The Richard Leonard Show: Memorial Day And Its Importance
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In the wake of Memorial Day, I thought that it would be appropriate that we spend time on the show today to have a discussion or just to give you my thoughts about how I believe that Memorial Day is observed and what, not that it's bad.
but some things that maybe we could do better as a society, as a community, when this time of year rolls around.
So today we're just gonna talk about that.
I got some stuff to share with you and some thoughts as usual.
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Okay, so, you know, in the wake of Memorial Day, we are, of course, a few days into June now, I thought that it would be appropriate that we just kind of take some time.
I believe that Memorial Day is something that should be observed regularly.
Multiple times throughout the year.
For me Memorial Day is every day.
There isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about the sacrifice and the fortitude that it takes to give us what we have here in this country now.
Of course things in our country could be a whole lot better.
I think we all would agree on that.
But just to remember, right?
Remember everything that was done, the sacrifices that were made for us to have the things that we have now, even though at times it seems like our country is falling apart and hope may be lost.
I believe that we still...
We still have the greatest place on the planet to live, even though it seems to be falling apart all around us at times.
So I thought that I did a little bit of research, you know, and I think that we all know this stuff, but here's just a little bit to put it into perspective.
So I went on to my computing machine here.
And I just searched Memorial Day 2023.
And the only thing, and I'm sure everyone will not be surprised, the only thing in the first page and a half to two pages on my search results were advertisements for sales.
And I get it, right?
It's, you know, businesses need to make money too.
And as I said in the intro, I don't think that there is a ton of things wrong with the way Memorial Day is observed.
I mean, after all, this freedom to have whatever you want, of course, was afforded by the blood, sweat, and tears of many men and women throughout the ages.
But I think that doing it with the idea in mind that Memorial Day is not just about that.
Be thankful that this day comes around and you can get 60% off your patio furniture.
I feel like I'm going down a rabbit hole here.
But anyway, I found a website, for example, that had over 100 sales, right, for the weekend.
And then they're probably going to continue for a week or so after.
But here's the other thing.
I then Googled, how do we observe or how do we celebrate Memorial Day?
What are you supposed to do?
And here's what I found.
There's like the first five, five or six results on a page where I got it here on the screen.
By wearing your Memorial Day button from the first of May up until Memorial Day.
Visiting cemeteries and placing flags or flowers on the graves of our fallen heroes.
That's a pretty cool one, I think.
I know here in Minneapolis at our National Cemetery, it's a pretty amazing deal to drive up to the place and just see hundreds and hundreds of flags at the headstones of all the folks buried there.
Flying the U.S. flag at half-staff until noon by attending religious services of your choice and visiting memorials.
It's my opinion that we should be flying a flag anyway.
Day, night, rain, sleet, snow, blizzard, sunshine, monsoon, typhoon, any of that.
I once had an interaction, a house that I used to own.
Before I got married, I had a flag flying in front of my house.
You know, the one you mount on the wall and the flag kinda sits canted.
But it never came down.
It was up 24 hours a day and when it got tattered, I replaced it.
And one of my neighbors that lived a couple doors down, I called him the male Gladys Kravitz of the neighborhood.
Always had comments, always had questions.
He asked me, he's like, well, how come you don't take down your flag when the weather's bad?
You don't take it down at night.
It's always up.
And I said, well, sir, let me ask you a question.
When the weather's bad, or it's too hot, or it's too cold, or the rain is coming down too hard, or the snow is flying in sideways and piling up feet at a time, as we have in Minnesota, do you think that our soldiers stop fighting?
They stop doing their job when the elements are too much to bear?
Do our soldiers fight in the dark?
I mean, it's not, soldiering isn't just a nine to five job, right?
When you're engaged in military operations, whether it be combat or service, combat service support, or even if you're a cook, soldiers gotta eat, right?
Everybody has a job to do and the operation and the mission doesn't stop just because of the weather.
And I don't think that Mr.
Kravitz liked it very much, but that's the answer.
That's the answer I have in my house today.
My flag is up 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
It never comes down.
In fact, I have three in the closet that are ready to go, right?
You never know when one's gonna get torn or ripped off the pole or whatever.
It's all happened before.
