Tucker Carlson - Ladies and gentlemen, Patrick Bet-David. (0:28) Who is Going to Win The Election and Why? (25:25) Reaction to the DOJ using “Deadly Force” Language in Mar-a-Lago Raid (30:28) Biden's State of the Union Speech (58:48) Analysis on our Media Landscape (1:08:25) Is Foreign Policy
Patrick Bet-David and Tucker Carlson dissect the 2024 election, with Bet-David predicting Trump’s victory if polling holds but warning of pre-November manipulation, while questioning Biden’s cognitive decline and media bias. They critique DOJ’s "deadly force" language in the Mar-a-Lago raid, link media chaos to profit motives, and debate foreign policy—Bet-David accusing U.S. military-industrial interests of fueling conflicts like Ukraine. The conversation shifts to generational decline, citing plummeting birth rates (500K net births vs. 2.6M in 1960) and single-parent households (41% unwed births), framing societal collapse as inevitable without anti-establishment leadership. Carlson rejects political ambition, while Bet-David pushes for conservative unity to counter "divide and conquer" tactics, ending with a call for truth-telling over institutional decay. [Automatically generated summary]
If it ended today and you looked at the states, Wisconsin, Biden has.
You can go through the others.
Trump has a big lead, I believe, in Arizona and another state by 11 points, 50 to 39. He's got a 3, 2, and 11 point lead on the six states that matter.
They're not even looking at North Carolina right now.
They're like, no, it's going to be his.
It's red.
We don't even want to report it.
As a battleground.
No, not even reporting it.
So if it ends today, it's him that's going to win it.
However, it's not ending today.
The amount of gamification that could happen between now and November 5th, it's endless.
And there's never been a time where we need to be paranoid about what could happen the next few months.
Never.
All of a sudden, you show up saying you want to debate June 27th.
I debated him two times and I beat him two times.
You want it?
Come on, tough guy.
June 27th.
And then you read the details.
Mike's going to go off the moment time's up.
Two, zero audience.
Why are we doing zero audience?
Well, you know, we're just going back to the way it was with Nixon and Kennedy.
And then the next day...
50 articles come out.
We're becoming traditional on how this whole thing about debate on TV started with Nixon and Kennedy with no audience.
That's the right way to do it so the audience can decide for themselves who the better debater is.
But listen, the last time we did without an audience was in 1960, whatever the timeline was with those two.
We've always had an audience.
The audience said, well, you guys got to keep it down.
But they know what's going to happen where he's going to have his moments where he says, because you'd be in jail.
And they're worried about those things.
However, here's what's going to happen.
I think as much as they try to protect him, as much as they try to protect him to kind of see what's going to happen with that, what percentage of people do you think that consume the debate are the type that consume highlight reels?
Like a game.
I don't watch full games, but I'll watch a highlight reel.
I'll watch some of the clips on Twitter to say, oh, look at this.
Oh, wow, good for these guys.
They won.
What percentage do you think of voters are going to watch the entire thing on TV, on CNN, versus what percentage do you think are going to get the highlight reels on Instagram and Twitter?
Because the clips on this side that they're going to cut it, edit it, put it out there, the audience is going to go at it.
You're going to see the polls.
You're going to see the reactions.
You're going to see who's going to be better editors.
Nowadays, the better editing team creating better clips in a fast manner with the right music, with the right creative B-roll and things you add to it.
And I don't know if you've seen the movie Civil War that just came out.
If you've seen the movie Civil War, it's about a, it's a commercial for Reuters of left-wing journalists and depicting the president of the time during the Civil War of an identical character.
Played as Donald Trump and the hero of the movie, to my knowledge, the way I saw the movie, was the person that assassinates the president last minute.
In the last minute of the movie, the president playing the role of Trump gets assassinated in the movie.
How many people does that movie need to inspire for somebody to become a leader?
It's very different than the other movie that was made, Leave the World Behind by Obama's and Julia Roberts.
This actually had a decent cast for the movie.
It's a very hard movie to watch.
Leave the World Behind was actually a better produced movie.
More dark, more deceptive, extremely divisive, a lot of messaging in there, predictive programming, stuff that you can watch and say, this can actually happen one day.
But yeah, I mean, look, a lot of, I don't know if you've seen the movie John Q. First time I watched John Q, Denzel Washington.
Do you know the story about John Q? No.
Okay, so it's a story about a father whose son is a fan of flex wheel.
He wants to be a bodybuilder and a son.
All of a sudden, heart collapses, and I think it's in the middle of a baseball game.
They take him to the hospital.
It's going to cost $250,000 to do surgery, and the company doesn't offer, you know, allowing him to get the insurance because he doesn't have the best insurance, and he's trying to go raise the money.
He can't raise the money.
It's pointing a picture of a father about to lose his son because the hospital's not willing to spend $250,000 to save this kid's life.
Right?
And you are going through this emotional rollercoaster ride with the father.
How many fathers are going to sit there and say, holy shit, what is this all about?
Right?
And then eventually there's a scene where he tells Kevin Connolly, the actor from Entourage, and he says, listen guys, just take it out of my heart and give it to him.
It's this unique scene.
It's like, I'm not going to do that.
If you're not going to do it, I'm going to kill myself.
You're going to take it out of my heart and you're going to give it to my son.
Intense, intense movie.
Then, while they're there, he's talking to his son.
His son is laying on the bed at the hospital, and he says, look, here's what I want you to think about.
If you go and pull up first Titanic, produced by Germany, Adolf Hitler, the hero is painted.
As the Nazi soldier.
The way you confuse propaganda, storytelling, is movies, docs, music.
