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March 10, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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MK Ultra Survivor SPEAKS OUT: "They're Engineering a Generation of Psychopaths!"
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*music* *music* *music* *music* *music* I'm Lauren Witzke.
Edward will be in with us shortly, but you asked for it, so I delivered.
Before, you remember we had on Steve Smith.
He was an MKUltra survivor from Oak Ridge, the Oak Ridge facility in Canada.
Now, there was a lot of controversy surrounding what happened in Oak Ridge, and it was more common than people thought.
They were literally making Manchurian candidates, a lot of Manchurian candidates and psychopaths who ended up in places like the Israeli Defense Forces and within our own United States government.
It was an experimental program where they experimented on prisoners and we were fortunate enough to have Steve back on with us to go into detail and discuss more.
More about Oak Ridge and some other things he knows.
Welcome, Steve.
Thank you so much for coming back on.
I really appreciate it.
Now, we had spoken about your experience in Oak Ridge.
Would you mind giving a two-minute summary of what went on there before we go into the other really important topics that we need to discuss?
Sure.
Thanks for having me.
So we're talking about something that happened 50 years ago, sometimes even more.
And it's difficult to see how it relates to today, but I assure you it does.
So, 1968, when I was a hippie traveling across Canada, like my whole generation was, I essentially got kidnapped into this program in Oak Ridge, which was a hospital for the criminally insane.
Some of the worst people in Canada, child killers.
Serial killers, rapists, really, really bad people.
Now, I didn't really do anything serious.
I stole a car.
I actually borrowed it for a while.
But I found myself locked up with these people for eight months.
An absolute nightmare.
Now, the previous history of these kinds of LSD experiments, brainwashing, collectively known as MKUltra, It goes back to the 50s.
It's really well documented with the experiments in Montreal at the Allen Memorial Institute.
Some Canadians actually sued the American government, the CIA, and won a settlement.
So this stuff is well documented.
But Oak Ridge wasn't well documented at all until years after I went through the experience and started looking into it, and it really became an issue.
And there's absolutely no question that these experiments from the 50s and 60s, brainwashing, were carried through to the 70s and probably 80s, most definitely in the mid-60s, end of 60s, when I found myself locked up with this.
Now, go ahead.
I was going to say, you know, we had discussed before some of the experiments that were done on you, but would you mind going over them again for the new audience?
Okay, well, a lot of it was drug experiments, LSD of course, scopolamine, methamphetamine, even alcohol, magic mushrooms, psilocybin, all of this stuff is all in the clinical records that I actually did obtain.
So it's not just me telling the story, you have to have documents, which I do have and did prove it.
So, let me tell you about how this program came into existence.
One doctor, Elliot T. Barker, graduated from University of Toronto in 1965 and was hired right out of university to be the assistant director of Oak Ridge.
He was given a one-year sabbatical where he went to China, he went to behind the Iron Curtain in East Germany, And he went to Israel, where he went to prison camps, specifically in communist China, which wasn't even open to the West yet.
I don't know how he got there, but he did.
So he studied Chinese communist brainwashing techniques and carried this back to Oak Ridge and set up what he called a therapeutic program, where essentially the inmates, the patients, ran the program, a collection of Committees and meetings, everything under absolute strict control and discipline.
It was really a brainwashing thing.
They used every technique that he learned in China and East Germany and brought it back to Canada.
And he didn't try to hide it.
He was right out front.
The media visited the place.
Doctors from all over the world.
There was a continuous stream of people coming and going, admiring this program, really not understanding what was going on here until decades later when I put it all together and we have what we have today.
Absolute tyranny going on.
They killed people in this program.
They ruined so many lives.
It's uncounted.
Most of this would never have Been known.
It would have disappeared had they not picked on the wrong person, me.
I had no mental illness.
I was an 18-year-old kid, did not belong there.
My only diagnosis, and it's in my clinical record, I suffered from the hippie syndrome.
So, for that, I went through eight months of absolute torture.
