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President Donald Trump would be talking with the Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin.
On the phone today, that conversation did take place, and so we're going to get to that here in just a minute, but we've got a lot to get to.
Just incredible what's going on right now in the world, and a lot of it, quite frankly, is not good.
Just in terms, I mean, if you're somebody who doesn't want war, and you want peace, and you don't want new wars, or you don't want the United States to get dragged into another forever war, I think it's...
Just me personally, as I'm reading the headlines last night as I'm going to bed, I mean, it's discouraging.
There's no way around it.
I didn't vote for new wars, and as we are engaging the Houthis in Yemen, and the Israel-Gaza ceasefire is now over, and bombs are being dropped now, and we're sending aircraft carriers, according to some reports I saw.
Of course, one of those tweets was deleted, but the idea that aircraft carriers were moving towards Iran.
And so this was my question, and it has been for a while, and I asked it yesterday on the program.
I know that the United States government, according to Rubio, according to Trump, they have said they want to normalize relations with Russia.
They want to normalize relations with Russia, which is obviously, you know, that makes the left seethe, right?
And it's very ironic, too, when you think about how...
You know, 30 years ago.
It's like the people who were not worried about the communist Soviets are now worried about Russia when they're not.
Anyway, but my question is this.
How do you normalize relations with Russia and go to war with Iran?
Because the Russians back Iran, so how exactly...
Is that going to happen?
Okay?
And so I'm worried because I don't want more war.
I don't want more U.S. soldiers dying in the Middle East.
I don't want that.
I don't think Trump voters want that either and voted for that.
And then there's this debate over, okay, well, is it going to be a new war or is it going to be peace through strength or, you know, bomb people back to the Stone Age and go home?
Or is it going to be, you know, similar to Trump in his first term who didn't start any new wars, but he did bomb Syria a few times to appease people like Lindsey Graham?
I don't know.
But I'm very worried and discouraged by it, by all of it right now.
First up, let's go to, let's see, so Eric Daughtry, he posted this.
President Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin have been on the phone for around an hour and a half.
The White House says this, of course, was 10.33 Central time.
And then we have a little Fox News coverage of it.
Here is what it sounded like.
This is a social media post from Fox News stating that President Trump and Russian President Putin...
are currently speaking on the phone about ending the war in Ukraine after President Trump's statement that "melly elements of a deal to end the conflict" Okay,
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Charlie Kirk is reporting that the conversation was 90 minutes.
They discussed many elements of a peace deal with Ukraine.
And then this, he reports this, that a Russian government official stated after the call, quote, Now, if that's true,
I mean, that's a very promising sign.
Again, though, my question is, How exactly do you normalize?
I wonder if they talked about Yemen.
I wonder if they talked about the West Bank.
I wonder if they talked about Gaza.
I wonder if they talked about Russia's allied with Iran versus now we have so many people in the president's ear and the president himself.
Warning, blaming, saying that because Iran arms the Houthis, everything the Houthis do from now on is going to be considered a direct act by Iran.
So we're having this very strong war-like posture, looking like we're going to go to war with Iran.
So how do you exactly know?
I just want somebody to answer that question, somebody that knows a lot more than me.
Is it just a hypocrisy or a contradiction that we just have to live with?
Is Russia all of a sudden okay with the United States engaging in a direct war with Iran?
Is Russia going to be okay with the United States doing what Lindsey Graham wants to do, which is to bomb Iran's oil fields or take out their nuclear capabilities?
And I will remind you, on this program last week, we played the clip from Colonel Douglas McGregor as he was interviewed on Tucker Carlson's podcast saying that...
If a war pops off here, you actually have the United States, according to Douglas McGregor, the United States missiles and ammunition will be depleted in as little as two weeks, or maybe as little as ten days, but at the most,
two weeks worth of ammunition.
Which, I'd never heard that before.
That's wild to think about, that we're that grossly underprepared.
And in the American mind, we think of Iran as not a strong military power, but that's because we're propagandized to believe it, but that's not the case.
They're a strong militarized country, according to what I've read, that can match a lot of what we do in parity.
The bottom line, though, I think, is that a war in Iran is going to mean A lot of people dead.
Tucker Carlson even coming out and saying that if this does go forward, you're going to have a situation where Americans will be slaughtered at United States military bases in the Middle East.
So pray for peace and pray that the neocons do not get their way.
But I want to focus for a moment.
On Vladimir Putin, and I want to focus on, you know, I said that Trump's base, you see, Trump's base voted against new wars, and I think that's generally true.
However, when it comes to the reputation of Vladimir Putin among a lot of Americans, we have...
We have certainly bought the propaganda.
