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June 3, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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JESUS. GUNS. AND BABIES. w/ Dr. Kandiss Taylor ft. Sheila Matthews
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Basically, the United States revealed that 23% of the mass shooters have been on psychiatric medications.
Hey everybody, welcome to Jesus Gems and Babies.
I'm your host, Dr.
Candice Taylor.
We have an amazing show for you today.
You are in for a treat.
You're going to love it.
We're going to start with Revelation 22, 17.
And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come.
And let he who hears say, Come.
And let him who thirsts come.
Whoever desires, let him take water of life freely.
Amen.
So, Revelation is something that all of us, I think, have been looking more into and studying because it feels like our whole world is falling apart.
And so, that verse, it's kind of life to the soul and what God will provide when you reach out to Him and His Holy Spirit and He gives you life.
That's what He came to give us was life more abundantly.
So, tonight, we're going to have on our show Sheila Matthews with Able Child.
So, welcome Sheila to the show.
Thank you very much for having me here.
I'm having, Sheila, I'm having, I told you before we came on here, I'm having a little bit of allergy issues.
I don't know what is going on.
So, I sound a little nasally tonight, guys.
Y'all just stick with me.
I feel fine.
I just sound terrible.
So, Sheila, I'd like to start with your story and kind of Why you got involved with ABLE Child, why you got involved with what your passion is, and where that comes from as your childhood or college or life.
And if you'll just tell everybody a little bit about who you are, then when we get into all the issues, they care about what you say.
Absolutely.
I'm a mom of two boys and I got into working on this issue and creating ablechild.org based on sending my son to school at the age of seven.
He was really excited about school.
He started talking really early and he was I'm very excited to start.
Telling me he needed to be on psychiatric drugs and everything in my body said that I didn't want to do it and I didn't know much about it and I really felt as though I was overwhelmed and so then I the night before my meeting and I'm sure there's lots of parents out there that know about these team meetings at the school where it's just you and the entire administration And you don't really
have the background or the education that they do and so you're in a vulnerable situation.
I was getting ready for one of those meetings and I had a moment, a God moment.
The night before I was very nervous about the meeting and I turned on C-SPAN to see a mom testifying before Congress on Behavioral drugs in schools and how she put her son on Paxil, which is an antidepressant.
And she did not recognize her son and her son ended up attacking her, going after her with a knife.
And he was very young, like my son.
And they were about the same age, seven.
And so she was brought to Congress by the CCHR, the Citizens Commission on Human Rights.
And so I called her and I got her number and she said, Sheila...
Please trust me.
And when you go into this meeting, tell them that you don't believe in attention deficit disorder.
And I was like, well, I don't even know what it is.
So, okay.
I trusted this mom and I went to school and said, you know, I really don't believe in this.
And I don't want my son on these drugs.
So with that, I ended up starting this nonprofit with this other mom.
I went to Connecticut and testified, and we joined other organizations throughout the country and other parents, and we were very helpful in passing the first federal law, which is called the Prohibition on Mandatory Medication,
which was really championed by the psychiatric watchdog, CCHR. Basically, that's how I started in this, and that was 20 years ago, or more than that.
My son was 70, he's 30 now, so you could do the math there, but he's a thriving adult, and he's never been on psychiatric My school was really scaring me.
They were saying at the time, oh, he's going to self-medicate and he needs this.
And that was where I felt like I didn't have the courage without this other mother standing up for me.
So we really started to get into this issue pretty deep.
It's interesting, Shayla.
It's very similar to what my brother went through.
My brother's a drug addict today.
He struggles with pain medicine and even meth because pain medicine is so expensive, so that's his drug of choice.
And then he got on heroin and he got on meth because he couldn't afford, you know, the Dilaudids and the Roxys and all the things that he wants to take.
But from four years old, he was told he had ADHD and oppositional defiance disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder.
And I mean, he was just a July birthday, end of July.
And he was one of the youngest ones.
He started school right whenever he turned four years old.
And they wanted to put him on medication.
And my mama was not an educator.
She worked at a nuclear power plant.
And my aunt, who was an educator, told her don't start into school.
Let him wait for he's a year older.
He's a boy and they mature, you know, slower and he's, you know, hyper and just, you know, whatever.
And my mama, you know, she didn't want to pay for daycare for another year.
And I was really good in school, was gifted, very smart.
And so my mama was like, you know what?
You know, Kenny did fine.
I'm just going to send Chase home.
Well, he has struggled, you know, his whole life.
And it wasn't that he wasn't smart.
His IQ was above average.
He just was a boy.
And he, you know, wanted to do boy things.
And we try to push kids into a mold.
And so I think it's very interesting that you were calling...
