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Sept. 4, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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Report: Trump-backed ‘Operation Warp Speed’ KILLED Millions

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	You know, there has been a huge resurgence lately.
	All glory to God Almighty in the attention that's being paid to the white fibrous blood clots that we made so famous here.
	The white fibrous clots that are being found in the vascular systems of people who are dropping dead thanks to the COVID jabs.
	People who took this shot are dying in droves.
	The rest of them are walking around as ticking time bombs.
	And when their body gets an autopsy after they croak, or when they're being prepared for burial, it's discovered that they're full of these huge white fibrous blood clots.
	Which, as the name suggests, are made up of this white fibrous material that looks like it doesn't belong anywhere inside of a human body.
	Why?
	Well, because it doesn't.
	And that's why it's killing people.
	Now we've been covering this for years now.
	As I said, we made this white fibrous clot famous.
	We had funeral directors from all over the country and other countries who come on this show and they tell us the very same thing that when they're at work, they're finding these white fibrous clots inside the bodies of dead people.
	And at this point, it's just become so widespread that some embalmers have just gotten used to it.
	They don't even think that it's remarkable anymore because they just see it every single day that they go to work.
	But they should find it remarkable because these white fibrous clots are a direct evidence that these shots, these so-called vaccines, are just pure poison.
	They're patented weapons of bio warfare.
	They're a genocidal weapon of biological warfare, and those that took them run a real risk of dropping dead at any moment.
	Do you have these white fibrous clots inside of you?
	How would you know?
	But still, even as this issue has raged on for years, four years to be exact, nobody's done anything about it.
	And those who have talked about it have been maligned as conspiracy theorists or anti-science crackpots because those are the insults that they hit you with when you're right over the target.
	And you know what else they do?
	They come in and they seize control of the narrative.
	Just like the Trump administration is doing right now.
	Suddenly Trump is interested in the white fibrous clots, and suddenly it's okay to talk about these things.
	And do you want to know why that is?
	Well, it's because Trump is using this as political capital.
	He's the guy that's responsible for all of this in the first place.
	He has allowed the country to be shut down.
	He allowed Operation Warp Speed to be unleashed on the American people, and since that operation began, he has made a point of reminding everyone just how wonderful he thinks all of that was.
	And again, until recently, when he's needing to whip his supporters back into line amid the Epstein cover-up, now you're hearing these white fibrous clots.
	So that's what he's doing.
	And all of a sudden, people are acting like this is brand new information, but again, it's not.
	We have been talking about this for years, and so have many more, like embalmers and funeral directors from all over the world who say that they're seeing clot after clot in body after body.
	I'm gonna share a video clip with you real quick.
	This is footage from the Tennessee Funeral Directors Convention.
	And embalmers there and other funeral home employees were asked: hey, have you ever seen one of these white fibrous clots up close and personal?
	And as you might be guessing, yes, many, if not most of them have.
	Take a look.
	So um that involvers, can I even show hands in the room?
	How many folks can you are actually doing the active evolving in my mouth?
	Raise your hands, keep your hands up.
	Okay.
	Of those people, leave them up.
	Of those people that have um doing active embalming.
	If you're seeing these white fibrous clots of the last few years, keep your hand up.
	If we're not seeing them, please put your hand back.
	Okay?
	It looks like there's still quite a few hands up in it.
	That's interesting.
	Look around, folks, if you were filling the bulb, you can see how many hands are up.
	Hey, keep your hands up now.
	People that are other people in the funeral home.
	Umrevers who don't involve other staff.
	How many of you have seen the white fibrous plants as well?
	I know if you wander into the okay.
	So a lot of hands up there.
	Okay.
	Now that's just one example from here in the United States.
	And it gets even worse when we look at this on a larger scale.
	A worldwide survey of embalmers conducted in 2024 found that 83% of them reported seeing white fibrous blood clots in their line of work, with the clots occurring in an estimated 27% of all corpses beginning in mid-2024, as soon as the jab was rolled out and started getting pumped into the veins of countless victims.
	And while we might never really know exactly how many people have been impacted by these clots, it's pretty clear that it numbers in the millions, at least.
	And there are people out there who have been doing deep dives into this story to make sure that the world has a complete understanding or at least a better one of what exactly is happening here.
	One of them is Thomas F. Havilland, a retired U.S. Air Force colonel with over 20 years of service, plus 16 years of experience as a defense contractor working as an electrical engineer and data analyst.
	Well, since the scandemic when he was fired from his job for refusing a clot shot injection, Major Havilland has put his data skills to good use, analyzing the figures and facts surrounding the mass die-off that this country is still experiencing, in large part due to the white fibrous blood clots that we're talking about right now.
	Share more about what he's found.
	We're now joined on the Stu Peter show by retired Air Force Colonel Thomas Haviland.
	Sir, thank you so much for coming.
	We appreciate you being here.
	Thank you, Stu, for having me on again.
	This is what we're talking about, right?
	These nasty white fibrous clots.
	Um Richard Hirschman, the involver from Alabama provided me with this sample.
	Here's another sample.
	This is a huge one.
	This is a five and a half inch long clots, too.
	With it's about half an inch wide.
	This is out of the abdominal aorta.
	It's one of the largest blood vessels in the body.
	And these embalmers, they're they're actually kind of scared at this point.
	We're in the year four of this now, as you know.
	You like you said, you brought forth the Died Suddenly movie.
	What's interesting about that is I watched the movie the night it premiered, and I verified the very next day within 24 hours that that the whole story was true.
	Because I called the Ohio Embalmers Association and talked to their now president, Mr. Woody Wilson, and he said that he was seeing the white fibers clots in his funeral home up in Marysville, Ohio, about an hour north of where I live in Dayton.
	He he does his own embalming.
	So he he verified very quickly for me that this was indeed a real phenomenon.
	And that's led me to these last three years doing this worldwide embalmer blood clot survey.
	I also took a survey at that recent uh Tennessee Funeral Directors Association convention that took place on 8 June of this year.
	And the Tennessee embalmers said they're seeing the white fibrous clots in about 17% of their corpses, uh, as well as the other phenomenon called microclotting that I've been tracking as well, Stu.
	That's what the embalmers describe as what looks like uh dirty blood or uh coffee grounds in the blood draining off the corpse.
	And that's an indication of an equally dangerous phenomenon called microclotting that occurs at the capillary level, your very small blood vessels, and it can block the exchange of oxygen at the lungs, and then carrying that oxygen to all the major organs of your body, you know, including your brain, your eyes.
	That's why we see a lot of people these days with uh vision problems or brain fog.
	There's micro clotting going on inside their head.
	And that includes people, by the way, that did not subject themselves to the actual inoculation, but have been impacted through viral shedding.
	And we're seeing a lot of his so-called dirty blood, a lot of the brain fog.
	People are calling this long COVID.
	It's actually vaccine-induced autoimmune deficiency syndrome or VADES, vaccine-induced AIDS.
	And there was a Yale medical school study that just recently confirmed long COVID is fake.
	People are suffering from vaccine-induced AIDS, and not just the people who injected themselves, but also due to viral shedding.
	And you know, to your point about these blood clots and the percentage of the amount of people, this is now beginning to become kind of like normalized, or at least they're attempting to make this seem like it's just some kind of a normal thing, like the spike in childhood autism.
	You know, a 25% increase since the scandemic, a 275% increase since the early 2000s, directly correlated to the amount of shots that these kids are getting per the CDC childhood schedule when they go to see their pediatrician before they go back to school for their well child visits.
	The same way they're trying to normalize turbo cancers in young children or you know, people dropping dead at the peak of their physical condition in their late 30s, early 40s, or sometimes even younger.
	Medical doctors, we talked about the big die-off of these medical doctors in Canada who were all forced to get this shot, but this isn't normal.
	So when you point to these white fibrous clots, is there historical data that shows that these things even existed pre-the-rollout of this patented weapon of biowarfare?
	Good question, Stu.
	Uh, back in the late 1980s and early 1990s, there was a syndrome called white clot syndrome, and they had clots that looked very similar to these white fibrous clots.
	That turned out to be driven by the uh anti-coag coagulant drug heparin.
	And uh some people were reacting to heparin with too high of a molecular weight, and it was forming these white fibrous clots, and that was being driven by the uh element sulfur.
	This time we believe the the culprit is the element phosphorus, which by the way just sits right next to sulfur on the periodic table, and there's a lot of phosphorus in the phospho lipid nanoparticles of the vaccines.
	And we believe it's uh driving the same kind of phenomenon.
	But most of the embalmers that have been in touch with have 20 or 30 years of experience, have never seen these white fibrous clots until 2021 after the COVID vaccines rolled out.
	Well, your research and your data analysis, I mean, this is your wheelhouse.
	So I want you to take us through some of this.
	And we have some slides that you sent over to us, and this is really important information.
	So I want you to go right after it.
	Yeah, in my first survey that I ran, I asked the embalmers that question when did you first start seeing the clots?
	And there were a few embalmers that said they saw the phenomenon in 2020, which is interesting, Stu, because that's the uh year that we had COVID but no vaccines yet.
	And as we know, there is a spike protein on the surface of the virus.
	So it can, if it gets into the bloodstream, which it's more difficult to do, because first of all, it has to fight through your mucosal membrane, get inside your body.
	But once it does, if it does get in the bloodstream, it could potentially cause these white fibrous clots.
	However, starting in 2021, there was an explosion of the number of embalmers that said they were seeing the white fibrous clots in 2021, many more after the after the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccines.
	And that makes sense too, right?
	Because as you know, the jabs were supposed to stay in your upper arm in your delta deltoid muscle, produce just enough of the spike protein to listen to an immune response for just a couple of days to a week and then be gone.
	Have you ready for COVID?
	But that's all, right?
	No.
	The lip nanoparticles go all over the body.
	They produce the spike protein, it may be indefinitely, right?
	So you're getting massive amounts of spike protein.
	And that's when the embalmers uh you know start to see many more of the white fibrous clots starting in 2021.
	But as you say, embalmers that have only been embalming the last three, four years, to them, this is normal, right?
	It's only the old timers, the people that have 10, 15, 20 years of experience, they'll recognize this is far from normal.
	In fact, if you go look in old pathology books, you will not find these white fibrous clots.
	You'll only see traditional what's called grape jelly clots, which are like dark grape jelly, or what's called chicken fat clots, which are yellowish in color, small and tear very easily, much different than these uh large white fibrous clots, you know, which are uh the the embalmers describe them as what looks like calamari and stretches like a rubber band.
	So it's totally different phenomenon, a new pathology.
	And they're difficult to dissolve and they don't really break apart easily.
	So, yes, if you can imagine chewing calamari, and I've never touched one of these white fibrous clots.
	I've held, I've held a vial similar to what you did uh when I met in person with Hirschman, who by the way is an absolute hero in all of this, and put it all on the line.
	So you attributed some of this to the virus as well.
	Uh I've got a different opinion when it comes to whether or not this is a virus, because I know that this is a weapon.
	This is a biowarfare, biological, biochemical weapon that was, you know, it was really concocted here on our own soil.
	I mean, this was Fort Dietrich, this was University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.
	This was offloaded to level four bioweapons labs that are operated by the Pentagon that are overseen by the CIA, that are funded by the U.S. taxpayer.
	There's dozens of them in Ukraine.
	They're all over the place.
	The level four bioweapons lab in Wuhan, China, that they just conveniently changed the name to to make it more friendly, the Institute of Orology.
	That was a huge psyop because there is irrefutable, indisputable physical evidence that suggests that the origination of all of this was on U.S. soil.
	And COVID itself was a DOD operation.
	I've never heard of a virus, you know, that was part of a Department of Defense initiative.
	So I don't agree that this was a virus, but you're attributing some of this.
	I agree with you wholeheartedly.
	I think it's a culmination of decades of research that the United States, the Chinese, and the Russians have done.
