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Oct. 25, 2023 - Stew Peters Show

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LIVE: George Papadopoulos On Middle East Trade Route War, Steve Kirsch On Pfizer Lawsuit Liability

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	Accountability is God's job.
	But it's not solely God's job.
	No, it's our job too.
	We will be the plan.
	We are never going to give up.
	When the truth is known to the entire world, we are going to have extreme accountability.
	How sweet that sounds.
	Good evening and welcome to the Stu Peter Show.
	So this war between Israel and Hamas is far from the first war ever fought in the Holy Land.
	In fact, of course, modern day Israel has been one of the most fought over locations on earth for thousands of years.
	The very name that we use for the end of the world, Armageddon, comes from Tel Megiddo, a mountain in Israel that was the site of countless battles in ancient times.
	So if this isn't the first war, it could soon be one of the biggest ever fought.
	There's still the possibility that Hezbollah will get seriously involved in this war.
	And if they do, then Iran might follow.
	And if Iran and Israel get into a serious fight, almost anything is possible.
	We could see Syria get involved.
	Maybe even Egypt, Saudi Arabia.
	So before you know it, the Holy Land could end up being the cradle for a full-blown World War III, which is where we think that this thing is posturing.
	But what would that war really be about?
	Would it just be to support those or to be about those who support Israel versus those who support Gaza?
	We don't think so.
	There's other stakes in play.
	In fact, it could even be traced all the way back to China.
	And that's the reasoning of former Trump foreign policy staffer George Papadopoulos anyway.
	The other day, George tweeted this about the real reasons for the war.
	Quote, So,
	in other words, In favor of a new anti-American order favorable to China.
	Very fascinating theory.
	Want to hear more about that to that end?
	Of course, George Papadopoulos joins us now to discuss this in greater detail.
	George, thank you so much for coming.
	So, I mean, obviously, global trade routes being redrawn isn't something that the average American is talking about at their dinner table.
	Why should this be important to anybody?
	Who cares?
	Well, Stu, thanks a lot for having me.
	And look, my analysis on the conflict, I guess, is really rooted in cynicism.
	And I'm cynical because I just happen to know both the Israelis and the Arabs because during a foreign policy advisor to Trump, Ben Carson, my previous life and obviously what I'm doing today on TV and other things...
	I understood that the Arabs, meaning Egypt, because I was actually the one that brokered Trump's first meeting with the Egyptian president, el-Sisi, during the UN General Assembly while he was a candidate.
	So during my meetings with these various countries, there was really no love loss for them and the Palestinians, right?
	This includes both the Israelis and even Arab states.
	I had a meeting with Jordan's foreign minister, In Cyprus during the Trump transition, Palestine, the Palestinians, was never even brought up, let alone, you know, them getting so emotionally invested over what's happening to these people.
	It's heartbreaking what's happening to the civilians on both sides.
	No one wants to see violence.
	No one wants to see innocent women and children murdered.
	If you're a soldier, you sign up to fight.
	You know what the risks are.
	That's war.
	It happens.
	It's been happening throughout human civilization.
	Now, when I look back and I step back based on that small prelude I just gave you, I look at the big picture.
	The war in Russia between Ukraine and Russia was about monopolizing the energy trade and the energy market of Europe.
	Russia has the dominant market share of the European market, which most of that gas goes through Ukraine.
	What happened to stop that gas and to cripple the Russian economy?
	They had to start this war.
	That's why you're starting to see all of these new routes, these energy sources being developed.
	Go now to the Mediterranean.
	Israel, Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon.
	Before you do that, though, before you go to the Mediterranean, let's remind the viewers that that Nord Stream pipeline, that wasn't bombed by Vladimir Putin.
	That wasn't destroyed by anybody.
	All signs point to the United States military industrial complex.
	All signs point to our corrupt government going and at least aiding or helping to plan or carrying out that attack against one of our allies, Germany, who gets its natural gas from that pipeline.
	We did that ourselves and then lied about it.
	Well, that's according to, you know, prominent journalists.
	Seymour Hershey came out with that theory.
	He's written extensively about that.
	There's obviously an investigation, but surely that was a very suspicious sabotage of a critical pipeline infrastructure connecting Europe's largest economy, Germany, to its largest natural gas producer source, Russia.
	So, you do that to cripple Russia's economy with its natural gas exports to Europe, and obviously you suck them into this war.
	Moving forward, now you have the Mediterranean.
	A new source of energy has emerged offshore Israel, Egypt, even Lebanon.
	That's why I predicted in the beginning of this conflict you'll see Hezbollah very reticent to actually get into this war, and Hezbollah has not actually entered the war in an overt manner, and I think it has to do with their natural gas deposits of Lebanon.
	How do you cripple now the energy resources to Europe, or I should say add resources?
	You develop these resources, and Gaza itself has resources.
	That's why they're fighting there.
	Moving forward now, that's one critical element.
