Nov. 4, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
04:26:37
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unidentified
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You You two broke | |
| Don't blame me. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I'm chilling. | ||
| I'm having a drink. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| So we were live just a moment ago, and then all of a sudden it was not live. | ||
| And then you probably just realized the weird thing just happened. | ||
| Whatever, man. | ||
| We're chilling. | ||
| What I was saying is that tonight could be the night it all ends. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| And we know if Trump's going to get another four years, or Joe Biden is going to win, and then we'll see what happens with the House. | ||
| And we got, we got a bunch of updates. | ||
| I mean, the big update right now is that New York Times is essentially, I don't want to say called it, but predicted it for Trump. | ||
| They're saying there's a greater than 95% chance that Donald Trump will take Florida. | ||
| Oh snap. | ||
| This is going to be hilarious. | ||
| I didn't see that. | ||
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unidentified
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What's going on? | |
| Less than 0.2% difference. | ||
| Well yeah, so basically the way it works is right now Florida, the votes that have come in so far are for Biden for the most part. | ||
| But based on the remaining districts and the polls and the projections, Florida is saying with 82% reporting, there is a Trump 3.3% advantage, giving him a greater than 95% chance of winning. | ||
| Now in Georgia, Trump has got a 77% chance of winning. | ||
| And in North Carolina, a 66% chance for Biden. | ||
| So we're just going to chill and throughout the night, random people are going to walk in and start talking about stuff because we got a bunch of random people. | ||
| So, hey, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| And what is this? | ||
| YouTube is not receiving. | ||
| Whatever, man. | ||
| The Internet is giving me the business. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Tonight is a chill night. | ||
| So cheers, everybody. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| We have two lovely ladies I want to introduce. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| I have Carrie Smith over here in front of you. | ||
| Hello, Carrie. | ||
| She's lovely. | ||
| Thanks for having me back. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Welcome to the party. | ||
| We have Cassandra over here in the corner with her little Trump flag. | ||
| She has three Trump flags. | ||
| She has so many Trump flags. | ||
| I have four. | ||
| That's who she's rooting for, you guys. | ||
| I was asking where are the Biden flags. | ||
| Oh yeah, she was voting. | ||
| Nobody likes Biden. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I don't think anyone in this house wants Biden to win. | ||
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unidentified
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Nope. | |
| I can't remember who said it, they were like, at the very least someone might want Trump to not win, but nobody wants Biden to win. | ||
| I just want him to be able to retire. | ||
| Oh wait, did they just call Marilyn? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're calling Maryland. | ||
| Oh no, Maryland is gone for Biden. | ||
| Who would have thought? | ||
| Who would have thought? | ||
| Yeah, crazy. | ||
| They called New Jersey, too. | ||
| New Jersey? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Oh, and Alabama. | ||
| It's all over. | ||
| Alabama for Trump. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Not surprising. | ||
| This is pretty fast, huh? | ||
| It seems early, doesn't it? | ||
| Mississippi for Trump. | ||
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unidentified
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For a lot of states. | |
| The East Coast states. | ||
| We got a few states for Trump. | ||
| We're going to read a lot of Super Chats. | ||
| We're just going to chill and hang out. | ||
| That will be my job. | ||
| Yeah, so, um, but while we're chillin', you know, here, here, pull up the, pull up the, uh, the, the, the meters we have here. | ||
| Go, you know the thing? | ||
| Just because, yeah, go, you know the thing, right? | ||
| So look at this, we got some data for everybody. | ||
| Oh my gosh, you guys, look at this nonsense. | ||
| So this is, this is what, um, this is what the New York Times has so far for the states that have not been called yet, and it's really interesting. | ||
| Florida looks like it's going Trump, and, uh, Republicans did really well in Miami. | ||
| They didn't win Miami, but they did really well, which is surprising. | ||
| I'm not surprised. | ||
| You're surprised? | ||
| You're not surprised? | ||
| I'm not, and here's why, because, oh, I don't have a camera. | ||
| Ooh, mysterious. | ||
| So I think that my, I'm not surprised that Miami might go for Trump, hopefully, because so many of the people there are from, you know, socialist countries. | ||
| Yeah, or fled them, or a family who did. | ||
| So check this out. | ||
| What outcomes in these three states mean for the presidential race? | ||
| The New York Times says the greatest likelihood of outcomes is that either... This is interesting. | ||
| There's a 32% chance Trump wins all three states, and a 48% chance of saying that Trump wins two of them and Biden wins one, and a 20% chance Biden wins two. | ||
| There's actually a really good chance that Trump wins all three of these states. | ||
| What they're projecting is that a Biden win is likely in one of the states, and Trump will need the Midwest to keep his chances alive. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| But anyway, I'm not gonna be hanging out here for the most part. | ||
| We're gonna have a bunch of random people come in and talk about whatever they want, because, you know, I'm trying to be a good host. | ||
| We've got a ski ball thing downstairs. | ||
| Everybody's having fun, and some people are biting their nails, sweating bullets, terrified about the memes that will be made of their horrifying reactions tonight if Trump loses. | ||
| Are you terrified? | ||
| I won't be on stream during this. | ||
| You're gonna let go, huh? | ||
| She's gonna be off in a little corner. | ||
| I just think everybody needs to laugh a little bit. | ||
| If Joe Biden wins, just laugh. | ||
| But we have Carrie joining us to start. | ||
| And Carrie is a liberal. | ||
| I am still a liberal, yes. | ||
| But I voted for Trump. | ||
| So I'm a bit of a reluctant deplorable, is what I like to call it. | ||
| You chose to be a deplorable. | ||
| I did, after long consideration. | ||
| Four years. | ||
| And actually, Cassandra is one of the people I was watching with curiosity. | ||
| Because I voted for Biden in 2016 and you were someone I was watching because I thought, okay, she was also for, not for Biden, sorry, for Bernie. | ||
| She was also for Bernie. | ||
| And then she went over to Trump and it was really confusing for me at first. | ||
| And my process was just a bit slower. | ||
| You consider yourself an SJW? | ||
| I was for about 20 years. | ||
| So part of the reason I voted for Trump is because I came to the realization that my ideology was not liberalism. | ||
| I thought it was. | ||
| I thought I was a liberal, but I actually was pushing racism and sexism in the name of ending those things. | ||
| And my old belief system has pretty much taken over the whole party. | ||
| So when I look at the candidates, I think Trump is the most liberal option. | ||
| He's against critical race theory. | ||
| He's against collectivism. | ||
| He's against all the things that that I used to push with good intention that I now think are corrupting and evil. | ||
| So. | ||
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unidentified
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Yep. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's funny that liberals are right wing now. | ||
| Look, I know a lot of people, and I know because of the nature of what I do now, I'm more likely to meet people like myself, like liberals and progressives who have left the Democratic Party. | ||
| But I really do, my gut tells me that there's a large number of people, that it's not just my little perspective, that there are truly a lot of people who have walked away. | ||
| I know several progressives who just voted for Trump. | ||
| Whoa, really? | ||
| Yes! | ||
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unidentified
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That's amazing. | |
| Secretly? | ||
| Secretly? | ||
| No! | ||
| Well, a couple of them secretly. | ||
| And they're texting me and they're saying, I feel kind of gross. | ||
| But kind of elated. | ||
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unidentified
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It's a strong mix. | |
| You know what felt really good? | ||
| I live in New Jersey, so it was a mail-in ballot. | ||
| And I had to fill in a little of that with a pen. | ||
| But every little swivel of that pen felt like a big slap in the face F you to the establishment. | ||
| It was enjoyable. | ||
| It really was. | ||
| Quite so. | ||
| I just realized something. | ||
| I think, except for maybe Lydia, everyone here is a Democrat to deplorable. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Oh wow. | ||
| No? | ||
| No? | ||
| I got a head shake. | ||
| No? | ||
| Always been deplorable. | ||
| Always been deplorable. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| So it's probably like 80-20 here. | ||
| You're OG deplorable? | ||
| Me too. | ||
| You can't see, but Jack Murphy is hanging out. | ||
| His lovely wife is here, yeah. | ||
| No one can see you. | ||
| But we got a lot of people, like Ian's sitting in the room. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, we're chilling. | |
| Eventually, we're gonna... Actually, I don't know if we're gonna be able to pull the camera out. | ||
| I want to. | ||
| I'd like to. | ||
| I don't really want to switch all night, but we'll see what we can do. | ||
| Yeah, we're gonna get one camera, like, in the corner so you can see the whole room. | ||
| We'll see, we'll see. | ||
| And then just have people chilling, hanging out and stuff. | ||
| We're chilling. | ||
| But yeah, like, not everybody... No, no, Lauren Chen's here. | ||
| That's true, yeah. | ||
| Brett also, lifelong Republican. | ||
| Pretty conservative, yeah. | ||
| Andrew just walked in. | ||
| Andrew, did you used to be a liberal? | ||
| Are you still a liberal? | ||
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unidentified
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No, never. | |
| You were never a liberal? | ||
| Cool, cool, cool. | ||
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unidentified
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I was wrong! | |
| How dare you? | ||
| We got a how dare you early on. | ||
| Come on, guys. | ||
| Drinking with the Trump flag does not seem easy. | ||
| No, it's not, but it's worth it. | ||
| It's worth it. | ||
| So, uh, I don't know. | ||
| Actually, we, we, we haven't talked about you leaving the left. | ||
| Cause you did a long time ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I left during the primaries, um, I think, yeah, it was the beginning of 2016. | ||
| It was before Bernie dropped out, but you could tell that he was going to drop out. | ||
| Um, and I switched and, but how, like why you were, you were so for Bernie and then all of a sudden you voted for Trump. | ||
| Well, I could see that he was getting ready to endorse Hillary Clinton, and I thought that it was rigged. | ||
| And she always struck me as a war pig. | ||
| She was basically John McCain in a lipstick and a dress. | ||
| And that was everything that I opposed. | ||
| And so one day I was hanging out with Noam Chomsky, ironically, in Boston, and we were talking about free speech and why it's so important. | ||
| He's been horrible on Trump, but I took a very different thing away from my conversation with him that day. | ||
| So we were talking about free speech and war and things like that. | ||
| And I went back to my hotel room, I went and saw this band Glassjaw play, went back to my hotel, had a few drinks with me, and I was just like, you know what? | ||
| I'm voting for Trump. | ||
| And then my drunk butt started tweeting, I'm voting for Trump. | ||
| And then you were locked in. | ||
| But were you doing that because you were mad at Hillary? | ||
| It was a little bit of both. | ||
| I mean, Hillary Clinton wanted to drone Julian Assange and everybody knows that I'm a very passionate WikiLeaks supporter. | ||
| So there was that. | ||
| I disliked her for that reason. | ||
| I also disliked a lot of the rhetoric that was coming from her about, like, being tougher on Russia and tougher, you know, with Syria and things like that. | ||
| So all the things that I used to think were the most important to me and that were leftist ideals, like free speech and being anti-intervention, were now being represented by the other side. | ||
| So I felt like the Democratic Party kind of left my beliefs not out for me. | ||
| It's really funny. | ||
| Glenn Greenwald tweeted about this recently, something about the Democrats or the progressives who are voting for the Democratic Party who are going to get a swift lesson in what their support is actually worth to them once they no longer need their votes. | ||
| And then the example he used was how the anti-war, like anti-corporatist kind of thing, movement dried up as soon as Obama won. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was me. | ||
| That was like when I was, you know, becoming an adult and looking at politics. | ||
| And I had all these people around me cheering me on, like, yeah, war is bad, right? | ||
| And I'm like, yeah. | ||
| And they're like, come on, come with us. | ||
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unidentified
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Come vote. | |
| And I'm like, yeah. | ||
| And then I vote. | ||
| And they're like, later. | ||
| And I was like, wait, what? | ||
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unidentified
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But what about the war? | |
| I could recite Obama's speeches by heart. | ||
| Like the one about like hope and change and stuff and I was so adamantly anti-bush because I was anti-war. | ||
| I mean I had shirts like anti-bush shirts that would get me visits from feds if I tweeted out pictures. | ||
| But I then I was like okay great yeah Obama let's do it and then within a year he's like Worse than Bush, almost. | ||
| And all the people who protested at Bush with me were like, yeah, this guy's great. | ||
| I was one of those people. | ||
| I quit paying attention because I hated W so much. | ||
| I was like you. | ||
| I joined a running club in Los Angeles called Run Against Bush. | ||
| And all we did was run off our angst and our anger with anti-Bush shirts. | ||
| But I paid attention. | ||
| I paid attention to the way that CNN was selling us the war, you know, and I I was more awake. | ||
| And then as soon as Obama got in, I voted for him twice, I was one of those people who quit paying attention. | ||
| The second time? | ||
| And the second time I voted for him as well. | ||
| I just basically was like, okay, there's somebody driving who I like, and then I checked out. | ||
| And I know a ton of people like me who did that. | ||
| I did not. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Donald Trump has a popular vote lead right now. | ||
| He does indeed. | ||
| Not that it matters. | ||
| He does. | ||
| But he does. | ||
| By 0.2% of the total votes counted so far. | ||
| It's meaningless. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| They got to count urban centers and everything. | ||
| I just think it's funny to be like, wow, he's down. | ||
| He's down 30 electoral votes. | ||
| Joe Biden's at 85 to Trump's 55. | ||
| But Trump has a small lead of 0.4% lead in popular vote count. | ||
| Isn't that interesting? | ||
| It is interesting. | ||
| So Carrie, what did you do in 2016? | ||
| I was one of those people who cried the night that I came on. | ||
| Yeah, I was wondering if I would cry tonight for different reasons, but I actually, you know, I don't really... Could you imagine being wrong twice? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think what we're facing is a cultural problem. | ||
| It's like a philosophy problem. | ||
| And so I sort of don't know if it's going to matter that much who wins. | ||
| I hope that Trump wins. | ||
| I think he will slow it down. | ||
| But ultimately, I think Even if Trump wins, we're going to wake up tomorrow and we're still going to be fighting this belief system that is taking us backwards, that says the way to cure the world's ills is by putting us all in groups, is with collectivism instead of individualism. | ||
| I think it's remarkable that you could simply ask any one of these people, the average person, do you agree with Dr. King's dream? | ||
| And they'll tell you yes. | ||
| And then if you ask them about the current state of progressive activism and leftism, they'll agree with that too, which you can't do. | ||
| You can't do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're literally the opposites of each other. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So progressives, like the hardcore activists, progressives I know, straight up tell me, no, I don't. | ||
| They don't agree with them. | ||
| And I'm like, you don't believe that we should? | ||
| And they're like, no, absolutely not. | ||
| They say it didn't work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They say it's time for something else. | ||
| There was something really interesting that I remember seeing. | ||
| I don't know if you saw this. | ||
| Someone wrote a letter during the Black Lives Matter protests, like in 2014 or whatever, saying that they believed it was one of the Black Lives Matter activists. | ||
| They said that ending segregation, and this is according to their letter, Put black people in the same competitive field with white people, even though they were a massive, massive, massive disadvantage, creating a historical disparity that they could never overcome. | ||
| Whereas according to this letter, when they were separated, they had black Wall Street and they had their own economy in their own system that was working. | ||
| So that was Black Lives Matter back in 2014, calling for an end to our current status quo on, you know, civil rights and segregation and stuff. | ||
| They wanted it back. | ||
| Well, they've been calling for segregation nonstop. | ||
| I mean, they're calling for black student centers and colleges. | ||
| They're calling for blacks only spaces. | ||
| They're calling for segregation, essentially. | ||
| There's no way around it. | ||
| I mean, that's what it is. | ||
| It's frustrating to me. | ||
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unidentified
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Yep. | |
| I don't want it. | ||
| You don't want it? | ||
| And I can't believe that, like, when I talk to some of my good friends, they're like, you don't understand, it's good. | ||
| And I was like, it's not good for me! | ||
| I was like, it's remarkable, upper-class white progressives acting like they know what any minority is thinking or what's good for any, you know, non-white person or whatever. | ||
| I'm like, I don't want to live in your creepy world where I have to, like, check a box and pick a race. | ||
| Is it my dad or my mom today? | ||
| I got to figure that one out. | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| Screw off. | ||
| That's apparently the world they want, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unrelated, 89% of Florida in now, and it is Trump 50.3%, Biden 48.7%. | ||
| Oh my goodness! | ||
| I'm so excited! | ||
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unidentified
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Check this out. | |
| Okay, here. | ||
| So here's some shifts in precincts where we believe nearly all votes have been counted. | ||
| We can see for majority Hispanic, there's a huge plus 11 Republican lean. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh my... That's what I was talking about! | |
| That's what I was thinking! | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jackson, we called it. | ||
| Um, I think, I think the only thing that changed it, I believe, two days ago, Trump was like, it was D plus 25, Trump was down. | ||
| And that song came out where it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will vote for Donald Trump. | ||
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unidentified
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And then Trump gained 50 points. | |
| Well, I've always thought that like Cubans and Puerto Ricans, a lot of Hispanics would | ||
| would end up going for Trump because you people forget that a lot of Hispanic people are Catholic, | ||
| very heavily Catholic. | ||
| I don't forget. | ||
| And you know, you have the Democrats calling for like late late term abortion. | ||
| And like all the abuelas are like, ah. | ||
| Well, we have Catholic priests who will not give communion to Joe Biden. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're like, this isn't happening. | ||
| He's not a real Catholic. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I mean that, seriously. | ||
| Plus, he has the rights. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The media tried claiming Joe Biden was a practicing Catholic. | ||
| Seamus probably knows this. | ||
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unidentified
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Yes. | |
| And then smears Amy Coney Barrett for being a practicing Catholic. | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| Pick one. | ||
| Are you happy about it or sad? | ||
| Well, Joe Biden, I think you were saying he's not really, like, a practicing Catholic. | ||
| Yeah, Seamus is saying he does not fit the definition. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That makes sense to me. | ||
| Majority Hispanic areas. | ||
| Now, interestingly, what does this mean? | ||
| His urban areas are R plus four? | ||
| Really? | ||
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unidentified
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That's crazy! | |
| That seems ridiculous to me. | ||
| That's weird! | ||
| Majority black areas? | ||
| I want to check on Laura Loomer's race. | ||
| I'm really curious, yeah. | ||
| Am I reading this wrong or something? | ||
| Maybe? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| I mean, whatever. | ||
| Change in share of two-party vote. | ||
| Oh, okay, okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
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unidentified
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Okay. | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's not their lead totals. | ||
| It's the shift. | ||
| From 2016, majority Hispanic have moved to the right by 11.5 points. | ||
| And urban areas have gone to the right by four. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Bad news, guys. | ||
| They've called it for Louis Frankel. | ||
| Oh, boo. | ||
| Oh, in Laura Loomer's district. | ||
| But it's only 4% reporting. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Loomer has 112,000 votes. | ||
| Dude, she's popular. | ||
| She actually did really well. | ||
| Surprisingly popular. | ||
| Especially for someone who's been unpersoned effectively. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| She has no social media. | ||
| She's rocking it. | ||
| It's a pretty good campaign. | ||
| I'm pretty impressed, I have to say. | ||
| And I don't really like or care for her that much, but I'm pretty impressed with how she's doing. | ||
| I wanted to see her get into an elevator with Ilhan Omar more than anything. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| All I wanted. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| I know the left is going to start screaming at me for saying this, but I think we need karmic justice for the establishment. | ||
| And that means you get voted out, you support censorship, illiberalism, you get voted out, and then you reap what you sow. | ||
