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Feb. 25, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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JESUS. GUNS. AND BABIES. w/ Dr. Kandiss Taylor ft. PASTOR GREG LOCKE!
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I've never dressed up like a witch so I could infiltrate a witch's coven and pretend to be one of them.
But witches dress up like Christians and come to churches all the time.
Hey, everybody, welcome to Jesus, Guns, and Babies.
I'm your host, Dr.
Candice Taylor, and I know I always tell you that I have the best guests, but today I have an amazing man I've known for about two years.
I met him when I was campaigning.
I met him in Tampa, actually, at an awakening tour with Clay Clark.
He is amazing.
He is God gifted, anointed, and I'm telling you, this is probably going to be the best episode I've ever had.
So hang on tight.
We'll start with a scripture and it's the fitting for what he's going through right now.
Luke 4, 18 and 19.
The spirit of the Lord is upon me because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor.
He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
So today we get to have, we are so blessed to have Pastor Greg Locke.
Thank you, Pastor Greg, for coming.
Thank you for having me.
I'm excited for the interview today.
Well, I know you love all three of these things, Jesus, guns, and babies, because you let me come to your church and talk there about Jesus, guns, and babies.
Amen.
Exactly right.
That's a lot to live up to, that this is going to be the best interview you've ever had.
I don't know.
That's pretty big shoes to fill.
Hey, it's okay.
You can do it.
We hadn't interviewed Steve Peters yet, so Steve will be like, all right, he might be the best.
You know how Steve is.
Absolutely.
I do believe it's going to be annoying.
I prayed this morning before we started to try and get God to, you know, what do you want me to say?
What do you want me to ask Pastor Greg?
What do you want the people to hear?
And he was just giving me one thing after another.
I was like, Lord, you really want me to do this interview?
So it's going to be awesome.
I want to start with your childhood.
Most people know who you are.
I know most of my followers do, but I believe this interview is going to go viral.
And so some people may not know who you are.
And I want to go back to your foundation and your childhood and why you are who you are conservatively.
You're not scared to talk about politics in your church.
You welcome that.
You do that.
You encourage others to do that.
You are against being lukewarm.
All the things we're seeing in churches who are not reaching the lost, you're opposite of.
So tell us where that foundation came from.
Well, my grandmother and my grandfather, who are now in heaven, they were both very formative in my early years.
They took me to a Baptist church all the time listening to preaching.
They had to drag me.
But the older I got, the more I got away from that.
But I get my demonstrative spirit from my granddaddy.
Sometimes I tell folks, I'm almost 47 years old, and when I open my mouth, my grandfather walks out.
And so I'm very old fashioned.
I'm very old school when it comes to that militancy and that fight that is within me.
But just before my grandmother passed away, I had received Christ.
She had been saying for years that I was going to be her little preacher.
And everybody in the family thought she was cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
I mean, why in the world would I be a preacher?
I was arrested six times, on probation five times.
And then in 1992, I was taken in state's custody from my family.
I was shipped about 35, 40 miles from here to Murfreesboro, where I lived in a boy's home.
In an orphanage for four years.
So April the 17th of 92, 30 years ago, I trusted Christ at a Baptist church in a revival meeting, in a youth revival with about 600 teenagers.
And I was mad as a hornet the night that I went on Friday.
I got so angry, but then I was forced to go back on Saturday living at that children's home.
I didn't have a choice.
And a dear preacher, David Benoit, he still preaches to this day.
He got up He preached the word of God.
And it was almost like every time he leaned over the pulpit, he was just putting his finger right in my face.
I mean, there's all these people there, but it felt like I was the only one there.
And I knew that in my rebellion and my disobedience and all of my brokenness and my juvenile delinquency and my drugs, I knew that night, this is it.
This is your golden opportunity to receive the truth of the gospel.
And although I knew the truth, I never wanted to submit to it because my grandmother always said, now, if you ever get saved, Jesus will change your life.
And I'll be honest, I didn't want him to change my life.
I didn't want to repent and believe the gospel.
I wanted to live my own way.
Yet the Bible says, if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature.
Old things are passed away.
Behold, all things are become new.
And 30 years ago, I walked out.
My basketball coach led me to Christ.
And I figured out that fast that indeed you are a new creature in Christ.
And the Lord just began to work in my life.
About six months later, I surrendered to preach in 1992.
And I knew at that moment, wow, the sky's the limit.
If this is what God wants, I'm not going to tiptoe in.
I'm not just going to barely get involved.
I'm going to be all in with everything that I have.
I began to mow grass on Saturdays so I could make 30 bucks I'd take my 30 bucks, I'd go across town to a little town outside of Nashville called Smyrna, Tennessee, AM 710, and I would give them my $30 after I just mowed some grass, and I would get behind just a microphone, and I would preach live for 30 minutes when I was 17 years old on the radio.
I would book nursing homes, rescue missions, jail services.
I'd preach to anybody.
Anybody that would listen, I would create opportunities, and I've always had that drive.
And so even now, after 16,000 sermons, 48 states, 15 countries, and pastor a successful growing church, I still have that drive.
I live and long to tell people the experience that I had with Jesus Christ.
That's what I love about you is your passion.
You know, passion is something that if we don't have and we don't fan the flames of, we're just irrelevant.
And so I love that about you.
Whenever I've heard you speak all these times, I've never heard that you lived in a children's home.
I knew that you had some drug things and you had, you know, a really good salvation experience.
But I have a children's home in our small town where we live.
And so I deal a lot with children's home students through My work.
And, you know, that is a miracle in itself that you came out of that.
That's even worse than foster care most times because you have no relationship.
Yeah.
Four years I lived there and God used it in an unbelievable way.
And it's still going to this day.
We still support them.
Wow, that is miraculous.
I mean, really, I'm blown away.
That's amazing.
So you're calling on your life.
I know your grandmother saw it in you.
She saw a gifting in you.
And then you went back to that.
And I believe, as I was listening, it was the word spoken over you.
It was her speaking that over you.
And so talk about that for a second, about just how powerful it is for us, what we say and what we believe for.
You know, the Bible says in Proverbs, death and life are in the power of the tongue.
And you can actually word curse people.
You know, for example, if you grew up in a home where a father or a mother said, oh, you're never going to amount to anything.
I wish you were never born.
You're fat.
You're ugly.
You've got crooked teeth.
That's stuff that people will live with for the rest of their life.
You can word curse people literally because death and life are in the power of the tongue.
But you can also speak life over people.
You can speak the anointing over people.
I'm not talking about speaking things into existence.
I'm just saying that our words have gravity.
Our words carry weight and a lot of power.
So, for example, if I get up on a Sunday morning and I have a bad attitude and I'm just in the doldrums and I'm down and I'm I'm preaching all discouraged.
By the time that service ends, everybody in that service is going to be under the influence of the power of my words that I've spoken deaf into that service.
But when I get up and I'm passionate and I'm excited and I'm shouting and I'm jumping around whistling Dixie as we call it, you know what happens?
