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Timcast IRL - Trump Airlifted To The Hospital As COVID Symptoms Worsen, DontWalkRun Joins
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tim pool
last night Donald Trump announced that he had tested positive for COVID-19 as
did the first lady Melania Melania Trump and And now we're getting breaking news that while his symptoms aren't severe, so they say, out of an abundance of caution, Donald Trump is being airlifted to Walter Reed on Marine One.
He was seen leaving the White House giving a thumbs up.
So, so far, everything seems good.
And it's just crazy timing with everything that's going on.
And now conspiracy theories are popping up.
You've got high-profile leftists arguing that Donald Trump is faking his sickness so he could change the news cycle, and it's just absolutely ridiculous.
But apparently Donald Trump is being given an experimental treatment.
It's still in clinical trials, we'll see.
But there's been an ongoing conspiracy among the left that Trump is going to announce he's been cured after a few days because he took hydroxychloroquine.
This has shifted the news cycle.
I mean, one thing's true.
The news cycle has been shifted off of the Proud Boys and the debates completely.
I saw this really funny tweet from a journalist where she was like, on the 18th, Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.
On the 25th, Trump nominated Amy Coney Barrett.
And now, several days later, Donald Trump is diagnosed with COVID.
The news cycle is a bullet train.
It's breaking the sound barrier.
That's how insane this is.
Does anyone even remember that we have a Supreme Court vacancy?
Probably not.
One of the conspiracies is that we're now going to be entering COVID Watch for Donald Trump, as the tickers are on the news saying, like, Day 7, Donald Trump COVID Watch.
But in all seriousness, hopefully he's gonna be fine.
We're gonna have a... I guess we're not having a normal election no matter what happens, so that's 2020.
But anyway, welcome to the Tim Cast IRL Podcast.
We are hanging out with, of course, Ian Crossland.
Hey!
Ian's hanging out.
And Shark Patch Lids, of course, is doing the production.
And today as our guest is Andrew from Don't Walk Run.
@dontwalkrun
What's up, everybody?
Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure.
How do I describe who you are?
I'm the Senior Political Analyst.
I'm the top Senior Political Analyst on YouTube.
Let's just say that.
tim pool
Pull your... Make sure you get near the mic.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, sorry.
Jeepers.
I'm the Senior Political Analyst at my production company, Don't Walk Run.
tim pool
Are there more than one person?
@dontwalkrun
No, just me.
tim pool
Oh, okay. Well, congratulations on your title.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'd have gone for something a bit more verbose and grandiose.
@dontwalkrun
I'm a very humble man.
tim pool
Maybe like Supreme Chancellor, you know what I mean?
Supreme...
Yeah.
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Palpatine.
tim pool
Just call yourself.
That's my title.
@dontwalkrun
I also have somebody that helps me out occasionally.
Her name is Poofy.
Thank you, Poofy.
Just wanted to say hello.
Everybody knows Poofy.
She's kind of like my script doctor occasionally.
But yeah, I'm pretty much by myself.
tim pool
And you do political videos.
Yes, I do.
@dontwalkrun
Political commentary.
Some stuff about the pink tax.
How it's not real.
Things like that.
tim pool
There you go.
Well, we're gonna start with just, I mean, we're just gonna talk about what's going on, because this is a crazy story.
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We do the show Monday through Friday live.
And we gotta talk about this breaking news, man.
So here's the story.
From the Daily Mail, Trump gives thumbs up as he walks to Marine One to be medevaced to Walter Reed for COVID treatment.
President releases video reassuring Americans he is doing well as son Eric asks, pray for my dad and White House says he is staying in charge.
We got some bullet points.
They say he gave a thumbs up.
He's expected to remain in the remain in the hospital for a few days where the White House says he will continue working.
As he traveled, a video was posted to the president's Twitter account in which he thanked
the American people for their support. And then I think it was Jim Acosta who tweeted a picture
saying he won't stop and talk to the press. It's like- Shocking.
Yeah, is that his priority right now? But sure, sure.
Thanks for letting us know.
The White House confirmed he had not handed over power to Vice President Pence.
Trump's son Eric called him a true warrior. As he asked for prayers for his recovery on Twitter,
Trump and Melania announced they tested positive in the early hours of Friday morning
and were self-isolating in the White House.
The First Lady on Friday tweeted that she had mild symptoms but was feeling good.
Ivanka, Barron, and Jared Kushner have all tested negative, as has Vice President Mike Pence.
Joe Biden has, uh, they go on to say he's 77, I guess, but it doesn't matter.
He's tested negative.
So, almost immediately, we're getting crazy speculation.
You know, the first thing I thought when I heard, it's like, whoa, they're airlifting Trump.
I'm imagining like Trump, like collapsing and like the white house.
And then like, but he walks out and he gives a thumbs up.
Like it's no big deal.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
He wasn't out brought out on a stretcher.
tim pool
Yeah.
So naturally you like, it's, it's really funny, you know, the circumstances isn't funny, but what's funny is the reaction.
How, because Trump isn't collapsing, you know, and, and, and gasping for air, it must be a conspiracy.
Trump's not really sick.
He's just trying to steal back the news cycle.
@dontwalkrun
Well, you know, they talk about how devastating COVID is, but, you know, or the mainstream media will have you think, oh, like they have the death count on CNN.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
@dontwalkrun
You know, but it's not a death sentence, you know.
I think that Trump's gonna probably come out of this okay.
What do you think?
tim pool
Does it just end up with, like, a week goes by, Trump's fine?
Or... I mean, it's 2020, man, come on.
We're talking apocalyptic-level fiction and sci-fi kinda...
@dontwalkrun
Well, didn't you say an experimental treatment?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So Trump received Regeneron's experimental antibody drug for his coronavirus symptoms.
The experimental treatment is still in clinical trials.
So...
lydia smith
I feel better than ever.
tim pool
Listen, I feel better than ever.
What if he comes out and he looks like he's 50?
Whoa.
@dontwalkrun
De-ages.
Stem cells.
tim pool
He's super ripped.
He'll definitely win.
And he's standing there and his muscles rip his shirt.
He's like, I feel better than ever.
Listen, I feel better than ever.
Everyone agrees.
Like super Hulk Trump.
@dontwalkrun
That'd be an instant vote from me.
lydia smith
Yeah, that'd be so cool.
@dontwalkrun
That'd be awesome.
ian crossland
So he's basically hijacking the news cycle, whether he intends to or not, right?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, the, yeah.
ian crossland
You think the way he came out on top, came out ahead, he was like, we're coming out ahead on this one.
So he, like, posted it on Twitter immediately when they found out, was like, we're gonna milk this.
tim pool
I don't think there's any conspiracy or anything like that, man.
I think a ton of people got COVID, right?
So was it Mike Lee, I think, right?
Yeah, he tested positive.
And Ronna McDaniel.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
And there's a video of Mike Lee like hugging everybody at this like Amy Coney Barrett nomination thing.
So, you know, it's really funny.
There's a tweet and I can't remember who tweeted.
They were like, why is it that so many Republicans are getting COVID and so many
high profile Democrats aren't?
And it's like, well, you know, Republicans, a lot of them aren't wearing masks.
lydia smith
Ralph Northern got it.
tim pool
Yeah.
No, I've got it.
@dontwalkrun
But I thought he was a Republican because he was wearing the KKK thing, right?
lydia smith
Oh, that's right.
@dontwalkrun
Isn't he a Republican?
Yeah, I don't know.
unidentified
Oh, wait.
tim pool
What do we do?
Which one is the racist one again?
Which party is it?
unidentified
I love it.
@dontwalkrun
It's like, there's a picture of me.
I'm not sure which one I was.
I can't remember whether I was wearing, you know, makeup on my face or just like a hood.
unidentified
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Couldn't tell ya.
Couldn't tell ya.
lydia smith
Pick one.
They're both great.
tim pool
All right, I absolutely have to read a super chat right here in this segment because it's hilarious.
So Mark says, Hey Tim, imagine if Trump has the cure in his antibodies.
The cure would have Trump's DNA in the vaccination.
And what is it?
And people will freak out then.
Well, actually, think about this.
I think you mentioned something about South Park.
Imagine if Trump gets this and then they're like, he has mild symptoms and then like by tomorrow he's totally fine.
And they're like, this is strange.
He's completely cured.
So they do a blood test and find that Trump, his blood has the specific antibody that they need for the cure.
And then they go to all the leftists and they're like, we have to inject you with this vaccine with Trump's DNA.
unidentified
We're literally going to put Trump in your veins now.
tim pool
I don't think anything like that will really happen.
@dontwalkrun
There's so many people that wouldn't take it.
I wouldn't take it.
tim pool
I'd rather die.
ian crossland
I have nothing to do with him.
@dontwalkrun
It doesn't sound that far-fetched.
It's 2020, man.
Bring it on.
What if the opposite happened?
Well, what if it was with Biden?
What if Biden contracted the virus and it was in his DNA?
Would you take the Biden vaccine?
Why not?
tim pool
Look, I think if the companies do testing and the vaccine comes out, I'm not worried that a bunch of people are going to turn into zombies or drop dead or become Biden or something.
@dontwalkrun
I always think about I Am Legend, where they're like, we have this cure for cancer.
Everybody takes it.
It's fine.
No problem.
And then suddenly, you know, there's like, the last person on earth is Will Smith.
tim pool
Yeah, but the movie ruined the actual story.
Like, the actual story was that once everyone was a vampire, was like a zombie mutant, whatever, he was the legendary monster who lurked while they slept, killing them.
Get it?
@dontwalkrun
Sure, okay.
tim pool
The movie didn't do that.
The movie totally missed the concept.
@dontwalkrun
I see.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
So I've actually referenced, you know, I've referenced I Am Legend in the context of, like, social justice and, you know, identitarianism on the left.
Like, there will come a point where, when the entire country has adopted this ideology, you are the fringe zealot weirdo with crazy ideas.
And that's kind of like the same idea, you know?
Like, everyone becomes a zombie because they take the Biden vaccine.
I'm kidding, it's not gonna happen.
ian crossland
But there's something about rushing out a medicine that a horde of people would take without proper clinical trials.
You're supposed to be in clinical trials for years.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's why I think it's like, I'll wait a little bit.
You know, I'm not going to, you know, if, if they announced a vaccine, I'm not going to run out the door full speed, throw my coat and like go 90 miles an hour.
I'm going to be like, yeah.
@dontwalkrun
I mean, well, first of all, you can anyway, um, because they're going to give it to frontline workers and stuff like that.
You know, let them, you know, let them see what happens.
You know, let them see.
ian crossland
Are you interested in the vaccine?
@dontwalkrun
Pass.
No, I don't know.
I look at it this way.
I don't think I necessarily have a problem with... There's so many people, there's so many companies that are working on the same thing.
So if they all kind of come to the same conclusion, Maybe?
You know?
tim pool
I just don't think that there's, you know, maybe there's going to be malpractice.
Maybe there will be mistakes.
Maybe, like you said, the clinical trial is supposed to take a long time.
And Trump's got what is it, Operation Warp Speed, I think it's called?
Yeah.
So, uh, I don't know if I want to take a vaccine that's been, like, mass produced and pumped out by a major pharmaceutical in only a few months, you know?
@dontwalkrun
Are we supposed to wait until, like, COVID-23 hits, and then we... Is that why it's called 19?
tim pool
Why is it called 19?
Because, uh, it was... 2019?
@dontwalkrun
Because it came from 2019, yeah.
tim pool
Is that it?
So then, COVID-23, we'll have four years, and then we're on COVID-24.
@dontwalkrun
We're gonna have the yearly COVID.
ian crossland
You guys are naming them like hurricanes.
@dontwalkrun
Well, actually, we'll probably only have a COVID, like, every, like, once every four years.
Probably, you know, but only when a Republican's in the White House.
tim pool
Yeah.
Every time a Republican gets elected, it's like, Oh, COVID's back!
Lock the economy down.
ian crossland
Do you guys think it has something to do with global warming?
I'm going to go there because like, if they say that like bacteria and stuff can lie dormant under the glaciers and as they recede, that it releases new... I heard about that.
@dontwalkrun
That's where the COVID came from.
ian crossland
I wonder if that has something to do with it.
tim pool
They're going to make a movie like this.
Cause you know how they did like the Comey, what is it?
The Comey report or something?
@dontwalkrun
Oh, the Comey something.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you seen it?
@dontwalkrun
No.
tim pool
I thought the trailer was, was a parody.
I thought it was like going to be like, you know, funny or die or like the onion.
@dontwalkrun
Right.
tim pool
It was really bad.
But anyway, they're going to like, they're going to make a movie out of this and they're going to, they're going to, they're going to have, you know, Trump and it's going to be like Alec Baldwin, just really horrible impression.
@dontwalkrun
Oh God.
tim pool
And it's gonna be, like, some climate change researchers, and they're gonna watch, like, the Larson B. Ice Shelf break, and it's gonna be, um, what's that guy's name?
His bro- Dennis Quaid.
That's his name, right?
He was in the movie The Day After Tomorrow?
Was that him?
@dontwalkrun
Randy Quaid.
tim pool
Randy?
ian crossland
No, Randy- I think those guys are brothers, though.
@dontwalkrun
Randy's the one- Oh, I'm sorry, I'm- Yeah, Randy's the crazy one, who's got the crazy beard, who's like- I was thinking Independence Day, that's my thought.
ian crossland
That was Randy Quaid.
tim pool
Yeah, that was Randy.
The actor tomorrow was Dennis Quaid.
So they're going to have him like the shelf breaks, but instead of him being like, oh
no, it's going to disrupt the current, a green fog is going to come out and he's going to
go ahhhhhh.
And then it's going to show him at the council being like the coronavirus escaped the ice.
I mean, I'm being silly, but actually Ian brings up a good point because they've been
talking about like viruses and bacteria that are trapped in ice that when it melts, they
get released.
I mean if it brings about maybe like a zombie apocalypse at this point I'm just it's the waiting I can't stand you know just get it done.
ian crossland
Weinstein, Brett Weinstein was saying that it was like an ancient virus.
COVID was?
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
I don't know enough about it.
@dontwalkrun
I don't believe that, but I don't have any other evidence to the contrary.
tim pool
But I don't have the wherewithal to defend myself.
There's a funny meme going around.
You know that picture of Trump eating the taco bowl?
It's of him, but it's a soup with a bat in it.
@dontwalkrun
Please tell me he made it.
tim pool
I have to know.
@dontwalkrun
Please tell me somebody on his staff like just made it up or maybe like, uh, uh, a Duncombe, maybe.
tim pool
No, I don't know.
Somebody, somebody made the meme and they're shanging it around.
ian crossland
What I need to know is where did COVID come from?
Did it get released?
Was it in a lab?
Was it a bat virus?
I just, 2020, just tell me.
tim pool
Well, first, first, first of all, we don't know.
And that's one of the biggest issues when people make assertions like, it did this, it did that.
The general thinking is that it emerged from baths, and then because of the unsanitary conditions of the wet markets in China, you end up with it spreading around and then going crazy.
And that's really easy to believe, man.
I don't understand why people, like, can't believe that.
I know Tucker Carlson had that woman on.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
So, for those of you that are listening, a woman who worked at, I believe, Hong Kong University, or a university in Hong Kong, saying that it was manufactured and released on purpose.
And I'm kind of like, First, it's one person who didn't work in any of these labs in China saying this.
unidentified
And I feel like there's certain people- She says she has evidence.
tim pool
She released a paper on it explaining it.
And so I can respect that for sure.
I'm not a scientist.
I'm not going to refute it.
I'm just saying it's really easy to believe that the horrifying human rights abuses and unsanitary conditions of China and their pollution problems, I'm sure they got all kinds of crazy diseases, man.
Like you'll go there and you'll walk out with like 17 new plagues or something.
And I'm not trying to be mean, I'm saying, like, those wet markets are really dirty.
ian crossland
Yeah, they don't really exist in the United States, do they?
tim pool
Not in the same way, but if you go to, like, Chinatown, you've seen this, right?
When you're in New York and they have all, like, the fish and the rabbits and stuff that's, like, sitting in front of the shops.
@dontwalkrun
Uh, fish, yeah.
I don't think I've ever seen rabbits.
tim pool
They hang from the windows.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
tim pool
You've never seen the rabbits?
@dontwalkrun
I don't think so.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure.
Maybe it's ducks.
Maybe I'm thinking ducks.
@dontwalkrun
Ducks, definitely.
tim pool
Okay, yeah.
Ducks, ducks, ducks.
I'm pretty sure I've seen, like, maybe I haven't seen rabbits.
Maybe I dreamt that.
It's not real.
ian crossland
Ooh.
tim pool
I don't know.
But it's not the same thing.
@dontwalkrun
Maybe in The Walking Dead.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But when you go to... I wouldn't call it a wet market.
They have like a display of all the fish, and it kind of smells, you know?
@dontwalkrun
But that's anywhere.
That's at any seafood market in the city, you know?
Yeah, and I think it's probably regulated a little bit more.
It's probably a lot more sanitary than in China, I would think.
I'm guessing.
I've never been to China.
ian crossland
Are you guys familiar with putrescine and cadaverine?
No, what is that?
They're two chemicals that basically digest meat and they break it down and they make the putrid, cadaverous smell.
tim pool
Putrescine?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Is that what it's called?
ian crossland
Isn't this crazy that that stuff's real?
No way.
It's not like mainstream known to people.
Yeah, it grows on meat.
I don't believe you.
Check it out.
Putrescine and cadaverine.
tim pool
No way.
unidentified
Totally.
@dontwalkrun
Is that real?
lydia smith
I will look it up.
It does sound right though.
tim pool
Really?
@dontwalkrun
Cadaverine.
ian crossland
That's what makes, that's that black rock.
@dontwalkrun
Click on the draw.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Where are we going with this?
@dontwalkrun
We were talking about the wet markets and then we talked about Chinatown.
But here's a thing that Joe Biden mentions all the time.
He's like, why didn't we Have people on the ground in China when, you know, like why didn't, why didn't we send people there?
It's like, do you think they would have showed us?
tim pool
Really?