Antidepressants, you know, psychological medication because a lot of people don't do that and I have a PhD in counseling and I did all the pharmaceutical research and all the courses with medication and it is anything that alters your functionality of your brain and how we respond even to behaviors is a psychological medication because you're using it to treat human behavior.
But we don't often refer to it that way.
We try to soften it by calling it antidepressant or mood stabilizer or maybe we don't call it psychotropic drug.
But it does affect your mood and your hormone levels and your chemicals in your brain that release serotonin and dopamine and you're messing with all those things.
So yes, it's a psychological medication.
Yes, I was not warned.
And the mission statement of ABLE Child is informed consent and the right to refuse psychiatric drugs.
And so I'm well aware of some of the studies, like the Berkeley study, where Ritalin is a gateway drug into drug addiction.
And that's the Berkeley study that said that.
So we have these young children being placed on all these mind-altering drugs.
And they're not being told that these drugs are exactly that.
They're mind altering and they have very bad side effects.
And a lot of these children are put on multiple amounts of them that some are not FDA approved for use in children.
You know, it's stimulant medication.
And so, actually, it rewires your brain and your synapses and how they fire.
And I know all of these things.
And at the time, my brother's 11 years younger than me, so I was in college.
And I didn't know, you know, I have a terminal degree, I have four degrees.
But I was not through all that coursework when he was put on medication.
I was a teenager and then I was in college.
And so, I started, you know, pushing back on my mama, you know, on the medication and saying, Mama, I think he needs to come off.
But he had been on Ritalin and Caserta and Risperdal and Seroquin, all kind of stuff.
And, you know, antidepressants too, along with it.
And then medicine helps him sleep and all the things.
And I know pharmaceutical medication reroutes your brain synapses.
And it reroutes the pathways in your brain.
And it makes you dependent on the medication.
And so you've got the stimulant medication.
And, of course, my brother, he ended up loving...
the pain medicine which kind of numbs those receptors because he had had so much stimulant medication all of his life so when he finally took the pain medicine it kind of almost numbed the ends of the receptors and it made him feel normal and you will never convince me without research and I'm a researcher so I love the research but you'll never convince me without showing me anything that that medication regimen that he had from the time
he was four and five years old all the way through school and then trying to make him functional in a classroom for putting him in a box, that that's not why he's a drug addict today because I know it is 100%.
That's why he's a drug addict today, and I will never push medication on children because They, their little brains are growing and developing and forming and pharmaceuticals, they do change and reroute your brain structure.
They just do.
And so I'm thankful for people that are just a normal parent, that's not an educator, that starts doing research for themselves and helps other parents because you're right, they do not know.
And when you go to, I was talking to my children's She was saying that you would not believe the number of children coming in with autism diagnoses when they really don't have autism and with ADHD diagnoses when they really don't have ADHD and they want this ADHD medicine and they all want it.
In fact, she had quit taking new ADHD patients because she said, I just cannot...
You know, you can't figure out do they really need it or do they don't because they have this diagnosis and so you give them a little bit but then a little bit of the low dose of medicine but you hate to do that to children where their brains are still forming.
Yes, I mean, I totally agree.
And I think that a lot of the parents aren't educated because when you're in school, you're a captive audience.
So here are these people telling you your child has this ADHD. Well, if you took the gifted...
Ablechild's characteristics on one side and you took this attention deficit disorder characteristics, they're one in the same.
I can tell you that because that's one of the top search documents on ablechild.org is how the same checklist mirrors The ADHD checklist.
And so, you know, I think that a lot of people aren't told that it's subjective, that a group of psychiatrists got together and voted it into the DSM. So it's not really based in science, you know, so it's behaviors change.
You can do a million different things to focus on your behavior.
So we don't give these children half a chance.
So I totally agree with you.
I totally agree.
And I find that the children that are on these psychiatric drugs end up going down the path where, again, the insurance runs out and they go to the street drugs and And that has been the research that I have done into, you know, the mass shootings, the mass murders that are occurring in communities across the country and actually throughout the world.
But we, you know, we focus on the news here.
So we do see that That actually a really interesting violence project funded by the United States Justice Department created a mass shooting database.
And in 2021, an analysis of the database, it was done by Voice of America, That basically the United States revealed that 23% of the mass shooters have been on psychiatric medications.
And that's really, that's stunning that the U.S. Department of Justice basically is saying that 23% of the mass shooters have been on psychiatric medications.
And those are the only ones that can actually be confirmed.
Like, there's a lot that the toxicology reports weren't revealed, so that wasn't factored into the This violence project that the U.S. Justice Department did.
So we have a real crisis on our hands in this country.
You know, anytime there's a mass shooting afterwards, you hear all the political parties, both on the left and the right, talking about just nothing relevant to solving the problem.
You know, it's, well, this person believed this and this person believed that, but yet We're not looking at the psychiatric drugs.