You know this.
I mean, this is how you get the audience and the younger audience to buy in.
So you mean to tell me the movie Civil War cannot inspire one kid to want to be a hero and being written about for the rest of his life in history books?
You mean to tell me one kid's not going to be inspired by it?
So I worry about some of this predictive programming they're putting because they're going to say, well, you can't just say it was a movie that did it.
It doesn't take a lot of stuff to get a young kid to be inspired to do something.
So that's my part that's a little bit worrisome about what could happen in the future.
But yeah, I think they're willing to do anything and anything, everything and anything to not get them in the White House because they worry if they do, they're going to lose their membership.
I don't know if you saw what James Comey said yesterday.
He got emotional.
If he gets in there, he's going to completely change everything with our justice system.
He's going to do everything with FBI. And he's going to put some bad people in there.
And I'm telling you guys, this is the week.
You cannot, you cannot vote for Trump.
You have to support.
I've never seen Comey be this.
Animated about Biden being a president.
This just happened yesterday.
So there's a lot of people that are worried about losing their card.
You gotta wonder as you listen to Comey talk or Brennan or all these former agency heads of the most powerful agencies in the world, these guys still have security clearances?
And those should be revoked immediately by Donald Trump day fucking one.
Why do those guys still have security clearances?
I mean, if you believe in democracy, if you think that the people who live in the country own the country, it's their government and they have a say in how it's run, and that that government should reflect their priorities over time, and I think we all claim to believe that, then you can't have unelected agency heads or retired unelected agency heads running everything behind the scenes.
That is just absolutely antithetical to democracy.
So why do these guys continue to be allowed legally to run the government from outside the government?
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I guess the difficulty for the power-worshipping community is that they already did this in 2020, and now that tempers have cooled and people can think clearly, they stole the election.
Nobody actually thinks that was a free and fair election.
It wasn't.
And so the bar is a lot higher.
Like, how do you do that again?
And if you do it again, everyone's going to know you did it again.
And then what kind of country do you have in January of 2025?
You have to look at everything on a board to say, according to this and X, Y, Z, and what's going on right now, this should happen next in the next quarter.
Go to the history books and look at, well, when we raised the interest rate this many times, here's what happened next.
When we were going through inflation, you look at all the case studies.
When COVID first happened, Jennifer and I are in Beverly Hills.
We're about to have a board meeting.
And then last meeting, everybody that's supposed to fly and cancels.
I'm like, what the hell is going on?
We brought the kids.
We're about to go to Universal.
That's the day Rudy Gobert gave Donovan Mitchell from the Utah Jazz COVID. You know, NHL shuts down.
NBA shuts down.
That's the day.
Disney shuts down.
You know, so what the hell is going on?
We got to fly back.
We fly back to Dallas.
I take the family to the house.
I come back to the office, and I'm studying all the different pandemics that we've had.
And you'll see, out of all the pandemics we've had, how the market has reacted.
90% of the top 10 pandemics we've had, massive market drop-off, but every one of them six months later, It came back to exactly what it used to be, if not higher.
There's only one that didn't recover for 12 months, and that's eight.
Everything else, six-month recovery, right?
So I could sit there and say, well, this could be fear porn.
Market's going to go down to $18,000, $17,000, whatever could happen, but it's fear.
It's going to come back up six months later.
That's exactly what happened, right?
Boom, boom, came back up.
Okay, so trends, things to study, patterns.
On what's going on with today.
If we go to 2016 election, the mistake mainstream media made was what?
CNN kept inviting Trump.
He said yes.
They kept inviting him.
Yes.
MSNBC, yes.
We're getting all these crazy ratings.
We're killing it, MSNBC. No, he's bringing you ratings.
And then all of a sudden they're like, guys, we created a monster.
It's too late.
We've done a half a billion dollars of free media advertisement for this guy.
I keep thinking that about the Israel-Palestine thing.
I'm probably the only person in the world who doesn't have very strong feelings on it.
I like Israel.
I'm not against the Palestinians.
I'm just kind of agnostic.
I'm just too American for this whole conversation.
But when that becomes the biggest news story in the United States, a conflict across the globe, and when these protests are blown so out of proportion by all news media, You have to think, like, maybe this is not a reflection of reality.
Like, maybe I'm being played here a little bit, right?
I want to apologize because I didn't start off by congratulating you on one of the most honest outlets out there, Newsweek, reporting your massive contract you signed with Russian TV. Congratulations on that.
It's just part of my ongoing business relationship with Vladimir Putin.
No, they, of course, I... Never even contemplated.
I have no idea what they're talking about.
I have nothing to do with Russian media.
I couldn't even identify three Russian media outlets, of course.
I don't speak Russian.
But that's a pretext for a FISA warrant.
So you put that out there, and Newsweek knows this, and they're mad at me for other reasons, of course.
And they put this out there, and all of a sudden it gives the Biden administration an excuse to spy on me, which they already are, and have been over the last several years.
But what's crazy is you can live in a country where that's completely illegal, and everyone knows it's happening, and nobody says anything about it, and the only people who do say anything about it, like Julian Assange or Ed Snowden, like, they're the ones facing life in prison.
It's like, you know, it's a little bit upside down, I would say.
No, but that story, look, the media don't just mislead you.
They're not just, you know.
Worker bees for the Democratic Party, they want to hurt you, like actually hurt you, like put you in prison or kill you.
They're that involved in the machinery of internal repression in this country.
So I would say that the problem that we have as non, you know, as people who are not part of the machine, you don't even need to be, it's not even a right or left question.