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
What would we have found?
I don't think we would have found anything.
tim pool
They'd bring us to their Potemkin wet markets where everyone's wearing like a chef suit and they're like doing song and dance and like all everything's in a refrigerator.
@dontwalkrun
Do you think they would have taken us to like, if we would have said, okay, Wet market?
unidentified
Maybe.
@dontwalkrun
Maybe it happened here.
But you got that lab down the street too.
Can we check that out?
Do you think they would have said...
Uh, right this way, sir!
unidentified
Yes.
@dontwalkrun
You know, like, I don't think so.
I do.
tim pool
No, I do.
I do.
But, they'd be like, right this way, and then they would, like, walk people, and then they would come to this, like, hole.
It would look like a door.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then when they walk through it, two guys are holding up a painting.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
And then they run away, and it's actually a pub.
You know, so they tricked the people into thinking they're walking into the lab, and then, like, inside, it's a bunch of actors.
I'm half-kidding, but I think they would've been like, oh yes, we'll show you the lab, and it's already been purged of everything.
@dontwalkrun
Just like right yeah, they would trash every time yeah exactly didn't they just supposedly destroy evidence in
Anyway, didn't they destroy papers?
tim pool
I don't know for sure, but I know there was like major flooding
Sweeping the area and people were worried. It was gonna. It was like I think the flooding was hitting Wuhan was it or
unidentified
yeah?
lydia smith
So the other thing interesting that's been happening is that they've had a lot of explosions there in Wuhan
unidentified
What?
lydia smith
Yeah, they have.
I've read multiple instances of gigantic explosions in Wuhan and I haven't pulled up for anything, but yeah, that was really interesting to me.
@dontwalkrun
What's going on over there?
Wow.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Weird, right?
Coincidental.
@dontwalkrun
I know you're shocked.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's shocking.
It's crazy.
Weird stuff happens in China.
tim pool
Who were we talking to?
Was it Jack Murphy?
He said, we're at war with China.
It's just fourth-generational warfare.
So one of the problems a lot of people have is a normalcy bias and an optimism bias.
And so they'll assume... I guess this is another kind of bias for it, I don't know which one it would be, like a history bias?
If it doesn't happen this way, it's not really happening, you know what I mean?
Like, they assume war means, like, you know, fighter jets shooting each other in the sky and blowing up.
And then, like, we land a bunch of U-boats on the shores of China and, like, ahh, and storm in.
But that's not what warfare is today.
Today, it's manipulation.
It's media strategy.
It's disruption.
It's demoralization.
And so I wonder if some of the things that are happening in the U.S.
and China—and I'm not saying that there's a grand conspiracy or anything.
I'm saying there could be warfare going on we don't know about.
So it's actually—there's something called industrial control systems.
They're, you know, digital technology that can control power plants and refineries.
These things are easily hacked.
And easily disrupted.
I went and saw tons of displays.
I was at Defcon and Black Hat, those hacker conventions, years ago.
And they had a whole section on ICS hacking.
Industrial Control Systems.
And they were like, here's how you can blow up a power plant.
And they actually did a demonstration where they made a pipe burst.
They put a valve on it, though, so that when it bursts, it pressurizes the valve.
But there was, like, one thing where they said, like, this system that we're manipulating is what nuclear power plants use, it's what refineries use, and we can actually hack this system very easily with only a few lines of code to send the fluid, whichever it is, in the same direction into the same pipe until it explodes.
And the pressure, boom, will spray fuel and probably spark a fire, and then, uh, and go up.
And so I think about stuff like that, and I don't know to what extent we've shorn up our cyber security defenses, but I don't think, I don't know that even if we did, it would make a difference.
Alright, so I bring this up because then you hear all these stories about like, you know, this oil refinery blew up for an unknown, it was an accident, it must have been an accident.
Then you hear about these explosions happening in Wuhan.
You hear about all these things, and I wonder how much of this may actually be hot war, like legit full-on efforts by both countries to hurt each other.
Meanwhile, the public just thinks everything's okay.
@dontwalkrun
Or maybe it was the Chinese trying to cover up things and, oh my God, this explosion just happened for no reason.
tim pool
Heavens!
@dontwalkrun
So, I mean, it's possible.
As far as infiltrating these systems, Do you think that all countries have the potential of doing it to all other countries?
tim pool
Dude, the scary thing about cyber war is that some 19-year-old kid who's bored in his bedroom from anywhere could be like, I would like to do these things.
lydia smith
Like Twitter?
tim pool
Yeah, so when Twitter got hacked, the Associated Press got hacked and they tweeted that... They were hacked, right.
lydia smith
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, no, from the kid.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
@dontwalkrun
But this was kind of an inside job, right?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
@dontwalkrun
Isn't this the last one?
tim pool
No, I'm talking about a different scenario.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, okay.
tim pool
So this was years ago.
This kid in Russia, he was Syrian, hacked Twitter.
And we believe this is the guy, at least the last time I had anything to do with reporting on the story.
He was just some college kid, and I believe he was in Moscow, and he tweeted that Obama had been injured in an attack on the White House, and it caused a stock drop off of like four point something billion dollars.
And then within five minutes, once it was realized it was fake, it rebounded.
What people don't realize is that was a dramatic and massive transfer of wealth in only a few minutes.
When the stock got sold off because of the cyber attack, that was person A selling and losing the asset.
And then when it rebounded and went right back up, that was person B. Get it?
Different people were getting rid of... I couldn't imagine being that person who was sitting on, you know, your stock.
Then there's this fake tweet, the computer automatically sells off your assets, and then someone else automatically bought them right back up, and then you realize it was all fake?
@dontwalkrun
Okay, because, uh, the...
They had a, they said, you know, they had like a sell limit.
You know, like if it drops below this, then automatically sell it off.
Is that what you're saying?
tim pool
So what happened was when a few people heard this and sold, then they hit their, I forgot what it's called.
I'm not a stock person.
@dontwalkrun
Me neither.
tim pool
They hit that number where it's like, if it drops this low sell, which triggered a cascade.
And then once people realized it was fake, people started buying again, which triggered the other cascade in the other direction.
So we saw billions of dollars exchange hands at that point.
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So that's the scary kind of stuff, you know, we could see.
So I think maybe it's all speculative for sure.
But yeah, it could be them trying to cover things up.
And I think the craziest thing about it is sort of the... Complacency?
Is that the right word?
You know, like the collusion, in a sense, from media companies and from social media.
So, for example, what I mean is, when Tucker Carlson has a woman on who says, I've written a paper and I have evidence that this was made in a lab, I say, prove it.
I don't care.
I get it.
You're a professor.
Prove it.
Instagram blocked it saying it was fake news.
Why?
And the links... So when Facebook or Instagram says it's fake news, you can click it and it says, CY.
The stories had nothing to do with Tucker Carlson or his whistleblower.
@dontwalkrun
Right, it had... If I remember correctly, Tucker said that some of the examples were written well before the paper was published.
So that's... I know... Yeah, it's...
tim pool
I noticed something really interesting.
@dontwalkrun
It's scary how they can control these things.
tim pool
But why is it that way?
Because I don't think there's a grand, you know, architect controlling the machine.
But when Tucker Carlson has an expert with credentials, PhD from a university in Hong Kong who says they have proof and published a paper on it, how is that fake news?
It's an expert opinion.
@dontwalkrun
But somebody did come out.
Somebody did.
They saw that tweet and said, like, they hit a button.
tim pool
Exactly.
@dontwalkrun
To market it.
That was not an automatic thing.
Exactly.
tim pool
Because an algorithm can't tell what the context of a discussion with Tucker Carlson is.
@dontwalkrun
Exactly.
tim pool
I noticed something when I was looking at some of these fact-checking organizations.
I saw a website, and I forgot what the name of it was, and they were saying some outlandish claim, and I went there and I was reading about it, and I was like, this story seems nuts.
So I pulled up these fact-checking sites.
You got, like, Check Your Fact and, like, you know, Know Your Fact or whatever and lead stories.
And I started reading about one of these sites and it said, you know, these stories are fake news.
This is a conspiracy theory website.
But one of the stories quoted, like, a former CIA official.
And so I said, how is that fake news?
It's a guy asking a CIA official, what do you think about this thing?
And they said, yeah, but the CIA official said crazy stuff.
And I'm like, I don't know.
Define crazy, you know what I mean?
So basically what happens is, you can get former intelligence individuals to go on record and say something, but if it goes against orthodoxy, then the media machine is like, that must be fake news, therefore it is.
For example, I'll give you another really good example.
Uh, Joe Biden.
Was he wearing a wire?
Did you see this?
@dontwalkrun
Yes.
tim pool
Okay, they said, fake news!
It was a crease in his shirt.
And I said, you saying it was a crease is as speculative as them saying it was a wire.
How do you know it was a crease in his shirt?
Did you inspect his lapel?
No.
They just literally said, oh, these people are crazy.
I think it was a crease.
Therefore, you're all fake news.
So you have two people arguing and speculating with each other on the internet, yet one of them is granted power to actually inhibit the spread of certain information.
That's the current state of things.
@dontwalkrun
Well, that one was weird.
That whole Joe Biden thing.
I thought that if, whether that was a crease or a wire, I thought that that wire was like a lav mic.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was a microphone.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, that's what I thought.
ian crossland
In his left sleeve, it looked like there was a little microphone.
@dontwalkrun
No, that was a pen.
ian crossland
I think it was photoshopped.
@dontwalkrun
No, apparently that was a rosary bead.
Oh, really?
He was wearing a rosary for Beau.
tim pool
Well, I did see the full image, but I thought in the image with the rosary, he just put the pen in his sleeve when he was not holding it.
@dontwalkrun
I mean, which he could have, but apparently it was a rosary.
But either way, whether it was a pen or a mic, Or anything, or even if there was a wire here, like, what would be the significance?
Yeah, I know, I don't care.
If he didn't have anything in his ear anyway, which, you know, IFBs, they go behind you and in the ear.
unidentified
You know what they're saying?
tim pool
They're saying that he had implantable bone conduction.
I'm like, just, you know what?
@dontwalkrun
Oh, that I believe.
tim pool
No, just get out of here!
He's got Neuralink.
He's being remote controlled by Elon Musk.
ian crossland
That's gonna happen.
tim pool
Could you imagine there's like Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton's in the back room with a remote control and a microphone and she's like controlling him.
ian crossland
Don't respond.
tim pool
But no, but Elon Musk is like, you have to you have to press this button here.
If you want him to move his left hand up.
Yeah, do it like you're doing it wrong.
I'm trying to explain to you.
And then she's like, Oh, like this.
And then Joe.
And that's why Joe stutters and stammers.
ian crossland
Look at the camera now.
Turn this knob to make him look at the camera.
tim pool
Elon Musk and Norlink?
@dontwalkrun
I don't usually fall for those conspiracy theories.
Like when they say that Joe Biden is reading from a teleprompter when he's answering questions from reporters.
Or the one where he was on James Corden and he's holding up pictures and you're like, See in reflection in the picture, there's a teleprompter.
It's like, well, but he's just talking about his kids.
Like who cares?
Like even if he was like in that, in that moment, I don't care if he's reading from a teleprompter and he didn't sound like he was reading from a teleprompter and he wasn't talking about policy.
tim pool
But I don't understand the teleprompter thing anyway.
@dontwalkrun
Well, because he has a, he has a broadcast camera set up in his, in his home.
tim pool
No, I just mean like, who cares?
@dontwalkrun
Well, well, but see, the thing is, there's been other, uh, there's, there's been other times where he's been speaking with like a governor or something and it's supposed to be a conversation.
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
And, and like an off the cuff conversation.
And then suddenly.
He uses a prompter.
He'll go and use a prompter.
And it's like, well, that's deceptive because it literally says in the title, a conversation with governor so-and-so.
tim pool
Do you remember the thing where he pulls his hand to the side and starts fanning upwards?
Yeah.
That's a prompter.
He's saying, speed up.
I've used prompters before too.
@dontwalkrun
And that's because he was reading from something anyway.
Right, of course.
But the fact that he uses it as a crutch for everything.
He just can't have a conversation.
I'm reading from a teleprompter now.
You wouldn't know this.
tim pool
No, okay.
Everything he's saying is pre-programmed.
@dontwalkrun
This is all scripted, man.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
People don't realize we rehearsed for hours to get this right.
ian crossland
Tim takes time off.
@dontwalkrun
She's in the Google doc right now, like telling me what to say.
tim pool
She's just real time doing the prompter.
ian crossland
I always got annoyed when, when, um, Trump would go on prompt cause he speaks off, off prompt and he's real natural.
He's loud.
He's, and then he goes like this and he starts talking like this and it's like, oh, he's boring Trump again.
Cause he's on the prompt.
@dontwalkrun
There's, there's definitely teleprompter Trump and there's off the cuff, like fun Trump.
Everybody loves fun, Trump, and I love when he goes off.
tim pool
Everybody, huh?
@dontwalkrun
Well, yeah.
Come on, come on.
All right, well, everybody who's not completely triggered by Trump.
tim pool
Everyone who's normal.
@dontwalkrun
Everybody's normal.
Because Trump is funny.
tim pool
He's a funny guy.
@dontwalkrun
He's hilarious.
ian crossland
Like, back in the day, with the presidents, they just didn't have a prompter before elec- well, not before elections, but before TV, before radio and stuff.
tim pool
Cue cards, maybe?
ian crossland
Maybe they had cue cards?
Maybe they had, like, a speech in front of them?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
They'd write down their speech.
ian crossland
Did they also just talk to people a lot more frequently?
tim pool
Yeah, I'd imagine.
ian crossland
We need that again.
tim pool
But Trump's doing that.
ian crossland
Yeah, he kind of is.
tim pool
Go to a Trump rally, man, because I've been to so many in the past cycle.
It's like going and watching stand-up.
I'm not even exaggerating.
No, he's a comedian.
@dontwalkrun
He's self-aware.
tim pool
He's an entertainer.
He's self-aware, and he is even self-deprecating.
There was the one point where he was like, these lights are making me orange!
lydia smith
Yes, I love that.
tim pool
Everybody laughed.
It's like, we get it, dude.
You're orange.
He's self-aware.
He knows.
Yeah man, it's like, he's a funny guy.
@dontwalkrun
You saw, he's definitely self-deprecating.
Like for example, remember that...
I can't remember what the phrases were, but there was an audio file that sounded like
one word to some people and another word to others.
lydia smith
Laurel and Yanny.
@dontwalkrun
Laurel and Yanny.
Yeah.
And so the White House made a video.
Oh, I remember this.
They made a video of, it was like Kellyanne Conway and I think Mike Pence and like a whole
bunch of the cabinet.
And they were listening and they were saying, it sounds like this.
It sounds like this.
I go, no, it's definitely Ani, but, but it could be Laurel.
Like, you know, if you persuade me and at the very end it had Trump sitting at his, the resolute desk and he's like, you guys.
I hear Covfefe.
Which is hilarious.
He's not like, I never said Covfefe.
I never said it.
I never typed it.
tim pool
Well, he does sometimes lie about weird things.
Like, I never called John McCain a loser.
unidentified
It's like, you tweeted you called him a loser.
@dontwalkrun
Well, you know, maybe he was.
I don't know.
Look, I have problems.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
I want to clarify that.
@dontwalkrun
Sorry.
tim pool
Trump called McCain a loser and referenced him losing in 2008.
So I think he wasn't saying like, what a loser as a derogatory.
He wasn't kind of being like, well, he was a loser because he lost, which is an insult.
But either way, like he said those words, you know, but he does kind of just sometimes you're like, bro, we know you said it, you know what I mean?
What are you doing?
Just roll with it.
But you know what the funny thing about that Laurel Yanny thing is?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
tim pool
And also, there's the black and blue or golden white dress.
@dontwalkrun
Sure, yeah.
tim pool
You know what the funniest thing about the whole thing is?
There's nothing spectacular about that thing in any way.
There is no psychological phenomenon.
You know why that was happening?
People have different phones.
So when you listen to the word Laurel with a phone with no subwoofer, with just a really high-pitched microphone like on a crappy phone, you hear, Yanny.
But if you had a good phone, it was expensive, you had Laurel.
The same thing was true with the black and gold dress, and, I'm sorry, the black and blue and the white and gold dress.
Depending on if you had the filters on your phone, like a blue filter or whatever, you would see a shadowed white and gold, and if you're looking on a computer, you'd see something slightly different.
And so all of these people are viewing the same thing through different lenses and different devices, and then being like, you're wrong, I know for a fact it's this!
How interesting.
But think about that.
And then think about, do you remember when Jim Acosta brutally just like beat that woman in front of everyone?
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Do you remember when Jim Acosta was, he grabbed, he like yanked the microphone from her?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And all of a sudden there was a Laurel Yanny phenomenon where I actually had, I had this like high profile journalist hit me up because I tweeted, Jim Acosta clearly, like, I can't remember exactly what happened, it's been a long time.
But what I think happened was, she grabbed the mic, and he was pushing her hand away at the same time, so it pulled her forward a little bit.
And then I had someone message me like, are you seriously, like, believing that's what happened?
Can't you watch the video?
She yanked it from him.
And I'm like, first of all, even if she did, so what?
It's the White House's microphone.
And Jim Acosta shouldn't be death-gripping a microphone and refusing to back down.
But you can actually see, what it looks like happened is, he's holding it, And then when she goes to grab it, he pushes her arm, or like, he tries to put it away, push it away, which pushes her arm and then makes her body move forward, something like that, or his body, I guess, I can't remember exactly what happened.
But I was like, it could be very simple, in that everybody has a different device, with different resolutions, with different frame rates, and different people were literally seeing different video displays.
ian crossland
Well, one thing, the Nick Sandman thing was like, if you knew he was just smiling because he was nervous, it looked different than if you thought he was getting in the dude's face.
tim pool
That's another really good example.
People's biases altered their perception of what was even going on.
ian crossland
Dude, all the time.
tim pool
Yep.
So Donald, like Donald Trump, you actually, a really good example is there's this famous comic where it's a camera.