The Spirit of God works because He works.
Through the power of our words.
And so I want to say to parents and to grandparents, to pastors, to leaders, to podcasters, listen, speak life over people.
There's enough death in this nation.
There's enough death around the world.
Let's be positive.
Let's be godly.
Jesus spoke life and life more abundantly over people.
And so when my grandmother spoke that over me, I may not have received it then, but at 47, I'm glad she spoke it over me because I'm telling you, those words came to pass because she spoke life into my spirit.
You know, what I really like about you is that you're not, you don't sugarcoat stuff.
So you speak life and you're encouraging, but you also speak truth and love.
So that truth, it's like a double-edged sword.
And it can tear you down if it's negative.
But when it's truth, it should bring healing and it should bring freedom.
And so I have been dealing with this whole thing in my spirit, praying about it like frequency.
And when we pray, our words have a And they never leave the throne of God.
They circle the throne of God forever.
And then some of the worship music that is, I think, is a frequency that the Holy Spirit doesn't like.
And maybe Satan knows that.
I don't know.
Sometimes it's wonderful.
And then sometimes we get in ruts.
And so we have to be sensitive to the Spirit because I believe that our words matter and music matters.
Our worship matters.
Every bit of it works together.
100%.
100%.
That's why there's a spirit of prophecy, but there's also a spirit of divination.
And the spirit of divination can hijack people that have a spirit of prophecy.
That's why you have to have the right kind of worship, because there is a wrong kind of worship.
In the book of Psalms, for example, about 40 of the Psalms historically have a setting just above them that says a song of deliverance.
Because David understood the power of playing music before demonized King Saul.
And the Bible says that when he would play that music, the evil spirit from the Lord that came upon Saul would depart from him.
And then later in the text, when he would stop playing, it would come back.
And so music is powerful.
Ezekiel 28, Isaiah chapter 14, you know, Satan falls from heaven.
And we have a lot of reasons contextually to believe that Lucifer had a lot to do with the musical arrangements in heaven.
And so he understands that frequency.
There's a right frequency and there's a wrong one.
That's why we got to be tuned in and turned on to the power of the Holy Spirit.
And my favorite worship is your church.
No joke.
I would turn it on and listen to it.
I'll go back and listen to you.
I love your worship, Pastor.
Her heart is beautiful.
It's always a set that goes together.
It's like...
Perfectly.
And I believe that you have a hand in that.
Of course, the Lord definitely has his hand in that.
But I do.
I mean, you can go to churches where worship's off, but the preaching is good, but you don't feel the same way when you go and when you leave.
So I think it's critical.
I don't know what point I'm talking about that, but I think that it's important because we'll have pastors listening to this too, and they need to be cognizant of that and what's going on in their worship.
I want to talk about spiritual laws.
And I know that what you've been dealing with with Deliverance Ministry, and I do want to get into that because we're going to get into your movie that's coming out.
I want you to go ahead and mention the movie really quick.
Yeah, absolutely.
March the 13th, come out in Jesus' name.
It's in theaters nationwide, and it's going to be a one-night release.
And then as soon as the credits roll and it goes dark, I come on in the theater.
I'll be in the tent live, and they'll satellite me into every theater in America that's playing it, and I'll do 30 minutes of live mass deliverance.
And so it's literally going to be the largest mass deliverance in the history of the church.
And it's going to be beautiful.
It's going to be unbelievable.
So again, March 13th, come out in Jesus' name.
And of course, all the information, come out in Jesusname.com.
I feel the Holy Spirit right now.
I don't know you were going to do that.
That is amazing.
Yeah, it's going to be powerful.
And I mean, Fathom, we're talking about a secular network, you know, that's releasing this movie.
And they're as excited about me doing a live mass deliverance as they are the movie themselves.
And we are so far ahead out of the gate for ticket sales.
It's unbelievable how many theaters all over America are selling out.
They undersold in their mind the need and the desire and the hunger for this subject.
People are like, oh, nobody wants to talk about demons.
No, everybody wants to talk about demons because new age is everywhere.
New age is everywhere, and people are looking for power.
So I say, look, this movie is not about new age.
It's about new life in Jesus Christ.
And so I know we'll get around to talking about the movie, but I'm telling you, Come Out in Jesus' Name is not just your run-of-the-mill documentary.
It is a life-changing theatrical release whereby tens of thousands of people are going to get saved and going to get set free through the name of Jesus.
Amen.
I say, y'all, hold on tight.
We're going to get there.
We're going to build it up to that.
But I wanted to mention it just in case somebody hopped on and got a second.
You know, they stay tuned.
So I want to talk about spiritual law because we are seeing more of everything you talked about, witchcraft and new age and people are hungry.
We are spiritual beings in a physical world and we are hungry for the supernatural and the spiritual.
And you know that better than I do.
And that's my spiritual gift is discernment.
So I feel good in people.
I feel bad in people.
The first time I met you, Pastor Gray, and I'm really, I can feel like if someone's lying, if they're fake, I can just feel it.
And the first time I met you and your wife, y'all had the sweetest spirit in Just like this power.
When you prayed over me that day, I felt the Holy Spirit all over me.
There were things you said to me in that prayer I carried through my whole campaign for governor.
And you pray over so many people.
I know you don't remember what you said to me, but the Holy Spirit just used you that day.
And I think that it is so important for people to understand spiritual law and how that works.
And have an authentic person in their life that truly loves the Lord.
None of us are perfect.
We're all broken vessels.
But that's willing to listen and invest the time in people and in Him and your relationship with Him.
No doubt you have a relationship with the Lord.
You're not here to be famous.
You're here to have a relationship with Him and to pour that into people.
So just talk about spiritual love for a few minutes, if you will.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, principles and laws in the Bible are unchangeable.
It's like laws that are on the books here, right?
You may not like the law.
You may not even submit to the law.
But the law is the law.
And there's always these consequences and ramifications for either obedience or disobedience.
Now, when we talk about spiritual laws, for example, there's the law of sowing and reaping, right?
That is a law that is foundationally fixed just as much as gravity.
You always reap what you sow.
You always reap more than you sow.
But you never reap a thing until you sow.
And so people have to understand it's like the boomerang effect.
It's God's principle of stewardship.
And it works in really every area of our life.
So when you try to govern your life out from under the law of God, the Bible says you become a law unto yourself.
And every man does that which is right in his own eyes.
And if you don't believe that, just get on Twitter right now and figure out that every man is doing that which is right in their own eyes.
The people are buckwild, demonized.
They're looking.
They're hungry.
They're thirsty.
False prophets and false preachers and false priests are in the land selling them a bill of goods, letting them think every day's a Friday and everybody's going to be healthy, wealthy, and wise.
And so what happens is nobody understands how to govern their life because they're not in submission to the Word of God.
And if you're not in submission to the Word of God, of course you're going to be chaotic.
Of course your life is going to spin wildly out of control.
Proverbs 3, 5, and 6 are some of the most beautiful verses in the Bible, but they're some of the most abused because we like to skip over it.
