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April 4, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report: Paul Harrell Program Interviews Tesla Owner During Terrorism THREAT
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Alright folks, welcome to the show.
Welcome to a special edition of the Paul Harrell program.
We really appreciate you being with us, as always.
We've got a special...
Basically, we've been covering this kind of all week.
Tesla terrorism.
We've got all these leftists, some of them NPCs.
Non-playable characters that are being brainwashed to go out, but I think others are being paid to be there.
So it's the same George Soros, or at least that's the allegation that George Soros or people like Soros fund these radical leftists, you know, to go out and protest George Floyd.
Or now it's the new thing to hate, which they're being directed to hate Elon Musk and Tesla.
And it is incredible.
So, interestingly enough, we've interviewed, and every time we do one of these things, it's crazy.
We've interviewed Jacob Holloway, who is himself a Tesla owner.
And so I was I was I guess over the weekend I got a text from Jacob and he said he was like Basically, I'm a marked man.
Like I'm driving around in a Tesla, you know, he's based out of Atlanta and You know, all these people are essentially basically he's in danger potential danger just from owning a Tesla and so I wanted to interview an actual Tesla owner, find out the psychological turmoil that's going on right now with the potential threats of violence, and Jacob is back with us.
Jacob. It's great to be here again, Paul.
And certainly, you know, really nice to come and talk about this because I've mentioned before, I think, in one of the shows that I owned an electric vehicle and I am indeed a Tesla owner for about three years now.
And I love my Tesla.
I really enjoy my car, drive it every day.
All the time between here and Atlanta, no problems.
And really, it's one of the nicest things I own, is this car.
And I've been in it at least once, and it's like a toy to me.
I mean, it's like a grown-up's toy.
They are incredible pieces.
And I'm not an EV person, per se, but you're right.
You mentioned that you had an EV when we did the series on Agri electric tractors.
And what a joke that whole scam that that whole thing was.
Correct. And unlike this, I think… I certainly am a critic of the electric vehicle industry.
Um, you know, certainly I'm not one of those people that think that electric cars are going to replace, uh, gas cars anytime soon.
Um, I certainly didn't buy my car because of climate change or anything like that.
I actually just thought it was a cool vehicle.
Um, and you know, my feeling is Teslas are, um, You know, they're an elite luxury vehicle for people who want the kind of features that it has in it.
And I like to kind of talk about why I bought my car and what I like about it and what I've done with it.
And then maybe we can kind of tie that into what's going on because I recently, you know, so over the weekend, you know, I went, I woke up, I was in Atlanta and I went to the Tesla charging station.
And I go up there in the morning.
I like to go up there in my mornings and have a cup of coffee while I'm charging my car.
And I like to read the news.
And that's just like a little ritual I have.
You know, it's kind of like my morning zen.
It's like charge my car, coffee, news.
And so I'm sitting there.
By the way, what does it take to charge?
My dad was asking me the other day.
I don't really know.
So if you go on a road trip, You never want to run it all the way down, and you never want to charge it all the way up.
I get that question all the time.
People walk up to me and say, how long does it take to charge this car?
And the short answer is, it depends.
How far do you want to go, and what are you charging it on?
I could charge it on a wall socket, and I have a cord for that, but that would take – it would take days and days, maybe five days from if it was zero all the way to 100%.
I could just have it plugged in all day, all night.
I don't That car is never going to be on that for more than an hour.
Oh, really?
That's like if you're charging it from all the way low to all the way high.
Like, it would be an hour.
Normally, most trips and where I'm going, even on those transcontinental trips, I never charge more than 45 minutes.
Most of the time, 30 minutes max to continue on my trip.
Of course, that adds some extra time, but You know, I'm one of the luckiest Tesla drivers in America.
I don't actually pay to charge on the supercharging network, which I think, you know, I may have mentioned before, but that was grandfathered over in the car that I own.
Oh, wow.
And most Tesla owners don't have that.
So the other question I get is how much does it cost to charge?
I have actually no idea, because I'm lucky enough to own one of the Teslas that were grandfathered into free supercharging.
So it's like, well, it was a real deal, actually, for me to buy my car.
It's a funny story.
Other people have to pay.
Other people have to pay, but I actually drive for free.
You were saying, what's the funny story?
Well, I bought it at a Honda dealership.
It was used in Atlanta.
It had these 22-inch rims on it.
It's a Model X. I was going to buy another Honda, actually, because my last car was a Honda.
I like Japanese vehicles.
They're designed well.
Toyotas and Hondas are notoriously great vehicles.
But they had like a Tesla there and I took it for a look.
It was a Model X and I was like, man, you know, I really want to get an SUV.
Maybe I took a couple test drives on it.
The Honda dealership people had no idea what they had.
I don't know what that guy traded it in for, for a Honda, but like they had no idea what they had.
They had no idea it had all these features on it and everything that I would get grandfathered over to me.
They, they, I really got a great deal for my car.
I'm not going to say what I paid for it, but I just, I've just got a really great deal for it, and I've just been one of the luckiest drivers out there on the road.
Well, let me ask you this, and I talked about this earlier in the week, because we've already kind of covered some of this stuff, you know, the Tesla terrorism and everything else, but like, when you first got the car, and I'm no EV fan, people around here, you know, if you're on the center-right spectrum,
which I now know you are, but I would imagine a lot of folks on the right, Yeah, so that's funny because when I first bought the car, I just thought it was a cool car, and I didn't care about all the climate change stuff.