It's are you on the side of lies or are you not?
Is we don't understand just how serious they are.
I mean, if you were running DOJ and you saw a search warrant that said, yes, the use of deadly force applies in a documents case, a classified documents case.
By the way, the documents were meaningless.
No one's ever shown otherwise.
It doesn't matter.
You can put them on the internet now.
It just doesn't matter, actually.
And if you were the attorney general and you were looking through the warrant and said use of deadly forces is allowed, you'd say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're literally rooting through Melania's dresser.
We don't need to use deadly force.
Wouldn't you say that?
Just as someone who believes in fairness and sanity?
But at least the confidence comes the fact that never in the history of the U.S. has the government ever assassinated a president.
So it's not like that kind of person who's a very ambitious vice president would never do that to become a president historically and within minutes want to be sworn in.
It sounds like a dangerous conspiracy theory to me.
So let me ask you, though, it's pretty clear to me that two summers ago, so August 2022, when that deadly force raid on Mar-a-Lago took place and they rooted through the former First Lady's underwear, That was the moment when Trump kind of came back, like DeSantis was done.
This is my read on it.
The more they persecute Trump unfairly, the more transparently grotesque and corrupt it is, the stronger Trump becomes.
I mean, I think that seems pretty obvious.
There's been polling on this.
Do you think the people who did it knew that would happen?
I mean, there are many levels, and I don't know the answer.
I think it's getting a little late to try and replace him, honestly.
And I think that'd be a pretty hard sell.
And with whom?
And what do you do with Kamala?
This is the problem with DEI, with elevating people beyond their capacity, taking like a true mouth-breathing moron like Kamala Harris and making her vice president.
These are the wages of sin that they're dealing with now, and I'm really glad to see it.
So I don't know that they replaced him.
I don't know how they can.
Maybe they're more clever than I am and have a plan.
I think it's as simple as the guy who's down wants a debate.
And by the way, if I were in charge, you know, if I were some sort of benign monarch, hopefully benign, you know, no dual passports in my country.
Sorry.
I mean, because that really is the measure of commitment.
You know, are you all in or not?
Like, do you have options?
You know, have you burned the boats, as they say?
And I think you should be required to burn the boats.
No, you can't go back.
What?
You're here.
And once you are, this is what marriage is.
This is why you treat your wife better than you treat your girlfriend, because you're married to her, and it's very hard to get out of, and you've got children together.
And so in a normal marriage, the person's like, well, one thing I know I'm not doing is divorcing, so I'm going to actually...
I'm gonna suck it up and try.
And that works.
Sucking it up and trying works.
I feel the same way about my country.
I'm not going anywhere.
I don't have another passport.
I wouldn't get another passport.
How many people do I know with dual passports?
Like a million?
And they tend to be the richest people and the people who've gotten the most from the country, who've really benefited from our systems, which they've then destroyed.
And I think that should be illegal.
Pick a country and pick a military.
No, you can't serve in a foreign military.
What?
And no, we're not going to pay you to serve in a foreign...
I don't care what the country...
I don't care if it's England or Sweden, where my ancestors came from.
I don't care if it's Burkina Faso, where yours came from, or Iran, where yours came from.
But the conversation, the question I got for you is when I was watching you and I'm trying to see the evolution of you from where you're at, your background, what you've done, sitting there saying, okay, is this, oh, he's leaving because he's going to build.
News Corp 2 because he wants to be the next, you know, Rupert Murdoch.
I'm like, I don't know if that's what he wants to do.
He's going to be Roger Ailes and he's going to produce a hundred other talents.
Maybe.
I don't know.
No, no.
He wants to be the Rush Limbaugh, you know, the number one for the next two decades.
And he wants to be able to...
So, okay, he's already that guy.
I don't think he needs to do that.
No.
Then there's a part of me that says, okay, I really think this guy loves America.
In a very sincere, clear conviction type of way, okay?
And I think he's willing to do anything for that.
This is not a conversation for 2024. Do you at all, like, internally think, and, you know, you're a very well-read guy, there's books here, there's plenty of books over there.
Do you look at Churchill and say, this guy was a journalist, controversial figure, the feud with him and Chamberlain, and all these other guys, and eventually he's like, listen, man.
We're going to need someone like this that's got the brass to come and do something.
Is there any limit of where you're willing to go to fight for what America, the idea of America, where you grew up, your story, your family, all of that, are you willing to go all the way to the point where you would consider a 2028 run as a president?
Well, I believe in using the gifts that God gave you, and I think putting people in the wrong jobs or the wrong marriages or the wrong schools is counterproductive.
In fact, it's a sin.
I think we're all born for something and you should figure out what that is and you should do it.
My dogs, two of my dogs can find any bird on any path in any field or forest in America.
They will find the bird.
They do not do my taxes because they're not born to do my taxes.
They're born to find birds.
And I feel that way about myself and everyone around me.
Do what you're born to do and I just don't see myself as a political person.
My only goal is to be free.
Personally free.
I really believe in personal liberation.
Like, tell the truth.
That's liberation.
About yourself, primarily.
But also about the world around you.
And my second goal is to preserve, you know, the country that I grew up in to the extent that I can.
I mean, recognizing that my powers are really limited and that my vision is blurry and I'm a human being, not God.
But, yeah, that's absolutely my goal.
I've never been that interested in money at all and I'm not.
Interested in building large organizations or administering them.
I'm not good at that.
And I just want to tell the truth.
And I'm absolutely willing, especially now that I'm 55, like who cares?
You know, you're looking at a future of what?
Like Parkinson's?
Like really?
