Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: Enrique Tarrio's Mom Interviews On SCOTUS Ruling, Christians FED UP
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Thank you.
Happy Wednesday to everybody out there watching.
As always, we can't do the program without you.
My name is Paul Harrell and this is the Millstone Report.
Okay, so way back, I guess, well yeah, the year was 2001.
2001, that's when Americans heard the news about the Enron scandal.
Enron was an American energy company that cooked their books.
They used something called special purpose vehicles to hide their toxic assets and debt from investors and creditors.
So when news of this scandal broke, the Price of Enron's stock plummeted from over $90 per share to less than $1.
It was a national controversy.
The company then filed for bankruptcy, and the SEC, the Securities and Exchange Commission, initiated an investigation.
How could this have happened, they said.
It turns out that third-party independent auditing companies aren't so independent and neutral after all.
And so when it was all said and done, several Enron executives were indicted and some were sentenced to prison.
And the SEC investigation resulted in claims that Enron executives destroyed documents in an attempt to save their skin.
So, a year later, in 2002, Congress got involved and passed something called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, the Sarbanes-Oxley Act was designed to put steep penalties on the books to deter executives from destroying documents in an attempt to disrupt federal agency investigations.
Seems simple enough.
There is a national scandal, so Congress steps in with more laws to try to prevent the scandal from ever happening again.
So why am I telling you all of this?
Well, that was 2002.
Fast forward more than 20 years later, an eager and ambitious communist political operatives in the Biden Justice Department decided to use a law that was designed to disincentivize white-collar crime to go after election theft protesters who were at the Capitol on January 6th.
The law is 18 U.S. Code 1512C, which reads, and I quote, whoever corruptly alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so with the intent to impair the object's integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding or otherwise obstructs,
influences, or impedes any official proceeding or attempts to do so shall be fined under this title or imprisoned End quote.
Okay, so, I don't know if you caught it, but it's that last part about obstructing an official proceeding.
We've heard so much about that, obstructing an official proceeding.
That's what the Biden DOJ has weaponized to prosecute and persecute J6ers.
I know, you know, taking something like that and using it to go after them, it is evil.
It is corrupt.
When the government lashes out this way, they only reveal themselves to be an illegitimate power.
And isn't that exactly what the J6ers were ultimately protesting to begin with?
Illegitimate power?
Election theft?
An electoral coup?
So thankfully, the Supreme Court took up this case.
And in a 6-3 decision, not on typical ideological lines, mind you.
Coney Barrett voted with the Libs and Katanji Brown-Jackson voted with the Khans.
But SCOTUS ruled against the government on this and told them that the statute written about destroying documents can't be used to send J6ers to prison for 20 years.
But one of the J6ers, who really isn't even a J6er, we'll get into that, one of the J6ers, Enrique Tarrio, he was sentenced to 22 years in prison.
It's important to remember that Enrique wasn't even at the Capitol that day.
However, the government claimed while he wasn't a soldier, he was a general who directed a violent insurrection.
But what was Enrique's actual crime in the mind of the partisan Communist government?
Well, he was the leader of the Proud Boys for a time.
And in a post-Trump era, The DOJ wanted to go after anyone affiliated with the Proud Boys because the FBI, which now operates as Joe Biden's personal police force, are committed to the narrative that white supremacy is the nation's number one domestic terror threat.
Never mind the fact that Enrique Torrio clearly isn't white, as you see there.
But this story only adds context to yesterday's coverage of journalist Tommy Tatum, who was charged as a J6-er two weeks ago.
Yes, they are still arresting J6-ers, and it's 2024.
However, Tommy, as he told us on the program yesterday, was not charged under this 1512C section of the U.S. Code, which again was written to prevent another Enron scandal.
So what does this Supreme Court ruling mean for J6ers like Enrique Tarrio?
Tarrio was not solely convicted under that section of U.S. Code alone, the 1512C. There were other charges as well.
So for more information on this, we turn out to the mother of Enrique Tarrio.
Her name is Zuni Tarrio, and she joins us now.
Zuni, welcome to the Millstone Report.
Thank you so much for being on the program.
Thank you, Paul.
Thank you for having us.
We really appreciate the awareness out there of what's going on and what the 1512 Scottish ruling really means.
So what does it mean?
I mean, I know there's some statements from Enrique's lawyer that says that this, I'm summarizing, but basically they're hoping that this decision will maybe be an advantage in an appeal to maybe re-look at the sentencing that he was given.
Again, he was given 22 years.
So what can you tell us?
What are you hearing?
How does this new SCOTUS ruling affect your son and potentially other J6ers?
Well, it's a good ruling.
It's a positive one.
It's not like people think that, okay, well, they ruled like this.
What the Supreme Court did was that they threw it back to the lower courts.
So this gives prosecution a chance to look at case per case.
