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June 19, 2020 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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TimcastIRL - Facebook BANS Trump Ads Because Media Demanded It, This Story Is WEIRD
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adam crigler
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lydia smith
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tim pool
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unidentified
Peace.
adam crigler
I just do it, Tim.
tim pool
We're live.
adam crigler
What up, everybody?
tim pool
So, uh... Oh, gosh.
While we're getting the show ready, somebody chatted something like, Adam was racist, and it's really funny because As I'm looking at the screen, I'm like, you know, glazed over.
Adam's telling a story about how he hates racism.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's like, man, I got to tell somebody.
And then the thing popped up and I'm like, how did that person know just right at that moment to say that?
adam crigler
It wasn't just that I said I hated racism.
It's that I called out someone and it wasn't actually my own family member, but it was, it was a, like a prominent, like friend of the family.
That's always been around.
And my, my sister married a black man.
And I heard them say some racist stuff and I snapped!
I was like, how dare you?
I actually swore a lot.
I swore a lot at them.
I was pissed.
Man, I took the gloves off and threw them on the ground.
And I was like, get the F out of my house.
Don't you ever talk about my Fing sister again or who she's with.
You have no idea.
Get out.
And they did.
They left.
They got up and left.
And they're no longer friends of the family.
Which is awesome.
And I was like, boom.
I was telling Lydia this story.
We were talking about other stuff.
lydia smith
As this person was typing this.
adam crigler
And Tim's like, someone says you're racist, Adam.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
Hold on.
It was better than that.
It was better than that.
I'm all tired and I'm sitting here like this like Adams Adams doing this impassioned story like and I said to them you don't speak to my sister that way and I'm like I'm like I look over at the screen and it's like Adam is a racist and I'm like Adams defiant like And I will make sure they hear my voice when I say it.
That was great.
Perfect timing, Chet.
unidentified
Good timing.
adam crigler
Oh, man, that's good.
lydia smith
That was awesome.
tim pool
Well, apparently, I don't know.
You know what, man?
Because I'm sitting here like this because the story today is like Trump's a Nazi, I guess.
adam crigler
Yeah.
I mean, whatever.
What else have they... Haven't they thrown that at him a long time ago?
A few times, yeah.
Because he... They try.
tim pool
He posted a red triangle.
Because his campaign posted a red triangle.
unidentified
And I'm like, I don't even know what you- What does that even mean?
tim pool
It's a triangle, and then some people are like it's a yield sign because he was using traffic symbols.
And then the Trump team said that it was an Antifa symbol, which it is.
It's not the most prominent, but- Right, isn't it?
adam crigler
Isn't it?
tim pool
It is.
It's been used by the left.
adam crigler
You showed me some of those Antifa symbols that you were looking at earlier before the show, and it's like, that pretty much looks like a red triangle upside down, just like that.
tim pool
Yeah, so apparently, I guess the Trump campaign used this symbol because they were like, it's a symbol from Antifa or whatever, but it's like a weird, obscure thing to do.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's a weird story.
Yeah, it's weird that the left a little weird started screeching.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's a Nazi symbol But then the question is look like the Nazis put the Star
of David on the Jewish people Okay, because they were Jewish to start David. It was a two
triangles, right?
Right, and I guess the argument now is that they put the red triangle on the political prisoners because they were
leftists opposing You know the Nazis or whatever and that they had used that
symbol in the past and that's where the symbol came from originally or something
But that makes no sense, because apparently the Nazis used a bunch of different colored triangles.
And I'm like, bro, are you seriously going to play a game where colored triangles are now like... Racist.
lydia smith
Dog whistles.
unidentified
Racist?
What?
tim pool
This is so stupid.
Look at the chat.
The chat is just loaded with red triangles.
lydia smith
Yeah, thanks everyone.
adam crigler
You're all racist.
unidentified
Listen, listen.
tim pool
Donald Trump and his son are doing a... A live show.
Triggered... I don't think it's live.
adam crigler
Don't say when.
After our show ends, that's when it starts.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's not till after our show, everyone.
adam crigler
Don't go looking for it right now, though, I swear.
Don't go see it.
lydia smith
It's not there.
adam crigler
Man, and they're talking about aliens.
I'm so jealous.
tim pool
Yeah, they're not.
You know what Trump's gonna say.
There's no aliens.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what he's gonna say.
tim pool
Like, and this is one of the jokes I made outside.
adam crigler
Well, technically, he asked him, can you open up Roswell so we can go in and look around?
He's gonna be like, no, I can't do that.
lydia smith
No way, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, there's nothing there.
adam crigler
There's nothing.
tim pool
Nothing.
It's all wrong.
adam crigler
You're wrong.
tim pool
China.
unidentified
China's in there.
adam crigler
Nothing in there but China.
tim pool
So it's just, it's one of those dumb days.
And then we got, um... I'm sorry, this is real.
They're trying to claim that Beethoven was black.
lydia smith
Yeah, what?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And so I started playing that song, A Fifth of Beethoven, and I'm like, man, I wish we really had, like, access to covers.
We got to figure out how to do that.
adam crigler
Let's just, yeah, you're right.
tim pool
Yeah, he was, like, jamming.
Yeah, I'm jamming.
I'm like, it'd be really great to, like, open the segment just, like, jamming with the song.
But they're literally, there's, like, a meme right now.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
Beethoven was black.
And to me, this is freaky because they're literally rewriting history.
adam crigler
They really are.
tim pool
It's happening so fast.
I'm getting kind of bored with it, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm like, oh, it's the way I can't stand.
Just give me the new redacted, you know, the revised history.
adam crigler
Oh, just tell me what I'm supposed to believe.
tim pool
George, George Washington Carver was the president.
adam crigler
You can't do that.
tim pool
It wasn't actually.
So they're removing the name George Washington and Jefferson from from schools.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
In in California, I guess.
adam crigler
I saw that.
tim pool
Pacific Northwest.
It was a really funny Reddit comment where someone was like, you can just leave it the same and just claim it was named for George Washington Carver and George Jefferson.
unidentified
Boom.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
Wait, George Jefferson?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
George Washington Carver, I get.
He's like an inventor, right?
George Jefferson.
But hey, man, you know?
lydia smith
You could wing it.
tim pool
Yeah, sure, whatever works.
lydia smith
Jury rig it.
tim pool
But at the same time, the weird thing about it is they're getting rid of all these mascots for, like, different food companies that are black.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
That's another thing I noticed.
Yeah, that's weird.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Nobody's coming for Mr. Clean.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
You got a tall, ripped, white, bald dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, right?
tim pool
He's a skinhead.
adam crigler
Right.
Yeah, right.
You think they'd go for Mr. Clean first.
lydia smith
I think so, yeah.
adam crigler
But no, no, let's get rid of all the minority figures.
Yeah, all the representations of black people.
lydia smith
Land O'Lakes.
adam crigler
That was a couple weeks ago.
A month ago.
I don't even remember.
A couple months now?
unidentified
Jeez.
tim pool
Weird, man.
adam crigler
It's like, well, if you're a minority, you're not allowed to be, you know, put and help.
You don't sell products.
lydia smith
Yeah, seriously.
adam crigler
Wait, what?
lydia smith
That's not nice.
adam crigler
It doesn't make any sense.
tim pool
Thursday is Capitalism Day here at TimCast IRL because we have hard market competition with live streams.
No, I just mean we compete with a bunch of other shows.
adam crigler
Well, Crowder snapped this morning.
I'm interested in what he's saying right now.
tim pool
So we were close to being like, maybe we shouldn't do a show because we gotta watch Trump and Crowder.
adam crigler
Crowder and Trump?
Man.
tim pool
Yeah, he went nuts.
And it's funny because we're talking about him live right now while he's live talking about... We're like, I don't know, what is Crowder saying?
It sounds like he said in his rant, I'm pretty sure, didn't he say silence is consent?
lydia smith
Something like that.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
And he's talking about conservatives being weak.
adam crigler
That's what you've been saying for a while.
tim pool
Well, I don't take consent.
I say abstaining.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
So you're basically... It's similar.
Come on.
Semantics?
You're gonna argue semantics with me?
tim pool
I don't think silence is consent.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, it's semantics again.
It's like you're saying if you're just going to be silent, then they're going to get their way, so shut up.
tim pool
The consent thing is a stronger argument about how you're agreeing to their position by saying nothing.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
I don't go that far.
I say you're ignoring the problem and it's going to get worse.
If you don't care, that's your own problem.
adam crigler
Well, which do you think is going to work to get them up and actually talking and saying something?
lydia smith
That's a good question.
tim pool
Well, the left literally protests saying silence is consent.
And they were routinely mocked.
adam crigler
That's true.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
I'm like, are you sure you want to go with that?
unidentified
Where's the Me Too movement?
adam crigler
They haven't shown around for that.
tim pool
It's kind of a bad slogan.
And I'm not a fan of, it's almost authoritarian.
adam crigler
Almost?
tim pool
Telling people that they have to, you know.
The problem is, liberty is a weakness.
It can be a strength in a lot of ways.
But, and I'm definitely more for liberty, but you have to understand, authoritarians can exploit that, take advantage of us.
Like with COVID, we had a really hard time.
China just like showed up with the welding kit and said, lock them in their doors.
And then they came back later and found them dead on the ground.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
They didn't care because they don't respect life.
adam crigler
So isn't it the Chinese Communist Party?
That's what it stands for?
unidentified
CCP.
adam crigler
CCP.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Yeah.
Oh.
unidentified
Yeah, that's communism.
adam crigler
How's that working for them?
tim pool
Well, apparently, curbing COVID.
I don't know.
They got 1.4 billion people and they got like 10 megacities.
adam crigler
Actually, I've been talking to a lot of people about this China-India confrontation.
And I guess because of all the factories going under not necessarily going under but stopping production America's taking that back.
They're trying to bring factories back here 40% of Chinese people are out of jobs 40% Wow, so think about that.
Those are our jobs Well, yeah, maybe a lot of them like we start building factories We got we got more jobs this way, but imagine and they're saying like China needs to either you know have a land war or They're basically trying, they gotta cull the masses.
That's what they're saying China needs to do, and that's why they're trying to get into a land war with India.
And it's like, jeez, that's brutal!
tim pool
They're trying to cull their population.
adam crigler
Communism.
They can't handle it because they're fearing that people will actually rise up and fight the communist party.
tim pool
You know, so look, here's what's important.
Liberty is the best way to live.
adam crigler
I agree.
tim pool
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
lydia smith
Yeah, 100%.
tim pool
But, you know, the question is always, would you give up freedom in exchange for security?
And if you can't do it, it doesn't work.
adam crigler
No, you can't.
tim pool
So what really happens is, you want to ask me how China's doing as a country?
Ridiculously well.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Their people?
adam crigler
Oof.
Right.
Not so much.
tim pool
So you would not want to be a person in that country.
But hey, the country is doing great.
And it's really crazy.
I can't remember who this was.
It was probably Bloomberg or something being like, you know, the communists and their authoritarianism has done well to help the people live better.
I don't know if it was actually Bloomberg, so I'm probably gonna get in trouble.
So I'm not saying it was actually him, but I wanted to imitate him.
lydia smith
Right, yeah, sure.
tim pool
We'll let that one slide.
Makes sense.
But there have been a lot of people who have been praising Chinese communism.
adam crigler
Yeah, that scares me.
tim pool
For lifting people up.
I know!
adam crigler
I bet they're all Democrats.
unidentified
Probably.
lydia smith
Yeah, I don't think it's any Republicans.
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
I'd be willing to bet a Republican's not gonna come out and be like, China's great!
Actually, no, take that back.
adam crigler
Really?
tim pool
You'd be surprised.
lydia smith
Who would do that?
tim pool
The neocons.
A lot of the older Republicans who have retired and the old establishment, old guard people.
adam crigler
There's a lot of fringe things that I'm reading out on the outskirts that it's this big huge conspiracy to infiltrate America.
China is trying to infiltrate us.
tim pool
Mike Pompeo said it, it's not a conspiracy.
adam crigler
It's not even a conspiracy anymore.
Okay, so they're invading us.
They're not just gonna pick Democrats, they're gonna pick anyone who has an empty pocket that wants money in it.
Like, here, we'll put money in your pocket.
tim pool
I'll tell you the problem, man.
I was asked about why I'm always ragging on Democrats, and I was like, because Republicans don't do anything.
And then I thought about it, and I'm like, wow, they really don't do anything.
lydia smith
They really don't, do they?
tim pool
Like, what are they doing?
unidentified
Nothing.
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
I mean, there's a few things.
Okay.
Like, I could point to Matt Gaetz.
I could point to Josh Hawley.
And Rand Paul.
Rand Paul obstructs.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
In kind of good ways.
I like Rand Paul.
He's awesome.
adam crigler
Okay.
And he's Republican.
tim pool
Definitely.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
tim pool
Josh Hawley has introduced a ton of legislation.
I don't know where it's gone.
You know?
lydia smith
I think the other Republicans kind of stalled it out.
tim pool
Yeah, probably.
I do.
I do think it's fair to point out that Trump led an amazing economy, the best we've ever seen.
adam crigler
OK.
tim pool
And so I'm not going to I'm not blaming him right now for, you know, and Trump is barely a Republican.
And I don't mean that to be disrespectful to the GOP, but Trump is something different.
The Trump party is very different.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So so Trump has actually done a lot of really great things.
And I can't blame him for COVID.
The Democrat governors are the ones who shut everything down.
adam crigler
A lot of people are trying to blame him for COVID.
It's weird.
tim pool
I know.
adam crigler
I still see memes about it.
It's like, what is going on?
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Like, how is that his fault?
What?
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
If anything, he prevented more spread because he shut it down really quick and they reamed him out for that.
tim pool
But it doesn't even matter.
It was an act of nature.
adam crigler
Right, exactly.
tim pool
You know, it's like a virus happened.
adam crigler
As far as we know.
tim pool
Oh, this is funny.
Like, this is the game that the left tries to play.
It's how they control the narrative to the best of their abilities.
So Rachel Maddow can screech for three years that Trump may be an asset of Russia, which is like an unhinged conspiracy.
adam crigler
Yep, it is.
tim pool
And she's not called a conspiracy theorist.
adam crigler
Huh.
And why's that?
tim pool
I talk about two articles, one from the Daily Mail and one from the Washington Post, saying they believe it's possible this disease came from a laboratory.
And I say, we don't know for sure, but it's interesting to see they're entertaining it.
adam crigler
Conspiracy theorists.
tim pool
Yeah, they're trying as hard as they can to apply that label.
And now these activists are actively looking for journalists to write one article is all they need, so they can slap it on Wikipedia.
Yet Rachel Maddow, for three years, this is how they control the narrative.
They discredit anybody who would challenge.
And for some reason, I don't understand how Rachel Maddow gets away with everything she did.
lydia smith
It's all opinion, right?
It's not really journalism.
tim pool
But so am I. That's fine.
I do opinion stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
But this is the game.
The institutions are controlled by the tribalist left.
adam crigler
Seems like it, yeah.
tim pool
It literally is.
adam crigler
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, you look at the banning of Uncle Ben.
Right.
So I was reading about Uncle Ben.
It's called Uncle Ben's, right?
Yeah, the rice.
Yeah.
It was 1946.
It was a farmer.
They used him as their mascot.
lydia smith
Hey, that's cool.
tim pool
What's wrong with that?
lydia smith
Good for him.
tim pool
Why are they removing this guy?
adam crigler
Yeah, that in itself seems pretty racist.
Oh, whoa, we can't have this black man, like, show enough to sell our rice, and it's like, but he was okay with it.
Same with the Aunt Jemima thing.
It's like, she was cool with it.
lydia smith
Yeah, she got benefited.
adam crigler
She went from a slave to a millionaire.
lydia smith
That's fantastic.
tim pool
And she used the money for civil rights.
adam crigler
Boom!
Why are they getting rid of that?
lydia smith
Because they don't know history?
adam crigler
Because they don't know history.
lydia smith
I'm willing to bet.
adam crigler
No, that's it.
lydia smith
This makes sense to me.
adam crigler
They just see it and they go, how dare they use a minority to try to sell a product.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
tim pool
Mr. Clean's literally a skinhead.
Exactly.
Yeah, what's up with that?
unidentified
I'm kidding.
tim pool
He's just a bald guy.
It's not fair.
adam crigler
Oh man.
tim pool
But for real, Mr. Clean is the easiest example of like, you know, what about Chef Boyardee?