I mean, I'm for peace, and I got accused by a listener, or not a listener, somebody responded to my Twitter a couple of weeks ago, and I've told you this story, and said that I was spewing Kremlin propaganda and that Vladimir Putin is evil incarnate.
Evil incarnate, right?
Like, there's no gray there.
There's no some good, some bad.
No, evil incarnate.
Well, so over at the fantastic, and I really want to emphasize this, it is a fantastic Substack account called Insight to Insight by J.D. Hall, who is the guy who originally founded Protestia.
Here's his bio.
As the founder of Protestia and Pulpit and Pen, I trailblazed the development of evangelical polemics.
Now I use my Substack to provide...
Okay, so...
He has this really good piece, and I'm bringing it to you because we all need to pay attention to it.
The headline, Evangelicals Need to Rethink Who's the Bad Guy.
In terms of the sheer death toll, this is something we have to come to grips with as Americans, especially if we're going to be on the side of peace moving forward.
In terms of the sheer death toll of Christians worldwide, one thing is clear.
America is not the good guy, and Putin is their defender.
Now, for some normies out there, you know, who only consume Fox News, that's a very provocative headline.
And then, of course, the AI photo here with Putin with a halo.
Okay, all right, we get it.
But these statistics are very well sourced, and I just, my mouth, I mean, I already knew this, but to see it in one spot, it really was disturbing.
...
strangulation. This isn't a tale of bumbling missteps, but a calculated conspiracy, possibly mastermined by globalist elites, a deep state cabal, or anti-Christian forces pulling strings from the shakshaksh.
From the Middle East's bloodied plains to Africa's forgotten villages, the numbers and facts scream a truth too stark to ignore.
America's hand is behind the suffering of the faithful, and it's no accident.
And then he writes, "Are evangelicals on the wrong side?" So for years, American evangelicals, some 80 million strong, representing a quarter of U.S. voters, have cast Russia's Vladimir Putin as a villain, a cold-blooded autocrat bent on crushing freedom
and faith.
From pulpits to podcasts, they decry his invasion of Ukraine, his crackdown on dissidents, and his Soviet-style grip on power.
Yet, beneath this chorus of condemnation lies a pain.
A paradox, too glaring to ignore.
Putin, the supposed enemy of the cross, has emerged as a fierce defender of Christians worldwide, a role the U.S., with its secular drift and moral decay, has abandoned.
Are evangelicals blind to the truth, duped by a deep state agenda, or is something more sinister at play?
Walk into any evangelical megachurch in America's heartland and you'll hear the narrative loud and clear.
Putin is a threat.
When Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, 73% of white evangelicals polled by Pew Research viewed Russia unfavorably.
Fast forward to 2022 and the Ukraine invasion, and that number spiked to 85%, with 68% calling Putin a tyrant in a YouGov survey.
Leaders like Russell Moore, a prominent Southern Baptist or former Southern Baptist, have labeled him a murderer whose war machine bombs Ukrainian churches over 500 destroyed by mid-2023 per Ukraine's government.
The National Association of Evangelicals condemned the invasion as unjustified while Liberty University lit its Freedom Tower in Ukrainian colors.
So why the hostility?
For many of the 25% of Americans who identify as evangelical, it's personal, because Ukraine hosts 700,000 evangelicals, which is only 2% of its 41 million people, J.D. Hall writes, making it the most Protestant of all of the ex-Soviet states.
So when Russia's shells leveled Kiev's Baptist seminaries, it hit home.
Add Putin's 2016 law banning evangelism outside church walls, fining 150 Baptists, and jailing 20 Jehovah's Witnesses by 2020 per Form 18, and he's the devil incarnate.
Ah!
Evil incarnate, devil incarnate, you get it.
So to evangelical...
Now, by the way, we could pull that out for a minute.
Why would Putin...
Not be a fan of evangelicals.
Now, you can say, well, because he's built up the Russian Orthodox Church and he wants to use that as a means to exert political power over the masses.
Yep, that's certainly a possibility.
Probability.
But what if he looks at mainstream evangelicals falling to the LGBT propaganda?
What if he sees the churches that, you know, we've got churches over here who have taken the BLM race-baiting hook, line, and sinker and has literally let this extra-biblical ideas and concepts of the secular culture completely change how we worship,
completely change how we preach, the feminization of the gospel to where, you know, you've got preachers writing sermons as to not offend any women.
On Mother's Day, mothers get celebrated, but on Father's Day, they get sermons about how men in the patriarchy are terrible.
Do you think that any of that has any bearing at all about what kind of churches or movements he wants?
You will be known by your fruit, and I think there's some level of responsibility that the American church plays.
Look at what we've allowed to happen to our churches.
Look at how the culture has infected our churches with this woke...
Nonsense that many of people don't have the ability to reject it.