	The Russians did uh lots of decades of research on uh blood clotting viruses and trying to enhance blood clotting.
	Uh the the Chinese and the Americans have worked for decades on um ways to make viruses replicate faster and also escape immune detection as well.
	So I I think you're right.
	I think this uh SARS-CoV-2 is a best of US Chinese and Russian decades and decades of research to make viruses nastier in a manual.
	And to be clear, there's no way to deploy that without a forethought.
	There's no way to concoct and deploy this without intent.
	Do you agree?
	You know, at first I thought maybe it was an accidental escape, but as we go further and further into this, you start to see the intention of these people.
	And they haven't done anything to dissuade us of the fact that it looks like all of this was intentional.
	At first, I thought was, you know, a money grab.
	They were going to try to make a whole bunch of money, the big big pharmacy, uh, big farmers going to make tons of bucks off of this.
	But then as they've gone further and further along, despite the fact of all this injury being done, you know, done on humanity, both death and disability, and the fact that they kept doubling down as opposed to taking these never even pumped the brakes, not once.
	There wasn't even a slowdown at all.
	This was the greatest accomplishment of my presidency.
	This is one of the greatest accomplishments of all time.
	You know, that's President Operation Warp Speed, who hasn't backed away from this at all.
	And just days before he mentioned these white fibrous clots, just days before that, he again was touting Operation Warp Speed as one of the greatest accomplishments in all of human history.
	So I mean, there's just no way around the fact that he absolutely knows, and at this point, it's just objectively true that he's complicit in all of this.
	Well, we have been disappointed at this point in time.
	You're absolutely right, Stu.
	I'm trying to my best to reverse that, as well as others like Dr. Peter McCullough, Nick Holcher, who you had on the show recently.
	Um, we've been in contact with people like uh Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Jay Bodichari.
	I actually talked to both of those gentlemen on the phone within the last month, sent them information about the white fibrous clots to try to say, hey, you know, we need to take these shots off the market right now because as you said earlier, the the embalmers are finding these things in 27% of their corpses.
	One out of every four of the dead have them in them.
	And we don't know what percentage of the living have them in them, uh, you know, growing right now to the point where they eventually block off a vein or artery and cause a heart attack or stroke.
	But I gotta think it's a pretty significant percentage.
	So this is a big deal.
	And, you know, the the world needs to know about this.
	And the terrible thing is retired U.S. Air Force majors had to go out and do these surveys over the last, you know, three years to not with just in balmers, by the way, Stu, but I've also tried to do uh surveys with vascular surgeons, endovascular specialists and cath lab workers,
	because last March in 2024, I actually was contacted by an endovascular specialist and cardiologist in Jacksonville, Florida, named Dr. Mohanabascherett, and he works in what's called a cath lab, where he uses flexible catheters to remove clots from living people.
	And he admitted to me, Stu, that he's been removing these same white fibrous clots from living people for the last four years.
	In fact, he actually sent me an email with a photograph of one of the clots and also the angiograms of what it looked like in the gentleman's leg before it was removed.
	So we know this is happening in the living, and it's you know, it's it's a serious thing.
	The problem with that is is I actually tried to run a cath lab worker survey with the um about 120 uh vascular surgeons around the U.S. I also sent it to the societies for vascular surgery in the United States, Canada, UK, and Australia, New Zealand.
	Guess how many responses I got, Stu?
	They just refused to participate.
	Zero.
	Yeah, zero.
	The doctors don't want to talk about it at all.
	The United States uh Society for Vascular Surgery is headquartered in Rosemont, Illinois, and they brag on their website of having over 6,300 members.
	To what do you attribute that?
	Do you think that that's just ignorance, denial, or do you think that that's complicity and arrogance and the refusal to want to admit their involvement in all of this because they might see that there's accountability coming?
	I mean, what do you attribute just the refusal of doctors who we are presented with as these you know white lab coats, stethoscope wearing professionals who we can put our wellness and our safety and our well-being and our health into the hands of, including that of our children?
	I mean, these people have completely turned their backs.
	And and specifically, I'm talking about America and Americans because that's who I care about.
	These people have turned their backs on Americans in America at these hospitals, at these clinics, at these research labs.
	They know exactly what's going on, Major.
	Do you agree with that?
	Totally, totally, Stu.
	You know, they they're violating their oath of first do no harm.
	They in fact the uh endovascular specialist and cardiologist that I was in touch with, who by the way, broke off communications with me.
	He sent me an email saying, Tom, I've been instructed to terminate communications immediately.
	Sorry for the inconvenience, about a month after he first contacted me.
	So somebody at the administration at the hospital got to him, right?
	They threatened him.
	They said, if you talk anymore about this, we're gonna take away your license, take away your board certifications, like they did to McCullough.
	Yeah, so just keep working, shut your mouth and continue to take away the lives of innocent people, including children.
	In fact, I asked him, What are you doing with the white fibers clots that are being removed?
	Are they being sent to pathology?
	He said, No, they're just being thrown away.
	So the evidence is being destroyed, Stu.
	It's just it's it's unconscionable what these doctors are doing.
	In all of your research and data collection, what is to you the most shocking aspect of all of this?
	I mean, is it just the confirmation that yes, indeed, it's irrefutable at this point?
	Nobody can argue the fact that 100% unequivocally, these white fibrous killer clots came from this weapon of biowarfare that was released under the guise of a safe and effective vaccine.
	Well, I mean, we have to say that correlation is not necessarily causation, but man oh man, we have got so much correlation here.
	You have to say that I don't know embalmers from Tennessee raising their hands.
	I've in addition to Mr. Woody Wilson, the president of the Ohio Embalmers Association.
	I have uh Mr. Chris Calvey Jr., who's uh president of the Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association saying he's having problems getting fluid from the elbows down into the hands of almost all of his corpses.
	I have uh Mr. Kevin Swired, who's the president of the Manitoba Service uh funeral service association saying that he's been seeing the white fibers clots, and of course um Mr. Taylor Moore, who invited me to speak to his Tennessee embalmers back in June because they're they're afraid, like I said, what's happening with these clots, and seeing that they're not going away.
	So the the evidence we have is overwhelming.
	And like I said, in my latest survey, uh 250 of the 301 embalmers from around the world said they were seeing the white fibers clots.
	So it's overwhelming evidence.
	250 of 301 embalmers.
	Yeah, 83%, Stu.
	Yeah, seeing the clots.
	So it's just the evidence is overwhelming.
	You know, the part of the problem is a lot of the people on our own side uh are supposed to are conservative media big people like uh Tucker Carlson, Glenn Beck, Meghan Kelly.
	I have tried and tried, communicated with them multiple times, and they refuse to put me on their show to talk about this most spectacular side effect of the COVID vaccines.
	I mean, you these you know, this is really the only one you can see.
	Wait a second, name those names again.
	Who have you reached out to about these findings and they said that they weren't interested?
	I heard Megan Kelly.
	That doesn't surprise me.
	Well, that's the but that's bizarre because Megan's been injured by the jabs herself.
	She has an autoimmune disease caused by the COVID vaccines.
	Didn't she lose a friend or a family member immediately after they got boosted or got one of these injections?
	I thought I remembered her saying that.
	Yeah, of all people.
	I know.
	Last September, by the way, Stu, I actually went uh to meet uh Tucker Carlson in person.
	I paid $1,600 to do a 30-second meet and greet with Tucker Carlson at an event that he was speaking at at Hershey, Pennsylvania.
	And I presented him with a vial of the clots, gave it to him to keep, also gave another vial to his uh producer Samantha.
	Have not heard from Tucker at all about this.
	And the same with Glenn Beck.
	Glenn Beck, uh, I've been on one of his minor shows on the Blaze Network at uh with um uh who was it?
	Uh Matthew Peterson and Jill Savage do a morning show called Blaze News Tonight.
	I was on that show, but Glenn, you know, has a large nine to noon Eastern uh radio show nationwide, but he refuses to put me on his show.
	Which is I've been a guest as a call in there.
	He didn't know that it was me, but I was a guest uh, you know, caller of the Glenn Beck show.
	He he quickly got rid of me uh when I when I called.
	And there was a Tucker Carlson event that I went to in Salt Lake City as an invited VIP backstage all access guest, but Glenn Beck wanted me removed.
	It was just before I released a film right here called Occupied.
	And I was asking Tucker to be in this film because everything in this film is objectively true.
	Nobody can deny the contents of this film.
	It's a it's a huge concern.
	Uh and I know as a retired, you know, U.S. Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, you know, any of any veteran would look at the situation and say, that's not what I was fighting for.
	Uh Tucker Carlson, I I'm not surprised at all that he hasn't commented on the white fibrous clots because this is an operation, and this operation is still being carried out against the American people and unsuspecting global citizens.
	There, there's an intent behind this that's depopulation.
	Bill Gates stood in front of the whole world and said we can we can address this overpopulation problem by vaccine.
	And you know, written on the demonic Georgia guide stones, there it was, reducing the world population.
	So I mean, there are very specific objectives that the very people behind the deployment of this weapon of biowarfare have, and they're not going to comment on that.
	And then, of course, they have their co-opted, you know, paid influencers and media personalities.
	These people are all funded by the people, you know, that push this stuff out.
	So it doesn't surprise me at all.
	Well, I'm not sure.
	But we'll never censor you here.
	You know, because a couple of days ago, Donald Trump did put out that uh truth social comment saying that he wants to get to the truth, and it was kind of giving permission to actually talk about the vaccine injuries now.
	You know, he's kind of slow, like you said at the beginning of your monologue, kind of starting to back away maybe a little bit from Operation Warp Speed now that he sees how bad it's gone.
	So I'm hoping that now, you know, Tucker and why does everybody say that?
	Why why why why is that the talking point?
	Why does everybody say, well, now finally that Trump is realizing it, he was duped.
	Just think about what's being said there.
	This is the president of the United States.
	This is the commander in chief of a scarf called Deborah Burks and some rat-faced demon named Tony Fauci were able to pull the wool over his eyes, he's unfit to lead.
	This is the most powerful man in the world.
	So how is that a justification for any of this behavior?
	I'll never understand that.
	I agree with you, Stu.
	He he is he is known all along.
	He is known all along, and now he's making for maybe political reasons a move that he thinks is in his best interest.
	And it's interesting because I don't know why he would feel the need to do that either.
	What political gain?
	I mean, he can't run for another term.
	It's already being, you know, like kind of foreshadowed that JD Vance is taking his position and maybe before the end of his scheduled term.
	Uh now that these health rumors are rolling around about President Trump, and then JD Vance with his cryptic statement saying, Hey, you know, President Trump is in really good health, but if tragedy strikes, I'm ready to lead.
	And then you see Peter Thiel right behind him smiling because it's time to roll in Palantir and you know, put the final launching measures on this super surveillance state uh that our enemy wishes to deploy here in the United States, track trace and control.
	And then that goes, you know, by extension to RFK Jr. with these wearable medical devices so that your biometric data can be captured and disseminated to God knows who for God knows what purposes, other than, of course, to continue waging unrestricted warfare on a supposedly free American people.
	It's just a big joke.
	And anybody who makes excuses, we're gonna talk to Tom Rens right after this.
	He was on InfoWars with Alex Jones yesterday in some kind of a I don't know if it was like some Donald Trump Fallacio competition.
	These guys were on their knees yesterday, so we're gonna talk, you know, to him.
	I just I love Tom, I disagree with that.
	And you know, full disclosure, I disagree with Dr. Judy Mykovitz as well.
	She was on the program just the other day, and I love her to death.
	I mean, I consider her to be a huge hero, and she's been very brave.
	They jailed her, they killed her husband.
	I mean, that woman has been through hell and back.
	And so for her to make excuses for RFK Jr., you know, that oh, well, you know, until the first fiscal year is done in October, he can't really assume the full powers, you know, of the office of hu health and human services secretary.