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
You don't see Italian?
Yeah, where are the Italians at?
lydia smith
Oh, they're all in front of the Christopher Columbus statue.
tim pool
That's right, they're out in Philly.
adam crigler
With baseball bats.
tim pool
So, welcome to the show.
We're just chilling today because we were like, we're just going to turn the camera on and just whatever, man.
Adam was talking, giving us some passion speech.
So, smash that like button if you didn't already.
Dungeons and Dragons.
adam crigler
Yeah, can we talk about that?
tim pool
We gotta do it.
adam crigler
Did you see I just pulled that in there?
tim pool
You did.
adam crigler
Smash the like button!
lydia smith
There we go.
adam crigler
I moved away from the mic.
Yes, thank you.
I didn't want to pop anyone's eardrums tonight.
Thank you.
I was a little crazy last night.
Sorry about that.
lydia smith
A little loud.
adam crigler
So good.
So yeah, I got this article from... More from Wizards of the Coast, man.
They're going nuts.
tim pool
These people are so...
adam crigler
They're they're basically making Dungeons and Dragons right they've declared it racist. You got it pulled up. I do.
Yeah Do you want to read? Yeah, pop it up right here. Well, I
mean are we gonna talk about it Nate?
I guess I could switch over so this this is an article from them from their Dungeons and Dragons site at talking about
diversity and Dungeons and Dragons
unidentified
D&D.
adam crigler
D&D.
Yep, it's the new version of it, I guess.
So, I mean, I guess I'll just read it.
Let's just see what it says.
Dungeons & Dragons teaches that diversity is strength, for only a diverse group of adventurers can overcome the many challenges a D&D story presents.
In that spirit, making D&D as welcoming and inclusive as possible has moved to forefront To the forefront of our priorities over the last six years.
We'd like to share with you what we've been doing and what we plan to do in the future to address legacy D&D content that does not reflect who we are today.
We recognize that doing this isn't about getting to the place where we can rest on our laurels, but continuing to head in the right direction.
We feel that being transparent about it is the best way to let our community help us to continue to calibrate our efforts.
Okay, so... Wow, so that was prepping us for the rest.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on!
adam crigler
Are you reading it?
tim pool
The Orcs are racist!
unidentified
Yes.
adam crigler
Yes, so... Yes, you jumped ahead, and that's basically what they're saying.
tim pool
I don't want to bury the lead.
People are probably like, why are we getting this message?
Well, that's why.
adam crigler
Yeah, orcs, I guess.
And I posted this earlier on Twitter, and I was like, they are making the comparison.
They're making... They're racist.
They're making this about race.
Orcs had nothing to do with humans at all.
I never thought of an orc as a human.
They're orcs.
They're not like an alien species, but basically, if you were to think about what another species is that isn't a human being, It's like, check this out.
tim pool
Wait, let me read this.
adam crigler
Yes, please.
tim pool
It's riddled with glorious... They say, we present Orcs and Drow in a new light in two of our most recent books.
Eberron, Rising from the Last War, and Explorer's Guide to the Wildemount.
In those books, Orcs and Drow are just as morally and culturally complex as other peoples.
We will continue that approach in future books portraying all the peoples of D&D in relatable ways and making it clear that they are as free as humans to decide who they are and what they do.
What, what, what?
lydia smith
That's condescending.
adam crigler
I don't understand what they're trying to do here.
tim pool
Why are orcs racist?
This mythology, it's like, oh man.
lydia smith
This is actually an old idea.
Cause this is actually from Lord of the Rings.
And this stretches back a few years.
And what's really interesting about the Lord of the Rings is that there are actually multi-ethnic different kinds of races in the Lord of the Rings universe.
But orcs, they honed in on it and they're like, this is what remind us of black people.
So who is that really pointing?
adam crigler
Right, so they're saying that the humans represented in Dungeons & Dragons can't be black?
There isn't black adventurers?
Like, what?
tim pool
Bro, I figured it out.
adam crigler
Why?
Why not?
Why is that such a far-fetched idea for you, wizards?
tim pool
I figured it out just right now.
Oh, dude, tell us.
adam crigler
Tell us, Tim.
lydia smith
What is it?
adam crigler
Breaking news, everyone.
Tim figured it out.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
Aliens.
lydia smith
It's aliens!
tim pool
No, no, no, I'm serious.
I'm 100% serious.
unidentified
Check it out.
adam crigler
You need a beanie with the fuzzy hair.
tim pool
This just clicked in my brain.
Because my brain goes quick, and you know it.
I was thinking to myself as you're talking about this, I'm thinking like, we just have these depictions of monsters to give us something to fight against.
Orcs are not people on purpose.
so that we can create a villain that we fight against.
adam crigler
That's exactly it.
tim pool
The orc emerges and we're like, it's not a human!
And we stand side by side with our human brothers and sisters to fight the not-humans.
Why, hold on, why would they need to convince us that non-human creatures are just as diverse and culturally, you know, what do they say, culturally complex as we are?
adam crigler
Excuse me, Tim.
Orc lives matter.
tim pool
No, listen.
This is important.
lydia smith
Wait, Barry, hold on.
tim pool
It's because when the aliens come, alright, they're gonna tell us not to be specious.
adam crigler
Oh.
Okay.
tim pool
So, I am kidding, by the way.
But, like, the general idea is...
In Lord of the Rings, there's actually, you know, different races.
There's white people, there's black people.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Apparently.
I'm not a big Lord of the Rings person, but I was reading.
lydia smith
Yeah, in the books, yeah.
tim pool
I was reading about it.
It was like a southern continent, I guess.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And the orcs were literally not humans.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's part of the point.
adam crigler
Yes.
tim pool
And so, in a lot of stories, I'm thinking, so what's next?
Are we gonna be like, you know, what's the Balrog?
Is that the name of that demon?
lydia smith
Oh yeah, that huge demon.
adam crigler
The big, huge demon dude.
tim pool
The big demon?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like Balrog lives on.
adam crigler
The fire whip?
tim pool
Yes, look, clearly.
Hold on.
adam crigler
Pretty cool.
lydia smith
It is a whip, right?
adam crigler
I think it was a whip.
tim pool
Then it's intelligent.
And it crafted a large weapon for itself.
lydia smith
And there's slavery implications there.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
So how come Gandalf went, listen, when he walked up to Balrog, did he say, we come in peace?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, he said, you shall not pass.
Gatekeeping.
adam crigler
And then turned into a white wizard.
Racist.
tim pool
No, not even that.
unidentified
He destroyed the bridge.
That's true.
tim pool
Saying, you're not welcome on our side.
lydia smith
So symbolic.
tim pool
And then he became a white wizard.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's right.
lydia smith
Oh man.
adam crigler
Man.
Cancel Lord of the Rings.
lydia smith
Mind blown.
adam crigler
Put it on the list!
lydia smith
No, not Lord of the Rings, please.
tim pool
No, no, but in all seriousness.
unidentified
Come on.
tim pool
There's an interesting idea there in that we create monsters so that we can have a challenge.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's what orcs are.
tim pool
We don't just want to fight a dragon that's mindless.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
We want, so in for instance in like Magic the Gathering and Dungeons & Dragons, you have super intelligent all-powerful dragon beings that can shapeshift and things like that.
Are we now gonna, are they gonna come out and be like, actually the dragons are intelligent and we just need to negotiate with them?
Okay, I got an idea.
Let's get rid of the dungeons.
We can keep the dragons, though.
Okay, because dragons, their lives matter.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, but there's different colored dragons, though, Tim.
So when we get into that, we get into that part of it, though.
tim pool
No, but listen, we should call the game Diversity and Dragons.
And we gotta get rid of the weapons.
adam crigler
No weapons.
tim pool
The magic should all be healing.
adam crigler
Well, words hurt nowadays.
Oh, for sure.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
adam crigler
Weapons will just be words.
lydia smith
Okay.
unidentified
Good point.
Right?
tim pool
Yeah, I'm tracking.
And the goal will be to... Well, no, it's... The bad guys try to hurt your feelings.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
By calling you names.
unidentified
Okay.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah, okay.
tim pool
And they're fascists.
lydia smith
Okay, yes.
adam crigler
Perfect.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
So you team up with the dragons, and the bad guys are white people.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
Because that's not racist.
adam crigler
Well, it feels like that's what they want.
tim pool
How about this?
The orcs are now the good guys.
The white people are the bad guys.
unidentified
Okay.
adam crigler
Will that make them happy, though?
tim pool
I think that would actually be socially acceptable, to be honest.
unidentified
Yeah, it might be.
tim pool
We should try it.
No, but I mean, I'm kind of joking, but think about it seriously.
If they're like, well, don't rag on the orcs.
They're culturally complex.
It's like, okay, well, then, I don't know.
We can rag on white people, right?
Because that's what they do all day and night.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
They complain about how they're inherently racist.
So then you make the bad guys the racists, and then the game is about you being an orc and a dragon teaming up to take down the fascists.
Diversity and dragons.
lydia smith
There you go.
adam crigler
We should stream the game.
So they can keep the D&D tag.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's perfect.
tim pool
Yeah, and all all of the dye you have are they're all there.
It's a d20, but it's every side is 20 and then It's all 20s and then Can you roll for hit please?
20 Wow a natural 20 good for you, and so here's by the way we have participation trophies for any time you hit a 20 You so so so here's what happens The bad when you when you roll for the for them for the bad guys for the fascists, okay, there's are all ones Ah, right.
So here's what happens.
But remember, words are violence.
adam crigler
Sounds like a fun game.
tim pool
Words are violence.
So when you encounter the fascist, and he calls you naughty words, okay, that hurts.
But you roll for defense, and because you have critical race theory training, you roll a natural 20 and you take no damage.
But then, when you roll to attack, using your words, you calmly explain to him his white privilege, and the fascist converts and then joins your party.
adam crigler
There you go.
Yeah, all right.
tim pool
Yep, and they you know, but they they have to like, you know kiss your boots.
Okay Diversity in dragons.
adam crigler
Yes, that was I can't D&D man, they did it wizards started it by banning Some cards we talked about a couple times already.
I got a theory and they're just continuing continuing.
tim pool
I got it I got a theory man The people who are doing this are legit white supremacists.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
I don't.
I'm not.
adam crigler
It feels like it.
tim pool
But hold on.
Let's let's let's let's actually break this down.
Where are the white supremacists right now?
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
They're not doing anything, right?
Are they doing press conferences?
Are they coming out and saying, like, here's a list?
No, they're not.
So what are they doing?
Where are they?
adam crigler
They're probably watching us all go down and laughing.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Hold on.
Hold on.
adam crigler
I have no idea.
tim pool
Or they realized that the actual path to getting what they want is to pretend to be on the left.
adam crigler
Yeah, OK, maybe.
tim pool
Think about what's going on right now.
adam crigler
It does feel like they're trying to make a divide.
tim pool
Orcs.
adam crigler
They're trying to divide everybody and make it about race.
lydia smith
This is very tangible.
tim pool
Orcs are not minorities. Orcs are not human beings.
adam crigler
They're not, exactly.
tim pool
So one of these people came out and made a comparison and the whole left went, yep.
adam crigler
Yep, we'll go with it.
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, whoa, bro.
They're monsters.
They're just fictional creatures that we fight as villains.
lydia smith
That is so demeaning.
tim pool
Now think about what's going on with the removal of these characters.
Now we can talk about Aunt Jemima because of her history as a character from her minstrel show, but Uncle Ben?
Literally just a farmer.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
Literally just a farmer.
And they said, get rid of him.
So the black icons of these old time brands are being purged.
Mrs. Butterworth's.
Did you hear this?
adam crigler
No, new one?
tim pool
They want to change the Mrs. Butterworth's because guess what?
The bottle of Mrs. Butterworth's corn syrup, not good by the way.
Gotta get that real Vermont stuff.
Take it from Sticks, Hex and Hammer.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
Okay, the bottle is the shape of a woman.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
It's supposed to be a regular old grandma.
But maple syrup is brown.
So people started complaining that it was a brown or black woman.
So they said they're going to be addressing the imagery they use and their brand.
White?
So you do have statues being torn down to be honest, right?
And the Confederates are being torn down.
Let's be real.
But I have to wonder why it is they're removing, why they're comparing orcs to minorities, and why they're removing Uncle Ben?
Mrs. Butterworth?
adam crigler
I don't get it.
tim pool
Well, who benefits from all of this?
Who benefits from segregation?
adam crigler
The supremacists.
I don't want to say white supremacists.
Just supremacists in general.
Both sides.
It doesn't matter where you are.
If you're a supremacist, you want division amongst the population.
tim pool
You saw what Terry Crews said.
adam crigler
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
For those that haven't seen it, Terry Crews, great actor, very funny guy.
He's great.
He's seen it.
He said, if we want to end white supremacy, we have to do it with white people, otherwise we get black supremacy.
He got tore up.
But he stuck to his guns and he did an interview where he said, I believe his wife is mixed race.
And he gets attacked for it.
He gets called all the racial slurs in the world for being successful, and he's like, we can't have this.
We gotta be equals.
We gotta be together.
And I'm like, right on, brother.
This dude's amazing.
The fact that he didn't back down, he went out and did an interview and explained what black supremacy was, I was like, wow, dude.
lydia smith
I was impressed, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's brave.
But you know what?
He gets it, because his wife gets attacked.
Man.
I can only imagine what it must be like for someone like Terry Crews to be successful and to be trying to make a better world for his family, for a wife who's mixed-race, and then to get attacked from both sides.
But here's the thing.
Both sides.
I'm not talking about regular Americans.
Yep.
adam crigler
The extremists.
tim pool
Exactly.
Dude, I'm telling you.
The extreme right doesn't do anything.
lydia smith
They sit back and wait.
tim pool
Or no, they just talk.
They just make YouTube videos.
The left is going out with pitchforks and torches.
And the extreme right is showing up to meetings and trying to have conversations with people.
adam crigler
Right.
And they don't want to have conversations.
They just want to screech and shove it down your throat.
tim pool
But the left is it works for them.
Like they're getting stuff done, man.
Look at all of the hard changes.
But that's that's the question I have.
And that's why people say that the left is they're white supremacists with guilty consciences.
Yeah, because it's not us regular liberals who immediately look at an orc and think, hmm, that reminds me of a minority group.
lydia smith
No.
tim pool
No.
lydia smith
Never.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
It's the left that said the goblins in Harry Potter were Jewish.
It was the left that said orcs were minorities, whatever.
That's true.
J.R.R.
Tolkien apparently was a staunch anti-racist.
Of course, yeah.
And orcs didn't represent minority groups.
adam crigler
They didn't represent human beings at all.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
I read this really big thing about like someone, some like a super, a super Tolkien fan who got really offended by the left's claim about racism or whatever.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And they broke down like Tolkien's history and like his personal views.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And they went through the lore and they were like, how dare you?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Like Lord of the Rings, you know?
adam crigler
There's some diehard Lord of the Rings fans out there.
unidentified
For sure.
adam crigler
They're, they're legitimate fans.
tim pool
And now Dungeons and Dragons, man.
What are they doing this?
They're doing a bunch of other things.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
This is so dumb.
adam crigler
It is.
And you know what?
I did a tweet earlier and I'm reading all the comments.
Everyone was like, we don't care what they say.
We make our own stories anyway.
And if you're not doing that, you're not playing it right.
lydia smith
Right.
That sounds right.
adam crigler
If you're going to play Dungeons and Dragons, do it yourself.
Make up your own story.
That's how I played it with my friends.
It's fun that way.
tim pool
So why do we need them to come out and tell us what orcs are?
lydia smith
We don't.
adam crigler
It's called virtue signaling.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
I think you're right.
adam crigler
That's what it is.
They're catering to the masses right now.
The masses that they think are the majority because they're the ones out there screaming the loudest.
tim pool
That's true.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That's why Crowder went off.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And that's why Crowder said silence is consent.
And I thought to myself when I watched the video this morning, I was like, whoa, dude.
Because that's what the left has been saying.
I hear what you mean.
I get it.
Man, I don't like the idea.
But it's true, man.
Now I laugh at the left when they say it because they're out screaming at the top of their lungs.
They're not silent.
And now we're seeing even crowders coming out and saying it.
I gotta tell you, man, from hearing from especially a lot of people in the chat, in the super chat about Trump, I'm not convinced he's gonna win at this point.
I was thinking landslide for a long time, watching everything.
But then I started talking to Trump supporters.
I reached out to a friend of mine, and they said, no way, I'm not voting for him again.