	You mentioned China.
	This is the big elephant in the room.
	You first used this aspect to cripple Russia.
	Now how do you take out China?
	The Chinese are aware that the U.S. naval presence around Taiwan, the South China Sea, and the Strait of Malacca is increasing.
	They understand that there's likely going to be a naval battle between allied forces of the United States and China over the next five to ten years as China emerges as a naval blue water navy.
	So what do the Chinese do to prevent So now what happened?
	At the UN General Assembly just about three weeks ago, Netanyahu, and this is public, the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Held up a sign or a map of the world and he said last time I spoke at the UN General Assembly I was talking about Iran getting a nuclear bomb.
	Now I'm here to talk about the new architecture of the Middle East, the new trade routes that we have emerged and envisioned.
	He dealt a map connecting Saudi Arabia, India, Israel, into the European market to cut out the Chinese and to make India the new manufacturing superpower of the world that the US has allied with.
	Two weeks later, what happens?
	We have this massive attack by Hamas.
	You have now China and Turkey, which are going to lose tremendous leverage, as I explained, and you showed on the map at the beginning of this conversation.
	And they all of a sudden have become the two main backers of the Palestinian cause, the Palestinian people, and are condemning Israel.
	While at the beginning of my conversation, as I explained to you, there's no love loss between the Arab states, Israel, and the Palestinian people.
	In fact, they view it as a major headache for them.
	So all of a sudden, you cut out the emotions, you cut out the white noise, you focus on two critical issues, gas pipelines and trade pipelines and routes.
	That's what this war is about.
	That's why the U.S. Navy is getting incredibly involved in the Mediterranean and why the Saudi-Israel peace deal was being discussed and has been now sabotaged.
	This is what this is really about, and I think you're going to see Turkey and China become even more belligerent as this thing goes.
	So when we have, you know, I'm just a regular guy.
	Papa, you know that.
	I mean, we've talked off the air before.
	Just a regular guy raising three kids, doing my damnedest, trying to earn a living.
	That's the representation of most of, you know, middle America.
	They're not, as I said at the top of the conversation, they're not talking about this because this doesn't dawn on people.
	They're not thinking about trade routes and You know, global trade being redrawn, these maps that Netanyahu is holding up.
	I mean, what they're seeing on the media right now is mostly propaganda from all sides, and everybody acknowledges that innocent people are dying.
	If we can be energy independent, as Donald Trump introduced to all of America, as we've known for decades, we could be energy independent.
	Is there really any reason for us to be involved in any of this in the first place?
	How does it make us safer?
	What does this mean for people sitting at home?
	This is, if the United States was a net exporter of energy, as Donald Trump had the U.S. under his administration, that's the reason the U.S. wasn't sucked into these type of conflicts.
	And this never happens if we do that, correct?
	I mean, none of this ever happens if we are the net exporter of energy.
	Absolutely.
	So, when the United States is not a net exporter of energy, it uses that excuse to get itself involved in these type of conflicts, in oil-rich, natural gas-rich, What I believe
	the war between Russia and Ukraine is about, first and foremost was about We're good to go.
	When the United States is an energy exporter, there's no reason for the United States to send its aircraft carriers, its amphibious assault vessels, its special ops forces to secure oil fields in faraway lands like Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, even now you might see it in Israel, potentially Lebanon, where new oil and gas reserves have been found.
	This is all an excuse now by the military-industrial complex in an election year by a flailing President Biden, who is completely collapsing the polls, to distract the American voters for two reasons.
	One, because it's an election year, and two, because the US economy is in free fall and they need to blame it on someone.
	And what better excuse to confuse the American people than to start World War III? And blame it on Putin.
	Even this Vladimir Zelensky with, I think, 17 Ys in his name this week now.
	Even this guy's name is fake.
	He was completely installed there.
	Our CIA affected a violent coup.
	We've been over this in 2014.
	Democratically elected administration there.
	We overthrew them.
	Made it look like a BLM-style popular uprising.
	Killed, again, you know, so many people.
	So...
	If I'm hearing you right, what you're saying is that Vladimir Putin didn't just wake up one day and decide to be some war criminal or some ruthless dictator killing everybody inside of Ukraine, but that if you want to blame anybody for this conflict in Ukraine, then you can blame the deep state and our own State Department.
	I always look at, as an American, if I was in government and a leader in a leadership position in government, let's say the President of the United States, if a competitor, let alone a hostile force, was building a military alliance with Mexico or Canada setting up missile defense systems in Mexico or Canada and utilizing fringe Nazi anti-American forces within Mexico or Canada to launch attacks
	against Texas or New Mexico or Southern California because that was historically Mexico I think I would fight back against that too.
	And that's exactly what really went on in Ukraine.
	So of course Putin didn't just wake up one moment and attack Ukraine for no reason.
	There's obviously a logic and that's part of it.
	Yeah, I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis, right?