I was getting mixed reactions.
People either thought it was really cool or they thought it was hilarious.
So, again, reiterate that.
You didn't buy it because of climate change.
I didn't buy it because of climate change.
You just bought it because it's cool.
I thought it was a cool car, yeah.
It's got those doors that go up and down, like those X-Wing gold doors, and it does this cool little dance thing.
This is one of the features of the Model X. Or at least the older Model X as it does this merry Model Xmas show.
And this is your model?
Yeah, this is my model.
This really brings joy to the hood when you pull this out.
Joy to the hood, man!
When the kids see this, it really inspires the kids.
That's what I bought this thing for.
I think it's a very inspirational vehicle, you know, and it inspires me in my own way.
Yeah, I forgot, the DeLorean.
It's got a very DeLorean.
Do they all have the doors that like do that?
Just the X. Just the model X. That's crazy, man.
Yeah, and those doors, they got sensors on them and stuff.
You'd think they would hit things, but they don't.
Yeah. That's crazy.
I just say this show's not brought to you by Tesla.
Yeah, I know.
They should sponsor you after this, right?
Attention Elon Musk.
Um, anyway, the thing is with this car and when I bought it is that all my conservative friends and people see it and like, they'd be like, oh, you bought a Tesla and you know, oh, you're like liberal environmentalist Joe Biden.
You know, everybody thinks you voted for Joe Biden if you're driving a Tesla.
The first time.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Biden was still president and I was like, damn, you know, so I like, I wanted to put like a Trump sticker on my car and then I got like a, I got like a, um, one of those, uh, shades, one of those window shades for my car and it says diesel life on it.
So I put that on there, like, troll the Tesla drivers.
Okay. You know, to save diesel life, because, you know, that's like those truck drivers and stuff.
Right. They're like diesel mechanics.
Right. I'm just trolling, right?
You know, I'm having a good time.
But, you know, you get out and you go and charge your car, and these, uh, You know, you talk to other Tesla drivers, right?
And that's how you learn a lot about these cars.
Not on the Tesla forums, but actually just sitting around the chargers and talking to the other drivers.
You really learn a lot about your car and Tesla services and stuff and the things that they need and how long they go.
I mean, and so that's kind of a place to trade information.
But several times I'd go, I'd be at the Tesla charger and I'd hate talking to the Tesla owners because it'd all be some like environmentalist And they'd be like, oh, you know, the climate change and how good it is for the climate.
Well, you know, South Park, a long time ago, did a whole episode about that with, you know, people who talk with their eyes closed.
You know, thanks.
Yeah, I remember that.
And that was, I think, all about the EV.
And the EVs in San Francisco.
Or maybe it was more like the hybrid.
The hybrids in San Francisco.
Oh, man.
Yeah. So it's kind of like that when you're at a Tesla charging station there for a while and, you know, I just didn't think...
There's not many...
I thought there's...
A place that if you want to go meet some liberals, formally, like back in the day, you want to go meet some liberals, you want to organize politically, go charge your Tesla.
And I thought, man, you know, there's not a lot of Trump supporters at a Tesla charger, you know?
Like, I'm a real odd duck out here, you know?
Like, they just have no idea, and if they knew, it would shock them.
And yeah, that was interesting.
And now, you know, it's the opposite thing.
You know, I used to, so what's funny is I used to drive my car down, my Tesla down the highway, and they had that thing, like, rolling coal.
You know, I'm talking about where the guys with the diesel trucks roll coal.
They took the environmental controls off their diesel, and it makes the diesel engine just blow smoke.
Okay. And they call that rolling coal.
Okay. And so, I kind of knew what that was, but it's apparently a joke for these guys with, like, these tricked-out diesel trucks to come and, like, roll coal on your Tesla, like, or EVs and, like, blow the smoke on your car.
Right, right, right, right, right.
And so, I had people do that to me, like, several times.
And I would, like, It was always...
It's fantastic.
They assume you're a libtard.
Yeah! They're like, alright, we're gonna show you.
You're like, dude, I just, I wanted a cool car.
Yeah, I know.
They assume I'm a Joe Biden, Kamala Harris supporter.
Okay. And I'm not.
But now the tables have turned and now you're potentially, I mean, you could, there's a, there's a guy over in, I think it was Idaho that got hit.
Yeah. By a, by a rabid anti-Trump, anti-Elon.
Tesla protester ran over some guy.
A 70-year-old man ran over a 49-year-old man.
I'm seeing all this in the news just today.
There's stuff going on.
We could pull it up here in a second, but I'll just say when it started, it started with, you know, I was sitting around having a couple beers with one of my friends, and he said, you know, I think I'd be careful with my, with your Tesla out in Atlanta.
It might be marked, and I said, this is crazy.
You know, and he said, no, I'm seeing a lot of stuff that people are going to come after Teslas.
And this is maybe three weeks ago, you know, and I was like, I just don't believe that.
You know, I was just like, that seems outrageous.
And then my mom texts me like a week ago and my mom's like, be careful with your Tesla.
Like, you know, keep it in the garage.