And so I think that there are things that we can do, of course, to observe Memorial Day more appropriately.
And I don't see anything wrong personally with Having barbecues and having sales and getting a good deal on patio furniture or whatever it is, a new TV or a mattress or furniture.
It seems like everything that's for sale in any retail store at this time of year is on sale.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
I would just ask or I would hope that everybody takes time out of their weekend, out of their holiday, Or throughout the whole holiday, the whole weekend, the whole month, whatever.
And give some thought to why we have this holiday.
Just think about it.
Think about what was sacrificed.
Think about what was...
The lives of family members of soldiers that were altered.
Children, parents, brothers, sisters, friends, coworkers, bosses, all that stuff.
Teammates.
There are many lives altered.
By somebody's military service.
And to be honest, whether they die during service or not, I believe that just serving in the military alters the life of the people around you.
Because it's a whole different, supposed to be, it has been, and I should say it was, a whole different way of life.
I think that the way that things are going now in the military...
They don't look like what they looked like in the early 2000s when I got in.
They don't look like they did in the 90s and the 80s.
Not a chance.
Excuse me.
So, just be mindful of that and have conversations about it.
I think everybody knows.
Well, I shouldn't say everybody knows because I can't tell you how many text messages that I get.
This time of year, especially on Memorial Day, thanking me for my service.
And I don't know that it's not a malicious thing.
I think it's genuine.
The people that are close to me that appreciate my service are genuine about it.
But it's a lack of education.
And so, when I have friends or family members text me or call me or email me or whatever and say, hey, happy Memorial Day, thank you for your service, I try to correct them.
Thank you for your service and to folks like myself and Jason, Ben Krause, who's been on this show, other veterans, our day is in November.
Memorial Day is for the people, the soldiers, the sailors, the airmen, the marines that we've lost along the way.
And so I'll send them a gentle reminder, you know, that this time of the season, this time of the year, is about the ones that we've lost.
And, you know, what's interesting is that usually you get, yeah, man, I know that.
I just wanted to make sure you knew that I appreciated you as well, which is great.
It doesn't upset me.
I just see it as a teaching moment and a learning opportunity for those people.
But you get them year after year after year, you know, and it is what it is.
I would hope that all these people certainly understand what the real meaning of the day is and that they're observing it that way.
Because I think maybe that's part of what we have going on in this country now.
We have done, not we, but people in our society and our communities have worked pretty hard to try to erase Some pretty major parts of our past.
And I think that they are starting to and will be surely forgotten.
Whether they were right, wrong or indifferent.
I hope that it doesn't come to be that all this stuff just goes off into nothing land and we just don't remember.
A very wise person once said, the reason why we have these reminders of the past is so that we don't repeat it.
I think it's pretty good words to live by.
We've run short of time on the segment.
We'll be right back.
Stick with us.
Hey guys, welcome back here to the show.
Before we took a break, I was kind of just up on my soapbox a little bit about my opinions of Memorial Day.
Or at least what used to be my opinion of Memorial Day and the way that the community kind of celebrates it.
And I had other things planned to discuss, to talk about as it relates to Memorial Day until I came across a A Facebook post of a friend of mine who is a young man who is in his early to mid-20s.
Very wise.
He's a very wise guy for being the age that he is and the life experience that he's had.
But he is currently training for an Ironman.
And so in this video on Facebook that he posted, he was out on a run and he was walking back to the house or the car or something.
And just shared a couple minutes of his way to observe Memorial Day that he learned from a gentleman by the name of Sean Ryan.
Now, Sean Ryan is an ex-SEAL, an ex-CIA contractor.
He has about, according to what I read, he has about 14 years of service to the country.
Both military and CIA experience.
He did some pretty crazy things.
I'm sure a lot of the stuff that he did he still can't discuss, still can't talk about.
But the little bit that I've watched of him, and I will probably watch more regularly now, man, and the folks that he interviews.
So he also has his own podcast, and it's called The Sean Ryan Show.
You can find it on YouTube.com.
But he also is the owner of an organization called Vigilance Elite where he also posts his content.
And what he does is he gives military members or veterans along with other people from these three letter agencies in that community gives them an opportunity to use his platform to talk about their stories and the stories that you probably won't hear certainly on the mainstream media they won't tell you any of this stuff But some of the other places,
other outlets, we don't hear much of it either.