I want to get back to the machines.
You're the expert on that.
And I want to talk about that a lot.
That's why I wanted you on the show.
But I want to talk for a minute about the over-diagnosis of ADHD, autism, bipolar.
So in 20 years of my career, I've seen bipolar, bipolar, bipolar, and they're not bipolar.
Then the ADHD, ADHD, and it's like, no, they're not ADHD. They're gifted or they're this or they're that.
And then the over-diagnosis of autism.
And so I think that, you know, There are times when Ritalin and Concerta and these medications actually work beautifully for a child.
But they're rare.
It's rare.
And most of the time it's a child that was from a...
A drug addict parent and so their neurotransmitters and their things in their brain is already kind of messed up and it kind of has an adverse reaction to them and it does calm them down but a lot of times it's a stimulant medication where it makes them more stimulated.
They do not eat so they lose weight and then they reroute their brain and so then it does make them different.
It changes their whole personality and They're not the same anymore.
And then you're rewriting their whole brain wave and their whole brain structure.
And so it is very, very scary.
And it's scary how many children are on the medication.
And what I find interesting is when we look at the amount of kids that are on these mind-altering drugs and behavior-altering drugs, you're on these drugs and then you're committing suicide.
A very severe action that you don't have any kind of emotional awareness around the finality of what you're doing and what kind of harmful things It's a tragedy beyond imagination.
You cannot even conceptualize that.
So you wonder if this rerouting in the brain of these drugs are numbing that part of the brain out and that perception.
And you know, the brain where you make major life activity and decisions doesn't fully develop until 25.
And so age 25 is when that fully develops and you're able to conceptualize that.
But does these drugs actually impair the development of Those decisions, which I think it does.
I think if we did some frontal lobe studies, we would find that the ADHD medication and the antidepressants and all of that impairs the development of the frontal lobe of your brain where you make these major life decisions.
And...
I would be very interested to know how many of the transgenders we're seeing now.
There's this whole movement of the trans movement that are angry and mentally ill.
We know they're mentally ill.
They have gender identity disorder.
That's a mental illness.
And we're seeing this rise of them committing these crimes in the devastation.
It's a devastation.
If they had been on medication in their childhood.
Well, the Texas shooter, I believe, was...
Well, there's so many shootings, so I have to kind of go with the transgender.
I believe that was in Texas.
I could be wrong.
Here's the thing.
Any one of the persons, like if we focus on who they are when they commit these crimes...
We kind of lose the investigative level.
So the investigation into that particular trans person, the files indicated that there were medical documents in the police investigation, and those really need to be disclosed.
So we're not guessing.
It's a public health We have to be able to look at the medical records.
We know that person was being treated.
for this conversion into another gender so that doctor should have been should be questioned and brought in front of the cameras and talk about the treatment because we need that information in order to protect the public so we know that he was seeing Somebody for that.
And then we also know that there was another file found that was regarding mental health.
So without those records being released to the public, we're in a crisis here because we don't have that data.
So it just keeps us all guessing.
But to answer your question, I do believe that That there is a link between the treatments and making your...
These people aren't recognizable anymore because it alters their state of mind.
So they're impaired.
They're impaired.
Yeah, they're impaired and then they also just have a total rerouting of their brain and they can't function.
And so they don't make decisions like we do.
They don't have the empathy we have.
They can't see long-term effect like we can and normal people, even normal kids their own age.
And so maybe it's a Tennessee one.
There's one in Tennessee and then there was one somewhere else.
So there's been several of the transgender students.
Yeah, there's been several of the transgender shooters.
And so it's interesting, you know, to look at.
I think, in reality, it is a spiritual battle because the Bible says we don't fight against flesh and blood.
We fight against principalities and powers of darkness.
And half of Jesus's ministry was casting out demons.
And I believe that there's a lot of demonic activity going on and it's really sad.
And when you look at the TikTok and the Snapchat movement and all that, you know, TikTok, they have this for you page and it targets you.
My daughter watches all kind of Christian videos.
Well, she has more witchcraft that pops up on her TikTok than the Christian stuff.
She's never looked at witchcraft.
She reports it every time and blocks it.
But it still comes.
Why?
Because they are purposefully trying to get her engaged and interested so maybe she'll watch it.
It's a purposeful agenda to get our Christian children to Sucked in to witchcraft.
It's growing rampant everywhere you turn.
And that whole movement of Japanese anime porn and the witchcraft and the furries and the transgenderism, it is all to mess with their identity.
Their identity is not in Christ.
And so we're going to see more and more of this until the church steps up and great revival breaks out in our country, which I believe it's going to happen.
But until that does happen, we're going to just see this continue to grow and grow and grow.
Well, the Tennessee shooting, that also concerns me because we have the behavioral health industry actually working within the police department.