And I'm like, I'm like, and I'm thinking the United States of America.
Yeah. Just don't drive this car.
Go into hiding.
I'm like, Mom, like, I just think my mom worries about a lot of stuff, you know, and I get it, right?
So she's concerned, but like...
She should be.
And I was just like, I was like, this is ridiculous.
You know, this is ridiculous.
And then this Saturday, that goes to why I texted you and I was like, we need to do this show because I'll be back in town.
And I I'm at the Tesla charger this Saturday and I'm like, I go up there and I see all these cop cars kind of parked all around, you know, and it's like doing sensory duty.
This is in Atlanta?
Yeah. And they're like doing sensory duty and they're like, like, like kind of circling around and talking to each other.
And I thought, You know, and I'm a little paranoid of the police and stuff, you know, because I've been wrongly arrested before, and, you know, so I'm a little paranoid, you know, being around the police.
I'm a healthy skepticism of the government.
Yeah, you know, I mean, they can be good, and they can also be, like, terrifying.
Of course.
And tyrannical, but, so, you know, but they were there to protect me that day, not to arrest me.
Back the blue.
Yeah, exactly.
And so, but I had no idea.
I was like, I was wondering why all of a sudden All these cops were around the Tesla chargers, and I thought maybe there was a crime that was committed.
I hadn't had a chance to look at the news.
I'm still waking up, having my coffee, and so I sit down, and I'm looking at my tablet, and I'm flipping the front page of Fox News, and it's like National Day of Terror against Teslas, and it's like a picture of this Tesla burning and I'm like, I'm like, well, where's that happening?
Like, look around and I see the police.
And I'm like, I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
I cannot believe that this is actually happening.
And it is it is.
And it just blows my mind because my now my liberal friends are going to start they haven't yet.
They know not to but I think they will at some point they mentioned I should might need to like buy another car.
They mentioned I might need to buy another car.
In the nicest way possible.
Yeah, but not for your safety.
For political...
No, they're concerned for me.
Yeah, they're concerned for me.
They know I like my car.
But, yeah.
No, they know that I'm not going to sell it because of politics.
But do they also want to kill...
Kill the brand.
I mean, you think they're like, we would love for Tesla to go out of business because of Elon Musk?
Not the friends I have.
They're not that radical.
I think they just...
Do they have a problem with Doge?
They just track left.
Oh, yeah.
They'll have a big problem with that.
But they won't make fun of me for my car.
They'll just tell me, hey, man, you might want to get another car.
And they were kind of telling me that.
And, you know, and I think...
I think, well, you know, they're liberal, they're on the Democrat side, they're watching Rachel Maddow, all that, you know, still, or if she's on there, I don't know.
But I think they do.
I think people still watch Rachel Maddow.
I think she's a thing.
Somebody was watching it the other day.
I don't know, she went away and maybe she's coming back.
Yeah, they're watching that.
They're watching that, right?
You know, so they're worried.
I'm like, okay, they're worried.
But now it's Pam Bondi.
Yeah, the firebomb.
You talk about, this is, they've arrested this person.
Yes, we are!
All of these cases are a serious threat to public safety.
Therefore, there will be no negotiating.
We are seeking 20 years in prison.
The crime was committed in Colorado, and thanks to the great investigative work by the FBI, the defendant was arrested in Plano, Texas.
Let this be a warning.
You can run, but you can't hide.
But you cannot hide.
So the guy got firebombed, and what she's saying is that he, you know, went on the lam.
Like, hey, they're coming for me.
And this is good, despite the fact that I'm not really...
despite the fact that I kind of think that this is maybe the least threatening or intimidating announcement of all time.
Yeah. Just from a delivery standpoint.
But it's certainly good, right?
These people have got to be prosecuted so you can, you know, feel safe or actually be safe.
Not just feel safe.
However, Musk was saying the other day, we covered this, that people like this, great, get them off the street, but you also really have to go after the people who are funding this.
Have you looked into that at all, Jacob?
Well, I just saw that on Fox News.
I mean, I just was like looking at the news and that article I sent you to your phone probably a couple hours ago was talking about that this might be some grassroots funded thing.
You know, honestly, I don't know.
The thing is, I think maybe there is enough people who are upset at Elon Musk that want to protest.
Is this the article here?
Yeah, this was the article.
AstroTurf Critics Speculate Tesla Protests Are Not A Grassroots Movement But Carefully Organized Campaign.
Who Is Funding And Organizing All These Paid Protesters?
Musk. Ask On X. Okay, this is kind of the response to that.
It says protests unfolded outside of Tesla showrooms across the country over the weekend.
Musk's role in helping lead President Donald Trump's Doge efforts.
Who is funding and organizing all these paid protesters?
Musk posted on X Sunday morning, accompanied by a video clip of a podcast host Joe Rogan discussing left-wing protests in recent days.
A Tesla takedown movement formed in recent days with more than 200 protests planned on Saturday in the U.S. and another few hundred planned protests in Canada.
Canada? That's really...
The whole Canadian geopolitical drama is hilarious to me.
Of course they would protest.
They're also throwing away American bourbon over there, which is a crime.
It should be a crime.
In the U.S., the protests slated for Saturday were promoted by actors, filmmakers, congressional legislators, The point is, if they really want to make a dent here, they need to start going after the people who are funding this.
