Ghislaine Maxwell Trial Day 11 saw five witnesses—including Dr. Loftus and Kimberly C., Epstein’s former assistant—offer no new revelations, with the defense failing to shake accusations despite framing Maxwell’s alibi as professional. Speculation swirls around Eva Dubin’s potential testimony, linking her to Epstein’s trafficking claims via her daughter’s name on a seized CD. The trial’s rushed pace leaves hosts Liz and Brace frustrated, hinting at deeper defense strategies ahead of Monday’s closing statements. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello, and welcome to the shortest Truanon you'll ever hear.
day 11 hello ladies and germs my name This is my line.
Well, I just said it.
So my name is Brace.
I'm Liz.
We are, as always, joined by producer Jan Chomsky.
This is Truanon, but guess what?
Fake out.
We're actually not doing a full episode today.
No, we are actually going to basically combine today and tomorrow's episodes to give us a little more time to work on some stuff.
Today, we actually, despite the large amount of witnesses, not a lot happened.
But there are literally just today and tomorrow left for the fence because they're wrapping up on Friday.
Which is insane.
Insane.
So today they called five witnesses, I think.
Yeah, we heard a lot from Dr. Loftus, who we just recorded an episode about and the False Memory Syndrome Foundation.
I got that one right.
You did.
Finally, after even though we recorded for an hour, neither of us could get it right for that one.
And we heard from, well, you're going to have to spell this out for me.
Oh, my God.
Yes, Kimberly with a C, which is, I have to say, when she spelled out her name with a C, a lot of gasps around the courtroom.
Everyone turned around like they couldn't believe what they just heard.
Yeah, so this was Ghillane's assistant for a good, I mean, a long time.
Yeah, mid-90s to early 2000s.
Yeah, basically almost the span of the case, actually.
Yeah, and she had a lot of good things to say about Ghillaine.
She's currently the executive assistant for a unnamed but high-profile, well-known CEO in California.
And she basically, she had nothing nasty to say about Ghelane.
No, no.
You know, Hugh and I were talking last week, or it wasn't last, I guess earlier this week, even though we didn't have court, about whether or not they would, the defense would call any character witnesses and how they would do that.
And she was definitely there to provide a little bit of color commentary on Gillane's lovely character.
And Epstein's, too.
She spoke in rather glowing terms about Monsieur Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah.
Maybe advertising her little resume out there to any prospective CEOs who might hire her.
Yeah.
But overall, we learned absolutely nothing new from her.
Rather, she did her best to essentially corroborate Ghillane's story that she sort of dated Epstein and then stopped dating Epstein.
And it was all just a business arrangement.
And anyways, Ghelane was so busy at the office, she couldn't have molested anybody.
And there was also some corroboration over the timeline of the Lion King musical opening on Broadway.
But so what we're going to do is, because the defense case is so short, I mean, I don't think anyone anticipated it literally being two days.
Yeah.
Is that tomorrow we're going to record a kind of a longer episode, most likely, yeah, than what we've been doing with these updates to kind of give to sort of present like a robust like summation of the defense's case because so far it's kind of piecemeal and it's a little unclear to see exactly where they're going.
Yeah, like you know, we've talked about their different strategies of like trying to basically sow doubt.
And this is today, we did not get a clear idea of what direction they'll be heading in and exactly how their closing arguments, which will be on Monday, apparently now, will go.
You know what they have accomplished, though, sowing doubt in my mind that they have a case.
Yes.
And we have been promised three names tomorrow.
Two might be precluded, but one of them is Eva.
The first name only we know, Eva.
And if that is Eva, if that is Eva Dubin, wife of Glenn Dubin, and alleged also, you know, co-sex slavery with Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell.
And Jeffrey's ex-girlfriend.
And of course, Jeffrey's ex-girlfriend, who has been shown in the nude to David Rogers, one of Jeffrey Epstein's pilots.
Pregnant.
Pregnant.
Yes.
And whose daughter's name, although, of course, we don't know it's her, but his daughter's name was on one of the CDs that was taken from Jeffrey Epstein's house that we did see.
And who, of course, was rumored to, and this is the daughter, be possibly interested in marrying Monsieur Epstein.
So that could happen or it could be another Eva entirely.
We don't know.
But we will be back in the courtroom tomorrow a.m.
And we will be back here on the airwaves to kind of give you a better idea of what the fuck is going on in this case.
Because, boy, they really, they speedrun Ghelaine Maxwell's trial.
Yeah.
But we thought better to record a nice little message to send you guys.
Because rather than just like, no update.
We don't, we don't, we're look, we're not like other podcasts.
We don't ghost our listeners.
Here's the thing.
Also, Liz was like, just put up like a text post.
I put up a text post.
Only like 12,000 people see that.
And then everybody else is like, where the fuck's the episode?
No one looked at my text post.
I know.
What do you think?
Maybe you add a little image to the text post so that maybe it catches people's attention more.
A text post of a guy not reading my text post.
That would, that would probably, a lot of people would probably find that relatable.
All right.
Well, let's wrap this up so we can get some research going.
My name, of course, is Brace.
Well, I'm Liz, like I already said.
We are.
You know what?
You take this one.
We are.
Thank you.
Because we usually switch off.
We're, of course, joined by Young Chomsky, who is producing this and all episodes.