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Nov. 19, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Protests ERUPT Over Forced Vaccinations In Europe w/ Ryan Long
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tim pool
you you
you that I've actually pulled up the the Ron Paul
I'll call it an animation because I don't want to trigger the controversy again.
So look, we're still waiting to see what happens with these recounts.
The deadline is tonight, whether or not Trump will pull off some Hail Mary and figure out a way to actually win the presidency.
We'll see.
In the meantime, we've actually got really crazy stuff going on.
So notably in Denmark, if you saw the title, there's actually a mandatory vaccination law So there's been ongoing protests.
They're banging pots and pans.
They're screaming.
Not really a riot or anything like that.
But there are riots across Europe.
We're now seeing lockdowns are hitting every state.
New York's locking down.
They're shutting down schools.
Stores are being stripped clean.
And it's like, all right, this is probably a bit more pressing.
We should probably talk about this.
So because this is such a very serious and important topic that is life or death, we brought in Ryan Long to hang out with us.
ryan long
Thank you very much and before we even get into that there's some bigger pressing news is I have an injury because I was brought by Tim Pool to his skate park and I requested a skate park and then that's when he cracked out the razor scooters and soap shoes and he says he feels more comfortable in that avenue.
tim pool
As long as no one knows.
ryan long
Yeah, people don't know that about Tim Pool is that it's all razor scooters and soap shoes.
He's grinding the rails with his shoes.
And this is what happens.
You end up with quite the scenario here.
tim pool
This dude was jumping around like a little kid and then he fell down and went... And I was like, oh jeez.
ryan long
He had Kid Rock blasting.
lydia smith
How dare you?
ryan long
My name is Tim!
As he razor-scooted down the guardrail.
tim pool
There's no guardrail down there.
ryan long
Well, there isn't anymore after my injury.
tim pool
So, you know, it is kind of a joke that we bring in Ryan to talk about something very serious, but I gotta say, you know, it's probably better that we laugh, considering the world seems to be falling apart, you know, so we'll roll with it.
But, you know, Ian's chillin' too.
ian crossland
I never won.
ryan long
He doesn't want to rat out Tim.
tim pool
And we have, of course, we have Ron Paul.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
No, I was going to say, we have me, but we also have Ron Paul.
lydia smith
Way more.
ian crossland
Ryan, would you call that a gif or a jif?
lydia smith
Yeah, which is it?
ryan long
That's a gif to all of us.
lydia smith
Thank you, Canadians.
tim pool
That's why I called it an animation.
Or it's not really an animation.
I don't know what it is.
ian crossland
An animated gif?
tim pool
No, what would you it's like a loop.
What would you call the video?
It's only like four frames above.
Yeah, it's happening.
So a lot of things have been it's happening lately.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
So yes, of course, Lydia's here too.
but uh like so we have the it's happening with the crazy election now we have the it's happening with the covid lockdown and in europe like it's gone absolutely insane so before we get started smash the like button hit the notification bell we're live monday thursday at 8 p.m and let's just talk about what's going on man What's going on, Ryan?
ryan long
Well, I just came back from New York.
They just, uh, they locked the... They take comedy down from 12 o'clock to 10 o'clock and all the clubs and everything like that.
And they just closed up the schools.
So, me personally, I'm waiting for a new, like, 11-year-old girl.
Maybe if there's, like, a Greta Kovberg.
That can tell us what to do because, you know, we knew what to do about global warming, but then now... Well, we didn't until she came along.
That's what I mean.
They haven't ushered in a new 11-year-old chick that has all the answers lately.
tim pool
She's like 18.
ryan long
She looks like she's loving it.
Joe Biden's like 95,000.
I'm like, I'm kind of accustomed to listen to 11-year-olds nowadays.
I'm conditioned.
tim pool
It is kind of funny, though, that it's like, where are the regular aged people?
Like, we either have little kids or we have really old people, you know?
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously, what's up?
tim pool
I guess we have, you know... No, I... Can you name... There's somebody, isn't there?
ryan long
Ted Cruz.
No, I can't name anyone under the age of 90.
tim pool
Ted Cruz.
unidentified
Okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Alright, there you go.
Ted Cruz.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
lydia smith
He's okay.
tim pool
But I mean, like, on the left, for, like, their climate change.
It's like, Usher, bring out the little girl.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's always some little kid.
ryan long
And then they always have like a reactionary right-wing guy that's like, I was 12 and I actually like it.
You know, I think Goldworm Instinct.
tim pool
They do though, they do.
ryan long
He goes the other way, yeah.
tim pool
I forgot the kid's name, but there was some right-wing kid who came out like challenging.
ryan long
There's always sort of a, yeah, an opposition.
lydia smith
What is this reactionary?
tim pool
Crazy, what is...
ryan long
Anyway, anyway, no, the lockdown right now, it's crazy.
Obviously, as soon as Trump lost, Brooklyn went nuts.
And it was lockdowns are over again.
It was a rave.
So I went there, they had like Burning Man trucks, people were dancing, it was, you know, people were crying, they couldn't be happier, right.
And they had a people had a bag of Cheetos, and they were putting them on the floor and then stomping them ceremonially.
Like, yeah, to Cheetos, because the orange man was dead.
lydia smith
And Just wasting Cheetos at that point.
ryan long
It was a branded sponsor actually.
Okay, I got it.
They're very industrious over there.
tim pool
Cheeto is throwing out bags of people so they can stomp on them.
ryan long
Jokes aside though, I do the Cheeto Hour podcast if you want to.
And it's going to be very hard to sell now with Trump.
So we're going to need the press.
So they locked everything down.
Here's the perfect...
It's so crazy because I'm watching businesses one by one drop and like real friends of mine,
And people are still writing articles being like these, you know, Nazis.
Like here, for example, there's this one comedy club that was doing shows, wrote a bunch of articles.
They're trying to shut it down.
If you actually talk to the guy, he goes, dude, I literally, I'm a comedy club owner and I have a family to feed.
And you know, we can't get money either.
Like I shut down this club, go bankrupt, go on welfare, or I'm trying, I'm going to try to do some shows and try to make some money.
So this is where a lot of people are at.
And then three places closed down.
And there's nothing really anyone could do, so people try to make do and then they get called whatever, like, you know, murderers and all this sort of stuff.
tim pool
Is that people really calling them murderers in New York?
Like, worse!
ryan long
You know?
Worse!
They're calling them racist!
unidentified
I know, right?
ryan long
One worse than murderer!
lydia smith
That would be racist, correct sir.
That's so weird.
tim pool
That the racist thing really works on people.
ryan long
Yeah, no.
But I mean, people know what to do.
And even if they do, they have these big leases, so they try to make a little bit of money by running a show, and then people shut it down.
And that's why now, I think, even what you're talking about, they're just saying, you know what, we're tired of tricking people.
Remember before, for a while, they would just tell us some bullcrap stuff where they go, oh, I remember all the articles that were like, you know, you actually look sexy in a mask.
And then they showed a picture of Tom Hardy, and he'd be like, dude in a mask, looking sexy.
And you're like, okay, well, that's Tom Hardy.
And that's, that's kind of like what they were doing.
And then, and then eventually, they're like, hey, we don't even have to lie to them anymore.
We could just like, tell them to stay in their house, and that'll be the end of it.
tim pool
And then start berating and insulting them.
ryan long
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
That is crazy.
Like, yeah, when this all started, it was like, guys, please, you know, it's 15 days to slow the spread.
We've got to work together on this.
And now that it's been almost a year, they're like, shut your mouth and get back in your hovel.
ryan long
Yeah, I'm done.
We're done listening.
I actually respect the people that are kind of fighting the power.
Like, there's this one comedy club, they go...
Cause you can be in synagogues right now and they go, they just announced, they go, we're actually doing synagogue shows now.
It's like, we just want to get out there and we, and everyone's like, I see what you guys are up to.
tim pool
They're targeting.
ryan long
I know what you're thinking.
It'd be hard to get paid, but.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
No, you do the show.
ryan long
No, I'm just saying because it's illegal.
lydia smith
I don't know.
I was thinking, I'm sorry.
ryan long
Because you're skirting around the law.
No, you try to get paid and you're like, hey, you promised $50 and they say $20.
What do you need $10 for?
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
That's an old joke.
unidentified
I know, right?
Oh my gosh.
ryan long
Old joke for an old comedy show.
tim pool
Oh my goodness.
But they're actually targeting the Jewish community pretty heavily in New York City.
There's now a rumor that cops have binoculars and they're trying to look through windows to see if they can find people practicing a religious Jewish ceremony of some sort so they can come down on them.
I'll tell you what the craziest thing to me is.
ryan long
That you could wear a cop uniform and tell people you're doing that?
tim pool
Seriously?
Yes.
ryan long
Oh, these binoculars?
I'm a cop!
I'm a pig!
Why am I watching you shower?
It's COVID reasons.
I'm a cop.
So, you know us cops, we're the worst.
Up to our old tricks.
tim pool
We're actually at a point where the city government is destroying businesses by force.
Specifically singling out the Jewish community.
So this was, this, this is actually specific.
There's hotspots and Cuomo announces, we're going to do this lockdown in these areas.
And somebody was like, Hey, wait a minute.
Those are all Jewish areas and you're ignoring the hotspots that aren't Jewish.
What's up with that?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
shut your mouth and they just keep doing it. Then they arrested one of the guys who was leading the
protests against it. So you quite literally have, this is a very funny phenomenon, the government is
ordering people to lock down in the United States across the country and it's happening all over
Europe. This is empowering massive corporations. So when the mom and pop shop shutters, Amazon gets
all the money. So you have this very, you know, let's just call it inadvertent lucrative merger
between corporation and states.
ryan long
Dude, it's the biggest transfer of wealth in our lifetime.
tim pool
While they're targeting the Jews.
What is that?
Does this sound like something familiar?
ryan long
Well, I will be clear.
To put a tiny wrench in that theory, when they're targeting the Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn, that's not really, historically, the wealthy Jews in New York.
tim pool
Right.
ryan long
It's a kind of a...
tim pool
Well, so, but the issue was when they announced they were going to be locking down the hot
spots, it was like they just pointed to the Hasidic Jewish neighborhood and then ignored
the hot spots outside of it.
So it's like, what are you doing?
They went to the park and they chained the park shut in the Jewish neighborhood.
And a bunch of people...
ryan long
So are you pro or against this?
tim pool
The lockdown?
ryan long
No, the Jew targeting.
tim pool
I'm totally against it, and I'm pointing out how crazy it is that we actually have some kind of faux pseudo-fascism.
And I say that because, first of all, the authoritarianism, the total lockdown and stuff is authoritarian.
But the idea that the government is going to lock everything down, and it benefits these massive corporations greatly to the point where they consolidate power, It sounds very fascistic.
Like, you know, Mussolini said, the merger of the corporation and the state, you know.
And then you have the academic definition, which doesn't really apply, but it's fairly fascistic.
ryan long
Dude, you never have to... It's so much easier to just get people to root for what you already want them to do.
Like, literally, right now, all these businesses are shutting down, and who's the number one person that's for it?
You know, the public.
unidentified
You know, lock us in our houses, give me a bedtime!
ryan long
People are demanding, put me in my pantry and give me my ration of donut once a day, you know?
tim pool
Have you seen the meme where it's like, yay, we defeated fascism, quick, force, you know, now the enforced lockdowns.
ryan long
Yeah.
So, and these people, I've seen so many people that are friends of mine that they're, they're so pro this, and then they kind of go the same, in the same breath.
They don't have a problem with the hypocrisy that like Amazon's getting rich and all these companies, countries are, you know, companies are getting rich.
It's sort of, but you'll see this so much.
Like I just, uh, You know how there used to be like labor parties and now they all just kind of got woke and now they're essentially like elitist.
They don't even care about anything.
tim pool
Managerial parties.
unidentified
HR departments.
ryan long
They are.
They're like elitist labor parties.
They kind of hate the working class for the most part, right?
tim pool
Oh, totally, yeah.
ryan long
So I saw them on the other day.
They were making a video and they were posting on the directing sites and stuff like that.
And they're like, hey, we're casting for this video.
We're looking for non-union talent and non-union directing.
They're making a video about how unions are great.
No, for real?
unidentified
Really?
Wow.
ryan long
And they're casting non-union talent.
And it was like, not even a speck of problem with these hypocrisies that they hold in their own opinions.
And you go, well, why don't you want to hire unions?
You're like, well, because it's too expensive for us.
And you're like, but anyways, back to our Steelworker video.
It's like, they don't care.
tim pool
Having someone go on camera, non-union labor, to read a script about how unions are great.
ryan long
It's absolutely insane.
tim pool
It's remarkable.
ian crossland
Church of Scientology hired me to do a Scientology video about the right to marriage with my girlfriend who I wasn't married to, but that was a weird experience.
tim pool
It's just fake.
It's all fake.
ian crossland
This world is made of plastic.
tim pool
It's all plastic.
You know what's funny?
There's a video out of Seattle where a bunch of construction workers are protesting socialists The socialists showed up to Amazon, and they're protesting Amazon, and it's like woke college students, you know, glasses, very typical, colored hair.
And they're like, the working people, and then all of a sudden the construction workers start shouting them down.
Like, these people aren't the working class.
They're the bourgeoisie wearing a working class mask, trying to convince everybody that they're, you know, for the working class and for actual laborers.
And they're literally, this is funny, the wokeness stuff, it's all HR department.
So it's quite literally, the Democrats have become the political party of HR departments, managerial elites, wealthy bankers.
The wokeness, it's because, oh no, we can't have none of that, you know, don't wanna get sued.
ian crossland
And students too.
It's like HR departments and students unite.
ryan long
Well yeah, and especially once they run out of actual targets, you find them, like if you look at some of the stuff that's been going on where they go, you know how J.K.
Rowling's got cut down or whatever, right?
Like, they would agree with her on 99.9% of stuff.
And it was like, you don't comply for the extra 1% and that's kind of not enough.
Hey, you gotta burn something, huh?
Exactly.
There was a new one with Lizzo, and she basically came out, and I always said, Lizzo's a huge inspiration to the Fat Gross community.
She said recently that... It's true.
She's a big inspiration in the fat-gross community.
She said that the fat-gross movement, people weren't fat and gross enough, and she was like, it got taken over by white chicks and they aren't even fat enough.
tim pool
Are you talking about body positivity?
ryan long
This is true!
tim pool
Are you talking about body positivity?
ryan long
Yes!
unidentified
That's what she said!
ryan long
Oh my god!
And you go...
You go, yeah, this is helping anybody, you know, the fat movement isn't fat enough.
tim pool
That's what's really funny about like the COVID stuff and the lockdown is that there's not going to be a body positivity movement in a year.
ryan long
No.
tim pool
Because everyone's going to be gaunt and like, feed me!
unidentified
Communism!
tim pool
Yeah, right?
No businesses, no food, no stimulus.
People are going to go hungry.
You know, maybe that's the real conspiracy, because I was reading that there's a conspiracy theory that the global elites are, like, faking everything because they just want to kill poor people.
ryan long
This guy hangs out with Alex Jones one day.
tim pool
One day!
Just one day!
I heard it from him, and I'm like, the real conspiracy is that they're anti-woke and they hate the body positivity movement, so they're like, how do we make Americans thin?
lydia smith
That makes sense.
tim pool
Take away all their money, take away all their jobs, shut down all the restaurants.
You can only order things on Amazon.
And then all of a sudden you're going to end up with a whole bunch of really thin people.
Actually, you know, I know it's just being silly, but think about what might actually happen in a year.
They're saying the COVID lockdown is going to last until quarter two or quarter three of next year.
What do you think happens?
You think a lot of these, you know, more abundantly obese people become just like thin?
lydia smith
Corbidly.
tim pool
No, I said more abundantly on purpose.
ian crossland
They're going to be on food stamps and buying Pepsi.
tim pool
More abundantly obese means you are literally about to die from obesity.
unidentified
All right, all right, all right.
ian crossland
They'll become more sedentary and they'll keep buying crap food with food stamps and just get sickly and fat.
tim pool
Yeah, but they're not gonna have jobs or money, so they're like gonna slowly start withering away.
ryan long
Well, even with, yeah, with the lack, with COVID sort of taking away people's jobs, it goes one way or the other.
Same with Trump, you know, whether he's gone or whatever, he's not gone.
It's like with that, when you take that stuff away, people either have to kind of be like, all right, let me actually get my life together now.
Or they double down on like, okay, well, I don't have a job and I don't have food.
I guess I can double down on my activism.
Because activism has been in like, for the last four or five years, it's been, you know, this stuff's been an excuse for a lot of people to not have to do anything.
Like, oh, I couldn't, you know, write that extra book.
I had to yell at the cops.
I couldn't.
Well, I would love to have taken that school course, but I did something better.
I argued on Facebook for 45 minutes.
And they go, that must be nice for you to not have to do that, but I had no choice.
You know, I had no choice, right?
tim pool
It's a perfect excuse for being lazy.
ryan long
I mean, it's a huge excuse, right?
Activism used to be kind of hard.
lydia smith
Right.
You used to have to actually go out and do things.
tim pool
You used to get arrested and charged with crimes.
Now the DA's cut you loose and you're like, back to it.
lydia smith
It's so easy.
ryan long
Remember 10 years ago when you'd see some white chick go to Africa and build a school and you'd be like, oh, people kind of rolled their eyes at that?
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan long
She did 10 times more.
lydia smith
Seriously.
unidentified
10?
Dude, that person who got on a plane and now- She did 50 times more.
ryan long
No, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
I don't know how you- it's a multiplier effect because I don't know how you do this.
When the far left activism is a net negative, They're not making things, they're destroying things.
ryan long
But I was saying ten times the energy put in, but you're right.
tim pool
It's negative 100%.
ryan long
Well, none of them do anything, but yeah.
lydia smith
That's true, that's true too.
ryan long
I mean, but the thing is, you used to have to go.
You'd go to Africa, you'd find a kid, you'd take your picture.
Now you just find some guy in Brooklyn and you're like, look, this guy isn't even a CEO.
It's the whole thing now.
I think a lot of people are going to have to figure out, you know, what their life looks like post Trump and, you know, post COVID.