I suppose, I suppose I wasn't Affected as much as so many others, because here I am today, successful, and I put it behind me.
But I was determined for my whole life to track down what happened and to make these people accountable.
And I've done that, specifically with Dr.
Elliott T. Barker.
But there's more to come.
It's not all disclosed yet.
In the decades I spent in public libraries, And university stacks going through professional publications.
This was before the internet existed.
I put together the story that brought down Oak Ridge.
I made, I think, three CBC documentaries over the years.
You can find those on my website.
And it attracted considerable public attention.
So, I was contacted in...
Oh, there's so many levels to this story, but I was contacted by John Rodson in 2010, the author of Men Who Stare at Goats, and he was writing a book about Oak Ridge, so he was looking for my comments.
When he published the book, although I really liked the book from a journalistic point of view, it was very amusing, but I wasn't satisfied.
Now, I never had any writing experience, but I decided to write the book myself, so I did.
And that led to so many other things.
People contacted me, having read my book.
People contacted me with their own experience, and it led to a whole other thing, which brings us to the contemporary point.
The things they did following Oak Ridge continue to this day.
Cases are still in court.
People are still suffering.
As it turns out, they did the same horrid experiments.
You can find the details of it, much of the details, on my website.
But they conducted the same horrid experiments on women, totally in secret.
No one knew anything about it, and it never would have been revealed had someone not contacted me because they read my book and provided me with the absolute documented proof.
They broke Not only every medical, ethical law you can think of, but they also broke international treaties.
Straight out, I have letters and even audio tapes of a deliberate conspiracy between the United States and Canadian authorities to breach an international treaty.
No one has ever been held accountable for this, but they will be.
I'm not done yet.
So you had mentioned before, you know, a little bit about the experiments that went out in Oak Ridge as far as like, you know, drug-induced psychosis, sleep deprivation, but what they were trying to do was create psychopaths.
Or if you, you know, to take a normal person and see what it would take to make them a psychopath.
No empathy, no care, no conscience, or like I said, no care for any human life as far as, you know, they were concerned so like you could become like a weapon.
And not feel anything.
And you revealed to me also a little bit about St.
Thomas.
So there was experiments being ran on women in these facilities.
We know that these facilities existed.
They've been around since the 50s.
MK Alter just isn't a conspiracy theory.
It's a weaponized medicine against people to create other kinds of people, to create psychopaths, to create murderers, assassins, snipers.
And people, public officials, you know, a lot of people during COVID, you know, we are experiencing COVID tyranny.
A lot of these people, they're operating like they have zero conscience at all, zero empathy, zero care for how many people are going to die, how many are, you know, losing their livelihoods, how many children are now suffering psychological issues due to their mandates that they put on people with zero compassion, zero care for humanity.
And we watched that happen.
And I remember watching people like Tony Fauci.
You know, I'm like, how does he even have a conscience?
The things he says.
Well, you know, there are programs made to develop these kind of face figures that have zero conscience or care for humanity.
And, you know, I believe that these programs were used in a lot of people in our elected office.
A lot of people in the hierarchy of U.S. government were participants in these kind of experiments.
You know, they literally Seared people to the point where they had no conscience.
They sent them into psychosis, and they literally made them functioning psychopaths.
Now, I would like to go into this program about women that you uncovered.
Now, specifically what went on there.
So this was in St.
Thomas, is that correct?
That's right.
Before I mention that, I'd like to just mention one thing.
Our Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, it was his father who was in control of things during the time these experiments were going on.
So, just to relate it to, this is a family affair.
And yes, they were doing two things.
They were trying to find psychopaths, uncover people who were psychopaths, or is there a way to make a psychopath?
Can you turn someone into a psychopath?
They started off with the worst of the worst, child killers, rapists, awful people, people incarcerated in hospitals for the criminally insane, who were essentially untreatable.
Now, All of this was going on in Oak Ridge.
In particular, there was a lot of serial rapists in Oak Ridge, very bad people.
As it turns out, four of those very same men, four of the worst of them, were sent to a nearby women's ward, psychiatric hospital.