And again, that's up for grabs, but we do have this...
let me see here...
not this one here, not that one, although we want to get that mailed out.
So according to somebody named Carlos Tercios, he claims that at one of the protests that they did in South Lake, Texas on Saturday, The video doesn't really show that necessarily, but that's just a claim.
The claim is like, oh, well, time's up.
I'm going.
I think it's a little bit of both.
I think it's a combination of NPCs and AstroTurf people getting paid to do it.
Well, so the AstroTurf part will come from that whole Tesla takedown movement.
If that is a real thing, and I've seen this happen, and I've worked in these organizing issues and stuff like that.
Someone had to come up with that idea.
Someone had to brand it.
They have to promote it on social media, and that's how a lot of this stuff gets started.
It's seeded in social media, promoted through there, and all the networks and people who are in different groups get notifications to show up to a certain event.
And maybe there are People who are paid but there might be a few people and they're like kind of shepherds bringing in the lambs kind of like you know bring it they kind of bring in all the different people so you have some main organizers who spread it out and get the word out and organize it and then that kind of brings in they're trying to bring in more people as many as possible and if they have a lot of money they can bring in a lot of people you know they can kind of bust people in and stuff but it will be interesting to see I
don't know.
It doesn't seem to make sense because it wasn't something you were even really thinking about.
And most people wouldn't have time to think or protest about necessarily people owning Tesla.
Well, and I know we – I mean, I love to stereotype the left as well, but you would think there would be – without being paid, it's very hard for me to believe that people so quickly could abandon the concept behind EVs is that it's to save the environment.
Go against the E.V. without there being money incentive.
That's the whole point with the USAID.
There actually have been, before the Tesla, there was all these Trump protests that were seen, right after he won, that were seeing less and less people there.
It's anecdotal, but people were noticing that when they cut off all this USAID funding, there was less I don't know, vigor from these protests.
So you're going to see a lot of people's principles dry up because they never had them to begin with.
They were enriching themselves.
And that's kind of the programming, the mind control programming and stuff like that that goes out through the social media and through the communications that get people to trigger them and change their mind.
And all of a sudden people who were pro-Tesla, pro-EV, suddenly switch.
It's like they're given the cue of what to attack.
Yeah. And all of a sudden it's like some Pavlovian, you know, reaction that they have to attacking something when they're told to sick, you know, basically an attack.
And it is, it does seem quite mindless.
You know, I mean, people certainly, you know, I wouldn't support everything Elon Musk does, but I still own a Tesla.
It's a nice car.
You know, they're going after people's personal property, and that's what's really disturbing.
Before you move on from that, I just pulled this up for my bookmarks here, because this encapsulates exactly what you're saying.
James Woods, actor James Woods, posted this.
Listen to this leftist talk about how she has sudden hatred for her co-worker.
I found out today that somebody that I work with is a conservative.
And he's somebody who's really intelligent.
And he's somebody who works in climate tech.
As a super smart guy.
Somebody I would never have thought was conservative.
And apparently he is.
And it's surprising.
And it's disgusting.
But what's most surprising to me is the level of sudden hatred that I have for him.
Sudden hatred for this man who I used to respect.
Suddenly just went boop.
Went boop.
And I f***ing hate him now.
Yeah. I mean, what a tragic way to live.
It's really shocking that there are people who are this on edge.
You know, and I have, like I told you, you know, I have some friends that get really triggered me coming on this show because you're conservative and, and, and I, you know, they...
Alright, alright, alright.
Can you, we've talked offline.
I just want the audience to hear.
I don't know what the first show that we did, but you know, so you've got, you've got somebody there.
We're about five shows down now with this one.
Yeah. Okay, and so what do they say?
What do they say about it?
They're just saying, you know, I'm supporting a right-wing Christian nationalism coming on here, and I'm out of control and supporting a right-wing agenda to take away everybody's health care and benefits and all this stuff.
And I get it, I get it.
Now, it's been a little more vitriolic since the Doge stuff.
And you know, I get it, but like, I think there's a lot of projection there, is what I feel.
And I come on here, I've talked about all different kinds of things.
I don't think we ever really dig too deep into a lot of political things that necessarily...
Really, we've been on a lot of tertiary subjects that kind of are...
Not even really overtly political necessarily, which has been great.
Yeah, and I'll be the first to admit, like, the left-right paradigm is certainly a construct that is very effective at dividing people.
If you actually talk about the issues, though – I think you can really get to the agreement.
And you and I will disagree on things too.
Right, exactly.
We're still able to have a conversation.
Right, and you and I have talked offline about, you know, what my definition of Christians being active in public life, if I get branded a Christian nationalist for, you know, saying, hey look, like, libertarianism sounds great, but over my, you know, stench in politics I'm like,
you know, if live and let live means I have to And it's interesting,
you know, and I'm more of like a secular libertarian, you know, and so, you know, and I kind of look to Of
course! on the conservative side, like you and I can talk and disagree on things and kind of debate and go back and forth and and then you know maybe try and find some common ground but like on the left they have one point of view and if you step outside of that point of view you're like you're you're either on our side or you're like persona non grata basically and it it's really bad I mean and I I really I have some liberal friends who talk to me And are still my friends,
and then I have liberal friends who will probably, I don't know if they'll ever talk to me again after the last Trump administration even.