| So look, maybe Laura Loomer didn't win, at least that's what they're saying right now, but she certainly did well. | ||
| Very well. | ||
| She won the primary. | ||
| And that's like, you reap what you sow. | ||
| It's karmic justice. | ||
| But not quite, if she would have won, you know. | ||
| But of course the left is gonna be like, oh, how dare you, Tim? | ||
| Laura Loomer is so awful, whatever. | ||
| It's like, well, she didn't win. | ||
| People voted for who they wanted. | ||
| I'm just saying, when you un-person people, you separate them from the system. | ||
| Don't be surprised when they come back, because these people still exist. | ||
| It's like these digital assassinations don't stop a person from doing their own with their life. | ||
| They're still people. | ||
| They still do stuff. | ||
| So what's, what's, where are we at right now? | ||
| Where are we at? | ||
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unidentified
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What are we doing? | |
| So it's still 85 and Trump still has a, wow, his lead in the popular vote is going up. | ||
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unidentified
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That's funny. | |
| Oh my gosh, you guys, I'm excited. | ||
| I know, it doesn't mean anything. | ||
| We, you know, I'm just saying, I think it's funny that right now that's where we're at. | ||
| And I think they just called Illinois. | ||
| Yeah, Illinois went to Biden. | ||
| Oh, I mean, no kidding. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| They have his backwards? | ||
| I wasn't expecting him to get Illinois. | ||
| I thought people were reaching a little bit on that one. | ||
| I'm anxious to see what happens in Ohio, though. | ||
| Yeah, Ohio right now, 41, and it looks like Joe Biden is leading. | ||
| He's crushing it. | ||
| Yeah, he's doing really well. | ||
| That's unfortunate. | ||
| But it doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Why is he doing well? | ||
| He should be doing well anywhere. | ||
| Because the urban centers have reported. | ||
| Toledo, Cleveland, Akron, Dayton, and Columbus have reported. | ||
| So we have a lot of potentially red areas that haven't reported yet. | ||
| It might take all of them for Trump to win, but... Hey, you know what I just realized? | ||
| What did you realize? | ||
| Because I pulled up the stream on my own laptop. | ||
| At the bottom it says, U.S. | ||
| elections. | ||
| Results may not be final. | ||
| See the latest on Google. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, you know, I guess we'll just see what happens. | |
| We don't know what we're talking about, apparently. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's like tons of people hanging out here right now. | ||
| They're just chilling, yeah. | ||
| I wish I could show you guys. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I think it's time to tap in Tim 2.0. | ||
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unidentified
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Yes! | |
| So excited! | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| You guys ready? | ||
| Does somebody else want to hop in on my spot here? | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I'm sorry, Cassandra. | ||
| Yes, we got Jack. | ||
| We're switching up. | ||
| We got some males. | ||
| Oh, snap! | ||
| Look who it is! | ||
| Would you like me to leave you some Trump flags? | ||
| So Joe Biden is likely going to win Ohio. | ||
| I am calling the election for Joe Biden right now. | ||
| Do either of you have thoughts on whether or not Joe Biden is going to win? | ||
| They're leaving. | ||
| They're literally exiting. | ||
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unidentified
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Look, they're gone. | |
| Is Tim 2.0 not good enough? | ||
| No, I guess not. | ||
| Is the second Tim not enough for these people? | ||
| I guess not. | ||
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unidentified
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What's that? | |
| Oh, I'm not actually... So here's the thing. | ||
| I'm not actually Tim 2.0. | ||
| My name is... Yeah, I know. | ||
| It was a good impression though, right? | ||
| I agree, yeah. | ||
| And if you want to see more of my impressions, check out a channel called Freedom Tunes. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| YouTube.com slash Freedom Tunes. | ||
| My name is Seamus Coghlan. | ||
| I make cartoons. | ||
| He does. | ||
| I'm an imposter. | ||
| What? | ||
| What's a beanie man? | ||
| What the heck? | ||
| That's the thing, I'm not even like Tim at all. | ||
| It's true, not at all. | ||
| Extremely different people. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| You want to scoot your chair down a little bit? | ||
| Am I too tall? | ||
| You're a little taller than Tim. | ||
| Let's get short. | ||
| I asked Tim the other day if I was going to be able to sit in the captain's chair and he said no, never. | ||
| You might be as low as you can go. | ||
| And then he struck me. | ||
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He did, it's true. | |
| He punched me in the head and called me several expletives. | ||
| He did. | ||
| What am I even pulling here? | ||
| Why is this chair too complicated for me? | ||
| I guess it's too low. | ||
| I guess it's low already. | ||
| Can you hear anything, Jack? | ||
| This is as low as the chair gets. | ||
| I'm good, I'm good. | ||
| Welcome, welcome. | ||
| Okay, we got a couple people. | ||
| Let me show you, Jack. | ||
| You know, why is Illinois called ill-annoy? | ||
| It's not ill. | ||
| It's just annoying. | ||
| It's those two words together, like ill and the word annoy. | ||
| Illinois. | ||
| Stop being racist. | ||
| I was gonna go on a swearing tirade. | ||
|
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Please don't do that. | |
| Speaking of Illinois, Tim and I are both from Illinois. | ||
| It's an interesting place. | ||
| I was really surprised as well as Jack. | ||
| I'm also from Chicago, that's right. | ||
| This could be the Illinois cast if Tim got back over here. | ||
| I lived in Chicago. | ||
| Did you also live in Chicago? | ||
| Yeah, for three years on the north side. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| Were you a Cubs fan? | ||
| Uh, eventually, yeah. | ||
| I was indoctrinated. | ||
| I am a Northside Jew, Southside Irish, so I am a Cub fan and a Sox fan. | ||
| It was awful. | ||
| I guess I'll allow it. | ||
| I guess I'll allow it in this instance. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I got a question for you guys. | ||
| Who do you think is going to win, and what is the final percentage? | ||
| I have no idea, dude. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Wow, what a great answer, Lydia. | ||
| How interesting. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Unbelievable! | ||
| Could you come up with something? | ||
| I'm the host now. | ||
| I've officially taken this over for Tim, and you're not giving me anything. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| OK, this is because I'm trying to adjust the sound. | ||
| This transition is one of a kind. | ||
| I've never been involved in a podcast race before. | ||
| Is this what they call a smooth transition of power? | ||
| Yes, I think so. | ||
| A sequitur. | ||
| I'm completely dead in headphones. | ||
| I can't hear anything. | ||
| I don't know what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm babbling. | ||
| He's not babbling. | ||
| Here, can you hear anything? | ||
| I'm all good. | ||
| I'm thrown off because I'm sitting across. | ||
| Yeah, this is weird, dude. | ||
| He's in the wrong spot. | ||
| Ian's in the wrong place. | ||
| Are we going to play musical chairs? | ||
| Because I'm not getting up. | ||
| This is my spot now. | ||
| No, this is my spot. | ||
| It's like when it's really cold outside. | ||
| You know, it's like, because it was really hot and now it's really cold. | ||
| That's what it feels like sitting across from my old set. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| It's weird, right? | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| So why are we here again? | ||
| Yeah, Tim invited us because he just didn't want to do the show election night, but he still wanted to pull in the views for doing an election night show. | ||
| And he said, I know what I'll do. | ||
| I'll get these suckers into my studio and they'll just do it for me. | ||
| That's what we are. | ||
| Cue the suckers. | ||
| Sorry, guys. | ||
| Lydia was in on it the entire time. | ||
| It wasn't the branding I was going for. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| We could have done so much better. | ||
| Well, I'm sorry to tell you, it's just the truth. | ||
| I am fascinated to see how this goes. | ||
| In 2016, I was very surprised. | ||
| I think we were all surprised. | ||
| This election, to me, is a genuine toss-up. | ||
| I remember thinking, there's no way Donald Trump is going to win. | ||
| He won. | ||
| Fantastic evening. | ||
| I was very happy. | ||
| I was beside myself. | ||
| Many of my fellow graduates of art school We're not quite so happy. | ||
| I had several friends. | ||
| I had several friends. | ||
| One of my only regrets from college... What's wrong with me? | ||
| That was not one of my only regrets. | ||
| But one of my regrets from college was that the day after the election I didn't have any classes scheduled. | ||
| So that you couldn't see all your co-workers? | ||
| Yeah, well, I had several friends tell me that in their class there were literally kids crying, and one of my friends told me that a teaching assistant started crying during their class. | ||
| And another friend sent me a Snapchat of a kid, like, underneath their desk, huddled. | ||
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Oh no! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, man, that could have been me. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Like, I could have been there. | ||
| You could have been there. | ||
| I could have seen this. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I had no idea that Trump was gonna win. | ||
| None of us did. | ||
| In 2016. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| I actually, I remember writing, I wrote in a book and everything. | ||
| There was a book, no book, just kidding. | ||
| I wrote about how, you know, I settled in for the evening. | ||
| We were baking bread. | ||
| We tried to bake baguettes for the first time ever that night. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| We live tweeted the whole thing. | ||
|
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Oh, cool. | |
| That's cool. | ||
| It was a lot of fun and the baguettes came out amazing. | ||
| But as through the night progressed and the bread progressed, it became clear that he was actually going to win. | ||
| And it was Wisconsin. | ||
| It was when Wisconsin fell. | ||
| So for me tonight, I'm looking at the board and I'm looking, OK, what's happening with Wisconsin? | ||
| Because that's going to be a good green light for me. | ||
| Just start relaxing a little bit. | ||
| What's the likely plan of events for the night? | ||
| So votes are going to come in, it's going to be undecided at the end of the night? | ||
| Yeah, I have no idea. | ||
| I mean, if Trump wins, it'll definitely be undecided for quite a long time. | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| If it's, I guess, a landslide one way or the other, I can imagine him calling that, but it doesn't appear to be that at this point. | ||
| That's probably not going to be the case. | ||
| Can I get my two cents? | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
|
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Thank you, sir! | |
| If anything, I won't allow you not to. | ||
| Oh, oh wow. | ||
| What a feminist. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| Don't insult me. | ||
| Don't insult me. | ||
| I just gave you a platform to speak on. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Thanks, Seamus. | ||
| I'm actually going to leave now. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| You're staying here. | ||
| No one's leaving. | ||
| No one's going anywhere. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| Not allowed. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I think that votes are going to trickle in. | ||
| We're not going to know who wins. | ||
| I don't... I'm not convinced it's going to be a landslide. | ||
| I don't think it will be either way, but I do... I already gave my two cents on Twitter and I think that Trump is going to win Pennsylvania. | ||
| People think I'm crazy, but I do. | ||
| I think he's going to win Pennsylvania and I think he might win Florida. | ||
| Well, I think somebody already called that. | ||
| Looks pretty clear. | ||
| Florida looks pretty clear. | ||
| Is Trump going to win Florida? | ||
| Yeah, because that's the thing. | ||
| If Biden won Florida early in the night, then I pretty much would not have any hope for Trump. | ||
| But if Trump got that early on, that's very encouraging. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| The Ohio thing is a little, uh, little concerning. | ||
| I guess we'll see. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, Seamus, you can look down and you can scroll up and down through what we're looking at on the actual numbers right now. | ||
| Oh, I'm controlling what the audience sees now? | ||
| Am I in the right place? | ||
| No, no, no, you're not, because I control the cameras, Seamus. | ||
|
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So, I'm sorry. | |
| So, where am I going? | ||
| Please direct me. | ||
| So we're just scrolling right now. | ||
| We're just looking at I think this is the New York Times numbers. | ||
| I don't trust them. | ||
| They're looking. | ||
| Nor should you, Seamus. | ||
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I don't think you should. | |
| Look where they got us last time. | ||
| Only the New York Times is allowed to call the winner of the election. | ||
|
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That's right. | |
| I heard about that. | ||
| That tweet went out where they said very clearly that the New York Times and the media are the only ones responsible for calling the winner of the election. | ||
| We're gonna tell you. | ||
| And here's how it works. | ||
| Just like the founders intended. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| The New York Times. | ||
| I'm sorry for my camera switch there. | ||
| I'm a little taken aback by what Jack just said. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Since when do we trust them to tell us anything? | ||
| And the idea of calling Trump a fascist when the definition of fascism is like a unification between the corporations in the state. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the media. | ||
|
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It seems like that was his fascist It's extremely fascistic. | |
| So actually, we're all Antifa now. | ||
|
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Yeah, we are. | |
| I am the Antifa now. | ||
| Against the New York Times. | ||
| I've always said that. | ||
| Antifa Seamus was my nickname growing up. | ||
|
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Oh my gosh, Seamus! | |
| Very against fascism. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| But no, it's hilarious. | ||
| It's one of those things that, unfortunately, it's become an empty phrase people throw on fascism. | ||
| But if you actually look at the definition, it's very similar to that. | ||
| It really does mean something. | ||
| Basically, the idea that the state Is the absolute and highest authority on everything. | ||
| If you read, I was talking about this last time I was on the show, but you read Giovanni Gentile's work and he writes that nothing of value, human or spiritual, can exist outside of the state, which is a psychotic statement, but it's at the heart of fascism. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| Dictator. | ||
| Yeah, I like it. | ||
| We're not going back. | ||
| It's a psychotic, it is a psychotic statement, but at the same time it is, it's one which is tacitly acknowledged to be true by most people on the left. | ||
| There are things that They'll say, which pretty much suggests that it's the case. | ||
| Like, yeah, you know, you can have your own personal religious beliefs, but if, like, those conflict with what we believe the government should be doing, then you have to give that up. | ||
| And they play this game where they accuse you of forcing your beliefs onto them by not allowing them to force their beliefs onto you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's tricky. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| Yeah, no, I don't like it at all. | ||
| And you know what they say, if one side is using tricky language and playing around with words in a way that deceives you, it's probably the people you should vote for. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's a good rule of thumb. | ||
| Everybody's playing with words. | ||
| Everybody's pulling triggers in your mind. | ||
| Everybody's manipulating you. | ||
| Everybody's gaslighting you. | ||
| Everybody's misinforming you. | ||
| Our information space is polluted deliberately at all times from all players. | ||
| Oh, what the heck, Jack? | ||
| Serious question. | ||
| Do we live in a fascist state? | ||
|
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No. | |
| Absolutely not. | ||
| No. | ||
| Look, fascism can be defined so many different ways. | ||
| Again, like I said, it's an empty phrase. | ||
| If you look at fascism as being, again, the belief that the state is the absolute and highest authority, we're certainly approaching that. | ||
| And it's more the left approaching it than the right, though there are certain factions on the right which are leaning in that direction now as a response to the left. | ||
| What other authorities should there be besides the state? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Well, the church, God. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That's what Seamus would say, for sure. | ||
| What do you think, Ian? | ||
| The individual? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| The corporation? | ||
| What do you think, Jack? | ||
| Higher than the state. | ||
| Depends on the system. | ||
| Depends on the situation, I think. | ||
| Because they can just kick you out of their building. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| They totally can. | ||
| All right, guys. | ||
| Or have you arrested for, like, private cops? | ||
| I was just making our way to identifying the fact that without church leading the way, without God, without a higher power, without a greater calling, in the United States, our universal liberalism has ended us up in a situation in which the state does seem to be the highest authority in the land. | ||
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It's true. | |
| I don't know if that's good or not. | ||
| No. | ||
| I guess we'll see. | ||
| I would say it's not good. | ||
| I would say so, too. | ||
| What would be a better system? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What do we think would be better? | ||
| I don't know, but the guys with the guns that we consent to have them to have violence, those shouldn't be the guys with the highest authority. | ||
| Yeah, well, I'll put it this way. | ||
| You need, this is, you know, 2014, Seamus is going to be very angry to hear me say this right now. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, you need some government. | ||
| But of course, the problem is our government is completely out of control. | ||
| If you would ask me what system would be better than this? | ||
| There are a number that I could think of, but to be honest, our best shot is to just find a way to return this system to its actual foundational roots. | ||
| The way it should be? | ||
| Yeah, and the way America was intended to be wasn't necessarily a perfect system either. | ||
| I think there are flaws with some of what the founders set up, but it's much better than what we have now. | ||
| It's clear that most of the problems with this country are more of a perversion of what the founders wanted rather than a fulfillment. | ||
| Sheamus, I will say this. | ||
| Those founders were some smart dudes. | ||
| Well, really, they were actually bigoted, slave-owning white men, Lydia, so it's pretty messed up. | ||
| Lydia just called slave owners smart. | ||
| I want to flag that, get her cancelled. | ||
| No, I'm kidding. | ||
| Well, no, this is interesting, though, because obviously We would all agree that slavery is evil and horrific and disgusting, but when you read the actual text of the Constitution, it's clear that they're setting it up so that this is a system where slavery would eventually end. | ||
| I don't think all of them realize that or are even comfortable with it, but at the time, slavery was so widespread that there was no way you could have ever gotten the colonies to ratify the Constitution if it outright prohibited it. | ||
| So of course the Founding Fathers never wrote anything in the Constitution saying that slavery had to be explicitly prohibited. | ||
| That didn't mean that they were all in favor of slavery. | ||
| It doesn't mean that the country is evil or was based on an evil foundation. | ||
| Because if they had said, all right, as one of the rules, we're going to explicitly say that every colony which joins our union has to free the slaves, then there just never would have been a union in the first place. | ||
| And that union itself is what ended to the abolition of slavery later on. | ||
| Yes, sir, indeed. | ||
| I do have something to say. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We need to read some Super Chats. | ||
| It's 8.30. | ||
| We're going to be going through Super Chats kind of as they come in. | ||
| This is part of my job doing MC stuff. | ||
| Sorry, I look a little powdery. | ||
| Lydia, you are awesome. | ||
| Thanks, Ian. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| It's my pleasure. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let me read the first one. | ||
| It's from Prometheus Epipheus Epimetheus. | ||
| All right. | ||
| New name for Orange Man Bad and TDS. | ||
| We shall call it Tangerine Scream. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| That's brilliant. | ||
| All right, Ian, I'm going to need you to fix my mic. | ||
| And then this next one is from CJ Gray. | ||
| It says, go check Yahoo Live election updates. | ||
| They are calling for states to be confirmed when voters are saying that the other guy will win. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| All right, we'll check it out. | ||
| Seamus, you stole my thing. | ||
| I need to look at that. | ||
| This right here? | ||
| Yeah, right there. | ||
| Which one is supposed to be open? | ||
| This one that has the super chats in it. | ||
| That's what I need. | ||
| I'm sorry, we're looking at the same screen, which is kind of interesting. | ||
| It's really weird, yeah. | ||
| I know, I'm throwing Seamus off. | ||
| It's two separate monitors, and I have a mouse to control it, but apparently it's for the monitor. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| Thanks so much, Ian. | ||
| Ian saved the day. | ||
| He fixed my mic for me. | ||
| It started to fall off. | ||
| It doesn't fall off unless I really, really need it. | ||
| Oh, let's scroll a little bit. | ||
| Trump train, let's go. | ||
| Keep America great. | ||
| Thank you, Doomspud. | ||
| Roflcopter. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Roflcopter? | ||
| Come on, you don't know what a roflcopter is? | ||
| I don't! | ||
| Didn't you use AIM? | ||
| I did not use AIM. | ||
| Seamus, do you want to read a few? | ||
| I suppose I could. | ||
| Nothing super sketchy. | ||
| We're gonna skip to Seamus. | ||
| He's seeing better than I am right now. | ||
| They call me Sketchy Seamus. | ||
| Sketchy Coughlin. | ||
| So which ones do I read? | ||
| Just any that I pick up? | ||
| So we're gonna read slightly higher numbers, about ten bucks and up. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Y'all have post-election cigars ready? | ||
| We do not. | ||
| No, thank you. | ||
| Jack does not know. | ||
| That'd be nice. | ||
| I'd smoke some. | ||
| I would too. | ||
| Also, that's from Casper. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thank you, Casper. | ||