Same thing, forensic ward, women who had committed crimes.
So this was a locked ward.
They sent four men to set up the same brainwashing program that had been going on for years in Oak Ridge.
All four of these men were rapists.
The worst kind.
They lived on these women in a locked ward and abused these women like...
I don't even want to talk about it on any public...
I can't really tell you the details of this.
It's too horrible.
But you can read about it.
This is all coming out.
These women were raped.
There was pregnancies.
They were tortured.
They tied them up with seat belt material and padlocks, the same as they did in Oak Ridge.
When they speak of using restraints, those restraints were made from seat belts with grommets in various ways that they could tie you up.
These were women that four rapists I had total control over.
And this was the official sanctioned program set up by the same people that set up Oak Ridge.
Now, no one ever knew about this at all.
In 25 years in court, I started a lawsuit, I think about 2007.
I started a lawsuit that turned into a class action lawsuit, which I stepped away from.
I didn't really want to be a part of it.
I preferred to write a book.
But no one in all of this time ever mentioned, in all of this 25 years of litigation, no one ever mentioned St.
Thomas.
Neither side, neither the defendants or the litigants.
Nobody mentioned St.
Thomas, which is really bizarre, being that it was an absolute parallel program.
Now, what happened was, during the years that this Class action trial went on.
I think there was about 30 people involved to begin with.
But over the years, eight of them died.
One of those who died, his widow came in contact with my book and wanted to discuss what her husband had left behind.
Now, he was one of the men who were in St.
Thomas.
He was a convicted rapist.
He Good heavens.
His story is so fascinating.
No one knew anything about it.
But he left behind a box full of documents, which over a period of time, his widow gave me those documents.
And using those, the Fifth Estate, I provided those to the CBC Fifth Estate.
And last year, they did a documentary called Treatment or Torture.
That revealed for the first time in history what happened at St.
Thomas.
This was the first time anyone heard about this publicly.
And still, this story is unfolding today.
Something has to be done for these women.
As bad as Oak Ridge was, and as much as it outrages me, I spent my life trying to seek, I don't know, retribution or at least exposure of this.
Make these people accountable.
But now, St.
Thomas comes into it, and women.
Lauren, I swear, I'm absolutely sure some of this stuff that dropped into my hands literally is a gift from God.
This wouldn't have happened any other way.
I honestly can't explain how so much of this came my way that proved this.
I've been at it long enough to know that a lot of people jump on the MKUltra bandwagon.
It attracts a lot of I don't know, flaky people.
People want to attach themselves to it.
I don't know why.
But it's difficult to talk about this if you really are serious, because often you get placed into the same bag of, you know, crazy sort of conspiracy theory stuff.
But this is not.
It's documented.
I have the proof.
I have the signed letters.
I have all of the documentation of everything I claim that happened.
It did.
So, where is it going to go from here?
This is where it gets really bad.
The same lawyers that concealed this for more than two decades in court, my lawyers, the ones that I started this lawsuit with, those very same lawyers, ambulance chasers, they very quickly went after the women that they could find from St.
Thomas.
They are now representing them.
They're going to do nothing but delay this for another 20 years until everyone is dead.
That's what they're doing.
They just delay it.
This will never be settled in the courts.
These women will never find justice.
Question.
I have a question.
So, you keep saying they, they, they did this.
Who is they?
Like, who are the people that are in charge who are funding these kind of programs?
Like, who would be held accountable if we were to, you know, convict people?
I know there was Dr.
Barker, but I mean, it's not just him.
Just like with Tony Fauci, it's not just him.
There is a whole cabal behind them funding this operation, signing off on this operation, and covering up these kind of operations.
And I mean, do you believe that these are still going on today?
And who is responsible?
Well, I think ultimately, the letter agencies are responsible.
It's clear that they're the ones that started it.
The CIA started these LSD experiments in Canada.
Everyone knows that.
That's documented.
So there's no reason to believe that they weren't also involved in the Oak Ridge and St.