So they're kind of suppressing the information that's coming out on the mental health condition and the treatment.
You know, it's really, again, really important that we look at the evidence that is being presented.
But I totally agree with you.
I believe that there is a bigger agenda.
I happen to believe it's in greed and power, and I truly believe that We are in a spiritual battle and it's for our children.
Our children are the treasure of the future.
So it's like if you can reach the child's mind and then you're pumping the child with all these mind altering drugs and then putting images in front of them, It's really dangerous.
I mean, one thing for boys is also when I was a young mom, I remember going upstairs and checking on my son and he was on the computer and he was gaming.
And, oh gosh, I can't remember all the names of the games.
But he was talking to somebody.
He was in this room and he was on this computer game.
And I'm like, who are you talking to?
And he's like, oh, this guy just joined the room and I'm doing that.
And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Who's in your room?
Who are we allowing into our homes?
And that was really very shocking to me that this innocent game that I bought for them Is now they're talking to strangers.
You know, you don't know how old the person is and what they're, you know, what they're even saying to your child as they're playing, not Game Boy.
I know somebody listening will be like, they have the name of that game.
PlayStation or Xbox or whatever it is they're playing.
Yeah, Xbox.
It was the Xbox.
And, you know, when I did a lot of my testimony in the state of Connecticut, After Newtown and Sandy Hook, one of the bills there was about the gaming.
And, you know, you put these children on these psychiatric meds and then you put them in a room.
Who's just saying somebody knows that they're maybe on these mind-altering drugs?
I mean, I know it's a far-out idea and is saying, you know what?
There's a game down the street.
We're going to do this shooting and you've got to pick this bag up and you've got to run here.
You've got to run here.
I don't put it past anything, really, of strangers coming into your home and encouraging your children to do all sorts of things that you would be 100% against.
I don't know that they would, you may or may not know that they're on it, on the medication, but the problem is that you've got really sick people who are groomers, and they know what to say, and they know what to do, and because they're such a rampant Number of children own these medications, then it makes them more susceptible to the groomers.
And so they're on the, they like the fast paced, you know, environment of the games.
And then they like meeting people from other places and they're pretending like they're their age, but really there's some creepo in their basement masturbating and playing a game with our children.
And so they are grooming them and they're saying the things and they know what to say and they know how to befriend them.
And then, you know, they end up meeting them and they end up being this old creepy man or woman who is going to get them to sex traffickers.
And that happens when you hear these horror stories on the news and you hear these stories and you're thinking, oh, it wouldn't happen to me.
It wouldn't happen to my child.
But it does.
It happens in small towns, little potent towns, and they steal the car and they go and meet somebody three counties over and ditch the car and go and get in the car with somebody and And even though they realize that they're old because they know all these personal things that the child has shared with them.
And they think, well, they don't look like that.
They're not 15.
They're, you know, 50.
But they know all this personal information about me now.
And they're my friend.
And they're saying they're my friend.
And I know I'm older, but I'm still going to be your friend.
And I've told them all this personal stuff they could go and share.
So I better go with them.
And it's a horror.
It's a nightmare.
And so parents have to pay attention.
They have to know what's going on and be in their child's room.
And when they say, Mom or Dad, get out of my room.
No, I'm going to be in here and I'm going to hear what you're doing.
And I'm on top of it.
My 18-year-old, he's graduating next weekend.
And he was saying his friends were over last night and they were saying, Oh, Miss Candy, you're on it.
Like you get on his head.
And I am.
I'm on it.
And I'm constantly, you know, in his business and what he's doing.
But the kids love me and they come over here and I don't go tattletale to their parents, but I do tell them, hey, listen, y'all need to think about this and you need to think about that.
And I hope I'm planting seeds in their minds and so they're not making themselves vulnerable.
But we have to communicate with our kids.
We can't just assume that they are communicating with people that are their age because more than likely they're not.
No.
Yeah, I totally agree.
And I think it can happen in I lived in a very affluent, small little town in Connecticut.
And, you know, it happens there and it happens in a smaller, you know, inner city that the children, you know, it doesn't.
It does not discriminate by how you live, you know?
I mean, these drugs are being pushed on children from affluent communities to very low income And it's a human rights issue.
We need more informed consent.
We need to be on top of our kids.
I loved what you said because I was that mom that everybody came to my house and I was like the different mom.
I really was.
I was there and I was trying to get to know my son's friends and I think that's hugely important.
And the world's changed.
Everything's on computers now.
I mean, look at us this evening.
So it is important to know who your children are around.
But I also feel that we have a responsibility in the school system.
And you being a counselor and trained and know all these things, that we provide people informed consent and let them know that You know what?
Ritalin is in the same class as cocaine.
And it's a gateway drug.