| Because smoking will lead to an early grave. | ||
|
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It's true. | |
| Florida for Trump. | ||
| $10, Florida for Trump. | ||
| That has been called. | ||
| You said it looked like Trump was going to get Florida. | ||
| Are we sure about that at this point? | ||
| Before I came on the mic, I saw somebody on Twitter that I think is credible saying that Florida was a sure thing. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| Hey, it's better than an anonymous source, so I'll take it. | ||
|
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Cool beans. | |
| We'll take it. | ||
| Pre-vetted onto my list. | ||
|
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High quality. | |
| We'll take it. | ||
| I do like my Twitter. | ||
| I'm going to scroll through. | ||
| Crowder's five minutes late. | ||
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Boo! | |
| We're not. | ||
| Ha ha ha. | ||
| Oh, Crowder's late. | ||
| That means we're gonna steal all of his viewers for tonight. | ||
| We did! | ||
| And if we're stealing Crowder's viewers, check out Freedom Tunes, guys. | ||
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Gonna keep shamelessly promoting myself. | |
| I just released a video today about Never Trumpers. | ||
| I think y'all should check it out. | ||
| Oh my gosh, cool. | ||
| Yes, please watch that. | ||
| I do not like the Lincoln Project. | ||
| Hashtag please clap. | ||
| The Lincoln Project's great. | ||
| Hashtag please clap. | ||
| Are we dropping socials now? | ||
| No, you guys aren't, but I am. | ||
| Shameless Shamus, they call him. | ||
| Shameless Shamus, they call me. | ||
| The Shameless Plugs. | ||
| So we got JD Mech 8, I'm sorry, JD Mech 81, and it's $20. | ||
| I should say $19.99. | ||
| Oh, we don't have to read the amounts. | ||
| We appreciate y'all. | ||
| Oh, oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| No, you're good, you're good. | ||
|
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That's fine, that's fine. | |
| That's so awkward. | ||
| I'm sorry, guys. | ||
| This is his first, he said, first Super Chat. | ||
| Appreciate all of your hard work. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| I'm not gonna see a penny of it, but you know what? | ||
| Your donation's appreciated. | ||
|
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Thanks, dude. | |
| Freedom. | ||
| I asked him, I said, I'm only going to come on your podcast if I get a cut of the Super Chats. | ||
| And he smacked me in the back of my head. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And he said, you'll be quiet and you'll like it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| All of this is true. | ||
| And I wasn't quiet. | ||
| I actually talked the entire time. | ||
| Tim Rules was an iron fist. | ||
| He sure does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I stole one of his beanies earlier for those who were not watching. | ||
| Oh my goodness gracious. | ||
| This wouldn't be right. | ||
| I couldn't host this without Tim's beanie. | ||
| He's doing it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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That looks good. | |
| That will enable you to read the Super Chats perfectly. | ||
| That looks great. | ||
| I think it looks awesome. | ||
| I think you're rocking it, dude. | ||
| So, thank you. | ||
| We have Chad Bremer who asks, why does Trump have a commanding lead in Virginia but they're calling it for Biden? | ||
| I keep asking that same question myself, but I imagine there's some quinky dinks of math going on there. | ||
| Yeah, so they had a very small percentage in Virginia. | ||
| They're like, we feel comfortable calling this for Biden just because of the counties that are outstanding or super, super liberal, and they could not possibly see them going for Trump. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I guess we'll see. | ||
| Virginia could surprise us. | ||
| Any of these states could. | ||
| So I guess we'll see what happens. | ||
| Doubtful. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, we don't know, right? | ||
| We don't know for sure. | ||
| It ain't over till it's over. | ||
| Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what it comes down to. | ||
| Where are those going? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Can we pull up some of those stats again or we want to keep doing Super Chats? | ||
| Well, let's continue to do Super Chats for about 10 more minutes and then we'll head back. | ||
| Lydia's suggestion. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| While Tim is away, and this is from Kaper2x, Lydia's suggestion. | ||
| While Tim is away, organize a panel with the ladies. | ||
| I thought that would be fun. | ||
| They're going to be coming back, I think. | ||
| We'll have Carrie and Cassandra back in or Carrie and Laura. | ||
| Wasn't the whole conversation a few moments ago about how we shouldn't do things based on identity politics? | ||
| Oh, you're right. | ||
| They want to kick us men out for a panel of ladies? | ||
| Get out. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| That's a little ridiculous. | ||
| You're smart. | ||
| I feel robbed. | ||
| Give us a break. | ||
| Ian feels robbed. | ||
|
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Robbed. | |
| I meant to say robed. | ||
| Real ladies. | ||
| Thank God you're robed. | ||
|
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Thank goodness. | |
| Should the girls have a panel, guys? | ||
| Should we step off and let them have their voices? | ||
| Well, before we do that, I have a question. | ||
| Oh. | ||
|
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Oh, touchdown! | |
| Woohoo! | ||
| Ha ha ha ha ha! | ||
| Ha ha ha ha ha! | ||
| I love it so much! | ||
| It's Tim's latest single. | ||
| Yeah, it is, I know. | ||
| Look at him jamming. | ||
| You did a music video for this, right? | ||
| If I have to have this stuck in my head, then so does everyone else. | ||
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All right, screw you, Tim. | |
| Get out. | ||
| I'm Donald Trump, and I approve. | ||
| I love that he approves it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I'm glad, dude. | ||
| I'm so happy that Donald Trump approved that song, because I don't listen to music that Donald Trump hasn't approved of. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| Yeah, I like it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| So how many electoral votes do you think that song picked up for Trump? | ||
| 15. | ||
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15? | |
| 30. | ||
| At least 15. | ||
| You're kind of low-balling it. | ||
|
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5%. | |
| How many? | ||
| 538, Tim says. | ||
| Trump just crashes in a landslide. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So I want to... | ||
| It's true, yeah. | ||
| The whole country is dancing. | ||
| Anything that gets the country dancing, I'm happy with, you know? | ||
|
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I think the problem is... Yeah, anything. | |
| When did the... I don't want to derail the conversation. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Not you. | ||
|
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Okay, let's talk about corporation for a minute. | |
| Ian doesn't want to derail the conversation. | ||
| When did the modern corporation get formed? | ||
| In the 1800s? | ||
| No, it was before that. | ||
| I think it was the 1600s is when you had the first corporations. | ||
| Yeah, the tea companies. | ||
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But were they like revamped? | |
| One day we were driving back from a road trip and we had this conversation in the car. | ||
| How old is the oldest corporation? | ||
| And we were like, I don't know, a couple hundred, 200, 300 years old. | ||
| We Googled it. | ||
| And the great old Wikipedia told us that there are corporations that have been in existence for over a thousand years. | ||
| What companies? | ||
| Like these nonprofit construction corporations in Japan. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Other countries. | ||
| Thousand years. | ||
| And in fact, the Hudson Bay Trading Company. | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| It evolved all the way to, I think, Saks Fifth Avenue. | ||
| Saks Fifth Avenue. | ||
| That's how we got on this conversation. | ||
| Was like, hey, what happened to Hudson Bay Trading Company? | ||
| Turned out, Sacks with that. | ||
| That's how old they are. | ||
| They're old. | ||
| Wow, dude, that's crazy. | ||
| That's neat. | ||
| In the 1800s, did they like renegotiate the laws around corporations to give them massive power, give them personhood? | ||
| No, not in the 1800s. | ||
| No, corporations did not have personhood in the 1800s. | ||
| So that's more recent. | ||
| Yeah, that's more recent. | ||
| They wielded a tremendous amount of power. | ||
| Well, all right, so the idea is, originally when a person had a business, they were the business. | ||
| Whatever happened, they were privileged with all the profits, right? | ||
| Maybe privilege is the wrong word, but they had a right to all the profits. | ||
| But they were also to be held accountable anytime the business did anything wrong the entire idea behind a corporation is there's limited liability So the person doesn't face all the same consequences that they would if the corporation goes and does something That that might negatively reflect upon them personally had they just been a sole proprietor or something or historically I just own the business themselves and with that there are certain costs I think a lot of people debate though that Businesses today with the way that it's structured and corporations today don't have the same risks that they did historically at least the larger ones But of course they get all the same profit or more but that yeah, I mean that's an entirely different discussion I'm not sure about all that. | ||
| It depends on the business, too I mean we would all agree that the companies that get bailouts are certainly experiencing that I don't know if I necessarily have a problem with the idea of corporations being considered quote-unquote people not because they're literally people on any Interesting. | ||
| real sense, but because that that kind of thinking is what allows for corporations owned | ||
| by religious people to follow their own religious beliefs rather than being forced to do things | ||
| like purchase birth control or abortifacients for their employees when their faith explicitly | ||
| prohibits that they do so. | ||
| So that was part of the Hobby Lobby decision. | ||
| Hobby Lobby said that they would pay for, I believe, 16 out of 20 kinds of birth control | ||
| that were being asked for by their employees. | ||
| And they were sued. | ||
| And it went all the way up to the Supreme Court, again, despite the fact that they were | ||
| paying for 16 out of the 20 kinds of birth control that they were being asked to pay | ||
| for and the ones they weren't paying for were actually abortifacients. | ||
| And it was ruled that because the owners of the company have their religious beliefs and | ||
| we can treat the corporation as a person, that it would be just as wrong to violate | ||
| an individual person's religious liberty as it would be to violate the religious liberty | ||
| of this corporation. | ||
| If I'm remembering all of that properly. | ||
| This was years ago, but that's the basic gist of it. | ||
| So I think in that sense, the law really works. | ||
|
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They taught you all this in art school? | |
| This is not the version of the story I heard in art school. | ||
| The version of the story I heard in art school, the one time a professor spoke on it was, this was a huge threat to, not just a threat, but a blow to workers' rights that religious institutions are able to tell them what kind of birth control they can access, even though it's legal and they can get it everywhere very inexpensively. | ||
| But that's a whole other discussion. | ||
| Indeed, it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As free people, we can come together and organize ourselves in any which way possible, I believe. | ||
| So thank God for corporations. | ||
| I've started several myself. | ||
| Limited liability. | ||
| Very important. | ||
| That's very cool. | ||
| Inducing you into economic and entrepreneurial behavior. | ||
| That's neat. | ||
| Good for America. | ||
| Yeah, I would agree. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's good. | ||
| Um, I think that if there's any threat in the modern age, it's the corporation. | ||
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What? | |
| And mercenary warfare. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's kind of an interesting take. | ||
| I think there's some truth to that. | ||
| Possibly so. | ||
| Especially when you look at the unholy alliance between a lot of the corporations in this state. | ||
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Look at Amazon and stuff. | |
| We discussed that and that's just fascism. | ||
| Well, there is a point where you have to start considering the public good, and that's what antitrust is all about. | ||
| That's what Teddy Roosevelt was all about. | ||
| He was a trust-busting conservative who I think a lot of people early on in the MAGA sort of movement look back to for inspiration in terms of a trust-busting, anti-corporate conservative. | ||
| Uh, who was also sort of an activist in terms of controlling and going after, uh, corporate interests. | ||
| And I think that's what people wanted from Donald Trump. | ||
| And we didn't get to see as much of that as we wanted because once you get into Washington and all the vampires are there and they not only can control the individual politicians, but they, they can just stop things from happening, stop things from coming onto the floor, stop votes from proceeding, you know, roadblocking and stymieing things. | ||
| So hopefully after Trump wins, should he win, we are all hoping he will win. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| That he can perhaps take stronger attacks on the corporations. | ||
| But he failed. | ||
| That's one of his major failings in this administration, was not going after the social media companies and just remedying the environment there in the corporations. | ||
| And a guy like Matt Stoller on the Democrat side will say the Democrats have been terrible at antitrust for a number of years. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Ever since the late 60s. | ||
| That's true as well. | ||
| All right, Seamus, you want to read a couple more superchats? | ||
| A quick state rundown? | ||
| Yes, and then I would actually like, this is an interesting conversation, so maybe we could jump back in. | ||
| Yeah, for sure, for sure. | ||
| I'll take a quick break. | ||
| So sure, let's look at some of these superchats. | ||
| I think I'm actually pretty up to date on them. | ||
| Let's go back. | ||
| Cool, cool, cool. | ||
| Thank you, everyone. | ||
| Thank you, Nate, for your $100. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| I thought we weren't supposed to say the amount. | ||
| I'm sorry, I did. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| So, uh, Mr. Isi, Mr. How do, how do I even pronounce this? | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um, said so many beanies. | ||
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I love it. | |
| Cheers from Texas. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, I hope you voted from Texas. | ||
| We don't want that going blue. | ||
| Thank you so much for your donation. | ||
| Texas is leaning blue guys. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| More on that in a second. | ||
| We're going to have a whole conversation. | ||
| Hey, you have to get out there and vote. | ||
| I know you're watching Timcast tonight, um, Mr. Nockfeiner. | ||
| Uh, but if you haven't voted already, please get out there and do so. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| And Tim and Company, thank you for helping keep my sanity intact. | ||
| Hold on one sec. | ||
| I'm sorry guys, I'm having kind of a hard time reading this. | ||
| Do you want me to read this one for you? | ||
| Do you want to? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That'd be great. | ||
| Tim and Company, thank you for helping me keep my sanity intact the past few months. | ||
| I may not agree with Tim 100%, but he works tirelessly and this country would be worse off without him. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| He has a stunning voice. | ||
| Love the new music video. | ||
| Keep fighting the good fight. | ||
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Oh, I love it. | |
| And that's very kind of you. | ||
| I did really like the music video quite a bit as well. | ||
| I did too. | ||
| That's pretty cool, right? | ||
| I very much support his decision to not allow me to be a part of that project. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| It turned out great. | ||
| That was wonderful. | ||
| Produced by Nishra Allman, and it's on the Timcast IRL channel. | ||
| I think that it was uploaded yesterday, right? | ||
| It was uploaded yesterday, yeah. | ||
| Great video. | ||
| Without my knowledge, but it's so cool. | ||
| We need art and creativity. | ||
| We do need art. | ||
| We need that on the right. | ||
| And Alex behind you, George Alexopoulos is wonderful. | ||
| He's a great artist on the right. | ||
| They say like, if you speak the truth, they'll kill you unless you make them laugh. | ||
| I think that was a Steinbeck quote or something. | ||
| I think that's Oscar Wilde. | ||
| Yeah, Wilde said it, and it's very true. | ||
| Everybody loves rock stars! | ||
| So if you're going to be like a crazy political analyst, politician that wants to really change the world and upend the power structure to create a better one, you've got to make people laugh in the process. | ||
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I think so. | |
| I think Steven Crowder is really good about that. | ||
| Or cry and dance and things like that. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| All right, Seamus, let's hit it. | ||
| Should we hit it? | ||
| One more super chat here? | ||
| Excuse me, I've been drinking a little beer. | ||
| Lydia! | ||
| I know, terrible. | ||
| Hey guys, I might have helped AOC win. | ||
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Oh no! | |
| I'm gonna cry. | ||
| She's from GN guy. Hey guys, I might have helped AOC win her primary | ||
| I introduced my buddy who dated the woman that became AOC's biggest donors | ||
| I interviewed her about her opinion on guns before her win. | ||
| Check out my page. Oh my goodness, man I hope you didn't I hope you're not in any part responsible | ||
| for AOC winning her primary, but if so, don't be too hard on yourself | ||
| Shame on you, but you can only move on. | ||
| Life is difficult. | ||
| We all make mistakes. | ||
| You can be a better person in the future. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| Do you need your headphones turned up, Chad? | ||
| I think I'm all good with the headphones. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Now we're talking. | ||
| My goodness, Trump won Arkansas. | ||
| Yeah, that's not surprising. | ||
| I couldn't. | ||
| I was shocked. | ||
| All right, I'm sorry. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Are we going to pull up the election map to see if anything else shocking happened? | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| So I'm going to minimize the thingy. | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| So let's look at what we got right now. | ||
| Seamus, what do you think? | ||
| Because we're showing them right here. | ||
| Oh wow, okay. | ||
| So Trump is 91% reported in Florida and Trump is three points ahead. | ||
| Wow, so you are correct. | ||
| It doesn't look like they're gonna call for him. | ||
| Trump is four points ahead in Georgia. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| But we've only got 24% reporting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Hey, that looks good. | ||
| They're looking pretty good. | ||
| I think it's... Scroll down a little. | ||
| It's looking really likely that Trump will win. | ||
| one point two points ahead north carolina we only have six seven percent | ||
| reporting that's that's a decent numbers i think it's it's a he's going there | ||
| scroll down a little it's a really likely that trouble when very aster | ||
| trump is pretty much gonna win florida ok uh... very likely of over ninety five | ||
| percent chance that he was florida and georgia we're talking about a eighty three percent | ||
| chance that he was georgia and in north carolina this is seventy four percent chance | ||
| So it's leaning in that direction. | ||
| Okay, so let me give you the quick state rundown. | ||
| So right now we have North Dakota. | ||
| Okay, so we have a few states leaning Trump, and I'll read you the states that are leaning Trump. | ||
| We have North Dakota, Michigan, Maine, Indiana, Georgia, and Florida are leaning Trump right now. | ||
| A few states are for Trump entirely. | ||
| We have Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, and West Virginia. | ||
| A few states are totally in the bag for Biden. | ||
| So follow along with me here. | ||
| Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland. | ||
| Illinois and Virginia. | ||
| New Hampshire is leaning. | ||
| Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Missouri, Kansas, and Texas are leaning. | ||
| Biden, D.C. | ||
| it says is undecided and I think we know how that's gonna go. | ||
| Any guesses which way that will go? | ||
| Last time Donald Trump got 11,000 votes total in a city of 700,000 people. | ||
| So I suspect those three electoral votes are in the bag for the District of Columbia. | ||
| I suspect you are correct, sir. | ||
| But those are the states right now. | ||
| That's where we're at. | ||
| I think Seamus has caught us up really well on Super Chat. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I am glad to have been of service. | ||
| Of course, sir. | ||
| Also, the analysis on the New York Times website is basically saying that if Trump wants to stay in the game, he does need to win all three of these states, Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina. | ||
| It's still possible for him to win if he loses one, but it's looking like he still has a chance at this point. | ||
| Cassandra is saying people are tweeting about something happening in Virginia with maybe Trump might actually win it. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Trump might win Virginia. | ||
| We keep seeing up here on Fox News that they keep saying that Trump is ahead, yet they keep calling it for Biden with a checkmark. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah, I'm excited. | ||
| I'm interested, really curious. | ||
| So, is it going to be time for the ladies' panel? | ||
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I think we're ready for the ladies' panel! | |
| Right! | ||
| Paneling up! | ||
| Alright, guys. | ||
| It's been great. | ||
| JackMurphyLive on YouTube, JackMurphyLive on Twitter. | ||
| You can follow me anywhere, guys. | ||
| JackMurphyLive on YouTube, JackMurphyLive on Twitter. | ||
| Am I getting kicked out, too? | ||
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No, you can stay. | |
| No, it's understandable. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm not wanted. | ||
| It's a women's panel, apparently. | ||
| Hey, Seamus. | ||
| Seamus, you're here. | ||
| Stay with us, please. | ||
| Alright, I guess I can stay. | ||
| We love you very much. | ||
| You're very funny and cute. | ||
| If you guys really want me here, I guess I can stay on the ladies' panel. | ||
| Alright, are we ready to introduce ourselves, ladies? | ||
| Hello, I am Lauren. | ||
| That's Lauren. | ||
| That's not Lauren. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| That's Ariel. | ||
| This is Lauren. | ||
| You got a camera. | ||
| You look good, ladies. | ||
| Yes, I was here yesterday. | ||
| So you may know me from that. | ||
| Of course, everyone knows you, Lauren. | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| Looking good. | ||
| Oh, nice Trump flag. | ||
| This is my first Trump flag. | ||
| This is the first one you've ever owned? | ||
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Ever. | |
