hands. | ||
| And, and, uh, you could, you could stub your toe out in the woods and lose your foot, lose your leg or die from the shock. | ||
| This goes back to what we were talking about earlier, where people need to start investing in their communities. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The more sufficient, self-sufficient a community is, uh, that will be, that's huge. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And we won't be as dependent on a hostile foreign regime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That will use the power specifically to like, today, the news came out that Turkey is taking 20 million doses of vaccines from China. | ||
| And they also in the same, like the Chinese state we're meeting in the same announcement said that Turkey also said that they, you know, approve of China's counter revolution, like counter terrorism efforts, and that shouldn't be politicized. | ||
| And Turkey will not allow anybody within its borders to talk like, you know, upset Chinese sovereignty. | ||
| And what that means is, They're going after the Uyghurs, because Turkey has the largest population of Uyghur exiles in the world. | ||
| Uyghurs are a Turkic minority. | ||
| So, I heard a lot that our medications are made in China. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Like, the Chinese will manufacture, say, amoxicillin tablets. | ||
| Do we still use amoxicillin? | ||
| Tetracycline. | ||
| Do they make the tetracycline? | ||
| For a lot of the cheaper ones, yes. | ||
| For expensive pharmaceuticals or like more complicated pharmaceuticals, we actually mostly manufacture them in the US. | ||
| But a lot of the cheaper, like generic, like what you're talking about, antibiotics come from China, or a lot of times the raw ingredients for those come from China. | ||
| So, I think we still use tetracycline, right? | ||
| That's a common antibiotic. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Let's talk about a generic medication that's very common. | ||
| When it's manufactured in China and brought here, does it go through a rigorous molecular analysis to make sure what's in that is actually what they claim it is? | ||
| Well, if there was a situation where they were actually exporting, like, Trash that was actually killing Americans? | ||
| That would be a huge issue. | ||
| But you look at the strategy of China, it's not to come in marching with weapons and shooting people down, it's to subvert. | ||
| So if they could put something that... Let's say there's an ingredient they could add in a very small dose. | ||
| Let's say we're producing these genetics that are used, you know, maybe by 100,000 people per day across the United... or 100,000 people per week across the United States. | ||
| We had an ingredient at a ratio of 0.5%, which will create a mortality in the U.S. | ||
| of 0.1%. | ||
| You see what I'm saying? | ||
| It's an attrition game. | ||
| They've talked about unrestricted warfare, which is basically war by other means. | ||
| You don't use troops. | ||
| Everything is kind of on the table. | ||
| This is what they were talking about. | ||
| Drug warfare is on the table. | ||
| Drug warfare is on the table. | ||
| So a lot of the drugs in the U.S. | ||
| are made in China and shipped here like hard, illicit drugs that kill people. | ||
| Where is all of the fentanyl and the opiate? | ||
| I think that's a huge thing. | ||
| And you know, they have total government surveillance, but they somehow don't know when factories are sending fentanyl to the U.S. | ||
| Well, technically to Mexico, which then brings it to the U.S. | ||
| There's connections to the Mexican drug cartels. | ||
| I wonder if, you know, if it's something that I can think about the top of my head, certainly the Chinese Communist Party has had meetings where they're like, Can we add something at a very small dose that would go unnoticed as medications that would create a mortality rate negligible but or unnoticeable but not negligible to us? | ||
| I think that would be hard for them to do. | ||
| I wouldn't say that they wouldn't try to do something like that, but the danger is In that being discovered and the backlash being so because like you look at what they've done with the they tried this whole mask Diplomacy thing a few months ago where they were like, oh we are going to send masks like, you know KN95s for the coronavirus to all these different countries around the world And tech and tests and they were you know, and there was a huge backlash. | ||
| So that was bad for them to have like the quality thing and So if it's like, oh my gosh, drugs from China are faulty, then that would be worse for them. | ||
| But what if nobody noticed? | ||
| Well, I think the point Shelley is making is that that's still a risk of being exposed versus like all the other ways that if they are very successful at subverting the United States, like just buy off Wall Street. | ||
| Or buy off the incoming president, you know? | ||
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Or go after his crackhead son. | |
| They definitely target family members of politicians. | ||
| They'll target small-time mayors or state senators. | ||
| No one is small enough. | ||
| They'll try anybody. | ||
| Even the most insignificant politician you could think of could be sleeping with a Chinese spy. | ||
| Somebody who has no merit or value to the political system. | ||
| Maybe a congressman from California. | ||
| A dopey-looking one with blonde hair. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who farted on camera once. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hey, even a great man like Rudy Giuliani farted on camera. | ||
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Oh, that's true, yeah. | |
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| And my, oh man, do you see when he blew his nose and then wiped his face? | ||
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| Or Giuliani? | ||
| Giuliani. | ||
| I didn't see that. | ||
| Yeah, the congressman we were talking about was Swalwell, who was banging the Chinese spy. | ||
| And, uh, yeah. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Well, actually, I don't even know if that's allegedly. | ||
| Anymore. | ||
| Well, that wasn't in the Axios article. | ||
| I think it was like a later accusation. | ||
| He's not denying it, which is important to understand here. | ||
| But one thing that you brought up that I think is really worth considering is China's relationship with other countries. | ||
| You specifically brought up Turkey, but I really wanted to talk about Russia because there's many official and unofficial alliances that they have with Russia, which again, now Biden is kind of pointing as their main geopolitical foe to the United States. | ||
