The Tucker Carlson Show - Bill O'Reilly Reacts to His Viral Freak Out
Aired: 2023-11-09
Duration: 08:56


=== Going Live (01:52) ===

[00:00:00]  I have to add, I just can't resist, and I don't mean this as a criticism because I actually love it, but the most famous video on the internet is you shot off camera in a previous job before five.
[00:00:12]  What am I doing?
[00:00:13]  Going live?
[00:00:14]  You're going live.
[00:00:15]  We'll do it live.
[00:00:16]  Okay.
[00:00:16]  Look.
[00:00:17]  We'll do it live.
[00:00:20]  Do it live.
[00:00:21]  I'll write it and we'll do it live.
[00:00:25]  Thing sucks.
[00:00:26]  I was in Iceland and I had some gnome come up to me and go, you're the going live guy.
[00:00:33]  I said, what?
[00:00:34]  I'm in Iceland.
[00:00:36]  That was in Reykjavik?
[00:00:37]  Yeah.
[00:00:38]  And it's all over the world.
[00:00:40]  I mean, there are Japanese guys going, live guy.
[00:00:43]  I mean, it's ridiculous.
[00:00:45]  So I'm on Inside Edition and they can't tape it every two minutes.
[00:00:52]  They go, oh, we didn't get the audio.
[00:00:55]  Oh, you were out of frame.
[00:00:57]  Oh, there's a giant glob on your ear.
[00:01:00]  And they couldn't get it taped.
[00:01:02]  So finally, Irish guy went, all right, we'll do it live.
[00:01:07]  F it.
[00:01:08]  Do it live.
[00:01:10]  I'll write it and we'll do it live.
[00:01:13]  F  ⁇ ing thing sucks.
[00:01:16]  And there it goes everywhere.
[00:01:20]  Exactly what happened.
[00:01:21]  Thank you.
[00:01:22]  You're welcome.
[00:01:22]  I've wondered about that.
[00:01:24]  But here's what people don't understand about television news.
[00:01:28]  It's like professional football, the NFL.
[00:01:32]  If you are a talent, both Carlson and I are a talent.
[00:01:36]  That's what they call us because we're on television.
[00:01:41]  You have to beat the shows that are up against you.
[00:01:45]  Right?
[00:01:46]  So when I was at Inside Edition, I had to beat Wheel of Fortune or whoever I was competing in.

