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March 19, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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Logos Academy Episode 37: Battle For Berlin: Joseph Goebbels
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are live.
Welcome everyone to episode 37 of Logos Academy.
It's going to be a little bit of a different show today.
We're actually going to be doing a podcast format, which is not something we typically do, but we're not going to have any cameras on today.
It's going to be primarily an audio discussion slash interview.
We are joined today by Kurt from...
Antelope Hill.
He is a translator and editor with Antelope Hill, and he's also a part owner of the company itself.
So, Kurt, welcome, brother.
It's nice to have you on.
Hey, thanks for having me.
So, today we're going to hop into a book review of a book that is on Antelope Hill.
It's called Battle for Berlin by Joseph Goebbels.
As far as I know, I think you guys are actually the only people that actually have Battle for Berlin.
I haven't seen it anywhere else.
I believe that's correct, yeah.
And that's generally what we try to do.
It's very rare that we'll publish something that's available from another publisher.
Typically when we do, it's usually at least a new translation or a new edition.
The basic reasoning for that is...
Well, one, we don't want to compete with other people who are involved in the same mission that we are.
And second is just purely business reasons, I suppose.
We try to bring out mostly stuff that you can't get anywhere else.
That's sort of what we try to be known for.
I think that's a good way to go about it.
There's a lot of...
Book publishing companies that are out there that are spawning left and right, which is nice.
It is good to see that there are so many people taking interest in reviving these books.
A lot of them are either lost or they're just not widely known at this point.
I think it's really good to bring back these old works and give us a real understanding of the circumstance from the past.
I think Battle for Berlin does a really good job, and I am very excited to discuss this book today because this is one of my favorite reads, actually.
I would definitely put it in my top five.
It's simple.
It's not this overly complex work, but it's also very important to kind of shape your understanding of not only what was going on in National Socialist Germany or the leading up to it, but to what we live through today as well and kind of how we can get ourselves out of a situation like today.
Before we get into the book and kind of delve into all of the meat of the subject, for the audience, I kind of just want you to maybe introduce yourself a little bit, kind of how you got to working with Antelope Hill and kind of how you came across this work specifically as well.
Sure.
Well, I've been part of Antelope Hill basically from the start.
I was the translator for our first translation that we published.
Which is titled The Burning Souls by a man some of you might be familiar with, Leon de Grel, who was a Belgian SS officer who managed to escape to Spain in the closing days of the war and actually lived until,
I want to say, the late 80s.
Throughout that whole period, he continued to be an outspoken advocate.
For their mission and was the subject of a couple of attempted assassinations by the Mossad.
So that's kind of how I got started here, translating out of French.
I've also done the editing for a lot of our German translations.
Including mostly stuff from the time period of National Socialist Germany, but also some other unique historical stuff, like the autobiography of Götz von Berlichingen, who was a knight in the late Holy Roman Empire.
Another really entertaining read because that guy was an absolute lunatic in the best sort of way.
Anyways, so I've been doing this, translating, editing, generally helping to run the affairs of the company for many years now.
I believe, what is it, five years now?
The time's all getting away from me.
And throughout that time period, I've tried to just do my best to represent our history as a civilization.
in the best way possible and continue to steer Antelope Hill's catalog towards important historical topics that I think people in today's
Yeah, I couldn't agree with that more,
looking at...
How much, or how little, rather, we know about our own history.
You know, you don't exactly get a good book list when you go to your local high school or even your local library.
You know, these works are not something that you're going to find laying around at the library.
You're lucky if maybe you'll find some writings from ancient Rome or something like that, but even that is very rare to come across nowadays.
Typically, there's more...
Critical race theory or something about transgenderism or something on the bookshelves anymore, unfortunately.
So I want to talk Battle for Berlin, how you kind of came across this work, because I have to be honest, without getting in touch with Antelope Hill and kind of seeing the book list that you guys have, I had no idea that this book existed.
I actually didn't even know that Goebbels wrote works other than his personal diary, which is...
Always very heavily used by Jewish academia.
They'll take some of the things he says out of context and try to make him look bad.
They always use this one where he talks about the liquidation of the Jews in Europe, which is an obvious business term for removing them of their financial assets and their power.
But they conflate this and try to say that that was an extermination quote.
I'm curious, how did you guys come in contact with this work or find out about it?
And what made you decide that this was one of the ones that you really wanted to put out there for people?
Sure.
So, as you said, one of the things that led us to stumble upon this book was Michael, which is the sort of semi-autobiographical fiction novel that Goebbels wrote.
We published our edition of that a while ago.
That put us on to the potential for publishing other works by Goebbels.
The other work that put us on to this one was called...
Oh man, I'm drawing a blank.
We published another book that was about the struggle for Berlin in the 1930s.
From the perspective of more of an anonymous essay man.
And that one was quite interesting.
That one was Conquering Berlin.
That's what it was.
Conquering Berlin by Wilfred Bado.
Bado was a writer for...
I forget what department he was in.
It may have been the SS or it may have just been the general party publishing arm.
Anyways, he wrote this story called Conquering Berlin that was sort of a composite story.
The main character was based heavily on his own experiences, but also had woven into it stories from other people that he knew personally from his time in the Berlin essay.
And that one is a bit more raucous and Earthy than Battle for Berlin.
Again, it's told from the perspective of the sort of hard-charging, brawling SA man whose greatest enjoyment comes from smashing a beer mug into the face of a communist assassin.
So that put us on to this book as well, just from the general sphere of books about the struggle for Berlin in the early 30s and in the 20s as well.
And yeah, so I think it was a combination of those two.
I'm not sure exactly how we stumbled across this book, but we had really liked those previous two titles and we figured this one would be a good fit for us as well.
Great.
So I'll start with maybe a premise of the book and kind of give maybe a short little summary, and then we can actually talk about the details a bit.
So for those that aren't familiar with the work, that haven't heard of it, like myself, not long ago, this work is very unique because it gives a perspective of the actual inner workings of the National Socialist Revolution and what these people...
Went through in this time period, how they came to power, and not from, you know, you watch all of these modern Jewish documentaries where they give this like really odd story of their rise to power, right?
It was just like this violent propaganda rise where they were terrifying people into joining the organization or something like that, which is actually quite the contrary, you know, and when you read into this and really see how...
How they won over the people with their ideas.
It kind of gives an important framework for what we experience today.
All of us that live in modern Jewish America especially, but basically the modern Jewish West, you wake up to these things and you kind of ask yourself, wow, how do we fix this?
How do we get ourselves out of the circumstance that we live in?
And I always wondered, How the National Socialists did it, right?
To understand how these people did what appeared to be a miracle in their country, you know, to think about the circumstance at the time.
These people were financially beholden to Jewish finance.
They were, you could even say, psychologically beholden to these people in the same way that our people are today, right?
We have thousands and thousands, maybe even millions of Christians today.
That are touting, you know, God's chosen people and Israel is our greatest ally.
And this is, you know, extremely dangerous.
Our people are arrested by this psychological phenomena of Jewish power.
And this was much the same in Germany.
They even explain the circumstance in Germany where the evangelical Christians that were in Germany at the time were doing the exact same thing.
And this was over 100 years ago.
And it always kind of...