They are literally mouthpieces for...
Anti-Christian government forces, and they serve to sanitize regime propaganda to Christians in the pews so that they won't organize and do something about the moral decay in our culture.
Do you think that at all has just a little bit of sway over Putin's skepticism over what kind of churches or seminaries he wants in Ukraine or in his own country?
It's a legitimate question.
There's merit to it.
I don't think it's something that you can just dismiss.
Anyway, back to this great piece by J.D. Hall.
To evangelicals who sent $60 million to aid in Ukraine from 2022 to 2024, Putin's a relic of the godless Soviet Union they fought in the Cold War when 2,000 missionaries smuggled Bibles past the Iron Curtain.
We remember all of that.
Again, this 1980s Soviet fear, Red Dawn, Rocky IV, those fears are obviously still alive and well in older generations.
But he writes, the hidden truth in Putin's Christian crusade.
But what if the evangelicals have it wrong?
Peel back the propaganda and Putin's record tells a different story.
One of a leader shielding Christians from a world gone mad.
We don't hear about this.
Since taking power in 1999, J.D. Hall writes, he's rebuilt 25,000 Russian Orthodox churches, up from 7,000 post-USSR collapse, pouring $4 billion into the effort by 2020, per Kremlin stats.
His traditional values agenda, quote, traditional values, end quote, agenda, Now think about that.
Now, I want to remind everybody that this 2013 law banning gay propaganda took place one year before the U.S.-backed coup in Ukraine via Victoria Nuland.
And I just wonder, is a law banning LGBT propaganda in 2013, was that a signal to the West and to the West that exports the rainbow?
We're not going to play along with your Globo Homo agenda?
Does that set off?
Is that one of the pillars that sets off?
This guy's not going to play ball.
This guy doesn't want these LGBT agendas to spread in Russia.
Well, we'll show you.
You've got too much influence in Ukraine.
I just wonder.
In 2023, he invited persecuted Christians.
Vladimir Putin in 2023 invited persecuted Christians from America and the Middle East to settle in Russia, offering land and protection, a lifeline, as U.S. cities like San Francisco report 1,200 anti-Christian hate crimes annually.
You know, in 2023, we're in the midst of the Biden administration, and this, you know, this offer comes out, and, you know, I will say, I never, like, really actually considered Going to Russia.
But it did cross my mind in terms of if Kamala Harris gets in, I'm just like, man, how, as we said many times on the program, putting Christians in boxcars not out of the realm of possibility is certainly a step toward that idea for the Christians who are maligned and hated in this country more and more and more.
He goes on, Globally, Putin's a bulldog for the faithful.
In Syria, he propped up Bashar al-Assad, saving 1.5 million Christians from ISIS butcher knife.
54 churches rebuilt with Russian aid in Syria by 2022, per the Syrian Orthodox records.
Compare that to the United States, whose $6 trillion Iraq war left 1.4 million Christians fleeing.
Their numbers crashing from 1. So, okay.
At this point, separate everything that he said so far about Putin.
Just look at the numbers.
Let's look at the American numbers.
That's what just made my jaw drop.
Compare that to the U.S. whose $6 trillion Iraq war left 1.4 million Christians fleeing, their numbers crashing from 1.5 million in 2003 to 150,000 today.
In 2024, Putin sent 50 million in humanitarian aid to Ethiopian Christians after 800 were massacred by Tigray rebels, aid the U.S. ignored while funneling $1.2 billion to Ethiopia's...
Ethiopia's secular regime.
You see the game here?
Even in Ukraine, he claims to protect 12 million Orthodox under Moscow's patriarch, a flock dwarfing the evangelical fringe.
At least those are the claims.
He gets into it again about evangelicals being duped.
So why do evangelicals hate Vladimir Putin?
The answer's in the shadows.
The U.S. deep state, I think CIA, State Department, Intel oligarchy, I would add.
And their $738 billion 2025 defense budget has painted Putin as the boogeyman to justify 800 overseas bases in endless wars.
Evangelicals fed 20 hours a week of Fox News over one hour of sermons per 2023 media studies.
Swallow it whole.
When Franklin Graham prayed for Putin in 2022 asking God to stop the Ukraine war, the backlash was swift.
Yet he'd met Putin in 2015 praising his defense of orthodoxy against atheistic secularism.
Graham's not alone.
14% of evangelicals still view Putin favorably per a 2024 PRRI survey drawn to his...
The irony?
America's evangelicals cheer a nation where 63% of Gen Z identify as nuns, Pew 2024, abortions legal in all 50 states, post-Rose 600,000 annually because of the abortion pill, and one in four churches are shuttered since 2000,
according to the Barna Group.