There's like a camera guy filming.
And then in the lens of the camera, you see someone shocked, like screaming.
And there's like someone holding a knife.
But then the bigger picture is someone running away and the other person's holding the knife.
So it's like the image was distorted by how they framed it.
So it's a reference to framing in media.
So when you have Nick Sandman, All the people who hate Trump immediately were like, we know exactly what that is.
And they didn't stop to think.
And so that came out in the news.
Oh, they have to pay out settlements because of it.
But I think... Womp womp.
Yeah, they should pay more.
@dontwalkrun
I'm so sorry, CNN.
Oh, you poor people.
My goodness.
tim pool
Did you see this?
My favorite thing is, Jim Acosta tweeted the other day, Donald Trump finally condemns white supremacy.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, I know where you're going with this.
tim pool
But then in 2017, the tweet from Acosta where he's like, Donald Trump denounces white supremacy and the KKK.
@dontwalkrun
I actually marked that down.
tim pool
Racism is evil.
Congratulations.
It's like, I have to wonder if these journalists have the memory of a goldfish or if it's on purpose.
@dontwalkrun
Well, it's this whole thing with John Roberts the other day when John Roberts is like, look, Um, can you say now, now he's talking, he's talking to the press secretary and the press secretary is basically she, she does not, she's not, she can't make a decision for Trump.
tim pool
She doesn't dictate for the president.
@dontwalkrun
She can't say like, it's like, does, does Trump, uh, does he condemn it?
And then she like, she goes, yes, he definitively does.
Instead, what she said was here's.
Multiple examples of the president condemning the people you want to condemn.
And she's like, oh, back in this date, back in this date, he said this, he said this.
And then he goes, but can you say right now that he condemns it?
It's like, well, I just read you.
How many times?
You could have him condemn it every hour on the hour and it would never be good enough for these people.
lydia smith
I know, right?
tim pool
So what people need to understand about Kayleigh McEnany, she doesn't speak for Trump.
So when a journalist says, does Donald Trump right now condemn it?
@dontwalkrun
Exactly.
tim pool
She goes, let me read you a quote from the president.
No, I want you to, I want to know now.
She can't be like, yes, I hereby on behalf of the president announce a quote for him from my mouth.
@dontwalkrun
And instead she's, she's saying, this is when he said these things.
These are the dates.
Multiple times.
tim pool
Ugh, I'm so sick of this.
@dontwalkrun
How many more times does he need to say it?
lydia smith
Every hour.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, does he need to do a video?
Look, this is going to help him.
tim pool
I think this absolutely is going to help him win.
You know why?
@dontwalkrun
But people still believe it.
tim pool
Yes, yes.
@dontwalkrun
People now think that he's still a racist.
The Proud Boys are not white supremacists.
tim pool
I know!
@dontwalkrun
They're not white supremacists.
So it's like, fine, you want to condemn them, whatever.
tim pool
There are a lot of things, a lot of things to be criticized, for sure.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, I don't think that violence... Look, a lot of them seem like decent guys, right?
That's fine.
But I don't think that going down to a place to say, OK, well, there's going to be these protesters, so let's go down and see if some trouble happens.
tim pool
So what they do is, we're going to go to Portland and have a free speech rally or march.
And it's like, you do know what's going to happen if you go to Portland, right?
Well, we're allowed to do it.
That's true.
You are.
But you do know what's gonna happen if you go do that, right?
Well, to be fair, I was very critical of them over the Portland thing, and then nothing happened.
@dontwalkrun
Right.
tim pool
But it's almost exclusively that Antifa starts fights with them.
That's almost always how it happens.
But, the argument I guess is, if you go to a place where you know a bunch of crazy people are going to show up and start fighting you, like at a certain point, what you've got to understand about car accidents is that failure to avoid an accident is actually your fault.
You're familiar with that, right?
Yeah.
A lot of people don't realize this.
They think if someone rear-ends me, then it's their fault no matter what.
Actually, that's not true.
If there's a witness like, that car was like, down the street, and this guy sat there and didn't move when this guy was coming forward.
Like, failure to avoid an accident can be your fault.
But, I guess the big challenge of the Proud Boys is just like, where do you draw the line in saying, I won't go and have my rally because the hecklers veto?
So there's a challenge there.
Look, I don't want to go off on a big thing on the Proud Boys because we're talking about Trump and the journalists and we've got to finish the John Roberts thing.
But they're not white supremacists.
We can have a conversation about the morality of going to places like Portland where you know the left will act a fool and the right for you to do it peacefully without having people attack you, for sure.
But the John Roberts thing was funny because He's trying to get Kayleigh McEnany to issue a Trump quote live in real time with Trump not present, which she can't do.
@dontwalkrun
Right.
tim pool
And then when she said, let me read you the quotes from the president.
And he's like, yeah, but what about now?
And she goes, I can't do anything but read these things to you.
And then he gets attacked on Twitter and got all triggered about it.
Went on TV and he was like, I don't care.
I just don't.
It had to be asked.
No, it didn't.
It was asked over and over again.
I'm so sick of it.
But listen, the main point is it's going to help Trump.
You know why?
I understand you're saying there are people who believe Trump's a racist and he won't denounce this stuff.
Yeah, but those people weren't gonna vote for Trump anyway.
And I'd imagine a good portion of them know that the whole argument is BS and are just like, ooh, here's my chance to lie to convince more people that Trump's bad.
But regular people sitting at home are probably like, what's he talking about?
What's a proud boy?
Is that an LGBT?
I don't know what they're talking about.
@dontwalkrun
This is ridiculous.
Well, now they hear Proud Boy.
You know, Trump won't announce the Proud Boys, so that must mean that they're bad.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
@dontwalkrun
And not everybody saw that segment on CNN where... Enrique Tarrio.
Yeah, where... No, no, it was one of the commentators.
It's like, they're kind of like a...
fight club. They say they're not white supremacists and she wasn't trying to say like well they say they're not but you
know or they're they're a hate group you know like well Trump isn't Trump
told them to So of course you know that they're bad.
I think Trump misspoke.
tim pool
I think he was flustered and he wouldn't shut up.
So I know I said that and people were like, dude, Joe Biden was lying.
And I'm like, I know Joe Biden was lying.
And then Trump was like, wrong, no, and like jumping in.
@dontwalkrun
Two things can be true at the same time.
tim pool
Trump needs to let Joe Biden speak.
You know why?
Because he can't.
The more Joe Biden speaks, the more he goes, and with Trump cutting him off, Joe's probably like, whew, thank you.
How many gaffes does Joe Biden put out per minute?
The more Trump speaks, the less gaffes from Joe Biden.
There were several instances in that debate where Biden was like, a 20, 20 million, a 20, 20, 19, let him go for it.
Trump can, Yes.
Joe, speak more please.
@dontwalkrun
I want the White House to come out and say, look, um...
It turns out that the president was feeling under the weather and he just wasn't his old self.
Like he was just a little more, you know, he just wanted to get in there and he was just a little bit more triggered than normal.
And that's it.
And just say, normally he's not like this because he's had good debates.
unidentified
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
But then, but you have to also remember that in the first debate with Hillary, He did not do great.
He was off his game.
tim pool
He was off his game this time, too, for sure.
@dontwalkrun
He definitely was off his game.
I remember tweeting, I was like, come on, Trump needs to calm down.
And it's true.
And if there happens to be a second or third debate, and who knows at this point, Who knows if there's even going to be a vice presidential debate.
Lydia earlier was saying that maybe for like a national security reason, you know, that you might not want to put Mike Pence in a situation where he could be exposed.
That's a good point.
And it was a great point, and it makes a lot of sense.
I really do want to see a vice presidential debate because I would like to see a debate.
And Mike Pence, he's really good on the debate stage.
tim pool
I think he's going to demolish Kamala Harris.
@dontwalkrun
I think so too.
tim pool
And I know it's cliche of Tim Pool to rag on the Democrats, but think about Kamala as she is so fake.
She's just such a fake person wearing Tims.
Tupac's the greatest rapper alive.
Lady, it's been 30 years.
What are you talking about?
Did she, like, Google, like, she went to, like, a GeoCities website?
@dontwalkrun
What is the best rapper alive?
tim pool
Somehow she ends up on a website with, like, a gif of Macho Man Randy Savage doing, like, the peanut butter jelly dance, and there's, like, really crappy Comic Sans writing, and it's, like, Tupac's the best.
And she's like, that's good enough for me.
Remember when she, like, claimed to listen to rap that didn't come out when she was in college?
Like, she is plastic.
Now, Mike Pence is a lot of things, but he's a politician.
You know, he's, he's, he's a, I don't know what the right word is, but a suit, a square.
And I don't mean that in a bad way.
I mean, like he's a stodgy, normal, professional kind of downtown kind of guy.
@dontwalkrun
I mean, I think a lot of people know that already because if you remember the, if you remember the first coronavirus briefings, you'd have Trump going on there.
He's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then Mike Pence comes on, he's like, Yeah, I feel better now.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
@dontwalkrun
And he was so calm and you were just like, Mike Pence is looking very presidential right now.
Yeah, I feel better now.
Very presidential. And you know, like I'm feeling calm now.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly. It's true though.
@dontwalkrun
You know, because and you know, you have this Dr. Birx and they seem to get along.
And I actually, real, real quick at the coronavirus briefings at the beginning, I remember he was, he was saying, he was calling Dr. Fauci, but then he, he would call Dr. Birx.
He'd say, Debra.
And people are like, no, it's doctor.
You know, it's like, it's just, you know, just because she's a woman and you're like, no, because they're like, he calls Tony, he says, he refers to Tony, you know, you're just not like watching the whole thing, you're just like watching that five second clip.
tim pool
They're just finding something to pretend to be mad about.
unidentified
Of course!
tim pool
That's all it is, man.
@dontwalkrun
Of course it is.
But I just remember that, it was crazy.
tim pool
It's, it's, this is why I think this kind of stuff helps Trump, the, you know, the John Roberts thing, the Jim Acosta thing, is because I tell you, man, there's probably a bunch of regular people who are like, there's no way you're actually mad.
There's no way you're actually mad about this.
@dontwalkrun
He was mad.
I don't know why.
No, I- He was mad.
tim pool
I mean- I mean about, like, he called- Oh, the guy saying he called- Oh, John Roberts was mad.
No, I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm talking about the people who are like, He called Dr. Burks Deborah!
Oh.
I'm- I'm- I'm- There's gonna be some, like, suburban housewife sitting there with- with her- with her husband.
He's gonna get back from work and she's gonna be like, Who cares?
What does that have to do with anything?
My husband's losing his job because of the pandemic and we need to know what we're gonna do with our kids.
@dontwalkrun
Well, I will definitely say that when it comes to those dumb little things, especially, especially this Trump didn't, like he's condemned it a billion times, but he didn't, he hasn't done it yet or he won't do it now.
And you're like, like, do you think he changed his mind?
tim pool
Yeah, that's right.
There was like a period where like Trump woke up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.
I was wrong to denounce these groups 57 times.
@dontwalkrun
Oh my goodness.
unidentified
What was I thinking?
@dontwalkrun
You know, they're good people on both sides.
But I think a lot of... I just did a man in the street interview.
I went out to California, of all places, and there were people like... When you talk to the Biden people, they're like, well, I'm voting for Biden because I want to get rid of Trump.
But all of the Trump people were like, Uh, he's being treated unfairly.
He's condemned it multiple times.
Uh, like they, they know what they like about Trump, right?
They're like, he's done this, he's done this, he's done this.
Uh, so I, I think that, I think that the majority of Trump supporters know that this whole, that whole condemning, not condemning thing, it's just BS.
Right.
And the more the media pushes it, the more that his base will get riled up about it.
And it's almost like you're helping him get elected again.
tim pool
Look, this is the point.
If the Democrats and the media just took a second to breathe, and they said, how about we nominate someone who's just calm, a populist, moderate, kind of like Trump, but not as bombastic and kind of ill-tempered, they would win.
And people would be like, look, Donald Trump's talking about that border security, but so is John Jackson.
John Jackson doesn't have a potty mouth.
You know what I mean?
Look, I understand a lot of Trump supporters say, who cares if Trump talks this way?
And I know a lot of them say they like that he talks this way.
@dontwalkrun
To a point, yeah.
tim pool
But I've been in Ubers, I've been to restaurants, and I hear it all the time from people who say they're voting for Trump that they wish he wouldn't talk this way.
@dontwalkrun
We all say that.
tim pool
There are some people who are laughing and they love it.
It's hilarious and they like it.
@dontwalkrun
But I don't think that they're into politics as much.
Those are like the diehards.
There's people that I would not call myself super I love Trump.
I respect him.
I respect the fact that he's He's doing all the things he said he was gonna do, which is one of the reasons why the left is so freaked out.
Well, these peace agreements, man.
Oh my god, that peace agreement is so awesome!
tim pool
Three peace agreements.
Three, mind you, sir.
@dontwalkrun
And you can, like, we're, I mean, I'm all over the place here.
That kind of thing.
Oh, but you know, he's, he's a, he's a white supremacist.
He's a racist.
You're like, you're like, no, no.
Like, you think he would care?
You know, do you think he's just doing it for the Nobel prize because he's not going to win it?
tim pool
I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, when it comes to the foreign policy stuff, I have a special, uh, like, like rage and triggered that I get because I'm just so sick of the fake anti-war left.
There's a legit anti-war left.
And I got respect for them.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
I disagree with them on domestic policy issues, but I respect them.
@dontwalkrun
Like Tulsi.
tim pool
Right, right, absolutely.
People at the intercept.
And there's a bunch of other individuals that are very progressive that are very anti-war,
and they're legitimately anti-war, and they have given praise to Donald Trump for the
peace agreements.
There are also some progressives who are like, well, this agreement wasn't good enough.
And I'm like, shut up, dude.
If you have the choice between the Obama administration redux and the guy who just signed three peace agreements, shut up and take the win.
And you know what, the way I see it is, if the American people on the left are screaming because Donald Trump is, you know, a Republican, and they're worried about certain social issues, I'm like, yeah, well, maybe you shouldn't have been, you know, ignoring the war machine for as long as possible.
Because there's going to be a lot of people who are going to vote for Donald Trump specifically because he wants to bring our troops back and he's getting these peace agreements done.
That is better for the world than you complaining about the orange man being a white supremacist.
Sorry, that argument holds no water with me.
Because even if it were true, I'd be like, well, guess what?
America, if you think that's what you're getting, then maybe you shouldn't have voted for Obama twice.
I know we mentioned this the other day.
You brought up a really good point.
McCain and Romney would have been a lot worse.
McCain would have been really bad.
But it's not so much about I'm blaming them for, you know, the fact that those are the two candidates we have.
But if you were paying attention to what was being placed in front of you, we wouldn't be in a situation.
Because Donald Trump, in my opinion, is the incarnation of the anger people felt towards the establishment kicking them to the curb, be it Republican or Democrat.
That's another reason why Bernie Sanders did really well.
You had these two incarnations emerging, Sanders the populist left, Trump the populist right, and Bernie Sanders is a pushover.
And that's why he's out.
And then he sold out to the Democrats.
And then Donald Trump just started thrashing about saying, F you.
And so many people said, I just want these fake crony politicians to get out.
Here we go.
Good.
Donald Trump.
Well, he's got peace agreements under his belt.
He had a great economy before COVID.
He's done good enough things for me.
I say Trump's okay.
I used to say this.
Trump's not that bad, to quote Fleca's talks.
You know Fleca, right?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
tim pool
I love that segment he does where he walks around asking people.
He's like, Trump's bad, but He's not that bad, right?
And then people are like, yeah, okay.
I guess it's a brilliant, brilliant segment.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, that's good.
I like that.
tim pool
And so I used to be like, he's not that bad.
Like there was that woman on MSNBC who said Trump is talking about exterminating Latinos.
You remember that?
Did you know that?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
There's a woman, she was like, Donald Trump's talking about exterminating Latinos.
And it's like, what?
@dontwalkrun
They always say that.
tim pool
No, but that's part.
particularly over the top.
@dontwalkrun
Okay, that's very specific, but they're always saying that the concentration camps in the southern border.
unidentified
Exterminating, Jesus, people are nuts.
tim pool
And so I'd be like, come on, he's not that bad.
That's crazy.
@dontwalkrun
No, he's not.
They're not concentration camps, first of all, which I have heard from, I've actually done another,
I did a man in the street last year, and I only featured one, but I had three different people
come up and say that, referring to these concentration camps, like, well, they came,
like, they crossed the border.
It's like, they came here and they knew that they were going to be in these, uh, You know, in these detention centers, like, they're like, if they were gonna get caught, I mean, it's kind of their fault, right?
But also, you know... Oh, and can we talk about the Melania thing real quick?
tim pool
Which Molly thing?
@dontwalkrun
The tape.
tim pool
Oh, where she was like, trying to rescue the immigrant kid and they attacked her for it?
@dontwalkrun
She said like 50 different things, like, I don't want to be doing things on Christmas.
You know, it's like... I'm paraphrasing here.
I think that she believes that it's a waste of taxpayer money and time.
You know, uh, but you know, like decorating the white house in Christmas stuff, which nobody likes anyway.
They're always like, it's so stark, you know?
And you're like, well, she took the time to do it.
And if you don't like it, then she doesn't have to do it.
And now they're like, she doesn't want to do it.
She's terrible.
tim pool
You know what really bothers me with the Melania stuff is that she's not Trump.
Like she's not Donald.
Okay.
She is her own person.
@dontwalkrun
We're not electing her.
tim pool
Yeah, and she seems very lovely.
I understand why people are mad at Trump and stuff, but Melania doesn't do anything.
I mean, in terms of attacking people and being nasty or mean or getting into arguments, she's very nice and well-mannered and quiet.
@dontwalkrun
She seems like a very classy person.
tim pool
And they were like, she ripped out the Rose Garden.
You're not really mad about that.
Shut up.
Stop.
Okay?
It's the craziest thing to me when I see these people say like, Ivanka is such an awful person.