Piqued my curiosity, you know, how are they able to do this?
And to actually read a work like this, which explains that process, it gives us a better maybe guidance or example for today on where do we start?
Where do we put our feet down in order to start working at chiseling away at that Jewish power structure that has got us essentially under the boot right now?
And that's one of the main kind of...
Kurt, I'm curious.
Do you have any other assessments as to what interests may be you about the work?
Because it is such a unique piece in comparison to what I'm used to reading, at least.
I read very solid philosophy or history or something like that.
I think this almost has a dynamic of both inside of it.
Sure.
I think all the The works that I really want to publish.
This one bears very much on how to understand the situation that we're placed in today.
That's sort of the prime directive behind how we select works to be published by Antelope Hill.
I wouldn't want to publish anything that's Mere curiosity or something like that.
Although occasionally we'll publish something that's a little more fun.
We also want it to be something that one of our people can read and come away with something important.
So for this book, of course, just like all of the other sort of early Third Reich works, stuff from before the war.
Stuff that mainly concerns the domestic politics and the rise to power and the situation that preceded them, right?
That stuff is all very relevant today, to the point where it almost seems cliche to say it, but it's really true.
And as you read through a work like this, you'll find yourself over and over again going, wow, that sounds familiar.
I've experienced, you know, not much has changed.
And of course, certain things have changed, and certain things have changed a lot.
But Goebbels' description of the political dynamic that's taking place in Germany, and a lot of the tactics that are deployed against them, and a lot of the attitudes that people hold, someone living today, someone from our generation,
can look at that and go, wow.
He faced the same problems that I feel like I'm facing whenever I try to discuss politics or to get someone to change their mind about something.
Or I've seen these same tactics deployed to stifle dissent today.
It's all very much there's nothing new under the sun.
Yeah, that's an interesting one, too, is the tactics displayed.
You know, because one of the more interesting things I read in the book is he talks about this situation where some national socialist gentlemen went to a rally, and they go to defend themselves against these communists who start up this,
like, riot in this beer hall.
As they defend themselves, the Jewish media does this obfuscation, right?
Or they make it out that these guys were there looking for violence and they were the aggressors.
And he actually quotes a couple Jewish articles and talks about or displays their falsities.
And they do the same thing today.
This is no different at all.
You'll have a group of guys like...
We'll use Patriot Front maybe as a really good modern example.
They go and they march in like Virginia or Tennessee or something.
It's always a peaceful march.
They're never looking for violence.
They're not saying anything crazy or outlandish.
And the media covers it and they'll do one of two things.
Either they say that they're a hate group, they're looking for violence or something of the sort, or one of the newer tactics.
And I don't know if this was present in Germany.
Back when the National Socialists were coming to power.
But today now they just smear them as feds.
They know that the average person has so much distrust for their own government and the system that controls us that just calling them feds is enough to discredit them in the eyes of the common man.
But just to see how the Jewish media will take a situation and they will so adequately twist the facts.
So that if you only read their sources or their articles about a situation or an event, you have a completely distorted view on not only what happened, but what those people even are, what they stand for,
which very much leads to the concept of the modern quote-unquote Nazi, right?
And in the Jewish Hollywood archetype of what a Nazi is, which is just completely contrary and has nothing to do with...
Yeah, well, it's no accident that Goebbels himself is the origin of the term lying press that caught on with a lot of conservatives during the first Trump campaign and has stuck beyond that.
Goebbels is the origin of that.
He's the one who sort of popularized the term.
Not to say that, of course, he has a trademark on the idea that the press are a bunch of liars.
That's sort of been the common attitude towards the press for as long as the press has existed.
But I do think it's funny that that specific term was really his creation or owes its popularity to him.
There were plenty of examples from the book of the press.
Basically collaborating to just tell absolute lies.
There's a very funny one that's set after one of Hitler's visits to Berlin, one of his rare visits to Berlin during this time period, where he gives a speech to the Berlin SA and to the general public.
One of these journalists basically fabricates a story in which He gets drunk with Hitler after this, and Hitler tells him all sorts of just incredible stories about what his plans are and what the party is about and this and that and the other thing.
And Goebbels basically goes and publishes his own article in return, pointing out, among other things, that Hitler doesn't drink.
And so the story about getting drunk with him is complete fantasy, and basically all these other newspapers picked up the fake story and just ran with it, which is incredible,
but again, you see the same thing happen today.
All kinds of just ludicrous stories get thrown out there, especially when it comes to anyone on the nationalist right.
And he also points out the immense difficulty of defending against this sort of thing.
Because to defend against it, you have to go after not only whoever originates the story, but after anyone else who picks it up afterwards, after people who are simply discussing it, and it becomes impossible, right?
So that's why he pushes for the creation of a party newspaper that he envisions as a way to go on the offensive.
As the saying goes, a lie has run around the world before Truth has finished tying its shoelaces, or any variation on that.
And Goebbels realized pretty quickly that defending against this sort of constant slander just wasn't worth it, and they had to simply go out and tell their own story.
Yeah, I think that's a really good and interesting assessment as well, is that, you know, To try to refute every lie that the Jewish media will portray about you or make of you, well,
I mean, you could spend all day refuting one, and by the next day, they've already put out another, right?
And it's impossible to actually keep up with that on an indefinite scale and defend yourself in that way.
And this is kind of, you see this a lot, both from Goebbels and Hitler in their writings.
This is a complaint that they had about their essential conservative party at the time, right?
Much like we have the conservatives today who are merely defensive.
And the problem with being on this defensive scale when it comes to these things is you can draw a line in the sand.
But if you're defending yourself, you're always going to get pushed back in the opposite direction rather than being able to force your convictions or force your views to the forefront.
Think about what a conservative was 50 years ago.
It was no homosexual marriage, no race mixing, things like this.
Now a conservative is like, oh yeah, as long as Lady Maga is voting for Trump, I'm happy.
The plot is lost, right?
They don't even have their own views or convictions anymore.
And it's because they've been purely defensive.
And this is one of the great insights that I think comes from Goebbels, not only in this work, but in many of his speeches and other statements, is that you have to go on the offensive.
If you're ever going to win people over or you're going to win against these...
Marxist, communistic type of elements, which, by the way, are always on the offensive.
Do you ever see these radical left-wing people on the defensive?
Are they ever personally defending their views of transsexualism or homosexuality or any of these things?
They don't defend these views.
They just force them down other people's throats.
They force the social pressures in that direction.
And I think this is kind of the brilliance of the National Socialists and their realization that the only way for them to actually achieve social change in the direction that they want is for them to force that social change from this offensive angle,
which, again, you see this in not only Goebbels' works, it's in Mein Kampf.
I mean, this is loaded everywhere, this concept of pushing their view out into the forefront.
Yeah, I mean, they, and I think Goebbels does a very good job of sort of explaining the psychology behind it in this book.
When he talks about the conservatives, he essentially views them as people who don't understand how to do politics.
identifies them with the sort of privileged class that comes from a sort of...
Pre-democratic Germany, in the sense of, you know, the way that they had done things before.
They had, like, the weighted voting in Prussia that gave greater weight to the aristocracy and the land-owning classes.
They were complacent.
They were basically oriented towards maintaining their pre-existing privileges, and they sort of viewed the mass political movement as...