Thomas experiments.
They were gathering data.
They were looking for a few things.
How to make psychopaths.
How to direct psychopaths.
How to use them.
And who knows what else they were gathering this data for.
But that's what these letter agencies do.
That's what they've always done.
How to make them accountable?
Who knows?
I doubt they ever will be.
Dr.
Barker, he's been convicted.
The court case is done.
But it's been appealed by the Canadian government, because the Canadian government will never accept responsibility.
Even though the original LSD experiment, financed by the CIA, that case was done.
The litigants, I think eight of them were compensated.
They all got money.
The American government admitted to what they did, but the Canadian government did not admit to any involvement and never will.
So, This is the Trudeau legacy.
Yes.
And you know, it's interesting because I remember watching Trudeau during the COVID lockdowns and I just couldn't believe how calloused he was towards the people.
He's a dictator.
It was like you get the experimental jab or you can't shop at the grocery store.
You can't eat out at this restaurant.
The trucker convoy, I mean, they just crushed those people and now they're hunting them down and locking them up just because they stood up for their freedom and embarrassed them.
You know, I'm watching the Trudeau legacy and I mean, this is the Trudeau legacy.
You know, experimenting on people.
It wasn't just an experiment now within Oak Ridge.
They ran an experiment on all their people.
And they did it heartlessly.
The global population had experiments ran on them.
And, you know, we were the experiment.
The death booster wasn't even tested on humans.
It was eight mice, and a couple of them already died.
And it's just crazy that these people do this.
And you wonder how.
Where do you find people like this?
Why are these people the way they are?
And you know, I truly believe that the people behind the scenes are the ones that are constantly running experiments on all of us, whether they're social experiments, whether there's medical experiments.
And we're seeing it every day, even until now.
And, you know, the CIA has gotten caught being involved in operations that they have no business operating in, even within their own countries, domestically, which they are not supposed to be doing.
They're supposed to be, you know, collecting intelligence in foreign countries, threats, that kind of thing.
But instead, it's become a thing where they experiment on their own people.
And it's just, I mean, we'll never probably know because they control everything.
You know, these three-letter agencies do have a say in what the media covers.
They do have a say in corporate stances and legislation.
You know, they are always behind the scenes pulling the strings.
And people that say that there's a deep state cabal, you know, they are right to a degree because there is.
Am I right?
Yes.
You know, it's so disappointing and frustrating for me to see What I experienced 50-plus years ago with the therapeutic community and the way that it was all set up, you have to really study it to know the details, but it's so frustrating for me to see that this is now turned loose into the wild.
We're experiencing this in society today.
Everything they learned in Oak Ridge in these compressed encounter areas Therapies or experiments, they've turned loose into the wild.
I see it around me all the time.
I see every day.
I'm very good at spotting psychopaths.
And for sure, Trudeau is a psychopath.
For example, there's one of the tests that they use.
It's called an MMPI. Minneapolis multi-phase personality inventory.
This is one of the psychometric tests that you use to find psychopaths or psychopathic tendencies.
Now, those tests are now used in recruiting police.
So, they don't use this test to eliminate psychopaths, like we always assumed.
They use these tests...
Excuse me.
They use these tests to hire psychopaths.
That's why it's so easy to find police willing to smack little old ladies on the head and trample them with horses.
They are psychopathic by nature, and they need them.
They want them.
These experiments were mostly how to find psychopaths.
Right.
Personally, I don't think you can make a psychopath.
I think they're born But you can make them worse.
And all you have to do is give them certain circumstance and you can control them totally.
Get them to do whatever you want.
In a police force, in a military, in government.
And I'm good at spotting psychopaths.
They're all around us now.
They're everywhere.
It's hard to avoid them.
It's true.
And I know you're not just talking about your local sheriff as far as police.
Do you see that within the FBI? Our FBI is rogue.
I mean, they are hunting down patriots.
They are labeling parents who attend school board meetings as domestic terrorists.
They're putting us on no-fly lists.
They're locking up people without due process.