And it's just sad, you know?
But I can't do anything.
I never stop talking to people.
There's also families that have been divided over it, you know?
Fundamentally, my problem, one of the biggest problems with the left is they really can't define what a good life is.
And you talk about a broader coalition, the reason that's happened is because evil, what most people look at and say, oh wow, that's dark, that's evil.
And they see that and they say, okay, well this whole truth is relative thing, people have been brought out of the new age that I know from this whole, you know, you talk about when we were talking about the professor being trafficked in Nevada and that whole, you know, we can say that that's That's objectively evil, and there's hardly any accountability for the people who do these things, and that's waking a lot of people up, right?
I think so.
Transing children and calling it health care has caused a lot of people to say, no, I'm going to draw a line in the sand.
This far, no further.
Yeah, I mean, it takes a while.
To for for society to finance math, it's ethical, moral limits and boundaries.
And that requires an open debate process and for people to be able to express and freely speak and kind of talk about all these issues.
But, you know, they're censoring.
us and persecuting us for not agreeing with them.
And that's just so outrageous.
And now it's trying to scare us into getting rid of our cars.
I mean, I bought this car.
This is my car.
And who cares what my politics are or what I'm doing?
They used to do this to the SUVs.
The liberals used to, those anarchist people would come in, like, slash your tires and paint your SUVs and stuff because they were gas guzzlers, right?
And they were trying to get people to get rid of their SUVs.
It's the same thing now as Tesla vehicles.
They don't care about the environment at all.
If you cared about the environment, you sure as heck, you wouldn't try and destroy a car, you know, and create trash and more waste by destroying vehicles and slashing tires and burning vehicles and all of that.
Yeah, we're good.
You know, perhaps it is really a form of terrorism.
It is.
It is.
What's happening now.
I agree 100%.
They're trying to actually terrorize us.
And at first I thought the term was outrageous, you know, because I'm like, oh, well, this is just, you know, some kind of like arsonists or whatever.
But actually it's a nationwide, maybe worldwide, terror campaign against people who own a car.
Yeah. Well, look at what you did.
I mean, you're a Tesla owner now.
Everywhere you go, you're essentially driving while looking over your shoulder.
Yeah, and I love my car.
I mean, that was one of the things, you know, when I bought that car, I got so much happiness out of it.
And I've driven this car back and forth across the country multiple times.
It's been a really great asset for me because, you know, I haven't had a car I think so.
really great service and their auto service centers has been really good at keeping it maintained and at first you know it was something I was worried about and I've even lived in my Tesla you know I've lived in that car like it's even been like a Like a domicile for me when I'm traveling.
That's something no one ever even talks about.
I've lived in my car before and traveled across the country.
And I was only able to do that in a Tesla because it's got that camping mode on it.
And I use it basically as this mobile tent.
And I traveled all around the country.
West Coast, California, Oregon, all of that.
And I'd just park my car and sleep in the back and turn on the camera.
mode because you know it doesn't have to like um it doesn't it doesn't have to idle to to run the ac and heat and all that and the climate controls and it brought me so much joy like i was so happy to own this car and i never cared about like the conservative
people who were who were giving me crap for owning it i was like you know that i i even had people walk up and i i plug my car in and i was in my uh you know where my family lives up in popper bluff missouri and i had some good old boy come up and unplug my car from the outlet just to just to mess with me and they were all laughing i i had people do that It's terrible.
That is horrible.
We don't want your electric vehicle kind around here.
Yes! Yeah I had to put up with stuff like that and now it's the liberals are trying to firebomb my car and I just like I just want to enjoy my vehicle man you know like I'm a car and I'm a Tesla enthusiast.
So this was one of the this was seen from one of the protests.
This is the tweet I was referencing earlier.
It's time to arrest those funding the attacks.
This was a guy Uh, who owns one of the Cybertrucks, uh, which are, in my opinion, hideous.
But, uh, it is what it is.
He's got the right to own it.
And he decided, I mean, come on, he pulls up to the Tesla protest as a troll in a Cybertruck, and viewer discretion is advised, some F-bombs are about to get thrown, so if you have young ones, you don't want to hear this language.
Now it's time to turn it off, but take a listen.
"Get off my fucking car!" You touch that shit again, I will break your fucking fingers!
Okay, come on!
Bring it on!
You know what?
You're fucking nasty!
Fuck you!
Nasty! Go fuck yourself!
I love you.
I feel very very sorry for you.
Is that insulting his manhood there?
Is that what she's doing?
Jay! Jay!
Jay! Jay!
And it goes on like this.
You're a fucking traitor to the United States, you fuckface.
*crying*
A traitor to the United States for owning a Tesla.
Yeah, this is just, I think it's out of control.
These people, it's like, I just, it's so off baseline.
It's so off baseline, you know, like it's not, it's like every day I wake up And I'm like in a different dimension every day.
You know, right now with the second Trump administration, just how everything's...
Even since when Biden won, things were weird.
And then Trump got re-elected, things just kept getting weirder.
There's a string of really strange things, I think, that have happened maybe since like 2016 or so, since Trump's been elected.
The world's just been a really interesting place.
I think for me, I think it started with Brexit.