	Anyone who's nobly uh upright, morally upright, anybody who really has that position and that power, you know, would go before the American people on day one and say, this is a patented weapon of bio warfare.
	We're gonna hold the people who deployed it and who pushed it accountable.
	They'll face a tribunal.
	Uh 100% of the supply in our country is gonna be captured and incinerated, and these people will face extreme accountability for the lies that they have told and for the warfare that they've unleashed.
	But he's just not doing that.
	And anything short of that, it's just kabuki theater.
	It's all a theatrical presentation in a murderous movie that we're all playing our roles in unsuspectingly.
	Stu, I agree with you 100%.
	You know, I know you do.
	And it it it's it's terrible.
	Trump had plenty of opportunities a long time ago to get on the right track, and he didn't do that.
	And I think maybe now he's maybe worried about his legacy.
	You know, he's getting old, and he's and it's gonna go down to history books.
	But if the true history gets written, it's gonna be go down that both the Trump administration and the Biden administration kept this M RNA you know, poisonous product on the market way longer than it was supposed to be, kept on the market.
	It should have been taken, never should actually come to market.
	And actually actually, you know, after it shortly did come out, it should have been pulled almost immediately after we started seeing all these horrific side effects.
	So Major Havilland, where can people find the totality of your research, your power points, your slides, more videos like that one.
	Yeah, they can go to uh my uh assistant Miss Laura Kasner runs a free Substack that we affectionately call clotastrophe.
	You can find that at Laura L A U R A Kasner, K-A-S-N-E-R.
	Substack.com.
	Lauracasner.substack.com.
	And it's free.
	All right, so here it is.
	Uh we actually have it pulled up here.
	Let's just take a look at this.
	Clautastrophe.
	And that is Laura Kasner, L-A-U-R-A-K-A-S-N-E-R.
	Substack.com.
	You can see it there on the screen.
	Actually, our upper third covers that, so I'll just say it again.
	LauraCasner.substack.com.
	This is really important stuff here.
	If you want to arm yourself with all of the information, the confirmation that really substantiates and solidifies the suspicion that you may have had regarding the direct correlation between these supposed alleged mRNA injections, which has been a lot of question about the contents inside of these vials as well.
	And under scrutiny, in many cases, the lack of MRNA that's in these vials.
	That's very interesting as well.
	And you heard Major Havlin talking about Robert Malone.
	That guy was going to sue me.
	That lawsuit went away.
	This is the guy who said that he was responsible for inventing MRNA.
	He was really big during all this.
	You guys remember that guy?
	Well, there's a lot of information that contradicts a lot of physical evidence that contradicts everything that he said throughout COVID-19.
	There are some very evil, very deceptive people involved with all of this.
	But you know what doesn't lie?
	What doesn't lie is evidence.
	What doesn't lie are footprints and fingerprints.
	What doesn't lie is data.
	What doesn't lie is research that can with withstand scrutiny because the truth can withstand scrutiny.
	So I would just implore you, if you have had suspicions about this, if you have had doubts about this, if you're like Stu, you're just defining crazy.
	You know, we're out here trying to save lives.
	They're killing you in these hospitals.
	They're killing you in these clinics, they're killing you with big pharma, they're killing you with poisons.
	They know that they're doing it.
	They're doing it with premeditation.
	We're trying to save you.
	Just go look at the info.
	LauraCasner.substack.com.
	We'll put it on the website as well.
	Thomas Ren's coming up after the base report.
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	I don't know if you've seen this or not, but this is at White House.gov.
	There are actually articles where President Trump brags about the investments that are being made with your money.
	It's called the Trump Effect, which is a running list of U.S. investments in President Trump's second term.
	And on this list, of course, you have six hundred billion dollars going to Apple.
	Project Stargate, which is a US-based open AI.
	500 billion dollars, Nvidia, we've talked about plenty of times.
	500 billion dollars.
	As you go down the list, you'll see Johnson Johnson and AstraZeneca responsible for the release of the bioweapon that has maimed and killed countless people, as well as made everybody else a ticking time bomb, 20 billion dollar investment into Amazon and other big box companies that work directly against you,
	like Google and Blackstone, a $25 billion investment from you, from your tax dollars going to Blackstone, an Israeli-based private equity firm that's buying up single family residences here in America.
	This is a destructive agenda.
	Completely destructive to the American way of life and to your retirement and to your financial position.
	And we have been warning about this.
	And the White House is just here bragging about it as if these are achievements.
	And chances are your financial advisor is acting within the edicts of Wall Street, which is responding to White House investments that are being made by President Trump.
	Thank you.
	Three billion dollars annually going toward Israel and these war efforts.
	All of the munitions that we're sending there.
	This is catastrophic damage to the American people and to the American economy.
	This is not a merit-based economy.
	This is nepotism.
	This is Trump fulfilling his promises as APAC's 200 million dollar man, ushering in the AI super surveillance state, the track trace and control that Carlos Cortez talks about at length on Scriptures in Wall Street.
	We address this stuff on Stu Peters Financial, and he's here with us for the money minute now.
	People's financial advisors are taking their retirement accounts, which have now been opened up thanks to another EO by President Trump to private equity like Blackstone and BlackRock and the Carlisle group, all of these people who now can just dip right into your 401k, steal it with impunity.
	It gives them immunity to be able to do that to fund whatever the hell agenda it is that they want.
	And now the White House is just openly bragging about the fact that they have taken the American taxpayers' stolen money and invested it into these things that we have been warning about.
	And then you have the Trump sycophants and acolytes that are out here just giving him accolades, saying, Yeah, this is great.
	This very same people, by the way, that have warned against this.
	You have ways to protect people uh from this theft and to keep the government's dirty hands, criminal hands, murderous hands off of their investments and their retirement accounts.
	People don't even realize that they're that this is where their hard-earned money is going, Carlos.
	Yeah, selfishly and quietly, I'm kind of smirking here because uh we we plan for all this, too.
	And if you're a client of mine, you are uh safe and secure.
	Uh we know the manipulations that happen.
	We are anti-manipulated um investment philosophy at the core using green money strategies.
	So Trump can do whatever he wants.
	Is Israel can do whatever they want.
	The markets can continue to be manipulated as they are.
	Uh, we know the manipulations, we make money off of it.
	And I'm really confident that when you call our office and we get to actually analyze what you have, we can come up with a solution so that you can be profitable in the next financially inoculated, manipulated uh market that we are going into, especially that interest rates are coming down.
	Look for more manipulation to come and the market's rising.
	Um, I just bought some call options today, uh, yesterday, thinking that TQQ would be over 90, and I was wrong.
	It would be it's today, it's at 9017.
	Uh, this is some of the knowledge that we just talk about on scriptures in Wall Street.
	This is some of the knowledge that we talk about on SPF.
	And I don't know what people are doing with their vaccinated advisor that's clueless at the wheel, but I've been here since the jump, and I'm willing, willing to uh roll my sleeves up, have that blue-collar mindset with a white-collar capability, and help our Godfire and Americans uh not get taken advantage of the stupid Wall Street casino.
	Nobody can look at this list and say, yeah, that's a really great idea.
	Nobody can look at these investments that are being made by President Trump and say, yeah, these are organizations, these are companies, these are private equity firms, these are initiatives that I can get on board with.
	Everybody that wants to run away from track trace and control, everybody that wants to run away from AI and bioweapons that are produced by Johnson and Johnson and AstraZeneca.
	Nobody can say, yeah, this is a really great idea.
	I want this, I'm comfortable with this.
	But the truth is, if you're using your dad's financial advisor, if you're using one of these heavily advertised Super Bowl commercial type financial firms for your investments, this is what you're investing in.
	Nobody could be proud of that, nobody's aligning with that.
	None of our audiences in alignment with that.
	But I guarantee you, there is a huge swath of our audience that has financial advisors that are participating in this exact thing.
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	CortezWM.com Welcome to the baseball frank Stocks here on the Stu Peters Network.
	Frankie Stock coming to you live from here in Washington, D.C. Frankie Stocks here reporting for the Stu Peters Network in Washington, D.C., where we are undercover, doing a little bit of reconnaissance.
	This is what the Hebrew Immigrant Age Society wants to take away from you.
	Welcome to the base report for Frankie Stocks here.
	Frankie Stocks has been paying close attention to all of this for us.
	He joins us out of Shermark.
	Your top three stories in three minutes from your base reporter Frankie Stocks.
	This is the base report.
	Frankie Stocks in the green room, straightening out that beautiful mustache, getting his hair right, taking some deep breaths.
	Probably got some American hemp hub.com supplies over there getting ready to deliver the news that nobody else is talking about, all of the silent headlines, and that's really important.
	So now the white fibrous clots that we made so famous.
	Beyond a shadow of a doubt, unequivocally were caused by Big Pharma, who Trump is now teaming up with.
	He wants to bring you your AI enhanced MRNA.
	Personalized injection along with Sam Altman and Larry Ellison.
	And we can talk about the Trump effect and all of the different things that President Trump is investing your stolen tax dollars into.
	Apple, Nvidia, IBM, of course, Johnson and Johnson and AstraZeneca are getting a combined 105 billion dollars.
	So that they can combine with big tech.
	And all of the people that Trump spent his entire first term warning us about.
	He can now shake hands with them.
	He can now align with them.
	He can now bring them into his orbit.
	The government can now steal your money through a lot of different memes, by the way.
	Trump's new executive order that just came out last month gives private equity firms like BlackRock, Blackstone, the Carlisle Group, and more the opportunity to come right into your 401k and steal it.
	To go invest it in a bombs that are manufactured by Lockheed Martin or Raytheon and drop them on top of children so they can build Trump Gaza.
	This is your president.
	The guy is a murderer.
	The band-aid needs to come off.
	The guy is a mass murderer.
	Thank you.
	And now he's sending armed U.S. personnel to Ukraine.
	This is part of the base report Frankie has at the clock is on.
	Three minutes begins right now.
	Thanks, Stu.
	Yeah, that's where we're gonna start off tonight in Eastern Europe.
	This war that just will not end, you know, it's supposed to end 24 hours after Trump took office.
	Now here we are more than eight months later.
	Russians, Ukrainians still killing each other, hundreds of thousands, if not a million by now, dead Christians, dead white Christians, which is exactly, of course, what the people running this government and governments just like it want.
	But NATO is now stepping up here to say this peacekeeping mission that was talked about after Trump's meeting with Zelensky and his meeting with the Europeans, this peacekeeping mission is going to happen.
	There are going to be NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine.
	In all likelihood, Americans will be involved.
	But even if they're not, America will be involved once these peacekeepers, who aren't peacekeepers, these people are bait.
	Once these guys are killed, once these guys start engaging the Russians, Americans will be there immediately.
	They're already masked in Eastern Europe, just waiting to go in.
	They've been there for a couple of years now.
	And so this is all about getting American boots on the ground in Ukraine.
	Russia has said this is a red line.
	If NATO comes in with their fake peacekeepers with armed NATO forces on the ground, then this is an attack on Russia.
	This is an attack on Russia's interests, and we're going to respond.
	Obviously, and this is exactly what NATO wants.
	This is exactly what the people running our government want, and what the people in the White House want.
	They would rather send these troops to Ukraine to die to start World War III than they'd send them to our own border to secure our own country.
	And this comes right on the heels of just days ago.
	We covered it here on the base report.
	France and Germany telling their militaries, telling their health systems, be on high alert.
	We expect to be in a full-scale war with Russia all over Europe, not just in Eastern Europe, but a European-wide war with Russia in just a matter of months.
	And so now NATO is coming out and telling us, yeah, that's exactly where we're going.
	We're going to war with Russia, and we're going to use these guys as bait to get the United States in here and trigger World War III, a war that, by the way, would affect the U.S. homeland 100%.
	Don't let anyone, you know, fool you out there.
	America's not going to be immune from any of this.