	I mean, this is what happened when somebody put missiles in close proximity trained on the United States.
	We had a problem with that.
	We promised Vladimir Putin that we wouldn't expand NATO any further east.
	A reminder for all of our viewers, NATO is in place for one reason and one reason only, and that is to fight Russia.
	So, when you start expanding further east and you introduce Poland and then you're begging for Ukraine to get involved and all these other countries are involved in NATO, what does anybody expect Vladimir Putin to do?
	Well, and just to qualify your point for a second about NATO as an offensive alliance, right?
	It's not simply against Russia.
	Actually, it was a NATO operation that bombed Libya and caused the chaos that we now have on the northern Mediterranean, the southern Mediterranean, I should say, where Gaddafi was overthrown.
	Libya is now a failed state because Obama and Sarkozy of France decided to bomb Libya under the pretext of this civil war.
	That was a NATO-led operation.
	Obviously, Afghanistan is a NATO-led operation.
	The Kosovo-Serbia bombings were NATO. So this isn't simply a defensive posture by NATO where they're just building up alliances and saying, we're here to protect the European continent and North America.
	No, it's actually aggressive by design.
	And I think that is why, based on the analogy I mentioned regarding Mexico or Canada becoming these Obviously, the United States would respond.
	Look at the United States now.
	You have leading candidates running for the GOP presidency, or the presidency, saying that we want to launch missiles into Mexico to take out the cartels.
	So this is, I mean, it's crazy that people actually think that Putin just woke up one day, decided to attack, and to bring his country on the potential of disconnecting from the global economy that we sanctions have done to Russia.
	If he was willing to get into Ukraine, it was because it was an existential threat to his nation.
	And I think based on the evidence over the past year or so, it backs up what he did, unfortunately, for the NATO alliance.
	From a geopolitical aspect of it, we could talk about this for probably days.
	There's, I mean, so many layers of the onion to uncover.
	But superficially, I mean, on its surface, and I don't mean superficially because real people are dying.
	I mean, real kids are being freaking bombed in civilian apartment complexes.
	War crimes are being committed on X, on Fox News, on CNN, MSNBC. I mean, they're showing you what's happening.
	People are dying.
	Children.
	Children.
	We've mentioned this in the program before.
	50% of the population in Gaza of their 2.3 million people is under the age of 15.
	70% under the age of 25.
	It doesn't matter what side you're on.
	This is all being instigated by us.
	We are the murderous corporate crime syndicate, the most corrupt government on planet Earth, and we are intentionally starting all of these conflicts.
	The same people that brought us the PSYOP of 9-11...
	Which got American support to go into Afghanistan, which lasted 20 years, where I oftentimes say, and I'll repeat, what we accomplished there was Teaching the importance of transgenderism to passion tribesmen and looking the other way while warlords rape little boys.
	It turns out that they would much rather have the Taliban than what we brought, so now the Taliban's back in control after the calamity just ends one day when we pull out.
	We got support, you know, Toby Keith, we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.
	We went into Iraq for weapons of mass destruction and, you know, Saddam Hussein ties to al-Qaeda and The fake lie about, you know, the Iraqi army pulling babies out of incubators, total fake, totally fake.
	Libya, Syria, you name it.
	I mean, everywhere that we go to spread democracy, we end up killing millions of people and enriching NGOs and enriching the warmongers in the D.C. Beltway, Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley and eyepatch guy Dan Crenshaw.
	These people have a mission.
	They have a goal.
	This is being intentionally done.
	You just articulated that.
	What is their end goal?
	What is the benchmark for success for these murderous warmongers who want to just kill innocent people and stick our missiles and stick our agenda everywhere across the face of the planet?
	I really think that their end goal is World War III. First of all, I think we are in World War III already.
	I think it's at a simmering pace right now, and it's not simply what's going on in Ukraine.
	There's a lot of action and activity going on in Africa, too.
	There have been a lot of coups on the African continent over the past year.
	Wagner Group is backing a lot of these warlords over there.
	It's becoming a proxy war between Russia and especially France.
	Which France, as a major colonial ex-power on the continent, and gets most of its uranium and natural reserves from the continent, is really being thrust into this.
	And you have Macron, the French president, coming out and saying, we might militarily get involved now in the African continent and start bombing our way into getting our tin-pot dictators back in office.
	So that's another aspect.
	You have to watch that.
	It's about World War III. It's about conflagration.
	It's about destroying or attempting to devastate the economies of both Russia and China so that they cannot stand up to the Western-led alliance, which is NATO, this aggressive posturing alliance that is led by the United States.
	It's also about an election year.
	It's about distracting the American people the way they did when inflation was going through the roof, when the economy was in disarray just last year.
	COVID-19?
	What was the mainstream media talking point?
	It's Putin's fault.
	And idiots on the left actually bought that hook, line, and sinker.
	So did idiots on the right, though.
	I mean, let's be fair.