And there's a small percentage of people that maybe, like you said, it serves.
I don't ever make that statement because I don't work...
The pharmaceutical company does a huge job, and they have salespeople all over, every senator, every congressperson, the president.
So my job really is to say, listen, You have the right to say, this is not what I want for my child, you know, and be accepted in the community.
And I can remember when I decided not to put my son on these drugs for ADHD, I can remember the other parents making me feel terrible about it.
Yeah, because they feel shamed.
They feel shamed and they feel like I'm a bad parent because I've done this.
And if you're listening to this and you have done this to your children and you think, well, it did help in some ways or whatever, we're not shaming anybody because that's why I said what I said.
I have seen it work for a few kids.
I've seen that it really has made a difference.
I want to tell you, most of the time, those children, if that truly works for them, you can give them a cup of Mountain Dew.
First thing in the morning.
And instead of jacking them up, it calms them down.
And you can tell the difference.
They're just hardwired a different way.
And it's rare, but it does happen.
Yeah, and I love what you said.
It isn't about shaming either way.
And it's about, you know, what decision do you want to make for your child?
And do you have all the information?
And definitely never want anybody to feel out there that I'm saying you can't, like, I don't want you to do this.
No.
I just want you to have all the information.
And, you know, try natural things, but at the end of the day, it is your decision.
And I know from the point of view of children where the state has tried to take the child away, Because the parents didn't want to use psychotropic drugs.
And so I've been on a kind of a really different path with these parents, trying to fight to the right not to do it.
So I mean, I think parent to parent, whether you do or you don't, I think a parent out there that would definitely respect My ability to say that's not what I want, and I know that they would, you know, so it's parents to parents are okay, but it's the system that we're up against that really challenges our rights, if that makes sense.
Yeah, it's very systemic.
You know, Sheila, how do we get in this place where we could be An open DFATS case if we refuse to allow pharmaceuticals to control our children.
How do we get in this place of, oh, well, you're neglecting your kid if you don't Give them a mind-altering drug that will make them a different person because they're not the same child anymore.
It changes them so much.
How do we get in this place?
I mean, it is systemic.
It is purposeful.
It is numbing.
And it is rewiring of brain.
I mean, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
It's greed.
You know, a lot of it's greed.
And it's, you know, for every congressperson...
And every senator, there is about two or three pharmaceutical lobbyists.
So parents are busy at home.
Parents are raising their kids.
They're not going.
They can't afford to go.
And even if they could afford it, I don't think they'd want to fly to Washington, D.C. And go and walk the halls and testify on a bill that you wait in line and you get three minutes to share your experience, you know?
So I think that parents, you know, are living their lives and I think that our lawmakers On both sides of the aisle are taking advantage and making these decisions on laws that are impacting parents who really just want to be free and enjoy life.
Like you had a big weekend, your children are graduating.
These are milestones, you know, but we also want to be safe in the malls.
We want to be safe.
In our churches, and we want to be safe just everywhere.
And if we don't take on the link between psychiatric drugs and mass shootings and have a conversation about it, Then we're not going to really be able to solve it, because I don't believe the answer is taking everybody's gun rights away.
I mean, I don't personally have a gun, but I do.
I'm very into the Constitution.
There's a reason why we have the ability to have the Second Amendment, and it's really to defend ourselves against this government, believe it or not.
I mean, that's what I was taught.
I mean, you know, I did sit in the back of the classroom, but I remember hearing about the Second Amendment.
The tyrannical government.
Right.
So why would we focus on the guns when we're not even looking at the pharmaceutical end of it?
I think that we owe it to humans, the next generation.
Listen, it's been quite some time since I started this battle.
You know, my son, like I said, is 30.
He was seven.
I've still been asking for an investigation on the link between psychiatric drugs and And mass shootings.
And we have this, the U.S. Justice Department has a database and they're saying 23% of the mass shooters have been on psychiatric medications.
I wish I had more.
Right.
Those are the ones that they are, the toxicology report came out, and or, you know, that they have the data.
And, you know, Sheila, I'm more concerned about where they own them as a primary elementary student than I am a middle and high, because research shows when they get through puberty, a lot of times they outgrow the hyperactivity and attention.
Right.
And so they'll go through puberty and they're like a different student.
So if you can make it through those foundational years to middle school age, they don't even need the medicine.
And which shows me we need more recess.
We need more playtime.
We need to quit making them sit in seats.
You know, kindergarten doesn't have nap time anymore.
We don't do that.
We're making them read.
You have to be reading by the time you leave kindergarten.
You're five years old.
It's too much.
It's too much.
We haven't, children haven't changed.
We used to be, we've done down in society, Dr.
Ben Carson has talked about the reading level and the things that we used to read in the early 1900s as common text versus what we read now and the writing that we used to produce in America versus, you know, 100 years ago writing.
