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July 30, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Trump Threatens To Deploy National Guard To Portland As Cease Fire FAILS
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tim pool
Donald Trump has referred to Antifa in Portland as a beehive of terrorists and is threatening
to deploy the National Guard if the riots don't stop.
And the crazy thing about it is they've already negotiated some kind of preliminary ceasefire, which apparently isn't working.
They still rioted last night.
And I guess Trump today was like, nah, you know what, if they're not gonna deal with this, I'm gonna deal with this.
adam crigler
Apparently he's gonna deal with this.
I'm okay with it.
I'm okay with it.
I know a lot of people out there are okay with it too.
tim pool
A beehive of terrorists.
He's not sparing any language.
So we got this story and there's actually a really interesting perspective here.
See, it was widely reported.
unidentified
What's today?
tim pool
Thursday, right?
It was widely reported yesterday that the feds were gonna leave by today.
And it was like a big victory for the left.
The Democrats were like, we did it!
We won!
But then DHS was like, no, you didn't.
We're not going anywhere.
You get your police out like we've been asking for, you know, since the get-go.
And once we feel like everything's being taken care of, we'll get out of here.
Something interesting happened.
The large crowds, the thousands, apparently didn't show up.
Why not?
But they announced the state police were being deployed.
So I got a problem with this.
If they announce they're deploying more cops and the feds are staying, where'd all them protesters go?
adam crigler
Their paychecks ran out.
tim pool
No, I think it's that the feds were going to back down in a sense.
They're going to go inside and the state police would take over.
adam crigler
Well, they... I mean, we saw it yesterday.
They were talking like they won.
We beat them, guys!
Ha!
Stick it to the man.
The feds.
We got them.
tim pool
The man feds.
adam crigler
But they're still there.
They're not... They're staying, and more cops are coming now.
Tonight, they're clueless.
It just proves to me they're clueless.
tim pool
Tonight's the big test.
Because they announced the other day that Oregon State Police would be coming out.
All of these people, the thousands that would come out waving their phones and singing, they were telling us Trump's secret police gassing peaceful protesters.
adam crigler
I mean, were they, though?
Or was that just the media spinning what was going on?
tim pool
Did you see the video of the mom?
The yelling mom?
adam crigler
No, I must have missed that one.
tim pool
I had to come out here.
Why am I dealing with this?
unidentified
What is wrong with you?
tim pool
Blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, yelling at the feds.
Just screaming, and it went viral.
NBC put it up.
adam crigler
Of course they did.
tim pool
And yes, the media was like, oh, the Trump secret police.
OK, media, fine.
I don't care if it's the media or the protesters.
When it's the Democrats' secret police being deployed with masks on so you can't identify them, all of a sudden now no one shows up.
I thought they were protesting militarization of the police.
That's what I was told.
I was told by the local journalists and the people on the ground, it is a police militarization protest.
Except they don't protest now that the Democrats are sending them out?
No, they all left.
adam crigler
I mean, I'm so used to their hypocrisy.
It's not even surprising anymore.
tim pool
But listen, it's the individual people.
It's not the politician.
Those moms, actually still a bunch of moms came out apparently, but the video footage that's come out shows a much, much smaller crowd rioting, getting cleared out easily by state police.
I think it might be local, I'm not sure, but it's not the feds.
And Andy Ngo notes they didn't have the big numbers anymore for whatever, you know, he doesn't say why.
And that made it very easy for them to be dispersed.
adam crigler
Makes sense.
tim pool
So Trump says today he'll send the National Guard if they don't get things under control, because Antifa and the far leftists are still coming out, as of yesterday.
Tonight is the big test.
If the numbers come back and people really do decide, you know, maybe we should protest the Democrat secret police too, then maybe Trump will actually send in the National Guard.
But I gotta say, man, he called it a beehive of terrorism.
Portland, man!
adam crigler
He didn't call Portland the Beehive.
Just simply Antifa.
tim pool
Yeah, right, he said they're trying to clear out a beehive of terrorism.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The funny thing is that other media, when they reference Portland, they say with like a robust history of protest.
Like, oh, is that what you call it?
adam crigler
Robust?
tim pool
Yeah, something like that, I don't know.
adam crigler
Nice.
tim pool
So, but anyway, there's also the Portland moms are fighting because of like, apparently the leader of the wall of moms is like racist.
adam crigler
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Oh, of course.
tim pool
And is like subverting black voices or something, so.
adam crigler
What a surprise.
tim pool
They're falling apart.
And then we got some other really big news.
Now, this is the biggest news of the day.
That Donald Trump, depending on who you read, threatened to, called for, or suggested postponing the election.
adam crigler
I saw that.
It was a question.
tim pool
It was 8.46am.
You know, Trump's sitting there drinking his morning coffee and his eyes are half shut and he's like... He just types it and presses send.
And then he goes about his business.
And then everyone in the world starts screaming and waving their arms in the air.
He's a fascist!
This is it!
adam crigler
No, he did it on purpose.
tim pool
He's a troll, man.
adam crigler
No, because the stock market was horrible today.
tim pool
Oh, is that what it was?
adam crigler
It was a big, huge chunk drop.
tim pool
But this was at 846.
Was he trying to make it drop further?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
That's probably why it dropped.
At 846, he tweeted this out.
Post, you know, delay the election, question mark, question mark.
And that probably made everyone freak out, like, oh no, what's going to happen?
adam crigler
Here's the best part.
tim pool
Here's the best part.
All the media comes out immediately and says, Donald Trump can't postpone the election.
He can.
I mean, technically, technically.
The powers granted to the president under National Security Presidential Directive 51 have not yet been tested, but they've been longstanding.
And We'll see, I suppose.
But people have known about Directive 51 for a long time, and it's really funny because some of these progressives, these leftists, wrote 13 years ago.
Some of the same people today who are screaming, Orange Man bad, were writing George W. Bush bad.
And there's this long article from Slate where they basically say that the language that we can see from Presidential Directive 51, because most of it is still confidential, we don't know, is very vague and basically grants these weird powers to the president to coordinate the other branches of government.
Meaning Trump could theoretically be like, so here's the prerequisites for Directive 51.
Catastrophic loss of life anywhere in the world.
True.
Massive damage to our economy.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
And there's other factors, but those I bring up specifically because they've happened.
adam crigler
Already.
tim pool
Are we in a major catastrophe?
this. The goal of Directive 51 is to ensure the continuity of the federal government in
154,000 dead?
the event of a major catastrophe. Are we in a major catastrophe? 154,000 dead? How many
people dead around the planet?
adam crigler
I'm not an expert in this field, so I'm going to not answer.
tim pool
It's not about being an expert, it's about the fact that Trump literally could just say yes.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
He could say the economy's being destroyed, and now our election is being threatened by this first-time mass nationwide mail-in voting plan.
It wouldn't be only mail-in voting, but if Trump really thinks it would subvert essential functions of government, then he can use COVID and, I mean, the riots and the economy as a...
As pretext for invoking 51.
And I think if he did, which I really, really, really don't think he would, I think all he would do is actually ensure the election went as normal without mail-in voting.
So it would give him these weird coordination powers over the other governments, you know, the other branches of government.
It would be really interesting, but we'll talk about this because there's some other funny stuff there.
But then we got really, really, really big news.
adam crigler
Oh, goodness.
tim pool
Patreon lost.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Patreon lost their lawsuit.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
This is crazy.
adam crigler
Good, right?
I'm happy about it, right?
tim pool
The gist of it is that Patreon... There's a law in California.
It's complex, so I'll keep it simple.
Patreon banned a bunch of people for hate speech.
So this one dude, Owen Benjamin, told his fans to sue Patreon, and they did.
That means that Patreon has to front the cost of arbitration, because that's what you gotta do in California.
So $2,500 to $10,000 per person who sued, and legal fees.
So Patreon thinks they're going to be on the hook for like 15 to 20 million dollars.
And they sued back.
Patreon sued for an injunction, like a preliminary injunction, saying like, you can't do this.
Literally told the judge, if you side with them, we will be forced to front like millions of dollars.
And the judge was like, I don't care.
This is longstanding California law.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
And then I guess today, props to that judge.
Well, it's just the law, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Patreon tried changing the terms of service at the last minute because they knew that they were going to be on the hook for this cash.
So now, you know, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't want to pretend, but I guess the scuttlebutt is, they may be in trouble for doing that.
So now we might see all of these people who were banned by Patreon launching arbitration claims against them, even if they don't have merit.
It's going to force Patreon to front tens of millions of dollars.
adam crigler
They're done.
tim pool
That's it.
adam crigler
They're done.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, Mike Cernovich said if Sargon of Akkad told his audience to file arbitration claims in California, it would be the end of Patreon.
adam crigler
Yeah, because he got banned, right?
tim pool
He got thousands.
He got thousands.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
Wow.
tim pool
Yup.
And the other important factor is when Sargon got banned, I lost patrons because they canceled their accounts immediately, which negatively impacted me and everybody else.
I basically have, you know, I still have a Patreon.
I don't really do anything with it.
I just left it there, and I'm like, I'm done.
I'm out.
Because everybody was leaving.
So I was like, what's the point?
I can't try and sustain this, and the company's awful.
This could be the end of Patreon.
That's gonna be big.
We're gonna talk about all that.
I don't wanna give away too much.
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adam crigler
That's the only important thing you should be doing right now is smashing the like button.
And also, whoever sent me this Carl Sagan book, thank you very much.
tim pool
There you go, man.
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Let's jump over to the first story.
Trump threatens to deploy National Guard to quell Portland protests from the Military Times.
They say, President Donald Trump on Thursday threatened to deploy the National Guard to Portland, Oregon if protests there don't stop in the next few days, saying the violence has lasted for too long.
So let's, let me just, I gotta do this correction, you know?
Don't put protest if you're complaining about violence.
So, he wants the riots to stop.
adam crigler
But then he said protesters, so... Well, that's not a quote from him.
tim pool
Right, right.
Well, here's a quote from Trump.
These protesters, many should be arrested because these are professional agitators.
These are professional anarchists, Trump said during a White House press conference.
These are people that hate our country.
We are telling them right now that we are coming in very soon.
The National Guard, a lot of very tough people.
These are not people that just have to guard the courthouse and save it.
These are people who are allowed to go forward and do what they have to do.
At the peak, more than 40,000 guardsmen were activated across the country to help deal with the protests sparked by the death of George Floyd.
The use of guard troops to help with violence on American soil is not unusual, but is typically done under the direction or with permission from state and local officials.
In the case of Portland, where protests have taken place every night since May, the governor and mayor have objected to the intervention of federal law enforcement to address the issue.
They don't know what they are doing, Trump said of local leaders.
And he's right.
They're trying to declare victory like the feds are gonna leave.
The riots still happened.
A much smaller crowd.
So it may die down now, but I'm not entirely convinced.
The Oregon Military Department told Military Times that the Oregon National Guard has not been requested or notified of any request to respond to the situation in Portland at this time.
And that's from Major Leslie Reed, the department's Deputy Director of Public Affairs.
This could just be Trump talking big.
It could be.
But maybe he just hasn't drafted anything or told anybody yet.
The National Guard Bureau deferred questions to the White House and Pentagon.
Pentagon officials did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
On Thursday, Trump praised the controversial presence of Homeland Security personnel in Portland, saying that the place was a mess and their deployment prevented hundreds of millions of dollars in damage to the federal courthouse.
Trump said those officers, quote, are working today and probably tomorrow to clean out this beehive of terrorists in Portland.
If they do it, I will be very happy, he said.
Then slowly we can start to leave the city.
If they don't do it, we will be sending in the National Guard.
The president's announcement comes just two days after a congressional hearing, where a District of Columbia Army National Guard major who was working on protest control during June 1st demonstrations outside the White House testified that federal agents were overly aggressive in clearing out peaceful protesters.
Major Adam DiMarco said the guardsmen on duty that day were left confused and disheartened by the actions.
with some members questioning whether they had violated the constitutional rights of free speech
and assembly. Trump has voiced no such concerns, saying the protests were inspired by non-violent
ideals but have since become little more than an excuse for destruction and mayhem." Boom.
They set a church on fire. Yeah.
Churches.
adam crigler
It's not just one.
tim pool
They've sent multiple.
Was it St.
John's?
Is that the church?
lydia smith
I think so.
tim pool
The presidential church, basically.
Could you look up this guy, Major Adam DeMarco, real quick?
Yeah.
I think I saw some news about him that provides context as to why he's complaining, but I want to make sure we get it right.
He might have a Wikipedia page.
lydia smith
Yeah, let me find it.
tim pool
See if you can find it.
adam crigler
I mean, Trump nails it right there.
He says it, and it's true.
It was inspired by nonviolent ideals, but those ideals have been lost with the violence that have happened.
It's now an excuse to just, you know, rock over statues and burn down buildings and small businesses.
It's crazy.
tim pool
So take a look at this tweet from Andy Ngo.
This is from the 30th at 12.28pm.
And we can see in this video, there's actually far less people than normal.
Wow, yeah.
Significantly less.
outside the Portland federal courthouse.
Rioters were more quickly repelled because they lacked the huge crowds that gave them
better cover to commit acts of violence.
And we can see in this video, there's actually far less people than normal.
And why is that?
adam crigler
Where'd everybody go?
They went home.
They went home, huh?
They won.
They beat the feds.
tim pool
So the feds are still there?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
The courthouse is still walled off with fences, we can see that.
The feds have straight up said they won't leave.
In fact, Trump is saying, we'll send the National Guard in.
Why did they all disappear?
The big question, like I mentioned earlier, will be if these protesters come out tonight, having seen the tear gas and the attack on these Antifa people.
adam crigler
From state police, not the feds.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
So here's what I think.
Actually, I tweeted it.
Here's what I said.
Now that the people of Portland would have to protest their own Democratic governor, it seems they didn't show up to reinforce Antifa and far leftists.
When it was Trump's police, thousands were outraged.
Now that it's a Democrat, they don't care.
What happened to all that talk about the Gestapo and Trump's secret police?
adam crigler
Yep, they're not talking about that in New York.
tim pool
We gotta be fair.
We gotta be fair.
What's the governor's name?
Kate Brown?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Kate Brown, secret police, being deployed to the streets to attack peaceful protesters.
Adam, why are these Democrats, in your expert opinion, why are the Democrats sending out unidentified secret police to brutalize these peaceful demonstrators?
adam crigler
Well, Tim, in my expert opinion, I have no idea.
tim pool
Is it because Kate Brown is a fascist?
adam crigler
Yes.
Let's go with that.
tim pool
Okay.
Confirmed.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Confirmed by my expert opinion.
My opinion, rather.
It's expert.
tim pool
Did you find him?
lydia smith
I did find him.
I haven't found anything interesting about him.
And he doesn't have a Wikipedia page.
tim pool
He doesn't?
lydia smith
Yeah, which is really weird, right?
tim pool
Oh, okay.
No, that's fine.
That's fine.
He's just a National Guardsman.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's a whistleblower, I guess.
That's what they're calling him.
tim pool
Oh, interesting.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
I wonder.
A whistleblower, huh?
I heard some people talking about... So apparently some guy came out complaining about Trump and Barr clearing out the protests in front of the White House.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And I just wanted to check to see if there was anything.
You didn't find anything?
lydia smith
So, Louie Gohmert questions his loyalty to the Democratic Party.
adam crigler
No, he questioned his loyalty to the oath that he took to become the Attorney General.
Who?
One of the Democrats.
And then the Republican guys in the testimony were like, are you going to let this slide?
tim pool
No, no, no, you're talking about something else.