I'm like, what?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Look, I understand why you're mad at Trump, but Donald, I understand why, because he says things and he makes crude jokes and comments and he's off the cuff.
But the rest of like, look, Don Jr., he can be a bombastic personality.
@dontwalkrun
But he's not part of the administration.
Right, right, right.
You know, right?
tim pool
But like, Ivanka seems very nice.
@dontwalkrun
And she's doing it for free.
tim pool
I think that is, there's two things that happened recently that really do show you the anger and mean-spirited nature these people have is not legitimate.
The first is the obvious, the entire time bashing Melania and bashing Ivanka, Melania, of all of the people involved, does not deserve any of this.
I understand Ivanka advises Donald and she's involved.
Melania is the first lady, but what has she done?
Is she on camera attacking people and screaming?
No!
She decorated and it became a thing.
@dontwalkrun
Well, she wore a jacket that was owning the libs, according to her.
Which just makes me love her more.
tim pool
But it wasn't!
What did it say?
It said something like, don't you really care?
lydia smith
I really don't care, do you?
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
tim pool
Is that what it said?
@dontwalkrun
And it's not like it was made specifically for that situation.
It was like something she got at H&M.
tim pool
Exactly.
It was a common thing that she just bought.
@dontwalkrun
And she was just like, you know what?
I'm going to wear this because... Watch this.
unidentified
Watch this.
tim pool
I saw a meme post where it was like, what, it said something like, there's no, there's no, you know, what was it?
The socks, the cat or whatever, I don't know, Bill Clinton's dog or something, patches, whatever.
@dontwalkrun
Right.
tim pool
They were like, there's no dog at the White House, no cat, no children running and opening Christmas presents.
What has happened to our country?
Instead of planting a garden, our first lady destroys it.
unidentified
And I was like, wait, What are you talking about?
tim pool
It's so crazy.
lydia smith
The rose garden thing to me was really interesting because they were looking in the shrubbery.
Literally in the shrubbery.
And they're like, look at this pattern.
This is a nice pattern.
tim pool
Because it had angles and they were like, oh wait, it wasn't.
lydia smith
You want to talk about a dog whistle?
No, it wasn't.
You want to talk about a dog whistle?
If you're looking for that, man, I feel bad for you.
tim pool
It's because the shrubs were at an angle, like an arrow.
But then there's also an outline.
So they were like, it says KKK.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Melania, she's from Slovenia?
Is that where she's from?
lydia smith
Yeah, Slovenia.
tim pool
This is insane stuff.
Okay, so that's the first.
The second thing is, Scott Adams did a periscope after the debate and he's like, Trump lost my vote.
So you know what these leftists did?
They started threatening and insulting him and attacking him.
It's like, what is... You won!
You won, you got him!
This big, well-known, persuasive Trump supporter has come out angry.
And instead of saying, come over here brother, let me get you a beer, you started screaming in his face.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So then Scott tweets, I'm voting for Trump again, because these people are so nasty.
And I'm like, that's that, that, you know what man, when people talk about Trump's attitude as like a turnoff and
stuff, I hear you.
But I'll take the one nasty guy over the horde of nasty guys.
You know what I mean?
So if there's no redemption on the left, cancel culture and this far left whatever, I don't want to step foot in that castle.
I don't want to go anywhere near those people because they're all nasty.
Now Donald Trump can say nasty things.
He's not that bad in terms of even his character.
He's got character defects for sure.
But I can sit in the right wing pub as a liberal and they'll buy me a beer.
And they'll laugh and be like, oh, man, you're so wrong about these policies, man.
But, you know, getting along is more important.
@dontwalkrun
You know, that's a good point, because, you know, on my personal Facebook, you know, I have a whole bunch of friends that have no idea what I do.
tim pool
That you're secretly a white, you support a white supremacist president, right?
@dontwalkrun
And look, they have their views, whether they're misguided or just very triggered.
I still respect these people.
If I saw them, I wouldn't be like, you're so stupid.
I would respect them as people.
But if I came out and was like, I'm voting for Trump again, I'd just be unfriended.
My whole thing.
You know, when I did my Last Man in the Street, I was being very nice.
People were like, wow, he's being really nice to those Biden voters.
And I'm like, well, you know, it's like, well, first of all, I feel sorry for them.
No, I'm kidding.
But when I do that kind of thing, I'm not trying to own them.
I'm not trying to be like, I tricked you, you know.
But yeah, I've seen stuff where people are welcomed into these circles, where they're like, hey, it's this African-American guy.
Like, you Trump voters, you hate African-Americans, right?
Like, no, come!
tim pool
Have some water with us.
Did you see that video where the Infowars lady is talking to this black dude?
And she's like, come on over.
She's like, what do you think?
@dontwalkrun
I think that was the one I saw.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
She's like, come on over to the Trump supporters and see what's going on.
And he basically says, I don't agree with none of this, but you know, I want to see what it's all about.
And then they hug him and they shake his hand.
One lady gives him a kiss on the cheek.
And she's like, as long as we get along and we're all Americans.
He looks at this woman and he goes, he gets the kiss on the cheek and he's like, oh man, if that's what's going on in there, I'm down.
She's like, let's go to the other side and see what happens.
And then she goes over there and she says she's a Trump supporter and they're screaming.
And then you just see the guy's face go blank like, what is happening?
And it's kind of sad.
@dontwalkrun
It is.
People are very... Republicans are very tolerant people, you know?
tim pool
They want to be left alone a lot, you know what I mean?
@dontwalkrun
This is where I think a lot of that polling comes from.
When, you know, you get a call on your landline and you're like, are you voting for Biden or Trump?
You're like, I don't want any trouble, lady.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
@dontwalkrun
Joe Biden?
tim pool
You know?
Yeah.
ian crossland
I think, like, there's a lot of self-loathing going on on the Democrats' side since the WikiLeaks came out with Hillary kind of upending Bernie and then Do these people smoke pot?
I don't.
I don't drink, I don't smoke, no tattoos, nothing.
against Trump. So they like, they don't even like themselves. They don't, they don't respect their
candidates. So they have all this bubbling anger that they end up taking out on people that aren't
unidentified
in their party. Do these people smoke pot? Hopefully. I don't.
tim pool
I, you know, I've, I've, I don't drink, I don't smoke, no tattoos, nothing. I'm very
boring, but there's like, you got to chill, man.
Like, where are those hippies at to, like, sit them down and be like, brother, brother, brother.
ian crossland
The problem with pot is it just accentuates how you're feeling.
So if you're angry and you smoke pot, you get angrier.
tim pool
But I don't literally mean it.
I'm just saying, like, y'all need to sit back.
Like, dude, is it really... The craziest thing to me is that there was... So I did a segment today for my main channel.
There's a guy named Thomas Friedman.
He's a New York Times columnist and he was telling Anderson Cooper that we're on the
verge of a second civil war.
Oh, Tim said it.
Because it's a meme.
But I'm like, so this guy's telling Anderson Cooper and Anderson Cooper's like, do you
really believe that?
And he's like, yes, it's happening here.
I'm like, bro, do you really think the world is ending because of Donald Trump?
You need to sit down, crack open a Bud Light.
Just watch some Family Guy.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's too offensive for you now.
I don't know.
What do they watch these days?
Modern Family.
Just have a good laugh at some sitcom and situational thing.
That's the progressive show, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
Like that?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, good.
All right.
There you go.
Just calm down.
Somebody take their phones away.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And give them just a week with no internet and watch all of this just go away.
lydia smith
I like that.
@dontwalkrun
That's actually a good point.
Can you just imagine... I was talking to my dad about the... I was like, what would have happened if social media existed during the Vietnam War?
Because everything is so amplified.
I'm sure the people were very angry about being in Vietnam, or just hating all of that.
I mean, can you just imagine if Twitter existed back then or Facebook?
People are tweeting conspiracy theories and, and, uh, oh, we hate the president or, you know, wishing for his death from COVID.
tim pool
That's freaky, man.
That's freaky stuff.
@dontwalkrun
That is, that kind of stuff is, First of all, it's not helpful at all.
It's not helpful.
It's like, because you're just going to make the other side, the opposite side angry.
Two, it's just vile.
And the fact that Twitter is so selective about who they Who they punish, you know for somebody somebody says one
thing against the president That that's vile like that like what hope you die is you
know, it's like and they're very explicit about it It's like no, that's bad. That's that's something that's
where a reportable right?
But but you know, and then you report him. It's like no, it's fine. You know, I I think I
tim pool
Wonder is Jack Dorsey evil, okay?
Okay, so I've met him.
Obviously, I've talked to him.
I've had conversations with him on several occasions.
But even like since I was on Rogan, I've talked to him periodically.
And the reason why I think that he's not a good person is that what he built and what is currently happening in his name is a machine that generates hate.
That's what Twitter is.
Twitter is not this magical device that shares information.
It gamifies being a mean person.
So you'll see this now.
The pundits.
Like, the craziest thing to me, when you see these journalists, all of a sudden, there's this one dude who was making fun of me.
A guy I've never said a bad word about.
And I DM'd him, because I know I'm like, I don't understand, like, because he's clearly a progressive, and I was like, why were you insulting me in this way?
I've never said a mean thing about you, like, I'm confused.
No response.
It's because when you say, this person is a dumb piece of garbage, what a moron, lolol, you get retweets, you get likes.
So it creates a whole, it creates a whole genre, the reply guy.
There are people who make six figures, and I mean it, they make six figures, because what they do is they keep refreshing Trump's Twitter feed until Trump tweets something, and Trump will say something like, fake news, exclamation point.
And they'll comment, the only thing fake about the news right now is the fact that your hair is on it when they talk about you.
And then they get a thousand retweets and likes, and then they go, hey, thanks for the support, here's my PayPal.
And it works.
So people have monetized and gamified hatred on Twitter.
Facebook, not so much.
Facebook, if you post something like, this person's a dick, people on Facebook aren't gonna hit share.
They're gonna be like, well that's weird.
On Twitter though, you screen grab someone's picture, you say what an ugly moron, and then it gets shared like crazy, and retweeted, and everyone's piling on and laughing.
Twitter is literally two giant mobs that are running around smashing windows and screaming at the top of their lungs, non-stop, and it's escalating and getting crazier.
To the benefit of the Republicans, Twitter bans them.
You know why that's a benefit?
Not to the Republican who gets banned.
But because Twitter is extremely strict, only the most clean-cut and respected-looking individuals stay on Twitter.
There are even respectable and normal conservatives who get banned.
So what you get is you have two groups, and there's the left and there's the right, and then you have wingnut crazy leftists and you have wingnut crazy right-wingers.
The right-wingers are gone.
The wingnuts, they banned all of the fringe elements of the right.
So all you have left now are like run-of-the-mill legal observer, like lawyers and business people who support the president.
But on the left, you literally have Antifa organizing violence and riots.
But that infects the mainstream leftists too.
So when the only conversations among the right are like, well, I believe Donald Trump's text doesn't go too far enough.
And then you end up with, um, that's not a real policy.
I'm just making a joke.
You end up with the leftists where you'll get some, you know, fringe Antifa person wishing death upon a political figure.
Then that gets retweeted like crazy.
And the mainstream leftist sees it and says, that's what people want.
And then they return in kind the same kind of vitriolic nonsense and vile garbage.
Then the Democratic politicians step in and they see this is what the left is talking about and they go for it.
They go for it.
So I think the fact that these social media companies are biased is actually constraining the right in a good way while it's bad for the individual and people shouldn't be getting banned this way.
As a collective, they're actually looking cleaner and more respectable than the left.
I think that's why many liberals are like, I'm a conservative now and then jumping over
because they see these conservatives that are like normal looking, clean cut, respectable,
and they see a left that's off the rails, is spitting, you know,
vile and vitriolic garbage at Melania and at regular people.
@dontwalkrun
You know, I really hate some of these users on Twitter that it's, they're, it's like you said,
you know, they, they wait for Trump to say something like they, they, they basically.
Their job is Twitter full-time.
tim pool
They make a lot of money.
@dontwalkrun
Like DefiantBrooklynDad or MrsKrassenstein.
Yeah, I'm so sure.
I'm so sure.
And the second that Trump... You're right.
You're exactly right.
And I don't know how they're making money.
tim pool
After they get a viral tweet, they link their PayPal.
And they're like, PayPal me.
@dontwalkrun
I hate those people so much.
I hate them.
tim pool
Just think about how, I have to imagine these people, after like the day is done, and they're looking at their bank accounts, they start crying, you know?
Could you imagine like, in a hundred years, there's like an encyclopedia, Wikipedia, whatever, or like Neuralink Knowledge Network, and then people are like, ah yes, Brooklyn Dead, he's famous for constantly complaining to President Trump.
He never contributed anything of substance other than generic complaints about Trump's general behavior.
lydia smith
Valuable.
tim pool
But he is well known for this and frowned upon.
lydia smith
What have we become?
tim pool
And that's their legacy.
You know the story of the Nobel Prizes?
That Alfred Nobel invented dynamite.
And so then someone published his obituary early and they called him the Merchant of Death.
And when he saw it, he panicked and he was like, is that what I am?
So then he immediately was like, I got to do something better with this and then created the Nobel Prize or whatever.
I think that's the general story. That was it, right?
ian crossland
Man, I don't know. I think he was also an arms manufacturer.
tim pool
Was that it?
ian crossland
Maybe how he got that notoriety.
But I don't know much about him.
tim pool
But it was something like that.
So he panicked because they accidentally published this.
And he realized his legacy was garbage.
And he was like, I don't want to be that.
I don't want people to look back and say, like, this is what the person did.
lydia smith
You should do that more.
tim pool
So I wonder, these people who are on Twitter, man, I'll tell you what, dude, there's a guy I know.
He's a journalist.
He was a journalist and he was an okay journalist.
And then he started figuring out that when he replied to Donald Trump, he started getting a ton of followers.
And he messaged me one day and he was like, dude, I gained like 5,000 followers.
Like.
Cause I've been tweeting at Trump and I was like, bro, don't do it, man.
Do not go down this road.
Listen, I was like, a lot of people are just like, you're in a crowd of people screaming and throwing feces at a wall.
That's what it is.
There's nothing of substance.
Trump isn't even there.
Like they think they're yelling at Trump.
Trump's not there.
In their mind, they're walking up to him and going like, hey man, F you Trump!
Which you're allowed to do, by all means.
But in reality, you're walking up to a brick wall with a picture of Trump's face on it, and you're screaming and you're all laughing and high-fiving each other.
Meanwhile, the president's doing whatever.
He's not reading your comments.
I warned him.
I don't think he can find work anymore.
Because I remember there was a couple people I talked to who had gone down this road.
And I was like, They're like, Hey man, I'm really looking for work and wondering like, you know, you're doing your, your companies are doing well.
unidentified
I'm wondering.
tim pool
And I was like, bro, I can't hire you.
Are you crazy?
Like you're, you're, you're, you're generating followers off of just saying dumb things to Trump.
There's no substance in what you do.
Your, your resume right now is that you're a guy who complains to the president with generic insults.
There's no job for you anymore, bro.
So some of these people actually deleted their accounts.
No joke.
@dontwalkrun
Well, here's a question continuing on with this legacy.
What happens when Joe Biden wins?
I'm going to laugh.
First of all, I'm going to cry for America.
tim pool
No way, dude.
Listen, listen, listen.
We're all in this big boat, and we're going just downstream.
There's a waterfall in front of us.
There's like a waterfall on one side and like a Category 5 rapid.
It's gonna be bumpy, but like one's... You know what, man?
For those brief seconds as Biden gets elected, I'm gonna be sitting in the back of that raft while everyone's screaming, and I'm gonna crack that beer and be like, here we go, baby.
ian crossland
If Biden wins, it will be so bad for four years.
Everyone in the country, the people that hated Trump, that didn't want to vote for Biden but did it anyway, are gonna hate him so much that anyone can win in 2024.
tim pool
That'll be interesting.
@dontwalkrun
Cry for America.
I don't necessarily mean like for the Republic or or Democracy I'm talking about just like how dumb people are to me actually voting for Joe Biden.
That's why I would laugh But yeah, and and I think ultimately it'll be one of those situations where it's like well We look back on it and laugh and that's true but what happens to The Washington Post.
Look what happened with the Washington Post, where they basically built an entire journalistic team to investigate Trump.
That's their job.
That's all they do.
You think they're going to have one for Biden?
tim pool
Nope.
@dontwalkrun
No, of course not.
tim pool
You know Ryan Long, right?
@dontwalkrun
Yes.
tim pool
So for those who aren't familiar, he's a comedian.
We had him on the show.
He's hilarious.
But he did a segment, a skit, where it was like, it's a newsroom and they're sitting around and it's election night and they're like, Biden-Harris!
unidentified
Woo!
Yeah!
tim pool
And then it's like a month later and they're all sweating and like, what do we write about?
There's nothing to do.
What do we write?
What did we write about before?
I don't even remember.
It's all they do now.
And what's, what's really funny is what people don't realize is I think if
Trump doesn't win, they're going to, they're going to keep going.
Oh, there's going to, they're going to find a fill in for what Trump is.
So they're going to say like the alt right or something like they've, they've done
before, but that's what they'll go for.
And I mean, they're, they, they can't give up the machine.
You know what I mean?
They created it.
@dontwalkrun
But then what happens to all these personalities or whatever, you know, like Mrs. Krasenstein?
That just makes me funny.
Makes me laugh.
Like, what happened?
tim pool
Well, hold on, hold on.
For people who don't know, it's because there was originally two guys called the Krasenstein brothers who would reply to Trump all the time and they got banned.
@dontwalkrun
And now... Because they were manipulating the numbers of their followers apparently.
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't believe it.
I really don't.
@dontwalkrun
I think... Well, why would they get banned?
tim pool
Why would Milo Yiannopoulos get banned for the same reason?
Milo Yiannopoulos got banned.
They said he had multiple accounts.
They say that about everybody.
It sounds like bunk BS.
So I don't know why they got banned.
I'm not going to accuse them.
If Twitter doesn't release evidence, then as far as I'm concerned, Twitter can't prove anything.