And see how it affects or how else they can word this out.
For some people, it's going to be very fast.
And for others, it's going to be a little bit more delayed.
Nevertheless, it's a delayed process.
It's not a very quick process.
It's going to help us in appeal, God permit.
And it's going to help a lot of the J6ers that only have that 1512 charge and maybe a couple of misdemeanors, so that's really going to help them.
And in our case, in our indictment, it is going to help.
It's just going to take a while, but it is going to help, obviously.
So, I mean, do you think that we're looking at reduced jail time for Enrique?
I mean, that's obviously what the goal is here?
Correct.
That is the goal.
Reduced sentence is definitely a goal.
Enrique is going to be, it's almost three years now.
They never gave him bond.
They never gave any of the guys in our indictment.
None of the five were given bond.
And what you just said is true.
Enrique was never in Washington DC on January 6th.
He wasn't even that close.
And, you know, it's just something ridiculous because the 1512 means that you destroy documents, like you just put it on there, and he wasn't even there.
Yeah, it is absolutely crazy, the weaponization that is taking place.
Go ahead.
It is crazy.
He's been charged with a felony, which is a destruction of the fence.
Now, if he wasn't there, how can he be responsible for the fence or for the window or for anything else if he wasn't there?
So what the DOJ has been given so much power and the FBI has been given so much power that they're doing whatever they want.
They've done whatever they want for all these years throughout all these J6 trials.
But they're not the only people at fault.
We also have to blame jurors, judges, and everything else that have taken advantage of their position on this whole J6 situation.
Yesterday on the program, we were talking with Tommy Tatum.
He's a Mississippi journalist.
I know he's been very involved.
We told you yesterday that he has been trying to raise awareness of the plight of J6ers, as well as the murder of Roseanne Boylan, as well as the murder of Ashley Babbitt on that.
But one of the things he said, because he expected to be charged eventually, was that you really don't have constitutional rights in this country anymore.
And he said that if the government says that you did it, then you did it.
There's no more, you know, really a truly presumption of innocence that they will come after you.
And really and truly, if you somehow do beat the charges, they have this mentality of, well, you may beat the charges, but you're not going to beat the ride to get there.
Now, in this case, the weaponization has been so that, you know, J6ers are just, they're getting sentenced to jail left and right, again, because of this 1512.
But what do you think?
I mean, do you feel that way that in this country, in the United States of America, I mean, I know they may say you have rights on paper, but practically speaking, do we even have constitutional rights to due process anymore?
We don't.
We don't.
And Enrique's trial is a perfect example of that.
And nobody is safe from DOJ or FBI at this point.
I think they're getting desperate and I think they're just going to go after people.
They're going to keep going.
We've wasted millions of dollars for years.
On all these witch hunts that they've done.
And we have no rights right now.
We have no freedom of speech.
We don't have the right to assemble.
I mean, it's a crazy situation, but it's the way it's been handled by DOJ because they've been weaponized.
I think it's interesting.
You look at the situation with J6 and the election protest, all that we know now about the false flag elements of it, the federal agent provocateurs, federal informants, all of the stuff that's coming out.
All the time, right?
The guided tour of the Capitol that happened in many cases, the police escorts, the police lifting barriers, all the stuff that happened there.
And you look at how J6ers have been treated in these D.C. gulags, waiting for trial, and you look at that, and the left says, oh, that was terrible, that was an insurrection.
Right.
That was an assault on our democracy.
That was an assault on our laws and the rule of laws and the transfer of power.
All of their talking points.
And then you look at what's going on with the border.
But that's not an assault on our country.
That's not an assault against our laws.
And it very much is.
And we're actually letting people committed to doing violence into our country, you know, versus what, you know, an insurrection where, you know, nobody brought a gun.
Or I guess one guy did.
And that video came out and he was finally, finally arrested.
But that was very strange as well.
So Donald Trump, I'm sorry to ping pong around here, but Donald Trump says he's going to pardon the J6ers.
So, what are your thoughts on Donald Trump?
What are your thoughts on everything that's going on right now in this election year?
Well, I was at the rally last night in Doral, Florida, and he has said they're going to pardon, but we can't just think of that path.
We need to think about appeals.
And what I'd like your audience to understand is that if a man, like my son, got 22 years, And he wasn't even there.
That's just right there saying, what is going on here?
I mean, you know, the jurors, we never had a chance in Washington, D.C. I don't think any J6-er, and if it is, you can correct me, but I don't think any J6-er has been any of the charges.
About the pardons, I'm really happy with that.
I'm hopeful.
I'm very hopeful.
My son, you know, we need my son home, just like every other mother of every other J6 that's been taken hostage into this custody situation.
And yeah, we're hopeful for the pardons.
We definitely are, but we're also looking at other things.