Louie Gohmert's a Republican.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And we're talking about the National Guardsman criticizing Trump for clearing... Yeah, I was talking about Adam DiMarco.
lydia smith
Yeah, so, okay, so, noting his unsuccessful run for Congress, Representative Louie Gohmert from Texas told DiMarco his testimony, quote, will serve you well with the Democratic Party, close quote, but he questioned his loyalty to the military for opposing his commander-in-chief's contention.
tim pool
So, wait, wait, what you're saying is this DiMarco guy ran for public office as a Democrat?
lydia smith
Failed.
Yeah.
tim pool
He ran.
He tried to become a Democratic congressman.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
There it is.
That's why, before I said anything, before I said anything, I wanted just to have the source pulled up.
Why would someone just come out and be like, these, you know, police clearing out these peaceful demonstrations.
Oh, there it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He's a Democrat.
He ran for office as a Democrat.
Look, man, I get it.
You know, there's a lot of criticism.
They say Trump went out and did a photo op.
I had an argument with some family members about it, and I'm like, it's, it's, it's such stupid.
It's, it's so dumb.
Okay?
You can't have months of violent riots and protests.
And more importantly, If you ask a Trump supporter why they cleared out the area, you know, Lafayette Square, they had announced they were clearing out a certain time already.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
And Bill Barr said it had nothing to do with Trump doing a photo op, you know, taking a photo in front of the church.
And I'll tell you straight up, you know why Donald Trump went out and took a photo holding a Bible in front of the church?
adam crigler
To show the American public that we got this under control.
tim pool
Boom.
Exactly.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We put the fire out, we saved the church, and we are still in control of things.
adam crigler
Period.
But yeah, it's like, duh.
I wasn't even that, you know, I was entering my political, you know, viewpoints at that moment of time.
That was like, what, two months ago now?
A month and a half?
tim pool
I'm not saying it was the right thing to do morally.
I'm just saying that's the reason.
And it's funny because they always try to make it the worst of the worst, right?
Like, the only reason Trump did it was for a re-election photo op.
And I'm like, that makes no sense.
I mean, if he wanted a photo of him holding a Bible in front of the church, he could have waited a day.
No, what he did want to show is that he's in control.
adam crigler
Because the church was just set on fire, and it's a historic church, so they took care of it.
tim pool
What did Bill Barr say when he was asked?
This was great, this was great.
So Attorney General Bill Barr is testifying, and you have this one, I don't know which guy, the guy's name who asked him, but he's like, are you aware that the bishop and the priest or whatever condemned your clearing of the protests?
And he goes, was that before or after we put the fire out?
Mike dropped.
adam crigler
The bar was dropping bombs.
They were like, no, no, no, no, no.
Reclaiming my time.
Reclaiming my time.
lydia smith
Don't let him speak.
adam crigler
Too many bombs.
tim pool
I'll tell you who's being political.
It's that priest, that bishop or whoever, coming out and attacking the president when the fire trucks couldn't get through.
The far left wanted the church to burn down.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
I can't take these memes, man.
adam crigler
They don't talk about that side of it.
It's only the fact that Trump cleared him out.
It's like, well, did you think about how they cleared him out so they could put the church out?
The fire that was burning this historical church?
tim pool
It's crazy information warfare, you know?
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
It's like trying to, like, if people don't hear it, they'll just assume whatever the worst is.
adam crigler
Or whatever they're told.
tim pool
So here's what I see a lot in these memes.
I've seen a ton of these memes.
It's like, it said something like, if save the whales doesn't mean F the fish, then why do people get so triggered by Black Lives Matter?
And I see this meme being shared by a bunch of progressives, and it says to me they don't know anything at all about Black Lives Matter.
And so I politely respond and I just say, I think a lot of people are upset because their movement on their website calls for disrupting the nuclear family.
Like that's, you know, liberal and conservative alike are going to be kind of offended by that.
Some people won't care on both sides.
But I think some people see that and they're like, I don't like that.
And then they're like, what do you mean?
That's not what Black Lives Matter mean.
They get confused.
Well, have you gone to the movement, the global movements website?
adam crigler
And read their doc, because it says that.
Down with the patriarchy and down with the nuclear family.
tim pool
Yeah, patriarchy, gender norms, Western family.
And again, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying morally right or wrong.
I'm saying, here's a thing that makes people kind of be like, I don't like that.
And that's it.
But when you get your news from memes, instead of actually asking the person why they're upset, God, I hate meme news.
Yeah, that's all it is, man.
adam crigler
I can't stand them, man.
tim pool
Well, that's how the left gets their news.
It really is.
I mean, and I say the left, but the left is more likely to get their news from memes.
adam crigler
And we all know the left can't meme.
This is a proven fact that they cannot.
I learned it on the internet, so it's true.
tim pool
You know what's interesting?
It's actually like an 80-20 thing, where like 80% of the right has successful memes.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But memes live or die.
You know what I mean?
adam crigler
That's a good point.
They're good or they're not.
tim pool
Right.
And the bad ones disappear and the good ones move up.
The left, it's like 80% of their memes are trash.
But they do every so often get something good out that works.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
It does.
But this is why they need to control cultural institutions and media.
And you know what?
Conservatives are bad at countering it.
It's a fact.
That's true.
adam crigler
Because they're not on the internet.
They're out there working.
tim pool
I mean, they're on their phones more than ever.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Nowadays.
tim pool
It's playing a big, big, it's making, you know, has a big role in this.
But I think when you look at Twitter, when you look at YouTube, for instance, and Facebook, you'll notice that conservatives do ridiculously well on all of these platforms, which says something.
The left is comprised of people who are being fed the news and just mindlessly milling about.
The right is people who are going on social media, sharing and engaging with the news.
So if you're on YouTube, And you go to a video of some, like, left-wing issue, you're gonna see it's thumbs-down to oblivion.
All the comments are angry.
Like, this is garbage, this is trash.
Then you go to, like, a moderate or conservative, and it's gonna be more thumbs-up.
Now, it is true that a lot of progressive YouTubers get mostly thumbs-up, but they do have a higher density, it seems, of thumbs-down.
For whatever reason, I don't know.
But typically, you can predict what's gonna happen.
Gillette does a commercial where they're like, Toxic masculinity must go.
And then it's just thumbs-down into oblivion.
Maybe it's because conservatives are more likely to share news, and liberals are more likely to just watch TV or share memes.
That could be it, I'm not entirely sure, but based on my conversations Man, it is... You know, when I'm talking to people who are conservative, they tend to have... understand references I'm making when I'm like... So, I'll be like this.
So, you heard about what's going on in California with repealing civil rights.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was on... Tucker was talking about that.
I'll be like, yeah, that's serious, right?
Yep.
I'll talk to someone on the left, and I'll say, so, are you familiar with what's going on in California?
No.
Okay.
adam crigler
Well, what's happening in California?
tim pool
They're repealing civil rights.
adam crigler
Right, that's what they'll say.
tim pool
No, they're not.
adam crigler
Like, wait, what?
That's not true.
No, I don't believe you.
No.
Yeah, look it up online.
No, no.
I know California.
That's not them.
I'm good.
tim pool
Send me a link about it.
Every news story is like, affirmative action, affirmative action, and not really telling you what they're doing.
It's really annoying trying to break through the noise.
But to people who are plugged in and constantly searching and reading the news, they understand the deeper context.
Try explaining Obamagate to your average lefty, and they're gonna be like, oh, this is crazy, what are you talking about, that sounds nuts.
Talk to a conservative and they're gonna be like, oh yeah, yeah, because I heard about that.
adam crigler
A lot more conservatives are a lot higher on the level of just hearing about it now.
tim pool
Just hearing about it?
adam crigler
Yeah, they know about it.
That's kind of what Q is all about.
tim pool
What I mean is like, if you've got the average right-leaning independent, they've probably heard something about Obamagate and something about spying and unmasking.
adam crigler
Well, you said it.
I mean, they pay attention.
They're more inclined to look for, like, actual news instead of memes.
Be like, oh, this meme is news.
Pass it along.
tim pool
Look, I'm going to say it again.
News whip.
Study.
It tracked engagement and found the left was primarily engaging with Occupy Democrats.
It is a meme page.
It's not real news.
And the conservatives were engaging with Fox News.
Fox News is biased, but it's news.
They have standards, they have a corrections policy, they're NewsGuard certified.
And then you have, I think the most shared now is Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But the left is still memes.
Memes.
Yeah.
And so I see, like, pictures of, like, a Black Lives Matter fest, and it'll be like, heh, answer me this, conserver bros.
If this, then why not that?
And I'm like, that's, that's, that's not news, and no one thinks that.
They're all fake arguments.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, it was, here's a really funny one.
I keep seeing this tweet be shared on Facebook between all these progressives where they're like, answer me this, you know, Trump supporters, where are all the 2A libertarians saying, you know, that they were going to stand up to government tyranny with, with rifles.
Now that tyranny is happening in Portland.
And then I just sent him a picture of the Boogaloo boys showing up, showing up in Portland.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
They're right there.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They're literally right there.
They didn't bring their guns.
Yeah.
But they did show up.
And I sent them more pictures of the Boogaloo boys marching with Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
And then I'm like, this meme is fake.
Somebody just made it up.
Stop sharing this.
adam crigler
Part of the problem is these people on the left, they have this image in their head of like this bad guy, the ultimate bad guy.
And it's like the Biggest Nazi, hates everything that they're about, and they just apply that as a blank slate over everybody that isn't in their group.
So if you vote for Trump, clearly you're this one person that I have in my head, this image of this bad guy that I have.
So that's all their memes, like, well riddle me this bad guy that I have in my head, where in reality most people aren't that person.
It's really simple.
not everyone's more in the middle looking at this look at him like you're
crazy no one's like that that's not the norm why why do you think that white why
is your argument always against that one person because that's not the norm it's
tim pool
really simple.
This was noted I think on Sam Harris's podcast and when I was talking with Jack
Dorsey on Rogan conservative journalists will follow liberals and conservatives
right liberal journalists only follow liberals.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
Jack did say things were getting better and that was starting to change.
I'm not sure where we are at now, but that's the easiest way to explain it.
It's a one-way street.
If you're on the right, you're looking at everyone to your left.
If you're on the left, you're looking at everyone to your left.
So they don't see what conservatives are talking about, they don't see the news, and they have no idea!
It's crazy when I'll tweet something out that'll somehow find its way into a left journalism bubble, and they're like, what are you talking about?
This is the craziest thing I've ever heard.
That's not true.
And I'll be like, did you not know this happened?
I'm just using a random news story as an example.
I'll be like, what do you mean?
It's right here.
Reuters reported it.
And they'll be like, oh, I didn't see that.
Yeah, because you're sitting in a toilet spinning around in circles with all your buddies.
And you're just like eating each other's refuse.
It's like human centipede, man.
The funny thing is, there's a meme going around.
It's a sticker in New York City that someone posted.
And it's the human centipede, but it's Trump, and then a Fox News reporter, and then a guy wearing a MAGA hat.
What's funny about that is I get the idea they're trying to convey.
It's not true, though.
It's Fox News, then Trump, then Trump supporter.
Not the way they had it.
And the other issue is that Trump is a symptom, not the cause of.
So it's actually not even true that Trump is in the front of the line if they want to play this meme up.
What was going on in this country was going on for a long time.
What was going on with the culture war and social justice and PC was happening well before Trump.
Trump came about and was voted in partly because of all of these things.
He is a symptom of our current state of affairs in this country, not the creator of it.
They don't understand that.
They blame Trump for it?
No.
If everything was normal, if jobs were here, if people were happy, there wouldn't be a Donald Trump.
He came in because he specifically said, look at these things.
He talked about trade and he made fun of, you know, Rosie O'Donnell and other people.
adam crigler
Well, Andy called out the establishment in a very specific way that I'm tending to lean on the fact that it's pretty true.
I mean, a lot of the stuff that he was talking about, we're finding proof and they're talking about it now.
Subpoenas are being issued.
It's going to be a really interesting fall.
tim pool
They've been selling us out to multinational corporations.
Everybody knows it.
It's like every activist has been talking about it.
Everyone was complaining about it.
So when you got Bernie Sanders and Trump very early on talking about the TPP, NAFTA, and immigration, you had left and right-wing populists being like, here we go.
Bernie Sanders, however, said, let me tow the establishment line.
Being a millionaire sounds fun.
And Donald Trump was like, I'm already rich.
I don't care.
I'm gonna do whatever I want.
adam crigler
And give away my yearly salary.
tim pool
They spend way more money on Trump than his yearly salary.
So he's giving away his salary.
I get it.
adam crigler
Same with every president.
Whatever.
That's a non-issue.
tim pool
But I'm just kind of like, to be honest, you know, it's $400,000.
Presidents get rich off their books and appearances.
You know, their salary is whatever.
adam crigler
I'm not going to write that off.
I think that's awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, no, it's true.
I agree.
I agree.
I'm not dragging him for it.
It's a good thing he did it.
I'm just like, a lot of people want to act like it's the biggest thing ever.
It's good.
Trump is a billionaire, but I respect it.
You know what I mean?
Like, sure.
So I want to show you this.
One of the big narrative bits that's been coming out around these protests is that white supremacists Well, we have this tweet from Jared Holt and I must say, if Jared Holt is saying right now there's been no evidence to suggest this is true, it doesn't mean it's not true.
I take his word for it.
Jared Holt writes for Right Wing Watch.
It's part of a progressive advocacy organization, and he writes about the right, and from a left perspective.
He's very biased, but he's come out and even said, on Tuesday, I asked Richmond police and the Richmond mayor's
office to provide information to support the claims they made to this outlet
that white supremacists instigated riots in their city.
They have not responded to my request. Other outlets have asked for this
evidence too and have similarly come up with nothing.
Richmond officials have presented no direct evidence showing white
supremacists organized the protest, encouraged violence, or participated in
any property damage.
Okay.
If this guy's job is to write about this stuff, and I think he's biased, but even he's saying they've presented no evidence, then I think that's where we're at so far.
There's no point in going around with the narrative claiming it's true.
Now, Jared, I believe he does go on to say, though, it could be true if they're drafting up indictments.
They're not going to release evidence.
He says this story quotes a spokesperson for Mayor LeVar Stoney, who said police were still investigating and more arrests were suspected.
adam crigler
You know what the problem with this though?
This is the issue.
You think a white supremacist, everyone just instantly thinks far right.
Far-left people can be white supremacists also.
tim pool
They are.
adam crigler
And they certainly are.
I mean, that's what we're seeing.
tim pool
The challenge is colloquial understanding.
adam crigler
Yeah, they're trying to connect the far-right, you know, classic, what they would say, a white supremacist.
But in reality, they're very much far-left white supremacists.
And that's kind of what it feels like they're ignoring.
Because That's what we're seeing.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
And I tweeted about this.
I said something like, if Jared is the one saying that they've got no evidence as of right now, then I take his word for it because it's literally his beat.
If he saw even, if he saw like a tiny, tiny morsel of white supremacy, he'd be like, there it is.
I found it.
You know what I mean?
So if he's not seeing it, but people immediately were like, I thought Antifa were white supremacists, Tim.
I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
But, come on.
The colloquial understanding of what they're saying is they're trying to insinuate specific groups of people are dressing up like Antifa to go out and make Antifa look bad.
That's the specific claim.
If there's no evidence of it, then I'm glad it's being, at least for now, not necessarily debunked, but like...
Stopped.
If they're actually going to issue arrests, if they're going to make these claims, they should present evidence before coming out and just saying this nonsense, because it basically makes everybody mad.
adam crigler
I mean, we're asking the media to present evidence for things that they're claiming?
I mean, that had me giggling.
Come on, that's pretty funny.
Really?
tim pool
Well, hold on, hold on.
This is why it's really funny.