If you're like, if you're for the, you know, if you're with the government on COVID, you're with the, you know, government to corporations on, you know, what the, how people should treat each other.
tim pool
It's like, what is... I think, I think post Trump, there's going to be a lot of Trumpism.
That's already what they're saying.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So I'm seeing like, uh, somebody tweeted, you know, Trump's lawsuits, not really arguing fraud or whatever.
And then someone responded, they're just trying to keep Trump-ism going.
And I'm like, Trump-ism?
ian crossland
These Trump-ists.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Trump-ists.
They actually say Trump-its.
ryan long
Yeah.
unidentified
Like Trump-et.
ryan long
What do you think?
Do you think that like Trump-ism is a little bit of a religion?
tim pool
There's no such thing as Trump-ism.
unidentified
No, no, no.
ryan long
I'm saying, but like, you could probably agree that the whole woke thing became a religion for some people.
tim pool
It is a religion for sure.
Non-theistic religion.
Absolutely.
ryan long
I would say that for some people, Donald Trump is somewhat of a religion.
tim pool
Yeah, but cult of personality.
Trump's not, you know, I think a lot of people... He doesn't have as many tenants.
Yeah, I think a lot of the people who support Trump are kind of just regular people who will roll their eyes.
ryan long
You know what?
I like Kurt Metzger, he said this because he's like a Jehovah's Witness, and he says, the difference between the real religions and the fake religions is, or not the real religions and the bad religions, is you actually have to do their thing.
Like with Christian and Catholic.
You kind of don't have to do it, right?
With Trump, he's like, you don't really have to do my things.
But if you're a part of the woke thing, it's like, no, you kind of have to do the things.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Well, it's not even that.
If you're part of the woke religion, I imagine being woke and showing up to... You know what?
Have you ever seen Silent Hill, that movie?
It's a video game, but you've seen a part of it a few weeks ago.
So there's a part where she goes down into this shaft and there's like, it's a horror movie, right?
And there's a bunch of nurses and they're like very busty and attractive, but their faces are all bandaged up and they're like all twisted and they have knives.
And if you make a single noise, they start swinging wildly with the knives.
I imagine that what it's like being woke.
It's like you're in there with them and you're like sweating and you're like, if I say one wrong thing, All of these women are just going to start swinging knives at me and like slashing throats.
lydia smith
100% accurate.
tim pool
It's exactly what it's like.
ryan long
It is a little bit like that.
You know what?
And that kind of like aggression, I know I'm kind of making weird analogies here, but a lot of it is just like city chick stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan long
Because if you think about it, a lot of what's happening is, you know, you have a group of like chicks or whatever, and they'll be like, you know, telling people what they should want.
Like, this is what you should think's hot.
This is what you should want in a woman.
unidentified
Yes.
ryan long
And you go, these are a little bit like hot girl demands.
And you have not hot chicks telling them.
lydia smith
Yeah, what's cool?
ryan long
What's going on with that?
It's like a guy that's poor being like, this is what you should like, and a guy and he's like living on the street and he's never had a job and he's smoking weed on your couch.
tim pool
Have you heard of life coaching?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So many of these life coaches are like not particularly successful people.
ryan long
Oh, therapists are all depressed.
tim pool
Trying to tell you what you should be doing.
But I think the wokeness is quite literally social pressures from uh... youngs like millennial city i i
want to young is now in the thirties
city women like you said telling people what they should like and the guys who
think that by agreeing with whatever they say they'll get laid
so you've got sixty eight percent of millennial women are democrat
and then men are actually millennial men are but you know evenly split between
democrat republican I'm
I'm fairly confident, you know, a lot of these like male feminists, they think they're going to get laid.
Like they think just agreeing with these women, I'm not saying literally every single one, but there's a lot of them.
And I say that specifically because there are a lot, you know, the meme reset the clock.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
There's a lot of these male feminists who are actually abusers and assault these women.
They're entering these spaces pretending to be woke because they're predators looking for... And then there's some bad ones too.
Yeah, those guys are pretty bad.
Oh, there are substantially worse ones.
ryan long
I kind of, just to interrupt from the last point, it's kind of weird.
I was thinking about this when people, a lot of people say, you know, especially with Gen Z, like Gen Z is more conservative, right?
And it's, and it's so, yeah, but it's, the truth is like those words just got changed.
You go, is it really the Gen Z is more conservative or is it that they're like, well, I know I'm not that.
You know, so I think a lot of these words got changed and, you know, one of the things is more authoritarian.
But if you actually look at what's being considered conservative, it's just that they've changed all the lines and all the definitions.
tim pool
So Gen Z is only a little bit more conservative in some areas, but they're very much on par with millennials.
Gen Z is slightly more conservative in some areas than Millennials, but for the most part, it's pretty much the same.
But that's serious, because every generation has been way more progressive than the last, except for Gen Z. Gen Z's kind of like, sort of shifted a little bit in either direction.
And I think it's because the left doesn't have kids, and the right does.
So I talked about this before, that in the 2000s, early 2000s, they said, Conservative families are having an average 2.01 kids per family, and liberals are having 1.7.
And so, add 20 years, you have slightly more conservative Gen Z than you have of liberal.
ryan long
Well, that accounts for some of it, but there's also a ton of immigrants and stuff like that.
lydia smith
That's true.
ryan long
They would even that out to some degree.
But I think it's, you know, what makes someone say whether they're conservative or liberal.
I think a lot of these... See, politics is the easy way to look at it.
It's kind of like the UFC.
You know with sports, right?
If you're like, oh, I'm going to get into sports.
If you're a girl that wants to get into something and you want to get into politics, it's so easy.
You just pick a team.
And you go, I'm this, and you don't have to really do anything, right?
So it's an easy thing to get involved with.
Like UFC, if you're going to basketball or baseball, you need to know the stats.
Whereas a lot of people can just pick a thing.
So everything gets looked at through that lens.
But I think more so, especially when you're looking at kids and stuff like that, a lot of it is a masculine versus feminine dynamic masquerading as a left-right dynamic.
tim pool
Sounds like something Jordan Peterson would say.
ryan long
Really?
Well, yeah.
Jordan Peterson is giving Joe Biden a run for his money and who has the better hair plugs?
Those guys both look like Mr. Burns and now they have like afros.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, we gotta take it.
ryan long
But yeah, so, do you know what I mean?
Like, there is, there's so much, all of this stuff where it's like, when you look at, like, freedom, safety, and all of the things that are manifesting themselves as left, right.
unidentified
Right.
ryan long
It's all male, female stuff.
tim pool
Well, that's why it's interesting that 68%, and this is from, I think, a year or so ago from Pew Research, 68% of millennial women are Democrats.
And then men are evenly split, like I said, probably because some guys are just, you know, not really Democrats, they're just predators, or they're just, you know, going after these women.
No, for sure, though.
ian crossland
That weird white knight, like, phenomenon?
Yeah, it's like, they trust in God, but God is that women taking over.
And it's almost like it's vague.
It's like, if I give my power to women, then everything's gonna be alright.
tim pool
It's like, I think you're just talking about simps.
ian crossland
I would also call them simps.
tim pool
Yeah, they're just guys who are like, I will give you whatever you want, and that'll work for me.
ian crossland
I'm with her.
I don't know anything about her, but she's better than him.
ryan long
Well, some people aren't meant to stray from the pack, right?
For them it was...
you know, here's what the rules are and then they'll go, okay, I'll take that. I don't want
to be stepping out of line and this is what they're told to do. So I think a lot of people
just, and there's people in that, that, you know, that there's people on all sides that believe what
they say. It's not like everyone's there, but I think a lot of people that are feeling like
alienated from whatever being on a different side, it's because like, you know, everyone's like,
oh, we need to be more safe.
And everyone's feeling, you know, this is what men are.
And they go, what?
And it's just like all this stuff they're being told about what like a man is or what.
I was talking to, you know, like a chick when she, girls will say, for example, like, you know, men need to be more emotional.
And obviously, like girls don't really want that.
Dude, when you start, go cry a bunch in front of your girl.
See how much she likes that.
You see how quickly she has a new guy.
But they go.
I was talking about this a bit ago.
They go, every guy, like, they need to be more in touch with their feelings.
They don't talk with their friends enough about emotions.
And you go, no, no, no.
When I hang out with my friends, I get to not talk about my emotions.
Because they think about it like themselves.
Like, what do I get from my friends?
And you go, no, no, no.
I might, I don't want to go talk to my friends.
It's more importantly, I don't want to hear about my five, five friends problems.
unidentified
Exactly.
ryan long
This is like when I get to not do that stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, we're chillin'.
Look, I deal with my own problems.
I go to work.
Oh, that's frustrating.
Oh, I stubbed my toe.
And then you go hang out with your friends.
ryan long
Fall down the half pipe.
tim pool
Fall down the half pipe, stretch your wrist open.
And then when you hang out with your friends, it's like, not work, not stress.
lydia smith
It's none of that.
tim pool
Chill out.
ryan long
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't want to, you know, I don't want to give a list of my problems.
I don't want, you know, my chick is right.
Oh, like you and your friends, you like never talk about stuff.
I go, that's why we're friends for like so long.
You know, every time I hung out is, you know.
tim pool
One of Joe Biden's biggest gains of demographics is unmarried women.
lydia smith
That's weird.
ryan long
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Because I heard that Donald Trump made gains with white women, like white married women.
ryan long
I just hear Donald Trump's always making gains!
lydia smith
That's right, those gains!
tim pool
What, like eating Big Macs?
ryan long
No, he has his jack, dude.
lydia smith
That's true.
ryan long
Shredding!
tim pool
Well, I love how the Trump supporters draw him.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
It's like, dude, you can really see the two realities in like a Ben Garrison comic where
Trump is like super ripped and smiling and like Nancy Pelosi's head's on like a donkey
or something.
And then you look at like the Resistance comics and Trump is like hunched over with tiny hands
and it's like both sides are really, really like living in this world.
To be fair, though, Trump is not this pathetic, sad, tiny hand.
That's way over the top.
ryan long
I think he has two dicks, personally.
tim pool
He's certainly not super ripped, but the crazy thing to me is that they try and simultaneously have this narrative about Trump being this really awful, nasty guy, but also how he's really pathetic and whiny and crybaby and they show babies.
This is a guy who called Rose O'Donnell a fat pig on TV.
I'm not saying he's a good person.
I'm just saying he's not weak.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, they love to go at it like that.
ryan long
I mean, that goes back to the, you know, no problem having, you know, two different, two completely different points of view.
It's kind of, we were talking about this earlier, but they were killing Scott Adams because he was saying, yeah, in the, when they did the Million March or whatever, people were like, oh, there was no one there.
People were like, here's a bunch of pitchers.
And they're like, look at this guy defending Trump.
And it was like, What is your point even?
Is your point that he doesn't have any followers and people are leaving him and no one likes him?
Or is your point that he has tons of followers?
He's a fascist.
And what is even one of those better than the other?
It was just like, oh, someone said something about Trump and it wasn't negative enough the way that I interpreted it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
It's not even about, is the statement negative?
Does it sound negative?
ryan long
Yeah!
tim pool
Dude, Donald Trump, have you seen how, like, how ripped he is?
What's up with that?
unidentified
Oh my god.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeez.
tim pool
Just say anything about him, but make it sound bad and they'll be like, that's good, that's okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, I saw Donald Trump.
It was awful.
He was giving children presents at Christmas.
What was he thinking?
ryan long
Yeah, they hear a black chick being like, Donald Trump is stupid.
And they're like, I don't know what to think about this.
Is that positive or negative?
tim pool
But yeah, it's quite literally say something and be opposed to him, even if it's wrong.
This is the craziest thing, because now what they're doing on Twitter is they're like, in Donald Trump's latest lawsuit, he says there's no fraud.
And then all of them are like, oh, Trump's, you know, everything he said about voter fraud, disproven.
And I'm just like, oh, this is one lawsuit.
Out of a litany and this one lawsuit they're arguing against what they're calling Improper votes, and then they were like what's your point?
Why are you defending Donald Trump?
It's like do you want to just say wrong things because if you want to play that game?
I'll just be like Donald Trump threw a puppy off a bridge Yeah, I join in is that all I got to do is make something up and just claim.
It's bad about Trump.
Yeah, Trump Trump hates Trump Cats!
lydia smith
I figured it out, okay?
I figured it out, okay?
They made Trump so binary that now they have no choice but to be like, he's black or he's white.
ryan long
Donald Trump is so binary though.
lydia smith
Exactly, I know, right?
tim pool
That sounds like a woke insult.
ryan long
He's the least non-binary person in the history of the world.
tim pool
Right, oh my gosh, it's true.
It quite literally is make up anything about Trump and make it seem bad.
And it's really funny when people will say something about Trump that doesn't sound bad
enough and then they regret it like uh oh.
Like they'll tweet something that is supposed to be negative but could be interpreted as
positive and they're like oops.
You can't say anything as long as you just say.
ryan long
Like, look at Trump drink 12 beers and people are going to be like, yo, pretty bass, Trump.
Trump got chugged a 12-pack?
tim pool
Trump got two scoops of ice cream.
I'm not sure I'm supposed to feel about that.
Is it a bad thing?
Yes, it's bad!
Okay, now I agree with you.
ryan long
But you know how much of a lies it is?
Because, you know, with like, especially with the Hollywood people, I don't know if you saw, but so Chris Pratt, basically, kind of people were coming up because, you know, they've been saying like, who, you know, well, let's round up the Trump supporters, all this sort of stuff, right?
And then Chris Pratt, I guess he's, he like voted Trump or whatever, right?
So they made all these articles, like people that weren't in Hollywood.
And then all these people in Hollywood who have been, you know, bounding the drum, doing the Grammy speeches came out and they go, Oh, we know, we know Chris Pratt.
He's like a really good guy and this and that.
And they go, Okay, so your friends are allowed to like Trump?
unidentified
So what?
ryan long
It's everyone else, like anyone else, if they like Trump, they're in trouble, but your friends are allowed to do it?
It's like, nah, you guys don't care.
tim pool
All the Marvel people came out defending him?
ryan long
Yeah, whereas people are like, go cancel your parents.
And I agree, your friends should be able to like whatever politician they like and you should be friends with, but I go, you can't kind of have it both ways.
You can't yell at people and like participate in a system of telling people they're, you know, should cancel their parents and then at the same time, go back and be like, Well, except for Tom.
He's cool.
tim pool
He likes Trump.
ryan long
And you know what my favorite one about him is, but they do this all the time.
They go, and I'm not like religious or anything, but with him, they go, he participated in a hate group and he's parts of these hate groups.
And you look, it's just a church.
unidentified
Now here's the bigger issue.
tim pool
Well, first, let me ask you this.
Do you think Trump's going to find a way to stay in the presidency?
ryan long
I mean, I think the odds are probably like what we were talking about before when you look because biggest betting odds, a lot of people will say to me, they go 80% like he's got, he's coming back.
Like you don't even know.
And I go, if that's the case, why don't you mortgage your house and bet it?
Cause you've got the inside scoop and you'll make a million dollars.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
You obviously know.
ryan long
Right.
So, I mean, I think it's probably close to what those odds are.
I mean, it would be very difficult to overturn three things.
ian crossland
I think that's a good bet.
ryan long
Those are the odds based on what people think.
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
Those are the only odds we have, but yeah, I agree.
ryan long
That doesn't mean anything, it just means that there's 10% of people.
tim pool
We have election betting odds that have Trump at 10.5% to be the next president.
lydia smith
That's higher than I would have thought.
tim pool
And Predict It has him at 13 cents a share to win the Electoral College.
ian crossland
That's a money bet, man.
tim pool
But winning the Electoral College, that's not him becoming the president.
He could become president a lot of ways.
Winning the Electoral College means overturning these states and then Trump gaining those votes from Biden.
ian crossland
Oh, so there's less of a chance of that.
tim pool
Way less of a chance.
ryan long
Yeah, Trump could become president through, like... The lights go off and then he comes out and DDT's Joe Biden.
lydia smith
Right, right, right.
ryan long
Off a ladder.
I know I've seen that happen before.
tim pool
It could be something happens to Joe Biden, maybe.
It could be a contingent election where the House delegations pick him.
That's not through the Electoral College.
And they're saying 13 cents a share.
So here's what I'm telling people.
If you really think they're going to release the Kraken, and they've got all this evidence, and it's coming, and Trump's going to win, it's like, you just said it.
Mortgage your house, put all that money down, right?
ryan long
If you really believe it.
tim pool
I don't actually think people should do that, just FYI.
ryan long
Well, that's because deep down you probably think the odds are going to be low.
tim pool
They're going to lose their house!
Yeah, they're going to lose their...
So, look, I'll tell you this.
I remember in 2016 when people were like, bet on Trump.
I'm gonna bet on Trump.
And the odds were around the same thing.
I know people who put down a hundred bucks because it was a value bet.
Meaning, if I lose a hundred bucks, whatever, I could win a thousand.
But that also, this idea that you're gonna lose a hundred bucks because you might win a thousand, it means you think you might win.
It means you think Trump could do it.
If someone came to you and said, here's a bet.
100% guarantee you lose all your money.
But, If you do win, which you can't, you'll get a thousand bucks.
People are gonna be like, no, what?
What do you mean?
ryan long
Right.
tim pool
So they actually do think Trump's gonna win.
ryan long
But also, if you bet a hundred bucks, like, I'll put a hundred to five hundred dollars down just straight up because it's funny.
But you're not going to, I'm not going to drop 500 bucks.
I did on this election.
I bet 500 on Trump.
And I was like, I didn't think, well, you didn't lose it yet.
unidentified
Right.
ryan long
I just, I just thought it'd be funny.
Cause I'm like, I knew I was doing all these like election shows that night.
And I go, if people are melting down and I just want a thousand bucks, I'm like, that's real.
Yeah.
It would be hilarious, which almost happened.
But then I was just straight up.
Cause I thought it was funny.
Like I didn't care either way.
tim pool
What if, you know, on election night 2016, we had the slow motion breakdown as the states started coming in one by one for Trump, Trump's winning, and then the left slowly started losing their mind more and more.
It's like that famous Young Turks video where he's like, we can still do it if we get Wisconsin.
And it's like, Wisconsin, Trump goes, God dammit!
It's like, what if we're seeing that, but like times 100?
Where, and I don't even, I do not think the odds of this happening are 10%.