And I'm like, really?
Yeah.
adam crigler
Well, I'll tell you this.
I took a walk earlier today.
And I saw a lot of Trump signs.
tim pool
For sure.
adam crigler
I walk around our neighborhood a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
I've never seen them.
tim pool
You know, we're in a blue district.
adam crigler
But now, are we in a blue district?
tim pool
We're in a heavy blue district.
adam crigler
Well, let me tell you, there's Trump signs all over our neighborhood now.
I didn't see them two weeks ago, three weeks ago.
It was a, it was like, I was like, oh, look, what?
unidentified
They're everywhere!
adam crigler
They're popping up!
There's Trump supporters around here.
There's a lake.
tim pool
There's a lake nearby.
adam crigler
Right, I remember this.
tim pool
Somebody went into the middle of the lake.
It's like in the middle of the highway.
lydia smith
So weird.
tim pool
And they stuck a giant Trump flag.
adam crigler
In the center of the lake.
tim pool
In the center of the lake.
There's no dock.
lydia smith
Somebody... That was commitment.
tim pool
Yes, that was commitment.
lydia smith
Like, I'm doing it.
adam crigler
Yeah, they committed to that.
tim pool
But look, there's a lot of signs.
So here's what I'm feeling.
I'm seeing all these things and I'm like, Trump landslide, dude.
Riots, explosions, insults, derision, oh yeah.
And then I started seeing a bunch of Trump supporters like, man, some people that I really, really, like high profile people being like, nope.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
And you know what it could be?
It could be that they're trying to make sure Hubris doesn't stand in Trump's way.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Because if everyone is so convinced he'll win, they'll be like, I don't need to vote, he'll win.
And then he loses.
adam crigler
Maybe that's it.
tim pool
And so they need to maintain, maybe, maybe, I don't know though, man.
But, man.
adam crigler
I think he's going to win.
tim pool
Here's what's crazy.
The people who are complaining about Trump are complaining he doesn't do enough, right?
So what you basically have are conservatives demanding a stronger strongman.
lydia smith
Yep.
adam crigler
More authority.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
So I was reading some threads and it was interesting because some people were saying, like, I saw some tweets from people saying that they weren't going to support Trump anymore, that he's let them down.
That scares me.
That's a good point.
someone else was, do you have any idea what will happen if Trump doesn't win?
If the Republicans don't win?
It's like, you may be upset that the Republicans aren't doing anything, but at
least they're holding back what could be if the Democrats get in at this point.
So, so I'll tell you what, man, you look at the Democrats 10 years ago and they
were saying very similar things to Trump, even Bernie Sanders.
And then the rise of the far left happened, and then all you get to do is just take a Google search, Democrats, Neal.
adam crigler
We should call them alt-left.
tim pool
Well, they've been called alt-left for a long time.
adam crigler
Oh, I haven't heard that.
tim pool
The alt-left was a reference to the identitarian left.
adam crigler
That's what it is.
lydia smith
That's who they are.
tim pool
Yeah, and they got really mad about it, and they were like, it's not fair you can't call us that because the alt-right calls themselves alt-right, and I'm like, I don't care what you, I'm gonna call you whatever I want.
adam crigler
Well, I'm gonna start using it from now on.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's good.
adam crigler
But they are.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
There's no difference.
They're trying to divide us.
They're making, like, shoving race down everyone's throat, segregating us.
Like, I don't want to be segregated.
I like someone on their valor of their heart and their mind.
That's what makes a character, not your skin color.
tim pool
Right.
lydia smith
Right.
unidentified
Yup.
adam crigler
Period.
lydia smith
Yeah, of course.
adam crigler
So they're alt-left.
tim pool
Well, alt-left, it's a reference to identitarianism.
unidentified
Okay.
lydia smith
Yeah, they are identitarianism.
tim pool
So the alt-right, identitarian-right, alt-left, identitarian-left.
And it's freaky, man.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
It's just, people don't realize what that means to live with this racial policy stuff.
It is authoritarianism to the max.
There's an overlap with communism.
They won't let you change your circumstances.
You are what you are.
Nah.
adam crigler
F that.
tim pool
I'm not cool with that.
I am of the persuasion that we're all dealt a card of hands in life.
We're all dealt a hand of cards.
lydia smith
A card of hands.
That sounds terrible.
tim pool
Yeah.
A card with hands on it.
unidentified
We're all dealt a hand of cards.
tim pool
There we go.
And sometimes you get a really bad hand.
But I'll tell you what, man, I've watched some pretty good poker games where a dude has a trash hand and he wins the pot.
And that means you may come from bad circumstances and you can make it.
That's America.
Think about the race-based policy.
Dude, it blows my mind that my friends that I talk to periodically, when I try to explain to them what they're doing and why it's bad and racist, and they're convinced they're better.
Harvard, for instance.
One, the right to discriminate based on race.
Straight up.
adam crigler
Seriously?
tim pool
Yeah.
So Harvard has a high density of Asians.
Okay.
So they created a program because if we have too many Asians, we need to get more Latinos and black students.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
So they set lower thresholds.
If you're an Asian and you want to get into Harvard, you got to score like a 1330 on the SATs.
Wow.
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's like what Oxford's doing now.
They're like, oh, if you're black, you don't have to do as much work.
tim pool
You want to know why this is horrifying?
adam crigler
Excuse me?
How degrading is that?
You don't have to work as hard because you can't do what any other race is doing.
Like, excuse me?
How is that not crazy racism right there?
tim pool
Well, let me tell you.
adam crigler
Oxford.
Talking to you.
tim pool
Here's what the left says when you bring up the Asian thing.
They say, well we're trying to create equality and there's too many Asians there, right?
And my response is, I don't know, are they Iranian?
Are they Indian?
Are they Chinese?
Laotian?
Vietnamese?
Japanese?
What do you mean by Asian?
lydia smith
Yeah, those people are Asian.
tim pool
What does that mean?
adam crigler
No, we clump them all together.
tim pool
Exactly.
lydia smith
They're all the same.
tim pool
And so here's what they don't tell you.
What they don't tell you is that the Asians at Harvard are wealthy Indian immigrants and wealthy Chinese immigrants.
And so what they're telling you... Here's what I said to my friends.
I was like, do me a favor.
You're okay with this?
Institutional racism?
All right.
I know a kid, 13 years old, from the south side of Chicago, living in the gutter.
A friend of mine's got a kid, okay?
They're poor.
I want you to go to that kid, look him right in the eyes, and say, honey, you can't go to Harvard because you look too much like that person.
That's it.
That's the only reason why you can't do that.
adam crigler
That's it.
tim pool
And that's the left has won.
It didn't used to be that way.
You know, it used to be that way a long time ago.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Decades ago.
We won.
We passed laws.
You can't do it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
We're all created equal.
The content of your character, not the color of your skin.
adam crigler
Boom.
tim pool
And here comes the Democrats.
adam crigler
Is this funny?
Where did we lose that?
And how are people fighting for that right now?
tim pool
The Democrats, when did they stop being racist?
lydia smith
Never.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
Yeah, they never did.
lydia smith
They just changed it over.
adam crigler
Yeah, Biden has said in the past month, If you ain't voting for me, if you haven't figured out that you're voting for me, you ain't black.
It's like, excuse me?
What did you just say, dude?
Are you kidding me?
tim pool
Who was that Republican we just watched?
Was it Sean Parnell?
Is that his name?
adam crigler
Sean Parnell, yeah.
tim pool
That ad was amazing.
adam crigler
It was great.
tim pool
I loved it.
So there's a Republican named Sean Parnell, and it's a really great ad.
It was going viral.
People were shouting it like crazy.
But he like walks up to a screen and he's like, I'll never tell you who you should vote for based on your race or your ethnicity.
And then he looks and then it shows Joe Biden saying it.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he's like, he shrugs and he walks away.
And I'm like, yeah, dude, come on, man.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
You see what they said about, what's the senator's name?
Tom Scott?
lydia smith
Tom Scott?
Yeah, Tim Scott.
tim pool
Tim Scott.
lydia smith
I believe.
tim pool
Ooh, that's a great name.
lydia smith
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
It's the best name.
They called his police reform plan a token gesture or something.
lydia smith
Dude!
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
These people sicken me, man.
adam crigler
They don't have any ideas themselves.
tim pool
The Democrats?
adam crigler
A lot of these people screeching.
tim pool
Oh, for sure.
adam crigler
They don't have any ideas.
tim pool
They don't know what they're screeching for.
adam crigler
They don't even know what they're screeching for.
Yep.
lydia smith
Do they even notice they're using words like token?
That's my question.
tim pool
They do.
Right.
Remember that video we talked about that 18-year-old girl getting arrested and hyperventilating?
Oh, yeah.
And they're like, she needs her dialysis!
adam crigler
Oh, the Be Gay Do Crime show?
Right, right, yes.
tim pool
In that video, they shout racial slurs at the cops.
Straight up.
I'm like, I went to a rally in Los Angeles.
I think it was a Black Lives Matter rally.
And Trump supporters were having their own march.
I can't remember exactly what it was.
Everybody was marching.
And then two groups come together and the cops kept them separated.
And they were, guess what?
The Trump group was ethnically diverse.
Okay, didn't really mean anything to me. I don't know Until I heard the left start screaming racial slurs do Wow
like hard n-word that's a bunch of other things I can't say the c-word. They got words for it man. Take
this is what Terry Crews was talking about Yep, the words they use I won't even say and I think the
adam crigler
left like excuse me the alt left Yes.
tim pool
No, I mean, I'm sorry, man.
lydia smith
The whole left?
adam crigler
The full-on left?
tim pool
It's fair, I guess, to call them the alt-left, but they've taken over.
Their ideology is pervasive.
If you don't bend the knee, they'll come for you.
They'll take your job.
And so, yeah, at a point it was alt-left, but now, I'll tell you what, man, They've started purging media companies.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And now the high-ranking positions are being dominated by this cult.
The Washington Post announced that they're opening up a whole bunch of new jobs specifically for the new religion.
Think about that.
How would you feel if the New York Times announced that they were bringing on a new director of Judaism?
Literally.
And they were like, they're going to oversee our entire staff to make sure there's enough Judaism in our office.
adam crigler
People would flip out.
lydia smith
That'd be so weird.
tim pool
They wouldn't necessarily flip out, but they'd be like, that's weird.
Nah, I'll tell you what if they did Christianity.
lydia smith
Oh, then they would flip out.
tim pool
It would be nuts.
lydia smith
It would be unacceptable.
tim pool
People would be throwing things.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, they'd flip out.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
But I just mean, you know, I chose Judaism because I'm just trying to bring up like any religion.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
You know, like Buddhism.
People would be like, what?
Why is a newspaper going to have a director that oversees all of the staff and makes sure they're all talking about Buddhism enough?
adam crigler
I know, it's just interesting because they do seem awfully, like, anti-Jew, which is... Oh, for sure, man.
tim pool
The mainstreaming of Farrakhan.
unidentified
Right?
lydia smith
Yeah, the overlap between the alt-right and the alt-left, man.
tim pool
I want you all listening to think for one second.
What would you say to somebody if they started, you know, showing off Nazi imagery and iconography and symbols, and then you brought up the mainstreaming of Hitler, and they said, well, you know, I don't much care for him, I mean, he's a bad guy, but I really like what the party is doing.
You'd be like, what?
No way, dude.
adam crigler
I bet we could find quotes from Farrakhan and quotes from Hitler and ask people, like, which one is which?
lydia smith
We should do that.
adam crigler
Which one?
tim pool
Well, to be fair, there's a lot of, like, just because someone's evil doesn't mean you're not gonna be able to find a quote that someone would agree with.
lydia smith
Yeah, but they'd have to be the same thing.
tim pool
Like, that's the joke.
adam crigler
Hitler had a dog, too.
It's not that they agree with, but who said it?
If Hitler's evil and Farrakhan isn't evil.
tim pool
Well, that'd be a trick.
is you can find a quote from Farrakhan where he says, I sure do love a good cheeseburger on a Sunday afternoon.
Right.
And people are gonna be like, I don't know.
lydia smith
Well, that'd be a trick.
adam crigler
That's not really the quotes that I would be looking for.
tim pool
I understand what you mean, but what I'm saying is, there's probably a lot of political quotes from Farrakhan
that are probably fine.
adam crigler
Sure.
tim pool
And that's the point.
adam crigler
Like, you could probably say the same thing about Hitler, but he's still an evil person.
tim pool
For sure.
That's why James Lindsay and Boghossian and Helen Pluckrose were able to take a section of Mein Kampf and change it to feminist words, and they ate it up.
But that was actually a really horrifying passage, though.
They went for, like, one of the worst.
adam crigler
Wow, really?
And people still ate it up?
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Yeah.
tim pool
You know, there was something really funny that happened in 2016.
Gullible people, man.
There was a letter that was written about coming out to their parents as gay.
Somebody changed the word gay with Trump supporter.
And then Trump supporters started sharing it, because they were like, wow.
Because it was like, I had to tell my parents today that I was supporting Trump, and they
got so angry at me, they told me to get out, they wouldn't accept it.
And I'm like, that's such a weird thing.
It's so weird.
I think Brandon Strzok says that.
Like it was easier to come out as gay than it was to say you supported Trump?
lydia smith
A few people have said that it's easier to come out as being gay or like transgender than it is to come out as being a Republican.
tim pool
Oh yeah, I think Blair mentioned it too.
adam crigler
Yeah, there was that tweet that was floating around last week.
It was like, you get more like crap for being a Trump supporter than being a minority nowadays.
Unless you are... I'm not saying it's true or not.
I don't know.
But, you know, it's been floating around.
Mad people shared it.
It's like that's kind of in line with what we're talking about.
tim pool
If you are a black Trump supporter, the left will use every racial slur in the book.
adam crigler
I've seen them, man.
I've seen... I try to follow a lot of different people from all sides of the spectrum to get a really good broad range of views from everybody, you know?
And it's like, I don't want one source.
I want all the sources.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
You know, and I'm seeing them out there and they're like, you know what?
We don't care.
I don't care what they say about me because I love my life.
I'm successful.
And I'm like, good for you.
Like good.
tim pool
Weren't the, weren't the eugenicists, the progressive party, like the progressives were eugenicists in the early 1900s?
lydia smith
I believe so.
tim pool
I think so.
lydia smith
And I know of a very prominent progressive figure who is still admired and revered by the far left or the far left and the intermediate.
tim pool
Hold on, there's a lot of progressives that are admired by the far left.
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Eugenics.
tim pool
Oh, you mean there's a prominent eugenicist?
lydia smith
Oh, she was even a woman.
Yeah, it was very nice.
And her name was Margaret Sanger.
And she's still admired and revered by the people at Planned Parenthood.
So, yeah, it's interesting.
tim pool
You know about genetics, right?
adam crigler
Yeah, I do.
tim pool
Yeah, that's messed up, dude.
adam crigler
Yes, it is.
lydia smith
She's the only one I really know of, though.
tim pool
What the eugenicist people don't realize, and that's my concern, is like, I wonder how many of these leftists are secretly eugenicists.
They don't realize that homogenizing gene pools is actually weakening the species.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They seem to think that there's a path, and that's like, no, that's not the case.
adam crigler
No, we get stronger by mixing our DNA.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
That's survival.
tim pool
I'll tell you what, man.
adam crigler
People last longer by mixing their genes because, you know, I have certain, you know, resistances to certain things, you know, and the next person might not.
We mix and create a child that is stronger.
tim pool
This is why.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
They took diversity is a strength, which is factually true, and they completely twisted it into a weird, bizarro zombie of authoritarian nonsense.
Because I'll tell you what, man, it is doublespeak.
Let me ask you a question.
First, let's point out the simple reality of diversity.
We don't just mean genetics.
We mean opinions, ideas, thoughts.
The original idea was supposed to be that if you had a dude who was from, say, India or China, and he came here, they'd be like, I have seen the world in a very different way from you.
Let me show you what I've seen.
And then you'll be like, wow, I never thought of that.
So it's not just about their race.
It was about who they were.
But yes, there have been many studies talking about like an analog to hybrid vigor in mixed-race peoples.
So these things are true.
But let me ask you a question.
If they really believed diversity was a strength, why would they segregate farms and buildings?
And why would they call for this weird segregation type stuff?
adam crigler
I don't know.
tim pool
Because they're liars.
Yeah, they know it's not true.
Because they're manipulating everybody.
They've pulled the wool over their eyes or whatever.