You'd think the media would be at least one step above a political, like a progressive advocacy organization.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But that's why I think it's kind of funny to see Jared Holt, whose whole thing is like reporting on the right, to be like, where's the evidence?
And the local media being like, the police said it!
There it is!
Like, here's the story!
Don't you need, like, three confirmed sources before you can publish something as a fact?
No.
They write headlines saying, White Supremacists Secretly Organizing Riots.
unidentified
Boom!
tim pool
Says police.
adam crigler
I saw the words on the internet.
It's true!
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
It must be true.
tim pool
It used to be before you published you had three sources to confirm it.
adam crigler
Is that how it used to be, right?
tim pool
It used to be. Well, I don't want to speak for every single news outlet, but typically, yeah.
So it used to be like if someone told you they saw a brick, you know, hit a cop in the head,
you'd be like, what's your name? Can I put you on the record?
Then you'd walk to another person, you'd get three sources to confirm.
We all saw this. You'd be like, I got three people saying it.
They're all independent of each other.
And the same was true for basically a bunch of other stories.
You can't just, if someone tells you something, you can't be like, well this guy said it was true, so it is!
You'd be like, can independent sources corroborate the claim?
They don't do that anymore.
The police said it, therefore we report it, and instead of doing any due diligence, they just say, police say.
And there's your headline.
Police say.
They do this all the time with tons of stories.
They'll just be like, you know, you know what's really funny?
When they have anonymous sources, is the best part.
So it'll be like, anonymous source claims Donald Trump is secretly, you know, putting poison in dog bowls throughout the city of, you know, throughout D.C.
adam crigler
Or someone close to Donald Trump says that this is happening.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
I've got a specific point.
They'll say an anonymous source claims, you know, Donald Trump threw a brick at the face of his assistant.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
And you'll be a lot.
People will read the story and go, whoa.
And then, you have to imagine how the story was actually sourced.
There's a DC beat reporter with a notepad standing in an alley, and there's a guy covered in garbage just going, and Donald Trump, you know, did a backflip off the White House, and then I saw him, he threw a brick!
adam crigler
He threw a brick.
tim pool
And then he just like walks into a wall, falls down, and he goes... And they're like, he said it!
That's confirmed to me!
Anonymous source claims!
It's like, yes, but is your anonymous source the guy who's drugged out in the alley, freaking out, spouting gibberish?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And what part of that did you leave out?
Like, before he's like, he says Donald Trump is a lizard person who threw a brick at his advisor and then jumped off the building and flew away in outer space, and he cuts off the beginning of the end and just says Donald Trump threw a brick.
adam crigler
Or it was a foam brick, and the advisor was actually playing catch with him.
tim pool
It was a football.
I mean, they do this stuff all the time.
It'll be like Donald Trump was throwing objects at his staff earlier today.
adam crigler
No, he was throwing objects at a teenager in the White House lawn, but they're just throwing catch, playing
baseball.
tim pool
They'll be like, the disabled son of a military vet was visiting the White House when Donald Trump began throwing
objects at him.
And that's the narrative? And you'll see a photo and he's throwing a baseball and the kid's catching it. It's like,
the kid's in a wheelchair or something.
That's how the media rolls, man. I'll tell you what, we got this story here. There apparently are some white supremacists
in Portland.
That's right.
The Wall of Moms are racist.
Oregon Live says Portland Wall of Moms crumbles amid online allegations by former partner Don't Shoot PDX.
adam crigler
Oh, that's the name of the former partner?
tim pool
Look at this important announcement from Wall of Moms.
I'm not going to read this to everybody, but they basically said it's anti-blackness and not to support the Wall of Moms.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Wall of Moms, white supremacy confirmed.
So all of those- Whoa, whoa, whoa.
adam crigler
I'm sorry.
Wait.
That's only one source, Tim.
tim pool
Oh no, I'm sorry, you're incorrect, good sir.
I'm using the Oregon Live, a trusted, NewsGuard-certified organization.
Therefore, what they say is law.
I don't really think the Wall of Moms are a bunch of white supremacists.
That's the joke.
But the point is, they're being accused of being white supremacists because the only thing these left-wing organizations can do is accuse you of being White supremacist, racist, anti-black, whatever.
And so now you get it.
Here you go.
Congratulations.
I don't know what this X is supposed to be.
It makes it hard to read.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I see.
The Wall of Moms published the statement.
They X'd it out and then said, Edit for everyone upset about the post.
We are not against moms.
Everyone has a place in organizing.
We are no longer in support of WOM leadership.
Anti-blackness.
Do not support Wall of Moms.
After leaving vulnerable black women downtown after marching.
I'm not gonna read it, I'm not gonna read it.
adam crigler
Thank you, thank you.
tim pool
You know why?
You know why?
They're immediately trying to drum up racism where there is none.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They're having a dispute because I guess someone got kicked off a social media account.
So what happens?
They say, well, they left people behind.
It's like, what are you talking about?
Well, it's anti-blackness, they said.
Hearing them say the lies are finally clear is pretty funny.
adam crigler
It's rich.
tim pool
What do you do when they're accusing each other of being racist and fighting each other?
The drama unfolding.
Lots of us are trying to regroup and do things the right way.
adam crigler
I mean, they do act rather racist.
tim pool
They're racists.
This is the stupidest story ever.
I'm not surprised though, look.
I'll tell you what, Jared Holt says, so far they haven't released in, I believe it was Richmond, evidence that white supremacists were actually organizing.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, I got some new evidence for you.
adam crigler
Oh, goodness.
tim pool
According to Don't Shoot PDX, the Wall of Moms are engaging in anti-blackness.
lydia smith
That makes them white supremacists?
tim pool
Yes, that makes Wall of Moms the white supremacists.
Therefore, in, I believe it's this video, you can see the yellow.
Those are the white supremacists.
adam crigler
Oh, so they came out last night.
tim pool
Yeah, they're there.
They're in the video.
So you can see some of them.
They wear yellow helmets and yellow shirts and there they are.
adam crigler
It's like wearing a medic.
The guys with the medic crosses on there.
They're not medics.
Some of them are.
I've seen them in the front pushing at the cops.
That's not what a medic does.
The medic is in the back to help people if they get hurt.
tim pool
There are medics.
They wear red crosses.
And there are journalists.
They wear press.
And Antifa learned how to engage in propagandistic warfare.
adam crigler
By doing exactly that.
tim pool
So they'll pretend to be medics and they'll pretend to be, you know, filmers.
adam crigler
So what you're saying is, I'm right.
tim pool
Well, you can't make it sound like every single medic is secretly Antifa because there's... That's what you're here for, Tim.
Right.
adam crigler
Excellent.
tim pool
Good teamwork, buddy.
I'd be willing to bet, for the most part, if you were on the right, and I've seen this happen, if you're wearing a Trump hat, and you get hit in the head with a brick, one of these medics will come to your aid, and they will help you.
Straight up.
However, the problem is, you don't know when Antifa is pretending to be a medic.
And then going, I'm a medic, man!
I'm a medic!
You can't arrest me!
And then they get arrested, and then they say, the police arrested medics and journalists.
That's why I get really annoyed by these journalists who scream at the top of their lungs at police.
F you, man!
unidentified
F you!
tim pool
You can't do this to me!
I'm a journalist!
It's like, dude, listen.
You're another random person in the crowd, you need to be aware of your surroundings, and you need to know what the police are going to do, when they're going to do it, and stay out of their way.
Yes, you have a right to film and record, but you can't expect a human being to act like a robot, with programming being like, beep boop boop, it says press, therefore, sorry sir, you're free to do whatever you want.
Especially when Antifa literally walks around, there's a photo of a guy, wearing press on his helmet, waving the Antifa flag.
He's not a journalist, he has no camera, they do it on purpose.
They also put walls of moms in front of them so that when the cops move in, they say, oh, they're attacking the moms.
adam crigler
How dare they?
tim pool
I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do.
adam crigler
Oh wait, it's not his police anymore.
It's the state police.
tim pool
I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do.
I am forming an organization called the Weak and Vulnerable Elderly Grandmothers.
The Weak and Vulnerable Elderly Grandmothers will be the name of our group.
It's going to be comprised of a bunch of 25-year-old, very big, burly, right-wing Trump-supporting men.
And then when they put on an event celebrating Trump and Antifa shows up, the media will be forced to report, Antifa threatens and attacks weak and vulnerable elderly grandmothers.
You see how it works?
adam crigler
I do, I like it.
Sneaky.
tim pool
I love it how they're like, we're anti-fascist, therefore like, you're dumb if you think that we're actually fascists.
And it's like, well apparently you're authoritarians and now you're being accused of being white supremacists, so what am I supposed to call you?
adam crigler
It's not a good look.
tim pool
They call themselves, like, the good guys, therefore you can never accuse them of wrongdoing.
But we're the good guys.
It's our name.
Duh.
Well, there it is.
Okay, fine.
The Weak and Vulnerable Elderly Grandmothers.
Antifa beats and chokes Weak and Vulnerable Elderly Grandmothers.
adam crigler
Wall of beanies.
tim pool
Wall of weak and elderly grandmothers.
Weak and elderly.
Alright, well.
That's basically Portland.
Let's talk about the election, man.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, this.
lydia smith
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Because we've got some funny... They're conspiracy articles, I guess?
But they're real.
adam crigler
Do you have his tweet?
The actual tweet?
tim pool
It's probably in here.
adam crigler
So I have... There you go.
Oh yeah, okay.
There it is.
tim pool
Wait, what?
Oh no, this is an old one.
It's an old tweet.
CNN, of course, they probably wouldn't pull up the actual tweet.
adam crigler
Of course they don't, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, he claimed without evidence the condom.
You know what, man?
I'm gonna tell you this right now.
The media is lying to you.
In 2012, the New York Times wrote, as absentee ballots expand, you know, it's like, I forgot, I'll paraphrase the headline, but it talks about the increase of fraud and error.
And in the article from eight years ago, it says, there's a higher margin of failure the more mail-in voting you do.
But that was during Obama.
Now that it's a serious issue and it's going to cause serious crisis in our election, they keep saying, Trump said without evidence.
How many times do I gotta tweet this?
The New York Times in 2012 said this.
NPR said it two weeks ago.
65,000 ballots didn't get counted because of no fault of the voter.
Because the post office screwed up.
adam crigler
You know, Jerry Nadler back in 2004 had this long speech about how mail-in voting and paper votes is super easy to fraudulent and be fraudulent.
tim pool
Sounds about right.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Nadler said that.
tim pool
And now the media is just relentless in I gotta be careful here.
What I mean by the media is, like, CNN is one of the most prominent news outlets.
They even claim they're the most trusted name in news.
adam crigler
Reliable sources.
That's what they want everyone to believe.
That's why they make it their slogan.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, Fox keeps saying, fair and balanced.
So, like, make sure you think that too.
But the reality is there's a ton of evidence right now that mail-in voting is going to be a disaster for this country.
100%.
It's already happening.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
The New York Times and NPR have recent articles talking about this.
Patterson, New Jersey, they cancelled 20% of the vote.
adam crigler
That's crazy.
tim pool
So Trump says...
That it's going to be the most... I have it right here.
adam crigler
I'll just read it.
This is verbatim.
With universal mail-in voting, in parentheses, not absentee voting, which is good, end parentheses, 2020 will be the most inaccurate and fraudulent election in history.
It will be a great embarrassment to the U.S.
And then the question is, delay the election until people can properly, securely, and safely vote?
tim pool
Question mark, question mark.
adam crigler
One more.
tim pool
There's three question marks.
Oh, well that seals the deal.
adam crigler
I mean, that's how big of a question it is.
tim pool
He didn't say who would, he didn't say he would, he didn't say it would be done.
It was a question.
adam crigler
A three question mark question.
tim pool
And he basically didn't even, it's not even a full sentence.
adam crigler
That's right.
tim pool
So that's the point, right?
Maybe he meant Congress should do it.
Congress can do it.
Maybe that's what he meant.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
No, but they all jump to the worst of the worst.
adam crigler
Trump demands that we delay the election and throw the whole American system out the window.
Yeah, he's the one trying to do that, Congress.
tim pool
Sure.
To be fair, CNN says Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so.
Technically.
This is interesting because I didn't see media like CNN or other outlets complaining about Directive 51 when it was signed by George W. Bush.
I'm going to pull up this here Wikipedia from National Security and Homeland Presidential Directive 51.
And it just says reception.
The signing of this directive was generally not covered by the mainstream U.S.
media or discussed by the U.S.
Congress.
While similar executive security directives have been issued by previous presidents with their texts kept secret, this is the first to be made public in part.
It's unclear how the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive will reconcile with the National Emergencies Act, a U.S.
federal law passed in 1967, which gives Congress oversight over presidential emergency powers during such emergencies.
The National Emergencies Act is not mentioned in the text of Directive 51.
Directive 51, to put it very, very simply, God emperor, Tim.
The... I'll just, I'll exaggerate. Emperor, I guess.
adam crigler
The God Emperor, Tim.
tim pool
God King.
adam crigler
If you're gonna say it, the God Emperor King Trump.
tim pool
Have you seen the thing they did in, what was it, in Poland, I think it was?
adam crigler
Yeah, oh yeah.
tim pool
The giant Trump with, like, the armor and the sword or whatever.
adam crigler
Well, after we talked about Mecha-Trump the other day, I was like, show me your art of Mecha-Trumps, and everyone's... I saw countless videos of that.
There's some Japanese animes that he's into.
He's like a Gundam Trump.
It's pretty cool.
tim pool
So check it out.
Directive 51 has broad language that basically says the president will oversee the coordination of all branches of government.
And it does say that it must be a constitutional government.
The goal, the literal goal of Directive 51 was that if, like, we got nuked, you know, 50 billion times or whatever, and the country was in shambles, then Directive 51 would try and restart the government and protect it.
adam crigler
Well, I think 50 billion nukes.
tim pool
Little ones.
Very little ones.
adam crigler
Tiny, tiny nukes.
tim pool
But still doing enough damage.
Death by 50 billion nukes.
adam crigler
Popcorn nukes.
tim pool
Yes.
Pop, pop.
You're like, oh no, what's happening?
adam crigler
Popcorn nukes.
tim pool
When this was signed, the collective left went insane.
Like all these articles were written saying, there's one specifically from Slate where they're like, this would give Trump the power to, I don't know, postpone an election.
Because it puts him in charge of coordinating all branches.
adam crigler
Couldn't he kick out all the incumbents also?
tim pool
I don't, I don't, I don't, I mean, arguably, depending on who you ask, yes.
It like, the powers under Directive 51 are like insane.
adam crigler
Or arrest all the people that have, I'm not gonna get into that.
tim pool
Here's the issue. So could Trump postpone the election?
Technically, under a national security directive. Now let me read for you the prerequisites.
They say, uh, Directive 51 signed by George W. Bush is a presidential
directive establishing a comprehensive policy on the federal government's structures and
operations in the event of a catastrophic emergency.
Such an emergency is defined as any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S.
population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or governmental functions.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
I think we've, we've already, we're done.
We're there.
adam crigler
Yeah.
It's already, it's already ready.
tim pool
So theoretically Trump could say COVID, 154K dead.
The GDP was down by like, you know, some people are saying it's only 10%.
Some are saying it's 33%.
You know, we've been very, very negatively impacted by this major global catastrophe.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Thus he could invoke, look, Not only that though, you gotta add into the whole, you know, India, now Australians are backing India, China and Pakistan are joining forces.
It's like, what's going on over there?
You know, something's about to pop.
tim pool
Yep, so you've got reports of surveillance drones seeing like China and Pakistan are forming ranks surrounding India for a pincer attack on both fronts, which would strain India, be very difficult for them to defend against.