Dirty.
Something to be avoided.
Something that they weren't cut out for.
And Goebbels really then praises the actual working class nature of the NSDAP and says, here is where you can get people who can pursue an ideal.
right? People who aren't preoccupied with their status, with being polite, with being respectable in the sort of elite, uh, Jewish circles of the Capitol.
The conservatives are simply too...
They don't have the nerve for it.
They're not the right type of people.
And that I think you definitely see with...
It's starting to change now somewhat.
I mean, not to be an optimist here, but the Republican Party is at least better than it used to be in these terms.
There is more of an ideologically radical element in today's Republican Party, for better or for worse, and their understanding is still very limited, but it's better than the Mitt Romney party.
The Mitt Romney party is sort of a perfect example of the bourgeois laziness and desire to be respectable more than to accomplish a necessary end.
Yeah, that's very good.
I actually just wanted to pull a quote from what we're discussing about being on the offensive against these things.
This is from, I think, chapter four here.
Goebbels says, as is well known, the best defense is a good offense.
And if the defense is carried out in a weak, half-hearted attempt, as is the case with our bourgeoisie, the adversary will rapidly conquer position after position until he violently forces the defender out of his last entrenchments.
And this is just a story that rings so true, right?
Again, as we see with our conservative parties today.
One other thing I wanted to talk about here that I think is kind of crucial that he talks about in this book, and it's something that they used for propaganda methods, is the story of a horse vessel.
I think this is a key element in kind of...
Gaining that public spirit towards the movement, kind of gaining that traction and the love for the movement.
There's one thing in history, a mistake I will say, that the Jews always make, and that is they make a martyr out of their enemies.
And our people have this intrinsic thing inside of us that when we see somebody being unjustly persecuted or harmed or oppressed or whatever the case may be, Our altruism kicks in, that suicidal empathy at times,
where we're so devoted to standing up for that person that's being harmed.
This is where we benefit from this martyr complex.
I think the story of Horst Vessel does a very good job at portraying that exact dynamic.
Do you want to explain the story of Horst Vessel a little bit?
We can touch on that.
Yeah, sure.
So, for those who don't know, Horst Wessel was a member of the Berlin SA, the Sturmabteilung, who were basically the sort of dedicated core of a local party organization.
They have a reputation for being the sort of enforcers, the muscle, which is true.
They were...
The ones that were relied upon to fight when fighting had to be done.
But they were also the more ideological-driven core of a local party organization.
They were really just in general the people that the party relied on to be their guys on the ground.
Anyways, Horst Wessel, he sort of made a name for himself as a brave and dedicated leader.
He led the Berlin Party's initiative to basically expand into the working class areas that were heavily dominated by the Communist Party of Germany, the KPD, and basically had already become something of a legend as a leader.
Now, at some point, I...
Don't recall the exact way that this transpired, but essentially the KPD and their local sort of paramilitaries,
like the Red Front Fighters Association and others, they basically put out a hit on this guy.
Because he was almost single-handedly...
Driving them out of their own strongholds, was holding rallies and speeches and converting a lot of people in these working class neighborhoods over to the NSDAP's side.
So they wanted it dead.
And they basically sent this guy, a real reprehensible human being, if that term even applies to him.
Basically a pimp, a petty criminal, a thief, to go and shoot him in his home, which he accomplished.
He went to Horst Vessel's home and basically knocked on the door and shot him when he opened the door.
Vessel survived.
The initial shooting was taken to the hospital and basically died after several days.
Going to see him in the hospital had already become sort of a pilgrimage for the local party.
And after that was basically all but canonized as a martyr in the party.
The song that he wrote to be the Berlin party's sort of anthem became afterwards known as the...
The sort of unofficial national anthem of National Socialist Germany was called the Horstwessel Song.
And then after his death, they held a pretty large funeral procession for him, which was then attacked by the Berlin Communists during the funeral procession and turned into basically a further battle in the streets over Yeah,
I think this is a crucial thing that they did to propagandize an event like this and show how the enemy behaves.
And kind of create this emotional traction towards the movement itself by using an event like this, which is by all means a very unfortunate event, but one that is educationally instructive on what exactly it is that we're dealing with and what we have to fight for.
Again, it really kindles that spirit in a lot of people to hear a story like this and such a tragic end to a story.
I'm curious.
It actually kind of reminds me.
I don't know if you're familiar.
Are you familiar with the Hitler-Junga Quecks?
Are you familiar with that?
I don't believe so.
This is another book that was extremely similar, and it follows the life of a young boy named Hans Steinhof.
This was a book that was written by...
What was his name?
Karl...
Schenzinger, I think it was.
He wrote this work called Der Hitler Jungen Quacks, and he talks about this entire buildup of this young boy who his father was a communist, and he sends this boy off to communist camp,
and the boy ends up meeting a couple national socialist boys when he goes to this camp.
And he loves the way that these guys look.
They're dressed real nice, and they behave really well, and they're telling cultural stories around the campfire.
And he ends up abandoning the communist boys and going over with the National Socialist guys.
And when he comes home, he declares to his father that he's actually a National Socialist now, and he's not a communist anymore.
And his father is infuriated and thinks he's a stupid kid.
He beats the kid for it, and then the kid...
It becomes an even stronger fighter on behalf of the Nazi party at the time.
And through the story, you see a lot of these same exemplifications that we're explaining.
They have a private meeting at one point, and these communists come with guns and start shooting at them and wreck the meeting.
And then when the police come, they only arrest the National Socialist boys, again, really displaying the circumstances of the times.
And then towards the end, there is a tragic fate, and that is that this young kid is assassinated by a couple communist kids.
And it just, again, it displays the exact same story of Horst Vessel, just from a different, we'll say, perspective or a different circumstance.
Because there were many cases like this of people that died for this cause.
It's a very good book, and there's also a film around it, too, which makes it...
Even more palatable for the average person.
I know a lot of people aren't going to read books.
I believe you can probably find the film on Bitchute.
But again, it's Der Hitler-Junga Quex, and it is extremely similar to the case of Horst Vessel.
And not to further discourage people from reading books, but there is also a movie that's made about Horst Vessel, even more specifically.
It's called Hans Vestmar.
Which is just sort of...
I'm actually not sure why they didn't use his real name.
I assume out of some sort of privacy concern for the family or something like that.
But it's Hans Vestmar.
It's W-E-S-T-M-A-R.
And that is a really excellent movie from the time period.
I'm not sure if that's a...
I don't think it's a Riefenstahl film.
Although it might be.
Hans Vestmar.
Who was this?
Oh, it was Franz Wenzler.
Yeah, okay, it wasn't refinished all.
But it's got that quality of Third Reich cinema that's really interesting that I highly recommend to anyone.
It's actually more accessible than you would think.
Especially if you're like me and you grew up with Turner Classic Movies channel on the TV all the time.
It sort of hits that same nostalgic vibe.
Nice.
Yeah, I do really like a lot of the films that came from their era.
It's a lot different than the films that you see today.
There's this kind of spirit that was very present in a lot of their films.
I'm curious to maybe move forward a little bit.
Was there any specific pieces of the work that stood out to you that you wanted to discuss and bring up?