Meanwhile, Putin's Russia, with 70% orthodox affiliation and a 2% abortion rate versus the United States' 20%, looks like the Christian nation they crave.
Are they opposing their own servant?
The stats expose the ruse.
The U.S. spent $11 billion splitting South Sudan from Sudan in 2011, only to see 6 million Christians displaced by 2020 Civil War, 400,000 dead per United Nations tallies.
Russia?
What did it do?
It spent $1 billion stabilizing Syria, keeping 1 million Christians in their homes.
In Nigeria, where Boko Haram killed 37,000 Christians since 2009, the U.S. gave $600 million in aid that vanished, 70% stolen per a 2021 Senate report, while Putin sent 200 Wagner Group mercenaries in 2023,
cutting attacks by 30% in six months per local accounts.
Even Putin's flaws, like jailing 50 evangelists in his country since 2016, pale next to America's 1,800 hate crimes against Christians in 2023, according to the FBI.
His Ukraine war, killing 50,000 civilians by 2025, according to the United Nations, is brutal.
But the United States-Iraq invasion killed 200,000 civilians, Iraq body count, many Christian.
Who's the real hypocrite?
If you dig deeper and it's clear that evangelicals are pawns in a geopolitical chess game, J.D. Hall again goes on.
For those of you listening to the audio-only version of this on Spotify or Apple, this is J.D. Hall from Insight to Insight.
So I-N-S-I-G-H-T to I-N-C-I-T-E.
So the Council on Foreign Relations with 5,000 insiders pushes a secular agenda.
One trillion in U.S. aid since 2000 props up regimes hostile to Christians.
From Pakistan, 1,500 jailed for blasphemy.
To Egypt, 112 Coptic churches attacked.
Putin, ex-KGB or not, defies it.
planting russia's flag as the third rome a christian bulwark against the west that's lost twenty per cent of its churchgoers since the year nineteen ninety according to gallop
So why the evangelical rage then?
He goes on.
It's engineered.
He claims it's engineered.
He says, When 84% of white evangelicals backed Trump in 2020, according to Edison Research,
they bought a mean, tough protector who moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem for the evangelicals, yet ignored 2 million Christians fleeing U.S.-backed chaos abroad.
Putin's no saint, but he's no fool.
He's playing a game they won't.
American evangelicals see Putin as their foe.
But the facts whisper otherwise.
He's rebuilt churches.
He's armed Christians.
He's stared down a secular tide that's drowned U.S. faith.
They oppose him, swayed by a deep state that fears his defiance, not his sins.
The real question, how long will 80 million believers stay blind to the defender in their midst while their own nation trades the cross for a rainbow flag?
The truth's out there, buried under bombs and ballots.
Time to wake up.
He goes on, the blueprint, a plot against the cross.
The official story paints U.S. foreign policy as a noble quest for democracy and freedom, but peeled back the layers and a darker design emerges.
Since the 19th century, when Manifest Destiny cloaked territorial grabs and divine rhetoric, America's leaders have played a double game.
The Cold War's godly crusade against communism, where the U.S. spent $13 trillion adjusted for inflation on military buildup, Yet the stage for today's machinations, or I'm sorry, set the stage for today's machinations.
Some whisper of free Masonic lodges or the Trilateral Commission's steering policy toward a godless New World Order.
Others point to the $80 billion a year military-industrial complex hungry for chaos to justify its own existence.
The common thread, wherever U.S. influence spreads, Christian communities crumble, a pattern too consistent to dismiss.
You look at Iraq, the Middle East's birthplace to Christianity, has become a slaughterhouse.
The U.S. holds the butcher knife.
Before 2003, the U.S.-led invasion, Iraq boasted 1.5 million Christians, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Saratic Orthodox, living under Saddam Hussein's iron grip.
His regime, while brutal, crushed Islamic radicals, offering the shield to minorities.
The U.S. shattered the shield, invading with a $2 trillion war chest and a flimsy tale of weapons of mass destruction.
Classified Pentagon memos leaked in 2015 reveal planners knew sectarian chaos would erupt, yet they pressed on.
Why?
To unleash a genocide by proxy.
Post-invasion, Iraq's Christians faced 54 church bombings between 2004 and 2011.
Per Open Doors reports.
And over 1,200 documented killings.
By 2014, when ISIS spawned from U.S.-backed chaos, they seized Mosul.
The Christian population had already plummeted to 300,000 by then.
ISIS marked Christian homes with an Arabic N. Remember this?
That stood for Nazarene.
Driving 120,000 from the Nineveh Plains in a single night.
Today, fewer than 150,000 Christians remain, a 90% drop in two decades in the nation of Iraq.
The U.S. spent $1.7 billion on reconstruction from 2016 to 2020, yet only one in three displaced Christians return.