The Bible says, trust in the Lord with all thine heart.
We preach on that, but we never preach on the next part.
And lean not unto thine own understanding.
So the law is, if you lean on your own understanding, you're not going to be wise.
You're going to feel very chaotic.
Your life is going to spin wildly out of control.
But if you lean not unto your own understanding, here's what happens when you submit to that law.
In all your ways, acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.
People have no direction because they have no directive.
They have nothing that they're looking at, right?
They need to get their nose out of the newspaper and stick it in the Bible.
Sometimes we've got to get off Facebook and put our face in the book.
And so you cannot change the laws of God no matter how much people try.
That's why David said, Now, there are a lot of laws in the Bible, but these principles that we cannot get away from, if we would simply read and study the context of Scripture, we would find that the way of the transgressor is hard, right?
You cut God out of your life, you can never get ahead.
That's a law.
You cut God out of your life, you cannot get ahead.
But the principle of the Bible is, seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you, Matthew 6.33.
Because 1 John says that the law of God is not grievous to those who live a righteous life.
So the reason the law of God doesn't bother me is because I'm submitted to it.
The reason the law of God bothers the culture is because they are not submitted to it.
Does that make sense?
Yes, perfect sense.
And what about witchcraft and the supernatural and what we're seeing?
So you got this spiritual laws that we are all governed by, and we know if we don't submit to God who we're submitting to.
Yep.
But talk about, because to me, it's grown astronomically.
Even where I live in my small towns in South Georgia, I've heard about it.
But then my friends in North Georgia, there are like covens or covens, covens, I guess, of witches.
And they even go to your churches and you think that they're Christians, but they're not.
But they're out there, you know, they're burning sage and they're doing tarot cards.
And they're, I mean, my husband teaches and he's had to pull out tarot cards in his class before.
And kids, they just are hungry for the supernatural.
While a guy, my daughter came down, my 15-year-old, had TikTok, and it was this app that you do, and it tells you if you're more masculine or feminine, which we know where that comes from, I'm confused, that I felt the spirit of witchcraft.
I said, turn that off right now.
I said, well, mom, I'm not going to do it.
I said, turn it off.
But they're targeting our youth.
They're just showing this stuff.
And even they have this trying to make them look masculine or feminine.
I guarantee you every girl on there is going to have a masculine face and every boy is going to have a feminine face on purpose.
So talk about this.
Why the teenagers are hungry for and why media is pushing this narrative.
First of all, we've got to kind of dial things back and figure out what is witchcraft, you know, according to the Bible.
Everybody's like, well, it's witchcraft flying around on a broom, Wizard of Oz, whatever.
No, here's what the Bible says in 1 Samuel 15, 23.
Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, right?
Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
So witchcraft, number one, is rebellion against the laws of God.
Absolutely.
It is a life that is not lived in submission to the will and the ways of God.
But at the very core of what witchcraft is, it's manipulation.
It is the manipulation of people's minds.
People do it in marriage.
People do it in ministry.
People do it with their money.
People do it all the time.
And we see so much of a spirit of manipulation in this nation.
But people are hungry for something bigger than themselves.
For example, when Moses and Aaron stood before Pharaoh, you know, let my people go, let my people go.
When they stood before him, the first thing they did was throw down a stick.
And the stick immediately turned into a serpent.
But the Egyptian magicians that worshiped false gods, they threw down a stick and it turned into a serpent as well.
Because there is power in witchcraft.
You see, the devil can't create anything.
He can only imitate.
That's why he's called the Antichrist.
He can't make stuff.
He has to make stuff up.
So God gives us real power.
The devil comes in with a falsified power to make you feel like you have authority when really what you have is just a fulfillment of arrogance.
And so there is a power there.
That's why people get involved in yoga.
That's why people get involved in New Age, healing crystals, burning sage.
I did a video maybe a month and a half, two months ago.
I went to our local Books A Million.
I've never seen so many books on Satanism, pentagrams, and witchcraft in all of my born days.
And then you get people with a platform, like worship leaders, pastors.
They get up and they start teaching on the Enneagram and how you can figure out, you know, your characteristics.
All it is is just horoscopes repackaged.
It's witchcraft repackaged.
It started years and years ago with, you know, Nickelodeon and Disney, Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
Oh, that's so cute.
That's no big deal.
And then all of a sudden Harry Potter came out and then every mover with Harry Potter got darker and more dark and more dark.
And so it's interesting that when you and I come out and say, you know, Harry Potter, Twilight, that stuff is witchcraft.
What bothers me in the church world is people will defend that First and more defiantly than they will defend the Word of God.
And they're like, oh, that's not witchcraft.
And clearly their kids are having nightmares.
Their marriage has fallen apart.
They're addicted to pornography.
They see things in their house.
They feel things in their bedroom.
And they have a house that's full of witchcraft.
And then they get mad at Greg Locke when I stand up and say, your house is full of witchcraft.
Get a bag.
Take all that stuff out.
Go burn it out back.
Get rid of those dream catchers.
Get rid of all that stuff that connects you to the occult.
And people are like, oh man, he's such a hate monger.
He's such a judgmental individual.
I'm telling you, we have got to cleanse our lives, our homes, and our physical dwelling places.
You can cast a demon out of a house just as easily and successfully as you can cast a demon out of a person.
I'm telling you, demons are territorial and they are destroying people's lives because our children in our public schools are addicted to the phenomenon of TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, all that kind of stuff.
And at an alarming rate, they are seeing more and more witchcraft.
Every day.
Spells and all this hocus-pocus nonsense.
And we look at it and we think, well, that's not a big deal.
It's the biggest deal of this generation.
The generation right now that is so involved in witchcraft will be the next generation that is involved in full-blown Satanism.
And we've seen it come full circle.
And nobody wants to talk about it for some reason.
But our churches, even pastors in this nation, are full-blown what I call voodoo witch doctors.
They operate in a spirit of divination.
And it is disgusting that people won't stand up and say something about it.
So the reason we put this movie out is to let people know the church is filled with witchcraft.
And God said enough is enough.
Call it for what it is.
Call it out.
Burn it.
And watch the Word of God grow in your life.
You said something really powerful about several things you said that was very powerful.
But one thing that I took from it is it is so easy to To have power with witchcraft and Satanism.
It's easy.
And I think that is what happens in people's lives.
They feel like, you know what?
This has power to it.
They think horoscope.
Oh, it doesn't coincide with my personality.
Oh, this is, you know, Vampire Diaries or Twilight.
And it, you know, it makes me feel like a love story that I want to have.
But it's got cutting of flesh and blood and things that were used as sacrificial things in the Bible.
And they're getting power from that.
But it's easy.
It's easy.
Right.
It's easy power.
Of course, here's the difference.
It's artificial. - It's official.
Absolutely.
Here's how you can know the difference between God's power and the devil's power.
The devil will give you free power, but you'll pay for it later.
God won't give you free power.
It'll cost you to have the power of the Holy Spirit in your life.