@dontwalkrun
Okay, that's fair.
tim pool
But these guys just reply to Trump all the time, get banned.
All of a sudden their wives pop up or like the wife pops up or something.
Is that the mother?
@dontwalkrun
And if you look at the profile picture of Mrs. Krasinski and it's just like the deadest eyes
I don't want to wrap wearing Wearing a mask that says, uh, Biden 2020 or whatever you're saying.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure it is, like, someone... Helen Frasenstein?
Yeah.
Yeah.
lydia smith
That's what made me think it was the mom.
tim pool
Oh, the mom.
@dontwalkrun
I don't know.
But I doubt that this person is actually who they say they are.
That's my point.
tim pool
You know what really bothers me about a lot of this is that...
I think it was Joe Biden who said, you know, can you imagine not having to think about Donald Trump ever again or something?
Like that's a part of his campaign.
Like it'll be over.
@dontwalkrun
Close your eyes.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
Hold on.
Hold on.
You don't get to scream as loud as possible in my face, Donald Trump, while bashing me over the head with like a foam hammer.
And then you're like, don't you want it to stop?
Don't you want it to stop?
Just make me president and it'll stop!
I'm like, no!
I'm gonna be like, okay Donald Trump, punch this guy in the face and get him out of my face.
I'm not gonna give you power because you've been screaming at me for four years.
Dude, the New York Times won two Pulitzers for Russiagate.
It's not even real!
Like, dude, you know what's funny?
People are like, well, they won Pulitzers because they covered the story as it was known at the time.
Here's my description of this.
If I said to somebody, I would like to pay you $100 to mow my lawn, and they go, You got it, champ.
And then an hour later, I walk outside, and the guy across the street from me has his lawn mowed.
I'd be like, you did an amazing job.
Award-winning, even.
But it's not my lawn.
You did the wrong job.
You can say that journalism was great, and they investigated, and they did the wrong thing.
It's like, if I said, could you carry this, you know, sack of heavy stones into my basement?
And then they walk off and carry it a mile away.
I'm like, well, you carried it a lot farther than I wanted you to, but I have no idea where you were going or why.
@dontwalkrun
But good job, good job.
Yeah, good job.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm award-winning.
You'll win an award.
No, but you know what really happens?
It's like, I hire this guy to mow my lawn.
I come out an hour later, my neighbor's lawn is mowed, and then his buddy walks over and goes, whoa, good job, here's an award, and high-fives him.
That's what the Pulitzer Prize is.
They're awarding themselves for like, they're not even covering a real story.
Could you imagine if they actually investigated and they were like, whoa, this is fake!
@dontwalkrun
And nobody calls on The Times to go, um, you know, you kind of got all that wrong.
You should maybe give that thing back, you know, just for journalistic integrity.
tim pool
Maybe the Iraq war was the time they should have like, you know, hung their tie up and said, well, America, we, uh, we're out.
@dontwalkrun
I mean, I don't get to put, look, they gave, um, they gave a rap album.
Pulitzer.
unidentified
Really?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, they gave, um... Oh, what's his name?
tim pool
Was it Common?
Not Common.
@dontwalkrun
No, no, um... I gotta look this up.
You guys know.
unidentified
I gotta look it up.
@dontwalkrun
In the chat.
tim pool
The chat's gonna light up and they're gonna be like, we know who it is!
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, it's, um... I mean, it was a good album that I can't remember the name of.
tim pool
Pulitzer Prizes go to fiction as well.
@dontwalkrun
But it went to an... Yeah, but it went to an...
It went to a wrap. I'm like, really?
tim pool
Like, no, that's normal. Yeah. It goes to broadcast. It goes to music.
Yeah. But I'm just, I'm just saying like, how do you win an award for like fake news
and then brag about it? And then they announced we're going to shift from Trump and Russia to
Trump and racism. And then now all of a sudden everything's Trump's racist.
@dontwalkrun
Well, and then it went and then it went to, you know, Trump and COVID and then Trump back
back to Trump and racism.
So they're throwing everything at the wall.
tim pool
Except the kitchen sink.
@dontwalkrun
Is that the phrase?
tim pool
Seeing what sticks.
@dontwalkrun
Here's a question for you, Tim.
We had, what, 25, 26 Democratic candidates.
tim pool
Did we have that many?
@dontwalkrun
It was a lot.
It was a lot.
lydia smith
Too many.
@dontwalkrun
Would you say it was Bernie's fault?
tim pool
In what way?
@dontwalkrun
Well, Bernie Sanders, he divided the party, clearly, in 2016.
He's an independent.
He's an independent guy.
If you go on his page, that's his thing.
He touts that.
And he pushed so much of the party to the left.
And so many people were like, well, you know, Hillary stole the election from Bernie, which I don't quite believe, or the DNC, and that's why a lot of people... I mean, they cheated, man.
tim pool
They were giving questions in advance.
That's an obvious one.
@dontwalkrun
It all comes down to votes.
unidentified
Right.
@dontwalkrun
And he couldn't get the turnout.
And that's, you know, even in the earlier states, like he didn't win a state, right?
In 2016?
tim pool
No, he did.
Yeah, he won Michigan, I think, didn't he?
Oh no, no, no, wait.
@dontwalkrun
I'm sure, okay, he won a few, but he didn't, you know, overall.
But then, you have so many people coming in that were on the left, they were like, they had all these, they were co-opting a lot of Bernie's ideas.
And now you're spreading everything out.
You have 25, 26 people that have all these, well, I like this thing about Bernie, but I don't like this.
I like this about Bernie, but I don't like this.
I don't think it's Bernie.
tim pool
Because Bernie's positions don't even, like Bernie gave up on most of his positions.
Like Bernie and Trump had a lot of the same positions in 2015.
It's true.
You can actually look up all the old stories where they say like Bernie Sanders and Trump are remarkably similar.
Bernie Sanders was pro-border security.
He was anti-free trade agreement.
He was talking about the working class.
Very, very similar.
I think there were like six major bullet points that I think Newsweek or some outlet put together, where they were like, wow!
The difference was Bernie was very left on a lot of, you know, welfare issues and Trump was not.
Trump was more right.
And ultimately Bernie just gave in to the establishment and then started spewing whatever garbage rhetoric his, you know, the talking points were given to him.
What I think happened, because I experienced this when I worked for the ABC News Univision company, the marketing people were seeing skewed data on social media from identitarianism and believing it represented America when in fact it just represented angry people.
But so what happened was they were like... I was actually told this.
Moms share the most when they're... Moms share the most and they share the most when they're angry.
So that's what our target is.
Get as many shares as possible.
So make, you know, middle-aged mothers angry.
So they start pumping out this content.
Then they think, that's the most valuable person because they'll share ten times more.
That means more traffic.
So the demographic was like... It used to be the 18 to 35 year old man.
Now they're like, yeah.
18-35 year old man's worth more to an advertiser, but a woman will share 10 times as much if she's angry.
So what happens then is, I'd imagine this similar narrative made its way to say like Bernie Sanders.
And they probably started telling him, you're not going to win if you go for the populist working class message.
You need to condemn white people.
So Bernie Sanders literally did that on stage.
Do you remember this?
When he said, if you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor?
You don't know what it's like to live in a ghetto?
That was, like, a shocking moment for me because, like, Bernie Sanders all of a sudden betraying the working class and the Rust Belt who are predominantly white?
Why would he say that?
Of course they know what it's like to be poor.
They live in poverty because the factory's all left.
@dontwalkrun
He did get more.
Well, he.
Unfortunately, he was competing with all these other people who were co-opting a bunch of ideas.
And then he was like, well, I need to I need to go even further left.
That's I think that's what his people were.
tim pool
Oh, definitely.
@dontwalkrun
You know, and then and that's how we get to Joe Biden, because every everybody's everybody seems so crazy.
You have Julian Castro saying, oh, we're going to decriminalize the border when you have Bernie Sanders at a town hall saying, we're We can't let everybody in, that's crazy.
tim pool
Joe Biden now is a Picasso of policy.
What was the thing he said that the Green New Deal is like the framework for his- For Joe's, yeah.
And then he was like, I don't support that, that's not my plan, I beat the socialists.
Pick one, Joe.
@dontwalkrun
I am the Democrats.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, he said that, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
lydia smith
I am the Senate.
@dontwalkrun
Exactly.
If you... I am the Senate.
I love that.
The Emperor is the best part of those movies.
No, he is, really.
He's the best.
But let's... Now I'm thinking of Star Wars.
lydia smith
Oh, sorry.
unidentified
Well, don't worry, Star Wars died a long time ago.
@dontwalkrun
Well, let's say that... Oh, okay, Joe Biden, yeah.
In his climate plan on his website, It says that the Green New Deal is a framework.
It said that, and I'm just waiting for them to kind of surreptitiously- Remove it.
Edit that page.
unidentified
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Because I have it ready.
I have a screenshot.
It's in the archive already.
I was just totally waiting for that to happen because when he said, oh, well, you know, I have my, he also said, I have my own Green New Deal.
Well, not really.
tim pool
If Joe wins, they're gonna put him in a wheelchair, put a blanket on his lap, and wheel him into the sunroom.
And he's gonna bow his head and go...
And then Kamala's going to walk in and be like, okay, who are we putting in prison?
lydia smith
He's going to call it on it.
Yeah.
His whole presidency.
tim pool
Yeah.
I genuinely don't believe that Joe Biden would be president.
I think most people agree with that.
@dontwalkrun
Everybody knows this.
tim pool
There was a sign, it was really funny, that went viral.
It says Harris in big, bold letters, but the I in Harris is a tiny Biden.
And it says 2020.
@dontwalkrun
I was just thinking about that.
tim pool
Yeah, everybody knows.
Everybody knows.
@dontwalkrun
Everybody knows.
It's the worst kept secret.
I mean, especially since for most of last year, when people would say, well, are you going to serve out a second term?
Do you think you would run for a second term?
He's like, uh, well, we haven't gotten there yet.
Like who would say that?
Everybody's like, well, of course I would want to, you know, run all eight years and they don't.
tim pool
He doesn't want to run.
unidentified
Well, Didn't he say he was a transition?
@dontwalkrun
But could you imagine him campaigning again?
Campaigning in four years?
tim pool
He's 81.
@dontwalkrun
No, campaigning again, you know, still with the mask, still out of his basement.
tim pool
You know what his campaign slogan's gonna be in his second term?
@dontwalkrun
No.
tim pool
I pooped my pants.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I have a South Park reference, by the way.
@dontwalkrun
You made it your own.
tim pool
I made it my own.
With all due respect, man, there's a certain point at which you can't be in the big leagues anymore.
There's periods where pro athletes who are really, really good realize that their stats
are getting weaker, their reaction time is getting slower, and then you get these up
and coming youngsters who are dominating the field and they bow out.
In skateboarding we have a thing where they say when you start off they call you an am,
an amateur, even though you're getting paid.
Then eventually you get your own signature model, your pro model.
Then you're a pro.
It's interesting because pros actually tend to be not nearly as good as amateur skaters.
Because the M-level people are fighting as hard as possible for that slot.
Once you go pro, you're legit, you're on tour, you got your own model, it's selling, you're getting a bunch of attention.
Then there's legend status.
When you're not good enough to hang with the pros anymore because you're old, you know, you're in your forties, you're still really good.
There's a, there's a bunch of, uh, former, like they're still pros, but they call them legend.
They recognize they're not competing with the 19 year olds in the, in the big leagues anymore.
Like it's a natural part of our lives, man.
Joe Biden, it's time to go home, crack open a nice book or, or I'm, I'm, you know what?
Right there and back again.
That's what you're going to do.
You're going to go and you're going to sit down and you're right there and back again by Joe Biden Baggins.
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Well, if Joe Biden would have run, if he, if he would have run in 2016.
Against Hillary.
And against Bernie, too, obviously.
Do you think Biden would have had a chance to beat Hillary?
Yeah.
If Obama came out and said, this is my boy, you know?
tim pool
He wouldn't have done that.
Obama wouldn't endorse Biden.
ian crossland
I think O'Biden, Obama, and Hillary all decided it was going to be Hillary.
tim pool
You say O'Biden?
ian crossland
Did I say that?
tim pool
You just said O'Biden and Obama.
ian crossland
O'Biden, Obama, and Hillary all decided which of the two of them was going to run, I think.
And they were like, Hillary wants it more.
tim pool
She's a woman.
@dontwalkrun
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Joe Biden came out in the Rose Garden with Obama.
And this was months after Beau, his son, died.
And he said that he wanted to run, but it was too late to run a successful campaign.
And that was it.
People thought that he would run.
And I remember working in a newsroom where we were all kind of like, is he going to make
an announcement this week?
And and then he came out and he said, I don't think I could run a successful campaign.
And that was it.
And because, you know, he was he was sad about his son.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
OK.
@dontwalkrun
But he would have run.
I don't think I don't think Obama gave a crap that that he didn't promise Hillary anything.
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
He didn't promise her a damn thing.
And if Biden would have wanted to run, I think Obama would have given him the all clear.
And it's like, we're going to continue the Obama administration, essentially.
tim pool
I just got to say, man, if Biden wins, can't you guys recognize how hilarious it's going to be?
Like, he's gonna be negotiating with Iran, and he's gonna fall asleep, and he's gonna... He won't negotiate.
ian crossland
He'll walk out of the room.
That's the problem.
tim pool
No, I don't think he'll walk out of the room.
@dontwalkrun
I think they're gonna be... He'll send Stacey Abrams, his Secretary of State.
He'll send her over to Iran, and it'll be fine.
tim pool
He's gonna be in a negotiation, and he's gonna be like, you know, come on, man, you know, we gotta make sure the trade...
And he's gonna wake up, and there's gonna be a signed a treaty on his lap.
He's gonna be like, oh, what happened?
I'm like, you signed the treaty, we're good.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
He's like, oh, okay, and it's like you will give three trillion dollars to, you know, in cash, unmarked bills.
Yeah, pallets of cash.
ian crossland
He's such a terrible diplomat.
tim pool
It's going to be hilarious when he's doing like State of the Union addresses and he's going to be like, there's going to be a pandemic.
Could you imagine the pandemic under Biden?
@dontwalkrun
It's going to be the first Zoom State of the Union address.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm saying like, imagine if he was giving a speech on like banning travel to China or something, but with his gaffes.
My fellow Americans, I banned, uh, you know, uh, we banned, uh, you know, Europe.
lydia smith
Wait, you banned Europe?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
The coronavirus is a serious problem and, you know, uh, and then people are going to be sitting at their homes just, like, staring at the screen with their eyes are going to be, like, wide open, just like, I have no idea what's happening right now.
lydia smith
Stock market.
tim pool
And then, like, all of a sudden, like, a nuclear plant explodes because Biden was supposed to be warning Americans about it.
And then people are just like, all right.
I think, I don't think the world's going to end.
And I think if you thought Trump was hilarious, you know, because he personally is making jokes.
You got to recognize the like Benny Hill music themed Biden slipping on banana peels is going to be a very hilarious presidency as well.
You know what I mean?
He's like running around and just all the bumbling, fumbling buffoonery of a Biden campaign.
ian crossland
Funny like a guy running around with his hair on fire and he falls on his knees as his scalp starts melting.
tim pool
That's a little bit more brutal.
ian crossland
It's not really funny.
unidentified
Like you laugh at first, but then you realize, oh my God, he's on fire.
@dontwalkrun
Well, let's say this.
Let's say that Biden is elected president of the United States.
That doesn't scare you.
I don't know what will, but... Let me pause, too.
tim pool
I am joking.
Like, I think it's going to have a serious negative consequence on the working class and people's jobs.
ian crossland
His negotiating power is low.
He will go to Russia and try and negotiate with Putin, and Putin will be like... He walks out of the room naked.
Come on, man, he'll just leave.
tim pool
He walks out of the room naked, and he's like, that was a great deal!
And Putin's got like everything he owns and he's got the keys to America.
He's got everything.
ian crossland
Trump does have an ego, but Biden has a massive ego.
@dontwalkrun
Well, I'm hoping for two things.
One, that he's going to do all these executive actions and hopefully they will be challenged.
You know, like when Kamala Harris, Kamala, sorry, I don't want to be that person.
When they were saying that, you know, that she would do executive actions on guns and executive actions on Medicare, like, oh, I'm going to give Congress 100 days.
I don't think the Senate's going anywhere.
I think that the Republicans are going to keep the Senate.
So there's going to be checks and balances, at least at least for the first two years.
I don't think that if Biden is elected, it is going to be Wow.
as devastating as some Republicans would think, just because we have that firewall in the Senate.
And who knows, we might even, we could gain a seat in the Senate.
It's possible.
Wow.
It's possible.
tim pool
I don't know about the House.
Don't the betting odds have the Democrats for everything?
Like to just sweep and control it all?
@dontwalkrun
But that's these polls.
You cannot trust these polls.
tim pool
Sure, but doesn't a part of you just kind of wish for it to be true so that you can take the black paint under your eyes and rip your sleeves off and then join the resistance and go underground and fight back against the Terminators?
I'm kidding.
It's not going to be like that.
unidentified
That's the plan.
tim pool
I think if Biden wins in all seriousness, most people aren't going to notice.
There's going to be a few things here and there.
I think it'll be really bad for us in the long term.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, sure.
tim pool
In the long term.
So that's going to be the erosion of our manufacturing base will resume.
The international trade agreements that saw our jobs being shipped overseas will resume.
But what Obama and Biden were doing that was clever was they were doing it very slowly.
@dontwalkrun
O-Biden-Bama.
unidentified
O-Biden-Bama.
lydia smith
Yeah, O-Biden-Bama.
tim pool
The Obama, the O-Biden-Bama administration.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It was a slow erosion where people felt like there was just very slow growth, but very slow growth is better than total collapse.
But we don't even make our own medicine.
You know, when the pandemic hit, it was like, wow, how weakened were we?
We go back to that.
@dontwalkrun
That's crazy.
tim pool
If Joe Biden wins, you may not notice immediately.
You may not notice in four years.
In four years, someone else might win.
But in 10 years, you'll be wondering what happened to your children's future.
lydia smith
Yep.