Was this neglect or a deliberate coal clearing the region for oil pipelines and military bases?
Then look at Syria.
In Syria, the plot deepens.
Before the 2011 Civil War, 1.8 million Christians, 10% of the population, lived in relative stability.
Then came the United States, funneling 1 billion in arms to rebel groups like the Free Syrian Army, many of whom morphed into al-Qaeda affiliates like Jabhat al-Nusra.
In 2016, WikiLeaks dumped exposed State Department cables admitting these factions targeted Christians.
Yet the aid flowed unchecked.
By 2020, Syria's Christian population had crashed to 300,000 with 1.5 million fleeing or dead.
And then we fast forward to the 2024 fall of Assad, backed by 500 million in U.S. covert aid to Turkey and Gulf allies, handed Damascus to Sunni extremists.
Within weeks, 12 churches in Aleppo were torched.
Per local reports, 40,000 Christians fled to Lebanon.
Was this chaos or miscalculation, or a move to erase Christian foothold in a Russian-allied state?
The timing aligns too neatly with Pentagon war games leaked in 2023, predicting a post-Assad vacuum ripe for exploitation.
Then you look at Egypt.
Egypt's 8 million Coptic Christians, 10% of its 104 million people face a subtler betrayal.
The U.S. has pumped $81 billion into Egypt since 1979, propping up Abdel Fattah, al-Sisi's regime, with $1.3 billion annually in military aid.
Sisi poses as a Christian savior, yet under his watch, 112 Coptic churches were attacked between 2013 and 2023, per the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights.
In 2017 alone, ISIS killed 91 cops in twin Palm Sunday bombings, attacks the U.S.-backed security apparatus failed.
So why the inaction?
Well, some claim that CIA operatives stationed in Cairo since the 1950s stoke sectarian strife to keep Egypt dependent on American largesse.
The Coptic Christians, with 2 million displaced internally since 2011, are pawns in a game to secure the Suez Canal and counter Russia's African ambitions.
The $40 million in religious freedom grants since 2018, a smokescreen to mask the real agenda.
Again, my question about this is, Trump and Putin today allegedly have a really good phone call securing peace between Ukraine, the ceasefire.
Apparently there's some good movement going on.
But if the U.S. and their goal is to normalize relations with Russia, did they talk about the Middle East at all?
Because I don't see how going to war with Iran is going to help normalizing economic relations with Russia when Iran and Russia are allied.
Honest question.
Is it possible that, you know, I don't know.
I just don't know.
Let's look at Nigeria.
The conspiracy stretches beyond the Middle East, sinking claws into Africa's Christian heartlands.
Nigeria, J.D. Hall writes, where Christians number 95 million, 46% of 206 million, bleeds under U.S. complicity.
Boko Haram has killed 37,000 since 2009 per the Global Terrorism Index, displacing 2.5 million, mostly Christians in the North.
Fulani militias armed with AK-47s raised 1,200 Christian villages between 2015 and 2022.
The U.S. responds with $600 million in counterterrorism aid since 2014, yet the slaughter accelerates.
A 2021 Senate report revealed 70% of this aid vanishes into corruption, leaving Christians defenseless.
Insiders allege U.S. drones deployed since 2016 map Christian enclaves for strategic neglect, letting jihadis clear the land for Western agri-business?
The 2023 discovery of $2 billion in ExxonMobil contracts in Borno State, Boko Haram stronghold fuels suspicion are Christians being sacrificed for profit.
Then you go to the South Sudan.
In South Sudan, home to 6 million Christians, 60% of its 11 million, U.S. meddling birthed a failed state.
After backing the 2011 secession from Sudan with $11 billion in aid, America abandoned the fledgling nation to civil war.
By 2020...
400,000 were dead, 1.8 million Christians displaced per U.N. estimates.
The U.S. pumped $1.5 billion into peacekeeping from 2013 to 2023, yet oil-rich regions controlled by American firms like Chevron remain suspiciously secure.
A leaked USAID memo from 2019 hints at, quote, controlled instability, end quote, to keep South Sudan weak and pliable.
Then we have Afghanistan and the Christians that were sold out there when Joe Biden left in such a reckless manner, leaving $7 billion in weapons.
Then we have Pakistan.
4 million Christians, 2% of the 240 million, endure U.S.-backed hypocrisy.
America's $33 billion in aid since 2001 props up a regime enforcing blasphemy laws that jail 1,500 Christians from 1986 to 2022, per the National Commission for Justice and Peace.
In 2023, J.D. Hall writes, Is this animosity or is it incompetence?
He says it's not incompetence.
Sanctions are the silent weapon.
It talks about Iran.
Now, Iran's in the news right now, so let's go over this.