Because everybody wants the power, nobody wants the process.
The devil takes out the process.
He gives you power immediately, but you pay for it later.
But in God's law, in God's kingdom-mindedness, you pay for it up front, and then you're blessed later.
And so everybody wants a quick fix.
Everybody wants quick power.
If you want the power of God, you better grow up.
You better mature.
You better get in the Word.
You better fast.
You better pray.
You better find your family a good church.
You better submit to the Word of God.
That's how you get power in God's kingdom.
In the devil's kingdom, he'd just give it to you immediately, and that power destroys you.
Because if you don't have the capacity to handle that power, it will end up being the very thing that is your demise.
It will not be a blessing to you.
Wow, that's powerful.
You know, I had a guest on a couple of weeks ago.
She's actually going to be on the week after you, Maria Z. But she was talking about she went down a satanic Bible kind of path for a while.
And she said in the satanic Bible that it talked a lot about how to separate from God on purpose.
It was teaching you how to separate from God.
Well, we know the more you go into sin, you're going to separate from God.
So they encourage you to have orgies.
They encourage you to do witchcraft.
They encourage you to do anything to gain power demonically to separate you from God.
Now, isn't that interesting?
And it went right with what you said.
So it's work up front to get close to God.
It's relational.
How hard do we work on our marriages, Pastor Greg?
We have to invest time.
It's relationship.
So we invest the time in the relationship with the Lord and the blessing is so abundant we can't hold it all.
Amen.
Amen.
That's awesome.
I love that.
That whole thing.
I love that.
People are going to love that.
So, I want to talk about how to deal with witches.
Because we are seeing a witchcraft.
There are people even watching this today that do not understand.
If you love the Lord and you're standing for Him, the witches are out to get you.
Maybe even in your church.
Someone's jealous of you.
I believe the manipulation.
But there's also this jealousy that comes over people that the enemy uses to get them to destroy you any way they can.
And so you, I believe, are attacked with witches worse than anybody in the world.
I believe 100% because of what you're doing.
And I, because I'm in standing for Jesus, guns, and babies, and because I spoke about the Guidestones being torn down and they were struck with lightning and people that were worshiping there who were...
Literally hate my guts.
I get attacked all the time for the Guidestones following like I did it.
You know, it was struck with lightning.
I'm not God.
But I did want them down.
Praise the Lord, they're gone.
I believe that you have skills that you've learned and God's shown you.
So tell us, how do we deal with which one?
Well, first of all, you have to boldly acknowledge their existence.
You've got to get away from this long, pointy nose, green face, Wizard of Oz, flying around on a broom idea.
Witches are reality.
Matter of fact, our public school system is hiring full-blown, well-known witches at an alarming rate.
I mean, Facebook, there are huge, huge, massive, I mean thousands of people in these witches' covens.
Now, here's what's interesting.
I've never dressed up like a witch so I could infiltrate a witch's coven and pretend to be one of them.
But witches dress up like Christians and come to churches all the time.
So much so.
Now, I know pastors get mad about that.
Well, we don't have any witches that come to our church.
That's because your church is not a threat to them.
Right?
And if your church becomes a threat to them, they'll start showing up and start hexing and vexing.
Listen, astral projection is a reality.
It is an absolute reality.
Witchcraft is powerfully real, and it is dragging people to hell.
Revelation 21, 8, sorcery, spirit of divination.
I'm telling you, it is real.
It is so real, in fact.
Now, this will sound abrasive, and thank God we're in the New Testament, but witchcraft is so abrasive.
It is so ungodly.
That in the Old Testament, here's what God told Israel.
I suffer not a witch to live.
God would not even allow them to live in the confines of the Israeli nation because they were so provocative.
They caused so much division, so much manipulation.
Now, I've had to do something that some people think is a little bit maybe overboard, but I've had to do this in our ministry.
Unless I really know somebody, we have to shut down because we have long meet-and-greet lines.
You've seen them when I go and preach, and especially at our church, people come to our deliverance conferences and things like that and our deliverance services.
I have to make a standing announcement every single Sunday night.
I did it just last night.
God did not tell you to lay hands on me and pray over me.
I have to do that all the time because I let my guard down a few times and we had some witches come in, lay hands on me and pray.
And I'm telling you, it rocked my world.
I'm telling you, witchcraft is real.
In the spirit realm, you better be able to see that stuff.
And I mean, I got sick.
It messed my flesh up.
I was having nightmares and I'm like, what in the world?
And every single time it would happen, it was always a common denominator that I was allowing people in a meet and greet line that I didn't know that seemed sincere to lay hands on me and say, Can we pray for you?
And it sounds so sweet, but I'm telling you, people will hex you.
People will vex you.
They'll speak word curses and oaths over you.
And so I told people, look, unless you're my staff, unless you're one of our pastors, unless you're my pastor friend, unless I know who you are and we've prayed together before, don't lay hands on me.
That's why the Bible says lay hands suddenly on no man.
We do not allow anybody in a deliverance conference that has not been trained by our local church authority to be released to pray over people and lay hands on folks because we have so many witches that come in.
And you know what witches do?
Witches have a very interesting work in deliverance ministry.
Witches don't cast out demons.
Witches transfer demons.
They transfer spirits from people to people to people.
That's why some people have a hard time.
They're like, well, you know, you believe that demons only come out in the name of Jesus, but I've been watching this famous guy in Pakistan, this guy that's a, you know, he's a Muslim, I mean, whatever he is, and he's casting out demons.
In the name of Allah.
No, he's not.
He's transferring spirits from person to person to person and making it worse.
He's not casting anything out because demons only come out through the power of the name of Jesus.
All he is doing is making it worse for the next person.
They're just swapping around.
Witchcraft is just a shale game.
It's the next person that they can manipulate.
We do have a lot of witches that come against our ministry.
We have a lot of witches that come to our church for whatever reason.
But it's interesting because God's given us such an authority and such a discernment, as you called it a moment ago, for them that we can almost, we can smell them when they're in a room.
And I mean, they either get right or get out.
They can normally not make an entire service because we just make it very uncomfortable for them.
And so I jokingly tell them all the time, we got a room full of brooms.
We'll give you one.
You can fly out of here in Jesus' name.
Well, you know, I one time encountered a witch on my campaign trail, and she shook my hand, and I knew it was so crazy.
I walked up to her, and the Lord has never done this before.
He said, no.
I went to shake her hand.
He said, no.
I felt like I'm running for office.
Everybody's watching me.
I have to do it.
He told me no, and I shook her hand.
Okay?
So, then I, and it felt like electricity.
She transferred something to me.
So, then she She started talking to me about abortion and about hermaphrodites and how I was being unreasonable and blah, blah, blah.
And so we kind of had a little, you know, and I said, no, thou shall not murder.
Thou shall not kill, period.
So anyway, she leaves.
I get in the car and I'm having pain all the way to my elbow, like pain.
And I'm like, I would think I was having a heart attack, but it's on my right arm, not my left arm.