And this 1512 that was decided by the Supreme Court is very important for us.
But our indictment of these five guys, it's really terrible.
It's a terrible situation.
They've been given no rights.
They haven't been given bail.
They all have families.
We have two veterans in our indictment.
And just so you guys will know, some of the guys didn't even know each other on this indictment.
They met the first time they went to trial and I think that is bizarre.
I think that's just the way that the DOJ put this together.
The jurors, I don't understand what they were thinking because they were shown the same videos of the fence and the window for five months.
Nothing else showed any type of It's funny that you should say that because some people think of him as a general.
Well a general would never leave his men out there if he knew that there was a plan or if there was a conspiracy.
He was told by a judge, a D.C. district judge, to stay out of D.C. on January 6th, and that's exactly what he did.
So there was no plan, there was no conspiracy, otherwise Enrique Chara would have not let his men alone out there.
And they were there just to keep everybody safe and walk around like they usually do.
Enrique was supposed to speak on January 6th at a stage that was set up there, and he couldn't even do that.
He had to watch everything from Maryland.
It's just incredible that this is the state of our country today.
Yes, we need to make sure that we vote this November for the right person, and we need to make this right.
We need to make America have a justice.
Look, I know the strategy is to make it too big to rig, but I firmly believe that it was stolen right in front of our eyes in 2020.
What are your thoughts on that?
I think it was.
I think there's a lot of inconsistencies that make a lot of people think that it was.
We can't let that happen now.
It has to be very clear this time, and we need to get out there and vote.
And bring our patriots home.
Bring our young men home.
They haven't been home in three years.
They have children.
They have families.
These are regular American men.
These are not trained men for anything like that.
There was nothing to prove that.
None of our guys would have done that.
I don't think I've met a J6er yet that was there to do anything to overturn the government or obstruct or anything of that nature.
You know, what's interesting, and I said this yesterday, I mean, I remember watching the events of J6 unfold.
The reason I was tuning in before everything went off the way it did was I was like, oh, I think they're going to, allegedly, politicians are actually going to legitimately challenge the electors, and we're going to have a whole debate, and it's going to be hours and hours and hours, and then all of a sudden...
That wasn't allowed to happen because, and then all the politicians lost their backbone after the, basically, the January 6 false flag.
And so, I mean, the whole thing was rigged from the beginning, right?
I mean, you rigged the election and then you, J6 was essentially the cover-up, a giant cover-up.
Exactly.
And they wanted J6 to happen the way it happened, Paul.
There's no doubt about that.
They had undercover agents.
They had people that were working for the government on the ground.
And nobody, the Pod Boys had agents that were infiltrated into the group.
And those agents never went back to their handlers or those undercovers never went back to their handlers to say, hey, Enrique Charlo has a plan.
He has a conspiracy.
That didn't come out in court, that didn't come out anywhere.
I mean, you know, there was no proof of that.
So it is a very difficult situation to see your son in jail for 22 years when he wasn't even there.
Enrique, anybody that knows Enrique, and I'm very proud of that because in all this time, I haven't spoke to one person that spoke to me bad about Enrique Tarrio.
And that makes me a very proud mother, and that's why I fight for him all the time, and I fight for all the J6ers.
The most important thing right now is to raise awareness so that we choose the right candidate, so we go back to what we're supposed to be, a real country.
Wow.
Well, God bless you.
I know it's got to be absolutely gut-wrenching that your son is in jail.
Is there any way this audience could support you guys?
Do you have a legal defense fund or anything like that?
We do.
We have tariofamilyfunds.org.
And we appreciate all the help we get all the time.
But the most I want is for people to really analyze what it means.
To really get to know my son and to know that he's a good man.
And we need these good men, these patriots, out of jail.
That's enough.
Enough is enough.
Zuni Tario, we appreciate it.
Thank you so much for coming on the Millstone Report.
God bless you.
Thank you, Paul.
I really appreciate you.
God bless.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you so much.
Folks, that's an incredible story.
I mean, did you know, did you know until, I mean, maybe you did, did you know that the 1512, that the Supreme Court ruled overturned or whatever?
It was written for financial crimes.
It was written for white-collar crimes.
And this is what, this is the link that the government goes to.
The links that the government goes to to go after their basically, you know, political opponents.
And their political opponent here was obviously Trump.
It was obviously American populism.
And they do all of this in an attempt to squash populism and support the bogus narrative that, again, January 6th was worse than 9-11 and was some attack on the Capitol.
When I was preparing for this interview, I was doing some research on Enrique Tarrio.
And of course, you've got to sift through the mainstream media garbage and the narrative is just so strong with these people.
You know, the attack on the Capitol, the insurrection.
He might not have been a soldier, but he was a general.
And it's just so much propaganda.
And then when you realize that the charge they went after, they went after him with other charges, but you take a lot of these J6ers.