	Some did.
	So now the next narrative is going to be, guys, we're in the middle of World War III.
	We're bombing Iran.
	Putin is bad.
	Xi Jinping is bad.
	We're trying to, you know, fight for democracy in the Middle East to stand up for what's right.
	And it's going to suck the United States and Europe into this war.
	We're going to eventually probably lose.
	And the reserve currency, which is the U.S. dollar, might never again recover.
	And I think that's actually part of this.
	A battle that the United States wants to see.
	And this is a bit complicated.
	I don't know how much time we have to get into this.
	But you also have the BRICS movement now.
	You have this alternative currency that the BRICS movement is trying to usher in to really remove the United States dollar as the reserve currency.
	And if that happens, the US economy is going to collapse.
	So where do the central banks come in?
	The central banks, the Fed could print itself into oblivion as long as the US dollar is a reserve currency.
	If it's not, that over $30 trillion that the US faces right now is going to come calling, the creditors are going to want their money back.
	The interest rates are going to be so untenable that the U.S. might itself default.
	And that's really why I think you're seeing this type of aggressive posturing going into going after Iran, Russia and China because they are leading this new world order against the U.S. order that we currently have.
	And it's inevitable for there to be a conflict.
	So you believe that Xi Jinping and Putin are behind ushering in the new world order?
	Is that what you're saying?
	They're not the NWO New World Order that is the Klaus Schwab World Order.
	That's not what I'm talking about.
	The One World Governance.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	That's not what I'm talking about at all.
	Okay.
	What Xi Jinping and Putin are trying to do is to dissolve that order and bring in their own, which is to basically defang the Fed, defang the US dollar as a reserve currency, which, look, as an American, I don't want to see happen because our dollar will go to absolutely nothing.
	But you can't blame them for doing it.
	But that's what they're trying to do.
	That's what they're trying to do, and they're using now this Hamas-Israel conflict to suck the US into the Mediterranean once again, and to likely get involved in a hot war with Iran, to suck in Russia the way they did in Ukraine, and to try to alternate these routes away from China to destroy their economy and likely get into a hot war over Taiwan.
	That's unfortunately what's happening.
	There are a lot of moving parts, but the bottom line is this.
	It's all coming down to trade, energy, and the US dollar as a reserve currency of the world.
	Once those are threatened, that's when war is going to emerge.
	And all three are now being threatened by both Russia, China, and even Iran.
	When you look at Russia and you look at China and you look at Iran, what is the common denominator?
	All of them have rejected the central banks.
	All of them have rejected the Rothschilds.
	All of them have rejected Klaus Schwab.
	All of them have rejected the World Health Organization.
	All of the things that the United States taxpayer continues to fund.
	I mean, am I wrong?
	That's exactly what they are against.
	They're very vocal about it, actually.
	You have the leadership, and that's actually why Iran, Russia, and China have aligned the way they have, to the detriment of America.
	See, when Trump was in office, none of this was happening.
	Iran was on the backpedal.
	Putin was in his lane.
	China was just focusing on being an export-led economy, you know, that we had tariffs on.
	They weren't starting all this attempt to basically overthrow An entire security and financial architecture that the U.S. has preserved since the end of World War II. And for many of your viewers, all you have to do is research what the Bretton Woods Agreement was after World War II. That is the U.S.-led order that the United States has preserved since the end of World War II, and that is really what these countries now, seeing weakness with Biden, are trying to dismantle.
	And as I said, when you come face-to-face with this type of conflict, Do you think the American people have a reason to be scared?
	I think that the average American person is an incredibly good person.
	They're not paying their taxes, and they're not focused on some of these issues we talked about.
	But that's why it's so important for shows like yours, Alternative Media, X, Facebook, people to do their own research to understand what's happening around them.
	And once they do that, and they put pressure on their members of Congress to stop financing these endless wars, or this saber-rattling, then you might actually see real change.
	Focus on America first, focus on economic populist nationalism that we trumped it, See the economy grow at home, then focus abroad.
	If you don't have a strong domestic situation, you'll never solve issues abroad.
	That's what I've said from day one.
	That's what Trump has been talking about.
	And I think that's exactly why we need him back in power next year.
	If there's 340 million people in this country, that's one of the numbers that I just saw recently.
	If that's how many people are here, I would say 340 million of them don't support foreign intervention.
	People are way far beyond this at this point.
	Nobody wants to see missiles and bombs lobbed into places where we spread democracy and rip people off and steal their oil and their olive trees.
	And we screw everybody up and we kill kids and we spend trillions of dollars.
	You know, we send our own young men to go and die in these countries thousands of miles away that matter not to our national security or our sovereignty or our prosperity, but.
	Matter of fact, all they do is weaken us militarily.
	They weaken us financially, economically.
	They weaken us as a superpower, as a status in this world.
	Meanwhile, we ignore our own border while we literally facilitate and implement a physical...
