► 00:00:00
I have to add, I just can't resist, and I don't mean this as a criticism because I actually love it, but the most famous video on the internet is you shot off camera in a previous job before five.
► 00:00:12
What am I doing?
► 00:00:13
Going live?
► 00:00:14
You're going live.
► 00:00:15
We'll do it live.
► 00:00:16
Okay.
► 00:00:16
Look.
► 00:00:17
We'll do it live.
► 00:00:20
Do it live.
► 00:00:21
I'll write it and we'll do it live.
► 00:00:25
Thing sucks.
► 00:00:26
I was in Iceland and I had some gnome come up to me and go, you're the going live guy.
► 00:00:33
I said, what?
► 00:00:34
I'm in Iceland.
► 00:00:36
That was in Reykjavik?
► 00:00:37
Yeah.
► 00:00:38
And it's all over the world.
► 00:00:40
I mean, there are Japanese guys going, live guy.
► 00:00:43
I mean, it's ridiculous.
► 00:00:45
So I'm on Inside Edition and they can't tape it every two minutes.
► 00:00:52
They go, oh, we didn't get the audio.
► 00:00:55
Oh, you were out of frame.
► 00:00:57
Oh, there's a giant glob on your ear.
► 00:01:00
And they couldn't get it taped.
► 00:01:02
So finally, Irish guy went, all right, we'll do it live.
► 00:01:07
F it.
► 00:01:08
Do it live.
► 00:01:10
I'll write it and we'll do it live.
► 00:01:13
F ⁇ ing thing sucks.
► 00:01:16
And there it goes everywhere.
► 00:01:20
Exactly what happened.
► 00:01:21
Thank you.
► 00:01:22
You're welcome.
► 00:01:22
I've wondered about that.
► 00:01:24
But here's what people don't understand about television news.
► 00:01:28
It's like professional football, the NFL.
► 00:01:32
If you are a talent, both Carlson and I are a talent.
► 00:01:36
That's what they call us because we're on television.
► 00:01:41
You have to beat the shows that are up against you.
► 00:01:45
Right?
► 00:01:46
So when I was at Inside Edition, I had to beat Wheel of Fortune or whoever I was competing in.
► 00:01:52
Right.
► 00:01:53
Okay.
► 00:01:53
Or at least come close.
► 00:01:56
You have to beat the other team.
► 00:01:59
And if you do meet them, like you did and I did, then you're rewarded with money.
► 00:02:06
Not love, not loyalty, money.
► 00:02:10
It's a pure play.
► 00:02:12
So when personnel changes, then it's all thrown into chaos.
► 00:02:19
So Tom Brady leaves the New England Patriots, right?
► 00:02:23
Yeah.
► 00:02:24
The entire dynamic of the organization changes.
► 00:02:28
Now, some might say for the better, some might say for the worse, but it's totally different without Tom Brady.
► 00:02:34
But here's where the analogy breaks down.
► 00:02:35
The Patriots didn't fire Tom Brady the minute he won the Super Bowl and then denounce him as a sex criminal or a racist.
► 00:02:42
So why would you fire the guy in your case, for example, who had dominated the space, was continuing, still number one?
► 00:02:49
Like that just seems acting against interest.
► 00:02:51
Like why would you ever fire the top guy?
► 00:02:53
Matt Lauer actually asked me that question.
► 00:02:56
Yeah, good question.
► 00:02:57
Okay, and he asked me it on the Today show in a kind of haughty way.
► 00:03:03
I said, it was business.
► 00:03:04
Pride goeth before the fall.
► 00:03:06
So I never asked them why they did what they did, ever.
► 00:03:11
But why attack them?
► 00:03:12
But listen to me for a minute.
► 00:03:13
This is important.
► 00:03:14
I never asked them why they did what they did.
► 00:03:17
I accepted it.
► 00:03:19
Okay.
► 00:03:19
And then, as I said, we got the contracts in order.
► 00:03:23
But at the time, they were trying to buy Sky News.
► 00:03:29
And the Sky Operation runs all the soccer in Europe.
► 00:03:34
Huge money-making.
► 00:03:36
Oh, yeah.
► 00:03:36
All right.
► 00:03:37
News Corp trying to buy them.
► 00:03:39
The British regulators were giving them an awful hard time for a number of reasons.
► 00:03:46
And in my mind, I thought that might have something to do with it.
► 00:03:50
But I have to tell you this honestly.
► 00:03:52
I didn't care.
► 00:03:54
I had been there for 20 years.
► 00:03:56
It was time for a change.
► 00:03:58
When I started cable news, it was nothing, but I knew it was going to be huge.
► 00:04:04
And then I said, you know what's going to be the next huge alternative independent media.
► 00:04:09
Yes.
► 00:04:10
And I just scampered on over to it.
► 00:04:12
I think there was a week, only a week before I started billoreilly.com.
► 00:04:17
We already ended up and running as a news operation.
► 00:04:20
I took a number of people from Fox with me, good people.
► 00:04:23
And to this day, it's been six and a half years.
► 00:04:26
It's the most successful independent news agency in the world.
► 00:04:30
But so you didn't spend any time locked in your bedroom with a bottle of vodka at all?
► 00:04:35
No, I don't drink.
► 00:04:36
I'm too boring to drink.
► 00:04:38
That's why I don't drink.
► 00:04:41
I don't think feeling sorry for yourself is a good use of anybody's time.
► 00:04:48
I accepted the situation, which is the key to life.
► 00:04:51
I knew I wasn't going to change it, right?