And so, I mean, Ryan, my husband, he was like, Kendi, this is ridiculous.
So he's praying over me.
I'm praying over me.
We pray, pray, pray the blood of Jesus, you know, blah, blah, blah.
It would not go away.
It was on my bus tour.
Went to two more stops by the third stop.
I'm feeling nauseated.
I said, Lord, what do I say?
So I'm sorry.
I prayed in the spirit.
I mean, I was praying in the spirit.
I could not get to stop.
And he said, cast it out.
Yep.
And I said, get off of me.
In the name of Jesus, whatever tactics, immediately the pain left.
Absolutely.
I had never delivered myself, but I did that day.
But you're right.
It will transfer just like that.
And the Holy Spirit told me no.
And I shook her head anyway.
It's dangerous.
There are entire Facebook pages that are out there of people.
You can't see their face, but they'll have like these potions and spells and their entire pages are anti-Greg Locke.
We're doing death spells and all kind of hexes and vexes.
And I mean, sometimes I sit around and I just, I laugh.
And I think these people are literally doing like 30 minute to an hour spells just against me, just to destroy me and the church and our family.
Look, let me tell you something.
In the spirit, we're 10 foot tall and bulletproof, and we will be done when God says we're done.
If they could have killed us, they would have done it a long time ago.
They hate us.
They hate our church.
I had a demon flare-up last night in this little girl, and I had gone to the house.
I was doing some stuff.
My wife was still working with this girl.
I didn't know this girl from Adam's house, Captain.
I never met her a day in my life.
Group of people around her.
She's growling, foaming at the mouth, screaming her lungs out.
I go to the house.
I'm doing some stuff.
I come back like 45 minutes later and I walk in the room and I didn't even come in her vicinity.
I mean, she's 20 feet from me.
I'm standing on the stage.
There's a black curtain that kind of separates me and her.
And she sensed me when I walked in the room.
And I mean, she started saying all manner of crazy, evil stuff about me.
I'm telling you.
Those monitoring spirits are working through these witches in powerful, powerful ways, and they will destroy your life if you do not stand up and take authority and call them out for what they are.
And I'm going to say one more thing about this astral projection.
People laugh about it.
You talk to anybody in Hollywood, you talk to these rappers, you talk to these hip hop artists, they are talking about astral projection at an alarming rate.
People don't recognize that in 1969, the founder of the Satanic Church and the author of the Satanic Bible, Anton LaVey, the way that Anton LaVey died was literally in an astral projection accident.
He could not get his spirit back into his body.
His silver cord was cut.
And that's how Anton LaVey died.
It's an unbelievable story, a verifiable true story.
And so these witches, if they've ever been there, for example, I've had people say, wow, I feel like there's a presence in my house.
And what I find out is they've had a witch come to their house because anywhere a witch has ever been, she can astral project and she can go back in the spirit realm.
And that may sound fantastical and that may sound crazy.
If they do it in a Harry Potter movie, we laugh at it.
But when a preacher says something about it, we're like, oh, that can't happen.
Oh, absolutely.
It can happen.
You better cleanse your house.
I'm telling you, witches are real.
Call them out for what they are and stop patty caking with demons.
Well, let's talk about what it is real quick so people know they're listening because I don't want them to Google it.
Don't Google it.
Okay, so this is what it is.
My best friend, her grandmother was a witch growing up.
She used to do it.
She stared in a candle wick and her spirit would leave her body and there's a silver cord that they leave with their spirit because we're spirit beings in a physical world.
And she was asleep for days after.
Days.
And it ages you.
A lot of witches, they age faster because they're astral projecting.
It ages your body.
And I had something that happened to me last weekend.
And I was, you know, I don't understand.
It was a weird thing that happened.
I'm not going to go into detail about it.
But the Holy Spirit told me the next morning...
There was curses around that situation, and that's why that happened that way.
And there was actual projection involved.
And so I remember my daughter was having breath-holding spells when she was two, and I had made a witch mad.
I didn't know she was a witch at the time, but I was doing my job, made the witch mad, and she was actual projecting in my house.
And I was at my refrigerator getting some Milk for my two-year-old.
She'd woken up in the middle of the night, and I turned around.
I felt the Spirit, and I said, and I don't know nothing about a silver cord, but I said, I sever that silver cord with the blood of Jesus right now.
It went away just like that, and she went back to my house again, and was out of work then for several weeks.
Isn't that crazy?
It's real.
Even Ecclesiastes talks about the silver cord.
And so people can think this is fantastical and crazy.
I'll tell you one more.
We are so involved in this.
We are so neck deep in deliverance ministry that just two weeks ago, almost three weeks ago, about two and a half weeks ago now, for the first time, this actually happened to us.
And we've had witches come.
We've had to close down astral projection portals, all that kind of stuff, right?
We've seen thousands of demons come out of thousands of people.
But two and a half weeks ago, we had one of the most unusual experiences we ever had.
We had a lady that, I mean, she was so filled with the principality, it looked like it is never going to come out.
We're praying.
We're pressing in.
We're praying in the spirit.
We're singing over.
The ladies are flag worshipping.
She is so flared up.
She is so mad.
And then all of a sudden, she stops.
She looks my wife right in the face.
We got the whole thing on video.
It is one of the most uncanny, chilling things I've ever been involved in.
She stops.
And her face completely changes.
I mean, it looks like CGI takes over this woman's face.
It completely changes.
And a witch from Boston, Massachusetts, had astral projected into her body, changed her entire face.
Her voice changed.
And the witch from Boston started talking to me and my wife and the deliverance team through the face of this woman.
It was the most un...
And she knew things about us.
She knew things about the church.
She knew things about our team.
And I'm telling you, this stuff is so real.
And that's why they're allowing children to be entertained by it.
Because once they're entertained by it, then they're like, oh, wow, I enjoyed that.
I got to have that.
And it's a little more and a little more.
And pretty soon, they're involved in full-blown witchcraft and in total denial of God.
You know, I'm glad you said, Pastor Greg, about the children because I want to make a point that I heard and did not know this, but somebody that used to be a witch told me this.
Children of witches, they're used in a sexual way and they allow their children to be used because they gain more power in their witchcraft.
And so a lot of times I'm seeing students, I'm hearing about students with other counselors who their children are confused, non-binary, or they're transgender.
And I think it's because they've been sexually abused because they weren't allowed to be abused to get their parents' power.
Do you know about that?
Have you heard that too?
Oh, very much so.
Yeah, very much so.
When people are involved in full-blown witchcraft, it's so nefarious.
They'll use their kids like animals.
It doesn't make any difference.
There has to be a sacrifice for that power, right?
And you're going to make the sacrifice.
You're going to pay the price.
You're absolutely going to pay the price.
Can you talk about another, because I love that experience, but anything else, and I know we'll get into the movie now, and I want to hear about, is it something in the movie, or maybe not even in the movie, but one of your favorite deliverance moments?
I don't know if I got a favorite one because there's a lot of them.