We hear a lot about what may be happening and what might be going down and who might know.
But some of the people that he has on are the folks that lived it.
He posted a Memorial Day message, and I thought it was pretty powerful, and I found it through Luke, who was talking about it on his Facebook post, so I kind of went around the block to go across the street there, but that's Mr.
Sean Ryan, and I could...
Certainly regurgitate his words to you, but I wanted to just share the clip with you because I think that, you know, there's no better way to hear it than from the actual guy that spoke it.
So let's get Sean Ryan here.
This is part of his Memorial Day message that he posted on Facebook.
There he is there.
All right, let's check this out and then we'll discuss it.
And as civilians, some of you are, you want to know how can you honor these guys, these men and women, these service members that have you want to know how can you honor these guys, these men and women, these service members our sense of security, our freedoms in this country.
And I know that can be tough.
Vets get real grumpy around this time of year.
We've lost a lot of brothers.
And to us, that's family.
You thank us for our service.
We get upset.
Because it's not about us.
But I'm here to tell you one thing.
It doesn't matter what we think.
Here's what matters.
When you go home tonight and you look at yourself in the mirror, you're getting ready for bed, you look at yourself in the mirror and you ask yourself one question.
Here it is.
Was I an American who was worth dying for?
today?
And if the answer is yes, you're doing everything those service members that died for us would have you're doing everything those service members that died for us would have I Carry out our traditions.
Carry out our culture.
Stand up for what you believe in.
Stand up for what's right.
That's all you need to do.
Just ask yourself, was I an American who was worth dying for today?
And for us servicemen...
We went a little bit past there.
That'll be the start of the next clip, but...
How powerful are those words?
When you look in the mirror, can you honestly say that you were an American that was worth the sacrifice?
Do you portray and live your life In a way that made the sacrifice of so many men and women worth it.
And I think kind of the way that I processed this for myself was if I could put myself in the heavenly boots Of any of these men and women that have paid the ultimate sacrifice for this country,
if I could put myself in their position, being up in heaven looking down on me, Can I honestly say that they would see the person that I am, the way that I lead my life, the way that I treat other people, just the fabric of my being?
Are those folks up there looking down on me and saying, alright, it was worth it?
And I think it's a powerful thing to think about.
And I don't know that we, as a society of people, I don't know that we think about things that deeply.
Most of us.
Clearly there are some out there that do.
I've never thought about it this way.
I'm a little embarrassed to say that, but I haven't.
But I'll tell you one thing.
From here on out, for the rest of my days, I will.
And I'll think about that, not just on Memorial Day of every year, but all the time.
If it's important to you.
I'm sure that there's many people out there that really don't give a crap what the men and women that fought for this country would care about the way that they lead their lives.
But I do.
I think many Americans would care about that and would use that as a way to kind of put their lives into perspective.
It's a pretty selfless thing to serve.
you Well, I take that back.
It's not pretty selfless.
It is.
It is a selfless thing.
I can promise you that folks don't really join the military because they're going to be rich.
They don't join because it's an easy lifestyle.
And depending on what you choose to do with your military career, I mean, some are probably easier than others, I'm sure.
And the way that you go about it and the way you navigate the system can make it easier.
But serving this country is a selfless act.
And I believe that as Americans we should keep that in perspective.
I don't know that it should govern the way that we live our lives because I think that as Americans if you're an overall good person and you're doing the right thing and you're treating people the right way and you're helping your neighbor and And standing up for what's right and doing the right thing, I think you already are doing that.
I think that those that are above looking down on us would already support that and look at you as a person that was worth their sacrifice.
And so, from here on out, When folks ask me, well, what's a good way to celebrate Memorial Day?
How do I observe the holiday?
Some of those other things that we mentioned earlier in the show, you know, flying your flag at half-staff and visiting the memorials, reading the tablets on these memorials to find out what they're about and then do some digging to learn more about what happened.
Visiting the cemetery and placing flags, volunteering to place flags at the headstones of past veterans that have passed on.
That's all well and good, and by all means even, go and get your patio furniture and get a new mattress and do this and do that.