And, you know, there was a lot of cops that, you know, would arrest people for not wearing a mask in public.
There was a mom in Idaho who was arrested for taking her child to a playground.
And these officers locked her up and, you know, manhandled her with zero compassion.
And that's the thing.
It's like those are the kind of people that, you know, they recruited.
They ran these tests on people.
people.
Okay, that person would be perfect to patrol our lockdown mandates, our unconstitutional consciousness, everything.
It's just, it really fits.
And this makes a lot of sense.
Now, if you could, if you, I know you've probably pay a little bit of attention to what happens in the United States.
Is there anybody that you would say that we really need to keep an eye on, somebody who's been Upfront and in our faces, somebody that you see on television, a big name, that is possibly, you know, because you can identify as psychopaths because you went through the treatments, you've studied this, you know.
Is there anybody that we should be looking out for?
Oh, my God.
Half of Congress, at least, and half of Senate.
It's full of them.
Good heavens.
Well, Fauci, first of all.
I mean, obviously, this guy...
This guy tortured puppies.
He tortured beagles for crying out loud.
I mean, there you have it.
You can't do that and not be a psychopath.
And he simply doesn't care.
Many people, primarily in the health industry, because if you think about it, who has more power than doctors?
We trust doctors.
A lab coat and stethoscope is a badge of infallibility.
So, we grew up thinking doctor's orders.
But, really, doctors are the third leading cause of death.
Above all.
Yeah, number one killer in America is medical malpractice.
He's right.
Yes.
So, doctors.
You really have to watch out for doctors.
So many of them are attracted.
So many psychopaths are drawn into the profession because it gives them carte blanche.
They can do whatever they want and never be held responsible.
So if you want to look for psychopaths, look in the medical profession.
There's so many of them there.
It's scary.
I'm afraid to go to doctors.
I'm 73.
I should visit doctors regularly, but I won't.
I think I'm more likely to stay alive by staying clear of them.
So there's one area of psychopathy.
It's true.
Remdesivir.
I remember it was killing.
Actually, in the Ebola experiments or the Ebola trials, it killed six out of ten patients.
And then the doctors would prescribe that as the CDC protocol for COVID, despite the fact it was sending people into renal failure.
People were being sedated.
And filled with remdesivir and dying in mass.
And these doctors did it without conscience.
They just kept prescribing it and saying, you know what?
You're crazy for wanting ivermectin.
You're crazy for wanting vitamins or supplements.
You're going to take the remdesivir, which just turned out to be poison.
And there's no way they didn't see it killing their patients.
So that makes a lot of sense.
And I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
What were you saying?
No, no, there's so much to cover in this.
I need your questions to keep me on track.
I go off on tangents because there are so many tangents.
But yes, the medical profession, we have to be really, really cautious of the amount of power that we give to them.
You know, these same people that tell us that as carbon units, which we are, we produce carbon and we're made out of carbon, These very same people that tell us that carbon is the problem and we have to reduce carbon, what they're really telling us is they have to reduce us.
They want population reduction.
It's as simple as that.
I really, really think that this so-called theory about a cabal of people who really are out to reduce the global population by maybe 80% Everything makes sense if you look at it through that lens.
If you look at solar power, renewables, all of those things, it's just not enough.
But it would be enough if only 20% of the population was left alive.
It would be a perfect world for them.
Now, how do we believe that those very same people that want to reduce us Want to give us treatment for diseases to save our lives.
It's a contradiction.
Of course they want us dead.
And Remdesivir is a good example.
The vaccination itself would never have been approved had treatment been available.
Treatment was available.
A lot of treatment was available.
But they said it was useless.
They put people in jail.
They took away the license of doctors For promoting Enviromectin, I think is one, could have been used instead of this vaccination.
But in order to have an emergency use, you could not have any other treatment available.
So they hid it.
They concealed it.
Now we know it.
So is that psychopathic behavior?
That's things people do when they want you dead.
How many have died already?
We're just starting to see this thing unroll.
Yes.