You know, 100 years ago, 120 years ago versus now.
It is crazy how dumbed down we have gotten an education, but yet we're medicating children so they'll sit still.
So I'm more concerned about where they own psychotropic medication when they were primary and elementary age because that was the foundational age when their synapses and all these pathways are created in their brain and their ability to rationalize and have empathy and And all the things, I'm more concerned about that than if they were actually on something that was, you know, a stimulant medication when they actually committed the crime.
Because to me, that would be more evidence of they missed the boat.
There were things that were not able to form and develop mentally well.
Come to fruition that should have had they been allowed to develop the way God created them to develop.
And, you know, same thing with all these hormone therapies and the different things that should be criminal, you should be imprisoned or, you know, Whatever has to happen to you for you mutilating your children.
It's sick and it's evil.
It's the same thing with medication.
We have to protect our kids.
Same thing with immunizations.
All my children have had immunizations and now I will never get them another one because I believe my type 1 diabetic, she got her middle school shots and five minutes later she has type 1 diabetes which is You know, autoimmune and it was triggered from a viral infection.
She had not been sick, but she had been injected with viruses for vaccines.
And so, you know, we see all the things coming out with all the people that have blood clots and strokes and heart attacks and all these weird cancers and all this that's coming out since we had the shots that came out in 2020.
I just think it's time to ask questions.
It's time to question everything.
You don't trust what's being pushed by the government.
You're exactly right.
You have all these lobbyists.
You have the politicians who are getting paid huge money from pharmaceuticals.
You have actually pharmacists that are in Congress that are members of Congress who are getting huge kickbacks.
It's time we question everything, especially our kids.
Our children are vulnerable.
They're innocent.
They have no one.
They have no voice.
And so I love it.
I love your work.
I love what you're doing and trying to educate parents and trying to help them because you're right.
It's intimidating to come into one of those IEP or 504 meetings and decisions being made for your child and you don't know what the heck's going on and you're around people who are more educated than anybody on the planet because educators are.
We're more educated than anybody else.
We have to get more degrees to get raises and so that's what we do.
And it's very intimidating for parents.
I know it was for my mama.
She was not an educator.
She's educated, but she was not an educator.
And so she didn't understand a 504 plan and what they were doing with Chase and then pushing medication on her.
She didn't understand that.
I totally agree.
I mean, I think that when I look at what my mother was reading when she was in high school and younger, you would consider that college material now.
I mean, we don't do cursive writing anymore.
And it's really, that's a huge connection with the brain, the cursive writing.
So, I mean, I think that we're becoming like these behavioral health schools versus schools.
I also believe that in the police stations, they should not have behavioral health vendors that are working on these crime scenes.
The carve-out of behavioral health started back in Rhode Island in the 70s with Siba Geige when they were developing Ritalin, and it went from just a small carve-out To now, behavioral health is in everything, and it's traded on the stock market.
You have these behavioral health massive companies, and they're just as large as the pharmaceutical companies.
So, I mean, I do believe that we're at a turning point in this country.
I don't know.
You could take all the guns away, but I think they'll find something else.
They'll find a truck or a car to ride into the crowd, you know?
I think that...
They'll find a gun, Sheila.
They'll find a gun.
Hurt people hurt people.
And they're going to find a gun.
They're going to print one on a 3D printer.
They're going to find one on the black market.
They're going to do what they want to do.
They're going to have a bomb.
They're going to do whatever it takes to get the job done and be famous or whatever they think they're going to get vindicated for.
Hurt people hurt people.
And so I'm going to need you to get a gun.
I'm going to need you to do that and go shoot it.
Sheila, you have to own a gun.
It has to happen.
We have to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government and we have the right to protect ourselves from mentally ill, deranged people.
Right.
And the Parkland shooter, he was drugged when he was six, as young as six.
He was on a cocktail of six or seven psychiatric drugs.
There's no clinical studies when you mix these drugs together.
And so he was really brain damaged.
And the state of Florida actually paid for that treatment.
Henderson Behavioral Health Was in charge of his treatment, and we as taxpayers are paying for that.
And I think we have to look at that and say, well, they didn't even lose their contract, you know, with the state of Florida.
Nobody even pointed it out, you know.
So I think we have to start saying, okay, wait a second, it's not about the guns all the time.
It's about these providers and what exactly are they documenting?
You know, you had said that in the beginning of our conversation that some of these kids don't have ADHD or bipolar or whatever, and that's the danger of it being so subjective, you know?
There's no...
You can't take a blood test.
You can't have an x-ray.
So we have to kind of start looking at this behavioral health umbrella and shrinking it down to a doable situation where they're held to account.
If they're treating somebody...
If you're a psychiatrist and you're treating somebody and they become the next shooter, I would love to see the police the next day when everybody's grieving.