Well, you know, I really think it's something where you have to get the whole picture before it starts to make sense and to matter to you.
I think what's important about a book like this, it's not too long, it's not too dense, it's got enough of Goebbels sort of narrating through it that...
It's very easy to digest and he'll explain things very succinctly.
But really, I think the core message of a book like this is success requires sacrifice and it requires not only sacrifice, but persistence and discretion and just a certain attitude towards life,
a certain kind of fatalism.
A certain kind of even hero worship, as in the case of guys like Horst Vessel, that really is a precondition to success in an endeavor as big as that one or as the one that we face today.
Absolutely.
So, I guess maybe the Go to another piece of the work that I thought was quite interesting was how Goebbels came to meet Hans Schweitzer, who went under the pseudonym Mjolnir.
I'm probably pronouncing that wrong.
You might know better.
Mjolnir.
Okay, not bad.
Thank you.
I'm glad I didn't do too bad.
So this was a...
Essentially one of their head propagandists who made a lot of posters and different artist sketches of a young man in an SA uniform bearing the National Socialist flag,
shedding his blood for the cause.
Goebbels speaks very highly of this character and kind of talking about how crucial his role was as a propagandist in being able to get people excited about this cause
or kind of pull some interest in the direction of National Socialism.
I'm curious, do you know much about the background of Mjolnir?
I don't know much other than what maybe Goebbels lays out in the work itself.
Yeah, I actually knew nothing about this guy before I worked on and read through this book.
Which I thought that was very interesting.
It's just a really overlooked piece of Third Reich history, sort of how influential this guy was.
And for everyone out there listening, it's basically, if you imagine to yourself a National Socialist propaganda poster, the image that you have in your head is this guy's art.
Like, he was basically the one who set the style that they used, which is really interesting.
Just this one basically sketch artist in the Berlin party kind of was the mastermind behind that.
But yeah, no, I had no idea that this was like one guy's sort of private endeavor before I read this book.
Yeah, I learned that as well.
And I think, again, it just displays something that's so...
Necessary for us today.
We have no propaganda coming out.
Unfortunately, we can argue that meme culture is propaganda, and there is probably some truth to that statement.
The issue is that the meme stuff, it doesn't kind of excite people.
It kind of boils down to two things.
Humor or comedy.
That's a good way to do things because it normalizes some of these things for people.
Then the other side is you get these infographs that are 80 different facts about Jewish power or something like that.
The average person is not going to read that.
It doesn't awaken a spirit of a fighting spirit in people when they read something like that or they see a meme that It's just kind of laughable.
I actually think it probably does the opposite, right?
When you use a meme that is humorous, I think what happens is that humor, it kind of makes these things more comfortable.
And when they're comfortable, I think that's the opposite of awakening, a fighting spirit in people is when they feel comfortable about something.
They kind of just become complacent in what's going on and they end up sitting on Twitter all day sharing memes about...
Jewish power, you know, some Mel Gibson thing or, you know, something about the Holocaust or something.
But this kind of propaganda that they were using, specifically Mjolnir, when you look at these posters and these different variations of the essay man, instead of being comedic and kind of making people comfortable with a situation,
it gives people this This archetype of a character to strive to be as an individual, right?
As a person, when you see this young man kind of bearing this flag and he looks like a fighter, he looks like a man who's struggled to gain some kind of reputation or nobility amongst himself, I think that really encourages young men to want to emulate that.
They want to be a fighter.
That is praised in that same fashion.
Think back to Greek architecture and sculptures.
In ancient Greece, all of these sculptures that you see of the thinker or all these different characters that have existed in all of European culture, these are sculptures that emulate an archetype that people want to achieve.
They want to become something like that.
It gives them something to aspire towards.
And I think Mjolnir kind of did a very good job in his propaganda doing exactly that.
This is something that is super lacking today is giving people some kind of an archetype to show.
Yeah, I would generally agree.
I do think, and I think Goebbels makes some good points, actually, in favor of the comedic type of propaganda.
But I will say that the inspirational and the more I don't know the proper term.
This more romantic view of honor and bravery and self-sacrifice is at least equally important.
And you're 100% right that we don't have a whole lot of that going around right now.
The National Socialists, on the other hand, were masters of that.
I think part of that comes from a specifically German sort of cultural universe.
At that time, they're still in the wake of the Romanticist period and Wagner and all that sort of thing.
The championing of the fighting man in the aftermath of the First World War, all of which sort of helps their The cultural place of a warrior to be put in the forefront.
But regardless as to the reasons why, yeah, you're correct that we need a lot more of that.
There are definitely a lot of people who will laugh at this sort of stuff and not a whole lot who will sacrifice something in a spirit of genuine heroism.
In order to act on the things that they know would be right.
Yeah, and I think this comes, again, from that lack of, you know, this image to strive for to do that, right?
Like, there's not a lot of modern examples that people have that they want to emulate their behaviors, right?
Like, even people that have been amazing fighters for our cause.
Over the years in the United States, think about a guy like David Duke, as an example.
He was just on my show a week ago, and we were talking about he's been adequately smeared by the media for years and years and years, and we don't have any of our own quote-unquote media that praises him or puts him in this light or this image that That makes you want to strive to be like that.
Now, I will say, they have done this, or we have done this, rather, with some figures.
But the problem is we tend to do this with people that are gone.
There's a lot of imagery and different propaganda pieces, little edits and clips that venerate Hitler and put him in this extremely prophetic light of something that people want to strive to be.
But that's like...
First off, this is egregious to ever think that anybody's going to be on that scale.
This is like a once-in-a-lifetime kind of a human being, or once-in-a-generation, rather.
Maybe we've got George Lincoln Rockwell.
There's a lot of edits around him that kind of do this same thing.
But I personally, maybe I'm wrong, but I can't think of a single example of somebody that is alive today that has been persecuted and has been a strong fighter for this cause.
That there is some kind of propaganda around them that creates that spirit of like, this is a fighter and this is something to follow.
I don't think it exists.
I can't think of any personal examples myself.
Yeah, well, it's certainly a more cynical age and I would also argue that the internet almost makes that inevitable.
It's much easier to pick apart someone's personal life and sort of de-heroize them in that way.
Even people who are genuinely perhaps deserving of the title.
I think really, though, the other thing that you have to keep in mind is that someone like Horace Vessel He was a normal guy.
His one real virtue was just bravery over everything else, which is a little bit different than lionizing someone who's a real political leader, someone who is an ideologue, someone who sort of holds themselves...
from the mass of common people and even common followers.
Horst Vessel wasn't anyone exceptional in his private life.
He was just a brave man who stepped up for his people.
And that's sort of what makes him uniquely worthy of being made a hero.
I'm not sure that we'll be able to have heroes like that until...
We have people who fight like he did.
And that strikes me as something that's sort of in present conditions is at least not happening right now.
We got sort of close to that in the chaos of the 2016 era.
And conservatives will have theirs with many of the J6ers.
But it does sort of require a different paradigm around politics.
As things have sort of been re-normalized, it's gotten less and less possible for someone to become a hero like that.
That is true.
And I think the January 6th are actually a good example.
Actually, a really sound example.
They're not necessarily fighting for our cause, so to speak, but they are just normal Americans who are fed up with the bullshit that they're going through.