And so now you have people saying things like this, diversity is our strength.
And you know, they don't actually mean that.
It's doublespeak.
They're the ones actively trying to equate an orc to a racial minority.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's messed up.
tim pool
They don't really believe diversity is a strength.
And I pointed this out too, because Tucker Carlson did a segment on this saying it wasn't.
And he made a good point saying that cohesion is important and working together and having a shared culture is important.
It's like, yes, you're absolutely right.
adam crigler
Yeah.
We're a melting pot.
That's what America is.
tim pool
The shared culture of America is the umbrella of our Constitution, and so long as people come under that, then we're not falling apart.
But my rebuttal to that was, Tucker has on probably the most diverse set of opinions for any cable show.
Brian Stelter of CNN, he won't have on real critics.
Rachel Maddow won't have on real critics.
None of them will.
Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, they won't.
adam crigler
Well, Don Lemon, I feel like he had that police chief who ripped him apart.
He was regretting that.
tim pool
Exactly.
adam crigler
He was like, we're gonna go to commercial.
He's not saying what I want him to say.
tim pool
Tucker Carlson actively tries to get He does.
lydia smith
He had the Antifa dude on.
tim pool
He had a bunch of different Antifa people.
lydia smith
Yeah, he had the giraffe professor on.
tim pool
Yeah, the giraffe professor.
lydia smith
Oh man, what a neck.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
And I'm like, there it is, bro.
I was like, you absolutely do represent the strength in having different ideas come on and be challenged.
And that's diversity of opinion.
When you homogenize things, it weakens.
Because then your opportunity for finding a solution is more limited.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
But there's boundaries, there's limits, right?
I'm not literally saying take, you know, people from all over the world, put them in a room together, shake it up and see what happens.
I'm saying no.
We have a constitution.
adam crigler
We have... And in that constitution it says you shall smash the like button.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, that is the constitution.
adam crigler
Well, the constitution here... Does it not say that?
Oh, our constitution.
Sorry, did I not specify?
lydia smith
Yeah, he's talking about the U.S.
Constitution.
tim pool
No, so I you know, I've made videos about this and it's funny when they try and claim that I'm not It's it look man.
I don't I don't care if people call me left or right It literally is meaningless, but I'll tell you what like even Zuby tweeted out Zuby the rapper great dude Yeah, that institutional racism and systemic race and are real and they're pervasive, but it's probably too deep to get into a big thread on Twitter Yeah, something that effect.
Yeah, and I'm I probably a different perspective on him.
adam crigler
I He's a smart dude though.
tim pool
He's a really smart dude.
adam crigler
He posts a lot of smart ideas about what's going on that a lot of people don't want to address.
They want to skip the stuff that he's talking about.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So here's what's going on right now.
There are people who are legit center-left, left, liberal, whatever.
And they're like, you know, Brett and Eric Weinstein, people like you and me probably, Zuby.
Well, actually, I think Zuby is a conservative.
And now it's just called the politically homeless.
Because the left is now dominated by this fringe, dogmatic, race-based... Yeah, I don't agree with that.
...double-speak.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
And conservatives have a bunch of views that, I mean, a lot of them I don't agree with.
adam crigler
Same here.
tim pool
However, the disagreements I have with conservatives are relatively minor compared to the threat of our fundamental existence as a freedom-loving people.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So what basically happens is the umbrella that is America is under attack by forces that are outside that umbrella.
So liberals and conservatives, the legit Americans, actually there was a graph about this.
It was really fascinating.
It shows where Democratic voters were and Trump voters were based on a spectrum
of social issues and economic issues.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Trump voters were all on the top of social issues, opposing social justice narratives and authoritarianism,
but spread out economically.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Meaning you literally have 50-50 of Trump supporters between progressive economics and more laissez-faire economics, but the Democrats were all clustered in socialist social justice.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
So that's what I mean to say.
There are people who probably in 2008 voted for Obama.
And we definitely know this for sure.
10 million people went from Obama to Trump.
And it's because you have Trump's base is actually split up between people who are just about America, but they disagree on, should we have higher taxes, lower taxes?
Should we have better health, like more, more taxpayer funded healthcare type ideas, public option or universal versus private.
And then you have the democratic party, social justice.
Or whatever social justice means.
I see you're getting ready to spin that there UFO.
adam crigler
I get the feeling that people want the UFO spinning.
lydia smith
I'm sensing it too.
tim pool
Is it true?
adam crigler
Do you want me to spin the UFO?
I think it's true.
lydia smith
I think it is.
tim pool
Sure.
adam crigler
I'm gonna spin it.
tim pool
And then let's jump over to the Trump triangle story.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So, you know, normally we do like to open with the lead story, but I actually think it makes a lot more sense to actually save it so that everybody can- Yeah, I guess we really didn't talk about it, did we?
Well, no, but I think this makes more sense for those that are listening.
The general idea is that by the time most people get here, you see this lead, Facebook bans Trump, but we do it in the first 10, 20 minutes, and then by the time you get here, it's like we're not talking about it.
adam crigler
Right, right, right.
So before we do, Smash that like button!
tim pool
Smash it!
Smash that subscribe button!
Smash that notification bell!
unidentified
And smash the share button!
tim pool
Twitter and Facebook is preferred.
unidentified
Good work, everyone.
tim pool
We're still in the same vein of the discussion, but check this out.
adam crigler
Yeah, pretty much.
tim pool
This is a weird story.
adam crigler
Yeah, you know more about it than I do.
I didn't really read into this.
lydia smith
Yeah, this is weird.
tim pool
Facebook removes Trump ad that identifies Antifa with red triangle similar to Nazi symbol.
Now I want to stop right there.
It's not a Nazi symbol.
lydia smith
Okay.
tim pool
It was a symbol used by Nazis to identify prisoners, but the reason I'm drawing that distinction is that we know what their actual iconography was.
The Nazis didn't walk around with this.
They did use it.
So I think it's fair, but I think there's a semantics issue here.
And the reason I'm trying to separate this is when you say that Trump was using a Nazi symbol, people are going to imagine very specific things.
Not whatever this thing is, right?
But I've chosen forward.com specifically because I believe they're a Jewish publication, correct?
lydia smith
I do not know.
unidentified
Forward?
tim pool
Yes, I'm pretty sure they are.
So I wanted to get their perspective.
And then I got Breitbart, which counters this narrative.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
But this is an overall weird story for a couple reasons.
One, it's not a widely known symbol to anyone for any reason.
adam crigler
I had never heard of it.
tim pool
And I've been covering this stuff for a decade.
Never saw it.
lydia smith
Yeah, I'd never seen it.
tim pool
Never saw it.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
So if you want to argue Trump is dog whistling, to who?
I don't know.
I don't know.
To a couple hundred people.
It's weird.
There's a conspiracy theory on the left that Trump did this to crop dust, get as close
as possible to Nazi symbols, so that Facebook would ban him and he could claim bias.
That's a conspiracy theory though.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's kind of a long stretch.
tim pool
Yeah, but it is used by the left.
And Breitbart proves this.
So it's an overall just totally weird story.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
But the other big thing about it being weird is how the media contacts Facebook and says, see this triangle?
It's racist.
lydia smith
Just so you know.
tim pool
Just so you know.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And then Facebook goes, you got it.
Bans them.
lydia smith
Ridiculous.
tim pool
There's another weird thing, too.
And this was... Let me just read this story real quick.
adam crigler
Yeah, read it, read it.
tim pool
In two Facebook posts, Donald Trump's re-election campaign tied the loose network of Antifa, which he suggests is naming a terror organization, to an upside-down red triangle, a symbol strikingly similar to one used by Nazis in concentration camps to identify political prisoners and communists.
So they show the symbol, actually, you can see it here on this prison uniform.
Dangerous mobs of far-left groups are running through our streets and causing absolute mayhem, the post reads, citing no evidence for the claim.
Are you joking?
Do you need to put that in your report?
lydia smith
You've got to be kidding.
adam crigler
Seriously.
tim pool
Please add your name immediately to stand with your president and his decision to declare Antifa a terror organization.
Facebook later deleted the ads, saying the ads went against the company's policy against organized hate.
Our policy prohibits using banned hate group symbols to identify political prisoners without the context that condemns or discusses the symbol.
This is not a symbol used by the Nazis.
And I want to be specific by that.
It was used in concentration camps to identify prisoners.
It wasn't on the uniforms of the Nazis.
It wasn't a pro-Nazi thing.
They don't fly the flag of this.
And it's not labeled by any group, as far as I can tell, as a hate symbol.
So what is Facebook saying?
So they go on to mention, you know, what it was.
Political prisoners would wear a red triangle with a P on it.
And you can see here the variations of it.
But there are also other symbols that were used.
And mind you, this is all really, really disgusting stuff.
I think everybody in the world, you know, the Nazis are truly one of the purest evils we've experienced on this planet.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
Indeed.
tim pool
They say, Yet Rabbi Yaakov Menken, the managing director of the conservative Jewish group, the Coalition for Jewish Values, said he did not believe the ad represented an instance of anti-Semitism by Trump or his campaign, and instead suggested that it was Antifa that was at fault for unknowingly using a Nazi symbol.
Antifa has been and is very threatening to Jewish houses of worship and schools, etc.
Menken said, citing reports, mostly false and exaggerated.
lydia smith
Wow.
Who's running interference for Antifa here?
tim pool
Let's jump over here where Breitbart tries to break it down.
targeting synagogues in some cities during the recent wave of protests.
The fact that Trump is fighting so hard against Antifa is only to the benefit of the Jewish
community.
Trump and other Republican politicians have seized on false reports of people in line
with Antifa inciting riots in cities.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get that point.
But let's jump over here where Breitbart tries to break it down.
Facebook's excuse to censor Trump, a red triangle, has long history as Antifa symbol.
First of all, they highlight this.
Antifa Utrecht.
I found this as well.
This image is from 2016.
It is a red, upside-down triangle.
I also found this right here, which is also a very old symbol.
It is Antifa 2018, and it's a red triangle.
And then this person points out, red triangle symbol of anti-fascist resistance from an anti-fascist research center.
They show the red triangle.
They also mention it's been used in other books.
They also mentioned there is a pin used in 1890 for left-wing militants.
They wore the red triangle.
So there you go, I guess, I don't know what to tell you.
But I do find the story rather weird, for a lot of reasons.
One, Media Matters comes out and says, Facebook let the Trump campaign run 88 ads with inverted red triangles, an infamous Nazi symbol.
I think that's a fake tweet, you know why?
adam crigler
Why?
tim pool
Forward, which was very defensive of Antifa, said two ads.
88 is a very specific number.
adam crigler
That's a lot.
tim pool
No, no, no.
It's a very... 88.
adam crigler
It's a number.
I know, I know.
Right, I learned this from the Magic card.
tim pool
That's right, that's right.
unidentified
Now you know.
tim pool
Now for those of you that have gotten the educational course on the Magic the Gathering card that was racist, there was a number associated with it, and I'll just put it this way.
H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.
So Media Matters says this.
Maybe it's true.
But forward says two, and forward was not forgiving of Trump, so at least I'll say it's contested at this point.
But I'll tell you this, Trump War Room responded to not just this tweet, but a bunch of other ones saying, this is an emoji, the red triangle.
It's also a symbol widely used by Antifa.
It was used in an ad about Antifa.
It is not in the ADL's hate symbol database.
And they show this image right here, which apparently is on some website where they sell t-shirts, like somebody made the graphic and uploaded it.
It's apparently an older image.
But I do think it's weird that Trump team is now responding to all these groups to try and just like to prove it wasn't a Nazi symbol or something.
You know what I think?
I think they didn't think anything about the symbol.
I don't think it was on purpose.
It would be really, really weird to use some fringe symbol in this way.
adam crigler
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
I think if you dig around enough, you will find a ton of symbols.
So another example of this is you may have seen the image of the it's the Gadsden snake with the revolution fist crushing it.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
There's actually an image used in Nazi Germany of an arm with a Nazi patch strangling a snake.
And so people are showing these two symbols to claim the left is now using Nazi imagery.
lydia smith
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
You can find anything probably from a bunch of different groups because there's lots of different art, there's lots of different symbols that have been used.
And I do think it's rather absurd that it looks like yes.
Now, I disagree with the wide use of Antifa and the symbol because I have not seen it.
adam crigler
Do you think they're going to start changing yield signs?
lydia smith
I don't know.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
adam crigler
That yield sign makes me uncomfortable every time I come here and have to yield.
lydia smith
Yeah, because now I've heard about this.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
And I'm scared of red triangles.
adam crigler
Oh, man.
tim pool
So here, pull this up.
lydia smith
Oh, here we go.
tim pool
We will tread.
It's overt authoritarianism.
adam crigler
Definitely.
tim pool
The Gadsden flag is supposed to represent the snake saying, if you come near me, it's a rattlesnake.
It's warning you.
adam crigler
I'll bite you.
tim pool
I'll bite you if you come near me.
But it's basically about, leave me alone.
Just let me do my thing.
You do yours, I'll do mine.
This is the opposite.
The fist is strangling the snake who said, leave me alone.
Think about what that represents.
Now their argument is that, but the Gadsden flag has been co-opted by evil groups.
It's like, look man, I understand their point of view.
These are the people who think the OK symbol is a white power gesture now.
adam crigler
Right, so stupid.
tim pool
They don't understand the concept of symbols, so I'll tell you this.
If you believe that the association of a symbol proves the inter- the- what- what- you know,
what the person- like, if you think that symbols can change instantly, if you think that anything
that's similar in any way to another symbol, for whatever reason, milk, okay sign, is that
symbol, no matter what they intended, okay, then you just made a Nazi symbol right there.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
I don't have the image to pull up, but it's an arm with a snake wrapped around it and
And it says something like the two evils or whatever.
And it's a reference to like things they didn't like, you know.
And it was probably racist or something in some way.
lydia smith
I'm sure.
tim pool
But you can probably easily find it.
I don't know if you're looking it up.
adam crigler
I'll try.
tim pool
But so the point I'm making is if Trump's red triangle is a Nazi symbol, then I'll tell you what, then so is this.
So is we will tread.
lydia smith
Right.
tim pool
It's the same thing.
A fist strangling a snake.
adam crigler
Is that it?
unidentified
Yep.
adam crigler
All right, I'll pull it up.
lydia smith
Oh, we found it.
tim pool
Yeah, and I've found it.
adam crigler
It didn't take long.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
Because it's a known Nazi propaganda image.
adam crigler
All right, it's in the... Oh, here, let me... Yeah, you got it.
tim pool
You want to pull it up?
I'll get it, I'll get it.
adam crigler
Yeah, you got it.
lydia smith
We're very coordinated.
tim pool
Yeah, we are.
Where's it at?
adam crigler
Top one.
Top one.
tim pool
This right here?
adam crigler
Yeah, that's it.
lydia smith
It's all good.
I did not know that about the Nazi snake arm.
tim pool
Here, pull this up.
Here we go.
So this is an image that, as far as I know, and it's actually, the image here is cropped because there's a lot more, but it's probably better that way because, I mean, YouTube's gonna ban this video or whatever, you know, because we're showing this.
lydia smith
So what was the snake?
adam crigler
Well, now show the other one now.
tim pool
The fist strangling the snake.
Used by Nazis.
adam crigler
Awfully familiar.
tim pool
And it's a red and black flag.
Who else used red and black?
You see my point is, look, I don't really think these dumb kids here understood what they were doing.
Nope.
But the media's gonna come out and say, Trump knew what he was doing!
Of course.
lydia smith
He's a mastermind.
tim pool
And now I'm seeing on Facebook people saying, can you believe that Trump ran Nazi symbols for his campaign?
adam crigler
I see it too.
And it's like, are you serious?
Did you look into it at all?
tim pool
You know what my response is?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Wow, that's crazy, dude.
Did you see those Antifa people also flying the Nazi symbols?
And they'll go, what?
That's not true.
But yeah, dude, the snake strangling, the fist strangling the snake.
And they'll go, that's not what that means.
And I'll be like, Well, I mean, you just told me a triangle.
adam crigler
A triangle, so that's what that means.
lydia smith
How do you know that?
Yeah.
adam crigler
Where this one's way more legitimately authoritarian.
Like, clearly it is.
tim pool
And it's extremely specific.
adam crigler
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
But come on, man, do these kids, do they really know, I don't think they know anything about Nazi Germany or anything like that.
I think they have the two flags, the Gadsden flag and the fist, and they interpret the Gadsden flag the way that their cult tells them to, that it's evil.