I think it's like .001%, like really slim, but could you imagine what it would be like if they're all dancing in the street and stomping on Cheetos bags and they're, celebrate, pull off their masks and chugging champagne and handing it to each other, and then, a week later, One of the states is refusing to certify.
ryan long
The sky just turns orange.
tim pool
But like, I'm imagining, you know, so we're still about a month out from the Electoral College certification.
A lot can happen.
So what happens like next week, there's some suit and it's like Philadelphia flips, you know, from some, you know, Giuliani's suit wins.
And then the left goes, OK, well, I mean, Joe Biden still won.
We're celebrating good times, you know, and then a week and a half later and then it's like Arizona and then Trump somehow pulls it off and it's this month long.
It was one day in 2016.
It's a one month long slow drawn out process of Trump flipping things and winning.
ryan long
I think a lot of these people would be honestly happy about it.
tim pool
Totally.
ryan long
You know, there's a whole industry, you know, built around this stuff.
When I was, even the day that he won, like, you know that A lot of people in these activist organizations were that night looking at their baton and having a will-I-won't-die moment.
You know what I mean?
It's just one day.
Jeff Zucker.
Trump might win, so you say, and there's a chance they got the Molotov cocktail.
They can't bring themselves to throw out the Molotov cocktail because it just might happen.
tim pool
Jeff Zucker's over at CNN and he goes, what have I done?
He's gonna lose all his money.
Dude, they're gonna sell CNN.
I heard they're gonna do it to Teletoon.
ryan long
That's what I heard.
A Canadian cartoon network.
tim pool
People are saying Trump might buy it, but I think that's just wishful thinking.
Could you imagine how hilarious it would be if Trump buys CNN?
ryan long
They'd block that sale, no?
A spite sale.
tim pool
Yeah, they wouldn't let it happen.
But listen, listen.
So AT&T is like a $150 billion...
A spite sale.
ryan long
Well, no, they're in the hole.
tim pool
AT&T doesn't care about this stuff.
These massive corporations are like, dude, give me money.
They're not, I'm sure, deep down they're like, I don't care.
And then Trump bought CNN.
ryan long
I hope Breitbart rises to the Capitol to buy CNN.
tim pool
Right?
No, no, no, here's the problem.
CNN is worth nothing now.
That's why they need to sell it.
CNN was going down the tubes a long time ago, and then Trump showed up.
And they started blasting Trump rallies on TV non-stop, and it helped him get elected.
But they were making money off of it!
Their ratings were going up by showing Trump.
It's what the people wanted.
They wanted the orange man.
ryan long
Hey dude, I've been agreeing with you on this.
We've been talking about this for a while, but I'm like, dude, when Trump got voted out of office, a lot of people's entire comedy career just got voted out of office.
unidentified
Yup.
ryan long
Yup.
unidentified
It's crazy.
tim pool
So you did a bit, you had that sketch where it's like a newsroom on election night.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And they all cheer like, yeah, Biden, Harris.
And then it's like a month later and they're all sweating and like, what do we write about?
There's nothing to write about.
ryan long
It's over.
And I was watching, I went to Union Square the day after.
So they had their big party in Brooklyn and everyone was happy.
I went, it was pretty fun.
tim pool
Did you get to stop by the Samositos?
ryan long
I got to stop by the Samositos.
No, I was with a bunch of friends and we kept doing jokes to each other.
I would yell, me and Danny were like, kind of weird you being here after voting for Trump, no?
unidentified
We would say that loudly in front of all the Brooklyn people.
ryan long
I kept saying, I kept trying to start a locker up chant and then blame it on Danny.
tim pool
Oh my gosh!
Were you actually yelling lockers up?
ryan long
Yeah, dude!
tim pool
Nobody would join in?
ryan long
No, obviously not!
But I was also like, I'd run out of the way and pretend it was, I was just kidding around.
But so the next day, after everyone, you know, had their fun, I went to the, I was just filming in Union Square the next day, and this is where they protest.
They've been doing a protest against Trump every Saturday for the last eight months.
A impeachment, you know, like get him out of the office, right?
So I go and like mess with them a lot of times, but The day after, the day after he won, they were all still there and they were like, this is just the beginning!
Joe Biden is still complicit in Islamophobia, transphobia, white supremacy, like they didn't even take the day off.
tim pool
They didn't even take one day off.
It's not going to work.
ryan long
So they were right back in it.
But you could tell the enthusiasm, everyone walking by was like, All right, dude, like it's over. We don't need Trump. Yeah,
tim pool
the media companies need him.
There there is going to be right now. They're probably all sitting down doing some kind of like
prayer circle saying like, Trump win. And then they're like, no one can know we want Trump to
win. But if he doesn't win, we're all going to lose our job.
ryan long
There's been some flailing articles, you know, Oh, do we got one? We got one. Three pointers
from the amazing the other three point line turned around backwards. It out. Truly amazing. If you
tim pool
want to talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel so hard, they're pulling out wood
chips. I give you the Daily Mail.
Ivanka Trump, quote, blamed a fart on her classmate when she was a bratty teenager.
ryan long
To be fair, she did do that to me and I needed to write that article to get something off my chest.
lydia smith
Ryan, it's all your fault.
tim pool
This is not an exaggeration.
They actually wrote an article about Ivanka Trump 23 years ago or something farting and then saying it was you.
Like that's the news?
lydia smith
Okay, it is the Daily Mail.
Okay, we gotta give them a little benefit of the doubt because it is the Daily Mail.
tim pool
It's not just the Daily Mail.
lydia smith
Who is it?
tim pool
It's a bunch of other outlets who all wrote the same thing.
ryan long
The New York Times wrote an article yesterday I'm not even kidding.
tim pool
It was actually not the Daily Mail that initially wrote this story, okay?
We got it from yesterday, Daily News.
Former Ivanka Trump BFF remembers a fart-blaming elitist with a creepy dad.
ryan long
New York Times wrote an article that said in college Trump took an upper-decker.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, are you serious?
Oh my gosh, Ryan.
tim pool
Do people know what an upper-decker is?
ryan long
Trump took an upper-decker in the girls' bathroom.
And it was a school he didn't even go to.
lydia smith
I knew it.
ryan long
Wow, that's amazing.
tim pool
Daily News.
ryan long
What is it?
lydia smith
Oh no.
ryan long
When you take the top off the toilet, the lid off the toilet.
tim pool
And you sit on top of it, so that when they flush... I got it.
Upper Decker.
lydia smith
Ian's like, I got it.
tim pool
We call it top shelf in it.
ryan long
Right.
tim pool
Back in Chicago, that was like, you know, top shelf.
Like liquor, you know what I mean?
ryan long
Yeah, top shelf's pretty nice.
ian crossland
I feel like I'm gonna vomit.
tim pool
Well this is what college age people do for some reason.
I was just joking.
ryan long
What's the thing when you... Oh yeah, Ivanka Trump Dutch oven someone.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
This is a preview of what's to come.
ryan long
Baron Trump when he was three years old Dutch oven Joe Biden's wife.
tim pool
We are in the golden period right now.
Probably You should all, if you like excitement, you should be cherishing every moment of this period now until January 20th.
I don't know what's going to happen after January 20th.
Maybe it's Trump, maybe it's not.
If it's not Trump, I don't think it's all going to go back to normal, like what normal is supposed to be.
Things have been crazy since before 2016 and they're getting crazier and crazier, so I imagine they'll be getting a bit crazy.
But right now, Donald Trump, according to the mainstream media, is out.
So what do they write about?
It's it.
You did it, guys.
What's the protest?
unidentified
So they have no choice.
tim pool
They still have to write about Trump because it's that golden goose, but they are squeezing, they're strangling the goose, shaking it as hard as possible to get an egg out.
And little golden dingleberries are falling out, and they're getting the story like Ivanka Trump farting, and this is where they have to write about Trump somehow, and the only thing they could find is this.
After Trump is gone, they're going to be writing stories about Trump.
And it's going to be even worse.
ryan long
Yeah, it's going to be darker.
Trump didn't lock himself in the White House, but he almost did!
unidentified
Yeah, he did.
lydia smith
He thought about it.
tim pool
What they're going to do, they're going to be like, it's now been one month since Donald
Trump has left the White House.
Here's what things would be like if he didn't.
No joke.
No joke.
I bet you they'll write that article.
ryan long
Yeah.
Well, that's what I predicted.
I was saying in the new articles, like Kamala Harris looked nice.
You know, stuff like that.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's so boring.
tim pool
Reminds me of the Family Guy joke where the news is like, you know, a plane crashed into a school.
Like, here's what it would have been like if another, like, the plane didn't crash into a school, but here's what it would have looked like if it did!
And then they show it anyway because, like, they need something to talk about.
lydia smith
So, do you remember when Caitlin Collins was like, Trump has been silent for three days?
And I was like, is this news?
Sorry, I missed it.
ryan long
Yeah.
lydia smith
What the heck?
What the heck's going on?
ryan long
They're obsessed!
lydia smith
He didn't say anything.
ryan long
Well, I've even noticed a difference in, like, when I make the... because the problem is, like, you know, these places had a boogeyman, and a lot of them were willing to be unprofitable.
I mean, these ones we're talking about, they revived them.
But there were some places, you know, like, you know, corporations that were still willing to, like, take the hit and almost go unprofitable.
unidentified
Yeah, well, go bro.
ryan long
And it's a little harder to do that without the boogeyman.
I've even noticed with my videos, you know, if people would, before, like, originally when you laugh at something, you'd be like, is this funny?
Where now you go, is it on the right side?
Okay, now I can decide whether to laugh or not.
tim pool
I don't do that.
ryan long
I laugh.
Yeah, I don't think most people do that, but a lot of people do.
tim pool
I've got a picture downstairs of Donald Trump, and he's like, he's like a little tiny person.
ryan long
Dude.
tim pool
And he's like, he's got his hands behind his back.
It's from George Alexopoulos.
It's a comic, and they're like, Mr. Trump, are you ready to win tonight's debate?
And then they lift him up, and he's really small, and they put him into a mech suit, and steam comes out, and then he straightens his tie, and then he goes bigly.
You can make fun of Trump if you're actually making fun of him.
Drawing a fat, sad Trump with tiny hands is not a joke.
It's just a tribal signal.
It's like, hey, I'm like you, look, the thing.
You make an actual funny joke about Trump, they love it.
Like, Trump makes fun of himself.
And even Trump supporters love it when he's self-deprecating, because he owns it.
You know what I mean?
On the left, it's... Am I on the right side?
Is the joke allowed?
ryan long
Well, there's two parts of it.
Like, for the first part, like I said, I've noticed that people have lost that a little bit.
They'll just laugh first, because they're like... It's a little... Because they feel like they won, though.
No, but some people that feel like they've won now that Trump's gone, I'm noticing them sort of being like, Oh, I can just laugh.
I can laugh again.
Like they almost feel like that.
But the second part, the difference between like the right and the left humor is when you talk about, you know, things that were, you know, crazy jokes that when they talk about like even censorship, like crazy jokes on the right, crazy jokes on the left, things that you're like not okay with.
The difference is when you're talking about the right, it's like a guy yelling it on bit shoot for like 40 people to hear.
When it's on the left, it's like this is Netflix special.
Yeah, or like, you know, dove soap or whatever, right?
So I think that's why one's a little more aggressive.
tim pool
Institutional power versus some random guy.
And you know what I think, too?
What we're seeing with Trump, I think Trump sort of jumped in front of everybody as the bolt was being fired, in a figurative sense.
Because the media's been going after small, random internet people for a really, really long time.
So it's like some random guy on BitChute will be like, here's my rant.
And they're going to be like, Bitch Shoot is hosting extremists.
They should be shut down.
And it's like, dude, the guy's got like 40 views.
Leave him alone.
ryan long
Where else is he going to go?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But then they use institutional power.
And it's basically like they made a demand.
Hey, this is racist.
And then everyone said, OK, you got it.
Well, that's racist, too.
You got it.
And they just keep going.
And it's like they're just literally hammering whatever they can find, any tiny smidgen of offense.
So they're chasing it to the darkest corners of the web and then screaming about it at the top of their lungs.
ryan long
Yeah, which is how you get rid of racism.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's how you do it.
tim pool
That's exactly the degree.
ryan long
I mean, honestly, when you put the bad kids all in one class, that usually sorts it out.
lydia smith
Sorts it right out.
tim pool
They probably think that.
That they're chasing it down and destroying it.
And it's like...
ryan long
They just don't want to hear it.
It's like, they think a lot of these people feel like it was war, right?
And if you think about that and you're like at war, and imagine I'm there like trying
to make jokes about our general, like, we're about to go kill these people.
And I'm like, general's a little looking a little sleepy today, right?
And everyone's like, dude, we're about to go, like, try to kill these people, like, not the time.
And I'm like, yeah, but like, check it out, like, bad pants.
And no one wants to hear any jokes, right?
unidentified
Right.
ryan long
But if I was to be like, look at their general, like, I can barely speak, everyone would be like, ah!
tim pool
You just described what Michael Malice was explaining the other day on the show about the Soviet Union, where he said that, you know, some American was explaining you could go into the Oval Office, pound on Reagan's desk, and say, I think Reagan is doing a terrible job.
And then the Soviet guy was like, oh, you can do the same thing in the Soviet Union.
You go to the Red Square, you hang at the table, I think Ronald Reagan is doing a terrible job.
Is it kind of weird that we're comparing the Soviet Union to these people or these people to the Soviet Union?
ryan long
No, yeah.
tim pool
It's not weird at all.
It's scary.
ryan long
It all like, yeah, and it all boils down to kind of the, you know, what you think the purpose of comedy or what, but they want to collect all these properties, right?
It's like, we need to collect music.
And I think it was music's a little easier of a sell.
Because if you're a singer and they go, okay, you can't sing about this and you go, Whatever, the music, the lyrics are one part of it, but really it's like my songs are still the same and I can kind of be the same.
tim pool
Ba with da ba and um ba.
I'm pretty sure they'll figure it out.
ryan long
Do you know what I mean?
But with comedy, unfortunately, like you're speaking, so I think comedy gave itself up a little harder, so they had a harder time collecting that property, where they collected the universities, they collected music, they collected advertising, and I think comedy was a little harder for them to scoop up, which is why it became such a contentious issue.
tim pool
Comedy is one of the most powerful tools in opposing authoritarianism.
That's why they hate it, and it's so hard for them to conquer.
If they want their lockdown or whatever, comedy is making fun of things all the time, and it depowers a lot of the stuff.
It takes power away, it ridicules, it makes it seem weaker, in a sense.
That's why making fun of things works.
If you have a top-down authoritarian culture, What's the one thing everyone can get if you tell a joke?
So, like, you're in, you know, the Soviet Union, and everyone has a problem with hot water, and you make a joke about hot water because it's relatable to everybody and they all laugh, they get mad at you because they're like, you're criticizing us and the authority in the system.
I don't see how they're gonna be able to get through, you know, like this wokeness.
I don't see how it gets past the Constitution.
ryan long
Well, it doesn't, but the demands on certain levels of speech are too debilitating, like I said.
Like, there's certain things you go, hey, if you're gonna run a company, you run ads, you gotta say this, and they go, okay, whatever, it doesn't really change us fundamentally, we're selling t-shirts or whatever.
But if you say this about comedy, which is essentially noticing trends or, you know, noticing sociological, you know, let's say I noticed that one group does this and one group does this and they go, yeah, but you're not allowed to do that anymore.
So it's like the demands on, you know, speech oriented fields, like what you do of talking four hours a day or whatever.
Like, all these demands are, like, debilitating to what you're doing, so that's why it's, like, harder for them to collect those, which is why those are always the linchpins that they try to take care of, right?
Whenever, like, authoritarianism comes down, it's, like, always first we want to get rid of, like, jokes about the wrong things, and we want to get rid of observations about the wrong things.
tim pool
Yep.
They're trying, but I don't know if it can work.
ryan long
You want to make it illegal to notice things?
tim pool
No, but for real.
Because you can do comedy without even, like, you can deliver a comedy without acting or, you know, doing a bit in a sense.
When you think about a joke, it's like someone is telling you a joke you know they are.
You can literally make people laugh by just talking about normal things.
And so you can have an idea, so then they need to control the ideas themselves.
And that's probably a part of what cancel culture is.
It's like psychological terrorism.
We'll destroy your life if you step on the wrong twig.
That's why I was saying, it's like the Silent Hill nurses.
As soon as you make a noise, they just go wild and start swinging like crazy.
Who would want to be in with these people?
Why would you want to be in these universities?
It's like you're walking down the hallway and then you're like sweating and you're looking around and then you step
on a twig and you go Oh, geez, and then they all go and they're like jump out of
the walls. They're like latching on you like I Was leave. Oh, yeah, I don't want to be there. I'll just or
I'll purposely throw the twig, you know throw rocks Well that room so they all go you hit the nail on the head
ryan long
Like when you make the equations of how these operate there is like an equation that involves how not okay it is to say
Right. So that's a lot of times, you know, if you go you this is the thing you can't say
you just made it like super funny right?
It's like, they're also involved in the equation.
It's kind of like that idea of like... Like the fat gross thing joke you just made.
It's like the fat gross joke.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ryan long
All of your mom.
tim pool
Lizzo you said is a, what did you say she was a huge inspiration?
ryan long
The fat and gross woman.
Beautiful queen.
tim pool
See, you wouldn't normally say that until they made it about money.
ryan long
No, it wouldn't be funny, yeah.
tim pool
Right, now it's only funny because it's, like, pointing out... Naughty.
ryan long
I mean, for lack of a better word, yeah.
unidentified
Naughty.
ryan long
I mean, that makes it, like, it's adorable.
lydia smith
It's transgressive, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, transgressive.
Offensive.
lydia smith
That's the word.
ryan long
Well, I mean, listen, if you were in, let's say, Saudi Arabia, and they go, the one guy you can't talk about is this.
Like, if you were 10 years old, and you're like, you know, you make a little joke about that guy, that's the funniest person to make a joke about.
lydia smith
Well, yeah, of course.
tim pool
How is Family Guy still on the air?
I know that they've changed it.
They announced a couple years ago they wouldn't do gay jokes anymore.
So they've certainly changed it.
ryan long
They're not going to do jokes that are gay?
Both.
We have a system in the writing room.