	Invasion of our country with military age.
	Now we're seeing Chinese.
	We're seeing people from the terror watch lists that are being caught.
	How many of them weren't caught?
	I mean, this is the most evil thing.
	This is not negligence.
	This is not like oversight.
	This is not, whoops, we made a mistake and now we found ourselves in these wars.
	This is like undeclared wars.
	Congress hasn't declared war in Ukraine with Russia.
	They haven't declared war in Israel against Hamas.
	They haven't declared war in Taiwan against China.
	But the purse strings are wide open and we're funding this.
	The taxpayers funding all of this and putting pressure, it seems, on Congress people is all for naught because...
	Because these people are all about it.
	All of these America Firsters, all the people that were elected based on their America First stances, that they're these firebrand patriots, have completely abandoned everything that they ever promised their constituents.
	They don't answer their phones.
	They don't return their emails.
	There's no accountability so they could give a shit less about what any of their constituents say.
	They just go and they support this.
	So who's the real bad guy in the room on the world stage?
	Well, you know, I would have thought that after 9-11, after the Iraq invasion and the Afghanistan debacle, that the American people would have never allowed state-run propaganda and disinformation to confuse them and to sleep them into another war.
	I was completely wrong.
	Just based on inflation and a couple of these economic indicators that we've been unfortunately facing as a country over the past two years, The mainstream media from ABC to MSNBC kept the narrative that it's all Putin's fault.
	And people, like I said, still bought that garbage hook, line, and sinker on both the left and the right.
	So if they're still willing to allow the mainstream narrative to sleepwalk them into war, then they're going to continue to allow them to do it once again.
	And that's really the saddest situation we are facing.
	And unfortunately, you're right about members of Congress.
	We did see the situation with McCarthy.
	A lot of that had to do because he wanted to keep the checkbook open to Ukraine.
	He's no longer in office.
	But now look how the unit party is fighting back and they want to install even bigger rhinos in there to keep not only the money going, but even to probably not even secure the border.
	So the issue that we're facing is we have treason from within.
	It's a far bigger danger than any from abroad.
	And unless we get our act together at home, There's no point in focusing on what happens in Syria, in Israel, Gaza, or China, because we're going to destroy ourselves from within.
	So that's really the bottom line.
	The only intervention anywhere on the planet that any American should ever support from here on out is when the American people rise up and intervene with this government.
	The only regime change that we should support is the one right here at home.
	Go read your constitution, figure out what to do with a tyrannical government that's oppressive to your God-given inherent inalienable rights, and then abolish that government and replace it with a form of government that's representative of the people because the people don't support this crap anymore.
	Very fascinating, very fascinating breakdown, George Papadopoulos.
	We appreciate you coming back.
	Please come back again sometime soon.
	Absolutely.
	Stu, thank you so much for having me.
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	So, for the past three years, Pfizer and Moderna have evaded pretty much all responsibility and all liability for the damage brought by their bioweapon shots.
	Both companies think that they have ironclad protection.
	Why?
	Well, because they terrified and intimidated and bought off Congress into giving them special carve-outs from liability under law.
	But those carve-outs could be far weaker than pharma executives think.
	In fact, they could be exposed to one of the most devastating waves of lawsuits in history.
	The cause, in one word, is a little thing called SV40. Now, as we discussed on this show way back in the summertime, SV40 is a DNA strand harvested from monkeys, which was included in the synthetic COVID shots.
	But SV40 isn't just some random strand of DNA. No, it's one linked with cancer.
	Yet, the COVID bioweapon shots are full of materials to promote the creation of this specific strand of DNA. So, this would all be bad enough if SV40 had been included in the list of vaccine ingredients set to the FDA, but by the look of things, that never happened.
	Over the weekend, a tweet by our old friend Steve Kirsch went massively viral on Twitter, or X. We'll read it to you in case you missed it.
	Quote, And the FDA is required to take the COVID vaccines off the market.
	Why?
	Adulteration.
	The plasmid bioactive contaminant sequences were not pointed out to the regulatory authorities.
	It's considered adulteration.
	I just got off the phone with Professor Byram Bertle and Dr.
	Robert Malone on this.
	The Michigan remdesivir case is very important precedent here, proving liability shield falls when there is undisclosed contamination of active ingredients.
	The FDA is now at a crossroads.
	Either they admit that they knew about the plasma contamination and fail to disclose that to the public and to the outside committees, or they can claim that they didn't know about it, in which case Pfizer is liable, unquote.
	So it's not just about potential liability lawsuits.
	The SV40 revelation opens the way to other legal actions as well.
	For instance, a federal judge anywhere in America could issue a nationwide injunction banning the production and use of all COVID shots anywhere in America, immediately, on the grounds that irreparable harm will occur if the shots are not stopped.
	But so far, the FDA has taken no action.
	No press conference from Pfizer.
	They've issued no warnings.
	It's given no orders to ban these killer death shots.