They might not have the political revolutionary fervor of someone like yourself or I, but they are at least agitated.
They're fed up, and they just want to live a better lifestyle.
And I think that, what do they call him?
The MAGA shaman or whatever the hell he was.
He was a very good example.
I think he did a service by dressing himself up in such a goofy attire because that was something that was really easy to propagandize and bring a lot of public controversy about.
Sure.
And even there...
One of the differences between them and someone like Horst Vessel is that Horst Vessel went back out and sort of took similar levels of risk to life and limb every day, pretty much, and just kept going back out and was attacked multiple times before they eventually got fed up with him and just decided to assassinate him.
And currently, as much as some things I mean,
there may be a few that I'm simply forgetting in the moment.
Would be more deserving of such a title, but it would be hard to find one that is maybe universally admired across the right.
Yeah, I think, and that's maybe one of the issues that we have, is I feel like nothing on the right is universal.
No figure is universal, no...
No character or archetype is universal.
We're very scattered, which kind of makes things a little more difficult.
Yeah, absolutely.
And to sort of bring it back to the book, you see through this that, well, they were back then, too.
The right in the 20s in Germany was totally scattered between different factions.
Some of them were monarchists.
You had sort of military cliques and reactionaries.
You had, like, Hugenberg's guys.
You had, like, the Black Rites Fair, a bunch of conspirators in the reduced post-war military.
And then you had the NSDAP.
And there was no reason to believe at the outset that they were going to be sort of the sole power and unite the right, if you will.
Even when you look to the Beer Hall Putsch, Hitler may have been sort of the most gung-ho of the conspirators in that, but the whole plan relied on all of these other forces.
And I go from that to 10 years later, dominating the entire...
It's largely because of their emphasis on political education, their emphasis on going directly to the masses, and their ability to inspire and be inspired by guys like Goebbels and Horst Wessel and others who really just marched.
straight into the gates of hell in some of these communist dominated neighborhoods of Berlin and were just willing to get the crap kicked out of them over and over again until they won.
Right.
I wanted to bring up...
Let me pull it in here, see if I can find the exact page.
I know it's pretty early in the book, but...
Goebbels talks about this...
Let me see if I can find
I thought I had this one dog-eared, but it looks like I don't have it dog-eared.
It's a shame I'm a little disorganized here, but in the beginning of the book, he talks about this...
Sorry, bear with me.
I'm trying to find this.
I'll bear with you.
While you're looking for that, I just wanted to mention, even at the very start, the very outset of the book mentions that Goebbels was not originally...
Either from Berlin or part of the Berlin cadre that they had.
He originally was part of the Rhineland area of operations of the party.
He led them there.
The Rhineland, for those who don't know, is the most industrially developed area of Germany.
The labor union movement was very strong there.
He had basically succeeded in Getting the industrial working class there on the side of the NSDAP, to a large extent.
Probably not an absolute majority, but they've been very successful.
And one of the things that he notes there that made it different from Berlin is that in that region, most of the industrial laborers were the first or second generation sons of Farmers and smallholders who were from that region.
And so there was much more of a sort of both local and national feeling among those groups of people that made it much, much easier to appeal to them as Germans, as sons of the fatherland,
as people who were amenable to the sort of pride in place and in history.
That they felt that they were entitled to.
Whereas in Berlin, being much more cosmopolitan, he had to sort of totally relearn how to appeal to the people there.
I think that's just another relevant note on how to be good at propaganda.
Learning to speak to different groups of people in different ways.
Not to lie to them, to tell the same story, but to relate to them on their own terms and to understand them.
Yeah, I think that's crucial.
You know, this is something that we have to kind of adopt today is we have a lot of people that they wake up to these issues, they kind of formulate themselves a worldview around it, and after they've done such,
they kind of just assume that everybody else is already on that same playing field, right?
They assume that they've got the same knowledge or the same educational background about these things.
And they kind of want to come to a...
I made this mistake myself, by the way, when I first woke up to all of this and I first read Mein Kampf and started learning about how much these people have influence over our society.
And I go to my family and I'm like, oh my God, I'm like...
Just so excited to tell everybody about this after learning something so crucially important.
And I go and I tell everybody and I was pushing too fast and I was pushing on topics that people probably weren't ready for or weren't accustomed to.
I went to a liberal grandfather of mine and I was telling him about the Holocaust and things like this.
Obviously, it's not a very productive way of going about these things.
This is a problem that I think we still have in our circles.
You know, a lot of people want to just, they pick up these things and they just want to go tell people about the Holocaust or go tell people, like, Hitler was the greatest guy ever.
And it's like, well, look, you know, there's a case for that.
But there's a way that you have to explain this to people.
There's a way that you have to come to someone, you know, meet a Republican that is against the transgender agenda, right?
And tell them about...
What was happening in World War II with the book burnings prior to the serious rise of the NSDAP and talked to them about how these people were doing the same thing over there that they do here now.
And this will plant that seed of interest in the minds of the average person.
Now, I think it's a little bit harder when you're speaking to someone that's a little more on the left wing and they've got themselves in this kind of liberal camp.
Find a decent starting point.
But I think there's some to be said about talking about capitalism or something of the sort.
Because these people inherently hate this usurious capitalistic system.
They just don't recognize, or maybe they refuse to recognize, that it's Jewish in essence, right?
Sure, yeah.
One of the terms that someone...
I was discussing what happens when people first figure this stuff out, and someone used the term red pill Tourette's to describe what people do when they first learn about it,
which is just blurted out to anyone and everyone, not thinking about how that person is going to receive what you're saying.
But I think I'm even getting to something that's...
Maybe on another level deeper than that, which is that, I mean, especially in a country like the United States, this country is so huge, and it does have, in certain ways, a cohesive culture, but the more that you learn about people from different regions,
there are just very different ways of...
of interacting with the world that people have based on where they're from, based on their economic class.
Even, let's say, you get a million conservatives from different areas of the country and from different backgrounds.
They're all going to have slightly different ways that they see the world based on who they are or where they're from.
And that's something that any nascent political movement has to really start figuring out.
Of course, I think the best way is to have local leaders who are from the places where they're trying to get a foothold.
But it helps for even people who have broader national ambitions or who are sort of ideological leaders on that broader plane to reach out
to different groups of people.
Because the tendency that anyone has doesn't matter whether they are a national socialist or conservative or a liberal or a libertarian, whatever.
Everyone has the tendency to really just appeal to people who are already like them in some way.
Goebbels is interesting, of course, because he's probably one of the few people who just had a natural knack for that.
I think it's really interesting to read his thoughts on how to do that in this book.
It's something that most people don't really think about.
Most people sort of unconsciously assume that the people that they're talking to are going to have a similar set of experiences and assumptions to them.
Yeah, that's a very important piece, is being able to understand the broadness of the different mindsets that exist.
You bring up a good point about America, too.
This is something that we have to recognize today.
Germany is the size of Texas.
So for them to create a cultural revolution in a place so small with, don't get me wrong, they had a pretty large population, but a place that's that small, landmass-wise, it's a lot easier to kind of foment social change when you have people Marching in the streets in one city,
word gets around quite quickly when you're in such a small area.
Think about them marching in Dallas.