	Now, moving on here, I went a little over time with that one, but moving on here in the aftermath of this Minneapolis mass shooting, this psycho tranny Robert Robin Westman, who murdered these Christian kids because he hated Christian kids, not because he hates Jews, not because he's an anti-Semite, but because he hates Christians.
	Now, this is actually the Trump White House, the Trump DOJ has some positivity coming out of this as they're they're raising the question hey, should trannies be allowed to own firearms in this country?
	So that's good news, but I don't want to burst anybody's bubble here or be a black pillar.
	But we need to be really, really careful with how we have this conversation because just days ago, in the immediate wake of this shooting, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, Republican politicians.
	They were out saying, hey, white males are responsible for these shootings.
	How can we stop white males from owning firearms in this country?
	What can we do to make it harder or impossible for white males to own guns?
	So now they've flipped it around on the trannies, but what we're having this whole discussion, we need to be very, very careful about how far we let this go, because this can very easily be spun into oh, you're a noticer, you're crazy, you don't get to own a gun.
	Oh, you're a white male, you're a threat to national that's exactly the whole point.
	That's exactly what they're going to do.
	And Project Ustar outlines that.
	Yep.
	This is just like these peacekeepers are bait.
	This is bait, so that white Americans will sign off on having their own gun rights taken away from them, their own second amendment shredded without due process.
	And one of the people that's going to do the shredding would be Tim Kane, U.S. Senator from Virginia, a total cuck.
	This guy's a disgrace.
	Of course, he's actually not from Virginia.
	He was just installed as governor and then senator from Virginia.
	He's in DC this week as they're back in session.
	And a video of him's already circulating online where he says that your rights do not emanate from God.
	They do not emanate from your creator.
	They emanate from government, they emanate from the laws that government sets.
	Tim Kane and his colleagues, they decide what you deserve, what your rights as a human being are.
	God has nothing to do with that.
	And if you think that your rights come from your creator, like the Constitution would tell you, like the Declaration of Independence tells you, if you think that, then you're an anti-Semitic Iranian theocrat who's at odds with the United States.
	This is Tim Kane, the clown, whose son, by the way, this guy raised an Antifa terrorist who was arrested in Minnesota, actually, uh, of all places.
	Ground zero.
	Yeah.
	Yep, exactly.
	Arrested in Minnesota, part of the color revolution, and he was there getting them warmed up.
	You know, we talked just after just recently after this shooting about Jacob Fry running that color revolution, and they had all these people on standby, ready to go.
	Tim Kane's son, Woody Kane, was one of the guys getting them warmed up.
	He was there in 2017 hanging around the state capitol attacking Trump supporters.
	So these people are deep in all of this.
	And anyways, Tim Kane says, if you think your rights come from God, you're a crazy Iranian anti-Semitic theocrat.
	Back to you, Stu.
	The based report.
	Soon to be an hour long on this network, virtually every day.
	It'll be five days a week.
	I think that's what your ambitions are, right?
	Is that what you want to do?
	You aspire to be here five days a week.
	That's a lot of work.
	Yeah, I'm fired up.
	I'm not sure.
	I know what it takes to actually be researching and committed to this.
	You're gonna be out in the streets, too, though, right?
	I mean, you're gonna be jumping out on our elected representatives.
	You're still gonna be functioning as you know, the top nigger here on the Stu Peters network and making sure that we're holding these so-called elected representatives accountable.
	And by that, what I mean is I don't mean that we're gonna put them before a tribunal, which a lot of them should be.
	But what I mean is that we're gonna show the American people exactly how corrupt this entire thing is, how captured and occupied our government actually is, because if they won't just come out and admit that, if they won't just come out and say that, Frankie Stocks, there he'll be lurking in some bush somewhere, hiding behind one of those demonic pillars and these buildings that are just like I mean, everywhere you go, you see like the satanic imagery.
	Have you noticed that in DC, by the way, the architecture there and all of the demons and the pedophilia?
	Like you see like little naked little boys like built out of masonry.
	Yeah, little angels, little boy angels that are like peeing out of fountains and stuff, like in front of the federal buildings.
	It's all once you like become, you know, aware of who these people are, you start looking at all the decorations through a much different lens, and it becomes, you know, pretty disturbing.
	Everything.
	I mean, the way that you look at a hospital or a clinic or a pharmacy, and when you walk into one of these targets or Walmarts and you see these people with the free COVID vaccine signs, like stuff that you would have never paid attention to before has just become it's just like so illuminated.
	All glory to God Almighty.
	We're shining a light into the darkness.
	Frankie Stocks is doing a lot of that.
	Make sure that you follow him over on X at Real Stocks.
	The base Report coming soon to the Stu Peter's Network, like within the next couple of weeks.
	This will be five days a week for an hour.
	Can you tolerate it?
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's like some days it'll sound like probably the black pill report, but we have to get this information out there.
	People have to understand this because omission is one of the greatest weapons that the enemy uses.
	Operating in the darkness.
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	You know, we hear these talking points coming out of the White House virtually every single day.
	About how President Trump is the most transparent president in all of human history.
	Members of the Trump White House are the most patriotic Americans to ever walk the face of the earth.
	They're destroying the deep state, they're destroying those who want to hurt our country.
	They tell us that Donald Trump has stopped seven wars and that he's completely cut off the flow at our southern border of these illegal invaders.
	Never mind the fact that we've attacked Iran.
	Never mind that we're arming Ukraine and that mass deportations never materialized.
	But the White House says that Donald Trump is making America great again.
	They're telling us that all of those campaign slogans are coming to fruition, even though when you look out at the real life landscape, you can see that that's all bullshit and none of it's happening.
	And you can also see that whatever's left of this MAGA movement is fracturing because Donald Trump can't stop worshiping the Jew.
	He can't stop taking orders from Miriam Adelson and Benjamin Netanyahu.
	He can't stop clowning around with big tech and big pharma and the military industrial complex.
	And worst of it all, he can't stop letting all of his pedophile buddies run rampant.
	He can't stop ridiculing the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and everyone else who cares about those victims or cares about the truth, including his own supporters, whom he's now turning against in defense of a bunch of fing pedophiles, including Jeffrey Epstein, his former best friend.
	Donald Trump is a total fraud.
	He's a cutout man.
	He's an actor playing a role.
	He was presented to the American people as some kind of a savior, but instead, he's the guy who's responsible for marching us into World War III and selling us out to Peter Thiel's Palantir.
	But we have no problem saying that on this show, and we're not going to censor ourselves.
	And we're not going to censor other people that want to talk about it.
	This isn't info wars.
	But speaking of info wars, just yesterday, the Alex Jones show had Tom Renz also on the war room, Owen Schreuer's old show, where Alex Jones was sitting in because Owen quit since Alex wouldn't stop censoring him.
	And now, of course, during this broadcast, Alex Jones took a number of jabs at Owen.
	He also did everything that he could to endorse every single thing that President Trump has ever done and pretend that Trump's riding in on some white horse to save America and save humanity.
	Even after everything that we've learned about this guy, everything that we have seen him do plainly in the wide open in broad daylight.
	And Tom Wren seems to share that opinion of Donald Trump.
	He says that Donald Trump, right alongside RFK Jr. is just fighting for the soul of America.
	Watch.
	Well, you're right, Alex.
	There's a ton going on.
	And I think the biggest news right now is the internal war that's going on within the mega GOP world.
	You know, we know what Bobby is.
	Bobby's a known quantity.
	He's been doing what he's been doing for 20 years.
	We know what he thinks about the MRNA vaccines.
	We know what he thinks about other vaccines.
	He's just got two established with track record.
	Now, here's the thing, though.
	A lot of people in the Maha movement have said, Bobby, what's taking so long?
	Why are you doing this?
	Why are you doing that?
	Why haven't we pulled all MRNA from the market?
	Why is it that HHS is still supporting MRNA development?
	Now, to be fair, Bobby is essentially pulled support from MRNA vaccines, but there is continued support for mRNA therapy developments for things like cancer and other such things.
	And I think it's really telling Alex because what's happening is this is a battle for the soul of America and the battle for our health in the future.
	On one side, you have, you know, the kind of desire to see technology and all sorts of things move forward, which Trump's always embraced, but he's done so wrongly because he's he's been misled.
	He's been lied to.
	In fact, we're just finding out Trump openly admitted that he's been lied to and misled.
	He says, why is Pfizer telling me one thing, but they won't they tell the they won't tell me that the stuff is.
	By the way, I should have opened the interview with that, but so much happens when he lays over it.
	Just 48 hours ago, on Monday morning, he comes out and says, Well, I thought it was the best thing ever, but now I learn they're hiding all the data, which you and I and others have known for years, and Kennedy is exposed.
	That alone is ultra massive, that it shows what we knew that he was being misled, and now Trump is starting to get ahead of that.
	This is very exciting.
	It's really just amazing, actually.
	It's like a high performance art watching two people just participate in these advanced mental gymnastics.
	And I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but the truth is Donald Trump and RFK Jr. have already sold the soul of America.
	In addition to everything that I've already said and a whole lot more, let's not lose sight of the fact that Donald Trump is the reason why your body was pumped full of a lipid nanoparticle, a patented weapon of biowarfare that turned you into a walking talking antenna.
	And RFK Jr., this is the guy who says that in a matter of just years, every man, woman, and child in this country will be walking around with a wearable medical device that'll track their biometric data and send it to God knows who for God knows what, so that all of your dreams and actions can be predicted and thwarted and tracked and monitored and controlled.
	They're helping to construct a surveillance state that will destroy this country.
	They're ushering in the technocratic antichrist agenda that Alex Jones claims to have been warning his audience of for decades.
	But of course, nobody wants to admit that.
	So every single time they just make excuses for Trump.
	How long do we have to hear these excuses?
	Are we really going to accept the fact that all of this can just be explained away by saying that Trump just didn't know any better?
	We've been hearing for the past decade that this is the greatest 6 million D chess player in all of human history.
	But somehow he's always getting duped, and people are always ending up dead.
	And after that, people just always make excuses for him.
	Now, Tom Renz is in the green room right now.
	We're not talking about him behind his back Here.
	And we're going to talk to him about all of this on the show because we're willing to talk to anyone about anything here on this program, and this is something that needs to be fleshed out.
	But first, we want to take a look at another clip, elaborating on what you've just heard there.
	I mean, I've been fighting this in every way I can.
	I've been, I've testified before legislative bodies, I've been in courts, I've been all over the place.
	I did free work, I did almost no paid work.
	I've done every kind of work you can do.
	I don't care whether anybody likes what I'm saying.
	The facts are the facts.
	Listen, the facts are this.
	Trump was lied to.
	He admitted that.
	Everybody admitted that.
	And we all see that he was lied to.
	Deborah Burks literally wrote it in her book that her job was to lie to Donald Trump every single day.
	So the guy was like.
	They've all said it.
	He was the guy they rated, uh, Balted admitted he would give him fake briefings.
	And I don't just believe Trump.
	I know they had COVID on the shelf.
	You have the documents years before.
	I know they were planning orb speed.
	They came to him and said, We'll never reopen, sir, but there is this plan.
	We it's not just how to believe Trump.
	We know how they set him up.
	We're not just defending him.
	We know.
	No, I'm not defending.
	Listen, I am not defending the fact that five years it's taken him five years to figure it out when I know guys that have briefed him.
	He should have had more sense than this.
	But then again, when your closest advisor is a pharma lobbyist, that's kind of an issue.
	When you when you're when your AG worked for pharma, that's kind of an issue.
	You know, not everybody around Trump is pushing truth.
	But despite he came out and said, Looks like I was con, we need an investigation.
	That is a sea change.
	100%.
	That's phenomenal.
	And if Trump sticks to that, and if Trump pushes that, this is the reason.
	You know, I've had a lot of people from the Maha Purist side say, Rems, how can you still back Trump?