And we're seeing the die-off happen now.
This is all related back to what I discovered so many decades ago.
I've been warning people about the medical profession for so long.
People thought I was nuts.
I was a conspiracy.
I got frog-marched out of radio interviews when I started talking about certain things, which today are absolutely proven truths.
But in those times, you couldn't talk about it.
You had to be crazy.
Well, guess what?
Look around.
Yeah, and you know, absolutely.
I mean, I can't argue with that.
You know, they even say the people that are in charge of the medical industry, people that are like Bill Gates, who are in charge of the vaccines, they talk specifically about how there's too many people on the earth.
You know, the Georgia Guidestones said that you need to kill off 7.5 billion people in the world to be imbalanced with nature and that we are a cancer on the earth, like humans are a cancer on the earth.
You know, they let us know what they're doing.
It's time for us to start listening because we haven't believed it.
You just heard it wrong.
They didn't really mean it like that.
No, they are letting you know their intentions.
And then we watch them act and play out.
Now we're seeing the vaccine die off.
It took a little bit of time, but we're seeing it now.
It is killing people.
It killed a lot of people in the beginning.
Then it took a little break.
And now people, whether it's cancer, turbo cancer, immune diseases, Just overall fatigue and people are dying of heart attacks, cardiac arrest, blood clots, etc.
And it's happening in real time.
And like you said before, there were other treatments available.
I took ivermectin hydroxychloroquine to get over my case and I had felt like I had glue in my lungs, but it worked.
And then taking vitamins and supplements, they literally starved people in hospitals, denied them water, food, pumped them full of Fentanyl and remdesivir and murdered people.
We watched that happen.
They did.
And they did it with no conscience.
So you are absolutely right.
And you've been warning about this for how long now?
Decades.
And we're watching it play out in real time.
Decades.
It started with you.
Before it was us, it was you.
And it happened to you.
This is just...
It's so frustrating.
I know.
But we see it.
This is...
Sorry, this is a time of great awakening and that's the good thing.
How many people are aware of this now?
I feel free to speak about this now because I know you don't think I'm nuts.
But there was a time where if I was saying the things I'm saying now in a television or radio interview, I would be feeling really nervous and really kind of insecure because I just know people are going to think I'm crazy.
But here we are, a time of awakening.
People know this now, and maybe that's our only hope.
Who's going to win this race?
We're in a race now of enlightenment and awareness versus complete authoritarian takeover.
Now, maybe they've already killed us.
Maybe they've already killed enough people with this vaccination and with whatever else they have coming down the line.
Maybe they've already done it, but I think too many people are aware for them to get away with it.
Fauci is going to wind up in prison if he's lucky.
Yeah, I mean, in a just system, you know, but they do control everything.
While they were still positioning themselves for this, they were also positioning themselves in places of power.
In control of the FBI, in control of the CDC, in control of our law systems, the bars, the bars where lawyers go into.
They controlled everything.
They literally positioned themselves in places of power, not even to mention the media, Hollywood.
Everything out there was condemning you for killing grandma, for wanting to go grocery shopping.
You know what I'm saying?
They positioned themselves in such a way so they could not be held accountable.
But like you said, this is the time of Great Awakening.
People are seeing what's happening.
You know, it was in two years everything changed.
You said this in 2018, people would have thought you were crazy.
Just as recent as 2018, but now it's like, okay, this is real.
And this goes all the way back to a time when you were 18 years old and you were experiencing these kinds of experiments and tyranny, essentially.
Now, you had mentioned your website.
There's a lot more that people can find on your website.
What is your website?
ThePsychopathMachine.com.
It's basically just the title of the book here.
Of course, right there.
Okay.
All right.
We'll make sure we put that in the link in the description below.
Make sure you check out Steve Smith.
Steve, any last message you want to leave with our audience?
Kind of, you know, what is the way forward?
What can we do to help hold these people accountable?
First thing we have to do is avoid them taking us to war.
That's what they're doing right now.
The closer they get to losing the narrative, and they're losing it right now, they're going to take us to war.