| But We also have to understand geopolitically on the world stage, Russia and China have always been together, especially when it comes to significant moves against the U.S. | ||
| dollar, and especially when it comes to countering American foreign policy like with Iran, Syria, Iraq. | ||
| They get involved and they work together against U.S. | ||
| interests together. | ||
| So how do you see this kind of working out if the United States pushes towards a bigger conflict with Russia? | ||
| How do you see China being involved in that? | ||
| Well, I think a year or two ago, Xi Jinping actually gave Putin a friendship medal. | ||
| You can look it up. | ||
| It's very nice. | ||
| Aw, was it like a heart? | ||
| And it was like half the heart? | ||
| It was like this big gold, like all these medals all the way down. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| They do these weird things where like Xi will go to Russia and have like caviar, or Putin will come to China and they'll like have Putin make a dumpling. | ||
| And they, um, they, last time Xi Jinping went to Russia, they had, like, Xi Jinping's favorite ice cream. | ||
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| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that, like, well, last time he'd come to Russia, he'd, like, said this ice cream was great. | ||
| So they had, like, buckets of this ice cream. | ||
| Which is why Trump gave Xi Jinping the best chocolate cake ever. | ||
| Remember that when he went to Mar-a-Lago? | ||
| It was the best cake. | ||
| But I think in terms of China and Russia, they will always stand together against the U.S. | ||
| Even if they do kind of hate each other. | ||
| They do kind of hate each other. | ||
| You know, that's the whole Nixon thing where he was like, well, they're split. | ||
| So, um, but like they will always stand like in the UN at any international body, they will unite to stand against the U.S. | ||
| But they're also doing a sharing of technology and sharing of, uh, their military with specific drills that they conduct together as they're, you know, working in cohesion many times as well, which I think is something significant that we should really also look out for as well. | ||
| I mean, but the Chinese military is also working with the Canadian military. | ||
| Yes, they are. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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| Justin Trudeau, the prime minister who said that he worshipped and admired the Chinese government for their efficiency to be able to turn the economy on the dime, is now officially training Chinese soldiers in Canada right now. | ||
| Well, that actually began in 2013 under the Conservative Party. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What was the guy named? | ||
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| Stephen Harper. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| These political parties, I don't know much about Canada, but I'll tell you the Republicans and the Democrats. | ||
| Oh yeah, this was a sailing of Republicans and Democrats. | ||
| Bush messed it up. | ||
| Clinton really messed it up. | ||
| Bush, that's part two, messed it up. | ||
| Obama messed it up. | ||
| Trump kind of went nuts on it. | ||
| I don't know if Trump did good or did well. | ||
| China was like, we can't tell what this guy's doing, he's crazy. | ||
| Meanwhile, Trump was moving in random directions. | ||
| They can't tell what I'm doing, they can't have a cohesive strategy against me. | ||
| Well, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| I don't know if Trump did well or if it's just in comparison to everything that came before. | ||
| It's like, wow, amazing. | ||
| Yeah, like when you're like, oh my God, the U.S. | ||
| State Department is actually talking about human rights abuses in China. | ||
| Should that be shocking? | ||
| Like, should that really be like, wow, I can't believe they're actually doing something about it? | ||
| I mean, we stormed beaches, you know, before. | ||
| The president of the United States can meet with Kim Jong-un, the insane dictator of North Korea, but he can't meet with the president of Taiwan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's geopolitics right now. | ||
| Well how about we go to Super Chats and see what the viewers have to say. | ||
| If you haven't already, smash that like button. | ||
| I see many people have noticed we have this cool fancy new graphic that says smash the like button and share this video. | ||
| Shelly and I have learned that we need to also encourage people to smash buttons. | ||
| Well, I think people genuinely aren't aware. | ||
| It's like a metric YouTube uses for recommendations. | ||
| It is important, yeah. | ||
| And sharing, also. | ||
| It really is a huge help. | ||
| That's why I think they've sort of tried backing away from the like button because there used to be these videos where people would be like, let's get 50 billion likes! | ||
| But they still do. | ||
| It does. | ||
| The more likes it gets, the more they'll share it in the immediate. | ||
| Which is important because of all the things that YouTube has openly said they're going to do that kind of hurt channels like your channel, like our channel. | ||
| So we got a great super chat here from Rudy C. Winslow. | ||
| He says, ACAB. | ||
| Are you guys familiar with ACAB? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Well, all communists are bad. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Oh. | |
| I didn't know. | ||
| I didn't know that was what it meant. | ||
| I see it everywhere. | ||
| What was the thing about communists? | ||
| Was it communist bandits that YouTube sent you? | ||
| Oh, that YouTube was briefly censoring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gongfei in Chinese. | ||
| But I didn't really know that term, communist bandit, right? | ||
| Yeah, but that's a really old, weird term. | ||
| But it's great. | ||
| I keep meaning to use it more. | ||
| So, uh, Eric Cecil says, my response to Andrew Yang's vaccination verification plan is that maybe we should start with requiring a driver's license when voting. | ||
| Eddie Johnson says, I'm so excited that you have China Uncensored, but where's Matt? | ||
| Oh, Matt, uh, Matt is hard at work. | ||
| We've left him, left him back writing scripts while we have fun here with you, Tim. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| Here's a good recommendation. | ||
| Man of Culture says, hey Tim, next time get America Uncovered on the show. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| Hey, America Uncovered. | ||
| I've heard about that show and its handsome host. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I, you know, completely unsolicited, but I recommend you subscribe. | ||