@dontwalkrun
Well, there's a couple of things that I'm concerned about.
You know, the left wing of the party, of the Democratic Party, is like, well, we want to go to this clean economy.
You know, green economy, get rid of fracking, get rid of fossil fuels, get rid of no more drilling.
And Biden's like, no, no, no, we can't do that.
We can't, we can't stop that.
Uh, there needs to be a transition.
There needs to be this.
But if, if this November suddenly the, you know, the House and the Senate are run by Democrats and suddenly these people like Joe Manchin, uh, who's, you know, like a big, uh, a big energy guy, he decides to flip and change his mind.
So yeah, I like this.
I like this green new deal stuff.
Do you think that if Joe Biden received a bill on his desk to ban fracking, that he would just do it?
He would do it.
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
He would do it in a heartbeat.
He would be like, this is, this is the opportunity.
unidentified
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
You know, uh, because climate change is our existential crisis.
Well, that and racism, we need to, we need to end racism.
tim pool
I think Joe Biden's just like, tell me what to say.
I'm so tired.
@dontwalkrun
But he's going to, he, he could potentially sign those things.
tim pool
He will.
@dontwalkrun
He says he won't end fracking, but he already said he would.
tim pool
He's a Picasso of policy.
It makes sense.
But you've got these Green New Deal people.
I love one of the greatest things.
Remember when Greta Thunberg called for the mass execution of 20 million people in Europe and America?
Okay, she didn't say it like that.
@dontwalkrun
Right.
tim pool
She just said, terminate all fossil fuels now, which would be the death of, you know, like 20 million people or so.
They don't get it.
It's like they live in a cartoon world where it's like, they're simply like, if we're using too many fossil fuels, just stop using them.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
And then all of a sudden people freeze to death and people starve.
Like they don't realize the demand for this stuff isn't because someone's spinning around in donuts in their Lambo, like just burning off You know, hundreds of gallons of petroleum.
It's because there's a demand for food production and heating people's homes.
ian crossland
Dude, I was just looking around the room at how much plastic we have in here.
There's so much plastic.
@dontwalkrun
Oh yeah, if you're gonna, you can't stop drilling.
You can't stop oil because you need, you need to make plastics.
tim pool
Dude, people don't realize how revolutionary plastics were.
They do not understand.
@dontwalkrun
They don't understand.
They think that, like, your phone's made, like your phone case is made of plastic.
Everything, the cameras, everything is.
ian crossland
These little mic knobs.
tim pool
No, but for real, the computer monitor.
@dontwalkrun
Everything is freaking plastic.
tim pool
People don't realize, before this, I was like, metal.
Wood.
Yeah, metal and wood.
ian crossland
Plastic would catch on fire.
Wood was all flammable.
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously.
tim pool
People don't understand the energy return we get from petroleum.
And I think it's fair to say that we have become addicted to it.
Our growth is so exponential under this.
So there's solutions.
Nuclear energy, for instance.
Can't have that, though.
They don't like that.
That's bad.
lydia smith
Not in my backyard.
tim pool
Yeah, not in my backyard.
So when they go Green New Deal, And they're like, we're gonna have free college, for some reason it's a part of the Green New Deal.
When we have equity reparations or whatever, for some reason it's a part of the Green New Deal.
And universal healthcare and guaranteed jobs, but banning all fossil fuels.
Okay, where does the energy come from for any of these things?
And I don't mean money, I mean the literal units of energy.
The calorie.
The actual unit.
So, so I guess what they're saying is they'll put everybody in work camps.
ian crossland
You need like wave power or geothermal or solar.
tim pool
No, no, no, human labor.
ian crossland
Like piezoelectric, human heat.
@dontwalkrun
No, no, like people pushing a wheel around.
tim pool
Exactly.
I'm not kidding.
ian crossland
One of the things with plastic, if you look at Boyan Slat, he's out in the Pacific recovering the Pacific gyre, the great Pacific garbage patch.
He's got like building these long strands of thread that can like capture plastic and then they're bringing it back to shore.
And it's basically the ocean.
tim pool
And they're recycling it.
ian crossland
Yeah, the ocean current.
And you can take mushrooms, there's different, like Pestalopsis microspora, I think is one type of mushroom that'll break down plastic into sugar.
And then you can use, you can eat that sugar, or you can alloy that sugar with things like graphene to create like building materials.
When we were in South America, we were going to make 3D printing filament with it and then 3D print like tubes and joints and make giant domed housing with the recovered plastic.
Totally feasible.
You just have to retrofit our economy.
tim pool
I just think the Green New Deal is, you know, it's like some seventh graders were like, the teacher said, I want you for your school project to talk about climate change and why it's bad.
For my school project, I call it the Green New Deal.
Like the New Deal, it would give everyone a job.
Everyone would have free health because then no one would ever be sick.
It's like, uh-huh.
Tell me more.
And then people won't be able to drive cars because cars are really bad.
And then there won't be climate change because nobody's driving cars.
lydia smith
Will they get an F?
tim pool
Oh, right.
No, there's seven.
They get an A+.
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Those are some very complicated adult ideas that are very wrong, but A-plus for effort.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, good job.
Well, I love that AOC totally screwed up the whole Green New Deal launch.
I love it.
She's so...
tim pool
Party cows!
@dontwalkrun
So inept.
First of all, she didn't write that.
Marky didn't write that.
It was like the Sunshine Movement, and it was all these lobbyists who basically made that bill.
tim pool
It was a seven-year-old who was second grade.
@dontwalkrun
Right.
But the actual legislation, they worked really hard on that.
But that FAQ, they put out an FAQ that was basically, when you've heard all the things like, oh, they want to get rid of airplanes, and cow farts, and all these things, which they're not in the legislation.
Getting rid of airplanes is not part of that.
tim pool
You think I'm joking about the seven-year-old thing?
I am not.
Okay, I'm half kidding.
@dontwalkrun
But think about when they're like- AOC is a seven-year-old.
tim pool
When they're like, we're gonna, you know, we have to replace planes with trains and get rid of farting cows.
It's like, that's like a little kid.
unidentified
Unicorns.
tim pool
Not riding, like not knowing what's really going on.
@dontwalkrun
Or like not knowing how trains work.
unidentified
Right.
@dontwalkrun
And not knowing that trains can't go to Hawaii.
tim pool
Or just like, to Europe?
You know, we have like very important reasons to be traveling back and forth between like New York and London, for instance.
@dontwalkrun
I don't know if I want an electric plane.
tim pool
If they created a tube that could bring you in a train under the ocean from New York to London, man, that'd be amazing.
@dontwalkrun
That'd be a really cool view.
tim pool
It'd be scary.
But, you know, if you're in a tube in the sky that can fail, make a good tube underwater.
Of course.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, but at least I won't drown.
At least, you know, if I'm in the air in a plane... You're, like, falling to your death screaming?
Well, then we can land in the water.
tim pool
That's true, and you can live.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, thank you, Sully.
tim pool
The cost of building a tube to carry a train underwater is probably, like, ridiculous versus a plane flying through open air.
And the other thing they don't realize too is that we can make like energy efficient and carbon neutral air conveyance, I suppose.
I think it's funny.
Well, we can get towards it.
I think technological advancement and reducing the emissions from airplanes has been something that many of these companies have been working on.
@dontwalkrun
Sure.
They want cheaper, they want... But we're not going to do it by 2050.
I think that these things, the free market will eventually take care of it.
But there's, you can't make a deadline for these things.
Look at what happened with the electric cars.
Remember the movie, like what, you know, the death of the electric car or what happened to the electric car.
ian crossland
Who killed the electric car.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, thank you.
And then you're like, well, now electric cars are everywhere.
So we needed that technology.
It's like when AOC and Bernie goes, ExxonMobil knew.
They knew about the climate change.
That's AOC's impression, by the way.
tim pool
AOC's impersonation of Bernie.
@dontwalkrun
They knew!
So they knew.
And they need to be held liable.
They knew back in the 70s.
Like, OK, fine.
So they knew about climate change in the 70s.
So were they just supposed to stop making oil?
tim pool
Yes.
@dontwalkrun
Like, were they... that's it?
We were supposed to... In the Cold War.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The height of the Cold War.
@dontwalkrun
And, you know, what happens to our, our trucking, you know, like getting, uh, you know, stuff, products from farms, fruits and vegetables and, and meat.
Like, what are we supposed to do?
Are we just, like, horses again?
unidentified
And just, you know, and cut... No, no.
tim pool
And I love that we're supposed to... It's animal abuse.
@dontwalkrun
I love that we're supposed to... Okay.
That's fair.
lydia smith
We got nothing.
Make animals do labor.
@dontwalkrun
But then we're supposed to cut down all the wood to heat our homes, which that's even worse, right?
tim pool
That's why I said Greta Thunberg called for 20 million people to die.
ian crossland
I think Adam had some scientists on this show, on Atomcast IRL, and they were talking about giant solar arrays that they're going to have above cities, and they might be geostationary, and then they beam power down to the cities.
This is like top-level science.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's got to be, what, 75 years?
5, 10 years.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, 5, 10 years.
tim pool
Yeah, we got this.
lydia smith
No big deal.
Yeah.
ian crossland
I'm sure.
But that might be a nice viable solution or transition.
@dontwalkrun
Why don't we just make that dome that was in the Simpsons movie and put solar panels all over that?
Can't we just do that?
tim pool
Dude, a Dyson sphere!
Duh!
ian crossland
Let's just start with a Dyson sphere and we'll move on.
tim pool
Let's encase the entire sun in a massive solar panel array that's bigger than the sun itself
to harness the fusion energy.
@dontwalkrun
I love this.
I love bouncing these ideas off.
unidentified
No, no, stop, stop, stop, stop.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
If I wrote up the Dyson Sphere plan and I called it like the Dyson New Deal, that would
be as feasible as what they're proposing with the Green New Deal.
@dontwalkrun
You mean we're not gonna be able to convert, like, four million houses?
lydia smith
All these buildings.
@dontwalkrun
And buildings into, um... Like, if you actually look and see what is involved to make these buildings... Retrofitting every building.
Yeah, and you're like, okay, well, where are we gonna get the workers?
Oh, we're just gonna train them.
unidentified
We're just going to train everybody.
@dontwalkrun
Lydia, do you want to work in construction?
Do you want to work in retrofitting?
tim pool
No way, dude.
unidentified
Why?
lydia smith
I'm a girl, I don't know.
@dontwalkrun
No, no, that's not an excuse.
You need to do it.
lydia smith
No, I don't want to.
@dontwalkrun
It's your government job now.
lydia smith
No, I don't want to.
tim pool
Mandated.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, no way.
tim pool
This reminds me of that movie, I think it's called Deep Impact.
Where they send a bunch of miners in a drill to an asteroid and there was like this famous Like a bit of trivia from the movie where apparently Ben Affleck asked the director.
Well, that's Armageddon Armageddon Yeah, wouldn't it be easier to train a bunch of astronauts to use a drill than to train a bunch of drillers to become astronauts?
And they're like shut up.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah Michael Bay the director is asleep.
tim pool
Yes.
@dontwalkrun
Shut up.
I Hey, Ben Affleck has a point though.
And just as an aside, he is my favorite Batman so far.
tim pool
I thought he was a good Batman.
ian crossland
I thought he was a great... Did you guys like Michael Keaton?
tim pool
Oh yeah.
ian crossland
I might be biased because it was the first one I saw when I was a kid.
Did you see the original?
@dontwalkrun
I've seen all of them.
tim pool
I liked Michael Keaton, but it's because it was a more comic book version.
ian crossland
Yeah, in looking back it was.
@dontwalkrun
All I want is a Batman to be a detective first and foremost.
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Which Christian Bale was not.
He was an idiot.
And Michael Keaton was not really a detective.
He was kind of a scientist with those crazy test tubes and stuff.
ian crossland
He was like a socialite.
@dontwalkrun
But in this one, like in the Ben Affleck one, which was not a good movie, mind you, I do like that he was killing people with a car.
That's awesome.
I'm not the traditional, like, oh, Berman doesn't kill people.
No, no, no, he does.
He kills bad guys.
OK, sorry.
But he's a detective in that movie because he finds out where the kryptonite is.
He's actually doing detective work.
And I love that.
I'm just like, oh, finally, he's a detective.
And he was also doing science-y stuff.
And he's a scientist.
And with Christian Bale, Just beat Morgan Freeman's like, okay, well, we isolated the compound.
It's like, um, am I supposed to be understanding any of that?
Like, yeah, you're a fucking scientist.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Somehow we ended up talking about Batman, I guess.
@dontwalkrun
What were we talking about?
ian crossland
Technology?
lydia smith
I don't know, the Green New Deal.
@dontwalkrun
The Green New Deal being completely... Oh, you were talking about Armageddon.
I'm sorry.
ian crossland
Ben Affleck, great movie.
@dontwalkrun
Ben Affleck, yes.
But we got to that because... And I did decide... I'm very sorry, folks.
ian crossland
You can't... Aerosmith.
@dontwalkrun
Anybody who knows me knows that I'm a... I hate all these... There's never been a perfect Batman movie.
tim pool
George Clooney.
ian crossland
Did you guys see Mallrats?
@dontwalkrun
I like, I, you know, I, as a, as a young man, I really enjoyed Mallrats.
ian crossland
Have you seen Mallrats?
tim pool
Of course.
ian crossland
Dude, what a great movie.
tim pool
Yeah, back then, I mean, it's very simple.
@dontwalkrun
It's not, it's not, it doesn't date well.
tim pool
Jason Lee's great.
ian crossland
Kevin Smith.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, Jason, who did, did you want to be Jason Lee after seeing that movie?
ian crossland
I love him, I used to wait tables on him in LA.
He's such a cool guy.
@dontwalkrun
He, I wanted to be Jason Lee in Mallrats.
tim pool
Jason Lee was the first pro skater to do a 360 flip in a line for a pro skater segment, part, we call them parts.
So, so it was really interesting when like he's this famous celebrity and like all the skaters are like, wow, Wow, Jason Lee, like, you know, he's a skateboarder.
He co-founded Stereo Skateboards, I guess.
Then all of a sudden he's like this movie star.
How crazy is that?
How about we read Super Chats?
unidentified
Yes!
We're a little over.
ian crossland
I want to go deeper into the oil thing, but I guess we just don't, I don't know enough about it.
tim pool
All right, we're gonna read some Super Chats.
Tom Shanley says, you rock!
And there's a LeGuitar emoji.
Keep up the great work.
Telling the truth is a big deal.
Love your commentary, sidekicks, and guests.
Oh, and an Antifa is an idea, right?
Yes!
Ian Hall says, questions for Andrew and General T. Bowl salt the army.
Did Carole Baskin kill Joe Exotic?
And if so, did Epstein really kill himself?
And if so, did Biden really not wear a wire?
And it's not the asteroid.
If it's not the asteroid, will it be the aliens?
Cue dude from Ancient Aliens with the hair.
@dontwalkrun
Wow.
tim pool
I don't know anything about any of that stuff.
@dontwalkrun
No, first of all, I've never actually seen Tiger King.
I have not.
I'm sorry.
We tried.
I didn't even try.
I'm busy, man.
I'm a one man.
Show!
I'm a one-man band, you know?
I don't have a lot of time to watch everything.
tim pool
I thought it was boring.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
lydia smith
It was weird.
tim pool
Like, I started watching the first episode and I was like, why do I care about this?
Like, did people just pretend to like it because someone said so?
@dontwalkrun
I think because it was just kind of the timing, you know, it was right near the beginning of the lockdowns and everything and people were just like, wow, this is different.
Yes.
lydia smith
Distraction.
@dontwalkrun
And I think I was watching Red Letter Media and they were talking about like, yeah, I couldn't deal with it.
ian crossland
Regarding the Asteroid, Asteroid 2020, this is a shirt that you sell.
@dontwalkrun
Yes.
ian crossland
And where can people buy that shirt?
@dontwalkrun
At my Teespring store.
It's a teespring.com slash store slash don't walk run.
I have a lot of different types of material, you know, like the really nice soft one, like the really burly... No, I'm kidding.
No, a lot of cool stuff.
So yeah, if you don't like cats, which is my logo for some reason, you know, you can buy the asteroid shirts.
Oh, I have another one.
I have the, the, um, the, the Trump thing, you know, uh, man, woman, camera, TV.
I have that on a shirt.
I have that on a shirt too.
And, um, and anyway, but yeah, so the, the asteroid, I really.
Can we all agree that an asteroid would be great right now?
lydia smith
Yeah, I'm ready.
Let's go.
tim pool
Of the right size to where it doesn't wipe out all of humanity, but it creates a Mad Max-style dystopian nightmare.
ian crossland
Maybe just a scare.
Maybe a really terrifying scare.
That's what we need.
tim pool
Where you can see this 50-mile-wide just graze the atmosphere, and we're like... And everyone thinks we're gonna die.
And it pulls the moon, and then the moon gets flung off, and we're like...
@dontwalkrun
I love it.
tim pool
The waves, like tidal waves.
@dontwalkrun
I love it.
I'm crossing my fingers.
tim pool
Let's read some more of these.
lydia smith
I just want it to be quick.
tim pool
Ian Hall says, actual science.
Lower CO2 emissions is seeing an increase in global temperature due to low albido in the atmosphere, aka not enough crap in the air to reflect the sun's rays, but CO2 is the issue.
I don't know anything about any of that stuff.
@dontwalkrun
And I keep reading that CO2 is good because it'll make the trees grow more, but that's the thing.
It's like, well, the CO2 is good.
You know, global warming's fine, but maybe we just need more trees and less pavement.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't know.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, I'm an expert.
ian crossland
You know, like seed bombing, where you retrofit bomber planes with seeds and then just plant like a billion trees a day.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
That's what the Trump administration's doing.
They're planting a billion trees.
Not with the planes.
unidentified
No, OK.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, not with planes.
lydia smith
That'd be cool.
@dontwalkrun
No, that's not as fun.
lydia smith
I know.
tim pool
Tasty Waffle says, did they ever say what happened in the explosion in Belarus?
