Feb. 19, 2025 - The Tucker Carlson Show
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Our friends don't want to say that, but that's the reality of Ukraine today. | |
| What's the other word for it? | ||
| I can't think of one. | ||
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I can't either. | |
| But you never see that in any newspaper in the West. | ||
| So that really bothers me. | ||
| Look, there are tons of dictatorships around the world, but the West is supposed to be this beacon of freedom and enlightenment, respecter of human rights, etc., etc. | ||
| What does it tell you as an American, as a product of the West? | ||
| That all of our big institutions seem to like the Zelensky dictatorship. | ||
| They like it. | ||
| I've confronted a bunch of people. | ||
| You think it's okay to ban a church? | ||
| Well, that church is pro-Russia. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, you say it's not pro-Russia. | ||
| I don't care if it is. | ||
| You can't ban other people's religions. | ||
| Period. | ||
| I don't care how much you dislike them. | ||
| I don't care if it's Scientology or Kabbalah. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Hinduism doesn't matter. | ||
| You can't ban other people's religions. | ||
| And yet, I don't know anyone who's bothered by it. | ||
| In high position in the West. | ||
| So what does that tell you about the people in high positions in the West? | ||
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Well, it means that we have become disconnected from, in reality, who we are and who we're supposed to be. | |
| That's a diplomatic way of putting it. | ||
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Yeah, and it does not bode well for our future as a country. | |
| That's exactly it. | ||
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And that's what's frightening to me. | |
| You feel that? | ||
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Yes, I feel that. | |
| I feel it's shocking to me. | ||
| How alienated I am representing this church because I'm not accepting the narrative that's been accepted by others. | ||
| And so my firm, myself, we are paying a terrible price. | ||
| Not nearly as bad as our client who faces physical violence and the destruction of their religion, but... | ||
| There is no quarter being given to disputing what's going on. | ||
| This guy has seemed to have a complete lock on our institutions, on Washington. | ||
| Now, we just spoke at the conference. | ||
| We weren't able to speak a year ago. | ||
| Maybe that's a good sign. | ||
| We're going to try to go back on the Hill. | ||
| I was there a few weeks ago. | ||
| No member would meet us. | ||
| But that could have just been the transition. | ||
| We're going to go back and try again. | ||
| But it really is the Zelensky effect is something that needs to be studied because it's incredibly unhealthy for us. | ||
| Number one is a democracy. | ||
| Number two, in terms of our geopolitical reckoning. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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Who we are in the world. | |
| It has to be reassessed. | ||
| And I, listen, I'm actually a Canadian and British lawyer, although I have a master's in American law, I don't practice here. | ||
| And of course, now that I'm a Canadian, we could be at war, even though I'm an American as well. | ||
| Well, you'll just be a state, apparently. | ||
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Exactly, that'll be okay. | |
| But I will say that what this presidency is doing is, with God's help, opening up. | ||
| Opening up our eyes to what's been going on. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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And I have to say that as a lawyer, I am deeply in awe. | |
| Firstly, you have to hand it to President Trump. | ||
| Stamina like I've never seen in 10 human beings. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
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Secondly, you have to accept that the Justice Department was weaponized. | |
| Whoever you are. | ||
| As a lawyer in this country, there is no doubt that the weaponization that took place under the Democrats was severe. | ||
| I have a lot of issues with what happened regarding January 6th. | ||
| I'm going to have a lot of issues with what's going on at the Justice Department and the FBI. But I will say, do not say it is this president. | ||
| Who has politicized the DOJ? This is a systemic problem that has been horrifically exploded during the last Democratic presidency. | ||
| So, last question. | ||
| I'm not going to ask you a year you graduated law school, but... | ||
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Thank you. | |
| But it was a while ago. | ||
| You said you've been practicing for over 40 years. | ||
| When you graduated law school, I bet there were a ton of people with your attitudes in your class. | ||
| Similar attitudes about human rights, rule of law, politics, America's place in the world. | ||
| Now you're literally the only one left that I've met from your generation. | ||