| The host who is absolutely not you, of course. | ||
| No, because I host China Uncensored. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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Yes, yes. | |
| Chuck U. Farley says, Tim and Luke should do a tour with special guests like Jimmy Dorr, Jason Bermas, Esai Morales, et cetera. | ||
| Yeah, that'd be cool. | ||
| Jimmy, Jimmy Dorr is amazing. | ||
| Jimmy Dorr, he's got, he had a great rant about, uh, the transfer of wealth that's going on with COVID and stuff. | ||
| And he's a lefty guy, so he's very much for Medicare for all, but he's basically, he's pointing out the very important things that I think doesn't matter if you're left or right. | ||
| They're extracting wealth, sending it up to the elites, et cetera. | ||
| And I worked with Jason Burmiss before. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| But what would we do? | ||
| We're going to go on tour and just argue with each other maybe? | ||
| You get a big class A camper. | ||
| We do our standard YouTube programming from the camper as we drive across the country and then do late night shows. | ||
| As we cancel each other out by screaming and being too loud. | ||
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| And then Saturday, Saturday or Sunday night, we do a special like, we're in Cleveland, we're doing a live show and we'll get a bit. | ||
| Well, you can't do that anymore because of COVID lockdown, so it wouldn't work. | ||
| We'll pull the camper up into a random park and tell everybody to come and we'll put the speakers on blast. | ||
| Ty Chapman says, Tim, ask about the Chinese India conflict. | ||
| India is dominating last I heard. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Dominating that's that's kind of a stretch That's that's a big topic | ||
| So essentially what China is doing in India is the same as what it's done in South China Sea like salami slicing bit | ||
| by bit They'll like go a little bit further on a disputed border | ||
| build a base and then like if you start to fight back Take the territory. Yeah. Yeah, but India has been great | ||
| about now recently like banning a lot of Chinese apps You've seen India joining. | ||
| The Quad is the great new alliance that has been coming out, which is an alliance between India, the U.S., Japan, and Australia. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And this basically, it began, it was Japan's idea like in 2007, 2008, and it basically died because no one wanted to stand up to China. | ||
| In the past couple of years it's suddenly come back. | ||
| So, yeah, India is definitely on the front line with the fight for the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And they managed recently to take back some territory. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But China has a thing called the String of Pearls, which is basically them making a Not naval bases around the Indian Ocean, just potential deep water ports. | ||
| Like in Pakistan. | ||
| India's good neighbor. | ||
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| Daniel Maxwell says, in the third world countries, China is doing exactly what the U.S. | ||
| was doing during the Cold War with the Soviet Union. | ||
| The major difference is they are also trying to buy influence in the United States and they are succeeding at it. | ||
| Zachary Pasquale says, Chris, what do you think is the biggest, most long-term repercussion for our country under a Biden administration in terms of our unofficial cold war with China? | ||
| Well, a lot of people are encouraging Biden to do a reset, a China reset. | ||
| If that happens, that's bad for, as Tim said, liberal democracy around the world. | ||
| I don't know if you want to add anything to that, shall I? | ||
| Well, basically, yeah, like not standing up to China, um, kind of letting them walk all over the US. | ||
| Like they can't succeed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like they, if they, if we don't do something about it, not just economically, but geopolitically, like if we kind of go back to like engagement and we'll, we don't want to, we don't want to make them mad. | ||
| That is like the number one thing. | ||
| You can't, you can't engage with a country with concentration camps and forced organ harvesting and where having a brother or sister was illegal. | ||
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Yes, correct. | |
| Mitchel says, Chris and Shelly are great guests. | ||
| Their show led me to your show. | ||
| Everyone, keep up the good work. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Cliff Lee says, Chris, Shelly, I'm glad you finally made it on the show. | ||
| Thanks for all your hard work in Hong Kong last year. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It's great to be on the show. | ||
| I had friends, a good friend, Vince, pushed me to get on your show. | ||
| Oh, right on. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| I mean, we've been getting messages all the time recommending you guys saying you, because we always talk about China. | ||
| It comes up, you know, and I guess you guys are the experts. | ||
| I'm happy you guys are here. | ||
| I'm happy you're here. | ||
| Dak941 says, look forward to the show every night. | ||
| Thanks for all you do. | ||
| Two questions. | ||
| What happened to the sig? | ||
| Can someone come by to skate if properly vetted? | ||
| No need to be on the show, just want to skate. | ||
| The answer to number two is yes! | ||
| You can. | ||
| We have two skate parks, we are going to be doing a vlog, and we are going to be... I guess legitimately a private location, but we're gonna allow certain people to come hang out periodically. | ||
| It just depends. | ||
| Once we get the proprietary website up... | ||
| It's going to be over at TimCast.com. | ||
| We're getting pretty close to launching it. | ||
| Probably going to be like a membership thing. | ||
| So there's going to be like a platinum tier members and we'll only have maybe like 10 of those available. | ||
| And those are people who can like come in freely, you know, hang out at the park or whatever. | ||
| And it'll be like a vetted thing for sure. | ||
| As for the SIG, oh man, I don't think anybody asked about that. | ||
| Never got it. | ||
| With all due respect and appreciation to the Crowder team for trying to get me this SIG M400, which would have been awesome, it got sent to a location too far for me to actually go get it. | ||
| And I was in New Jersey, and considering the laws of New Jersey, it would have been... I would just call it impossible. | ||