Like I said, I don't think that there's a whole lot wrong with that.
But when all that is said and done, at the end of the day, were you an American that was worth the sacrifice?
All those lives that we talked about that are altered due to military service, were you worth that? - Thank you.
Some young man or young woman's mom and dad and sister and brother and best friend and dog and co-workers and teammates and whatever.
Were you worth the altering of all of those lives?
I think that's strong words.
I think that's strong words.
I think that we also need to address the way that veterans feel and see Memorial Day.
Talk a little bit about it already.
But there's also some statistics maybe that I want to share with you.
So when we come back from the next break, we have a couple more minutes of a clip from the same message.
In fact, I was not paying attention to the clock, as usual, and kind of went past and started the first couple seconds of it.
But we'll get to all that.
We'll get to all that when we come back from the break.
Stick with us.
We'll be right back.
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Hey guys, welcome here for the next segment of the show.
In the last one we talked about this Memorial Day message from Sean Ryan.
The way to observe it, what he tells people is to take a look in the mirror and decide whether or not you were worth the sacrifice.
Were you worth dying for?
I want to continue down this road, and I want to share with you the way that he advises veterans take a look at themselves and at Memorial Day, because I believe that it's two different things, right?
It's the way that civilians or non-military people Look at the holiday are a whole lot different, and I think that it's pretty clear.
So let's look at this.
It's only a couple minutes again, and then we'll discuss it.
Here we go.
And for us service members and veterans, today's tough.
I know what you see.
We all see the same things.
We see the Furniture store with 50 American flags out front with not one mention of one of those 1.1 million people who died for them to even have that furniture sale.
We see the parties.
We see the car sales.
We see the carpet sales.
We see everybody trying to make money.
But there's a lot of good people in this country, too, and we have to remember that.
And they're just looking for a way to show appreciation.
And we have to remember something.
We carry a lot of resentment.
We carry a lot of weight.
And no matter what we do, that's never gonna go away.
But if we remember this one thing, Our brothers, our sisters, our family, the people that we fought with,
that didn't come home, they wouldn't want us carrying that weight.
They wouldn't want us feeling that resentment.
They just want us living our best lives.
They want us to be happy.
That's why they did it.
Hmm.
Pretty interesting.
I think what he's getting at there is...
That the men and women who have sacrificed and given everything, it's not lost on their spirit that the weight Of the burden,
the weight of the sacrifice is carried by those of us that made it home.
They know that.
They know that their brothers and sisters fought their asses off.
They worked hard.
And that's the ugly thing about war, right?
Is that you are walking into a situation that you know you may not walk out of.
And I believe that Sean is right.
I believe that the spirit of the ones we've lost...
They wouldn't want you to carry that burden.
And I agree with him.
It's a hard pill to swallow.
Because it's not just...
Here's the thing, folks.
We're not just coworkers, right?
Soldiers aren't just coworkers.
Training, for example, basic training, right, is, or was, I guess I don't know anymore, is, or was, I guess I don't know anymore, but basic training is an ass kicker.
The whole purpose of the program is to break you down and tear you down to the studs and then rebuild you to be a fighter, right?
Rebuild you to be hard, to use speed and violence of action to annihilate an enemy by any means necessary.
To change your psyche and the way that you process the world.
It's all changed.
And it's doable, clearly.
But the point is, when you go through that experience with a set group of people, even if it's just one other person, or you hear people talk about how they join the military with their buddies from high school or the neighborhood guys all join together and they serve together.
When you go through that experience, With other people.
It makes you more than just friends.
It makes you more than just co-workers.
It makes you brothers.
And so...
Going through an experience like war or combat...
With those people and then losing one or two or all of them is a lot.
I mean, if you think about it, those of you who've never served, think about this.
Think about going through the hardest time of your life.
Going through a time in your life when you wanted to quit.
You wanted to give up.
It was hard.
It was painful.
The light at the end of the tunnel, if there was any, seems like barely a pinhole.
And the only thing you have to make it through is your own fortitude and the guy next to you or the gal next to you.
And as time goes by, that pinhole grows.
And when you reach the end, the pinhole is turned into an opening the size of a train tunnel.
And all you gotta do is step through it.