So they made a flag to oppose it.
It's authoritarian, it's creepy, and yes, it's very similar to Nazi... It's capitalism.
It's Nazi iconography, is what they say.
So I'll tell you what, you want to play this game, we can play this game.
Every single thing they ever do, we'll just pull up and be like, oh, look, oh, they're doing it again.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
It's like anything they use.
You have an X, the Bluetooth symbol.
It's a rune.
I think it's Danish or something.
lydia smith
Yeah, it actually is based on a king.
tim pool
Oh, is it?
lydia smith
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
The Bluetooth.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
This image is rather crazy though, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
So I tweet, I didn't literally mean it.
I said, so they're admitting to being fascist.
So they're just admitting to being fascist now.
And collective squealing came from the far left.
You don't know what fascism means, man!
And I'm like, I'm insulting you, okay?
I don't literally think... Just take the L. Yeah, you're like, I'm insulting you.
I understand you're an authoritarian communist, and there's a difference between that and fascism, okay?
Please, calm down.
But yeah, that's... I mean... If we're gonna start playing this game, and Facebook's gonna ban these people, I gotta think maybe Trump did know what he was doing.
And not Trump personally, but his campaign seems to be pretty crafty.
adam crigler
Hmm.
tim pool
But this is a weird story, man, because I can't imagine it was on purpose.
This really does feel like the Trump team didn't know what they were doing.
I've not seen the red triangle used before.
adam crigler
Right.
tim pool
I really doubt they started digging through Nazi history and they were like, there we go!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the one symbol we'll use.
Why didn't they use a Star of David or why didn't they use the blue one or whatever?
adam crigler
No, I mean, it showed right there on the Breitbart article, it showed Antifa using the upside-down triangle as their symbol.
It's like, okay, so yeah, I guess it kind of makes sense.
What other symbol would you say represents Antifa?
I don't know.
unidentified
The flag.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, they do have a flag, the black and red flag.
adam crigler
A black and red flag, huh?
lydia smith
Yeah, we agree, I know.
adam crigler
Similar colors.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
Because it represents Oh, what does it represent?
Labor and something else.
The Libertarian flag is yellow and black.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, so I can't remember exactly why they split the colors that way.
But then the communists fly a straight red flag.
That's why the We Will Tread is just red.
And then the anarcho-communists, it's red and black, which represents, I think, communism and labor or something like that.
adam crigler
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Whatever.
Well, welcome to the the world of stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The complete world of stupid.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's pretty nuts.
tim pool
Well, the crazy thing is the censorship that Trump's ads removed.
It wasn't running anyway.
But I do think the story is weird.
I do think a story is weird.
It's like I think it's just a triangle and I don't think you can draw anything from it.
So you might as well just ignore it other than that.
But Facebook took it down.
What if what if that's insane?
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
Red triangles are now a bannable offense.
lydia smith
That's so strange.
adam crigler
I guess so.
tim pool
That's just weird.
Is there anything else the Nazis wore?
Their uniforms were brown?
Are all brown- UPS banned?
lydia smith
Oh gosh, I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
Don't they wear blue?
unidentified
UPS?
adam crigler
Oh, UPS.
tim pool
I'm thinking of the- Isn't their slogan, What Can Brown Do For You?
adam crigler
No, I was thinking USPS.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Is their slogan really, What Can Brown Do For You?
lydia smith
Yes, unfortunately, I wish that's the worst- Terrible slogan.
adam crigler
Worst slogan ever.
lydia smith
Well, that's racist.
tim pool
Right.
adam crigler
They're gone.
lydia smith
Oh, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, for sure.
Bye, UPS.
lydia smith
We'll see if that happens tomorrow.
unidentified
Wow.
adam crigler
What Can Brown Do For You?
Get cancelled.
Yeah, for real.
Oh, man.
tim pool
Everything's gonna be out man.
adam crigler
That's it.
tim pool
That's it.
adam crigler
It's only a matter of time before people stand up.
tim pool
Well, I'll tell you what don't speaking of history.
Oh Speaking of history.
adam crigler
Oh, yeah this this is interesting.
unidentified
Oh was Beethoven black, huh?
tim pool
You know what?
I gotta be honest.
I don't really care.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
That's what I said.
tim pool
Yeah.
adam crigler
Why?
What does it matter?
His music was great.
lydia smith
He made cool music.
adam crigler
He's glorious.
It doesn't matter if what your color of your skin is.
If you do something amazing, I want to, I want to give you props for it.
tim pool
Now that's true.
And what is it saying?
That, uh, he who controls the past controls the present and he who controls the present controls the future.
adam crigler
What was that from?
tim pool
1984.
Is it?
lydia smith
It is.
Yeah.
unidentified
Is it?
tim pool
I don't know if I got the quote right.
lydia smith
It might be.
That is 100% from 1984.
Who controls the past controls the present.
He controls the present controls the future.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Some version of this.
Yeah.
Tim and I between us.
I think.
Got it.
You know what we're talking about.
tim pool
Yeah.
So... Hmm.
adam crigler
Where is this even founded?
Where are they coming with this?
tim pool
So this is actually listed on a ton of verified news outlet sources talking about that maybe they changed his race because it was racist back then and he was actually black.
Let's pull this up.
Here's a story from MeAwe.com.
Was Beethoven black?
Bizarre post claims composer was African.
Internet says history is being whitewashed.
According to a picture being circulated on the internet, Beethoven may have been a black man and not the white man we have seen in his portraits.
Now here's my prediction.
The first thing we see is the question, could it be true?
And then once they see it enough, then you'll start seeing it morph.
The story will morph.
It'll say, while many people do believe he was actually black, they'll passively say it.
Then later on they'll say, while originally incorrectly called white in history books, Beethoven, a black man, actually did this.
And they change history.
They change it.
Here's what they say.
There is no death of bizarre theories on the internet.
The latest one to hop onto the bandwagon is none other than a theory about the greatest composer of all time, Ludwig van Beethoven.
We all know Beethoven as the famous German composer and the mastermind behind several popular classical musical pieces like Fifth Symphony, Moonlight Sonata, among many others.
According to a picture being circulated on the internet, Beethoven may have been a black man and not the white man we have seen in his portraits.
Now I want to make absolutely clear, I really wouldn't care if he was, wasn't.
I don't care if he was Chinese or Muslim or whatever.
I think his music was fantastic.
And I think Moonlight Sonata is one of the greatest songs ever written.
It's incredible.
I love that song.
And the issue here for me is more about, are people going to be able to change history?
What if someone found a famous black inventor and then changed it?
And said he wasn't actually black, actually.
Actually, it was this event.
We wouldn't want to do that either.
We want to respect the people and we don't need to change their histories.
adam crigler
Well, Jesus was supposedly a white man.
They've certainly changed him to white.
Do you think the actual Jesus was a white guy?
lydia smith
We know he wasn't.
adam crigler
That looks like me, long-haired.
They don't call me Soy Jesus for nothing.
That's a great point.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
History is written by the victors.
adam crigler
One of the most famous people of all time.
unidentified
Was he white?
adam crigler
No, he wasn't.
He wasn't a white guy, but he's portrayed as the whitest of whites.
tim pool
What's interesting is, especially with anime, that the characters... I was talking to somebody about this.
There was a controversy over Ghost in the Shell when they did the live-action movie and they had Scarlett Johansson, a white woman, playing Motoko Kusanagi, I think I'm getting the name right, who is supposed to be a Japanese woman.
And I was talking to people back when I worked at Fusion.
I was like, actually, the whole show is about people with prosthetic bodies.
Their brains are cyberized and downloaded into robot bodies.
And so she could literally be anything.
And one of the things I was reading about this was that I started thinking, why is it that in so many anime shows, there's blonde-haired, blue-eyed white people?
Like Naruto, for instance.
He's got blonde hair and blue eyes.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
Yes, he does.
Interesting.
And Edward Elric has hazel eyes and blonde hair.
What?
And so, there's a lot of shows like this.
And what I read was, actually, to many Japanese people, the characters being drawn aren't white.
They're being drawn like Japanese.
Some of them, they do have white characters, they do have black characters.
But it's white people who look at the art, and because the art is actually fairly ill-defined, like the facial features and the eyes, white people look at it and think, that looks like me.
Japanese people look at it and say, that looks like me.
So it's like, people assign their assumptions, their biases about what they look like to the thing they're seeing.
So anyway, I thought that was rather interesting, especially in this context, that now, apparently, people want race to be the most important, prominent thing.
adam crigler
But now, let's compare it, though.
In the Middle East, Jesus was probably Middle Eastern.
lydia smith
He was, huh?
unidentified
He was Jewish.
tim pool
He was literally Middle Eastern.
adam crigler
Thank you.
Now, go to this article here.
We got, uh, Beethoven was born in Germany.
Probably white.
To a German couple.
lydia smith
Oh, okay.
adam crigler
Well, I mean... That settles it.
Classically speaking, Germans are... I mean, I'm not saying that there isn't minority groups in Germany.
lydia smith
When was he born?
adam crigler
We could be wrong.
Like, it could have been that it was a minority group that he was born to.
tim pool
This is the photo they're claiming proves that he's black.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
This is the image, I guess.
adam crigler
Oh, this is it here?
tim pool
Apparently.
Yeah.
adam crigler
He looks like Bill Murray there.
tim pool
Bill Murray?
adam crigler
He does.
That looks like Bill Murray.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
He does kind of look like Bill Murray.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
A little bit like Bill Maher.
adam crigler
Oh, I see that too!
tim pool
He's got a Bill thing going on.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
We'll just call him Bill Tovin.
unidentified
We've changed him, but not the way they thought we would.
adam crigler
Yeah.
lydia smith
He was born in 1770.
1770.
Not a lot of interracial migration as far as I know.
tim pool
And you know people just want to believe it.
adam crigler
They do.
lydia smith
Yeah, because we're rewriting all the history now.
It's fun.
It's really fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So it's interesting because I'm not going to read what they say.
I'll read it.
They say, Oh, F no.
I'm burning S down.
Ludwig von Beethoven, the musical genius was really black.
And this whole time they tried to paint him as white.
I'm tired of black people in history being erased and whitewashed.
adam crigler
Oh, wait, hold on.
I'm sorry.
Wait a minute.
And Uncle Ben just got canceled.
Aunt Jemima just got canceled. So all these all these figures in our that in our everyday life
Yeah, I don't necessarily like Aunt Jemima syrup, but I've seen I'm like, oh I know about it
I like real maple syrup myself, but it's like I don't care what like it's it's a thing
It's a prominent thing.
But they're getting rid of it completely.
They're not even whitewashing it.
lydia smith
That person's gone.
adam crigler
It's just gone.
tim pool
Objection.
adam crigler
Go on, Tim.
tim pool
Objection.
adam crigler
Yes, please, hit me.
tim pool
Aunt Jemima's syrup is awful.
adam crigler
Okay, yeah, sure, fine.
unidentified
Alright, we'll give you that.
adam crigler
Well, it's more like corn syrup.
Right, right.
tim pool
You know what's really funny?
I was watching Mrs. Butterworth's commercials from back in the day, and I guess Mrs. Butterworth's was always corn syrup.
And the commercials they would run is they'd be like, Mrs. Butterworth's runs slower.
The leading brand runs twice as fast as Mrs. Butterworth's, and Mrs. Butterworth's pours real slow.
And I'm like, first of all, it's because it's not maple syrup.
And maple syrup is more liquid.
And who cares?
It pours slower?
lydia smith
Does it taste good?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
But yeah, so I guess the Aunt Jemima syrup is when they started doing just corn syrup with flavoring.
And you know what?
Maybe her name doesn't need to be on it.
Maybe they can, you know what?
Here you do.
Get some Vermont maple.
Pure.
The good stuff.
adam crigler
Sounds good.
tim pool
Give that to Aunt Jemima.
She deserves it.
Yeah.
Whatever, man.
But yeah, it's all part of this weird, nonsensical framework.
That's what it is.
Beethoven is a great person.
He's gotta be black.
And Jemima.
Now, honestly, the model and the woman who represented it sounds like a great woman.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
But they don't want her imagery anymore.
lydia smith
She achieved the American dream, man.
tim pool
I don't get it.
adam crigler
More than that.
She went from a slave to a millionaire.
tim pool
She was a millionaire.
adam crigler
That's so cool.
tim pool
But do you mean like a millionaire for her time or do you mean a millionaire based on inflation?
adam crigler
That's what I read.
tim pool
Because she was a millionaire back in like 1900.
adam crigler
Multiple different articles that I read about it.
It said that she became a millionaire.
She was traveling the road.
She was like selling the product.
tim pool
People loved her.
adam crigler
They did.
She was traveling the country.
Like selling her flour mix.
That's very cool.
Instant pancake stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
It's like, that's awesome.
tim pool
This is weird.
This is all weird.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't get it.
lydia smith
Upside down.
adam crigler
Yeah.
It's, I don't understand.
Like, how is it not racist to get rid of all these figures that no one had issues with, especially when they were like, like, like, uh, what do I want to say?
Like the, the first person to like rise and show, boom, look.
Someone that rose from slavery and made it.
lydia smith
Right.
adam crigler
Like, awesome.
Like, that's the kind of story we need more of.
Like, why would we try to get rid of that completely?
I don't understand.
lydia smith
I wonder if it's just because they hate America.
I'm starting to think it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Because if she achieved the American Dream, and the American Dream now is really, really bad, like, and we don't believe that anyone can achieve it, then why would you hold her up as a paradigm?
adam crigler
You know what?
That's, uh... That's interesting you should say that, because I watched the Raz article, or Raz...
you know i don't know lord of jazz of the warlord of chas it's funny that that
that's what people are calling but uh... hotel jesus did an interview with uh...
with razz today and i watch it and it was it was enlightening razz is not what they portray him as
tim pool
is that he's got all eyes matter it He did.
adam crigler
No, he said we're all one race.
And I was like, awesome, man.
He's a successful man.
He knows what he's doing.
He's smart.
tim pool
He's clearly pro 2A, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
He's working to make real change.
He doesn't want to get rid of the police.
It's, he said a lot of things that I was not expecting.
He's not the figure that they want him to be.
He's like, no, I want to make real change.
I'm really trying to like, you know, help these people.
And that's when I, you know, I see this video.
There was this one floating around where some dude beat up somebody and Raz was there and Raz didn't want to fight the guy.
tim pool
The other guy.
adam crigler
The other guy told like, it was like, I'm not going to listen to you.
I'm just going to beat him up and started beating him up.
And it's like, See I can see I see now now that I've just heard him speak, you know today It was like that was the first time I've heard from his His own voice, you know, and I was like, all right.
Wow, that's pretty respectful.
Like he's actually trying to make legitimate changes he's you know, it's man, I there's so much about it, but it's like he is not the the left's ideal person he's strong and Yeah.
tim pool
And assertive.
adam crigler
He's a successful black man.
It sounds... He's proven that, you know, you can write... He breaks the victimhood narrative.
Right.
Exactly.
lydia smith
It sounds to me like he is also living the American dream.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
I don't think they're going to like him either once they figure out what he's doing, which is really interesting to me.
adam crigler
Yep.
lydia smith
What kind of narrative is that to feed to the people who follow you?
That's not nice.
tim pool
I never liked this growing up.
I didn't like this, you know, during Occupy Wall Street when they would, you know, and this is one thing I've brought up a lot.
If I agree with them, then they use everything about my past as an excuse that's proof.
And if I disagree with them, then they disregard my entire history.
So during Occupy Wall Street, I would often have conversations with people, and if I agree with them, they would say things like, I remember one conversation I had where they were like, you see man, you are the perfect example of what's wrong with this system.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
You're smart, you're hardworking, you came down here, you're standing up for what you believe in, but because you come from a family that doesn't fit that norm, they will hold you back.
And that's why you are, you know, you didn't succeed in school, and that's why you're here with us.
And I'm like, sure.
And then a week later, I get featured in all these magazines, and what do they say?
Tim Poole is white and born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
unidentified
Oh, please!
tim pool
I'm sure he's a trust fund kid, and that proves everything.
adam crigler
Wow.
tim pool
And then there were people there who knew me, and they were like, you know he's homeless, right?
Like, he sleeps in the park.
And they were like, that's not true.
He's just like an adventurer.
You know, he's just messing around.
And they were like, no, I'm pretty sure he's broke.