| It would have required me to have cancelled a portion of my day to drive an hour and a half there and an hour and a half back, and then I would have to wait five days, then drive an hour and a half there and an hour and a half back. | ||
| And that was just completely impractical, so I never ended up getting it, unfortunately. | ||
| And, uh, that's... that's it. | ||
| No SIG. | ||
| So. | ||
| But they tried. | ||
| I have no idea what happened to it. | ||
| I wonder if it just got sent back or something. | ||
| So. | ||
| But hey, it is what it is. | ||
| Sometimes you can't cry over a free gun you didn't get. | ||
| All right, let's see. | ||
| Kylo says, is the CCP attacking Canada and the U.S. | ||
| simultaneously? | ||
| Is this what soft war looks like? | ||
| Oh yeah, Canada is getting hit hard, Australia is getting hit hard. | ||
| I would say it's worse in Canada and Australia than it is in the U.S. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Because they're actually kind of afraid of the U.S. | ||
| That's why U.S. | ||
| is enemy number one. | ||
| So Australia and Canada they saw as like softer targets that are weaker. | ||
| Which is why they've kidnapped Canadian citizens. | ||
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The two Michaels, Michael Kovard and Michael Spavor. | ||
| They've been in China for two years. | ||
| Yeah, basically after Canada arrested the CFO of Huawei because of violations on US sanctions on Iran, China in turn kidnapped two Canadian citizens. | ||
| They were in China. | ||
| They were in China. | ||
| But they've essentially been held without any real charges. | ||
| I think they've been charged now with spying. | ||
| They've been held for two years now and basically made it very clear to the Canadian government that if they release the CFO of Huawei, then these two Michaels get released. | ||
| Trudeau recently said he's hopeful the situation will be resolved. | ||
| Hayden says, it passed by a while back with little attention because of the news cycle speed, but Cocaine Mitch's wife, Elaine, is from a family that runs a shipping company where the ships are built in China with funding from the CCP and ship goods to China. | ||
| Elaine, Secretary of Transportation under Trump. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I was talking about that and sharing the article right before, uh, the show began. | ||
| And even a couple of days ago when Mitch McConnell came up specifically blocking, uh, Trump and of course the election telling the senators not to challenge it. | ||
| We were in DC a couple years ago at a think tank event and somebody brought up Elaine Chao and her and everybody kind of laughed because everybody knew that her family had these close ties to the Chinese Communist Party, but also knew that Washington wasn't going to do anything about it. | ||
| Rita Ho says TSMC is a Taiwanese company and recorded number 1, 53.9%, in global semiconductor foundry market, while Samsung occupied only 17.4%. | ||
| How would this affect the 3C products worldwide when weak Biden let China take over Taiwan? | ||
| Everything's gonna become more expensive. | ||
| Taiwan right now is really trying to market itself as a place where high-quality, high-tech can be made. | ||
| They're hoping as people realize that you can't trust stuff from China. | ||
| I mean, TSMC had a problem last year where there were Chinese spies found in the company who were stealing the intellectual property and bringing it to China. | ||
| But the thing is that Taiwan and the U.S. | ||
| are both better at semiconductor chips than China, so if we can stop China from getting the technology, it'll slow them down a lot. | ||
| Chris Knoll says, on the subject of peaceful divorce, how would this affect global politics, and more specifically, dealing with China? | ||
| I think a split would only help China's ability to assert its will on the world. | ||
| What do you guys think? | ||
| Uh, yes, obviously. | ||
| If the U.S. | ||
| broke into two different countries, like, what are they called? | ||
| The United States of Canada and Jesusland? | ||
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| There would be no United States on the political stage at all. | ||
| Treaties probably wouldn't exist anymore, and there'd have to be all new negotiations with everyone, and who would even control military bases? | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if you guys have any thoughts or anything. | ||
| Well, just one thought. | ||
| You know, obviously the EU and the Brexit was, that's a big topic, but I think to an extent that was advantageous to the Chinese Communist Party that the weaker the EU gets, the less that is a power that can stand up to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And they are infiltrating the EU in other ways, particularly through Greece, Eastern nations, but yeah. | ||
| Desperate ones. | ||
| Carl Schneider says, Tim, I live in Cali and we all got an emergency alert on our phones today telling us emergency alert severe. | ||
| All Bay Area counties now under stay-at-home order. | ||
| COVID-19 is spreading rapidly. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| The good news is... The good news is, everybody, calm down, calm down. | ||
| We have a vaccine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, the vaccine doesn't actually prevent you from getting the virus, we're not sure. | ||
| I believe it was Dr. Vin Gupta said this on MSNBC. | ||
| You still can spread it to others, we think, and you can't travel, you still gotta wear a mask, and no, we're not gonna be releasing the lockdown. | ||
| And if there are any adverse effects, there's no... Pfizer has... There's no liability to the big pharma companies or government compensation. | ||
| Yeah, so it's all on you. | ||
| And so I just see that I'm kind of like, they've bungled this quite a bit. | ||
| Can I still cower at home in fear? | ||
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You can. | |
| Yes, yes. | ||
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If your mask is on. | |
| Yes. | ||
| And if you're going to have anything to eat or drink, make sure you put the mask back on in between sips and bites. | ||
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And in the shower. | |
| And maybe having a nurse that is prone to, quote, fainting, as the official story is now, maybe not have her the representative to get the first jab? | ||
| That is kind of weird. | ||
| That is weird! | ||
| I was wondering about this, because there's a bunch of stories popping up about, you know, that drive fear, and some of them are kind of isolated incidents, like we had an anaphylactic response to a medical worker in Alaska, one person, and I'm kind of like, is that something that needs to be reported? | ||
| Or is the media trying to just kind of like scare us all the time? | ||