At a certain age, you're like, what do you...
I see these old people, including a lot of old people in power who are like trying to squeeze out another year.
It's like, accept your mortality, please.
Spend some time with people you love and who love you, your children, your grandchildren, your wife.
None of them want to accept the finite nature of life.
So I do accept that.
And so I just want to do whatever I can to achieve those two goals, to remain free and honest inside, and to preserve the country that I really love.
Like, I loved growing up here.
And so have previous generations in my family, and I hope subsequent generations.
So that's kind of it.
I have always had low-bore goals.
I don't have any...
Grand plan for world domination.
I can't even dominate my town, you know, but I would do anything to do that.
I mean, there are some policies that nobody wants and they change everything because they're imposed by fiat.
That's real.
On the other hand, look at what triggers the liars.
It's not policy changes.
It's some guy standing up and saying, wait, that's not true.
The CIA knew about Oswald.
Like, shut up!
You know, it's like, or whatever it is.
Like, why don't you declassify the 9-11 document?
Shut up!
Conspiracy theorist!
It's like, why is that so threatening?
And it's so threatening because It's getting closer to the truth.
So saying the truth out loud, I mean, they spend all of their time trying to censor people.
Why do they do that?
Because that's the greatest threat to them.
It's not some bill in Congress.
That can be undone.
What can't be undone, if you get in an argument with your wife and you say something truly horrible to her, like vicious and, you know, true, kind of hard to fix that.
Like it'd be many years before you fix that because you've articulated something.
Those words have hung in the air as a kind of independent entity.
Like words have their own being.
In the beginning was the word.
And that does more damage than punching somebody.
It's true.
So I don't know.
I think telling the truth out loud is like the most powerful and revolutionary thing that you can do.
So we're at a family Goldman Sachs event in Chicago last week.
And they bring these 60 billionaire families.
And it's about family forum, founder family forum, something like that, right?
It was actually a very interesting thing to go because...
It's generational wealth to see how other families have done it.
So you saw all the owners of the different sports teams.
Reinsdorf, you know, they own the Bulls.
You got the Cubs.
You got the Blackhawk.
You got the Crown family, General Dynamics, $30 billion family, and they're kind of going through it.
And then you have the Walsh family.
Very, very interesting to listen to these guys.
One of the parts when the Crown family guy, Keating, is talking, he says, you know, in our family, I'm fourth generation.
I'm the oldest G4, and G4 means fourth generation kid.
He's a 47-year-old G4, okay?
His daughter is a 12-year-old who's the oldest G5 out of 150. Okay, so you got an oldest G4, oldest G5. Now, G5 is 150 kids, grandkids.
So imagine 150 kids that are coming from a billionaire family.
How much of that is coming to me?
What do I need?
It's kind of complicated to how to use that, right?
Okay, so watch this.
So then the next guy comes up and is breaking down the numbers saying, do you know what percentage of wealthy families' money makes it to second generation G2? 31%.
Do you know what percentage makes it to G3? 12%.
Do you know what percentage makes it to G4? 3%.
So wow.
31, 12, 3 to G... What is it to G5, G6, G7? Okay, so where am I going with this?
America is a family, is a company, right?
And it started off with the wealth that's been created, and now we got G1, G2, G3, G4, whatever it is today, G20, G30, G40, we're on a different G, right?
And except now...
It's like a super wealthy family.
Let's put a net worth of $32 trillion or $30 trillion minus all the credit card debt that we have.
That's another $32 trillion.
And we got a top-line revenue of, say, $4 trillion, whatever our GDP that we're doing per year.
No problem.
So you break this down and you're trying to get that money.
It was like, hey, what am I going to get?
How'd you forget about me?
I did this.
You owe me this much money.
Oh, shit, we got to make this guy.
We got to make that guy.
We got to make this guy.
The way it's going, It's catastrophic on what's going to happen, money-wise, here very soon with the next generation that are entitled on what you're going to give to them next.
So, many times, just like when you look at people that should have more kids, don't.
The people that don't have the resources, are not teaching the values, are not that responsible, are not the examples of a good citizen to duplicate other kids.
They're having seven, eight, nine kids.
And so we're duplicating the wrong habits at a pace faster than duplicating the right habits.
Eventually, what ends up happening is people that are not qualified to run a job do so, and they have control over you and I. I think it was Plato that said it.
And then you wake up in a country where she's a U.S. Senator, then Vice President of the United States.
It's like, no, I completely agree with you.
The problem is it's hard to fix that.
The generational, I mean, I actually grew up in a family like this, you know, G5 or whatever.
And like you look around and everybody's kind of not impressive and self-hating and not productive and increasingly not rich at all and drinking too much and decadent and filled with all kinds of...
For sure, but also at the same time, you know, when...
When you go and study Lawrence Miller's book, Barbarians to Bureaucrats, he talks about every civilization, every society, every country, company goes through these phases.
First, you have the prophet.
He's the founder.
You have the founding fathers, right?
Hey, we're going to go out there and there's no way we're going to pay taxes on taxation without representing...
Shit, okay.
These guys are not wanting to pay taxes.
Yeah, we're not going to...
They can't do that to us.
All right.
Then they inspire barbarians.
Okay?
So Jobs inspired barbarians.
Musk inspires barbarians.
Sometimes the prophet is a barbarian.
Musk is both, right?
Jobs is both.
Our founding fathers, many of them were both.
So you got prophet, barbarian, builders, explorers, then you have administrators, then you have aristocrats, bureaucrats.
Then comes the downfall.
Company, family, legacy, G4, G5, it's done.