	As far as we know, it's not even investigating.
	Why not?
	There's a way to compel action by the FDA. We think.
	But even if not, can the thousands maimed by these shots seek damages?
	Millions, maybe.
	Do we finally have a roadmap to the extreme accountability that we need, that we've been calling for?
	Steve Kirsch has been doing more work on policing the COVID shots than the entire FDA. He's been finding the answers to all these questions, and he joins us now.
	Steve, thank you so much for coming.
	We appreciate you being here.
	Always a pleasure to be here.
	Yeah.
	So we were right way back in the day, SV40. You said it.
	We said it.
	This is a bioweapon.
	It's a patented weapon of biowarfare.
	What now?
	Well, what's going to happen now is that the FDA is going to totally ignore it.
	They won't even acknowledge it.
	If they were going to acknowledge this, they would have done it already.
	They're going to just completely ignore it.
	The drug companies are going to do nothing.
	Health Canada isn't going to ask the drug companies to do any investigations, and they're going to tell the media just to not write about it at all, that it's just a low-level...
	Artifact of the manufacturing process, and it has no clinical significance.
	And that will be their story, and they'll have experts that will say, yes, we've known about this, but this is a non-event.
	This is not material.
	So the fact that there's this monkey strand of DNA called SV40, this thing from monkeys, and this synthetic weapon of biowarfare, It's really just a non-starter.
	This is insignificant.
	These findings are...
	who cares?
	That's the way they're treating it.
	And the law allows the FDA to do nothing.
	So when adulteration is in a vaccine, the FDA can decide to do absolutely nothing.
	And then you have to bring an action.
	You have to bring a petition.
	You have to ask the FDA to investigate.
	And there's a long process that kicks off.
	And then the FDA could come back at the end of the day and say, well, no, we're not going to do anything.
	And so we can pretty much predict what's going to happen.
	If we were to petition the FDA. Now the manufacturers have liability protection here, including for willful deception, for example, unless the Department of Justice brings an action against the drug manufacturers.
	Now the DOJ under The current president is not going to bring any kind of action against the drug companies.
	So that means there can't be any willful misconduct by the drug companies because the law is written that way that you can't sue unless the government sues first.
	So there are lots of protections, but there are some things that are acting against that.
	And one of the things is that Attorney Aaron Seary has filed an action to challenge the PREP Act.
	And he wouldn't file, he's not going to file an action to challenge the PREP Act if he doesn't believe he can succeed on the merits.
	Now, if his lawsuit succeeds, not only does it open the floodgates for this, for the SB40, but also for other, any kind of damages as well.
	But I think what will, from a practical point of view, that may take a little while.
	We don't know how long.
	But what will happen in the meantime is that the drug companies will ignore it, the regulators will ignore it, the press will ignore it, and the experts will say there's nothing to see here, folks, move along.
	Now, what will happen in parallel with that is that we will start investigations to find out if the DNA that's in these vaccines actually gets reincorporated into your DNA. And So those efforts are now underway.
	And the reason that we're doing it is because the FDA isn't doing it, and it's because it's the public's responsibility.
	As you know, the public's responsibility is to protect the public from the government.
	Who doesn't know that millions of people have died suddenly as a result of these shots?
	There's no question that, you know, I was just talking about that.
	You know, Ed Dowd's book, he lists 550 people.
	Who died suddenly.
	And one person complained.
	They said, no, he wasn't vaccinated.
	Shouldn't have been on the cover.
	Okay, so out of 550 people, the only person, only one person was unvaccinated.
	As far as we know, only one person was unvaccinated out of 550.
	Now, last time I checked, only about 75% of America got the COVID vaccine.
	Is that it?
	Yeah, it should be 75%, 25% net ratio.
	The fact that there's only one person in that book, in the 550 listed in that book, who was unvaccinated, that is really, really troubling.
	Because...
	When Ed Dowd put together that book, his criteria was, died suddenly.
	He didn't look into the vaccination status.
	He didn't look, hey, let's try to get only vaccinated people.
	He just looked at people who died suddenly, irregardless of their vaccination status.
	So the fact that only one person has come out...
	And said, I was not vaccinated.
	That is a huge, huge problem for the other side, and they just run for the hills on that one.
	You know, the other huge problem, of course, is there was a movie called Died Suddenly, which you probably know something about, Stu.
	And that movie, the only criticism of that movie is, hey, you used some clips from YouTube maybe that weren't right.
	That's the best they could do out of the entire movie is to say, well, you used a few bad clips that weren't quite relevant.
	You know, these defenses are not credible.
	So...
	The other thing is, I did a survey today, it's got about 5,000 responses, and I've looked at the statistical significance of the results, highly statistically significant, and it shows that the vaccines have caused more death.
	More people have died due to the vaccine than from COVID. That's another real problem.
	Well, why should that be shocking to anybody?
	Yeah, it shouldn't be.