Like, we had to buy him food, and he's been eating the bagels out of the bin like the rest of us.
lydia smith
Smells kind of weird.
tim pool
Yeah, and he smells kind of weird.
But their narrative was shattered.
adam crigler
Ironically, it still holds true.
tim pool
Oh yeah, definitely.
It's not like onions, mostly.
If only you knew.
It's hard.
They couldn't handle it.
When I was a high school dropout, sleeping in a park, with nothing, it was perfect for their narrative, for their social justice narrative.
Yeah, you know, this country can't accept, you know, your families and true love.
But then as soon as I was successful, You're white.
lydia smith
Dude, that's so backwards.
tim pool
Because all of a sudden I was like, the American Dream is possible.
I'm proof.
No, you're not.
unidentified
You're a liar.
lydia smith
We've been cheering for you.
adam crigler
And isn't that kind of... Terry Crews, for example, we spoke about him earlier.
It's like, what do they say to him when he says, well, no, I'm successful.
I'm doing all this.
I believe in the American Dream.
Oh, well, you're a traitor.
You're a traitor to your race.
tim pool
Oh, no, they call them worse things than that.
lydia smith
Way worse, yeah.
adam crigler
Yes, they do.
I wasn't gonna say those things.
lydia smith
Right, right, right.
That's nice of you.
tim pool
It makes me so angry, dude.
adam crigler
Scratch the surface of it, but it's like... What?
tim pool
Absolutely.
Look, man, you know, when I hear people talk about wanting to punch a racist in the face, man, I feel it.
I hear you.
But you can't live that way.
You can't just walk up to a random person and punch them.
As much as I get that feeling, I get really mad, really, really mad.
Because I'll tell you what, I'm not going to name drop anybody, but I know some people who are Filipino, some people who are black, Mexican, and some of the smartest people, hardest working people, successful people.
And like we mentioned, you know, you can go on Twitter and find some really, really great people of all different races that you will agree with, that you know are really smart.
And then when I hear people say stupid stereotypes about people based on their race, the first thing that hits me is like, bro, you're talking about my friend right now.
lydia smith
Right, you're talking about someone.
tim pool
Like, stop disrespecting people.
You have a problem with people because they act like morons.
I got no problem ragging on Antifa who are white and act like morons, all right?
You wanna talk about gangbangers?
You wanna talk about, you know, criminals, burglars, whatever?
Anybody from any race can be this thing.
And we can rag on people for their behavior all day and night.
But it's, man, it is, I have nothing but contempt and utter disdain.
I've gotten into a lot of arguments with race realists, and I feel like they can't back their arguments up because these things are really, really difficult to prove.
But what I can't stand is on one side of the coin you have the blank slate people.
Everyone is completely the same and they're all developed by a construct.
lydia smith
That's nonsense.
tim pool
But then you have the realist people who are like, everyone is a complete product of their genetics that can't be changed.
lydia smith
It's almost like it's somewhere in the middle.
adam crigler
Like a bell curve.
unidentified
Oh yeah!
lydia smith
Like there's literally a book called The Bell Curve.
adam crigler
Like most of the people are in the middle of that and don't agree with either side.
lydia smith
Yeah, there's a book about that.
That's exactly what he's talking about.
tim pool
You know what's crazy?
The motivations of humans are probably like 99.9% identical.
Yep.
Same emotion, same drive.
lydia smith
Food, make more of me.
tim pool
Food and make more of me.
lydia smith
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Exactly.
Yeah.
And so when you understand like what humans really do, then everything is derivative of that.
And it's about our survival and expansion.
And there are people who crave power and there are people who don't.
There are leaders and there are followers and there are smart people and there are stupid people.
And I think it's absurd that the blank slate people are like genetics play no role in any of these things.
It's like, no, listen, man, let's be completely real.
Genetics absolutely plays a role in your height, your hair color, your eye color, your fast twitch and slow twitch muscles.
And yes, there probably is a correlation between race and many of these features, including intelligence.
However, you get these people on the far left who refuse to even discuss the concept of probability.
And so I defer to Sam Harris, the actual brain scientist, neuroscientist.
And he had this conversation saying it's likely that it plays a role.
But I just think that nurture plays a substantial role, probably a much bigger role.
You can program humans, you can teach them, you can develop them, and they strive to succeed.
I wrote a story about a chess grandmaster.
And he apparently, like, I'm going to, you know, ruin the story because I'm probably not going to get it perfect.
He contacts another chess grandmaster, a female.
And he's like, or I think they were chess masters or scientists.
I think they were both scientists.
And he's like, I know how to create geniuses.
So let's have kids together and then raise them to be geniuses.
And then the kids all grew up to be like the top female grandmaster chess players.
And so they were asked to do the same thing with adopted kids.
And he was like, I'm too old.
I can't do it.
But while it's not perfect because it was literally the children of two geniuses.
lydia smith
That is a small sample size.
tim pool
I still think it's fair to point out that there is a nurture role in this.
And I can speak from personal experience in the choices made by people growing up in my neighborhood.
The difference between me and the kid who grew up, you know, just a few houses down or a block away from me.
It's like my mom was, was, you know, tutoring us and homeschooling us extra.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
And you know what the funny thing is, though?
When I talk to some of my more right-leaning friends, they're like, Tim, that's not fair.
Your mom's Korean.
And I'm like, oh, come on.
Like, Korean mom tutoring her kids and being very studious and everything.
And I'm like, no, but I can't argue it.
lydia smith
I mean, technically correct.
tim pool
But my mom is from St.
Louis or something like that.
lydia smith
That sounds like a cultural thing then, if it was really important to her.
tim pool
I don't think the reason that my mom was very studious and wanted to be a teacher had anything to do with race or ethnicity.
I think it had to do with more being a mom and wanting to have an active role.
And that's why there are other people in the neighborhood of different races who had similar behaviors.
And their kids are successful.
Without name-dropping anybody, I know some kids whose parents were very supportive and pushed them, particularly one individual who was black and became extremely successful.
There are people in my neighborhood that's of all different races.
So anyway, I don't want to go on a huge rant about this.
I think we get the point.
But yeah, man, I'll wrap it up by saying this.
I feel that anger when I hear racists say stupid things about people because it reflects on my friends, and I don't like it.
I don't like it at all.
adam crigler
I am 100% with you, man.
tim pool
But I'll tell you what.
adam crigler
I feel the same way.
tim pool
You're not going to win an argument by walking up to him and screaming and smacking him in the face.
You're going to invite them over for dinner with your friends of different races.
And then, like Daryl Davis did.
I love this story, man.
adam crigler
Yeah, he's awesome.
What a great story.
tim pool
He met this guy who was a white supremacist, Who, they were very apprehensive of him.
And he, and he knew that this guy was a huge rock and roll fan.
And he was like, I can't remember whose car it was.
It was a famous, you know, classic car convertible.
And he was like, Hey man.
He's like, you know, I'm a, I'm a musician.
I know the guy's got the car.
You want to see it?
And this white supremacist was like, no way you're going to bring me to the car.
And he's like, I got you.
And then all of a sudden this guy was like, what?
This is the coolest guy ever.
And then he realized they're, they're people and they came together.
And Daryl Davis is a legend, man.
This dude is incredible.
adam crigler
Yeah, if you don't know who he is, you should check it out.
lydia smith
I wish I could have met him.
adam crigler
Look him up.
tim pool
Amazingly inspirational dude.
adam crigler
Yeah, he is.
tim pool
And so we did an event in Philly, and he showed up, and I tell you what, man.
He brought with him a chest full of Klan garb.
adam crigler
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, and symbols and stuff.
lydia smith
Like his trophies.
tim pool
He was asking.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
tim pool
But kind of.
adam crigler
I've converted these people.
lydia smith
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
Over 200 people.
adam crigler
That's amazing.
tim pool
And the amazing thing is that he did it by just hanging out with them.
adam crigler
Showing them that we're all human.
tim pool
But not even really.
adam crigler
We all have emotions.
We all want to have a good time.
tim pool
You think it's like him thinking to himself, I'm going to do my best to de-radicalize these people.
It wasn't.
It was him literally being like, you want to hang out?
And then they would sit down and talk about rock and roll.
And these guys were like, this dude's rad.
And then he was saying that eventually these guys start to think about it, and they're like, hey man, these things I'm hearing don't represent my friend.
And I don't like hearing these things.
Daryl's cool.
And that was it.
adam crigler
And then it spread.
Love.
Love spread.
tim pool
That's what I'm talking about.
Even if you think the worst things about people, and you have assumptions, and you want to focus on certain issues, I just tell you, man, we have to learn to live together on this planet.
Yes, we do. There's not going to be a situation where I mean, maybe China goes
and just like, you know, purging people, but they're not going to win either.
We're we all live on Earth. We're all humans.
And I know it's I know it's silly because different cultures are, you know,
can't overlap. They can't work together.
Right. Like we are America and China, man.
But I'll tell you what, China's way of life and the Chinese Communist Party's
way of doing things cannot survive on this planet without them doing a truck
committing atrocities. That's.
But the American way of life welcomes all people.
And there's problems, but we have to make sure we maintain that American culture first and foremost.
And then under that umbrella of the American Constitution, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, everybody can thrive and be happy and learn to live together.
adam crigler
You know what, Tim?
I'm gonna spin the UFO for you right now.
unidentified
There we go.
lydia smith
Let's do it.
adam crigler
This is for you, Tim.
tim pool
Not that we just had a party.
adam crigler
No one else.
tim pool
Beautiful, heartwarming.
adam crigler
Sorry, I love you all.
But this is for you, man.
lydia smith
This is so nice.
tim pool
Spin the UFO.
This is why I love America, man.
Because think about it.
No, but I mean this.
The way the Chinese Communist Party runs things It's you.
The way a lot of these countries with their, like, I don't think many of these leftists understand how racist so many countries are.
Like, I mean literally.
It's very difficult to move there.
It's true.
Think of America, where we actively fight against it to the point where we have lunatics running through the streets thinking they're fighting, but they're making things worse.
adam crigler
They're actually becoming racist themselves.
tim pool
Right.
We fight racism so hard.
We have people fighting racism that mostly doesn't exist anymore.
lydia smith
That's great.
adam crigler
With racism.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I know, it's getting bad.
lydia smith
It's amazing.
tim pool
So that's why we have to keep resisting these people's desire to have racial pretext in law and discrimination.
So I'll put it this way, man.
These far leftists, they like to say to me, aren't you a fan of Star Trek?
Don't you want to live in that future?
That's what we're trying to build.
And I'm like, no, you're not.
adam crigler
Do they know the story, though, too?
Because society crumbled.
Is that the plan?
And then after they realized it didn't work that way, Star Trek started.
tim pool
I see what they're going for.
adam crigler
You don't know Star Trek.
tim pool
You know what I tell them is like, listen, a real future that incorporates a one world system, we call it Earth, and it's the Federation, and we travel the stars.
We all live together.
That means you can't go and throw a pie in someone's face for being white.
That means you can't start smearing and insulting white people.
It means that even if you meet someone who's white who's a racist, you've got to sit down with them, and you've got to talk to them about why we're going to hang out, have a beer, have a slice of pizza, and then that's the end of it.
You can't play this race tribalism game like they're playing.
They're bringing the problems back.
I don't like it.
adam crigler
I don't either.
lydia smith
Yeah, we're regressing.
tim pool
But you know what, man?
They're taking ground.
adam crigler
That's scary, right?
Start speaking up.
tim pool
Well, there's one thing we can do.
lydia smith
What's that?
tim pool
Go to Super Chats!
adam crigler
And you can smash the like button!
Smash, smash, smash, smash!
That wasn't too loud, was it?
No, it was good.
Before we go into Super Chats, I just want to remind everybody that tomorrow we're going to be picking a winner for this board.
There we go.
lydia smith
Sorry.
adam crigler
So we're going to be giving away, we have a few of these boards.
They are really nice.
Beautiful top layer.
I like it.
So Harumph I Say, the meme contest is live and running.
Go to my Twitter feed, Adam Krigler dot, or yeah, at Adam Krigler on Twitter.
Submit your meme using the Harumph I Say image that I provided.
And there's some really amazing ones out there.
I don't know if you've perused the meme contestants.
But we're going to all discuss it tomorrow before the show and basically there's going to be one winner based on how many likes.
So if you go and like whatever one you want, the winner with the most likes gets one of these delicious boards and then we are going to pick our personal favorites.
Yes!
And we'll show them on the show tomorrow.
So if you want to enter, you have one more day tomorrow, and we're gonna show the winners.
tim pool
And we also did announce this last week as well.
If you go to timcast.com slash donate, there is a P.O.
box.
If you send us a letter and include, and you mention the board, we are going to pick someone who sends us a letter.
lydia smith
Like a raffle type thing.
adam crigler
That's right.
I forgot about that.
That's true.
tim pool
That's a different one.
adam crigler
Yeah.
So we're going to have multiple things.
And I actually just started another contest today.
lydia smith
For next week, right?
adam crigler
For next Friday.
Next Friday, we'll pick a new winner.
And that one's going to be an art contest with art based on our show.
What we've been doing here.
Whatever you think that means.
lydia smith
Does it have to be us or can it be aliens?
adam crigler
I do not care.
lydia smith
Oh sweet.
adam crigler
But just know it has to be at least okay to show on the show.
unidentified
Yes.
adam crigler
Because we're going to show it.
We're going to show the best art.
So we'll do the same thing.
Most likes will get a board and then we'll pick a winner ourselves and it's going to be great.
lydia smith
Cool.
adam crigler
So also on my Twitter feed, you can go check it out.
And if you don't have Twitter, I guess you might have to get Twitter and follow me there.
There you go.
lydia smith
Make it happen.
adam crigler
And you can join in.
tim pool
I hate Twitter.
lydia smith
Twitter's a cesspool.
adam crigler
What should we do?
tim pool
No, it is what it is.
adam crigler
Should we move on?
tim pool
You can follow me on Twitter, Twitter and Instagram at Timcast, and you can also follow at Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S.
adam crigler
Oh yeah, I'm also on Instagram too.
Follow me up.
It's a little more, I post more of like my personal pictures and then Twitter's more of just like my outspoken mind and reading what you guys have to say, so.
tim pool
With that being said, don't forget to smash the subscribe button.
lydia smith
Yes, and share.
adam crigler
And the like button.
Smash!
tim pool
Both of them.
Let's see, some people got some superchats they want to talk about.
adam crigler
Okay, yeah, let's do it.
tim pool
GrimSoulBanisher says, watching the world burn around me.
Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for Six Flags to open up to ride some coasters.
Magic Mountain, open up please.
I feel you, man.
unidentified
You think they will?
adam crigler
You think they'll open?
unidentified
Nope.
lydia smith
I hope so.
tim pool
You know what, Fauci said football might not come back.
lydia smith
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
That's when the chaos happens.
lydia smith
That is when it hits the fan.
tim pool
Yeah, that's when it gets nuts.
People are going to be like, football!
Charles Quilter says, have y'all seen the Aunt Jar Jar Mima skit from MADtv?
I think MADtv is about to get cancelled, guys.
lydia smith
Oh, no.
tim pool
No, but I will check that out.
unidentified
That's funny.
tim pool
Cole Erdman says, the only way I'd vote Trump now is if he legalized pot.
Please spin the UFO and say, I funny is great because I funny is good.
I don't know if I feel comfortable saying that, but I just did.
adam crigler
Well, you said it, so I don't have to.
tim pool
Yeah, we had a big discussion yesterday about Trump legalizing or decriminalizing pot, picking up Schedule 1.
But mostly just pardoning federal inmates who have been convicted of nonviolent marijuana.
adam crigler
Nonviolent marijuana charges, yeah.
tim pool
I think that'd be great.
adam crigler
Me too.
tim pool
Let's see.
LongDongJohn says, everybody spin that like button and Adam will smash the UFO.
adam crigler
No, please don't!
unidentified
No!
I can't do it!
adam crigler
Don't do it!
tim pool
I'll never do it!
adam crigler
Nice try.
tim pool
We got Rick Moranis in the house.
He says, can you guys please start saying probe that like button?
I'll see myself out.
lydia smith
I don't know if we should do that.
adam crigler
There's the door.
lydia smith
Get out.
adam crigler
There's the door.
tim pool
Travis says, two weeks ago the Atlanta DA used the justification that tasers were a deadly weapon in the charging of four of six officers with aggravated assault.
See Donut Operator for the full breakdown.
Oh yeah, totally, totally hypocrisy.
unidentified
Yeah, the hypocrisy is crazy.
tim pool
Steven Faber says, every time I watch your videos, I have a strange urge to go play at Golden Nugget Casino.