| All right, lady, into the mic, please. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And I assume this was your first time voting for Trump as well? | ||
| Yes, I voted for Hillary, unfortunately. | ||
| Oh, my goodness. | ||
| Well, I hope you didn't vote for two losers, but we'll see at the end of the night. | ||
| Yeah, and honestly, we might not even see at the end of the night. | ||
| This might take quite a while for us to know. | ||
| I don't think we're going to know by tonight. | ||
| I don't know if we're even going to know by tomorrow. | ||
| I keep seeing people say, like, oh, yeah, with all the mail-in ballots, it's going to take time. | ||
| But can this country even handle that? | ||
| Ugh, I don't know, dude. | ||
| With all the civil and social unrest right now, could people handle having to wait several weeks to know who the next president is going to be? | ||
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We can't. | |
| I think we'd flip our lids. | ||
| Ariel thinks so, too. | ||
| What do you think, Ariel? | ||
| Does everyone have ulcers? | ||
| I'm worried. | ||
| I know, seriously. | ||
| I saw people in Brooklyn. | ||
| Come up to your mic, my dear. | ||
| Sorry, people in Brooklyn were already boarding up their windows yesterday. | ||
| I saw NBC. | ||
| Guys, I really didn't introduce people. | ||
| Will you scooch up for me a bit? | ||
| Just a skosh, Arielle, and I want you to be able to talk into the mic for me. | ||
| This is Arielle Scarcella. | ||
| She was one of our first guests on our podcast. | ||
| I love her very much. | ||
| She's adorable. | ||
| She's from New York. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| From New York. | ||
| They remember. | ||
| We do remember. | ||
| I'm the ex-liberal lesbian. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's only one of us. | ||
| I know. | ||
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It's true. | |
| There's only one of us. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Then we have Lauren. | ||
| Camille Paglia. | ||
| Oh, that's true, yeah. | ||
| So, Camille Pyle, you're not familiar with Camille, but you are new to this. | ||
| She's a nice liberal? | ||
| Uh, interestingly enough, maybe I can't say that. | ||
| I think she's still liberal. | ||
| She criticizes the left a lot, but maybe she's still liberal. | ||
| Yeah, I wouldn't call her a Trump supporter. | ||
| She's wonderful. | ||
| Yeah, she hosts FemSplainers with Kristina Hoff-Sommers. | ||
| Isn't she awesome? | ||
| She's a space mom. | ||
| I love her so much. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, she's great. | |
| She's great. | ||
| And then we have Lauren Chen. | ||
| Woo-hoo! | ||
| Here she is, jamming in the corner. | ||
| Everyone can see you, Lauren. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| Happy to be here. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm not ashamed of my dancing. | ||
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That's good. | |
| It's wonderful. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Neither is Trump. | ||
| Did you see him out there? | ||
| I did. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I love his dances. | ||
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My gosh. | |
| It frustrates me. | ||
| He's dancing to YMCA, but he never does the actual. | ||
| Come on, the Y. Give me a break. | ||
| So how many electoral points did that cost him? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| At least six. | ||
| If you don't do the actual YMCA, how many electoral points can you pick up? | ||
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50. | |
| That definitely cost him. | ||
| All right, Lauren, did you see anything in the numbers? | ||
| Did you see anything before you came up here? | ||
| Well, I saw that Trump is currently winning the popular vote. | ||
| I mean, they haven't counted, obviously, New York and California, but that's kind of an interesting... I mean, right now Biden's ahead in the actual electoral votes and then Trump ahead in the popular vote, so it's like... Which I didn't see that happening. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't either. | ||
| I really didn't either. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Tim was saying this earlier, but at this point in the night, that doesn't mean much, and especially because you mentioned they haven't totaled up the votes from really population-dense states, which are almost certainly going to go for Biden. | ||
| But interestingly enough, what people don't realize is, let's say we did completely abolish the Electoral College and we actually did go based on the popular vote, even though I don't think that would be a good move, that doesn't necessarily mean Democrats would win every election like they seem to think that they Uh, would in such a scenario, because oftentimes people who live in population-dense states know that those states are gonna go- And don't bother voting. | ||
| Democrat, yeah. | ||
| And so they just don't even bother voting. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Whereas if it was a purely popular vote-based system, a lot of those people might vote. | ||
| And so it wouldn't exactly, or it wouldn't necessarily be a total giveaway to the Democrats, though it's still not something I think would be good based on principle. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Indeed, you are correct, sir. | ||
| Ariel, what do you think? | ||
| Did you enjoy placing your vote for Trump this year? | ||
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Did you? | |
| Are you mocking this poor woman? | ||
| No, I love her so much! | ||
| My brother and I, we're both gay. | ||
| Look at your bike, lady. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| Bring it with you. | ||
| My brother and I are both gay. | ||
| We both voted Trump, voted Republican for the first time ever. | ||
| I love this so much. | ||
| And my mom as well. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| How about your dad? | ||
| My dad passed away, but I think he always voted Republican. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Like, secretly. | ||
| Your whole family's in on it. | ||
| I love it so much. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, my mom's in Florida now, so she's becoming more... That matters. | ||
| It does. | ||
| She's becoming more red because she's more of a country girl now. | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| But yeah, it's, I think most of the, a lot of LGBT people that I know are voting red. | ||
| It's really, really bizarre to watch. | ||
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That's so neat. | |
| And I think it's not because they necessarily like Trump. | ||
| They just don't like the progressive left. | ||
| Like, that's really what it's, and a lot of people say that to me, like, is that the reason? | ||
| It's like, yes, it's part of the reason, for sure. | ||
| I want to be able to have my speech and say whatever the hell I want. | ||
| Of course, exactly. | ||
| I don't want people to jump down my throat, which is, It's been happening for the past six years. | ||
| Dude, yeah, I know. | ||
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It's awful. | |
| I don't want it getting worse, you know? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It does directly affect me, you know? | ||
| And I think a lot of the progressive left is anti-women, believe it or not. | ||
| No, I think you're right. | ||
| I really do. | ||
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Oh, 100%. | |
| I really do. | ||
|
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100%. | |
| So I'm big with that, too. | ||
| The last time we talked, you and I, we talked about the progressive left actually being like anti-lesbian, like trying to Expand the definition of lesbian to include like all like all other genders According that I give me a break and it's so funny because I I was reading This article that made me think of you is from pink news and it was talking about how there's only like 15 lesbian bars left in the country and | ||
| And then one of the things it said, like, lesbian bars are important to foster an environment open to all sexualities and genders and stuff. | ||
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How about just lesbians? | |
| Then it's not a lesbian bar! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| It's not a lesbian bar! | ||
| I thought it was so funny. | ||
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In, like, the first paragraph, they're pretty much like... Already racing lesbians. | |
| Right! | ||
| It's just like, what the heck? | ||
| She's right! | ||
| It's true! | ||
| I'm telling you, they don't like women. | ||
| They really don't. | ||
|
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Weird. | |
| They really don't. | ||
| And it kind of bothers me because I'm like, what are you doing? | ||
| Y'all are supposed to be representing minorities. | ||
| You guys were supposed to be the party that was supportive and inclusive of women and their women's vote and everything. | ||
| And you're not. | ||
| You're failing. | ||
| Let's go over to the other party until something comes up better for us, until you guys reform. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I've never had anybody tell me I'm not a real lesbian or not a good enough lesbian on the right side. | ||
| Why would we? | ||
| Not a real lesbian? | ||
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That's insanity. | |
| Why would we? | ||
| It's weird to me. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| What do you think, Seamus? | ||
| Just in general about the left and the way that they treat women. | ||
| Generally speaking, what the left does is they have their own revolutionary ideas and | ||
| they try to find different groups that they can claim to stand for so that they can quote | ||
| unquote represent them. | ||
| Really what they want is to tear down the system and reform it. | ||
| And I shouldn't say reform it, rebuild it into something entirely new. | ||
| And the best way to do that is to get people who you either perceive as being or can convince | ||
| them that they are on the outside of the system and then they'll fight it with you. | ||
| So all of the identity politics stuff, and this goes for not just the modern iteration of that, but going back to even just the idea of gay pride in general, or gays and lesbians before transgenderism was a question, and even a lot of what we saw with racial identity politics was very much to get people To revolt against the system which existed, not necessarily because the left was interested in the well-being of those people, but because they were interested in tearing the system down. | ||
| And we can see, for some of those groups of people, there are injustices. | ||
| So, for example, I don't think any of us would argue that the Civil Rights Movement or the fact that people were marching against Jim Crow It was a bad thing, of course not. | ||
| But I think it's clear to see that so much of the reason that the left is interested, to whatever degree they try to appear to be interested, in the well-being of these groups is just because they see them as useful pawns. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And this is why you're told you're not really black if you don't vote for Joe Biden. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Or why people might claim that somebody's You know, sexual preferences are not something they can see as an identifier that they aren't, like, fulfilling if they don't vote a particular way. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But we certainly know that it's not a coherent structure of thought. | ||
| Yeah, I think that Seamus is right. | ||
| And I will interject this here before we move on a little bit. | ||
| We might read a few more super chats here in a minute. | ||
| No rush. | ||
| No worries. | ||
| We'll see how the states are doing. | ||
| It really bothers me that the left uses these minority groups as pawns. | ||
| It truly troubles me because I am actually really compassionate, like super compassionate, like in a way that I don't think that the leftists have ever been. | ||
| Because I'm like, why would you treat someone like a pawn when you could treat them like a person? | ||
| Why is this complicated? | ||
| Why should it be complicated? | ||
| Give me a break, man. | ||
| Just treat us like humans. | ||
| I literally filmed a video yesterday with a New York City, a black cop, black police officer who lives in one of the worst neighborhoods in New York City. | ||
| And he said exactly what you're saying. | ||
| Like, like almost identical. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He said they treat me You know, like a pawn. | ||
| Like they expect me to think a certain way and be a certain way and act a certain way. | ||
| And he's like, I am pro-Trump. | ||
| I'm pro-law enforcement. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| I'm pro-protection. | ||
| He's like, I live in a bad neighborhood. | ||
| I see what happens. | ||
| I have a daughter. | ||
| I got into law enforcement to protect people I love. | ||
| I shouldn't be hated for that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But it's also interesting how anytime there is someone that goes against the grain, whether it's a black person being conservative or any other like minority, they not only attack that person, they attack them way more than they would if it were just the traditional straight white man. | ||
| Because I think it's more threatening. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
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| Because it can show that there's not just this stronghold. | ||
| Also, I mean, I think there's a kind of contempt that they view them with. | ||
| So this is something that we saw With people we would consider working class voters or white working class voters, where this is a group of people that Democrats would traditionally have said that they stand for and by, but they're often the butt of the joke, especially when it comes to conversations about Trump. | ||
| And so often we hear this impression of a conservative, and it always ends up being some uneducated sounding person, usually with like a Southern accent. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Don't take my guns away. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Bitter clingers. | ||
| Yes, they cling to their guns and violas. | ||
| And I'll be honest, I thought that that was the case, you know, and I met my first conservatives, in quotes, my first conservative friends in St. | ||
| Petersburg, in Florida, in St. | ||
| Pete. | ||
| That's so great. | ||
| And they were We're gun-toting Americans. | ||
| But, in the video I filmed with him, he literally said, I said, do you hate gay people? | ||
| Why would I? | ||
| He goes, no, I want gay people to have guns to protect their pot farm. | ||
| I've heard that too. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| So you're kind of liberal then. | ||
| New Age conservative. | ||
| That's what they call it. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| New Age conservative. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Yeah, so there's also the conservative, and this is something I kind of take issue with, but I think first and foremost, it's possible to disagree with somebody's lifestyle choices without hating them as a person. | ||
| But I think that's definitely lost in the modern conversation. | ||
| And I think what's happened to conservatism over the past several years, and it's something I've discussed on this show and really lamented, is the fact that It's sort of changed from being something that I think was | ||
| more deeply based in Christianity and in this country, not necessarily Catholicism because | ||
| America was sort of founded on competing ideals usually between like maybe more liberal Protestant | ||
| thinkers of the area and not anything really robustly Catholic. | ||
| But we have changed the meaning of conservative, at least in America, to sort of being a loose | ||
| affiliation of people with kind of vaguely similar ideas about the economy and really | ||
| no perspective on social issues other than a sort of run-of-the-mill classically liberal | ||
| perspective. | ||
| And that's not a change that I'm fond of ideologically, but I wonder if it's possible to win in this | ||
| country at this point without that politically. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, there's a difference between being right-wing and being conservative. | ||
| And I feel like we don't talk a lot about that, right? | ||
| Because someone can be totally right-wing economically, but be very liberal. | ||
| You know, some people might call it like, oh, well, that's just a libertarian. | ||
| It's like, no, that's that. | ||
| It's a little bit different. | ||
| And versus you can actually have like a Democrat who's very socially conservative. | ||
| And for, I think, a lot of Catholics, That might be where they find themselves, right? | ||
| Because a lot of Catholics do vote Democrat. | ||
| Unfortunately, yeah. | ||
| But they are socially conservative, so I think there's a difference there, and I think what we're seeing is not necessarily a resurgence of conservatism, but more right-wing populism. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, no, and that's exactly my point. | ||
| What the conservative movement in America today is and has been is not necessarily something which I would consider conservative, so I don't really call it a resurgence of conservatism. | ||
| What's sad is when it comes to the Catholics who vote Democrat, for example, This is something Tim gave me a shout-out to about earlier when he was on, but Joe Biden, for example, the media has repeatedly referred to Joe Biden as a practicing Catholic, but by definition he isn't, because one of the requirements in order to be a practicing Catholic is you have to give full assent to Catholic teaching. | ||
| Catholic teaching states that abortion is murder and has to be treated as such by civil authorities, which Joe Biden explicitly votes against. | ||
| He's literally a civil authority. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| But he's still referred to as a practicing Catholic. | ||
| Even though he's been... I think he has been denied communion, right? | ||
| He has been denied communion. | ||
| He has been denied communion. | ||
| Interesting to me. | ||
| Now, you could say, all right, maybe there was some priest who was out of line and denied communion. | ||
| That wasn't the case. | ||
| The priest was totally right to do so. | ||
| But somebody could argue, well, one priest isn't exactly the standard bearer, the person who could tell us whether or not he's Catholic. | ||
| But based on the actual definition of what a practicing Catholic is, Joe Bind is not one. | ||
| Yet, how many Catholics voted for him? | ||
| Some large number. | ||
| I think the Catholic vote for... I know under Obama, the Catholic vote, the majority went to him, which is really sad, but also that's a result of the fact that most Catholics just don't know their faith very well. | ||
| I mean, I think, to be fair to Catholics, and Liam and I talk about this all the time, that's true of every faith, pretty much. | ||
| It's true, unfortunately. | ||
| In the modern era, I would say, it's pretty typical. | ||
| It's too bad. | ||
| One thing that I just want to interject as the only gay person here but like I have to use that card but I had this conversation with Sidney Watson and a bunch of other more conservative friends of mine and I think that one thing that the conservative movement or the right-leaning movement has to do a better job at is welcoming gay people. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| What do you mean by welcoming gay people? | ||
| It's almost because I grew up in the 90s and the Republican Party and just majority of people didn't even accept gay marriage and not even Obama until 2008, right? | ||
| His second term. | ||
| So it's still a pressing issue Not in the law, but in we're worried about how other people see us still. | ||
| Culturally, believe it or not. | ||
| And I think for a lot of conservatives, the whole thing comes down to, I think a lot of conservatives see gay pride parades and equate that lifestyle with every single LGBT person. | ||
| Which is fair because that's what they show. | ||
| But it's not accurate. | ||
| It's definitely not accurate. | ||
| It's definitely not accurate. | ||
| Let me say something about pride parades, just because this is funny. | ||
| There's a reason why lesbians lead the parade and then you really don't see any lesbian floats after that. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know, man. | ||
| Do you see any lesbians that are naked ever? | ||
| No, no, no, never! | ||
| No, yeah, it's true. | ||
| They do the dykes on bikes, they're the first people, the first girls out. | ||
| Fully clothed. | ||
| Yep, 100%. | ||
| They're done. | ||
| They never show up again. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| So, yeah, I guess when you say the conservative movement needs to be more welcoming to gays, what does it mean to welcome gays? | ||
| Does it mean you have to approve of their lifestyle choices? | ||
| Or that you can no longer believe marriage is between a man and a woman? | ||
| Or does it just mean, don't hate me, don't hurt me? | ||
| How would you define this? | ||
| I would say separation between church and state, for sure. | ||
| To me, that's just an American thing, not a conservative or liberal thing. | ||
| So would you say that church and state are not separate if marriage is defined as between a man and a woman? | ||
| To me, as long as I have the same rights, I wouldn't care what it's called. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| Marriage is a piece of paper. | ||
| We're not going to see eye to eye on this, but I do totally disagree. | ||
| In which way? | ||
| I just, I believe marriage is so much more than a piece of paper and part of this is just informed by my faith. | ||
| In law, I'm talking about in law. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm talking about in law. | ||
| In the eyes of the law, as long as, I don't care if it's called marriage, civil union, whatever, as long as I have these same rights, it's, it's, the point's moot to me. | ||
| It's like, it's, it's the same. | ||
| Well, what I've found interesting is that I've also seen a lot of conservatives say that they don't like the idea of government getting into marriage at all. | ||
| Absolutely, yeah. | ||
| Which is the position that I take, especially when we look at the taxation, the way that | ||
| that works into as well as things like granting special privileges for things like estates. | ||
| And I think it's a way for government to say we're granting you special privileges for | ||
| marriage but really it's them justifying taking away privileges from other people. | ||
| It's the way that I see it. | ||
| So I don't think government should be, like, it doesn't really make sense if you think | ||
| of it, like, why would government have a role in recognizing your personal relationship? | ||
| I guess it's just a fundamental disagreement on what marriage is and its role in society. | ||
| I would say that when a man and woman come together, they're likely to be producing children. | ||
| This all changed once the artificial contraception became very popular. | ||
| But historically it was the case, and I believe marriage is intended to be a union where a man and woman produce children or are together for their entire lives. | ||
| I agree with that, but why is the state recognizing that? | ||
| Sure, because it's a good thing for the state to incentivize and it's good for the state to say, if you are married and you are the sole provider, for example, even if you're not the sole provider, but you and your wife are working or you're working to support your wife and kids, we probably should tax you less because you're going to be raising these children. | ||
| But I want everybody to be taxed less. | ||
| I agree too. | ||
| I want to abolish the income tax. | ||
| I want everybody to be taxed less and I am in favor of things like if you have child tax credits and even something like we've seen Poland and I Is it hungry or just pull and do? | ||
| I think it's hungry as well. | ||