It started with Ukraine and Russia, now it's moved, they've pivoted to China.
We have to stop them from taking us to war, because they want to reduce our population.
The more we know about this, the more we're going to question everything they do.
Go to my website, read everything that's on there.
The more you read, the more questions you'll have.
The more you understand about what they've been doing for decades, the more you will doubt that any of this is for our own good.
All we can hope for now is a great awakening, that we may start to put some of these people in prison.
Most of them got away with it.
Dr.
Barker got away with it.
He doesn't even know that he's been convicted because he's suffering from advanced Alzheimer's.
And his wife didn't want to tell him that he lost the court case, didn't want to upset him.
We can't let those people live their whole life, retire and disappear, fade off into the background.
Hold them responsible.
I'm going to do it as much as I can.
I'm still trying to get justice for these women in St.
Thomas.
What happened to them bothers me more than what happened to me.
I survived it.
But so many of them didn't.
More attention needs to be paid to what happened to them.
Find out about St.
Thomas.
Watch the Fifth Estate CBC documentary called Treatment or Torture.
It's there.
It'll blow your mind.
You won't believe what they did to these women.
That's about all I can say.
But let's keep information flowing.
As long as we're talking to each other, they're losing the narrative.
That's right.
That's right.
And, you know, we are the media now.
We can't, because these people have positioned themselves in positions of power over the media, you know, it's us, you know, and they would never, I'm sure, give you the time of day.
But, you know, you are always welcome here on Crosstalk News.
And Steve, we appreciate you coming back on.
We'll bring you back again, okay?
Thank you for giving me the time.
Let's keep fighting this.
Absolutely.
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Welcome back to Crosstalk News.
I'm Edward Zoll.
That was a great interview.
Steve Smith represents a generation who's been abused.
Not just abused, outright tortured by our government.
They've used our taxpayer funds to destroy people's lives, their childhood, their upbringing, the best years of their life.
I know a lot of 20-year-olds now.
I work with the Zoomers because I believe in this generation.
That man's 20s were hell on earth due to our CIA. Now, our CIA has made many people's lives hell on earth.
And it's not just in places like Afghanistan, Nicaragua.
Other places involving drug trafficking.
Contras.
Coups.
Listen, there is a trail of bodies which lead back to Langley.
Our government, I tell you this, they've been hard at work to try to recruit.
The brightest minds of our generation.
People in media, people in sports, people in international business, even in the military.
I read a story the other day about how a brigadier general, one-star general in the Marine Corps, he was recruited to become an FBI informant.
This man actually worked for the government and then worked to inform for the government on soldiers because apparently we have some kind of skinhead problem in the Marine Corps.
No, we have a tranny problem in the Marine Corps, a drag queen problem in the Marine Corps.
There are queers, there are lots of them, and they don't want to fight for this country.
They want to fight to get onto our Grindr app.
These folks are not the best among us to protect and serve.
But anyway, this man served as an informant.
We're also now seeing that there are plenty of informants and actual FBI agents among the J6 prisoners.
I'm saying the protesters, people that are put in jail now, we call them J6 prisoners, these men are patriots.
Got an email from one today.
A good friend of mine, Yoba.
This man, he was put in jail for what?
Criminal trespassing?
We're not finding out that the government literally led people around inside the Capitol building worse than that.
They had footage proving that.
They refused to give to the defendants.
Our government's always working against our interests.
The government will tell us that they lie to us.
They manipulate us.
They gaslight us.
They torture people like Steve Smith for our own protection.
They do it because they need to do it, right?
To keep us safe, keep us secure.
I do not feel more secure because my government is devilish.
No, I feel secure because I have a relationship with my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
He is the only person I'm going to defer to and submit to.
And guess what?
There are millions, millions of people just like me who are at the breaking point, cannot do it anymore, cannot play a game where we sit back and watch as you overthrow another government.
Look at Georgia, for example.
Not the place where Brad Raffensperger and a witch stole the election.