It started with Brexit.
Brexit was the foreshadowing, as Tolkien would write, the small stones that triggered an avalanche.
That's what Brexit was, which really foreshadowed Trump winning in 2016.
Yeah, and the world's just realigning.
There's this really interesting realignment that's happening.
I look at these people and I just don't see how you even get information like this or come to conclusions that people who own Teslas are traitors to the United States.
And you know what's in it, so this is all because of Musk, and this is what's, I'm gonna make this point.
Huge news.
So Musk goes up to Wisconsin to do this big rally.
They're trying to get the Supreme Court to be Republican.
There's a big race.
I think it's today.
I don't know.
But they want that because if it's a Democrat, then the Supreme Court will shift control, and they're going to gerrymander the districts in Wisconsin, and there'll be two Republican seats less.
That's why he's there.
While he's there, he brings out one of these guys.
Gracious is his last name, who's been working on the Doge team.
And they pull up the data that they have found that they say is conclusive.
Explicit policy and plan that what they did the five, you know, five million illegals that they said came in under Biden.
They were essentially given Social Security numbers when they apply for their work permit because they've been released, right?
They're never going to see the judge.
They're released at some point.
You're supposed to see the immigration judge.
There's 700 immigration judges.
There's five million illegals that are, you know, supposed to come to court in three years, you know, so they're never going to so while they're now Legally, technically, now they're legally here, been released, they apply for a work permit.
That application, without them requesting it, then they get signed up and they get a social security number.
Just for requesting the work permit, they get a social security number and then they are then registered to vote.
And they found all of this.
And then they did a sampling and said how many of these actually voted.
And they voted!
And so you talk about treason.
That is, in my opinion, actually treason.
The conclusion is that they were doing this to essentially create a one-party system in America where, you know, they're gonna demographically change it to the point where the Republicans can never win again.
And this is a conspiracy theory, by the way, that's gone back all the way since, like, Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs and the late Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs.
This is what they've been saying, that the open border Obviously it was also for the Koch brother class and the cheap labor, but it was also a new underclass.
They needed a new permanent underclass.
This is what people have been saying on talk radio for years.
And now that you have a guy getting in there, he's releasing the data that is proving the conspiracy theorist correct.
That illegals do vote.
Like that's what they all say, illegals don't vote.
Yeah, they do.
And they've uncovered a direct plot to make it happen.
Interesting that through auditing how the money is spent that we find that out.
And that's all it is.
And they've been wanting to do this.
They were talking about this since like Ross Perot ran for president, you know, and I was a little kid and they were talking about doing a full audit of the U.S.
budget. And that's why the Reform Party was so popular when when Perot ran was he ran on this balancing the budget and cutting the U.S.
deficit and running the country like a business.
And that's why I always thought like Trump was like Ross Perot in a lot of ways.
You know, he just ended up winning the Republican primary and becoming president.
But like, you know, a businessman becoming president.
And we used to hear that trope all the time that, you know, they need to run the run the the government like a business.
They used to say that like my grandparents and stuff would say that, you know, wish we get a businessman and they're like stuff like that.
And then we finally got him, you know, and now this is all actually happening, which is kind of blowing my mind, to be honest, because, you know, Trump always says stuff.
And then he comes out of nowhere with stuff that like people probably been thinking about for decades.
And then, you know, and then it actually starts happening.
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So, Jacob, what you were saying was, essentially, just kind of paraphrasing, we're finally getting in there.
I've been saying this for a while, like, Musk is in there looking at all this stuff.
He's got really competent people, by the way.
They did this, you know, they've been talking about how it's all these just kids that don't know anything.
And there's some element of that.
I'm not saying they don't know anything.
But very competent business leaders in this country have quit their jobs to go work for Musk and Doge.
And what they're finding is, essentially, every stereotypical thought anybody's ever had about government and its inefficiency is 100% true.
And they're exposing all of that.
And the fact that the left doesn't want it is I mean, they love their...
I don't know.
Why do you think that is?
Do they just love the big government, or is it just brainwashing?
I don't know.
I mean, part of it, I think, is the media, because people are getting really hyperbolic about it.
They're saying that Doge making all these cuts are going to kill people, and people are going to die because of Doge, and he's going to cut off funding to Grandma.
Uh, you know, certainly I would say that, you know, cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security could be highly controversial.
Though, you know, there's certainly waste and fraud there that should be rooted out.
If you want the programs to actually operate the way that it should operate, you shouldn't want people committing fraud with Medicare and Medicaid.
They should get the fraud out.
Well, I want Medicare and Medicaid to stay around and Social Security to stay around for now, at least, because there's a lot of people like my parents who We're good to go!
They paid into it.
That would suck for them if they didn't get that.
And like, you know, and I get it.
There's people who probably wouldn't even support it, but they paid in it their whole lives.
They want it out, you know, like.
Well, back to that previous point with the with what Musk uncovered with these illegals, they they got signed up for maximum services as well.
They get the Social Security, then they get max Medicaid benefits and then they get IRS refunds.
There's apparently some category Musk was talking about how you can get IRS refunds.
without any income so they got that as well so and then FEMA funds that FEMA funds were used to put them up in New York hotels while the East Tennesseans and North Carolinians after the hurricane are totally decimated and there's no more there's no more FEMA funds I mean it's it's literally exposing the fact that we have a government that has that hates the people that actually live here.