Australia, I guess, announced, what did they announce?
adam crigler
They said that they would back India.
They got India's back.
tim pool
And we've already done, you know, we've sent out strike teams with Australia.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Into the South China Sea.
adam crigler
And we're buddies with India, too.
tim pool
Totally, they love Trump.
adam crigler
We got India's back, yeah.
tim pool
When Trump went to India and they had like, what was it, like 60,000 people cheering and screaming for him?
adam crigler
The whole stadium filled up.
tim pool
They love that man.
adam crigler
I'm sure he loved it, too.
tim pool
So there's a lot of reasons Trump could just be like...
I invoke these powers.
Now here's the big question.
They say it's not been constitutionally tested yet, and I think that's completely irrelevant.
How will you test something that claims to supersede the government?
adam crigler
Yeah, how do you test that?
Exactly.
This would be the time.
When we got cronies in the government all across the board doing crazy stuff.
tim pool
I don't think now is the time for a Directive 51.
No.
No, I think, I mean, but we're getting dangerously close because people don't realize how bad it's getting with the economy.
People don't get it, man.
You can't just print money.
You can't just keep printing money.
adam crigler
That's what they want.
tim pool
Now, interestingly though, I wonder It's really hard to know exactly what's gonna happen to the value of the dollar.
Could there be deflation or inflation?
Because the dollar becomes worthless, will people just start demanding ridiculous amounts of money?
Or, because there's no services available, people are willing to do jobs for dirt because they're desperate for work.
It's hard to know for sure.
adam crigler
Good point.
tim pool
You might have people being like, I'll take minimum wage now, which could theoretically deflate the currency.
But regardless, basically, everybody agrees.
Everybody agrees.
When you print money like crazy, you're starting to destabilize the economy and shatter confidence.
Everybody agrees.
adam crigler
We got the best UFOs.
tim pool
We got the best economic instability.
We got the best printing of $6 trillion.
And now they want to extend these benefits.
And that's going to lead to chaos.
The housing market's going to be in chaos.
The stock market's already been going ridiculous throughout COVID.
Up and down and up and down.
It's just been nuts.
So are we getting close to the point?
Here's the question.
Do you wait until after everything explodes to invoke 51?
Or do you invoke 51 before it explodes to prevent it from exploding?
adam crigler
That's a good question.
I mean, he shut down the flights from China, what, in February?
Middle of February?
End of February, was it?
And everyone was, like, ridiculing him and, you know, coming after him, and it's like... Now they're saying he didn't do enough.
Now, yeah, exactly.
tim pool
They were like, if he shut down travel a month before, he could have saved 50,000 lives, and it's like...
You complained when he did it when he did it.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
This is ridiculous.
adam crigler
You were trying to impeach him at the time.
tim pool
Yeah, they were.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's like, what?
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
So sick of the left.
tim pool
So here's the big question.
adam crigler
Democrats.
tim pool
If COVID is really as bad as they say it is, where?
adam crigler
Go on.
tim pool
It's really as bad as they say it is that it's causing all these, you know, like, it's the end of the world, basically, that we've all got to bunker down.
And it's what, we're on like day 134 or whatever of the 15 days to slow the spread.
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
You know.
tim pool
So I'll tell you what, at a certain point, maybe Trump says, I agree with the Democratic governors.
This catastrophe is, you know, is serious and we need an emergency.
I'm going to invoke 51 to ensure the continuity of government.
adam crigler
They're like, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, it's not that bad.
No, no, no, it's good.
No more masks, we're good.
tim pool
What they'll do is, listen, like they mention over on this article, what they'll do is Congress
will invoke the National Emergencies Act, which gives them oversight over presidential
emergency powers.
What will happen is they'll argue they have authority, Trump will argue he has authority, and then lines will form.
adam crigler
I got this.
Ready?
Can I get my foot?
Yeah.
unidentified
Civil war.
tim pool
Yeah?
adam crigler
Aliens.
unidentified
Civil war.
tim pool
Maybe both?
lydia smith
Yeah, why not both?
adam crigler
Maybe both!
lydia smith
And some popcorn.
adam crigler
Maybe that will be the final unifier.
We'll start running at each other and then the sky will light up and we'll be like, Whoa!
The UFO comes down and starts spinning in front of me.
tim pool
A Proud Boy and Antifa will link arms and go, let's do this!
And they'll turn and they're shooting.
The Proud Boy's got an AK and he's shooting at the aliens and Antifa are throwing mortars.
They all team up.
United against the alien threat.
Because the aliens, I guess, are some kind of political ideology that both oppose.
The aliens are liberals.
There you go.
So the far right and the far left are like, No!
Liberals!
Moderates.
You know what, man?
A lot of people have asked me when I tweeted about this, like, technically Trump could do anything he wants if he invokes these emergency powers.
I don't think he will because I think the true intent of 51 is like, When you wake up and, you know, the White House has been wiped off the map by some kind of crazy, you know, rod... What do they call them?
Rods?
Tungsten rods from God?
adam crigler
Yeah, the tungsten rods.
tim pool
It, like, slams in the White House.
Boom!
Like, D.C.
is gone and you're like, what's the government?
And then, whoever is, like, 87th in line of succession for the presidency invokes Directive 51 to, like, balance out the government because everything's been purged.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Like, the Division, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
So if you guys are familiar with the game, The Division, that's the storyline, basically.
In that game, in the first one, the virus wiped out just New York, right?
Or it hit everywhere.
adam crigler
I think the ground zero was New York.
It's been a long time since I've played that game, so I don't remember how widespread it was.
But in the second game, I mean, D.C.
was wiped out, too.
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, and there's like nothing left.
adam crigler
Yeah, they spread it on the bills and just released it on Black Friday.
tim pool
I think the real idea of what Directive 51 is, it's like 90% of the population is gone, the city is in ruins, and some dude in a backpack is like, I'm, you know, 37 millionth in line of succession for the presidency.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Because he's like, he worked in the mailroom in like a post office somewhere.
adam crigler
Duly elected postal worker though.
tim pool
He's a postal commissioner or something.
adam crigler
Duly elected.
tim pool
He's a postal ombudsman from like a small town in, you know, Arizona or something in a desert town.
And now he gets a phone call one day and they're like, I guess it's you?
We went down the list, 40 million people.
adam crigler
You are the designated survivor, sir.
Come with us, President.
tim pool
But I think the idea is it's supposed to give you a framework if the country has truly been destroyed.
adam crigler
I think it's more likely that, I mean, we're clearly divided right now.
There's this line that they're trying to drag through the sand and force everyone on either
side of it.
And it's like, vote for Trump or vote for us or you're cut out.
And it's like, if we actually do have to go to war with China, if this does escalate to
a world war, we can't be bickering amongst ourselves.
We need to unify and actually, and he would have to do that.
And that's what I think would be the more realistic way of it happening.
tim pool
I agree I got to do this because we got to stop this because look at look at what they're doing there's a Mike there's war going on my question is if You, if Trump was like, everybody, we have to come together, you know, China, it's bad.
We're going to war.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you were brought into a room and there was like an Antifa guy and they sat you down and they said, okay, Adam, okay, Mr. Antifa, we need to unify because of this shared threat.
How about you both agree to only stripping rights from some minorities?
Would you agree to that?
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, look, the progressives in California want to take away civil rights protections.
So we have to compromise.
So which civil rights protections are you willing to strip from marginalized people?
adam crigler
None.
tim pool
Well, looks like we're not gonna be able to unify, are we?
The polarization in this country is that extreme.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
It's pretty insane that there's a line of actually taking away the rights that they themselves fought for.
tim pool
Not them.
adam crigler
No, no.
The shoulders they're standing on.
That's who I'm talking about.
They're not giving due respect to those people, and that is a shame.
So answering that question, it's tough.
I don't want to take anyone's rights away.
They earned those rights.
We all earned those rights.
Maybe not me, but when I look at the flag, I know what was put into that flag to show where we are now.
tim pool
So with what's going on, one of the things I've often talked about is how they've been expanding The language of civil rights in a lot of states and cities, particularly around gender identity.
And one of the things I've often said is that, some people call it circle theory or horseshoe, the closer you get to one side it goes the other way.
Well, the more they try to expand civil rights, the more they actually take rights away.
Because there needs to be a limit to guarantee certain protections of certain groups.
So, the easiest way to explain it is, if they're going to say that you can play in any league you want, any sport league, based on how you identify, then the initial protections females had, you know, specifically, are removed because now anyone can play against anyone again.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So we start with, like, track, and men dominate it.
So they say, okay, we'll make a specific group just for women.
Then they say the definition of women has changed, and now biological males are women, therefore, well, then that protection is no longer existent.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Because now all you've done is had, you know, A-tier, B-tier, C-tier track teams.
adam crigler
Well, if I was a woman, and in sports, I would be pissed about that.
tim pool
And a lot, and they're suing, and a lot are, and they're challenging Tam O'Hara stuff.
But I bring this up specifically to say, under the guise of expanding civil rights, they've actually begun to remove civil rights.
And then they argue that, you know, but white females are privileged or whatever, and that they start changing the science and arguing about it.
And now we've literally come to the point where they're actually rescinding, they voted to strip away California's civil rights legislation from their constitution.
adam crigler
Craziness.
tim pool
Now, I don't want to keep rehashing that conversation.
The point is, as we get closer and closer to some kind of conflict, Trump delaying the election, whatever happens, is there a point at which you, all of you watching, would happily sit down with one of these progressives when they say, okay, let's compromise.
I vote that we take away those rights.
You're going to be like, whoa, no, absolutely not.
Well, you gotta compromise on something, right?
We gotta meet halfway if we're gonna come together to go up against a greater enemy.
adam crigler
Well, I don't think that's part of the problem.
I think we should absolutely keep bringing it up, keep talking about it, until it gets overturned for when we vote.
Because people don't, you even said it yourself, you talk to these people on the left that, you know, oh, you know about affirmative action?
Do you know how they're trying to repeal it?
No, what are you talking about?
tim pool
Well, they're not trying to repeal, what do you mean?
adam crigler
Well, they're trying to amend it, excuse me.
tim pool
They're trying to repeal, there's nothing to do with affirmative action.
adam crigler
I know it doesn't, but that's what they're calling it though.
They'll say, that's the problem.
tim pool
Would you be in favor of restoring affirmative action in California, yes or no?
adam crigler
It's like, define it.
Define restoring.
What exactly are you doing?
They're striking certain words from it.
tim pool
Here's how the polling would work.
The pollster would say, are you in favor of supporting the Affirmative Action Amendment to allow affirmative action in California?
They would say yes.
Then they would publish it saying 75% support stripping civil rights law from the Constitution.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
Because they don't know what What they're talking about.
tim pool
That's the problem.
What I'm specifically referencing is how the question is framed, specifically, so that you end up supporting something you otherwise, in any other terms, oppose.
adam crigler
Right.
So if we're sitting in the room, and I'm sitting with Mr. Antifa on the other side of the room, and they go, well, how about this?
What about this?
Would you agree to at least compromise and repeal, or not repeal, whatever they're doing?
What are they, just striking a couple sentences?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
Well, it's actually a big section.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's a chunk, but it should stay.
I'm willing to bet you put most people on the other side that are on the left in that room and you explain it all to them, most of them will be like, what?
No, I don't want that.
tim pool
And the problem is when I talk to my friends who are like hardcore progressive leftists and say something like, would you be in favor of this?
They're like, no, that's ridiculous.
When they look it up, all of the news outlets say it's affirmative action.
Exactly.
Again with the news outlets.
adam crigler
Exactly. But that's not... Again with the news outlets. I can't stand them.
tim pool
Right, right. But that's not the reason I'm bringing this up. The point I'm bringing up is
I don't believe that how widespread intersectionalism is.
There is a compromise because intersectionalism is incompatible with
liberalism.
And I mean true liberalism, like John Locke, the foundation of this country, the consent of the governed, freedom of speech, expression, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Intersectionalism is incompatible with American values.
Seems like it.
So one of the reasons why we have civil rights law is because the words of the Declaration of Independence, the words of the Constitution, forced it to occur.
You know, people argued, hey, if you think all men are created equal, then you have to get rid of slavery.
And people were like, yeah, he's right, absolutely.
adam crigler
And we did.
tim pool
And then you had really amazing people, Booker T. Washington, Frederick Douglass, who were like, about those freedoms you claim to support.
And then a bunch of people were like, that's a good argument, you're correct, we were wrong.
And then the bloodiest war ever was fought to end it.
So now we've ended up to the point where you even have the Supreme Court arguing you can't discriminate based on gender identity.
adam crigler
Well, no, you can't skip past Martin Luther King in the 60s and what they went through, the Civil Rights Act, because that is another step.
They're trying to take away that legacy.
And people don't realize that, and that's the key.
We can't just skip over that, because that's huge.
Because they weren't created equal at that point.
There was still segregation.
There was still discrimination.
The laws weren't.
The laws weren't, right, exactly.
And that's what affirmative action was.
It was stopping that.
It was making it clear that all men are truly created equal, period.
tim pool
And that men is a reference to human beings, not males.
adam crigler
Human beings, that's correct.
tim pool
Well, now they want to change all that.
They want to strip away those rights that were granted.
And again, I'm not trying to keep rehashing that argument.
I'm talking specifically about the context of war, conflict, civil conflict, international conflict.
How would you sit in a room with someone who says straight up, I do not believe in this country, I believe this country should be destroyed, and I think your values are evil?
adam crigler
Well, that's assuming that 50% are on this side and 50% are on that side.
Well, that I will never... I don't see that at all.
It's not though.
I know it's not.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
adam crigler
There's a small portion over here that feel that way and they can go live in another country if they want.
tim pool
And that's the exact same thing that happened during the revolution.
The mistake is that what's actually happening is zealous armed factions are the ones engaging right now.
And there are people in the CDC, at least 10%, who signed a letter demanding that they declare racism a public health emergency.
The army has an office of diversity.
That all of these major brands are supporting this, and whether or not the individuals do, they have bent the knee specifically to this.
Every major league sport now coming out bending the knee.
Literally bending the knee.
That's what's so hilarious about it.
They were like, get on your knees, and they said, okay, and did it.
And are there enough of the fringe far-left extremists to wage an insurrection of a legitimately crazy scale?
And I think most people will do nothing and say, leave me alone, and it'll come down to who wins.
And I hear this all the time from people saying that, like, you don't understand, Tim.
The military and the police would side with Trump in two seconds.
It'd be the shortest civil war in history, and I'm like, have you ever actually gone to these military bases and talked to some of these people?
I know some who say this have, and maybe their buddies in the military are, you know, more conservative, but I've met tons of cops Who would be like, I'll just do whatever I'm told.
We've seen it.
Two cops went and arrested gym owners because the Democratic governor said to.
So if Trump said, Directive 51 is being invoked because we're gonna go war with China and COVID, you know, destroyed this country, and then one Democratic governor instructs the National Guard or the police to do something unconstitutional or defy Trump, they'll do it.
It's not about whether or not there's enough fringe leftists, it's that we're already seeing it.
Kate Brown can deploy her secret police and no one cares.
So that's enough.
adam crigler
Well, there's a difference between where we're at now and what that would mean.
Because, you know, there's still some semblance of order.
And what you're suggesting, when he enacts, you know, Directive 51, order would go out the window.
And then suddenly they'd be like, let's go again.
Because everyone would hear him say it or if not I mean most I would assume most policemen pay attention to the news and you know actually watch Trump speeches so they would probably hear it and they would probably be like alright if we're going to war and then all of a sudden the governor calls and be like no don't worry about China worry about the Feds.
I have a feeling, again, I'm just using my own knowledge, my own assumptions of the general American public.
They're going to be like, OK, we know that we're going to war.