| In order to encourage birth rates but I don't necessarily see that as being the same as saying like the government needs to define marriage especially when we I don't know when we look at the fact that so many people are getting married and not having children it's looking like we haven't we have if that is the reason for government recognizing marriage it's not looking like it's been effective. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, nowadays people are generally not having children. | ||
| I would say that's more of a cultural issue than a government issue, but I do believe that government recognizing marriage as it is and wanting people to have children or at least keep track of who's having children is a good thing, but I suppose we'd disagree on this. | ||
| As for the polls, did you want to pull those back up? | ||
| I know that Joe Biden is at 119 electoral votes and Trump is at 94. | ||
| We're at 119 and Trump's hanging out at 94. | ||
| So we're a little bit ahead. | ||
| And Trump is still winning the popular vote. | ||
| But like Lauren pointed out earlier, oh, New York actually, is New York reported? | ||
| New York's blue. | ||
| Yes, indeed. | ||
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80%. | |
| Such a shock. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I voted red. | ||
| All my friends voted red. | ||
| The fact you didn't vote hard enough and you didn't bring enough friends to the polls. | ||
| You didn't vote enough times, perhaps. | ||
| That's the Democrat way. | ||
| Come on, now. | ||
| I'm curious. | ||
| Being from New York, you mentioned a lot of people are boarding their shops up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What have the attitudes of the average person on the streets been like? | ||
| And part of the reason I'm asking, like, the average person on the streets, people you would just, like, run into at a bar or something or in public, maybe not necessarily your close circle of friends, because we all have biased circles. | ||
| I'm curious, what are the attitudes you have noticed? | ||
| The older people, people that are business owners, obviously, because of COVID and everything like that, people that are more religious or more I would say old school New Yorkers, old school with people that were born and raised there, are voting Republican. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| They don't want our city getting effed up. | ||
| Who could blame them? | ||
| Yeah, I really don't. | ||
| I mean, we were born and raised there, and these people that are, you can't even say millennial, I'm technically a millennial. | ||
| These Gen Z people, you know, New York City, you have to remember, is a lot of college, a big college town. | ||
| That's very true. | ||
| It's a big, there's 100 schools or something, and there's NYU, and Columbia, and all these, you know, I mean, the people are brilliant that go there, I'm sure, but they're also really hipster. | ||
| I 100% see where you're coming from. | ||
| There's a lot of artistic schools. | ||
| It's a big, it's a big artsy, yeah it's a big artsy city and and it's it's a big urban city. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. Well it's interesting especially if you look at the role that someone like Giuliani had in New York. | ||
| It does kind of seem like even though they're, you know, New York, they're leftists, it does seem like when it comes to law and order, New Yorkers want things done and they were willing to even vote for Giuliani to do that. | ||
| And maybe like this is like all these riots are kind of spurring similar sentiments. | ||
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Oh, 100%. | |
| I agree with you. | ||
| I think, I think the riot, if the riots and COVID didn't happen, I don't think New York would have gone, it's not red still, but I don't think it would have gone a little bit over to the red side. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So if the riots and COVID hadn't happened, I would have just said Trump had this whole thing in the bag. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But because of the civil unrest, because of the economic recession, it's, it's been a more complicated prediction to make. | ||
| So what was most interesting to me was that I don't think that anybody noticed when they were riding like this. | ||
| Go for it, Seamus. | ||
| You're good to go. | ||
| No, I was just going to grab water. | ||
| I'm still... Oh, I suppose... Unless you're kicking me out. | ||
| No, you can grab water, I guess. | ||
| I guess that's alright. | ||
| I'm trying to sneak away. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I had your attention to Seamus. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Alright, so one of the things I noticed with the... | ||
| Rioting and stuff is that they weren't paying attention because they find that rioting tends to put Republicans in power. | ||
| It's like, you guys, it really does. | ||
| Well, that makes sense. | ||
| So what was so interesting to me was that protests put Democrats in power. | ||
| Protests put Democrats in power, from my understanding. | ||
| Look how victimizing, look at the victims. | ||
| And then it's like, oh, but now you're becoming the oppressors. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Now you're hurting innocent people. | ||
| So now you're doubling down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what Don Lemon said. | ||
| It's affecting the polls. | ||
| It's showing up in the polls. | ||
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Oh, 100%. | |
| It was so interesting to me that he noticed that and I was like, oh, you're right. | ||
| I'm glad you're waking up to that. | ||
| Oh, definitely. | ||
| That's definitely what happened. | ||
| But all the rioting? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Republicans win. | ||
| Law and order? | ||
| That wins. | ||
| Sorry, sorry, sorry. | ||
| Which in part That's part of why I suspect they went with Kamala. | ||
| Maybe they thought if we have a law and order type person, we can win some people back over the Democrats. | ||
| It's the worst. | ||
| It's such a strange thing, right? | ||
| Because it's obvious that the reason Joe Biden said, I'm going to pick a woman of color is because he's trying to pander to progressives. | ||
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But he picked the one person that every progressive I know hates. | |
| I don't know a single progressive who can stand Kamala Harris. | ||
| One of my favorite things to come out of his pick was the left hates Old cis straight white men. | ||
| It's true! | ||
| And cops! | ||
| And they picked two! | ||
| Oh my gosh, what the heck. | ||
| Do you think Elizabeth Warren would have been a better nod to progressives than Kamala Harris? | ||
| No, she's a fake Indian. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| She really is. | ||
| She lied about being Native American. | ||
| But they don't care about that. | ||
| Her follow-up was even more offensive. | ||
| Well, but here's the thing. | ||
| Trump would have torn her apart with it. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| They knew they couldn't put her up against Trump because not only did she say that she's Native American, but she took a DNA test. | ||
| would show that she was like 0.001% whiter than the average person. | ||
| Not only whiter than the average person, but she used that DNA test that said she had some ambiguous native DNA from somewhere in America and said, I am Cherokee. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which would be like me saying like, Oh, I have a slight amount of European DNA. | ||
| Guess I'm French. | ||
| Like that's not how it works in the Cherokee nation. | ||
| The only thing that came from that test is Elizabeth Warren proving her stunning racial homogeny. | ||
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Oh my goodness! | |
| Did you see when Trump tweeted Elizabeth Warren won slash 2020? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Because she was won like 20- Do you see the TikToks when they were blowing up about, I just took a DNA test, turns out I'm 100% and then it says white and somebody goes, it's still a piece of garbage. | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure! | ||
| A hundred percent, yeah. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| Alright, Seamus, should we do a couple more Super Chats? | ||
| You want to do? | ||
| I've got a couple lined up for you there. | ||
| That's this orange one from Brandon. | ||
| Brandon D., I don't agree with Tim's opinions on everything, but I find when it comes to sharing all the facts, nobody does it better. | ||
| Thanks for making it easy to stay informed. | ||
| I appreciate all of you. | ||
| Greetings from Baltimore. | ||
| Thank you, Brandon. | ||
| Very much appreciated. | ||
| Hello from the other side. | ||
| We are in a different place. | ||
| I'm not going to say where because then I would be doxing everybody here. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Please don't do that. | ||
| I don't want Antifa to bang down our door tonight. | ||
| Yeah, at least wait until I leave. | ||
| Yeah, seriously, until Laura's out of here. | ||
| Once Laura's gone, all bets are off. | ||
| All bets are off. | ||
| He'll tell everyone. | ||
| John Doe said, thank y'all Muslims for Trump. | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| I think Muslims will support Trump more than most people. | ||
| God willing. | ||
| You'd be surprised. | ||
| I think so. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So yeah, that's interesting. | ||
| I mean, I wouldn't doubt that. | ||
| They certainly tend to be more socially conservative. | ||
| They are. | ||
| It's one of the really interesting, weird allegiances, the way the progressive left kind of, I don't know, defends Islam at every turn, when if you look at actual Islamic beliefs, they're not very progressive. | ||
| No, they're really not. | ||
| They're sexist, homophobic. | ||
| They're more conservative than Christians for sure. | ||
| It's funny seeing the way that they attack someone like Amy Coney Barrett for being this religious extremist and then in the next breath a lot of these same news outlets are kind of defending blasphemy lies. | ||
| Isn't it funny that they spent weeks, I shouldn't say weeks, but at least days questioning whether or not this woman should be able to serve on the court because of her religious beliefs, and then they had the audacity to say she was a threat to religious freedom. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Wait, are we going to talk about, since you're here, Seamus, should we talk about the Catholic question? | ||
| Ooh, we can, and then we'll switch our guests. | ||
| On Amy Coney Barrett? | ||
| Yeah, how there are a disproportionate amount of Catholics on the Supreme Court. | ||
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Oh, snap! | |
| Don't we think that's suspicious? | ||
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I don't have a problem with it. | |
| I certainly don't have a problem with it. | ||
| Of course he doesn't. | ||
| Yeah, is there a disproportionate number of Catholics? | ||
| Yeah, I think there is. | ||
| That's kind of interesting. | ||
| I was unaware. | ||
| I didn't know that, guys. | ||
| I didn't know there was a disproportionate number of Catholics. | ||
| And actually, if you look at when presidents pick, it's usually like a Protestant and a Catholic mix. | ||
| Usually, a Protestant president will be picking a Catholic VP. | ||
| Because Trump is secretly one of us. | ||
| No, I'm kidding. | ||
| But there are some people who are saying, I think they were saying that Melania might have brought a statue of our Lady of Fatima into the White House. | ||
| I need to double check on this. | ||
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What? | |
| That's craziness. | ||
| I didn't hear about that. | ||
| Is Melania Catholic? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think she's Orthodox. | ||
| Oh yeah, because she's from over... I know she's Eastern European, right? | ||
| What country is she from specifically? | ||
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Slovenia. | |
| Slovenia, yeah. | ||
| I would need to double-check on that, but I think that Trump is, he's certainly more friendly to Catholics than, in a weird way, I almost want to say he's more friendly to Catholics than any president of my lifetime. | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| And what's strange is, it's not even as if Trump is like a Protestant. | ||
| I mean, he is nominally Christian, but nobody's fooled. | ||
| Trump's not a religious, or he hasn't seemed a religious person. | ||
| I think he might be. | ||
| I think maybe his faith has developed. | ||
| I think he might be, I think he might, I don't doubt that he probably may believe in God, but I don't think he's living a Christian lifestyle, and I don't think that's a shocking thing to say. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| No, I mean, he's in his third. | ||
| Not with some of the things he said. | ||
| Oh, for sure not, yeah. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Now, again, it's possible for anybody to change, but and again i i think trump has been very very good for for | ||
| calis but it is interesting that he has he's mostly nominated catholics to the supreme court | ||
| i like it i love it so vote for don't vote for biden that's well it's so funny because like | ||
| i mentioned people have been um using this strange very empty identity politics for catholics | ||
| of saying well biden is the catholic in the race to vote for hey | ||
| Technically Catholic. | ||
| But he isn't. | ||
| He's really not. | ||
| He is baptized Catholic, but again, he doesn't practice the faith because he rejects church teaching really explicitly. | ||
| And I mean, come on, if you're going to vote for someone just for being Catholic, Mike Pence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Come on. | |
| Alter boy Mike Pence. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| And Mike Pence, I think, he's evangelical, right? | ||
| He's not Catholic anymore. | ||
| He left the faith. | ||
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He is Catholic. | |
| He's Protestant, but he went to Catholic school in Chicago, I believe. | ||
| Yeah, he was, because his family, a lot of the Pence family is, I think, Catholic, from what I understand. | ||
| I remember looking this up online, trying to find a definitive answer, and I couldn't. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Good old Mike Pence. | ||
| Seamus, we've got some state updates. | ||
| You want to look at these? | ||
| Yeah, let's take a look at this. | ||
| First of all, I want to point out the fact that Florida is 93% reporting and everyone's been saying Florida is leaning towards Trump, but the New York Times isn't calling Florida. | ||
| Nor Georgia, nor North Carolina. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is North Carolina still going for Biden? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| They've redone the color. | ||
| So I was looking at with Seamus here, but look, North Carolina and Florida are now gray. | ||
| I'm sorry, you guys can't look, but North Carolina and Florida are gray again. | ||
| Before they were leaning blue. | ||
| Oh, and now they're gray. | ||
| And they're gray. | ||
| So we have quite a few red states over there in the middle, to the surprise of absolutely no one. | ||
| We might get some more Catholic Supreme Court justice over here. | ||
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I hope so. | |
| Well, I'm looking at the chat right now. | ||
| People are saying Texas is currently blue, but they expect it to change. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| What a shift that would be if Texas became blue. | ||
| I wouldn't be super surprised. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| I do think it's possible. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| It's the Californians' fault. | ||
| I mean, that's what happened to Arizona. | ||
| The value that California has always provided this country is it kept a huge number of people | ||
| who just vote very stupidly in one place. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| We were willing to tolerate the existence of California. | ||
| But now? | ||
| It was just a black hole that sucked in all the people who voted for terrible things. | ||
| But now they've been spreading out to other states. | ||
| No more, you guys. | ||
| I think if you want to leave California because of how horribly that place is managed, | ||
| by all means do so. | ||
| But please don't vote for the same things that destroyed California. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Why is that complicated? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| And yet people still don't seem to get it. | ||
| So many people are saying that. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Isn't that infuriating? | ||
| So many people that are moving from California to Texas, they're saying, don't bring your crappy politics. | ||
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Please don't. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| That's the reason you left. | ||
| Don't make it the same here. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You're going to do the exact same thing. | ||
| No, it's insane. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And California has, I think, the highest state income tax rate. | ||
| It's 11%. | ||
| It's close to New York. | ||
| Yeah, it's higher than New York. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| So I'm from the Chicago area originally, Illinois, and it's pretty bad. | ||
| But man, the state income tax is not that high. | ||
| It's really, really horrible. | ||
| We're horrifically in debt. | ||
| And I think because of Cook County, Illinois has more debt per capita than any other state in the union. | ||
| But yeah, I'm glad it's not California. | ||
| When it comes to the weather, I wouldn't mind it being California. | ||
| I know, it's California. | ||
| I love the weather, dude. | ||
| Let's read a couple more Super Chats. | ||
| We'll run over the states and we'll switch our guests, if you guys are okay with that. | ||
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Yeah, 100%. | |
| They'll leave and I'll stay here. | ||
| I guess so, yeah, that's right. | ||
| He's happy to stay. | ||
| He is, look at him. | ||
| I just never stop talking, so if there's a microphone in front of me, at least it's profitable for somebody. | ||
| Well, now that Tim isn't here, you should go full Deus Vult on the platform. | ||
| Yes, you should! | ||
| Let me tell you all about the message. | ||
| Let's read some superchats before we go that route and then we'll make that happen. | ||
| What do you think, Seamus? | ||
| I think that sounds fantastic. | ||
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Cool, cool, cool. | |
| Alright, let me scroll down a bit. | ||
| I'm gonna read some of these. | ||
| I know you guys know my vision hasn't been great. | ||
| Let me look at CVA Buck here. | ||
| Repost because lots of super chats tonight. | ||
| This is correct. | ||
| I'm sorry, dude. | ||
| I'm trying to get to him I'm in the heart of Virginia state Dems kicked the gun-owning Hornets nest in January. | ||
| I remember this Tried to felonize half of the state. | ||
| I remember that as well. | ||
| We're the swing state and nobody realized I I'm going to laugh myself silly if we pull off the flip. | ||
| I'm excited for Virginia. | ||
| They're gray right now, I think, on the New York Times. | ||
| No, Virginia's not, right? | ||
| Lauren's giving me a weird look. | ||
| I mean, from what I've seen, it was weird. | ||
| Most of the reporting was for Trump, but they had called it for Biden, and apparently that was because of the areas that they hadn't called yet. | ||
| Virginia's tricky, because it's not really a northern state. | ||
| It's hard, right? | ||
| If you really go to it. | ||
| I know, it's challenging. | ||
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I know, it's pretty blue too, so I was seeing... The top of it, only the top of it. | |
| Okay, maybe that's the issue then, because Trump was coming in strong in Virginia, but they were calling it for Biden, and I was like, why? | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| Maybe that's why. | ||
| Yeah, maybe that's why. | ||
| I think it's because places they hadn't Counted yet. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| I think that's probably it. | ||
| All right let me do one more stupid chat and then we'll have us all switch out. | ||
| Oh well also for anyone who cares AOC just officially won re-election according to Twitter. | ||
| I'm not surprised. | ||
| Okay well we have the AOC commentator coming on now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm excited to hear what he has to say. | ||
| Alrighty, one sec. | ||
| If Trump wins, can he please annex us on the UK? | ||
| Would really appreciate it. | ||
| Peace. | ||
| I wish that we could. | ||
| I would love to annex you guys. | ||
| You guys are great. | ||
| Our forebears who gave us this great love of freedom. | ||
| Alright, then we have Moosers6 to thanks for the conversations here. | ||
| It helped influence my wife and I's vote. | ||
| Very cool! | ||
| Would the TeamCast group ever consider sponsoring an amateur race car team? | ||
| Ooh, that sounds interesting. | ||
| That sounds fun, right? | ||
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A race car? | |
| A race car team! | ||
| Amateur race car team? | ||
| I'll get my Thunderbird. | ||
| That sounds amazing. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| I'm calling this for Tim. | ||
| I'm calling it. | ||
| We're gonna do it. | ||
| We'll make it happen. | ||
| P.S. | ||
| Tell my wife to wake up. | ||
| She is missing the party. | ||
| Come on, lady. | ||
| Wake up. | ||
| You are, in fact, missing the party. | ||
| I think he's closer to her. | ||
| He could probably wake her up. | ||
| He could probably, like, poke her in the back or something, right? | ||
| He's like, hey, man, please get out of bed. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| One more and then we'll switch teams and we'll get going. | ||
| From Sauron, ooh. | ||
| The law is a teacher. | ||
| What is allowed in law ultimately be seen as morally good, whether it is good or not. | ||
| I think that's true. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| That's why when people say you can't legislate morality, it's like, well, everything is morality. | ||
| Otherwise, otherwise it's not wrong to steal. | ||
| It's just going to cost you some years to steal. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which is a very different way to look at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| All right, shall we switch out ladies? | ||
| We got a couple people waiting in the wings if they want to come over. | ||
| I think we're ready. | ||
|
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Thanks for having us. | |
| Awesome! | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Thanks for coming up. | ||
| I'll leave in two seconds and let them on. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| You can if you want. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We'll lose our master ceremonies, but I'll just talk and do super chats every now and then. | ||
| That'll be fine. | ||
| Do you want me to sit here and wait with you? | ||
| No, you can go. | ||
| No, I'm happy to. | ||
| I actually want to keep doing the show, but I didn't want to If you have to go to the bathroom or anything to read some superchats. | ||
| I want to say so for everybody I said I would do this Lauren go to me. Thank you ladies | ||
| everyone watching look up the Look up the Fatima miracle. It was the largest witnessed | ||
| public miracle. I think of I want to say the past 1500 probably past 2,000 years since | ||
| Revelation is the largest most witnessed Yeah, Our Lady of Fatima is the largest, most witnessed public miracle. | ||
| Um, so please look into that. | ||
| I would also want to advise that everybody say the rosary. | ||
| At least try it if you've never done it before. | ||
| Just look. | ||
| Yeah, I'm serious. | ||
| I think everyone should say it. | ||
| I've never done it. | ||
| Yeah, just look it up. | ||
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For our country? | |
| I would do it for our country. | ||
| For our country. | ||
| On election night. | ||
| Yeah, for our country, for your soul. | ||
| I would just recommend everyone research the rosary and just say a rosary, give it a try, be open-minded even if you're not religious. | ||