Bring that psychiatrist out.
Let's talk about what you gave to that.
How did you alter that shooter's mind?
You know, and I think that's the weapon is the psychiatric drug is the gun.
It's not the actual physical gun that the person is picking up.
It's what you've filled their head with for years.
And so, I mean, I'm all for what you said.
I would love to see a conversation in Congress.
It saved my life.
That's how I met my business partner in Able Child.
She was testifying before Congress.
And I think we should have the ability to tie these shootings To the violence that we know is occurring with these drugs.
It has a black box warning on them that say, increased risk of suicide.
And the evidence is coming out that it's also linked to homicide.
So we have to be serious and get the right people to ask the right questions.
So that's what I pray for.
I pray to have a conversation with...
The lawmakers and parents and anybody who will really want, I think we all want the same thing, which is to stop the mass murders.
You know what?
You're a genius, honestly, because it's on a continuum, I'm sure.
From about 20 years ago is when we had this huge push in these pharmaceutical drugs on children and their behavior and making them functional in schools.
And so we have this huge push.
We're putting all these kids on medication.
It's just spiking, spiking, spiking.
And at the same time, we have our first mass shootings and the first thing.
You know, you're right.
It's just going up.
It goes up.
And it's not the guns.
It's the children.
It's the people.
It's the early...
20-year-olds that are doing these things.
And then if you look at the percentage of kids, it looks like the school shooters are mostly white males.
Well, white males are the predominant percentage on these medications because they cannot stay in their seat because they are an active all-boy, want to be outside in the dirt playing, and you're putting them in a desk and you're telling them you have to sit there, you can't talk, you can't play, you've got to do what I tell you to do.
And so We're medicating kids so that they can be functional in class, and now we're seeing that group of children that are related to the shooters.
Well, it coincides, and so is there a correlation there?
That research is vital, but I'm sitting here as an educator for 20 years and listening to this and reading the research myself and following all this, and I've never...
I've thought about it deeply.
I've thought about it in passing and bleeding thoughts, but not deeply like research how you have, but it makes sense.
And it is, I've seen it.
I've seen, I've read the people about the people who have committed these crimes and What kind of diagnoses they had.
You know, we have a DSM would go by.
That's our diagnostic manual.
And it's how many behavioral indicators you have that, or some of them are, you know, physical, medical, behavioral, that would, if you have five of seven, you have this disorder.
If you have this of this, you have this disorder.
And so you're fitting them in a mold.
And really, you're right, Sheila, when you're looking at ADHD or you're looking at, you know, other things, bipolar disorder, Maybe it's not.
It's more subjective and it's more what I want you to hear as my clinician and then the clinician diagnosis.
But whenever it's transgenderism and I have a vagina and I'm a girl and I start feeling like I'm trapped inside of a girl's body but I'm really a boy and I want to cut my genitals off and never have pleasurable intercourse and That is a mental illness that's easily identified because it's very clear-cut.
But most mental health disorders are not that clear-cut.
Even severe depression, clinical depression, it's not that clear-cut because is it temporary?
Is it because you had a loss?
Is it because you had a significant event happen and a trauma?
Could it be PTSD instead of being clinical depression?
It's just masking that way.
So there's all these different But some things are cut and dry, and they're easy to distinguish.
But ADHD and the pharmaceuticals that are coinciding with that, it's not.
It's really subjective.
And it's scary that we're allowing pediatricians who are not...
They're not psychologists.
They're not psychiatrists.
They're not even a counselor.
That's not their area of expertise.
And they're the ones prescribing the medication based on, you know, a little questionnaire or assessment that's a one-page thing the parent's completing, which you're exactly right.
It mirror images a gifted child.
And so it's scary.
It's dangerous.
It's definitely dangerous.
So I totally agree.
I think that we really need to have the conversation.
It's the DSM. I mean, they use it to bill, too.
You know, so we have to look at, you know, it's very interesting.
I had this case a while back where this psychiatrist basically said these foster care kids were the reason why there was a cluster of them on psychotropic meds.
And, you know, we saw his comment in the psychiatrist that was Billing out foster care basically said, well, the reason why these kids are on these meds and we're billing the state so much is because they come from a quote-unquote bad gene pool.
And I thought to myself, oh my God, what a comment for somebody to say.
So we actually joined forces with the NAACP where we confronted that psychiatrist to say that's like Imagine saying you're from a bad gene pool.
I mean, it was terrible for these young kids.
So, I mean, I think we have to look at the billing of these psychiatrists, what they're billing the states, and we have to start to kind of weed out this fraud and abuse.
So, I'm really grateful that you're interested in this topic.
And, you know, I just...
I love your approach to it from the spiritual point of view.
I do believe that we're in a spiritual battle for sure.