Why are we fighting each other still?
In New Jersey, especially when it's just a minority.
Like I know you said they've infiltrated everybody this far left there.
tim pool
It's not even about that, necessarily.
So I was at a gun shop and I was asking, like, what do I need to know in terms of laws for, like, you know, buying the gun, bringing it home.
And we got to talking and they told me a story about a woman who lived in Philadelphia.
For those that aren't familiar, where we live in South Jersey, it's like very, very close to the Philly metro, it's Philly suburbs, and about an hour from Philadelphia is Atlantic City on the east coast of South New Jersey, which is basically east coast Vegas.
Like a lot of the same restaurants, a lot of the same casinos, just, you know, east coast style.
This woman lived in Philadelphia, and Pennsylvania has better gun laws.
She had a concealed carry permit, and she made the mistake of not checking the laws, and she was like a new, you know, relatively new gun owner.
She was driving to Atlantic City to go to the casino, and she gets pulled over.
And the cop comes up to her, and he says, how are you doing ma'am?
And she says, because she was taught this at her school, to inform the officer that she's armed.
And she said to the officer that she was concealed carrying, and he says, okay ma'am, can you step out of the vehicle for me?
You're under arrest, felony charge, four year minimum.
Fortunately, I guess the NRA stepped in and got the charges dropped, and it was a big scandal.
That's the story they told me.
I don't know if it's true or not.
I bring it up because the Second Amendment is clear.
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
This woman was legally carrying a weapon as far as Pennsylvania was concerned, and she hopped over a bridge, and all of a sudden this cop said, I don't care about the Constitution or the laws.
You're under arrest.
Felony charge.
adam crigler
I don't equate all cops to any one story about any cop.
I refuse to do it.
I know cops personally.
tim pool
I have friends that are cops.
So when across the country they've been ticketing and arresting people for violating the edicts of governors that violate the Constitution, what do we call it?
adam crigler
They're following orders, sure.
But that's not the same as if the President said, we're about to go to war, I'm enacting this Directive 51, we gotta come together so we can go against this enemy, this threat, head on, together.
That's not where we are right now.
That's not where we've been.
People are afraid of this pandemic.
Or what was a pandemic.
You know, whatever it is.
It doesn't matter.
Now there's riots.
Now the cops are afraid to even be cops.
Because they're being attacked.
You know, this is an unprecedented time.
You know, you can't just, like, apply this blanket thing.
Like, sure, yeah, the story of the one cop who was like, I'm just following orders.
You're arrested.
tim pool
One cop?
adam crigler
You just told me a story about this woman in New Jersey.
tim pool
The McCloskeys.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay, exactly.
I know.
Sure, you can give me all these examples, but I still personally know cops that won't do that.
I'm not making anything up out of thin air.
tim pool
in every talking about how can you make up out of thin air what you believe a
cop would do when all the evidence is to the contrary and we have very little evidence of them actually standing
adam crigler
up for the Because we've been talking for months about the media and what they portray and what they give us, what stories they string along and push out into the open.
So of course we're hearing about all the bad cops.
I know, personally, good cops that would not do that.
tim pool
You're right.
adam crigler
I know that there's stories out there of good cops that are not mandating the masks.
They're like, we're not going to be the mask police.
tim pool
And there's the sanctuary cities in Virginia where the sheriffs were like, nope.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
tim pool
The point is, it will not be every cop saying, you're right, Trump, we're with you.
It's going to be split down the middle of a bunch of cops saying, I'll do whatever I'm told by my boss.
And a bunch of other cops saying, I'll do what the Constitution mandates.
So when Virginia tried to pass these laws that would seize guns, the sheriffs were like, not on my watch.
But then a bunch of other places, they're like, I'll just arrest you and charge you with a felony.
I don't care what the Constitution says.
There's a lot of cops who don't care about doing what's right, they care about having a job.
I mean, you look at Chicago, this is actually really funny.
When I was reading about the launching of these new units, they talked about, on Fox 32, disbanding one of their units because it had been engaging in robberies and home invasions.
So, like, those cops right away are, like, mob cops.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Those are, like, the worst of the worst.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I'm not saying that it doesn't exist.
I'm not saying that there's cops out there that won't fall in line, that won't go, OK, we're going to follow the president, who is the top dog as far as who runs the... He doesn't run the states.
tim pool
And he doesn't run the local departments.
adam crigler
Good point, good point.
tim pool
They're going to ask their boss what to do.
And what you also have to understand is that there are people who don't know anything about what's going on.
And so you'll meet a cop and you'll ask them, like, how do you feel about what's going on?
And they'll be like, I don't know, man, these riots are crazy.
Yet they'll still gladly arrest you for a felony charge for carrying a weapon in one of these states.
They call one of the seven evil states, I guess, that have these ridiculous restrictive laws that fly in the face of the Second Amendment.
There's arguments about what it means to be able to bear arms, but New Jersey literally doesn't allow you to bear arms.
unidentified
Well, they do, but you gotta jump through a bunch of hoops.
tim pool
No, you can't.
adam crigler
Oh, not at all, you can't?
tim pool
Not at all in New Jersey.
So the argument is that you're allowed to bear arms if... Well, no, no, actually no, you're literally not allowed to, period.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, the weapon's gotta be secured, separated from ammunition in its case, and you can only drive it to and from a range or hunting.
So they argue, but you can hunt, that means you're bearing, right?
That's not an... So, as long as you... No, the point, like, ultimately the point is...
When we see cops go and arrest gym owners in a small suburb because they wanted to have a few people exercising at their gym.
Like, that is the most insane thing I've ever heard.
adam crigler
That's why I don't want to be in this state anymore.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
I don't want to be in any blue state.
tim pool
So here's the issue.
We've heard from a ton of people when we talk about standing up.
They say, you don't understand, I have kids, I have to feed my family.
If Trump said he was invoking Directive 51 to secure the election because a war is about to break out and we can't have infighting and chaos, and then the governor of this state told these officers, you must, do you think they're going to be like, well this is the one time I'm going to say I don't care about my family?
No, they're going to say, I can't move, I don't have the money, I need food, and I'll do what I can to get food.
You take a look at places like Venezuela, where the military literally fire live ammo at teenagers because they're like, if I don't, I can't feed my family.
So it's better to be on the side of the government who guarantees me food than to fight with the people who would create a better government which would give everyone food.
You know what I mean?
I'm saying that we have no guarantees about what will happen, and there's a good reason to believe that people would split in various factions, and we have no idea who would be on whose side.
But to assume that people would just be like, there's the president, let's go for it, is- is just- I don't think there's any evidence for that.
In fact, there's evidence of the contrary.
adam crigler
Reclaiming my time?
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
Reclaiming my- excuse me, Tim?
tim pool
Yeah?
adam crigler
I'm- I- it's my- I'm reclaiming my time now, okay?
lydia smith
Take it away.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Uh, excuse me.
I'm reclaiming my time.
This is my time.
I don't have- my time is very limited.
Alright, so I'm gonna reclaim it.
Now, look, I don't have anything.
I just wanted to reclaim my time.
tim pool
Let's talk about Patreon.
Actually, I'm going to mention one more thing.
Someone sent me this in context to Directive 51.
It's called Rex84.
It's got a Wikipedia entry, and I'm going to give it that much.
I'm not saying it's true, but it's on Wikipedia.
Sure, Wikipedia is supposed to be at least somewhat of a decent information aggregator.
Arex 84 is short for Readiness Exercise 1984 was a classified scenario and drill developed by the United States federal government to detain large numbers of U.S.
citizens deemed to be national security threats in the event the president declared a national emergency.
The plan was first revealed in detail in a major daily newspaper by reporter Alfonso Charty in the July 5th, 1987 edition of the Miami Herald.
possible reasons for such a roundup were reported to be widespread opposition to a US military
invasion abroad, such as if the US were to directly invade Central America.
To combat what the government perceived as subversive activities, the plan also authorized
the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional
levels, according to Professor Diana Reynolds.
Existence of a master military contingency plan, of which RECS-84 was a part, garden
plot and similar earlier exercise, Lantern Spike, were originally revealed by journalist
Ron Reidenhower, who summarized his findings in an article in Counterspy.
They go on to say that contingency plans by the U.S.
government for rounding up people perceived by the government to be subversive or a threat to civil order have existed for many decades.
For example, from 1967 to 1971, the FBI kept a list of over 100,000 people to be rounded up as subversives dubbed the addicts list.
This is also on Wikipedia too.
This is how you get conspiracy theorists, because the government has plans for this stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I remember, like, man, 15 years ago, Alex Jones ranting about the FEMA facilities that are prepared to take in a bunch of subversives and stuff.
I don't know a whole lot about it.
I just knew the guy used to rant about it all the time.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
These could be... I don't know what their source is for this.
You know, maybe nobody maintains these.
What is this?
The Norton Company.
What are their sources on all this stuff?
The Intercept.
Okay, well, The Intercept is real.
Rex 84.
What's their source for this?
I don't know what that is.
Archive.
What's their first source?
Wow, they have three sources.
adam crigler
I mean, oh, so that's old school.
tim pool
South End Press, South End Press.
adam crigler
That's how it used to be, right?
lydia smith
Better than most journalists.
adam crigler
So my fear about this kind of stuff, and even with Directive 51, there was wording in both of them that said the federal government and in Directive 51, the president can enact it, but then the Congress can enact it also.
and kinda check the other one, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
In 51?
adam crigler
Yeah, didn't...
tim pool
In 51 it says...
No, no, the National Sec...
The National Emergencies Act.
adam crigler
Oh, oh, okay. It was a different act.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
But it's basically the same thing, but for Congress instead of the executive branch.
Okay.
tim pool
Except...
if the president declared that he was the coordinator above all branches,
then they're gonna be like, We have the power.
And you say, no, you're not.
I have the power.
And the executive branch is the branch that actually deals with going after, like enforcing laws and things like this.
So if there were people loyal to Trump, they'd be like, okay, this is the important factor, man.
Matt Taibbi wrote about this, the counting heads phase and the scenario he describes.
You'll see two black cars speeding as fast as possible through Washington, D.C.
They'll both crash, and then people jump out, run full speed to the D.C.
Police Bureau, and yell at the cop, arrest this man!
To the other guy.
And that's when the authority is challenged.
The police are going to be like, uh... And eventually they're going to have to choose who they're going to actually arrest.
adam crigler
This is sounding an awful lot like Tinfo Wars.
tim pool
But these things are real.
I'm not talking about, you know, this is Matt Taibbi's writing.
What people need to realize is that it's one thing when everything's calm and normal to be screaming about aliens and all this other stuff.
It's another thing when we're experiencing an economic shutdown, 130 some odd days, massive economic collapse, potential war with another country.
We are in unprecedented times.
adam crigler
Yes we are.
tim pool
At this point, to speculate as to whether or not the president will declare a national
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
emergency to enact emergency executive authority is not outside of the realm of possibility.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
In fact, I would argue it's very likely.
adam crigler
Well, especially when his direct opponent also is, I don't know if...
Can we even talk?
I mean, the whole Obamagate thing, it's pretty insane with the actual proof that they have of them colluding to bring him down.
It's insane.
tim pool
And Bill Barr has just said he will not wait until after the election to reveal the Durham report, the investigation.
adam crigler
And there's two people investigating the whole thing too.
tim pool
It's very possible that in October, Durham releases his, or maybe even September, releases his report and it says Obama was involved, Biden was involved, these are criminal actions, there's gonna be indictments, all of this crazy stuff which triggers a massive wave, riots, whatever, who knows?
Maybe not.
It's also possible the Durham investigation says, you know what, nothing happened.
I really don't think so, considering the confirmed report that's come out, but maybe?
adam crigler
I mean, I still hold to the fact that I think Biden is going to retire at the end of August.
I think the DNC is going to, because it's not over yet, once there's like a day or two left, they're going to be like, well, Biden is actually slipping.
You all see, he's an old guy.
We're going to have to let him go and he's going to retire.
So good on you.
Thanks for holding the place while we've done, while this country has been ravaged.
Thanks.
tim pool
Let's, let's, I'll make one very important point.
Over the past almost four years, wow, longer than four years, man, when the start of the Russia allegations against Trump, you know, in 2015, I think it was, the mainstream media has been telling us that our president was secretly colluding with Russia to subvert our government.
That is one of the most insane things I have ever heard.
Going so far, MSNBC actually hosted a guy who said Trump may have been, you know, a Russian asset, he believes, since 1984.
Wow.
Well, but he was like, maybe not, but it's like, why would you even entertain?
That's ridiculous.
adam crigler
Yeah, maybe not.
Wait, what?
Either you have proof or you don't, saying something like that.
That's insanity.
Especially when they've proved that all of this is BS.
Go ahead.
tim pool
Let's weigh the conspiratorialness of the claims.
Donald Trump, according to Jonathan Chait, He believes was an asset of the Russian government since the 1980s.
Very conspiratorial.
The president may enact a national security provision to defend the country because we've had mass death and economic collapse.
Okay, that's not a conspiracy.
That's like, that's just, will he do it or won't he?
He can.
adam crigler
Because it's actually an order that Bush put into place.
tim pool
Whether or not it's constitutional.
And there have been others, and apparently a bunch of the information pertaining to Directive 51 is secret.
You can't read it.
So it like references annexes, like refer to these annexes and then it's like, oh, but those are confidential.
You won't know.
Yup.
And I'm not surprised because it's supposed to preserve the country.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, all of this serious talk has gotten me very eager to talk about something, you know, a lot less serious.
Patreon losing.
lydia smith
Ooh, yeah.
tim pool
Now, while we can talk about real war and chaos and conflict in China, let's talk about culture war.
For those that aren't familiar, Patreon is a subscription service.
Most of you probably heard of it.
It is a big tech company run by far leftists.
They believe all this crazy intersectional stuff, like most of these companies do.
And they banned a bunch of moderates, conservatives, you know, right individuals.
I don't know exactly what to call these people because I'm not gonna use false labels on people I don't know.
They banned them for hate speech.
Some of these were completely, in my opinion, BS.
Notably, Sargon of Akkad.
You may know Sargon.
So he had a Patreon account.
I believe he was getting around $10,000 per month from his patrons.
adam crigler
Pretty solid.
tim pool
Yeah, people choosing to give him money.
Well, some activists dug up a, like, nine-month-old livestream of him at the time.
It was very old.
And at, like, the two-hour mark in a four-hour stream, he used the N-word, ironically, to insult people he thought were racist in a way that he thought would offend them.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Someone sent that clip to Patreon and they banned his account without warning.
And they had already promised before they would never ban people without warning, right?
They were supposed to be like, hey, don't do this again.
So it wasn't on Patreon.
It didn't violate their rules, but they banned him anyway, destroying his income.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Now, another user of Patreon, Owen Benjamin, who according to the Daily Dot, they call him far-right, they call him whatever, I don't know any- I really don't know anything about the guy.
He got banned for hate speech.
Except he filed an arbitration claim against Patreon, and so did a whole bunch of his- he told his patrons to do the same thing.
This would have made Patreon front millions of dollars in legal costs.
So Patreon sued his patrons.
adam crigler
Wait, wait, wait.
Before they sued back, didn't they change their TOS?
Yes.
tim pool
They changed their terms on January 1st.
adam crigler
So they all got... Patreon got sued.
tim pool
No, no.
They got told there was going to be an action against them.
adam crigler
Oh, okay, okay.
So they were prepared.
Changed their TOS.
tim pool
And guess what?
The new term said that if you stay on this platform, then you agree to the terms.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Which was like unenforceable.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So then on the 6th, apparently they filed arbitration claims.
Patreon tried arguing they have to pay the costs according to the terms of the website.