	It shouldn't be.
	But now, you know, before when I surveyed people, they said, oh, no, you have bias in your followers because the reason they became followers is because they had a vaccine death in their family.
	And so you have this disproportionate number of people.
	And so that's skewing the odds.
	Well, it turns out it's not skewing the odds because only 2% of the people actually were in that situation.
	Everybody else basically doesn't vaccinate at all, and they're only reporting for people in their household or family members.
	And in fact, people in their household, it's much lower because...
	They don't vaccinate.
	And so it's only when they look at their extended family that you start to see the actual truth and you see that the vaccine has clearly, without any doubt, killed more people than COVID has.
	This is going to come out.
	There's no way for this to be kept in a bottle.
	And when it does come out, are you now finally a proponent of stringing these people up after they're found guilty of the crimes against humanity that they have perpetuated?
	Oh, I'm always in favor of justice based on what the law says.
	Extreme accountability.
	Not extreme accountability.
	I don't go against what the law says.
	People are out here killing kids.
	We need to respect the laws.
	They're out here killing kids.
	Yeah, the law says you commit crimes against humanity.
	We strung up Saddam Hussein for trying to implement his own system of monetary exchange.
	Come on.
	The guy didn't kill millions of kids.
	These people at Pfizer have done that.
	These people at the Department of Defense did this intentionally.
	What about the unlawful, unconstitutional, overreaching military mandate?
	You know, this graphene oxide, they now admit was in the shots.
	I remember being called the biggest conspiracy theorist in the world because I was the first person to talk about the findings of La Quinta Columna, I remember it very well, with Karen Kingston on this program.
	No!
	That is, you can't say that, Stu!
	Guess what?
	Now it's just like common knowledge.
	Yeah, there's graphene oxide in it, so what?
	And now we're learning that this SV40, which is like this turbo-cancer-causing ingredient, this DNA from monkeys, wasn't even on the list of vaccine ingredients sent to the FDA. This is intentional.
	The drug companies knew about it because they had to have known about it because they would have taken these sequences and they would have run it through a computer program which...
	We'll point out that there's an SV40 promoter and various components of SV40 in it.
	And what it looks like is that they just erased that when they gave it to the FDA because it would have come out in any of these programs.
	And so this is the trouble.
	What's troubling, of course, is that Pfizer is not denying this.
	They're not denying that there's SV40 in their vaccine.
	They can't.
	And they're not denying that they deliberately hid it from the FDA because the FDA didn't know about it.
	So there's no way that Pfizer could not have known about this.
	And so they basically tried to pull a fast one.
	They tried to get it by the FDA by not putting it in the list of active ingredients, which is fraud.
	But it's okay because the FDA works for Pfizer.
	Similarly, the FAA nor major airline carriers are arguing that they have the incapacitation of pilots happening all the time, that they have pilots dropping dead.
	Two million people are in the air on an average day, every day, traveling across the face of the planet.
	They're not denying that.
	They don't have an argument for it.
	They're not holding press conferences.
	They're not discussing it.
	They're not You know, appeasing the public.
	They're not, you know, cautioning anyone.
	They're not saying anything about it.
	No, they haven't done a single investigation.
	As far as I know, they haven't done a single investigation.
	So you've got millions of people flying around every day with ticking time bombs on the flight deck, in the cockpit, and you're still not about stringing these people up when they're found guilty of doing this?
	Like I said, I'm in favor of pursuing these people to the maximum extent allowable under United States law.
	They're going to keep doing it.
	If we don't break their necks on international television after they're found guilty with a thorough and speedy trial...
	Due process, of course, unlike January 6th, prisoners of war that are being held on U.S. soil at the hands of this Department of Justice.
	Unlike that, we uphold the rule of law.
	We are in favor of upholding the rule of law.
	The rule of law says if you kill innocent kids on a mass scale like this, you commit a genocide, whatever you want to call it, crimes against humanity, that yes, the death penalty absolutely is on the table.
	That may well be.
	And it probably should be because a lot of people have died.
	But the question is, what was the criminal intent?
	Did people know?
	Was there plausible deniability?
	Everybody knows that, what these people convinced you to do to yourself.
	It's really hard for people to admit that, Steve.
	I mean, I admire you because you're out here doing your part to expose this and admitting...
	I was duped.
	People can't do that.
	A lot of people, and even if they can, like you, most people will never be able to admit what they were led to do to their children.
	I mean, there are people out there dealing with a tremendous amount of guilt here.
	People that are dealing with tremendous amounts of remorse and regret.
	They're looking at their kids saying, look at what these people made me do to them.
	Yeah, extreme accountability is the only thing that should be on the table, as far as I'm concerned.
	These people are animals.
	They did this to enrich themselves, trillions of dollars.
	I was just at a CVS the other day, pulled up, and it said, yeah, get your free bivalent COVID flu vaccine now.
	It's free.