They're going after with this interference of an official proceeding, and it sounds so pious and official.
I mean, it's a big deal.
You've interfered with an official proceeding, and yet it was a law written to correct the Enron scandal where people were shredding documents.
It's nuts.
So the weaponization is real, and when they do this, to try to put somebody in jail for 20 years, it just shows you that the government is illegitimate in its authority when they're having to reach and be capricious with the code and try to make it fit the crime.
They're literally having to make up a crime in order to hammer these J6ers with large sentences.
And so, and by the way, that is what the protests were all about, right?
The protests were all about, hey, we think this power is illegitimate.
We think what you guys are doing.
We think we all saw what happened in November.
We all saw the election theft.
We all saw, you know, Trump up big.
We saw all of the states stop counting the votes at the same time.
And then they find all of these votes for Biden.
We saw all of this with our own eyes.
And so we think your power is illegitimate.
And then they Their color revolution succeeds, they do the false flag, and then they go after the people that were bold enough, brave enough to show up and protest about it.
My goodness.
But, you know, SCOTUS certainly gave these J6ers a lifeline, but you heard Enrique Tarrio's mother there.
It's not going to be an immediate thing.
Now the court process has got to work.
It's going to be, you know, slow going.
And you've got to know, you've got to predict that the DOJ is going to slow walk all of this stuff.
For a very, very, very long time.
So, anyway, we got a great rest of the show for you.
A little bit of a programming note.
I will be out of the chair here for Thursday and Friday's show, but I'm going to leave you guys in the hands of the capable national file reporter, Frankie Stocks.
We'll be back here.
He'll be guest hosting for me, and I really do appreciate him doing that, and he always does a fantastic job.
But I will be back here as the show concludes tonight.
I will be back here on Monday, unless I'm providentially hindered, of course.
We've got a new verse here.
This is an interesting...
We've been going with the light shines in the darkness from John chapter 1 of the Bible, but we went to Ezekiel today.
Ezekiel 33, 6.
The watchman sees the sword coming.
This is actually...
Basically, a warning to the Watchmen, as a matter of fact, that if you see the sword coming, you've got to tell other people about it.
You've got to tell.
I don't know, maybe.
And don't get me wrong, I do not consider myself a literal prophet.
By the way, protest the ass.
They've got somebody who actually does consider themselves that.
In the biblical sense, or maybe apostle, I think is what it is.
But this verse, the context here is interesting because what it's talking about is, hey, if you see the sword coming, go warn the people about it, right?
And if they choose to do nothing about it, well, then your blood, their blood's not on their hands if they choose to do nothing.
But if you see the enemy at the gate and you do nothing and you don't tell other people, then Now you're complicit.
You're responsible.
That's the principle here.
Very much so, this program, the Millstone Report, is functioning in at least somewhat of that capacity.
Again, not verbatim because I'm not claiming to be a biblical prophet.
But what I am saying is that we have to tell everybody, we have to get the truth to everybody in a world just filled with lies.
And as I say on this program, I do believe, if we don't organize, that they are going to put Christians in boxcars.
And so that's the warning.
And so we see what's coming.
We see what's coming down the pike.
And we're going to...
We're going to organize and use what little rights we do have left as Christians to organize.
Now, speaking of that, we have talked a lot on this program since its inception about Christian nationalism.
And there are people out there who are keeping tabs on this issue.
Obviously, we know the left slanders all Christians as Christian nationalists, even the ones that have a problem with the term.
If you...
Believe your rights come from God and not government.
According to MSNBC's Heidi Presbylla, you are a Christian nationalist.
We know this now, right?
But the debate still rages.
A lot of the debate happens on Christian Twitter.
A few weeks ago, the New Christendom Press held a conference, a weekend conference, where Great authors like Stephen Wolf, the author of The Case for Christian Nationalism.
Also, Pastor Joel Webin was there, among others.
And it was a fascinating conference, and a lot of good stuff was said.
They're just now releasing the footage of that conference.
We've got a little bit of it.
Stephen Wolf gave an excellent hour speech on basically how multiculturalism is a bad bill of goods and not what we've been sold.
Pastor Joel Webin actually has been flagged by Right Wing Watch.
We'll get to that clip here later in the program.
But there's another conference that's going on this week, right?
And it's basically called the National Conservative Conference or NATCON Conference.
And it's been interesting.
It's a little bit more, the NatCon conference is more, you know, mainstream.
And there's a lot of people there with a lot of different perspectives.
But one thing is absolutely clear.
Christian nationalism and this idea of Christian nationalism is no longer taboo.
The Overton window has shifted on it because now you even have the likes of Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri, who I'm told didn't want anything to do with Christian nationalism on a podcast about a year ago, is now saying that he is advocating for Christian nationalism.