If anyone says Oh, that's gay.
then we don't do it. But that's it. Yeah. No gay show. Dude, you watch the old episodes and I'm
tim pool
like, there was a joke. We were just watching a rerun and Peter said something about, you know,
they do the callback jokes. And he was like, that was like the time that I was helping the band Huey,
Lewis and the Jews. And then the guy, you know, the song, we don't need money.
And then the band members go, we quit and they walk out.
Like that joke is like, by today's standards, could you tell that joke?
Like that's cancelable, but it's on TV every day on numerous channels.
ryan long
Well, I think, you know, people always just make their changes.
Like a lot of people, kind of the same way that people are moving to different places right now with the COVID, people are making their changes.
And if you look around, you know, people like you have started their own thing and everyone's kind of been making moves.
Based on, you know, what they say you can and what you can't do, but I do all those jokes in comedy clubs.
You know, I say aggressive stuff, but there's that rung where YouTube's gonna be like, you're done.
tim pool
I guess the issue is, is the mob gonna notice you?
Because what'll happen is these clubs are probably gonna be like, hey man, look, I don't think there's anything wrong with your jokes, I just can't afford it if they come and start throwing stuff, you know what I mean?
What do you do?
You've performed at a bunch of clubs, yeah?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And you know the managers or the owners?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
You're cool with them?
What if one of them came to you and said, dude, I don't want to cancel you, but our phone's ringing off the hook.
They're threatening our patrons.
We can't have this, man.
What do we do?
ryan long
I think a lot of comedy club owners will stand up for that.
So I mean, that happened to Ari Shaffir and 150 people called when he did the Kobe joke and people went crazy.
And the people at the stand were like, they'd forward him, they'd be like, this is hilarious.
tim pool
Play him on the show!
ryan long
But what are you going to do?
It's a comedy club, it's just press.
But it's not that, it's like, they'll take your TV shows away, they'll take all that stuff.
But the comedy club is the one place it's hard for them to take except for a very few things.
tim pool
Yeah, the bigger issue I think is like people, I guess people might assume it's more nefarious in a lot of ways, like I'm sure even when it comes to TV shows getting cancelled or something like that, the dude who's like at the network isn't going like, how dare you say that, we're banning you, he's probably going like, I'm really sorry this is happening man, but...
Our sponsors are pulling out.
We have, we're losing money.
What, what do we do?
And then it's like, sorry, you're, you're, you're out because we're losing money.
ian crossland
McFarlane's part of the cult of Biden or anti-Trump.
So that's why they haven't knocked family guy.
tim pool
Really low information guy.
Like a lot of these people, but I'm not trying to be mean, but like something happened where in, there was a period where like Seth McFarlane knew stuff.
Like, you know, you know, he has a family guy joke where Stewie's running naked through the mall going, I just escaped from Kevin Spacey's basement.
And then he made a joke about Harvey Weinstein.
So people were always making the joke like, what did Seth MacFarlane know?
Because apparently he was supposed to be on a plane.
ryan long
He doesn't write the show himself.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
ryan long
Tim, let me tell you how the TV writing room happens.
tim pool
You walk in and say, my name's on the show, get to work, I'm going to grab lunch.
ryan long
Hey, can you guys work any harder, the Homer Simpson style?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seth MacFarlane, wasn't he supposed to be on a plane on 9-11?
And then he, like, didn't get on the plane or something?
ryan long
Yeah, I bought him the ticket, but then it didn't work out the way that I planned.
tim pool
No, but there's, like, a conspiracy about, like, what he actually knows and who he's connected to.
But I think there was a period where, you know, people like Bill Maher and people like Seth MacFarlane knew stuff.
They knew it was going on and they knew better than a lot of people.
And so they were able to make jokes that were topical and funny, and they could make good points.
And then at some point, they just totally gave up.
And now they just like... It's remarkable how behind the times Bill Maher is, for instance.
ryan long
I think everyone, you know, it's very hard to be 55 and like crazy on The Pulse.
So I think that's just the same way that you probably aren't on the same pulse about what the new music is.
I think culturally... Oh, the new music.
unidentified
It's this great song written by Tim Poole.
tim pool
It's the newest.
ryan long
It's the best.
I like the song, I like the video.
tim pool
Very cool.
ryan long
Support my upcoming artist, Tim Poole.
tim pool
I agree, I agree.
ryan long
His 14 plays on SoundCloud.
tim pool
It's not about what the new music is.
Because there's certainly new music that I would listen to that a 15-year-old wouldn't.
It's about, you might not know what Gen Z is doing with TikTok and the songs they like.
But that's just their community.
So you have yours.
When it comes to nudes, it's about being factually correct.
And I think, I'll tell you, there's this phenomenon that we see in skateboarding, that we've all, like, me and, like, all skateboarders know this.
Amateur skateboarders.
It doesn't mean, like, it doesn't mean what people think it means, it means quite literally you're paid to skate, you just don't have your own signature model.
Amateur skateboarders are insanely good, like some of the best skateboarders in the world.
Once they sign that pro contract, their skill level drops substantially.
You know why?
ryan long
Well, they don't stop, but it's like, if you want to grind like that, that's I mean, comedy is the exact same way.
Yeah.
tim pool
Once you get the show, you're comfortable.
ryan long
I mean, the truth is comedy sucks to do.
I mean, even in COVID.
So when you stop doing it and, you know, lived like three months of like, not really doing standup, you're like, Oh, this is way better.
Yeah.
I mean, why would anyone do this?
I don't know.
tim pool
It sounds like it would be fun.
ryan long
Well, I mean, you say that, but like the idea of, you know, leaving every night, writing two hours, then you do four shows a night.
It's the same as anything, right?
Training to be like a professional athlete sucks.
You know, if you want to be in the gym five hours a day and then doing wind sprints.
If you're like, oh, you need to take a month off that, you're like, yeah, no, this is better.
That sucks to do.
So it's a very hard life, but you want to be the best and it's not up to me.
It's irrelevant.
tim pool
I hear what you're saying because you're telling the same jokes like four times a day, right?
ian crossland
I was acting in Hollywood a while, but it was like up at 4 a.m.
You'd work till 6 p.m.
And you got paid so much money, but it was so exhausting.
tim pool
No, no, no, but what I mean is, if you're doing four shows a night, you're doing the same set for the most part, right?
ryan long
Well, I mean, I have a system.
I mean, I would write two hours in the morning, and then I would do my newest ten minutes then, and then I would chisel that down for the sex show, and then I would chisel it down, and then at the end of the show, I'd have maybe a new, like, twenty seconds, and then the next day I'd do the exact same thing.
It's repetitive.
tim pool
You do the same thing.
You've got to make it sound fresh.
Like you're just saying it.
ryan long
Depends.
Yeah, it's whatever.
It doesn't even matter.
It's the equivalent of you could say that like a runner or like a weightlifter is like doing the exact same thing, but you're kind of tweaking it and it's a little different.
I mean, it depends on how you look at, you know, training.
tim pool
You know what makes this job easy for me?
Even though I do like four hours of talking a day is that I'm saying something different.
ian crossland
Plus you're sitting at home.
You don't have to go to these junky, smoky, loud, dark bars in the cold.
tim pool
Staying at home is actually the worst part.
ian crossland
I disagree.
tim pool
What makes it the same and boring is that it's just literally here all day, every day.
What makes it doable is that it's a different story.
Something's changed.
Something's happening.
Here's what I think.
Here's what's going on.
Makes it really easy to do just, you know, every day.
ryan long
But when you really want something, I think none of that matters.
Like all that matters to me was like, At the end of that week, did I have a new two minutes?
It's great.
Well, do I have this new joke?
If that's the most important thing, then who cares about all the other stuff?
I mean, you sound like a guy, I mean, we've even talked about this before, that when you were younger, you were like, I wanted to be a journalist.
And you were willing to- Oh, I didn't.
Well, remember, this is what you said, that you put your own money in, you sent yourself overseas, you started doing stories, correct?
Am I right?
tim pool
Not when I was a little kid.
ryan long
Not when you were a little kid.
What did I say, when you were younger?
tim pool
When I was 26 and started doing this, it wasn't so much about being a journalist, because I had no aspirations for journalism or anything like that.
It was about traveling.
Traveling, seeing stuff, and then talking about it.
Which is basically, you know, at its heart, journalism.
ryan long
Well, it sounds like you decided that you were gonna do something and you were gonna do it no matter what.
tim pool
I decided I was like, dude, it'd be really cool to fly to Spain and see what's going on.
lydia smith
Heck yeah.
tim pool
People love traveling and seeing stuff.
ryan long
I mean, I could give the press answer of comedy where you're like, so what is it like?
And I'm like, I don't know, dude, I just get up there, have a couple beers, whatever.
That definitely sounds cooler.
tim pool
It's like telling a story, you know?
ryan long
There is a thing where I'm always like, why do I do this?
Because it is so much easier to be like, I don't know, dude, I just tell some jokes.
It sounds so much cooler.
tim pool
But what's the alternative?
Do you just, like, not work?
Sit around and play video games or what?
ryan long
What could I do?
I mean, make videos, podcast, I mean, be in TV shows.
Like, there's a million things you could do.
I just mean stand up comedy.
Well, I mean, it's what you said.
It's the exact same thing you said.
It's like when you're skateboarding, there's a million things you could do in the skateboard community, but like spending five hours a day, like perfecting one trick.
Like, yeah, that is the hard part.
The easy part is going and making commercials, doing, you know, endorsement deals, like hanging out, doing interviews, whatever, all that stuff.
tim pool
So back to the original point as to why we're talking about being lazy is that you mentioned these 55-year-old guys have essentially become lazy.
I could imagine when... Yes, I think so.
How old is Bill Maher?
ryan long
Dude, they're plugging in words to a formula that they've said before in a lot of ways.
tim pool
Let's see how old this guy is.
lydia smith
Yeah, we have to look it up now.
tim pool
Bill Maher is 64 years old.
He's not even 55.
He's 64.
And he has writers.
ian crossland
I would imagine he's got a huge writing team.
tim pool
It was a week after the Covington Kids incident, and he was wrong.
And I'm like, dude, your show is live.
How hard is it to use Google?
All of these news outlets eventually issued these half-assed corrections, and he was still wrong.
And I'm like, that.
is low information, laziness.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's where people like Seth MacFarlane and Bill Maher are.
And Seth MacFarlane, I don't think it's his obligation to be on The Pulse because he made a cartoon show about, you know, fart humor.
But Bill Maher is literally doing political commentary and comedy.
He's a comedian.
And it's like he's just gotten so lazy with it that it's like two months after something happens, he talks about it.
You know, like woke culture and cancel culture.
It's like, I'm glad you're calling out this authoritarianism and this weird PC culture, but dude, you're talking about stuff that's months old.
Like, you didn't just realize?
Did you not Google anything?
ryan long
Well, there's an ecosystem, right?
And unfortunately, how it works is people like you, I guess, would be like a rung under that.
And what they do is they look at you guys and it's like, oh, when it works for the under rung underneath them, And then there's an ecosystem that goes below, right?
You'll watch the same thing with Dave Chappelle or people like that.
Watch what the comics that are the top young people in the clubs are talking about.
Two years later, that'll be in Chappelle's special.
And unfortunately, eventually, you get to have that position and then you can be like, What's going on down there?
Oh, okay, I'll do that.
Pluck, I'll talk about that, because you're not in the clubs, you're not in the mix, you're talking to the people, right?
So that's why someone like Joe Rogan, he's kind of older, but he's still super relevant, because he's still in it, right?
tim pool
He's still having guests on, he's still reading all the news, he's in it.
The reality is, there are some political commentators that are high profile, been on TV for a long time, that I think probably should have retired a long time ago, and they're phoning it in.
They're like, salary's good, the ratings are good, just you write it up, I'll read it, and then I'm going home.
ryan long
I think Howard Stern still has another 20 seasons in him.
tim pool
He thinks so.
Does anybody even listen to that guy anymore?
ryan long
All he does is bring people on.
Dude, he's one of my favorites of all time.
But all he does now is bring ex-Cast Members of SNL on and ask them about their audition for an hour and a half.
tim pool
Are you serious?
ryan long
Basically.
tim pool
So I know that he's been vocal recently, and I'm like, who does he talk to?
Do people actually listen?
ryan long
Yeah.
A lot of people like that.
That's the other thing.
To be controversial, it's kind of a young man's game in a lot of ways, right?
So when you're 60 years old or 70 years old, do you really want everyone yelling at you and all that stuff?
You're like, but again, and then there is something to be said about that when you're at that age, like maybe just step outside and do a David Letterman style.
Maybe you don't have to insert yourself, but like to kind of insert yourself and then to take the easy take.
It's like someone like Howard Stern and that's where the Sacha Baron Cohen's and Stern.
It's like they kind of go, they take the side of, you know, what mainstream culture is.
And it was like, Everything that you're saying right now would have made anything that you've done your entire career, you know, not available to do.
Like, Sacha Maron Cohen kind of went on, you know, all these news outlets and he was doing like a speech for the ADL and he goes, you know, we need to stop anti-semitism and all this stuff.
And Facebook banned everybody.
Sacha Baron Cohen had a song called, uh, Throw the Jew Down a Well, right?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ryan long
Satirical, mind you, but if you were to put that on Facebook right now, if Ryan Long, me, had a new video that's coming out, one of my Monday videos, and it's Throw the Jew Down a Well, and it's a bunch of people singing that, it would be taken down in one second.
tim pool
Yeah.
ryan long
So it's kind of like, there's this hypocrisy, it's like, well, yeah, those rules don't apply to you now, and it's, they always want to kind of, you know, pull the rug out for people behind them, and I think, a lot of people, I just don't think they even see the hypocrisy.
tim pool
You know that he did get censored on Facebook, though.
For what one?
Baron Cohen. For what one? He had some article about hate speech and the image he used was
a picture of, no it wasn't hate speech it was fake news. He was like this disinformation
is making people go crazy or whatever and we gotta fix it.
And the image he used was someone holding like a QAnon sign and so Facebook flagged
it as false. Because he was showing the thing. But then he tweeted he was like Facebook what
are you doing?
Why are you censoring me?
unidentified
I'm special.
I'm allowed.
ryan long
I'm the good one.
I'm on the good team.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
ryan long
Dude, and he's like one of the funniest guys that ever lived.
I don't think so.
Dude, the early Allie.
I mean, again, like I really do think this kind of like edgy boy comedy stuff is like a young man's game if you really want to.
So I think that's where you're going.
You can't be in Hollywood hobnobbing with these people and then also be making crazy stuff.
tim pool
You can't be a PC edgy boy.
ryan long
Well, I know.
I agree.
tim pool
So it's like he's trying to be, because these people don't have principles.
Sacha Baron Cohen should be the one mocking the authoritarian ivory tower elites.
ryan long
He was supposed to be- But he's one of them now, so how?
He's making these movies, you know, he's married to- he's in the club, he has to see- and I get it.
Like, even as a comedian, it's like, if I was living in LA, and then I go and see all these people, and I was doing my podcast, I would be like, you know what this- and I go, heck, I kind of spent an hour talking to that guy yesterday, like I just feel kind of, like what am I, that guy?
tim pool
I'd go for it.
ryan long
No, the trick is you have to do what South Park guys did, you have to kind of stay out of it.
As soon as you stay, as soon as you get it, as soon as it's all your friends, now you're just doing what politicians do, where you have to go out and pretend and then you meet them again and you go, you know, this is all just an act.
But it's hard to be real and be truthful when these are your friends.
Like imagine You do that?
Could you go and do a full episode about why he's a piece of garbage and then be like, hey, buddy, how's it going?
tim pool
If Ian punted a cat, I'd be like, dude, this guy punted a cat.
I don't know how, what are you doing?
ryan long
He would rat you out that quick?
unidentified
He sure would, yeah.
tim pool
We argue on the show quite a bit.
ryan long
Well, that's one thing.
tim pool
We're friends, but it's fun to argue things when we do.
ryan long
I mean, that's why comedians, a little bit, you'll see comedians a lot of times say, we have a code, I won't make fun of comedians.
And one of the reasons is because you have to see them every day.
You know, it's like, how do you go make fun of someone and then show up at work and they're there and you've started a whole internet campaign?
You'd be like, yo, what the hell, dude?
tim pool
I agree.
ryan long
It's a fight.
How about like, we're fighting now.
tim pool
I'd be like, I'm going to say whatever I want.
You know what I mean?
Like if someone does something that's worthy of being made fun of, I'd be like, dude, you're a comedian.
I'm a comedian.
Grow up.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
But see, the difference is that Tim is not pulling up the ladder behind him.
And what I see a lot of these comedians doing is just reeling up the ladder behind them.
They don't care about who comes next.
They don't care about who's next in line.
Like, they really, they don't care.
Like, I don't understand why not.
They should care about the Next Generation Promise.
tim pool
Well, Joe Rogan does.
ryan long
Yeah, and I think that there is, you can look at it two ways.
You can say these people are kind of evil, or you can say it's like naive, or, you know, they just don't even care or see any of it.
But I think it's probably the latter.
It's like, this is just what's around them.
They go, hey, if you do this, you're one of the good guys.
And then you go, also, it does kind of screw over people, but you don't even see it like that.
You kind of, one of the things that kind of drove me nuts is there are some people that were, you know, whether they're comedians or they go, there's this new thing where it's almost like they're trying to extend an olive branch against cancel culture where they go, you know, we need to make a path for redemption.
And I get the message sounds good where you go there needs to be a path for redemption for people that have you know said the wrong things or done the wrong things and everyone goes yeah see this is how we need to treat people but and it's core it seems nice but you go who made you judge and jury for what are the right opinions and it's just include like a lot of their premises are just included that they have all of the right opinions and takes and you know lifestyle things and then and you're wrong and you go Or, option two, is maybe we're allowed to have different opinions, and I don't need to be put in the corner of the bad guys, and then you allow me to come in.
Like, that's church language, you know?
tim pool
Well, now Parler's taken off.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Parler's taken off, and conservatives are joining like crazy, and it's really funny when I see these leftists and liberals making fun of it.
I'll see them on Facebook all the time, and they'll say like, you know, what do they call it, Mindspace?
You know?
ryan long
That sounds a little German in the wrong way.
tim pool
Yeah, and it was like, it's like a very ha-ha, you know, Mindspace, I get it, ha-ha.