They argued, no we don't because we're making claims against you based on the terms as we signed up.
Patreon filed a lawsuit against the fans to stop them because this will destroy Patreon.
And Patreon lost that motion.
So now we are entering what may be one of the greatest Get Woke, Go Broke stories of all time.
Patreon trying to enact these woke social justice rules may result in a massive multi-million dollar Silicon Valley startup going belly up But it also means all of the left-wing channels on the platform that rely on Patreon for their income will lose all of their income overnight.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
This is going to be like...
Man, I don't even know how to describe it.
There's a big battle going on, there's a massive bridge, a collapse, and everyone falls off of it.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, because there's, there's like, you know, right-wing people use Patreon, too.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
This is a tweet from Mike Cernovich.
He says, As update, Patreon lost.
The judge applied well-established law and denied Patreon's motion,
cited against them in their lawsuit against Owen Benjamin fans.
Patreon will now be forced to arbitrate 100 plus claims and pay upfront fees of up to $10,000 per arbitration.
unidentified
Ooooooooh.
tim pool
And then, to drive that spike straight in, Cernovich says, Sargon of Akkad could end Patreon if he had his followers file actions similar to the one Owen Benjamin fans did.
That's it.
That would be the end of Patreon.
unidentified
Do it.
tim pool
And Will Chamberlain added Lauren Southern and Milo too.
Now there's one very important point.
Mike Cernovich and Will Chamberlain are both lawyers.
unidentified
Oh!
tim pool
So I'll take their word for it.
adam crigler
I didn't know that, he's a lawyer, okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Or both of them are lawyers.
tim pool
Sargon had thousands of fans on Patreon.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And most of them, it's my understanding, cancelled their accounts when he got banned.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
So you can't even try and argue the new terms apply to them.
adam crigler
Right, because they left.
tim pool
Because they left immediately before the new terms were enacted.
Wow.
Every single one of those people could now file arbitration for, I guess what Owen Benjamin's fans said, was tortious interference.
adam crigler
I mean, even if they are still on Patreon, couldn't they?
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
Because of this precedent?
tim pool
Technically.
So, I'm not going to pretend like I know, I'm not a lawyer.
adam crigler
Right, okay.
tim pool
But my understanding is that Patreon was served notice before they changed the rules that they would be getting these claims Okay, so now if everyone came forward they would say you're only coming forward now that you know however It's and it's it still might go through right because the the ruling I guess is you can't change now that patreon knows they're liable for banning these people mm-hmm
The judge would probably be like, you only changed this because you knew you slighted all these people and don't want to get sued.
You can't do that.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
No, he did say that, isn't that what the judge said to him?
tim pool
Owen Benjamin's fans gave notice before they changed the terms.
adam crigler
Right, okay.
tim pool
So if now you file the claim, they'd say they had every chance to do so beforehand, like Owen Benjamin's fans, they didn't.
It's only after this that they decide to do it.
That's not fair to us.
But I still think they might lose on the grounds that if I sign up to a site and I agree to terms, you can't arbitrarily send me an email saying the terms have changed and you agree to it.
adam crigler
Well, especially because Sargon got cancelled with no warning.
In the middle of the night, you're done.
Cut out.
tim pool
All your income lost.
And they had done this to other people like Lauren Southern.
The important point is, again, not being a lawyer, I would personally question the legality Of me signing up for a website and it says, do you agree to these terms?
Yes.
And then a month later, getting an email that says, oh, by the way, the terms have all changed.
You're on the hook to pay our fees.
And if you use the website, you agree.
No, I don't think that works.
I don't think you can do that.
I think you would need to have a new thing appear saying, hey, before you come in here, the new terms, you must agree to these.
I'm not sure exactly what Patreon did, but my understanding is they sent an email out saying, by the way, if you're still using the site after January 1st, you agree to these terms.
And the judge was like, nah, get out of here with that, you can't do that, nah.
People signed up to these terms, those are the terms you wrote, this one's on you.
So here's what happens.
adam crigler
I like that judge.
tim pool
You got all these Sargon fans, Milo, Loren Southern.
Now, I don't know if Loren Southern's fans, you know, will do it.
They probably will.
I don't know if Loren Southern will care to be involved in something like this.
She recently started making videos again, but I don't know if she's going to be as heavily culture war as she used to.
I think Milo, Yiannopoulos, and all of his fans are going to just torpedo.
It's going to be like open season.
And I'm pretty sure Sargon's fans as well.
This is the biggest opening in the culture war for a massive counter move against Silicon Valley Big Tech.
unidentified
Let's do it!
it. Well, I'm just gonna let's. It's that, they can do it.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, I, I, yeah, I can't either, but if you're, if, if this applies to you,
call now.
SJ and W lawyers will help hook you up.
tim pool
No, no, they'll do it.
Patreon's calling SJ and W. No, I know.
I listened to this lawsuit, the case.
Patreon was arguing to the judge and Owen Benjamin's lawyers to the judge.
And the judge, right away, was like, you know, you're gonna lose this.
But he decided to consider some of the facts.
Basically, what Patreon's lawyers said I'm pretty sure they said it essentially verbatim.
If you side with them, we will be forced to front millions of dollars.
adam crigler
They straight up said that?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
But if you do that, we're gonna have to pay for what we did.
Yup.
tim pool
Uh, yeah.
adam crigler
Throw the book at him!
tim pool
Get woke, go broke.
To be fair, there is a sympathetic argument there of being like, we really, really screwed
up.
They probably don't have a claim, but our company will cease to exist if you side with
them.
adam crigler
Get woke, go broke.
tim pool
Period.
And the judge said, precedence.
adam crigler
Did he say get woke, go broke?
tim pool
No.
The judge's stance is probably more like, I can sympathize with the fact your company's about to cease, it will no longer exist after this, but the law matters to more than just you.
You made a mistake.
Now you can live with it.
I wonder what's going on right now at Patreon.
They're probably all panicking.
I'll tell you this, man.
I think the founder of Patreon, like Jack Dorsey, like Zuckerberg, these people are...
Evil.
You know, I hate using that word, but I use it because they will look into your eyes and lie.
Sweet, sweet lies.
All the time.
adam crigler
So the term sweet nothings?
tim pool
They won't tell you the truth.
adam crigler
Almost literal nothings.
tim pool
So, Jack Conte is the CEO of Patreon.
So he banned Lauren Southern.
Lauren Southern was on a boat in the Mediterranean, and he said that she crossed the line when she said to get in front of some NGO rescue vessel.
It's a very long- it's a long story.
I talked to him on the phone and I was in Vegas at the time and I was like, I was tweeting about how I'm going to end my Patreon and people didn't know how much money I was making on Patreon at the time because the numbers were private.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And so people could only speculate based on the amount, but I had a few, I had several thousand patrons.
So I ended up talking to the CEO and he told me a bunch of things that were just, in my opinion, not true.
adam crigler
Okay.
Like what?
tim pool
Um, well, I can't, I'm not gonna, it's a private conversation, you know.
Oh, you tease.
I can't, well, I'm not.
adam crigler
No, that's fine.
No, no, I get it.
tim pool
If, if I go around, you know, spilling the details of every private conversation, I'd never have another conversation again.
adam crigler
I understand.
tim pool
But he did basically say things about Lauren Southern's case, which I did, I think I did talk about that.
I was talking to him.
I was like, you realize you literally described what she, he was like, if she did these things, we wouldn't have banned her.
And I was like, ah, that's literally what she did.
Well, I mean, I'm like, no, no, no.
Listen, the problem is he banned Lauren without notice.
adam crigler
The same as Sargon, OK.
tim pool
Right.
And so once he banned Lauren, he was like, she can appeal.
But then everyone basically said, we're going to quit because we can't risk our income being terminated without notice.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And so he was like, from now on, we'll give warning.
And then Sargon got erased overnight.
And that's when there was a major revolt.
Dave Rubin left, Jordan Peterson left, Sam Harris.
Like, Sam Harris is one of the biggest podcasts in the world, and he was like, I'm out.
I'm not gonna play these games because if they decide to terminate my income, I can't take that risk.
And now I got bad news for all of you who still use Patreon.
I warned you.
I did.
I said, it's only a matter of time before you face the brunt of what's happening here.
Now, likely, you'll be banned.
And I told a bunch of people, especially moderates, conservatives, and, you know, even not necessarily political channels that were anti-SJW.
And I said, you need to get off Patreon now.
They have shown complete willingness, on more than one occasion, to terminate the income of somebody without notice.
And that's not fair because the agreement I have is with my patrons, not with Patreon.
Why are they getting involved in politics?
Well, guess what's gonna happen now.
adam crigler
They're going broke.
tim pool
If this really is the end of Patreon, if, If Sargon, all of his thousands of patrons, file arbitration claims, and they have to front the bill, Loren Southern and Milo, we're talking about... If Cernovich is saying that a hundred plus claims is what they're facing, and he said in a live stream it could be fifteen to twenty million dollars, because it's not just the ten... it's twenty five hundred to ten thousand dollars
Oh, for their own, right.
for the cost of arbitration plus their own legal fees for their lawyers.
adam crigler
Oh, for their own, right.
tim pool
He said it could be $15 to $20 million up front.
Multiply $100 by $10.
adam crigler
And then if they lose...
tim pool
Well, they might not lose. That's the issue.
But the point is... They still have to pay for the legal fees.
Right.
If 100 people will result in $15 million in costs, what will 3,000 people result in?
Patreon going bankrupt overnight.
Now here's the best part.
Based on what we've seen from other big networks that act as intermediaries between creators and their money, I'd be willing to bet Patreon will steal the money, in my opinion, will take the money from their creators to cover the cost of legal fees.
Otherwise, their company doesn't exist anymore.
So I'll put it this way.
Patreon makes very little money.
They can show on their books ridiculous sums of money, because when everyone donates, it goes to Patreon, then Patreon has this massive bank account, and then pays it all out and goes right back down.
However, if all of the money comes in at once, and Patreon is holding, you know, $100 million, they have to pay out $99 million, right?
Because that's money supposed to go to the creators from their fans.
But Patreon's facing this major lawsuit.
They're holding the money.
First, they're going to pay their legal fees.
All of that money they're holding will disappear, and then they'll tell the fans, sorry.
It happened before.
adam crigler
That sounds so brutal.
Oh, it happened already somewhere?
tim pool
With Patreon?
No, a multi-channel network.
These are big companies where YouTubers will sign up and YouTube AdSense goes to the company first and then to you.
One of these companies went out of business.
And so, when all the money from YouTube went to their company, and they filed, and they declared bankruptcy or whatever, I don't remember what they did, but they were shutting down, none of the YouTubers got their money.
Because the money was the company's.
And the company considered the money owed to the creators as liabilities that they could not pay out.
So they used the YouTubers' money to pay their salaries, and I believe, in the best of my, you know, I'm very careful, we're dealing with legal matters.
So, in my understanding of the case, and I could be wrong about this, so fact check, was that they took the money to cover their own losses, and then all the YouTubers were like, yo, where's our money?
It's gone.
So what do you think Patreon's gonna do when they're faced with something similar?
They're gonna need to find very quickly, I mean right now, 15 million dollars, which I doubt they have.
Who knows?
Maybe, but I doubt it.
Maybe they'll find some venture capitalists to try and save them, or buy them.
And they're gonna have to cover the cost of all of this.
Nah, I don't think it's possible.
adam crigler
I think they're going under, man.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
adam crigler
The dominoes are starting to crumble for the get woke, go broke.
tim pool
It seems too good to be true, though.
adam crigler
True.
tim pool
Good point.
That Patreon would collapse because of this.
But I'll tell you right now, Patreon lost.
adam crigler
They did.
tim pool
They're going to have to front the legal fees.
And here's the best part.
adam crigler
That judge, props to that judge, flicked the first domino down.
tim pool
Well, he's just help holding the law.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
So here's the thing.
Don't get your hopes up.
Other people have pointed out that it's going to be a big waste of money for everyone involved to file against Patreon.
And then, you know, it's, it's, you've always got to take these things with a grain of salt because I'm sure there's going to be some lefty lawyer who's going to argue why Patreon will be fine.
But here's my assessment.
Based on Patreon's own lawyer saying to the judge, if we lose, we will be on the hook for millions of dollars and them losing, I would bet that Cernovich is right.
adam crigler
I think so, too.
tim pool
He's a lawyer, too, so I'll defer to him.
But I heard the Patreon lawyer say it.
We will have to front millions of dollars if we lose this.
adam crigler
That's a lot of dollars.
tim pool
So Patreon was trying to argue that this was an attack against them, that Owen Benjamin's fans knew that if they filed because of this law, California would force them to pay the costs.
adam crigler
Oh, you mean hold them accountable for what they illegally did against their own terms of service by booting these people?
tim pool
I don't know about illegally, because they could boot whoever they want.
The issue is, so it's like, these people want their $20 back.
And so they're going to arbitration over it, demanding it.
adam crigler
And that means they have to- Give me my $20 back that I gave to Owen Benjamin.
tim pool
And then you severed the contract and now where's my, you know, my goods aren't gonna come, right?
adam crigler
I see, yeah.
tim pool
Apparently there's another big factor here in that by changing the terms of service to try and prevent these suits, it was- See, now that's dirty.
Right.
May have been illegal, I'm not sure.
Again, not a lawyer.
But Cernovich did a livestream about this where he said it was unconscionable or something, you know, like as a legal term.
adam crigler
Yeah, okay.
tim pool
I can't remember exactly what he said.
adam crigler
Dirty.
That's the lawyer talk for, it was dirty.
tim pool
Trying to trick people into thinking they don't have a way to take legal action against you.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
We'll see what Sargon, Lauren, and Milo do.
But more importantly, it doesn't matter what they do.
It matters what all of the Patreons who canceled their accounts last year do.
Because if they all decide, I want my money back because I spent money and didn't get what I wanted because Patreon did this, Patreon owes me that money back.
adam crigler
And Patreon's footing the bill.
So if you're one of those people, I mean, if I was one of those people and I gave money to Sargon, You still have to file the claims, though, which might cost money.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, so apparently only a hundred or so people from Owen Benjamin's fanbase did this.
Again, like, I don't know a lot about the guy.
I know that people are gonna try and claim I'm defending him.
I don't know who he is, okay?
adam crigler
Owen Benjamin?
tim pool
Yeah, apparently he's like an offensive comedian or something.
adam crigler
I don't know who he is.
tim pool
Daily Dot called him alt-right.
I don't know anything about the guy.
I have to be careful because the media likes to lie a lot, but that's what they've said.
The point is, how many people would be willing, would be bored enough, to actually do it?
I'd be willing to bet enough.
adam crigler
I was just gonna say, there's not a lot of jobs right now.
unidentified
A lot of people are stuck at home, doing nothing.
tim pool
Well, you know what the crazy thing is?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
I don't—based on everything I've heard about this, I do believe it may sound too good to be true, because even if you're gonna lose in arbitration, you can still force them to front the costs.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
So what if you have—what if you know you're gonna lose?
That's another thing that Patreon's lawyers argued, that these people know, once it goes to arbitration, they have no case.
But they still have to pay the fees up front.
So, could anybody just file a claim, even if they have no case?
I guess there's gotta be some kind of standing.
adam crigler
Yeah, I mean, I can't do it.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
I've never been on Patreon, so... What about all of my patrons?
What about me personally?
I lost a bunch of patrons because when they banned Lauren, people got mad.
When they banned Sargon, people got mad.
But then once Sam Harris left, and Dave Rubin, and Jordan Peterson, Banning Sargon lost me patrons because Sargon and I have some subscriber overlap.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But then once it was Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, and Dave Rubin, all of a sudden I ended up losing like a massive portion of my patrons.