So, in that, we do have to be cautious, we have to be careful that, just because like any grassroots movement that gets, you know, that gets speed, that gets momentum, it can easily be co-opted, easily be taken over by, you know, it's exactly what happened to the Tea Party, by the way, and it was co-opted.
And, you know, basically infiltrated.
So you do have to be careful who's being legitimate.
And again, what does that term mean?
What does Christian nationalism actually mean?
This is why we're here.
We're going to have this debate.
We're going to find out what it is.
To me, it's a very simple definition.
And I've shared that with you before, especially if you look at Christian red states from a state level, from a local level.
It's very, very, very simple.
And it can...
You know essentially from the ground up eventually you know affect the national politics and you can even have a national leader that does some top-down changes as well.
But anyway we are we're going to start here with smash bails over on X. So here it is this this is where we're talking about this current conference that's going on this national conservative conference.
It says, two years ago, he says, only the fringes of Christian Twitter were advancing Christian nationalism, but today a U.S. senator and the president of the largest Protestant denomination seminary, Al Mohler, both embrace the Christian nationalist label.
What changed?
The Overton window has shifted radically.
We played this clip for you yesterday.
This is Senator Josh Hawley from this conference.
Take a listen.
Some will say now that I am calling America a Christian nation.
And so I am.
Now, the long pause is just like, you know, and so I am.
And I'm really glad.
I'm glad that he said it and everything else.
But maybe he thinks he's doing something pretty bold.
But at this point, again, for that conference, it's not really very bold anymore.
So I am.
Applaud me.
Again, I'm thankful that this is now being talked about, though.
This is a net positive.
Forgive my cynicism, please.
Some will say now that I am calling America a Christian nation.
And so I am.
And some will say that I am advocating Christian nationalism.
And so I do.
Okay, so there you go.
So I am and so I do.
So let it be written.
So let it be done.
And then we have Al Mohler yesterday saying this.
I want to maximize the Christian commitments of the state.
Of the civilization.
And I would call that acknowledgement.
In other words, I'm not claiming that everyone in the state, every citizen, is going to be a confessing Christian.
I'm going to say that does not mean they're not obligated to the acknowledgement of the Christian structure of this civilization and its commitments.
Hear that one more time.
I want to maximize the Christian commitments of the state.
Of the civilization.
And I would call that acknowledgement.
In other words, I'm not claiming that everyone in the state, every citizen, is going to be a confessing Christian.
I'm going to say that does not mean they're not obligated to the acknowledgement of the Christian structure of this civilization and its commitments.
Again, that is the president of the largest Protestant denominations seminary, the Southern Baptists.
That's Al Mohler.
Essentially talking about how we have a Christian civilization or we need to, we've got to reaffirm our commitment to a Christian civilization, a distinctly Christian civilization.
Really interesting stuff.
Now, does that mean that everybody at that conference...
Has said something that, you know, that everything spoken at the conference is something that I agree with or you agree with.
Again, there's a ton of debate on exactly what does Christian nationalism mean.
Obviously, we know what the left says.
If you vote and believe in Jesus, you're a Christian nationalist to these people.
But what does it actually mean when you have, and it's very simple, you have local elections, the ones that we can still trust, I hope, where you have Christians who go to the ballot box, they vote for their local leaders, and then they go to their state capitals or they go to their quorum courts or they go to their city councils.
And they are changing the way things are working and reorienting things to where pluralism isn't our god and our idol and cultural neutrality isn't our god or our idol.
But we actually are going to say, no, we are going to honor God.
We want a government.
We want a civil magistrate that rewards good and punishes evil.
And we are allowed as a society to hold certain things up, like transing kids, and say, this is wrong.
We're not going to do it.
And so, to me, that's one of the key tenets of it.
It's just kind of a natural inflow, as long, again, as the Supreme Court doesn't.
Johnny, sweep the legs and essentially do another Roe vs.
Wade on these important issues that the states are now debating.
So, Smash Bells is just making note that, hey, this is a big deal.
It is.
It is a big deal.
In terms of...
Because you have...
There's all kinds of different...
Circles, and there's all kinds of different Christian, you know, obviously there's different Christian denominations.
Obviously you have the Protestants, then you have Catholics.
You have a whole debate that goes on amongst Catholics, you know, because I know they're somewhat divided on who they vote for and everything.
And then you have Protestants.
So a lot of, you know, I guess a few years ago you had people trying to You know, advocate, and we're going to talk about this here in a minute, that, hey, there needs to be a third way.
It needs to be a third way.
It can't just be, you know, two choices.
We need to have a third way, which was really code for let's just not ever talk politics and not actually have to acknowledge what's going on around us, which was a convenient way to sanitize regime rhetoric and get Christians to sit on their hands.
You hear me say this all the time.
But there's different echelons of debate within Christian circles.