And they're all like, you know, it's where all the racists are.
Someone posted, I would go to parlor, but I think I've had my fill of hearing racists spout the n-word.
And I'm like, you actually, you actually can't say that in a parlor.
Parlor's got broadcast restrictions.
They say it's like if you can't say it on TV, you can't say it on Parlor.
So it's actually fairly strict that people are just hoping that they're not going to be biased against them.
So like on Twitter, you get banned for saying learn to code.
You can say learn to code on Parlor.
On Twitter, you can actually say some fairly offensive things and not get banned that you can't say on Parlor.
But people, it's just different rules.
ryan long
Yeah, and partisan rules.
I mean, you know, this is the problem in general with, you know, entertainment and all sorts of things, is that, you know, the free speech becomes like a right wing thing.
So there's these left wing, you know, networks and stuff like that.
So the right wing networks go, oh, we'll be like the free speech network.
But it's like, no, you're not.
Parler is like a bunch of right wing creators that were like, it's pretty, pretty vocal about their opinions.
What you need is like, bipartisan.
Like, I want to go, when I talk to these TV networks that are, you know, you look at their thing and it's all Trump's the worst and I'm not really interested in being part of that, but then, you know, you go to these other places and they're like, we agree, you can say whatever you want, but like, nothing bad about Jesus and also Trump kind of rule.
What you want is a TV network that says, I don't even know what these guys are doing, but the kids seem to like it.
Like that's what you want.
You want them to not be involved.
They go, I don't have a political opinion.
This is what it, you know, and there's a bit of that at these streaming services, but that's what you need.
A Twitter that is started by someone that says, Hey, I also don't have a big parlor account.
I'm not trying to like build my profile in conjunction with this new platform.
tim pool
You know, the challenge is, what happens when your ISP or your server hosting company or your hosting company or whatever comes to you and says, look, dude, we got nothing against you, we think it's really great you're doing this site, but you've got these people posting this stuff and it's bad for our business.
ryan long
They're posting pro-Hillary stuff and it's really bad for our parlor crowd.
tim pool
And what happens?
For a Patriot Pill sponsorship?
People think it's more nefarious, like the woke lawyers show up from Google and they're like, you better take that down or we're gonna ban you.
No, it happens, you get a phone call like, dude, they're attacking us, they're threatening us, they're going after my family.
Can you just take these guys down?
It's not a big deal, it's one guy.
And then they're gonna stop harassing me.
And they go, okay, okay, dude, I'm sorry, I'll take it down.
It's more insidious.
ryan long
It gets in your head, it's like a little...
You know it's the same thing where if you tell someone that the comedy festivals don't like when you work dirty.
It's like every time you have a swear word you go, did I really need that?
Like it just starts to infect your head.
I always say like when people are you know young and trying to like build their life.
If you have like a girlfriend that's kind of needy It might not affect you one thing, but she's like, oh, you're going to do that?
Oh, you're going to go do another set?
After two years, it just changes your brain chemistry, where you start being like, ah, I can't.
It makes you more fearful, and it makes you less brave, and all that sort of stuff happens.
So these things have the same thing.
You go, I know if I have people yelling the N-word on my platform.
My advertising dollars are going to go from a million dollar ads to, you know, a hundred thousand dollar ads.
ian crossland
Right.
ryan long
So why don't I try to get rid of that?
It's like, well, because you're based on that.
And now you're just in the, they all go that same route.
tim pool
The solution is, is a, uh, uh, an upper level and a lower level where when you log in your default on the, um, moderated space, if someone posts a racial slur, they get knocked down to the basement.
ryan long
Oh yeah.
tim pool
So here's the way it works, though.
If you're on the platform, you can turn on, you can activate the filter so you can see all posts no matter what.
If you have the general use filter on, you won't see the people who get banned or shuttered.
ryan long
The basement is just a bunch of people, like, with slime and just chains on there.
ian crossland
There should be a decentralized mesh network so there's no ISP.
tim pool
The Fediverse.
ian crossland
If there's no ISP, we have to bypass the ISP so every device is hosting it.
And then you would put the words in that you don't want to see, and then it would filter out all those posts.
tim pool
Yeah, I think the simplest way is you can block people.
And you can block people.
I guess the bigger problem, they say, is advertisers don't want to appear next to this stuff.
And so I'm like, alright, here's what you do.
Hire a guy to stand next to a Coke billboard screaming racial slurs and obscenities and then film it and say, Coke, why are you supporting this?
Why are you supporting this, Coke?
And they're gonna be like, it's a random guy next to our billboard, it's not our fault.
Welcome to the internet!
If a random guy is online and your ad appears next to it, it's not your fault.
Stop thinking that.
I'm not gonna blame you because the guy is like a Klan guy standing next to a Coke.
Or it's like, you got a guy in a Klan outfit or whatever and he's drinking Budweiser.
It's like, oh Budweiser, that's your fault now.
No, that's ridiculous.
ryan long
It would just, it would...
The two-tier system sounds good, or if, you know, someone that just wasn't ideologically driven, because that, like, really doesn't exist in the social media sphere.
I mean, you might say, like, Zuckerberg's the closest, potentially, that, you know, he kind of seems to be trying to play both sides, and maybe he outwardly does one thing, but he still has an ideological, like, employee base that works one way.
I mean, a lot of people want the government to get involved, but it's like, you know, they just sort of do the same thing.
They pretend, right?
Like, you know, Ted Cruz.
All of those hearings are just kind of for someone to yell at.
What's the guy's name?
The Twitter guy, Jack Dorsey.
They give him his talking to.
tim pool
And then Jack's confused at the time because he's nothing to do with Twitter for the most part, and he's just like, Um, I think we're trying to create- He barely got out of his bed!
ryan long
That guy didn't even have a microphone.
He was like on the toilet taking that like Congress meeting.
tim pool
And then, look, these things are just, it's fake.
They're not gonna do anything about it.
ryan long
It's so fake.
They don't do anything about it.
tim pool
How dare you ban someone?
ryan long
No, it's the exact same thing as, like, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being like, this percent of people own this percent of money!
And everyone applauses, and then they're like, anyways, the bill went through, but... Right, right, right.
tim pool
That actually happened.
ryan long
Yeah, that's all, like, you know, but she gets her clip, and it helps her Twitter account.
tim pool
Wasn't it like she railed against it, but then voted for it?
ryan long
That's even better.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then she does her Instagram live and she gets her millions of followers.
ryan long
What do you say?
I wasn't voting for it.
tim pool
Politicians are going to become formalities at a certain point.
If not, they already are where it's like, I said enough things that you agree with.
So now I get to be the person you look at.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't actually do anything.
We don't pass laws.
We waste everyone's time.
ian crossland
Really?
We don't need them anymore.
We're right at the precipice of not needing them anymore.
tim pool
I can't stand looking at him half the time.
know if we need them or we don't. I think that's not the issue. The issue is they're
not doing anything now and everyone's kind of upset about it.
I noticed. Yeah. So like approval for Congress is lower than like every other branch.
ian crossland
I can't stand looking at them half the time. It's so annoying. They just go on and on.
tim pool
Especially when they, look, these are Republicans in this hearing talking to big tech.
And I just shut it off.
I'm like, dude, how many times do you think I give a flying that you yelled at Mark Zuckerberg?
I don't care.
Yeah, exactly.
ryan long
It's for, you know, someone's dad or, you know, grandfather to post it and be like, yeah, let him have it.
tim pool
Maybe I'm biased here, but maybe the left loves it when they see AOC do the finger snap and clap back.
ryan long
Yeah, they love the ceremonial thing.
tim pool
Me watching Ted Cruz say for the fifth time the exact same thing, I'm like, dude, shut up.
ryan long
He's always so appalled.
tim pool
I just don't care anymore.
Look, dude, respect for standing up and trying to do something the first time, but it's like, fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice, shame on you.
Fool me three, four, five.
What's going on?
What are you doing?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Sorry, man.
Have you proposed anything?
Have you done anything?
These hearings are meaningless.
And to be fair, maybe they just don't have the power to do anything.
ryan long
I don't think they do, and I don't think they want to.
I don't think they want to.
ian crossland
It seems like they're afraid to do the wrong thing, so they don't do anything.
ryan long
I don't know if there is anything they could really do.
tim pool
As long as they don't have both chambers, the Democrats won't agree with the Republicans, nothing's going to happen.
ryan long
What are you going to do?
Get the government involved?
Now the government's the one censoring, making sure the tweets are right?
All you can do is apply pressure.
ian crossland
I'd like to free the software code so that other companies can pop up with the same code.
That's the best thing I can think of.
tim pool
I don't agree with giving someone's property away to someone else because you don't like what they're doing.
I think we can break them up or, breaking up to incentivize more market competition or regulate them to incentivize more market competition or something.
unidentified
Neither of those would incentivize competition though.
tim pool
The problem right now is that whenever a new platform pops up, CNN and these woke leftists attack it with, like, terroristic campaigns.
Threatening people and their kids and trying to cancel people so they panic and they shut it down.
ian crossland
You need, like, 7,000 new networks at once.
tim pool
So, we actually saw people get banned from, like, Google seized the DNS, the actual domain name of, like, I saw an article on the topic of the crazy articles.
will not name but like the big companies just do whatever they want.
Banks will shut them down.
We had Mastercard apparently reach out to Patreon and say ban this guy.
So yeah sure we want alternatives to Facebook and Twitter but every time someone tries the
left goes after them to defend the establishment.
These people are fascists.
ian crossland
It's too easy.
tim pool
They're defending massive corporations.
ryan long
I saw an article and on the topic of the crazy articles it was by your old employer Vice
and it said that we need a list of the housewives from like the housewives of reality series
is that haven't declared Biden the winner yet.
tim pool
Are you serious?
ryan long
I'm dead serious.
I talked about it.
And so basically they were like the housewife of Beverly Hills, the housewife of Los Angeles.
These are three people.
And it's just a little interesting that they've been silent.
Not that we know they voted for Trump.
They just haven't declared.
They haven't said congratulations yet.
tim pool
Sir, sir, do you know who Lindsey Graham is?
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
Dave Smith posted everything.
encouraged Trump to fight this tooth and nail.
He's donated money, my understanding, he donated money to help Trump.
And then on the floor of the Senate, he walks up and fist bumps Kamala Harris, pats her
on the back and walks off.
ryan long
Yeah.
unidentified
It is fake.
tim pool
These people hate Trump.
ryan long
Dave Smith.
tim pool
He's not in the club.
Trump's not in the club.
They hate the guy.
And Joe Biden's the club and Kamala Harris is the club and they've regained control and
now they're dancing behind the scenes, doing a little shuffle dance.
Lindsey Graham high-fives everybody, they're all laughing.
ryan long
They're having pajama parties.
tim pool
Yup, yup, the pillow fights, and they're just like, they're spraying champagne everywhere.
And then they do these hearings where they pretend they actually care.
ian crossland
We gotta get him out of there because I'm starting to feel like the French Revolution was pretty violent and bloody, and I'm feeling like it's headed towards that if we don't get these people out of that position.
Well, hold on.
tim pool
First of all, we don't want anything bad to happen.
ian crossland
No, I don't want those people to get hurt, but they're doing nothing and angering people.
tim pool
The left is showing up to people's houses with mock guillotines.
Like, we're getting to that point where the left is losing it.
ian crossland
We have to fix the system before it goes crazy.
ryan long
I was kind of always saying that was one of the best ones with the censorship stuff, because, you know, when they go, oh, this person said the wrong thing, and then you'd see, like, I'm like, you've written hang the landlords on your, like, wall.
I'm a landlord.
Do you want me to die?
No, I'm just being hyperbolic.
I go, okay.
tim pool
That's one of the bits you have, right?
ryan long
No, it's not.
I don't do it on stage.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Like the skit you did with the guys choosing the basketball team.
ryan long
Oh yeah.
And the skit.
tim pool
The guy's like, I'm a landlord.
ryan long
I am a landlord.
ian crossland
Yeah.
ryan long
But that's what, that's where it's from.
It's for me, but it's, I've seen that so many times and you go, okay, so now can you see how they were joking at same thing?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So, you know, everyone needs to- These- A lot of these people don't understand how, like, making a thing happens.
So it's like, I built a house.
That house will not stand forever.
It needs maintenance.
ryan long
That's a very good point.
tim pool
And then they walk up saying, I should be able to live in that house.
And it's like, but I'm the one who maintains it.
Stop- Stopping it from falling down.
I don't care.
You shouldn't be allowed to have it.
I should live in it.
Then if they do, then it falls apart.
Then they're in it and they get a falling- you know.
ryan long
a lot. It's all the organizations that are sort of built around that too. They're very good at,
you know, acquiring influence and all that stuff. You know, my buddy, he like works at like a bank
and they went to a seminar recently for a bank and all of it was, you know, how to do diversity,
how to stop global warming, nothing about running a bank, right? You know, zero things about how to,
you know, anything to do with running a bank. And you go, yeah, because these people, a lot of the
people that are involved with this stuff, that's why you always find that like, oh, they have all
these internal problems. They're not paying people right there. You know, a lot of these places don't
actually know how to run companies.
But they know how to meddle in your company.
They're professionals at that.
Like the comedians that don't know how to tell a joke, but they're professionals at meddling in your jokes.
tim pool
There's actually a really successful commune that has about a hundred... Here we go.
No, for real, yeah.
It's got about a hundred members at any given time, and they have a limit.
They can't have more than that.
You apply, then you come in for like an interview and if they approve you get to join for a certain amount of time.
And you know what you do when you join this very successful commune?
You join, you show up, they say here's your bed, have a nice day, we'll see you in the morning.
The first thing you do is?
ryan long
Pledge allegiance to Lena Dunham.
tim pool
You get to work.
Get to work!
You start farming, you start doing chores from sunup to sundown, congratulations, welcome
to doing hard labor all day every day.
And it works because they screen people and find people who actually like doing hard work,
and they have fun and they sing songs at night and they hang out and then they work together
in the day and they enjoy themselves, they enjoy gardening, they enjoy building.
The problem is, you know why they screen people?
Because they don't want pseudo-college-educated fake socialists who are like, actually, I'm the managerial elite who's gonna help you run this effectively.
Get out.
If you don't do work, get out.
We work.
We work and then we share the food and we have fun.
ryan long
Question one, what's your name?
Question two, do you enjoy pushing boulders around?
Yeah, right.
tim pool
Will you mind tilling the field for three weeks straight, sunup to sundown, no days off?
ryan long
A lot of people right now are sort of, because it is hard to get rid of like a culture of everyone has something to say and everyone's meddling with the managers when you start it.
But you have to kind of, you have to start it like that, you know, not hire the people that are that.
Yeah, you have to find people from the get go that kind of like agree with your vision and I remember when we were, you know, me and Matt at The Hard Times, we were filming, and a lot of times when we'd hire people, we'd kind of look at their Facebook, you'd look at this, and you'd go, you know, what is this person's priorities, you know?
Are they posting about cinematography that they did and filming, or are they posting about people that they're mad at, and this and that, and maybe a problem with their last boss, and you can find out pretty quickly right now if someone's, if the job or, you know, whether it's Their hobby or broadcasting is how important of that is on their like hierarchy of beliefs.
tim pool
I don't have that problem.
You know, I don't have that problem at all.
ryan long
Well no, you have good people here.
tim pool
No, I don't have to worry about screening anybody, you know why?
ryan long
Because the people- You gotta make them do manual labor if they misbehave.
The woke people- Lydia's been pushing around some boulders in the back.
tim pool
The woke people and the people who are scared of the woke people won't work for me anyway.
That's it.
ryan long
Right.
tim pool
So I actually was trying to hire someone to do lighting and I have a friend who runs a production company and they're like, they don't want to do lighting for you.
And I laughed and I was like, good.
I don't want them in my house.
If like, those are the kind of, I'm glad they self-screened themselves.
And then, uh, I hired an audio guy through this company and it was fine.
He's like, cool, man.
Awesome show.
Dig it.
Have a nice day.
ryan long
Yeah, he didn't care.
tim pool
If somebody is that crazy, I don't want them anywhere near my house.
Like that level of craziness.
Like we had a leftist, anti-fascist kind of guy in the show, but he was cool with like, yeah, I'll come hang out, no problem.
And I'm like, there you go.
If you're willing to be normal and chill and you don't mind, then that's the kind of person that I'm interested in having a conversation with or working with.
If I put out like, here's a, I would like a job, not a single crazy woke person's going to apply for it.
Perfect.
I don't got to worry about it.
I wonder though, like, I wonder, I can't, I don't think it's illegal to actually say no woke people, right?
Like if your woke need not apply?
ryan long
But you know, woke is just the newest form of a certain class of people that wants to be a professional hall monitor.
This existed before, it's just they've taken different forms.
tim pool
This is interesting.
Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act protects people on a bunch of things.
It protects people based on religion, right?
That's interesting because, you know, we have a separation of church and state.
It's informal for the most part, but we don't have a separation of state and ideology.
So these woke people are putting their psychotic beliefs, injecting it into the system and forcing it upon people, and it's getting creepy, but it is very much a religion.
But you can discriminate against them, can't you?
Ideology is not a protected class, so I can literally put up a sign saying, like, woke and need not apply.
ryan long
Well, I mean, it would be hard for you to... I think you'd have to find a way to classify that, and once you classified it, I think you'd be in trouble if you said, oh, someone... If you put it on paper, sure, but if you put it on paper, they'd be like, what does that mean?
It's like, oh, they support Black Lives Matter.
What does that mean?
They support women.
Like, when you put those things on paper, I mean, it's hard to...
tim pool
But I mean... Look, first of all, you could sue a ham sandwich, right?
If someone came to me and said they supported Black Lives Matter, I'd be like, cool, that's great, that's wonderful.
If they said that they thought discrimination and racism were wrong, I'd be like, that's absolutely fantastic.
ryan long
Of course.
tim pool
We agree with you 100%.
If they came in and said they were this woke authoritarian intersectionalist or whatever, or they were obviously like a woke SJW type, I'd be like, you need not apply.
It's a waste of your time.
ryan long
Yeah, I mean it is a waste of your time if you want to start telling me how to run the company as opposed to doing your job.
It's like, your job is going to be to do this.