	Because Trump is our best hope at fixing this.
	We don't have another option.
	There is no other option.
	If we don't get through to Trump, if Trump doesn't get out on this, it ain't gonna happen.
	Who else is gonna do this?
	With him, we would have the opposite on the other side.
	Exactly.
	You use the tools you've got.
	Yeah, listen, all I care about is whether my kids grow up in a safe country.
	That's all I care about.
	Yeah.
	You know, we can continue to play this game where we blame all of the people that are around Donald Trump because he's getting duped and he's getting lied to and he's getting tricked.
	But at some point, don't we have to reconcile the fact that Donald Trump is the so-called president of the United States and he's gonna have to take some personal agency here?
	Now I do got to give Tom some credit there.
	He did try to push back on Trump just a little bit in that clip, but every single time that he did that, every single time.
	Did you notice?
	Here comes Alex Jones to cut in and shut that down to steer things back into that pro-Trump direction as much as humanly possible, which unironically is the exact thing that Owen Schreuer accused him of doing.
	This guy just can't seem to help himself.
	He censors and shuts down any and all criticisms of Donald Trump.
	But this administration's continued involvement with big pharma and big tech and all of the other perverts who are feeding into this disgusting genocidal technocratic merger of government and medicine, if we can even call it medicine anymore, it's all on Trump's bloody hands.
	He's supposed to be the captain of a ship.
	And we can sit around all day long and say that he's moving away from the death jabs now, he's moving away from big pharma, but that's just not true.
	It's not happening.
	It was just over a week ago that he had Bill Gates at the White House where they talked about vaccines and Bill Gates' plans for world health.
	Bill Gates should be standing in front of a tribunal somewhere on trial for his life on charges of crimes against humanity.
	But instead, he's hanging out around Donald Trumpstein at the White House.
	And before that, after Trump won the 2024 election, Trump and Gates had a three-hour long dinner alongside Susie Wiles.
	Susie Wiles, the corporate lobbyist turned Trump chief of staff who's got pharmaceutical connections coming out of her fucking ass.
	It's not just the people around Trump that are knee deep in all of this.
	It's Trump himself.
	And he's not just knee deep.
	He's completely submerged.
	This is the guy that ran Operation Warp Speed.
	This is the guy that had Larry Ellison and Sam Altman at the White House, pledging them billions of dollars for MRNA and AI-driven medical treatment programs and cancer vaccines as soon as he took office in January.
	It was one of his first orders of business.
	His first order of business was making sure that the Jewish technocratic pharmaceutical AI overlords had their bags of cash.
	And now because he threw some red meat out there for his supporters and made some very obvious statements about his own vaccines and the CDC.
	We're supposed to believe that he's just done a complete 180 on all of this overnight.
	Are we just supposed to forget about all of this, just move on, put our faith in Trump and trust the plan?
	What did trusting the plan get us in 2020?
	A genocide.
	A bunch of people who've been permanently affected by a weapon of biological warfare.
	Just recently, we've had multiple guests on this show talking about VADES, also known as vaccine-induced AIDS.
	People are literally getting AIDS from this poison.
	The poison that President Trump and Anthony Fauci and Operation Warp Speed put on the market and that Trump still brags about.
	Actually, he was on Fox News with Sean Hannity bragging about it less than a month ago.
	On August 15th, to be exact, take a look.
	For years, we've been a laughing stock all over the world the way they took advantage advantage of us.
	Now, in my first term, I did it, but we get hit with COVID.
	We had the greatest economy in the history of our country in my first term, but at the end of it, we got hit with a thing called COVID.
	You may have heard of it.
	And it uh it you know decimated the world, the whole world.
	And we did a phenomenal job.
	Operation warp speed.
	A lot of people say it was one of the most incredible uh things they've ever seen.
	Operation warp speed, what we did, we did a great job.
	But this was a tremendous problem for everybody.
	I mean, every country, even China, in all fairness, they got hit much later.
	People thought they avoided it, they got hit very hard.
	Everybody got hit.
	Does that sound like someone who's admitting that he was wrong and that he was given bad information and that the things that he did and the operation that he led brought about the deaths of millions of people around the world, including right here in the United States?
	And that it's still leading to the deaths of people all around this country and will be for a very long time?
	No, of course it doesn't.
	So what is it?
	Is this guy just so unstable that two weeks ago he was saying that Operation Warp Speed is one of the greatest achievements in human history, and now suddenly he's changed his mind and gone back not just on what he said recently, but on what he's been saying now for over four years, that Operation Warp Speed and the COVID jabs were his crowning achievement?
	Or is he just talking to get his supporters to come crawling back to him?
	Probably the latter, obviously the latter, if you ask me.
	But Tom Rennes disagrees.
	For more discussion on all of this, he joins us now after I saw you on that appearance on InfoWars yesterday.
	Of course, you know I texted you, I called you right away.
	I had to have you on.
	I disagree with you, and I've laid out all of that.
	Uh, to that you say what?
	Well, I mean, I say this.
	First of all, I want to acknowledge that, yeah, all fair, I consider you a friend.
	Yeah.
	On air I love that we can actually uh debate about this because I do disagree with you.
	Uh, not entirely.
	I would say about 95% of what you said, I'm 100% line on.
	Uh Operation Warp Speed was a debacle.
	I've never wavered from that one bit.
	Uh, I think that ultimately Trump is the captain of the ship.
	So the buck stops there.
	I do think where I disagree with you, Stu, is this.
	I think that Trump has generally trying to mega, but I think he's out of his depth on a couple issues.
	He is not an expert and has never shown any inclination to having any understanding whatsoever on anything related to science or tech.
	And unfortunately, those two areas are the most profound risks to humanity that we're facing right now.
	Those two areas are disasters, and he's been surrounded by from the beginning crooks who have told him, you know, this and that and other.
	He has never properly been briefed.
	He's had people that have briefed him.
	But on one side, he's got people, people coming in who are being his chief of staff is a good thing.
	There's already so much to unpack there because we can stop.
	You know, for him being surrounded with all of these people, that was one of the main complaints of virtually his entire base through the Trump 45 administration.
	He's terrible.
	And that hasn't changed.
	That hasn't been corrected, and he's terrible or worse, very intentional with the people that he chooses to surround himself with continuously.
	Well, so I don't think that that gives him a pass.
	And as for the claim that he's not really in tune with medical or you know, artificial intelligence type information Or infrastructure.
	As I cited before you came on, this is the guy who invited the likes of Larry Ellison and Bill Gates and Sam Altman and Peter Teal into his orbit to unleash the greatest medical surveillance state known to man.
	But let me respond to that.
	What do you think that do you think that Larry Ellis went up there and said, hey, we're gonna bring AI in to take over humanity and destroy it?
	Or do you think he set up some set up some sort of a picture about the golden age that he's gonna usher in, where humans can work less and have more, where we've got you know wonderful opportunity for everybody to spend time doing things that they want?
	Listen, AI will end up being the death of humanity if we don't find a way to continue.
	The people who are responsible for building it admit that.
	Yes, 100%.
	You listen, no doubt about it.
	But do you think that you gotta you got a president?
	So how do I know that?
	And how do you know that?
	And the leader of the free world, the commander in chief, the most powerful man on the face of the planet, the man who has sway over more people, arguably, than anyone else that's living.
	How does he not know that?
	Well, I don't think that's hard to think of.
	Figure out.
	Listen, so you got you got a guy that's running all these different things.
	How to high-end high-end people who are running huge corporations, huge industry, huge this, huge ad, and there is no bigger company than the United States.
	Uh so when you're doing that, how do you go?
	Well, they have personnel, they have employees, they have advisors.
	So do I. But the buck stops with me.
	The box is not a good thing.
	If I have research done and it's presented to me by somebody that works for me, and I'm reciting that research, and then later I find that that research was bunk or that it's been disproven, or that it's phony, or that it's false, or that it's a lie, or that it's I immediately correct myself because that's what an upstanding man does.
	Right.
	And he has had five years now.
	Yeah, 100%.
	And for each of those five years, I will guarantee you, I would bet any amount of money you wanted to bet, Stu, that every single time he hears from a guy like me or you, and I've never briefed him.
	Uh, yeah, I've never had that opportunity, but I guarantee you, every time someone from our side briefs him, there are 50 people waiting in line from the other side to lie to him through their teeth.
	And so you've got on one side the most well-to-do, wealthy, air quotes, credible uh scientists on the planet who are paid to lie through their teeth to him.
	People who got more degrees on their wall than than uh books that I in my bookcase.
	Yeah, their job is to go in there and to lie to this guy.
	Now, ultimately, I agree with you.
	The buck stops there.
	So we can't let him off.
	And I will tell you if you I challenge you to find a spot where I've said, oh, it's okay.
	I don't mind that he's been wrong with this.
	I'm not saying that you said that, but it's very obvious that you're creating a buffer around Trump and you are making excuses for it.
	Let me tell you why.
	What other choice do we have other than to try and bring Trump into the fold to try and convince him what's going on to create enough pressure from our side that he's forced to look at this?
	And we've got a shot right now, and let me tell you why.
	Brute force.
	Nobody wants to talk about this.
	But here's where we are.
	Maha is the reason he won the election.
	And Maha is the reason he's got a majority.
	Between now and the midterms, we have an opportunity to try and try and get some stuff done.
	And if they don't, Maha's stay home.
	And if Maha stays home and the Democrats get the majority, our country is wiped, they're gonna impeach him.
	And then what do we got?
	What do we got then?
	It's gonna go, it could be worse.
	It's not good, but it could be worse.
	If they impeach President Trump, which I think that they're probably gonna move to do, or if they kill him, or if his health conditions deteriorate and the rumors are true that he's not long for this world, any of these things, then we get President Palantir.
	We get JD Vance, the guy that's literally owned by Peter Thiel, the guy that's even more compromised if you can fathom that more captured than Donald Trump.
	The idea of a Republican Democrat two-party system, though, and giving control to one party or the other, we're way beyond that.
	We don't operate in this two-party facade.
	This is a uniparty, they're being controlled by foreign interests, they're being controlled by big tech oligarchs, they're being controlled by people who have the stated goal to be the arbiters of life and death and rule over all of humanity and enslave or execute those who don't comply.
	This is a lot more serious of a situation than you know, the fake WWE version of politics that we've been presented with for the last, I don't know, six decades.
	Agree.
	Agree 100%.
	So, Stu, what you got to look at what I do.
	And I'm not gonna put all my cards on the table, but what I care about is our freedom and survival for our children for our future.
	Likewise.
	You and I both got kids.
	Right now, what options do we have other than to try and write the ship that we have?
	Well, there has to be a massive uprising by the American people that takes back control of their government and holds these blackmailed, sold-out compromised pedophiles pretending to run our country accountable, extreme accountability.
	These people need to be tried.
	And this current system of governance in this country, it has to be abolished and it has to be replaced with a form of government that is representative of the people.
	100% agree with you on each and every one of those things, but I can't get people to be able to do that.
	Do you agree with me that one of the people that needs to be held accountable is Donald Trump, and that another one of them is RFK, who's a proven liar, who has done a complete 180 on his anti-vax stance, who's now telling kids to go get MRNA MMR injections.
	Well, I don't know that he's told anybody to get MRNA vaccines.
	So the only way that we can get beyond the measles threat is if every child goes and gets the MMR vaccine, which is directly correlated to a spike in childhood oxygen.
	An appalling statement, an appalling statement.
	And I have no idea what the hell he was thinking there.
	I'm not going to justify it.
	I'm not going to support it.
	Well, what he's thinking there is that he has to obey his paymasters in the big pharma lobby.
	Well, I don't think his I think he has to obey his paymasters in terms of the chief of staff in the White House and uh, you know, the Republicans who want to impeach him.
	I'll be honest with you.
	I think Bobby's in a position where you know he's only got this much room to move.