And I had no choice but to set up alternatives like, hey wait, go here, I'll be here, I know you guys want to leave Patreon.
So I ended up losing a lot.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, so is Patreon on the hook for that?
Arguably, no, but those people who canceled from my account and from other accounts because of this, maybe.
I wouldn't know.
Anyway, we'll see how that plays out, but for now, we will go to Super Chats.
If you have not already, make sure you smash the like button.
adam crigler
Yeah, smash that like button.
tim pool
You were chillin'?
adam crigler
Yeah, I'm chillin'.
Well, I was thinking, I was excited about Super Chats.
I'm like, oh, Super Chats, yeah.
tim pool
Smash the like button.
adam crigler
But smash the like button, yeah.
tim pool
Subscribe.
adam crigler
I'll spin the UFO for you if you smash the like button.
tim pool
And hit the notification bell.
Also, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.
You can follow at AdamKrigler, Instagram, Twitter, Parler.
And you can follow at SourPatchLids, L-Y-D-S, on Twitter and Parler.
But let's jump over to some of those super chats.
Turkey Face says there are many stories of legal PA gun carriers getting arrested in New Jersey.
Luckily, Governor Christie pardoned most of them.
The Hearing Protection Act was supposed to include national carry reciprocity, but haven't heard much of the act since the Vegas shooting.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Yep.
VillaMusicDude says, did you guys hear the incident with Austin Tong?
The University of Fordham banned him from campus and charged him with a hate crime, bias, intimidating threats for posting a pro 2A pic on Instagram and calling people hypocrites when Dave Dorn died in the riots.
adam crigler
Wow.
I think I did hear about this.
He was just standing with like a, I don't know, an AR-15 or something.
lydia smith
Yeah, he was like at the range or something.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Franklin Troll says, Hey gang, I'm back.
Had to take a couple days off to unplug from the nonsense.
Did you see Tucker Dunk on Republican Jim Jordan for taking donations from Google after grilling the CEO for tech bias?
Reform 230.
Yup.
And, you know, we were just talking about Mike Cernovich.
He's also tweeted that Republicans are going to lose badly in November and they deserve it.
We'll see if he's right.
We'll see if he's right.
Maybe he's wrong.
Bryce Jones says, Just got here, but what are your thoughts on the censorship of the doctors talking about COVID-19?
Love the channel.
Keep it up.
Interesting how fast this video was taken down, but they can't take down other more offensive content.
I'm choosing my language carefully on that super chat.
Yep.
So the crazy thing about the banning of those doctors was that Breitbart was just live streaming a press conference and Facebook banned a news organization doing it, filming a press conference.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
You don't know what the doctors are going to say.
adam crigler
Of actual doctors.
tim pool
And Breitbart had no idea what they were going to say.
It's like, here's a bunch of doctors talking about, you know, COVID.
Let's go film them.
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
They all came to Washington, D.C.
to, you know, share their information with the public.
Here they are.
tim pool
That's crazy.
News organizations can't function on these platforms.
And the big news organizations are cheering for this.
They're cheering for their own demise.
Well, you know what?
They deserve it.
Paul McConnell says, I was peacefully protesting.
They tried to steal me away.
That's a reference to some Antifa guy who was seen on camera fanning flames at the courthouse, and then later was interviewed, like, they tried to steal me.
It's like, well, maybe if you weren't burning and destroying things.
adam crigler
What, he didn't even get arrested?
tim pool
I don't know.
I don't know.
I guess not.
They tried.
He didn't.
Paul McConnell says, congrats on 500K.
Let's all peacefully riot about it.
adam crigler
Yes, peacefully riot.
Thank you, everybody, for following and subscribing.
Seriously.
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
I've been making fun of New Jersey for 20 years.
I'm dead serious.
in the air everyone is getting snappy and i feel just like animals we are
sensing danger on the horizon i certainly think so think so which is why
we are leaving new jersey i sense it i mean not only that new jersey is an
adam crigler
awful place i agree it's been i've been making fun of new jersey for 20 years i'm dead serious 20 years i've been
making fun of actually 25 years i've been making fun of new jersey
because i went to high school in outside of philadelphia but on the pa side
tim pool
Well, now we can get out.
adam crigler
And everybody made fun of Jersey.
tim pool
Also, it's not even necessarily Jersey.
I don't want to be near an urban metro.
adam crigler
That's a good point, too.
tim pool
I don't know what's going to happen, man.
Some people have said to me, ah, it's an election year, you know, and I'm like, I don't know if we've had global pandemics and the U.S.
passport becoming basically void in most countries on other election years in my lifetime.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe we've just been complacent.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
But I think it's going to get crazy.
adam crigler
Or maybe there's people that are really afraid of what Donald Trump's going to do to them if he gets elected again.
unidentified
Just saying.
tim pool
Anthony Sensi says, proud of you, Adam.
Tim, you alright too.
I will take alright.
Good job, Adam.
adam crigler
Thank you very much.
I'm gonna take that.
tim pool
Vesidia says, I can't wait till the moment when mainstream media tries Kayleigh McEnany over mail-in voting, and she pulls out an actual issue of the New York Times from 10-7-2012.
I tried to find one to send, no luck yet.
That's the, that's, it's October, I believe, yeah, October 7th, 2012.
Absentee ballot causes problems.
The more we embrace mail-in voting, the more problems we get.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
The New York Times.
Apparently they're not evidence.
adam crigler
But you know what?
Don't worry.
It's in her binder.
lydia smith
Yeah, for sure.
I had two examples just from today.
tim pool
Two examples of voter fraud?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, four guys in California, in L.A., voter fraud scheme.
lydia smith
Trying to take advantage of homeless guys, yeah.
tim pool
Wow, man.
lydia smith
What a mess.
tim pool
CO says, send me your beanies, both of you.
I will not.
lydia smith
No way.
adam crigler
I can't find this anymore.
tim pool
MacArthur says, keep up the good work.
I'm definitely more of a conservative than all of you, but I like what I'm hearing.
Yeah, because I think if you actually care about America, it doesn't matter if you're a real liberal or conservative.
What matters is that there are people who hate America right now, and they're literally in our cultural institutions saying they hate America and lying about it.
Lying about our history.
Philip Backus says, it is no longer about police brutality, but having full-blown revolution.
I mean, their signs literally say revolution, nothing less.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Jesse Tincher says, voted Democrat the last three elections.
But because of the Democrats acting crazy and supporting riots, I'm voting Republican for the first time in my life.
Great show, guys.
Keep up the real news.
Appreciate it.
adam crigler
We're doing what we can.
tim pool
Doopdeboop says, 1776 donation.
Tim helped me wake up in January 2019 with Covington Catholic.
Thank you.
Trusted you with objectivity since.
Also, I think whoever wins in November, the other side will not accept it.
Thoughts?
P.S.
Adam and Lydia, love you too.
You are correct.
No one's gonna accept it.
No one.
It's gonna be nuts.
adam crigler
It's gonna be nuts, I know.
tim pool
That's why I'm like, we need to get out of the metro, urban metro, before November.
And we will be.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Very soon.
Also, I've been, so COVID actually jammed us up.
We've been trying, I've been trying to expand for a long time before we even started the show, and because of one sale of a building fell through, then COVID, COVID happened, and it was like... Well, and we started the show, and you work like a madman, so your free time is very...
adam crigler
Slim.
tim pool
But when we started the show, I was still having property searches and then COVID hit and everything just froze up.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And a bunch of states were like, you can't actually come and look at properties right now.
adam crigler
Oh, that's right.
tim pool
And so it's kind of like, I guess we'll just stay and do our thing for now.
It was supposed to be temporary and, you know, now we're all, you know, about to get a bigger facility.
Let's see here.
Brony Ninja says, I'm going to have a subscribe button body pillow made and send it to y'all.
I'm also commissioning my sister to draw some art of y'all.
You three make politics make sense to me, except when Tim says a bunch of alphabet soup groups give the good work.
Yep.
A-T-F-F-B-I-D-E-A.
Acoustic Theory says Adam puts Maga Beanie on again at 30k likes.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
30,000 likes right now, Adam will put on the Maga Beanie.
adam crigler
Yeah, I'll go get it.
I'll go get the Maga Beanie and put it on.
tim pool
We're at 60% of the way there right now.
adam crigler
You smash that like button at 30k likes.
I'll get up right now and go get my Maga Beanie and put it on.
Guaranteed.
tim pool
How about we make that a rule?
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
Every time we hit 30k likes, Adam puts on a MAGA beanie.
adam crigler
Alright.
tim pool
That's awesome.
unidentified
That way if you want the beanie on... If you want me to put the MAGA beanie on, I mean, I will.
adam crigler
Don't get me wrong.
tim pool
Rogue Fox says, people don't seem to understand that federal agents don't conduct riot control.
They see a group or mob doing these things and go in to make them rethink their life decisions.
Yeah.
Uncle Juan says, I heard some Vietnam era Democrats the other day talk about how they hope riots come to our area so they can teach all the Republicans a lesson.
It's no longer just the far left.
Now it's middle class Democrats hoping for violence.
Wow.
Older, older, I'd imagine a lot of older guys are probably thinking like, don't bring it to my neighborhood.
I don't care who you are.
adam crigler
We're seeing that right now.
This is what I've been saying.
They're going to go into the small neighborhoods and people are going to be like, get out.
tim pool
We just jumped 4K likes in like 10 seconds.
unidentified
Oh wow.
adam crigler
Smash that like button.
I'll go get the hat.
I wasn't joking.
tim pool
I don't know if it'll be enough.
Eagle99 says, Hi Tim, I asked you in your post today about leaving areas of concern.
Should people move from cities to where?
I'm not going to give anybody advice on where they should go or what they should do.
I'll tell you what I'm doing.
I am in the suburbs of a major urban metro, Philadelphia, and I do not want to be here.
adam crigler
The only thing that everybody needs to be doing is doing the research of what's actually happening in this country.
Know who your governor is.
Know who your mayor is.
Know who, you know, everyone that you can vote for, everyone that actually represents who you are, where you're living.
If you don't know the name of your governor, that's a problem.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
If you don't know the name of your senator or your representative, that's a problem.
And if that's the case, if I'm talking to you and you don't, figure that out.
See who's actually representing you.
Because Trump is the one on top.
tim pool
They're blaming 6,000 likes in like 30 seconds.
adam crigler
But don't forget what I just said.
Do that.
Do that research.
Figure out who's representing you and see what they're actually about.
That's what needs to happen.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
adam crigler
Moving anywhere or not.
It's important.
tim pool
Ergar says, check out the document PA 550-104.
Human factor consideration of undergrounds and insurgencies.
It was written for the US Army in the mid-60s.
Most of it is centered around communist insurgencies.
Very interesting.
Someone mentions breaking cop who shot Michael Brown is not Prepare for riots in St.
Louis again.
This is interesting because they already cleared him.
I actually have the newspaper right over there where it says no charges for Wilson in Michael Brown case.
They re-reviewed it and said nope.
adam crigler
Yeah, I know all about that court case now.
I looked through the whole thing because I wanted to know more about it and it's not what they say it is.
You know, it's crazy.
tim pool
Paul Bedard says, I think Trump is trolling the media on delaying the election.
If they try to play up the second corona wave, they're setting up the stage for him to delay the election.
He has no intention to delay the election, in my opinion.
adam crigler
That's a good point.
tim pool
A lot of people have said it's like a big ask, where it's like they keep saying, there's going to be a second wave, we better lock down.
So Trump goes, I guess we'll have to postpone it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're so that they'll go, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, no, don't do that.
adam crigler
Exactly.
tim pool
Don't invoke Directive 51.
Interesting.
commentary says Portland Council person Joe and hard Esty is the puppeteer of
Mayor Ted Wheeler. She was Portland's NAACP president two years ago until she
became Portland Council. A video of her talking to our local Marxist propaganda
arm KGW News today. Interesting. Your local Marxist propaganda arm. Caleb
Warden says to the critical think tank, did you see in Seattle that from the
second quarter of housing, the second quarter of housing marketing over 6,000
are in the process of selling their homes.
It's 15 times higher than last year.
Seattle won't be the last.
And then he says, Tim greater than Rogan.
Oh, 2020 spin it.
adam crigler
That is an honor.
tim pool
We need less than 4,000 more likes for Adam to go get the MAGA.
adam crigler
The only thing that you should be saying right now is thank you.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Thank you for sure.
Yes, absolutely.
That is a great compliment.
lydia smith
It was a huge compliment.
tim pool
Huge compliment.
But yes, we're very close to Adam putting on the Maga Bean.
You just need... I'll go get it!
I'm serious!
3,841 more likes.
Oh, now it changed again.
Eldon Taylor says, I'm a paramedic instructor, and watching these Antifa medics, they have conducted inappropriate medical care, and it's apparent they are not trained medical personnel.
They are laypersons claiming to be medics.
Well, of course.
That's why they use red duct tape to put crosses on their arms.
And then it's funny... See?
adam crigler
I'm a medic!
tim pool
Here's the best part.
When they get arrested, they're like, you're violating the Geneva Conventions.
You can't target people with crosses.
And it's like, dude, you're just a regular dude who put a cross on your shirt.
I don't think the cop cares.
lydia smith
It doesn't work that way.
tim pool
He's not going like, well, look, duct tape.
I better not arrest him.
Then everybody would just do it.
It's ridiculous.
Lewis says, the 32% figure gleefully broadcast by the media is an annualized total.
We would need three more quarters of 9% GDP drop, the correct amount for the larger number to be true.
So it's 9%.
That makes a lot more sense.
Zachary says Directive 51, Area 51.
lydia smith
That's what I was thinking.
tim pool
Aliens!
We're getting really close to 30k, bro.
You're gonna have to get the Magamine soon.
adam crigler
Smash that like button!
Smash it!
I'll put the Hulk hands on, too.
tim pool
Do it.
adam crigler
Oh, I'm gonna get him.
I'm getting him.
tim pool
Spork Witch says, Leftist response to aliens.
Doom Eternal gets it.
Earth is the melting pot of the universe.
The cleansing of Earth is a necessary step on the path to a brighter tomorrow.
Remember, demon can be an offensive term.
Refer to them as mortally challenged.
That was actually in Doom, right?
Because that's kind of funny.
adam crigler
Yo, that game is legit.
This person gets it.
tim pool
You're clearly making a point.
We're 2,000 likes away from you having to put in the Maga Beanie on.
Grayson Meyer says, this right here is for my soy boy, Adam.
Love your thoughts, man.
I'm trying to make veganism less of a lefty thing and more of an independent thing like it should be.
Go buy some tiger wings and beer on me.
You all are rad.
adam crigler
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
It's funny, though, because I don't really have that much soy.
I know, it's like soy Jesus, but I'm like, I prefer wheat gluten.
lydia smith
It's... Wheat gluten Jesus.
tim pool
Satan.
adam crigler
Yeah, Satan.
No, I don't want to perpetuate any sort of nickname that goes with soy or Jesus.
Satan Adam.
Yeah, you could just call me Adam, whatever.
But anyway, I want to smash the like button.
You guys are stopping me.
Sorry.
unidentified
28k.
adam crigler
We need two more.
tim pool
Two more thousand.
unidentified
1,498.
tim pool
Come on!
And I'll put on the Magabini.
Someone, someone, they were sharing a screen grab of you wearing the MAGA beanie and people were all, like, cheering online.
They were like, Adam Kregler literally put on a MAGA beanie!
adam crigler
That like button has been smashed.
tim pool
Fully smashed.
adam crigler
So, just saying.
lydia smith
People love the beanie.
tim pool
Alright, let's see, where are we at now?
I think we read that one.
And YouTube just jumped on me.
You gotta love when that happens.
adam crigler
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Here's some super chats and it just jumps 20 feet down.