If you're going to start getting involved in like, you know, if you're going to spend 90% of your time being like, hey I just was doing a survey of the people you hired and it's only 40% women and 60% guys, you go, well that's actually not, like, we didn't hire you to do an audit of our company's employeeship.
tim pool
Well, first of all, My company is a minority-owned company.
lydia smith
It's true.
tim pool
And I think I'm the only minority employee.
ryan long
Which one's that, gay?
unidentified
What?
No, he's technically not.
ryan long
What did we say before?
No gay stuff?
tim pool
No, that's not true.
unidentified
Boom!
ryan long
Got him!
unidentified
Woo!
ryan long
Jake, that's it.
tim pool
I posted on Instagram, I said, what did I say, like, Tim Cass is a minority-owned company, Gibbs Money, or something like that.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
And, like, people were laughing and, you know, they liked it.
ryan long
I actually, I started the hashtag for diversity, hashtag Bollywood2Brown.
Oh yeah?
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
ryan long
I hired, I've said this before, but I said that on my show, I hired like, when I was doing my TV show in CBC in Canada, I hired all these, you know, a lot of minorities, like Amish Patel, Natisha Gujji, even though there was far more talented white people, but that's the kind of guy that I am.
tim pool
This guy, this guy's got all our numbers with the funniest joke of the night.
lydia smith
Are you super chatting?
tim pool
Delorio, yes, so super chat.
Ted Delorio says, Bill Maher is the internet explorer of comedians.
I think that, like, oddly does explain Bill Maher.
ian crossland
Strongly utilized in 2003.
Redundant.
tim pool
And then fell into obsolescence.
ryan long
Bill Maher's got it all figured out, though, for sure.
tim pool
You know, it's crazy because He's got good points, but it's like the news he's reading is from two weeks ago.
ian crossland
He's retired.
tim pool
Yeah, he's retired.
ian crossland
Comedy and entertainment's one of those careers that you can retire and keep doing it.
But they just, they're not doing it.
They're just like cashing in on it now.
And they're still so, they can just turn a camera on, they're so famous that you get yourself tickets.
tim pool
Write me a script.
Write me a script.
I'll be here to read it for 15 minutes and I'm going home.
That's basically what we get.
And so a lot of these, like Bill Maher phones it in.
And then they book people that are easy gets for him.
Like, he doesn't book the best of the best.
He doesn't book the people who are really going to challenge him.
Like, Bill, you're wrong about this.
He books the low-hanging fruit.
ryan long
Which is fine, but it's the wrong field to be phoning it in.
It's like, he needs to be like, you know what, this is an 80 hour a week job to stay on the polls for.
Right now, I should give this to someone else.
Do your documentaries once every year.
Like, you know what I mean?
You know how hard, probably, it is to do what you do.
It's like, if you were starting to feel like, you know what, this is a lot, you go, okay, maybe it's time to, you know, I'm the 50-year-old playing basketball still, it's maybe time to- Taking- You can do other things, you know?
tim pool
Taking time off.
ryan long
It's not the only job.
tim pool
Takes your finger off the pulse.
And then so like, here's how it works.
If I, I take no days off.
I took, I've had a few days off for the past few years.
ryan long
Gary Vee over here!
tim pool
Usually, usually, so the only days I've had one actual chosen day off, and this was in the past.
ryan long
Is that a Jewish joke?
tim pool
It was right at the election.
ryan long
No.
tim pool
So I've had like four days off, and one was because I lost my voice, and one was because I actually got sick, and I just was like, sick.
It happens.
ryan long
All year?
tim pool
For the past four years, I've had like four days off.
ryan long
That's wild.
tim pool
And the only actual chosen day off was Sunday after they called it for Joe Biden.
So then I was like, it's been a crazy week.
The news has been nuts.
I'm gonna go ride my bike.
Just kind of go chill.
But here's the thing.
Here's what happens.
That day off, news happens.
I come back and now I'm a day behind on what the news is.
ryan long
So for someone like Bill Maher... Geez, I love you going to sleep that night being like, the news never stops.
tim pool
It doesn't.
unidentified
It keeps going.
tim pool
I'm falling behind.
You know how often I get emails from people who are like, dude, check out this story.
And it's something I talked about three weeks ago.
unidentified
Because regular people are not as up and you get them before they happen.
Yeah.
tim pool
So a lot of times, sometimes I'll do a story as like part of a bigger context that was from like a week or two ago,
but for the most part, it's like this thing just happened.
And I'll get a new story out with like an hour of the story breaking or something.
So you take a day off, you start to fall behind.
You semi-retire and tell your writers to deal with it, and now you've got a bunch of... You know what the Peter principle is?
ryan long
They don't care the way you care, and they weren't great.
I mean, they're just writers.
Not to say that those people aren't great, but writing for your show is probably not the vehicle that they're going to really excel in.
I don't have scripts.
tim pool
I don't have scripts.
ryan long
Yeah, I just mean in general.
tim pool
I couldn't do it.
But for someone like Bill Maher, he probably gets his cliff notes.
ryan long
We get straight up scripts.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like later in the show when he's talking.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So, you know what the Peter Principle is?
ryan long
Uh, is that like a penis thing?
tim pool
No, no, it's that people are- You sucked it, you bought it?
ryan long
No, it's uh- You know?
tim pool
People are hired to the position of their, you know, until they become inefficient, basically.
So like, someone's really good in the mailroom, so you promote him to like, mailroom manager, but they're not good at being a manager.
You know what I mean?
There's another, I believe it's the Peter Principle, there's another one where it says that The founder of the company can only hire people who are less driven and less talented than he is.
And so it creates a downward slope effect where a founder is driven and smart and comes up with an idea and starts a company, then hires, you know, his commanders who aren't the same as him.
Because look, if you're a founder of a company, you can't hire another founder because they're founding their own company.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
So you find the next tier of people, then they, as the commanders, are looking for people who can manage menial tasks, and then higher down, and higher down, and higher down.
And then eventually you have a bunch of people who are really bad at, like, who are not very smart, not very capable, and just do menial tasks.
And then the founder, when they want to, so you end up with a Bill Maher, and he says, okay, I'm gonna phone it in from now on, and tells his, you know, underlings.
ryan long
But he doesn't have another, you know, like a CEO mentality.
tim pool
The people who take over to write the scripts are nowhere near the talent and drive that he had when he was at his peak.
ryan long
Because he hired accordingly.
unidentified
Because he was there, why did he need that?
tim pool
Would you choose to stop doing YouTube and stop being a personality and go and write for Bill Maher?
ryan long
No, it would take a lot of money.
I mean, I get offers like that for directing, especially, and you're like, it's going to be overvalued for me to do that right now.
tim pool
Exactly.
And so, if he can't get someone like you, who you've definitely got your finger on the pulse, your bits are all funny, topical, extremely funny.
ryan long
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I say this with editing all the time.
It's like, with editors, this is why it's so impossible.
People go, you know, and it's one thing, maybe something like this, but with real comedy, great comedy, you go, the same...
For someone to be a great editor, they're probably, like, usually very funny, they usually have a good on the pulse, they kind of get culture, you know, they get timing, and they get, like, music, and all these things, and, like, that type of person's usually pretty good with people, and why would they ever in a million years want to be an editor?
tim pool
Right.
ryan long
So, it's very hard to find one.
tim pool
So, Bill Maher needs someone like you if he wants to be relevant.
But why?
You're going to replace him?
ryan long
I'll tell you the answer, and I've talked about this before, but I think the answer is you need the version of me that's 22.
You know what I mean?
And the truth is, I think there is a benefit for a 22-year-old or a 23-year-old to be that, and I think there's a lot of place for that.
tim pool
I think a 22 year old would be better served just making their own channel and starting.
ryan long
Just get started.
They might be.
tim pool
Start pushing that snowball down the hill now.
You know, to be fair, I had a discussion with a friend a while ago.
ryan long
Well, maybe then once you're ready to, you know, not be in charge of the ship, that's when it's time to, you know, move on to a new ship.
tim pool
I think Bill Maher should be hiring a 22-year-old to host the show.
He should find, like, he should be saying, you should host real time.
And he would executive produce, he would get a share for, you know, producing or whatever.
ryan long
And if he's gonna phone it in and he's not gonna be... I think he still wants to, you know, they get addicted to it.
I think he still likes to go around Hollywood and they go, hey, it's Bill Maher.
tim pool
And that's probably another... They fade quickly.
ryan long
I mean, we all think we're so much more important than you are, but like, Someone like that.
You know, Jon Stewart left and he comes back every once in a while, but you don't think about him anymore.
You know what I mean?
Every once in a while he comes back and cries for 9-11 or whatever.
tim pool
He praised Trump.
ryan long
He what?
tim pool
He praised Trump.
ryan long
What did he say?
tim pool
That Trump was the only one actually helping.
ryan long
He's sexy.
Oh really?
tim pool
Yeah, helping the 9-11 first responders.
And he's like, no one else would do it and Trump did a really great job.
ian crossland
And indeed he was hot.
tim pool
That's why I respect Jon Stewart.
ryan long
I respect Jon Stewart.
Jon Stewart was super funny, man.
He created a genre of television.
tim pool
And he dragged journalists because he said Trump will come after them and criticize them.
They take it personally and then respond in kind instead of just doing journalism.
They act the way Trump wants them to.
ryan long
Yeah.
They act like Trump, really.
lydia smith
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, it's true.
ryan long
They love him so much.
He brings, you know, he's a mirror of all these people.
tim pool
What if, like, when this is all over, it's like the SNL stage, and Trump comes out, and then all the journalists come out, all the never-Trumpers, and they, like, raise their hands, and they smile.
ian crossland
Him and Alec Baldwin.
Trump and Alec Baldwin laughing.
tim pool
Yeah, and they're laughing, and they hug.
And then Trump was like, it's been a great four years!
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Thanks so much for watching!
Yup.
And all the journalists, and they're all gone.
All their Twitters get deactivated.
We never hear from them again.
Every single one of them.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, amazing.
ryan long
Wow.
Yeah, it takes the mask off.
It was barren the whole time.
Trump was Alec Baldwin.
It wasn't Alec Baldwin, it was the fourth Baldwin.
tim pool
Here's a question I have for Trump supporters.
Would you accept Trump leaving the spotlight permanently, never to be seen from again, if he took all of the woke resistance journalists and never Trumpers with him?
And they were all just all their Twitter accounts just it's like you could do a really funny movie where it's like someone wakes up it's like and he looks at Twitter and they're all gone like every single one of them and just like what the world would be like with none of them if it never happened no just like just one day it's like you have you seen um uh the movie yesterday The guy's riding his bike, and then he gets hit by a car or something, and then right when he hits the ground, there's a power outage around the world that erases the Beatles.
ryan long
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And then he wakes up and, like, no one knows who the Beatles are.
Like, it'd be really funny if that happened, but, like, all of the Resistance, Never Trump people are just gone.
ryan long
I would like a movie where you woke up and no one ever heard of Puddle of Mud and you just get to introduce the world to the genius.
tim pool
What songs did they have anyway?
I don't even remember.
ryan long
They had Blurry.
lydia smith
They had a song called Blurry.
I actually like the song called Blurry.
Okay, give me a break.
tim pool
You ever see that video of the guy from Nickelback and he comes out on stage and someone throws a bottle and it hits him in the head?
ryan long
The bottle didn't live to tell the tale.
tim pool
I mean, that's messed up, dude.
I felt really bad when I saw it.
People were laughing, and I'm like, it's funny, but, like, dude, if you don't want to see the guy perform, you don't have to.
You can make fun of him, but if the dude wants to play music, I got no beef, and when he walked out, someone threw a bottle at him?
Just boom or leave.
ryan long
My friend went on tour with Chad Krueger and he says he's like the man.
He's so cool.
Yeah, he's cool.
tim pool
He's a nice guy.
lydia smith
He's super cool.
ryan long
He like beats people up in bars and shit.
unidentified
What?
Oh my god.
ryan long
Yeah, he got in a bar fight.
tim pool
So he's not a good guy?
ryan long
No, like he's a cool guy.
This is a positive story.
tim pool
He said he was beating people up in bars.
I'm like, what is he doing?
unidentified
Yeah, he's sick.
ryan long
No, so what happened?
He's a real tough guy in real life.
He was a cool, funny guy.
And then in a bar, some guy was like, F you Nickelback.
And then Chad Krueger was like, say it to my face and punched the guy out.
He left me like, yo, Chad Krueger's the man.
tim pool
You know what really annoys me is that someone, some protester made a sign that said Rahm Emanuel listens to Nickelback.
unidentified
Oh snap.
tim pool
And this was a protest in Chicago.
And then now every protest you go to, there's like 700 Trump listens to Nickelback signs.
it's like wow you're so original like you made a sign someone else made it's a funny joke huh but that's like so much of what we see with these protests like harry potter references oh it's like reading read another book is that is that it you like watch the harry potter movie did you even read the book probably not it'll be like trump is voldemort Here we go.
That's it.
ryan long
Giving it to them.
tim pool
Millennials have read one series.
They've read seven books, and it's the Harry Potter books.
ryan long
Well, it's also kind of like hard when people, you know, they try to like be funny now.
Because it's the same thing like when you've been the teacher for so long, right?
They've been telling everyone, you got to say this, you got to do this.
And then they kind of come out and they're like, hey, what are you guys laughing about?
Here's a fun joke.
And you're like, I don't know if you get to do that anymore.
So it's hard when someone's tried to be like the puritanical authoritarian for the last four years and they've been mad about everything and then they come out and they try to be goofy now.
tim pool
Why do people want to live that way?
You know what I mean?
ryan long
They had to.
They had no choice.
They were boxed into a corner by their own, you know, cowardice.
tim pool
It's so weird.
It really is a weird thing.
Like when people make jokes about men or white people or Koreans, I'm like, eh.
Is it funny, I guess?
ian crossland
They didn't want to step on the twig, man.
Jack Murphy was talking about being terrorized by their own political party or by their peers into behaving a certain way.
ryan long
Yeah, all that stuff with like, don't judge a book, like, you know, you shouldn't judge people.
A lot of it's so funny because, you know, I talk about this a bit on stage, but they have this idea that be like, Oh, just because someone's, you know, dressed like a convict doesn't mean they've been in jail.
It's like you shouldn't judge.
And you go, that's the reason we have a brain, you know, the stereotype and these different things and to use data.
Like, and I used to say, if you're walking in an alley and there's like an old lady or like a bunch of thugs, like holding guns and you go, you know, don't want to judge.
Like, you know, who knows?
ian crossland
A guy running at you at night.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
You go, I don't want to judge him.
ryan long
That's the purpose of a brain.
lydia smith
That's the whole point.
ryan long
That's the purpose.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ryan long
That's the reason you have a brain is to kind of like make judgments and and stuff like that.
tim pool
Someone told me a story about this.
I used to live in, there's an area of Chicago, I'm not going to call it this area, I don't
want to drag anybody, but I remember a friend of mine got mugged.
We were hanging out late at night out of a bar and it's a really trendy area and like
some three guys just walked up and just took his phone, his keys, took everything, his
wallet.
ryan long
And then I remember talking to, I guess the area's got- Are these the ones that de Blasio and Cuomo didn't want to
look at?
tim pool
Well, this is Chicago.
So this is, you know, this is rum.
This was a long time ago.
This was like, you know, 14 years ago or whatever when this went down, or 13.
And I remember talking to somebody about the area, because now it's getting better, and they said, it used to be that if you saw a dude walking towards you, you'd cross the street with no qualms about it, because you're like, yo, this guy...
I'm not going to be near him.
I might get mugged in this neighborhood.
Now he was like, somebody we knew was scared of being racist.
So just walked right up to a crowd of like a couple of guys and then got mugged.
lydia smith
Whoa.
tim pool
And then he was like, well, I don't want to be racist, you know?
And they were like, so you walked up to these guys and then they just robbed you?
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
That's like following Google Maps into the ocean.
lydia smith
Seriously.
tim pool
But it's like if you see a couple of guys and you don't feel comfortable, like you cross the street.
ian crossland
Um, 15 years ago, I was in Chicago walking and, um, I guess I, I had to, I was late to the train.
So I turned and I ran across the street, like between the cars.
And as I was running full speed across the street, a girl was walking right in front of me and she just took off.
I didn't mean to frighten.
I didn't know to apologize or what.
I just appeared out of nowhere.
And I was.
lydia smith
You scared me.
ian crossland
I was ready to go.
ryan long
That's just one of the things that, you know, if anything, that should be like where the gender comes together.
And it's like a lot.
I've heard girls say this legitimate to me.
They go, you don't know what it's like as a guy walking alone at night.
And you go, guys have been afraid walking alone at night.
tim pool
Guys are more likely to be victims of violent crime than women.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's like, what are you talking about?
ryan long
Well, my synopsis is, because girls don't know, because one, they've told it, and then also, like, no guy would ever tell them they're scared, so every guy's like, I'm not scared, those thugs are scared, I'm a weapon.
tim pool
But it's also the narrative being driven into women's heads that they're victims, and it's like, look at the statistics, men are more likely to be victimized.
ryan long
Yeah, it just sucks for everyone, but it's like, you don't have to make everything into, like, the political, you know, identity politics.
lydia smith
Yeah, it is so interesting what you just said.
ryan long
You're like, yeah, it sucks walking alone late at night, Yeah.
Not sweet for anybody.
tim pool
I was using an ATM in an alleyway at two in the morning and someone mugged me and it's not my fault.
Let's do super chats.
ryan long
It kind of does, you know, it goes back to that thing where they were like, you know, we need to teach, stop teaching men to like, you know, rape and stuff.
And you go, yeah.
What school are they teaching that again?
Where you go to school and they're like, you know, day one, we're going to teach you about jumping out of the bushes and bella clava selection.
tim pool
Did I ever tell you about this, uh, this woman I worked with, we were hanging out one day and she goes, I'm gonna ask you a question.
I want you to be for real with me.
Like how many of your guy friends are cool with rape?
And I, I'm not kidding.
And this was like at the, at a woke news, I was at fusion, the woke company.
And I was like, I laughed and I was like, what?
She goes, no, like your guy friends, like how many of them are cool with rape?
And I was like, are you, are you joking?
Yeah, she was like no no like how many and I was like none.
What are you talking?