	And if he moves beyond that, they're gonna impeach him.
	And then again, I disagree.
	Where do we know why I disagree?
	I do.
	It doesn't really have to do with the levers of power that he has control of as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
	Now, Dr. Judy Mykovitz, who also I consider just like you to be a dear friend of mine and somebody who I know to have been heroic throughout all of this nonsense, this murder that we saw.
	I mean, she's a hero.
	And she made excuses for RFK on this program and said RFK has not assumed the full powers that come along with the HHS sec office because he hasn't, you know, achieved the completion of his first fiscal year there or whatever.
	But you know what?
	Let's just pretend that that's true for a minute, which I think is a complete load of horse, and I don't believe it at all.
	But let's just say that that's true.
	Yeah.
	What RFK does have and what Donald Trump does have is a platform with a microphone and every television camera that they want to get in front of.
	And being the media Donald Trump has been for the last decade and before that, the opportunity presents itself on a second by second basis for him to jump in front of an international audience and tell them he has discovered that this is a patented weapon of biowarfare,
	that an unprecedented biological warfare, unrestricted act of warfare has been carried out against humanity, and that he is going to immediately initiate whatever powers that he has as the president of the United States and the commander-in-chief to round the people up that are responsible for this and hold them accountable.
	We're not going to have discussions about amnesty and this little cute sleight of hand bullshit that he does with Sean Hannity or when he sits down on the Fox News channel for some softball interview.
	No, no, no.
	We're talking about real accountability, and yes, he knows that.
	This was a DOD operation.
	You've talked about this on my program at Nazim.
	Yeah.
	He's the commander in chief.
	Are there DOD operations taking place that the commander-in-chief's not being briefed on?
	I can give you evidence.
	I can give you evidence.
	I but listen, yes, I do.
	I believe that one.
	For five years running and still running, it's running right now.
	He still doesn't know about this DOD operation.
	How do I know about it?
	How did I know about it before the shots even came out when they started talking about these shots?
	How did you do that?
	Why was every expert in this field on this show?
	And I, Stu Peters, a failed rapper and former bounty hunter who got a DWI and I'm apparently an uneducated nimbusile.
	How come I know all this?
	But the president of the United States doesn't.
	It's just, it doesn't compute, Tom.
	How does it how does the president of the United States not get briefed?
	That they tried to assassinate that Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin.
	How does he not get briefed that Ukraine bombed the Russian nuclear arsenal?
	How does he not get briefed on a lot of things?
	Listen, if there is you're looking at a guy who let's take what we're fighting.
	15 to 30 trillion dollars with a T changed hands during COVID.
	15 to 30 trillion.
	They can buy off anybody on the planet, except for guys like you and me with that.
	That's why you guys like you and me aren't allowed anywhere near this stuff.
	15 to 30 trillion.
	They can hire the best liars, they can hire the brightest liars, they can put anybody anywhere they want.
	And there is not anyone else on this planet that could have those kind of resources.
	We've got to quit underestimating the threat that we're fighting.
	These guys have.
	Do you think that the AI that were, I mean, Grok isn't the AI that's running the world?
	I mean, Aladdin we know has been out for 30 years.
	30 years.
	The military's had AI for probably 30 before that.
	Think how advanced some of the AI is right now.
	Well, yeah, I mean, these Jews are using it to slaughter innocent women and children in Gaza right now.
	They used Palantir and its derivative called Lavender to target innocent civilians, and then just claim that some member of Hamas was hiding out in the janitor's room at the middle school that they blew up, you know, or at some hospital.
	I haven't been following it, but that's awful.
	Here you have Donald Trump who's like rewarding these people.
	I've got it on the screen right now.
	This is from the White House, White House.gov, the Trump effect, the running list of all of our investments during President Trump's second term, this just came out August 15th, 2025.
	Look at this.
	Yeah.
	Nvidia, AI, Project Stargate, AI, Apple, 600 billion dollars.
	Who else is on this list?
	Oh, Johnson and Johnson, AstraZeneca, a combined.
	Not entirely.
	I would say about 95% of what you said, I'm 100% aligned on.
	Uh Operation Warp Speed was a debacle.
	I've never wavered from that one bit.
	Uh I think that ultimately Trump is the captain of the ship.
	So the buck stops there.
	I do think where I disagree with you, Stu, is this.
	I think that Trump is generally trying to mega, but I think he's out of his depth on a couple issues.
	He is not an expert and has never shown any inclination to having any understanding whatsoever on anything related to science or tech.
	And unfortunately, those two areas are the most profound risks to humanity that we're facing right now.
	Those two areas are disasters.
	And he's been surrounded by from the beginning crooks who have told him, you know, this and that and other.
	He has never properly been briefed.
	He's had people that have briefed him.
	But on one side, he's got people, people coming in who are being, yeah, his chief of staff is a very good thing.
	There's already so much to unpack there because we can stop.
	You know, for him being surrounded with all of these people, that was one of the main complaints of virtually his entire base through the Trump 45 administration.
	He's terrible.
	That hasn't changed.
	That hasn't been corrected, and he's terrible or worse, very intentional with the people that he chooses to surround himself with continuously.
	Well, so I don't think that that gives him a pass.
	And as for the claim that he's not really in tune with medical or you know, artificial intelligence type information or infrastructure, as I cited before you came on, this is the guy who invited the likes of Larry Ellison and Bill Gates and Sam Altman and Peter Thiel into his orbit to unleash the greatest medical surveillance state known to man.
	But let me respond to that.
	What do you think that do you think that Larry Ellis went up there and said, hey, we're gonna bring AI in to take over humanity and destroy it?
	Or do you think he set up some is set up some sort of a picture about the golden age that he's gonna usher in where humans can work less and have more, where we've got you know wonderful opportunity for everybody to spend time doing things that they want?
	Listen, AI will end up being the death of humanity if we don't find a way to continue.
	The people who are responsible for building it admit that.
	Yes, 100%.
	You listen, no doubt about it, but do you think that you gotta you got a president?
	So, how do I know that?
	And how do you know that?
	And the leader of the free world, the commander in chief, the most powerful man on the face of the planet, the man who has sway over more people, arguably, than anyone else that's living.
	How does he not know that?
	Well, I don't think that's hard to think of figure out.
	Listen, so you got you got a guy that's running all these different things.
	How to high-end high-end people who are running huge corporations, huge industry, huge this, huge that, and there is no bigger company than the United States.
	Uh so when you're doing that, how do you get a little bit of a little bit of a little personnel?
	They have employees.
	Listen, I know how much research you've done.
	I know how many people you've interviewed, how many people you've talked to, because I had to do the same thing.
	Trump isn't gonna do that.
	He just isn't, it's not gonna happen.
	He's gonna rely on his advisors.
	Some of them, and we know he's heard from people who share you and I's opinion, but he's heard from equally or more people whose job it is and who are the best of the people who are.
	Very early on, he was booed by a sea of people as an audience that was collectively there to watch him at one of his rallies, and it happened time and time again.
	The guy was like booed.
	And he's like, No, no, no, no, great accomplishment.
	Go get another booster.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	I'm listening I again, I don't disagree with you.
	But as he said in his tweet, I've seen the numbers from Pfizer.
	He's seen the numbers, he's seen the data.
	He's had his Susie Wiles and his people that are his friends who've told him, No, we've done it.
	Okay, so let's just say that's true.
	Let's just say that that's true.
	He's a big idiot.
	He got duped.
	You know, he's easily gullible.
	He's tricked on a daily basis for apparently five years.
	Okay, let's just say all that's true.
	Okay, which is disgraceful for a man.
	A man that's leading a country stand on it.
	Um, okay.
	So let's just say that that's the case, which is again disgraceful for a man that's leading the country.
	I've got huge questions about his intellectual capacity if he just continuously gets screwed over and lied to by the same genocidal maniacs and psychopath criminals on a daily basis.
	That makes him unfit to lead.
	Period.
	No question about it, no argument.
	That makes him unfit to lead.
	But when he did say that minute, I've seen Pfizer's data, what didn't he say?
	I'm immediately ordering the shots in this country to be seized and incinerated or seized and held for examination.
	I'm immediately moving to pull these shots.
	You think they showed him the truth?
	Do you really think that they would have told him the truth?
	I mean, these are people who are murdering children.
	Do you think they're not going to be able to do that?
	If they showed him enough to start talking about white fibrous clots, they showed him enough to start talking about, you know, there's a possibility that there's been some adverse events here related to these things.
	They showed him enough to know these are actively harming and killing Americans.
	Come on.
	Do you think that Pfizer gave him anything that showed anything other than their stuff as great and heroic?
	Do you really think that Pfizer is a good idea?
	I know what Pfizer shows me online, but I also know what else is easily accessible to me, and I can easily obtain the truth.
	I don't need to rely on Pfizer's data.
	So why not 20 minutes later, 24 hours later?
	Why not today has he said, Well, I originally got this data from Pfizer and I had some big concerns, but now after looking into it, because I have you know billions of dollars that gets ripped off from the American taxpayer to fund this governmental apparatus of ours that's supposedly doing the bidding of the American people and the government is here to help, and I'm riding in on this white horse.
	I know that you guys have trusted the plan.
	And so today we have collectively put put to good use all of those financial resources, those billions of dollars that get funneled into this fake occupied pedophilic, illegitimate government every day, and we've discovered, yeah, these are weapons of biowarfare.
	What takes this guy so fing long?
	It didn't take me long at all.
	Pfizer inundates people on television, online, on Google searches, in their you know, social media feeds every day with all kinds of different lies to promote this bioweapon.
	Yeah.
	But I somehow found out, and so have millions and millions of others, including the ones that in attendance at a Trump rally boo him repeatedly over and over again, and that's not enough to say, hold on, pump the brakes.
	Let's see what these people are talking about.
	Why are they so concerned?
	I want to direct everybody on my staff to see why am I being booed at a presidential campaign rally by my people who came here to support me.
	Yeah.
	The guy's either a idiot or he's complicit and he's a murderer.
	Which one is it?
	Well, I certainly don't think he's complicit.
	I think uh uh and we can question the wisdom of his movement emotions.
	Listen, let me answer this in two parts.
	Sure.
	So you So we got first.
	You've got you've got Wiles and the people around him controlling what he's hearing.
	So anytime he's hearing from us, you get three or four guys with new numerous PhDs come in and say, hey, uh, here's what's wrong with what they're saying.
	Here's why it's a conspiracy theory.
	Mr. President, you you saved millions of lives.
	You're a hero.
	Now, do you think that's easier to believe or hey, Mr. President, you've murdered you know millions.
	Your actions, you may not have known it, but ultimately you putting this out there was one of the biggest disasters in history.
	Which one's easier to believe?
	Of course he's going to believe the lie over that.
	Now, let me think of let's let's take this another step.
	Let's say let's say you and I agree to disagree.
	Um, and let's say, you know, regardless of what he knows or what he doesn't know, because this is where I sit on the whole thing.
	I don't care.
	I just care about what we do from here, right?
	I care about how do we get from here right now, Stu, you and I, everything you're talking about.
	So you're on the amnesty train, this guy just gets a pass, everybody responsible for this just gets a pass.
	I want to know how we stop what's happening though next, because at the end of the day, I just told you that.
	I just told you that.
	You immediately move to remove these vaccines from the supply, you quarantine them for examination, then you incinerate them, then you hold accountable the people that were responsible for releasing it, and as a joint, you know, um, kind of another tool that you could pull out.
	We're gonna cut off all ties to Israel.
	We're giving them no more money.
	I would love nothing more than Nuremberg 2.0 right now and to see people dangling from the news.
	A real Nuremberg, though, not the fake dog and pony show that we saw the first time around.
	We're talking about the people that are actually responsible for this.
	Yeah, Tony Fauci could swing after he was convicted by a tribunal and of course went through a very expedient but fair judicial process.