And we just last night finished up 53 straight Sunday nights with no break whatsoever consecutively of mass deliverance.
And you're talking about hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people.
They come every single week.
Plus, we still do appointments.
We're doing Zoom calls, you know, and meeting people, sometimes one, sometimes 150 people on a Zoom call and literally casting out spirits.
We could keep...
I could keep 20 people on a full-time salary and do nothing but deliverance.
We still have that many people that are coming to our church.
Now, the longest standing deliverance to date in the last little more than a year that we've really been kind of immersed and baptized in this is a young lady named Kelsey.
She actually runs our Adoption Foundation right now.
She's the longest standing deliverance we've ever had.
She's in the movie for just a snippet talking about some things, but it was 18 and a half straight hours.
Eighteen and a half straight hours.
We had just got involved in deliverance ministry.
We were very, very new to it.
But what kind of sold me, if I can use that terminology, that this is real, that these demons are not playing, that these people cannot just make this up.
I know some people do make stuff up, but there's no way they're manifesting this.
It's eerie to even talk about, but we were upstairs in my office.
It was my wife and I and Kelsey.
And she had, I mean, by this time, we were probably...
Eight or ten hours in.
I mean, she was she was full blown screaming, retching, throwing up the whole deal.
Well, our tour bus was coming to pick me up and nobody knew I was going out of town.
But my wife, I was going to preach.
I was coming to Georgia.
As a matter of fact, I was coming to preach for a couple of nights and the bus was going to pick me up at nine o'clock.
Nobody on the planet except me, my wife and the driver of the bus and my assistant knew that I was leaving at nine o'clock.
And we were casting that demon out.
We're talking to that demon, talking to that demon.
And Kelsey's voice, it kept changing.
It would get deep and she would talk like a man.
And she just stopped for a minute and she put up her arm.
She had a watch on and I forget it.
She put up her arm and she turned and she looked at me and she started clicking on that watch.
She said, nine o'clock's almost here.
That bus will be here.
You're going to be leaving and I'm staying.
Nine o'clock's almost here.
And in that moment, I knew...
Glory be to God.
This is the craziest thing I've ever been involved in because that monitoring spirit monitored my schedule, knew everything that was going on on that campus, and they talked to each other.
I mean, they talked to each other.
And that night, I knew, wow, we've opened a whole new keg of worms in the spiritual realm, and we better suit up and boot up and get ready because it's coming and it's here.
And there's no distance in the spirit.
And that's how they communicate.
There's no distance.
And those familiar spirits, you're saying monitoring spirits.
I've heard them called familiar, but that's interesting you're saying monitoring because it's true.
I mean, they are.
They're with you for generations, for millennia.
Absolutely.
That's why generational curses come because we're predispositioned to respond to certain things in certain situations, our personalities.
I believe in horoscopes.
I believe in DNA. That's how God created us.
Yeah.
because of our personality and our DNA that we pass down.
And so they attack us in that way.
So what God needs for our gifting and for good things, the enemy tries to switch it and twist it.
But that's a great demonstration of power.
Tell me about the prophetic and deliverance, because I see you as an evangelist, but really I think you're probably an apostle because you touch all the five-fold ministry, but To me, your evangelism and salvation and now deliverance and people getting set free, that feels like your anointing.
But Pastor Greg, here on this interview right here, I'm seeing more prophetic anointing on you.
And you've been able to recognize and call it out and seeing it.
Do you see yourself growing in that?
Or talk about how that works with the deliverance ministry.
I absolutely see myself growing in that because we have become a five-fold ministry.
And so what people need to understand is deliverance is what we do.
It's not who we are, right?
Every believer can lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.
Every believer can cast out demons in the name of Jesus, but some people have a higher grace for it.
I never recognized the fact that in the gift listings and the manifestation gifts, the first Corinthians chapter 12, one of the gifts is discerning of spirits.
Why would discerning of spirits be one of the gifts?
Unless there was somebody that had more of a knack and more of a grace and more of a faith to recognize those spirits in the spirit realm so that they could call them out.
There's no reason to discern them.
If you're not going to take authority over them because spirits do not respond to arrogance.
They're not going to take authority over them.
They respond to authority.
And so what I'm finding is in deliverance ministry, one of the most effective things God has done is, I don't know who these people are.
I've never met them a day in my life.
And the Holy Spirit says, here's what they're struggling with.
Call it out.
That's prophetic.
You've got to have that discernment.
You've got to have that word of knowledge.
You've got to have that word of wisdom.
And you start saying things like, you know, you'll look at somebody, for example, you don't know anything about them, but they're crying.
They're throwing up.
They're retching.
You're trying to figure out how to get something out of them.
And the Holy Spirit says, they were abused by their father.
Call it out right now.
And I'll say, you need to forgive your father for abusing you.
Ah!
How did you know that?
You have to learn to flow in the prophetic, because if you don't, you will not be able to have power.
Because what we find, and these deliverance workers don't last long, some of them, because what we find is they just call out everything, scream at everything.
They think you have to yell at demons like they're deaf and they can't hear.
And they're just, you know, they have no discernment.
And they're just, they're looking, looking, looking, grasping.
You know what them demons will do?
They'll call you out.
We've had demons look at our deliverance team and say, what are you doing?
You don't even fast.
You've never read your Bible.
You're not being faithful to your spouse.
We've had them call them out.
I mean, call out known sins in their life.
And all of a sudden, they're like, I don't think I want to be on the deliverance team.
So look, you're going to start fighting devils.
You better live holy.
You better live holy.
If you think you're just going to run around like Indiana Jones cracking whips and getting devils to come out of people, and you're not going to read your Bible, you're not going to fast, you're going to look at pornography, you know, you're going to...
No, no, no.
I'm telling you, if you don't walk holy and righteous and prophetically in the Spirit, those demons will annihilate you because they know everything about you.
Because once your name is out there, Jesus I know and Paul I know, but who are you?
And when those demons start knowing you, they will try to embarrass you.
They will try to intimidate you.
They will monitor you and the whole deal.
But you have to learn to take authority over it.
And so I think one of the greatest giftings that the Lord has been maturing me in is the prophetic so that I can see into that spiritual realm and say, oh, no, I'm not dealing with flesh and blood.
I'm dealing with a principality.
And in the name of Jesus, I know who you are.
You come out right now.
And they're like, how did you know?
How did you know?
It don't matter how I knew.
God told me, come out.
Well, as your friend, we've been friends for two years, and that's my gift, is to start in the spirits.
And God's growing me in the prophetic.
But I can tell leaps and bounds you grow in the prophetic.
It's amazing, honestly.
And the authority and the power that you're walking in, it's God using you.
And that shows me that God wants people delivered.
Yes.
He does.
What percentage?
Do you know off the top of your head the percentage of Jesus' ministry?
Wasn't that 30% or something that was deliverance?
You know what?
In actuality, it was way more than that.
It was a third of the ministry of Jesus.
If you look at Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, there are 286 verses just in the Gospels on deliverance ministry.