And the only way at this point that you can save that civilization, that society, that company is for a synergist that comes in and is able to rally enough of the people to say, here's what we're going to be doing.
He's not trying to rally the aristocrats.
He's not trying to rally the bureaucrats.
You're not going to get those guys.
Those guys got to get fired.
He's trying to rally the builders, the explorers, the guys that are saying, hey, man, I just want to kind of go out there and build my business.
I feel we're at an era right now.
We're at a phase right now where...
The synergists need to say, you know what?
I feel like I can play the role for this.
Great.
Let's roll.
I think these guys need to, right now, either be recruited, they need to be inspired, they need to have people that come to them and have a conversation saying, hey, I think you need to consider, we got...
Five of us here, we came here for one reason.
We're thinking about talking to you about 2028. Not interested, not this, not saying these conversations are not happening.
Of course, they're happening behind closed doors regularly.
But I think these guys, if America's worth saving, if the concept of saving America is something that we value, we need to either choose, if we can, contribute kind of like you, or we need to inspire and recruit and get others to say, I think you ought to consider doing this.
Meaning that's exactly what, if the person's wanting, that's exactly what they want you to do.
They want you to be sitting there saying.
Yeah, I mean, what can I do?
You know, I'm just like, I can't do anything about it.
In every organization, in every great movie, every great story, every great book, the hero's journey you go through, it's typically the guy that doesn't want to do it.
They go in intentional, a certain level of conviction deep down inside.
Where you're saying, there's something different about the way this guy's selling it to me than others.
I don't know why.
I like this guy.
I trust this guy.
He seems reasonable.
I can listen to this guy.
I think those guys are out there.
And the idea years ago, they asked Castro, hey, if you had to do it all over again, how many thousands of people would you need to be able to pursue your vision of communism and all this other?
Would it be 10,000?
Would it be 100,000?
Would it be 1,000?
He says, I need one.
Person who's a hundred percent true believer.
That's all I need.
With one, we would have done it all over again, right?
There's this idea that we think we need 70, 80, 1,000, 10,000.
We need one person who we can rally behind.
And by the way, the other thing I would also say is, you know, the founding fathers, 1776, they did what they did.
Benjamin Rush, you got all these guys, Smith, Jefferson, Washington, of course, Franklin, all these names, right?
Where are those guys today?
Who are getting together once a month, once a quarter, once every six months to talk.
Where are those guys today?
Where are those guys today?
Do we not need those guys today?
And I'm not talking about Congress, Senate.
I'm talking about guys that can hold those guys accountable.
Where are those guys today?
I don't know.
But I think the great thing about what's been going on the last four years, specifically, maybe start at 16, got pretty bad in COVID, 2020, 2021. The one thing that's been very weird the last four years, The right people are finding each other.
So cable is dropping, but not at the pace people thought.
What Peacock did paying $110 million for the Dolphins game against the Chiefs and had 23 million people watching that they had to pay, what, $499 or $999?
That changed the game with sports.
So cable's sitting there saying, holy shit, what are we going to do now?
I think they just signed two NFL games that either Amazon or Netflix, one of those guys paid some $100 million, $120 million.
So you're seeing sports make the transition out of cable TV because cable TV's been saved by three communities.
You've got the Boomers.
You've got the sports community, and you've got Big Pharma.
You take those three out, there is no cable.
It's gone.
Big Pharma gets their advertising dollars through there, so you need one president to come in and say, hey, we're not going to be one of two like New Zealand allowing you guys to advertise on TV. You're gone.
Do it elsewhere.
You're not going to advertise anymore.
You know who goes out of business if they do that?
Or even when Robert De Niro, when he's at a film festival and a documentary was coming out about vaccine by, I think, Del Bigtree, and he's talking about the documentary because he's got an autistic son.
I think he's like 22 or 23 years old.
That's one area where he's like, we have to look into this.
What's going on with this?
And he's kept account of, at the time, the kid was 16 years old.
But I think there's some moments, and they try to hide it as much as possible.
There's some evidence that it is true, and we do know that they took the additive out of the vaccine, but it, of course, had nothing to do with autism.
But, like, in what world can't you ask that question or demand, like, a straightforward answer?
And when they ask them on how much you charge for a basic surgery bypass or whatever it is, their range is from, you know, $44,000 up to $580,000.
Why is that range such a big range?
And by the way, who controls your pricing?
And do you guys have to report on what it really costs you to do this?
And I think under Trump, I don't know if you remember this, in 2020, 2021, he kind of came out with a law forcing hospitals to report honestly, like, here's what you're doing.
I think out of 500 hospitals, they audited 471, never even completed their numbers.
So they're charging people.
Most people think it's providers making a lot of money.
Providers are not making a lot of money.
They're losing money.
The people that are making money is hospitals.
So hospital models, I need sick people.
Big pharma models, I need new diagnosis.
The more new diagnosis I have, the more new drugs I can sell.
So I need new drug diagnosis.
What is the contractor's model, military contractor?
I need war if we don't have war.
How the hell are we going to make money?
If I go to mainstream media, what do I need?
Controversy, conflict, chaos.
That's how I make my money.
When you actually look at the business model of what these guys are doing, they need chaos and problems to keep making money.
Of course.
So that part is a very concerning thing.
So going back to mainstream media, three things keeping them in.
Boomers, Pharma, and Sports.
So now what sports is happening is a lot of these sports guys are realizing cable's not paying well.
I'm going to go sign a contract with Peacock, with Netflix, with Amazon, with all these guys.
They're paying good money.
They got a lot of money.
These other guys are dying.