| What's it been like for you with your friends, your peers, people you know have known your whole life. | ||
| You come back and all of a sudden you're being denounced as a Russian stooge. | ||
| What effect has that had? | ||
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Well, it's interesting. | |
| I said 20 years ago that there was a terrible danger in the United States to the corporatism of criminal law. | ||
| We have turned criminal law into the activity of big corporate law firms. | ||
| In New York, even today, there are a bunch of... | ||
| Small firms that take on difficult cases, Brafman, Agnifolo, some of these guys in small firms taking on tough, tough, tough cases that I think of as real defenders. | ||
| But the corporate titans that are doing the big cases have become entirely focused on Compliance. | ||
| You're somebody, I'm sure, with far more resources than a poor guy like myself. | ||
| But if you engage in transnational business, you know the hassles of even moving $10 across borders. | ||
| These corporate law firms are making tens of millions off of managing compliance because of, and this is a separate story, in my view this Over-regulation, money laundering allegations. | ||
| Money laundering is the most dangerous crime governments have ever invented because it basically criminalizes activity that very many people never knew was criminal. | ||
| And you could be charged with money laundering if you've engaged in asset or money transfers when you had no idea at the time that it was criminal. | ||
| They don't care about rape on a subway platform. | ||
| And if they did, we wouldn't have it. | ||
| A lot of countries don't have rape on subway platforms because that's horrifying. | ||
| It's a violation, the most basic violation of someone's civil rights. | ||
| What they care about is money laundering. | ||
| I noticed. | ||
| I just read today DOJ was issuing some statement on money laundering. | ||
| Every day it's money laundering. | ||
| It's because people using their money that they earned in ways that they choose to use it, that's a massive threat to the people in power. | ||
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Yes, it is. | |
| And again, another day, I'll tell you about my use of human rights law to stop the freezing of assets and freezing of monies. | ||
| This compliance psychology is a tremendous danger that we foster in our big firms. | ||
| And that is, you know, so if you ask me after 45 years, how do you feel? | ||
| It is a sense of... | ||
| Tragedy that our basic rights have been withered away in so many events of emergency. | ||
| Whenever I hear emergency or crisis, whether it's COVID, the war on terror, the war on crime, these are all events that chip away at our freedoms, and they're cumulative. | ||
| They go on and on and they further narrow the scope for our activity. | ||
| And we need a dramatic rethink of all of that in order for us to be free. | ||
| So when you were a kid, when you were a young lawyer, when you were in law school, Brandenburg versus Ohio, the big speech cases, those were all very well known, right, to everybody in your class. | ||
| Do you think someone graduating Yale Law now has any real sense of that? | ||
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You know... | |
| I'm giving a speech Friday to 60 top law students. | ||
| I'll know better after that. | ||
| I think that, unfortunately, we're raising lawyers to fit into these corporate firms. | ||
| This whole sort of compliance culture. | ||
| And, you know, I'm probably, God help me, probably one of the only lawyers that will applaud the Trump administration for stopping FCPA enforcement. | ||
| It's not that I'm in support of corruption, and it's not that I think we shouldn't come up with a system to stop it. | ||
| It's that the FCPA has represented a massive... | ||
| Commercial barrier for American business to enter Latin America and Africa. | ||
| We need to be in those places. | ||
| And now maybe we'll have a shot because the compliance barrier simply made it only possible for some of our largest businesses. | ||
| Well, that's the whole point. | ||
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Yes. | |
| That was the whole point of Dodd-Frank. | ||
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Yes. | |
| It's like, you know, all the small guys die when the big guys can pay enough lawyers to stay within the law or the regs. | ||
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Yeah, that's right. | |
| Bobby Amsterdam, I'm grateful for what you're doing and I'm grateful that you exist. | ||
| And when liberals like you went extinct, everyone made fun of people like you because they're annoying. | ||
| They're always jumping up and yelling about rights. | ||
| But I was one of the only people who felt sad when your whole way of thinking died because I felt like we really needed that. | ||
| And it turns out I was right. | ||
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Well, thank you again. | |
| Thank you. | ||
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