In Iran, 117,000 Christians, 0.2% of the 87 million people in Iran, face a regime squeezed by $200 billion in U.S.-imposed losses since 2018.
Arrests for illegal worship spiked 300% from 2019 to 2023 per Article 18. In Venezuela, 28 million Christians, 90% of 31 million starve under sanctions costing $130 billion since...
2015, crippling church and aid networks.
The pattern?
Economic ruin to crush Christian resilience masked as national security.
Now that is a bold claim.
That is a bold claim.
I've actually never heard that.
I mean, obviously, if you're going to put economic sanctions on a country, it's going to hurt the people there.
But I guess the minorities would hurt the worst, and the Christians are there.
So who orchestrates this?
J.D. Hall writes the Council on Foreign Relations with 5,000 elite members meets yearly to shape global policy.
The Bilderberg Group's 2023 agenda leaked online listed Middle East Stabilization, code for Christian erasure.
Is that code for Christian erasure, Middle East Stabilization?
The $738 billion U.S. defense budget in 2025 funds 800 overseas bases, yet Christian villages fall.
The $1 trillion in foreign aid since 2000 builds alliances while churches collapse.
The culprits hide in plain sight, betting on our blindness.
This isn't incompetence, he writes.
It's a blueprint from Iraq's 90% Christian collapse to Nigeria's 37,000 dead.
U.S. policy doesn't stumble into Christian suffering.
It engineers it.
Wow, what a claim.
He writes the stats.
1.5 million Syrian Christians gone.
2.5 million Nigerians displaced.
It screams intent.
He writes back to Putin.
Putin, on the other hand, may very well be an evil man.
But that evil man, by every metric, leaves far fewer dead Christians in his wake than American foreign policy.
So then from a Christian perspective, if we're just looking at our brothers and sisters in Christ, and we can surely agree that more alive Christians is way better than more dead Christians, who's the bad guy?
He asks, who is the bad guy?
Again, this is J.D. Hall's piece.
It's up at his website.
He wrote it today, March 18th.
Insight to Insight.
I would encourage everybody to go there and subscribe because he's got a lot of great stuff to say.
Incredible.
We need to get him on the program, as a matter of fact.
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All right, so here's the deal.
I've got so much to get to.
The JFK files are supposed to be released later today, and we'll get to that here in a minute.
But I've got to finish saying what's on my mind when it comes to this idea of Putin and Trump.
They had this meeting.
This idea of U.S. foreign policy actually has a record of leaving dead Christians.
And because this is a...
You know, I'm a Christian.
This is a Christian show.
The whole basis of my show is the Millstone Report.
I mean, it's based on the verses in the Bible.
Matthew and I think Mark talking about it would be better for a millstone to be tied around your neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
Millstone tied around your neck cast into the depths of the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
I mean, if you really think about it, this is an issue we need to really camp out on, right?
We like to think that we still have the moral authority, and when I voted for Trump, I want us to get that back, but it's really hard to.
I think J.D. Vance is making some strides, pointing out the fact that Europe, our ally, actually doesn't agree with free speech, and they're imprisoning Christians, and they've become the...
Godless communist Soviets that they used to want to fight against.
I think those are all good.
But I don't want to go to a war with Iran.
I don't want more dead Americans in the Middle East.
I don't want more dead Middle Easterners.
I don't want more dead Christians.
I want peace.
I'm sick of this.
I'm sick of this.
And the fact of the matter is war is very profitable for a select few.
And I think the American people are sick of it.
But we've got to get the word out.
We've got to keep talking about it.
But specifically, my question earlier, as we were going over the statistics of how Vladimir Putin does not want anything to do with the American church or evangelicals trying to plant churches in Ukraine or even Russia,
and I really want to go back to this point that I made at the beginning.
Why would he want that?
The Russian Orthodox Church, he's built up.
He spent $4 billion.
He's rebuilding all these beautiful churches.
Russian architecture is beautiful, objectively beautiful.
So yeah, you could say, well, he doesn't want any Protestant denominations in there.
Certainly no Catholics, because he's got the Russian Orthodox Church, and a lot of people, he's using the church as a political tool and everything else.
And that may be true.
I honestly don't know.
I'm sure there's some truth to that.
I mean, how can it not?
But could there be another reason?
Could Vladimir Putin look at American churches, the mainline denominations, that are like, well, we better go hear a sermon from Pastor Sharon, you know, Draperner, LGBT Shaw.
He looks over there and is like, I don't want any of that in my country.
He bans LGBTQ propaganda in 2013.
I'm just saying, could Putin's aversion to American Christianity not be about, like, political power?
It may also be about, like, just degeneracy and not, you know, away from what the Bible says?
And I will give you an example.