Some of these smaller sports market are saying, I don't want you to play it on TV. Forget about it.
It means nothing to me what you're paying me.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to go out there and put it on my own OTT. I'm going to put it on my over-the-top.
You want to watch the game?
You can only see it on the Phoenix Suns.
Over the top.
So holy shit.
Cable's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't do that.
That's problematic.
Now the small market TV is getting crushed.
So cable, problematic.
They got to figure out a solution there.
Let's go to conservative side.
On the conservative side, you got Daily Wire that they're dealing with, you know, whatever happened between Candace and Ben, which has been a problem that they've been trying to clean up.
Whatever the reasons are behind it, that's, you know, the landscape of what they did, the decision-making process.
You kind of saw, A few different things.
Everybody, whether it's from October 7th, specifically from October 7th is a place to go.
Everybody, you can tell, like if we're living in LA and we're trying to find out what gang everybody is in, okay, those guys are MS-13.
These guys are blood.
They're crip.
They're this.
They're that.
You all of a sudden saw, okay, these guys are Israel above all.
These guys are conservative above all.
These guys are debate above all.
These guys are discourse above all.
This is curiosity.
This is built on pure money and profit and wanting to sell and be a SPAC and go on the stock market and sell, and I'm a billionaire.
No problem.
But what you did filter out in the last, it was accelerated.
It was like, ah, boom!
We learned about everybody in six months from October 7th.
It was everybody got exposed.
And now they're trying to backtrack.
Well, no, not really.
And that, well, no, not really.
It is going to be tough because you have to maneuver through a lot of the stuff that you said in the last six, seven months, and the market's going to hold everybody accountable for what you said.
And imagine what Lincoln Project did to 2020, where we had all these guys on, and then the reports came out, this guy's pedophile, that guy's this guy.
It was a complete mess when we had this conversation.
And then the argument is, well, you know, we had Dave Rubin on and Rubin says, well, you know, you don't know the whole story and you know what's going on there.
And she had said something and da-da-da-da-da.
Okay.
Yeah.
She questioned certain questions.
Now you may say we're not comfortable with this.
No problem.
But your position when...
You know, you knock off, you go after, you know, Candace talking about Crisis King, and then you're playing the games, and then if the story comes out, the fact that they used Candace asking Ben for a debate as a form of getting the gag order, if that story comes out, let's just say that story's true.
I think Glenn Greenwald reported on it.
If that is true, if it's not true, well, then Glenn Greenwald's got to go through it and say what he's got to say.
But if that story is true, that they used the tweet from Candace to...
Almost lure her in and then call the lawyers.
If that story ever comes out in the next year, two years, three years, if that comes out, that's very problematic because talent is going to have to feel comfortable going somewhere.
Great talent is going to have to go somewhere that they feel safe, they feel protected.
Dana White is a great case study for this.
Conor McGregor, a diva, loud, problematic sometimes, chaotic.
Dana knows how to work with him.
Okay?
Phil Jackson.
Nobody wanted Dennis Rodman.
Phil knows how to work with Dennis Rodman.
Come here.
We'll win.
He goes to the Lakers.
Come here.
We'll win.
They did.
Right?
And before Chuck Daly, who was a coach of the Pistons.
You know, Draymond Green, Steve Kirk can handle it.
Right?
Sometimes talent, if you look at how they are, there needs to be somebody that knows how to work with them as well.
You have to show, as a publisher, as a media company, that you know how to get talent.
Build them up, and also you know how to be on closed doors to massage and work with them while they're going through their changes.
As a talent, if you don't know how to manage ego and manage divas, you're eventually going to lose your best talent to elsewhere that knows how to do that.
And number two, the divas are always going to be scared of someone like you, because that's the one thing they don't want.
They don't want to go to a place to be like, hey, here's what I need you to do.
And what eventually ends up happening is the following.
You guys crushed it on cable TV for God knows how many years.
And you guys all had an ugly falling out at the end.
Fox has to rebuild that reputation if they want to attract talent like that.
If not, what they're going to end up catching themselves doing is, especially at a time where more people are realizing, I don't need you.
This is very problematic.
It's not like the leverage is on them.
The way some of these media companies are acting today, they could have gone away with that 20 years ago.
You can't today.
Because talent has a choice.
They didn't have a choice 20 years ago.
Where am I going to go 20 years ago?
Think about it.
20 years ago, if I'm working for CNN or MSNBC and I got a show and Rachel Maddow and whatever, Brian Stelter and all the guys, and all of a sudden, they go super left and you're in between the Maddow show.
Chris Cuomo, though, who I've already said I like, and I mean it, and I think is talented, is having trouble, from my read, re-entering the conversation.
People are still mad at Chris Cuomo about COVID. Is that your take on it?
Imagine all of a sudden you get so close to Fauci and you're all of a sudden hanging out with Rachel Matter.
You guys are best friends.
And you're hanging out with all these guys on the left and suddenly you sit there and say, no, the right was wrong.
Everybody should take the vaccine.
Everybody should go through it.
Imagine you take a position like that suddenly.
How does your wife feel about it?
How does your family feel about it?
Your lineage of what you've done, your history, where you come from, how do they feel about it?
You have to sleep next to your wife.
For Chris, as he's going through this process, You're talking to the guy off camera.
My kids absolutely love this guy when he comes in.
He wrestles, does jujitsu with my kids.
They're doing this, they're doing that.
Off camera, we have the most fieriest arguments.
Hour, two hour, three hour, just absolute like, boom, boom, boom.
And then, hey, okay, man, I'll talk to you next week.
Done, right?
And a part of me, I'm not speaking on his behalf.