Are you serious?
ryan long
And then she goes well, you're no fun.
tim pool
No, she went really?
None of them really and I was like, yes None of them if we were sitting around and one of our friends are bragging or talking like talking about how we want to do it We'd be like dude like that's not like what's wrong with you.
Are you serious?
Yeah, and she was like Really?
And I'm like, who told you these things?
ryan long
Yeah, the dudes like talk about this, like, now that the girls are all gone, like, who'd you get this week?
unidentified
Yeah, like, who did you who did you like, I heard this story about Brett Kavanaugh.
tim pool
I was so inspired.
No, no, no, no.
Maybe people and some people live that way.
ryan long
But I'm like, I don't think so.
tim pool
I went and talked to some of my friends and I was like, I gotta tell you this.
And every single guy I've talked to has had a reaction of like, what?
What's wrong with these people?
It's like, dude, first of all, it's bad enough that there are guys who go around bragging about this stuff for sure.
I haven't, I've not met them.
But for like her to think that way, that's how the world really is.
It's like this weird indoctrination from the woke left.
It's like guys secretly have parties where they, you know, Brett Kavanaugh would go to a party and drug women and they would line about the door.
That's not happening.
That's crazy.
lydia smith
So that reminds me of the 1 in 4 statistic, where 1 in 4 women who go to college campuses get raped.
That's not true.
Why would you send your daughter there?
That's absolute insanity.
ryan long
Are you kidding?
It's the same thing.
I know a lot of chicks that have had bad shit happen to them, so it's not true.
It's no joke, yeah.
Come on, man.
It's like they're not teaching people to rape in school.
Also, if this is your friend or this is your daughter or whatever, and you go, You know, instead of teaching girls to not walk through alleys, we need to teach men to walk through alleys.
It's like, let's do both!
How about let's do both?
Like, definitely don't teach people to rape, but like, until, you know, we eliminate every bad guy in the world.
Also, let's not walk through the alley at 4am at night, male or female.
unidentified
Good call.
ryan long
It's probably not the move.
lydia smith
I agree.
tim pool
Let's grab these super jets.
Friendly Neighborhood Sawyer says, it's hard not to be blackmailed right now.
It looks like America is on course to lose this election.
I don't know.
We'll see.
Michael Malice is very confident.
Just, you know, because these conversations happen, right?
Walker Mack says, suddenly conspiracy theorists don't sound so crazy now.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
I don't care if I will not be vaccinated.
I'll die before they force something into my body.
So I have this Google search.
It's really funny.
The Great Reset.
Here's the first story.
It says, The Great Reset.
Building future resilience to global risks.
And the next one says, The Baseless Great Reset.
Conspiracy theory rises again.
lydia smith
It's a conspiracy.
tim pool
From the New York Times!
How is this a thing?
lydia smith
Where are you getting this from, Tim?
tim pool
Top stories, the literal call for the Great Reset, and the New York Times saying it's a conspiracy theory.
The New York Times is absolutely fake news.
Just outright.
ryan long
Well, where I come from, the great reset's when you pull out the cartridge and blow in it.
tim pool
Someone sent me a Retron, is that what it's called?
lydia smith
They did, it's so cool.
tim pool
I love it so much.
ian crossland
Is that an emulator?
tim pool
No, it's an old, it plays Nintendo games, but it's a console.
ian crossland
It's so cool.
tim pool
I haven't seen it yet.
All right, let's see what we got here.
Daniel Teller says Great Reset equals Great Leap Forward to Electric Boogaloo.
Guys, my friends, you can't just say Electric Boogaloo, okay?
It's Great Leap Forward to American Boogaloo.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
Okay, because it was in China before I was here.
Camilo says, Ryan, do you take suggestions for skits?
If so, how do we get them to you?
ryan long
Oh, I actually get a shortage of people sending me random sketch suggestions, so that would help to add to the pile.
lydia smith
I'm sure you have a shortage, yeah.
ryan long
I get so many.
tim pool
Oh my gosh, so many.
How many of them are just really bad?
ryan long
I've used, so I've probably got like thousands.
unidentified
Wow.
ryan long
And I only really, I only respond to people that send message on the Patreon just because it's too much.
tim pool
I got one, dude.
ryan long
But I have one that I used that someone sent me an idea.
tim pool
This is going to be good.
Okay.
lydia smith
That's good.
tim pool
You are Donald Trump.
And you eat a bag, you're trying to eat a bag of Cheetos, but your hands are too small to grab them.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
And you're like, I can't pick them up with my tiny hands.
tim pool
It would be so funny.
Everybody would be like, that's so original.
ryan long
And it should be happening at the divorce court because Ivanka's filing for divorce because I might PN was too small.
tim pool
I mean, I gotta be honest.
That would actually be funny because you're actually making fun of the woke left or the resistance and not actually Donald Trump.
So that actually might work.
ryan long
Maybe.
We'll see.
unidentified
Don't actually make fun of him.
tim pool
Felipe says, I mean, the bit works now because we're making fun of them.
Felipe says, I'd like to get your thoughts on a video, an excerpt from a book.
The video was called How to Rule Mankind by Liberty Pen.
If you get a chance, please share your thoughts.
I think it's what's going on now.
Interesting.
I'll check it out.
Let's see.
Jesse Stigler says, from your video today, don't you remember de Blasio on the radio asking to help him redistribute wealth on radio?
I don't remember that.
Help me tax the wealthy, help me redistribute wealth.
If you go to the hill and cop... Oh, wow.
That's crazy.
Sam Beasley says, right-wing tyranny is exclusive.
This is ours and you can't have it.
Left-wing tyranny is inclusive.
This is for everyone and you can't refuse it.
Interesting.
Ty Chapman says, check out Trump's latest tweet about Wisconsin.
Oh, really?
lydia smith
How about we look up Trump's tweet and see what just happened?
tim pool
I accidentally typed in TWET, but it doesn't matter because Google still works.
Oh, interesting.
He says, look at this in Wisconsin.
A day after the election, Biden receives a dump of 143,379 votes at 3.42 a.m.
when they learned he was losing badly.
This is unbelievable.
ryan long
Told you there was an upper decker.
lydia smith
Oh, snap.
You weren't kidding.
unidentified
What is this?
lydia smith
Oh, my goodness.
tim pool
Did they?
Is the official explanation that they counted all the ballots immediately at once and then just loaded them all in?
I don't know.
lydia smith
Look for the Twitter fact check.
tim pool
Look, all of this stuff is really is interesting and I'd like to see where it ends up.
But if they don't, like, if they can't win in court, they can't win.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
We'll see.
We'll see how things play out.
All right, let's see.
What do we got here in the Super Chats?
RayLeonard13 says, there is a reason why CNN has the popular vote indicator on full time next to COVID numbers to help convince people subtly that Trump lost no matter what is happening or will happen.
Interesting.
James Andrew Lewis says, Hey Tim, long time listener.
Loved your latest show with Alex Jones.
Insane and hilarious.
You mentioned needing a web dev.
Let's chat.
Yes, definitely.
But I were like paralyzed from the lockdowns coming in.
So I don't know what we can do and when we'll be able to do it.
Like it's almost impossible to run a business these days.
Whoa, what's this?
Oh, Naylor Holanda sent a... what are these, rubles?
I can't tell what... I don't know, it says R. It's an R and a dollar sign, whatever that is.
But retracted, unfortunately.
lydia smith
Thank you, thank you.
tim pool
Anthony Sommer says, Tim, these news networks obviously have zero credibility.
I don't know if they will run out of content necessarily.
It is possible they will make up unhinged, fear-mongering articles and other content to support their ideologies.
lydia smith
Possible.
tim pool
And then there's this one, Bill Maher is the internet explorer of comedians.
Very good!
unidentified
Good stuff.
lydia smith
Very true.
tim pool
Politically Defiant says, Hollywood, sports, and other high-end celebrities that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars scream that more taxes are needed, won't pay it themselves, and don't start their own businesses to hire fellow Americans who help them become wealthy celebs.
That is correct.
American Honesty says, Ohio recently implemented a 21-day curfew from 10 p.m.
to 5 a.m.
Our governor is ridiculous.
People are rebelling, and I'm going shopping after 10 p.m.
from now on.
Crazy.
Wow, man.
I don't know about all that.
You heard about Trump firing, you know, a bunch of these like top security people?
was prep when if when slash if he loses as a way of keeping a foot in the door
by having the Durham investigation into Biden so he can't appoint new people I
don't know about all that you heard about Trump firing you know a bunch of
these like top security people recently yeah this is gonna be a coup because he
just had the acting Secretary of Defense who was just appointed say special
operations will now report directly to him which is like so all these leftists
unidentified
are like this is literally what happens before a military coup
tim pool
Trump's not going to leave.
What do we do?
I don't think the U.S.
works that way, so I don't know what they think's gonna happen.
Trump's just gonna, like, declare himself.
They're gonna be like, okay, sir, right this way out the door.
ryan long
Yeah, they're making crazy predictions for what he's gonna do.
tim pool
What is this?
Eric Olson says, check out Nickelback's cover of The Devil Went Down to Georgia.
I've never actually been interested in listening to a Nickelback song, but I'm actually interested in hearing that.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
That is interesting.
tim pool
Waffle Sensei says, quote, that's like following Google Maps into the ocean.
Ian, that was great.
lydia smith
Yeah, right?
Agreed.
tim pool
Walking into someone because you don't want to be racist.
ian crossland
So funny.
tim pool
Let's see.
Joshua Brogue says, is the left in favor of censorship because they can't step on the twig if twigs are banned?
I want to stop on twigs like Cheeto bags.
No, I don't think that makes sense.
I think a lot of people on the left are in a circular firing squad, you know, like a Mexican standoff, where it's like they're all pointing guns at each other and shaking and like, oh, what do I do?
I can't, you know, I can't stop.
I have to be part of this.
Data Delta says, I'm a CS student, Wisconsin, and made a web app called DataTrackerApp.com.
Tracks COVID-19 death counts across all the states and US.
Does breakdown of age ranges and comorbidities as well.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Interesting.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
L says, Ryan, I just want you to know that you are genuinely funny.
I'm sitting here listening while I work and I keep bursting out laughing.
lydia smith
Very true.
tim pool
Tim, Lydia, Ian, love your guys' work.
Main source of news.
lydia smith
Thank you.
tim pool
Well, you know, when we have Ryan Long on, you're getting only the most serious and important news.
unidentified
All the hot topics.
ryan long
Well, I was literally, when you just said the school shut down, I was literally like, well, who am I going to sell my weed to?
They never stop with me, guys.
tim pool
Are you talking about the grade school children?
unidentified
Didn't New York legalize weed?
ryan long
I was New Jersey, just legalized.
tim pool
Recreational or medicinal?
Recreational, right?
ryan long
So I don't know if they, I think they decriminalized it, but that was a big celebration.
But all that stuff takes a while.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
True.
ryan long
Yeah, they did that in Canada where they like decriminalized everything and it took forever.
And in the meantime, they kind of, it actually made people, things worse for people that were like in the weed industry.
lydia smith
That makes sense.
tim pool
Uh, no.
That's no.
Nope.
It will never be red.
What's this about OANN's story of military seizing a server showing Trump winning 410
electoral votes?
That map showing Trump winning 410, has California read?
lydia smith
I'm not sure.
tim pool
I believe that's a real thing.
Because California is like 65% registered Democrat and like 28% registered Republican
or some tiny number.
So it was read in like 1992 or something like 19, I think it was like the last time it was
like 92 or something like that or 88, I'm not sure.
But, uh, I don't believe that's real.
Here's the bigger issue though.
Right-wing media sources are saying military seized this server in Germany, it was a Spanish server.
And then AP is saying that's fake news, it never happened.
So people are just going to choose what they believe and that's it.
ryan long
I saw a lot of the two with the debunking.
They like just debunk a different thing.
Like someone will be, I think there's that Fleckas dude.
They were like, here's 10,000 names that were wrong or whatever.
And then you saw the people being like, here's debunking.
And they're like, well, there's 15,000 on your debunked list.
So you can't even like trust the debunking.
You don't know what's going on anywhere.
Yeah, it's very difficult.
It's not helping.
And like Fox basically has like gone full Trump's, you know, against Trump, except Tucker Carlson's like sticking to it.
That's weird.
unidentified
We have quite possibly... Can't cock the duck?
tim pool
We have quite possibly the best super chat ever.
ryan long
Nice.
tim pool
I'm somewhat being facetious.
Do you know that reference?
The imagery of Trump disappearing taking all the woke with him reminds me of Goku instant transmitting cell before he
unidentified
No.
tim pool
exploded Do you know that reference?
ryan long
No But uh
It's Dragon Ball Z. I know I said that I knew it was Yeah, that's why I said that's why I said my video like
trying to be a grown white man saying that you like Dragon Ball Z
Cuz I was I used to be a black man before Now furious says is it fair to say there's officially more
tim pool
evidence of impropriety in our election than evidence that Kavanaugh committed
those accusations.
Things that he was accused of.
Yeah, of course.
ryan long
Accused of drinking a couple beers.
lydia smith
That's right.
He likes beer.
tim pool
They pulled up his high school calendar and were like, what's this?
It says beer on it.
It's like, I don't know.
That was 35 years ago.
I was a teenager, dude.
Like, what is this?
Well, you know, we got to find something.
So remember the guy from NASCAR?
I think it was NASCAR whose dad said the N-word in the 80s.
So his sponsors dropped him.
unidentified
Insane.
tim pool
I didn't say anything, dude!
ryan long
Well, your dad said it on the radio.
That'd be good right now.
If TMZ, if you're listening, if you could get an undercover photo of Kavanaugh playing flip cup and they just catch Kavanaugh mid-flipping a cup and looks at the camera just...
tim pool
Chris Dumas says, what do you think about the election going to districts rather than states like Nebraska?
I'm pretty sure if we voted by district, a Democrat would never win again.
ryan long
If, you know, because I'm not smart enough to comment on that.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure there's more Republican districts than Democrat districts.
That's a fact.
Like the Democrat districts are like New York, LA or the counties or whatever.
So if we did it by district, it would be all Republican, basically.
ian crossland
But you would give the districts, like, more representative votes because they're bigger?
tim pool
Well, in Nebraska and Maine, they split their electoral votes by district.
So, like, the urban center in Nebraska gets, like, three electoral votes, and then the rural area gets one electoral vote or something like that.
So if we did that for every state, then it wouldn't be winner-take-all.
It would probably be Republicans winning every single time.
ian crossland
You'd have to break it down to, like, decimals and stuff, just purely by their population if you're gonna do that.
tim pool
I mean, a popular vote?
ian crossland
No, you'd have, like, three in Los Angeles County, .2 in, like, the smaller ones that have 160th of the population and stuff like that.
unidentified
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
tim pool
Andy Mozeka says, Harumph, I say!
I will not impugn the honor of Ryan Long.
JK, thanks for recommending the book Trust Me, I'm Lying by Ryan Holiday.
Do you have any other book recommendations?
ryan long
Ryan?
Um, I just read Art of the Deal over and over again.
unidentified
I go back and forth.
ryan long
One page of Art of the Deal and one page of 48 Laws of Power.
tim pool
They should turn Art of the Deal into a three movie... They should.
ryan long
Oh, I know!
They just made Fast and Furious 7 into a book.
Did they really?
Oh yeah, it's a 45 page chase scene.
I recommend the... Describing the vehicles.
I recommend the book, Fast and Furious 7.
unidentified
Does anybody have any book recommendations?
ryan long
I like Ryan Holiday's stuff, it's good.
James Altucher has a new book, shout out to NJD.
tim pool
Yeah, he was talking about how New York is basically just like a ghost town.
ryan long
Yeah, we talked about that last time.
tim pool
Pablo says, you can't fire based on political beliefs, and you probably aren't allowed to ask.
So many protected classes, you would say the position is filled if they revealed their woke politics in the interview.
No, I think that's only in DC.
I think only DC protects political class or political affiliation for obvious reasons.
If you're in DC and it's like, you're there because you have to be, and then you walk into a restaurant and you're wearing like, you know, your, your Trump hat or whatever.
And they think you can't come in here.
It's like the city wouldn't function.
You know what I mean?
lydia smith
But, but, but I think that's smart because I think that everyone who's should be protected for wearing like a MAGA hat, you should be protected for whatever your political beliefs are.
ryan long
I'm doing a video where I'm getting people on the streets, um, talking about, uh, dudes that got beat up for wearing Trump hats and getting them to admit that they were asking for it for multiple reasons.
unidentified
Asking for it.
lydia smith
Ryan.
tim pool
Let's see.
JW says sworn affidavit filed today in GA state that they witnessed thousands of ballots being counted, all with machine printed bubbles being filled out for Biden.
Yeah, the Dominion voting machines can actually re, like, can change ballots.
And, I mean, it does make sense to, you know, to a certain degree, but, like, shouldn't we just vote paper ballots and just, like, have them physically?
So the way Canada does it is that they count the paper with people watching them do it from, like, different parties, and then they all agree on what the number is, and that's the only number ever, and then they report that number all together.
All staring at each other like, it was 17,326.
Really?
Well then there's no way, that's the safest way to do it.
ryan long
Interesting.
tim pool
Because, you can't lie because I'm standing next to you, and then the number gets transmitted to, you know, like, to the guy who adds the number, and you have all this scrutiny.
Right now the problem is, they watch the vote, put it in the machine, the machine does who knows what, and then the machine transmits it to who knows where.
Or they put it on the tape, they put it on the machine and walk away.
If you actually have people scrutinizing it, and you have the paper ballots, someone could be like, that's not true, wasn't that number?
Count it again.
You're being challenged by other political interests.
ian crossland
Takes too long, though.
tim pool
Yeah, that's not true.
ian crossland
Paper ballot counting, and then a recount, and then if the paper gets wet or burned, they're gone forever.
ryan long
Have you ever counted money?
tim pool
Do you know how counting works?
It's all decentralized.
So if 100 people in one district come in and they count, they go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 100.
Then they report that by county.
So there are some counties where it takes a little bit longer, but they can count it super quick.
It's not like one guy or like 10 people are counting 5 million ballots.
They're counting like maybe a few thousand.
And then in most counties where you have smaller populations, it's not even the entirety of the city.