Why?
Is it because they run ads?
adam crigler
It's because of the ad that shows up.
I see it because when I... Everyone's talking about a Biden ad, but I've never seen it.
I've only seen the Golden Nugget Casino one.
Well, there you go, man.
tim pool
TL says, question for Lydia.
Do you consider it cultural appropriation when someone gets white girl wasted?
lydia smith
Um, yes and no.
adam crigler
No you don't.
lydia smith
I am a white girl.
I do not get wasted.
So it's 50-50.
You do you though.
tim pool
What is that cultural appropriation?
Are they stealing your culture?
lydia smith
That is not my culture.
I'm just saying.
adam crigler
Well, it's not really accurate because anyone could get that wasted.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
And act a fool.
lydia smith
Yeah.
adam crigler
Just like.
lydia smith
We just do it really well.
tim pool
Milo says, hello from a non-far-left centrist libertarian furry.
Please enjoy some money I made while writing furry erotica.
Wow!
I will absolutely take that money.
lydia smith
Thank you!
tim pool
The Red Pill Journey says Skate 4 coming soon.
I don't believe you!
adam crigler
I don't believe it.
tim pool
I don't believe you!
EA Skate.
You know what I love?
adam crigler
It was a good game though.
tim pool
There's a meme that goes around saying, make EA Skate again.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
Yeah, dude, it's great.
It's funny because skateboarders don't care about making jokes about, you know, MAGA and stuff.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
There's actually some pro skaters, I don't know if they're pro skaters, but some skaters on Instagram who have the Gadsden flag on their mini ramp.
And I'm curious as to when someone's going to come for them.
Because they're just skateboarders.
I don't think it'll work.
adam crigler
I don't think so either.
tim pool
I kind of would like to paint the Gadsden snake somewhere.
lydia smith
That'd be fun.
tim pool
Travis Tolbert says, in the Rayshard Brooks case, the DA is quoted saying tasers are non-lethal weapons when asked if the officers should have feared for their lives in a CBS News interview.
Because that man is evil.
He's trying to get re-elected.
adam crigler
And he's corrupt, too.
I'm seeing a lot of stuff.
tim pool
Super corrupt.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's messed up.
tim pool
Adam says, Carlos is challenging Tim lately.
I like you both, learn a lot from you.
Have to admit I'm fairly pessimistic about the climate our society sees itself in now also.
Who's Carlos?
unidentified
I don't know.
No idea.
adam crigler
Maybe Carlos Osweda.
I think that's who it is.
He's a big Twitterer who does a lot of feeds.
He's tagged me in a few things.
He talks about our show sometimes, your show.
Basically just long threads about his opinions on it.
tim pool
Student of History says, I wonder if the media realizes that if Boog kicks off, they're literally on the top 10 list of groups for both sides.
Also, I got my co-worker into y'all, and he can't stand Chapo Trap House.
unidentified
Yes!
lydia smith
Thank you.
Send him all over here.
tim pool
Tell all of your friends we are the best podcast ever.
lydia smith
We're way better than Chapo.
adam crigler
And tell them how awesome I am.
tim pool
Yeah.
You can be like, it's called Timcast IRL, but Adam's way better.
adam crigler
It should be Adamcast IRL.
Come on.
tim pool
But we also are on iTunes, Spotify, Google, all that stuff.
Every morning I do it.
If you want to get up on that and watch us there.
Alright, where we at?
Phillip Ferguson says, look at the lyrics for the song, No More Mr. Nice Guy.
It reminds me of the situation that non-authoritarian individuals are finding themselves in.
Also, spin that UFO.
lydia smith
Dude, Alice Cooper is based.
I love that man.
tim pool
Sharkbait says, Tim, Tim, I have to tell you, Lydia said Nazi.
Told you I would.
unidentified
Oh gosh, he did.
lydia smith
He said he would.
I said I did not see that coming.
And he said, you said Nazi.
And here we are.
tim pool
Podcastage says, what's the theory you've mentioned where you read one story, realize it's BS, but turn the page and think, oh, what a wonderful story.
This is most likely absolutely true.
It's called Gelman Amnesia Effect.
Right.
Yeah, and it happens to everybody.
Yeah, that's really interesting, isn't it?
The Donald gets removed from Reddit for anti-cop statements, and now quite literally it's the entirety of the website.
lydia smith
They need to reinstate the Donald.
tim pool
It's ridiculous.
They're doing okay, that's fine.
Stephen A says, due to red triangles being racist, we must eliminate elevator panels.
Oh gosh, yeah.
And no more yield signs.
I hope you guys have a good night.
Yeah, seriously, man.
That's why I wonder if Trump did it on purpose.
Because he knew they would go after some innocuous symbol that's an emoji.
And maybe they're trying to get the emoji ban.
adam crigler
Maybe.
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
Just to make a point.
unidentified
Maybe.
adam crigler
He is a professional troll.
And he does a good job.
tim pool
Definitely.
Stephen A says due to red oh, I'm sorry read that one Scott Judd says at what point can we start charging these crooked
politicians and media outlets like popular mechanics with treason?
Let's do it boys. Tim fo wars. Well treason is specifically when they provide aid to an enemy. So
Popular mechanics giving advice for to commit a crime First amendment. Well, that's why they changed it from Chaz
adam crigler
to chop because it's an occupied spot instead of organized protest
Yeah, they don't want us to be autonomous anymore. Yes was way cooler. You dorks
lydia smith
I don't want to be autonomous, mom.
tim pool
Yeah.
Kaj Jack says, for far too long our tree of liberty has withered.
Now it will be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots alike.
Weak men have made hard times, but hard times forge strong men.
Hope you're ready.
It's coming, baby.
Look at the, they're going to put a cop on death row in Atlanta?
adam crigler
I don't think so.
tim pool
No, I'm just like, they're threatening him with a charge that could bring about the death penalty.
He's going to get off.
He's not going to get, it's not going to work.
adam crigler
Yeah, it's not.
tim pool
But the riots will happen.
They're right, because these people don't know what they're talking about.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Nathan says, Adam, can you imagine a Magic the Gathering set with a Dragonlance crossover?
I would love to see a black-red Raistlin planeswalker.
I would highly recommend the Legends trilogy and the Raistlin Chronicles from Dragonlance.
adam crigler
Well, no, they would start him as like a red planeswalker, and then they would release a different planeswalker later on, and he would be a black mage instead.
Oh.
Because he starts in the middle, and then slowly kind of gets a little kooky as he goes along.
But honestly, I don't want it.
Because we're seeing what Wizards of the Coast is doing to magic.
They're ruining it.
I don't want SJWs to get a hold of Dragonlance.
Dragonlance is awesome.
I love that series so much.
And man, I think they would ruin it.
tim pool
They're going to have to ban so many magic cards.
adam crigler
Yeah, they are.
tim pool
Do you want to grab the card?
Because I have the reparations card.
Can you grab it?
I would grab it, but you're closer.
lydia smith
We have all the cards.
tim pool
So I bought one card.
You're going to love this.
Watch this.
You're going to love this one.
lydia smith
He goes, I got reparations, and I'm like, whoa, really?
adam crigler
Because you can't see it, though.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
lydia smith
Tim got reparations.
adam crigler
Because there's stickers on the front of it.
lydia smith
Very weird.
Oh, oh, oh.
There we go.
tim pool
Can you see it?
lydia smith
Oh, no.
adam crigler
That's as close as I can get.
Give it to me.
Give it to me.
Go to Lydia cam.
lydia smith
Oh, oh, oh, Lydia cam.
There we go.
Oh, oh, that's way better.
tim pool
He's trying.
He's trying.
It's not it's not focusing.
unidentified
No.
adam crigler
Hello, guys.
Give me a shot.
tim pool
Just try it.
Just try it again.
So this card is called reparations.
The image is literally a white man with a pot of gold.
And there's two black people he's handing the money to.
And the card function is it's like it's like a math card.
I wouldn't say it's completely worthless, but it's not that great.
It just basically says whenever your opponent targets you or one of your creatures, you can draw a card.
But the image is literally a blonde white man with his head down bowing to a bunch of money, and there's two black people that he's giving it to.
This, in my opinion, is overtly racial.
I wouldn't call it racist, but I know the left would.
lydia smith
It's racialized.
unidentified
Wow.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
adam crigler
Sorry I burned down your village.
Here's some gold.
unidentified
Wow, is that what it says?
lydia smith
That's what it says on the card.
adam crigler
That's the flavor text at the bottom.
lydia smith
Oh my gosh, seriously?
Spicy.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then I actually got like 80 of the Praetish Gypsies.
adam crigler
Yeah, you did.
tim pool
Because they're like a 10 cent card, but you can't get them anymore.
lydia smith
You sure did.
tim pool
And these Crusades, man.
Yeah, you got an Alpha.
The original Alpha Crusade.
Beautiful.
And it's got a Templar Knight, so gotta go.
Gotta go.
That whole game is gonna get new All right, where are we at?
HH Madsen says, Hey folks, if you folks write Skål in the chat, I will donate free beer the whole summer.
What is that?
I don't know what that is.
adam crigler
Skål!
tim pool
What is it?
adam crigler
Cheers.
lydia smith
Oh, there you go.
adam crigler
What language is that?
lydia smith
Swedish.
tim pool
Keith Wagner says, Joe Rogan podcast Tuesday with Jocko Willink.
It's Willink, right?
Discussed a Dwayne Johnson ticket with Willink VP listed as independents.
Have you seen it?
Thoughts if so.
adam crigler
Wow.
lydia smith
That's amazing.
tim pool
I don't know enough about Dwayne.
I like Jocko.
I don't know enough about Dwayne Johnson, though.
lydia smith
He's been talking about it for a while.
adam crigler
He's been saying some, like, Democratic stuff, though.
unidentified
He is leaning way into the Democratic.
lydia smith
Way into it?
Interesting.
adam crigler
I mean, from some of the stuff that I saw, I was like, oh, my.
lydia smith
Yeah.
Jocko is not political at all, though.
unidentified
I don't know.
lydia smith
Might be just what we need.
tim pool
Death Is Eternal says, the left likes to say health care is a human right, and taxpayer dollars should pay for health care.
Can we use that same logic?
I have the right to own firearms, so taxes should pay for our guns.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
But it's not even a joke.
You actually can.
People have been mentioning that weapons should be subsidized by the government because it's a constitutional right.
That's why I said yes. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's called universal firearms protection or universal firearms
adam crigler
Yeah, that is the craziest face Lydia really wants us to be insane
tim pool
when you turn 18 you can go to the G the G I'm sorry the DG the D. Come on spit it out Tim
I'm trying to create an acronym for this.
The Department of Gun Acquisition.
The DGA.
Where you show up and they have a whole bunch of guns in stock and ammo and you have to take a test like you do for the DMV.
And you fill out signs, you know, you gotta fill out, what does this sign mean?
What does this one mean?
And you know, at what range does this work?
And like, how do you, you know, unload this thing?
Safety.
And then after you pass the written test, you have to do the, the, um, you know, the physical portion of it, where you walk up to the range and they make you fire and then they hand you your gun and they say, there you go.
adam crigler
You're now an American citizen.
tim pool
But this is not to say that you need a license to buy the weapon.
It's just that if you want to acquire it from the government, they make you go through...
I mean that actually seriously.
That would be pretty interesting because then you'd have a ton of people who go through
a training.
Yeah.
Now I'm not saying you have to go through the training in order to buy a weapon at all.
You know, you can do the normal purchase like whatever, but you'd also have a gun acquisition
department where you can walk in and then once you pass the written exam, they hand
you a gun.
Free of charge.
lydia smith
Weapons administration program.
tim pool
I'm half joking about it, but yeah, I think it's interesting that it's 2A.
I don't know.
lydia smith
We need to educate people.
tim pool
Get more people trained and stuff.
adam crigler
Yeah, I like it.
tim pool
All right, Hedge says, thanks for actually having a conversation worth listening to.
Can't tell you how appreciated you are.
I appreciate you appreciating me, huh?
unidentified
Thank you.
adam crigler
And I do also.
lydia smith
All that too.
tim pool
QuietGuitaristFan says, can't watch tonight at work and a patient is watching CNN.
lydia smith
Oh, sorry.
tim pool
It's all fear-mongering garbage.
I can't help but smile and laugh like the Joker.
Anyway, here are monies for you.
Can I ask Lydia reasoning for her pro-life stance?
lydia smith
Oh.
Okay.
Well, like I was talking about earlier, the person behind Planned Parenthood is a literal eugenicist who gave the Nazis ideas.
So as far as I'm concerned, that's not really a great argument for the entire premise of Planned Parenthood.
adam crigler
And then my other argument- Well, Planned Parenthood is way more than just being about pro-life.
I'm just saying, they do so much more than just that.
unidentified
Right.
lydia smith
But it was founded by- A eugenicist who gave the Nazis ideas.
So I really don't like that premise.
So I'm starting with that.
I don't like the idea of eugenics.
I don't like the idea that over half of the black babies in New York City were aborted in 2018.
I don't know if anybody knows that.
But as far as I'm concerned, black people should be up in arms about that.
That is a serious problem.
And we need to address why that happens.
And we need to look at black fathers.
And we need to look at the entire culture in large cities.
And that's part of my stance.
tim pool
I think it's because Democrats are racists.
lydia smith
Yeah, I think you might be right.
adam crigler
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
And I'm not saying that to praise Republicans.
I think the Republicans literally are just sitting on their hands, so... Yeah, man, I'm from Chicago, and I was talking to someone I know from Chicago, and they were defending the Democrats, and I'm like, what is wrong with you, dude?
Have you ever stopped to think about all the messed up stuff that we went through?
Like, we once had the mayor come to our neighborhood and promise us all this great stuff, we raised all this money, and then they just left, got the photo op, and then just left us high and dry.
Like, I'm not gonna get into the details of it, but I actually had a park call the cops on me after I was skating at a park I helped build.
Like, I campaigned, and the mayor came down, and then as soon as he was gone, they were like, get out of here.
And that was Chicago, and that was the Democrats.
So the Republicans didn't mean anything to me.
I don't know what they're doing.
It was the Democrats running Chicago who were giving me the business.
All right, let's see.
The Grizzly says, please read the official Dungeons & Dragons Wizard of the Coast post.
They're getting rid of orcs in Dungeons & Dragons because of what they represent.
They're also getting rid of all stats and abilities.
unidentified
Wow.
What?
tim pool
Is that true?
Did we miss that?
lydia smith
Oh, man.
tim pool
I don't believe that.
They didn't say they were getting rid of orcs, did they?
adam crigler
No, they were saying orcs are just as culturally diverse as humans.
Okay.
And Dark Elves.
The Dro is Dark Elves.
Okay, listen.
tim pool
Student of history says George Washington Carver, the man who invented peanut butter, not true.
adam crigler
Oh no?
tim pool
Not true at all.
unidentified
Lies.
tim pool
Lies.
No, he did invent a ton of things around the peanuts, my understanding.
lydia smith
Yeah, he helped with their development.
adam crigler
I do believe he helped popularize- You're still the student of history.
Still learning.
lydia smith
Yep, yep.
tim pool
I read that it was a French guy.
French guy, a long time before.
Invented peanut butter.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's just what I heard, maybe.
Alright, let's jump down.
Let's see what we got.
Mr. Wombat says, these dopes calling for dismantling of police should be careful.
If they think fire and emergency medical services are responding to a scene not secured by law enforcement, they just might be in for a rude awakening.
I can attest to this because my family, my dad was a firefighter, and I heard the stories from these guys.
They pull up on an ambulance assist, and there's a guy bleeding out, and there's gangbangers in Chicago, and they got guns, and the EMTs and the firefighters are just sitting in their cars like, nope.
lydia smith
I'm not getting out, sorry.
tim pool
And the people are like, you gotta help him.
They're like, nope.
Not as long as you're here.
adam crigler
Yeah, an EMT worker hit me up earlier today and said, you know, we don't go onto a scene until the cops have secured it.
We will not do that.
So all these people that are going to get shot, if there's no cops, there's no EMT workers want to help.
lydia smith
So that's a classic case of securing your own oxygen mask before you try to help someone else.
Because if you can't protect your EMTs, how are you going to go rescue people who collapse on the sidewalk?
tim pool
People don't get the importance of policemen.
adam crigler
Or the civilization that we've built.
Seriously.