This is something he needs to make a decision for himself is, when I go through it and I process it, He gives me zero vibes of somebody who's on the left.
If you care what the feminists think, and obviously you shouldn't because it's so degrading to care what they think, but then you have to mouth certain lies and you're like required because you're afraid of the screechiness.
Supporting the Iraq War, working for Bill Kristol, being used to attack Pat Buchanan, basically being used when I was younger as a writer because I was just not aware of the larger cross currents, and I didn't follow my own instincts.
I followed orders.
You know, those are the marks of a weak man, and I was, and I'm embarrassed of that.
So one day, this is when all my content was on entrepreneurship and we were running the top channel on YouTube for entrepreneurship.
If you would have typed in entrepreneur, 50 videos pulls up on the search.
Half of them were ours.
We just owned the word entrepreneur, okay?
And that led into the consulting from BayDavid Consulting.
You go to BayDavid.com or Manect, all that stuff.
That's the entrepreneur side.
We would look at what words, In the titles we do best.
Words.
Okay?
So, let's go through a couple of them.
Rules.
Very good word for YouTube.
20 rules of whatever.
10 rules of whatever.
So, rules, for whatever reason, great word for YouTube.
People want to get rules.
12 rules for life.
Jordan Peterson.
20 rules for money.
7 million views on YouTube that I did 10 years ago.
And people want to learn the rules of money.
Basic video.
It's nothing crazy about it.
20 rules for money.
Okay.
Another word.
And I'm kind of going through this thing.
As an entrepreneur.
As a whatever.
So, you know, seven keys to success.
As a parent.
As an entrepreneur.
As a journalist.
As a doctor.
As a student.
As a whatever at the end of the title.
Okay?
So that end of the title triggers back.
As a student.
I'm a student.
Boom.
That audience.
It's an evergreen title.
People keep coming back and watching it, right?
These are words.
You know what's one of the most powerful words that we would put on titles?
Absolutely crush it.
Mistakes.
Ten mistakes I made.
So now, running an insurance company, anytime you and I would go up and we would only talk about the things we did right, one of the worst speeches you give.
Nobody feels they can do it.
So what I would do is sometimes, I would get my best guys and some guys that have gone through some stuff and let's just say their ego is not allowing it.
And I'm picking the topics for my guys.
And all our guys already know what this is all about.
I would say, you have 20 minutes at MGM Grand Arena.
I want you to talk about the 10 biggest mistakes you made in your career.
And they knew that would give me the smirk.
Oh, shit, I'm going through it, right?
So then we'd go to the event.
And then there's ways you spin mistakes.
Well, the mistakes I made is trusting people too much.
And I'm not talking about Chris, specifically, who, again, I really like.
And I will say, just to be very clear, again, if he can't fully apologize for things he said that were demonstrably wrong because he doesn't want to dishonor the memory of his father or alienate his brother, I respect that.
I mean, if you're doing gain of function research, in other words, if you're trying to make dangerous viruses more infectious and more dangerous in a world with a demonstrated history of lab leaks, you know...
Thank you, Lyme disease, and all the rest that we know, COVID, have come from labs.
Like, you're gambling with the lives of millions of people.
Like, why should you be allowed to do that?
They're trying to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life on a documents charge.
You brought home documents that are technically classified, but the guys doing gain-of-fucking-function research are walking free?
But the point, the reason why I'm asking you the question is, the point why I'm asking you this question is, In order for that to happen, if the establishment from the left or the right is in office, you will never find out, ever find out.
This is why we need more guys from the anti-establishment side to say, I'm really curious to the point where I'm going to go in there and find out.
So the part which is kind of weird is when Biden's camp doesn't want to give him protection, doesn't want to put him on the stage.
Again, this goes back to me wondering.
Either you have something up your sleeves or you really think you have such an October surprise that you're going to leak to the world that Bobby's going to step out like the way they did with Herman Cain.
Oh, I'm going to have to pause my campaign.
So maybe there is something that you and I don't know about.
What's going to come out?
The guy's been on for a long time, 69, 70-year-old guy, family, girls, good-looking, accolades, background.
What are they hanging on to that they're not leaking yet?
I don't know.
So why are they not afraid of the guy?
These are all things that I wonder on what the left has, the establishment has that they know they're going to go after.
You think it's more like it's an easier person to control?
I mean, if you look at people who raise money, right?
If you go do a case study of people that ran for...
Who are our top four...
Non-establishment candidates of the last 70 years.
Okay?
Kennedy, partially Reagan, Trump, and then who else you got that's non-establishment last 60 years?
Okay, Ross Perot.
That's right.
Ross Perot got to what?
19 points.
Reagan, I think 9.6% of the funding for him running for office was his own money, I think.
It was that number.
Hillary Clinton, 100% donor-funded.
Biden, pretty much 100%.
John F. Kennedy's father, Joseph, I think put 40 or 50% of it.
Trump, we know how much of it is his in 2016. Obama needed other people's, everybody needed other people's money.
So whoever that needs other people's money is controlled by the other people, which is the ideal candidate.
So Kamala, for them, is like, that is the ideal person for them because they can control and say, hey, checkmark, for the rest of your life, your Wikipedia is going to say vice president.
To the left, she is the number one person on the leader's bulletin.
She's the number one draft pick for the left, maybe even ahead of Newsom, Michelle.
But let me, again, my opinion, I could be wrong.
I'm just giving you my POV on this.
So, okay.
So let's play, you get rid of Kamala and you put in Newsom, which they would love to have Newsom as a VP. And then you transition out, well, Biden's going to be stepping down June of 2025. Newsom's now the president.