	This is still happening.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And it will continue to happen no matter what the data says.
	You know, there was a paper that was published in JAMA, and it was VA data, and they actually ended up inadvertently Showing that there's no benefit from the COVID vaccine and there's no benefit from the flu vaccine either.
	There's no hospitalization benefit.
	There's no infection benefit from either one of these vaccines.
	And it's very clear in the paper.
	And so I contacted the author of the paper and I said, hey, you know, your paper accidentally, you probably didn't realize this, but your paper accidentally basically proved That the COVID vaccines and the flu vaccines don't work.
	And he said, well, I wasn't supposed to do that, and we didn't really have a control group on the other thing, so you can't really scientifically conclude that.
	And so I wrote him back, and I said, look, the chances of this thing not being what I just said are virtually zero.
	You know, let's be real here.
	And he stopped talking to me.
	Well, we believe that these things absolutely did work for their intended purpose.
	And that's the train that we've been on from the very beginning.
	A lot of people have been reluctant to go there, but are you just millimeters away from kind of coming to the realization that this was intentional?
	No, no.
	Look, I don't have a smoking gun that shows that there was intent to harm here.
	What I do have evidence of...
	The ongoing push would be one.
	No, there was clear cutting of corners in making these vaccines.
	They were improperly tested.
	There were inadequate specifications.
	The drug companies weren't held accountable.
	The FDA was simply buying everything that the drug companies were saying and everybody's going around believing that these vaccines are saving tens of millions of lives.
	This is just simply not true.
	They're producing government data that we're supposed to believe, but the UK is pretty sophisticated in terms of government data.
	I just finished writing a substack about how the UK data is virtually useless.
	The reason that we can tell that is because the UK revealed enough detail about their data so that we could do a Self-check, consistency check on the data, and we find that the data is extremely flawed.
	Now, we can't do that in the United States because they don't give us enough detail behind the data because the CDC itself lacks the detail.
	Because they're lying to cover up their murders.
	No, they're basically, they have this willful blindness.
	They're not wanting to get any of the vaccination data from the state, so they don't have to look at it, and they can't say, hey, we did, you know, they can say, hey, we didn't know because they didn't know because they're not asking for the data.
	They don't want, they don't want to know, Stu, and they don't want you to know either, and this is why public health data Is kept under wraps.
	No mass murderer wants you to know that they're a mass murderer.
	No killer is ever going to admit that they committed a crime.
	I got a minute left.
	They sure don't want you to know.
	I just want to hear your response to this.
	I want to hear this.
	In a minute, can you please tell me this?
	Explain how these shots were available from the drug makers long before COVID-19 ever even was a thing.
	That's a little hard for me to explain, Stu.
	I don't know the answer to that.
	So it doesn't really have anything to do with shoddy manufacturing.
	It doesn't have anything to do with not enough time to inspect them or do safety.
	Well, Stu, you know, Moderna's sequence, the sequences in Moderna's patented product are found in the virus.
	And they were asked about, so how did that get there?
	And they said, we're going to look into it.
	They never ended up answering that question.
	And still, you're unwilling to admit premeditation.
	There's a lot of questions that go through my mind.
	You'll get there.
	You'll get there.
	Yep.
	The SB40 story is big.
	I'm glad that we called it in the summer and that we're now vindicated.
	I'm hoping that you're right when you said, quote, breaking, you can now sue the mRNA COVID vaccine manufacturers for damages.
	I'm hoping that you're right that the FDA is now required to take the COVID vaccines off the market.
	They're not required.
	Well, I misspoke.
	They're not required.
	I believed at the time.
	I double-checked the law.
	The FDA is allowed to do nothing.
	Now, they should take it off the market, right?
	If there's adulteration in a vaccine with an active ingredient that could irreparably harm people, they should take it off the market.
	Every single stockpile, in every warehouse, in every clinic and pharmacy, they should incinerate them immediately, and then they should deploy law enforcement officials to arrest all of the people responsible for bringing them to market, and they should be tried.
	And then when they're found guilty, they should be held to extreme accountability.
	Yeah, Dr.
	Joseph Latipo in Florida, I remember back during the summer, we had him on the program and he said, yeah, I'm now giving guidance to recommend against these things for males under the age of, I think he said 35, maybe 45, something like whatever he said.
	I confronted him and I said, well, why should anybody take it?
	It's got no positive outcome.
	It's all negative.
	People are dying suddenly all over the place.
	He gave me some politically charged answer.
	Everybody knows.
	Latipo knows.
	Everybody knows that these things are killing everybody that takes them.
	Nobody should be getting these vaccines.
	There's no question about it.
	No, they're not vaccines.
	The data is very clear.
	Just look at the definition of a vaccine before they changed it.
	These have never been vaccines.
	Steve Kirsch, thank you so much for coming back on short notice.
	We always appreciate you being here.
	Sure.
	Always great to talk to you, Steve.
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