► 00:04:54
They made a decision.
► 00:04:54
They made a decision.
► 00:04:56
So why am I going to brood about it?
► 00:04:59
I mean, a lot of Irish guys brood.
► 00:05:00
Yes, yes.
► 00:05:01
It's a brooding island.
► 00:05:03
It is.
► 00:05:03
But I'm not really a brooder.
► 00:05:05
I'm like, okay, that happened.
► 00:05:08
The concern I was for my children.
► 00:05:10
I protected my children as best I could, and I succeeded on that, I think.
► 00:05:15
But for me, it was now we're going to do this, and we're going to make this sing.
► 00:05:20
And we have.
► 00:05:22
Amazing.
► 00:05:22
So you lost no time?
► 00:05:24
None.
► 00:05:25
None.
► 00:05:26
In fact, I was writing books.
► 00:05:27
I was doing radio.
► 00:05:28
I mean, my radio franchise stayed right where it was.
► 00:05:32
Nothing happened there at all.
► 00:05:34
Nothing happened in publishing.
► 00:05:36
I mean, you know, Killing the Witches is the 13th killing book.
► 00:05:40
There was no interruption in that.
► 00:05:41
The only interruption was on cable news.
► 00:05:44
And so I went to another news forum.
► 00:05:46
How did you keep yourself from getting bitter, though?
► 00:05:49
I'm just bitter about everything anyway.
► 00:05:51
So that's your easy default.
► 00:05:53
Yeah, I was like, oh, how much more bitter can I get?
► 00:05:56
I'm just bitter 24-7.
► 00:05:59
I have what they call an edge to me.
► 00:06:02
All right.
► 00:06:03
And so, but again.
► 00:06:06
Where's that from?
► 00:06:07
Levittown.
► 00:06:08
You know, after World War II, the baby boomers, 100 kids, and if they didn't like you, it was like, okay, here we go.
► 00:06:16
No kicking, though.
► 00:06:17
We had rules at Levittown.
► 00:06:18
No kicking.
► 00:06:19
Brawling, couldn't kick.
► 00:06:20
So it was pre-UFC.
► 00:06:22
Yeah.
► 00:06:23
No tattoos at that time.
► 00:06:25
But anyway, I have a philosophy for life that I've developed.
► 00:06:29
And I stick to it in that discipline.
► 00:06:33
I don't go to a psychiatrist because why drive them crazy?
► 00:06:37
You know, that's not fair to the psychiatrist.
► 00:06:39
If I would walk in, I don't do any of that.
► 00:06:42
You know, I think I'm here for a reason, put on the planet for a reason.
► 00:06:46
I'm trying to be an honest guy, and I make everybody that I work for money.
► 00:06:51
But you know what?
► 00:06:52
The greatest thing is?
► 00:06:53
I'll never work for anybody again.
► 00:06:55
I run my own show now.
► 00:06:57
So is that the future?
► 00:06:58
I mean, what is it?
► 00:06:59
You said you worked everywhere in television.
► 00:07:02
Right.
► 00:07:03
Like, what is the future of cable news?
► 00:07:04
What is the future of news?
► 00:07:06
Cable news will be there.
► 00:07:07
Yeah.
► 00:07:08
But it's like the network news.
► 00:07:10
I mean, when's the last time you said you heard somebody say, wow, did you see that on Nora O'Donnell?
► 00:07:15
When was the last time you heard somebody say that?
► 00:07:17
I don't think I ever have.
► 00:07:18
No.
► 00:07:18
No.
► 00:07:19
But when Cronkite was there, and Rather and Broca and Jennings, there was juice.
► 00:07:27
Yeah, it was a real thing.
► 00:07:29
So cable will stay where it is.
► 00:07:32
And Fox will win, by the way, because Fox has better talent.
► 00:07:36
Fox wins, not because of this ideological, although they have an advantage because traditional Americans have nowhere else to go except Newsmax.
► 00:07:45
But Fox has better talent.
► 00:07:47
The talent's better.
► 00:07:49
And that's it.
► 00:07:50
So people gravitate toward talent.
► 00:07:54
I trained Waters, Jesse Waters.
► 00:07:56
I trained him.
► 00:07:57
Okay?
► 00:07:58
So whether you like him or not, he's talented, for sure.
► 00:08:02
Hannah's talent.
► 00:08:04
Hannity's talented.
► 00:08:05
He can deliver a broadcast.
► 00:08:06
Did you give Jesse advice before he started?
► 00:08:09
I only give advice when people ask me.
► 00:08:11
So you yourself have never asked me for advice.
► 00:08:14
But that's totally false.
► 00:08:16
I asked some advice.
► 00:08:19
No, that is totally what I took over.
► 00:08:22
I waited in the ante-room of your office.
► 00:08:25
Yes, I did.
► 00:08:26
In fact, Ailes told me, go kiss O'Reilly's ass.
► 00:08:28
That's the first thing I did.
► 00:08:29
A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to kiss an ass.
► 00:08:33
What did I tell you?
► 00:08:36
You said it's a very treacherous business.
► 00:08:38
Mind your own business.
► 00:08:40
Just stay in your own lane.
► 00:08:42
Do your thing.
► 00:08:42
Okay.
► 00:08:43
I thought that was good advice.
► 00:08:44
Yes, it was.
► 00:08:44
Okay.
► 00:08:45
I'm sorry, but I'm old now.
► 00:08:46
So I forget things.
► 00:08:48
Right.
► 00:08:48
What's your name again?
► 00:08:53
You'll hear people say the news is full of lies.