What an easy way of getting Newsom elected.
The easiest way of getting Newsom elected is bring him in.
But okay, you announce Kamala is stepping down.
Great.
What ammunition do you give to the greatest troll of all time on the other side to call you racist?
It's done.
What's Trump going to do if you get rid of Kamala and put Newsom in?
Look what they did.
All they talk about is female power and blacks and all this stuff.
They put her back on the bus and they replaced her with Newsom.
Shame on the Democrats.
They're the most racist.
I mean, can't you already see it?
Easy playbook for them, right?
But if they bring in, instead of Kamala, Kamala comes in and there's not enough time for a Supreme Court justice type of a position.
Let's say Kamala comes in behind closed doors.
Say, Kamala, you come out and you say something's going on with the family.
Because cancer, everyone's going like, oh my God, you know, and hey, God willing, we were able to avoid a chemotherapy and she didn't have to go through it.
And this is so, thank you for all your prayers that none of this stuff happened.
And, you know, they came to me and we were talking and as a collective, I think Newsom is the most qualified.
That's going to be problematic.
But if you bring Michelle in, that's easy.
It's a very easy fit to bring her in.
The question then becomes, does Michelle want to be a VP? Is her ego a VP person?
She's like, has nothing in common with any American.
She's nasty.
She's a hater, clearly.
She's utterly ungrateful for every special advantage she's been given her entirely.
She went to Princeton on a free ride and she's mad at Princeton?
Really?
I mean, everything about her is like mediocre, mean, dumb, and not a single achievement in her entire life other than marrying this guy in a fake marriage.
So, like, on what grounds could that person run the country?
I know, but I'm just saying, like, they zero in on the most repulsive, Images and people, it's like they're kind of an x-ray, sort of a reverse image of everything that's beautiful and dignified and virtuous.
Like you're electing, we're going to say that a woman who lives in Hawaii, compounds in Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard is somehow like, it's a victory for civil rights or something?
What would be the rationale?
Are we at the end of that cycle where people have to vote for someone like that?
It doesn't help your family, your country, but you have to go back to who the customer is.
In order for- The military contractors to make money, they need wars.
In order for many of these other business models to make money, they need crisis.
In order for a Vanguard or a BlackRock to get a $400 billion, I think it's Vanguard, but I do know it's BlackRock, to get a $400 billion contract to rebuild Ukraine.
You need Ukraine to be destroyed to rebuild it.
If Ukraine isn't destroyed, you don't need to rebuild.
These are all great business models for these folks.
So Diddy is, the video comes out of him beating Cassie, his ex-girlfriend, that within 24 hours they settled for $30 million and that story was gone like...
A year ago or something like that.
So finally the video comes out.
From 2016, this video, he's hitting her in the head, pulling her hair, dragging her middle of the hotel.
So, by the way, when you process it that way, that goes back to me thinking we need to change incentives because in 1960, only 4% of kids were born to an unwed mother, like a single mother.
To be divorced, to stay single, to keep having kids, to stay on welfare, the incentive program is created for me to stay entitled for my entire life relying on some kind of welfare.
And by the way, you know, both you and I have four kids, right?
You're in a place where your marketing campaign isn't working, you want to help us put a better creative marketing campaign for you, we'll help you with that.
Your comp plan to pay your employees.
You don't know how to set up a proper variable comp or structure the equity or profit sharing in your sales guys.
You're considering your comp is flat and you need to kind of find a way to improve it.
We'll help you with that.
You want to expand into a different marketplace?
We'll help you with that.
You want to find a C-suite executive and you don't know what's the right way to interview and what qualities to look for or what job description to put?
We'll help you with that.
These are things that we're going to focus on the small business owner side because that's a language that we speak.
Comfortably.
Last year, I held an event called The Vault Conference.
Tom Brady was at the event.
We're holding this one this year at Palm Beach Convention Center.
We're expecting nearly 10,000 people to be there.
For three and a half days, we talk purely business, strategy, growth, all of that, right?
So the consulting firm is a big part of our pillar of what we're going to be doing.
Product development on Manect, the Manect app.
I don't know if you heard about the Manect app.
It's grown exponentially.
Quarter to quarter, we're up 780%.
The whole thing with Manect is eight years ago, I call a lawyer.
I have a seven-minute call with him.
He bills me for 30 minutes.
I call him.
I say, why are you billing me for 30 minutes?
I have the number here.
He had a seven-minute call.
He says, minutes roll up.
I said, not to 30 minutes.
Maybe to 10 minutes.
He says, no, it's 30 minutes.
I said, what do you charge by the minute?
He says, no lawyer charges by the minute.
I said, one day I'm going to create a website or an app that I get to pay people by the minute.
So, do you have a minute to connect?
Let's connect.
So, whereas most places you email somebody, And the response rate, a cold email is 1%, less than 1% that someone's going to like.
Somebody cold response.
Hey, Tucker, I'd love to talk to you about a job.
What's the chances of getting back to that person an email?
So we have the consulting, we have the product development, we have the media side.
On the media side, I think the media landscape right now is wide open.
It's filled with a lot of talented people, some that are driven by money, some that are driven by fame, a few that are driven by values and principles.
We're driven by values and principles and a vision, and it's pure conviction.
It's not like a, you know, I need another nice car, I need another nice house, or I need another, you know, however much money in the bank.
No.
This is, we have a real vision, a real cause that we're going to go for 40 years.
And I think at the end of the day, 10, 20, 30 years down the line, they're going to look at this thing and say, oh, wow, this is one of the most influential companies in the world.