Here's my example.
Let's just take sin in general.
There is a great piece written by ChristOverAll.com, written by Jared Moore over at ChristOverAll.com.
He says, empty rhetoric cannot save you from your sin.
A critique of Keller, Hill, Albury, and Sprinkle.
Okay.
He says, Only the Pelagians taught that a desire for sin is not a sin and is not something evil, though one does an evil action if one consents to its persuasion.
Okay.
He says, but today some prominent evangelicals use empty rhetoric to teach contrary to scripture.
And he gives some examples.
He says, in 2011, Tim Keller taught heterosexuality That is a quote.
Then, in 2014, Preston Sprinkle taught that same-sex attraction includes a virtuous desire to be intimate in the David and Jonathan or Jesus and John sense of the phrase with people of the same sex.
That is also a quote.
Today, he teaches that there is a pre-lust evil desire that is not even sin.
And same-sex attraction falls into this category.
In 2015, Wesley Hill taught that same-sex attraction can be separated from same-sex attraction.
But is it sexual?
I have no idea what Wesley Hill even sounds like.
It just sounds like...
That's what I think he sounds like.
So, that's ridiculous.
I mean, like, if you're Putin, and you're like, oh, there's some churches that are affiliated, like, they want to come plant churches in Ukraine, or they want to come plant churches in Russia, like, hard pass, man!
It's a hard pass for me.
That's going to be a no.
That's going to be a no for me, Mr. Russian Minister.
No thanks.
Same-sex attraction can be, he writes, sanctified if turned toward godly same-sex friendship, but same-sex sexual attraction should be repented of.
He also argued, Wesley Hill argued, that same-sex attraction in the pursuit of same-sex beauty.
Then in 2015, a man named Sam Albury taught that he, quote, experiences same-sex attraction, end quote, an unwanted, unchosen, mere temptation that is not sin.
And in 2019, he taught that same-sex attraction is, quote, the capacity to be attracted to people of the same sex, end quote, which is not sin, he said.
But Jared Moore says, exposing each one of these men, exposing or each of these men utilize the same tactic to teach falsely, empty rhetoric and eisegetical sleight of hand.
It's easy to expose them if you use their rhetoric while substituting other sins that are less acceptable today.
So for Tim Keller, one can say being male or female does not get you into heaven, so how in the world can transgenderism send you to hell?
Or heterosexuality does not get you to heaven, so how in the world can pedophilic sexual interests send you to hell?
Obviously, now their stupid arguments are immediately exposed.
To sprinkle, pedophilic sexual interest includes a virtuous desire to be intimate in the Jesus and children sense.
Or, every abusive act begins with a pre-abuse orientation or pre-abuse impulse that is not sin.
Obviously, we would say, that is satanic.
To Hill...
His argument falls apart if you were to say, Jared Moore writes, racism can be separated into love for your own race and hatred for other races.
Love for your own race can be sanctified if turned towards loving your neighbor, but hatred for other races should be repented of.
Or pedophilia can be separated into pedophilic attraction and pedophilic sexual interest.
Pedophilic attraction can be sanctified if turned to mentoring or helping children, but pedophilic sexual interest...
Must be repented of.
You see how ridiculous that is, by the way?
You would never, ever let somebody like that near a child.
Oh, I just want to help them.
Yeah, sure you do, buddy.
And then lastly, to Albury, quote, I experience murderous attraction, and it's not sin if I don't submit to it, or having the capacity to be tempted to abuse someone is not sin.
So he writes, each of these men taught or teach that in our hearts, There is a pre-lust or neutral inclination that is aimed at sin, but is not sin itself.
Thus, instead of sending sinners to Christ to repent of their sin at the root, they use rhetoric to take guilt away, which of course doesn't really take anyone's guilt away.
Those who adopt such rhetoric never repent of sin at the root which continually ensnares them in sin.
Obviously, this is all exposed.
By just going and reading what Jesus said, when he said in Matthew 5, 27-30, And
if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away, for it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
So, obviously, that verse right there talks about that sin is certainly things that we do, but it's also things that we think, and lust is always sinful.
And again...
And I'm putting this in the context of, you know, there are evangelicals who are outraged, you know, that Vladimir Putin would promote the Russian Orthodox Church and not want missionaries to come in or not want churches to be planted in Ukraine.
And my question is, why in the world would he ever want to do that?
Would he ever want to let that happen?
Because the fruit of all...
Now, there are good churches in America.
Let me be clear.
There are.
There are good churches in America.
There are good congregations.
There are faithful pastors that you've never heard of that preach to their flock the saving gospel of Christ weekend and week out and worship Him in spirit and truth with songs, psalms, and spiritual songs.
And you've never heard of them, and it's great, right?