It's really awful because you know we do have programs that in the government that people do need, I think.
And even though I'm a libertarian, I try and be as pragmatic in this kind of stuff as much as possible.
And there certainly are things that people have that are lifelines to them.
And we put that into law for a reason.
And people want to support that.
They want to have some kind of trust in government that it does do something good for us if we pay our taxes or whatever.
But, you know, there's been so much distrust and so much waste, fraud and abuse that programs that could have done good are now detrimental and hurting people and wasting money.
And it's just a real sad thing.
We could take care of everybody in this country.
That's what the left used to say, by the way.
They actually used to say that.
Yeah, and I know, I know, yeah.
And now they're like, you know, they don't see that there's an effort to make this stuff more efficient.
Yeah, and I...
He said the other day...
That they casually find a billion dollars being spent.
And he gave an example of a Parks Department survey that gave a company...
I misunderstood it when he said it when I talked about it on Friday.
They gave a company a billion dollars to do a survey that could have cost $10,000.
That's just fraud!
But who's really getting that money?
The politicians?
Are they getting that money?
Are the children of politicians getting that money?
It's so sad because we do have so many things, I think, you know, in our American Yeah.
like the new deal that people really still find that they wanna keep around right now.
And certainly these programs, be it Medicare and Medicaid and things like that, are important to people, and I want those to work, right?
I want those to work.
I want those programs to do what we think we're paying money into.
When you take and you look at your paycheck, and you see it coming out for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and you think, oh, well, at least grandma's getting her paycheck, you know?
I mean, that...
Yeah, but not Juan, a member of Trinidad and Tobago, who just got here last month.
It's really sad because, you know, Americans, we really want to help people.
We really want to take care of people.
This is a really great country, and we're just getting ripped off by our government, and it's hard to pay your taxes.
You don't want to pay your taxes, but then you want the things that you pay for to do the good things that you think they're doing, and we're just getting none of that.
We're paying taxes, and we're going into debt, and the programs don't work.
And you're just getting screwed all around right now.
It's really hard.
It's really hard time.
So at the time of recording today is April 1st.
Yeah, April Fool's Day.
Yeah, that's right.
We've got, you know, people supposed to pay taxes here in a few weeks.
Yeah. And yet they are uncovering Casually, like I said, a billion dollars wasted.
The USAID stuff, which has been, which is essentially just the Intel oligarchy funding color revolutions and funding organizations and getting kickbacks, that agency is formally shuttered.
But the amount of waste, the amount of, just the limited amount of details, and it's only like, it's like less than 1% of the budget.
But you've got an average American over here who's like, man, I've got to pay taxes, and yet they're wasting it.
It's so disconnected.
And so tomorrow, Wednesday, is what Trump is calling Liberation Day.
And I don't really know what all that entails.
I think it has to do with tariffs and bringing money back.
I shouldn't hold my breath, but I'm still holding out.
He's going to abolish the IRS.
I wish he would.
President Trump, if you're listening to this, you need to abolish the IRS.
It's a horrible, horrible thing that we have to go through every year to track down all of our expenses and turn over all of our personal information to the government.
And he knows that all too well as a business owner.
I mean, he knows that all too well.
And the fact that they leaked his IRS information.
So burdensome and just such a pain when you're just trying to run your life and then you got the government just digging all over your personal papers and effects.
It seems to go against everything that this country was founded on.
So I, you know, I want to support DOJ and I think we should be able to get the IRS abolished and we should be able to save money and have an external revenue service and save Americans money, still fund things that we need, and make the government more accountable for You know, so the things that we actually want, we get.
And we get good services instead of getting ripped off.
And that's unfortunate that we have to pay taxes and we still get ripped off in this country.
So for that, I do support Doge and Musk to try and save us money.
And I think he's trying to do something good here.
And it's unfortunate that you have leftists trying to basically terrorize people over just basic government accountability to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse.
I'd also say this to Mr.
President and all the Pam Bondi and all of our law enforcement officials in Washington, D.C.
and the FBI is like, please protect people from this madness.
Like, you know, don't don't allow us to be terrorized by people because this ultimately affects your agenda and and all of us.
And this is not a civil society.
If you can't safely drive your car around without worrying, it's going to be firebombed.
So that's just, you know, what I would like to ask for some, you know, continue to upgrade our public safety in that regard for our Tesla chargers.
Maybe need to have some more security around them.
It looks like, unfortunately.
Yeah. Put the Pope glass around there.
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the whole point of this was to talk about what we've talked about but You're a Tesla owner, and you're in danger.
I mean, especially living, you know, right now we're recording this in Arkansas, which I affectionately refer to as the Shire.
You may have a radical leftist here or there, but, you know, if you're going back home to where you're based out of Atlanta, I mean, good grief.
I mean, that's like, you know, that's terrifying.
I mean, it's very possible that my car could get destroyed.
And I do have full coverage, which is great, but what a horrible thing to still have to consider that your car is going to get, you know, destroyed for no reason.
No matter where I take it, you know, now I'm marked and...
Yeah. Let's hope they...
Listen to this guy.
Here is...