E says, if Biden and Obama go to jail, Hillary and Bill are next.
Lynn and Evelyn, the dominoes will fall, and it will be the collapse of the global civilization.
Jimmy Grenier says, Hey Tim, love from Quebec.
Just thought you might be interested by this.
If any of you got a, uh, an Apple phone, pick it up and ask.
I'm not going to read the first part.
What's the definition of a demon?
Well, that's because there's an old slang term from New Zealand.
I'm fighting a sneeze where demon is like a detective or an investigator.
So it comes up in Google.
Demon is a cop.
adam crigler
There was a, I talked about this on Twitter and there was countless people from New Zealand that were like, I've never heard of this before.
tim pool
Yeah, I bet.
adam crigler
And Australia, like everyone was like, I, my, I think, I don't know what this is.
I've never heard this.
tim pool
I think you better go get that beanie.
adam crigler
Whoa, don't jump.
Don't jump ahead, man.
I have to see 30K and I'll go get it.
tim pool
But we're like, we're four minutes.
Yeah, only four minutes left.
adam crigler
That's fine.
Whatever.
tim pool
Stugett says, the left hates America, so let's ditch Republican and Libertarian for Americans.
It's the far left and the rest of us Americans.
Are you voting for Biden or a straight American ticket in November?
adam crigler
America!
tim pool
No, that's actually a really good idea because they won't call themselves Americans.
adam crigler
You're right.
tim pool
The far left will be like, F you, no.
adam crigler
Yep, exactly.
tim pool
And remember how they did the big campaign about it's okay, you know, the white thing to be white?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then there was a sign put up and it's triggering everybody to claim it's white supremacy.
What if you said the American party?
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, I like that a lot.
I mean, I said it.
I'm like, oh, sorry, I gotta go do something.
tim pool
Adam will be returning shortly.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
We get to do that every night.
to get the Maga Beanie. That's it. It's been it's it has been done. Wow. Perhaps we should
we should we should mention this more often in the show. We get 30,000 shares. Wait how
about $30,000?
If everybody superchats but $1, Adam will put on the mug... No, I'm kidding.
We got 30,000 likes.
Thank you guys.
Adam is running.
Go get it.
I'll read some more superchats while we wait.
lydia smith
All right.
tim pool
Let's see, Mixon Escu says, everyone watching, share Timcast videos, gotta beat those legacy media channels, fake news.
That's right.
If you guys think we do a better job than CNN, and you like a news commentary show where people like Adam will wear a MAGA beanie, then make sure you share the podcast.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
I wonder how many likes.
adam crigler
Hey, thanks for smashing the like button, everybody.
Let me get my close-up.
Let me get my close-up.
lydia smith
There we go.
adam crigler
This is what you asked for.
This is what you smashed.
lydia smith
Smashed for?
adam crigler
Thank you.
You smashed this.
tim pool
There's a like prize.
adam crigler
Appreciate it.
It is your, it is your prize.
Here it is.
tim pool
You gotta get a Cag Bean.
adam crigler
Voila.
tim pool
Keep America Great.
You have one?
You do not.
unidentified
Oh my gosh, no way.
tim pool
No way.
unidentified
Oh no, this is what I've been spouting.
lydia smith
Oh.
tim pool
What is this?
lydia smith
Oh yeah, look at this.
tim pool
Is it Make America Greater?
Oh, I like that.
Hold on.
adam crigler
People are starting to send me different hats, and I love it.
This is the one I like.
Make America Great.
tim pool
Greater.
I'm going to tell you about one of the greatest trolls the Trump campaign ever pulled off.
Did you know that Keep America Great was actually an anti-Trump slogan?
adam crigler
Seriously?
tim pool
This is what they asked for.
saying make America great again.
adam crigler
This is what they asked for.
tim pool
Some anti-Trump people created a merchandise site that said keep America great as their
slogan and they sold t-shirts.
But then for Trump's re-election campaign he adopted keep America great.
And all of a sudden all of those anti-Trump shirts from 2015 to 16 became pro-Trump shirts.
adam crigler
That's amazing.
tim pool
Because it was Trump's slogan.
lydia smith
Truly masterful.
tim pool
Yes, an amazing, amazing troll on anti-Trump.
adam crigler
You know, I gotta just say thanks, because this is something that I was saying in the early days of our show about how I was like, you know, we gotta just make America greater, you know?
And I really liked that a lot.
Mag.
And I was saying that a couple times.
Someone actually made this beanie for me.
Make America Greater.
So this is cool.
lydia smith
That's so neat.
adam crigler
I really appreciate that.
tim pool
I think I'll make one that says something like, Make America Just Okay I Guess.
Make it just okay, I guess.
That's all right.
Bill, thanks for the pear riding on a rocket ship super chat.
I really appreciate it.
Let's see.
I don't know what that one is.
Brony Ninja says, Maga Beanie time.
Let's go.
That's right.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to spin the UFO.
Out of simple excitement.
tim pool
Monster says, Maga Jesus.
I love it.
Maga.
Yeah, so when you put it on the first time, people started sharing pictures all over the internet.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
And they were like, he did it!
adam crigler
He did it!
tim pool
And they were like, who did what?
And they were like, look, he's wearing a MAGA beanie!
And I saw some posts from people, they were like, I don't understand why that matters.
And they were like, because it's the first time you put the beanie on!
adam crigler
It's like, it's a big deal!
I have been christened.
tim pool
Lauren says, meat eaters don't fashion meat to look like veggies.
Stop appropriating meat.
adam crigler
It's cultural appreciation.
Meat appreciation.
I like the taste of meat.
tim pool
Wait, I think it was KFC who did this.
They created a carrot made out of meat.
unidentified
That sounds disgusting.
tim pool
I think it was KFC.
It was a joke.
adam crigler
It's funny because everyone acts like because I'm vegan I don't like eating meat.
I like eating meat.
My dad makes the best steaks.
I don't eat meat because I live in a society that I don't have to kill an animal to eat.
I know what nutrients I need and I get those nutrients from other sources and I feel great about it.
Period.
But if the world went...
Sideways.
tim pool
And you had to live.
adam crigler
And if I had to live, I would be out there hunting.
I would probably do a lot more fishing.
I used to fish a lot.
It's like, I know what I'm doing.
tim pool
Have you seen that photo of the guy with the, he's got a rifle and his dog, and then he's kneeling in front of a bunch of zucchinis?
adam crigler
Today's haul.
tim pool
Yeah, today's haul.
adam crigler
I did see that.
It's pretty funny.
tim pool
Did you find it?
lydia smith
Yeah, it was Arby's.
They made a vegetable.
tim pool
Arby's made a vegetable.
adam crigler
I used to like Arby's a lot, actually.
lydia smith
They have the meats, apparently.
I have a 1978 Vespa.
unidentified
I had a moped.
tim pool
I had two mopeds when I lived in New York.
Oh, yeah.
You were trying to give me one.
adam crigler
motorcycle yes indeed I have I did I have a 1978 Vespa I had a moped I had
two mopeds when I lived in New York oh yeah you were you were trying to give me
tim pool
one I'm like man yeah cuz I was you know because I had one that was had no pedals
It was modified, so it was a kickstart.
Still legally a moped, I guess.
adam crigler
Wasn't the other one some sort of antique or something?
It didn't have the frame?
tim pool
No.
The one moped I had was awesome.
It was styled like an old 1950s Harley.
No, it was more like a Triumph.
adam crigler
An old Triumph.
tim pool
No, you're talking about somebody else, man.
I didn't have those.
adam crigler
What?
I saw your bikes.
I stayed at your house.
I know what you're talking about.
tim pool
I did not own.
Those are called pucks.
I didn't have one.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Chris had one.
adam crigler
I guess that's it.
tim pool
I didn't have one.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
The one that I had was styled to look like an old 1950s.
So the back was straight flat.
Excuse me.
I know what I had when I used to ride around in New York City.
The other one I had was made to look like an actual motorcycle.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But I didn't have one that looked like what it would triumph bikes.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
I didn't have one of those.
Yeah.
I did not.
adam crigler
Well, in my opinion.
tim pool
So I'm just saying, you know, you know, I realized maybe we shouldn't when you went to the head, I was like, we should've said $30,000.
Yeah, come on.
lydia smith
Achievable stuff.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
This is fun.
tim pool
This is great.
30,000 likes.
adam crigler
By all means, by all means.
Seriously, share this.
Can I get my close up?
Yeah.
Look.
Hey, you want to hear it?
lydia smith
He's ready for his close up.
tim pool
Screenshots.
Adam was a male model.
adam crigler
Share it far and wide and hashtag Timcast IRL.
lydia smith
Yeah man.
adam crigler
Do that for me, I appreciate it.
tim pool
But Adam, I mean a lot of people probably don't know because they're new but you're, I don't know if, you don't still model.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
But you were a model.
adam crigler
I just did!
tim pool
You just did model?
unidentified
I just did!
tim pool
So you still do model?
adam crigler
That was free modeling for Trump.
tim pool
Trump 2020.
It's not even Friday yet, and we're having this much fun.
adam crigler
What is tomorrow?
So it's kind of like, you know, the segue into tomorrow's episode, right?
tim pool
We have a request.
adam crigler
Should I read it?
What do you mean?
Why wouldn't you?
tim pool
Okay, you asked for it.
lydia smith
Oh boy.
adam crigler
Oh no.
unidentified
Where did it go?
tim pool
It just disappeared on me.
adam crigler
YouTube was like, no.
tim pool
Yeah, YouTube got rid of it.
unidentified
Seriously?
adam crigler
What was it?
tim pool
It's gone.
Well no, I gotta find it.
unidentified
Where did it go?
tim pool
Wow, did it really just jump?
It's gone.
Oh, well, you're happy that I didn't.
adam crigler
I guess.
I have no clue what you're talking about.
Someone had a request.
tim pool
Oh, here it is.
What's wrong with that?
We raised $30,000.
You guys take a photo op in Magathongs.
adam crigler
Done.
tim pool
No.
adam crigler
I'll keep all the money then.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what.
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
You give me 30 grand.
I will absolutely model in a MAGA thong.
lydia smith
You boys have fun.
unidentified
You supply the thong and the 30 grand.
adam crigler
Done.
tim pool
People will do it.
lydia smith
They're going to do it.
adam crigler
They're going to start.
All right.
tim pool
Someone's going to start.
adam crigler
Start it up.
tim pool
Someone's going to start a GoFundMe.
Raising 30 grand to get Aaron Crigler to wear a MAGA thong.
adam crigler
I'll do a kickflip too.
lydia smith
Who did this?
Who did this?
adam crigler
I am having a lot of fun today.
lydia smith
No.
adam crigler
Look at this.
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Ayuda says, Adam, when TimCast IRL started, I wasn't a fan of you, but I have done a complete 180.
You are awesome.
I wish we could chat.
adam crigler
Thank you so much.
tim pool
Everybody loves Adam.
adam crigler
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
tim pool
Because he's wearing the MAGA beanie.
adam crigler
No.
tim pool
What?
adam crigler
No, they've been saying that before the beanie went on.
tim pool
No, I'm saying, well, now that you're wearing the MAGA beanie, everybody's cheering, like, yeah.
adam crigler
OK, that may be true.
But don't take it away from who I am, Tim.
tim pool
OK.
adam crigler
It's not cool.
lydia smith
Is this the cherry on top now?
tim pool
IK says, the game division is the perfect depiction of a major urban center during an outbreak and a complete societal breakdown.
It is.
It's a lot of fun.
It's a good game.
It is.
Abel says, what does it say I trust Tim Pool a YouTuber more than MSM?
It means that the times are a changing.
adam crigler
Integrity.
Right there.
tim pool
Yes.
adam crigler
That's what I see.
tim pool
Integrity.
adam crigler
You've got it, man.
tim pool
You know what it is, man?
On Joe Rogan, Matt Taibbi, I think it was Matt Taibbi and Joe Rogan talked about Talked about this.
Matt said something like, because the media has basically become partisan, clickbait, whatever, that it's going to create a hole in the market for real news.
And whoever does that will be very, very well off.
That's what's coming next.
adam crigler
Good for you, Tim.
You saw the future and you are the future.
Hold on, I'm not done.
Thank you for bringing me onto the team, man.
tim pool
Oh, for sure, brother.
adam crigler
Thank you.
tim pool
I'm going to be doing a big expansion.
We're going to have field reporters.
We're going to have fact checkers.
That's the plan for now.
We'll see how things play out with the election and with censorship, but the plan for now is we're getting really, really close.
We are working on this game.
It's a tabletop card game called Cancel Culture.
We're working on it with a guy from Freedom Tunes, Seamus, you may know, so it's going to be fun.
Check out his channel, Freedom Tunes, for a lot of comedy, culture war, politics, and that's going to be kind of the art style we use.
The game is fun.
The goal of the game is to cancel your opponent, and it's relatively simple, but that's what we're working on now.
We're going to be moving into a much bigger facility.
And then we've got a ton of work to do.
But one of the first things I'm going to be doing, because I talked about this last year, is starting a news slash fact-checking organization.
And we're going to rate other companies based on their violations of journalistic ethics.
So we're going to sample 100 stories and then give them a score based on how many violations they had.
And, you know, per article.
And that's the plan for now.
We're also going to do explainer videos.
If you go to my Instagram, instagram.com slash timcast, I put up a video today about Directive 51.
It's two minutes long.
It's very short.
But it's an animated graphic.
It's an animatic with voiceover explaining it.
And we're gonna do a bunch of this on a new channel with, you know, various new stuff, so get ready for all of that.
But it is past 10, so I don't know if you wanted to give any final thoughts.
adam crigler
Well, if you go to my, I was just thinking about it, if you go to my Twitter, on my, whatever, subject line, my bio, you can, there's my PayPal.
So if you really want to see me in a MAGA thong, I'm a man of my word.
tim pool
We're gonna need to go fund me to show the full amount has been reached, though.
unidentified
Oh, OK.
adam crigler
All right.
Should I just start one?
tim pool
You want to start a GoFundMe to model in a MAGA thong?
adam crigler
I don't know.
How does this thing happen?
I don't know.
unidentified
I think somebody's already talking about it on Twitter, so I won't worry about it.
adam crigler
I'll just let it go and see what happens.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
See what happens.
tim pool
All right, everybody, again, share the show.
And I mean this.
We're on all podcast platforms.
You can tell your little robot assistants to play us, and it pops right up.
We're on Apple and all that stuff.
But we're competing against basically every other podcast.
We're competing against mainstream media, and they have establishment power, massive wealth, and they're going to dump hundreds of millions of dollars in ads.
They're going to buy their way into any platform they want.
They're going to use their connections.
We don't have that.
So, if we're gonna compete anyway, if you think we do a better job than they do, then you gotta help by sharing the videos.
Share the stream, share the clips we put up every day, and that's one of the best things you can do.
Also, make sure you subscribe.
And most of you, I assume, have already hit the like button, but hit the notification bell as well, and thank you all so much for the comments, for the superchats.
We will be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.
live, and we're gonna have a jam session, because that's what we do on Fridays.
adam crigler
The MAGA flip.
tim pool
The MAGA flip?
adam crigler
Sorry, I'm just thinking about what the kickflip would be called if I was wearing a MAGA thong.
tim pool
Oh, I'll invent a flip trick.
adam crigler
The MAGA flip.
tim pool
I will make a flip trick.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just talking about kickflipping in a MAGA thong.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
adam crigler
The MAGA flip.
tim pool
All right, man.
Well, there we go.
I guess we'll see you guys tomorrow at 8 p.m.
unidentified
live.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
We'll see you next time.
adam crigler
Good night, everybody.
unidentified
See you tomorrow.
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