It's pretty likely that word's going to get around Texas pretty quickly, but that doesn't mean that people in Nebraska or North Dakota have heard about it.
We have such a different circumstance geographically, which kind of adds back to that point of, Absolutely.
I think, you know, in certain ways...
America is a smaller place than the map would suggest, and that sort of goes to the fact that most settlement in the United States took place in an era of much better communications.
Germany is small on a map, but the cultural differences between, say, Bavaria and Saxony are a lot deeper than are the differences between, let's say, Arizona And Montana.
People in U.S. states, even ones that are separated from each other by greater distances, tends to follow more of a unified culture just due to radio, television, railroads, all the sort of technological aids that make the world a smaller place.
But nevertheless, there are huge differences.
The most obvious being the North and South difference.
And I have been encouraged recently by the fact that that divide, at least for nationalists, that used to be huge.
Sort of Northern and Southern nationalists in the U.S. didn't really used to see eye to eye.
But recently, that seems to have been improving.
I went to an event in South Carolina not too long ago that was hosted mostly by Southern nationalists, and there was a big effort to sort of have more dialogue with Yankees like myself that I found really encouraging.
And that's sort of going to what I'm suggesting about Goebbels' unique talent.
We've got to remember, too, there was a big cultural divide in Germany just between North and South, and the NSDAP was seen as a Bavarian movement.
That's where it started.
That's where its strongest base of support was.
And you had a lot of cynicism among the culturally different North Germans in Berlin and Brandenburg and other places who sort of viewed it that way.
They viewed it as a Bavarian movement.
That had no place in their sort of cultural political spheres.
But they were able to overcome that by basically having, well, just by being smart, by understanding the culture of the people that they were talking to, by having those sort of pan-German inspirations that crossed that divide.
Yeah, I want to transition to...
I was not able to find the spot.
I really thought I had a dog-eared, but I can't find the exact spot to drive a quote.
But there's this concept, and it's in the beginning of the book.
And this is something that I think makes this book almost like a black pill diffuser, where he talks about all of the people in the...
In the SA and these different groups that existed, how much personal squabbles played a very serious part in the game, right?
As they're trying to rise to power, when Goebbels first goes to Berlin and starts doing things there, he realizes that all of these people have these petty personal disputes, and it makes it so hard for them to do anything cohesively and move from one spot to another.
And I think that's kind of something that we struggle with today, whether it's you look at the Groyper scene or the quote-unquote, you know, Wignat scene or whatever you would like to call them.
And then there's kind of more of this middle ground.
And these people are constantly, you know, attacking each other over personal views or theology or dogma or things of that sort.
And I think it was really interesting to read Goebbels explaining that...
This was something that was present then.
That was something that they had to get a handle on and control.
And sometimes when you see how vitriolic these things are, these little petty disputes, in our circumstance, it seems like it's not something that can ever be overcome, which is very blackpilling when you live that experience quite often.
But then to read that this is something that they dealt with in their time period, and obviously if they came to power, they overcame that.
I thought that was something that was kind of a relaxant and maybe a little bit uplifting to read because that is certainly a very large problem in our circles today, which again just shows how similar our struggle is to exactly what they were experiencing.
Absolutely.
There's a term that he uses.
Basically, when he arrives in Berlin, he goes on this sort of tour of the local party chapters to get the lay of the land, and he describes a lot of them as little more than patriotic bowling clubs, in that they are ostensibly party organizations,
but all they really seem to do is get together to go hang out, go bowling, go drink together.
And he basically says, well, of course, A, that's not good enough, and B, that sort of environment lends itself naturally to just creating petty disputes, just really to have something to do, to argue with each other.
Idle hands and all that, right?
And he sort of knows when he first shows up that he feels like he's powerless to really do anything about it, because he's this outsider who's...
Just showed up yesterday.
He doesn't have any real authority.
He can't compel people to follow his dictates.
But the way that he overcomes this is basically by showing his own bravery.
He shows up and basically immediately is venturing into enemy territory to hold rallies and speeches.
Having beer mugs thrown at him and this, that, and the other thing.
And basically wins the respect of the people there by showing that he's not just all talk.
He shows up and he walks the walk.
And with that sort of under his belt, with the respect that he's earned, he's then able to compel people to really follow him.
And it shows you, of course, a very timeless and essential lesson about leadership.
And especially of leadership in the kind of circumstance where you don't really have any genuine assertions.
If you're a leader in some sort of right-wing political outfit, you basically de facto have no authority to enforce anything.
Rarely are going to be able to pay people and to hold that over them.
You aren't going to have a court on your side or anything like that to enforce contracts most of the time.
Really, the only thing left for you to do is to lead by example.
It becomes pretty readily apparent pretty quickly who is and who isn't capable of leading by example.
Yeah, and that's another piece maybe to discuss as well.
You brought up the financial aspect, right?
Because this is a big problem.
This is discussed in Mein Kampf pretty thoroughly that a lot of people, they view societal struggle or progress almost purely through an economic lens, right?
How well are we doing financially as not only a country but as an individual?
That's kind of how they view their struggles.
And that's what they're motivated by.
So, as you said, in these movements, when you're naturally in a revolutionary movement where you become a social outcast and it's much harder to get your hand on finances through conventional means, it's not like we just have money to hire people to be a part of an organization or pay them a monthly wage to be a part of an organization.
So that incentive is almost entirely missing, which is where we go to.
Goebbels explains in this book that they did a door fee at rallies and they had maybe like a membership fee that they were charging people to be a part of things.
So it was actually the contrary.
It wasn't that they were giving people money as an incentive.
The people had to give them money to be a part of something like this, to involve themselves in it.
I think that's an interesting dynamic that we have maybe a tough time with today because most of the things that garner finances from revolutionaries in the modern age is a content creator or something like myself who has their own show where they educate people on things or they talk about things.
This garners a lot of finances.
There's not really a lot of funding for movements or organizations, right?
That's kind of a big thing that we need to start pooling.
And that's, again, what they did.
I think he describes pretty well in the book that they were pooling resources from members, from people that were taking interest in the ideas themselves.
And then those resources were then channeled into greater projects or things that were...
Yeah, absolutely.
And I'll say this as well.
When you look at sort of the problems that the Berlin party faced, when you look at the scale of it, you're talking about actually very small-scale stuff, problems that are difficult to solve but that are within the power of a handful of motivated and intelligent people to do.
And that, I think, is a really important realization.
Because if you don't know, if you haven't read a story like this, or an account of how something like this worked, all you see is the rise of this immensely powerful party in Germany that succeeds in taking control of the government of the country and transforming it in this new radical way.
And the average person looks at that as something that might as well be the work of a demigod, rather than something that they would be capable of doing themselves, or at least contributing to in a meaningful way themselves.
When you read something like Battle for Berlin, you really do have to think, well, that's something that I could do.
This isn't impossible.
These people weren't demigods.
They were...
This is not an impossibility.
This is something that we can take upon ourselves to do.
That's a hugely important realization for most people, I think.
To understand that the problems that these guys were facing and that they had to overcome to get to where they were.
Right.
So, I'm curious for the, maybe to encourage someone who's listening in and has not yet read the book or might be on the fence if it's something that interests them or would be up their alley.