Society as a whole sure has some issues that we need to correct.
Absolutely agree.
But as a whole, we are in a great situation that everyone's taking it for granted.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
That's not right.
Not everybody.
Not everyone takes it for granted.
I don't.
I can speak for myself.
I appreciate what I have.
lydia smith
For sure.
tim pool
Whoa, check this out.
1991 Shadowheart says, Hey Tim, for what it's worth, the liberalist's FB page got zucked overnight.
Liberalists down under are in chaos and other pages are prepping backups.
It feels like a bigger thing as like-minded pages are getting zucked as well.
Stay safe.
Man, that's crazy.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Man, they're just, if you, they want to eliminate the left that is sane and rational.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
They don't like you.
They want you gone.
Larry Goddard says, if Garrett Rolfe gets convicted of felony murder, I feel that there will be a mass resignation from every police officer across the country.
What cop is going to want to respond to any call involving a young black man?
Well, I was thinking about that.
Where we live, We got good cops.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
We live in a small town in the suburbs.
adam crigler
Yeah.
tim pool
And our department, we have nothing but respect.
I've only ever been taken care of.
adam crigler
Some of them live in our neighborhood.
tim pool
Yeah.
So I had one issue where I was like, I wanted to skate super early in the morning.
I just call them up.
I'm like, howdy.
And then I'm like, hey, how's it going?
I'm just wondering.
And we just talked.
And it was just that simple.
No issues.
No wait times.
No lines.
No queries.
It's literally a cop answers the phone.
How's it going?
How's it going?
And I've asked some pretty funny questions like, Just out of the blue, like, how big could a building be in our town?
And then the cop, I literally asked him this.
And he's like, uh, I don't think we have a regulation for that.
And I was like, so I could build a skyscraper?
And he goes, I think you can?
And I started laughing, and I was like, I'm not really gonna do it.
And then he laughed, and he was like, yeah, there's no restriction, man.
I mean, no one's ever asked me that before.
adam crigler
Well, Tim, that sounds an awful lot like white privilege.
unidentified
I don't know.
adam crigler
And you are white in this situation, specifically.
tim pool
Yeah, whenever I'm having a good interaction with police, I'm white.
And any bad interaction is because I'm mixed race.
I swear, that's what they would say.
But that's the thing, why would our cops walk off the job?
Because of Atlanta.
We like them.
We can literally walk in and say, hey guys, and they're like, hey, how's it going?
It's that easy.
And so when you're in New York, I've dealt with NYPD, not fun.
adam crigler
No, I agree.
tim pool
Yeah, really bad.
Big city cops are very, very different.
adam crigler
Democrat city cops.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, man.
adam crigler
It's Democrat cities.
So that's what they voted for.
Man.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, let's read some more Super Chats.
Nava Down Under says Atlanta DA, according to the AJC, is under criminal investigation by the GBI for allegedly taking at least $140,000 in Atlanta taxpayer dollars to supplement his salary through his non-profit.
Get rid of the guy.
Purge him.
Get him out.
He's going to burn your city down.
lydia smith
This is insane.
tim pool
Let's see.
GS059 says, they don't like civil liberty symbols because they don't want civil liberty.
Definitely.
Snafu says, dungeons and dragons and dumb.
With some red triangles.
Is the red triangle emoji going to be a thing now?
I think it is.
adam crigler
Absolutely it is.
Now that you just said it, it's going to start spamming.
tim pool
Well, no, no, they're already posted.
lydia smith
Did you see the chat before?
adam crigler
Oh, no, I know.
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
Yeah, there we go.
unidentified
Yep.
lydia smith
That's the thing.
tim pool
Thumbs up, okay signs, and red triangles.
It's an emoji.
Why do they have emojis that are Nazi symbols?
Because they're not.
adam crigler
Because they're not.
lydia smith
They have a no girls symbol still.
tim pool
That's right.
Did you know this?
adam crigler
What?
tim pool
Facebook has a circle with a line through it and in the circle is a woman.
adam crigler
It's a girl.
tim pool
That's it.
lydia smith
That's wonderful.
tim pool
So I jokingly changed the emojis with several of my friends who are female to the no girls allowed.
adam crigler
Okay.
tim pool
Just so that instead of doing a thumbs up, I just hit the no girls allowed.
Why do they have this emoji?
unidentified
Why?
lydia smith
I think it's awesome.
tim pool
No girls allowed.
adam crigler
I don't know.
lydia smith
I forget what it means, but I think it's awesome.
tim pool
Look at the red triangles.
adam crigler
I told you.
tim pool
Look at that.
Oh, geez, man.
adam crigler
Our chat is the best.
lydia smith
I know, right?
tim pool
We have fun here on Tin Cast IRL, I guess.
adam crigler
Well, I know I do.
lydia smith
We do, yes.
tim pool
Let's see, Zoivad says, the left hates America because some were held back from being able
to take advantage of all that America offers.
But as we progress, we are removing those barriers.
Hopefully America survives long enough for these people to realize it's for them too.
adam crigler
Yes.
I've certainly realized it.
tim pool
The Grizzly says, Hey guys, I've got a game that's a replacement for both Warhammer and D&D.
It's called Kings of War and Vanguard.
It's a game that uses fantasy models and scale from D&D RPG to full-scale Warhammer RTS war battles.
It was created by ex-Warhammer employees.
adam crigler
That's cool.
I've heard of Vanguard.
Is that the same?
I'm not sure if it is or not, but that's cool.
tim pool
Caleb Field says Steven Crowder is dropping a new Change My Mind next week.
America is not racist to Change My Mind.
Also, he choked out his audio guy on his show tonight when demonstrating a proper choke hold.
lydia smith
I figured he would.
Did he pass out?
That's what I want to know.
tim pool
I believe he did.
lydia smith
I don't know.
unidentified
Did he?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
So what I heard was that he did, and then immediately came to, and they were like, all right, you're okay, man?
And he goes, yeah, I'm fine.
What do you mean?
Like, he just immediately just came right back.
unidentified
Good, good, good.
lydia smith
Oh, thank goodness.
tim pool
A proper choke hold.
That sounds like a Crowder episode.
lydia smith
Yeah, it sure does.
Waterboarding.
adam crigler
Did he do that?
lydia smith
Yeah, he did that.
He said it's fine.
unidentified
He did it to himself.
adam crigler
Crowder's crazy.
Oh, what a boss, though.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
VillainMusicDude says, Guys, check your Instagram accounts.
I sent a warning video from 1969.
A warning from Edward G. Griffin showing how communist countries use race destabilization to occupy police and National Guard with civil violence so that planned violence can occur.
Yikes, man.
adam crigler
This does seem awfully planned, doesn't it?
lydia smith
Wow, dude.
tim pool
Here, check it out.
Vincent Keegan says, Joe Rogan had an interview with Hotep Jesus a year ago.
Check it out on his podcast.
Watched it the other day and didn't realize he was Raz.
He is a great man.
Wait, that he was Raz?
lydia smith
No, he's not Raz.
adam crigler
No, Hotep isn't Raz.
Hotep had an interview with Raz today, earlier on his podcast.
They were chatting.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
So, it was a good conversation.
tim pool
VillaMusicDude also says, I feel that unfortunately it's too late to turn back.
The culture war is lost, and what we can only do now is slow down the inevitable.
To change it at this point requires resurfacing of patriotic values institutionally, but it will take many years.
Dare I say I agree.
We have an entire generation of people who have an insane worldview that can't be mended.
They say the same thing about Trump supporters, but that's not true.
And there's no way to solve that.
So I say this as somebody who never is not a Trump flag-waving, MAGA hat-wearing individual.
It's funny because during Occupy Wall Street, I had conservatives, you know, mocking me in my chats and stuff like that.
And then I would defend free speech and they'd be like, oh, well, okay then.
That was it.
I'm like, I don't care.
You can tell me all you want.
And they were like, oh.
adam crigler
We like that about you.
tim pool
Once the left started going insane, the left turned on me.
And I actually talked to an Antifa guy who I've known for a really long time.
And he said, what I didn't realize is that they were exploiting me and people like me who are stupid enough to allow them to gain power.
I'm not kidding.
I literally told me this.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Saying that, you know, when we talked about nonviolent civil disobedience and all those things, they just used us because we promoted them enough to get them to a point where they could have actual cultural relevance.
And they've always believed in using violence.
That sucks.
And now we're in their way.
So we're out.
I swear it is.
And this guy's like, you know, relatively prominent.
But, oh man.
I think you've got a whole generation now of people.
So the example I use as often is a friend of mine who used to be a really nice person who would sit down and talk with you, posting insane things that aren't true.
And there is nothing you can do to show them a video.
It's like, I have a video showing a man turn and point a weapon at an officer.
And you can argue he still shouldn't have died, and that's a fair conversation.
Many people disagree.
Conservatives show the video of the tasers on the highway.
But they won't even watch the video.
They'll say straight up, I refuse.
You're a liar.
Propaganda.
I was in San Bernardino.
There was a protest between, it was like an Antifa versus Trump supporter thing.
And when I walked over with my camera to the far left side, and I started asking people if they wanted an interview, one of the organizers started chanting, mic check, And then started chanting, do not talk to them.
Do not talk to them.
And then whenever I would try and talk to them, they would look past me and just start mindlessly chanting.
And I'm like, that's cult.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
It's a cult defense technique to make sure no one can hear any conflicting ideas or be woken up from the cult they're in.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
Which is why I find it's really funny they're called woke because they're actually being put to sleep.
adam crigler
That's funny.
Yeah, you're right.
tim pool
They're being lulled into a false, you know, world.
And the red pill is when you wake up from the lies of the media and have to decide for yourself.
adam crigler
Oh, trust me, Tim.
I know.
tim pool
No, this is funny because we had this conversation because you've mentioned that, like, I've opened your eyes or I've red-pilled you.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
I did it to myself.
I do my research.
I read a lot.
I watch.
tim pool
I just meant, like, you coming here and then starting to do your research.
adam crigler
Well, I mean, you gave me this job.
You called me up one day and you were like, you want to do this podcast with me?
And I was like, yes, of course I do.
That sounds like a lot of fun.
tim pool
But I bring this up because earlier today, when the Dungeons and Dragons thing happened and the magic, I was like, you realize that whether I called you or not, you would be in all of this already.
adam crigler
That's true.
tim pool
So what's crazy about that is how it's activating regular people who normally weren't involved in politics.
Because if you'd be hanging out with your buddies playing Magic and all of a sudden all these cards ban for being racist, you'd be like, what?
What is happening?
And then Dungeons and Dragons comes out and says, orcs gotta go.
You'd be like, whoa.
adam crigler
Whoa, whoa, they're not getting rid of orcs.
They're making them peaceful people that you can relate to because everyone has feelings.
lydia smith
They're supposed to be the monsters.
adam crigler
Everyone gets participation trophies.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Everybody gets a trophy.
adam crigler
But not the people who are going into our meme contest!
This is the only trophy.
This is the trophy we're giving away tomorrow.
We're going to give away a couple of these boards.
We're going to pick a winner for your participation.
No.
No, Tim.
Bad Tim.
No.
lydia smith
It is not a participation trophy.
adam crigler
And if you don't know, if you weren't here earlier when I was announcing this, this is the board that I'm going to be giving away.
Well, we're all giving it away.
tim pool
We're going to sign them.
adam crigler
Go to my Twitter right here.
Where am I at?
There we go.
Yeah, there you go.
And you can hit me up and make a meme with the Harumph I Say graphic that I've got posted on the tweet and you can find it.
We're gonna sign it and tomorrow we'll show you who won and we're gonna pick a winner and you can pick your own winner by liking whichever one you like the most on that post.
tim pool
And I'll give you some advice, at least as it pertains to the meme I may pick.
The harumph I say thing that I do is a reference to the snooty elitists who are shocked when... You know what?
Here's the best example.
Did you ever see that family guy skit about past the all fruit?
You know what I'm talking about?
So Family Guy did this joke, there's an 80s commercial I guess, where it's a bunch of rich people, and they're like, can you pass the Palmers all the fruit?
And then they pass this jar, and then it finally comes to some like redneck guy and he goes, can you pass the jelly?
And then they all faint and like, oh, and like the butler's fanning the woman.
lydia smith
Plucking their pearls.
tim pool
So Family Guy did a joke about that, and then they were like, they stop after the joke, and then Peter says, we realize that our viewers under 40 have no idea what the reference to this joke was, so let me explain it to you.
And then they do a commentary on the joke, That's the harumph I say.
Donald Trump is the guy saying, pass the jelly.
And all of the snooty ivory tower people are going, oh, all fruit, all fruit to the jelly.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Clutching their pearls.
adam crigler
Yep.
tim pool
So that's, so what I would be looking for in a good meme is the harumph I say alongside some kind of elitist shock.
You know, whatever that might be, like them being hypocritical and like shocked that the peasants are rising up or resisting or rejecting the media or something like that.
adam crigler
So should we, should we all pick our own favorites?
tim pool
That's what we're going to do, right?
adam crigler
Yeah.
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam crigler
All right.
Well, no, I mean, we kind of never really talked about it.
It's kind of like lazily.
tim pool
So it's the most liked one, the most liked one.
And then we each choose our favorite.
adam crigler
All right.
That sounds awesome.
unidentified
All right.
adam crigler
So if you want to cater to Tim, I mean, now you only have one day left, so make it happen.
But yeah, we're going to scroll through and pick our favorites tomorrow.
It's going to be fun.
lydia smith
I'm excited.
tim pool
And then don't forget, you can also go to timcast.com slash donate.
There's a P.O.
box.
And if you want to send stuff, you can.
But if you also include in whatever you send a message about the board, we're going to randomly pick one of the letters we get.
unidentified
Just say, I want the board.
tim pool
This one's probably got to be next week.
adam crigler
No, no, no.
Next week we're going to do the art contest.
tim pool
I'm saying we'll pick the winner next week for this one with the letter, simply because we need people to have time to actually mail something.
adam crigler
Well, that's why I was going to say maybe not next week, because that'll be the art contest.
By the way, I just started a new contest today, basically making some art about our show.
Yeah, about our show.
And you can submit it, boom, again on my Twitter account.
And just whatever you feel shows us as Timcast IRL, what we do here, making art about it.
We're going to show it on next Friday's show.
And that'll be that. So then the mail-in thing, I mean, I feel like we should have that running
for like a month maybe, you know, to give people time. We could talk about it often.
You know, send us something. If you're sending us anything, you know, just put it in there.
I would love a piece of that sweet harumph board action.
lydia smith
Yes.
adam crigler
So get your get your submissions in for the meme contest before tomorrow at 7pm Eastern Time.
I'm going to cut it then because we're going to discuss who should be winning.
And then we'll do the art contest next Friday.
And also tomorrow is our jam night.
And you're not recording this weekend.
And it's been a while since you played.
tim pool
I believe three weeks.
lydia smith
Yeah, it's been a while.
adam crigler
Oh, you're playing a song.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
adam crigler
People want to hear you play a song.
lydia smith
That's right.
adam crigler
I know I do anyway.
Maybe I'll back up sing on one of your songs.
tim pool
Oh, that'd be fun.
Yeah, maybe we'll jam it up.
lydia smith
That'd be so cool.
tim pool
Tomorrow night, we always wrap up with a good little show.
So for now, there's one very important thing you must do.
adam crigler
Smash the like button!
unidentified
Smash smash smash!
tim pool
And there are a couple other buttons you can smash.
adam crigler
Smash.
tim pool
If you can keep your wits about you for just a moment, you may smash that subscribe button.
adam crigler
Smash.
tim pool
And that notification bell.
lydia smith
Smash it.
tim pool
And share.
Well, it's 10, so that usually means we're getting ready for Betty Bye.
unidentified
We have a hot, fresh loaf of bread prepared.
tim pool
So I don't know if you guys know this, I don't know if we've ever mentioned it, but we have an automatic bread machine.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
All you do is throw everything in and then press start.
lydia smith
All you do.
I'm a master at my skill.
tim pool
Then by the time the show is done, there is a hot, fresh loaf of bread.
adam crigler
Talk about privilege, huh?
unidentified
Privilege!
tim pool
We take some flour and some sugar and some yeast and some herbs and then boom.
lydia smith
White bread privilege.
tim pool
So we're going to go slice into that delicious white bread.
But thanks for hanging out.
Seriously, if you want to subscribe to the show, we do the show live every Monday, Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
and we put clips up the next day.
So stick around because we will be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.
live.
And we'll see you all then.
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