| And if you're Catholic, start praying that every day. | ||
| Heck yeah, heck yeah we should. | ||
| Alright, we've got a couple new guests. | ||
| Which one should we start with? | ||
| We have Carrie and we have Andrew from Don't Walk, Run. | ||
| Which one who wants to talk first? | ||
| Andrew likes to talk. | ||
| Let's switch to Andrew. | ||
| It's true and you know it! | ||
| I love Andrew. | ||
| Let me zoom out on his camera a little bit there. | ||
| Take it away, man. | ||
| Okay, I was just looking at Twitter and... | ||
| And everybody is yelling at Fox News because they basically called Virginia. | ||
| And it looks like Trump is leading by 300,000 votes. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| So they're like, Fox News is the worst. | ||
| And it's like, well, they are telling the truth. | ||
| They are tonight! | ||
| Well, in 2016, they were saying the same thing. | ||
| Didn't Fox call it for Pennsylvania earlier on and people lost their minds and then Trump actually won it? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't remember that, but I have to say that that's... | ||
| Why do they call it so early? | ||
| Because they want to be the first? | ||
| No, I think that they just looked at the data. | ||
| It does seem early. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| I think they just looked at the data and that's how they made their appraisal. | ||
| And it's clearly, I mean, they're saying North Carolina was leaning Biden, but it now might be leaning towards Trump. | ||
| That's why they made it gray again. | ||
| People are also saying, oh, Texas is in play. | ||
| Biden's gonna take Texas. | ||
| I'm like, I honestly, I do not. | ||
| I do not see that. | ||
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How about you? | |
| What do you think? | ||
| Well, I'm she's from Texas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And what have you noticed? | ||
| Well, I just got a text from my boyfriend that it looks like Williamson County might be going blue. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Which, Williamson County, if you guys aren't familiar, it's a little bit north of Austin, and it's been red for a while, and I've, you know, I've been noticing just in the short time I've been there that it's changing, and so... You have seen it. | ||
| It's leakage from Austin. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| Yes, there's a lot of social justice, even on the local level. | ||
| Those are some of the elections I'm actually more invested in at the moment, like my city council. | ||
| We have social justice people pushing diversity, inclusion, equity committees. | ||
| At the local level, yes. | ||
| And doing these sort of witch hunts at the school board meetings, where they bring in students to accuse faculty members and school board members of being racist on Zoom calls. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
| But they have an agenda, and they're planning all this out. | ||
| So I've seen this happening around me in my small town, and so yeah, I have been a little worried, I guess, about Texas. | ||
| Yeah, I can see it. | ||
| I mean, it's not unthinkable that Texas would go blue because of all the people moving from California. | ||
| We were discussing this earlier. | ||
| So I really do believe it's in play. | ||
| I hope Texas goes red. | ||
| It going blue would be a game changer, but this is something people have been talking about for years. | ||
| I mean, it's certainly been increasingly possible for that to happen. | ||
| Ted Cruz certainly is very worried about it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, so we'll see. | ||
| So I know, I mentioned earlier that I know some progressives who voted for Trump. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And who've never voted Republican. | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| I love that so much. | ||
| And I know some progressives who are voting for Trump, this is an interesting way of thinking about it, but not because they care so much about whether he wins nationally, but because they want to send a message to Californians that Texas is not going to turn blue, please don't come here anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
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So they were like, I really want it to go red, so they stopped coming. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I was like, that's kind of interesting. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Looking locally. | ||
| So are you optimistic? | ||
| You mentioned that there's a possibility of Texas going blue. | ||
| What do you think is going to happen personally based on your relationships or even just the people you talk to on the streets? | ||
| I'm worried about it, but I think Texas will stay red. | ||
| I'm bad at predictions, though, but I think it will stay red, just because I was also very worried about Beto. | ||
| That was the first time I ever voted Republican. | ||
| I voted for Ted Cruz. | ||
| Against Beto? | ||
| Yeah, against Beto, because Beto was clearly not a liberal. | ||
| He was talking about confiscating guns. | ||
| He was speaking woke ideology. | ||
| Which is not liberal. | ||
| And here's the scary thing. | ||
| Beto actually got a sizable percentage of the vote. | ||
| He was really a challenge for Cruz. | ||
| He was a threat, yeah. | ||
| And this is in Texas, and he said he was going to take people's guns. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Think about that. | ||
| If that doesn't tell you that Texas could go blue, I don't know what will. | ||
| That's a pretty good indicator. | ||
| Plus, with Beto, he never seemed authentic to me. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's one of those people who would say anything to win. | ||
| And so when he was running locally, he was saying, well, I'll take your guns, but not your AR-15s. | ||
| And then as soon as he was running on a national stage, I think he had some focus group who said, OK, well, now you're not running in Texas. | ||
| You're running nationally. | ||
| So now we're going to take the AR-15s. | ||
| Oh, that's fair. | ||
| So he had been saying that prior. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So then he just immediately said, OK, now I'm coming for the AR-15s, too, because I think that's polling well nationally. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Well, that is very slimy and a typical politician move. | ||
| But then I should basically correct what I said, because when he did that well in Texas, he had not yet said he was going to take AR-15s from people. | ||
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Right. | |
| He basically carved them out. | ||
| Typical. | ||
| But the other thing about him that I thought was really phony, and I don't know if you guys noticed this, but he seemed to... I guarantee you he had a speech coach, because he seemed to speak with Obama's cadence and his hand movements, and watching him I was like, oh, he's trying to evoke this Pavlovian dog thing and all the people who voted for and loved Obama, where you're not consciously thinking about it, but you're listening to him and you're like, that makes me feel good in my tummy! | ||
| Oh, it's the Obama way of speaking. | ||
| He had that cadence. | ||
| It sounded like he was trying to rip Obama off all the time, so I just, I never got with him. | ||
| Well, you know, Beto, it's such a weird trend in the last couple years where losers are considered to be competition for, like, the next race. | ||
| Like, if Beto O'Rourke Could not beat Ted Cruz. | ||
| How's he gonna beat Donald Trump? | ||
| That's a very good point. | ||
| And the same thing with Amy McGrath. | ||
| Amy McGrath lost a congressional race. | ||
| And then they go, oh you know what? | ||
| Let's put her up against Mitch McConnell. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, it makes perfect sense. | ||
| Part of me thinks, well, maybe it's because Beto lost, but he did lose Texas, and he did well in Texas relative to how you would expect a Democrat to perform. | ||
| But you make a great point. | ||
| Trump is clearly a much more popular candidate than Ted Cruz. | ||
| And if Beto couldn't beat him, why is he up against Trump? | ||
| Why was he running, not up against Trump, but why was he even in the primaries to possibly be up against Trump? | ||
| I think he thought he had better national appeal. | ||
| I think that's what it was. | ||
| I think that's definitely what it was because again he did do well for somebody running in Texas but... | ||
| None of those people really had that much national appeal, let's be honest. | ||
| Beto would not have won his home state against Trump. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And the same thing with... I mean, it's just so... Oh, like Stacey Abrams. | ||
| A lot of people... The actual mayor, or the actual governor. | ||
| The actual governor! | ||
| Stacey Abrams lost by like 55,000 votes, something like that. | ||
| And so many people were like, you know what? | ||
| You know what would be perfect for her? | ||
| She did the exact same thing the last person who they put up for president did, lost, and then claimed that it's because she got cheated. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's exactly what Hillary did. | ||
| This is what I don't understand. | ||
| The Democrats seem to be choosing the least likable people ever. | ||
| What is their deal, you guys? | ||
| Part of me wonders if, all right, they couldn't really have foreseen COVID. | ||
| So part of me thinks maybe they're like, we're not gonna beat Trump. | ||
| Things are actually going decently well. | ||
| We said he was gonna be the end of the world, that he's Hitler. | ||
| All he had to do is not be Hitler. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he wasn't, so he's probably gonna win re-election. | ||
| So let's just pick a throwaway candidate this time. | ||
| We don't wanna waste anybody good. | ||
| Possibly so. | ||
| And we'll just run him against Trump. | ||
| But now, Things are actually a little bit more dicey than we thought they would be, and Trump actually really does stand a chance of losing compared to where he was, you know, a year ago. | ||
| And so I think Biden was probably a throwaway candidate, and it just happened to be the case that he ended up in an election where he would have a shot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What do you think, Kerry? | ||
| You had a lot of words. | ||
| Well, yeah, when they first picked Biden, I was very confused, and the thought crossed my mind that maybe they don't want to win this one. | ||
| Like you said, throwaway candidates. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Because it's been very good for them generating clicks and outrage, you know, to have Trump in office. | ||
| I was thinking maybe they don't actually want Trump to—it's good for them. | ||
| They raise a lot of money. | ||
| Look at all the money they've raised. | ||
| I mean, Trump is a great lightning rod for them, so maybe they want to keep him around for four years and then run someone they think could win. | ||
| Although, on the other hand, I mean, so I voted for Tulsi Gabbard in the primaries. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| I don't think they would ever let her run. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Well, this is the thing, and Tulsi Gabbard was a moment that I would almost say re-redpilled me. | ||
| There's a statement or a sentiment which has sort of become somewhat of a libertarian banality and one which I don't entirely agree with. | ||
| That basically the two-party system is just a duopoly. | ||
| They're really the same. | ||
| They want the exact same things. | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| I think there really are significant social differences, but... | ||
| When it comes to the warfare issue, that's certainly the case. | ||
| And what was really disturbing to me is that Tulsi Gabbard should have been the ideal candidate for the Democratic Party, right? | ||
| She's relatively progressive. | ||
| She's pro-choice, pro-doesn't-believe-in-traditional-marriage. | ||
| She is not Christian. | ||
| She is a woman. | ||
| I mean, she checked every single box that you could possibly check except She questioned the foreign policy establishment. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And so they hated her. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that was huge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you're correct. | ||
| And it's crazy. | ||
| Hillary Clinton called her a Russian asset. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| I mean, she should have been perfect for them. | ||
| But it was one issue that she just happened to be less bad on than the other Democrats. | ||
| And so they treated her like she was some kind of evil right-wing plant or Russian actor. | ||
| No, it was more than that. | ||
| It wasn't just her foreign policy. | ||
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What else was it? | |
| Well, first of all, for those of you who don't know, she was basically vetted by the DNC to be the future of the party. | ||
| But then when Hillary was facing off against Bernie, And they only had six debates, right? | ||
| And they had something like, they had maybe like two dozen debates with Obama and Hillary. | ||
| And Tulsi flat out questioned that and said, you know, why are we only having six debates? | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| And, you know, her questioning that publicly really rubbed the DNC the wrong way. | ||
| Do you think that's it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's the reason. | ||
| And also, she also got behind Bernie Sanders. | ||
| And that's another problem because he's not a Democrat. | ||
| He was not. | ||
| And I have to say, I think Bernie Sanders is Well, he let them take the nomination from him. | ||
| He didn't fight the way he could have. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| You don't think that matters? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| First of all, the DNC, you know, people can say, well, yes, they had a bias towards Hillary, but he didn't get the vote out. | ||
| He had an amazing grassroots campaign. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So what he should have done since he's a, he's an, he's an independent, right? | ||
| He, he tells himself is I am the most independent, like the longest independent serving in Congress. | ||
| And it's, and that's fine. | ||
| You know, he leans Democrat when it comes to voting and issues. | ||
| But what he should have done was run as an Independent, right? | ||
| Forget about Democrats. | ||
| Why do you think running as an Independent would have helped him? | ||
| Because... You really think he would have a chance as a third party? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| To get into debates, To face off in the presidential debates, not the primaries. | ||
| Forget the primaries. | ||
| Because Bernie only said, he said like one thing over and over again in the debates. | ||
| He brought nothing new to the table. | ||
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It was always like, Donald Trump is the most racist president in the history of the modern, modern history of the country. | |
| Right? | ||
| So he didn't have anything to say. | ||
| Everybody knew where he stood. | ||
| He could have run as an independent. | ||
| He would have had a grassroots campaign. | ||
| He had, he had that grassroots support. | ||
| He didn't, the Democrats could fight all they want, pick Biden, pick whoever. | ||
| Then during the debates, because you only need to be, you only need to poll at least 15% | ||
| in national polling and Bernie Sanders would have definitely had it. | ||
| had 15%. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So he, think about it, all he wanted to do was face off against Trump in a debate, which | ||
| he never got to do. | ||
| That's because he ran as a Democrat, which is stupid. | ||
| Because he ran as a Democrat once and everybody says they screwed him over. | ||
| That's debatable. | ||
| But then it would have been a Biden, I guess, a Biden-Bernie-Trump debate, and Bernie would have totally been able to go after Trump, and he definitely would have seemed more coherent than Biden. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| So, I mean, I fundamentally disagree. | ||
| I disagree on two points, but when it comes to what you're saying about Bernie probably having, or would have having had a better chance had he ran third party, It's an interesting thought, but I don't think he would really have a shot at winning. | ||
| I think he would have done very well. | ||
| I think he probably would have got a sizable percentage of the vote. | ||
| Well, he didn't have a shot at winning as a Democrat either. | ||
| Well, we didn't really think Joe Biden had a shot at winning until all of this chaos broke out. | ||
| I think if Bernie Sanders was the nominee right now, he would probably do better than Joe Biden. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Bernie Sanders, he Remember, Biden was ahead after South Carolina. | ||
| So this is pre-COVID. | ||
| This is pre-civil unrest. | ||
| So this was all people realizing, wow, we cannot vote a Democratic Socialist. | ||
| No, he would have won. | ||
| him the nominee because Trump's just gonna step all over him. | ||
| So they had to go to the next best person, which was Biden. | ||
| And to be fair, I do not think Bernie would have won. | ||
| I think things have gotten crazier in the past couple months. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think that he would have been a better candidate than Joe Biden, I do. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| I do, too. | ||
| And I think, well, take it back to 2016. | ||
| I think you would have done better than than Hillary did. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I knew a lot of people. | ||
| One of the first things that that clued me into the fact that the 2016 election was going to be strange was that I had family members who were lifetime Republicans telling me during the primary season, well, I I don't know who I'm going to vote for. | ||
| I like Trump and I like Bernie. | ||
| And I liked Bernie. | ||
| I was still squarely in the social justice left at that point. | ||
| And I was so confused, like, what's that? | ||
| My conservative uncle likes Bernie? | ||
| But then I started to understand after Trump won, I started trying to figure out why he won. | ||
| And I think there's part of the reason why people vote sometimes is just this emotional thing that someone makes them feel a certain way. | ||
| And I think people had a feeling about Bernie that he's authentic. | ||
| And they also have a feeling about Trump that he's authentic, that he says whatever he thinks, whether you like it or not. | ||
| And so at first I couldn't understand. | ||
| And now, I mean, even in Tim's house, there's like a lot of people like myself who voted for Bernie and then today find themselves voting for Trump. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| I think maybe there's something there that's like emotional that I sort of am like, well... He definitely connects. | ||
| with people more than Hillary ever did. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| And that's not saying a whole lot. | ||
| But that's true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's very much a populist. | ||
| I think that's part of the thing. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Bernie's 100 percent. | ||
| Bernie was very much a populist. | ||
| So was Trump. | ||
| And I think that they have that connection to the people. | ||
| I think that's really valuable. | ||
| It's something that, you know, other people miss a little bit sometimes. | ||
| I think both of them appeal to the working class in a way that Hillary never did and that Joe Biden doesn't. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Well, remember, everybody who's, you know, casting a vote for Biden is it's basically a vote against Trump. | ||
| It's not for Biden. | ||
| 100 percent agree. | ||
| I don't really think. | ||
| Does anyone really like Biden? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| No, I don't think so at all. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And this is what we're saying. | ||
| This is why I think that he was just sort of nominated because they thought, well, we're just this is our burner here. | ||
| We just want to get rid of somebody. | ||
| I think Biden is if people are are if people have any kind of support for Biden, it's one | ||
| because they think that that they can beat Trump, but also because of the nostalgia | ||
| factor because I think so too. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Yeah, they like the Obama. | ||
| And they're like, well, let's let's get let's let's get rid of that Biden care. | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| But I just don't think it's enough. | ||
| Return to normalcy. | ||
| That's I just think of all the candidates the Democrats had and they didn't really have | ||
| any good candidates. | ||
| There was nobody. | ||
| And again, this was a year ago prior to COVID. | ||
| There wasn't a single person that the Democrat that was running for the primary that I thought | ||
| like, oh, this person would really be a serious threat to Trump. | ||
| I just think they were all really unlikable. | ||
| But I think Biden was probably the least likable of them. | ||
| Maybe not the least likable because now I'm remembering. | ||
| Remembering now I'm having flashbacks to like Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris who he | ||
| chose as his VP. | ||
| Yeah, so Booker and Kamala, but again, now one of them is going to be part of his administration | ||
| if he wins and is his running mate. | ||
| So isn't it crazy that out of the dozens, literally dozens of Democratic candidates, | ||
| just, I mean, that's the best they had. | ||
| I mean, that was really sad. | ||
| There were three that were, I would say, the most unlikable for me. | ||
| And I thought about it a lot. | ||
| I don't know why I ranked them. | ||
| Probably Beto, for reasons stated. | ||
| Yes, 100%. | ||
| Booker and Harris. | ||
| And it is shocking to me that they chose her. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| How poorly was she doing when she dropped out? | ||
| Didn't she have like 2% approval rating? | ||
| I think she was at 4% or something, and she was gonna lose California, which was not... Right! | ||
| Insanity! | ||
| That's her own state. | ||
| It's her own state. | ||
| Give me a break, dude. | ||
| And she, remember, she dropped out Before a vote was cast. | ||
| She dropped out in November, I think. | ||
| She was polling very low and she had qualified for the next debate and she ran out of money like that. | ||
| Her campaign was It was being run by her sister and some guy that helped win her Senate seat and they were both conflicting and they were having this like, according to reports that they were just having like all these internal struggles with how things should go and then I remember that she closed down all of her | ||
| New Hampshire offices and I'm like, this is, this is over. | ||
| And it was, I was so happy because she was, and she was just, she's, you talk about people that, that you talk about Beto not being genuine. | ||
| She's even like less, like she's the worst. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Gosh, like nothing but condescension and smugness. | ||
| And I watched the vice presidential debates and I, I just, I felt like, how does anybody She's not likable at all. | ||
| She's awful. | ||
| And, you know, and then of course they have responses. | ||
| You're not allowed to call a woman unlikable. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If she was a man, you would love her. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Now give me a break. | ||
| Well, they tried that with Hillary and Trump's lines. | ||
| They tried using Trump's lines for Hillary. | ||
| I remember when this is going down, they had this mini debate where they're like, oh, we're going to pretend this person who's a male is really Hillary. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, no, they still hate her. | ||
| They still hate her. | ||
| It doesn't matter what gender it is. | ||
| They expected the opposite. | ||
| They gave two actors, a man and a woman. | ||
| They gave the woman all of Trump's lines from the debates and they gave the man all of Clinton's lines. | ||