Who was responsible or was it a legit accident?
It was out of the news cycle real quick.
@dontwalkrun
It was.
tim pool
Yeah, what was this?
@dontwalkrun
I don't know what happened after that.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't think they came up with an answer.
@dontwalkrun
Wow.
lydia smith
It was weird.
@dontwalkrun
Well, you know, with these crazy European countries, you never know.
They like to lock everything down quick.
tim pool
We got a super chat for you, Andrew.
GeeksOasis says, Hey Andrew, love your content, man.
I shared your Charlottesville hoax video several times in the past since it's the most annoying lie the left pushes.
I was fuming during the debates when Trump gave them another opening, shaking my head.
Yup, me too.
@dontwalkrun
Well, yeah, look, nobody was happy with that debate.
But the fact that Chris Wallace Who asked the same question, he said, will you denounce
white supremacists?
And the KKK, this is back in 2016.
tim pool
Yep.
@dontwalkrun
During the Republican, and he said it.
And it's just like, okay, so do we need to say it again and again and again?
I guess we do.
tim pool
Why don't they ask Biden?
He's never done it, has he?
@dontwalkrun
No.
tim pool
Has Biden come out and said explicitly that he condemns white supremacy?
lydia smith
I don't think he does.
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Richard Spencer endorsed him.
That's true.
That's true.
Why isn't anybody calling him out on that?
tim pool
It's because conservatives are only playing the left's rules.
Could you imagine playing Monopoly with someone who keeps changing the rules and you're like, I guess I'll keep playing.
ian crossland
That would be cheating.
lydia smith
Yes!
tim pool
So they keep screaming in Trump's face they've not asked Biden once after he received an endorsement from the most prominent white nationalist probably in the world.
@dontwalkrun
But thanks for that super chat and yes I feel your pain.
tim pool
All right Rambo Joe says just turned 19 a couple months ago graduated from college back in May.
I'm going to be a first-time voter and wanted to thank you for providing a place for dumb kids like me to get the truth when the mainstream is full of lies.
Keep it up.
I will do so!
And of course, Andrew, as his show as well, he helps cut through the vines of fake news with that machete.
@dontwalkrun
Thank you.
I try.
So, as a 19-year-old and you're voting for Biden for the first time, congratulations.
And I wish you all the best success.
Don't do it.
unidentified
Don't vote for him.
@dontwalkrun
I'm kidding.
tim pool
Maria Whitmer said, gonna use you for shameless girlfriend points and ask for a shout out to my BF, Steven, who introduced me to your vids.
We love the podcast and your channel.
lydia smith
Cool.
tim pool
Shout out to your BF, Steven.
lydia smith
Thanks, man.
@dontwalkrun
Thank you, boyfriend, Steven.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Kaleem Mims says, when Batman was first created, the original creator said that Batman is supposed to kill criminals, otherwise he would fail as a hero.
He would swing from roofs and break criminals' necks when criminals poke their heads out of windows.
Is that real?
That's a brutal way to do it, man.
@dontwalkrun
First of all, I'm glad we talked about Batman.
It's very important to who I am as a person.
But yeah, there's actually, there's one comic I remember where these people are in an experiment and they're grown to be like gigantic monsters.
And Batman gets in a plane and shoots at them.
And not with rubber bullets, mind you.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
lydia smith
Very cool.
tim pool
When they did the animated series, I think, I don't know if that's when it started, because it was a kids show?
@dontwalkrun
No, it was before that, probably because of the comic book code.
tim pool
Oh, Heroes Don't Kill Villains?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, you know, they got to tone things down.
tim pool
Dude, you know what I really love about that, though?
How that influenced things like the Justice Lords.
You're familiar with that saga?
The alternate reality where Joker... Long story, Sharks, I haven't actually... I haven't read the comics for sure, but it's in Injustice 2, where basically Joker drugs Superman, detonates a nuke or something, kills Lois Lane, and then Superman blames Batman because Batman would not stop the Joker.
He just kept locking him up, and Joker kept getting out.
Then finally, Superman, like, rips the heart of Joker out, and Joker is laughing as it happens because he's defeated Superman.
He broke him.
And then Superman becomes a tyrannical dictator who thinks only he can stop.
And then he goes nuts, starts executing everybody.
It's cool how policies around, like, obscenity and, like, family-friendly behavior influenced the political narrative, in a sense, you know?
Batman won't kill the Joker, then the Joker does these atrocities, you know?
@dontwalkrun
There's a great Dunkey video, video game Dunkey video, about injustice, which I suggest you check out.
So, and it'll clearly explain exactly what Tim's talking about.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's see.
Josh Baker says, Tim, you wonder why YouTube still allows your channel and content?
You are the fifth pillar.
Glenn Beck, the left's election night war game.
TS at 445.
On a lighter note, thanks for being here.
I don't know why YouTube allows me to keep doing what I'm doing.
It's kind of weird.
ian crossland
Money, money, money, money, baby.
tim pool
No, but they ban so many people so fast.
@dontwalkrun
But like, for me, I'm just, you know... You're not edgy.
Yeah.
People might not agree with what you say, but you're not a liar.
And you're not... You're not edgy.
You're not a provocateur.
And that's why I think that my channel is also in the safe zone for now.
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
Because I'm not edgy.
tim pool
But they're saying that you can't question the legitimacy of the election, you know, after November 3rd or whatever, as if I'm going to ignore lawsuits and discrepancies.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I think as long as you present it in a in a not not like a conspiracy.
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
You know, like, oh, well, it's this.
Oh, it's Biden's legal team.
I don't know.
I think as long as you State your sources and you do it legitimately.
I don't think that either one of us will have an issue.
I think there's a lot of other YouTubers that are going to be screwed over.
tim pool
Definitely.
There's a lot of people who have already been nuked because they've said negative things about masks.
You make one video refuting the orthodoxy on mask wearing, you're gone.
Just gone.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
I've seen channels that have hundreds of thousands of subs, no warning, no strikes, just deleted overnight.
And people are like, what?
Yeah, that's the way it works, man.
Let's see.
Mason Perry says, in regards to concentration camps and cages, despite Obama's rhetoric, whether you attribute it to legal injunctions, new transparency, or Trump's character, illegal immigrants have been treated better by Trump than Obama.
Would you agree with that?
@dontwalkrun
I would agree with that.
I would agree with that a billion percent.
I mean, first of all, Melania was trying to help help these kids.
So, yeah, you know, right away.
I don't I don't seem to recall Michelle Obama doing the same thing.
I don't you know, I don't see her going out of her way.
But no, with with Trump, at least he he made like a legitimate policy.
And they got B-dubs!
They got B-dubs in Mexico!
Right. Where, you know, if you're coming from Honduras or Guatemala, you're passing through Mexico.
So already you're in a safe haven. Right?
tim pool
So... And they got B-dubs! They got B-dubs in Mexico!
Buffalo Wild Wings!
Oh yeah! B-W-3s?
I bring that up for one reason.
lydia smith
Yeah, there actually is a reason.
tim pool
I have a reason for this.
@dontwalkrun
Okay.
tim pool
There was an interview done, published by Vox.com, V-O-X, the progressive site, where they asked one of the migrants coming in the caravan why they were coming to America, and they said, I miss Buffalo Wild Wings.
@dontwalkrun
Okay.
unidentified
That's funny.
tim pool
They legitimately said that.
So I looked it up.
I went to Mexico City last year.
I went to Buffalo Wild Wings.
It was awesome.
It was really nice, comfortable, cost-effective, and I got, you know, boneless saucy nugs.
We don't call them wings anymore.
You've seen that, right?
The guy's complaint to the city council about boneless wings.
Saucy nugs.
lydia smith
Hero.
tim pool
But in all seriousness, When they interviewed a lot of these migrants that were
coming, a lot of them said, like, I miss these things that Mexico does have.
And I think it's part of racism that is inherently in the left, where they think Mexico is like
a war zone desert.
An asshole.
Go, Mexico City's amazing.
It's like, it's a city.
There's like nice restaurants.
It's like a normal place, you know?
But they think these people coming from Honduras, going through Mexico, are walking through the desert.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, that they're going from one war zone into another war zone.
And I'm not saying that Mexico is like the safest country in the world, which it is not, but it's not like the entire country is going to hurt somebody coming from Guatemala.
Like, there's still opportunities there.
And if they apply for asylum there, They're fine.
lydia smith
It's considered a safe country.
@dontwalkrun
But the fact that Trump was able to negotiate that deal with all those countries and say
this is how it's going to be, if you want to try and come to the United States, you
have to do this first.
And you have to apply properly.
It's so weird that that makes... Instead of coming over the border illegally, and then we throw you in a cage.
tim pool
Isn't it weird that that just makes sense?
And the left called it racist and said it was wrong?
@dontwalkrun
It makes logical sense.
Because you can't just say... I mean, what's worse?
Doing that?
Doing the asylum policy?
Or, well, we have this many people in a detention center.
until they get their court date, which could be forever.
tim pool
No, don't you understand?
What they want to happen is they want, you know, little kids with their dads wandering
through the desert, falling in ditches and then losing their lives.
When what these people don't realize is that the reason these people are in detention centers
is because they're wandering through miles of open desert, and many of them are dying and getting sick.
And then they blame the border patrol when they rescue someone who is sick, bring them to a facility, and then they give them medical treatment, but the person still dies.
They say, that's the fault of CBP.
Yeah, no, it's not.
Remember that video?
There was a photo of a little girl dead in a ditch.
Did you see that?
It's horrifying.
It's a disgusting and horrifying story.
@dontwalkrun
It's tragic.
tim pool
And if they stopped these individuals and put them in a truck and brought them to a facility and gave them medical attention and they still died, they would get blamed for it as well.
They're offering us no solutions at all.
Trump says, okay, do we do nothing?
No, because now they're dying in the desert.
Okay, do we pick them up and then bring them to a facility?
No, there's too many people in the facility.
Well, they keep coming here.
How about we have them stay in Mexico because they're coming through Mexico and it's safe there.
No, that's racist.
They should come here.
If literally every- Like, imagine handing an array of Minilla folders.
Here are your options, sir.
One through five.
No!
They're all racist and throwing them all off the table.
What are we supposed to do?
One of them, if we can't do any of it, you can't even negotiate.
@dontwalkrun
But it's funny how when the Obama administration had some options, that mostly everybody was fine with it.
The media wasn't going crazy about it.
You know, there were some activists, you know, the deporter-in-chief, right?
But most of all, everybody was pretty okay with it.
When Trump comes in, it's like, oh wow, he just really hates us foreigners, you know?
tim pool
Obama was like, my fellow Americans.
We're going to build a migrant detention center and put kids in it, take them away from their parents.
2012, four more years!
Then it's like 2016, Trump wins, and then as soon as Trump's foot crosses the threshold of the White House, CONCENTRATION CAMPS!
And Trump's like, what, what?
And then Melania's like, we have to do something about this.
And then no matter what she says, she's awful.
And then Trump was like, I am gonna enact a policy to end child separation.
Well, it's your fault!
And they post a bunch of pictures from the Obama administration.
That's what happened!
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
Can I just say I like your Trump impression?
tim pool
Oh yeah?
@dontwalkrun
You've been doing it, I like it.
I am sold on it.
tim pool
The hand thing, you gotta do the hand thing.
@dontwalkrun
You have to do the hand thing.
tim pool
Have you seen the accordion video?
@dontwalkrun
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Someone made a video, and it's a bunch of clips of Trump, and they put an accordion in between his hands, so when he's talking it's like... And it's so well done, too.
@dontwalkrun
It's not just from the side, but there's the one where he's saying, we have pizzas and we have burgers, and he's doing it from the side, and it still looks good.
Whoever made that, that's not easy to do, so props to you.
unidentified
Yes.
@dontwalkrun
Pulitzer!
Thank you, Lydia.
tim pool
We got another one from Shotty Vice where he says, it's really weird that regular people have to be quiet about voting for Trump.
Like, why can't we just go back to bickering then shaking hands and going back to drinking beer together?
Well, if you're a moderate, liberal, politically homeless, or, you know, conservative, we're all doing that.
You know, like a conservative can sit down with a liberal and, you know, crack a beer and have a conversation and then really disagree.
But the left is not doing that.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'll tell you.
Who was that that asked that question?
tim pool
Shadi Viceroy.
ian crossland
Shadi, I'll tell you why.
Because I'm one of those guys.
And a lot of my friends from the past are just on edge and I don't want to lose friends.
That's ultimately why it's tough.
tim pool
That's the problem.
ian crossland
I'm not going to anger my friends by rubbing it in their face, but I'm definitely going to vote for Donald Trump.
I have no choice at this point.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
I mean, I'm not voting for Joe Biden.
And last time I voted for Jill Stein and it felt like I just wasted my vote.
@dontwalkrun
No, no, you can't.
No Joe Jorgensen?
ian crossland
No, I don't even know who that is.
tim pool
I gotta make sure this is clear.
Never feel like you're wasting your vote ever for any reason.
ian crossland
But it did feel like a waste of a vote.
@dontwalkrun
No, you can't.
First of all.
ian crossland
It was just a lot of time commitment.
There was no point.
She had no chance of winning California.
tim pool
It doesn't matter.
Why do I even bother?
Because you stand up for what you believe in.
@dontwalkrun
Right.
tim pool
And if everyone else did, she could potentially win.
Wasting your vote is when you vote for someone you don't like because you're scared of someone else.
ian crossland
That's what it is.
I don't like Donald Trump but I'm going to vote for him because I like his policies.
tim pool
No, that's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is most people are like, I hate Donald Trump so I'm going to vote for that other guy I don't like.
ian crossland
I know what you mean.
tim pool
Which is the Biden guy.
I'm voting for Trump especially because of these peace deals.
I'm gonna give him a vote because those peace deals, man, that's legit stuff.
ian crossland
And he coined the phrase fake news.
There's just all sorts of goods with this guy.
tim pool
I want him to get our troops out of the Middle East, particularly, you know, Afghanistan and Iraq, or at least down to levels where we're in more of an advisory and specialist role.
ian crossland
With Russia, we need that more than ever.
With the Chinese CCP, we need to be allied with Russia.
@dontwalkrun
Can I make a quick plea to Republican voters?
If you're in a blue state and you think, you know, I would vote, but Trump's not going to win California.
Come on.
Vote anyway.
All we've heard for the last four years is Hillary won the popular vote, Hillary won by 3 million votes, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.
Do you want that to happen with Joe Biden?
He might win California.
And I'm talking to you right now.
He might win California, but do you want to hear, oh, Joe Biden won the popular vote?
No, you don't.
Go out and vote.
Just vote.
Make sure you're registered and vote.
tim pool
Did you know that if every single Republican in AOC's district voted, she would lose?
@dontwalkrun
I don't know the makeup necessarily because her A lot of her district in Queens is very... It's heavy immigrant.
tim pool
It's like 75-78%.
But in terms of... Oh, as far as turnout.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, I see.
tim pool
Right, so the amount of votes she actually got was like 178, I think.
@dontwalkrun
But that was for the primary.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
The primary was like 14,000 in a district of 750,000.
Right.
And in the general, when people went and just voted for the D, she ended up getting like a hundred and something thousand.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, like 100,000.
tim pool
If every single Republican turned out, she would lose.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Because what people don't realize is that even though it's D plus 28 in her district, meaning it's Democrat, they all aren't voting.
The problem is neither are Republicans.
If every single Republican went out and voted, she'd lose.
ian crossland
It's interesting because every vote is kind of like a grain of sand and it can feel so insignificant.
But when you have power like the internet video, the ability to rally and connect and decide as a group, you can create so much momentum and force.
@dontwalkrun
And you know, look, I encourage everybody to vote.
It's important.
It's your right.
You don't get to do that in every country.
And the fact that voter turnout is so low in just about every election, and even local elections, you really need... My state senator is a Democratic Socialist, and I couldn't do anything about it.
tim pool
Well, I hope you enjoy it.
It's only gonna get worse from here.
lydia smith
Thanks, Tim.
tim pool
Unless every single Republican gets out and vote.
And not just that, even the moderates.
I was actually... I thought Michelle Cruz O'Cabrera could have won.
She... But she didn't.
@dontwalkrun
Had potential.
unidentified
Right.
@dontwalkrun
She had potential.
But instead she just kept repeating the same dumb line over again.
AOC!
Is M-I-A.
And even to the point where where she said so many times the AOC started mocking her.
So it's she she was just a waste of time.
tim pool
That's unfortunate.
It's unfortunate.
@dontwalkrun
It's unfortunate because she seemed like a smart woman, but she was not.
tim pool
We got too many trash politicians.
I don't care whether we're left, right, up, down, whatever, man.
@dontwalkrun
Out of all the choices as far as the Democrats go, who do you think should have been the nominee?
tim pool
Tulsi Gabbard.
In the primaries?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
tim pool
She's the only one who made an effort to reach out to conservatives, to try and bridge that divide and have a real conversation.
Some of her policies were very progressive.
On gun control, she opposes nuclear energy.
I think that's wrong.
But she was trying really hard.
And I think there's two really important things for a president.
Military service.
Tulsi is a major in the National Guard.
That's tremendous.
And trying to be a leader for the whole country.
The rest, everyone else was just like, I mean, come on.
Name one of the other primary candidates.
ian crossland
Andrew Yang.
tim pool
Andrew Yang.
Smart guy, doesn't have the X-factor, the charisma to be a commander-in-chief.
ian crossland
Yeah, you know in England, they would have like two leaders.
They'd have the prime minister and then the, I don't know.
tim pool
But that's a parliamentary system, it's very different.
ian crossland
Yeah, so like Winston Churchill would be like the businessman, while someone else would be like the military guy.
tim pool
Pete Buttigieg was vanilla.
Warren Warren is a duplicitous Say anything. I kind of put her I don't really like her.
@dontwalkrun
She she stole so much of Bernie's Oh, yeah, then cut it cut it cut his base in half. Bernie
tim pool
is a hypocrite You know, he stopped saying millionaires once it became a
unidentified
millionaire. He used to go millionaires and billionaires in this country
tim pool
He's rhetorical.