| It doesn't sound like the media. | ||
| But I have to wonder, I'm like, don't they want the vaccine? | ||
| And then I realized, no, they were the ones claiming Trump could never pull it off. | ||
| They want ratings. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So now it's, they, they chose the woman who has a fainting disorder and they give her the vaccine and then she faints and the video goes viral. | ||
| Or they give an empty syringe to a guy. | ||
| That was hard to watch. | ||
| Well, I think, I think the simple solution we talked about is he just accidentally reused the other needle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's even worse. | |
| I saw you saying that. | ||
| Whatever it is, whether it's an incompetence or a conspiracy, it doesn't really build trust. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Akapat says, with China, it's all Sun Tzu, the art of war. | ||
| Know your enemy. | ||
| The CCP knows this well and their tentacles are in everything in our country. | ||
| Russia too, but not as prolific. | ||
| We have adversaries that hate us, collectivists. | ||
| I kind of want to push back on that a little bit. | ||
| People always compare it to Sun Tzu, The Art of War. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party was a hard split from the 5,000 years of Chinese culture. | ||
| The tactics of the Chinese Communist Party are communist tactics that you've seen used around the world. | ||
| the way they flip and invert things. | ||
| So I wouldn't say this is a result of Sun Tzu. | ||
| This is specifically communist taxes that they learned from the Soviet Union and improved upon. | ||
| It's one of those things where we don't really want to think of China as like a Marxist-Leninist Maoist country, but it is. | ||
| And because like also people like want to learn about Sun Tzu and Chinese culture. | ||
| That's so much more fun to study than like Leninism, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Pereira says Portugal has a 500 year relationship with China. | ||
| China has invested a lot of money in Portugal, the golden visa scheme, and | ||
| even talked about China, China interest in the Lajes airbase in the Azores. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Trip to Portugal, shall I? | ||
| Yeah, apparently. | ||
| Bailey and says Alaska has a crapload of rare earth minerals some that aren't anywhere else yet | ||
| All the hippie to be tree lovers up there don't want us to mind them in my backyard | ||
| Yeah, yep in the meantime we have these a you know environmentalist climate change people who don't seem to | ||
| care at all about China Well, no, we need to work with China on climate change | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's one of the, you know, that's the kind of line from the engagement people. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That like we need to work with them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get that Paris climate agreement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Lucas Oberhauser says, really glad you had Chris and Shelley on tonight. | ||
| I've been a big fan of China Uncensored for a long time now and has been a great way to keep up to date with what's been happening. | ||
| The US news never covers. | ||
| It is really interesting though. | ||
| It's good and bad at the same time. | ||
| It would be better if we had a media that told you things that actually were important across the board. | ||
| But if people are going to specific sources, like you watch my content and we talk about very specific things in politics, typically rag on the Democrats, and you need a healthy diet, you gotta mix it up with something else. | ||
| We don't really have, you turn the news and they'll give you five minutes of each major segment anymore. | ||
| Maybe that's not even the best thing. | ||
| But then maybe people only hear the news about one thing, and maybe it's better to be more well-versed on single issues than to be only knowing a little bit about a bunch of things, perhaps? | ||
| Good argument. | ||
| Well, I could go either way, I guess. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Cat LLC says Tim you need to have Joshua Phillip too. He made a great documentary about the CCP connections with the | ||
| election. Great show as always. We will look into it. | ||
| Isaac Castillo says everyone exclaim Shelly to show appreciation. | ||
| Texas Ranger says Falun Gong is a cult according to my Chinese American friend. | ||
| The People's Republic of China is an evil, godless empire bent on world domination. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I guess he doesn't like either of them, huh? | ||
| The cult thing was actually something that they managed to use. | ||
| In Chinese, when they first started going after Falun Gong, they didn't call it a cult. | ||
| They called it a heterodox organization, which is anything that the government doesn't approve. | ||
| But cult in English sounds so much better and snappier and makes people hate it. | ||
| Yeah, like how Uyghurs went from, like, splittists to terrorists. | ||
| Yes, basically. | ||
| Jacob Meyer says, Love you, Chris, and I watch China Uncensored every day. | ||
| Thank you for doing what you do. | ||
| I don't know how people like me would ever know what's going on if you weren't there doing the best damn reporting I've ever seen. | ||
| Oh, hey, Tim. | ||
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Just the host. | |
| Rain says, I'm so glad you have these guys on. | ||
| I've watched China Uncensored on and off for years and hearing them in conversation, it helps out a lot of context. | ||
| There you go. | ||
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Very cool. | |
| Drizzd says, Obama threw our oath to help Ukraine when Russia invaded them. | ||
| So I'm sadly not surprised about Southeast Asia. | ||
| That's a good point too. | ||
| Brewmaster Monk says, a hot war would be a useful way for China to deal with its gender imbalance, especially if they think their liberalization is inevitable anyways. | ||
| The one way they actually are dealing with the gender imbalance is the Belt and Road Initiative because they can export all of these young men who are not, like, can't find jobs or, you know, wives and, like, you know, send them to Africa or South America and they can go build the roads there. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ted says, Chris, I've been following your show for years and I've been asking Tim in the chats for weeks to have you on and I'm so glad it happened. | ||
| Chris, Shelly, Tim, Lids, I love you guys and I've been sharing your content a lot. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
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What about me? | |