| And they thought that they would get a reaction that the audience loved Clinton when it was from the voice of a man. | ||
| But they overwhelmed they liked the lady Trump more than they liked actual Trump. Yeah, so funny that makes sense to | ||
| me yeah, I remember watching that and it was funny because | ||
| Hillary actually sounded or the man playing Hillary sounded like a kind of typical patronizing chauvinist. He was so | ||
| yeah Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| And it was awful. | ||
| Their whole point was, look at how, if we reverse the roles, you'd see how terrible what Donald Trump was saying was. | ||
| It was like, no, it was actually the exact opposite. | ||
| Hillary was way less likable as a man. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| Okay, Seamus, I'm going to pass this off to you because I really need to go to the bathroom. | ||
| We're coming up on my two hour mark, and this is usually when I have to go to the bathroom. | ||
| Sorry, guys. | ||
| We'll let you go. | ||
| I will make Seamus read a few super chats. | ||
| We'll look at some states. | ||
| I really want him to look at Virginia. | ||
| Why do I have to do everything? | ||
| Hey, hey, hey, hey! | ||
| You hear the lip this man is giving me? | ||
| Which one do I open? | ||
| It's already up. | ||
| It's right there in front. | ||
| Oh, no, the Virginia one. | ||
| I was curious about the Super Chats. | ||
| Oh, I'll show you. | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| I'll pull up Super Chats for you, and then I gotta go to the bathroom. | ||
|
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Yeah, sure. | |
| I'll be right back. | ||
| I'll have another pee. | ||
| Number one or number two? | ||
| Just one! | ||
|
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I'll be real quick. | |
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| Number four. | ||
| Ooh, the alien movement. | ||
|
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I love it. | |
| It sounds like an alien symphony. | ||
| All right, I'm gonna hand it off to Seamus. | ||
| So Joe Biden has won Virginia. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it looks like. | ||
| But look at those stats, dude. | ||
| But this is why I'm really confused. | ||
| Yeah, so he's getting it. | ||
| So that was confusing to me, too. | ||
| I thought I was reading this wrong. | ||
| No, you're reading it right. | ||
| That's why you're confused. | ||
| Joe Biden has 41% of the vote and Trump has 56% and they're calling it for Joe Biden. | ||
| Right? | ||
| What's up with that? | ||
| Is that because there's some population-dense area that usually goes Democrat? | ||
| Yeah, I think they're... Yeah, that's just like exit polling, too. | ||
| Probably so. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Seamus, I'm switching to you. | ||
| You've got the camera. | ||
| We can't switch while I'm gone, but I'll be right back. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| So, here, the camera's just on me? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| Well, now I just get to talk smack to everyone on the panel. | ||
| They don't get a chance to respond. | ||
| Read some superchats, Seamus. | ||
| I will read some superchats for everybody. | ||
| I'll be right back. | ||
| So, hey, Tim and crew. | ||
| This is from Phil S. Hey, Tim and crew. | ||
| Much appreciation for what you guys do. | ||
| As a guy who's in your age group, good to see my generation stepping up. | ||
| Hashtag Rhode Island Red Surge. | ||
|
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Cool. | |
| Thank you so much, Phil. | ||
| We've also got from Mooser6. | ||
| Thank you for the conversations here. | ||
| It helped influence my wife and I's votes. | ||
| Would the TimCast group ever consider sponsoring... Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| We already read this one. | ||
| Amateur race car team. | ||
| He got his bang for his buck, though, because he got his super chat read twice. | ||
| You know, I have to say real quick, I hear the race car, and I'm thinking that movie Drive with Ryan Gosling. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I remember that one. | ||
| They were going to sponsor... Albert Brooks was going to sponsor Ryan Gosling and his race car and Breaking Bad Man. | ||
| I can't remember any characters. | ||
| Breaking Bad Man, the main character? | ||
| The mechanic, Ryan Gosling's friend in Drive. | ||
| The guy that gets cut up really bad. | ||
|
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Yeah, I know who you're talking about. | |
| Heisenberg. | ||
| Um, so we've got from Zane Bruce. | ||
| I was Yang Gang. | ||
| How's it going? | ||
| Thank you for your donation. | ||
| I was Yang Gang, voted Trump. | ||
| I think Yang was the Bernie in terms of non-establishment working class type candidate, but media screwed Yang hard, thought Yang was decently likable. | ||
| I mean, I thought Yang was pretty likable as a candidate. | ||
| I would put him in that same group of people about when people make decisions based on emotion or on who they think is authentic and they're not so much looking at policy. | ||
| I think people, Bernie comes off as authentic, Tulsi came off as authentic, and I would say also Yang. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Andrew Yang was a terrible candidate. | ||
| Terrible candidate. | ||
| He was a one-line, like a one-policy man, which was the freedom to them. | ||
| You know, it's like everything he's like, oh, well, you know, we got to If you want to cut down on crime in the prison population, everybody gets $1,000 a month. | ||
| He was like a game show host. | ||
| But how did you feel about him? | ||
| Did you feel he was well-intentioned? | ||
| I thought he was stupid. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You thought he was stupid, but she's asking, is this the kind of person who you could understand why people would appreciate the appeal of? | ||
| Because I agree with what you're saying that UBI is a bad policy and it was kind of gimmicky, but at the same time, he was clearly a likable candidate. | ||
| I wouldn't call him stupid. | ||
| He was wrong, but he was one of the smarter people on that stage. | ||
| And that's not saying much, but if you actually see the conversations he had or his in-depth interview with Joe Rogan, it was clear he knew what he was talking about. | ||
| No, he was smart. | ||
| I agree to disagree. | ||
| First of all, I think that his slogan, math, make America think harder, I think that's such a condescending It's such a condescending slogan. | ||
|
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I would agree with that. | |
| It really is. | ||
| Make America think smarter, you know, or think harder. | ||
| I think Andrew Yang was, again, it's like he tried to, they would say, well, he'd talk about, you know, like, at the debates, talk about foreign policy. | ||
| How would you do this? | ||
| Well, the freedom dividend would, like, he just, that's, he tried to. | ||
| That's all he talked about. | ||
| He tried to shoehorn it in to every little thing he did. | ||
| And that's the only thing he had. | ||
| And he was totally wrong about it, too. | ||
| He's like, well, he, oh, Martin Martin Luther King! | ||
| Martin Luther King was in for UBI. | ||
| Do you think Martin Luther King wanted to give the rich white people $1,000 a month and also the poor people? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
| Because guess what? | ||
| That's not going to do anything for their inequity. | ||
| It's just everybody's going to have $1,000 more. | ||
| The fact is that when Joe Rogan, when he was on Joe Rogan, he said, well, you know, if you get a thousand dollars a month, Joe Rogan, you're not going to spend it. | ||
| You're probably just going to put it away. | ||
| And that's what a lot of rich, it's supposed to be stimulus. | ||
| And a lot of rich people would have just. | ||
| Socked it away. | ||
| I know I got my stimulus check, not that I'm a rich person, but I got my stimulus check and I didn't go spend it on anything. | ||
| It's just still on the card that they say, you know? | ||
| One thing people don't realize about UBI either is there are people who they're trying really hard at a hobby that they want to make into a career, right? | ||
| And they don't make enough money to live off of it. | ||
| But they could make enough money to live off it if they were getting an extra $1,000 a month. | ||
| Point is, when you give people extra money to subsidize their lifestyle, whatever they're choosing, then they don't place themselves in an area where they're going to be maximally productive for the rest of the population because there's no longer that necessity for them. | ||
| And so, like, this was an argument made by somebody, and I read this, but I thought it was interesting. | ||
| I mean, it's really difficult to the point where you could make a full-time living doing what we do, for example. | ||
| It takes quite a while. | ||
| And many people try and they're not able to. | ||
| But to be able to get to the point where you could be making a living doing this, | ||
| if you were also receiving a thousand dollars a month, is a little bit easier. | ||
| And so you would actually, I think you would end up with an economy flooded by people trying to pursue careers | ||
| that were really, really in extremely low demand, but they were able to scrape together just enough combined | ||
| with their UBI to make a living off of it. | ||
| And then careers which really were in demand would be underserved as a result. | ||
| I mean, and this is also why central planning generally doesn't work. | ||
| There are so many different nuances to an economy and production that to just throw money, | ||
| even if you're throwing money at everyone equally, it's going to screw the entire equilibrium up and you're | ||
| not going to end up producing the things that people need. | ||
| We'll see you next time. | ||
| Which is pretty much what an economy is supposed to do, right? | ||
| Seems like an issue, yeah. | ||
| Seems like kind of a problem. | ||
| So you're saying there's a lot of plumbers who would- Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Pursue their artistic- Exactly. | ||
| A lot of plumbers who would start Twitch streaming. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
|
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It could be a problem. | |
| Well, you know, that was part of the argument, where, you know, well, you could do more artistic things if you have this money. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's like, well, that's, no, that's not going to help the GDP. | ||
| You know, he's... Well, no, but yeah, but here's the thing, and that's the fatal flaw of a command economy. | ||
| For somebody to say that, for somebody to say, well, more people could be artists if we have a UBI. | ||
| Okay, well, you are arbitrarily deciding that the economy needs more artists. | ||
| Who says it does? | ||
| Uh, and it usually doesn't, which sounds like a little ironic coming from me. | ||
| I mean, I make cartoons for a living, but the reality is, um, there are, if, if, if everybody, uh, who just wanted to pursue any career was, was able to do so with this cushion, then yet people would not end up in the positions where we need them and where they can best serve others. | ||
| Uh, we have a super chat. | ||
| from Blaga19. | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| Who said, this is a very nice super chat. | ||
| Seamus Coghlan is literally my favorite TimCast IRL guest. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| Please give him some of this. | ||
| Screw you. | ||
| Oh, snap. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I'm winning, Andrew. | ||
| I'm on top. | ||
| Top dog. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Tim, this person specifically asked for me to be given a portion of this super chat. | ||
| I guess we could do that. | ||
| I think Bucko is my favorite. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Do you want the captain's seat back, buddy? | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| OK. | ||
| I love you guys. | ||
| I'll miss you. | ||
| I know it's warm. | ||
| I'm sorry, sir. | ||
| I'm heartbroken. | ||
| Tim, it's all yours. | ||
| We're switching over. | ||
| Shall we switch? | ||
| Should we have Jack come on? | ||
| What do you think, man? | ||
| Jack. | ||
| Jack, Jack, Jack. | ||
| Thank you guys so much. | ||
| Thank you, Andrew. | ||
| Thank you, Kerry. | ||
|
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538. | |
| Thank you. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| No, I just saw something funny. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| Tell us, Timothy. | ||
| Let me, uh, pull up 530. | ||
| Sir Timothy is here. | ||
| He's taking command. | ||
| He's controlling the ship with his voice. | ||
| I think I'm going to pull up something that's going to make me laugh. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| And for, for the record, I do like Seamus a lot. | ||
| Of course we do. | ||
| I'm glad that you guys had like a contentious conversation. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| You know, like agree to disagree, but he's very, he's a very talented guy and uh... You're allowed to disagree. | ||
| It turns out. | ||
| Well, I, I do that. | ||
| I tend to do that. | ||
| It's all good. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
|
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I like disagreeing with people. | |
| I don't know how to pull this up on FiveThirtyEight. | ||
| I think agreeing with people all the time is boring. | ||
| Welcome back, Tim. | ||
| And hello, Jack. | ||
| We have Jack. | ||
| Look at this nonsense. | ||
| Here he is. | ||
| Ooh, I'm gonna have to adjust that frame. | ||
| What do we think? | ||
| Nah, it's fine. | ||
| Jack's 6'2". | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's all. | ||
|
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6'4". | |
| Holy snap. | ||
| So I just saw someone said that 538 is now giving the election is toss-up territory. | ||
| I've been saying that for months. | ||
| Up a little bit? | ||
| How's that, Jack? | ||
| I'm Nate Silver. | ||
| You are Nate Silver. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I did not know Nate Silver looked like that. | ||
| I don't know how to pull up their current forecast, though, based on the... Oh, interesting. | ||
| I just saw it on Twitter. | ||
| Did it just change? | ||
| Yeah, it's live, so I can't... Ugh, irritating. | ||
| Their final forecast is Trump 1 in 10, but I did see they pushed it up on Twitter to 30. | ||
| Actually, let me pull it up on Twitter. | ||
| They just called South Carolina on Fox. | ||
| Trump with 56% of the vote. | ||
| Nine electoral votes in South Carolina. | ||
|
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Oh, wow. | |
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cool, cool, cool. | ||
| I mean, and then, oh, and Lindsey Graham. | ||
| Lindsey Graham beat Jamie Harrison. | ||
| Winning his thingy? | ||
| Excellent! | ||
| Which, I mean, look. | ||
| I don't even like the man. | ||
| I don't care at this point. | ||
| I'm not a... I can't say that I'm a fan of Lindsey Graham at this point anymore. | ||
| But for the left to hype up Jamie Harrison and it was the... I think he received more money than any other candidate in any Senate race ever. | ||
| And that's huge. | ||
| He's spending a lot. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| Like $150 million if I... | ||
| Remember correctly? | ||
| Jack, do you know that stat? | ||
| I do not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to zoom out a little bit on Jack. | ||
| I mean, I'm happy that you're here. | ||
| No, let me do that. | ||
| You want to zoom out a little bit for me? | ||
| Awesome. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| We're going to adjust this in real time. | ||
| Oh, snap. | ||
| Oh, look at Jack. | ||
| Oh, he's looking well. | ||
| Looking well. | ||
| How's that? | ||
| That looks good. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Jack Canty et al. | ||
| Very handsome man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
|
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Thank you very much. | |
| I'm back. | ||
| Jack Murphy Live on Twitter and YouTube. | ||
|
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I'm anywhere. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Jack Murphy Live. | ||
| This thing updates so much. | ||
| I can't figure out where it is. | ||
| What the heck? | ||
| They say their final forecast from the previous night still shows Trump 1 in 10, but I know their latest update is Trump with a 31% chance of winning. | ||
| I saw there was another update, but it's gone already because 538 is really annoying to actually try and read. | ||
| 538, I like their graphics, but they're kind of annoying. | ||
| There it is. | ||
|
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Oh shit. | |
| Oh no, this is Ohio. | ||
| Pardon my French. | ||
| Ohio is toss-up territory and they're giving Trump a 55 in 100. | ||
| I know, it's terrible. | ||
| Well, the latest I've seen is that Trump has tripled his chance of winning. | ||
| That is really interesting. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Do you believe this to be the case, sir? | ||
| Oh man, didn't they recall Virginia already? | ||
| They did. | ||
| Yeah, CNN did. | ||
| Walking back there, their early call with so many votes coming in still, I guess there's a whole dump of mail-in ballots to be counted still from Northern Virginia. | ||
| No, no, that can't be true because they called Hickenlooper for Colorado. | ||
| That means what about the mail-in ballots in Colorado that need to be counted? | ||
| It's all mail-in ballots in Colorado, right? | ||
| I just report the news. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| It would be a big deal if Virginia broke their sort of tectonic slide into perpetual bluedom. | ||
| That would be wonderful. | ||
| Whenever I've been considering where I'm going to bug out to, Virginia is a great place, but no confidence in its politics. | ||
| How many electoral votes for Virginia? | ||
| 18, 16, something like that. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| If Trump ends up actually winning Virginia, Whoa. | ||
| But this is crazy. | ||
| Um, the current vote total in Illinois is, is getting people in Illinois worried. | ||
| I have people hitting me up in Illinois saying it's like 46.4 for Trump. | ||
|
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Whoa. | |
| Like that's, that's close. | ||
| Now, Illinois is not a lot, you know, uh, reporting in and I don't believe it, but | ||
| I'm just like, I don't know the people I know in Chicago are like, what is this? | ||
| Yeah, I'm skeptical. | ||
| No, for sure. | ||
| Look, the election in old times may have come down to, do you want to have higher taxes, lower taxes? | ||
| Do you want a new deal? | ||
| Do you want to have this? | ||
| Right now, people are defending themselves. | ||
| They've been insulted for four years. | ||
| They've been demonized, dehumanized. | ||
| They've been called terrible names. | ||
| This is a vote of self-defense. | ||
| Scott Adams predicted a while back that Trump supporters were going to be hunted down and shot, and we saw it happen in Portland. | ||
|
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He was correct. | |
| We saw those people get killed out there. | ||
| I've felt people stalking me just because I'm a Trump supporter. | ||
| It's happened to me. | ||
| People are voting to save their lives. | ||
| They're voting to defend themselves against a whole sort of half of the country and all the institutions of government that just want to tell them that they're terrible people. | ||
| That's a motivating factor to come out and finally just be like, no, we're going to take it back from the cities and we're going to make ourselves heard and we're going to stand up for ourselves. | ||
| Low information voters. | ||
| Who? | ||
| How do you deal with that? | ||
| I mean, you've got people who have been paying attention who are saying right now, I'm sick and tired of being abused and insulted and berated. | ||
| But I look at some of my friends who are out in California and they're just like, uh, I'm gonna vote for Biden. | ||
| And I'm like, why? | ||
| And they're like, because Trump's destroying democracy. | ||
| And I'm like, how? | ||
| And they're like, dude, are you serious? | ||
| And I'm like, I am, dude. | ||
| Oh, we got polls closing. | ||
| 14 seconds. | ||
| By the millisecond. | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| The amount of information I have to give to someone to explain to them. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| So what happens is you got a bunch of people sitting there and then along comes Lady Gaga and she's like, I'm going to vote for Joe Biden. | ||
| And she convinced 10 million people. | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| Nobody was convinced by that. | ||
| But, uh, you do get a lot of celebrities. | ||
| You get, like, Taylor Swift. | ||
| And she comes out and says, vote Biden. | ||
| And a bunch of low-information voters are gonna be like, yeah! | ||
| And they're gonna go vote. | ||
| Indeed, but low information voters, it sounds like an insult, but most people are rationally uninformed. | ||
| It's not an insult. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They're rationally uninformed. | ||
| It makes sense to not be informed. | ||
| But even if you're quote, uninformed, you still hear white guys are the devil, men are the devil, the patriarchy is the devil. | ||
| And after a while you just get tired of being called the bad guy and you're going to do something about it. | ||
| Yeah, but are, I mean, is the white working class, are the projections good for Trump in terms of white working class votes? | ||
| You know, I don't have the breakdown in front of me, Tim. | ||
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My monitor, my monitor went down. | |
| But you know, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it's interesting to see how the Latino vote turned out for Trump in Florida. | ||
| We talked about that here after the, one of the debates when the Telemundo poll afterwards said that Trump decisively won. | ||
| It was a Twitter poll. | ||
| Twitter poll. | ||
| But it is Spanish speakers who are following Telemundo, not English speakers. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| And, you know, we talked about there how, like, Latino culture is based in machismo. | ||
| It's based on strong male leadership. | ||
| They're Christians or Catholics. | ||
| They're not into a lot of modernity, as it were. | ||
| And so it was always seemed stupid to me to have Latino voters just lumped in with POCs and immigrants and, you know, African-Americans who've been here since, you know, 16, 16, 19. | ||
| It's not at all the same. | ||
| You know, it's not at all the same. | ||
| And so there's the like, you know, critical race, you know, race mongers on Twitter are already saying like, oh, Cubans aren't actual real Latinos. | ||
| And now Latino voters are the erasure. | ||
| This is the great erasure of the Latino vote. | ||
| They're saying Cubans aren't Latinos now. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| A lot of these woke people are like, they are not Latinos. | ||
| That's amazing to me. | ||
| That's shocking to me. | ||
| That disgusts me because those are the people who survived socialism. | ||
| Those are the people who survived, who came across on maps. | ||
| Well, remember... It looks like Trump is winning Ohio. | ||
| Joe Biden, remember that Joe Biden said that, you know, the Latino community is a very diverse community with very diverse thoughts. | ||
| He was right about that. | ||
| He was right about that. | ||
| But, you know, the African American community... Unlike the other community. | ||
| They're a monolith. | ||
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Yeah, give me a break. | |
| You ain't whack. | ||
| Which is, which is just, you know, they were saying, oh, they didn't mean like culturally. | ||
| He meant politically. | ||
| It's like, that's still bad. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's still, that's still not a good thing to say. | ||
| I mean, everybody, you can't lump everybody into one community, you know, or it's, it's just, I do not understand how anybody can, how anybody can hear all these things about Joe Biden and say, Well, you know, Trump's the racist. | ||