And then when you make it through that, and you stop and you think and you reflect, On the experience that you just had.
And you realize, hey man, the two or three or four or five of us, we never would have did it without each other.
And the truth may be that you would, right?
I mean, for some folks, you know, they can make it through just about anything alone.
But in this game, you don't have to.
And majority of the people, in my opinion, don't.
If you do it alone, you're going to fail.
In fact, that's one of the first lessons that we learned in basic training.
If you're an individual, we fail as a team.
Success and failure in the military, in my experience, came as a team.
We failed as a team.
We succeeded as a team.
And those people who decided to be individuals and try to do it on their own and looked out for their own ass and their own career and their own this and their own that, failed.
But we failed as a team.
Because as we've discussed on this show before, it takes a lot of people to make that wheel go round.
Right?
For every combat soldier, there's a whole slew of other soldiers doing their job to ensure that that combat soldier can do their job correctly.
So as an infantryman, I need my supply guy to be shit hot, have the stuff we need when we need it so that we don't miss our SP time and we get out on mission when we're supposed to and we have everything we need to be where we need at the time we need to be there.
We need our medics to have their supplies in their bag and ready to go.
We need the mechanics and the maintenance personnel to ensure that our vehicles are running properly.
Anything that was broken needs to be fixed because that's your lifeline.
The armors that we have need to know how to work on our weapons to ensure that they're working properly because that's really your lifeline.
In combat, if your weapon isn't working properly, you might as well not even go, or go without it, because at that point it's a paperweight.
A lot of that responsibility, by the way, falls on the individual soldier to clean it and to recognize when it needs to go to the armor to be repaired.
The admin personnel need to make sure that they're on their shit so that when and if something happens, everything, there's no questions.
There's no questions about who's the next of kin and if I'm getting paid properly.
I mean, all that stuff.
Everything that happens to every soldier takes somebody else and usually multiple people doing their job correctly for the success of the mission.
Can you imagine leaving a base and going out to walk the streets of Baghdad to fight, but having in the back of your mind that you didn't get paid yesterday because somebody made a mistake or there was something going on and that's what you're thinking about when you're out walking the streets trying to fight and fight a war?
Because now at home, maybe your wife doesn't have the paycheck, so the rent's going to be late, and maybe there's no food in the kitchen, but you still have to support your family even while you're halfway across the world.
Just imagine that.
So I believe that Sean is on to something.
Even though it's hard to swallow the pill that the folks that died wouldn't want us to carry that burden.
It is tough.
It's hard.
But I think that we owe it to ourselves as veterans and we owe it to the men and women we lost to do what we can do To live out our days in peace and happiness, in comfort, if we can.
Because I don't know that there's much more that we owe this country.
I don't know that there's much more that we owe the people that are benefiting from our sacrifice.
And they're the ones The folks that didn't serve, they need to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they're worth it.
Stick with us, we'll be right back.
Hey guys, welcome here to the last segment of the show.
Man, I'm reflecting, right?
I'm doing some self-reflection here.
Uh, about the, the things that we've talked about today, uh, mostly the second and the third segment of the show, uh, where we're kind of dissecting the words of, of, of Sean Ryan.
And, um, I gotta tell ya, it's heavy, but just to, to, to kind of drum up some, some old stuff and put, and to help put things into perspective, um, It's powerful.
It's powerful and I hope that some of this is powerful for you too and that it initiates some kind of conversations with people around you or just your own self-thought.
I wanted to just kind of put all of this into a little bit more perspective by sharing with you some statistics.
So, since before the beginning Of this country.
So basically from the Revolutionary War to today, 2023, there has been roughly 1.1 million service members that have paid the ultimate sacrifice.
1.1 million.
And why is this important?
I bring this up and I think that it's important because if we were to just compare 1.1 million people to today's population, it would be roughly 0.3% of our population.
Less than half of a percent of our population Today, have died for this country, for you, for me, and for everything we hold dear.
And by the way, these are statistics again that Sean shared in his Memorial Day message.
There is roughly 366 million people living in the United States of America today.
And throughout the entirety that the United States of America has been a country, we've lost 1.1 million people.
So It's important because when days like Memorial Day come around year after year, It's such a small number.