We call it deliverance ministry.
Jesus called it casting out demons, right?
Mark 16, these signs shall follow them that believe.
There's four main signs.
The first one is, in my name they shall cast out devils.
And so when Jesus did it for the first time, the reason the Pharisees were freaked out by it is because every miracle had already been done in the Old Testament.
I mean, think about that.
Multitudes had been fed.
Individuals had been fed.
There were water miracles.
There were natural miracles.
There was the raising of the dead.
Every miracle that we know anything about was performed in the Old Testament, except one.
A casting out of a demon.
The only thing even close to that was when the evil spirit would come off of Saul, but it didn't come out of Saul because it was only on him, not in him.
So nobody had ever seen deliverance.
And Jesus steps on the scene.
He takes his disciples to a church service in Mark chapter 1, the first of many church services, and a demon immediately manifested.
And the people are like, oh, what new doctrine is this?
They thought it was new because Jesus was the first one to ever cast out a demon in his own name.
But then once he did that, he then ordained 12 men to do it.
And the Bible says they went out and cast out demons, but that wasn't enough.
So then he ordained 70 people to do it, but that still wasn't enough.
And we know that more than just the 70 were doing it because one of the 70 came back to Jesus in the book of Luke and said, Lord, we saw somebody casting out a demon in your name and he's not even part of our group.
What do we do?
Jesus said, leave him alone.
He's either for me or against me because no man can do a miracle in my name except God be with him, right?
So let this guy cast out devils.
And so, Jesus did it.
The disciples did it.
The 70 did it.
And then, just before he ascended to heaven, he said, I'm going to let all believers do it.
And then he said, these signs shall follow them that believe.
Not these signs shall follow those that went to Bible college.
Not these signs shall follow the apostles.
These signs shall follow them that believe.
In my name they shall cast out devils.
And so, it went from there to the book of Acts.
And guess what?
The book of Acts is still being played out before our very eyes.
Or at least it should be.
Most churches are afraid of deliverance ministry.
We're not talking about poodles.
We're talking about demons.
It should make you uncomfortable.
But Jesus never did this in a corner.
It was a third of his ministry.
You know, Jesus only resurrected the dead on a couple of occasions, okay?
He only healed blind eyes twice, deafened ears once, turned water into wine once, steeled the storm twice.
Most every miracle Jesus did was either a one-and-done or two tops.
You know how many times he cast out demons?
Over and over.
So many times, in fact, the Holy Spirit had to say many, many, many.
If the Holy Spirit says many, He doesn't mean two or three or a dozen.
He means many.
It's the number one thing Jesus did in his ministry, and it's the number one thing that we want to overlook in our churches today.
Well, my husband was watching some of your stuff the other night, and he started going through reading the Bible just in Jesus' words every time he cast out demons.
And he was saying, you know, really, everybody that had the demons casted out, they loved Jesus then.
They wanted to follow him.
They wanted to be part of his ministry.
And so it's interesting that Kelsey wanted to be part of your ministry after you delivered her, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Once it's gone, it's like, oh my gosh, I'm free.
Let me be a part of this.
I want to be part of this.
So tell me how this started with the movie.
I know you've been doing deliverance ministry for over a year.
I've been following all that.
I've been watching.
I've been so excited because deliverance is my favorite thing spiritually.
And so, but what, how'd the movie come about?
Well, things were growing at such an alarming rate and so many people were calling us.
I was like, we've got to be able to take this to a bigger platform.
And I didn't even really think movies.
I thought, you know, let's do some kind of, you know, streaming service or something because YouTube videos just weren't doing it.
People were still showing up.
I mean, we were literally, until we started Mass Deliverance, we were having like 150 people sleep in the parking lot.
Every Sunday to stay over for Monday.
And I mean, we were burning the midnight oil.
We were doing 15-hour church services.
And that was unsustainable.
And that's when we didn't have a team.
You know, we got like 85 people now that help us cast out demons and thank God for them.
But I mean, it was unbelievable.
I mean, it was horrid, the amount of hours we were spending.
And so once we kind of got in a better rhythm, I came to Wayne, who's over Lock Media, and I said, look, let's figure out how to take this more to the masses.
And I was like, what about a movie?
Do you think that's even possible?
Well, I didn't know if it was until we had the National Deliverance Training Conference and all those thousands of people showed up and I'm like, okay, this is the footage that needs to be released to the world.
And so there's another documentary that's kind of coming out on Netflix in a few months and things.
It kind of just started with that.
And I said, let's do our own deal.
Let's do our own professional document.
We have a studio.
We have cameras.
We have people that work for us that know how to do all this kind of stuff.
High-tech rednecks.
Let's just go for it and see if anybody bites.
And not only did they bite, movie distribution places were actually fighting over it.
They're like, oh yeah, we want this.
We want this.
Everybody's talking about the supernatural.
And when Fathom sunk their teeth into it and it began to go and go and go, I thought, okay, we've got lightning in a bottle at this point because people want to know about this.
Even people that are scared of it, even people that think I'm hokey or think I'm too politically driven or whatever, this movie really paints an entire picture of God used controversy and politics to give us a massive platform, but it was never about controversy and politics.
It was always about setting the captives free.
It was about building a mega-sized platform so we could tell people, hey, come out in Jesus' name.
And now there's hundreds and hundreds of theaters All over America.
And now we're talking about Canada and every English-speaking country on the planet carrying this movie eventually because people are starving to death to know how can I be at freedom?
How can I be at peace?
And that's what demons do.
The number one thing an evil spirit is called to do is take your peace.
They don't care how big it is, how small it is.
They don't care how they do it.
Demons want to take your peace.
And that's why people need deliverance.
Because you'll never have peace that passes all understanding.
You'll never have full rest until you get full and complete deliverance.
And so this movie is going to show people that Christians themselves can be attacked, can be oppressed by demonic spiritual beings, and you need to learn to stand up, put on your big boy pants, take authority over it, and in Jesus' name, cast that thing out of you.
Because you can have peace, but you'll never have it if you deny the clear law of the Bible.
And the law of the Bible is there is a spiritual realm and there is a natural realm.
And our problem is we waste all of our energy fighting in the natural realm.
When what you better do is put on the arm of God so you can fight in the supernatural realm.
Because it is more real than this broadcast right now that we are on.
It is more real.
The spiritual realm, if people could see into it, they would be shocked at both the demonic And the angelic forces that are absolutely in a collision course this very second for the souls of humanity.
So I think this movie is going to open people's eyes in the church world to help them understand, I do have power.
I do have authority.
No more days of being timid and shy come out in the name of Jesus.
So tell us, so it's a miracle that it happened.
It was God.
Obviously, He wants the movie the way it happened.
Tell us, it's going to be, you're going to do some deliverance in there.
You're going to show some footage of actual deliverance.
But what else is the premise of the movie?
Are you telling how to do the deliverance ministry?
Is it a story?
Can you tell anything about that?
It is a story.
It kind of has four main arcs, four main bridges.