What is something that you would say is a major takeaway or reason to read this book?
Discussed in the beginning of the show, we talked about how it relates to today, to really format what they were going through then and see how they overcame that, how prescient that is for us today.
What is maybe a major reason or a motivation that you would give to somebody in the audience to pick up a book like this and try to actually read and study this for themselves?
Well, the first reason I would say is that reading is good for your mind, and you should put down your phone that you probably spend hours every day on and pick up something that's not going to rot your brain.
And for that reason, I think I recommend not only this book, but our entire catalog at Antelope Hill.
Reading's good for you, and no one does it anymore, so be better than the society of brain-dead zombies that we have.
The second reason, and more specifically to this book, is that we need people who are inspired.
We need people who are brave.
We need people who are dedicated.
And being a part of that is one of the most important things you can do with your life.
And if you're looking for inspiration to become that kind of person and to be a leader in your community and to make a difference, then a book like this is a great place to start.
It's a great place to see.
How people in the past dealt with the same kind of problems that you're going to face.
And for that reason, I think there are few better books that you could read.
Yeah, I would certainly agree.
Again, this was a book that I definitely would put in my top five for all of my reads just to really put yourself in the shoes that they were in, which we are.
I mean, we physically are in those shoes.
But to kind of psychologically put yourself there and recognize how they were able to overcome this.
So I'm curious, is there any other specific pieces of the work that interested you or kind of grabbed your attention that you wanted to discuss?
Well, let me think.
I think the...
One of the things that I want to tell people about this book is definitely that the pictures in it are really great.
There's a lot of historical pictures, including stuff that I've never seen anywhere else before we picked up the original copy for this.
There's a lot of these sketches by Mjolnir that we already talked about.
And there's also a collection of caricatures of...
The Berlin police vice commandant or whatever his official rank was.
But basically the guy who was leading the Berlin police's persecution of the NSDAP.
The guy's name was Bernard Weiss.
They started calling him Isidore for some reason.
Koval says he's not actually sure how that nickname got started, but it stuck.
And he was Jewish.
He had a quite unfortunate appearance that was very easily caricatured.
They have this whole collection of works that they published basically just mocking him.
The thing that I think is interesting about this, besides just the caricatures being very funny, is the way that they used this kind of humor as a weapon.
Old Isidore was very much bothered by the way that they portrayed him through caricature and the way they used this humor, which is one of the reasons why I wanted to slightly push back on what you said earlier about the use of comedy.
It is a very useful weapon.
I think we need to go beyond it, and you identified accurately some problems with it.
But in this case, when they figured out that they were able to get under this guy's skin, I think we saw something similar recently with everything going on with Elon and Vivek over that whole H-1B thing,
for lack of a better term.
Vivek went out there saying that Americans are too stupid to work.
We need a million Indian H-1B workers to make our economy function.
And people started basically just ruthlessly mocking him and Elon on Twitter.
And Elon had his whole meltdown and freaked out.
That is a great example of a way to tactically deploy mockery and humor that really worked out in a big way and made them sort of back down off of
that issue.
Yes.
Well, I have exhausted my notes rather quickly.
I wasn't expecting to go through them that fast on my end.
I don't really have much more to add on the work.
Maybe if you're comfortable, we can...
Conclude maybe some closing statements on the book and some encouragements and then maybe promote the work and Antelope Hill and close up here?
Sure.
I have an idea briefly, actually.
Maybe if I could ask a question of you, if there's anything in Antelope Hill's catalog that you are interested in reading next.
Oh, yes.
Well, definitely.
I actually, I have a work.
Let me grab it off my shelf really quickly.
One second.
Sure. Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, I'm back.
So this work has very much interested me.
I haven't started it yet because, so I have...
I obviously read Battle for Berlin, and I have the autobiographies of Horst Vessel, which is also on the site.
But I want to read that before I read this book, because it's just so in connection with Battle for Berlin, kind of on the same page.
Obviously, Horst Vessel is discussed in that work.
But I have this book, A New Nobility of Blood and Soil.
And this sounds...
It's absurdly interesting to me.
This is definitely right up my alley.
Do you want me to actually read the back of the book for the audience?
I think that would be...
Sure, if you would.
I do think it's definitely right up your alley.
Like you said, it's more of that dense philosophical work.
But yeah, have at it.
For the audience that's not familiar, this is another book recommendation.
This can also be found on Antelope Hill, and we'll tell you guys where you can...
Go to Antelope Hill and get these books in just a moment.
But this is a work on there called A New Nobility of Blood and Soil.
And the foreword is actually, interestingly enough, by Warren Bailow.
For those who aren't familiar, he was working with the NJP for quite some time.
A very interesting man.
I would recommend if you're not familiar with him, you check him out as well.
And this is the back of the book.
It states, fearsome and provocative.
The slogan, blood and soil, speaks to the interplay between the land and the people on it.
The power of a land to shape a people and the power of a people to shape a land.
Richard Walther, Dara, and Obergruppenführer in the SS was the leading blood and soil ideologist of Germany and served his people as Reich Minister of Food and Agriculture.
This book, A New Nobility of Blood and Soil, was massively popular in the Third Reich and led to a strengthening of the agrarian and agriculturist movements.
Highly influential on Hitler, the principles in this book are foundational to the National Socialist worldview.
This worldview held that Germany's natural elite, its nobility of blood and soil, was the nation's last hope against both the rapacious elite of capitalist wealth and the degenerate elite of ancient privilege.
The hardworking and industrious peasant, who has no other country to call home, no riches with which to escape his duties, no international connections with which to deracinate himself, is the truly national man.
His country is everything to him, and he is everything to his country, for it is on his back and by his sweat that his country is built.
Thus, only from such a class of people can a new nobility arise that can combat the deprivations of the modern world with its polluted rivers, childless marriages, and the asphalt culture of city life.
With no English language edition available, this essential text has been unknown to modern dissidents for far too long.
Antelope Hill Publishing is proud to present, for the first time in English, a new nobility of blood and soil.
Laborously translated by Augusto Salon and Julius Sylvester.
This book is important to the preservation and contextualization of history.
Now, I think the reason that this interests me so much is blood and soil as a concept is something that, well, first off, people don't really understand what it exactly means.
But as a concept, it is this racialist kind of a doctrine.
It's a real racialist doctrine, right?
What people have to recognize is that every group of people throughout all human history, and it's not just the European white man, but all civilizations, even Asiatic civilizations, Arabic civilizations, a people arises with its country.
And its country is the soil that the people is built upon.
And they create this kind of spiritual essence of what exactly their people is.
And this is where we get to The Jewish problem, in essence, and what the problem has been for 2,000 plus years is that Jews have never played that game.
They don't play the rules of the rest of humanity.
They're not built upon a soil.
There are people that is not connected to a soil, and therefore they don't have this intrinsic longing for the benefit of the architecture and the agriculture and the country itself, but rather for their people only.
And that's where this conflict has always arisen throughout, you know, what, centuries and centuries, where they have, you know, become a pest on the nation that they reside in and they get removed and all these other conflicts, pogroms, things like this that arise, is a reaction to them essentially not playing the rules of the rest of humanity's game.
Yeah, and I think Dara is very interesting in the sort of...