Matter of fact, COVID actually really weeded out a lot of bad, bad stuff in the American church.
And there are churches flourishing in the wake of COVID for the ones that didn't compromise and believe everything Anthony Fauci, the pagan Anthony Fauci, believed.
And
But generally speaking, you would know us by our fruit.
And we have been infiltrated.
We've allowed it to happen.
I'll give you another example.
The Center for Baptist Leadership has declared that the racial reconciliation movement is over.
Good.
Progressives ruined it.
This is a fantastic article written by Woke Preacher Clips, and it's 3,000 words, and it's a lot to take in.
But again, it goes with this idea that the American church has been infiltrated by the culture in so many ways and is sacrificing biblical fealty to the whims of the culture.
Some do it trying to mask some sort of fantasy evangelical opportunity, but in reality, it just makes everybody weaker.
It does.
So, the Woke Preacher Clips writes, the United States has seen massive changes in the past three months, particularly in racial discourse.
He says, whereas two or three years ago it deemed that diversity, equity, and inclusion programs would take over every public institution, now these departments face sudden closures almost as quickly as complaints get raised to leaders in the corporate, civic, and educational worlds.
And you can thank Robbie Starbuck for a lot of that because he exposed it, a lot of it, late last year.
Tractor supply, other people as well.
And so now there are people that are saying like, oh man, it's just not cool anymore.
My whole thing is like, We're going to have to wait.
For example, how long do we have to wait before churches give up on this fad?
I'll give you another example.
There's a lot of people waiting on Hollywood to actually make good movies again.
I don't know if it's going to happen, but I do know one thing.
Whatever was in the woke pipeline was worked on two, three years ago when it was still cool to be woke.
Right?
It's still cool to push DEI and ESG and all this other nonsense.
And so, you know, it takes process.
So, you know, for 2025 or 2026 and maybe 2027, there's still just going to be this woke garbage coming out.
Right?
So it's weird.
It's like the church has been such a slave to the culture that when the culture moves on, the church is still going to be talking about wokeism.
And it's like, when is this going to end?
Like, when can this go away?
He says, Listen to this.
He reminds us, Woke Preacher Clips reminds us, that a key slip-up from Giboney, which he's referencing an article that this liberal Giboney wrote about how things are changing, is that he gives a specific example of what he considered a positive example of racial reconciliation among evangelical publishing industries.
Events like MLK50 in 2018 offered hope that we could head in the right direction by bringing together diverse leaders with credibility in their respective community.
He says, MLK50, the conference put on by the Gospel Coalition and Russell Moore's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, went far beyond overzealous veneration of Martin Luther King Jr. and has become infamous as a mask slip moment for subversives in the American church.
The biggest viral moment came from Pastor Matt Chandler declaring he would hire an African American 7 over an Anglo 8. It means at the Village Church, we are going to be serious about seeking and finding gifted,
godly, ferocious persons of color for legitimate power, preaching, and seats of not just voice, but shaping of culture at TBC.
This has not been easy.
It has not been quick.
We have failed often.
We have stumbled forward, oftentimes with bloody knees and tearful eyes.
to give an illustration of this just most recently i can't imagine why vladimir putin wouldn't want this in his country um the the village church is in the process of rolling off our multi-site um campuses to be autonomous churches
the another talk for another day but
We feel this has been wrought by the Spirit of God through a lot of prayer and seeking the face of God.
It's not a slight on that ecclesiology.
It's just we feel like the Lord's wanting to do something different with us.
And we have struggled to find men who can be a campus pastor for a season and lead into being the pastor of an autonomous church down in Dallas and out.
In Fort Worth.
And so we've been looking and having conversations and I have called every African-American man I know and went, "Who you got?
Here's what I need.
Help me."
I've got a lot of white friends, but I would love to just say, "Here's 2,000 people in an $11 million building.
Go lead them."
But you've got to have a token black guy for that first.
That's what he's wanting.
One of the firms that's helping us find men said, let me ask you a question, Pastor Matt.
If we find an Anglo 8 and an African American 7, which one do you want?
I said, I want the African American 7. And he said, what if we find an Anglo 8 and an African American 6?
Then I said, then give me the Anglo-8, because the African-American 6 will look and feel to our people like the kind of tokenism that I'm preaching against.
It's like zero self-awareness.
Absolutely incredible.
I know we've only covered three articles today, and I apologize for that, but this is a great one from Woke Preacher Clips.
The racial reconciliation movement is over.
Good progressives ruined it.
It is a comprehensive 3,000-word piece with examples like that that you need to check out.
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We've got a special edition of the Paul Harrell program that we're going to air on the Millstone Report coming up on Friday.
Again, we did that last Friday, and I thought it worked out good.
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