	But who are the people that are pulling the strings of Tony Fauci?
	He's the fall guy, he's the Vladimir Putin, he's the Mumar Gaddafi, he's the Bashar al-Assad.
	You know, he's the Adolf Hitler, he's the bad guy that the media tells us about.
	There's a lot of people over there on Rothschild Boulevard that need to swing as well.
	Uh agreed, 100%.
	The question that I have, and the thing that I think is most important, more than anything, is we need justice, we need accountability.
	But before that, we need to stop what's happening.
	What you said at the beginning of this show is all I care about right now.
	Once we stop the AI takeover of the universe, once we stop the continued murder, then we can come back on justice.
	But if we don't do so, if we don't stop this, and he has the opportunity to stop it right now.
	He has the opportunity.
	Yes, Trump needs to do it.
	He's the president.
	I understand it.
	So we've got to get him on board.
	We can't, because there is no one else.
	You can't force a guy who has sold his soul and decided to be allow himself to be compromised.
	Should we just give up?
	Should we just call it a day?
	No, absolutely not.
	Now is not the time to give up.
	But now is also not the time to just say, well, Trump is our only hope.
	No, we are the only hope, but we have to be loud enough.
	We have to do enough that we get that we force action.
	Listen, Trump is Trump has one thing Trump has always been is responsive to the mob.
	If we got enough of us that are loud enough and fighting hard enough, that's why I'm here.
	That's why I do my show every day.
	That's why I keep fighting.
	We've got to get we the people.
	Listen, I've been through the courts.
	They're they're awful.
	They're they're corrupt.
	At best on many cases.
	They're the Noah Hyde courts of justice.
	In many cases, corruption is an understatement.
	Some of the stuff I've seen is appalling.
	Uh, I've been through, I've been, I was just in DC.
	I was just there.
	It made me want to throw up every minute because the the corruption is so monumental.
	I've been through every single thing you can be on this.
	Ultimately, if we the people don't wake up and demand change, we aren't going to get anywhere.
	And listen, right now, whether you like Trump or don't like Trump, he is the best hope we have.
	It may not be a great hope, it may not be perfect.
	There may be a long list of reasons to question.
	But at the end of the day, we don't have a whole lot better.
	If Trump gets impeached, it ain't gonna get better.
	If we lose the midterms, it ain't gonna get better.
	If we don't get some of these things to change, if we don't get a chance to elections are fake, and and so are the actors that are playing their role as leaders.
	I mean, these people have been conditioned, they have been groomed.
	This is a Vince McMahon, WWE style presentation on a grand scale.
	The very same people that are responsible for selecting their actors are also responsible for controlling the information that everybody receives throughout the purchase of the media, the American indoctrination and brainwashing MK ultra mind programming that's done every time somebody turns on their TV or watches a Netflix thing.
	Sure.
	I'm going to give you a big piece of evidence to support your argument.
	Because Stu, you know I'm intellectually honest.
	Uh you may not, I may not get the same conclusion as you, but we we we're looking at evidence.
	Okay.
	Here you go.
	Trump's order on uh gain of function, his executive order.
	Do you know that that executive order, if you read the text of it, Trump was doing what he was doing on there.
	The text of that order actually the result will be the gain of function has been moved to U.S. you to the U.S. shores, and we're actually sanctioning it because he's asked to regulate it.
	Well, once it's regulated, it's not banned.
	He didn't ban it, he regulated it, which is in a sense essentially sanctioning it.
	Now listen, I have no problem calling out the bad stuff.
	I want one thing.
	I want to stop what what appears to be an inevitable future.
	I don't think that we're going to be able to do that unless we can get a guy like Trump a little bit closer to being on board with us.
	I don't think we're going to be able to do that unless we the people can continue can coalesce around some ideals and stand and fight forward.
	We aren't going to do that unless we kind of unify on a few things and then come together and push for our leaders, including Trump, because like I said, the one thing Trump has been is responsive to the mob.
	If we're loud enough, he's always been somewhat responsive.
	I don't think we've been loud enough.
	Are you at all open to the idea that Trump absolutely has known, does know, and will always know exactly what he's done?
	Are you open to the idea that you have been duped?
	I listen, I can't prove that I wasn't.
	I'm giving you my my interpretation of the evidence as I see it, and maybe I'm wrong.
	I've never said I'm the best or brightest on the planet.
	I'm some lawyer from Ohio.
	What I will tell you though is if that's the case, man, we're screwed.
	And what are we going to do then?
	Let's say, let's say you're right.
	Let's say I'm duped.
	Let's say that Trump is anti-Christ or whatever you want to say about him.
	Where does that leave us?
	Well, I don't think the antichrist, to be clear, my position on that is I don't think that it's one person or one entity or one being.
	I think that there is the antichrist spirit.
	And it's certainly prevalent here in the United States because I watch people like Alex Jones just do somersaults and mental gymnastics to flip themselves over a barrel and end up in some position that's on their knees giving some kind of fallacious Trump every opportunity that presents itself.
	And you could argue that that's what I'm doing here for you.
	I'm just going to tell you that right now we got one guy we can work with to have a shot at changing things.
	And I think we're better off working with him than just throwing rocks.
	Because if we throw rocks, we aren't going to get anywhere.
	Uh, if we if we take some time and some effort and we recognize the good things and push back on the bad things, my hope is that we'll be able to get somewhere.
	Maybe I'm naive, but I'm going to tell you that I support what you're doing.
	I support your position.
	I support we need guys like you that are pushing hard the way you're pushing.
	I don't know whether your way ends up being the right way or my way ends up being the right way.
	What I know is that anybody on team freedom, I'm not going to infight with you.
	I support what you're doing.
	I support what I'm doing.
	I support what Alex Jones is doing, because I don't care how we get to freedom, and I don't know which one of us ends up right.
	All I care, when I look over here on my wall, I got two pictures of my kids as babies.
	That's all I care about.
	And how listen, I'm doing the best I can to fight to get our country there in the best way I know how.
	Maybe I'm 100% wrong.
	Maybe I'm completely duped.
	Maybe I'm fooled on all of this.
	I've thought about that a lot.
	I don't know.
	What I will tell you though is if that if that's the case, we're in a real bad spot because if Trump is truly, if he were ever to be truly sold out, and there was No way to bring him back.
	We're in trouble because you, Stu, you've done your homework on this.
	You know that in about two years, the AI situation is going to be so crazy that we're really going to be pretty much beyond any hope of fixing it.
	And in five years, we won't recognize the world we live in.
	When I was in DC, I just spent some time with some of these psychopaths down there.
	You know what they're talking about?
	Do you know what they're selling the president and Bobby?
	They're selling him that they're going to take your DNA, they're going to create a digital doppelganger of you.
	They're going to read your DNA from beginning to end.
	They're going to create a digital doppelganger of you.
	And then they're going to be able to use AI to test drugs on that digital doppelganger.
	And they're saying that it'll be so exact that they can test these drugs on you and know how they're going to work.
	And they can create personalized drugs for you in 48 hours.
	That's how the case is.
	I know what's coming.
	And you're right.
	I have researched it.
	And you know what?
	I also see who's funding it, and I also see where it's coming from.
	And all of the funding for all of those projects and all of that digital and virtual and medical and financial imprisonment or extermination is coming at the hands of President Trump, who is taking these dollars from American taxpayers and funneling it openly right into the pockets of the enemies of humanity.
	The enemies of those little grandbabies that you said that you're looking at on the wall there.
	He's funding the people who want to kill them or rape them or f them or poison them and leave them dead and forget about it.
	I'm praying to God that he's doing it without knowledge, because if it's intentional, I don't see a way forward.
	Either way is bad and makes him unfit to lead.
	Well, it may make him unfit to lead.
	Listen, in company, fit to lead, but at least you can correct incompetence with knowledge.
	He's had 10 years to do that.
	There hasn't been like one critical campaign promise that's come to fruition from you know just wedge issues and this arbitrary nonsense that the media likes to throw into play, like lock her up, referring to Hillary Clinton.
	Yeah, she should be locked up, of course.
	So should all the people that pull her strings.
	So should all of the people that work alongside of her.
	And that's a large network, by the way.
	One of them, by the way, is Jeffrey Epstein.
	And all of the others, if we're going to believe that he's the only child sex trafficking pedophile, you know, that's running capture operations on our government and blackmail operations on CEOs and banking executives, private equity firm CEOs.
	No, no, no.
	There are a lot of those people, and these children are being trafficked all over the place.
	You know, I mean, so there's a lot of issues here.
	But the one that I wanted to dissect with you, obviously was this COVID nonsense.
	And I see where the conversation's heading, Tom.
	I see you on, you know, InfoWars saying this is our only hope.
	This is our only hope.
	No, it's not.
	No, it's not our only hope.
	How do we get there?
	What do we do, Stu?
	Because I mean, listen, if you've got a better plan that I'm in, I just don't see it.
	I don't see a path forward.
	Well, you just look at where the compromised.
	You look at where the operation originates, okay?
	And it originates in Israel.
	And we have this very significant, very obvious overrepresentation of Jewish individuals in the cabinet.
	Howard Lutnik, who stands behind President Trump everywhere that he goes and smirks and smiles when he talks about Operation Warp Speed and Palantir and the AI super surveillance state and how Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat hoax.
	That guy made everybody in Trump's cabinet go through this Israeli loyalty test before they were allowed to become nominated, even or much less appointed.
	And that's a big problem.
	There is a lot of money.
	There's a lot of greasing the wheels.
	There is an unregistered Wafera APAC that's allowed like no other to do its bidding in Washington, D.C. and to compromise and to capture and to occupy our government and our society and all of its bureaucracies.
	And entrenched in all of that is the big pharma executives and all of the money that comes forward to produce these AI technology vaccines and MRNA and super surveillance and medical devices.
	So if you cut off all ties monetarily, physically, militarily, if you cut off the Israeli relationship with the United States, everything else works itself out.
	Everything else starts to really work itself out because when you trace all of this back, it all comes back to Rothschild Boulevard and Tel Aviv.
	It all comes back to the likes of Pfizer and Moderna and BlackRock and Blackstone and Vanguard and the Carlisle Group and State Street and all of Their Jewish CEOs who have the state of stated objective to rule over all of humanity and to be the arbiters of life and death.
	And they feel that it's a spiritual uh kind of endeavor that they're on because they will tell you that they were chosen by God to do that.
	So I think Jesus Christ is really our only hope, not Donald Trump.
	I would agree.
	And to compare him as, you know, an only hope thing.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	That's way off the mark.
	You've lost the plot if you're putting all of your hope in a man, especially a man who, you know, objectively is obviously implicated some way in these Epstein files and a whole lot of other things that we could talk about.
	No, no, no.
	Our hope needs to be in Jesus Christ first.
	And then there are specific ideas that we can table to start dealing with these things.
	The problem is when I want to table ideas, nobody wants to hear them, which is why I was labeled by NBC News a dangerous individual and I was cast from Meta.
	It's why I was kicked off of YouTube.
	It's why Rumble suppresses me and Howard Lutnick, uh, coincidentally, just happens to be one of the top investors in Rumble.
	And then you look a little deeper, and the deputy director of the FBI, Dan Bongino has over a hundred million dollars worth of operating shares at Rumble, which to me presents somewhat of a conflict of interest.
	This is the same guy who sat down before his confirmation and said, What are you most passionate about?
	What is it, Dan Bongino that you're most passionate about?
	And it wasn't child sex trafficking or holding criminals accountable.
	It was protecting Israel.
	So I think that that's a really big concern.
	And that when you address that, a lot of these other things kind of become more clear about who the culprit is and where the blackmail and the bribing and the compromising actually happens.
	And the source of all of it, objectively, is right there.
	Listen, so I agree with you 100% that Christ is ultimately my savior, right?
	So don't misunderstand me talking about from a practical and political perspective that the best shot we got at turning things around is is Trump.