No, I'm talking about the Eastern European country of Georgia.
Now, Georgia, they made a bold move.
They're watching what's happened in Ukraine.
They're like, hey, there's a lot of non-government organizations, essentially the soft power arm of the CIA. Well, they're in the country, and in Ukraine, they seem to have overthrown the government in 2014 through these organizations.
Maybe we should get rid of them.
So in Georgia, they did just this.
They passed a bill that they were trying to kick out all NGOs, defund them, make it so they can't put money into their government.
This seems pretty simple.
Governments want to run themselves.
Countries want to be sovereign.
We believe in this, right?
We're Americans.
Our values have to spread around the world.
Now, that only matters when it comes to spreading homosexuality and Satanism.
When it comes to Georgia, Georgia made a move to secure their country for an outside intervention, and worse, for CIA coups.
And what happened?
The CIA tried to launch a coup.
USAID. You've got a lot of Democrats today, a lot of the deep state Uniparty figureheads.
People like, you know, Valerie Nuland.
You know, these people that are diplomats.
Victoria Nuland.
Victoria Nuland is very famous because in Ukraine, she was literally the person that joked about, oh, well, I guess it's time to overthrow the government.
This paired with her boss, Joe Biden, who literally said, well, if he doesn't work for us, this is talking about the attorney general in the country at the time, well, we're just going to get rid of him.
Well, they did.
And the big guy profited.
Well, the newest thing here is Victoria Nuland over there.
You know, she's threatening that democracy is not going to prevail if we don't keep USAID in place.
USAID is USAID. We fund it, by the way.
Probably should go to Americans, especially Americans who don't have running water in places like East Palestine.
Hey, common sense.
Common sense is few and far between in this day.
In Georgia, they've had to deal with riots.
They've had to deal with a lot of Molotovs, a lot of destruction and chaos.
And what for?
What, so democracy could spread?
No.
It's so the CIA can punish another country.
I'm sick and tired of it.
I know people like Steve Smith are, and I know Lauren is too.
We're upset.
We're frustrated.
But guess what?
I still love you.
And I'm still going to be someone who approaches these topics with temperance, with a good attitude, but even better than this, with a mission.
My mission is the Great Commission.
The CIA's mission is the Great Destruction.
They're actually right in line with the devil from what I'm watching here.
It's not just MKUltra.
It's the society-wide gaslighting that takes place.
We see it in television.
We see it with programming.
We see it on social media.
We see Republicans are cheering, getting rid of TikTok.
But they're not going to stop the CIA from creating propaganda to try to destroy the minds of children.
And adults, by the way.
It's not just kids.
Fox News indoctrinates adults.
Nickelodeon indoctrinates kids.
Fox News indoctrinates adults.
Today, we tackled a subject you may not know a lot about.
You might know a lot about MKUltra, or think you might.
But did you know that the CIA literally abducted women and then had rapists rape them continuously to see how long it would take to break them?
You paid for that.
Guess what?
It's coming home to roots now.
The dollar is devalued because of the immoral, disgusting, devilish things we've done with these dollars.
If you have an IRA account, I know you've been building up for your entire life.
You've been saving.
I try to save.
A lot of people my age, we live paycheck to paycheck.
We have money set aside.
We try to put something aside for our kids and the next generation.
I know you have.
Blue-collar workers, white-collar workers alike, you set aside a legacy.
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I know you saw Charles Schwab today, for example.
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Okay?
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This is a good thing, folks.
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Well, thank you so much for joining us for this edition of Crosstalk News.
I pray that you're not in one of these countries where the CIA is trying to overthrow your government.
But if you are, I pray for you, brothers.
And I pray that here in this country, we take back control of our territory, our beautiful society.
The society has to repent first, mind you.
But I tell you this, don't lose spirit.
The CIA, they're only as powerful as these governments and these societies and this world makes it.
You serve something much higher, something that is eternal, something that is transcendent.
Jesus Christ trumps any agency, including the CIA, and I want you to sleep on that.
God bless all of you, and take care.
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