=== Advice Only When Asked (07:03) ===

[00:01:52]  Right.
[00:01:53]  Okay.
[00:01:53]  Or at least come close.
[00:01:56]  You have to beat the other team.
[00:01:59]  And if you do meet them, like you did and I did, then you're rewarded with money.
[00:02:06]  Not love, not loyalty, money.
[00:02:10]  It's a pure play.
[00:02:12]  So when personnel changes, then it's all thrown into chaos.
[00:02:19]  So Tom Brady leaves the New England Patriots, right?
[00:02:23]  Yeah.
[00:02:24]  The entire dynamic of the organization changes.
[00:02:28]  Now, some might say for the better, some might say for the worse, but it's totally different without Tom Brady.
[00:02:34]  But here's where the analogy breaks down.
[00:02:35]  The Patriots didn't fire Tom Brady the minute he won the Super Bowl and then denounce him as a sex criminal or a racist.
[00:02:42]  So why would you fire the guy in your case, for example, who had dominated the space, was continuing, still number one?
[00:02:49]  Like that just seems acting against interest.
[00:02:51]  Like why would you ever fire the top guy?
[00:02:53]  Matt Lauer actually asked me that question.
[00:02:56]  Yeah, good question.
[00:02:57]  Okay, and he asked me it on the Today show in a kind of haughty way.
[00:03:03]  I said, it was business.
[00:03:04]  Pride goeth before the fall.
[00:03:06]  So I never asked them why they did what they did, ever.
[00:03:11]  But why attack them?
[00:03:12]  But listen to me for a minute.
[00:03:13]  This is important.
[00:03:14]  I never asked them why they did what they did.
[00:03:17]  I accepted it.
[00:03:19]  Okay.
[00:03:19]  And then, as I said, we got the contracts in order.
[00:03:23]  But at the time, they were trying to buy Sky News.
[00:03:29]  And the Sky Operation runs all the soccer in Europe.
[00:03:34]  Huge money-making.
[00:03:36]  Oh, yeah.
[00:03:36]  All right.
[00:03:37]  News Corp trying to buy them.
[00:03:39]  The British regulators were giving them an awful hard time for a number of reasons.
[00:03:46]  And in my mind, I thought that might have something to do with it.
[00:03:50]  But I have to tell you this honestly.
[00:03:52]  I didn't care.
[00:03:54]  I had been there for 20 years.
[00:03:56]  It was time for a change.
[00:03:58]  When I started cable news, it was nothing, but I knew it was going to be huge.
[00:04:04]  And then I said, you know what's going to be the next huge alternative independent media.
[00:04:09]  Yes.
[00:04:10]  And I just scampered on over to it.
[00:04:12]  I think there was a week, only a week before I started billoreilly.com.
[00:04:17]  We already ended up and running as a news operation.
[00:04:20]  I took a number of people from Fox with me, good people.
[00:04:23]  And to this day, it's been six and a half years.
[00:04:26]  It's the most successful independent news agency in the world.
[00:04:30]  But so you didn't spend any time locked in your bedroom with a bottle of vodka at all?
[00:04:35]  No, I don't drink.
[00:04:36]  I'm too boring to drink.
[00:04:38]  That's why I don't drink.
[00:04:41]  I don't think feeling sorry for yourself is a good use of anybody's time.
[00:04:48]  I accepted the situation, which is the key to life.
[00:04:51]  I knew I wasn't going to change it, right?
[00:04:54]  They made a decision.
[00:04:54]  They made a decision.
[00:04:56]  So why am I going to brood about it?
[00:04:59]  I mean, a lot of Irish guys brood.
[00:05:00]  Yes, yes.
[00:05:01]  It's a brooding island.
[00:05:03]  It is.
[00:05:03]  But I'm not really a brooder.
[00:05:05]  I'm like, okay, that happened.
[00:05:08]  The concern I was for my children.
[00:05:10]  I protected my children as best I could, and I succeeded on that, I think.
[00:05:15]  But for me, it was now we're going to do this, and we're going to make this sing.
[00:05:20]  And we have.
[00:05:22]  Amazing.
[00:05:22]  So you lost no time?
[00:05:24]  None.
[00:05:25]  None.
[00:05:26]  In fact, I was writing books.
[00:05:27]  I was doing radio.
[00:05:28]  I mean, my radio franchise stayed right where it was.
[00:05:32]  Nothing happened there at all.
[00:05:34]  Nothing happened in publishing.
[00:05:36]  I mean, you know, Killing the Witches is the 13th killing book.
[00:05:40]  There was no interruption in that.
[00:05:41]  The only interruption was on cable news.
[00:05:44]  And so I went to another news forum.
[00:05:46]  How did you keep yourself from getting bitter, though?
[00:05:49]  I'm just bitter about everything anyway.
[00:05:51]  So that's your easy default.
[00:05:53]  Yeah, I was like, oh, how much more bitter can I get?
[00:05:56]  I'm just bitter 24-7.
[00:05:59]  I have what they call an edge to me.
[00:06:02]  All right.
[00:06:03]  And so, but again.
[00:06:06]  Where's that from?
[00:06:07]  Levittown.
[00:06:08]  You know, after World War II, the baby boomers, 100 kids, and if they didn't like you, it was like, okay, here we go.
[00:06:16]  No kicking, though.
[00:06:17]  We had rules at Levittown.
[00:06:18]  No kicking.
[00:06:19]  Brawling, couldn't kick.
[00:06:20]  So it was pre-UFC.
[00:06:22]  Yeah.
[00:06:23]  No tattoos at that time.
[00:06:25]  But anyway, I have a philosophy for life that I've developed.
[00:06:29]  And I stick to it in that discipline.
[00:06:33]  I don't go to a psychiatrist because why drive them crazy?
[00:06:37]  You know, that's not fair to the psychiatrist.
[00:06:39]  If I would walk in, I don't do any of that.
[00:06:42]  You know, I think I'm here for a reason, put on the planet for a reason.
[00:06:46]  I'm trying to be an honest guy, and I make everybody that I work for money.
[00:06:51]  But you know what?
[00:06:52]  The greatest thing is?
[00:06:53]  I'll never work for anybody again.
[00:06:55]  I run my own show now.
[00:06:57]  So is that the future?
[00:06:58]  I mean, what is it?
[00:06:59]  You said you worked everywhere in television.
[00:07:02]  Right.
[00:07:03]  Like, what is the future of cable news?
[00:07:04]  What is the future of news?
[00:07:06]  Cable news will be there.
[00:07:07]  Yeah.
[00:07:08]  But it's like the network news.
[00:07:10]  I mean, when's the last time you said you heard somebody say, wow, did you see that on Nora O'Donnell?
[00:07:15]  When was the last time you heard somebody say that?
[00:07:17]  I don't think I ever have.
[00:07:18]  No.
[00:07:18]  No.
[00:07:19]  But when Cronkite was there, and Rather and Broca and Jennings, there was juice.
[00:07:27]  Yeah, it was a real thing.
[00:07:29]  So cable will stay where it is.
[00:07:32]  And Fox will win, by the way, because Fox has better talent.
[00:07:36]  Fox wins, not because of this ideological, although they have an advantage because traditional Americans have nowhere else to go except Newsmax.
[00:07:45]  But Fox has better talent.
[00:07:47]  The talent's better.
[00:07:49]  And that's it.
[00:07:50]  So people gravitate toward talent.
[00:07:54]  I trained Waters, Jesse Waters.
[00:07:56]  I trained him.
[00:07:57]  Okay?
[00:07:58]  So whether you like him or not, he's talented, for sure.
[00:08:02]  Hannah's talent.
[00:08:04]  Hannity's talented.
[00:08:05]  He can deliver a broadcast.
[00:08:06]  Did you give Jesse advice before he started?
[00:08:09]  I only give advice when people ask me.
[00:08:11]  So you yourself have never asked me for advice.
[00:08:14]  But that's totally false.
[00:08:16]  I asked some advice.
[00:08:19]  No, that is totally what I took over.
[00:08:22]  I waited in the ante-room of your office.
[00:08:25]  Yes, I did.
[00:08:26]  In fact, Ailes told me, go kiss O'Reilly's ass.
[00:08:28]  That's the first thing I did.
[00:08:29]  A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to kiss an ass.
[00:08:33]  What did I tell you?
[00:08:36]  You said it's a very treacherous business.
[00:08:38]  Mind your own business.
[00:08:40]  Just stay in your own lane.
[00:08:42]  Do your thing.
[00:08:42]  Okay.
[00:08:43]  I thought that was good advice.
[00:08:44]  Yes, it was.
[00:08:44]  Okay.
[00:08:45]  I'm sorry, but I'm old now.
[00:08:46]  So I forget things.
[00:08:48]  Right.
[00:08:48]  What's your name again?
[00:08:53]  You'll hear people say the news is full of lies.