And so Al Mohler saying this is a big deal, okay?
It's a big deal.
And a lot of people who are sensitive to this idea of Christian nationalism, people who are afraid that it's somehow going to end the cultural neutrality or the pluralistic society that we have in the post-World War II consensus, they are not happy.
I'm just telling you, a lot of people are not happy with Al Mohler this morning.
Again, I want to maximize the Christian commitments of the state.
Big deal.
Again, William Wolfe, who is the Executive Director for the Center for Baptist Leadership.
So walking through here, and this was another thing.
Again, this conference tweeting that the guy named Brad Littlejohn, who is a fellow in Evangelicals and Civic Life, He says this at a panel.
He says that there are at least three reasons why conservatives should reject the ideology of church and state separation.
The founders did not envision a wall of separation.
It is at odds with the reality as one religion or another will always dominate society.
And religion number three, religion has been reduced to nothing more than sincerely held personal beliefs.
These are the conversations that are now being had In more, I would say, religious mainstream circles.
So certainly something has changed and it's a good thing.
We're up against a break.
We're going to go to break.
Don't go anywhere.
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And so this is something that we're very interested in, and we're going to continue covering it.
But we're going to tie it in with What happened with the abortion debate in the Republican conference, in the Republican platform, right?
So, I mean, you can see here, and as we have more and more people talking about Christian nationalism, we're also confronted with the fact that the two major political parties in this country are for, in one form or another, abortion or baby murder.
Human sacrifice.
And so you would think, and I certainly was demoralized yesterday when we covered it, you would think, man, it just feels like we're losing.
It feels like people hate us.
It feels like our leaders hate us.
And that is very much true.
They do.
Here is a guy reacting, Mike Stone, Pastor Mike Stone, reacting to the news about the GOP taking a national abortion ban out of the platform.
He says, I've repeatedly stated for years that I wouldn't vote for any politician who supports killing unborn children, not even a dog catcher.
I have zero intention to start in 2024.
So here's an evangelical voter saying, I'm not going to vote.
Someone named John Harris, though, a Christian named John Harris says, Unfortunately, anyone who voted for Reagan, Bush, McCain, Romney, or Trump already violated this on some level.
They all believed in exceptions.
This can probably be chalked up to ignorance or expediency.
He writes, in my life, there has never been a major party candidate that's 100% anti-abortion, sadly.
So that gives you a little bit of perspective of, well, we have a lot of work to do, certainly.
And then we have this from YouTuber A.D. Robles responding to 8th Century Woodchipper.
Let's read that tweet first.
If a nationwide settlement on abortion is an issue in the 2024 presidential election, it's over whether there's a nationwide restoration of Roe or not.
So it's a little bit different framing than what you're used to.
He says, for all the freakout over the platform, those are the stakes.
And so the issue is we don't want those to be the stakes.
And the issue is the stakes are we have women who are murdering their children and there's no prosecution for it.
The stakes are this is an affront to God.
This is an affront to His standards of morality.
And that's the real stakes here.
And I think that's what we as Christians are screaming from the rooftops, right?
These are the stakes.
Thou shalt not murder.
And it's falling on deaf ears for people that don't want to.
They're afraid of the political fallout for standing on the truth.
And this is the frustration.
But then you have Clear Truth Media with this great piece.
Go to cleartruthmedia.com to check this out.
Let me see.
I want to make sure I credit who this is.
So you have Laura Kern over at Clear Truth Media.
Talking about last year, she says that her home state of Ohio voted to enshrine abortion rights into the state constitution.
In that year leading up to the election, I traveled around the state with other pro-life leaders encouraging pastors to preach on the sanctity of human life and to disciple their congregations faithfully in this pivotal moment.
Of course, the Christians didn't even show up to vote in Ohio, many of them.
Many churches on paper hold the orthodox view of human life and the intrinsic value of a pre-born child.
Often conservative pastors and elders tuck these truths away in their denomination's founding documents and church statements of faith.
They're on the shelf and ready to pull out if ever questions arise, but rarely do they bring these biblical principles to the attention of their congregation.
Some doctrines are for insurance and others for discipleship.
Ultimately, even though the amendment itself was a non-partisan issue, most Ohio church leaders were afraid to touch it.
Quote, we don't want to be a political action committee, we want to be a gospel action committee, I was told.
The new Republican platform will disappoint many faithful Christians, and rightly so.
It is a sad and ugly symptom of ethical decay, she says.
But as always, politics is merely a barometer for deeper cultural currents.
How foolish of us to expect an individual candidate or party to uphold and protect fundamental Christian truths, which the church herself has failed to proclaim.
Republicans gutted a defense of the pre-born from their party platform, a defense we were told by our most vocal evangelical leaders didn't really matter anyway.
She goes on, many Christians rejoice when the Supreme Court overturned Roe versus Wade two summers ago for nearly half a century.