It really starts with my upbringing, talks about the children's home, how I got saved, and then how I was a cessationist for years.
In my Baptistic ways, I was against any miracles, tongues, signs, wonders, deliverance.
I was against all of that.
And so I build the case of how I went from a strict cessationist All of a sudden, God immersed our church in deliverance ministry nearly overnight and showed me that a lot of the things I had been preaching on was nothing more than traditions of men.
And God began to change me and challenge me.
And so it's really kind of the whole metamorphosis of how Pastor Greg Locke went from where he was to kind of where he is now.
And then it arcs into how deliverance broke out.
How I met with the other, as we call them on the internet, the Demon Slayers, and how God kind of connected all of us together.
And so there is footage of verifiable and very interesting deliverances.
A lot of the mass deliverances, you'll see people flaring up.
One of the things that we did is it's action-packed from start to finish, but it's not action-packed with just a bunch of screaming and throwing up and things like that.
We figured that's what people would expect.
We show them, here's somebody that was utterly oppressed for years and watch the moment that they get freedom through the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
And so there's a lot of that interspersed.
And then it just, it kind of arcs into now we're in this last day's revival.
Every revival in the history of the world has been in the church world since the day of Pentecost, right?
There's been healing revivals, financial revivals.
There's been every type of prophetic revival.
There's been every revival except one, deliverance.
There's never been a revival of deliverance until now.
And I believe that God is allowing us to be kind of a global spearhead to say, look, people need to be free in the name of Jesus.
And so this movie came about, and by the time it ends, people will recognize, wow, that guy's not nearly the jerk for Jesus that I thought he was.
He really does love people.
He really does love souls.
He really does want to see people set free.
And so it's a very interesting from start to finish.
It's almost like You'll sit on the edge of your seat the whole time, not just because it's full of deliverance, but it's full of testimonies.
It's full of these other men talking about how they were involved in deliverance ministry and how God literally is setting churches all over the nations globally on fire because of the message that there's power in the name of Jesus.
And so I'm telling you, I know we may be producing it.
But it's one of the most effective things.
I've probably watched it 20 times trying to figure it out.
Wow.
Just working on all the tweaks.
We wrote all the music and the score for it.
It is powerfully done.
And it's not some little hokey claymation YouTube video.
I mean, it's a full-blown theatrical release.
It is powerful.
Well, I'm the most excited about this movie.
I've been excited in a long time for a movie.
It's going to be amazing.
I cannot wait to watch it.
I'm going to tell you, I think, because I'm just always going to go back to you with politics, because that's how I met you.
That's why I connected you.
I think that we could just take your whole deliverance team to the Georgia Dome, deliver all them there, let's go to the Capitol building in D.C., deliver them all there, and check our government back.
Can we do that?
Yeah.
It would be nice.
They're going to have to want it a little bit.
I don't know if they're going to be up for deliverance, but we could give it a whirl, I'm telling you.
They need it.
If they're not, they'll come back 70 times stronger, right?
Isn't that what happens?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
But the interesting thing is, we could go and deliver the White House, but if we don't deliver God's house, we're going to stay in a mess, because we have a God's house problem, not a White House problem.
We do.
We definitely do.
And, you know, people that I see that are pastors that say negative things about you or negative things about some of the people that are prophetic right now, and I'm thinking, what is wrong with y'all?
Don't be jealous.
Let's be one body together, and let's see what God's saying, and let's move forward together.
People like to just rip and criticize instead of getting involved.
Get involved and help heal people.
That's what we're supposed to be doing.
Amen.
But I know what I'm going to do today.
I'm going to go and get, I'm going to look through my whole bookshelf.
It's over here behind me.
I'm looking at it right now.
And I'm going to ask the Lord, what do I need to kick out of my house?
There you go.
Every single thing in my house, just because I haven't done that in years.
And my kids bring books home from school and they do all these things.
And I think that that's one practical thing we can do to help our houses.
Is there anything else you can think of before you go?
Well, people definitely need to do a house cleaning.
And normally once we tell them, once they go through a mass deliverance or even a private deliverance session, look, the scales are going to fall from your eyes.
Go home, start walking around your house and pray.
Holy Spirit, show me what's connected to the occult.
What's new age?
What's a soul tie to a previous relationship?
A lot of people don't recognize that.
If they have a soul tie to a previous sexual relationship, they need to get rid of the things that keep them in that soul tie.
It's amazing to me how many people that are remarried still wear jewelry from their previous marriage.
That's a soul tie.
You got to break that off because there's going to be levels of unforgiveness that in the spiritual realm, that law is still there.
You got to break that off.
And so sometimes you got to go through the house, go through your kid's bedroom, even go through your playlists.
Go through your DVDs.
Clean that stuff out.
Get rid of all that stuff that's connected to the occult.
And just continually on a daily basis, Lord, just show me.
Just remove the scales from my eyes and then burn it, right?
Get rid of it.
Don't just throw it away.
The Bible says they burned it with fire and they counted the price of their oven.
It was 50,000 pieces of silver.
And once they burned everything connected to the occult, the next verse says, so mightily grew the word of God.
If you want to grow to the next level, then you have to deal with the things in your family and in your life And in your kid's bedroom or in your trunk or in your car, you got to deal with those things that keep you soulishly connected to the occult and to new age.
So people just need to clean their houses.
That's the most practical thing they can do today.
I love it.
I love it so much.
Tell us now where they can watch it.
Give us all the information and tell you how they can follow you, Pastor Gray, because they need to hear you.
They need to hear your church services.
Tell them when they can do that live streaming, everything.
Give them everything.
Yep.
They can live stream on Facebook.
We've been canned on YouTube.
But if they want the church app or to go to the church website, we stream there.
It's GlobalVisionBC.com.
GlobalVisionBC.com.
They can also, after Sundays, they can go to LockMedia.org.
Everything is condensed just down to the message, just the messages there, I think, in a Vimeo format.
But the easiest thing to do if they want to find the movie, if they want to buy tickets, whether it's individuals or as many as 25 to 100 tickets, if they want to buy out a whole box, then they go to comeoutinjesusname.com and the link will come up.
Just put in your zip code and boom, it automatically let you know how many different locations are in your area.
They are adding locations and they are adding times at those locations as they sell out.
I'm going to have to go to my local theaters that are like 45 minutes away.
I've got one on each side and demand that they get this movie.
So I'm going to work on that.
But I appreciate you so much for coming.
Please tell your wife.
I'll say hello.
And we'd love her here at Jesus Guns and Babies.
I would like to have her.
Just she and I. I think she would be a powerful interview.
So we'll have to get that scheduled.
Amen.
We'll do it.
She would love to.
Is there anything else you want to say?
No, just thank you for having me.
And I'm just excited what God's going to do with this movie.
I am too.
Millions of people is going to be touched.
Thank you so much for coming.
Thank y'all for tuning in today.
I love you.
God bless you.
God bless America.
Y'all go watch.
Watch come out in Jesus name.
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