Now, you might be asking how many people ever have served in the military and you know that number, I don't know that number.
It's got to be a ton of people.
But to think about the idea that 1.1 million people Have died for you.
Think about it that way.
Have given up their lifestyle.
Have given up time with their family and their friends.
Given up jobs, maybe.
Given up all kinds of stuff.
Sacrifice.
For you to live in, some would say arguably, the greatest country in the world.
I think that those are things that are hard to put into perspective.
It's hard to imagine just one person.
Jumping in front of a bullet for me.
One person putting their life, or my life, in their hands.
And then having to pay the ultimate sacrifice.
But one million people did that for me?
That's big stuff, man.
And so I think that...
Here's another example, by the way.
Stu Peters and I, we spent many, many years together hunting down some of the most dangerous fugitives in our communities.
I mean, we hunted down people who were wanted for gangs, guns, drugs, rape, murder, all that stuff.
We brought people to justice who were carrying weapons.
I can even recall, this is a crazy story, the whole night is crazy.
There was one winter night in St.
Paul, we were chasing a guy through an apartment complex.
The guy pulled out a gun, turned around and pointed it at Stu and pulled the trigger and it didn't go off.
And then he got Ray Lewis'd.
I Ray Lewis does ask in the courtyard of this apartment complex.
And, you know, when we were going out and doing this work, it was just him and I.
We succeeded together.
When we had failures, we failed together.
Very similar to a military team.
I knew for certain, beyond a shadow of a doubt, That if it came down to one of us having to pay the ultimate sacrifice or to be hurt or killed or whatever, I would have done that before I let it happen to Stu.
Stu would have done the same thing for me.
Had we not had that brotherhood, had we not been that close, had we not been dedicated to the job and to each other and to our survival and to our success, we would have failed together.
And so I think all of these things, they're just so much more different than Than the types of success and failure that we come across in the civilian world.
And don't get me wrong, nobody likes to fail.
I think that many of us as Americans are pretty competitive, and I think we should be because I think competition breeds greatness.
But the cost of failure many times in the civilian world...
It's so much different.
If I fail at my job at the Harley Davidson dealership, my income suffers, my pride suffers.
Of course, it's not a desirable outcome for anybody.
But those are things that you can get back.
You can get another job.
You can make the income.
You can feel better about yourself over time once you find a couple more successes.
But in this game of combat and things of that nature, you don't get that stuff back when you fail.
And not even necessarily failure.
and I mean, as we discussed, you are knowingly walking into a situation that very clearly you may not walk out of.
And so, as we think about all the stuff that we discussed today, let us not forget Ever.
That 1.1 million people and counting have died for you.
And so some of this stuff, I think, you know, like when we were discussing how veterans carry on through Memorial Day.
It's just it's not it's not an easy conversation for one to have with with themselves.
for sure, but with others as well.
I mean, we see it, right?
There's all kinds of issues that veterans have on top of.
You know, shortcomings by our government and the VA and stuff like that.
But, you know, it's very well known that veteran suicide is an issue.
Veteran homelessness is an issue.
You know, addiction issues, relationship, all that stuff.
There's just a plethora of issues that service members have.
But at the end of the day, when all the smoke clears...
I'm confident that we'll be able to understand at least those of us who served.
And I hope that those who haven't can realize too that Memorial Day is something that should be celebrated all the time.
It's great to have a day to set aside to remember.
But my challenge to you People who are watching or listening or whatever is to keep those things in the back of your mind every day.
Because when and if this country falls or if it would have fell, none of it would matter.
Because, you know, for example, if we failed in World War II, We would have no idea today what it is that we're missing out on.
So keep that stuff into perspective.
We're running low on time here.
The last thing that I want to share with you was Sean Ryan's final words.
And he offered them up to other veterans.
Well, to everybody, but I believe that veterans will understand this a whole lot more.
What he said was, and apparently this was written on the hooch that he slept in when he was in Afghanistan.
Those words are, for those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor.
Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.
They'll never taste it.
For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.
Powerful stuff.
Um...
I just want to say thank you, everybody.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you for watching.
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And finally, Sean Ryan, thank you for your message.
I appreciate it, and it changed the way that I view My whole experience and the way that I will carry on.