So apparently the guy pictured here took his key and put a swastika on, and of course, You'll know, you know this right?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You got cameras all the way around that thing if you want.
Yeah. It'll give you notifications even to people walk up and touch it and stuff like that.
Wow. So it does have those kind of features.
What it's missing is like a Batmobile-esque like taser feature like that you could activate.
Well you know you can actually I can remote in and drive my car there's a there's a summons feature.
That's crazy.
That's like a James Bond deal.
Yeah you can remote in and drive them too.
Anyway this uh this lib this this is a Funny because it's a libs reaction of basically the fact that he's going to be in big, he's in big legal trouble.
The fact that he's caught, this guy's to show like how people are, they're acting out their rage and they're not even really understanding what they're doing.
That doesn't take responsibility, but like listen to this guy.
I can wipe it off with a towel.
It's not a key.
It is a hate crime, sir.
It was a crayon.
It is a hate crime.
Listen. Did you write a swastika on there?
I'm sorry you're upset.
Did you write a swastika?
It didn't even work.
It's not a key.
I was probably putting my keys in my pocket.
Have you looked at your car?
Is there a key mark?
Swastika. That's impossible.
It's at the police right now.
It's being fingerprinted.
What do you mean it's being fingerprinted?
Because they were trying to track you down.
Thankfully, Facebook tracked you down.
So your business, your freaking livelihood, everything now.
Because you chose to write a, so to tell Facebook that you're sorry for writing a swastika on a Tesla.
Fidgeting. I'm sorry.
For what?
And I apologize.
For what?
I have nothing against your car.
For what?
And I have nothing against you.
So why did you write a swastika on a Tesla?
Obviously, I have something against Elon Musk, but that's not the way to show my- So Elon Musk owns that car?
No, he owns the company.
Because it was bought and paid for a long time ago.
That's why it's misguided, and obviously I did not intend to do this, sir.
Alright, we're gonna wait for the- Well, and follow that up with that guy that sued the dude.
Alright, tell me where to stop.
Is this it?
Uhh, there was another one I sent you that was just on Fox News.
Yeah. Yeah, it's like we're having to protect ourselves now.
We're having to, like, bring in, you know, now the Tesla drivers are having to, like, now we're going to have to see, like, are we going to get any protection?
Are the courts going to back us up?
Like, and that's the kind of stuff that, you know, is really, you know, we'll see, like, how are these going to be prosecuted as crimes?
I mean, Pam Bondi's saying she's going to take it real seriously.
Yeah, she's got one and maybe there's more.
Again, I just want to say the thing I want to say about all this is like the funding.
Cut. Go after those.
If this is being astroturfed, you've got to go after those people.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
This has been happening for a very long time with all these pet issues of the left.
If you're funding organizations that are going out, firebombing and committing crimes, and you're funding this type of rhetoric, and the media is obviously responsible as well because they're clapping like seals.
They want to see this.
They're the ones that do this.
The media helps.
Push all of this narrative.
So they've been on the left saying for a while now that Elon Musk is a Nazi.
And that's the thing!
And everybody now is a Nazi again.
And so now they're getting everybody all like worked up.
So if Musk is a Nazi, then it's morally right to destroy him, to potentially cause him harm or assassinate him, or destroy his business.
That's what they're saying.
That's why you had all the rhetoric when Trump got shot in the ear or almost died at the golf course.
Like, well, they're telling everybody that this is the next fascist dictator, you know, from the 1930s and 40s.
So then, likewise, they did the same thing in 2020.
Like, you don't have to tell.
I think the 2020 election was rigged.
There was a lot of stuff that went on there.
If you've got some local level election official that believes that Trump is Hitler, you don't have to give him an explicit instruction to cheat because he'll do it because he thinks he's doing the right thing.
Would you stop a dictator from coming to power if you could?
And the answer is, you know, we like to say, well, yeah, I would.
And so then you don't really have to even tell them to cheat.
They'll do it because they've been sold to this brainwashing rhetoric.
It's just it's getting really scary.
I just see these people are Drifting further and further away from reality on the left.
And I think it's losing a lot.
The left is losing a lot of support because of this.
Because when you start turning violent, you know, and you start having to engage in acts of terrorism to basically implement your political agenda, you know, that's when you start to lose the hearts and minds of the people.
And unfortunately, Because they're implementing a terrorism campaign against anybody who has a Tesla.
A lot of innocent people are now targets of violence because the media and these leftist political organizers and People who are on the left and these politicians have basically told the mob to come and get us and this is like a mob rule mentality on the left that the mob will come after you,
and now it's like the mob will destroy anyone.
It's like a force of nature that you can't control when these people go crazy.
And it's all leading to a very sad conclusion, is that these people are going to engage in acts of violence, and unfortunately innocent people are now going to be harmed because the media and people on the left decided to target All right.
Yeah, yeah.
You're exactly right.
And that is just out, that's way outside of what's normal in American politics and discussion.
And I can't see people supporting that.
We got to get these.
These tactics have got to go, right?
Yeah! Jacob, thanks for being with us.
We're out of time.
Glad to be here.
This has been a really great show.
Yeah, I love it.
It's always great to talk to you.
Folks, that's all the time that we have for this edition, this special edition of the Paul Harrell Program.
We really appreciate you being with us.
God bless everybody out there watching.
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