| Well, Luke is a great guy. | ||
| I needed that. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Not good at username says, Duterte is making a big mistake ending Philippines relations with the U.S. | ||
| and getting closer with China. | ||
| Talk about independency. | ||
| Yeah, I think Duterte definitely, when he was campaigning, he was like, I'm going to stand up to China. | ||
| And then when he got into power, he was immediately like, the Philippines could be another Chinese province. | ||
| And we haven't even talked about all the horrible things that are happening in South Korea right now. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Waffles Sensei says, Hey Tim, don't you think it's really weird that the narrative was set so fast to blame Russia for the cyber attacks? | ||
| Could be true. | ||
| But I think in the long run, we will need Russia as an ally and an enemy for the days ahead. | ||
| I believe Trump understood this too. | ||
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That's what I thought. | |
| China has hacked the U.S. | ||
| I do think them immediately coming out being like, it's cyber Pearl Harbor and Russia did it. | ||
| I'm like, okay, well we need to have like hearings or something or some legitimate news coverage, | ||
| not from someone I don't trust. | ||
| China has hacked the US a lot in the past. | ||
| And we've not done anything about that, huh? | ||
| They're probably hacking us right now as we speak Is this a podcast? | ||
| Oh, we didn't even talk about Zoom. | ||
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Oh, Zoom. | |
| Yeah, that was a big story. | ||
| The Department of Justice just unsealed an arrest warrant for a Chinese Zoom executive for literally taking user data from the U.S. | ||
| and giving it to the Chinese government. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Uh, and so that's when everybody was like, Zoom is like, it's kind of sketchy because it has, you know, all the stuff in China and the servers in China. | ||
| Should we be worried about it? | ||
| The answer was obvious. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Cameron Ham says China's spy list leaked and two days later, our entire government was hacked and they blame Russia. | ||
| It's clear it was China. | ||
| Well, the hack happened nine months ago. | ||
| And I believe that was under Chris Krebs, who was recently fired by Trump. | ||
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Oh, but he told me it was very secure. | |
| He said we had this most secure election ever, and he didn't even realize the biggest hack had happened right under his nose. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| Jessica says, really enjoy Luke on the live show and very excited for the future content you have planned. | ||
| Keep doing what you're doing, Tim. | ||
| I've learned so much to discover your channels. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Well, thank you for watching and your super chat helps sustain us. | ||
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There you go, Luke. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Bill says, yes, an international investigation found based on Spanish sewer samples that COVID-19 was present at least six months before the fake outbreak. | ||
| God forbid we use science facts and reason. | ||
| Well, I don't know about all of that, but thanks for the super chat. | ||
| Well, there was some data and suggestions that this sickness was around far earlier than originally thought. | ||
| So the origin, we still don't know where it came from. | ||
| We still don't have a patient zero, but magically in six months we have a rushed experimental vaccine that's going to fix everything. | ||
| So that's great. | ||
| But what we do know is it definitely did not come from China. | ||
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Definitely. | |
| Of course. | ||
| Let's see, uh, CrazyManJack says, The sickest thing I have ever seen was a video of a man boiling a dog alive, prodding it with a stick to keep it in the wok. | ||
| Supposedly they believe the more pain they cause the animal, the better it tastes. | ||
| Please ask your guests why this is a thing. | ||
| Is that a thing? | ||
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It's... | |
| Well, there's... Overall, the Chinese people do not eat dogs. | ||
| That has not really been a thing. | ||
| Uh, except for, like, in extreme famine times. | ||
| In Vietnam, they do, though, don't they? | ||
| Well, it does happen in Korea. | ||
| In Korea, they do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there is this thing called, like, the... What is it? | ||
| Yunnan dog meat? | ||
| Dog Meat Eating Festival. | ||
| I forget where it is, but then yeah, the specific festival is dedicated to eating dogs. | ||
| And they do believe that the more pain, the better it tastes. | ||
| It was kind of like a weird PR stunt by this town where they were like, we don't have anything we're known for. | ||
| I know we'll have a dog eating festival. | ||
| Cause it's not traditional in China to eat dogs at all. | ||
| I always, I always thought people were worried that the fear and pain would make the meat taste bad. | ||
| Like it would cause chemical imbalances. | ||
| No, not according to these chefs. | ||
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| Thanks. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Ted2 says, Chris Shelley, I'm a huge longtime fan of your shows, of all your shows. | ||
| I commented repeatedly asking Tim to get you to... Oh, is this the same comment? | ||
| Is it weird? | ||
| Or is YouTube just doubling it up? | ||
| Many people have the same opinion about us. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Sebastian Serva says, any opinion on Ripple, XRP, or cryptocurrency in general, and ISO 20022? | ||
| Do you think this fits into the agenda of adapting digital currency, global capital, and maybe even the Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution? | ||
| I think Bitcoin's going to be worth an insane amount of money in a certain amount of time. | ||
| I don't know the exact timeframe. | ||
| There are some people predicting that within the next year or two, one Bitcoin will be $300,000. | ||
| Some people are saying by the end of this year, so in the next couple of weeks, we'll see it at $28,000, which is easily doable. | ||
| I mean, it's already at $22,000 or $23,000. | ||
| It's gone down a little bit. | ||
| I do think a Bitcoin will be upwards of a million dollars at some point. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, but you have to think about it. | ||
| It's not a bold prediction. | ||
| Bitcoins can only disappear. | ||
| So, I actually had a computer with some coins on it a long time ago. | ||