And then he looked at his tax return.
I mean, just the billionaires.
ian crossland
He relied on rhetoric too much.
Like, he'd keep repeating phrases.
You got to get out of that, I think, if you're going to run for office.
@dontwalkrun
But, you know, Joe Biden does that.
Like, anytime he talks, I know exactly what that guy's going to say.
And it's always the same thing over and over.
Close your eyes.
Remember how you felt when they came out of fields and you're like, and, and it's like, oh, and then, and then he always, he always has, he always ends with the crescendo.
He always tries to, where he's like, you know, this is America.
We, we can do, we, we've never been able to not do anything.
If we do it together, and God bless you and protect our troops.
tim pool
What do you think about Tulsa?
You didn't like her?
@dontwalkrun
I didn't want her to be president.
unidentified
Why not?
@dontwalkrun
She's a radical.
She had a Green New Deal before AOC.
tim pool
Yeah, she's very progressive.
But people don't realize that the president doesn't make policy.
All Trump can do is recommend 230 reform.
He can't do these things.
@dontwalkrun
Well, he can suggest.
I mean, look, we got the tax plan in, we got criminal justice reform.
That wasn't from Congress.
That was That was his administration trying to push that through.
And with Tulsi, everybody loves Tulsi and her foreign policy.
tim pool
That's kind of it for me.
@dontwalkrun
Ending endless wars.
Absolutely.
But as far as environmental stuff, as far as... She's radical.
Look, I like Tulsi a lot.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
@dontwalkrun
And I respect her a lot.
And out of all the Democrats, she is the least triggered when it comes to Trump.
tim pool
She should have been the nominee.
Joe Biden's gonna ban fossil fuels.
He's gonna do all these stupid, ridiculous things with all these far leftists.
@dontwalkrun
Well, the media would not give her a shake.
Of course.
unidentified
They don't even have a woman of color on stage.
tim pool
I remember when she nuked Kamala.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
ian crossland
Yeah, she's a beast.
unidentified
She is.
@dontwalkrun
She was a hero.
Because if you remember Biden, he was the first to talk.
He was the first to try and attack Kamala and he was he was talking about like, uh, look it up on Google, you know a thousand people like a thousand cases like he and you're like Oh Joe you he doesn't know what he was talking about.
He didn't even understand it I think somebody just kind of wrote that thing for him But then Tulsi comes in and just totally annihilated because she knew exactly what she needed to say and and at the time I was like She's gonna be Biden's vice president.
You know what Tulsi was?
That's what I thought.
tim pool
They hated her too much.
@dontwalkrun
Well, I thought that maybe if she was embraced by a bigger candidate like Bernie or Biden, that people would come to realize that they were wrong about her as far as the whole Bashar al-Assad stuff.
tim pool
You know what's really amazing about Tulsi Gabbard's story arc?
is that she was like a golden child of the DNC until she endorsed Bernie Sanders instead of Hillary.
And then look how easily the establishment turned her into a villain.
@dontwalkrun
Oh yeah.
tim pool
It was amazing.
She was this up-and-coming star in the Democratic Party.
You slight Hillary and the media destroyed her.
And then the only fair shake she could get?
Tucker Carlson, conservatives, Really giving her a chance to speak and disagreeing, but having that conversation.
But I do think she tried to at least stop the split.
@dontwalkrun
Well she was, as a member of the DNC, she goes, well there were like 20 plus debates between Hillary and Obama.
And now there's six?
Yeah.
And that's a fair thing to question.
You're like, why are there only six debates?
With more candidates too, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
@dontwalkrun
By a factor of four, you know, like we're being, we're doing, it's less debates.
And so why are we doing this?
I need to question this.
Nope.
They're like, no, no, no, you need to shut up and, and just, and they didn't even invite her.
They didn't even invite her to, um, like, oh, The DNC just totally... They're dumb.
tim pool
It's the establishment, dude.
It's a big club and you ain't in it.
ian crossland
It's a war party.
It goes bigger than politics.
tim pool
And that's why the Never Trumpers ran with their tail between their legs, like, help us establishment Democrats!
We're just like you!
We want to blow up kids in foreign countries!
And they were like, come, come.
@dontwalkrun
But this is why Bernie should not have run as a Democrat this time.
ian crossland
I know.
@dontwalkrun
No, not at all.
Because he goes, I have a grassroots movement.
ian crossland
You know what he should have done?
Run as Democrat and at the last minute just said, I'm independent now.
And he would have all the exposure from the Democratic primary, but then he
would have just taken those votes with him.
@dontwalkrun
That's why he ran as a Democrat.
tim pool
It would have just split the Democrats though.
@dontwalkrun
No, no, not at all.
I think if he would have run as an independent, he's like, look, I am the
I was screwed over by the DNC.
Just run with that.
Whether you believe it or not.
I'm running as an independent because I am an independent because I'm doing this and this and this.
And everybody would have forgotten about people to judge.
Andrew Yang, all those people.
He would have maybe brought in Tulsi as his running mate.
But no, you know, like let the Democrats just totally kill themselves over these terrible debates because none of them were any, they weren't substantive at all.
tim pool
I can't, I can't, I can't imagine Biden winning.
I see all the polls and I'm just like, they're huge for him.
@dontwalkrun
But, like, there's just so much hatred against Trump.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, the media is lying and lying and lying and lying.
@dontwalkrun
And I don't trust the polls, because when you look at the polls, it's like 30% of the people said they're independent.
Like, what?
tim pool
No, my favorite thing is, like, when you go to the RealClearPolitics average, it's like Emerson has Trump minus 10.
Rasmussen has Trump, you know, minus 3.
Reuters has Trump minus 7.
And then ABCS Trump minus 20!
It's like the swing is like 2, 20, 7, 3, plus 2.
How could they all be so insanely different?
@dontwalkrun
Because when you look at the makeup of the polls, when you see who they're talking to, And listen, listen, the RCP in 2016 average, all the polls had Hillary within plus three.
tim pool
They were all like Hillary plus three, plus three, plus three across the board.
And then Rasmussen had Hillary plus two, which was the closest.
Today, the Trump favorability is like, everything's random.
It's like they may have well just started throwing, they have a calendar with like a list of numbers and they're closing their eyes and throwing darts.
And they'd be like, we have Trump minus 10 today.
And then ABC is like, ooh, we got minus 20.
People are going to believe that?
@dontwalkrun
But they're also doing things like they're saying, we didn't have enough of this one demographic, so we're gonna weight it.
We're basically gonna say, we're gonna overcompensate.
And they were not doing that.
Back in 2016.
Because the polls were so wrong.
And now they're trying to make up for it, and now they're trying to say, well, we didn't do this, so let's try this, and maybe it'll be more accurate.
These polls are insane.
When you look at all the tiny little details, who they spoke to, the demographic, it's... I think it's rigged.
When you have primary polls, those are pretty frickin' accurate.
When you're only talking to registered Democrats, you're only speaking to one group.
That's fine.
But when you're mixing in both, you can't have, well, we've talked to 50% Republicans and 50% Democrats.
And then that was shown in the polls, which isn't going to be accurate anyway.
Or maybe it is.
tim pool
Do you think Trump is going to win?
@dontwalkrun
I think it's 50-50.
I think it all depends on turnout, on how many ballots are accepted.
tim pool
How many vanish into ditches?
@dontwalkrun
How many vanish, how many, oh, well, this signature doesn't quite match, so we're gonna throw it out.
tim pool
Nope, nope.
That's getting, like in Pennsylvania, for instance, they can't throw that out anymore.
@dontwalkrun
I think it depends on the state.
But also, or they didn't sign it at all.
Right, mistakes.
And you're not gonna be able to say, well, they didn't sign it, but they meant to.
I mean, look what happened in New York.
unidentified
The ballots were wrong. The envelopes were wrong. They rejected a lot of ballots
tim pool
Like but but not just that it's that people started receiving ballots where the envelope was actually a
different name on it And they're like what I can't send that in. Sorry your
@dontwalkrun
votes gone. Well, this is this is why But every time I go on Instagram
There's there's a thing that says you need to register to vote
Like, I'm registered to vote and I'm going to vote in person.
If I can shop in person, I can vote in person.
You know?
When people say, well, I don't feel safe.
It's like, can you go to the grocery store?
tim pool
Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci said it already.
We can vote in person.
It's safe.
@dontwalkrun
But, you know, the Democrats are definitely running that whole, you need to vote by mail and, you know, get your family to vote and have a plan and... Let me tell you.
tim pool
I think if I was going to make a bet with cash money, it'd be for Trump.
Because the odds for Biden, just like the odds for Hillary, it's not even worth the money.
You put down a buck, you can win a quarter?
Nah!
You put down a buck on Trump, you can win a hundred bucks.
Cause they got the, like the odds for, well, the odds for Trump aren't that bad, but they were really bad.
It was amazing.
I know it was, it was like 13% for Trump to win.
I know people who made fat cash off Trump with very little risk.
That's why I'm saying like, yeah, you'd be crazy to put money down on.
@dontwalkrun
Do I, do I want Trump to win?
Yes.
Do I think that... I mean, anything's possible.
I mean, this is the craziest year anything can happen.
So nothing is a sure thing.
ian crossland
Have you guys noticed that the vote tallies at the end are very close?
And they have been, I think, systematically for the last 30 years.
And I haven't been following.
I don't know.
The last landslide was like Ronald Reagan, maybe?
Yeah.
tim pool
It's been getting more and more equally polarized.
ian crossland
No, I think it's media polarization.
like it's like fifty two forty eight is the final vote is that real or is that
just because people using those very acting machine i think it's media
tim pool
polarization key key markets are getting inundated with uh...
like the the way the way explain people as if you're from chicago you understand
this Growing up in Chicago, we had one, like, rock radio station that was prominent, and it played the same Stone Temple Pilots song every day.
It was like, you're gonna get Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, and that was it.
And I remember in, like, the mid-2000s, they would still play songs from the 90s, and I'm like, is this an oldies station now?
So, the reason I bring this up is, basically, they're like, it makes money, Roll with it.
So what happens is media markets start emerging.
And so now we're in the worst part of it where, like, this is my favorite.
After the debate, CNN ran an article saying Fox News airs pro-Trump propaganda after debates.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim pool
That's Fox News.
MSNBC did the same thing.
CNN did anti-Trump propaganda.
Are we gonna talk about all of the networks doing literally the same thing, pandering to key markets?
No, CNN's gonna pander, we're honest and objective, but Fox News is bad!
And then totally ignore MSNBC literally having Kamala Harris on to bash Trump.
That's pretty sure that's pro-Biden propaganda.
So what's happening is, you're getting the cities targeted, and the rural areas targeted, and it's creating, like, this very, you know, two big forces that are pushing into each other.
ian crossland
So you think, I mean, you've seen how they build machines that will literally flip a vote 51-49.
A guy testified in Congress in, I think it was Florida.
tim pool
Because the voting, they just hacked the voting machines.
ian crossland
Have they been doing that since, like, 2000?
I'm kind of, like, asking you the same question again.
tim pool
We don't know.
ian crossland
No way to know.
But it seems like it's just always so close, and I think, No, I think we're just that polarized.
tim pool
If someone's going to steal an election, they're going to give themselves a decent margin.
unidentified
They're not going to be like... They wouldn't make it look like 51% and you don't want to make it too obvious.
tim pool
No, that makes it obvious.
ian crossland
I don't know, but it's been happening for 30... You're talking about it right now.
tim pool
I know.
The reality is we're a polarized nation and we have the graphs to prove it.
It's not just votes.
We have so many different polls from so many different polling institutions, universities showing The Democrats and the Republicans ideologies and their shifts left and right and that's where we are.
The latest Pew ideological chart shows the Democrats have moved ridiculously far left and the Republicans have moved a little bit to the right.
So that's what's really happening.
And for me, as somebody who's like center left, the Democrats are gone.
They're, I don't know where they're at.
They so far left.
I can't even see them anymore.
I looked at my right.
They're Republicans.
I'm like, I'm kind of disagree with them, but you know, we agree on a lot of things.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Tulsi would have won 20 years ago for sure.
tim pool
If she had been around, I don't know about 20 years ago.
She's pretty progressive.
@dontwalkrun
Yeah.
And no, she, and she is progressive.
And I said radical before, and a lot of, a lot of her policies are, but.
But she's a smart woman.
I do like the commander-in-chief angle.
I like the foreign policy angle.
Domestic issues, not so much.
tim pool
But name a better Democrat.
They were all just really bad.
They didn't have the qualifications.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, I think Elizabeth Warren's domestic stuff is awful, too.
We're gonna invest billions and billions of dollars into green energy research.
We don't know what exactly we're gonna get from that.
Tell me what you want.
She goes, well, we got to the moon.
We knew we were going there.
Well, we knew to build a rocket.
Yeah.
We knew exactly what we needed to get there, and then we did it.
And the same thing, it's like, oh, we made tanks and we made ships and stuff for World War II, right?
For this green energy, like, okay, we're gonna invest all this money in research and development for this thing, right?
tim pool
Cold fusion!
@dontwalkrun
And then, and then this is the best part.
Like, this is her.
This is the best part.
We're gonna take this thing, whatever it is, And we're going to sell it around the world.
And if they want it, they got to buy it American.
Like we're going to, we're going to make it here.
I don't know how we're going to transport this thing.
I mean, it could be a huge thing.
Are we just going to like put this thing on a ship and, you know, move it over?
Like, no, it's, they don't have a plan.
ian crossland
Vote for me and I'll find someone that will know what to do.
@dontwalkrun
Or Joe Biden carrying cancer.
We don't.
How?
You can't throw money at a problem.
We need to know what you're working for.
Nobody gets on Biden for this.
Biden kept saying, we're going to do the most important thing we've ever done.
If you elect me, we're going to cure cancer.
tim pool
Which one?
@dontwalkrun
No, we're not.
tim pool
Which cancer?
@dontwalkrun
Any cancer.
And of course, the joke is if Trump said, we're going to cure cancer, people would be like, Cancer's not that bad.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Why would you want to cure it?
ian crossland
What's wrong?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, what's wrong with cancer?
tim pool
Well, friends, we are half an hour over.
@dontwalkrun
Oh my god.
tim pool
Yeah, but we gotta... It's time to call it!
So do you want to give a shout out to your channel and your social medias?
@dontwalkrun
Yes, if you want to follow me on Twitter and or Parler, it's Don'tWalkRun, all one word.
And my channel is Don'tWalkRun or Don'tWalkRunProductions on YouTube.
And there's some stuff in my Teespring store if you wanna buy a cool Asteroid 2020 t-shirt.
The Bernie logo and everything.
But I wanna thank you guys for having me on.
This has been really fun.
And I'm sorry we talked about Batman, but you guys do a great job.
unidentified
That was great.
tim pool
That's okay.
I'd like to one day get back to talking about Batman.
@dontwalkrun
I could go on about Batman.
But you, look, these guys are great.
They've been very hospitable and just very smart people.
very smart people and...
And I'm, this is really like, this is like the first time I've done in person interview.
unidentified
And we are in no way forcing him to do this, to say these things about us.
@dontwalkrun
No, it's fine.
tim pool
These are his own honest opinions.
@dontwalkrun
No, I was, I did a Skype call in to Gavin McGinnis, his show.
That was really fun.
He was super nice.
Not as nice as you guys, but very nice.
Just the fact that you guys invited me means a lot.
tim pool
Please keep supporting Tim.
@dontwalkrun
He's awesome.
unidentified
Thanks, man.
@dontwalkrun
Please keep supporting Tim and you know, he's awesome.
Oh, thanks man.
ian crossland
Is Don't Walk Run the walk away movement?
Is that in reference?
@dontwalkrun
No, no, people think that.
Don't walk away.
Run, right?
unidentified
Uh, that's a danger, a danger.
@dontwalkrun
Uh, no, it comes from, you know, like, like the old, like an old commercial, you know, like, uh, the sale isn't going to last forever.
So, you know, don't walk, run to your nearest Toyota dealer, you know, that kind of thing.
That's where that, that's where they come from.
So.
tim pool
Well, of course, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.
Check out my other channels, youtube.com slash TimCast, youtube.com slash TimCastNews, because I have too many channels.
And you can also follow Ian.
ian crossland
Yes, follow me on Twitter.
And Ian Crossland is the handle.
You can get me on Instagram too.
And pretty much most of the social networks.
I like Mines also.
Yeah, I co-founded Mines.
@dontwalkrun
Oh, I'm on Instagram.
I never push Instagram, really, sorry.
It's Don't Walk Run Productions.
I need 10,000 followers on Instagram to be able to do anything.
You're limited.
You can't put links and stuff.
tim pool
Really?
@dontwalkrun
Yeah, like when you do a story.
tim pool
Oh, I didn't know that.
@dontwalkrun
You can't do a link until you have a certain amount of followers.
tim pool
I hate elitism.
@dontwalkrun
It's so weird.
tim pool
So follow Andrew on Instagram.
@dontwalkrun
Don't Walk Run Productions.
It's really an amazing Instagram.
tim pool
And, of course, you can follow at Sour Patch Lids.
lydia smith
Yes, L-Y-D-S.
tim pool
Sour Patch L-Y-D-S.
@dontwalkrun
Lids is totally worth following.
unidentified
She's awesome.
Oh, yeah.
lydia smith
Oh, thanks.
I appreciate that.
@dontwalkrun
My goodness.
tim pool
It's Friday, right?
lydia smith
Yes, it is.
tim pool
We'll be back Monday, live, 8 p.m.
And, I don't know where we're going to be.
We'll talk about something.
Hopefully, Trump's going to be okay.
You know, with COVID.
@dontwalkrun
Hopefully, Trump will be alive.
lydia smith
Yes, yes, yes.
@dontwalkrun
Fingers crossed.
lydia smith
Fingers crossed.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Andrew, thanks for hanging out.
@dontwalkrun
Thank you, guys.
unidentified
It's been fun.
@dontwalkrun
You guys are the best.
unidentified
Cool.
@dontwalkrun
This is really fun.
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