You might have 30,000 people in one city, but it's, you know, it's like... I don't want animals counting my ballot.
ian crossland
I want machine tallying it for me.
tim pool
Machines that are made by animals.
So they're less reliable.
ian crossland
Like a blockchain.
tim pool
Less reliable.
ian crossland
I don't want a proprietary computer doing it.
No, it's more reliable than a monkey carrying a piece of paper.
tim pool
So what happens if I just go in and change and add a bunch of fake votes?
ian crossland
It would show on the chain.
tim pool
They would see on the chain that in Herman District or whatever, there was 7,000 votes for Biden.
You'd be like, I guess that's real.
ian crossland
I can't challenge it.
And 370 of them were changed on Tuesday.
tim pool
No, it wouldn't.
ian crossland
That would show it on the chain.
tim pool
Grandma Sherry doesn't know that she voted or didn't vote because you just took her information out of her mailbox and then voted, now it's on the blockchain.
ian crossland
It's up to Sherry to check her vote.
tim pool
So that means I can steal Sherry who's not interested.
ian crossland
And you can do that today, too.
tim pool
Exactly.
ian crossland
But I'm not saying it's perfect, I'm just saying it's better.
tim pool
Here's the best part.
They go and audit the hard paper ballot and say, hey, wait a minute, and they can challenge them.
ian crossland
Dude, the ballots are on...
tim pool
That's why it should be on paper!
ian crossland
Security, it's better to be secure than insecure.
And what if someone steals the memory card?
tim pool
And there's no record?
ian crossland
Then it's gone forever, but if it's on the blockchain, people can't steal it.
them they're gone forever and what if someone steals the memory card?
tim pool
There's no record.
And like the three counties already that didn't upload.
ian crossland
And it's gone forever but if it's on the blockchain people can't steal it.
tim pool
So when people forge ballots then it's on the blockchain forever too?
ian crossland
I guess so but it's up to you to check.
tim pool
The big problem right now is two things.
There's an audit saying that a bunch of Republican absentee bouts never got received, and there's challenges that a bunch of people had voted in states they don't live in anymore, which some people suspect now was someone filling out bouts on their behalf to get extra votes.
ian crossland
Definitely check your name.
If you lived in another state in the last year, you should check to make sure you didn't get voted for in that state.
That's up on you, though.
tim pool
In Canada, they're like bragging on Twitter that they use paper ballots only with scrutineers who are watching, and then they all count the ballots together and it never gets entered into a machine and the numbers are all confirmed by multiple people.
And it's funny because you have all these leftists saying Canada's the way to do it, and Canada's like, oh actually, we have voter ID laws and we're way more secure than you.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, let's see what we got.
D.S.
says Trump is the new punk rock.
Flowification says if the Patriot was in 2020, the left smacks gavel.
Our first order of business, the right.
And our last if we vote a Biden, distressed partisan noises.
Wasn't the vote for the levy, wasn't the guy they wanted to go to war?
They wanted to levy war.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So it's the other way around.
The left would be like, and our last, if we vote for Biden.
Anthony, or I guess, oh, I guess it's the point, like their last order of business, they all die.
I see what I see.
Yeah.
Anthony Pica says, listening to one of your previous IRLs, start the Beanie Club and steal Lauder with Clowder business model, partner with Blaze, have people sign up, then get an authentic Tim beanie.
Would love to wear one while I drink out of my LWC mug.
You know why I'm never gonna join any one of these networks ever?
lydia smith
Why?
ryan long
Why would you?
tim pool
Right now, TimCastIRL is ranked like number 106 on iTunes for like top podcasts.
unidentified
That's right, baby!
tim pool
And the Tim Pool Daily Show is number 34, I think.
unidentified
46.
lydia smith
No, it's up.
tim pool
It's 34.
lydia smith
Oh, really?
Okay, cool.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's completely independent.
I have no boss.
I have no companies.
I don't even really have any sponsors.
I have no sponsor contracts or anything like that.
I literally just do what I want to do and when I want to do it.
And then all of these, like I tell you man, these companies will be like, we want to sign you.
Here's your deliverables, here's what you have to do.
I'm like, I don't want to do that.
That's work.
ryan long
It really does mess with your flow, like what you're doing.
I've had so many people where I've taken a little thing and you have to really set it up where you go,
listen, this is my system.
It's a really take it or leave it.
Because they'll push it and then they'll go, okay, well what about if you do this?
Like, it's no big deal.
Can we just make one revision?
Like, oh, we'll just make one cut.
And all those things just add to your, like, perfect workflow that you've created.
tim pool
Right.
ryan long
And it just stops what you're able to do.
tim pool
More and more work.
And then you have to wonder, why is it that they want to sign you in the first place?
ryan long
Slows you down.
tim pool
Because they think they're going to make more money off of you.
And so I'm like, listen, dude, if I've done this on my own for a long time and I have a top podcast, I don't need anything from you.
You can't offer me anything.
ryan long
Well, the question is, that's what it is.
Can they add value?
I mean, I met with like a thousand YouTube agencies and they would talk for half an hour
and I would finish and be like, can you explain to me in one sentence what you do?
I'm like, what are you talking about?
lydia smith
What are you talking about?
ryan long
To be fair.
You know, synergy and we can, you know, we'll be like the algorithms and we're able to do this and monetize this.
And I'm like, so what, what do you do?
What are you talking about?
tim pool
I have had recently a meeting with a YouTube agency that said here's what I want to do for you and I said no and then they were like what if we do this I said you're still not doing anything for me and then I said here's what we're gonna do you get nothing of mine But whatever you make you get a percentage of and they said deal and I was like, oh, well, there we go Yeah, so now we're working out the deals the details is basically because I have no Facebook presence I like don't do anything with Facebook at all and I've got four hours of content and they're like Why aren't you uploading this and I was like cuz I don't know and they're like, okay We'll take care of that for a lot.
There we go.
ryan long
See, you know, it's funny I literally just had the exact same thing and Facebook's the only one because they are monetizing it but you kind of are like I don't know what's going on over there.
It's very hard to grow, but a lot of these people... It's true.
Well, they figured it out because of the cross-posting, right?
tim pool
It's not just that, it's that... I'll tell you the scam.
Facebook is... Look, on YouTube, I can put up a 20-minute video, and people will watch it and listen to it.
On Facebook, what works is like a two-minute video.
ryan long
So that means... No, it has to be more than three to monetize.
tim pool
Yeah, well, like a three-minute video.
I just mean like it's much, much shorter.
It's like a bit.
ryan long
They would love it to be like that, but it's not.
tim pool
Well, so what works then is if I do 20 minutes, they're like seven segments.
And I'm like, I'm not going to render seven different segments.
No, that sounds horrible.
I'm not going to put the graphics on it.
They'll do it because they know they can make bank off that.
And I'm like, well, there you go.
I'm not going to hire a team to deal with this.
lydia smith
No, I can't.
I'm sorry, guys.
I can't do it.
tim pool
So yeah, man.
ryan long
That's what the audition's like.
Louis had a story like this, but it does happen where someone's like, hey, we want you to be in this thing, the director wants you to do the read, and you go, okay, yeah, and then you don't do it.
And then they go, oh, they extended it, and you go, eh, and then eventually they call you and they're like, all right, they just want you to do it, you don't have to do any of that stuff anymore.
tim pool
Yes, perfect.
I am Darwin's God says Tim.
GIF stands for graphics interchange format.
That means a G like a gift, not a G like giraffe.
Except the guy who invented it said that it is a soft J on purpose to mean that it was in a gif.
It was in a fast.
The guy who invented it named it something.
End of story.
It's weird to me that there are people who are deciding, I have authority over what someone did.
It's too much to me like the SJWs trying to change language because they think it sounds better.
If you invent something and call it something, someone else coming up and be like, actually, I'm gonna rename it.
I'm like, it's so dumb.
ian crossland
Wait, he invented the graphic interface format?
tim pool
The guy who invented the graphical interchange format said it's pronounced Jif.
ian crossland
If someone builds, creates something and then calls it the wrong thing, you don't have to keep calling it the wrong thing.
What if someone builds like a new shovel and they're like, this is my giraffe.
And you're like, that's not a giraffe, that's a shovel.
It's a type of shovel.
He's like, yeah, but I'm gonna call it a giraffe.
Well, then he's an idiot.
It's a shovel.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
If you create a shovel and you call it a giraffe, that's your prerogative to call your invention.
ian crossland
And it's also not a giraffe, it's a shovel.
tim pool
First of all, he didn't invent the shovel if it's just a shovel.
If he makes a special proprietary shovel called giraffe... A giraffe shovel, yeah.
Like the Slap Chop.
ian crossland
Yeah, or like the Red Tips.
tim pool
We just named it.
Or Flex Tape, or whatever.
Is that what it's called?
unidentified
Flex Tape?
ian crossland
Yeah, Flex Tape.
tim pool
Yeah, Flex Tape.
No, it's not Flex Tape.
It's not even adhesive.
It's a plastic, you know, adherent structure.
He's an idiot for naming it Flex Tape!
It's like, dude, if you make something, you name something, fine, I don't care.
You know what's really annoying to me right now is that they're trying to change the name of a skateboard trick because the guy, like, it's offensive.
It's just like, dude, the guy who invented it said it's called a GIF, and people are like, yeah, but it's a hard G. It's like, well, dude.
ian crossland
So when you're saying, what's the skateboard trick?
tim pool
The mute grab.
unidentified
Oh, come on.
tim pool
Tony Hawk said it's got to be called something else because it's offensive because they were calling a guy mute when they were teenagers 40 years ago.
ian crossland
That's so funny.
40 years ago!
The guy they named it after said, I would prefer you changed it.
tim pool
But it doesn't mean anything to anybody.
ian crossland
He's not actually mute.
tim pool
He was deaf.
And so they said, he did a trick and they called it, they named it after the mute guy, they said.
And so now it's 40 something years later and they're like, Every video game.
Every piece of media.
Every reference ever.
Gone.
unidentified
Boo.
tim pool
Because we don't like it.
ian crossland
Is a soft G guh or juh?
Juh.
I thought that was the hard G. That's soft.
I must add that backwards.
tim pool
G. Or actually I think it's ya.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
No, it's jif.
So it's yif?
Soft y. It's yif.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
lydia smith
No, it's not yif.
tim pool
Anyway.
lydia smith
Anyway.
ryan long
No, there's been no shortage of changing words and you just go like, er, yeah, whatever.
lydia smith
Whatever.
ryan long
Eventually.
ian crossland
I'll admit, I still don't know if it's jif or gif.
tim pool
It's jif.
ian crossland
I just can't.
lydia smith
It's yif.
ryan long
I don't know if it's ju or u. I can't remember.
tim pool
How is it that the guy who invented it said it and they're like, no!
I refuse to accept you invented it and named it something.
lydia smith
I won't accept it.
tim pool
I keep thinking of magic, giant magic wizards.
ian crossland
Richard Stallman, who made it, made Gnu's Not Unix.
He basically made a Unix thing.
He made a software based off of Unix called, and he called it GNU, G-N-U, and it stood for Gnu's Not Unix.
But GNU is the word new.
It's an animal.
So he called his software GNU, and he mispronounced it just to have fun with people.
tim pool
So it's GNU.
ian crossland
And it's never selling.
If you were like, it's GNU software, people would be like, wow.
tim pool
If it was phonetic, it'd be GNU.
ian crossland
Well, the animal called it GNU.
tim pool
It's really funny when people are like, is it a Jolden retriever?
I'm like, is it a giant?
Like, dude, the GI makes the J sound like a Kamala thing.
ian crossland
It's a GNU.
tim pool
GNU is pronounced GNU.
ian crossland
He wanted to call his GNU GNU.
ryan long
Well, remember with the Kamala stuff, like how many people have, there's all these articles being like, well, I know it's like, they go, it's racist if you say, I know, because it's, It's very hard for me to say.
I can barely say the normal words, right?
And that's how you would say that word.
But the same way that when I go to my bodega guy underneath me, he goes, Rianne!
He knows my name is Ryan, but it's like, in his whatever language he speaks, that's like... Whatever language?
tim pool
Excuse me, sir?
ryan long
Yeah!
Whatever gibberish!
Desert language this man speaks.
unidentified
Galbadigu.
ryan long
I don't, listen, I don't speak bodega speak.
tim pool
It's true, that's fair.
The guy's actually just American.
ryan long
Bodenglish.
tim pool
It's an Italian- it's an Italian-American accent.
ryan long
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, what are you doing?
ryan long
I don't speak bodega.
I don't speak your language, sir.
Bodega-stanny, or whatever.
tim pool
This is a midwestern accent.
ryan long
Yes.
tim pool
Arian don't you know we got donuts today.
ryan long
That's Canadian.
tim pool
Well I guess it's close to Minnesota.
ryan long
Oh yeah.
I did that catcalling video and I was saying the Canadian catcalling is oh there she is.
Instead of like yeah girl what's up the Canadians go oh there she is.
tim pool
And then they apologize right away?
unidentified
Yeah, then they go, oh, it's okay, sorry, no, it's okay.
tim pool
The apology jokes.
Everybody, thanks for hanging out.
If you haven't already, smash the like button.
lydia smith
Please.
tim pool
And subscribe.
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Check out my other YouTube channels, youtube.com slash TimCast and youtube.com slash TimCastNews.
And, Ryan, thanks for hanging out.
ryan long
Yes!
tim pool
You're our president for The Boys.
ryan long
Running for The Boys, and you can listen to my podcast, The Boys Cast, every Friday.
And you want to follow me at youtube.com slash ryanlongcomedy.
A new video out every Monday, street video most Wednesdays, and podcast every Friday.
tim pool
So your YouTube channel is basically, you know, President for the Boys.
You're basically a white, cis, heteronormative, patriarchist YouTube channel.
lydia smith
Indeed, yes.
That's what it sounds like to me.
ryan long
You know, you are a white male, but I will say that a lot of people think that, you know, I'm maybe like would-be racist, sexist, transphobic, when in actuality I'm just sexist.
So there's a big misconception.
There's, you know, there's lots of different races of people that are for the boys supporting Ryan Long.
tim pool
Right on.
And, you know, Ian's hanging out.
ian crossland
Ian Crossland, you know me.
Hey, Ryan.
ryan long
Still same old Ian.
You know, just the guy.
ian crossland
I'm surprised Netflix hasn't co-opted you yet.
ryan long
Yeah.
Well, a lot of stuff's been down because of COVID.
tim pool
But I have to imagine they're scared of your comedy.
ryan long
No, if they did like a degenerate.
tim pool
Feminist mom or whatever.
My mom would make a college segment where she's like, just like really awful and talking about banging dudes and stuff.
ryan long
Yeah, no, they all, a lot of these people, you know, like kind of reach out.
I have like a manager and they kind of like reach out and a lot of these people like me.
tim pool
So the SpongeBob thing was funny.
ryan long
Thank you.
I'm working on a I'm working on a movie actually is probably my big thing.
But the truth is, like, there's no comedy right now.
So I only moved to America three months before all this stuff.
So it's hard for me.
There is no like, culture and mix for that stuff.
But so I'm doing my own thing.
And I think I'm going to potentially do a movie.
And that's what I'm figuring out.
tim pool
People don't know this, but you're originally from?
He's from Bangkok, Thailand.
Born and raised in Thailand.
ryan long
You are what you do.
You're from what you do.
That's what they say.
tim pool
Then moved to America.
ryan long
Tim's from Bendover.
It's a new place.
unidentified
It's beside Bangkok.
ryan long
He has his passport and he keeps it with him.
tim pool
Yeah, what you were saying, you're doing a movie?
ryan long
No, but yeah, I might do that stuff.
But right now I'm like super busy.
So it's kind of one of those things where as soon as stand up starts back up like properly, I have another special that I am going to record and it's yet to be known where that will end up.
ian crossland
Do you think they're going to do what they're doing with basketball and put like fake video crowds in?
tim pool
Oh, they already do.
They're putting them in rooms like they're playing basketball in like a closed room now.
ryan long
What they're gonna do at the basketball game?
Disrespect our flag, Ian.
Is that what you mean?
ian crossland
Take a meal, yeah.
That's what I'm hoping.
tim pool
Dude, American culture, everything that we've held as a pastime is just gone.
Basketball is becoming boring because there's no audience and nobody is into it anymore.
Baseball, same thing.
Dude, putting the weird cardboard people in the baseball stadiums is the creepiest thing.
ian crossland
It's like digital, it's digital.
tim pool
No, no, a lot of them just put cardboard people.
Oh, they put real cardboard?
ryan long
That's racist, I just say Indians.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, okay.
tim pool
Look at this guy.
White cis heteronormative patriarchy.
ryan long
Yes.
Well, anyway, if you do want to go to the white cis channel, it is, uh, but I'm Canadian and, uh, so it's okay then because you have Trudeau, not Trump.
I say on stage that I'm allowed to do a joke about race.
I'm actually mixed race.
I'm half Irish, half English.
So there you go.
It's all better now.
It's all fine.
I'm from a faraway land.
Listen, me and your parents would get me immigrants, but these guys don't get immigrants.
They don't know what it's like to move to this country with nothing but a backpack and a strap and a book, Pinocchio style.
Just me with a leather strap around my Art of the Deal.
It guided you.
unidentified
It brought you home.
ryan long
Exactly.
One apple.
tim pool
You can also follow Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
You can.
You can follow me.
Sour Patch Lids.
L-Y-D-S.
ryan long
Hot follow.
I recommend it.
lydia smith
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, Ryan.
I appreciate that.
ryan long
Yeah.
tim pool
So, uh, can we go to bed now?
unidentified
Is that it?
tim pool
It's time to go.
ryan long
Well, no, I have a meeting with that half pipe to get my revenge.
tim pool
Is your skin just like stuck to one of the screws now?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
There's lots of my, this guy is like, I'm going to slide down the six foot and then he like cut himself.
ryan long
Yeah.
That's your fault.
Once we pull the soap shoes back out.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
It's going to be crazy.
You just run off and you'd like put your feet there and then it's like, The best trigger.
ryan long
I was like, where are the boards?
And he's like, it's a parkour course, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a halfpipe, but it's for rollerblades, man.
Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We'll be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.
ryan long
live.
tim pool
Smash the like button on your way out, subscribe, notification bell, and we will see you all tomorrow.
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