That infamous ruling clouded our national conscience, handicapped state and local attempts to protect unborn children and lulled us, the church.
into a state of complacency.
Today, Roe's legacy is over 63 million babies killed and a majority of Americans who have hardened their hearts against the pre-born.
Yes, the Dobbs decision returned the issue of abortion back to the states, but unless Christians return the issue of abortion back to the church, All political efforts are futile.
Unless God softens the hard-hearted within our churches and emboldens our pastors and church leaders to speak the truth about abortion, we can expect this sad political decline to continue.
So I tie the fact that now Christian nationalism is being talked about among mainstream evangelical circles.
And do you know why I really...
Because it's just...
It's what I've been saying.
The world has gone so mad, so crazy, so evil, so wicked, so quickly since the Obergefell decision, people realize that the evil itself, the existence of the stark...
I mean, Romans 1 talks about inventors of evil.
This is waking people up to say, okay, all right, you know what?
Yeah, we are a Christian nation, and we need to be that again, and I... I don't care about this pluralistic society because if commitment to libertarianism, if commitment to pluralistic society means we have to accept a parent's right to trans their kid and abuse them or accept a parent's right to take them to a drag show to be ogled by half-naked pedophiles, people are saying, I'm out.
I'm done.
I'm rejecting that ideology.
What do we have to do?
And on what basis do you ban that wicked behavior?
Do you ban it because we think it's morally repugnant?
Or do you ban it because God thinks and says in his word these things are an abomination?
This is the debate, the emerging debate that's happening now.
And it's a very good thing.
Even in the wake of the Republican Party going soft on abortion and admitting they really don't think it's murder and they really don't think life begins at conception.
So this was a conversation that we started talking about this national conservatism, the NatCon conference this week.
As I told you earlier, though, a couple of weeks ago, you had the New Christendom Conference, which is a publishing house.
And they held a conference.
They had some great folks there.
One of them was Joel Webin.
Another one was Stephen Wolf.
And so Right Wing Watch, they've just now released the videos of those speeches from several weeks ago at this New Christendom Conference.
And so New Christendom Press has now gotten on the radar of Right Wing Watch.
Right Wing Watch is now existing essentially to promote what I think is good content and good conversations that need to be had.
Here's Joel Webin.
Right Wing Watch says, far right Christian nationalist pastor Joel Webman says that immigration must be ended because he had to explain to his daughter why there was a woman in straight up Hindu garb at her neighborhood swimming pool.
Okay, so watch this clip and you tell me if Joel Webman is saying out loud what everyone is thinking considering how immigration is totally out of control in this country.
In America, you can't even recognize it anymore.
Like I walk around my neighborhood...
And it's not that there are different shades of, you know, white and brown.
Who cares?
No, it's, I mean, like full straight up Hindu garb at the, our neighborhood swimming pool that my daughter is asking, I'm trying to explain.
She's like, you know, what, like, and I don't even know what country I'm in, in my own neighborhood.
I just, I don't, I don't know where I am.
It's, you know, I mean, the number of, when we go on a family walk, The number of Pakistani, Hindu, all these different, not just ethnicities, but religions with visible religious outfits on.
And, you know, the same thing like when we go to Costco.
I'm like, where am I? You know?
I mean, it's rare.
Like we'll go on a family walk and every now and then we'll pass by, you know, a white family that's a man and a woman and has more than one kid.
And every time I see it, I'm like, I don't want to be this way.
But I feel like this, like, small sense of relief.
Like, I see you.
I'm glad you're one of my neighbors.
Because at the end of the day, again, it's not about whiteness, but at the end of the day, if things get rough, I don't know if my Hindu neighbor is going to fight to save the lives of my children.
At the end of the day, I don't know if my Hindu neighbor or let's just, you know, people who are from other cultures that are not Americans.
It really is about culture.
I mean, when you have...
Is it Black Lives Matter or the anti-racist or whatever?
When they're now saying that, you know, being punctual and showing up to work is somehow white...
What do they mean by that?
What exactly do they mean by that?
Well, they're really fundamentally talking about culture.
That's what they're talking about.
They're talking about a culture that expects people to be on time.
And they want to say, well, that's white supremacy now.
It's white supremacy to expect somebody to be there on time.
What is that actually saying about the order and the hierarchy of other cultures?
So that's what's going on here.
And look, a house divided cannot stand.
And we are in the midst of a societal collapse because our leaders have betrayed us at the border.
We've got the Uniparty that is essentially engaging in a proxy war with the Mexican drug cartels against the people, against this country.
And we're importing third world barbarian hordes.
They're not coming to take our jobs.
They're coming to take our lives.
They're military aidesmen.
This is not rocket scientists.
You know what?
You know what a nation that's drenched in the blood of 63 million babies?