| I don't understand how people come to that conclusion. | ||
| Up is down, down is up. | ||
| TV and low information voters. | ||
| So look, when I say low information voters, I'm not saying stupid voters. | ||
| I'm saying most people, it's not their job to read the news all day, every day. | ||
| So I was, I was actually insulting my friend. | ||
| He's like, I got no idea what I'm doing. | ||
| But there are a lot of people who are like, wow, it sounds like what they're saying on news is really bad. | ||
| I better go vote. | ||
| And then in order, so I'll put it this way. | ||
| I believe it is a lot easier to get a low information voter motivated to vote how you want than it is to convince them with all of your knowledge and information to vote correctly. | ||
| Well, there's another, there's another term for low information voter. | ||
| In their interests. | ||
| Orange man bad? | ||
| There's another term for a low information voter and that's sheep, you know, and and that's that's the problem when you | ||
| when you watch CNN and you go Uh, wow, they're they're saying all these things and right | ||
| i'm not orange man bad. I'm not gonna look it up I'm not gonna I mean i'm just gonna take their word for it | ||
|
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because you know, it's their cnn Well when when you don't actually watch trump's speeches | |
| and you only listen to what cnn is saying about him Because I notice that when people pay attention to what | ||
| trump is actually saying when they go and listen to his speeches. They're like | ||
| Well, I got it. | ||
| Well, that's a good. | ||
| That's an interesting point, because when Trump had that rally in Tulsa a few months ago, back in June, I guess, May or June, CNN didn't show the speech. | ||
| What they showed was a wide shot of the speech and they were commenting on what he was saying. | ||
| So when Trump said something like, you know, I tell them, you know, the more cases, the more testing we have, the more cases we have. | ||
| So slow the testing down, please. | ||
| And that's, and that was a joke, right? | ||
| It was a stupid joke. | ||
| It's something he shouldn't have said, but then CNN goes, You hear that? | ||
| He said it. | ||
| He said to slow the testing down. | ||
| Can you believe it? | ||
| It's like, he said the quiet part out loud. | ||
| And it's like, if you watched him say it compared to, you know, what CNN is saying and how they're spinning it. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| They don't, they don't show what he says. | ||
| They just say what he wants to say. | ||
| The disinfecting thing I thought was interesting because it's almost like a bell curve of a stupid question where on the really high end, you probably roll your eyes and say, Trump, no. | ||
| But then at a certain point, you're like, it's good that you're asking these questions because we ask weird questions sometimes to try and come up with solutions. | ||
| And then it was really funny that a bunch of Trump supporters started showing UV light disinfectants that you actually do put down your lungs. | ||
| They exist. | ||
| They do exist, they're really interesting. | ||
| There are chemical treatments that you could inject, but what Trump was talking about and | ||
| the way he asked it was just like, they were like, you can use surface cleaners to disinfect | ||
| things and Trump's like, I wonder if you can disinfect by injecting or inhaling. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, it's like, that's called medicine. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Interestingly, though, all these Trump supporters immediately found this, like, new technology, which is a UV light wand. | ||
| They lower down the throat into the lungs, because it actually does disinfect and kill, like, bacteria and stuff. | ||
| Kind of cool. | ||
| It's like Trump accidentally, like, was kind of onto something. | ||
| And before I go, I want to say that, you know, at the debate, when Joe Biden and Joe Biden keep saying this, he's like, well, Trump said, he said it. | ||
| You heard him say it. | ||
| He said to, he told people to inject bleach to kill the virus. | ||
| It's like, he didn't say that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So at the debates, Biden goes, uh, he said it, he said it over there. | ||
| He said to inject it. | ||
| And he's like, it was a joke. | ||
| It's like, no, it wasn't a joke. | ||
| You didn't say it. | ||
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You didn't say like Trump. | |
| I know, right? | ||
| It's so hard. | ||
| It's so hard to defend him sometimes. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| You don't have to defend him. | ||
| No, I want to defend him because, look, all these fact checks from the last debate had | ||
| Trump going, you know, Trump said this thing. | ||
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This is false. | |
| Definitively false. | ||
| But with Biden, it's like, needs context. | ||
| Or slightly misleading. | ||
| You know what really has me ticked off? | ||
| There's one fact check they never did. | ||
| And they never fact check when Joe Biden, on a stage at a rally, said, No fact check. | ||
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What are you supposed to do with that? | |
| But I mean, to be fair, like, the media didn't say anything. | ||
| Literally, yeah. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| They put on Wikipedia right they name horses after it. They're all like a beefy. What an idiot | ||
| It was clearly a typo on Twitter, dude Well, my my thing is that you know, Joe Biden has been in | ||
| he was in the Senate for 36 years he was vice president for eight years and | ||
| now Now he's gonna | ||
| Now he's alright now. Finally. He's gonna I'm gonna bring everybody. Sure. Sure. I | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| I'm imagining, I'm imagining, it's like Joe Biden looks at his watch, he looks at the calendar and he marks a day and it says 47 years, and then he goes, today's finally the day. | ||
| And then he circles the day and it's like, do things for people. | ||
| And that was it. | ||
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Now he's like, I'm gonna do stuff for people. | |
| I saw I saw you look at your digital watch. | ||
| And that reminds me when Biden looked at his digital watch. | ||
| And I'm thinking, were there notes on his little Apple Watch? | ||
| Like, I wonder if somebody was somebody like nobody questioned this. | ||
| Was somebody like sending him like little texts like, Oh, you got his name's not George. | ||
| It's it's Trump. | ||
| You know, just a heads up, just remember. | ||
| No, I get text messages on my watch. | ||
| At worst, at least it was just Biden being like, man, it's tired. | ||
| I'm late. | ||
| It's late. | ||
| I want to get out of here. | ||
| We have to do the wrestling tag. | ||
| Oh yeah, we're doing it. | ||
| Here's our new lady, Celine Ryan. | ||
| I'm very excited to have her. | ||
| Who is this? | ||
| Who is this person? | ||
| Who is this person? | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Okay, hold on. | ||
| Jack was saying something. | ||
| Let's continue with Jack. | ||
| I was just talking about how Joe Biden checking his watch at the debate is more of a sign of his having low stamina. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Wanting to get out of there. | ||
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He's like, man, like literally, dude, like what time is it? | |
| Because Tim, when I'm here on the show with you, I never check my watch, man. | ||
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For sure. | |
| It's interesting. | ||
| By the time we're like, hey, we've gone over, I'm like, whoa, we just started. | ||
| We just started, yeah. | ||
| Time flies when you're having fun, when you're prepared. | ||
| We always end up going over with you, too. | ||
| We do. | ||
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We do. | |
| We always do. | ||
| Yeah, I'm like, we can't just stop. | ||
|
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Who are you? | |
| I am a reporter. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
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Hello. | |
| Who am I? | ||
| I am Celine. | ||
| Do you want to pull that up a little bit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How about you make out with that microphone a little bit for me. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| You're a reporter, aren't you? | ||
|
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I am a reporter. | |
| I am an editor with Campus Reform. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| I didn't know any of this about you. | ||
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You did not. | |
| I'm an editor with Campus Reform, so we have student journalists all across the country reporting on leftists biased on campus, which is obviously a huge issue. | ||
| But then I also do stuff on the side with human events and post-millennial. | ||
| So if Joe Biden wins, it's the apocalypse. | ||
| I know that's a joke, but I know they're gonna clip it and be like, aha! | ||
| We got him! | ||
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I mean, personally, I feel like it's been the apocalypse just for the past, like, four years because my view is so focused on the campus, what's going on on campus, and just the reaction to Trump being the president for the last few years. | |
| If you were there and you were seeing what these kids on college campuses are seeing, you would think it was The way they're acting. | ||
| Have you guys ever seen This Is The End? | ||
| I have, yeah. | ||
| It's like basically every comedian, every actor. | ||
| And then the world ends and they're at James Franco's house. | ||
| And they're all freaking out. | ||
| That's what the college campuses are like emotionally for these people. | ||
| I don't know if you guys saw that video from today where the guy's like, I guess he's in the rain. | ||
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And he's like, this is not normal! | |
| And I'm like, geez, dude. | ||
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His point was that it was normal. | |
| He was like, if you're acting like me, this is normal. | ||
| I'm being normal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, you're not! | ||
| You're really not, dude. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| So, uh, well, as of right now, it looks like, according to the New York Times, Donald Trump is leading in Ohio. | ||
| But here's what I love. | ||
| They're like, with 70% of estimated votes reported, Trump is at 50.8%. | ||
| But just so you know, Interesting. | ||
| That is what I saw in Colorado! | ||
| I saw this person that I know voted in Colorado and they're like, well you have until the 12th to figure out your signature, your signature situation. | ||
| Most marked ballots have until November 13th to arrive, but no additional results will | ||
| be reported for at least a week and a half. | ||
| That is what I saw in Colorado. | ||
| I saw this person that I know voted in Colorado, and they're like, well, you have until the | ||
| 12th to figure out your signature, your signature situation. | ||
| I'm like, that's a long time. | ||
| We're not voting on the 12th, we're voting on the 3rd. | ||
| So we're going to be sitting here for a week? | ||
| Right! | ||
| I wanted to flip the desk over and start destroying things. | ||
| You can't see, but we've got axes set up and we're like, as soon as Biden wins, I'm kidding. | ||
| No, no, no, we already got none of that. | ||
| TikTok videos for days. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Trump's winning in Pennsylvania right now with 24% reporting. | ||
| Guys, my prediction, I've made only one prediction. | ||
| I think that Trump will win Pennsylvania. | ||
| Call me crazy. | ||
| I don't really care what you call me. | ||
| I do think he's going to win Pennsylvania. | ||
| Celine, am I crazy? | ||
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I don't think you're crazy, but Pennsylvania has been the one that I've been like very just kind of apprehensive about just because I think that a lot hinges on Pennsylvania and I go back and forth. | |
| But I don't think you're so crazy. | ||
| I think it could happen. | ||
| OK, cool, cool, cool. | ||
| Jack, do you think I'm crazy? | ||
| I don't think you're crazy. | ||
| In fact, Pennsylvania has been the keystone of this entire thing, and it was in 2016 as well, which is why I went up to both central, sort of south-central Pennsylvania, as well as up into the Lehigh Valley to interview people, Democrats as deplorable voters. | ||
| We just camped out in stores and restaurants and bars and interviewed political officials and party officials from GOP. | ||
| Former Democrats, immigrants, all kinds of people up there in the Lehigh Valley. | ||
| And that is a place that had a shift away, a shift from blue to red. | ||
| And the rest of the central and western part of Pennsylvania, very strongly red. | ||
| And central Pennsylvania, last time in 2016, Romney counties doubled in their support when they went for Trump. | ||
| So Pennsylvania has always been a complicated case, and it's certainly the keystone here. | ||
| And we're all waiting to see what happens. | ||
| I'm happy to see him pulling ahead in those polls right now. | ||
| So you know how, I think it's Nebraska and Maine, they split their electoral votes? | ||
| I was just talking to someone downstairs, I think it was Brett, I'm not sure, but they were saying that if we did that system for every state, Romney would have won in 2012. | ||
| Goodness. | ||
| I don't know if that's true, but... Really? | ||
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Interesting. | |
| Yeah, because a lot of states are winner-take-all. | ||
| If they actually split off, then you'd have only these urban centers. | ||
| You know, I was not involved in politics or paying too much attention to the presidential campaign in 2012. | ||
| The only thing I remember from 2012 is binders full of women. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the only thing I remember as a purposeful, low information, deliberately ignorant voter at the time. | ||
| I don't think I voted in 2012. | ||
| I did in 2008 for Obama, of course. | ||
| But, uh, that's the only thing I remember because it was like memed into my brain. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, so that's a good example of like how, even if you're like deliberately not paying attention to politics, the good memes, they make it all the way to people who are totally got everything tuned out. | ||
| And so BINDERS FULL OF WOMEN to me at first, I was like, Oh, that sounds terrible. | ||
| But then I realized what it meant and what the context was. | ||
| And the fact that he was like trying to hire a bunch of women. | ||
| He was trying to hire a bunch of women. | ||
| I got stacks. | ||
| If he just would have said, I have stacks of resumes over here. | ||
| That would have been fantastic. | ||
| It would have gone over completely. | ||
| Finding little women, that's a little bit different. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Little different. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And the truth is, you know, Tim, as you know, talking all the time, you're going to make some mistakes. | ||
| You say things like cop chopter, but then you just keep rolling. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| So it's a little disingenuous of people to be trying to hold people to gaffs and this and misspeaking. | ||
| You say 50 million words a day, you're going to stumble over a number of them. | ||
| It's when they're consistent. | ||
| It's when you say things like, 200 million people have died, or you say... No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| He said, will die by the time I finish this talk. | ||
| And then we have the art. | ||
| It's one of my favorite pieces from George Alexopoulos, so I have it in my office. | ||
| I wish we had it. | ||
| It's Joe Biden saying, it's an actual quote. | ||
| It is estimated by the time I finish this talk, 200 million people will die. | ||
| From that, he then creates more panels where then Biden says, and that time is now! | ||
| And then he fires lightning from his hands. | ||
| And vaporizes the entire audience. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| And in the debate, you know, the moderator could have called Biden on it. | ||
| He said, more people are going to die in the next two months than have all year. | ||
| I mean, that is just blatant lies and fear mongering. | ||
| That wasn't even a mistake. | ||
| I think Washington Post and CNN did call him a liar. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| Yeah, they were like, that's just, or no, Biden said that if Trump did this right, no one would have died. | ||
| And they were all like, whoa, okay, dude, that one was over the top. | ||
| Normally, you know, the media was like, Biden, come on, you know, we're trying to lie for you. | ||
| Why are you making it so hard? | ||
| Complicated. | ||
| Why did you say that? | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| Well, that's what Kristen Welker said when Trump was like, are you going to shut down the oil industry? | ||
| Oil industry. | ||
| And then Biden goes, we're going to transition away from oil. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then she goes, why would you do that? | ||
| She didn't say, no, why would you trans- like I think a legitimate | ||
| journalistic question, response would have been, why would you | ||
| want to transition from oil? | ||
| Instead she goes, why did you do that? | ||
| Or like, why would you do that? | ||
| And it sounded like she was actually saying, why would you say yes? | ||
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Why would you add that yes to the end of the sentence? | |
| Because the transition part could have just been totally just... I'm into it. | ||
| Did Biden run a better campaign than Hillary? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Is he a better candidate than Hillary? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| No, he's a corporeal form. | ||
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That's what the Atlantic said. | |
| Just stay alive. | ||
| Stay alive, Joe Biden. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's not motivating to people. | ||
| You know, I'm kind of curious what happens when we have a weekend at Bernie's president, you know, like Joe Biden is going to be in the Oval Office just like And he's going to be in a wheelchair with a blanket on his lap and we're going to be like, we have no president. | ||
| I mean, there was some question about Reagan's ability to conduct the affairs of the office near the end of his term. | ||
| Oh, he was out of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't he like think that movie War Games or whatever, that kid playing the computer was a real thing? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| We do know the only winning move is not to play. | ||
| That's my Janet that's coming out. | ||
| It would be funny if, you know, Joe Biden was a week in at Bernie's president, like in the fact that he wasn't doing anything. | ||
| But we know Kamala Harris will be the one. | ||
| Her hand will be on his wrist while he's signing things. | ||
| And that's what she's there for. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He'll start to interrupt her and he'll go, I'm speaking. | ||
| I'm speaking, Joe. | ||
| Joe. | ||
| Turning on a shower of pressure. | ||
| Batacath care. | ||
| Batacath care? | ||
| I'm not gonna get over that because it's like, it's one thing when he stumbles and mutters, it's another thing when he mutters and jams all these words together and it's like, what? | ||
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Like they're just the words that he's been like practicing that are just ingrained in his head and they're all just like... They all push together? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I think it is though? | ||
| I think you made a good point when you said he's old and he's like looking at his watch. | ||
| I think he's trying to rush through it. | ||
| I think he's like, I gotta say these things and I'm done. | ||
| So he's going like this to the teleprompter, like, come on, get it going. | ||
| You know, we're gonna raise taxes on everyone. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| You know, the thing. | ||
| Skip to the bottom. | ||
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Skip to the bottom. | |
| Speaking of the thing, someone brought a cake and it says, congratulations on, you know, the thing. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Fatty, now eat some cake. | ||
| Someone brought a cake that says that. | ||
| Yeah, so I was just downstairs just kind of chilling. | ||
| Everybody's watching. | ||
| I played a couple games of skee-ball. | ||
| In Tim's arcade down there. | ||
| Well, we just have, we just have skee-ball, that's about it. | ||
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You have a slot machine. | |
| Yeah, but that's not, you know. | ||
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Slot machine plus skee-ball, that counts as an arcade. | |
| We got it at an antique store. | ||
| So, we're gonna, what, sit here until... They're not gonna call it for anybody. | ||
| Tim, will you read us the states real quick? | ||
| Read us the states. | ||
| Yeah, tell us what we're up to right now. | ||
| Tell us how Trump's doing. | ||
| I'm kind of curious. | ||
| Well, the New York Times has different numbers than Fox and CNN. | ||
| Everybody's got different numbers, right? | ||
| All right. | ||
| Trump's still lagging. | ||
| The New York Times has Donald Trump with the popular vote at 2.5 points, but Joe Biden has the electoral lead at 131 to Trump's 98. | ||
| And I mean, Trump is up in Pennsylvania by almost, by 5.3 points. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Trump is up in Ohio now by what looks like, what is that? | ||
| Uh, 3.8, I believe North Carolina has a Trump lead by only 0.6. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We got some, we got some predictometers, Georgia. | ||
| They're predicting all these for Trump. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Out of the, this is, this is, this is kind of crazy. | ||
| Arizona's going heavy for Biden right now with 73% reporting Biden is up nine in Arizona, according to the New York Times. | ||
| That's really weird because I was told just a little bit ago that Arizona went for Biden. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry, Biden. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Did I say Trump? | |
| Yeah, you did say Trump. | ||
| I meant Biden. | ||
| Okay, cool, cool. | ||
| Biden is up nine in Arizona with 73% reporting. | ||
| However, Pennsylvania is plus five Trump. | ||
| Michigan is plus 12 Trump with 30% reporting. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But these might not count the urban centers, so we don't know yet. | ||
| And Wisconsin is plus four. | ||
| Minnesota is Biden plus 26 so far. | ||
| So everyone's like, you know, I was like, man, I don't know the Iron Range mayors, you know, they endorse Trump. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| That's true, yeah. | ||
| But it is only 32% reporting, so who knows. | ||
| Arizona's starting to look like it's gonna go Democrat. | ||
| But we got Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia, according to the New York Times. | ||
| Florida's Trump. | ||
| New York Times says 94% reporting, Trump's up three. | ||
| North Carolina, Trump's .6 up, with a 95% chance of winning. | ||
| And in Georgia, Trump is up 13. | ||
| But they're only saying an 83% chance to win, because only 52% are reporting. | ||
| And then, oh, I think we gotta refresh this, actually. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| That's a gigantic move for Trump in Florida. | ||
| Okay, so it's huge. | ||
| Nevada's polls are not closed yet. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So whose polls are closing next? | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't really know. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| We're just gonna keep staring at the New York Times because for some reason it's the one we choose over all the other networks, I guess. | ||
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