	At the end of the day, we know how this book is written and we read the ending, right?
	So we know what's going to happen.
	We know about the tribulation, we know about the issues, and we know where it all ends, right?
	The question is how do we get there and practically how do we keep things as positive as we can as we go through that?
	Well, it's going to be uncomfortable.
	So being positive is kind of this like rainbow-esque picture that a lot of you know, a lot of people remain willfully ignorant.
	I mean, is as few people dying and sick and and and you know, going through atrocities as possible.
	I think you just have to rip the band-aid off.
	You know, and I think that if Donald Trump were to be this beacon of hope politically speaking, that he would rip the band-aid off.
	He knows more than you know, this little act that he's playing on TV, this this act of you know ignorance or I was duped or lied to.
	He knows a lot more than that.
	And I'm not willing to accept any justification for his lack of knowledge as credible.
	It's just not, it's just not credible.
	It's disingenuous, it's easy, it's a scape code, it's a cope.
	And there's a lot of people that are coping right now, a lot of mega enthusiasts, a lot of Maha people, they're coping right now.
	And I understand that because they put all of their hope into Donald Trump and they see the desperation, you know, of their family members and the people that they love, know and care about, and they see the critical pinnacle that we've reached here as a country that's on the brink of going dark, and when it does, my opinion that it'll be the darkest country that the world has ever seen.
	We're right there.
	But like you, I wouldn't be here fighting every day if I didn't think that this was resolvable, if I didn't think that we could see victory and an immense victory, which I believe is coming very quickly, and I think that we're going to see it in our lifetimes.
	I pray to God that it happens every day because I don't want to leave my kids to fight this fight.
	No.
	No.
	And they're actively the main targets of all of this right now.
	Can we agree, Stu, that listen, at the end of the day, you and I got the same goals.
	We're just kind of looking at how to get there differently.
	Well, I mean, from what I've heard you say over time, yes, I think that we share a lot of similar goals.
	Yeah.
	Uh I think though, that ripping the band-aid off is very important and that Trump needs to do that.
	I hope, and but here's the thing.
	I agree with you.
	But Trump needs to do that.
	How do we get Trump to do that?
	Because I don't know who else can rip the band-aid off.
	That's the problem, Stu.
	No matter what we do, we come back to there's one guy who's got the ability to rip this band-aid.
	There's one guy who's got the opportunity to now listen, Christmas.
	I'm not going to hold my breath.
	This guy is surrounded by where did Tom go?
	Is he still here?
	Yeah.
	This guy is so this guy is surrounded by the people who are responsible for pushing all of this.
	Well, you know, Pam Bondi is a perfect example.
	She's the attorney general in Florida at the time where in Palm Beach County, Florida, Jeffrey Epstein is running this capture operation, blackmail compromising high-ranking government officials and parading and procuring, you know, underage girls around so that these sick perverts can have sex with them.
	I mean, I've talked to the city.
	She didn't investigate him because she would have fed around and got all of her associates and her friends arrested.
	That's the same reason why they're not going to investigate COVID with her as the attorney general of the United States.
	Not genuinely and truthfully, they won't.
	She represents all of her associates and everybody in Trump's orbit would be going to prison or hanging or stepping up into the gallows.
	I mean, she literally obviously surrounded by criminals.
	She represented Pfizer.
	I've talked about this on my show.
	I agree with you.
	I 100%.
	Listen, the people around Trump, why is it that Matt Gates got excoriated the second they mentioned him as AG, Pam Bondy sailed through with absolutely no opposition?
	Why?
	Well, I mean, I wonder, right?
	So I agree with you, but this comes, we go back to what's going on.
	Matt Gates seems to be pretty based on Israel, too.
	I mean, he says that as a congressperson, he was noticing all of that.
	A lot of his colleagues have a little eight-pack guy, you know, and they have to call them before they're allowed to vote on anything.
	A lot of them don't even read the legislation.
	They don't read these 10,000, 12,000 page bills because they just get told by their handler, by their payment, how it is that they're going to vote on these things at the behest of Israel and in this foreign nation state's best interests.
	Well, I will tell you that I can even on the state level.
	I mean, I know you know I have to deal with a lot of politicians, and there's no question about this.
	It's a it's just a known thing that that listen, you got handlers and and the handlers, big pharma, big this, big whoever it is, right?
	And I haven't, yeah, I know that you and Mike Adams have both done a pretty deep dive on the Israel connection.
	I haven't done that, so I really don't feel competent to well it's glaringly obvious.
	It doesn't take much digging.
	I just haven't done it.
	I've been I've kind of stayed to my Maha space just because that's where I'm what I know.
	But uh, but I will tell you this.
	Um whatever it is, these guys always have handlers.
	Always.
	And there's always someone telling them how they're gonna vote.
	And it comes.
	And you don't see that as a problem.
	Oh, I think it's repulsive.
	I think it's disgusting.
	I think the I think that I've got to be honest with you, there's probably five to ten elected people that I know and that that I think actually, you know, are decent.
	And that's probably nationwide.
	I mean, there's just there's so few decent people elected anywhere.
	Uh and a lot of these people were probably well intended when they said, you know what?
	That's an issue that I want to address because I find that to drive me, that's a passion of mine.
	I don't want to see kids getting in their school bathrooms and then parents getting arrested because they protest against a school or a government that would allow such a thing by some mentally ill tranny that walks into a you know a little girl's bathroom.
	Um, and then they go there and then they get these handlers and they get the soul sucked right out of them because they sell themselves dirt cheap to the highest bidder.
	You know brownstoning, you know it's real.
	I mean, you listen.
	The how many the here's the question.
	It's not whether it happens, it's how prevalent is it?
	And for anybody in your audience, I'm guessing you've probably talked about it, Stu, brownstoning.
	You go out for dinner, you so you go to Congress, you go to wherever, you're an idealist, you're ready to fight, you go out for dinner, you wake up the next morning with no recollection of anything, but a couple pictures on the pillow next to you of you with a hooker or you with an underage person, or you with whatever, and a little note that says we own you now.
	It happens like this is a known thing.
	The question is, how often does it happen?
	How does this happen?
	You know, I mean, some of these guys get bought off in the traditional sense.
	I'm willing to guess every single time.
	Listen, from what I've been told, and I can't prove this.
	This is this is he said she said, but I got a number of intel guys that I've talked to, a number, you know, the the retired this, retired that.
	And from what I hear, even on the state level, the brownstoning thing has become very, very, very prevalent.
	That's what Epstein was.
	And I will tell you right now, I have absolutely but look Trump's approach on the Epstein thing Is a debacle in my opinion.
	I've spoken a lot against it's absurd.
	The idea that we're supposed to believe after 20 plus years of everybody on the planet knowing that this guy's running a sex trafficking blackmail ring, we're suddenly supposed to believe it's a Democrat.
	Listen, I can get behind the fact that did Biden and the Democrats screw with the data?
	Sure, they did, of course.
	Well, what they wouldn't do that?
	That I can get behind.
	But the idea that we're suddenly supposed to get forget or ignore one of the biggest national security threats on the planet.
	And this has been my big beef with this.
	The whole Epstein thing, it's not it's bad enough that we have child sex trafficking.
	But when you consider the fact that this guy's target were the rich, the elite, the powerful, the politically connected.
	How many people with security, top secret national security clearance, have been blackmailed and brownston?
	How many people that have top secret clearance are on the Epstein list?
	And how many of those people are still being raped today?
	Today, 100% uh not uh rape, uh blackmailed today.
	That listen, the blackmail didn't stop just because Epstein's dead.
	They just whoever was buying that data from him, which is probably a bunch of our allies and a bunch of other people.
	Uh whoever was doing it, they're still blackmailing.
	There's no question about that.
	It is to me one of the greatest national security risks we're facing.
	And I will tell you, I am uh I just saw uh someone I think I just posted, because you see these guys who are literally, I mean, they're like Trump cultists, and I support Trump.
	I do.
	I know that that's you know, that grinds people, but I support Trump.
	I think I believe Trump is still trying to do right.
	That's my opinion.
	I will not join the Trump cult, and I will, but I'll see these cultists.
	How can you how can you question Trump?
	Uh it's a Democrat hoax.
	It's not a Democrat hoax.
	Look at the evidence.
	Just like you're saying to me, Stu.
	I know you're saying I know, I I know where it's coming.
	Uh, you know, look at the evidence, friends.
	I know where you're going with it.
	But like I said, I think there's enough qu evidence that that Trump is ignorant to what's going on on a couple of these issues that I'm willing to give him a pass because I don't, I that doesn't mean no accountability, doesn't mean that he doesn't owe some some some penance on it.
	But I don't think that I can, I don't have evidence to prove that he knew, and I have evidence to show that he might not know.
	All right.
	Well, I I went the whole hour with you.
	I gotta go to break, but I I did want to give you the opportunity to express that.
	Uh I tried not to interrupt you there at the end, especially.
	I've got a lot to say about it.
	I saw, I saw.
	Thank you, Stu.
	I appreciate it.
	You know, and no, I because I don't want to be an ungracious host.
	You know, I do want to let you air your chest and get everything off your nine.
	You're a good dude, and we don't have to agree on everything to agree that we got to fight for our kids, fight for our freedom, fight for our future.
	And maybe I'm doing it differently than you.
	But brother, I don't care if you get there before me.
	I just want one of us to get there.
	And I pray to God, whether it's you or me or anybody else on Team Freedom, I just pray that we get there.
	I don't care how we do it.
	Our kids deserve a future.
	And I hope everybody in this audience, you know, because I'm sure your audience is gonna be gonna rip me a new one.
	Oh, Rams is just a Trump apologist.
	Listen, maybe.
	But as long as you guys are still fighting, as long as you're still pushing for freedom, God bless you, and good luck.
	And if you get there before me, and if we can get the people to stand up and do it, by all means.
	All right.
	Uh, where can people interact more with Tom Rens?
	Where do you want to direct people to go to interact with you, to ask you questions, to leave you scathing comments, whatever they wish to do, and watch the Tom Rennes show?
	Where is that at?
	Well, we run the Tom Rennes show on Twitter and on Rumble and uh and a bunch of other places.
	You can find Tom Rems.com.
	Uh, but you know, if you want if you want to yell at me, we're on all social media, Instagram, Rumble, uh, uh, Twitter, I mean, we're everywhere.
	Uh, and feel free, you can yell at me.
	You can you can disagree with me.
	I don't care one bit.
	I'm I listen, I'm gonna do the best I can do to do what I've done for five years, and I'm gonna keep doing it until we're free or until God says I don't have to fight anymore.
	Either way, uh, we're gonna keep it.
	I gotta get it, I gotta get out of here.
	Uh, will you look at the Israel thing though?
	I'll dig, I'll start digging in.
	Uh you won't have to dig far, I promise you.
	We you will not have to dig far.
	That is something that anybody can see without a microscope.
	Uh, that is something that's really right on the surface for everyone.
	And all of The things that we talk about and everything that I talked about with Tom, all of that stuff, inconveniently, it's all connected.
	It all comes back to the tribe.
	We'll be right back.
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	j is J-Proof is you proof Music J Proof is J Proof.
	Take over to JProof.ai right now.
	You can get all of the information on everything JProof.
	Matt Wallace on X just last night started tweeting about this because now it is news.
	It's news that everybody has remained completely quiet about a remedy and a solution for our movement and for our mission and for our army.
	And that all of the naysayers and everybody saying that Stu Peters is a scammer, Stu Peters is a rug polar.
	No, I will never Jew my people.
	Which is exactly why, after a surge to 200 million dollars market cap value, JProof found its legitimate and authentic floor amongst its real holders, real warriors, a real army of based as hell based.
	Warriors.
	Yeah, we'll take it.
	Go to JProof.ai or don't be a Jew.com for more information on everything J Proof.
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	They're like our children.
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