I agree.
I think because I have a personal experience with my brother and then I have years of experience with other families that's kind of gone through similar things and then me just politically getting involved with politics and I'm seeing that side of it.
I probably am interesting for you because you've done this other side.
And so I'm kind of connecting in pieces.
And it's crazy because in this interview, my brain's kind of exploding about different things I want to research now and look into.
So I want to help you.
So definitely we'll get together and have conversation because I think what you're doing is amazing.
And it really probably could fix a lot of problems, Sheila.
So I think God probably had you go down that path because he's using you to bring a voice to what needs to happen.
Oh, well, I really pray for your success.
And, you know, I'm happy to work on legislation and, you know, do what I can to at least bring it to light and get some of the issues out.
And from a justice standpoint, really work on solving some of these mass shootings.
Is there anything that you want to share with your research that you haven't already?
Well, I would just say the biggest thing that I'm looking at right now is the violence project that the US Justice Department just put out and the 23% of the mass shooters.
And as we discussed, we know it's more.
So I would say that I'm looking for clarification on really the role of the FBI within the mass shootings to make sure that we can To get them to release some of these medical records and to have hearings on the federal level.
So I ask anybody who's out there, I did a show this morning, and I was asked the same question.
And I just would ask that if anybody's listening, pick up the phone and call your representative and tell them that you want a hearing, you want federal investigations into the link between behavioral health drugs and mass shootings.
And so you have an interesting cousin, James Comey, and I should say this before you get off because I'm sure everybody tells you that, but have you had a discussion with him about this and what was his response?
Well, I had been sending my cousin quite a bit of information on behavioral health vendors and the corruption I saw in the mass shooting and getting all this out.
He completely ignored me, which is very sad.
And, you know, I've watched his career.
He is my first cousin.
And, um, I really believe that he's on the wrong side of his, uh, wrong side of history.
And, um, I, I believe that his oversight into some of these, um, mass murders, um, was done very poorly.
Um.
The San Bernardino mass shooting, he let media walk through a crime scene, so anything that could have been collected was corrupted.
He didn't investigate who hired the public health worker that was responsible for killing all those people.
My cousin, he's been bought out.
He's writing mystery novels now.
And what really disturbed me, speaking spiritually with you, is his latest junket on this book tour to sell his mysteries was stopping in an ice cream place and looking at promoting the flavor of some witch ice cream.
And I thought to myself...
Wow.
You know, you could have helped this country and you didn't.
And now you're promoting witch ice cream?
I was just like, ugh.
So James, if you're watching this, you need to get a hold of Sheila and she's going to look to the Lord and she's going to keep you from burning in hell.
And she's going to give you a salvation message that you need to hear.
Because God anointed you.
He sets leaders in places.
And He anointed you for great things.
And you can still turn around and do the right thing.
And you have political connections everywhere.
And so wouldn't it be amazing, James, if you give your life to the Lord and you change and you're radical and you get to go to heaven.
And you get blessed right now.
So I think that, you know, God can change anybody.
And so we just pray for James that he comes around because you've done a lot of research.
And I believe God has put this on your heart.
And this is something from him.
And so he needs to pay attention.
So we'll just pray for him.
So everybody watching this, we are prayer warriors that watch my show.
We got tens of thousands of us.
And so millions across the whole world.
And so we'll just pray for James Comey that he gets radically saved and delivered.
Amen to that.
Your mouth to God's ears, because I have to believe he has some humanity left in him, and he really stops with the greed and the political end of things.
Yeah, I just really hope that he really lets the Lord in because I honestly believe our children are depending on, like you said, the leaders.
And to waste his life away at this point is just so sad.
It's just he's on the wrong side of history.
So I do believe that he needs prayers.
And I know a lot of people don't like him on both sides of the aisle.
And, you know, I do love him.
I'm very disappointed, but I do love him and I pray for him.
And I do hope he comes out and can explain to us some of these police investigations that he worked on and how we miss this, these glaring connections.
So I thank you for saying that.
I mean it from the bottom of my heart and they'll be praying.
They will.
And so when he gets saved, we'll have him on the show and we'll talk to him about Jesus.
Tell everybody how to get a hold of you and how to read your work and your research.
Sure.
You could go to ablechild.org and we're a non-profit.
We are two moms and we're out there.
All our information is on the website.
All my work over the last year's For parents of foster care and just on informed consent and the right to refuse psychiatric treatment.
And I just really thank you so much.
So anytime you want to have me back, you just give me a ring.
I'm delighted to see you and all the positive things that are happening in your life and God bless you.
Thank you so much, Sheila.
Thank you so much for being on Jesus, Guns, and Babies.
We will see you next Saturday on the Stupider Network at 8 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
I love you.
God bless you and God bless America.
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