Any nation in history that has done what we have done and is still doing it, you know what happens to these nations?
They tend to get conquered by other countries.
And that's exactly what is unfolding before our very eyes.
Anyway, right-wing watch, obviously, very triggered.
They're triggered by somebody speaking their mind and saying what they're witnessing, right?
With their own eyes, okay?
Witnessing with their own eyes, saying, I don't even recognize the country anymore.
And you talk about trying to explain to somebody about somebody in Hindu garb.
Talk about trying to explain to a young child why the rainbow flag is everywhere all of a sudden, and what does it really mean?
Try explaining that to them.
It's like the whole thing is so sick and twisted.
If you were to actually have the conversation about, okay, well, what does this transgender flag mean?
You have to tell a young child that doesn't know anything about sex about this idea of changing genders.
They're like, so no, we're going to avoid that.
We're going to avoid that altogether.
It's like, well, what does that flag mean, Dad?
Well, it means evil.
It's satanic, actually.
Because at the end of the day, you're either a sheep or a goat.
At the end of the day, you're either...
You're either father or child of God, or you're of your father, the devil.
Right?
So I had to just distill it as black and white as I could and say, we need to pray for people that embrace this ideology.
They don't think that they're worshiping the devil in many cases.
They don't think that that is a satanic aspect.
They don't think that.
They think it's good.
But they've believed a lie.
So we can pray for those people to wake up.
We can pray for the Lord to open their eyes and see the truth for what it is.
But I would much rather tell a child that than have to go down some sort of, well, technically the non-binary and cisgender and, you know, that's absolutely preposterous to let a child in on all of this nonsense, right?
But I think that's what they want.
I think they want...
They obviously would want somebody like me to actually break it down, to even let a child know that you can become, which you can't, become another gender.
But they think they can become another gender.
They think they can switch their gender.
I'll tell you, I was speaking of this clip that Joel Webb is saying, look, I mean, I saw...
Okay, if I want to get to the rest of this, okay, I'm going to save this story for another time, for what I saw out in public.
It was crazy.
Instead, we're going to move on to some rhetorical millstones.
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You think this is the best way to get people to come to church?
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Look, if you don't know what the seeker-sensitive movement is, I encourage you to Google it.
Google seeker-sensitive movement.
I think we've reached the peak.
I think we've reached the zenith of the seeker-sensitive movement among the evangelical dominations.
And I think this is it.
Go America!
But if you needed any convincing...
that women are not supposed to be preachers that they are not supposed to hold official church office here is who is this this is a self-proclaimed apostle uh which by the way those don't exist anymore a self-proclaimed apostle uh named katherine crick She says that she's a Berean babe.
A Berean babe.
A self-proclaimed apostle.
Credit this video to Protestia and this last video as well.
...decisions and make their own decisions to judge the fruit.
Instead of forcing people, this is the real fruit!
That's bad fruit!
Forcing you to come to the real good fruit!
That's what people are doing when they're taking the place of the judge of God.
They're saying, nope, you're disqualified to be in ministry.
And it's literally not giving people even free will.
Let people have itching ears if that's what they want.
Let people be lukewarm if that's what they want.
Let people do what they want!
And you may be saying, Paul, I mean, I already don't think women should be pastors.
You don't need to sell me on the idea.
That may be what's going through your head right now.
A Berean babe.
I don't think that's what the Bible meant when they were talking about being a good Berean.
One more time.
I mean, if you're sitting under something like this, I guess leave.
But this is the part of the gynocracy, the feminization of our entire country that has also infiltrated the church.
Unbelievable.
And let them make their own decisions and make their own decisions to judge the fruit.
Instead of forcing people, this is the real fruit!
That's bad fruit!
Forcing you to come to the real good fruit!
That's what people are doing when they're taking the place of the judge of God.
They're saying, nope, you're disqualified to be in ministry!
And it's literally not giving people even free will.
Let people have itching ears if that's what they want!
Let people be lukewarm if that's what they want!
Let people do what they want!
Yeah, let people do what they want!
Do what thou willst.
Man, that's satanic.
It just is.
So terrible.
That's all the time that we have for this edition of the Millstone Report.
As I told you earlier in the program, tomorrow's broadcast and Friday's broadcast, I won't be here, but I'm going to leave you in the hands of the capable NationalFile.com reporter, Frankie Stocks.
So he always does a great job.
And I'm not going to see you until Monday, so here's a preemptive weekend announcement.
If you're not going to church, find a church to go to.
And as long as it takes, go to a church until you find a church that preaches the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ and how he saves you from your sins.
He saves sinners.
And don't neglect the gathering of the saints on the Lord's Day.
Hope everybody has a great rest of the week.
And again, thanks to Frankie for filling in the rest of the week.
And my name is Paul Harrell, and we will see you next time.