Uniting of older and newer strains of thought in the way that he discusses agrarianism.
Because you have this long tradition in Germany, and especially in Germany east of the Elba, with the sort of aristocratic landowning class.
There is this sort of Wilhelmin agrarian lobby in East Germany that was very powerful.
Of course, they lost a lot of their lands in the Versailles Treaty around Posen and West Prussia.
Which was, well, contributed to the sort of gradual dispossession of that landowning class.
But Dara talks less in that way.
He's less an aristocrat and more a defender of the common peasantry, as the name of the book would suggest.
and really goes in depth on sort of,
Where does it come from?
How is it formed?
And really draws a distinction between the sort of artificial culture of the urban centers and the really rooted culture of sort of rural life in a way that I think is very useful for Americans to consider.
It sort of goes back to what I was talking about with Differing cultures between different regions of this country.
There is sort of this overarching national culture in America that's really built off of communications infrastructure.
It's really built off of the radio and the television and the newspaper and the ease of travel.
Certain sort of more superficial things that we all have in common.
But you look under the hood a little bit and you start considering cultures in the way that Daria describes them.
And you start realizing how much difference there really is based on geography, based on people's relationship to the land that is built up over time, that is deeper, that doesn't just change because of national broadcasting.
And in fact, in most ways, it's superior to that kind of more superficial culture.
But anyways, yeah, it's definitely a very interesting book.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts on it after you finish it, because like you said, I think that book is more your style in terms of the way that you like to deal with the deeper philosophical issues.
Certainly, well, I mean, if you very much want to hear my thoughts, we could always do a show on that book as well, if you'd like.
Yeah, I'd be happy to.
Okay, well, we can do that then.
And we also have...
Hang on, let me...
Where...
Oh, that's right.
We're not done with it yet.
So there is another Dare book that is in the works.
I won't tell you what it is yet.
That's a trade secret.
But when it does come out, maybe I could interest you in that one as well.
Okay, I would definitely be happy to take a look at it.
All right.
Well, I think that kind of wraps it up for me.
I was just happy to hear your thoughts on that as well.
Yeah, that's a good spot to conclude.
And again, I really want to recommend that everybody take the time to read Battle for Berlin, especially if you live in this society today and maybe sometimes you think...
Oh, shit.
It's hopeless.
We're in such a bad situation.
And we are.
Don't get me wrong.
This is a terrible situation that we find ourselves in.
But when you realize that this is a situation that's existed before in history, it's not the end of the world.
This is something that can be overcome, and it has been overcome.
You want to read the blueprint to overcome it.
Obviously, I always promote Mein Kampf as a blueprint for that.
But Battle for Berlin is also equally a very solid blueprint for this.
On the way out, I do want to promote Antelope Hill Publishing, and I want to thank Kurt and the gentleman over at Antelope Hill for providing me with some of these works to give to you guys and educate other people on it and spread the word about.
So let me actually see.
I can share my screen here, and I'll show you guys Antelope Hill itself, so you guys can check it out yourselves.
You should be able to see that, I hope.
So this is Antelope Hill Publishing.
Very simple spelling up at the top here, all one word.
.com.
This is their website.
As you can see, Battle for Berlin is right here up in the featured page.
They have got a plethora of works.
I am, as you guys know, partnered with other book companies who have maybe a dozen or two.
This is far more works here.
They have fiction, they have nonfiction, Christian literature, fascist literature, national socialist literature.
You name it.
And when you go to get a book, so let's say we wanted to get ourselves a copy of Battle for Berlin.
You're going to click on Battle for Berlin.
My computer is dogshit, so you're going to sit here and watch the loading screen for a little.
There you go.
So I have a hardcover for myself.
So you'll add it to the cart, and you get your cart up top here.
You can continue to shop around and look for other things if you'd like.
But let's say we just wanted to get Battle for Berlin.
You go to checkout here.
And you type in your information, you know, fill everything out.
And right here, you're going to get prompted with a coupon code on the far right side here.
My coupon code is LOGOS, L-O-G-O-S.
And when you type that coupon code in and apply it, you'll save yourself 10% on your order when you check out.
So make sure that if you do get something over here, that you take the time to do that, as you can see.
Got yourself a little discount there.
So make sure that you guys do that when you check out.
If you are going to get something on Antelope Hill, save yourself a couple dollars and use my coupon code LOGOSLOGOS and you guys can get a lot of very good works on there.
And feel free to get yourself a copy of New Nobility of Blood and Soil, which again we'll probably be reviewing in the near future as well.
Alright, and if I can just steal another minute of time here to kind of show a little bit more.
For those of you who maybe already know about us, have a lot of books from us, we have a new release that I want to promote a little bit.
It's Intolerance Interpretations by Josh Neal, which is by a psychologist.
He, in this book, is essentially doing an examination of the effects of sort of low-trust society of suspicion on Sort of conspiratorialism and conspiracy theorists in modern America.
Very interesting book.
Definitely something you'd be interested in if you're more perhaps technically minded, if you want to really dig deep into what's going on with modern man, what's going on with the sort of constant low-level psychological warfare of modern society.
I also want to mention, for those who might be interested by it, we don't just do historical or philosophical works.
We also have fiction, and we also have children's books, a sort of growing catalog of both of those things.
The fiction books are all original authors.
They're people who came to us to get published, and we liked what they had and decided to go ahead with it.
And the children's books also, some really excellent selections in there.
The last thing that I want to mention about Antelope Hill and what we're doing, for the past several years, we've run a yearly writing competition.
And we currently have one up.
The theme is, if not us, who?
And we accept both prose and poetry categories for that.
So if that's something that any of you are interested in, Please submit something.
We always love to see the submissions from the public on this, and every year we get some really good ones.
There are two prizes in each category.
The winner of each category gets $600, and the runner-up gets $400.
So if you're confident in your abilities, you can even make a little bit of money here.
Also, with those writing submissions, We'll take the ones that we like the most, and Everyone's Accepted goes in a book that we publish of all the submissions every year.
If you're interested in that as well, you can go and check out any of the past year's writing competition books.
I very much enjoy them, and I'm sure that many of you will as well.
All right.
Thank you, Kurt, for coming on.
This was a fantastic discussion, and a friendly reminder, folks, if you are listening in, Don't only support Antelope Hills, support me and my work.
Share my stuff around.
If you like this show, anything that we're doing over here, make sure that you share it over on your social pages.
Show friends and family.
Maybe you have a friend who's black-pilled on these subjects and would be very interested in hearing about Battle for Berlin.
It might be a helpful book for them.
Make sure that you guys share this stuff around.
Post this broadcast wherever you'd like.
And with that said, I think we'll close up here.
We're a little bit early, but not too much.
And thank you again, Kurt, for coming on.
I'm looking forward to having you on to discuss a new nobility of blood and soil in the future once I get through that book as well.
Absolutely.
Thanks so much for having me.
Of course.
My pleasure.
All right.
Thank you again, folks, for watching.
And we'll see you guys Friday.
We're actually going to be joined by...
Justin Barrett.
He is an Irish nationalist.
I'm sure you guys might be familiar with him, but if you're not, he's an interesting character.
I'll see you guys at 4 p.m. Eastern on Friday with him joining us.
Thanks again, folks.
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