| Got destroyed. | ||
| Those coins are gone. | ||
| You can't bring them back. | ||
| So, so long as there's a finite amount of the coins, but the utility remains and people are holding it, the more people who want to buy it that exist, but the shrinking supply means the price can only go up in the long run. | ||
| Unless, of course, people ultimately just abandon it because they don't want it. | ||
| I really don't think that would be the case because... | ||
| There's a real utility in it, in transferring wealth and value very quickly. | ||
| So I ultimately think a Bitcoin will be worth more than a million. | ||
| I mean, if Bitcoin remains the dominant most coin that people have confidence in, cryptocurrency, then at a certain point the currency will become more and more scarce, but more and more valuable. | ||
| More people want it, less of it exists, the trajectory is just straight up. | ||
| If you want to use it for some utility purpose, like if I want to transfer a hundred bucks to Luke, I don't care about the value of the currency. | ||
| I'll buy a hundred dollars worth of Bitcoin, send it to Luke, and he'll sell it. | ||
| All within a split second. | ||
| So it's almost like a value protocol. | ||
| You've been using that with the people you've been working with in, like, Europe, right? | ||
| Crypto? | ||
| Well, like, paying people like that. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The people I've paid have always been just the regular old way. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| It's like, you know, PayPal or something. | ||
| Who am I thinking of? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But if someone wants to buy that, the people who are holding it are essentially holding that service. | ||
| So if you're like, hey I need to buy some coins sent to my buddy, then the person who has it can charge whatever they | ||
| want. | ||
| But you don't care, you're like, I want $100 worth. | ||
| Okay, well I'll give you one, you can sell it for one. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So whatever the value is, I think ultimately it'll just keep going up. | ||
| But maybe not, I don't know. | ||
| I think it ultimately will because it's everything global elites and special interests want. | ||
| Completely traceable. | ||
| We were talking about this earlier. | ||
| Andrew Yang posted, is there a way we can check to see if everybody's been vaccinated, right? | ||
| I'll tell you what I'm surprised they haven't already done, is a cryptocurrency for tracking vaccinations and contact tracing. | ||
| Because think about it, you'll have a public ledger. | ||
| They can see if you've been vaccinated. | ||
| Why are you giving them ideas? | ||
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I'm not. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Because I'm sure they had the idea already. | ||
| Oh, maybe not. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| It's a good idea. | ||
| I mean, I think it's a nightmarish scenario. | ||
| It's mass surveillance. | ||
| But if you think about how contact tracing works, you go to a restaurant and they're saying they're going to scan your barcode or whatever. | ||
| Imagine if it was all just on the blockchain. | ||
| Everything just, you know. | ||
| I actually think that'd probably be bad for them. | ||
| That's probably why they didn't do it. | ||
| They want the proprietary information, tracking all your information, knowing everything about you, and not letting anyone see it. | ||
| So they don't want it publicly on the blockchain. | ||
| All right, let's see what we got here. | ||
| Bandrew Scott says, Chris and Shelley, short of sharing China Uncensored with everyone we know, what can we do to help fight the human rights abuses in China? | ||
| Limit purchases of products made in China or something else? | ||
| We get that question a lot. | ||
| I mean, definitely sharing. | ||
| The episode was good. | ||
| I'm not saying that just for self-interest, but like the more people who are aware, it's really important. | ||
| But, you know, like study Chinese in school, get involved in think tanks, involved in politics. | ||
| We need people who know what's going on in positions of power. | ||
| I mean, that's a long-term thing. | ||
| But yeah, it's pretty important because you have like 30 years of this engagement school coming through now, right? | ||
| Where people are still, they're going to like Georgetown or you're going to like these places where all they teach is that they don't teach about China's, you know, political warfare or their unrestricted warfare. | ||
| Oh, no, they teach that America is bad and racist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you have these people who are not like, and then they get into positions of power. | ||
| So it's pretty important that, you know, people understand what's happening. | ||
| Even in the military, it's an issue. | ||
| So join the military. | ||
| I think that, you know, limiting things that you buy from China is a help. | ||
| Sometimes it is almost impossible. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| But, um, yeah, I try to do that whenever possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Douglas says Paul Revere Award for China Uncensored. | ||
| Ooh, there you go. | ||
| I like awards. | ||
| Lone Wolf says, Great show Tim and gang. | ||
| I used to play PUBG on PC but had to stop playing because Chinese players would fill NA servers and use cheats and hacks. | ||
| 90% of banned players were Chinese. | ||
| Cheating and abusing the system is the CCP way. | ||
| World of Warcraft had a thing for a while where there were Chinese gold farms. | ||
| Do you guys know anything about that? | ||
| I've heard about that. | ||
| Do you guys know anything about World of Warcraft? | ||
| So, uh, you're playing World of Warcraft, this is back in the day, way back in the day. | ||
| Because things are different now, you can just buy gold for your character through a system they've created. | ||
| Back in the day, you know, when I was playing World of Warcraft in like 06, you would, you'd go around, it's called grinding, you're killing monsters, and then you'd get their stuff and you'd sell it to the vendors and you'd get copper and silver and gold. | ||
| But some players were rich, and they didn't want to have to actually play the game to play the game. | ||
| They wanted the good stuff now, and they needed money to get it. | ||
| So, in China, people would play the game and just go around just grinding and killing monsters, and it was extremely tedious work. | ||
| And then you could go on these websites, pay money, and then they would mail you in-game the currency. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Video game slave labor. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it was, it was against the rules and a lot of people got scammed and their characters and accounts got stolen. | ||
| And there were reports where people were like, I was buying gold and now my account is gone and they destroyed everything. | ||
| I'd say, yep. | ||
| Everything you've ever, you've played for your game is gone. | ||
| Kind of exactly what's happening with American companies going into China. | ||
| That's the name of the game. | ||
| Oh wow. | ||
| Don Paulson says, hi, Chris. | ||
| Is there any kind of push to create some form of civilian defense force in Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion? | ||
| I love your show. | ||
| Oh, Taiwan already has a pretty robust military, especially as the U.S. | ||
| over the past couple of years has been selling more and more weapons to Taiwan. | ||
| So it would not be an easy invasion. | ||
| Taiwan also has mandatory military service for all men. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they got, uh, what's his name? | ||
| Jin, not Jin Yong. | ||
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| The guy we interviewed, the Joe Rogan of Taiwan, who said he would personally fight them. | ||
| Oh, uh, Holger Chen. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tito Latino says, and this is something we gotta fact check, but I'm gonna read it anyway. | ||
| August 9th, 2020, Wall Street Journal, U.S. | ||
| NSA mentions China trying to hack U.S. | ||
| Secretary of State voter rolls. | ||
| Statement also said that China prefers that President Trump, a Republican, not win re-election. | ||
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| Interesting. | ||
| Unlix Go says, Tin Cap, what if someone bought BTC when it was $10,000 for $1 and spent $1,000? | ||
| Do the math. | ||
| But it's like gold. | ||
| Try to buy milk with it. | ||
| Kinda tough. | ||
| But it's just a story. | ||
| Well, I almost bought about 6,500 Bitcoin in 2011. | ||
| My friend was like, don't do it, man. | ||
| It's like, what is... This was back in the day, they had this thing called the Bitcoin Faucet, where it would give out, I think, 0.05 Bitcoin for free, every like 10 minutes. | ||
| And you could just like, put in your address or whatever, and then you just get it. | ||
| And so I was like, huh, now I have like, you know, 3 cents worth of Bitcoin I can't do anything with. | ||
| And I was like, this is dumb. | ||
| But I ended up with a few coins on a computer. | ||
| Computer got destroyed in a fire. | ||
| Those coins are gone forever. | ||
| But my buddy, we were looking at this website and it was like you could buy, it was really hard to buy Bitcoin back then. | ||
| You had to like directly message someone and then like physically give them money and then they would send the coins to your address. | ||
| And it happened almost instantly because the blockchain was a lot smaller. | ||
| My friend was like, dude... | ||
| It's worthless. | ||
| You can't do anything with it. | ||
| It's probably some dude who just made some scam online. | ||
| Hey, give me your money and I'll give you this number. | ||
| And then next thing you know, it goes belly up and you lost your savings. | ||
| And I was like, that's a good point, man. | ||
| You know, the technology is interesting, but why would anyone use this? | ||
| It's hard to give up your savings at the time. | ||
| And then I remember it was like, uh, a year later, it was like $35. | ||
| And I was like, how much money would I would have had if I just bought it? | ||
| Oh, you told me I had to do it. | ||
| And we were like, I was pulled the calculator. | ||
| And then it just gets better every year. | ||
| How much, I think it would be $145 million. | ||
| However, people point out, dude, you would have sold a long time ago. | ||
| You would have put in your five grand or whatever. | ||
| And then once it hit 20 bucks, you would have danced all the way to the bank, sold it all out for a massive return. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, definitely, definitely. | ||
| Because, you know, it's just a smart thing to do. | ||
| Like, any investment. | ||
| Granted, if you were alive today, if you were alive today and you could go back in time, you'd be like, never sell. | ||
| So think about that. | ||
| You know, never selling. | ||
| I remember a couple of years ago, I think it was like 2016, it hit like 7 grand. | ||
| And everyone was like, this is ridiculous, it's too high. | ||
| And then it fell down to like 3 grand. | ||
| Imagine if you bought back then. | ||
| You'd be very happy. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| If it goes to a million. | ||
| Chris and Shelley, thanks so much for hanging out. | ||
| Thanks for having us. | ||
| Do you want to shout out your social medias and your channels one more time for everybody? | ||
| Yeah, you can follow China Uncensored on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. | ||
| I also recommend that show, America Uncovered, by that other guy. | ||
| Also on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and that one actually has a Parler account as well. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| And, uh, you can follow me on Twitter. | ||
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| And we also have a podcast called China Unscripted that we're all in. | ||
| So, yeah, cool. | ||
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| Right on, everybody. | ||
| Again, thanks so much for hanging out. | ||
| This was a great conversation and we'll probably have you back on at some point. | ||
| I'm sure the conversation around China will get spicier as time goes on. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| Lots of fun. | ||
| And I can't believe I'm sitting in the chair that Alex Jones sat in. | ||
| Is that why you picked that side? | ||
| You're like, I want to sit in Jones's chair. | ||
| Well, I can feel the residual male vitality. | ||
| Michael Malice left his super male vitality here. | ||
| It's just been sitting here. | ||
| I don't know what to do with it. | ||
| So it's just on the table. | ||
| People are walking in. | ||
| Whenever someone comes in, I go, it's for you, actually. | ||
| And then I take it back. | ||
| Michael, come get your super male vitality. | ||
| Well, hey, instead of worshiping mangoes, we can worship Mike Malice's super male vitality. | ||
| Let's get a painting of the people holding it up. | ||
| And what's the other one called? | ||
| The brain blast? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Yeah, brain blast. | ||
| That's the Jimmy Neutron thing. | ||
| Anyway, Thanks for hanging out everybody. | ||
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